| 00:00.19 | ChipX86 | I need more money :( |
| 00:00.22 | ChipX86 | I'm only at around 170g |
| 00:00.25 | ChipX86 | maybe a little less |
| 00:00.31 | ChipX86 | I miss the days of 250g |
| 00:00.39 | kergoth | i'm down to 392 |
| 00:00.42 | kergoth | slowly getting back up though |
| 00:00.43 | ChipX86 | wow |
| 00:00.49 | ChipX86 | you spent that money fast |
| 00:00.52 | kergoth | i was only at like 430 before, so its not a huge loss |
| 00:01.05 | ChipX86 | ah, ok |
| 00:01.10 | ChipX86 | training is getting expensive |
| 00:01.18 | ChipX86 | and I want to have money for my epic mount way before I reach that level |
| 00:01.19 | kergoth | deviate delights get me a couple gold a day, plus items from instances.. not too bad |
| 00:01.26 | kergoth | not nearly as high an income as you though |
| 00:01.29 | ChipX86 | can we do an instance tonight? |
| 00:01.35 | kergoth | sure |
| 00:01.45 | ChipX86 | yarr! :) |
| 00:01.58 | scanlime | grnoh |
| 00:02.03 | scanlime | 6 patches in my yap stack |
| 00:02.06 | scanlime | need.. reviews... |
| 00:02.14 | ChipX86 | are there other neat morphs besides pirates? |
| 00:02.48 | pagefault | ninjas |
| 00:02.53 | ChipX86 | ooh |
| 00:02.57 | ChipX86 | what causes that? |
| 00:02.59 | pagefault | same thing |
| 00:03.00 | pagefault | it's random |
| 00:03.05 | ChipX86 | oh |
| 00:03.08 | ChipX86 | I've only ever been a pirate |
| 00:03.12 | ChipX86 | I want to see a pirate and a ninja duel |
| 00:04.48 | kergoth | lol.. i'm helping a guy debug his code to texture the chat frame |
| 00:04.49 | kergoth | http://kergoth.com/images/screenshots/WOW/WoWScrnShot_091905_185422.jpg |
| 00:04.56 | kergoth | thats one hell of a chat edit box.. |
| 00:04.57 | kergoth | ;) |
| 00:05.52 | ChipX86 | hah |
| 00:06.16 | numist | hmm.. looks like lilo even walloped John's passing to freenode |
| 00:06.26 | ChipX86 | that's so sad :( |
| 00:06.28 | ChipX86 | you okay? |
| 00:06.40 | kergoth | numist: sorry man, that sucks :( |
| 00:07.06 | pagefault | ? |
| 00:07.07 | numist | I dunno... |
| 00:07.20 | scanlime | :( |
| 00:07.20 | numist | really sucks |
| 00:07.21 | pagefault | ? |
| 00:07.21 | pagefault | huh |
| 00:07.25 | numist | pagefault: numist.net/blog |
| 00:07.29 | pagefault | huh |
| 00:07.30 | pagefault | huh |
| 00:07.32 | pagefault | oh |
| 00:07.34 | pagefault | thanks |
| 00:07.37 | pagefault | I don't know whats going on |
| 00:08.02 | pagefault | huh |
| 00:08.03 | pagefault | mint? |
| 00:08.04 | pagefault | oh |
| 00:08.05 | pagefault | .org |
| 00:08.25 | ChipX86 | ? |
| 00:08.35 | pagefault | went to .com instead of .net |
| 00:08.35 | numist | blah... my day is shot |
| 00:08.37 | pagefault | and got some mint |
| 00:08.54 | pagefault | numist, can't seem to get to your page |
| 00:09.01 | numist | yeah, I didnt know at the time, but numist is frequently used by coin collectors (numismatists) |
| 00:09.05 | numist | pagefault: http://numist.net/wordpress/2005/09/19/godspeed-overcode/ |
| 00:09.48 | pagefault | :( |
| 00:09.57 | numist | yeah |
| 00:10.17 | pagefault | :( |
| 00:10.18 | pagefault | sorry dude |
| 00:10.49 | numist | me too... thought he was going to make it, too |
| 00:10.54 | pagefault | :( |
| 00:10.59 | pagefault | too young |
| 00:11.16 | numist | absolutely |
| 00:11.36 | numist | and he hacked more hardware than micah... we were going to do some cool stuff once he got out |
| 00:11.51 | ChipX86 | :( |
| 00:12.30 | pagefault | sorry dude, that sucks |
| 00:12.37 | pagefault | that sucks a lot |
| 00:13.05 | numist | wow, its 5 already... |
| 00:13.21 | ChipX86 | wow |
| 00:13.34 | numist | I didnt get anything done |
| 00:13.42 | ChipX86 | who cares |
| 00:13.51 | numist | well, I do... |
| 00:14.04 | pagefault | :( |
| 00:14.15 | ChipX86 | that's about as bad as a day can get. Go home and do whatever you can to make it easier |
| 00:14.20 | pagefault | :( |
| 00:14.21 | numist | Im at home |
| 00:14.40 | numist | I intended on working from home, but I got the email as soon as I got back from doing health insurance at the office |
| 00:14.40 | pagefault | man |
| 00:14.43 | pagefault | this sucks |
| 00:15.10 | pagefault | like |
| 00:15.15 | pagefault | sorry dude |
| 00:15.15 | pagefault | this sucks |
| 00:15.25 | pagefault | you should just relax |
| 00:15.29 | pagefault | and not worry about stuff for a while |
| 00:15.32 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 00:15.44 | numist | love to... but ChipX86 knows how I live.. I dont think Ive relaxed in a year |
| 00:15.48 | pagefault | sorry dude |
| 00:15.49 | ChipX86 | yeah.. |
| 00:15.50 | pagefault | yeah |
| 00:15.51 | pagefault | well |
| 00:15.57 | pagefault | don't stress it |
| 00:15.58 | pagefault | just chil |
| 00:15.59 | pagefault | l |
| 00:16.08 | numist | yeah |
| 00:16.13 | numist | guess Im eating out tonight |
| 00:16.21 | ChipX86 | and I know in my situation, when someone I'm close to or friends with dies, I end up just working to deal with it, so relaxing doesn't always work I guess.. |
| 00:16.37 | numist | yeah |
| 00:16.50 | ChipX86 | I'm so sorry :( |
| 00:17.09 | numist | its ok... I just gotta do something now |
| 00:17.23 | ChipX86 | I hate cancer.. |
| 00:17.31 | numist | I do too.. everyone I know has died from it |
| 00:17.33 | ChipX86 | the only thing that scares me more than cancer is a heart attack |
| 00:17.51 | ChipX86 | I worry about Jamie sometimes |
| 00:19.09 | numist | yeah... |
| 00:20.41 | darth_mall | numist: sorry to hear about your friend =\ |
| 00:20.47 | numist | thanks |
| 00:21.50 | pagefault | yeah |
| 00:21.50 | pagefault | sorry dude |
| 00:21.52 | pagefault | that really sucks |
| 00:21.54 | pagefault | :( |
| 00:22.06 | pagefault | he's probably in a better place now anyway |
| 00:22.11 | pagefault | as long as he's not suffering |
| 00:22.31 | numist | true |
| 00:22.44 | pagefault | it still really sucks though |
| 00:23.02 | numist | started as skin cancer, went to the bloodstream, but he got the worst one out of his brain with a gamma knife and walked out of surgery that very day... gamma knives impress me |
| 00:23.12 | numist | then they kept finding more... |
| 00:23.22 | pagefault | :( |
| 00:23.24 | numist | if he hadnt just run a marathon when he was diagnosed he would never have made it through initial chemo |
| 00:24.12 | pagefault | it's not fair that healthy people like that die |
| 00:24.16 | numist | no, it isnt |
| 00:24.27 | numist | well, I signed up for the ironman next year.. this ones for him |
| 00:24.41 | pagefault | cool |
| 00:24.53 | numist | yeah, I was volunteering at one saturday (the day he passed) |
| 00:24.59 | numist | the organizer comped me a free entry to next years |
| 00:25.38 | pagefault | well I wish there was something I could do for you |
| 00:25.43 | pagefault | but all I can really say is that |
| 00:25.51 | pagefault | i'm really sorry for you |
| 00:25.58 | scanlime | everybody dies frustrated and sad |
| 00:26.02 | scanlime | and that is beautiful |
| 00:26.28 | numist | not everyone... |
| 00:27.27 | darth_mall | grrr |
| 00:27.40 | kergoth | whee, just overflowed the stack of the lua core in wow |
| 00:27.42 | kergoth | fun fun |
| 00:27.43 | pagefault | :( |
| 00:27.51 | darth_mall | fucking dns |
| 00:28.09 | numist | thanks |
| 00:28.09 | pagefault | kergoth, fun |
| 00:28.14 | kergoth | :) |
| 00:28.27 | numist | I wish I hadnt left SF... it'd be nice to be there today |
| 00:28.36 | pagefault | sorry dude |
| 00:28.38 | pagefault | oh well |
| 00:28.42 | pagefault | it's not your fault |
| 00:28.45 | numist | nope |
| 00:30.06 | pagefault | damn |
| 00:30.08 | pagefault | I gotta get going |
| 00:30.11 | pagefault | again |
| 00:30.12 | pagefault | sorry dude |
| 00:30.19 | pagefault | I hope you feel better soon |
| 00:30.24 | pagefault | sorry dude |
| 00:30.25 | pagefault | brb |
| 00:30.30 | pagefault | bah |
| 00:30.35 | pagefault | my keyboard sucks |
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| 00:43.31 | ChipX86 | I wonder if Pirates of the Caribbean will be on tonight |
| 00:44.04 | scanlime | hehe |
| 00:50.25 | scanlime | today has been weirdly productive.. especially for a monday |
| 00:52.46 | scanlime | hmm |
| 00:53.00 | scanlime | I should be able to resolve all the bugs assigned to me once these five reviews get in =D |
| 00:54.48 | ChipX86 | I should do that too |
| 00:54.58 | ChipX86 | I'm done with all my work for the day |
| 00:55.58 | ChipX86 | "There is a while sqare block present on the screen. Using your mouse you can move is around (mouse)." |
| 01:40.56 | kergoth | whew, got it |
| 01:41.09 | kergoth | couldnt figure out how to traverse a table structure in lua without recursing and blowing up the stack |
| 01:41.10 | kergoth | http://kergoth.com/files/estimatetablesize.lua |
| 01:41.28 | kergoth | dunno why i didnt think of that sooner, its obvious |
| 01:43.48 | purple_cow | wow, i actually had some forethought about making dinners this week |
| 01:47.01 | purple_cow | http://www.pleaseenjoy.com/01Independent%20Projects/03Speech%20Bubbles/00BubbleIntro.htm |
| 01:52.10 | scanlime | hah |
| 01:53.10 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10bzflag/src/bzfs/bzfsAPI.cxx: make API format work the way it should with a va_list |
| 01:54.39 | purple_cow | that's an awesome idea :) |
| 01:54.56 | purple_cow | i love the first one on the sex & drugs section |
| 01:56.11 | CIA-5 | smrt: 03jupiter * r63 10prototype/data/lg3d/SplashDefaults.xml: splash screen config which makes it go crashey. arrg. |
| 01:56.12 | scanlime | they're loading so slow... |
| 01:56.22 | purple_cow | well, it was farked |
| 01:56.24 | scanlime | haha |
| 01:56.26 | scanlime | that's great |
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| 02:05.00 | CIA-5 | smrt: 03jupiter * r64 10prototype/data/lg3d/ (. SplashDefaults.xml logging.properties): fix SplashDefaults to not show a splash screen at all, since it looks like it's not actually doing anything in the background while it's up (wtf?), add the logging config |
| 02:07.45 | CIA-5 | smrt: 03jupiter * r65 10prototype/data/java3d.conf: add java3d display config |
| 02:09.59 | CIA-5 | smrt: 03jupiter * r66 10prototype/data/lg3d.conf: add lg3d config |
| 02:20.10 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10bzflag/ (include/bzfsAPI.h src/bzfs/bzfs.cxx): add pause event hook |
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| 02:26.32 | purple_cow | huh. i coulda sworn i bought sausage tortellini, but these are spinach & cheese |
| 02:26.32 | purple_cow | oh well, i suppose i could have done worse |
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| 02:27.59 | slimspace | hmm... |
| 02:28.57 | purple_cow | obviously golen carjacked lurgy |
| 02:29.06 | purple_cow | they're probably halfway to canadia by now |
| 02:29.24 | scanlime | oh my god! |
| 02:29.26 | scanlime | it worked! |
| 02:29.37 | scanlime | mwahaha |
| 02:29.45 | scanlime | take that glibc |
| 02:31.02 | scanlime | I'm going to have to commit this horrible contraption after a little cleanup... |
| 02:31.13 | scanlime | mostly so I can see if it runs on anyone else's machine :P |
| 02:32.00 | slimspace | purple_cow: :) |
| 02:34.22 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10bzflag/ (ChangeLog src/bzfs/SpawnPosition.cxx src/common/global.cxx): |
| 02:34.22 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: BZDB up the params used for spawning, |
| 02:34.22 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: _spawnSafeSWMod,_spawnSafeSRMod,_spawnSafeRadMod, and _spawnMaxCompTime now |
| 02:34.22 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: controll how the spawn system works. increasing _spawnMaxCompTime and |
| 02:34.22 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: spawnSafeRadMod will help with many spawn problems. |
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| 02:38.15 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03micah * r8917 10obfuscated/dl-trampoline.c: Add a small proof-of-concept program that does some awful things with the stack in order to invoke the dynamic linker without libdl. |
| 02:38.22 | scanlime | ok.. can anyone else here run that? |
| 02:39.12 | nullpuppy | i'm afraid to |
| 02:39.13 | nullpuppy | :) |
| 02:39.20 | nullpuppy | nor do I know where to get it from.. :) |
| 02:39.58 | scanlime | http://svn.navi.cx/misc/trunk/obfuscated/dl-trampoline.c |
| 02:40.04 | scanlime | it's not really obfuscated, just really freaky-weird |
| 02:40.32 | scanlime | it tricks glibc's "security" code by making the stack appear as if glibc is actually calling _dl_open rather than my code |
| 02:40.58 | scanlime | worst that will happen is a segfault or illegal instruction |
| 02:41.32 | nullpuppy | hehe, k |
| 02:41.48 | nullpuppy | any args I need to pass to it? |
| 02:42.03 | scanlime | no args, no libraries to link |
| 02:42.07 | nullpuppy | k |
| 02:42.19 | scanlime | you just need to have a /usr/lib/libpython2.4.so |
| 02:42.27 | nullpuppy | k |
| 02:42.28 | nullpuppy | hmm |
| 02:42.31 | scanlime | if that isn't the right path, you'll need to change it in the source |
| 02:42.33 | nullpuppy | /tmp/ccgzgkLc.s: Assembler messages: |
| 02:42.33 | nullpuppy | /tmp/ccgzgkLc.s:32: Error: suffix or operands invalid for `push' |
| 02:42.55 | scanlime | oh. are you on a 64-bit machine? |
| 02:43.04 | nullpuppy | :) |
| 02:43.05 | nullpuppy | yup |
| 02:43.08 | scanlime | can you compile it in 32-bit mode? |
| 02:43.12 | nullpuppy | hmm |
| 02:43.14 | nullpuppy | maybe |
| 02:43.30 | scanlime | this technique should work fine in 64-bit, but the assembly language parts will need changing :P |
| 02:43.36 | nullpuppy | :) |
| 02:44.29 | nullpuppy | hrm, well, I'll try it on my laptop |
| 02:46.06 | scanlime | oh, hmm... I seem to have confused the dynamic linker a bit. what a surprise :) |
| 02:46.08 | nullpuppy | doh! no libpython2.4.so on my laptop ;) |
| 02:46.10 | nullpuppy | only have 2.3 |
| 02:46.13 | scanlime | that should work fine |
| 02:46.19 | nullpuppy | k |
| 02:46.52 | nullpuppy | w00! segfault! |
| 02:47.00 | scanlime | yay |
| 02:47.08 | scanlime | thanks anyway |
| 02:47.18 | nullpuppy | Found trampoline at 0xb7f2635f\nTested trampoline\Segmentation Fault\n |
| 02:47.20 | nullpuppy | yup :) |
| 02:47.23 | scanlime | hmm |
| 02:47.26 | scanlime | that's not so bad... |
| 02:47.30 | nullpuppy | yeah |
| 02:47.49 | file[laptop] | yummy segmentation fault |
| 02:48.01 | slimspace | scanlime: works here |
| 02:48.16 | scanlime | hmmm |
| 02:48.18 | scanlime | slimspace: cool |
| 02:48.22 | scanlime | works on zero too |
| 02:48.51 | nullpuppy | well.. well.. you're systems suck! |
| 02:48.52 | nullpuppy | :) |
| 02:48.56 | scanlime | yup |
| 02:48.59 | file[laptop] | lol |
| 02:49.17 | scanlime | it's probably a glibc version thing... |
| 02:49.27 | nullpuppy | yeah, probably |
| 02:49.31 | scanlime | the calling signature for _dl_open() isn't exactly stable |
| 02:49.46 | file[laptop] | silly scanlime, always doing dangerous and exciting stuff |
| 02:49.49 | scanlime | and it's partially pass by register and partially on the stack |
| 02:50.01 | scanlime | file: it starts a broken python interpreter, not that exciting ;) |
| 02:50.18 | file[laptop] | a likely story, it's probably a start to world domination |
| 02:50.18 | scanlime | python has trouble dynamically loading libraries afterwards |
| 02:50.32 | slimspace | hehe, broken indeed |
| 02:50.40 | file[laptop] | 1. Break Python |
| 02:50.41 | file[laptop] | 2. ??? |
| 02:50.43 | file[laptop] | 3. Profit! |
| 02:51.06 | nullpuppy | s/Python/anything, anything at all/ |
| 02:51.14 | scanlime | hehe |
| 02:53.00 | file[laptop] | I wonder who rebooted my box at work... |
| 02:58.19 | purple_cow | i admit it, it was me |
| 02:58.29 | file[laptop] | blast! now I have to fix stuff :( |
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| 03:19.31 | purple_cow | JeffM2501: i do like planetes |
| 03:19.54 | purple_cow | nice to see a scifi anime that actually takes the science bit serious |
| 03:19.56 | purple_cow | ly |
| 03:21.16 | JeffM2501 | yeah, I like it because it's very close to beliveable |
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| 03:23.11 | JeffM2501 | the loose screw taking out the spaceplane is kinda spooky |
| 03:23.42 | purple_cow | yep :) |
| 03:26.01 | JeffM2501 | did you get to the moon ninjas yet? |
| 03:26.07 | purple_cow | yeah |
| 03:26.21 | JeffM2501 | further then I |
| 03:26.26 | JeffM2501 | I only have the released DVDs |
| 03:26.34 | purple_cow | ah |
| 03:26.56 | JeffM2501 | cool |
| 03:27.01 | JeffM2501 | they did very good on the dub |
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| 04:05.10 | scanlime | fuck this piece of shit cell phone |
| 04:05.24 | scanlime | I call my brother, I can hear him fine, but he can't hear a word I'm screaming |
| 04:06.42 | lurgy | probably aren't yelling loud enough |
| 04:06.45 | lurgy | ;) |
| 04:06.54 | purple_cow | either that or you're yelling too loud |
| 04:07.11 | scanlime | tried that ;) |
| 04:07.31 | scanlime | the cell reception here also likes to vary between barely-ok and a crackly mess |
| 04:07.58 | slimspace | lurgy: poke |
| 04:08.00 | scanlime | my dad is going to try getting a webcam and setting up some kind of (net|gnome)meeting thing |
| 04:08.22 | slimspace | lurgy: did our IP change? |
| 04:08.53 | file[laptop] | netmeeting is funny |
| 04:15.43 | scanlime | file[laptop]: 'funny'? |
| 04:16.17 | file[laptop] | they use an audio codec, g723.1 that's heavily licensed - I haven't figured out if it's completely legal or not |
| 04:16.28 | lurgy | slimspace: hmm |
| 04:17.07 | lurgy | slimspace: looks like we're now 67-41-140-229.hlrn.qwest.net |
| 04:17.13 | lurgy | slimspace: dunno what we were before |
| 04:18.09 | slimspace | nuts... |
| 04:18.22 | slimspace | scanlime: don't suppose you could update our dns record for boulder.navi.cx? |
| 04:20.55 | CIA-5 | smrt: 03jupiter * r67 10prototype/smrt: aha, apparently for some reason it wants full paths |
| 04:21.45 | scanlime | slimspace: yeah |
| 04:21.46 | scanlime | what to? |
| 04:22.09 | slimspace | 67.41.140.229 |
| 04:22.59 | CIA-5 | smrt: 03jupiter * r68 10prototype/smrt: might as well give j3d a full path too |
| 04:23.18 | CIA-5 | smrt: 03jupiter * r69 10prototype/data/ (. lg3d/SplashDefaults.xml lg3d/logging.properties lg3d.conf): ws & versions |
| 04:27.15 | scanlime | slimspace: ok |
| 04:27.56 | slimspace | scanlime: thanks |
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| 04:31.07 | purple_cow | mmm |
| 04:31.09 | purple_cow | yay mogwai |
| 04:31.17 | slimspace | hurray beer! |
| 04:31.32 | scanlime | purple_cow: uh oh... |
| 04:32.52 | scanlime | hmm |
| 04:33.00 | scanlime | no ieee1394 useflag for gnomemeeting... |
| 04:33.27 | purple_cow | uh oh? |
| 04:33.34 | scanlime | mogwai |
| 04:33.50 | purple_cow | what of it? |
| 04:34.04 | scanlime | random 'uh oh' :P |
| 04:34.15 | purple_cow | bah |
| 04:34.46 | scanlime | heh, damn freevo... |
| 04:34.57 | scanlime | I can have a completely bogus syntax error in a plugin and it keeps on going |
| 04:35.04 | scanlime | it's great at just swallowing errors everywhere |
| 04:35.43 | file[laptop] | goodnight all |
| 04:38.00 | purple_cow | scanlime: nothing in the log file? |
| 04:38.38 | scanlime | purple_cow: well, it likes eating the exceptions then spitting out something silly in the log about the plugin not loading- but without giving a traceback from the original exception |
| 04:38.49 | purple_cow | cool |
| 04:39.01 | scanlime | looks like my python upgrade broke freevo's mixer |
| 04:39.21 | scanlime | it has constants that turn into long ints, then are too big to convert back to signed 32-bit ints when it uses them in an ioctl |
| 04:39.31 | scanlime | really common error in python... |
| 04:39.46 | scanlime | I know there's a really ghastly but effective solution, but I cant' remember it off the top of my head |
| 04:45.12 | purple_cow | the other solution is to copy a couple lines of code from that branch of cvs |
| 04:45.27 | purple_cow | iirc they were intending to release a 1.5.4 with just those fixes, but that seems to have never happened |
| 04:45.42 | scanlime | how do they solve it in CVS? there are two ways that I remember... one is struct.unpack, the other is some ugly bitwise math |
| 04:45.56 | purple_cow | where's the error? i can look at fembot's install |
| 04:45.59 | scanlime | the issue is that in python 2.4 they don't restrict hex literals to 32 bits |
| 04:46.23 | scanlime | look at src/plugins/mixer.py |
| 04:46.42 | scanlime | they will have either changed the SOUND_MIXER_WRITE_PCM definition, or the ioctl in _setVolume() |
| 04:47.24 | purple_cow | def i32(x): |
| 04:47.24 | purple_cow | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:47.30 | scanlime | eww... that's it alright |
| 04:47.31 | scanlime | I hate that |
| 04:47.31 | purple_cow | then change it to be i32(device) |
| 04:47.41 | purple_cow | hehe |
| 04:47.43 | scanlime | ugg |
| 04:47.45 | scanlime | that gives me the willies |
| 04:47.49 | scanlime | I know I saw a simpler way... |
| 04:47.51 | scanlime | but it wasn't much simpler |
| 04:48.01 | scanlime | uggg |
| 04:48.16 | purple_cow | you're writing code to hijack a processes stack and make it look like glibc and *that* gives you the willies?! |
| 04:48.21 | scanlime | hehe |
| 04:48.22 | scanlime | yes |
| 04:48.23 | scanlime | yes it does |
| 04:49.29 | scanlime | SOUND_MIXER_WRITE_PCM = struct.unpack(">i", "\xc0\x04\x4d\x00")[0] |
| 04:49.32 | scanlime | slightly less ugly... |
| 04:49.43 | kergoth | thats not bad |
| 04:50.25 | *** join/#tacobeam Nara (n=psycocat@ppp-209-77-228-225.dsl.chi2ca.pacbell.net) |
| 04:50.28 | ChipX86 | hey |
| 04:50.42 | Nara | Arrr |
| 04:50.44 | Nara | XD |
| 04:50.45 | ChipX86 | yarrrr |
| 04:51.12 | Nara | Just be comin' in t' be all piraty and such |
| 04:51.15 | *** join/#tacobeam spooklight (n=jamie@ppp-67-126-203-66.dsl.chic01.pacbell.net) |
| 04:51.19 | Nara | Arr! |
| 04:51.25 | spooklight | yaar!! |
| 04:51.44 | spooklight | *wears a pirate hat |
| 04:52.02 | kergoth | arr! |
| 04:52.17 | spooklight | hehe |
| 04:52.19 | ChipX86 | the flying spaghetti monster be pleased, yarr |
| 04:52.36 | spooklight | yaarr all hail the flying spaghetti monster |
| 04:53.07 | Nara | XD |
| 04:53.31 | Nara | Yar, Spooky, what be yer 'ship? |
| 04:53.54 | Nara | (SS/HP OTP!) |
| 04:54.18 | spooklight | uh... |
| 04:54.24 | purple_cow | hmm |
| 04:54.26 | numist | hey jamie |
| 04:54.30 | spooklight | yeah? |
| 04:54.33 | numist | and greetings Nara |
| 04:54.35 | spooklight | hello |
| 04:54.40 | numist | spooklight: that was a greeting, not a request :) |
| 04:54.41 | scanlime | =( |
| 04:54.43 | Nara | Greetings |
| 04:54.52 | spooklight | numist, got it |
| 04:54.53 | scanlime | I'm in such need of chai... |
| 04:54.56 | numist | :) |
| 04:55.05 | scanlime | and hi numist |
| 04:55.05 | ChipX86 | numist: how are you doing? |
| 04:55.17 | numist | ChipX86: pretty ok, had a good drive and its raining |
| 04:55.26 | numist | at least.. for san diego its raining.. its still pretty halfhearted |
| 04:55.42 | Nara | Jamie, m'dear, I mean who's the HP pairing you most approve of? |
| 04:56.22 | spooklight | Nara, hmm, that would have to be snape/lucius...if i spelled that right :P |
| 04:56.32 | Nara | Sweet 'ship! |
| 04:56.47 | spooklight | Nara, hehe and yours would be.....? |
| 04:56.55 | Nara | Snape/Harry |
| 04:56.58 | Nara | XD |
| 04:57.01 | spooklight | hehe |
| 04:57.13 | Nara | OTP = one true pairing |
| 04:57.35 | Nara | so SS/HP is my OTP |
| 04:57.50 | spooklight | Nara, very nice |
| 04:58.15 | Nara | and 'ship is just short for relationship |
| 04:58.37 | spooklight | why is everyone leaving? :( |
| 04:58.48 | Nara | So...if we sail on our OTP 'ships, that would make us butt pirates |
| 04:58.58 | Nara | XD |
| 04:58.59 | spooklight | yarrrrrrr |
| 04:59.25 | spooklight | Nara, i think we're the only harry potter fans here |
| 04:59.32 | Nara | I know |
| 04:59.36 | ChipX86 | eep |
| 04:59.38 | spooklight | or maybe the only slash fans...? |
| 04:59.40 | spooklight | nah |
| 04:59.41 | Nara | I just enjoy torturing boys |
| 04:59.41 | numist | hey, watch it with that |
| 05:00.06 | Nara | I used to go by Star hereabouts |
| 05:00.18 | Nara | I'm Chippy's friend Amanda |
| 05:00.23 | Nara | ^__^ |
| 05:00.37 | ChipX86 | that she be |
| 05:00.48 | spooklight | the slash queen ^_^ |
| 05:00.50 | Nara | And I'm an incurable delusional yaoi fan |
| 05:01.17 | Nara | brb, I must attend to a very slashy priest RP |
| 05:01.20 | kergoth | whee, delusions! |
| 05:01.25 | numist | of harem times? |
| 05:01.51 | spooklight | numist, yeah |
| 05:02.00 | numist | cool, pleasure |
| 05:02.18 | spooklight | numist, but now I'M the harem QUEEN!! bwahaha!! |
| 05:02.39 | numist | spooklight: you're always the queen :) |
| 05:02.52 | spooklight | :) |
| 05:03.23 | numist | ok, Im out of here, heading home. |
| 05:03.27 | ChipX86 | cya later |
| 05:03.30 | spooklight | bye |
| 05:10.58 | ChipX86 | ? |
| 05:14.11 | ChipX86 | yarr! http://planet.tacobeam.com/ |
| 05:14.19 | Nara | Myaaaa |
| 05:15.27 | Nara | Hey, Chippy. Here's a bit of info to make yer head go boom. Chelsea and I slept in the same bed last night. |
| 05:15.36 | ChipX86 | oh? |
| 05:15.42 | Nara | Imaaaaagine what you willll |
| 05:15.53 | ChipX86 | is my imagination more interesting than reality? |
| 05:16.31 | spooklight | Nara, glad to see you guys are on good terms again :) |
| 05:16.41 | ChipX86 | verrrry good terms |
| 05:17.42 | Nara | Yeah, its all in yer head, Chippy. |
| 05:17.46 | ChipX86 | :( |
| 05:18.00 | Nara | The most that happened was we were next to each other |
| 05:18.14 | ChipX86 | the most, you say? |
| 05:18.26 | Nara | ya |
| 05:18.30 | Nara | perv |
| 05:18.33 | Nara | XD |
| 05:18.38 | ChipX86 | you love it, admit it |
| 05:18.43 | Nara | yeah |
| 05:18.46 | ChipX86 | :) |
| 05:18.46 | Nara | <3 |
| 05:18.49 | ChipX86 | <3 |
| 05:18.52 | spooklight | hehehe |
| 05:19.09 | spooklight | what the hell, <3 |
| 05:19.13 | ChipX86 | <3 |
| 05:19.16 | ChipX86 | <3-way |
| 05:19.32 | Nara | <3's all around |
| 05:19.35 | spooklight | rofl XD |
| 05:19.35 | scanlime | <4 |
| 05:19.52 | Nara | wait...what? |
| 05:19.58 | ChipX86 | tulip? |
| 05:19.59 | spooklight | why not? |
| 05:20.25 | Nara | <3 = heart |
| 05:20.27 | Nara | dorks |
| 05:20.40 | Nara | Yeah, i went there |
| 05:20.47 | scanlime | <IV |
| 05:20.48 | ChipX86 | :) |
| 05:20.55 | scanlime | er, sorry... |
| 05:20.57 | scanlime | <III |
| 05:21.10 | spooklight | haha! |
| 05:21.18 | scanlime | that could be a little hat |
| 05:21.21 | ChipX86 | that's a little ladder, crushing a man horribly |
| 05:21.25 | scanlime | <III :-o-/-< |
| 05:21.31 | scanlime | :) |
| 05:22.01 | Nara | I will crush your nuts with my mighty fist of yaoi |
| 05:22.05 | *** join/#tacobeam lalo (n=lalo@61.49.239.101) |
| 05:22.09 | Nara | fist...heh |
| 05:22.18 | spooklight | yay yaoi!! :D |
| 05:22.33 | ChipX86 | silly girls |
| 05:22.49 | spooklight | and proud of it! |
| 05:23.15 | scanlime | mmmyep |
| 05:24.43 | spooklight | :D |
| 05:29.00 | ChipX86 | http://planet.tacobeam.com/ |
| 05:29.01 | ChipX86 | much better. |
| 05:31.13 | scanlime | hehe, sweet |
| 05:32.00 | ChipX86 | that should just be our constant style |
| 05:32.07 | ChipX86 | every day should be pirate day |
| 05:33.04 | darth_mall | oof |
| 05:33.05 | ChipX86 | Planet Tacobeam needs more blogs |
| 05:33.06 | darth_mall | my tummy hurts |
| 05:33.13 | ChipX86 | :( |
| 05:33.32 | ChipX86 | Nara: sorry I woke you guys up :( |
| 05:33.47 | darth_mall | and I'm so sleepy but I haves to take my brother over to Connor O'Neil's in about 30 minutes |
| 05:35.13 | purple_cow | birthday? |
| 05:38.48 | purple_cow | wow, jen is angry |
| 05:39.56 | scanlime | :( |
| 05:41.06 | purple_cow | blah, i will never understand people |
| 05:41.13 | spooklight | g'night all |
| 05:41.24 | darth_mall | purple_cow: just read her blog? ^^ |
| 05:41.29 | rioter | :( poor jen |
| 05:41.29 | purple_cow | yeah |
| 05:41.34 | darth_mall | and yes, in about 20 minutes my brother is 21 |
| 05:41.42 | darth_mall | kind of scary |
| 05:41.42 | purple_cow | didn't she say in another post that she didn't want anyone's "help"? |
| 05:41.48 | purple_cow | darth_mall: yeah, that is scary |
| 05:42.41 | rioter | ill be scared when i turn 21 :( |
| 05:47.14 | scanlime | hrm, bjork keeps getting louder by herself |
| 05:47.16 | laodamas | I'll be scared when I turn 21 again |
| 05:47.22 | scanlime | (couldn't possibly be a freevo mixer bug...) |
| 05:49.04 | scanlime | uh... |
| 05:49.08 | ChipX86 | Nara: poke |
| 05:49.12 | scanlime | I told wasabi to compile gnomemeeting |
| 05:49.16 | scanlime | why is it on e-d-s now? |
| 05:49.24 | ChipX86 | gnomemeeting probably requires e-d-s now |
| 05:49.29 | scanlime | blahhh |
| 05:49.34 | ChipX86 | I think I heard some talks about that |
| 05:49.54 | scanlime | I don't need evolution integration... |
| 05:50.18 | scanlime | I'd be happy with a patch to add video1394 support to netcat :P |
| 05:50.37 | *** join/#tacobeam lurgy (n=lurgyman@67-41-140-229.hlrn.qwest.net) |
| 05:50.46 | purple_cow | it's not evolution integration |
| 05:50.49 | purple_cow | it's addressbook :P |
| 05:52.34 | scanlime | equally helpful |
| 05:53.04 | ChipX86 | Nara: I poketh thee |
| 05:53.41 | ChipX86 | Nara: http://osiris.chipx86.com/photos/christian/yarr-chippy-the-pirate.jpg |
| 05:55.06 | laodamas | eek |
| 05:55.09 | scanlime | hehe |
| 05:55.16 | scanlime | you should have come to work in that today |
| 05:55.20 | ChipX86 | I was tempted |
| 05:55.26 | Nara | OMG! |
| 05:55.58 | Nara | Chippy! You are crazy cool! |
| 05:58.42 | *** join/#tacobeam lalo (n=lalo@61.149.204.204) |
| 05:59.59 | ChipX86 | http://www.talklikeapirate.com/howto.html#pickup |
| 06:00.01 | ChipX86 | :) |
| 06:04.13 | scanlime | hahaha |
| 06:04.15 | scanlime | sweet |
| 06:04.23 | scanlime | LD_PRELOAD + python + glxgears + soya |
| 06:08.29 | *** join/#tacobeam lalo|home (n=lalo@61.149.204.204) |
| 06:14.33 | purple_cow | wow, that was an unbelievably fast build |
| 06:14.37 | purple_cow | but it didn't solve my problem :( |
| 06:17.58 | *** topic/#tacobeam by darth_mall -> Happy 21st Birthday to darth_mall's brother!! || http://www.brokentoys.org/?p=6849 |
| 06:20.14 | CIA-5 | smrt: 03jupiter * r70 10docs/initial-requirements/requirements.tex: very minor style & grammar changes |
| 06:25.30 | scanlime | wow, this is kinda slow :P |
| 06:25.51 | scanlime | oh. it's slow even without my hack |
| 06:25.51 | purple_cow | what is? |
| 06:25.54 | scanlime | go -vo gl :P |
| 06:25.55 | scanlime | so... |
| 06:26.30 | purple_cow | go? |
| 06:26.30 | scanlime | I have an LD_PRELOAD hack loading a python extension and calling a function right before glXSwapBuffers() gets invoked |
| 06:26.37 | scanlime | then that python extension uses soya3d to draw a yellow square on top of the video :) |
| 06:26.48 | purple_cow | crazy bastard |
| 06:26.56 | scanlime | but this bjork video plays kinda slow in -vo gl even without my hack |
| 06:27.57 | scanlime | oh |
| 06:28.02 | scanlime | I'm still compiling evolution crap |
| 06:28.09 | scanlime | that would explain the slowness... |
| 06:28.16 | scanlime | ooh lookit all that smooth video |
| 06:28.23 | scanlime | sweet |
| 06:28.26 | scanlime | this might actually be usable :) |
| 06:28.37 | scanlime | screw compiling a patched mplayer, binary patching is the wave of the future |
| 06:28.46 | scanlime | nobody wants multiple copies of mplayer on their system |
| 06:29.05 | purple_cow | you don't need multiple copies :P |
| 06:29.43 | scanlime | well, sure |
| 06:29.46 | purple_cow | bmovl2 is a filter that's only set up if you give it the proper -vf bit on the command line |
| 06:29.54 | scanlime | nod |
| 06:30.04 | scanlime | but this would have to be a modified vo |
| 06:30.32 | scanlime | I guess I don't see the point of using bmovl2 when you could use the the opengl vo then render on top of that |
| 06:31.43 | scanlime | biggest reason IMHO is that you can always render at the full output resolution, not the video resolution |
| 06:31.46 | scanlime | and it's wicked fast =D |
| 06:32.07 | scanlime | patching into glXSwapBuffers() like this seems to be working real nicely |
| 06:32.20 | scanlime | it's weird having python code running in mplayer's address space |
| 06:32.37 | purple_cow | i suppose it does avoid the pbuffer mess |
| 06:32.40 | scanlime | yes |
| 06:32.44 | scanlime | and YUV conversion |
| 06:32.51 | scanlime | and dealing with a bunch of different resolutions and aspect ratios |
| 06:32.56 | scanlime | you let the existing vo code deal with that |
| 06:33.05 | scanlime | and you get an only slightly dirty OpenGL context to work in |
| 06:33.51 | scanlime | this solution seriously just requires about 10 lines of C and LD_PRELOAD =D |
| 06:33.56 | scanlime | and no platform-specific hacks |
| 06:36.41 | purple_cow | so wait |
| 06:36.58 | purple_cow | what was that whole glibc-libdl thing about? |
| 06:38.36 | scanlime | curiosity |
| 06:38.49 | scanlime | well |
| 06:39.14 | scanlime | at first I was curious if I could do this patching on a running process rather than with LD_PRELOAD.. I know LD_PRELOAD is way more practical, but I was just curious if it was possible |
| 06:39.33 | purple_cow | heh |
| 06:39.41 | scanlime | so my idea was to use ptrace() to patch the process's .plt section and jam some code into an unused area of the stack |
| 06:39.49 | scanlime | then use that to dlopen() python and such |
| 06:39.56 | scanlime | but that would require calling dlopen() without libdl |
| 06:40.03 | purple_cow | has anyone ever called you crazy awesome? |
| 06:40.03 | scanlime | that's what my crazy stack trick accomplished |
| 06:40.06 | scanlime | haha |
| 06:40.08 | scanlime | :P |
| 06:40.32 | purple_cow | seriously. normal people don't -do- these kinds of things |
| 06:40.37 | scanlime | so yes... LD_PRELOAD and 10 lines of C seem to be much more practical than ptrace magick |
| 06:41.07 | scanlime | this is nothing compared to what valgrind does :P |
| 06:41.16 | scanlime | it's closer to ltrace |
| 06:43.05 | scanlime | ooh, python tracebacks from mplayer :P |
| 06:43.16 | purple_cow | hehehe |
| 06:43.59 | scanlime | hmm |
| 06:44.05 | scanlime | soya's opengl bindings are somewhat incomplete |
| 06:44.26 | scanlime | well.. there are just a lot of functions you an access from pyrex but not pure python |
| 06:49.20 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03micah * r8918 10python/glx-hijack/ (. Makefile glx-hijack.c overlay.py test.sh): |
| 06:49.20 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: This is a proof-of-concept for using LD_PRELOAD to embed Python code in an |
| 06:49.20 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: arbitrary OpenGL app to scribble on top of its output by hooking |
| 06:49.21 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: glXSwapBuffers(). The example draws a translucent rotating quad on top of |
| 06:49.21 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: mplayer's output when you use "-vo gl". Requires Soya 3D's OpenGL bindings... |
| 06:49.21 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: eventually this should hook into Soya 3D's rendering loop. |
| 06:49.24 | scanlime | mwahaha |
| 06:49.52 | kergoth | you are a sick, sick man |
| 06:50.34 | scanlime | yeah, I know |
| 06:51.03 | kergoth | okay then, as long as you know ;) |
| 06:51.12 | scanlime | it would still be nice to have a way to dynamically add and remove these hooks.. would save lots of CPU when the overlays are invisible |
| 06:51.24 | numist | micah, you are a lovable type of insanity |
| 06:51.29 | scanlime | hehe |
| 06:51.30 | scanlime | thanks :) |
| 06:51.33 | numist | keep it up |
| 06:53.58 | scanlime | and now I can watch futurama with a rotating quad on top! |
| 06:59.06 | kergoth | bleh, tired |
| 07:04.12 | scanlime | I get nervous and my mouth feels like it's full of peanut butter.. even when it isn't! |
| 07:12.21 | purple_cow | of all the parasites i've had, these worms are among...hell, they -are- the best! |
| 07:25.07 | numist | yay it finally thundered |
| 07:25.17 | numist | I was getting really worried that there was all this lightning and no thunder :o |
| 07:25.28 | numist | esp after war of the worlds :/ |
| 07:25.33 | purple_cow | hah |
| 07:25.58 | purple_cow | mmmmmm |
| 07:26.00 | purple_cow | http://www.slashfood.com/2005/09/19/food-porn-avocado-and-cold-chicken-sandwich/ |
| 07:37.07 | ChipX86 | wish I could remember what I did to my shoulder |
| 07:38.24 | purple_cow | slashfood makes me so hungry |
| 07:48.28 | ChipX86 | they need to release a new, non-broken libgdiplus :/ |
| 07:51.14 | scanlime | mmmm |
| 07:51.29 | CIA-5 | osiris-misc: 03chipx86 * r224 10taco/ (ChangeLog src/widgets/Canvas.cs): libgdiplus 1.1.9 broke Graphics.Save(). For now, we'll just do the transformation ourselves. This unfortunately allows thingies to break the transformation, but oh well. |
| 07:51.38 | scanlime | soya 3D is somewhat moderately unhappy about all of a sudden not having SDL |
| 07:52.17 | ChipX86 | argh |
| 07:52.22 | ChipX86 | damn you System.Drawing |
| 07:52.26 | ChipX86 | it is so unbelievably broken |
| 07:53.12 | purple_cow | :( |
| 07:53.29 | ChipX86 | you can't do a transform and then draw more than one image |
| 07:53.33 | ChipX86 | otherwise, it loses the transformation |
| 07:59.00 | purple_cow | weird |
| 07:59.07 | CIA-5 | osiris-misc: 03chipx86 * r225 10taco/ (5 files in 5 dirs): |
| 07:59.07 | CIA-5 | osiris-misc: - Add a neat animation thing to the bowling ball. |
| 07:59.07 | CIA-5 | osiris-misc: - Canvas elements must now write to their bounds instead of being able to rely on 0, 0 being their location to draw to. libgdiplus is broken. |
| 07:59.43 | CIA-5 | osiris-misc: 03chipx86 * r226 10taco/ (7 files in 3 dirs): Add some files I forgot. |
| 08:00.09 | ChipX86 | woah. I could have sworn there were ants crawling on my leg |
| 08:01.11 | purple_cow | cocaine is bad, mmk? |
| 08:01.21 | ChipX86 | heh |
| 08:01.35 | numist | yay thunder and lightning |
| 08:01.35 | ChipX86 | argh |
| 08:01.40 | ChipX86 | now why is it drawing garbage |
| 08:01.56 | ChipX86 | I am about to kill off the taco project for a while |
| 08:02.31 | purple_cow | port it to perl! |
| 08:02.35 | purple_cow | that'll fix everything |
| 08:02.38 | ChipX86 | :) |
| 08:02.43 | ChipX86 | excellent idea |
| 08:04.22 | numist | :( |
| 08:04.26 | numist | no more taco? today really does suck |
| 08:05.29 | CIA-5 | osiris-misc: 03chipx86 * r227 10taco/ (ChangeLog src/SpriteAnimator.cs): Fix an off-by-one in the sprite animator that would cause a missing frame. |
| 08:05.56 | ChipX86 | depends. |
| 08:06.55 | ChipX86 | yep, it's libgdiplus again. Damnit. |
| 08:07.12 | ChipX86 | sometimes while compositing, it leaves garbage, and I don't know what the exact cause is |
| 08:08.05 | *** part/#tacobeam JeffM2501 (n=jeffm@pdpc/supporter/sustaining/JeffM2501) |
| 08:08.38 | ChipX86 | what's it doing? |
| 08:11.27 | ChipX86 | think I got it |
| 08:12.18 | numist | YAY LIGHTNING |
| 08:12.21 | numist | omg rock |
| 08:12.23 | CIA-5 | osiris-misc: 03chipx86 * r228 10taco/ (ChangeLog src/SpriteAnimator.cs): Work around the issue where garbage was being drawn at times. |
| 08:12.27 | ChipX86 | I miss lightening |
| 08:13.08 | numist | I havent seen a storm like this here since I moved here |
| 08:14.19 | purple_cow | oh, hih |
| 08:14.21 | purple_cow | err, huh |
| 08:14.23 | purple_cow | it runs now |
| 08:14.37 | ChipX86 | you're probably hitting one of the libgdiplus bugs I fixed |
| 08:14.55 | purple_cow | i like the bowling ball animation |
| 08:15.20 | ChipX86 | damn you!! argh I *HATE* this library |
| 08:15.39 | purple_cow | ChipX86: maybe. i was crashing in fyre2 and now i'm not anymore, so i think my system had something broken |
| 08:16.00 | CIA-5 | osiris-misc: 03chipx86 * r229 10taco/ (ChangeLog src/widgets/CanvasSelection.cs): Fix the location of the selection rectangle. Shame libgdiplus screws it up. |
| 08:16.04 | purple_cow | you need to copy fyre2's super-sexy DnD for taco :) |
| 08:16.07 | ChipX86 | so DrawRectangle does this lovely thing where it draws outside the bounds you give it |
| 08:16.15 | ChipX86 | purple_cow: if I continue this horrid project |
| 08:16.26 | ChipX86 | it would be a nice project if libgdiplus didn't massively suck |
| 08:17.07 | purple_cow | yeah :( |
| 08:17.18 | ChipX86 | it's just enough to make me want to stop |
| 08:17.35 | ChipX86 | every project right now has something like this going on. It's really hard to sit down and code when I get home |
| 08:18.02 | scanlime | grrr |
| 08:18.08 | ChipX86 | doesn't this thing know that 1 != 2? |
| 08:18.14 | scanlime | I can scribble on mplayer all I want, but soya won't render anything |
| 08:19.05 | ChipX86 | it has to do with the antialiasing support I think |
| 08:20.21 | ChipX86 | though if that's it, turning off anti-aliasing doesn't do a thing. |
| 08:25.33 | scanlime | enough of this.. bedtime |
| 08:25.59 | scanlime | soya is frustrating to debug.. can't just poke around in the pyrex stuff at runtime like you can with the pure-python parts |
| 08:26.06 | scanlime | and all the rendering code is in pyrex naturally |
| 08:26.15 | scanlime | too lazy to actually recompile it to add debugging ;) |
| 08:26.42 | scanlime | at least it looks like, in theory, I should be able to get soya running entirely within mplayer >:) |
| 08:28.14 | ChipX86 | now why is FillRectangle no longer doing anytthing after a few calls |
| 08:30.01 | ChipX86 | according to the code path, it's drawing exactly when and where it should |
| 08:30.05 | ChipX86 | but it just stops working. |
| 08:30.09 | ChipX86 | simple as that |
| 08:33.07 | purple_cow | why is it you haven't already switched to cairo? |
| 08:33.28 | ChipX86 | because if I'm going to redo this in cairo, I'm ditching C# as well |
| 08:33.40 | ChipX86 | and if it comes down to either of those, I'm just giving up for a while |
| 08:36.29 | ChipX86 | yep, it's definitely a bug in the rectangles code or something lower-level than that |
| 08:36.49 | ChipX86 | not to mention that that code worked before |
| 08:37.43 | purple_cow | :( |
| 08:37.51 | purple_cow | have you told the mono folks that this stuff sucks? |
| 08:38.03 | ChipX86 | no, because they'll tell me to use svn, which I haven't gotten compiled yet |
| 08:38.23 | ChipX86 | due to it wanting me to upgrade my auto* tools, which I'm not ready to do just yet |
| 08:39.22 | ChipX86 | taco's on hold for a while. |
| 08:41.50 | ChipX86 | meh. g'night |
| 08:42.37 | purple_cow | 'night |
| 08:57.13 | numist | night chippy |
| 09:05.29 | numist | good idea... |
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| 13:07.13 | pf-mobile | yay happy birthday |
| 13:58.37 | file[laptop] | yay birthday |
| 14:00.23 | pf-mobile | yeah |
| 14:00.25 | pf-mobile | mine is soon too |
| 14:00.46 | pf-mobile | but now I require caffeine |
| 14:16.25 | kergoth`zzz | bleh |
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| 14:58.32 | pagefault | mmm |
| 14:58.36 | pagefault | FF6 music is so yummy |
| 15:09.17 | pagefault | ok |
| 15:09.20 | pagefault | now to watch advent children |
| 15:40.33 | kergoth`zzz | bleh |
| 15:41.19 | prpplague | kergoth: morning crack baby |
| 15:41.22 | kergoth | bleh |
| 15:49.44 | pagefault | hehe |
| 15:49.51 | file | kergoth: destroy mornings? |
| 15:49.57 | pagefault | jerk it out |
| 15:50.12 | kergoth | file: yes |
| 15:50.13 | pagefault | they play that song way too much |
| 15:50.23 | pagefault | jerk it out by some weird group |
| 15:50.29 | pagefault | it's on every day |
| 15:50.46 | kergoth | heh. you ever see the movie The Jerk? |
| 15:50.51 | file | my co-worker is out for a few hours... everything is under my control now |
| 15:50.52 | kergoth | god thats funny, i need to download it from ubermovie |
| 15:50.56 | pagefault | nah |
| 15:51.21 | pagefault | don't panic |
| 15:51.37 | file | I need to get a copy of the Asterisk O'Reilly book |
| 15:51.41 | file | but distribution is slow |
| 15:51.49 | kergoth | pagefault: put it this way.. the movie stars steve martin. when it first starts, the first thing you hear is steve martin saying "I was born a poor black child." |
| 15:52.09 | file | that made me chuckle already |
| 15:52.12 | kergoth | :) |
| 15:52.20 | pagefault | hahaa |
| 15:55.24 | prpplague | kergoth: i love The Jerk |
| 15:55.53 | prpplague | kergoth: i like at the end where he says they tore down the old house and built a new one :) |
| 15:55.58 | kergoth | hehe |
| 15:56.02 | kergoth | the whole thing is hilarious |
| 15:56.18 | prpplague | kergoth: i'm picking out a thermos for you! |
| 15:56.48 | kergoth | and all i need is my thermos |
| 16:00.07 | prpplague | kergoth: hey, you got any more good urls for project time estimation? |
| 16:02.21 | kergoth | hmm, not handy |
| 16:02.28 | kergoth | if you find any, let me know. i suck at it |
| 16:03.09 | pagefault | wee |
| 16:03.12 | pagefault | I need to get that dvd and copy ot |
| 16:03.13 | pagefault | it |
| 16:03.32 | prpplague | kergoth: will do, so do i |
| 16:04.33 | prpplague | kergoth: i'm bad about cutting my time short as i don't want to think i'm taking longer than other programmers for similiar jobs |
| 16:04.41 | kergoth | nod |
| 16:04.52 | kergoth | i end up working my ass off to meet my own damn deadlines. my own fault |
| 16:04.59 | kergoth | maybe i should start doing the multiply by 3 thing |
| 16:05.48 | prpplague | kergoth: i've been trying 25% increase but that still doesn't seem enough |
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| 16:12.52 | prpplague | kergoth: i;ve had 4 different ppl recomend this - http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0201835959/qid=1127232627/sr=2-1/ref=pd_bbs_b_2_1/102-0680645-8053731?v=glance&s=books |
| 16:14.05 | scanlime | s/4/5/ |
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| 16:29.03 | kergoth | hmm.. i've heard about that book. never read it though |
| 16:37.57 | scanlime | where'd the cheese go? |
| 16:38.01 | scanlime | I don't know! |
| 16:38.48 | scanlime | where'd the *cheese* go? |
| 16:39.40 | JeffM2501 | there the muthafucking chesse at bitch? |
| 16:44.12 | kergoth | hahaha |
| 16:44.13 | kergoth | http://www.cafepress.com/nucleartacos.26746951 |
| 16:44.15 | kergoth | thats awesome |
| 16:44.17 | kergoth | scanlime: look at that :) |
| 16:46.11 | numist | wow scanlime is up early |
| 17:11.48 | purple_cow | blah |
| 17:12.04 | purple_cow | no bruce, i am not putting an image on the title page to make it less "dry" |
| 17:12.21 | purple_cow | it's a freaking requirements document, not a novel |
| 17:15.01 | kergoth | hehe |
| 17:19.17 | purple_cow | that's the same mentality that causes people to make powerpoint slides :P |
| 17:19.37 | purple_cow | oh how i seethe at that |
| 17:19.54 | kergoth | when i make "slides", its a sequence of svg images :P |
| 17:22.47 | scanlime | kergoth: haha, that's awesome |
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| 17:23.17 | file | welcome to a state of conciousness Chip! |
| 17:23.21 | scanlime | kergoth: need to make a linux version though.. with the little hex numbers |
| 17:23.26 | kergoth | yeah :) |
| 17:23.37 | Cae | morning Chippy |
| 17:23.38 | ChipX86 | file: *grumble* |
| 17:23.49 | ChipX86 | my contact apparently had acid on it when I put it in my eye |
| 17:23.53 | file | ChipX86: destroy mornings! |
| 17:23.54 | file | eep |
| 17:23.55 | scanlime | ChipX86: come to work, they have muffins! |
| 17:23.56 | ChipX86 | it's all red and watery |
| 17:24.07 | scanlime | and no contact lenses or acid in these muffins... |
| 17:24.08 | scanlime | so far |
| 17:24.10 | ChipX86 | scanlime: I will later. Going to back up my laptop. There's the SVLUG Hackfest tonight. Want to come? |
| 17:24.16 | scanlime | hmmmmm |
| 17:24.29 | scanlime | hackfest sounds good, though the stuff I'm hacking on needs wasabo |
| 17:24.31 | scanlime | er, wasabi |
| 17:24.37 | ChipX86 | hack remotely? |
| 17:24.38 | ChipX86 | there's internet |
| 17:24.44 | scanlime | mebbe |
| 17:25.08 | scanlime | suppose I could always take screenshots to see if it's working ;) |
| 17:25.14 | ChipX86 | :) |
| 17:25.18 | ChipX86 | no vnc? |
| 17:25.24 | purple_cow | you could bring wasabi and your TV! |
| 17:25.28 | ChipX86 | yay! |
| 17:25.31 | scanlime | I'd rather not run without accelerated GL |
| 17:25.32 | scanlime | haha, yes |
| 17:25.41 | scanlime | that TV isn't hard to carry if you do it just right... |
| 17:26.01 | ChipX86 | going to bring my laptop to the thing and hope it doesn't die much |
| 17:26.07 | scanlime | have to spread out your feet, curl your fingers forward under the bottom of the TV, then balance the front against your forehead |
| 17:26.24 | scanlime | that's how I got it onto the TV stand |
| 17:26.31 | ChipX86 | it makes me sad that pgo doesn't have pirate stuff anymore |
| 17:26.35 | scanlime | aw |
| 17:26.40 | ChipX86 | but ptc does! |
| 17:27.29 | ChipX86 | aw crap |
| 17:27.45 | scanlime | hm? |
| 17:27.58 | ChipX86 | oh phew |
| 17:28.05 | ChipX86 | I saw an e-mail on hosted-ui saying there's a teststopper bug |
| 17:28.12 | ChipX86 | pressing next on the New Team wizard crashes the program |
| 17:28.18 | ChipX86 | but it's the Windows new team wizard! |
| 17:28.24 | ChipX86 | and it's fixed now |
| 17:28.28 | scanlime | hehe |
| 17:28.34 | scanlime | I like the eeyore award |
| 17:28.46 | ChipX86 | I have to get two plane tickets and a hotel |
| 17:28.53 | scanlime | ooh |
| 17:28.56 | ChipX86 | and a gelco account |
| 17:29.06 | scanlime | for the gnome hoochie? |
| 17:29.49 | scanlime | tomboy needs to hyperlink bug numbers |
| 17:30.07 | ChipX86 | yep, "BosCon" as my manager calls it |
| 17:30.16 | ChipX86 | scanlime: haha, that was one of the first things I ever talked to Alex about |
| 17:30.19 | ChipX86 | back before I knew him |
| 17:30.24 | ChipX86 | we never found out a good method |
| 17:30.25 | scanlime | :) |
| 17:30.31 | ChipX86 | he wants to quit tomboy |
| 17:30.43 | scanlime | I can understand that... |
| 17:30.49 | ChipX86 | because of how bad GtkTextView sucks :( |
| 17:30.56 | scanlime | ick |
| 17:35.43 | purple_cow | ouch |
| 17:38.09 | CIA-5 | osiris-misc: 03chipx86 * r230 10graphics/ (19 files in 4 dirs): Commit all the graphics stuff that never got committed before. |
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| 17:47.31 | kergoth | wtf |
| 17:47.44 | kergoth | file: i called expansys, they said well everything is in stock but the screen protectors, which would take a while |
| 17:47.53 | kergoth | file: i said well, i had requested part shipment, when will the rest go out? |
| 17:48.02 | kergoth | file: he goes "Oh, i can have the rest sent out right now." |
| 17:48.08 | file[laptop] | lol |
| 17:48.09 | kergoth | well wtf, were they never going to ship it until i called? |
| 17:48.16 | file[laptop] | apparently |
| 17:48.52 | kergoth | oh well, i didnt raise any hell. just get me my shit, damnit |
| 17:48.55 | kergoth | i want my fucking phone |
| 17:49.09 | kergoth | whee |
| 17:49.21 | kergoth | :) |
| 17:50.07 | purple_cow | hah |
| 17:50.19 | purple_cow | first athlete's foot, then tennis elbow, now cyclist's penis |
| 17:50.32 | scanlime | that's not too surprising |
| 17:50.36 | purple_cow | nope |
| 17:50.45 | purple_cow | just a funny name they've settled on |
| 17:50.50 | kergoth | that doesnt sound very pleasant |
| 17:50.50 | scanlime | yup |
| 17:51.13 | purple_cow | kergoth: just kind of a blanket term for numbness/impotence/etc that can result from crappy seats |
| 17:52.03 | scanlime | it's probably not a good sign that I've been taking all the bugs related to this windows driver |
| 17:52.10 | kergoth | heh |
| 17:52.49 | prpplague | as they say in the hollywood biz, you've gotten typecast |
| 17:52.52 | kergoth | now that i'm employed again, maybe i should get a linode or something |
| 17:52.53 | purple_cow | linux debugging is just too easy for you |
| 17:53.06 | scanlime | purple_cow: I don't think we have any linux bugs :P |
| 17:53.14 | scanlime | all I see are windows bugs, and bugs in the UHCI core |
| 17:53.25 | purple_cow | heh |
| 17:53.29 | scanlime | and the UHCI bugs are mostly things that require speicfic hardware to reproduce |
| 17:53.31 | prpplague | kergoth: ok, i guess i'm out of the loop, linode? |
| 17:53.41 | kergoth | ~google for linode |
| 17:53.52 | prpplague | kergoth: will do |
| 17:54.10 | purple_cow | yaknow, it's less letters to just type http://linode.com ;) |
| 17:54.11 | prpplague | scanlime: yea we've been having problems with one of our usb barcode scanner modules on dell laptops |
| 17:54.22 | kergoth | purple_cow: hehe |
| 17:54.22 | scanlime | on vmware? |
| 17:55.15 | prpplague | interesting |
| 17:55.32 | scanlime | I really hate UML :( |
| 17:55.39 | purple_cow | and as long as you don't start leaking disk space or using any I/O, it's great! |
| 17:55.44 | prpplague | scanlime: no just standard blows |
| 17:56.01 | scanlime | prpplague: that's not what I'm talking about :P |
| 17:56.07 | scanlime | purple_cow: that's what I'm talking about |
| 17:56.10 | kergoth | i love uml, when it works |
| 17:56.23 | scanlime | UML is still slow and annoying when it works :P |
| 17:56.30 | prpplague | <scanlime> and the UHCI bugs are mostly things that require speicfic hardware to reproduce |
| 17:56.45 | scanlime | prpplague: ? |
| 17:56.57 | prpplague | hehe |
| 17:57.25 | prpplague | from what i used is that its a UHCI driver bug and we had to get all the specific hardware to replicate the problem |
| 17:58.08 | scanlime | this isn't a UHCI driver, it's the UHCI chip itself |
| 17:58.18 | scanlime | a software emulation of it |
| 17:58.25 | prpplague | oh gotcha |
| 17:58.41 | scanlime | we find plenty of bugs in the windows UHCI driver, but we can't fix those :P |
| 17:58.50 | prpplague | hehe yea |
| 17:58.54 | kergoth | yay, my cell phone & bluetooth headphones and stuff shipped finally |
| 17:59.00 | prpplague | neither can we, but have to work around it in our firmware |
| 17:59.50 | file[laptop] | kergoth: they should have given you next day priority shipping |
| 17:59.56 | prpplague | scanlime: http://www.barcodepower.com/m6300.asp |
| 18:00.05 | kergoth | file[laptop]: yeah, i shouldve pestered them into doing that |
| 18:00.06 | kergoth | oh well |
| 18:00.14 | prpplague | scanlime: we had to buy 4 different laptops to trace down the problem |
| 18:00.23 | kergoth | i'm at the point where i dont even care enough to yell, just give me my shit and let me move on |
| 18:00.25 | kergoth | :P |
| 18:00.31 | prpplague | scanlime: (i say 'we' but i wasn't part of that issue per se) |
| 18:01.10 | scanlime | woo. that BSOD was easy to reproduce |
| 18:01.36 | purple_cow | time to go hate school |
| 18:02.01 | prpplague | purple_cow: can i go to school and work on this luser land stuff? |
| 18:02.03 | Cae | "Brad: I need to find a web hosting company that is cheap, allows me flexibility with setting up my website, will host a domain for me that I already own, will allow me to do somekind of password authentication on parts of the website, possibly can stream video...maybe something else I can't think of right now." |
| 18:02.06 | Cae | recommendations? |
| 18:02.07 | prpplague | i/you |
| 18:17.37 | Cae | ChipX86: poke |
| 18:17.44 | ChipX86 | eep |
| 18:17.51 | ChipX86 | heading out in like 2 minutes. What's up? |
| 18:18.14 | Cae | any recommendations on web hosting, as per requirements listed just above? |
| 18:18.43 | ChipX86 | the only thing I'm familiar with these days is linode |
| 18:18.48 | Cae | or just general recommendations at all |
| 18:18.49 | ChipX86 | and that's more of a do-it-yourself web hosting service |
| 18:18.52 | Cae | humm. |
| 18:19.11 | ChipX86 | got to take off |
| 18:19.23 | ChipX86 | I'll be back within the hour |
| 18:19.29 | Cae | have fun |
| 18:33.55 | kergoth | yay dropkick murphys |
| 18:33.56 | Cae | hm. must find killepitsch. |
| 18:33.56 | Cae | spec's has it.. |
| 18:39.40 | Cae | "German herbal liqueur made from 90 fruits." yep..that's it.. |
| 18:39.46 | Cae | hmm |
| 18:40.31 | Cae | $25.06 / 750mL from spec's. |
| 18:42.19 | kergoth | herbal liqueur, eh? |
| 18:43.02 | Cae | it's one ingredient of a particular martini that I really really like |
| 18:43.12 | kergoth | ah |
| 18:43.15 | kergoth | sounds cool |
| 18:43.35 | Cae | it mixes well. haven't tasted it by itself. |
| 18:43.58 | kergoth | my grandpa died like a week or two ago.. he was cremated, and made it quite clear that he didnt want a service, but did want a party |
| 18:44.03 | Cae | heh |
| 18:44.04 | kergoth | so we all got drunk & high .. for my grandpa |
| 18:44.08 | kergoth | thats how i want to go out :P |
| 18:44.24 | kergoth | told stories and all |
| 18:44.30 | Cae | cool |
| 18:44.44 | kergoth | yeah, celebrating life rather than standing around feeling sorry for ourselves |
| 18:44.49 | kergoth | Good Thing(tm) |
| 18:49.26 | scanlime | I still have FF7 music stuck in my head |
| 18:49.58 | nullpuppy | :) |
| 18:50.09 | Cae | hmm.. |
| 18:50.41 | Cae | advent children was really pretty |
| 18:53.08 | scanlime | yes |
| 18:53.18 | scanlime | hmm, that's disconcerting.. parts of the NT kernel are pageable |
| 18:53.30 | Cae | heh |
| 18:53.36 | scanlime | it has unicode, for example, but you can't use it at IRQL_DISPATCH_LEVEL |
| 18:53.47 | scanlime | since unicode can page in and out of the kernel's address space |
| 18:53.49 | scanlime | funky |
| 19:05.09 | ChipX86 | back |
| 19:05.54 | file | I have no contact info... none... for one of our providers |
| 19:06.46 | scanlime | mmm fruit |
| 19:06.59 | ChipX86 | nobody's here |
| 19:07.09 | scanlime | what a stupid bug... |
| 19:09.33 | ChipX86 | brought my laptop into work today.. disabling every power management feature to see if I can use it without it dying |
| 19:10.37 | scanlime | are they sending you a new one yet? |
| 19:11.07 | ChipX86 | I haven't heard back from them :/ |
| 19:11.21 | ChipX86 | going to call probably Thursday if I don't hear from them by then |
| 19:17.00 | file | woot ringing |
| 19:17.13 | CIA-5 | numi-misc: 03numist * r138 10numist.net/ (21 files in 8 dirs): more plugins :D |
| 19:19.05 | file | WOOT! |
| 19:19.07 | file | I got the right person |
| 19:19.11 | file | I got the president of the company |
| 19:20.53 | ChipX86 | ? |
| 19:21.27 | file | needed to call one of our providers |
| 19:21.44 | file | and had no contact info ;) and I managed to get the president, who could actually help me |
| 19:28.20 | ChipX86 | damnit |
| 19:28.26 | ChipX86 | I may have screwed up for the boston thing |
| 19:29.08 | file | :( |
| 19:32.35 | ChipX86 | damnit |
| 19:36.22 | ChipX86 | my username *must* be the first 5 letters of my last name and the first letter of my first name, no exceptions. |
| 19:36.25 | ChipX86 | except that's taken. |
| 19:40.36 | file | hammoc is taken? |
| 19:40.59 | ChipX86 | yep |
| 19:41.10 | file | well that's evil |
| 19:41.54 | nullpuppy | owww... soooo broke... |
| 19:46.35 | ChipX86 | are you still doing the beer thing? |
| 19:49.52 | CIA-5 | smrt: 03jupiter * r71 10prototype/ (4 files in 4 dirs): lots of progress on getting this to run |
| 19:50.36 | darth_mall | and yomiko |
| 19:57.34 | *** join/#tacobeam Veight (i=Veight@c-24-118-220-75.hsd1.mn.comcast.net) |
| 19:57.37 | Veight | hello |
| 19:57.41 | darth_mall | liar |
| 19:57.52 | Veight | bye then :P |
| 19:57.59 | darth_mall | oh noes! |
| 19:58.14 | Veight | homework blows :( |
| 19:58.17 | kergoth | morning Veight |
| 19:59.24 | file[laptop] | Veight!!! |
| 19:59.31 | Veight | file! |
| 19:59.39 | kergoth | work sucks |
| 19:59.44 | Veight | haha :P |
| 19:59.52 | Veight | hmm |
| 19:59.58 | Veight | i got homework so its even |
| 20:00.03 | kergoth | Veight: expansys finally shipped my phone and shit today |
| 20:00.13 | Veight | finaly |
| 20:00.21 | kergoth | Veight: i had to call them, and i say 'i requested part shipment.. when will it be shipped?' |
| 20:00.27 | kergoth | Veight: he goes 'oh, i can do that right now.' |
| 20:00.29 | Veight | anyone know of a Calculator for windows that isnt as basic as the built in one? |
| 20:00.33 | kergoth | Veight: well wtf, apparently they werent sending it until i called :P |
| 20:00.36 | ChipX86 | scanlime: I recommend getting your gelco and american express stuff set up now, just in case you ever need it :P |
| 20:00.40 | ChipX86 | this is no fun |
| 20:00.52 | scanlime | heh |
| 20:01.26 | file[laptop] | american express? are they making a come back? |
| 20:01.30 | ChipX86 | we use them |
| 20:01.39 | kergoth | amex is commonly used for corporate credit cards |
| 20:01.42 | kergoth | i had one at ti too |
| 20:01.44 | file[laptop] | ah |
| 20:01.48 | file[laptop] | that's who we use too... |
| 20:01.53 | kergoth | heh |
| 20:01.58 | kergoth | ~herring file[laptop] |
| 20:01.59 | jbot | ACTION whacks file[laptop] on the side of the head with a large red herring named alfred |
| 20:02.07 | file[laptop] | woot get to pick out new hardware for servers next week |
| 20:02.26 | file[laptop] | 7 single opterons, and a quad opteron |
| 20:02.58 | file[laptop] | with Sangoma quad port cards... to make all of our problems go away! |
| 20:02.59 | kergoth | nice |
| 20:03.10 | file[laptop] | no more frame slips on the T1s |
| 20:03.23 | kergoth | bleh, its only tuesday? |
| 20:03.24 | kergoth | damnit |
| 20:03.28 | kergoth | this week needs to end already |
| 20:03.37 | file[laptop] | you could fall asleep for the entire week |
| 20:03.39 | scanlime | going that well already? |
| 20:03.52 | kergoth | nothing went right yesterday, and today isnt muchb etter :( |
| 20:04.05 | file[laptop] | maybe Wednesday is the day that will turn around everything |
| 20:04.10 | kergoth | maybe |
| 20:05.40 | ChipX86 | it's raining |
| 20:06.34 | scanlime | woww |
| 20:06.37 | scanlime | it rains here! |
| 20:06.41 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 20:06.44 | scanlime | and I thought your sky was empty... |
| 20:06.49 | file[laptop] | is it acid rain? |
| 20:10.29 | scanlime | ooh, new error |
| 20:10.39 | scanlime | "A device driver attempting to corrupt the system has been caught" |
| 20:10.47 | scanlime | how dare that device driver! |
| 20:11.20 | CIA-5 | smrt: 03jupiter * r72 10prototype/ (data/lg3d.conf lib/escher-0.2.2.lg.jar smrt): import escher into the tree |
| 20:22.45 | kergoth | <Tlaloc> obra: about 80-95% speed up for smerge switch and info |
| 20:22.45 | kergoth | <Tlaloc> They basically become near instantaneous |
| 20:22.46 | kergoth | woo |
| 20:27.44 | kergoth | http://www.bieberlabs.com/wordpress/archives/2005/03/18/sourceforge-to-offer-subversion-service |
| 20:27.45 | kergoth | ooh |
| 20:31.21 | CIA-5 | smrt: 03jupiter * r73 10prototype/ (lib/libdso.so smrt): more progress towards runningfulness |
| 20:35.23 | CIA-5 | smrt: 03jupiter * r74 10prototype/smrt: actually give it the lg display variable |
| 20:35.44 | scanlime | ooh, thunders |
| 20:51.40 | scanlime | hehe |
| 20:51.48 | scanlime | Dustin's interested in building a laser projector thingy now... |
| 20:55.23 | *** join/#tacobeam pagefault (n=pagefaul@66.199.241.90) |
| 20:59.35 | file | hi pagefault |
| 21:00.37 | scanlime | need caffeine... |
| 21:03.42 | numist | so, the 9th time? |
| 21:03.57 | kergoth | trac is neat |
| 21:03.58 | kergoth | https://opensvn.csie.org/traccgi/Ace/trac.cgi/changeset/5 |
| 21:04.46 | pagefault | hey file |
| 21:05.09 | file | yay finished |
| 21:13.25 | file | this provider is so specific on routes it's not funny |
| 21:13.38 | file | there's literally 151243 entries |
| 21:15.09 | ChipX86 | yay for thunder and lightning |
| 21:15.19 | ChipX86 | it feels a lot later than it is |
| 21:15.29 | scanlime | yeah |
| 21:15.32 | scanlime | woo, another bug down |
| 21:15.40 | scanlime | after the code review, that is |
| 21:18.26 | pagefault | WHATS UP MAN |
| 21:18.28 | pagefault | err |
| 21:18.29 | pagefault | caps |
| 21:18.34 | ChipX86 | HI PAGEFAULT |
| 21:18.41 | pagefault | hehe |
| 21:19.10 | ChipX86 | yay, I kind of have a Gelco account |
| 21:19.11 | pagefault | going home now |
| 21:19.11 | pagefault | bbl |
| 21:19.40 | file | yay gelco |
| 21:19.42 | file | whatever that is |
| 21:20.10 | ChipX86 | I just saved hundreds of dollars on my travel expenses by switching to gelco |
| 21:20.23 | scanlime | hehe |
| 21:20.48 | scanlime | so sad... |
| 21:20.57 | scanlime | 6 bugs I can close once these code reviews go through |
| 21:22.10 | ChipX86 | I have no idea who my controller is |
| 21:22.25 | ChipX86 | I assume the person who I give this paper to signs this |
| 21:22.36 | ChipX86 | the instructions tell me to fax this form |
| 21:22.42 | ChipX86 | but that person can't be more than a hundred feet away |
| 21:23.46 | ChipX86 | ah yep, this person is the controller, whatever that means |
| 21:24.03 | ChipX86 | but this person has a freaky-weird room number |
| 21:27.44 | file | AHA... success |
| 21:47.00 | nullpuppy | hmm... any of you used pcsx2/ |
| 21:49.57 | ChipX86 | lots of thunder and lightning |
| 21:50.05 | ChipX86 | scanlime: oh, are you coming to the hackfest? |
| 21:50.18 | scanlime | thinking about it |
| 21:50.30 | scanlime | I'm not sure I'll get much done with only my laptop, but it could be fun |
| 21:50.38 | scanlime | er |
| 21:50.40 | ChipX86 | it's very informal |
| 21:50.42 | scanlime | and I don't even have my laptop with me |
| 21:50.45 | ChipX86 | eep |
| 21:50.49 | scanlime | so I'd have to go back home for that anyway |
| 21:52.49 | numist | hackfest? |
| 21:53.33 | CIA-5 | numi-misc: 03numist * r139 10numist.net/ (13 files in 3 dirs): add a turing test... |
| 21:54.53 | ChipX86 | man, it's just constant |
| 21:55.01 | numist | John's mother says: We are having Reeves' body cremated and then we have hired a plane, George and I will go up with the pilot and they have a special mechanism to scatter the ashes off the coast of southern CA an area we flew with Reeves many times. We are not having a service. |
| 21:55.06 | numist | :( |
| 21:55.22 | numist | well, they're doing exactly what he would have wanted |
| 21:55.42 | kergoth | :\ |
| 21:56.06 | ChipX86 | :( |
| 21:56.10 | kergoth | er, i forgot to eat lunch |
| 21:56.15 | kergoth | its 5pm |
| 21:56.34 | ChipX86 | people are doing a poor job of assigning me bugs :( |
| 21:56.38 | kergoth | :( |
| 21:57.01 | ChipX86 | no, that's not true actually, I wrote some before I came in |
| 21:58.46 | scanlime | blah.. silly UI... |
| 21:58.56 | ChipX86 | the UI is perfect in every way! |
| 21:59.53 | ChipX86 | it's only 3? |
| 22:00.06 | ChipX86 | this is the slowest day ever |
| 22:03.03 | file | so help me if I break the rate tables |
| 22:07.22 | purple_cow | http://www.deadlyhippos.com/columns/ot_int.htm |
| 22:14.16 | ChipX86 | it's so cold outside |
| 22:15.42 | purple_cow | ~weather 94301 |
| 22:15.50 | purple_cow | oh, right |
| 22:15.54 | ChipX86 | ~weather 94306 |
| 22:16.06 | purple_cow | that's a different bot |
| 22:16.10 | ChipX86 | bah |
| 22:16.20 | nullpuppy | ~weather 98012 |
| 22:16.26 | purple_cow | ~weather KPAO |
| 22:16.43 | purple_cow | 66F is "so cold" ? |
| 22:16.52 | ChipX86 | when you're covered in rain water it is |
| 22:16.59 | ChipX86 | and standing out in it for 15 mins |
| 22:16.59 | purple_cow | poh |
| 22:17.11 | ChipX86 | cold is a relative term. It's cold for me :P |
| 22:17.13 | ChipX86 | we don't have snow around here |
| 22:17.21 | purple_cow | OMG |
| 22:17.22 | purple_cow | http://www.virtualapple.com/oregontraildisk.html |
| 22:17.38 | nullpuppy | ~weather KPAE |
| 22:18.08 | ChipX86 | uh oh |
| 22:18.09 | purple_cow | hrm, it's not loading |
| 22:18.12 | ChipX86 | I bet I broke main |
| 22:18.18 | nullpuppy | yay! |
| 22:18.54 | ChipX86 | maybe not |
| 22:19.14 | nullpuppy | aww |
| 22:21.35 | scanlime | purple_cow: it's ActiveX :P |
| 22:21.50 | ChipX86 | wow that was a big one |
| 22:21.50 | scanlime | but the floppy images download fine for me |
| 22:21.54 | scanlime | ChipX86: yeah |
| 22:23.09 | purple_cow | ah |
| 22:24.25 | ChipX86 | in retrospect, shorts weren't the best idea for today |
| 22:25.49 | scanlime | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:25.49 | scanlime | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:25.49 | scanlime | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:25.49 | scanlime | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:25.52 | scanlime | beautiful. |
| 22:26.06 | ChipX86 | heh |
| 22:26.10 | scanlime | that's from linux.. wonder what windows does :P |
| 22:32.44 | ChipX86 | "If we're going to duplicate code they should at least do the same thing." --Edward Wang |
| 22:32.54 | scanlime | hehe |
| 22:38.15 | kergoth`food | note to self: dont go get food for lunch during rush hour |
| 22:41.13 | scanlime | what the... |
| 22:41.28 | nullpuppy | oh, scanlime btw.. I noticed the other day that my ps2 gives the smae wierd edges on my tv :/ |
| 22:41.30 | file | I'm about to hit the database HARD |
| 22:41.36 | nullpuppy | I htink my tv just sucks :( |
| 22:41.57 | file | Updates: 881 Inserts: 5867 |
| 22:42.09 | nullpuppy | hehe |
| 22:42.24 | file | this is gonna be great LOL |
| 22:42.35 | purple_cow | LOL! |
| 22:42.50 | scanlime | LOLLLLLZZOMGWTFBBQIHOP! |
| 22:42.56 | file | OMGWTFHI!!! |
| 22:43.04 | kergoth`food | nullpuppy: i'm working on convincing a bunch of wow addon developers that use ace to start using subversion :) |
| 22:43.12 | file | kergoth`food: our database is holding on by a thread |
| 22:43.13 | nullpuppy | w00t :) |
| 22:43.17 | ChipX86 | kergoth`food: need packaging system! |
| 22:43.23 | file | and I didn't mean that literally! |
| 22:43.24 | kergoth`food | ChipX86: yes |
| 22:43.30 | ChipX86 | with patch support |
| 22:43.54 | ChipX86 | version-dependent patches |
| 22:44.16 | kergoth`food | last night i wrote an addon that lets me get notified on a change of any arbitrary variable in wow. i watched how many times monkeyquest read its config variable when i opened my inventory :) |
| 22:44.32 | ChipX86 | hah |
| 22:45.16 | kergoth`food | has anyone here messed with 'trac' much? |
| 22:45.19 | kergoth`food | it seems pretty badass |
| 22:45.27 | ChipX86 | I've heard good things |
| 22:45.34 | ChipX86 | I want to use it |
| 22:45.39 | ChipX86 | except I'd want to stay with mediawiki |
| 22:45.50 | kergoth`food | nod |
| 22:46.08 | kergoth`food | https://opensvn.csie.org/ is a free svn service provider that sets up trac for each project too :) |
| 22:46.11 | kergoth`food | pretty slick |
| 22:46.12 | nullpuppy | kergoth`food: i tried to look at the link you posteed earlier, but.. 403 ... ;) |
| 22:46.49 | kergoth`food | <illitrate> hahaahahaa - first time i've flown anywhere since i installed a recent copy of boogiebox - and yay!!! there be music of the chocobo's!!!! i hadn't realised how much i'd missed not having that |
| 22:46.52 | kergoth`food | haha, thats awesome |
| 22:47.09 | ChipX86 | I still need to try that |
| 22:48.44 | scanlime | hrmph |
| 22:49.06 | scanlime | if linux sees more than 7 ports on a UHCI controller, it assumes there are really only 2 |
| 22:49.41 | ChipX86 | ick |
| 22:50.44 | kergoth`food | i went to scp something to my house and typed svk instead |
| 22:52.12 | kergoth`food | ooh! |
| 22:52.13 | kergoth`food | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-interface-customization&t=208794&p=4 |
| 22:52.17 | kergoth`food | ChipX86: check that out :) |
| 22:53.02 | purple_cow | oog |
| 22:53.07 | purple_cow | lg3d has their own build of xorg? |
| 22:55.12 | nullpuppy | w00t |
| 22:57.58 | nullpuppy | awww, ffvii won't load in pcsx2 :/ |
| 23:01.11 | ChipX86 | ooh, sunlight |
| 23:02.14 | scanlime | hehe, Dan was in here telling me that a little thunder storm like that tends to freak out people here... seems perfectly tame coming from CO |
| 23:02.24 | ChipX86 | kergoth`food: woah, that's awesome |
| 23:02.30 | ChipX86 | go Blizzard |
| 23:02.49 | CIA-5 | smrt: 03jupiter * r75 10prototype/ (data/lg3d.conf smrt): turn off x11 integration for now, add a call to rmiregistry, whatever that is |
| 23:20.24 | ChipX86 | * ALT-TAB out of game and back again will no longer reset UI scale. |
| 23:20.25 | ChipX86 | yay! |
| 23:21.20 | ChipX86 | yay cookie |
| 23:21.35 | file[laptop] | I suppose I should do this as a transaction |
| 23:22.15 | kergoth`food | yay, home |
| 23:22.33 | file[laptop] | yay kergoth |
| 23:22.40 | kergoth`food | ChipX86: some people are talking about replacing all the blizzard xml and lua with addons. completely replacing every aspect of the ui we can, and wrapping their apis in something sane :P |
| 23:22.40 | scanlime | what a great architecture x86 is.. |
| 23:22.50 | ChipX86 | kergoth`food: :) |
| 23:23.01 | scanlime | where "lea eax, [eax+ebx*2+0x0E]" is one instruction |
| 23:28.41 | ChipX86 | kergoth: I have a hard time imaginging why you'd want to reposition the world frame |
| 23:28.56 | ChipX86 | unless you're going to turn WoW into a desktop environment and make the world frame just one little app in it |
| 23:29.14 | kergoth | ChipX86: people are talking about shrinking it to gain performance. you'd keep your wide/large fancy ui bits, but be able to shrink the rendered world to boost frame rates |
| 23:32.06 | ChipX86 | silly reason |
| 23:32.11 | ChipX86 | we should make it a desktop environment |
| 23:32.15 | kergoth | hehe |
| 23:32.17 | ChipX86 | who wants to write the file manager? I'll make the spreadsheet |
| 23:32.22 | ChipX86 | we can tie accountant into it |
| 23:32.24 | kergoth | hahaha |
| 23:32.26 | ChipX86 | and make graphs from it |
| 23:32.28 | kergoth | god, that sick |
| 23:32.48 | ChipX86 | we just need a web browser.. |
| 23:32.58 | ChipX86 | and then integrate the world map with google maps |
| 23:33.17 | kergoth | haha, use google maps to get directions in wow |
| 23:33.21 | ChipX86 | yep |
| 23:33.27 | file[laptop] | sick! |
| 23:33.30 | brc_ | hi file |
| 23:33.36 | brc_ | or file[laptop] as the case may be |
| 23:33.50 | file[laptop] | hello brc |
| 23:33.55 | brc_ | sup |
| 23:34.07 | brc_ | oh |
| 23:34.09 | brc_ | that's interesting |
| 23:34.19 | file[laptop] | contemplating loading these 5000 queries into the db as a transaction and watching it yell at me |
| 23:34.22 | file[laptop] | u? |
| 23:34.40 | brc_ | writing fricking papers for my eng class |
| 23:34.41 | brc_ | uggh |
| 23:34.48 | file[laptop] | 'tsk 'tsk |
| 23:34.53 | brc_ | due tomorrow |
| 23:34.58 | brc_ | actually, due last friday |
| 23:35.01 | brc_ | *SIGH* |
| 23:35.10 | brc_ | fyi, don't go to PDC |
| 23:35.11 | brc_ | it sucks |
| 23:35.18 | file[laptop] | less IRC, more english writing |
| 23:35.34 | brc_ | microsoft's professional developers conference |
| 23:35.48 | brc_ | ya kno? |
| 23:35.49 | brc_ | guess not |
| 23:36.20 | brc_ | I dunno why the hell I don't have these done |
| 23:36.25 | brc_ | not like I've done anythign else all day |
| 23:36.43 | brc_ | come to think of it |
| 23:36.46 | brc_ | why am I on irc |
| 23:45.34 | brc_ | byebye |
| 23:46.42 | CIA-5 | covenant-misc: 03kergoth * r12 10rrdlua/rrdclass.lua: Change the rrd API a bit to require explicitly adding a DS or RRA to an RRD. |
| 23:48.52 | CIA-5 | covenant-misc: 03kergoth * r13 10rrdlua/rrdclass.lua: Add inline documentation for add_ds and add_rra. |
| 23:52.37 | ChipX86 | scanlime: real winner in #vmware |
| 23:53.58 | scanlime | I think he's a creep already :P |
| 23:54.03 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 23:54.06 | scanlime | and kinda weird |
| 23:54.12 | ChipX86 | not new to IRC, he says? Yet he can't decide on a nick. |
| 23:58.58 | ChipX86 | scanlime: oh, this is in San Jose |
| 23:59.03 | ChipX86 | so your house should be on the way there |
| 23:59.41 | scanlime | ChipX86: ah, ok |
| 23:59.53 | scanlime | oh, it got late didn't it... |
| 23:59.59 | ChipX86 | somehow |
