| 00:00.46 | zak | BWAH! |
| 00:01.38 | zak | purple_cow: what exactly do you define as bhajis? |
| 00:02.16 | zak | purple_cow: where did you find vietnamese in boulder, and do they have pho? |
| 00:02.18 | zak | I LVOE PHO |
| 00:02.24 | zak | s/lvoe/love |
| 00:02.28 | purple_cow | zak: at chez thuy |
| 00:02.38 | zak | do they have pho? |
| 00:02.42 | purple_cow | of course |
| 00:02.50 | darth_mall | guh |
| 00:02.58 | darth_mall | why is it so freaking hard to find the senior project website |
| 00:03.55 | zak | purple_cow: wait!!! |
| 00:04.04 | zak | purple_cow: what exactly do you define as bhajis? |
| 00:16.30 | CIA-5 | smrt: 03evan * r107 10docs/system-architecture/architecture.tex: Just a small start on the different interface types we're using. |
| 00:17.58 | darth_mall | yay! music's almost done |
| 00:33.43 | zak | j |
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| 00:49.44 | scanlime | mm, Massive Attack |
| 00:49.51 | scanlime | ooh, it compiled |
| 00:50.17 | file[laptop] | ooh flaming death |
| 00:51.59 | scanlime | heh. I can hear a little chirpy noise every time the rio has to spin up its disk to buffer more music |
| 00:52.57 | numist | I heard something about Rio going out of business... |
| 00:52.59 | numist | hearsay? |
| 00:53.27 | scanlime | I think that's true |
| 00:53.34 | scanlime | I certainly wouldn't be surprised |
| 00:54.42 | scanlime | hmm, it got late |
| 00:54.59 | numist | :( |
| 00:55.02 | numist | yes, it does that |
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| 00:57.01 | pagefault | bah |
| 00:59.24 | pagefault | hmm |
| 00:59.33 | pagefault | did you know that catnip is used as a seditive in people |
| 00:59.39 | pagefault | funny it does the exact opposite for cats |
| 00:59.49 | numist | pagefault: what are you doing next friday? |
| 01:00.03 | pagefault | nothing |
| 01:00.05 | pagefault | it's my day off |
| 01:00.10 | numist | sweet |
| 01:00.17 | numist | got wheels? I wont have a way to get around |
| 01:00.27 | numist | oh wait.. you're in downtown... |
| 01:00.28 | numist | ew |
| 01:00.31 | pagefault | nope :( |
| 01:00.36 | pagefault | well not downtown |
| 01:00.41 | numist | Ill be in oakville |
| 01:01.06 | pagefault | ah thats like the other side of town :P |
| 01:01.19 | numist | where are you? |
| 01:02.05 | pagefault | in markham |
| 01:02.50 | numist | yeah, other side of the wrong town |
| 01:03.29 | kergoth | pagefault: http://kergoth.com/mediawiki/index.php/Code/Lua/WOWChunkedTableTraversal .. hehe |
| 01:04.09 | pagefault | wow that is sexy |
| 01:04.11 | numist | oh well.. christmas |
| 01:04.21 | pagefault | yeah |
| 01:04.32 | pagefault | gas is crazy expensive here too |
| 01:04.36 | pagefault | so even if I got a car |
| 01:04.41 | pagefault | I would go broke just driving out there |
| 01:04.52 | numist | hehe |
| 01:05.06 | numist | yeah, if I were to drive to toronto at this point, it would be in the states until I hit buffalo :P |
| 01:05.16 | pagefault | and that was like 80 cents a liter |
| 01:05.20 | pagefault | now it's like $1.05 |
| 01:05.26 | numist | yeah |
| 01:05.27 | file[tau] | you should have told me, I would have paid you :P |
| 01:06.08 | file[tau] | then again, I do give you a UML for free sometimes |
| 01:06.25 | scanlime | boo UML :P |
| 01:06.27 | pagefault | hehe |
| 01:06.38 | file[tau] | scanlime: I wanna try Xen |
| 01:06.45 | pagefault | uh oh |
| 01:06.47 | pagefault | better run |
| 01:06.53 | scanlime | it's probably way better than linode for virtual hosting |
| 01:06.58 | scanlime | er, than UML |
| 01:07.06 | scanlime | I'm looking forward to linode's switch to xen |
| 01:07.10 | pagefault | well I don't really do anything intensive on it |
| 01:07.14 | pagefault | so UML is working fine for me |
| 01:07.31 | scanlime | reliability with UML seems to suck also |
| 01:07.35 | scanlime | it's not just performance |
| 01:07.40 | pagefault | I haven't had any problems |
| 01:07.59 | pagefault | file is a good host |
| 01:07.59 | pagefault | :P |
| 01:08.10 | file[tau] | haha |
| 01:08.37 | pagefault | I wonder if it's safe to convert it to breezy |
| 01:08.41 | pagefault | probably not yet |
| 01:09.26 | pagefault | I can just see bugzilla not working after doing that |
| 01:09.34 | pagefault | after I spent like 3 hours getting it going |
| 01:13.30 | file[tau] | argh this other person I've got on UML on the other box is really getting out of contrl |
| 01:13.31 | file[tau] | er control |
| 01:13.32 | file[tau] | 17694 root 16 0 3848 2484 2484 R 75.8 0.5 25168:27 linux |
| 01:13.32 | file[tau] | 17692 root 16 0 485m 292m 292m S 21.6 59.1 8295:12 linux |
| 01:15.22 | pagefault | ooh |
| 01:15.33 | pagefault | I wonder what he's doing |
| 01:15.43 | file[tau] | streaming radio |
| 01:15.52 | pagefault | interesting |
| 01:15.56 | pagefault | I wonder if he plays anything good |
| 01:16.14 | file[tau] | http://www.freematrix.us/ ;) |
| 01:16.21 | kergoth | http://www.blizzard.com/jobopp/ui-designer.shtml |
| 01:16.27 | pagefault | I mainly use my UML for bugzilla for zsnes |
| 01:16.35 | pagefault | and playing WoW through the firewall at university |
| 01:16.37 | pagefault | :) |
| 01:17.11 | numist | why is there a starcraft image on that job posting? |
| 01:17.53 | pagefault | is he streaming off neutrino? |
| 01:17.57 | zak | file[tau]: and what are we supposed to be listening too? |
| 01:18.16 | file[tau] | it streams off of the box in San Jose |
| 01:18.20 | numist | hmm... starcraft ghost... |
| 01:18.23 | file[tau] | zak: music? |
| 01:18.30 | pagefault | crrazzzy |
| 01:18.45 | numist | yet another first person shooter... bah |
| 01:18.46 | zak | yea, but as music is not automatically playing, assume I am stupid and tell me where to click. |
| 01:19.11 | file[tau] | the radio portion, and then you look on the left |
| 01:19.15 | file[tau] | where it says Listen Live Now |
| 01:19.34 | pagefault | indie music to the max |
| 01:19.40 | pagefault | ugh I hate friends |
| 01:19.46 | pagefault | worst show on t |
| 01:19.47 | pagefault | tv |
| 01:19.49 | zak | oo. it's like music |
| 01:20.07 | zak | so this is what they call indie? |
| 01:20.15 | pagefault | yeah I guess so |
| 01:20.19 | zak | hmmm |
| 01:20.23 | pagefault | anything the RIAA doesn't get any money from is pretty much |
| 01:20.49 | pagefault | ah yes classic family guy |
| 01:25.47 | numist | Id like to see starcraft remade with new graphics and happy things that make use of my computer, but without any other changes... |
| 01:28.05 | scanlime | yes |
| 01:28.11 | pagefault | I am sure blizzard will release an entirely new game |
| 01:28.20 | scanlime | but that's no fun |
| 01:28.38 | scanlime | this needs to be like the super mario remake that Nintendo did for the SNES |
| 01:28.39 | pagefault | what would be cool is if they released the source |
| 01:28.42 | scanlime | same game, new graphics and sound |
| 01:28.49 | scanlime | pagefault: I don't want to see their crappy source |
| 01:28.56 | pagefault | we all do |
| 01:29.11 | ChipX86 | yeah screw the source. If you want a game engine like that, there are plenty available |
| 01:29.24 | pagefault | well I meant more for the fact of porting it |
| 01:29.26 | ChipX86 | a new starcraft that is like the original but nicer looking (like WC3 vs WC2) that'd be awesome |
| 01:29.27 | pagefault | or making changes to it |
| 01:29.37 | ChipX86 | s/that'd be/would be/ |
| 01:29.49 | pagefault | there are lots of SC stuff in WoW to keep people happy for now |
| 01:30.16 | pagefault | and when you fight the alliance it's like fighting the zerg |
| 01:31.01 | pagefault | aww |
| 01:31.17 | pagefault | I still think everyone here needs to get it |
| 01:31.20 | pagefault | get addicted |
| 01:31.27 | ChipX86 | yay WoW |
| 01:31.28 | numist | ghost really seems like its banking on the success of SC to sell |
| 01:31.35 | pagefault | maybe |
| 01:31.36 | ChipX86 | might play that when I'm more able to |
| 01:31.39 | numist | "See the world of StarCraft on a personal level" |
| 01:31.42 | pagefault | but I won't judge the game until i've played it |
| 01:31.50 | numist | "Take control of familiar StarCraft vehicles" |
| 01:32.07 | pagefault | I remember when I heard about Diablo I was like |
| 01:32.08 | numist | Id rather not get addicted.. Ill check out ghost, but my expectations are low |
| 01:32.09 | pagefault | what the hell is blizzard thinking |
| 01:32.14 | numist | plus, I read on the site that its a console game |
| 01:32.35 | kergoth | yay WoW |
| 01:32.35 | numist | I dont own any modern consoles |
| 01:32.41 | pagefault | I still think Diablo was a deal with the mouse makers to sell more mimce |
| 01:32.54 | kergoth | hah |
| 01:32.58 | ChipX86 | kergoth: have you tried fishing in AB? |
| 01:33.06 | ChipX86 | I'm curious as to if anything special could be in there |
| 01:33.11 | pagefault | err mice |
| 01:33.11 | pagefault | heh |
| 01:33.12 | kergoth | nope |
| 01:33.16 | pagefault | is the fishing thing on yet? |
| 01:33.21 | ChipX86 | pagefault: there was one |
| 01:33.29 | ChipX86 | I wasn't here for it :( |
| 01:33.30 | ChipX86 | fishing 200 now |
| 01:33.38 | kergoth | i need to work on my fishing |
| 01:33.41 | kergoth | havent fished in quite a while |
| 01:33.45 | kergoth | need to go farm some more deviates too |
| 01:33.46 | pagefault | bah |
| 01:33.48 | numist | its going to be bad if the same build is used for all consoles.. ps2 cripples development :/ |
| 01:33.50 | kergoth | get a stockpile of delights |
| 01:35.16 | pagefault | well |
| 01:35.19 | pagefault | I want to transfer |
| 01:35.23 | pagefault | when are they going to do that |
| 01:36.11 | kergoth | our guild lost some people.. one went to school, the other was using that person's computer, and a couple others left to start guilds with friends and stuff. i wanted a small cozy guild, but this is ridiculous |
| 01:36.13 | kergoth | heh |
| 01:37.19 | pagefault | since when does school matter? |
| 01:37.54 | ChipX86 | fucking laptop |
| 01:37.57 | kergoth | hehe |
| 01:37.58 | kergoth | :( |
| 01:37.59 | file[tau] | school? I no go school and I perfect speak english |
| 01:38.24 | ChipX86 | kergoth: who left to start other guilds? |
| 01:38.44 | kergoth | ChipX86: a couple of those guys that never talked.. the high level ones |
| 01:38.49 | ChipX86 | bah |
| 01:38.51 | kergoth | cant remember their names, since they never talked |
| 01:39.09 | kergoth | i'd be happy if it was basically just tacobeam folks, velgar, rhee, and a couple others, really |
| 01:39.15 | ChipX86 | same |
| 01:39.20 | ChipX86 | I want velgar bcak |
| 01:40.45 | file[laptop] | how are you doing sleep-wise? |
| 01:40.52 | ChipX86 | can't sleep |
| 01:40.54 | ChipX86 | but exhausted |
| 01:41.04 | file[laptop] | quite a conundrum |
| 01:41.08 | kergoth | could take something for it, or have a drink or something |
| 01:41.22 | ChipX86 | I can't take medicine to make me fall asleep, I don't think |
| 01:41.44 | file[laptop] | kergoth: your answer to everything is have a drink |
| 01:41.49 | kergoth | not really, no |
| 01:41.54 | kergoth | but it could be |
| 01:41.55 | pagefault | you could get some herbal stuff |
| 01:41.55 | file[laptop] | "oh no, there appears to be a bullet wound in my arm" "have a drink!" |
| 01:42.07 | pagefault | kergoth was a medic in the 19th century |
| 01:42.11 | kergoth | shhh |
| 01:43.02 | pagefault | I just picked up some stuff today that really helps you sleep |
| 01:43.21 | scanlime | ChipX86: do you know where I'd find the UI's code for pulling USB device info out of vmdb? |
| 01:43.48 | ChipX86 | yep |
| 01:43.56 | ChipX86 | well |
| 01:43.59 | ChipX86 | yes |
| 01:44.08 | ChipX86 | but what area are you looking for in particular that makes use of it? |
| 01:44.12 | pagefault | whats the best way of emulating a USB keyboard through a USB connection |
| 01:44.27 | pagefault | I want to control my cable box with my PC through it's USB port |
| 01:44.36 | pagefault | but it only recognizes a USB keyboard |
| 01:45.12 | scanlime | ChipX86: ports still have numbers, but they're assigned arbitrarily. I want it pulling a port name out of VMDB rather than using "Port %d" in the menu. |
| 01:45.23 | ChipX86 | ah |
| 01:45.37 | ChipX86 | hmm |
| 01:45.42 | ChipX86 | Regis just did this |
| 01:45.44 | scanlime | is that something I should just tell the UI folks to worry about once this change goes in? |
| 01:45.46 | ChipX86 | should be in apps/lib/cui |
| 01:45.50 | scanlime | k |
| 01:45.52 | ChipX86 | grep around in there |
| 01:46.01 | scanlime | thanks |
| 01:46.01 | ChipX86 | and yeah, probably. File a bug |
| 01:46.07 | ChipX86 | I imagine it'll go to me |
| 01:46.16 | scanlime | well, if it's simple enough I can do it myself, it will make testing easier |
| 01:46.18 | ChipX86 | since I wrote the newer device code in there |
| 01:46.24 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 01:46.27 | ChipX86 | should be easy |
| 01:46.27 | scanlime | won't have to go into the vmdb editor to see if my ports are getting assigned right |
| 01:48.34 | ChipX86 | now here's the thing |
| 01:48.40 | ChipX86 | the Windows guys are very, very much behind us |
| 01:48.49 | ChipX86 | so they're not using the common code for that stuff yet |
| 01:48.53 | scanlime | ooh, fun :P |
| 01:49.07 | ChipX86 | which means cui stuff (which is the priority) won't work on Windows yet |
| 01:49.22 | scanlime | well maybe I'll implement it for cui and file a bug for the rest |
| 01:49.27 | ChipX86 | nod |
| 01:49.32 | scanlime | all I really care about at the moment is making it easy to test my backend code |
| 01:49.36 | ChipX86 | I feel bad for them sometimes |
| 01:49.52 | scanlime | yea |
| 01:50.02 | scanlime | I had to poke around in their vmswitch control not long ago |
| 01:50.16 | scanlime | I've never seen so many hardcoded pixel sizes before |
| 01:50.16 | file[laptop] | did your eyes fall out? |
| 01:54.14 | scanlime | yup |
| 01:54.18 | scanlime | that's what we have :P |
| 01:56.12 | ChipX86 | purple_cow: it's really silly |
| 01:56.22 | ChipX86 | I have to coordinate iwth them all the time on consistency things |
| 01:56.34 | ChipX86 | "We need to change the text to this and add an icon. Should be a trivial change." |
| 01:56.54 | ChipX86 | then they complain because of how much code has to change and how they'll have to redo half the dialog and hte pages on the other tabs in the dialog |
| 01:57.08 | ChipX86 | for a string change |
| 01:57.12 | scanlime | hehe |
| 01:57.31 | purple_cow | i'm amazed someone hasn't demanded microsoft write a real layout API |
| 01:57.35 | ChipX86 | and because of that, they get sloppy and resort to ugliness |
| 01:57.51 | ChipX86 | hah |
| 01:58.01 | ChipX86 | nope, just the oh-so-crappy resource files |
| 01:58.17 | scanlime | oh |
| 01:58.18 | scanlime | damint |
| 01:58.26 | scanlime | no wonder my greps haven't been finding the code I need |
| 01:58.31 | scanlime | keep forgetting to grep C++ files |
| 01:58.33 | ChipX86 | heh |
| 01:58.40 | ChipX86 | which is hte majority of cui code |
| 01:58.49 | scanlime | oh, I found the cui bits already |
| 01:58.55 | scanlime | was looking for the code that calls it |
| 01:59.07 | ChipX86 | ah |
| 01:59.08 | scanlime | looks like only lui and vmuiLinux so far :P |
| 01:59.10 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 01:59.19 | ChipX86 | windows is in three dirs |
| 01:59.23 | ChipX86 | with subdirs in each |
| 01:59.27 | ChipX86 | if they even have htat code |
| 02:00.34 | purple_cow | you should port vmware to forth |
| 02:00.37 | purple_cow | it would be great |
| 02:00.43 | scanlime | oh shut up :P |
| 02:01.03 | purple_cow | and then scanlime can write a new gui system for it... |
| 02:01.13 | scanlime | sigh |
| 02:02.08 | ChipX86 | you know, in Kill Bill 2, she's punching through the coffin, but she has this big heavy flashlight with her that would probably work out better than her fists |
| 02:02.30 | kergoth | hehe |
| 02:06.13 | scanlime | guh |
| 02:06.55 | ChipX86 | make sure you CC the review to hosted-ui-group |
| 02:07.00 | scanlime | I will |
| 02:07.06 | scanlime | this isn't going to be ready for a while |
| 02:07.10 | scanlime | it's part of a pretty giant change |
| 02:07.14 | ChipX86 | ok |
| 02:09.39 | scanlime | ooh |
| 02:09.48 | scanlime | the little (Port %d) string in windows is in their resource file :P |
| 02:10.33 | scanlime | oof, I should go home |
| 02:10.51 | scanlime | but damn.. today was really productive |
| 02:11.01 | scanlime | pretty much did the whole USB port rewrite today |
| 02:11.11 | purple_cow | time for loopy? ;) |
| 02:11.17 | scanlime | yeah, probably |
| 02:11.21 | scanlime | after I make this compile |
| 02:11.44 | scanlime | it would rock seeing loopy overlays running on Direct3D apps |
| 02:12.48 | scanlime | I tried to run it today, but my machine here doesn't have direct rendering |
| 02:12.59 | scanlime | it has a crappy old radeon card that crashes X when I turn on DRI |
| 02:13.10 | scanlime | and vmware refuses to do 3D at all if you don't have DRI |
| 02:13.26 | scanlime | even after commenting out the DRI check it didn't like this card :P |
| 02:14.38 | scanlime | mmm, Tosca |
| 02:14.45 | scanlime | gurf |
| 02:18.11 | scanlime | wow |
| 02:18.20 | scanlime | diff between main and my working copy is over 3k lines |
| 02:18.32 | scanlime | yep.. this is going to take about a month to pass code review |
| 02:20.37 | scanlime | yay |
| 02:20.45 | scanlime | my UI has happy USB port names |
| 02:21.46 | ChipX86 | I have a 97 file change :) |
| 02:23.27 | purple_cow | ChipX86: how'd you manage that? |
| 02:28.04 | ChipX86 | converting the UI to use libview |
| 02:30.35 | purple_cow | ahh |
| 02:41.19 | ChipX86 | huray |
| 02:41.28 | ChipX86 | now, after two releases, there's debate about libview conventions |
| 02:41.53 | ChipX86 | do we make it so you #include <libview/foo.hh>, #include <view/foo.hh>.. .hh or .h... |
| 02:42.19 | ChipX86 | people are saying we should ignore .so versioning and just leave it 0.0.0 |
| 02:44.10 | zak | ChipX86: any progress with the IBM super bitches? |
| 02:44.38 | ChipX86 | they told me to fax them the thing that's on their own website and then they'll decide about it |
| 02:45.07 | purple_cow | ChipX86: wow |
| 02:45.33 | ChipX86 | and they said they can't do a tihng about my money, but if I really want to pursue it, I can do that after the laptop is sorted out |
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| 02:49.53 | purple_cow | mmm |
| 02:56.56 | purple_cow | http://www.deviantart.com/view/22480360/ |
| 03:05.16 | ChipX86 | cute |
| 03:05.22 | ChipX86 | I want one |
| 03:08.18 | purple_cow | jwz's post title for that was "I for one welcome our new indescribably cute cephalopod overlords" |
| 03:08.19 | purple_cow | :) |
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| 03:23.37 | scanlime | hmm |
| 03:23.39 | scanlime | I must have a baked potato tonight |
| 03:23.53 | scanlime | purple_cow: dresden dolls concert? |
| 03:24.20 | purple_cow | dresden dolls and devotchka are playing a concert at the fox right after my birthday ^^ |
| 03:24.26 | scanlime | =D |
| 03:33.25 | scanlime | mmm |
| 03:33.54 | file[laptop] | would it involve plasma? |
| 03:34.09 | scanlime | I think it'd involve a chronoton accelerator |
| 03:34.17 | file[laptop] | excellent |
| 03:34.31 | scanlime | lurgy: ah.. apparently alex at spacegrant tried to get a hold of me on AIM about rcpod? |
| 03:34.37 | scanlime | lurgy: said you guys couldn't find rcpod.h |
| 03:34.46 | scanlime | lurgy: did you resolve that already? |
| 03:35.19 | scanlime | lurgy: if not, it's.. uh.. at navi-misc/rcpod/include/rcpod.h |
| 03:36.19 | scanlime | this is going to be tasty though.. picked up some cheese, sour cream, and fresh green onions |
| 03:36.24 | scanlime | mmmm |
| 03:36.26 | scanlime | potatooooo! |
| 03:37.11 | purple_cow | sour cream soup? |
| 03:39.00 | scanlime | hehe |
| 03:39.10 | scanlime | there's a lovely tin-foil-coated potato involved as well |
| 03:39.39 | scanlime | I'm so disappointed... I bought some cheap foil baking pans, and used them for the chicken parmesan and bratwurst and other random stuffs |
| 03:39.59 | scanlime | I left my kitchen messy for a while.. finally got around to cleaning it yesterday, and those three pans had little holes all over them |
| 03:40.12 | file[laptop] | yuck |
| 03:40.15 | scanlime | it was really weird |
| 03:40.19 | scanlime | might have rusted through |
| 03:40.25 | scanlime | although I didn't see any rust |
| 03:40.56 | scanlime | at first I thought something I was cooking in there might have been acidic enough to dissolve the pans eventually |
| 03:41.04 | scanlime | but the same thing happened to all three pans, and I was using them for different things |
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| 03:41.59 | zak | scanlime: dumb question |
| 03:42.00 | scanlime | guh.. I've got about 20 space grant timesheet reminders |
| 03:42.04 | purple_cow | those aren't really meant for long-term use |
| 03:42.07 | zak | LED: long side is cathode? |
| 03:42.07 | scanlime | zak: thanks for sending out that email, looks great :) |
| 03:42.15 | scanlime | purple_cow: yeah, I noticed that :( |
| 03:42.29 | zak | scanlime: aren't they annoying? |
| 03:42.36 | purple_cow | you need to get yourself a pyrex baking dish and a cast-iron skillet ;) |
| 03:42.46 | zak | i sent mine in (after 17 emails) on saturday, and got another 14 on sunday |
| 03:42.48 | scanlime | zak: I can never remember... I always look inside the LED itself and find out which lead is connected to the cup-like widgey that holds the LED chip itself. That one's the cathode |
| 03:42.54 | scanlime | purple_cow: yep |
| 03:43.09 | zak | scanlime: the thingy that looks like a flag? |
| 03:43.13 | scanlime | yep |
| 03:43.16 | purple_cow | you no longer have an excuse for buying cheap kitchen equipment |
| 03:43.16 | scanlime | that's almost always the cathode |
| 03:43.30 | scanlime | the only exceptions I've seen are some really old LEDs that look like they were made in 1940 or so |
| 03:43.33 | scanlime | purple_cow: indeed |
| 03:44.00 | scanlime | I bet I still have those.. they're in a really old package that says "G.E. Solid State Lamp" |
| 03:44.06 | scanlime | I actually found the same ones in an online LED museum |
| 03:44.21 | scanlime | their efficiency is awful :) |
| 03:44.34 | scanlime | you put in about 25ma and get this sickly dim red glow |
| 03:46.14 | purple_cow | hmm |
| 03:46.23 | nullpuppy | holy .. .... |
| 03:46.37 | nullpuppy | i think comcast did somethign to my connection... |
| 03:47.00 | nullpuppy | its almost useless for 2 days.. get home today and run a speed test... 7166/348 |
| 03:47.20 | file[laptop] | well that's a good thing |
| 03:47.35 | nullpuppy | certianly makes me less pissed off at them. |
| 03:47.37 | nullpuppy | damn them! |
| 03:47.37 | nullpuppy | :) |
| 03:48.14 | kergoth | nullpuppy: hah |
| 03:48.39 | nullpuppy | awww, dawn to 6608/355 that time ;) |
| 03:48.47 | nullpuppy | but still, god damn.. awesome |
| 03:49.08 | kergoth | nullpuppy: impressive |
| 03:51.15 | purple_cow | damnit! |
| 03:51.24 | kergoth | :( |
| 03:51.34 | kergoth | i have an hour left on my download of that |
| 03:52.02 | nullpuppy | IFS? |
| 03:52.53 | purple_cow | numist: http://internationalfilmseries.com/ |
| 03:53.06 | numist | ... |
| 03:53.17 | nullpuppy | hehe |
| 03:53.36 | nullpuppy | i love how everyone does that, especially given that l comes before m .... gotta love tab complete ;) |
| 03:54.02 | file[laptop] | nullpuppy: pure sillyness |
| 03:54.06 | nullpuppy | indeed |
| 03:54.21 | numist | and my client works on last message.. clearly you sent the most recent message to the channel |
| 03:54.37 | numist | theres no good reason |
| 03:54.41 | nullpuppy | haha :) |
| 03:54.42 | nullpuppy | yeah |
| 03:54.43 | purple_cow | it wasn't a tab-complete error, it was a brain error |
| 03:54.56 | file[laptop] | blame cosmic rays |
| 03:55.10 | numist | govt mind control beams misfiring again |
| 03:55.42 | *** join/#tacobeam spooklight (n=jamie@adsl-68-127-50-84.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) |
| 03:56.05 | spooklight | ChipX86, you awake? |
| 03:56.46 | spooklight | *poke* |
| 03:57.01 | nullpuppy | oh no! a spooklight! |
| 03:57.08 | spooklight | oh no! where?? |
| 03:57.16 | nullpuppy | right there! /me points |
| 03:57.30 | spooklight | ooh freaky :) |
| 03:57.41 | nullpuppy | hehe :) how are's ya? |
| 03:57.58 | spooklight | nullpuppy, i's good, how are's you? |
| 03:58.13 | nullpuppy | i's good too's |
| 03:58.29 | spooklight | glad to hear it :) |
| 03:58.35 | nullpuppy | :) yup yup |
| 03:58.46 | nullpuppy | i should go get some koolaid. |
| 03:58.48 | file[laptop] | I should go to sleep |
| 03:58.55 | scanlime | pooooooooootaaaaaaaaaaaaaatooooooooooo |
| 03:59.00 | nullpuppy | file[laptop]: thats a bad idea |
| 03:59.07 | nullpuppy | the boogy-man will get you |
| 03:59.23 | file[laptop] | he already got me, but he said he made a mistake and he'll be back Thursday |
| 03:59.32 | nullpuppy | lol |
| 03:59.47 | spooklight | file[laptop], aww rejected by the boogeyman :( |
| 04:00.04 | file[laptop] | quite |
| 04:00.30 | scanlime | nullpuppy: no, I'm cooking a poooooootaaaaaatoooo! |
| 04:00.30 | file[laptop] | but now I shall watch Southpark so that my mind is slightly warped and fried, and then sleep |
| 04:00.35 | file[laptop] | so - goodnight folks! |
| 04:00.38 | kergoth | night |
| 04:00.42 | kergoth | hey spooklight |
| 04:00.48 | spooklight | file[laptop], goodnight |
| 04:00.54 | spooklight | kergoth, hello :) |
| 04:02.04 | nullpuppy | scanlime: oooh, dat's even bedder! |
| 04:02.23 | nullpuppy | gnight file[laptop] |
| 04:02.35 | nullpuppy | but isn't youre mind already slightly warped and fried? :) |
| 04:02.53 | lalo | DevGirl is now in Beijing, sends kisses to everyone who knows her |
| 04:03.13 | scanlime | wow |
| 04:03.16 | nullpuppy | cool, I don't think I know her though |
| 04:03.21 | nullpuppy | no kisses for me :( |
| 04:03.31 | *** topic/#tacobeam by kergoth -> EARMUFFINS:( |
| 04:03.33 | kergoth | er |
| 04:03.35 | kergoth | damnit xchat |
| 04:03.41 | *** topic/#tacobeam by kergoth -> EARMUFFINS |
| 04:03.44 | ChipX86 | wow, DevGirl. Haven't seen her in ages |
| 04:03.51 | ChipX86 | hey spooklight :) |
| 04:03.53 | nullpuppy | oh no! its chip! |
| 04:03.59 | kergoth | ChipX86: have you slept yet? |
| 04:04.00 | spooklight | ChipX86, hi sleepy |
| 04:04.09 | ChipX86 | kergoth: I slept for about 3-4 hours earlier |
| 04:04.12 | kergoth | ah |
| 04:04.18 | kergoth | s/slept/napped/ |
| 04:04.20 | lalo | speciall kisses to gonkulator and scanlime and darth_mall |
| 04:04.26 | scanlime | :) |
| 04:09.48 | nullpuppy | i assume you're refering to the jet li movie? |
| 04:10.01 | nullpuppy | or is this something entirely different? |
| 04:11.45 | purple_cow | yeah |
| 04:11.54 | nullpuppy | cool. good movie if you haven't seen it yet |
| 04:11.55 | purple_cow | the one i meant to go see at IFS |
| 04:13.48 | kergoth | woot, finished downloading The Longest Yard |
| 04:13.52 | kergoth | and unleashed is just about done |
| 04:15.41 | kergoth | bleh |
| 04:22.50 | zak | oh sad |
| 04:23.23 | zak | beijing? |
| 04:23.25 | zak | why? |
| 04:23.29 | zak | and neat |
| 04:24.01 | purple_cow | if we're doing something with cheese, someone else gets to help make it this time |
| 04:24.15 | lalo | zak: we're living here now |
| 04:25.00 | ChipX86 | zak: btw, I liked that poem you linked to the other day |
| 04:25.32 | spooklight | it was sad :( |
| 04:25.33 | ChipX86 | there should definitely be more poems/stories with girls falling in love with princesses |
| 04:25.41 | spooklight | i agree |
| 04:25.51 | spooklight | and boys falling in love with princes :) |
| 04:25.55 | spooklight | teeheehee |
| 04:26.29 | scanlime | remember that sex we were planning to have, ever again? |
| 04:27.55 | purple_cow | grumble |
| 04:28.10 | scanlime | :( |
| 04:28.51 | zak | all better |
| 04:30.27 | zak | scanlime: you live on a spaceship, dear. |
| 04:30.28 | scanlime | well, my days of not taking you seriously are certainly coming to a middle |
| 04:30.34 | zak | hehehe |
| 04:30.44 | scanlime | =D |
| 04:30.53 | zak | woooo!@@@@@@ |
| 04:30.56 | zak | friday! |
| 04:31.06 | zak | spooklight: yea, i really liked it |
| 04:31.12 | zak | you should read some of her other stuff |
| 04:31.16 | zak | she is really good |
| 04:31.30 | scanlime | woooo friday indeed! |
| 04:31.45 | purple_cow | you know what friday is?! |
| 04:31.50 | purple_cow | it's the day before october, that's what! |
| 04:31.54 | ChipX86 | purple_cow: tool time! |
| 04:31.55 | ChipX86 | oh |
| 04:32.00 | purple_cow | hahaha |
| 04:32.16 | zak | http://www.livejournal.com/users/auburn_crimson/50391.html#cutid1 |
| 04:32.22 | zak | this one is really cool |
| 04:39.06 | darth_mall | he'd better not ruin a potentially shitty movie |
| 04:39.49 | darth_mall | well, I'd say there's a lot of potential for Doom to be terrible already |
| 04:40.16 | darth_mall | but most of that I'm sure I could tolerate seeing as how much I loved that game as a kid |
| 04:40.28 | darth_mall | but if the Rock ruins that for me, I will be slightly miffed ^^ |
| 04:40.44 | ChipX86 | we weren't allowed to play it for a while. At first we could, then my stepdad heard that it takes place in Hell (he's very Christian) so we had it taken away from us |
| 04:40.53 | kergoth | hah |
| 04:41.19 | kergoth | it doesnt take place in hell. it takes place on mars and/or the martian moon phobos, depending on whether its doom 1/2 |
| 04:41.54 | kergoth | i had my little brother playing it when he was 3 and i was 13 or something :P |
| 04:43.18 | purple_cow | owwwwwww i'm sore |
| 04:43.40 | darth_mall | good, that means it's working ^^ |
| 04:43.56 | purple_cow | what's working? |
| 04:44.04 | darth_mall | whatever it is that's making you sore |
| 04:44.11 | numist | ... |
| 04:44.15 | purple_cow | ah, yes |
| 04:44.19 | numist | its working on me too, if you wouldnt mind turning it off |
| 04:44.24 | purple_cow | i got a pair of small hand weights to train speed with |
| 04:44.25 | darth_mall | numist: no! |
| 04:44.28 | purple_cow | and ouch |
| 04:44.28 | darth_mall | it builds character |
| 04:44.41 | scanlime | garr |
| 04:44.41 | numist | if I had any more character Id be animated, now turn it off |
| 04:44.51 | scanlime | that potato's been cooking almost 1.5 hours, and it isn't done |
| 04:45.05 | purple_cow | potatoes are like that |
| 04:45.05 | darth_mall | scanlime: are you cooking it with a zippo? |
| 04:45.07 | purple_cow | yams even more so |
| 04:45.13 | kergoth | hah |
| 04:45.20 | scanlime | darth_mall: oven, oddly enough :P |
| 04:45.26 | darth_mall | you're baking it? |
| 04:45.27 | scanlime | yeah... |
| 04:45.29 | scanlime | yes |
| 04:45.34 | darth_mall | what's the oven temp? |
| 04:45.36 | scanlime | 350 |
| 04:45.40 | darth_mall | and it's not done? |
| 04:45.43 | scanlime | nod |
| 04:45.58 | scanlime | I cut it partially open, it's still pretty hard in the middle |
| 04:46.07 | kergoth | its possessed. |
| 04:46.11 | darth_mall | did you wrap it in foil? |
| 04:46.17 | scanlime | yes |
| 04:46.24 | purple_cow | is the shiny side of the foil in or out |
| 04:46.26 | purple_cow | ? |
| 04:46.31 | scanlime | hmm.. dunno |
| 04:46.56 | darth_mall | purple_cow: that shouldn't make that much a difference, or I've accidentally put the foil on the correct way every time |
| 04:47.20 | purple_cow | darth_mall: it contributes |
| 04:47.26 | darth_mall | yeah, but an hour and a half? |
| 04:47.35 | darth_mall | the potato should cook faster at a lower altitude |
| 04:47.42 | purple_cow | err, what? |
| 04:47.47 | purple_cow | it's an oven, not boiling water :P |
| 04:47.54 | darth_mall | potatos are quite full of water |
| 04:48.04 | darth_mall | which is why they take longer to cook at higher altitudes |
| 04:48.06 | scanlime | 'twas shiny side out... its fixed now |
| 04:48.07 | purple_cow | yeah, but that water isn't boiling :P |
| 04:48.16 | scanlime | heh |
| 04:48.22 | darth_mall | all I know is that potatoes are easier to cook at lower altitudes =P |
| 04:48.44 | darth_mall | s/easier/faster/ |
| 04:48.46 | purple_cow | other probable contributions include a miscalibrated or uneven oven and potato size |
| 04:49.00 | scanlime | it's a big potato |
| 04:49.11 | purple_cow | and potato variety |
| 04:49.23 | purple_cow | since some are a lot more dense than others |
| 04:50.17 | purple_cow | yams and sweet potatoes can take 2 hours or more... |
| 04:51.15 | darth_mall | the only thing I do differently than scanlime did is I don't cut the potatoes... I think scanlime's potato is a gremlin in disguise |
| 04:51.36 | darth_mall | ^^ |
| 04:52.26 | scanlime | thermocouple says it's at least 380 degrees |
| 04:52.39 | scanlime | though I think it's more sensitive to radiated heat than most things |
| 04:53.22 | darth_mall | quick! go collect as many potatoes as you can and stuff them into your oven! |
| 04:53.42 | darth_mall | and one potato as a control |
| 04:53.46 | scanlime | I have a couple more in the fridge.. |
| 04:53.48 | darth_mall | we'll cook the control potato with a zippo |
| 04:53.53 | scanlime | hehe |
| 04:54.10 | scanlime | I can cook the second control potato on wasabi's CPU |
| 04:54.42 | scanlime | then the experiment will be a taste-test to see whether people prefer lighter fluid or dust on their potatoes |
| 04:58.07 | purple_cow | oogabooga |
| 04:58.14 | purple_cow | # |
| 04:58.14 | purple_cow | Each group member should individually provide the project manager with the following: |
| 04:58.14 | purple_cow | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:58.15 | purple_cow | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:58.15 | purple_cow | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:58.15 | purple_cow | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:58.17 | purple_cow | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:58.19 | purple_cow | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:58.24 | purple_cow | a printout of the code? |
| 04:58.26 | scanlime | yup |
| 04:58.30 | scanlime | ain't it grand? |
| 04:59.01 | hardwire | no |
| 04:59.03 | purple_cow | it may be prudent for me to invest in a printer sooner than i had anticipated :P |
| 04:59.03 | hardwire | err |
| 04:59.04 | hardwire | sleep |
| 04:59.23 | scanlime | purple_cow: yup. that's what senior projects are all about |
| 04:59.38 | scanlime | purple_cow: and go ahead and order a pile of $3 ink cartridges in anticipation of your final documentation printout :P |
| 05:05.12 | *** join/#tacobeam DevGirl (n=mai@61.149.94.232) |
| 05:51.37 | scanlime | mmmm |
| 05:51.38 | scanlime | potato |
| 05:52.00 | purple_cow | heh, finally? |
| 05:52.04 | scanlime | yep |
| 05:52.53 | scanlime | it's not terribly soft at this point.. but it's cooked enough and I'm impatient :) |
| 05:53.21 | ChipX86 | ooh monk |
| 05:53.48 | ChipX86 | i wonder how i'm still alive |
| 05:55.47 | ChipX86 | hah |
| 05:56.05 | ChipX86 | reading old osnews posts about xen (came up during a search for libview and vmware) |
| 05:56.53 | ChipX86 | people are claiming that it's just as good as VMware because it runs Windows XP just fine, just that htey arne't allowed to distribute the modified Windows XP, but ignore that because it runs it and hterefore is a threat to VMware |
| 05:57.45 | scanlime | wonder why they can't distribute a patcher utility that modifies windows XP to work with xen |
| 05:58.51 | *** part/#tacobeam JeffM2501 (n=jeffm@pdpc/supporter/sustaining/JeffM2501) |
| 06:00.49 | scanlime | mmm |
| 06:00.53 | scanlime | that dinner was worth the wait |
| 06:19.52 | lurgy | ugh |
| 06:20.01 | lurgy | too much drinky drinky for a monday night, bad idea |
| 06:20.35 | scanlime | hehe |
| 06:20.48 | scanlime | how'd you manage that? |
| 06:21.53 | lurgy | i was running a study session for the ECEN3400 people because of my fellows responsibilities i got for accepting free food |
| 06:22.06 | lurgy | and then they said "let's go get a beer" |
| 06:22.27 | scanlime | ha |
| 06:22.34 | lurgy | and then we were at some place on the hill and the special for the evening was triple wells for $5 |
| 06:22.41 | lurgy | which isn't really that good when you think about it |
| 06:22.44 | lurgy | but i owed tim |
| 06:22.47 | lurgy | so, blah |
| 06:22.49 | scanlime | :) |
| 06:22.53 | scanlime | poor lurgy |
| 06:23.07 | scanlime | you sound almost like a college student or something... |
| 06:23.11 | lurgy | 1 guiness and 1 awful lot of whiskey later.. blah |
| 06:23.12 | lurgy | heh |
| 06:23.18 | lurgy | yeah, shameful |
| 06:23.35 | lurgy | and some navy kid joined us for our game of pool |
| 06:23.37 | scanlime | oh |
| 06:23.38 | scanlime | guinness |
| 06:24.06 | lurgy | :) |
| 06:24.08 | lurgy | yay guiness |
| 06:24.19 | scanlime | gui? |
| 06:24.20 | lurgy | and so now |
| 06:24.21 | scanlime | yep |
| 06:24.28 | lurgy | lalala. |
| 06:24.37 | lurgy | realizing i have a timesheet due tomorrow morning |
| 06:24.40 | lurgy | heh |
| 06:24.43 | lurgy | no thanks sir |
| 06:24.55 | scanlime | timesheets.. I don't miss them |
| 06:25.04 | scanlime | though I still get those stupid reminder mails |
| 06:25.11 | lurgy | hehe |
| 06:25.15 | lurgy | go spam filter? |
| 06:25.15 | scanlime | they haven't taken me off any of the mailing lists for spacegrant, including that one |
| 06:25.20 | scanlime | yeah |
| 06:25.28 | scanlime | it's in my ever-growing list of gmail filters |
| 06:26.17 | lurgy | hehe |
| 06:28.03 | lurgy | lala |
| 06:28.20 | lurgy | this is bad |
| 06:28.25 | lurgy | i should go to sleep |
| 06:28.36 | lurgy | (and now, this is about to go back to "O Fortuna") |
| 06:28.37 | lurgy | bam |
| 06:28.38 | scanlime | g'night :P |
| 06:28.40 | lurgy | there it goes |
| 06:28.51 | lurgy | heh, not gonna happen though, gotta finish the inebriated draft of this timesheet |
| 06:28.55 | scanlime | ValueError: Image dimensions must be power of 2 (dimensions are 0 x 0) |
| 06:29.17 | lurgy | it's not me, i swear =p |
| 06:29.20 | scanlime | I wonder if 0x0 images are valid for OpenGL... |
| 06:29.28 | scanlime | ALL YOUR FAULT! |
| 06:29.33 | scanlime | or tacos |
| 06:29.36 | scanlime | mmm.. that was a tasty potato |
| 06:29.44 | scanlime | and the green onion was perfect |
| 06:29.53 | lurgy | whee |
| 06:41.36 | kergoth | unleashed was pretty good |
| 06:41.45 | ChipX86 | did you watch Sin City? |
| 06:42.20 | kergoth | yeah, that movie was fucking sweet :) |
| 06:42.30 | ChipX86 | :) |
| 06:42.41 | ChipX86 | I was going to buy it, but they're going to release an extended version in a couple months |
| 06:42.45 | kergoth | ah nice |
| 06:50.10 | purple_cow | scanlime: 0x0 isn't a power of 2 ;) |
| 06:51.55 | scanlime | I know. It just got me curious whether opengl would accept it |
| 06:52.14 | scanlime | hmm |
| 06:52.51 | scanlime | makes me want to try doing a blur fragment program rather than just precomputing it.. that way the blur level could change dynamically as the icon hovers above your video :) |
| 06:56.01 | nullpuppy | "this is the physics building" "that'd explain all the gravity" |
| 06:56.13 | kergoth | hehe |
| 07:07.36 | kergoth | http://kergoth.com/mediawiki/index.php/Code/Lua/WOWChunkedTableTraversal |
| 07:08.22 | nullpuppy | gah, connection has returned to ubersuckiness, i guess i'll just head to bed |
| 07:32.09 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03micah * r9014 10loopy/ (data/images/ data/images/icon_ps2.png soya-icon.py): Add a demo that plops an icon in the middle of the screen and applies a drop shadow using Numeric. This is kinda cheesy, I'd like to do shadows dynamically on the GPU to achieve a 'floating' effect for the OSD elements. |
| 07:41.54 | purple_cow | scanlime: wicked |
| 07:45.48 | scanlime | hehe |
| 07:46.25 | scanlime | purple_cow: that one is a really disgustingly slow iterative 3x3 gaussian... |
| 07:46.51 | scanlime | which also has edge artifacts since I can't easily make the texture just a little larger without padding to the next power of two |
| 07:47.47 | scanlime | hmm |
| 07:49.59 | purple_cow | scanlime: GL_ARB_texture_rectangle ? |
| 07:50.08 | purple_cow | ooh, google's logo today is good |
| 07:50.26 | rioter | mmm |
| 07:50.29 | rioter | reminds me that im hungry |
| 07:50.32 | scanlime | purple_cow: yeah, but this other idea is more fun |
| 07:52.22 | kergoth | you cant just find cake. it isnt naturally occuring |
| 07:53.21 | scanlime | it is on google.com |
| 07:53.38 | kergoth | ooh, it looks chocolate |
| 07:53.42 | kergoth | :) |
| 08:09.04 | scanlime | take me sir. take me hard. |
| 08:09.21 | scanlime | now somethin' about that is just downright unsettlin'... |
| 08:09.52 | scanlime | hmmm |
| 08:10.01 | scanlime | mebbe I should take this as an excuse to play with pbuffers |
| 08:10.29 | scanlime | that would let me implement a separable gaussian blur, which is more like O(n+m) rather than O(n*m) |
| 08:10.51 | scanlime | but not tonight.. I should plan on sleeping a bit |
| 08:15.06 | purple_cow | pff |
| 08:16.47 | scanlime | besides convenience, what's the advantage to pbuffer rendering rather than rendering to the backbuffer then copying to texture? are pbuffers actually rendering directly to texture memory? |
| 08:17.37 | purple_cow | doesn't copying to texture involve a readback? |
| 08:18.04 | scanlime | yeah. so pbuffers can render to texture without readback? |
| 08:18.17 | purple_cow | yeah |
| 08:18.27 | scanlime | spiffy |
| 08:18.31 | purple_cow | yep :) |
| 08:18.45 | purple_cow | not quite as spiffy as frame buffer objects, but nice |
| 08:19.04 | purple_cow | and supported on my hardware ;) |
| 08:19.17 | scanlime | :) |
| 08:19.21 | scanlime | prolly mine too... |
| 08:19.34 | scanlime | if I hadn't just shut wasabi off I'd check glxinfo |
| 08:19.43 | purple_cow | aren't you on a geforce sixtysomethingcrazy? |
| 08:19.51 | scanlime | yes :) |
| 08:20.14 | scanlime | I guess I'm more concerned about drivers than hardware |
| 08:20.26 | purple_cow | the nvidia drivers implement everything :P |
| 08:20.32 | scanlime | hooray :P |
| 08:25.46 | scanlime | hrmph |
| 08:26.13 | scanlime | so pbuffers are just a glx feature that let you render into a chunk of system memory. There must still be a lot of cruft involved in copying that back into texture memory |
| 08:26.50 | scanlime | loopy's going to need to track some glx nonsense for these to be useful. blah. |
| 08:27.10 | purple_cow | err, i thought pbuffers were in vram? |
| 08:27.34 | scanlime | I'm having trouble finding any real documentation on them, but from the bits of code I've seen glx just gives you a pointer |
| 08:29.02 | scanlime | http://www.libsdl.org/pipermail/sdl/2003-August/055603.html |
| 08:34.24 | scanlime | yeah.. loopy's going to need to track glx display and context, and I'm probably going to have to provide the pbuffer bindings themselves in loopy |
| 08:34.33 | scanlime | guess that's what I'm doing tomorrow night |
| 08:36.30 | purple_cow | kind of crummy that there's no render_texture in glx yet :P |
| 08:36.41 | purple_cow | whereby "kind of" i mean "exceedingly" |
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| 14:49.15 | kergoth | bleh |
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| 16:13.39 | scanlime | hehe |
| 16:13.43 | numist | great.. my machine cant find my samba server... |
| 16:14.22 | scanlime | for once :) |
| 16:14.31 | numist | :) |
| 16:14.49 | lurgy | hehe |
| 16:14.56 | lurgy | femtofarads |
| 16:15.21 | lurgy | fF |
| 16:15.38 | lurgy | today's circuits homework brought to you by the letter f |
| 16:15.43 | numist | thats not a lot of capacitance |
| 16:17.06 | lurgy | no sirree |
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| 16:18.40 | numist | gah upgrades |
| 16:24.37 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10bzflag/package/win32/nsis/BZFlag.nsi: rc5 |
| 16:48.58 | Cae | erm...okay, who likes mips assembly? |
| 16:49.37 | numist | will I get lynched if I say that I do? |
| 16:50.00 | Cae | I need to do matrix multiplication of a two-dimensional array. |
| 16:50.01 | kergoth | i like arm assembly.. never done mips |
| 16:50.18 | numist | Ive done a lot more sparc than mips.. but I have the reference squirrelled away somewhere |
| 16:51.00 | Cae | in theory we're supposed to do it by declaring what's on each row of each array, and then having something like U: .word U0, U1, U2 |
| 16:51.24 | Cae | where U0, U1, and U2 are the declared rows with stuff like .word 0, 1, 2, etc. |
| 16:51.36 | nullpuppy | hrm, any of you know anyone that sells music via cdbaby? |
| 16:51.53 | Cae | but how do I get from being able to select V1 from V, and actually getting to the declared V1? |
| 16:53.09 | numist | unsure |
| 16:53.18 | Cae | because I can get the address in V that corresponds to the word in that, that contains the name of V0, V1, V2. but how do I get from that word to it.. |
| 16:53.52 | Cae | we can do it for function names, using jr |
| 16:54.34 | Cae | but I have no idea how to get it to just go to the declaration, or whatever. and there has to be a way to do so. unless it automatically links them? |
| 16:54.48 | Cae | but then that wouldn't make any sense either. |
| 16:55.23 | numist | as simple as that is, its out of my scope |
| 16:55.28 | numist | :( sorry |
| 16:55.33 | Cae | hehe |
| 16:58.32 | darth_mall | bah |
| 16:58.46 | numist | smbd* |
| 16:58.48 | Cae | hmm. |
| 16:58.56 | kergoth | hmmm... food is sounding awfully good |
| 16:59.03 | Cae | kergoth: shush |
| 16:59.05 | numist | rice crispies? |
| 16:59.11 | Cae | you'll remind me that I'm hungry |
| 16:59.12 | numist | my food doesnt make sound |
| 16:59.44 | slimspace | lurgy: do you know what Crook's sister's name is? |
| 17:00.10 | lurgy | slimspace: lauren i think |
| 17:00.14 | slimspace | ok |
| 17:02.40 | darth_mall | just call her Ms. Crooks |
| 17:02.48 | slimspace | :) |
| 17:03.09 | slimspace | darth_mall: so did that meeting with Daniel ever actually happen yesterday? |
| 17:04.10 | darth_mall | don't know |
| 17:04.16 | darth_mall | I couldn't have made it at that time anyway |
| 17:04.19 | darth_mall | so you'd have to ask purple_cow |
| 17:04.21 | darth_mall | but I don't think so |
| 17:04.22 | slimspace | ah |
| 17:04.32 | slimspace | scanlime: poke |
| 17:05.40 | numist | yay I have TIM again |
| 17:07.02 | purple_cow | no, it didn't |
| 17:07.07 | purple_cow | i haven't heard back from him |
| 17:07.13 | slimspace | ah |
| 17:07.28 | darth_mall | he's not dead, though, I saw him in class yesterday |
| 17:08.25 | numist | :o |
| 17:08.40 | numist | wow, mine costs $45 for cable here |
| 17:08.48 | nullpuppy | same here |
| 17:08.56 | numist | 5mbit too |
| 17:08.57 | slimspace | well, that's for 2 months of 7-Mbit dsl |
| 17:09.01 | numist | ah hah |
| 17:09.07 | slimspace | plus activation, yadda yadda |
| 17:09.16 | numist | quit yer complaining then, ya pansy |
| 17:09.21 | slimspace | :P |
| 17:09.31 | numist | how did I cut myself? |
| 17:09.32 | slimspace | it's still more than I'm used to |
| 17:09.45 | nullpuppy | depending on whether they're recapping or not.. |
| 17:10.57 | purple_cow | i just can't understand a CS major who doesn't respond to email :P |
| 17:11.36 | numist | ok, your not talking about me |
| 17:12.04 | darth_mall | I hate to say it, but so far Daniel strikes me as more of a business major in disguise |
| 17:15.10 | purple_cow | if he doesn't i think we'll just have to leave him in the dust :P |
| 17:15.46 | slimspace | nod |
| 17:15.55 | scanlime | mmm |
| 17:16.07 | darth_mall | what music player is everyone using these days, just out of curiosity |
| 17:16.13 | purple_cow | mpg123 :P |
| 17:16.16 | slimspace | beep |
| 17:16.26 | numist | winamp |
| 17:16.33 | scanlime | rio karma and mplayer :P |
| 17:16.34 | numist | (under wine, when appropriate) |
| 17:17.24 | purple_cow | numist: weirdo |
| 17:17.33 | numist | it streams better than xmms and beep! |
| 17:18.00 | numist | much slower, unless theyve made serious changes |
| 17:18.08 | numist | scanlime: :P |
| 17:18.16 | numist | you would, too |
| 17:18.36 | scanlime | nah, I haven't done that in a while |
| 17:18.53 | scanlime | actually I think wget was too slow.. |
| 17:19.27 | scanlime | I ended up with something like (echo GET foo HTTP/1.1... | nc bar 80 | madplay) |
| 17:19.48 | numist | :) |
| 17:23.05 | Cae | hm. apparently.. |
| 17:24.02 | Cae | I get the address of which word in U, then I load the word in that address into $t0 (or whatever), then I load the address of what's in $t0 into something else, like $t6. and then $t6 contains what I want, whichever row |
| 17:24.22 | Cae | or it contains the address of U0, or whatever. weird. |
| 17:24.45 | Cae | that really seems a little fucked up |
| 17:24.50 | Cae | but the registers do not lie.. |
| 17:25.06 | numist | they do not |
| 17:38.55 | CIA-5 | smrt: 03evan * r108 10docs/system-architecture/architecture.tex: |
| 17:38.55 | CIA-5 | smrt: Some fairly sparse descriptions of the three interface types we decided on last |
| 17:38.55 | CIA-5 | smrt: Sunday. |
| 17:52.05 | kergoth`food | <laserite> hi!! i'm doing NAT with a linux router, which is behind a Comtrend router with NAT disabled, my arp caché has 4000 thousand lines, all of them public IPs with the Comtrend MAC, any solutions? |
| 17:52.06 | kergoth`food | <Gandalf_> is the Comtrend router proxyarping the whole internet? |
| 17:53.40 | scanlime | caché :) |
| 17:54.55 | Cae | caché indeed |
| 17:56.32 | CIA-5 | smrt: 03evan * r109 10docs/system-architecture/architecture.tex: |
| 17:56.32 | CIA-5 | smrt: Start a little blurb about the UI in general, partially just to avoid nested |
| 17:56.32 | CIA-5 | smrt: headings. |
| 18:08.24 | scanlime | "Reviewed by: nobody |
| 18:08.27 | scanlime | Testing done: none" |
| 18:08.34 | scanlime | bleh |
| 18:12.49 | ChipX86 | yay for screwed up sleep schedules |
| 18:12.57 | scanlime | morning sunshine |
| 18:13.08 | ChipX86 | :P |
| 18:13.32 | Cae | yay for "Memory address out of bounds" |
| 18:14.15 | scanlime | yay for -EPROTO |
| 18:14.50 | kergoth`food | ah ha, thats how i can make my vimrc happy on non-utf-8 systems |
| 18:14.55 | kergoth`food | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:14.55 | kergoth`food | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:14.55 | kergoth`food | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:16.37 | kergoth`food | ah, s/termencoding/encoding/, since termencoding isnt always set |
| 18:17.45 | ChipX86 | hmm, firefly marathon |
| 18:17.45 | scanlime | ooh |
| 18:17.46 | Cae | hm. memory...xspim will not install...bleh.. |
| 18:17.58 | Cae | that's going to make stepping through this a royal pain in the ass |
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| 18:18.04 | pagefault | uuubuuuntuuu |
| 18:18.12 | Cae | hehe |
| 18:18.16 | Cae | I think pagefault's in love |
| 18:18.22 | scanlime | ubanto! |
| 18:18.26 | ChipX86 | woah |
| 18:18.40 | pagefault | hehe |
| 18:26.34 | scanlime | hmm |
| 18:26.40 | scanlime | you learn a new word every day |
| 18:26.45 | scanlime | Coverageinstrumentationrequest |
| 18:27.03 | scanlime | apparently someone has a patch for that :P |
| 18:27.14 | prpplague | scanlime: interesting |
| 18:27.28 | prpplague | anyone have uclinux experience? |
| 18:27.33 | scanlime | heh |
| 18:27.36 | scanlime | long long ago... |
| 18:27.53 | scanlime | why is anyone still using uclinux? aren't MMUs cheap these days? |
| 18:28.06 | prpplague | scanlime: tons of arm7tdmi being used |
| 18:28.26 | scanlime | oh, right.. silly silicon vendors making really popular chips without MMUs... |
| 18:28.30 | darth_mall | heh |
| 18:28.32 | darth_mall | listening to all the kids in this class not understand python is funny |
| 18:28.48 | prpplague | scanlime: yea |
| 18:28.49 | scanlime | gr |
| 18:30.45 | prpplague | scanlime: i have a silly question, i already have a arm tool chain on my box, not the one suggested for uclinux, if i'm just doing some arm asm , there shouldn't be any reason i can't use any arm toolchain right? |
| 18:31.41 | prpplague | scanlime: please note the device isn't running uclinux or linux, i'm just doing some arm code |
| 18:32.41 | darth_mall | guh |
| 18:32.50 | darth_mall | retards complaining about how python sucks because they don't understand it |
| 18:32.55 | prpplague | hehe |
| 18:33.08 | darth_mall | at least Ashvin can make coherent arguments about why he doesn't like it |
| 18:33.13 | prpplague | darth_mall: i love those kinds of students |
| 18:33.51 | scanlime | prpplague: so you don't have library compatibility issues.. but there are still different variants of the arm instruction set |
| 18:34.04 | scanlime | prpplague: big endian vs little endian, different versions, arm vs thumb... |
| 18:34.05 | darth_mall | I need to learn to not let it bother me |
| 18:34.31 | scanlime | prpplague: it's worth a try, but it helps to know what you're dealing with |
| 18:34.44 | Cae | damnit. why are you being bad.. |
| 18:34.45 | prpplague | scanlime: right, thats whats i ment about arm code (as opposed to thumb code) |
| 18:35.00 | scanlime | uhhuh, but the other arguments still apply |
| 18:35.02 | scanlime | mostly endianness |
| 18:35.05 | prpplague | scanlime: yea, just a standard arm7tdmi chip |
| 18:35.19 | prpplague | scanlime: agreed |
| 18:35.51 | prpplague | i really need some compilier education |
| 18:36.04 | scanlime | yes... |
| 18:36.15 | scanlime | preferably not from me :) |
| 18:36.28 | prpplague | scanlime: hehe, understood |
| 18:36.39 | scanlime | uh |
| 18:36.43 | scanlime | college won't do squat |
| 18:36.56 | scanlime | stop feeling sorry for yourself and go read the internet |
| 18:37.04 | scanlime | that will teach you everything you need to know about embedded systems |
| 18:37.12 | scanlime | school will do you absolutely zero good on that front |
| 18:37.30 | prpplague | scanlime: i know considerable amount for embedded, its basic things like compiliers that are my week point |
| 18:37.31 | scanlime | *if* you ever see an embedded system in school it will be some archaic textbook crapola 8051 board |
| 18:37.50 | scanlime | so go read about toolchains |
| 18:38.03 | scanlime | just don't for one second think you would have been better off learning that stuff in school |
| 18:38.12 | scanlime | it just doesn't happen |
| 18:38.17 | scanlime | if you learn it at all, it's on your own |
| 18:38.18 | prpplague | hehe |
| 18:38.41 | scanlime | if you happen to be in school when you learn it, it's still going to be due entirely to your own effort and motivation |
| 18:38.53 | scanlime | so you need to actually *have* that effort and motivation |
| 18:38.56 | scanlime | and look up stuff on your own |
| 18:39.12 | scanlime | isntead of just assuming you would have known it if you'd done ___ or been in ___ class |
| 18:39.18 | scanlime | or just bothering random people on IRC about it |
| 18:39.23 | scanlime | </rant> |
| 18:39.28 | prpplague | hehe |
| 18:39.54 | prpplague | didn't mean to incure your wrath, was just curious about the toolchain issue |
| 18:40.25 | scanlime | I dont' know shit about arm7. What's an arm7, some kind of bagel toaster? Go look stuff up! there are plenty of online documents on building toolchains |
| 18:40.41 | prpplague | since rick berman can't come up with anything new, maybe i should send it the suggestion for the next trek movie "wrath of scanlime" |
| 18:41.04 | scanlime | if you want wrath, ask kergoth`food about this shit |
| 18:41.12 | prpplague | scanlime: hehe, ha, sorry, i thought you had worked with arm stuff |
| 18:41.23 | prpplague | scanlime: hehe i occasional ask him |
| 18:41.23 | scanlime | he'll tell you to RTFInterWeb also |
| 18:41.52 | prpplague | that he does that he does |
| 18:41.57 | scanlime | arm stuff != arm7 |
| 18:42.12 | Cae | *mutter* |
| 18:42.15 | scanlime | I've worked with the XScale a bit, no ARM7.. they're quite different beasts |
| 18:42.25 | Cae | I have a memory address out of bounds and I have no idea why |
| 18:42.41 | scanlime | Cae: welcome to the amazing world of computer science! |
| 18:42.48 | prpplague | isn't xscale armv4 ? |
| 18:42.49 | Cae | :P |
| 18:43.15 | prpplague | sorry v5 |
| 18:44.34 | Cae | nice..infinite loop..what counter did I ignore.. |
| 18:44.38 | kergoth`food | ARM7 != armv7. armv is the naming convention for the instruction sets. ARM is the naming convention for specific cores. |
| 18:44.52 | prpplague | kergoth: i know that |
| 18:45.07 | prpplague | kergoth: arm7tdmi is a armv4 instruction set |
| 18:45.19 | pagefault | 6502 for the win |
| 18:50.38 | kergoth | ugh, food coma |
| 18:51.08 | ChipX86 | Firefly is good |
| 18:51.17 | ChipX86 | looks like they're starting with episode one |
| 18:51.20 | prpplague | kergoth: anything good? i'm dying for a good burger, just don't get any down here |
| 18:51.54 | pagefault | yarr! |
| 18:51.56 | scanlime | ChipX86: see, you need to come with me to boulder and watch serenity |
| 18:52.11 | ChipX86 | scanlime: I'm going back to Chico this weekend and taking Jamie back with me |
| 18:52.11 | ChipX86 | ohhh |
| 18:52.14 | ChipX86 | you get to meet her |
| 18:52.44 | scanlime | I do? |
| 18:53.00 | ChipX86 | yeah but you'll be here next week, right? |
| 18:53.08 | scanlime | i'll be back late monday night |
| 18:53.18 | ChipX86 | I'm coming back from Chico on Wednesday, and she's coming with me |
| 18:53.22 | scanlime | ah |
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| 18:53.35 | ChipX86 | then on Saturday we're heading to Boston and won't be back until Wendesday of the following week |
| 18:53.44 | scanlime | cool |
| 18:54.40 | darth_mall | hehe |
| 18:54.50 | darth_mall | Martin's explaining Python's namespacing ^^ |
| 18:54.58 | scanlime | which class is this? |
| 18:55.07 | darth_mall | AI |
| 18:55.16 | scanlime | ohhh, that Martin |
| 18:55.18 | scanlime | cool |
| 18:55.40 | darth_mall | all these kids who hate python have waited until the last minute to do the assignment and learn python |
| 18:55.44 | ChipX86 | wonderful toilet and sink system they hvae on serenity |
| 18:55.47 | darth_mall | I like Martin |
| 18:56.01 | scanlime | yeah, he's cool |
| 18:56.12 | darth_mall | he cracks me up |
| 18:57.30 | ChipX86 | the captain is cool |
| 18:57.52 | scanlime | all the characters in firefly are cool =) |
| 18:57.56 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 18:58.02 | ChipX86 | I still have to get to know the chars |
| 18:58.02 | *** part/#tacobeam prpplague (n=billybob@72.22.136.211) |
| 18:58.02 | darth_mall | if I could be anyone on the show, I'd be Wash |
| 18:58.08 | scanlime | :) |
| 18:58.09 | ChipX86 | Wash is who? |
| 18:58.12 | scanlime | the pilot |
| 18:58.16 | ChipX86 | ah |
| 18:58.18 | ChipX86 | with the dinosaurs |
| 18:58.20 | scanlime | yup |
| 18:58.23 | scanlime | ^^ |
| 18:58.27 | darth_mall | ahhh... curse your sudden, but inevitable betrayal! |
| 18:58.38 | kergoth | yay wash |
| 18:58.40 | ChipX86 | haha |
| 18:58.44 | ChipX86 | I loved that |
| 18:58.52 | nullpuppy | yeah, Wash rules |
| 18:58.58 | ChipX86 | :grep is just so sexy |
| 18:58.58 | nullpuppy | can't wait to see the damn movie |
| 18:59.02 | darth_mall | ok. Everyone not talking about sex can stay, everyone please leave. |
| 18:59.22 | darth_mall | erm... s/everyone please/everyone else please/ |
| 18:59.42 | nullpuppy | hehe |
| 19:00.24 | ChipX86 | eep, I'm going to have two movies to see this next week |
| 19:00.46 | nullpuppy | whats the other? |
| 19:01.01 | nullpuppy | not sure what else is coming out |
| 19:01.21 | pagefault | wallace |
| 19:01.28 | nullpuppy | ah, right |
| 19:01.35 | darth_mall | Corpse Bride isn't out 'til October, is it? |
| 19:01.38 | nullpuppy | that should be good too |
| 19:01.45 | pagefault | it's playing here |
| 19:01.45 | ChipX86 | nooooooo |
| 19:01.45 | nullpuppy | I thought it was already out.. i don't remember now.. hmm |
| 19:01.50 | ChipX86 | Kalie doesn't die, does she? |
| 19:01.52 | kergoth | sweet, http://max.kellermann.name/projects/ferm/ looks really nice |
| 19:01.58 | nullpuppy | I hope not |
| 19:02.03 | darth_mall | ChipX86: she dies in every episode, it's like Aeon Flux |
| 19:02.07 | ChipX86 | heh |
| 19:02.09 | kergoth | http://max.kellermann.name/download/ferm/examples/workstation.ferm |
| 19:02.12 | pagefault | haven't seen it yet |
| 19:02.35 | nullpuppy | i stumbled upon the OST track list.. saw something about Book's final something.. kinda worried me... |
| 19:02.37 | ChipX86 | she's cute and has a neat personality. I don't want her to die |
| 19:02.38 | kergoth | expressing firewalling policies independent from iptables command syntax |
| 19:02.38 | kergoth | was planning coding that.. yay for not having to |
| 19:03.11 | nullpuppy | ChipX86: yeah |
| 19:03.12 | darth_mall | ChipX86: she was in X-Files |
| 19:03.20 | Cae | back later |
| 19:03.47 | ChipX86 | darth_mall: ahhh, that's where I knew her from |
| 19:04.02 | darth_mall | she played the little girl in the episode with the photographer who kidnapped school girls |
| 19:04.35 | darth_mall | she was 11 or 12, I think, when she did it |
| 19:06.10 | ChipX86 | oh |
| 19:06.16 | ChipX86 | then it was something else I'm thinking of |
| 19:06.24 | ChipX86 | hmm, I need a good keybinding for :cn |
| 19:06.42 | scanlime | how about ESC M-c M-% n? |
| 19:06.48 | darth_mall | hehe |
| 19:06.52 | ChipX86 | perfect! |
| 19:07.29 | nullpuppy | yeah, corpse bride game out on the 16th |
| 19:07.37 | nullpuppy | according to fandango at least.. |
| 19:07.41 | numist | every movie's got a game now... |
| 19:07.59 | kergoth | hmm, i've never used that :cn and :make stuff |
| 19:08.05 | ChipX86 | kergoth: works with :grep |
| 19:08.07 | ChipX86 | and other things |
| 19:08.20 | ChipX86 | like :make |
| 19:08.38 | kergoth | neat |
| 19:08.38 | kergoth | i just vi blah :wq make vi blah, rinse, repeat |
| 19:08.38 | kergoth | which is inefficient |
| 19:08.53 | scanlime | heh |
| 19:09.00 | ChipX86 | same |
| 19:09.03 | ChipX86 | but it's stlil useful |
| 19:09.35 | darth_mall | ooh screen |
| 19:09.38 | darth_mall | that's like that thing |
| 19:09.45 | numist | screen rocks |
| 19:09.47 | ChipX86 | firefly until 7:00 |
| 19:09.58 | kergoth | i love my screenrc. happy statusbar |
| 19:09.59 | scanlime | :) |
| 19:10.01 | scanlime | working from home today? |
| 19:10.03 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 19:10.06 | kergoth | 2005/09/27 14:10 0.38 0.28 0.20 0$* bash 1$ kernel 2$ didiwiki 3-$ bash |
| 19:10.06 | scanlime | nice |
| 19:10.11 | ChipX86 | might sleep a coupl eof times |
| 19:10.13 | kergoth | i hate you people |
| 19:10.24 | nullpuppy | :( |
| 19:10.26 | numist | I worked from home all last week plus yesterday |
| 19:10.47 | numist | the amount of work I got done was slightly dubious though... |
| 19:11.37 | ChipX86 | this is going to speed this up so uch |
| 19:11.39 | ChipX86 | much |
| 19:12.25 | ChipX86 | kergoth: I have a few other good vim macros and mapping if you're interested |
| 19:13.00 | numist | yay for vmware beta |
| 19:13.08 | numist | Im using it to play all my old abandonware games |
| 19:13.12 | ChipX86 | :) |
| 19:13.15 | ChipX86 | isn't it sexy? |
| 19:13.23 | numist | sim city, sim tower, sim city 2000, the incredible machine, etc |
| 19:13.23 | scanlime | just wait for RC2, that will be even cooler :) |
| 19:13.27 | numist | sweet |
| 19:13.38 | ChipX86 | massively |
| 19:13.38 | numist | if you guys make me re-create my vm's Ill be really peeved though... |
| 19:13.39 | kergoth | ChipX86: yeah, definately. my vimrc could use some work |
| 19:13.48 | ChipX86 | numist: nope |
| 19:13.54 | numist | yay for using entire disks as vms though.. that was leet |
| 19:13.58 | ChipX86 | this is why I added legacy VM support in 5.0 |
| 19:14.04 | ChipX86 | so that we can preserve VM compatibility across versions |
| 19:14.06 | numist | I might go and grab some of my old hard drives for that purpose |
| 19:14.11 | kergoth | just added map ,dtw :%s/\s\+$//g<C-M> " Delete Trailing Whitespace to it today |
| 19:14.44 | numist | also I'm dabbling in sim city 4... I think I like it |
| 19:14.47 | numist | still not sure |
| 19:15.40 | numist | where can I get an enclosure for a laptop hard drive so I can usb it? |
| 19:15.50 | numist | hrm, and so I can power it... |
| 19:15.53 | numist | might have to build my own |
| 19:15.56 | scanlime | lots of places |
| 19:16.12 | scanlime | they're really common at fry's, or at the same kinds of places we found the usb-ide adaptors |
| 19:16.16 | numist | right |
| 19:16.20 | numist | hrm... |
| 19:16.38 | numist | HDDs are kinda sensitive about their voltages, arent they.. Id need a voltage regulator if I were to do it myself |
| 19:16.53 | scanlime | probably not |
| 19:17.01 | scanlime | laptop disks only need 5V, which is what you get from USB |
| 19:17.13 | scanlime | it's not the cleanest 5V in the world, but the disk probably does its own regulation for anything important |
| 19:17.27 | numist | usb 2.0... my lappy has usb1, which doesnt supply as much amperage |
| 19:17.42 | numist | which is why I think Id need batteries |
| 19:17.44 | scanlime | huh? they increased the current spec in usb2? |
| 19:17.52 | numist | iirc, yes |
| 19:18.09 | numist | my dad worked with burn-test machines during the spec change, I recall that topic coming up |
| 19:18.27 | numist | then again, I could be mistaken pretty easily |
| 19:19.06 | scanlime | anyway, does the disk really take more than 500mA? |
| 19:19.13 | scanlime | that's the max in USB 1.1 |
| 19:19.33 | numist | hrm.. Id have to check.. doubt it though |
| 19:19.50 | numist | I dont have the lappy disk on hand |
| 19:19.58 | numist | should have worked from home today ;) |
| 19:20.56 | scanlime | numist: yeah, see section 7.2.1 in the spec. it's the same as usb 1.1, five unit loads of 100mA each |
| 19:21.13 | numist | I sit corrected then, and all the wiser for it |
| 19:21.39 | numist | however, still not sure if thats enough... I recall 2A wasnt enough for the usbide box I was making |
| 19:21.44 | numist | but the hub factored in there too |
| 19:21.58 | scanlime | that was for 4 disks :P |
| 19:22.04 | scanlime | and laptop disks are much lower power |
| 19:22.27 | numist | indeed |
| 19:22.42 | numist | the other thing is taht I planned on using it on airplanes so I can play my old games in vmware on flights |
| 19:23.08 | scanlime | why don't you just use virtual disks with vmware instead of real disks? |
| 19:23.19 | numist | my laptop is disk-limited |
| 19:23.23 | numist | since its my workstation at work |
| 19:23.39 | numist | plus, this single vm I want to use on multiple machines |
| 19:23.47 | numist | in different physical locations |
| 19:23.57 | scanlime | it's easier to do that with virtual disks :P |
| 19:24.02 | numist | (like, toronto vs san diego, so sharing it on the lan wont work) |
| 19:24.10 | numist | well yeah.. but I still need an extra hard drive for it |
| 19:25.56 | darth_mall | no hard drives! tapes! |
| 19:26.13 | numist | :o |
| 19:26.31 | scanlime | hehe |
| 19:26.38 | numist | 5.5W max peak load |
| 19:26.42 | scanlime | dustin was talking about storing divx movies on tapes |
| 19:26.45 | numist | no amperage info on the site though.. bah |
| 19:26.52 | ChipX86 | numist: virtual disks also gives you snapshots |
| 19:27.02 | scanlime | he ended up with kind of ghetto digital VCR |
| 19:27.03 | numist | ChipX86: I dont think Id make much use of snapshots though |
| 19:27.08 | ChipX86 | and they're going to give you other advantages later |
| 19:27.20 | numist | Ill just store my virtual disks on an ext disk then |
| 19:27.24 | ChipX86 | probably best to do that |
| 19:27.28 | numist | :) |
| 19:27.30 | ChipX86 | there are potential issues with using physical disks anywya |
| 19:27.40 | ChipX86 | probably not in this case, but still |
| 19:28.03 | numist | sounds like some bugs you need worked out :P |
| 19:28.06 | scanlime | virtual disks are also usually more space efficient |
| 19:28.18 | numist | as they dont preallocate unless you force it to, yes |
| 19:32.12 | scanlime | damnit! |
| 19:32.25 | scanlime | this is the second time I've been hunting all morning for a bug in my code only to find out it's a buggy USB device |
| 19:32.57 | scanlime | their crappy flash drive doesn't reset itself properly |
| 19:33.16 | numist | unfortunately, that kinda becomes your problem, doesnt it |
| 19:33.21 | scanlime | no |
| 19:33.25 | scanlime | well, it usually does |
| 19:33.43 | numist | I recall the windows memory management code has special cases for apps that have known bugs so it saves them from themselves |
| 19:33.43 | scanlime | but I've already investigated this problem, the only solution is to unplug the device and plug it back in |
| 19:33.49 | scanlime | it doesn't reset itself properly after an error |
| 19:33.54 | numist | like word 97 frees a random pointer once its initialized |
| 19:34.01 | scanlime | yes yes, we have stuff like this |
| 19:34.04 | numist | hehe |
| 19:34.09 | scanlime | but my point is that this device is screwing up my debugging |
| 19:34.14 | numist | :( |
| 19:34.32 | numist | it must be destroyed |
| 19:34.39 | scanlime | it's mine :P |
| 19:34.51 | scanlime | but I should stop bringing it to work, and get them to buy me some better devices |
| 19:34.59 | ChipX86 | she died! |
| 19:35.05 | ChipX86 | why did she die? |
| 19:35.11 | scanlime | ChipX86: don't panic |
| 19:35.14 | darth_mall | hahaha |
| 19:35.23 | darth_mall | ChipX86: I love you ^^ |
| 19:35.29 | scanlime | :) |
| 19:35.29 | darth_mall | that made my day |
| 19:35.37 | ChipX86 | oh |
| 19:35.39 | ChipX86 | she's not dead anymore |
| 19:36.00 | ChipX86 | that was funny |
| 19:36.00 | scanlime | she didn't die, they just like to trick you :P |
| 19:36.15 | kergoth | lol |
| 19:36.41 | kergoth | yay firefly |
| 19:36.49 | scanlime | fuck yes |
| 19:36.59 | scanlime | this code works |
| 19:37.03 | scanlime | I just have to have working hardware |
| 19:39.05 | CIA-5 | smrt: 03jupiter * r110 10docs/ (6 files in 3 dirs): add some extra garbage in the introduction, add a circle menu figure to the architecture diagram and make some aesthetic changes to the arc menu blend file |
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| 19:46.36 | scanlime | aw |
| 19:48.13 | *** join/#tacobeam pagefault (n=pagefaul@66.199.241.90) |
| 19:48.39 | purple_cow | well, the workflow for this is a complete pain in the ass, but it looks good |
| 19:49.06 | scanlime | trying to get the blender stuff into your latex? |
| 19:50.26 | purple_cow | sorta kinda |
| 19:50.53 | purple_cow | do it in blender to get nice 3d, then trace by hand (since the bitmap trace isn't doing so well on these) into svg to make 'em pretty |
| 19:51.03 | scanlime | ooh, that's what I was about to guess |
| 19:51.06 | scanlime | that's nuts :P |
| 19:51.18 | purple_cow | hehe |
| 19:51.33 | scanlime | I imagine your documents are going to be a good bit more aesthetically pleasing than ours |
| 19:51.46 | scanlime | everybody in our team tried to make them pretty, but we all had completely different styles |
| 19:52.00 | scanlime | mine were all pastel colors and rounded rectangles, jason's were drop shadows and gradients... |
| 19:56.14 | numist | son of a... |
| 19:56.23 | numist | my function is fine, its someone elses fault |
| 19:56.26 | numist | and their problem becomes mine |
| 19:56.31 | numist | yay inheritance |
| 19:57.06 | kergoth | heh |
| 19:57.57 | ChipX86 | ooh starcraft should be here today |
| 20:01.12 | numist | ? |
| 20:01.32 | ChipX86 | ordered the Starcraft Battle Chest |
| 20:03.07 | numist | nice |
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| 20:25.01 | ChipX86 | hahaha |
| 20:25.03 | ChipX86 | this show rocks |
| 20:25.07 | kergoth | yep :) |
| 20:25.09 | scanlime | =D |
| 20:25.13 | kergoth | the writing is great |
| 20:25.44 | ChipX86 | "Say that to my face." "I said you are a coward and a pisspot. Now what are you going to do about it?" "Nothing, I just wanted you to face me so that she could get behind you." |
| 20:25.54 | scanlime | hehe |
| 20:26.03 | scanlime | "Next time you're going to stab me in the back, have the guts to do it to my face" |
| 20:26.07 | kergoth | Next time you're gonna stab me in the back, have the guts to do it to my face |
| 20:26.09 | kergoth | haha |
| 20:26.11 | kergoth | :) |
| 20:26.16 | scanlime | :P |
| 20:26.30 | scanlime | what a great show |
| 20:26.46 | scanlime | oh lookie.. for some reason it's recompiling the GUI again |
| 20:27.09 | numist | deer park is struggling |
| 20:27.13 | kergoth | i love that spot in the serenity preview.. "Do you want to run this ship?!" "Yeah." "well.. you cant." |
| 20:27.22 | numist | hehe |
| 20:27.38 | numist | fuck |
| 20:27.55 | numist | if this means I have to wait another 3 hours... |
| 20:27.59 | numist | ugh, I do... |
| 20:28.23 | numist | vdjkdbseducixoerd |
| 20:29.23 | ChipX86 | wget? |
| 20:30.03 | ChipX86 | "This is going to get pretty interesting." "Define interesting." "Oh god, oh god, we're all going to die?" |
| 20:30.03 | numist | :/ |
| 20:30.14 | numist | requires some sort of hoop jumping and referer checking |
| 20:36.11 | scanlime | oh no, main is locked |
| 20:36.18 | ChipX86 | argh |
| 20:36.20 | ChipX86 | why? |
| 20:36.25 | scanlime | look at tinderbox |
| 20:36.29 | ChipX86 | ugh |
| 20:36.56 | ChipX86 | I didn't do it |
| 20:37.05 | scanlime | me neither :P |
| 20:37.17 | scanlime | looks like it happened last night |
| 20:37.28 | scanlime | the only thing I committed yesterday was a big pile of crossports to hosted2005 |
| 20:38.43 | scanlime | hah |
| 20:38.55 | scanlime | "hub 1-1:1.0: Cannot enable port 1. Maybe the USB cable is bad?" |
| 20:38.58 | scanlime | yes.. the cable... |
| 20:39.48 | ChipX86 | headaches bad |
| 20:39.51 | ChipX86 | sleep good |
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| 20:41.28 | ChipX86 | hey |
| 20:41.39 | Cae | hey |
| 20:46.32 | ChipX86 | "Sir, I think you have a problem with your brain being missing." |
| 20:46.59 | scanlime | :) |
| 20:47.02 | ChipX86 | TD! |
| 20:49.31 | nullpuppy | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:49.44 | ChipX86 | yay, cplusplus again. |
| 20:49.52 | *** join/#tacobeam TD (n=mike@foghorn.codeweavers.com) |
| 20:52.11 | scanlime | go go gadget ubanto.. boot faster! |
| 20:54.26 | scanlime | sigh |
| 20:54.29 | scanlime | still a "bad USB cable" |
| 20:58.12 | nullpuppy | i love the ending of the first episode |
| 21:02.50 | CIA-5 | smrt: 03jupiter * r111 10docs/lib/figures/arc_menu.svg: add super-sexy arc menu svg |
| 21:04.45 | scanlime | what's wrong with this guy in #vmware? |
| 21:04.58 | ChipX86 | he's an idiot and has demonstrated that several times a day |
| 21:05.16 | scanlime | yeah... |
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| 21:08.44 | Cae | woohoo, go spim, unaligned address.. |
| 21:10.04 | ChipX86 | hahahah |
| 21:10.10 | ChipX86 | this is such a great series |
| 21:10.29 | CIA-5 | smrt: 03jupiter * r112 10docs/system-architecture/ (Makefile architecture.tex): arc menu figure |
| 21:10.44 | Cae | yay, fixed |
| 21:10.51 | nullpuppy | yeah, too bad it got cancelled :( |
| 21:11.12 | ChipX86 | the good shows are always cancelled |
| 21:11.21 | nullpuppy | yeah |
| 21:11.42 | ChipX86 | hosted-ui-group has a big |
| 21:11.44 | ChipX86 | er |
| 21:11.53 | ChipX86 | a big "The High Priest of the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster" thread |
| 21:12.10 | nullpuppy | haha, nice :) |
| 21:14.55 | nullpuppy | oooh, looks like today is google's 7th birthday ;) |
| 21:16.01 | numist | yep |
| 21:16.06 | numist | it has been for most of a day now |
| 21:16.13 | nullpuppy | hehe :) |
| 21:20.04 | CIA-5 | spacegrant: 03dkuester * r1732 10science/sbdart/tools/test_runs.sh: |
| 21:20.04 | CIA-5 | spacegrant: Fix test suite to behave nicely with the pipes of happiness |
| 21:20.04 | CIA-5 | spacegrant: No, not that kind of pipe |
| 21:20.26 | scanlime | :) |
| 21:21.04 | ChipX86 | holy shit! |
| 21:21.13 | ChipX86 | scanlime: http://vmweb/~plangdale/photos/fsm.jpg |
| 21:21.32 | Cae | yay |
| 21:21.35 | Cae | 22 16 10 |
| 21:21.35 | Cae | 34 25 16 |
| 21:21.35 | Cae | 46 34 22 |
| 21:21.36 | scanlime | ChipX86: oh my god! |
| 21:21.38 | Cae | it works :) |
| 21:21.45 | scanlime | ChipX86: what is it and how can I get one? |
| 21:21.48 | ChipX86 | asking now |
| 21:22.12 | nullpuppy | hmm? |
| 21:22.19 | numist | link doesnt work here ;) |
| 21:22.29 | nullpuppy | :) |
| 21:22.38 | ChipX86 | they're all.. noodly and god-like |
| 21:22.41 | ChipX86 | but with VMware logos on it |
| 21:22.45 | numist | fsm? |
| 21:23.17 | ChipX86 | not the fsm, but it sure looks like it was inspired by it |
| 21:23.32 | nullpuppy | ah, ok :) |
| 21:23.34 | ChipX86 | headaches getting worse |
| 21:23.38 | nullpuppy | :( |
| 21:25.45 | ChipX86 | scanlime: be on the lookout for people attending career fairs |
| 21:25.56 | ChipX86 | those people will have access to these |
| 21:25.56 | scanlime | hmm |
| 21:25.59 | ChipX86 | and then get me one (or more) |
| 21:26.04 | scanlime | :) |
| 21:26.12 | nullpuppy | "what are we doing?" "oh, crime!" |
| 21:26.56 | ChipX86 | :) |
| 21:27.03 | ChipX86 | someday, I shall buy medicine |
| 21:27.22 | TD | heya! |
| 21:27.29 | TD | er |
| 21:27.30 | TD | mexico |
| 21:27.38 | ChipX86 | "They were very popular at the fair. Must be the power of the FSM at work." |
| 21:27.45 | nullpuppy | meixco sounds funner ... :) |
| 21:27.53 | ChipX86 | hosted-ui-group has no real discussion going on today |
| 21:30.15 | ChipX86 | :) |
| 21:31.08 | Cae | ow, head broke |
| 21:31.15 | ChipX86 | Cae: yours too? :( |
| 21:31.28 | Cae | ChipX86: it just tried to calculate stack space |
| 21:31.37 | Cae | and went "uh..I dunno" |
| 21:31.40 | ChipX86 | oh |
| 21:31.49 | Cae | and ground to a halt |
| 21:31.57 | Cae | my brain does not like assembly |
| 21:33.36 | ChipX86 | woah |
| 21:33.50 | ChipX86 | http://www.mgmaps.com/ |
| 21:34.35 | scanlime | oh sweet |
| 21:36.40 | numist | who nice |
| 21:36.56 | Cae | head..pain.. |
| 21:37.35 | Cae | I LIKED it broken! |
| 21:37.48 | ChipX86 | my head is in physical pain :( |
| 21:37.54 | ChipX86 | and it won't stop |
| 21:38.01 | nullpuppy | :( |
| 21:38.52 | ChipX86 | it's a bit slow, but not bad |
| 21:39.12 | ChipX86 | I so want a vmware noodly |
| 21:41.36 | numist | and waits... |
| 21:41.50 | scanlime | ooh nice |
| 21:41.59 | numist | ...stopped making traffic, but no display? |
| 21:42.23 | numist | :/ |
| 21:42.30 | numist | I have a feeling I may need to find a proxy |
| 21:42.34 | scanlime | ooh, application error |
| 21:42.44 | scanlime | maybe I need the 'low memory' option |
| 21:42.45 | ChipX86 | works perfectly here, just slow (not their fault) |
| 21:43.01 | scanlime | my phone is a slow crippled piece of crap |
| 21:43.04 | numist | nice, my phone doesnt suport jpeg |
| 21:43.05 | scanlime | if it runs at all it's a miracle |
| 21:43.07 | numist | getting java errors |
| 21:43.11 | ChipX86 | numist: ewww |
| 21:43.14 | ChipX86 | :( |
| 21:43.19 | purple_cow | yay, my new hard disk is here |
| 21:43.20 | numist | pretty stack traces |
| 21:43.26 | scanlime | yay |
| 21:43.52 | scanlime | it works sorta for me... |
| 21:43.53 | numist | Ill have to figure something out later |
| 21:44.04 | scanlime | I get the US map, then it either crashes or just goes blank when I move around a bit |
| 21:44.10 | numist | nic |
| 21:44.35 | numist | Im going to have to make a site to convert jpg to png or something... apparently theres nothing premade for it |
| 21:44.38 | numist | oh well |
| 21:44.47 | numist | nothing a slow night of hacking wont fix |
| 21:45.02 | scanlime | numist: it includes an option for PNG :P |
| 21:45.14 | scanlime | and presumably you can download the proxy app to run on your own server |
| 21:45.22 | numist | scanlime: under that theres a link for a png converter |
| 21:45.25 | numist | it doesnt do it itself |
| 21:45.39 | scanlime | that's what I'm saying.. you run that on your own server |
| 21:45.53 | numist | right, I didnt see any available though, so I assume I have to write my own |
| 21:46.12 | numist | ah theres the script |
| 21:46.43 | numist | psh |
| 21:47.07 | numist | actually, thats kinda sloppy |
| 21:47.14 | numist | Ill link it up here so you guys can use it if you want |
| 21:48.56 | ChipX86 | or you could give your professor the hard disks instead of the homework |
| 21:49.01 | numist | ChipX86: nice |
| 21:49.05 | numist | thatll go over well |
| 21:49.19 | ChipX86 | "I didn't do the assignment. Here's a hard disk." |
| 21:49.46 | ChipX86 | better than cash. You can't store much on cash |
| 21:49.59 | numist | you could fit a bunch of assignments on this disk! |
| 21:50.03 | purple_cow | naw, i have to send the other disk back |
| 21:50.08 | ChipX86 | give him that one |
| 21:50.13 | purple_cow | or else they make me buy it |
| 21:50.29 | numist | wow why is svn being so slow on update? |
| 21:51.36 | file[laptop] | woot Nagios is working |
| 21:53.28 | numist | no wonder deer park is so fast.. it caches the entire internet in RAM |
| 21:53.52 | numist | I remember a time when I didnt even think 100MB of ram could exist.. |
| 21:53.57 | file | numist: the interweb exists only in your mind |
| 21:53.59 | kergoth | http://kergoth.com/mediawiki/index.php/Code/Lua/TableTraversalIterator |
| 21:54.01 | numist | and now its being populated by a browser alone |
| 21:54.02 | ChipX86 | numist: yep |
| 21:54.04 | kergoth | man, lua's closures make me happy |
| 21:54.05 | numist | :( |
| 21:55.46 | Cae | mkay, 'night guys. time to leave work. |
| 21:55.48 | purple_cow | numist: all firefoxes do that! |
| 21:56.00 | ChipX86 | cya Cae |
| 21:56.23 | purple_cow | a few brave people have pointed out that while caches are nice, they're leaks if they never delete anything from them |
| 21:57.28 | darth_mall | purple_cow: ^^ |
| 21:57.42 | CIA-5 | numi-misc: 03numist * r140 10numist.net/wap/ (. convert.php): wap area and a mgmaps png converter for 'everyone' |
| 21:58.19 | darth_mall | wow... lookit all that work on smrt while I was grocery shopping and eating |
| 21:58.46 | numist | http://numist.net/wap/convert.php <-- mgmaps png convertor |
| 21:58.52 | darth_mall | liar! |
| 21:59.04 | numist | :) |
| 21:59.08 | numist | prove me wrong |
| 21:59.11 | darth_mall | huh... I don't remember this part of Firefly |
| 21:59.23 | scanlime | hmm |
| 21:59.29 | darth_mall | that was weird |
| 21:59.31 | scanlime | spending other people's money has never been easier |
| 21:59.38 | darth_mall | I'd swear that part is not on the DVDs |
| 21:59.39 | scanlime | at spacegrant I had to do all sorts of paperwork |
| 21:59.46 | darth_mall | scanlime: ^^ |
| 21:59.50 | scanlime | here I just paste a part number into helpzilla :) |
| 22:00.01 | ChipX86 | isn't it fun? |
| 22:00.28 | ChipX86 | I rarely get a chance to do that |
| 22:00.28 | scanlime | indeed |
| 22:00.33 | darth_mall | if I could make you pertier I would! |
| 22:00.39 | scanlime | :) |
| 22:00.43 | scanlime | ChipX86: come work on USB.. you know you want to |
| 22:00.48 | ChipX86 | nope |
| 22:00.50 | ChipX86 | I like my team and my work |
| 22:01.09 | purple_cow | darth_mall: i'm pretty happy with my figures so far :) |
| 22:01.37 | purple_cow | darth_mall: i'd suggest you split the UI stuff up into 2 separate "main" sections - explain each individual widget, then explain how we use them |
| 22:01.42 | numist | ugh, scrolliing through debug logs on a phone is not fun |
| 22:01.47 | darth_mall | ok |
| 22:02.06 | darth_mall | purple_cow: is the "Modular Decomposition" section what slimspace|away is working on? |
| 22:02.12 | purple_cow | darth_mall: should be |
| 22:02.37 | ChipX86 | do you ever see a reaver? |
| 22:03.27 | numist | scanlime: is it possible I could use flapjacks miniproxy for this? |
| 22:03.34 | nullpuppy | i dont't think so |
| 22:03.46 | scanlime | numist: maybe. it's restricted by source IP, so I might have to add your carrier to the list |
| 22:03.53 | scanlime | numist: it's on port 143 if you want to try it |
| 22:04.03 | numist | no user/pass? |
| 22:04.06 | scanlime | nod |
| 22:04.13 | scanlime | but it probably won't work |
| 22:04.19 | scanlime | it's only set up for localhost and t-mobile |
| 22:04.26 | darth_mall | purple_cow: that's what I thought |
| 22:05.15 | numist | looks like its doing something... |
| 22:05.35 | CIA-5 | view: 03chipx86 * 10libview/ (ChangeLog NEWS configure.ac): Updates the NEWS, and bumped the version 0.5.2 and the .so version number. |
| 22:06.07 | darth_mall | this Firefly marathon is getting me even more psyched for Serenity |
| 22:06.14 | scanlime | :) |
| 22:06.18 | ChipX86 | yep |
| 22:06.20 | ChipX86 | I'm happy about it |
| 22:06.28 | ChipX86 | I've only ever seen one episode before this |
| 22:07.03 | numist | connection errors.. possibly my carrier IP isnt in the proxy list? |
| 22:07.04 | darth_mall | I don't get it... why does a toothbrush need an onboard computer? |
| 22:07.26 | nullpuppy | ChipX86: oooooh :) I thought you'd seen more :) |
| 22:07.28 | scanlime | same reason you need to regulate the voltage on razor blades |
| 22:07.29 | ChipX86 | I'm still a few episods behind :( yay for tivo |
| 22:07.42 | nullpuppy | which ep are you watching now? |
| 22:07.50 | ChipX86 | Bushwacked |
| 22:07.53 | nullpuppy | k |
| 22:08.07 | nullpuppy | thats only ep 3 :) |
| 22:08.09 | darth_mall | scanlime: you know all those gadgets you always joke about building? I think you should start building them. Apparently there's a market for it |
| 22:08.21 | numist | agreed |
| 22:08.23 | nullpuppy | well.. or 4.. depending on how you look at it ;) |
| 22:08.23 | ChipX86 | yep |
| 22:09.26 | darth_mall | did they actually run it from the beginning, or did they start with the Train Job? |
| 22:09.31 | ChipX86 | beginning |
| 22:09.36 | nullpuppy | yup :) |
| 22:09.38 | purple_cow | fox started with the train job |
| 22:09.44 | numist | wtf the errors are saying 'jpeg not supported?' but the conf is set for png |
| 22:09.44 | ChipX86 | I'm on sci-fi channel |
| 22:09.51 | nullpuppy | they started with Serenity ;) |
| 22:09.58 | ChipX86 | yep |
| 22:10.48 | purple_cow | let's face it, it just isn't possible to fry an egg with a bicycle-powered hairdryer! |
| 22:10.57 | darth_mall | hehe |
| 22:15.14 | *** join/#tacobeam pagefault (n=pagefaul@pdpc/supporter/active/pagefault) |
| 22:15.25 | pagefault | chicken tikka masala |
| 22:15.26 | pagefault | yum |
| 22:15.35 | darth_mall | purple_cow: so we decided on the last document that even if "smrt" is beginning a sentence, it isn't capitalized, right? |
| 22:16.07 | purple_cow | darth_mall: right |
| 22:16.17 | ChipX86 | SC came |
| 22:16.20 | purple_cow | i've also been always using \textit for it too |
| 22:19.23 | purple_cow | i should maybe write a little command so you can just do \smrt |
| 22:20.47 | pagefault | mmm valium |
| 22:21.09 | pagefault | hello file |
| 22:21.13 | pagefault | whats up |
| 22:21.36 | file[laptop] | setting up Nagios to monitor our entire network, you? |
| 22:22.08 | CIA-5 | view: 03chipx86 * 10libview/ (ChangeLog configure.ac libview/Makefile.am): Actually set the .so version for libview. |
| 22:22.20 | pagefault | pondering how the plastic surgeon is going to chop open my hand |
| 22:22.30 | file[laptop] | what?!? |
| 22:22.31 | nullpuppy | eh? |
| 22:22.45 | nullpuppy | wtf are you doing to your hand?!?! |
| 22:22.45 | ChipX86 | huh? |
| 22:22.46 | pagefault | I have a cyst |
| 22:22.52 | nullpuppy | oh |
| 22:22.52 | ChipX86 | ugh |
| 22:22.53 | nullpuppy | :( |
| 22:22.54 | pagefault | or whatever the doctor called it |
| 22:23.01 | pagefault | some techie medical name |
| 22:23.23 | kergoth | hmm.. i have a couple odd bumps in my fat tissue in places, i wonder if those are just odd conglomations of fat, or if they could be cysts |
| 22:23.41 | pagefault | probably not a bad idea |
| 22:23.44 | pagefault | I mean this isn't a serious thing |
| 22:23.49 | pagefault | but it's something that shouldn't be there |
| 22:23.51 | kergoth | its not like its cancerous or something |
| 22:23.56 | purple_cow | kergoth: lipomas? i had one of those removed just in case |
| 22:24.01 | purple_cow | apparently they're really common |
| 22:24.09 | pagefault | I think thats what it was called |
| 22:24.13 | kergoth | huh |
| 22:24.19 | pagefault | all I said was "I have a bump on my hand" |
| 22:24.25 | pagefault | and she didn't even look at it and told me what it was |
| 22:24.35 | kergoth | hehe |
| 22:25.07 | pagefault | I think all they do is inject a needle in and drain it |
| 22:25.30 | purple_cow | mmm hank dogs |
| 22:25.53 | CIA-5 | view: 03chipx86 * 10libview/ChangeLog: Add the release marker. |
| 22:29.05 | ChipX86 | yay, mrad |
| 22:29.43 | pagefault | is it a myth that if you swallow gum it gets stuck inside you |
| 22:29.48 | pagefault | they should test it on mythbusters |
| 22:29.52 | pagefault | I think that would be valid |
| 22:29.55 | ChipX86 | I'm sure it would have to be |
| 22:30.05 | ChipX86 | I've never heard of a case of gum getting stuck in there |
| 22:30.30 | ChipX86 | it would come out one way or another |
| 22:30.32 | numist | pagefault: if it were true, Id be dead |
| 22:31.17 | ChipX86 | "Sleeping is a weakness of character, ask anyone." |
| 22:32.03 | ChipX86 | why haven't I watched this before |
| 22:32.11 | ChipX86 | why was it cancelled? :( |
| 22:32.47 | scanlime | fox is a turkey |
| 22:33.17 | purple_cow | same reason fox cancelled futurama and the critic and all those other good shows |
| 22:34.03 | ChipX86 | fox has only a couple of good shows that they've allowed to continue |
| 22:34.15 | purple_cow | err, they do? |
| 22:34.18 | purple_cow | like what? |
| 22:34.20 | ChipX86 | 24 |
| 22:34.32 | ChipX86 | Simpsons, even if it's gone downhill a bit |
| 22:34.43 | ChipX86 | and I think that's about it |
| 22:34.57 | scanlime | IMHO the simpsons went way more than a bit downhill |
| 22:35.01 | purple_cow | simpsons has gone downhill a lot :P |
| 22:35.07 | scanlime | remember how good it used to be around the 5th season or so? |
| 22:35.17 | ChipX86 | yeah, but they still keep it on the air, and there's always reruns |
| 22:35.25 | ChipX86 | the point was that it was a good show they allowed to continue |
| 22:35.46 | scanlime | ok |
| 22:36.02 | scanlime | yay.. linux is resetting my ports |
| 22:36.04 | scanlime | again... and again... |
| 22:36.16 | ChipX86 | :/ |
| 22:38.14 | scanlime | it's always more fun getting this stuff working on linux though, since you've got the source to go on |
| 22:38.27 | scanlime | with windows it's always reverse engineering.. blah.. |
| 22:38.55 | scanlime | since even if you're implementing something following a public specification, you need details on the guest's implementation to debug it properly |
| 22:41.25 | purple_cow | ooh, cool |
| 22:41.31 | ChipX86 | scanlime: #vmware |
| 22:41.43 | ChipX86 | I've seen him before too. He likes to ask non-vmware questions in #vmware |
| 22:41.44 | purple_cow | my listening assignment is from one of the CDs that came with the textbooks, so i don't have to reboot into windows for the silly streaming quicktime |
| 22:41.51 | ChipX86 | everyone who speaks seems to be an idiot |
| 22:41.53 | scanlime | wow |
| 22:44.38 | darth_mall | some people juggle geese |
| 22:51.39 | ChipX86 | :) |
| 22:53.19 | ChipX86 | welp, it's official |
| 22:53.23 | scanlime | at least my VM doesn't think the USB cable is bad any more... |
| 22:53.33 | ChipX86 | libview 0.5.2 will be the first release that Workstation will be fully using |
| 22:53.47 | scanlime | is this for RC2? |
| 22:57.37 | ChipX86 | yep |
| 22:58.02 | ChipX86 | going in tonight |
| 22:58.13 | scanlime | OMG!!!! |
| 22:58.15 | scanlime | success!!! |
| 22:58.41 | ChipX86 | ? |
| 22:58.43 | scanlime | that thing I'm working on is working! |
| 22:58.47 | scanlime | correctly even! |
| 22:58.47 | ChipX86 | :D |
| 22:58.59 | kergoth | yay, home |
| 22:59.17 | darth_mall | working correctly is great |
| 22:59.25 | ChipX86 | I wonder if I'm ever going to get my SNES |
| 22:59.30 | ChipX86 | I haven't heard a word |
| 23:00.36 | ChipX86 | heh |
| 23:00.56 | ChipX86 | I always get confused when I'm VNCing to a box, running vmware there, and my cursor is grabbed |
| 23:01.07 | ChipX86 | but the local cursor still works, and nothing else is getting focus |
| 23:02.29 | scanlime | I need more USB devices... |
| 23:02.59 | scanlime | actually, I should see if this works for a windows guest |
| 23:04.22 | kergoth | woot, got my new cd case -> http://kergoth.com/images/other/cdcase01.jpg |
| 23:04.52 | scanlime | without any context, it's only a 1600 line diff from main! |
| 23:05.00 | ChipX86 | that small? |
| 23:05.05 | ChipX86 | good to see you starting simple ;) |
| 23:05.07 | scanlime | apparently =D |
| 23:05.39 | scanlime | well, the code to implement this feature itself was about 800 lines |
| 23:05.43 | scanlime | the rest is infrastructure changes :P |
| 23:06.26 | scanlime | hmm. not sure windows is happy with this yet |
| 23:06.36 | scanlime | but damn |
| 23:06.38 | scanlime | I love this job |
| 23:07.03 | ChipX86 | scanlime: I'm glad you chose VMware |
| 23:08.08 | scanlime | you just need a way to move vmware to boulder :P |
| 23:08.13 | scanlime | then you'll be forgiven |
| 23:08.18 | ChipX86 | :) |
| 23:09.43 | ChipX86 | this headache needs to go away |
| 23:11.12 | scanlime | but damn.. between this and what Chris is working on, our next vmware release should rock usb-wise |
| 23:11.16 | ChipX86 | :) |
| 23:12.14 | darth_mall | hehe... "bible's broken" |
| 23:15.12 | darth_mall | hrm... what else to say about arc menus |
| 23:15.45 | scanlime | they produce ozone? |
| 23:16.19 | darth_mall | yes! |
| 23:16.22 | darth_mall | ozone! |
| 23:18.11 | scanlime | what the fuck.. |
| 23:18.20 | scanlime | leave it to windows to send me a load of random crap then turn me off |
| 23:18.24 | darth_mall | scanlime: you need hair like Book |
| 23:18.28 | scanlime | yes |
| 23:18.37 | ChipX86 | I'm so glad my job is strictly Linux-only |
| 23:19.02 | darth_mall | all frizzy-like and grey |
| 23:19.03 | scanlime | ChipX86: this is a windows guest.. you have to deal with windows guests too |
| 23:19.15 | ChipX86 | oh |
| 23:19.20 | ChipX86 | not really, no |
| 23:19.23 | scanlime | aw |
| 23:19.25 | ChipX86 | I almost never power on VMs |
| 23:19.31 | scanlime | hehe |
| 23:19.41 | ChipX86 | last time I had to power on a VM was when I was helping with the autofit code |
| 23:19.51 | file[laptop] | our LA colo space looks so lonely on Nagios in comparison to Virginia |
| 23:19.53 | ChipX86 | I think that was the first time I had to power on a VM, actually :) |
| 23:20.00 | scanlime | haha |
| 23:20.04 | purple_cow | file[laptop]: NO ONE CARES |
| 23:20.12 | scanlime | well then, Mr. I'm Too Cool For VMX |
| 23:20.26 | ChipX86 | :) |
| 23:21.13 | ChipX86 | noooo! |
| 23:23.50 | file[laptop] | ugh I hate headaches |
| 23:23.55 | ChipX86 | yeah :( |
| 23:24.10 | ChipX86 | the Doom movie seems to suggest that this is all based around Hell |
| 23:24.53 | nullpuppy | yeah, iirc, the movie has very little to do with the series |
| 23:25.02 | nullpuppy | s/series/game series/ |
| 23:25.39 | ChipX86 | Shepherd had better not die |
| 23:25.54 | nullpuppy | yeah |
| 23:26.01 | nullpuppy | i'll be sad :( |
| 23:26.20 | ChipX86 | haven't you seen the whole series? |
| 23:26.25 | nullpuppy | yes. |
| 23:26.35 | ChipX86 | oh ok |
| 23:26.38 | kergoth | seen? |
| 23:26.41 | ChipX86 | so he doesn't die in tihs episode |
| 23:26.43 | nullpuppy | oh.. you're refering to the series.. :) |
| 23:26.57 | nullpuppy | well... i don't want to give it away :( |
| 23:27.01 | nullpuppy | but, no, he doesn't |
| 23:27.19 | kergoth | ah |
| 23:27.36 | nullpuppy | kergoth: scifi firefly marathon ;) |
| 23:27.40 | CIA-5 | smrt: 03evan * r113 10docs/system-architecture/architecture.tex: |
| 23:27.40 | CIA-5 | smrt: Re-writing the User Interface section into a description of the menus and a |
| 23:27.40 | CIA-5 | smrt: description of how the user interacts with them. Done with the arc and ring |
| 23:27.40 | CIA-5 | smrt: menus. |
| 23:28.19 | nullpuppy | hmm, no Serenity on mininova. thats probably a good thing |
| 23:28.58 | nullpuppy | tpb has the clips scifi has been showing though ;) |
| 23:30.32 | ChipX86 | Hollywood is out of ideas: Adam Sandler to star in new "Gilligan's Island" movie. Expect to see lots of shots of the Skipper being hit in the nuts with coconuts |
| 23:31.16 | nullpuppy | haha |
| 23:32.56 | ChipX86 | But American Pie: Band Camp won't arrive in theaters; it's going direct to DVD. And only Eugene Levy remains from the original cast of the hit comedy franchise. |
| 23:33.08 | kergoth | ehh |
| 23:33.13 | kergoth | theres a new amercian pie movie? |
| 23:33.18 | ChipX86 | yep |
| 23:33.43 | nullpuppy | wtf |
| 23:33.58 | darth_mall | purple_cow: you're gonna make a pretty picture the cityscape menu? |
| 23:34.04 | purple_cow | darth_mall: yep |
| 23:34.08 | purple_cow | hmm |
| 23:34.16 | nullpuppy | the first one was good, 2nd was ok, haven't seen 3rd yet, but cool too see the end to the trilogy... now that just doesn't makes sense... |
| 23:34.16 | purple_cow | we need to decide whether it's a "ring menu" or a "circle menu" |
| 23:34.54 | scanlime | it's not necessarily going to be circular |
| 23:34.59 | scanlime | but it will form a ring |
| 23:35.18 | scanlime | but spinny-menu is better :) |
| 23:35.46 | darth_mall | purple_cow: yay! |
| 23:36.01 | darth_mall | purple_cow: I've been calling it a ring menu throughout what I've been writing |
| 23:36.31 | purple_cow | ok. the caption sez circle, so whichever you choose to go with, make sure it's consistent |
| 23:36.54 | darth_mall | any preference? |
| 23:36.59 | purple_cow | nope |
| 23:37.15 | purple_cow | another thing to mention is that both arc and ring/circle/spinny give pseudo-exponential sizing |
| 23:37.31 | scanlime | =D |
| 23:38.16 | scanlime | =D |
| 23:38.46 | scanlime | I plug a 4-port hub into windows and it asks about the 5th port.. I plug an 8-port hub in, and it asks about the 9th |
| 23:38.50 | scanlime | grr |
| 23:39.38 | darth_mall | bad windows |
| 23:39.41 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10bzflag/src/bzfs/commands.cxx: when you call /lagwarn, set the variable that is used, not justthe one in the command line options. |
| 23:41.12 | nullpuppy | aww, I love River ;) |
| 23:41.26 | kergoth | hehe |
| 23:41.56 | nullpuppy | I love her monologue to Badger in Shindig :) |
| 23:44.13 | darth_mall | ^^ |
| 23:46.04 | CIA-5 | smrt: 03evan * r114 10docs/system-architecture/architecture.tex: Comment on sizing of menu items. |
| 23:46.16 | scanlime | yay for working somewhere that can afford this thing |
| 23:47.28 | purple_cow | darth_mall: it's not that we're using sizing to fake depth (unlike wasabi's old ring menu), since we'll actually be using depth (though we'll probably fake it a bit) |
| 23:47.44 | file[laptop] | it amazes me that VMware can't afford all that stuff |
| 23:47.48 | purple_cow | i guess arc menu sizes them strangely |
| 23:47.55 | scanlime | file[laptop]: ? |
| 23:47.58 | file[laptop] | er can |
| 23:48.11 | purple_cow | but the deal with exponential sizing is that it's immediately obvious which one is selected |
| 23:48.31 | purple_cow | ok, homework done. time to get out a gentoo CD and start moving stuff onto the new hard disk :D |
| 23:48.37 | scanlime | file[laptop]: have you seen how much we charge for our products? :) |
| 23:48.40 | file[laptop] | I can't grasp how many companies/people use VMware mostly because I can't see me using it... |
| 23:48.54 | scanlime | the big money comes from datacenter consolidation |
| 23:52.10 | darth_mall | purple_cow: how are we using depth differently from wasabi's ring menu? |
| 23:53.09 | CIA-5 | smrt: 03evan * r115 10docs/system-architecture/architecture.tex: Pending group approval, that just leaves the User Interaction section. |
| 23:57.00 | nullpuppy | "you also lined up exciting new crime." |
