| 00:00.56 | *** join/#tacobeam pf-mobile (n=pagefaul@66.199.241.90) |
| 00:02.39 | pf-mobile | damn |
| 00:02.43 | pf-mobile | my freezer is too good |
| 00:02.51 | pf-mobile | I took a warm beer and put it in the freezer to cool down |
| 00:02.55 | pf-mobile | 20 min later it's almost frozen |
| 00:03.49 | darth_mall | wow this guy sitting in front of us likes the sound of his own voice |
| 00:06.11 | slimspace | anyone use hal 0.5.4? |
| 00:06.15 | darth_mall | VisualGentoo.net |
| 00:07.59 | darth_mall | using hal 0.5.4, that is |
| 00:09.08 | darth_mall | because you forgot to activate your digital pants |
| 00:11.31 | slimspace | weird...in the script, start-stop-daemon returns 1, but at commandline it returns 0. |
| 00:11.51 | darth_mall | inkscape hates me >< |
| 00:11.56 | file | eep? |
| 00:12.04 | pf-mobile | whats up |
| 00:12.09 | pf-mobile | I never know which nick to poke |
| 00:12.10 | file | oh nothing, u? |
| 00:12.16 | pf-mobile | you need a status page, at desktop or laptop |
| 00:12.23 | file | great idea |
| 00:13.04 | darth_mall | or a proxy =P |
| 00:13.48 | file | meh |
| 00:17.48 | darth_mall | bored |
| 00:18.36 | pf-mobile | neutrino is my proxy |
| 00:18.50 | pf-mobile | but I am thinking of petitioning the IT people to open more ports |
| 00:18.58 | pf-mobile | I think it's rediculous thinks like pop3 are blocked |
| 00:25.45 | file | they block POP3? |
| 00:25.45 | file | actually the better question is, what don't they block? |
| 00:26.08 | purple_cow | darth_mall: what's kendra's IM screenname? |
| 00:26.53 | pf-mobile | mmm indian curry |
| 00:27.11 | pf-mobile | the only open ports are 21, 22, 80, 8080 |
| 00:27.27 | file | yow'sa |
| 00:27.33 | pf-mobile | yeah it's pretty bad |
| 00:27.44 | pf-mobile | but with a SOCKS server and sockscap I can run mostly everything |
| 00:27.52 | file | yay |
| 00:27.58 | file | neutrino to the rescue! |
| 00:28.02 | pf-mobile | yep |
| 00:28.16 | pf-mobile | oh and all UDP traffic is blocked |
| 00:28.19 | pf-mobile | so TCP only |
| 00:28.25 | file | haha, nice |
| 00:28.37 | pf-mobile | yeah |
| 00:28.56 | pf-mobile | they claim it's for "security" |
| 00:29.04 | file | yeah - right |
| 00:29.29 | darth_mall | purple_cow: did you get my /msg? |
| 00:29.34 | pf-mobile | oh well |
| 00:29.37 | pf-mobile | I got around their little game |
| 00:29.41 | purple_cow | darth_mall: no, identify to nickeserv :P |
| 00:29.54 | purple_cow | stupid freenode |
| 00:30.36 | slimspace | hald works just fine alone, but refuses to start in its init script |
| 00:30.50 | slimspace | and what's more, the command the script uses works perfectly in a normal root shell. |
| 00:31.40 | darth_mall | hehehe |
| 00:31.50 | darth_mall | Sebastian is bashing blink tags in HTML ^^ |
| 00:32.04 | pf-mobile | hah 80% of tvguide users polled say there are too many reality shows on tv |
| 00:32.11 | pf-mobile | they didn't need a poll to find that out |
| 00:47.14 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10BZFlagG3D/ (3 files in 3 dirs): The quick brown fox jumped over the fence. |
| 01:14.09 | scanlime | mmm, fresh banana shake |
| 01:21.07 | pagefault | yun |
| 01:21.09 | pagefault | yum |
| 01:25.01 | scanlime | yep |
| 01:25.03 | scanlime | very yunny |
| 01:29.13 | scanlime | oog.. that shake is giving me a food coma |
| 01:29.30 | scanlime | suppose I should walk to the hardware store and get some bolts long enough to attach my TV to its stand |
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| 01:37.24 | purple_cow | hmm |
| 01:37.35 | purple_cow | laodamas: i don't suppose you have any interest in playing paranoia on alternating saturdays? |
| 01:48.43 | numist | wow crackers *do* go stale really fast here |
| 01:53.32 | slimspace | purple_cow: so I can't figure out why your computer seems to want to rotate things...I can't get mine to do it |
| 02:04.02 | purple_cow | weird |
| 02:08.52 | file[laptop] | blah blah blah |
| 02:15.11 | pagefault | blah |
| 02:15.22 | file[laptop] | what's up pagefault? |
| 02:15.44 | pagefault | futurama |
| 02:16.22 | file[laptop] | yay |
| 02:16.47 | pagefault | zoidberg! |
| 02:17.22 | pagefault | zoidberg! |
| 02:17.32 | pagefault | heh |
| 02:17.44 | pagefault | ~emulate file |
| 02:17.46 | jbot | ACTION poke poke poke poke |
| 02:18.13 | pagefault | ~emulate pagefault |
| 02:18.22 | pagefault | aww |
| 02:20.22 | pagefault | hooray for |
| 02:20.29 | pagefault | stuff |
| 02:24.24 | pagefault | hmm |
| 02:24.27 | pagefault | zoidberg! |
| 02:24.37 | pagefault | what gcc compiler option is for size again |
| 02:24.41 | pagefault | oh -Os |
| 02:24.48 | pagefault | zoidberg! |
| 02:24.57 | pagefault | I am an expert |
| 02:25.09 | pagefault | well bed time |
| 02:25.11 | pagefault | night all |
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| 02:26.27 | pf-mobile | oh wait |
| 02:26.33 | pf-mobile | I need to wait for stuff to finish downloading :) |
| 02:26.54 | pf-mobile | zoidberg! |
| 02:26.57 | pf-mobile | I like futurama |
| 02:27.18 | pf-mobile | blah |
| 02:40.42 | laodamas | purple_cow: maybe. It all depends upon how 90 mile drive happy I am those days. |
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| 03:15.23 | ChipX86 | back |
| 03:15.27 | kergoth | re |
| 03:19.05 | file[laptop] | hi |
| 03:19.34 | file[laptop] | I wish this guy had e-mailed me back tonight... oh well |
| 03:21.26 | ChipX86 | wowee, go Federico |
| 03:23.41 | nullpuppy | eh? who's Federico? |
| 03:25.11 | file[laptop] | a mystery man |
| 03:25.29 | ChipX86 | gtk guy |
| 03:25.45 | ChipX86 | he found a way to reduce the startup time of the file chooser by half |
| 03:25.54 | nullpuppy | cool |
| 03:48.34 | purple_cow | hmm, sysprof |
| 03:57.33 | purple_cow | http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/050914/ids_photos_ts/r2587077477.jpg#gooderhead |
| 04:11.46 | purple_cow | wow, dead tonight |
| 04:13.09 | darth_mall | dead? |
| 04:14.30 | purple_cow | not much talkey talkey |
| 04:15.15 | darth_mall | =( |
| 04:16.17 | file[laptop] | talk is cheap |
| 04:27.01 | purple_cow | argh |
| 04:27.06 | purple_cow | the new libgnomeprint is kerbroke |
| 04:36.31 | numist | scanlime: ping |
| 04:41.52 | darth_mall | blah java |
| 04:44.55 | kergoth | whee |
| 04:44.58 | kergoth | found a bug in svk |
| 04:48.40 | file[laptop] | woot my in-ear headphones got into Moncton 8 minutes ago |
| 05:15.49 | purple_cow | wow, weird |
| 05:15.58 | purple_cow | a girl i played in a quartet with in high school is my TA for a class |
| 05:19.43 | darth_mall | yay |
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| 05:33.30 | purple_cow | bleh |
| 05:34.18 | darth_mall | you could do some of my homework for me ^^ |
| 05:34.23 | purple_cow | no thanks |
| 05:34.39 | purple_cow | i suppose i could continue poking at that document... |
| 05:57.10 | lurgy | hmm |
| 05:57.15 | lurgy | d |
| 06:05.41 | CIA-5 | smrt: 03jupiter * r24 10docs/requirements/requirements.tex: lots of changes |
| 06:13.11 | CIA-5 | smrt: 03jupiter * r25 10docs/requirements/requirements.tex: fix formatting, use \url{}, and reword one requirement to give us leeway to use scanlime's system if he ever writes it :) |
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| 06:22.33 | david___ | bleh, looks like zero went kerpow |
| 06:23.02 | numist | :( |
| 06:30.52 | david___ | hmm |
| 06:31.55 | numist | wow Im an idiot |
| 06:31.56 | CIA-5 | numi-misc: 03numist * r124 10lib/ (190 files in 11 dirs): |
| 06:32.01 | numist | no commit message... oopsie |
| 06:32.15 | numist | its a really long night |
| 06:34.11 | CIA-5 | numi-misc: 03numist * r125 10phplib/: |
| 06:34.11 | CIA-5 | numi-misc: I'm an idiot... last rev was to create new lib area for useful libraries, classes, and funcs for any language. |
| 06:34.12 | CIA-5 | numi-misc: as such, phplib is deprecated, so remove that now. |
| 06:34.38 | numist | aww, bye zero |
| 06:34.42 | numist | wow, everyone has a shell to zero |
| 06:46.35 | CIA-5 | numi-misc: 03numist * r126 10lib/ (12 files): updated informations on some of the libs |
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| 07:01.15 | purple_cow | yay, it's back |
| 07:26.23 | CIA-5 | smrt: 03jupiter * r26 10docs/requirements/ (lib/titling.sty requirements.tex): |
| 07:26.23 | CIA-5 | smrt: Lots of really frightening title page mojo: make the email addresses clickable, |
| 07:26.23 | CIA-5 | smrt: import the titling package and define a bunch of creepy stuff to let us stick |
| 07:26.23 | CIA-5 | smrt: info about the CS dept & sponsor after the date. Also fix spelling of some |
| 07:26.25 | CIA-5 | smrt: stuff. |
| 07:28.52 | purple_cow | welp, the contents of the doc may suck, but the title page is rockin' |
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| 07:53.47 | *** part/#tacobeam JeffM2501 (n=jeffm@pdpc/supporter/sustaining/JeffM2501) |
| 08:13.39 | kergoth | ChipX86: i'm still in st. |
| 08:13.59 | ChipX86 | hah |
| 08:13.59 | ChipX86 | how's it going? |
| 08:28.23 | kergoth | pretty well, this is a damn good group |
| 08:28.31 | kergoth | we still have stuff to do yet |
| 08:35.16 | ChipX86 | heading to bed. g'night |
| 08:35.19 | kergoth | night |
| 09:22.54 | kergoth | whew, finished |
| 11:57.40 | CIA-5 | secure-testing: 03micah * r1998 10/data/DSA/list: New centericq DSA |
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| 12:19.04 | file[laptop] | DESTROY MORNINGS |
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| 12:57.15 | file[laptop] | AHA |
| 12:57.21 | file[laptop] | I have found the trick to get the in-ear headphones in |
| 12:57.30 | file[laptop] | er getting |
| 13:36.58 | CIA-5 | asterlink: 03jcolp * 10gemini/gemini_calls.c: Only see if we are relaying to the owner transaction if the owner transaction is present |
| 13:39.07 | prpplague | file[laptop]: K-Y jelly ? |
| 13:39.34 | file | ha |
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| 14:19.47 | file | hey pagefault |
| 14:19.51 | file | and hi poor sick Sophie :( |
| 14:26.03 | pf-mobile | awww |
| 14:51.32 | CIA-5 | secure-testing: 03micah * r1999 10/data/DSA/list: |
| 14:51.32 | CIA-5 | secure-testing: New lm-sensors DSA, not in testing because waiting on rrdtool, waiting |
| 14:51.32 | CIA-5 | secure-testing: on perl |
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| 15:15.37 | *** join/#tacobeam scanlime (n=micah@zero.navi.cx) |
| 15:16.00 | file[laptop] | hail scanlime |
| 15:16.11 | scanlime | hi |
| 15:17.17 | prpplague | scanlime: morning crack baby |
| 15:17.53 | prpplague | scanlime: http://nds.cmamod.com/web_im/Bottom.jpg |
| 15:18.07 | prpplague | scanlime: thats the flash2advance usb device |
| 15:20.09 | prpplague | scanlime: average price for the units is $20.00 |
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| 15:33.56 | scanlime | prpplague: okay, so it's the AN2131... |
| 15:35.08 | prpplague | scanlime: yea, wish it was the fx2 but oh well |
| 15:35.17 | prpplague | scanlime: for the price you cant complain |
| 15:41.40 | Veight | ugh |
| 15:41.43 | Veight | being sick sucks |
| 15:43.07 | Cae | indeed, it does |
| 15:45.36 | kergoth | being depressed sucks too. laid in bed all morning not feeling up to getting up and facing the world |
| 15:45.38 | kergoth | heh |
| 15:45.48 | kergoth | bleh |
| 15:47.01 | Veight | umm who realy wants to face the world? i mean realy theres too many druggies and terrorists in it :P |
| 15:47.15 | kergoth | and idiots, they're almost as bad |
| 15:47.46 | numist | almost? |
| 15:50.57 | prpplague | kergoth: you too eh? |
| 15:52.32 | CIA-5 | numi-misc: 03numist * r127 10census/ (5 files in 3 dirs): org, better debug implementation, template fixes. boo |
| 15:57.01 | lurgy | hmm, scanlime's due to come out here in a couple of weeks, isn't he :) |
| 15:58.05 | file | lurgy: what evil thoughts are you thinking of? |
| 16:00.52 | Cae | humm..once this installs, I'll go drop my resume by lockheed martin and talk with them for a bit, and then I'll head over to Jenni |
| 16:01.04 | Cae | I'd apply to intel but I don't feel like it |
| 16:01.17 | Cae | since technically I've already probably got an internship for next summer |
| 16:01.33 | Cae | I just want info for the year after |
| 16:01.46 | Cae | must also apply to nsa and google. |
| 16:02.52 | scanlime | lurgy: yup! |
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| 16:04.09 | pf-mobile | who has muffins |
| 16:05.08 | Veight | mmm muffins |
| 16:05.11 | Veight | i want some |
| 16:06.20 | pf-mobile | yeah me too |
| 16:07.27 | scanlime | hmm |
| 16:07.31 | scanlime | they have muffins at work |
| 16:07.38 | scanlime | if I get there early enough... |
| 16:07.44 | pf-mobile | hey |
| 16:07.47 | pf-mobile | hey |
| 16:07.54 | pf-mobile | yeah I like muffins |
| 16:09.19 | Cae | back in a little while |
| 16:09.43 | darth_mall | wtf |
| 16:09.48 | darth_mall | I don't have inkscape installed on here |
| 16:12.02 | lurgy | scanlime: yay :) |
| 16:13.27 | scanlime | =( |
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| 16:16.41 | lurgy | and now.. skool |
| 16:19.39 | scanlime | sigh |
| 16:19.49 | scanlime | someone give Jen a hug for me |
| 16:27.13 | darth_mall | no! |
| 16:27.15 | darth_mall | no work for you! |
| 16:30.45 | pf-mobile | hey |
| 16:30.46 | pf-mobile | work is fun |
| 16:35.49 | scanlime | hrm |
| 16:36.28 | scanlime | apparently I didn't pay enough rent for this month? |
| 16:37.48 | scanlime | ahh.. |
| 16:37.51 | darth_mall | scanlime: you're such a criminal |
| 16:38.06 | scanlime | I wrote this month's check after looking in my bank records at last month |
| 16:38.12 | scanlime | but apparently last month had an extra discount |
| 16:38.44 | scanlime | they're charging me a $36 late fee on a $141 difference |
| 16:38.48 | scanlime | that seems rather steep |
| 16:39.03 | darth_mall | booo |
| 16:39.19 | darth_mall | is there someone you can talk to about that? |
| 16:39.46 | scanlime | probably, but I doubt it'd change anything |
| 16:40.17 | darth_mall | hmm |
| 16:40.23 | darth_mall | x-g's notification plugin needs a tooltip |
| 16:40.28 | scanlime | I should have just read my lease instead of assuming it was the same as last month's |
| 16:40.40 | scanlime | ah well |
| 16:40.45 | scanlime | I got paid again today |
| 16:41.08 | darth_mall | yay |
| 16:41.18 | darth_mall | uhoh |
| 16:41.24 | darth_mall | Klye's birthday is coming up |
| 16:41.39 | darth_mall | geez |
| 16:41.48 | darth_mall | my brother is turning 21 next tuesday |
| 16:41.54 | scanlime | ugh, I doubt I'll get to work in time for muffins |
| 16:42.00 | scanlime | usually they're all gone by 10:00 or so |
| 16:42.04 | scanlime | but there are always plenty of bagels |
| 16:42.08 | darth_mall | scanlime: drive fast! |
| 16:42.13 | darth_mall | like the wind, even! |
| 16:42.15 | scanlime | :) |
| 16:42.23 | darth_mall | and put on your red boots |
| 16:42.30 | scanlime | I have no red boots |
| 16:42.34 | darth_mall | oh |
| 16:42.46 | darth_mall | well go find one of those boxes with them in there and jump on it |
| 16:42.53 | scanlime | :) |
| 16:43.16 | darth_mall | bleh |
| 16:43.24 | darth_mall | I really hope this AI quiz is getting pushed back |
| 16:43.29 | scanlime | so I finally got them to set the PIN number on my debit card, since my ATM card expired |
| 16:43.36 | scanlime | I had no idea bank people could be so friendly |
| 16:43.45 | darth_mall | yay |
| 16:43.58 | scanlime | not that I'm used to them being mean.. but this girl in cupertino was just way nicer than I could have imagined a bank employee ever being |
| 16:44.00 | scanlime | it was weird |
| 16:44.02 | file | haha... one of my things for Asterisk might get commited today |
| 16:44.21 | darth_mall | that is pretty funny |
| 16:45.12 | darth_mall | mmm... gotta love the smell of burning dinosaur in the morning ^^ |
| 16:50.25 | darth_mall | morning ChipX86 |
| 16:51.37 | ChipX86 | morning |
| 16:52.19 | ChipX86 | 242 pieces of spam in my inbox, and 2 legit e-mails :/ |
| 16:53.15 | numist | Ive been flooded by cron recently... nerim hasnt been up reliably lately |
| 16:54.47 | ChipX86 | gah |
| 16:54.54 | ChipX86 | they're taking about removing icons from menus and buttons in gtk and gnome apps now |
| 16:55.33 | numist | ChipX86: WHY! |
| 16:55.46 | ChipX86 | they say it's too noisy |
| 16:55.47 | numist | ... |
| 16:56.01 | numist | it can be taken to extreme, but lets not go to the other extreme! icons are a good thing |
| 16:57.25 | darth_mall | especially when the icons are well made |
| 16:57.25 | file | darth_mall: it takes about 2-3 months to get something into CVS |
| 16:57.28 | darth_mall | I find them rather helpful |
| 16:57.30 | file | I did it in one and a half! |
| 16:57.35 | darth_mall | file: cool |
| 16:57.39 | file | on something I didn't really care about |
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| 17:19.03 | scanlime | ChipX86: they're a little late for April 1 |
| 17:19.13 | nullpuppy | or early |
| 17:19.25 | scanlime | so time is cyclical? |
| 17:19.39 | ChipX86 | I am? |
| 17:19.40 | nullpuppy | in some ways |
| 17:20.06 | ChipX86 | Thuomas is talking about how we went too far and how other OSes don't use icons on buttons and such, and Federico has a flag for turning off icons on buttons |
| 17:23.09 | scanlime | oh, they're not talking about getting rid of all icons, just using them only for important things |
| 17:23.16 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 17:23.57 | ChipX86 | Britney's poor kid's name is Preston Michael Spears - PMS |
| 17:24.04 | ChipX86 | and with that, bbl |
| 17:26.38 | purple_cow | oof |
| 17:27.00 | purple_cow | i just got two evolution calendar questions in as many days |
| 17:27.27 | darth_mall | hahaha |
| 17:28.10 | numist | scanlime: whats your experience with bluetooth, I have a cockamime idea and I'm going to need some help |
| 17:28.21 | file | our agents talk weird |
| 17:28.27 | file | Yes you should be it is a nice place to live. but every one must have some attraction with the soil of his own |
| 17:29.00 | purple_cow | (Platte Middle School) |
| 17:34.05 | scanlime | numist: never used it |
| 17:35.16 | numist | damn |
| 17:35.34 | numist | I want to make my main keyboard wireless, but they dont make wireless IBM bucklers anymore |
| 17:35.42 | numist | s/anymore/ever/ |
| 17:35.42 | scanlime | mmm |
| 17:36.02 | numist | I dont really know where to start, I was wondering if you'd be on board for a weekend hacking |
| 17:36.04 | *** join/#tacobeam pagefault (n=pagefaul@66.199.241.90) |
| 17:36.21 | scanlime | numist: possibly.. I'd sure like a wireless Model M |
| 17:36.21 | pagefault | hello |
| 17:36.24 | pagefault | I am in english class |
| 17:36.28 | numist | scanlime: :) |
| 17:36.29 | pagefault | how credibly boring |
| 17:36.33 | scanlime | numist: it's going to be tricky in any case |
| 17:36.34 | file | english class? but you already speak english! |
| 17:36.40 | numist | bluetooth was just an idea, since its the most popular short distance standard |
| 17:36.42 | pagefault | I said the same thing |
| 17:36.53 | numist | tricky, yeah I figured it would be, but it would be some awesomely cool |
| 17:37.03 | scanlime | numist: the Model M uses capacitive keyswitches, which no modern keyboard will talk to directly.. so you'll either need to keep its (very power hungry) controller board or build one from scratch |
| 17:37.06 | numist | I have the cable connector on the back, so it doesnt have to be case-integrated |
| 17:37.21 | numist | ah hmm |
| 17:37.43 | numist | Id love to say I'll build one from scratch, but I have no idea whats I'm getting into |
| 17:37.55 | scanlime | it's hard, especially with capacitive keyswitches |
| 17:38.04 | numist | :( |
| 17:38.21 | scanlime | I forget exactly how power hungry though, it might be workable |
| 17:38.57 | numist | efficiency is nice though |
| 17:39.03 | scanlime | yeah |
| 17:39.17 | numist | all of them |
| 17:39.25 | scanlime | ideally you want it to stay asleep all the time, with an interrupt generated when any key is pressed, then it transmits and immediately sleeps again |
| 17:39.32 | numist | yes |
| 17:39.32 | scanlime | you just can't do that without replacing the keyboard controller entirely |
| 17:39.38 | numist | hmm |
| 17:39.44 | numist | this keyboards pretty damn old too |
| 17:42.15 | numist | well... um yeah |
| 17:43.01 | pagefault | wow this class is boring |
| 17:43.39 | kergoth | heh |
| 17:44.44 | pagefault | talking about the "meaning" of this story |
| 17:45.10 | CIA-5 | numi-misc: 03numist * r128 10numist.net/ (200 files in 14 dirs): design docs and some existing code moved in for integration |
| 17:47.25 | *** join/#tacobeam pf-mobile (n=pagefaul@66.199.241.90) |
| 17:48.06 | prpplague | ~lart kergoth |
| 17:50.58 | numist | ~botsnack |
| 17:50.58 | jbot | numist: aw, gee |
| 17:50.58 | numist | aww... |
| 17:51.07 | numist | jeez, took it 6 seconds :/ |
| 17:51.08 | pf-mobile | ooh |
| 17:51.19 | pf-mobile | my insane perl teacher's web page isn't XHTML compliant |
| 17:51.22 | pf-mobile | it has an error on it |
| 17:51.25 | numist | :o |
| 17:51.26 | prpplague | numist: jbot is a busy bot |
| 17:51.27 | pf-mobile | I should point it out |
| 17:51.41 | numist | prpplague: no excuses! |
| 17:57.29 | purple_cow | ``After two days of confirmation hearings, senators did manage to get John Roberts to admit he occasionally watches movies and under some circumstances, may favor some over others'' |
| 17:58.32 | kergoth | *gasp* |
| 17:59.38 | prpplague | ~lart kergoth |
| 18:07.22 | kergoth | pf-mobile: addon set is mostly fixed. |
| 18:08.19 | pf-mobile | nice |
| 18:14.05 | numist | quiet today |
| 18:14.25 | prpplague | kergoth: think i'm gonna go get some zyban, hehe they sell it over the counter here |
| 18:14.26 | pf-mobile | Woman complains to cops after hitman she hired fails to get the job done |
| 18:14.26 | pf-mobile | A woman who hired a hitman to murder the wife of her lover, and then complained to police when he didn't do the job, has been arrested along with the hitman, police said. |
| 18:14.55 | file | smart |
| 18:14.57 | prpplague | pf-mobile: smart |
| 18:15.00 | pf-mobile | yep |
| 18:15.03 | prpplague | pf-mobile: most be in the US |
| 18:15.05 | prpplague | must |
| 18:15.07 | pf-mobile | nope |
| 18:15.08 | pf-mobile | japan |
| 18:15.10 | prpplague | wow |
| 18:15.17 | pf-mobile | The murderous intentions of Eriko Kawaguchi, a Tokyo Fire Fighting Department employee, came to light after she complained to police because the hitman didn't carry out the job, although she paid him about 15 million yen. |
| 18:15.37 | pf-mobile | "I came to know that the wife gave birth and then I felt betrayed (by the lover)," officers quoted Kawaguchi, 32, as saying about her motive for hiring the hitman. |
| 18:15.44 | prpplague | ~convert 15000000 YEN to USD |
| 18:16.10 | prpplague | ~exchange 15000000 YEN to USD |
| 18:16.23 | darth_mall | haha |
| 18:16.27 | prpplague | ~exchange 15000000YEN to USD |
| 18:16.27 | darth_mall | norway krone? |
| 18:16.29 | file | norway krone? |
| 18:16.39 | pf-mobile | try JPY |
| 18:16.40 | darth_mall | ~botsnack |
| 18:16.40 | jbot | darth_mall: :) |
| 18:16.48 | prpplague | ~exchange 15000000 JPY to USD |
| 18:16.59 | prpplague | pf-mobile: ahh |
| 18:17.08 | pf-mobile | need to use the ISO names :) |
| 18:17.14 | numist | what will I ever do with .21 pennies though? |
| 18:18.30 | pf-mobile | The murderous intentions of Eriko Kawaguchi, a Tokyo Fire Fighting Department employee, came to light after she complained to police because the hitman didn't carry out the job, although she paid him about 15 million yen. |
| 18:18.31 | pf-mobile | oops |
| 18:18.46 | pf-mobile | Tabe offered to murder the target by taking her on a motorbike into a tunnel and pouring poisonous bacteria over her. |
| 18:18.47 | file | bad pagefault bad! |
| 18:18.47 | pf-mobile | haha |
| 18:18.50 | pf-mobile | on motorbike? |
| 18:22.38 | scanlime | hehe |
| 18:22.51 | scanlime | I have two VMs fighting over the same USB device |
| 18:24.19 | pf-mobile | uh oh |
| 18:24.22 | numist | sweet |
| 18:24.23 | pf-mobile | MSN may be buying AIM from AOL |
| 18:24.28 | numist | wot!? |
| 18:24.34 | ChipX86 | that's one of the rumors |
| 18:24.47 | ChipX86 | it won't happen though |
| 18:24.50 | ChipX86 | not unless they buy AOL |
| 18:25.06 | numist | hey, google could do that... google is worth more than aol/time warner :P |
| 18:25.24 | ChipX86 | AOL will not give up AIM for any price unless they are bought out themselves |
| 18:25.31 | numist | aye |
| 18:25.32 | ChipX86 | AIM is AOL's big selling point. They are nothing without AIM |
| 18:25.40 | ChipX86 | and you can bet that anyone who buys it will have some contract saying that AOL can't provide an IM client |
| 18:25.45 | ChipX86 | or at least not their own |
| 18:25.46 | numist | without aim, aol users cannot instant message *anyone* |
| 18:25.50 | numist | just each other |
| 18:25.54 | ChipX86 | no, not even that |
| 18:26.03 | ChipX86 | because AOL uses AIM's protocol to IM |
| 18:26.07 | numist | right |
| 18:26.09 | ChipX86 | it's AIM built into the client |
| 18:26.12 | ChipX86 | they'll lose that too |
| 18:26.15 | ChipX86 | no more IM for anybody on AOL |
| 18:26.16 | numist | that what I mean |
| 18:26.28 | numist | they can remake an IM client in the AOL client, but it cant use the same network |
| 18:26.28 | ChipX86 | it just won't happen. MS has talked about this before and the rumors spread then |
| 18:26.36 | pf-mobile | 40 minutes of boring class left |
| 18:27.01 | ChipX86 | numist: I bet you that if MS bought AIM, their contract would state that AOL couldn't even do that, unless it was MS's client |
| 18:27.07 | ChipX86 | and AOL doesn't like MS |
| 18:27.09 | numist | scanlime: so, new keyboard controller board, I assume a microcontroller and a transmitter of sorts would be needed... hrm |
| 18:27.23 | numist | haha probably |
| 18:27.29 | numist | yeah, they really dont like each other |
| 18:27.36 | numist | and most people dont really like either of them |
| 18:27.41 | ChipX86 | :) |
| 18:27.43 | numist | quite the opposite in a lot of cases |
| 18:27.45 | pf-mobile | they will probably just merge the services |
| 18:27.49 | numist | so how'd they get so big? |
| 18:27.53 | pf-mobile | like they did with ICQ and AIM |
| 18:27.56 | pf-mobile | if it does happen |
| 18:28.12 | ChipX86 | numist: back when it was about service and not just net connection (before the internet was even common really) AOL provided a decent s ervice |
| 18:28.23 | ChipX86 | and then they bought the competitors |
| 18:28.29 | ChipX86 | no wonder they're #1! |
| 18:28.43 | pf-mobile | I hate MSN |
| 18:28.50 | numist | true |
| 18:28.52 | pf-mobile | yet everyone uses it |
| 18:28.56 | ChipX86 | it's a dangerous protocol |
| 18:29.09 | file | it's a protocol that hurts your head |
| 18:29.09 | numist | however, I was unhappy when they used their own program as the only method to access the internet |
| 18:29.11 | pf-mobile | people can't keep their name under 20 characters |
| 18:29.14 | pf-mobile | it drives me nuts |
| 18:29.22 | ChipX86 | a guy I know found so many ways to listen in on any users' conversations |
| 18:29.24 | ChipX86 | remotely |
| 18:29.37 | numist | now that Carrie has dsl, her mom still tried to open AOL to check email and browse, only after I uninstalled it and replaced it with fx/tbird did she get it |
| 18:30.12 | pf-mobile | a lot of my friends have switched to google talk though |
| 18:30.20 | numist | aol is not how you access the internet, it just gives you the connection, they _want_ you to use it so you wont know what to do if you switch |
| 18:30.35 | darth_mall | yes! |
| 18:30.39 | darth_mall | the quiz has been postponed |
| 18:30.39 | ChipX86 | google talk doesn't impress me |
| 18:30.55 | pf-mobile | I like the client |
| 18:31.04 | pf-mobile | it's lightweight and has voice that actually works |
| 18:31.04 | ChipX86 | people act as if it's revolutionary though |
| 18:31.06 | ChipX86 | it's so not |
| 18:31.09 | ChipX86 | it's nice and all |
| 18:31.14 | ChipX86 | but it's not some breakthrough |
| 18:31.19 | *** join/#tacobeam hardwire (n=hardwire@209-112-185-146-cdsl-rb1.nwc.acsalaska.net) |
| 18:31.25 | pf-mobile | I never thought of it as a breakthough |
| 18:31.34 | ChipX86 | a lot of people do |
| 18:31.34 | pf-mobile | but it's still nifty |
| 18:31.43 | pf-mobile | I like how it integrates with gmail |
| 18:31.44 | ChipX86 | the google fanboys who worship everything that is google without question |
| 18:32.01 | pf-mobile | but other than that it's just another IM client |
| 18:32.09 | ChipX86 | nod |
| 18:32.15 | pf-mobile | probably someone who didn't use gmail as their exclusive email account probably wouldn't find much use for it |
| 18:32.19 | pf-mobile | but I use gmail for almost everything |
| 18:32.27 | scanlime | they're out of half and half again |
| 18:32.30 | ChipX86 | I think it's good that they did it. I predicted it 2 years ago, but it's good that it's out and that it uses jabber and integrates voip. I'm certainly not against it |
| 18:32.46 | ChipX86 | I don't really use e-mail anymore :( |
| 18:33.04 | ChipX86 | if people point me to a thread I'll read it, but nobody really e-mails me personally and I've backed away from most projects |
| 18:33.13 | pf-mobile | if the client let you make free voip calls to real phones then it would be something |
| 18:34.33 | pf-mobile | the coolest thing google has done was google earth |
| 18:34.38 | pf-mobile | making it free |
| 18:36.30 | ChipX86 | I still think they need to buy ebay |
| 18:36.34 | ChipX86 | it'll get them skype and paypal |
| 18:36.37 | scanlime | that's really what google is good at: taking useful technology and making it actually usable and free |
| 18:37.07 | pf-mobile | gauction |
| 18:37.20 | scanlime | that sounds like some horrible disease |
| 18:37.29 | pf-mobile | hehe |
| 18:37.33 | pf-mobile | they would probably keep it as ebay |
| 18:43.59 | ChipX86 | gbay? |
| 18:44.07 | pf-mobile | mayb |
| 18:44.08 | pf-mobile | e |
| 18:44.13 | pf-mobile | gpay |
| 18:44.19 | ChipX86 | everyone knows "ebay" |
| 18:44.25 | ChipX86 | they'd be silly to rename it, but who knows |
| 18:44.34 | pf-mobile | maybe "Google eBay" |
| 18:45.02 | pf-mobile | I hope they stop using IIS if they buy it |
| 18:47.54 | numist | google auction |
| 18:48.14 | pf-mobile | they would probably tie it into froogle |
| 18:48.33 | scanlime | and google talk.. they could hyperlink product names directly to auctions |
| 18:48.51 | pf-mobile | or use adsense to advertise auctions for a fee |
| 18:48.55 | pf-mobile | think of the possibilities |
| 18:49.11 | ChipX86 | every time you mention an address of some kind, it could link it to a map |
| 18:49.45 | scanlime | or Google Subliminal Messenger to 'coerce' people to bid on your items! |
| 18:49.49 | ChipX86 | :D |
| 18:49.55 | pf-mobile | or it could detect when you are hungry and automatically order food |
| 18:50.11 | scanlime | from Google Eats? |
| 18:50.15 | pf-mobile | yep |
| 18:50.18 | scanlime | I want Google Pie |
| 18:50.28 | ChipX86 | I like Google Ride Finder |
| 18:50.32 | scanlime | it could have a SOAP API for automatically ordering pies |
| 18:50.32 | ChipX86 | awesome little service |
| 18:50.34 | pf-mobile | would you like to googolplex that? |
| 18:50.38 | kergoth | ride finder? |
| 18:50.48 | kergoth | scanlime: then wow could have /pie |
| 18:50.54 | ChipX86 | kergoth: it's google maps with little constantly updated things showing where the taxis are nearest you |
| 18:50.55 | numist | ChipX86: ride finder? |
| 18:51.01 | kergoth | ChipX86: neat |
| 18:51.37 | pf-mobile | need better wifi coverage for that to be really useful though |
| 18:51.55 | ChipX86 | still neat. I thought it was a fake joke, since it came out April 1st |
| 18:52.02 | pf-mobile | yeah |
| 18:52.06 | pf-mobile | everyone though gmail was a joke too |
| 18:52.12 | numist | and the 2gig upgrade |
| 18:52.16 | ChipX86 | they like to annoucne on April 1st |
| 18:52.19 | ChipX86 | they tend to be real things |
| 18:52.23 | ChipX86 | but you never know |
| 18:52.31 | pf-mobile | google moon was funny |
| 18:52.31 | numist | you know what Ive realised though |
| 18:52.41 | ChipX86 | pf-mobile: it's made of cheese! |
| 18:52.47 | numist | using invites on gmail was a really good idea since spammers cant create accounts automatically/easily |
| 18:52.56 | ChipX86 | yeah, true |
| 18:52.57 | numist | theres limited invites based on longevity... |
| 18:53.12 | numist | before, I thought it was elitist and stupid, but now I realise its actually quite a smart idea |
| 18:53.37 | ChipX86 | I never thought of it that way |
| 18:53.40 | pf-mobile | The murderous intentions of Eriko Kawaguchi, a Tokyo Fire Fighting Department employee, came to light after she complained to police because the hitman didn't carry out the job, although she paid him about 15 million yen. |
| 18:53.41 | pf-mobile | blah |
| 18:53.48 | pf-mobile | New internet-linked household robot Wakamaru "chats" with an attendant at Japan's Mitsubishi Heavy Industry in Tokyo on September 15, 2005. A hundred of these 100-cm (40 inch) tall Mitsubishi robots will go on sale in Tokyo at a cost of 1,575,000 yen ($14,260). Photo: Reuters |
| 18:53.50 | pf-mobile | stupid clipboard |
| 18:54.10 | pf-mobile | I isntalled office and it installed this stupid thing that records everything you copy into the clipboard |
| 18:54.25 | pf-mobile | and I have no idea how to shut it off |
| 18:54.37 | pf-mobile | but that robot is cool |
| 18:54.38 | pf-mobile | I want one |
| 18:54.43 | numist | if you find out, tell me.. I hate it |
| 18:54.59 | pf-mobile | yeah well I hate it when it pastes the wrong thing |
| 18:55.53 | pf-mobile | http://mdn.mainichi-msn.co.jp/photospecials/graph/photojournal/1.html |
| 18:57.14 | pf-mobile | it looks like something out of dr. who |
| 19:02.24 | pf-mobile | oh wwo |
| 19:02.24 | pf-mobile | wow |
| 19:02.26 | pf-mobile | I hate this clipboard |
| 19:02.39 | pf-mobile | I can't clear it |
| 19:02.48 | pf-mobile | why do MS products have to suck so much |
| 19:05.01 | numist | they only suck for people with predefined concepts of how they *should* run :) |
| 19:06.07 | ChipX86 | scanlime: T`2 (a vmware employee, but he's on freenode atm) wants to know of some cheap hardware shops where he can buy an oscilloscope |
| 19:06.46 | prpplague | halted.com |
| 19:06.51 | numist | ChipX86: I got mine on eBay for really cheap |
| 19:07.00 | ChipX86 | I think he's looking for stores in this general area |
| 19:07.09 | numist | hmm |
| 19:07.33 | prpplague | unless he lives in a really big metro area, oscopes are hard to get locally |
| 19:07.35 | ChipX86 | grr, why is this button losing default... |
| 19:07.46 | ChipX86 | prpplague: he lives in Palo Alto |
| 19:07.52 | prpplague | oh |
| 19:07.55 | prpplague | yea well |
| 19:07.58 | ChipX86 | VMware employee :) |
| 19:08.05 | prpplague | lot different than someplace like dfw |
| 19:08.33 | prpplague | ChipX86: http://www.halted.com/commerce/info/contactinfo.jsp;jsessionid=A49642041D81CDEF15E1E61EF0FA320F?czuid=1126810344953 |
| 19:08.42 | prpplague | ChipX86: http://www.halted.com/commerce/info/contactinfo.jsp |
| 19:08.54 | numist | hehe |
| 19:09.12 | ChipX86 | cool |
| 19:09.22 | prpplague | numist: they have a pretty good biz rep |
| 19:10.25 | ChipX86 | heh my manager is like 3 offices down and yet we're chatting on IM |
| 19:15.18 | file | argh |
| 19:15.27 | file | there has to be an easy way to take records from one table and move them to another |
| 19:16.55 | prpplague | file: pick them up and try not to scratch them while carrying them to the other table |
| 19:17.25 | file | :P |
| 19:17.31 | file | good one Mr. Anders, good one |
| 19:17.37 | file | good one... TO DIE |
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| 19:23.37 | *** join/#tacobeam scanlime (n=micah@zero.navi.cx) |
| 19:23.44 | scanlime | ug |
| 19:23.59 | prpplague | scanlime: re |
| 19:24.32 | prpplague | scanlime: everytime i see your new nick i have a mental pick of my lime tree in the back yard |
| 19:24.54 | ChipX86 | a lot of vmware people have bands |
| 19:27.15 | scanlime | ooh |
| 19:27.18 | scanlime | I got a cafebabe exception |
| 19:27.24 | ChipX86 | :) |
| 19:29.08 | numist | sweet |
| 19:29.40 | prpplague | cafebabe exception? |
| 19:50.30 | ChipX86 | hmm we should have left for the interview already |
| 19:50.33 | ChipX86 | Regis is taking a while :) |
| 19:52.01 | scanlime | uh oh, interview |
| 19:53.47 | purple_cow | oof |
| 19:53.56 | purple_cow | "i prefer to recieve papers in word format" |
| 19:54.04 | purple_cow | screw you, TA, you're getting pdf |
| 19:54.46 | scanlime | which TA do you have? |
| 19:55.00 | purple_cow | brita munsinger |
| 19:55.20 | prpplague | ta? |
| 19:55.34 | purple_cow | "teaching assistant" |
| 19:55.46 | scanlime | must be new.. last year the TAs liked word too, they marked up documents with those little comment bubbles |
| 19:56.02 | prpplague | ew |
| 19:56.04 | purple_cow | you can do little comment bubbles with acrobat too |
| 19:56.10 | scanlime | nod |
| 19:56.27 | prpplague | which school? |
| 19:56.36 | purple_cow | but, in any case, it's our decision how we do these documents |
| 19:56.42 | purple_cow | if it makes her life moderately harder, too bad |
| 19:56.49 | purple_cow | prpplague: CU |
| 19:57.29 | prpplague | purple_cow: calcutta university? hehe |
| 19:58.40 | purple_cow | colorado |
| 19:59.56 | prpplague | oh |
| 19:59.58 | prpplague | hehe |
| 20:00.18 | prpplague | i've heard colorado and arizona both have good computer related schools |
| 20:00.25 | scanlime | you hear lies |
| 20:00.44 | scanlime | I mean, CU isn't awful.. lots of CS departments suck |
| 20:00.59 | scanlime | but CU definitely isn't know for having a good CS dept |
| 20:01.05 | purple_cow | i bet CU is on par with other "good" schools |
| 20:01.09 | scanlime | they do have good aerospace... |
| 20:01.13 | scanlime | purple_cow: that saddens me |
| 20:01.18 | purple_cow | i would be willing to bet there are only 2 or 3 really great CS schools in the world |
| 20:01.26 | scanlime | yeah |
| 20:01.41 | purple_cow | and aside from that, you just get a couple really great classes and a bunch of crap |
| 20:02.15 | CIA-5 | smrt: 03jupiter * r27 10docs/ (13 files in 5 dirs): moving & renaming, stage 1 |
| 20:03.00 | prpplague | hmmm |
| 20:03.35 | CIA-5 | smrt: 03jupiter * r28 10docs/initial-requirements/Makefile: update to reflect moved lib dir |
| 20:03.35 | scanlime | it's overrated |
| 20:04.09 | prpplague | scanlime: yea well sometimes it good to have some basics, ive had to learn everything over the net and books |
| 20:04.42 | scanlime | prpplague: please believe me when I tell you that's far preferable to school |
| 20:04.47 | prpplague | scanlime: hehe |
| 20:04.53 | prpplague | scanlime: grass is greener |
| 20:05.00 | scanlime | prpplague: you learn much more when you have to search for the information yourself |
| 20:05.14 | scanlime | prpplague: no. even when I was in school, I learned way more on my own projects |
| 20:05.16 | purple_cow | there are some things that are better learned in school if you get the right professor |
| 20:05.30 | scanlime | purple_cow: very few things... |
| 20:05.35 | purple_cow | programming techniques, algorithms, data structures, etc are *not* in that list |
| 20:05.57 | scanlime | mathy things tend to be better in school with a good prof |
| 20:06.12 | scanlime | but that good professor is very elusive |
| 20:06.34 | scanlime | prpplague: anyway, I'm not in school any more.. no more grass :P |
| 20:06.39 | prpplague | ahh |
| 20:07.20 | prpplague | hmm my linuxrc doesn't appear to be executing |
| 20:10.30 | scanlime | purple_cow: I found a 4.5" diameter hole saw last night! |
| 20:10.56 | scanlime | kinda pricey.. but I should be able to get lots of use out of it |
| 20:12.29 | nullpuppy | haha :) |
| 20:13.18 | kergoth | lol |
| 20:13.18 | kergoth | nice |
| 20:14.46 | scanlime | would have been nice to have that when I was making my first disk box |
| 20:14.59 | scanlime | or heck, when we were originally putting navi together |
| 20:18.52 | prpplague | i thought the kernel was suppose to read the linuxrc first by default, is that not correct? |
| 20:36.02 | kergoth | purple_cow: its the script that gets run in an initrd to mount the real rootfs, generally |
| 20:36.09 | purple_cow | ah |
| 20:36.09 | prpplague | linuxrc the name of an app that is booted commonly with initial ramdisks |
| 20:37.23 | prpplague | purple_cow: can;t live without them in the embedded world |
| 20:37.29 | scanlime | yes you can :P |
| 20:38.17 | purple_cow | i know they're useful, but it seems that in a lot of cases, they're used when they're not necessary, and that has made my life hard |
| 20:38.43 | kergoth | things are moving more and more to early userspace |
| 20:41.38 | *** join/#tacobeam zak (n=zak@zero.navi.cx) |
| 20:41.48 | scanlime | hi zak |
| 20:41.49 | zak | nullpuppy: i know what nanowrimo is! |
| 20:41.52 | zak | hiya scanlime |
| 20:42.28 | purple_cow | kergoth: i don't care. i still don't like them |
| 20:42.33 | kergoth | purple_cow: imho the biggest issue with initrds is the lack of clean, easy to use, maintainable tools for constructing them in or near the kernel boot process |
| 20:43.42 | scanlime | hehe |
| 20:43.42 | zak | oh crap |
| 20:43.58 | prpplague | doh, attempt to kill init |
| 20:44.31 | scanlime | aw |
| 20:44.37 | scanlime | come to CA, it never freezes here |
| 20:44.46 | zak | lol, thinking about it |
| 20:44.57 | scanlime | really? |
| 20:45.14 | zak | might come over spring break..or better, convince you to go adventuring some where not in the US |
| 20:45.20 | scanlime | :) |
| 20:45.40 | zak | italy, but you were just there...japan...china...india, i suppose.. |
| 20:45.40 | purple_cow | zak: i've been transcribing the player section of the paranoia book |
| 20:45.42 | purple_cow | zak: http://david.navi.cx/paranoia/ |
| 20:45.45 | scanlime | and my vacation days are going to be busted after my trip to boulder |
| 20:45.58 | purple_cow | username 'access', you know the password |
| 20:46.08 | scanlime | purple_cow: that sounds like MovieOS... |
| 20:46.21 | zak | scanlime: i imagine you might be able to build up another week by march :P |
| 20:46.44 | purple_cow | scanlime: kind of. mostly i just want to avoid getting sued |
| 20:46.50 | scanlime | zak: yeah |
| 20:47.01 | scanlime | purple_cow: oh, I know. I'm just amused by the username |
| 20:47.02 | purple_cow | and i couldn't think of a better username |
| 20:47.14 | zak | to late, you have been sued |
| 20:47.16 | purple_cow | who is sue? |
| 20:47.21 | purple_cow | oh |
| 20:47.22 | zak | who cares? |
| 20:48.53 | prpplague | kergoth: odd, my linuxrc executed, but after it was finished it didn't execute /sbin/init |
| 20:49.16 | scanlime | prpplague: obviously you need to invent init.ko |
| 20:49.29 | zak | ummm....occasionaly stapled? |
| 20:49.47 | kergoth | prpplague: i dont remember what circumstances under which /sbin/init gets run when using a linuxrc. read initrd.txt in Documentation/, or init.c in kernel/ |
| 20:50.06 | purple_cow | zak: characters often die in dead-like-me manners |
| 20:50.10 | prpplague | kergoth: yea looking at it now |
| 20:50.14 | zak | hehe |
| 20:50.21 | scanlime | :) |
| 20:50.22 | zak | this could be quite entertaining |
| 20:50.30 | prpplague | kergoth: i've used this before, odd i don't remember any gotchas |
| 20:51.08 | zak | hehe. in a non-jazz-band sort of way. fantastic |
| 20:52.03 | purple_cow | zak: make sure to read a lot of the stuff there in kind of a sarcastic tone ;) |
| 20:52.10 | scanlime | zak: I've got a couple episodes on mini-navi |
| 20:53.03 | zak | no comments from the currently dead, please. |
| 20:55.23 | zak | hehe. you survive entirely at the pleasure of the GM, who shields your from other characters. |
| 20:55.26 | zak | entertain or die. |
| 20:55.52 | zak | purple_cow: are you sure you don't want my brother to play? you could kill him. often. ^_^ |
| 20:56.01 | purple_cow | yep. if a character isn't entertaining in life, i'll make them entertaining in death |
| 20:56.09 | purple_cow | zak: well, i was having second thoughts about that |
| 20:56.22 | purple_cow | since having someone there who likes to argue as much as he does could be fun |
| 20:57.42 | scanlime | hehe |
| 20:58.08 | zak | it's up to you, you know his email |
| 20:58.29 | zak | scanlime: you are a mutant traitor! |
| 20:59.30 | zak | but! |
| 20:59.42 | scanlime | zak: actually, I can use that lemon to prove that *you* in fact are treasonous! |
| 20:59.45 | zak | the study of propulsion could lead to more advanced ways to shoot people with lemons. |
| 21:00.06 | scanlime | zak: do you have yellow clearance? |
| 21:00.17 | zak | scanlime: i painted the lemon red |
| 21:00.20 | scanlime | oh |
| 21:00.22 | zak | i have red clearence |
| 21:00.46 | scanlime | >:) |
| 21:02.09 | zak | on the other side, she paints a brick wall. |
| 21:02.22 | scanlime | ow, brick |
| 21:02.49 | zak | while scanlime attempts to remove the wall with his paint thinner, zak beats a hasty retreat into somewhereelse land. |
| 21:03.06 | scanlime | hehe |
| 21:03.22 | scanlime | I don't recall ever fighting godzilla, but that is *so* what I would have done |
| 21:03.39 | zak | what? beat a hasty retreat into somewhere else land? |
| 21:03.55 | scanlime | pretty much |
| 21:04.10 | zak | that's not nice |
| 21:04.40 | scanlime | well, hasty retreats just make me mad |
| 21:04.44 | scanlime | I'm a bad person |
| 21:06.38 | zak | i just shut the browser i was trying to read |
| 21:07.01 | zak | I suppose that is a sign I should continue running away and go work on that propulsion nonsense. |
| 21:07.09 | zak | maybe i'll work somewhere not so cold. |
| 21:07.16 | scanlime | :( |
| 21:10.03 | zak | it's not the end of the world just annoying |
| 21:10.22 | zak | and it's 'go poof' time...catch ya all later |
| 21:10.28 | zak | ::poof:: |
| 21:10.47 | kergoth | erm, s/and/as/ |
| 21:11.04 | zak_gone | oh i don't know, i am amused by the revision ^_^ |
| 21:11.11 | kergoth | hehe |
| 21:11.36 | nullpuppy | zak_gone: hehe, cool :) |
| 21:12.53 | prpplague | kergoth: hmm, since i'm not using pivot_root, i guess i need to include /sbin/init at the end of linuxrc to get started |
| 21:13.07 | kergoth | make sure you remebmer to use 'exec' |
| 21:13.22 | kergoth | otherwise init wont be the first process, and the shit will hit the fan |
| 21:13.38 | scanlime | zak_gone: zero rebooted again today :( |
| 21:13.55 | scanlime | I'm really starting to get annoyed with linode and UML in general |
| 21:14.29 | prpplague | kergoth: yea, just seems like i used this before without having to exec /sbin/init inside the linuxrc script |
| 21:25.09 | *** join/#tacobeam darth_mall (n=evan@zero.navi.cx) |
| 21:28.45 | darth_mall | yay |
| 21:30.30 | numist | ChipX86: ping |
| 21:31.22 | numist | oh nm, shower time |
| 21:33.51 | ChipX86 | pong |
| 21:36.26 | darth_mall | hehe |
| 21:37.54 | ChipX86 | bahhh |
| 21:37.57 | ChipX86 | I need gtk with debug info |
| 21:38.18 | ChipX86 | oh packages, yay |
| 21:38.26 | scanlime | why doesn't grep have a short option for --line-buffered? |
| 21:38.42 | ChipX86 | Aleksandr found a bug that makes me sad :( |
| 21:38.50 | scanlime | aw |
| 21:38.57 | ChipX86 | and it shouldn't be able to happen |
| 21:38.59 | scanlime | he found a bug that made me sad, but it turned out to be a kernel bug |
| 21:39.06 | ChipX86 | :) |
| 21:39.20 | scanlime | but vmware was silently misbehaving due to it.. |
| 21:39.21 | ChipX86 | a lot of our bugs are gtk bugs, but we can't use that excuse if there's any chance we can work around it |
| 21:39.28 | scanlime | so my fix consisted of adding an error message :P |
| 21:39.59 | ChipX86 | :) |
| 21:40.02 | ChipX86 | what was the bug? |
| 21:40.02 | scanlime | nod |
| 21:40.23 | scanlime | vmware couldn't disconnect another linux driver from a USB device under 64-bit linux |
| 21:40.41 | scanlime | it was an ioctl that wasn't being translated properly between 64-bit and 32-bit in the kernel |
| 21:41.02 | scanlime | we could have worked around it, but it's kind of a minor problem and chris didn't want to |
| 21:42.34 | ChipX86 | yay mks bugs |
| 21:54.29 | numist | ChipX86: could you change p.t.c to n.net/blog from n.net/wordpress? :) |
| 21:54.37 | ChipX86 | I can la ter |
| 21:54.45 | ChipX86 | got a meeting with jocelyn in a couple mins |
| 21:54.48 | numist | 'course :) |
| 21:54.54 | numist | I got a while until I update too |
| 21:55.38 | kergoth | hmmmm |
| 21:55.40 | file[laptop] | yay my app got into the asterisk cvs |
| 21:55.41 | kergoth | methinks pizza is in order |
| 22:00.26 | CIA-5 | numi-misc: 03numist * r129 10numist.net/ (design.txt index.html): quick update to the necessities |
| 22:03.17 | ChipX86 | I love all the accents around here |
| 22:03.59 | ChipX86 | this girl with a really sexy russian accent was just in here |
| 22:04.34 | scanlime | hehe |
| 22:08.55 | scanlime | ugh |
| 22:08.56 | scanlime | me too |
| 22:13.13 | ChipX86 | UGHGHHH |
| 22:13.25 | ChipX86 | stupid stupid logic |
| 22:13.34 | scanlime | backtraces need to work across IPC boundaries :) |
| 22:13.38 | ChipX86 | yo ucan only set a button to be default if nothing is focused or if the focused thing cannot be set as default |
| 22:14.09 | scanlime | hah |
| 22:14.59 | ChipX86 | I bet this will work. |
| 22:15.01 | ChipX86 | sheesh |
| 22:15.07 | ChipX86 | that needs to be documented |
| 22:15.40 | CIA-5 | numi-misc: 03numist * r130 10numist.net/gallery/ (5631 files in 2140 dirs): |
| 22:15.40 | CIA-5 | numi-misc: damn thats a lotta files... |
| 22:15.40 | CIA-5 | numi-misc: gallery has been integrated. |
| 22:29.24 | scanlime | ChipX86: are we using mksInterface? |
| 22:30.38 | scanlime | oh, hmm |
| 22:36.14 | CIA-5 | secure-testing: 03micah * r2008 10/data/DTSA/advs/18-lm-sensors.adv: Prepare lm-sensors DTSA |
| 23:03.33 | CIA-5 | secure-testing: 03micah * r2009 10/data/DTSA/advs/ (4 files): Moving kdelibs up so i can release lm-sensors |
| 23:08.18 | CIA-5 | secure-testing: 03micah * r2010 10/data/DTSA/advs/17-lm-sensors.adv: Fix version typo |
| 23:08.38 | *** join/#tacobeam file[laptop] (n=jcolp@mctnnbsa31w-142166116236.nb.aliant.net) |
| 23:11.10 | CIA-5 | secure-testing: 03micah * r2011 10/ (data/DTSA/list website/DTSA/DTSA-17-1.html website/list.html): Prepare DTSA-17-1 |
| 23:11.57 | ChipX86 | back |
| 23:14.30 | scanlime | heh, I forgot how much "fun" debugging C++ is |
| 23:14.42 | scanlime | I just stepped through about 20 functions to execute a function call |
| 23:15.00 | CIA-5 | secure-testing: 03micah * r2012 10/data/DTSA/hints/micah: hint in lm-sensors |
| 23:15.19 | ChipX86 | scanlime: you're getting a lot done at once |
| 23:15.23 | ChipX86 | secure-testing *and* VMware |
| 23:15.46 | file[laptop] | he's a double edged sword |
| 23:16.13 | scanlime | ugh, nope, I'm still going... |
| 23:16.15 | scanlime | COM is so much fun |
| 23:16.24 | ChipX86 | WHY GOD WHY |
| 23:16.59 | scanlime | COM? |
| 23:17.08 | ChipX86 | no, this gtk bug |
| 23:17.45 | ChipX86 | you know what my favorite question is that every interviewee asks? |
| 23:17.49 | ChipX86 | "Are the hours strict?" |
| 23:17.56 | ChipX86 | or "What are the hours?" |
| 23:18.58 | scanlime | :) |
| 23:19.01 | scanlime | how'd it go? |
| 23:19.12 | ChipX86 | eh, ok |
| 23:19.21 | ChipX86 | very quiet guy, couldn't get him to talk much about anything |
| 23:19.27 | file[laptop] | so Chip, what are the hours? |
| 23:19.28 | scanlime | ah |
| 23:19.29 | numist | that wont work |
| 23:19.42 | scanlime | ugh. I need a pop tart and some mountain dew |
| 23:19.43 | ChipX86 | he's only applying for UI because the person on the phone when he originally called recommended it |
| 23:19.50 | ChipX86 | he's more into system stuff |
| 23:19.59 | ChipX86 | file[laptop]: any time until any other time |
| 23:20.07 | ChipX86 | scanlime: I'll join you |
| 23:20.31 | ChipX86 | why the hell did that just work! |
| 23:20.36 | ChipX86 | *grrr* |
| 23:22.04 | file[laptop] | you two are plotting something I bet |
| 23:34.40 | scanlime | hehe |
| 23:34.54 | scanlime | I never see ChipX86's messages until after I get back.. so I just run into him in the cafeteria randomly it seems |
| 23:34.56 | ChipX86 | we discussed horrible, horrible things we're going to do to cause you all pain |
| 23:34.59 | ChipX86 | :) |
| 23:35.11 | file[laptop] | scary |
| 23:35.51 | scanlime | it's kind of disconcerting how in windows, an application draws its own window borders rather than having a separate window manager process do it |
| 23:36.07 | scanlime | it makes for really smooth synchronization between borders and app contents, but it fails in strange ways |
| 23:48.06 | ChipX86 | ok, the bug is mostly fixed |
| 23:48.14 | ChipX86 | enough to send in for review |
| 23:56.02 | ChipX86 | AH-HA |
| 23:56.19 | ChipX86 | haha |
| 23:56.34 | ChipX86 | "I am confident that this Beagle release is one of the most important events in all of human history." |
| 23:59.52 | scanlime | wow, it got late |
