| 00:00.37 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03micah * r8986 10loopy/ (loopy.c soya-particles.py): Fix some more broken exception handling in Loopy that was hiding python errors, and fix up soya-particles.py |
| 00:02.35 | darth_mall | ugh |
| 00:02.45 | darth_mall | why'd the they have to cast the rock in doom? |
| 00:04.14 | scanlime | haha |
| 00:04.20 | scanlime | "Don't open that coffin! It's ticking!" |
| 00:04.38 | kergoth | darth_mall: :( the rock isnt anywhere near being a good fit for that character. |
| 00:04.47 | kergoth | even if he _was_ a good actor, which he isnt |
| 00:07.05 | darth_mall | it makes me sad |
| 00:14.15 | zak | it makes me hungry |
| 00:14.28 | zak | i think i want a fried cheese sort a thing |
| 00:17.49 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03micah * r8987 10loopy/soya-particles.py: Wahoo, the original particle system demo using Soya works again |
| 00:18.57 | scanlime | mmm, cheese |
| 00:19.30 | *** join/#tacobeam laodamas (n=cehoward@c-67-166-53-18.hsd1.co.comcast.net) |
| 00:21.34 | darth_mall | hrm... isn't there a way to get a listing of the classes in a certain module from inside the module? |
| 00:22.08 | scanlime | you can extract them from globals() |
| 00:22.38 | darth_mall | ah |
| 00:22.41 | darth_mall | that'll work, thanks |
| 00:33.57 | zak | scanlime: i need to learn me more html |
| 00:34.17 | zak | but found the COOLEST background |
| 00:35.03 | CIA-5 | covenant-misc: 03kergoth * r26 10luafoo/ (ChangeLog.TXT README.TXT foo.doc): Add note about versioning. |
| 00:35.31 | scanlime | uh oh |
| 00:36.36 | *** join/#tacobeam Sophie197 (n=a_little@user-0c6snjm.cable.mindspring.com) |
| 00:36.48 | Sophie197 | I'm here. Where are you? |
| 00:36.54 | darth_mall | right behind you! |
| 00:37.04 | darth_mall | oh... were you talking to me? |
| 00:37.05 | Sophie197 | Oh! There you are.. |
| 00:37.11 | darth_mall | ^^ |
| 00:37.29 | Sophie197 | :Þ |
| 00:38.00 | darth_mall | oof... smoking is such a gross habit |
| 00:38.00 | zak | scanlime: go lookit my homepage :) |
| 00:38.03 | zak | pretty background |
| 00:39.32 | zak | OH I SO RULE!!! |
| 00:40.39 | zak | scanlime: GO LOOK |
| 00:40.44 | zak | i am so..cool.. |
| 00:40.46 | Sophie197 | I wanna look |
| 00:40.50 | Sophie197 | can I look? |
| 00:40.50 | zak | you look yoo |
| 00:40.54 | zak | s/yoo/too |
| 00:41.00 | Sophie197 | what's the url? |
| 00:41.05 | zak | zero.navi.cx/~zak |
| 00:41.07 | kergoth | why are brook shields and tom green on this weird movie on the disney channel? |
| 00:41.09 | kergoth | it confuses me |
| 00:41.11 | zak | don't judge to harshly |
| 00:41.16 | zak | i am not to good at html |
| 00:41.30 | scanlime | zak: you must learn the difference between a good web page background and a wallpaper image ;) |
| 00:41.40 | zak | you can read it |
| 00:41.55 | scanlime | yes.. but it's really oversized.. |
| 00:42.01 | scanlime | try to think simpler |
| 00:42.02 | zak | scanlime: so make me a pretty one, oh fyre god |
| 00:42.11 | scanlime | that's not what I'm saying |
| 00:42.21 | scanlime | well |
| 00:42.22 | Sophie197 | fancy. |
| 00:42.29 | zak | she doesn't like the tiled look |
| 00:42.36 | zak | i would be ok with centering something |
| 00:42.42 | zak | but i haven't mastered that skill yet |
| 00:43.00 | scanlime | zak: this is just my opinion, but I like simple web pages that have a coherent style to them.. you should try to design a site as a whole, rather than just throwing your favorite pictures and such on it |
| 00:43.30 | zak | scanlime: i am workingo n it |
| 00:43.33 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03evan * r8988 10motion/py/Dance/tests.py: |
| 00:43.33 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: Use a function to create a TestSuite for the entire module. TestRK4 and |
| 00:43.33 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: TestSequence fail right now because they're not done. |
| 00:43.34 | Sophie197 | there are, like, facing in the background |
| 00:43.38 | scanlime | I like the klein bottle, but it would go much better as a subtle image in the corner of your site, if you use it at all |
| 00:43.42 | Sophie197 | they're looking at me. |
| 00:44.20 | zak | better? |
| 00:44.27 | scanlime | zak: a good exercise to teach yourself more HTML and CSS would be to use no images at all and minimal text, and try to get the layout you want with CSS |
| 00:44.30 | darth_mall | zak: if you're serious about web design, there are some good books on the subject |
| 00:44.50 | scanlime | zak: that still isn't a good web page background.. backgrounds are really very overused, you generally don't want them |
| 00:44.51 | darth_mall | not just about HTML and CSS, but about creating good layouts |
| 00:44.54 | scanlime | yes |
| 00:45.10 | darth_mall | that's why there are books ^^ |
| 00:45.19 | zak | i am so bad at this, that I have been hitting view source and stealing bits i like |
| 00:45.29 | darth_mall | nothing wrong with that |
| 00:45.47 | scanlime | books good.. though a decent start might just be looking at sites that are easy to use and that you like the look of and figuring out how they work- not just on a technical level, but why you like their design |
| 00:45.51 | Sophie197 | nobody gave me that kind of feedback on my website :| |
| 00:46.06 | Sophie197 | in fact, nobody went, I don't think. |
| 00:46.11 | kergoth | no offense, but it reminds me of the majority of the web pages out there from oh, say, the mid 90s |
| 00:46.18 | darth_mall | Sophie197: my web pages have usually been like that ^^ |
| 00:46.23 | zak | darth_mall: i recall liking your webpage |
| 00:46.30 | zak | where did you hide it? |
| 00:46.31 | darth_mall | heh... which one? |
| 00:46.43 | Sophie197 | okay, while you're all in the mood |
| 00:46.45 | zak | ummm...it had tabs (3 i think), it was pink, |
| 00:46.52 | Sophie197 | http://www.sophiesmusic.com/ |
| 00:46.56 | zak | and had dnd quotes on one of the tabs |
| 00:47.00 | Sophie197 | ^ do this be too busy? |
| 00:47.02 | darth_mall | yeah, that one's gone |
| 00:47.06 | darth_mall | got hosed when navi poofed |
| 00:47.11 | darth_mall | that was a gross page anyway |
| 00:47.53 | file[laptop] | your background takes awhile to load... |
| 00:47.59 | Sophie197 | yay |
| 00:48.03 | Sophie197 | feedback |
| 00:48.17 | darth_mall | Sophie197: cute |
| 00:48.43 | Sophie197 | can't read the text at the top, can ya? |
| 00:48.58 | zak | Sophie197: i like |
| 00:49.15 | scanlime | there's something funny happening with image compression or scaling at the top |
| 00:49.17 | Sophie197 | not too busy? My dad said too busy. |
| 00:49.33 | Sophie197 | hmmm. m'k. |
| 00:49.52 | scanlime | well, it's hard to know what to read at first glance |
| 00:49.58 | scanlime | but it's no worse than most sites |
| 00:50.08 | scanlime | zak: good luck |
| 00:50.13 | Sophie197 | m'k |
| 00:50.17 | zak | but she does intend to have a functional webpage she likes at somepoint |
| 00:50.23 | scanlime | awwww.. zsnes still broke |
| 00:50.34 | darth_mall | Sophie197: you need to make better use of blink tags ^^ |
| 00:50.47 | zak | and now! pizza sauce |
| 00:50.51 | scanlime | zak: good luck on that too- I'm sure between the interweb, books, and friends you have plenty of resources to make tha thappen |
| 00:50.53 | Sophie197 | blink tags, eh? |
| 00:50.53 | scanlime | pff |
| 00:50.55 | scanlime | blinky! |
| 00:51.00 | kergoth | Sophie197: i like it. relatively clean. there is quite a bit going on in the center area, but i'm not sure how you'd make it better |
| 00:51.07 | scanlime | bzflag works, why can't zsnes work? |
| 00:52.13 | darth_mall | Sophie197: blink tags make all web pages superb |
| 00:53.25 | CIA-5 | covenant-misc: 03kergoth * r27 10wowfoo/: Create wowfoo template package. |
| 01:05.34 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03evan * r8989 10motion/py/Dance/ (Sequence.py tests.py): |
| 01:05.34 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: Sequence takes a chaotic system, not an ODE solver now. Test the Euclidean |
| 01:05.34 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: distance calculation. |
| 01:07.00 | scanlime | everybody dance! |
| 01:07.35 | kergoth | ~emulate gir |
| 01:07.37 | jbot | to make room for the TUNA! |
| 01:07.40 | kergoth | hehe |
| 01:07.48 | kergoth | i havent watched zim in too long |
| 01:29.21 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03evan * r8990 10motion/py/Dance/ (Sequence.py tests.py): Need to redesign the Sequence class. |
| 01:40.22 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03micah * r8991 10loopy/ (loopy.c nehe-06.py): Tweak the default settings for the matrix tracker. This unbreaks glxgears |
| 02:06.47 | ChipX86 | "We can do anything now that science has invented magic!" |
| 02:10.36 | scanlime | why does glxgears support printing? :P |
| 02:11.00 | ChipX86 | to test high-end printers' PPS? :) |
| 02:11.06 | scanlime | I think so |
| 02:11.41 | scanlime | hmm |
| 02:11.48 | kergoth | bleh. suddenly really tired |
| 02:11.58 | kergoth | and unmotivated, and drained |
| 02:15.09 | file | kergoth: I've felt like that the entire day |
| 02:18.32 | ChipX86 | I feel like chinese |
| 02:19.13 | file | ChipX86: mmm |
| 02:20.45 | scanlime | I like chinese |
| 02:20.51 | kergoth | hehe |
| 02:20.55 | kergoth | i need mp3s of those |
| 02:20.59 | file | scanlime: oh no! have you caught the bug? |
| 02:23.56 | *** join/#tacobeam Veight (i=Veight@c-24-118-220-75.hsd1.mn.comcast.net) |
| 02:30.29 | file[laptop] | argh why must I feel bad |
| 02:31.00 | kergoth | :( |
| 02:36.10 | *** join/#tacobeam ChipX86|Cell (n=chipx86@h46070ac9.area7.spcsdns.net) |
| 02:37.01 | ChipX86|Cell | Today Really Sucks |
| 02:37.56 | scanlime | :( |
| 02:38.17 | file[laptop] | I agree |
| 02:38.29 | ChipX86|Cell | Locked Myself Out |
| 02:39.09 | ChipX86|Cell | And This Program Sucks Too |
| 02:39.51 | scanlime | ugg |
| 02:41.10 | ChipX86|Cell | I Picked Up My Keys And Decided I Didnt Need Them And Put Them Back Down |
| 02:41.50 | ChipX86|Cell | Them I Opened The Door And Locked It And Left |
| 02:41.59 | *** join/#tacobeam pfault (n=pagefaul@66.199.241.90) |
| 02:42.05 | scanlime | That Sucks |
| 02:42.08 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03evan * r8992 10motion/py/Dance/ (ODE.py Sequence.py Systems.py tests.py): |
| 02:42.09 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: For some reason python is not liking the keys I'm using. Hashable objects seem |
| 02:42.09 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: to hate me these days. |
| 02:42.11 | darth_mall | ChipX86|Cell: =\ |
| 02:44.39 | *** join/#tacobeam pagefault (n=pagefaul@66.199.241.90) |
| 02:47.42 | darth_mall | ah hah! |
| 02:50.28 | laodamas | teaches me to use Windows based BIOS update tools |
| 02:51.27 | CIA-5 | smrt: 03jupiter * r105 10docs/user-interface/figures/ (circle-menu-1.png circle-menu-1.svg): convert first diagram to svg |
| 02:51.29 | laodamas | It\ |
| 02:52.33 | laodamas | looks as though that I can fix it with a DOS floppy though |
| 02:52.41 | kergoth | "Modern cars. They all look like electric shavers." |
| 02:53.10 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03evan * r8993 10motion/py/Dance/Systems.py: lists and numeric arrays are not hashable. boo. |
| 02:54.24 | pagefault | yay |
| 02:54.29 | pagefault | next month I can start taking the uberbus |
| 02:57.03 | pagefault | and save like $50 a month |
| 03:00.01 | file[laptop] | the uberbus? |
| 03:01.18 | pagefault | GPS tracked express bus |
| 03:01.24 | file[laptop] | ooh |
| 03:01.38 | file[laptop] | they need GPS tracked Swiss Chalet drivers |
| 03:01.41 | pagefault | yeah it control the traffic lights too |
| 03:01.44 | pagefault | err can |
| 03:02.00 | pagefault | no more waiting in traffic |
| 03:02.37 | pagefault | I hope bell hurries with with the deployment of wimax |
| 03:02.42 | pagefault | I want to use it |
| 03:05.40 | file[laptop] | silly Bell |
| 03:06.51 | pagefault | better than eating up 1X data fees |
| 03:06.57 | pagefault | $110 per month for 40mb |
| 03:07.01 | pagefault | sillyness |
| 03:08.55 | file[laptop] | pagefault: how was your day? |
| 03:09.02 | pagefault | good |
| 03:09.05 | pagefault | and yours? |
| 03:09.16 | file[laptop] | terrible, it's been a very blahish day |
| 03:09.27 | pagefault | lots of rain |
| 03:09.28 | pagefault | here |
| 03:09.40 | scanlime | MUFFINS! |
| 03:09.45 | file[laptop] | scanlime: good idea |
| 03:10.01 | file[laptop] | muffins make everything better |
| 03:10.23 | pagefault | mmmmmuffins |
| 03:10.28 | pagefault | actual name of a store here |
| 03:10.41 | pagefault | mmmmmuffins sells muffins |
| 03:10.51 | scanlime | english muffins |
| 03:11.00 | file[laptop] | rather then greek muffins? |
| 03:11.08 | pagefault | I think they sell everything |
| 03:11.10 | scanlime | politely |
| 03:11.12 | pagefault | I once bought a scone from there |
| 03:11.17 | pagefault | but that wasn't really a muffin at all |
| 03:11.30 | scanlime | a greek scone? |
| 03:11.36 | pagefault | an english one |
| 03:11.37 | file[laptop] | it was probably asian |
| 03:11.54 | pagefault | they had some french coissants though |
| 03:11.58 | pagefault | or maybe they were geek |
| 03:11.59 | pagefault | err greek |
| 03:12.50 | pagefault | I eat stuff |
| 03:13.16 | file[laptop] | I never would have guessed |
| 03:14.33 | file[laptop] | tomorrow can only be better then today |
| 03:14.41 | file[laptop] | if it isn't I will stab it |
| 03:18.17 | file[laptop] | zak: might try poking him harder |
| 03:18.32 | zak | :P |
| 03:19.34 | scanlime | ow |
| 03:19.50 | scanlime | zak: something's wrong with my gaim, new conversations pop up behind all other windowss |
| 03:19.54 | scanlime | so I don't usually notice them |
| 03:20.02 | zak | you are you irc'ing on gaim? |
| 03:20.06 | scanlime | no |
| 03:20.17 | zak | aha |
| 03:20.23 | zak | yea, i poked you here first |
| 03:20.34 | zak | hehehe |
| 03:20.42 | zak | you gotta get your gaim on |
| 03:22.28 | kergoth | hahaha, sin city kicks ass so far |
| 03:22.32 | *** topic/#tacobeam by laodamas -> EARMUFFINS |
| 03:22.37 | pagefault | yeah that movie rules |
| 03:23.13 | scanlime | zak: ah. well, I was just on a different desktop then |
| 03:23.20 | *** join/#tacobeam JeffM2501 (n=jeffm@pdpc/supporter/sustaining/JeffM2501) |
| 03:23.51 | pagefault | you need the extender |
| 03:23.56 | purple_cow | yay, earmuffins |
| 03:25.51 | scanlime | hrmph.. still not sure why zsnes isn't working |
| 03:26.05 | scanlime | it's the only app I've tried on recent code that just doesn't render at all |
| 03:29.27 | file[laptop] | night folks |
| 03:29.38 | pagefault | nighty night |
| 03:29.40 | pagefault | dream of chicken |
| 03:29.45 | pagefault | or a burger |
| 03:30.06 | file[laptop] | lol |
| 03:30.42 | scanlime | is it just me, or are you two obsessed with crazy canadian fast food? |
| 03:31.15 | pagefault | maybe |
| 03:31.25 | pagefault | but then again isn't everyone crazy somehow |
| 03:32.27 | scanlime | I've just never seen someone so excited about fast food... |
| 03:32.43 | scanlime | is it really that good? I've had tolerable fast food, but nothing I'd get excited about... |
| 03:33.04 | laodamas | I know people who worship In-and-Out Burger |
| 03:33.04 | scanlime | purple_cow: :) |
| 03:33.27 | scanlime | laodamas: there's one of those down the street from my apartment... still haven't tried it, nor seen one outside of california |
| 03:33.42 | purple_cow | laodamas: i know about people who worship mcdonalds too, but that doesn't make it good |
| 03:34.23 | laodamas | scanlime: They are good. Take a look in the back and you can see them slicing potatoes into fries |
| 03:34.54 | purple_cow | poh |
| 03:35.00 | purple_cow | everyone knows fries aren't made from potatoes |
| 03:35.19 | pagefault | well it's not really fast food |
| 03:41.26 | purple_cow | laodamas: i think there are necessarily fewer of them than other such places, but they exist |
| 03:42.37 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03micah * r8994 10loopy/loopy.c: Track glClearColor |
| 03:43.51 | scanlime | hmmmmmm |
| 03:44.01 | scanlime | gluPerspective is breaking it |
| 03:44.09 | scanlime | that's really odd... |
| 03:45.41 | laodamas | purple_cow: I don't doubt you |
| 03:49.59 | zak | scanlime: go lookit gaim |
| 03:50.43 | scanlime | oop |
| 03:55.27 | lurgy | meow |
| 03:55.30 | lurgy | hi zak |
| 03:55.33 | lurgy | and scanlime and laodamas |
| 03:55.35 | lurgy | and purple_cow |
| 03:55.40 | lurgy | and so on |
| 03:55.43 | lurgy | in that fashion |
| 03:57.14 | numist | Im not making rolled capacitors again |
| 03:57.26 | lurgy | mm |
| 03:57.27 | lurgy | muffins |
| 03:57.32 | purple_cow | we will start with the math teachers, then the firemen, and so on, in the fashion... |
| 03:57.36 | lurgy | hehe |
| 03:57.37 | lurgy | yep |
| 03:57.38 | purple_cow | err, that fashion |
| 03:58.43 | scanlime | :) |
| 03:58.48 | scanlime | hrm |
| 03:58.50 | scanlime | this is realy odd |
| 03:59.01 | scanlime | with gluPerspective() my cube renders but zsnes doesn't |
| 03:59.07 | scanlime | with just that one line commented out, zsnes renders fine |
| 03:59.23 | purple_cow | weird |
| 03:59.31 | scanlime | hrm |
| 04:00.09 | scanlime | ohhh |
| 04:00.16 | scanlime | zsnes expects the perspective matrix to be an identity |
| 04:00.17 | purple_cow | maybe gluPerspective modifies matrices without going through the normal matrix functions? |
| 04:00.18 | scanlime | :P |
| 04:00.28 | purple_cow | scanlime: ah |
| 04:00.33 | purple_cow | silly zsnes |
| 04:00.38 | scanlime | purple_cow: well, I was assuming my matrix tracking was working, because I was changing the matrix anyway... |
| 04:00.47 | scanlime | but yeah, I guess I have a leaky matrix tracker and zsnes is silly |
| 04:03.03 | pagefault | ooh |
| 04:03.10 | pagefault | wireless headphones for mp3 players |
| 04:03.26 | pagefault | expensive though |
| 04:04.22 | scanlime | sigh.. |
| 04:04.25 | scanlime | pagefault: you should be punished |
| 04:04.32 | scanlime | zsnes never initializes the projection matrix |
| 04:04.45 | pagefault | for opengl? |
| 04:04.55 | scanlime | if I manually stick an identity matrix in loopy's tracker for GL_PROJECTION, zsnes works great |
| 04:04.57 | scanlime | yes |
| 04:05.02 | pagefault | for opengl? |
| 04:05.02 | pagefault | well |
| 04:05.05 | pagefault | I don't know about it |
| 04:05.11 | pagefault | I didn't write the code |
| 04:05.14 | scanlime | of course you do, it's all your fault |
| 04:05.16 | scanlime | ! |
| 04:05.36 | pagefault | patches are always good |
| 04:06.01 | scanlime | I don't want to touch your opengl code, I might catch something from it |
| 04:06.18 | pagefault | it will probably go unfixed then :) |
| 04:06.24 | pagefault | because no one else is touching it either |
| 04:07.49 | scanlime | well, I don't really want to touch zsnes in general... a lot of it looks like it was written on the premise that shorter variable names make the program run faster |
| 04:08.21 | pagefault | it was written back in a time when only two people ever saw the source and time was an issue |
| 04:08.25 | pagefault | that mainly explains a lot |
| 04:09.40 | scanlime | hmm.. I think my matrix restore is going to have to look a lot more like the capabilities restore, so it handles objects that were never used in one of the two glstates... |
| 04:11.38 | pagefault | Square Enix Taito is too huge now |
| 04:11.44 | pagefault | it's going to become the japanese version of EA |
| 04:17.08 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03micah * r8995 10loopy/loopy.c: |
| 04:17.08 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: Like with the capability tracker, the matrix tracker should reset matrices that |
| 04:17.08 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: were used in the previous state but not the next state. This fixes zsnes, which |
| 04:17.08 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: never initializes its projection matrix and assumes it's an identity. |
| 04:17.53 | pagefault | what exactly does loopy do anyway |
| 04:18.13 | scanlime | it conjures demons |
| 04:18.43 | scanlime | and it makes a mean stir-fry |
| 04:18.58 | lurgy | but posix already does strfry |
| 04:19.07 | scanlime | lurgy: this does it better |
| 04:19.14 | lurgy | well, maybe not posix |
| 04:19.15 | lurgy | yeah? |
| 04:19.16 | lurgy | yay |
| 04:19.49 | scanlime | pagefault: loopy == Linker-assisted OpenGL Overlay for Python |
| 04:19.57 | pagefault | interesting |
| 04:20.39 | scanlime | it can take any unmodified OpenGL app, jam a Python interpreter into its address space, then run your own OpenGL code overlaid on top of its output |
| 04:22.14 | pagefault | sort of what a shader does |
| 04:22.16 | pagefault | only this is python |
| 04:22.29 | purple_cow | not what a shader does :P |
| 04:22.31 | scanlime | eh, not really |
| 04:22.45 | pagefault | well I can inject a shader into any game I want to change the output |
| 04:22.47 | pagefault | if thats what you mean |
| 04:23.15 | pagefault | like there is one that will render anything in ASCII mode |
| 04:23.20 | pagefault | or whatever |
| 04:23.32 | purple_cow | this isn't modifying the output, it's drawing additional stuff on top |
| 04:23.41 | scanlime | purple_cow: it modifies the output when it breaks :) |
| 04:23.48 | purple_cow | scanlime: well, yeah |
| 04:23.52 | purple_cow | but the idea is not to modify it |
| 04:24.39 | pagefault | so what are some uses for this? |
| 04:24.54 | scanlime | well, I wrote it for doing on-screen displays on top of video |
| 04:24.58 | lurgy | http://nat.org/2005/september/search-mockup.png makes me happy |
| 04:25.14 | scanlime | so you can have mplayer running, but using loopy your HTPC software can draw a menu |
| 04:25.31 | purple_cow | or a little bouncing gamecube icon! |
| 04:25.37 | scanlime | :) |
| 04:25.38 | scanlime | yup |
| 04:25.42 | purple_cow | because if there's one thing apple has taught us, it's that bouncing icons are good |
| 04:26.30 | scanlime | nah, the one thing apple has taught us is that it's ok to break any UI guideline as long as you have brushed metal |
| 04:26.41 | purple_cow | oh yes |
| 04:27.00 | scanlime | grf. |
| 04:27.02 | pagefault | fun |
| 04:27.08 | pagefault | brb |
| 04:27.55 | purple_cow | xwd? |
| 04:27.55 | kergoth | man |
| 04:27.58 | kergoth | the movie was fucking sweet. |
| 04:28.09 | kergoth | s/the/that/ |
| 04:28.23 | lurgy | "the world of henry orient" |
| 04:28.35 | scanlime | purple_cow: X window dump |
| 04:28.39 | lurgy | ? |
| 04:28.39 | scanlime | remember those? |
| 04:28.54 | lurgy | lala |
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| 04:28.59 | purple_cow | scanlime: nope |
| 04:30.15 | scanlime | purple_cow: the 'xwd' command, for making screenshots.. |
| 04:30.18 | scanlime | it produces xwd files |
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| 04:30.46 | scanlime | imagemagick wasn't working for some reason... |
| 04:31.03 | kergoth | owwwww what the fuck |
| 04:31.07 | scanlime | http://zero.navi.cx/~micah/loopyff3.jpeg |
| 04:31.08 | kergoth | sharp stabbing pains in my abs |
| 04:31.10 | kergoth | out of nowhere |
| 04:31.27 | purple_cow | scanlime: :D |
| 04:31.36 | kergoth | ugh |
| 04:31.51 | purple_cow | kergoth: obviously you need to stop stabbing yourself in the abs |
| 04:32.02 | scanlime | I think it's time to try more complicated overlay applications on this... the nehe and soya demos run pretty much perfectly on everything I've tested them with |
| 04:32.06 | kergoth | oh is _that_ the problem? |
| 04:32.08 | kergoth | damnit |
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| 04:32.14 | scanlime | except the text in my soya demo flashes when it runs in cube.. not sure why yet |
| 04:32.15 | kergoth | what the fuck |
| 04:32.22 | scanlime | :( |
| 04:32.44 | kergoth | wonder if its just a cramp or something |
| 04:33.36 | scanlime | purple_cow: yes! |
| 04:33.54 | scanlime | purple_cow: you just need a way to embed java in python |
| 04:34.58 | purple_cow | aww, no cube |
| 04:35.05 | scanlime | huh? |
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| 04:35.25 | scanlime | the game or the spinny-widget? |
| 04:35.28 | purple_cow | i tried running nehe-06 with loopy in lg3d |
| 04:35.43 | scanlime | ah |
| 04:35.47 | purple_cow | welp, i should head home |
| 04:35.49 | scanlime | that's sad |
| 04:35.53 | purple_cow | back in a while |
| 04:35.57 | scanlime | see ya |
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| 04:43.52 | lurgy | well, for gosh sakes |
| 04:48.40 | pagefault | go crazy? don't mind if I do! |
| 04:52.28 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10bzflag/src/platform/WinVisual.cxx: PFD Mode that may help SLI |
| 04:52.39 | kergoth | hmm |
| 04:52.53 | kergoth | damnit, i cant remember the name of this band.. |
| 04:52.57 | pagefault | damn this stupid bump on my hand is driving me nuts |
| 04:52.58 | kergoth | shit |
| 04:53.06 | kergoth | i think she was icelandic or something, but not bjork.. |
| 04:53.07 | kergoth | hmm |
| 04:53.17 | kergoth | and i cant find a bunch of my recently acquired tunes :( |
| 04:53.47 | pagefault | aww |
| 04:54.33 | kergoth | damnit |
| 04:55.45 | purple_cow | it smells like fall outside :D |
| 04:58.48 | kergoth | hmm |
| 04:58.50 | kergoth | Sophie197: ping |
| 04:58.56 | pagefault | I dont' get this sodoku thing |
| 04:58.58 | laodamas | s/over/near/ |
| 04:59.42 | pagefault | wikipedia doesn't really explain how to solve them |
| 04:59.48 | purple_cow | pagefault: it's just another silly number game |
| 04:59.59 | pagefault | yeah but I want to play the silly game |
| 05:00.08 | purple_cow | it's not hard |
| 05:00.20 | pagefault | i'm just trying to understand the rules |
| 05:00.40 | purple_cow | digits 1-9 in each row, column and sub-square |
| 05:01.18 | purple_cow | that's really all the rules there are |
| 05:02.07 | pagefault | I need to find a solved puzzle, thats the only way I can understand stuff |
| 05:03.05 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03micah * r8996 10loopy/ (8 files in 3 dirs): Clean up a bit, and add a new demo- a port of the first Soya tutorial. The floating sword overlay you've all wanted for years is finally here! |
| 05:03.24 | kergoth | woot, remembered the band i was looking for |
| 05:03.42 | purple_cow | kergoth: bitch and animal? |
| 05:04.32 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03micah * r8997 10loopy/loopy.c: glClearColor should really default to black, not white |
| 05:04.36 | kergoth | heh, naw. was looking for Anja Garbarek |
| 05:04.45 | scanlime | someday a supersonic squirrel is going to come bolting into my living room |
| 05:04.57 | numist | pagefault: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sodoku has a partially solved, and a great explanation and stuff |
| 05:05.39 | pagefault | yeah |
| 05:05.52 | pagefault | I think this is way easier than I am making it seem |
| 05:05.55 | numist | yep |
| 05:06.18 | purple_cow | kergoth: but you want to look for bitch and animal, right? |
| 05:06.43 | kergoth | not finding it |
| 05:06.50 | kergoth | :( |
| 05:06.54 | pagefault | oh |
| 05:06.55 | pagefault | I get it |
| 05:07.10 | purple_cow | :( |
| 05:07.14 | pagefault | hmm |
| 05:09.32 | pagefault | this is easy |
| 05:10.15 | purple_cow | pagefault: pretty much. some of the difficult ones require figuring out things a lot of numbers in advance before you can write in anything, but they're all solvable |
| 05:10.22 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03micah * r8998 10loopy/ (loopy.c soya-basic1.py soya-particles.py): By default, don't let overlays clear the color buffer. This is trivial to override for overlays that want to, but it's a good default that makes our example apps simpler. |
| 05:10.41 | scanlime | hiya |
| 05:10.51 | scanlime | ChipX86: not locked out any more I take it? |
| 05:10.55 | ChipX86 | no, still am |
| 05:10.59 | scanlime | aw |
| 05:11.12 | numist | aww, chippy's locked out? |
| 05:11.12 | ChipX86 | I'm at VMware |
| 05:11.16 | scanlime | hehe |
| 05:11.19 | numist | howd that happen? |
| 05:11.25 | ChipX86 | numist: i'm a fucking idiot |
| 05:11.30 | numist | ah hah |
| 05:11.41 | scanlime | looked bigger when I couldn't see him! |
| 05:11.52 | numist | Ill act sympathetic anyway, if it helps.. although I usually get in through a window if Ive locked myself out.. had to do it last year |
| 05:12.09 | numist | my house is horribly insecure |
| 05:12.44 | kergoth | ChipX86: ack :( |
| 05:12.52 | kergoth | ChipX86: what are ya gonna do? |
| 05:13.03 | numist | he's probably sleeping at work at this point :P |
| 05:13.13 | kergoth | need a hammock in the office |
| 05:13.37 | scanlime | ooh.. |
| 05:13.37 | ChipX86 | going to work tonight, maybe sleep a little, and then sleep the rest of the day when I get back |
| 05:13.39 | scanlime | I need one of those |
| 05:13.45 | ChipX86 | numist: so here's what happened.. |
| 05:13.53 | numist | yay storytime |
| 05:14.15 | ChipX86 | I was hungry and things were going badly with everything.. laptop was spazzing out more, etc. So I decided to go for Chinese |
| 05:14.28 | ChipX86 | I saw my keys and decided I didn't need them, I was just going to the place next to me |
| 05:14.38 | ChipX86 | then I opened the door, locked it without thinking, and closed it behind me |
| 05:14.49 | ChipX86 | then I grumbled loudly and cursed to myself |
| 05:15.07 | purple_cow | heh |
| 05:15.19 | purple_cow | i've learned to never trust myself when i think i don't need keys |
| 05:15.20 | ChipX86 | so I called the apartment number which forwards to the main office for the company that owns the apartment |
| 05:15.28 | ChipX86 | which is in Texas. |
| 05:15.31 | ChipX86 | and it's evacuated |
| 05:15.33 | numist | its been a long day, hasnt it |
| 05:15.38 | numist | call a locksmith? |
| 05:15.39 | purple_cow | ChipX86: eek |
| 05:15.46 | ChipX86 | fortunately, they changed it to forward to random makeshift places around the US |
| 05:15.51 | ChipX86 | so Missouri, New York, LA, etc |
| 05:16.00 | numist | :o |
| 05:16.04 | ChipX86 | so I got somebody and they said they'd have someone contact me to get me keys |
| 05:16.08 | ChipX86 | waiting for 45 mins.. nothing |
| 05:16.23 | ChipX86 | called again. She explained the process and sent out another thing. ANother hour, and nothing |
| 05:16.28 | ChipX86 | so I called a cab and went to work |
| 05:16.31 | ChipX86 | the process is *bad* |
| 05:16.41 | numist | apparently |
| 05:16.43 | ChipX86 | the person at the place I called sends an *e-mail* to this one other office |
| 05:16.53 | ChipX86 | somebody at that office eventually reads this e-mail and tries to call somebody at the apartment complex |
| 05:16.54 | numist | if I were in town Id drive up there and take you out somewheres to cheer ye, but no luck here |
| 05:16.56 | ChipX86 | two points of failure right there |
| 05:17.09 | numist | yeah.. |
| 05:17.57 | numist | hey, that sounds like a good deal |
| 05:18.14 | scanlime | oog.. I should get to sleep earlyish tonight.. been getting way too little sleep lately |
| 05:18.16 | purple_cow | better than work |
| 05:18.23 | scanlime | that means I'd better puy my laundry in... |
| 05:18.47 | ChipX86 | arghhh |
| 05:18.51 | ChipX86 | all the lights just went out |
| 05:18.55 | purple_cow | hey look, it's jrb day on pgo |
| 05:19.06 | ChipX86 | how the hell do I turn them back on.. |
| 05:19.41 | ChipX86 | and wtf are other people doing here?! |
| 05:19.52 | kergoth | lol |
| 05:19.54 | ChipX86 | crazy people being at work on Sunday night at 10:30.. |
| 05:19.57 | ChipX86 | 20:20 |
| 05:20.01 | ChipX86 | brb |
| 05:20.04 | numist | ChipX86: go out into the hall and jump.. lights at work here are on motion detect |
| 05:20.09 | kergoth | mmm anja garbarek |
| 05:26.35 | kergoth | hehe |
| 05:27.00 | ChipX86 | figured it out :) |
| 05:27.19 | ChipX86 | there's a "Off-hours AC and Lighting Bypass" switch |
| 05:27.20 | numist | ChipX86: hope things work out.. sorry stuff sucks |
| 05:27.29 | scanlime | purple_cow: I had to do that dance all the time at space grant.. |
| 05:27.49 | ChipX86 | s'ok. Sucky weekend. I should have known better than to walk outside my door |
| 05:28.26 | numist | :( |
| 05:28.27 | purple_cow | hah, cool |
| 05:28.50 | purple_cow | glxgears' particular framerate on fembot interacts with the TV's refresh rate to show the gears spinning backwards |
| 05:28.59 | ChipX86 | nice |
| 05:29.01 | scanlime | hehe |
| 05:29.12 | scanlime | you need to sync to VBL |
| 05:29.19 | numist | for that many people, it seems jrb is the only one with any posts... |
| 05:29.25 | numist | isnt chippy on pgo? |
| 05:29.28 | purple_cow | it's less fun that way |
| 05:29.30 | ChipX86 | I are |
| 05:29.33 | purple_cow | numist: aggregation problem |
| 05:29.38 | numist | ah |
| 05:29.40 | purple_cow | he probably moved his blog and all the dates got screwed up |
| 05:29.53 | purple_cow | aw, no longer |
| 05:29.56 | numist | yeah, all the posts have the same date.. his feed is probably flawed |
| 05:30.07 | ChipX86 | no longer? still screwy here |
| 05:30.11 | purple_cow | looks like the load changed, and now they're just spinning really slowly despite >500 FHz |
| 05:30.14 | ChipX86 | oh |
| 05:30.31 | purple_cow | really weird to see it completely unflickery though |
| 05:31.15 | purple_cow | i guess the TV out has some extra buffer that's preventing tearing |
| 05:31.36 | ChipX86 | no speakers |
| 05:31.47 | numist | no headphones? |
| 05:31.52 | ChipX86 | my headphones just broke |
| 05:31.56 | kergoth | :( |
| 05:31.56 | numist | :( |
| 05:32.09 | numist | you *are* having a rough time of things |
| 05:32.36 | ChipX86 | if they didn't break, I can guarantee you they would have been left in the apartment |
| 05:33.01 | numist | well sowwy.. Im off to bed.. rest up a bi |
| 05:33.03 | numist | bit* |
| 05:33.08 | ChipX86 | g'night |
| 05:33.11 | numist | or call a locksmith.. they can get you in no problem |
| 05:33.23 | ChipX86 | they'd want proof that I lived there |
| 05:33.26 | ChipX86 | which I don't have on me |
| 05:33.37 | ChipX86 | and last time I called one, it was ~$100 |
| 05:33.40 | numist | tell em its inside, or have a neighbour vouch for you.. worked with my neighbour |
| 05:33.47 | numist | they locked themselves out recently as well |
| 05:33.52 | ChipX86 | I don't know my neighbors |
| 05:33.57 | numist | ouch |
| 05:33.58 | ChipX86 | the ones below me are assholes |
| 05:34.16 | ChipX86 | the ones to the right and above me are very reserved asian families who do not even look at me |
| 05:34.24 | ChipX86 | especially the wives. If I say hi, they hurry away |
| 05:34.30 | ChipX86 | so, neighbors won't help |
| 05:35.03 | numist | I have bills inside my place... |
| 05:35.50 | purple_cow | http://david.navi.cx/tmp/project-loopy-glass.png |
| 05:36.22 | ChipX86 | mwahaha, regis has speakers |
| 05:36.30 | scanlime | purple_cow: sweeeet |
| 05:36.34 | ChipX86 | nice! |
| 05:36.35 | scanlime | what did you have to change? |
| 05:36.51 | kergoth | mm, poe |
| 05:37.26 | pagefault | hmm |
| 05:37.29 | pagefault | this is addictive now |
| 05:37.32 | purple_cow | for some reason it was using the wrong loopy module for the builtin |
| 05:37.33 | pagefault | but silly |
| 05:37.44 | scanlime | huh |
| 05:37.50 | purple_cow | dunno why or how |
| 05:37.57 | purple_cow | but installing loopy into my site-packages fixed it |
| 05:38.23 | purple_cow | gets some rendering errors with soya-basic1 |
| 05:39.12 | scanlime | hrm. you should definitely not have to have loopy in site-packages |
| 05:39.29 | scanlime | the "import loopy" won't actually load loopy.so, since it's already registered itself internally as a builtin |
| 05:47.42 | ChipX86 | ok, Yuki is still working too, but from home |
| 05:52.15 | ChipX86 | ok, streaming isn't working for some reason. Radio stations it is |
| 05:56.29 | ChipX86 | argh |
| 05:56.37 | ChipX86 | sshgate's going to do its nightly reboot in a few |
| 05:57.41 | purple_cow | poor ChipX86 :( |
| 05:57.49 | ChipX86 | hopefully i'll be back soon |
| 06:01.20 | ChipX86 | yay, back |
| 06:01.23 | ChipX86 | that wasn't too bad |
| 06:02.58 | ChipX86 | silly Thunderbird, using Control-S for send and Alt-S for subject |
| 06:05.57 | scanlime | careful purple_cow, I think that icon in the bottom-left might be poisonous |
| 06:06.03 | scanlime | er, bottom-right |
| 06:06.10 | ToyKeeper | Laser dolphins. |
| 06:06.17 | ToyKeeper | Er, poison-dart dolphins. |
| 06:06.21 | purple_cow | actually it's the best icon in the whole desktop environment |
| 06:06.25 | ChipX86 | yay, laser dolphins! |
| 06:06.25 | purple_cow | quit :) |
| 06:06.30 | scanlime | :) |
| 06:06.41 | ToyKeeper | ... are supposedly loose near new orleans. |
| 06:06.46 | ChipX86 | oh those |
| 06:06.46 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 06:07.01 | ChipX86 | it's sounding more and more like a sci-fi |
| 06:07.14 | purple_cow | we should make a made-for-tv movie about it! |
| 06:07.23 | ChipX86 | a once famous city that has sunk and is being guarded by killer dolphins equipped with lasers |
| 06:07.28 | ChipX86 | sounds just right for the Sci-Fi channel |
| 06:07.47 | purple_cow | terrorists capture super-sekret military dolphins, and three unsuspecting teenagers have to capture them before they destroy america |
| 06:07.54 | ChipX86 | haha |
| 06:08.02 | ChipX86 | teenagers can always stop terrorists |
| 06:09.12 | scanlime | yes sir cap'n tight pants! |
| 06:19.32 | scanlime | hehe |
| 06:19.35 | scanlime | "# Please forget about my bad English ! Enjoy Soya ! |
| 06:19.35 | scanlime | # |
| 06:19.35 | scanlime | # Your teacher, Jiba" |
| 06:22.04 | purple_cow | heh |
| 06:22.14 | purple_cow | good lord there's a lot of code in loopy.c |
| 06:22.28 | scanlime | :) |
| 06:23.17 | scanlime | ooh, a xine bug |
| 06:23.45 | scanlime | when you zoom the video with the 'z' key, the mouse no longer lines up with DVD menus properly |
| 06:23.54 | scanlime | it still thinks the buttons are in their unzoomed positions |
| 06:26.07 | ChipX86 | hope I can stay up all night |
| 06:28.43 | purple_cow | scanlime: how would i figure out what gl call was messing up the drawing? |
| 06:29.09 | scanlime | what kind of messing up? |
| 06:29.33 | scanlime | a lot of times I'll just start commenting things out or disabling tracking/restore flags until the problem goes away |
| 06:29.44 | scanlime | it can be a pain to debug |
| 06:30.04 | scanlime | you an also inspect the saved OpenGL state that loopy keeps |
| 06:30.11 | scanlime | try help(loopy.GLState) |
| 06:30.36 | purple_cow | http://david.navi.cx/tmp/bad.png |
| 06:30.42 | purple_cow | then mousing over an icon causes it to disappear entirely |
| 06:31.08 | scanlime | ooh weird... |
| 06:31.27 | scanlime | maybe a depth buffer problem? hard to say |
| 06:31.31 | purple_cow | could be |
| 06:31.42 | scanlime | one debug trick I'll use when the target app is messing up the overlay is to run the target in ltrace |
| 06:31.52 | purple_cow | nehe-06 runs flawlessly, soya-particles runs but the lights are messed up and the "wasabi" text disappears as soon as the icons start to fly in |
| 06:31.53 | scanlime | usually "ltrace -l /usr/lib/libGL.so foo" |
| 06:32.14 | scanlime | hmm |
| 06:32.25 | scanlime | yeah.. just sounds like some opengl state loopy isn't tracking |
| 06:32.40 | scanlime | the tracker is still pretty minimal |
| 06:33.07 | scanlime | I saw some similar problems with the 'lattice' rss-glx screensaver actually |
| 06:33.23 | scanlime | looked almost like the depth test was backwards and some of the textures were screwed up |
| 06:33.25 | purple_cow | hrm |
| 06:33.29 | purple_cow | where do i get ltrace? |
| 06:33.35 | scanlime | loopy doesn't track depthfunc or any of that yet |
| 06:33.36 | scanlime | emerge ltrace? |
| 06:34.02 | purple_cow | sigh, right when my /usr/portage is broken =P |
| 06:34.08 | scanlime | aw |
| 06:34.14 | scanlime | shouldn't be hard to compile yourself |
| 06:34.44 | scanlime | it's handy, and is much crazier about dynamic linker hacking than I've ever been ;) |
| 06:35.21 | scanlime | IIRC it sets breakpoints at all the process' PLT entries then runs it under ptrace |
| 06:36.20 | purple_cow | guh, so much for standardized buildsystems |
| 06:36.33 | purple_cow | oh, there it is |
| 06:37.36 | purple_cow | sweet! |
| 06:37.43 | purple_cow | david@kirby ~/projects/lg3d/bin $ ltrace /usr/lib/libGL.so ./lg3d-dev |
| 06:37.43 | purple_cow | --- SIGSEGV (Segmentation fault) --- |
| 06:37.43 | purple_cow | +++ killed by SIGSEGV +++ |
| 06:37.53 | scanlime | wow |
| 06:37.58 | scanlime | oh |
| 06:38.01 | scanlime | you forgot -l |
| 06:38.09 | scanlime | it's trying to run libGL.so, with lg3d-dev as its argument |
| 06:38.12 | purple_cow | cool! |
| 06:38.29 | purple_cow | goddamnit |
| 06:38.41 | purple_cow | of course, lg3d-dev is a shell script |
| 06:38.47 | scanlime | try ltrace -f |
| 06:39.04 | purple_cow | ahh, cool |
| 06:39.07 | scanlime | still, even if this works it's going to give you a lot of output |
| 06:39.18 | purple_cow | err, still no love |
| 06:39.28 | scanlime | -f is flaky |
| 06:39.39 | scanlime | you might have to find the real binary and run that yourself |
| 06:47.24 | purple_cow | hmm |
| 06:47.34 | purple_cow | i seem to remember learner and dtr playing with something like that |
| 06:48.04 | scanlime | hmmm |
| 06:48.10 | scanlime | glplanet is exposing some interesting bugs |
| 06:48.24 | scanlime | mostly lighting it looks like |
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| 06:49.16 | alm262 | hrm. |
| 06:49.45 | scanlime | purple_cow: shouldn't be too hard to make a code generator that reads gl.h and outputs a bunch of dlsym() and fprintf() gook |
| 06:50.25 | scanlime | hehe |
| 06:50.47 | scanlime | ooh, that's weird |
| 06:50.57 | scanlime | running soya-basic1 in bzflag, the sword isn't centered in the screen |
| 06:51.03 | scanlime | it's centered on the message area |
| 06:51.30 | scanlime | and of course lighting is screwed up |
| 06:51.34 | scanlime | loopy isn't tracking lights at all |
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| 06:52.40 | ChipX86 | heh |
| 06:52.43 | ChipX86 | Surendra was just here |
| 06:52.46 | alm262 | hey ChipX86 |
| 06:52.50 | alm262 | how's it going? |
| 06:52.51 | ChipX86 | offered me a place to stay for the night, but now I want to work |
| 06:52.52 | ChipX86 | hi |
| 06:52.53 | ChipX86 | haha |
| 06:52.56 | ChipX86 | funny question |
| 06:53.20 | alm262 | oh? |
| 06:53.32 | ChipX86 | http://www.chipx86.com/blog/ |
| 06:53.34 | ChipX86 | easier than repeating it all |
| 06:54.59 | scanlime | purple_cow: hmm, bzflag is coming out all black&white and stuff, even with the nehe cube... didn't used to do this |
| 06:57.15 | alm262 | ChipX86: sorry to hear that... At my apartment I always just used the deadbolt to avoid that issue... hehe |
| 06:57.48 | ChipX86 | need a good stream, hmm |
| 06:58.17 | scanlime | haha |
| 06:58.43 | scanlime | purple_cow: I tried running the cube on bzflag with texture tracking off.. I got a big translucent rotating cube of letters. It looks like someething from a bad sci-fi movie |
| 07:00.03 | alm262 | ChipX86: so, I'm curious, is vmware currently looking for people, I got dropped an email today from them. |
| 07:00.11 | ChipX86 | always |
| 07:00.17 | alm262 | hehe, cool |
| 07:00.25 | ChipX86 | it sucks here! They whip us and beat us |
| 07:00.49 | purple_cow | scanlime: http://bugle.sourceforge.net/ |
| 07:00.50 | kergoth | they even make them come in on sunday evenings! crazy |
| 07:00.54 | ChipX86 | yeah :( |
| 07:00.57 | ChipX86 | I have to stay the night! |
| 07:01.22 | kergoth | and not even a hammock! |
| 07:01.26 | ChipX86 | I should so get one |
| 07:01.34 | ChipX86 | going to use the couches in the kitchen by the TV I think |
| 07:01.35 | scanlime | purple_cow: oh, nice |
| 07:03.19 | scanlime | oh. damnit. |
| 07:03.22 | scanlime | I didn't break bzflag support |
| 07:03.31 | scanlime | it's all dark and gray because it's night time in bzflag-land |
| 07:03.33 | alm262 | ChipX86: anyway, I'm working at rpath now which is cool. :) |
| 07:03.38 | ChipX86 | cool |
| 07:03.41 | scanlime | a few pokes to "+" and it works fine |
| 07:03.44 | purple_cow | scanlime: hehe |
| 07:03.54 | alm262 | ChipX86: don't think I'd want to move to CA, even if they were crazy enough to hire me! |
| 07:04.05 | ChipX86 | VMware rocks though |
| 07:04.10 | ChipX86 | just ask scanlime |
| 07:04.23 | alm262 | scanlime: working at VMWare also? |
| 07:05.34 | alm262 | this libview stuff is pretty cool, pitty it's not in straight C |
| 07:05.55 | ChipX86 | alm262: we use C++ here though |
| 07:06.00 | ChipX86 | people are welcome to make C ports |
| 07:06.04 | ChipX86 | WS 5.5 will be libview-based |
| 07:06.46 | alm262 | it'd be really cool if GTK widgets in different languages could mingle together better |
| 07:07.18 | purple_cow | they can't? |
| 07:08.36 | alm262 | now, you go and make me doubt my picture of how things work. :/ |
| 07:08.50 | ChipX86 | if you use gtkmm, you can easily wrap any C widget |
| 07:08.58 | ChipX86 | well, providing bindings isn't that fun |
| 07:09.02 | ChipX86 | but I mean in your own apps |
| 07:09.17 | ChipX86 | but of course C can't use C++ code |
| 07:09.22 | alm262 | right |
| 07:09.38 | purple_cow | well, it can't use any of the member functions |
| 07:09.53 | purple_cow | but if you use properties correctly, you could still theoretically use the widget completely through the GObject interface |
| 07:10.07 | alm262 | really? |
| 07:10.09 | alm262 | hmm |
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| 07:10.21 | purple_cow | it'd be a bit of a pain |
| 07:11.11 | purple_cow | and if the widget didn't use properties for everything, you might have inaccessible functionality |
| 07:14.37 | scanlime | the movie recorder stuff in bugle looks kinda cute |
| 07:14.48 | scanlime | you should be able to use loopy to do that also :) |
| 07:16.33 | scanlime | it would definitely be possible to rewrite loopy as a filter for bugle |
| 07:16.49 | scanlime | though that would be really heavyweight compared to what loopy is doing... |
| 07:18.59 | ChipX86 | oohhh |
| 07:19.08 | ChipX86 | I have a bit of music on this computer that I forgot I had |
| 07:22.55 | ChipX86 | crap, how and when did this break.. |
| 07:24.16 | scanlime | heh, loopy and bugle don't like each other |
| 07:24.25 | purple_cow | grmph |
| 07:24.31 | purple_cow | lg3d and bugle don't like each other :P |
| 07:24.49 | ChipX86 | grumble. vmware and libview don't like each other |
| 07:26.56 | scanlime | heh |
| 07:30.59 | ChipX86 | I can't figure out what it's doing |
| 07:32.55 | purple_cow | maybe you need to add glDepthFunc to the tracker? |
| 07:33.01 | scanlime | I just did that |
| 07:33.04 | scanlime | no love |
| 07:33.21 | purple_cow | hmm |
| 07:34.19 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03micah * r8999 10loopy/loopy.c: Add glDepthFunc to the tracker, but this doesn't seem to fix the reversed Z order in lattice |
| 07:34.48 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03micah * r9000 10loopy/loopy.c: Oops, remove a glEnable(GL_DEPTH_TEST) leftover from debugging... |
| 07:34.49 | scanlime | I should sleep... |
| 07:34.55 | ChipX86 | :( |
| 07:35.12 | ChipX86 | I want to go back home |
| 07:35.17 | purple_cow | ooh, 9000 |
| 07:36.23 | ChipX86 | wtf, this isn't libview's fault. something broke on main |
| 07:38.51 | ChipX86 | hah |
| 07:39.00 | ChipX86 | helps if I run the binary I actually compiled |
| 07:39.15 | scanlime | ooh, 9000 indeed |
| 07:39.52 | ChipX86 | I keep feeling like someone is going to come in here and tell me to keep the music down |
| 07:40.53 | ChipX86 | woot! |
| 07:41.02 | ChipX86 | success |
| 07:41.25 | scanlime | hehe, reminds me of working late at space grant |
| 07:41.41 | scanlime | sometimes there are other people in the DLC at 3 AM, but their music is just as loud |
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| 07:43.42 | scanlime | I should run oprofile on this whole mess at some point |
| 07:44.03 | scanlime | occasionally you can see it getting CPU-limited when running the particles on top of a DVD |
| 07:46.08 | purple_cow | i remember talking to the l3d folks once, and asking if the music we played while working late at night bothered them, and we tested it, and then they wanted to test to make sure their music didn't bother us :) |
| 07:46.27 | ChipX86 | haha |
| 07:46.42 | scanlime | :) |
| 07:48.26 | scanlime | g'night folks |
| 07:48.51 | ChipX86 | g'night |
| 07:58.42 | ChipX86 | o/~ You on my skin, this must be the end. The only way you can love me is to hurt me again, and again, and again, and again.. o/~ |
| 08:17.05 | ChipX86 | oh no, Planet Gman |
| 08:17.22 | purple_cow | hehe |
| 08:17.53 | ChipX86 | hah, James reads my blog, apparently often enough that he's already noticed I'm locked out of my apartment |
| 08:18.04 | ChipX86 | he's on vmware irc and talking to me about it :P |
| 08:21.10 | ChipX86 | p5 opened|wc -l |
| 08:21.10 | ChipX86 | 63 |
| 08:21.14 | ChipX86 | this will be fun to get reviewed |
| 08:59.54 | ChipX86 | it gets lonely around here at 2 in the morning |
| 09:01.01 | purple_cow | :( |
| 09:01.17 | ChipX86 | "Fix what I broke to fix what I broke to fix what was broken." |
| 09:01.26 | ChipX86 | yay for comments from vmware people on our quips page |
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| 09:40.22 | CIA-5 | galago: 03chipx86 * r2164 10web/htdocs/releases: Forgot to point to the 0.2.2 release of libnotify and notification-daemon. Fixed. |
| 09:52.35 | ChipX86 | must stop using python syntax in C++ code |
| 09:54.54 | purple_cow | hehe |
| 09:55.13 | purple_cow | whenever i'm switching between languages i find colons in my C and semicolons in my python |
| 09:55.17 | ChipX86 | :) |
| 09:55.22 | ChipX86 | that's the problem I'm having.. colons |
| 09:55.27 | ChipX86 | void foo(): |
| 10:05.39 | purple_cow | at least the compiler finds those for you |
| 10:05.51 | purple_cow | i'll sometimes find semicolons in python i wrote months ago :) |
| 10:05.57 | ChipX86 | haha |
| 10:08.20 | ChipX86 | I can probably leave in 4 or 5 hours |
| 10:09.55 | ChipX86 | I'm nuts |
| 10:10.07 | ChipX86 | this is going to throw me off for the rest of the week |
| 10:11.53 | purple_cow | yay! |
| 10:12.03 | ChipX86 | yay being nuts? |
| 10:12.25 | purple_cow | sure |
| 10:12.30 | ChipX86 | oh. yay! |
| 10:13.11 | purple_cow | oof, way past bedtime |
| 10:13.15 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 10:13.18 | ChipX86 | what are you doing up? |
| 10:14.15 | purple_cow | i really don't know |
| 10:14.15 | ChipX86 | g'night :) |
| 10:14.16 | ChipX86 | and then there was one. |
| 10:30.06 | Sophie197 | hi |
| 10:30.09 | ChipX86 | hey |
| 10:30.15 | ChipX86 | what are you doing awake? |
| 10:30.27 | Sophie197 | got work at 8 |
| 10:30.29 | ChipX86 | oh |
| 10:30.38 | ChipX86 | right, it's, what, 6:30 there? |
| 10:30.44 | Sophie197 | yep |
| 10:30.50 | ChipX86 | lucky |
| 10:31.02 | Sophie197 | why is that lucky? |
| 10:31.09 | ChipX86 | it's 03:30 here |
| 10:31.25 | ChipX86 | been at work since 22:00 |
| 10:31.31 | Sophie197 | go to sleep, you should |
| 10:31.38 | ChipX86 | I would if I had a place eto go |
| 10:31.43 | Sophie197 | tired, you must be |
| 10:31.45 | ChipX86 | my keys are in my apartment |
| 10:31.48 | ChipX86 | hence me being here |
| 10:31.54 | Sophie197 | ack |
| 10:32.15 | Sophie197 | how'd you lock your apartment without your keys? |
| 10:32.24 | ChipX86 | I turned the lock and shut the door |
| 10:32.38 | ChipX86 | just moments after looking at my keys and thinking, "I don't need those, I'm only stepping outside for a couple of minutes" |
| 10:32.43 | ChipX86 | it's been a bad weekend |
| 10:33.26 | ChipX86 | thanks |
| 10:33.31 | Sophie197 | it's been bad for us too |
| 10:33.37 | ChipX86 | :( what's wrong? |
| 10:33.39 | Sophie197 | no running water kindof blows. |
| 10:33.42 | ChipX86 | ick |
| 10:33.51 | ChipX86 | that sucks |
| 10:33.55 | Sophie197 | yeah |
| 10:34.12 | Sophie197 | people coming to our house today to repipe it. |
| 10:34.27 | Sophie197 | so hopefully we'll have water by tonight |
| 10:34.42 | Sophie197 | going to call a locksmith? |
| 10:35.15 | ChipX86 | nope |
| 10:35.18 | rioter | kick the door in |
| 10:35.19 | rioter | ! |
| 10:35.25 | rioter | or train a ferret to open your door |
| 10:35.26 | ChipX86 | the apartment manager can get me keys |
| 10:35.28 | ChipX86 | but I couldn't reach them |
| 10:35.41 | ChipX86 | it's a long complicated process involving everyone being terrificly stupid |
| 10:35.59 | Sophie197 | bluh |
| 10:36.06 | Sophie197 | :( |
| 10:36.19 | ChipX86 | and part of the reason why none of it is working is because of Rita |
| 10:36.34 | ChipX86 | and also because they're all just stupid, as I mentioned, and are using e-mail for instant emergency notifications |
| 10:36.38 | Sophie197 | I had this crazy dream about a guy I had a crush on in high school |
| 10:36.45 | ChipX86 | uh oh |
| 10:36.45 | rioter | arnt you a few thousand miles away from where rita struck? |
| 10:37.12 | ChipX86 | rioter: my apartment complex is owned by a bigger company. Their main office is in Texas. They're all evacuated and have set up other offices in the US as temporary support stations for apartments |
| 10:37.15 | Sophie197 | yeah. He's the only guy who totally rejected me. |
| 10:37.22 | rioter | ChipX86 ah ok |
| 10:37.43 | ChipX86 | if you call the number, you get a random one, and they send an emergency e-mail (if you're locked out) to some other random office, and that office leaves a voice mail at the apartment complex |
| 10:37.48 | ChipX86 | so there are many points of failure |
| 10:37.50 | ChipX86 | Sophie197: wtf |
| 10:37.53 | Sophie197 | wow. |
| 10:37.56 | ChipX86 | Sophie197: was he blind, or gay? |
| 10:38.17 | Sophie197 | neither.. |
| 10:38.23 | ChipX86 | ah, insane |
| 10:38.32 | ChipX86 | why did he reject you? |
| 10:38.41 | Sophie197 | what pissed me off was that he then went to prom with this chubby chick with a wandering eye |
| 10:38.49 | Sophie197 | her parents were rich though |
| 10:38.53 | ChipX86 | heh, so he had, um, different tastes? |
| 10:38.56 | ChipX86 | ah. |
| 10:39.22 | Sophie197 | beats me. I had a crush on him 6th grade, and 10th - 12th. |
| 10:40.17 | Sophie197 | I had a friend ask him about me, and he said something like "no chance in hell" |
| 10:40.28 | ChipX86 | as in he has no chance, or you? |
| 10:40.37 | Sophie197 | me, I guess |
| 10:40.44 | ChipX86 | weird.. |
| 10:41.16 | Sophie197 | so he pops up every once in awhile in my dreams |
| 10:41.24 | ChipX86 | :/ |
| 10:41.30 | Sophie197 | and then I try to impress him without seeming desperate. |
| 10:41.48 | Sophie197 | anyway |
| 10:42.15 | Sophie197 | take a nice long shower or bath when you get back home |
| 10:42.28 | ChipX86 | yeah.. |
| 10:42.32 | Sophie197 | and then sleeeep an extra hour for me too :) |
| 10:42.35 | ChipX86 | I plan to work as long as possible tonight |
| 10:42.36 | ChipX86 | ok :) |
| 10:42.46 | ChipX86 | my goal is to be awake and coding all night long |
| 10:42.51 | ChipX86 | and completely kill myself |
| 10:43.19 | Sophie197 | aww |
| 10:43.35 | Sophie197 | don't kill yourself |
| 10:43.39 | rioter | sounds ah fun |
| 10:43.48 | ChipX86 | well, I won't actually kill myself |
| 10:43.56 | ChipX86 | I mean I'm going to be absolutely dead tired and screwed up for a few days |
| 10:44.23 | ChipX86 | just got to make it through the week so I can see Jamie |
| 10:44.41 | Sophie197 | yay :) |
| 10:45.05 | Sophie197 | Keysersoze & I have thought about moving to boulder |
| 10:45.09 | ChipX86 | cool |
| 10:45.15 | ChipX86 | don't like Florida? |
| 10:45.19 | Sophie197 | once I have my degree & we can afford cost of living |
| 10:45.36 | Sophie197 | it's OK. |
| 10:45.47 | Sophie197 | but he was very impressed with Boulder |
| 10:46.08 | ChipX86 | I need to meet all of you at some point |
| 10:46.16 | Sophie197 | must be beautiful there. |
| 10:46.33 | Sophie197 | I told him to take me next time his work sends him there. |
| 10:46.37 | ChipX86 | :) |
| 10:47.00 | ChipX86 | if I ever have a free weekend and cash to blow on a plane ticket, I'd like to visit Boulder |
| 10:49.15 | Sophie197 | we could have a #tacobeam family reunion there |
| 10:49.18 | ChipX86 | yay :) |
| 10:49.49 | Sophie197 | ugh, must prepare for work |
| 10:50.01 | ChipX86 | wonder what my co-workers are going to think when they see code review requests coming in at 4 in the morning |
| 10:50.28 | Sophie197 | they will think that you're uber-coder-guy |
| 10:50.39 | ChipX86 | heh |
| 10:50.42 | ChipX86 | right :P |
| 10:51.10 | Sophie[work] | bbl! |
| 10:51.12 | ChipX86 | cya :) |
| 10:51.16 | ChipX86 | have a good day |
| 10:51.23 | Sophie[work] | you too (try) |
| 10:51.50 | ChipX86 | will try |
| 12:03.45 | ChipX86 | 7 hours and counting! |
| 12:04.01 | ChipX86 | I could go another y! |
| 12:04.03 | ChipX86 | er, 7! |
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| 12:54.39 | ChipX86 | hi prpplague |
| 12:55.36 | prpplague | hola |
| 12:58.23 | ChipX86 | I'm wired |
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| 13:43.44 | prpplague | ChipX86: i'm stressed/depressed |
| 14:01.14 | ChipX86 | :/ |
| 14:20.43 | lurgy | http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/3233833.stm |
| 14:20.49 | lurgy | oughta make you feel better |
| 14:28.53 | ChipX86 | at some point I should sleep |
| 14:32.24 | lurgy | no |
| 14:32.34 | kergoth | bleh |
| 14:32.50 | file[laptop] | today has to be a good day or else I will go insane |
| 14:34.59 | ChipX86 | why not just go insane anyway? |
| 14:35.02 | ChipX86 | that's my plan |
| 14:35.11 | ChipX86 | now that I'm going to hit 24 hours of being awake |
| 14:35.18 | file[laptop] | 24 hours? what have you done? |
| 14:43.30 | ChipX86 | I've been working at VMware for the past 8 hours |
| 14:48.48 | ChipX86 | wow |
| 14:48.51 | ChipX86 | it got light outside |
| 14:48.55 | ChipX86 | night is really not as long as it seems |
| 14:50.43 | ChipX86 | bah I hate this bug so much |
| 15:02.55 | ChipX86 | 22 hours |
| 15:03.04 | ChipX86 | 10 hours at VMware |
| 15:05.52 | kergoth | :( |
| 15:07.34 | ChipX86 | starting to feel sickly exhausted |
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| 15:08.11 | ChipX86 | hey cae |
| 15:08.16 | Cae | hey :) |
| 15:08.23 | Cae | we didn't even get 1/4 inch of rain. |
| 15:08.27 | ChipX86 | good :) |
| 15:09.20 | ChipX86 | ugh |
| 15:09.28 | ChipX86 | if you guys never hear frmo me again, I've collapsed of exhaustion |
| 15:09.36 | ChipX86 | from |
| 15:09.38 | ChipX86 | something |
| 15:09.43 | Cae | okay..sleep well..? |
| 15:09.48 | ChipX86 | can't sleep |
| 15:09.53 | ChipX86 | still can't get in to apartment |
| 15:09.55 | ChipX86 | still at work |
| 15:09.57 | Cae | ah |
| 15:10.19 | ChipX86 | 10 hours and counting |
| 15:10.23 | ChipX86 | 22 hours awake |
| 15:12.32 | gonkulator | ChipX86: why can't you get into the apartment? |
| 15:12.37 | ChipX86 | locked myself out |
| 15:12.40 | ChipX86 | i'm an idiot |
| 15:12.45 | ChipX86 | see http://www.chipx86.com/blog/ |
| 15:15.13 | ChipX86 | I can get back in in another hour probably |
| 15:15.16 | ChipX86 | will go home in an hour |
| 15:16.54 | gonkulator | ah, ok |
| 15:21.05 | gonkulator | howdy file[laptop] |
| 15:21.09 | gonkulator | file even |
| 15:21.37 | file | how are you doing? |
| 15:22.06 | file | oh no! |
| 15:23.03 | gonkulator | how are you file? |
| 15:23.53 | file | welp yesterday was incredibly evil, but I'm not doing too bad today |
| 15:25.41 | gonkulator | evil, you say? |
| 15:25.48 | file | quite |
| 15:26.00 | gonkulator | how so? |
| 15:26.21 | file | it was cold, dreery, drab, uneventful, crazy, sickening |
| 15:26.34 | gonkulator | you know... I am taking a class on what exactly evil is |
| 15:27.25 | ChipX86 | evil is kicking puppies, and feeding children to angry ducks |
| 15:27.35 | gonkulator | evil is a privation of good, in as much as how the substance lacks from what the form is |
| 15:28.25 | gonkulator | how are you Cae |
| 15:28.48 | gonkulator | erm, not substance, but matter |
| 15:28.59 | rioter | so anti-matter is evil? |
| 15:29.06 | Cae | rioter: indeed |
| 15:29.10 | file | what a riot! |
| 15:29.12 | Cae | gonkulator: I am well. |
| 15:29.15 | gonkulator | this is matter in the classical sense |
| 15:29.22 | gonkulator | so anti-matter is also matter, if that matters |
| 15:29.34 | file | my throat is getting sore, I think I am indeed getting sick |
| 15:29.35 | gonkulator | and anti-matter isn't a privation of matter |
| 15:29.49 | gonkulator | we try to a-void that as a general rule :) |
| 15:30.54 | gonkulator | Cae: I'm glad to hear that you're well |
| 15:41.18 | ChipX86 | nice to know that people are amused by my story here |
| 15:43.35 | gonkulator | ChipX86: are you back in yet? |
| 15:43.42 | ChipX86 | I'm still at work |
| 15:43.46 | ChipX86 | approaching hour 11 of working |
| 15:43.51 | ChipX86 | I'm nearing 2 days of work |
| 15:43.55 | ChipX86 | well not really |
| 15:44.04 | ChipX86 | well two of my days maybe |
| 15:56.22 | ChipX86 | heh, my manager thought I got stuck at work and couldn't get home :P |
| 15:56.40 | ChipX86 | I didn't mention the whole locking myself out in the first e-mail |
| 15:56.58 | file | "Christian, you've been here too long - go home before I kick you out." |
| 15:57.41 | ChipX86 | I e-mailed her back and told the whole story (well, most of it) and mentioned the 11 hours of work |
| 15:57.47 | ChipX86 | she may just kick me out ;) |
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| 15:58.51 | kergoth | bleh |
| 16:04.09 | ChipX86 | hah, her response is funny |
| 16:04.24 | ChipX86 | "Oh no!!! Were the buses at least still running, or did you have to walk to work? That's awful!" |
| 16:06.40 | darth_mall | yay! learning about design patterns that I learned about last spring! >< |
| 16:14.14 | Cae | back later on |
| 16:14.55 | darth_mall | well, Daniel's not dead. He just walked into class |
| 16:15.08 | ChipX86 | cool. who? |
| 16:15.24 | darth_mall | our mysterious 4th group member for senior project |
| 16:15.31 | darth_mall | we haven't heard from in a week or more |
| 16:15.37 | CIA-5 | spacegrant: 03dkuester * r1717 10science/ (23 files in 2 dirs): sigh... |
| 16:15.42 | darth_mall | hi lurgy |
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| 16:17.54 | darth_mall | hi lurgy|work |
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| 16:19.04 | lurgy|work | hi darth_mall |
| 16:19.05 | CIA-5 | spacegrant: 03dkuester * r1718 10science/sbdart/ (README rt.doc sbout.1 sbout.2 sbout.3 sbout.4 sbout.5): |
| 16:19.06 | CIA-5 | spacegrant: the nice people from santa barbara included some sample output files, but we really don't need to keep those. |
| 16:19.06 | CIA-5 | spacegrant: also 'rt.doc' wasn't a word document, and i had no idea what 'rt meant. so now it's a README. hurray. |
| 16:20.17 | kergoth | man, i so love netfilter |
| 16:21.15 | CIA-5 | spacegrant: 03dkuester * r1719 10science/sbdart/ (README doc/ doc/README): and it's not even a README, really |
| 16:21.38 | CIA-5 | spacegrant: 03dkuester * r1720 10science/sbdart/doc/ (README input.txt): ...so, it's called input.txt now |
| 16:24.45 | CIA-5 | spacegrant: 03dkuester * r1721 10science/sbdart/Makefile: Use Intel's ifort nonsense, instead of other nonsense |
| 16:29.39 | ChipX86 | heh, Jocelyn walks in |
| 16:29.41 | ChipX86 | "go home!" |
| 16:30.12 | file | I'm psychic! |
| 16:30.22 | kergoth | hehe |
| 16:31.19 | pagefault | I am trying to do work but this cat keep walking all over me |
| 16:32.29 | CIA-5 | spacegrant: 03dkuester * r1722 10science/sbdart/ (8 files in 3 dirs): fortran files should not be executable. actually, fortran files shouldn't be, but that's a whole different bag of potatoes. |
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| 16:34.14 | CIA-5 | spacegrant: 03dkuester * r1723 10science/sbdart/ (scripts/test_runs.sh test_runs.sh): |
| 16:34.14 | CIA-5 | spacegrant: Lines of python in trunk: 41646 |
| 16:34.14 | CIA-5 | spacegrant: Lines of fortran in trunk: 37760 |
| 16:34.14 | CIA-5 | spacegrant: Take that, fortran, YOU LOSE! |
| 16:35.09 | file | pagefault: hail! |
| 16:35.16 | darth_mall | lurgy|work: hehe |
| 16:39.23 | lurgy|work | =] |
| 16:40.57 | CIA-5 | spacegrant: 03dkuester * r1724 10science/sbdart/ (6 files in 3 dirs): THINGS I LEARNED FROM SBDART: DESCRIPTIVE BITS OF COMMENTS SHOULD BE IN CAPS. THAT WAY IT LOOKS REALLY IMPORTANT AND COOL. |
| 16:44.15 | darth_mall | hahaha |
| 16:44.34 | darth_mall | lurgy|work: you're my favorite |
| 16:45.23 | lurgy|work | hehe |
| 16:45.27 | lurgy|work | this is quickly becoming a fork |
| 16:45.34 | scanlime | hehehe |
| 16:45.35 | lurgy|work | which means i get to come up with a smartass new name for it |
| 16:47.43 | kergoth | man, open source makes me happy. |
| 16:47.55 | kergoth | i've got a need at work. i google. i find something thats already in my kernel that meets the need happily |
| 16:48.00 | kergoth | i google for that, find great articles on the subject |
| 16:48.12 | kergoth | i comment on it on #netfilter, and the guy who runs the site with those articles replies |
| 16:48.14 | kergoth | :) |
| 16:49.06 | lurgy|work | yeah |
| 16:49.42 | numist | the feds make me sad |
| 16:53.07 | lurgy|work | hmm, smartass names.. |
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| 17:01.03 | scanlime | lurgy|work: scdart.. it's one better than sbdart 'cuz it's rewritten entirely in C? :P |
| 17:03.32 | lurgy|work | hehe |
| 17:03.45 | lurgy|work | santa C disort atmospheric radiative tool |
| 17:03.49 | lurgy|work | :) |
| 17:04.21 | scanlime | yikes |
| 17:06.09 | CIA-5 | spacegrant: 03dkuester * r1726 10science/sbdart/README: smartass documentation file |
| 17:06.10 | lurgy|work | hmm |
| 17:06.21 | lurgy|work | er, transfer, not tool |
| 17:07.06 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03micah * r9001 10loopy/loopy.c: Fix some warnings that show up with -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes |
| 17:07.28 | scanlime | erg, I should haul my ass off to work... |
| 17:08.12 | lurgy|work | nah |
| 17:08.55 | lurgy|work | hmm |
| 17:09.52 | lurgy|work | could go with santa barbara forked atmospheric radiative tool |
| 17:10.41 | lurgy|work | s/tool/transfer/ |
| 17:11.30 | lurgy|work | or just.. fortran atmospheric radiative transfer |
| 17:13.17 | kergoth | <wli> perl bloweth, yea, and it sucketh, and lo, behold that when the perl goat bloweth, it bloweth goats, and sheep, and all the fauna and even some of the flora of the vineyard. |
| 17:13.17 | CIA-5 | spacegrant: 03dkuester * r1728 10science/sbdart/README: some talk of licensing |
| 17:14.35 | scanlime | lurgy|work: :) |
| 17:15.06 | zak | ChipX86: I'm sorry...you need to pull a scanlime and surgically implant your keys into your left hip |
| 17:15.15 | scanlime | hehe |
| 17:15.23 | scanlime | zak: I stopped doing that when I got car keys :) |
| 17:15.33 | zak | bah |
| 17:15.51 | ChipX86 | people keep telling me to go home |
| 17:16.00 | scanlime | it would be just a little awkward to drive with your pants attached to the ignition |
| 17:16.03 | scanlime | ChipX86: go home! |
| 17:16.09 | nullpuppy | ChipX86: you've been there for 12 hrs.. maybe you should listen to them ;) |
| 17:16.11 | zak | ChipX86: is there any point in it? can you get inside? |
| 17:16.17 | ChipX86 | zak: I can now |
| 17:16.27 | zak | then i agree |
| 17:16.29 | scanlime | ChipX86: go home then! |
| 17:16.31 | zak | git gone |
| 17:17.07 | zak | cya scanlime |
| 17:17.49 | ChipX86 | been up just about 24 hours now |
| 17:18.14 | kergoth | go sleep. |
| 17:18.19 | ChipX86 | not done yet |
| 17:20.19 | ChipX86 | oh |
| 17:20.21 | ChipX86 | IBM called |
| 17:20.26 | ChipX86 | they won't refund my money |
| 17:20.36 | kergoth | wtf |
| 17:20.37 | ChipX86 | and they'll only give me a new laptop if I can show the mthe receipt from when I bought it |
| 17:20.41 | ChipX86 | except I bought it online and don't have it |
| 17:21.18 | file[tau] | wth? |
| 17:24.15 | file[tau] | ChipX86: what ever shall you do? :( |
| 17:24.33 | ChipX86 | dunno yet |
| 17:24.40 | kergoth | i vote sleep |
| 17:24.44 | file[tau] | what about online order history? |
| 17:25.32 | zak | ChipX86: did you get the laptop off the IBM website? |
| 17:25.35 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 17:25.46 | zak | do you have the credit card you used? |
| 17:25.48 | ChipX86 | the guy said he'll talk to IBM sales and see if they can find it (which he said earlier in the conversation that he could) |
| 17:25.54 | zak | they can |
| 17:26.09 | ChipX86 | but he said there's no telling how long it will take and I should expect to wait a while |
| 17:26.12 | zak | and they are full of shit if they say anything otherwise |
| 17:26.19 | zak | that is because they suck |
| 17:26.24 | zak | but sadly is prolly true |
| 17:26.28 | file[tau] | you're so knowledgable |
| 17:27.11 | file[tau] | and continue to go wrong. |
| 17:27.25 | zak | eh ChipX86 i don't suppose you have an account with IBM do you? |
| 17:27.26 | numist | debatable, but yes, even I'm getting a bit worried |
| 17:27.30 | ChipX86 | zak: I should |
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| 17:28.16 | zak | that looks like a receipt to me |
| 17:28.42 | file[tau] | hi hi Cae |
| 17:29.06 | Cae | :) |
| 17:30.26 | zak | ~fishslap IBM |
| 17:30.28 | jbot | ACTION slaps IBM up side the head with a wet fish. |
| 17:31.21 | file[tau] | nobody come near me, or you may get infected |
| 17:31.56 | numist | soon, no having sex with anyone other than your partner and only if it's missionary and for procreation: http://suicidegirls.com/boards/Everything+SG/81705/page1/#post3970654 |
| 17:32.02 | numist | I love the republican party |
| 17:32.17 | numist | saving us from evil pornography made by consenting adults one site at a time |
| 17:33.53 | ChipX86 | god damnit |
| 17:33.55 | ChipX86 | I had an IBM account |
| 17:33.57 | ChipX86 | it's not valid anymore |
| 17:34.22 | zak | i bet if you feel like calling them, they can find it for you |
| 17:34.31 | ChipX86 | they don't want me to have a working system |
| 17:34.34 | ChipX86 | that's been made very clear |
| 17:34.46 | zak | and honestly, if you are willing to be a super bitch at them, what you are asking them to do is really easy |
| 17:35.00 | zak | just don't let them put you on hold or 'call you back' |
| 17:35.07 | zak | if they do, ask for their supervisor |
| 17:35.16 | zak | or skip them entirely and ask immeadiatly for a sup |
| 17:35.53 | ChipX86 | argh |
| 17:35.56 | ChipX86 | they fucking deleted my account |
| 17:41.23 | ChipX86 | mwahaha |
| 17:41.26 | ChipX86 | found the receipt in an e-mail |
| 17:41.29 | kergoth | nice |
| 17:42.06 | file[laptop] | yay go Chip! |
| 17:42.16 | ChipX86 | and it's on the website |
| 17:42.44 | Cae | out of curiosity, do any of your universities have a subscription to OED? :) |
| 17:43.42 | ChipX86 | going home |
| 17:43.52 | Cae | sleep well |
| 17:44.05 | file[laptop] | bye bye Chip |
| 17:52.43 | zak | OED? |
| 17:52.48 | zak | what is? |
| 17:52.54 | zak | (i suppose that means no) |
| 17:54.29 | Cae | oxford english dictionary |
| 17:54.46 | numist | Cae: I believe mine does |
| 17:54.48 | Cae | they are nifty |
| 17:55.05 | alm262 | I believe mine does as well |
| 17:55.12 | numist | whoa, a new person |
| 17:55.28 | alm262 | numist: an old person with a new name |
| 17:55.29 | alm262 | :) |
| 17:55.34 | numist | ah hah |
| 17:55.38 | file[tau] | he's hiding |
| 17:55.44 | file[tau] | from... life! |
| 17:55.50 | zak | hmm..i imagine we do |
| 18:00.36 | Cae | I can't find my university's subscription info |
| 18:00.57 | scanlime | mmm, coffee |
| 18:02.03 | lurgy | aw |
| 18:03.40 | lurgy | Cae: it seems we have to do that sort of thing through "athens" |
| 18:03.56 | lurgy | whatever that means |
| 18:04.23 | lurgy | oh |
| 18:04.42 | lurgy | but the only american universities that are affiliated with that are cornell, uni chicago, and waldo |
| 18:04.47 | lurgy | boo |
| 18:04.56 | lurgy | i bet your library has a print copy though ;) |
| 18:04.57 | Cae | heh |
| 18:09.18 | scanlime | where's waldo? |
| 18:11.27 | file[tau] | scanlime: excellent question |
| 18:16.41 | hardwire | sounds like a search worthy of taking a day off for |
| 18:18.17 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10bzflag/src/ (bzflag/WorldBuilder.cxx geometry/OccluderSceneNode.cxx): warnings |
| 18:18.46 | ChipX86 | yay, I'm home and in my apartment |
| 18:18.53 | file[tau] | yay |
| 18:19.29 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10bzflag/ (5 files in 3 dirs): add in bz_shutdown, bz_superkill, bz_gameOver to the API |
| 18:19.38 | kergoth | ChipX86: yay |
| 18:20.05 | darth_mall | being in your apartment is important |
| 18:20.12 | file[tau] | I am determined to do this in one SQL query, and dang nabbit I will |
| 18:20.14 | darth_mall | much better than sleeping in the doorway |
| 18:20.17 | ChipX86 | I don't feel I can really go to sleep |
| 18:20.30 | kergoth | why? |
| 18:20.31 | ChipX86 | and my stomach is this really weird uncomfortable feeling. Not hunger, not upset, not really sure |
| 18:20.41 | ChipX86 | kergoth: I've hit that "I've been up so long that now I can't sleep" point |
| 18:21.55 | kergoth | ahh |
| 18:22.31 | file[tau] | ugh I have the taste of Subway sub in my mouth, bleh |
| 18:28.29 | purple_cow | i bet he did |
| 18:31.33 | darth_mall | did you see his last e-mail? |
| 18:31.38 | ChipX86 | I should do another all-nighter again sometime |
| 18:32.46 | kergoth | ChipX86: get a fair bit done? |
| 18:33.02 | purple_cow | hah, PA is good :) |
| 18:33.08 | ChipX86 | I had some stuff planned for this whole |
| 18:33.10 | ChipX86 | whole week |
| 18:33.14 | ChipX86 | it's all done, save for one bug to fix |
| 18:33.16 | kergoth | nice |
| 18:33.28 | ChipX86 | I don't even know what I'm doing with the rest of the week now |
| 18:33.35 | ChipX86 | it's fun having the whole place to myself |
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| 18:35.25 | kergoth | hahaha |
| 18:35.27 | kergoth | PA is indeed good |
| 18:35.33 | kergoth | "Do you have hos in different area codes?" |
| 18:35.39 | file[laptop] | I wonder how much a double Navicat license is... |
| 18:37.28 | purple_cow | i like the snake cover |
| 18:37.38 | kergoth | hehe |
| 18:37.40 | kergoth | dont stand for that shit! |
| 18:39.36 | scanlime | h,, |
| 18:39.39 | scanlime | hmm even |
| 18:39.47 | scanlime | this is going to need to be much smarter about how it handles USB ports :P |
| 18:40.48 | pagefault | haha |
| 18:40.52 | pagefault | the snake thing is hillarious |
| 18:40.56 | kergoth | :) |
| 18:42.57 | kergoth | hee, i love http://www.penny-arcade.com/view.php?date=2005-07-29&res=l |
| 18:50.55 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03evan * r9002 10motion/py/Dance/Sequence.py: |
| 18:50.55 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: This _Coordinate class should serve for using the points in the trajectory as |
| 18:50.55 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: keys in the dictionary that maps points to frames. |
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| 19:00.53 | purple_cow | ♫ and I say your Uncle was a crooked French Canadian / and he was gut-shot runnin gin / and how his guts were all suspended in his fingers / and how he held 'em / how he held 'em, held 'em in ♫ |
| 19:01.10 | kergoth | heh, whats that? |
| 19:02.46 | purple_cow | a decemberists song |
| 19:04.59 | darth_mall | ^^ |
| 19:05.14 | darth_mall | my brother once told me I was gut-shot runnin gin ^^ |
| 19:05.59 | purple_cow | it's a good album |
| 19:06.24 | purple_cow | i'm still totally blown away by the writing in "16 military wives" |
| 19:07.08 | kergoth | hmm, i should get some decemberists off of ubernet when i get home |
| 19:07.32 | purple_cow | they're full of accordions and awesome lyrics |
| 19:08.31 | darth_mall | I like "Of Angels and Angles" myself ^^ |
| 19:08.47 | darth_mall | also, "Eli, the Barrow Boy" |
| 19:13.42 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03evan * r9003 10motion/py/Dance/ (Sequence.py tests.py): Unit tests for the _Coordinate comparison operators. |
| 19:14.58 | purple_cow | http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050926/ap_on_en_tv/obit_adams;_ylt=AgW17A2Ua713BEJjkH.UJS6s0NUE;_ylu=X3oDMTA3b2NibDltBHNlYwM3MTY- |
| 19:16.33 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03evan * r9004 10motion/py/Dance/tests.py: Comments. |
| 19:17.09 | scanlime | build/obj/ws/libdir/lib/wrapper-gtk24.sh: cannot execute: File name too long |
| 19:17.15 | scanlime | that's a new one on me... |
| 19:18.35 | purple_cow | ooh |
| 19:18.38 | purple_cow | http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/in_depth/photo_gallery/3234029.stm |
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| 19:21.46 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03evan * r9005 10motion/py/Dance/tests.py: Add a test to verify that hashing works for _Coordinate objects. |
| 19:30.38 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10bzflag/src/bzflag/ (SceneRenderer.cxx bzflag.cxx playing.cxx): depth buffers for EVERYONE |
| 19:34.38 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03evan * r9006 10motion/py/Dance/Sequence.py: |
| 19:34.38 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: Change the syntax so that it's more clear what the arguments to the Time class |
| 19:34.38 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: are. |
| 19:35.04 | kergoth | sooo tired |
| 19:35.13 | kergoth | i should go get an iced latte or something |
| 19:36.21 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03evan * r9007 10motion/py/Dance/tests.py: |
| 19:36.21 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: Added a stub for testing the nearest neighbor calculation so I don't forget to |
| 19:36.21 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: do it. |
| 19:36.30 | darth_mall | I am so hungry |
| 19:36.39 | prpplague | kergoth: hehe, i've had two pots of coffee today |
| 19:38.52 | scanlime | hmm |
| 19:38.56 | scanlime | dustin and perry have this crazy idea that I should eat lunch or something |
| 19:39.08 | prpplague | scanlime: "just say no!" |
| 19:39.29 | scanlime | ya.. too early in the day to be hungry really |
| 19:39.33 | numist | yeah |
| 19:39.36 | scanlime | and I had a late breakfast of pop tarts and coffee |
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| 19:43.06 | darth_mall | blah |
| 19:43.16 | darth_mall | I've been too lax about work |
| 19:47.53 | scanlime | how's that? |
| 19:48.12 | Cae | back later |
| 19:51.21 | scanlime | oof |
| 19:51.42 | scanlime | I hate it when people say hi to you in the bathroom, then you just can't go no matter how much you think you can until a few seconds after they leave |
| 19:52.06 | scanlime | mens restrooms are supposed to be completely free of human interaction |
| 19:52.45 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03evan * r9008 10motion/py/Dance/Sequence.py: |
| 19:52.45 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: Provide myself with a comment about how the data for bones is stored so that I |
| 19:52.45 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: don't have to keep re-figuring it out. |
| 19:52.57 | darth_mall | scanlime: I just haven't been putting in as much time as I should |
| 19:53.14 | darth_mall | was going over how many hours I'd put in because I have to turn in a timesheet today |
| 19:53.17 | numist | balsamic vinegar owns me |
| 19:53.33 | darth_mall | just owns? |
| 19:53.42 | darth_mall | not pwns, or pwnz0rz? |
| 19:53.51 | numist | its too good for that |
| 19:56.29 | darth_mall | sometimes I tell myself I'm going to start writing music, then I listen to songs like "Nightgown of the Sullen Moon" and realize it's pointless ^^ |
| 19:56.43 | numist | yeah |
| 19:56.44 | darth_mall | man I love this song |
| 19:57.41 | kergoth | mm, iced latte |
| 20:03.46 | file[laptop] | nothing to eat... |
| 20:03.55 | purple_cow | darth_mall: i've been laxer |
| 20:10.30 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03evan * r9009 10motion/py/Dance/ (Sequence.py tests.py): |
| 20:10.30 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: Set up a function in TestSequence to create a dictionary of fake data for the |
| 20:10.30 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: Sequence object. Fix calculation of the number of frames in the data in Sequence |
| 20:10.30 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: so we quit running off the end of the array. |
| 20:10.30 | darth_mall | oooh... palindrome |
| 20:13.31 | kergoth | sigh |
| 20:13.52 | file[tau] | wow, HP is actually being helpful |
| 20:13.53 | kergoth | just went to pick up my plastic cup from the coffee shop, with my iced latte in it, and cracked it in two places |
| 20:13.56 | kergoth | i didnt even squeeze that hard |
| 20:14.00 | kergoth | latte everywhere |
| 20:14.02 | kergoth | yep, its mondya |
| 20:14.06 | file[tau] | er wait I lied |
| 20:14.18 | file[tau] | now they're trying to solve an issue that doesn't exist for me |
| 20:15.12 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03evan * r9010 10motion/py/Dance/Sequence.py: |
| 20:15.12 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: Going to need to store our Time item when we create the initial trajectory or |
| 20:15.12 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: get one when shuffle() is called. Also fixed another array index problem. |
| 20:15.26 | darth_mall | kergoth: >< |
| 20:15.37 | darth_mall | I think I lost my caffeine travel mug from thinkgeek >< |
| 20:15.40 | kergoth | :( |
| 20:15.44 | kergoth | i need one of those |
| 20:17.18 | darth_mall | I think I need another one ^^ |
| 20:17.29 | darth_mall | I can't find it anywhere around the house |
| 20:17.42 | darth_mall | the only thing I can figure is that I brought it class one day, and left it in a classroom without thinking |
| 20:18.09 | file[tau] | :( |
| 20:18.46 | CIA-5 | smrt: 03jupiter * r106 10docs/user-interface/figures/ (arc-menu.blend arc-menu.png): arc menu |
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| 20:20.21 | pagefault | hello |
| 20:35.39 | pagefault | notproud.com is fun |
| 20:35.50 | pagefault | fun waste of time |
| 20:39.11 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03evan * r9011 10motion/py/Dance/ (ODE.py Sequence.py tests.py): |
| 20:39.11 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: Make sure we're using Numeric arrays, not _Coordinate objects in our |
| 20:39.11 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: calculations. Starting on the shuffle test. The Time class isn't going to cut |
| 20:39.11 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: it as is. |
| 20:44.06 | purple_cow | hurray! one student finally managed to get the readings for american indian music on e-reserve |
| 20:44.11 | purple_cow | 'cuz the teacher is incompetant |
| 20:44.45 | purple_cow | ooh, the professor just misspelled judgment on the slides |
| 20:45.12 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03evan * r9012 10motion/py/Dance/ (Sequence.py tests.py): For now shuffle must be given a Time object. Shuffle test runs, but fails now. |
| 20:45.23 | scanlime | bleh |
| 20:45.51 | purple_cow | scanlime: fun |
| 20:46.08 | darth_mall | hmm |
| 20:46.09 | scanlime | at least we have fancy scripts to automate it.. but I'm not used to having so many active branches |
| 20:46.33 | darth_mall | that's like something my mom would've said... |
| 20:46.41 | darth_mall | hehe... weird |
| 20:46.42 | purple_cow | hehe |
| 20:47.27 | purple_cow | huh. that email address belongs to an english major |
| 20:48.47 | darth_mall | obviously Liz has been doing crack |
| 20:48.54 | darth_mall | ^^ |
| 20:53.57 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03evan * r9013 10motion/py/Dance/Sequence.py: |
| 20:53.57 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: When the shuffled sequence is kept to the same number of frames as the original, |
| 20:53.57 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: it is unlikely that all the frames from the original are in the new sequence. |
| 20:53.57 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: Thus, my test fails. When the new sequence has significantly more frames than |
| 20:53.57 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: the original it is much more likely that all the frames are in the new sequence. |
| 20:53.57 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: Thus, my test passes. |
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| 20:56.44 | kergoth | hey cae |
| 20:57.01 | darth_mall | eek! Cae! |
| 20:57.06 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10bzflag/src/bzflag/bzflag.cxx: use a 16 bit depth buffer unless the config has forceDepthBits |
| 20:57.59 | Cae | hey :) |
| 21:00.29 | scanlime | woo |
| 21:00.34 | scanlime | another new hire on our team |
| 21:00.42 | kergoth | nice |
| 21:00.58 | kergoth | yay, reel big fish |
| 21:02.08 | Cae | aaaaaccccckkkkk, acronyms! |
| 21:02.36 | kergoth | scanlime: what source control tool do you guys use? |
| 21:03.12 | scanlime | ah nice.. when you crossport a change it automatically adds that to bugzilla |
| 21:03.25 | scanlime | kergoth: perforce.. plus the kitchen sink |
| 21:03.30 | kergoth | ahh right |
| 21:03.44 | scanlime | we have a pretty extensive wrapper script that does a lot of fancy branch management and such |
| 21:04.07 | scanlime | plus some of us use separate source control systems for things that aren't ready to commit yet |
| 21:04.17 | kergoth | there are advantages to tools like that, but they tend to also have a fair bit overhead associated with em |
| 21:04.19 | kergoth | heh |
| 21:04.32 | scanlime | well, it's great for our main codebase since it handles branches pretty well |
| 21:04.40 | scanlime | but yeah, it's too heavy for everyday development |
| 21:04.48 | scanlime | that's why chris and I use this little patch manager he wrote |
| 21:04.55 | scanlime | plus I store my patch stack in subversion |
| 21:06.23 | kergoth | i like to use svn to track individual deltas thatll flow into a patch, generate it out of there |
| 21:07.01 | kergoth | hehe. yet another "NASTY PANIC" message on the unionfs list |
| 21:07.10 | kergoth | i'll try to hold back my surprise |
| 21:08.20 | scanlime | kergoth: so are you keeping the codebase itself in svn, or just the deltas? |
| 21:09.31 | kergoth | well, that was a general comment. at work we use svn as the main tool for the codebase. for other projects, or for just things like kernel work and stuff i'll use it just for tracking my deltas against upstream, as well as to leverage the 3-way merge type functionality to reduce headaches |
| 21:09.42 | kergoth | http://ozlabs.org/~jk/projects/patchwork/ <-that looks sweet |
| 21:09.58 | kergoth | its a web based patch tracker that catches patches posted to the project's mailing list, so they wont be lost |
| 21:10.06 | kergoth | s/the/a/ |
| 21:10.10 | scanlime | that's cute |
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| 21:23.18 | kergoth | huh, i didnt know about the 'merge' tool. thatd be nice to integrate into a tool like 'quilt' or 'patcher' so that rejects from patch application arent kept around as .rej, but instead put into the file in a cvs/svn type conflict deal |
| 21:24.10 | lurgy|work | doo dee doo |
| 21:26.52 | Cae | 'ello dananana |
| 21:27.19 | numist | manah manah do dooo do doo doo |
| 21:31.38 | kergoth | scanlime: check out http://www.gunnarwrobel.de/wiki/rej.html .. tool for calling out merging apps when a patch gets a reject, i.e. meld. includes a wrapper for 'quilt push' that forces patch application, then prompts for an action on any fuzz/rejects, which can include calling out rej to resolve the reject |
| 21:31.46 | kergoth | might find it useful for your patch management tool at vmware |
| 21:36.36 | scanlime | maybe |
| 21:37.10 | kergoth | can also call out other tools like vimdiff, kdiff3, etc |
| 21:37.25 | kergoth | i want it to just call out 'merge', myself, then i can edit the conflicted files manually |
| 21:37.47 | kergoth | anyway, could improve efficiency when running into conflicts |
| 21:40.08 | kergoth | "i think i'm in love with you and your friend.." |
| 21:42.19 | numist | vmware guys: http://pastebin.com/375098 |
| 21:42.25 | numist | what kind of BS is that? |
| 21:46.49 | scanlime | heh |
| 21:48.21 | scanlime | I only know the basics of VT, but from what I've heard our code is actually faster than it most of the time |
| 21:48.53 | scanlime | we've actually got several virtualization backends now... the binary translator we've been using for ages, VT, and paravirtualization |
| 21:49.30 | scanlime | the xen folks have been getting so cocky over VT that I wonder if they realize how much else there is to writing a VMM |
| 21:49.40 | numist | for multiple 'hard drives' as chippy put it |
| 21:50.14 | scanlime | hm? |
| 21:50.46 | lurgy|work | doopeedooba |
| 21:51.24 | scanlime | Xen's obviously really sweet for an open source solution.. and I hope Linode can finally switch to Xen |
| 21:51.34 | scanlime | but we're not really worried about xen in the data center :P |
| 21:55.19 | zak | scanlime: are you checking bags on friday? |
| 21:56.06 | Cae | hmm. what do I need to put in .vimrc to make it let me use arrow keys and such? |
| 21:56.10 | scanlime | I can probably avoid checking bags |
| 21:56.16 | scanlime | why, did you need me to bring something big? |
| 21:56.17 | numist | Cae: set nocompatible? |
| 21:56.28 | numist | or whatever that one is |
| 21:56.36 | zak | scanlime: nah, i am as always, planner, and i am trying to figure out when i need to leave boulder |
| 21:56.44 | zak | if you are checking bags, i can leave 2:30 |
| 21:56.48 | zak | if not...2:15 |
| 21:56.55 | scanlime | zak: ah. Thanks muchly for picking me up :) |
| 21:57.45 | zak | so...which one? |
| 21:57.47 | Cae | numist: what about for backspace? |
| 21:58.00 | numist | Cae: I have that one.. lemme get my vimrc |
| 21:58.10 | scanlime | zak: I don't think I'll need to check bags |
| 21:58.56 | numist | set backspace=indent,eol,start |
| 21:59.14 | zak | kk |
| 21:59.21 | kergoth | heh, i dont have either a set backspace or a set nocompatible in my vimrc |
| 21:59.44 | numist | I copied the one from the default windows install over to my linuxes I liked it so much :o |
| 21:59.56 | Cae | numist: I love you :) |
| 22:00.01 | numist | :) |
| 22:00.03 | kergoth | i -love-: |
| 22:00.04 | kergoth | http://www.gunnarwrobel.de/wiki/rej.html |
| 22:00.05 | kergoth | er |
| 22:00.10 | kergoth | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:00.10 | kergoth | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:00.10 | kergoth | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:00.10 | kergoth | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:00.20 | kergoth | the "jump to the last line in the file i was editing at" thing |
| 22:00.51 | numist | ah yeah that rocks |
| 22:01.29 | kergoth | i need to tweak my vimrc more |
| 22:01.41 | kergoth | just a couple days ago i fixed my indenting to be more intellligent. was just using set cindent |
| 22:01.52 | kergoth | now using the indent plugins if they exist, via set filetype |
| 22:01.54 | numist | cindent works for me |
| 22:01.57 | kergoth | erm, set filetype indent |
| 22:02.00 | numist | ah hah |
| 22:02.06 | kergoth | there can be plugins for intelligent indenting of different filetypes |
| 22:02.15 | kergoth | http://www.gunnarwrobel.de/wiki/rej.html |
| 22:02.16 | kergoth | gah |
| 22:02.20 | kergoth | damn multiple clipboards!@#% |
| 22:02.27 | kergoth | filetype indent on <-that |
| 22:02.47 | numist | hehe |
| 22:03.12 | kergoth | i got bit by the limitations of cindent the other day doing lua coding |
| 22:03.20 | numist | ouch |
| 22:03.23 | kergoth | it didnt properly unindent when closing a block |
| 22:03.30 | kergoth | since in lua you end blocks with 'end' rather than } |
| 22:03.37 | numist | boo |
| 22:03.38 | kergoth | but the plugin does so happily |
| 22:05.19 | kergoth | ordered one of those 2000dpi logitech laser mice the other day |
| 22:05.30 | scanlime | /tmp/cc0brDtc.s:15305: Fatal error: .abort detected. Abandoning ship. |
| 22:05.33 | kergoth | if buy.com will ever get around to shipping the damn thing |
| 22:05.35 | kergoth | scanlime: haha |
| 22:05.55 | kergoth | scanlime: too bad you didnt run into that on talk like a pirate day, wouldve been even more amusing |
| 22:06.54 | scanlime | heh |
| 22:07.01 | scanlime | yep |
| 22:10.59 | ChipX86 | ugh that was not enough sleep |
| 22:11.27 | ChipX86 | Having solved all other problems, Suicide Girls among first victims of the FBI's "war on porn" (NSFW) |
| 22:11.52 | numist | I linked that earlier this morning |
| 22:11.53 | scanlime | heh |
| 22:13.36 | kergoth | thats messed up |
| 22:13.58 | ChipX86 | :( Don Adams died |
| 22:16.35 | zak | there. plan made. |
| 22:16.41 | scanlime | uh oh |
| 22:16.53 | purple_cow | argh |
| 22:17.00 | purple_cow | stupid video wall, being stupid |
| 22:17.24 | scanlime | I don't want you to touch me. Don't try to help, you'll only make it worse. |
| 22:17.36 | scanlime | Don't tell me it will be ok, nothing's going to be ok. |
| 22:17.51 | scanlime | Anyway, it doesn't matter. I'm going to turn my TV on, cause everything looks beautiful on video. |
| 22:17.59 | zak | scanlime: what is/ |
| 22:18.11 | scanlime | epoxies |
| 22:18.26 | zak | aha |
| 22:26.19 | scanlime | oog, what have I gotten into... |
| 22:27.01 | numist | buaha |
| 22:31.19 | ChipX86 | meh 4 hours of sleep is not enough |
| 22:33.12 | scanlime | I figure given chris' code review history, this one's going to take about a month to get into main |
| 22:33.19 | ChipX86 | :/ |
| 22:33.30 | scanlime | but it will make USB muchly happy |
| 22:33.51 | scanlime | USB ports will become somewhat more abstract objects that can be provided by things other than host controllers >:) |
| 22:34.57 | ChipX86 | can my audio card provide a usb port? |
| 22:35.10 | scanlime | it can try... |
| 22:37.07 | CIA-5 | view: 03hpreg * 10libview/ (7 files in 2 dirs): |
| 22:37.08 | CIA-5 | view: - Renamed VisibilityBox to ContentBox. Minor code changes, no change |
| 22:37.08 | CIA-5 | view: in behavior. |
| 22:37.17 | scanlime | ooh.. regis is on CIA |
| 22:37.23 | ChipX86 | :) |
| 22:37.39 | kergoth | heh, nice |
| 22:38.03 | ChipX86 | and that means the big switch-over can happen |
| 22:38.03 | scanlime | oho |
| 22:38.14 | scanlime | I get to nuke some code labeled "Workstation 3.0 hack" |
| 22:38.16 | ChipX86 | the next beta of WS5.5 will be fully based on libview 0.5.2 |
| 22:38.29 | scanlime | nice |
| 22:38.54 | scanlime | then the next release of virtual PC and Xen will have USB support... |
| 22:38.58 | scanlime | :P |
| 22:38.59 | ChipX86 | some people have been surprised when I've said that we're actually switching to that. I think people are used to just abandoned code dumps |
| 22:39.06 | scanlime | heh, yeah |
| 22:39.08 | scanlime | it's a good thing |
| 22:39.17 | scanlime | you'll dream of microwaves tonight |
| 22:39.32 | scanlime | can you tell I finally bothered making room on my multioutlet for the rio? :) |
| 22:39.47 | ChipX86 | hah |
| 22:40.11 | scanlime | hah, the code that comes up with USB port numbers for the UI to use is gross |
| 22:40.56 | scanlime | hm. don't think I'm going to be able to make it 100% less gross.. but maybe 80% |
| 22:45.11 | CIA-5 | view: 03hpreg * 10libview/ (7 files in 2 dirs): - Stop including defines.h unnecessarily. |
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| 22:49.14 | scanlime | purple_cow: what's wrong? |
| 22:56.41 | CIA-5 | view: 03hpreg * 10libview/ (4 files in 2 dirs): |
| 22:56.41 | CIA-5 | view: - Consistently include files using <> (instead of "") and a libview/ |
| 22:56.41 | CIA-5 | view: prefix. |
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| 23:03.54 | CIA-5 | view: 03hpreg * 10libview/ChangeLog: Make ChangeLog use UTF-8 encoding, in order to properly support and display the names of all our numerous international contributors. |
| 23:08.16 | darth_mall | yum |
| 23:15.46 | purple_cow | zak: that's the most interesting spelling of "bhajis" i've ever seen ;) |
| 23:18.14 | scanlime | ooh.. best function name evar |
| 23:18.39 | scanlime | oh, nope.. this one is |
| 23:20.53 | darth_mall | yay! my desktop is back up and running |
| 23:23.57 | purple_cow | oh how i love vietnamese food |
| 23:24.08 | scanlime | mm |
| 23:32.26 | darth_mall | up to David Bowie on the music now |
| 23:42.25 | darth_mall | grr |
| 23:42.29 | darth_mall | emerge tetex faster |
| 23:42.48 | scanlime | I should submit a patch to implement --faster in emerge |
| 23:43.03 | purple_cow | heh |
| 23:43.09 | purple_cow | kind of like make --correctly :) |
| 23:43.15 | scanlime | yeah |
| 23:43.20 | scanlime | but this one would be an easy patch |
| 23:43.35 | scanlime | just have to do something like "echo cpu MHz : 10000 > /proc/cpuinfo" |
| 23:43.44 | purple_cow | ahh |
| 23:43.54 | scanlime | then it's the kernel's fault if that doesn't work |
| 23:43.56 | purple_cow | and of course, *everything* needs --for-great-justice |
| 23:44.01 | numist | :D |
| 23:44.18 | scanlime | yep |
| 23:45.02 | darth_mall | hehe |
| 23:45.51 | purple_cow | emerge --faster --for-great justice just flows so nicely from the fingers |
| 23:46.00 | scanlime | :) |
| 23:46.14 | purple_cow | err, missed a - |
| 23:46.21 | purple_cow | so maybe it doesn't flow quite that well :P |
| 23:54.47 | purple_cow | aww |
| 23:54.57 | purple_cow | my new hard drive is backordered for another few days :( |
| 23:57.03 | darth_mall | purple_cow: do you want the descriptions as 3 different subsections under "High-Level Modular Decomposition"? |
| 23:58.59 | purple_cow | darth_mall: the example has subsections |
