| 00:04.10 | pagefault | I love futurama |
| 00:05.54 | pagefault | silly kif |
| 00:06.14 | numist | ~emulate bender |
| 00:06.15 | jbot | Well I don't have anything else planned for today, let's get drunk! |
| 00:06.24 | numist | :D |
| 00:06.25 | pagefault | sounds great |
| 00:06.29 | numist | Im there |
| 00:07.02 | pagefault | ~emulate peter |
| 00:07.03 | jbot | You know those Germans; if you don't join the party, they come get you. |
| 00:07.07 | pagefault | haha |
| 00:07.22 | pagefault | ~emulate peter |
| 00:07.23 | jbot | NOOOOOO. Silly rabbit, Trix are for kids. Damn longears, trying to take Easter away from Jesus. Anyway, what was that you were saying? |
| 00:07.25 | pagefault | haha |
| 00:07.41 | pagefault | ~emulate peter |
| 00:07.43 | jbot | NOOOOOO. Silly rabbit, Trix are for kids. Damn longears, trying to take Easter away from Jesus. Anyway, what was that you were saying? |
| 00:07.45 | pagefault | haha |
| 00:07.50 | numist | ~emulate fry |
| 00:07.52 | jbot | My folks were always on me to groom myself and wear underpants. What am I, the pope? |
| 00:07.52 | pagefault | I guess it doesn't have much |
| 00:08.03 | pagefault | haha |
| 00:08.06 | pagefault | I remember that |
| 00:08.16 | pagefault | ~emulate peter |
| 00:08.17 | jbot | You know those Germans; if you don't join the party, they come get you. |
| 00:08.20 | numist | pagefault: you can add, but it does require some knowlege of whats already there, iirc |
| 00:08.21 | pagefault | ~emulate stewie |
| 00:08.23 | jbot | Yes, I rather like this God fellow. He's very theatrical, you know, a pestilence here, a plague there. Omnipotence. Gotta get me some of that. |
| 00:08.23 | pagefault | haha |
| 00:08.32 | numist | :D |
| 00:08.36 | pagefault | ~emulate stewie |
| 00:08.38 | jbot | I come bearing a gift. I'll give you a hint. It's in my diaper, and it's not a toaster. |
| 00:08.41 | pagefault | hshshs |
| 00:08.42 | pagefault | hahaha |
| 00:08.44 | numist | nice |
| 00:08.45 | numist | ~emulate fry |
| 00:08.46 | jbot | People said I was dumb, but I proved them. |
| 00:08.49 | pagefault | ~emulate peter |
| 00:08.50 | jbot | Chris, everything I say is a lie. Except that. And that. And that. And that. And that. An |
| 00:08.50 | pagefault | haha |
| 00:08.51 | numist | I love that one |
| 00:08.56 | pagefault | hahaha |
| 00:08.57 | pagefault | yeah |
| 00:09.02 | pagefault | this is pretty funny |
| 00:09.17 | numist | lets get drunk |
| 00:09.35 | pagefault | yeah we should when you come out here |
| 00:09.38 | pagefault | whenever |
| 00:10.05 | numist | oh yeah, your in TMA... Ill be there Oct for a wedding... I imagine Ill already be past just drinking at that point though |
| 00:10.16 | numist | maybe christmas is a better idea :P |
| 00:10.22 | pagefault | hehe yeah |
| 00:10.32 | pagefault | no classes so I don't need to worry about retaining information |
| 00:10.33 | pagefault | :) |
| 00:10.41 | numist | I might be driving there for christmas... depends on a few things, but I think it stands a good chance of happening |
| 00:10.55 | pagefault | cool if you do come we should hang out or something for sure |
| 00:11.04 | numist | absolutely |
| 00:11.19 | pagefault | yeah we can I don't know, get drunk I guess |
| 00:11.27 | numist | well, Ill be there, whether flying or driving is up to a few out of scope variables |
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| 00:27.13 | pagefault | ooh |
| 00:27.14 | pagefault | the avengers |
| 00:27.22 | darth_mall | the tv show? |
| 00:27.26 | pagefault | the best thing about digital cable is you get free canadian timeshifting |
| 00:27.30 | pagefault | the movie |
| 00:27.32 | darth_mall | oh |
| 00:27.44 | pagefault | with the canadian timeshifting I can watch stuff later on |
| 00:29.42 | pagefault | why does ASN say it's ATV |
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| 00:33.33 | lurgy | purple_cow: any opinions yet on this new coffee place near us? |
| 00:33.48 | scanlime | how long has it been open? |
| 00:34.00 | purple_cow | a little over a week |
| 00:34.25 | purple_cow | lurgy: pretty good. still a little rough on the espresso drinks, but it's getting better |
| 00:35.11 | CIA-4 | navi-misc: 03evan * r8845 10xchat-gnome/plugins/notification/ (menu.c menu.h): |
| 00:35.11 | CIA-4 | navi-misc: I always forget to have an instance of the object as an argument to the member |
| 00:35.12 | CIA-4 | navi-misc: functions -- fixed that. Implmented channel_menu_add and channel_menu_remove. |
| 00:36.10 | lurgy | purple_cow: nod |
| 00:36.17 | lurgy | purple_cow: this green tea is certainly interesting |
| 00:36.31 | lurgy | but i like it.. i think.. |
| 00:37.14 | darth_mall | heh |
| 00:37.29 | lurgy | tastes like it's been smoked or something |
| 00:37.31 | lurgy | crazy |
| 00:37.36 | purple_cow | crazy |
| 00:38.36 | purple_cow | i doubt i'll be going there for the espresso any more. they're hella convenient for buying large amounts of coffee before my 8am class, but maxspresso is quite a bit better |
| 00:38.50 | lurgy | nod |
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| 00:52.49 | Sophie197 | what'd I miss? |
| 00:53.18 | numist | nothin |
| 00:55.47 | pagefault | a big party |
| 00:56.58 | itodd | ugh |
| 00:57.02 | itodd | never buy a dell |
| 00:57.06 | numist | agreed |
| 00:57.09 | file | I have a Dell, it works great |
| 00:57.17 | pagefault | I love their support |
| 00:57.19 | itodd | i've had this machine for 2 days and now it refuses to boot |
| 00:57.32 | itodd | it wont even let me into the bios |
| 00:57.36 | file | yow'sa |
| 00:58.17 | itodd | now i get to talk to the indians |
| 00:58.26 | itodd | who read from a book |
| 00:58.46 | file | I should go look for a snack |
| 00:59.01 | itodd | thanks for the cookie |
| 01:04.03 | file | oh no it's Veight |
| 01:09.42 | scanlime | sigh... |
| 01:09.46 | scanlime | the problem with MSDN: |
| 01:10.07 | scanlime | I search for articles about WDM bus relations.. I get a press release for a Magic Schoolbus game |
| 01:10.31 | file | lol |
| 01:10.37 | numist | .. |
| 01:10.40 | numist | too much under one roof |
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| 01:18.04 | purple_cow | scanlime: hehehe |
| 01:20.24 | ChipX86 | scanlime: ooh, we get a 12% discount on anything from Dell and VMware's volume pricing on anything from CDW |
| 01:22.22 | file | ChipX86: so, cheaper LCD? |
| 01:22.31 | ChipX86 | probably not |
| 01:22.36 | file | that's sad |
| 01:22.49 | scanlime | oh wow |
| 01:23.08 | ChipX86 | sounds like some of Joey's new code |
| 01:23.37 | scanlime | this is stuff we licensed from another company, so it's understandable.. but I don't know how anyone can tolerate 1 space |
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| 01:34.11 | itodd | dells support is not bad |
| 01:34.21 | itodd | i thought i'd be sent to india, but i wasn't |
| 01:35.03 | itodd | the phone system sucked, but once i was through, the people i talked to has human-like characteristics |
| 01:35.09 | itodd | has/had |
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| 02:11.23 | pagefault | wow I love mustard |
| 02:11.40 | file | really? |
| 02:11.48 | *** topic/#tacobeam by ChipX86 -> But... but space invaders need to do laundry too! || <pagefault> wow I love mustard |
| 02:11.50 | pagefault | yeah a really spicey one |
| 02:15.26 | lurgy | pagefault: i've got some here.. almost a gallon |
| 02:15.42 | lurgy | if you pay me for shipping i'll send half of it to you :P |
| 02:15.55 | file | lurgy: ah right, from your birthday... cheeky bugger |
| 02:16.09 | lurgy | though it's yellow, not enormously spicy |
| 02:16.21 | file | use it yet? |
| 02:17.00 | scanlime | hrm |
| 02:17.03 | scanlime | I guess it's time to go home |
| 02:20.10 | file | what's up? |
| 02:28.27 | pagefault | I need to get another drive |
| 02:28.36 | pagefault | need more space for stuff |
| 02:28.57 | file | I've got 2 sets of Dell hard drive rails in the mail :) yay |
| 02:29.05 | file | so my Dell should have 160GB more space soon |
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| 03:00.36 | pagefault | oh well |
| 03:00.38 | pagefault | daily show it is |
| 03:02.59 | purple_cow | http://www.cs.colorado.edu/~sanders/cs4308/selection/preview.html#p60 |
| 03:05.18 | scanlime | hah! |
| 03:05.21 | scanlime | #56 |
| 03:05.34 | scanlime | that's Steve Wichman's project, I helped him design it :) |
| 03:06.12 | scanlime | it's basically a network transparency widget for several protocols, running on an NSLU2 |
| 03:06.19 | purple_cow | he's got a bunch of them |
| 03:06.31 | scanlime | hmm, yeah |
| 03:06.38 | scanlime | haha |
| 03:06.40 | purple_cow | like 60 ;) |
| 03:06.41 | scanlime | yes, #60 :) |
| 03:06.43 | purple_cow | that cracks me up |
| 03:07.10 | scanlime | heh, redesigned from the ground up |
| 03:07.25 | purple_cow | 'cuz you guys suck |
| 03:07.25 | scanlime | it'll be interesting to see what if anything happens to that |
| 03:07.30 | scanlime | mmyep |
| 03:07.46 | scanlime | I think our problem was that nobody understood my perfect design ;) |
| 03:08.56 | scanlime | sigh.. I wonder if my email address is still in that code anywhere, and if that team's going to be getting a copy of the existing source |
| 03:09.48 | scanlime | oh no.. ubuntu doesn't have monotone |
| 03:11.08 | purple_cow | scanlime: hehehe |
| 03:11.17 | purple_cow | i'd be surprised if it got chosen, actually |
| 03:11.20 | scanlime | yes |
| 03:11.31 | scanlime | it's a very large very badly defined task.. something that really sucks for senior projects |
| 03:11.50 | purple_cow | well, there's that |
| 03:12.15 | purple_cow | there's also the fact that he just added it about 5 minutes ago, and the deadline is approaching |
| 03:12.17 | scanlime | and it doesn't have any flashy java web XML GUI widget interfaces |
| 03:12.27 | purple_cow | so people have already thought about which they want to choose |
| 03:12.41 | scanlime | `/usr/sbin/random-buzzword --count 24` |
| 03:20.29 | scanlime | hehe, neat |
| 03:20.37 | scanlime | micah@yoshi:~/slug$ make build-openslug |
| 03:20.46 | scanlime | and it starts downloading a 100MB monotone database :) |
| 03:22.07 | ToyKeeper | D'oh. Looks like a passive-aggressive war may have just started between the clean freak and the guy who leaves his junk all over. |
| 03:23.03 | ToyKeeper | She moved his notebook while it had all sorts of stuff plugged into it, so there would be space to eat on the table. |
| 03:23.37 | ToyKeeper | Now they're both locked away in their rooms, I think... bleh. |
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| 03:51.22 | scanlime | blahh |
| 03:51.54 | scanlime | host47.linode.com is down.. |
| 03:52.00 | scanlime | no zero |
| 03:52.16 | numist | :( |
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| 04:05.08 | darth_mall | today does not appear to be a good computer day for me |
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| 04:05.36 | scanlime | host47.linode.com went down |
| 04:05.43 | scanlime | zero should be booting up imminently |
| 04:05.59 | scanlime | ah, looks to be booted :P |
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| 04:06.32 | darth_mall | my windows partition is apparently only 4 or 5 gig |
| 04:06.39 | darth_mall | and I'd swear I gave it like 30 gig or more |
| 04:06.58 | purple_cow | fun |
| 04:07.15 | scanlime | fat32? :P |
| 04:07.30 | darth_mall | yeah |
| 04:07.35 | scanlime | that'd be why |
| 04:07.38 | darth_mall | oh really? |
| 04:07.48 | darth_mall | hmm |
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| 04:08.22 | scanlime | I think so... |
| 04:08.37 | scanlime | oh |
| 04:08.43 | scanlime | FAT32 should be able to handle 32GB |
| 04:08.45 | purple_cow | yay brandon lee |
| 04:08.47 | purple_cow | he's so cute |
| 04:08.49 | scanlime | it was FAT16 that was limited to 4GB |
| 04:09.08 | darth_mall | but still, I'm positive this is a 160 gig hd |
| 04:09.21 | darth_mall | and with a 4 gig windows partition, there's like 31 gigs missing |
| 04:09.39 | scanlime | oh, you're missing space in the partition table, not the filesystem? |
| 04:09.55 | darth_mall | I think so |
| 04:10.16 | darth_mall | when I mount that partition in linux it says it's 4 gig |
| 04:10.23 | darth_mall | when I run windows, it says it's 4 gig |
| 04:10.47 | darth_mall | but when I add up the number, I'm missing space |
| 04:10.57 | darth_mall | unless I got a 130 gig hd instead of 160 somehow |
| 04:11.28 | darth_mall | fdisk only shows 4 partitions, no unused space |
| 04:14.12 | purple_cow | how did you create the filesystem? |
| 04:14.18 | purple_cow | was it a fresh windows install? |
| 04:18.01 | darth_mall | purple_cow: it was fresh |
| 04:18.03 | darth_mall | scanlime: that is such a good idea I'm going to do it right now! |
| 04:20.38 | ToyKeeper | What does linode use for virtualization, anyway? |
| 04:20.40 | ToyKeeper | uml? xen? |
| 04:20.40 | purple_cow | uml |
| 04:20.49 | purple_cow | scanlime: ya know, i bet there's at least one person out there that is capable of that |
| 04:23.00 | scanlime | I bet there are some filesystems where that's almost feasible... |
| 04:23.08 | scanlime | cramfs and fat12 maybe |
| 04:24.33 | scanlime | wow... |
| 04:24.34 | scanlime | http://www.linode.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=845 |
| 04:24.52 | numist | ? |
| 04:25.30 | darth_mall | huh |
| 04:25.36 | darth_mall | maybe this disk is only 130 gig |
| 04:25.43 | numist | ... |
| 04:25.52 | darth_mall | I was sure I'd bought a 160 gig disk |
| 04:25.56 | scanlime | darth_mall: marketing gigabytes are a lot smaller than real gigabytes |
| 04:26.12 | darth_mall | but that much smaller? |
| 04:26.33 | darth_mall | a 30 gig difference? |
| 04:26.53 | ToyKeeper | 10**9 instead of 2**30... shouldn't be 30G out of 160 though. |
| 04:27.02 | scanlime | it'd be more like 150GB if yhey're using 'billion bytes'... |
| 04:27.45 | purple_cow | no, it'd be more like 139.7GB ;) |
| 04:28.02 | darth_mall | well, in any case, that space is too small for a windows install that can handle WoW |
| 04:28.31 | ToyKeeper | er... |
| 04:28.34 | ToyKeeper | 160.0 * (10**9) / (2**30) |
| 04:28.36 | scanlime | >>> 160e9 / 2**30 |
| 04:28.36 | scanlime | 149.01161193847656 |
| 04:28.37 | ToyKeeper | 149.0116 |
| 04:28.40 | scanlime | heh |
| 04:28.44 | ToyKeeper | :) |
| 04:28.54 | purple_cow | oh, right 160 ;) |
| 04:29.03 | purple_cow | it's been one of those days |
| 04:29.12 | nullpuppy | darth_mall: gpartd? |
| 04:29.31 | scanlime | sigh.. it's going to be an awful lot of compiling to try the latest unionfs code |
| 04:29.40 | scanlime | they haven't had a release since the one openslug is running |
| 04:29.46 | scanlime | not sure if this bug has been fixed |
| 04:29.52 | purple_cow | mmm pie |
| 04:29.53 | ToyKeeper | At a job interview once, they told me "we used to ask people 'how many bytes in a megabyte?' but nobody ever got it so we stopped asking"... |
| 04:29.56 | darth_mall | purple_cow: for me too >< |
| 04:29.57 | scanlime | unionfs is so cool, but nobody's really maintaining it :P |
| 04:30.08 | numist | ToyKeeper: .... :o |
| 04:30.19 | numist | scanlime: you should usurp it and be the maintainer :D |
| 04:30.27 | ToyKeeper | I was disappointed... didn't get to spout the number. :) |
| 04:30.57 | numist | ToyKeeper: I know.. Id have the same disappointment |
| 04:31.21 | ToyKeeper | scanlime: If people understood the potential of unionfs, the project would probably become very successful. :) |
| 04:31.43 | darth_mall | oh jesus |
| 04:31.52 | darth_mall | I didn't even install windows and it stomped on my MBR |
| 04:31.59 | ToyKeeper | Fail! |
| 04:32.12 | purple_cow | hehehe |
| 04:33.00 | darth_mall | not my day |
| 04:33.14 | darth_mall | I guess the one good thing is that I totally understood what Hal told me today |
| 04:33.36 | ToyKeeper | I can't wait until people figure out what you can do with reiser4 + unionfs... it completely removes the need for things like gconf, or elektra ( http://elektra.sourceforge.net/ ). |
| 04:36.04 | ToyKeeper | Now I just need someone to give me $100M so I can finish unionfs, get reiser4 into the kernel, and pay for all the PR necessary to make it actually happen. :) |
| 04:37.31 | darth_mall | scanlime: did you run the Linksys tools on your nslu2's before reflashing, or did you just plug them into the network and reflash? |
| 04:38.22 | scanlime | I don't think I did a thing with the existing firmware |
| 04:38.36 | scanlime | just straight into redboot |
| 04:38.39 | darth_mall | ok |
| 04:38.47 | pagefault | that new tim burton movie looks cool |
| 04:38.56 | darth_mall | pagefault: Corpse Bride? |
| 04:38.57 | pagefault | with the animation |
| 04:38.58 | pagefault | yeah |
| 04:39.17 | nullpuppy | s/animation/claymation/ |
| 04:39.24 | numist | whens that coming out? |
| 04:39.29 | darth_mall | nullpuppy: claymation is, in fact, a type of animation |
| 04:39.34 | darth_mall | properly known as stop-action |
| 04:39.46 | scanlime | darth_mall: I forgot you could do that without a serial console.. I usually end up ^C'ing the normal boot then typing 'upgrade' at the redboot console :) |
| 04:39.47 | nullpuppy | yeah, so? :) |
| 04:40.00 | darth_mall | scanlime: hehe |
| 04:40.01 | scanlime | darth_mall: if you're looking for a simple electronics project, a serial port for the NSLU2 is easy and worthwhile |
| 04:40.25 | darth_mall | yeah, the nslu2-linux site has instructions on putting it into upgrade mode, and a tool for reflashing |
| 04:41.01 | ToyKeeper | s/claymation/animation/... it's rendered. :) |
| 04:41.01 | darth_mall | scanlime: I'm so frustrated today that all I really want is for it to work |
| 04:41.03 | scanlime | right, upslug |
| 04:41.26 | darth_mall | normally I'd be intrigued by the idea of a serial port for the nslu2 |
| 04:41.48 | scanlime | nod |
| 04:59.50 | darth_mall | grr |
| 04:59.56 | darth_mall | now I can't log in to my nslu2 |
| 05:00.50 | darth_mall | oh man that was cheating |
| 05:00.56 | scanlime | heh |
| 05:00.57 | darth_mall | hehe |
| 05:01.53 | purple_cow | that's cheating? |
| 05:01.59 | darth_mall | well, not really |
| 05:02.14 | darth_mall | it seems a very imprecise method |
| 05:02.25 | purple_cow | that it is |
| 05:04.49 | darth_mall | what are you watching? The Crow? |
| 05:04.54 | purple_cow | yeah |
| 05:04.57 | darth_mall | good film |
| 05:05.04 | darth_mall | hmm |
| 05:05.07 | purple_cow | yep. i haven't seen it in about 10 years... |
| 05:05.07 | darth_mall | what to call my nslu2 |
| 05:05.13 | ToyKeeper | Hmm. At a guess, I'd say that's when he accepts death. |
| 05:05.20 | ToyKeeper | darth_mall: slug |
| 05:05.23 | ToyKeeper | I dunno. |
| 05:05.25 | nullpuppy | tehslug |
| 05:06.55 | ToyKeeper | asdf? |
| 05:11.39 | darth_mall | yay! got the nslu2 up |
| 05:12.05 | darth_mall | now I need to figure out how to install things and if there are packages for all the things I want |
| 05:12.55 | lurgy | hMmm |
| 05:13.04 | lurgy | i reckon it's time for bed |
| 05:13.07 | lurgy | g'night everybody |
| 05:18.32 | darth_mall | hrm |
| 05:19.21 | file[laptop] | nini folks |
| 05:23.38 | scanlime | I haven't used unslung, but check for a debian-style /etc/network/interfaces maybe? |
| 05:25.16 | darth_mall | I actually went with openslug, not unslung |
| 05:25.20 | scanlime | ah |
| 05:25.27 | scanlime | then you want 'turnup init' |
| 05:25.33 | darth_mall | k |
| 05:25.34 | darth_mall | that's what I did |
| 05:25.40 | darth_mall | it's rebooting, we'll see if this fixes it |
| 05:26.01 | scanlime | I ran into a problem about the network driver being really picky about netmasks |
| 05:26.02 | darth_mall | then I can start looking for fun packages and figure out how to make http requests to lorien.navi.cx go to my nslu2 |
| 05:26.21 | scanlime | you're using a wrt54g, right? it has port forwarding |
| 05:26.41 | scanlime | you might need to upgrade the wrt54g's firmware, mine came with a super-old version that crashed a lot and was pretty feature-lacking |
| 05:26.48 | darth_mall | yay! I fixed it |
| 05:27.09 | darth_mall | scanlime: I don't have to do anything to our modem as well? just the router? |
| 05:27.16 | scanlime | should be |
| 05:27.30 | scanlime | the modem is a network bridge, shouldn't do any routing or NAT... usually |
| 05:27.54 | darth_mall | neat |
| 05:27.59 | darth_mall | that makes my life a lot easier |
| 05:28.20 | purple_cow | depends on the modem :P |
| 05:28.30 | purple_cow | darth_mall: i think your modem is a router too :P |
| 05:28.39 | darth_mall | I think so too |
| 05:28.49 | darth_mall | hmmm |
| 05:29.03 | scanlime | darth_mall: there's thttpd |
| 05:29.09 | darth_mall | but according to the nslu2-linux website if I install PHP it'll install apache |
| 05:29.23 | scanlime | hmm |
| 05:29.41 | scanlime | but you'll want svn eventually right? you might just want to start building openslug yourself, so you can get more packages |
| 05:30.17 | purple_cow | bad firefox! go to your room! |
| 05:30.45 | darth_mall | scanlime: I have to build openslug myself to get more packages? |
| 05:35.26 | scanlime | no... |
| 05:35.42 | scanlime | it should be set up with an ipkg feed already |
| 05:35.50 | purple_cow | or yes! |
| 05:35.59 | scanlime | but AFAIK there's a lot of stuff in OpenEmbedded that hasn't been built in that feed.. not sure why |
| 05:36.38 | darth_mall | I'm sorry, I misspoke. I meant: I have to build openslug from source to get packages that aren't already in the feed? |
| 05:36.58 | scanlime | I think so. If you find out differently let me know :) |
| 05:37.01 | darth_mall | ok |
| 05:37.03 | scanlime | might be worth asking in #nslu2-general |
| 05:38.44 | purple_cow | goddamnit |
| 05:38.59 | purple_cow | portage wants to install evolution-exchange, which pulls in kerberos and openldap |
| 05:39.16 | darth_mall | ewww |
| 05:40.36 | scanlime | and you probably wouldn't care if you were using binary packages ;) |
| 05:41.50 | purple_cow | i would probably have given up long ago if i were using binary packages :P |
| 05:42.10 | scanlime | hah |
| 05:42.13 | purple_cow | and quit school to follow my dream of becoming a trapeze artist |
| 05:42.28 | scanlime | I definitely don't miss "emerge -U world" now that I'm on ubuntu |
| 05:43.11 | scanlime | yeah, I do miss USE flags |
| 05:43.25 | scanlime | but not enough to make me patient enough to compile everything |
| 05:43.39 | purple_cow | i can usually only work with binary distributions for about a week or two before i run into one of those |
| 05:43.59 | purple_cow | at which point i have the choice between compiling things by hand or becoming a trapeze artist |
| 05:44.20 | scanlime | sigh.. speaking of distro annoyances |
| 05:44.23 | scanlime | ubuntu is missing makeinfo |
| 05:45.42 | darth_mall | mmm |
| 05:45.43 | darth_mall | trapeze |
| 05:51.30 | purple_cow | i would have expected an "exchange" USE flag or somesuch, but i suppose i *am* using a masked gnome, so whatever |
| 05:52.58 | scanlime | purple_cow: it would be so much nicer if USE was unnecessary because most software used runtime dependency checking by default :( |
| 05:55.50 | scanlime | darth_mall: hm. another option for lots-o-packages is to use ARM debian |
| 05:56.57 | purple_cow | scanlime: yeah |
| 05:57.08 | purple_cow | huh. i didn't know that brandon lee died while filming the crow... |
| 05:58.04 | nullpuppy | really? I thought everyone knew that |
| 05:58.31 | darth_mall | it's sad |
| 05:59.25 | scanlime | oh. my memory's going all fuzzy |
| 05:59.30 | scanlime | they were playing goldfrapp on Saturday, not air |
| 05:59.42 | scanlime | Strict Machine |
| 06:00.09 | darth_mall | ugh |
| 06:00.18 | scanlime | eep |
| 06:00.25 | scanlime | beep started up with this ugly debian theme |
| 06:00.59 | numist | yeah... dont know what was going through their heads |
| 06:02.27 | scanlime | darth_mall: you might try browsing through http://ipkg.nslu2-linux.org/feeds |
| 06:02.42 | scanlime | I'm not sure how reliable it is to install ipks from other distros.. I'm about to try installing samba from the optware feed :) |
| 06:03.12 | purple_cow | it'll probably work at least as well as installing an mdk cooker RPM on redhat 5... |
| 06:03.19 | purple_cow | ;) |
| 06:03.32 | purple_cow | (which i'm sure most of the people here have done) |
| 06:03.53 | scanlime | =) |
| 06:03.57 | scanlime | yep |
| 06:04.02 | numist | sleeptime |
| 06:04.31 | scanlime | damnit... |
| 06:04.44 | scanlime | ipkg decided to download the 15MB ipk directly to the ramdisk |
| 06:04.51 | scanlime | smart move there, ipkg |
| 06:08.02 | darth_mall | hrm |
| 06:08.21 | scanlime | http://www.somethingawful.com/articles.php?a=2987 |
| 06:09.41 | ChipX86 | I suck so bad at bzflag |
| 06:10.26 | ChipX86 | hah |
| 06:10.26 | ChipX86 | http://www.komotv.com/stories/38802.htm |
| 06:12.30 | nullpuppy | hehe |
| 06:23.30 | *** join/#tacobeam lal1 (n=lalo@61.49.239.95) |
| 06:24.25 | darth_mall | alright |
| 06:24.27 | darth_mall | I unbroke the internet |
| 06:24.30 | ChipX86 | yay |
| 06:24.52 | lalo|home | darth_mall: thanks! I can't live without internet |
| 06:25.04 | scanlime | ooh.. I need hot chocolate |
| 06:25.30 | purple_cow | oh good, it was lalo saying that |
| 06:25.42 | purple_cow | for a moment i thought it was file, and i was about to be scared that i was about to say something similar |
| 06:25.49 | scanlime | hah |
| 06:26.12 | scanlime | darth_mall: so far so good on installing ipks from the optware feed in openslug |
| 06:26.22 | lalo|home | geez. We have to throw a party one of these days... "5 years of picking on file" |
| 06:26.31 | darth_mall | scanlime: neat |
| 06:26.49 | scanlime | I'm trying to set it up as a samba server, since that seems somewhat less likely to make unionfs crash than NFS |
| 06:27.04 | ChipX86 | silly samba not doing symlinks :/ |
| 06:27.10 | scanlime | I don't need symlinks |
| 06:27.21 | scanlime | this is just a bunch of movies and audio |
| 06:27.22 | darth_mall | so that lorien.navi.cx doesn't take you directly to my modem's config page |
| 06:27.54 | purple_cow | scanlime: you could write a userspace nfs daemon to read from unionfs ;-) |
| 06:28.06 | scanlime | purple_cow: what a great idea! |
| 06:28.18 | scanlime | purple_cow: by then I might have openslug half-compiled... |
| 06:28.37 | scanlime | I'm still curious to try the latest svn or cvs or whatever of unionfs |
| 06:28.40 | ChipX86 | there are two apps that really need proper dual-head support. BZFlag and VMware.. |
| 06:29.00 | nullpuppy | :) |
| 06:29.09 | purple_cow | bzflag with 2 heads is kind of weird |
| 06:29.11 | purple_cow | it supports 3 nicely |
| 06:29.22 | ChipX86 | I mean it needs to go fullscreen on one and leave the other alone |
| 06:29.26 | scanlime | what does it do with 2? one screen for the radar? :) |
| 06:29.35 | ChipX86 | hey that'd be awesome! |
| 06:29.40 | scanlime | haha |
| 06:29.43 | ChipX86 | oohh |
| 06:29.45 | purple_cow | ChipX86: oh |
| 06:29.46 | ChipX86 | or a view of behind you |
| 06:30.10 | scanlime | does bzflag use SDL by default these days? |
| 06:30.11 | purple_cow | teehee. 1.8 had a rear-view mirror :) |
| 06:30.16 | ChipX86 | awesome |
| 06:30.22 | ChipX86 | this must be brought back and it must be dual-head-aware |
| 06:30.39 | purple_cow | scanlime: bzflag has had sdl support for quite some time. i think it uses it if it can |
| 06:32.38 | scanlime | SDL is pretty good about multihead usually |
| 06:33.19 | scanlime | eww |
| 06:33.23 | scanlime | darth_mall: these ipks install into /opt :( |
| 06:34.07 | ChipX86 | /opt is the unwanted bastard child of the unix filesystem hierarchy |
| 06:34.35 | purple_cow | at least you don't have a /opt4 |
| 06:34.41 | ChipX86 | *shudder8 |
| 06:41.18 | purple_cow | of course, if you did, you'd be using HP-UX, which is even worse ;) |
| 06:45.46 | scanlime | oh |
| 06:45.51 | scanlime | nfsd already crashed unionfs... |
| 06:49.13 | scanlime | haha |
| 06:49.18 | scanlime | it's so cute when I mount all the disks |
| 06:49.27 | scanlime | red activity lights walk up the tower :) |
| 06:50.00 | scanlime | ugh |
| 06:50.07 | scanlime | and I get the exact same oops from smbd |
| 06:54.07 | ChipX86 | seems it's not too hard to get root access on the terastation. You just have to build your own firmware, which looks to be very easy |
| 06:55.02 | scanlime | whoa |
| 06:55.11 | scanlime | darth_mall: your modem is sending me malformed ICMP replies |
| 06:55.27 | scanlime | nmap is hex dumping them at me :P |
| 06:56.00 | scanlime | purple_cow: I found at least one other person complaining about the same oops, and I don't think that was on arm |
| 06:56.23 | scanlime | it's really odd.. happens the exact same way to nfs and smbd |
| 06:56.29 | scanlime | but I can't trigger it with normal shell usage |
| 06:58.09 | darth_mall | oh my god I hate this modem |
| 06:58.11 | scanlime | All 1663 scanned ports on 71.33.254.148 are: filtered |
| 06:58.11 | scanlime | Too many fingerprints match this host to give specific OS details |
| 06:59.03 | darth_mall | arg! |
| 06:59.04 | darth_mall | wtf |
| 06:59.13 | scanlime | ChipX86: how good is the cooling on the terastation? |
| 06:59.31 | ChipX86 | seems fine. It's never hot or anything |
| 06:59.36 | scanlime | darth_mall: cable or DSL? |
| 06:59.40 | darth_mall | dsl |
| 06:59.56 | darth_mall | it is |
| 06:59.57 | ChipX86 | tempted to try the firmware update thing |
| 07:00.04 | ChipX86 | my firmware is outdated anyway, and the new one is apparently a lot faster |
| 07:00.08 | scanlime | ChipX86: I've got a JTAG dongle if you screw it up ;) |
| 07:00.16 | ChipX86 | what does that do? |
| 07:00.40 | scanlime | JTAG is a debug/programming interface implemented in hardware on most embedded microprocessors |
| 07:00.55 | scanlime | it's how you program the flash memory if everything (including the bootloader) is toast |
| 07:00.57 | ChipX86 | and how would I connect it to it? |
| 07:00.58 | ChipX86 | ah |
| 07:00.59 | ChipX86 | fun |
| 07:01.26 | scanlime | most boards have pads for a JTAG header, but no connector |
| 07:01.32 | scanlime | so you'd have to solder a connector to the board... |
| 07:01.35 | scanlime | and the pinout isn't always the same |
| 07:01.37 | ChipX86 | eep |
| 07:01.39 | ChipX86 | no thanks |
| 07:01.48 | scanlime | there's a kinda-standard, but a lot of people do their own thing |
| 07:02.13 | purple_cow | gotta love actiontec! |
| 07:02.14 | scanlime | ChipX86: it's a lot better than having a $1000 brick if you overwrite the bootloader :) |
| 07:02.20 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 07:02.28 | darth_mall | it should be forwarding port 80 to my nslu2 |
| 07:02.41 | darth_mall | can anyone see anything at http://lorien.navi.cx |
| 07:02.52 | scanlime | still filtered |
| 07:02.54 | darth_mall | bah |
| 07:02.57 | darth_mall | fucking modem |
| 07:03.06 | darth_mall | that's why I forwarded that port! |
| 07:03.07 | darth_mall | grr |
| 07:03.08 | scanlime | at least smb can span filesystems... |
| 07:04.05 | scanlime | definitely more storage than I've ever had on an ARM machine, if you don't count NFS mounts |
| 07:06.30 | scanlime | http://www.winischhofer.at/linuxsisusbvga.shtml#download |
| 07:06.45 | scanlime | so this guy wrote linux drivers for a particular USB video chipset- which is damn sexy |
| 07:06.57 | scanlime | but when he asks for donations, he gives out bank routing and account numbers |
| 07:07.13 | ChipX86 | smart |
| 07:07.15 | scanlime | I hope banks in austria work differently than they do in the US, because here at least that's a really really dumb thing to do... |
| 07:09.18 | purple_cow | i think most overseas banks verify any wire withdrawls |
| 07:10.04 | scanlime | hmm |
| 07:10.15 | purple_cow | it's probably still a stupid thing to do |
| 07:10.25 | scanlime | this looks like they just stuck kind of an ad-hoc USB2 to PCI bridge onto a stock SiS video chip |
| 07:10.58 | purple_cow | funky |
| 07:11.00 | scanlime | there are packets you can send to read/write/copy memory mapped I/O ranges and such |
| 07:11.14 | darth_mall | ok |
| 07:11.18 | darth_mall | so why is that when I disable NAT on my modem I can no longer resolve names like google? |
| 07:11.25 | scanlime | I was really excited by the possibility of Xv.. but the guy who wrote this couldn't make Xv work on the adaptor he had |
| 07:12.06 | scanlime | darth_mall: you might want to try connecting your computer directly to the modem to make sure it's doing what you expect.. it should be giving you an externally-routable IP, your gateway should be set to something at your ISP that you can route through, and you should have working DNS servers |
| 07:12.18 | scanlime | darth_mall: once you have that, connect your wrt54g and make it release/renew its address |
| 07:12.34 | scanlime | oh? |
| 07:12.40 | scanlime | if you turn off NAT it doesn't bridge? |
| 07:13.17 | purple_cow | qwest uses pppoa, which is different than rfc1483 bridging |
| 07:13.28 | scanlime | ah |
| 07:13.28 | darth_mall | we're connecting with the modem in PPPoE |
| 07:13.42 | scanlime | ooh.. big blocks of uncommented magical numbers being shoved into the device |
| 07:13.52 | purple_cow | darth_mall: uhm, really? that sucks ;) |
| 07:13.53 | darth_mall | it won't connect in PPPoA |
| 07:14.03 | scanlime | wonder if video overlays work with this thing's windows drivers |
| 07:14.26 | scanlime | awfully tempting to buy one and find out.. but then the only real use I'd have for it is a set-top-box, and I doubt an NSLU2 is anywhere near fast enough |
| 07:14.54 | scanlime | if I want a non-PC as a HTPC, I'd rather get one of those DLNA-compatible boxes |
| 07:15.05 | scanlime | turns out there are already some nice open source media servers for those |
| 07:15.26 | scanlime | but the codecs you can use are dependent on the hardware, since I don't think the servers can do on-the-fly transcoding yet |
| 07:15.45 | purple_cow | darth_mall: so we need to advertise ourselves tomorrow |
| 07:15.50 | scanlime | Intel was actually using on-the-fly DLNA media transcoding as a demo for their dual core processors at IDF |
| 07:16.55 | darth_mall | arg |
| 07:16.57 | darth_mall | I do not understand networks well enough to be doing this |
| 07:17.44 | ChipX86 | ok, this is supported firmware. All I've done is add admin to the sudoers file and install an ssh binary and init script. It should work without any problems at all |
| 07:18.00 | ChipX86 | that being said, who wants to place bets? |
| 07:18.22 | darth_mall | purple_cow: if I can't figure it out, that would be nice |
| 07:18.25 | scanlime | heh |
| 07:18.30 | scanlime | my nslu2 is running warmer than my disks :) |
| 07:18.31 | scanlime | yay 120mm fans |
| 07:18.38 | darth_mall | I'm going to bed |
| 07:18.42 | darth_mall | g'night kids, thanks for the help |
| 07:18.46 | scanlime | g'night darth_mall.. good luck |
| 07:18.47 | ChipX86 | what I hate is how this thing resets its ip.. |
| 07:18.50 | ChipX86 | g'night darth_mall |
| 07:19.16 | ChipX86 | ooh but I can modify etc/network/interfaces |
| 07:20.47 | ChipX86 | you know.. if I brick it, at least I have the drives |
| 07:21.15 | scanlime | hehe |
| 07:21.20 | ChipX86 | but again, supported firmware, nothing changed that could ruin this |
| 07:21.31 | ChipX86 | I hate this stuff :) |
| 07:21.31 | scanlime | what kind of bootloader does the terastation have? |
| 07:21.44 | ChipX86 | dunno. I didn't change any of that stuff though |
| 07:22.01 | scanlime | right, I'm just curious how easy it is to recover if you have to flash new firmware on a non-working system |
| 07:22.21 | ChipX86 | I didn't see that info anywhere |
| 07:22.26 | ChipX86 | but I wasn't really looking |
| 07:22.52 | ChipX86 | the boot loader part hasn't been touched though. Just the disk image part, with a sudoers file and an init script for a known working ssh server (you |
| 07:23.00 | ChipX86 | (you just download the tarball, unzip into the firmware dir, and repackage) |
| 07:23.23 | ChipX86 | it *should* work with absolutely no problems. |
| 07:23.25 | scanlime | sigh.. |
| 07:23.29 | scanlime | that's not what I'm talking about |
| 07:24.02 | scanlime | if you break the kernel or userland, you need the bootloader to recover. Breaking the bootloader is a separate problem that means you need JTAG to recover. |
| 07:24.35 | ChipX86 | nod. And I don't know what bootloader it's using |
| 07:27.31 | scanlime | this should be an interesting week at work |
| 07:28.40 | scanlime | Chris and I are mostly agreeing on things again, the 5th iteration of my first little project is *hopefully* the last, I'm finally getting my hands dirty with these windows drivers.. and I've got a really insane reverse engineering project for any free time I end up with ;) |
| 07:31.14 | scanlime | mm |
| 07:31.28 | scanlime | yay for watching stuff off my slug+diskbox again.. if only unionfs worked |
| 07:31.43 | scanlime | can't wait for working unionfs, organized media, and a good HDTV + speakers setup |
| 07:34.19 | purple_cow | tannoy reveal? ^^ |
| 07:34.58 | scanlime | wowie |
| 07:36.09 | scanlime | $700 per speaker? |
| 07:36.36 | scanlime | oh, the less fancy ones are only $150 per speaker :P |
| 07:36.44 | scanlime | that's not so super bad actually... |
| 07:37.03 | purple_cow | the $700 ones are active monitors |
| 07:37.07 | scanlime | yeah |
| 07:37.17 | *** join/#tacobeam ChipX86 (n=chipx86@galago/ChipX86) |
| 07:37.18 | purple_cow | reciever & amp built into the speaker |
| 07:38.54 | scanlime | I'm definitely going to have to shop for audio-stuff at real musical and studio supply stores |
| 07:39.07 | scanlime | I'm so sick of aisles and aisles of 200 watt and 500 watt stereos :P |
| 07:39.20 | purple_cow | hehehe |
| 07:39.33 | ChipX86 | yay |
| 07:39.35 | ChipX86 | I can mount my media still! |
| 07:40.05 | ChipX86 | admin@OLYMPUS:~$ |
| 07:40.05 | purple_cow | gotta love speaker power measured in watts RMS |
| 07:40.08 | ChipX86 | god that was easy |
| 07:40.11 | scanlime | http://www.americanmusical.com/item--i-AUR-MOPAD-------.html |
| 07:40.21 | scanlime | those or something similar could be handy |
| 07:40.38 | ChipX86 | ok, now to get my hands and arms to stop shaking |
| 07:40.44 | scanlime | the old JVC speakers I used in high school would resonate like crazy.. I ended up with a solution based on duct tape and antistatic foam |
| 07:40.50 | purple_cow | scanlime: cool |
| 07:41.06 | scanlime | :) |
| 07:41.09 | ChipX86 | the linkstation is so cute when it boots |
| 07:41.13 | ChipX86 | er, terastation |
| 07:41.22 | ChipX86 | scanlime: I want to see your setup boot :) |
| 07:41.35 | ChipX86 | do you have pics of warzok? |
| 07:41.41 | scanlime | hmm |
| 07:41.43 | scanlime | no |
| 07:41.46 | scanlime | I could take one now |
| 07:41.51 | purple_cow | scanlime: we should make a trip to listenup when you're here :) |
| 07:41.53 | purple_cow | you'll love it |
| 07:42.03 | ChipX86 | man I can't believe it worked. Well I can, but yay! |
| 07:42.35 | scanlime | =) |
| 07:42.43 | ChipX86 | hmm, so 14MB of space to play in, 128MB of RAM |
| 07:43.20 | ChipX86 | some guy installed gentoo on his terastation. Psycho. |
| 07:45.37 | scanlime | grrr |
| 07:45.44 | scanlime | enough battery to take the pictures, but not to download them? |
| 07:45.52 | ChipX86 | :( |
| 07:47.07 | scanlime | http://www.americanmusical.com/item--i-BEH-B2031A.html |
| 07:47.26 | scanlime | I wonder what 'balanced inputs' are, and what kind of analog-goo I'd need to hook that up to a regular sound card |
| 07:49.12 | scanlime | oh |
| 07:49.14 | scanlime | isolated grounds |
| 07:49.36 | scanlime | and two signal wires |
| 07:49.40 | scanlime | it's like twisted-pair for audio :) |
| 07:50.01 | purple_cow | yep, pretty much |
| 07:50.06 | purple_cow | probably XLR? |
| 07:50.54 | scanlime | would be nice to find a separate amplifier that has optical input |
| 07:51.25 | scanlime | though I doubt it matters that much- your setup did fine with all-homemade cabling and a normal sound card in a noisy PC :) |
| 07:53.53 | purple_cow | yeah. i can hear interference if i turn everything up as loud as possible, but even then i have to have my head right by the speaker |
| 07:54.41 | scanlime | :) |
| 07:55.35 | purple_cow | scanlime: http://www.mackie.com/products/hr824/index.html |
| 07:55.39 | purple_cow | now *those* are speakers :D |
| 07:56.13 | scanlime | wowie |
| 07:56.35 | scanlime | =D |
| 07:57.20 | scanlime | I just need higher quality ears now... |
| 07:57.22 | scanlime | and I'll be all set |
| 07:57.27 | purple_cow | hehe |
| 07:57.48 | ChipX86 | Subject: made from Cactus, Scotty? |
| 07:57.58 | scanlime | http://zero.navi.cx/gallery/navi-usb |
| 07:57.59 | scanlime | updated |
| 07:58.01 | ChipX86 | spam sometimes makes me chuckle |
| 07:58.22 | ChipX86 | scanlime: neat :) |
| 07:58.57 | scanlime | oop, no pictures of the bottom side of warzok |
| 07:59.10 | scanlime | there's a rather large hole right where the FCC warning usually is.. for a serial cable ;) |
| 07:59.24 | purple_cow | scanlime: cute |
| 07:59.32 | scanlime | yup |
| 07:59.42 | scanlime | I'm probably going to end up putting it in a corner of my living room.. |
| 07:59.52 | scanlime | it'd be cute in the closet, but the cabling would be so long and ugly it wouldn't be worth it |
| 08:00.13 | scanlime | also can't get quite all the marker goop off the front |
| 08:00.26 | scanlime | might have to pick up some stronger chemicals next time I'm at the hardware store |
| 08:01.55 | scanlime | acetone! |
| 08:02.01 | scanlime | works on anything! |
| 08:02.02 | purple_cow | it seems like there was a lot of touching and not a lot of washing going on over the last year or 5 |
| 08:02.24 | scanlime | ok.. time to get some sleep while openslug keeps compiling |
| 08:02.44 | scanlime | then I'll finally have a kernel source tree and a cross-compile environment to try the latest unionfs in |
| 08:02.52 | scanlime | and if it still doesn't work.. guess I get to do some debugging |
| 08:03.26 | scanlime | purple_cow: how much are those HR824s? |
| 08:04.33 | purple_cow | looks like $630 each |
| 08:04.47 | scanlime | wow, cheaper than I expected |
| 08:04.54 | scanlime | the photo makes them look really giant |
| 08:05.30 | scanlime | http://www.mackie.com/products/hr824/Waves_Guides_Treble.html |
| 08:05.31 | scanlime | wow :) |
| 08:05.52 | purple_cow | http://www.mackie.com/products/hr824/Specifications.html <- size |
| 08:06.29 | purple_cow | scanlime: cool |
| 08:06.32 | scanlime | I doubt anything you build in the college EE program has a frequency response as flat as this speaker |
| 08:06.52 | scanlime | :P |
| 08:06.55 | purple_cow | scanlime: there are probably 3 companies in the world that can design something like that :P |
| 08:07.06 | scanlime | hehe |
| 08:07.27 | ChipX86 | http://primates.ximian.com/~federico/news-photos/2005-08-5236-caterpillar.jpg |
| 08:07.29 | ChipX86 | I want one of those |
| 08:08.21 | scanlime | so cute! |
| 08:09.57 | purple_cow | mackie and alesis are the only 2 companies i can think of with monitors that precise |
| 08:11.01 | purple_cow | tannoy's precision line is close (+- 3db), but no cigar |
| 08:11.44 | scanlime | I'd like to see the kind of test equipment they need to calibrate those things |
| 08:12.11 | scanlime | sigh.. |
| 08:12.29 | scanlime | even after going totally overboard with my loan payments this month, I have $4k in the bank |
| 08:12.33 | scanlime | and I get paid again in a couple days |
| 08:12.39 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 08:13.03 | scanlime | I paid about $1k toward my student loan and $1.1k toward my car |
| 08:13.03 | ChipX86 | isn't it nice? |
| 08:13.34 | scanlime | dunno.. I'm trying to avoid spending big $ on anything other than rent and loans :P |
| 08:13.46 | ChipX86 | nod |
| 08:13.47 | scanlime | I know I want to get a TV, but I'm trying to wait on that |
| 08:14.11 | scanlime | the coffee table was only $150... book shelf was maybe $25 |
| 08:14.16 | scanlime | furniture hasn't been a budget breaker for me yet ;) |
| 08:14.48 | scanlime | heh. took about $2 in epoxy and zip ties to put my bowl chair back into service |
| 08:15.00 | scanlime | would have done that long ago if we didn't have such a cramped living room already |
| 08:15.59 | scanlime | =D |
| 08:16.02 | purple_cow | even though the speakers aren't really mine... |
| 08:16.35 | scanlime | my main criteria for a TV is that it has a DVI input ;) |
| 08:17.02 | scanlime | I should have just left those s-video adaptors with you.. my current TV doesn't have s-video, and I won't need them when I have DVI |
| 08:17.24 | purple_cow | flat-screen TVs seem to weigh about twice as much as a curved equivalent |
| 08:17.29 | scanlime | :( |
| 08:17.32 | purple_cow | and i think that weight is entirely glass |
| 08:17.36 | scanlime | yeah |
| 08:17.52 | purple_cow | scanlime: i've got 2 svideo adaptors, and my new TV has svideo input |
| 08:18.12 | scanlime | ah. did you find some, or did you end up buying them? |
| 08:19.01 | purple_cow | i bought one, then when i was moving i found that fembot's video card came with one :P |
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| 08:19.19 | scanlime | ah |
| 08:19.35 | scanlime | whoa |
| 08:19.43 | scanlime | http://www.americanmusical.com/item--i-BEH-EP1500.html |
| 08:19.54 | scanlime | no idea about the quality, but at 2 ohms... |
| 08:20.01 | scanlime | I could drive a mighty big electromagnet with that |
| 08:20.05 | scanlime | maybe levitate something |
| 08:20.06 | scanlime | :P |
| 08:23.43 | purple_cow | wow, 1400 watts? |
| 08:24.45 | purple_cow | behringer generally makes good stuff |
| 08:25.04 | scanlime | well, most of the amps here are designed for high-power not studio use |
| 08:25.24 | scanlime | I imagine in a real recording studio the amp is built-in to something else, like the mixer console... |
| 08:27.04 | purple_cow | yeah |
| 08:27.20 | purple_cow | the highest i'd go for a home installation would be about 200W |
| 08:27.35 | purple_cow | most real recording studios use active monitors |
| 08:27.39 | purple_cow | so the amp is in the speaker |
| 08:27.40 | scanlime | nod |
| 08:28.05 | scanlime | actually, those JVC speakers I mentioned and the 20 watt amp.. my parents are still using that as their living room setup |
| 08:28.13 | scanlime | was quite an upgrade from the TV's built-in speakers |
| 08:28.17 | purple_cow | the amp i have is 150W (75 per channel) and we never went anywhere near full power |
| 08:28.22 | scanlime | yeah |
| 08:28.30 | purple_cow | damnit |
| 08:28.37 | purple_cow | i think some drunk students got into the mackie bell tower |
| 08:28.38 | scanlime | I think the only use I have for a 1500 watt amp would be driving mag-lev train experiments :P |
| 08:29.17 | scanlime | no drunk college students here :) |
| 08:29.27 | scanlime | but I have plenty of low-flying aircraft, car alarms, and trains... |
| 08:29.34 | ChipX86 | yay, the terastation has wget built-in |
| 08:29.38 | scanlime | well, not trains at my apartment |
| 08:29.44 | scanlime | but aircraft and car alarms definitely |
| 08:29.50 | scanlime | and young kids making lots of noise |
| 08:30.04 | scanlime | ChipX86: install debian ;) |
| 08:30.08 | ChipX86 | no :P |
| 08:30.13 | ChipX86 | but I'm getting some deb packages |
| 08:30.16 | purple_cow | ah, the bells stopped |
| 08:30.19 | purple_cow | maybe they got arrested |
| 08:31.00 | scanlime | mm. must keep planning this home theater setup for a while |
| 08:31.16 | scanlime | got a vauge idea of what TV and speakers I want now.. still no clue about HTPC, other than how I'd like it to be mi6k-friendly |
| 08:31.32 | purple_cow | we'll know by friday whether or not you need an HTPC with a real video card ;) |
| 08:31.50 | scanlime | I'll have less use for the uvswitch.. either I'll have it switching video game systems directly into the TV's composite input, or I'll put everything through a tuner card. I'll have to see how that looks over DVI |
| 08:32.01 | scanlime | by friday? |
| 08:32.18 | purple_cow | that's when project selections are finalized |
| 08:32.23 | scanlime | yay :) |
| 08:32.39 | scanlime | well, I have lots of options at this point |
| 08:32.53 | scanlime | at the very low end on the customizability scale there's a hardware set-top-box with DLNA support |
| 08:33.11 | scanlime | there's a NSLU2 or other embedded box with a VGA adaptor.. but I doubt that would work at all, let alone well |
| 08:33.35 | scanlime | could just use a desktop PC, maybe diskless with a really slow fan |
| 08:33.52 | scanlime | or maybe something small, like a mac mini or a mini-ITX |
| 08:34.00 | scanlime | I kind of like the desktop + quietness idea |
| 08:34.09 | scanlime | by far the best power and customizability for the price |
| 08:34.23 | purple_cow | i wish my setup was quieter |
| 08:34.26 | scanlime | I'm not sure a mini-ITX or mac mini could drive an HDTV and decode everything full-speed |
| 08:34.33 | scanlime | what's the big noisy bit in yours? |
| 08:34.54 | scanlime | if it's the disks, it would be trivial for you to get an NSLU2 and pull of the same setup I have for disks |
| 08:35.00 | scanlime | s/of/off/ |
| 08:35.24 | purple_cow | both disks and fans |
| 08:35.52 | scanlime | which fans? this 120mm I'm using is amazing |
| 08:36.12 | scanlime | my power supply fan was a really small and loud one.. 75mm maybe? anyway, it quieted way down running on 5v |
| 08:36.14 | purple_cow | there are 3 fans total in fembot and 1 for the disks |
| 08:36.31 | scanlime | I'd recommend putting in larger fans where possible, and sticking temperature controllers on the rest |
| 08:36.34 | scanlime | run them as slow as you can |
| 08:37.46 | purple_cow | i can't really put larger fans anywhere |
| 08:37.55 | purple_cow | well, maybe on the disks, but that's already the quietest fan |
| 08:38.03 | scanlime | there's always the completely silent option.. |
| 08:38.16 | purple_cow | i think the fans in fembot are already temperature controlled, but it's possible they're not |
| 08:38.16 | scanlime | get really long USB, video, and audio cables, then find an out of the way closet for fembot :) |
| 08:38.35 | purple_cow | the only closet in my apartment is in my bedroom |
| 08:38.39 | scanlime | oh |
| 08:38.47 | purple_cow | which is about as far from the TV as possible ;) |
| 08:38.54 | scanlime | kitchen cabinet? :) |
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| 08:39.16 | purple_cow | heh. except for my two cabinets of holding, i don't have much cabinet space |
| 08:39.19 | purple_cow | it's not really a big deal |
| 08:39.22 | scanlime | with the weather here being how it is, I'd almost say I could put a server rack on my porch |
| 08:39.32 | scanlime | I have power out there |
| 08:39.33 | purple_cow | fembot is off when i'm not using it, and when i am, the noise from the machine is easily drowned out |
| 08:40.01 | scanlime | need lights on my porch.. saw a couple other apartments here with christmas lights out there |
| 08:40.51 | purple_cow | http://zero.navi.cx/gallery/davids-new-apt-2005/IMG_0003 |
| 08:40.56 | purple_cow | there's one of my cabinets of holding |
| 08:41.17 | purple_cow | by the dishwasher - tiny little door, but the cabinet actually extends all the way back to the end of the counter |
| 08:41.53 | scanlime | ooh, neat |
| 08:41.56 | scanlime | that would be a great place for a server |
| 08:42.03 | scanlime | and you'd get a heated countertop over that spot |
| 08:42.47 | purple_cow | heh, no thanks |
| 08:42.56 | purple_cow | i really don't want to have to crack the cabinet doors :P |
| 08:43.20 | purple_cow | plus it's full of food |
| 08:43.26 | scanlime | you could just put dry ice in there every day |
| 08:43.42 | purple_cow | i could! |
| 08:43.55 | purple_cow | oh - if you do end up doing the real HTPC route, gensplash is the coolest thing since sliced cheese |
| 08:44.13 | scanlime | cool |
| 08:44.19 | scanlime | I probably will go that route |
| 08:44.47 | scanlime | might have to ugprade my desktop machine a little and use the leftover parts on a HTPC |
| 08:44.58 | scanlime | or just make this machine the HTPC and use my laptop for other stuff |
| 08:45.12 | purple_cow | so you get a screen that says "booting the system", then a flicker, then the same screen saying "starting freevo" :) |
| 08:45.30 | scanlime | hehehe |
| 08:45.38 | scanlime | you just need that on the VFD now :) |
| 08:47.09 | scanlime | if you're feeling lazy about the mi6k you could always plug that VFD into your serial port |
| 08:47.20 | scanlime | but then, I guess your roadblock now is an enclosure rather than electronics |
| 08:47.43 | scanlime | the power supply always ends up bigger than the actual mi6k interface... |
| 08:48.00 | purple_cow | well, it is using an initrd, so... |
| 08:48.23 | purple_cow | scanlime: the IR reciever part of the mi6k is a lot more important than the VFD |
| 08:48.51 | scanlime | :) |
| 08:48.56 | purple_cow | plus this machine doesn't have a serial port :P |
| 08:49.17 | scanlime | I'm reminded of all the time I spent with the mi6k sprawled across breadboards on my table... |
| 08:49.45 | purple_cow | i found a couple enclosure possibilities in the mouser catalog |
| 08:50.31 | purple_cow | a lot deeper than i need, but it's impossible to find an appropriately sized box |
| 08:50.37 | scanlime | there might be unconventional approaches too |
| 08:50.46 | purple_cow | oh? |
| 08:51.01 | scanlime | like making the box yourself out of smoke-colored plexiglass.. or maybe if you can find a discarded VCR or something with an unusually large display area |
| 08:51.30 | scanlime | it would actually be really cool in kind of a retro way to mount the VFD in a laserdisc player :) |
| 08:52.42 | scanlime | doubt you'd find a translucent area large enough though |
| 08:53.03 | scanlime | maybe something like a dolby receiver, that's mostly display and has few slots and knobs |
| 08:55.25 | purple_cow | oh my god |
| 08:55.27 | purple_cow | http://cgi.ebay.com/clear-Acrylic-tubes-3-x-2-3-4-72-long-1pc_W0QQitemZ7542014526QQcategoryZ61795QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem |
| 08:55.37 | purple_cow | are you thinking what i'm thinking? |
| 08:55.51 | scanlime | haha |
| 08:55.52 | scanlime | sweet |
| 08:56.06 | scanlime | now you just need some brushed metal endcaps :) |
| 08:56.57 | ChipX86 | sudoku evil |
| 08:57.27 | scanlime | what the heck.. |
| 08:57.31 | scanlime | most of my clothes hangers are green or white |
| 08:57.40 | scanlime | I have three that are a color I would best describe as "lime pink" |
| 08:57.46 | purple_cow | i bet i could get rich to machine me some endcaps |
| 08:57.55 | scanlime | =D |
| 08:57.55 | purple_cow | then i'd have spots on one side for usb & power |
| 08:59.20 | scanlime | yes =D |
| 08:59.23 | scanlime | that would rock so much |
| 08:59.31 | scanlime | of course, that means you'd want the wiring inside to look good |
| 08:59.35 | purple_cow | yeah |
| 08:59.38 | scanlime | maybe get a PCB |
| 08:59.43 | purple_cow | hmm, yes |
| 08:59.52 | scanlime | I still have files for that one-layer home-etched board I used on mine |
| 09:00.01 | purple_cow | would you be willing to design me something real? :) |
| 09:00.04 | scanlime | but etching it yourself isn't really worth it these days |
| 09:00.11 | scanlime | sure |
| 09:00.19 | scanlime | I could use two whole layers! |
| 09:01.36 | scanlime | ooh.. I need to see if this apartment's wiring is less X10-hostile |
| 09:01.57 | purple_cow | awesome |
| 09:01.59 | purple_cow | http://www.sparkfun.com/shop/index.php?shop=1&cart=381749&cat=1&itemid=444& |
| 09:02.29 | scanlime | bad url? |
| 09:02.37 | ChipX86 | This sight of thousands of bare-breasted virgins dancing before their king and his warriors is one of Africa's great traditional spectacles. But the Reed Dance is also a chance for the 37-year-old king to take a wife from more than 20,000 dancers, as he has done every year since 1999. |
| 09:02.48 | scanlime | ah, got it |
| 09:03.05 | scanlime | purple_cow: ah yes.. I remember reading the design document for that =D |
| 09:03.14 | scanlime | purple_cow: I want something like that for my snoopy phone |
| 09:03.33 | scanlime | wonder if it's be possible to adapt it to work as a cell phone handset |
| 09:04.52 | purple_cow | whoa. SGR is hand-drawn today |
| 09:06.44 | scanlime | ugh |
| 09:06.53 | scanlime | way past bedtime for me too.. I left my laundry alone too long |
| 09:06.58 | scanlime | got a fun day of WDM hackery ahead of me |
| 09:08.53 | scanlime | ugh |
| 09:08.57 | scanlime | this fruitcake is still on #linode |
| 09:09.14 | scanlime | kas_3 i setup my server apache .. my friend keep ddos attack me ..ppl cannot connect to my server.. what should i do? anyone? |
| 09:09.14 | scanlime | encode kas_3: get new friends |
| 09:09.25 | scanlime | grr.. silly xchat not sticking <> around usernames |
| 09:09.45 | scanlime | ooga |
| 09:10.09 | scanlime | darth_mall: this openslug build is definitely going to give me too many packages to choose from. hell, it's compiling boost right now :P |
| 10:42.35 | Sophie197 | uuuuuuuuughhhhn. |
| 10:42.59 | Sophie197 | too early. |
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| 14:01.14 | kergoth | grr, ctrlproxy segfaulted |
| 14:01.16 | kergoth | morning |
| 14:01.19 | Cae | morning |
| 14:01.50 | kergoth | Cae: how goes it? |
| 14:11.14 | Cae | pretty good. |
| 14:11.29 | Cae | discussing dinner plans with friends tonight (tonight is dinner party night) |
| 14:11.40 | Cae | er..remove the first tonight |
| 14:11.49 | kergoth | ahh sounds fun |
| 14:12.04 | Cae | I shall be making rosemary roasted new red potatoes |
| 14:12.38 | Cae | there will also be...chicken pesto bowtie pasta, field green salad with tangerines, and a fruit tart. |
| 14:12.47 | kergoth | yum |
| 14:13.03 | Cae | I shall be well-fed this semester. |
| 14:13.33 | kergoth | whee, my next task at work has me learning snmp. never messed with that much |
| 14:13.53 | kergoth | ~$ du -sh mail/ |
| 14:13.55 | kergoth | 245M mail/ |
| 14:13.56 | kergoth | hmm, getting there |
| 14:16.09 | Cae | the honors student council people are getting antsy about the webpage. |
| 14:16.21 | Cae | I've been telling them to get me someone to train for two years |
| 14:16.25 | kergoth | heh |
| 14:17.14 | Cae | I also technically outrank the guy that's supposed to be my supervisor. and he knows it. and I know it. and everyone else knows it. |
| 14:17.38 | Cae | er, committee head. supervisor. whatever. |
| 14:19.53 | Cae | as he is a sophomore and I am a senior |
| 14:22.04 | Cae | I've been telling them to get me a computer-savvy person for a long time. the fact that they've ignored that request does not particularly put me in a sympathetic mood for their current plight. |
| 14:41.42 | kergoth | hehe |
| 14:41.44 | kergoth | <kergoth> huh, snmp is pretty straightforward, and nifty |
| 14:41.44 | kergoth | <CosmicPenguin> It can be very ugly too |
| 14:41.44 | kergoth | <CosmicPenguin> Get yourself a big ass mib |
| 14:41.44 | kergoth | * pb_ wonders idly why kergoth would want a mib for his ass |
| 14:41.44 | kergoth | <CosmicPenguin> pb_: all the kids want network attached asses |
| 14:41.45 | kergoth | <pb_> that I can understand, but remotely managed? sounds a bridge too far if you ask me. |
| 14:52.24 | Veight | kergoth: whats with your net access? |
| 14:52.50 | kergoth | ? |
| 14:53.08 | kergoth | at home? its been going down left and right. comcast is coming out today |
| 14:53.17 | Veight | kewl |
| 14:53.18 | kergoth | no doubt they'll hook up a line tester, go "crap, that isnt good" and leave |
| 14:53.26 | Veight | lol |
| 14:53.46 | kergoth | Veight: last night the cable modem had a link to them, but i was getting _97%_ packet loss to the gateway |
| 14:54.35 | Veight | dam |
| 14:55.21 | kergoth | nikki's at the house, not sure if i should just have her answer the door for the guy, or if i should go home to meet him and explain the situation |
| 14:56.22 | Veight | i have an idea, use both ideas |
| 14:56.31 | Veight | let her answer the door and then you meet him |
| 14:56.57 | kergoth | heh |
| 14:57.10 | kergoth | the point is to avoid having to go home for a couple hours and then come back to work |
| 15:56.53 | scanlime | purple_cow: huh |
| 15:56.59 | scanlime | I just got an email addressed to "purple_cow" |
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| 16:31.58 | numist_ | ugh its morning |
| 16:32.52 | darth_mall | 'fraid so |
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| 16:50.03 | scanlime | mmm |
| 16:50.12 | scanlime | and of course wednesday is great |
| 16:50.16 | numist | ... |
| 16:50.17 | scanlime | and then there are fridays... |
| 16:50.29 | scanlime | you know, I guess the only day when we don't have lots of free food is monday |
| 16:50.38 | darth_mall | I don't have class until 12:30 on Tues. and Thurs. ^^ |
| 16:50.46 | scanlime | :) |
| 16:50.49 | numist | are you in said class now? |
| 16:51.06 | scanlime | numist: it's only 11:00 on their time zone |
| 16:51.15 | scanlime | er |
| 16:51.18 | numist | why was I thinking it was 2 hours... |
| 16:51.22 | scanlime | did I do that backwards? |
| 16:51.22 | numist | thats right.. mountain is +1 |
| 16:51.25 | scanlime | 9:00? |
| 16:51.29 | scanlime | I'm not good at time zones :P |
| 16:51.34 | numist | no, its 11 there |
| 16:51.40 | numist | its 9:00 over the ocean :P |
| 16:51.42 | scanlime | ok :P |
| 16:52.11 | darth_mall | numist: it is only 11:00 where I am, so no ^^ |
| 16:52.16 | numist | I guess I keep getting thrown off that texas is +2 but Colorado is only +1 :/ |
| 16:52.17 | darth_mall | though I do need to leave soon to run errands |
| 16:52.30 | numist | 11:00 is far too early to be awake |
| 16:53.16 | darth_mall | I want a sword-guitar |
| 16:53.16 | scanlime | numist: heh. seems a lot of people in california have trouble differentiating between texas and colorado in general :P |
| 16:53.23 | scanlime | they really have nothing at all in common |
| 16:54.31 | numist | scanlime: I dont have that problem at all, Ive lived in CO and visited TX, theres no comparison except that they are fairly close to each other longitudinally |
| 16:54.51 | scanlime | well, maybe you're the exception |
| 16:54.54 | numist | hehe |
| 16:55.06 | numist | I dont count |
| 16:55.14 | scanlime | exactly |
| 16:55.18 | numist | havent lived in CA long enough either ;) |
| 16:55.47 | scanlime | how long? |
| 16:56.00 | numist | Ive lived here on and off for.... 5 years |
| 16:56.02 | numist | maybe 6 |
| 16:56.13 | numist | 10 in canada (various places) and the rest in CO or new england |
| 16:56.16 | scanlime | huh.. xen is on CIA.. |
| 16:56.21 | scanlime | numist: nice |
| 16:56.24 | darth_mall | Fighter is so awesome |
| 16:56.49 | scanlime | now has xen been on CIA for a long time, or did they set up fairly recently but use an ass-old client script? |
| 16:57.05 | numist | whens their first commit to cia? |
| 16:57.35 | scanlime | *barf* |
| 16:57.37 | scanlime | 3 months ago |
| 16:57.40 | scanlime | why oh why? |
| 16:57.54 | scanlime | where'd they even find a copy of the client script that's so old? |
| 16:58.13 | purple_cow | urgh. is that colortext i see? |
| 16:58.16 | scanlime | yup |
| 16:58.24 | scanlime | I should send them a notice to upgrade their client, using my @vmware.com address ;) |
| 16:58.32 | purple_cow | haha |
| 16:58.57 | darth_mall | scanlime: =D |
| 17:00.12 | scanlime | not only is that colortext, it's really really old colortext |
| 17:00.23 | scanlime | or maybe it's something custom they wrote, in the style of really really old colortext... |
| 17:00.41 | scanlime | no idea what VCS they're using |
| 17:01.01 | scanlime | the 'related' box is so unhelpful for colortext |
| 17:01.45 | scanlime | huh |
| 17:01.48 | scanlime | <header name="From">levon@movementarian.org</header> |
| 17:01.53 | scanlime | I didn't know he was involved in Xen |
| 17:02.47 | purple_cow | scanlime: looks like they're using mercurial |
| 17:02.58 | scanlime | ah, cool |
| 17:03.12 | scanlime | I need to play with mercurial.. Chris has had good things to say about it |
| 17:03.18 | kergoth | Veight: surprisingly enough, the comcast tech i just talked to actually had clue |
| 17:03.19 | kergoth | Veight: nikki called me so i could talk to him. apparently the problem was us having the video connections on the same splitter as the connection to the cable modem. claims that noise from those connections flows back to the modem. he's hooking up a 2 way splitter of _theirs_, with one leg on the modem and the other going to our video splitter. |
| 17:03.45 | scanlime | haha |
| 17:04.07 | scanlime | well, they do use really fancy splitters for that |
| 17:04.11 | scanlime | I think rated to 10 GHz |
| 17:04.29 | purple_cow | i think those splitters also have filters on one side |
| 17:05.11 | scanlime | wouldn't surprise me much |
| 17:05.26 | scanlime | heh. they keep leaving the cable splitter/filter box on our building unlocked |
| 17:05.27 | kergoth | yeah, i expect the filtering is the key here |
| 17:05.30 | kergoth | heh |
| 17:05.33 | scanlime | it'd be trivial for someone to get free cable :P |
| 17:05.37 | kergoth | hehe |
| 17:05.55 | nullpuppy | or take away someones paid cable ;) |
| 17:06.00 | scanlime | or both! |
| 17:06.03 | nullpuppy | yay! |
| 17:06.07 | scanlime | yay! |
| 17:06.56 | scanlime | our building has this kind of garden-level parking structure, then three floors of apartments above that.. in the parking level there's a dumpster and all that |
| 17:06.59 | kergoth | comcast guy told me the modem has a diagnostics webpage on 192.168.100.1. didnt know that. |
| 17:07.00 | kergoth | spiffy |
| 17:07.03 | scanlime | people leave the weirdest things next to the dumpster |
| 17:07.10 | nullpuppy | hehe |
| 17:07.24 | scanlime | a couple days ago there were three shopping carts next to it |
| 17:07.24 | nullpuppy | kergoth: hmm, interesting |
| 17:07.29 | nullpuppy | makes me want to try that :) |
| 17:07.35 | nullpuppy | what modem do you have? |
| 17:07.37 | scanlime | I hope they didn't throw away the carts... |
| 17:07.49 | kergoth | nullpuppy: i have no idea. |
| 17:07.55 | nullpuppy | hehe, k |
| 17:07.55 | kergoth | i dont remember if i bought this one before i went ot tx |
| 17:08.02 | kergoth | the one i had in tx was one i picked up at fry's |
| 17:08.02 | nullpuppy | k |
| 17:08.06 | kergoth | heh |
| 17:08.33 | nullpuppy | hehe, we got business class cable at work.. they gave us this big old smc router/modem all-in-one thingy |
| 17:08.42 | nullpuppy | we don't even have root access to it :( |
| 17:08.44 | kergoth | :( |
| 17:08.47 | numist | hack it |
| 17:08.59 | kergoth | bleh |
| 17:09.03 | nullpuppy | haha, I don't think we want to risk losing it ;) |
| 17:09.08 | numist | nah |
| 17:09.29 | numist | brute force.. itll take a while, but it wont void your warranty :) |
| 17:09.35 | nullpuppy | lol |
| 17:09.38 | scanlime | woo. it's like ioctl, but it takes 7 arguments 3 of which are structs |
| 17:09.46 | kergoth | ew |
| 17:09.47 | numist | theyve probably got some stupid password on it like smcrouter or something |
| 17:10.23 | nullpuppy | yeah, true |
| 17:10.34 | scanlime | or do a TEMPEST attack to read its firmware |
| 17:10.42 | nullpuppy | hehe |
| 17:10.57 | scanlime | if so, I want hardware to do it |
| 17:32.26 | CIA-4 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10bzflag/src/ (bzfs/BanCommands.cxx common/TextUtils.cxx): |
| 17:32.26 | CIA-4 | BZFlag: make ban command accept a couple text constants for durration |
| 17:32.26 | CIA-4 | BZFlag: make ban command use m for min in duration. |
| 17:32.26 | CIA-4 | BZFlag: durration is now REQUIRED, even for 'shortbans' |
| 17:32.26 | CIA-4 | BZFlag: expand help to be more descriptive |
| 17:34.26 | kergoth | hmmm |
| 17:37.45 | CIA-4 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10bzflag/src/bzfs/BanCommands.cxx: the rest of the world has strcasecmp |
| 17:39.17 | purple_cow | Girl meets Saudi prince at college. Saudi prince falls for girl. Girl uses Saudi prince's Boeing 727 to smuggle cocaine from Columbia to Paris. It's a classic love story |
| 17:39.45 | nullpuppy | lol |
| 17:43.53 | CIA-4 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r8846 10xchat-gnome/fe-gnome/fe-gnome.c: dunno how that happened. move #include <config.h> to the top |
| 18:03.57 | kergoth | http://www.cacti.net/image.php?image_size=1024x908&image_id=43 .. neat |
| 18:07.13 | scanlime | hmm, that's cute |
| 18:08.58 | *** join/#tacobeam brc_ (n=brc@pdpc/supporter/basic/brc) |
| 18:27.27 | darth_mall | ugh |
| 18:27.35 | darth_mall | why do I smell tuna |
| 18:56.56 | scanlime | woo |
| 18:57.00 | scanlime | best feature ever |
| 18:57.14 | scanlime | my windows machine now instantly hard-reboots when I connect a USB device =D |
| 18:57.38 | ChipX86 | eep |
| 18:57.54 | scanlime | (yes, I'm working on kernel-mode code...) |
| 18:58.02 | scanlime | I was hoping for at least a blue screen though |
| 18:58.04 | ChipX86 | figured :) |
| 18:58.16 | nullpuppy | haha |
| 18:58.29 | nullpuppy | that reminds me.. I still need to install/try 5.5 |
| 18:58.38 | ChipX86 | yes, you do |
| 18:58.41 | ChipX86 | it's just so awesome |
| 18:58.48 | ChipX86 | and it'll only get better |
| 18:58.52 | nullpuppy | :) |
| 18:58.59 | darth_mall | yum -- blue screen |
| 18:59.06 | ChipX86 | new real features + little niceties here and there |
| 19:01.13 | scanlime | I need to write a windows driver that replaces the blue screen with a sad mac |
| 19:01.36 | nullpuppy | haha |
| 19:01.58 | darth_mall | that would be pretty cool |
| 19:02.04 | ChipX86 | :) |
| 19:04.35 | kergoth | hmm, 2pm already |
| 19:04.53 | ChipX86 | did Nikki leave? |
| 19:05.23 | kergoth | nope, she's in town for 10 days, unfortunately i cant afford to be taking that much time off, so just took monday off this week. |
| 19:05.28 | kergoth | she leaves on labor day |
| 19:05.32 | ChipX86 | ah |
| 19:05.43 | ChipX86 | how are things going? |
| 19:05.56 | kergoth | pretty good, she got along well with my family, which is always a good thing |
| 19:06.08 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 19:07.05 | kergoth | took her to the mall of america yesterday. had to, its like one of the only fairly well known sights in minnesota |
| 19:07.06 | kergoth | heh |
| 19:07.09 | kergoth | sore feet |
| 19:07.28 | kergoth | gonna hit up the state fair, and the rennaissance festival this weekend |
| 19:09.12 | ChipX86 | nice |
| 19:10.27 | scanlime | whoa, creepy |
| 19:10.40 | scanlime | the USB controller disappeared from this VM that I was using for testing |
| 19:11.13 | scanlime | hmm |
| 19:11.15 | scanlime | and another hard reboot |
| 19:11.19 | ChipX86 | fun. |
| 19:12.36 | nullpuppy | hehe |
| 19:15.32 | scanlime | nice day outside... |
| 19:15.39 | scanlime | and there's someone asleep on our building's couch |
| 19:16.39 | kergoth | yay for the mediawiki i set up at work quickly becoming used by everyone for tracking everything from release notes to development tasks to bugs :P |
| 19:16.51 | ChipX86 | and there's the irritated e-mail from Jocelyn :/ |
| 19:16.57 | ChipX86 | gah. |
| 19:17.28 | nullpuppy | kergoth: hehe |
| 19:17.38 | nullpuppy | ChipX86: :( why's she irritated? |
| 19:17.40 | scanlime | ChipX86: to who? |
| 19:17.44 | ChipX86 | scanlime: me |
| 19:17.51 | scanlime | ah |
| 19:18.41 | ChipX86 | guess next time the monitor team says, "Do this," I should run it by her first. |
| 19:18.51 | *** join/#tacobeam zak (n=zak@zero.navi.cx) |
| 19:19.09 | scanlime | hi zak! |
| 19:19.17 | zak | heya scanlime |
| 19:19.22 | nullpuppy | oh no! its teh zak! |
| 19:19.54 | zak | darth_mall: are you here? |
| 19:19.59 | zak | nullpuppy: is your car better? |
| 19:20.07 | zak | scanlime: guess what?! |
| 19:20.08 | nullpuppy | its at the shop right now getting fixed |
| 19:20.13 | zak | i got the 10/1 off :) |
| 19:20.28 | kergoth | nullpuppy: whats wrong with it? |
| 19:20.41 | nullpuppy | kergoth: it doesn't like to keep water |
| 19:20.45 | ChipX86 | wow |
| 19:20.58 | ChipX86 | you know, I think Jocelyn's just in a very bad mood lately. |
| 19:21.00 | nullpuppy | i think the lower radiator hose has sprung a leak (or the radiator.. not sure) |
| 19:21.03 | darth_mall | kind of |
| 19:21.12 | scanlime | zak: nice! |
| 19:21.20 | kergoth | ah |
| 19:21.41 | scanlime | zak: er.. that's a saturday. you usually work saturdays? |
| 19:22.46 | zak | scanlime: yup, every saturday for the past two years.. |
| 19:22.52 | zak | 2-6 at the ITLL |
| 19:22.58 | scanlime | ah yeah, ITLL... |
| 19:22.59 | scanlime | cool |
| 19:22.59 | zak | but sabrena is cool and covering fo me |
| 19:23.10 | nullpuppy | haha, according to baby daffy, babies are grown on tree's and harvested by leprechans |
| 19:23.16 | scanlime | yeah, I IRC from work a lot more often than I check my gmail or AIM |
| 19:23.19 | scanlime | much easier to multitask |
| 19:23.22 | zak | oh! |
| 19:23.25 | zak | i ment darth_mall |
| 19:23.44 | zak | he, kendra and I are trying to set up character rollin crainess |
| 19:23.51 | scanlime | :) |
| 19:23.52 | zak | craziness, rather. |
| 19:24.05 | scanlime | well, that's also the weekend I'm back |
| 19:24.24 | scanlime | so it might affect me a little |
| 19:24.26 | scanlime | ;) |
| 19:24.39 | darth_mall | scanlime: you're coming back this weekend? |
| 19:25.02 | scanlime | no.. sept 30th through oct 3 |
| 19:25.45 | kergoth | vlan makes me happy |
| 19:26.18 | zak | well, yea, i meant 10/1 |
| 19:26.28 | scanlime | oh |
| 19:26.28 | scanlime | ok |
| 19:26.30 | zak | why would i take a day off enless i had a good reason? |
| 19:26.37 | numist | hey zak |
| 19:26.41 | zak | darth_mall: 10/1 and character rolling are different things... |
| 19:26.53 | zak | hiya numist |
| 19:26.54 | scanlime | mostly because of this driver bug he just masterfully created |
| 19:27.11 | numist | scanlime: figure out the source of your woes? |
| 19:27.22 | scanlime | numist: I'm getting there... |
| 19:27.25 | numist | :) |
| 19:27.41 | scanlime | it's not where I thought actually.. looks like it might be some existing code I refactored before using parts of it to implement my new functionality |
| 19:27.44 | zak | numist: did you find someone to take your kitty (sorry your roommate is a minor and that your landlord sucks excessively) |
| 19:27.59 | numist | hehe someones been reading :P |
| 19:27.59 | zak | so yea, darth_mall, how about 7:30 on thursday? |
| 19:28.14 | numist | zak: no, we've been sneaking kitty inside at night because he has some serious looking wounds :( |
| 19:28.15 | gonkulator | wow, its a zak |
| 19:28.21 | darth_mall | that's why I was using e-mail |
| 19:28.27 | zak | then we can have more then one hour to play around with characters, and kendra can have friday with jake |
| 19:28.42 | zak | darth_mall: ok. i figured that out on the last one.. |
| 19:28.58 | zak | hiya gonkulator |
| 19:29.03 | gonkulator | howdy zak |
| 19:29.05 | gonkulator | whats new? |
| 19:29.05 | scanlime | numist: :( |
| 19:29.22 | scanlime | zak: so kendra and jake are still getting along well? |
| 19:29.45 | numist | god danny;s being a little bitch |
| 19:29.48 | numist | ugh |
| 19:29.52 | numist | should have gone into the office today |
| 19:30.38 | zak | darth_mall: /me imports a kendra into irc |
| 19:31.35 | Veight | kergoth: Jon just bought WoW and a card so he has an account |
| 19:32.00 | darth_mall | zak: e-mail would seriously be easier |
| 19:33.01 | kergoth | Veight: and he actually has net access now? :P |
| 19:33.22 | numist | zak++ |
| 19:33.23 | Veight | heh no not yet hes gonna use nick's pc for now |
| 19:33.27 | zak | however, you are boss. i'll deal with whatever |
| 19:33.30 | zak | ? |
| 19:33.31 | kergoth | Veight: k |
| 19:33.35 | numist | hour long chats are usually stupidpointless |
| 19:33.44 | scanlime | zak <<= 1; |
| 19:33.45 | zak | freaky |
| 19:34.02 | scanlime | now zak is twice as big! |
| 19:34.57 | *** join/#tacobeam irisieren (n=Kendra@c-24-8-182-105.hsd1.co.comcast.net) |
| 19:35.17 | irisieren | zak: poke |
| 19:35.25 | numist | :) |
| 19:35.25 | irisieren | zak: you rang?? |
| 19:35.52 | *** join/#tacobeam zak_ (n=zak@zero.navi.cx) |
| 19:36.00 | zak_ | grumble |
| 19:36.08 | zak_ | anyways.. |
| 19:36.23 | irisieren | yes...? |
| 19:36.30 | zak_ | darth_mall, irisieren: how about 19:30 on thursday? |
| 19:37.03 | zak_ | that clears all meetings, allows for more then one hour of messing around with character crap and gives irisieren all day with that jake fellow |
| 19:37.10 | zak_ | on friday that is |
| 19:37.12 | irisieren | That would work as long as it's either on campus or if Evan's house is within 20 minutes by bus... |
| 19:37.33 | irisieren | or if zak wants to give me a ride... :-) |
| 19:37.59 | numist | I think maybe if he stopped talking, his brain would stop working... |
| 19:38.04 | numist | or start... I wonder which |
| 19:40.35 | irisieren | hi scanlime! |
| 19:40.53 | irisieren | scanlime: since when are you scanliMe, not scan liNe?? |
| 19:41.04 | scanlime | since time began! |
| 19:41.11 | irisieren | zak: poke |
| 19:41.12 | scanlime | or, since a month or so ago |
| 19:41.14 | irisieren | darth_mall: poke |
| 19:41.27 | irisieren | darth_mall: anyone home? |
| 19:42.42 | zak_ | i can ride give |
| 19:42.55 | irisieren | scanlime: right... so time began a month ago... curious... |
| 19:43.06 | irisieren | zak: thanks yoda :-P |
| 19:43.29 | scanlime | irisieren: no, limes are just temporally fuzzy like that |
| 19:43.45 | *** join/#tacobeam pagefault (i=pagefaul@67.71.45.123) |
| 19:44.10 | numist | ok, back to work :D |
| 19:44.43 | irisieren | zak_: I need to head back to campus like now. |
| 19:44.48 | irisieren | so no more irc for me. |
| 19:44.57 | irisieren | you'll just have to talk to me in person |
| 19:45.05 | *** join/#tacobeam numist (i=numist@pdpc/supporter/sustaining/numist) |
| 19:45.13 | scanlime | 11:19 < kkress> e is the only WM that has not consistently pissed me off |
| 19:45.13 | scanlime | 11:19 < beng> I REQUIRE MY WINDOW MANAGER TO MATE WITH MY WINDOWS LIKE THE |
| 19:45.13 | scanlime | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:45.14 | scanlime | 11:19 < kkress> and it is not KDE/Gnome with all the bloat and the random "you |
| 19:45.14 | scanlime | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:45.16 | scanlime | 11:19 < beng> PLEASE INSERT THE OVIPOSITOR INTO MY XTERM |
| 19:45.18 | scanlime | 11:20 < kkress> o.O |
| 19:45.21 | scanlime | 11:20 * kkress backs away slowly |
| 19:45.23 | scanlime | 11:20 < beng> hehe |
| 19:45.26 | scanlime | 11:20 < beng> most enlightement themes always looked like something H.R. Geiger |
| 19:45.29 | scanlime | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:45.31 | scanlime | 11:20 < kkress> I like that word though... "ovipositor" |
| 19:45.34 | scanlime | 11:21 < beng> It's quite useful. |
| 19:45.36 | scanlime | sorry for the long paste, but that had to be done :P |
| 19:45.49 | irisieren | zak_: POKE |
| 19:45.56 | zak_ | yo |
| 19:45.59 | pagefault | video ipod probably coming out next week |
| 19:46.00 | irisieren | i'm impatient |
| 19:46.09 | irisieren | zak_: and I need to go.... |
| 19:46.14 | zak_ | ok |
| 19:46.20 | irisieren | darth_mall: isn't even on right now! |
| 19:46.27 | zak_ | fine fine |
| 19:46.27 | irisieren | whoops... |
| 19:46.33 | zak_ | we'll do it by stupid email |
| 19:46.35 | irisieren | ok, we'll talk more later |
| 19:46.36 | zak_ | grumble |
| 19:46.40 | zak_ | :P |
| 19:46.42 | irisieren | bye |
| 19:47.03 | irisieren | scanlime: gotta go, ttyl |
| 19:47.06 | scanlime | =( |
| 19:47.07 | scanlime | see ya |
| 19:53.26 | pagefault | new WoW patch is cool |
| 19:53.30 | ChipX86 | I read the whole thing with carol vs diana |
| 19:53.36 | ChipX86 | but.. scary |
| 19:53.40 | ChipX86 | pagefault: is it in? |
| 19:53.46 | pagefault | not yet I am trying out the realm patch |
| 20:02.34 | scanlime | dead or alive |
| 20:02.37 | scanlime | bring me the disco king |
| 20:12.44 | zak_ | s/kind/king |
| 20:12.49 | zak_ | he's my hostage |
| 20:12.59 | scanlime | :) |
| 20:13.35 | zak | well, that was pointless |
| 20:13.48 | zak | oh well |
| 20:14.00 | zak | in that order. |
| 20:14.20 | *** join/#tacobeam zak (n=zak@zero.navi.cx) |
| 20:14.35 | numist | aww, she wasnt kidding |
| 20:16.24 | purple_cow | hmmdeedoo |
| 20:21.09 | scanlime | ooh, no crash |
| 20:26.17 | ChipX86 | having your mouse grabbed in the mks while running vmware over vnc is weird. I thoguht something was freaking out |
| 20:26.39 | scanlime | hehe |
| 20:26.42 | kergoth`food | <CIA-7> landley * r11292 busybox/archival/bunzip2.c: (log message trimmed) |
| 20:26.42 | kergoth`food | <CIA-7> Don't comment warnings, _FIX_ warnings. (And putting in #warnings about |
| 20:26.43 | kergoth`food | <CIA-7> other warnings is just gross.) |
| 20:26.49 | scanlime | are you working from home? |
| 20:26.56 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 20:26.58 | nullpuppy | haha |
| 20:27.03 | scanlime | hah |
| 20:28.10 | ChipX86 | trying to figure out what causes Ubuntu to not want to run with a SCSI disk |
| 20:28.44 | scanlime | sigh... |
| 20:28.50 | scanlime | 1993 called, they want their debugger back! |
| 20:28.53 | kergoth | haha |
| 20:28.55 | ChipX86 | :) |
| 20:29.29 | scanlime | oop, there it goes.. antother reboot |
| 20:29.46 | scanlime | I never appreciated how pretty the Pentium 4 with HyperThreading logo in the bios is |
| 20:29.55 | ChipX86 | haha |
| 20:30.00 | scanlime | BIOS logo technology has come a long way since the old Energy Star logo |
| 20:30.19 | kergoth | <CIA-7> landley * r11292 busybox/archival/bunzip2.c: (log message trimmed) |
| 20:30.19 | kergoth | <CIA-7> Don't comment warnings, _FIX_ warnings. (And putting in #warnings about |
| 20:30.19 | kergoth | <CIA-7> other warnings is just gross.) |
| 20:30.20 | kergoth | erm |
| 20:30.21 | kergoth | damnit |
| 20:30.22 | scanlime | speaking of BIOS logos, I want to put VMware's bios logo on a regular PC :) |
| 20:30.24 | kergoth | mispaste |
| 20:30.25 | kergoth | DB_RUNRECOVERY: Fatal error, run database recovery: bdb: PANIC: fatal region error detected; run recovery |
| 20:30.26 | kergoth | :( |
| 20:30.33 | scanlime | yay, I love those! |
| 20:30.33 | ChipX86 | :(( |
| 20:30.34 | kergoth | websvn kills my repo on a regular basis |
| 20:30.34 | scanlime | svn? |
| 20:30.37 | kergoth | yep |
| 20:30.38 | numist | scanlime: yeah! |
| 20:30.50 | scanlime | kergoth: you know you want to switch to fsfs |
| 20:31.08 | numist | yay fsfs |
| 20:31.11 | ChipX86 | yay fsfs |
| 20:31.20 | kergoth | but bdb does seem pretty dated |
| 20:31.20 | numist | :D |
| 20:31.20 | kergoth | bleh |
| 20:31.46 | scanlime | kergoth: fsfs uses normal files rather than bdb.. much more crash-resistant, and read access to svn doesn't require read-write access to the db |
| 20:31.46 | kergoth | ah |
| 20:31.46 | scanlime | kergoth: so it's way better for things like websvn |
| 20:32.01 | scanlime | if your svn binary is newish, you should just be able to dump/load to convert your repository |
| 20:32.24 | scanlime | there's a backend type parameter for 'svnadmin create' |
| 20:32.32 | kergoth | ah |
| 20:34.43 | kergoth | hehe, watching it do the dump/load is just like watching svk create its local mirror |
| 20:35.16 | scanlime | hmm |
| 20:35.24 | scanlime | wonder if cacti would run on an NSLU2, and interface with my therms |
| 20:35.29 | scanlime | I'll have to investigate that tonight maybe |
| 20:35.48 | scanlime | I'd also like to set up voltage/current monitors :) |
| 20:36.15 | kergoth | do the therms already use rrdtool, or would you have to add that? |
| 20:36.20 | kergoth | would be pretty easy either way i'd think |
| 20:36.28 | scanlime | the therms.. they're kind of complicated |
| 20:36.29 | kergoth | add cacti to oe ;) |
| 20:36.31 | kergoth | ah |
| 20:36.40 | scanlime | but I've been meaning to make them simpler for a while |
| 20:36.45 | scanlime | the existing solution worked like this- |
| 20:37.03 | scanlime | each therm sends radio packets, those packets get received and partially decoded by an 8051 microcontroller in the base station.. |
| 20:37.14 | scanlime | the rest of the decoding is done by a daemon written in C, that was running on warzok |
| 20:37.32 | scanlime | that daemon would then insert the packets into a mysql database running on navi, using the mysql C client lib |
| 20:37.44 | scanlime | then there was a mod_python app that did the web frontend |
| 20:37.47 | kergoth | ah |
| 20:37.59 | scanlime | one of the modules in this mod_python app was responsible for graphing using rrdtool |
| 20:38.13 | scanlime | but instead of storing the data directly in a rrd, it used the rrd as a cache for data from mysql |
| 20:38.15 | kergoth | why not just store the data directly in an rrdtool db? |
| 20:38.16 | kergoth | ah |
| 20:38.17 | kergoth | hehe |
| 20:38.33 | scanlime | well, at the time it was because I wanted to save full-resolution data from the entire history of each sensor |
| 20:38.47 | scanlime | so I wanted something more like a normal DB |
| 20:38.57 | scanlime | but the reasoning for that was mostly so I'd have a test dataset for the development of rtgraph-c |
| 20:39.04 | kergoth | nod. rrdtool is called round robin for a reason, you dont retain all the data |
| 20:39.13 | scanlime | right |
| 20:39.15 | kergoth | whatever happened to rtgraph-c, anyway? |
| 20:39.34 | scanlime | well, it'd been on the back burner for a long time.. I've had the design idea for ages |
| 20:39.46 | scanlime | it was almost a real product because we needed something like it for Space Grant |
| 20:39.52 | kergoth | ah |
| 20:39.52 | scanlime | but I never had the time at work to really do much on it |
| 20:40.00 | scanlime | s/product/project/ |
| 20:40.24 | scanlime | so.. yeah. It'd be great to toss out most of the daemon and all the mod_python stuff, and have the daemon hook into cacti |
| 20:40.32 | scanlime | then maybe run the central cacti web interface on zero |
| 20:40.41 | scanlime | have it monitoring all my linodes, plus all my wireless sensors |
| 20:40.42 | scanlime | that would rock |
| 20:41.08 | scanlime | view my cable bandwidth and my electricity usage side-by-side ;) |
| 20:41.15 | kergoth | hehe |
| 20:41.18 | scanlime | and server temperature... |
| 20:46.09 | scanlime | woo |
| 20:46.20 | ChipX86 | uh oh |
| 20:46.24 | ChipX86 | where? |
| 20:46.32 | scanlime | this .vmx file I'm testing with keeps disappearing or becoming corrupted |
| 20:46.42 | ChipX86 | crap |
| 20:47.04 | scanlime | ooh |
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| 20:47.07 | scanlime | this time it's a 1000 byte empty file |
| 20:47.40 | kergoth | hmm, t-mobile contract is up. i should think about picking up a new phone |
| 20:47.56 | kergoth | actually, i should buy one of those new black motorola razr's, unlocked |
| 20:48.01 | kergoth | just swap my sim card in |
| 20:48.07 | kergoth | heh |
| 20:48.32 | kergoth | whee, every perl script i run seems to hang and consume 90+ % cpu |
| 20:48.36 | kergoth | what a day |
| 20:48.50 | ChipX86 | I'm ready for the week to be over |
| 20:48.53 | scanlime | I'm hoping that in 11 months or so when my contract is up, they have cheap phones with bluetooth and browsers that don't suck |
| 20:48.59 | ChipX86 | it's almost Friday, right? |
| 20:49.05 | ChipX86 | hrm |
| 20:49.07 | ChipX86 | did google die? |
| 20:50.55 | ChipX86 | now it's working again |
| 20:50.58 | ChipX86 | I couldn't reach it here or at work |
| 20:52.34 | ChipX86 | Srinivas keeps calling jdub "Jack" |
| 20:52.43 | ChipX86 | Jack Waugh |
| 20:52.47 | scanlime | works for me |
| 20:56.34 | scanlime | sigh.. |
| 20:56.46 | scanlime | going to have a record number of reboots today |
| 20:56.51 | ChipX86 | :( |
| 20:57.50 | numist | yay windows |
| 20:58.08 | scanlime | eh, more of a kernel programming thing in general |
| 20:58.19 | scanlime | I had the same problems in linux when I was first getting started |
| 20:58.48 | scanlime | it doesn't really help though that I can't poke around in the source |
| 20:58.53 | scanlime | and that some of this is just damn wacky |
| 21:00.13 | scanlime | if only I had a program that would let me save the state of the computer before I loaded my driver, then instantly restore to that point when it crashes... |
| 21:00.22 | ChipX86 | heh |
| 21:01.08 | scanlime | it would be theoretically possible to test hcmon without the rest of vmware, and do that :) |
| 21:09.19 | kergoth | woo, payday tomorrow |
| 21:09.30 | numist | woo |
| 21:09.52 | kergoth | :) |
| 21:12.27 | kergoth | i owe two months of car payments... $1300 |
| 21:12.29 | kergoth | owie |
| 21:14.31 | ChipX86 | :( |
| 21:15.21 | numist | ouch, thats more than Im getting on thursday |
| 21:17.18 | nullpuppy | thats more then I make in a month :( |
| 21:19.19 | ChipX86 | :( |
| 21:19.28 | kergoth | :( |
| 21:20.06 | kergoth | hmm, wonder what my take-home will be at this job |
| 21:20.18 | ChipX86 | eep |
| 21:20.27 | ChipX86 | they're evacuating the superdome in New Orleans |
| 21:20.38 | ChipX86 | the one place people were going to in order to escape the hurricane |
| 21:20.40 | kergoth | probably 1500 or so every two weeks |
| 21:20.41 | kergoth | doh |
| 21:20.42 | kergoth | that sucks |
| 21:21.06 | numist | ouch |
| 21:23.03 | ToyKeeper | kergoth: $650/mo for a car? That's more than my rent... |
| 21:23.19 | ChipX86 | must be nice to have rent less than $650/mo |
| 21:23.27 | numist | yeah.. mine is 2325 |
| 21:23.30 | numist | yikes |
| 21:23.31 | numist | Waist-high water surrounded the Superdome, the huge covered football stadium near downtown New Orleans that was being used as an emergency evacuation center for thousands of residents. With thousands inside, the Superdome has no electricity, no running water, toilets are overflowing, and there is nowhere for those inside to go. |
| 21:23.32 | ChipX86 | woah |
| 21:23.40 | numist | ChipX86: I share it, so I dont pay that much... but still... |
| 21:23.41 | ChipX86 | you pay over $2000 a month on rent? |
| 21:23.44 | ChipX86 | oh ok |
| 21:23.51 | ChipX86 | because that's even way more than me |
| 21:23.55 | ChipX86 | and I'm paying a lot :P |
| 21:23.56 | numist | my share is a little less than that :) |
| 21:24.29 | ChipX86 | New Orleans is not going to be a good tourist spot for a whiel.. |
| 21:25.00 | numist | wow, new orleans is the new venice: http://www.cbc.ca/gfx/pix/katrina_highways_getty_53533696.jpg |
| 21:25.08 | ChipX86 | geeze |
| 21:26.30 | kergoth | damn |
| 21:26.35 | kergoth | ToyKeeper: yep. http://kergoth.com/images/crossfire/crossfire7.jpg |
| 21:26.55 | ToyKeeper | Well.. that would do it. :) |
| 21:27.06 | numist | ever considered selling the car and getting something a little more affordable? |
| 21:27.18 | numist | that alone would probalby get you right out of debt |
| 21:27.40 | kergoth | yeah i've thought about it quite a bit.. |
| 21:27.44 | kergoth | but i really love this car ;) |
| 21:28.12 | numist | Id hope so |
| 21:28.53 | ToyKeeper | I guess rent just varies a lot... |
| 21:29.43 | kergoth | that it does |
| 21:29.44 | ToyKeeper | I can cover a house big enough for 5, plus all utilities and repairs and stuff, for $2k/mo... then of course divide by 5... |
| 21:30.16 | kergoth | i'm paying around $1100 a month on the mortgage for a small 2br 1bath townhouse |
| 21:30.22 | kergoth | and cost of living is pretty low here |
| 21:30.25 | kergoth | ToyKeeper: where are you at? |
| 21:30.32 | ToyKeeper | kergoth: Fort Closet, CO |
| 21:30.45 | kergoth | ah |
| 21:31.09 | nullpuppy | technically a 4br, but the 4th was converted into a den |
| 21:31.36 | kergoth | i need to see if i can qualify to refinance. sitting at 6.875% atm |
| 21:31.54 | ToyKeeper | Heh. ~$1300 for 5br, 3bath, 2 living rooms, plus separate garage |
| 21:32.05 | nullpuppy | kergoth: thats where I'm at too right now.. we can't refi right now though :( |
| 21:32.08 | kergoth | :( |
| 21:32.36 | ToyKeeper | Er, including taxes... the mortgage is less but I forget how much. |
| 21:32.38 | nullpuppy | depending on how things work out, we might be able to come the 1st of the year, and get my name on the mortgage |
| 21:37.15 | purple_cow | oh no! slimspace! |
| 21:37.25 | slimspace | nope, no slimspaces here |
| 21:37.44 | ToyKeeper | I guess I can't complain much. I'd have to work a lot more to afford living almost anywhere else. |
| 21:38.05 | scanlime | I'm curious how much the other people in my apartment complex are paying for rent |
| 21:38.20 | scanlime | I'm paying $950, but I think that was a special deal.. like maybe the previous owner died, or something :P |
| 21:38.40 | nullpuppy | lol |
| 21:38.50 | purple_cow | ooh, that's a question we should ask our sponsor |
| 21:38.55 | purple_cow | "how much money you got?" |
| 21:38.58 | darth_mall | hehe |
| 21:39.02 | slimspace | ^^ |
| 21:39.20 | purple_cow | ugh, victorian architecture |
| 21:39.20 | scanlime | "Windows GUI symbolic debugger has encountered a problem and needs to close. We are sorry for the inconvenience." |
| 21:39.25 | purple_cow | the fear of empty space |
| 21:40.05 | numist | when the debugger dies, its time to abandon ship |
| 21:40.07 | darth_mall | scanlime: best message evar |
| 21:40.19 | scanlime | sigh... |
| 21:40.29 | scanlime | I just want a BSOD |
| 21:40.32 | scanlime | is that too much to ask? |
| 21:40.36 | darth_mall | recursive definition! recursive definition! |
| 21:41.52 | slimspace | bleh, I'm gonna have to use matlab at work |
| 21:41.56 | darth_mall | yay |
| 21:42.44 | scanlime | http://www3.tfaw.com/comics/profile.html?cart=5242940173198706&sku=10755a |
| 21:43.02 | darth_mall | yep saw that |
| 21:43.03 | scanlime | I should check those out.. turns out my boss recently became a firefly fan, and he ordered those comics :) |
| 21:43.31 | purple_cow | yes, the prior experience of your users is part of your software environment :P |
| 21:43.39 | scanlime | ? |
| 21:43.46 | purple_cow | scanlime: people asking questions |
| 21:43.52 | scanlime | um.. yes... |
| 21:44.00 | scanlime | dlopen("user-experience.so") |
| 21:44.56 | purple_cow | hehehe |
| 21:44.59 | purple_cow | darth_mall is getting cranky |
| 21:45.34 | darth_mall | I've decided I need to start punching people in the stomach who get in my way in the hals |
| 21:45.37 | darth_mall | s/ls$/lls/ |
| 21:45.46 | darth_mall | or the kidneys |
| 21:45.51 | darth_mall | whichever target presents itself first |
| 21:46.01 | purple_cow | darth_mall: good idea |
| 21:47.46 | darth_mall | digital pants! |
| 21:47.47 | purple_cow | well, not questions, but answers really |
| 21:48.16 | scanlime | where are you two? |
| 21:48.23 | darth_mall | senior project lecture thing |
| 21:48.28 | scanlime | oh, that |
| 21:48.29 | scanlime | with Bruce? |
| 21:48.32 | darth_mall | yep |
| 21:48.35 | scanlime | yay Bruce |
| 21:48.42 | slimspace | bored |
| 21:48.43 | purple_cow | "what's included in the hardware environment" "the machine?" |
| 21:48.48 | scanlime | he's one of the best CS people at CU |
| 21:48.49 | darth_mall | hehe |
| 21:49.24 | scanlime | purple_cow: you need to scream out answers like "The APIC controller!" and "The TLB cache!" |
| 21:49.30 | numist | wow, sounds like some real genius at that screen |
| 21:49.37 | numist | whoa, I said screen |
| 21:49.39 | numist | I meant school |
| 21:49.57 | scanlime | eh |
| 21:50.27 | scanlime | I wasn't being sarcastic.. Bruce really is a great guy. The lectures for senior projects are really hokey, but he does a great job of running the class |
| 21:51.02 | purple_cow | CU is probably worse than a *few* schools, but i'd bet most are the same |
| 21:53.07 | darth_mall | who likes pants? |
| 21:53.28 | darth_mall | =\ |
| 21:54.20 | numist | I like skirts! |
| 21:54.23 | numist | >_> |
| 21:54.33 | darth_mall | that reminds me |
| 21:54.42 | darth_mall | I need to get around to measuring meself and ordering a utilikilt |
| 21:54.46 | purple_cow | :) |
| 21:54.49 | numist | a utilikilt? |
| 21:54.53 | darth_mall | yep |
| 21:54.58 | numist | link|pics |
| 21:54.59 | purple_cow | they're neat |
| 21:55.03 | purple_cow | google.com |
| 21:55.04 | ChipX86 | yepp |
| 21:55.05 | purple_cow | kilts with pockets |
| 21:55.09 | numist | sweet |
| 21:55.16 | scanlime | hehe |
| 21:55.17 | darth_mall | they're also not wool |
| 21:55.28 | scanlime | I want a kilt with an espresso machine built-in |
| 21:55.29 | darth_mall | numist: links and pics are what google is for |
| 21:55.59 | numist | and shirt |
| 21:56.30 | darth_mall | "I'm not google. Go look it up" |
| 22:00.29 | scanlime | " If you connect the null modem cable to a serial port, the debugger can run at its current top speed of 19200, compared to the speed of 9600 over a modem. This configuration is generally considered more reliable than using a modem for the following reasons" |
| 22:00.35 | scanlime | high tech |
| 22:00.54 | numist | wow, mind boggling speeds |
| 22:03.25 | nullpuppy | hmmm, interesting... http://www.tiddlywiki.com |
| 22:04.34 | scanlime | ooh |
| 22:04.46 | scanlime | my officemate, on vacation for a month, appears to have a null modem cable |
| 22:04.48 | scanlime | yoink |
| 22:05.28 | scanlime | his side of the office is freezing |
| 22:05.40 | scanlime | maybe that's why he keeps everything turned on all the time... |
| 22:06.13 | numist | or maybe if you turned yours off, your side would freeze too |
| 22:06.36 | scanlime | well, he's a lot closer to the A/C unit |
| 22:07.04 | scanlime | now I get to try this kernel-mode serial debugging thing... |
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| 22:12.38 | JeffM2501 | purple_cow, why are they soooooooo fucking stupid? |
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| 22:13.09 | pagefault | thanks |
| 22:16.22 | purple_cow | JeffM2501: i honestly don't know |
| 22:16.50 | JeffM2501 | it's like something is in the water supply for kids these days |
| 22:17.03 | JeffM2501 | maybe like fruit rollups have retard drugs in them |
| 22:17.03 | purple_cow | yep |
| 22:17.10 | purple_cow | scanlime: kiddies in #bzflag |
| 22:17.19 | scanlime | figured.. but it's the details I'm curious about ;) |
| 22:17.24 | JeffM2501 | "frosted flakes, now with neuro inhibitors" |
| 22:17.32 | JeffM2501 | scanlime, why we don't use jpeg over png |
| 22:17.40 | purple_cow | we need .jpeg support because a single test image compresses a few kb smaller than png |
| 22:17.48 | JeffM2501 | abnd why they can't just fucking read |
| 22:17.50 | scanlime | oh, of course |
| 22:17.58 | scanlime | bzflag needs that jpeg+alpha stuff raster coded up :P |
| 22:18.03 | JeffM2501 | so they can get "more" textures |
| 22:18.10 | JeffM2501 | we just need to use devIL |
| 22:18.11 | JeffM2501 | :) |
| 22:18.20 | scanlime | well duh, jpeg over png means he can fit more in his video memory |
| 22:18.31 | JeffM2501 | totaly |
| 22:19.07 | purple_cow | raster coded up? :) |
| 22:19.08 | numist | I really hope you guys are joking around.. |
| 22:19.09 | JeffM2501 | how's it going up north scanlime? |
| 22:19.24 | JeffM2501 | numist, these are the things the kids are saying we should do |
| 22:19.31 | numist | ok, phew |
| 22:19.31 | JeffM2501 | we are mocking them in responce |
| 22:19.39 | numist | jolly good |
| 22:19.48 | JeffM2501 | I sent him of on a "test" |
| 22:19.51 | JeffM2501 | it's fun |
| 22:19.53 | JeffM2501 | and rewarding |
| 22:20.14 | numist | yeah, the rendering time for the jpgs over pngs would make up for the memory savings in gpu death |
| 22:20.25 | numist | actually... is jpg decoding done in gpu? |
| 22:20.29 | JeffM2501 | no |
| 22:20.39 | JeffM2501 | the cards don't take any disk format |
| 22:20.45 | numist | right |
| 22:20.46 | scanlime | haha |
| 22:20.46 | JeffM2501 | you have to decompress before you send them |
| 22:20.50 | JeffM2501 | so it's ALL the same |
| 22:20.52 | JeffM2501 | to the card |
| 22:20.52 | numist | the video memory is all raw |
| 22:20.55 | JeffM2501 | exactly the same |
| 22:20.55 | numist | yeah |
| 22:21.01 | JeffM2501 | well it can be compressed, but that's up to the card |
| 22:21.07 | numist | maybe using gif would help |
| 22:21.09 | JeffM2501 | you send it all the same, you send it raw |
| 22:21.10 | scanlime | purple_cow: yeah- raster put together an RGBA variant of jpeg for e17 |
| 22:21.34 | scanlime | JeffM2501: doing pretty well- my job got a bit more interesting this week |
| 22:22.01 | JeffM2501 | good or bad interesting? |
| 22:22.10 | scanlime | good, I suppose :) |
| 22:22.16 | scanlime | getting to write windows kernel code |
| 22:22.16 | purple_cow | scanlime: crazy |
| 22:22.23 | JeffM2501 | ooo fun |
| 22:22.36 | scanlime | it's actually pretty cool.. like learning to write linux kernel modules all over again |
| 22:22.47 | scanlime | but with a crazy wacky architecture and strange and unusual debugging tools |
| 22:22.59 | numist | microsofts tools arent the most intuitive |
| 22:23.08 | scanlime | eh |
| 22:23.12 | scanlime | windbg isn't much different from gdb |
| 22:23.16 | scanlime | it just has more cryptic command names |
| 22:23.25 | numist | windbg? |
| 22:23.53 | scanlime | microsoft's debugger |
| 22:23.53 | numist | why didnt they just call it wingdb... |
| 22:24.00 | numist | :P |
| 22:24.00 | scanlime | heh. it doesn't really look much like gdb, other than that both have a command line |
| 22:24.11 | scanlime | and windbg is both user mode and kernel mode |
| 22:25.13 | scanlime | guh. I really hosed vmnet on my linux box |
| 22:25.53 | numist | hmm.. scanlime really hit the ground running over there |
| 22:28.17 | CIA-4 | galago-wiki: 03ChipX86 * 10wiki/First-Time_Installation_Guide: Reverted edit of VasskoV, changed back to last version by Mrose |
| 22:29.50 | CIA-4 | galago-wiki: 03ChipX86 * 10wiki/First-Time_Installation_Guide: Delete all the spam content from user VasskoV on the Talk:First-Time_Installation_Guide page. |
| 22:30.09 | numist | boo |
| 22:30.38 | *** join/#tacobeam itodd (n=itodd@chargedsoftware.com) |
| 22:30.43 | ChipX86 | damn spammers |
| 22:30.44 | ChipX86 | hey itodd |
| 22:30.49 | scanlime | numist: hm? |
| 22:31.16 | itodd | hey chip |
| 22:31.50 | numist | scanlime: didnt take you long to integrate and get productive at vmware |
| 22:32.08 | scanlime | I've been here over a month |
| 22:32.14 | purple_cow | hehe. slimspace is napping |
| 22:32.36 | scanlime | and I wouldnt' say I've been all that productive yet.. been writing and debugging a lot of code, but nothing that interesting |
| 22:32.45 | numist | mm hmm |
| 22:33.07 | scanlime | and very little that's actually going to get used :P |
| 22:33.54 | CIA-4 | navi-misc: 03evan * r8847 10xchat-gnome/plugins/notification/notification.c: Not quite the behaviour I was looking for, but better. Also cut some cruft. |
| 22:37.05 | CIA-4 | navi-misc: 03evan * r8848 10xchat-gnome/plugins/notification/notification.c: Fix some type warnings. Cut more cruft. |
| 22:39.06 | scanlime | wow |
| 22:39.12 | scanlime | something I did screwed up the way windows renders titlebars |
| 22:39.25 | numist | :o |
| 22:39.26 | CIA-4 | navi-misc: 03evan * r8849 10xchat-gnome/plugins/notification/notification.c: ws |
| 22:39.26 | scanlime | I have an all-black "please wait.." on my shutdown dialog |
| 22:39.35 | numist | nice |
| 22:41.02 | darth_mall | mmm -- black |
| 22:41.08 | ChipX86 | I love it when you get a bug report that looks like it's going to be a major effor to fix, and it ends up being a one-line change |
| 22:41.15 | darth_mall | me too |
| 22:41.28 | purple_cow | mornin' slimspace! |
| 22:41.32 | scanlime | ChipX86: most of the USB bugs are like that.. it just takes you a month of debugging to find that line |
| 22:41.45 | slimspace | bleh |
| 22:41.47 | ChipX86 | yeah :/ |
| 22:42.11 | scanlime | fucking hyperterminal... |
| 22:42.19 | scanlime | I shouldn't have to give it my area code to get a serial terminal |
| 22:42.26 | scanlime | I don't even know the area code here! |
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| 22:42.40 | nullpuppy | lol |
| 22:42.50 | ChipX86 | this one was saying that if you had a VM set to auto-detect the CD-ROM device, powered it on, changed it to point to an ISO, saved, changed it back to a device, and set to auto-detect, it would allow you to get around the "can't set to auto-detect while powering on" option |
| 22:42.59 | ChipX86 | I was thinking, "Great, now I have to figure out some weird state issue" |
| 22:43.24 | ChipX86 | turned out we were just passing NULL to gtk_entry_set_text instead of "" |
| 22:44.13 | nullpuppy | hehe |
| 22:44.29 | darth_mall | blah blah blah blah |
| 22:45.18 | darth_mall | hush, Bruce! |
| 22:45.43 | scanlime | say Hi to Bruce for me :) |
| 22:46.05 | numist | DO IT |
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| 22:46.57 | ChipX86 | Cae! |
| 22:47.06 | Cae | LOL |
| 22:47.23 | darth_mall | zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz |
| 22:47.56 | purple_cow | i suggest we decide our code name over a barroom brawl rather than coffee |
| 22:48.06 | darth_mall | indeed! |
| 22:48.12 | scanlime | wasabi is a good codename |
| 22:48.23 | Cae | ya missed me, I take it. |
| 22:48.31 | scanlime | then you can use the same sexy japanese watermark :) |
| 22:52.01 | Cae | hmm. I shall write down these two recipes. one for rosemary roasted new potatoes with garlic, one without |
| 22:52.07 | ChipX86 | woah |
| 22:52.16 | ChipX86 | scim makes multi-language input on X actually work nicely |
| 22:52.17 | numist | why bother with the second recipe? |
| 22:52.23 | Cae | I prefer the one with garlic, but one of the people that will be at dinner is allergic to it. |
| 22:52.33 | numist | allergic to garlic?! :o |
| 22:52.52 | Cae | I don't know how allergic. so the idea is that we're going to segregate the garlic, ask her, and maybe make half and half or something |
| 22:53.07 | Cae | or all garlic-less |
| 22:53.10 | Cae | yeah... |
| 22:53.13 | numist | :( |
| 22:53.17 | numist | ah well |
| 22:53.21 | Cae | well, it's more or less the same recipe. just one has garlic. |
| 22:53.45 | Cae | new red potatoes, scrubbed and quartered. olive oil. chopped rosemary. salt. pepper. |
| 22:53.56 | Cae | and then chopped garlic, if garlic. |
| 22:58.55 | ChipX86 | scim fun. |
| 22:59.25 | Cae | Chip loves his scim |
| 22:59.30 | numist | are gas prices up from the new orleans stuff already? |
| 22:59.30 | Cae | me plays with it all the time |
| 22:59.31 | ChipX86 | :P |
| 22:59.36 | ChipX86 | you do? |
| 22:59.49 | Cae | well, that was supposed to be "he" |
| 22:59.55 | ChipX86 | sure it was. |
| 22:59.57 | Cae | but I can't type on a laptop anymore |
| 23:00.04 | numist | yeah, m & h are right next to each other |
| 23:00.14 | Cae | they're kinda diagonal |
| 23:00.21 | Cae | much like my position to this keyboard, actually |
| 23:00.22 | numist | plus j&n are in the way |
| 23:00.36 | Cae | I'm all sorts of special, numist |
| 23:00.40 | numist | fair enough |
| 23:02.02 | Cae | so special that sometimes I defy description. |
| 23:02.52 | ChipX86 | I can quickly and easy type in tons of languages now with minimal effort (aside from knowing how to write in those languages) |
| 23:03.18 | Cae | ChipX86: LOL |
| 23:03.47 | ChipX86 | 日本語！ |
| 23:04.04 | ChipX86 | I wonder if that came out right in any IRC client |
| 23:04.15 | Cae | not mine |
| 23:04.19 | nullpuppy | 16:01 < ChipX86> W\^A |
| 23:04.20 | ChipX86 | which do you use? |
| 23:04.31 | nullpuppy | of course.. that probably looks right on your screen :) |
| 23:04.36 | ChipX86 | nullpuppy: nope |
| 23:04.36 | Cae | *snicker* this is windows. gaim 1.2.1 is easiest for me. |
| 23:04.44 | Cae | <-- on Luna |
| 23:05.10 | *** join/#tacobeam ChipX86-64 (n=chipx86@adsl-69-225-164-190.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) |
| 23:05.10 | scanlime | I get lots of reverse-video garbage! |
| 23:05.21 | Cae | ehhhhh..I'll bring the liquor. |
| 23:05.21 | scanlime | (irssi on a non-unicode term) |
| 23:05.48 | Cae | it IS Kelly's birthday..and it is a sipping liquor.. |
| 23:05.56 | *** join/#tacobeam ChipX86-64 (n=chipx86@adsl-69-225-164-190.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) |
| 23:05.59 | scanlime | yay.. best part of having the vmware source is that I can randomly comment out other people's code when it crashes |
| 23:06.02 | ChipX86-64 | helps if I launch it right |
| 23:06.11 | ChipX86-64 | 日本語 |
| 23:06.16 | ChipX86-64 | did that show up right anywhere? |
| 23:06.17 | numist | isnt it supposed to be ChipX86_64? |
| 23:06.25 | numist | nah, garbage here |
| 23:06.26 | Cae | not me |
| 23:06.27 | ChipX86-64 | who cares |
| 23:06.28 | ChipX86-64 | bah |
| 23:06.29 | numist | even a control-^ |
| 23:06.37 | Cae | I don't expect it to show up properly on mine though |
| 23:06.41 | numist | me neither |
| 23:06.42 | ChipX86-64 | unicode is a fad anyway. |
| 23:06.44 | Cae | the language stuff I have installed is... |
| 23:06.44 | numist | yeah |
| 23:06.49 | Cae | nonexistent |
| 23:06.54 | ChipX86-64 | english is the only language people need. Yeah. |
| 23:06.55 | numist | except windows likes unicode.. |
| 23:07.02 | ChipX86-64 | utf-8 is also a fad |
| 23:07.06 | ChipX86-64 | give me ascii. |
| 23:07.08 | numist | yeah, damn that utf |
| 23:07.08 | Cae | numist: only when people don't want it |
| 23:07.41 | numist | Cae: most people probably think that utf = unicode type format or something |
| 23:08.53 | Cae | unhappy thrown ferret |
| 23:09.01 | Cae | duh |
| 23:09.12 | Cae | 8 just means there's 8 of em |
| 23:09.27 | Cae | which also constitutes a ferret stampede. or would, if they weren't thrown. |
| 23:09.52 | Cae | however, thrown they are, thus stampede they cannot be |
| 23:10.15 | ChipX86 | I'm disappointed. I can't type in Russian in gedit |
| 23:10.17 | ChipX86 | er |
| 23:10.18 | ChipX86 | in open office |
| 23:10.21 | ChipX86 | it works in gedit |
| 23:11.03 | numist | Cae: lol |
| 23:11.37 | Cae | or maybe it's unvaccinated. they are likely unhappy too though. I would be, if I were being thrown. |
| 23:12.31 | Cae | anyway, I'm going to head in the vague direction of dinner party, and stop for fuel on the way. |
| 23:12.41 | Cae | have fun :) |
| 23:12.43 | ChipX86 | mmm 5 bugs left |
| 23:12.50 | ChipX86 | aww |
| 23:16.04 | nullpuppy | god dammit |
| 23:16.12 | nullpuppy | radiator was split open :( |
| 23:16.40 | ChipX86 | ? |
| 23:16.59 | nullpuppy | my car wasn't holding water.. turned out the radiator split open .. |
| 23:17.04 | ChipX86 | ugh |
| 23:17.06 | nullpuppy | so.. have to replace the radiator now :( |
| 23:17.32 | ChipX86 | that really sucks |
| 23:22.19 | numist | ouch |
| 23:22.26 | numist | no chance to weld it? |
| 23:22.41 | numist | I recall being able to weld mine when it stopped retaining coolant |
| 23:22.45 | pagefault | codecodecode |
| 23:22.50 | scanlime | you just need lots of eggs |
| 23:25.37 | pagefault | where can I find info about installing OS X on x86 |
| 23:26.07 | scanlime | OS X doesn't work on x86, nope. Never has, never will. |
| 23:26.41 | ChipX86 | we don't support such things |
| 23:26.41 | pagefault | hehe |
| 23:26.52 | ChipX86 | and I know not of which you are speaking |
| 23:27.26 | *** join/#tacobeam itodd (n=itodd@chargedsoftware.com) |
| 23:29.55 | numist | *cough*hey pagefault*cough* http://wiki.osx86project.org/wiki/index.php/Main_Page *cough* |
| 23:30.04 | ChipX86 | *gasp* |
| 23:30.07 | ChipX86 | no such thing |
| 23:30.09 | numist | ugh, my throat |
| 23:30.13 | numist | I have no idea what your talking about pagefault |
| 23:30.14 | ChipX86 | pay no attention to that curtain behind the man |
| 23:30.19 | numist | :) |
| 23:30.30 | numist | I got freedsb natively working on my thinkpad now.. damn is it slow |
| 23:30.41 | numist | Im guessing the video card isnt supported |
| 23:31.02 | ChipX86 | I know nothing of this |
| 23:31.41 | numist | what, freedsb isnt illegal |
| 23:31.42 | numist | *cough* |
| 23:32.04 | ChipX86 | nothing! I know nothing! |
| 23:32.44 | kergoth | bleh |
| 23:33.59 | numist | that looks like a fun place to visit |
| 23:34.05 | numist | wouldnt want any property or valuables there though |
| 23:35.35 | pagefault | thanks |
| 23:35.41 | pagefault | I want to *cough* port some things |
| 23:36.43 | darth_mall | arg |
| 23:36.45 | darth_mall | the evolution-exchange package failed to build |
| 23:37.11 | numist | :) |
| 23:37.15 | kergoth | hrm |
| 23:37.19 | kergoth | no new fear factory on ubernet yet |
| 23:37.22 | kergoth | thats sad |
| 23:37.26 | purple_cow | darth_mall: yeah, i noticed that |
| 23:37.28 | purple_cow | grumble |
| 23:38.40 | pagefault | damn the wiki is down for that os x thing |
| 23:39.25 | numist | pagefault: looks like Ill be damn busy when Im in town oct 05 - 09, looks like we'll have to arrange something for the holidays |
| 23:39.35 | pagefault | thats cool |
| 23:39.43 | scanlime | guh |
| 23:39.49 | scanlime | major linux machine kernel oopsage |
| 23:39.57 | scanlime | can't start any new processes... |
| 23:40.04 | pagefault | remote desktop works amazingly over LAN's |
| 23:40.05 | numist | actually, friday daytime Ill probably be pretty idle |
| 23:40.13 | pagefault | it's like being at the actual desktop |
| 23:40.47 | numist | pagefault: what are you doing fri oct 07, morning/daytime? |
| 23:41.16 | pagefault | probably nothing |
| 23:41.46 | numist | we'll have to pencil something in there... dont know exact plans... |
| 23:42.30 | ChipX86 | IBM called |
| 23:42.37 | ChipX86 | they say they've found no problems whatsoever with any part of the laptop |
| 23:42.55 | numist | ... |
| 23:43.16 | numist | are you and ibm talking about the same machine? |
| 23:43.21 | ChipX86 | yes |
| 23:43.32 | ChipX86 | they're transferring me to the technician |
| 23:43.42 | numist | damn right they are |
| 23:45.09 | ChipX86 | argh |
| 23:45.11 | ChipX86 | no |
| 23:45.12 | ChipX86 | they're not |
| 23:45.17 | ChipX86 | they said the technicians all went home |
| 23:45.19 | ChipX86 | they want me to call them tomorrow |
| 23:45.20 | numist | ... |
| 23:45.22 | numist | kill them |
| 23:45.29 | nullpuppy | yay, he found a cheaper radiator |
| 23:45.43 | numist | nullpuppy: junkyards are your friend... |
| 23:45.57 | nullpuppy | hehe, yeah, true |
| 23:47.02 | ChipX86 | IBM's lost my future business |
| 23:47.05 | ChipX86 | or Lenovo |
| 23:47.08 | ChipX86 | or whoever |
| 23:47.13 | numist | :( |
| 23:47.43 | kergoth | wtf |
| 23:47.52 | scanlime | @#$@% |
| 23:47.53 | kergoth | i had my bass and treble completely turned down on the controls for my computer speakers |
| 23:47.57 | kergoth | no wonder this song sounded like shit |
| 23:50.19 | darth_mall | I really hate this modem |
| 23:53.19 | ChipX86 | I am so pissed off right now. |
| 23:54.44 | nullpuppy | :( |
| 23:56.12 | kergoth | :( |
| 23:56.32 | ChipX86 | I want my fucking laptop |
| 23:56.51 | ChipX86 | and I'm going to make a lot of noise until my $700 is back |
| 23:58.31 | pagefault | the hurricane is here |
| 23:58.32 | pagefault | what is left of it |
| 23:58.37 | pagefault | just a lot of rain |
