| 00:00.52 | purple_cow | good episode |
| 00:02.00 | file[laptop] | pagefault: new Family Guy tonight, and American Dad |
| 00:02.06 | file[laptop] | and The Bourne Identity is on, plus Stargate |
| 00:02.07 | pagefault | yeah |
| 00:02.08 | pagefault | and simpsons now |
| 00:03.17 | file[laptop] | ooh Stargate is on later too, beautiful |
| 00:03.34 | pagefault | new atlantis tomorrow too |
| 00:03.36 | pagefault | too much to watch |
| 00:03.48 | file[laptop] | indeed - it's crazy |
| 00:10.36 | gonkulator | kerspam |
| 00:29.16 | file[laptop] | that was a weird ending for The Simpsons |
| 00:51.23 | pagefault | yeah |
| 00:51.27 | pagefault | simpsons isn't very good these days |
| 01:12.31 | pagefault | haha that was so wrong |
| 01:53.10 | kergoth | tomorrow's monday :(( |
| 01:54.18 | rioter | in my world, todays monday |
| 01:55.45 | rioter | and i have classes to goto, so live that sunday well |
| 01:56.07 | kergoth | heh |
| 01:56.12 | kergoth | ~today |
| 01:56.16 | jbot | I don't know what today is, but it probably sucks. |
| 02:09.44 | file[laptop] | blah |
| 02:19.36 | kergoth | grr |
| 02:29.16 | scanlime | mmm, gamin |
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| 02:55.58 | kergoth | bleh |
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| 02:57.57 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03micah * r8894 10evfs/ (. evfs-test.glade evfs-test.py evfs.py): This is an event-driven filesystem supporting filters for unioning, metadata gathering, and such. It's still really early in development, but seems almost worth committing now. |
| 03:01.28 | scanlime | it's still really rough.. but I have a test program that does something other than just sit there ;) |
| 03:02.14 | purple_cow | huh |
| 03:02.21 | purple_cow | can't have fam & gamin installed at the same time? |
| 03:02.28 | scanlime | huh |
| 03:02.39 | scanlime | well, it'd be trivial to make it use either fam or gamin if they're installed |
| 03:05.37 | alm262 | evfs? |
| 03:06.28 | ChipX86 | I should not be dealing with users today. It's just a bad idea. |
| 03:06.47 | alm262 | ChipX86: gaim users? |
| 03:07.16 | scanlime | heh |
| 03:07.19 | ChipX86 | vmware. |
| 03:07.25 | scanlime | alm262: read the commit, that's all you need to know ;) |
| 03:09.09 | purple_cow | aha, gamin provides libfam |
| 03:09.38 | purple_cow | and if i upgrade my kernel, it'll use inotify |
| 03:09.40 | purple_cow | excellent |
| 03:10.01 | scanlime | :) |
| 03:10.37 | alm262 | scanlime: isn't evfs also the name of some enlightenment component? |
| 03:10.42 | scanlime | This opera's as lousy as it is brilliant! |
| 03:11.26 | ChipX86 | people never answer my questions. |
| 03:11.56 | scanlime | alm262: you can't just have your characters announce how they feel. That makes me feel angry! |
| 03:19.30 | ChipX86 | awww, this backup is causing my music to skip |
| 03:23.57 | ChipX86 | I should set up gigabit ethernet here, nwo that the prices don't suck very badly |
| 03:25.14 | scanlime | I suspect gigabit won't help all that much.. linux needs QoS queueing for I/O :) |
| 03:25.52 | ChipX86 | oh, I was thinking more for VMs |
| 03:26.13 | scanlime | ah |
| 03:28.03 | scanlime | actually, some kind of prioritized I/O queueing would just be nifty in general. It'd be great for virtual servers, and for keeping video/audio streams going while doing bulk operations in the background |
| 03:28.21 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 03:29.01 | ChipX86 | I think I got most of the quirks out of this backup process. It's not perfect, and I have to tweak more things, but at least it seems to be getting all the data I care about |
| 03:29.13 | scanlime | I'm getting close to being able to set up mine.. |
| 03:29.25 | scanlime | I finished sorting the navi disks today, so I have four of them in my stack that should stay put for a while |
| 03:29.25 | kergoth | i'd be surprised if work isnt already being done on that for improving soft real time responsiveness. i remember reading about some patches to that effect |
| 03:29.26 | kergoth | heh |
| 03:29.35 | scanlime | now I just need to make enough free space on each disk that I can do rotating backups |
| 03:29.44 | scanlime | kergoth: nod |
| 03:30.11 | alm262 | hey kergoth how's it going? |
| 03:30.37 | kergoth | pretty good. keepin busy. you? |
| 03:30.56 | alm262 | been busy, now that I'm working part time and going to school |
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| 03:42.29 | ChipX86 | hah. |
| 03:42.33 | ChipX86 | my libgdiplus was massively out of date |
| 03:42.38 | ChipX86 | and now a lot of my problems have gone away |
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| 03:43.26 | Cae | who's alive? |
| 03:43.34 | file[muon] | I am. |
| 03:43.37 | file[muon] | Would you like to kill me? |
| 03:43.40 | Cae | nah |
| 03:43.47 | file[muon] | darn |
| 03:44.12 | ChipX86 | Cae: define alive |
| 03:44.28 | Cae | why do I like the broken ones? |
| 03:44.35 | ChipX86 | broken people? |
| 03:44.43 | alm262 | hi Cae |
| 03:44.53 | Cae | yeah |
| 03:44.58 | Cae | alm262: er? |
| 03:45.11 | Cae | who are you? |
| 03:45.19 | alm262 | merlin262 |
| 03:45.23 | ChipX86 | ohh |
| 03:45.25 | Cae | ohhhh, okay :) |
| 03:45.25 | ChipX86 | I wondered |
| 03:45.52 | file[muon] | ah yes we all have those |
| 03:45.53 | alm262 | truth be told, I got tired of merlin and am searching for something better |
| 03:47.06 | ChipX86 | file[muon]: not everyone |
| 03:47.11 | Cae | but yes. why do I like the broken people? |
| 03:47.25 | Cae | it's inconvenient as hell, you know. |
| 03:47.51 | file[muon] | ChipX86: you'll have one... just wait |
| 03:48.02 | ChipX86 | file[muon]: I've had this nick for a very long time |
| 03:48.23 | ChipX86 | at this point, it's like saying, "Should I change my name from Christian?" |
| 03:50.34 | nullpuppy|out | yeah, I had one of those.. it was ages ago though |
| 03:51.03 | file[muon] | nullpuppy: you have a cool real name! |
| 03:51.11 | nullpuppy | I do! |
| 03:51.30 | file[muon] | one of the people who uses asterisk has son... has a cool name, Onyx... quite neat - I liked it |
| 03:51.34 | file[muon] | er has a son |
| 03:51.43 | nullpuppy | hehe |
| 03:52.34 | ChipX86 | isn't that a pokemon? |
| 03:52.52 | file[muon] | yeah... and the name of a server for a place that does free shell accounts |
| 03:53.14 | scanlime | I'm just going to keep changing my nick one letter at a time, for a gradual transition |
| 03:53.25 | file[muon] | ending going to be a surprise? |
| 03:53.47 | nullpuppy | haha |
| 03:54.00 | ChipX86 | just don't change the "i" to "a" |
| 03:54.17 | nullpuppy | haha |
| 03:54.20 | alm262 | is that the reason for the m? |
| 03:54.44 | scanlime | limes are tastier than lines? |
| 03:54.46 | scanlime | and more legal? |
| 03:55.05 | file[muon] | do you come in lemon too? |
| 03:55.24 | ChipX86 | WHY did they take my dash away?! |
| 03:55.46 | nullpuppy | you should change the m back to an n, and change the e to a t |
| 03:55.56 | Cae | this shit sucks. |
| 03:56.05 | ChipX86 | yeah :/ |
| 03:56.16 | Cae | it's teasing, and that's just cruel. |
| 03:57.51 | ChipX86 | bah |
| 03:57.54 | ChipX86 | all dash styles are broken |
| 03:58.04 | scanlime | dash? |
| 03:58.11 | ChipX86 | System.Drawing.Pen |
| 03:58.17 | ChipX86 | I want a dashed rectangle |
| 03:58.25 | ChipX86 | it worked fine before upgrading libgdiplus, of course everything else was broken |
| 03:58.33 | ChipX86 | now that's broken but the other things are fixed |
| 03:58.50 | file[muon] | never ending battle |
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| 04:03.37 | ChipX86 | heh |
| 04:03.43 | ChipX86 | I can see the dashes when the width is bigger than 1.. |
| 04:03.58 | scanlime | ChipX86: obviously the answer is to rewrite it all yourself |
| 04:04.05 | scanlime | ChipX86: all you get is a pointer to video memory |
| 04:04.06 | ChipX86 | yep |
| 04:07.13 | ChipX86 | I just want to scream, "LEARN TO GIVE ACTUAL USEFUL INFORMATION!" |
| 04:07.31 | Cae | life sucks. I'm gonna go shower. |
| 04:13.43 | ChipX86 | purple_cow: your libgdiplus was 1.1.9, right? |
| 04:15.59 | purple_cow | 1.1.8 |
| 04:16.02 | ChipX86 | hmm |
| 04:16.09 | ChipX86 | 1.1.9 crashes for me in Graphics, but 1.1.8 doesn't |
| 04:16.16 | ChipX86 | either way, they broke pen dashes |
| 04:16.26 | ChipX86 | they exist, but they have dark grey inbetween the dashes |
| 04:16.59 | ChipX86 | oh, different one |
| 04:17.14 | kergoth | hmmmm |
| 04:17.30 | kergoth | bleh |
| 04:17.33 | purple_cow | ChipX86: yeah, and one i'm prepared to blame on gentoo |
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| 04:42.56 | file[laptop] | Death Becomes Her is on Space, most excellent |
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| 04:45.20 | ChipX86 | libview: Activity Percentile (last week): 97.75 |
| 04:45.22 | ChipX86 | there's no way that's accurate |
| 04:48.19 | scanlime | that calculation is based on a lot of overcomplicated bologna |
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| 05:00.40 | ChipX86 | http://imdb.com/title/tt0449088/\ |
| 05:00.42 | ChipX86 | er |
| 05:00.42 | ChipX86 | http://imdb.com/title/tt0449088/ |
| 05:07.44 | scanlime | huh. they're doing it just like Back to the Future 2 and 3.. as soon as they saw the original raked in cash, they plan for a whole trilogy |
| 05:09.18 | purple_cow | they've done that with a huge number of films |
| 05:09.28 | ChipX86 | Matrix |
| 05:09.35 | ChipX86 | at least Back to the Future was done well |
| 05:12.46 | CIA-5 | osiris-misc: 03chipx86 * r219 10taco/ (4 files in 2 dirs): |
| 05:12.46 | CIA-5 | osiris-misc: - Do the selection drawing mostly right. |
| 05:12.46 | CIA-5 | osiris-misc: - Clean up some code. |
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| 05:47.11 | ChipX86 | must figure out how to intelligently animate parts of an SVG |
| 05:57.01 | CIA-5 | osiris-misc: 03chipx86 * r220 10taco/ (4 files in 3 dirs): Draw a really cute little bowling ball instead of a black circle. For now, taco must be run from the top-level directory. |
| 05:59.14 | CIA-5 | osiris-misc: 03chipx86 * r221 10taco/images/bowlingball.png: Improve that just a bit. |
| 06:02.57 | scanlime | ChipX86: you should use Flash |
| 06:03.12 | ChipX86 | heh |
| 06:04.27 | ChipX86 | I like my little bowling ball |
| 06:05.33 | scanlime | hmm.. an animation system for SVG would be a neat project |
| 06:05.37 | ChipX86 | yeahg |
| 06:05.40 | ChipX86 | it would |
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| 06:24.52 | CIA-5 | osiris-misc: 03chipx86 * r222 10taco/images/thingies-design.svg: Add an electric socket image. |
| 06:32.25 | kergoth | ChipX86: 2.5 gold per spell to train now. |
| 06:32.29 | ChipX86 | ouch |
| 07:18.17 | scanlime | hmmm |
| 07:25.10 | purple_cow | mmmh |
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| 07:42.15 | purple_cow | "would you censor the venus de venus just because you can see her spjoors?" "oh, it's filthy! why not create a national endowment for strip clubs while you're at it?" "why not indeed!" |
| 07:48.49 | scanlime | http://zero.navi.cx/~micah/foo.png |
| 07:49.36 | scanlime | it's kinda pretty though |
| 07:50.00 | purple_cow | yeah |
| 07:50.04 | purple_cow | but what was it supposed to be? |
| 07:50.22 | scanlime | oh, I was just playing around |
| 07:51.12 | scanlime | Fun With Brownian Motion |
| 07:52.44 | purple_cow | you're just jealous! noone loves you because you're tiny and made of meat |
| 07:53.20 | scanlime | there must be something wrong with wasabi's CPU or motherboard.. this thing runs almost as slow there as it does on my uber-powerful Pentium III laptop |
| 07:57.43 | purple_cow | "this is the one place she can't hear us. everyone just pretend to shower!" "same as every day. got it" |
| 08:11.40 | scanlime | heh. does anyone else feel just a little annoyed that 9/11 turned into what it is today? It was a horrible disaster of course, that killed thousands of people, but it's really destroying people's sense of proportions. Will we be having ceremonies in 4 years to remember the hundred thousand or so that died in the tsunamis? Will we be remembering the two towers that were destroyed again, rather than the entire cities destroyed by natural |
| 08:11.40 | scanlime | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:12.18 | purple_cow | it does seem like an awful lot of fuss over less than 3000 people :P |
| 08:12.32 | scanlime | it's a propaganda machine now, which is really sad |
| 08:12.47 | purple_cow | given that a lot more people than that die every day of starvation :( |
| 08:12.53 | scanlime | I'm still waiting for the War on Weather :P |
| 08:13.54 | purple_cow | i do think that from now on i'm going to deliver a swift kick to the mouth to anyone who says we were attacked because "they hate that we're free" |
| 08:14.12 | scanlime | hahaha, good plan |
| 08:14.29 | scanlime | free to choose which hand our sex monitoring chip is implanted in! |
| 08:15.01 | purple_cow | be careful leela, he's a doctor. they're very poor |
| 08:17.13 | purple_cow | seriously |
| 08:17.55 | purple_cow | there an article with a short interview with the current NY governer |
| 08:18.08 | scanlime | uh oh |
| 08:18.13 | purple_cow | "We were attacked because we believe in freedom of speech, freedom of assembly, freedom to choose our own leaders, and freedom to worship as we see fit, which some find unacceptable and threatening." |
| 08:18.17 | purple_cow | AAARGH |
| 08:18.43 | scanlime | .... |
| 08:19.50 | purple_cow | i'm pretty sure that a few missing teeth is the only cure for spouting such a fundamental misunderstanding to a reporter |
| 08:19.56 | scanlime | nod |
| 08:20.19 | scanlime | or maybe some kind of shoe-related bowel obstruction |
| 08:20.44 | purple_cow | or that |
| 08:21.43 | purple_cow | well, you've come to the right place, because honest bender's orphanarium *means* discount orphans |
| 08:22.19 | purple_cow | what a great show |
| 08:22.24 | scanlime | :) |
| 08:22.37 | scanlime | not everone has a cabinet that spouts hot air from the top |
| 08:22.50 | purple_cow | hehe |
| 08:22.54 | purple_cow | it's like the cabinets in the DLC! :) |
| 08:23.07 | scanlime | yup, though I didn't have a really proper fan on me |
| 08:23.21 | scanlime | ended up using a small CPU fan that was almost the same size as my largest hole saw bit |
| 08:23.29 | scanlime | then running it on 5V to keep it from being quite so horribly loud |
| 08:23.34 | purple_cow | hehe |
| 08:23.55 | scanlime | eventually I'll get a 120mm fan or two and either find a gigantic hole saw or mount it on a bracket below the grid of vent holes I drilled saturday |
| 08:25.56 | gonkulator | yay for being up late |
| 08:28.15 | purple_cow | yay! halfway through my dvd encode |
| 08:28.37 | purple_cow | they really need to make the theora codec use some of those cpu extensions i've heard so much about |
| 08:28.41 | purple_cow | like.....mmx :P |
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| 10:18.32 | gonkulator | ARGH |
| 10:18.37 | gonkulator | stupid paypal scams |
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| 14:41.16 | kergoth | ugh |
| 14:41.20 | kergoth | forgot to set my alarm |
| 14:41.28 | kergoth | guess i'm working late tonight |
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| 15:26.17 | pagefault | mEEP |
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| 15:48.20 | pagefault | it's a fie |
| 15:48.22 | pagefault | err file too |
| 15:49.21 | file[muon] | quite |
| 15:49.34 | file[muon] | Aliant has been doing routing stuff during the wee early mornings these past few nights... |
| 15:54.56 | pagefault | yes |
| 15:54.58 | pagefault | same with bell |
| 15:59.31 | darth_mall | bleh |
| 16:00.11 | file[muon] | darth_mall: I wonder too. |
| 16:05.33 | pagefault | I wonder what vmware tools really too |
| 16:05.42 | pagefault | or maybe I didn't install the video driver |
| 16:05.42 | CIA-5 | asterlink: 03jcolp * 10gemini/gemini_utils.c: Add parse_cred_user for parsing the username out of a credential structure and header |
| 16:05.43 | pagefault | hmm |
| 16:05.53 | pagefault | I "installed" them but no video increases |
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| 16:07.29 | file[muon] | ah here is where it gets fun in this header ifle |
| 16:07.31 | file[muon] | er file |
| 16:08.37 | CIA-5 | asterlink: 03jcolp * 10gemini/gemini_utils.h: |
| 16:08.37 | CIA-5 | asterlink: Add function declaration to header but only make it visible if the Digest |
| 16:08.37 | CIA-5 | asterlink: header is also included |
| 16:08.52 | pagefault | pfft productivity |
| 16:09.00 | file[muon] | crazy eh? |
| 16:09.18 | pagefault | pfft |
| 16:09.22 | pagefault | I wonder what to get for lunch |
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| 16:09.29 | file[muon] | Swiss Chalet? |
| 16:09.37 | pagefault | we don't have that on campus |
| 16:09.41 | file[muon] | but they deliver |
| 16:09.51 | pagefault | deliver to room 2102 |
| 16:09.54 | pagefault | please |
| 16:10.40 | file[muon] | exactly! |
| 16:10.47 | darth_mall | slimspace: where are you running your proxy? |
| 16:10.54 | slimspace | golem |
| 16:11.16 | darth_mall | you might try rebuilding or a different version |
| 16:11.21 | darth_mall | dircproxy on zero runs fine |
| 16:12.31 | slimspace | hmm...running the same version on golem |
| 16:14.33 | CIA-5 | spacegrant: 03dkuester * r1696 10mck/PyMCK/Ground/System/Synchronizer.py: looks like we needed to import gzip as well |
| 16:19.25 | file[muon] | I think someone has my /usr/local/src setup on the NFS server |
| 16:20.28 | kergoth | hmm |
| 16:20.56 | pagefault | not me |
| 16:20.59 | file[laptop] | my 32-bit XP box just crashed |
| 16:21.03 | file[laptop] | bsod |
| 16:21.17 | pagefault | XPerience it |
| 16:21.24 | file[laptop] | the Windows partition won't boot |
| 16:21.25 | file[laptop] | lol |
| 16:22.02 | pagefault | ugh people on their cell phone in the lab |
| 16:22.03 | pagefault | tsk tsk |
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| 16:23.08 | file | I think the hard drive is toast |
| 16:23.14 | pagefault | mmm toast |
| 16:23.35 | file | Boot Failure: System Halted |
| 16:23.36 | file | yay |
| 16:23.48 | pagefault | well of course it can't boot |
| 16:23.49 | pagefault | the system is halted |
| 16:23.54 | file | very sad. |
| 16:24.03 | file | I wonder if I have a Windows XP Pro CD around here |
| 16:24.12 | pagefault | if you don't it's only a torrent away |
| 16:24.13 | pagefault | :) |
| 16:24.37 | file | hehe |
| 16:25.11 | pagefault | i'm confused by how many types of vista there will be |
| 16:52.21 | CIA-5 | asterlink: 03jcolp * 10gemini/gemini_authentication.h: Adjusted SQL query to only get the password, we don't need the entire info about the person |
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| 17:13.00 | pagefault | yay muffins |
| 17:14.23 | file | hail pagefault |
| 17:22.25 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03evan * r8895 10motion/turing-data-anova.xls: Turing data formatted for Jeff Luftig's ANOVA |
| 17:22.58 | kergoth | bleh |
| 17:24.10 | darth_mall | purple_cow: in your spreadsheet, which sequence were computer generated: the grey or the purple? |
| 17:25.41 | purple_cow | purple is computer |
| 17:26.27 | darth_mall | ok |
| 17:27.03 | scanlime | hello purple |
| 17:29.14 | ChipX86 | computer should be grey. We all know that computers only know grey |
| 17:29.50 | ChipX86 | bah |
| 17:29.53 | ChipX86 | Hillview gets Krispy Kremes |
| 17:30.07 | ChipX86 | although it appears it's a Dount and not a Donut |
| 17:30.17 | ChipX86 | I prefer donuts to dounts, so I don't mind |
| 17:30.22 | scanlime | just one? it's probably gone by now... |
| 17:30.31 | ChipX86 | looks that way |
| 17:30.48 | ChipX86 | "Hello everybody! I have placed one donut in the cafeteria. You must all fight to the death for it!" |
| 17:31.00 | kergoth | that should be on pay-per-view |
| 17:31.01 | darth_mall | gotta love data entry |
| 17:31.01 | scanlime | cue the klingon death battle music |
| 17:31.18 | ChipX86 | Fight for the Donut, now on Pay-Per-View. Check your listings. |
| 17:31.24 | kergoth | :D |
| 17:32.04 | darth_mall | after a year of running Fight for the Donut on pay-per-view, Spike would pick it up and turn it into a reality TV show |
| 17:32.10 | ChipX86 | scanlime: wtf is that latest message on fun-list? |
| 17:32.18 | ChipX86 | ohh |
| 17:32.29 | ChipX86 | hah wow |
| 17:32.38 | ChipX86 | google for failure :) |
| 17:32.53 | kergoth | haha |
| 17:33.13 | scanlime | heh, first and second entries are good |
| 17:33.18 | ChipX86 | yep |
| 17:33.58 | ChipX86 | oh good |
| 17:34.05 | ChipX86 | Flying Spaghetti Monster is on wikipedia now, and not just uncyclopedia |
| 17:34.38 | pagefault | yeah it's been there for a while |
| 17:34.42 | pagefault | I had to point a friend to that the other day |
| 17:35.06 | ChipX86 | I'm putting that on any form that dares ask my religion |
| 17:36.02 | ChipX86 | tsk tsk. Jocelyn's taking the day off, and yet replying to e-mails |
| 17:36.23 | purple_cow | ChipX86: kind of like how jedi is a noticible religion in the UK? :) |
| 17:36.29 | ChipX86 | yep |
| 17:38.39 | ChipX86 | mwahaha |
| 17:38.45 | ChipX86 | regis proposed a bad-attitude list |
| 17:38.54 | ChipX86 | as fun-list isn't as fun anymore |
| 17:39.07 | scanlime | no, honestly, we're not just reloading fun-list all morning... |
| 17:39.13 | ChipX86 | nope |
| 17:39.28 | ChipX86 | I'm getting actual work done and am about ready to submit it! |
| 17:40.07 | *** join/#tacobeam Cae (n=mschneid@Bloc-14.isc.tamu.edu) |
| 17:40.17 | ChipX86 | hey Cae |
| 17:40.22 | Cae | hey |
| 17:41.08 | scanlime | we should just drop support for USB in windows hosts |
| 17:41.18 | ChipX86 | cool |
| 17:41.20 | ChipX86 | let's do it |
| 17:41.31 | file | do I want to do memory caching... |
| 17:41.40 | ChipX86 | file: caching has never helped anybody |
| 17:41.58 | scanlime | file: caching killed my father, prepare to die! |
| 17:42.14 | file | :( |
| 17:42.24 | darth_mall | isn't there a way to insert multiple rows at once in gnumeric? |
| 17:43.12 | kergoth | grr |
| 17:43.19 | scanlime | M-x insert-multiple-rows |
| 17:43.32 | ChipX86 | darth_mall: you can write a plugin! |
| 17:43.34 | kergoth | i hate it when usb-storage/my reader gets all hokey and the scan never picks up the partitions on the card |
| 17:43.47 | kergoth | remove from bus, yank card, re-insert, wait for scan to complete, insert card. rinse, repeat |
| 17:43.49 | ChipX86 | plugins solve everything |
| 17:43.53 | ChipX86 | kergoth: :/ |
| 17:44.14 | scanlime | kergoth: tried rescanning partitions with hdparm? |
| 17:44.45 | kergoth | well, this time i have no sda, despite SCSI device sda: 125440 512-byte hdwr sectors (64 MB) |
| 17:44.51 | kergoth | but next time i have a device, i'll try that |
| 17:45.14 | scanlime | you got usb verbose debug and usb-storage verbose debug on? |
| 17:45.25 | kergoth | nope |
| 17:45.45 | scanlime | turn those on next time you get a chance.. it tells you pretty much nothing otherwise |
| 17:45.55 | kergoth | k |
| 17:46.03 | kergoth | woo! i have a partition |
| 17:46.11 | kergoth | didnt rescan, it just did it happily this time i inserted |
| 17:46.12 | kergoth | heh |
| 17:52.16 | ChipX86 | scanlime: have you done any work with GSX? |
| 17:53.41 | scanlime | no |
| 17:55.47 | ChipX86 | can't remember how to install and run the server without building a tarball and installing that.. I fear I may just have to do that |
| 17:56.24 | file | sweet I got authentication working |
| 17:58.32 | CIA-5 | asterlink: 03jcolp * 10gemini/ (gemini_calls.c gemini_utils.h gemini_utils.c): Move hash table generation to utilities |
| 18:03.36 | scanlime | hm. 4 meetings this week, so far |
| 18:07.02 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03evan * r8896 10motion/turing-data-anova.xls: That does it for the first question on the first sheet. |
| 18:25.20 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03evan * r8897 10motion/turing-data-anova.xls: Question 2 on the first sheet. |
| 18:25.20 | kergoth | wow, http://www.monkey.org/~provos/libevent/libevent-benchmark2.jpg is interesting |
| 18:25.23 | kergoth | scanlime: check that out |
| 18:25.49 | scanlime | nice |
| 18:26.19 | scanlime | doesn't really make poll() look too friendly :P |
| 18:26.25 | kergoth | hehe |
| 18:26.26 | kergoth | indeed |
| 18:26.53 | *** join/#tacobeam pagefault (n=pagefaul@66.199.241.90) |
| 18:33.43 | purple_cow | mmm ELP |
| 18:38.32 | ChipX86 | huh, dobey's contacting me for the first time in years |
| 18:39.08 | purple_cow | what for? |
| 18:39.31 | ChipX86 | dunno yet |
| 18:39.36 | ChipX86 | he pinged me |
| 18:40.20 | scanlime | http://i.cmpnet.com/nc/1618/graphics/1618f3d.gif |
| 18:40.41 | ChipX86 | ah, he wants to know where the drawing happens for the notification stuff |
| 18:41.07 | ChipX86 | haha |
| 18:41.08 | scanlime | it's amusing that virtual server only runs on windows server OSes, and that virtual PC doesn't run on server OSes |
| 18:41.11 | ChipX86 | wow, good job MS |
| 18:41.35 | scanlime | and this needs updating for ws5.5 :) |
| 18:41.38 | ChipX86 | VMware ESX Server 2.1 doesn't run on Linux, it claims, even though really it does |
| 18:41.49 | ChipX86 | except that it's essentially its own linux distro |
| 18:41.52 | scanlime | well, they mention that in the article |
| 18:41.57 | scanlime | but it's a pretty heavily modified linux AFAIK |
| 18:42.02 | ChipX86 | yeah, it is |
| 18:42.54 | scanlime | ooh, and we're the only one with USB.. go us! :P |
| 18:43.36 | ChipX86 | haha, really?! |
| 18:44.07 | ChipX86 | yeah, a lot of that does need updating for 5.5 |
| 18:44.10 | ChipX86 | just shows how cool we are |
| 18:44.28 | scanlime | still, lots of folks are emphasizing virtual PC's lower price |
| 18:44.30 | scanlime | ;) |
| 18:44.46 | ChipX86 | *grin* |
| 18:44.52 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03evan * r8898 10motion/turing-data-anova.xls: All 3 questions are formatted on the first sheet. |
| 18:45.06 | scanlime | hmm |
| 18:45.17 | scanlime | someone just stepped into my doorway, then grinned and slowly walked out when I looked over |
| 18:45.29 | ChipX86 | who? |
| 18:45.35 | scanlime | nobody I recognize |
| 18:45.42 | ChipX86 | hmm |
| 18:45.45 | ChipX86 | what did he look like? |
| 18:45.48 | scanlime | was dressed too formally to be a programmer :P |
| 18:45.51 | ChipX86 | ah |
| 18:46.00 | ChipX86 | one of them business folks |
| 18:46.03 | scanlime | prolly someone looking for my officemate |
| 18:46.09 | scanlime | who's on a month-long vacation |
| 18:46.15 | ChipX86 | fun |
| 18:47.13 | ChipX86 | woot! |
| 18:47.22 | ChipX86 | hurray for some U-bugs being fixed |
| 18:47.37 | scanlime | U-boat? |
| 18:47.43 | CIA-5 | smrt: 03jupiter * r12 10docs/requirements/requirements.tex: add a section on input devices |
| 18:48.01 | scanlime | u-boot |
| 18:48.05 | scanlime | mmm.. bootloaders... |
| 18:49.13 | purple_cow | U-Boat, U-Boat, why don't you act like a true-boat? Slipping around beneath the surface, don't you realize that makes us nervous?! |
| 18:50.49 | scanlime | :) |
| 18:50.58 | scanlime | flooo |
| 18:53.44 | CIA-5 | secure-testing: 03micah * r1938 10/data/DSA/list: new tdiary DSA |
| 18:53.50 | scanlime | gr |
| 18:53.58 | kergoth | heh |
| 18:54.16 | scanlime | gotta remember to fix that next time I'm in the ruleset editor |
| 18:55.18 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03evan * r8899 10motion/turing-data-anova.xls: Replace all the empty values with 9999. |
| 18:55.44 | ChipX86 | you should just inform him that he's not allowed to use the name micah |
| 18:55.49 | scanlime | ChipX86: good plan |
| 18:56.10 | darth_mall | because data entry is fun |
| 18:56.56 | scanlime | bah. Fixed some small issues with my other patch, and now I'm back to this silly windows driver problem |
| 18:57.13 | purple_cow | hmm, 14 minutes left on the encode |
| 18:57.18 | purple_cow | looks like thoggen gets a gold star |
| 18:57.27 | scanlime | cool |
| 18:57.59 | scanlime | you just need to recompile with -09 |
| 18:59.09 | scanlime | heh... #pragma |
| 18:59.13 | scanlime | how oldskool |
| 19:01.17 | ChipX86 | change 258580. I like that one. |
| 19:01.58 | scanlime | I'm only seeing up to 258571 here |
| 19:02.07 | ChipX86 | it's pending |
| 19:02.18 | scanlime | oh, pff |
| 19:02.19 | ChipX86 | p5 change just gave me it |
| 19:02.33 | scanlime | you just need to wait for change 333333 |
| 19:02.46 | ChipX86 | I *hate* updating files in public/ |
| 19:02.50 | ChipX86 | yeaha :) |
| 19:04.27 | scanlime | why can't windows just assign a device number to each USB device on a bus? |
| 19:04.30 | scanlime | why must it be this hard? |
| 19:04.43 | ChipX86 | it's windows? |
| 19:04.51 | ChipX86 | they like pain? |
| 19:05.09 | scanlime | well, it's all because of WDM |
| 19:05.25 | scanlime | WDM has some nice aspects, but it has the side-effect of making absolutely everything more complicated than it should be |
| 19:07.39 | Cae | is there some php function to remove "? |
| 19:08.24 | pagefault | yay for the half baked wireless network here |
| 19:08.42 | file | cool caching is working |
| 19:08.54 | ChipX86 | yay for cool caching |
| 19:09.38 | pagefault | you're so cool it's cached |
| 19:09.55 | CIA-5 | asterlink: 03jcolp * 10gemini/ (gemini_users.c gemini_users.h): |
| 19:09.55 | CIA-5 | asterlink: Add abstracted user interface (database+in-memory cache). If the database fails |
| 19:09.55 | CIA-5 | asterlink: it'll do failover to the cache, and if the database is up - it'll use the entry in memory |
| 19:09.55 | CIA-5 | asterlink: and expire it after (by default) 5 minutes. |
| 19:10.28 | CIA-5 | asterlink: 03jcolp * 10gemini/ (gemini_authentication.c gemini_authentication.h): Add newer authentication system that uses the users system |
| 19:10.50 | file | next is the contacts system |
| 19:12.00 | purple_cow | woo, thoggen finished without crashing |
| 19:12.04 | scanlime | I DONT want to search Windows Update for a gchub driver! |
| 19:12.05 | ChipX86 | ours or windows's? |
| 19:12.07 | ChipX86 | ah |
| 19:12.12 | ChipX86 | you sure? |
| 19:12.15 | ChipX86 | MS might provide a driver now |
| 19:12.22 | scanlime | ChipX86: I tried, they don't :( |
| 19:12.31 | ChipX86 | that's just silly! |
| 19:12.39 | scanlime | hrm |
| 19:12.49 | scanlime | I don't see the dead-end I thought I ran into Friday |
| 19:12.53 | scanlime | maybe this is actually almost working |
| 19:12.55 | ChipX86 | yay, I now have a VM named Fooble.()[]{}+$^\? |
| 19:13.03 | ChipX86 | with an appropriately named vmx file |
| 19:13.13 | scanlime | does it handle utf-8 filenames yet? |
| 19:13.35 | ChipX86 | sure, why not |
| 19:13.49 | ChipX86 | I have no idea |
| 19:14.42 | file | I need to figure out how to parse the contact... but I bet it's already in the sip message structure as a pointer |
| 19:15.04 | file | wow, I was right |
| 19:15.28 | ChipX86 | oh good |
| 19:15.33 | ChipX86 | I'm doing a lunch interview Thursday |
| 19:15.50 | ChipX86 | I'll have to learn how to pronounce Saqib Amjad |
| 19:15.55 | scanlime | cool :P |
| 19:16.02 | file | ChipX86: welcome to my world |
| 19:16.40 | ChipX86 | 8 hour interview. Owee. Poor guy |
| 19:16.57 | ChipX86 | I think mine was just over 6 hours |
| 19:16.59 | file | yay... David is sending me a box of office goodies |
| 19:17.52 | scanlime | linux UI person I take it? |
| 19:18.09 | ChipX86 | they don't say. Just UI |
| 19:18.19 | ChipX86 | there are windows people interviewing too |
| 19:18.22 | file | is vmware on a hiring spree or something? |
| 19:18.26 | ChipX86 | file: always |
| 19:18.27 | scanlime | if he's a windows nerd and knows kernel, send him my way :) |
| 19:18.30 | file | scary |
| 19:18.37 | ChipX86 | file: but we're *extremely* picky |
| 19:18.42 | file | ChipX86: I bet |
| 19:18.49 | ChipX86 | so we look at a ton of resumes, scrap most, bring in a bunch of people, and scrap most of them |
| 19:19.48 | scanlime | I'm going to be so sad if this does turn out to be another dead-end solution |
| 19:20.16 | ChipX86 | :( |
| 19:20.39 | purple_cow | time to go waste my life in class |
| 19:20.46 | ChipX86 | have fun |
| 19:21.21 | ChipX86 | I need to file a bug, but I know it's just going to be turned around and assigned to me :( |
| 19:27.27 | file | whoops wrong header type |
| 19:34.57 | file | SIP is so, so, fun |
| 19:35.21 | CIA-5 | asterlink: 03jcolp * 10gemini/ (gemini_utils.c gemini_utils.h): Add parse_int_contact to parse the contact out of a SIP message |
| 19:36.09 | ChipX86 | scanlime: isn't it great when users with no clue start suggesting things like "Re-install!" |
| 19:37.12 | kergoth | hrhr |
| 19:37.14 | kergoth | erm |
| 19:37.14 | kergoth | hehe |
| 19:38.14 | *** join/#tacobeam pagefault (n=pagefaul@66.199.241.90) |
| 19:39.10 | file | pagefault: meeptastic |
| 19:40.17 | ChipX86 | gahhhhhhh |
| 19:40.32 | ChipX86 | I just want to say, "I'm in the freaking snapshot manager source, stop suggesting things." |
| 19:41.26 | pagefault | meep meep |
| 19:46.38 | kergoth | hehe |
| 19:46.44 | kergoth | its funny resolving network issues on the lan at work |
| 19:46.54 | kergoth | since everyone here understands networking, it gets fixed in record time :P |
| 19:46.57 | kergoth | no shitty ass IT to deal with |
| 19:46.59 | ChipX86 | nice |
| 19:47.06 | ChipX86 | we're building around IT :) |
| 19:47.11 | kergoth | "this is broken." "oh yeah, it is. i'll fix that." "thanks." |
| 19:52.31 | ChipX86 | got 2 new rc1fix bugs. Both are now fixed :D Back to 0 |
| 19:52.42 | kergoth | nice |
| 19:56.01 | ChipX86 | gcc needs -Waffle support |
| 19:56.25 | kergoth | mm, waffles |
| 20:02.24 | file | wth... |
| 20:03.21 | file | I'm listening to the call center of my bank |
| 20:03.59 | file | I can hear them all talking in the back... |
| 20:05.01 | kergoth | heh |
| 20:12.24 | numist | everyone's decided that #devlounge is a lost cause? |
| 20:13.08 | kergoth | fraid so |
| 20:13.18 | kergoth | hehe |
| 20:13.23 | numist | it certainly doesnt get a lot of activity |
| 20:13.53 | darth_mall | hmm |
| 20:14.10 | numist | [ grim] [ nosnilmot] [ numist] [ purl] |
| 20:14.21 | numist | 4 users, ones a bot |
| 20:16.48 | Veight | hello |
| 20:16.56 | file | hey Veight! |
| 20:17.18 | Veight | hey file |
| 20:17.49 | file | waddup? |
| 20:17.56 | ChipX86 | time to make libsexy be very sexy |
| 20:18.08 | Veight | just got back frfom school and its raining and nothing to do :( |
| 20:18.09 | kergoth | morning Veight |
| 20:18.10 | Veight | er, from |
| 20:18.14 | kergoth | heh |
| 20:18.18 | kergoth | crappy, crappy day out today |
| 20:18.58 | Veight | kergoth: dont forget to bring me a mouse so wow isnt so boring |
| 20:19.45 | kergoth | heh |
| 20:20.05 | purple_cow | kergoth: also, don't forget to force Veight outside to get some exercise |
| 20:20.24 | file | he'll burn to death! |
| 20:20.25 | ChipX86 | purple_cow: do we really want Veight out on the streets, in public?! ;) |
| 20:20.34 | purple_cow | ChipX86: what's going on wrt libsexy? |
| 20:20.42 | purple_cow | ChipX86: better to acculturate him |
| 20:20.43 | ChipX86 | purple_cow: I just need to figure out why it's not all worky-like with vmware |
| 20:20.46 | ChipX86 | also, release |
| 20:20.47 | ChipX86 | oh |
| 20:20.57 | ChipX86 | and it'd be super if we somehow made enchant detectable at runtime |
| 20:21.06 | purple_cow | yeah |
| 20:21.23 | ChipX86 | right now, it's a compile-time thing. We can't add enchant to the dep list at vmware |
| 20:21.53 | purple_cow | relaytool? |
| 20:22.01 | ChipX86 | could do that |
| 20:22.03 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 20:22.15 | ChipX86 | relaytool is only needed when building the lib, right? |
| 20:23.04 | purple_cow | iirc what it does is generate a dummy file with all the symbols and does lazy-loading |
| 20:23.11 | purple_cow | including detection of existance |
| 20:23.34 | purple_cow | yep |
| 20:23.53 | ChipX86 | let's plan that for the next release then, after the release I'm going to do soon |
| 20:25.39 | Veight | purple_cow: ChipX86 is right it would be scary for me being in public |
| 20:25.49 | ChipX86 | uh oh |
| 20:25.52 | scanlime | mmm, sushi |
| 20:26.04 | ChipX86 | these places I'd use libsexy actually currently use libview's ViewWrapLabel |
| 20:26.06 | Veight | never had but i want to try it |
| 20:26.08 | kergoth | Veight: not as scary as it would be for the public |
| 20:26.10 | kergoth | Veight: :P |
| 20:26.10 | ChipX86 | er, WrapLabel |
| 20:26.14 | Veight | lol |
| 20:26.23 | ChipX86 | so either libview would need to depend on libsexy, or I'd have to integrate it somehow |
| 20:27.04 | purple_cow | port the wrap label to C and get it into gtk? ;) |
| 20:27.43 | ChipX86 | it might go in, not sure yet |
| 20:27.48 | ChipX86 | it's a simple widget |
| 20:28.07 | purple_cow | alternatively, port it to C and use it as the base class for UrlLabel |
| 20:28.15 | numist | nice, serious power outages in LA |
| 20:28.38 | ChipX86 | I don't want libsexy depending on libview, but I'm fine with libview depending on libsexy |
| 20:29.06 | numist | of course you are |
| 20:29.48 | ChipX86 | I could port SexyUrlLabel to view::UrlLabel |
| 20:30.34 | ChipX86 | of course, that's going from LGPL to MIT. I don't personally care, but I don't know if anyone else hacked that code or not |
| 20:31.11 | ChipX86 | good place |
| 20:31.15 | ChipX86 | team lunch? |
| 20:31.15 | purple_cow | hmm, relaytool only supports i386 and ppc for now... |
| 20:31.18 | scanlime | pretty good selection, and definitely the cheapest I've ever seen sushi that fresh |
| 20:31.35 | ChipX86 | now I'm considering sushi |
| 20:31.58 | scanlime | see, sushi is what happens when Dustin, Tam, and Perry ambush me for lunch and we can't decide where to go |
| 20:32.21 | numist | sushi tomo is a good place |
| 20:32.27 | ChipX86 | yep |
| 20:32.37 | scanlime | Their Super Oregon Roll is really tasty |
| 20:33.01 | scanlime | big hunk of salmon on the outside, avocado and what I think is crab on the inside |
| 20:33.12 | numist | nice |
| 20:33.15 | numist | Ill have to get that next time |
| 20:33.50 | scanlime | hmmmmmm |
| 20:33.58 | numist | remind me, eh? |
| 20:33.59 | purple_cow | aha |
| 20:34.04 | scanlime | numist: sure, eh! |
| 20:34.08 | numist | :) |
| 20:34.29 | purple_cow | # On architectures that relaytool does not support, the -l is passed through along |
| 20:34.30 | purple_cow | # with a couple of defines to provide libfoo_is_present and libfoo_symbol_is_present. |
| 20:34.32 | purple_cow | sounds decent |
| 20:34.40 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 20:34.53 | purple_cow | so we'd get runtime linking on x86 & ppc, and fall back on the current behavior if not |
| 20:34.55 | scanlime | numist: :) |
| 20:40.14 | CIA-5 | osiris-misc: 03chipx86 * r223 10libsexy/ (ChangeLog acinclude.m4): Add GTK_DOC_CHECK to acinclude.m4 so that we can call GTK_DOC_CHECK without configure erroring out on systems where gtk-doc-tools isn't installed. |
| 20:41.00 | ChipX86 | what's the rule with putting MIT code in an LGPL'd source? |
| 20:41.11 | ChipX86 | the code has to be dual-licensed? |
| 20:41.40 | scanlime | IANAL, but I'm pretty sure you can put MIT and BSD code into GPL/LGPL'ed code without any problem |
| 20:41.47 | ChipX86 | cool |
| 20:41.59 | scanlime | you're just adding a more restrictive license without violating any of the original license's terms |
| 20:42.08 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 20:43.21 | ChipX86 | uh oh |
| 20:43.28 | ChipX86 | I don't appear to have enchant_broker_list_dicts |
| 20:44.15 | ChipX86 | purple_cow: any ideas? :/ |
| 20:44.44 | ChipX86 | oh hey, we talked about this before I bet |
| 20:45.06 | ChipX86 | hmm |
| 20:45.14 | ChipX86 | it worries me that jbot's logging this channel |
| 20:45.18 | ChipX86 | and making it all public |
| 20:45.21 | numist | ..? |
| 20:45.26 | numist | why be worried? |
| 20:45.36 | ChipX86 | certain things I don't want to get out :) |
| 20:45.38 | scanlime | we just have to flood it with noise so the logs overflow |
| 20:45.43 | scanlime | jbot: RIO YETI RIO YETI |
| 20:46.01 | scanlime | or maybe it's already dead |
| 20:46.04 | numist | <republican>what do you have to hide? what are you doing that you have to be worried about? If it's legal, you have nothing to worry about :) </republican> |
| 20:46.20 | purple_cow | ChipX86: what version? |
| 20:46.33 | ChipX86 | numist: I'd like discussions about Jamie and about certain gaim people and such to not be public |
| 20:46.42 | ChipX86 | purple_cow: 1.1.4+cvs.2004.08.10 |
| 20:46.43 | ChipX86 | :( |
| 20:46.54 | kergoth | <hint>any lines that start with a space aren't logged by ibot/jbot/apt/purl/etc</hint> |
| 20:46.57 | kergoth | :P |
| 20:47.11 | ChipX86 | or we can just turn logging off for here! :) |
| 20:47.16 | purple_cow | ChipX86: any way you can upgrade? |
| 20:47.21 | kergoth | if you pester tim, yep |
| 20:47.22 | numist | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:47.37 | ChipX86 | purple_cow: I can, sure. I'm more worried about everybody else |
| 20:48.16 | scanlime | or we could get rid of jbot.. it hasn't really been working correctly lately |
| 20:48.24 | numist | /kick |
| 20:48.42 | purple_cow | ChipX86: could change the minimum version in configure.ac for now, and then do some conditional stuff once we use relaytool |
| 20:48.45 | scanlime | we should ban CIA too, 'cuz it might be listening |
| 20:48.52 | ChipX86 | purple_cow: yeah |
| 20:49.20 | numist | omg cia is a logger bot? kill it with fire! |
| 20:49.30 | kergoth | ~fishslap scanlime |
| 20:49.32 | jbot | ACTION slaps scanlime up side the head with a wet fish. |
| 20:49.33 | purple_cow | time for me to go |
| 20:49.38 | kergoth | looks fine to me :P |
| 20:49.38 | ChipX86 | scanlime: I don't mind things listening or people logging. It's the whole straight-to-web that concerns me slightly, just because of certain things we talk about in here |
| 20:49.47 | scanlime | nod |
| 20:50.11 | scanlime | heh. CIA logs lots of things... gigabytes of logs! |
| 20:50.21 | scanlime | but AFAIK what's said on IRC isn't among that :P |
| 20:50.59 | ChipX86 | purple_cow: 1.1.5 good enough? |
| 20:51.05 | ChipX86 | oh, bah |
| 20:51.07 | ChipX86 | now I get this: |
| 20:51.12 | ChipX86 | make[3]: Entering directory `/mnt/fishy/src/osiris-misc/trunk/libsexy/docs/reference' |
| 20:51.15 | ChipX86 | ../../gtk-doc.make:7: *** missing separator. Stop. |
| 20:53.13 | ChipX86 | GTK_DOC_USE_LIBTOOL gets set in the Makefiles correctly, but we're including a file, and that doesn't get transformed |
| 20:53.33 | scanlime | jbot: hello? |
| 20:53.35 | jbot | Howdy Bub |
| 20:53.41 | scanlime | jbot: RIO YETI |
| 20:53.48 | scanlime | *sigh* |
| 20:53.53 | kergoth | i think it just isnt responding to queries it has no factoids for |
| 20:53.57 | kergoth | rather than responding with a generic error |
| 20:54.18 | scanlime | jbot obviously hasn't been watching the right low-budget space western musicals |
| 20:55.14 | ChipX86 | grrr |
| 20:55.20 | ChipX86 | purple_cow: don't suppose you have any ideas? :/ |
| 20:55.59 | *** join/#tacobeam Cae (n=mschneid@Bloc-14.isc.tamu.edu) |
| 21:02.39 | scanlime | hmm |
| 21:02.56 | scanlime | meeting supposedly starting at 2:00, but it looks like Dan is still in a different meeting in the same room |
| 21:04.04 | ChipX86 | I guess I'm not even really stealing code in this case. The logic behind WrapLabel is fairly simple |
| 21:04.05 | darth_mall | the Dell XPS has to be one of the most hideous laptops I have ever seen |
| 21:04.58 | ChipX86 | darth_mall: but the commercials said it's stylish! |
| 21:05.04 | ChipX86 | why would they lie? |
| 21:05.14 | darth_mall | good point |
| 21:05.22 | kergoth | for the sheer joy of lying, silly |
| 21:05.30 | darth_mall | I take it back. the Dell XPS is the most sexy laptop I've ever seen |
| 21:05.57 | darth_mall | obviously weird chrome plating on the lid is the only choice for stylish laptop users |
| 21:21.03 | kergoth | my tooth hurts :( |
| 21:21.10 | kergoth | erm, gum does, or something |
| 21:21.15 | kergoth | whatever it is, it isnt pleasant |
| 21:28.23 | kergoth | damnit, expansys, i want my phone |
| 21:37.14 | scanlime | heh, team meetings here are great |
| 21:37.31 | ChipX86 | yep |
| 21:38.27 | ChipX86 | bah |
| 21:38.48 | ChipX86 | the monitor team is just a bit unhappy that I didn't run a change by them first |
| 21:39.56 | kergoth | http://linux-ip.net/html/nat-stateless.html .. weird |
| 21:40.06 | kergoth | i didnt know you could do nat without iptables.. even if it is stateless |
| 21:41.20 | CIA-5 | spacegrant: 03dkuester * r1697 10mck/PyMCK/Ground/GUI/MainWindow.py: the masses can stop their uproar now, the about box works again |
| 21:41.42 | kergoth | aw, no more uproar |
| 21:44.24 | ChipX86 | *grumble* |
| 21:46.35 | ChipX86 | gah |
| 21:46.43 | ChipX86 | every couple of months I stupidly re-connect my land line |
| 21:46.56 | ChipX86 | and then it rings, and it's always the police department wanting donations |
| 21:47.09 | ChipX86 | a few months ago I connected it and they called. A few months before, same thing |
| 21:47.24 | numist | ... why do you even have a land line? |
| 21:47.33 | ChipX86 | DSL and tivo |
| 21:47.34 | numist | and having a land line, why dont you have caller ID? |
| 21:47.40 | ChipX86 | crappy old phone :) |
| 21:48.29 | numist | ah well |
| 21:55.36 | scanlime | ahhh |
| 21:55.41 | scanlime | I can't believe I was bit by this |
| 21:56.01 | scanlime | if (foo->bar = bar && foo->blah == blah) {{ |
| 21:56.01 | scanlime | ... |
| 21:56.28 | kergoth | lol |
| 21:56.29 | kergoth | i hate that |
| 21:56.43 | kergoth | such a wonderful typo |
| 21:57.29 | scanlime | yes... that one typo was causing several odd symptoms |
| 21:58.40 | ChipX86 | "So, it looks like England are going to win some burned sticks of wood because, essentially, it rained a lot. According to the hype in the media, this is about as exciting as cricket gets, which says it all really." |
| 21:59.02 | kergoth | hehe |
| 21:59.15 | scanlime | ' return; |
| 21:59.24 | scanlime | grr.. mispaste |
| 21:59.44 | scanlime | can't get used to having to copy text after selecting it on my windows machine before I can paste onto my linux machine |
| 21:59.46 | ChipX86 | nooo, that was important code! |
| 21:59.47 | scanlime | '"Many workers were stranded outside their buildings, which occurred during |
| 21:59.47 | scanlime | during lunch" -- if buildings ever do just occur.' |
| 21:59.49 | ChipX86 | now it's in the open |
| 21:59.50 | scanlime | lunch and stalled elevators in the high-rise district." |
| 21:59.52 | scanlime | I thought most of those buildings were much too large to have "occurred |
| 21:59.58 | scanlime | ChipX86: yeah :( |
| 22:00.14 | ChipX86 | I love that quote :) |
| 22:00.16 | numist | scanlime: lol nice |
| 22:00.20 | ChipX86 | yay John Spragans |
| 22:00.25 | scanlime | yup |
| 22:00.25 | ChipX86 | er, Spragens |
| 22:00.32 | scanlime | yay fun-list to #tacobeam gateway |
| 22:00.41 | ChipX86 | yep |
| 22:00.45 | kergoth | yay |
| 22:00.52 | scanlime | mm |
| 22:00.52 | kergoth | every company needs a fun list. |
| 22:00.57 | scanlime | that lunch sushi was soo tasty |
| 22:01.07 | ChipX86 | #tacobeam on irc01 is very lonely |
| 22:01.11 | kergoth | whee, third glibc compile of the day |
| 22:01.12 | ChipX86 | sushi sounds good |
| 22:01.36 | scanlime | I like Sushi Tomo's selection and atmosphere better than Fuki actually |
| 22:01.59 | scanlime | Fuki is still a nice place to take a date or something, but for casual eat'in... |
| 22:02.04 | ChipX86 | nod |
| 22:02.18 | numist | yeah, we were really underdressed :) |
| 22:02.20 | scanlime | I think Tomo is also where I went with John and Tam when I was here for the interview |
| 22:02.35 | ChipX86 | tempted to get sushi now :/ |
| 22:02.43 | scanlime | the fishies call out to you! |
| 22:02.47 | ChipX86 | :( |
| 22:02.51 | ChipX86 | yay caterpillar roll |
| 22:02.55 | kergoth | i've never in my life eaten sushi |
| 22:02.56 | scanlime | the fishies remind you how tasty they are with rice and wasabi! |
| 22:02.58 | kergoth | should try it sometime |
| 22:02.59 | ChipX86 | crunchy caterpillars |
| 22:03.00 | scanlime | kergoth: @#!@$%!!!!! |
| 22:03.06 | ChipX86 | kergoth: bad kergoth! Bad! |
| 22:03.30 | ChipX86 | to quote my friend Amanda, it's like sex in your mouth |
| 22:03.39 | scanlime | it's like sex, except I'm having it!\ |
| 22:03.43 | kergoth | hehe |
| 22:03.44 | ChipX86 | :) |
| 22:04.37 | ChipX86 | hrm. Why isn't SexyUrlLabel working with the wrap label code? :/ |
| 22:05.02 | kergoth | hehe, i love how this company is so small, we have to turn each others offices into "conference rooms" for meetings |
| 22:05.12 | kergoth | "go get some more chairs, will you?" |
| 22:05.17 | ChipX86 | :) |
| 22:05.25 | ChipX86 | we often have our meetings in each others' offices |
| 22:05.30 | scanlime | nod |
| 22:05.34 | kergoth | its a good way to do it. less overhead |
| 22:05.39 | scanlime | we do have a small conference room up here, but it's always low on chairs |
| 22:05.46 | scanlime | and it's right next to our manager's office |
| 22:06.03 | kergoth | hmm, this is interesting |
| 22:06.12 | kergoth | yet another new mountain dew flavor (this shoudl be an acronym) |
| 22:06.18 | lurgy|work | ruuuuuuuuuuuuuuuum |
| 22:06.24 | scanlime | haha |
| 22:06.37 | kergoth | mountain dew pitch black II ("A blast of grape flavor with a SOUR BITE") |
| 22:07.04 | kergoth | people at work setting up an exchange server makes me sad |
| 22:07.27 | ChipX86 | quick, take the server and run! |
| 22:07.40 | kergoth | give me 20 minutes with postfix and i'd be done. they've been setting it up for like a week now. |
| 22:07.44 | kergoth | good plan |
| 22:07.51 | ChipX86 | just don't run it in a VM |
| 22:08.59 | purple_cow | uh oh |
| 22:09.01 | purple_cow | i have homework to do for tomorrow, but my paranoia book just came |
| 22:09.05 | numist | uh oh |
| 22:09.08 | ChipX86 | uh oh |
| 22:09.20 | kergoth | paranoia book? |
| 22:09.24 | scanlime | purple_cow: quit school! |
| 22:09.36 | scanlime | purple_cow: then eat sushi with ChipX86 and I |
| 22:10.02 | ChipX86 | :) |
| 22:10.19 | darth_mall | oooh Paranoia |
| 22:10.55 | kergoth | mm, gorillaz |
| 22:11.09 | numist | Id advise against quitting school.. having done it myself :) |
| 22:11.18 | kergoth | <njs> in algorithm I think of as the canonical way of doing 3-way, what this plays out as is two "insert line" hunks at the same location |
| 22:11.29 | kergoth | does anyone else read that _way_ wrong? or am i the only one who's midn is in the gutter |
| 22:11.43 | numist | yeah, only ChipX86's code is that dirrrty :) |
| 22:12.01 | scanlime | hey, it's njs |
| 22:12.17 | purple_cow | darth_mall: yeah. i think i'll end up typing up the player section |
| 22:12.25 | darth_mall | really? por que? |
| 22:12.26 | purple_cow | since knowledge of the vast majority of the book is treasonous :) |
| 22:12.30 | darth_mall | heh |
| 22:12.55 | darth_mall | if it's a game I like, I'll probably end up buying my own copy ^^ |
| 22:13.25 | ChipX86 | I'd play, but I need people to play with first |
| 22:13.41 | ChipX86 | empty trash bags, no less, so it takes longer to die |
| 22:13.43 | purple_cow | darth_mall: i imagine it's a game you'll like :) |
| 22:13.52 | purple_cow | since you seem to be hip to the whole killing-each-other thing |
| 22:15.26 | darth_mall | well, it *is* fun to murder your companions from time to time ^^ |
| 22:15.40 | kergoth | s/from time to time // |
| 22:16.07 | darth_mall | kergoth: sometimes it's fun. Like when they're saving your ass from a Beholder |
| 22:16.27 | darth_mall | in a situation like that, you wait for them to kill the Beholder *then* you murder them ^^ |
| 22:16.35 | kergoth | saw the gorillaz feel good inc music video for the first time the other day. good stuff. |
| 22:16.38 | kergoth | hehe, good point |
| 22:16.39 | darth_mall | assuming you don't need them to save you from anything else, that is |
| 22:17.22 | purple_cow | hehe |
| 22:17.33 | purple_cow | there's a section in this book on what RPG players should forget |
| 22:17.42 | ChipX86 | purple_cow: things use libsexy! There are things using it! |
| 22:17.52 | ChipX86 | beside xchat-gnome |
| 22:18.04 | purple_cow | ChipX86: yeah, i noticed that deskbar applet thread mentioned it |
| 22:18.12 | scanlime | purple_cow: are you playing it or GM'ing? |
| 22:18.21 | purple_cow | scanlime: i think i'm going to be GMing |
| 22:18.32 | scanlime | k. it sounds like you'd make a very treasonous player ;) |
| 22:18.42 | purple_cow | everyone is a treasonous player |
| 22:18.47 | purple_cow | that's just how it works :) |
| 22:18.53 | scanlime | :) |
| 22:18.58 | darth_mall | besides, meta-gaming is for chumps |
| 22:19.55 | darth_mall | hmm... I forget; in Java, are you allowed to have subclasses in the same file as the parent class, or is it really only one class per file? |
| 22:20.02 | ChipX86 | deskbar looks nifty |
| 22:20.08 | ChipX86 | I wonder if anybody else uses it |
| 22:20.22 | purple_cow | well, eventually the players will begin to learn some of the rules |
| 22:20.37 | purple_cow | but then it becomes hard, because if your character shows knowledge above their clearance level.... |
| 22:22.00 | purple_cow | "Many other RPGs have elaborate character creation, movement and combat systems. These games offer a well-designed character a broad range of control in almost any situation. In PARANOIA you have no control. The Gamemaster decides all details of movement, combat and the environment. Your character survives entirely at the pleasure of the GM, who shields you from other players so long as you do entertaining things. Entertain or die." |
| 22:22.17 | kergoth | hah |
| 22:22.46 | ChipX86 | wow |
| 22:24.08 | ChipX86 | I should go back on d-d-l |
| 22:24.08 | purple_cow | what a cool game :) |
| 22:24.30 | purple_cow | ChipX86: was it deskbar you were thinking of or is there yet more stuff using it? |
| 22:24.41 | ChipX86 | yeah, that |
| 22:24.44 | ChipX86 | but it seems... hmm wait |
| 22:24.50 | ChipX86 | crazy |
| 22:24.53 | ChipX86 | someone has it building for windows |
| 22:24.59 | kergoth | deskbar? |
| 22:25.56 | purple_cow | kergoth: someone implemented the "auric applet" idea |
| 22:25.56 | purple_cow | basically combining all the search-bar applets into one |
| 22:25.56 | kergoth | ah |
| 22:25.56 | ChipX86 | and it uses libsexy in a very sexy way |
| 22:25.56 | ChipX86 | and the e-mail is full of "sexy" this and "sexy" that |
| 22:25.59 | purple_cow | searches google, dictionaries, your filesystem, launchers, etc |
| 22:27.42 | purple_cow | and the binding on the book doesn't suck! :) |
| 22:28.16 | darth_mall | yay |
| 22:29.11 | scanlime | ChipX86: gnome canvas? :P |
| 22:29.15 | ChipX86 | nope |
| 22:29.17 | ChipX86 | bug #75949 |
| 22:29.44 | darth_mall | if he's implementing some of the functions needed to run the unit tests, and I'm implementing some of them, and then we combine them, neither of us will be able to test our code until he receives the work from the other... |
| 22:30.06 | scanlime | heh |
| 22:30.20 | ChipX86 | this is some of the worst code in the product |
| 22:30.21 | darth_mall | dunno why that didn't occur to me earlier |
| 22:30.26 | ChipX86 | and I had to hack on it for WS5 |
| 22:30.52 | ChipX86 | you don't even want to know what it was doing before I fixed parts of it up |
| 22:33.09 | kergoth | ugh |
| 22:33.16 | kergoth | the other main developer here doesnt understand source control worth a damn |
| 22:33.20 | Cae | back later..gonna go relieve some stress |
| 22:33.33 | kergoth | resulted in a change flowing back to my branch from trunk that removed the changes i was developing on the branch! |
| 22:33.42 | ChipX86 | kergoth: :/ |
| 22:33.56 | ChipX86 | you should print out the code to SVN, bind it together, and throw it at them |
| 22:34.11 | kergoth | i'm going to sit them down and explain some basics |
| 22:34.16 | kergoth | with perty diagrams ont eh whiteboard |
| 22:34.18 | scanlime | or wad it up between two bricks |
| 22:34.22 | darth_mall | just have to get used to typing ``ant'' instead of ``make'' |
| 22:34.35 | scanlime | darth_mall: try scons someday :) |
| 22:35.39 | kergoth | lets see.. fundamental concepts.. no data is lost. ever. period. it records changes as they occur, allows independent development branches, etc, but no history is ever lost, nor shoudl it be, for that would defeat the purpose |
| 22:35.57 | scanlime | :) |
| 22:35.59 | darth_mall | scanlime: isn't scons for python? |
| 22:36.08 | kergoth | basics of branching.. how to maintain a stable branch independent from active development without hosing one anothere.. |
| 22:36.08 | scanlime | darth_mall: it's written *in* python, it's for anything |
| 22:36.09 | darth_mall | or wait... what am I thinking of |
| 22:36.10 | purple_cow | darth_mall: scons is written in python, but it's for just about anything |
| 22:36.43 | darth_mall | I see |
| 22:37.43 | purple_cow | it's absolutely lovely |
| 22:37.59 | scanlime | damnit, I hate it when people walk into an empty channel and ask "anyone use $foo?" |
| 22:38.05 | kergoth | heh |
| 22:38.09 | ChipX86 | yep |
| 22:38.12 | scanlime | I'm always tempted to answer "No, dumbass, nobody ever uses $foo." |
| 22:38.17 | ChipX86 | :) |
| 22:38.21 | darth_mall | $foo? |
| 22:38.24 | numist | any project name |
| 22:38.28 | darth_mall | ah |
| 22:38.29 | numist | anyone use libsexy? |
| 22:38.35 | numist | no, dumbass, no one ever uses libsexy |
| 22:38.36 | kergoth | no, dumbass, nobody ever uses libsexy. |
| 22:38.36 | ChipX86 | I was getting a bit tired of one guy trying to help another guy earlier by recommending crap like, "Delete these files!" and "Re-install VMware!" |
| 22:38.38 | numist | :) |
| 22:38.40 | kergoth | :) |
| 22:38.44 | ChipX86 | it's like, no, look, I have the source code in front of me, shut up for a sec |
| 22:38.54 | scanlime | ChipX86: yeah, I read up to that and got retroactively pissed off |
| 22:39.28 | scanlime | ChipX86: hehe |
| 22:39.31 | ChipX86 | :) |
| 22:41.14 | purple_cow | ROFL |
| 22:41.19 | purple_cow | they worked WMDs into this new edition |
| 22:41.31 | numist | new edition of... |
| 22:41.32 | kergoth | methinks just drawing the development flow of the problem we just hit will help her see the way things _should_ be working |
| 22:41.34 | purple_cow | numist: paranoia |
| 22:41.54 | numist | ah |
| 22:41.59 | scanlime | hehe |
| 22:42.22 | ChipX86 | this code can break a man |
| 22:42.43 | scanlime | where is this? |
| 22:46.30 | darth_mall | guh |
| 22:46.31 | scanlime | ugg. I need chai |
| 22:46.39 | darth_mall | why do enums have to be so damned hard in Java |
| 22:46.42 | numist | carrie just had some... but she finished it, so I cant offer you any |
| 22:50.59 | scanlime | noooooo |
| 22:51.03 | scanlime | our cafeteria is out of chai :( |
| 22:51.07 | ChipX86 | :( |
| 22:51.08 | scanlime | hope they restock quickly again |
| 22:51.16 | darth_mall | I must be making this problem harder than it is |
| 22:51.23 | file | bleh why am I helping someone with trig proofs |
| 22:51.24 | scanlime | they've been good in the past about keeping pop tarts and chai in stock, just for me :) |
| 22:55.19 | *** join/#tacobeam pf-mobile (n=pagefaul@66.199.241.90) |
| 22:55.29 | kergoth | woot, found what i needed |
| 22:55.31 | kergoth | http://software.ericsink.com/scm/index.html looks quite good |
| 22:55.38 | pf-mobile | woot |
| 22:55.40 | darth_mall | man these comments that eclipse auto-genereates are annoying |
| 22:55.45 | kergoth | general source control howto, covers all the basic concepts |
| 22:56.03 | kergoth | tomorrow i'll diagram our repositories and show the problem that just occurred, and point them to the howto for further information |
| 22:57.15 | pf-mobile | yay for beer on a monday |
| 22:57.21 | pf-mobile | went out with some friends to the campus pub |
| 22:57.34 | kergoth | yay |
| 22:57.40 | kergoth | hmm, i have no beer at home, or scotch |
| 22:57.43 | kergoth | i should fix that |
| 22:57.43 | pf-mobile | didn't get too drunk though |
| 22:58.16 | kergoth | :( |
| 22:58.46 | scanlime | it's fun buying beer when you apparently look like you're about 17 :P |
| 22:59.08 | ChipX86 | Wall Street brokers in trouble for hiring dwarf for "unspecified entertainment," which apparently included tossing the dwarf like a frisbee at a bachelor party |
| 22:59.14 | ChipX86 | scanlime: :) |
| 22:59.20 | ChipX86 | yay for being carded |
| 22:59.40 | scanlime | not just that, but they look reeeeal closely at your card and then give you funny looks |
| 22:59.48 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 23:00.03 | scanlime | at the welcome party my apartment had a couple weeks ago, the hostess was really loud about the fact she couldn't believe I was 21... |
| 23:00.15 | scanlime | *sigh* I just wanted free beer and carrots |
| 23:00.16 | ChipX86 | haha |
| 23:01.54 | pf-mobile | yeah I find a little alcohol buzz going helps me code |
| 23:01.57 | pf-mobile | don't ask me why |
| 23:02.06 | ChipX86 | uh oh, pf-mobile is going to become raster |
| 23:02.13 | pf-mobile | haha who is rastder |
| 23:02.16 | pf-mobile | err raster |
| 23:02.21 | scanlime | heh |
| 23:02.23 | ChipX86 | oson he'l be talkign li tke this |
| 23:02.32 | scanlime | ChipX86: that's much easier to read than raster usually is |
| 23:02.36 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 23:02.37 | ChipX86 | I tried :( |
| 23:02.38 | purple_cow | ChipX86: hehehehe |
| 23:02.47 | pf-mobile | does this raster person work at vmware? |
| 23:03.02 | ChipX86 | Enlightenment guy |
| 23:03.04 | scanlime | didn't you get the memo? everyone works at vmware now |
| 23:03.07 | pf-mobile | oh |
| 23:03.08 | ChipX86 | cool guy, usually drunk, never easy to understand |
| 23:03.09 | scanlime | some of you just aren't getting paid |
| 23:03.10 | pf-mobile | maybe I will some day |
| 23:03.11 | numist | pf-mobile: qwerty or 10-key? |
| 23:03.19 | pf-mobile | that would be scary |
| 23:03.37 | ChipX86 | wtf |
| 23:03.40 | purple_cow | it's frightening how well he works when he's completely schnockered |
| 23:03.41 | ChipX86 | I have a favorites list still |
| 23:03.46 | ChipX86 | purple_cow: yep |
| 23:04.10 | pf-mobile | I need to buy new headphones |
| 23:04.12 | ChipX86 | scanlime: they've been talking about comics and games and flash videos all day on #vmware. Have to wonder if anybody's doing actual work :P |
| 23:04.21 | pf-mobile | i'm using ones that look like I got them out of the trash |
| 23:04.21 | pf-mobile | :/ |
| 23:04.26 | scanlime | sigh. it wouldn't make any sense to be able to find out what port a device is connected to, that must be why windows doesn't have an easy way to do it |
| 23:04.43 | scanlime | ChipX86: it's because we're out of chai |
| 23:04.49 | ChipX86 | ah. |
| 23:04.50 | ChipX86 | of course. |
| 23:04.51 | pf-mobile | does vmware have pub meetings? |
| 23:05.20 | scanlime | no, but we do have etc and tmp meetings |
| 23:05.27 | pf-mobile | oh wow |
| 23:05.33 | pf-mobile | that was really lame scanlime :) |
| 23:05.39 | scanlime | you deserved it |
| 23:06.05 | pf-mobile | hehe |
| 23:06.08 | pf-mobile | it was stilly worth it though |
| 23:06.22 | scanlime | no, *you're* stilly! |
| 23:06.29 | kergoth | "Corollary: Next time you're interviewing for a job, pretend that the power structure is reversed. The hiring manager is trying to figure out if there is any chance you are worthy of the job. Ignore that. Instead, spend your time trying to figure out if there is any chance that guy is worthy of being your manager." |
| 23:06.31 | kergoth | i like that |
| 23:06.38 | ChipX86 | pub meetings? |
| 23:06.55 | ChipX86 | meetings at a pub? |
| 23:07.06 | ChipX86 | we have beer bash |
| 23:07.07 | kergoth | sounds like a great idea |
| 23:08.40 | pf-mobile | oh wow |
| 23:08.44 | pf-mobile | I already want to work there |
| 23:09.25 | scanlime | you could apply.. I'm sure your knowledge of x86 internals would be really helpful |
| 23:09.38 | pf-mobile | w0t is x86 |
| 23:09.48 | pf-mobile | I only know msn and hotmail |
| 23:09.59 | pf-mobile | :) |
| 23:10.02 | ChipX86 | :P |
| 23:10.05 | scanlime | well, you could still write an emulator to run msn on hotmail :P |
| 23:10.10 | ChipX86 | haha |
| 23:10.21 | ChipX86 | I want to see SNES on our Guest OS list |
| 23:10.27 | pf-mobile | that would be funny |
| 23:10.45 | pf-mobile | I still say zsnes should be included on vmware tools |
| 23:10.49 | pf-mobile | it's essential if you ask me |
| 23:11.01 | scanlime | zsnes should be built in to vmware's scsi driver |
| 23:11.02 | kergoth | hm |
| 23:11.06 | kergoth | i need a locking cabinet at wrok |
| 23:11.11 | kergoth | i'd like to leave my mp3 player here some days |
| 23:13.14 | pf-mobile | this song is so good right now |
| 23:13.22 | scanlime | why does the windows ioctl take 8 parameters?? |
| 23:14.13 | ChipX86 | woops |
| 23:14.39 | ChipX86 | kikidonk suggested someone make a gentoo package for pysexy. I thought he meant make pysexy and said we already have it. He said he knows, he wrote it ;P |
| 23:15.27 | scanlime | oh look, an undocumented ioctl... |
| 23:15.33 | scanlime | IOCTL_USB_GET_NODE_CONNECTION_INFORMATION |
| 23:16.02 | ChipX86 | kergoth: haha |
| 23:16.40 | purple_cow | rofl |
| 23:17.06 | purple_cow | the lists of treasonous & insubordinate behavior are marked as not nearly exhaustive, but the list of meritorious conduct is exhaustive |
| 23:30.41 | ChipX86 | 3 bugs closed |
| 23:33.35 | scanlime | another dead end I think... |
| 23:33.55 | scanlime | WDM knows about trees of devices, but can't help me at all when I need to know more about the devices' interconnections |
| 23:34.33 | ChipX86 | :/ |
| 23:35.20 | ChipX86 | down to 7 bugs for Workstation 5.5, and I don't think half of those should even be targetted to that version |
| 23:40.24 | CIA-5 | asterlink: 03jcolp * 10gemini/ (gemini_authentication.c gemini_users.c gemini_users.h): Add initial SIP contacts support for registration ability |
| 23:50.58 | CIA-5 | asterlink: 03jcolp * 10gemini/ (gemini_database.c gemini_database.h): Add database caching in case it's down and we have critical queries |
