| 00:05.10 | pagefault | yay I got zsnes working better in vmware |
| 00:05.26 | file | yay better |
| 00:05.28 | pagefault | it's a great test case for "worst sound conditions" |
| 00:05.49 | file | I can't find anything good on to watch :\ |
| 00:06.07 | pagefault | it's too timing sensitive |
| 00:06.20 | pagefault | is what I mean |
| 00:13.09 | file | grub hates this computr :\ |
| 00:13.11 | file | er computer |
| 00:34.25 | nullpuppy | haha, scanlime did you see the "Shipping Damage" meter on the page for the tv stand? |
| 00:36.02 | scanlime | yeah :) |
| 00:38.22 | ChipX86 | UK Scientists to Create Embryo From Two Women |
| 00:38.24 | ChipX86 | welp, that's it |
| 00:38.27 | ChipX86 | we're not needed anymore |
| 00:41.46 | ChipX86 | scanlime: lilo says he thinks he got the server to ignore CIA as far as potential k-lines goes |
| 00:48.05 | *** join/#tacobeam pagefault (n=pagefaul@66.199.241.90) |
| 00:48.46 | nullpuppy | yay! friend thats been in iraq for nearly the last year will be back in just over a week |
| 00:49.35 | ChipX86 | nice :) |
| 00:50.33 | scanlime | ChipX86: yeah, he mentioned something in #cia about it being fixed |
| 00:50.43 | scanlime | woo... turns out my left speaker had a loose wire |
| 00:50.46 | scanlime | sounds a lot better in here now :) |
| 00:51.12 | file | this one hard drive I have is evil, pure evil |
| 00:51.53 | scanlime | file: welcome to the club |
| 00:52.09 | file | it has 4 different ways to jumper it for slave |
| 00:52.14 | file | and I have no idea which is right |
| 00:52.15 | scanlime | http://www.circuitcity.com/ssm/Bush-36-TV-Stand-VS8823601-/sem/rpsm/oid/125544/rpem/ccd/productDetail.do |
| 00:52.20 | scanlime | "Note: TV and components not included" |
| 00:52.44 | file | lol |
| 00:52.45 | scanlime | gee, i'm disappointed I can't get a big TV, DVD player, audio receiver, and a TV stand for $150 |
| 00:53.10 | nullpuppy | lol |
| 00:53.16 | nullpuppy | i would be too |
| 00:53.30 | scanlime | woo, these vent holes I cut seem to be working |
| 00:53.33 | ChipX86 | $150 is way too much for just a TV stand! They *should* throw in all that with it! |
| 00:53.38 | scanlime | ChipX86: I agree |
| 00:53.49 | nullpuppy | and it should *all* be made out of cheese |
| 00:53.59 | ChipX86 | of course |
| 00:54.02 | ChipX86 | people get hungry, afterall |
| 00:54.07 | nullpuppy | yup |
| 00:54.19 | ChipX86 | and speaking of hunger and things related to it, I need an SNES and Donkey Kong Country |
| 00:54.21 | scanlime | speaking of hungry, I should go buy bread crumbs |
| 00:54.25 | scanlime | :) |
| 00:54.31 | scanlime | and tetris attack! |
| 00:54.38 | scanlime | bestest SNES game ever |
| 00:54.41 | scanlime | and sooo addicting |
| 00:54.45 | ChipX86 | there are lots games I need |
| 00:54.46 | nullpuppy | hehe |
| 00:54.51 | nullpuppy | yeah, same here |
| 00:55.01 | nullpuppy | in fact.. theres a lot of just random stuff i need |
| 00:55.08 | ChipX86 | http://cgi.ebay.com/snes-nes-GRAB-BOX-filled-with-video-game-gear-systems_W0QQitemZ8216693210QQcategoryZ62054QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem |
| 00:55.11 | ChipX86 | huh. |
| 00:57.06 | file | stupid BIOS limitation |
| 00:59.23 | nullpuppy | ok, time to head out for d&d and stuff |
| 01:04.53 | ChipX86 | hmm, there are some not-so-bad deals on SNES systems out there |
| 01:05.27 | ChipX86 | I wish the gamecube had an adapter for SNES or NES games |
| 01:05.30 | ChipX86 | like it does with GBA games |
| 01:06.34 | kergoth | hah, the guy that played Joxer ("the mighty") on hercules and xena is on this odd new movie on scifi |
| 01:06.46 | kergoth | with .. hell.. whats his name.. the guy who was on army of darkness |
| 01:06.53 | kergoth | bruce cambell |
| 01:06.54 | kergoth | campbell |
| 01:06.57 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 01:07.08 | ChipX86 | http://cgi.ebay.com/SNES-lot-Super-Nintendo-System-Games-Game-console_W0QQitemZ8217418939QQcategoryZ62054QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem |
| 01:10.34 | ChipX86 | hmmmmm |
| 01:10.42 | ChipX86 | here's a japanese one with two Game Doctor SFs |
| 01:14.17 | ChipX86 | the SNES minis are cute. Might go for one of those |
| 01:17.37 | file | theoretically this install should work now, once it's installed |
| 01:20.17 | pagefault | oh great |
| 01:20.26 | pagefault | distro war in #zsnes |
| 01:20.34 | ChipX86 | uh oh |
| 01:20.43 | pagefault | "ubuntu is not good becuase you cannot do anything with it because it doesn't ship with development tools" |
| 01:20.53 | pagefault | apparently the concept of apt-get is beyond him |
| 01:21.13 | ChipX86 | hah. fool. |
| 01:21.26 | pagefault | he claims it's to "protect" the users |
| 01:21.32 | pagefault | so they don't let you do anything |
| 01:21.40 | ChipX86 | that's not the reason |
| 01:21.47 | pagefault | I told him that, but it's a lost cause |
| 01:26.31 | ChipX86 | why hasn't google bought ebay yet? |
| 01:26.43 | ChipX86 | it makes so much sense |
| 01:27.06 | pagefault | i'm sure it's on their todo list |
| 01:27.21 | ChipX86 | wouldn't surprise me |
| 01:27.30 | pagefault | or make their own auction service and shut ebay down |
| 01:27.37 | ChipX86 | nah |
| 01:27.39 | ChipX86 | that'd be silly |
| 01:27.43 | ChipX86 | if they buy ebay, they also get paypal |
| 01:27.52 | pagefault | that would be scary |
| 01:27.56 | pagefault | then google would technically be a bank |
| 01:27.59 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 01:28.32 | ChipX86 | search service, blanket wireless network provider, mail provider, text-based and vocal communications provider, auction provider, catalogs, and bank services |
| 01:28.53 | pagefault | get 10 googlefunbucks with every purchase of a google product |
| 01:28.59 | ChipX86 | you want to do anything on the internet, you go through google |
| 01:29.07 | ChipX86 | including transferring money |
| 01:29.10 | file | pagefault: Google is like President's Choice! slowly taking over everything... |
| 01:29.12 | ChipX86 | they'd be silly not to consider it |
| 01:29.42 | pagefault | google is sort of like a communist government that uses capitolism to get what it wants |
| 01:29.54 | ChipX86 | except everyone readily accepts them :) |
| 01:29.58 | pagefault | yeah |
| 01:30.02 | pagefault | that too |
| 01:30.02 | ChipX86 | they came from above! We had no choice! |
| 01:30.16 | pagefault | how long until the US becomes googleland |
| 01:30.50 | pagefault | you never know though |
| 01:30.58 | pagefault | one day google may just make a wrong move |
| 01:31.01 | pagefault | and it will be history |
| 01:31.11 | ChipX86 | maybe |
| 01:31.14 | ChipX86 | so far, they're making a lot of right moves |
| 01:31.56 | ChipX86 | if they keep hiring like they do, and if they end up hiring more people to scan all the books in the world, they could solve unemployment! :) |
| 01:32.08 | pagefault | hehe |
| 01:32.27 | file | I await my check from Google. |
| 01:32.31 | pagefault | they only hire interesting people though |
| 01:32.42 | ChipX86 | then who's scanning pages from the books and catalogs all day? |
| 01:33.04 | pagefault | their slave colonies on mars |
| 01:33.20 | file | I wonder how well their internet connection is there |
| 01:33.30 | pagefault | probably high latency, but fast in bursts |
| 01:34.16 | pagefault | I think they should make their own linux distro |
| 01:34.26 | ChipX86 | hmmmm |
| 01:34.32 | ChipX86 | their SMS service is quite neat and useful. |
| 01:34.58 | pagefault | yeah |
| 01:35.02 | pagefault | I wish it worked here |
| 01:35.06 | ChipX86 | shame I'll never remember all the features it has |
| 01:35.24 | ChipX86 | the price and directions stuff would be insanely useful |
| 01:35.30 | pagefault | it would be cooler if they had a toll free number you could phone like tellme |
| 01:35.36 | pagefault | and you could do google searches |
| 01:35.53 | file | ya know... we have voice recognition and voice synthesis at work... |
| 01:36.00 | file | and Google has an API... |
| 01:36.07 | ChipX86 | hmmmm |
| 01:36.20 | pagefault | that would be useful in arguments |
| 01:36.24 | ChipX86 | Blogger Mobile. |
| 01:36.32 | ChipX86 | wow. |
| 01:36.52 | pagefault | file, do it |
| 01:36.55 | pagefault | and hope to get bought out |
| 01:36.59 | ChipX86 | I have never thought to myself, "I'm away from a computer, but hey, wouldn't it be neat if I could blog frmo my cell phone" |
| 01:37.40 | pagefault | yes then we have people blogging while they drive |
| 01:37.42 | pagefault | how nice |
| 01:37.45 | ChipX86 | yep |
| 01:37.59 | file | bought out? bah |
| 01:38.39 | pagefault | you should finish that feedacoder.com thingy |
| 01:39.11 | ChipX86 | foodforgeeks? |
| 01:39.50 | pagefault | yeah |
| 01:39.56 | ChipX86 | yeah, probably someday |
| 01:40.38 | pagefault | there is so much money to be made on the internet |
| 01:40.42 | pagefault | just finding the right idea is hard |
| 01:40.50 | ChipX86 | ooh google local for phones |
| 01:41.15 | pagefault | it would be even cooler if it somehow knew were you were and told you by voice |
| 01:41.20 | file | nobody, NOBODY, reads my welcome email for Asterlink |
| 01:41.20 | pagefault | turn left in fork in road |
| 01:41.52 | pagefault | maybe you need to change the subject |
| 01:41.58 | pagefault | CLICK HERE FOR HOT STUFF |
| 01:42.02 | file | haha |
| 01:44.42 | hardwire | I'm clickin.. but I don't see crap |
| 01:46.32 | pagefault | click harder |
| 01:46.44 | pagefault | and if you squint you see something |
| 01:47.40 | scanlime | I think my vent holes are working =D |
| 01:52.41 | pagefault | I love that site |
| 01:53.32 | scanlime | thaw harder, little chickens |
| 01:53.55 | ChipX86 | scanlime: how long do you think until someone eventually tells me "VMware didn't make it open source! You're thinking about community source, and that's different than open source!" ? |
| 01:54.02 | scanlime | hehehe |
| 01:54.28 | ChipX86 | shame I can't tell him about the player |
| 01:54.42 | scanlime | yeah, I know |
| 01:54.56 | scanlime | uh.. do we have to kill everyone else in #tacobeam now? ;) |
| 01:55.00 | ChipX86 | haha |
| 01:55.13 | ChipX86 | um, I think it's okay? most people here are either on the beta list or have heard about it already.. or don't care |
| 01:55.23 | ChipX86 | but we could kill them just to be sure |
| 01:55.33 | file | nooo I don't want to die :( |
| 01:55.41 | file | what about putting me into a permanent coma? |
| 01:55.47 | ChipX86 | file: death costs less |
| 01:55.53 | file | bah |
| 01:57.00 | ChipX86 | well now that I can blog from my cell phone, I want someone to port bzflag to my phone as well |
| 01:57.20 | file | ChipX86: you get an A+ in geekness |
| 01:57.50 | file | ChipX86: which is redeemable for food at your local fast food places! |
| 02:00.37 | ChipX86 | scanlime: that picture of us all turned out so badly blurred |
| 02:00.50 | scanlime | nod |
| 02:03.08 | *** join/#tacobeam pfault (n=pagefaul@66.199.241.90) |
| 02:18.29 | file | clients are irritating |
| 02:20.28 | pagefault | yes |
| 02:20.42 | pagefault | I wish you could just take their money and never listen to them |
| 02:20.56 | file | exactly! |
| 02:21.00 | pagefault | oh wait the government already does that |
| 02:21.28 | file | so I found out how much money we process per month through the CC system... 400k |
| 02:23.03 | pagefault | thats a lot of cashola |
| 02:23.56 | file | yeah |
| 02:24.04 | file | I wondered how we manage to pay for everything/everyone |
| 02:25.35 | scanlime | woo, chicken is all breaded |
| 02:25.44 | file | mmm |
| 02:27.53 | pagefault | mmm |
| 02:27.56 | pagefault | but it's not on a bun |
| 02:31.22 | scanlime | it's also not veal |
| 02:32.47 | scanlime | ugh |
| 02:32.53 | scanlime | burning breadcrumbs giving off smoke.. |
| 02:33.11 | scanlime | think I'm going to have to change this oil before doing the rest of this chicke |
| 02:33.13 | scanlime | +n |
| 02:34.22 | pagefault | I need to get that WoW shirt |
| 02:34.32 | pagefault | "Your reading skill has increases by 1 point" |
| 02:35.01 | pagefault | haha |
| 02:35.21 | ChipX86 | :) |
| 02:35.29 | ChipX86 | scanlime: yay, users |
| 02:35.46 | scanlime | uhhuh |
| 02:42.01 | kergoth | lmao |
| 02:42.09 | kergoth | this new bruce campbell movie is so stupid, but funny |
| 02:42.12 | kergoth | and totally fucked up |
| 02:42.40 | ChipX86 | scanlime: watch this |
| 02:42.44 | ChipX86 | this is where he says he didn't change anything |
| 02:43.22 | ChipX86 | woops... I should exclude linux, linux-2.4.*, and linux-2.6.* from backups :) |
| 02:43.39 | kergoth | hehe |
| 02:44.42 | file | ChipX86: you're psychic |
| 02:44.43 | pagefault | I am pissed there is no family guy this weekend |
| 02:48.55 | scanlime | mmmm.. chicken in the oven |
| 02:49.03 | scanlime | with lots o' tomato sauce |
| 02:54.59 | file | scanlime: angry chicken? |
| 02:55.07 | scanlime | dunno yet |
| 03:14.52 | *** join/#tacobeam orchid_ (n=bzgirl@unaffiliated/orchid) |
| 03:15.32 | CIA-5 | osiris-misc: 03chipx86 * r212 10taco/ (7 files in 4 dirs): |
| 03:15.32 | CIA-5 | osiris-misc: - Change Position to Bounds in CanvasElement. |
| 03:15.32 | CIA-5 | osiris-misc: - Added a CanvasSelection. This will do super things! |
| 03:24.12 | ChipX86 | *sigh* I lost the navi-misc url again :P |
| 03:24.21 | ChipX86 | oh nm |
| 03:24.25 | ChipX86 | I'm just an idiot |
| 03:26.40 | kergoth | yay! |
| 03:26.44 | kergoth | mystery men is on scifi :D |
| 03:26.49 | ChipX86 | yep |
| 03:26.53 | kergoth | love this movie |
| 03:27.09 | kergoth | blue rajah, master of silverwear |
| 03:27.16 | scanlime | woo. |
| 03:27.21 | scanlime | homemade chicken parmesan: complete |
| 03:27.35 | file | yay |
| 03:27.44 | numist | scanlime: how would you recover deleted files off a vfat volume? |
| 03:28.00 | scanlime | chicken blood? |
| 03:28.20 | numist | dont have any handy... |
| 03:28.36 | numist | (I didnt do the deleting either...) |
| 03:28.38 | scanlime | there's undelete, if your voodoo pantry is understocked |
| 03:28.41 | ChipX86 | Era - Miseri Mani is a good song |
| 03:28.59 | numist | un.. delete..? |
| 03:29.06 | numist | sounds like something to have |
| 03:29.06 | ChipX86 | oohh |
| 03:29.07 | scanlime | it's a DOS program |
| 03:29.16 | ChipX86 | jrb's interested in getting parts of libview in gtk |
| 03:29.29 | numist | hmm |
| 03:29.33 | scanlime | mmm |
| 03:29.38 | scanlime | this is so moist and tender |
| 03:29.57 | file | scanlime: master cook! |
| 03:30.12 | scanlime | it isn't that hard to make, just kinda messy |
| 03:30.41 | scanlime | cooking chicken in a pool of tomato sauce with a crispy fried crust tends to do this :) |
| 03:31.25 | file | I'm hungry now :( |
| 03:31.38 | scanlime | come over, I have lots of leftovers |
| 03:31.44 | file | might take me awhile |
| 03:32.07 | scanlime | that's ok, it reheats pretty well |
| 03:32.16 | file | yay |
| 03:32.40 | ChipX86 | e |
| 03:33.16 | scanlime | hmm.. this would go really well with some Coca-Cola (tm) |
| 03:33.53 | ChipX86 | why is my OnButtonPressEvent being ignored... |
| 03:34.56 | ChipX86 | oh. |
| 03:34.56 | numist | man why are these things so hard to find |
| 03:36.10 | CIA-5 | secure-testing: 03micah * r1904 10/website/index.html: |
| 03:36.10 | CIA-5 | secure-testing: Added mirror offered on mailing list: |
| 03:36.10 | CIA-5 | secure-testing: mirror.debianforum.de |
| 03:36.25 | scanlime | I swear that wasn't me |
| 03:36.35 | pagefault | you know what I find bizarre |
| 03:36.40 | ChipX86 | you'll have to kill him |
| 03:36.41 | pagefault | google talk has no where to search for something |
| 03:38.33 | file | they should incorporate voice recognition and record all the verbal communications so you can search them |
| 03:38.47 | numist | scanlime: boo undelete is only for pre-NT kernels :/ |
| 03:39.22 | scanlime | so boot a pre-NT kernel :) |
| 03:39.35 | scanlime | if I were you I'd find a DOS 6.22 floppy |
| 03:40.20 | scanlime | mmm, that was tasty |
| 03:40.48 | pagefault | url? |
| 03:40.54 | scanlime | url? |
| 03:40.58 | pagefault | to recipe? |
| 03:41.08 | scanlime | ah.. I didn't exactly follow a recipe |
| 03:41.11 | pagefault | oh |
| 03:41.13 | scanlime | but it's pretty easy to make |
| 03:41.25 | file | does it involve nuclear weapons? |
| 03:41.28 | numist | yes |
| 03:42.15 | scanlime | wash and trim the chicken, cover with egg and bread crumbs, pan fry it a bit to cook the bread crumbs, then put it in a pan with the appropriate arrangement of tomato sauce and parmesan cheese |
| 03:42.16 | scanlime | bake for a while |
| 03:42.31 | pagefault | that sounds like chicken parmesan :P |
| 03:42.39 | scanlime | allrecipes.com has a few recipes if you want a starting point |
| 03:42.59 | file | it's chicken parmesan ala scanlime |
| 03:43.04 | scanlime | I also stole purple_cow's techniques of double-egging the chicken and cooking with tomato sauce on top of the cheese |
| 03:43.30 | pagefault | you should go an extra step and melt mozerella on top in the last 10 minutes of cooking |
| 03:43.45 | scanlime | oh yes... that would be tasty |
| 03:44.04 | scanlime | kind of a tomato-chicken-mozerrela-tomato-mozzerella layering |
| 03:44.38 | scanlime | I probably should have used more cheese this time |
| 03:45.01 | scanlime | also ended up slightly burning the crust on a couple of the pieces.. but I doubt it will be noticeable after baking with so much moisture |
| 03:45.17 | pagefault | I got an awesome potato and leak soup recipe off allrecipes.com |
| 03:45.32 | scanlime | I need to make a potato curry of some sort next time I cook |
| 03:46.09 | pagefault | I wish I could recreate the indian curry dishes you get at the restaurant |
| 03:46.13 | pagefault | every time I try it's just not the same |
| 03:46.26 | scanlime | it's tough... indian curries can get really complicated |
| 03:47.06 | pagefault | coconut milk with green curry in it with shrimp is nice |
| 03:47.15 | scanlime | mmm |
| 03:47.22 | scanlime | I love coconut-based curry |
| 03:48.23 | pagefault | yeah |
| 03:49.32 | CIA-5 | osiris-misc: 03chipx86 * r213 10taco/ (5 files in 3 dirs): Things can be selected! A lot of the code is ugly. It'll be made better, or so help me god, it won't. |
| 03:49.34 | pagefault | especially with tons of rice |
| 03:49.38 | pagefault | sticky rice |
| 03:49.39 | scanlime | yup |
| 03:49.50 | scanlime | gotta soak up the sauce |
| 03:50.00 | scanlime | I hate it when they don't give you enough sauce to really saturate your rice :) |
| 03:50.10 | pagefault | hehe yeah |
| 03:50.13 | pagefault | thats the best part |
| 03:50.16 | scanlime | yup |
| 03:50.23 | scanlime | I'd be happy with just the sauce and a couple veggies |
| 03:51.46 | pagefault | damn getting hungry now :) |
| 03:52.03 | scanlime | :) |
| 03:52.07 | scanlime | come on over! |
| 03:52.24 | pagefault | might be rather cold by the time I get there :) |
| 03:52.33 | numist | scanlime: on my way ;) |
| 03:52.34 | scanlime | yeah, that's what reheating is for |
| 03:52.39 | scanlime | numist: :) |
| 03:52.42 | scanlime | numist: where are you today? |
| 03:52.57 | numist | scanlime: currently in San Rafael |
| 03:53.04 | scanlime | ah |
| 03:53.10 | numist | :) |
| 03:53.15 | numist | just a hop, skip, and a jump |
| 03:55.00 | CIA-5 | osiris-misc: 03chipx86 * r214 10taco/ (ChangeLog src/widgets/Canvas.cs): Make the selection special. It's no longer in the list of things placed on the canvas that can be removed. |
| 04:01.01 | CIA-5 | secure-testing: 03micah * r1905 10/data/CAN/list: Updated kernel hole |
| 04:01.09 | ChipX86 | heh |
| 04:01.11 | pagefault | noggenfogger |
| 04:01.16 | pagefault | fun stuff |
| 04:04.30 | kergoth | you must be like the wolf pack, not like the six pack! |
| 04:04.34 | kergoth | so mysterious! |
| 04:06.14 | ChipX86 | I should compile gkrellmd for my terastation |
| 04:09.33 | kergoth | lol |
| 04:09.39 | kergoth | i love this movie so much, i need to buy it on dvd |
| 04:09.45 | pagefault | which movie? |
| 04:12.44 | CIA-5 | osiris-misc: 03chipx86 * r215 10taco/ (3 files in 2 dirs): Elements can now be dragged around! Not in real-time, though. That's next. |
| 04:13.39 | CIA-5 | osiris-misc: 03chipx86 * r216 10taco/src/widgets/CanvasSelection.cs: Tiny code cleanup. |
| 04:15.01 | kergoth | pagefault: mystery men |
| 04:15.08 | kergoth | yay, blame thrower |
| 04:16.38 | pagefault | ahh |
| 04:28.38 | scanlime | urg. my wireless died |
| 04:31.46 | scanlime | can't tell whether it's the card, the base station, or just interference |
| 04:31.48 | rioter | yay |
| 04:31.56 | rioter | dukkmass |
| 04:32.03 | rioter | eh sorry, yhn |
| 04:32.11 | scanlime | duck? |
| 04:32.11 | rioter | sorry, girlfriend |
| 04:32.16 | scanlime | QUACK! |
| 04:32.31 | rioter | yay |
| 04:32.37 | rioter | finally some attention |
| 04:32.38 | rioter | ! |
| 04:32.48 | rioter | alright i think thats a hint |
| 04:32.51 | rioter | ill see you later |
| 04:33.01 | kergoth | have fun |
| 04:36.42 | kergoth | "We've got a blind date with destiny.. and it looks like she's ordered the lobster." |
| 04:37.55 | scanlime | ooh look.. some of these Dead Like Me episodes are decent quality and 16:0 |
| 04:37.57 | scanlime | er, 16:9 |
| 04:38.11 | scanlime | hmm.. 16:0.. the ultimate in widescreen |
| 04:43.15 | kergoth | hehe |
| 04:56.00 | scanlime | haha |
| 04:56.22 | scanlime | "incense burner".. catholic priest just bought a bong |
| 04:57.17 | scanlime | "since when is it illegal to have a lawn sale on someone else's lawn?" |
| 05:27.37 | scanlime | ahh.. these are HDTV rips =D |
| 05:38.37 | scanlime | mmm.. fuzzy binary |
| 05:39.06 | scanlime | zak_away: it really is very fuzzy :) |
| 05:40.42 | file[laptop] | scanlime: your TV is just so very very cool |
| 05:45.30 | scanlime | mini-navi is blinking happily... |
| 05:46.00 | kergoth | mini-navi? |
| 05:46.47 | scanlime | http://zero.navi.cx/gallery/navi-usb/p8300004 |
| 05:46.58 | scanlime | remember that thing? |
| 05:47.58 | scanlime | hmm.. /me ponders a USB-based SAN :) |
| 05:48.58 | kergoth | ah, hehe. i should blow the dust off of mine |
| 05:49.03 | kergoth | fidn a use for it |
| 05:52.08 | scanlime | makes quite a nice server with the home-made hotswap box and a 512MB flash stick for the root fs |
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| 07:09.38 | purple_cow | hehehehe |
| 07:10.53 | scanlime | uh oh |
| 07:11.10 | scanlime | what did you end up cooking? |
| 07:11.12 | scanlime | and watching? |
| 07:11.31 | purple_cow | a couple things from some small indian cookbook jen had |
| 07:11.35 | purple_cow | and casino royale |
| 07:13.13 | scanlime | hah. peter sellers. Must see that... |
| 07:13.53 | purple_cow | it makes about half as much sense as the party |
| 07:14.01 | scanlime | purple_cow: oh, the chicken parmesan turned out great. I like your cheese layering and double-egg techniques |
| 07:15.03 | purple_cow | they're good techniques :) |
| 07:15.15 | scanlime | turned out soo tasty |
| 07:15.20 | scanlime | and I have much leftovers |
| 07:15.33 | scanlime | much easier to make than I remembered.. just a little messy |
| 07:15.44 | scanlime | also a great way to use up all the chicken I had in my freezer |
| 07:19.01 | CIA-5 | spacegrant: 03dowty * r1695 10/trunk/ (README.txt conf/ dav/ db/ format hooks/ locks/): |
| 07:19.01 | CIA-5 | spacegrant: Arrrgh. This is certainly not the first time that somebody created a new |
| 07:19.01 | CIA-5 | spacegrant: repository inside their working copy, then committed it. |
| 07:19.54 | purple_cow | ?! |
| 07:20.08 | scanlime | I have no idea how it keeps happening |
| 07:20.32 | scanlime | probably careless use of tortoisesvn combined with apathy |
| 07:22.09 | scanlime | oh. I checked it out to get a recent copy of Event, and I was annoyed at what I saw :) |
| 07:22.15 | purple_cow | heh |
| 07:25.01 | scanlime | hmm, Event is way overkill for this |
| 07:29.31 | purple_cow | Event is overkill for most everything |
| 07:29.35 | purple_cow | that's why it's awesome |
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| 07:38.02 | numist | ugg, cant bloody find how to tell windows to ignore part of my ram in boot.ini |
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| 08:16.05 | purple_cow | mmm |
| 08:16.08 | purple_cow | yay for saffron |
| 08:17.54 | purple_cow | scanlime: if you've got navi, you should at least have after the fox and a pink panther movie or two |
| 08:30.54 | CIA-5 | osiris-misc: 03chipx86 * r217 10taco/ (ChangeLog src/widgets/Canvas.cs): |
| 08:30.54 | CIA-5 | osiris-misc: - Lots of little dragging code changes. |
| 08:30.54 | CIA-5 | osiris-misc: - Set the appropriate cursor in various cases. |
| 08:30.54 | CIA-5 | osiris-misc: - Hide the selection when dragging, but not when just clicking. |
| 08:32.40 | purple_cow | hehe, what a great movie |
| 08:32.52 | purple_cow | alms for an ex-leper! |
| 08:35.58 | purple_cow | "He was a Roman. He was a centurion in the Roman army." "You mean you were raped?!" "Well, at first" |
| 08:38.20 | purple_cow | "it's a man's right to have babies if he wants them" |
| 08:57.49 | purple_cow | hehehehehe |
| 08:57.57 | purple_cow | michael palin's caesar character is so awesome |
| 08:59.08 | ChipX86 | it's really dumb that Gdk.Rectangle can't easily assign back and forth to a Drawing.Rectangle |
| 08:59.22 | purple_cow | yeah :( |
| 09:02.25 | purple_cow | hmm |
| 09:02.27 | purple_cow | taco is crashing for me |
| 09:02.33 | ChipX86 | no surprise. Where? |
| 09:03.14 | purple_cow | deep inside Gtk.DotNet.Graphics:FromDrawable |
| 09:03.20 | ChipX86 | yay. |
| 09:03.35 | ChipX86 | so far, taco sucks. |
| 09:03.50 | ChipX86 | also, I'm not in a very good mood, so I shouldn't talk much |
| 09:04.00 | purple_cow | what version of libgdiplus do you have? |
| 09:04.38 | ChipX86 | one sec |
| 09:05.05 | ChipX86 | 1.0.4 |
| 09:07.04 | purple_cow | hmm |
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| 09:41.36 | ChipX86 | grr |
| 09:41.44 | ChipX86 | think there's a bug in DrawRectangle |
| 09:49.16 | purple_cow | :( |
| 09:49.48 | ChipX86 | if I draw at, say, 10, 10 with a width and height of, say, 20, it'll actually draw, it seems, at 9, 9 |
| 09:49.54 | ChipX86 | and I can't figure out how to stop it from doing that |
| 09:49.59 | ChipX86 | drawline also does it |
| 09:50.10 | ChipX86 | fillrectangle and stuff work fine |
| 09:50.36 | ChipX86 | also, I can't get any alpha channel stuff working |
| 09:53.58 | ChipX86 | oh |
| 09:55.16 | ChipX86 | ok, so it must be set to Inset. Except I'm not convinced that gtk# supports this. |
| 09:56.25 | ChipX86 | no it should. |
| 09:57.11 | ChipX86 | meh. I'm going to bed. |
| 09:57.43 | purple_cow | god what a brilliant film that is |
| 13:03.30 | Sophie197 | yay, I finished my Halloween Mix, and it's awesome. |
| 13:03.39 | ToyKeeper | I can do everything except the bootloader with mkfs and rsync... |
| 13:03.47 | ToyKeeper | ... but that doesn't do the bootloader. |
| 13:04.07 | ToyKeeper | And the machine making the new drive is a different architecture than the one I'm duping. |
| 13:04.07 | ToyKeeper | Hmm. |
| 13:04.24 | Sophie197 | you're up early. For a programmer. |
| 13:06.12 | rioter | Real programmers never work 9 to 5. If any real programmers are around at 9 a.m., it's because they were up all night. |
| 13:07.16 | Sophie197 | well, your up late then. |
| 13:12.40 | ToyKeeper | Heh, that'll work. |
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| 14:58.45 | kergoth`zzz | morning |
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| 17:06.11 | scanlime | heh, my wireless Just Works this morning |
| 17:06.13 | scanlime | I bet something was jamming it last night |
| 17:06.17 | scanlime | there are way too many wireless networks in this building |
| 17:07.36 | kergoth | heh |
| 17:10.43 | scanlime | I should get the Red Dwarf DVDs at some point.. the copy I have is so low quality |
| 17:12.39 | scanlime | "Ah, so you're a waffle man!" |
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| 17:27.21 | darth_mall | bah |
| 17:27.21 | darth_mall | damned java |
| 17:27.25 | kergoth | heh |
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| 17:57.52 | pagefault | wee |
| 17:59.24 | kergoth | 51-60 bg (wsg) is fucking wild |
| 17:59.28 | pagefault | yep |
| 17:59.40 | kergoth | good to know alliance still sucks at this level |
| 17:59.42 | pagefault | I did some oldskool TM pvp this morning :) |
| 17:59.46 | kergoth | nice |
| 18:00.05 | pagefault | then it got lame when the alliance started camping our corpses |
| 18:00.12 | kergoth | :( |
| 18:00.19 | pagefault | they always do that |
| 18:00.23 | pagefault | they can't win without cheap tactics |
| 18:00.25 | kergoth | thats so cheap |
| 18:00.27 | kergoth | yeah |
| 18:00.44 | pagefault | it's funny it doesn't matter what server you are on the alliance is always very lame |
| 18:00.45 | kergoth | whats the next instance after mara & st? brd? |
| 18:00.49 | kergoth | lol |
| 18:01.08 | pagefault | probably BRD |
| 18:01.12 | kergoth | i think the whole paladin thing attracts a different crowd. kiddies |
| 18:01.23 | kergoth | "ooh, those look like the good guys!" |
| 18:01.29 | pagefault | BRD is like 53-57 |
| 18:01.33 | kergoth | mmk |
| 18:01.47 | pagefault | 53-57 I think anyway |
| 18:01.52 | pagefault | you need to go through BRD to get to MC |
| 18:02.45 | pagefault | my favourite one is probably UD strat |
| 18:03.14 | pagefault | it's like being in warcraft 3 :P |
| 18:03.18 | kergoth | hehe |
| 18:03.19 | kergoth | cool |
| 18:03.26 | kergoth | my current fav is probably mara |
| 18:03.35 | pagefault | yeah I hate the princess though |
| 18:03.37 | pagefault | and her fart attack |
| 18:03.40 | kergoth | lol |
| 18:03.41 | kergoth | yeah |
| 18:03.57 | kergoth | hunter nature res buff + shammy nature res totem = Good Thing(tm) |
| 18:04.04 | pagefault | yeah |
| 18:04.08 | pagefault | it helps to stay near the wall too |
| 18:22.36 | scanlime | * jetflash (n=jetflash@wwg-ip-nas-1-p309.telkom-ipnet.co.za) has joined #vmware |
| 18:22.36 | scanlime | <jetflash> anyone |
| 18:22.36 | scanlime | * jetflash (n=jetflash@wwg-ip-nas-1-p309.telkom-ipnet.co.za) has left #vmware ("Leaving") |
| 18:22.46 | scanlime | that was over the span of about.. 3 minutes |
| 18:24.36 | darth_mall | yay |
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| 18:56.48 | scanlime | wow... |
| 18:56.57 | scanlime | "The epicenter of the American dream is Los Angeles" |
| 18:57.02 | scanlime | Michael Palin is on crack |
| 18:58.17 | numist | ... |
| 18:58.26 | numist | has he ever *been* to los angeles? |
| 18:58.42 | lurgy | scanlime: i dunno, i'd find it hard to find fault with his statement |
| 18:58.49 | scanlime | hmm |
| 18:58.52 | lurgy | sadly |
| 18:58.53 | numist | I guess |
| 18:59.05 | scanlime | lurgy: true, but I'm not sure he understands how annoying LA is :P |
| 18:59.17 | lurgy | hehe |
| 18:59.23 | lurgy | the american dream could be annoying too :) |
| 18:59.30 | numist | its not only the epicenter of the american dream, but it is also one of the best examples of how bad people in this country can be to one another |
| 18:59.44 | scanlime | he's in a traffic helicopter flying over movie stars' houses |
| 18:59.54 | numist | thats hardly 'knowing' LA |
| 18:59.57 | scanlime | nod |
| 19:00.09 | lurgy | well, notice michael palin doesn't badmouth cities as he goes through them |
| 19:00.14 | scanlime | true |
| 19:00.19 | numist | true, thats bad for ones health |
| 19:00.20 | lurgy | he doesn't go through it to offer his opinion of the city |
| 19:00.31 | scanlime | yeah |
| 19:00.43 | scanlime | hah. now he's getting a tour of LA traffic accidents :P |
| 19:00.45 | lurgy | hehe |
| 19:01.17 | scanlime | yep |
| 19:01.51 | numist | well... in some cases (LA?) "wow this town really sucks" is an objective analysis :) |
| 19:01.57 | scanlime | hehe |
| 19:02.26 | scanlime | ooh pretty.. he's driving along the coast. Last time I watched this, that wasn't somewhere I've ever driven :) |
| 19:02.43 | scanlime | and he's in some kind of old convertible |
| 19:03.13 | lurgy | hehe :) |
| 19:03.18 | scanlime | he just described San Francisco as 'north european'... |
| 19:03.31 | numist | ... |
| 19:03.38 | numist | actually, thats not a bad description |
| 19:04.37 | lurgy | yeah, montreal is kinda like that too |
| 19:04.47 | lurgy | seattle reminded me of lausanne somewhat |
| 19:08.35 | numist | http://images.themaxx.com/mirror.php/offensive/images/picpile/Repost%20From%20LONG%20AGO.jpg <-- puahahahhaha |
| 19:10.34 | scanlime | hah |
| 19:11.19 | scanlime | haha.. now mikey's in Seattle, and he visited Boeing |
| 19:13.34 | scanlime | haha |
| 19:13.45 | scanlime | "I once sang a song about lumberjacks, and now I'm going to pay for it" |
| 19:18.14 | kergoth | my grandpa has a bad blood infection |
| 19:18.27 | kergoth | they're putting him back on the do-not-reseccutate(sp) list |
| 19:18.32 | kergoth | i should drop by and see him before he's gone |
| 19:26.44 | scanlime | =( |
| 19:26.55 | numist | :/ |
| 19:34.29 | scanlime | Who is the fox? I am the fox! |
| 19:34.37 | file[laptop] | scanlime: are you sure? |
| 19:35.58 | scanlime | aha |
| 19:36.03 | scanlime | I have Return of the Pink Panther |
| 20:00.45 | ChipX86 | wow I slept way too long. |
| 20:01.04 | file[laptop] | silly Chip |
| 20:03.33 | ChipX86 | hah, Windows Vista Ultimate Edition |
| 20:04.25 | ChipX86 | oh it's 9/11 |
| 20:06.04 | file[laptop] | oh it is |
| 20:15.55 | pagefault | yummy |
| 20:16.01 | pagefault | indian chicken korma |
| 20:16.17 | ChipX86 | mmm |
| 20:16.47 | pagefault | frozen dinner but it's still really good |
| 20:16.53 | pagefault | and easy :) |
| 20:18.37 | pagefault | meep meep |
| 20:18.50 | ChipX86 | Servo888 is on my VMware support blacklist. |
| 20:19.24 | pagefault | oh man |
| 20:19.26 | pagefault | this is so good |
| 20:19.45 | pagefault | the sauce is just so good |
| 20:20.16 | pagefault | the indians have truly mastered the art of spice |
| 20:20.22 | ChipX86 | yep |
| 20:22.03 | pagefault | damn I wish I had more of that |
| 20:22.28 | pagefault | I think a good meal is almost as satisfying as good sex :) |
| 20:24.30 | scanlime | funcoland got bought out :() |
| 20:24.33 | scanlime | s/)// |
| 20:24.35 | ChipX86 | funcoland? |
| 20:24.43 | pagefault | by EB right? |
| 20:24.58 | scanlime | gamestop |
| 20:25.03 | pagefault | oh |
| 20:25.04 | ChipX86 | oh |
| 20:25.09 | pagefault | I thought they basically owned them to begin with |
| 20:25.17 | scanlime | no... |
| 20:25.26 | scanlime | funcoland's been around for a long time |
| 20:25.41 | scanlime | I remember ordering from them by mail, from their little flyer |
| 20:26.24 | scanlime | and now they're out of SNESes :( |
| 20:26.36 | pagefault | :( |
| 20:26.41 | ChipX86 | :( |
| 20:27.13 | scanlime | ah well. I've got one at home that just needs some.. uh.. reassembly |
| 20:27.19 | scanlime | a lot of reassembly |
| 20:27.26 | scanlime | maybe involving a new case |
| 20:29.23 | scanlime | mmm |
| 20:29.28 | scanlime | chicken parmesan and coffee |
| 20:29.58 | CIA-5 | osiris-misc: 03chipx86 * r218 10taco/ (7 files in 4 dirs): |
| 20:29.58 | CIA-5 | osiris-misc: - The selection follows the target element when the bounds change. |
| 20:29.58 | CIA-5 | osiris-misc: - We now redraw only what needs to be redrawn, instead of the entire visible area. |
| 20:29.58 | CIA-5 | osiris-misc: - The selection is now 1 pixel in further than it sounds like it should have to be. It seems that when drawing a rectangle at x, y, it would actually draw at x - 1, y - 1, so this is a work-around until I find out why. |
| 20:30.36 | numist | taco! yay! |
| 20:31.42 | scanlime | ew |
| 20:31.55 | scanlime | there's a GC component video cable on ebay, going for more than lik-sang is charging for it |
| 20:31.58 | ChipX86 | who wants to write a panel applet that lets you type in a song and have it pop open a window with the lyrics? |
| 20:32.32 | numist | I'd do it, but I havent used gnome in a long time |
| 20:35.11 | ChipX86 | this is such good music |
| 20:41.37 | scanlime | wow.. the PS3 is going to support 1080p? I've never seen a television that supports 1080p |
| 20:41.56 | pagefault | yeah but probably without any FSAA or features turned off |
| 20:42.11 | pagefault | I don't see it being able to push that many pixels per second with those sepcs |
| 20:42.13 | pagefault | err specs |
| 20:42.38 | pagefault | i'm guessing most games will be 720p |
| 20:42.42 | pagefault | and some 1080i |
| 20:46.58 | pagefault | :) |
| 20:47.16 | pagefault | DVDs look pretty bad after you watch a HD broadcast |
| 20:47.32 | scanlime | hmm.. so I can get component video from the GC, but the best I've seen for DC or N64 is s-video |
| 20:47.38 | scanlime | I know the DC can do progressive scan |
| 20:47.41 | scanlime | I have a VGA box for it |
| 20:47.45 | pagefault | interesting |
| 20:47.46 | scanlime | but that doesn't help me much on a TV |
| 20:47.46 | pagefault | I didn't know that |
| 20:49.25 | numist | scanlime: Im looking into licensing for our MOS and probes so maybe you can jibble with them and get your tempmons going |
| 20:51.08 | numist | actually, we probably cant get you MOS code, but certainly probe code so you can write probes for your tempmons :) |
| 20:52.09 | numist | you might have to wait until the POSIX MOS is finished, Jeff's in the process of writing it |
| 20:52.18 | scanlime | mmm, pillows |
| 21:01.44 | *** topic/#tacobeam by purple_cow -> MUFFINS |
| 21:05.50 | ChipX86 | it makes me sad that f-spot doesn't use System.Drawing |
| 21:06.41 | purple_cow | what would it use it for? |
| 21:07.20 | ChipX86 | I don't know, I just wanted an example of a working use of DrawRectangle :) |
| 21:07.30 | ChipX86 | I was hoping f-spot would use it for some canvasy stuff |
| 21:09.01 | numist | scanlime: well, the n64 doesnt really have enough output to justify more than svideo.. matter of fact, Im betting svideo is overkill |
| 21:09.26 | scanlime | interlacing is my mortal enemy |
| 21:09.32 | numist | aye |
| 21:10.00 | scanlime | have you ever tried an N64 emulator? It's just disgustingly cool seeing N64 games running full-speed at super high resolutions |
| 21:10.17 | ChipX86 | I should try that |
| 21:10.41 | scanlime | mupen64 mostly works for me, but on Super Smash at least the sound skips like crazy |
| 21:10.53 | scanlime | can't tell whether it's a game compatibility problem or if it doesn't like my sound drivers |
| 21:11.14 | pagefault | too bad there really isn't a real n64 emulator out there |
| 21:11.15 | pagefault | they all use HLE |
| 21:11.18 | numist | but its not n64 hardware :P |
| 21:11.19 | scanlime | uh no |
| 21:11.28 | scanlime | pagefault: lots of them now don't use HLE |
| 21:11.34 | pagefault | really? |
| 21:11.45 | scanlime | yes. HLE was necessary back when 600MHz was speedy.. |
| 21:11.56 | scanlime | but now it's usually optional |
| 21:11.56 | pagefault | i've really only used pj64 |
| 21:12.12 | scanlime | pj64 is HLE? |
| 21:12.16 | pagefault | yep |
| 21:12.26 | pagefault | very hack at that |
| 21:12.31 | pagefault | the source is not pretty |
| 21:12.48 | pagefault | lots of special cases |
| 21:13.31 | scanlime | nod |
| 21:13.48 | scanlime | mupen64 has several emulation cores... for the CPU, and for the RCP |
| 21:14.17 | scanlime | by default it uses binary translation for the CPU, and what looks like a low-level emulation of the RCP |
| 21:14.17 | pagefault | yeah that one looks promising |
| 21:14.31 | pagefault | a lot of people use HLE since it's the easiest to do with the N64 |
| 21:14.38 | scanlime | nod |
| 21:15.18 | pagefault | modern consoles let you get away with a lot in terms of bad timing of the internals :) |
| 21:15.45 | scanlime | yeah.. it's not like they're going to start drawing polygons during a horizontal sync interrupt :P |
| 21:16.08 | pagefault | hehe |
| 21:16.25 | pagefault | a lot of the games are coded way better too |
| 21:16.30 | ChipX86 | they should all still work like that. That would make game programming fun. |
| 21:16.35 | scanlime | :) |
| 21:16.36 | pagefault | EWJ2 is probably the worst SNES game ever made |
| 21:16.38 | ChipX86 | 3D engines that have to be timed just right |
| 21:16.49 | ChipX86 | EWJ2? |
| 21:16.53 | scanlime | ChipX86: pff, you obviously use the wrong 3D engines ;) |
| 21:16.54 | pagefault | they put in bogus opcodes in the sound code for timing, so they rely on the timing of those to sync the sound |
| 21:17.02 | scanlime | pagefault: oh wow |
| 21:17.07 | numist | whoa |
| 21:17.17 | ChipX86 | pagefault: ick |
| 21:17.31 | pagefault | mainly why no SNES emulator will play it right with sound :) |
| 21:18.03 | numist | is that your goal, pagefault, to get znes to play it :) |
| 21:18.20 | pagefault | yeah, that will happen when someone breaks into Sony and gets proper SPC700 docs |
| 21:18.30 | numist | aww |
| 21:18.39 | ChipX86 | pagefault: better get the necessary gear |
| 21:18.55 | pagefault | it's running a lot better than it used to but it still has a lot of work to do |
| 21:19.23 | pagefault | it's also hard when you have 3 documents from independant people |
| 21:19.25 | pagefault | nintendo |
| 21:19.35 | pagefault | and then sony, and they all give you a different clock rate for the SPC |
| 21:19.41 | numist | haha |
| 21:19.55 | ChipX86 | well obviously you should get the average of the clock rates and use that |
| 21:19.57 | scanlime | pagefault: got an oscilloscope and a real SNES? :P |
| 21:20.07 | numist | I like scanlime's idea |
| 21:20.40 | pagefault | well thats half the problem, if we had the real clock rate, there are certain conditions when it can be different we are finding out |
| 21:20.52 | numist | weird |
| 21:20.53 | pagefault | it's an evil chip |
| 21:20.59 | numist | that is an evil chip |
| 21:21.00 | scanlime | so get out a logic analyzer.. |
| 21:21.02 | numist | bad chippy |
| 21:21.04 | scanlime | what package is the SPC700 in? |
| 21:22.06 | pagefault | I have no idea |
| 21:22.48 | pagefault | http://www.snesmusic.org/files/spc700.html |
| 21:22.49 | pagefault | screenshot |
| 21:23.15 | purple_cow | ...screenshot? |
| 21:23.20 | pagefault | well pic I mean |
| 21:23.26 | pagefault | of the SNES daughterboard |
| 21:24.29 | ChipX86 | purple_cow: everything's a screenshot now |
| 21:24.37 | ChipX86 | cameras take screenshots of the real world |
| 21:24.48 | numist | screenshot is a base class, like a widget ;) |
| 21:24.51 | ChipX86 | yep |
| 21:25.19 | scanlime | ok, so a QFP package.. test clips for those aren't cheap, but they aren't too uncommon |
| 21:25.39 | scanlime | or you could take the approach I used with the N64 controllers and solder a whole mess of 0.1" headers onto the board |
| 21:25.49 | numist | :o |
| 21:26.01 | ChipX86 | http://lists.ximian.com/pipermail/gtk-sharp-list/2005-February/005396.html |
| 21:26.04 | ChipX86 | wonder if that made it in.. |
| 21:26.44 | scanlime | http://zero.navi.cx/gallery/cube64/hack_session_4 |
| 21:27.16 | scanlime | no pics of the logic anaylzer session, but that's a N64 controller board hooked up to a homemade serial adaptor, running a test suite for the CRC algorithm :) |
| 21:27.30 | ChipX86 | bah. doesn't look like it |
| 21:27.54 | ChipX86 | ooh the new mono site is nice |
| 21:28.06 | purple_cow | yep :) |
| 21:28.07 | pagefault | oh well |
| 21:28.14 | scanlime | :) |
| 21:28.24 | ChipX86 | the doc browser no worky though |
| 21:28.31 | ChipX86 | the treeview part of it |
| 21:28.35 | numist | nice breadboard |
| 21:28.43 | pagefault | the EWJ2 game is probably a good thing too |
| 21:28.48 | pagefault | because we can use it to do exact timing on the chip |
| 21:28.55 | pagefault | because we know how long each of those opcodes are supposed to take |
| 21:28.58 | scanlime | pagefault: you need to get zsnes and a real SNES set up to run the same ROM in lockstep, with some hardware flagging all output differences between the two |
| 21:29.22 | numist | :) |
| 21:29.26 | pagefault | haha |
| 21:29.31 | pagefault | that would be nice |
| 21:29.38 | pagefault | or even better a SNES development box |
| 21:29.41 | pagefault | it would do all that for me |
| 21:29.54 | numist | well where would you find one of those? |
| 21:30.00 | pagefault | on ebayb |
| 21:30.05 | pagefault | err ebay |
| 21:30.09 | numist | heh |
| 21:30.18 | pagefault | but good luck getting one, the collectors hoard it before you can even get a resonable bid in |
| 21:30.25 | ChipX86 | huh, I wasn't aware of the using Foo = Bar; in C# |
| 21:30.55 | numist | pagefault: damn |
| 21:31.00 | numist | I dont see any on ebay anyway |
| 21:31.07 | pagefault | yeah they don't come up very often |
| 21:31.11 | numist | :( |
| 21:31.13 | pagefault | but the collectors have everything we need |
| 21:31.16 | pagefault | but they refuse to co-operate |
| 21:31.26 | pagefault | they think it will devalue their "collection" |
| 21:31.29 | purple_cow | ChipX86: ? |
| 21:32.03 | ChipX86 | purple_cow: you can do, say, using SD = System.Drawing; and then do SD.Foo instead of System.Drawing.Foo |
| 21:32.03 | numist | scanlime: http://cgi.ebay.com/SN-systems-rare-development-Nintendo-64-N64-dev-cart_W0QQitemZ8217514458QQcategoryZ3580QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem |
| 21:32.13 | purple_cow | ChipX86: hmm, cool |
| 21:32.15 | numist | scanlime: maybe similar functionality to the shark I gave you? |
| 21:32.38 | pagefault | whats that I wonder |
| 21:32.39 | pagefault | flash cart? |
| 21:32.55 | numist | maybe, but it also has a port for another car |
| 21:32.56 | numist | t |
| 21:33.25 | scanlime | yeah.. could be like an uber-gameshark, that can run games from flash or patch an existing cartridge with some code in flash |
| 21:33.39 | scanlime | I imagine they might want to do that to reduce download times when making small changes? |
| 21:33.43 | scanlime | or it could be a debugger |
| 21:34.30 | ChipX86 | System.Drawing + Gtk# == suck |
| 21:34.51 | pagefault | because it's not sexy |
| 21:35.06 | ChipX86 | I can't do any alpha-transparency stuff |
| 21:35.26 | ChipX86 | trying to draw to a System.Drawing.Bitmap instead, but then getting that back into something I can draw on a GdkWindow looks somewhat messy |
| 21:37.11 | purple_cow | ChipX86: sounds almost more useful to just use cairo directly at that point :P |
| 21:37.27 | ChipX86 | yeah, really |
| 21:37.32 | ChipX86 | tempted to |
| 21:42.16 | numist | problem is, on the topic of dev kits.. its illegal to own one unless you are a licensed game development company |
| 21:42.29 | ChipX86 | who cares |
| 21:42.39 | purple_cow | numist: bullshit :P |
| 21:42.54 | ChipX86 | "illegal" |
| 21:43.03 | purple_cow | if you buy a used one, you have done absolutely nothing wrong |
| 21:43.06 | ChipX86 | just like burning a CD to your computer for listening there is illegal |
| 21:43.36 | purple_cow | the person that sold it to you might have broken a contractual obligation, but even that's not illegal, it's just that they can be sued |
| 21:43.45 | numist | no, just like buying a film reel from a movie theatre is illegal, I believe theres licensing there that requires them to be held on to |
| 21:43.56 | ChipX86 | oh, official dev kits |
| 21:43.58 | numist | ok, it puts them on dangerous footing |
| 21:44.18 | purple_cow | numist: there is no "illegality" about it |
| 21:44.25 | purple_cow | it's all about contract obligations |
| 21:44.26 | numist | actually, purple_cow, the dev studios are really careful about such things.. if you buy one, you know youve bought stolen property :) |
| 21:44.39 | numist | someone stole if from a developer and sold it to you |
| 21:45.00 | numist | and posession of stolen property is a crime :) |
| 21:45.09 | ChipX86 | since when?! |
| 21:45.30 | purple_cow | ChipX86: it's like a class 3 misdimeanor :P |
| 21:45.31 | numist | got me expelled from a HS... then again I was on thin ice already |
| 21:45.36 | purple_cow | aka slap-on-the-wrist |
| 21:45.37 | ChipX86 | pfft |
| 21:45.40 | numist | they were just looking for a reason |
| 21:46.18 | purple_cow | i think in general, the only punishment you'll get for it (especially if you didn't *know* it was stolen) is that it could be confiscated |
| 21:46.25 | numist | yep |
| 21:46.36 | numist | so at the very least, you are fined the product you bought |
| 21:47.33 | purple_cow | well, if they prosecute the person you bought it from, you'll get your money back |
| 21:47.57 | numist | if you help them |
| 21:48.15 | numist | but, for any offense Id still be up for deportation on any conviction |
| 21:48.24 | numist | so... try to stay out of trouble these days |
| 21:48.27 | purple_cow | but i think if you buy a dev kit from someone, you're on pretty solid legal ground |
| 21:49.00 | purple_cow | since you have no way of knowing the terms of the contract they signed |
| 21:49.26 | numist | well, you could argue that |
| 21:49.29 | numist | I couldnt |
| 21:49.29 | purple_cow | and i think for something like a SNES or N64, nintendo wouldn't care one way or another who has the dev kits now |
| 21:49.58 | purple_cow | since they're not making money off those consoles anymore |
| 21:49.59 | ChipX86 | I've heard of them going after fake NESes not all that long ago |
| 21:50.31 | ChipX86 | they care at least a bit it seems |
| 21:51.07 | numist | well, they did remake the NES in a cuter package fairly recently, didnt they |
| 21:51.08 | numist | ? |
| 21:51.14 | ChipX86 | a while back, yeah |
| 21:51.18 | ChipX86 | you can't use game genie with it :( |
| 21:51.26 | numist | didnt see them selling new carts for it though... |
| 21:51.28 | numist | aww |
| 21:51.41 | ChipX86 | it's the same thing, except it doesn't use the spring-loaded cart, so that whole problem goes away |
| 21:51.59 | ChipX86 | I just ripped out my spring loaders, stuck the cartridge in, and put a shoe on top. The games that used to be all flashy or blue screened just worked fine |
| 21:54.16 | ChipX86 | lovely. I moved to using a Bitmap completely, but it didn't solve a damn thing with the alpha-transparency |
| 21:54.55 | ChipX86 | heh |
| 21:55.00 | ChipX86 | does he know you work there? |
| 21:55.03 | scanlime | no |
| 21:55.05 | ChipX86 | :) |
| 21:55.23 | scanlime | though I do seem to know suspiciously much about our USB support for someone that doesn't... :P |
| 21:55.35 | ChipX86 | heh, yeah :) |
| 21:56.01 | ChipX86 | ok, what's the deal with mono's System.Drawing and alpha layers. It seems completely broken. |
| 21:56.31 | numist | vmware has usb support? |
| 21:56.51 | ChipX86 | of course |
| 21:57.05 | numist | :) |
| 21:57.07 | ChipX86 | oh |
| 21:57.11 | ChipX86 | you knew that. |
| 21:58.04 | ChipX86 | mmm that'd be nice |
| 21:58.54 | scanlime | numist: USB is what I work on there :P |
| 21:59.49 | pagefault | what is usb |
| 22:00.32 | numist | :) |
| 22:00.43 | scanlime | hehe |
| 22:00.45 | numist | I think its how I used to get to school |
| 22:00.51 | numist | the unified school bus |
| 22:00.53 | scanlime | pagefault: it's like MIDI right, but for mice too |
| 22:01.01 | pagefault | wow nice |
| 22:01.04 | pagefault | I need some usb ringtones |
| 22:01.07 | numist | scanlime: nice |
| 22:03.12 | ChipX86 | this is all so broken |
| 22:04.54 | ChipX86 | hmmm |
| 22:05.01 | ChipX86 | new libgdiplus uses cairo 1.0 instead of 0.3 |
| 22:08.17 | ChipX86 | I wonder how painful it'll be to package the new mono and everything else for hoary |
| 22:10.39 | ChipX86 | damn you hoary-backports |
| 22:10.45 | ChipX86 | is it really too hard to put up source packages?! |
| 22:12.15 | purple_cow | ? |
| 22:13.32 | ChipX86 | they have binary packages in hoary-backports but no source packages. You can't apt-get source a package |
| 22:14.05 | ChipX86 | hmm this may just be the mirror i'm using |
| 22:17.18 | ChipX86 | much better |
| 22:17.28 | ChipX86 | lots of new packages. My repository was apparently stale |
| 22:17.32 | ChipX86 | and mono 1.1.8 |
| 22:18.47 | ChipX86 | tempted to switch to breezy. I wonder how broken it is |
| 22:24.49 | scanlime | "On the interesting side it they way the N64 controllers connect to the console: a 3 wire connector? The transmission protocol that the n64 controllers use is nothing short of the most complex designs I've seen. While the Nintendo Brass say it's for 'extended capabilities', we know the truth -- to prevent 3rd parties from making competing controllers without directly licencing the technology. And it's mostly worked, because the protoco |
| 22:24.49 | scanlime | l is insanity itself, and trying to figure it out without a manual is near suicide." |
| 22:24.53 | scanlime | hah |
| 22:25.15 | ChipX86 | hah |
| 22:26.04 | purple_cow | welp, if thoggen actually succeeds in encoding this dvd, i think i'll be converted |
| 22:26.19 | scanlime | I reverse engineered it in a couple weekends.. I'm sure a company that was trying to make money off it could handle the same task |
| 22:26.47 | file[laptop] | scanlime: nobody is as crazy as you! |
| 22:31.30 | purple_cow | speaking of crazy |
| 22:31.35 | purple_cow | how goes that new media center? :) |
| 22:31.49 | numist | yeah |
| 22:32.04 | ChipX86 | *sigh* this isn't worth it. I'm just wasting my time. bbl |
| 22:32.44 | numist | bye :/ |
| 22:34.36 | scanlime | purple_cow: wrote a little more code, but still pondering design issues |
| 22:45.23 | purple_cow | oh wow |
| 22:45.26 | purple_cow | bruce r0x0rz |
| 22:45.54 | purple_cow | i emailed him asking for clarification on what the "conceptual diagram" is supposed to be, and he made an example for our project |
| 22:49.04 | scanlime | I need a big whiteboard |
| 22:54.56 | *** join/#tacobeam ChipX86 (n=chipx86@galago/ChipX86) |
| 22:57.20 | pagefault | vmware runs much better in linux |
| 22:57.28 | pagefault | probably due to windows sucking |
| 23:00.23 | scanlime | heh.. yeah |
| 23:00.41 | scanlime | well.. I/O performance under windows might be better |
| 23:00.45 | pagefault | dunno it's just this same vm, I am compiling in it goes way faster when I run it under vmware linux :) |
| 23:00.50 | scanlime | but I know video and USB tend to be worse |
| 23:14.54 | scanlime | hmmm |
| 23:15.04 | scanlime | some of these ripped futuramas we have look better than the DVDs |
| 23:15.08 | scanlime | they're already deinterlaced :) |
| 23:29.40 | purple_cow | hmmmm |
| 23:29.45 | purple_cow | so far, thoggen seems to be doing really well |
| 23:30.09 | kergoth | woot, sold the epic item i found for 450 gold |
| 23:41.06 | pagefault | haha wow |
| 23:43.15 | kergoth | epic mount is what, 1k? |
| 23:47.56 | scanlime | and the fifth reason whales kill is for the sheer fun of it! |
| 23:48.17 | purple_cow | :) |
| 23:51.36 | kergoth | good reason |
| 23:55.19 | scanlime | Everyone, to the fire door! |
| 23:55.20 | scanlime | It's on fire! |
| 23:55.36 | pagefault | hmm |
| 23:55.39 | pagefault | DoD source is preloading |
| 23:56.24 | scanlime | department of defense? |
| 23:56.33 | pagefault | day of defeat :) |
| 23:59.54 | scanlime | I've never seen a supernova blow up, but if it's anything like my old Chevy nova it'll light up the night sky! |
