| 00:00.06 | purple_cow | not saying you need to, but you're the only one here ;) |
| 00:00.17 | pagefault-VM | hmm |
| 00:00.19 | pagefault-VM | oh ok |
| 00:00.29 | pagefault-VM | apparently CPU stepping doesn't like VM's |
| 00:00.41 | pagefault-VM | I turned it off and it's fine now |
| 00:01.20 | darth_mall | oh, ok |
| 00:02.31 | pagefault-VM | scanlime, OS X doesn't seem to boot anymore in 5.5 though, not that it's supported anyway :) |
| 00:04.06 | scanlime | you don't have 5.5, you have beta 1 :P |
| 00:04.19 | pagefault-VM | well, beta 1 :) |
| 00:04.38 | pagefault-VM | beta 1 is pretty nifty though |
| 00:04.43 | pagefault-VM | the new interface is nice |
| 00:22.31 | pagefault-VM | blah |
| 00:23.30 | file | bleh |
| 00:24.40 | pagefault-VM | bleh classes tomorrow |
| 00:25.51 | pagefault-VM | yay mythbusters is on yet again |
| 00:26.32 | pagefault-VM | it's rather odd they show it in 16:9 but they don't offer it in HDTV |
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| 00:59.55 | pagefault | is there any way to paste something from my host machine into my guest machine |
| 01:01.02 | file | classes? eek |
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| 01:21.40 | CIA-5 | zsnes: 03pagefault * 10zsnes/src/cpu/spc700.asm: Fix some randomness in the SPC core for now |
| 01:26.54 | CIA-5 | zsnes: 03pagefault * 10zsnes/src/ (cfgload.c win/winintrf.asm win/winlink.cpp): Added some new video modes to Win32 port [Aerdan] |
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| 02:05.51 | pagefault | scotchtoberfest! |
| 02:20.14 | kergoth | hey ChipX86 |
| 02:20.47 | ChipX86 | hey |
| 02:21.27 | ChipX86 | back home |
| 02:21.43 | ChipX86 | going to get some food and play WoW for a bit |
| 02:23.26 | scanlime | how was chico? |
| 02:25.41 | ChipX86 | it was good. We had a great time, and Jamie loves her new phone :) |
| 02:25.43 | ChipX86 | she was shocked |
| 02:25.50 | kergoth | nice, what phone did you get her? |
| 02:25.56 | ChipX86 | we were shopping for it and she didn't even know |
| 02:26.12 | ChipX86 | it's a lower-end but still good enough Sanyo phone |
| 02:26.37 | scanlime | neat |
| 02:26.43 | ChipX86 | she knew we were going phone shopping. Just, she thought I was replacing my phone (which I was), but not buying her one |
| 02:26.46 | scanlime | mmm.. fuzzy blanket |
| 02:26.55 | scanlime | :) |
| 02:26.57 | file | ChipX86: you romantic guy you |
| 02:27.02 | ChipX86 | :) |
| 02:27.13 | file | I bet you're number #1 on speed dial |
| 02:27.21 | ChipX86 | #2. #1 is voicemail |
| 02:27.28 | file | blasphemy! |
| 02:27.33 | file | who needs voicemail when they can talk to you?!? |
| 02:27.34 | ChipX86 | now we can talk without using any minutes |
| 02:27.37 | ChipX86 | :) |
| 02:28.13 | kergoth | yay |
| 02:29.03 | ChipX86 | http://www1.sprintpcs.com/explore/PhonesAccessories/PhoneDetails.jsp?navLocator=%7Cshop%7CphonesAccessories%7CallPhones%7C&selectSkuId=sanyovi2300&FOLDER%3C%3Efolder_id=1476015&CURRENT_USER%3C%3EATR_SCID=ECOMM&CURRENT_USER%3C%3EATR_PCode=None&CURRENT_USER%3C%3EATR_cartState=group&bmUID=1125973717727 |
| 02:29.09 | ChipX86 | that's her phone |
| 02:29.21 | ChipX86 | except red |
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| 02:29.24 | file | Sprint... my boss uses them |
| 02:29.46 | ChipX86 | and a car charger, and a headset |
| 02:29.51 | ChipX86 | brb |
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| 02:56.47 | *** topic/#tacobeam by laodamas -> The fact that your costume is accurate to the last detail doesn't change the the fact that TV show sucked |
| 03:29.18 | *** topic/#tacobeam by numist -> The fact that your costume is accurate to the last detail doesn't change the fact that the TV show sucked |
| 03:40.54 | laodamas | :) |
| 03:41.50 | numist | sorry, grandmother was an english teacher... old habits die hard |
| 03:47.16 | laodamas | I am sorry. My grandmother was an english teacher; therefore, my habit of correcting other people's grammar dies hard. |
| 03:50.20 | numist | it wasn't that bad, if the jist of the grammar wasnt correct than a correction was pretty quick in coming (like I vs. me) |
| 03:53.07 | scanlime | http://sunnyvale.navi.cx/ <-- does that work for people? |
| 03:53.22 | kergoth | i've reached warzok |
| 03:53.27 | scanlime | good |
| 03:53.29 | ChipX86 | same |
| 03:53.42 | numist | nothing here yet |
| 03:53.46 | scanlime | apparently |
| 04:17.07 | laodamas | 706MB archive for a 698MB file |
| 04:17.34 | purple_cow | it's in case you need to write it to floppys |
| 04:18.03 | kergoth | multiple small parts is critical for usenet distribution, where messages dont always make it to all the servers. you can then use the .par/par2 partiy information to reconstruct the missing parts, rather than redownloading the whole thing. |
| 04:18.03 | laodamas | 14.3MB floppies? |
| 04:18.13 | kergoth | s/partiy/parity/ |
| 04:18.53 | purple_cow | ok, floptical disks |
| 04:22.59 | laodamas | IIRC torrents are CRC'd by block and sub-block |
| 04:23.32 | laodamas | Therefore why can't people spend five minutes to tweak the size of their torrents? |
| 04:24.50 | kergoth | yeah, there's no excuse for distributing in that format on a torrent. what, do they expect people to post it to usenet as is or something? |
| 04:25.08 | laodamas | what's usenet? :P |
| 04:25.23 | ChipX86 | http://abclocal.go.com/wpvi/story?section=bizarre&id=3414844 |
| 04:25.34 | kergoth | you'd be surprised how popular usenet still is for binary distribution |
| 04:26.23 | file[laptop] | I wonder if I can get work to buy me Navicat licenses |
| 05:09.06 | kergoth | woah, someone coded up mouse gestures support for wow |
| 05:09.07 | kergoth | neat |
| 05:09.16 | pagefault | remote desktop works so well |
| 05:11.48 | kergoth | pagefault: if you have any wow addon requests or suggestions for the naked & famous addon set, add them to http://nakedandfamous.org/wiki/WOW_Addons/Development under "Requests from other guild members" |
| 05:12.51 | kergoth | bleh |
| 05:12.53 | kergoth | i should sleep |
| 05:12.56 | kergoth | damn work |
| 05:13.06 | pagefault | stuff that isn't already in? |
| 05:13.53 | kergoth | its my addon development todo list |
| 05:13.53 | pagefault | ah hmm |
| 05:14.49 | pagefault | oh wow |
| 05:14.58 | pagefault | vmware is smart enough to know I am running it from a terminal |
| 05:15.01 | kergoth | hehe |
| 05:15.15 | kergoth | isatty() on stdin tells you that :) |
| 05:15.23 | pagefault-VM | nah I mean windows terminal services |
| 05:15.25 | pagefault-VM | remote desktop |
| 05:15.35 | kergoth | ah. |
| 05:15.38 | pagefault-VM | it just warned me that the cursor won't be acclerated |
| 05:15.39 | kergoth | neat |
| 05:16.27 | file[laptop] | pagefault-VM: yeah the rdp stuff shows up as a different physical device so it knows it's capabilities and junk |
| 05:16.57 | pagefault-VM | hehe |
| 05:17.09 | pagefault-VM | I must say it's much better than VNC |
| 05:17.13 | pagefault-VM | at least on a LAN |
| 05:17.16 | file[laptop] | yeah |
| 05:17.24 | file[laptop] | over the net it's much better too |
| 05:17.52 | pagefault-VM | finally something MS did right |
| 05:18.00 | file[laptop] | MSSQL is good too |
| 05:23.07 | pagefault | do you know what port it uses |
| 05:25.25 | numist | nice, my friend has some really sweet tunes |
| 05:38.12 | pagefault | night |
| 05:47.07 | purple_cow | you and your crawling |
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| 06:17.59 | ChipX86|Cell | neat |
| 06:18.00 | purple_cow | oh no! ChipX86 is cell?! |
| 06:18.03 | purple_cow | :) |
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| 06:19.24 | ChipX86|Cell | Hard To Use |
| 06:20.08 | ChipX86|Cell | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:54.27 | purple_cow | hehehe |
| 06:54.49 | purple_cow | like rolling dice at completely meaningless times and hmming to yourself |
| 06:55.17 | ChipX86 | hahaha |
| 06:55.30 | ChipX86 | that sounds fun |
| 07:20.04 | purple_cow | hahahahahaha |
| 07:20.07 | purple_cow | today's QC is great |
| 08:06.22 | purple_cow | "it's a boy! and look at that red hair!" "are you saying my boy's a commie?!" |
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| 11:24.28 | Veight | morning |
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| 13:59.31 | kergoth | morning |
| 14:13.16 | pagefault | morning |
| 14:13.55 | rioter | night |
| 14:13.59 | rioter | bed calls |
| 14:15.56 | pagefault | night |
| 14:16.08 | pagefault | hmm |
| 14:16.10 | pagefault | my VM locked up overnight |
| 14:16.12 | pagefault | thats not cool |
| 14:16.16 | kergoth | :( |
| 14:16.37 | pagefault | the entire app actually |
| 14:16.43 | pagefault | can't even close it now |
| 14:17.31 | pagefault | oh well |
| 14:17.35 | pagefault | I need to get going now anyway |
| 14:22.04 | kergoth | man, uml saves me so much time |
| 14:56.19 | gonkulator | this is incredible, I will have burned 7 CDs full of music with a mere 25% of my battery |
| 15:08.24 | gonkulator | ok, class preparation time |
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| 15:42.30 | scanlime | bleh |
| 15:42.34 | scanlime | feel kinda crappy this morning |
| 15:58.31 | darth_mall | =\ |
| 16:06.35 | numist | vmware makes their employees sick! |
| 16:06.51 | numist | brb |
| 16:08.03 | kergoth | hrm |
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| 16:22.11 | darth_mall | hahaha |
| 16:22.15 | darth_mall | Twisp and Catsby rock |
| 16:24.54 | purple_cow | you'd like to criticize it, wouldn't you? but it's not FOR you! |
| 16:25.18 | scanlime | darth_mall: haha, yes. That just made my morning suck less. |
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| 16:26.58 | scanlime | so, Christy's mom is amazing.. just from those pictures of my plants on zero, she identified them and told me all about them :) |
| 16:28.32 | scanlime | ok, I think I'm feeling uncrappy enough to drive to work now |
| 16:28.33 | scanlime | bbl |
| 16:28.52 | darth_mall | scanlime: there is also new AiR on stewped |
| 16:29.21 | darth_mall | actually, since I'm the only one who checks it regularly I should probably say, "there's two new AiR and one new AiRoad" |
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| 16:33.28 | darth_mall | bad Jin! It's tuesday, where's my new comic? |
| 16:47.26 | Cae | lunch |
| 16:47.32 | file | Cae: is good |
| 16:47.49 | kergoth | hmm, lunch is a good idea |
| 16:49.22 | file | kergoth: it's a trap |
| 16:59.20 | purple_cow | http://stuff.co.nz/stuff/0,2106,3399481a4560,00.html |
| 17:13.30 | scanlime | mmm |
| 17:13.44 | scanlime | the bagels tuesday/thursday mornings almost seem to make everything worthwhile |
| 17:13.57 | scanlime | they should move the tuesday bagels to monday, since it's especially good on the first day of the week |
| 17:24.08 | kergoth`food | mm, the arbys market fresh sandwiches arent bad |
| 17:24.32 | scanlime | heh. They're definitely the least awful thing on Arby's menu ;) |
| 17:24.49 | kergoth`food | not a fan of arby's roast beef then i take it |
| 17:25.00 | scanlime | that would be accurate |
| 17:25.08 | purple_cow | quantity is not a substitute for quality |
| 17:25.17 | purple_cow | at least where sandwiches are concerned |
| 17:25.28 | scanlime | kergoth`food: their 'cheez' makes me sick, literally |
| 17:25.46 | kergoth`food | yeah, that stuff is pretty nasty. i dunno what it is, but it isnt cheese |
| 17:26.28 | kergoth`food | oi, svk pulling down the 1.1 gig tree i just checked in, into the mirror |
| 17:26.34 | scanlime | someday I'm gonna go to Arby's and ask for 5 roast beef and cheez sandwiches, and a liter of cola |
| 17:26.40 | scanlime | doubt they'll think twice about it |
| 17:27.23 | purple_cow | hmmm |
| 17:27.28 | purple_cow | this new goldfrapp is very nice |
| 17:27.37 | kergoth`food | new goldfrapp you say.. |
| 17:27.49 | purple_cow | yep |
| 17:27.53 | scanlime | urg, I really need to make an appointment at the DMV... |
| 17:29.02 | purple_cow | ooh, darth_mall, that was smooth |
| 17:29.09 | purple_cow | you sent the "we should meet" email to just me |
| 17:29.16 | kergoth`food | hah |
| 17:29.18 | scanlime | ooh, intimate |
| 17:29.27 | kergoth`food | i should go buy a new phone tonight, and some clothes, considering i only own 4 shirts and 2 pairs of pants |
| 17:29.32 | kergoth`food | hrm |
| 17:32.58 | scanlime | your girlfriend lets you get away with that? |
| 17:33.04 | scanlime | I hope you have more than 2 pairs of underwear :) |
| 17:34.02 | kergoth`food | hehe, yep, plenty of underwear and socks.. i just left the clothes i didnt wear much in texas |
| 17:34.10 | kergoth`food | man, my place in tx was so trashed when i left it |
| 17:34.15 | kergoth`food | that they mailed me a cleaning bill. |
| 17:34.45 | scanlime | heh. that was on top of whatever your deposit was I assume? |
| 17:35.19 | kergoth | they didnt charge me a deposit when i got the place, i think because i got it through the guy TI pays to find employees places to live |
| 17:35.54 | scanlime | did you just leave the clothes in your apartment, or did you donate them? |
| 17:36.14 | kergoth | i just left em. and a -lot- of other shit |
| 17:36.19 | kergoth | i waited till the last minute to pack :P |
| 17:36.22 | scanlime | good job |
| 17:36.29 | kergoth | next time i move, i really ought to be more organized about it |
| 17:37.07 | kergoth | hmmm |
| 17:37.19 | kergoth | cingular has the motorola razr v3 for $150, and amazon has a $150 mail in rebate on it.. |
| 17:40.16 | scanlime | ugh. I'm going to have to pay late penalties on my car registration |
| 17:40.45 | numist | scanlime: ? |
| 17:40.53 | numist | thats silly... |
| 17:40.59 | scanlime | apparently the deadline is 20 days |
| 17:41.03 | scanlime | after you move |
| 17:41.10 | numist | oh yeah |
| 17:41.16 | scanlime | but the fees don't increase until it's a year late ;) |
| 17:41.37 | scanlime | yeah, it's going to suck |
| 17:41.54 | scanlime | though this should be cheaper than my colorado registration, I don't think I should have to pay tax again |
| 17:42.15 | kergoth | huh, i didnt realize they had late fees |
| 17:42.31 | kergoth | i went 1.5 years without getting texas registration on my car.. but then i bought the new one, so never did end up getting it |
| 17:42.34 | kergoth | morning ChipX86 |
| 17:42.37 | ChipX86 | morning |
| 17:42.54 | ChipX86 | finally, got a full night's sleep for the first time in days :) |
| 17:42.59 | scanlime | :) |
| 17:43.06 | ChipX86 | of course, now I'm a bit later than I'd like, but *shrug* |
| 17:43.17 | scanlime | ChipX86: we should plan some kind of cooking + movie shindig with you and your chico friends :) |
| 17:43.48 | ChipX86 | scanlime: we really should |
| 17:43.58 | numist | scanlime / ChipX86 : lunch at fuki frida? |
| 17:44.00 | ChipX86 | getting them here is a problem though |
| 17:44.02 | ChipX86 | numist: sure |
| 17:44.04 | scanlime | yes |
| 17:44.06 | numist | excellent |
| 17:44.14 | ChipX86 | oh boy. Just got an e-mail from a non-gaim user about gaim |
| 17:44.23 | numist | how does that work... |
| 17:44.39 | ChipX86 | he said because gaim is open source, a guy was able to use one of his screennames to find all the others and stalk him |
| 17:44.41 | scanlime | "I don't use gaim, but if I did I'd have this feature request..." |
| 17:44.46 | kergoth | haha |
| 17:44.48 | numist | ... |
| 17:44.51 | scanlime | hah |
| 17:44.52 | ChipX86 | which makes NO sense |
| 17:44.57 | numist | ChipX86: some people aren't very bright, are they |
| 17:45.03 | numist | someone is just looking for a scapegoat |
| 17:45.19 | ChipX86 | This is the main issue: it freaks me out that someone can track me down and obtain every single screen names I use or used to have. Then the big problem is that my privacy and security (as well as others) becomes at stake. |
| 17:45.24 | ChipX86 | numist: most people aren't very bright :P |
| 17:45.41 | numist | ChipX86: yeah, but I keep hoping that the ones I havent met make up for the ones I have :/ |
| 17:45.46 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 17:45.58 | kergoth | pfft, you clearly arent bitter and cynical enough |
| 17:45.59 | numist | and every person I meet just winds up depressing me further |
| 17:46.01 | kergoth | :P |
| 17:46.05 | numist | kergoth: bah |
| 17:46.57 | kergoth | hmm, now i get to play with multilink ppp. should be pretty painless from what i remember doing ppp at digi |
| 17:48.00 | ChipX86 | oh |
| 17:48.08 | ChipX86 | gnome release party at the Cheesecake Factory tomorrow around 7\ |
| 17:48.11 | ChipX86 | scanlime: want to go? |
| 17:48.22 | scanlime | hmm! which cheesecake factory? |
| 17:48.32 | ChipX86 | downtown Palo Alto |
| 17:48.44 | ChipX86 | yeah, but I'm technically not either |
| 17:49.09 | ChipX86 | the one we have here is on University, if you haven't been there yet |
| 17:49.33 | scanlime | ooh, big scary smiley dude on gnome.org |
| 17:49.36 | ChipX86 | our release party last year was a bit tiny, but fun |
| 17:49.43 | ChipX86 | haha |
| 17:50.33 | ChipX86 | mmm.. I thought the software was excellent on my old phone. They've upgraded it since for the new ones, and polished a lot of things up nicely |
| 17:50.35 | scanlime | hmm.. so 2.12 is coming out already? |
| 17:50.39 | ChipX86 | yep |
| 17:50.44 | kergoth | ChipX86: what phone did you get? |
| 17:50.49 | ChipX86 | Sanyo MM-8300 |
| 17:50.58 | ChipX86 | they Just Work and do so nicely, though no bluetooth or anything |
| 17:51.03 | ChipX86 | which I realized I don't care about that much |
| 17:51.29 | kergoth | gotcha |
| 17:51.30 | kergoth | thats cool |
| 17:51.38 | kergoth | i really do need bt, i use it regularly |
| 17:51.39 | kergoth | hrm |
| 17:51.52 | scanlime | oooh |
| 17:51.57 | ChipX86 | I hear Sanyo will be coming out with ones with bluetooth, but who knows when |
| 17:52.01 | ChipX86 | I just wanted a good phone that works |
| 17:55.17 | ChipX86 | awesome |
| 17:55.21 | ChipX86 | no new bugs assigned over the weekend |
| 17:55.24 | kergoth | yay |
| 17:55.37 | kergoth | criminey does checking out a 1.1 gig tree take a while, even from an svk mirror |
| 17:55.51 | kergoth | this is the real disadvantage to svk.. how many copies of this 1.1 gig tree do i _really_ need hanging around.. |
| 17:55.53 | kergoth | hehe |
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| 18:03.35 | ChipX86 | Cae!! |
| 18:03.40 | Cae | heh |
| 18:04.09 | ChipX86 | damn you SuSE |
| 18:04.13 | ChipX86 | every weird bug is because of you |
| 18:04.54 | Cae | bleh. |
| 18:05.59 | Cae | well, I was going to introduce Steve to Jim, but they already know each other, so that is moot..hmm. |
| 18:06.02 | Cae | who else do I know.. |
| 18:07.14 | Cae | for lack of ability to find myself someone, I'm reverting to looking for people for other people. *shrug* |
| 18:07.23 | kergoth | .. |
| 18:07.23 | ChipX86 | :) |
| 18:07.43 | Cae | kergoth: what? |
| 18:09.03 | Cae | which one? |
| 18:09.11 | kergoth | the lack of ability thing |
| 18:09.18 | kergoth | damnit, i cant decide what phone to get |
| 18:09.25 | kergoth | i keep reading bad reviews of the razr |
| 18:09.28 | kergoth | and i still want bt |
| 18:09.32 | Cae | oh. there's no one that I know of locally that I'd consider dating. and I don't do long distance. |
| 18:09.35 | kergoth | and a clamshell formfactor, so nokia is out |
| 18:09.45 | Cae | largely because my intentions include physical aspects. |
| 18:09.57 | kergoth | long distance is _horrible_ |
| 18:10.03 | kergoth | and can only be temporary |
| 18:10.03 | Cae | that also. |
| 18:10.22 | Cae | but in any case, there's no one around here that I know that I'd even consider dating, or sleeping with. |
| 18:10.29 | kergoth | well, thats unfortunate |
| 18:10.40 | Cae | indeed. |
| 18:10.42 | scanlime | join the club :P |
| 18:11.01 | Cae | scanlime: quiet you. I just got some old tendencies renewed. |
| 18:12.12 | Cae | well..currently.. |
| 18:12.23 | scanlime | heh |
| 18:12.27 | Cae | I want either a relationship, or something wholly uncomplicated and physical |
| 18:12.36 | Cae | and I'm not sure which I'd prefer right now |
| 18:13.02 | kergoth | there's something to be said for the latter. better than nothing, and as its been said, sex isn't at all like riding a bicycle |
| 18:13.04 | ChipX86 | you should wait a while, considering you just left one relationship. Give yourself time to figure out what you want |
| 18:13.05 | kergoth | :P |
| 18:13.09 | scanlime | uncomplicated can be tricky sometimes.. |
| 18:13.20 | Cae | scanlime: exactly |
| 18:13.42 | Cae | ChipX86: I already know what I want |
| 18:14.03 | kergoth | i dont think i've ever met a woman who does. they all just think they do |
| 18:14.04 | kergoth | :P |
| 18:14.32 | ChipX86 | http://earth.google.com/images/kat.jpg |
| 18:14.34 | Cae | kergoth: then consider it a process of elimination. I know what I don't want. |
| 18:15.37 | Cae | which, considering the length of that list, is sufficient to narrow down the field |
| 18:15.41 | kergoth | i'm actually pretty happy with my gf, despite her being completely not my type |
| 18:15.42 | kergoth | hehe |
| 18:15.53 | kergoth | hrm, svk doesnt appear to obey svn:externals |
| 18:15.55 | ChipX86 | I'm happy with mine |
| 18:16.29 | *** join/#tacobeam orchid_ (n=bzgirl@unaffiliated/orchid) |
| 18:16.49 | ChipX86 | :( |
| 18:16.54 | kergoth | :( |
| 18:16.58 | ChipX86 | bbs |
| 18:17.07 | scanlime | wow.. vmware's UI killed, and took my snapshot with it |
| 18:17.11 | scanlime | s/killed/died/ |
| 18:17.13 | scanlime | mmyep |
| 18:17.29 | kergoth | http://kergoth.com/images/nikki/nikki8.scaled.jpg .. sweet and innocent and kind and totally not what i was looking for |
| 18:17.32 | kergoth | heh |
| 18:21.40 | Cae | she reminds me of a friend of mine down here :) |
| 18:22.02 | kergoth | hmmm, http://www.expansys-usa.com/product.asp?code=6260 |
| 18:22.26 | scanlime | why does everyone have to be so far away? |
| 18:22.41 | Cae | scanlime: because you chose to live where you live |
| 18:22.46 | kergoth | because life sucks, and then you die |
| 18:22.48 | scanlime | exactly... |
| 18:23.17 | scanlime | :) |
| 18:24.14 | kergoth | i went a good _2 years_ without sex when i was in texas. by choice, no doubt some self imposed punishment or something :P |
| 18:24.29 | Cae | I'm going nuts. |
| 18:24.40 | *** join/#tacobeam JeffM2501 (n=JeffM@pdpc/supporter/sustaining/JeffM2501) |
| 18:24.52 | Cae | and not enjoying it |
| 18:37.09 | scanlime | I just need to find new ways to meet people |
| 18:38.09 | scanlime | doesn't help that I've been really antisocial for the last week or two |
| 18:38.30 | darth_mall | scanlime: throw yourself in front of cars in front of your apartment ^^ |
| 18:38.38 | darth_mall | that's an excellent way to meet people |
| 18:38.55 | scanlime | I think the only people I'd meet around this apartment would be Indian couples with hundreds of screaming children :P |
| 18:39.13 | darth_mall | well, then do it at the nearest highway ^^ |
| 18:39.19 | scanlime | ok |
| 18:39.28 | darth_mall | *lots* of people use the highway |
| 18:39.54 | *** join/#tacobeam pagefault (n=pagefaul@pdpc/supporter/active/pagefault) |
| 18:39.56 | pagefault | hey |
| 18:41.19 | scanlime | darth_mall: you should know that would be *especially* insane with california drivers... |
| 18:41.24 | kergoth | bah, svk needs tos upport svn:externals |
| 18:41.55 | pagefault | kergoth how about a macro that casts the lesser rank of any spell |
| 18:42.00 | pagefault | if there is not enough mana |
| 18:42.05 | pagefault | like if I try to cast rank 8 shadow bolt |
| 18:42.08 | pagefault | but I have not enough mana |
| 18:42.15 | scanlime | how about a macro that plays the entire game automatically? |
| 18:42.21 | pagefault | it chooses a lower rank that uses less mana |
| 18:42.25 | kergoth | i'm pretty sure one of those already exists :) i'll play with the ones that do and see which work best |
| 18:42.40 | scanlime | or you could port sysv-style init scripts to WoW |
| 18:42.42 | pagefault | I need to do one that auto life taps when I don't have enough |
| 18:42.45 | scanlime | or write a python interpreter in lua |
| 18:42.46 | kergoth | hehe |
| 18:43.06 | scanlime | you could write a genetic algorithm simulator for Wow |
| 18:43.09 | scanlime | or maybe a WoW spreadsheet |
| 18:43.25 | pagefault | hehe |
| 18:43.27 | pagefault | make CIA support WoW |
| 18:43.27 | scanlime | someday WoW will flawlessly import data from Excel, and everyone will switch to it |
| 18:43.34 | pagefault | so whenever I pick up an item or level it reports it here |
| 18:43.35 | kergoth | pagefault: i need that for my earth shock. as a shaman, it does spell interruption even if its a low rank, just less damage.. and damnit,w hen i need to interrupt, i need to interrupt, low mana or no |
| 18:43.41 | scanlime | pagefault: no, make the CIA server run inside WoW |
| 18:43.46 | scanlime | does WoW have a web server yet? |
| 18:43.58 | darth_mall | scanlime: an equally insane method of meeting people in california is to pick one random club/bar a week and go make a total fool of yourself there |
| 18:43.58 | scanlime | I'm sure WoW must have SQL already... |
| 18:44.02 | pagefault | not yet but I am sure it's being done |
| 18:44.07 | kergoth | scanlime: addons cant communicate via the network (other than chat channels in wow) or read/write flies directly |
| 18:44.08 | scanlime | darth_mall: hah |
| 18:44.11 | pagefault | right now I think most addons store data in XML files |
| 18:44.22 | scanlime | darth_mall: yes... I think I'm already tired of bars, and I've only been to a few |
| 18:44.24 | darth_mall | dance like Chris Katan in Night at the Roxbury, sing karaoke like Zapp Brannigan... |
| 18:44.31 | kergoth | all an addon can do is set a global variable, and flag that variable as one to 'save' in a .lua file that gets restored on start |
| 18:44.43 | darth_mall | scanlime: but have you gone to any *karaoke* bars? |
| 18:44.44 | pagefault | I need an addon that makes me win all the time |
| 18:44.47 | pagefault | that is your project |
| 18:44.52 | kergoth | so you can have a seperate daemon monitor the saved variables .lua, and use that as a communication mechanism between the addon and the daemon |
| 18:44.53 | kergoth | hehe |
| 18:44.58 | scanlime | darth_mall: not yet.. there's one around here that I thought was closed, but apparently isn't |
| 18:45.04 | scanlime | darth_mall: it's some kind of sake karaoke disco bar |
| 18:45.06 | darth_mall | gogogogogogogogo |
| 18:45.10 | darth_mall | =D |
| 18:45.24 | scanlime | I told myself I'd have to see what it's like next time I'm actually in the mood for a bar |
| 18:45.26 | darth_mall | you can't go wrong with a sake-karaoke-disco bar! |
| 18:45.32 | kergoth | hehe |
| 18:46.26 | scanlime | sunday night there were a bunch of high-school-looking kids wandering Murphy Avenue |
| 18:46.30 | scanlime | and several had limos |
| 18:46.50 | scanlime | there were a lot of them lined up outside some club with no identifiable signage |
| 18:47.00 | scanlime | no idea what that was about |
| 18:47.16 | scanlime | I've seen similar happenings on a couple Saturday nights the last several weeks |
| 18:47.18 | darth_mall | probably a 16+ club |
| 18:47.24 | scanlime | nod |
| 18:47.34 | scanlime | but where did they all come from? |
| 18:47.42 | scanlime | sunnyvale isn't exactly a hip place to party |
| 18:47.55 | darth_mall | scanlime: it is if you're 16 and it has a club that will let you in ;) |
| 18:47.58 | scanlime | :) |
| 18:48.06 | scanlime | I think it was for the free parking |
| 18:48.22 | scanlime | murphy avenue, sunnyvales' 0.5 blocks of real downtown, is right next to an abandoned mall |
| 18:48.26 | scanlime | big parking lot |
| 18:48.59 | scanlime | well, it's actually mostly parking for Macy's |
| 18:49.06 | scanlime | but it's way bigger than it needs to be |
| 18:49.17 | scanlime | everything other than the Macy's is boarded up and under intermittent construction |
| 18:49.35 | scanlime | there's also a crazy two-story Target there |
| 18:49.39 | scanlime | with something like four parking garages |
| 18:49.42 | scanlime | only one of which is open |
| 18:50.14 | scanlime | it's great reading all the BS from the sunnyvale government on how they've revitalized the town center with public open spaces and giant statues of fruit, and shit like that |
| 18:50.21 | scanlime | the place is kind of a wasteland now |
| 18:51.28 | scanlime | lots of abandoned office space there too |
| 18:51.45 | scanlime | there's a giant building with a Broadcom sign on it.. at least the lower levels look completely empty |
| 18:51.56 | darth_mall | mmm -- giant fruit statues |
| 18:52.14 | darth_mall | Broadcom as in the company that made my ethernet card? |
| 18:52.28 | kergoth | theres a giant statue of a spoon with a cherry in it in downtown minneapolis |
| 18:52.30 | kergoth | i'm not really sure why |
| 18:53.00 | scanlime | darth_mall: yeah, they also make the CPU that's in the wrt54g |
| 18:53.13 | kergoth | heh, broadcom is rather infamous |
| 18:53.24 | scanlime | darth_mall: it's easy to find familiar tech companies around here... there's a big Sega building in SF :) |
| 18:53.26 | kergoth | in the open source community, at any rate |
| 18:53.35 | darth_mall | yay Sega! |
| 18:53.40 | darth_mall | scanlime: you should go visit them |
| 18:53.46 | scanlime | I walked right by them |
| 18:53.50 | darth_mall | go in and say hi |
| 18:53.57 | scanlime | they had kind of a "modernized" version of the Sega logo on their building |
| 18:54.00 | darth_mall | congratulate them on Sonics 1-3 ^^ |
| 18:54.06 | scanlime | it was kind of late at night, doubt anyone was there |
| 18:54.07 | numist | :P |
| 18:54.12 | scanlime | I should have left a note on the door |
| 18:54.26 | scanlime | "Hi Sega! Thanks for Sonic 1-3! --Anonymous Benefactor and Game Enthusiast" |
| 18:54.29 | darth_mall | "great job on sonic 1, 2, and 3. WTF happened after that?" |
| 18:54.35 | kergoth | heeh |
| 18:54.38 | scanlime | :) |
| 18:55.00 | darth_mall | dammit, I need to stop tuning out during this class |
| 19:09.09 | nullpuppy | damn, bob denver passed away |
| 19:13.27 | ChipX86 | http://www.geekzone.co.nz/content.asp?contentid=5142 |
| 19:13.32 | ChipX86 | I so badly want to see one of those in person |
| 19:13.37 | ChipX86 | nullpuppy: :( |
| 19:13.54 | ChipX86 | lots of good people getting old |
| 19:14.17 | scanlime | ooh |
| 19:14.47 | ChipX86 | scanlime: yay! |
| 19:15.14 | scanlime | VMDB is all out of sync with itself while restoring a checkpoint.. grr |
| 19:15.21 | ChipX86 | yep |
| 19:15.53 | ChipX86 | what are you trying to do? |
| 19:16.06 | scanlime | well, I need to know whether a USB device is already connected |
| 19:16.21 | ChipX86 | I hate pointers. Let's rewrite the monitor in java. --Michel |
| 19:16.27 | scanlime | the problem happens when the USB subsystem hits its checkpoint restore |
| 19:16.35 | scanlime | :) |
| 19:19.00 | scanlime | ChipX86: Dustin has a cute toy.. Atmel Butterfly |
| 19:19.06 | ChipX86 | what is it? |
| 19:19.25 | scanlime | ChipX86: it's a $20 board with an ATMega microcontroller, LCD, buttons, battery, light sensor, beeper, and some other I/Os |
| 19:19.38 | scanlime | good board for getting started with microcontroller programming, or adding a cheap interface to something |
| 19:19.43 | ChipX86 | neat |
| 19:19.45 | scanlime | it's really small and cute |
| 19:19.52 | ChipX86 | for $20, it has all that? |
| 19:20.00 | ChipX86 | ahh, I see |
| 19:20.09 | scanlime | yep. it's probably subsidized a bit so they can get people interested in coding for their hardware |
| 19:20.13 | scanlime | like the free samples |
| 19:20.17 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 19:20.22 | ChipX86 | which, btw, I've never received from any company |
| 19:20.26 | scanlime | hah |
| 19:20.35 | scanlime | you need to find an ice cream manufacturer that ships free samples |
| 19:21.11 | scanlime | hmm.. which video game systems, if any, do you have? |
| 19:21.27 | ChipX86 | modern? |
| 19:21.32 | scanlime | any |
| 19:21.37 | scanlime | I'm just curious |
| 19:21.43 | ChipX86 | Gamecube, PS2, NES, Atari 2600, IntelliVision I and II |
| 19:21.50 | scanlime | nice |
| 19:22.05 | ChipX86 | but only the Gamecube and PS2 are even out of boxes and usable |
| 19:22.09 | ChipX86 | oh, and Pong |
| 19:22.13 | scanlime | :) |
| 19:22.21 | ChipX86 | (er, Pong isn't usable) |
| 19:22.57 | scanlime | wonder what it would take to get progressive scan output from an NES... |
| 19:23.45 | ChipX86 | oh yeah, I have two GBAs (one's an SP) |
| 19:23.52 | ChipX86 | and, somewhere, an old classic Gameboy |
| 19:23.53 | scanlime | ooh, GBA |
| 19:23.59 | scanlime | there are lots of systems I need to tinker with |
| 19:24.02 | scanlime | especially the GC |
| 19:24.26 | scanlime | there's the old PSO hack... plus someone came up with a way to use an Action Replay and an SD card to load code onto it |
| 19:24.29 | scanlime | it's really cute actually |
| 19:24.35 | scanlime | the GC memory cards and SD cards both use SPI |
| 19:24.38 | scanlime | so he made an adaptor |
| 19:24.50 | scanlime | then he bootstraps some code on the SD card using a rather long Action Replay code |
| 19:25.50 | scanlime | hmm |
| 19:26.07 | scanlime | makes me wonder how many ethernet-friendly games could be turned into simple bootloaders with a handful of Action Replay codes |
| 19:31.32 | ChipX86 | neat :) |
| 19:31.39 | ChipX86 | what would you do on the GC? |
| 19:31.45 | scanlime | no idea |
| 19:32.14 | scanlime | if it was a little more powerful it might make a decent HTPC |
| 19:32.23 | scanlime | wonder if freevo and such would run on the xbox actually... |
| 19:32.42 | scanlime | it even has USB, so I should be able to make the mi6k work with it |
| 19:33.21 | scanlime | I'm going to have to look into that possibility before buying a setup like purple_cow's |
| 19:33.52 | ChipX86 | xbmc would run |
| 19:33.57 | ChipX86 | it's basically Media Portal for X-Box |
| 19:34.17 | ChipX86 | media portal/xbmc is C# and GPL |
| 19:34.30 | scanlime | hmmmm |
| 19:34.32 | ChipX86 | (I think xbmc is anyway.. media portal started as a port to standard windows boxes) |
| 19:34.57 | scanlime | see, that would be the easy way out |
| 19:35.29 | scanlime | much more frustrating.. er.. fun.. to build your own around a heavily modified freevo |
| 19:35.34 | ChipX86 | heh yaeh |
| 19:35.51 | ChipX86 | I wanted to write my own software, which would have been the really hard way, but there just wasn't any time |
| 19:36.03 | ChipX86 | but, mmm.. pvr software based on the enlightenment libs.. |
| 19:36.10 | scanlime | I still want to write my own |
| 19:36.18 | scanlime | and purple_cow and folks are doing a UI as their senior project |
| 19:36.31 | ChipX86 | that's so cool |
| 19:36.37 | scanlime | mostly I want the backend to be more separate from the UI, and based on a filesystem concept |
| 19:36.39 | ChipX86 | fun project |
| 19:36.43 | scanlime | it would actually be event driven, much like FAM or gamin |
| 19:36.48 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 19:36.51 | scanlime | so you 'open' a directory/file, and start receiving events on it |
| 19:37.03 | scanlime | might be events indicating that child objects exist, or events carrying metadata |
| 19:37.13 | scanlime | mainly I don't ever want to have to wait on the UI |
| 19:38.01 | scanlime | if I decide I'm in the wrong directory, I just hit 'back' or whatever and the UI can instantly close that directory and open the parent- the worker thread can cleanly terminate and all that on its own time |
| 19:38.17 | ChipX86 | yaeh |
| 19:38.20 | ChipX86 | wow I can't type that today |
| 19:38.32 | scanlime | and since metadata loading is asynchronous, it can display a file list without waiting on mmpython to fetch every detail about the file |
| 19:38.44 | scanlime | but things like icons and summaries and thumbnails will come in as they're loaded |
| 19:38.58 | scanlime | best of all, I want this to have union mounts built in :) |
| 19:39.17 | scanlime | the backend should be able to merge locally stored content plus stuff on any number of file servers |
| 19:41.04 | ChipX86 | ok, I'm going to get libsexymm working here. |
| 19:42.50 | pagefault | sexy |
| 19:43.02 | kergoth | god i hate debt. just had to pay like $537 to pay off my old account from a jewelers from a gift i bought for nikki |
| 19:43.03 | kergoth | heh |
| 19:43.39 | pagefault | :( |
| 19:43.42 | pagefault | girls are expensive |
| 19:43.52 | scanlime | s/girls/debt/ |
| 19:43.58 | scanlime | s/are/is/ |
| 19:44.00 | kergoth | both, actually |
| 19:44.02 | scanlime | s/expensive/sucky/ |
| 19:44.16 | scanlime | s/both, actually/I love monkeys!/ |
| 19:44.19 | pagefault | i'd rather have a set of nice LCD panels than a silly rock |
| 19:44.37 | kergoth | you and me both man |
| 19:44.38 | kergoth | heh |
| 19:45.08 | pagefault | oh well |
| 19:45.21 | pagefault | "but it's a liquid CRYSTAL display" |
| 19:45.29 | kergoth | hehe |
| 19:46.13 | pagefault | they did some nice upgrades here over the summer |
| 19:46.26 | pagefault | entire 100 PC lab now has 20" or something LCD panels |
| 19:46.34 | nullpuppy | damnit /me needs some motivation |
| 19:47.03 | scanlime | ahh.. I think that fixed it |
| 19:47.08 | scanlime | yay for not trusting VMDB |
| 19:47.26 | nullpuppy | what is VMDB? |
| 19:47.39 | scanlime | it is the enemy! |
| 19:47.43 | nullpuppy | yay! |
| 19:50.49 | nullpuppy | hmm, evil question that someone here may know... are there any usable encryption/hash features in .net? |
| 19:50.54 | nullpuppy | or should I look elsewhere? |
| 19:51.29 | scanlime | I know it does at least MD5 and such |
| 19:51.59 | nullpuppy | any idea where it is? |
| 19:52.23 | scanlime | google? |
| 19:52.39 | nullpuppy | hehe, yeah, yeah .. :) I wanted to be lazy :) |
| 19:52.42 | scanlime | or better yet, MSDN :P |
| 19:52.46 | nullpuppy | :) |
| 19:53.00 | pagefault | hehe |
| 19:53.02 | pagefault | it supports SHA1 too |
| 19:53.18 | pagefault | HashClass |
| 20:01.27 | scanlime | hmm |
| 20:01.37 | scanlime | most OSes really don't like having a USB device disappear then immediately reappear |
| 20:06.21 | kergoth | heh |
| 20:09.55 | nullpuppy | hrm, stupid .net doesn't actually provide a simple premade class to use, instead, it gives you stuff to make it do what its supposed to, *sigh* |
| 20:10.12 | scanlime | ? |
| 20:10.51 | nullpuppy | instead of doing something simple like having a premade GetMD5(string); you have to build it yourself, creating a few more objects |
| 20:10.57 | nullpuppy | its not hard, just an annoyance |
| 20:15.10 | CIA-5 | osiris-misc: 03chipx86 * r209 10libsexy/ (ChangeLog configure.ac libsexy/sexy-spell-entry.c): Only enable the spell checking aspects of SexySpellEntry if enchant is actually installed. |
| 20:21.25 | pagefault | the lab here is giving away 17" monitors with 5 cans of food |
| 20:22.34 | numist | scanlime, ChipX86: when do you guys historically eat lunch? |
| 20:22.43 | scanlime | what's lunch? |
| 20:22.43 | ChipX86 | whenever |
| 20:22.52 | numist | scanlime: fuki friday :) |
| 20:22.57 | scanlime | :P |
| 20:23.06 | ChipX86 | there's no concept of "lunch break" or anything |
| 20:23.14 | numist | oh yeah, ChipX86, will fuki be open? I recall that they were closed last time I was there |
| 20:23.19 | ChipX86 | oh. |
| 20:23.23 | ChipX86 | Friday, should be |
| 20:23.26 | ChipX86 | we tried on a weekend |
| 20:23.31 | numist | right |
| 20:23.41 | ChipX86 | scanlime and I got some food there on a Friday not long ago |
| 20:24.09 | numist | excellent |
| 20:24.52 | pagefault | haha ok I am bringing in like 15 cans |
| 20:24.52 | pagefault | and get 3 free monitors |
| 20:24.55 | kergoth | why cant i seem to find a cell phone that meets my needs? |
| 20:25.02 | kergoth | i really dont need that much |
| 20:25.09 | numist | pagefault: Ive got monitors Im trying to get rid of... |
| 20:25.20 | numist | got a 17" and a 20-something inch |
| 20:25.22 | ChipX86 | kergoth: I've realizedt hat companies have some weird interest in making products that are far from perfect |
| 20:25.28 | pagefault | i'd take them off your hands but I have no idea what shipping would be |
| 20:25.32 | numist | the larger doesnt display any red though... not sure what the problem is |
| 20:25.35 | ChipX86 | they could easily make good software combined with bluetooth and good battery and such |
| 20:25.38 | ChipX86 | in a flip phone |
| 20:25.44 | numist | pagefault: Ill just pack them when I go up there :P |
| 20:25.44 | ChipX86 | but no, it has to be all but one key thing in each phone |
| 20:25.51 | pagefault | haha cool |
| 20:26.07 | numist | pagefault: I'm kidding.. I have no idea how to ship them :/ |
| 20:26.15 | numist | ChipX86: thats always the way, like the women on IRC quote |
| 20:26.20 | scanlime | ChipX86: it's because carriers are the real customers to the phone manufacturers, not the end users |
| 20:27.18 | scanlime | :) |
| 20:27.18 | ChipX86 | I really hope that's the actual name of it, because that would rock |
| 20:27.18 | pagefault | hehe |
| 20:27.18 | kergoth | all i want is a GSM phone, bluetooth, flip/clamshell formfactor, running symbian or something |
| 20:27.18 | kergoth | and if it looks good, thats a bonus |
| 20:27.33 | numist | kergoth: nah, I want an ugly phone, so no one will steal it |
| 20:27.40 | kergoth | hehe |
| 20:27.42 | scanlime | I want a phone running Windows XP Media Center Edition |
| 20:27.58 | kergoth | i saw a phone running wince earlier, and i winced |
| 20:28.12 | numist | I want a phone thats capable of running winxp media center edition though... thats some power there |
| 20:28.15 | purple_cow | numist: uhh |
| 20:28.15 | scanlime | lots of phones run wince |
| 20:28.16 | ChipX86 | I want a phone that starts up with a white on blue BASIC terminal |
| 20:28.19 | file | my phone runs WinCE |
| 20:28.31 | ChipX86 | I found a basic interpreter for my phone :) |
| 20:28.32 | scanlime | ChipX86: =D |
| 20:28.35 | kergoth | i dont trust it. give me symbian or linux |
| 20:28.36 | numist | haha |
| 20:28.37 | kergoth | heh |
| 20:28.43 | numist | Im in kergoth's camp |
| 20:28.46 | purple_cow | numist: you do know what that means, right? |
| 20:28.47 | file | it works great! |
| 20:28.48 | scanlime | you'd trust linux on a phone? |
| 20:28.59 | scanlime | any phone software manufacturer that uses linux doesn't know how to write usable software |
| 20:29.04 | numist | purple_cow: yes, but I never mean it that awy |
| 20:29.09 | numist | purple_cow: I prefer real cream pies |
| 20:29.16 | kergoth | scanlime: well, i know the kernel will be good.. i worked on them at ti ;) |
| 20:29.19 | scanlime | it's not that you couldn't make a usable phone OS with linux, but I haven't seen anyone do it |
| 20:29.23 | scanlime | nod |
| 20:29.23 | numist | scanlime: but then you could write the software yourself :) |
| 20:29.32 | scanlime | been there done that |
| 20:29.33 | kergoth | you should see some of the badass upcoming japanese phones.. yummy |
| 20:29.34 | scanlime | it's no fun |
| 20:29.38 | numist | sucks? write something better! |
| 20:30.38 | file | son of a |
| 20:30.51 | file | our rate management intranet can't bring up this one specific plan because it's too big... bastard |
| 20:30.54 | kergoth | nokia has some cool phones.. i found one i like.. hmmm... |
| 20:31.22 | kergoth | i could pick up the phone from expansys, unlocked, and call and order a SIM from ccingular |
| 20:31.59 | scanlime | can you generally just buy unlocked phones, or do you have to do it yourself? |
| 20:32.14 | kergoth | you can buy them unlocked, often from the manufacturer that way |
| 20:32.22 | file | costs an arm and a leg though |
| 20:32.25 | kergoth | t-mobile will actually unlock your phone for you |
| 20:32.31 | kergoth | once you've had their ser vice for 1.5 years |
| 20:32.37 | kergoth | (so they've recovered the loss they took on the phone) |
| 20:32.39 | kergoth | which is pretty cool |
| 20:32.54 | numist | that is cool |
| 20:33.09 | numist | scanlime: if you want, my dad works in the industry and I know people that can unlock your phone for you |
| 20:33.26 | numist | we do a lot of prepaid/postpaid and hacking phones to do either or both |
| 20:33.31 | kergoth | i like the idea of having it unlocked, being able to just pick up a prepaid SIM when you're going to another country.. |
| 20:33.31 | scanlime | I've seen plenty of info on doing it yourself |
| 20:33.54 | numist | its not very difficult most times |
| 20:34.03 | ChipX86 | how does one do it typically? |
| 20:34.25 | scanlime | the motorolas are especially hackable.. you can really just go into their filesystem and swap out binaries with the manufacturer's stock firmware |
| 20:34.27 | ChipX86 | the Cingular guy told me that customer service will give me the code to type in to unlock the razr after I have the phone for a while |
| 20:34.35 | scanlime | I did that to uncripple the java networking on my phone |
| 20:34.38 | ChipX86 | so that sounds like it's very very easy to unlock |
| 20:34.48 | scanlime | ChipX86: you can also usually find those codes online :) |
| 20:35.02 | numist | ChipX86: its generally a code for the phone, you could probably hack it yourself if you cant find the code somewhere |
| 20:35.09 | ChipX86 | nod |
| 20:36.30 | ChipX86 | this should *not* be a big deal |
| 20:36.46 | numist | hehe, sounds like something that should be put into libsexy to make it easier later... what are you trying to do? |
| 20:36.56 | ChipX86 | I'm trying to set markup in a GtkEntry |
| 20:36.57 | ChipX86 | that simple. |
| 20:37.02 | numist | :o |
| 20:37.07 | ChipX86 | but unless I subclass it, I can't |
| 20:37.18 | file | you can sorta unlock CDMA phones too |
| 20:37.27 | file | just use the programming code to input new activation information |
| 20:37.34 | kergoth | http://www.expansys-usa.com/product.asp?code=116371 |
| 20:37.37 | kergoth | i'm seriously considering that one |
| 20:37.44 | kergoth | clamshell, gsm, bluetooth, nokia, symbian |
| 20:38.05 | file | and going to use it with Cingular? |
| 20:38.12 | scanlime | I need new glasses |
| 20:38.15 | kergoth | thats the idea, yep |
| 20:38.31 | file | won't have that good of coverage |
| 20:38.40 | file | Cingular uses the 850MHz and 1900MHz spectrums, that phone is only 1900MHz |
| 20:38.46 | kergoth | hmm |
| 20:38.53 | scanlime | you know you want t-mobile |
| 20:38.57 | scanlime | $5/month unlimited data! |
| 20:38.57 | ChipX86 | all phones suck |
| 20:39.16 | ChipX86 | I'm happy enough with Sprint. I'm actually able to talk on the phone here and in Chico without wanting to kill the compan |
| 20:39.18 | file | I have to say I'm a CDMA person |
| 20:39.20 | kergoth | file: isnt 850 that oddball US only thing? |
| 20:39.20 | ChipX86 | y |
| 20:39.25 | file | kergoth: US and Canada |
| 20:39.28 | kergoth | nod |
| 20:39.37 | file | we have 850MHz GSM heavily deployed here |
| 20:39.43 | file | it has good building penetration |
| 20:40.30 | file | if you're getting a 1900MHz phone you'd probably be best to go with T-Mobile, they only deploy 1900MHz |
| 20:40.35 | kergoth | t-mobile disables 850 on the quad band phones they sell, eh |
| 20:40.52 | file | or you can cheat and get prepaid sims for each and try them both :) |
| 20:40.53 | kergoth | i already have a t-mobile phone, could just swap my sim over and call and change to a minnesota number (its texas currently) |
| 20:40.59 | ToyKeeper | eh? |
| 20:41.02 | file | yeah |
| 20:41.09 | ToyKeeper | I have a quad-band t-mobile phone. |
| 20:41.22 | scanlime | pretty sure mine is quad-band too |
| 20:41.24 | kergoth | t-mobile doesnt use 850, this site says they disable it on their quad band phones |
| 20:41.31 | scanlime | actually, don't ToyKeeper and I have the same phone? |
| 20:41.36 | ToyKeeper | Yup. |
| 20:41.40 | file | it's probably... 900, 1800, and 1900 |
| 20:42.00 | kergoth | "WARNING : T-mobile disables the 850 MHz band in the quad band phones it sells. For this reason, you should not buy any quad band phone from T-mobile without getting full formal confirmation from them beforehand that the phone has all four bands fully operational." |
| 20:42.04 | kergoth | intresting |
| 20:42.17 | ToyKeeper | It has settings for automatic, 850/1900, and 900/1800. |
| 20:42.25 | ToyKeeper | I don't have any way to test whether 850 is enabled though. |
| 20:42.26 | kergoth | ToyKeeper, scanlime: what phone do you guys have? |
| 20:42.32 | file | k, they might use it when in Canada for roaming |
| 20:42.52 | ToyKeeper | I've got a motorola v188. |
| 20:43.26 | ChipX86 | gah |
| 20:43.32 | file | yeah your phone has the capability, but T-Mobile doesn't use that spectrum :) I dunno why not... it's better |
| 20:43.33 | ChipX86 | another person in #vmware thinking that it's run by the company |
| 20:43.33 | kergoth | well fuck motorola then, the razr has shitty reviews, bad software.. i'm going with the nokia |
| 20:43.46 | file | here in Canada we started out with 1900MHz, it failed miserably so they used some of their 850MHz spectrum, rocks now |
| 20:43.56 | ToyKeeper | It's a decent phone, but has the worst built-in browser ever, and is buggy if you plug it into a computer. |
| 20:44.02 | scanlime | ChipX86: yeah, the topic still says otherwise :P |
| 20:44.09 | ChipX86 | nod |
| 20:46.15 | scanlime | a.k.a C-x TAB |
| 20:46.29 | scanlime | it's especially fun when you use negative repeat counts |
| 20:46.34 | scanlime | like ESC -8 C-x TAB |
| 20:46.51 | ToyKeeper | If I were to actually buy a phone (mine was free w/ service), I'd probably get a treo. |
| 20:47.27 | ChipX86 | I can't understand why people want to hold PDAs up to their ears |
| 20:47.42 | scanlime | yeah |
| 20:47.54 | scanlime | I could understand having a PDA phone if you only used it with a bluetooth headset |
| 20:48.05 | file | I use mine with my bluetooth headset |
| 20:48.08 | ToyKeeper | Heh, it's just a matter of one device or several. :) |
| 20:48.25 | file | bluetooth is cooooool |
| 20:48.25 | ChipX86 | several. Less chance of them breaking all at once ;) |
| 20:48.27 | purple_cow | PDAs are silly anyway |
| 20:48.37 | purple_cow | the only real use for them is tickypip |
| 20:48.50 | nullpuppy | hehe |
| 20:48.58 | scanlime | I could use a phone with a keyboard and a bigger display, to make ssh easier :) |
| 20:49.00 | ChipX86 | purple_cow: yep |
| 20:49.01 | ChipX86 | :) |
| 20:49.14 | ChipX86 | I should rewrite that yet again in Java for my phone! |
| 20:49.29 | scanlime | ChipX86: if you have data service and java, you can ssh :) |
| 20:49.29 | file | ChipX86: the J word makes me unhappy :( |
| 20:49.45 | ChipX86 | scanlime: I do. I need an ssh client |
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| 20:49.51 | ChipX86 | file: Java! Yay! |
| 20:50.29 | purple_cow | you could change your last name to van der Java-Dude :P |
| 20:52.13 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10bzflag/plugins/python/ (PyBZFlag.cpp PyEvents.cpp PyTeam.cpp python.cpp): update to new data and enumeration names |
| 20:53.57 | kergoth | owie! |
| 20:54.03 | kergoth | look at the price of a nokia n90 http://www.expansys-usa.com/product.asp?code=121481 |
| 20:54.12 | kergoth | course that has a 2 megapixel camera and stuff |
| 20:54.14 | kergoth | but still, ow |
| 20:54.18 | ChipX86 | Stallman, you're an idiot. |
| 20:54.23 | ChipX86 | kergoth: wow |
| 20:57.32 | scanlime | =D =D =D |
| 20:57.39 | scanlime | they restocked the chai! |
| 20:57.54 | scanlime | and there was one bagel left |
| 20:57.59 | scanlime | I decided that it is now lunch |
| 20:58.11 | purple_cow | ChipX86: what about rms? |
| 20:58.22 | kergoth | mm, chai |
| 20:58.29 | Cae | okay..what did these idiots do and why.. |
| 20:58.54 | ChipX86 | purple_cow: his "You can't use GPL'd software if you have patents!" addition he wants to make to the GPL |
| 20:59.02 | purple_cow | urk |
| 20:59.10 | ChipX86 | so, like, we couldn't use gcc anymore |
| 20:59.17 | scanlime | haha |
| 20:59.31 | ChipX86 | "It's free software! Free for everybody, except the people I dislike." |
| 20:59.48 | scanlime | there go linux versions of pretty much anything commercial |
| 20:59.53 | ChipX86 | yep |
| 20:59.59 | ChipX86 | and Red Hat Linux |
| 21:00.02 | ChipX86 | Oracle |
| 21:00.03 | scanlime | yep |
| 21:00.04 | kergoth | i've taken to making stuff i really dont mind if someone uses in a commercial product, MIT licensed |
| 21:00.05 | purple_cow | scanlime: but that's OK! because free software is better anyways |
| 21:00.06 | kergoth | less headaches |
| 21:00.07 | kergoth | heh |
| 21:00.08 | ChipX86 | Novell Linux Desktop |
| 21:00.11 | ChipX86 | Beagle |
| 21:00.14 | ChipX86 | Mono |
| 21:00.15 | ChipX86 | it's all gone |
| 21:00.15 | scanlime | yeah |
| 21:00.21 | purple_cow | i imagine most people would use gpl2 if gpl3 had such a clause |
| 21:00.26 | kergoth | yeah |
| 21:00.35 | kergoth | but a lot of projects say "or later version at the user's choice" |
| 21:00.38 | scanlime | purple_cow: still, a lot of software has 'gpl2 or later' in the license |
| 21:00.38 | ChipX86 | I'm not worried because this is just what rms wants. He's insane, and most people seem to realize that |
| 21:00.42 | kergoth | scanlime: heh |
| 21:00.47 | CIA-5 | smrt: 03jupiter * r7 10docs/requirements/requirements.tex: add some more section headings |
| 21:00.54 | ChipX86 | scanlime: so we exercise the gpl2 |
| 21:01.02 | ChipX86 | rather than 3 |
| 21:01.09 | scanlime | hm, true |
| 21:01.17 | CIA-5 | smrt: 03jupiter * r8 10docs/requirements/: shush |
| 21:01.29 | scanlime | yeah, I don't expect gpl3 adoption will be widespread at this rate |
| 21:01.48 | kergoth | yay gorillaz |
| 21:01.55 | scanlime | our lawyers need to read that article on groklaw about how the GPL is a license, not a contract |
| 21:03.03 | scanlime | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:03.03 | scanlime | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:03.07 | scanlime | grr |
| 21:03.15 | scanlime | this function actually has the side-effect of disconnecting all USB devices |
| 21:03.22 | purple_cow | cool |
| 21:04.36 | darth_mall | that's the best kind of side-effect |
| 21:04.40 | kergoth | hehe |
| 21:05.43 | ChipX86 | gah |
| 21:05.54 | ChipX86 | our intern, who is leaving soon, just sent in his massive change for review.. |
| 21:06.03 | ChipX86 | and he obviously hasn't learned a lot of our style guidelines |
| 21:06.04 | scanlime | hehe |
| 21:06.10 | ChipX86 | unsigned i; |
| 21:06.22 | ChipX86 | lots of indentation issues |
| 21:06.43 | scanlime | it'd be handy to have a pre-made .emacs/vimrc that we give to interns to enforce our style rules |
| 21:06.47 | ChipX86 | littering vmuiLinux with files that don't belong there. Wrong style for the namespace |
| 21:06.58 | ChipX86 | yeah, but there's more than that |
| 21:07.02 | scanlime | nod |
| 21:07.03 | ChipX86 | tabs and such are fine |
| 21:07.08 | scanlime | vmlint (tm) |
| 21:07.12 | ChipX86 | but we have naming conventions, doc conventions |
| 21:07.13 | ChipX86 | yeah :) |
| 21:07.38 | scanlime | have our mail servers automatically bounce review requests that don't follow it |
| 21:07.44 | ChipX86 | haha |
| 21:08.10 | ChipX86 | hopefully I won't get fired for sharing this code snippet: |
| 21:08.15 | ChipX86 | other--; // Now other points to the row before i |
| 21:08.18 | ChipX86 | ... |
| 21:08.19 | ChipX86 | other++; // Now other points to the row after i |
| 21:08.21 | kergoth | heh, vim/emacs modelines should be in your template .c/.h files, and in all the existing ones |
| 21:08.26 | kergoth | ChipX86: hah |
| 21:08.35 | scanlime | wow |
| 21:08.48 | scanlime | kergoth: eh, no |
| 21:09.03 | numist | ChipX86: .... oh my god... |
| 21:09.08 | scanlime | I'm sure lots of people use editors that aren't vim or emacs.. and everyone has their own personal preferences anyway |
| 21:09.23 | numist | thats helpful commenting |
| 21:09.26 | scanlime | we don't exactly have template files, AFAIK |
| 21:10.35 | scanlime | ugh. I might need the guest OS config for this |
| 21:10.42 | kergoth | heh |
| 21:11.14 | kergoth | everyone has their personal preferences about what? |
| 21:11.21 | scanlime | editor configuration |
| 21:11.34 | scanlime | sure you could put indentation in each file, but that would never go over well here |
| 21:11.46 | kergoth | which has what to do with modelines? the modelines only affect the settings regarding indentation, not the rest of theirs |
| 21:11.52 | kergoth | generally speaking, anyway |
| 21:12.15 | kergoth | nod |
| 21:12.16 | scanlime | kergoth: the modelines you'd need would probably make our file heading about 4x as large ;) |
| 21:12.27 | kergoth | heh, ow |
| 21:12.49 | scanlime | it's just a copyright now, we don't have a standard way of describing each file's purpose.. it's kind of a shame actually |
| 21:12.57 | kergoth | thats too bad |
| 21:13.17 | kergoth | "vi: set et sts=4 sw=4" in my files is my best friend |
| 21:13.20 | kergoth | heh |
| 21:14.01 | scanlime | I guess my point is that when everyone's going to have 300 line dotfiles anyway, who cares about the modelines? |
| 21:14.06 | ChipX86 | ugh, he does all these str[0] - '0' stuff |
| 21:14.20 | ChipX86 | I have no idea what any of it is for, but I feel there's got to be a better way, whatever it is |
| 21:14.42 | ChipX86 | I assume it's to turn a string to an integer |
| 21:14.48 | purple_cow | Sophie197: are you sure this new death cab album isn't actually by the flaming lips? :P |
| 21:14.49 | kergoth | ew, that sounds like he's making assumptions that arent true in all character sets/locales. |
| 21:14.52 | ChipX86 | but then, why the first char only. That doesn't seem to scale |
| 21:15.21 | purple_cow | kergoth: there are character sets where the digits aren't 0-9? |
| 21:15.22 | purple_cow | :P |
| 21:15.49 | ChipX86 | it's more of a theoretical argument in this case |
| 21:15.54 | ChipX86 | but either way, this is not the right way to do it |
| 21:16.15 | kergoth | there are character sets where [a-z] can match both uppercase and lowercase. |
| 21:16.20 | kergoth | as an example of something similar |
| 21:16.34 | kergoth | thats why character match classes in regex exist |
| 21:16.40 | kergoth | assumptions like that just plain shouldnt be made |
| 21:20.05 | kergoth | </rant> |
| 21:20.09 | kergoth | :P |
| 21:22.25 | darth_mall | purple_cow: hehe. Except for the singer's voice, I think Death Cab sounds an awful lot like the Flaming Lips |
| 21:22.54 | darth_mall | ^^ |
| 21:25.41 | purple_cow | darth_mall: there are a lot of songs on plans where the voice is the same |
| 21:25.56 | purple_cow | at least if you compare plans and yoshimi |
| 21:28.13 | darth_mall | nope |
| 21:28.29 | darth_mall | purple_cow: was the first section of that requirements doc taken from the project description provided by Sun? |
| 21:28.46 | purple_cow | darth_mall: it's exactly the description provided by them |
| 21:29.12 | darth_mall | that's what I thought |
| 21:29.49 | CIA-5 | smrt: 03jupiter * r9 10docs/requirements/requirements.tex: make the hardware requirements look like the example, 'cuz why not |
| 21:32.10 | darth_mall | purple_cow: you use a ts of 4 in all the motion stuff, yes? |
| 21:32.45 | CIA-5 | smrt: 03jupiter * r10 10docs/requirements/requirements.tex: s/lircd/LIRC/ |
| 21:32.50 | purple_cow | darth_mall: for python? yes |
| 21:32.55 | darth_mall | k |
| 21:32.58 | purple_cow | and it's not ts, it's expandtab |
| 21:32.59 | purple_cow | so all spaces |
| 21:33.02 | darth_mall | right |
| 21:33.15 | darth_mall | but you still have to set the ts and sw |
| 21:33.26 | darth_mall | at least, if you want to use the Tab button |
| 21:33.34 | purple_cow | yeah |
| 21:33.41 | kergoth | you probably want sts=4 |
| 21:33.46 | kergoth | bleh, bored |
| 21:33.52 | kergoth | moving gigs of data from one drive to another |
| 21:34.53 | purple_cow | hah |
| 21:35.08 | purple_cow | unsurprisingly, about 90% of the contents of bruce's chapter on writing documents is stuff that LaTeX does for you |
| 21:35.32 | scanlime | I missed LaTeX so bad during my senior project :( |
| 21:35.56 | kergoth | i should play with latex sometime. never actually used it before |
| 21:35.59 | ChipX86 | this is such an unproductive day |
| 21:36.32 | ChipX86 | I hate this little period just after a beta and just before work starts picking up for a next beta and, though you have bugs, they're not doable until you get feedback on other things |
| 21:36.41 | purple_cow | scanlime: why? just your group's decision? |
| 21:36.45 | scanlime | nod |
| 21:36.54 | darth_mall | heh |
| 21:36.56 | scanlime | all MS WOord |
| 21:37.00 | darth_mall | it's been a while since I've written any python |
| 21:37.01 | scanlime | er.. how'd that happen? |
| 21:37.02 | scanlime | MS Word |
| 21:37.09 | purple_cow | i'm wondering how bad i'll end up feeling for this Daniel kid |
| 21:37.22 | purple_cow | "we're using all these tools you've never heard of before, have fun!" |
| 21:37.41 | scanlime | purple_cow: that's what senior projects should be like :) |
| 21:37.57 | darth_mall | purple_cow: he might have heard of them |
| 21:38.09 | purple_cow | well, yeah |
| 21:38.20 | purple_cow | i think tomorrow i get to give him a crash course on svn |
| 21:38.33 | scanlime | at least I got my group to use svn |
| 21:38.53 | scanlime | Christy got to really hating it though.. TortoiseSVN combined with her crappy laptop gave her lots of headache |
| 21:39.16 | scanlime | but it seemed like they were all kind of new at version control |
| 21:39.47 | scanlime | heh.. poor guys, your project group has no female members |
| 21:41.36 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03evan * r8857 10motion/py/Dance/ (. Sequence.py __init__.py): Beginnings of the shuffle nonsense. Just stubs at the moment. |
| 21:42.42 | scanlime | nod |
| 21:42.45 | scanlime | that's quite handy |
| 21:43.16 | scanlime | hmm.. |
| 21:44.39 | darth_mall | s/dired/tired/ |
| 21:44.44 | purple_cow | KDF? |
| 21:45.30 | darth_mall | Knowledge Discovery Framework or something |
| 21:45.40 | darth_mall | it's the webapp that Amer decided we needed to use for Software Engineering |
| 21:45.46 | purple_cow | cool |
| 21:45.52 | purple_cow | yet another one! |
| 21:45.57 | darth_mall | as opposed to Moodle or WebCT or any other tool that people use... |
| 21:46.13 | darth_mall | the best part is, I don't think I can disable e-mail notifications |
| 21:46.22 | scanlime | http://zero.navi.cx/~micah/sgt_short.jpg |
| 21:46.29 | darth_mall | their "Help" link just takes you straight to the message board that is sending me e-mails that I hate |
| 21:46.32 | scanlime | ^ something to look forward to |
| 21:46.40 | darth_mall | and I see nothing about configuring my account |
| 21:46.59 | darth_mall | scanlime: what's that? |
| 21:47.13 | scanlime | the result of our senior project |
| 21:47.20 | scanlime | also http://zero.navi.cx/~micah/dmm.jpg |
| 21:48.23 | darth_mall | hah |
| 21:48.58 | scanlime | 80% of the project is finding a name that makes it sound way cooler than it actually is ;) |
| 21:49.54 | pagefault | melts in your mouth |
| 21:50.04 | pagefault | not in your hand |
| 21:50.34 | pagefault | hmm |
| 21:50.59 | numist | wow, Im scared |
| 21:51.18 | darth_mall | numist: how come? |
| 21:51.26 | numist | Ive inadvertently made myself the database guy at work, and not only do I not really know all that much about T-SQL, but I dont particularly like it either |
| 21:51.43 | numist | but if something needs to be done to our software's db implementation, Im the one that does it now |
| 21:53.03 | scanlime | hah |
| 21:53.09 | scanlime | a NO_BULL flag ;) |
| 21:56.58 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03evan * r8858 10motion/py/Dance/ (ODE.py Systems.py): Add some files from Liz's class that we'll probably need. |
| 21:57.23 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03evan * r8859 10motion/py/Dance/: hush |
| 21:57.38 | darth_mall | egad |
| 21:57.43 | darth_mall | it's like I'm actually getting something done |
| 21:57.44 | darth_mall | sinful |
| 21:58.25 | Cae | back tomorrow :) 'night guys, sleep well |
| 22:00.02 | kergoth | woot, ordered that cell phone. also ordered those bt420 bluetooth headphones, a bodyglove case for the cell phone, a 512 mb RS MMC card for it, and screen protectors. |
| 22:00.13 | scanlime | and a pony? |
| 22:00.21 | kergoth | no pony :( |
| 22:00.43 | darth_mall | aww |
| 22:00.45 | darth_mall | but ponies rock |
| 22:00.55 | kergoth | i dont think expansys has ponies in stock |
| 22:01.02 | darth_mall | that's too bad |
| 22:01.03 | darth_mall | you should sue |
| 22:01.06 | kergoth | bastards! |
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| 22:29.09 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03evan * r8860 10motion/py/Dance/Sequence.py: More stubs as a design works itself out in my mind. |
| 22:32.24 | purple_cow | hmm, still no call from time warp |
| 22:34.01 | scanlime | am I the only one who gets eerie visions of Tim Curry's grinning face? |
| 22:39.09 | *** join/#tacobeam lurgy|work (n=dkuester@dlc75-99-dhcp.colorado.edu) |
| 22:41.07 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10bzflag/plugins/ (5 files in 3 dirs): remove uses of TextUtils, since it now uses regex and we dont' want to have it be all messy. |
| 22:56.46 | scanlime | ChipX86: I think the snapshot manager crashes on close if you revert while it's open |
| 22:57.01 | ChipX86 | yeah, I think it does |
| 22:57.08 | ChipX86 | I think that's on Joey's plate, but I doubt he's even looked at it |
| 22:57.22 | purple_cow | no paranoia yet :( |
| 22:57.25 | scanlime | hmm.. doesn't do it all the time though |
| 22:57.46 | scanlime | damn ubuntu, it's default kernel is compiled without USB verbose debug :( |
| 22:57.56 | ChipX86 | :( |
| 22:58.08 | darth_mall | purple_cow: sad =\ |
| 22:59.33 | scanlime | sigh.. USB is the source of so many trouble |
| 22:59.41 | ChipX86 | :( |
| 23:00.08 | scanlime | er |
| 23:00.17 | scanlime | I think I was trying to write 'so many bugs' and 'so much trouble' at the same time |
| 23:00.21 | scanlime | race condition in my brain or something |
| 23:00.59 | scanlime | 55 53 42 43 68 9e 58 81 24 00 00 00 80 00 06 12 USBCh.X.$....... |
| 23:01.00 | scanlime | so cute! |
| 23:01.48 | ChipX86 | hmm |
| 23:02.00 | ChipX86 | the meeting of somewhat extreme meetingness starts soon |
| 23:02.26 | scanlime | extreme? |
| 23:02.42 | ChipX86 | well, not extreme so much as normal |
| 23:04.09 | darth_mall | hehe |
| 23:04.16 | CIA-5 | osiris-misc: 03chipx86 * r210 10libsexy/ (ChangeLog libsexy/Makefile.am): Make sure we actually use ENCHANT_CFLAGS and ENCHANT_LIBS. |
| 23:04.54 | scanlime | is it detecting enchant at runtime now? |
| 23:05.02 | ChipX86 | no :( compile-time |
| 23:05.08 | ChipX86 | I just need something hacky that works for now here |
| 23:05.17 | ChipX86 | I'd love to make it a run-time thing |
| 23:05.35 | ChipX86 | :( |
| 23:10.13 | ChipX86 | can someone make sure libsexy still compiles? |
| 23:10.15 | CIA-5 | osiris-misc: 03chipx86 * r211 10libsexy/ (ChangeLog configure.ac): Add a --disable-enchant to configure. |
| 23:10.46 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10bzflag/ (include/bzfsAPI.h src/bzfs/bzfsAPI.cxx): some text utils for the masses |
| 23:11.20 | CIA-5 | spacegrant: 03dkuester * r1678 10mck/ (3 files in 3 dirs): more elegant SIGINT handling, fix close button bug, move non-mainloop code into library |
| 23:12.16 | darth_mall | ChipX86: worked fine for me |
| 23:12.20 | ChipX86 | cool |
| 23:12.22 | darth_mall | indeed |
| 23:12.24 | ChipX86 | I keep getting this: |
| 23:12.27 | ChipX86 | ../../gtk-doc.make:7: *** missing separator. Stop. |
| 23:12.38 | ChipX86 | but it's not a result of my changes here |
| 23:17.33 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10bzflag/plugins/doc/ (functions.html types.html): doc the new text utils |
| 23:17.36 | ToyKeeper | Gah. That reminds me. |
| 23:18.07 | ToyKeeper | The .svn/entries file in my postfix dir keeps getting corrupted, and I don't know why. |
| 23:19.21 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03evan * r8861 10motion/py/Dance/ (ODE.py Sequence.py): |
| 23:19.21 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: Might as well make the RK4 object callable to clean up syntax a little. I might |
| 23:19.21 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: end up changing the solver a little bit. |
| 23:21.25 | lurgy|work | er |
| 23:21.27 | lurgy|work | he's not here |
| 23:21.29 | lurgy|work | neeeeeeeever mind |
| 23:22.25 | darth_mall | take that, lurgy|work! |
| 23:22.40 | darth_mall | purple_cow: you around? |
| 23:25.35 | lurgy|work | darth_mall: yes sir |
| 23:25.47 | purple_cow | darth_mall: yep |
| 23:27.15 | darth_mall | purple_cow: so am I correct in thinking that an AMC object contains a dictionary where the keys are bone names and the values are lists of positions such that bones['knee'][3] gives me the data for the knee in the 3rd frame? |
| 23:28.05 | CIA-5 | spacegrant: 03dkuester * r1679 10mck/ (45 files in 7 dirs): more refactoring, on the way to a big cleanup that will require redocumentating.. |
| 23:28.19 | darth_mall | wow... 45 files |
| 23:28.39 | lurgy|work | :) |
| 23:29.14 | scanlime | are you already at spacegrant's "maximum" pay? |
| 23:29.30 | lurgy|work | i dunno, what's spacegrant's "maximum" pay? :) |
| 23:29.33 | scanlime | $10/hr |
| 23:29.43 | lurgy|work | ah |
| 23:29.49 | lurgy|work | they had to beat that to steal me from my other job |
| 23:29.53 | scanlime | nice |
| 23:29.59 | lurgy|work | :) |
| 23:30.08 | scanlime | $10 is the most I got paid, and the most anyone I knew got paid.. I started at $8.50 I think |
| 23:30.27 | lurgy|work | i think i started at $8.50 too |
| 23:30.58 | scanlime | I bet this kernel would compile faster if I had some chicken blood |
| 23:31.04 | scanlime | maybe from a rubber chicken... |
| 23:31.44 | lurgy|work | mmm chicken |
| 23:31.45 | lurgy|work | yeah |
| 23:32.02 | scanlime | :) |
| 23:32.32 | scanlime | I'd bring flu home and sit him on my TV if that thing didn't get so warm |
| 23:32.46 | purple_cow | darth_mall: it's either that or bones['knee'][3] gives you the 3rd DOF |
| 23:32.48 | scanlime | my TV also hums just a bit.. probably that giant high voltage power supply it must have |
| 23:32.53 | purple_cow | i always have to check |
| 23:33.34 | scanlime | if only they had a way of building computers with more than one CPU! |
| 23:33.55 | darth_mall | hrm |
| 23:34.16 | CIA-5 | spacegrant: 03dkuester * r1680 10mck/ (4 files in 4 dirs): also unbreak a couple more things that would have been broked by the changes (and didn't want poor Dino to bitrot any further..) |
| 23:34.35 | scanlime | poor dino |
| 23:34.54 | scanlime | lurgy|work: you should finish up the support for dino's tip mass datalogger, just for old times' sake |
| 23:35.14 | scanlime | or you could mail me the datalogger and I'll finish it :) |
| 23:35.24 | lurgy|work | hehe |
| 23:35.25 | scanlime | that was a sweet little piece of hardware... |
| 23:35.39 | scanlime | also send me my other baby, the ground TNC |
| 23:35.49 | purple_cow | amc.bones['name'][frame:dof] |
| 23:35.51 | lurgy|work | ^_^ |
| 23:35.58 | scanlime | I'm not sure what I'll use a 9600 baud packet modem for, but it's so cute |
| 23:36.10 | lurgy|work | hehe |
| 23:36.18 | scanlime | purple_cow: oh no, you're abusing slices :) |
| 23:36.24 | purple_cow | abusing? |
| 23:36.33 | purple_cow | err, wait |
| 23:36.35 | scanlime | mmyep |
| 23:36.37 | purple_cow | that should be a , |
| 23:36.38 | purple_cow | not a : |
| 23:36.45 | purple_cow | i think |
| 23:36.46 | scanlime | ah, that's about what I was just going to suggest |
| 23:36.55 | darth_mall | heh |
| 23:37.01 | purple_cow | yeah |
| 23:37.05 | darth_mall | ok |
| 23:37.21 | scanlime | is that a Numeric array, or your own class? |
| 23:37.22 | darth_mall | so it's [frame,dof] |
| 23:37.26 | purple_cow | numeric |
| 23:40.37 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03evan * r8862 10motion/py/Dance/Sequence.py: Fix some syntax errors |
| 23:45.14 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03evan * r8863 10motion/py/Dance/Sequence.py: That was getting a little silly. Simplify the Sequence class. |
| 23:49.28 | CIA-5 | smrt: 03jupiter * r11 10docs/requirements/Makefile: add a handy makefile rule that spell-checks the document |
| 23:49.33 | CIA-5 | spacegrant: 03dkuester * r1682 10mck/ground.py: we need easter eggs |
| 23:49.37 | scanlime | not a very productive day so far.. ran into a couple new bugs |
| 23:49.40 | scanlime | sigh |
| 23:49.48 | scanlime | still thinking about this media backend on the back burner though :) |
| 23:49.52 | scanlime | I might hack on that some more tonight |
| 23:50.06 | purple_cow | some more? you've hacked on it some already? |
| 23:50.10 | scanlime | yeah |
| 23:50.16 | CIA-5 | spacegrant: 03dkuester * r1683 10mck/ground.py: actually, spacegrant needs an easter eggs team lead |
| 23:50.29 | scanlime | I'm still trying to come up with an efficient and simple way to do event-driven filesystem unioning |
| 23:50.39 | scanlime | it gets really tricky with the model I'd been working on |
| 23:50.55 | lurgy|work | hehe |
| 23:51.14 | scanlime | since directory listings can come in from any device at any rate, you never know when you have enough information to form a complete union unless you wait for the listings to finish |
| 23:51.25 | scanlime | so you need some way to propagate this asynchronous unioning information to children in your directory |
| 23:51.35 | scanlime | purple_cow: it's just some dabbling at this point, I don't have anything useful |
| 23:51.43 | purple_cow | aw |
| 23:52.00 | scanlime | it's mostly brainstorming |
| 23:52.14 | scanlime | but what I will say is that it uses a nifty event driven model that's basically what FAM and gamin use |
| 23:52.23 | scanlime | so you 'open' any object- a file, a directory, etc |
| 23:52.32 | scanlime | then as long as it's open you receive events on its children and its metadata |
| 23:52.50 | scanlime | the UI would have the current directory open, to receive information on which icons should exist in the menu or be added/deleted |
| 23:53.01 | scanlime | plus it would have only the icons visible on the screen at the moment opened, so it can receive metadata updates |
| 23:53.24 | scanlime | it would be a really simple way to get a lot of the same responsiveness and lazy loading you see in nautilus |
| 23:53.55 | scanlime | the really neat part is that you can have intermediate objects filtering these event streams.. for example, the filesystem union widget |
| 23:54.29 | scanlime | and you can have many different backends to generate events- local filesystems via FAM/gamin, maybe native non-polling support for remote filesystems, metadata events from mmpython |
| 23:54.57 | scanlime | or even just statically configured objects, for things like the main menu |
| 23:55.18 | scanlime | but even on the main menu, you might union a static area with a uvswitch event source |
| 23:57.18 | scanlime | </rambly-braindump> |
