| 00:01.36 | file | I heard Veight |
| 00:01.37 | file | he's scary |
| 00:01.42 | kergoth | haha |
| 00:02.22 | purple_cow | ahhh, food |
| 00:03.19 | file | kergoth: you should have thrown something at him like I said! |
| 00:03.44 | file | even on a Quad Xeon, RT takes a long time to go... |
| 00:04.01 | purple_cow | RT? |
| 00:04.07 | file | Request Tracker |
| 00:04.08 | kergoth | file: hehe |
| 00:04.22 | file | I think this test case horribly failed and it's hung |
| 00:04.30 | kergoth | file: i need a directx filter for echo cancelation.. just invert the waveform coming ou t of my speakers and remove it from my mic input :P |
| 00:04.37 | file | :P |
| 00:04.55 | kergoth | this mic has basic noise cancelation, but voice isnt noise, it isnt ambient, its whatll be passed right through |
| 00:04.57 | kergoth | he |
| 00:04.58 | kergoth | h |
| 00:05.21 | purple_cow | that's not how noise cancelling works :P |
| 00:05.30 | purple_cow | the mic actually has two mics - one in front, one on the side |
| 00:05.36 | purple_cow | and it cancels out things that come from the side |
| 00:05.59 | file | woot failed test |
| 00:06.05 | kergoth | well why the hell isnt it working then |
| 00:06.11 | kergoth | file's voice shoudlve been coming in both |
| 00:06.18 | kergoth | so eh shouldnt have heard any echo |
| 00:06.26 | file | what are you using for software again? |
| 00:06.34 | kergoth | eyebeam |
| 00:06.40 | kergoth | though i've tested with teamspeak too |
| 00:06.44 | file | did you muck with the gains? |
| 00:07.33 | file | hrm I do believe I shall move over to my laptop |
| 00:07.41 | file | yay screen |
| 00:08.10 | kergoth | file: well, i can enable the automatic echo cancelation in eyebeam |
| 00:08.17 | kergoth | but it really shouldnt be necessary, the mic should be doing it |
| 00:08.24 | file[laptop] | you'd be surprised |
| 00:09.09 | file[laptop] | you need a real VoIP phone though |
| 00:09.18 | kergoth | yeah |
| 00:09.41 | purple_cow | hehe |
| 00:09.43 | purple_cow | ``Exhausted after his five weeks on the ranch, Bush begins new vacation in Idaho'' |
| 00:10.30 | darth_mall | what? |
| 00:10.40 | darth_mall | that must be an onion headline |
| 00:11.21 | file[laptop] | this test case is just... hanging |
| 00:12.06 | purple_cow | darth_mall: that's the "headline" on fark |
| 00:14.57 | purple_cow | soo |
| 00:15.02 | purple_cow | what other projects do we want to list? |
| 00:15.35 | ToyKeeper | Yay! I've learned what happens when Bush goes on extended vacations... he pretends not to notice the FBI/CIA warnings until it's too late. :) |
| 00:16.28 | darth_mall | purple_cow: is there another way to get to webcal without using cuconnect? |
| 00:16.34 | purple_cow | darth_mall: webcal.colorado.edu |
| 00:16.49 | darth_mall | oh... duh |
| 00:18.37 | kergoth | ugh |
| 00:18.39 | kergoth | damn microphone |
| 00:18.44 | kergoth | noise canceling my ass |
| 00:19.48 | darth_mall | purple_cow: let's do the powerpoint to flash converter! |
| 00:20.27 | purple_cow | yes! i love both those things so! |
| 00:20.42 | purple_cow | goddamnit bruce, it's a URL |
| 00:21.51 | darth_mall | bleh |
| 00:21.57 | darth_mall | most of these projects look less than interesting |
| 00:22.13 | darth_mall | 35 looks like it might be neat |
| 00:22.32 | darth_mall | ooh! championship solitaire! there's a winner |
| 00:23.31 | darth_mall | heh |
| 00:23.35 | darth_mall | Han put a project up there |
| 00:24.23 | orchid | http://bzgirl.bakadigital.com/yahoo.jpg what is the 3rd letter here? a pine tree? |
| 00:24.30 | darth_mall | purple_cow: what do you think of 5? |
| 00:24.45 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10BZFlagG3D/tools/mapedit/ (5 files in 3 dirs): bind a GL context to the window, and start some event handaling |
| 00:24.55 | file[laptop] | orchid: 4? |
| 00:26.10 | purple_cow | orchid: looks like a little elf house |
| 00:26.17 | orchid | heh |
| 00:26.20 | orchid | omg |
| 00:26.35 | orchid | I guessed wrong, got another try |
| 00:26.48 | file[laptop] | wow this episode of House is evil |
| 00:27.28 | orchid | http://bzgirl.bakadigital.com/yahoo2.jpg hehe, thats enough of yahoo's mind games for today |
| 00:27.43 | purple_cow | darth_mall: looks cool |
| 00:28.34 | darth_mall | 12 looked cool until I saw the words "Java platform" |
| 00:29.52 | darth_mall | purple_cow: in the event that that we don't get 11, 10 seems to be another aspect of the same project |
| 00:31.19 | purple_cow | if we don't get 11, we can't do 10 |
| 00:31.31 | ToyKeeper | orchid: At yahoo, just try again... It gave me this once: http://toykeeper.net/tmp/word.jpg |
| 00:32.05 | darth_mall | oh |
| 00:32.21 | darth_mall | but we can still put both of them in our list, can't we? |
| 00:32.31 | ToyKeeper | orchid: Yours at least resemble letters. :) |
| 00:32.59 | purple_cow | darth_mall: that's kind of useless though, isn't it? |
| 00:33.47 | darth_mall | I suppose |
| 00:34.42 | darth_mall | except for the bit about PHP and Java, 30 looks kinda interesting to me |
| 00:35.11 | darth_mall | since it's supposed to be "completely web-based" |
| 00:35.12 | orchid | ToyKeeper: heh |
| 00:38.08 | purple_cow | i think they mean java |
| 00:38.39 | pagefault | hmm |
| 00:38.43 | pagefault | so google is relasing a IM tomorrow |
| 00:38.45 | pagefault | and VoIP |
| 00:38.46 | pagefault | apparently |
| 00:39.08 | file[laptop] | we'll see. |
| 00:39.16 | pagefault | well the IM is already up |
| 00:43.27 | darth_mall | see anything else interesting? |
| 00:43.39 | purple_cow | 44 looks cool |
| 00:44.11 | darth_mall | ooh |
| 00:44.13 | darth_mall | hadn't seen that |
| 00:46.02 | darth_mall | 45 is funny |
| 00:46.14 | scanlime | so they have a demo here of the first-dever WUSB device |
| 00:46.17 | darth_mall | cramp |
| 00:46.18 | darth_mall | hehe |
| 00:46.29 | scanlime | and it uses the linux USB gadget API =D |
| 00:46.33 | purple_cow | hah, music entrepreneurship center |
| 00:46.52 | scanlime | also lots of vmwares running with hardware-accelerated virtualization on experimental intel silicon |
| 00:47.47 | darth_mall | I like the idea of turning my contacts list into flash cards for me to study and memorize ^^ |
| 00:48.07 | scanlime | saw a couple faces I recognize from vmware, but nobody I really know... not sure if Chris decided to show up or not |
| 00:48.14 | darth_mall | hahahaha |
| 00:48.18 | darth_mall | ``In a way, it is similar to open source, except we are going to build a profitable enterprise.'' |
| 00:48.19 | scanlime | would have expected to see him around the WUSB sessions |
| 00:49.10 | darth_mall | it looks like the first part is a patch to svn... |
| 00:49.30 | scanlime | hehe, there's a CUPS test page on this table |
| 00:50.55 | scanlime | hm. more free food in 10 mins |
| 00:51.22 | scanlime | how's the senior project list this year? |
| 00:52.10 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10BZFlagG3D/tools/mapedit/ (13 files in 8 dirs): |
| 00:52.10 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: call an OSX platform when we are on the 'tosh |
| 00:52.10 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: add that linux thing since we can't leave anyone out. |
| 00:52.10 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: add file opening |
| 00:54.14 | purple_cow | darth_mall: it's the "we couldn't figure out a single project so we'll just list 17 things" one |
| 00:54.31 | darth_mall | purple_cow: wanna make a graph class for Flash? =D |
| 00:54.55 | purple_cow | heh |
| 00:55.43 | purple_cow | scanlime: http://www.cs.colorado.edu/~sanders/cs4308/selection/preview.html |
| 00:57.49 | darth_mall | wtf is 13? they want wikis for each building? |
| 00:58.08 | darth_mall | what is all this "virtual-space" they keep talking about? |
| 00:58.40 | darth_mall | do they mean "web pages"? |
| 01:00.49 | purple_cow | heh |
| 01:05.51 | lurgy | well, imagine you're a small piece of sediment, right, 60 million years ago |
| 01:07.10 | darth_mall | hrm |
| 01:07.21 | lurgy | and then |
| 01:07.22 | lurgy | um |
| 01:07.35 | lurgy | the objective is.. to.. become a big block of sedimentary rock? |
| 01:08.13 | lurgy | bigger than other blocks of sedimentary rock of course |
| 01:14.17 | darth_mall | hmm |
| 01:15.06 | darth_mall | if the ebuild accepts the ~x86 keyword, and not the ~amd64 keyword, does that mean I shouldn't try and build it? or were people just lazy when making the ebuilds? |
| 01:15.47 | purple_cow | probably means that the amd64 maintainers just haven't gotten around to try and build it |
| 01:16.05 | darth_mall | ok |
| 01:16.18 | darth_mall | so it hopefully won't destroy the universe or my computer |
| 01:16.32 | darth_mall | I suppose it's easy enough to fix if it does |
| 01:19.23 | purple_cow | but i can tell you where we're not. the universe |
| 01:20.09 | lurgy | hehe |
| 01:24.31 | darth_mall | there must be an easier way to get all those things into my package.unmask and package.keywords file |
| 01:24.42 | darth_mall | purple_cow: that's kinda what I was thinking |
| 01:24.46 | darth_mall | as one of the last choices |
| 01:26.17 | darth_mall | purple_cow: what does your list look like? |
| 01:27.12 | purple_cow | 11 is first |
| 01:27.28 | purple_cow | then i have 5, 44 and maybe 14, but i haven't ordered them yet |
| 01:28.36 | *** join/#tacobeam laodamas (n=cehoward@c-67-166-53-18.hsd1.co.comcast.net) |
| 01:28.44 | darth_mall | 2's kinda neat, but I don't know any TCL |
| 01:29.09 | purple_cow | TCL is really easy |
| 01:29.23 | purple_cow | and it probably wouldn't be hard to port to python ;) |
| 01:35.01 | darth_mall | welp, I've got 4 proejcts |
| 01:35.48 | purple_cow | which? |
| 01:36.34 | darth_mall | same as you |
| 01:36.49 | darth_mall | 11, 5, 44, 14 in that order |
| 01:44.01 | purple_cow | mebbe |
| 01:44.05 | purple_cow | we should get slimspace|away's input |
| 01:51.13 | *** join/#tacobeam JeffM2501 (n=jeffm@pdpc/supporter/sustaining/JeffM2501) |
| 01:58.37 | file[laptop] | why the hell am I thinking of buying a license for XP 64-bit? |
| 01:58.39 | scanlime | I'd advise staying away from Lockheed Martin and Sun as sponsors ;) |
| 01:58.50 | file[laptop] | my ethics are returning |
| 01:58.53 | scanlime | but you might get lucky... |
| 01:58.59 | file[laptop] | somebody hit me over the head with a physics book so they go away |
| 01:59.28 | purple_cow | scanlime: why sun? |
| 02:00.19 | scanlime | purple_cow: remember how my manager used to work at Sun, in Colorado? He just kinda disappeared and left for VMware. Not as badly disappeared as the lockmart guy, but still no fun |
| 02:00.26 | scanlime | doubt that's likely to repeat... |
| 02:00.31 | scanlime | but you can't be too careful |
| 02:00.45 | scanlime | also, sun's projects are silly! silly-cool sometimes, but still silly |
| 02:00.55 | scanlime | that reminds me |
| 02:01.17 | scanlime | this morning sun set up a booth across the street from the convention center with a big sign advertising that their dual-core stuff is available now not later :P |
| 02:01.52 | purple_cow | sun's the one sponsoring the 3d freevo UI one ;-) |
| 02:01.59 | scanlime | hah |
| 02:02.09 | scanlime | oh, there's a whole section for consumer electronicky stuff here |
| 02:02.45 | scanlime | there was one session on linux for consumer electronics.. mostly just a boring "Lookit my yet another linux distro and hacky build system!" but they had a cute demo of SDL running on their video chipset |
| 02:02.52 | scanlime | there's some really cute hardware here |
| 02:03.14 | scanlime | some new CPU for cell phones, still on a big breadboard, that can top 1 GHz yet still run really low-power |
| 02:03.25 | scanlime | lots of wireless set-top-box thingies that play video over the network |
| 02:03.41 | scanlime | and did I mention wireless USB? :) |
| 02:04.30 | scanlime | they were demoing their ultra-wideband radios using a crazy-fancy digital oscilloscope |
| 02:04.36 | scanlime | this scope runs Windows XP :P |
| 02:04.57 | scanlime | and they just hooked the input of the scope up to an antenna and plotted a spectrogram showing their frequency hopping and such |
| 02:05.00 | scanlime | I think it's a 16GHz scope |
| 02:06.21 | scanlime | ah well. I think it's time to hit the curry joint across the street then head home. I'm not too excited about the FB-DIMM themed party at 8:00.... |
| 02:07.08 | scanlime | I can understand having a free party at the bar across from the street at a conference.. but they have this very scary superhero-type guy on posters advertising fully buffered DRAM. Very scary... |
| 02:07.30 | scanlime | people shouldn't be that excited about DRAM |
| 02:07.33 | scanlime | USB on the other hand... |
| 02:07.50 | file[laptop] | we should go crazy over? |
| 02:08.02 | scanlime | small levels of craziness are acceptable |
| 02:08.08 | file[laptop] | ok |
| 02:08.10 | scanlime | no tolerance for DRAM craziness |
| 02:08.19 | file[laptop] | what about dual core craziness? |
| 02:08.26 | scanlime | lots of that around here too... |
| 02:08.29 | scanlime | and lots of handwaving |
| 02:08.41 | scanlime | no real numbers about their dual-core chips, just demos showing excel opening faster and such |
| 02:08.45 | scanlime | kinda silly |
| 02:09.21 | file[laptop] | dual core shouldn't really be used for that stuff |
| 02:09.36 | scanlime | well, it does help a lot more than you'd expect apparently |
| 02:09.44 | file[laptop] | we're going for a quad CPU box for work for our database server... with dual core |
| 02:09.48 | scanlime | and they have dual-core laptop chips now that use less power than older generation single-core chips |
| 02:10.22 | file[laptop] | we use... mssql for our database :) |
| 02:10.33 | scanlime | that's nice.. really... |
| 02:10.52 | file[laptop] | have fun |
| 02:12.56 | purple_cow | darth_mall: i think i'm going to list #2 as my 5th choice |
| 02:31.45 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10BZFlagG3D/ (6 files in 3 dirs): |
| 02:31.45 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: get mac build to build |
| 02:31.45 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: but watch it still crash like a horible pigdog |
| 02:31.59 | file[laptop] | JeffM2501: silly |
| 02:43.42 | darth_mall | purple_cow: have you sent off your e-mail? |
| 02:44.19 | purple_cow | no |
| 02:45.37 | darth_mall | ok |
| 02:45.42 | scanlime | yay, mystery meat curry |
| 02:46.17 | *** join/#tacobeam spooklight (n=jamie@69.238.196.91) |
| 02:48.23 | darth_mall | purple_cow: so the tentative verdict is 11, 5, 44, 14, 2 ? |
| 02:53.13 | purple_cow | yep |
| 02:53.46 | darth_mall | purple_cow: sounds good to me |
| 02:54.31 | purple_cow | ooh, looks like after project selection comes the most important assignment |
| 02:54.34 | purple_cow | project code name! |
| 02:55.18 | purple_cow | we should contact the sponsors of 11 in the next couple days and talk with them |
| 02:55.38 | darth_mall | k |
| 02:56.32 | purple_cow | because, as cool as it sounds, they might be assholes |
| 02:57.00 | darth_mall | that is always possible |
| 02:57.37 | scanlime | hmm |
| 02:57.42 | darth_mall | we should be the mongooses! that's a cool team name! |
| 02:58.12 | purple_cow | :D |
| 02:58.40 | purple_cow | time for more paranoia agent |
| 02:59.00 | ToyKeeper | Good show. |
| 02:59.08 | ToyKeeper | I love the kid who barfs math. |
| 02:59.27 | purple_cow | that was the last one i watched last night |
| 02:59.29 | purple_cow | that was hilarious |
| 02:59.38 | darth_mall | hmm |
| 02:59.43 | darth_mall | I need to get those from yo |
| 03:01.16 | ChipX86 | oh man |
| 03:01.21 | ChipX86 | you just can't make this stuff up |
| 03:01.22 | ChipX86 | Los Angeles - Sacha Baron Cohen aka Ali G was dunked in the sea by Pamela Anderson's bodyguards - after rugby-tackling the actress at her dogs' wedding. |
| 03:01.34 | darth_mall | wow |
| 03:02.11 | pagefault | google talk is cool |
| 03:02.13 | pagefault | it has built in voice |
| 03:02.25 | ChipX86 | http://www.seacoastonline.com/news/08232005/world/59160.htm |
| 03:02.26 | ChipX86 | beare. |
| 03:02.29 | ChipX86 | er, beware |
| 03:03.12 | file[laptop] | pagefault: yup |
| 03:03.57 | ChipX86 | ooohh |
| 03:04.00 | ChipX86 | Adam Savage is a farker |
| 03:05.30 | darth_mall | ChipX86: don't break anything |
| 03:05.35 | ChipX86 | ? |
| 03:05.45 | darth_mall | like your arm or something, don't break it |
| 03:05.54 | ChipX86 | okay |
| 03:06.24 | darth_mall | see. you were the last person to say something, and I'm getting sleepy and watching TV |
| 03:06.36 | darth_mall | which means nonsensical things related to the TV find their way to #tacobeam |
| 03:09.29 | kergoth | ~emulate peter |
| 03:09.30 | jbot | Chris, everything I say is a lie. Except that. And that. And that. And that. And that. An |
| 03:09.45 | darth_mall | hehe |
| 03:09.50 | darth_mall | when did jbot get -q'ed? |
| 03:09.54 | kergoth | dunno |
| 03:09.58 | kergoth | scanline said it was a long time ago |
| 03:10.00 | kergoth | but i find that unlikely |
| 03:11.10 | pagefault | kergoth, whats that addon that tells you how much stuff sells to vendors |
| 03:11.35 | kergoth | pagefault: there are a number of them |
| 03:11.44 | *** mode/#tacobeam [+o purple_cow] by ChanServ |
| 03:11.44 | kergoth | pagefault: auctioneer has an internal vendor price database that can show it |
| 03:11.45 | *** mode/#tacobeam [+b #tacobeam!*@*] by purple_cow |
| 03:11.47 | purple_cow | eek |
| 03:11.51 | *** mode/#tacobeam [-b #tacobeam!*@*] by purple_cow |
| 03:11.55 | *** mode/#tacobeam [+b #tacobeam!*@*] by purple_cow |
| 03:11.58 | purple_cow | arg! |
| 03:11.58 | pagefault | ah ok |
| 03:12.00 | *** mode/#tacobeam [-b #tacobeam!*@*] by purple_cow |
| 03:12.02 | *** mode/#tacobeam [-o purple_cow] by purple_cow |
| 03:12.06 | kergoth | pagefault: or you can use SellValue or KC_Items sellvalue, which can learn the sell prices of things |
| 03:12.09 | kergoth | which is a bit niftier |
| 03:13.14 | darth_mall | purple_cow: when are our meetings with Liz? Mondays at 16:00? |
| 03:13.16 | scanlime | i want to watch paranoia agent on my phone while waiting for the train. IRC isn't enough. |
| 03:13.37 | darth_mall | scanlime: you can do my dishes while you're waiting ^^ |
| 03:13.51 | pagefault | what about the one that lets you preview items |
| 03:14.10 | kergoth | preview? |
| 03:14.53 | purple_cow | darth_mall: mondays at 3 |
| 03:15.48 | darth_mall | hmm |
| 03:15.52 | darth_mall | I just noticed, the rounded corners on window borders are ugly in the new metacity |
| 03:17.54 | darth_mall | hmm |
| 03:18.03 | darth_mall | I think that's Deanna Troy |
| 03:20.20 | lurgy | hehe |
| 03:21.45 | purple_cow | man this is a weird show |
| 03:21.50 | purple_cow | i'm really wondering where it's going |
| 03:22.42 | scanlime | darth_mall: if you invent a way for me to do your dishes on the train using only a phone, sure |
| 03:22.49 | darth_mall | hmmm |
| 03:23.52 | nullpuppy | still no vmware beta news email :( |
| 03:24.03 | ChipX86 | might be tomorrow. Srinivas said tonight or tomorrow |
| 03:24.14 | nullpuppy | ok |
| 03:25.04 | scanlime | teledishes will be so much cooler than telemedicine |
| 03:25.32 | laodamas | SAR==synthetic aperture radar;MTI=moving target indicator |
| 03:26.07 | darth_mall | scanlime: is telemedicine where you rub cell phones on your body to cure diseases? |
| 03:27.13 | purple_cow | a plan with no drawbacks |
| 03:27.56 | scanlime | chipx86: lots of vmware running on experimental intel silicon at IDF |
| 03:28.08 | ChipX86 | neat |
| 03:28.53 | scanlime | and they had signs mentioning ms and xen support |
| 03:29.33 | scanlime | but all the demos i saw were vmware |
| 03:29.49 | ChipX86 | yay :) |
| 03:29.59 | scanlime | woo. one bar |
| 03:30.10 | nullpuppy | bwahahah, i love comcast... |
| 03:30.19 | nullpuppy | they sent me a flyer for cable internet.. |
| 03:30.35 | nullpuppy | its got stickers on one side to.. like.. 'hotrod' my modem :) |
| 03:31.17 | scanlime | hah |
| 03:31.42 | scanlime | yay, five bars |
| 03:32.12 | scanlime | yay for killing my phone battery |
| 03:33.15 | scanlime | my next phone will definitely have a bluetooth keyboard |
| 03:34.28 | scanlime | maybe a browser that dies less |
| 03:34.42 | ChipX86 | nullpuppy: WoW? |
| 03:34.50 | ChipX86 | and how's the beer going? |
| 03:35.32 | nullpuppy | its getting.. darker, (although its looking clearer too so..) I think its going well :) |
| 03:35.42 | ChipX86 | nice |
| 03:35.55 | nullpuppy | and hmm.. I was gonna try out dungeon siege 2, but sure, I guess I could play WoW for a bit :) |
| 03:37.15 | purple_cow | hehe |
| 03:37.17 | purple_cow | radar man is cool |
| 03:37.30 | ChipX86 | widgets/Canvas.cs(63) error CS1502: The best overloaded match for method 'System.Drawing.Graphics Gtk.DotNet.Graphics.FromDrawable (Gdk.Drawable)' has some invalid arguments |
| 03:37.32 | ChipX86 | widgets/Canvas.cs(63) error CS1503: Argument 0: Cannot convert from 'Gdk.Pixmap' to 'Gdk.Drawable' |
| 03:37.35 | ChipX86 | :( |
| 03:37.38 | file | dejavu |
| 03:37.43 | ChipX86 | purple_cow is alive now |
| 03:37.49 | purple_cow | lies! |
| 03:37.49 | purple_cow | what? |
| 03:38.00 | ChipX86 | I'm using the same thing you're using with the backing parameter |
| 03:38.06 | ChipX86 | if I do mBacking as Gdk.Drawable, I get: |
| 03:38.17 | ChipX86 | widgets/Canvas.cs(63) error CS1503: Argument 0: Cannot convert from 'Gdk.Drawable' to 'Gdk.Drawable' |
| 03:38.27 | nullpuppy | haha |
| 03:38.32 | ChipX86 | at which point I just sob a little bit |
| 03:38.36 | purple_cow | is this in svn? |
| 03:38.37 | nullpuppy | :( |
| 03:38.45 | ChipX86 | nope |
| 03:38.54 | ChipX86 | yours compiles. huh. |
| 03:39.05 | purple_cow | can you commit so i can try building? |
| 03:39.18 | ChipX86 | yeah, one sec |
| 03:39.24 | ChipX86 | going to look at one more thing |
| 03:43.23 | CIA-5 | osiris-misc: 03chipx86 * r201 10taco/ (4 files in 3 dirs): Add a broken canvas. It doesn't even compile. Who needs working code anyway? |
| 03:43.25 | ChipX86 | going to head out in a few |
| 03:43.45 | nullpuppy | I thought you were gonna play WoW :) |
| 03:43.49 | ChipX86 | that's what I mean |
| 03:43.51 | ChipX86 | head out to play WoW |
| 03:43.55 | nullpuppy | oh, ok :) |
| 03:44.39 | purple_cow | radar man is so cool |
| 03:44.53 | ChipX86 | purple_cow: feel free to look into it. I'll bbl |
| 03:45.13 | nullpuppy | i'll be hopping on WoW in about 5 minutes |
| 03:45.30 | ChipX86 | widgets/Canvas.cs(62) error CS1501: No overload for method `FromDrawable' takes `1' arguments |
| 03:45.34 | ChipX86 | that's weird. |
| 03:46.14 | ChipX86 | it might be my setup here |
| 03:46.19 | ChipX86 | except I can compile fyre |
| 03:46.21 | ChipX86 | *shrug* |
| 03:46.23 | purple_cow | ChipX86: i'm seeing the same thing |
| 03:46.27 | ChipX86 | huh |
| 03:47.40 | ChipX86 | cursed code |
| 03:47.47 | ChipX86 | haven't had that in a while |
| 03:48.50 | ChipX86 | same if I pass GdkWindow |
| 03:50.28 | scanlime | i need to ask for remote access |
| 03:50.43 | ChipX86 | yep |
| 03:50.49 | ChipX86 | bbs |
| 03:51.21 | scanlime | dont want to drive or bike to work just toget email |
| 04:16.01 | pagefault | whats up |
| 04:16.06 | file | not much, u? |
| 04:16.20 | pagefault | looking for something to watch |
| 04:16.27 | file | there be nothing |
| 04:17.32 | pagefault | silly TBS cutting out boobies |
| 04:17.43 | file | 'tsk 'tsk |
| 04:20.51 | purple_cow | ChipX86: i really don't know. i can't see any difference between fyre's stuff and yours |
| 04:23.16 | purple_cow | at least in terms of build environment |
| 04:26.01 | purple_cow | yeah, no clue |
| 04:26.05 | purple_cow | probably worth asking #mono |
| 04:32.37 | darth_mall | hehe |
| 04:32.39 | darth_mall | kevin bacon |
| 04:36.04 | pagefault | heh |
| 04:36.09 | pagefault | ~emulate peter |
| 04:36.12 | jbot | Chris, everything I say is a lie. Except that. And that. And that. And that. And that. An |
| 04:49.07 | purple_cow | wow, ok, so that ended in a way i completely didn't expect |
| 04:57.10 | darth_mall | someone made firefox sad |
| 04:57.18 | darth_mall | and I think it was m |
| 04:57.21 | darth_mall | erm... me |
| 04:59.11 | purple_cow | hmm |
| 04:59.18 | purple_cow | fembot needs a pretty boot thing |
| 05:00.21 | darth_mall | it should be a flower |
| 05:00.27 | darth_mall | a flower with a bunny rabbit inside |
| 05:28.33 | darth_mall | YAY! Ajay is returned! |
| 05:28.52 | pagefault | ranch |
| 05:44.41 | purple_cow | with this TV and svideo i can actually read the text on fembot's console |
| 05:44.49 | darth_mall | cool |
| 05:47.32 | lurgy | hehe |
| 05:47.49 | darth_mall | hmm... chocolate milk |
| 05:54.07 | scanlime | hah |
| 05:54.13 | scanlime | seems to work fine... |
| 06:10.03 | purple_cow | woo |
| 06:10.11 | purple_cow | ok, having a boot splash is freaky and cool |
| 08:10.00 | purple_cow | ughhhhhh |
| 08:10.15 | purple_cow | this music history course is going to suck |
| 08:10.42 | purple_cow | there are a bunch of really long readings, from lots of different books, each of which there is a single copy on reserve in the library |
| 08:10.44 | purple_cow | *&@^#&%*(!(&@%^ |
| 08:12.13 | rioter | hehe |
| 08:13.12 | purple_cow | granted, there are only 20 people enrolled, but still |
| 08:13.36 | purple_cow | it will not be possible for 20 people to read 3 chapters out of a single copy of a book in 2 days |
| 08:14.10 | ChipX86 | g'night |
| 08:14.12 | purple_cow | especially when those people are music majors, and unaccustomed to reading |
| 08:14.22 | purple_cow | 'night |
| 08:14.38 | ChipX86|Sleep | btw, awesome -> http://www.google.com/support/talk/bin/answer.py?answer=24073 |
| 08:15.10 | ChipX86|Sleep | but boo for them using gif |
| 08:16.38 | purple_cow | ooh, awesome |
| 08:16.41 | purple_cow | gaim lost all my settings |
| 08:16.45 | ChipX86|Sleep | ack |
| 08:16.45 | ChipX86|Sleep | how? |
| 08:17.54 | purple_cow | dunno |
| 08:18.12 | purple_cow | just fired it up to see if any gmail account worked on google talk, and it didn't have any of my settings or accounts |
| 08:18.31 | CIA-5 | osiris-misc: 03chipx86 * r202 10taco/ (ChangeLog configure.ac): Let taco compile. The problem was that we were using gnome-sharp and rsvg-sharp, which brought in the old gtk# and completely mucked things up. |
| 08:18.34 | ChipX86|Sleep | that's weird |
| 08:19.32 | purple_cow | ahhhhh |
| 08:19.47 | CIA-5 | osiris-misc: 03chipx86 * r203 10taco/ (ChangeLog configure.ac): And bring back rsvg-sharp-2.0! |
| 08:19.57 | ChipX86|Sleep | one less mystery |
| 08:20.48 | purple_cow | hah, so metacity maximizes taco by default, but nothing else |
| 08:20.54 | ChipX86|Sleep | hah |
| 08:21.43 | ChipX86|Sleep | Google Talk may be just what is needed to make jabber wide-spread |
| 08:21.49 | ChipX86|Sleep | not that I'm a big jabber fan |
| 08:21.58 | ChipX86|Sleep | but hopefully google will start to push for avatars and such |
| 08:24.15 | purple_cow | jabber is dumb |
| 08:24.22 | purple_cow | meta-IM is just about the silliest thing i can think of |
| 08:24.29 | ChipX86|Sleep | that part of jabber is dumb |
| 08:24.35 | ChipX86|Sleep | the multi-server stuff... iffy |
| 08:24.44 | ChipX86|Sleep | being able to run it inside a corporate network.. priceless |
| 08:24.56 | ChipX86|Sleep | I still prefer AIM |
| 08:26.31 | ChipX86|Sleep | yay, a new set of problems |
| 08:28.06 | ChipX86|Sleep | ah, was just missing gdiplus |
| 08:28.37 | ChipX86|Sleep | why is that notebook so huge |
| 08:29.19 | ChipX86|Sleep | hmm, the homogenous setting |
| 08:32.33 | CIA-5 | osiris-misc: 03chipx86 * r204 10taco/ (4 files in 3 dirs): |
| 08:32.33 | CIA-5 | osiris-misc: - It still sucks, but make the notebook less wide. |
| 08:32.33 | CIA-5 | osiris-misc: - Add the canvas. |
| 08:32.35 | ChipX86|Sleep | ok. bed. |
| 08:34.51 | purple_cow | 'night |
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| 13:07.42 | file[laptop] | ... |
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| 13:49.14 | file[laptop] | lurgyness! |
| 14:11.57 | kergoth_ | morning |
| 14:12.22 | file[laptop] | kergoth! |
| 14:19.43 | kergoth_ | bleh! |
| 14:19.49 | kergoth_ | ~mornings |
| 14:19.50 | jbot | Mornings MUST be destroyed! (see also http://www.destroymornings.com/) |
| 14:19.50 | file[laptop] | why bleh? |
| 14:52.35 | gonkulator | morning slimspace |
| 14:54.54 | kergoth_ | ah ha! i think i found the bug in this code |
| 14:54.59 | file[laptop] | yay |
| 14:55.32 | slimspace | morning gonkulator |
| 14:56.32 | kergoth_ | yep, that was the main bug |
| 14:56.51 | kergoth_ | this code was forgetting to convert from host to network byte order when setting the port parameter in the conntrack manip structure |
| 14:57.49 | gonkulator | congrats kergoth_ |
| 14:57.58 | kergoth_ | heh |
| 14:58.02 | file[laptop] | slimspace: then don't, but don't blame me when you miss something |
| 14:58.10 | kergoth_ | dead simple code, no challenge, just smacking it around until it works |
| 14:58.11 | kergoth_ | but oh well |
| 14:59.20 | gonkulator | slimspace: do what I do when you don't want to go to class |
| 14:59.42 | slimspace | gonkulator: what's that? |
| 14:59.46 | gonkulator | slimspace: sit in the back and make silly noises, while saying silly things on IRC |
| 14:59.55 | slimspace | hehe, I do that anyway |
| 15:00.30 | gonkulator | waitaminute |
| 15:00.36 | gonkulator | its a physics class you don't want to go to |
| 15:00.49 | slimspace | two of 'em actually |
| 15:01.05 | slimspace | I just don't want to be awake |
| 15:01.13 | gonkulator | understandable |
| 15:01.31 | slimspace | besides, these classes are analytical mechanics and E&M 1 |
| 15:01.44 | gonkulator | E&M? |
| 15:01.51 | slimspace | Electricity and magnetism |
| 15:01.56 | gonkulator | oh... |
| 15:02.25 | file[laptop] | out for delivery? not out for delivery... out for delivery? not out for delivery... |
| 15:02.41 | gonkulator | file[laptop]: thats how it goes some time, try to keep your ships |
| 15:03.19 | slimspace | both classes are way to math-heavy for this early (or with this little sleep, for that matter) |
| 15:03.36 | slimspace | but at least we're just doing review |
| 15:20.18 | kergoth_ | there we go, fixed the other bug that bothered me for most of yesterday |
| 15:30.26 | kergoth_ | wowie, look at the mockup of a gui for the bootup menu on the next release of the openzaurus/familiar/etc distro |
| 15:30.27 | kergoth_ | http://www.vanille.de/temp/efl-altboot.png |
| 15:30.29 | kergoth_ | perty! |
| 16:04.11 | darth_mall | bleh |
| 16:04.17 | darth_mall | goddamn clock on my laptop is still wring |
| 16:04.20 | darth_mall | s/wring/wrong/ |
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| 16:48.25 | purple_cow | darth_mall: tried changing UTC to local in /etc/conf.d/clock? |
| 16:48.31 | darth_mall | yep |
| 16:48.48 | darth_mall | my hwclock was wrong for some reason when my computer booted |
| 16:49.06 | purple_cow | yay! |
| 16:51.01 | darth_mall | hah! |
| 16:51.22 | darth_mall | I just finished my first software engineering lab, and the lab doesn't actually start for another 10 minutes |
| 16:51.31 | darth_mall | take that, Java! |
| 16:51.38 | darth_mall | and I did it all without eclipse =P |
| 16:52.32 | file | darth_mall: so what are you going to do instead? |
| 16:52.42 | darth_mall | go to lab, finish it quickly, then go do something useful |
| 16:52.51 | file | excellent |
| 16:52.52 | file | hey Chip |
| 16:57.22 | darth_mall | ugh |
| 16:57.26 | darth_mall | the machines in this lab are XP |
| 16:59.11 | darth_mall | wtf |
| 16:59.48 | darth_mall | god I hate these labs |
| 17:00.33 | purple_cow | hehehehe |
| 17:00.35 | purple_cow | http://www.tomshardware.com/hardnews/20050823_151434.html |
| 17:01.42 | darth_mall | seriously |
| 17:01.55 | darth_mall | I'm in a lab at CU and I can't get to the fucking class website |
| 17:01.57 | purple_cow | i love that bruce told us to protect the sponsor email address at least as well as ITS does |
| 17:02.15 | purple_cow | err, add a "list" in there somewhere |
| 17:02.50 | darth_mall | oh my god I hate you ITS |
| 17:02.52 | darth_mall | grrr |
| 17:03.13 | purple_cow | :( |
| 17:04.06 | darth_mall | screw this |
| 17:08.44 | darth_mall | ok, maybe it wasn't the lab computer |
| 17:08.46 | darth_mall | apparently the site is down |
| 17:08.58 | purple_cow | yay! |
| 17:09.10 | darth_mall | I love that they put in these gigantic monitors in the labs, and they're so big you can't see the screen at all |
| 17:09.19 | darth_mall | erm... the screen the projector is pointed at |
| 17:09.42 | darth_mall | unless you're in the aisle, it is impossible to see whatever the TA is projecting |
| 17:10.23 | ChipX86 | yay galago patches from ross |
| 17:10.54 | ChipX86 | yay gossip galago support from ross |
| 17:11.54 | ChipX86 | hmm, the 2005FPW is back at $443. Hpoe it hits $359 again |
| 17:14.20 | darth_mall | booooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooring |
| 17:19.57 | CIA-5 | galago: 03chipx86 * r2123 10libgalago/ (AUTHORS ChangeLog libgalago/galago-person.c): Patch by Ross Burton to fix the hashing of AccountCacheKeys in GalagoPerson. The original code was still attempting to get the hash of strings and compare them. |
| 17:19.58 | purple_cow | SEM&T? |
| 17:21.23 | darth_mall | yeah |
| 17:21.24 | ChipX86 | SEM&T? |
| 17:21.35 | darth_mall | we are now doing a review of object-oriented programming |
| 17:21.53 | purple_cow | "software engineering methods and tools" |
| 17:21.57 | purple_cow | aka "how to write a makefile" |
| 17:22.32 | kergoth_ | lol |
| 17:22.35 | purple_cow | though it sounds like darth_mall's particular class is closer to "OOP in java" |
| 17:22.59 | purple_cow | i guess software engineering and OOP are synonymous, right? |
| 17:23.49 | darth_mall | apparently |
| 17:24.34 | purple_cow | sweet |
| 17:24.46 | purple_cow | better than the intro to OOP we got in a sr. level class ;) |
| 17:25.20 | darth_mall | omfg! he's explaining what the public keyword means |
| 17:26.27 | darth_mall | now we get to learn what the static keyword does |
| 17:26.33 | numist | ... |
| 17:26.49 | kergoth_ | haha |
| 17:26.51 | kergoth_ | fun |
| 17:27.43 | purple_cow | darth_mall: at that point i'd just walk out :P |
| 17:27.52 | darth_mall | I have to stick around to turn in the lab |
| 17:29.24 | darth_mall | the best part is, the reading we were supposed to do before lab covered the exact same thing |
| 17:31.24 | purple_cow | Agh! Tentacles! And hovering! |
| 17:33.18 | numist | I want to go to darth_mall's school... our classes were actually hard |
| 17:33.20 | numist | :P |
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| 17:33.34 | Veight | morning |
| 17:33.40 | kergoth_ | morning |
| 17:34.06 | file | hey hey |
| 17:34.48 | darth_mall | numist: some of my classes are pretty hard |
| 17:35.00 | darth_mall | compiler construction is not going to be easy, and chaotic dynamics was pretty tough |
| 17:35.38 | purple_cow | chaotic dynamics was by far the hardest class i've had (just in terms of being able to keep up), but was also by far the best :) |
| 17:35.49 | kergoth_ | hmm.. food.. |
| 17:35.57 | kergoth_ | should get some of that |
| 17:36.25 | purple_cow | darth_mall: hmm. you need to add the "Jesus says" to your signature ;) |
| 17:36.34 | kergoth_ | jesus says? |
| 17:36.51 | purple_cow | http://stewped.com/air/view.php?date=2004-05-15 |
| 17:37.19 | kergoth_ | hah |
| 17:37.24 | darth_mall | purple_cow: I'd be afraid of offending someone, since that e-mail is not strictly personal |
| 17:37.41 | purple_cow | hehe |
| 17:37.44 | numist | nice |
| 17:38.32 | kergoth_ | i should buy some tshirthell shirts |
| 17:38.34 | darth_mall | heh... I think the TA is now trying to explain why main() goes inside a class definition |
| 17:38.41 | kergoth_ | my attire isnt nearly offensive enough |
| 17:39.04 | darth_mall | omg |
| 17:39.07 | Veight | yay stale popcorn, boo stale popcorn with too much popcorn salt on it |
| 17:39.17 | darth_mall | ``Ok. Let's talk about a constructor. What is a constructor for?'' |
| 17:39.21 | kergoth_ | hahaha |
| 17:39.38 | kergoth_ | ooh, ooh, does it construct? |
| 17:39.54 | darth_mall | I think so... |
| 17:39.54 | darth_mall | it's hard to say, really |
| 17:39.57 | Veight | no it makes sandwhiches |
| 17:40.04 | numist | mmm sammitches |
| 17:40.29 | numist | darth_mall: they should let you test out of such classes |
| 17:41.13 | darth_mall | well, since I got into UI Design (yay!) I don't think I need this class, strictly speaking |
| 17:41.38 | darth_mall | but, if I pass everything I'm enrolled in this semester, I only have to take 7 credits next week |
| 17:41.43 | gonkulator | drop is your friend |
| 17:41.46 | darth_mall | lol |
| 17:41.49 | darth_mall | not next week, next semester |
| 17:41.51 | numist | next *week*? |
| 17:41.55 | numist | :o |
| 17:42.17 | Veight | kergoth has certified mail! |
| 17:43.53 | purple_cow | darth_mall: cool |
| 17:44.25 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03evan * r8825 10xchat-gnome/plugins/notification/ (menu.c menu.h): |
| 17:44.25 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: Add the channel hash table to the ChannelMenu class. Implement the dispose and |
| 17:44.25 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: finalize functions for ChannelMenu. |
| 17:45.13 | darth_mall | heh |
| 17:47.11 | darth_mall | my god eclipse is slow |
| 17:47.24 | gonkulator | anybody want a SBW-241 optical drive (DVD-ROM/CD-RW) |
| 17:49.22 | gonkulator | you want it? |
| 17:49.48 | purple_cow | mmm |
| 17:50.26 | purple_cow | having a boot splash on fembot makes me so happy |
| 17:50.41 | purple_cow | except it looks like i just broke my kernel on it |
| 17:51.28 | darth_mall | yay! all done =P |
| 17:51.57 | numist | gonkulator: not particularly, I should unload a few of my drives meself |
| 17:52.44 | gonkulator | yeah, basement cleaning is fun :) |
| 17:52.51 | gonkulator | hard to know what all will end up being found down here |
| 17:53.32 | numist | ooh airplane stuff |
| 17:53.43 | numist | shoot, I need to unload a lot of machines... Ive got 10 sparcstations I need to find homes for |
| 17:53.48 | numist | theyre not really light enough to ship though |
| 17:54.04 | ChipX86 | stupid vncviewer |
| 17:56.11 | darth_mall | bleh |
| 17:56.12 | darth_mall | IDEs |
| 17:57.30 | ChipX86 | woah |
| 17:57.37 | ChipX86 | they didn't lose my mail in the transition |
| 17:58.13 | purple_cow | hurray for having a TV that i can read the console on |
| 17:59.11 | darth_mall | hehe |
| 17:59.58 | darth_mall | purple_cow: thanks for contacting the Sun folks about the project |
| 18:00.49 | purple_cow | certainly a lot easier than dragging fembot across the room and finding an extra VGA cable |
| 18:05.52 | ChipX86 | numist: did you get a beta e-mailyet? |
| 18:08.01 | nullpuppy | no beta email for me yet :( |
| 18:08.34 | pagefault | emaul |
| 18:08.59 | kergoth_ | nullpuppy: hey, fyi, in wow, some guy took myinventory and mybank and consolodated the common code and removed the behavioral differences. he also made them both use KC_Items (which we already have loaded) to store the player inventory and bank contents, rather than duplicating that info, and adds the ability to view your alts inventory as well as bank contents. |
| 18:09.04 | kergoth_ | quite nifty. |
| 18:09.19 | nullpuppy | nice |
| 18:09.31 | file | kergoth_: back to work, slacker! |
| 18:09.45 | kergoth_ | :( |
| 18:10.13 | kergoth_ | yay for asking a question of the netfilter devs and having their suggested answer be what i was already working on doing, in the same way |
| 18:10.14 | pagefault | WoW is so cool just for the fact you can script it :) |
| 18:10.18 | kergoth_ | indeed |
| 18:11.02 | ChipX86 | yep |
| 18:11.45 | ChipX86 | 11:05:47 < DoDver> is it possible to recieve a licence for linux |
| 18:11.45 | ChipX86 | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:11.45 | ChipX86 | 11:05:56 < DoDver> or am I just dreaming? |
| 18:12.04 | kergoth_ | hahaha |
| 18:12.07 | kergoth_ | wheres that from? |
| 18:12.10 | ChipX86 | #vmware |
| 18:12.20 | kergoth_ | silly people |
| 18:12.43 | ChipX86 | assuming my new toy responds to what I said |
| 18:12.47 | kergoth_ | new toy, you say? |
| 18:12.55 | ChipX86 | DoDver :) |
| 18:13.07 | nullpuppy | haha |
| 18:13.34 | kergoth_ | oh, hehe |
| 18:13.39 | ChipX86 | cool, the new mail server spits errors at me |
| 18:15.01 | kergoth_ | netlink is spiffy. |
| 18:19.45 | kergoth_ | hmm |
| 18:25.48 | purple_cow | hahahaha |
| 18:25.52 | purple_cow | How will conflicts be resolved? |
| 18:25.52 | purple_cow | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:26.38 | kergoth_ | ooh, mud wrestle |
| 18:31.07 | kergoth_ | mmmm, mocha |
| 18:45.43 | purple_cow | hehe |
| 18:45.45 | purple_cow | today's PA is good |
| 18:53.32 | kergoth_ | scanlime: whats the name of that really nice svn trigger app again, the one that can do email, cia, etc |
| 18:54.45 | purple_cow | kergoth_: iirc there's a link to it on the CIA clients page |
| 18:55.02 | kergoth_ | ah, cool |
| 19:15.47 | purple_cow | mmmm sigur ros |
| 19:30.57 | ChipX86 | mmm chinese |
| 19:31.17 | ChipX86 | kergoth_: it was so funny in the instance yesterday |
| 19:31.21 | ChipX86 | you know that rod i wanted? |
| 19:31.38 | kergoth_ | i was watching tony's machine :) |
| 19:31.42 | ChipX86 | ah :) |
| 19:31.42 | kergoth_ | you got both the rod and the shoulders |
| 19:31.44 | kergoth_ | that was sweet |
| 19:31.46 | ChipX86 | and then rolled for the chest |
| 19:31.47 | ChipX86 | 99 :) |
| 19:31.50 | kergoth_ | hehe |
| 19:31.51 | ChipX86 | even though the chest was for everbody |
| 19:31.58 | ChipX86 | the other guy was not happy I imagine |
| 19:32.16 | kergoth_ | so everybody got the scarlet key from the chest, i take it |
| 19:32.18 | kergoth_ | :) |
| 19:32.29 | kergoth_ | one of my favorite instances |
| 19:32.38 | ChipX86 | we need your help next time |
| 19:32.56 | ChipX86 | yay, fortune cookies for dessert. :P |
| 19:32.59 | kergoth_ | hehe |
| 19:33.17 | darth_mall | kergoth_: next time you're looking over Veight's shoulder as he plays, make sure and criticize everything he does ^^ |
| 19:33.20 | darth_mall | it makes it more interesting |
| 19:33.25 | kergoth_ | hehe |
| 19:33.36 | ChipX86 | uh oh |
| 19:33.40 | kergoth_ | yay sideseat drivin^Wplaying |
| 19:33.42 | ChipX86 | people are pirating in #vmware |
| 19:33.46 | kergoth_ | eep |
| 19:35.05 | kergoth_ | hmm, hope i get paid this week |
| 19:42.21 | pagefault | mmm beer |
| 19:42.55 | pagefault | http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=25461 |
| 19:42.55 | pagefault | haha |
| 19:42.59 | ChipX86 | hah |
| 19:43.14 | ChipX86 | stupid people in #vmware |
| 19:53.32 | purple_cow | darth_mall: i was thinking maybe we could propose a fight as a way of deciding who gets the sun project |
| 19:53.36 | purple_cow | 'cuz i bet we could take them |
| 19:54.50 | purple_cow | speaking of which, i assume you consent to me saying we want 11, 5 and 44, right? |
| 19:56.03 | ChipX86 | a guy is coming in for an interview Friday, so a couple of us are going to bring him by beer bash, get him alcohol and snacks, and then play video games with him |
| 19:57.31 | darth_mall | purple_cow: I believe those were my top 3 as well, so that is fine by me |
| 19:58.10 | purple_cow | right |
| 19:58.14 | darth_mall | yeah |
| 19:58.17 | darth_mall | that's fine by me |
| 19:58.17 | purple_cow | 44 was the atmospheric icing one |
| 19:58.20 | darth_mall | oh yeah |
| 19:58.34 | darth_mall | yeah, that's fine |
| 19:59.17 | purple_cow | slimspace|away's listed on the page with the same choices as us, but since i haven't heard from him since yesterday afternoon, i'd like to confirm things before i send off our preferences |
| 20:04.45 | pagefault | how goes your brewing nullpuppy? |
| 20:06.14 | purple_cow | oh sweet |
| 20:06.19 | purple_cow | i think owen just fixed the libsexy bug |
| 20:06.23 | ChipX86 | oohhh |
| 20:06.26 | ChipX86 | awesome |
| 20:06.29 | purple_cow | ``Underline was being rendered 1024 times too big in both directions.'' |
| 20:06.43 | ChipX86 | I saw :D |
| 20:06.44 | purple_cow | that'd do it :) |
| 20:06.55 | ChipX86 | libsexy is just so much more sexy now, because it fixed a regression! |
| 20:06.59 | ChipX86 | or found one |
| 20:07.25 | pagefault | I love you vmware |
| 20:07.41 | ChipX86 | what'd it break? |
| 20:08.04 | pagefault | nah I just love it so much, I can test my code on so many OSes in a short period of time |
| 20:08.08 | ChipX86 | oh :) |
| 20:08.13 | ChipX86 | you were on the beta program last year, right? |
| 20:08.15 | pagefault | nope |
| 20:08.17 | ChipX86 | er, last whatever |
| 20:08.18 | ChipX86 | oh |
| 20:08.30 | ChipX86 | interested? |
| 20:08.52 | pagefault | sure |
| 20:09.17 | ChipX86 | ok, just need a little e-mail with full name and preferred e-mail address |
| 20:09.27 | pagefault | Eric Pearson |
| 20:09.28 | pagefault | pagefault@gmail.com |
| 20:09.36 | ChipX86 | or I guess that works too |
| 20:09.43 | pagefault | what? |
| 20:09.45 | ChipX86 | nothing :) |
| 20:09.46 | pagefault | hehe |
| 20:09.52 | pagefault | I don't care if people know my name and e-mail |
| 20:09.54 | pagefault | big deal :) |
| 20:09.59 | purple_cow | yeehaw. FIXED |
| 20:10.08 | ChipX86 | purple_cow: YES! |
| 20:10.16 | pagefault | if someone wanted to find out that information they could with a little help from google |
| 20:10.27 | ChipX86 | pagefault: yeah, same |
| 20:10.27 | pagefault | but thanks ChipX86 |
| 20:11.04 | purple_cow | of course, now they need to cut a new release and gentoo needs to get it in portage |
| 20:12.04 | pagefault | hehe I like that about gentoo though |
| 20:12.10 | pagefault | you don't have to wait months for proper packages |
| 20:13.41 | purple_cow | sometimes you do |
| 20:14.06 | purple_cow | i'm pretty shocked that they put gnome 2.11 in the tree |
| 20:15.07 | pagefault | wow yeah |
| 20:15.20 | pagefault | I used 2.10 before it was released and it was pretty bumpy so I am sure 2.11 won't be much better |
| 20:19.43 | darth_mall | bleh |
| 20:20.04 | darth_mall | I need the last 4 digits of my dad's social security # to get our verizon account number so that cingular can transfer the number |
| 20:20.33 | ChipX86 | just guess. I mean, how many possibilities could it be? |
| 20:20.49 | purple_cow | hehe |
| 20:20.54 | purple_cow | 1000? :) |
| 20:21.14 | ChipX86 | there's only 4 digits. It can't be that many |
| 20:21.25 | pagefault | I wish you could do that here |
| 20:21.44 | darth_mall | grr |
| 20:21.49 | darth_mall | so I found his social |
| 20:21.50 | purple_cow | err, 10000 |
| 20:22.10 | ChipX86 | haha |
| 20:22.18 | darth_mall | but the only way to get into the account info is to have them reset the damn PIN |
| 20:22.25 | darth_mall | they won't just give me the existing one |
| 20:22.57 | darth_mall | I suppose dad can always just reset it again the next time he needs in |
| 20:22.57 | purple_cow | darth_mall: any reason i shouldn't cut an 0.5-rc2 |
| 20:22.59 | purple_cow | ? |
| 20:23.06 | darth_mall | purple_cow: not that I can think of |
| 20:24.30 | purple_cow | cool |
| 20:25.58 | darth_mall | I'd like to try and finish the menu stuff for the notification plugin before 0.5 though ^^ |
| 20:26.13 | ChipX86 | nooooooo |
| 20:26.15 | ChipX86 | Copyleft is gone |
| 20:26.24 | darth_mall | ok |
| 20:26.28 | darth_mall | time to go see about this phone nonsense |
| 20:27.00 | ChipX86 | gah that sucks |
| 20:27.24 | scanlime | yay |
| 20:27.34 | kergoth_ | what book? |
| 20:27.36 | ChipX86 | which? |
| 20:27.38 | scanlime | with a 15% discount off the price Amazon had it |
| 20:27.45 | scanlime | it's Analog Device's op-amp design guide |
| 20:27.49 | kergoth_ | i often buy my technical books at bookpool.com |
| 20:27.55 | ChipX86 | *sigh* that makes me so sad |
| 20:27.55 | kergoth_ | usually substantially cheaper than amazon and others |
| 20:28.00 | ChipX86 | I loved Copyleft |
| 20:28.09 | ChipX86 | bought my first geek shirts there, and Jenna's first penguin shirts |
| 20:28.16 | scanlime | yeah :( |
| 20:28.18 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r8826 10xchat-gnome/buildsystem.diff: bump version |
| 20:28.47 | kergoth_ | i wonder if i have a copy of steven's tcp/ip networking book somewhere |
| 20:28.52 | kergoth_ | s/steven's/stevens'/ |
| 20:29.09 | scanlime | wow.. 2 hour session at 2:30 on intel's virtualization hardware |
| 20:29.21 | ChipX86 | when are you coming back here? |
| 20:29.31 | scanlime | today? |
| 20:29.34 | ChipX86 | oh ok |
| 20:29.42 | scanlime | I'm not staying in a hotel or anything |
| 20:30.08 | scanlime | purple_cow: there's soo much set-top-box stuff here :( |
| 20:30.15 | scanlime | and still no UIs cool like wasabi's old one |
| 20:30.24 | purple_cow | :) |
| 20:30.30 | scanlime | though they did have a kind of project-looking-glass-like mockup at the keynote |
| 20:30.52 | scanlime | if it had been with a touchscreen instead of remote, it would have been just like Minority Report |
| 20:30.55 | kergoth_ | ChipX86: did you see the Openzaurus/familiar/etc mockup for an efl (e17 foundation libs) based bootup menu? |
| 20:31.02 | ChipX86 | kergoth_: no, url? |
| 20:31.05 | kergoth_ | ChipX86: http://vanille.de/temp/efl-altboot.png |
| 20:31.24 | ChipX86 | ooh |
| 20:31.26 | scanlime | I'm having this crazy idea again... |
| 20:31.29 | kergoth_ | and thats animated. |
| 20:31.34 | kergoth_ | the selected item is glowing |
| 20:31.48 | scanlime | a while ago I wanted to do my own high-level code generator for microcontrollers |
| 20:32.21 | scanlime | you'd write a Python or C++ or maybe C# program that would use this code generation engine to compile firmware- but more than just a normal compiler, you'd be able to set up I/O operations and put very strict timing constraints on code |
| 20:32.26 | scanlime | no more cycle counting by hand |
| 20:32.34 | kergoth_ | ChipX86: http://handhelds.org/scap/port.5276.png .. e17 on a zaurus. |
| 20:32.44 | ChipX86 | http://www.jinx.com/scripts/details.asp?affid=-1&productID=428 |
| 20:32.50 | kergoth_ | scanlime: thatd be sweet |
| 20:32.50 | ChipX86 | I so need to buy that for Jamie |
| 20:33.02 | scanlime | you could use this offline like a compiler, but you could also run it real-time.. have your application dynamically create firmware with the timing and I/O you need, then upload it to a microcontroller |
| 20:33.14 | scanlime | would be awesome as hell for USB co-processors... |
| 20:33.19 | kergoth_ | actually, something like lua would be useful for that |
| 20:33.23 | scanlime | like an RCPOD that doesn't suck on timing |
| 20:33.54 | scanlime | kergoth_: for this? |
| 20:34.09 | scanlime | I'd want it more as a library, not a new language |
| 20:34.24 | scanlime | give you a way to programmatically assemble firmware rather than writing it |
| 20:34.30 | scanlime | so you could build higher level modules on top of that |
| 20:34.31 | kergoth_ | gotcha |
| 20:34.39 | scanlime | like platform-independent USB or NTSC or serial or whatever |
| 20:34.50 | scanlime | and under that there would be platform-specific code generators and timing constraints |
| 20:35.05 | scanlime | you could even statically multithread the app |
| 20:35.16 | kergoth_ | eh, thats eerily remniscent of the absolutely horrendous code generation tools companies have tried to sell to folks like ti |
| 20:35.17 | scanlime | weave together a few different threads at compile-time rather than runtime |
| 20:35.25 | kergoth_ | to generate os independent access functions to the omap hardware |
| 20:35.34 | kergoth_ | jesus man, there was a seperate function to write to each register |
| 20:35.45 | scanlime | well, it makes sense for apps where the only alternative is to cycle-count by hand... |
| 20:35.50 | kergoth_ | right |
| 20:36.03 | scanlime | I want to create two I/O operations, then set up a timing constraint that says they have to be exactly 62us apart |
| 20:36.06 | scanlime | then it just figures out how to do that |
| 20:36.20 | scanlime | then I want to run 30 of those at once, with all the timing constraints satisfied |
| 20:36.42 | scanlime | generate code for all that at runtime and upload to a microcontroller with no nonvolatile memory |
| 20:36.59 | scanlime | dynamic real-time I/O coprocessing |
| 20:37.11 | scanlime | for timing constraints way too hard for general-purpose CPUs |
| 20:37.17 | scanlime | like generating NTSC video in software |
| 20:37.32 | scanlime | or talking to video game controllers :) |
| 20:37.54 | purple_cow | hmm |
| 20:37.59 | kergoth_ | so this would be an alternative to spending out the ass on an rtos too ;) |
| 20:38.16 | ChipX86 | great "girlie" clothes on jinx.com |
| 20:38.27 | scanlime | kergoth_: RTOSes won't get you real-time down to a single CPU cycle |
| 20:38.58 | scanlime | purple_cow: those are easy to make. Give me a list of firmware to burn and I'll bring 'em in September :) |
| 20:39.20 | scanlime | bah, the 802.11 is so overloaded here |
| 20:39.32 | numist | surprised? |
| 20:39.44 | scanlime | just disappointed |
| 20:39.51 | numist | if you're at a conference, shouldnt you be conferencing instead of sitting on irssi? |
| 20:40.05 | scanlime | you'd think with all the wireless hype here they would do better |
| 20:40.11 | scanlime | numist: I'm between interesting things... |
| 20:40.16 | numist | ah :) |
| 20:40.35 | scanlime | next session starts at 2:30, all there is to do now is eat free food and wander the exhibits |
| 20:40.39 | numist | and you're sure that wireless is the bottleneck and not the conference's connection? |
| 20:40.41 | scanlime | and I'm bored with both those things |
| 20:40.48 | numist | bored with eating? |
| 20:40.51 | numist | :o |
| 20:41.00 | scanlime | yeah.. and I've already had 4 cups of free coffee |
| 20:41.02 | purple_cow | scanlime: i think just mi6k & gchub |
| 20:41.06 | numist | ew coffee |
| 20:41.10 | scanlime | ew coffee? |
| 20:41.14 | numist | :X |
| 20:41.21 | kergoth_ | .. |
| 20:41.27 | numist | yeah... it interacts badly with my digestive system, put mildly |
| 20:41.33 | ChipX86 | meh coffee |
| 20:41.47 | scanlime | YAY COFFEE! |
| 20:41.56 | numist | you can have mine, scanlime |
| 20:42.07 | scanlime | thanks |
| 20:42.08 | pagefault | has nullpuppy blown himself up in brewing his beer? |
| 20:42.13 | ChipX86 | I have coffee, but it's for Jamie |
| 20:42.19 | ChipX86 | pagefault: it's quite possible |
| 20:42.27 | ChipX86 | he didn't say that he hasn't blown himself up, so we coudl probably assume he has |
| 20:42.49 | pagefault | ChipX86, I hope not, I wanted to know of the results so I could brew my own |
| 20:43.04 | ChipX86 | we'll just have to get another nullpuppy and have that one try to brew beer |
| 20:43.56 | ChipX86 | "FLASH: Archduke Ferdinand still alive! World War I a complete mistake!" -- VMware quips page |
| 20:44.24 | kergoth_ | ~emulate peter |
| 20:44.25 | jbot | Now, I know you're a feminist, and I think that's adorable, but this is grown-up time and I'm the man. |
| 20:45.16 | numist | nice |
| 20:45.58 | purple_cow | kaiser bill, you dirty guy |
| 20:49.04 | purple_cow | ok, time to go buy textbooks and photocopy stuff, then go home |
| 20:49.05 | purple_cow | back in an hour or so |
| 20:56.34 | ChipX86 | ok, I need a name suggestion |
| 20:57.10 | ChipX86 | a function that takes a path, and will tell you what part of it both exists and is writable |
| 20:57.38 | ChipX86 | so I want to call: MyFunction("/a/b/c/d/foo") |
| 20:57.46 | ChipX86 | and if /a/b exists and I can write to it, it'll return /a/b |
| 20:58.01 | ChipX86 | if a/b exists but I can't write to a or to b, it'll return an error result |
| 20:59.26 | file | tree_exists! |
| 20:59.47 | ChipX86 | no, try again |
| 21:00.06 | file | but I'm eating chinese food :( |
| 21:00.16 | ChipX86 | well I already ate chinese food |
| 21:03.36 | pagefault | I need to have a beer or two |
| 21:04.38 | kergoth_ | or three or four? |
| 21:04.43 | ChipX86 | need a name :( |
| 21:04.59 | ChipX86 | getWritablePath doesn't really describe it well |
| 21:05.28 | kergoth_ | getWritablePathPrefix, or getWritablePathComponent? |
| 21:05.55 | kergoth_ | though its only the -leading- component, sot he latter would be ambiguous |
| 21:09.21 | numist | getWritablePantsPrefix |
| 21:09.26 | kergoth_ | ooh, good one |
| 21:09.31 | numist | :) |
| 21:12.28 | numist | no pants is becoming a common commit message at work |
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| 21:56.16 | pagefault | ChipX86, when can I buy that copy of VMware off you |
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| 22:03.19 | darth_mall | scanlime: you around? |
| 22:03.23 | pagefault | hey |
| 22:04.45 | darth_mall | man the razr is a sexy phone |
| 22:05.03 | purple_cow | you got one? |
| 22:05.07 | darth_mall | yeah |
| 22:05.12 | purple_cow | cool |
| 22:05.18 | darth_mall | I had the money, I figured why not |
| 22:05.22 | darth_mall | it's a very nice phone |
| 22:05.32 | darth_mall | hmm |
| 22:05.39 | darth_mall | lurgy just walked in, looked around, and left |
| 22:05.43 | kergoth_ | nice |
| 22:05.45 | kergoth_ | does it have bt? |
| 22:05.55 | kergoth_ | i need a new phone at some point here, my nokia 3650 is getting aged |
| 22:05.57 | darth_mall | anyway, not sure it's really worth $300 (or the $200 I spent on it) but it's a really nice phone |
| 22:06.01 | darth_mall | purple_cow: ECCR lobby |
| 22:06.03 | purple_cow | ah |
| 22:06.06 | darth_mall | kergoth_: it do |
| 22:06.09 | kergoth_ | yay, bt |
| 22:06.19 | darth_mall | it's the latest and greatest, so it pretty much has everything |
| 22:06.35 | darth_mall | all I can say is that it had better last at least the two years of my contract, or I"ll be cranky |
| 22:06.41 | kergoth_ | hehe |
| 22:06.42 | kergoth_ | i'm sure it will |
| 22:07.14 | darth_mall | I mean, my last phone was a $20 phone and went through 3 or 4 antennas, which I suppose is to be expected with a phone of that price |
| 22:07.30 | darth_mall | but for $200 I'd expect this phone to survive armageddon |
| 22:10.12 | kergoth_ | my nokia was like $300 or so. course it was top of the line at the time too |
| 22:10.26 | kergoth_ | i'd like to spend the extra cash on a phone thats unlocked (not bound to a specific company) |
| 22:10.40 | kergoth_ | then just get a sim card from t-mobile or whatever, avoid the contract |
| 22:25.42 | darth_mall | alright |
| 22:25.56 | darth_mall | I found my mp3 for the ringtone, now I have to crop it and figure out how to get it on my phone |
| 22:28.23 | numist | bitpim? |
| 22:28.29 | darth_mall | bitpim? |
| 22:28.32 | numist | yeah |
| 22:28.46 | numist | if you have a usb cable for your phone, bitpim can do pretty much anything |
| 22:28.49 | numist | its a sf.net project |
| 22:28.51 | darth_mall | huh |
| 22:28.56 | numist | I use it on my sanyo |
| 22:29.22 | purple_cow | whereby "pretty much" doesn't include ringtones on the SCH-A650 :P |
| 22:29.32 | kergoth_ | i just use bt to send it to my phone in a message :P |
| 22:29.52 | numist | well, for mine it treats it as just another file transfer |
| 22:30.06 | numist | dont see why it would be different on other phones |
| 22:30.15 | darth_mall | purple_cow: what app do you use to edit mp3's? I need to cut up this mp3 |
| 22:30.27 | purple_cow | darth_mall: audacity is good for simple stuff |
| 22:31.40 | darth_mall | ok |
| 22:31.44 | darth_mall | my new phone is so cute |
| 22:31.55 | numist | cute? :o |
| 22:32.02 | darth_mall | yeah |
| 22:32.05 | darth_mall | it really is |
| 22:32.10 | darth_mall | like my laptop, or purple_cow's laptop |
| 22:32.14 | darth_mall | or my X5 |
| 22:32.27 | numist | :o |
| 22:32.28 | darth_mall | it actually looks a lot like my X5 |
| 22:32.31 | numist | man youve got a lotta stuff |
| 22:32.51 | darth_mall | well, I had a good job this summer, and my bills are still pretty low |
| 22:32.58 | numist | cool |
| 22:33.03 | numist | my bills are not :/ |
| 22:33.04 | purple_cow | a laptop, mp3 player and cell phone is "a lotta stuff"? |
| 22:33.13 | kergoth_ | i need to get a loan to pay off my credit cards |
| 22:33.17 | numist | compared to my purchasing powers (given my expenses), yes |
| 22:33.20 | numist | its a whole lotta stuff |
| 22:33.22 | kergoth_ | like $6k running at 25-30% interest due to late payments |
| 22:33.49 | darth_mall | well, I didn't buy the laptop this summer, that was a while ago |
| 22:33.59 | darth_mall | but I did build unic, buy the x5 and my camera this summer |
| 22:34.08 | numist | :o |
| 22:34.27 | ChipX86 | mmmm |
| 22:34.28 | numist | I really need to consolidate my *life* |
| 22:34.28 | darth_mall | and I still managed to get just over $3000 in my bank by the end of the summer |
| 22:34.32 | numist | dang |
| 22:34.34 | ChipX86 | VMware got us rootbeer, ice cream, and whipped cream |
| 22:34.39 | ChipX86 | yay rootbeer floats |
| 22:34.46 | darth_mall | it's actually not $3000, because I owe purple_cow money for bills |
| 22:34.52 | numist | hrm |
| 22:34.53 | darth_mall | so, in reality, it was almost $3000 |
| 22:34.59 | numist | still |
| 22:35.03 | numist | almost is pretty good |
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| 22:35.22 | purple_cow | darth_mall: speaking of which, wait on the paying for another week or two |
| 22:35.29 | darth_mall | if you say so |
| 22:35.40 | darth_mall | hmm |
| 22:35.51 | darth_mall | I need to figure out timesheet stuff for my apprenticship |
| 22:36.22 | kergoth_ | whee, just about done with my linux userspace connection tracking database flushing functionality |
| 22:36.32 | kergoth_ | should be integrated and tested tomorrow |
| 22:37.07 | purple_cow | hmm |
| 22:37.23 | darth_mall | for our first choice? |
| 22:37.39 | purple_cow | our main competition is with the folks who want #10, but they haven't convinced the rest of their group |
| 22:37.41 | purple_cow | darth_mall: yeah |
| 22:37.45 | darth_mall | awesome |
| 22:37.49 | darth_mall | that would make me very happy |
| 22:42.07 | numist | ugh, my head hurts... I should go home soon |
| 22:42.52 | purple_cow | now if only slimspace|away would show up so i can send him our team info... |
| 22:44.48 | ChipX86 | mmm good rootbeer float |
| 22:49.55 | ChipX86 | stupid Xen |
| 22:50.00 | ChipX86 | Simon Crosby, Xen's VP of corporate strategy and development, dismisses VMware's partnership effort. |
| 22:50.09 | ChipX86 | "... The words open and source appear in the announcement, but as far as I can tell, open means 'Join our club,' and source means 'Give us your technology, and we'll include it if we choose to do so." |
| 22:50.25 | ChipX86 | we *never* said "open source." We've said open and we've said source, like, paragraphs apart |
| 22:51.29 | darth_mall | ChipX86: obviously that makes you terrible people |
| 22:51.32 | darth_mall | go to your rooms |
| 22:51.33 | ChipX86 | yep |
| 22:51.47 | ChipX86 | I just find it funny how he's trying to make it sound like we claimed to be doing open source |
| 22:51.57 | ChipX86 | because our press release contained both the words "open" and "source" |
| 22:52.14 | ChipX86 | Xen also claims that we can't take advantage of Intel's VT chips |
| 22:52.19 | ChipX86 | despite having support for months |
| 22:52.46 | ChipX86 | Crosby is such a lying bastard :) |
| 22:52.52 | ChipX86 | go Xen. |
| 22:53.03 | ChipX86 | one big open source PR company |
| 22:53.42 | ChipX86 | it looks like they're now coming out with a closed-source product too. So much for their argument |
| 22:54.22 | file | what is that other emulator... |
| 22:54.31 | ChipX86 | The next major releases of Red Hat Enterprise Linux and SuSE Linux Enterprise Server will include tweaks that support Xen's paravirtualization technology. |
| 22:54.39 | ChipX86 | Or as the company puts it, "... Hardened, enterprise-ready Xen distributions will be available from enterprise Linux distributors in early 2006." |
| 22:55.03 | ChipX86 | "Xen backers claim its approach to virtual machines consume far less system resources than VMware's approach and that Xen is better able to make use of technology being rolled out by Intel and AMD." |
| 22:55.10 | ChipX86 | technology we helped Intel and AMD come up with |
| 22:55.19 | ChipX86 | I'm both amused and disgusted by their PR |
| 22:55.59 | ChipX86 | also, their "We're faster than VMware" stats show Xen CVS against Workstation 3.0 |
| 22:57.36 | pagefault | you can't even compare them |
| 22:57.41 | pagefault | they don't even use the same kind of VM |
| 22:57.46 | ChipX86 | nod |
| 22:58.00 | ChipX86 | our tests show that we're still actually faster than Xen on VT |
| 22:58.03 | file[laptop] | pagefault: what's that other emulator... I remember you talked of it |
| 22:58.09 | ChipX86 | qemu? |
| 22:58.12 | file[laptop] | that's it |
| 22:58.55 | pagefault | xen does it the lazy, albiet fast way, but doing it there way they can only run unix based OSes on it |
| 22:59.08 | pagefault | they try to figure out what the OS trying to do and put in a rough approximation |
| 22:59.10 | ChipX86 | with VT they can run Windows |
| 22:59.13 | ChipX86 | mostly |
| 22:59.38 | pagefault | they are doing that the N64 people have done for years in their emulators |
| 23:00.33 | pagefault | what is VT? |
| 23:00.44 | ChipX86 | I just dislike them. Not necessarily because they're our competitors, but because of how they try to slam us and lie to people |
| 23:00.58 | pagefault | I know what you mean |
| 23:00.59 | ChipX86 | pagefault: Intel's new chip technology that allows for some virtualization of the processor |
| 23:01.04 | ChipX86 | we helped them with it, have sat down with Intel many times |
| 23:01.08 | pagefault | but corporate america has a bad image and it's hard to get rid of it |
| 23:01.11 | ChipX86 | despite Xen's "VMware can't use VT but we can!" |
| 23:02.30 | pagefault | well you know the open source zelots |
| 23:02.34 | pagefault | err zealots |
| 23:02.36 | ChipX86 | yeah. |
| 23:02.54 | ChipX86 | I like how the gnome guys pretty much like VMware. At least we have that going for us |
| 23:03.00 | numist | hell, we are open source zealots |
| 23:03.48 | pagefault | yeah but don't do it stallman style |
| 23:04.33 | pagefault | richard m stalin |
| 23:04.38 | pagefault | as he likes to be called |
| 23:13.41 | file | SO |
| 23:13.47 | pagefault | hello |
| 23:14.19 | file | yeah... |
| 23:14.36 | pagefault | stuff |
| 23:23.25 | KeyserSoze | doh. i finally got the framebuffer capture to work, and now i don't have my laptop (or any linux machine) here to convert it to a viewable format. |
| 23:23.58 | file[laptop] | pagefault: poke |
| 23:24.16 | pagefault | whats up sir file |
| 23:24.29 | KeyserSoze | can you install apps from the command line in redhat without confusing the GUI installer, if it eventually is used again? |
| 23:24.38 | file[laptop] | oh stopped working |
| 23:24.43 | KeyserSoze | there's a redhat box around, but /me hates and fears redhat |
| 23:24.51 | file[laptop] | chillin' now |
| 23:25.01 | file[laptop] | got an extension on my major project |
| 23:25.08 | file[laptop] | because, well, the uber-boss likes me |
| 23:26.39 | darth_mall | alright |
| 23:26.41 | darth_mall | another CAETE class |
| 23:27.00 | purple_cow | ? |
| 23:27.06 | file[laptop] | pagefault: Canada Post is teh evil |
| 23:27.16 | KeyserSoze | does anyone on x86 have a raw16toraw24 executable? |
| 23:27.33 | darth_mall | purple_cow: UI Design is a CAETE class |
| 23:27.42 | purple_cow | ah |
| 23:27.48 | kergoth | yay, home |
| 23:28.27 | purple_cow | well, it might be |
| 23:28.32 | pagefault | what does raw do |
| 23:28.59 | purple_cow | there are a lot of UI issues in web pages (at least "pages" in the sense of web apps) |
| 23:29.08 | darth_mall | right |
| 23:29.10 | purple_cow | and a lot of that same theory carries over to traditional apps |
| 23:29.20 | KeyserSoze | pagefault: 'raw' is raw framebuffer captures |
| 23:29.29 | pagefault | oh |
| 23:29.48 | KeyserSoze | it needs to be converted from 16 bit color to 24 bit color, before it can be converted to a PPM image, before it can be converted to a gif, bmp, jpg, png, etc. |
| 23:29.52 | pagefault | well you know some video cards store pixel data differently in the frame buffer |
| 23:30.11 | darth_mall | as long as it's actually about UI and not just, this is HTML, this is CSS, I'll be pleased |
| 23:30.20 | purple_cow | i doubt it'll be about HTML |
| 23:30.25 | purple_cow | it's supposed to be a good course |
| 23:30.40 | purple_cow | i wouldn't be surprised if they do it with web pages though, just since it's such an easy testbed |
| 23:30.41 | KeyserSoze | yeah, besides bits per pixel, it's also rgb or brg or grb, etc. but the raw16toraw24 program IIRC has command line options for that |
| 23:31.09 | darth_mall | purple_cow: right |
| 23:31.12 | darth_mall | and I'd be fine with that |
| 23:33.11 | purple_cow | ok. time to go back to campus and see if this paper that's on reserve is available |
| 23:33.41 | *** join/#tacobeam file[laptop] (n=jcolp@mctnnbsa30w-156034035171.nb.aliant.net) |
| 23:33.44 | purple_cow | if it's not, i think i'm going to skip this reading and send the instructor an irate email about how it just isn't possible for 20 students to all read the same paper from a single copy on reserve in 2 days |
| 23:33.56 | KeyserSoze | stupid server at home died, and i don't have the necessary port forwarded to my laptop to ssh into it at home |
| 23:34.18 | KeyserSoze | and sophie's in school, and I'm too lazy to walk home and get it and come back to work... |
| 23:39.36 | darth_mall | silly KeyserSoze |
| 23:41.00 | KeyserSoze | is navi no more? |
| 23:41.19 | darth_mall | kergoth: ^ |
| 23:41.23 | darth_mall | erm... ^^ |
| 23:41.32 | KeyserSoze | anyone want to try emailing me their raw16toraw24, if they've got one? |
| 23:41.47 | darth_mall | navi is not the same as it was |
| 23:41.51 | KeyserSoze | should have it if you have directfb installed |
| 23:42.46 | file[laptop] | this employee discount stuff is getting a little out of hand |
| 23:44.43 | ChipX86 | kergoth: look what you did! |
| 23:44.46 | kergoth | oops |
| 23:44.48 | ChipX86 | oh |
| 23:44.51 | ChipX86 | nobody in here can see it |
| 23:44.59 | kergoth | hehe |
| 23:45.07 | ChipX86 | floods don't take down all of CIA anymore :( |
| 23:45.45 | kergoth | ChipX86: hehe, merging my branch back to trunk, and apparently my trigger doesnt obey SVK_SILENT or anything |
| 23:52.07 | pagefault | Wow |
| 23:52.07 | pagefault | WoW |
| 23:52.19 | darth_mall | woW |
| 23:52.47 | kergoth | wow |
| 23:52.51 | darth_mall | mom |
| 23:53.31 | ChipX86 | w.w |
| 23:53.36 | ChipX86 | it's an owl |
| 23:53.41 | darth_mall | hehe |
| 23:58.44 | ChipX86 | ASSERT, you are my friend. You save me from having to right complicated code that will never be hit. |
| 23:58.53 | ChipX86 | s/right/write/ |
