| 00:00.14 | scanlime | purple_cow: for the TV stand I'm waiting until I have a TV :) |
| 00:00.18 | scanlime | my 13" doesn't count |
| 00:00.18 | purple_cow | scanlime: you could build it all out of fedex boxes like that guy who got farked |
| 00:00.24 | scanlime | hehe |
| 00:00.36 | scanlime | I've had my fill of cardboard box furniture already |
| 00:00.38 | purple_cow | heh. i don't have a TV yet, but it'll only be a week or two before I pick one up |
| 00:00.48 | purple_cow | my mom seems to be in a buying-me-stuff mood |
| 00:00.56 | scanlime | ug, I hate that |
| 00:01.22 | ChipX86 | let me know if yo ufind anything good. I'm still not sure what kind of TV I want |
| 00:01.33 | purple_cow | well, seeing as it's coinciding with me moving, and she's pretty good at waiting for my input about things, it's a good thing :) |
| 00:01.41 | purple_cow | scanlime: cool |
| 00:01.57 | scanlime | then something small and quiet as a HTPC.. maybe a mac mini |
| 00:02.03 | scanlime | since I doubt my ibook has the horsepower required |
| 00:02.56 | purple_cow | scanlime: noo! you'll need to get something with some reasonable graphics power for our new freevo UI ;-) |
| 00:03.01 | scanlime | ah, yes :) |
| 00:03.14 | scanlime | maybe wasabi will become wasabi again once I get a faster desktop |
| 00:03.22 | scanlime | not sure when that will happen though, since I'm pretty happy with it as it is |
| 00:03.28 | purple_cow | yay colors! http://zero.navi.cx/gallery/tetons-2005/IMG_0099 |
| 00:05.06 | purple_cow | and on that note, i've finished uploading, so time to go |
| 00:05.31 | numist | later purple_cow |
| 00:08.51 | scanlime | " * Side effects |
| 00:08.53 | scanlime | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:08.54 | scanlime | helpful |
| 00:11.44 | numist | nice |
| 00:11.46 | numist | who's code? |
| 00:11.55 | scanlime | not sure |
| 00:12.18 | numist | hehe |
| 00:12.21 | kergoth | finding a windows SIP phone that isnt locked into a service of some sort is next to impossible |
| 00:12.23 | numist | hang them by their keyboard |
| 00:12.49 | file[laptop] | kergoth: *cough* I may have one for you |
| 00:13.10 | file[laptop] | kergoth: http://neutrino.file-radio.com/eyeBeam.zip |
| 00:13.13 | ToyKeeper | purple_cow: Are those some grand tetons in your pocket, or ... ? |
| 00:13.17 | file[laptop] | use any serial, it's been "modified" |
| 00:13.23 | kergoth | i found one called express phone that seems to not be locked in, and their web page even has links to a number of free sip services, like iptel, sipphone, free world dialup, etc |
| 00:13.23 | ChipX86 | that was fun |
| 00:13.27 | kergoth | mmmk |
| 00:13.31 | ChipX86 | but the duck didn't go down the waterfall as fast as we had hoped |
| 00:13.35 | file[laptop] | it does video, text, and audio |
| 00:13.35 | ChipX86 | we had to.. encourage it |
| 00:13.39 | file[laptop] | so it's great for testing |
| 00:13.52 | kergoth | whats it use for video? h.323 or whatever? |
| 00:14.02 | file[laptop] | it's a SIP phone |
| 00:14.06 | file[laptop] | SIP can do video too ya know |
| 00:14.15 | file[laptop] | it's just another UDP stream |
| 00:14.37 | kergoth | right, makes sense. sip is just signaling / session management |
| 00:14.44 | file[laptop] | exactly |
| 00:15.24 | kergoth | nifty |
| 00:15.51 | file[laptop] | has STUN support too, so you can test how your stuff handles a device that is supposed to handle NAT itself ;) |
| 00:16.04 | kergoth | yeah, thisll be useful for testing |
| 00:16.06 | kergoth | thanks :) |
| 00:16.09 | file[laptop] | you're welcome |
| 00:16.19 | file[laptop] | took me many a day to get a copy of that, I refuse to pay for it |
| 00:16.44 | file[laptop] | $60 USD, bleh |
| 00:18.26 | kergoth | jeeze. with all the great linux softphones, you'd think there'd be _one_ open source one for windows :) |
| 00:18.45 | file[laptop] | nope |
| 00:18.59 | file[laptop] | although the SIP stack in Eyebeam is open source ;) |
| 00:19.09 | kergoth | hah |
| 00:19.10 | kergoth | cool |
| 00:19.26 | ChipX86 | :) |
| 00:19.37 | ChipX86 | it happened fast |
| 00:19.47 | kergoth | file[laptop]: hmm... okay, lets say i want to set up a voice mail service to point this too, or an app on a linux box to have conferences people can join. is there a good linux app for that? |
| 00:19.51 | kergoth | duck? |
| 00:19.53 | kergoth | s/too/to/ |
| 00:19.54 | ChipX86 | scanlime: we want to get some rubber ducks |
| 00:19.58 | file[laptop] | kergoth: an app? not really |
| 00:19.59 | ChipX86 | kergoth: we pushed a duck down the waterfall |
| 00:20.00 | scanlime | ChipX86: heck yes! |
| 00:20.04 | file[laptop] | kergoth: you could use my Asterisk box if you wanted |
| 00:20.09 | file[laptop] | or set up your own |
| 00:20.25 | kergoth | ah, asterisk |
| 00:20.33 | file[laptop] | it's quick, dirty, it'll get the job done for you |
| 00:20.34 | kergoth | didnt think about using asterisk when i dont have any physical lines |
| 00:20.40 | kergoth | but that makes sense, its a pbx |
| 00:21.02 | file[laptop] | quite |
| 00:21.24 | ChipX86 | tinderbox is massively burning |
| 00:22.25 | file[laptop] | Google e-mailed me, how nice |
| 00:22.49 | file[laptop] | of course I don't believe the e-mail |
| 00:22.56 | file[laptop] | I somehow doubt I'll ever see a lick of money |
| 00:23.07 | scanlime | ChipX86: ow |
| 00:23.25 | file[laptop] | kergoth: you're gonna get hooked to Asterisk now |
| 00:24.00 | scanlime | is anyone else massively annoyed with the way tinderbox does hover-popups? |
| 00:24.05 | ChipX86 | yes. |
| 00:24.09 | scanlime | when the text doesn't fit in the window, you can't go to resize it because it disappears |
| 00:24.13 | ChipX86 | yep |
| 00:24.23 | scanlime | I guess arrow keys still work |
| 00:24.29 | scanlime | but.. yuck |
| 00:25.23 | darth_mall | ooh... I should go get the Bjork tribute album |
| 00:26.03 | ChipX86 | hmm |
| 00:26.09 | ChipX86 | I should put in my new card and take the old one home |
| 00:26.16 | ChipX86 | nah, I'll just do it tomorrow |
| 00:38.36 | kergoth | file[laptop]: probably, yeah :) |
| 00:41.42 | file[laptop] | you'll grow attached to it... then you'll crave a real VoIP phone |
| 00:54.55 | *** join/#tacobeam zox (n=zox@ip70-176-64-134.ph.ph.cox.net) |
| 01:02.12 | gonkulator | zox? |
| 01:02.28 | file[laptop] | brc |
| 01:02.35 | gonkulator | oh |
| 01:05.53 | scanlime | hm |
| 01:05.57 | scanlime | CE-ATA looks interesting |
| 01:11.48 | scanlime | home time, with a cheap haircut on the way |
| 01:12.15 | ChipX86 | also heading home |
| 01:12.36 | gonkulator | mmm |
| 01:12.39 | gonkulator | cheap haircut |
| 01:16.11 | kergoth | file[laptop]: damn, asterisk is powerful :) |
| 01:16.19 | kergoth | file[laptop]: still trying to wrap my head around its configuration |
| 01:16.24 | file[laptop] | kergoth: yup |
| 01:16.28 | kergoth | at least i can login it to it via SIP now |
| 01:16.44 | kergoth | hmm |
| 01:16.55 | kergoth | my number is 'kergoth'. yay. |
| 01:17.24 | file[laptop] | add an entry to your extensions.conf when you figure out how to call IAX2/guest@neutrino.file-radio.com/145 |
| 01:17.28 | file[laptop] | that's my desk phone |
| 01:17.43 | pagefault | I shall call you in the middle of the night |
| 01:17.54 | file[laptop] | then I'll hunt you down! |
| 01:17.56 | file[laptop] | I know where you live! |
| 01:18.15 | pagefault | is that your dell server? |
| 01:18.35 | file[laptop] | nah that is a box in New York |
| 01:19.02 | *** join/#tacobeam JeffM2501 (n=jeffm@pdpc/supporter/sustaining/JeffM2501) |
| 01:20.03 | kergoth | file[laptop]: huh, so i could create an extension on my asterisk server thatd transfer me to you? |
| 01:20.09 | file[laptop] | it would call me on my server, yes |
| 01:20.21 | kergoth | haha, i called the 500 demo extension in the ubuntu asterisk config, it called digium |
| 01:20.24 | kergoth | thats just nifty. |
| 01:20.26 | file[laptop] | yup |
| 01:20.45 | file[laptop] | if I gave you an account you could place calls and stuff through my system |
| 01:21.57 | *** join/#tacobeam lalo (n=lalo@221.122.43.98) |
| 01:23.28 | pagefault | free phone calls! |
| 01:24.19 | file[laptop] | yesssssss |
| 01:24.40 | file[laptop] | I'm waiting for kergoth to call LOL |
| 01:25.14 | pagefault | heye |
| 01:25.15 | pagefault | hehe |
| 01:25.36 | pagefault | so do you guys have a computer hooked up to a real phone line in almost every area code? |
| 01:25.59 | pagefault | I don't understand how a call on the internet makes it's way onto the real phone network |
| 01:25.59 | file[laptop] | we don't do nationwide phone numbers yet, it's something I'm working on |
| 01:26.15 | file[laptop] | terminating equipment that translates between regular phone and VoIP |
| 01:26.32 | pagefault | ah so you have them in varous places like NY and LA |
| 01:26.35 | pagefault | for those numbers |
| 01:26.55 | file[laptop] | providers do yes, or they get in a place that allows them to provision from a multitude of places |
| 01:27.02 | pagefault | ahh |
| 01:27.07 | pagefault | do you usually share these with other companies |
| 01:27.22 | file[laptop] | that's how VoIP companies really get this stuff, it's too expensive to deploy |
| 01:27.30 | file[laptop] | so another company (like Level3) deploys it, sells it, and you buy it |
| 01:27.32 | pagefault | yeah |
| 01:27.35 | file[laptop] | but other stuff is cheaper |
| 01:27.39 | pagefault | phone lines cost a ton |
| 01:27.44 | file[laptop] | like inbound toll-free service is cheaper to do, and you can do it on your own |
| 01:27.47 | file[laptop] | well you don't buy lines |
| 01:28.00 | file[laptop] | we have a DS3 (600+ line channels) in Virginia that we use for toll-free numbers and calling |
| 01:28.06 | pagefault | oh cool |
| 01:28.09 | file[laptop] | it's through a Qwest reseller, Airespring |
| 01:30.18 | file[laptop] | kergoth called! |
| 01:30.35 | kergoth | :D |
| 01:30.37 | pagefault | hmm |
| 01:30.46 | pagefault | was he scary? |
| 01:30.50 | file[laptop] | very |
| 01:30.56 | file[laptop] | his voice was NOTHING like I had imagined him sounding |
| 01:30.59 | kergoth | haha |
| 01:31.21 | file[laptop] | kergoth: you need a cheap VoIP adapter or phone now, you should make work get you one |
| 01:31.24 | file[laptop] | for testing real world devices. |
| 01:32.51 | file[laptop] | kergoth: try extension 4900 |
| 01:33.43 | pagefault | it's a trick! |
| 01:33.53 | file[laptop] | yeah! |
| 01:33.54 | pagefault | brb |
| 01:35.47 | file[laptop] | pagefault: back to the DS3 thing... we demux our DS3 into 7 T1s for redundancy, they then go to 7 computers |
| 01:35.58 | file[laptop] | well it's actually 28 T1s, 4 for each box |
| 01:38.04 | gonkulator | file[laptop]: kergoth is even more mundaine in person |
| 01:38.12 | gonkulator | he weilds a powerful cluebat on IRC |
| 01:38.12 | file[laptop] | ooh |
| 01:38.18 | gonkulator | but IRL, he is just a nice guy |
| 01:38.22 | file[laptop] | that's scary |
| 01:38.31 | file[laptop] | this niceness, it's a difficult concept to grasp |
| 01:39.32 | pagefault | file[laptop], cool |
| 01:40.26 | file[laptop] | I told him not to look at the source code, he probably is |
| 01:41.53 | kergoth | yeah, i'm pretty harmless most of hte time :) |
| 01:41.53 | file[laptop] | kergoth: that was done using numerical representations of each tone |
| 01:42.03 | kergoth | file[laptop]: what song was that? |
| 01:42.06 | file[laptop] | Tetris :) |
| 01:42.13 | kergoth | aha, i knew it sounded familiar |
| 01:42.27 | file[laptop] | 666 plays So Long And Thanks For All The Fish |
| 01:42.55 | file[laptop] | 'datz pretty much all the cool stuff on my system |
| 01:43.06 | kergoth | i should be able to call a person from a sip phone directly, right? set up asterisk to look up their SRV record to contact their proxy and get their ip when i try to call them directly? |
| 01:43.16 | file[laptop] | yeah |
| 01:43.19 | kergoth | right now i'm just associating extensions to those urls |
| 01:43.21 | kergoth | cool |
| 01:43.31 | file[laptop] | you can do enum lookups too |
| 01:43.50 | file[laptop] | given an hour, you could have your Asterisk calling a multitude of places |
| 01:44.39 | kergoth | hm, i have an account on FWD and stuff, i suppose i could get asterisk to use places like that for lookups, too |
| 01:44.45 | file[laptop] | yup |
| 01:44.46 | kergoth | this is awfully nifty |
| 01:44.48 | kergoth | hehe |
| 01:44.56 | file[laptop] | I'll give you something more nifty |
| 01:45.04 | darth_mall | time to see if my laptop is happy again |
| 01:45.04 | file[laptop] | just wait a sec ;) |
| 01:46.05 | file[laptop] | exten => _1NXXNXXXXXX,1,Dial(IAX2/kergoth:atlantis@neutrino.file-radio.com/${EXTEN}) |
| 01:46.10 | file[laptop] | ;) |
| 01:46.26 | file[laptop] | take a guess at what that does |
| 01:47.02 | kergoth | substitutes the extension i'm dialing on my box into the call to yours? so any extension i dial would call out that extension your box with that account? |
| 01:47.13 | file[laptop] | kinda |
| 01:47.17 | darth_mall | yay |
| 01:47.21 | darth_mall | I appear to have fixed Yomiko |
| 01:47.23 | file[laptop] | it's the standard number pattern for PSTN calls |
| 01:47.33 | kergoth | aha |
| 01:47.36 | file[laptop] | _ says this is a pattern match |
| 01:47.38 | file[laptop] | N means 2-9 |
| 01:47.41 | file[laptop] | X is 0-9 |
| 01:47.58 | file[laptop] | so if you dialed a regular PSTN number, it would send it out through my box... and voila |
| 01:48.36 | kergoth | eh, stupid question, how do i get the changes to the dialplans to take effect immediately? kill -HUP? the commandline console? |
| 01:48.39 | kergoth | hehe |
| 01:48.44 | file[laptop] | extensions reload on the CLI |
| 01:48.49 | kergoth | thanks |
| 01:49.01 | file[laptop] | sip reload to reload sip.conf |
| 01:49.55 | Sophie[book] | hey hey hey hey hey hey hey |
| 01:50.01 | file[laptop] | it's Sophie! hi. |
| 01:50.19 | Sophie197 | hallo file! |
| 01:50.21 | kergoth | hey Sophie197 |
| 01:50.36 | Sophie197 | hey there kergoth :) |
| 01:50.56 | file[laptop] | kergoth: you now have the capacity to mass flood Sophie's phone! |
| 01:51.02 | kergoth | i'm in a maze of twisty asterisk configuration files, all alike! |
| 01:51.05 | kergoth | at least there's no grue |
| 01:51.19 | file[laptop] | wait till you realize you can make calls happen simply by copying a file |
| 01:51.21 | Sophie197 | you can listen to feeder on my phone now. |
| 01:51.35 | gonkulator | oooh |
| 01:51.36 | gonkulator | ist a Sophie197 |
| 01:51.47 | Sophie197 | yay, a gonkulator. |
| 01:58.35 | *** join/#tacobeam orchid_ (n=bzgirl@unaffiliated/orchid) |
| 01:59.03 | kergoth | damnit meetme, it is _too_ a valid conference number |
| 01:59.20 | file[laptop] | kergoth: you need a zaptel timing device |
| 01:59.30 | kergoth | ah. hehe. |
| 01:59.46 | file[laptop] | provides a constant 1ms timing source and does hardware mixing of audio |
| 02:00.01 | file[laptop] | so, like, you can get a kernel module that uses the USB UHCI controller, or the RTC clock |
| 02:00.06 | file[laptop] | results may vary - usually works fine and dandy |
| 02:00.18 | file[laptop] | called ztdummy when you download zaptel, gotta modify the Makefile to compile it |
| 02:01.39 | file[laptop] | can you tell I've said that before? |
| 02:03.47 | ChipX86 | bah |
| 02:04.08 | ChipX86 | stupid DHL tried to drop off the laptop but wasn't here, so instead of bringing it to the main office, they left a note saying they'll try tomorrow |
| 02:04.14 | ChipX86 | so now I have to just wait here for it |
| 02:04.44 | file[laptop] | :( |
| 02:06.28 | zox | WHO RANG ME |
| 02:06.57 | ChipX86 | brc_: bring me the broomstick of the Witch of the West! |
| 02:07.06 | brc_ | NEVER! |
| 02:07.46 | brc_ | I shall eat lizzard lips before I bring you the broomstick of the Witch of the West! |
| 02:07.54 | ChipX86 | k |
| 02:35.46 | kergoth | yay, i have a conference |
| 02:36.13 | kergoth | all good |
| 02:36.14 | file[laptop] | :) |
| 02:36.51 | kergoth | hmm, extensions dont have to be numbers, right? thats just convention? |
| 02:37.45 | file[laptop] | correct |
| 02:38.41 | ChipX86 | awww, my poor sister |
| 02:39.40 | ChipX86 | third day of kindergarten. The first day, she wanted to have a "hot lunch" but I guess left her money behind or something |
| 02:39.57 | KeyserLaptop | you have a sister who's like 20 years younger than you? |
| 02:40.26 | ChipX86 | the second day she wanted a "hot lunch" (for those who don't know/remember, that's where they make it instead ofy ou bringing one) but she brought her lunch pale which had a snack in it, which was just one banana. She went to the cafeteria and they told her to sit down, so she never got her hot lunch. Just the banana |
| 02:40.27 | KeyserLaptop | that's kind of cool. i only had an older sister, who used to beat the crap out of me |
| 02:40.34 | ChipX86 | "It was a really good banana, though," she said |
| 02:40.44 | KeyserLaptop | doh :( |
| 02:40.47 | ChipX86 | KeyserLaptop: I'm 21 and she just turned 5 |
| 02:40.56 | scanlime | bananas are worth it |
| 02:40.59 | ChipX86 | :) |
| 02:41.04 | ChipX86 | she looks on the bright side of things |
| 02:41.21 | ChipX86 | nope |
| 02:41.22 | scanlime | she sounds so cute :) |
| 02:41.24 | ChipX86 | she is |
| 02:41.27 | KeyserLaptop | how long you been at vmware? |
| 02:41.36 | scanlime | hmm |
| 02:41.37 | ChipX86 | a year next Tuesday |
| 02:41.46 | KeyserLaptop | congrats |
| 02:41.53 | ChipX86 | thanks |
| 02:41.57 | ChipX86 | scanlime: nope, I will be in December |
| 02:41.59 | gonkulator | wow |
| 02:42.05 | gonkulator | emerge sync is sooo fast on this box |
| 02:42.20 | file[laptop] | ChipX86 is silly with his age |
| 02:42.22 | scanlime | ... |
| 02:42.29 | ChipX86 | 200MHz pentium with gentoo?! |
| 02:42.29 | scanlime | gonkulator: you're nuts |
| 02:42.31 | gonkulator | a 2.45 gHz AMD64 is quite s atep up |
| 02:42.47 | scanlime | woww |
| 02:42.58 | scanlime | sounds like a group of teenage girls making cat noises next door |
| 02:43.32 | ChipX86 | I had part of the window hidden when you typed that. I thought it was "sounds like a group of teenage girls making out next door" :( |
| 02:43.36 | scanlime | that's what it *sounds* like.. I have no idea what it actually is |
| 02:43.41 | scanlime | haha |
| 02:43.45 | scanlime | not quite |
| 02:43.48 | ChipX86 | I was going to head over |
| 02:44.09 | scanlime | I haven't seen any teenage girls around here.. just middle-aged family type folks and little kids |
| 02:44.14 | ChipX86 | yeah, same :/ |
| 02:44.41 | scanlime | saw some young goth-ish kids on my way back from getting my hair cut |
| 02:44.51 | scanlime | didn't think goths existed in sunnyvale |
| 02:44.55 | scanlime | though I guess that was still cupertino |
| 02:45.59 | scanlime | guh |
| 02:46.11 | scanlime | need to finish this disk array so I can drown out the noise with /navi/media/audio |
| 02:46.40 | scanlime | 1. monkey and/or cat noises 2. clapping 3. brief silence |
| 02:46.44 | scanlime | 4. repeat... |
| 02:47.17 | file[laptop] | O.o |
| 02:50.49 | darth_mall | yay Aliens |
| 02:51.15 | darth_mall | quality film this is |
| 02:59.36 | pagefault | yeah |
| 02:59.46 | pagefault | same guy wrote total recall |
| 02:59.50 | pagefault | the screenplay |
| 02:59.59 | kergoth | total recall is certainly an odd movie |
| 03:00.45 | pagefault | yay daily show |
| 03:01.07 | gonkulator | installing gentoo is so much easier on a fast machine |
| 03:01.13 | pagefault | haha |
| 03:01.17 | pagefault | no kidding |
| 03:01.21 | pagefault | I use the binary images on slow systems |
| 03:02.29 | pagefault | you like talking to yourself? |
| 03:02.30 | kergoth | whee! |
| 03:02.43 | pagefault | you shouldn't talk to yourself too often |
| 03:03.20 | pagefault | hmm |
| 03:03.27 | pagefault | how are you doing that |
| 03:03.30 | pagefault | I didn't know you could call yourself |
| 03:03.33 | pagefault | I had two machines |
| 03:03.35 | kergoth | hehe |
| 03:03.55 | kergoth | in this app it showed my incoming call from me on line 2, and my outgoing call to me on line 1 |
| 03:03.56 | darth_mall | uhoh... someone decided to remake Pitch Black and they named it The Cave |
| 03:04.01 | kergoth | .. |
| 03:04.15 | pagefault | hah |
| 03:04.15 | *** join/#tacobeam numist (n=scott@pdpc/supporter/sustaining/numist) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 03:04.23 | pagefault | that movie looked awful |
| 03:04.39 | darth_mall | it looks like Pitch Blakc but on Earth and without Vin Diesel |
| 03:05.09 | *** join/#tacobeam laodamas (n=cehoward@c-67-166-53-18.hsd1.co.comcast.net) |
| 03:05.31 | kergoth | hmmm |
| 03:05.32 | gonkulator | this is amazing |
| 03:05.45 | gonkulator | the slowest part is downloading packages at ~500 KB/s |
| 03:07.45 | pagefault | it should work in wine doesn't it? |
| 03:08.14 | darth_mall | laodamas: never! |
| 03:08.43 | gonkulator | wine! |
| 03:08.49 | gonkulator | thats what I get to emerge |
| 03:09.06 | ChipX86 | kergoth: are you able to connect? |
| 03:09.13 | laodamas | The live RSS-like bookmarks are so cool -- especially when tied to a radar tracking system |
| 03:11.58 | darth_mall | hehe |
| 03:12.16 | pagefault | what the hell |
| 03:12.27 | pagefault | they give you a free itunes song for trying on pants at the gap |
| 03:12.35 | ChipX86 | haha |
| 03:12.48 | nullpuppy | yay home |
| 03:12.56 | ChipX86 | can anyone connect to WoW? |
| 03:13.00 | nullpuppy | i should go clean up my brewing mess and make some dinner |
| 03:13.07 | pagefault | realms are having troubles I think |
| 03:13.36 | nullpuppy | and.. if anyone wants to gaze in wonder at my attempt.. http://gallery.nulldomain.com/v/Photography/Homebrew/Weissbier/Brew_Day |
| 03:15.42 | scanlime | darth_mall: apparently the radio signal in a pipe is really good? |
| 03:15.55 | numist | wow I just got a TON of stuff |
| 03:16.05 | darth_mall | scanlime: wha? if anything, I am more confused |
| 03:16.06 | ChipX86 | kergoth: poke |
| 03:16.11 | numist | 10 sparcstations, 2 sgi monitors, a really old vt100 serial terminal... |
| 03:16.11 | scanlime | darth_mall: 5x5 |
| 03:16.19 | darth_mall | uh huh |
| 03:16.22 | darth_mall | what about it |
| 03:16.23 | numist | dunno what out of the lot works though |
| 03:16.48 | scanlime | darth_mall: it's military walkie-talkie-speak.. I think it means maximum clarity, maximum signal strength |
| 03:16.56 | darth_mall | oh |
| 03:17.00 | darth_mall | where'd you learn that? |
| 03:17.04 | scanlime | I have no idea |
| 03:17.13 | darth_mall | hehe |
| 03:17.41 | scanlime | oh, oops |
| 03:17.46 | scanlime | I forgot to rate limit this backup of zero |
| 03:17.49 | scanlime | killed its I/O tokens |
| 03:17.50 | darth_mall | oh noes! |
| 03:18.08 | gonkulator | nullpuppy: add photo to cart? |
| 03:18.40 | darth_mall | ha! take that slimspace! |
| 03:18.54 | scanlime | gonkulator: it's gallery, it lets you print photos online by default |
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| 03:19.10 | gonkulator | oh, ok |
| 03:20.22 | ChipX86 | pagefault: I can't even authenticate to the login server |
| 03:20.23 | ChipX86 | pagefault: can you see if you can get in? |
| 03:20.48 | pagefault | nothing |
| 03:20.51 | pagefault | nothing working |
| 03:20.56 | ChipX86 | :( |
| 03:21.01 | pagefault | nothing about it on WoW.com |
| 03:21.05 | scanlime | what the hell |
| 03:21.17 | scanlime | the kids out there have been going "ooh ooh. aah aah!" for about 5 minutes straight |
| 03:21.27 | darth_mall | scanlime: you should go join them |
| 03:21.37 | darth_mall | and then, when they least expect it, kick 'em in the junk and run! |
| 03:21.46 | scanlime | great way to make friends =) |
| 03:21.49 | pagefault | ah |
| 03:21.52 | pagefault | it's a "third party error" |
| 03:21.59 | pagefault | whatever a "third party error" is |
| 03:22.00 | pagefault | I guess router |
| 03:22.02 | scanlime | load average: 19.08, 15.12, 9.01 |
| 03:22.05 | scanlime | grrrr |
| 03:22.13 | pagefault | poor flapjack? |
| 03:22.17 | scanlime | zero |
| 03:22.19 | numist | dang |
| 03:23.30 | darth_mall | jesus |
| 03:23.40 | darth_mall | The Cave isn't even out and they're talking about a sequel |
| 03:24.12 | darth_mall | that's like when that jackass on the radio was talking about how Weezer is about due for a "greatest hits" album |
| 03:24.23 | pagefault | haha |
| 03:26.20 | scanlime | yay |
| 03:26.28 | scanlime | music, power tools, and beer |
| 03:27.20 | darth_mall | tv sucks |
| 03:27.21 | nullpuppy | yay |
| 03:27.49 | scanlime | my apartment needs acoustics like my car |
| 03:28.02 | darth_mall | you could just live in your car |
| 03:28.06 | ChipX86 | this is horrible, just horrible |
| 03:28.19 | scanlime | my car doesn't have a shower, so that could be bad for anyone within 50 feet of me |
| 03:28.21 | kergoth | booooored |
| 03:28.29 | darth_mall | scanlime: YMCAs have showers |
| 03:28.37 | scanlime | hehe. WoW goes down, #tacobeam plunges into boredom |
| 03:28.43 | ChipX86 | :( |
| 03:28.45 | darth_mall | heh |
| 03:28.46 | kergoth | ? |
| 03:28.53 | ChipX86 | they must be running our NIS server |
| 03:28.54 | kergoth | oh, weird |
| 03:28.57 | kergoth | i'm not in wow |
| 03:29.03 | ChipX86 | kergoth: it's been down for a while |
| 03:29.04 | kergoth | but veight is in the deadmines on suramar right now |
| 03:29.10 | ChipX86 | hrm. |
| 03:29.11 | kergoth | guess its just the login piece that went poof |
| 03:29.11 | scanlime | #$@# |
| 03:29.14 | scanlime | and I can't get into zero |
| 03:29.19 | scanlime | damn this |
| 03:29.19 | ChipX86 | the internet is doomed! |
| 03:29.30 | pagefault | test realm is up |
| 03:29.31 | scanlime | I should probably reboot zero before the linode admins pull its I/O privileges :P |
| 03:29.32 | gonkulator | ChipX86: yep, ready to colapse under its own weight |
| 03:29.35 | pagefault | test realm is up |
| 03:29.39 | ChipX86 | ewww |
| 03:29.39 | pagefault | we are saved! |
| 03:29.43 | ChipX86 | look at the packet loss for Asia |
| 03:29.51 | ChipX86 | 53% |
| 03:29.52 | scanlime | disk I/O is apparently a privilege, not a right |
| 03:30.06 | numist | ouch |
| 03:30.31 | ChipX86 | a bunch of routers are down |
| 03:30.46 | pagefault | worm |
| 03:30.48 | ChipX86 | same with a bunch of US routers. Not sure how common that is |
| 03:31.03 | pagefault | where are you looking |
| 03:31.09 | ChipX86 | internettrafficreport.com |
| 03:33.00 | ChipX86 | yes!! |
| 03:33.06 | darth_mall | no?? |
| 03:33.08 | ChipX86 | they're implementing the one feature I truly wanted |
| 03:33.11 | ChipX86 | a dressing room! |
| 03:33.15 | numist | ? |
| 03:33.15 | pagefault | haha |
| 03:33.16 | pagefault | what? |
| 03:33.20 | numist | at internettrafficreport.com |
| 03:33.21 | numist | ? |
| 03:33.23 | ChipX86 | you can preview what you'll look like before you buy it |
| 03:33.24 | gonkulator | yay, its official |
| 03:33.25 | ChipX86 | no, on WoW |
| 03:33.30 | numist | oh... |
| 03:34.11 | ChipX86 | there goes more of the internet |
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| 03:35.03 | evan | naughty zero |
| 03:35.25 | file[laptop] | eep it was an Evan! |
| 03:35.26 | *** join/#tacobeam scanlime (n=micah@zero.navi.cx) |
| 03:35.48 | scanlime | that's better |
| 03:35.53 | gonkulator | wow, its been over 480 days since darth_mall was known as darth_balls |
| 03:36.00 | scanlime | note to self: always rate limit 3GB rsyncs from a linode |
| 03:36.03 | file[laptop] | gonkulator: useless knowledge alert |
| 03:36.20 | darth_mall | scanlime: blasphemy |
| 03:36.36 | scanlime | but yay, I seem to have partially straightened then rebent this plastic so it's less lopsided |
| 03:36.47 | scanlime | my electric bill is going to hate me |
| 03:36.49 | kergoth | hahaha |
| 03:37.17 | ChipX86 | kergoth: check out the dressing room addition :) |
| 03:37.18 | kergoth | "Tomorrow morning at 5:00AM PDT, we will be issuing rolling restarts to all realms. This restart is to implement a fix to address an issue with boats dropping players into the middle of hte sea." |
| 03:37.21 | ChipX86 | it's awesome |
| 03:37.23 | kergoth | thats awesome |
| 03:37.26 | ChipX86 | kergoth: yeah :) I love that |
| 03:37.33 | darth_mall | they still haven't fixed that? |
| 03:37.35 | ChipX86 | nope |
| 03:37.38 | darth_mall | geez |
| 03:37.45 | ChipX86 | it's funny/annoying as hell |
| 03:38.53 | scanlime | file: the audio quality on 877-781-1208 is really bad, but it's kinda neat nonetheless :) |
| 03:38.55 | ChipX86 | "With the possibility of previewing loot in a group or raid when an item drops, never-before-seen fashion arguments might start occurring (e.g.: "But those purple pants will match my dinner set!")." |
| 03:39.02 | scanlime | file: might also just be my cell phone sucking |
| 03:39.07 | nullpuppy | rofl |
| 03:39.26 | kergoth | hahaha |
| 03:39.29 | nullpuppy | ChipX86: did you see the typo on that page btw? :) |
| 03:39.30 | ChipX86 | http://worldofwarcraft.com/imageviewer.html?/info/underdev/images/patch1p7/,dressingroom/,7,8,http://worldofwarcraft.com/info/underdev/dressingroom.html |
| 03:39.33 | ChipX86 | nullpuppy: nope |
| 03:39.42 | file[laptop] | scanlime: potentially both |
| 03:39.44 | nullpuppy | first set of screenshots |
| 03:39.55 | kergoth | thats sweet |
| 03:39.55 | nullpuppy | 2nd screenshot (read the caption) |
| 03:39.57 | ChipX86 | figth |
| 03:39.58 | file[laptop] | but yay for cool test numbers! |
| 03:40.02 | nullpuppy | yeah |
| 03:40.13 | ChipX86 | I need to actually do one of those instances |
| 03:40.16 | ChipX86 | I haven't done them yet at all |
| 03:40.32 | pagefault | nice music |
| 03:40.38 | gonkulator | bah |
| 03:40.40 | kergoth | ChipX86: yeah, you should do sfk and bfd |
| 03:40.43 | pagefault | thanks for all fish |
| 03:40.46 | kergoth | sfk has good drops for you, as a mage |
| 03:40.55 | ChipX86 | yeah, I want to |
| 03:40.57 | ChipX86 | nullpuppy: up for it? |
| 03:41.03 | ChipX86 | if WoW ever comes back |
| 03:41.08 | nullpuppy | sure |
| 03:41.44 | gonkulator | file[laptop]: what is this? |
| 03:42.02 | file[laptop] | it's So Long And Thanks For All The Fish |
| 03:42.09 | gonkulator | ok |
| 03:42.37 | pagefault | horde |
| 03:43.44 | ChipX86 | I so want to participate in the fishing tournament |
| 03:43.51 | pagefault | me too |
| 03:43.57 | ChipX86 | and that makes me pathetic :( |
| 03:44.02 | nullpuppy | haha |
| 03:44.09 | pagefault | my fishing skill is so slow |
| 03:44.11 | pagefault | I need to raise it |
| 03:44.18 | ChipX86 | I'm working on Master Fishing now |
| 03:44.24 | darth_mall | hmm |
| 03:44.28 | darth_mall | suddenly very windy outside |
| 03:44.38 | nullpuppy | heck.. i need to work on a lot of stuff |
| 03:45.46 | gonkulator | rofl |
| 03:45.46 | gonkulator | http://it.slashdot.org/it/05/08/19/0137223.shtml?tid=111&tid=123&tid=17 |
| 03:46.05 | kergoth | fishing tournament? awesome |
| 03:46.22 | pagefault | haha |
| 03:46.24 | ChipX86 | I need a new fishing pole |
| 03:46.44 | kergoth | ChipX86: you need to get the one i'm using |
| 03:46.51 | kergoth | in the hinterlands |
| 03:46.57 | ChipX86 | I want it |
| 03:47.05 | ChipX86 | hinterlands? |
| 03:47.09 | kergoth | yep |
| 03:47.23 | file[laptop] | I should go to sleep |
| 03:47.28 | kergoth | it and feralas are the areas you'll be going to when you hit 40 or so |
| 03:47.36 | kergoth | after stranglethorn & desolace |
| 03:47.51 | ChipX86 | I love these whiners on the forum |
| 03:48.00 | nullpuppy | i logged on! |
| 03:48.04 | ChipX86 | someone's pissed that he can't log on and says that blizzard will be gone in a year because they can't keep a server up |
| 03:48.08 | nullpuppy | ph34r m3! |
| 03:48.08 | kergoth | nullpuppy: yay! |
| 03:48.10 | kergoth | ChipX86: haha |
| 03:48.18 | kergoth | my cooking is to like 70 now |
| 03:48.19 | gonkulator | file[laptop]: sleepy time |
| 03:48.20 | kergoth | :D |
| 03:48.22 | kergoth | fishing 140 or so |
| 03:48.23 | ChipX86 | if you don't hear from me, I'm in WoW |
| 03:48.23 | file[laptop] | and now everyone disappears into WoW... |
| 03:48.28 | file[laptop] | gonkulator: night |
| 03:48.40 | nullpuppy | hehe |
| 03:48.46 | kergoth | ChipX86, nullpuppy: that new battleground is gonna rock |
| 03:48.50 | kergoth | striped like wsg |
| 03:48.57 | gonkulator | file[laptop]: you're the one going to bed, good night :) |
| 03:49.07 | ChipX86 | yay! |
| 03:49.07 | file[laptop] | am I? wow |
| 03:49.10 | ChipX86 | kergoth: yep |
| 03:49.25 | pagefault | I am going to do the zelda quest |
| 03:49.31 | pagefault | I want the zelda sword from that quest |
| 03:49.34 | nullpuppy | zelda quest? |
| 03:49.40 | pagefault | yeah there is a hidden zelda quest |
| 03:49.45 | nullpuppy | neat |
| 03:49.51 | pagefault | you find link in un'goro crater and you have to find the triforce |
| 03:49.53 | pagefault | he gives you a sword |
| 03:49.58 | kergoth | hahaha |
| 03:49.59 | kergoth | sweet |
| 03:50.13 | pagefault | he's a gnome |
| 03:50.14 | pagefault | named linken |
| 03:50.15 | pagefault | hehe |
| 03:50.15 | nullpuppy | haha, nice |
| 03:50.35 | kergoth | i'm heading to un'goro soon :D |
| 03:50.40 | kergoth | have a quest there |
| 03:50.50 | kergoth | i should load up the un'goro gatherer addon |
| 03:50.53 | kergoth | for tracking those piles |
| 03:51.00 | pagefault | hehe linken is funny |
| 03:51.07 | pagefault | it's elite though |
| 03:51.12 | pagefault | you need to be like 60 to do it alone |
| 03:53.18 | gonkulator | kergoth: so how does it work, are you *always* in WoW |
| 03:53.32 | kergoth | ? |
| 03:53.42 | gonkulator | or am I just totally confused |
| 03:53.50 | pagefault | I made a priest |
| 03:53.58 | pagefault | he's only level 10 now though |
| 03:54.11 | kergoth | you should play your shaman :) |
| 03:54.15 | darth_mall | gonkulator: you log in |
| 03:54.28 | pagefault | yeah I am so close to getting to level 60 on my warlock |
| 03:54.31 | pagefault | then I will go play the shaman :) |
| 03:54.37 | kergoth | everything is on the server. the world, your characters, etc |
| 03:54.40 | kergoth | pagefault: cool |
| 03:54.43 | darth_mall | yay Aliens! |
| 03:54.56 | pagefault | I just need at least one complete character :) |
| 03:55.40 | kergoth | veight is doing The Deadmines in westfall with a horde char |
| 03:55.42 | kergoth | hehe |
| 03:55.43 | nullpuppy | yay, firefox crashed again |
| 03:55.54 | darth_mall | kergoth: send him to his room |
| 04:18.57 | darth_mall | oh noes! |
| 04:19.03 | darth_mall | a sequel to Underworld |
| 04:19.13 | kergoth | saw that coming |
| 04:19.30 | darth_mall | it's a good thing it's about vampires and Kate Beckinsale is hot |
| 04:26.50 | kergoth | yep |
| 04:31.42 | scanlime | wow |
| 04:31.48 | scanlime | USB 2 hubs are really power hungry |
| 04:31.51 | scanlime | 280mA idle |
| 04:37.39 | darth_mall | I think firefox went all 'splodey on me |
| 05:01.35 | darth_mall | man I can't wait for the Brothers Grimm |
| 05:20.33 | pagefault | is that going to be good? |
| 05:20.52 | darth_mall | I have high hopes. it was directed by Terry Gilliam ^^ |
| 05:21.00 | pagefault | cool |
| 05:21.12 | pagefault | what else did he direct? |
| 05:21.20 | darth_mall | with the exception of Meaning of Life I've loved everything he's done |
| 05:21.32 | darth_mall | Brazil, Time Bandits... |
| 05:21.39 | darth_mall | all the Monty Python movies |
| 05:21.40 | pagefault | ah cool |
| 05:21.45 | pagefault | wow |
| 05:21.52 | darth_mall | he was one of the Pythons |
| 05:21.55 | darth_mall | he did their animations |
| 05:36.47 | gonkulator | dang it |
| 05:38.59 | gonkulator | w00t |
| 05:39.16 | gonkulator | oops |
| 05:39.22 | gonkulator | stupid kernel panic |
| 05:41.08 | numist | woo |
| 05:43.18 | gonkulator | there we go |
| 05:55.47 | gonkulator | ok, so what do I need to emerge... |
| 06:00.17 | scanlime | whew |
| 06:00.38 | scanlime | lots more plastic work and the hub is mounted, and the power connector ready to glue on |
| 06:00.58 | scanlime | I think all the case needs now are top and bottom covers for the back panel... |
| 06:01.04 | scanlime | then I get to wire this sucker up |
| 06:03.08 | numist | scanlime: got pictures? |
| 06:03.55 | scanlime | I'll take some |
| 06:04.00 | numist | :D |
| 06:04.13 | numist | I got a lotta kit tonight... |
| 06:05.13 | numist | default install of gallery is fugly.. ew |
| 06:05.15 | numist | http://numist.net/gallery/ThunderChickensKit |
| 06:05.21 | numist | got some cool stuff though |
| 06:06.50 | scanlime | damn, I don't think any two screws on this thing are the same |
| 06:07.06 | scanlime | numist: hehe |
| 06:07.30 | numist | the vt102 keyboard is hilarious, it plugs in with what looks like a guitar cable :P |
| 06:08.06 | numist | you should see the way those keys actuate too.. Ive never seen anything like it |
| 06:09.43 | darth_mall | this movie is like a bad cross between The Birds and Gremlins 2 |
| 06:14.58 | scanlime | numist: how heavy is yours? I had only one disk loaded in mine and weighed it at about 10 pounds |
| 06:16.07 | scanlime | http://zero.navi.cx/gallery/navi-usb |
| 06:16.22 | scanlime | nothing's wired up yet, but that's the fan, power connector, and hub in there for a test-fit |
| 06:16.53 | scanlime | yes there isn't enough room to plug anything into the hub, that's because I'm taking off the connectors and just running twisted pair from the IDE boards to the hub board |
| 06:17.22 | scanlime | the hub was also modified to run off external +5V, since its power draw is kind of high and I might as well use that as a load for the ATX supply |
| 06:18.11 | numist | scanlime: my enclosure? it doesnt weigh much at all... aluminum :) |
| 06:18.24 | numist | I have no wires or hub yet though, so add another pound or few |
| 06:18.32 | numist | its hefty and dense, but not really heavy |
| 06:18.36 | scanlime | those disk bays in mine are mostly aluminum.. surely that's where my weight is coming from rather than the plastic |
| 06:19.51 | numist | my roommate says 10 pounds, and thats 4 disks, power supply, and frame |
| 06:20.08 | scanlime | ok |
| 06:20.29 | scanlime | they don't necessarily have to be plexy, since they aren't load bearing or anything.. just need to keep the air in |
| 06:20.54 | scanlime | I prolly should make them plexi, I'm just tired of cutting the damn stuff ;) |
| 06:22.57 | scanlime | CIA-11 hamcannon: * r131 /: |
| 06:22.58 | scanlime | ? |
| 06:26.01 | numist | scanlime: my roommates suggested duct tape... I thought it was a great idea... |
| 06:26.07 | numist | Id like something with less mess though |
| 06:26.41 | scanlime | I thought about duct tape actually :) |
| 06:26.57 | scanlime | if I didn't care about seeing the hub LEDs through the sides I'd be tempted to just wrap it with duct tape |
| 06:27.26 | numist | I kinda want it to look neat and professional though |
| 06:27.33 | numist | and duct tape added to what Ive done would ruin that |
| 06:28.43 | scanlime | yeah |
| 06:29.18 | numist | aside from plexi though, I cant think of anything |
| 06:51.00 | numist | buahaha gallery is fun |
| 06:51.09 | numist | my next car: http://numist.net/gallery/OfTheSun |
| 06:54.34 | nullpuppy | ooh! |
| 06:54.44 | nullpuppy | its the room with a mouse episode! |
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| 07:24.09 | numist | scanlime: I was just thinking... is there a decent way to handle power failure so the disks dont have the oppotunity to eat themselves? since I dont have a hotswap system, it seems to me like the drives may pretty often get caught powering down with the heads still out on the platters |
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| 07:42.33 | scanlime | numist: this isn't the 1980s, you shouldn't need to park disk heads ;) |
| 07:42.40 | numist | true.... |
| 07:42.51 | numist | still feel bad having a switch that just kills power immediately |
| 07:43.01 | scanlime | what do you think your PC does? |
| 07:43.08 | numist | hehe, yeah I know |
| 07:43.20 | numist | it parks the heads, and then cuts power to the disks :P |
| 07:43.24 | scanlime | hmm, a switch |
| 07:43.45 | numist | yeah, since its atx, Im using the motherboard control line to control power to the whole unit |
| 07:44.01 | numist | I already chopped off the atx plug and set up the wiring |
| 07:45.07 | scanlime | blah. I was hoping I could test mine tonight.. but this power cable is being a real pain to solder |
| 07:45.18 | numist | :( |
| 07:45.18 | scanlime | not long enough to keep the heat shrink away from the heat |
| 07:45.23 | scanlime | I should get to bed |
| 07:45.29 | numist | yay heat shrink |
| 07:45.37 | scanlime | yeah |
| 07:45.41 | numist | I should put in an order to newegg, but Im waiting for my car to sell :/ |
| 07:45.44 | scanlime | I already have a nice 4-way splitter cable |
| 07:45.53 | numist | sweet |
| 07:45.58 | scanlime | need to make a really short cable that goes from the main power input to the splitter, the fan, and the USB hub |
| 07:46.30 | scanlime | hmm |
| 07:46.31 | numist | I should probably clean up the wiring in my setup.... but besides the old atx plug's wires.. . everything else fit rather nicely... not too much randome wiring |
| 07:46.37 | scanlime | a couple more pictures before bed maybe |
| 07:46.41 | numist | did you concat the usb cables, out of curiosity? |
| 07:49.30 | scanlime | huh? |
| 07:50.46 | scanlime | I wasn't planning on using any part of the original USB cables |
| 07:51.20 | numist | well then |
| 07:51.21 | scanlime | power comes from the hot-swap bay, ground is already wired via the shared power cables, so you really only need a single twisted-pair |
| 07:51.25 | numist | oh wire directly into the hub then? |
| 07:51.28 | scanlime | right |
| 07:51.38 | numist | ohh, thats good.... thats really good |
| 07:51.47 | scanlime | it's such a short distance that I'm not really worried about shielding- was just going to use a 6-inch section of twisted pair from a cut up cat5 |
| 07:51.58 | numist | you know, this is whats so great about open anything... collaboration |
| 07:52.03 | scanlime | yea |
| 07:52.12 | numist | hey, cat5 would be perfect for the data job |
| 07:52.22 | scanlime | well, not perfect.. the USB 2 spec is picky |
| 07:52.28 | numist | and then power from the power supply directly... |
| 07:52.30 | scanlime | but it should get the job done |
| 07:52.48 | scanlime | you want to be able to turn off the usb adaptor when you hotswap a disk |
| 07:53.27 | numist | hey, and Ive got a ton of +5v lines from the atx plug I cut off |
| 07:53.46 | scanlime | hopefully your USB hub is as much of a power hog as mine is |
| 07:53.46 | numist | hrm... |
| 07:53.52 | numist | hehe |
| 07:53.57 | scanlime | it'd make a perfect load to keep the +5V on the ATX supply over its minimum load |
| 07:54.03 | numist | so how do you manage powering down each individual usbide bit? |
| 07:54.11 | scanlime | I have pictures of that :) |
| 07:54.15 | numist | oh hell, minimum loads... |
| 07:54.23 | numist | link me to your gallery again, please |
| 07:54.29 | scanlime | http://zero.navi.cx/gallery/navi-usb |
| 07:54.34 | scanlime | not uploaded quite yet though |
| 07:54.37 | numist | well, the disks will do the 12v, usb stuff the 5v |
| 07:54.53 | numist | wow, yoube made progress... |
| 07:54.59 | numist | I have to make my usbide order before I can continue :/ |
| 07:55.05 | numist | nice bending job |
| 07:55.14 | scanlime | hehe |
| 07:55.19 | numist | dremel as the cutter for the fan hole? |
| 07:55.21 | scanlime | it looks better than it did before tonight |
| 07:55.22 | scanlime | yes |
| 07:55.29 | scanlime | I have a nice 120mm plexiglass coaster now |
| 07:55.32 | numist | teach me your processes |
| 07:55.44 | scanlime | it's really not as clean as it looks in that picture |
| 07:56.02 | numist | but its still better than Id have done... mine would be an irregular 40-gon |
| 07:56.12 | scanlime | really simple process- attached the fan grill on the opposite side, traced it with the dremel, then used a grinder tool to smooth it out |
| 07:56.28 | numist | so you just soldered the data leads to the bottom of the hub... |
| 07:56.31 | scanlime | that's the great part about plexi, you can see through it. |
| 07:56.35 | numist | hehe |
| 07:56.39 | scanlime | I haven't done that yet, but that's the plan |
| 07:56.44 | numist | ok |
| 07:56.56 | numist | ah I see the irregularities in the larger view |
| 07:58.06 | scanlime | this will show the current state of the USB hub, and how I wired the power for each usb-ide adaptor |
| 07:58.22 | scanlime | I had to run a small wire inside each drive bay to pick up +5V after it goes through the MOSFET switch |
| 07:58.47 | scanlime | they have a little key-lock on the front that both mechanically secures the disk and enables power to it |
| 07:58.49 | numist | mosfet? |
| 07:58.57 | numist | the key switch, right? |
| 07:59.02 | scanlime | but the key-lock doesn't switch the power itself, it just turns on a power transistor in the back |
| 07:59.08 | numist | ah |
| 07:59.08 | scanlime | the FET is the power transistor |
| 07:59.12 | scanlime | it's in an 8-pin IC package |
| 07:59.18 | scanlime | ok, reload |
| 07:59.26 | numist | excellent |
| 07:59.29 | scanlime | p1010007 is the inside of the drive bays |
| 07:59.49 | numist | I love hot glue |
| 07:59.54 | scanlime | hehe, yep |
| 08:00.06 | scanlime | and now the USB hub is without connectors, and has power soldered where its +5 regulator used to be |
| 08:00.11 | numist | dang... well good thing I didnt intend on hotswapping :P |
| 08:00.34 | numist | Im going to have to use your power distribution idea |
| 08:00.40 | scanlime | I should see how much a 4-disk hotswap enclosure usually runs.. I know I've seen these for $400 or so |
| 08:00.46 | scanlime | which idea? |
| 08:00.51 | numist | wire the adapters directly to the power supply... |
| 08:00.58 | scanlime | ah, yeah |
| 08:00.58 | numist | cat5 to the usb hub |
| 08:01.15 | scanlime | I'll let you know how that works- never done wiring for high-speed USB yet, not sure how picky it is |
| 08:01.18 | numist | I might want something a bit smarter on signal though... since Ill have about... 7 inches to run at the longest distance |
| 08:01.20 | scanlime | but over 6 inches I doubt it matters |
| 08:01.25 | numist | d'oh |
| 08:01.39 | scanlime | still- under a foot, nobody's going to notice a little EMI, I'd guess |
| 08:01.40 | scanlime | but we'll see |
| 08:01.44 | numist | hrm... wonder what it would take to add activity lights :D |
| 08:01.55 | numist | yep, you get to test first, I wont have the parts in time |
| 08:01.57 | scanlime | I think you can basically just hook an LED up to one of the pins on the ATA interface |
| 08:02.03 | numist | worst comes to worst... I just shorten the usb cable itself |
| 08:02.08 | numist | realllly? |
| 08:02.17 | numist | now that would be something |
| 08:02.18 | scanlime | I've seen lots of adaptors that give you disk activity LEDs that just plug into the disk |
| 08:02.23 | scanlime | these drive bays do that- |
| 08:02.27 | scanlime | the green light on each is power, the red is activity |
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| 08:02.42 | numist | could you do a trace for me sometime? I dont have the hardware here to figure it out |
| 08:02.55 | numist | no rush, obviously |
| 08:03.04 | scanlime | google turns it up, I think |
| 08:03.14 | scanlime | http://hachi.kuiki.net/projects/ide-led/ |
| 08:03.43 | scanlime | there are lots of variations on that I'm sure you could do |
| 08:03.45 | numist | interesting... looks like Ill need something other than just wires and lights |
| 08:04.04 | scanlime | well, if you can't trust the disk controller to drive an LED directly you'll need a buffer |
| 08:04.12 | scanlime | either a transistor (not sure why this guy used two) or a simple logic chip |
| 08:04.12 | numist | that one looks pretty clear cut |
| 08:04.51 | numist | buaha, and even though his example shows bus activity... it wont matter for us.... one driver per 'bus' |
| 08:04.56 | scanlime | yup |
| 08:05.01 | numist | too awesome |
| 08:05.27 | numist | pin 39, thats the one |
| 08:06.01 | numist | yay schematics |
| 08:06.13 | scanlime | wow |
| 08:06.23 | numist | here's why he used two transistors: http://hachi.kuiki.net/projects/ide-led/ide-led.pdf |
| 08:06.35 | scanlime | $1395 |
| 08:06.40 | numist | whoa |
| 08:06.46 | numist | glad your making your own |
| 08:06.50 | scanlime | I saw the schematic- that doesn't explain why |
| 08:07.03 | numist | well what would you implement? |
| 08:07.17 | scanlime | well, that arrangement is called a darlington pair |
| 08:07.26 | scanlime | it's a way of increasing the gain |
| 08:07.41 | scanlime | I'm not sure why he'd bother doing that, since the gain shouldn't need to be that high |
| 08:07.53 | scanlime | nah, just get a couple books and start a hobby |
| 08:07.58 | numist | love to |
| 08:07.59 | scanlime | school is very overrated |
| 08:08.07 | numist | but I did so badly in CS classes that I was dismissed |
| 08:08.12 | numist | dont know if theyd let me back in as cs |
| 08:08.23 | scanlime | see, classes are bad for you |
| 08:08.28 | numist | for me anyway |
| 08:08.37 | numist | unfortunately for me... a lot of people want to see that piece of paper |
| 08:08.44 | scanlime | I know the feeling |
| 08:08.58 | numist | really? I figured you never really had any issues with.... anything |
| 08:09.09 | scanlime | hah |
| 08:09.11 | scanlime | I have awful grades |
| 08:09.23 | numist | well I gotta say that makes me feel better |
| 08:10.01 | scanlime | I just stopped trying for a couple semesters... |
| 08:10.18 | scanlime | and even when I was relatively motivated, I could never concentrate on school |
| 08:10.24 | scanlime | too boring |
| 08:10.32 | numist | in my own defence, working 60 - 80 hour weeks to pay for my school while I was in classes was a bad idea |
| 08:10.40 | numist | yeah... damn boring |
| 08:10.42 | scanlime | nod |
| 08:10.48 | numist | hah perfect, atx has 4x5V lines... perfect for rerouting to usb |
| 08:11.02 | numist | I wonder if I can make any use of the 3.3v or -12v lines |
| 08:11.08 | scanlime | even when I was in a class teaching something I loved to do on my own, I couldn't do well. I just wouldn't try on the homework because it was so repetitive |
| 08:11.16 | scanlime | heheh |
| 08:11.27 | scanlime | well, it's likely your USB hub internally runs everything on 3.3v :P |
| 08:11.36 | numist | I remember that... I used to love data structures until I took the class |
| 08:11.45 | numist | hey... usb hub supplement :P |
| 08:11.51 | scanlime | hehe |
| 08:11.53 | numist | Ill have to poke at it with my multimeter for a while |
| 08:11.58 | numist | *ZOT* |
| 08:12.15 | scanlime | I wouldn't recommend using 3.3v for anything unless you've got a decent load on it |
| 08:12.27 | numist | I could always throw in an idle cpu or two... |
| 08:12.32 | numist | for no reason at all |
| 08:12.39 | scanlime | most supplies won't turn on at all unless 5V has 100ma or so at least on it.. and the regulation on the other outputs always sucks when they're not under load |
| 08:12.54 | scanlime | this little micro-atx supply works without a load, but gives me 5.5v and 10.9v instead of 5 and 12 |
| 08:12.58 | numist | yeah... I may as well just pull the solder from the power supply board and make it forget 3.3v ever existed |
| 08:13.05 | scanlime | yeah |
| 08:13.12 | numist | whoops, thats some odd voltages |
| 08:13.25 | numist | well the disks will probably make some/enough load |
| 08:13.29 | numist | if not the usb hub |
| 08:13.39 | scanlime | the USB hub should do the job fine, the disks definitely will |
| 08:13.49 | scanlime | usb2 is a power hungry way to communicate |
| 08:14.16 | numist | so, how would you wire up that circuit for the led then, if not with the darlingon pair? |
| 08:14.17 | scanlime | IIRC it takes a constant current of 18ma or so just to drive the bus, plus there's a very fast and very power hungry ASIC running it all |
| 08:14.23 | numist | wow |
| 08:14.30 | scanlime | numist: one transistor, different resistor values :) |
| 08:14.36 | scanlime | numist: I'd have to look at the ATA spec |
| 08:14.40 | numist | :/ |
| 08:14.48 | numist | alrighty then |
| 08:14.54 | scanlime | but you might as well do it his way, it's been tested |
| 08:15.07 | numist | true |
| 08:15.14 | numist | guess Ill need a pcb for it... |
| 08:15.27 | scanlime | nah |
| 08:15.35 | numist | loose wiring? |
| 08:15.41 | numist | and heat shrink |
| 08:15.52 | scanlime | if you wanted to that would work, but I was thinking perfboard or veroboard/stripboard |
| 08:16.23 | numist | oh that |
| 08:16.24 | numist | yeah |
| 08:16.37 | numist | perfboard is what I was thinking of... not a pcb |
| 08:18.48 | scanlime | hmm. everybody that makes 4-disk external enclosures seems to either use SATA or include a built-in raid controller |
| 08:19.11 | numist | yes, I saw one at frys and that struck me as our difference |
| 08:19.22 | numist | mine, at least, will always mount as 4 disks, unionfs or not, theyre there |
| 08:20.20 | scanlime | found a 4-disk SATA hot-swap bay for $120.. but that's basically just the disk drawers, doesn't include any converters or hub |
| 08:20.34 | scanlime | 2-disk firewire hotswap box for $200 |
| 08:21.10 | numist | woof |
| 08:21.19 | scanlime | ooh |
| 08:21.22 | numist | I like our ideas better, your hotswap and my integrated box |
| 08:21.24 | scanlime | found one that's just like mine, but 2 disks |
| 08:21.25 | scanlime | $180 |
| 08:21.52 | ChipX86 | it got late |
| 08:21.56 | scanlime | these are cheaper than I thought |
| 08:22.05 | scanlime | ChipX86: oog.. it did. I should sleep |
| 08:22.11 | ChipX86 | same |
| 08:22.54 | scanlime | http://www.usbgear.com/USB-Enlosures.html |
| 08:23.06 | ChipX86 | A former America Online software engineer was sentenced to 15 months in prison for stealing 92 million screen names and e-mail addresses and selling them to spammers who sent out up to 7 billion unsolicited e-mail messages, according to this A.P. story in the Baltimore Sun. |
| 08:23.09 | scanlime | hmm.. a 2-disk USB2 non-hotswappable enclosure for $80 |
| 08:23.27 | scanlime | that's really not bad at all considering how much just the usb-ide adaptors cost |
| 08:25.17 | numist | scanlime: they dont cost the same to them as they do to us :) |
| 08:25.25 | scanlime | nod |
| 08:27.52 | ChipX86 | heh, this guy in #vmware is so confused |
| 08:28.14 | scanlime | is there a #vmware on here? |
| 08:28.18 | ChipX86 | the other day he was asking questions and said he installed something in his vmware.. of course he meant his VM, so I corrected him. Now he's calling VMware "VM" |
| 08:28.22 | scanlime | oh, I guess there is |
| 08:28.50 | ChipX86 | it's an unofficial channel |
| 08:29.07 | scanlime | nod |
| 08:29.12 | numist | ChipX86: killings too good for them? |
| 08:29.21 | ChipX86 | though some people have gotten pissed at the company and refused to use vmware ever again because nobody in had responded to their questions :) |
| 08:29.29 | scanlime | that happens |
| 08:29.33 | numist | in the channel here? |
| 08:29.35 | numist | what idiots |
| 08:29.38 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 08:29.46 | ChipX86 | some people think it's official and is staffed 24/7 |
| 08:29.59 | ChipX86 | it's a fun channel to watch sometimes |
| 08:30.07 | ChipX86 | but be careful about letting on that you work at vmware ;) |
| 08:30.11 | numist | hehe |
| 08:30.24 | scanlime | yeah |
| 08:30.54 | ChipX86 | I told one guy in private, because he asked, and he said he wouldn't tell anybody. Next time I joined, people were asking me questions and saying "I heard you work at VMware!" |
| 08:31.05 | scanlime | haha |
| 08:31.20 | scanlime | I should claim I work at apple >:) |
| 08:31.20 | ChipX86 | turns out he told a few different channels that he met somebody from vmware and the screenname is ChipX86, etc |
| 08:31.24 | ChipX86 | haha |
| 08:31.46 | numist | hey, I know this guy that owns microsoft, his screenname is lilo, etc |
| 08:32.31 | ChipX86 | hahah |
| 08:32.32 | ChipX86 | http://www.news.com.au/story/0,10117,16307559-1243,00.html |
| 08:33.24 | scanlime | wow |
| 08:34.59 | scanlime | numist: one thing I briefly considered with this hub.. mine doesn't have any custom USB descriptors, it just comes up as "hub" in usbview. It shoudl be possible to add an EEPROM with your own descriptors |
| 08:35.03 | ChipX86 | Head of Pixar dies after his car drives off the road over a cliff, into the ocean |
| 08:35.15 | scanlime | so instead of 'generic usb hub' you'd be plugging in a '4-port USB Disk Enclosure' or something :) |
| 08:35.30 | scanlime | really? |
| 08:35.38 | ChipX86 | http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/thr/film/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1001017138 |
| 08:35.48 | numist | scanlime: I have no idea how to do that, but if you'll take the time, Id damn well want to learn and implement that |
| 08:36.56 | scanlime | ChipX86: =( |
| 08:36.58 | numist | hmm... should we bother with temperature? |
| 08:37.10 | numist | ChipX86: whoa, bad |
| 08:37.20 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 08:37.27 | scanlime | numist: I (very very briefly) thought about adding an rcpod that would control fan speed and read temperature :P |
| 08:37.31 | scanlime | very briefly :P |
| 08:38.35 | numist | scanlime: well I can already place probes that will control fan speed... not a problem there.. I was thinking of reporting... oh thats silly |
| 08:38.45 | numist | definitely Ill do fan speed based on temp, but I dont need to know the numbers |
| 08:39.10 | scanlime | http://www.cypress.com/portal/server.pt?space=CommunityPage&control=SetCommunity&CommunityID=209&PageID=259&fid=15&rpn=CY7C65640A |
| 08:39.13 | scanlime | mwahaha..that's the chip in my hub |
| 08:39.44 | numist | nice |
| 08:40.03 | numist | hrm... if thats going to be programmed, Im going to need to get the same hub, arent I |
| 08:40.17 | ChipX86 | hah |
| 08:40.17 | scanlime | most hubs have an EEPROM, the format just differs a little |
| 08:40.27 | numist | alrighty |
| 08:40.34 | numist | you have an eeprom reader/writer, right? |
| 08:40.34 | ChipX86 | they're reporting that one of the stars of the original Power Rangers series committed murder |
| 08:40.39 | scanlime | I don't think I'm actually going to bother reprogramming the hub, it's just a fun idea :) |
| 08:40.52 | ChipX86 | one of the stars, in this case, means a kid in the background with no lines |
| 08:40.54 | scanlime | numist: no, but it's easy to build one. I'd probably just plug it into an RCPOD and write a tiny python script to do it |
| 08:40.54 | numist | I like the idea... Im for it if you have time and Im in town sometime |
| 08:41.03 | numist | hehe |
| 08:41.22 | scanlime | ChipX86: wow |
| 08:41.36 | ChipX86 | sure makes for good news! |
| 08:41.42 | numist | ChipX86: a little slanted, perhaps? |
| 08:41.42 | ChipX86 | "Former Power Ranger commits murder" and such |
| 08:42.02 | ChipX86 | not even listed in imdb anywhere |
| 08:42.49 | ChipX86 | ugh |
| 08:42.52 | ChipX86 | he and his wife drowned a couple |
| 08:42.57 | numist | yikes |
| 08:42.58 | ChipX86 | so that they could steal their yacht. |
| 08:43.32 | numist | scanlime: its possible to just cut the usb cable so it is long enough, and then solder that to the hub, isnt it? or is the usb cable not really robust enough for soldering |
| 08:43.41 | scanlime | sure |
| 08:43.46 | scanlime | that's even preferable to using cat5 |
| 08:43.52 | numist | thats what I was thinking |
| 08:43.54 | scanlime | since yeah, you still have the shield |
| 08:44.15 | numist | and... I dont think theres a reason for me to explicitly send power supply power to the usb adapter, since the hub can do it, really |
| 08:44.37 | numist | night chippy |
| 08:44.44 | ChipX86 | g'night |
| 08:45.01 | scanlime | numist: right. I'm only doing it because I need to be able to turn off each adaptor |
| 08:45.23 | numist | I can use those 4x5V lines from the power supply for the activity LEDs and whatever else I implement then |
| 08:45.29 | numist | much cleaner that way, Im thinking |
| 08:45.42 | numist | excellent |
| 08:45.53 | numist | I need to cough up some fast cash and send it to newegg then |
| 08:48.26 | numist | it got late fast :/ |
| 08:48.31 | numist | night scanlime, get some sleep |
| 08:48.44 | scanlime | yeah, I'm no my way |
| 08:48.48 | scanlime | s/no/on |
| 08:48.49 | scanlime | g'night |
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| 13:59.58 | kergoth | morning |
| 14:17.12 | kergoth | http://www.retrothing.com/2005/08/the_imsai_serie.html |
| 14:26.29 | gonkulator | aw nuts |
| 14:44.18 | Cae | hmm. do I wish to create a new cam character.. |
| 14:44.33 | file[laptop] | I shall consume food in approximately 16 minutes |
| 14:50.47 | kergoth | VFS: Busy inodes after unmount. Self-destruct in 5 seconds. Have a nice day... |
| 14:57.07 | file[laptop] | are you having a nice day? |
| 14:57.14 | file[laptop] | if so, it delivers everything it promises |
| 15:00.20 | ChipX86 | :( I'm awake! |
| 15:00.25 | Cae | hehe |
| 15:00.31 | Cae | you seem so happy about it too |
| 15:00.43 | kergoth | poor ChipX86 and his wakefulness |
| 15:00.51 | ChipX86 | I was having a delightfully screwed up dream and got a phone call |
| 15:01.34 | ChipX86 | it was that hosting company that had an account set up under my misspelled name, who sent a collections agency at me |
| 15:01.38 | ChipX86 | it was actually the owner |
| 15:01.43 | kergoth | ugh, whatd they want |
| 15:01.58 | ChipX86 | they were contacted by the BBB (since I contacted the BBB) and she wanted to clear things up |
| 15:02.09 | kergoth | ah |
| 15:02.11 | ChipX86 | it seems that it's basically a very tiny company |
| 15:02.18 | ChipX86 | and she's not thrilled how this was handled |
| 15:02.26 | ChipX86 | sounded like she was kind of upset (not at me) about this whole thing |
| 15:02.50 | ChipX86 | so she gave me her direct phone number |
| 15:03.11 | Cae | interesting |
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| 15:18.38 | ChipX86 | being up early, I could go in early, except I still have to wait until past 12 for my laptop to arrive :P |
| 15:19.04 | kergoth | heh |
| 15:48.45 | Cae | oh god, my mind should not be allowed out to play today |
| 15:49.04 | ChipX86 | ? |
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| 16:01.44 | Veight | hello! |
| 16:03.28 | gonkulator | hello Veight |
| 16:03.38 | gonkulator | are you on WoW right now? |
| 16:14.08 | gonkulator | stupid phone |
| 16:14.36 | gonkulator | later Cae|Food |
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| 16:21.46 | ChipX86 | yay, my 2200BG came |
| 16:24.55 | gonkulator | 2200BG? |
| 16:25.07 | numist | dang, I dislike wasted space |
| 16:25.19 | ChipX86 | gonkulator: wifi card for my laptop |
| 16:25.34 | gonkulator | oh, ok |
| 16:25.39 | numist | you didnt get your lappy back yet, chippy, did you? |
| 16:25.59 | ChipX86 | nope, today though |
| 16:26.05 | ChipX86 | stupid DHL doesn't drop packages off at the office |
| 16:26.25 | scanlime | heh. fernando in #vmware seems to want a patch that causes a kernel panic |
| 16:26.34 | numist | ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~777777777777776yyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyt |
| 16:26.38 | Veight | gonkulator: yes |
| 16:26.43 | numist | ack... bloody cat |
| 16:27.00 | Veight | that was the reason my response was so late hehe |
| 16:28.39 | gonkulator | Veight: thats what I figured |
| 16:29.16 | ChipX86 | oh great, remote access isn't working |
| 16:29.45 | gonkulator | this comp is so fast! |
| 16:32.22 | ChipX86 | hurray, I'm an idiot |
| 16:32.34 | ChipX86 | and also, booo vnc server |
| 16:34.39 | numist | gonkulator: it parses ok... just a bit long :) |
| 16:37.04 | gonkulator | yeah |
| 16:41.53 | gonkulator | and darn |
| 16:47.09 | ChipX86 | ok, running vncviewer localhost is funny, but bad |
| 16:47.14 | ChipX86 | and is not what I intended |
| 16:47.23 | ChipX86 | vino gets horribly confused |
| 16:50.44 | ChipX86 | yow |
| 16:50.52 | ChipX86 | vncviewer -fullscreen is hard to get out of |
| 17:01.56 | gonkulator | why is it that every time I go to the bathroom my cell phone rings... |
| 17:04.21 | ChipX86 | ladies and gentlemen! May I have your attention please! |
| 17:04.30 | ChipX86 | Workstation 5.5 Beta 1 is now available for download |
| 17:04.40 | nullpuppy | w00t! |
| 17:04.41 | gonkulator | w00000t |
| 17:04.45 | gonkulator | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:05.25 | ChipX86 | cv{? |
| 17:06.28 | nullpuppy | doh, i'm blind.. where are the betas? |
| 17:06.33 | ChipX86 | nullpuppy: I'm trying to find them too |
| 17:06.40 | nullpuppy | haha, k :) |
| 17:08.19 | ChipX86 | hmmm |
| 17:08.20 | ChipX86 | you know.. |
| 17:08.22 | ChipX86 | it might not be public |
| 17:08.29 | nullpuppy | hrm |
| 17:09.34 | ChipX86 | this really should be workstation 6 |
| 17:09.47 | nullpuppy | hehe |
| 17:09.48 | nullpuppy | cool |
| 17:11.20 | ChipX86 | ok it's private |
| 17:11.27 | nullpuppy | doh, ok |
| 17:11.33 | ChipX86 | what's your preferred e-mail address? |
| 17:11.41 | ChipX86 | and how do you spell your last name |
| 17:11.42 | ChipX86 | ? |
| 17:11.42 | nullpuppy | for this, dustin@dukn.net |
| 17:11.46 | nullpuppy | and Knie |
| 17:12.20 | ChipX86 | numist: ping |
| 17:15.44 | ChipX86 | anyone know numist's e-mail address? |
| 17:16.30 | numist | yes, I do |
| 17:16.35 | ChipX86 | ah good |
| 17:16.38 | numist | numist@gmail.com |
| 17:16.38 | ChipX86 | numist: want to be on the vmware beta list? |
| 17:16.42 | numist | sorry, just got in to work |
| 17:16.46 | numist | absolutely :) |
| 17:17.10 | nullpuppy | stupid roommate, gotta drive him to work.. |
| 17:17.12 | gonkulator | ChipX86: gonkulator@gmail.com and my name is Brandon Smith :) |
| 17:17.16 | ChipX86 | gonkulator: too late :( |
| 17:17.20 | gonkulator | :( |
| 17:17.39 | ChipX86 | nah I can still add you |
| 17:17.51 | gonkulator | lol |
| 17:18.36 | ChipX86 | your last name is Smith? |
| 17:19.04 | gonkulator | yep |
| 17:19.17 | gonkulator | pretty common |
| 17:19.41 | ChipX86 | wasn't sure if that was your last name or for the purpose of spam evasion :) I can't remember if I knew you last name before.. I'm so bad with things like that |
| 17:20.16 | ChipX86 | ok, sent your names to Srinivas, and he'll add you |
| 17:20.22 | gonkulator | thanks ChipX86! |
| 17:20.27 | nullpuppy | ok, i'll be back soon |
| 17:20.45 | ChipX86 | you can each expect to get an NDA to fax, 20 or 30 pages of forms to fill out based on your experience, and a guide to what you need to test before next week |
| 17:21.39 | gonkulator | mkay |
| 17:21.46 | ChipX86 | I'm kidding |
| 17:22.09 | ChipX86 | though if you do discover problems, please post on the forums, and if they're UI-related, let me know |
| 17:22.14 | gonkulator | ok |
| 17:22.36 | gonkulator | but oh well :) |
| 17:22.39 | ChipX86 | just pretend you have an NDA |
| 17:22.53 | gonkulator | nah, its just not the same |
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| 17:23.08 | ChipX86 | gonkulator: I'm taking your name off unless you promise not to tell anyone about anything about the beta |
| 17:23.15 | ChipX86 | do you agree to the thing I said? |
| 17:23.31 | ChipX86 | congratulations, you're under an NDA |
| 17:23.34 | gonkulator | except on the forums if he finds a problem |
| 17:23.43 | gonkulator | or you if its a UI thing |
| 17:23.45 | ChipX86 | go braggle |
| 17:23.51 | kergoth | woo |
| 17:23.55 | kergoth | i have a computer |
| 17:23.57 | ChipX86 | kergoth: yay! |
| 17:23.59 | ChipX86 | me too! |
| 17:24.03 | kergoth | yay! |
| 17:24.07 | ChipX86 | yay! |
| 17:24.12 | ChipX86 | life is good! |
| 17:24.13 | kergoth | i mean at work, one of my own, not just the svn server |
| 17:24.14 | kergoth | hehe |
| 17:24.16 | kergoth | indeed |
| 17:24.18 | kergoth | and its friday |
| 17:24.22 | ChipX86 | this is fun! |
| 17:24.45 | kergoth | i look forward to getting my own work area to put this computer in |
| 17:24.48 | ChipX86 | lucky scanline's going go-kart racing or something |
| 17:24.50 | kergoth | rather than just sitting on a table next to the rest |
| 17:24.54 | kergoth | g-kart racing? |
| 17:24.55 | kergoth | huh |
| 17:25.06 | ChipX86 | we're only playing Mario Kart. He gets to do the real thing |
| 17:25.08 | ChipX86 | :) |
| 17:25.13 | kergoth | hehe |
| 17:25.17 | ChipX86 | during company time |
| 17:25.29 | gonkulator | company time |
| 17:25.38 | ChipX86 | oh that reminds me, I need to get pics of when we pushed the duck down the waterfall |
| 17:26.51 | Sophie197 | that sounds mean. |
| 17:27.21 | gonkulator | duck down the waterfall? |
| 17:27.39 | file[laptop] | let's pick on kergoth! |
| 17:28.00 | ChipX86 | OH NO |
| 17:28.45 | ChipX86 | It's dead, Jim. |
| 17:28.45 | kergoth | broken? |
| 17:28.48 | kergoth | aw |
| 17:29.51 | numist | yay I secured a morale meeting today :D |
| 17:30.15 | numist | woot |
| 17:30.28 | kergoth | nice |
| 17:30.36 | numist | what Sophie197 doesnt know is that now I have her email address >D |
| 17:30.45 | ChipX86 | hah |
| 17:30.59 | ChipX86 | numist: nice |
| 17:31.02 | ChipX86 | hurray morale meetings! |
| 17:31.15 | ChipX86 | and random duck fudging |
| 17:31.44 | file[laptop] | violating the poor duck, 'tsk 'tsk |
| 17:31.46 | Sophie197 | :) |
| 17:31.56 | ChipX86 | we just sent it down one waterfall |
| 17:32.01 | ChipX86 | it's not even that big a waterfall! |
| 17:32.04 | numist | yay |
| 17:32.15 | file[laptop] | yeah - RIGHT |
| 17:32.19 | file[laptop] | and what did the duck say? |
| 17:32.25 | ChipX86 | http://osiris.chipx86.com/photos/vmware/outside/IMG_2223.jpg |
| 17:32.29 | ChipX86 | see? not that big |
| 17:32.37 | ChipX86 | of course it goes further back than the pic shows |
| 17:32.43 | file[laptop] | that poor poor duck |
| 17:33.45 | Sophie197 | sorry |
| 17:34.16 | Sophie197 | pretty place. |
| 17:36.28 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 17:36.34 | ChipX86 | uh oh, explosion in San Francisco |
| 17:40.52 | ChipX86 | bomb squad, PG&E, and FBI just showed up |
| 17:41.04 | ChipX86 | hurray for the internet being faster than news |
| 17:41.21 | ChipX86 | they're looking for a suspect and evacuating a bunch of buildings in the surrounding area |
| 17:41.35 | ChipX86 | the blast was described as a giant fireball that shot out of a manhole 30 feet into the air |
| 17:44.46 | gonkulator | roflmao |
| 17:44.54 | gonkulator | ChipX86: you pushed a duck down that |
| 17:45.00 | numist | nice |
| 17:45.43 | ChipX86 | gonkulator: I watched a duck being pushed |
| 17:46.15 | ChipX86 | I gathered people for the duck pushing |
| 17:48.15 | gonkulator | explosion in San Fran? |
| 17:48.22 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 17:48.55 | gonkulator | link? |
| 17:49.02 | gonkulator | or is this a TV broadcasted thing |
| 17:49.21 | ChipX86 | there's not much news on it yet |
| 17:49.28 | ChipX86 | we're getting reports at work from people who are in the area |
| 17:50.00 | gonkulator | oh |
| 17:50.24 | gonkulator | because msnbc is talking about |
| 17:50.33 | gonkulator | an attack on US Navy Ships |
| 17:55.13 | nullpuppy | ChipX86: when should I expect to see info about getting said beta? |
| 17:55.51 | numist | yeah, all I got was an email from this Gina fellwo |
| 17:55.55 | numist | fellow* |
| 17:56.02 | nullpuppy | I haven't even gotten that yet :( |
| 17:56.05 | numist | ChipX86: linky? |
| 17:58.22 | gonkulator | an email from this Gina fellow |
| 17:58.50 | Sophie197 | yay |
| 17:59.40 | Sophie197 | I ain't got no email addresses |
| 17:59.43 | Sophie197 | :( |
| 17:59.47 | nullpuppy | :( |
| 18:00.09 | gonkulator | gonkulator@gmail.com |
| 18:00.32 | gonkulator | since we all got in early with the gmail thing, we have <nick>@gmail.com :) |
| 18:00.48 | gonkulator | er $(NICK)@gmail.com |
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| 18:01.23 | kergoth | re |
| 18:01.28 | nullpuppy | wb |
| 18:01.56 | kergoth | bah, i need a white on black color scheme for this xchat :P |
| 18:02.25 | gonkulator | heh |
| 18:03.16 | Sophie197 | oh, okie. |
| 18:04.33 | numist | ok, the usb ide stuff has been ordered :D |
| 18:06.21 | *** join/#tacobeam kergoth (n=kergoth@mail.astrocorp.com) |
| 18:08.46 | ChipX86 | ughhh |
| 18:09.14 | ChipX86 | the QA guy I deal with came in the other day complaining about some behavior in the wizard.. so I fixed it. Now he's complaining about the new behavior, saying it should work a certain way, which is the way it used to work |
| 18:09.31 | numist | ouch |
| 18:09.51 | nullpuppy | haha, damn |
| 18:10.38 | gonkulator | QA people can be funny :) |
| 18:10.45 | numist | yeah |
| 18:11.13 | gonkulator | thats almost as funny as some Tech Support stories :) |
| 18:11.33 | file[laptop] | ChipX86: you should #ifdef the two of them so you can easily switch to please him ;) |
| 18:11.38 | ChipX86 | heh |
| 18:11.42 | ChipX86 | that's annoying |
| 18:11.45 | ChipX86 | he came in complaining about that |
| 18:11.50 | ChipX86 | so we discussed it for a while and came up with this |
| 18:11.54 | ChipX86 | now he realizes he doesn't like this |
| 18:12.02 | ChipX86 | as if it's his decision in the first place |
| 18:12.14 | file[laptop] | uh huh |
| 18:12.48 | Sophie197 | peace* |
| 18:16.06 | file[laptop] | I need to figure out how to set it up so I can do bluetooth access with my Powerbook, and share my 1X CDMA connection over it |
| 18:17.45 | Sophie197 | where's this news about a bomb? |
| 18:18.59 | Cae|Food | what? |
| 18:19.33 | ChipX86 | dunno |
| 18:20.13 | gonkulator | Sophie197: I haven't seen any |
| 18:20.19 | gonkulator | Sophie197: just the rocket attack in the middle east |
| 18:20.49 | Sophie197 | hm. |
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| 18:29.12 | ChipX86 | argh, damn Joey. He thinks he's above the rules, so he never sends out a review request... he just committed a massive change that screwed up a lot of stuff and then left for Vegas |
| 18:30.05 | gonkulator | wow, for a minute there I thought you were talking about sean |
| 18:30.36 | ChipX86 | haha |
| 18:30.45 | ChipX86 | actually.. he does seem like Sean in ways |
| 18:31.03 | ChipX86 | a large portion of my time at vmware has been spent rewriting Joey's code |
| 18:32.39 | gonkulator | thats... odd |
| 18:33.40 | ChipX86 | Joey changes the style guidelines as he sees fit, writes badly designed code that always needs replacing, and never submits review requests (which everyone has to do) |
| 18:33.43 | gonkulator | does Joey take all the glory? |
| 18:33.45 | ChipX86 | also never shows up to work |
| 18:33.46 | ChipX86 | no |
| 18:33.51 | ChipX86 | everyone just gets pissed at him |
| 18:33.56 | gonkulator | oh, ok |
| 18:34.22 | gonkulator | well, maybe he will get fired |
| 18:35.02 | file[laptop] | why won't my Powerbook connect to this dang nabbit |
| 18:35.04 | ChipX86 | he's been there for a long time |
| 18:35.06 | file[laptop] | http://www.sprintpcsinfo.com/modules.php?name=Content&pa=showpage&pid=70 |
| 18:35.51 | gonkulator | maybe he won't get fired |
| 18:38.25 | gonkulator | :) |
| 18:38.35 | file | bah |
| 19:01.41 | ChipX86 | my manager is pissed |
| 19:02.07 | Cae | why? |
| 19:02.47 | pagefault_ | wee |
| 19:03.02 | ChipX86 | because Joey committed broken code without review right before a deadline when he was told not to |
| 19:03.23 | pagefault_ | bad boy |
| 19:03.28 | Cae | hehe |
| 19:03.36 | ChipX86 | and then split for Vegas :P |
| 19:04.51 | *** join/#tacobeam kergoth (n=kergoth@mail.astrocorp.com) |
| 19:05.52 | pagefault_ | I feel like going for some quiznos today |
| 19:06.02 | kergoth | mmm, toasted. |
| 19:06.42 | pagefault_ | heh |
| 19:06.44 | pagefault_ | transporter 2 |
| 19:06.55 | gonkulator | ChipX86: maybe kergoth should apply at vmware and put on his resume, in big red letters "Experienced with a cluebat" |
| 19:07.48 | ChipX86 | hah |
| 19:08.08 | nullpuppy | haha |
| 19:08.13 | ChipX86 | meh, not sure about even going in today. Sure there's games, but by the time the laptop comes and with travel time, I won't be there long |
| 19:08.19 | nullpuppy | of course, every software house needs its own team of code thugs |
| 19:08.34 | kergoth | yes, i could threaten joey with sharp pointy objects for chip |
| 19:08.37 | kergoth | :D |
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| 19:08.43 | kergoth | mm, taco |
| 19:08.53 | gonkulator | ok, time to clean the car and deposit checks |
| 19:09.39 | pagefault_ | haha |
| 19:09.42 | pagefault_ | WoW card game coming soon |
| 19:09.49 | lurgy|work | hoo-haw! |
| 19:10.14 | kergoth | pagefault_, hah |
| 19:11.57 | pagefault_ | the next patch is going to be so good |
| 19:12.42 | kergoth | yep |
| 19:12.56 | kergoth | the arathi basin bg is gonna be great |
| 19:13.10 | pagefault_ | yeah |
| 19:13.28 | pagefault_ | the new dungeon is nice too |
| 19:13.31 | pagefault_ | 20 person raid |
| 19:13.40 | kergoth | i'm actually using gnome on this ubuntu box. havent used gnome in years, though i use gnome apps all the time |
| 19:13.44 | kergoth | cool |
| 19:14.14 | file | pagefault_: you should come along with my work crew and the Sangoma crew when we go to the bars in October!!! |
| 19:14.23 | file | cause, like, they pay! |
| 19:14.26 | pagefault_ | haha |
| 19:14.29 | pagefault_ | in toronto? |
| 19:14.31 | file | yes |
| 19:14.35 | pagefault_ | ooh |
| 19:14.46 | pagefault_ | do I need to pretend I know something about voip? |
| 19:14.50 | file | maybe |
| 19:15.09 | file | I could pull it off as a favor back to you for letting me stay overnight at your place |
| 19:15.18 | file | getting you drunk, that's a great payment back LOL |
| 19:15.29 | pagefault_ | haha |
| 19:15.33 | pagefault_ | that shouldn't be a problem, for both |
| 19:15.39 | pagefault_ | but I think taking the subway back would be a good idea |
| 19:18.10 | file | I see alive people. |
| 19:18.38 | pagefault_ | raining again |
| 19:19.12 | file | it's nice here, but I'm cold |
| 19:19.15 | pagefault_ | at least it gets me out of cutting the lawn |
| 19:19.16 | pagefault_ | :) |
| 19:19.20 | file | hehe |
| 19:20.21 | file | pagefault_: when do you return to school? |
| 19:21.18 | file | great - satellite uplink failure for TBS |
| 19:22.19 | file | Channel 6 'WTBS Can' not authorized. |
| 19:22.46 | file | No signal. |
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| 19:25.43 | pagefault_ | after labour day |
| 19:26.40 | file | ah |
| 19:27.12 | pagefault_ | ooh that was close power almost went out |
| 19:27.16 | pagefault_ | saved by UPS though |
| 19:30.09 | pagefault_ | yay |
| 19:34.19 | kergoth | god today is going by slowly |
| 19:34.19 | kergoth | heh |
| 19:34.29 | kergoth | damn fridays |
| 19:35.10 | pagefault_ | must be a bad storm |
| 19:35.11 | kergoth | yay |
| 19:35.15 | pagefault_ | digital cable went out |
| 19:35.17 | kergoth | i should go get a coffee at a coffe shop |
| 19:36.53 | pagefault_ | eek |
| 19:36.57 | pagefault_ | a lot of storms coming |
| 19:36.58 | numist | nice, my boss is playing rage against the machine for the whole office from my speakers :D |
| 19:40.43 | pagefault_ | tornado warning |
| 19:40.45 | pagefault_ | oh well |
| 19:40.50 | pagefault_ | it's not going to stand between me and quiznos |
| 19:41.01 | file | lol |
| 19:41.14 | pagefault_ | it looks disgusting outside though |
| 19:41.43 | pagefault_ | and radar doesn't look too good |
| 19:42.53 | pagefault_ | tornado spotted |
| 19:42.55 | pagefault_ | heh |
| 19:42.58 | pagefault_ | maybe I better not go outside |
| 19:43.28 | numist | but what about quiznos? |
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| 19:48.03 | file[laptop] | wb pagefault |
| 19:48.25 | pfault | thanks |
| 19:49.13 | *** join/#tacobeam slimspace (n=darkstar@70.58.0.34) |
| 19:52.33 | slimspace | Woo! 7Mbit DSL! |
| 19:53.04 | file[laptop] | yay |
| 19:53.24 | slimspace | wow, 750kb/sec sustained transfer |
| 19:53.48 | file[laptop] | slimspace: bandwidth hogger! |
| 19:53.59 | slimspace | :) |
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| 20:04.09 | ChipX86 | hrm, my dvd player can't read this dvd.. it's trying real hard to, though, to the point of me not being able to eject it |
| 20:05.44 | ChipX86 | hrm |
| 20:05.45 | nullpuppy | :( |
| 20:05.46 | ChipX86 | I can't get it to stop |
| 20:06.02 | nullpuppy | still no vmware stuff :/ |
| 20:06.03 | *** join/#tacobeam slimspace (n=ndarksta@70.58.0.34) |
| 20:06.09 | ChipX86 | now what do I do... |
| 20:06.17 | ChipX86 | nullpuppy: it'll be a while. It's all done by busy humans |
| 20:06.19 | file[laptop] | smash it. |
| 20:06.19 | nullpuppy | poke it with a sharp stick |
| 20:06.24 | nullpuppy | k |
| 20:07.10 | ChipX86 | eject, damn you! |
| 20:07.15 | gonkulator | slimspace: will you be around around five |
| 20:07.22 | slimspace | I'm around now, and I will at 5 too |
| 20:07.33 | ChipX86 | so much for using that VM. |
| 20:07.36 | gonkulator | and by around, around where are you? |
| 20:07.43 | slimspace | my apartment |
| 20:08.02 | gonkulator | did you move too, or are you in the canyon apartment complex that I have seen many times before |
| 20:08.11 | slimspace | canyon complex, #1 |
| 20:08.18 | gonkulator | good good |
| 20:08.23 | ChipX86 | I hope this isn't in any way damaging my drive |
| 20:08.40 | slimspace | cool cool |
| 20:08.40 | kergoth | my box at work only has 256 megs of ram :( |
| 20:08.42 | file[laptop] | ChipX86: use the manual eject |
| 20:08.46 | file[laptop] | kergoth: that's sad |
| 20:08.57 | kergoth | athlon xp 2800+ |
| 20:08.58 | kergoth | i can deal with that |
| 20:09.01 | kergoth | i cant deal with 256 megs of ram |
| 20:09.03 | slimspace | hmm, seems we get about 80kb/s upload speed |
| 20:09.21 | pagefault | rain sucks |
| 20:09.22 | gonkulator | kergoth: RAM is cheap on pricewatch |
| 20:09.27 | file[laptop] | pagefault: very true |
| 20:09.31 | kergoth | gonkulator, i'll tell that to my boss :P |
| 20:09.34 | ChipX86 | grr |
| 20:09.37 | ChipX86 | wonder if I should just reboot |
| 20:09.39 | gonkulator | pagefault: yeah, I washed my car, and it started raining on the way home |
| 20:09.45 | pagefault | haha |
| 20:09.46 | pagefault | that always happens |
| 20:09.47 | ChipX86 | this DVD is putting my drive into an infinite loop |
| 20:09.58 | gonkulator | ChipX86: pull the power plug |
| 20:10.00 | gonkulator | that will stop it |
| 20:10.03 | ChipX86 | gonkulator: umm... |
| 20:10.08 | ChipX86 | no? |
| 20:10.15 | gonkulator | just a suggestion :) |
| 20:10.20 | slimspace | scanlime: poke |
| 20:10.28 | file[laptop] | ChipX86: you can push a pin in a hole on the front of the DVD drive, and it will eject it manually... never done it myself with a computer on |
| 20:10.36 | ChipX86 | file[laptop]: it's trying to read from it though |
| 20:10.41 | *** join/#tacobeam lurgy (n=lurgyman@70.58.0.34) |
| 20:10.47 | ChipX86 | it stopped! |
| 20:10.48 | gonkulator | uh oh... not lurgy |
| 20:10.51 | file[laptop] | yay stopped |
| 20:10.52 | pagefault | it's an illiterate dvd player |
| 20:10.59 | kergoth | yay ccache |
| 20:10.59 | ChipX86 | just after I shut down every program but irssi |
| 20:11.03 | pagefault | dvds are fun |
| 20:11.04 | ChipX86 | *sigh* |
| 20:11.18 | file[laptop] | RAM is cheap on Pricewatch |
| 20:11.24 | file[laptop] | I should price out more RAM for my Mini and the Dell |
| 20:11.36 | pagefault | yeah but it's usually like $50 with $20 shipping |
| 20:11.47 | ChipX86 | when is my laptop coming.. |
| 20:11.53 | kergoth | laptop? |
| 20:12.09 | kergoth | GAH |
| 20:12.11 | kergoth | hyperion is down :((( |
| 20:12.12 | ChipX86 | yeah, IBM fixed it, billed me $700, and DHL decided not to leave it at the apartment complex office. |
| 20:12.14 | kergoth | cant ping it from here |
| 20:12.17 | nullpuppy | :( |
| 20:12.21 | file[laptop] | billed you $700? |
| 20:12.25 | ChipX86 | nod |
| 20:12.25 | file[laptop] | that's sad : |
| 20:12.26 | file[laptop] | :( |
| 20:12.32 | nullpuppy | ChipX86: eep :( |
| 20:12.39 | lurgy | uh oh, it must be lurgy |
| 20:12.51 | nullpuppy | kergoth: I decree that you need to replace hyperion with your next check |
| 20:13.05 | kergoth | nullpuppy: my next check will pay my car payment. |
| 20:13.08 | kergoth | maybe the one after :P |
| 20:13.21 | kergoth | i'll watch for one of those cheap as hell dell deals on dealnews or gotapex |
| 20:13.22 | gonkulator | kergoth: I have a P-200 you can borrow in the mean time |
| 20:13.22 | nullpuppy | hehe, ok then :) |
| 20:13.25 | file[laptop] | kergoth: you need a SIP phone though |
| 20:13.31 | file[laptop] | neeeeed |
| 20:13.36 | gonkulator | kergoth: Dell's cheapest is at 299 now |
| 20:13.37 | kergoth | hehe |
| 20:13.45 | file[laptop] | I have a 1.7GHz P4 you can have |
| 20:13.48 | gonkulator | dell.com/tv |
| 20:13.54 | gonkulator | 499 laptop |
| 20:14.08 | kergoth | # $479! Dimension 3000 with 2.8Ghz Pentium 4, 256MB DDR, 40GB HD, 48x CD-RW, Dell e173FP 17" LCD. Use code: ZCW9F590SPPQB8 |
| 20:14.09 | kergoth | jeeze |
| 20:14.17 | file[laptop] | cool |
| 20:14.22 | nullpuppy | wow |
| 20:14.27 | file[laptop] | if you want a cheap server that works great... the SC420 rocks |
| 20:14.37 | nullpuppy | its really too bad that I won't buy dell again :) well... unless its an LCD ... |
| 20:14.38 | gonkulator | file[laptop]: I'll take it (1.7 gHz P4) |
| 20:14.38 | gonkulator | \ |
| 20:14.44 | kergoth | nullpuppy: hehe |
| 20:14.50 | pagefault | well brb |
| 20:14.53 | pagefault | going to get food |
| 20:14.55 | ChipX86 | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:14.56 | pagefault | it stopped raining for now |
| 20:14.57 | kergoth | assembling a new box is more expensive though |
| 20:14.59 | kergoth | hmm |
| 20:15.00 | file[laptop] | gonkulator: reallllllllly! |
| 20:15.16 | gonkulator | file[laptop]: yep |
| 20:15.27 | ChipX86 | 17GB IDE Hard Drive for $23 |
| 20:15.27 | ChipX86 | :P |
| 20:17.34 | file[laptop] | I have a 40GB and 60GB hardrive I'm not using as well... and a 36GB SCSI hardrive |
| 20:17.35 | ChipX86 | me neither |
| 20:17.43 | gonkulator | file[laptop]: I'll take the disks too! |
| 20:17.59 | file[laptop] | I'm somehow not surprised |
| 20:18.00 | gonkulator | file[laptop]: remember all the stuff I sent you :) |
| 20:18.30 | numist | gonkulator: I got 10 sparcstations... you pay shipping :P |
| 20:18.31 | file[laptop] | I need to archive everything off these drives |
| 20:18.38 | numist | actually, I want to keep the sparcserver |
| 20:18.43 | kergoth | hmm, well, hyperion has a really nice antec case i'd want to keep. has drives, though i can always use more. cdrom, who cares. basically need MB+RAM+CPU |
| 20:19.02 | nullpuppy | yup |
| 20:19.07 | gonkulator | numist: nah, you can keep those |
| 20:19.35 | file[laptop] | does anyone have any dell hardrive mounting rails? |
| 20:19.39 | file[laptop] | I need 2 sets |
| 20:20.20 | nullpuppy | numist: hehe, i'd be willing to take you up on one or two of the sparcstations.. but I still have a indigo2 that I need to play with, and I'm running out of room for useless hardware again :) |
| 20:21.23 | file[laptop] | ya know now that I think about it I could turn this into another workstation... |
| 20:21.33 | gonkulator | whoa |
| 20:22.04 | gonkulator | damnit... make is *not* supposed to segfault |
| 20:22.10 | kergoth | lol |
| 20:22.13 | file[laptop] | yeah, that's a bad thing |
| 20:22.30 | file[laptop] | just slightly. |
| 20:24.13 | file[laptop] | so no dell hardrive mounting rails? that's sad :( |
| 20:24.44 | gonkulator | wow, that was fun... |
| 20:24.47 | gonkulator | Kernel Panic |
| 20:25.46 | file[laptop] | ermph I could go the easy route... external drive... |
| 20:27.11 | gonkulator | aw damnit |
| 20:27.16 | gonkulator | it killed my file transfer too |
| 20:39.20 | kergoth | am i alive? |
| 20:39.24 | kergoth | hmm |
| 20:39.30 | nullpuppy | I think so |
| 20:39.41 | nullpuppy | i'm not sure how the dead would IRC |
| 20:39.51 | kergoth | heh. took myself off the network onto a private area to test VLAN |
| 20:40.00 | kergoth | wanted to know if i had come back into the land of the living, which apparently i have |
| 20:40.17 | nullpuppy | :) |
| 20:40.29 | kergoth | vlans under linux are just painless |
| 20:40.36 | kergoth | vconfig add eth0 12 |
| 20:40.52 | kergoth | ifconfig eth0.12 up 192.168.12.1 or whatever |
| 20:40.54 | kergoth | ta da, done |
| 20:41.15 | nullpuppy | :) |
| 20:42.56 | file[laptop] | kergoth: sillyness |
| 20:43.22 | ChipX86 | kergoth: huh. I never knew that syntax. I was using the eth0:0, eth0:1, etc |
| 20:45.03 | kergoth | eth0:0 is the standard naming convention for the old style ethernet aliases |
| 20:45.13 | kergoth | eth0.12 appears to be specific to the use of 802.1q in linux |
| 20:45.15 | kergoth | not sure whats up with it |
| 20:45.27 | kergoth | but the 'ip' command from iproute2 cant handle periods in interface names |
| 20:45.30 | kergoth | forced me into using ifconfig |
| 20:46.26 | kergoth | kinda weird. |
| 20:46.26 | kergoth | almost done with everything i had on my todo list to accomplish today |
| 20:47.08 | file[laptop] | kergoth: sounds like you're doing good at this job |
| 20:47.39 | numist | soo ghetto |
| 20:47.50 | file[laptop] | well that was nice |
| 20:47.50 | *** join/#tacobeam kergoth (n=kergoth@mail.astrocorp.com) |
| 20:47.54 | file[laptop] | kergoth: wb |
| 20:47.56 | numist | so Im burning a cd for a coworker from an image on a MS dvd, but my desktops dvd drive is broken.... |
| 20:48.24 | numist | sooo... share the dvd off my laptop, mount it on the desktop over the network and burn... looks like itll sustain 8x max sustained |
| 20:48.50 | numist | actually, that may be the limit of my dvdrom |
| 20:49.26 | kergoth | whee |
| 20:49.29 | kergoth | thanks |
| 20:50.32 | Cae | leaving (or preparing to, rather). |
| 20:50.35 | Cae | have fun guys :) |
| 20:50.45 | *** part/#tacobeam Cae (n=cae@pixpat.austin.ibm.com) |
| 20:50.57 | nullpuppy | wheee |
| 20:51.03 | nullpuppy | x11 for os x installed |
| 20:51.05 | nullpuppy | installing gimp |
| 20:52.12 | kergoth | mmm coffee "cooler" from caribou coffee (ala starbucks frappuccino) |
| 20:52.44 | gonkulator | kergoth: so you have moved on from starbucks? |
| 20:52.54 | ChipX86 | yay for closing 11 bugs this week, plus some unfiled bugs, plus adding some new features, plus maintaining the bug list |
| 20:52.54 | kergoth | there isnt one nearby |
| 20:52.55 | kergoth | heh |
| 20:53.00 | kergoth | that i've found, anyway |
| 20:53.47 | gonkulator | that is indeed a good week |
| 20:53.55 | kergoth | ChipX86, nice |
| 20:55.10 | kergoth | this week i learned about 802.1q, netfilter internals and connection tracking, policy routing, SIP/SDP/RTP/IAX (thanks file), set up svn, set up bugzilla, set up a mediawiki, wiped and reinstalled a few machines, got familiar with the product line, etc :) |
| 20:55.44 | kergoth | oh, and learned about QOS/tc |
| 20:55.55 | file[laptop] | hrm Virtual PC supports USB... that's good |
| 20:55.59 | file[laptop] | and you're welcome kergoth |
| 20:56.01 | kergoth | :) |
| 20:56.20 | nullpuppy | damn, gimp takes a while to load :) |
| 20:56.21 | kergoth | i should play around with SEP just to get a handle on it |
| 20:56.44 | gonkulator | worthless in geek stuff at least |
| 20:57.12 | kergoth | file[laptop], you know of any good network diagrams showing where asterisk and sip proxies and sip user agents fit into a typical network environment, end to end? |
| 20:57.28 | file[laptop] | kergoth: not really |
| 20:57.32 | kergoth | hm, k |
| 20:57.43 | file[laptop] | I see it in my head mannnn |
| 20:57.52 | kergoth | draw me a diagram! |
| 20:57.53 | kergoth | :P |
| 20:57.56 | nullpuppy | ok then... gimp crashed.. |
| 20:58.05 | nullpuppy | my week was pretty worthless too... |
| 20:58.23 | nullpuppy | although... i did brew beer, so I guess it wasn't too bad :) |
| 20:58.28 | kergoth | hehe |
| 20:58.30 | kergoth | yay beer |
| 20:59.52 | kergoth | hmm, maybe i should use mantis instead of bugzilla at work, would be easier from a usability standpoint for the people submitting bugs |
| 21:00.41 | nullpuppy | i should setup something like bugzilla or mantis locally myself... need something to keep track of bugs, todo stuff, etc |
| 21:01.18 | nullpuppy | might do that tonight.. (would think about it now, but I gotta leave for work in about 45 minutes) |
| 21:02.38 | file | Mantis is so... so... ugly |
| 21:02.49 | nullpuppy | hehe |
| 21:03.22 | pagefault | hehe |
| 21:03.42 | kergoth | personally i like 'rt', but its perl |
| 21:03.47 | pagefault | well I didn't go out to get food |
| 21:03.49 | nullpuppy | rt? |
| 21:03.53 | pagefault | but I had some fresh shrimp and cooked those up |
| 21:03.56 | pagefault | good stuff |
| 21:04.17 | kergoth | nullpuppy, http://www.bestpractical.com/rt/screenshots/3.0/ |
| 21:04.42 | kergoth | powerful like bugzilla, can set complex relationships amongst tickets, parent/child, etc for release goals |
| 21:04.47 | kergoth | but a bit easier to use imho |
| 21:04.59 | pagefault | whats up |
| 21:05.07 | pagefault | I just need to get to level 60 |
| 21:05.09 | pagefault | but it's taking so long :( |
| 21:05.15 | kergoth | i need to hit 50 |
| 21:05.18 | kergoth | i want to do maraudon |
| 21:05.27 | nullpuppy | hmm, interestint |
| 21:05.58 | kergoth | OE used rt for a while |
| 21:06.03 | kergoth | but for some reason people didnt like it |
| 21:06.16 | kergoth | so we went to bugzilla (blech) |
| 21:06.58 | nullpuppy | hmm, doesn't look too bad, could use some UI work though |
| 21:07.25 | kergoth | and rt is perl. |
| 21:07.26 | kergoth | icky. |
| 21:07.32 | kergoth | it has literally like 55 perl module deps |
| 21:07.39 | kergoth | pray to god your distro has apt |
| 21:07.41 | nullpuppy | ouch |
| 21:07.47 | nullpuppy | i don't mind perl, but damn :) |
| 21:08.15 | ChipX86 | well, apt or cpan |
| 21:08.24 | ChipX86 | and it has cpan, because that's just perl |
| 21:08.33 | nullpuppy | yeah |
| 21:08.45 | ChipX86 | I have a hunch I'm not going into work today |
| 21:08.45 | nullpuppy | thats just a lot of freaking deps though :) |
| 21:08.50 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 21:08.53 | nullpuppy | not that they're hard to satisfy.. just lots |
| 21:08.57 | kergoth | damnit, this kernel i built isnt giving me serial output :( |
| 21:08.57 | ChipX86 | geeze it's cold |
| 21:09.16 | ChipX86 | there's a thread on one of our listservs at work on making a flame thrower |
| 21:09.25 | nullpuppy | haha, nice |
| 21:09.32 | nullpuppy | i need some cool mac software to play with |
| 21:10.48 | gonkulator | we have a large expanse of land with a big lake that would be good to launch taters into |
| 21:12.50 | kergoth | we're using gigabit at my house. really nice |
| 21:13.07 | nullpuppy | i need the damn cd! |
| 21:13.42 | ChipX86 | running VMs over my 100Mbit network is no fun |
| 21:13.50 | nullpuppy | hehe |
| 21:14.18 | ChipX86 | I want to keep the VMs on the raid array, but maybe it's just not worth it |
| 21:17.33 | ChipX86 | think I'll move them back to athena on fishy |
| 21:28.53 | numist | woo gorillaz |
| 21:29.06 | ChipX86 | I want to play music :( |
| 21:29.11 | kergoth | you cant? |
| 21:29.13 | ChipX86 | but I wno't be able to hear the DHL guy |
| 21:29.16 | kergoth | ah |
| 21:29.23 | ChipX86 | I need to get a camera out there |
| 21:29.23 | file | I'm waiting for something to transcode... yay |
| 21:29.29 | file | I love allofmp3 |
| 21:29.30 | kergoth | thats it, you need to hook up your doorbell to a home automation system |
| 21:29.37 | file | he needs to hook it up to Asterisk |
| 21:29.40 | ChipX86 | yep |
| 21:29.41 | kergoth | hehe |
| 21:29.51 | kergoth | thatd be cool. it calls you to tell you someone's at the door |
| 21:29.53 | ChipX86 | Ross Burton became interested in galago :) |
| 21:30.01 | file | I had it rigged up on my MythTV box so that when someone called, it popped up on my TV |
| 21:30.05 | kergoth | hah |
| 21:30.07 | kergoth | cool |
| 21:30.48 | file | kergoth: so are you going to do anything nuts with Asterisk? |
| 21:31.23 | kergoth | dunno yet |
| 21:31.40 | kergoth | dont have any landlines, so.. |
| 21:31.41 | kergoth | hmm |
| 21:32.42 | file | you can pay like $12/mth and get a phone number in your area with unlimited service |
| 21:32.46 | kergoth | hehe, itd be cool to set it up so when my cell is paired with bluetooth, asterisk can use it |
| 21:32.54 | file | chan_bluetooth |
| 21:33.11 | kergoth | that exists? :) |
| 21:33.58 | kergoth | $12 you say.. through whom? |
| 21:34.06 | file | http://connect.voicepulse.com/ |
| 21:34.07 | file | and yes it exists |
| 21:34.12 | kergoth | nifty |
| 21:34.21 | file | and someone just called answering an ad... that we didn't put out... uh... yeah |
| 21:34.26 | kergoth | hehe |
| 21:35.38 | file | ah it's $11/mth |
| 21:36.01 | kergoth | hmm, outbound calls to the US are per minute.. |
| 21:36.17 | file | you can send 'em for free through my box |
| 21:36.39 | file | a toll-free might be cheaper for you, depending if how many calls you got ;) |
| 21:36.54 | file | because at $11/mth... you could have 550 minutes for a toll-free number |
| 21:41.48 | ChipX86 | 550 minutes is like a week of talking |
| 21:41.52 | ChipX86 | no, not even that |
| 21:41.58 | ChipX86 | like 4 days |
| 21:42.01 | kergoth | hehe |
| 21:42.02 | ChipX86 | 3 maybe |
| 21:42.08 | ChipX86 | yeah, about 3 |
| 21:42.11 | kergoth | i only have like 300-400 day minutes on my cell |
| 21:42.11 | file | ChipX86: you talk too much |
| 21:42.17 | kergoth | thank god for the free nights & weekends |
| 21:42.21 | ChipX86 | kergoth: yeah really |
| 21:42.41 | ChipX86 | file: I talk to Jamie for a couple hours a night, and I tend to call home every day or so to talk to my brothers and sister and my parents |
| 21:43.00 | numist | yay its my anniversary today |
| 21:43.05 | ChipX86 | happy anniversary! |
| 21:43.09 | numist | :D |
| 21:43.11 | ChipX86 | of what? |
| 21:43.11 | kergoth | given the free nights & weekends, i'm tempted to play with chan_bluetooth to hook my cell up to asterisk around then, have it direct the calls to my pc while i'm at home |
| 21:43.16 | numist | 3 years with carrie |
| 21:43.21 | ChipX86 | nice |
| 21:43.22 | kergoth | congrats |
| 21:43.27 | numist | dankoo |
| 21:43.44 | numist | she's off to santa rosa right now for wine country |
| 21:43.50 | numist | the horse show we met at 3 years ago... hah |
| 21:43.51 | kergoth | heh, my gf atm lives in another state. she's coming out here on the 26th of this month and staying till the 5th |
| 21:43.56 | kergoth | which will be nice |
| 21:43.59 | numist | nice |
| 21:44.07 | nullpuppy | numist: congrats man |
| 21:44.10 | numist | yeah, carrie and I live on opposite ends of a really long state |
| 21:44.12 | nullpuppy | mmm, machinae supremacy |
| 21:44.15 | kergoth | hrm, i should ask my boss for some time off |
| 21:44.17 | kergoth | heh |
| 21:44.40 | ChipX86 | http://www.lyricsbox.com/him-lyrics-join-me-in-death-srbt2wn.html |
| 21:44.42 | ChipX86 | great son |
| 21:44.42 | ChipX86 | g |
| 21:45.06 | kergoth | *gasp* |
| 21:45.11 | kergoth | theres no snake river conspiracy on my iriver |
| 21:45.20 | ChipX86 | oh no! |
| 21:46.04 | Veight | heh |
| 21:46.11 | Veight | kergoth: i think hyperion is down |
| 21:46.18 | ChipX86 | welcome to 3 hours ago |
| 21:46.30 | Veight | did you ever restart back up ventrilo or the teamspeak server? |
| 21:46.48 | kergoth | Veight, hyperion is down |
| 21:46.57 | kergoth | Veight, have my dad switch to its video and hit a key on its keyboard |
| 21:47.18 | nullpuppy | ok, time to head to work.. |
| 21:47.29 | kergoth | heh |
| 21:47.31 | kergoth | what hours do you work? |
| 21:47.33 | Veight | i think i know why |
| 21:47.37 | nullpuppy | 3-8 today |
| 21:47.43 | kergoth | Veight, you guys screw up the network? :P |
| 21:47.47 | Veight | lol no |
| 21:47.47 | kergoth | nullpuppy, ah |
| 21:48.01 | Veight | kergoth, there was a power surge today i think anyway |
| 21:48.15 | ChipX86 | kergoth: they probably chewed through the wire. You need to set some traps |
| 21:48.25 | kergoth | haha, good idea |
| 21:48.31 | file | ChipX86: I don't think kergoth has that bad of luck |
| 21:49.25 | gonkulator | yay for artwork being cool |
| 21:49.34 | kergoth | god i hate lilo |
| 21:51.29 | file | kergoth: You are the currently the only person in this conference. |
| 21:51.36 | file | bleh you are currently |
| 21:51.36 | Veight | kergoth, check to see if you can get into hyperion |
| 21:51.48 | kergoth | Veight, nope |
| 21:51.58 | kergoth | not responding to pings |
| 21:52.06 | kergoth | you can check yourself. ping 192.168.1.191 |
| 21:52.15 | Veight | kergoth, pick some soda up on your way home |
| 21:52.15 | kergoth | oh, i'm an idiot |
| 21:52.19 | kergoth | the wrt doesnt respond to pings :) |
| 21:52.21 | kergoth | i'm on hyperion |
| 21:52.23 | kergoth | what was up? |
| 21:52.31 | kergoth | k |
| 21:52.41 | file | Veight isn't the boss of you! |
| 21:52.43 | file | much. |
| 21:52.45 | Veight | lol |
| 21:53.02 | file | yay zaptel is built on my second devel box |
| 21:53.13 | Veight | kergoth, hows your new system? |
| 21:53.32 | kergoth | Veight, athlon xp 2800+, 80gb. decent. only 256 megs of ram though :( |
| 21:54.19 | kergoth | Veight, stole a 19" viewsonic lcd from another box |
| 21:55.03 | kergoth | erm |
| 21:55.04 | kergoth | crt |
| 21:55.06 | kergoth | heh |
| 21:55.08 | file | kergoth: you should steal RAM too |
| 21:55.10 | kergoth | damn fingers |
| 21:55.11 | kergoth | i should |
| 21:55.15 | file | er "borrow" |
| 21:57.07 | file | wow, CPU on quark is being eaten up so badly |
| 21:57.17 | file | er wait no... memory |
| 21:57.23 | file | depmod -a is at 52.3% |
| 21:57.25 | file | and increasing |
| 21:57.26 | kergoth | i named my new box 'odin' |
| 21:57.43 | file | something is definitely wrong... |
| 21:59.24 | file | 62% |
| 22:01.13 | gonkulator | slimspace: I'm on my way |
| 22:01.20 | slimspace | right-o, I'm ready |
| 22:02.30 | kergoth | http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B0002ZSFIW/104-2320421-7971126 |
| 22:03.17 | ChipX86 | I'm on my laptop! |
| 22:03.21 | numist | yay! |
| 22:03.27 | kergoth | yay |
| 22:03.42 | ChipX86 | they didn't replace the screen as requested. apparently they didn't notice a problem.. |
| 22:03.46 | ChipX86 | grr |
| 22:03.51 | ChipX86 | and they ran a virus scan :P |
| 22:03.56 | numist | psh |
| 22:03.58 | ChipX86 | no harddrive, but they ran a virus scan. |
| 22:04.06 | kergoth | that helps |
| 22:04.09 | ChipX86 | oh yes. |
| 22:04.11 | ChipX86 | massively |
| 22:04.21 | numist | at least you know you dont have any viruses in.... your bios |
| 22:04.23 | file | call and complain! wildly! |
| 22:04.45 | ChipX86 | numist: hah |
| 22:05.13 | kergoth | if a virus manages to get into my bios without corrupting it, it deserves to win |
| 22:05.21 | numist | agreed |
| 22:05.29 | ChipX86 | yep |
| 22:06.48 | scanlime | aha |
| 22:07.03 | ChipX86 | something just feels... odd about this laptop |
| 22:07.07 | ChipX86 | maybe I'm not used to it anymore |
| 22:07.23 | scanlime | yay, your laptop is back |
| 22:07.26 | ChipX86 | yay! |
| 22:07.41 | ChipX86 | not coming in for games though. my time is better spent fixing these beta2 bugs |
| 22:08.12 | scanlime | which games? I should probably get these patches in a stable state again, I've already had enough fun at work today :) |
| 22:08.13 | slimspace | scanlime: poke |
| 22:08.21 | scanlime | whatwaht? |
| 22:08.23 | ChipX86 | mario kart and smash bros and such |
| 22:08.37 | slimspace | scanlime: don't suppose I could get you to update the dns record for boulder.navi.cx? |
| 22:08.40 | ChipX86 | hmmm imagine if the two were combined... Smash Kart |
| 22:08.49 | scanlime | slimspace: email me |
| 22:09.11 | slimspace | scanlime: k |
| 22:09.22 | scanlime | ChipX86: that's what I was hoping the new mario kard would be like.. you can already punch from the rear player, but it needs more moves that actually do something worthwhile |
| 22:09.29 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 22:09.52 | ChipX86 | noooo |
| 22:09.54 | ChipX86 | I mean, yay! |
| 22:10.07 | scanlime | it would be darn skippy if you could tap into the signal between optical drive and gamecube... |
| 22:10.44 | ChipX86 | all you need is a specialized CD with a cable coming out of it |
| 22:10.45 | slimspace | scanlime: sent |
| 22:10.53 | scanlime | ChipX86: no, you open up the gamecube |
| 22:10.54 | scanlime | :) |
| 22:10.58 | scanlime | but cable cds work |
| 22:11.06 | scanlime | or you need to put an audio tape deck in the gamecube |
| 22:11.13 | ChipX86 | that'd be fun :) |
| 22:11.14 | scanlime | then use one of those tapes with the cable sticking out |
| 22:11.30 | ChipX86 | did you ever see that $1000 or whatever gamecube from (I think) Panasonic? |
| 22:11.37 | scanlime | it would only take about an 18-wheeler full of tapes and 10 years to load a game! |
| 22:11.59 | ChipX86 | ah, $500 |
| 22:12.00 | scanlime | I think i've heard mention of it.. don't really know what the deal is with it though |
| 22:12.10 | ChipX86 | http://www.yoho-games.com/GameCube/Consoles/Panasonic_Q_(JAP_USA__amp;_Multi_DVD_region_modified)/5139/product.aspx |
| 22:12.18 | numist | scanlime: they have solid-state gamecubes where I used to work... theyd work off CF carts instead of minidvds |
| 22:12.48 | ChipX86 | numist: I must ask... why? |
| 22:13.08 | scanlime | numist: sweet |
| 22:13.11 | scanlime | numist: where do you get one? |
| 22:13.20 | numist | ChipX86: we werent going to burn 10 new dvds every day for the testers, so theyd send us their old carts, and every morning we gave them a nightly build |
| 22:13.30 | ChipX86 | hah |
| 22:13.36 | numist | scanlime: I do believe they are for devs only, youd have to steal one |
| 22:13.45 | numist | and theres no optical drive anymore.. they were very hacked |
| 22:13.50 | ChipX86 | ohh I can listen to music now |
| 22:13.52 | scanlime | I need to reverse engineer some DVD-R drive firmware and figure out how to read and burn those little disks |
| 22:13.57 | ChipX86 | yes. |
| 22:14.02 | numist | its not excatly a dvd, iirc |
| 22:14.05 | scanlime | nod |
| 22:14.10 | numist | I can probably get some info on it if you want |
| 22:14.14 | scanlime | :) |
| 22:14.16 | ChipX86 | also, I want my NES to take CF cards |
| 22:14.24 | numist | ChipX86: your on your own there :) |
| 22:14.24 | scanlime | ChipX86: that's easier :) |
| 22:14.35 | ChipX86 | scanlime: cool. Ping me when it's done |
| 22:14.39 | scanlime | ChipX86: look up a list of NES mapper types |
| 22:14.40 | numist | haha |
| 22:15.21 | scanlime | hmm |
| 22:15.25 | scanlime | I should look up bus timing for the NES |
| 22:15.27 | ChipX86 | what I really just need is a little embedded linux system that can run NES, SNES, Arcade, etc. games well enough, in the form factor of a PSP or GBA or something, and have it take CF cards |
| 22:15.32 | scanlime | wonder if it's possible to emulate a cart in software now |
| 22:15.49 | scanlime | ChipX86: they call that a PSP |
| 22:15.57 | scanlime | running an emulator |
| 22:16.11 | ChipX86 | oh right, the PSP can do that now. Hmmmmm..... tempting.. |
| 22:16.18 | scanlime | yeah |
| 22:16.26 | scanlime | next time I get the video game hacking itch I should really check out the PSP |
| 22:16.35 | ChipX86 | :) |
| 22:16.42 | ChipX86 | I think it'd be fun to write games for something like that |
| 22:17.31 | scanlime | indeed |
| 22:17.58 | scanlime | IIRC I was one of the first to play with its sound chip |
| 22:18.10 | scanlime | things were such a mess back then |
| 22:18.14 | ChipX86 | gah. World of Warcraft is not my music player! |
| 22:18.36 | scanlime | it has a modified Z80 processor right.. so there was a (really really buggy) hacked up gcc for it, and about 5 different homemade assemblers |
| 22:19.06 | scanlime | I was fond of some assembler that had a built-in DOS IDE |
| 22:19.14 | scanlime | looked like the old Borland C++ IDE |
| 22:19.18 | scanlime | crazy stuff |
| 22:19.26 | numist | haha |
| 22:19.34 | scanlime | but none of them used quite the same mnemonics :P |
| 22:19.34 | ChipX86 | those were fun days |
| 22:19.50 | Sophie197 | someone sve me from the boring IM guy |
| 22:19.54 | Sophie197 | save* |
| 22:19.54 | scanlime | this assembler also had directives that helped with things like converting graphics to the GB's format |
| 22:19.57 | numist | last year I really wanted a gameboy sp to hack some old pc games onto, but it turned out that the main game I wanted to port -- the author had lost the source completely :( |
| 22:20.22 | ChipX86 | aww |
| 22:20.24 | numist | and then the ds picked up and I gave up pretty easily |
| 22:20.36 | numist | but while I was at treyarch I had the perfect opportunity too :/ |
| 22:20.36 | ChipX86 | the DS still doesn't really interest me |
| 22:20.48 | ChipX86 | I haven't found games that are fun for longer than 15 minutes |
| 22:20.51 | numist | yeah, I dont see the appeal for the ds or the psp |
| 22:20.55 | numist | arr |
| 22:21.30 | scanlime | I have yet to play the psp long enough to decide whetehr I really like the games, but so far it really amazes me |
| 22:21.56 | ChipX86 | I haven't tried the psp ye |
| 22:21.56 | ChipX86 | t |
| 22:22.06 | scanlime | oh, the graphics are unbelievable on that thing |
| 22:22.09 | scanlime | looks almost like a PS2 |
| 22:22.11 | ChipX86 | yeah, that's all I know about it |
| 22:22.25 | scanlime | great I/O options too.. which should make it a nice system to hack on |
| 22:22.31 | scanlime | wi-fi and SD cards are the most interesting |
| 22:22.32 | numist | I loved f-zero on snes |
| 22:22.35 | ChipX86 | some people at vmware use it as a web browser |
| 22:22.54 | numist | ever after that I havent liked consoles all that much... the fzero for n64 confused me and make me woozy |
| 22:23.01 | ChipX86 | hrm, was that the music or the door.. |
| 22:23.18 | numist | my roommate had a psp... it is an incredible piece of hardware, but I dont think I could hack on it |
| 22:23.33 | numist | especially not with the more and more restrictive firmwares they are putting on there |
| 22:23.52 | scanlime | you can get it to load code off of an SD card for goodness sake- you don't even need special hardware to program it |
| 22:23.53 | ChipX86 | the problem wiht making games nowadays is that if the graphics aren't awesome, people get turned off easily |
| 22:23.56 | scanlime | *that*'s hackable |
| 22:24.07 | numist | scanlime: you cant anymore though |
| 22:24.12 | scanlime | the NES you had to modify the console to run your own code on it |
| 22:24.24 | numist | the psp wont run anything other than eboots and games signed in sexticate by sony's rsa keys |
| 22:24.36 | ChipX86 | they'll crack it again |
| 22:24.36 | scanlime | come to think of it, the NES actually had pretty good security.. wonder why you don't see the same scheme in newer consoles |
| 22:24.39 | numist | unless you have firmware 1.50 or less... |
| 22:25.09 | numist | ChipX86: actually, theres more effort in the hacking community to make a firmware downgrader than there is to crack the security... |
| 22:25.15 | ChipX86 | wow |
| 22:25.20 | numist | ChipX86: remember meff? he's got one now and hes really into hacking it |
| 22:25.27 | ChipX86 | hah |
| 22:25.34 | file | achoo. |
| 22:25.38 | numist | bless you |
| 22:26.44 | file | yow'sa this predictive dialer software is picky |
| 22:26.49 | file | likes to deadlock my PBX |
| 22:26.56 | numist | ouch |
| 22:27.26 | scanlime | predictive dialer? |
| 22:28.17 | file | yeah... for calling our customers who don't pay |
| 22:28.18 | file | lol |
| 22:28.31 | file | dump their info into a database, and it'll call them and connect them to an agent |
| 22:29.31 | file | it easily crashes this too |
| 22:29.49 | file | yay assertion failed |
| 22:30.56 | ChipX86 | "Hair should no longer stick through the Helm of Endless Rage." |
| 22:31.00 | ChipX86 | game changelogs are the best |
| 22:31.35 | numist | haha |
| 22:32.33 | scanlime | damn our email server |
| 22:32.38 | ChipX86 | yep |
| 22:33.16 | file | ermph this thing just does not work right |
| 22:33.31 | file | haha segmentation fault |
| 22:39.05 | file | yeah this isn't good at all |
| 22:40.00 | scanlime | at least exit14 is working... |
| 22:40.02 | scanlime | and p4 |
| 22:40.46 | ChipX86 | do you actually use p4, or p5? |
| 22:41.01 | scanlime | mostly q4 actually |
| 22:41.14 | ChipX86 | ok, never even seen q4 |
| 22:41.16 | scanlime | but it depends on what I'm doing |
| 22:41.22 | scanlime | q4 is one of chris' tools, like yap |
| 22:41.28 | numist | hee hee, scanline wrong p4 backwards :P |
| 22:41.30 | scanlime | basically a yap wrapper that's perforce-aware |
| 22:41.42 | scanlime | ? |
| 22:41.43 | ChipX86 | numist: unable to parse |
| 22:42.01 | numist | ChipX86: he wrote the p backwards so it looked like a Q |
| 22:42.07 | numist | oh forget it, it was a lame joke anyway |
| 22:42.10 | ChipX86 | :P |
| 22:42.13 | scanlime | heh |
| 22:42.20 | scanlime | p4 + 1 = p5.. or q4 :P |
| 22:42.41 | scanlime | I need a q5 script now... |
| 22:42.43 | numist | 'p4' + 0x100 is q4 :P |
| 22:43.15 | scanlime | in what language? |
| 22:43.26 | numist | ok, shouldnt have used doubleqhotes |
| 22:43.30 | scanlime | that's a big fat syntax error in C, and in perl you'd just get p40x100 :P |
| 22:43.34 | numist | and I forgot the null, but the idea is there |
| 22:43.37 | scanlime | that's a SIGSEGV |
| 22:43.45 | numist | bah |
| 22:43.46 | ChipX86 | heh |
| 22:44.02 | scanlime | maybe *(uint16*)"p4" = 0x100 |
| 22:44.06 | scanlime | s/=/+/ |
| 22:44.12 | scanlime | but then that's horribly platform dependent |
| 22:44.27 | numist | oh just go with the spirit of it :P |
| 22:44.28 | scanlime | who knows if you can even safely access that with 16-bit reads |
| 22:44.59 | numist | scanlime: actually, I was going to write it to chan in sparc assembly, but decided against since it wouldnt work ayway :P |
| 22:45.02 | scanlime | er actually, that wouldn't run on any platform... |
| 22:45.21 | numist | indeed |
| 22:45.49 | scanlime | damnit |
| 22:46.05 | scanlime | why doesn't ESC -1 C-x TAB in emacs work on non-whitespace? |
| 22:48.52 | ChipX86 | :) |
| 22:48.59 | numist | :D |
| 22:49.03 | ChipX86 | join #emacs on irc01? |
| 22:49.14 | scanlime | hah |
| 22:49.23 | numist | well, I think Ive done all I can today :/ |
| 22:49.25 | ChipX86 | ok, I'm calling IBM again |
| 22:49.26 | scanlime | too late |
| 22:49.37 | ChipX86 | the plastic is all bent up on the right-hand side, and it squeaks |
| 22:49.49 | numist | sock it to them, chippy |
| 22:50.12 | KeyserLaptop | doh. problem with a ibm product? |
| 22:50.30 | KeyserLaptop | they just ordered a t43 for me at work... |
| 22:51.37 | numist | nice, thats a good machine |
| 22:52.21 | KeyserLaptop | 14.1" sxga, 64MB Radeon x300, 1.86GHz Dothan Pentium M (2MB L2 cache), 60GB 7200rpm HD |
| 22:52.50 | KeyserLaptop | 9 cell main battery, and 2nd battery for the drive bay |
| 22:57.46 | scanlime | "Even kids cannot stand life unless they have a drink," reads the product's advertising slogan. |
| 22:57.54 | scanlime | oop |
| 22:57.55 | scanlime | http://www.japantimes.co.jp/cgi-bin/getarticle.pl5?nb20050806a1.htm |
| 23:00.29 | ChipX86 | grr |
| 23:00.38 | ChipX86 | ibm person is suggesting it's my OS |
| 23:00.45 | ChipX86 | (the streaks on the screen that don't happen on other monitors) |
| 23:01.09 | scanlime | haha |
| 23:01.13 | scanlime | it's your screen saver! |
| 23:01.30 | scanlime | damn this |
| 23:01.36 | scanlime | thunderbird won't start and outlook won't die |
| 23:14.23 | ChipX86 | they're sending me a box on Tuesday |
| 23:14.26 | ChipX86 | it'll be gone for another week.. |
| 23:14.31 | scanlime | ugh |
| 23:14.39 | ChipX86 | they said they're going to send it to a higher-priority division where it'll get better treatment |
| 23:14.52 | ChipX86 | which scares the hell out of me, since there shouldn't be that distinction |
| 23:15.06 | scanlime | yeah |
| 23:15.32 | numist | yay newegg, my order will probably ship tonight |
| 23:15.41 | numist | hopefully Ill have usbide adapters monday or tues |
| 23:15.54 | numist | fry's run tonight for other parts I need |
| 23:16.07 | scanlime | hmm |
| 23:16.13 | scanlime | today ends the 4th week for me at vmware |
| 23:16.16 | scanlime | that sure went fast |
| 23:16.17 | ChipX86 | yep |
| 23:16.21 | numist | :) |
| 23:16.29 | ChipX86 | I can't believe it's almost a year for me. That's insane. |
| 23:16.31 | numist | happy month anniversary, scanlime :) |
| 23:16.40 | scanlime | :) |
| 23:16.58 | scanlime | I need to update my blog, it's been alone too long |
| 23:17.10 | scanlime | maybe I'll do so once I finish this hard disk widget, so I can link to pictures |
| 23:17.29 | ChipX86 | the lady on the phone almost sounded surprised at first at me being billed |
| 23:17.33 | numist | whats a good blogging software that I should throw up on numist.net? |
| 23:17.36 | ChipX86 | but didn't say anything |
| 23:17.58 | file[laptop] | ChipX86: isn't there like a warranty? |
| 23:18.06 | ChipX86 | file[laptop]: apparently it doesn't cover spills. |
| 23:18.07 | numist | file[laptop]: not for that kind of damage :x |
| 23:18.18 | file[laptop] | 'tsk 'tsk |
| 23:18.26 | numist | which is weird because IBM > dell, but dell covered my latitude ls when it got drowned |
| 23:18.35 | numist | replaced the whole damn thing |
| 23:18.37 | file[laptop] | Compusmart tried to sell me an extended warranty for my Powerbook |
| 23:18.41 | file[laptop] | covered everything... |
| 23:18.48 | scanlime | this is why I like laptops I can fix myself.. no shipping time, and nobody else to blame when you screw things up ;) |
| 23:18.53 | numist | hehe |
| 23:19.05 | numist | scanlime: so... luggables? |
| 23:19.21 | scanlime | no, anything with replacement parts in stock at your local ebay |
| 23:19.26 | numist | :) |
| 23:19.37 | numist | I used to live a block from my local ebay headquarters in san jose... |
| 23:19.40 | file[laptop] | yay my Powerbook is covered for another 298 more days |
| 23:19.46 | numist | I so wished that shipping was done from there :P |
| 23:19.51 | scanlime | hehe |
| 23:20.10 | numist | large campus theyve got... and very unfriendly to walk-ins |
| 23:20.29 | scanlime | I still need to harass the apple receptionist about my broken laptop |
| 23:20.45 | numist | hehe |
| 23:21.08 | numist | whip out a powerbook 1500 from '97 or so, ask if its still under warranty |
| 23:21.29 | scanlime | yeah |
| 23:21.34 | scanlime | well mine was from 2001... |
| 23:21.38 | scanlime | that's not much better |
| 23:21.53 | file[laptop] | can you keep stacking applecare on top of itself? ie: 3 years later, buy it again? ;) |
| 23:22.08 | numist | Im not sure if you can, file |
| 23:22.13 | numist | scanlime: pb G3? |
| 23:22.22 | file[laptop] | I'm not sure either |
| 23:22.24 | scanlime | ibook dual-usb |
| 23:22.28 | numist | d'oh |
| 23:22.32 | numist | still nice |
| 23:22.40 | scanlime | it was nice until everything broke |
| 23:22.40 | numist | but I miss my old G3.. it was sexy |
| 23:22.43 | numist | hehe |
| 23:22.58 | scanlime | I've had to replace the battery a couple times, keyboard once, LCD cable three times |
| 23:23.04 | scanlime | and now it's out with a bad backlight inverter |
| 23:23.05 | numist | ouch |
| 23:23.08 | file[laptop] | the firewire broke on my Mini, but an OSX reinstall fixed it. that's my experience with Apple problems thus far |
| 23:23.40 | scanlime | what amazes me is how much crap gonkulator has had to deal with, with apple hardware.. and that he still buys it |
| 23:24.02 | numist | what amazes me is the crap you all have to deal with, when Ive never really had problems with apple hardware |
| 23:24.39 | scanlime | some people have good apple karma |
| 23:24.42 | scanlime | we dont' |
| 23:24.51 | file[laptop] | I gave my friend a Dual 450MHz G4 tower... he's had 0 problems, and doesn't touch his P4 anymore |
| 23:24.53 | numist | hehe |
| 23:24.56 | ChipX86 | it's like me with PDAs |
| 23:25.05 | ChipX86 | or watches |
| 23:25.06 | scanlime | hehe |
| 23:25.09 | scanlime | PDAs hate me |
| 23:25.11 | numist | or rio's |
| 23:25.14 | ChipX86 | I'm on my third Casio Databank watch |
| 23:25.15 | file[laptop] | I think the guy who sold me my Powerbook lied |
| 23:25.23 | file[laptop] | I asked if I could buy the warranty stuff later, apparently I can't |
| 23:25.26 | ChipX86 | http://hotmaps.frozenbear.com/ |
| 23:25.29 | numist | d'oh |
| 23:25.30 | ChipX86 | HotOrNot + Google Maps |
| 23:25.42 | ChipX86 | file[laptop]: take it back |
| 23:25.55 | file[laptop] | pfft |
| 23:26.06 | file[laptop] | I'll just e-mail and complain and stuff |
| 23:26.11 | file[laptop] | or flood their phone system |
| 23:26.19 | numist | ... |
| 23:26.23 | numist | with water :D |
| 23:26.56 | ChipX86 | hah this is an awesome idea |
| 23:27.14 | gonkulator | up even |
| 23:27.21 | gonkulator | thanks slimspace |
| 23:27.28 | slimspace | :) |
| 23:28.08 | ChipX86 | hey, wow, people that live like right next to me |
| 23:28.28 | *** join/#tacobeam kergoth (n=kergoth@c-24-118-219-25.hsd1.mn.comcast.net) |
| 23:30.20 | scanlime | ChipX86: hah, that's really cool |
| 23:30.32 | ChipX86 | interesting way to meet people |
| 23:31.15 | *** join/#tacobeam kergoth (n=kergoth@c-24-118-219-25.hsd1.mn.comcast.net) |
| 23:31.36 | kergoth | yay, home |
| 23:31.50 | file[laptop] | yay |
| 23:32.07 | numist | hmm... so when I reapply back to school, what should I go for as a major? Im kinda unhappy with CS classes... didnt really work for me |
| 23:32.15 | file[laptop] | so, like, this person has called me 4 times now asking about our service... I'm on the verge of saying, "just try it! PLEASE JUST TRY IT!" |
| 23:32.18 | scanlime | underwater basket pottery |
| 23:32.28 | numist | actually, we have underwater basket weaving |
| 23:32.34 | scanlime | haha |
| 23:32.34 | file[laptop] | numist: exotic. |
| 23:32.34 | numist | just a class though, not a major |
| 23:32.44 | file[laptop] | major of majoring? |
| 23:32.48 | numist | heh |
| 23:32.53 | numist | Im already a general student of life :P |
| 23:32.55 | scanlime | do you weave them underwater, or are they designed to be underwater baskets? |
| 23:33.02 | KeyserLaptop | underwater pottery? |
| 23:33.02 | file[laptop] | scanlime: maybe both |
| 23:33.06 | KeyserLaptop | like clay? |
| 23:33.12 | numist | scanlime: definitely the former, by extnension the latter could be true |
| 23:33.15 | KeyserLaptop | i dunno how that'd work |
| 23:33.23 | numist | KeyserLaptop: carefully, probably |
| 23:33.28 | file[laptop] | underwater water fall sculpter |
| 23:33.35 | numist | lots of bubbles :) |
| 23:33.37 | KeyserLaptop | sloppilly, no doubt |
| 23:33.51 | numist | anyway.. Im being more than semiserious about that question though |
| 23:34.02 | numist | I suppose the larger question is 'do I go back?' |
| 23:34.09 | file[laptop] | go frontwards |
| 23:34.09 | numist | for now, lets assume that I do |
| 23:34.15 | ChipX86 | hurray for dumb people attempting to do dumb things and thinking they'll be safe just because they have vmware |
| 23:34.27 | numist | hurray |
| 23:34.35 | scanlime | ChipX86: what's this? |
| 23:34.50 | ChipX86 | the guy in #vmware |
| 23:35.39 | file[laptop] | I should join there just for fun |
| 23:35.56 | scanlime | ugh |
| 23:36.35 | numist | ok, so thats a resounding response of "just dont go back" since no one really responded seriously.. |
| 23:37.28 | file[laptop] | numist: I haven't done University-like stuff |
| 23:37.46 | numist | Im not asking for help on my physics homework :PO |
| 23:37.47 | numist | -O |
| 23:38.32 | file[laptop] | or, are you? |
| 23:38.35 | numist | nah |
| 23:38.46 | numist | physics was boring :x |
| 23:39.06 | numist | I did really badly, but it was still boring |
| 23:39.12 | file[laptop] | :D |
| 23:39.33 | file[laptop] | ChipX86: is that guy doing what I think he is? |
| 23:39.48 | file[laptop] | evil |
| 23:39.48 | numist | what do you think he's doing? |
| 23:39.55 | ChipX86 | file[laptop]: probably |
| 23:40.44 | ChipX86 | ah damn, I shouldn't say "we" |
| 23:40.56 | numist | haha |
| 23:41.10 | file[laptop] | how do you crash a partition table? I know you can corrupt it... but crash? |
| 23:41.16 | numist | ?! |
| 23:41.29 | numist | partition tables arent apps... you dont crash them... |
| 23:41.42 | numist | you can crash something all over them, you can make them not work anymore, but not crash... |
| 23:42.26 | *** join/#tacobeam rioter (n=rar@dsl-220-253-76-145.NSW.netspace.net.au) |
| 23:42.58 | KeyserLaptop | how about those viruses that live in a MBR? |
| 23:43.09 | KeyserLaptop | that's almost like code that lives in a partition table |
| 23:43.16 | numist | true |
| 23:43.31 | numist | and they the mbr can be executed, so I suppose you can crash a partition table... kinda |
| 23:43.39 | numist | take some doing though |
| 23:43.51 | gonkulator | ChipX86: I still can't believe you pushed a duck down that waterfall |
| 23:43.54 | gonkulator | that was NOT nice :) |
| 23:44.02 | ChipX86 | it's a wooden duck |
| 23:44.02 | KeyserLaptop | bwahahaha! |
| 23:44.03 | rioter | in real life? |
| 23:44.05 | numist | dd i=/dev/urandom o=/dev/hda // :D |
| 23:44.05 | rioter | :( |
| 23:44.09 | numist | haha |
| 23:44.16 | numist | ChipX86: Im calling PETA on you! |
| 23:44.21 | ChipX86 | wooden duck! |
| 23:44.24 | ChipX86 | scanline can testify |
| 23:44.36 | numist | rioter: Id take it, but I need to make a free cat sign too :( |
| 23:44.45 | numist | my roommate went insane over the cat and added it to my gallery |
| 23:44.57 | numist | which my landlord found and called regarding a $1k pet deposit that we havnt made |
| 23:45.01 | rioter | numist there is 2 dead cats with in about 100 meters of the highway, im putting a free cat sign up, cause i hate cats and im a calous bastard |
| 23:45.10 | numist | rioter: outch |
| 23:45.17 | numist | wow, my spelling sucks today |
| 23:45.31 | rioter | i dont think thats spelling as much as placment of fingers |
| 23:45.33 | file[laptop] | it's Friday, you're excused |
| 23:45.41 | rioter | its saturday! |
| 23:45.42 | numist | rioter: actually, possibly true, I am sitting sidewards |
| 23:45.52 | numist | thanks, file |
| 23:46.10 | numist | botsnack! |
| 23:46.48 | scanlime | ChipX86: at least he listens |
| 23:47.11 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 23:47.27 | *** join/#tacobeam twomillion (n=brian@c-24-9-235-7.hsd1.co.comcast.net) |
| 23:47.44 | gonkulator | hey twomillion |
| 23:47.48 | gonkulator | twomillion is my brother |
| 23:48.14 | twomillion | hi |
| 23:48.20 | KeyserLaptop | howdy |
| 23:48.31 | twomillion | the key is the only way in |
| 23:48.38 | slimspace | I didn't know either, until he and gonkulator ended up at my doorstep a few minutes ago |
| 23:48.52 | gonkulator | heh, he came along for the ride |
| 23:49.01 | ChipX86 | I'm about to upset Peter Shepherd :( |
| 23:50.00 | twomillion | machine king man is a good idea for a navi |
| 23:50.00 | ChipX86 | I have ice cream! |
| 23:50.25 | slimspace | ChipX86: what kinds? |
| 23:50.45 | scanlime | but I can't get it out :( |
| 23:50.52 | twomillion | the rain in spain falls mainly on the grain |
| 23:50.54 | slimspace | scanlime: ^^ |
| 23:51.01 | ChipX86 | slimspace: Cookies & Cream |
| 23:51.08 | slimspace | mmm, my favorite :) |
| 23:51.09 | ChipX86 | hmmm, I want to see Willy Wonka again |
| 23:51.16 | twomillion | anybody want a dead cat |
| 23:51.30 | scanlime | the wonka thing.. not a dead cat |
| 23:51.31 | ChipX86 | twomillion: no thanks, I'm good. |
| 23:52.21 | twomillion | what movie? |
| 23:52.52 | file[laptop] | gonkulator: a brother, that's scary |
| 23:52.59 | gonkulator | any movie with stuff that explodes or has people who talk |
| 23:53.02 | Sophie197 | hello gonkulator's brother |
| 23:53.02 | gonkulator | or people at all... |
| 23:53.07 | twomillion | the three dollors are to charity |
| 23:53.16 | twomillion | just kidding |
| 23:53.19 | gonkulator | its great most of the time |
| 23:53.20 | KeyserLaptop | Sophie197: gonkulator's brother -> twomillion |
| 23:53.31 | numist | ahoy there friend twomillion, brother of gonkulator |
| 23:53.33 | Sophie197 | I figured that :) |
| 23:53.34 | twomillion | 5*6=30 |
| 23:53.49 | kergoth | i miss jbot. |
| 23:53.53 | kergoth | scanlime: you should unsilence jbot |
| 23:54.14 | twomillion | 4+4=8 |
| 23:54.18 | scanlime | kergoth: jbot hasn't been silenced here for a long time |
| 23:54.22 | kergoth | jbot: ping |
| 23:54.23 | jbot | pong |
| 23:54.25 | kergoth | oh |
| 23:54.26 | kergoth | hehe |
| 23:54.27 | gonkulator | ~whaleslap twomillion |
| 23:54.27 | jbot | ACTION slaps twomillion upside and over the head with one freakishly huge killer whale named hugh |
| 23:54.31 | kergoth | yay, hugh |
| 23:54.32 | gonkulator | yep, he works! |
| 23:54.33 | Sophie197 | how old are you twomillion? |
| 23:54.35 | slimspace | ~botsnack |
| 23:54.35 | jbot | :), slimspace |
| 23:54.40 | Sophie197 | out of curiosity |
| 23:54.54 | twomillion | because I like to mention SIMPLE FACT |
| 23:55.06 | kergoth | eh, control your caps |
| 23:55.21 | numist | ~lart gonkulator |
| 23:55.25 | gonkulator | nooooo |
| 23:55.29 | numist | >D |
| 23:55.34 | kergoth | beware the squirrelly wrath |
| 23:55.39 | numist | so thats what lart means |
| 23:55.44 | twomillion | Sophie197: 17 years old why do you want to know |
| 23:55.44 | kergoth | ~lart? |
| 23:55.44 | jbot | from memory, lart is Luser Attitude Re-adjustment Tool |
| 23:55.50 | gonkulator | ~rlart |
| 23:55.52 | numist | kergoth: it was a guess, on my part |
| 23:56.29 | rioter | that was mean |
| 23:56.30 | Sophie197 | you need to punctuate, sweets |
| 23:56.32 | twomillion | sorry for the yell |
| 23:56.49 | gonkulator | heh, twomillion thought that it was just me, slimspace and himself in here |
| 23:56.52 | Sophie197 | I was just curious is all :) |
| 23:56.55 | twomillion | and sorry for any thing else |
| 23:56.55 | gonkulator | didn't realize that there were other people |
| 23:57.03 | rioter | urgh, i called my girlfriend sweetie when i was drunk last night, now shes expecting me to keep it up |
| 23:57.06 | twomillion | yes |
| 23:57.13 | scanlime | rioter: haha |
| 23:57.16 | slimspace | what's wrong with sweetie? |
| 23:57.21 | numist | oh, 27 people or so |
| 23:57.25 | Sophie197 | it's cheesy |
| 23:57.29 | rioter | it makes me feel 'irk' inside |
| 23:57.33 | slimspace | Tess likes it |
| 23:57.34 | gonkulator | yeah, I have him using irssi |
| 23:57.57 | rioter | im just not a showing signs of affection kind of guy |
| 23:57.59 | numist | hey sweet- *fleeeeee* |
| 23:58.00 | twomillion | if 5+5=10 what dose 5+6+ |
| 23:58.13 | Sophie197 | fortunately, it's no something I have to worry about. |
| 23:58.13 | numist | 5+6+ :: syntax error |
| 23:58.13 | ChipX86 | Sophie197: better than being called sweaty |
| 23:58.15 | gonkulator | twomillion: the random facts are gonna have to stop |
| 23:58.16 | Sophie197 | not* |
| 23:58.24 | twomillion | i meant what dose 5+6= |
| 23:58.28 | numist | :) |
| 23:58.36 | Sophie197 | ChipX86: debatable. |
| 23:58.42 | scanlime | twomillion: forty two! |
| 23:58.43 | ChipX86 | cookies! I hvae that too! |
| 23:58.58 | numist | yay more cookies |
| 23:59.14 | gonkulator | indeed |
| 23:59.16 | ChipX86 | scanlime: we should see that movie sometime |
| 23:59.19 | twomillion | fire, water, light, darkness, and nature |
| 23:59.23 | ChipX86 | uh oh |
| 23:59.24 | scanlime | ChipX86: I agree |
| 23:59.27 | ChipX86 | here comes the disappointed e-mail |
| 23:59.37 | gonkulator | cookies are great, unless they are used to track your marketing information |
| 23:59.48 | Sophie197 | it's so confusing in here |
| 23:59.50 | ChipX86 | oh phew, it's not that one |
| 23:59.50 | numist | gonkulator: :P |
| 23:59.56 | ChipX86 | Subject: Ducky go down the hole |
