| 00:00.45 | pagefault | hehe |
| 00:00.55 | pagefault | wasn't there a movie about that |
| 00:01.03 | ChipX86 | my mouse is wayy too sensitive in VMs |
| 00:01.12 | file[laptop] | I'm speechless |
| 00:01.16 | file[laptop] | I really don't know what the problem is |
| 00:02.09 | file[laptop] | therefore I will try the old working build, and see if my new module for distributed INVITEs is compatible with it |
| 00:02.39 | file[laptop] | probably not with my luck |
| 00:02.48 | ChipX86 | Mint bum jelly love child! |
| 00:05.06 | file[laptop] | ChipX86: you're very silly |
| 00:05.18 | pagefault | a little scary too |
| 00:05.49 | ChipX86 | file[laptop]: Minty wonky flapjacks sizzlin' down |
| 00:07.22 | scanlime | yay mint bum jelly love child |
| 00:11.52 | file | I think version skew is biting me in the ass |
| 00:12.19 | ChipX86 | Santa Esmerelda - Don't Let Me Be Misunderstood is such a dancity song |
| 00:12.37 | file | ChipX86: you should dance around your office |
| 00:12.46 | ChipX86 | yep |
| 00:21.09 | scanlime | blah |
| 00:21.13 | scanlime | mail server migration for me soon |
| 00:21.28 | ChipX86 | JeffM2501: nice troll. |
| 00:22.07 | JeffM2501 | very |
| 00:22.14 | ChipX86 | is he a regular? |
| 00:22.35 | scanlime | #bzflag? |
| 00:22.47 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 00:23.08 | ChipX86 | <qbwwdp> ChipX86: and you're just plain dumb overall <-- that made me chuckle a little |
| 00:23.17 | ChipX86 | also, all doctors are dumb |
| 00:23.46 | scanlime | damnit ChipX86, you're just about the dumbest person I know. You should know when to listen to the internet trolls and kill yourself out of shame |
| 00:23.58 | ChipX86 | I know :( |
| 00:24.06 | scanlime | *splat* |
| 00:24.22 | ChipX86 | I don't get to see trolls much anymore. It's refreshing |
| 00:24.32 | file | ChipX86: can you make SER work on this box for me? pretty please? with magic on top? |
| 00:24.38 | ChipX86 | file: *ding* |
| 00:24.40 | ChipX86 | done |
| 00:24.46 | file | didn't work, it's on fire!!! |
| 00:24.55 | ChipX86 | I thought that's what you wanted |
| 00:24.56 | pagefault | so I am starting my own business |
| 00:24.58 | file | darn |
| 00:24.59 | pagefault | but I am not sure what to call it |
| 00:25.08 | file | pagefault: call it your name so you don't have to pay to register it. |
| 00:25.09 | ChipX86 | pagefault: Omnimegaglobalcorp.net |
| 00:25.42 | scanlime | pagefault: 'edgecom' and 'interslice' are two great choices |
| 00:25.49 | pagefault | haha |
| 00:25.53 | pagefault | isn't that from the simpsons |
| 00:25.54 | pagefault | all of them |
| 00:25.56 | scanlime | yes |
| 00:26.07 | ChipX86 | except mine is based on that but I couldn't remember the actual name |
| 00:26.18 | pagefault | hyperglobalmeganet |
| 00:26.21 | pagefault | or something |
| 00:26.22 | ChipX86 | there we go |
| 00:26.28 | ChipX86 | both are fine choices |
| 00:26.53 | file | ah wait I think I know why this is acting weird |
| 00:30.13 | file | or not |
| 00:30.45 | pagefault | some girl in the beer store asked me to fix her computer because I had the "no I will not fix your computer" shirt from TG on |
| 00:31.20 | scanlime | that happens to me a lot |
| 00:31.32 | scanlime | it's like having a big red button on your shirt |
| 00:31.42 | ChipX86 | yep |
| 00:33.06 | file | argh this just became more complicated |
| 00:37.56 | file | the way SIP works... is making this difficult |
| 00:39.44 | pagefault | interesting |
| 00:39.54 | pagefault | 80mpg scooter for $300 |
| 00:43.21 | file | time for gemini |
| 00:44.27 | scanlime | hmm |
| 00:44.31 | scanlime | antsy to get out of here today |
| 00:44.49 | scanlime | too much energy after lunch.. and there's at least some possibility I might be spending way too much money on the way home :P |
| 00:47.03 | ChipX86 | I so don't know vmx-land |
| 00:47.08 | scanlime | hehe |
| 00:47.11 | scanlime | welcome to my world! |
| 00:47.19 | ChipX86 | this whole day is about research :P |
| 00:47.29 | ChipX86 | well, aside from some big batches of code that went in |
| 00:51.24 | scanlime | sweet |
| 00:51.45 | scanlime | looks like I got chris's latest suggestions implemented |
| 00:51.48 | scanlime | they really put the polish on this... |
| 00:51.51 | ChipX86 | nice |
| 00:51.54 | scanlime | it's like a useful feature or something |
| 00:53.54 | scanlime | this seems like a good stopping point |
| 00:55.05 | scanlime | suppose I could stick around another hour and get this ready for review, but my email dies in 5 minutes :P |
| 00:55.16 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 00:55.17 | ChipX86 | :/ |
| 00:55.28 | ChipX86 | wish they did that at 8 or something |
| 00:55.29 | JeffM2501 | scanlime, any hints on where I should read to learn how to set up dual head on ubuntu for my nvidia? |
| 00:55.46 | scanlime | JeffM2501: the same hints you'd read to set up dual head nvidia on any other distro? |
| 00:56.19 | JeffM2501 | never done it for anything :) |
| 00:56.27 | scanlime | so go read the manual |
| 00:56.45 | JeffM2501 | it's got a manual? |
| 00:57.01 | ChipX86 | JeffM2501: yep |
| 00:57.06 | ChipX86 | there's lots of docs on this |
| 00:57.14 | JeffM2501 | I'm a googlin |
| 00:58.44 | ChipX86 | poor Joan :( |
| 00:59.18 | purple_cow | woo |
| 00:59.25 | purple_cow | bruce offered us the chance to be a 3-person team :) |
| 01:00.19 | scanlime | nice |
| 01:01.14 | purple_cow | which means we wouldn't have to work with the weird guy who approached us on tuesday |
| 01:05.32 | darth_mall | pooo |
| 01:22.32 | pagefault | hah |
| 01:22.38 | pagefault | di.fm raised their streams to 96kbps again |
| 01:37.37 | pagefault | extreeme! |
| 01:41.43 | file | I named one of our plans that |
| 01:41.53 | file | Asterlink Extreme! |
| 01:42.36 | pagefault | nice |
| 01:51.00 | file | Izhar Cheema |
| 01:51.06 | file | ^^^ name of one of our support agents |
| 01:52.27 | *** join/#tacobeam StrFox (i=StrFox33@aden2-176-dhcp.resnet.colorado.edu) |
| 01:57.19 | pagefault | James Bond |
| 01:57.29 | file[laptop] | ooh |
| 01:57.49 | pagefault | yes |
| 01:59.24 | pagefault | yay wang computer |
| 01:59.29 | pagefault | wang computer company |
| 01:59.34 | file[laptop] | hrm maybe stargate... |
| 01:59.46 | pagefault | yeah |
| 01:59.52 | file[laptop] | good episode? |
| 01:59.53 | pagefault | I am watching that |
| 01:59.55 | pagefault | no idea |
| 02:00.00 | file[laptop] | but you have a guide! |
| 02:00.22 | pagefault | I don't think i've seen this one |
| 02:00.37 | pagefault | it's something about replicators |
| 02:01.20 | file[laptop] | ah yes this |
| 02:02.32 | file[laptop] | my mind is fried right now when it comes to SIP specs... |
| 02:02.45 | file[laptop] | I'm guessing a 200 OK should come from this... |
| 02:03.16 | file[laptop] | ah this is the Samantha replicator clone episode |
| 02:05.21 | pagefault | simpsons |
| 02:06.51 | pagefault | haha |
| 02:06.55 | pagefault | it's the jurassic park one |
| 02:10.09 | StrFox | ~seen zak |
| 02:10.13 | jbot | zak <n=Jen@c-24-8-182-105.hsd1.co.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #tacobeam, 1d 20h 16m 28s ago, saying: 'naptime!'. |
| 02:10.22 | StrFox | ack! |
| 02:10.39 | purple_cow | StrFox: what do you want? |
| 02:11.09 | StrFox | to find zak |
| 02:11.19 | purple_cow | but why? |
| 02:11.25 | purple_cow | (she's across the table from me) |
| 02:12.31 | StrFox | which is hard at the moment because she seems to be ehphemeral at the moment and because I need to tell her to check facebook because I finally bothered to set myself up there, ack! |
| 02:18.30 | StrFox | purple_cow: tell zak to call me ASAP. |
| 02:22.37 | purple_cow | StrFox: what's up? |
| 02:23.07 | purple_cow | i deny the accusation of ehphemerality! |
| 02:23.12 | StrFox | rents want to know weekend plans plus above |
| 02:23.29 | purple_cow | i already told them i wasn't coming. |
| 02:23.33 | purple_cow | i have told them 3 times |
| 02:23.40 | purple_cow | and as to facebook, just a sec |
| 02:23.46 | StrFox | and until one moment ago to me you were quite ephemerial |
| 02:24.03 | StrFox | guess I'm not going down either |
| 02:26.27 | purple_cow | why aren't you going down? |
| 02:27.08 | purple_cow | there I friended you. lucky you. |
| 02:27.54 | StrFox | nada mass |
| 02:28.10 | StrFox | dnd? |
| 02:28.13 | purple_cow | hai |
| 02:28.25 | StrFox | ah, and the local is? |
| 02:28.41 | purple_cow | about that giving back :) |
| 02:33.21 | *** join/#tacobeam laodamas (n=cehoward@70-58-0-34.hlrn.qwest.net) |
| 02:46.27 | scanlime | hrmph |
| 02:46.48 | scanlime | so circuit city has a really great deal on a 42" panasonic EDTV plasma |
| 02:47.06 | scanlime | the picture literally looks better than anything else in the store, including the $6000 plasmas.. and it gets great reviews online |
| 02:47.11 | scanlime | but I'd have to live with EDTV resolution |
| 02:48.23 | purple_cow | what is edtv's resolution? |
| 02:49.07 | scanlime | 853x480 |
| 02:49.47 | purple_cow | that's not horrible |
| 02:49.50 | scanlime | with their test signal you couldn't see a lot of difference between it and the real HDTVs |
| 02:49.53 | ChipX86 | Circuit City has a labor day sale starting tomorrow I think |
| 02:50.05 | scanlime | hmm.. the digital TV sale ends tomorrow :) |
| 02:50.10 | scanlime | wonder if there's any overlap |
| 02:50.10 | ChipX86 | oh |
| 02:50.10 | ChipX86 | heh |
| 02:50.17 | ChipX86 | maybe |
| 02:50.44 | scanlime | well. I think if I decide on this exact model, it'd be very worth it to get it at circuit city.. it's $700 off |
| 02:50.44 | *** join/#tacobeam spooklight (n=jamie@69.238.196.91) |
| 02:50.48 | scanlime | otherwise I wait |
| 02:50.54 | ChipX86 | hey :) |
| 02:51.09 | kergoth | hey spooklight |
| 02:51.11 | spooklight | hello :) |
| 02:51.28 | scanlime | but damn.. the contrast and gamma on this panasonic EDTV were awesome |
| 02:51.36 | scanlime | and much better black levels than anything else there, even in a brightly lit store |
| 02:51.44 | ChipX86 | ACK |
| 02:51.49 | ChipX86 | I bet my neighbors wondered what that was |
| 02:51.53 | spooklight | ACK? |
| 02:52.11 | ChipX86 | I *HATE* songs that play lyrics at the start of a song at a volume that you can't even hear |
| 02:52.15 | ChipX86 | and then suddenly blast the music |
| 02:52.21 | scanlime | hehe |
| 02:52.30 | spooklight | haha |
| 02:52.32 | spooklight | hoho |
| 02:52.46 | ChipX86 | yes |
| 02:52.48 | ChipX86 | I was just thinking that |
| 02:52.49 | ChipX86 | oh man |
| 02:52.53 | ChipX86 | that was LOUD |
| 02:53.13 | scanlime | hmm |
| 02:53.24 | scanlime | this is easily $1000 less than an equivalent HDTV, maybe much more |
| 02:53.39 | scanlime | considering I don't actually have any content that's higher than EDTV resolution yet, I'm very tempted :) |
| 02:53.43 | ChipX86 | I'm just waiting for prices to drop more |
| 02:54.00 | scanlime | yeah |
| 02:54.05 | ChipX86 | but an HDTV or EDTV connected to an HTPC over DVI is so tempting... |
| 02:54.18 | scanlime | I guess I'm the sort of person that will use downright crappy hardware as long as he already has it... |
| 02:54.20 | scanlime | my laptop for example |
| 02:54.40 | scanlime | but since I don't have a TV (that 13" doesn't count) I'd rather get something good :) |
| 02:54.54 | ChipX86 | 13" doesn't even count for a laptop :P |
| 02:55.00 | scanlime | hehe, yeah |
| 02:55.07 | scanlime | and I think it's actually lower than NTSC resolution |
| 02:55.24 | scanlime | I'd use it for video game system debugging.. and it didn't even really do the N64 justice |
| 02:55.52 | scanlime | mmm... I already have the cables to hook my dreamcast up to an HDTV/EDTV :) |
| 02:56.02 | scanlime | will need to look up some pinouts for the gamecube |
| 02:56.13 | scanlime | or even, spend the $5 and buy a cable... |
| 02:56.29 | ChipX86 | I want something that acts as a gateway between my inputs and my TV, and then streams the audio/video maybe through the network or through whatever to a box here that I can plug another TV into, so that I can watch things from this room |
| 02:56.43 | scanlime | long DVI cable :P |
| 02:56.48 | ChipX86 | really long one |
| 02:56.53 | scanlime | or you could invent a packet switching network based on DVI! |
| 02:57.00 | ChipX86 | yay! |
| 02:57.04 | scanlime | actually, some TVs take firewire video directly |
| 02:57.05 | ChipX86 | IP/DVI? |
| 02:57.09 | scanlime | I think that's kind of oldschool now... |
| 02:57.11 | scanlime | hehe |
| 02:57.12 | scanlime | yes! |
| 02:57.21 | scanlime | damn that would be some sexy bandwidth |
| 02:57.32 | ChipX86 | could attempt DVI Over Hamster |
| 02:57.45 | scanlime | I like USB over barbed wire |
| 02:57.50 | ChipX86 | :) |
| 02:58.06 | ChipX86 | ok, I think spooklight and I are going to go get our asses kicked at bzflag |
| 02:58.06 | scanlime | mmm.. leftovers... |
| 02:58.19 | scanlime | olk |
| 02:58.21 | scanlime | er, ok |
| 02:58.33 | spooklight | ChipX86, hehe |
| 02:58.37 | scanlime | I think now that I'm no longer starving, I'll go back and stare at that panasonic EDTV some more :) |
| 02:58.58 | ChipX86 | spooklight: let's try the sleepycows one |
| 02:59.09 | spooklight | sleepycows? |
| 02:59.17 | ChipX86 | it's one of the servers |
| 02:59.19 | ChipX86 | something.sleepycows.something |
| 02:59.33 | spooklight | capture the flag? |
| 02:59.44 | ChipX86 | nope :) |
| 02:59.47 | spooklight | good |
| 02:59.53 | ChipX86 | btw, bzflag needs a key to ungrab my mouse |
| 02:59.57 | ChipX86 | I recommend control-alt |
| 03:00.06 | spooklight | oh |
| 03:04.21 | ChipX86 | spooklight: almost ready? |
| 03:04.36 | spooklight | ? |
| 03:04.44 | spooklight | bzflag? |
| 03:04.48 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 03:04.56 | spooklight | just a sec |
| 03:06.25 | spooklight | ok, sleepycow something? |
| 03:06.41 | ChipX86 | bzflag.sleepycow.us |
| 03:06.44 | ChipX86 | should be on the first page |
| 03:06.52 | spooklight | ok, here i go! |
| 03:27.58 | gonkulator | ugh... why can't I connect to AIM... |
| 03:32.26 | gonkulator | weird... |
| 03:33.41 | gonkulator | so whats up? |
| 03:33.47 | file | eating a muffin |
| 03:33.47 | file | u? |
| 03:35.26 | gonkulator | thinking about doing my metaphysics homework |
| 03:36.08 | file | good idea |
| 03:36.22 | gonkulator | yeah |
| 03:36.38 | gonkulator | the great thing about philosophy is that thinking about getting your homework done actually gets the homework done |
| 03:37.39 | gonkulator | bah |
| 03:37.43 | gonkulator | its not that hard |
| 03:41.50 | gonkulator | heh |
| 03:49.58 | gonkulator | and on that note, sleepy time |
| 03:50.12 | file[laptop] | eep sleep |
| 03:53.41 | nullpuppy | hehe, Gabe of Penny Arcade came into work today :) |
| 04:02.39 | file[laptop] | nullpuppy: Dustin! |
| 04:04.17 | nullpuppy | file[laptop]: Josh! |
| 04:04.28 | nullpuppy | wuzzup |
| 04:04.28 | file[laptop] | nullpuppy: fancy meeting you here. |
| 04:04.41 | file[laptop] | listening to music, youuu? |
| 04:05.06 | nullpuppy | not much |
| 04:05.13 | nullpuppy | just sitting here, doing nothing |
| 04:05.37 | file[laptop] | you're very... exciting |
| 04:05.54 | nullpuppy | I know! |
| 04:47.40 | scanlime | whew |
| 04:49.32 | nullpuppy | after what? |
| 04:49.52 | scanlime | spending about $2000 :P |
| 04:50.02 | nullpuppy | hehe :) |
| 04:50.05 | scanlime | not quite as bad as buying my car... but yeah |
| 04:50.10 | nullpuppy | what'd ya buy? |
| 04:50.12 | scanlime | and damn.. those things come in big boxes |
| 04:50.32 | scanlime | Panasonic TH-42PD50U |
| 04:50.45 | scanlime | http://www.circuitcity.com/ccd/Search.do?c=1&context=&keyword=TH-42PD50U&searchSection=All&go.x=0&go.y=0 |
| 04:51.09 | scanlime | circuit city has them on sale until tomorrow for $1800 |
| 04:51.24 | scanlime | it's so beautiful... |
| 04:51.44 | scanlime | that 4000:1 contrast ratio specification doesn't lie one bit |
| 04:52.20 | nullpuppy | nice :) |
| 04:52.33 | nullpuppy | you should buy me one now :) |
| 04:52.52 | scanlime | :) |
| 04:53.03 | scanlime | sales tax was about $150... |
| 04:53.10 | scanlime | half what shipping would have been ordering it online |
| 04:53.15 | scanlime | I'm still frightened by how big the box was |
| 04:53.19 | nullpuppy | damn, thats not too bad though.. |
| 04:53.21 | nullpuppy | hehe, yeah |
| 04:53.33 | scanlime | I had some hope of loading it into my car with the seats down and the area behind the trunk opened up |
| 04:53.42 | scanlime | but no, it's maybe twice that big... |
| 04:53.46 | scanlime | had to pay the $60 delivery charge |
| 04:53.48 | nullpuppy | hahah |
| 04:54.00 | scanlime | should get it delivered tomorrow night |
| 04:54.07 | nullpuppy | cool :) |
| 04:54.19 | scanlime | not really sure how I'll move it into my apartment, I might have to pick up some of those little caster thingies to put under it |
| 04:54.26 | scanlime | thank goodness this building has an elevator |
| 04:54.27 | nullpuppy | yeah |
| 04:54.32 | nullpuppy | hehe, yeah |
| 04:54.37 | nullpuppy | that'd suck without one |
| 04:54.44 | scanlime | yes, yes it would |
| 04:54.54 | scanlime | and oh my god.. they were selling DVI cables for $150 |
| 04:55.09 | scanlime | I just need a simple HDMI to DVI adaptor really.. it's just two plugs, no active components |
| 04:55.12 | scanlime | $30 at circuit city |
| 04:55.15 | scanlime | but it's gold plated! |
| 04:55.15 | nullpuppy | so.. one of these days when I have money and time for a vacation, I'll have to take a road trip :) I'll be sure to bring some homebrew with too ;) |
| 04:55.23 | scanlime | a gold plated DVI-D cable... |
| 04:55.25 | nullpuppy | hehe, cool |
| 04:55.38 | nullpuppy | haha |
| 04:56.00 | nullpuppy | how long was the cable? |
| 04:56.00 | scanlime | so yeah.. hopefully fry's has video cables that aren't completely ludicrous |
| 04:56.00 | scanlime | I don't know, 4 feet or so |
| 04:56.00 | nullpuppy | damn |
| 04:56.04 | nullpuppy | thats nuts. made by monster? :) |
| 04:56.04 | scanlime | it was gold plated and about a half inch thick |
| 04:56.07 | scanlime | uhhuh |
| 04:56.10 | nullpuppy | haha |
| 04:56.11 | scanlime | MONSTER VIDEO 2! |
| 04:56.31 | nullpuppy | ya know, i have to say.. who ever started that company was a genius |
| 04:56.38 | scanlime | I was having too much fun exposing their little scam to the salesman at circuit city :P |
| 04:56.59 | scanlime | heh, yeah.. especially the part where a lot of stores only seem to carry monster cable crap |
| 04:57.06 | nullpuppy | i mean.. seriously :) who else could make such shitty cables and sell them for so much, and convince people to buy them ;) |
| 04:57.08 | scanlime | I should be able to count on fry's to do better |
| 04:57.09 | nullpuppy | yeah |
| 04:57.18 | nullpuppy | yeah |
| 04:57.25 | scanlime | if not.. I already have a couple DVI cables, I could bite the bullet and get the DVI to HDMI adaptor |
| 04:57.30 | scanlime | but ugh.. $30 for a little plug |
| 04:57.35 | nullpuppy | yeah |
| 04:57.37 | scanlime | that's as bad as SCSI cables used to be |
| 04:59.12 | scanlime | hmm |
| 04:59.15 | scanlime | "Only 4 inches deep" |
| 04:59.21 | scanlime | that box was easily 3 feet deep :P |
| 04:59.32 | scanlime | at least they're well padded during shipping |
| 04:59.53 | scanlime | no idea where I'll keep all the packing material... at least during the 30 day return policy and all that |
| 04:59.59 | scanlime | s/policy/period/ |
| 05:00.11 | scanlime | it'll probably end up being my coffee table for a while :P |
| 05:01.55 | nullpuppy | hehe |
| 05:05.50 | scanlime | ooh.. |
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| 05:51.26 | scanlime | heh. looks like they tell lots of people that this plasma TV can't be connected directly to a PC, just because windows doesn't let you set the right resolution on the card's DVI output |
| 05:52.17 | file[laptop] | crazy scanlime |
| 05:54.01 | ChipX86 | http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050902/ap_on_sc/clever_whale |
| 05:54.16 | scanlime | haha |
| 05:57.03 | scanlime | oh wow |
| 05:57.26 | ChipX86 | oh you bought one? |
| 05:57.37 | scanlime | yup |
| 05:57.40 | scanlime | well |
| 05:57.40 | purple_cow | scanlime: where's the code for that? |
| 05:57.42 | scanlime | I don't have it here |
| 05:57.50 | scanlime | I'm just anticipating porting software to it :) |
| 05:57.55 | scanlime | it should be delivered tomorrow night |
| 05:58.00 | scanlime | purple_cow: abandoned |
| 05:58.13 | scanlime | looks like it still works |
| 05:58.20 | scanlime | mmm |
| 05:58.25 | scanlime | the fonts on pybzengine rock so much |
| 05:59.06 | file[laptop] | I should go to sleep |
| 05:59.12 | scanlime | I think my attention to detail on the antialiasing will pay off on a big screen :) |
| 06:03.11 | scanlime | purple_cow: hmm, lots of pybzengine's special effects seem to be really broken on recent pyopengl |
| 06:03.25 | scanlime | but the menus themselves with the icons still work |
| 06:03.32 | scanlime | also... |
| 06:03.34 | scanlime | purple_cow: http://spineless.sourceforge.net/ |
| 06:03.42 | scanlime | purple_cow: http://home.gna.org/oomadness/en/soya/ |
| 06:03.47 | scanlime | there was one other I remember seeing... |
| 06:03.52 | scanlime | but those two both look fairly neat |
| 06:16.33 | purple_cow | neat |
| 06:25.33 | *** part/#tacobeam JeffM2501 (n=jeffm@pdpc/supporter/sustaining/JeffM2501) |
| 06:30.29 | scanlime | "I'm not supposed to eat the legos!" "God, it's like taking to Keanu Reeves..." |
| 06:33.00 | scanlime | hah. I don't remember this episode |
| 06:33.07 | scanlime | "Hug me. You know you want to, blah." |
| 06:35.40 | scanlime | haha |
| 06:35.43 | scanlime | hahaha |
| 06:36.25 | scanlime | "Dude, it's time travel! How hard could it be? If I'm successful, I'm going back to 1988 to stop them from making Back to the Future III" |
| 06:39.28 | scanlime | Greg the Bunny |
| 06:39.42 | scanlime | I definitely don't remember this episode at all |
| 06:39.46 | purple_cow | ah |
| 06:40.29 | scanlime | ah |
| 06:40.33 | scanlime | yes, my accent is way off |
| 06:43.15 | scanlime | kergoth: hmm, you're still listed as the maintainer for the unionfs OE package :) |
| 06:43.16 | purple_cow | hmm. i can't get the spinny menu to work |
| 06:43.27 | scanlime | menutest.py? |
| 06:43.59 | purple_cow | no, wasabi.py |
| 06:44.03 | purple_cow | not the arc menu, the circle menu |
| 06:44.16 | scanlime | wasabi.py will start off with that intro, which doesn't seem to work any more due to pyopengl brokenage |
| 06:45.04 | scanlime | ah |
| 06:45.12 | scanlime | comment out Main.py:74 |
| 06:45.17 | scanlime | to take the logo out of the sequencer |
| 06:45.47 | scanlime | also you'll want to edit data/backgrounds.py, and probably comment out the references to /navi |
| 06:46.11 | purple_cow | hehehe |
| 06:46.25 | purple_cow | so i'm reading about paranoia |
| 06:46.36 | purple_cow | and there's a list of helpful phrases for troubleshooters to know |
| 06:46.46 | purple_cow | ``It is clear that our "friend" (dead trouble shooter's name) was obviously a (commie/mutant/traitor/commie mutant traitor) and I am honored that it could be me who struck him down for the preservation of Alpha Complex and the glory of the Computer.'' |
| 06:47.33 | scanlime | hmm |
| 06:49.05 | scanlime | hehe, I love tardy turtle |
| 06:49.45 | purple_cow | he *is* the best character on the show |
| 06:52.54 | scanlime | your game confuses me already, and I know nothing about it |
| 06:53.07 | purple_cow | any RPG where knowledge of the rules of the game is evidence of treason and grounds for summary execution is damn cool |
| 06:53.28 | scanlime | hehehe |
| 06:57.16 | purple_cow | o/~ snowball, snowball, what do you do with snow-fall? you ball it up, and make it stick, and then you hurl it like a brick! o/~ |
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| 07:00.54 | scanlime | noo... incomplete file |
| 07:00.58 | scanlime | I guess that means I need to go to bed |
| 07:01.05 | numist | aww |
| 07:01.08 | numist | I should be asleep too |
| 07:01.16 | scanlime | gotta run by the hardware store on the way home and get TV moving supplies :) |
| 07:01.32 | scanlime | and hopefully a DVI to HDMI cable from fry's |
| 07:03.42 | purple_cow | Put a lot of points specifically in LASER. You'll get one. You'll own one. You'll shoot one. Might as well be able to hit something (read: someone). |
| 07:03.48 | purple_cow | i really need this game |
| 07:23.03 | ChipX86 | yay for bad headaches |
| 07:23.09 | ChipX86 | I so don't want to be sick when visiting Jamie |
| 07:32.43 | purple_cow | :( |
| 07:48.01 | ChipX86 | I have a feeling I'm going to have another dead drive soon |
| 07:52.13 | numist | backup :) |
| 07:52.22 | numist | when are you visiting jamie, chippy? |
| 07:52.53 | ChipX86 | yeah, the only thing of value on there is some code checked out from svn (stuff I already lost during the other drive crash anyway) and some test VMs and a real VM (which I'm backing up now) |
| 07:53.00 | ChipX86 | Saturday morning through Monday afternoon |
| 07:53.11 | ChipX86 | my family won't be in town, so she'll have me to herself completely, which she's thrilled about |
| 07:53.20 | numist | excellent |
| 07:53.25 | numist | oh she'll be visiting you |
| 07:53.43 | ChipX86 | no, I'm visiting her |
| 07:54.11 | numist | your family is from chico then? |
| 07:54.15 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 07:54.20 | numist | ah hah |
| 07:54.23 | ChipX86 | I've lived there most of my life |
| 07:54.55 | numist | sorry, but thats as hard for me to comprehend as a city disappearing under a lake |
| 07:55.20 | ChipX86 | how so? |
| 07:55.21 | numist | Ive never lived anywhere longer than 4 years... |
| 07:55.25 | ChipX86 | ah |
| 07:55.38 | ChipX86 | yeah well, Lake New Orleans, while hard to believe, is there, so.. :P |
| 07:55.44 | numist | indeed |
| 07:55.59 | ChipX86 | closest thing now is New Orleans Square in Disneyland :( |
| 07:56.00 | numist | actually, lake new orleans is easier to comprehend than living in the same place for most of ones life |
| 07:56.52 | numist | so I found a home for Hobbes :) |
| 07:56.55 | numist | I should blog that... |
| 07:56.56 | ChipX86 | good :) |
| 07:57.02 | numist | yay I have so many happy things to blog about today :) |
| 07:58.17 | ChipX86 | yeah? |
| 07:58.29 | numist | yeah |
| 07:58.50 | numist | got the car, found a home for hobbes, get paid tomorrow so I dont have to live off my CC :o |
| 07:58.55 | ChipX86 | nice |
| 07:59.01 | numist | thats enough good news to last me a few weeks :) |
| 07:59.06 | numist | Ive wanted that car for 9 years |
| 07:59.09 | ChipX86 | yeah |
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| 08:00.16 | numist | Brian's having connection issues tonight... |
| 08:00.38 | ChipX86 | I hate sudoku |
| 08:00.42 | ChipX86 | it won't leave me alone |
| 08:01.30 | numist | haha |
| 08:01.33 | numist | I hate it too |
| 08:02.51 | purple_cow | hahahaha |
| 08:02.52 | purple_cow | We include a 24-page booklet as a cool bonus with the fine PARANOIA Gamemaster Screen, because it's hard to sell GM screens for roleplaying games nowadays without a cool bonus booklet. |
| 08:02.52 | purple_cow | (Really, what can you say to sell a GM screen by itself? 'It has charts from the rulebook! It stands up! Guaranteed opaque at visible wavelengths!') |
| 08:03.11 | ChipX86 | haha |
| 08:03.59 | numist | purple_cow: :o |
| 08:04.04 | numist | thats a hefty guarantee |
| 08:04.31 | purple_cow | that's really tempting, since from all i've read, the new edition is fantastic |
| 08:04.51 | purple_cow | ok, i really need to get to sleep |
| 08:04.55 | purple_cow | stupid friday morning class |
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| 08:24.32 | ChipX86 | KeyserLaptop: ping |
| 08:42.31 | numist | sleeptime... gnight tacobeam |
| 08:42.57 | ChipX86 | g'night |
| 08:43.00 | ChipX86 | I should be in bed |
| 08:43.03 | ChipX86 | just want to get this backup solution finished |
| 08:45.33 | ChipX86 | I'm so glad linode bumped up the transfer limit |
| 10:49.59 | Veight | ping anyone |
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| 14:54.02 | scanlime | "Yeah.. I think sushi places in that area must be as common as Starbucks’ in the financial district." |
| 14:54.05 | scanlime | seems likely |
| 14:58.25 | kergoth | haw, i'm at work, but my boss thought i had today off. in that case, maybe i'll go home :P |
| 14:58.42 | scanlime | hah |
| 14:58.59 | kergoth | actually, i think i will. i can finish up what i'm working on there |
| 14:59.12 | kergoth | i should pick up a usb flash device for dragging code back & forth |
| 14:59.15 | kergoth | heh |
| 15:02.27 | scanlime | it'd be really handy to eliminate disk noise in my HTPC |
| 15:02.37 | scanlime | without the hassle of nfs-root |
| 15:04.41 | kergoth | htpc? x86? can the bios support booting off of it directly, or..? |
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| 15:12.05 | purple_cow | grlph |
| 15:12.45 | darth_mall | yep |
| 15:13.25 | purple_cow | i'm going to be amazed if i make it through this library course without stabbing either myself or the teacher |
| 15:15.31 | darth_mall | hehe |
| 15:15.36 | darth_mall | I'll help you stab your teacher |
| 15:15.39 | darth_mall | I'm all about the stabbin' |
| 15:17.40 | purple_cow | hmm. so it's less than 3 hours to the deadline and still lots of people without teams |
| 15:18.01 | purple_cow | ooh. that one team who was threatening us decided on projects, and they chose the other sun one as #2 |
| 15:18.02 | purple_cow | woo! |
| 15:19.05 | purple_cow | so unless anyone makes a last-minute asshole switcheroo, we've got it :D |
| 15:22.20 | darth_mall | yay! |
| 15:34.12 | numist | mornings must be destroyed |
| 15:36.08 | Cae | numist: indeed. |
| 15:36.19 | Cae | they are a grave threat to national security |
| 15:57.35 | scanlime | kergoth: yes, x86.. a lot of BIOSes can boot off of USB. I'm not sure if mine can or not.. might have to make my own boot EPROM ;) |
| 15:58.04 | purple_cow | hmm |
| 15:58.30 | scanlime | purple_cow: you need to make sure your HTPC software and all dependencies fit on a reasonably sized flash chip :) |
| 15:58.37 | purple_cow | scanlime: hah |
| 15:58.51 | kergoth | scanlime: hehe. if it can, just load up a syslinux/extlinux or lilo on the mbr of the card, throw together an oe rootfs, and call it done |
| 15:58.54 | scanlime | I want no disk noise, and running off a flash disk is faster and more convenient than nfs-root |
| 15:59.09 | scanlime | kergoth: ah yes.. OE does x86 doesn't it |
| 15:59.12 | kergoth | yeah |
| 15:59.17 | kergoth | people use it on epias and stuff |
| 15:59.21 | scanlime | cute |
| 15:59.26 | purple_cow | http://david.navi.cx/tmp/flustered_hey_tomcat.mp3 |
| 15:59.36 | scanlime | :( |
| 15:59.41 | purple_cow | scanlime: what is a "reasonable" flash disk? :) |
| 15:59.48 | purple_cow | scanlime: can you transfer it to your rio? |
| 15:59.49 | scanlime | purple_cow: 512MB |
| 16:00.03 | scanlime | left my rio at home today... and even if I had it, I'd need a cable of some sort |
| 16:00.21 | kergoth | hehe, oe can build you one at a few megs, depending on what you want on it |
| 16:00.24 | purple_cow | hmm. 512MB should be enough for linux + X + python + freevo + whatever we end up calling our thing |
| 16:00.24 | scanlime | I'll have plenty of time to listen tonight while waiting for the TV delivery guy |
| 16:00.37 | scanlime | purple_cow: plus plenty of animated wallpapers! |
| 16:00.37 | scanlime | :P |
| 16:00.51 | purple_cow | hah |
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| 16:00.57 | scanlime | so you're planning on making this a new UI for freevo? |
| 16:01.01 | kergoth | http://www.overstock.com/cgi-bin/d2.cgi?page=proframe&prod_id=1093378 .. check that guy out |
| 16:01.08 | kergoth | just ordered two of those :) |
| 16:01.16 | kergoth | (will need to pick up more in the future if they're still in stock for a raid 5) |
| 16:02.08 | purple_cow | scanlime: yeah |
| 16:02.13 | darth_mall | hmm |
| 16:02.24 | purple_cow | makes a lot more sense to do it that way than implement all of freevo's backend ourselves |
| 16:02.26 | kergoth | i'll finally move my music/video collection to scsi drives |
| 16:02.27 | darth_mall | bleh |
| 16:02.28 | darth_mall | class |
| 16:02.33 | kergoth | just set up an rsync to periodically backup to the ides |
| 16:02.50 | purple_cow | kergoth: nice :) |
| 16:02.52 | scanlime | purple_cow: yeah.. although the really interesting (and working) parts of freevo's backend are mostly just separate packages like mplayer and mmpython |
| 16:03.05 | scanlime | purple_cow: freevo's backend bothers me in a few ways after using it and programming for it for a while |
| 16:03.34 | darth_mall | hehe... mmpython |
| 16:03.36 | scanlime | I *hate* how everything is blocking/polling.. it spends tons of CPU just polling things in a bunch of threads |
| 16:03.48 | scanlime | would be much cooler with all the I/O handled by Twisted or something similar, then a separate thread for graphics |
| 16:03.57 | scanlime | :) |
| 16:04.11 | scanlime | then the backend is extremely slow at browsing large collections |
| 16:04.24 | scanlime | mostly because it does all the processing up-front after a big fat os.listdir() |
| 16:04.26 | purple_cow | scanlime: they've got a gtk-style main loop in freevo 2.0 |
| 16:04.31 | scanlime | ooh |
| 16:04.33 | scanlime | that's nice |
| 16:04.35 | kergoth | nice |
| 16:04.56 | scanlime | so.. now they need to make directory loading all event driven and stuff |
| 16:05.00 | darth_mall | so we should be hearing back from Bruce today, yeah? |
| 16:05.09 | scanlime | they'd need one of the C extensions for python that let you incrementally read directories rather than all at once |
| 16:05.38 | kergoth | heh, should use dnotify/inotify to hook for notifications on content changes, if they dont already |
| 16:05.50 | scanlime | that too |
| 16:06.04 | scanlime | although inotify/dnotify on an NFS or smbfs mount sucks :P |
| 16:06.27 | kergoth | morning chip |
| 16:06.30 | ChipX86 | you could use inotify, dnotify, *and* libnotify |
| 16:06.31 | ChipX86 | morning |
| 16:06.32 | scanlime | I don't know about other potential users, but I'm going to want my HTPC running entirely off solid state memory and networked disks |
| 16:06.35 | scanlime | :) |
| 16:06.58 | purple_cow | darth_mall: by frequently you mean once? |
| 16:07.12 | scanlime | mmm, florentines |
| 16:07.15 | scanlime | Jen and I used to make those a lot |
| 16:07.41 | darth_mall | oh, really? |
| 16:09.56 | ChipX86 | rsync returned 12 and that makes me sad |
| 16:10.04 | scanlime | :( |
| 16:10.11 | scanlime | are you using it to do linode backups too? |
| 16:10.14 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 16:10.20 | ChipX86 | rsnapshot specifically |
| 16:10.21 | ChipX86 | it's neat |
| 16:10.36 | ChipX86 | so now my terastation is pulling backups off of athena, osiris, and trinity |
| 16:10.41 | ChipX86 | doing daily, weekly, and monthly snapshots |
| 16:11.01 | scanlime | ooh |
| 16:11.16 | scanlime | I should set that up |
| 16:11.22 | ChipX86 | it makes like, daily.0, and gets everything, puts stuff in the host dirs under daily.0 |
| 16:11.26 | scanlime | right now I just have a nightly cron that pulls off /var/www from zero |
| 16:11.32 | purple_cow | darth_mall: nope, just the one |
| 16:11.37 | scanlime | and another nightly cron that pulls a database dump off CIA |
| 16:11.41 | purple_cow | i used to drink them a lot |
| 16:11.41 | ChipX86 | then on the next, it makes daily.1 and hard links all the files and then overwrites the hardlinks with any updated files |
| 16:11.48 | Cae | class. |
| 16:11.51 | ChipX86 | so you have the whole file system for each day without taking up much space |
| 16:11.58 | scanlime | nice |
| 16:12.02 | ChipX86 | then after x number of daily snapshots (configurable) it just nukes the last |
| 16:12.05 | scanlime | how much space does it take up on the machine you're backing up? |
| 16:12.08 | ChipX86 | the weekly is then pulled from the latest daily |
| 16:12.16 | ChipX86 | and then the next daily is based on the weekly, etc |
| 16:12.19 | ChipX86 | hmmm |
| 16:12.30 | ChipX86 | osiris and athena are on here, and so far... |
| 16:12.37 | scanlime | 'cuz zero doesn't have much free space |
| 16:12.40 | ChipX86 | (I just set this up last night) |
| 16:12.42 | ChipX86 | oh |
| 16:12.44 | ChipX86 | nod |
| 16:12.49 | ChipX86 | well there's no compression |
| 16:12.56 | ChipX86 | it mirrors the filesystems |
| 16:13.08 | scanlime | so it mirrors them on the remote machine then rsyncs down the mirrors I assume? |
| 16:13.59 | ChipX86 | it's a pulling backup. You don't push a backup to any remote machine. One machine goes out and fetches the files from other machines |
| 16:14.11 | ChipX86 | so my terastation actually logs in to these other machines and rsyncs down to it |
| 16:14.16 | scanlime | ah, ok |
| 16:14.16 | scanlime | good |
| 16:14.22 | ChipX86 | ok, osiris and athena are taking 11GB right now |
| 16:14.22 | scanlime | ooh, and it supports your own backup scripts |
| 16:14.25 | ChipX86 | yep |
| 16:14.28 | scanlime | that will be handy for databases |
| 16:14.32 | ChipX86 | yep :) |
| 16:14.53 | ChipX86 | you could also do hourly or even minutely backups |
| 16:14.53 | scanlime | you can see its carefully defined I/O load profile in flapjack's graphs :) |
| 16:15.50 | scanlime | definitely have to try setting up rsnapshot this weekend |
| 16:15.58 | scanlime | or whenever I get my pile of disks kinda organized |
| 16:15.58 | ChipX86 | it's easier than I thought |
| 16:16.10 | ChipX86 | and it actually worked with the very minimal amount of things I have available for the terastation |
| 16:16.22 | ChipX86 | not that you'd be setting up on one |
| 16:16.27 | ChipX86 | but still, yay minimal |
| 16:16.28 | scanlime | nod. so it shoudln't be hard at all to set up on an NSLU2 |
| 16:16.36 | ChipX86 | yep |
| 16:16.46 | scanlime | especially one with a spacious 0.5GB root filesystem! >:) |
| 16:16.59 | darth_mall | mmm -- half a gig |
| 16:17.01 | ChipX86 | :) |
| 16:17.21 | ChipX86 | hrm |
| 16:17.28 | ChipX86 | why didn't it work with trinity.. |
| 16:17.51 | ChipX86 | 12 Error in rsync protocol data stream |
| 16:17.54 | ChipX86 | hrm. |
| 16:18.11 | scanlime | so I assume you're using rsync's bandwidth limiting? |
| 16:18.18 | ChipX86 | I'm not, but you can |
| 16:18.22 | ChipX86 | I just haven't set that up yet |
| 16:18.25 | scanlime | k |
| 16:18.32 | scanlime | if I don't, it kills my linodes :) |
| 16:18.35 | darth_mall | hehe -- there's Ashvin |
| 16:20.11 | scanlime | well, looks like no trouble with the new mail server yet |
| 16:20.49 | scanlime | incoming mail seems to get filtered then show up in thunderbird pretty quick |
| 16:21.19 | scanlime | yay for outlook server-side rules.. it's like procmail, but without any pesky useful features |
| 16:22.01 | scanlime | wow.. that coffee went straight to my head |
| 16:22.12 | scanlime | never been into work this early |
| 16:22.16 | scanlime | now I'm all hyper... |
| 16:22.18 | scanlime | and stuff... |
| 16:22.20 | scanlime | woo look, some code |
| 16:24.44 | darth_mall | wow |
| 16:24.57 | darth_mall | Amer is really good at naming classes |
| 16:25.10 | scanlime | who's this? |
| 16:25.22 | ChipX86 | E: Dynamic MMap ran out of room |
| 16:25.28 | ChipX86 | I like seeing that on apt-get update |
| 16:25.29 | darth_mall | my former PL prof who is now teaching my software eng. methods & tools class |
| 16:25.44 | darth_mall | we're implementing a connect four game in Java |
| 16:25.51 | scanlime | ChipX86: on your terastation? :) |
| 16:25.52 | darth_mall | and the game engine is contained in a class named Logic |
| 16:25.55 | ChipX86 | scanlime: nope |
| 16:25.59 | ChipX86 | my debian box back home |
| 16:26.42 | scanlime | darth_mall: you should give all your classes descriptive names like "Program", "Main", "Engine", "ThinkTank", or "Software" |
| 16:27.12 | darth_mall | I like that idea |
| 16:27.18 | darth_mall | in our last lab I had a Foo class |
| 16:27.50 | nullpuppy | tablets are too damn expensive :( |
| 16:27.57 | gonkulator | classes are rfun |
| 16:28.03 | gonkulator | are fun that is |
| 16:28.10 | file | or is it? |
| 16:28.16 | darth_mall | nullpuppy: =\ |
| 16:28.50 | ChipX86 | ahhh. wow. Well, that would be the reason then. |
| 16:28.57 | ChipX86 | 258 packages to upgrade |
| 16:29.02 | nullpuppy | haha |
| 16:29.36 | darth_mall | so the line ``Logic l = new Logic ();'' creates a new game... |
| 16:29.57 | scanlime | darth_mall: the computer player should be LogicAnalyzer |
| 16:30.02 | darth_mall | hehe |
| 16:30.47 | darth_mall | oof |
| 16:30.49 | darth_mall | eclipse bothers me |
| 16:30.54 | darth_mall | nullpuppy: ooooh! I like that ^^ |
| 16:31.03 | nullpuppy | :) |
| 16:31.42 | nullpuppy | haha, yes! |
| 16:32.57 | nullpuppy | yay |
| 16:33.07 | scanlime | nullpuppy: would OMGWTF require multiple inheritance? |
| 16:33.17 | darth_mall | HEHE |
| 16:33.19 | darth_mall | doh |
| 16:33.25 | darth_mall | damned capslock, how did you get turned on |
| 16:33.38 | nullpuppy | haha, hmm, maybe |
| 16:33.45 | file | darth_mall: psychic powers |
| 16:34.17 | scanlime | wow |
| 16:34.20 | scanlime | outlook web access... |
| 16:34.29 | scanlime | does this work outside our LAN? |
| 16:35.01 | scanlime | numist: I'm surprised we have a webmail of any sort set up |
| 16:35.34 | darth_mall | ugh |
| 16:35.38 | ChipX86 | scanlime: yes |
| 16:35.44 | ChipX86 | more or less |
| 16:35.47 | scanlime | hey, cool |
| 16:35.53 | scanlime | yeah.. I'm accessing it from zero with elinks :)( |
| 16:35.54 | darth_mall | why is it better to have a getNRows function rather than just accessing the variable... boo |
| 16:35.59 | file | ChipX86: good response |
| 16:36.08 | scanlime | this would have saved me a couple trips to work late at night :P |
| 16:36.09 | purple_cow | darth_mall: it's called "data hiding" |
| 16:36.14 | darth_mall | =\ |
| 16:36.18 | ChipX86 | scanlime: you really need a keychain |
| 16:36.34 | scanlime | darth_mall: it's because some broken-ass languages (*cough*C++*cough*) don't support read-only public members |
| 16:36.46 | darth_mall | hehe |
| 16:37.00 | scanlime | really that's the only reason to do it |
| 16:37.07 | scanlime | so.. yeah, C++ and Java |
| 16:37.08 | purple_cow | this is weirdly cool |
| 16:37.13 | scanlime | C# and Python don't have thay problem |
| 16:37.13 | purple_cow | it's like xchat-gnome is getting new developers |
| 16:37.21 | ChipX86 | uh oh |
| 16:37.21 | scanlime | s/thay/that/ |
| 16:37.24 | ChipX86 | better make them go away |
| 16:37.26 | darth_mall | purple_cow: I noticed that too |
| 16:37.35 | scanlime | I'm still creeped out by how well elinks supports the mouse |
| 16:37.40 | darth_mall | scanlime: is there a way to make a read only variable in python? |
| 16:37.47 | ChipX86 | yay, no more error 12 :) |
| 16:37.53 | nullpuppy | yay |
| 16:37.55 | scanlime | darth_mall: yes, with properties |
| 16:38.12 | *** join/#tacobeam pagefault (i=Eric@HSE-Quebec-City-ppp128702.qc.sympatico.ca) |
| 16:38.41 | darth_mall | so lecture today is a demonstration of extreme programming |
| 16:38.48 | darth_mall | meaning we're all sitting here watching Amer write code |
| 16:39.09 | purple_cow | hehe |
| 16:39.22 | scanlime | >>> class Logic(object): |
| 16:39.22 | scanlime | ... __apple = 5; |
| 16:39.22 | scanlime | ... def _getApple(self): |
| 16:39.22 | scanlime | ... return self.__apple |
| 16:39.22 | scanlime | ... apple = property(_getApple) |
| 16:39.24 | scanlime | ... |
| 16:39.27 | scanlime | >>> Logic().apple |
| 16:39.30 | scanlime | 5 |
| 16:39.32 | scanlime | >>> Logic().apple = 6 |
| 16:39.35 | scanlime | Traceback (most recent call last): |
| 16:39.37 | scanlime | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:39.40 | scanlime | AttributeError: can't set attribute |
| 16:39.49 | purple_cow | cool |
| 16:39.59 | scanlime | only works in 2.2-style classes |
| 16:40.09 | scanlime | property takes an optional second argument for a set function |
| 16:40.15 | pagefault | gas is insane today |
| 16:40.26 | gonkulator | 3.20 around here a gallon |
| 16:40.35 | scanlime | gonkulator: that's worse than here |
| 16:40.48 | scanlime | you can still find it a little under $3 for regular unleaded |
| 16:41.23 | nullpuppy | 2.90 for regular was the cheapest I saw last night |
| 16:41.23 | gonkulator | yeah, makes me glad I gassed up two days ago |
| 16:41.41 | pagefault | still cheaper than here |
| 16:41.43 | pagefault | $4.20 |
| 16:41.45 | pagefault | per gallon |
| 16:41.52 | nullpuppy | ouch |
| 16:41.59 | gonkulator | dang |
| 16:42.04 | gonkulator | but is that canadian money? |
| 16:42.08 | pagefault | no that is USD |
| 16:42.16 | scanlime | I should bike to work.. it's only 10 miles |
| 16:42.18 | gonkulator | and awe |
| 16:44.18 | darth_mall | scanlime: you should |
| 16:44.28 | darth_mall | next time I see you you'd be totally ripped ^^ |
| 16:44.35 | scanlime | :) |
| 16:44.47 | numist | speaking of which, Im outta here... back in a bit |
| 16:44.50 | scanlime | well, it's a pretty fun ride.. I just need to convince myself to get up earlier so I still get to work at a reasonable time |
| 16:44.52 | darth_mall | you could crack walnuts with your thighs! |
| 16:44.54 | scanlime | :) |
| 16:45.02 | darth_mall | talk about a great party trick |
| 16:45.04 | scanlime | keep in mind how flat this area is :P |
| 16:45.12 | scanlime | it's actually uphill.. but very slightly |
| 16:45.21 | darth_mall | flat is ok |
| 16:45.32 | darth_mall | just don't let yourself coast |
| 16:45.34 | darth_mall | ^ |
| 16:45.36 | darth_mall | erm... ^^ |
| 16:45.38 | scanlime | nod |
| 16:45.42 | scanlime | I should get a fixed-gear bike >:) |
| 16:45.48 | darth_mall | ^^ |
| 16:45.59 | darth_mall | you could just epoxy your shifters ^^ |
| 16:46.10 | scanlime | hehe.. and the freewheel? |
| 16:46.14 | darth_mall | indeed |
| 16:46.28 | scanlime | that would be tricky |
| 16:46.38 | darth_mall | and while you're at it: you're rear break leverl |
| 16:46.43 | darth_mall | s/leverl/level/ |
| 16:46.53 | darth_mall | s/level/lever/ |
| 16:47.01 | scanlime | :) |
| 16:47.04 | darth_mall | is that even spelled right? |
| 16:47.18 | CIA-5 | spacegrant: 03dkuester * r1670 10mck/ (4 files in 3 dirs): STUFF! |
| 16:47.21 | darth_mall | hehe |
| 16:47.26 | darth_mall | go lurgy |
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| 16:48.33 | darth_mall | lurgy|work: nice commit message ^^ |
| 16:50.01 | lurgy|work | yay |
| 16:50.07 | scanlime | need chai... |
| 16:50.12 | scanlime | it's disappearing from the cafeteria quick :) |
| 16:52.12 | pagefault | ah |
| 16:52.14 | pagefault | ok it's not that high |
| 16:52.16 | pagefault | I don't think |
| 16:52.18 | pagefault | I didn't convert properly |
| 16:52.28 | pagefault | it's like $3.50 |
| 16:54.14 | purple_cow | hmm |
| 16:54.28 | file | I need to create a 486 Busy Here scenario... to see how gemini handles it |
| 16:55.17 | purple_cow | "threevo" |
| 16:56.09 | pagefault | hahaha |
| 16:56.13 | scanlime | hehe |
| 16:56.19 | scanlime | kick that horse while he's down! |
| 16:56.20 | pagefault | bell is offering tim horton's gift certificates for ISP troubles |
| 16:56.44 | pagefault | I need to go complain |
| 16:57.11 | file | yes you do! |
| 16:57.14 | pagefault | We all know that some ISP's will give you a credit on your bill if you're having troubles with your connection and demand restitution of some sort. However, a member in our Bell Canada Sympatico forum reports that Bell Canada seems to have taken a new twist on that policy, now giving upset customers $5 gift certificates redeemable at Tim Hortons restaurants, Canada's undisputed champion (or so we're told) of coffee and donuts. |
| 16:57.39 | ChipX86 | hrm. |
| 16:57.41 | ChipX86 | that's weird |
| 16:58.08 | pagefault | http://www.dslreports.com/r0/download/884053~45a76e789ae1fccd5039a2ab9b427082/bell.jpg |
| 16:58.10 | pagefault | a letter |
| 16:58.49 | scanlime | ooh |
| 16:59.10 | scanlime | now I just need to bring some nutmeg to work >:) |
| 16:59.21 | ChipX86 | rhythmbox, you just suck |
| 17:00.38 | scanlime | yep.. my calendar is filling up with meetings |
| 17:01.23 | CIA-5 | spacegrant: 03dkuester * r1671 10mck/data/ground.glade: enable enter happiness in connect dialog |
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| 17:04.21 | scanlime | ChipX86: have you looked at the new espresso machine yet? It takes these weird espresso module packet thingies |
| 17:04.28 | scanlime | or as I call them, EMPs |
| 17:04.33 | ChipX86 | hah |
| 17:05.10 | purple_cow | "toss me the EMP, wouldya?" |
| 17:05.50 | scanlime | Yep.. bad sci-fi is built entirelly around espresso modules |
| 17:06.08 | scanlime | huh |
| 17:06.17 | scanlime | how do I typo "vmplay" as "mplayer"? |
| 17:06.26 | ChipX86 | haha |
| 17:06.33 | ChipX86 | I imagine that's going to start happening more |
| 17:06.40 | ChipX86 | it's like me typoing game as gaim |
| 17:06.45 | scanlime | hehe |
| 17:07.04 | scanlime | is this vmplay script widespread, or is it (like yap) something that only chris and I use? |
| 17:07.17 | scanlime | I guess Dustin uses yap... |
| 17:07.29 | ChipX86 | oh |
| 17:07.30 | ChipX86 | vmplay |
| 17:07.33 | ChipX86 | I was thinking something else |
| 17:07.37 | file | wth is up with this... |
| 17:07.52 | scanlime | it's just a shell script that sets up the environment and runs a locally built vmware |
| 17:08.01 | ChipX86 | erm |
| 17:08.05 | ChipX86 | ./build/obj/ws/vmware ? |
| 17:08.11 | scanlime | goes along with a 'vmsetup' script that installs all the kernel modules and creates symlinks |
| 17:08.15 | ChipX86 | that's a script that sets up an environment and runs the locally built vmware |
| 17:08.31 | ChipX86 | what environment does vmplay set up? |
| 17:08.37 | scanlime | ChipX86: yeah, it's not much more than that :P |
| 17:08.43 | ChipX86 | hah. |
| 17:08.52 | scanlime | let's see... sets ulimit, PRODUCT, OBJDIR, the current directory... |
| 17:08.55 | ChipX86 | I used to just create symlinks in ~/bin, like vmware-ws50, vmware-main, etc |
| 17:09.00 | ChipX86 | but I have way too many trees now |
| 17:09.18 | scanlime | vmsetup is a lot more complicated |
| 17:09.20 | ChipX86 | yay |
| 17:09.24 | ChipX86 | the meeting of happiness |
| 17:09.31 | scanlime | has to use lsof to kill whatever's using vmnet before unloading it, etc |
| 17:09.33 | ChipX86 | coming soon to a Tuesday near me |
| 17:09.43 | ChipX86 | no, I'm not being sarcastic, really |
| 17:09.44 | scanlime | you have happiness meetings? |
| 17:09.46 | scanlime | :P |
| 17:09.46 | ChipX86 | (really, I'm not) |
| 17:09.54 | nullpuppy | hmm, I should go get some food |
| 17:10.01 | ChipX86 | scanlime: we have the morale meeting :) |
| 17:10.07 | scanlime | on tuesdays?? |
| 17:10.08 | ChipX86 | but this is an actual meeting, and is a good meeting |
| 17:10.17 | nullpuppy | review? |
| 17:10.20 | ChipX86 | nope |
| 17:10.23 | ChipX86 | I can't tell you |
| 17:10.27 | ChipX86 | but I assure you, you'll read about it |
| 17:10.27 | nullpuppy | damn |
| 17:10.29 | nullpuppy | ok :) |
| 17:10.32 | nullpuppy | hmm |
| 17:10.33 | ChipX86 | and then you'll know what I set in motiong about 8 months ago |
| 17:10.41 | scanlime | ah, that :) |
| 17:10.42 | nullpuppy | oooh |
| 17:10.57 | ChipX86 | too many of my stupid ideas are becoming policies and projects. Ah well. |
| 17:11.26 | nullpuppy | anyways... need to find tood |
| 17:11.27 | kergoth | yay, home, and yay, food |
| 17:11.28 | scanlime | ChipX86 or I could put your finger on it, but then we'd have to kill you... |
| 17:11.35 | ChipX86 | yes |
| 17:11.40 | ChipX86 | we don't want to do that |
| 17:11.42 | ChipX86 | you make beer |
| 17:11.48 | CIA-5 | spacegrant: 03dkuester * r1672 10mck/ (PyMCK/Ground/Dialogs/ConnectDLG.py data/ground.glade): happier connection dialog behavior |
| 17:11.50 | nullpuppy | :) |
| 17:11.50 | scanlime | ah yes |
| 17:12.03 | scanlime | it turns out that Perry is into making beer, and Dustin's been brewing a lot of odd drinks himself |
| 17:12.17 | ChipX86 | which Dustin? |
| 17:12.19 | scanlime | mead, root beer... |
| 17:12.19 | ChipX86 | because we know this Dustin is |
| 17:12.29 | purple_cow | mead and root beer aren't really odd :P |
| 17:12.39 | scanlime | there were odder things, but I can't remember them |
| 17:12.59 | scanlime | Dustin Byford |
| 17:13.09 | scanlime | apparently the only dustin in the vmweb directory :) |
| 17:13.20 | scanlime | wonder why my picture doesn't show up there yet |
| 17:13.38 | ChipX86 | I hate my picture |
| 17:13.50 | scanlime | it's not bad |
| 17:16.47 | ChipX86 | I so don't want this stomach ache |
| 17:17.33 | numist | having worked in a bike shop, Id like to note that scanlime and darth_mall are insane :) |
| 17:17.38 | scanlime | hah |
| 17:17.44 | numist | its not hard to modify a normal bike to a fixed gear setup :P |
| 17:17.53 | scanlime | well duh, epoxy isn't hard to use |
| 17:17.58 | numist | ... |
| 17:18.01 | numist | I meant the correct way |
| 17:18.03 | numist | :P |
| 17:18.21 | numist | actually, doing it the 'right' way is easier than using epoxy... |
| 17:18.25 | scanlime | hehe |
| 17:18.26 | scanlime | nah |
| 17:18.32 | numist | heh |
| 17:18.35 | scanlime | silly putty is even better for that than epoy |
| 17:18.37 | scanlime | er, epoxy |
| 17:18.44 | numist | :o |
| 17:19.09 | numist | so heather let my cat out this morning when she left for work, and I can't find it... this is bad news |
| 17:19.24 | scanlime | =( |
| 17:19.50 | numist | usually when he's outside he comes up to any of our little area's doors when they open, throwing himself at their feet for attention |
| 17:20.12 | numist | and he's nowhere near the 6 units that are our neighbours |
| 17:20.57 | scanlime | :( |
| 17:20.57 | kergoth | ooh, lua 5.1 alpha is available |
| 17:21.04 | scanlime | what the FUCK |
| 17:21.08 | numist | ? |
| 17:21.08 | scanlime | damn you windows |
| 17:21.14 | scanlime | I just put in a USB flash drive |
| 17:21.16 | numist | an expletive out of scanlime? :o |
| 17:21.18 | scanlime | it wants me to restart my computer |
| 17:21.24 | numist | haha |
| 17:21.24 | scanlime | #$#@!%#@ |
| 17:21.25 | numist | <3 windows |
| 17:21.37 | kergoth | ll |
| 17:21.38 | kergoth | erm |
| 17:21.39 | kergoth | lol |
| 17:22.00 | ChipX86 | gstreamer or something decided it no longer wants to recognize half of my era music collection |
| 17:22.06 | nullpuppy | :( |
| 17:22.09 | numist | :( |
| 17:22.46 | nullpuppy | hmm, /me debates heading into work early. hungry.. nothing really to eat.. but I don't want to waste the gas to go get food, come back home, then go to work |
| 17:23.00 | scanlime | any food at work? |
| 17:23.10 | numist | go get food, and then go to work... the stop at home is redundant :) |
| 17:23.22 | nullpuppy | not really, was thinking of stoping by mcdonalds for cheap breakfast type stuff |
| 17:23.30 | numist | :o |
| 17:23.47 | nullpuppy | hehe |
| 17:23.55 | numist | oh, I thought a few of you might be interested in this... not sure if you've read it at all: http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2004/2/15/71552/7795 |
| 17:23.58 | ChipX86 | bah |
| 17:24.04 | ChipX86 | gstreamer doesn't see the tags on half of these songs |
| 17:24.22 | ChipX86 | scanlime: have you guys ran into that problem where tags seem to be there to some apps but not others? I can't ever fix it |
| 17:24.45 | scanlime | I haven't used rhythmbox hardly at all |
| 17:24.56 | ChipX86 | no, I mean in general |
| 17:25.01 | ChipX86 | I've had this problem on my rio too |
| 17:25.03 | scanlime | tags? oh |
| 17:25.11 | scanlime | haven't seen that |
| 17:25.16 | ChipX86 | hrm |
| 17:25.44 | ChipX86 | half of the Muse music I downloaded from you guys show up on the Rio without name tags |
| 17:26.12 | scanlime | huh |
| 17:26.24 | scanlime | I definitely dont' have that problem |
| 17:26.39 | scanlime | but it could be something odd about the software that comes with the rio |
| 17:26.46 | scanlime | I transferred most of my music using that tool I wrote |
| 17:26.49 | ChipX86 | happens with Media Portal too |
| 17:26.49 | scanlime | which reads tags with mmpython |
| 17:27.12 | ChipX86 | and now gstreamer doesn't see the tags on some of this Era music |
| 17:27.15 | ChipX86 | but the rio does |
| 17:27.25 | ChipX86 | easytag in all cases has seen all the tags for all this music |
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| 17:27.49 | ChipX86 | Cae! |
| 17:27.53 | scanlime | maybe a character encoding issue? I know we have some UTF-8 tags on navi... |
| 17:27.55 | Cae | hehe |
| 17:28.03 | ChipX86 | :) |
| 17:28.15 | scanlime | hiya CAe |
| 17:28.31 | pagefault | greetings |
| 17:29.42 | ChipX86 | we need to get Nat to visit VMware |
| 17:29.51 | ChipX86 | his former roommate works here |
| 17:29.58 | scanlime | :) |
| 17:32.15 | scanlime | wow.. |
| 17:32.23 | scanlime | up to 7 out of the office autoreplies on my commits today :P |
| 17:47.43 | scanlime | http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/050901/480/gagb10409010035 |
| 17:48.05 | ChipX86 | geeze |
| 17:48.39 | ChipX86 | we need an automated fun-list <-> #tacobeam bridge |
| 17:48.48 | scanlime | :) |
| 17:52.50 | ChipX86 | The New Orleans riverfront has been hit by a series of massive blasts, and fires are raging in the area. |
| 17:52.58 | ChipX86 | nature really hates New Orleans |
| 17:53.18 | nullpuppy | yeah |
| 17:53.28 | nullpuppy | tis going to be interesting to see how it changes the city |
| 17:53.37 | ChipX86 | what city? :P |
| 17:53.49 | nullpuppy | hehe |
| 17:53.58 | ChipX86 | Lake New Orleans isn't a place i'd want to live |
| 17:54.03 | scanlime | nullpuppy: at least 80% of it is just gone |
| 17:54.47 | scanlime | I wouldn't be surprised if this changed the structure of the river enough that a lot of it just stays flooded |
| 17:56.04 | ChipX86 | it doesn't sound like from what I've read that they have any serious hope of saving anything |
| 17:56.11 | ChipX86 | it's all about getting whoever's still there out |
| 17:56.39 | ChipX86 | http://www1.1001skins.com/skin_details.html?skin_id=2986 |
| 17:56.43 | nullpuppy | yeah |
| 17:57.19 | scanlime | ChipX86: that's so ugly... |
| 17:57.29 | ChipX86 | it amuses me |
| 17:57.33 | nullpuppy | haha |
| 17:57.35 | nullpuppy | its strongbad! |
| 17:57.42 | ChipX86 | it's Adventure :) |
| 18:00.09 | nullpuppy | ok, w00t, more socket stuff works... time for food and work.. |
| 18:00.10 | ChipX86 | (CNN) -- New Orleans Mayor Ray Nagin blasted the slow pace of federal and state relief efforts in an expletive-laced interview with local radio station WWL-AM. |
| 18:00.32 | nullpuppy|Work | haha, nice |
| 18:00.39 | ChipX86 | "You know the reason why the looters got out of control? Because we had most of our resources saving people, thousands of people that were stuck in attics, man, old ladies. ... You pull off the doggone ventilator vent and you look down there and they're standing in there in water up to their freaking necks." |
| 18:00.44 | ChipX86 | http://edition.cnn.com/2005/US/09/02/nagin.transcript/ |
| 18:04.09 | ChipX86 | "Then they told me that they went overnight, and they built 17 concrete structures and they had the pulleys on them and they were going to drop them. [the 3,000-pound sandbags]" |
| 18:04.14 | ChipX86 | "I flew over that thing yesterday, and it's in the same shape that it was after the storm hit. There is nothing happening. And they're feeding the public a line of bull and they're spinning, and people are dying down here." |
| 18:04.19 | ChipX86 | no surprise. |
| 18:05.29 | nullpuppy|Work | yeah :( |
| 18:08.23 | *** join/#tacobeam Samy (i=samy@shellbox.pulltheplug.org) |
| 18:10.07 | ChipX86 | "And one of the things people -- nobody's talked about this. Drugs flowed in and out of New Orleans and the surrounding metropolitan area so freely it was scary to me, and that's why we were having the escalation in murders. People don't want to talk about this, but I'm going to talk about it." |
| 18:10.40 | ChipX86 | "And right now, they don't have anything to take the edge off. And they've probably found guns. So what you're seeing is drug-starving crazy addicts, drug addicts, that are wrecking havoc." |
| 18:12.00 | scanlime | wow :( |
| 18:12.06 | ChipX86 | scary read |
| 18:12.27 | scanlime | ah, there goes the funlist-#tacobeam bridge |
| 18:12.31 | ChipX86 | yep |
| 18:12.37 | scanlime | I was beginning to think the server it runs on needed a kicik... |
| 18:18.24 | ChipX86 | DANMIT |
| 18:18.29 | ChipX86 | "No repairs were performed on your laptop" |
| 18:19.21 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10bzflag/ (4 files in 4 dirs): add -configdir to the client to let users specify a difrent base dir to use for config/temp/cache/ etc... |
| 18:19.36 | scanlime | ugg |
| 18:19.40 | scanlime | you have it back already? |
| 18:21.46 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 18:21.49 | ChipX86 | and NOTHING WAS DONE |
| 18:21.54 | ChipX86 | the screen is still messed up |
| 18:21.58 | scanlime | what the hell |
| 18:21.59 | ChipX86 | the casing creaks |
| 18:22.13 | ChipX86 | this thing will probably be off when I come home |
| 18:22.35 | ChipX86 | I will never buy another thinkpad. |
| 18:22.46 | ChipX86 | going to head to Sushi Tomo... |
| 18:26.24 | ChipX86 | it's making buzzing sounds |
| 18:26.46 | numist | ChipX86: call IBM :( |
| 18:27.16 | ChipX86 | on the phone now. |
| 18:27.25 | scanlime | lunchtime |
| 18:29.51 | ChipX86 | damn phone. Charge! |
| 18:33.01 | ChipX86 | I've been redirected to Lenovo |
| 18:33.03 | ChipX86 | grr |
| 18:33.10 | ChipX86 | their menu system is one big ad for their website |
| 18:36.47 | ChipX86 | they say they're experiencing an unusually high number of support calls and that I'll be on hold for some time |
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| 18:40.42 | ChipX86 | bah this is taking too long and I have to go |
| 19:14.14 | file[laptop] | yay paycheck |
| 19:28.49 | Samy | file[laptop]: $500? |
| 19:28.50 | Samy | haha |
| 19:29.00 | Samy | You know, I still didn't receive that fucking payment. |
| 19:31.38 | file[laptop] | I haven't either |
| 19:33.31 | Samy | Yay |
| 19:33.34 | Samy | I'm so hungry |
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| 20:24.53 | scanlime | ahh |
| 20:24.56 | scanlime | yay indian buffet |
| 20:28.25 | numist | found the cat :) |
| 20:28.31 | scanlime | woo |
| 20:28.47 | numist | how he got back inside the house is beyond me, since last I checked he was afraid of the doggie door |
| 20:30.26 | scanlime | oh. monday is a holiday... |
| 20:30.35 | numist | Ill be working |
| 20:30.44 | scanlime | nod |
| 20:32.35 | file[laptop] | hrm this account doesn't do too bad on intereest |
| 20:32.37 | file[laptop] | er interest |
| 20:36.51 | darth_mall | grr |
| 20:37.02 | darth_mall | Amer is trying to turn his office hours into another lecture |
| 20:38.37 | scanlime | yay... |
| 20:39.51 | numist | isnt that illegal? |
| 20:40.49 | darth_mall | I dunno about 'illegal' but that's certainly not what office hours are for |
| 20:41.15 | darth_mall | he wants people to just come and hang out with him during his office hours and just chat about the class and related topics |
| 20:46.45 | darth_mall | hrm |
| 20:46.47 | darth_mall | what to listen to |
| 21:04.21 | scanlime | tail -f needs to detect when the file is truncated |
| 21:04.43 | ChipX86 | mmmm that was good stuff |
| 21:04.49 | scanlime | same here :) |
| 21:04.56 | ChipX86 | :) |
| 21:05.00 | scanlime | their vindaloo and spinach were awesome |
| 21:05.04 | pagefault | damnit |
| 21:05.06 | ChipX86 | ooh |
| 21:05.06 | pagefault | you are making me hungry |
| 21:05.10 | pagefault | I love chicken madras |
| 21:05.23 | ChipX86 | I'm going to have to get Sushi Tomo's caterpillar rolls more often |
| 21:05.27 | ChipX86 | crunchy |
| 21:05.29 | scanlime | mmm |
| 21:05.33 | pagefault | did you guys get naan? |
| 21:05.41 | scanlime | ohh, the naan was teriffic |
| 21:05.43 | scanlime | so fresh and warm |
| 21:05.45 | pagefault | yeah |
| 21:05.46 | pagefault | it's so good |
| 21:05.46 | ChipX86 | mmmmmm naan |
| 21:05.51 | ChipX86 | I want some of that |
| 21:05.55 | ChipX86 | oh |
| 21:05.55 | pagefault | it's cool how they make it |
| 21:05.58 | ChipX86 | we're doing games in a couple hours |
| 21:05.58 | scanlime | nod |
| 21:06.02 | pagefault | they slap it on the inside of this huge clay pot |
| 21:06.39 | scanlime | ChipX86: mebbe.. I'd kinda like to get this code tested and sent out for review, then leave somewhat earlyish (4:30 to 5:00) so I can run around and pick up stuff I'll need before this TV comes by |
| 21:06.52 | ChipX86 | ok |
| 21:06.53 | ChipX86 | yeah :) |
| 21:06.56 | scanlime | 8:30 |
| 21:06.59 | ChipX86 | wow |
| 21:07.05 | ChipX86 | I don't think anybody from our team is ever here at that time |
| 21:07.37 | pagefault | hmm |
| 21:07.46 | pagefault | I need to figure out how to turn on the hot coffee thing in GTA |
| 21:07.58 | pagefault | I want to see what the fuss is |
| 21:09.37 | ChipX86 | uh oh, dogfood day |
| 21:09.42 | scanlime | uh oh |
| 21:09.54 | ChipX86 | wonder if there are prizes this time |
| 21:09.58 | scanlime | maybe I should use that as an excuse to fix the serial port bug that broke windbg and caused me to get a native installation ;) |
| 21:09.59 | ChipX86 | last time, ipods and stuff were being given away |
| 21:10.10 | ChipX86 | yay, prizes |
| 21:10.19 | scanlime | how exactly does dogfood day work? |
| 21:10.20 | ChipX86 | Yes, we'll be doing 1st, 2nd and 3rd place prizes for the top 3 journals. |
| 21:10.21 | ChipX86 | Cash? nope, we're giving away 3 gifts this time. Great stuff! |
| 21:10.38 | ChipX86 | scanlime: we have lists of things to test. We test them and document the steps and problems and stuff |
| 21:10.41 | ChipX86 | I didn't actually do it last year |
| 21:10.46 | ChipX86 | I was on vacation |
| 21:10.56 | *** join/#tacobeam Cae (n=mschneid@Bloc-14.isc.TAMU.EDU) |
| 21:11.00 | ChipX86 | Cae! |
| 21:11.04 | Cae | LOL |
| 21:11.08 | scanlime | hehe |
| 21:11.12 | Cae | Chip is clearly a bot |
| 21:11.14 | scanlime | ChipX86: did you see tony's interview question? |
| 21:11.18 | ChipX86 | scanlime: nope |
| 21:11.22 | ChipX86 | Cae: I am not a bot! |
| 21:11.24 | scanlime | on hosted-solutions |
| 21:11.34 | ChipX86 | ooh |
| 21:11.36 | scanlime | Silly ChipX86-bot, all bots are programmed to say they're not bots |
| 21:11.38 | ChipX86 | will read after sending in the status report |
| 21:12.06 | scanlime | they're always easier when you aren't all nervous on interview day :) |
| 21:12.16 | ChipX86 | yep |
| 21:12.23 | ChipX86 | I didn't think I passed |
| 21:12.27 | scanlime | yeah |
| 21:12.31 | scanlime | it gets kinda crazy |
| 21:12.51 | scanlime | and I'm hearing constantly about my teammates interviewing people and going through resumes, rejecting pretty much everyone |
| 21:12.58 | ChipX86 | woah, I did stuff this week |
| 21:13.01 | ChipX86 | when did this all happen |
| 21:13.01 | scanlime | :) |
| 21:13.11 | ChipX86 | scanlime: yeah, we reject so many people at this company |
| 21:13.23 | ChipX86 | Dianne talks a lot about how we only hire the best of the best. It's policy |
| 21:13.34 | scanlime | hopefully that will continue, so vmware looks reeeally good on a resume |
| 21:13.39 | ChipX86 | she said if you hire "A" people, they'll hire "A" people. If you hire "B" people, they'll hire "C" people |
| 21:13.46 | scanlime | hehe |
| 21:13.48 | scanlime | so true |
| 21:13.48 | ChipX86 | I imagine it will |
| 21:13.54 | ChipX86 | since this has been going on since the company started |
| 21:14.59 | ChipX86 | yay! |
| 21:15.05 | ChipX86 | how many of them are Galago? |
| 21:15.13 | Cae | um. two? |
| 21:15.20 | Cae | sssoort of |
| 21:15.22 | ChipX86 | oh no! |
| 21:15.27 | ChipX86 | Cae: really? |
| 21:15.33 | ChipX86 | scanlime: I can't bridge the latest fun-list e-mail :( |
| 21:15.59 | scanlime | ChipX86: you need to add an HTTP proxy to your bridge |
| 21:16.00 | Cae | ChipX86: well, right now I'm working on making phpauction work, for a friend |
| 21:16.03 | scanlime | HTTP over IRC over fun-list |
| 21:16.12 | ChipX86 | :) |
| 21:16.19 | ChipX86 | Cae: how are any of them Galago? |
| 21:16.24 | ChipX86 | is someone using Galago for Secret Projects? |
| 21:16.41 | Cae | it's mostly got a lot of php errors. though right now I'm trying to find out how exactly a random user will register...since the page where they should be registering..uh..has no form.. |
| 21:17.01 | Cae | which I find...interesting |
| 21:17.30 | ChipX86 | As of |
| 21:17.31 | ChipX86 | yesterday, EMC had received $68,000 in employee donations. |
| 21:17.39 | Cae | the point at which I go "screw it, too many bugs, just doing a diff" was about 6 hours ago |
| 21:17.40 | ChipX86 | (for Katrina, which EMC matches) |
| 21:17.46 | Cae | nice |
| 21:17.52 | ChipX86 | Cae: heh |
| 21:17.53 | ChipX86 | fun |
| 21:18.00 | Cae | but it's fun... |
| 21:18.07 | Cae | it's just..mildly evil |
| 21:18.11 | scanlime | diffs between diffs annoy me |
| 21:18.47 | file[laptop] | oh wow it just hit me |
| 21:19.04 | file[laptop] | my desk will be paid for by my consulting from last month |
| 21:19.08 | file[laptop] | I totally forgot about it |
| 21:19.10 | ChipX86 | :) nice |
| 21:19.32 | ChipX86 | heh, at lunch today, somehow we got into the topic of $150 tanktops (basically, over-expensive items) |
| 21:19.48 | scanlime | monster cables! |
| 21:19.50 | ChipX86 | Jocelyn mentioned the $150 tank tops. I said I would never buy clothes that expensive |
| 21:20.02 | scanlime | it's *DVI-D* |
| 21:20.04 | ChipX86 | Surendra was like, "Christian, I don't ever want to see you in a tank top. I'll pay you $300 not to wear a $150 tank top." |
| 21:20.05 | scanlime | no analog! none! |
| 21:20.08 | ChipX86 | I said, "Okay, it's a deal!" |
| 21:20.11 | scanlime | haha |
| 21:20.22 | Cae | Chip's whiteness would be blinding |
| 21:20.30 | Cae | it would be like the sun, in human form |
| 21:20.34 | file[laptop] | ChipX86: I'll pay you $301 to wear a $150 tank top! |
| 21:20.35 | Cae | but not as round |
| 21:20.41 | ChipX86 | Lisa said, "I want in on this! What will you pay me to not wear something?" |
| 21:20.43 | scanlime | what the... |
| 21:20.45 | ChipX86 | we went silent |
| 21:20.51 | ChipX86 | "That's a dangerous question." |
| 21:20.51 | file[laptop] | ...in monopoly money |
| 21:20.54 | scanlime | haha |
| 21:20.59 | Cae | ChipX86: hehe |
| 21:22.03 | ChipX86 | scanlime: across the entire UI team, we have 60 bugs for the next RC |
| 21:22.10 | ChipX86 | we fixed 70 bugs last week :) |
| 21:22.25 | scanlime | wow |
| 21:22.58 | Cae | wow. poor steve. |
| 21:23.08 | Cae | I really must get him drunk and take advantage of him at some point. |
| 21:23.15 | Cae | ohh wait..I typed that. hm. |
| 21:23.20 | Cae | O:) |
| 21:23.33 | file[laptop] | silly Cae |
| 21:23.47 | ChipX86 | Cae: more girls need to be like you |
| 21:23.51 | Cae | trust me, I'm not his type :) |
| 21:24.02 | darth_mall | Cae: it's alright, some people like being taken advantage of |
| 21:24.07 | ChipX86 | btw, you usually don't actually have to get the guy drunk |
| 21:24.17 | Cae | no. I mean I'm *really* not his type. |
| 21:24.27 | ChipX86 | is he gay? |
| 21:24.35 | Cae | we have a winner :) |
| 21:24.43 | ChipX86 | ok, really drunk |
| 21:24.51 | file[laptop] | Cae: 6 beers. |
| 21:24.57 | ChipX86 | plus a strap-on probably |
| 21:25.08 | Cae | I'm...not going to have this conversation |
| 21:25.09 | file[laptop] | ChipX86 is an expert |
| 21:25.14 | ChipX86 | file[laptop]: I'm really not |
| 21:25.27 | file[laptop] | ChipX86: a likely story. |
| 21:25.29 | Cae | you're too modest, Chip |
| 21:25.40 | ChipX86 | :( |
| 21:25.44 | Cae | just admit it. you're GOOD. |
| 21:26.00 | ChipX86 | I wouldn't know |
| 21:26.48 | ChipX86 | "This highly technical change allows the kernel to jump atop the Eiffel Tower, fly with acceleration fifty times that of a space shuttle, and ingest 15 times its own weight." |
| 21:26.49 | scanlime | http://zero.navi.cx/gallery/software/wtf |
| 21:27.11 | ChipX86 | scanlime: oh I've seen that so many times |
| 21:27.12 | file[laptop] | scanlime: oh yeah that, I've done that |
| 21:27.17 | scanlime | what the hell is it? |
| 21:27.26 | ChipX86 | this one spyware program would kill lsass.exe if you tried to shut it down |
| 21:27.33 | ChipX86 | and you can't prevent lsass.exe from shutting down windows when it dies |
| 21:27.36 | ChipX86 | it's annoying as hell |
| 21:27.43 | darth_mall | awesome |
| 21:27.45 | scanlime | this is a nearly fresh win2k install, inside a VM |
| 21:27.49 | ChipX86 | hmmm |
| 21:29.18 | ChipX86 | such good music |
| 21:29.36 | pagefault | him? |
| 21:29.45 | ChipX86 | a good band |
| 21:29.54 | ChipX86 | used to stand for His Infernal Majesty, but now it's just HIM |
| 21:30.00 | file[laptop] | yay Friday |
| 21:30.08 | ChipX86 | oh hey, we got paid the other day, right? |
| 21:30.12 | scanlime | yup |
| 21:30.17 | ChipX86 | neat |
| 21:30.19 | scanlime | my direct-deposit worked :) |
| 21:30.22 | ChipX86 | yay! |
| 21:30.34 | file[laptop] | scanlime: that's because you're awesome |
| 21:30.44 | scanlime | aw shucks |
| 21:31.32 | pagefault | whats up for the win |
| 21:32.24 | ChipX86 | I love this VM |
| 21:32.26 | pagefault | MSDOS? |
| 21:32.28 | scanlime | hehe |
| 21:32.34 | ChipX86 | it was made for a screenshot |
| 21:32.37 | ChipX86 | it has no OS in it though |
| 21:32.43 | scanlime | aw |
| 21:32.45 | pagefault | you guys need to add a sound device that works in DOS |
| 21:32.45 | scanlime | mine actually has dOS |
| 21:32.55 | scanlime | shouldn't the sb16 work? |
| 21:33.02 | pagefault | I don't think it does |
| 21:33.05 | ChipX86 | should |
| 21:33.11 | pagefault | i've heard a lot of people say it doesn't work |
| 21:33.15 | scanlime | shouldn't you be using dosbox? :) |
| 21:33.21 | pagefault | no way |
| 21:33.23 | pagefault | dosbox is too slow |
| 21:33.32 | scanlime | dosbox has teriffic video and sound emulation |
| 21:33.34 | ChipX86 | slow like a fox! |
| 21:33.46 | pagefault | dosbox might be useful when we don't have x86 anymore |
| 21:33.49 | pagefault | but I think a VM is better |
| 21:33.56 | scanlime | vmware is never going to match it unless we all of a sudden get a big enterprise customer trying to run their database with sound and mode-x graphics in DOS |
| 21:34.14 | pagefault | everything works fine in the dos VM |
| 21:34.17 | pagefault | but I mean it's just the sound |
| 21:34.23 | scanlime | our VGA emulation sucks compared to dosbox |
| 21:34.33 | pagefault | ahh |
| 21:34.57 | ChipX86 | we really need someone to get our video support to work better |
| 21:34.59 | scanlime | vmware's VGA is designed to be enough to boot an OS, whereas dosbox actually runs a lot of the crazy video code in old games and demos |
| 21:35.11 | pagefault | yeah |
| 21:35.30 | ChipX86 | we need an intern for that. |
| 21:35.30 | scanlime | I agree it would be a great thing to work on, but we probably have more important problems right now |
| 21:35.39 | scanlime | yeah, that would be a great intern project |
| 21:35.45 | ChipX86 | pfft |
| 21:35.49 | ChipX86 | we've solved every other problem |
| 21:35.53 | ChipX86 | all that's left is the video emulation |
| 21:36.00 | scanlime | "Here, make these programs work.. commander keen, second reality, scream tracker 3..." |
| 21:36.09 | ChipX86 | TIM |
| 21:36.11 | ChipX86 | TIM! |
| 21:36.11 | scanlime | yep |
| 21:36.20 | scanlime | ChipX86: we're focusing on other areas of video emulation right now :) |
| 21:36.21 | pagefault | hehe |
| 21:36.32 | ChipX86 | scanlime: but not for TIMmy :( |
| 21:36.35 | ChipX86 | but yes |
| 21:36.40 | ChipX86 | and I saw the new hire on that. Yay |
| 21:36.43 | scanlime | yup |
| 21:36.48 | Cae | aha |
| 21:36.50 | scanlime | we already have several people full-time working on that |
| 21:36.51 | Cae | that's why |
| 21:37.03 | ChipX86 | Project Ubercool |
| 21:37.13 | scanlime | that new hire is the guy that we went out to lunch today for :) |
| 21:37.22 | ChipX86 | ah nice |
| 21:37.32 | scanlime | the mks team is a strange contraption |
| 21:37.38 | Cae | for whatever reason they were using $REQUEST_METHOD to determine GET/POST...but it isn't setting anything. because they aren't really using anything. |
| 21:37.54 | scanlime | it's really more like two or three really tiny teams that talk to each other a lot |
| 21:37.55 | ChipX86 | gahhh |
| 21:37.59 | ChipX86 | I just don't know the right way to do this.. |
| 21:38.07 | ChipX86 | where the hell is Ben Chambers :( |
| 21:38.30 | ChipX86 | uh oh |
| 21:38.36 | ChipX86 | oil spill south of New Orleans |
| 21:38.42 | pagefault | I am thinking about going with this as my company name |
| 21:38.48 | Cae | ChipX86: greeeaaaaat |
| 21:38.50 | pagefault | i - d - 10 - t recovery |
| 21:38.55 | file[laptop] | LOL |
| 21:39.03 | ChipX86 | pagefault: nice |
| 21:39.07 | pagefault | they won't know what it is :)( |
| 21:39.08 | scanlime | heh |
| 21:39.14 | pagefault | id0it recovery |
| 21:39.16 | pagefault | err |
| 21:39.18 | pagefault | idi0t |
| 21:39.21 | Cae | um..shouldn't request method always have a value in php.. |
| 21:39.59 | pagefault | idi0t is l33t |
| 21:40.01 | pagefault | hehe |
| 21:40.08 | pagefault | do people even still use l33tsp34k |
| 21:40.27 | ChipX86 | yes |
| 21:40.34 | Cae | there's the 700-1337 error |
| 21:40.54 | scanlime | is that where your BIOS beeps 700 times, then 1337 times? |
| 21:41.04 | Cae | myep |
| 21:41.05 | pagefault | I wonder which x86 instruction is 13 37 |
| 21:41.26 | ChipX86 | I have no idea who should review this |
| 21:41.43 | scanlime | I'll review it! I'm teh UI ninj4 |
| 21:41.53 | ChipX86 | it's in vmx-land |
| 21:42.03 | scanlime | s/ninj4/ninj-four/ |
| 21:42.24 | Cae | great. their design doesn't work, for whatever reason. how to fix it.. |
| 21:42.36 | file[laptop] | Cae: set it on fire, that always makes things work |
| 21:42.50 | numist | ChipX86: I probably shouldnt bring this up, but any progress with IBM now that theyve really screwed the pooch? |
| 21:43.16 | pagefault | I think double rot13 encryption should be used in all security situations |
| 21:43.24 | ChipX86 | numist: I have to call Lenovo and talk to their department |
| 21:43.28 | scanlime | pagefault: it already is |
| 21:43.28 | numist | :( |
| 21:43.41 | ChipX86 | I tried to reach Elaine, the lady who said everything was being repaired |
| 21:43.53 | ChipX86 | the person said they couldn't locate Elaine in that department |
| 21:43.53 | numist | how many elaine's are there? |
| 21:43.56 | numist | ouch |
| 21:43.58 | ChipX86 | so who knows what the hell is going on |
| 21:44.02 | numist | :( |
| 21:44.07 | ChipX86 | I will never touch another IBM/Lenovo product |
| 21:44.16 | numist | next time dept name and extension :) |
| 21:44.16 | ChipX86 | well, I'll never spend money on one |
| 21:44.16 | Cae | :\ |
| 21:44.19 | numist | :( |
| 21:44.20 | file[laptop] | do they even know where your laptop is in their massive empire of doom? |
| 21:44.20 | ChipX86 | this is simply unacceptable |
| 21:44.25 | ChipX86 | file[laptop]: it's back here |
| 21:44.30 | ChipX86 | they kept it for 1.5 weeks and didn't do a thing |
| 21:44.30 | numist | file[laptop]: he;s got it |
| 21:44.34 | file[laptop] | bastards |
| 21:44.34 | ChipX86 | they did lie to me on the phone, however |
| 21:44.42 | numist | and thats recorded |
| 21:44.44 | file[laptop] | I record all my phone calls |
| 21:44.49 | ChipX86 | numist: apparently not |
| 21:44.51 | Cae | all of them? |
| 21:44.53 | numist | file[laptop]: IBM records service calls... |
| 21:44.53 | pagefault | thanks for all the fish |
| 21:44.55 | ChipX86 | the person who told me all this never logged any of it |
| 21:44.56 | numist | ChipX86: no? ouch |
| 21:45.08 | ChipX86 | there's no records of this Elaine person ever contacting me about this |
| 21:45.11 | file[laptop] | Cae: yes, then about once a month I only keep those that are relevant |
| 21:45.11 | ChipX86 | according to the person I spoke to |
| 21:45.44 | ChipX86 | she even put me on hold for 10 mins and came back saying she went to the repair room and that she confirmed that the problems were all fixed |
| 21:46.14 | ChipX86 | but then after they sent it, someone called me saying they sent it back and they couldn't find anything wrong and didn't fix anything. She had no idea that this Elaine person contacted me |
| 21:46.21 | ChipX86 | and the sheet says they did nothing, and it's still broken |
| 21:46.24 | ChipX86 | and now it makes a buzzing sound |
| 21:46.44 | ChipX86 | I've lost all respect. |
| 21:46.55 | numist | sorry, chippy |
| 21:46.59 | numist | sushi next week? |
| 21:47.05 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 21:47.09 | ChipX86 | when? |
| 21:47.40 | numist | lemme see when I told my roommates I was leaving, since I have to be here to give the new guy the key, and Ill be the only person around |
| 21:48.07 | Cae | hm. I think one of my friend's boyfriends is flirting with me. |
| 21:48.17 | numist | hmm... when is fuki open? |
| 21:48.17 | Cae | should I flay him lengthwise or widthwise.. |
| 21:48.27 | pagefault | you sound like a nice person |
| 21:48.29 | numist | Cae: lay him out flat |
| 21:48.43 | scanlime | Cae: you watch Invader Zim? You remind me of Gaz somtimes... |
| 21:49.01 | numist | scanlime/chppy: what are you guys doing for lunch on Friday? |
| 21:49.16 | scanlime | a week from today? |
| 21:49.20 | numist | nod |
| 21:49.29 | numist | Ill have an n64 ;) |
| 21:51.14 | scanlime | so yeah, I don't see why we couldn't sushi together or something :) |
| 21:51.25 | scanlime | hi TD |
| 21:51.35 | *** join/#tacobeam lurgy|work (n=dkuester@dlc75-99-dhcp.colorado.edu) |
| 21:52.36 | ChipX86 | great. I'm somehow activating a feature that we is set to not be activatable, and it's driving me insane. |
| 21:56.07 | pagefault | this is pissing me off |
| 21:56.09 | pagefault | beyond belief |
| 21:56.19 | ChipX86 | ? |
| 21:56.22 | pagefault | I need dns servers that work |
| 21:59.52 | lurgy|work | hi Cae |
| 22:00.07 | scanlime | sigh.. all of this is working, except some code I never touched |
| 22:01.37 | Cae | how're you? |
| 22:05.46 | purple_cow | ? |
| 22:05.50 | scanlime | damn.. the 24-pack of chai in the cafeteria is already almost gone |
| 22:06.03 | pagefault | better make a move |
| 22:06.14 | scanlime | it comes out absolutely perfect if you add just a little hot water, mix thoroughly with the powder, then add half milk half hot water |
| 22:06.28 | pagefault | how much caffeine does that stuff have |
| 22:06.35 | scanlime | dunno.. probably not much |
| 22:07.14 | pagefault | hmm |
| 22:07.15 | pagefault | how much caffeine does that stuff have |
| 22:07.16 | pagefault | oh |
| 22:07.17 | pagefault | nm |
| 22:07.31 | scanlime | arrrr |
| 22:07.33 | scanlime | typo |
| 22:07.34 | pagefault | do you brew it like normal tea? |
| 22:07.45 | scanlime | pagefault: heh... |
| 22:07.57 | scanlime | pagefault: the chai you buy at the supermarket comes as a concentrate or a powder, you just add water |
| 22:07.58 | lurgy|work | purple_cow: ?? |
| 22:08.01 | scanlime | making it from scratch is much harder |
| 22:08.02 | pagefault | oh |
| 22:08.10 | pagefault | hmm if it has some caffeine I will try it out |
| 22:08.12 | purple_cow | lurgy|work: why are you cranky? |
| 22:08.17 | lurgy|work | purple_cow: no reason at all |
| 22:08.18 | pagefault | I need caffine to work :) |
| 22:08.28 | scanlime | pagefault: heh.. it tastes great, who cares if it has caffeine |
| 22:08.32 | pagefault | hehe |
| 22:09.11 | scanlime | $ svn commit -m "Arrrrr...." |
| 22:09.26 | pagefault | haha |
| 22:09.39 | pagefault | not to vmware I hope |
| 22:09.43 | scanlime | yes |
| 22:09.52 | scanlime | but we don't use svn company-wide... |
| 22:10.00 | pagefault | ahh |
| 22:10.02 | scanlime | this is a local svn repository that tracks my yap paches against the p4 repository :P |
| 22:10.21 | scanlime | so 'svn diff' gives me diffs of diffs. blah. |
| 22:11.25 | scanlime | I don't know if the whole company is like this, but the way chris and I work, we group our changes into separate patches that might themselves go through several iterations, then those get applied once to the p4 tree |
| 22:11.56 | ToyKeeper | Arrr! |
| 22:12.14 | scanlime | my svn is just a file:// repository that points to an NFS mount |
| 22:12.16 | scanlime | ToyKeeper: yay! |
| 22:12.41 | ToyKeeper | Sounds like you could use darcs instead of svn+p4. |
| 22:13.08 | purple_cow | ToyKeeper: he doesn't have a choice about the p4 :P |
| 22:13.13 | scanlime | uhhuh :P |
| 22:13.20 | ToyKeeper | Doesn't p4 have branching you could use instead of a local repo? |
| 22:13.34 | scanlime | p4 has branching, but it's a very heavy non-local operation |
| 22:13.38 | purple_cow | and darcs' command set is rediculous |
| 22:13.42 | scanlime | yap patches are super-lightweight and easy to maintain |
| 22:13.43 | purple_cow | "whatsnew" ?! |
| 22:13.59 | scanlime | I just use svn on my yap patches so I can track the history of my changes as I work on them |
| 22:14.07 | ChipX86 | I need a system like that set up |
| 22:14.11 | scanlime | but after I submit them to p4, the svn history isn't important |
| 22:14.17 | scanlime | ChipX86: ask chris about yap |
| 22:14.21 | ToyKeeper | I'm not particularly fond of darcs, but it seems like it's at least got the right features. |
| 22:14.30 | ToyKeeper | Or,... wait. Doesn't svk support p4? |
| 22:15.00 | scanlime | ToyKeeper: patch and diff are your friends |
| 22:15.13 | scanlime | yap is just a really simple python tool to make it easier to manage stacks of patches |
| 22:15.25 | scanlime | you can easily jump around to different points in your stack |
| 22:15.28 | ToyKeeper | Spiff. I'll have to look at yap sometime. |
| 22:15.34 | scanlime | or pull out all the patches, update your p4 tree, then push them back in |
| 22:15.56 | scanlime | well, yap's our internal tool.. it would need a hell of a lot of polishing before it became a released open source tool if chris wanted to release it |
| 22:16.00 | scanlime | but it's a lot like quilt |
| 22:16.42 | ToyKeeper | Man. This company had someone replace their router with two ultramonkey HA servers, and it's just caused no end of problems (and significant downtime). |
| 22:16.42 | scanlime | I'm sure a lot of people have thin wrappers like this around patch and diff |
| 22:17.20 | ToyKeeper | ... just ironic. It caused what it was built to prevent. |
| 22:18.13 | scanlime | about as ironic as rain on your wedding day :P |
| 22:21.04 | scanlime | hehehe |
| 22:21.15 | scanlime | ChipX86: tony posted a summary of the answers to the interview question thingy |
| 22:21.46 | ChipX86 | I still haven't had a chance ot read it |
| 22:21.58 | scanlime | huh. your mail broken? |
| 22:23.38 | scanlime | hrm |
| 22:23.44 | scanlime | tomboy needs a mode for pasting code fragments |
| 22:23.54 | ChipX86 | nah, just got a showstopper bug now |
| 22:24.01 | scanlime | maybe puts them in an indented box with a border, in a monospace font, with spell checking off |
| 22:24.05 | scanlime | ah |
| 22:24.43 | scanlime | hehe |
| 22:24.51 | scanlime | Tam's telling everyone about his -$10 motherboard |
| 22:25.13 | scanlime | Fry's had a CPU he wanted for $70, but they also had a bundle with that CPU plus a motherboard for $60 |
| 22:25.41 | ToyKeeper | Hmm. I know a Tam, but she's female. |
| 22:26.16 | ChipX86 | scanlime: haha |
| 22:26.39 | ChipX86 | this is going to suck. |
| 22:26.41 | scanlime | I might need to pick up a motherboard... so I can have both a HTPC and a desktop computer again |
| 22:26.41 | Cae | okay, home |
| 22:27.23 | purple_cow | scanlime: you could probably write a code fragment plugin |
| 22:27.34 | ChipX86 | or just walk in and bug alex enough |
| 22:27.50 | ChipX86 | where's beer bash this week? Hillview? |
| 22:28.02 | scanlime | I think so... |
| 22:28.05 | ChipX86 | damn |
| 22:28.20 | ToyKeeper | Hmm. |
| 22:28.57 | scanlime | uh |
| 22:29.04 | scanlime | you might want to think about booting off a CD... |
| 22:29.21 | scanlime | or at least chroot'ing into a ramdisk and turning off swap |
| 22:29.26 | ToyKeeper | Heh. |
| 22:29.42 | ChipX86 | nah, you want your swap partition in the middle of system32.dll |
| 22:29.52 | scanlime | that's a big DLL |
| 22:29.55 | scanlime | or a small swap partition |
| 22:30.06 | ToyKeeper | If it'd let me remount root ro, it should work... copy then reboot. But it won't. :( |
| 22:30.11 | ChipX86 | size doesn't matter, scanlime |
| 22:30.15 | ChipX86 | it's how you use the swap space that counts |
| 22:30.20 | scanlime | thanks :P |
| 22:30.24 | pagefault | file[laptop], guess what time it is |
| 22:30.41 | file[laptop] | pagefault: 6:30PM for you! |
| 22:30.47 | pagefault | no it's swiss chalet time |
| 22:30.53 | file[laptop] | excellent |
| 22:30.54 | pagefault | swiss chalet you want it, I know you do |
| 22:30.56 | ToyKeeper | Hmm. Maybe If I'm lucky, there's an extra IDE connector around here somewhere. |
| 22:31.49 | file[laptop] | pagefault: what'cha getting? |
| 22:32.01 | ToyKeeper | Or... I could do this later, at home, where I have tools. |
| 22:32.21 | pagefault | not sure |
| 22:32.25 | ToyKeeper | ... shouldn't take *too* long to download the disk image. |
| 22:32.42 | pagefault | bob marley is amazing |
| 22:32.50 | pagefault | at least some of his songs are |
| 22:33.14 | scanlime | ChipX86: snapshot manager makes me so happy |
| 22:33.59 | ChipX86 | :) |
| 22:36.50 | file[laptop] | I should wibble wobble over to my desk |
| 22:43.22 | ToyKeeper | ... snapshots in p4? |
| 22:43.25 | ToyKeeper | I'm curious. |
| 22:43.58 | ToyKeeper | Oh, er, vmware, probably. :) |
| 22:43.59 | ToyKeeper | Duh. |
| 22:44.05 | ToyKeeper | Yeah, vmware snapshots are great. |
| 22:44.35 | ToyKeeper | Somebody should use it to do a timeattack, like they do with nintendo games. |
| 22:44.42 | ToyKeeper | "I beat Windows in 37 seconds!" |
| 22:44.55 | ChipX86 | woot |
| 22:44.59 | ChipX86 | the scariest of bugs can often be fixed by swapping two lines |
| 22:44.59 | scanlime | I beat windows lots more often than 37 seconds.. usually with something very sharp |
| 22:45.06 | ChipX86 | I thought we were going to spend hours on that one. |
| 22:46.01 | ChipX86 | we called SetDirty and then set a property, in that order, in that function, one line after the other |
| 22:46.12 | ChipX86 | for every device |
| 22:46.16 | ChipX86 | then wondered why t hey were all dirty |
| 22:46.32 | scanlime | :) |
| 22:50.46 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03evan * r8851 10xchat-gnome/fe-gnome/ (ChangeLog navigation-tree.c xchat-gnome-ui.xml): |
| 22:50.46 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: Apply Guillame Desmottes' patch that adds an Autojoin option to the context menu |
| 22:50.47 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: on servers and channels. |
| 22:56.56 | purple_cow | yay, looks like we got our project |
| 22:57.04 | scanlime | woo |
| 22:59.01 | ChipX86 | woot |
| 22:59.07 | ChipX86 | massive change ends up being tiny :D |
| 23:00.20 | scanlime | know anywhere good to get a TV stand? fry's has some nice ones, but they're muchly pricy |
| 23:00.57 | scanlime | though it looks like entertainment center type furniture in general tends to be a bit on the pricy side... |
| 23:01.09 | ChipX86 | it really is |
| 23:01.11 | scanlime | how much was your gigantic one? |
| 23:01.16 | ChipX86 | about $2000 |
| 23:01.18 | scanlime | wow |
| 23:01.21 | ChipX86 | just under |
| 23:01.22 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 23:01.35 | scanlime | I'm definitely not going to pay as much as I paid for my TV just to have a nice cage for it ;) |
| 23:01.36 | ChipX86 | tax refund bought all my furniture :P |
| 23:01.41 | ChipX86 | otherwise I wouldn't have bought it |
| 23:01.45 | scanlime | nod |
| 23:01.59 | jeffm2501 | I got mine at bestbuy |
| 23:02.05 | jeffm2501 | nice corner unit |
| 23:02.09 | scanlime | I'm thinking more along the lines of a multi-shelf type TV stand, so I can put the mi6k and such underneath.. then some pillar things to each side for speakers and other equipment |
| 23:02.17 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 23:02.19 | ChipX86 | froogle? |
| 23:02.24 | scanlime | yeah |
| 23:02.46 | scanlime | I'll see if I can find something I like on froogle.. I actually found some locally that are pretty nice, but more than I think they're worth |
| 23:03.02 | ChipX86 | I am sooo happy about this change |
| 23:03.07 | ChipX86 | it's been on my plate for about 7 months |
| 23:03.19 | ChipX86 | hahaha |
| 23:03.26 | scanlime | fry's had this nice glass and metal TV stand for over $200.. and then target had these glass and wood pillar plus drawer things for $100 each |
| 23:03.27 | ChipX86 | Subject: Order your drugs here and get toll-free customer support |
| 23:03.33 | scanlime | ooh, drugs :P |
| 23:04.42 | ChipX86 | which? |
| 23:05.07 | scanlime | "The features supported by the processor(s) in this machine are different from the features supported by the processor(s) in the machine on which the snapshot was saved..." |
| 23:05.13 | ChipX86 | ahh |
| 23:05.21 | jeffm2501 | scanlime, you may want to look factory direct |
| 23:05.22 | jeffm2501 | http://retailer.osullivan.com/CGI-BIN/LANSAWEB?WEBEVENT+R0A0CC88932173394D8E271Q+CEP+ENG |
| 23:06.16 | scanlime | that's a stylish looking completely white page |
| 23:07.05 | jeffm2501 | heh |
| 23:07.06 | jeffm2501 | http://www.osullivan.com/ |
| 23:07.09 | jeffm2501 | session crap |
| 23:07.23 | jeffm2501 | unless you want like metal |
| 23:07.26 | jeffm2501 | they just do wood |
| 23:07.48 | scanlime | oww |
| 23:07.51 | scanlime | http://www.osullivanoutlet.com/productcart/pc/viewPrd.asp?idproduct=937 |
| 23:07.53 | scanlime | I like stuff like that |
| 23:07.55 | scanlime | but $300? |
| 23:08.18 | jeffm2501 | there are places on the net that just resell that kinda stuff |
| 23:08.20 | file[laptop] | yow'sa it's $399 |
| 23:08.25 | jeffm2501 | metal does cost more |
| 23:08.36 | scanlime | yea |
| 23:08.39 | scanlime | well. |
| 23:08.51 | scanlime | my metal + glass coffee table plus end table set was only $150 |
| 23:09.07 | scanlime | but I have no idea what middle eastern country they're trucking it over from.. it's been a week and I still don't have it |
| 23:09.16 | jeffm2501 | http://www.ifurn.com/osullivan_20078.html |
| 23:09.18 | jeffm2501 | 264 |
| 23:09.33 | scanlime | so maybe the prices at target and fry's aren't as bad as I thought |
| 23:09.41 | jeffm2501 | target stuff is CRAP |
| 23:09.46 | jeffm2501 | this I can attest to |
| 23:09.48 | scanlime | yes, cheap crap that I can afford |
| 23:09.54 | jeffm2501 | it's weak |
| 23:09.55 | jeffm2501 | very weak |
| 23:10.02 | scanlime | and the pieces don't fit together right |
| 23:10.11 | scanlime | purple_cow: hmm... |
| 23:10.15 | jeffm2501 | the "cube" system isn't bad tho |
| 23:10.19 | jeffm2501 | I've used that with out fail |
| 23:10.28 | jeffm2501 | it lets you design what you want from standardised parts |
| 23:10.29 | scanlime | purple_cow: not sure I'd trust a $16 stand to hold a very heavy $1800 plasma, but that's better than $300 |
| 23:11.22 | purple_cow | hehe |
| 23:11.38 | scanlime | yay |
| 23:11.41 | scanlime | payday for you? |
| 23:11.53 | purple_cow | no |
| 23:11.58 | jeffm2501 | my TV is on one of these |
| 23:11.59 | jeffm2501 | http://www.target.com/gp/detail.html/sr=1-1/qid=1125702708/ref=sr_1_1/602-6533596-2971013?%5Fencoding=UTF8&asin=B0006I21DU |
| 23:12.02 | jeffm2501 | with an insert |
| 23:12.06 | purple_cow | that goes into the account directly |
| 23:12.26 | scanlime | jeffm2501: ' |
| 23:12.27 | scanlime | er |
| 23:12.30 | scanlime | I'd need something bigger :) |
| 23:12.37 | jeffm2501 | ahh |
| 23:12.45 | ChipX86 | going to be able to close bug #28533 today :)) |
| 23:12.48 | jeffm2501 | they have one that is that wide too |
| 23:12.54 | ChipX86 | I love closing small bug numbers |
| 23:12.54 | jeffm2501 | it fits 4 sub cubes in it |
| 23:13.02 | scanlime | ChipX86: nice |
| 23:13.02 | jeffm2501 | it's like this modular thingy |
| 23:13.15 | jeffm2501 | but you'll want someing beefyer |
| 23:13.16 | scanlime | jeffm2501: I could use something similar to that in my closet though |
| 23:13.26 | scanlime | I'm tempted to just get some 2x4s to hold stuff up in my closet though |
| 23:15.15 | numist | wow, Im going to spend the night at scanlime's thursday... he's got a giant tv and cool gadgets |
| 23:15.29 | ChipX86 | :) |
| 23:15.31 | scanlime | and hardly anything actually works right :P |
| 23:15.41 | jeffm2501 | what feeds this masive TV? |
| 23:15.47 | ChipX86 | pigs |
| 23:15.51 | numist | scanlime: thats half the fun :) |
| 23:16.19 | scanlime | yeah.. I suspect I'll be spending a lot of time this weekend un-disorganizing my apartment and configuring stuff to hook up to the TV |
| 23:16.34 | scanlime | and finishing off the small pile of stuff I haven't really unpacked |
| 23:18.07 | numist | yay moving |
| 23:18.28 | numist | yeah... I need to seriously figure out how/where to unload all these sparcs Ive aqcuired |
| 23:18.41 | numist | not even sure which ones work |
| 23:19.04 | scanlime | ebay |
| 23:19.16 | scanlime | "L@@K HIGH POWER SUN WORKSTATIONS NR!!!!" |
| 23:19.39 | numist | high powered... right |
| 23:19.41 | ChipX86 | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:19.43 | ChipX86 | man, look at that |
| 23:19.55 | numist | these are sparcstation 1+ - sparcserver 20's |
| 23:19.57 | ChipX86 | (sorry, you have no idea how long I've had this bug and how scared everybody has been about it) |
| 23:20.01 | numist | not exactly the pinnacle of performance |
| 23:20.14 | numist | ChipX86++ |
| 23:20.47 | pagefault | haha |
| 23:20.49 | pagefault | free linspire |
| 23:21.59 | pagefault | haha |
| 23:22.02 | pagefault | they are talking about anime on daily planet |
| 23:22.25 | scanlime | ChipX86: ah, I just read the bug. nice. |
| 23:22.36 | pagefault | daily planet went to japan, it's pretty cool |
| 23:22.39 | pagefault | lots of gadgets |
| 23:22.57 | scanlime | wow |
| 23:23.18 | scanlime | I made a very scary death contraption out of an office clip thingy and the cap for my USB flash disk :P |
| 23:24.32 | darth_mall | hehe |
| 23:24.56 | CIA-5 | spacegrant: 03dkuester * r1674 10mck/ (4 files in 3 dirs): hee-haw: the next generation |
| 23:26.54 | scanlime | don't think this is going to get sent out today... |
| 23:29.59 | pagefault | good stuff |
| 23:30.55 | scanlime | ok.. time to go home |
| 23:31.18 | scanlime | or rather, go shopping on the way home :) |
| 23:31.42 | pagefault | try to conserve all gas vapors in your tank |
| 23:34.47 | ToyKeeper | I liked the free opera thing a few days ago... |
| 23:34.57 | ToyKeeper | ... don't care about free linspire though. |
| 23:35.43 | ToyKeeper | The opera thing came like half a hour after firefox died and forgot all my sessionsaver tabs. |
| 23:47.28 | numist | this month is gonna be tight... :x |
