| 00:05.43 | scanlime | these USB hubs keep changing :( |
| 00:06.13 | kergoth | hmm |
| 00:06.22 | scanlime | potato! |
| 00:06.39 | kergoth | but thats not a pizza |
| 00:07.26 | scanlime | it can be |
| 00:07.46 | scanlime | why does bank software have to be so broken? The Target I bought that cabinet at shows up as "CUPERTINO CUPERTINO US" on my statement |
| 00:08.32 | laodamas | Cupertino, the adjective! |
| 00:08.40 | scanlime | yup |
| 00:09.33 | laodamas | Cupertino Cupertino Cupertino'ed us |
| 00:09.49 | scanlime | I should cupertino apple upside the head with my ibook |
| 00:12.40 | scanlime | ok.. I think I just hit another dead-end in this driver |
| 00:12.41 | scanlime | blah. |
| 00:12.55 | scanlime | time to spend a few minutes at the beer bash then pick up my long-awaited coffee table, methinks |
| 00:13.27 | file[laptop] | go coffee table! |
| 01:01.07 | kergoth | you might be descending into evil if... "You ever created an undead legion out of a bus load of girl scouts because you thought it would be funny." |
| 01:07.36 | purple_cow | kergoth: that would be really funny :) |
| 01:13.00 | purple_cow | wow |
| 01:13.06 | purple_cow | they're making a real version of casino royale? |
| 01:18.35 | purple_cow | "should it be given a christian burial? exactly how anatomical is a toupee?" "it can only be regarded as a hairloom" |
| 01:19.13 | purple_cow | hurray for david niven |
| 01:20.30 | CIA-5 | asterlink: 03jcolp * 10gemini/ (gemini_utils.c gemini_utils.h): Add parse_callid function |
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| 01:24.36 | pagefault | brb |
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| 01:25.08 | pagefault | wee |
| 01:25.12 | file[muon] | hail pagefault |
| 01:25.13 | pagefault | I ordered a burger from swiss chalet |
| 01:25.16 | pagefault | the bacon cheese one |
| 01:25.31 | CIA-5 | asterlink: 03jcolp * 10gemini/ (8 files): Update everything to use parse_callid |
| 01:25.32 | file[muon] | ah yes |
| 01:25.40 | pagefault | I recall you saying it was good, so I decided to get it |
| 01:26.45 | file[muon] | I love how easy it is to get the call structure in gemini |
| 01:27.10 | file[muon] | so, what's the eta? |
| 01:27.54 | pagefault | 30 minutes |
| 01:28.17 | file[muon] | nifty |
| 01:28.28 | pagefault | I just got home and I was too tired to make anything |
| 01:30.56 | file[muon] | that's a good enough reason! |
| 01:31.01 | pagefault | what exactly is muon anyway? |
| 01:31.15 | file[muon] | my 32-bit workstation |
| 01:31.19 | pagefault | ahh |
| 01:32.25 | pagefault | china showing their human rights leadership again by blocking skype |
| 01:35.25 | purple_cow | what a messed up film |
| 01:36.49 | CIA-5 | asterlink: 03jcolp * 10gemini/gemini_utils.c: Change return values on parse_callid |
| 01:37.44 | pagefault | I want my food |
| 01:37.55 | file[muon] | blocking skype? that's hard to do |
| 01:38.20 | pagefault | maybe they block the web site to download it |
| 01:38.29 | file[muon] | that might be it |
| 01:38.33 | pagefault | or the login servers |
| 01:49.00 | pagefault | mmm |
| 01:49.03 | pagefault | this burger is pretty good |
| 01:49.17 | pagefault | no clue why they gave me chalet sauce though |
| 01:49.24 | file[muon] | lol |
| 01:53.36 | purple_cow | yay peter sellers! |
| 01:53.53 | file[muon] | pagefault: nifty eh? |
| 01:54.31 | pagefault | yep |
| 01:54.34 | pagefault | already eaten |
| 01:54.38 | pagefault | working on fries now |
| 01:57.37 | pagefault | and i'm done |
| 01:57.39 | pagefault | that was excellent |
| 01:57.44 | pagefault | or I was just really hungry |
| 01:58.18 | purple_cow | good lord |
| 01:58.22 | purple_cow | this movie makes no sense whatsoever |
| 02:12.49 | pagefault | I saw a mac mini for the first time |
| 02:12.55 | pagefault | they really are very small |
| 02:13.00 | pagefault | I didn't know they were that small |
| 02:14.35 | purple_cow | "you know, if you weren't my dad, i think i could fancy you" "that's very good of you my dear. rather warm in here, don't you think?" |
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| 02:40.17 | purple_cow | slimspace: did you email the sun guys yet? |
| 02:40.34 | slimspace | not yet...I should do that now |
| 02:40.46 | slimspace | We just need to let them know we're doing the project, right? |
| 02:40.54 | purple_cow | we also need to know what requirements they want to add |
| 02:41.17 | slimspace | alright. That's the meeting we were planning for this coming Thursday? |
| 02:41.28 | purple_cow | yeah, but we need their response before then |
| 02:41.32 | slimspace | right |
| 02:41.36 | slimspace | alright, I'll let them know |
| 02:42.51 | purple_cow | remember to cc everyone :) |
| 02:42.57 | slimspace | of course :) |
| 02:55.26 | slimspace | it's away |
| 02:58.20 | purple_cow | cool |
| 02:58.35 | purple_cow | eek |
| 02:58.49 | purple_cow | slimspace: doesn't really leave us a lot of time to revise the document :P |
| 02:59.18 | purple_cow | and it conflicts with the end of my class :P |
| 03:00.39 | slimspace | isn't that the time we set up? |
| 03:02.22 | purple_cow | our meeting is at 4, but that's not a meeting with the sponsor, it's a meeting with bruce and the TA |
| 03:02.40 | purple_cow | oh wait, you said 3 PDT |
| 03:02.46 | slimspace | yeah, 4 MDT |
| 03:03.00 | purple_cow | we need to talk to the sponsor before that so we can have their requirements in our document |
| 03:03.43 | purple_cow | and i was thinking we'd do that over email, rather than a real meeting |
| 03:03.59 | slimspace | well, maybe you should have sent the email then |
| 03:04.11 | slimspace | I thought we were going to do an actual meeting |
| 03:06.19 | purple_cow | did you read the web page about the meeting? |
| 03:06.33 | slimspace | yeah, but I forgot about it |
| 03:07.05 | slimspace | that's not what I'm talking about though. That I understand, but I didn't realize you had an email "meeting" in mind instead of an actual one. |
| 03:07.49 | purple_cow | well, either would work |
| 03:08.39 | scanlime | Kaiser Permanente sure is mailing me a lot of random stuff |
| 03:08.50 | pagefault | hmm |
| 03:08.54 | pagefault | neutrino is really screwed up |
| 03:08.54 | slimspace | purple_cow: well, I can send an email saying to the effect "oops, seems we have another meeting at that time. Can we talk before then?" |
| 03:08.56 | scanlime | I mean, it's useful stuff, but it makes me wonder why they don't just send it all at once |
| 03:09.02 | pagefault | it thinks I am logging in from 192.168.0.1 |
| 03:11.28 | file[laptop] | pagefault: it's... not quite screwed up |
| 03:11.32 | file[laptop] | 192.168.0.1 is itself |
| 03:11.43 | purple_cow | slimspace: i'm composing a response |
| 03:11.49 | slimspace | ok |
| 03:12.56 | pagefault | ah |
| 03:13.12 | file[laptop] | pagefault: it's just confused. |
| 03:19.54 | pagefault | aww |
| 03:20.01 | pagefault | my napster hack doesn't work anymore |
| 03:20.03 | pagefault | no more free music |
| 03:25.31 | purple_cow | jeez |
| 03:25.43 | purple_cow | this movie is what would have happened if ian fleming took cocaine |
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| 03:48.00 | file[laptop] | yay weekend |
| 03:48.05 | kergoth | yay |
| 03:50.06 | purple_cow | ya know, normally it's ok for a movie to have 4 writers, but i think each of the 4 writers here never read anything the others wrote |
| 03:50.53 | purple_cow | and they were all on very powerful drugs |
| 03:51.30 | file[laptop] | oh god this guy from Cingular needs to be shot |
| 03:58.53 | purple_cow | wow |
| 03:59.26 | purple_cow | that ending made even less sense than the end of the party |
| 04:34.57 | file[laptop] | scanlime: did they do well? |
| 04:35.06 | scanlime | they? |
| 04:35.12 | file[laptop] | whoever made your coffee table. |
| 04:35.23 | scanlime | not really.. the welding job is awful |
| 04:35.33 | scanlime | but it's exactly the same as purple_cow's :P |
| 04:35.43 | file[laptop] | lol |
| 04:35.45 | scanlime | I like it a lot, despite its questionable metalwork |
| 04:36.04 | purple_cow | they're good tables |
| 04:36.55 | scanlime | yup |
| 04:38.25 | scanlime | oog.. arm is still sore where I was using it as a lever to get the cabinet into a shopping cart |
| 04:38.32 | scanlime | that took some creativity... |
| 04:57.07 | nullpuppy|work | scanlime: any pictures yet of this new furniture? |
| 05:00.34 | scanlime | no. I just got the coffee table and endtables assembled, but they aren't really in place yet.. and the server cabinet has lots of assembly left |
| 05:00.40 | scanlime | and my headache is back... |
| 05:00.42 | scanlime | damn this |
| 05:13.49 | ToyKeeper | D'oh. |
| 05:14.09 | ToyKeeper | Connecting to this AP requires a newer version of my wifi driver. |
| 05:14.15 | ToyKeeper | The wifi driver requires a newer gcc. |
| 05:14.35 | ToyKeeper | The newer gcc can't build modules compatible with the kernel I'm running, built with an older gcc. |
| 05:23.47 | purple_cow | http://broken.typepad.com/.shared/image.html?/photos/uncategorized/canon.png |
| 05:36.32 | scanlime | wow |
| 05:39.48 | ChipX86 | we're going to play bzflag if people want to join |
| 05:41.59 | purple_cow | hehe, yay monty python |
| 05:42.16 | purple_cow | they need to make the "blackmail" TV show real |
| 05:42.29 | purple_cow | it'd be so much cooler than most of the reality shows they do nowadays |
| 05:42.32 | purple_cow | and probably less tasteless |
| 06:12.59 | scanlime | when all you have are nails, everything looks like a hammer |
| 06:13.35 | riotert | even hammers? |
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| 07:32.08 | scanlime | mmmm, hole saw |
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| 08:37.51 | riotert | anyone in the know, how hard is it to reverse a usb protocall? |
| 08:37.56 | riotert | reverse eng. that is |
| 08:37.59 | riotert | damn my lack of english skills |
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| 09:51.00 | CIA-5 | spacegrant: 03maccarro * r1694 10mck/ (18 files in 10 dirs): The flight software has a new comm protocol. Synchronization won't take 4 minutes anymore! |
| 10:10.33 | scanlime | rioter: depends on the protocol |
| 10:11.06 | rioter | dku-5 from nokia |
| 10:11.18 | rioter | but i found a program that already has it so i wont have to do much |
| 10:11.35 | scanlime | wooo |
| 10:11.47 | scanlime | wrt54g, cable modem, UPS, and wasabi working in my new cabinet |
| 10:12.05 | scanlime | that involved a lot of sawdust and zip ties... |
| 10:12.17 | rioter | hehe you call them zip ties? |
| 10:12.19 | rioter | cable ties here |
| 10:12.52 | scanlime | you hear cable ties here too, but that's more of a generic term.. there are lots of ways to tie cable, but the little plastic ones that make the 'zip' noise are zip ties |
| 10:14.37 | rioter | ah, yeah cable ties all around here, dont think ive heard the term zip ties before |
| 10:18.39 | scanlime | woo.. got warzok and the disk array in there too now |
| 10:19.12 | scanlime | power and cable go directly into the back, the only cables coming out will be video/audio/USB for the entertainment goop, and maybe a cat5 for wired ethernet |
| 10:19.24 | scanlime | hmm, it got late :P |
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| 15:27.25 | kergoth | hehe |
| 15:27.27 | kergoth | death becomes her |
| 15:27.30 | kergoth | havent seen this in a long time |
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| 15:56.11 | file[laptop] | waking up to my boss wanting info on our system isn't exactly good |
| 16:01.42 | file[laptop] | classic Alan |
| 16:01.48 | file[laptop] | "if this transfer thing doesnt work i think there might be something else that's not working right and we kinad need to investigate...." |
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| 16:07.38 | kergoth | heh |
| 16:21.36 | file[laptop] | kergoth: wanna see more classic Alan? :) |
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| 16:50.08 | file[laptop] | lurgyness! |
| 16:58.50 | lurgy | ya |
| 17:11.32 | nullpuppy | http://janis.or.jp/users/segabito/JavaScriptMaryo.html |
| 17:15.52 | Sophie197 | is SN0 still down? |
| 17:16.20 | Sophie197 | kergoth, did they say anything on Ubermovie about it? |
| 17:16.50 | kergoth | Sophie197: havent been on, installed my new scsi drives and rearranging things |
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| 17:44.04 | file[laptop] | hail pagefault |
| 17:44.10 | pagefault | hey file |
| 17:49.51 | kergoth | my grandpa has a blood infection now :( |
| 17:50.04 | nullpuppy | :( |
| 17:50.09 | ChipX86 | kergoth: :(( |
| 17:50.13 | file[laptop] | eep :( |
| 17:52.09 | numist | ok, Im out.. see you guys from marin |
| 17:52.14 | ChipX86 | cya later |
| 18:38.14 | purple_cow | scanlime: you should take a photo of the inside of your cabinet :) |
| 18:39.07 | lurgy | purple_cow: so, word is we're coalescing at your apt this evening? |
| 18:39.21 | kergoth | sigh, unionfs still oopses on occasion nowadays |
| 18:39.26 | purple_cow | lurgy: if you like |
| 18:39.43 | lurgy | purple_cow: well, that's what zak said |
| 18:42.00 | lurgy | i was kinda tempted to go see IFS tonight |
| 18:43.32 | purple_cow | haha, that does sound cool |
| 18:43.59 | lurgy | the preview for it that they showed at "Kontroll" seemed really funny |
| 18:44.27 | lurgy | "Excuse me.. I think I went to school with you" |
| 18:44.40 | lurgy | "Yeah? I'm from Seoul" |
| 18:44.53 | lurgy | "Are you sure you don't mean.. Andromeda?" |
| 18:57.03 | kergoth | <TimRikerDad> fork went well. child and parent processes are all doing fine. http://rikers.org/gallery/20050909abigail |
| 18:57.27 | ChipX86 | what a geek :) |
| 18:57.39 | ChipX86 | cool |
| 18:58.57 | nullpuppy | haha :) |
| 19:04.10 | scanlime | so tiny |
| 19:04.38 | scanlime | purple_cow: got some.. just need to upload them |
| 19:06.32 | kergoth | hehe |
| 19:08.52 | kergoth | hmmm |
| 19:09.00 | kergoth | i think i'm gonna enhance cornfs to meet my needs |
| 19:10.18 | kergoth | disable caching of files for mirrors marked as such, since thats silly for local paths.. give it more flexibility wrt the algorithm used to select which path gets a new file.. |
| 19:11.03 | file[laptop] | awww poor CIA |
| 19:11.09 | purple_cow | urk |
| 19:11.22 | ChipX86 | gah |
| 19:11.28 | nullpuppy | wtf |
| 19:12.09 | kergoth | CIA :( |
| 19:13.23 | scanlime | ugh |
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| 19:15.59 | ChipX86 | kbrooks is on my instant idiot list |
| 19:16.09 | scanlime | yea |
| 19:17.27 | scanlime | so wasabi is really the only thing in this cabinet that gets hot |
| 19:17.35 | scanlime | but wasabi sure does get hot.. I'll need to add some exhaust fans |
| 19:18.01 | scanlime | that's going to be tough, unless I can find a 120mm hole saw :P |
| 19:18.08 | ChipX86 | #commits turned into an idiot circus |
| 19:18.23 | nullpuppy | yup |
| 19:18.24 | lurgy | yay |
| 19:18.40 | nullpuppy | makes some great entertainment |
| 19:18.41 | scanlime | ugh |
| 19:18.45 | scanlime | yeah |
| 19:19.04 | purple_cow | it's like back before diablo-d3 got quiet |
| 19:19.12 | scanlime | hehe |
| 19:19.14 | ChipX86 | heh |
| 19:19.17 | nullpuppy | lol |
| 19:20.40 | ChipX86 | ugh |
| 19:20.49 | CIA-5 | view: 03chipx86 * 10libview/ (ChangeLog Makefile.am configure.ac): Make sure we bundle scripts/doxy-filter.pl in the tarball. |
| 19:21.11 | scanlime | this living room sure got smaller with a coffee table |
| 19:21.13 | CIA-5 | view: 03chipx86 * 10libview/scripts/Makefile.am: Gah, forgot these. |
| 19:21.32 | ChipX86 | *sigh* I'm making silly mistakes. |
| 19:21.52 | scanlime | oh, my upload finished |
| 19:21.55 | scanlime | purple_cow: http://zero.navi.cx/gallery/server-cabinet |
| 19:21.56 | CIA-5 | view: 03chipx86 * 10libview/scripts/.cvsignore: Ignore files that we don't care about. |
| 19:23.07 | file[laptop] | that's a sweet cabinet |
| 19:23.24 | nullpuppy | yeah, very nice |
| 19:23.25 | scanlime | it's a very heavy cheaply made cabinet |
| 19:23.26 | scanlime | :) |
| 19:23.31 | scanlime | but it works nicely |
| 19:23.42 | scanlime | and I ran down one of my drill's batteries cutting all those holes |
| 19:23.45 | file[laptop] | how much was it? |
| 19:24.11 | scanlime | let's see... |
| 19:24.19 | nullpuppy | now you just need something to put your tv on :) |
| 19:24.38 | scanlime | with tax and all, $150 |
| 19:24.48 | scanlime | nullpuppy: yeah. I'm putting that off until I find a TV stand that doesn't suck |
| 19:25.14 | scanlime | all the ones I've seen are way too deep and way too expensive |
| 19:25.16 | nullpuppy | hehe, can't blame ya ;) |
| 19:25.35 | scanlime | I don't want a stand that just wastes floor space when all the equipment I have is fairly shallow |
| 19:25.45 | file[laptop] | my TV stand was built by my father... |
| 19:26.03 | file[laptop] | rather decent - holds my TV, VCR, DVD, and printer |
| 19:29.12 | purple_cow | which of these is not like the other? |
| 19:40.06 | scanlime | :) |
| 19:43.12 | purple_cow | and wow |
| 19:43.16 | purple_cow | someone that still uses a VCR |
| 19:43.45 | file[laptop] | it's not even hooked up |
| 19:43.46 | scanlime | I'm surprised they still sell VCRs |
| 19:43.56 | ChipX86 | I'm not |
| 19:44.07 | ChipX86 | a lot of people still think that they're far cheaper than DVDs and that DVDs aren't worth it |
| 19:44.17 | ChipX86 | they're the kidns of people who haven't really looked into it in any way, of course |
| 19:44.25 | scanlime | yeah |
| 19:44.27 | ChipX86 | I recently got my dad to switch to a DVD player |
| 19:44.32 | scanlime | the only thing uglier than NTSC is NTSC from a VCR |
| 19:44.34 | pagefault | hehe |
| 19:44.38 | ChipX86 | :) |
| 19:44.41 | pagefault | it's funny |
| 19:44.43 | pagefault | when DVD's came out |
| 19:44.45 | pagefault | my dad was like |
| 19:44.48 | pagefault | "oh thats just another toy" |
| 19:44.56 | pagefault | but now he makes his own digital movies and his own DVDs |
| 19:45.01 | pagefault | and has a DVD player on every tv |
| 19:45.28 | pagefault | now he's a DVD freak |
| 19:47.08 | purple_cow | hmm |
| 19:47.11 | purple_cow | that could be a song! |
| 19:47.16 | purple_cow | "now he's a DVD freak" |
| 19:50.56 | pagefault | man version control systems have saved my ass so many times it's not funny |
| 19:52.04 | kergoth | heh |
| 20:07.33 | nullpuppy | hrm... anyone here use beep? |
| 20:12.53 | scanlime | I used to use it a lot |
| 20:19.18 | pagefault | hehe |
| 20:20.12 | pagefault | is there an ares client for linux |
| 20:23.02 | file[muon] | doubt it |
| 20:23.11 | pagefault | it's like napster |
| 20:23.14 | pagefault | the next generation |
| 20:25.20 | pagefault | I see sourceforge is being useful |
| 20:25.25 | pagefault | I can't see cvsweb |
| 20:29.04 | pagefault | By Grabthar's hammer, what a deal |
| 20:29.29 | kergoth | grabthar's hammer.. what do i know that from.. that spac movie with tim allen? |
| 20:29.44 | pagefault | yep |
| 20:30.00 | kergoth | funny movie |
| 20:30.01 | kergoth | :) |
| 20:31.41 | scanlime | hah. check out Christian Kellner's group photo on p.g.o ;) |
| 20:33.13 | purple_cow | hey look, i know a couple of the people in that |
| 20:35.48 | scanlime | it's indeed very blurry |
| 20:35.57 | scanlime | the 'flash' on rachel's hiptop camera is just a white LED :P |
| 20:36.30 | purple_cow | hah |
| 20:38.53 | nullpuppy | oh crap, i lost my chat window in WoW |
| 20:39.00 | nullpuppy | oh, there it is |
| 20:55.14 | pagefault | google needs some way of only searching quotes |
| 20:55.54 | pagefault | well yeah, but I mean the whole interweb |
| 20:59.06 | scanlime | ooh weird |
| 20:59.32 | scanlime | someone in #vmware asking a question about USB :P |
| 20:59.49 | pagefault | ooh |
| 21:00.04 | scanlime | well, it was a while ago. I just now noticed and asked for clarification |
| 21:00.21 | scanlime | if it's what I think it is, I've actually already fixed it.. but I can't reveal that ;) |
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| 21:12.49 | scanlime | hmm |
| 21:13.13 | scanlime | bet I could go get some bread crumbs then make chicken parmesan |
| 21:13.42 | purple_cow | do you have eggs and a lot of olive oil? |
| 21:14.43 | scanlime | yes |
| 21:15.39 | purple_cow | go for it |
| 21:15.44 | scanlime | :) |
| 21:15.51 | scanlime | hmm, this cabinet is definitely going to need vent holes over wasabi |
| 21:16.14 | scanlime | maybe a fan, though I'll have to see how well it does just with convection |
| 21:16.59 | pagefault | I've got a great feature for vmware, something to pause it really fast |
| 21:17.14 | pagefault | like just halt it |
| 21:17.38 | scanlime | that's a silly feature |
| 21:18.01 | pagefault | well I do a lot of work on my host machine as well as my guest |
| 21:18.09 | pagefault | and sometimes I would like full resources going to my host machine |
| 21:18.13 | scanlime | suspend/resume is getting very fast |
| 21:18.19 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r8890 10xchat-gnome/fe-gnome/ (Makefile.am about.c gui.h): use gtk_about_dialog instead of gnome_about |
| 21:18.50 | scanlime | I know it's way snappier in the 5.5 betas you folks have than it was in 5.0 |
| 21:19.18 | scanlime | if you really want to just pause instantly without suspending anything to disk.. you probably want a kernel debugger or something :P |
| 21:19.22 | pagefault | hehe |
| 21:20.23 | scanlime | purple_cow: methinks I shall indeed make chicken parmesan for dinner tonight. Tempted to do it now, but I'd rather not go buy bread crumbs with all this coffee sitting here ;) |
| 21:20.25 | scanlime | mmm coffee |
| 21:21.24 | scanlime | oh.. I don't have any baking pans |
| 21:21.27 | scanlime | will need to fix that too |
| 21:24.02 | purple_cow | scanlime: keep in mind that it'd be nice to have elements in this filesystem-menu thing be able to launch pluginey things |
| 21:24.09 | kergoth | event driven? |
| 21:24.51 | purple_cow | so you could have standard tivo recording stuff, or the unicode button-mapping thing |
| 21:27.19 | purple_cow | kergoth: i think his idea is probably not what you want ;) |
| 21:27.32 | kergoth | i'm sure its not, but i'm curious |
| 21:29.19 | scanlime | purple_cow: I figure all the actual actions will be controlled by metadata, such as the mime type.. metadata can be provided by filters or union mounts that plugins provide |
| 21:29.47 | scanlime | kergoth: are you familiar with FAM/gamin's API? |
| 21:30.05 | kergoth | fraid not, havent used em |
| 21:30.25 | scanlime | k. The idea is you "open" a file/directory, then as long as it's open you receive events from it |
| 21:30.45 | scanlime | those events include existing files, coming in from an asynchronous directory listing |
| 21:30.54 | scanlime | they also include added/deleted files |
| 21:31.35 | scanlime | what I want to do is extend that model to support file metadata and other event types, to work with multiple event source backends, and to support unioning and other advanced features on arbitrary collections of event sources |
| 21:32.07 | kergoth | hmm, interesting |
| 21:32.12 | scanlime | so just by filtering, aggregating, and distributing these events you can have a really snappy and responsive way to browse data from a wide variety of sources |
| 21:32.40 | scanlime | I'm interested in having multiple filesystems connected via gamin, plus metadata coming in from mmpython, etc |
| 21:33.09 | scanlime | and the GUI will still be immediately responsive to everything.. no waiting for an entire directory to load, no waiting to cancel an operation... |
| 21:33.56 | scanlime | I've been pondering methods of unioning these event-driven filesystems.. it gets tricky, because you don't really know how many event sources a particular file has until you've finished loading its parent directory.. but you really don't want to wait on the directory to load before getting any info on that file |
| 21:34.30 | scanlime | so I think I'm going to have to have smarter 'nodes' that come between the event consumers and the event producers, that can dynamically add and remove event sources |
| 21:34.48 | scanlime | then make the event consumers aware that event sources (and the progress information tied to each) may appear or disappear at any time |
| 21:35.00 | kergoth | hmmm |
| 21:35.05 | scanlime | this means that the GUI might have a status bar at the bottom showing all the disks or other event sources in use, with separate progress bars for each |
| 21:35.20 | scanlime | so you can tell if your RAID is really snappy but your networked disk is stalled |
| 21:35.39 | scanlime | and if that's the case, the files on your networked disk just don't appear until that event source reports them |
| 21:36.19 | scanlime | this should still work even if you're deeper in the directory tree- so a particular node is going to have to keep opened event streams from its ancestors, so it can find new ways to merge directories from the various sources |
| 21:37.00 | scanlime | bah. the mi6k really doesn't work that well on the floor |
| 21:37.08 | scanlime | the coffee table keeps getting between the remote and its sensor |
| 21:37.36 | scanlime | mebbe with an OLED display... |
| 21:38.03 | scanlime | the mi6k really could be put into a much tinier case, especially if I used a power brick instead of having an internal switching supply |
| 21:38.43 | scanlime | purple_cow: speaking of that.. even though you bought that really cheap SMPS board off of me, I'd kinda recommend using a 5V power brick.. they've become really tiny these days, and it keeps most of the high voltage out of your case |
| 21:38.52 | scanlime | purple_cow: it should really help if you're still planning on using the plastic tube |
| 21:39.09 | scanlime | purple_cow: if you don't have any such power bricks, I have a few extra.. USB hubs like to come with really tiny 5V at 2A or so bricks |
| 21:39.23 | scanlime | the mi6k really only needs about 1A |
| 21:39.38 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r8891 10xchat-gnome/fe-gnome/userlist-gui.c: no more gtk errors on the console |
| 21:39.58 | scanlime | purple_cow: or you could give it two USB plugs ;) |
| 21:40.08 | purple_cow | hahahahaha no |
| 21:40.31 | scanlime | or one USB plug, and a little warning sticker that says "only use with powered hubs" |
| 21:40.53 | scanlime | the hubs I have all have disgustingly overkill voltage regulators |
| 21:40.54 | scanlime | it'd be fine :) |
| 21:42.27 | scanlime | ooh |
| 21:42.29 | scanlime | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Breads |
| 21:44.12 | scanlime | "Until the recent arrival of US style "raised" muffins, the word muffin was used in England without modification. When Bertie Wooster eats muffins, he is eating English muffins." |
| 21:55.57 | kergoth | mm, english muffins |
| 21:56.15 | file | muffins! |
| 22:04.51 | scanlime | ugh. up to CIA-13 |
| 22:05.08 | purple_cow | hehe |
| 22:05.51 | scanlime | oh, and two more channels that banned it :P |
| 22:05.54 | purple_cow | scanlime: so, care to trade me a 5v brick for a 5v switching PS? :) |
| 22:06.03 | scanlime | sure, I've got plenty of these |
| 22:06.08 | scanlime | even a really tiny one |
| 22:06.15 | purple_cow | really tiny is good |
| 22:06.38 | scanlime | it happens apparently |
| 22:06.46 | purple_cow | i guess some people get frustrated when it floods off |
| 22:06.55 | scanlime | I mean, they obviously can't ask me to remove it... that'd be too hard |
| 22:06.58 | scanlime | and kicking it doesn't work |
| 22:07.38 | scanlime | I imagine it's usually people other than whoever asked for the bot.. they probably think "OMG, what's this silly bot doing here?" and ban it |
| 22:18.34 | pagefault | ot |
| 22:18.41 | pagefault | it's funny someone in my guild is called gaim |
| 22:20.09 | purple_cow | argh |
| 22:20.11 | purple_cow | svn: Unrecognized URL scheme for 'http://svn.navi.cx/misc/trunk/xchat-gnome' |
| 22:20.12 | purple_cow | WTF |
| 22:21.26 | scanlime | hah |
| 22:21.33 | purple_cow | screw you too, gentoo |
| 22:26.06 | scanlime | what's the trendy way to do videoconferencing these days? gnomemeeting? |
| 22:26.41 | purple_cow | prolly |
| 22:27.39 | scanlime | my parents got interested in it.. so ideally I'd want something that works with my firewire camera and whatever windows videoconferencing software they can use |
| 22:30.31 | purple_cow | guh |
| 22:30.40 | purple_cow | most of the xchat people bother me to the core |
| 22:32.04 | purple_cow | they're all obsessed with "minigtk" and static linking |
| 22:33.04 | scanlime | guh |
| 22:34.49 | pagefault | you can use a firewire cam as a webcam? |
| 22:36.29 | purple_cow | sure, but why would you want to? |
| 22:36.35 | purple_cow | webcams are stupid, except for the netscape fishcam |
| 22:38.07 | scanlime | purple_cow: the magic 8-ball cam was pretty neat |
| 22:38.42 | pagefault | well |
| 22:38.43 | purple_cow | hrmph |
| 22:38.43 | pagefault | I mean like |
| 22:38.49 | pagefault | comferencing, when I say webcam |
| 22:38.59 | pagefault | I just call any kind of camera hooked up to a computer a webcam |
| 22:39.44 | purple_cow | pagefault: that's awfully silly |
| 22:39.47 | pagefault | yeah |
| 22:39.53 | pagefault | but it is my wacky canadian way |
| 22:40.13 | pagefault | just like macaroni and cheese is 'kraft dinner' |
| 22:40.47 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r8892 10xchat-gnome/buildsystem.diff: update for latest xchat cvs, bump minimum gtk+ to 2.6 |
| 22:41.13 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r8893 10xchat-gnome/fe-gnome/ (main-window.c xchat-gnome-ui.xml): get rid of the "insert" menu |
| 22:41.31 | scanlime | purple_cow: you should statically link xchat-gnome to everything! it'd be great |
| 22:41.37 | scanlime | purple_cow: you can even include your own themes |
| 22:41.51 | purple_cow | great idea |
| 22:41.55 | scanlime | you can statically link to themes, right? |
| 22:42.01 | pagefault | hmm |
| 22:42.04 | purple_cow | with some patching i could |
| 22:42.04 | pagefault | ubuntu is due for a release soon |
| 22:51.21 | zak_away | scanlime: if you build it out of metal |
| 22:51.48 | zak_away | why not wood? you could abandon eletronics and spend the rest of your life as a carpenter |
| 22:54.14 | scanlime | as much as I like wood, I like metal and/or glass a lot better |
| 22:54.35 | scanlime | but I'm not nearly anywhere close to good enough at metal and/or woodworking to build a nice looking TV stand |
| 22:54.49 | scanlime | I doubt plastic would support it ;) |
| 22:55.46 | zak_away | what about something liked this: http://www.stacksandstacks.com/image/9965.jpg |
| 22:55.48 | scanlime | ideally I could do a wall mount, but that requires cutting big holes in walls, something I doubt they would be happy with here |
| 22:56.10 | zak_away | easily fixed ^_^ |
| 22:56.11 | scanlime | zak_away: ah, no. That looks awful flimsy |
| 22:56.25 | scanlime | I mean, it'd make a great rack for kitchen stuff |
| 22:56.34 | scanlime | but I doubt it would handle 150 lbs or so squarely in the middle of a shelf |
| 22:56.45 | zak_away | The four ventilated shelves hold up to 250 lbs. per shelf and are adjustable: placement of shelves can be determined at pre-marked 1” intervals. |
| 22:56.55 | zak_away | when T=inch |
| 22:57.05 | zak_away | ha! |
| 22:57.08 | scanlime | hmm |
| 22:57.29 | scanlime | maybe with some cross-bracing under the shelf... |
| 22:57.35 | zak_away | they also have lots of other shelves |
| 22:57.49 | zak_away | http://www.stacksandstacks.com/html/product177_0.htm |
| 22:58.10 | zak_away | how heavy is your TV, the shelves already hold 250 lbs |
| 22:59.02 | scanlime | zak_away: IIRC it's about 150 lbs, but my issue is that it's a very concentrated load whereas the shelves are probably designed for that 250 lbs to be spread out across their surface |
| 22:59.22 | zak_away | scanlime: lol, this is perfect: http://www.stacksandstacks.com/image/1_109497.jpg |
| 22:59.41 | scanlime | also, I'd ideally want something just a little over a foot deep- I can wall-anchor it to keep it from tipping forward |
| 22:59.59 | scanlime | yes, it does ;) |
| 23:00.33 | scanlime | did you see the inside of my cabinet? |
| 23:00.35 | scanlime | lotsa zip ties |
| 23:00.43 | zak_away | lol, yep |
| 23:00.46 | scanlime | zak_away: I think I'm making chicken parmesan tonight :) |
| 23:00.54 | zak_away | ooo. that sounds good too |
| 23:01.15 | zak_away | i am actually not really in a curry mood tonight, i might see if they have other interests |
| 23:01.26 | zak_away | eitherway, i have abandoned my brother to the fates |
| 23:01.31 | zak_away | i should go rescue him |
| 23:02.44 | scanlime | zak_away: noooo |
| 23:07.56 | *** join/#tacobeam lurgy|skool (n=lurgyman@zero.navi.cx) |
| 23:07.59 | lurgy|skool | purple_cow: people there? |
| 23:08.32 | lurgy|skool | well |
| 23:08.59 | lurgy|skool | at any rate, i'll head down from school pretty shortly if you're there and stuff |
| 23:13.12 | lurgy|skool | uh oh purple_cow must not be paying attention |
| 23:20.28 | scanlime | hmmm! |
| 23:20.30 | scanlime | http://www.racksandstands.com/prods/Alphason-Designs/FTV3-1G/0PAP1013.htm |
| 23:20.32 | scanlime | I like that one |
| 23:20.53 | scanlime | 18" deep, which seems to work ok with the size of my living room |
| 23:22.27 | lurgy|skool | yay |
| 23:22.38 | scanlime | and I can't believe they're offering free shipping on furniture |
| 23:23.02 | scanlime | mmm.. katamari damacy soundtrack |
| 23:29.35 | scanlime | bah. that stand isn't quite wide enough |
| 23:29.44 | scanlime | despite how they claim it supports 42" plasmas... |
