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| 00:19.59 | pagefault | greetings |
| 00:20.06 | gonkulator | howdy pagefault, how goes? |
| 00:20.15 | pagefault | pretty good, you? |
| 00:20.41 | pagefault | brb |
| 00:22.36 | purple_cow | darth_mall: hi |
| 00:23.35 | darth_mall | yay |
| 00:24.02 | darth_mall | purple_cow: so is it a problem if the DMZ host I specify on the modem is 192.168.1.1 and the modem is 192.168.0.1? |
| 00:24.24 | purple_cow | depends on the subnet masks |
| 00:24.28 | darth_mall | 255.255.255.0 |
| 00:24.30 | darth_mall | for both |
| 00:24.35 | purple_cow | yeah, that won't work |
| 00:24.39 | darth_mall | ok, that explains it |
| 00:24.42 | purple_cow | since they're on separate subnets |
| 00:31.32 | gonkulator | darth_mall / purple_cow: do you guys have any Airport Cards (non-extreme) |
| 00:34.31 | ChipX86 | 17:31:40 <Win_XP> hey anyone how to let bzedit run in wine mine won't |
| 00:34.31 | ChipX86 | 17:32:14 <blast007> iirc, you need some DLL files |
| 00:34.31 | ChipX86 | 17:32:49 <Win_XP> blast007: sorry Im new to the linux thing what does that mean |
| 00:34.46 | ChipX86 | the name is what makes it gold. |
| 00:36.16 | gonkulator | scanlime: hows about you, do you have an old airport card? |
| 00:36.30 | numist | kergoth :o how much are you paying for that thing? |
| 00:36.40 | kergoth | 650 a month |
| 00:36.46 | kergoth | damn late charges |
| 00:37.01 | numist | I meant total |
| 00:37.08 | numist | its a piece of metal that moves, man |
| 00:37.26 | kergoth | oh, total. it was $35k when i bought it |
| 00:37.27 | purple_cow | gonkulator: no |
| 00:38.23 | numist | $35k :o |
| 00:38.41 | numist | thats a mind boggling amount of money |
| 00:38.45 | kergoth | pretty good deal, really. its 90% benz SLK under the hood |
| 00:38.54 | gonkulator | damn... those old airport cards are expensive |
| 00:38.59 | kergoth | considering the slk is like $10k higher than this or more, .. |
| 00:39.01 | gonkulator | and I remember leaving a couple at the apartments |
| 00:39.02 | kergoth | that car was the first time in my life that i was able to find something substantial like a vehicle, that i wanted, and not have to compromise. i found what i wanted, and i bought it. kind of a symbol of that. |
| 00:39.05 | kergoth | heh |
| 00:39.07 | gonkulator | cause I didn't need them anym0ore |
| 00:39.28 | numist | hmm |
| 00:39.34 | numist | you could always do what I did |
| 00:39.43 | numist | I waited 9 years for the car that I wanted more than any other |
| 00:39.52 | numist | Im getting it tomorrow or thurs, finally |
| 00:39.56 | kergoth | numist: i could always buy one again in the future when i'm in better shape |
| 00:39.59 | numist | then again, its a modest dream :) |
| 00:40.00 | kergoth | just ditch this for now |
| 00:40.07 | numist | indeed |
| 00:40.13 | kergoth | downside is the downpayment ;) |
| 00:40.23 | kergoth | and .. well.. i dunno how much its worth, but i could end up paying money to get rid of it. |
| 00:40.27 | kergoth | i hate that |
| 00:40.37 | numist | yeah... owing more than its worth is really bad |
| 00:41.06 | ChipX86 | damn.. |
| 00:41.11 | ChipX86 | New Orleans just isn't really there anymore |
| 00:41.17 | kergoth | :( |
| 00:41.23 | ChipX86 | that's.. hard to swallow |
| 00:42.02 | numist | yeah |
| 00:42.06 | numist | martial law now |
| 00:42.09 | ChipX86 | 80% is underwater |
| 00:42.17 | purple_cow | hmm |
| 00:42.37 | ChipX86 | the levees all collapsed |
| 00:42.44 | ChipX86 | or most did |
| 00:43.23 | numist | and the pumps that keep the city dry are not working |
| 00:43.24 | numist | no pwer |
| 00:43.29 | ChipX86 | yeah.. |
| 00:44.43 | ChipX86 | U.S. oil prices on Tuesday jumped $3.65 a barrel to peak at $70.85 as oil firms assessed damage. |
| 00:45.18 | kergoth | gah! |
| 00:45.19 | kergoth | damnit |
| 00:45.34 | kergoth | it was costing me like $37 to fill up just last week |
| 00:45.41 | gonkulator | http://www.friendlyhippo.com/bath.gif |
| 00:46.11 | gonkulator | and had its body chopped off |
| 00:48.18 | purple_cow | or there's a wormhole in the tub |
| 00:48.35 | purple_cow | and the hippo's ass is on the other side of the universe |
| 00:49.25 | gonkulator | poor hippo... that must cause for some cosmic irregularity |
| 00:49.48 | kergoth | http://scala.epfl.ch/examples/files/addressbook.html .. that, is weird. |
| 00:50.09 | kergoth | that programming language lets you use XML to construct objects, inline with the rest of the code |
| 00:50.52 | purple_cow | crazy |
| 00:50.54 | nullpuppy | thats... just... no.. |
| 00:51.16 | purple_cow | nullpuppy: what's wrong with it? |
| 00:51.22 | purple_cow | most functional languages let you do things like that |
| 00:51.43 | kergoth | one of the lua devs was talking about how he wants to go about implementing it for lua |
| 00:51.44 | kergoth | hehe |
| 00:51.51 | nullpuppy | I just find it disturbing ;) |
| 00:52.15 | kergoth | i guess it makes a certain amount of sense, but yeah, some part of me is running away screaming for no good reason about now |
| 00:52.19 | purple_cow | no more crappy DOM stuff |
| 00:52.21 | kergoth | indeed, thats one of hte main advantages |
| 00:54.07 | darth_mall | oh my god I hate this modem |
| 00:55.25 | ChipX86 | I have no idea what to do with my root access on my terastation |
| 00:56.09 | numist | seti@home ;) |
| 00:56.12 | nullpuppy | format it! |
| 00:56.17 | ChipX86 | no to both :P |
| 00:56.19 | numist | :( |
| 00:56.20 | nullpuppy | :) |
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| 00:59.47 | kergoth | hmm, i should install seti@home on my xpc |
| 01:00.17 | ChipX86 | I guess I'm just getting to the point where I'm tired of having computers to do things with |
| 01:00.40 | ChipX86 | I'd much prefer little devices that each did their own thing and maybe communicated with one main computer |
| 01:01.07 | numist | :o |
| 01:01.18 | numist | get a pda |
| 01:01.24 | ChipX86 | PDAs are only good for some things |
| 01:01.42 | purple_cow | you could just use your terastation as a NAS box :P |
| 01:01.47 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 01:02.06 | ChipX86 | http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/1/1d/Katrina_Flood_Overview.jpg |
| 01:03.49 | ChipX86 | ugh. Lawyers. |
| 01:03.55 | ToyKeeper | Yup. That's the Katrina I know. |
| 01:06.19 | ToyKeeper | She was happy in Florida, but after she got back she became a natural disaster. |
| 01:06.23 | purple_cow | guh. freenode's new cloak thing is so inconsistent it hurts |
| 01:06.41 | purple_cow | how come i=levin@freenode/staff/pdpc.levin gets a dot? |
| 01:07.38 | purple_cow | whoa |
| 01:07.39 | purple_cow | http://www.mininova.org/tor/75162 |
| 01:10.29 | kergoth | woah |
| 01:10.31 | kergoth | thatd be cool though |
| 01:11.32 | purple_cow | kinda |
| 01:11.55 | darth_mall | anyone else having trouble connecting to AIM? |
| 01:12.04 | kergoth | why the hell does only _one_ person on ubermovie have these firefly episoes |
| 01:12.06 | kergoth | episodes |
| 01:12.16 | kergoth | damnit, these people need to be shown the niftiness of firefly |
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| 01:12.31 | kergoth | hah, the guy who has the firefly episodes is the guy that was grabbing all the invader zim episodes i was ripped |
| 01:12.35 | kergoth | s/ed$/ing/ |
| 01:12.39 | kergoth | good taste :) |
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| 01:28.42 | Sophie[Work | hey you silly bitches. |
| 01:29.35 | kergoth | yay, silly |
| 01:30.14 | Sophie197 | me hugs kergoth |
| 01:30.18 | Sophie197 | oops. |
| 01:30.47 | Sophie197 | :) |
| 01:30.56 | kergoth | me hugs Sophie197 back |
| 01:30.57 | kergoth | :P |
| 01:41.19 | ChipX86 | gah |
| 01:41.34 | ChipX86 | when e-mailing a lawyer, it's important not to leave out the word "not" in certain places |
| 01:41.41 | kergoth | hehe |
| 01:42.16 | numist | ? |
| 01:42.52 | purple_cow | ? |
| 01:43.19 | itodd | chip, legal problems? |
| 01:51.58 | ChipX86 | oh, nothing really |
| 01:52.04 | ChipX86 | no legal problems |
| 01:52.49 | ChipX86 | I'll tell you in a couple months or so |
| 01:53.02 | numist | :o |
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| 01:53.52 | ToyKeeper | Ooh, free opera registrations until midnight: |
| 01:53.52 | ToyKeeper | http://my.opera.com/community/party/reg.dml |
| 01:55.18 | ChipX86 | I'm going to play WoW. |
| 01:55.35 | ChipX86 | got back up to 171g. I want more. |
| 01:55.44 | kergoth | greedy bastard! ;) |
| 01:55.45 | ChipX86 | (that was after 15g in training yesterday) |
| 01:56.05 | kergoth | you arent in #nakedandfamous! not that it ever gets used for anything but CIA notifications of my addon set |
| 01:56.07 | ChipX86 | kergoth: my deposit box has 41g |
| 01:56.08 | kergoth | but still! |
| 01:58.45 | purple_cow | hmm |
| 01:58.55 | purple_cow | the ISS is going to travel directly overhead tonight at magnitude -0.9 |
| 01:59.04 | ChipX86 | purple_cow: I hope it doesn't fall :( |
| 02:16.05 | ToyKeeper | purple_cow: where/when? |
| 02:16.29 | ToyKeeper | I saw it pass over a couple weeks ago, during the meteor shower... 4:20am exactly. |
| 02:16.59 | purple_cow | for the middle CO, it should be starting about 8:53 |
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| 02:17.17 | ToyKeeper | Starting? Heh. It only takes a minute. :) |
| 02:17.29 | pagefault | restart your PC |
| 02:17.30 | purple_cow | sez 5 on the thing i was sent |
| 02:17.31 | pagefault | it's fun |
| 02:17.56 | ToyKeeper | I guess I don't have time to find some binoculars, then. D'oh. |
| 02:18.23 | purple_cow | where are you again? |
| 02:18.45 | ToyKeeper | Northern CO. |
| 02:18.56 | purple_cow | that's maybe enough time to find some |
| 02:19.04 | ToyKeeper | I gave away my cheap binoculars, and now I'm eating. |
| 02:19.14 | ToyKeeper | Er, I think my roommate just got home too... need to ask her WTF was up yesterday. |
| 02:20.59 | purple_cow | you're not eating hard enough! |
| 02:24.19 | ToyKeeper | I think there's a telescope somewhere, but that'd just be silly. |
| 02:24.25 | ToyKeeper | It moves *way* too fast for a telescope. |
| 02:24.41 | numist | aye |
| 02:25.09 | darth_mall | yay unprotected wireless networks |
| 02:25.33 | numist | yay |
| 02:45.40 | ToyKeeper | Hmm. Not the reaction I expected. |
| 02:46.04 | ToyKeeper | She got righteous-argumentative about it, instead of feeling bad about lashing out. |
| 02:46.31 | ToyKeeper | The only two ways to really piss off W are to do something to his computer, or do something to his cat... |
| 02:46.45 | ToyKeeper | ... and I think she's known him long enough to know that. |
| 02:47.23 | ToyKeeper | So, tossing his notebook aside (basically) was a fricking rude thing to do, and I think she knew it, even if she's rationalizing it now. |
| 02:47.26 | ToyKeeper | Bleh. |
| 02:48.02 | purple_cow | i like doing things to cats |
| 02:48.16 | purple_cow | to this day, kendra's cat will run downstairs when he sees a laser pointer :) |
| 02:48.46 | pagefault | unprotected sex with a wireless net gets you worms |
| 02:49.00 | pagefault | thats how I got zotob |
| 02:49.13 | purple_cow | latching onto stupid sayings gets you punched in the teeth |
| 02:50.31 | pagefault | back to getting mp3s |
| 02:51.55 | scanlime | so tired... |
| 02:51.59 | darth_mall | hehe |
| 02:52.00 | scanlime | I'm still behind on sleep from the weekend |
| 02:52.02 | darth_mall | punched |
| 02:52.48 | darth_mall | scanlime: =\ |
| 02:57.49 | scanlime | hmm |
| 02:57.52 | scanlime | I get paid again tomorrow |
| 02:57.54 | darth_mall | sweet |
| 02:57.59 | numist | yay getting paid more than once |
| 02:58.02 | scanlime | yeah |
| 02:59.11 | scanlime | http://www.circuitcity.com/ccd/productDetailReview.do?oid=93192&com.broadvision.session.new=Yes&com.broadvision.session.new=Yes&BV_UseBVCookie=No |
| 02:59.20 | scanlime | that really is a pretty good price, after looking around a lot |
| 02:59.24 | scanlime | and IIRC it was a bit cheaper in-store... |
| 02:59.34 | ToyKeeper | Well, mission accomplished. |
| 02:59.37 | darth_mall | hah |
| 03:00.02 | ToyKeeper | It reminds me of the first time I did a "*0xA0000 = 1;"... |
| 03:00.12 | ToyKeeper | "A dot! A fucking dot! Yeah!" |
| 03:00.13 | purple_cow | wow that was bright :) |
| 03:00.15 | numist | 0xDEADBEEF |
| 03:00.18 | numist | :) |
| 03:00.19 | scanlime | ToyKeeper: haha |
| 03:00.36 | scanlime | ToyKeeper: you had far pointers back then? luxury! |
| 03:00.46 | darth_mall | purple_cow: what was bright? |
| 03:00.50 | ToyKeeper | Well... Borland Turbo C for DOS. |
| 03:00.53 | purple_cow | the ISS just passed overhead |
| 03:00.57 | ToyKeeper | darth_mall: You just missed the space station. |
| 03:01.05 | ToyKeeper | I saw *two* satellites pass by. |
| 03:01.12 | ToyKeeper | :) |
| 03:01.23 | darth_mall | oh |
| 03:01.35 | ToyKeeper | The first was about 2-3 minutes before, and dim. |
| 03:02.26 | ToyKeeper | I thought.. "gee, it sure was brighter a couple weeks ago".. would have gone inside disappointed if my roommate hadn't been leaving right then. |
| 03:05.59 | ToyKeeper | You know, there aren't many places I could mention "*0xA0000" and expect anyone to have a clue what it means. |
| 03:06.22 | numist | thats why I like it here |
| 03:07.26 | pagefault | thats interesting |
| 03:07.34 | pagefault | you can use the carpool lanes if you own a prius in california |
| 03:07.46 | numist | yep |
| 03:07.50 | numist | any hybrid, actually |
| 03:08.04 | ToyKeeper | Weird. |
| 03:08.48 | ToyKeeper | My roommate has a priapus, er, I mean, prius. |
| 03:09.14 | ToyKeeper | I think he needs to paint it like a shuttlecraft, and add fins and stuff. |
| 03:09.28 | numist | better mileage and execution on the insight :) |
| 03:10.23 | ToyKeeper | I've only ever been in a prius... I like the quietness, quick starting, spiffy electronics, and stuff... but I hear everything else is better. :) |
| 03:10.54 | numist | a bud of mine owns an insight.. 90 mpg |
| 03:11.13 | numist | sustained 90mpg... I really want to gut one and put its guts in my sol :) |
| 03:11.59 | ToyKeeper | I'll only be driving hand-me-downs for the forseeable future, though. |
| 03:12.00 | nullpuppy | hehe |
| 03:13.08 | numist | ah well |
| 03:13.16 | ToyKeeper | No point buying a car when A) I can't afford one, B) I want to go to other countries for a few years, and C) I'm just not that leet. :) |
| 03:13.32 | numist | ToyKeeper: plus peak oil |
| 03:13.38 | numist | if you dont need it, dont get it, I say |
| 03:16.29 | nullpuppy | numist: well.. what we hope will be peak oil... |
| 03:16.58 | numist | nullpuppy: what else would it be? |
| 03:17.16 | nullpuppy | *shrugs* |
| 03:17.17 | ToyKeeper | ... non-peak? |
| 03:17.31 | nullpuppy | i'm just hoping it doesn't get higher.. |
| 03:17.31 | numist | well, we might be past the peak by now |
| 03:17.44 | numist | peak refers to production, not cost |
| 03:17.51 | numist | cost only goes up after peak oil happens |
| 03:18.08 | numist | luckily, theres plenty of work going into alt fuels these days.. |
| 03:18.16 | numist | Ill probably convert my car to biodiesel eventually |
| 03:18.17 | nullpuppy | yeah |
| 03:18.56 | purple_cow | why biodiesel? :P |
| 03:19.11 | ToyKeeper | I'm glad I don't use much gas... working at home is nice. |
| 03:19.14 | numist | good question.. its because my friend is in the process of making a plant for it thatll have a lot of output |
| 03:19.22 | numist | so Im guaranteed fuel :) |
| 03:19.33 | purple_cow | it's not really "clean burning" |
| 03:19.39 | numist | that plus parts from an insight gives me a diesel hybrid that gets 100+ mpg |
| 03:19.48 | numist | its cleaner than gas/petrodiesel |
| 03:19.50 | purple_cow | biodiesel contributes about 10x as much to acid rain as normal diesel |
| 03:20.32 | purple_cow | so it's a question of whether you think co2 or acid rain is worse |
| 03:21.20 | numist | depends on the biodiesel iirc |
| 03:21.27 | numist | its lower on particulates |
| 03:21.59 | ToyKeeper | We need hemp cars. |
| 03:22.14 | ToyKeeper | Ford actually built a car entirely from hemp, and it was powered by hemp. |
| 03:22.40 | numist | ... |
| 03:22.43 | numist | thats not right... |
| 03:22.59 | ToyKeeper | That was a long, long time ago... but I think it's pretty cool. |
| 03:23.08 | purple_cow | and you know what it gave out as exhaust? hemp! |
| 03:24.04 | ToyKeeper | Just ask google about "ford hemp"... I guess that was in 1941. |
| 03:25.43 | ToyKeeper | I guess it took him 12 years to make the first one, but would be able to mass-produce them if the gov't wasn't so stupid about hemp. |
| 03:28.44 | ToyKeeper | If anyone tried to do that today, they'd be labelled as a terrorist. |
| 03:29.20 | ToyKeeper | Anyone who threatens the power-mongering oil overlords is a "terrorist". |
| 03:29.23 | ToyKeeper | ... basically. |
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| 03:34.49 | numist | ToyKeeper: careful, the oil overlords are doing a lot of the work for alternate fuels... theyre very interested in staying in business when the oil runs out |
| 03:35.16 | ToyKeeper | I suspect though, that the reason the prius is so popular is that it's the worst hybrid available. :) |
| 03:35.49 | ToyKeeper | But yeah, it seems even the overlords are starting to see the writing on the wall. |
| 03:35.57 | numist | americans usually choose the wrong option :P |
| 03:36.03 | numist | but the prius is a 4-door 5-person |
| 03:36.05 | ToyKeeper | Yeah, like the iPod. |
| 03:36.08 | numist | the insight is a 3 door 2 person |
| 03:36.59 | ToyKeeper | I'm amazed so many people have (and like) iPods. |
| 03:37.11 | ToyKeeper | It does less and costs more than everything else on the market. |
| 03:37.17 | numist | yep |
| 03:37.23 | numist | but it does what they want, which isnt much |
| 03:37.26 | numist | so theyre happy |
| 03:37.31 | numist | plus, it works well with the sofware |
| 03:37.33 | numist | very apple |
| 03:37.36 | ToyKeeper | It doesn't even actually play mp3s, last I looked. |
| 03:37.41 | numist | it does |
| 03:37.47 | ToyKeeper | ... if they're transcoded. |
| 03:37.56 | numist | no, thats the sony minidisc |
| 03:38.02 | numist | ipod plays aac and mp3 |
| 03:38.15 | ToyKeeper | Last iPod I saw could only play aac. Its sync software would convert mp3 on the fly. |
| 03:38.23 | ToyKeeper | That was over a year ago, though. |
| 03:38.24 | darth_mall | only? |
| 03:38.26 | numist | hrm.. that shouldnt be right... |
| 03:38.43 | numist | my friends ipod seems to transfer mp3 at usb limits, not cpu limits |
| 03:39.24 | ToyKeeper | At the time, it also couldn't both play and transfer files. If something was playable, it couldn't be copied. |
| 03:39.36 | laodamas | ToyKeeper: the iPod has always played aac, mp3, and wav natively |
| 03:39.54 | numist | I was just saying that as to illustrate my thought that it cant be transcoding on the fly to the ipod |
| 03:40.02 | ToyKeeper | laodamas: 'k. Must have been user error or something, then. I didn't get to actually try it. |
| 03:40.05 | laodamas | The only time it transcoded mp3s is when the bitrate was outside of spec |
| 03:40.40 | ToyKeeper | A friend got an iPod as a bday gift, and it promptly rejected every mp3 we tossed at it. |
| 03:40.59 | ToyKeeper | After like 6 hours, using the bundled software, they still couldn't get it to play anything at all, |
| 03:41.11 | numist | laodamas: ah hah, thanks for that |
| 03:41.14 | laodamas | ToyKeeper: thats weird, I have never run into an mp3 it couldn;t play |
| 03:41.22 | laodamas | s/an/a/ |
| 03:42.10 | ToyKeeper | I do like its touchpad though. |
| 03:47.25 | numist | yes, the iPod has some excellent ui |
| 03:47.31 | numist | its just severely limited by its software |
| 03:48.04 | laodamas | The iPod needs a real OS, not just the PortalPlayer interrupt handler |
| 03:48.14 | numist | ipodlinux :) |
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| 03:51.25 | irisieren | darth_mall: poke |
| 03:55.47 | ToyKeeper | Priapus |
| 03:55.47 | ToyKeeper | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:56.47 | ToyKeeper | They may as well name their next model the "Shlong" or "Phallus". |
| 03:57.35 | ToyKeeper | ... or make a hybrid car for women, named after a goddess of sex. |
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| 05:03.05 | darth_mall | purple_cow: are you doing lines of salt again? |
| 05:03.23 | purple_cow | yes, dammit! |
| 05:03.52 | darth_mall | yay |
| 05:05.52 | laodamas | purple_cow: are you at your place? |
| 05:06.35 | purple_cow | yep |
| 05:06.45 | darth_mall | wherever purple_cow is, is his place. he is that awesome |
| 05:07.18 | pagefault | damn |
| 05:07.23 | pagefault | my laptop is faster my desktop |
| 05:07.31 | laodamas | purple_cow: If lurgy or slimspace aren't home, do you mind if I occupy 1.11m^2 of your floor tonight? |
| 05:07.59 | purple_cow | nope |
| 05:08.52 | laodamas | purple_cow: nifty, and thanks |
| 05:11.21 | purple_cow | hehe, yay drunken boxing |
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| 05:14.12 | darth_mall | purple_cow: watching Drunken Master? |
| 05:14.38 | purple_cow | no, it's a different one |
| 05:14.47 | purple_cow | fearless hyena |
| 05:14.57 | darth_mall | hmm |
| 05:15.00 | darth_mall | never heard of it |
| 05:15.56 | purple_cow | very similar to drunken master |
| 05:16.12 | purple_cow | except there's less drinking involved. just little elements of drunken boxing in this fight |
| 05:18.47 | purple_cow | ok, time to get clean |
| 05:18.53 | darth_mall | no! |
| 05:18.58 | zak | yea clean1 |
| 05:21.10 | pagefault | filetype:torrent <appname> |
| 05:21.11 | pagefault | gotta love it |
| 05:21.14 | scanlime | oh, hi zak |
| 05:22.32 | zak | meep |
| 05:23.17 | pagefault | hah |
| 05:23.22 | pagefault | call for help is on the US again |
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| 05:27.05 | pagefault | oh wow |
| 05:27.13 | pagefault | I can't believe this friend of mine is so immature |
| 05:27.18 | darth_mall | I can! |
| 05:27.19 | pagefault | I told him about OS X on x86 |
| 05:27.19 | numist | do tell |
| 05:27.25 | numist | *cough* |
| 05:27.25 | pagefault | and the first thing he said was |
| 05:27.26 | pagefault | OSEX |
| 05:27.31 | numist | wow thats silly |
| 05:27.39 | pagefault | yeah |
| 05:27.42 | numist | and that doesnt even exist.. closest thing Ive heard of is freedsb |
| 05:27.44 | pagefault | he's like a 20 year old |
| 05:27.49 | pagefault | with a childs mind |
| 05:28.10 | numist | I have someone like that in one of my channels... it appalls me the things that can come out of his mouth without notice |
| 05:28.14 | pagefault | haha |
| 05:28.27 | pagefault | I feel sort of bad for him though |
| 05:28.29 | numist | seriously needs to get some class |
| 05:28.33 | pagefault | he said his IQ is only 91 |
| 05:28.33 | numist | yeah, same here |
| 05:28.39 | numist | its pathetic, really |
| 05:28.42 | numist | ack... bad timing that |
| 05:28.51 | pagefault | haha |
| 05:28.52 | numist | 91, its socially acceptable |
| 05:29.00 | pagefault | well it's just some things he does are just so silly |
| 05:29.02 | pagefault | but for him it's normal |
| 05:29.02 | numist | < 80 is where you get worried |
| 05:29.27 | pagefault | he's going through the script kiddie phase now |
| 05:29.33 | pagefault | using premade "hacking tools" |
| 05:29.40 | pagefault | I did that like when I was 13 |
| 05:29.42 | pagefault | heh |
| 05:30.03 | numist | .... |
| 05:30.08 | numist | yeah, same here |
| 05:30.13 | numist | I hate to admit to it though |
| 05:30.16 | pagefault | yeah |
| 05:30.19 | pagefault | but at that age it was fun |
| 05:30.23 | numist | oh hell yes |
| 05:30.30 | numist | getting expelled from HS was the best thing that ever happened ot me |
| 05:30.34 | pagefault | hahaha |
| 05:30.45 | pagefault | I got in shit in HS because I used a rootkit for netware |
| 05:30.49 | pagefault | and sent a global message |
| 05:30.56 | numist | the school was actually shite.. I wound up going to far better places in the 5 high schools I went to |
| 05:30.59 | numist | netware?! |
| 05:31.03 | numist | ugh, I hate netware |
| 05:31.04 | pagefault | yeah |
| 05:31.14 | numist | someone must have donated a lot to your school |
| 05:31.18 | numist | and their name was novell |
| 05:31.19 | pagefault | they made me drop the computer class |
| 05:31.22 | numist | hehe |
| 05:31.26 | numist | honorary A? |
| 05:31.30 | pagefault | haha no |
| 05:31.39 | pagefault | I forget how that worked out |
| 05:31.49 | numist | but you didnt get pwned, so thats good |
| 05:32.03 | pagefault | i wonder what they were thinking in that meeting to name the apple's o/s |
| 05:32.03 | pagefault | pagefault says: |
| 05:32.03 | pagefault | because it's OS 10? |
| 05:32.04 | pagefault | see |
| 05:32.07 | pagefault | thats what he just said |
| 05:32.20 | numist | ... |
| 05:32.33 | numist | yeah.. seriously.. if they named it 10, everyone would think it was the same kernel as 9 |
| 05:32.39 | numist | not like your friend would really understand that |
| 05:32.46 | numist | obviously not being a mac user |
| 05:32.57 | pagefault | he doesn't understand why they called it "OS" |
| 05:33.18 | numist | .... |
| 05:33.22 | numist | /ban |
| 05:33.59 | pagefault | yeah well I see him like everyday at classes |
| 05:34.07 | pagefault | so it's hard to not talk to him |
| 05:34.48 | scanlime | ooh |
| 05:34.49 | numist | ah, Ive had 'friends' like that |
| 05:34.53 | scanlime | this apartment isn't X-10 hostile |
| 05:35.01 | scanlime | I'm gonna have to pick up some wallswitch modules at fry's |
| 05:35.07 | pagefault | the guy is also 21 now |
| 05:35.10 | pagefault | and has never even kissed a girl |
| 05:35.14 | numist | :o |
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| 05:36.02 | numist | scanlime: wallswitch modules? |
| 05:36.20 | pagefault | rain rain go away |
| 05:36.33 | scanlime | numist: x-10 lamp/appliance modules you replace normal light switches with |
| 05:36.37 | pagefault | my room is a complete mess |
| 05:36.41 | pagefault | I am going to clean it tomorrow |
| 05:36.59 | pagefault | I have a bad habit of just leaving stuff on the floor |
| 05:38.07 | pagefault | it's funny if you plug a USB keyboard into my cable box |
| 05:38.12 | pagefault | you can change the channels with the keys |
| 05:38.21 | numist | wow, my HOSTS file is set up to get rid of ads and evil things, and the entire x10 domain is in there |
| 05:38.25 | numist | probably for a good reason |
| 05:38.36 | pagefault | I just use adblock : |
| 05:38.38 | pagefault | :) |
| 05:39.10 | numist | pagefault: I use it in conjunction with adblock.. it takes care of most everything so my manual use of adblock is minimal |
| 05:39.16 | scanlime | heh |
| 05:39.18 | purple_cow | hmm, drunken master... |
| 05:39.19 | purple_cow | good idea! |
| 05:39.24 | scanlime | x10 has evil advertising |
| 05:39.30 | numist | yes, they do |
| 05:39.33 | pagefault | sometime I am going to set up squid to do it for me |
| 05:39.35 | scanlime | but their products, while cheap and crappy, are often effective |
| 05:39.35 | ChipX86 | but good deals |
| 05:39.37 | pagefault | and just route everything through it |
| 05:40.15 | zak | hehehe |
| 05:40.22 | ToyKeeper | adblock ++ |
| 05:40.22 | zak | bonsai kitten just makes me happy |
| 05:40.37 | numist | yay bonsai kitten |
| 05:40.53 | lurgy | noonoonoo |
| 05:40.54 | numist | oh, I probably asked this already, but scanlime, ChipX86.. you want a cat for at least a year? |
| 05:41.08 | ChipX86 | numist: can't |
| 05:41.13 | numist | d'oh |
| 05:41.13 | scanlime | same :( |
| 05:41.17 | scanlime | lurgy: why? |
| 05:41.30 | numist | blah... I might have to give him to a shelter that isnt no-kill :( |
| 05:41.32 | scanlime | :) |
| 05:41.34 | lurgy | and there was peer pressure and stuff :P |
| 05:41.38 | scanlime | numist: =( |
| 05:41.40 | darth_mall | haha |
| 05:41.42 | darth_mall | peer pressure |
| 05:41.43 | purple_cow | numist: come out here |
| 05:41.48 | pagefault | haha, childhood obesity |
| 05:42.04 | scanlime | ? |
| 05:42.10 | pagefault | family guy |
| 05:42.23 | purple_cow | "at the risk of sounding like an after-school special, i think we all learned who the real animal was today" "you mean peer pressure?" |
| 05:42.31 | pagefault | haha |
| 05:42.36 | lurgy | teehee |
| 05:42.37 | scanlime | :) |
| 05:42.51 | scanlime | purple_cow: there are some damn high quality CRT HDTVs for around $1000 |
| 05:42.58 | scanlime | purple_cow: but they must weigh about 5 tons :( |
| 05:43.18 | purple_cow | not bad |
| 05:43.39 | pagefault | this may sound like a silly question |
| 05:43.44 | pagefault | but why does vmware create two virtual NICs |
| 05:43.49 | scanlime | two? |
| 05:43.54 | pagefault | yeah |
| 05:44.08 | scanlime | are you talking about the actual virtual NIC devices, or vmnet? |
| 05:44.23 | pagefault | vmnet |
| 05:44.35 | scanlime | there should be more than two by default... |
| 05:44.48 | scanlime | but it depends on how you have the network set up |
| 05:44.54 | pagefault | I have vmnet1 and 8 |
| 05:44.56 | scanlime | vmnet devices are just virtual network segments |
| 05:44.58 | scanlime | yeah |
| 05:45.10 | scanlime | you plug any number of VMs into a vmnet, and they appear to be on a virtual switch |
| 05:45.16 | scanlime | then you can bridge/route the vmnets to real networks |
| 05:45.29 | pagefault | ahh I see |
| 05:45.33 | scanlime | but all the virtual networking infrastructure is configurable |
| 05:45.46 | scanlime | vmware-config sets that up at install time, plus there's some GUI-fu to mess with it later |
| 05:47.36 | pagefault | ahh cool |
| 05:47.40 | pagefault | I just wanted to make sure it was normal |
| 05:49.32 | scanlime | sigh. I like the idea of DLP, but the crummy viewing angle really puts me off |
| 05:49.55 | pagefault | freakin' sweet |
| 05:51.01 | purple_cow | huh. this doesn't look like the drunken master i know... |
| 05:53.45 | zak | naptime! |
| 05:53.52 | nullpuppy | yay |
| 05:54.16 | numist | why am I even awake... |
| 05:54.19 | purple_cow | ahh, this is the sequel. i wonder where my copy of the original went |
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| 05:57.34 | purple_cow | weird sequel |
| 05:58.08 | purple_cow | a completely different movie so far :P |
| 06:00.29 | lurgy | mm |
| 06:00.29 | lurgy | squid |
| 06:04.45 | lurgy | hmm |
| 06:18.44 | darth_mall | man the X-Files was such a great show |
| 06:21.27 | purple_cow | wow |
| 06:21.40 | purple_cow | this "sequel" may have absolutely no relation to the original, but it's good |
| 06:22.26 | purple_cow | i really need to learn drunken boxing |
| 06:22.28 | purple_cow | it's so awesome |
| 06:23.46 | scanlime | the dell poweredge 1800 has very funky drives :P |
| 06:31.42 | purple_cow | argh. lots of corruption in this file :( |
| 06:43.35 | scanlime | woo |
| 06:43.40 | scanlime | forgot how handy X-10 is when it works |
| 06:43.56 | darth_mall | rock |
| 06:43.57 | numist | :o |
| 06:44.19 | scanlime | I just had to reroute a bit so my bedside lamp wasn't on the UPS :) |
| 06:44.27 | darth_mall | rock |
| 06:44.33 | scanlime | lobster? |
| 06:44.41 | darth_mall | why not |
| 06:45.22 | scanlime | yep, UPS works |
| 06:45.23 | scanlime | neat |
| 06:52.04 | scanlime | wow |
| 06:52.08 | scanlime | my openslug built |
| 06:52.23 | scanlime | 3057 ipks |
| 06:52.24 | scanlime | :P |
| 06:52.33 | scanlime | most of which are individual codepages... |
| 06:52.50 | scanlime | heh |
| 07:19.16 | purple_cow | drunken boxing is so awesome :D |
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| 07:28.47 | ChipX86 | Prisoners in Orleans Parish riot and take hostages |
| 07:28.57 | ChipX86 | Efforts to fix the levees have ended, pumps are expected to fail soon (?), and nine more feet of water is expected in 12-15 hours. Residents told to evacuate the east bank of New Orleans |
| 07:29.01 | ChipX86 | ugh. |
| 07:29.25 | numist | yep |
| 07:29.31 | numist | looks like new orleans may as well just relocate |
| 07:29.33 | ChipX86 | this just gets worse and worse |
| 07:29.45 | numist | yeah |
| 07:29.50 | ChipX86 | shame.. I wanted to travel there someday |
| 07:29.56 | ChipX86 | so did Jamie |
| 07:31.10 | ChipX86 | http://forms.belointeractive.com/sharedcontent/datafiles/1125380695760_ORIGINAL_100_0861.jpg |
| 07:31.52 | numist | heres some math, chippy: http://egofood.blogspot.com/2005/08/disaster-math-orhow-long-will-pumping.html |
| 07:33.08 | pagefault | 10 minutes to extract OS X ugh |
| 07:33.16 | numist | hehe |
| 07:33.20 | numist | bzip is a hog that way |
| 07:33.23 | numist | gzip would have been smarter |
| 07:33.29 | numist | the vm is mostly empty space anyway |
| 07:34.02 | ChipX86 | ughhh |
| 07:34.07 | ChipX86 | man.. |
| 07:34.16 | pagefault | yeah crazy |
| 07:34.28 | pagefault | I hope this works |
| 07:34.28 | numist | ChipX86: thats some evil math, isnt it |
| 07:34.31 | ChipX86 | yes |
| 07:36.02 | pagefault | this image is huge too |
| 07:36.07 | pagefault | 1.5gb and growing |
| 07:36.20 | numist | its 6gb |
| 07:36.27 | numist | mostly empty space |
| 07:36.41 | ChipX86 | should have made it a sparse disk |
| 07:37.26 | ChipX86 | numist: imagine if the levee keeping back the mississippi river failed |
| 07:37.43 | ChipX86 | brb |
| 07:37.43 | pagefault | man |
| 07:37.46 | pagefault | someone was sloppy |
| 07:37.49 | pagefault | they left their logs in |
| 07:37.53 | pagefault | so you can see their username and everything |
| 07:38.00 | numist | ChipX86: my buddy and I both think that its at the point where they should just let it flood and rebuild elsewhere... theres nothing really salvageable anymore |
| 07:40.06 | pagefault | what a mess |
| 07:40.12 | pagefault | on the news |
| 07:40.17 | numist | yeah |
| 07:40.43 | pagefault | it's amazing what wind can do |
| 07:40.53 | numist | water too |
| 07:40.56 | ChipX86 | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:41.01 | numist | the wind was actually pretty weak when the hurricane hit |
| 07:41.19 | pagefault | i'm looking at a boat that got on the shore somehow |
| 07:41.26 | ChipX86 | numist: a good piece of history and culture.. gone :( |
| 07:41.30 | numist | since it went through an eyewell replacement cycle right before it made landfall |
| 07:41.34 | numist | ChipX86: yep |
| 07:41.47 | ChipX86 | I still haven't fully grasped it yet |
| 07:42.10 | pagefault | global warming |
| 07:42.14 | numist | ChipX86: I can easily grasp the city being gone... but the number of people displaced and ruined by this is boggling |
| 07:43.05 | pagefault | it sucks |
| 07:43.13 | pagefault | hmm |
| 07:45.40 | pagefault | darwin |
| 07:45.40 | pagefault | hah |
| 07:46.02 | ChipX86 | ? |
| 07:46.22 | pagefault | hehe |
| 07:46.26 | pagefault | it won't run on this PC anyway |
| 07:46.33 | pagefault | keeps telling me to reboot |
| 07:46.37 | pagefault | but I don't have SSE2 on this |
| 07:48.20 | pagefault | kernel panic |
| 07:48.28 | numist | oops |
| 07:49.55 | ChipX86 | who here uses smartctl? |
| 07:52.34 | pagefault | haha |
| 07:52.35 | pagefault | cool |
| 07:52.43 | pagefault | I can use the vmware image in qemu |
| 07:52.48 | numist | gnight guys |
| 07:52.53 | ChipX86 | g'night |
| 07:53.04 | pagefault | double panis |
| 07:53.06 | pagefault | err panic |
| 07:53.08 | pagefault | night |
| 07:53.12 | pagefault | that won't even run it |
| 07:54.40 | ChipX86 | ok, next question.. who here has a decent automated backup solution going? |
| 07:55.21 | pagefault | ooh apple logo |
| 08:01.40 | pagefault | now to port zsnes to mac os x |
| 08:01.54 | pagefault | and get my $20 |
| 08:05.34 | pagefault | http://www.weatheroffice.ec.gc.ca/radar/index_e.html?id=WKR |
| 08:05.36 | pagefault | hey |
| 08:05.38 | pagefault | thats a lot of rain |
| 08:06.20 | pagefault | http://www.weatheroffice.ec.gc.ca/radar/index_e.html?id=WKR |
| 08:06.25 | pagefault | http://www.weatheroffice.ec.gc.ca/radar/index_e.html?id=WKR |
| 08:06.26 | pagefault | bah mouse |
| 08:06.28 | pagefault | well |
| 08:06.30 | pagefault | I am goign to bed |
| 08:06.30 | pagefault | night |
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| 08:26.39 | ToyKeeper | ChipX86: rsnapshot works nicely for backups |
| 08:26.54 | ChipX86 | looking into flexbackup now. Looks like it'll do the job nicely |
| 08:29.23 | ToyKeeper | Sounds like it'd take a lot more space than what I had in mind. |
| 08:29.32 | ChipX86 | what do you have in mind? |
| 08:30.31 | ToyKeeper | Something which gives you, say, snapshots of the past month worth of data, but only takes 150% as much space as the actual data... and can be easily mounted for restoring. |
| 08:30.56 | ChipX86 | flexbackup can easily be set up to do monthly full backups and then weekly or daily or whatever incremental ones based on the monthly |
| 08:31.02 | ToyKeeper | I can do stuff like "cp /backup/last_week/foo/bar/baz ." to restore. |
| 08:31.13 | ToyKeeper | No patching or decompressing to deal with. |
| 08:31.19 | ChipX86 | I want it in tarballs |
| 08:31.25 | ToyKeeper | 'k. I don't. :) |
| 08:31.30 | ChipX86 | it's all going onto a terabyte RAID NAS anyway |
| 08:32.53 | ToyKeeper | Mine is set up, at the moment, to keep 12 copies of the data... and takes about 130% the space of the data (instead of 1200%). |
| 08:33.08 | ToyKeeper | It keeps 7 daily copies, 4 weekly, and 2 monthly. |
| 08:33.52 | ChipX86 | how does it take less space? |
| 08:33.57 | ToyKeeper | hard links |
| 08:34.05 | ChipX86 | across the network? |
| 08:34.40 | ToyKeeper | If only 10% of the files changed, it only needs to make new inodes for 10% of that day's files. |
| 08:35.03 | ChipX86 | are your backups on the same system? |
| 08:35.08 | ToyKeeper | No. |
| 08:36.16 | ToyKeeper | The docs for rsnapshot or dirvish explain it pretty well, or http://www.keithl.com/RSYNC1.pdf |
| 08:36.41 | ToyKeeper | The idea came from... http://www.mikerubel.org/computers/rsync_snapshots/ |
| 08:39.18 | ToyKeeper | It'll probably take slightly more room than an older-style incremental backup, but completely avoids the hassle of rebuilding files during restore with special tools. |
| 08:44.12 | ToyKeeper | ... no need to guess which archives contain which files, either.. each snapshot is a complete copy of the system's state on the date it was backed up. |
| 08:45.03 | ChipX86 | hmmm |
| 08:45.07 | ChipX86 | interesting |
| 08:45.14 | ChipX86 | can I see your config? |
| 08:45.46 | ToyKeeper | Mine is using an old version with slightly different semantics, but it should be good enough for an example... |
| 08:45.47 | ToyKeeper | just a sec |
| 08:47.32 | ToyKeeper | Er, rsnapshot can automate database dumps and stuff too. I haven't set that up yet, though. |
| 08:48.04 | ToyKeeper | http://toykeeper.net/tmp/rsnapshot.conf |
| 08:48.36 | ToyKeeper | Not a great example, really. My current backup server is little. |
| 08:51.10 | ToyKeeper | I'm not 100% happy with either dirvish or rsnapshot, though. Dirvish has a limited, forced directory structure (instead of free-form hierarchies), and rsnapshot insists that the root-level backup dirs represent time (instead of, say, hosts). |
| 08:52.27 | ToyKeeper | So for several hosts, I just generate the config from a template, then run the backup... and repeat for each host. |
| 08:52.56 | ToyKeeper | Each host has like 3 lines of config: |
| 08:53.01 | ToyKeeper | exclude_file /backups/exclude.host |
| 08:53.33 | ToyKeeper | snapshot_root /backups/host/ |
| 08:53.33 | ToyKeeper | backup root@host:/ root/ |
| 08:54.02 | ToyKeeper | I'm all babbly. I think I'm avoiding work. |
| 09:09.02 | ChipX86 | I'll have to deal with it tomorrow |
| 09:09.05 | ChipX86|Sleep | g'night |
| 09:11.20 | ToyKeeper | 'night |
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| 14:30.59 | kergoth | morning |
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| 15:20.36 | file[laptop] | Holly in payroll scares me |
| 15:20.42 | Cae | why? |
| 15:20.46 | file[laptop] | she has amazing timing |
| 15:20.56 | file[laptop] | my paycheck arrives every month, on the exact right day |
| 15:21.28 | Cae | heh |
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| 16:02.24 | Cae | grats |
| 16:02.27 | file | excellent |
| 16:02.33 | Cae | did you hold it afterwards? |
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| 16:04.09 | Cae | it's da lurgy |
| 16:04.14 | Cae | in disguise! |
| 16:04.49 | Cae | noooooo |
| 16:05.03 | lurgy|work | morning Cae :) |
| 16:07.10 | lurgy|work | how goes |
| 16:07.51 | Cae | I'm debating how bitchy I feel like being |
| 16:08.18 | lurgy|work | ooh |
| 16:08.20 | lurgy|work | how 'bout.. |
| 16:08.23 | lurgy|work | uberbitchy |
| 16:09.05 | Cae | short version: I'm on the honors student council. I do the webpage. I've been telling them for the past two years to get me someone to train to take over the website, because I don't have the time to update it all the time, and I will eventually graduate and someone needs to take it over once I leave. |
| 16:09.16 | lurgy|work | yeah |
| 16:09.49 | Cae | so..my committee head told me something to the extent of they're upset about me not being available and they want to change the site so they (the most clueless people on earth that probably can't run dreamweaver) can update the site |
| 16:10.02 | Cae | my response to this is something along the lines of "fuck you" and "I told you so" |
| 16:10.20 | Cae | my cards: I'm a senior. I outrank EVERYONE on this council. |
| 16:10.31 | Cae | I own every single line of code on the website. |
| 16:10.38 | Cae | not HSC. me. my copyright. my code. |
| 16:10.48 | Cae | they aren't going to do shit with it without my permission. |
| 16:11.17 | Cae | because if they try to steal it, all I have to do is walk over to the honors office and let them know about that little ethics violation |
| 16:11.41 | Cae | now, I've intended to turn over the copyright to HSC when I leave |
| 16:12.04 | Cae | but now I'm thinking if they don't get me someone to train in the next year, I'm just leaving. with the site. |
| 16:12.33 | file | ya know, lastnight is a blur in my mind... I wonder what I did exactly |
| 16:12.35 | Cae | so I'm debating how bitchy I feel like being when explaining that to my committee head. |
| 16:12.42 | Cae | anyway, I have class, so back later :) |
| 16:12.55 | darth_mall | silly lurgy and his work |
| 16:13.53 | darth_mall | I really really hate all these damn webtools that the CS dept. decides to use to manage their class |
| 16:14.06 | darth_mall | I mean, if there was only one, and it worked, I'd be happy |
| 16:18.15 | lurgy|work | hmm, work |
| 16:18.17 | lurgy|work | blah |
| 16:18.18 | lurgy|work | yeah |
| 16:22.59 | darth_mall | it's ok, I forgive you |
| 16:27.27 | numist | urg |
| 16:27.53 | file | numist! |
| 16:28.10 | numist | yes? |
| 16:28.21 | file | I greet you with greetings of greetingness |
| 16:28.28 | numist | I greet you with morning breath |
| 16:28.48 | numist | Ill be back when Im at work |
| 16:29.34 | file | morning breath == deadly |
| 16:36.11 | kergoth | http://www.expansys-usa.com/product.asp?code=114076 .. ooh, nifty. rather than just a bluetooth headset, its a set of bluetooth headphones, with a foldable mic, and a normal audio jack -> bluetooth dongle so you can use the headphones with normal devices like the mp3 player |
| 16:36.48 | scanlime | wow |
| 16:37.01 | scanlime | "Outdoor company-wide BBQ at lunch today in front ofLegato building on Porter at 11:30" |
| 16:37.08 | kergoth | nice |
| 16:37.37 | scanlime | ooh, and we get presents |
| 16:37.50 | scanlime | "We’ll also have presents for each building, presents for connecting the buildings, and presents for wearing, i.e. a great new t-shirt." |
| 16:38.03 | kergoth | i hate you |
| 16:38.11 | file | presents for connecting the buildings... hrm |
| 16:38.19 | scanlime | yeah, I'm wondering about that |
| 16:38.28 | file | ducks? |
| 16:38.29 | scanlime | wonder if they mean a better network, or some futurama-style tubes ) |
| 16:38.32 | scanlime | :) |
| 16:38.38 | kergoth | woo, tubes |
| 16:38.44 | file | personalized duck trains! |
| 16:39.01 | scanlime | we don't have enough ducks for that |
| 16:39.05 | file | :( |
| 16:39.09 | scanlime | and the waterfall is only at this building |
| 16:54.12 | kergoth | damn i'm on a lot of mailing lists that i dont read |
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| 17:33.47 | scanlime | sigh.. *crash* |
| 17:34.52 | ChipX86 | wonderful timing on the company-wide BBQ.... |
| 17:34.57 | scanlime | oh? |
| 17:35.03 | ChipX86 | *grumble* |
| 17:35.10 | scanlime | what's wrong? |
| 17:35.11 | ChipX86 | I have to deal with IBM at the same time |
| 17:35.16 | scanlime | =( |
| 17:35.23 | scanlime | you can deal with them at the BBQ right? |
| 17:35.25 | scanlime | you have a cell phone? |
| 17:35.27 | ChipX86 | guess I'll do that now and take a taxi to work so I can get there on time |
| 17:35.52 | ChipX86 | yeah I guess |
| 17:35.55 | ChipX86 | I'd rather enjoy myself there though |
| 17:35.58 | ChipX86 | tthere's going to be presents |
| 17:36.01 | scanlime | nod |
| 17:36.11 | ChipX86 | "presents for each building" <- new video games maybe? |
| 17:36.14 | scanlime | I was speculating on what the building-interconnect present might be |
| 17:36.19 | ChipX86 | for connecting the buildings..... hmmmmmm |
| 17:36.21 | scanlime | I figure we'll get futurama-style tubes |
| 17:36.28 | ChipX86 | I think that's probably it |
| 17:36.33 | scanlime | must be |
| 17:36.39 | scanlime | I mean, who really wants to walk or take the shuttle? |
| 17:36.40 | ChipX86 | I know what the t-shirts are |
| 17:36.41 | ChipX86 | :) |
| 17:36.44 | ChipX86 | we got a sneak peak |
| 17:36.45 | scanlime | :) |
| 17:36.48 | ChipX86 | our manager told us |
| 17:36.51 | scanlime | nice |
| 17:37.03 | ChipX86 | yay for multi-present day |
| 17:37.07 | scanlime | also.. is there a big pile of windows XP CDs around here, or will I have to burn my own? |
| 17:37.12 | ChipX86 | dunno |
| 17:37.45 | scanlime | remote kernel debugging from inside a VM doesn't really work right, so I'm having to set up a natve windows on my linux box :( |
| 17:37.51 | scanlime | hence ordering a second hard disk |
| 17:41.09 | ChipX86 | bah my phone isn't working riht anymore |
| 17:41.24 | ChipX86 | the port where you plug the charger in loses connection |
| 17:41.35 | file | your phone may not like you, but I still do |
| 17:43.10 | darth_mall | wee |
| 17:44.59 | ChipX86 | ok, so they said the technician that worked on my laptop wasn't there today :P |
| 17:45.04 | kergoth | :( |
| 17:45.08 | scanlime | already fired? |
| 17:45.09 | scanlime | :P |
| 17:45.14 | ChipX86 | well that's what I'm unsure of |
| 17:45.19 | ChipX86 | see, he said there's nothing wrong with it |
| 17:45.28 | ChipX86 | but the person I talked to today said it's back in for repairs |
| 17:45.34 | ChipX86 | and the list of things to repair is everything I listed |
| 17:45.45 | darth_mall | today in Software Engineering Methods & Tools we learned about inheritance |
| 17:45.46 | ChipX86 | they said they ran extended tests and then sent it into the repair department with that list of things to replace |
| 17:45.52 | ChipX86 | so *hopefully* they're actually doing what I request |
| 17:46.12 | darth_mall | and now we're writing a Java program that uses an automobile class to implement common functionality between a car class and a truck class |
| 17:46.16 | ChipX86 | wow 40 mins until the picnic |
| 17:46.22 | ChipX86 | um, hope a cab can show up in time... |
| 17:46.31 | scanlime | I can give you a ride if you need one |
| 17:46.32 | darth_mall | but the truck class overrides a function in the automobile class... *gasp* |
| 17:46.41 | ChipX86 | scanlime: if it's not too much trouble, I'd really appreciate that |
| 17:46.49 | kergoth | darth_mall: haha, wtf |
| 17:46.49 | scanlime | sure. just lemme know when |
| 17:46.54 | ChipX86 | any time |
| 17:46.56 | ChipX86 | I'm ready now |
| 17:47.00 | scanlime | ah, ok |
| 17:47.01 | kergoth | darth_mall: what exactly does that have to do with software engineering and tools? |
| 17:47.07 | ChipX86 | I thought this phone call was going to extend longer than it did |
| 17:47.16 | darth_mall | it's a good thing my parents' money isn't being wasted on this education >< |
| 17:47.19 | darth_mall | kergoth: hell if I know |
| 17:47.46 | darth_mall | especially since this is a junior level class, and if you don't know about inheritance in by the time you're a junior in CS, you should just give up now |
| 17:48.14 | kergoth | hehe |
| 17:51.46 | darth_mall | oh |
| 17:51.47 | darth_mall | my |
| 17:51.47 | darth_mall | god |
| 17:51.59 | darth_mall | found this on some java tutorial: |
| 17:52.16 | darth_mall | if (speed > speedLimit ? true : false;) |
| 17:52.41 | nullpuppy | ROFL |
| 17:52.49 | nullpuppy | thats awesome |
| 17:54.00 | file | agentbox1*CLI> show uptime |
| 17:54.00 | file | System uptime: 11 weeks, 1 day, 15 hours, 25 minutes, 41 seconds |
| 17:54.06 | file | that's... scary |
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| 18:02.28 | purple_cow | hmm. one of my friends just used a phrase i'm not familiar with, but is awesome |
| 18:02.35 | purple_cow | "getting hot and bothered" |
| 18:02.55 | kergoth | hehe, you've never heard that one? |
| 18:03.56 | purple_cow | apparently not |
| 18:11.07 | darth_mall | it's a good phrase |
| 18:12.16 | numist | ~mornings |
| 18:12.17 | jbot | Mornings MUST be destroyed! (see also http://www.destroymornings.com/) |
| 18:12.23 | numist | wells fargo has stolen/lost $120 of mine |
| 18:12.27 | kergoth | lets see.. $5,228 of debt running at an average of 29% apr |
| 18:12.29 | numist | and I cannot for the life of me tell where it went |
| 18:12.40 | kergoth | eep |
| 18:12.50 | numist | all I know is that I had $95 more than I needed at midnight last night, and this morning at the bank I was $25 short |
| 18:13.51 | kergoth | eep, thats never good, those cash advance rates are way up there |
| 18:13.56 | numist | yes they are |
| 18:14.12 | numist | its not like I dont have lots of wiggle room on my CC, but I really dont like using it, for obvious reasons like debt |
| 18:14.21 | numist | bleh |
| 18:15.03 | purple_cow | heh |
| 18:15.18 | purple_cow | my dad fat-fingered an extra $5500 into my account |
| 18:15.24 | purple_cow | not there anymore though :P |
| 18:15.33 | darth_mall | hehe |
| 18:16.39 | scanlime | hah |
| 18:16.48 | darth_mall | man the computer science department makes me happy |
| 18:17.13 | darth_mall | there is yet another web-based thing for submitting assignments this year |
| 18:17.28 | darth_mall | and we get to copy and paste all of our source files into a single text entry on the webpage to submit them |
| 18:17.32 | scanlime | the CS department should start using CAPA |
| 18:17.34 | darth_mall | fan-fricking-tastic |
| 18:17.42 | scanlime | so it just strcmp()s your assignment against their reference solution |
| 18:17.50 | darth_mall | scanlime: I'm sure if someone doesn't yet, someone will soon |
| 18:18.21 | purple_cow | guh |
| 18:18.24 | purple_cow | what's wrong with email? |
| 18:18.30 | darth_mall | I dunno |
| 18:18.47 | darth_mall | I guess this thing will magically track our progress and give us training suggestions or something at the end of the semesster |
| 18:18.58 | darth_mall | that's what the TA said when nate asked why we're not using WebCT |
| 18:19.16 | darth_mall | I just love how there's at least 3 of these web apps that various profs use for their classes |
| 18:19.44 | darth_mall | yay done |
| 18:20.35 | purple_cow | i guess random web-based submission systems don't bother me as much as expecting me to look at the web page every day |
| 18:44.28 | purple_cow | mmm |
| 18:44.34 | purple_cow | 16 military wives is such a great protest song |
| 18:53.17 | file | great, my dedicated server is down |
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| 19:07.16 | kergoth | morning Cae |
| 19:07.45 | Cae | afternoon |
| 19:09.01 | kergoth | how goes it? |
| 19:10.39 | Cae | blargh. |
| 19:10.49 | kergoth | ah, one of -those- days |
| 19:10.50 | Cae | or maybe blareuagh. |
| 19:11.01 | Cae | hm. yes. blareuagh. |
| 19:13.41 | kergoth | <_keffo> "Poisonous ants bit a woman´s private parts after she´d spread honey on them to atract her cat." |
| 19:14.09 | Cae | hm. cats do have good tongues..don't think I'd invite one there though.. |
| 19:14.36 | kergoth | seems like the roughness of the tongue could be an issue though |
| 19:15.28 | Cae | yeah |
| 19:15.39 | Cae | she'd do better with a dog and peanut butter |
| 19:15.50 | Cae | have you *seen* a dog go after peanut butter? |
| 19:16.01 | Cae | the ants wouldn't stand a chance |
| 19:16.42 | kergoth | i think my old dog would go after the ants with almost as much enthusiasm as the peanut butter |
| 19:16.51 | kergoth | he used to stand outside of a bee hive and eat the bees that came out |
| 19:16.54 | kergoth | that was pretty entertaining |
| 19:16.58 | kergoth | especially when he'd get his nose stung |
| 19:17.19 | purple_cow | yay dogs |
| 19:17.20 | file | Holly Holly Holly... |
| 19:17.27 | file | I figured out what's wrong with my paycheck |
| 19:17.36 | numist | kergoth: not a very bright animal? |
| 19:17.37 | file | she subtracted my backpay, instead of adding it on |
| 19:18.21 | kergoth | numist: he's actually a pretty clever dog. can open both of the gates in the fences, the sliding doors at the house, and used to jump over the chain link fences |
| 19:18.23 | purple_cow | who was it here that was spreading peanut butter on their dog's nose? |
| 19:18.32 | kergoth | i think that was hardwire |
| 19:18.48 | Cae | I've done that once or twice |
| 19:24.13 | purple_cow | hmm |
| 19:41.02 | Cae | "Police said Wellinger had a blood-alcohol level of 0.43 when his GMC Yukon Denali -- traveling at about 70 mph -- slammed into Weinstein's 1999 Honda Accord on 12 Mile Road, just east of Orchard Lake Road. Under Michigan law, it is illegal to drive with a bodily alcohol content of 0.08 or more." |
| 19:41.05 | Cae | 0.43 |
| 19:41.24 | Cae | that's getting to the "too much blood in your alcohol-stream" state |
| 19:41.34 | Cae | eep, class |
| 19:41.36 | numist | yeah |
| 19:41.53 | numist | http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2005/08/31/bush_gives_new_reason_for_iraq_war/ <-- could you possibly be any more transparent than *that* |
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| 19:52.29 | ChipX86 | back |
| 19:57.23 | scanlime | wow |
| 19:57.31 | scanlime | WINEDEBUG=trace+all is really really slow :) |
| 19:57.35 | ChipX86 | heh |
| 19:57.38 | ChipX86 | you disappeared |
| 19:57.45 | ChipX86 | I was going to introduce you to Kae-Chy |
| 19:57.48 | scanlime | poof! |
| 19:57.50 | scanlime | ah |
| 19:57.52 | scanlime | sorry |
| 19:57.57 | ChipX86 | s'ok :) |
| 19:58.11 | ChipX86 | it was good seeing her again though. Haven't had a chance to talk to her since I left Hillview :( |
| 20:02.03 | purple_cow | hrm. i wish freevo was on CIA :( |
| 20:02.22 | scanlime | you could bug them about it again |
| 20:02.24 | ChipX86 | EMC is matching employee contributions to help with Katrina |
| 20:02.30 | scanlime | last time I asked they didn't want it on there |
| 20:02.37 | ChipX86 | scanlime: why? |
| 20:02.45 | scanlime | I forget |
| 20:03.26 | ChipX86 | oh, I was going to show you my Zero plushy |
| 20:03.28 | purple_cow | not worth it. chances are they haven't changed their minds :P |
| 20:03.42 | ChipX86 | isn't there a commits listserv? |
| 20:03.52 | purple_cow | there is |
| 20:03.54 | scanlime | probably |
| 20:07.41 | ChipX86 | heh IBM called |
| 20:07.53 | ChipX86 | massive miscommunications everywhere |
| 20:07.59 | ChipX86 | "You sent this in because of cracks on the case?" |
| 20:08.02 | ChipX86 | "No, a creaking sound." |
| 20:08.05 | ChipX86 | "Where are the cracks?" |
| 20:08.15 | ChipX86 | "There are no cracks. It makes a creaking sound when you type. blah blah blah" |
| 20:08.22 | ChipX86 | er, when you rest your hand on it, rather |
| 20:09.35 | kergoth | heh |
| 20:10.09 | ChipX86 | so the lady (who I get the impression is a bit higher up, but who knows) is going out to inspect the laptop's casing herself now |
| 20:10.17 | purple_cow | there are probably cracks there, but too small to really see |
| 20:10.26 | ChipX86 | nod |
| 20:10.39 | ChipX86 | they thought I meant though that there were very noticeable cracks |
| 20:10.48 | ChipX86 | they claim they have replaced the LCD and motherboard, which is good |
| 20:11.07 | file | isn't this a second time? |
| 20:11.12 | ChipX86 | yes |
| 20:11.17 | file | ...yeah |
| 20:11.22 | ChipX86 | they still say they haven't found anything wrong |
| 20:11.34 | ChipX86 | their diagnostics software didn't detect problems :P |
| 20:11.39 | purple_cow | hah |
| 20:11.51 | ChipX86 | I keep telling them, the problems manifest after using it for a couple of hours |
| 20:11.58 | ChipX86 | aside from the creaking and the LCD |
| 20:17.46 | ChipX86 | IBM called again |
| 20:17.56 | ChipX86 | the lady was kind of rude, but anyway, everything's been replaced, she says |
| 20:18.02 | file | cool |
| 20:18.12 | ChipX86 | she claims the casing isn't a problem and they think that maybe something was loose |
| 20:18.15 | ChipX86 | but who knows... |
| 20:18.24 | ChipX86 | if it's a major annoyance, I'll yell at them again, maybe. |
| 20:18.37 | scanlime | wow |
| 20:18.38 | ChipX86 | but I don't even really want to deal with IBM again on anything |
| 20:18.42 | scanlime | ChipX86: I like the new progress bar :) |
| 20:18.50 | ChipX86 | I just won't buy anything from them again |
| 20:18.54 | ChipX86 | scanlime: new progress bar? |
| 20:19.16 | scanlime | I think it's new... |
| 20:19.18 | ChipX86 | ohhhh |
| 20:19.22 | ChipX86 | is that in now? |
| 20:19.24 | ChipX86 | if I'm thinking of the same thing |
| 20:19.33 | scanlime | you should know :P |
| 20:24.36 | ChipX86 | what do you think of the shirts? |
| 20:26.16 | scanlime | looks good. I like hawaiian shirts :) |
| 20:26.23 | scanlime | I'm glad I got a large rather than XL, this looks kinda big |
| 20:26.52 | scanlime | ah, and another email from chris |
| 20:27.05 | kergoth | "and remember, today is hawaiian shirt day.." </obligatory office space reference> |
| 20:27.11 | ChipX86 | hah |
| 20:27.12 | scanlime | hmm.. seen (nt) in the subject to indicate there's no body, but (eof) is a new one on me :) |
| 20:27.18 | ChipX86 | "Workstation Five-O" |
| 20:27.33 | ChipX86 | scanlime: that's pretty much become a standard here |
| 20:27.45 | scanlime | the tiki widget on these shirts looks just like those overpriced flash drives |
| 20:27.50 | numist | nice |
| 20:28.02 | purple_cow | that's not a widget dammit! |
| 20:28.06 | scanlime | haha |
| 20:28.09 | scanlime | everything's a widget |
| 20:28.27 | purple_cow | stabbity stab stab |
| 20:30.11 | ChipX86 | grrr |
| 20:30.17 | ChipX86 | how do I get this thing to keep a better connection.. |
| 20:30.28 | scanlime | cell phone? |
| 20:30.37 | ChipX86 | yeah. |
| 20:30.40 | scanlime | you need one of those signal amplifier stickers |
| 20:30.58 | ChipX86 | not that kind of connection |
| 20:31.05 | ChipX86 | it has a bad connection with the charger :( |
| 20:31.14 | scanlime | ah. where is the badness exactly? |
| 20:31.31 | purple_cow | the data cable for my cell phone came with a little radiation absorber sticker |
| 20:31.43 | ChipX86 | I believe it's in the actual port that you plug the charger into. My mom has this phone and has the same problem. She's tried two chargers |
| 20:31.54 | numist | boo |
| 20:32.34 | ChipX86 | considering my contract is up, I think I'll just get a new phone with bluetooth |
| 20:32.44 | ChipX86 | and do a family plan thing with Jamie |
| 20:32.45 | scanlime | mmm. I want bluetooth |
| 20:32.48 | purple_cow | darth_mall's new razr is cute :) |
| 20:32.54 | ChipX86 | I'm considering the razr :) |
| 20:33.00 | kergoth | i'm thinking about getting the razr too, the black one |
| 20:33.07 | ChipX86 | I'd rather pay a little and buy a good phone instead of getting another crappy phone |
| 20:33.27 | kergoth | ChipX86: who's your service with currently? |
| 20:33.36 | ChipX86 | Sprint |
| 20:33.41 | kergoth | ah |
| 20:34.11 | numist | yay sprint |
| 20:34.17 | kergoth | was gonna say, you can pick up a razr 3 unlocked online rather than buying one with a contract, then you could switch service companies if you chose to, just swap the sim card |
| 20:34.36 | ChipX86 | how much? |
| 20:34.38 | ChipX86 | still might be worth it |
| 20:34.42 | kergoth | like $305 |
| 20:34.44 | ChipX86 | hrm |
| 20:34.49 | ChipX86 | or $200 with contract.. |
| 20:35.05 | kergoth | http://www.expansys-usa.com/product.asp?code=120110 |
| 20:35.06 | ChipX86 | "3D Graphics Engine" |
| 20:35.08 | ChipX86 | phones these days.../ |
| 20:35.26 | kergoth | hehe |
| 20:36.03 | ChipX86 | I think I'll get one |
| 20:36.07 | ChipX86 | hmmmmm |
| 20:36.08 | ChipX86 | you know |
| 20:36.16 | ChipX86 | I've been trying to come up with a present for Jamie |
| 20:36.20 | ChipX86 | a cell phone would be a good one |
| 20:36.43 | ChipX86 | now, who's a good cell service? |
| 20:36.50 | ChipX86 | is Cingular non-crappy now? |
| 20:36.57 | ChipX86 | because range is limited in Chico |
| 20:37.07 | numist | ChipX86: if you're on sprint, just hook her up with you and you dont have to limit time anymore :) |
| 20:37.08 | itodd | verizon is the only usable one here where i am |
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| 20:37.22 | kergoth | i'd recommend going through a place that uses gsm, for one, since gsm tends to be used more out of the US, and has the flexibility that comes with using a SIM card |
| 20:37.24 | numist | cingular has excellent range... theyre the only people that work entirely in Marin |
| 20:37.31 | kergoth | "unlocked" is meaningless for cdma |
| 20:37.42 | ChipX86 | numist: I want to go away from sprint |
| 20:37.44 | kergoth | iirc the new at&t stuff, cingular, and t-mobile are gsm |
| 20:37.54 | kergoth | i've been pretty happy with t-mobile myself. never tried cingular |
| 20:37.56 | kergoth | wasnt happy with sprint |
| 20:38.02 | numist | ChipX86: aw :( |
| 20:38.08 | ChipX86 | t-mobile's coverage of the college isn't very good, iirc |
| 20:38.23 | ChipX86 | though I can't remember if Cingular's is any better |
| 20:38.25 | numist | Im happy with sprint, I boycott verizon, cingular is good, the others I'm 'meh' towards |
| 20:38.27 | kergoth | is it cingular that has the rollover? |
| 20:38.31 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 20:38.33 | numist | kergoth: yes |
| 20:38.33 | kergoth | i think i might try them next |
| 20:38.57 | numist | hehe, treating cell companies like distros? |
| 20:39.19 | kergoth | hmm, if you buy an unlocked phone and go to a new service company, you'd need a new sim card.. i wonder if you can call and tell them you want to sign up and get them to send you one, or what |
| 20:39.20 | darth_mall | kergoth: then we can call each other without wasting minutes! |
| 20:39.30 | kergoth | yay! |
| 20:39.47 | darth_mall | indeed |
| 20:39.52 | ChipX86 | Cingular has that "you can call anybody in Cingular and it's free" thing |
| 20:39.55 | ChipX86 | I think |
| 20:40.04 | numist | hey, and I can call ChipX86 right now and it wont cost us anything! |
| 20:40.21 | numist | ChipX86: every company has the 'you can call anyone on the same net and its free' thing |
| 20:40.27 | ChipX86 | not Sprint |
| 20:40.30 | numist | yes they do |
| 20:40.33 | numist | Ive had it for years now |
| 20:40.38 | ChipX86 | hrm |
| 20:40.42 | ChipX86 | I don't think our plan covers that. |
| 20:40.45 | ChipX86 | but maybe. |
| 20:41.49 | ChipX86 | hmmm |
| 20:41.58 | ChipX86 | $80/mo for two lines, 1000 anytime minutes |
| 20:42.33 | ChipX86 | scanlime: meeting in 18 mins |
| 20:43.04 | darth_mall | I think most providers these days do the "call anyone on our service without using minutes" thing |
| 20:43.13 | darth_mall | Verizon added that to their service about a year ago |
| 20:43.25 | darth_mall | Cingular does it (I checked when I switched) |
| 20:43.27 | ChipX86 | I should get my mom on whatever plan I'm on so it won't cost us, and because her contract's expiring too (we're on the family plan) |
| 20:43.32 | ChipX86 | darth_mall: do you like cingular? |
| 20:43.40 | darth_mall | well, I haven't been using it very long, but so far so good |
| 20:43.53 | darth_mall | I don't really notice a significant difference between it and Verizon |
| 20:44.01 | darth_mall | but I did get better reception at my parents' house |
| 20:44.07 | darth_mall | which is to say, I got any reception at all |
| 20:44.09 | ChipX86 | tack on $20/mo for unlimited web.. |
| 20:44.18 | ChipX86 | so $100/mo for both of us |
| 20:44.25 | ChipX86 | cell phones are so expensive. |
| 20:44.31 | numist | yep |
| 20:44.52 | ChipX86 | hmmm |
| 20:44.52 | darth_mall | mine's not bad |
| 20:44.54 | ChipX86 | no roaming charges |
| 20:44.58 | ChipX86 | that's good at least |
| 20:45.01 | darth_mall | yeah |
| 20:45.03 | darth_mall | and rollover too |
| 20:45.08 | ChipX86 | my cell phone is my only phone |
| 20:45.12 | darth_mall | that was the primary reason I switched |
| 20:45.13 | ChipX86 | so minutes are good |
| 20:45.16 | numist | ChipX86: thats as long as your on the network though... if your phone is on someone elses network, you still get a surcharge iirc |
| 20:45.19 | ChipX86 | I don't use a land line |
| 20:45.26 | numist | just means that if you are in boston, its ok |
| 20:45.28 | ChipX86 | numist: :( |
| 20:45.49 | numist | so, when Im in Marin and my phone can only pick up Cingular's net, I would get charged, which is why I just turn it off |
| 20:46.06 | numist | people know how to reach me when Im up there if its something important |
| 20:46.18 | numist | leave a message on the phone and IRC :) |
| 20:47.10 | ChipX86 | brb |
| 20:47.14 | ChipX86 | actually, nm |
| 20:47.19 | ChipX86 | phone has almost no power left. |
| 20:47.26 | numist | haccp talk on 5 minutes, yay |
| 20:47.32 | numist | oop, 5 minutes is up |
| 20:49.38 | darth_mall | hrm |
| 20:49.38 | darth_mall | I don't remember which modules I was supposed to be rewriting in python |
| 20:49.38 | darth_mall | purple_cow: did you disappear already? |
| 20:50.45 | darth_mall | oh neat |
| 20:50.47 | darth_mall | unslung binary |
| 20:50.55 | darth_mall | saves me the compile time ^^ |
| 20:53.27 | *** join/#tacobeam Cae (n=mschneid@Bloc-14.isc.tamu.edu) |
| 21:02.52 | Cae | dan dan dan lurgy lurgy llama! |
| 21:05.15 | Cae | good darth_mall, attract the bugs |
| 21:10.07 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10bzflag/ (22 files in 2 dirs): add a pdcurses release target for windows ( builds with DLL runtimes ) |
| 21:11.25 | *** join/#tacobeam file[laptop] (n=jcolp@mctnnbsa30w-156034035160.nb.aliant.net) |
| 21:11.28 | darth_mall | Cae: not exactly bugs |
| 21:14.46 | kergoth | <-- rindolf has quit ("Yay! I'm a Llama again!") |
| 21:14.47 | darth_mall | ooh neat |
| 21:14.53 | Cae | oh? |
| 21:14.54 | darth_mall | it looks like it didn't break anything |
| 21:14.59 | Cae | cool |
| 21:16.02 | Cae | eww |
| 21:16.04 | Cae | telnet |
| 21:16.09 | Cae | vile insecurity |
| 21:16.09 | darth_mall | yeah |
| 21:16.14 | kergoth | crappy protocol too |
| 21:16.16 | darth_mall | that's what the instructions call fo |
| 21:16.20 | kergoth | prone to fun option negotation loops and stuff |
| 21:16.23 | Cae | but it's telnet! |
| 21:16.34 | Cae | can't you install something more...wholesome? |
| 21:16.53 | darth_mall | awesome |
| 21:16.56 | darth_mall | I can get into it |
| 21:16.59 | Cae | telnet is like the seedy $5 whore that's missing half of her teeth. and you're not sure it's a her. |
| 21:17.08 | darth_mall | Cae: I will install better things once I get the system up and running |
| 21:17.19 | Cae | bah |
| 21:17.36 | darth_mall | go hollar at the unslung devs about it, not me |
| 21:17.42 | Cae | heh |
| 21:18.04 | kergoth | pfft, unslung |
| 21:18.05 | kergoth | ;) |
| 21:21.27 | Cae | hm. I hope Brad's face is fine. |
| 21:21.33 | kergoth | ? |
| 21:21.34 | Cae | I..er.. |
| 21:21.41 | Cae | I was sitting in a chair |
| 21:21.49 | Cae | and he started spinning it around and around |
| 21:22.05 | Cae | so I was going to let him do that till he got bored (since I don't get dizzy unless I feel like it) |
| 21:22.09 | Cae | but I got bored |
| 21:22.14 | Cae | so...I stuck an arm out |
| 21:22.19 | Cae | and slapped him |
| 21:22.54 | Cae | and unfortunately I was rather relaxed at the time, which means I hit a bit harder than I intended |
| 21:23.10 | Cae | (though not as hard as I can) |
| 21:23.43 | Cae | *shrug* you'd have to know Brad to know why slapping him is an acceptable response to just about anything he does |
| 21:23.59 | ToyKeeper | Hey, sounds like a Brad I know. |
| 21:24.03 | Cae | well. slapping. hitting. kicking. general physical abuse. |
| 21:24.33 | Cae | he brings out the violent tendencies in me :P |
| 21:24.41 | Cae | well. the ones that don't involve weapons |
| 21:26.32 | darth_mall | hrm |
| 21:32.08 | Cae | hrm? |
| 21:34.58 | darth_mall | well, it appears my install went ok, but unslung isn't finding my disk |
| 21:35.08 | darth_mall | I can mount it manually, but I still can't unsling |
| 21:36.28 | Cae | hm |
| 21:37.01 | *** join/#tacobeam pagefault (i=Eric@67.71.45.123) |
| 21:38.14 | darth_mall | it would be nice to get this all fixed before class tonight |
| 21:39.13 | slimspace | darth_mall: hmm? |
| 21:39.27 | pagefault | wee |
| 21:39.58 | darth_mall | nevermind |
| 21:40.14 | darth_mall | was gonna ask you about the reading assignment, then I decided to be self-sufficient and look at the course webpage |
| 21:41.54 | numist | nice |
| 21:42.02 | numist | I wish my roommate was like you, darth_mall |
| 21:42.50 | darth_mall | numist: naw, I'm a jerk |
| 21:43.01 | darth_mall | ask purple_cow and scanlime about living with me ^^ |
| 21:43.03 | numist | darth_mall: thats ok, Im perfectly fine with being a jerk back :) |
| 21:43.37 | purple_cow | hah |
| 21:43.39 | darth_mall | 'course, I don't think he's actually done anything with unslung |
| 21:43.44 | purple_cow | ``Katrina actually prevents a disaster as production is halted on the new Kevin Costner/Ashton Kucher film in Louisiana'' |
| 21:43.59 | darth_mall | purple_cow: where were those C++ modules I was supposed to port over to Python? |
| 21:44.01 | purple_cow | darth_mall's not a jerk, he just sheds all over the bathroom |
| 21:44.15 | darth_mall | I don't shed nearly as much now that my hair is short |
| 21:44.19 | purple_cow | darth_mall: motion/shuffle-interpolation |
| 21:44.33 | purple_cow | most of it doesn't come from your head :P |
| 21:44.42 | kergoth | darth_mall: #nslu2-linux ? :P |
| 21:45.17 | darth_mall | purple_cow: that can't possibly have been only me, because my bathroom doesn't look like that |
| 21:45.29 | darth_mall | kergoth: no one's around =\ |
| 21:45.37 | kergoth | ah |
| 21:45.55 | purple_cow | well, you've only been there for a few weeks |
| 21:46.00 | purple_cow | we didn't clean the bathroom nearly that often :P |
| 21:46.20 | darth_mall | purple_cow: it only took 2 or 3 weeks for the bathroom to start getting pretty dirty again after it would get clean |
| 21:46.31 | purple_cow | thats trure |
| 21:47.50 | pagefault | haha how do you ban violent porn |
| 21:48.09 | pagefault | thats the silliest thing |
| 21:49.12 | darth_mall | wow... this troubleshoot a missing drive section on nslu2-linux really sucks |
| 21:49.55 | darth_mall | it tells me to mount the missing drive and run 'df', if I don't see sda1 it says there's a problem that they don't know how to fix. But it doesn't say anything about if I do see sda1 |
| 21:53.27 | Cae | http://www.cornellsun.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2005/08/30/4313b85a2faf8 |
| 21:54.54 | Cae | (side note: you guys going down on us makes at least some of us more inclined to go down in return...) leaving :) |
| 21:55.31 | darth_mall | ummm |
| 21:56.05 | purple_cow | darth_mall: if you see sda1, try to mount it :P |
| 21:58.40 | darth_mall | purple_cow: I did |
| 21:58.45 | darth_mall | then you're supposed to run df |
| 21:59.07 | darth_mall | the instructions say if you mounted sda1 and df doesn't see it, there's a problem they dont' know how to fix yet |
| 21:59.36 | darth_mall | but it doesn't tell you what to do if df does see sda1 after it's mounted and the web interface still doesn't see it |
| 22:03.25 | darth_mall | or... I could be an idiot and I wasn't looking in the right place on the web interface |
| 22:03.47 | purple_cow | or that |
| 22:03.51 | darth_mall | we shall see |
| 22:04.06 | darth_mall | if I'm able to get it working after this, then in fact I am an idiot |
| 22:05.27 | purple_cow | that article seems really pointless to me :P |
| 22:05.51 | purple_cow | OMG! there's a guy out there who's not fantastic in bed! |
| 22:05.51 | darth_mall | quite |
| 22:06.10 | darth_mall | hrm |
| 22:06.13 | darth_mall | what to listen to now |
| 22:07.08 | purple_cow | the bobs! |
| 22:09.10 | darth_mall | woo! I rock! |
| 22:09.19 | kergoth | heh, get it working? |
| 22:09.20 | darth_mall | also, woo! I'm an idiot! |
| 22:09.23 | darth_mall | kergoth: yeah |
| 22:09.24 | kergoth | hehe |
| 22:10.36 | purple_cow | darth_mall: we should meet with the genome people tomorrow |
| 22:10.43 | purple_cow | i'm done after 3:15 |
| 22:11.25 | darth_mall | ok |
| 22:11.29 | darth_mall | I'll talk to Cory and send an e-mail |
| 22:12.19 | file | what's an iptables rule where I can make 61.133.218.110 unable to touch my machine? |
| 22:12.27 | purple_cow | we might as well go over to their office |
| 22:12.36 | purple_cow | since i think the thing said they already had a working piece of software |
| 22:12.52 | kergoth | iptables -A INPUT -s 61.133.218.110 -j DROP; or something |
| 22:12.56 | darth_mall | purple_cow: sounds good |
| 22:13.01 | file | kergoth: beautiful, I owe you a beer |
| 22:13.05 | kergoth | mm, beer |
| 22:13.28 | darth_mall | awesome! |
| 22:13.30 | purple_cow | yeah, they have an implementation |
| 22:13.36 | purple_cow | mmm |
| 22:13.46 | purple_cow | "you can play songs with these chords" is fast becoming one of my favorite albums |
| 22:13.52 | purple_cow | especially the second track |
| 22:14.28 | purple_cow | hrmph |
| 22:14.41 | purple_cow | stabby stab |
| 22:14.57 | kergoth | what the heck is a biographical sketch? |
| 22:15.09 | purple_cow | writing about myself |
| 22:15.15 | purple_cow | except in the third person :P |
| 22:16.11 | kergoth | "Now, being a journalist for the computer industry, I am forbidden from engaging in any physically strenuous activities that might result in the promotion of physical fitness. (It's against the union bylaws.)" |
| 22:18.10 | darth_mall | purple_cow: you should write about how you and Bruce Lee saved the world from destruction when MAD and COBRA joined forces to create a doomsday laser on the moon |
| 22:19.00 | purple_cow | hehehehe |
| 22:19.10 | purple_cow | i think i'd get in trouble, but that's really tempting |
| 22:19.15 | numist | that was purple_cow?! :o |
| 22:19.22 | numist | my hero! |
| 22:19.49 | kergoth | http://www.phoneyworld.com/newspage.aspx?n=1326 |
| 22:19.54 | kergoth | look at that |
| 22:20.05 | pagefault | I hate my DNS servers |
| 22:20.12 | file | wow, that was insane timing |
| 22:20.17 | pagefault | hello file |
| 22:20.19 | file | hi |
| 22:20.31 | darth_mall | I rock! |
| 22:20.37 | kergoth | yay gorillaz |
| 22:20.39 | file | try 209.244.0.3 and 209.244.0.4... they're Level3's |
| 22:21.03 | pagefault | yay free dns |
| 22:21.15 | numist | yay |
| 22:21.26 | purple_cow | hmm |
| 22:21.28 | purple_cow | where is that rich kid |
| 22:22.07 | darth_mall | as in Laser_Dolphin? |
| 22:22.42 | purple_cow | yep |
| 22:22.48 | purple_cow | since he knows how to do all that stuff |
| 22:23.21 | darth_mall | I've got his cell # |
| 22:23.57 | purple_cow | it's not urgent enough that i'd want to use a phone ;) |
| 22:24.04 | purple_cow | and i'd probably need to draw pictures |
| 22:24.32 | darth_mall | but it's fun calling Rich |
| 22:24.41 | purple_cow | but not for actual conversations |
| 22:24.42 | darth_mall | especially if he doesn't know who's calling him |
| 22:24.43 | ChipX86 | yay for cool change numbers - #254254 |
| 22:24.50 | file | c'mon emacs, open for me |
| 22:28.46 | file | sweet my round robin module is working |
| 22:32.07 | pagefault | CAD is 84.3 cents |
| 22:32.08 | pagefault | thats crazy |
| 22:32.13 | kergoth | christ i hate fucking cgi work |
| 22:32.18 | kergoth | error 500, how i hate thee |
| 22:33.03 | ChipX86 | http://photos23.flickr.com/38725768_16c66eb58b.jpg |
| 22:34.13 | file | pagefault: bleh, makes my paycheck that much less :P |
| 22:34.34 | purple_cow | yipes |
| 22:34.41 | purple_cow | gotta love journalism |
| 22:35.08 | ChipX86 | yep. |
| 22:36.09 | kergoth | wowie |
| 22:36.23 | kergoth | switching from my old mailserver t ogmail really helps me realize just how much mail i get on a daily basis |
| 22:36.35 | kergoth | no happy procmail rules shuffling things into folders behind the scenes |
| 22:44.37 | purple_cow | it's not hard to write filters to tag + archive |
| 22:45.53 | kergoth | didnt say it was, i'm just new to gmail, so everything is stock |
| 22:49.58 | kergoth | didnt say it was, i'm just new to gmail, so everything is stock |
| 22:49.59 | kergoth | bah |
| 22:50.02 | kergoth | wrong wi ndow |
| 22:55.59 | pagefault | http://www.weatheroffice.ec.gc.ca/radar/index_e.html?id=WKR |
| 22:56.02 | pagefault | yay no rain |
| 22:56.16 | pagefault | I should go wash my car |
| 22:57.29 | file | good idea |
| 23:03.52 | *** join/#tacobeam itodd (n=itodd@chargedsoftware.com) |
| 23:04.35 | pagefault | I wish vmware wouldn't keep messing with my volume |
| 23:04.50 | ChipX86 | it's not us |
| 23:05.00 | pagefault | yeah it is |
| 23:05.05 | ChipX86 | blame the guest |
| 23:05.09 | pagefault | when I boot an OS it mutes my volume on my host system |
| 23:05.27 | ChipX86 | I haven't seen that |
| 23:05.35 | pagefault | it's definiately vmware |
| 23:15.13 | ChipX86 | yayay |
| 23:17.21 | purple_cow | haha, awesome |
| 23:17.23 | purple_cow | http://jrb.webwynk.net/files/evince-sponsor.png |
| 23:18.07 | ChipX86 | hah nice |
| 23:18.10 | ChipX86 | I kind of like that |
| 23:25.42 | *** join/#tacobeam itodd (n=itodd@chargedsoftware.com) |
| 23:30.30 | darth_mall | there he are |
| 23:35.21 | numist | kinky |
| 23:35.40 | slimspace | highly |
| 23:35.49 | kergoth | yay, home |
| 23:37.22 | slimspace | but I still work at Ball! |
| 23:37.29 | scanlime | stabbstabby |
| 23:37.59 | numist | for reference, SG? |
| 23:38.04 | slimspace | Space Grant |
| 23:38.07 | numist | right |
| 23:38.14 | numist | ok then |
| 23:38.30 | numist | in other channels Id have expected Suicide Girls :/ |
| 23:38.34 | ChipX86 | what the hell. |
| 23:38.38 | ChipX86 | IBM just called |
| 23:38.45 | numist | ChipX86: ? |
| 23:38.49 | ChipX86 | they said they can't find a thing wrong with the laptop and haven't made any changes and are sending it back |
| 23:38.53 | slimspace | numist: what channels be those? |
| 23:38.59 | ChipX86 | but they called me a few hours ago and said they replaced everything and are sending it back |
| 23:39.02 | ChipX86 | so wtf is the story here |
| 23:39.09 | numist | slimspace: #themaxx comes to mind first |
| 23:39.25 | numist | ChipX86: :o |
| 23:39.28 | slimspace | I see... |
| 23:39.47 | numist | slimspace: lotta folk that are very pornography-oriented |
| 23:39.58 | darth_mall | sounds fun |
| 23:39.59 | numist | hence an SG meeting could in fact be kinky if you're into that sort of thing ;) |
| 23:40.16 | slimspace | scary |
| 23:41.19 | numist | yeah |
| 23:42.10 | ChipX86 | *grumble* I hope I actually get a working laptop |
| 23:42.21 | ChipX86 | I am avoiding IBM/Lenovo like the plague from now on |
| 23:42.27 | ChipX86 | they seem absolutely incompetent |
| 23:42.33 | slimspace | ChipX86: maybe they fixed it and sent it to the QA guys, who thought it was the original |
| 23:42.46 | ChipX86 | slimspace: there should be a log of everything they do |
| 23:42.52 | purple_cow | ChipX86: i wonder if they confused someone else's with yours |
| 23:42.57 | purple_cow | so they're tracking two different laptops |
| 23:43.06 | ChipX86 | purple_cow: maybe.... I don't know |
| 23:43.27 | ChipX86 | if I get this back and it's problematic, I'm pursuing this in a whole new way |
| 23:43.31 | ChipX86 | purple_cow: I did too last time I sent mine in |
| 23:43.42 | ChipX86 | I feel like things just went horribly downhill recently |
| 23:43.47 | ChipX86 | there is no excuse for this |
| 23:43.59 | numist | must have been really recently, because I had a warranty call 2 weeks ago that went great |
| 23:44.28 | ChipX86 | hrm |
| 23:44.29 | ChipX86 | weird.. |
| 23:45.19 | kergoth | bah, work is on the same private network as home |
| 23:45.28 | kergoth | so vpn'ing in, i have two routes to the same network :) |
| 23:45.35 | numist | nice |
| 23:45.45 | kergoth | maybe i'll do some packet mangling, make the remote network appear to be on a different one |
| 23:45.55 | scanlime | woo.. scsi drivers |
| 23:46.01 | scanlime | for windows xp |
| 23:46.13 | slimspace | heh, laptop key clicking in stereo |
| 23:46.33 | darth_mall | that's how I always felt sitting between you and scanlime last spring in OOP |
| 23:46.41 | slimspace | :) |
| 23:48.04 | ChipX86 | maybe I'll get two laptops back |
| 23:49.20 | *** join/#tacobeam pagefault (i=Eric@pdpc/supporter/active/pagefault) |
| 23:49.33 | pagefault | mmm cheese |
| 23:49.34 | ChipX86 | I bet the laptop I get back will be broken. |
| 23:49.47 | ChipX86 | at which point I'll have to demand a replacement arrive before I send in this one |
| 23:51.19 | pagefault | :( |
| 23:52.31 | ChipX86 | I am just stunned by how bad an experience this is |
| 23:53.11 | darth_mall | =\ |
| 23:58.21 | pagefault | it's bad lappy month |
| 23:58.26 | pagefault | I had to get two |
| 23:58.33 | pagefault | but dell was really nice about it |
| 23:59.24 | numist | I went through two motherboards :/ |
| 23:59.35 | numist | IBM was top notch for the whole thing though |
