| 00:00.42 | *** join/#tacobeam pagefault (i=Eric@HSE-Quebec-City-ppp128702.qc.sympatico.ca) |
| 00:06.23 | pagefault | I just got home |
| 00:06.25 | pagefault | I feel like passing out |
| 00:06.33 | file[laptop] | good idea |
| 00:06.37 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10BZFlagG3D/ (8 files in 7 dirs): ortho mode and stuff like that |
| 00:06.45 | pagefault | been up since 6 AM |
| 00:08.20 | pagefault | ugh no more |
| 00:08.25 | pagefault | already had too much today |
| 00:10.10 | CIA-5 | numi-misc: 03numist * r131 10sdcolleges/ (7 files in 2 dirs): this ought to be usable... |
| 00:23.23 | darth_mall | haha |
| 00:23.30 | darth_mall | Cloud's cell phone looks like my razr ^^ |
| 00:23.50 | pagefault | I need to download that |
| 00:25.08 | pagefault | is it any good? |
| 00:33.16 | pagefault | I hate bell's DNS servers |
| 00:35.10 | pagefault | ugh I hate the windows command line |
| 00:35.14 | pagefault | it's so not useful |
| 00:42.56 | scanlime | whew, it's been a busy week |
| 00:43.04 | scanlime | and this is a good stopping point... time for home methinks |
| 00:43.19 | rioter | pagefault download msh |
| 00:51.39 | pagefault | whats thatr |
| 00:57.10 | zak_gone | bleh. i'm tired now. |
| 00:59.57 | Sophie[sick] | pagefault: was that for me or d_m? |
| 01:00.27 | Sophie[sick] | http://www.sophiesmusic.com/ |
| 01:00.38 | Sophie[sick] | there's a couple of tracks on my website |
| 01:00.40 | pagefault | uh |
| 01:00.41 | pagefault | what |
| 01:00.43 | pagefault | confused |
| 01:00.54 | Sophie[sick] | <pagefault> I need to download that |
| 01:00.54 | Sophie[sick] | <pagefault> is it any good? |
| 01:01.05 | pagefault | oh I mean the ff7 movie |
| 01:01.13 | Sophie[sick] | oh, gotcha |
| 01:02.22 | zak | Sophie[sick]: get better. |
| 01:05.38 | zak | ooo, i can read it now... |
| 01:05.47 | zak | stupid normal settings being white on white. |
| 01:13.06 | pagefault | poor Sophie[sick] |
| 01:13.09 | pagefault | get some chicken soup |
| 01:13.20 | pagefault | chicken soup is good for the soul |
| 01:13.25 | pagefault | and I hear it cures stuff too |
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| 01:24.03 | purple_cow | owwww |
| 01:32.34 | kergoth | hehe |
| 01:34.47 | rioter | round is a shape :P |
| 01:36.18 | purple_cow | the crappy thing is that i look like i'm in shape, i just can't actually prove it now :P |
| 01:37.34 | rioter | getting fit is alot eaiser than getting in shape though, so yuor in luck! |
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| 01:46.04 | darth_mall | holy crap that movie rocks |
| 01:49.09 | kergoth | hee, the new battlegrounds in wow is so awesome |
| 01:49.12 | kergoth | its like warcraft 2 |
| 01:49.28 | kergoth | you capture and defend gold mines and stuff, and the side taht collects the most resources from holding them, wins |
| 01:49.54 | kergoth | pagefault: have you played AB yet? |
| 01:50.49 | pagefault | no |
| 01:50.55 | pagefault | no one on my server wants to BG |
| 01:50.56 | pagefault | :( |
| 01:51.02 | kergoth | :( |
| 01:51.06 | kergoth | its sooo much fun |
| 01:51.06 | pagefault | not even warsong |
| 01:51.10 | pagefault | not a single instance going |
| 01:51.12 | pagefault | I got pissed off |
| 01:51.17 | kergoth | nonstop action, capturing and losing resources |
| 01:51.19 | kergoth | jeeze |
| 01:51.25 | kergoth | warsong used to be really really active on suramar |
| 01:51.26 | pagefault | I want to transfer so badly |
| 01:51.28 | kergoth | now its all about arathi |
| 01:51.41 | kergoth | you should bribe the developer |
| 01:51.42 | kergoth | s |
| 01:51.51 | pagefault | I might just say screw it and work on my suramar char |
| 01:52.24 | pagefault | what good is new content if no one play sit |
| 01:52.27 | pagefault | err it |
| 01:52.49 | pagefault | I was just really pissed of |
| 01:52.56 | pagefault | not a single active instance |
| 01:53.01 | pagefault | like wtf? |
| 01:53.47 | kergoth | :( |
| 01:54.04 | kergoth | 5650 xp for turning in a resource crate from an AB win at levels 50-59 :) |
| 01:54.05 | pagefault | also cosmos seems to make your keyboard not work in WOW |
| 01:54.16 | kergoth | aw, only 2800 after that |
| 01:54.20 | kergoth | 5650 was the first one :) |
| 01:54.21 | kergoth | :( |
| 01:54.23 | kergoth | that sucks |
| 01:54.27 | pagefault | I got desperate for an addon and installed it |
| 01:54.28 | pagefault | :P |
| 01:54.34 | kergoth | you s hould try the current set from my svn |
| 01:54.38 | kergoth | almost everything is fixed |
| 01:55.03 | pagefault | yeah I will check that out soon |
| 01:55.45 | pagefault | I really don't know what to do with my warlock |
| 01:55.46 | kergoth | *gasp* |
| 01:55.50 | pagefault | the new talent changes are really tempting |
| 01:55.54 | pagefault | but I really don't want to give up dark pact |
| 01:56.02 | kergoth | the gear you get from honored and stuff with ab is aweomse |
| 01:56.04 | kergoth | :) |
| 01:56.14 | kergoth | waist armor for a hunter/shaman that adds 1% to crit |
| 01:56.16 | kergoth | mmm |
| 01:56.23 | pagefault | crap |
| 01:56.24 | pagefault | thats nice |
| 01:56.25 | darth_mall | oh man |
| 01:56.29 | pagefault | where is url for stuff |
| 01:56.46 | pagefault | crit gear is my friend |
| 01:57.17 | pagefault | they totally screwed up the warlock pets again |
| 01:57.27 | kergoth | theres also a trinket that absorbs 495-605 physical damage for 15 sec |
| 01:57.28 | pagefault | succubus has auto cast invisibility now |
| 01:57.38 | darth_mall | anyone who liked FF7 *needs* to see Advent Children |
| 01:57.40 | kergoth | ooh, at revered, theres a 3 item set :) |
| 01:57.41 | pagefault | but when you use dark pact to drain mana, she comes out of invisibility and casts it again |
| 01:57.43 | pagefault | so it burns mana |
| 01:57.56 | kergoth | ooh! |
| 01:58.00 | kergoth | boots that increase run speed slightly! |
| 01:58.08 | kergoth | man, i wonder if that stacks with the enchant |
| 01:58.08 | pagefault | I don't like stuff that burns mana |
| 01:58.12 | kergoth | '/me nods |
| 01:58.13 | pagefault | stuff that burns mana is lame |
| 01:58.14 | pagefault | heh |
| 01:58.19 | pagefault | ooh speed |
| 01:58.24 | pagefault | darth_mall, yeah I need to getit |
| 01:58.30 | kergoth | *gasp* |
| 01:58.31 | pagefault | how is the translation? |
| 01:58.32 | kergoth | pagefault: |
| 01:58.38 | kergoth | at exalted with them |
| 01:58.39 | darth_mall | the rip I got is pretty good |
| 01:58.51 | darth_mall | there were two subs in there that had all kinds of trailing garbage |
| 01:58.54 | darth_mall | but that's it |
| 01:58.59 | kergoth | staff, 55.8dps, 100 armor, 19 sta, 10 int, 2% to spell crit, damage & healing with spells by 41 |
| 01:59.01 | kergoth | :) |
| 01:59.02 | pagefault | I think it's amazing they made a FF movie actually based on a game |
| 01:59.18 | darth_mall | it's beyond words |
| 01:59.19 | ChipX86 | back |
| 01:59.24 | kergoth | dagger, +8 sta, 40 armor, damage & healing by 30, spell crit by 1% |
| 01:59.26 | ChipX86 | you guys know how IBM said I was being billed $700? |
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| 01:59.50 | scanlime | yay, FF7 |
| 01:59.59 | scanlime | and yay.. this TV isn't going anywhere >:) |
| 01:59.59 | pagefault | kergoth, thats crazy |
| 02:00.03 | pagefault | wtf |
| 02:00.08 | pagefault | that is so crazy |
| 02:00.21 | scanlime | two big bolts holding it onto the TV stand, and a bracket with a 50lb drywall anchor holding the stand to the wall |
| 02:00.22 | pagefault | that should be a relic |
| 02:00.41 | kergoth | ooh, and you know the warsong supply kit you get when you reach honored with wsg? |
| 02:00.46 | pagefault | yeah |
| 02:00.47 | kergoth | with the really nice food that heals and gives you mana |
| 02:00.52 | pagefault | bah |
| 02:00.55 | pagefault | I get that from argent dawn already |
| 02:00.56 | pagefault | :P |
| 02:00.56 | kergoth | you can _buy_ that food from the supply officer |
| 02:00.59 | kergoth | ah nice |
| 02:00.59 | kergoth | hehe |
| 02:01.03 | pagefault | enriched mana biscuit |
| 02:01.04 | pagefault | :P |
| 02:01.33 | pagefault | they drop like crazy in the eastern plaguelands |
| 02:01.44 | ChipX86 | back again |
| 02:02.00 | ChipX86 | ok, so they told me $700 flat and asked for my credit card number |
| 02:02.08 | ChipX86 | and then they charge $769 to my credit card |
| 02:02.08 | laodamas | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:02.18 | ChipX86 | they broke a verbal contract |
| 02:02.27 | pagefault | thats lame |
| 02:02.42 | pagefault | leveno really messed up the IBM name |
| 02:02.48 | ChipX86 | going to use that as a basis to get all my money back |
| 02:02.54 | ChipX86 | that and they gave me a broken laptop and refused to fix it |
| 02:02.56 | kergoth | pagefault: heh, you should join #nakedandfamous so we can talk about wow somewhere other than here |
| 02:03.00 | ChipX86 | after lying to me on the phone |
| 02:03.12 | kergoth | ChipX86: damn man |
| 02:03.14 | kergoth | thats fucked up |
| 02:03.22 | ChipX86 | Mr. Bubbles will hopefully be able to fix all this though |
| 02:03.51 | purple_cow | ChipX86: :( |
| 02:03.56 | purple_cow | Mr. Bubbles? |
| 02:06.11 | ChipX86 | my case worker at IBM |
| 02:06.11 | ChipX86 | IBM/Lenovo |
| 02:06.25 | ChipX86 | he has power, from what I'm told, over the support and sales and stuff and has the ability to get me a new laptop probably |
| 02:06.37 | ChipX86 | he's the guy they send in when things go wrong |
| 02:06.39 | scanlime | ChipX86: good luck |
| 02:06.41 | ChipX86 | hence Mr. Bubbles |
| 02:06.46 | ChipX86 | (Lilo & Stitch) |
| 02:06.59 | scanlime | hrm.. this hole saw has a completely different mounting widgey than my other hole saws :( |
| 02:07.09 | scanlime | hehe.. I watched that for the first time a couple days ago |
| 02:07.17 | ChipX86 | :) |
| 02:07.23 | ChipX86 | I like that movie |
| 02:08.13 | scanlime | me too |
| 02:08.24 | scanlime | bah. this means another trip to home depot... |
| 02:08.29 | ChipX86 | :( |
| 02:13.29 | ChipX86 | I can't believe what some of these SNES and N64 systems are going for on ebay |
| 02:13.55 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03evan * r8905 10motion/py/ (Test/test_dance.py test.py): Some of the test stuff I was working on earlier and forgot to commit |
| 02:14.10 | pagefault | hehe |
| 02:14.12 | pagefault | yeah |
| 02:14.15 | pagefault | I got a new one |
| 02:14.17 | pagefault | for like |
| 02:14.18 | pagefault | $40 |
| 02:14.24 | pagefault | almost new |
| 02:14.27 | ChipX86 | no, I mean the outrageous prices |
| 02:14.28 | pagefault | it's in mint condition |
| 02:14.34 | pagefault | but I think I scored |
| 02:14.39 | ChipX86 | Mario World + SNES + 1 controller for $60 is not a good deal to me |
| 02:14.42 | pagefault | yeah |
| 02:14.44 | pagefault | thats crazy |
| 02:14.52 | pagefault | this was a good find |
| 02:14.56 | pagefault | I wanted a clean system |
| 02:15.01 | pagefault | not yellowed by smoke and stuff |
| 02:15.08 | ChipX86 | I'd pay $60 for a lot of these if I didn't find half the games to be crappy |
| 02:15.09 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 02:15.22 | lurgy | hmm |
| 02:15.22 | pagefault | I think it's only been used like a few time |
| 02:15.24 | pagefault | err times |
| 02:15.27 | pagefault | it looks brand new |
| 02:15.33 | lurgy | so apparently i'm signed up to interview for a wheel of fortune audition with my mom.. |
| 02:15.41 | darth_mall | yay |
| 02:15.41 | ChipX86 | hah |
| 02:15.43 | ChipX86 | weird |
| 02:15.44 | darth_mall | go lurgy go lurgy |
| 02:15.44 | file | lurgy: sweet! |
| 02:15.49 | ChipX86 | I dreamt about being on wheel of fortune last night |
| 02:15.53 | pagefault | looking brand new or he cleaned it up really well |
| 02:15.56 | pagefault | either way |
| 02:16.00 | lurgy | hehe |
| 02:16.02 | pagefault | cleaned up is good too :P as long as I don't have to do it |
| 02:16.14 | lurgy | ChipX86: so scanlime's bringing you when he comes back, right? :P |
| 02:16.29 | pagefault | I cleaned up my NES the other day |
| 02:16.31 | ChipX86 | nope |
| 02:16.31 | pagefault | it looks nic |
| 02:16.32 | pagefault | err nice |
| 02:16.34 | pagefault | :P |
| 02:16.42 | lurgy | ChipX86: for shame! |
| 02:16.44 | lurgy | ChipX86: make him |
| 02:16.59 | ChipX86 | ah-ha. Found the one I want. There's no way it'll stay anywhere near this price though |
| 02:17.31 | purple_cow | i had yet more bizzare dreams last night, but they've all been forgotten now |
| 02:17.50 | ChipX86 | purple_cow: welcome to my hell |
| 02:17.55 | lurgy | hmm |
| 02:17.57 | lurgy | hehe |
| 02:17.58 | ChipX86 | except mine are usually about really disturbing things |
| 02:18.04 | lurgy | purple_cow: i had that too for a while |
| 02:18.15 | ChipX86 | like everone dying and nobody being able to do a damn thing about it, or knowing you have only a couple days left to live |
| 02:18.16 | purple_cow | mine aren't disturbing, i just wake up and thing "WTF?" |
| 02:18.22 | ChipX86 | almost every night for weeks |
| 02:18.29 | lurgy | purple_cow, darth_mall: IFS tonight? |
| 02:18.32 | purple_cow | err, think |
| 02:18.32 | kergoth | mine are -always- really bizarre, its just i dont always remember them. in fact, rarely do |
| 02:18.43 | pagefault | hehe |
| 02:19.21 | purple_cow | lurgy: i'd like to, but probably shouldn't |
| 02:19.30 | purple_cow | i'm exhausted, have an early class to go to, and a document to revise |
| 02:19.32 | lurgy | okeydokey |
| 02:19.39 | pagefault | cleaned up is good too :P as long as I don't have to do it |
| 02:19.40 | lurgy | ah right, the 8:00 Friday class :( |
| 02:19.40 | pagefault | oops |
| 02:19.41 | pagefault | ebay |
| 02:19.44 | pagefault | I hate this mouse |
| 02:19.49 | pagefault | brb |
| 02:19.51 | pagefault | I need to fix it |
| 02:19.52 | pagefault | again |
| 02:20.04 | pagefault | I asked for one for my birthday |
| 02:21.35 | lurgy | hehe |
| 02:21.38 | lurgy | stinky shminky |
| 02:21.43 | lurgy | darth_mall: you? |
| 02:22.58 | pagefault | stinky ahha |
| 02:24.07 | ChipX86 | http://cgi.ebay.com/TOP-LOADING-NINTENDO-WITH-DOG-BONE-CONTROLLER_W0QQitemZ8217955977QQcategoryZ62053QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem |
| 02:24.10 | ChipX86 | look at hte pic |
| 02:24.12 | ChipX86 | it's an NES from the future! |
| 02:24.43 | pagefault | hehe |
| 02:25.42 | ChipX86 | WoW time |
| 02:26.45 | kergoth | http://www.thinkgeek.com/tshirts/generic/78ae/ |
| 02:33.34 | darth_mall | lurgy: what about me? |
| 02:33.41 | darth_mall | what's on at IFS? |
| 02:34.04 | lurgy | darth_mall: Freeze Frame |
| 02:34.10 | lurgy | some thriller |
| 02:34.10 | pagefault | brb |
| 02:34.19 | darth_mall | yeah sure |
| 02:34.20 | darth_mall | why not |
| 02:34.22 | lurgy | yay |
| 02:34.22 | lurgy | ok |
| 02:34.24 | darth_mall | what time |
| 02:34.26 | lurgy | 9 |
| 02:34.43 | darth_mall | k |
| 02:34.45 | darth_mall | meet you there |
| 02:34.47 | lurgy | k |
| 02:34.50 | lurgy | by the buffalo? |
| 02:34.54 | darth_mall | sure |
| 02:34.59 | lurgy | k |
| 02:35.00 | lurgy | see ya |
| 02:44.45 | CIA-5 | asterlink: 03jcolp * 10gemini/ (9 files): Add inherited variables and certain debug stuff... |
| 02:48.59 | CIA-5 | numi-misc: 03numist * r132 10sdcolleges/ (header.php index.php pjirc/sdcolleges.php): site works. hah! |
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| 03:46.48 | zak | lalalalala |
| 03:48.24 | purple_cow | looloolooloo |
| 03:50.28 | zak | hi, how are you. I am bored and sad. what a thrilling combination. |
| 03:50.35 | zak | i can handle bored. make me not sad. |
| 03:51.59 | purple_cow | hmm |
| 03:52.40 | rioter | myh keyhboards brokeen i spil5tg sal5tg wa5tger in i5tg |
| 03:53.31 | kergoth | lol |
| 03:54.23 | CIA-5 | smrt: 03jupiter * r29 10docs/initial-requirements/ (figures/conceptual_overview.svg requirements.tex): get rid of all the extra garbage i put in the conceptual overview diagram, cuz bruce sez we don't need it |
| 03:54.31 | scanlime | damn that generates a lot of sawdust |
| 03:55.12 | purple_cow | in fact, you might even say i'm so bored that it's causing me to work on homework |
| 03:58.41 | rioter | mmm found a old keyboard in the cuboard |
| 03:58.48 | rioter | it makes those clunky noises when you hit keys |
| 03:58.50 | rioter | i like it |
| 04:03.59 | zak | that is pretty damn bored |
| 04:04.16 | zak | hey scanlime whens about did you ship the camera charger? |
| 04:04.18 | purple_cow | yep |
| 04:04.27 | zak | purple_cow: want to do my hw too? |
| 04:05.03 | nullpuppy | damn :( gnomad2 doesn't like me |
| 04:06.24 | zak | nullpuppy: write about this for nanowrimo: http://www.thinkgeek.com/tshirts/pvp/6d0f/ |
| 04:06.30 | zak | not the shirt, what it says |
| 04:06.37 | zak | that could be an entertaining story. |
| 04:07.01 | purple_cow | zak: i don't even want to do mine, i just can't think of anything better to do :P |
| 04:07.15 | nullpuppy | zak: hahahahaha, I might just do that ;) |
| 04:07.58 | purple_cow | i suppose i've got the ol' instrument |
| 04:08.03 | zak | if you do, I want to read it :P |
| 04:08.14 | nullpuppy | k :) |
| 04:08.19 | zak | yea purple_cow and playing cello :) |
| 04:08.22 | nullpuppy | if nothing else, I'll work it into whatever I come up with |
| 04:08.27 | zak | hehe! |
| 04:08.30 | zak | awesome |
| 04:13.14 | scanlime | zak: ah. I knew I forgot to do something... |
| 04:13.49 | zak | damn |
| 04:14.05 | scanlime | sorry :( |
| 04:14.06 | zak | CLOSE ITLL! CLOSE! |
| 04:14.38 | scanlime | but my chicken parmesan is ready! |
| 04:14.43 | scanlime | nah, sawdust is good for you |
| 04:14.44 | zak | now...why are you covered in sawdust? |
| 04:14.49 | scanlime | full of vitamins, and particle board |
| 04:14.51 | zak | did you take my crazy ass advice? |
| 04:14.55 | scanlime | which advice? |
| 04:15.03 | zak | the make it yourself TV table? |
| 04:15.22 | scanlime | ah, no. I managed to get the $50 TV stand I wanted, and it's exactly the right size |
| 04:15.39 | scanlime | but my server cabined needed more ventilation, and I now have a 4.5" diameter hole saw :) |
| 04:16.15 | zak | yea |
| 04:16.30 | zak | seeing as i can't take any :P |
| 04:16.35 | scanlime | :( |
| 04:16.38 | scanlime | I put a few more up |
| 04:16.50 | zak | well, you'll just have to wait to see my kitty then, won't you |
| 04:16.52 | scanlime | http://zero.navi.cx/gallery/micahs-tv |
| 04:16.56 | scanlime | yes =( |
| 04:16.58 | zak | ask darth_mall, she's CRAAAAAZy |
| 04:17.01 | zak | liek me |
| 04:17.05 | zak | and like me |
| 04:17.10 | scanlime | woo, crazy kitty |
| 04:17.28 | rioter | you can use it to power your car :) |
| 04:17.45 | zak | ooo. it's like it matches |
| 04:17.49 | zak | rioter: my cat? |
| 04:18.07 | scanlime | rioter: the engine would probably hiss angrily rather than purr :P |
| 04:18.13 | zak | Gabi likes darth_mall's shoes |
| 04:18.16 | rioter | hehe |
| 04:18.23 | rioter | there was a story on slashdot the other day |
| 04:18.34 | zak | it was very sad |
| 04:18.47 | rioter | http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/europe/09/14/germany.catfuel.reut/index.html |
| 04:18.49 | scanlime | oof. what happened? |
| 04:18.54 | rioter | probably not a good read if you like cats |
| 04:18.54 | zak | he lost an eye, an ear, a leg, and is lame on the other side |
| 04:19.04 | nullpuppy | :( |
| 04:19.22 | zak | well, see...the cat was an outerdoor cat, and he was outside, and his mommy came home...and mommy's car was warm |
| 04:19.31 | scanlime | ow |
| 04:19.43 | zak | so kitty decided to sit on the engine...mommy had to leave to go to grocery store...didn't know kitty was there. |
| 04:19.49 | zak | she started the car.. |
| 04:20.09 | nullpuppy | :( |
| 04:20.14 | nullpuppy | poor kitty |
| 04:20.17 | zak | let's just say it *ahem* had problems starting, and she didn't make it to the gorcery store |
| 04:20.29 | zak | he lived |
| 04:20.52 | zak | and he is a very sweet cat, but he hides from anything with any sort of motor |
| 04:21.08 | scanlime | yeah |
| 04:21.11 | scanlime | ow... |
| 04:21.50 | scanlime | :( |
| 04:24.10 | zak | in the interem, i will sit her and yawn |
| 04:24.14 | zak | and wish i could leave |
| 04:24.18 | zak | s/her/here |
| 04:24.18 | nullpuppy | hehe |
| 04:24.45 | kergoth | :( |
| 04:24.46 | zak | nullpuppy: you should fly out to CO when scanlime comes and go see firefly with us |
| 04:25.04 | scanlime | =) |
| 04:25.07 | nullpuppy | hehe, I would consider if it I had the money to |
| 04:25.17 | nullpuppy | but I be teh poor |
| 04:25.24 | zak | scanlime: how's that transporter technology coming along? |
| 04:25.29 | zak | or a stargate |
| 04:25.40 | zak | you did graduate with a major in stargateology |
| 04:25.48 | scanlime | I think I'll need an even bigger power drill to make a stargate |
| 04:27.11 | zak | scanlime: will you ship my charger soon? |
| 04:27.24 | zak | or else put it in the bag you are bringing with you here? |
| 04:27.29 | zak | now, before you forget? |
| 04:27.34 | scanlime | yes. I'm sorry I haven't yet... it's a combination of me forgetting and lacking packaging materials |
| 04:27.50 | scanlime | zak: there are a lot of things I'm bringing with me.. I'm making a list |
| 04:28.50 | zak | and go takeee more pictures |
| 04:29.27 | scanlime | I know |
| 04:29.33 | scanlime | I still have no idea how it got in my bag |
| 04:33.04 | purple_cow | yay, less gross |
| 04:37.24 | zak | yay, less dry |
| 04:37.24 | scanlime | sweet |
| 04:37.38 | scanlime | =) |
| 04:37.42 | scanlime | g'night fuzzy one |
| 04:37.53 | zak | yea...30 minutes until i can go home! |
| 04:38.00 | zak | home! home! home! |
| 04:38.03 | scanlime | where are you now? |
| 04:38.22 | zak | work. ITLL |
| 04:38.28 | zak | BORING |
| 04:38.30 | zak | SAD |
| 04:38.32 | zak | SLEEPY |
| 04:38.38 | zak | did i mention boring? |
| 04:39.14 | purple_cow | :( |
| 04:39.17 | zak | brb |
| 04:39.45 | scanlime | =( |
| 04:42.32 | zak | the great and mighty kendar has arrived |
| 04:42.50 | zak | it seems that some guy crashed his motorcycle in the DLC lot |
| 04:42.57 | zak | and he thinks he broke some ribs |
| 04:43.07 | zak | so i gave her some water and an ice pack. |
| 04:43.23 | zak | he called 911 on his own, and they are very helpfully sending an officer..on foot. |
| 04:43.27 | zak | @@ |
| 04:43.31 | purple_cow | you should ask her if she wants to play paranoia :) |
| 04:43.38 | purple_cow | might be a weird time for such a conversation, though |
| 04:43.49 | purple_cow | depending on how much attention this guy needs ;) |
| 04:45.38 | scanlime | you could ask the guy too! |
| 04:46.44 | zak | lol |
| 04:48.08 | zak | and they guy |
| 04:48.12 | zak | s/they/the |
| 04:48.17 | zak | and that stranger at kmart |
| 04:48.35 | purple_cow | well, i've been trying, but it seems like she's never on aim |
| 04:48.41 | purple_cow | either that or darth_mall gave me the wrong screenname |
| 04:49.01 | zak | nah, she's never on aim |
| 04:50.06 | scanlime | I should post a picture of this hole saw.. it's easily the most menacing-looking thing I've ever seen on a power drill |
| 04:57.09 | ChipX86 | oh boy.. |
| 04:57.11 | ChipX86 | #vmware |
| 04:57.14 | ChipX86 | dumbest question ever |
| 04:57.29 | scanlime | hmm, I'm not in there |
| 04:57.38 | ChipX86 | <junix> are there any aparent bugs in Vmware 5.5 beta for linux? |
| 04:58.06 | scanlime | haha |
| 04:58.09 | nullpuppy | ChipX86: ROFL! |
| 04:58.34 | purple_cow | mmm |
| 04:58.43 | purple_cow | the largo in the chopin 'cello sonata is so purdy |
| 04:58.46 | nullpuppy | ChipX86: you should say nope, thats why its a *beta* |
| 04:58.54 | ChipX86 | <ChipX86> they keyword is "beta" |
| 04:59.08 | nullpuppy | aww, that works just as well I suppose :) |
| 04:59.38 | nullpuppy | or not |
| 05:00.21 | nullpuppy | okie dokey, guess I won't be using gnomad2 |
| 05:00.54 | nullpuppy | Sep 15 22:00:27 [kernel] gnomad2[19622]: segfault at 0000000400528b2c rip 0000000000415425 rsp 00002aaaafb847c8 error 4 |
| 05:00.58 | nullpuppy | :(( |
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| 05:01.20 | lurgy | well.. that was dark |
| 05:02.21 | CIA-5 | secure-testing: 03micah * r2014 10/data/CAN/list: missing bug tag |
| 05:12.17 | nullpuppy | &*(%*#&(#$% |
| 05:12.18 | nullpuppy | Multiple segmentation faults occurred; can't display error dialog |
| 05:17.53 | kergoth | lol |
| 05:21.11 | nullpuppy | (Yet Another App...) |
| 05:21.12 | nullpuppy | ;) |
| 05:25.14 | nullpuppy | eek! |
| 05:25.24 | nullpuppy | vino-server is eating up my cpu for some odd reason |
| 05:25.29 | nullpuppy | and my load is 7+ |
| 05:30.21 | nullpuppy | eeeeeeeeeek! |
| 05:30.27 | nullpuppy | load of over 30! |
| 05:30.30 | nullpuppy | down to 22 now |
| 05:31.17 | nullpuppy | die vino-server, DIE! |
| 05:32.32 | nullpuppy | okie dokie.. this is.. very unusual |
| 05:32.53 | nullpuppy | twin-view choked I think.. I still have dual head.. but the display is cloned.. its.. wierd... |
| 05:34.15 | CIA-5 | smrt: 03jupiter * r30 10docs/initial-requirements/requirements.tex: Add sponsors' names and email addresses to title page |
| 05:34.57 | nullpuppy | and I have no keyboard in X now. |
| 05:34.58 | nullpuppy | wonderful |
| 05:36.15 | darth_mall | purple_cow: kendar is rarely on aim |
| 05:36.48 | purple_cow | so i see |
| 05:37.13 | purple_cow | mmm |
| 05:37.16 | purple_cow | yay damien rice |
| 05:44.22 | CIA-5 | smrt: 03jupiter * r31 10docs/initial-requirements/requirements.tex: mention movies, 'cuz for some reason people seemed to think that they were a different case from music |
| 05:48.13 | scanlime | woo |
| 05:49.32 | purple_cow | surprised? :) |
| 05:49.45 | scanlime | a little bit |
| 05:49.47 | purple_cow | it was completely not what i expected |
| 05:49.57 | scanlime | well, 13 wasn't all that surprising... 12 was :) |
| 05:50.18 | scanlime | in any case, cool ending |
| 05:50.54 | ChipX86 | http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3143782 |
| 05:51.00 | ChipX86 | I just don't get it. |
| 05:53.08 | nullpuppy | what in the hell... |
| 05:53.33 | nullpuppy | thats just.. i .. i don't know wtf to say |
| 05:53.36 | scanlime | ooh, cool |
| 05:53.42 | ChipX86 | the ideas seem interesting |
| 05:53.45 | ChipX86 | but.. I don't know |
| 05:53.47 | ChipX86 | I don't like remotes |
| 05:53.47 | nullpuppy | yeah |
| 05:54.00 | ChipX86 | I'll lose it :) |
| 05:54.07 | ChipX86 | and it's just weird. Every part of this new system is weird |
| 05:54.17 | nullpuppy | I hope either they provide a more standard controller as well (even if it must be bought seperately), or a 3rd party provides something more.. sensible |
| 05:54.21 | nullpuppy | yeah |
| 05:54.46 | scanlime | I guess I'm a sucker for 6DOF motion tracking... |
| 05:54.59 | ChipX86 | that part is neat |
| 05:55.04 | ChipX86 | I don't know |
| 05:55.05 | ChipX86 | I'd have to try it |
| 05:55.12 | ChipX86 | it just surprised me |
| 05:55.15 | nullpuppy | I don't see how thats really usable.. how do you use a/b and the d-pad? |
| 05:55.22 | ChipX86 | nullpuppy: you turn it around |
| 05:55.31 | ChipX86 | and hold it like an NES gamepad |
| 05:55.39 | nullpuppy | ooh, ok, hmm |
| 05:55.49 | ChipX86 | back to WoW. |
| 05:55.51 | nullpuppy | thats so incredibly obvious too |
| 05:55.56 | nullpuppy | wtf is wrong with me ;) |
| 05:56.31 | nullpuppy | yeah |
| 05:56.52 | purple_cow | 4-player mario party or monkey ball is so much more fun than halo |
| 05:56.52 | nullpuppy | I'll probably get one too, mainly for the ancient game library that will supposedly be available |
| 05:56.59 | nullpuppy | hehe :) |
| 05:57.51 | purple_cow | i love games where you can just have everyone pick it up and have fun even if they've never played before |
| 05:57.56 | scanlime | yeah |
| 05:58.22 | scanlime | Nintendo was really the first one to make a really playable 3D game with Mario 64.. so I bet they'll do something really cool with this new controller |
| 05:58.31 | scanlime | and maybe it will bring the price down on MEMS gyros ;) |
| 05:59.06 | scanlime | bet Nintendo is making Analog Devices really happy rightabout now... |
| 05:59.33 | kergoth | looks pretty cool to me. but i've always taken to unique input devices |
| 05:59.49 | kergoth | like the spaceorb, the old 6dof controller thats like those expensive input devices for 3d studio and maya |
| 06:00.24 | scanlime | ever tried one of those haptic pens? |
| 06:00.30 | kergoth | nope |
| 06:00.34 | kergoth | would like to though |
| 06:00.58 | scanlime | if you're ever at siggraph the company that makes them has a booth |
| 06:01.18 | kergoth | neat |
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| 06:02.10 | nullpuppy | mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm, good pie |
| 06:02.23 | kergoth | i dug out my old spaceorb the other day. pretty slick. tempted to yank the ball and stuff out of the controller and mount it to my desk, with just the ball & some buttons, then use that with the left hand and the mouse with the right |
| 06:02.26 | kergoth | be like those expensive ones |
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| 06:02.35 | kergoth | use the ball to navigate in 3d space adnt he mouse to select and move |
| 06:06.23 | purple_cow | scanlime: no booth this year |
| 06:06.34 | purple_cow | the expo was kind of crappy |
| 06:06.56 | Nara | Tell Chippy to talk to me if he comes back in |
| 06:16.53 | scanlime | aw |
| 06:19.33 | purple_cow | argh |
| 06:19.45 | purple_cow | i've got a \label + \ref combo, and it's giving the wrong number in the \ref |
| 06:20.47 | purple_cow | ah, there we go |
| 06:20.47 | CIA-5 | smrt: 03jupiter * r32 10docs/initial-requirements/requirements.tex: Fix figure reference, add the beginnings of an "extra stuff we could do" section |
| 06:23.08 | scanlime | ok, penny arcade is tempting me again |
| 06:23.31 | nullpuppy | oooh, gimme linky when ya find one that works :) |
| 06:24.19 | scanlime | it's really easy to find on mininova.org :P |
| 06:24.33 | nullpuppy | yeah, but I'm busy putting stuff on my zen :) |
| 06:24.36 | scanlime | just pick the one with like 400 seeds rather than 0... |
| 06:24.42 | purple_cow | haha, i like that warning |
| 06:24.43 | scanlime | er sorry, 988 seeds |
| 06:24.54 | purple_cow | 988 seeds? wow |
| 06:25.06 | purple_cow | it's like some of those drwho torrents right after the episode came out |
| 06:25.12 | kergoth | whats advent children? |
| 06:25.15 | nullpuppy | hehe, yeah |
| 06:25.18 | nullpuppy | kergoth: ffvii movie |
| 06:25.21 | kergoth | ah |
| 06:25.56 | purple_cow | goddamnit |
| 06:26.13 | purple_cow | it's going to be ages before i start typing the changed bt command |
| 06:26.48 | scanlime | purple_cow: is it safe to assume they're all english subtitled? |
| 06:27.01 | nullpuppy | doh! only Tangerine Dream I have in mp3 is green desert, everything else is ogg |
| 06:27.07 | purple_cow | scanlime: generally |
| 06:27.11 | scanlime | ooh, Tangerine Dream |
| 06:29.04 | nullpuppy | i have... you don't want to know how many... :) |
| 06:29.34 | nullpuppy | oh.. hey! that might explain why I had such horrible lag in WoW |
| 06:29.39 | scanlime | well, I'm just worried about running out of RAM |
| 06:29.43 | nullpuppy | ah |
| 06:29.49 | nullpuppy | how of that do ya have? |
| 06:29.52 | lurgy | yay for finishing silly probability homeworks |
| 06:30.02 | purple_cow | i can't connect to the tracker for the one with lots of seeds |
| 06:30.04 | nullpuppy | oooh, HHGTG radio show |
| 06:30.46 | scanlime | purple_cow: yeah.. I've been trying both, and yours is still stuck while the 988 one is happily downloading |
| 06:31.29 | scanlime | already got 23/1416 of it! |
| 06:31.34 | purple_cow | yay for the decemberists having a great war protest song on present picaresque |
| 06:31.51 | nullpuppy | (Jap-Sub-Eng) one? |
| 06:32.21 | purple_cow | yep |
| 06:32.25 | nullpuppy | k |
| 06:36.52 | purple_cow | hehe |
| 06:37.16 | purple_cow | ``I swear to God I will stab you in the mouth. That's a new one, huh? You ever been stabbed in there?'' |
| 06:37.24 | nullpuppy | :) |
| 06:37.46 | purple_cow | tycho is such an awesome writer |
| 06:37.56 | nullpuppy | Gabe came into our store shortly after PAX :) |
| 06:37.56 | nullpuppy | yeah |
| 06:37.58 | lurgy | best crater ever |
| 06:40.30 | purple_cow | crater? |
| 06:50.08 | nullpuppy | hmm, how would you classify Era (genre-wise)? |
| 06:50.53 | purple_cow | electronica, probably |
| 06:50.57 | nullpuppy | k |
| 06:51.09 | kergoth | i'd say more new age or something than electronica |
| 06:51.13 | nullpuppy | hehe |
| 06:51.13 | kergoth | i'd check allmusic though. |
| 06:51.19 | nullpuppy | k |
| 06:51.25 | purple_cow | allmusic says electronica for the main genre |
| 06:51.28 | nullpuppy | 2 of the albums are new-age, one is electronic |
| 06:51.30 | purple_cow | and new age is among the styles |
| 06:56.01 | nullpuppy | hehe |
| 06:56.31 | purple_cow | 'night folks |
| 06:56.36 | nullpuppy | nini |
| 07:26.43 | scanlime | big hand's on 120, little hand's on E |
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| 07:49.30 | kergoth | http://www.thinkgeek.com/tshirts/generic/78c6/ |
| 07:50.04 | scanlime | blah, kitchen is still messy |
| 07:50.13 | scanlime | but at least my server cabinet is staying cool now |
| 07:51.26 | kergoth | http://www.thinkgeek.com/tshirts/generic/7029/ |
| 07:51.26 | kergoth | hah |
| 07:51.54 | scanlime | heh |
| 07:51.56 | scanlime | yep |
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| 13:07.08 | purple_cow | oooooh |
| 13:07.11 | purple_cow | freevo is moving to svn |
| 13:07.18 | purple_cow | svn:externals and svn log here i come |
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| 15:07.29 | file[laptop] | hail Caer |
| 15:07.31 | file[laptop] | er Cae |
| 15:08.01 | Cae | hehe |
| 15:08.28 | Cae | humm |
| 15:11.53 | purple_cow | stupid mornings |
| 15:11.59 | Cae | brb |
| 15:12.01 | purple_cow | yay! |
| 15:12.11 | purple_cow | looks like it's not unlikely that freevo will get on CIA |
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| 15:13.25 | Cae | hmm. it's still all trembly..that should be a refresh rate issue..but the rates are correct. |
| 15:16.24 | Cae | hmm..degaussing doesn't help either |
| 15:16.28 | Cae | oh well. |
| 15:19.09 | Cae | likely something I should fix before I ruin my eyes. but the configuration for the monitor is correct.. |
| 15:19.57 | purple_cow | eyes are for suckers |
| 15:20.46 | Cae | I like my eyes.. :( |
| 15:22.28 | kergoth`zzz | bleh |
| 15:22.36 | kergoth`zzz | ~mornings |
| 15:22.37 | jbot | Mornings MUST be destroyed! (see also http://www.destroymornings.com/) |
| 15:26.54 | purple_cow | ughhhh |
| 15:26.57 | purple_cow | zero is full |
| 15:33.14 | pagefault | yawn |
| 15:36.56 | gonkulator | kergoth`zzz: do you have The Carpenters - We Have Only Just Begun |
| 15:38.17 | pagefault | I think I might have it in mp3 |
| 15:38.44 | gonkulator | oooh |
| 15:39.11 | pagefault | let me check |
| 15:39.16 | gonkulator | thanks |
| 15:39.54 | pagefault | hey |
| 15:39.55 | pagefault | got i |
| 15:39.56 | pagefault | err |
| 15:39.57 | pagefault | yeap |
| 15:39.59 | pagefault | ugh |
| 15:40.03 | pagefault | no typey in morning |
| 15:40.04 | file | hurg blah |
| 15:40.18 | gonkulator | bummer |
| 15:40.35 | gonkulator | pagefault: would you like a login, or do you want to dcc it to me, or what :) |
| 15:40.45 | pagefault | i'll upload it somewhere so you can download |
| 15:40.54 | gonkulator | awesome, thanks |
| 15:43.29 | pagefault | oh screw it |
| 15:43.30 | pagefault | I will DCC it |
| 15:43.59 | gonkulator | ok |
| 15:45.00 | pagefault | my DCC I think is a bit buggy |
| 15:45.04 | pagefault | is it going? |
| 15:45.29 | gonkulator | nope |
| 15:45.40 | pagefault | oh |
| 15:45.41 | pagefault | ok |
| 15:45.42 | pagefault | hmm |
| 15:45.46 | pagefault | one sec |
| 15:45.48 | gonkulator | want a scp login? |
| 15:46.13 | pagefault | nah |
| 15:46.15 | pagefault | almost uploaded |
| 15:46.27 | gonkulator | ok |
| 15:46.29 | pagefault | http://66.199.241.91/~pagefault/mp3/70_65%20Carpenters%20-%20Weve%20Only%20Just%20Begun.Mp3 |
| 15:46.51 | gonkulator | http://jurpa.us/file_running_around_in_circles.jpg |
| 15:47.06 | pagefault | haha |
| 15:47.29 | file | evil |
| 15:47.48 | pagefault | wow |
| 15:47.52 | pagefault | nintendo has gone mad |
| 15:48.03 | pagefault | their new controller is really just a remote control |
| 15:48.35 | scanlime | pagefault: no |
| 15:48.44 | Cae | okay, what else could be making my monitor be all squiggly? |
| 15:49.02 | purple_cow | Cae: a power line near the video cable? |
| 15:49.12 | scanlime | too early... |
| 15:49.31 | purple_cow | pff, i was up almost 3 hours ago :P |
| 15:49.33 | Cae | there's a fair number of machines in here, but none THAT close :P |
| 15:50.23 | scanlime | purple_cow: only 2 hours once you account for time zones |
| 15:50.26 | scanlime | :) |
| 15:50.32 | purple_cow | Cae: not quite what i meant |
| 15:50.45 | purple_cow | is the cable against a wall where there might be a power conduit right next to it? |
| 15:50.50 | Cae | no |
| 15:51.05 | scanlime | it's one of those mornings where I know I had a really complicated dream or three, but I can't remember a thing about them |
| 15:51.30 | purple_cow | awesome |
| 15:51.31 | purple_cow | zero albums # ls |
| 15:51.31 | purple_cow | Segmentation fault |
| 15:51.57 | scanlime | ugh |
| 15:52.05 | purple_cow | hrmph |
| 15:52.15 | purple_cow | gallery doesn't make it easy to change the size of a photo after it's been uploaded |
| 15:52.26 | scanlime | yea |
| 15:52.53 | Cae | the cable is on a desk, and will shortly be under the desk, next to..the desk |
| 15:53.06 | Cae | and a plastic garbage can |
| 15:53.08 | file | lots of desks |
| 15:53.11 | Cae | and a wood picture frame |
| 15:53.24 | Cae | :P |
| 15:55.47 | scanlime | hmm, big lunch today at vmware |
| 15:56.28 | darth_mall | ooh lunch |
| 15:56.29 | Cae | no change.. |
| 15:57.05 | gonkulator | ok, homework time |
| 15:57.45 | purple_cow | there we go |
| 15:57.48 | Cae | brb |
| 15:57.57 | purple_cow | lost the comments on the siggraph photos, but at least zero's got some breathing room now |
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| 15:58.32 | Cae | hmm..nope. |
| 15:58.43 | Cae | maybe I'll change monitors. |
| 15:58.58 | Cae | I like the largeness of this one..but the squiggliness is going to drive me nuts |
| 15:59.20 | purple_cow | scanlime: 3 hours, 2 hours...a big fat head |
| 16:04.07 | scanlime | purple_cow: you think you could set up some rate-limited rsync backups of zero's /var/www (including the gallery)? |
| 16:04.36 | scanlime | purple_cow: mini-navi needs a little more work before it can make reliable backups, and even once I have that working it couldn't hurt to have two people running them |
| 16:04.57 | purple_cow | hmm, mebbe. fembot isn't on all that much |
| 16:05.07 | scanlime | ah |
| 16:05.25 | scanlime | ok. if it isn't practical, I'll just wait until my NSLU2 has a working cron and a swap file |
| 16:08.13 | purple_cow | i'll look into it, it's just that it might not be very reliable, since i'd be updating it by hand and i'm forgetful about stuff like that |
| 16:09.04 | scanlime | nod |
| 16:09.54 | pagefault | file, wow bell and rogers are working together |
| 16:11.30 | purple_cow | hahahahahahahaha |
| 16:11.32 | purple_cow | today's PA is great |
| 16:12.27 | CIA-5 | asterlink: 03jcolp * 10gemini/ (gemini_utils.h gemini_utils.c): Add MD5 hash function to utilities |
| 16:15.08 | darth_mall | hahahahahahaha |
| 16:17.20 | pagefault | hahahahaa |
| 16:17.22 | pagefault | that's great |
| 16:19.14 | purple_cow | hmm |
| 16:21.46 | darth_mall | purple_cow: ``the interface must be 3d'' |
| 16:21.48 | darth_mall | ^^ |
| 16:22.12 | darth_mall | or, ``3d rocks your socks off!'' |
| 16:22.22 | purple_cow | ``The system must make use of 3D user interface elements in order to accelerate the |
| 16:22.22 | purple_cow | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:22.31 | darth_mall | yes |
| 16:22.35 | darth_mall | especially the awesome bit |
| 16:24.05 | CIA-5 | smrt: 03jupiter * r33 10docs/initial-requirements/requirements.tex: 3d requirement |
| 16:24.42 | scanlime | "The user interface must be composed entirely of spinning obelisks that scream when you touch them" |
| 16:25.58 | CIA-5 | smrt: 03jupiter * r34 10docs/initial-requirements/requirements.tex: make the word smrt appear italicized almost everywhere |
| 16:26.40 | darth_mall | blah |
| 16:26.50 | purple_cow | blah? |
| 16:27.01 | darth_mall | sounds like someone is drilling through concrete just outside the classroom |
| 16:27.01 | scanlime | you should make it appear almost italicized everywhere |
| 16:27.21 | purple_cow | that would work too |
| 16:27.25 | darth_mall | I want to be an administrator |
| 16:27.49 | darth_mall | ``hey! I know! let's wait 'til the start of fall semeseter and then decide to put in some windows in the engineering center!'' |
| 16:27.55 | scanlime | haha |
| 16:28.32 | scanlime | everybody needs 4.5" wide circular windows |
| 16:28.34 | darth_mall | I think I'd decide 2 weeks into every semester to pick a couple random classrooms and install toilets in the center of each of those classrooms |
| 16:28.38 | scanlime | it's be like a concrete submarine |
| 16:28.56 | scanlime | hehe |
| 16:29.03 | darth_mall | ooooh concrete submarine -- easily one of the best ideas I've ever heard |
| 16:29.25 | scanlime | especially if it had a lot of screen doors |
| 16:29.44 | darth_mall | mmmm |
| 16:29.46 | darth_mall | screen doors |
| 16:31.21 | scanlime | hah. Two free airline tickets with the purchase of comcast broadband with the purchase of an Intel Pentium D |
| 16:32.01 | purple_cow | that's kind of a bizzare promotion |
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| 16:35.46 | CIA-5 | asterlink: 03jcolp * 10gemini/ (gemini_utils.c gemini_utils.h): Add neat add_header function which adds a header to SIP messages |
| 16:35.48 | scanlime | no kidding |
| 16:40.15 | purple_cow | woo |
| 16:40.20 | purple_cow | the pledge of allegiance thing is back |
| 16:41.50 | darth_mall | pledge of allegiance thing? |
| 16:41.52 | prpplague | yep |
| 16:42.13 | prpplague | that stuff has gotten so silly |
| 16:42.19 | purple_cow | darth_mall: once again, a federal judge has declared the current pledge's form unconsitutional |
| 16:42.26 | darth_mall | yay |
| 16:42.56 | purple_cow | at least, in terms of requiring kids to say it in school |
| 16:43.14 | prpplague | one reason i'm not living in the states |
| 16:43.18 | darth_mall | why is that? "one nation under god"? |
| 16:43.22 | purple_cow | yep |
| 16:44.03 | prpplague | don't get me started on US gov issues |
| 16:45.53 | purple_cow | it's amazing what people are saying in response to the ruling |
| 16:46.11 | darth_mall | ``I want my kids to have access to as much jelly as they want''? |
| 16:46.14 | purple_cow | things like how that particular phrase reflects the religious heritage of our nation and the views of the founding fathers |
| 16:46.45 | purple_cow | never mind that the authors of the constitution were mostly deists, and it's no mistake that you don't see the word "God" in anything they wrote |
| 16:48.30 | darth_mall | yay |
| 16:48.34 | darth_mall | this class is finally almost over |
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| 17:00.52 | StrFox | ~poke zak |
| 17:00.56 | jbot | but then who will poke the pokers, strfox? lalo? |
| 17:01.02 | StrFox | me |
| 17:15.32 | CIA-5 | smrt: 03jupiter * r35 10docs/initial-requirements/figures/conceptual_overview.svg: add 'TV Tuner' to the diagram |
| 17:15.47 | file | SIP is evil, pure evil |
| 17:16.20 | pagefault | someone is raping neutrino's bandwidth |
| 17:16.29 | file | pagefault: lemme look see |
| 17:16.55 | file | nothing abnormal |
| 17:17.01 | pagefault | weird |
| 17:17.03 | pagefault | maybe it's bad routing |
| 17:17.40 | pagefault | hmm nope |
| 17:18.22 | CIA-5 | smrt: 03jupiter * r36 10docs/initial-requirements/requirements.tex: Get rid of all talk about freevo, add a paragraph at the top of the introduction explaining what looking glass is |
| 17:18.23 | file | I'm assuming you're using the tap1 interface |
| 17:18.29 | file | mostly because you've used like 6GB combined LOL |
| 17:19.09 | pagefault | hehe |
| 17:19.10 | pagefault | is that a lot? |
| 17:19.13 | file | not really |
| 17:19.19 | file | so - don't you have school? |
| 17:19.19 | pagefault | ok |
| 17:19.27 | pagefault | I just don't want to be going over a limit or anythign |
| 17:19.33 | file | the limit is 2 terabytes |
| 17:19.57 | pagefault | not today |
| 17:19.58 | pagefault | no classes |
| 17:20.21 | file | bah |
| 17:20.31 | pagefault | I think it's the zsnes bugzilla that gets quite a few hits |
| 17:21.19 | pagefault | the one on sf was not adequate |
| 17:22.28 | pagefault | I need to check out breezy since it's 'stable' now |
| 17:23.18 | ChipX86 | well, that was officially a bad way to start the day... |
| 17:23.32 | pagefault | what happened? |
| 17:23.34 | ChipX86 | they're doing work on the water system between 10:00 and 18:00 |
| 17:23.40 | ChipX86 | they said don't shower and stuff. I forgot. |
| 17:23.51 | kergoth`zzz | eep |
| 17:23.58 | ChipX86 | we still have water, but I showered for a couple of minutes and then started to realize how bad things were smelling |
| 17:24.05 | kergoth`zzz | lol |
| 17:24.08 | ChipX86 | the water *looks* fine but I stink, and I can't wash it off |
| 17:24.16 | pagefault | ugh |
| 17:24.18 | kergoth`zzz | that sucks man |
| 17:24.23 | ChipX86 | and I have a meeting to go to in a few hours |
| 17:24.31 | ChipX86 | so I guess I'll just post the interview notes and not show up |
| 17:26.31 | file | poor stinky Chip :( |
| 17:26.45 | kergoth | lol |
| 17:27.01 | file | yay someone is abusing our servers |
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| 17:30.28 | ChipX86 | wow |
| 17:30.31 | *** join/#tacobeam Cae (i=cae@celeron.isc.tamu.edu) |
| 17:30.38 | ChipX86 | pagefault's joining, or something, screwed up my irssi |
| 17:30.44 | ChipX86 | it's got garbage everywhere |
| 17:30.47 | file | this guy called the same phone number 14,429 times... |
| 17:31.15 | pagefault_ | gun |
| 17:31.15 | pagefault_ | err |
| 17:31.15 | pagefault_ | fun |
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| 17:32.35 | pfault | having fun connection problems |
| 17:33.49 | scanlime | wow |
| 17:33.57 | scanlime | getting my bugfix into MKS is easier than I thought |
| 17:34.03 | CIA-5 | smrt: 03jupiter * r37 10docs/initial-requirements/requirements.tex: another sentence in the introduction, explaining what the project is supposed to be |
| 17:34.21 | scanlime | oog |
| 17:34.30 | scanlime | lots of reviews from Chris, sent at a little past 2 AM |
| 17:34.49 | scanlime | I sure hope we're paying him a lot |
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| 17:35.28 | Cae | wb, Chip |
| 17:35.30 | prpplague | scanlime: "we" ? |
| 17:35.35 | CIA-5 | smrt: 03jupiter * r38 10docs/initial-requirements/requirements.tex: reword stuff a bit to not sound dumb |
| 17:35.36 | scanlime | the company... |
| 17:36.28 | Cae | is there a way to make Debian allow workspaces to kind of merge, so I can drag my mouse to the right edge of the screen and get to the next workspace? |
| 17:36.33 | Cae | er, gnome, rather |
| 17:36.47 | scanlime | Cae: not with metacity |
| 17:37.17 | scanlime | you could switch WMs, or just get used to using keyboard shortcuts :) |
| 17:37.29 | ChipX86 | Cae: I'm all smelly :( |
| 17:37.45 | prpplague | scanlime: hehe i was fishing for the name of said company, hehe |
| 17:37.54 | scanlime | prpplague: vmware |
| 17:37.57 | Cae | humm.. |
| 17:38.07 | ChipX86 | what about vmwarE? |
| 17:38.10 | ChipX86 | er, vmware |
| 17:38.13 | prpplague | scanlime: ahh |
| 17:38.17 | prpplague | scanlime: lovely |
| 17:38.20 | scanlime | vMware <-- the M is important |
| 17:38.27 | ChipX86 | yes |
| 17:38.51 | pfault | smellyware |
| 17:39.25 | pfault | poor ChipX86 |
| 17:39.31 | scanlime | prpplague: you can join #vmware and help them harass us! |
| 17:39.40 | Cae | vmwAre, because they are an A+ company. ;P |
| 17:40.02 | scanlime | vmwARRRRRRe, because it's talk like a pirate day |
| 17:40.41 | Cae | :P |
| 17:40.44 | ChipX86 | I wonder how long until the water is fixed |
| 17:40.50 | pfault | oh is that today? |
| 17:40.57 | Cae | well...is there a way to move the pager thingie to the top bar? |
| 17:41.05 | ChipX86 | Cae: yeah |
| 17:41.09 | purple_cow | no it isn't |
| 17:41.09 | ChipX86 | middle-click-drag |
| 17:41.19 | purple_cow | talk like a pirate day is monday |
| 17:41.27 | prpplague | scanlime: hehe, sorry, i only used vmware a couple of times |
| 17:41.38 | prpplague | scanlime: i try to do everything native linxu |
| 17:41.45 | Cae | ChipX86: hmm..that does not appear to be working |
| 17:41.58 | scanlime | ChipX86: the pond? it was working pretty well yesterday afternoon |
| 17:42.04 | ChipX86 | Cae: right-click -> Unlock |
| 17:42.09 | ChipX86 | scanlime: haha |
| 17:42.10 | scanlime | purple_cow: I know, I lied :( |
| 17:42.16 | ChipX86 | scanlime: I don't want to go in the pond! |
| 17:42.19 | Cae | ChipX86: I'm special.. |
| 17:42.21 | ChipX86 | scanlime: ohh, the water |
| 17:42.26 | ChipX86 | no, my water here |
| 17:42.28 | Cae | (I did manage to figure that out before you typed it though) |
| 17:42.32 | ChipX86 | the water's all smelly and I took a partial shower in it |
| 17:42.38 | scanlime | ew |
| 17:42.43 | Cae | ewww |
| 17:42.44 | ChipX86 | they're doing work on the pipes and I forgot |
| 17:42.48 | purple_cow | lying will send you to hell, you know |
| 17:42.55 | ChipX86 | purple_cow: and you'll grow bumps on your tongue |
| 17:43.03 | purple_cow | just like working to further the homosexual agenda or mixing your cereals |
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| 17:43.29 | ChipX86 | or listening to devil's music, like Elvis! |
| 17:43.50 | purple_cow | sure, why not |
| 17:44.07 | ChipX86 | or watching porn |
| 17:44.23 | Cae | porn's not evil. it's just..funny |
| 17:44.37 | ChipX86 | Cae: sure it is! Don't you listen to old, extreme Christians? |
| 17:44.37 | prpplague | scanlime: hehe i saw a pretty cool demo of vmware at a linux expo put on by redhat back in 99 |
| 17:44.41 | scanlime | haha, mixing your cereals? haven't heard that one |
| 17:44.43 | Cae | ChipX86: no |
| 17:44.47 | ChipX86 | purple_cow: it's improved a lot |
| 17:44.50 | ChipX86 | Cae: ah. Good. |
| 17:44.56 | prpplague | scanlime: they had like 8 different os's running at once |
| 17:44.56 | scanlime | prpplague: hah, 99? |
| 17:44.58 | Cae | heh |
| 17:45.04 | ChipX86 | purple_cow: have you seen it since? |
| 17:45.05 | ChipX86 | er |
| 17:45.06 | purple_cow | scanlime: that's from one of AJ's comics |
| 17:45.11 | ChipX86 | prpplague: same question, less purple_cow: |
| 17:45.12 | scanlime | ah :) |
| 17:45.24 | prpplague | nope |
| 17:45.29 | ChipX86 | one sec |
| 17:45.35 | ChipX86 | let me screenshotinate it for you |
| 17:45.47 | scanlime | prpplague: oh wow.. yes, a lot has changed since 1999 |
| 17:46.05 | scanlime | prpplague: mostly they didn't have USB back then ;) |
| 17:46.36 | purple_cow | http://stewped.com/air/view.php?date=2004-05-15 |
| 17:47.27 | scanlime | purple_cow: hehe.. ah yes, I remember that one =D |
| 17:49.16 | purple_cow | i'd hope you'd remember it, given that it's totally sweet |
| 17:49.51 | ChipX86 | oh well, I'll just use these |
| 17:49.55 | ChipX86 | prpplague: http://osiris.chipx86.com/screenshots/ws5/screenshot-desktop.png |
| 17:50.03 | ChipX86 | http://osiris.chipx86.com/screenshots/ws5/teams-3.png |
| 17:50.18 | ChipX86 | http://osiris.chipx86.com/screenshots/ws5/snapshot-manager.png |
| 17:50.51 | scanlime | prpplague: you should grab the 5.5 public beta |
| 17:50.53 | scanlime | :) |
| 17:51.01 | ChipX86 | oh yeah |
| 17:51.10 | prpplague | scanlime: public? didn't know vmware had a pub version |
| 17:51.21 | ChipX86 | we make our betas publicly downloadable |
| 17:51.31 | prpplague | scanlime: can't think of anything i'd use it with per se |
| 17:51.41 | ChipX86 | do you do any development? |
| 17:51.52 | prpplague | ChipX86: hehe linux dev yea |
| 17:52.12 | ChipX86 | I use it for testing things on various distros |
| 17:52.14 | ChipX86 | and unstable distros |
| 17:52.57 | prpplague | i can see that, i have a pc with removable hd cart for doing testing like that |
| 17:54.34 | prpplague | hehe, i really need one that does arm |
| 17:55.16 | ChipX86 | it's useful |
| 17:55.34 | ChipX86 | you can take a snapshot at any time, do some major testing, upgrades, etc. on the VM, then revert back to how it was before all that with a couple button presses |
| 17:55.57 | ChipX86 | you can press another button and clone the VM and have a second one to work with |
| 17:56.02 | ChipX86 | you can set up a virtual network between the two |
| 17:56.46 | ChipX86 | http://osiris.chipx86.com/screenshots/ws55/themed-summary.png |
| 17:56.47 | prpplague | ChipX86: thats cool |
| 17:56.54 | ChipX86 | there, finally got that screenshotted |
| 17:57.14 | prpplague | ChipX86: about the only thing i test is to make sure our sdk cd installs and doesn't have any build issues with different distros |
| 17:57.30 | ChipX86 | I'd think that wuold be easier in a VM than on real hardware |
| 17:59.16 | prpplague | ChipX86: yea probably, but my QA guy is pretty big on doing "real world" tests |
| 17:59.54 | ChipX86 | this is a real world test |
| 18:00.14 | ChipX86 | if it wasn't, Fortune 500 companies wouldn't be doing work in them |
| 18:00.17 | Cae | yay, I found refined clove oil |
| 18:00.21 | scanlime | ChipX86: what theme were you using in that screenshot? |
| 18:00.28 | ChipX86 | Clearlooks BlueSky |
| 18:00.33 | scanlime | ah |
| 18:00.58 | prpplague | ChipX86: so testing installs and builds is 100% accurate to physical tests? |
| 18:01.12 | ChipX86 | well it does depend on what exactly you are testing |
| 18:01.16 | ChipX86 | but it should be fine |
| 18:01.31 | scanlime | prpplague: generally yes, unless you're doing hardware-specific things |
| 18:01.38 | ChipX86 | nod |
| 18:01.42 | scanlime | prpplague: you're running a real unmodified operating system, just on a fake computer |
| 18:02.03 | prpplague | scanlime: hmm |
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| 18:02.21 | prpplague | scanlime: what are the general resource requirments for running vmware these days? |
| 18:02.22 | scanlime | ChipX86: google fails me.. where is this theme? |
| 18:02.27 | ChipX86 | it came with my ubuntu install |
| 18:02.30 | scanlime | prpplague: you need a computer, and memory |
| 18:02.32 | ChipX86 | maybe art.gnome.org? |
| 18:02.37 | ChipX86 | or gnome-look or whatever |
| 18:02.49 | ChipX86 | prpplague: anything you have will probably work, as long as it isn't ancient |
| 18:03.09 | ChipX86 | 512MB of RAM is good enough. 1GB will make a difference though |
| 18:03.16 | ChipX86 | because you need memory for your guest |
| 18:03.19 | scanlime | prpplague: you need enough memory and disk space for multiple OSes.. that's the only real requirement |
| 18:04.14 | prpplague | ahh |
| 18:04.58 | ChipX86 | another nice thing is that you can always just suspend a VM and come back to that point later on |
| 18:05.19 | ChipX86 | in the middle of an install in the guest and need to reboot the host? No problem! |
| 18:09.03 | scanlime | haha |
| 18:09.19 | scanlime | thunderbird saw some text like "foo *bar = (foo*) blah;" in an email.. |
| 18:09.26 | scanlime | and it made "bar = (foo" bold |
| 18:09.30 | ChipX86 | haha |
| 18:09.34 | ChipX86 | nice |
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| 18:10.54 | scanlime | prpplague: IMHO the coolest thing about using vmware for testing is that you can keep a library of cleanly installed OSes or systems in other predetermined states.. and you can test your install on them then throw away the changes |
| 18:11.01 | scanlime | prpplague: so you always have a clean system to test on |
| 18:11.56 | prpplague | scanlime: sounds neat |
| 18:12.07 | prpplague | scanlime: i only do the distro testing about once a quarter |
| 18:12.13 | prpplague | scanlime: but i'll keep it in mind |
| 18:12.18 | scanlime | nod |
| 18:12.23 | scanlime | it's also handy for driver development |
| 18:12.53 | prpplague | scanlime: hehe, all my driver dev is for arm |
| 18:13.06 | scanlime | nod |
| 18:18.34 | hardwire | .. |
| 18:18.35 | hardwire | needs salt. |
| 18:18.53 | scanlime | heh. |
| 18:19.52 | scanlime | don't you be putting me in your beer or anything :P |
| 18:19.53 | hardwire | I just grossed myself out. |
| 18:19.53 | hardwire | I hate it when I give myself the willies. |
| 18:19.53 | hardwire | mmm |
| 18:19.53 | hardwire | beer |
| 18:19.53 | hardwire | that sounds better than this coffee |
| 18:19.53 | scanlime | you know, I'm honestly not sure what Old Spice tastes like :OP |
| 18:19.53 | hardwire | time to find out |
| 18:20.03 | hardwire | w/o the aluminum oxide in it |
| 18:20.11 | scanlime | metals are good for you |
| 18:20.16 | hardwire | not aluminum |
| 18:20.25 | scanlime | especially aluminum |
| 18:20.26 | hardwire | and armpits are just pore feilds |
| 18:20.28 | scanlime | but even more especially lead |
| 18:20.34 | hardwire | oh |
| 18:20.36 | hardwire | you are fucking with me |
| 18:20.38 | hardwire | don't |
| 18:20.41 | scanlime | haha |
| 18:22.15 | prpplague | hehe, and tons of deoderants contain aluminum oxides |
| 18:25.31 | ChipX86 | this QA person cannot spell Ubuntu. She says Ubantu everytime and it's driving me nuts :P |
| 18:25.36 | ChipX86 | er, writes |
| 18:25.47 | CIA-5 | smrt: 03jupiter * r39 10docs/initial-requirements/requirements.tex: add a documentation & release section to the doc |
| 18:26.27 | purple_cow | ChipX86: you just need to reverse her mistake by switching letters in other things |
| 18:26.31 | purple_cow | redhut linux ;) |
| 18:26.45 | ChipX86 | haha |
| 18:27.18 | scanlime | linax :P |
| 18:27.26 | pagefault_ | pizzahut linux |
| 18:27.47 | pagefault_ | it's greasy and you can't eat it |
| 18:31.27 | scanlime | oh my god |
| 18:31.34 | scanlime | http://www.themenupage.com/jadefountain.html |
| 18:31.44 | scanlime | that makes my eyes bleed |
| 18:32.43 | purple_cow | hah |
| 18:32.48 | purple_cow | guh |
| 18:32.49 | purple_cow | guh guh guh |
| 18:32.54 | scanlime | I agree |
| 18:33.05 | purple_cow | the more i look at existing looking glass projects, the more laughable the whole thing becomes |
| 18:33.30 | purple_cow | not only do these kids have no sense of user interface design, they have no sense of style |
| 18:33.34 | scanlime | hehe. have you seen the CD player from last year? |
| 18:33.41 | purple_cow | so they're making 3d UIs that aren't even eye-candy |
| 18:33.46 | purple_cow | scanlime: i've seen screenshots |
| 18:34.13 | scanlime | CS kiddies that know how to make even decent programmer art are very rare |
| 18:34.31 | scanlime | you should see what Destiny M&M's web site was originally going to look like ;) |
| 18:34.35 | purple_cow | hehe |
| 18:37.38 | scanlime | the CS curriculum should include some art classes.. it wouldn't be the stupidest thing they've done |
| 18:42.37 | CIA-5 | smrt: 03jupiter * r40 10docs/initial-requirements/requirements.tex: latex-style quotations look a lot less like ass |
| 18:43.05 | darth_mall | speaking of art, I heard a couple of kids talking yesterday in the ECCR lobby |
| 18:43.23 | darth_mall | they must've been taking some engineering drawing class where they had to draw blueprints and the like |
| 18:43.32 | scanlime | drafting? |
| 18:43.38 | darth_mall | that's the word I was looking for! |
| 18:43.52 | darth_mall | so this one kid was asking the other for help because this other kid is apparently pretty good |
| 18:44.05 | darth_mall | this was by hand |
| 18:44.11 | scanlime | ooh neat |
| 18:44.21 | darth_mall | and he said, "can you help me, cuz yours are like Monet" |
| 18:44.40 | purple_cow | i'm not sure an art class would help |
| 18:44.57 | darth_mall | and I just couldn't help thinking, "impressionists do not make good blueprints" |
| 18:45.09 | scanlime | hehe |
| 18:45.12 | purple_cow | sure, a lot of kids don't realize that programmer pink isn't acceptable, but i think the deeper problem is that they think "it took so much work to get it looking like this, it'll take so much more to get it looking good) |
| 18:45.36 | darth_mall | I liked scanlime's screaming obelisk idea |
| 18:45.54 | scanlime | purple_cow: sure laziness is a big factor, but I think the root problem is that lots of people just don't know what looks good and what looks like ass |
| 18:46.02 | scanlime | especially with fonts |
| 18:46.02 | purple_cow | darth_mall: i don't suppose you care to rewrite our hardware stuff while i'm in class? ^^ |
| 18:46.11 | scanlime | did I mention I'm picky about fonts? |
| 18:46.15 | scanlime | maybe I haven't... |
| 18:46.17 | darth_mall | purple_cow: I'll take a look |
| 18:46.36 | ChipX86 | everything should be in Comic Sans MS! |
| 18:46.39 | darth_mall | indeed |
| 18:46.42 | purple_cow | ChipX86: hell yes |
| 18:46.51 | ChipX86 | all e-mails, all documents, all spreadsheets, and all UIs |
| 18:46.51 | darth_mall | comic sans is obviously a god among fonts |
| 18:46.57 | ChipX86 | it must be |
| 18:47.01 | ChipX86 | everyone seems to use it |
| 18:47.13 | scanlime | while you're at it, you should antialias only really big fonts, and turn hinting completely off! |
| 18:47.20 | darth_mall | indeed |
| 18:47.31 | ChipX86 | yep |
| 18:47.32 | scanlime | and always enable subpixel antialiasing, even for CRTs |
| 18:47.41 | darth_mall | and somewhere in there, screaming obelisks |
| 18:47.42 | scanlime | that way your text isn't boring old black all the time |
| 18:47.45 | scanlime | :) |
| 18:48.20 | darth_mall | black is so 1995 |
| 18:49.47 | darth_mall | hrm |
| 18:49.57 | darth_mall | purple_cow: what all did you want rewritten in the hardware requirements? |
| 18:51.20 | purple_cow | darth_mall: change the hardware section to be about how we need some kind of input device (be it keyboard, rc, whatever) and move the input thing to be only in one place |
| 18:51.24 | purple_cow | basically reduce duplication |
| 18:52.11 | darth_mall | ok |
| 18:55.14 | purple_cow | if you're so inclined, you could also try to figure out a better way to measure usability |
| 18:55.35 | CIA-5 | smrt: 03jupiter * r41 10docs/initial-requirements/requirements.tex: documentation reqs |
| 18:56.14 | purple_cow | also, do you remember any of the other ideas that came up for section 3.5? |
| 18:57.08 | darth_mall | which section is that? |
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| 18:57.24 | purple_cow | other things we could do if we have time |
| 18:58.01 | darth_mall | well, we talked about ways of actually managing the files that are on the computer |
| 18:58.14 | nullpuppy | wtf, the iPodder icon refuses to load in gnome |
| 18:58.26 | purple_cow | got that |
| 19:00.21 | darth_mall | that's the only one I can really remember |
| 19:00.45 | darth_mall | I remember thinking that if we had time, we might add some sophisticated ways of specifying what to record |
| 19:00.54 | darth_mall | like how Daniel was saying TiVo does |
| 19:01.12 | darth_mall | dammit, liboil! go to your room! |
| 19:01.21 | nullpuppy | grrr, wtf |
| 19:01.36 | purple_cow | well, if you think of anything that's not there, feel free to add it |
| 19:01.43 | purple_cow | it's not like that section actually commits us to doing anything |
| 19:01.45 | purple_cow | :) |
| 19:01.55 | nullpuppy | stupid image exists in the right spot, appears to be valid (file spits out identical info to other working icons), it loads fine |
| 19:02.01 | darth_mall | ``Given enough time, we would like to add blogging support to smrt'' |
| 19:02.17 | darth_mall | ``as well as implementing a custom chat protocol |
| 19:02.18 | darth_mall | '' |
| 19:02.22 | nullpuppy | haha |
| 19:02.36 | darth_mall | ``not to mention XML'' |
| 19:03.10 | nullpuppy | you should implement the ability to render and use ajax-compliant websites :) |
| 19:03.57 | purple_cow | let's keep not mentioning XML |
| 19:04.05 | nullpuppy | awww |
| 19:06.57 | darth_mall | purple_cow: you know you want a 3d media user interface that supports XML |
| 19:07.39 | purple_cow | hah |
| 19:07.40 | CIA-5 | smrt: 03evan * r42 10docs/initial-requirements/requirements.tex: Remove the Input Devices section and glom that onto hardware requirements. |
| 19:07.41 | purple_cow | "supports" ? |
| 19:07.47 | hardwire | moo |
| 19:07.47 | darth_mall | yes |
| 19:07.49 | darth_mall | supports |
| 19:07.59 | hardwire | http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1890159131/ref=pd_ecc_rvi_3/102-0688496-6421762 |
| 19:08.01 | hardwire | good read |
| 19:08.23 | hardwire | this one doesn't have words. |
| 19:08.36 | darth_mall | hehehe |
| 19:08.51 | darth_mall | hahahaha |
| 19:09.04 | ChipX86 | why do I get some weird gtk bugs |
| 19:09.33 | Cae | ..knots..hmm.. |
| 19:09.41 | CIA-5 | smrt: 03jupiter * r43 10docs/initial-requirements/requirements.tex: whoops, those should be subsubsections, not subsections |
| 19:10.28 | darth_mall | it's times like this I'm very very very glad for CIA |
| 19:11.41 | purple_cow | :) |
| 19:12.27 | darth_mall | something smells over here |
| 19:14.29 | prpplague | darth_mall: sorry, had taco bell for lunch |
| 19:17.00 | darth_mall | purple_cow: haha |
| 19:17.52 | *** join/#tacobeam pfault (i=Eric@69.156.37.12) |
| 19:19.14 | darth_mall | AAAAAAAAAARGH! |
| 19:19.16 | darth_mall | fucking inkscape |
| 19:19.29 | ChipX86 | :( |
| 19:19.47 | purple_cow | yes, brilliant, you're going to *tie up* someone who you presumably have feelings for, and you're not going to be thinking much about safety |
| 19:24.09 | ChipX86 | uh oh |
| 19:24.17 | ChipX86 | oh good |
| 19:24.23 | ChipX86 | the vnc session stopped responding for a sec there |
| 19:25.37 | purple_cow | hahahahahahaha |
| 19:25.39 | purple_cow | http://jwz.livejournal.com/539643.html |
| 19:26.02 | nullpuppy | w00! restarting x fixed the icons |
| 19:26.12 | nullpuppy | no idea why.. but meh, whatever, it works now |
| 19:26.48 | purple_cow | yay jwz |
| 19:26.50 | purple_cow | http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=40129&item=7710412382 |
| 19:29.03 | ChipX86 | that would be funny |
| 19:29.05 | ChipX86 | I like the poker shows though |
| 19:29.27 | ChipX86 | sometimes I just need something to glance up at on the TV while I'm doing work on the laptop that doesn't require paying much attention |
| 19:31.02 | ChipX86 | yep :) |
| 19:31.42 | ChipX86 | Sean Connery: I am Galstaff, sorcerer of light! |
| 19:32.02 | nullpuppy | hehehehehe |
| 19:32.03 | darth_mall | roflmao |
| 19:32.25 | darth_mall | Jack Nicholson: Then why'd you have to cast Magic Missile? |
| 19:32.30 | ChipX86 | :)) |
| 19:33.41 | purple_cow | ugh, now the sponsor is saying integration with looking glass is essential, so we need java |
| 19:33.59 | darth_mall | aw crap |
| 19:33.59 | ChipX86 | ughh |
| 19:34.05 | nullpuppy | yay! |
| 19:34.15 | darth_mall | my cursor isn't working and we have to use java? |
| 19:34.22 | nullpuppy | ~emulate gir |
| 19:34.24 | jbot | you SHALL not pass! .. he went that way. |
| 19:34.26 | nullpuppy | of course! |
| 19:34.38 | darth_mall | crap |
| 19:34.42 | darth_mall | probably going to have to restart |
| 19:35.31 | ChipX86 | I hate you Flash plugin for Linux |
| 19:35.56 | nullpuppy | I hate most flash in general |
| 19:36.08 | nullpuppy | although, I am running into more sites that appear to use it correctly |
| 19:36.20 | ChipX86 | nod |
| 19:36.21 | purple_cow | i'm a little cranky that he didn't care to answer this very question before we did the project selection |
| 19:36.26 | purple_cow | hopefully i can talk some sense into him :P |
| 19:36.45 | ChipX86 | sometimes I'll get an ad, though, and it'll be in Flash and I accidentally right-click on it and drag (to do a gesture) and galeon and the whole box locks up for several minutes and ARGH |
| 19:36.58 | nullpuppy | ah, yeah :( |
| 19:37.04 | nullpuppy | flash ads are the worst :( |
| 19:37.41 | purple_cow | time to go waste my life in a stupid class and worry about java :P |
| 19:37.58 | ChipX86 | yay for moving lyrics I care about to my own wiki |
| 19:40.28 | *** join/#tacobeam pagefault_ (i=Eric@Toronto-HSE-ppp3858257.sympatico.ca) |
| 19:42.55 | nullpuppy | ipodder is lacking a critical piece of information, summaries for the damn things |
| 19:45.55 | darth_mall | grr |
| 19:45.58 | darth_mall | I hate the moodle |
| 19:47.39 | nullpuppy | oooh, this could be interesting The Signal - Firefly & Serenity podcast |
| 19:50.39 | darth_mall | not a good day for me |
| 19:53.17 | ChipX86 | http://wiki.chipx86.com/wiki/Lyrics/Hookahman/Hookahman/Jesus <-- such a neat song |
| 19:58.40 | ChipX86 | oh no! |
| 19:58.48 | ChipX86 | I don't have any rc2fix bugs yet, and I just fixed my last rc1fix bug |
| 19:59.00 | ChipX86 | and no major code changes can go in except bug fixes |
| 19:59.45 | hardwire | http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/blackeyedpeas/myhumps.html |
| 19:59.48 | hardwire | thats a funner song |
| 20:02.05 | hardwire | that soudns peacefull |
| 20:02.13 | hardwire | I am staring at our phone system |
| 20:02.15 | hardwire | wondering.. wtf.. |
| 20:03.00 | nullpuppy | ChipX86: hehe, running out of stuff to do again? :) |
| 20:03.07 | ChipX86 | yeah :/ |
| 20:03.22 | hardwire | well |
| 20:03.23 | hardwire | thats good |
| 20:03.25 | file[laptop] | grill your own bread with pizza delight! |
| 20:03.50 | hardwire | mmm |
| 20:03.54 | hardwire | lemongrass is a wonderfull scent |
| 20:04.12 | hardwire | boo |
| 20:04.12 | file[laptop] | hardwire: VoIP IT! |
| 20:04.31 | hardwire | people being arrested based on paintball usage.. due to their link to terrorism training |
| 20:05.03 | ChipX86 | .. |
| 20:05.20 | prpplague | whats the args for strip on standard shared libs? |
| 20:05.22 | hardwire | I got rid of my stomache cramps |
| 20:05.31 | hardwire | in a very large stream of gass.. splitting the water in my toilet this morning. |
| 20:05.39 | hardwire | I am moses. |
| 20:05.44 | ChipX86 | nobody wanted to hear that |
| 20:06.02 | hardwire | been kidna rambling about poop lately. |
| 20:06.05 | hardwire | I should cut it out |
| 20:06.08 | ChipX86 | yes you should |
| 20:06.11 | hardwire | heh |
| 20:06.35 | hardwire | but remember people.. lower abdominal pain shouldn't be taken lightly.. consult your physician. |
| 20:07.27 | hardwire | http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/08/04/maryland.arrest/index.html |
| 20:07.30 | CIA-5 | view: 03chipx86 * 10libview/ (ChangeLog configure.ac): |
| 20:07.30 | CIA-5 | view: - Bump the version to 0.5.1.90 for the next development work. |
| 20:07.30 | CIA-5 | view: - Change the contact e-mail address to the listserv on SourceForge. |
| 20:08.15 | hardwire | I know martial arts.. why aren't I being arested.. because I am not Islamic? |
| 20:11.56 | CIA-5 | view: 03chipx86 * 10libview/ (ChangeLog libview/wrapLabel.cc): (log message trimmed) |
| 20:11.57 | CIA-5 | view: Fixed a bug in WrapLabel's wrapping. Under some rare cases, the WrapLabel would |
| 20:11.57 | CIA-5 | view: temporarily grow very tall, causing the window it is in to be resized. This bug |
| 20:11.57 | CIA-5 | view: has been seen only once, when used in a vbox subclass widget that wasn't shown |
| 20:11.57 | CIA-5 | view: until later on in the dialog. The proble mturned out tobe that due to how we |
| 20:11.57 | CIA-5 | view: handle the size requests and allocation, the wrap width would temporarily be set |
| 20:11.59 | CIA-5 | view: to 0, before being reset to a sane width. We now just check if the wrap width is |
| 20:12.08 | ChipX86 | wow |
| 20:12.16 | scanlime | w00t |
| 20:12.24 | scanlime | sibmitted my hcmon patch for review |
| 20:12.29 | ChipX86 | :) |
| 20:12.41 | scanlime | and I have code in MKS now :) |
| 20:12.43 | scanlime | 1 line! |
| 20:12.46 | ChipX86 | woot! |
| 20:13.02 | nullpuppy | MKS? |
| 20:13.09 | scanlime | my status report this week is going to be very healthy and well-fed |
| 20:13.40 | ChipX86 | oh! status report! |
| 20:13.42 | ChipX86 | something to do! |
| 20:13.51 | nullpuppy | lol |
| 20:13.55 | ChipX86 | this week has been very full of nothing, due to getting so much done too fast :( |
| 20:14.11 | nullpuppy | :( |
| 20:15.45 | scanlime | somehow this patch looks a lot less scary in HTML form |
| 20:16.33 | ChipX86 | yeah, they do that osmehow |
| 20:17.45 | *** join/#tacobeam JeffM2501 (n=JeffM@pdpc/supporter/sustaining/JeffM2501) |
| 20:21.13 | ChipX86 | I love doing the status report. Makes me realize what i actually did this week |
| 20:21.59 | ChipX86 | 10 bugs fixed, mnemonicalized and HIGinized the preferences dialog, pushed out a new libview release, and did a bunch of work on moving the preferences dialog to C++ |
| 20:25.22 | scanlime | if this code I just sent in for review makes it, I will have finally finished the overall task I had related to USB device connection |
| 20:25.51 | nullpuppy | neat |
| 20:26.05 | scanlime | this whole thing is going to end up fixing at least 4 bugs |
| 20:26.18 | nullpuppy | go you! |
| 20:26.29 | nullpuppy | yay, lots more stuff to copy to my zen |
| 20:26.57 | ChipX86 | heh |
| 20:27.11 | ChipX86 | I'm supposed to attend a meeting on the east coast Monday |
| 20:27.19 | ChipX86 | I think they meant Chris Hammans again |
| 20:28.29 | ChipX86 | or that other guy with a name similar to mine.. Christian Hamon or something |
| 20:29.35 | ChipX86 | hmm, not finding another name like mine in the directory. There used to be another guy |
| 20:32.52 | CIA-5 | asterlink: 03jcolp * 10gemini/ (gemini_debug.c gemini_debug.h): Add preliminary version of the debugging system |
| 20:33.17 | nullpuppy | *(#$# another broken rss feed |
| 20:37.43 | nullpuppy | dammit |
| 20:40.25 | scanlime | hmm |
| 20:41.32 | pagefault_ | it's been raining all day |
| 20:41.45 | file | that was interesting |
| 20:41.49 | pagefault_ | what |
| 20:41.52 | file | my cellphone just rang, but it said "Unable to answer call" |
| 20:42.03 | ChipX86 | weird |
| 20:42.04 | file | funky. |
| 20:42.05 | pagefault_ | thats helpful |
| 20:42.09 | file | yeah |
| 20:43.22 | scanlime | "If people check in python code with tabs we have means of punshing them." |
| 20:51.02 | scanlime | hmm? |
| 20:51.17 | nullpuppy | whats proper regex to match 0 or more of something? |
| 20:51.18 | darth_mall | uhoh |
| 20:51.24 | scanlime | * |
| 20:51.44 | nullpuppy | ah, there we go.. was forgetting a g ... :) |
| 20:57.46 | darth_mall | hmm |
| 20:57.52 | darth_mall | google is coming to campus to do interviews |
| 20:58.14 | scanlime | you don't really want to work at google |
| 20:58.17 | scanlime | vmware...! |
| 20:58.25 | nullpuppy | haha :) |
| 20:58.54 | darth_mall | heh |
| 20:59.03 | ChipX86 | yep |
| 20:59.30 | ChipX86 | some people like their jobs at google, but most people tell me it's very boring, repetitive work |
| 20:59.36 | ChipX86 | vmware's a lot more fun |
| 21:04.21 | scanlime | tinderbox is so sad :( |
| 21:04.42 | ChipX86 | ow |
| 21:05.09 | ChipX86 | people keep forgetting to run vmkernelInterfaceFix or vmcoreInterfaceFix |
| 21:05.16 | scanlime | nod |
| 21:05.34 | ChipX86 | actually |
| 21:05.40 | ChipX86 | the problem is that people jsut don't compile. |
| 21:05.51 | ChipX86 | "This will work! It's just a header file update." *BAM* |
| 21:06.24 | scanlime | hmm |
| 21:07.55 | ChipX86 | uh oh |
| 21:07.58 | ChipX86 | Planet Dolphy |
| 21:10.28 | ChipX86 | ugh |
| 21:10.36 | ChipX86 | Daniel Veillard is going to work on Xen |
| 21:11.29 | purple_cow | blah |
| 21:11.36 | purple_cow | our senior project just got a whole lot less fun and less useful |
| 21:11.41 | ChipX86 | :((( |
| 21:11.44 | ChipX86 | you can't do a thing about that/ |
| 21:11.46 | ChipX86 | ? |
| 21:12.27 | purple_cow | nope |
| 21:13.12 | purple_cow | even though the software we'd end up producing wouldn't actually -do- anything, integration with looking glass (and therefore java) is the most important part |
| 21:13.32 | scanlime | uggh |
| 21:13.54 | scanlime | you should write the UI in python anyway, and just integrate it using Jython :) |
| 21:14.19 | darth_mall | hehe |
| 21:14.23 | purple_cow | the java part isn't even what pisses me off |
| 21:14.26 | purple_cow | i can deal with that |
| 21:14.31 | darth_mall | purple_cow: didn't we ask them on the phone if we could do it in Python? |
| 21:15.04 | purple_cow | what pisses me off is that over 3 weeks ago (before we even -selected- the project) i specifically asked about this, and they didn't care to make this clear until an hour and a half before the requirements doc is due |
| 21:15.11 | scanlime | purple_cow: what exactly does Looking Glass provide anyway? |
| 21:15.15 | scanlime | :( |
| 21:15.17 | purple_cow | scanlime: 3d windows! |
| 21:15.20 | purple_cow | really nothing we can use |
| 21:15.32 | scanlime | hah |
| 21:16.01 | scanlime | purple_cow: you're going to want low-level control anyway so you can integrate video with the UI smoothly, right? can you use that as an argument point? |
| 21:16.19 | darth_mall | gah! bad inkscape! |
| 21:17.00 | purple_cow | scanlime: well, they have a video player written for looking glass |
| 21:17.01 | darth_mall | as far as I can tell, all of these undefined references are inside of inkscape's code... |
| 21:17.17 | purple_cow | as great as it is to be able to rotate your video windows in 3d space.... |
| 21:17.37 | darth_mall | well, it helps to navigate media, right? |
| 21:17.54 | darth_mall | while watching a movie, you can rotate it out of the way so you can't see it while you cue up your next movie! |
| 21:20.04 | scanlime | purple_cow: lemme guess, it supports postage stamp MPEG-1 video? |
| 21:20.58 | scanlime | the senior projects do have a way of getting lots less fun at the last minute.. our project seemed really cool back when we thought we'd be getting real data and doing something useful with it |
| 21:20.59 | CIA-5 | smrt: 03jupiter * r44 10docs/initial-requirements/requirements.tex: first round of java revisions |
| 21:21.08 | purple_cow | scanlime: i really don't know |
| 21:21.38 | purple_cow | hopefully it's based on a real system like mplayer or xine-lib |
| 21:22.07 | scanlime | doubt it |
| 21:22.09 | ChipX86 | Law firm spends $100,000 of taxpayers' money to ensure that rapist and murderer can have pornography in prison |
| 21:24.06 | purple_cow | scanlime: yeah, me too :( |
| 21:26.12 | Sophie[sick] | they should have sent me the 100k |
| 21:26.26 | ChipX86 | I'm sure you were on their list for consideration |
| 21:26.36 | Sophie[sick] | and I'd have sent the inmates all our old playboys. |
| 21:27.53 | Sophie197 | I'm almost not sick! |
| 21:28.03 | darth_mall | Sophie197: yay! |
| 21:28.54 | ChipX86 | fark is so full of interesting reads.. |
| 21:28.59 | nullpuppy | wtf |
| 21:29.03 | ChipX86 | "The Straight Girl's Guide to Sleeping With Chicks" |
| 21:29.54 | darth_mall | blah |
| 21:29.57 | darth_mall | I'm feeling so stupid today |
| 21:30.40 | purple_cow | what a fucking annoying way to end the week |
| 21:31.16 | ChipX86 | :(( |
| 21:31.51 | scanlime | purple_cow: time to quit school and join the circus! |
| 21:32.00 | scanlime | (don't you love senior projects?) |
| 21:32.25 | scanlime | at least it's got to be nice having a team you can mostly rely on |
| 21:35.28 | purple_cow | hmm, at least the API for writing an lg3d app looks relatively sane |
| 21:36.09 | CIA-5 | asterlink: 03jcolp * 10gemini/ (14 files): Add Gemini Voice which is a featureset on top of our regular stuff. Allows you to assign numbers to like conference rooms, echo test, etc. |
| 21:38.18 | CIA-5 | smrt: 03jupiter * r45 10docs/initial-requirements/requirements.tex: try to make it even clearer that we're not expecting anything to actually *work* |
| 21:39.52 | scanlime | =( |
| 21:39.54 | purple_cow | urgh |
| 21:40.05 | purple_cow | their runscripts are written in tcsh |
| 21:40.13 | scanlime | maybe I should start my own GUI project and steal your design ideas later ;) |
| 21:40.13 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03evan * r8906 10motion/py/ (Test/Base.py test.py): |
| 21:40.13 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: Trying to set up a nice little framework for running all the unit tests. Failing |
| 21:40.13 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: miserably. |
| 21:40.31 | file | All work and no play makes Josh a dull boy. |
| 21:40.40 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03evan * r8907 10motion/py/Test/: hush |
| 21:40.41 | purple_cow | darth_mall: uh - isn't that the run_tests.py file? |
| 21:40.52 | darth_mall | isn't what the what now? |
| 21:41.01 | purple_cow | look at run_tests.py |
| 21:41.12 | darth_mall | I did |
| 21:41.20 | purple_cow | oh |
| 21:41.25 | purple_cow | is there a reason you're not doing doctests? |
| 21:42.04 | purple_cow | scanlime: well, the UI ideas will be good ;) |
| 21:42.21 | purple_cow | scanlime: i'm tempted to write a gui for your system at the same time i'm doing this java tripe |
| 21:42.35 | scanlime | my vaporware :) |
| 21:42.54 | darth_mall | purple_cow: what I had in mind was unit tests the way we did them at space grant at at NREL |
| 21:42.55 | scanlime | I'll probably do some actual work on that this weekend |
| 21:42.58 | scanlime | or maybe even the unicone |
| 21:43.01 | darth_mall | using unittest |
| 21:43.12 | darth_mall | but if you'd rather do doctests that's fine |
| 21:43.15 | darth_mall | at this |
| 21:43.17 | scanlime | doctest and pyunit have somewhat separate goals |
| 21:43.25 | darth_mall | erm... at this point I don't really care at all |
| 21:43.53 | scanlime | doctest is good for a small set of tests that illustrate your object's functionality to the user- doctest is just a way of making sure those stay in sync with reality |
| 21:44.03 | scanlime | you really don't want to be putting all the odd corner cases and such in your doc strings |
| 21:44.12 | scanlime | so for a more complete test suite, you really should just use pyunit |
| 21:44.45 | purple_cow | ah |
| 21:44.46 | purple_cow | ok |
| 21:45.21 | scanlime | it's healthy to use a combination of both- since illustrative non-pathological test cases make great documentation |
| 21:45.31 | scanlime | but the really pathological ones shouldn't be what your users learn from :) |
| 21:46.30 | scanlime | doctest has some widgey for converting doctests into pyunit objects rather than immediately running them- that's useful for creating one entry point to run all your tests |
| 21:50.26 | darth_mall | I guess I should wander off to this conference room for the DLC Apprenticeship meeting |
| 21:50.58 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03evan * r8908 10motion/py/Test/Base.py: Bah. This isn't working. |
| 21:51.28 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03evan * r8909 10motion/py/Dance/: hush |
| 21:52.29 | CIA-5 | smrt: 03jupiter * r46 10docs/initial-requirements/requirements.tex: the period: your friend at the end |
| 21:54.39 | darth_mall | heh |
| 21:58.13 | CIA-5 | smrt: 03jupiter * r47 10docs/initial-requirements/figures/conceptual_overview.svg: add LG3D to the overview diagram |
| 21:58.48 | darth_mall | hmm... "matlab is real close to C++" |
| 21:58.55 | darth_mall | regarding syntax, that is |
| 21:59.04 | darth_mall | this meeting is going to be fun >< |
| 21:59.04 | rioter | if you smoke a pound of crack |
| 21:59.48 | purple_cow | darth_mall: can you give the doc a once-over before i send it to our ta? |
| 22:02.11 | darth_mall | yay! fire alarm! |
| 22:02.21 | darth_mall | purple_cow: not right now >< sorry |
| 22:03.15 | purple_cow | ok, i'll do it, but i'm holding you responsible if it sucks ;) |
| 22:03.55 | scanlime | I'll review it |
| 22:04.02 | scanlime | :P |
| 22:04.29 | scanlime | woo, NT is on crack |
| 22:05.06 | scanlime | there's this BSOD crash report.. no hints on how to reproduce it. The error is related to this memory mapping running out of space. However, it was invoked with length=0 which instructs it to use only the available space |
| 22:05.33 | scanlime | and there's another test above that which should ensure that the available space is nonzero |
| 22:06.51 | darth_mall | hmm |
| 22:06.59 | darth_mall | cool, I get a signal out here |
| 22:07.20 | CIA-5 | smrt: 03jupiter * r48 10docs/initial-requirements/requirements.tex: kill a useless sentence |
| 22:08.09 | darth_mall | heh |
| 22:08.21 | darth_mall | every time I read "the third dimension" I think of Don Hertzfeldt |
| 22:08.25 | purple_cow | hehehe |
| 22:08.27 | scanlime | =) |
| 22:08.39 | scanlime | you need an introduction section.. "1. What is the third dimension?" |
| 22:08.57 | purple_cow | because...guess what? lg3d requires the masked version! |
| 22:09.10 | scanlime | you should compile lg3d with USE="-java" |
| 22:09.18 | purple_cow | no lg3d in portage :P |
| 22:09.32 | scanlime | you can just hope ./configure understands USE :) |
| 22:09.33 | purple_cow | and i don't think a java-less lg3d would do much |
| 22:09.44 | scanlime | you really could use jython probably... |
| 22:09.51 | purple_cow | i think it would be a handful of tcsh scripts that tried to run programs that didn't exist |
| 22:10.07 | purple_cow | scanlime: given that lg3d requires the absolute latest sun jdk/jre, i somehow doubt jython would suffice... |
| 22:10.13 | scanlime | ah |
| 22:10.19 | scanlime | well |
| 22:10.25 | scanlime | python is running inside java, not the other way around |
| 22:10.33 | scanlime | so it would still have all the latest cruft |
| 22:10.35 | darth_mall | heh |
| 22:10.42 | purple_cow | yeah, i suppose |
| 22:10.45 | purple_cow | still, that's gross |
| 22:10.46 | scanlime | and you'd write python code to work with its java-objects |
| 22:10.56 | purple_cow | might as well just deal with it while secretly hating life |
| 22:10.57 | scanlime | eh. never tried it, but supposedly it's quite smooth |
| 22:11.00 | scanlime | nod |
| 22:11.06 | scanlime | secretly hating life is good for you |
| 22:11.12 | scanlime | keeps the psychiatrists in business |
| 22:11.16 | purple_cow | yep |
| 22:11.18 | purple_cow | and liquor stores |
| 22:11.23 | scanlime | especially liquor stores |
| 22:11.37 | ChipX86 | especially psychiatrists in liquor stores |
| 22:12.09 | scanlime | someday I'll be a psychiatrist that gets paid in liquor |
| 22:12.10 | purple_cow | however, it's still a little early for that |
| 22:12.19 | purple_cow | so i think i'll try the age-old technique of eating a bucket of ice cream |
| 22:12.23 | scanlime | :) |
| 22:13.04 | scanlime | damnit, I wish MSDN would at least have hyperlinks for all these acronyms and structure names they use all over without ever defining |
| 22:13.11 | scanlime | took me a while to figure out what an IRP is |
| 22:13.15 | scanlime | now I'm trying to track down MDL |
| 22:13.36 | scanlime | I mean, I can tell it's some kind of memory mapping object |
| 22:13.41 | scanlime | but other than that.. who knows |
| 22:18.18 | scanlime | ahh |
| 22:18.21 | scanlime | Memory Descriptor List |
| 22:19.13 | darth_mall | gods |
| 22:19.20 | darth_mall | will someone shut off that fucking fire alarm |
| 22:19.26 | darth_mall | >< |
| 22:19.46 | purple_cow | that's not the fire alarm, it's the fun alarm! |
| 22:19.51 | darth_mall | oh |
| 22:19.53 | darth_mall | my bad |
| 22:20.09 | purple_cow | quite |
| 22:23.05 | zak | anyone feel like cooking? |
| 22:23.07 | ChipX86 | wtf is with irssi spazzing out like this |
| 22:23.11 | scanlime | I'm bored too |
| 22:23.20 | zak | well, you can come over if you want ^_^ |
| 22:23.20 | scanlime | cooking sounds good |
| 22:23.23 | scanlime | especially.. cookies |
| 22:23.32 | scanlime | zak: can you wait a couple weeks? |
| 22:23.36 | ChipX86 | grr, it's never done this until today |
| 22:23.59 | zak | sure :P |
| 22:24.00 | ChipX86 | erm, did I somehow paste what zak said, or is that my client too? |
| 22:24.52 | zak | your client |
| 22:24.57 | ChipX86 | and now other channel text is appearing in that area |
| 22:24.57 | zak | since i do not see myself repeated |
| 22:25.16 | scanlime | ChipX86: likely it's your terminal emulator |
| 22:25.20 | scanlime | or screen |
| 22:25.24 | darth_mall | kill all terminals! |
| 22:25.24 | ChipX86 | hrm |
| 22:25.29 | ChipX86 | why hasn't this happened before |
| 22:25.41 | zak | purple_cow: interest? |
| 22:25.53 | *** join/#tacobeam ChipX86 (n=chipx86@galago/ChipX86) |
| 22:26.04 | purple_cow | zak: i'd love to, but i can't start until about 8:30 |
| 22:26.18 | darth_mall | uhoh |
| 22:26.20 | darth_mall | 8:30 |
| 22:26.24 | darth_mall | nothing good can come of that |
| 22:26.46 | purple_cow | darth_mall: doc good? |
| 22:27.04 | zak | purple_cow: you are welcome to come over then if you want, just let me know |
| 22:27.43 | purple_cow | sure. should i bring anything? (cookbooks?) |
| 22:28.12 | darth_mall | purple_cow: this meeting keeps interrupting me |
| 22:29.49 | purple_cow | well, sooner is better. it was due 30 minutes ago :P |
| 22:30.09 | purple_cow | i set up a good excuse, but i'd prefer to get it in asap |
| 22:30.32 | darth_mall | hrm |
| 22:30.36 | darth_mall | one question |
| 22:30.41 | purple_cow | no questions! |
| 22:30.42 | purple_cow | what? |
| 22:31.04 | Sophie197 | unf |
| 22:31.07 | darth_mall | I'm not parsing the first sentence in the Other User Interface POssibilities sections |
| 22:31.10 | darth_mall | s/s$// |
| 22:31.34 | darth_mall | ``These are possible features we can expose user interface for'' |
| 22:33.16 | darth_mall | I'm also not sure the Summary is doing much good. But otherwise everything looks good to me |
| 22:33.33 | purple_cow | summary does no good, but we have to have it |
| 22:33.50 | purple_cow | bruce says jump, i jump :P |
| 22:34.02 | darth_mall | oh, ok |
| 22:34.06 | darth_mall | no worries then ^^ |
| 22:34.23 | scanlime | get very used to sections that are completely useless |
| 22:34.29 | darth_mall | no! |
| 22:34.34 | scanlime | you'll be repeating the same meaningless filler text over and over and over... |
| 22:34.51 | purple_cow | i've already eliminated a lot of useless text that he had in his example |
| 22:35.14 | purple_cow | he had things like a list of the sections after the intro |
| 22:35.41 | purple_cow | i guess he was trying to do that whole "connecting sentence" thing, but it seems to me if the reader wants that info, they can either keep reading or flip back to the TOC |
| 22:36.15 | CIA-5 | smrt: 03jupiter * r49 10docs/initial-requirements/requirements.tex: rewrite the sketchy sentence |
| 22:36.23 | scanlime | blecch, #pragma again |
| 22:36.39 | ChipX86 | we had to use one of those in the ui. It made me sad. |
| 22:36.52 | purple_cow | darth_mall: better? |
| 22:37.02 | scanlime | they're all over the vmusb driver |
| 22:37.08 | ChipX86 | what are they for? |
| 22:37.09 | scanlime | but then the vmusb driver also uses 1-space indentation most places |
| 22:37.18 | ChipX86 | ew |
| 22:37.32 | scanlime | ChipX86: the MS compiler uses them for lots of things.. compile-time messages, structure alignment, enabling/disabling warnings... |
| 22:37.48 | purple_cow | hehe |
| 22:37.55 | ChipX86 | I meant what are those ones specifically for |
| 22:38.06 | scanlime | the things I just mentioned :P |
| 22:38.09 | Sophie197 | remember when conservativism was related in some way to small government? |
| 22:38.09 | ChipX86 | ah ok |
| 22:38.11 | purple_cow | yay for compiler-specific, do-anything statements |
| 22:38.13 | ChipX86 | I thought you were syaing in general :) |
| 22:38.36 | Sophie197 | I guess now it just means that you love rich people, hate gays, and mention god a lot. |
| 22:38.41 | scanlime | The fact that vmusb and hcmon are even necessary is just a testament to how much USB under windows sucks |
| 22:39.02 | purple_cow | Sophie197: the whole polar view of politics is pretty inaccurate anyways |
| 22:39.44 | purple_cow | the political compass thing is better (using two axes - conservative-liberal and authoritarian-libertarian), but even that doesn't really capture what's going on |
| 22:40.23 | Sophie197 | who knows what the fuck is going on. |
| 22:40.28 | *** join/#tacobeam orchid (n=bzgirl@unaffiliated/orchid) |
| 22:40.36 | Sophie197 | akaik, anything could happen |
| 22:40.56 | Sophie197 | these last 6 years have been so utterly weird. |
| 22:41.13 | Sophie197 | afaik* |
| 22:41.19 | purple_cow | Sophie197: when it comes to categorizing people's political actions, it's pretty easy to figure out what's going on :P |
| 22:43.02 | Sophie197 | neoconservatives control the government. They believe that the US should display it's prowess in order to weild greater influence and power globally. |
| 22:43.39 | ChipX86 | silly windows developers want to add more hacks to do things that they should be just getting for free from inheritence |
| 22:43.56 | ChipX86 | everything in windows just looks and feels like such a hack. No wonder they're 2 years behind us on restructuring |
| 22:44.13 | ChipX86 | (the team, not windows itself) |
| 22:44.34 | *** join/#tacobeam mitm (n=flareadv@port1312.ds1-vbr.adsl.cybercity.dk) |
| 22:44.38 | Sophie197 | meh, time to go to the store. |
| 22:48.22 | *** part/#tacobeam mitm (n=flareadv@port1312.ds1-vbr.adsl.cybercity.dk) |
| 22:54.03 | file[laptop] | gah I hate it when they branch something but you want a feature from one, while the other has a potentially greater feature you want too |
| 22:54.48 | zak | purple_cow: hmm...will you have eaten food by then? |
| 22:55.01 | zak | because if you have, we could just do some kind of desert |
| 22:55.05 | scanlime | mm, V8 |
| 22:55.28 | scanlime | they have lots of it at the lunch room here |
| 22:58.18 | zak | hmm |
| 22:58.22 | zak | yea lunch rooms |
| 22:58.51 | scanlime | yep. lots of free food today |
| 22:58.55 | scanlime | er |
| 22:58.56 | scanlime | s/today/here/ |
| 23:00.32 | *** join/#tacobeam zak__ (n=zak@zero.navi.cx) |
| 23:00.39 | zak__ | that was really annoying |
| 23:07.12 | zak__ | is anyone there? |
| 23:07.19 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 23:07.24 | zak__ | ok, just checking |
| 23:07.31 | zak__ | irc is being strangish |
| 23:10.14 | ChipX86 | oh no, this SNES is up to $61 now |
| 23:10.24 | scanlime | =( |
| 23:10.28 | scanlime | I want a SNES... |
| 23:10.35 | ChipX86 | the game selection is nice though |
| 23:11.03 | scanlime | maybe I will work on the unicone today |
| 23:11.04 | ChipX86 | SNES, Donkey Kong Country 1 and 2, Super Mario Kart, Super Mario All Stars are the big ones I care about, and it also has a Super Game Boy with Donkey Kong Land and Pac Man |
| 23:11.10 | ChipX86 | and 3 controllers |
| 23:11.14 | scanlime | I'd need to get an FPGA dev environment set bach up though |
| 23:11.16 | ChipX86 | worth it for $61? |
| 23:11.17 | scanlime | er, back |
| 23:11.24 | ChipX86 | it'll probably go up as it nears the end |
| 23:11.24 | scanlime | oooh |
| 23:11.26 | scanlime | super game boy |
| 23:11.39 | scanlime | I have one o' those |
| 23:11.57 | file[laptop] | pagefault_: poke |
| 23:12.34 | pagefault_ | whats up |
| 23:13.32 | file[laptop] | watching Lexx, u? |
| 23:15.10 | pagefault_ | watching something |
| 23:15.13 | pagefault_ | when I find it |
| 23:15.18 | pagefault_ | find anything good? |
| 23:15.55 | file[laptop] | just Lexx, which is decent enough for me right now |
| 23:16.11 | pagefault_ | that show is too weird |
| 23:16.52 | ChipX86 | yay Lexx |
| 23:18.12 | purple_cow | .....yay? |
| 23:18.18 | purple_cow | i guess the first 4 episodes are yay |
| 23:18.20 | ChipX86 | I like Lexx :) |
| 23:18.20 | purple_cow | rest sucks |
| 23:18.26 | ChipX86 | it's stupid, but sometimes that's good |
| 23:18.30 | purple_cow | zak__: i won't have eaten |
| 23:18.52 | purple_cow | not only was something i liked still on sale, but i walked in during a tasting |
| 23:18.54 | ChipX86 | I so badly want one of these SNES Minis |
| 23:19.35 | purple_cow | SNES mini? |
| 23:19.41 | purple_cow | like mac mini? |
| 23:19.46 | ChipX86 | http://cgi.ebay.com/Super-Nintendo-SNES-Compact-System-Mini-RARE-MORE_W0QQitemZ8218150435QQcategoryZ62054QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem |
| 23:19.50 | ChipX86 | they're so cute |
| 23:20.39 | purple_cow | ah, yeah, those |
| 23:21.28 | ChipX86 | I think this SNES is the best deal I'm going to get, considering a bunch of the games that come with it are ones I was going to try ot buy anyway.. hopefully it won't go too much higher |
| 23:21.58 | scanlime | ooh, that's sooo cute |
| 23:22.39 | ChipX86 | yep |
| 23:22.53 | purple_cow | now that i have a lot less room for video game storage, i'm seriously considering emulation :P |
| 23:22.57 | ChipX86 | I want to eventually get one of those and one of the top-loading NESs (even though it doesn't work with game genie without an adapter) |
| 23:22.59 | scanlime | nod |
| 23:23.29 | pagefault_ | time to get some beer |
| 23:24.44 | ChipX86 | mmm banana |
| 23:24.50 | pagefault_ | but first I need to reboot stuff |
| 23:25.38 | scanlime | hrm, FPGA development could be tricky |
| 23:25.56 | scanlime | either I run vmware on wasabi, boot wasabi into windows, or run verilog synthesis on my laptop (painful) |
| 23:26.28 | purple_cow | obviously it's a sign about which project you should do first |
| 23:27.22 | zak__ | purple_cow: you were going to say what? |
| 23:27.50 | purple_cow | about soup |
| 23:27.53 | scanlime | purple_cow: I agree |
| 23:28.15 | zak__ | and what were you going to say about it? |
| 23:28.36 | purple_cow | well, had i been on the ball, the conversation would have been |
| 23:28.42 | purple_cow | <zak> i want soup ^_^ |
| 23:28.47 | purple_cow | <purple_cow> you always want soup |
| 23:29.03 | zak__ | this is a fact |
| 23:29.07 | zak__ | so what do you want? |
| 23:29.53 | purple_cow | not sure |
| 23:30.02 | purple_cow | err, book |
| 23:30.12 | purple_cow | thai bok is probably something obscene :P |
| 23:30.41 | *** join/#tacobeam zak___ (n=zak@zero.navi.cx) |
| 23:31.59 | purple_cow | you have 2 screens right now, according to ps |
| 23:32.02 | ChipX86 | ohh boy, this is going to be a fun display of stupidity in #mono |
| 23:32.09 | scanlime | what am I doing... |
| 23:32.26 | ChipX86 | hahaha |
| 23:32.33 | ChipX86 | now it's stuck to you forever! |
| 23:32.37 | scanlime | hehe |
| 23:32.38 | scanlime | yep |
| 23:32.54 | purple_cow | hehe |
| 23:32.59 | scanlime | and we can't actually change the code the bug is in, since it would involve re-signing the drivers :) |
| 23:33.09 | scanlime | but I'm curious why it's happening now |
| 23:34.44 | purple_cow | hmm |
| 23:35.22 | purple_cow | ``stir-fried wide noodles'' |
| 23:35.49 | scanlime | :) |
| 23:36.12 | scanlime | my kitchen is still a disaster.. should fix that tonight |
| 23:36.41 | purple_cow | zak: paypal is crummy, they take fees |
| 23:37.21 | purple_cow | and, very occasionally, close large accounts destined for the red cross without warning |
| 23:37.24 | zak | not if the amount is high enough |
| 23:37.34 | ChipX86 | zak: yeah they do |
| 23:37.45 | ChipX86 | you have to have a business account |
| 23:37.48 | ChipX86 | which isn't hard to get |
| 23:38.01 | ChipX86 | Nat once sent me a nice amount of money and PayPal took fees out of it |
| 23:38.04 | scanlime | they didn't take fees on my donation from Nat |
| 23:38.12 | ChipX86 | really? weird |
| 23:38.23 | file[laptop] | depends on the type of account |
| 23:38.37 | purple_cow | i think it also depends on the phase of the moon, just to keep people on their toes |
| 23:38.46 | file[laptop] | that too |
| 23:38.46 | purple_cow | hmm |
| 23:38.53 | purple_cow | ``steamed bloody clams with dipping sauce'' |
| 23:38.54 | zak | actually no |
| 23:39.03 | zak | i am looking at their fees page |
| 23:39.25 | zak | it says that for a person account, receiving money is free |
| 23:39.40 | purple_cow | it's also harder than it should be to get money *out* of paypal |
| 23:39.45 | purple_cow | can't you write a check? |
| 23:40.34 | scanlime | zak: it isn't. All the smaller donations I've received from CIA had fees |
| 23:40.48 | scanlime | purple_cow: getting it out isn't hard, they just wire it into your bank account |
| 23:40.58 | scanlime | it's the fees when it comes into your account in the first place that suck |
| 23:41.05 | purple_cow | i really don't want to give paypal my account and routing numbers given their history :P |
| 23:41.29 | ChipX86 | I'm lucky. I've never had a problem with paypal |
| 23:41.42 | scanlime | there are worse places to give your bank info.. like the US department of education |
| 23:41.48 | ChipX86 | :) |
| 23:42.17 | purple_cow | hmm |
| 23:42.18 | purple_cow | eel curry |
| 23:42.34 | zak | purple_cow: i don't have any checks |
| 23:42.35 | scanlime | I want a curry that's just rice, sauce, potato, and carrots :) |
| 23:42.40 | zak | i can e-check you |
| 23:42.47 | zak | using usbank |
| 23:42.56 | file[laptop] | wow, I got an e-mail from David... |
| 23:42.58 | purple_cow | that might work |
| 23:43.19 | purple_cow | scanlime: i have a good recipe for something like that. i need to fix gourmet before i can get to it though |
| 23:43.27 | purple_cow | basically "throw everything in a pot, cook" |
| 23:43.38 | purple_cow | it's got some other stuff too - cauliflower, sometimes chicken, etc |
| 23:43.49 | purple_cow | you could probably put whatever you wanted in |
| 23:43.52 | scanlime | mmm |
| 23:43.55 | scanlime | I like recipes like that |
| 23:44.01 | scanlime | good stir-fry often results in that manner |
| 23:44.08 | purple_cow | hmm |
| 23:44.12 | purple_cow | i wonder if whole foods sells eel |
| 23:44.17 | zak | eel? |
| 23:44.28 | zak | what does wide noodles soup need eel for? |
| 23:44.29 | purple_cow | i bet i could get it at the asian seafood market on valmont |
| 23:44.32 | purple_cow | it doesn't |
| 23:44.37 | purple_cow | i'm looking at "eel curry" |
| 23:44.42 | zak | interesting |
| 23:44.49 | purple_cow | wow that's a simple recipe |
| 23:44.50 | zak | that could be an interesting adventure |
| 23:45.07 | file[laptop] | woot we're ordering pretty hardware next week |
| 23:45.16 | purple_cow | cook the eel in oil and curry paste for 30 seconds, add a couple more ingredients, cook for 5 minutes |
| 23:45.49 | ChipX86 | this guy in #mono is clueless |
| 23:46.14 | scanlime | wow |
| 23:46.16 | scanlime | under 50 USB bugs |
| 23:46.28 | scanlime | er, no.. under 50 unassigned USB bugs :) |
| 23:46.30 | file[laptop] | adtran vpn device... I wonder why we have that... |
| 23:47.52 | purple_cow | zak: ok, i guess i'll go to whole foods now and get either the stuff for the eel (if they have eel) or the noodles |
| 23:48.03 | zak | ok |
| 23:48.12 | zak | i thought you couldn't come over until 830 |
| 23:48.15 | zak | why go now? |
| 23:48.42 | purple_cow | 'cuz i have something at 7 to go to |
| 23:49.00 | zak | ah ok |
| 23:50.02 | purple_cow | huh |
| 23:50.07 | purple_cow | "1 tablespoon wine" |
| 23:50.13 | purple_cow | that's awfully inspecific |
| 23:51.11 | ChipX86 | hmm, wine |
| 23:51.11 | zak | merlot and something white |
| 23:51.22 | purple_cow | i don't think it really matters |
| 23:51.23 | zak | as you will |
| 23:51.29 | zak | what else does it need? |
| 23:51.32 | ChipX86 | someday I'll have to open my VMware wine |
| 23:51.40 | purple_cow | ok, time for questions |
| 23:51.45 | scanlime | what did you get vmware wine for? |
| 23:52.03 | ChipX86 | they gave everyone in the company a bottle of wine at the end of 2004 |
| 23:52.10 | scanlime | someday when I have a garage I'll be able to go to "wine country" |
| 23:52.26 | purple_cow | do you have any of: corn oil, basil leaves, lime leaves, garlic, sesame oil, white pepper, sugar, an egg, soy sauce, fish sauce, oyster sauce? |
| 23:53.30 | scanlime | har. as soon as I took this bug, Shirley removed rc2fix from it |
| 23:53.40 | ChipX86 | haha |
| 23:53.51 | zak | egg, fish sauce, dry basil, precut garlic, some white pepper |
| 23:54.02 | purple_cow | wow, you actually have fish sauce? cool |
| 23:54.03 | zak | and prolly soy sauce |
| 23:54.15 | zak | i am cool, aren't i |
| 23:54.36 | purple_cow | anybody who has fish sauce in their pantry/fridge is cool |
| 23:57.49 | purple_cow | alright, back in a half hour or so |
| 23:58.12 | numist | you know, this cell phone internet stuff is surprisingly reliable sometimes |
| 23:58.24 | scanlime | yup |
