| 00:00.06 | scanlime | then you do some reindenting at the last minute... |
| 00:02.09 | purple_cow | scanlime: well, yeah, that's what the log is for :P |
| 00:02.20 | purple_cow | there's already a lot of code there that has the wrong name in the blame |
| 00:02.31 | purple_cow | or where 2 people contributed equally to that particular line |
| 00:04.37 | purple_cow | i really don't think it's possible to measure individual performance by looking at any single revision |
| 00:04.55 | purple_cow | at least, not if the team is working properly :P |
| 00:04.57 | scanlime | uhhuh |
| 00:05.52 | scanlime | well, that makes more sense on some projects than others |
| 00:06.20 | purple_cow | even then |
| 00:06.21 | scanlime | on my project we did pretty much divide things up by people... there was some overlap of course, but people felt like they 'owned' certain pieces of the project |
| 00:06.33 | scanlime | then I kinda came in with a wrecking ball in certain areas... |
| 00:06.40 | purple_cow | on something the size of a senior project, there's no reason every person shouldn't be familiar with everything |
| 00:06.52 | scanlime | these are CS students we're talking about ;) |
| 00:06.56 | purple_cow | and there will *always* be things that can be fixed as you're reading in-progress code |
| 00:07.08 | scanlime | oh god.. this log file is 253MB... |
| 00:07.50 | scanlime | it's a good thing my linux box has a lot of RAM |
| 00:08.01 | scanlime | since this is mostly just getting dumped into a GtkListStore ;) |
| 00:08.18 | purple_cow | ow |
| 00:08.41 | CIA-5 | smrt: 03jupiter * r187 10prototype/src/MenuItem.java: stubbed MenuItem class |
| 00:19.16 | scanlime | ok, I'm frustrated with this piece of crap |
| 00:29.55 | cheers | k y'all time to go home & raid Zul'Gurub :D |
| 00:33.14 | cheers | late |
| 00:57.04 | purple_cow | http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5041052316&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMESE%3AIT |
| 01:28.24 | scanlime | purple_cow: =D |
| 01:31.07 | purple_cow | pricey though :( |
| 01:32.57 | scanlime | hm. so this weekend the Blue Angels are going to be flying around San Francisco |
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| 01:52.44 | gonkulator | wheeee |
| 02:28.17 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10bzflag/src/bzflag/playing.cxx: please don't use gcc extensions in the code, other OSs don't have em |
| 02:30.16 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10bzflag/src/game/PlayerInfo.cxx: fix strlen for real :) |
| 02:30.45 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10bzflag/src/game/PlayerInfo.cxx: fix strlen for real :) |
| 03:21.30 | numist | scanlime: yeah.. I was bummed that Im going to miss that |
| 03:21.38 | numist | the whole carrier group is supposed to cruise through |
| 03:21.48 | numist | may as well see our tax dollars at work |
| 03:28.02 | numist | hail slimspace |
| 03:28.08 | slimspace | hail numist |
| 03:31.12 | slimspace | hmm...tomboy just quietly died... |
| 03:31.37 | numist | marvelous |
| 03:31.37 | file[laptop] | slimspace: instead of making a fit? |
| 03:31.46 | slimspace | file[laptop]: yeah |
| 03:31.52 | file[laptop] | :( |
| 03:32.03 | slimspace | it's ok, I resurrected him |
| 03:32.58 | kergoth | <rici> did you guys know that python doesn't do tail calls? |
| 03:32.58 | kergoth | <rici> I was unpleasantly surprised to find that out |
| 03:34.45 | scanlime | I'm not surprised |
| 03:35.28 | kergoth | that seems so strange though. its a great way to turn a recursion into an iteration |
| 03:36.09 | scanlime | I doubt there's much to gain aside from the savings in stack space.. you still have the high overhead of preparing a function call. Actually getting that stack space savings would mean making backtraces inconsistent |
| 03:37.21 | kergoth | i'd rather have that than blow the stack. |
| 03:38.10 | scanlime | it's a slippery slope when you start asking python to make optimizations that break the language's semantics |
| 03:38.29 | scanlime | tail recursion is great when you can implement it cleanly, but if not it's really not hard to just switch to iteration manually |
| 03:38.38 | kergoth | i suppose. the user can rework their algorithms in other ways |
| 03:38.39 | scanlime | especially in python, I'm really unconvinced of the benefit |
| 03:38.44 | kergoth | tail calls are just a quick and easy method |
| 03:38.55 | kergoth | (from the user perspective) |
| 03:39.25 | scanlime | quick and easy is good, you just can't expect recursion of any kind in python to be efficient :P |
| 03:41.20 | kergoth | nod, given python's function call overhead.. |
| 03:41.21 | kergoth | owie |
| 03:43.33 | kergoth | haha |
| 03:43.35 | kergoth | <rici> division is pretty friggin slow in python too but you don't see him saying "let's get rid of /, you're dividing too much" |
| 03:44.17 | Veight | kergoth: you have a cell phone but you dont use it.... |
| 03:44.19 | kergoth | (regarding guido's comments on function overhead wrt deep recursion) |
| 03:44.23 | kergoth | heh, its off atm |
| 03:44.24 | kergoth | sup? |
| 03:44.39 | Veight | mom has been wondering if you can give her a ride to the doc |
| 03:44.45 | Veight | and you think you could drive me to work in the mornin? |
| 03:45.05 | Veight | be here at about quarter after nine? |
| 03:45.13 | kergoth | eh? why cant rob do it? |
| 03:45.20 | Veight | dunno |
| 03:45.24 | Veight | hes gonna be gone or somethin |
| 03:45.40 | kergoth | dood, two days ago i woke up at 4pm |
| 03:45.46 | Veight | fun |
| 03:45.48 | kergoth | what do you think the odds are that i'll be up at 8? |
| 03:45.50 | kergoth | :P |
| 03:45.53 | Veight | lol |
| 03:45.55 | Veight | alarm! |
| 03:46.00 | kergoth | i found something out |
| 03:46.01 | Veight | you have one use it |
| 03:46.08 | kergoth | if you snooze for more than 2 hours in a row, it just gives up on you |
| 03:46.08 | Veight | you sleep threw it? |
| 03:46.14 | kergoth | i can almost hear it going "oh fuck it" |
| 03:46.17 | Veight | hah! |
| 03:46.44 | kergoth | hehe |
| 03:47.01 | kergoth | i get lots of good work done.. if the work interests me.. when i'm there.. |
| 03:47.02 | kergoth | ;) |
| 03:47.31 | Veight | lol |
| 03:47.58 | Veight | anyways my dad has to cut a tree down in the morning so thats why he cant gimme a ride |
| 03:54.01 | Veight | i want a neat idea since im bored :\ |
| 03:54.12 | numist | its not entirely novel, but I like it... |
| 03:54.34 | numist | I'm going to put a switch that controls a relay that completes the starter circuit on my car |
| 03:56.10 | numist | maybe make it a pushbutton switch so your foot has to hold it down to start, so its inconspicuous |
| 03:57.14 | numist | meh |
| 04:07.09 | scanlime | you could just take the car battery with you |
| 04:07.19 | scanlime | or the fuse box |
| 04:09.43 | numist | hehe |
| 04:16.39 | scanlime | http://www.vampent.com/vnes.htm |
| 04:16.40 | scanlime | cool |
| 04:17.10 | numist | loading.. |
| 04:17.36 | scanlime | it's an NES emulator for Symbian phones |
| 04:17.50 | numist | nice |
| 04:17.51 | scanlime | now I just need to backport Tetris Attack from the SNES to the NES >:) |
| 04:17.57 | numist | its not loading :/ |
| 04:18.03 | numist | but that is slick sounding |
| 04:23.24 | kergoth | scanlime: note: symbian gets reaaally unhappy with directories containing hundreds of fiels |
| 04:25.48 | kergoth | <xorian> They're doing web design and they have this whole mechanism with Apache hooked directly up to Vesta using wildcard DNS that allows them to visit any version of a site. They use this for review before something goes "live" externally. |
| 04:25.52 | kergoth | now -that- is cool |
| 04:26.08 | file[laptop] | and today's most helpful response by one of the other techs is... |
| 04:26.11 | file[laptop] | "sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't." |
| 04:27.41 | scanlime | kergoth: heh.. 600 games? |
| 04:28.08 | kergoth | yep |
| 04:29.16 | scanlime | purple_cow: http://paleface.net/z/monkey/zookeeper.swf |
| 04:30.57 | purple_cow | scanlime: frightening |
| 04:32.02 | numist | yay I got a Carriecall in tonight |
| 04:32.13 | numist | thatll be pricy |
| 04:37.52 | purple_cow | ohhh you can switch them vertically |
| 04:37.57 | purple_cow | that makes it so much easier |
| 04:38.26 | scanlime | yes, but it screws with my mind |
| 04:38.31 | scanlime | tetris attack reflexes are useless |
| 04:39.05 | purple_cow | hehe |
| 04:40.10 | purple_cow | yep |
| 04:45.08 | purple_cow | up to level 7 so far |
| 04:46.33 | purple_cow | and here i thought you were joking when you suggested this for my evening |
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| 04:52.41 | scanlime | haha |
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| 04:52.43 | scanlime | :) |
| 04:52.45 | scanlime | tempted to go for a long walk on the far north side of sunnyvale.. there appears to be a really big park there and some trails and such |
| 04:53.03 | scanlime | but it's kinda late, and laziness is taking over :P |
| 04:53.03 | numist | oh dear what the hell is happening |
| 04:53.04 | scanlime | oh, pah.. that park closes a half hour after sunset anyway |
| 04:53.05 | purple_cow | augh, keep forgetting about the vertical |
| 04:53.05 | scanlime | -10 points for sunnyvale |
| 04:55.31 | purple_cow | or playing zookeeper |
| 04:55.37 | scanlime | :) |
| 04:56.08 | scanlime | I need more peter sellers movies... |
| 04:56.42 | numist | I need to sleep |
| 04:58.07 | purple_cow | argh, level 7 foiled me again |
| 04:58.07 | scanlime | this movie makes no sense... |
| 04:58.14 | scanlime | why is the light bulb jumping? |
| 04:58.14 | purple_cow | which movie? |
| 04:58.22 | scanlime | return of the pink panther |
| 04:58.26 | purple_cow | heh |
| 04:59.18 | scanlime | I like it for some crazy reason, but it really does turn into an hour and a half of making fun of sellers' accent :) |
| 05:00.33 | scanlime | heh.. looks like this thing north of the park, that I couldn't identify by the satellite photo, is a landfill |
| 05:00.33 | scanlime | fun |
| 05:05.20 | purple_cow | time to hang up my newly framed fyre print :D |
| 05:06.41 | scanlime | ooh |
| 05:07.01 | purple_cow | it's purdy |
| 05:07.13 | scanlime | hah... this comedy club in Sunnyvale used to be a bar where the Pong prototype was installed |
| 05:10.21 | numist | nice |
| 05:16.22 | purple_cow | http://zero.navi.cx/gallery/davids/IMG_0072 |
| 05:17.26 | scanlime | oh, that's great |
| 05:17.28 | scanlime | I want one |
| 05:18.20 | nullpuppy | oooh, pretty |
| 05:18.40 | nullpuppy | where are you getting the prints made btw? (or are you doing them yourself?) |
| 05:18.55 | kergoth | ooooh |
| 05:18.57 | kergoth | i want one too |
| 05:19.17 | kergoth | yeah, where are you getting them made? :) |
| 05:19.35 | purple_cow | that print was done at the siggraph studio :P |
| 05:19.46 | purple_cow | but any kinkos can do that |
| 05:20.03 | nullpuppy | ah, ok, cool :) |
| 05:20.11 | nullpuppy | scanlime: yes, you should :) |
| 05:20.12 | purple_cow | scanlime: yes, we must |
| 05:20.28 | nullpuppy | i should play with fyre some more... i should really do a lot of stuff actually.. |
| 05:20.51 | scanlime | it's a great way to visciously chomp up CPU cycles |
| 05:20.52 | purple_cow | we also need to sell uvswitch2s.... ;-) |
| 05:20.55 | scanlime | :) |
| 05:20.57 | nullpuppy | yeah |
| 05:21.08 | purple_cow | (cough) |
| 05:21.23 | scanlime | actually, my TV has enough inputs I'm not sure if I'll need a uvswitch... |
| 05:21.37 | scanlime | we'll see. I haven't had much drive to play video games lately |
| 05:22.15 | scanlime | purple_cow: if you want my uvswitch prototype, you're welcome to it.. I don't really have a need for a composite video switch any more |
| 05:22.32 | scanlime | but you want s-video anyway, don't you.. |
| 05:23.06 | purple_cow | scanlime: none of the video game systems i own have svideo ;) |
| 05:23.12 | scanlime | oh |
| 05:23.25 | purple_cow | eventually, yes, i'd like a uvswitch that did svideo alongside composite |
| 05:23.44 | scanlime | well, if you want it lemme know and I'll bring it next time I'm down (or I could mail it.. though I'd need to find enough packing material) |
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| 05:24.08 | purple_cow | if you're not using it, i'd definitely be willing to take it :) |
| 05:24.16 | scanlime | ok |
| 05:24.47 | scanlime | it's a genuine prototype, white-wire and all ;) |
| 05:25.02 | scanlime | and a couple cut traces I think |
| 05:25.41 | purple_cow | yep |
| 05:26.11 | scanlime | I think that was the first real professional PCB I had done |
| 05:26.32 | scanlime | the mi6k was my previous project, and I etched those myself |
| 05:27.04 | kergoth | ~emulate stewie |
| 05:27.08 | jbot | Damn you, broccoli. |
| 05:27.12 | kergoth | hehe |
| 05:28.02 | nullpuppy | ~emulate peter |
| 05:28.03 | jbot | Chris, everything I say is a lie. Except that. And that. And that. And that. And that. An |
| 05:28.20 | gonkulator | ~emulate gir |
| 05:28.21 | jbot | aww, my bees... |
| 05:28.56 | kergoth | hehe |
| 05:29.01 | kergoth | i feel like watching zim now |
| 05:29.40 | nullpuppy | or family guy |
| 05:29.42 | nullpuppy | or futurama |
| 05:29.45 | nullpuppy | any of those will do |
| 05:29.48 | purple_cow | hmm, nothing to drink here but water |
| 05:43.05 | scanlime | mmm |
| 05:43.25 | scanlime | toast and cheap wine |
| 05:43.30 | nullpuppy | hehe |
| 05:43.58 | nullpuppy | I need to pick up some chocolate liquer, maybe some jager, and some other stuff that goes good with baileys |
| 05:44.04 | scanlime | hmm |
| 05:44.05 | scanlime | me too |
| 05:44.36 | nullpuppy | yeah |
| 05:44.59 | nullpuppy | yeah, i considered coffee, but didnt' feel like brewing any tonight |
| 05:45.22 | nullpuppy | oh, hey.. since i've mentioned in to a few other people already... |
| 05:45.27 | scanlime | yeah |
| 05:45.34 | purple_cow | cheap wine? :( |
| 05:45.35 | nullpuppy | some guy drove is truck into the gas station near work today |
| 05:45.50 | nullpuppy | and.. this happened to the same gas station earlier this year |
| 05:45.58 | nullpuppy | wall had only been fixed for .. maybe 2 months or so |
| 05:46.07 | purple_cow | i guess cheap wine can be good if it's unpretentious |
| 05:46.08 | scanlime | wow |
| 05:46.29 | scanlime | purple_cow: Barefoot Merlot.. not exactly the highest quality wine $10 can buy I'm sure, but I was nostalgic |
| 05:46.37 | purple_cow | nostalgic? |
| 05:46.44 | scanlime | yes |
| 05:47.05 | kergoth | look pal, i dont take coupons from giant chickens. not after last time. |
| 05:47.26 | nullpuppy | hehe |
| 05:47.29 | nullpuppy | yay family guy |
| 05:47.37 | purple_cow | scanlime: small tip for ya |
| 05:47.47 | purple_cow | if you're going to get cheap wine, get something from italy or france |
| 05:47.59 | kergoth | hmm.. i need to head to the liquor store to restock |
| 05:48.05 | scanlime | purple_cow: nod |
| 05:48.12 | kergoth | no scotch, no kahlua, no baileys, no sour mix, etc |
| 05:48.13 | scanlime | oop.. toasted that a little too long |
| 05:48.15 | purple_cow | american wines all try to be complex, and complex wines are only good above a certain price range |
| 05:48.27 | purple_cow | imported cheap wine is simple, and usually good |
| 05:48.47 | nullpuppy | kergoth: aww |
| 05:48.52 | scanlime | purple_cow: like I said, I wasn't looking for good wine, I was looking for a particular taste I was nostalgic for |
| 05:49.06 | nullpuppy | all we have is bailey's, scotch, an assortment of vodka and rum, some gin, and some tequila |
| 05:49.07 | scanlime | but I'll keep that in mind when I'm looking for a tasty wine :) |
| 05:49.13 | nullpuppy | and some port |
| 05:49.45 | scanlime | purple_cow: I don't very often, but I no longer dislike it :) |
| 05:50.27 | kergoth | lol, yay family guy |
| 05:50.31 | purple_cow | but the chambord is for http://david.navi.cx/blog/?p=37 |
| 05:50.40 | nullpuppy | haven't tried much, dunno what to look for, etc :/ |
| 05:50.49 | kergoth | nullpuppy: me too :\ |
| 05:50.53 | scanlime | yeah |
| 05:51.12 | purple_cow | until you've had a lot of them, the best way is to just ask someone |
| 05:51.48 | scanlime | actually, I rather liked the wine they had on my flight here from Portland |
| 05:51.52 | scanlime | wish I could remember what kind it was |
| 05:51.55 | scanlime | it was free! |
| 05:52.04 | scanlime | never been on a flight with complimentary alcohol before :) |
| 05:52.09 | kergoth | yay free |
| 05:52.25 | nullpuppy | hehe |
| 05:52.32 | nullpuppy | thats awesome |
| 05:52.36 | scanlime | I'm sure not going to pay $5 for liquor when I'd be just as happy with ginger ale |
| 05:52.49 | nullpuppy | I don't think I have either.. but then.. last time I flew, I was under 21 |
| 05:53.20 | scanlime | well, it's really not any worse than the prices for coffee at the airport |
| 05:53.29 | nullpuppy | yeah |
| 05:53.36 | purple_cow | argh |
| 05:53.43 | nullpuppy | that in-of itself is pretty high though isn't it? :) |
| 05:53.48 | scanlime | but I guess what puts me off mostly is that the people who tend to buy drinks on the plane scare me :P |
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| 05:53.54 | scanlime | yes |
| 05:53.54 | purple_cow | i open a beer, walk across the room, set it on the table, look away from a second, and it's all over the place |
| 05:53.59 | nullpuppy | scanlime: haha, yeah |
| 05:54.01 | scanlime | :( |
| 05:54.05 | nullpuppy | purple_cow: :( |
| 05:54.13 | nullpuppy | I hate it when that happens |
| 05:54.16 | nullpuppy | what kinda beer was it? |
| 05:54.23 | purple_cow | at least i don't have darth_mall here to make me spit it across the room |
| 05:54.28 | purple_cow | nullpuppy: black butte porter |
| 05:54.31 | scanlime | I think it was on the way back from my Philly connection after coming back from Rome.. the guy next to me bought $20 worth of whiskey |
| 05:54.31 | nullpuppy | ah |
| 05:54.37 | purple_cow | mmm |
| 05:54.46 | nullpuppy | hmm, ya know.. I think thats what i've been drinking the last couple days |
| 05:54.50 | nullpuppy | good stuff |
| 05:55.04 | scanlime | and on my SFO to LAX flight there was a big pile of individually-bottled vodka going to the rowdy PTO moms behind me |
| 05:55.16 | scanlime | hmm.. will have to try that |
| 05:55.53 | nullpuppy | I think I need to find a recipe that'll mimic the kostritzer I had on sunday |
| 05:56.13 | scanlime | mm.. toast |
| 05:56.13 | nullpuppy | that stuff was damn good, but expensive :( only place i've found so far whats like.. $54/case |
| 05:56.25 | scanlime | and I don't have wine all over my coffee table, thanks to an AOL coaster I found yesterday while unpacking! |
| 05:56.40 | nullpuppy | scanlime: hehe, I have a *huge* supply of those ;) |
| 05:57.19 | scanlime | I really should get a wine glass or two at some point.. I feel awfully silly drinking it out of a teacup |
| 05:57.31 | nullpuppy | scanlime: in the days of AOL 7.. a friend and I would grab handfulls of them when we saw them... :) |
| 05:57.38 | nullpuppy | lol |
| 05:57.40 | scanlime | :) |
| 05:58.16 | kergoth | Brian: Oh my god! They're eating asian reporter Trishia Takanowa! Peter: Oh that's just silly. They're just gonna be hungry again in an hour. |
| 05:58.18 | nullpuppy | dammit, I really wish I had money :( /me really, really wants to get a goban and stuff |
| 05:58.27 | nullpuppy | lol |
| 05:59.11 | kergoth | goban? |
| 05:59.16 | nullpuppy | yeah |
| 05:59.22 | nullpuppy | the board used to play Go |
| 05:59.28 | purple_cow | nullpuppy: care to see if yayhoo is working? :) |
| 05:59.31 | kergoth | ah |
| 05:59.33 | nullpuppy | its called a goban |
| 05:59.38 | nullpuppy | yayhoo? |
| 05:59.45 | purple_cow | games.yahoo.com |
| 05:59.54 | purple_cow | obviously nullpuppy doesn't listen to firesign :( |
| 06:00.00 | nullpuppy | ah, tis worth a try I suppose ;) |
| 06:00.07 | nullpuppy | nope :( whats firesign? |
| 06:00.16 | purple_cow | "all these ws and slashes telling us to go to yay-hoo..." "oh that's in ohio!" |
| 06:00.17 | scanlime | little dots and flashy things telling me to go to yay-hoo... |
| 06:00.20 | purple_cow | nullpuppy: radio comedy group |
| 06:00.21 | scanlime | that's in ohio? |
| 06:00.23 | scanlime | :P |
| 06:00.40 | nullpuppy | purple_cow: hmm, I should acquire their stuff I think :0 |
| 06:01.37 | purple_cow | i haven't listened to any of it in too long |
| 06:01.53 | purple_cow | i can't recite entire sketches anymore :( |
| 06:01.56 | scanlime | yeah :( |
| 06:01.58 | scanlime | it's so sad |
| 06:02.37 | nullpuppy | stupid 32bit yahoo |
| 06:02.50 | purple_cow | nullpuppy: raccoon retreat? |
| 06:03.35 | kergoth | hmm |
| 06:03.35 | nullpuppy | k |
| 06:03.41 | kergoth | i cant remember any of the new music i wanted to dig up |
| 06:03.45 | kergoth | got hte new disturbed |
| 06:03.47 | kergoth | what else.. |
| 06:03.48 | nullpuppy | flyleaf! |
| 06:03.54 | purple_cow | kergoth: sigur ros! |
| 06:03.55 | nullpuppy | go go go! |
| 06:03.58 | purple_cow | and flyleaf! |
| 06:04.22 | purple_cow | nullpuppy: 13x13 game to start? just to understand each others' levels? |
| 06:04.24 | kergoth | no flyleaf albums, just one track on a tm century primecuts cd |
| 06:04.29 | nullpuppy | sure |
| 06:04.30 | purple_cow | i haven't played in a couple years |
| 06:04.35 | nullpuppy | I should warn you.. I've never actually played :) |
| 06:04.40 | scanlime | 128x128 next! |
| 06:04.45 | nullpuppy | lol |
| 06:05.11 | purple_cow | nullpuppy: ohh, ok. will set a handicap then |
| 06:05.17 | nullpuppy | hehe, k |
| 06:05.27 | nullpuppy | I think I understand the basics, will find out soon enough :) |
| 06:05.34 | purple_cow | basics are easy |
| 06:05.41 | purple_cow | just a lot of things that take practice to see |
| 06:05.54 | nullpuppy | *nods* |
| 06:12.07 | kergoth | hmm, never heard these sigur ros folks before |
| 06:12.22 | purple_cow | they are nordic gods of funky singing |
| 06:12.39 | kergoth | spiffy |
| 06:12.40 | scanlime | hehe.. Afghanistanimation |
| 06:12.52 | kergoth | and this uberized album includes replaygain data already |
| 06:12.57 | kergoth | ~praise replaygain |
| 06:13.00 | jbot | All hail replaygain! |
| 06:13.06 | scanlime | replaygain? |
| 06:13.23 | purple_cow | kergoth: if you're at all a fan of experimental rock, sigur ros will tickle your fancy |
| 06:13.32 | kergoth | adds tags to the mp3s to adjust perceived loudness. doesnt normalize, so no data is lost. the mp3 player just needs a plugin to adjust the output based on it |
| 06:13.42 | kergoth | basically makes sure all your music has an equivalent perceived loudness level |
| 06:13.45 | kergoth | works well |
| 06:14.38 | kergoth | 2 tags are added, one which is a gain level for the track, one which is a gain level for the album, so you can do the adjustment based on album, and then all the tracks retain the original volume relationship to one another that the artist intended |
| 06:15.02 | kergoth | purple_cow: cool |
| 06:15.15 | purple_cow | kergoth: i need "takk" ;) |
| 06:15.34 | purple_cow | and maybe (), if you can find it |
| 06:15.52 | kergoth | purple_cow: downloading takk as we speak |
| 06:15.52 | purple_cow | ()'s a lot less popular than aegatis byrjun and takk |
| 06:15.55 | purple_cow | yay! |
| 06:16.27 | kergoth | grabbing () now too |
| 06:19.23 | kergoth | "Is heaven missing an angel? Cause you've got nice cans." |
| 06:19.54 | purple_cow | "My favorite things are commitment and changing myself" |
| 06:20.01 | kergoth | :D |
| 06:22.35 | kergoth | mm, sigur ros |
| 06:22.53 | purple_cow | according to QC, the singer is actually an otter |
| 06:22.59 | purple_cow | because humans can't make those sounds :) |
| 06:23.08 | kergoth | haha |
| 06:23.23 | kergoth | yay qc :) |
| 06:30.54 | kergoth | hehe |
| 06:31.00 | kergoth | this concept of wuv confuses and infuriates us! |
| 06:48.22 | nullpuppy | hehe, yeah, i know.. its futile :) |
| 06:48.49 | nullpuppy | i think i understand a bit more how things work now :) |
| 06:49.19 | purple_cow | i suggest you play 30-50 games on yahoo (9x9 is fine) before reading anything else |
| 06:49.26 | nullpuppy | k |
| 06:49.33 | purple_cow | just so you get an eye for danger |
| 06:49.38 | nullpuppy | yeah |
| 06:49.38 | purple_cow | then go read about eyes and safety |
| 06:51.49 | purple_cow | at this point you're just driving your score lower :P |
| 06:51.55 | nullpuppy | hehe, I know :) |
| 06:52.02 | purple_cow | every move you make that i reciprocate with a pass is an extra prisoner for me |
| 06:52.22 | nullpuppy | yeah, I figured that out a while ago :) |
| 06:52.31 | nullpuppy | i also realized i wasn't going to win :) |
| 06:57.00 | nullpuppy | whoo! my rating went up! |
| 06:57.15 | purple_cow | it did? |
| 06:57.27 | nullpuppy | wyeah, from 1200 to 1186 |
| 06:57.32 | purple_cow | that's down :P |
| 06:57.36 | nullpuppy | oh :) |
| 06:57.47 | purple_cow | it's the chess rating system (i forget the exact name) |
| 06:57.56 | nullpuppy | ah, ok |
| 06:58.04 | nullpuppy | *shrugs* that was fun ;) |
| 06:58.09 | nullpuppy | definately need some practice :) |
| 06:58.24 | purple_cow | join one of the beginner rooms and start playing 9x9s :) |
| 06:58.25 | nullpuppy | should go revisit the rules and stuff before I play again though I think |
| 06:58.35 | nullpuppy | hehe, I will, just not tonight |
| 06:58.54 | purple_cow | eh - you probably don't even need that. just pay attention to how many liberties a group has and play a lot |
| 06:59.38 | purple_cow | eventually you'll just start paying attention to it without noticing |
| 06:59.57 | nullpuppy | *nods* |
| 07:01.35 | nullpuppy | kergoth: find the new flyleaf yet? :) |
| 07:01.58 | kergoth | not yet |
| 07:02.11 | nullpuppy | damn :( |
| 07:06.10 | nullpuppy | ~emulate gir |
| 07:06.11 | jbot | dooom doooom doom |
| 07:06.24 | nullpuppy | ~emulate gir |
| 07:06.25 | jbot | must obey the taco man! |
| 07:06.32 | nullpuppy | thats better |
| 07:06.38 | scanlime | can't wait to get my new phone |
| 07:06.46 | scanlime | I hope expansys doesn't screw up the order any more... |
| 07:09.42 | lurgy | http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/USSR :) |
| 07:11.07 | purple_cow | hehe |
| 07:11.14 | purple_cow | Joseph "Stalin" HominaHomina |
| 07:12.15 | lurgy | hehe |
| 07:13.14 | lurgy | ooh |
| 07:13.16 | lurgy | http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Nigerian_Money_Scam |
| 07:15.32 | scanlime | hehe |
| 07:16.02 | purple_cow | http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Hungry_Hungry_Oprahs |
| 07:27.22 | purple_cow | hah |
| 07:27.24 | purple_cow | http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Accuracy_dispute |
| 07:30.51 | nullpuppy | rofl |
| 07:31.14 | lurgy | hehe |
| 07:31.18 | lurgy | wow |
| 07:31.19 | lurgy | blah |
| 07:31.22 | lurgy | it got all late |
| 07:31.23 | lurgy | boo on that |
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| 07:40.35 | *** topic/#tacobeam is EARMUFFINS |
| 07:41.44 | scanlime | "Dude, You're Totally Tripping On Riboflavin" |
| 07:41.54 | purple_cow | ``Water (AKA H20 or Janga Joose) is quite possibly the world's tastiest substance, even more so than oxygen and small pox.'' |
| 07:42.42 | nullpuppy | hehe, /me just read that |
| 07:46.03 | kergoth | # Vitamin MMORPG Highly addictive vitamin that puts user in a trance and sucks away both time and charisma points |
| 07:47.11 | nullpuppy | hahahah |
| 07:47.57 | nullpuppy | Vitamin L-SAT Causes user to randomly shout "Objection, Your Honour!" with extreme gusto |
| 07:49.28 | purple_cow | http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Kitten_Huffing |
| 07:49.34 | scanlime | :) |
| 07:49.49 | scanlime | that was one of the first uncyclopedia articles I read |
| 07:50.30 | nullpuppy | Vitamin L337 Consumer gets capacity to understand computers. Girls are allergic to this and will avoid the consumers of this vitamin |
| 07:50.33 | nullpuppy | hahahaha |
| 07:51.11 | scanlime | "Hey baby, I'm high on vitamin L337" |
| 07:52.41 | nullpuppy | If the desired effect is not achieved, be certain you're huffing the correct end of the kitten. |
| 07:57.02 | nullpuppy | http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Osaka |
| 07:57.07 | nullpuppy | anyone know what the 2nd line is? |
| 07:59.14 | scanlime | wow, google translator has a fun time with that... |
| 07:59.33 | scanlime | "For example, normally and when A Japanese encounters something he/she has trouble with, normally the response would be - That, it is not completed, but. However and Osakan response is more like - く そ! As for me there is no beriberi!" |
| 08:01.31 | purple_cow | ya know |
| 08:01.31 | nullpuppy | ah.. thats great... |
| 08:01.39 | purple_cow | i think linux is starting to finally be OK in terms of charsets |
| 08:02.34 | scanlime | it helped when people lost all interest in things not unicode |
| 08:02.48 | purple_cow | yeah |
| 08:06.05 | scanlime | yeah :) |
| 08:06.15 | scanlime | it needs to be the 4-digit hex entity for a heart character |
| 08:06.26 | kergoth | hehe |
| 08:08.31 | nullpuppy | Zen is also an extremely deadly cerebral disease which makes its victim unable to differentiate between brilliant insights into the nature of being and pure stupidity. The traditional means of diagnosing Zen is to administer a koan, such as the following: |
| 08:08.35 | nullpuppy | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:08.39 | nullpuppy | A person with a properly functioning mind will immediately realize how stupid this sounds. However, a person afflicted with Zen will fawn over the sheer brilliance of the koan and rant about how it transcends material thought and brings him of her closer to the Source. |
| 08:12.49 | scanlime | haha |
| 08:58.32 | scanlime | ooh |
| 09:00.39 | purple_cow | ooh? |
| 09:03.20 | scanlime | this is working |
| 09:03.23 | scanlime | and it looks sweet |
| 09:04.22 | scanlime | and it's slow |
| 09:04.57 | purple_cow | what is this? |
| 09:07.54 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03micah * r9047 10loopy/pbuffer-blur.py: |
| 09:07.55 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: Playing with a new blurring algorithm- Multiple repetitions of a separable box |
| 09:07.55 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: convolution. I've heard this is the same one photoshop uses. The demo looks |
| 09:07.55 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: quite good now, but it's a little pokey even on a fast video card. As it's |
| 09:07.55 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: configured now, this requires about 23 rendering passes. |
| 09:08.10 | scanlime | :) |
| 09:08.15 | scanlime | that could be speeded way way up with multitexturing |
| 09:08.20 | scanlime | but this isn't too bad for a first hack |
| 09:08.49 | scanlime | try running it on blank-slate for starters |
| 09:09.21 | scanlime | it's actually running a 256x256 shadow mask for the entire screen, so you'd get additional icons at the same blur level for free |
| 09:09.36 | purple_cow | ow |
| 09:09.44 | purple_cow | 23 passes? |
| 09:09.48 | scanlime | hehe |
| 09:10.04 | scanlime | 2 box filters, 2 axes, 5 integration steps |
| 09:10.08 | scanlime | a couple extra passes for compositing |
| 09:11.06 | scanlime | ok.. I should definitely get some sleep if I'm planning on spending much of tomorrow in the city |
| 09:12.00 | scanlime | lemme know how bad the damage is if you try it on your video card :) |
| 09:12.51 | scanlime | I should really replace the multiple box filters with a normal separable gaussian, then do the integration several steps at a time using multitexture |
| 09:12.56 | scanlime | that will speed it way up |
| 09:14.11 | scanlime | remember the old picogui modal dialog boxes that would blur the stuff behind them to de-emphasize that |
| 09:14.13 | scanlime | ? |
| 09:14.45 | scanlime | it'd be cool if a menu could not only desaturate the video behind it but also blur that a little- removing high-contrast stuff that would draw the eye away from the menu content |
| 09:15.43 | scanlime | you could do picture-in-picture and blurring that way :) |
| 09:16.11 | scanlime | or I guess I could implement blurring the same way I did it in picogui's OpenGL driver... |
| 09:17.01 | purple_cow | scanlime: that's frightening |
| 09:17.09 | purple_cow | but it plays find on top of mplayer :) |
| 09:17.13 | scanlime | nice |
| 09:17.19 | purple_cow | err, fine |
| 09:17.37 | purple_cow | err, a/v sync is getting a little off :) |
| 09:17.44 | scanlime | not surprising in the least :) |
| 09:18.00 | scanlime | I really have no excuse for using a multipass box filter instead of a gaussian other than that I was too lazy to drag out a math book |
| 09:18.27 | scanlime | but.. bedtime |
| 09:26.51 | purple_cow | crazy bastard |
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| 15:06.35 | CIA-5 | galago: 03chipx86 07glib-port * r2166 10libgalago/ (12 files in 2 dirs): |
| 15:06.35 | CIA-5 | galago: - Added object flags. |
| 15:06.35 | CIA-5 | galago: - Fixed the problem of a presence being destroyed, unsetting the account, which unsets the presence which destroys it which causes all manners of chaos. |
| 15:06.35 | CIA-5 | galago: - Moved most dispose/finalize handlers to GalagoObject destroy handlers. |
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| 16:08.36 | CIA-5 | debian-kernel: 03micah * r4354 10/people/micah/pending_CVE_requests: Updating draft CVE texts |
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| 16:28.43 | kergoth | nullpuppy: http://mastaile.mine.nu/DrinkingSongs.txt <-someone working on a drinking song singing wow addon :) |
| 17:04.08 | nullpuppy | kergoth: haha |
| 17:04.26 | nullpuppy | kergoth: any luck finding the new flyleaf? :) |
| 17:04.27 | kergoth | i love the undead one :) |
| 17:04.29 | kergoth | no :( |
| 17:04.33 | nullpuppy | :( |
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| 17:15.44 | lurgy | http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/MacGyver :) |
| 17:23.54 | nullpuppy | http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Family_Guy |
| 17:45.38 | ChipX86 | hello from the summit in Boston! |
| 17:47.36 | nullpuppy | yay! |
| 17:47.52 | kergoth | hey |
| 17:48.12 | ChipX86 | MIT's net access makes me sad |
| 17:48.20 | nullpuppy | aww |
| 17:48.23 | nullpuppy | why? |
| 17:48.27 | ChipX86 | it's one of those web registration things |
| 17:48.38 | nullpuppy | ah :( |
| 17:48.44 | ChipX86 | which is ifne |
| 17:48.47 | ChipX86 | er, fine |
| 17:49.00 | ChipX86 | but I've shut down since then and now it won't let me on because it sees my netmask but I'm not using the same address |
| 17:49.28 | nullpuppy | ow :( |
| 17:51.13 | ChipX86 | grumble |
| 17:51.17 | ChipX86 | will just code then |
| 17:52.14 | alm262 | ChipX86: whatcha doing at MIT? |
| 17:52.29 | ChipX86 | Boston GNOME Summit |
| 17:53.03 | ChipX86 | met J5, Luis Villa, the Nokia guys, Rob Taylor, Robot101, Federico, jdub, and many others |
| 17:54.17 | alm262 | awsome |
| 17:57.03 | ChipX86 | ah, it was just the browser cache :) |
| 17:59.08 | kergoth | ChipX86: http://mastaile.mine.nu/DrinkingSongs.txt |
| 18:01.34 | ChipX86 | cool :) |
| 18:01.37 | ChipX86 | man it's neat here |
| 18:08.24 | kergoth | ChipX86: did you see that our guild channel was invaded my nudists? |
| 18:08.33 | file | I'm guessing that's... Sigur Ros? |
| 18:08.53 | kergoth | sigur ros is a nordic avant rock band |
| 18:09.17 | file | my brit friend went and saw them in Vancouver last week |
| 18:09.24 | ChipX86 | kergoth: npoe |
| 18:09.30 | ChipX86 | in a talk right now |
| 18:09.31 | kergoth | ah cool |
| 18:09.41 | kergoth | ChipX86: apparently they thought #nakedandfamous was literal |
| 18:09.43 | file | ChipX86: are they... talking? |
| 18:10.24 | ChipX86 | kergoth: hah |
| 18:10.26 | ChipX86 | file: yes |
| 18:10.53 | file | oh god, one of the people who submitted two modules to Digium to be included in Asterisk (and since we forked it - OpenPBX) is threatening legal action on us |
| 18:12.03 | file | http://lists.digium.com/pipermail/asterisk-biz/2005-October/008914.html -> beautiful |
| 18:12.54 | ChipX86 | hahah |
| 18:14.22 | kergoth | ooh |
| 18:14.23 | kergoth | [12:53] <Kevo[MadFox]> suprnova is back... http://www.newnova.org/list_news.html |
| 18:14.23 | kergoth | [12:54] <seraphan6> holy shit. it's the same interface, same look, same everything. |
| 18:14.23 | kergoth | [12:56] <Kevo[MadFox]> sloncek isnt the main person running it... but he's supposidly doing the back end stuff |
| 18:14.23 | kergoth | [12:56] <Kevo[MadFox]> "Is this the resurrection of SuprNova - a new name but playing the same game? Although Sloncek is apparently not at the helm, he will still be playing a critical role in the upgrade and maintenance of the site and back end work. If people overcome the distrust that ensued during the eXeem debacle, then perhaps SuprNova, now in the form of NewNova, will once more rule the BitTorrent galaxy." |
| 18:14.40 | kergoth | woot |
| 18:14.52 | ChipX86 | neat |
| 18:14.56 | ChipX86 | I've grown to like mininova though |
| 18:15.01 | nullpuppy | w00000000000t! |
| 18:15.04 | nullpuppy | yeah, me too |
| 18:15.05 | kergoth | ChipX86: yeah, me too |
| 18:15.07 | kergoth | but still |
| 18:15.08 | nullpuppy | but... yay! |
| 18:15.11 | ChipX86 | yep, yay! |
| 18:15.14 | kergoth | :) |
| 18:18.28 | file | sadly it's raining here... |
| 18:19.08 | ChipX86 | Boston is so different from what I'm used to |
| 18:19.11 | ChipX86 | lots of tall brick buildings |
| 18:19.27 | file | ChipX86: is that a good thing? |
| 18:19.48 | ChipX86 | it's just neat and different |
| 18:24.48 | scanlime | prolly for siggraph next year |
| 18:24.58 | scanlime | but first... I take a vacation in San Francisco :P |
| 18:25.52 | ChipX86 | :) |
| 18:26.04 | ChipX86 | it's so weird seeing all these people who I've only talked to online |
| 18:27.06 | file | San Francisco is... fun to navigate |
| 18:28.26 | ChipX86 | so is Boston it seems |
| 18:28.49 | ChipX86 | we were at a bar last night |
| 18:29.09 | ChipX86 | Nat kissed Alex, just for the surprise factor |
| 18:29.16 | scanlime | hehe |
| 18:30.03 | ChipX86 | then he saw me, yelled, "Chippy!" and said something about being good to finally meet me and gave me a big hug and some Dom Perignon |
| 18:30.20 | ChipX86 | Nat's neat |
| 18:30.39 | kergoth | nice |
| 18:30.48 | kergoth | thats what it was like for me in ols :) |
| 18:30.50 | kergoth | lots of fun |
| 18:36.11 | CIA-5 | galago: 03chipx86 * r2167 10gnome-presence-applet/ (ChangeLog src/prefs-dialog.c): Display an error when we can't load a person in the prefs dialog, instead of populating the entry with garbage and then crashing. |
| 18:44.30 | scanlime | http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Adult_Bookstores |
| 19:13.18 | CIA-5 | smrt: 03evan * r188 10prototype/src/RotateActionBooleanInt.java: Don't really need that print statement there. |
| 20:00.05 | ChipX86 | Miguel just gave me a limited edition firey mono sticker and three "using Mono;" stickers |
| 20:00.25 | ChipX86 | "Oh, Christian! Pleased to meet you!" |
| 20:00.36 | ChipX86 | this is fun |
| 20:04.08 | nullpuppy | I think I'm too sober to figure this out.. *sigh* |
| 20:09.30 | kergoth | ChipX86: :) |
| 20:09.46 | kergoth | man, i love trac - https://opensvn.csie.org/traccgi/Ace/trac.cgi/timeline |
| 20:11.01 | kergoth | hehe |
| 20:11.04 | kergoth | i havent seen this movie in years |
| 20:11.05 | kergoth | see no evil, hear no evil, with richard prior |
| 20:11.50 | darth_mall | that's a good movie |
| 20:12.00 | kergoth | yeah :) |
| 20:12.13 | darth_mall | anyone ever seen an error like this? jsapi.o: relocation R_X86_64_PC32 against `memset@@GLIBC_2.2.5' can not be used when making a shared object; recompile with -fPIC |
| 20:12.44 | kergoth | trying to make a shared library, but didnt compile the objects to be position independent? |
| 20:13.03 | darth_mall | so it's a problem with my build of glibc |
| 20:13.41 | kergoth | no, it sounds like the compile of jsapi.o wasnt done properly to be making it shared |
| 20:13.51 | kergoth | afaik |
| 20:14.11 | darth_mall | hmm |
| 20:14.11 | darth_mall | ok |
| 20:16.04 | CIA-5 | galago: 03chipx86 * r2168 10libgalago-gtk/ (3 files in 2 dirs): Make GalagoGtkPresenceIcon and GalagoGtkPresenceLabel play much nicer with persons without any contained accounts. |
| 20:18.01 | ChipX86 | always good when one bug appears that lets you find other bugs, I guess |
| 20:18.12 | file[laptop] | maybe |
| 20:23.55 | kergoth | hehe, yay for the blind guy driving the car and the deaf guy directing him |
| 20:23.58 | kergoth | "Okay, you're in a warehouse, and we just hit a cow. I think you'd better back up." |
| 20:30.39 | darth_mall | ^^ |
| 20:30.52 | ChipX86 | hah. |
| 20:31.05 | ChipX86 | the iFolder guy giving a talk just showed their litlte notification bubble |
| 20:31.21 | ChipX86 | he said how great an idea it is and how he thinks everyone should adopt it as a standard |
| 20:31.32 | ChipX86 | somehow it completely slipped by that team that we have a spec in the works |
| 20:36.17 | ChipX86 | speaking of which, I have a meeting wiht J5 and some others tomorrow about the final stages of the notification stuff, putting it into 2.14, and converting other apps |
| 20:52.13 | ChipX86 | hey TD |
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| 21:12.06 | nullpuppy | yay for surround sound era! ;) |
| 21:12.12 | ChipX86 | :) |
| 21:12.49 | nullpuppy | ah, thats better |
| 21:12.59 | nullpuppy | still need a new computer chair though |
| 21:13.32 | ChipX86 | damn you galago |
| 21:13.45 | ChipX86 | also, it's weird seeing 14:11 as the time in irssi and 17:11 as the itme on my compute |
| 21:13.49 | ChipX86 | computer |
| 21:13.55 | ChipX86 | time |
| 21:13.58 | nullpuppy | hehe |
| 21:14.00 | nullpuppy | yeah |
| 21:14.10 | nullpuppy | ok. back to work |
| 21:15.43 | nullpuppy | stupid twinview ;( |
| 21:18.06 | nullpuppy | ooooh |
| 21:18.09 | nullpuppy | w00t! |
| 21:18.17 | ChipX86 | ? |
| 21:18.24 | nullpuppy | I *can* make vmware use both monitors :) |
| 21:18.37 | nullpuppy | I didn't see the res option for 2560x1024 last time I looked.. |
| 21:20.04 | ChipX86 | nice |
| 21:20.44 | nullpuppy | now if only drag'n'drop worked... ;) *cough* |
| 21:20.49 | ChipX86 | *grin* |
| 21:21.11 | ChipX86 | so, got two meetings tomorrow.. one with the nokia guys + IPCF guys + some other guys maybe, and one with J5 and maybe the iFolder guys and some others |
| 21:21.33 | nullpuppy | cool |
| 21:22.22 | ChipX86 | my first couple hours here involved people coming up to me and saying they want to discuss stuff, when's a good time |
| 21:22.30 | kergoth | nice |
| 21:22.39 | nullpuppy | cool |
| 21:22.43 | ChipX86 | good presentation |
| 21:22.47 | ChipX86 | I missed the very end though |
| 21:23.19 | ChipX86 | Federico doesn't look much like his hackergotchi |
| 21:23.24 | ChipX86 | very cool guy though |
| 21:24.33 | purple_cow | he's definitely been superheroing recently |
| 21:24.38 | ChipX86 | yep |
| 21:24.56 | ChipX86 | I've never talked to him before. I was a bit surprised that he knew me |
| 21:25.16 | ChipX86 | oh and IBM supplied lots of pizza |
| 21:26.05 | kergoth | yay pizza |
| 21:26.21 | ChipX86 | not sure I'd go in the future unless VMware continues to pay for it, but still.. |
| 21:26.49 | ChipX86 | ooohh |
| 21:26.53 | ChipX86 | the new beagle UI, kind of |
| 21:27.10 | ChipX86 | John Trowbridge is demoing new beagle goodness |
| 21:27.15 | ChipX86 | including a search bar in yelp, and one in nautilus |
| 21:40.24 | TD | the new beagle ui looks cool |
| 21:40.28 | TD | more spotlight like at any rate |
| 21:40.39 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 21:40.44 | ChipX86 | shame you're not in Boston |
| 21:40.50 | TD | i'd be happy with a freaking non-broken way to install mono and apps |
| 21:40.52 | purple_cow | hahahahahahaha |
| 21:40.54 | purple_cow | http://www.ballsies.com/ |
| 21:41.05 | TD | as usual, wanting to try a new mp3 player (banshee) has devolved into a multi-hour effort |
| 21:42.44 | ChipX86 | GAHHH |
| 21:42.54 | ChipX86 | my fix for this galago problem would introduce so many new problems |
| 21:42.58 | ChipX86 | no clue what I should be doing now |
| 21:43.00 | TD | what is the problem? |
| 21:43.30 | ChipX86 | well, because there's no way to uniquely ID a person based on info coming in, we have to generate an ID, a list of associated accounts, and store them in a little cache |
| 21:43.42 | ChipX86 | the problem is that when something quits, that data is lost from the cache. Now, I can easily fix that.. |
| 21:43.56 | ChipX86 | but then there could be issues like an account appearing under two people.. |
| 21:44.01 | ChipX86 | maybe not.. must think |
| 21:44.15 | ChipX86 | I wish I could just depend on some sane source for this |
| 21:47.37 | darth_mall | grrr |
| 21:50.32 | purple_cow | hahaha |
| 21:50.49 | purple_cow | apparently bill gates and howard stringer got into a shouting match about whose crappy DRM is better |
| 21:51.38 | purple_cow | probably a bit of an exaggeration on the article though |
| 22:14.53 | TD | ChipX86: if you see aaron bock yell at him please |
| 22:15.57 | file[laptop] | TD: yelling costs extra |
| 22:52.19 | *** join/#tacobeam JeffM2501 (n=jeffm@pool-71-109-221-173.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) |
| 23:03.04 | CIA-5 | smrt: 03jupiter * r189 10prototype/src/RingLayout.java: add the very beginnings of a LayoutManager for a ring menu |
| 23:07.35 | CIA-5 | smrt: 03jupiter * r190 10prototype/build.xml: add a "compile-lint" target for looking at compiler prissiness |
| 23:13.51 | purple_cow | http://www.slashfood.com/2005/10/07/food-porn-french-farmers-market/ |
| 23:13.55 | purple_cow | that makes me miss europe :( |
| 23:29.40 | purple_cow | when properly framed, i can easily see these going for several hundred :) |
| 23:31.19 | purple_cow | it really looks stunning |
| 23:40.32 | ChipX86 | grrrr |
| 23:40.34 | ChipX86 | Nokia wanted to buy me dinner |
| 23:40.45 | ChipX86 | but the plans are so screwed up. We have no idea where we're going |
| 23:40.53 | ChipX86 | and I doubt they do too |
| 23:42.17 | file[laptop] | sounds like my time at VON |
| 23:42.30 | file[laptop] | "Where are we going tonight?" "Who knows! Let's wander around for a bit and see!!!" |
| 23:42.55 | file[laptop] | ChipX86: are you having a good time though? |
| 23:42.57 | ChipX86 | we're giving up and going to find our own food |
| 23:42.58 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 23:43.03 | ChipX86 | aside from the complete screwups |
| 23:43.03 | file[laptop] | good |
| 23:43.11 | file[laptop] | those always happens |
| 23:43.14 | file[laptop] | they just add to the excitement |
| 23:43.19 | ChipX86 | you know.. if only Nokia employees had some kind of a device that allowed for various forms of communication with other people |
| 23:43.22 | ChipX86 | oh well |
| 23:43.38 | file[laptop] | I think it would be called a microphone |
| 23:43.46 | file[laptop] | and a speaker. |
| 23:43.52 | file[laptop] | put them together, maybe add radio... |
| 23:47.40 | ChipX86 | so they contacted us |
| 23:47.49 | ChipX86 | they did exactly what Jamie predicted |
| 23:48.08 | ChipX86 | they said we were meeting on Beech St. at a chinese place |
| 23:48.11 | ChipX86 | there's also a Beach straight |
| 23:48.26 | ChipX86 | if you make a line between the two, we're in the almost exact middle of them |
| 23:48.42 | file[laptop] | give Jamie my regards |
| 23:49.25 | ChipX86 | they went to Beech St., found out it was the wrong place, and had to go all the way back to the other one. They recommended that we don't bother trying to meet them, given the weather, and just meet up with them at Miguel and Nat's party tonight |
| 23:49.31 | ChipX86 | so, fun fun. |
| 23:49.36 | file[laptop] | quite |
| 23:50.00 | kergoth | heh, that sucks |
| 23:57.21 | TD | ChipX86: sounds interesting. wish i was there |
| 23:57.32 | TD | i could tell miggie to stop thinking about c# 3 and start thinking about installation issues :) |