| 00:06.14 | hardwire | taco |
| 00:10.20 | file[laptop] | scanlime: promptly start 160 new hardware dialogs? |
| 00:13.34 | ChipX86 | grah |
| 00:15.32 | scanlime | file[laptop]: been there done that |
| 00:15.53 | scanlime | looks like it just starts ignoring devices after it runs out of USB addresses |
| 00:16.31 | file[laptop] | well that's sad, a screenshot of 160 new hardware dialogs would be cute |
| 00:16.39 | file[laptop] | nice thing to print out and throw darts at |
| 00:17.22 | scanlime | I've got other funny screenshots |
| 00:17.30 | ChipX86 | purple_cow: got a question for you |
| 00:17.51 | ChipX86 | in your development of SexySpellEntry, did you ever come across an issue of the PangoLayout being rebuilt and you having to repopulate it? |
| 00:50.55 | ChipX86 | mmm home |
| 00:51.03 | ChipX86 | can I get a ride? |
| 00:51.11 | ChipX86 | need to get my place all ready for tomorrow |
| 00:51.44 | ChipX86 | GtkEntry, stop rebuilding the layout all the time. It makes me sad. |
| 01:01.00 | ChipX86 | damn you PangoLayout |
| 01:01.31 | ChipX86 | if the tabs actually supported center-align, I'd be happy |
| 01:01.34 | ChipX86 | but now I have to hack it |
| 01:27.25 | scanlime | ChipX86: oop, sorry.. too slow |
| 01:39.32 | *** join/#tacobeam laodamas (n=cehoward@c-67-166-53-18.hsd1.co.comcast.net) |
| 01:44.51 | purple_cow | ChipX86: no, but that doesn't mean it doesn't happen |
| 01:45.01 | darth_mall | there's something wrong with my desktop >< |
| 01:46.44 | purple_cow | there's something wrong with your FACE |
| 01:46.50 | darth_mall | well... yeah |
| 01:46.56 | purple_cow | hehe |
| 01:47.01 | darth_mall | but that doesn't explain why I can't get my screen to unblank |
| 01:47.15 | purple_cow | yay, no email from daniel since the frighteningly inappropriately timed one |
| 01:48.31 | darth_mall | inappropriately timed one? |
| 01:49.01 | purple_cow | he sent a response to the prototyping one almost exactly as i sent my mean remark |
| 01:49.38 | purple_cow | saying "i didn't get this message till after 4" |
| 01:50.05 | purple_cow | which left me feeling bad |
| 01:50.18 | purple_cow | but seeing as i still don't have any responses, i don't feel bad anymore |
| 01:50.47 | darth_mall | oh... did he only send it to you? |
| 01:50.54 | purple_cow | yeah |
| 01:51.06 | purple_cow | and it was a response to the prototyping one instead of the meeting one, which was kind of weird |
| 01:51.19 | darth_mall | heh |
| 01:51.39 | purple_cow | who here has a working windows install and wants to convert some subtitles for me? :) |
| 01:53.09 | scanlime | :P |
| 01:53.23 | scanlime | they're even legal, I think |
| 01:53.24 | scanlime | ! |
| 01:54.58 | *** join/#tacobeam JeffM2501 (n=jeffm@pdpc/supporter/sustaining/JeffM2501) |
| 01:59.01 | purple_cow | hah, i just got an email |
| 01:59.03 | purple_cow | he's offended :P |
| 02:00.05 | darth_mall | what do you want to do? |
| 02:00.24 | *** join/#tacobeam orchid (n=bzgirl@unaffiliated/orchid) |
| 02:00.36 | purple_cow | i'm sending an email explaining why he's putting us in a difficult spot, and going to suggest he type up his ideas and send them via email, since apparently meeting is too hard :P |
| 02:00.39 | purple_cow | not quite in those words... |
| 02:01.17 | hardwire | I love e-mail |
| 02:01.26 | darth_mall | maybe we ought to talk after the meeting tomorrow |
| 02:01.32 | darth_mall | hardwire: me three |
| 02:01.39 | hardwire | you calling me fat? |
| 02:01.47 | darth_mall | yeah |
| 02:01.51 | hardwire | poor! |
| 02:02.31 | purple_cow | darth_mall: i want his ideas *before* the meeting |
| 02:02.33 | hardwire | you calling me a peach? |
| 02:02.39 | purple_cow | because they might be fantastic, but require a complete redesign |
| 02:05.03 | darth_mall | purple_cow: no no, I didn't mean to hear his ideas. I meant to work out this problem we've had getting a hold of him |
| 02:05.23 | darth_mall | since e-mail has yet to yield the desired results, we might do better in person |
| 02:06.07 | purple_cow | yeah |
| 02:06.18 | purple_cow | hopefully this one i just sent sufficiently explains our side |
| 02:06.43 | darth_mall | one can hope |
| 02:07.24 | hardwire | am I still a peach? |
| 02:07.35 | darth_mall | absolutely |
| 02:07.40 | darth_mall | hmm... this curry came out ok |
| 02:11.56 | darth_mall | needs more spices... |
| 02:14.08 | scanlime | mm |
| 02:15.30 | darth_mall | blaaaaaaaaah |
| 02:15.37 | darth_mall | things with Daniel are starting to make me nervous |
| 02:16.09 | purple_cow | whyso? |
| 02:16.22 | scanlime | heh |
| 02:16.37 | purple_cow | i mean, i've been nervous about it from the beginning, but worst case we just leave him in the dust :P |
| 02:16.38 | scanlime | worst that happens is he bitches all semester and you give him a lousy peer review |
| 02:16.48 | darth_mall | purple_cow: I just don't want it to turn ugly |
| 02:17.30 | scanlime | "You're not eating." "I ate in the bathroom" |
| 02:17.54 | darth_mall | so sushi tomorrow night =D |
| 02:18.11 | scanlime | yes! |
| 02:18.30 | purple_cow | tora? |
| 02:18.53 | scanlime | =D |
| 02:18.54 | darth_mall | oh, and serenity |
| 02:22.11 | ChipX86 | awwwwww! |
| 02:22.42 | ChipX86 | I talked to Jenna.. "Christian, guess what? You know that penguin you gave me for my birthday? I'm taking it to show and tell tomorrow!" |
| 02:22.45 | purple_cow | ah, good, tora is open on fridays |
| 02:22.54 | purple_cow | it's mondays that they're closed |
| 02:24.14 | scanlime | that works |
| 02:25.25 | darth_mall | ChipX86: ^ |
| 02:25.28 | darth_mall | erm... ^^ |
| 02:25.33 | darth_mall | someday she'll take you to show and tell! |
| 02:25.39 | ChipX86 | heh |
| 02:25.43 | ChipX86 | she told my mom that she wants to talk about me :P |
| 02:25.48 | darth_mall | I know I would |
| 02:25.49 | ChipX86 | it's cute |
| 02:26.13 | darth_mall | I'd be all, "and this is my big brother Christian. He rocks hard. And he's super sexy. He has a harem!!" |
| 02:26.28 | ChipX86 | haha |
| 02:26.37 | rioter | younger sister or neice ChipX86? |
| 02:26.43 | ChipX86 | my 5 year old sister |
| 02:27.05 | rioter | ah cute |
| 02:29.21 | ChipX86 | wow, I didn't realize how much Sprint charges per 411 call |
| 02:29.27 | ChipX86 | $1.25 is a bit much, imho |
| 02:29.37 | rioter | 411? |
| 02:29.43 | ChipX86 | directory assistance |
| 02:29.52 | rioter | ah wow |
| 02:29.57 | rioter | its free here haha unless you get connected |
| 02:29.58 | rioter | then its 80c |
| 02:30.48 | ChipX86 | bah |
| 02:30.52 | ChipX86 | I would so pay extra to waive that fee |
| 02:31.01 | ChipX86 | guess it's a good thing I have internet on it |
| 02:32.56 | numist | ChipX86: I just use google over my cell phone since thats free :P |
| 02:33.09 | rioter | bastards |
| 02:33.17 | rioter | gprs is so expensive for me |
| 02:34.20 | rioter | $10 for 2mb of usage |
| 02:34.31 | rioter | or 2.2c a kb |
| 02:35.39 | file | CDMA 1X is expensive here |
| 02:36.16 | file | it's $40 CAD for 1MB |
| 02:36.18 | scanlime | unlimited GPRS for me too :P |
| 02:36.38 | file | or $60 for unlimited (not really unlimited - capped at 50MB, overage is $10/MB) |
| 02:36.42 | rioter | i used to have unlimited gprs, but just http, but a http proxy got me around that |
| 02:36.56 | rioter | but they fixed that hole ;( |
| 02:40.24 | darth_mall | what the heck is a wps file? |
| 02:40.46 | scanlime | wide postscript! |
| 02:44.04 | darth_mall | wtf |
| 02:44.18 | darth_mall | my computer keeps changing the cpu speed to 1ghz |
| 02:44.50 | scanlime | wow, there's a fuckload of sirens outside... |
| 02:45.05 | darth_mall | yay |
| 02:45.05 | darth_mall | go say hi |
| 02:45.19 | scanlime | sounds like 4 or 5 ambulances |
| 02:45.49 | darth_mall | ask if you can borrow one |
| 02:46.45 | scanlime | hard to tell where they are exactly, just that they're within a few blocks |
| 02:47.40 | scanlime | damn.. |
| 02:47.43 | scanlime | they just keep coming and coming |
| 02:47.49 | scanlime | lots of honking too |
| 02:47.54 | scanlime | sounds like they're stuck in traffic |
| 02:47.55 | scanlime | :P |
| 02:54.17 | purple_cow | for my food? |
| 02:54.23 | darth_mall | yes |
| 02:54.30 | purple_cow | ok |
| 02:54.43 | darth_mall | let me know when it gets there so I can stop waiting |
| 02:55.21 | purple_cow | yessir |
| 02:56.52 | purple_cow | well, i'm a little curious how someone can "tink" that people aren't trying to get in touch with them when they receive emails asking "when can you meet?", but in the interests of diplomacy, i think i'll drop the subject |
| 02:57.28 | darth_mall | purple_cow: that was my thinking too |
| 03:02.24 | darth_mall | hah! Daniel typed up his UI ideas in works |
| 03:02.36 | kergoth | yay, home |
| 03:02.54 | purple_cow | i didn't know anyone still *used* works |
| 03:02.57 | purple_cow | like...since 1997 |
| 03:03.08 | kergoth | wow, i remember works |
| 03:03.09 | kergoth | man did that suck |
| 03:03.21 | scanlime | works??? |
| 03:03.23 | darth_mall | yep |
| 03:03.32 | scanlime | tell him we only use MacWrite |
| 03:03.34 | darth_mall | apparently that's what a wps is |
| 03:04.01 | purple_cow | pff, UTF-16 is too small |
| 03:04.02 | purple_cow | big5! |
| 03:04.15 | scanlime | how big is big5? |
| 03:04.19 | purple_cow | 5 bytes |
| 03:04.23 | scanlime | really... |
| 03:04.30 | purple_cow | i do believe so |
| 03:04.35 | purple_cow | of course, it would be in chinese... |
| 03:05.10 | scanlime | hehe, yeah |
| 03:05.43 | darth_mall | jesus |
| 03:05.49 | scanlime | I just can't fathom why they'd need 5 bytes.. I would have figured 16-bit |
| 03:06.10 | scanlime | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big5 |
| 03:06.16 | darth_mall | I still get a warning trying to open the damn document |
| 03:08.04 | purple_cow | darth_mall: food's here |
| 03:08.43 | darth_mall | ok |
| 03:09.05 | purple_cow | ooh, liars!@ |
| 03:09.12 | purple_cow | the box says "our pizza contains 100% real cheese" |
| 03:09.26 | purple_cow | but i see a lot of bread and meat and artichokes that proves them wrong |
| 03:09.50 | rioter | haha |
| 03:10.24 | darth_mall | send them an angry letter |
| 03:10.57 | ChipX86 | demand more fake 100% real cheese |
| 03:14.00 | *** join/#tacobeam zak (n=zak@zero.navi.cx) |
| 03:14.08 | zak | scanlime: poke |
| 03:14.18 | darth_mall | zak: prod |
| 03:14.25 | zak | hiya darth_mall |
| 03:14.30 | scanlime | hiya |
| 03:14.30 | purple_cow | darth_mall: STAB! |
| 03:14.33 | darth_mall | says you! |
| 03:14.39 | purple_cow | yep |
| 03:14.47 | zak | bwah! |
| 03:15.00 | zak | no, no, no. this is getting hit on the head lessons! |
| 03:16.08 | darth_mall | purple_cow: did you learn how to cure the ear cauliflowers? |
| 03:16.44 | purple_cow | if you can cure those with arm bars |
| 03:17.09 | darth_mall | dunno |
| 03:18.21 | darth_mall | guh... why do Amer's classes have to be so full of tedious homework |
| 03:23.08 | ChipX86 | one more week until the summit |
| 03:23.14 | ChipX86 | and boy do we have a surprise for some people there |
| 03:23.34 | darth_mall | can I have a surprise |
| 03:23.47 | ChipX86 | no :( unless you go there |
| 03:25.32 | zak | oh good, you were home |
| 03:25.42 | slimspace | yeah |
| 03:25.46 | zak | why does today feel like friday |
| 03:25.49 | ChipX86 | uh oh, Sophie broke ptc |
| 03:25.58 | slimspace | zak: donno, but it does |
| 03:26.04 | zak | slimspace: did the people in the kitchen look like they liked the gfood |
| 03:26.11 | slimspace | zak: they did |
| 03:26.17 | zak | did they have bread? |
| 03:26.20 | slimspace | donno |
| 03:27.43 | darth_mall | pretty bad |
| 03:27.46 | darth_mall | ^^ |
| 03:27.50 | ChipX86 | really? :/ |
| 03:28.13 | ChipX86 | hmm |
| 03:28.16 | darth_mall | well, seems like everytime I hear about a conversation you have with her, it's not so hot |
| 03:28.26 | darth_mall | but I'm not necessarily in posession of all the facts |
| 03:28.27 | ChipX86 | true |
| 03:28.30 | darth_mall | plus, you know best ^^ |
| 03:28.40 | purple_cow | hrm |
| 03:28.45 | darth_mall | hrm? |
| 03:28.46 | ChipX86 | darth_mall: people in such a situation are usually not the one who knows best :) |
| 03:28.47 | purple_cow | zak: how many people are being fed on saturday? |
| 03:29.21 | ChipX86 | everywhere, or just at your place? |
| 03:29.42 | darth_mall | haha |
| 03:29.42 | purple_cow | probably just over here |
| 03:30.13 | zak | purple_cow: i don't know |
| 03:30.14 | darth_mall | ChipX86: that may be true, but you're also the only one here who knows Rachel and knows you and knows the details of your relationship, whatever that may be |
| 03:30.24 | zak | but i think we should do it at my house |
| 03:30.26 | zak | more room |
| 03:30.36 | zak | rich is ditching us |
| 03:30.39 | ChipX86 | darth_mall: we never quite ended up in the post-relationship friends stage |
| 03:30.47 | purple_cow | there's not really a whole lot more room :P |
| 03:30.52 | zak | ChipX86: i think that stage is a phase of the imagination |
| 03:30.54 | ChipX86 | but I do like to make sure every so often that she's doing okay |
| 03:30.54 | purple_cow | more room to sit, but not more work space |
| 03:30.57 | ChipX86 | zak: I do too |
| 03:31.14 | rioter | it is not |
| 03:31.19 | rioter | im pretty good friends with an ex of mine |
| 03:31.24 | darth_mall | it' snot necessarily |
| 03:31.30 | darth_mall | Kristin and I are still great friends |
| 03:31.32 | rioter | but we ended it because we realised we were probably better of as friends |
| 03:31.37 | zak | rioter: i am being bitter and single, shut up and leave me to my misery |
| 03:31.41 | darth_mall | rioter: heh... same ^^ |
| 03:31.51 | ChipX86 | zak: :( *hug* |
| 03:31.57 | rioter | zak i shall do so, as i was once like you |
| 03:32.05 | ChipX86 | same |
| 03:32.28 | darth_mall | misery loves hammers |
| 03:32.33 | ChipX86 | :) |
| 03:32.35 | zak | it has only been 2 weeks. complete recovery doesn't happen that quick |
| 03:32.42 | zak | s/hammers/squished hamsters |
| 03:32.48 | rioter | zak true |
| 03:32.57 | darth_mall | no no hammers with which to break the author's knees |
| 03:32.57 | purple_cow | http://www.stephencooks.com/2005/06/calamari_pizza_.html |
| 03:33.06 | rioter | well imho its proportinal to the length of relationship |
| 03:33.14 | rioter | i think its a bell curve |
| 03:33.16 | ChipX86 | not just that |
| 03:33.24 | ChipX86 | emotional involvement plays a big part in it |
| 03:33.33 | darth_mall | but that's nonsense ^^ |
| 03:33.38 | ChipX86 | hmm |
| 03:33.41 | ChipX86 | more than that for me |
| 03:33.48 | darth_mall | of course, I like nonsense |
| 03:33.51 | darth_mall | it keeps me entertained |
| 03:33.51 | purple_cow | i think it has a lot to do with the circumstances of why you split up :P |
| 03:34.03 | darth_mall | yeah |
| 03:34.05 | darth_mall | herpes makes it easier |
| 03:34.06 | rioter | eh, if its a long term relationship, and it ends on mutual terms (not her leaving you) its usually means you were unhappy for some time, and your just glad to be single again |
| 03:34.10 | ChipX86 | purple_cow: ahh, and that reminds me of why I shouldn't be talking to her |
| 03:34.12 | zak | i really don't like that idea? |
| 03:34.18 | darth_mall | what? herpes? |
| 03:34.19 | darth_mall | who does? |
| 03:34.20 | zak | 2 months for every month? |
| 03:34.26 | purple_cow | darth_mall: hahaha |
| 03:34.32 | zak | that's 5 years!!! |
| 03:34.44 | ChipX86 | zak: up to a maximum allotment |
| 03:34.59 | darth_mall | well, we all know that relations between people follow precise mathematical rules |
| 03:35.02 | ChipX86 | which probably doesn't help either |
| 03:35.11 | darth_mall | unless herpes is involved |
| 03:35.19 | kergoth | i greatly resented my ex when we broke up, it took 3 or 4 years until i got to the point where i no longer do |
| 03:35.19 | darth_mall | herpes is like the quantum physics of relationships |
| 03:35.20 | zak | i am sure he is thrilled to be single again |
| 03:36.18 | ChipX86 | it took well over a year to be over Rachael. I honestly wasn't even fully over her when I started seeing Jamie, but I'm definitely over her now |
| 03:36.33 | ChipX86 | and somehow I don't see Jamie hurting me in the same way that Rachael did |
| 03:37.30 | ChipX86 | this is a fun subject! |
| 03:37.42 | kergoth | you'd be surprised at people's capacity for self deception |
| 03:37.51 | kergoth | how easy it is for even a very nice person to hurt someone else badly |
| 03:37.52 | rioter | this is true |
| 03:37.54 | kergoth | heh |
| 03:38.02 | darth_mall | lying to myself is the easiest thing I've ever done =D |
| 03:38.07 | kergoth | hehe |
| 03:38.11 | ChipX86 | kergoth: yeah but I don't see her having relationships, online or otherwise, behind my back |
| 03:38.16 | darth_mall | it's like falling off a log... without the gravity |
| 03:38.19 | ChipX86 | and then lying about it |
| 03:39.35 | kergoth | :P |
| 03:39.43 | darth_mall | aww |
| 03:39.49 | darth_mall | but we love your bitter, cynical thoughts |
| 03:39.55 | darth_mall | you're like our own personal George Carlin |
| 03:40.01 | ChipX86 | :) |
| 03:40.01 | kergoth | :D |
| 03:40.02 | kergoth | lol |
| 03:40.20 | ChipX86 | heh, I just scared myself a bit. THought the screen was shaking |
| 03:40.25 | ChipX86 | turns out the monitor was shaking |
| 03:40.26 | darth_mall | it was just your head? |
| 03:40.28 | darth_mall | oh |
| 03:40.46 | kergoth | everyone needs their own personal george carlin |
| 03:40.56 | ChipX86 | I keep mine in a little box |
| 03:41.02 | kergoth | good place |
| 03:41.05 | darth_mall | ChipX86: why aren't you a rapper? |
| 03:41.13 | file[laptop] | Chip as a rapper... oh now that |
| 03:41.16 | file[laptop] | 's good |
| 03:41.33 | ChipX86 | :P |
| 03:41.54 | ChipX86 | I really should be cleaning up |
| 03:42.18 | darth_mall | you really should be rapping |
| 03:42.42 | zak | lurgy|work: http://bunnyherolabs.com/adopt/showpet.php?b=bWM9bGxhbWEuc3dmJmNscj0weGE4NjUyMiZjbj10aGUgbGxhbWEgb2YgZGFuJmFuPW5vdCBkYW4= |
| 03:43.06 | ChipX86 | that is way too amusing |
| 03:43.17 | scanlime | zak: that's an awfully small cage for a llama |
| 03:43.38 | zak | hehehe! |
| 03:44.01 | zak | scanlime: so...where is my camera charger? |
| 03:44.04 | kergoth | hehe |
| 03:44.04 | zak | ^_^ |
| 03:44.08 | kergoth | its an amusing picture |
| 03:44.12 | scanlime | zak: same place as purple_cow's chips |
| 03:44.12 | ChipX86 | someone needs to take this llama away from me |
| 03:44.15 | zak | click on him |
| 03:44.19 | zak | he jumps |
| 03:44.31 | darth_mall | bah |
| 03:44.39 | kergoth | gah, i have the llama song stuck in my head now |
| 03:44.46 | kergoth | llama llama cheesecake llama! |
| 03:44.52 | purple_cow | did you ever see a llama kiss a llama on the llama? |
| 03:44.56 | kergoth | hehe |
| 03:45.31 | purple_cow | darth_mall: hogwash! |
| 03:47.05 | ChipX86 | awww |
| 03:47.09 | ChipX86 | I like my pet |
| 03:47.25 | ChipX86 | http://bunnyherolabs.com/adopt/showpet.php?b=bWM9aGVkZ2Vob2cuc3dmJmNscj0weDY0OWRjYiZjbj1iZWVwJmFuPWNoaXBweQ== |
| 03:47.38 | kergoth | aww |
| 03:47.56 | kergoth | aww, it turns into a ball |
| 03:47.58 | ChipX86 | yep |
| 03:49.24 | purple_cow | darth_mall: i haven't read his stuff. what's it say? |
| 03:49.37 | darth_mall | it's not very interesting, I don't think |
| 03:49.44 | darth_mall | it's all about mapping things to faces on a cube |
| 03:50.07 | darth_mall | his idea for managing music is unique, but I'm not convinced it would be very easy to navigate |
| 03:53.58 | scanlime | cube? |
| 03:54.10 | file[laptop] | uh oh, scanlime is curious now |
| 03:54.46 | darth_mall | hehehe... were-rabbit |
| 03:58.17 | zak | scanlime: so my camera charger is in purple_cow's pantry? |
| 03:58.22 | zak | purple_cow: give it back! |
| 03:58.37 | purple_cow | there's more than one chips |
| 03:58.47 | zak | time to give in and get horrible bad for me food |
| 03:58.54 | purple_cow | yay horrible |
| 03:59.01 | scanlime | ooh, horrible |
| 03:59.03 | purple_cow | besides, i don't really have a pantry |
| 03:59.07 | purple_cow | i have a cabinet of holding |
| 04:00.04 | file[laptop] | purple_cow: cabinet of holding is equally as good |
| 04:01.20 | darth_mall | mmm... horrible |
| 04:09.18 | ChipX86 | bFalse = True |
| 04:09.34 | ChipX86 | hahah |
| 04:09.41 | ChipX86 | that select cast statement is golden |
| 04:10.31 | ChipX86 | kergoth: nice site. I should read this more |
| 04:10.37 | kergoth | ChipX86: yeah, its great :) |
| 04:10.53 | kergoth | one of the wow ui devs, an ace guy, told me about it |
| 04:10.54 | kergoth | good stuff |
| 04:11.11 | purple_cow | zak: heh. that sounds like a food along the lines of "mac & cheese straight from the box" |
| 04:11.24 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03micah * r9027 10loopy/pbuffer-blur.py: This is almost a separable box filter, but it has some bugs and it isn't using the right blending modes. Still, it looks kinda neat in real-time. |
| 04:13.25 | zak | numist: i looked. i can't find it |
| 04:13.37 | zak | i wants it though. my prrrrecious |
| 04:13.45 | numist | I had it once.. I couldnt finish it |
| 04:13.48 | numist | I thought it was awful |
| 04:13.50 | ChipX86 | kergoth: there's just that one page? |
| 04:13.55 | numist | on toast at least.. maybe as a dessert thing |
| 04:15.08 | zak | numist: would it not be int he peanut butter section? |
| 04:15.30 | numist | zak: it was |
| 04:15.54 | kergoth | "This guy waltzes into the interview wearing an open shirt with a gold chain. I don't mean rapper gold chain, I mean Leisure Suit Larry style. He was exposing all sorts of grotesque hair on his chest. And he had the pimp swagger down too." |
| 04:15.57 | kergoth | hehe |
| 04:20.17 | scanlime | "They're really the same thing if you think about it: firstname/lastname and longitude/lattitude, both just a simple Pair. Making two different structs would be as silly as hard coding your variable names ..." |
| 04:21.25 | ChipX86 | I love that one |
| 04:22.22 | ChipX86 | I like the comment from RayS on the comments for that one |
| 04:22.31 | ChipX86 | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:22.34 | ChipX86 | Other than that, an excellent and flexible design - by naming the values the generic "fieldX" names, you allow for an unprecedented level of code re-use. With a bit of XML encoding you can even store your choice of data in them since they are strings. |
| 04:23.04 | kergoth | hehe |
| 04:26.55 | nullpuppy | what are you reading? |
| 04:33.27 | kergoth | nullpuppy: http://www.thedailywtf.com/ |
| 04:33.48 | nullpuppy | oooh, new disturbed is out |
| 04:33.50 | nullpuppy | kergoth: ah, ok, cool |
| 04:38.53 | nullpuppy | I thought you cancelled your account |
| 04:39.26 | kergoth | ChipX86: you really need to do uldaman |
| 04:40.14 | ChipX86 | I know |
| 04:40.20 | ChipX86 | going to play WoW for a little bit |
| 04:40.25 | ChipX86 | but I have to clean this place up before tomorrow : |
| 04:40.28 | ChipX86 | :/ |
| 04:41.09 | kergoth | ahh right, jamie coming? |
| 04:41.25 | ChipX86 | mom's coming tomorrow, then I'm going to Chico, then Wednesday Jamie's coming back with me |
| 04:41.29 | darth_mall | nullpuppy: I did, then I got bored |
| 04:41.30 | ChipX86 | and then Friday we go to Boston |
| 04:41.35 | ChipX86 | so no real WoW time coming up |
| 04:41.42 | nullpuppy | darth_mall: haha, ok then :) |
| 04:41.47 | kergoth | ah |
| 04:44.32 | zak | the itll laboratory will be closing in 15 minutes |
| 04:44.48 | zak | please put your prjects away, log off your computers, and prepare to leave the building |
| 04:45.39 | scanlime | yay |
| 04:45.50 | purple_cow | hmm |
| 04:45.57 | purple_cow | "itll laboratory" is kind of like "atm machine" |
| 04:46.49 | scanlime | or "LCD display" |
| 04:47.01 | scanlime | ooga, SFO parking is astronomical |
| 04:47.30 | purple_cow | how ass-early is ass-early? |
| 04:47.49 | scanlime | dunno yet |
| 04:48.07 | purple_cow | tell me why you lied |
| 04:48.15 | purple_cow | and what it is you do to keep your eyes all shiny |
| 04:48.26 | scanlime | It will be a 1.5 mile walk to the sunnyvale caltrain station, then I think I transfer to BART or something at milbrae |
| 04:49.52 | scanlime | ah, free shuttle from milbrae |
| 04:50.51 | nullpuppy | erm.... wow... I bought this album yesterday and it was definitely worth it! just gonna download the torrent for a better mp3 Quality:D |
| 04:50.58 | zak | and sleepy too |
| 04:51.07 | nullpuppy | ^^ comment on Disturbed torrent.. |
| 04:51.19 | scanlime | hah |
| 04:51.26 | scanlime | g'night sleepu-zak |
| 04:51.27 | kergoth | haha |
| 04:51.32 | kergoth | new disturbed you say... |
| 04:51.33 | lurgy | hehe |
| 04:51.33 | kergoth | hmm |
| 04:51.35 | lurgy | sleepu |
| 04:51.39 | nullpuppy | kergoth: yeah :) |
| 04:51.42 | lurgy | :) |
| 04:51.45 | nullpuppy | released 9/20/2005 :) |
| 04:51.50 | darth_mall | purple_cow: they are indeed pretty |
| 04:52.03 | purple_cow | :) |
| 04:52.18 | zak | amusement |
| 04:52.19 | zak | http://www.astrodigital.org/space/stshorse.html |
| 04:52.35 | nullpuppy | can't seem to find a torrent with some decent seeds :( |
| 04:53.58 | purple_cow | zak: hehe |
| 04:54.12 | scanlime | :) |
| 04:54.30 | purple_cow | silly zak, calling us normal |
| 04:55.02 | kergoth | grabbing the new disturbed off of ubernet. only 50K, but.. |
| 04:55.20 | nullpuppy | *nods* thats better then I'm getting |
| 04:55.50 | nullpuppy | best torrent I've found so far is jumping between almost nothing and 50k |
| 04:56.17 | purple_cow | blah |
| 04:56.22 | purple_cow | i don't want to go to class tomorrow morning |
| 04:57.34 | nullpuppy | hahahaah, Disturbed - Ten Thousand Fists ReEncode 320 KBPS |
| 04:57.48 | nullpuppy | from the comments it sounds like the re-encoded lower bitrate mp3's.... |
| 04:58.32 | purple_cow | well, when you decode an mp3 you get a normal alaw file, right |
| 04:59.32 | nullpuppy | alaw? |
| 04:59.37 | purple_cow | pcm |
| 04:59.45 | nullpuppy | ah, ok |
| 05:00.10 | rioter | nullpuppy i wouldnt expect much from distrubed fans |
| 05:00.10 | rioter | they all seem to be redneck like |
| 05:00.19 | nullpuppy | haha |
| 05:00.36 | rioter | hows the trailer :P |
| 05:00.45 | nullpuppy | tis not a trailer ;) |
| 05:00.53 | nullpuppy | its a manufactored home ;) |
| 05:06.16 | purple_cow | kergoth: still no bitch and animal? |
| 05:09.01 | kergoth | purple_cow: fraid not |
| 05:14.10 | nullpuppy | yay! new disturbed! |
| 05:16.59 | scanlime | time to set my alarm for 4 AM or so |
| 05:17.09 | kergoth | ew |
| 05:26.17 | kergoth | mm, hard cider |
| 05:26.41 | nullpuppy | :) |
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| 05:47.55 | purple_cow | huh, my nose is bleeding |
| 05:47.59 | purple_cow | that hasn't happened in a while |
| 06:15.42 | numist | bleh |
| 07:25.40 | CIA-5 | osiris-misc: 03chipx86 * r296 10taco/ (5 files in 4 dirs): Add code for a useless but pretty feature: that little corner image that appears when you stick two wall ends together. |
| 07:30.22 | CIA-5 | osiris-misc: 03chipx86 * r297 10taco/ (ChangeLog src/taco/ui/canvas.py): Make sure that when resizing, we snap to the grid properly. I'm not entirely sure why this didn't just work before, but it does now. |
| 13:01.52 | purple_cow | stupid fridays |
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| 14:58.03 | kergoth`zzz | ~today |
| 14:58.05 | jbot | I don't know what today is, but it probably sucks. |
| 15:01.37 | numist | ugh, windows cant handle my usb array without choking |
| 15:02.15 | kergoth`zzz | mmm, the new disturbed is good |
| 15:02.21 | numist | is it now |
| 15:07.14 | purple_cow | yaaaaawn |
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| 15:08.50 | kergoth`zzz | bleh |
| 15:09.05 | file | kergoth`zzz: destroy mornings? |
| 15:09.11 | kergoth`zzz | yes |
| 15:09.21 | numist | ~mornings |
| 15:09.22 | jbot | Mornings MUST be destroyed! (see also http://www.destroymornings.com/) |
| 15:18.58 | Cae | morning kergoth |
| 15:24.28 | purple_cow | http://karagitz.blogspot.com/2005/09/chocolate-covered-bacon_28.html |
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| 16:03.04 | darth_mall | "design patterns are just patterns of design" |
| 16:03.07 | darth_mall | good job, Amer |
| 16:03.18 | kergoth | hehe |
| 16:03.41 | darth_mall | uhoh... e-mal! duhn duhn duuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuhn |
| 16:03.51 | numist | :o |
| 16:04.26 | darth_mall | everyone be afraid |
| 16:04.34 | darth_mall | good |
| 16:05.01 | kergoth | mmm, the vim :make and :cn and stuff is seriously badass |
| 16:05.30 | darth_mall | cn? |
| 16:05.48 | kergoth | jumlps to the next of the errors that were encountered |
| 16:05.54 | kergoth | and shows you the error for that line in the status bar |
| 16:05.59 | darth_mall | scanlime: quick! change your nick to scanlime[LAX] |
| 16:06.09 | purple_cow | haha |
| 16:06.19 | scanlime | yay for irc on the plane :p |
| 16:06.25 | darth_mall | =D |
| 16:06.51 | scanlime | that involves too much typing |
| 16:06.51 | purple_cow | next layover is in newark! |
| 16:07.07 | purple_cow | nonstops are for losers! |
| 16:07.09 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10bzflag/package/win32/nsis/BZFlag.nsi: no more of this RC stuff |
| 16:07.12 | Cae | back later on |
| 16:07.14 | scanlime | hehe |
| 16:07.58 | scanlime | the sfo to lax attracts some interesting characters |
| 16:09.00 | purple_cow | darth_mall, slimspace: can you guys figure out something to do wrt daniel's suggestions? |
| 16:09.26 | scanlime | bunch of middle aged women behind me drinking vodka and talking about PTA meetings |
| 16:09.35 | purple_cow | hah |
| 16:09.39 | darth_mall | purple_cow: I really don't like any of them, personally |
| 16:09.42 | purple_cow | arg, i can't connect to this tracker |
| 16:09.45 | slimspace | purple_cow: I don't either |
| 16:09.49 | purple_cow | kergoth: can you find sigur ros - takk for me? :) |
| 16:10.04 | darth_mall | purple_cow: my brother might have that |
| 16:10.10 | darth_mall | he likes Sigur Ros too |
| 16:10.43 | scanlime | and they're having trouble with the jetway now... |
| 16:10.53 | darth_mall | that's what planes are for: trouble |
| 16:11.11 | purple_cow | well, it's probably better if i stay quiet for a little while... |
| 16:11.41 | darth_mall | purple_cow: I'll send an e-mail after this class, k? |
| 16:11.50 | purple_cow | k |
| 16:21.22 | kergoth | darth_mall: found this cd on ubernet.. |
| 16:21.29 | kergoth | Spacemonkeyz vs Gorillaz - Laika Come Home |
| 16:21.34 | kergoth | kinda cool |
| 16:22.10 | purple_cow | http://www.slashfood.com/2005/09/20/sushi-by-dummies-wet-nap-included/ |
| 16:22.46 | darth_mall | it is not always a bad idea to make member variables public, dammit! |
| 16:23.42 | purple_cow | hehe |
| 16:23.53 | purple_cow | obviously you're not familiar with the concept of data hiding |
| 16:24.26 | darth_mall | that concept being, "because you can, you must"? |
| 16:24.42 | purple_cow | yes |
| 16:24.58 | kergoth | darth_mall: you'll love http://www.thedailywtf.com/ |
| 16:25.08 | kergoth | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:25.08 | kergoth | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:25.08 | kergoth | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:25.08 | kergoth | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:25.10 | kergoth | hehe |
| 16:25.40 | darth_mall | "<> 0"? |
| 16:25.48 | purple_cow | i'll admit that sometimes there are good reasons for using accessors, but a lot of professors & books preach that you should always use them |
| 16:25.51 | darth_mall | is that like "!= 0" |
| 16:25.51 | purple_cow | gotta love VB |
| 16:26.23 | darth_mall | purple_cow: I'm ok with accessors and data hiding |
| 16:26.27 | purple_cow | i especially love it when people use hungarian notation in VB |
| 16:26.31 | kergoth | hehe |
| 16:26.39 | darth_mall | but Amer just said that it's always a bad idea to make instance variables public |
| 16:26.41 | darth_mall | which is bull |
| 16:26.42 | kergoth | hungarian notation is the devil |
| 16:26.54 | purple_cow | hungarian notation had its use |
| 16:27.00 | purple_cow | but this is the freaking 21st century :P |
| 16:27.32 | darth_mall | it is? |
| 16:27.48 | kergoth | heh, if you dont know what your variables are without naming them by their type, you've got bigger problems |
| 16:28.51 | darth_mall | if (thisIsABooleanIndicatingIfThisObjectHasBeenInitialized) {... |
| 16:29.24 | purple_cow | kergoth: well, when C wouldn't even give you warnings about doing things like assigning '7' to a pointer, it was more useful |
| 16:29.36 | kergoth | gotcha |
| 16:29.40 | purple_cow | especially for maintenance programmers |
| 16:29.48 | darth_mall | ugh... I knew this would happen |
| 16:30.04 | darth_mall | Amer's been badmouthing inheritance, and now at least some of the kids in here think inerhitance is bad |
| 16:30.20 | purple_cow | but modern C compilers are pretty strongly typed, considering the spec is still weakly typed |
| 16:30.36 | purple_cow | darth_mall: hahahaha |
| 16:30.57 | darth_mall | he has this problem when he's discussing negative aspects of anything |
| 16:31.15 | darth_mall | whenever he's discussing a flaw of anything he always makes it sound like this thing is the worst thing ever |
| 16:31.48 | darth_mall | so now this one guy thinks that somehow design patterns are supposed to get you away from using inheritance, but despite that they still use inheritance |
| 16:33.58 | purple_cow | http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/0929052dea1.html#teletub |
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| 17:13.06 | kergoth | morning chip, cae |
| 17:14.01 | ChipX86 | morning |
| 17:14.06 | ChipX86 | or something like it |
| 17:14.17 | kergoth | heh |
| 17:14.24 | ChipX86 | :/ |
| 17:14.27 | ChipX86 | not good.. |
| 17:14.46 | kergoth | getting quite a bit of work done from here though |
| 17:19.38 | numist | Im at work, but shortly to head home.. Ive already been here too long |
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| 17:24.37 | Cae | who're you? |
| 17:25.10 | Citadel | citadel of MN2600 |
| 17:25.20 | darth_mall | blah |
| 17:25.30 | Citadel | indeed |
| 17:25.46 | Cae | eh. |
| 17:26.09 | pagefault | I am awaken |
| 17:26.23 | Citadel | hows friday everyone? |
| 17:26.35 | file | evil |
| 17:26.44 | file | one of my servers is unavailable, trying to get it back up |
| 17:26.45 | pagefault | looking for pants |
| 17:27.30 | numist | darth_mall: :( |
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| 17:30.52 | laodamas_work | purple_cow lurgy|work darth_mall: Do any of you Boulder folk have Serenity plans tonight? |
| 17:31.03 | pagefault | ooh |
| 17:31.06 | pagefault | interac money transfer |
| 17:31.10 | pagefault | it's like paypal but direct to bank |
| 17:32.47 | darth_mall | laodamas_work: yes |
| 17:33.40 | laodamas_work | darth_mall: Where and when? (Assuming you don't mind my presence) |
| 17:34.21 | darth_mall | I don't know, jen set it up |
| 17:34.40 | darth_mall | scanlime's coming back to town for the weekend and we're all going out tonight |
| 17:34.53 | laodamas_work | nifty |
| 17:34.58 | darth_mall | looks like the show's at 22:00, I'm guessing Flatirons but I'm not sure |
| 17:35.13 | darth_mall | we're also going out for dinner tonight, but I don't know when |
| 17:38.11 | laodamas_work | darth_mall: I assume you already have tickets |
| 17:39.59 | darth_mall | laodamas_work: yeah, Jen took care of all that |
| 17:41.08 | scanlime | no prize for alaska air |
| 17:41.20 | darth_mall | heh |
| 17:42.05 | scanlime | we had to exit via the rear stairs |
| 17:42.28 | darth_mall | sweet |
| 17:43.08 | darth_mall | lunch time! |
| 17:44.02 | scanlime | the terminal I arrived at was badly in need of renovation, and as far as possible from this one |
| 17:44.49 | scanlime | the starbucks here is less expensive than the burger king |
| 17:53.12 | numist | hiya scanlime |
| 17:53.16 | numist | hows Denver? |
| 17:54.45 | numist | fne |
| 18:02.41 | numist | ChipX86: ping |
| 18:03.04 | ChipX86 | pong |
| 18:04.19 | numist | ChipX86: I just realised something, and this makes me feel rather silly but -- if you can use an entire disk as a vm, does that mean I can take a disk from another system and then fire it up in workstation? |
| 18:04.52 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 18:04.54 | numist | because Ive run out of running computers and I need to boot another system of mine |
| 18:04.57 | numist | oh that is slick |
| 18:04.57 | ChipX86 | but again, you lose snapshots and other stuff |
| 18:05.06 | numist | well, it wasnt intended to be a vm in the first place :) |
| 18:05.15 | ChipX86 | and it *should* work but I don't promise a thing |
| 18:05.19 | numist | uh oh.. another hdd is making death noises |
| 18:06.17 | ChipX86 | :( |
| 18:06.46 | file[laptop] | poor numist :( |
| 18:06.47 | numist | Ive run out of drives, so the usb ide box is being cannibalized... I have to get my things off of it first and they are LVMed... gah why did I do that |
| 18:07.49 | numist | and as a note to all -- creating a 9.6GB vm and preallocating all the files takes a while... |
| 18:08.01 | numist | at least.. over usb1.1 it does... |
| 18:08.45 | ChipX86 | why are you preallocating? |
| 18:08.53 | numist | only 1400 MB left |
| 18:09.01 | ChipX86 | ? |
| 18:09.14 | numist | because I'll be using most/all of it... and because this drive is small enough that I might shoot myself in the foot putting other things on it |
| 18:09.15 | ChipX86 | you almost never want to preallocate |
| 18:09.38 | ChipX86 | there's just not any real benefit to it |
| 18:09.43 | numist | :/ |
| 18:10.02 | ChipX86 | it's not going to hurt, it'll just use more space than you really need |
| 18:10.10 | numist | aye |
| 18:11.00 | numist | why does it reccomend 256MB RAM for windows 98? |
| 18:11.14 | numist | seems a little excessive.. I never had a machine with more than 64MB of ram while I ran windows 98 |
| 18:11.28 | ChipX86 | *shrug* |
| 18:13.09 | numist | yay vmware bios |
| 18:13.15 | numist | wish my bios was that fully featured |
| 18:13.47 | numist | hrm... the win98 iso I have isnt bootable |
| 18:15.05 | numist | ChipX86: a vm is hung powering off -- it never booted past the bios. what is up? |
| 18:22.52 | purple_cow | yay naps |
| 18:26.36 | JeffM2501 | purple_cow, we need you |
| 18:26.40 | JeffM2501 | your our only hope |
| 18:28.13 | numist | whiskey tango foxtrot |
| 18:28.25 | ChipX86 | numist: with the physical disk? |
| 18:28.30 | numist | no, vm |
| 18:28.35 | numist | just made it, it doesnt even have an OS yet |
| 18:28.47 | numist | workstation is running on a fresh install on my machine |
| 18:28.51 | numist | theres no reason for this |
| 18:29.29 | numist | psh - virtual machine "windows 98" is busy, please wait until the operation is complete before closing." |
| 18:29.36 | ChipX86 | it shouldn't hang Workstation |
| 18:29.38 | numist | not that hard to reboot |
| 18:29.43 | numist | its not hanging the application |
| 18:29.59 | numist | hey, it started working |
| 18:30.17 | numist | I didnt even have to wave a dead chicken in front of it |
| 18:32.28 | ChipX86 | WS for Windows? |
| 18:32.52 | numist | nod |
| 18:33.09 | numist | so I guess it doesnt hang the vm per se, but it takes a lot longer than pressing the reset button and running some debug code should... |
| 18:44.40 | file | pagefault: poke |
| 18:44.55 | pagefault | yo |
| 18:45.14 | file | pagefault: I think I'm going to move you to quark |
| 18:46.45 | purple_cow | JeffM2501: oh? |
| 18:47.00 | JeffM2501 | nm, we hacked the db :) |
| 18:51.07 | pagefault | whats a quark |
| 18:51.13 | ChipX86 | what isn't? |
| 18:51.25 | kergoth | a ferengi |
| 18:52.22 | hardwire | a quark is a ferengi |
| 18:52.28 | hardwire | atleast one ferengi |
| 18:52.30 | pagefault | quark griffin |
| 18:53.29 | numist | damnit I dont ahve a key for this |
| 18:57.48 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10bzflag/ (ChangeLog README TODO src/date/buildDate.cxx): change to 2.0.4 stable version numbers |
| 19:00.00 | darth_mall | who missed me? |
| 19:00.06 | ChipX86 | me |
| 19:00.24 | darth_mall | ChipX86: =D |
| 19:02.41 | darth_mall | purple_cow: so I sent that e-mail about when and where we're eating dinner tonight, and Jen e-mailed me back to ask if Tora serves sushi ^^ |
| 19:03.16 | pagefault | file, am I an abusive user |
| 19:03.24 | pagefault | is that why I am being moved |
| 19:03.31 | purple_cow | heh |
| 19:03.37 | kergoth | <mustachio> i was in a 200 level course, 2nd or 3rd year depending on how remedial you were. kid asked about a binary value what would happen if it was something other than 0 or 1 |
| 19:03.38 | kergoth | <rici> he obviously has a good grasp on modern management logic systems. |
| 19:03.38 | kergoth | <rici> "special offer: all bits produced today will be 1.2" |
| 19:03.44 | purple_cow | i'm worried about going any later than about 5:30 |
| 19:03.47 | purple_cow | to anywhere |
| 19:03.57 | purple_cow | 'cuz it's friday and we'll probably have a sizable party |
| 19:04.09 | darth_mall | hmm |
| 19:04.11 | darth_mall | good point |
| 19:04.13 | darth_mall | hadn't thought of that |
| 19:04.42 | darth_mall | purple_cow: mind if I come home with you after the meeting this afternoon? ^^ |
| 19:04.59 | purple_cow | not at all |
| 19:05.15 | darth_mall | k |
| 19:05.29 | darth_mall | I was gonna do the same ^^ |
| 19:07.06 | scanlime | woo. when they saw my crappy alaska air boarding pass, they printed of a new one and upgraded my seat |
| 19:07.15 | ChipX86 | hah |
| 19:07.18 | ChipX86 | nice |
| 19:07.59 | scanlime | this seat gas more leg room than any other on the plane |
| 19:08.23 | purple_cow | mmm, seat gas |
| 19:09.15 | purple_cow | 'cuz you're a sucker |
| 19:09.42 | darth_mall | yeah |
| 19:09.46 | darth_mall | and my face is broken ;) |
| 19:09.57 | scanlime | heh... gas equals has when you only get 12 buttons. i keep messing up me and of too. |
| 19:11.35 | scanlime | if nobody else shows up no this row i'm gonna steal the window seat |
| 19:11.40 | purple_cow | hmm, i dunno if tora would even have room |
| 19:11.45 | purple_cow | they're really small |
| 19:12.21 | scanlime | ah. so hapa? |
| 19:13.08 | purple_cow | well, let's try tora first |
| 19:13.15 | purple_cow | since they're significantly better |
| 19:13.31 | scanlime | check. |
| 19:14.24 | scanlime | it's so weird irc'ing on a plane... |
| 19:14.34 | ChipX86 | I thought they didn't allow that kind of thing |
| 19:14.44 | numist | damnit msdn didnt give me a serial number for win98se when I downloaded it from them |
| 19:14.47 | numist | so now I have no cd key |
| 19:15.13 | scanlime | it's on the ground |
| 19:15.17 | ChipX86 | oh |
| 19:16.07 | numist | in other words: "They dont know" |
| 19:17.32 | ChipX86 | such an evil yet lovely hack |
| 19:17.53 | purple_cow | hah, cool |
| 19:17.54 | purple_cow | http://www.boobiethon.com/ |
| 19:18.00 | *** join/#tacobeam alm262 (n=andrew@pool-71-96-153-90.dfw.dsl-w.verizon.net) |
| 19:18.00 | ChipX86 | nsfw I assume |
| 19:18.07 | purple_cow | actually the front page is sfw |
| 19:18.41 | numist | damn.. if my car hadnt been robbed last month this wouldnt be a problem either.. I had a win98 disk |
| 19:18.59 | ChipX86 | "P2P Users More Likely to Cheat, Shoplift" according to an unbiased study funded by the RIAA |
| 19:19.11 | numist | nice |
| 19:31.54 | darth_mall | I know I shoplift constantly |
| 19:32.13 | darth_mall | in fact, I'm doing it right now! |
| 19:33.19 | purple_cow | time to go to class |
| 19:42.51 | laodamas_work | darth_mall: Am I on the email distro list for tonight's shindig? |
| 19:45.54 | Cae | class again |
| 19:56.49 | darth_mall | laodamas_work: I dunno |
| 19:56.57 | darth_mall | if you haven't been getting e-mails about it, then probably not ;) |
| 19:59.11 | laodamas_work | darth_mall: fix it fix it fix it fix it fix it fix it fix it fix it fix it fix it fix it |
| 20:06.27 | darth_mall | well, next time an e-mail goes out... |
| 20:09.05 | darth_mall | laodamas_work: I think we'll be lucky to have half the people know what's going on anyway |
| 20:09.11 | darth_mall | these things always end up being so disorganized... |
| 20:13.02 | darth_mall | laodamas_work: I see you in the To field on the last e-mail |
| 20:16.39 | laodamas_work | darth_mall: which address? |
| 20:17.14 | darth_mall | cehoward@kersplody.com |
| 20:18.26 | laodamas_work | darth_mall: Never mind. My email host's webmail system was acting up again. Grrr. I have the message now :) |
| 20:22.24 | darth_mall | ^^ |
| 20:39.34 | file | hardwire: poke |
| 20:43.12 | hardwire | file: prod |
| 20:43.19 | hardwire | wanna fill the channel with voip crap? |
| 20:43.24 | file | not really |
| 20:43.44 | hardwire | more of a poke at scanlime |
| 20:43.48 | hardwire | anyhoot.. whas happenin foo? |
| 20:43.59 | file | working on G726 ;) |
| 20:45.16 | file | I think the default one in Asterisk is slightly flawed |
| 20:45.38 | hardwire | hmm |
| 20:45.43 | hardwire | isn't it bridge only in asterisk? |
| 20:45.57 | file | no it'll transcode, the 32k one |
| 20:46.05 | hardwire | I want like |
| 20:46.07 | hardwire | the 16k |
| 20:46.12 | hardwire | and the other derivs |
| 20:46.39 | file | yeah mine does that |
| 20:46.48 | hardwire | nice |
| 20:46.51 | hardwire | codecs.cnof? |
| 20:46.53 | hardwire | conf |
| 20:47.01 | hardwire | I wish there were a peer based way of using codecs.conf |
| 20:47.09 | hardwire | like codec aliases |
| 20:47.36 | hardwire | allow=speex-dtx-vbr-happy |
| 20:47.57 | file | the codec itself has support for all of them, I'm just thinking of the best way to tie it into Asterisk |
| 20:48.03 | file | er OpenPBX ;) |
| 20:48.07 | hardwire | it has support |
| 20:48.08 | hardwire | but |
| 20:48.12 | hardwire | how do you select which one? |
| 20:48.26 | file | that's what I'm working on, because technically they're different codecs to asterisk |
| 20:48.35 | hardwire | yeh |
| 20:48.40 | hardwire | so you should use g726-16 |
| 20:48.41 | hardwire | as a name |
| 20:48.44 | hardwire | and so on/so forth |
| 20:48.55 | hardwire | since that seems to be the most common way to reference it |
| 20:49.10 | file | internally asterisk stores those bitshifted... and if I put in 16, 24, and 40... well, it leaves one or two spots left for other codecs |
| 20:50.02 | hardwire | I know |
| 20:50.07 | hardwire | I dunno why they did that |
| 20:50.18 | hardwire | makes using other ones harder :) |
| 20:50.25 | hardwire | you would have to set g26 at a higher bit |
| 20:50.43 | hardwire | grr |
| 20:50.45 | hardwire | anypoo |
| 20:51.04 | file | I had the idea of using a structure for storing audio information |
| 20:51.08 | hardwire | g726 negotiates it inbetween itself |
| 20:51.10 | hardwire | I would assume |
| 20:51.13 | hardwire | "what am i?" |
| 20:51.16 | file | no |
| 20:51.21 | hardwire | no kidding? |
| 20:51.36 | file | you negotiate which one outside of the conversion, ie in the SDP with SIP |
| 20:51.43 | file | you don't know otherwise - no way to tell |
| 20:51.45 | hardwire | it makes sense |
| 20:51.48 | hardwire | but still |
| 20:51.49 | file | because the encoded frame size is the same on all |
| 20:51.53 | hardwire | yeh |
| 20:52.03 | file | but I swear I can't tell the audio difference between them |
| 20:52.14 | hardwire | do you mock speex? |
| 20:52.21 | file | haha |
| 20:52.30 | hardwire | well.. a 16k codec. thats a lot of room for 8000hz |
| 20:52.32 | hardwire | it should sound fine |
| 20:52.33 | file | I *did* have an idea for storing audio stuff as structures |
| 20:52.47 | file | and when you declare them for a peer or whatever, just use a linked list |
| 20:52.55 | hardwire | hmm |
| 20:53.09 | hardwire | I for some reason assumed that the bit shifted codec list even applied to sip devices themselves |
| 20:53.21 | file | it's just the way internally asterisk stores it... rather evil |
| 20:53.27 | hardwire | ok |
| 20:53.30 | hardwire | it needs to be more modular |
| 20:53.33 | file | it was one of those, "We know we're going to outgrow this eventually... but for now - do it" |
| 20:53.38 | hardwire | eww |
| 20:53.44 | hardwire | non-pro-active poopie |
| 20:55.42 | file | ugh Solaris |
| 20:56.01 | hardwire | what the fuck is NBS? |
| 20:56.16 | hardwire | well I wish asterisk supported CNG for the VAD |
| 20:56.19 | hardwire | that would be nice |
| 20:56.24 | hardwire | my phones can do VAD on ULAW |
| 20:56.32 | hardwire | foods here.. bbl |
| 20:56.46 | file | uh oh food |
| 20:59.29 | hardwire | did I tell you about the incredible shrinking me? |
| 21:01.47 | darth_mall | uhoh... there's a movie on tv with what looks like ninjas and Chuck Norris |
| 21:10.05 | darth_mall | I bet hardwire likes Chuck Norris |
| 21:10.12 | purple_cow | who doesn't like chuck norris? |
| 21:10.38 | darth_mall | yay Chuck Norris |
| 21:10.50 | darth_mall | he's all wuPOW! |
| 21:12.26 | darth_mall | look at that moustache |
| 21:13.07 | ChipX86 | ok, We Love Katamari should be sent to me soon |
| 21:13.19 | darth_mall | purple_cow: throwing paper at passers by |
| 21:13.37 | darth_mall | uhoh... Chuck Norris is gonna git some |
| 21:13.51 | darth_mall | oh wait... she was sleeping fully clothed for some reason |
| 21:13.53 | ChipX86 | purple_cow: play with taco and see the cool but useless feature I added? |
| 21:14.04 | hardwire | darth_mall: I fucking despise chuck norris |
| 21:14.08 | hardwire | that fuzzy bastard is a hack |
| 21:14.09 | darth_mall | hardwire: you love him |
| 21:14.17 | darth_mall | everyone loves Chuck Norris |
| 21:14.21 | darth_mall | he's all wuPOW |
| 21:14.40 | darth_mall | and how can you not love someone who's all wuPOW |
| 21:14.54 | purple_cow | well, crescent kicks *do* make the world go round |
| 21:16.17 | darth_mall | indeed |
| 21:16.52 | darth_mall | it's a good thing he's dressing all ninja like in the middle of the day |
| 21:17.00 | darth_mall | all that black will definitely keep him hidden and cool |
| 21:17.37 | purple_cow | hahaha |
| 21:17.46 | purple_cow | they're giving a talk on reframing your college education as job experience |
| 21:17.55 | purple_cow | because the two are one and the same! |
| 21:19.03 | darth_mall | wow... some of the best bo work I've ever seen |
| 21:19.32 | hardwire | woPOW? |
| 21:19.36 | darth_mall | wuPOW |
| 21:19.38 | hardwire | ah |
| 21:19.43 | hardwire | my g/f studies Wu Tan Kung Fu |
| 21:19.48 | hardwire | wuTAN! |
| 21:20.13 | purple_cow | darth_mall: by whom? charlie? |
| 21:20.15 | hardwire | she hates it when I call her forms "Tippy Toe Dances" |
| 21:20.25 | darth_mall | purple_cow: naw, some girl in this movie |
| 21:20.28 | hardwire | darth_mall: what is it with Chuck Norris? |
| 21:20.30 | purple_cow | ah |
| 21:20.32 | darth_mall | dunno |
| 21:20.37 | darth_mall | it's got him and lots of ninjas |
| 21:20.39 | hardwire | I hate him |
| 21:20.40 | hardwire | he bugs me |
| 21:20.45 | darth_mall | he's awesome |
| 21:20.48 | hardwire | he bugs me |
| 21:20.52 | darth_mall | right up there with Steven Segal |
| 21:20.59 | hardwire | I hate Segal |
| 21:21.08 | hardwire | what are you referencing w/ Norris btw? |
| 21:21.12 | darth_mall | dunno |
| 21:21.17 | hardwire | is it a movie? |
| 21:21.19 | darth_mall | yeah |
| 21:21.21 | hardwire | what is it |
| 21:21.23 | darth_mall | s'on AMC right now |
| 21:21.29 | hardwire | tv.yahoo.com |
| 21:21.32 | darth_mall | hardwire: what part of "dunno" did you miss |
| 21:21.35 | darth_mall | ;) |
| 21:21.44 | hardwire | darth_mall: I figured you were just being dumb foe the sake of argument |
| 21:21.45 | darth_mall | hmm... I should probably head out for this meeting |
| 21:22.00 | darth_mall | hardwire: naw, I'm dumb because it comes naturally to me |
| 21:22.04 | hardwire | heh |
| 21:22.05 | hardwire | same here |
| 21:22.10 | hardwire | we will never achieve greatness |
| 21:22.13 | hardwire | we have too much dumb |
| 21:22.39 | hardwire | do you know the leading causes of dumb bumps? |
| 21:22.42 | hardwire | ouch buttons. |
| 21:22.46 | darth_mall | head cartwheels? |
| 21:22.56 | hardwire | ouch buttons are the small buttons on top of baseball caps |
| 21:23.03 | darth_mall | oh, I don't wear hats |
| 21:23.04 | hardwire | which is why.. only dumb people wear hats |
| 21:23.08 | hardwire | I wear a hat |
| 21:23.08 | darth_mall | certainly not baseball caps |
| 21:23.12 | hardwire | :( |
| 21:23.16 | darth_mall | but I do lots of head cartweehls |
| 21:23.20 | hardwire | hahh |
| 21:23.25 | hardwire | well I seaid leading cause.. not only cause |
| 21:23.39 | darth_mall | touche |
| 21:23.51 | hardwire | darth_mall: forward head cartwheels? |
| 21:23.57 | hardwire | I used to do them when I was a youngin |
| 21:24.09 | darth_mall | that's called mortao |
| 21:24.13 | darth_mall | it's different |
| 21:24.15 | darth_mall | but I do those too |
| 21:25.40 | hardwire | darth_mall: I avoid hitting the head |
| 21:25.42 | hardwire | and go right to the shoulders |
| 21:25.48 | hardwire | seems smarter in some way. |
| 21:40.43 | purple_cow | ooh, neat |
| 21:40.44 | purple_cow | http://www.onlinekimchi.com/catalog/index.php |
| 21:56.48 | ChipX86 | http://www.thinkgeek.com/cubegoodies/lights/7a4c/ -- "You see, after the Flying Spaghetti Monster created the universe, he used his great noodly appendage to create volcanoes. Pirates need islands, and naturally islands need volcanoes." |
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| 22:07.41 | Sophie[work] | Hurrah for Serenity! |
| 22:09.51 | Sophie197 | YAY I SAY. |
| 22:19.45 | Sophie197 | dammit. |
| 22:39.38 | hardwire | http://www.jwz.org/images/hamster.jpg |
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