| 00:01.39 | scanlime | I wonder if it's possible to boot an iBook off a USB flash disk |
| 00:05.56 | ChipX86 | gtk 2.8 is out |
| 00:06.26 | scanlime | hmm |
| 00:06.29 | scanlime | that happened on the 16th |
| 00:06.32 | scanlime | sure did happen quietly |
| 00:06.35 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 00:06.57 | ChipX86 | pango breaks libsexy :( |
| 00:07.00 | scanlime | ooh nice |
| 00:07.08 | ChipX86 | or vice-versa |
| 00:08.28 | file[laptop] | I don't like people who join an IRC channel, don't say hi, and the first thing they say is a paste of a warning message |
| 00:09.15 | scanlime | which IRC channel? I'll need to save up some warning messages first... |
| 00:10.30 | scanlime | going to be a very early morning tomorrow... |
| 00:13.23 | numist | going to be a very late night tonight |
| 00:13.33 | scanlime | :( |
| 00:13.35 | ChipX86 | scanlime: why? |
| 00:13.40 | scanlime | ChipX86: IDF |
| 00:13.45 | ChipX86 | oh, yeah |
| 00:13.48 | numist | scanlime: the soldering on my usb ide adaptors is really shoddy.. one resistor is barely connected on one end... did you see any quality control problems on yours? |
| 00:13.57 | scanlime | registration opens at 7 AM, and if I'm taking the train there I'm going to need to leave muchly early |
| 00:14.16 | scanlime | numist: it looked alright.. if you want to see shoddy look at a PC power supply |
| 00:14.35 | scanlime | the cable on mine wasn't connected that well |
| 00:14.36 | numist | yeah, I could have soldered my power supply better by hand |
| 00:14.39 | scanlime | and some of the SMT parts were a little crooked |
| 00:14.49 | numist | but this, for the size of the components, is a little frightening |
| 00:14.54 | scanlime | hehe |
| 00:15.06 | numist | Ill have to take a photo when I get home tonight |
| 00:16.19 | scanlime | hmm |
| 00:16.21 | scanlime | 0xCDCDCDCD |
| 00:16.29 | scanlime | isn't that what windows tends to fill unallocated memory with? |
| 00:16.33 | numist | 0xDEADBEEF |
| 00:16.37 | scanlime | ah |
| 00:16.41 | numist | (I was kidding) |
| 00:16.46 | scanlime | wouldn't be surprised |
| 00:16.46 | numist | (I have no idea) |
| 00:17.02 | scanlime | I think electric fence actually uses 0xDEADBEEF for something... |
| 00:17.03 | numist | deadbeef is netscapes error code.. if something goes awry, you know to look for a pointer pointing to deadbeef |
| 00:17.18 | numist | at least, thats where I saw it |
| 00:33.42 | file | AHA, my router has shown up in Ontario |
| 00:39.17 | ChipX86 | big huge libnotify protocol and API proposal and code from J5 |
| 00:39.20 | ChipX86 | all pretty good |
| 00:39.57 | ChipX86 | except he seems to have been badly misled by walters into thinking that our notification-daemon doesn't allow location-specific bubbles and toaster popups at the same time, and that we're not going to add it (something that I've etold walters over and over we do allow) |
| 00:40.06 | file | I've been tempted to muck with my own VoIP protocol |
| 00:45.07 | scanlime | it's a lot like gdb.. except all the command names are different |
| 00:45.12 | scanlime | and cryptic |
| 00:45.15 | ChipX86 | he |
| 00:45.17 | ChipX86 | er, heh |
| 00:45.54 | scanlime | but it's both a usermode debugger and kernel degugger, which is handy |
| 00:46.00 | scanlime | I just wish it had a UI more like ddd... |
| 00:46.06 | scanlime | or even plain old gdb |
| 00:49.08 | scanlime | hmm. this thing has some powerful features |
| 00:49.33 | scanlime | "data breakpoints" which work like hardware watchpoints in gdb, but have some extra features |
| 00:49.55 | scanlime | you can mask them to fire on read/write/execute of a particular address |
| 01:02.21 | kergoth | ChipX86: you should do an instance. |
| 01:06.37 | KeyserSoze | another guy i work with prefers 0BADC0DE |
| 01:10.09 | scanlime | well, it looks like the MSVC debug runtime sets memory to 0xCC on free and 0xCD when allocated |
| 01:10.19 | scanlime | kinda handy |
| 01:10.33 | scanlime | now that I know that because of some watchpoints and stack traces... |
| 01:12.20 | ChipX86 | kergoth: I want to |
| 01:12.27 | ChipX86 | kergoth: I need your help for any I do though :P |
| 01:13.10 | kergoth | ChipX86: evil is in an SM group as we speak. was going to get you in it too but it filled up first |
| 01:13.15 | ChipX86 | awww, J5 loves me |
| 01:13.20 | ChipX86 | "I love you for saying that" |
| 01:20.27 | numist | great.. one of the usb controllers doesnt work |
| 01:22.38 | numist | no wait.. that was winxp being stupid |
| 01:23.11 | scanlime | don't get me started on how much fun USB in windows is... |
| 01:23.44 | lurgy | tell me scanlime, just how much fun *IS* USB in windows? |
| 01:23.44 | lurgy | >:D |
| 01:25.54 | scanlime | sigh... |
| 01:26.07 | scanlime | about thiiiis much fun |
| 01:27.58 | lurgy | ooh |
| 01:28.01 | lurgy | that's a lot of fun |
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| 01:43.20 | pagefault_ | hah |
| 01:43.23 | pagefault_ | rosetta is working on SSE2 procs now |
| 01:43.41 | pagefault_ | someone actually wasted the time to emulate SSE3 through SSE2 |
| 01:45.10 | scanlime | heh |
| 01:47.33 | pagefault_ | going to try to install it on my lappy |
| 01:47.39 | pagefault_ | should work fine natively |
| 01:50.06 | scanlime | which network cards does it support? |
| 01:50.48 | pagefault_ | not many |
| 01:50.50 | pagefault_ | 3com 90x |
| 01:50.54 | pagefault_ | BCM440x |
| 01:51.00 | pagefault_ | Intel8255 |
| 01:51.08 | pagefault_ | RTL8139 |
| 01:51.16 | scanlime | more than I thought |
| 01:51.17 | pagefault_ | DEC21x4 |
| 01:51.35 | pagefault_ | Intel8255 |
| 01:51.44 | pagefault_ | Intel8254 |
| 01:51.48 | pagefault_ | yeah |
| 01:52.26 | pagefault_ | most people with laptops have working ethernet |
| 01:52.27 | pagefault_ | no wireless though |
| 01:53.29 | purple_cow | woo |
| 01:54.28 | scanlime | what kind? |
| 01:55.47 | pagefault_ | this proc is funny |
| 01:55.48 | pagefault_ | brb |
| 01:56.17 | purple_cow | 20" philips |
| 01:56.33 | purple_cow | it had a flat tube and s-video, and was comparatively inexpensive at costco |
| 01:57.05 | scanlime | how much? |
| 01:59.26 | purple_cow | 129 |
| 01:59.41 | scanlime | not bad |
| 02:01.00 | purple_cow | quite good, considering how good the picture is on philips' |
| 02:04.14 | KeyserSoze | pagefault_: are you running OS X on an intel laptop already, and adding the SSE3? or installing OS X for the first time? |
| 02:04.42 | pagefault_ | first time |
| 02:04.54 | pagefault_ | there is a kernel patch for darwin |
| 02:04.57 | pagefault_ | to emulate SSE3 |
| 02:05.24 | KeyserSoze | got a link for install instructions? |
| 02:05.52 | pagefault_ | xplodenet.com |
| 02:06.00 | pagefault_ | that has guides |
| 02:06.01 | pagefault_ | and whatnot |
| 02:06.04 | KeyserSoze | thanks |
| 02:06.31 | scanlime | there are torrents floating around with a full vmware disk image for OS X |
| 02:06.46 | pagefault_ | wouldn't surprise me |
| 02:07.07 | pagefault_ | it's a pain to install |
| 02:09.43 | pagefault_ | what processor do you have |
| 02:09.54 | pagefault_ | oh ahah |
| 02:10.12 | scanlime | KeyserSoze: I think you'll need a geocities account |
| 02:10.56 | KeyserSoze | bah, windows users always have it so easy, with all the tools they can download and install |
| 02:12.07 | scanlime | I wish I could download a shareware program for linux that would tell me how many lines in a file, or let me change my TCP/IP settings |
| 02:12.18 | scanlime | it'd be so much more userfriendly and such |
| 02:18.55 | kergoth | hehe |
| 02:23.54 | scanlime | whew. fixed the bug. |
| 02:24.30 | scanlime | definitely time to go home |
| 02:27.21 | numist | ooh, no wait |
| 02:27.40 | pagefault_ | ooh |
| 02:27.46 | pagefault_ | harry potter trailer looks good |
| 02:28.39 | numist | hrm... |
| 02:30.55 | numist | mating? eeww |
| 02:34.30 | gonkulator | whew |
| 02:34.32 | gonkulator | what a great day |
| 02:34.58 | numist | like a young boy on his first time, I blundered soldering the usb hub, my inexperienced hands slipping and unsure. But in the end, I prevailed. |
| 02:35.54 | purple_cow | numist: not really :P |
| 02:36.53 | numist | ah hah |
| 02:40.31 | pagefault_ | hehe |
| 02:40.35 | pagefault_ | inexperienced hands |
| 02:40.51 | kergoth | I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him. --Mark Twain |
| 02:45.26 | pagefault_ | haha |
| 02:53.48 | pagefault_ | woah |
| 02:53.53 | pagefault_ | download.com changed it's layout |
| 02:56.47 | gonkulator | darn... no rioter |
| 02:57.28 | pagefault_ | I need to build an IR blaster |
| 02:57.34 | pagefault_ | I wonder if it's cheaper to just buy the thing |
| 02:57.59 | scanlime | heh |
| 02:58.01 | scanlime | mi6k |
| 02:58.08 | scanlime | really cheap design to assemble |
| 02:59.42 | pagefault_ | do you have a parts list on the site somewhere? |
| 03:02.04 | scanlime | I have a schematic, I forget whether there's a separate BOM |
| 03:05.14 | scanlime | it's basically just a PIC and a few discrete components |
| 03:05.22 | scanlime | the only other somewhat fancy part is the IR receiver module |
| 03:05.25 | scanlime | and those are about a dollar |
| 03:07.38 | scanlime | the hardest part is going to be programming the microcontroller, but I can do it and mail you a chip if you want |
| 03:11.32 | scanlime | :) |
| 03:11.38 | scanlime | purple_cow: no rush, right? :) |
| 03:12.21 | purple_cow | yeah |
| 03:15.58 | scanlime | for what? |
| 03:16.03 | purple_cow | an mi6k |
| 03:16.07 | scanlime | ah, right |
| 03:16.16 | scanlime | fry's has a few... |
| 03:16.31 | scanlime | looked like about the same selection as saunders' though |
| 03:19.44 | purple_cow | argh |
| 03:21.03 | gonkulator | numist: I got your check today |
| 03:21.26 | gonkulator | :-D |
| 03:21.28 | scanlime | PERM_FAILURE: SMTP Error (state 13): 556 5.7.1 Message refused by Lockheed Martin due to content or security policy violation. |
| 03:21.32 | scanlime | blah |
| 03:21.50 | numist | gonkulator: yeah, it suxors |
| 03:21.59 | gonkulator | scanlime: what were you sending? |
| 03:22.18 | scanlime | just replying to my dad, we were talking about car payments |
| 03:22.21 | scanlime | it probably set off their spam filter |
| 03:22.50 | gonkulator | but I don't email him as often as you do |
| 03:22.57 | numist | sweet. I havent fried my hub yet from the soldering :x |
| 03:23.13 | numist | two disks mount now |
| 03:23.45 | file[laptop] | I'm writing a channel driver for Asterisk to communicate with Yahoo Voice folks |
| 03:23.57 | gonkulator | fun |
| 03:24.08 | gonkulator | file[laptop]: is AIM voice chat integrated yet? |
| 03:24.38 | numist | in other news, that desoldering tool was well worth the investment.. I accidentally soldered the 5v and the data lines together on the hub... |
| 03:24.45 | file[laptop] | good idea |
| 03:24.49 | file[laptop] | I'll put it next on my list |
| 03:25.18 | gonkulator | the thought of calling you with my iSight is just too weird :) |
| 03:26.53 | file[laptop] | hehe |
| 03:26.58 | file[laptop] | they use a modified SIP too, just like Yahoo |
| 03:27.51 | pagefault_ | is it just me or are phone calls sounding worse and worse |
| 03:28.06 | pagefault_ | going from cell phone to voip and back again really makes it sound like crap |
| 03:33.49 | purple_cow | it's not just you |
| 03:34.45 | purple_cow | the old AT&T culture of perfect audible quality has gone completely out of the window |
| 03:35.00 | purple_cow | because the phone companies discovered that people were willing to tolerate bad quality |
| 03:35.29 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r8814 10xchat-gnome/fe-gnome/ (irc-network-editor.c irc-network-editor.glade): no need to have an 'apply' button on a modal dialog |
| 03:42.59 | scanlime | hmm |
| 03:43.04 | scanlime | comcast isn't charging me for modem rental yet |
| 03:46.40 | scanlime | have you tried reorienting the receiving device? |
| 03:46.41 | scanlime | :P |
| 03:47.23 | purple_cow | aw, not 24 hour |
| 03:47.27 | purple_cow | scanlime: receiving device? |
| 03:47.51 | scanlime | (FCC humor) |
| 03:48.03 | purple_cow | bleh |
| 03:48.12 | scanlime | yeah |
| 03:48.18 | scanlime | is it just wobbly no matter what you do? |
| 03:48.58 | darth_mall | balls on jesus that was a hard workout |
| 03:49.19 | purple_cow | it's not really wobbly, just the picture is rotated a bit and i get a brown spot that appears about 15 seconds after i turn it on |
| 03:49.36 | scanlime | ick |
| 03:49.45 | purple_cow | other than that it looks really good :( |
| 03:49.56 | darth_mall | purple_cow: new tv? |
| 03:50.12 | purple_cow | darth_mall: yeah |
| 03:50.20 | darth_mall | neat |
| 03:50.31 | purple_cow | well, it would be if it wasn't being retarded |
| 03:52.15 | darth_mall | goddamn fucking portage |
| 03:55.00 | darth_mall | finally |
| 04:04.18 | gonkulator | kergoth: it goes to 1.4kw |
| 04:04.23 | gonkulator | er, KeyserSoze |
| 04:04.24 | kergoth | you missed |
| 04:04.31 | gonkulator | indeed |
| 04:04.34 | KeyserSoze | it uses 1.4kw, and it allegedly produces 1kw |
| 04:04.39 | gonkulator | oh |
| 04:04.46 | gonkulator | well, than I didn't RTFA |
| 04:04.49 | KeyserSoze | but 1kw/66a= an average of 15V |
| 04:05.32 | KeyserSoze | and since the voltages are going to be 12, -12, 5, and 3.3, there is no way 66amps will add up to more than say 792W, and that's if it was all 12V |
| 04:07.41 | KeyserSoze | :D |
| 04:07.43 | gonkulator | :) |
| 04:07.55 | gonkulator | its not that your boring, its that its late |
| 04:08.14 | KeyserSoze | i'm tired, too, but somehow not sleepy |
| 04:09.05 | scanlime | hmm |
| 04:09.20 | scanlime | that PSU does have five isolated 12V outputs |
| 04:09.24 | scanlime | that could be quite handy |
| 04:10.30 | KeyserSoze | i didn't see a second page, or a link or anything at the hexus article |
| 04:10.43 | scanlime | I'm looking at the photo of the sticker on the side of the supply |
| 04:10.56 | KeyserSoze | oh, good thinking |
| 04:11.09 | KeyserSoze | ah, the 66A is of 12V, so that's 800watts right there |
| 04:14.14 | KeyserSoze | we got these nifty laptop-style power supplies at work, 100W of 28V. which is very nice because all our aircraft stuff runs off 28V, and in the past we'd have to take a big-ass $300 fancy lab supply to our desk, to just run a board |
| 04:14.42 | scanlime | that's handy |
| 04:14.47 | KeyserSoze | having 100W is good because we can run a whole box, with the LCD and backlight, off it too |
| 04:15.49 | scanlime | heh, gotta love making cables |
| 04:17.01 | file[laptop] | enough coding for tonight |
| 04:17.57 | scanlime | only that can really instill a hatred of all things cable-ful |
| 04:19.40 | file[laptop] | Yahoo is interesting |
| 04:20.03 | file[laptop] | they changed SIP just enough to not make anything else work |
| 04:20.05 | KeyserSoze | one thing i saw for the first time a couple weeks ago, is instead of just using zip ties in a couple places to keep a bundle of wires together, use a 1/2" or so of shrink wrap (slid on before putting both connectors on) |
| 04:20.14 | file[laptop] | and enough to make reverse engineering interesting |
| 04:20.29 | scanlime | KeyserSoze: that's pretty common |
| 04:20.50 | purple_cow | hehe |
| 04:20.53 | purple_cow | ``Hooray, Leo [my boss] has just given birth to a baby boy. Damien's been running stakes on gender, weight and day - I was a day late, a couple of pounds too heavy and the wrong sex. Story of my life!'' |
| 04:20.54 | scanlime | you find it more on high-end or handmade stuff though |
| 04:21.08 | scanlime | :) |
| 04:21.22 | KeyserSoze | i also thought i invented filling the solder cups on a DB connector with solder, and then putting the end of the tinned wire into it |
| 04:21.38 | scanlime | KeyserSoze: no, I invented that! |
| 04:22.22 | purple_cow | wow |
| 04:22.25 | purple_cow | someone bigger? |
| 04:22.33 | KeyserSoze | wait, i'm still looking |
| 04:22.43 | KeyserSoze | :p |
| 04:22.44 | scanlime | hehe |
| 04:25.43 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r8815 10xchat-gnome/fe-gnome/ (irc-network.c navigation-tree.c navigation-tree.h): apply changes to character encoding to the server if we're currently connected |
| 04:28.23 | purple_cow | looks like i get to go back to costco tomorrow :( |
| 04:28.32 | KeyserSoze | no go on the tv? |
| 04:33.53 | numist | oh hell |
| 04:36.47 | scanlime | so... |
| 04:37.04 | numist | windows does not handle my usb array very well |
| 04:37.07 | scanlime | I'm thinking about visiting Boulder on the weekend of sept. 30th to the 2nd |
| 04:37.15 | numist | it freaks out at the prospect of a hub and 4 disks being suddenly connected |
| 04:37.30 | scanlime | numist: don't get me started on windows USB! |
| 04:38.05 | numist | scanlime: Im going to have to put in switches for all of the usb ide controllers now :( |
| 04:38.16 | numist | whoa, one of them just popped up out of nowheres |
| 04:38.35 | scanlime | numist: actually, how is it freaking out exactly? I don't know why that wouldn't work, you'd just get a lot of 'new hardware' dialogs at once |
| 04:38.46 | numist | no dialogs, they hide themselves :/ |
| 04:38.51 | scanlime | huh |
| 04:38.55 | numist | it still hasnt found two of the controllers |
| 04:39.09 | numist | last time it found three of them, errorred on the fourth.. dont know if it was my fault or not though |
| 04:39.49 | numist | this is stupid... |
| 04:40.22 | numist | yeah, partition magic only sees the two drives... wtf |
| 04:41.44 | scanlime | isn't windows *great*? |
| 04:41.46 | numist | I think Im going to have to hack up some switches to turn on each drive/controller |
| 04:41.49 | numist | NO ITS NOT |
| 04:41.58 | numist | yeah |
| 04:42.03 | numist | this is really fusstrating |
| 04:42.25 | numist | ok, doing the found new hardware thing again |
| 04:42.47 | numist | great, one of them showed up as an unknown device... |
| 04:43.06 | numist | is it possible that my USB 1.1 computer is losing the fourth drive to bus crosstalk? |
| 04:43.08 | scanlime | I'm actually pretty curious now how hard it would be to build my own USB storage device that would support a large number of disks all on its own |
| 04:43.27 | numist | well, as long as it identified itself as one disk... |
| 04:43.28 | scanlime | numist: does it work under linux? windows USB has a lot of race conditions and such |
| 04:43.42 | numist | I dont have a working linux box with usb functional |
| 04:43.44 | numist | I never have |
| 04:43.46 | scanlime | oh |
| 04:43.48 | scanlime | why's that? |
| 04:43.51 | scanlime | USB in linux is easy |
| 04:43.52 | numist | I have a ubuntu livecd though |
| 04:44.03 | numist | never really use usb that much except for my printer |
| 04:44.05 | numist | *shrug* |
| 04:44.13 | numist | this is the most playing Ive done with it |
| 04:44.34 | scanlime | numist: theoretically it could export several USB storage devices on separate interfaces I think |
| 04:44.56 | scanlime | either that or it could just concatenate the disks into one drive and make them appear as separate partitions by dynamically generating a new partition table >:) |
| 04:45.09 | numist | that would be nifty |
| 04:45.16 | scanlime | or it could do RAID |
| 04:45.20 | numist | but, it would make partitioning each disk (if you wanted that control) to be a pain |
| 04:45.24 | numist | Id say raid0 :) |
| 04:45.29 | scanlime | super speedy raid on a 24MHz microcontroller! |
| 04:45.48 | numist | you make it, I will come :) |
| 04:45.58 | scanlime | oh, it should probably be USB 2 huh.. |
| 04:46.05 | scanlime | I don't have any USB 2 development hardware |
| 04:46.21 | purple_cow | heh |
| 04:46.58 | darth_mall | and their stupid PLUS inside of cuconnect thing |
| 04:47.01 | darth_mall | that drives me nuts |
| 04:47.04 | numist | god damn this |
| 04:47.13 | numist | lemme grab an ubuntu livecd and see what I can do |
| 04:47.29 | darth_mall | well, I'm going to go to sleep now |
| 04:47.31 | darth_mall | g'night kids |
| 04:47.31 | scanlime | huh |
| 04:47.35 | scanlime | grisbi only supports euros :( |
| 04:47.55 | scanlime | ah, you have to add other currencies yourself |
| 04:47.55 | purple_cow | grisbi? |
| 04:47.56 | scanlime | that's silly |
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| 04:54.08 | scanlime | http://shareit1.element5.com/programs.html?productid=207857&language=English |
| 04:54.10 | scanlime | woo |
| 04:54.33 | scanlime | the GNU Radio people are using the Cypress FX2 chip, so their mailing list has people finding cheap dev boards for it :) |
| 05:00.20 | scanlime | grisbi's UI makes me sad |
| 05:00.25 | scanlime | almost as sad as gnucash |
| 05:01.27 | scanlime | ugh |
| 05:01.47 | scanlime | I just realized.. I left all my IDF registration stuff on my machine at work.. can't remotely log in yet |
| 05:01.57 | scanlime | I'll have to stop by on the way |
| 05:09.54 | numist | ugh |
| 05:11.11 | numist | well, at least I got the interweb working... ubuntu doesnt seem to like my wireless card |
| 05:13.20 | *** join/#tacobeam rioter (n=rar@dsl-203-33-163-226.NSW.netspace.net.au) |
| 05:13.43 | numist | well thats worrying... |
| 05:14.09 | numist | cat /proc/bus/usb/devices shows only two of the USB to IDE controllers... |
| 05:14.21 | numist | and my ssh session is all fuxored.. one moment |
| 05:14.42 | numist | ther |
| 05:14.49 | numist | wonder what I did wrong |
| 05:18.00 | nullpuppy | ah.. finally home |
| 05:18.15 | nullpuppy | had a impromptu company dinner, yay free food :) |
| 05:18.52 | kergoth | had to reboot the cable modem yet again |
| 05:19.29 | numist | fuck |
| 05:23.08 | numist | finally all four usb ide controllers show up... but why arent they mounting... |
| 05:23.24 | nullpuppy | hmm |
| 05:23.42 | numist | theres still no /dev/sdc or /dev/sdd :/ |
| 05:23.55 | nullpuppy | :( |
| 05:24.03 | numist | boo |
| 05:28.41 | numist | damnit all... Im going to redo this all tomorrow |
| 05:28.54 | nullpuppy | :( |
| 05:41.00 | purple_cow | well, the walk didn't really do anything to improve my mood |
| 05:42.26 | numist | oops, I hope that little trick didnt fry my disk.. |
| 05:44.18 | numist | mwahahahaha it all works |
| 05:44.22 | numist | bwahaha |
| 05:44.40 | nullpuppy | &*(&%(@*$% I guess I'll just print the schedule at work tomorrow |
| 05:50.27 | purple_cow | ARGH |
| 05:50.34 | purple_cow | now it looks like something in fembot is failing |
| 05:50.48 | numist | :( |
| 05:58.26 | kergoth | gah! |
| 05:58.29 | kergoth | google spidering my websvn again |
| 05:58.35 | kergoth | i -really- need to setup a robots.txt |
| 05:59.57 | numist | yeah... |
| 06:02.40 | purple_cow | huh, ok |
| 06:02.48 | purple_cow | so apparently fembot had lost all the BIOS settings |
| 06:03.00 | purple_cow | and the AGP port was turned off :P |
| 06:05.11 | numist | sweet |
| 06:08.45 | scanlime | hmm |
| 06:08.53 | numist | scanlime: got everything working |
| 06:08.55 | scanlime | so biking to work takes only about twice as long as driving, going at a fairly liesurely pace |
| 06:09.05 | numist | excellent |
| 06:09.19 | purple_cow | scanlime: cool. does that include any interstates? :) |
| 06:09.38 | scanlime | naw :( |
| 06:09.49 | scanlime | i usually drive on I-280.. which is a bit out of the way |
| 06:09.53 | scanlime | I biked along El Camino Real |
| 06:10.00 | scanlime | which is probably more dangerous than an interstate during rush hour |
| 06:10.14 | purple_cow | whoa. episode 9 of paranoia agent is starting to be even weirder than episode 8 |
| 06:10.18 | scanlime | I biked on I-25 very briefly :) |
| 06:11.03 | scanlime | it was on the way to Denver, when I was pretty much completely lost and navigating by gut instinct. Then I had this "oh crap I'm on I-25" moment |
| 06:11.08 | scanlime | but it was about 2 AM so it was pretty empty |
| 06:11.42 | purple_cow | 28th is about the busiest road i'll bicycle on. i did foothills once during rush hour, and that was a little too much |
| 06:11.59 | scanlime | hmm |
| 06:12.03 | scanlime | I should figure out how to print at work |
| 06:12.13 | purple_cow | hehe. a kid just sneezed out all the facts he memorized for a test |
| 06:12.19 | scanlime | or I could just set up CUPS at home |
| 06:12.26 | purple_cow | yay paranoia agent! |
| 06:12.32 | scanlime | I need to watch more of that |
| 06:12.39 | purple_cow | it's like the salvadore dali of anime |
| 06:12.41 | scanlime | wonder which disk it's on... |
| 06:12.54 | scanlime | I'm really liking this idea of building my own USB to 16 disks adaptor ;) |
| 06:13.02 | numist | 16 disks :o |
| 06:13.08 | scanlime | nice round number |
| 06:13.18 | numist | I dont even have 16 disks... |
| 06:13.29 | scanlime | I'm even pondering the possibility of modding an off the shelf USB to IDE adaptor |
| 06:13.43 | scanlime | changing its descriptors, adding some GPIO to switch disks, then writing a kernel module for it |
| 06:13.48 | purple_cow | scanlime: crazy bastard |
| 06:13.50 | numist | I want a hand in whatever cocamime scheme this drags you into |
| 06:13.52 | scanlime | sort of a really fast entirely electronic disk jukebox ;) |
| 06:14.16 | scanlime | then I could even power off disks that haven't been accessed recently, while still keeping their dentry caches and stuff |
| 06:14.19 | scanlime | mmmm |
| 06:14.20 | scanlime | that would rock |
| 06:14.29 | purple_cow | scanlime: crazy bastard! |
| 06:14.39 | numist | :D |
| 06:14.52 | purple_cow | mmmmmMMMmmm black butte |
| 06:14.54 | scanlime | I think I'd rather just get an FX2 dev kit and take an excuse to write a USB storage device though |
| 06:15.09 | scanlime | hmm |
| 06:15.21 | scanlime | or I could use the slower EZUSB board I borrowed from work |
| 06:15.33 | scanlime | and if it works well, I get the more expensive board and port the code to the FX2 and high-speed USB |
| 06:15.55 | numist | I know flash media is not good for a lot of rewrites |
| 06:15.59 | numist | but whats RAM? |
| 06:16.17 | scanlime | either way I think I want to consolidate what I want off navi onto four disks for my current enclosure.. whatever I tinker with next is sure to eat lots of data during development |
| 06:16.24 | scanlime | numist: what do you mean? how does RAM work? |
| 06:16.28 | numist | create a tmpfs device (or a device with an onboard battery to keep the memory from dying) |
| 06:16.33 | numist | and make it a usb mass storage device |
| 06:16.41 | numist | more r/w cycles before its likely to fail |
| 06:16.54 | scanlime | you're describing battery-backed RAM |
| 06:16.57 | numist | yes |
| 06:17.01 | scanlime | that's what they had before flash memory |
| 06:17.05 | scanlime | very expensive comparatively |
| 06:17.08 | numist | bleh |
| 06:17.19 | scanlime | you ideally need SRAM, to get good battery live |
| 06:17.22 | scanlime | SRAM is hella-expenvie |
| 06:17.26 | scanlime | er, expensive |
| 06:17.30 | numist | right |
| 06:17.35 | scanlime | last time I priced it (in low quantities) it was about $8/megabyte |
| 06:17.38 | numist | ouch |
| 06:17.49 | numist | ok, scrap that |
| 06:17.56 | scanlime | DRAM is cheap, but requires a lot of power to make nonvolatile |
| 06:18.00 | scanlime | that's why FLASH is good |
| 06:18.08 | scanlime | if you want speed, you can buffer the flash with dram |
| 06:18.17 | scanlime | but the operating system already does this |
| 06:18.28 | purple_cow | well, maybe not so fondly |
| 06:18.32 | scanlime | ah yes.. the palm is a great example of battery-backed DRAM |
| 06:18.37 | scanlime | batteries last weeks, not years |
| 06:18.47 | scanlime | battery-backed SRAM could last a decade with a good lithium cell |
| 06:19.03 | numist | hrm |
| 06:19.19 | scanlime | video game cartridges that let you save your game have SRAM and a lithium battery in them |
| 06:19.31 | scanlime | occasionally you'll see very old carts have their battery die |
| 06:19.42 | scanlime | some unofficial NES carts even had doors for replacing the battery |
| 06:19.44 | purple_cow | really? i didn't know that :) |
| 06:19.48 | scanlime | yup |
| 06:20.02 | scanlime | I have a copy of The Fantastic Adventures of Dizzy which I believe has a door.. Zelda II might have also |
| 06:20.03 | numist | hey, I had an FZero cart that didnt work... |
| 06:20.06 | scanlime | can't remember |
| 06:20.11 | numist | damnit I already returned it.. |
| 06:20.18 | numist | I couldnt open it for the life of me either.. some weird scre |
| 06:20.19 | numist | w |
| 06:20.33 | scanlime | purple_cow: doubt it.. I don't think they had gold foil capacitors back then |
| 06:20.54 | purple_cow | oh noes! |
| 06:21.06 | scanlime | woudln't really put it past them to use a rechargable battery.. but that would be a bit pricy probably |
| 06:21.11 | scanlime | or you could open it and replace the battery if it ever dies |
| 06:21.20 | purple_cow | or that |
| 06:21.37 | scanlime | I managed to get a screwdriver kit that will open pretty much every video game system or cart ever made for $20 on ebay :) |
| 06:21.58 | scanlime | that thing has saved my butt in lot of situations.. even opened our vacuum cleaner |
| 06:22.04 | purple_cow | :) |
| 06:22.12 | purple_cow | so i saw a psp in real life for the first time today |
| 06:22.15 | purple_cow | damn those things are sexy |
| 06:22.18 | scanlime | aren't they cuuuute? |
| 06:22.49 | numist | heh |
| 06:23.46 | numist | oh dear, that drive is making an unhappy noise... |
| 06:24.51 | scanlime | oh yeah.. I wanted to submit a PTO request didn't I... |
| 06:24.57 | purple_cow | huh |
| 06:25.02 | purple_cow | and now a guy is boxing food |
| 06:25.12 | purple_cow | this is definitely one of the strangest shows i've ever seen |
| 06:25.25 | scanlime | how's it compare to Excel Saga? |
| 06:25.57 | scanlime | ooh |
| 06:26.00 | purple_cow | less totally random, but still, one of the strangest i've ever seen |
| 06:26.11 | purple_cow | did you ever watch jungle deluxe? :) |
| 06:26.15 | scanlime | I think I'll have enough PTO for two vacation days by the end of september |
| 06:26.34 | scanlime | hmm, I can't remember. Once I figure out which disk it's on I'll take a look... |
| 06:27.03 | scanlime | I think I might just dump all the big stuff like Star Trek and the Simpsons so that I can have a lot of randomness readily accessable.. if I want the big stuff back, it's on navi-backup. |
| 06:27.11 | purple_cow | if you're going to sleep talk, do it when you're sleeping! |
| 06:27.16 | scanlime | :) |
| 06:29.45 | purple_cow | hmm |
| 06:29.57 | purple_cow | somehow, with the way things are placed, my bookcase is acting as a subwoofer |
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| 06:32.00 | scanlime | hmm :) |
| 06:35.08 | purple_cow | hurray! |
| 06:35.33 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r8816 10xchat-gnome/fe-gnome/fe-gnome.c: use G_OPTION_ARG_FILENAME instead of G_OPTION_ARG_STRING |
| 06:39.51 | purple_cow | huh |
| 06:40.10 | purple_cow | and now maromi is explaining the jobs of each of the main people involved in producing an anime TV show |
| 06:40.28 | scanlime | haha |
| 06:40.32 | scanlime | maromi is so cute |
| 06:40.53 | scanlime | not PSP-cute.. but close |
| 06:41.44 | scanlime | I should bike home. My laundry is certainly done by now... |
| 06:42.06 | scanlime | then I can get maybe 5 hours of sleep at home and 1 on the train |
| 06:42.11 | ChipX86 | mmmm... salad... |
| 06:42.18 | purple_cow | scanlime: train? |
| 06:42.37 | scanlime | planning on taking caltrain to SF in the morning for the conference |
| 06:42.46 | purple_cow | ahh |
| 06:44.18 | scanlime | ChipX86: I'm pretty sure you could get to work way faster if you biked, based on how close you are |
| 06:44.32 | ChipX86 | yeah, I could |
| 06:44.42 | ChipX86 | I don't feel confident biking with a laptop, and I actually love being on the bus |
| 06:45.01 | scanlime | aw |
| 06:45.08 | scanlime | you need a laptop crappy enough that you dont' mind biking with it ;) |
| 06:45.13 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 06:45.35 | ChipX86 | I guess my current laptop is! :) |
| 06:45.47 | ChipX86 | but it doesn't stay on for very long, so it's not even worth bringing to work |
| 06:46.34 | purple_cow | sweet zombie jesus this show is weird |
| 06:50.37 | ChipX86 | websudoku is evil. |
| 06:50.48 | ChipX86 | and I need to break free from its grasp |
| 06:50.54 | ChipX86 | after this level. |
| 06:51.03 | purple_cow | hehe |
| 06:51.10 | purple_cow | it's like tickypip! |
| 06:51.14 | ChipX86 | yep |
| 06:51.19 | ChipX86 | which I need to finish and release |
| 06:51.31 | ChipX86 | it won't take much, but I just haven't done it |
| 06:53.05 | purple_cow | scanlime: ok, this is definitely weirder than excel saga ;) |
| 06:53.11 | ChipX86 | what is it? |
| 06:53.22 | purple_cow | paranoia agent |
| 06:54.02 | ChipX86 | meh, any time I eat something, my stomach starts to hurt. |
| 06:54.23 | purple_cow | :( |
| 06:54.40 | ChipX86 | trying to fight this thing |
| 06:55.01 | ChipX86 | I should work on taco! |
| 06:55.06 | purple_cow | yes! |
| 06:55.44 | purple_cow | man, having a bookcase-size subwoofer is cool |
| 06:55.53 | purple_cow | i wish i could turn it down a bit though |
| 06:56.01 | purple_cow | at least i'm above the laundry room |
| 06:58.17 | purple_cow | hmm. seems like after a couple hours of watching stuff, the brown spot on the TV is mostly gone. still crooked though |
| 06:58.27 | ChipX86 | new TV? |
| 06:59.15 | purple_cow | yeah |
| 06:59.20 | purple_cow | going to take it back tomorrow :P |
| 06:59.22 | ChipX86 | yeah good idea |
| 06:59.27 | ChipX86 | what kind is it? |
| 06:59.33 | purple_cow | philips |
| 06:59.48 | purple_cow | other than the crookedness and the brown spot it looks fantastic :P |
| 06:59.52 | ChipX86 | :) |
| 07:00.14 | purple_cow | it was the last one at costco though. maybe they'll have more tomorrow |
| 07:00.25 | ChipX86 | just tell them that ever since you stuck your magnet collection on it it just hasn't been working right |
| 07:01.05 | purple_cow | contrary to popular belief, i'd actually like them to *do* something about the problems other than laugh |
| 07:01.14 | ChipX86 | aww, that's no fun |
| 07:01.44 | ChipX86 | Microsoft Proposes Cooperative Research With OSDL |
| 07:01.59 | nullpuppy | hmm, interesting |
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| 07:26.00 | ChipX86 | I can't find any good example of mono and System.Drawing |
| 07:26.05 | purple_cow | hurray for temporary crap |
| 07:26.08 | purple_cow | ChipX86: looked at fyre2? |
| 07:26.13 | ChipX86 | I was hoping for a tiny example |
| 07:26.31 | purple_cow | it's really not that big :P |
| 07:27.08 | purple_cow | PipelineDrawing.cs and CanvasElement.cs iirc |
| 07:27.18 | ChipX86 | what's the repository url nowadays? |
| 07:29.02 | purple_cow | svn.navi.cx/misc/trunk/... |
| 07:29.13 | ChipX86 | oh, it was the misc part I was missing |
| 07:35.00 | ChipX86 | I'm finding it hard to name classes for this project :) |
| 07:49.03 | scanlime | hungry... |
| 07:49.26 | scanlime | numist: mine is like that too |
| 07:49.33 | numist | scanlime: how weak is that |
| 07:49.41 | ChipX86 | ? |
| 07:50.01 | numist | ChipX86: out power adaptors that came with our usb ide controllers are only wired for one ground |
| 07:50.07 | numist | the other hole is blank |
| 07:50.39 | scanlime | on mine the +5v side had a ground |
| 07:50.44 | scanlime | it really doesn't matter... |
| 07:50.46 | numist | mine had a higher ampere rating than the power supply I replaced too.. how sad |
| 07:51.12 | numist | no, it doesnt, unless you try to power something with a molex that only has 2 active pins... 12v + and ground |
| 07:51.14 | ChipX86 | purple_cow: I imagine I'll be ripping off a large portion of PipelineDrawing if you don't mind |
| 07:54.46 | purple_cow | ChipX86: it's GPL ;) |
| 07:55.00 | ChipX86 | I know, but I still like to inform the author and get permission. |
| 07:55.04 | ChipX86 | especially if I know the person |
| 07:55.18 | scanlime | numist: yeah. I ended up having to use my crazy YY adaptor which also connects all the grounds together |
| 07:56.14 | numist | nice |
| 07:56.20 | numist | X? |
| 07:56.29 | scanlime | where's the input? |
| 07:56.36 | numist | Z-Axis ;) |
| 07:56.50 | numist | coming towards you, but you cant see it :D |
| 07:56.53 | scanlime | ahh |
| 07:56.57 | scanlime | a 3D X |
| 07:57.18 | numist | musing of a tired mind... Im off to bed |
| 07:57.25 | numist | see you guys tomorrow |
| 07:57.27 | scanlime | mmm, sammich... |
| 07:57.34 | ChipX86 | g'nighjt |
| 07:58.13 | scanlime | hmm |
| 07:58.19 | scanlime | it's colder here than it feels |
| 07:58.25 | scanlime | 53 degree lows according to google |
| 07:59.17 | scanlime | I need to get my therms back online |
| 07:59.42 | scanlime | I should really simplify them enough I can run the whole therm server off of warzok, without a separate CPU-killing mysql database |
| 08:00.22 | scanlime | bet it could just be a tiny little daemon in C that decodes the radio packets, calls rrdtool, and updates static HTML pages |
| 08:02.24 | scanlime | oh. maybe google's low temperatures are screwy |
| 08:02.29 | scanlime | the panel applet says it's 73 degrees |
| 08:02.36 | scanlime | definitely feels cooler than that though |
| 08:02.59 | scanlime | I hope I'm not getting used to california's lack of climate :( |
| 08:03.23 | ChipX86 | yay california |
| 08:03.52 | scanlime | what's the use of having a therm server, it will probably just generate completely flat graphs... |
| 08:09.03 | scanlime | wowee |
| 08:09.11 | scanlime | ubuntu makes printing fun |
| 08:09.18 | ChipX86 | :) |
| 08:09.20 | ChipX86 | lot nicer |
| 08:09.25 | scanlime | it's like they actually integrate cups into gnome nicely |
| 08:09.48 | scanlime | and it even has an ubuntu test page |
| 08:09.49 | scanlime | how cute |
| 08:09.59 | ChipX86 | more distros need an ubuntu test page |
| 08:10.16 | scanlime | :) |
| 08:10.25 | scanlime | ugg |
| 08:10.29 | scanlime | I'm not getting much sleep tonight |
| 08:10.35 | ChipX86 | :( |
| 08:14.04 | ChipX86 | purple_cow: where am I supposed to find this gtk-dotnet-2.0 thing? |
| 08:17.08 | purple_cow | hmm |
| 08:17.58 | purple_cow | david@kirby ~ $ equery belongs /usr/lib/pkgconfig/gtk-dotnet-2.0.pc |
| 08:17.58 | purple_cow | [ Searching for file(s) /usr/lib/pkgconfig/gtk-dotnet-2.0.pc in *... ] |
| 08:17.58 | purple_cow | dev-dotnet/gtk-sharp-2.5.90 (/usr/lib/pkgconfig/gtk-dotnet-2.0.pc) |
| 08:18.06 | ChipX86 | oh, not ubuntu. Bah. |
| 08:18.07 | purple_cow | ubuntu might break it out into a separate package |
| 08:18.19 | ChipX86 | I'm having a hell of a time finding it |
| 08:18.21 | ChipX86 | if it exists at all |
| 08:20.04 | ChipX86 | well, that's certainly annoying. Doesn't appear to be in these builds |
| 08:20.33 | purple_cow | :( |
| 08:21.12 | scanlime | oh, damn |
| 08:21.22 | scanlime | I meant to bring my VMware backpack home and take it to IDF ;) |
| 08:21.57 | purple_cow | ChipX86: i'd ask someone about it. no gtk-dotnet means no System.Drawing |
| 08:22.03 | ChipX86 | yeah. |
| 08:22.27 | purple_cow | unless that changed in the last few months |
| 08:22.41 | purple_cow | but i still have the .pc with my 2.5.90, so prolly not |
| 08:23.00 | scanlime | whoa... |
| 08:23.11 | scanlime | I just found a Canon battery charger in my messenger bag |
| 08:23.12 | scanlime | this isn't mine |
| 08:23.24 | purple_cow | you have a messenger bag? |
| 08:23.34 | scanlime | really cheap one =D |
| 08:24.17 | scanlime | if anyone's missing a charger for 4.2V Canon batteries, let me know :P |
| 08:24.28 | ChipX86 | I have 1.9.5 |
| 08:24.33 | ChipX86 | that should be new enough |
| 08:25.12 | ChipX86 | or, maybe not |
| 08:25.16 | purple_cow | wasn't 1.9 the development series for a branch they decided never to release? |
| 08:25.17 | ChipX86 | I'm seeing two different versioning schemes |
| 08:28.34 | scanlime | uggh |
| 08:28.49 | purple_cow | how early is that? |
| 08:30.10 | scanlime | 4:15 |
| 08:30.59 | purple_cow | still better than me waking up at 3:30 to go to LA :P |
| 08:31.31 | purple_cow | but not by enough |
| 08:32.18 | ChipX86 | well, I've lost all motivation. |
| 08:32.25 | purple_cow | :( |
| 08:33.29 | scanlime | purple_cow: long train ride and a fair bit of walking to get to the convention center from here.. and I'd like to be there when it opens at 7:00 |
| 08:33.40 | scanlime | but if I'm there late, not a huge problem |
| 08:33.49 | purple_cow | the best part about living alone is that if i want to be naked, i can be! |
| 08:33.50 | scanlime | I miss the keynote and continental breakfast maybe... |
| 08:33.54 | scanlime | purple_cow: yes! |
| 08:34.35 | purple_cow | 'night |
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| 12:58.33 | rioter | never |
| 13:02.19 | gonkulator | yay, its a rioter |
| 13:03.40 | gonkulator | is that where you are? |
| 13:04.17 | rioter | yeah i am |
| 13:04.27 | gonkulator | do you think you're gonna be there in 3 years :) |
| 13:04.35 | rioter | more than likely |
| 13:04.42 | rioter | cant see any reason to move atm |
| 13:04.56 | gonkulator | mkay |
| 13:05.24 | gonkulator | well, if you're interested in meeting up for coffee when I'm down, I'll keep you posted |
| 13:05.38 | rioter | cool, why you heading down here/ |
| 13:05.48 | gonkulator | World Youth Day |
| 13:06.20 | gonkulator | I'll probably be a chaperone or something |
| 13:07.26 | rioter | haha |
| 13:07.26 | gonkulator | but I will be coming down |
| 13:08.10 | rioter | cool |
| 13:11.42 | gonkulator | rioter: thanks for anouncing yourself, I'm takin off :) |
| 13:12.00 | rioter | cya |
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| 14:22.46 | kergoth_ | morning |
| 14:22.53 | kergoth_ | jesus xchat-gnome is unstable. look at its preferences funny and it crashes |
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| 14:25.14 | Veight | hello |
| 14:25.33 | kergoth_ | ~mornings |
| 14:25.34 | jbot | Mornings MUST be destroyed! (see also http://www.destroymornings.com/) |
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| 14:35.51 | kergoth | back to regular xchat |
| 14:35.52 | kergoth | heh |
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| 15:29.15 | darth_mall | my dad was on cspan-2 this morning ^^ |
| 15:29.23 | lurgy | spiffy :) |
| 15:29.26 | darth_mall | yep |
| 15:29.29 | darth_mall | he did very well, I thought |
| 15:29.48 | file[laptop] | yay |
| 15:29.51 | lurgy | :D |
| 15:40.15 | file[laptop] | lurgyness! |
| 15:47.22 | kergoth | grr |
| 15:48.45 | darth_mall | morning ker |
| 15:50.25 | kergoth | morning |
| 15:50.33 | kergoth | ~emulate zim |
| 15:50.34 | jbot | my SPINE! |
| 15:51.15 | numist | so, I tried copying all the uber stuff to my usb array, and forgot to use my usb2 pcmcia controller, so its on usb 1 right now |
| 15:51.21 | numist | and its not even half done |
| 15:55.36 | KeyserS | argh. in lynxos, /usr/bin is a symlink to /bin |
| 15:55.51 | kergoth | heh |
| 15:56.03 | KeyserS | and guess where loadable kernel modules go? |
| 15:56.06 | KeyserS | /usr/etc |
| 15:56.45 | KeyserS | no, wait, that was wrong. the info file for a kernel module goes in /usr/etc |
| 15:56.54 | KeyserS | the module itself goes in the aforementioned /usr/bin |
| 15:58.38 | kergoth | heh |
| 16:07.51 | kergoth | ~emulate peter |
| 16:07.53 | jbot | NOOOOOO. Silly rabbit, Trix are for kids. Damn longears, trying to take Easter away from Jesus. Anyway, what was that you were saying? |
| 16:08.18 | nullpuppy | whooo! jbot's back! |
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| 16:13.51 | numist | hehe |
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| 16:39.06 | kergoth | ip_route_me_harder is such a great function name |
| 16:40.30 | kergoth | i like this being employed thing. much less boring than the alternative |
| 16:40.34 | kergoth | :P |
| 16:40.53 | numist | and more profitable |
| 16:40.59 | kergoth | indeed. |
| 16:41.10 | file | so I just got some cool news |
| 16:41.17 | numist | oh? |
| 16:41.24 | file | work is moving our financial stuff to Canada, so I might get direct deposit pay |
| 16:41.32 | numist | neato! |
| 16:41.40 | kergoth | nice |
| 16:41.47 | kergoth | gotta love direct deposit |
| 16:41.54 | kergoth | speakng of whcih, i need to set that up myself |
| 16:41.56 | file | yeah my bank gives me points, worth $20 in free groceries |
| 16:42.09 | file | for the first direct deposit. |
| 16:56.58 | numist | guh, this t-sql is making my brain hurt |
| 17:05.07 | kergoth | ~/code/libnfnetlink_conntrack$ svn up -r4147 |
| 17:05.09 | kergoth | svn: REPORT request failed on '/netfilter/!svn/vcc/default' |
| 17:05.09 | kergoth | svn: |
| 17:05.09 | kergoth | Cannot replace a directory from within |
| 17:05.09 | kergoth | ow. |
| 17:05.31 | numist | nice |
| 17:21.58 | nullpuppy | Mem: 1001 992 9 0 0 165 |
| 17:21.59 | nullpuppy | -/+ buffers/cache: 826 175 |
| 17:21.59 | nullpuppy | Swap: 494 280 213 |
| 17:22.09 | nullpuppy | whoops |
| 17:23.12 | kergoth | heh |
| 17:23.59 | purple_cow | blah, sr project is in 1b40 |
| 17:30.27 | nullpuppy | kergoth: http://curse-gaming.com/mod.php?addid=1964 |
| 17:31.11 | kergoth | nullpuppy: neat |
| 17:31.19 | kergoth | morning chip |
| 17:32.06 | ChipX86 | morning |
| 17:32.14 | ChipX86 | Ross Burton is writing galago support for gossip :) |
| 17:32.19 | ChipX86 | hell is freezing over |
| 17:32.23 | numist | nice |
| 17:33.18 | ChipX86 | man, sounds like google's actually launching an instant messenger... |
| 17:33.25 | numist | :o |
| 17:33.29 | ChipX86 | you know, it's funny. People hate Microsoft for trying to take over the world, btu they just allow google to do it |
| 17:33.30 | numist | what will it be based on? |
| 17:33.35 | ChipX86 | sounds like it might be jabber |
| 17:33.49 | numist | they just allowed microsoft to do it too... they only care now that its happened |
| 17:33.55 | numist | 'how could we be so dumb?' |
| 17:34.01 | ChipX86 | heh |
| 17:34.15 | nullpuppy | actually.. i think its more how they did it.. |
| 17:34.18 | numist | of course, the funny thing about humans is that we never learn |
| 17:34.30 | numist | true, microsoft did it ruthlessly and without regard to others |
| 17:34.34 | ChipX86 | seems all a company has to do is make some free things and have marketting come up with a "we're not evil" thing |
| 17:34.37 | nullpuppy | google isn't raping us, they aren't really controlling the market |
| 17:34.42 | numist | google is the benevolent dictator of the interweb |
| 17:34.57 | numist | think of a world without google |
| 17:35.01 | numist | they control the market afaict |
| 17:35.19 | purple_cow | huh. google has a dashboard |
| 17:35.29 | numist | the first weeks would be awful, but eventually the search engine wars would begin again |
| 17:35.41 | nullpuppy | well.. they influence the search market a lot, yeah, with out what they've done, search would suck |
| 17:35.44 | nullpuppy | yeah |
| 17:36.33 | numist | so, theyre more like a novelty thats become as big as time warner |
| 17:36.41 | numist | which is really scary if you stop to think about it |
| 17:37.05 | nullpuppy | yeah, in some ways |
| 17:39.07 | numist | hrm.. Ive been thinking more and more about scanlime's idea to make a controller that would allow spin down on idle drives... I wonder if it could be automated so it's not os-dependant |
| 17:40.47 | purple_cow | why would you need the OS to do anything? |
| 17:45.36 | ChipX86 | Logitech MX1000 Laser Cordless Mouse for $34 shipped after rebate |
| 17:45.53 | nullpuppy | damn |
| 17:45.53 | ChipX86 | just a matter of getting that rebate in :) |
| 17:46.03 | nullpuppy | yup ;) |
| 17:46.15 | ChipX86 | still, $60 is better than $70 at Frys |
| 17:46.22 | ChipX86 | and this Dell mouse is hurting my hand |
| 17:46.58 | ChipX86 | or $80 maybe it was |
| 17:48.05 | file | kergoth: alive in there? |
| 17:48.57 | ChipX86 | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:48.57 | ChipX86 | meh |
| 17:49.14 | ChipX86 | but they put it up today on dealnews :( |
| 17:49.33 | ChipX86 | ahh it's valid still |
| 17:49.35 | ChipX86 | $54 |
| 17:50.00 | nullpuppy | okie dokey.. time for work.. later |
| 17:50.03 | nullpuppy | *poof* |
| 17:50.29 | kergoth | file: somewhat |
| 17:50.46 | file | kergoth: http://www.woot.com/ go look |
| 17:52.16 | purple_cow | time to go to school |
| 17:52.23 | ChipX86 | :( |
| 17:52.34 | kergoth | hmmm |
| 17:53.06 | file | kergoth: isn't that spooky? |
| 17:53.23 | CIA-5 | osiris-misc: 03chipx86 * r200 10taco/ (ChangeLog configure.ac): Require gtk-dotnet-2.0. If you're on Ubuntu Hoary, you'll have to compile gtk-sharp-2.0 yourself :( |
| 17:58.27 | ChipX86 | widgets/Canvas.cs(63) error CS1502: The best overloaded match for method 'System.Drawing.Graphics Gtk.DotNet.Graphics.FromDrawable (Gdk.Drawable)' has some invalid arguments |
| 17:58.30 | ChipX86 | widgets/Canvas.cs(63) error CS1503: Argument 0: Cannot convert from 'Gdk.Drawable' to 'Gdk.Drawable' |
| 17:58.41 | ChipX86 | I'm confused. |
| 17:58.57 | file | I'm Joshua, nice to meet you confused! |
| 18:00.21 | kergoth | ~fishslap file |
| 18:00.24 | jbot | ACTION slaps file up side the head with a wet fish. |
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| 18:00.38 | file | hi pagefault |
| 18:00.39 | pagefault | hey |
| 18:00.40 | pagefault | whats up |
| 18:01.17 | file | guiding someone through the setup process of our service |
| 18:01.37 | pagefault | cool |
| 18:01.50 | pagefault | tech support? |
| 18:01.58 | file | kinda |
| 18:02.15 | file | he's asking just... ugh |
| 18:02.32 | pagefault | hehe |
| 18:02.33 | file | <slak-> okay im on the choose your toll free number page |
| 18:02.33 | file | <slak-> whats the search box for |
| 18:02.33 | file | <file> you can search for a combination of numbers if you want |
| 18:02.44 | file | amazing what a search box could be for |
| 18:02.47 | pagefault | haha |
| 18:02.55 | kergoth | *gasp* a search box for searching. |
| 18:02.58 | kergoth | amazing |
| 18:04.03 | file | <slak-> a numeric password? |
| 18:04.03 | file | <slak-> whats up with that |
| 18:04.03 | file | <file> a password that's made of numbers :P |
| 18:05.17 | pagefault | oh man I feel sorry for you man |
| 18:07.18 | file | now he wants us to configure his Asterisk for him |
| 18:08.35 | pagefault | haha |
| 18:08.37 | pagefault | thats a big deal |
| 18:08.50 | pagefault | the config file is nuts |
| 18:11.36 | pagefault | I think I should be a gmail beta tester |
| 18:13.35 | pagefault | brb |
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| 18:17.37 | pagefault | guess what time it is |
| 18:17.41 | pagefault | time for WoW |
| 18:17.43 | numist | its peanut butter jelly time |
| 18:17.46 | numist | oh.. damn |
| 18:30.16 | Veight | heh |
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| 18:31.07 | Veight | .... that was cheap i had wow minimized i come back with like 100 health and die from a stranglethorn tiger |
| 18:31.22 | numist | d'oh |
| 19:17.01 | purple_cow | bleh. second day and i'm already tired of it :P |
| 19:17.15 | numist | :( |
| 19:17.55 | kergoth | second day of what? school? |
| 19:18.12 | numist | yeah |
| 19:18.17 | kergoth | ah. |
| 19:18.51 | darth_darth | heh |
| 19:19.03 | darth_darth | fucking cu connect |
| 19:19.09 | purple_cow | but... |
| 19:19.18 | purple_cow | apparently bela fleck and edgar meyer are playing a concert |
| 19:19.22 | darth_darth | ooh |
| 19:19.26 | darth_darth | when and where? |
| 19:20.41 | purple_cow | http://www.cuconcerts.org/fleck.html |
| 19:21.11 | darth_darth | hmm |
| 19:21.14 | darth_darth | I should talk to my folks about that |
| 19:22.12 | purple_cow | hahaha |
| 19:22.14 | purple_cow | yay typos |
| 19:22.17 | purple_cow | ``The man was expected to appear before the Brisbane Magistrates Court on Tuesday, charged with importing regulated live specimens without a permit. He faces a maximum penalty of 10 years in jail and a fine of up to 110,000 Australian dollars ($83) if convicted.'' |
| 19:24.22 | darth_darth | I like Martin |
| 19:24.36 | purple_cow | robert moog died :( |
| 19:24.38 | darth_darth | ``I could say 'do everything in C++', which I *hate*'' |
| 19:25.09 | darth_darth | yay for getting to do AI in Python |
| 19:25.36 | darth_darth | it almost makes up for having to software eng. in Java |
| 19:26.02 | purple_cow | hehe |
| 19:26.03 | purple_cow | almost |
| 19:29.21 | purple_cow | eek |
| 19:30.16 | purple_cow | if i connect directly to freenode, i can reproduce 314213 :( |
| 19:30.35 | darth_darth | which one's that? |
| 19:30.54 | purple_cow | no lick list :P |
| 19:31.19 | darth_darth | I'm directly connected to freenode and I didn't have a problem |
| 19:32.42 | purple_cow | listen! zombie corpses are your problem, not mine! |
| 19:32.51 | darth_darth | hehe |
| 19:33.33 | purple_cow | go suck a camel hump! |
| 19:33.37 | purple_cow | what an awesome comic |
| 19:41.17 | darth_darth | purple_cow: we've got senior project this afternoon at like 3:30, don't we? |
| 19:41.20 | purple_cow | yep |
| 19:41.35 | darth_darth | goddamn cuconnect being down for the last 1.5 hours |
| 19:41.49 | slimspace | purple_cow, darth_darth: Have we decided on a project yet? |
| 19:41.58 | slimspace | darth_darth: yes |
| 19:42.21 | purple_cow | slimspace: i want to do the "3d media center interface" |
| 19:42.21 | darth_darth | slimspace: purple_cow found one that looked really cool, but we havcen't gotten to pick yet |
| 19:42.35 | slimspace | that sounds cool |
| 19:42.58 | purple_cow | 'cuz those of us who don't have freevo boxes will be building them, and i really liked that spinny menu that scanlime wrote before we were using freevo ;) |
| 19:43.00 | purple_cow | and it's in python ;) |
| 19:43.58 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r8817 10xchat-gnome/fe-gnome/navigation-tree.c: explicity set the userlist model when we create a new channel |
| 19:44.38 | slimspace | purple_cow: yeah, that sounds great |
| 19:45.12 | purple_cow | i'm just hoping that we're not the only people drooling at it :P |
| 19:45.28 | darth_darth | why's that? |
| 19:45.50 | purple_cow | because i'd like to get it, and if half the class wants the same, it's less likely |
| 19:46.03 | purple_cow | err, i said that backwards |
| 19:46.13 | purple_cow | damn school making me stupid |
| 19:46.20 | slimspace | :) |
| 19:46.34 | darth_darth | ok, that makes more sense ^^ |
| 19:46.47 | slimspace | I don't imagine too many people have experience in 3D programming |
| 19:47.06 | slimspace | just not in python |
| 19:47.13 | purple_cow | has anyone else noticed the new metacity being dumb with maximized windows? |
| 19:47.23 | slimspace | which version? |
| 19:47.27 | darth_darth | purple_cow: I think so |
| 19:47.37 | purple_cow | slimspace: well, we'd probably end up using/extending pybzengine ;) |
| 19:47.43 | darth_darth | if by "being dumb" you mean not remembering when a window was maximized |
| 19:47.46 | slimspace | purple_cow: mmm...:) |
| 19:47.48 | purple_cow | slimspace: whatever the 2.11 one is that's masked |
| 19:47.56 | slimspace | ah. Not using that one |
| 19:48.14 | purple_cow | darth_darth: well, that, plus it's demaximizing terminals momentarily when i log out |
| 19:48.19 | darth_darth | huh |
| 19:49.00 | purple_cow | my CPU speed is turned down to the lowest setting, so it might not be noticible for you |
| 19:49.30 | purple_cow | ok, i should probably head towards my next silly music class |
| 19:49.38 | darth_darth | no |
| 19:53.32 | darth_darth | slimspace: senior project is in 1B40, isn't it? |
| 19:54.15 | slimspace | darth_darth: yeah |
| 19:54.58 | darth_darth | k |
| 19:55.19 | kergoth | heh, first time i looked at that my brain registered 'UB40' rather than 1B40, and got confused |
| 19:56.40 | darth_darth | ub40? |
| 19:57.11 | kergoth | old band, did "red red wine" |
| 19:57.17 | darth_darth | oh |
| 19:57.21 | darth_darth | I knew that was familiar |
| 19:57.23 | kergoth | hehe |
| 19:58.43 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10bzflag/src/bzflag/RadarRenderer.cxx: don't compute it if you don't need it. |
| 20:04.28 | KeyserS | wouldn't calling write() on stdout write binary stuff to stdout? |
| 20:05.53 | KeyserS | issat local to you? |
| 20:05.57 | KeyserS | or didja travel? |
| 20:06.41 | scanlime | it's in sf |
| 20:06.42 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10bzflag/src/bzflag/RadarRenderer.cxx: don't compute it if you don't need it. |
| 20:07.31 | kergoth | KeyserS: "binary stuff"? |
| 20:08.20 | KeyserS | um, so how do you just send raw non-ascii ints to stdout? |
| 20:09.43 | KeyserS | there's an ioctl i can do to copy the framebuffer into my buffer, and then i want to write it to stdout just like if you did "cat /dev/fb0" |
| 20:10.17 | kergoth | write() or fwrite() would be fine. |
| 20:10.37 | KeyserS | so if i do write() on "stdout", it should work? |
| 20:10.59 | kergoth | if you do write() on stdout, itd write to stdout |
| 20:11.36 | kergoth | if stdout is a console virtual terminal or something, you might not see much, since a lot of it wouldnt be displayable in your current character set |
| 20:11.45 | kergoth | so obviously a redirect to a file would be your friend |
| 20:11.47 | kergoth | heh |
| 20:12.14 | KeyserS | ah, so maybe since it was a black screen, all the nulls didn't do anything in my terminal |
| 20:13.01 | scanlime | lots of wimax, dual core,and fb-dimm hype |
| 20:13.07 | kergoth | heh |
| 20:13.54 | kergoth | mm, arby's roast beef |
| 20:15.47 | KeyserS | strangely tasty, although it appears to have nothing to do with beef |
| 20:15.49 | KeyserS | or meat |
| 20:17.01 | kergoth | damn usb-storage |
| 20:17.08 | kergoth | still flaky, though its better in current kernels than it used to be |
| 20:17.48 | kergoth | depends on the reader. the windows drivers have workarounds for countless devices. linux isnt so lucky to have access to that information |
| 20:17.49 | kergoth | :\ |
| 20:17.56 | KeyserS | god damnit. that fucker stole my nick again. |
| 20:18.02 | kergoth | heh |
| 20:18.35 | KeyserS | am i the only person this happens to? |
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| 20:18.51 | darth_darth | purple_cow: I did see that unmaximizing windows problem |
| 20:19.01 | darth_darth | that's probably why my x-g windows don't come up maximized anymore |
| 20:20.00 | KeyserSoze | so *this* time, all i had to do was a recover, and then try changing my nick about 20 times |
| 20:22.02 | KeyserSoze | any reason why a single write() call for 1572864 bytes would be bad? |
| 20:23.32 | ToyKeeper | Maybe on a system with very little memory... but even PDAs should be able to handle that much nowadays. |
| 20:31.57 | kergoth | blehh |
| 20:33.57 | kergoth | darth_darth: what version of x-g do you use? the last release seems unstable as hell |
| 20:34.09 | darth_darth | kergoth: svn |
| 20:34.13 | kergoth | k |
| 20:34.16 | darth_darth | what with the developing I do infrequently ^^ |
| 20:35.19 | purple_cow | yay infrequent! |
| 20:39.11 | KeyserSoze | ah, errno of 9, bad file descriptor. for some reason i thought i could just pass stdout to write().... |
| 20:40.07 | KeyserSoze | it works for fprintf, is probably what confused me |
| 20:40.39 | ToyKeeper | Er, I think you're supposed to be able to use it that way... but it's been a long time since I tried. |
| 20:40.51 | KeyserSoze | maybe i need fwrite instead of write? |
| 20:41.10 | ToyKeeper | Perhaps. |
| 20:41.24 | kergoth | if it works for fprintf, 'stdout' isnt a file descriptor |
| 20:41.31 | kergoth | and as such, wont work with write |
| 20:42.06 | ToyKeeper | Oh yeah, it's got two file types... been years since I used C. |
| 20:44.16 | kergoth | KeyserSoze: generally speaking, 1 is stdout, 0 is stdin, and 2 is stderr, but you wouldnt want to rely on that, i wouldnt think. |
| 20:45.05 | ToyKeeper | Heh, no. I made the mistake once of closing all open sockets by looping from 0 - the number of the last one opened, which was a nasty nasty kludge. |
| 20:45.26 | kergoth | hehe |
| 20:45.46 | kergoth | confused how? |
| 20:45.51 | ToyKeeper | (hence why LCDproc would print "bye" 3 times before exiting) |
| 20:46.38 | kergoth | hehe |
| 20:46.45 | kergoth | how enthusiastic |
| 20:46.49 | KeyserSoze | ah, nevermind. first manpage i found online was a screwy mac os x one |
| 20:47.38 | ToyKeeper | Er, just install the libc docs, and use "info" or similar to look stuff up. :) |
| 20:48.04 | kergoth | grr, wtf |
| 20:48.13 | ToyKeeper | alias cref="info libc 'function index'" |
| 20:48.16 | ToyKeeper | cref write |
| 20:49.09 | KeyserSoze | stupid cygwin manpages actually have fwrite, i didn' |
| 20:49.13 | KeyserSoze | t notice that at first |
| 20:49.36 | kergoth | heh |
| 20:51.06 | kergoth | damnit |
| 20:51.09 | kergoth | what the hell is wrong with this code |
| 20:54.19 | ToyKeeper | My diagnosis is that it's out of whack. You need to give it more whack. |
| 20:54.56 | KeyserSoze | is it "whack" or "whacked" that's bad? |
| 20:55.28 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03evan * r8818 10xchat-gnome/plugins/notification/menu.h: |
| 20:55.28 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: The ChannelMenuItem class subclasses GtkImageMenuItem to track the status of |
| 20:55.29 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: each menu item. |
| 20:56.12 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r8819 10xchat-gnome/fe-gnome/userlist-gui.c: double-clicking on a user in the userlist opens a query |
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| 21:00.04 | KeyserSoze | I hate cygwin's installer |
| 21:00.31 | KeyserSoze | i wish there was just a command line tool to search for and install the packages i want |
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| 21:01.36 | KeyserSoze | i want to install imagemagick, and it's installing tons of other crap, too |
| 21:01.42 | KeyserSoze | probably gonna break everything |
| 21:01.56 | kergoth_ | hrm |
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| 21:04.13 | pagefault | hogwarts |
| 21:04.16 | pagefault | wee |
| 21:04.48 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03evan * r8820 10xchat-gnome/plugins/notification/menu.c: Function stubs. |
| 21:12.22 | kergoth_ | bleh! |
| 21:12.56 | kergoth_ | ~emulate chris |
| 21:12.59 | kergoth_ | aw |
| 21:13.02 | kergoth_ | ~emulate peter |
| 21:13.03 | jbot | You know those Germans; if you don't join the party, they come get you. |
| 21:14.07 | pagefault | haha |
| 21:14.10 | pagefault | heh |
| 21:14.25 | pagefault | ~emulate peter |
| 21:14.27 | jbot | NOOOOOO. Silly rabbit, Trix are for kids. Damn longears, trying to take Easter away from Jesus. Anyway, what was that you were saying? |
| 21:14.55 | KeyserSoze | hehe |
| 21:16.36 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r8821 10motion/turing-data.gnumeric: datadatadata |
| 21:16.44 | pagefault | yay for data |
| 21:17.25 | KeyserSoze | does cat'ing the framebuffer in linux give you just the raw contents of the framebuffer? or is it formatted in anyway? |
| 21:17.47 | KeyserSoze | if raw, then that's what my screenshot program will do, so converting to a png ought to work the same... |
| 21:17.54 | kergoth_ | it isnt formatted |
| 21:18.03 | kergoth_ | just the raw contents of the framebuffer |
| 21:18.30 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03evan * r8822 10xchat-gnome/plugins/notification/menu.c: channel_menu_get_type mostly done. |
| 21:19.13 | KeyserSoze | ooh, i can get the contents of the fb on lynxos, and then pipe that file into the framebuffer on a linux box |
| 21:19.36 | kergoth_ | only if the framebuffers are the same format |
| 21:23.54 | KeyserSoze | how do you convert the raw framebuffer capture to an image? |
| 21:24.07 | KeyserSoze | the only thing i found on the web had converting it to PPM as an intermediate step |
| 21:24.15 | KeyserSoze | (which seems very inefficient) |
| 21:24.58 | kergoth_ | KeyserLaptop: http://hem.bredband.net/gmogmo/fbgrab/ |
| 21:25.12 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03evan * r8823 10xchat-gnome/plugins/notification/menu.c: Finish channel_menu_get_type |
| 21:27.28 | ToyKeeper | Hmm. I never remembered to put raw2ppm on my site. |
| 21:31.17 | darth_darth | I really hate the phrase 'administrivia' |
| 21:31.34 | purple_cow | let's fight him! |
| 21:31.34 | ChipX86 | ewww |
| 21:31.37 | darth_darth | haha |
| 21:31.40 | darth_darth | JIHAD! |
| 21:31.44 | KeyserSoze | where do you get raw2ppm? |
| 21:32.53 | darth_darth | oh |
| 21:32.54 | darth_darth | my |
| 21:32.55 | darth_darth | gawd |
| 21:33.08 | numist | oh? |
| 21:33.08 | darth_darth | is he seriously going through student by student to "get to know us"? |
| 21:33.16 | numist | ? |
| 21:33.29 | KeyserSoze | arg, so why is it known by raw2ppm and rawtoppm? |
| 21:33.29 | kergoth_ | you people really dont make me want to go back to school and get a degree |
| 21:33.34 | numist | yeah, same here |
| 21:33.36 | purple_cow | darth_darth: it's not that bad |
| 21:33.42 | purple_cow | at least we're not talking about our hobbies |
| 21:33.53 | darth_darth | oh, see, I thought that's what he was going to do |
| 21:33.55 | numist | I eat babies :) |
| 21:34.16 | kergoth_ | Tell him you support abortion, but only as a byproduct of your support for killing babies. |
| 21:34.26 | numist | buahahaha |
| 21:34.43 | kergoth_ | thats a tshirthell.com shirt :) |
| 21:36.25 | darth_darth | good shirt |
| 21:41.16 | KeyserSoze | is there a way to tell what gentoo package a file is in, if you don't have a gentoo box? |
| 21:42.22 | kergoth_ | UML makes me happy |
| 21:42.35 | KeyserSoze | or anyone want to tell me if raw16toraw24 is in directfb? |
| 21:43.16 | purple_cow | KeyserSoze: not really, since file contents are dependent on USE flags |
| 21:44.31 | KeyserSoze | oh, i meant if the executable named "raw16toraw24" is in the package named "directfb" |
| 21:44.50 | darth_darth | that usually leads me to the correct ebuild eventually |
| 21:45.32 | KeyserSoze | raw16toraw24 returns zero results, when searched for with "gentoo" or "ebuild" |
| 21:45.39 | purple_cow | darth_darth: what *is* this course all about? |
| 21:45.58 | KeyserSoze | i guess i'll have to get my laptop to see if it works, so i might as well get it to see if it's installed |
| 21:46.14 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03evan * r8824 10xchat-gnome/plugins/notification/menu.c: Some necessary GObject things. |
| 21:47.00 | kergoth_ | mm, i'm gonna run 3-4 user mode linux instances all attached to the uml_switch to pout them all on the same virtual network, and give one of the instances 4 interfaces on that network, then use vlan to segment the network and make those 4 interfaces appear to be on seperate networks with theo ther instances.. |
| 21:47.04 | purple_cow | it's a good thing there are bullets on those points |
| 21:47.11 | darth_darth | purple_cow: it's about moongoats |
| 21:47.21 | darth_darth | we are training to be moongoat herders |
| 21:47.25 | purple_cow | awesome |
| 21:47.30 | KeyserSoze | moongoats are a myth! |
| 21:47.34 | darth_darth | nuh uh |
| 21:47.37 | file[laptop] | isn't the moon made of cheese? |
| 21:47.45 | purple_cow | goats eat cheese |
| 21:47.45 | KeyserSoze | whatever you do, don't put cash down on the purchase of a moongoat! |
| 21:47.49 | kergoth_ | mmm, cheese |
| 21:47.50 | KeyserSoze | learn from my mistakes |
| 21:48.03 | purple_cow | KeyserSoze: you were fleeced? :P |
| 21:48.04 | file[laptop] | goats are eating the moon? isn't that bad? |
| 21:48.15 | darth_darth | KeyserSoze: http://stewped.com/air/view.php?date=2003-09-06 |
| 21:48.58 | KeyserSoze | um, those are moon-sheep |
| 21:49.07 | darth_darth | no, they are moongoats |
| 21:49.20 | darth_darth | hehe |
| 21:50.23 | KeyserSoze | rofl: http://stewped.com/air/view.php?date=2003-06-14 |
| 21:50.26 | ChipX86 | that is hilarious and wrong |
| 21:50.33 | darth_darth | purple_cow: which? |
| 21:50.45 | darth_darth | doh |
| 21:50.47 | darth_darth | not purple_cow |
| 21:50.49 | darth_darth | ChipX86: which? |
| 21:50.53 | ChipX86 | the moongoat one |
| 21:50.56 | darth_darth | ^^ |
| 21:51.21 | purple_cow | darth_darth: yes, you should |
| 21:51.46 | darth_darth | could probably do with an AiR and AiRoad theme too |
| 21:51.57 | purple_cow | CSN? |
| 21:51.59 | darth_darth | IT would be hard to make a theme |
| 21:52.01 | darth_darth | oooh good idea |
| 21:52.19 | ChipX86 | so we went to a good restaurant today |
| 21:52.23 | ChipX86 | it hasn't opened yet though |
| 21:52.24 | slimspace | blah |
| 21:52.32 | slimspace | ruined my 24-day uptime |
| 21:52.44 | darth_darth | uhoh... slimspace is turning into gonkulator! |
| 21:52.45 | darth_darth | ^^ |
| 21:52.54 | purple_cow | at least not on servers |
| 21:53.03 | KeyserSoze | "Auhm norght frlgings mah sizzle"? |
| 21:53.04 | slimspace | darth_darth: gonkulator does that? |
| 21:53.17 | darth_darth | he is (or at least was) somewhat obsessed with uptimes |
| 21:53.21 | KeyserSoze | "I'm not * my *"? |
| 21:53.33 | darth_darth | we'd get daily reports on how long his various machines had been up |
| 21:53.34 | KeyserSoze | frlgings |
| 21:53.40 | KeyserSoze | http://stewped.com/air/view.php?date=2003-07-10 |
| 21:53.47 | slimspace | ah...meh, I'm not obsessed, or even really care. I was just amused that I had a 24-day uptime on a laptop that travels |
| 21:54.00 | darth_darth | KeyserSoze: hehe |
| 21:55.17 | darth_darth | KeyserSoze: you should check out the Illustrated Thesaurus |
| 21:56.18 | darth_darth | it is probably the funniest of the three |
| 21:56.27 | darth_darth | though I'm going to start hounding Ajay about AiRoad |
| 21:56.34 | darth_darth | when he gets back from his honeymoon, that is |
| 21:58.04 | darth_darth | slimspace: PANTS! |
| 21:58.12 | purple_cow | NO PANTS! |
| 21:58.15 | KeyserSoze | this wouldn't work: http://stewped.com/air/view.php?date=2004-07-21 |
| 21:58.23 | KeyserSoze | it'd only make them scream louder, i'm pretty sure |
| 21:58.28 | darth_darth | purple_cow: remember what happened the last time I was enticed to remove my pants... |
| 21:58.44 | darth_darth | KeyserSoze: that's what happened |
| 21:58.55 | darth_darth | Jon's being sarcastic in the last panel |
| 21:58.57 | purple_cow | darth_darth: yes, i remember |
| 21:59.28 | purple_cow | hmm |
| 22:00.02 | darth_darth | you could dance on top the roof of your building in a grass skirt |
| 22:00.30 | purple_cow | i could... |
| 22:00.50 | darth_darth | *sniff* |
| 22:01.10 | darth_darth | his online shenanigans keep me so entertained |
| 22:01.30 | slimspace | bored |
| 22:01.35 | darth_darth | yeah |
| 22:02.04 | darth_darth | hmm -- I have monkey bubble installed on this laptop |
| 22:02.06 | slimspace | senior project. It's like working, only with grades |
| 22:02.20 | purple_cow | hmm, me too |
| 22:02.29 | purple_cow | that has a network mode now, right? |
| 22:02.33 | darth_darth | indeed |
| 22:02.49 | purple_cow | slimspace: quick! emerge! |
| 22:02.56 | darth_darth | build monkey bubble faster! |
| 22:03.20 | file[laptop] | my brain is slowly exploding |
| 22:03.33 | darth_darth | too many things in his dock! |
| 22:03.44 | purple_cow | very |
| 22:03.58 | slimspace | but it zooms, so it's ok |
| 22:03.58 | darth_darth | it's a good thing he has *5* internet browsers |
| 22:04.09 | purple_cow | whoa, i didn't even notice that |
| 22:04.21 | slimspace | wow |
| 22:04.34 | darth_darth | it's also a good thing that they're not all in the same place |
| 22:04.35 | purple_cow | it's like he dragged the entire contents of the applications folder there |
| 22:04.42 | darth_darth | hah |
| 22:05.23 | darth_darth | I need to start bringing my nalgene to school |
| 22:05.56 | darth_darth | caffeine dehydrates you |
| 22:06.04 | purple_cow | as does sugar |
| 22:06.12 | file[laptop] | root beer doesn't contain caffeine, or does it in the US? |
| 22:06.19 | darth_darth | file[laptop]: some do |
| 22:06.20 | purple_cow | depends on the brand. most do |
| 22:06.26 | file[laptop] | scary |
| 22:06.27 | darth_darth | and it definitely contains sugar |
| 22:06.52 | ToyKeeper | gimme some sugar, bebbe |
| 22:07.00 | file[laptop] | pixie sticks! |
| 22:07.03 | file[laptop] | for all. |
| 22:07.07 | kergoth_ | ooh, http://ozlabs.org/~jk/projects/nfsim/howto/ |
| 22:07.08 | kergoth_ | neat |
| 22:07.27 | kergoth_ | simulation environment to run netfilter in a "kernel like" environment in userspace |
| 22:08.35 | purple_cow | slimspace: assign keys in the settings dialog |
| 22:08.47 | purple_cow | aw, only 2 players? :P |
| 22:08.48 | slimspace | what, no defaults? |
| 22:08.53 | darth_darth | are either of you paying attention to this guy? |
| 22:08.53 | purple_cow | slimspace: iirc no :P |
| 22:09.03 | purple_cow | darth_darth: a little ;) |
| 22:09.31 | purple_cow | ah, 3 players |
| 22:09.31 | slimspace | grr...it won't let me use left... |
| 22:09.54 | purple_cow | 128.138.237.182 |
| 22:13.11 | purple_cow | darth_darth: we need to restart to get slimspace back in |
| 22:13.19 | darth_darth | ok |
| 22:14.18 | purple_cow | huh, it won't let me start the server |
| 22:14.22 | darth_darth | =( |
| 22:14.29 | purple_cow | ah, there it goes |
| 22:15.46 | darth_darth | d'oh |
| 22:15.58 | slimspace | it keeps freezing |
| 22:16.02 | ChipX86 | uh oh, Regis is in a bad mood |
| 22:17.00 | slimspace | darth_darth, purple_cow: Frozen bubble supports network, and I know that works on my system |
| 22:17.20 | darth_darth | whoa |
| 22:17.23 | darth_darth | monkeybubble froze |
| 22:17.31 | purple_cow | yay quality |
| 22:18.21 | ToyKeeper | darth_darth binks? |
| 22:18.49 | darth_darth | holy cow |
| 22:18.58 | darth_darth | lots of deps for frozen bubble |
| 22:19.17 | purple_cow | wow, yeah |
| 22:19.21 | darth_darth | silly perl modules |
| 22:19.27 | ToyKeeper | Isn't it a perl/sdl program? |
| 22:19.32 | purple_cow | ToyKeeper: yeah |
| 22:19.36 | purple_cow | lots of perl stuff |
| 22:21.56 | darth_darth | wow -- slimspace is making a call on his cell in the middle of class |
| 22:22.09 | darth_darth | hehe |
| 22:22.09 | purple_cow | prolly just voice mail, but still |
| 22:22.21 | darth_darth | it was him sitting there with the phone at his ear that tickled me |
| 22:22.21 | slimspace | yeah, just voice mail. It was Tess, and she knew I was in class |
| 22:22.31 | purple_cow | granted, i've seen people actually *answer* their phones in humanities classes |
| 22:22.43 | darth_darth | those people need to be castrated |
| 22:22.45 | ToyKeeper | Heh. I'd probably check my mail during class, but only with an unobtrusive headset. :) |
| 22:23.00 | purple_cow | and *lots* of people texting |
| 22:23.08 | darth_darth | it's not as though Bruce is really going over anything terribly important |
| 22:23.36 | darth_darth | yeah |
| 22:23.39 | purple_cow | #12!! |
| 22:23.45 | darth_darth | we'll need one more person, I'll bet |
| 22:23.54 | ChipX86 | did anybody get their beta e-mails? |
| 22:24.03 | purple_cow | well, 4-5 means that a team of 3 is prolly 1 person too small ;) |
| 22:24.19 | darth_darth | sometimes teachers will let that kind of thing slide |
| 22:24.28 | purple_cow | eh |
| 22:24.30 | darth_darth | but I get the feeling that's not the case here |
| 22:24.36 | purple_cow | it'd be handy to have 1 or 2 more |
| 22:24.53 | purple_cow | if only for writing documentation ;) |
| 22:24.59 | slimspace | :) |
| 22:25.00 | darth_darth | heh |
| 22:25.07 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10bzflag/ (ChangeLog src/bzflag/Downloads.cxx): more download info patch from Garrett Padera |
| 22:25.11 | darth_darth | as long as it's not Zach |
| 22:25.17 | purple_cow | or dipal? :P |
| 22:25.24 | slimspace | hehe |
| 22:25.32 | darth_darth | Zach sends me into homicidal rages |
| 22:25.34 | slimspace | can Dipal actually do anything? |
| 22:25.41 | darth_darth | she can ask questions |
| 22:26.19 | darth_darth | Zach's the guy I worked with during components |
| 22:26.21 | purple_cow | yay! darth_darth & i have the same work schedule! :) |
| 22:26.23 | purple_cow | "whenever" |
| 22:26.26 | darth_darth | hehe |
| 22:27.01 | slimspace | heh, three jobs all with completely flexible hours |
| 22:27.28 | kergoth_ | i should probably stop leaving work early |
| 22:27.29 | kergoth_ | hmm |
| 22:28.37 | ChipX86 | "Give me back my nanopants!" -- VMware quips page |
| 22:28.40 | purple_cow | the knave! |
| 22:28.44 | darth_darth | but I like slimspace's background. it's all bubbly and blue |
| 22:28.46 | slimspace | work habbits? I have those? |
| 22:28.51 | kergoth_ | ooh, nanopants |
| 22:28.59 | ChipX86 | hurray for them appearing on the top of every bugzilla page |
| 22:29.33 | darth_darth | oooh... he's talking about people from "sensitive countries" |
| 22:29.56 | purple_cow | god |
| 22:30.05 | purple_cow | i am *so* hoping that i don't crack up in the middle of this |
| 22:30.51 | purple_cow | it's a good knock knock joke |
| 22:31.01 | darth_darth | I'm fond of it ^^ |
| 22:31.38 | purple_cow | 12 12 12 12 12 |
| 22:32.05 | slimspace | let's all submit the same choices |
| 22:32.10 | darth_darth | that's what I was thinking |
| 22:32.30 | darth_darth | it's like some kind of Fox special! |
| 22:32.35 | darth_darth | we all have to be married by Friday! |
| 22:32.39 | darth_darth | ready. set. go! |
| 22:32.52 | slimspace | lol, almost |
| 22:33.09 | darth_darth | and then after the marriage you have to eat a barrel of worms or forfeit the $1000 prize |
| 22:34.19 | kergoth_ | lol |
| 22:34.26 | purple_cow | hmm |
| 22:34.36 | purple_cow | CU's webcal is surprisingly good |
| 22:34.42 | darth_darth | lies! |
| 22:35.10 | darth_darth | this marriage metaphor is going a little far... |
| 22:35.18 | kergoth_ | hmm.. 25 minutes to 6... fuck it, i'm leaving. i'll get the vpn client and get some extra hours in at home tomorrow night |
| 22:35.26 | slimspace | by his description, I'm cheating on Tess by taking this class |
| 22:35.35 | darth_darth | it's like some kind of mormon courtship, 4-5 guys dating a company and getting married by the end of the week |
| 22:36.51 | numist | sounds like my first C++ class... "Do you let your friends touch your private members?" (giggles in room) "Right, so your parents and friends can only access protected members, but not the private ones" (more giggles) |
| 22:37.12 | numist | stupid school... half the people dropped that class 4th week |
| 22:38.33 | KeyserLaptop | what's funny in C++, is that your private parts are just hanging out in the header file, where anyone can see them |
| 22:38.53 | KeyserLaptop | but luckily they can only look, they can't actually access your private parts |
| 22:39.55 | KeyserLaptop | hehe: "More Students Prefer Interdisciplinary to CS" |
| 22:40.29 | KeyserLaptop | combine CS with business, so you can know the buzzwords used in CS, but not actually have to know how to do... anything |
| 22:41.21 | ChipX86 | so many cool thigns are happening |
| 22:49.26 | slimspace | frozen bubble! |
| 22:50.24 | purple_cow | slimspace: IP? |
| 22:50.31 | ChipX86 | I wanna play@ |
| 22:50.32 | ChipX86 | ! |
| 22:50.50 | slimspace | 128.138.237.217 |
| 22:51.14 | slimspace | darth_darth: run frozen-bubble-client |
| 22:52.06 | darth_darth | it hates me |
| 22:52.10 | purple_cow | this doesn't seem significantly better :P |
| 22:53.17 | slimspace | it seems to hate me too |
| 22:53.20 | darth_darth | hehe |
| 22:54.07 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10bzflag/plugins/scorereset/ (5 files): byebye score reset, it was nice knowing you. Maybe we will see you later when you work again |
| 22:56.50 | slimspace | hrm...it was working, now it's not. |
| 23:03.10 | slimspace | mer...seems that's not stable either |
| 23:05.45 | slimspace | shall we try mb again? |
| 23:06.16 | purple_cow | 128.138.237.182 |
| 23:08.08 | purple_cow | stop being slightly more useful than us! |
| 23:09.52 | ChipX86 | hurray, I'm helping! |
| 23:10.13 | file | ooh I found a place to get RAM for my Dell for cheap finally |
| 23:10.24 | purple_cow | stupid design flip-floppers! |
| 23:10.49 | ChipX86 | pfft, stupid vmware, not letting me create a 1TB disk |
| 23:10.59 | ChipX86 | my MS-DOS VM *must* have a 1TB disk |
| 23:11.05 | ChipX86 | it looks good in the screenshot! |
| 23:11.09 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10bzflag/ (include/bzfsAPI.h plugins/doc/functions.html): remove exposure of API for seting player scores because it's buggy as HELL |
| 23:11.10 | file | that's silly |
| 23:11.18 | file | could it even access that much? |
| 23:11.18 | ChipX86 | fine |
| 23:11.51 | ChipX86 | and dual-processor |
| 23:12.46 | numist | smp in vmware?! |
| 23:12.46 | ChipX86 | er wait |
| 23:12.46 | ChipX86 | did I say that? |
| 23:12.48 | ChipX86 | I meant dual-drive |
| 23:12.49 | ChipX86 | two drives |
| 23:12.49 | ChipX86 | yes |
| 23:12.49 | numist | no, you didnt |
| 23:12.52 | numist | yes |
| 23:12.59 | ChipX86 | speaking of stuff I never said.. |
| 23:13.03 | numist | :) |
| 23:13.05 | ChipX86 | you guys should get your beta e-mails tonight or tomorrow |
| 23:13.09 | numist | yay! |
| 23:13.24 | numist | does the beta include dual-drive support? :P |
| 23:13.39 | ChipX86 | support what now? |
| 23:13.49 | darth_darth | oof |
| 23:13.50 | numist | oh nothing |
| 23:13.51 | darth_darth | I'm getting owned |
| 23:15.19 | ChipX86 | ba |
| 23:15.20 | ChipX86 | bah |
| 23:15.27 | ChipX86 | I should have made my MS-DOS VM use 512MB of RAM |
| 23:15.47 | file | ChipX86: what do you have for a test machine? |
| 23:15.49 | darth_darth | <--- owned |
| 23:15.50 | purple_cow | err, how'd i lose that one... |
| 23:15.54 | slimspace | froze again |
| 23:16.30 | ChipX86 | file: I'm just setting things on devices, not powering it on or running it |
| 23:16.39 | purple_cow | server isn't up. i need to let the socket timeout |
| 23:16.43 | file | ChipX86: I know, I was just curious what you have for a workstation |
| 23:17.23 | purple_cow | there we go |
| 23:18.28 | ChipX86 | file: two Dell Precision 360s |
| 23:18.54 | numist | slimspace: set your system clock to 30s in the future? |
| 23:19.02 | darth_darth | how'd I lose? |
| 23:19.04 | file | nifty |
| 23:19.20 | purple_cow | hmm, far out and further out! |
| 23:22.36 | slimspace | hmm...was doing well... |
| 23:23.08 | ChipX86 | bugzilla told me "Gungla" |
| 23:25.02 | numist | Gungla? |
| 23:25.53 | ChipX86 | yep |
| 23:26.51 | darth_darth | phew |
| 23:27.08 | ChipX86 | grr |
| 23:27.23 | ChipX86 | I hereby decree that this week is crap |
| 23:27.39 | ChipX86 | can't do a 3 lien change without people yelling about it |
| 23:27.40 | ChipX86 | everyone's all tense |
| 23:31.32 | file | oh great, I have a meeting Thursday at 6PM |
| 23:33.13 | purple_cow | "i'll send that URI out today" |
| 23:33.13 | purple_cow | blah! |
| 23:33.19 | purple_cow | if it has http, it's a URL dammit! |
| 23:35.57 | ChipX86 | hahah |
| 23:36.07 | ChipX86 | I love our generic bug assignees |
| 23:36.14 | ChipX86 | I didn't realize we had VMHS Nurses |
| 23:38.44 | ChipX86 | VD Yoda, USB-Sensei, Unknown Soldier, UI Wizard.. |
| 23:39.11 | ChipX86 | iSCSI Idiots |
| 23:39.24 | ChipX86 | vmkfsfools |
| 23:39.39 | file | ChipX86: O.O |
| 23:55.36 | *** join/#tacobeam kergoth (n=kergoth@c-24-118-219-25.hsd1.mn.comcast.net) |
| 23:55.52 | kergoth | whee, got a new microphone, fancy logitech usb one with noise canceling. still only $20 though |
| 23:56.00 | kergoth | better than the $8 one i had before :P |
| 23:56.22 | file | kergoth: work better? |
| 23:56.26 | file | your old one was echoey :P |
| 23:56.37 | kergoth | it was funny.. veight is in the same room as i am |
| 23:56.50 | kergoth | this new mic is so sensitive that it picked up his speakers outputting my voice and caused feedback |
| 23:56.54 | file | haha |