| 00:00.07 | ChipX86 | oh, or maybe he's trying to relay that wisdom to alucard |
| 00:00.08 | ChipX86 | not sure |
| 00:00.24 | darth_mall | cplusplus? |
| 00:00.30 | ChipX86 | some guy in #vmware |
| 00:00.34 | darth_mall | oh |
| 00:00.56 | darth_mall | ... upside your head! |
| 00:02.16 | darth_mall | cats are leaky pieces of meat... |
| 00:02.39 | slimspace | s/meat/dead meat/ |
| 00:02.54 | ChipX86 | hmm, Josh found a chick for me |
| 00:03.03 | ChipX86 | I'm not sure why he did that, or who this Josh character is |
| 00:03.29 | ChipX86 | but it was nice that he spent the time to do that and then e-mail me about it |
| 00:04.01 | ChipX86 | also, I've been especially invited to dozens of porn sites where women are just waiting for me, apparently |
| 00:04.13 | kergoth | hehe |
| 00:04.20 | darth_mall | isn't that awesome? I feel so loved when I get those e-mails |
| 00:04.27 | ChipX86 | yep |
| 00:05.35 | ChipX86 | http://www.thinkgeek.com/cubegoodies/toys/7a5c/ |
| 00:05.45 | ChipX86 | file: stop looking for girls for me. I already have one. |
| 00:05.53 | file | ChipX86: ok :( |
| 00:06.13 | ChipX86 | http://www.thinkgeek.com/cubegoodies/toys/778d/ |
| 00:06.29 | kergoth | haha |
| 00:06.32 | kergoth | that rabbit is sweet |
| 00:07.21 | darth_mall | rabbits taste kind of like chicken |
| 00:07.50 | file | darth_mall: are you a fan of rabbits? |
| 00:08.32 | darth_mall | yep |
| 00:08.37 | darth_mall | as pets, wild animals, and food |
| 00:08.48 | file | excellent! |
| 00:08.51 | alm262 | rabit meat? |
| 00:08.52 | alm262 | sounds nasty |
| 00:08.57 | darth_mall | it's ok |
| 00:09.01 | darth_mall | tastes like chicken |
| 00:09.07 | darth_mall | slightly different texture |
| 00:09.41 | hardwire | france! |
| 00:10.03 | darth_mall | it's terribly common in France, but there are also restaurants around that serve rabbit |
| 00:10.26 | darth_mall | I was at the Flagstaff house the last time I had it |
| 00:11.03 | hardwire | mmm |
| 00:11.04 | hardwire | rabbit |
| 00:11.09 | hardwire | really. |
| 00:11.16 | hardwire | I wanna try basted rabbit |
| 00:11.25 | hardwire | ona spit |
| 00:11.34 | ChipX86 | woah, someone put a ton of stuff in the quips list just very very recently |
| 00:11.42 | ChipX86 | and most aren't even good |
| 00:13.01 | ChipX86 | you can tell it's the swame person too, given the "!!" on each one |
| 00:13.04 | ChipX86 | s/swame/same/ |
| 00:15.41 | darth_mall | !!!!!!! |
| 00:15.44 | hardwire | !! |
| 00:17.24 | darth_mall | hardwire: exactly! |
| 00:17.31 | hardwire | ahem |
| 00:17.45 | darth_mall | thanks |
| 00:17.49 | CIA-5 | smrt: 03jupiter * r121 10docs/ (6 files in 3 dirs): add a cityscape figure, resize the "document" on circle menu to better match the aspect ratio of the other two, and make the architecture document use subfigures |
| 00:17.53 | darth_mall | yay!! |
| 00:18.34 | scanlime | mwahaha |
| 00:18.37 | darth_mall | aww... so pretty |
| 00:18.53 | darth_mall | and yay subfigures |
| 00:19.22 | scanlime | ChipX86: http://vmweb/~micah/vusb.png |
| 00:19.23 | scanlime | =D |
| 00:19.34 | slimspace | purple_cow: nifty |
| 00:20.02 | ChipX86 | ooh neat |
| 00:20.10 | darth_mall | ooh... http://www.thinkgeek.com/books/humor/7838/ |
| 00:23.39 | purple_cow | darth_mall: hehe |
| 00:24.01 | ChipX86 | I need to get another linux box in here for builds |
| 00:24.04 | ChipX86 | got three builds I have to do here |
| 00:28.51 | purple_cow | bonus points to whoever figures out how to add a real caption to the subfigures |
| 00:29.09 | darth_mall | what do you mean? |
| 00:30.01 | purple_cow | well, it has (a) ... (b) ... (c) ... |
| 00:30.13 | purple_cow | but under that, we should have "Figure 2: ..." |
| 00:30.17 | purple_cow | with some longer explaination |
| 00:32.04 | darth_mall | what's that \quad command? |
| 00:32.24 | purple_cow | adds in some space |
| 00:33.02 | darth_mall | and why is it in an mbox? |
| 00:33.04 | hardwire | darth_mall: surprised that isn't a chainsaw and a boomstick on the cover |
| 00:33.50 | purple_cow | the format is mostly copied from an example |
| 00:34.15 | CIA-5 | smrt: 03evan * r122 10docs/system-architecture/architecture.tex: Add a caption to the mock ups |
| 00:35.32 | darth_mall | oh right... the mbox puts all three figures in a row |
| 00:36.23 | CIA-5 | smrt: 03jupiter * r123 10docs/system-architecture/figures/: hush |
| 00:36.59 | scanlime | mwahaha |
| 00:37.05 | scanlime | ChipX86: http://vmweb/~micah/usb-fu.png |
| 00:37.18 | scanlime | ChipX86: it's still a bit unstable... :) |
| 00:39.09 | CIA-5 | smrt: 03jupiter * r124 10docs/system-architecture/architecture.tex: better sizing, spacing, and source ws |
| 00:41.54 | lurgy | uh oh, looks like smrt work is getting done |
| 00:42.30 | purple_cow | if by "work" you mean "fiddling with latex", then yes |
| 00:42.38 | lurgy | hurray |
| 00:42.43 | lurgy | well really, that's the best kind of work |
| 00:43.18 | hardwire | har |
| 00:45.53 | ChipX86 | woah |
| 00:46.00 | ChipX86 | I just checked the IBM Order Status page again, the direct link I was given |
| 00:46.04 | ChipX86 | they deleted my order information |
| 00:46.18 | purple_cow | =/ |
| 00:46.26 | ChipX86 | wtf is going on |
| 00:46.33 | ChipX86 | fortunately I printed it out earlier just in case |
| 00:47.26 | ChipX86 | oh it's back now |
| 00:47.32 | ChipX86 | server hickup perhap |
| 00:47.32 | ChipX86 | s |
| 00:52.10 | scanlime | oh my god |
| 00:54.09 | scanlime | huh |
| 00:54.15 | scanlime | usbview's device tree can't scroll |
| 00:55.19 | ChipX86 | there, all sented |
| 00:56.23 | hardwire | scented? |
| 00:56.33 | hardwire | are you marking territory |
| 00:56.59 | ChipX86 | sent the order info |
| 00:57.02 | ChipX86 | hopefully now they'll send me a laptop |
| 00:57.06 | ChipX86 | but I won't bet on it |
| 01:02.39 | ChipX86 | ack, it's 6 already? |
| 01:02.47 | ChipX86 | grr, the day went by too fast |
| 01:02.49 | scanlime | wow |
| 01:02.50 | scanlime | yeah |
| 01:05.49 | ChipX86 | guess I should think about going home |
| 01:08.08 | kergoth | i should think about doing some work. bit behind on a task |
| 01:08.12 | kergoth | hmm |
| 01:39.02 | darth_mall | mmm... task |
| 01:51.28 | scanlime | take that, bratwurst! |
| 01:51.57 | scanlime | OMG |
| 01:52.00 | scanlime | I'm out of beer |
| 01:52.16 | scanlime | can't have bratwurst without beer, can you? |
| 01:52.20 | slimspace | yay electric fields |
| 01:52.49 | scanlime | none of which go with bratwurst |
| 01:52.59 | scanlime | oh, and orange juice |
| 01:53.01 | scanlime | still... |
| 01:54.16 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03evan * r9020 10xchat-gnome/fe-gnome/fe-gnome.c: Stub for fe_server_event in fe-gnome.c to match xchat cvs. |
| 02:01.50 | scanlime | blah.. need to reemerge mplayer with the 'aac' use flag to get sound on Monk... |
| 02:02.35 | *** join/#tacobeam laodamas (n=cehoward@c-67-166-53-18.hsd1.co.comcast.net) |
| 02:26.10 | ChipX86 | mmm sushi |
| 02:26.48 | scanlime | mmm bratwurst |
| 02:26.51 | scanlime | these turned out really good |
| 02:33.53 | laodamas | scanlime: you should deep fry them next time |
| 02:34.48 | scanlime | haha |
| 02:37.41 | Veight | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:40.39 | ChipX86 | awww! |
| 02:40.41 | ChipX86 | Monk with a kid |
| 02:42.33 | ChipX86 | hahaha |
| 02:42.35 | ChipX86 | this is a great one |
| 02:57.35 | file | blah |
| 02:58.57 | kergoth | mm, guinness |
| 03:03.52 | file[laptop] | open source soap opera, oh joy |
| 03:03.57 | ChipX86 | ? |
| 03:05.16 | file[laptop] | ChipX86: I'm losing friends because they found my name on a commit message |
| 03:05.28 | ChipX86 | losing friends? |
| 03:05.45 | file[laptop] | as in "i'll miss ya, file." and then the person no longer answers me |
| 03:05.51 | ChipX86 | why? |
| 03:06.00 | file[laptop] | because I'm part of the fork of the project |
| 03:06.07 | file[laptop] | despite still being part of the original one |
| 03:06.10 | ChipX86 | ugh |
| 03:06.29 | ChipX86 | that really sucks :( |
| 03:06.32 | file[laptop] | yes |
| 03:07.03 | file[laptop] | it's gotten so bad that Mark, the creator of Asterisk - the original project, called the boss of one of the people who commited something and bitched about it |
| 03:13.20 | purple_cow | i hate open-source politics |
| 03:13.44 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 03:15.51 | purple_cow | a lot of people seem to forget that it's just code |
| 03:16.10 | ChipX86 | it's religion and territory to some people |
| 03:16.14 | ChipX86 | a lot of people |
| 03:18.39 | file[laptop] | I could see it if we were competing and making money off of it, but we're not... it's just a group of developers taking care and giving it some new driving force and modifying it to be how it should have been |
| 03:18.48 | file[laptop] | er taking charge |
| 03:20.56 | file[laptop] | tomorrow is another day! |
| 03:31.42 | purple_cow | file[laptop]: the issue is that some people think that's not how it should have been |
| 03:32.01 | purple_cow | and for some reason, they feel betrayed when someone exercises the GPL in that way |
| 03:35.12 | nullpuppy | *sigh* my life suddenly got way to fscking busy |
| 03:35.32 | ChipX86 | how? |
| 03:37.05 | nullpuppy | just tons of stuff to do. Have some software I need to get working and usable for rollout in October, have a friend coming up this weekend (just got back from a year in Iraq), need to dig up a quote for a gaming system, need to find a dvd-rw for an acer laptop, and .. well.. other stuff ;) |
| 03:52.32 | kergoth | hehe, 3 shamans in an instance = a LOT of totems |
| 03:53.32 | nullpuppy | hehe |
| 03:53.39 | nullpuppy | 2 each at that lvl right? or is it 3? |
| 03:55.16 | kergoth | 4 |
| 03:55.18 | kergoth | one of each element |
| 03:55.25 | kergoth | i'm nearly 55 :P |
| 03:55.31 | nullpuppy | damn! :) |
| 03:58.33 | purple_cow | ♫ Not quite a fembot / but almost an alien / she's in the smell-of-the-month club / I feel it in my lungs / Lesbian junkie funky / slam dunk a cosmonaut / laser guns and having fun ♫ |
| 04:05.00 | darth_mall | uhoh... some john treevolta movie on tv |
| 04:06.47 | scanlime | yikes, purple_cow's fancy characters worked |
| 04:12.16 | *** join/#tacobeam purple_cow (n=blardebl@david-apt.navi.cx) |
| 04:12.57 | darth_mall | ouch |
| 04:13.32 | kergoth | wow, thats the first time i've had enough buffs to overlap onto the second line |
| 04:13.38 | kergoth | over 10 |
| 04:15.55 | purple_cow | can anyone else get to zero? :P |
| 04:16.14 | darth_mall | but I can't ssh in |
| 04:16.24 | darth_mall | can ping it ok |
| 04:16.56 | scanlime | hmm |
| 04:16.59 | scanlime | same as darth_mall here |
| 04:17.12 | purple_cow | same here, except it looks like my ctrlproxy got deaded |
| 04:17.24 | scanlime | ick |
| 04:17.49 | darth_mall | I'll be damned |
| 04:18.01 | darth_mall | Ben Affleck and Matt Damon were in Field of Dreams as extras in Fenway |
| 04:19.12 | scanlime | hehe |
| 04:19.56 | scanlime | purple_cow: I can get to the console fine, and there aren't any error messages, but zero's console login has been broken for a while so I can't do much other than reboot it :( |
| 04:26.01 | scanlime | k |
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| 04:33.06 | scanlime | heh |
| 04:33.11 | scanlime | that looked suspiciously like another disk leak |
| 04:33.49 | file[laptop] | salvaged my relationship with the creator of Asterisk... I think... |
| 04:37.22 | *** join/#tacobeam darth_mall (n=evan@zero.navi.cx) |
| 04:37.47 | darth_mall | who missed me? |
| 04:37.56 | file[laptop] | darth_mall: I did!!! |
| 04:38.13 | purple_cow | who *didn't* ? |
| 04:38.46 | darth_mall | yay |
| 04:41.00 | purple_cow | oooh |
| 04:41.01 | purple_cow | http://www.stephencooks.com/2005/06/calamari_pizza_.html |
| 04:41.06 | purple_cow | yay mogwai |
| 04:46.14 | kergoth | hahaha |
| 04:46.15 | kergoth | http://www.curse-gaming.com/mod.php?addid=1823 |
| 04:46.25 | kergoth | "I made this quick mod for somebody who was less-than-comfortable around spiders, and requested that they be replaced with something less threatening. |
| 04:46.25 | kergoth | After installing this mod, it replaces all spider models with pandas. Simply extract the .zip into your worldofwarcraft/data directory, and you're spider free." |
| 04:46.51 | ChipX86 | kergoth: Jamie would love that |
| 04:52.49 | scanlime | laptop + blanket = superheated laptop |
| 04:52.58 | ChipX86 | yep |
| 04:52.58 | scanlime | superheated laptop + legs = ow |
| 04:53.56 | file[laptop] | scanlime: :( |
| 04:57.49 | darth_mall | I would be so happy if this homework would just start working |
| 05:00.49 | purple_cow | hrm, so jen claims there's cooking going on saturday |
| 05:01.13 | purple_cow | if there are 3 or fewer in the kitchen, i vote we do it at my place, since my kitchen is better equipped :) |
| 05:02.09 | numist | I like how you work, purple_cow |
| 05:02.38 | purple_cow | numist: hmm? |
| 05:02.39 | ChipX86 | man, what is with 4 8 15 16 23 42 on this show.. |
| 05:05.31 | numist | a la kitchen |
| 05:06.42 | darth_mall | so the reason this test was failing was because the test was incorrect, not the methods I was testing... this still does not help me figure out what's wrong with my code... |
| 05:06.43 | darth_mall | arg |
| 05:07.29 | purple_cow | hmm |
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| 05:18.03 | *** part/#tacobeam luqui (n=luqui@c-67-165-197-242.hsd1.co.comcast.net) |
| 05:20.11 | scanlime | yay, rent... |
| 05:20.46 | numist | yay |
| 05:21.49 | purple_cow | it smells like winter outside :D |
| 05:21.57 | kergoth | yay |
| 05:22.02 | nullpuppy | yay! |
| 05:24.33 | numist | I just found a source for some serious capacitors... |
| 05:25.52 | purple_cow | scanlime: maybe |
| 05:26.00 | purple_cow | could be you come out here and it's 70 degrees out ;) |
| 05:26.13 | darth_mall | hmm |
| 05:26.32 | darth_mall | I think I may have fixed the bug |
| 05:26.59 | kergoth | sigh |
| 05:27.11 | kergoth | i'm geting bored and uninterested at work already |
| 05:27.14 | kergoth | not a good sign |
| 05:27.27 | scanlime | purple_cow: this won't be the only time |
| 05:27.27 | nullpuppy | :( |
| 05:27.35 | scanlime | purple_cow: I figure I'll get lucky |
| 05:27.39 | scanlime | once or twice |
| 05:27.44 | purple_cow | scanlime: yeah, but you never know... |
| 05:27.49 | kergoth | learning about networking was fun for a bit, but now i've got all the major concepts down, all thats left is reading rfcs on oddball protocols and things |
| 05:27.52 | scanlime | ooh neat.. I think my pbuffer code is done, and it's segfaulting inside libGL |
| 05:28.11 | kergoth | and i'm basically just doing bugfixing and new features on an existing product.. which is uninteresting. need a new product development |
| 05:28.25 | purple_cow | you need a different career :P |
| 05:28.57 | kergoth | yes |
| 05:29.15 | kergoth | but my problem is.. i like making good money :P |
| 05:30.51 | scanlime | maybe you just need to be better at exploring the nuances of things so you don't run out of things to learn :) |
| 05:32.23 | darth_mall | Mogwai Fear Satan is a really neat song |
| 05:32.51 | purple_cow | darth_mall: have you listened to come on die young yet? |
| 05:33.11 | darth_mall | I think so, but not recently |
| 05:33.28 | purple_cow | 'tis my favorite album of theirs :) |
| 05:33.32 | darth_mall | today is the first day I've really noticed Mogwai |
| 05:33.42 | darth_mall | I've listened to them and liked them for a bit, but never really noticed them |
| 05:33.47 | darth_mall | if that makes any sense |
| 05:33.59 | kergoth | it does |
| 05:35.36 | darth_mall | I vow from this day forth to stab anyone in the mouth that disparages unit testing |
| 05:35.42 | kergoth | can i help? |
| 05:35.45 | darth_mall | indeed |
| 05:36.32 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03micah * r9021 10loopy/ (loopy.c pbuffer-cube.py): Implemented a fresh new way of segfaulting libGL, disguised as a pbuffers API |
| 05:36.41 | darth_mall | I have 21 unit tests and 5 games that prove that my code works |
| 05:36.44 | darth_mall | and it feels good |
| 05:36.51 | purple_cow | scanlime: :) |
| 05:37.44 | scanlime | it'd be nice if they gave me a GL error or something... |
| 05:45.15 | kergoth | "The violence may be too much for the queasy, the self-aware humour may be too much for the diagetic purists and the visual style may be too much for those with more cynicism than taste, but in the end Sin City must be appreciated for the simple fact that it is something new. And let's just hope that it is only a taste of things to come." |
| 05:45.16 | kergoth | heh |
| 05:47.29 | darth_mall | yeah, I have heard this |
| 05:47.34 | darth_mall | this was the first one I listened to |
| 05:48.43 | purple_cow | :) |
| 05:49.09 | darth_mall | I wonder who it is that is talking on the first track... I can't place the voice |
| 05:51.05 | purple_cow | iggy pop |
| 05:51.33 | darth_mall | ah |
| 05:51.38 | numist | yay iggy pop |
| 05:51.42 | darth_mall | I knew he sounded familiar |
| 05:52.18 | purple_cow | do you have any idea how hard it was to research that? |
| 05:52.25 | purple_cow | :) |
| 05:57.48 | darth_mall | it couldn't have taken that long |
| 05:58.20 | purple_cow | hmm, really? :P |
| 05:58.23 | darth_mall | yep |
| 06:00.37 | ChipX86 | http://pygame.org/shots/88.jpg |
| 06:00.59 | purple_cow | hah |
| 06:01.36 | scanlime | hehe, I remember that game |
| 06:17.21 | ChipX86 | does python have some standard way of doing enums? |
| 06:18.02 | scanlime | there are a couple common idioms |
| 06:18.37 | scanlime | usually you'll see several all-caps attributes at the class or module level pointing to interned strings or numbers |
| 06:18.41 | scanlime | like.. |
| 06:18.47 | scanlime | class Foo: |
| 06:18.55 | scanlime | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:18.56 | scanlime | or |
| 06:18.58 | scanlime | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:19.20 | scanlime | the strings are often used in an opaque fashion, since it's pretty much just as efficient as numbers in python but it makes it easier to debug |
| 06:19.31 | scanlime | if you want a sequence of numbers, you'll often see something like: |
| 06:19.47 | scanlime | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:20.07 | ChipX86 | cool |
| 06:20.26 | scanlime | of course, enums aren't all that common in python except in code that needs to be particularly efficient, or code that talks to C |
| 06:20.43 | scanlime | often you want to separate the functionality each enum would represent into some kind of object |
| 06:20.48 | ChipX86 | I'm using it for orientation (HORIZONTAL and VERTICAL) and directions |
| 06:21.34 | scanlime | hm. that's a good use for something enum-like, but if you want to get a bit more pythonic, you can have Horizontal and Vertical classes |
| 06:21.43 | numist | :o |
| 06:21.45 | numist | thats horrible |
| 06:22.03 | scanlime | you could use the 'is' operator to do a direct comparison if necessary, or they could have methods that perform layout or other operations horizontally/vertically |
| 06:22.17 | scanlime | numist: heretic! |
| 06:22.21 | ChipX86 | ick, no :) |
| 06:22.29 | ChipX86 | I have no use for that |
| 06:22.36 | scanlime | heh |
| 06:22.45 | numist | cloop is a drug that has been ruining peoples minds |
| 06:22.54 | numist | someimtes you just need some enums.. or som lib funcs |
| 06:22.56 | numist | some* |
| 06:23.03 | numist | ugh lag |
| 06:23.07 | numist | s/cloop/oop/ |
| 06:23.14 | ChipX86 | cloop! |
| 06:23.23 | scanlime | numist: heh, the whole idea behind python is that everything's an object :P |
| 06:23.29 | numist | thats horrible |
| 06:23.34 | scanlime | you can subclass integers if you want |
| 06:23.38 | ChipX86 | heh |
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| 06:23.52 | numist | that makes me sad |
| 06:23.57 | scanlime | nobody cares! |
| 06:23.59 | kergoth | i love that. subclassing types is really useful. have used it for dict and the like on multiple occasions |
| 06:24.05 | kergoth | heh |
| 06:24.08 | scanlime | yeah |
| 06:24.30 | scanlime | helps to know that a string is XML, for example, when you're writing a web framework |
| 06:26.08 | kergoth | haha |
| 06:26.08 | kergoth | http://www.tshirthell.com/store/product.php?productid=535 |
| 06:26.33 | CIA-5 | osiris-misc: 03chipx86 * r287 10taco/ (7 files in 4 dirs): |
| 06:26.33 | CIA-5 | osiris-misc: - Move Thingie, Connector, and Slot into taco.machine |
| 06:26.33 | CIA-5 | osiris-misc: - Added an Orientation, um, enum-thingy. Wall uses it now. For some definition of use. |
| 06:26.50 | kergoth | http://www.tshirthell.com/store/product.php?productid=537 |
| 06:27.55 | kergoth | http://www.tshirthell.com/store/product.php?productid=528 .. hahaha, thats so wrong |
| 06:28.19 | darth_mall | I think I finished my AI homework |
| 06:28.23 | darth_mall | and the heuristic I came up with does indeed seem better |
| 06:28.43 | purple_cow | yay better |
| 06:29.54 | darth_mall | indeed |
| 06:33.51 | nullpuppy | http://applegeeks.com/ hahaha, Hawk sculpted the Fruit Fucker from PA out of clay |
| 06:34.40 | kergoth | haha |
| 06:41.18 | CIA-5 | osiris-misc: 03chipx86 * r288 10taco/ (3 files in 3 dirs): Move most of the BrickWall code into StraightWall. Make the orientation mandatory. |
| 06:46.45 | ChipX86 | Blind Date is funny |
| 06:48.52 | ChipX86 | wow, they brought back McGruff |
| 06:55.12 | darth_mall | blah |
| 06:56.56 | darth_mall | ah hah! |
| 06:58.22 | darth_mall | alright sleep time for me |
| 07:02.06 | ChipX86 | gah, the horror |
| 07:02.11 | ChipX86 | they're showing Hero, dubbed |
| 07:02.46 | nullpuppy | hehe |
| 07:02.56 | ChipX86 | nothing good to watch.. |
| 07:03.49 | nullpuppy | well.. I think I'm gonna head to bed.. lots to do in the morning |
| 07:04.05 | ChipX86 | g'night |
| 07:04.40 | nullpuppy | g'night |
| 07:21.58 | kergoth | hmm ... http://www.gnuarch.org/revc/ |
| 07:22.13 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03micah * r9022 10loopy/ (loopy.c pbuffer-cube.py): Yay. The demo app right now is really cheesy, but pbuffers work |
| 07:26.00 | scanlime | hehe.. "Scientifically documented sightings of Santa Claus. It's on the internet, so you know it's true." |
| 07:28.51 | purple_cow | eek |
| 07:29.19 | scanlime | eek? |
| 07:29.38 | purple_cow | loopy doesn't build on my laptop |
| 07:29.50 | scanlime | what's the problem? |
| 07:30.08 | scanlime | I wouldn't be surprised if the glx headers are screwing up portability |
| 07:30.38 | purple_cow | yep |
| 07:30.49 | scanlime | so spit out the error already :P |
| 07:30.57 | purple_cow | loopy.c:1748: error: conflicting types for 'glXGetProcAddress' |
| 07:30.57 | purple_cow | /usr/include/GL/glx.h:112: error: previous declaration of 'glXGetProcAddress' was here |
| 07:31.05 | scanlime | ahh, damnit |
| 07:31.20 | purple_cow | i've just got the normal SGI headers |
| 07:31.29 | purple_cow | no fancy-schmancy nvidia ones |
| 07:31.39 | scanlime | can you take a look at your header and figure out how to keep it from defining glXGetProcAddress? |
| 07:31.56 | scanlime | the problem is that it's trying to define it as a function pointer, and loopy needs to define a normal function with that name |
| 07:32.19 | scanlime | if you look at the very beginning of loopy.c you'll see the hack that worked on my system to that effect |
| 07:32.41 | purple_cow | yeah, the nvidia headers have that |
| 07:32.52 | scanlime | right.. nothing similar in the sgi headers? |
| 07:32.57 | purple_cow | no |
| 07:33.01 | scanlime | guh |
| 07:33.06 | purple_cow | just a plain old function pointer without any #ifdefs |
| 07:33.23 | scanlime | I guess that means I avoid including any glx headers and copy the #defines in myself :P |
| 07:33.59 | purple_cow | yay! |
| 07:34.31 | scanlime | or hmm |
| 07:34.41 | scanlime | wonder if there's a gcc __attribute__ thing I can use to get around this |
| 07:35.06 | scanlime | it's cheesy :P |
| 07:35.55 | purple_cow | hah |
| 07:36.01 | purple_cow | that's terrible |
| 07:36.03 | scanlime | isn't it? |
| 07:36.13 | scanlime | I'll get around to making one that doesn't suck quite so much... |
| 07:36.21 | scanlime | hopefully involving a separable gaussian blur =D |
| 07:36.36 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r9023 10loopy/Makefile: add a clean rule |
| 07:37.19 | purple_cow | err, hum |
| 07:37.35 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r9024 10loopy/Makefile: that doesn't work |
| 07:37.41 | scanlime | heh |
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| 07:52.48 | CIA-5 | osiris-misc: 03chipx86 * r289 10taco/ (4 files in 4 dirs): |
| 07:52.48 | CIA-5 | osiris-misc: Added a function that takes an image and an optional border width and an area |
| 07:52.48 | CIA-5 | osiris-misc: and tiles the image inside that border width into the destination area, tiling |
| 07:52.48 | CIA-5 | osiris-misc: the border of the image around the new tiled area. Does that make sense |
| 08:00.25 | CIA-5 | osiris-misc: 03chipx86 * r290 10taco/ (8 files in 3 dirs): |
| 08:00.25 | CIA-5 | osiris-misc: - Renamed brickwall-red.* to brickwall-red-horiz.*. |
| 08:00.25 | CIA-5 | osiris-misc: - StraightWall now takes a horiz filename and a vert filename. BrickWall supplies both. Vertical brick walls don't suck as much anymore. |
| 08:12.17 | purple_cow | oh no! |
| 08:12.27 | purple_cow | ImportError: No module named machine |
| 08:13.01 | CIA-5 | osiris-misc: 03chipx86 * r291 10taco/src/taco/machine.py: Silly purple_cow, machine.py is for kids! |
| 08:17.17 | CIA-5 | osiris-misc: 03chipx86 * r292 10taco/ (ChangeLog src/taco/sprite.py): Revert the code to compute the number of tiles back to how it was before, since it doesn't work as well now. |
| 08:26.17 | CIA-5 | osiris-misc: 03chipx86 * r293 10taco/ (ChangeLog src/taco/__init__.py src/taco/ui/canvas.py): Fix an off-by-one in Rectangle.containsRect. Objects should now be able to be placed right next to each other. This was very noticeable with walls. |
| 08:28.26 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03micah * r9025 10loopy/loopy.c: Loopy's dependencies are back down to only Python and glibc |
| 08:28.28 | scanlime | mwahaha |
| 08:28.29 | scanlime | purple_cow: try that |
| 08:29.07 | scanlime | it's amazing how small a subset I actually use out of those four giant headers |
| 08:32.41 | purple_cow | builds |
| 08:33.45 | purple_cow | hrm |
| 08:33.56 | purple_cow | runs, except it couldn't create the pbuffer on my laptop... |
| 08:34.31 | scanlime | hmm |
| 08:34.43 | scanlime | it worked before r9025? |
| 08:35.03 | scanlime | what version of GLX do you have? |
| 08:35.06 | ChipX86 | weird.. feels like there's water in my ear, like I've been swimming |
| 08:35.33 | purple_cow | scanlime: i couldn't build before that |
| 08:35.41 | purple_cow | client glx version string: 1.4 |
| 08:35.46 | purple_cow | i've got GLX_SGIX_pbuffer |
| 08:35.54 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03micah * r9026 10loopy/loopy.c: Just rearrange a bit for readability, group the dynamically-resolved symbols up with the other external API definitions. |
| 08:35.55 | purple_cow | RuntimeError: Could not create pbuffer |
| 08:36.01 | scanlime | hm, ok |
| 08:36.17 | scanlime | if it got that far it's loaded the pbuffer extension just fine |
| 08:36.34 | scanlime | but there might not have been any pbuffer-friendly fbconfigs |
| 08:36.37 | ChipX86 | meh |
| 08:36.54 | ChipX86 | file A needs to import file B, and file B needs to import file A. There's nothing I can really do but split things out, is there? |
| 08:37.14 | scanlime | ChipX86: you *should* split things out... there are ways of getting around it, but you don't want to |
| 08:37.19 | ChipX86 | nod |
| 08:37.33 | scanlime | you can move one of the imports to the bottom of the file :) |
| 08:38.05 | scanlime | but it's good to just avoid situations where you care too much about the exact execution order during import |
| 08:38.10 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 08:38.29 | scanlime | ooh, it got late... |
| 08:38.30 | ChipX86 | problem is that I wanted to move Selection into its own file, but it's a canvas.Object |
| 08:38.37 | ChipX86 | and canvas.Canvas needs to use Selection |
| 08:38.55 | ChipX86 | that's one problem |
| 08:39.02 | ChipX86 | the other is that now Selection needs something in another file |
| 08:39.06 | scanlime | ChipX86: that's common.. you pretty much have to either keep it all in one place or move canvas.Object into a separate file |
| 08:39.07 | ChipX86 | but that file needs something in canvas stlil |
| 08:39.11 | ChipX86 | meh |
| 08:39.11 | ChipX86 | ok |
| 08:41.23 | CIA-5 | osiris-misc: 03chipx86 * r294 10taco/ (6 files in 4 dirs): Do some shuffling, and allow objects to handle their own resize events when the user resizes the object. |
| 08:45.05 | scanlime | :( |
| 08:45.09 | ChipX86 | :( |
| 08:48.28 | scanlime | wow, there's a debian package for picp |
| 08:50.43 | ChipX86 | ok that's just awesome. |
| 08:51.11 | CIA-5 | osiris-misc: 03chipx86 * r295 10taco/ (4 files in 4 dirs): Resizing walls now works like in TIM. If you resize a horizontal wall vertically, it becomes a vertical wall, and vice-versa. It rocks. |
| 08:52.13 | scanlime | nice |
| 08:52.36 | purple_cow | ChipX86: very cool |
| 08:53.06 | ChipX86 | argh, damn laptop |
| 08:53.11 | ChipX86 | ok, going to bed |
| 08:53.17 | scanlime | g'night |
| 08:53.20 | ChipX86|Sleep | g'night |
| 08:53.58 | ChipX86|Sleep | scanlime: it's nothing that impressive yet, but it's fun |
| 08:54.06 | scanlime | :) |
| 08:55.19 | scanlime | stupid thing doesn't like this version of my PICSTART programmer's firmware |
| 09:06.40 | scanlime | damnit |
| 09:06.46 | scanlime | wasabi kernel paniced |
| 09:07.14 | scanlime | heh.. guess my mi6k driver isn't entirely safe for hot-unplugging while it's busy |
| 09:13.28 | purple_cow | heh |
| 09:13.35 | purple_cow | ohh |
| 09:13.44 | scanlime | yay |
| 09:13.48 | purple_cow | i don't suppose you could make the default brightness one setting lower while you're at it? :) |
| 09:13.53 | scanlime | ahm |
| 09:14.04 | scanlime | that's not something that the PIC firmware ever sets |
| 09:14.14 | scanlime | the PIC just acts as a USB to serial bridge, all that logic is in the VFD's onboard firmware |
| 09:14.18 | purple_cow | righto |
| 09:14.24 | scanlime | and I just burned two OTP chips |
| 09:14.32 | scanlime | with the same settings... and tested one in my mi6k box |
| 09:14.37 | scanlime | you should be good to go |
| 09:14.42 | purple_cow | cool beans |
| 09:14.49 | purple_cow | now all i have to do is build the damned thing |
| 09:15.01 | scanlime | it was kind of nostalgic taking the firmware out of my mi6k |
| 09:15.05 | scanlime | it had a 3-digit revision number |
| 09:15.28 | purple_cow | wow |
| 09:16.32 | scanlime | I can't find my stickers for labeling these |
| 09:16.41 | scanlime | you'll have to do that later, if you care |
| 09:16.55 | purple_cow | i don't really care |
| 09:16.56 | scanlime | I built it from current svn, but I don't think it's changed in ages |
| 09:17.24 | purple_cow | isn't most of the sticker's job to cover up the window? :) |
| 09:17.39 | scanlime | yeah, but it also helps to know that this is mi6k firmware :) |
| 09:17.48 | scanlime | otherwise it's just a mystery chip |
| 09:18.05 | scanlime | I guess with USB it's less of a mystery, since you can just plug it in and read the descriptors |
| 09:18.13 | purple_cow | yep |
| 09:19.15 | scanlime | if you want one with a plug I can do that, but this one's a lot cuter than my others.. and I figure you'll want to put your own plug on it anyway |
| 09:20.05 | scanlime | hmm yeah |
| 09:20.16 | scanlime | latest mi6k firmware commit that wasn't whitespace or some kind of housekeeping was r772 |
| 09:20.24 | scanlime | and I think that's the label my box had |
| 09:20.35 | scanlime | I sure hope so, since IIRC r772 was a really important buffering bugfix :) |
| 09:21.23 | purple_cow | but suppose YDRC? |
| 09:21.37 | purple_cow | what then?! |
| 09:22.04 | scanlime | then my mi6k could be losing bits, and we're all doomed! |
| 09:22.17 | scanlime | since bits are a non-renewable resource |
| 09:23.01 | purple_cow | hmm, bitleaker |
| 09:23.09 | purple_cow | it's like a modern-day chupacabra |
| 09:23.21 | scanlime | haha |
| 09:26.23 | purple_cow | rofl |
| 09:26.24 | purple_cow | http://www.scarygoround.com/ |
| 09:27.49 | purple_cow | i need that book in the last frame |
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| 16:16.42 | Veight | hello |
| 16:18.28 | file | hi |
| 16:18.52 | Veight | hows life going file? |
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| 16:36.36 | scanlime | rofl |
| 16:36.38 | scanlime | http://bmaurer.blogspot.com/2005/09/numbers.html |
| 16:40.33 | Veight | hah |
| 16:52.22 | kergoth | god i feel like shit today |
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| 16:55.08 | Cae | hey dan :) |
| 16:58.22 | lurgy | hi cae |
| 17:01.40 | ChipX86 | and there goes edonkey |
| 17:03.09 | purple_cow | silly ChipX86, donkeys aren't electronic |
| 17:11.44 | lurgy | hmm |
| 17:11.58 | lurgy | purple_cow: so you oughta come see this john adams piece whenever we perform it |
| 17:12.01 | lurgy | you'd like it |
| 17:12.18 | lurgy | also: minimalism is just as hard to play as it sounds like it would be |
| 17:12.21 | lurgy | maybe harder |
| 17:12.22 | lurgy | blah |
| 17:13.16 | purple_cow | lurgy: when? |
| 17:13.34 | ChipX86 | http://bmaurer.blogspot.com/2005/09/numbers.html |
| 17:13.40 | ChipX86 | that made me laugh |
| 17:13.54 | lurgy | hmm, whenever the next wind symphony concert is |
| 17:15.02 | lurgy | looks like 8 november |
| 17:15.24 | lurgy | so.. a while off yet ;) |
| 17:15.53 | ChipX86 | woah, breaking news |
| 17:16.00 | ChipX86 | Headline: "Arctic Ice Melts Faster As It Gets Warmer" |
| 17:16.16 | scanlime | oh nos |
| 17:16.23 | purple_cow | lurgy: ah, cool |
| 17:16.35 | ChipX86 | it's a good thing them scientists be doing the thinkin for us |
| 17:17.00 | purple_cow | lurgy: i guess that'll save me from chamber orchestra as convo credit ;) |
| 17:17.06 | scanlime | woo, I'm gonna be almos as late to work as ChipX86 :) |
| 17:17.29 | purple_cow | hum. i just got the most unbelievably strong hankering for pancakes |
| 17:17.31 | lurgy | =) |
| 17:17.39 | lurgy | dammit, so did i |
| 17:18.55 | ChipX86 | scanlime: I'm not late! |
| 17:19.45 | ChipX86 | I should head off too |
| 17:19.56 | purple_cow | mwahaha |
| 17:20.00 | purple_cow | you shall all share in my pain |
| 17:20.05 | ChipX86 | yay! |
| 17:21.03 | nullpuppy | no. no more pain... |
| 17:22.16 | numist | ooh that would be nice |
| 17:24.39 | kergoth | i can crack my back whenever i want, which is handy |
| 17:24.43 | kergoth | heh |
| 17:24.50 | numist | the only things I can crack at will are my fingers |
| 17:25.02 | kergoth | people look at me funny when i crack my neck |
| 17:25.28 | nullpuppy | yeah, I do that too sometimes.. but its beyond self repair right now ;) |
| 17:25.45 | kergoth | hehe |
| 17:26.46 | numist | scanlime: if you're interested in an API to post metrics with... unixmos will be ready to have probes written for it soonish... an API will be made available under some free license if youd like a copy to play with |
| 17:27.05 | numist | hrm.. that was a slightly redundant phrase, wasnt it |
| 17:27.10 | numist | the point is there though |
| 17:34.12 | purple_cow | http://craphound.com/images/wowdanddad.jpg |
| 17:35.06 | numist | seen that.. funny |
| 17:53.36 | scanlime | numist: so when are you releasing a version written in C, called cmos? |
| 17:55.16 | numist | actually.. this one is written in c |
| 17:55.26 | numist | its called unixmos because MOS was originally a windows-only service |
| 17:55.31 | scanlime | :P |
| 17:55.54 | scanlime | it'd still be funnier if you called it cmos |
| 17:56.28 | numist | I still dont have info on getting you some sort of free account to post to, but if you want to hook up your therms without all that messy backend work... |
| 17:56.42 | numist | I can look into it deeper.. I dont forsee any issues |
| 18:03.31 | lurgy | wheeeeeee mos |
| 18:03.42 | lurgy | heh, and yay for circuits homework on mosfets being really easy |
| 18:03.53 | numist | yay |
| 18:04.07 | numist | Im really considering going EE... too bad I hate math with a passion |
| 18:04.16 | numist | everything else is thumbs up, but math -- ugh |
| 18:04.57 | lurgy | hurray math |
| 18:05.03 | lurgy | the ultimate BSing tool |
| 18:05.17 | scanlime | you don't really need math for EE :) |
| 18:05.37 | scanlime | as long as you stay away from filter design and analog voodoo |
| 18:06.28 | lurgy | so pretty much as long as you stick to the lego-like aspects of EE :P |
| 18:06.32 | scanlime | yes |
| 18:07.16 | lurgy | :) |
| 18:07.44 | scanlime | I'm just saying that analyzing a circuit mathematically and being able to intuitively understand what it does are two very different skills, and IMHO the latter is much more useful |
| 18:08.29 | lurgy | sure |
| 18:08.46 | lurgy | but there's much more to EE just designing circuits |
| 18:08.59 | lurgy | s/just/than just/ |
| 18:09.17 | scanlime | oh? you must be in some double-secret upperclassman EE that I never found out about :P |
| 18:10.29 | scanlime | hehe |
| 18:10.40 | lurgy | someone has to design and fabricate all those components you put together you know ;) |
| 18:11.03 | scanlime | that's not what most people tend to think of as EE though |
| 18:11.04 | scanlime | nod |
| 18:11.13 | lurgy | yeah |
| 18:11.17 | lurgy | this is true |
| 18:11.25 | lurgy | s/this/that/ |
| 18:19.36 | numist | sorry, was in a meeting |
| 18:19.45 | numist | I agree with you both though |
| 18:20.02 | numist | and Im a lot more interested in the lego aspect - I like to think intuitively much more than mathematically |
| 18:29.14 | CIA-5 | smrt: 03evan * r125 10docs/system-architecture/architecture.tex: Summarize the UI section. |
| 18:34.56 | scanlime | guh |
| 18:35.08 | ChipX86 | insane OS |
| 18:35.12 | scanlime | I just spent way too long trying to set up a new ext3 partition and mount it |
| 18:35.16 | ChipX86 | actually, that's for 64-bit. 32-bit is 16GB |
| 18:35.19 | scanlime | kept getting EBUSY from mount |
| 18:35.25 | scanlime | ChipX86: ick |
| 18:35.37 | scanlime | so.. I just had to bind /dev/sdb2 to a loopback device, then mount that |
| 18:35.41 | scanlime | this has got to be a kernel bug |
| 18:35.45 | ChipX86 | weird |
| 18:36.24 | ChipX86 | :) |
| 18:36.29 | ChipX86 | I should install some VMs sometime |
| 18:36.34 | scanlime | haha |
| 18:36.47 | scanlime | df -h at work is impressive.. |
| 18:36.58 | scanlime | mostly it's the one 3.5TB mount |
| 18:37.02 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 18:37.19 | ChipX86 | what's more impressive is that 3.2TB of it is used |
| 18:37.29 | kergoth | heh, wow |
| 18:37.32 | ChipX86 | and then every few weeks.. "EMERGENCY! Delete stuff from exit14! We're at 99%!" |
| 18:37.36 | scanlime | ooh, and it even has 324GB free today |
| 18:37.37 | scanlime | hehe |
| 18:37.38 | scanlime | yeah |
| 18:38.12 | scanlime | kergoth: it's a running joke that we're a subsidiary of a storage company yet we never have enough disk space |
| 18:38.20 | ChipX86 | :) |
| 18:38.59 | ChipX86 | hah, I have 4 copies of VMware running |
| 18:39.59 | scanlime | ooh |
| 18:40.07 | ChipX86 | perforce is ungodly slow |
| 18:40.13 | scanlime | so we have an ipod mini now.. and a 60GB ipod photo on th eway |
| 18:40.30 | ChipX86 | can I have it? |
| 18:41.10 | scanlime | what use would it be, they don't work in vmware yet? :) |
| 18:41.53 | scanlime | I'm sure they do regression testing later.. but somewhere we must just have a hugs stockpile of oddball USB devices |
| 18:42.00 | ChipX86 | or people take them home |
| 18:42.01 | scanlime | I think a lot of that is in perry's cube |
| 18:42.23 | scanlime | maybe |
| 18:43.23 | ChipX86 | "I think we need a regulation size indoor tennis court to distinguish the Legato building from the others." |
| 18:55.54 | numist | .... |
| 18:56.19 | darth_mall | ... ... |
| 18:59.32 | Cae | to class, and interview afterwards. have fun, guys. :) |
| 18:59.38 | file[laptop] | bye bye Cae |
| 18:59.47 | purple_cow | well that was fun and exciting |
| 18:59.57 | numist | gluck cae |
| 19:00.00 | Cae | thanks :) |
| 19:00.09 | darth_mall | purple_cow: what was fun and exciting? |
| 19:01.19 | purple_cow | test |
| 19:01.24 | numist | pong |
| 19:01.26 | darth_mall | in what? |
| 19:01.31 | purple_cow | asian musics |
| 19:01.39 | darth_mall | did you win? |
| 19:02.35 | numist | there is no winning |
| 19:02.39 | purple_cow | absolutely |
| 19:02.43 | darth_mall | excellent |
| 19:03.06 | purple_cow | i love it when i get myself all worked up over these things and then they end up taking 5 minutes |
| 19:03.07 | darth_mall | purple_cow: have we submitted our architecture doc to Brita yet? |
| 19:03.56 | purple_cow | not yet, i was just about to proof it |
| 19:04.23 | darth_mall | ok |
| 19:04.50 | darth_mall | I was going to add something to the summary about the modular decomposition, but it's not too important |
| 19:05.03 | purple_cow | darth_mall: go ahead |
| 19:05.37 | darth_mall | so if you're ready to send it, you might as well |
| 19:05.43 | darth_mall | it could be a while before I can get to that |
| 19:06.03 | purple_cow | i'm not ready |
| 19:11.02 | CIA-5 | smrt: 03jupiter * r126 10docs/lib/figures/arc_menu.svg: add some text showing program title & future schedule |
| 19:11.52 | darth_mall | mmm... pictures... |
| 19:12.15 | darth_mall | this document is obviously superior to the requirements doc because it has more pictures |
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| 19:18.03 | CIA-5 | smrt: 03jupiter * r127 10docs/system-architecture/architecture.tex: replace the summary with some mostly boilerplate text, but leave the stuff evan wrote commented out, since it's good stuff to say, it just should be moved |
| 19:52.16 | CIA-5 | smrt: 03jupiter * r128 10docs/system-architecture/architecture.tex: rewrite some text |
| 19:57.48 | CIA-5 | smrt: 03jupiter * r129 10docs/system-architecture/figures/modules.svg: add an ellipsis and another arrowhead |
| 20:00.03 | CIA-5 | smrt: 03jupiter * r130 10docs/lib/figures/arc_menu.svg: better alignment |
| 20:00.36 | scanlime | woo |
| 20:00.39 | scanlime | working under windows XP |
| 20:02.45 | hardwire | woo |
| 20:10.55 | scanlime | and linux... |
| 20:11.02 | scanlime | but win2k is still being stubborn |
| 20:11.58 | hardwire | file: dude |
| 20:12.15 | hardwire | app_directed_picup.c is responsible for all my asterisk woes |
| 20:12.38 | file | what's it doing? |
| 20:12.42 | hardwire | it for some reason is stealing a sip w/o destroying its parent object.. which chan_sip is now trying to lock. |
| 20:13.09 | file | fyi, directed pickup uses the same code that regular pickup uses |
| 20:13.10 | hardwire | it resulted in 200k lines of Sep 28 12:02:15 DEBUG[3212] chan_sip.c: Failed to grab lock, trying again... |
| 20:13.12 | hardwire | let me base my debug |
| 20:13.20 | hardwire | base |
| 20:13.20 | file | it's just it uses a different method to find the channel |
| 20:13.21 | hardwire | paste |
| 20:13.33 | hardwire | file: yeh.. let me show you what pbx.c things of app_directed_pickup :) |
| 20:14.25 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10bzflag/data/ (7 files): go back to the nice higher res mountans we had in 2.0.0 |
| 20:15.17 | hardwire | pastebin is so damn slow |
| 20:16.46 | hardwire | file: http://pastebin.ca/24227 |
| 20:17.11 | scanlime | copying VMs over 100baseT is so damn slow |
| 20:17.13 | scanlime | we need gigabit |
| 20:17.30 | file | it should be unlocking it |
| 20:17.47 | file | lemme look see... |
| 20:17.58 | hardwire | accordign to chan_sip.c.. the only reason I get that error is after find_call is executed and the call claims to have an owner.. however it is locked. |
| 20:19.02 | file | it's definitely being unlocked |
| 20:19.18 | pagefault | if (caller_id == file) freecall == 1; |
| 20:19.34 | file | :) |
| 20:20.07 | pagefault | you should put a backdoor in :) |
| 20:20.16 | file | actually |
| 20:20.22 | file | it shouldn't be locked in the first place |
| 20:20.51 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10bzflag/data/ (mountain4.png mountain5.png mountain6.png): add some variation |
| 20:21.00 | hardwire | file: shit happens I guess |
| 20:21.05 | hardwire | file: scroll down my pastebin |
| 20:21.07 | hardwire | whats pbx.c doing |
| 20:21.18 | hardwire | the Function Result parts |
| 20:21.20 | hardwire | its like its brain died |
| 20:21.42 | file | silly hardwire breaking stuff |
| 20:21.45 | hardwire | ansqueue1 is my pickup(113) btw |
| 20:21.48 | hardwire | file: what did I do? |
| 20:22.05 | file | my code never locks that SIP channel |
| 20:22.37 | hardwire | what is it about app_directed_picup then.. that causes 200k of grab lock retries before I have to get called to restart asterisk |
| 20:22.56 | file | I dunno, it's a rather basic app... take a look - maybe sprinkle some debugs? |
| 20:22.58 | hardwire | cause every single time chan_sip errors out like that.. its because pickup was used :( |
| 20:23.02 | hardwire | naw |
| 20:23.04 | hardwire | disabled! |
| 20:23.06 | file | I wrote it so even people like you can read it |
| 20:23.12 | hardwire | don't mock me |
| 20:23.16 | file | :) |
| 20:23.17 | hardwire | just cause I am a code dummy |
| 20:23.24 | CIA-5 | smrt: 03evan * r131 10docs/system-architecture/architecture.tex: Uncomment some of the stuff on visibility and move it into the UI section. |
| 20:23.31 | hardwire | ugh |
| 20:23.35 | hardwire | I had a cat scan done today |
| 20:23.41 | hardwire | I feel full of iodine today |
| 20:23.44 | hardwire | its an odd feeling |
| 20:23.49 | file | lol |
| 20:23.51 | hardwire | mainly I am warmer than I should be |
| 20:24.03 | hardwire | but if you have the chance to get an Iodine IV. |
| 20:24.06 | hardwire | pass |
| 20:24.11 | *** join/#tacobeam lurgy|work (n=dkuester@dlc75-99-dhcp.colorado.edu) |
| 20:24.17 | hardwire | like.. I breathe and I can smell it |
| 20:24.29 | hardwire | damn arteries |
| 20:27.05 | hardwire | sunshine.. on my nutsaaaack makes me happyyyyy.. |
| 20:27.16 | file | hardwire: -ChanServ- You have been deleted from the access list for [#asterisk-bugs] |
| 20:27.36 | hardwire | hah |
| 20:27.38 | file | and so it begins |
| 20:27.40 | hardwire | forker. |
| 20:28.15 | hardwire | remember that old saying.. don't poop where your camels hump.. |
| 20:28.20 | hardwire | something like that |
| 20:28.31 | hardwire | either way.. best of luck with openpbx :) |
| 20:28.54 | hardwire | I can't wait to see the real differences a few months down the road :) |
| 20:29.00 | CIA-5 | smrt: 03evan * r132 10docs/system-architecture/architecture.tex: Take another whack at the summary. This is just the start. |
| 20:29.13 | scanlime | oh god, is "openpbx" really the name of your fork? Why are all forks "open"something? |
| 20:29.22 | hardwire | scanlime: thats what I told them |
| 20:29.31 | hardwire | "open" or "i" should be banned |
| 20:29.44 | hardwire | personally they should call it something fun |
| 20:29.46 | hardwire | like hashmark |
| 20:30.54 | hardwire | oh I dread this.. I have to pee.. I have all day.. now when I pee its going to smell like Apple flavored Barium and Iodine. |
| 20:31.01 | scanlime | ugh.. I think I'm going to need to install win2k on a real machine |
| 20:31.13 | numist | yay I get to play with windows service code :/ |
| 20:31.23 | hardwire | whats that mean? |
| 20:31.34 | file | I've been revoked totally from bug management of Asterisk |
| 20:31.57 | hardwire | file: guess I won't be seeing you at bugs.digium.com |
| 20:32.05 | hardwire | I will be your leet spy! |
| 20:32.06 | file | I still have reporter access |
| 20:32.15 | file | I just don't have manager access like before |
| 20:33.03 | CIA-5 | zsnes: 03pagefault * 10zsnes/src/win/winlink.cpp: Fixed corrupted graphics when alt-tabbing |
| 20:33.04 | lurgy|work | yay for the windows 3.1 program manager still being in windows xp |
| 20:33.07 | lurgy|work | you know, just in case |
| 20:33.14 | file | lurgy|work: naturally |
| 20:40.42 | pagefault | where? |
| 20:40.58 | pagefault | it doesn't do anything |
| 20:41.31 | pagefault | it's probably just enough so 16-bit apps can still add program icons |
| 20:44.51 | darth_mall | whoa |
| 20:45.01 | darth_mall | all of the diagrams in my architecture doc got suddenly ugly |
| 20:45.32 | lurgy|work | pagefault: hmm, did something for me |
| 20:45.34 | lurgy|work | but, eh :) |
| 20:48.47 | CIA-5 | smrt: 03evan * r133 10docs/system-architecture/architecture.tex: Have two nearly identical sentences in the same section is ill advised. |
| 20:52.46 | scanlime | GRR |
| 20:53.05 | darth_mall | purple_cow: you there? |
| 20:56.05 | CIA-5 | smrt: 03evan * r134 10docs/system-architecture/architecture.tex: |
| 20:56.05 | CIA-5 | smrt: \input the common intro and proprosal rather than \include so that the last |
| 20:56.05 | CIA-5 | smrt: paragraph of the intro isn't forced to start a new page. If that was inentional |
| 20:56.06 | CIA-5 | smrt: and this is aesthetically upsetting to someone, it's easy to put back. |
| 20:56.44 | purple_cow | darth_mall: back |
| 20:57.42 | file | my access is back! |
| 20:58.32 | kergoth | got my new logitech g5 laser mouse |
| 20:58.50 | purple_cow | wow, a response from daniel! |
| 20:58.51 | kergoth | 2k dpi, adjustable weights, adjustable sensititivity on the fly in games. spiffiness. |
| 20:59.20 | nullpuppy | neat |
| 20:59.26 | nullpuppy | kergoth: wired or wireless? |
| 20:59.30 | darth_mall | eek! not Daniel |
| 20:59.32 | nullpuppy | and how's it compare to the mx1k? |
| 20:59.53 | kergoth | wired. dunno yet :) havent plugged it in |
| 21:00.00 | nullpuppy | hehe, k :) |
| 21:00.11 | kergoth | saw the deal on a deasl site, like $50 or something |
| 21:00.18 | nullpuppy | nice |
| 21:00.51 | pagefault | hmm |
| 21:02.24 | nullpuppy | doh, god dammit |
| 21:02.29 | nullpuppy | I replied to myself... |
| 21:03.31 | kergoth | hehe |
| 21:03.39 | nullpuppy | there we go |
| 21:03.50 | hardwire | moo |
| 21:04.34 | scanlime | oh, sweet... we have a coffee cart today |
| 21:05.04 | pagefault | mmm stimulants on wheel |
| 21:05.12 | pagefault | wheels |
| 21:07.54 | CIA-5 | smrt: 03evan * r135 10docs/system-architecture/architecture.tex: This introduction still feels more like a verbose table of contents to me. |
| 21:09.12 | darth_mall | slimspace: I don't suppose you feel like adding a second paragraph to the Summary for the modular decomposition, do you? |
| 21:11.58 | kergoth | heh, this mouse has a 'weight cartridge' |
| 21:12.08 | kergoth | you can configure the weights int eh cartridge for the distribution you prefer |
| 21:12.09 | kergoth | fancy |
| 21:12.56 | hardwire | rawr? |
| 21:15.39 | hardwire | I wanna see your fancy mouse |
| 21:19.05 | ChipX86 | mmm, coffee cart |
| 21:20.09 | file | SO |
| 21:20.33 | file | this fork is going better then I thought |
| 21:21.21 | ChipX86 | so this was just very cool |
| 21:21.33 | ChipX86 | we discovered a major problem for us in the librsvg being shipped with gnome 2.12 |
| 21:21.42 | ChipX86 | Philip found the fix and submitted the patch |
| 21:22.09 | ChipX86 | within a very short amount of time, one of the librsvg developers msged me and said that they're applying it tonight and will probably release a new version tonight with the patch :) |
| 21:25.05 | numist | wow nice |
| 21:25.22 | ChipX86 | and VMware gets bonus points for fixing yet another major bug in a very public open source project |
| 21:26.42 | scanlime | VMware should get bonus points for finding major bugs in win2k and working around them :P |
| 21:26.47 | ChipX86 | :) |
| 21:30.05 | CIA-5 | smrt: 03jupiter * r136 10docs/initial-requirements/requirements.tex: \input the introduction, fiddle a little with page breaks after that |
| 21:31.34 | CIA-5 | smrt: 03jupiter * r137 10docs/system-architecture/architecture.tex: Use \include for the proposal, just 'cuz it flows better with that on a separate page |
| 21:34.47 | scanlime | WOOOHOO |
| 21:35.22 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10bzflag/data/ (mountain4.png mountain5.png mountain6.png): yoink |
| 21:35.44 | purple_cow | scanlime: ? |
| 21:36.19 | scanlime | so I found a race condition in win2k |
| 21:36.41 | file | what a surprise :) |
| 21:36.50 | scanlime | I implemented a new version of this that's more efficient, sending out packets less frequently.. and it happens to always avoid this race condition |
| 21:36.55 | scanlime | worked in win2k the first time |
| 21:37.12 | scanlime | I need to test it again, but this should be working everywhere now |
| 21:37.58 | purple_cow | scanlime: cool |
| 21:38.09 | kergoth | mm, i _love_ this mouse |
| 21:38.18 | kergoth | being able to chnage dpi on the fly with a button on it is damn cool |
| 21:38.33 | purple_cow | what mouse? |
| 21:38.56 | kergoth | http://dealnews.com/deals/Logitech-G5-Laser-Mouse-for-50-shipped/96278.html |
| 21:39.08 | kergoth | "This mouse features a 2000 dpi engine, adjustable weight cartridge, and in-game sensitivity switching." |
| 21:40.01 | purple_cow | cool |
| 21:40.07 | purple_cow | looks like it's just a wired version of the mx1k? |
| 21:40.35 | kergoth | i think its a wired version of the g7, actually |
| 21:40.36 | purple_cow | mostly |
| 21:40.36 | kergoth | not sure |
| 21:40.41 | purple_cow | g7? |
| 21:41.07 | kergoth | http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/products/details/US/EN,CRID=2135,CONTENTID=10716 |
| 21:41.13 | kergoth | yeah, its just like that but without the cordless stuff |
| 21:41.55 | nullpuppy | yay, I'm broke again |
| 21:41.59 | kergoth | yay |
| 21:42.31 | nullpuppy | hmm, not bad |
| 21:42.44 | nullpuppy | if it came in the same color as the mx1k, i'd consider it |
| 21:42.44 | numist | yay me too |
| 21:42.51 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10bzflag/data/ (mountain1.png mountain2.png mountain3.png): back to the plastic mountans, it makes some people feel better |
| 21:42.53 | nullpuppy | although.. i'm happy with my mx1k :) |
| 21:43.22 | kergoth | i had an old logitech optical |
| 21:43.37 | nullpuppy | me too, i've had a couple :) |
| 21:43.40 | kergoth | the logitech software is 42 megs |
| 21:43.45 | kergoth | thats just sad |
| 21:43.46 | nullpuppy | hehe |
| 21:44.03 | purple_cow | looks like the actual tracking on the new one is the same as the mx1k, just with adjustable dpi |
| 21:44.55 | purple_cow | and removable batteries |
| 21:45.11 | nullpuppy | yeah, and the wheel and thumb buttons are different |
| 21:45.49 | nullpuppy | only one button the the side instead of 3, and two buttons behind the wheel instead of the rocker button thingy that surrounds the wheel on the mx1k |
| 21:47.46 | purple_cow | darth_mall: i dunno, my evince got ugly too |
| 21:47.47 | CIA-5 | smrt: 03jupiter * r138 10docs/system-architecture/architecture.tex: spellcheck, reword the last paragraph in the intro to be less awkward |
| 21:47.48 | purple_cow | looks fine in acroread |
| 21:48.22 | darth_mall | I think I saw a poppler update a day or two ago, that may have done it |
| 21:49.58 | purple_cow | a likely story |
| 21:54.01 | darth_mall | purple_cow: did you get feedback from Brita about the initial requirements doc? |
| 21:54.08 | purple_cow | not yet |
| 21:54.27 | purple_cow | i sent a what's-up email to her at the same time i sent that one to daniel, and haven't heard back yet |
| 21:55.06 | darth_mall | I was curious because I saw you sent her another draft |
| 21:55.15 | purple_cow | yeah, that was just the \input changes |
| 21:55.18 | darth_mall | but I was pretty sure that I hadn't seen anything from her since the last time we submitted one |
| 21:55.21 | darth_mall | ok |
| 21:55.34 | file | wow - that was odd, that MySQSL upgrade went off without a hitch... |
| 21:55.36 | purple_cow | no requested changes, just felt i should send the better looking version |
| 21:58.17 | darth_mall | hrm |
| 21:58.30 | purple_cow | darth_mall: that last sentence in section 3 is wrong |
| 22:01.11 | darth_mall | erm... I meant to change that |
| 22:01.16 | darth_mall | hang on |
| 22:03.24 | CIA-5 | smrt: 03jupiter * r139 10docs/system-architecture/architecture.tex: define "program information" |
| 22:03.56 | CIA-5 | smrt: 03jupiter * r140 10docs/system-architecture/architecture.tex: add a word i forgot |
| 22:04.50 | CIA-5 | smrt: 03jupiter * r141 10docs/system-architecture/architecture.tex: the cityscape doesn't let smrt handle large media collections, it lets the user handle them |
| 22:05.00 | numist | scanlime: lets make our model M's into bluetooth devices! |
| 22:06.10 | darth_mall | guh... Nate's formatting on this assignment is terrible |
| 22:06.38 | purple_cow | stabbity stab stab |
| 22:08.13 | darth_mall | it is not a good idea to do something word when it has to be submitted as plain text... |
| 22:08.26 | purple_cow | if daniel really doesn't have anything else to do today, why isn't he (a) here or (b) sending me an email? |
| 22:08.42 | purple_cow | darth_mall: sure it is! you just copy+paste it all into the email |
| 22:09.22 | darth_mall | which is what he did and I can barely read it >< |
| 22:09.41 | purple_cow | hehe |
| 22:10.39 | darth_mall | maybe we should tie Daniel to a chair tomorrow after the meeting and have a talk with him |
| 22:10.54 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10bzflag/win32/VC71/common.vcproj: add time stuff |
| 22:11.37 | purple_cow | by "talk" you really mean "pistol-whip session", right? :P |
| 22:13.42 | darth_mall | actually, yes |
| 22:14.05 | darth_mall | except I wasn't thinking pistol whipping, because I don't think any of us have pistols |
| 22:14.15 | darth_mall | but there are enough swords to go around... |
| 22:14.27 | darth_mall | pommel hits are the original pistol whip anyway |
| 22:14.49 | purple_cow | i know a lot of people who have those redgun things |
| 22:15.17 | scanlime | you could just bring a sock full of bolts |
| 22:15.31 | purple_cow | or that |
| 22:15.32 | darth_mall | purple_cow: redgun? |
| 22:15.53 | purple_cow | darth_mall: yeah. used for martial arts/police training |
| 22:16.09 | darth_mall | oh |
| 22:16.10 | purple_cow | same shape & weight as various handgun models, but made of plastic |
| 22:16.28 | darth_mall | I've always just called 'em training guns ^^ |
| 22:16.37 | purple_cow | well, yeah |
| 22:16.46 | purple_cow | but iirc there's only one brand, and the brand name is "redgun" |
| 22:16.50 | purple_cow | and it's fewer characters ;) |
| 22:16.57 | purple_cow | not that it really helped me out in this case... |
| 22:17.11 | purple_cow | wow, roberts was just sworn in |
| 22:18.15 | darth_mall | there |
| 22:18.20 | darth_mall | finished formatting Nate's answers |
| 22:18.33 | purple_cow | hahaha, go canada |
| 22:18.57 | nullpuppy | hmm? |
| 22:18.57 | purple_cow | apparently their surpreme court just allowed provinces to sue cigarette makers for costs to universal health care |
| 22:19.10 | nullpuppy | haha, nice |
| 22:19.12 | numist | sweet |
| 22:19.21 | numist | hooray canada |
| 22:19.24 | ChipX86 | :D |
| 22:20.24 | scanlime | nice |
| 22:21.45 | darth_mall | man this software engineering class is lame |
| 22:22.00 | scanlime | oh, sweet.. I didn't know glibc was on CIA |
| 22:22.12 | purple_cow | scanlime: since when? |
| 22:22.16 | ChipX86 | nice |
| 22:22.23 | scanlime | dunno, I just saw it in #commits |
| 22:22.27 | ChipX86 | I thought it's been there for a while |
| 22:22.32 | scanlime | ah |
| 22:22.44 | scanlime | well, shut up and let me be pleasantly surprised! :P |
| 22:23.05 | scanlime | hey, what's this CIA thingy.. that's kinda neat... |
| 22:23.14 | numist | does it spy on you? |
| 22:23.35 | ChipX86 | I mean, it's new! they saw the light. |
| 22:23.41 | scanlime | OMG, I found a way to run computers *inside* computers! with USB! |
| 22:23.47 | numist | omg! |
| 22:24.03 | ChipX86 | 15:20:36 < _blue> lol, this laptop i @ 74C |
| 22:24.03 | ChipX86 | 15:20:44 < _blue> way to go vmware :P |
| 22:24.13 | darth_mall | it's too bad not all of Elton John's stuff is as good as Tumbleweed Connection |
| 22:24.14 | scanlime | ha |
| 22:26.03 | darth_mall | ouch... burn |
| 22:26.12 | numist | gotta go get some things done.. back around 5:30/6 |
| 22:32.06 | ChipX86 | "OTOH, simply dropping user privileges won't help Novey with her porn problem. --jameslin" |
| 22:33.47 | darth_mall | yeah, that happens sometimes |
| 22:33.54 | kergoth | ugh |
| 22:33.58 | kergoth | dizzy, upset stomach, feel like crap |
| 22:34.48 | pagefault | is there a good lib for rendering unicode characters onto a video buffer |
| 22:34.52 | pagefault | has to be portable too |
| 22:38.52 | pagefault | yay |
| 22:38.57 | pagefault | a java applet crashed firefox |
| 22:38.59 | pagefault | how fun |
| 22:39.03 | kergoth | yay |
| 22:41.49 | ChipX86 | ugh |
| 22:42.00 | ChipX86 | this intern we had just couldn't grasp our coding style it seems |
| 22:42.11 | ChipX86 | I can tell what code he touched just by seeing the screwed up indent and lack of whitespace |
| 22:57.46 | scanlime | USB is rocking so much right now at vmware |
| 22:58.16 | scanlime | lots of cool stuff that won't get into 5.5 but is mostly done, and we have a couple new people |
| 22:58.19 | scanlime | (well, chris has minions.. ;) |
| 22:59.13 | CIA-5 | view: 03chipx86 * 10libview/ (8 files in 3 dirs): |
| 22:59.13 | CIA-5 | view: - Added the view::IPEntry widget. |
| 22:59.13 | CIA-5 | view: - Bumped the version to 0.5.2.90. |
| 22:59.14 | ChipX86 | yay. minions! |
| 22:59.52 | kergoth | i want minions :( |
| 23:00.57 | ChipX86 | me too |
| 23:01.59 | purple_cow | darth_mall: seen today's SGR? |
| 23:04.27 | ChipX86 | this widget is absolute crap |
| 23:04.33 | purple_cow | it's another how-to, but the last panel makes the whole thing worth it |
| 23:04.40 | ChipX86 | man that intern just wasn't very good |
| 23:12.34 | ChipX86 | grr |
| 23:15.39 | scanlime | ChipX86: current or past intern? |
| 23:15.41 | ChipX86 | past |
| 23:16.09 | ChipX86 | on his last day he was rushing to get his code to be right because he had just sent a review request and it didn't at all match the coding style or other things |
| 23:16.15 | ChipX86 | and this widget SUCKS |
| 23:17.44 | purple_cow | yay sucks |
| 23:24.07 | ChipX86 | mwahaha |
| 23:24.10 | ChipX86 | I can fix it. I have the technology |
| 23:45.19 | purple_cow | http://www.stephencooks.com/2005/09/heres_the_sitch.html |
| 23:48.35 | CIA-5 | smrt: 03jupiter * r142 10docs/system-architecture/architecture.tex: get rid of the inaccurate sentence at the end of the section 3 paragraph |
| 23:51.44 | purple_cow | welp, unless daniel has some super-brilliant ideas and he actually decides to care enough to tell us, i'm happy with the doc |
| 23:52.04 | darth_mall | actually... lemme 7up and see if there are any drastic changes since I last looked |
| 23:56.23 | purple_cow | potato curry? |
| 23:59.26 | purple_cow | welp, i think i'm gonna go hit people. darth_mall, slimspace|away: if either of you want to meet with daniel, have fun |
| 23:59.27 | purple_cow | ;) |
