| 00:00.04 | ChipX86 | and everyone saying that's BS |
| 00:00.08 | pagefault | dreamcast was "128" too |
| 00:00.32 | scanlime | "One of the PlayStation 2's many processors is known as the "128-bit Emotion Engine" but has a 64-bit core; the graphics synthesizer has a 2560-bit DRAM bus." |
| 00:00.40 | scanlime | wow.. I had no idea the memory bus was that wide |
| 00:00.48 | pagefault | too bad it doesn't help it |
| 00:01.15 | pagefault | the DRAM is embedded into the chip |
| 00:01.21 | pagefault | thats how they were able to do it |
| 00:01.31 | scanlime | uhhuh.. I'd hate to see the PCB they would need otherwise |
| 00:01.52 | pagefault | N64 used rambus technology |
| 00:01.53 | scanlime | but it's almost cheating |
| 00:01.53 | pagefault | that was fun |
| 00:02.08 | scanlime | it's like counting every data line used internally in a CPU to access its L1 cache |
| 00:02.30 | scanlime | I drove by rambus yesterday :) |
| 00:02.34 | pagefault | hehe |
| 00:02.46 | pagefault | N64 didn't even go as far as making 24-bit colour |
| 00:02.58 | pagefault | it could only produce 21-bit dithered color |
| 00:03.23 | scanlime | that was still better than any other console at the time by far |
| 00:03.42 | pagefault | yeah thats true |
| 00:03.44 | pagefault | but then dreamcast came out |
| 00:03.50 | scanlime | and it rocked |
| 00:04.10 | scanlime | I'll need to make sure to leave enough ethernet ports in the living room that I can hook it up once I get a TV |
| 00:04.21 | pagefault | ethernet? |
| 00:04.27 | scanlime | for the dreamcast |
| 00:04.31 | pagefault | oh |
| 00:04.34 | pagefault | yeah |
| 00:04.39 | pagefault | network adaptor :) |
| 00:04.43 | scanlime | yes |
| 00:04.53 | scanlime | they're more expensive than the DC itself :( |
| 00:04.57 | pagefault | I know :( |
| 00:05.04 | scanlime | but I have one! |
| 00:05.09 | scanlime | I used it to port picogui to the SH-3 |
| 00:05.12 | pagefault | they did another production run on them after the DC was not being made |
| 00:05.14 | pagefault | but they got bought up fast |
| 00:06.10 | pagefault | it's a fun system to hack on |
| 00:06.17 | scanlime | it is |
| 00:06.20 | scanlime | I love their video chip |
| 00:06.31 | scanlime | I'm kind of sad that their tiled architecture didn't catch on |
| 00:06.48 | pagefault | ST Micro still makes the powervr chipsets |
| 00:06.49 | scanlime | I mean, they could sort entire stacks of polygons in-core then blast them out to the framebuffer with zero overdraw |
| 00:06.52 | scanlime | that rocked |
| 00:07.11 | scanlime | pagefault: yeah, but it hasn't 'caught on' in the sense that people are making them competitive with more popular cards |
| 00:07.12 | pagefault | yeah |
| 00:07.24 | pagefault | they had a Q3A demo for powervr people at one time |
| 00:07.28 | scanlime | powervr is still just an odd and undersupported card |
| 00:07.31 | pagefault | with used insane multi-texturing |
| 00:09.02 | pagefault | you still find them a lot being used in arcade machiens |
| 00:10.34 | pagefault | oh well |
| 00:11.50 | pagefault | wow |
| 00:11.53 | pagefault | new linux ATI drivers |
| 00:11.55 | ChipX86 | woo |
| 00:12.03 | ChipX86 | please tell me there's composite. |
| 00:12.10 | pagefault | reading release notes |
| 00:12.14 | pagefault | but don't hold your breath |
| 00:12.15 | pagefault | heh |
| 00:12.18 | ChipX86 | :( |
| 00:12.30 | pagefault | i'll mail someone at ATI a case of beer if they do it |
| 00:12.32 | scanlime | nvidia... |
| 00:12.47 | ChipX86 | laptop uses ati :( |
| 00:12.56 | scanlime | laptop uses bologna! |
| 00:13.28 | pagefault | well |
| 00:13.31 | pagefault | it's better than nothing |
| 00:13.31 | pagefault | it says |
| 00:13.35 | pagefault | "noticable performance increases" |
| 00:13.39 | Sophie197 | hey ChipX86 |
| 00:13.43 | ChipX86 | hey Sophie |
| 00:13.57 | Sophie197 | it was me who called and hung up on you during your lunch. |
| 00:14.04 | ChipX86 | ah, I wondered :) |
| 00:14.09 | Sophie197 | sorry, I thought it was funny for some reason. |
| 00:14.19 | ChipX86 | actually, I had just gotten in |
| 00:14.23 | ChipX86 | we didn't have lunch yet |
| 00:14.25 | numist | did you call me too? |
| 00:14.31 | numist | someone called me at lunch and hung up :/ |
| 00:14.35 | Sophie197 | didn't have your number |
| 00:14.40 | numist | hrm |
| 00:14.45 | Sophie197 | hmm |
| 00:14.46 | ChipX86 | IBM called me at lunch and charged me $700 |
| 00:14.50 | ChipX86 | I would have prefered your call |
| 00:14.51 | numist | :( |
| 00:15.55 | pagefault | no idea if composite works yet |
| 00:16.00 | ChipX86 | doesn't look like it |
| 00:16.01 | pagefault | it just came out and people are still hacking at them |
| 00:16.07 | pagefault | the release notes always suck though |
| 00:16.11 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 00:16.20 | ChipX86 | I wish you could go back to see previous notes |
| 00:16.25 | ChipX86 | and booo for them not fixing suspend |
| 00:16.28 | pagefault | i'll take the performance fixes though |
| 00:16.43 | pagefault | ah I know how to fix the suspend thing |
| 00:16.50 | pagefault | you have to use vbetool to save the state and restore it |
| 00:16.53 | pagefault | in your script files |
| 00:16.57 | ChipX86 | cool |
| 00:17.00 | ChipX86 | I need to get it working |
| 00:17.10 | pagefault | yeah I have some scripts let me find them |
| 00:17.13 | *** join/#tacobeam kergoth` (n=kergoth@c-24-118-219-25.hsd1.mn.comcast.net) |
| 00:18.35 | pagefault | no |
| 00:18.37 | pagefault | windows just sucks |
| 00:18.58 | pagefault | I went through hell trying to write a keyboard driver for it |
| 00:19.38 | pagefault | you have to wait on a bunch of crap to happen before you can even talk to the hardware |
| 00:19.56 | scanlime | eh.. that's true of any OS |
| 00:20.06 | ChipX86 | not my OS! |
| 00:20.10 | ChipX86 | but mine sucked |
| 00:20.16 | pagefault | well it just seems like in linux it's much more straightforward |
| 00:20.33 | scanlime | well, I guess on a real-mode OS you can just talk to the hardware whenever :) |
| 00:20.40 | ChipX86 | yep |
| 00:21.33 | pagefault | World of Warcraft: Display corruption is noticed when switching between the game and the Windows desktop, when the desktop is set to 1280x1024 and the graphic preferences is set to Optimal Quality. Further details can be found in topic number 737-19785 |
| 00:21.36 | pagefault | I am not installing 5.8 |
| 00:21.47 | ChipX86 | heh |
| 00:22.23 | pagefault | but how can you have bugs in a game like WoW |
| 00:22.53 | ChipX86 | yeah, with millions of players |
| 00:23.08 | pagefault | oh yay they fixed a bug in Quake 3 |
| 00:23.15 | pagefault | I was really concerned about that one |
| 00:23.19 | pagefault | not |
| 00:23.47 | scanlime | hahaha |
| 00:23.59 | scanlime | some web site that supposedly had kernel debugging information for windows... |
| 00:24.12 | scanlime | linked to a site about the mathematica kernel |
| 00:24.22 | scanlime | high quality web site here |
| 00:25.45 | kergoth` | Package fakeroot is not available, but is referred to by another package. |
| 00:25.45 | kergoth` | This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or |
| 00:25.45 | kergoth` | is only available from another source |
| 00:25.45 | kergoth` | E: Package fakeroot has no installation candidate |
| 00:25.47 | kergoth` | ! |
| 00:25.56 | ChipX86 | it's in a different package now |
| 00:26.14 | scanlime | http://www.catch22.net/tuts/vmware.asp |
| 00:26.23 | scanlime | nice article on using vmware to debug the windows kernel |
| 00:26.28 | scanlime | not too helpful for debugging vmware itself |
| 00:26.29 | kergoth` | sick |
| 00:26.31 | ChipX86 | heh |
| 00:26.32 | kergoth` | bleh |
| 00:26.51 | pagefault | yeah vmware is great for kernel programming |
| 00:26.57 | ChipX86 | kergoth`: no no no |
| 00:27.04 | kergoth` | breezy has like 5 new packages :P |
| 00:27.08 | ChipX86 | Danger, Will Robinson. Danger! |
| 00:27.08 | kergoth` | one of which i need |
| 00:27.10 | kergoth` | hehe |
| 00:27.17 | ChipX86 | good luck using X again |
| 00:27.21 | pagefault | breezy like a fart in the wind |
| 00:27.25 | kergoth` | its hyperion |
| 00:27.26 | kergoth` | headless box |
| 00:27.30 | kergoth` | no need for X :) |
| 00:27.31 | ChipX86 | oh |
| 00:27.33 | ChipX86 | you *might* be okay then |
| 00:27.37 | ChipX86 | but sometimes it melts faces |
| 00:27.39 | ChipX86 | er, computers |
| 00:27.42 | pagefault | you are nuts to be using breezy |
| 00:27.44 | pagefault | :) |
| 00:27.45 | kergoth` | all it upgraded was perl, python, and svk |
| 00:27.49 | kergoth` | which is fine with me |
| 00:27.56 | kergoth` | since i need a new svk |
| 00:28.05 | ChipX86 | you should try hoary-backports first |
| 00:28.21 | pagefault | yeah |
| 00:28.26 | pagefault | I got gcc out of there |
| 00:28.27 | pagefault | thats all I wanted |
| 00:29.03 | kergoth` | i want my fakeroot, damnit |
| 00:29.05 | kergoth` | bitches |
| 00:29.14 | pagefault | hehe |
| 00:29.19 | pagefault | no fakeroot in hoary? |
| 00:29.22 | pagefault | I could have swore I used it |
| 00:29.46 | ChipX86 | it's there, just in a different package |
| 00:29.50 | pagefault | ah |
| 00:29.54 | pagefault | hmm |
| 00:30.01 | pagefault | faces will melt |
| 00:30.37 | pagefault | heh |
| 00:30.39 | pagefault | I tried the new VPC today |
| 00:30.45 | pagefault | what a piece of crap that is |
| 00:30.46 | ChipX86 | fun-list has been so quiet today |
| 00:30.56 | kergoth` | gotta love the chorus to this song |
| 00:31.02 | kergoth` | "Girl you know i love you, but now you gotta die." |
| 00:31.14 | pagefault | can't even boot windows vista |
| 00:31.18 | pagefault | and this is a microsoft product |
| 00:31.21 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 00:32.10 | numist | hehe |
| 00:32.38 | kergoth` | E: Package fakeroot has no installation candidate |
| 00:32.42 | pagefault | :/ |
| 00:32.46 | kergoth` | ~/svk-1.02$ auto-apt search fakeroot|awk '{print $2}'|sort -u |
| 00:32.46 | kergoth` | utils/fakeroot |
| 00:32.55 | kergoth` | /cry |
| 00:33.07 | pagefault | I wonder how ubuntu package people are supposed to make packages |
| 00:33.14 | kergoth` | hehe |
| 00:33.19 | kergoth` | as root! |
| 00:33.20 | kergoth` | obviously |
| 00:33.35 | pagefault | that must be fun |
| 00:33.58 | kergoth` | fun like crosscompiling things for arm as root |
| 00:34.05 | kergoth` | "oops, did i just replace my libc.so with an arm binary?" |
| 00:34.07 | pagefault | haha |
| 00:34.27 | pagefault | use a VM? |
| 00:34.31 | pagefault | and hope it works |
| 00:34.59 | pagefault | I mean you will run into ths same problem but you won't mess up your system |
| 00:35.59 | kergoth` | E: Package debhelper has no installation candidate |
| 00:36.01 | kergoth` | ! |
| 00:36.10 | pagefault | I love that |
| 00:36.21 | pagefault | or when it's referenced from another package |
| 00:36.24 | pagefault | but you can't install it directly |
| 00:36.51 | ChipX86 | kergoth`: it's in my package list |
| 00:37.07 | kergoth` | main and restricted hoary updates, hoary universe, hoary security (main, restricted), secuurity universe, hoary multiverse, hoary backports, hoary extras |
| 00:37.09 | kergoth` | all enabled |
| 00:37.10 | kergoth` | hmm |
| 00:37.12 | ChipX86 | fakeroot too |
| 00:37.54 | pagefault | hah |
| 00:37.59 | pagefault | I love vmware |
| 00:38.06 | pagefault | I still have a half completed 2003 server installation |
| 00:38.08 | kergoth` | poor hyperion :( |
| 00:38.13 | ChipX86 | kergoth`: you did an apt-get update? :) |
| 00:38.17 | scanlime | woo, NT kernel debug messages |
| 00:38.19 | kergoth` | multiple times |
| 00:38.21 | kergoth` | bleh |
| 00:38.25 | ChipX86 | hmm well, it's in mine |
| 00:38.35 | numist | yay dist upgrade |
| 00:38.36 | scanlime | it's like dmesg, but it requires a reboot to enable and a debugger to view |
| 00:38.47 | pagefault | haha |
| 00:38.52 | ChipX86 | heh |
| 00:39.00 | pagefault | what in windows doesn't require a reboot? |
| 00:39.22 | kergoth` | changing your ip, but htat really doesnt count, since you used to have to |
| 00:39.23 | scanlime | lots of things these days |
| 00:39.33 | pagefault | I can't find much |
| 00:39.37 | pagefault | even games require a reboot |
| 00:39.42 | scanlime | eh, they tell you to reboot |
| 00:39.43 | kergoth` | no, games tell you to reboot |
| 00:39.47 | kergoth` | heh |
| 00:39.48 | scanlime | but it usually isn't necessary |
| 00:39.55 | ChipX86 | I once ran an install program that produced only a text file |
| 00:39.56 | ChipX86 | it told me to reboot |
| 00:39.57 | pagefault | well telling me reboot and needing to reboot is almost the same thing |
| 00:39.59 | ChipX86 | it's just default on the installers |
| 00:40.04 | kergoth` | pagefault: except not at all |
| 00:40.04 | pagefault | they shouldn't tell you reboot if you don't have to |
| 00:40.07 | ChipX86 | the installers aren't that intelligent about it |
| 00:40.21 | scanlime | installer authors are lazy and users are used to it |
| 00:40.55 | scanlime | bleh, vmx86 is spamming the heck out of my kernel logs |
| 00:41.12 | pagefault | ah well |
| 00:42.01 | scanlime | heh |
| 00:42.08 | scanlime | windows' kernel logs aren't line buffered |
| 00:42.11 | pagefault | is vmware going to keep letting me get evaluation licences or something? |
| 00:42.15 | scanlime | sometimes it cuts off in the middle of a DbgPrint() |
| 00:42.15 | pagefault | I think this is the 3rd time I have done it |
| 00:42.42 | kergoth` | GAH |
| 00:42.48 | kergoth` | my ubuntu machine has gone insane |
| 00:43.05 | kergoth` | :( |
| 00:43.13 | pagefault | :( |
| 00:43.15 | ChipX86 | ? |
| 00:44.21 | pagefault | I am going to get vmware when I get back to class next month anyway |
| 00:44.24 | kergoth` | whew, all better |
| 00:44.26 | pagefault | I found out I can get a student license for it |
| 00:44.56 | ChipX86 | scanlime: what time are we doing sushi? |
| 00:45.10 | scanlime | hm. 7? |
| 00:45.12 | ChipX86 | ok |
| 00:45.43 | scanlime | turns out chris didn't get it until today because my script was munging the mail headers in a way that imap is fine with but mutt isn't :( |
| 00:45.54 | ChipX86 | ughh |
| 00:46.24 | scanlime | I checked in my really trivial one :) but I imagine he'll want to take a close look at the rest of the code |
| 00:46.38 | scanlime | about a 3000 line diff, 1/3 of which is string parsing! |
| 00:46.48 | kergoth` | fun fun |
| 00:47.10 | ChipX86 | we shoudl write the codebase in ruby |
| 00:47.34 | scanlime | a full 1150 lines to convert back and forth between our internal representation of USB devices and strings... |
| 00:47.38 | kergoth` | ruby's syntax reminds me of lua, though maybe that should be the other way around |
| 00:49.45 | scanlime | wow |
| 00:50.01 | scanlime | windows supports local kenrel debugging, plus remote debugging over RS-232, firewire, or USB. |
| 00:50.32 | numist | whoa, nice |
| 00:50.35 | scanlime | but you need a special cable for the USB debugging, and they don't mention how you get one |
| 00:50.44 | numist | psh, just use serial then |
| 00:51.08 | scanlime | local debug should be fine for this.. but I could always set up a serial link between my windows box and a windows VM on my linux box :) |
| 00:51.20 | ChipX86 | mmm, my third gabumble jumble |
| 00:51.25 | ChipX86 | I don't remember how to spell it |
| 00:51.28 | ChipX86 | er |
| 00:51.31 | ChipX86 | third bowl of it. 9th one |
| 00:51.45 | scanlime | hehe |
| 00:51.54 | scanlime | going to want some more digestion time before sushiing? |
| 00:52.03 | ChipX86 | nah, I'll be fine |
| 00:52.06 | ChipX86 | just needed to get something |
| 00:52.14 | ChipX86 | the other ones were during the meeting |
| 00:52.58 | pagefault | wow |
| 00:53.00 | pagefault | easynews rolls over gigs now |
| 00:53.04 | pagefault | 50gb of usenet |
| 00:53.28 | kergoth` | hehe |
| 00:53.34 | scanlime | ChipX86: hehe. That TCP_NODELAY thing brought back fond memories of debugging picogui and inputpipe |
| 00:53.37 | kergoth` | my dad has a giganews unlimited account |
| 00:53.39 | kergoth` | good stuff |
| 00:53.42 | ChipX86 | :) |
| 00:53.44 | pagefault | yeah I love usenet :) |
| 00:55.03 | numist | scanlime: or you could just cat the COM port on your linux box :P |
| 00:55.18 | pagefault | hmm |
| 00:55.22 | pagefault | hmm |
| 00:55.28 | scanlime | numist: you think it's just text? |
| 00:55.29 | pagefault | anyone seen wedding crashers? |
| 00:55.38 | ChipX86 | nope |
| 00:55.40 | numist | scanlime: dunno, worth a shot.. |
| 00:55.48 | numist | pagefault: heard it was good, never saw |
| 00:55.52 | ChipX86 | scanlime: it should be XML| |
| 00:55.53 | pagefault | I heard it was good, was wondering if it's worth downloading |
| 00:56.02 | scanlime | numist: it probably works much like a gdb stub |
| 00:56.06 | numist | one of our test machines sends and recieved ascii over its seral link |
| 00:56.14 | pagefault | hmm |
| 00:56.15 | numist | its a order confirmation board |
| 00:56.19 | pagefault | might as well add it to the queue |
| 00:56.32 | scanlime | wow, ascii over a serial link.. I'll have to call a press conference |
| 00:56.38 | numist | :P |
| 00:56.59 | numist | psh |
| 00:57.02 | pagefault | it's probably news to fox news |
| 00:57.07 | scanlime | next you'll tell me it used a 16550 UART and all-uppercase |
| 00:57.09 | numist | or CNN |
| 00:57.11 | ChipX86 | I'm an idiot. |
| 00:57.20 | numist | nah, it used mixed upper and lwoercase opcodes :P |
| 00:57.26 | numist | ChipX86: ?? |
| 00:58.11 | ChipX86 | "Huh, these all have the same coordinates, which are negative, and it's not rendering. Maybe if I try this and that..." not even thinking about the "they're all the same" thing |
| 00:58.21 | ChipX86 | they're local to the group they're in! I need to convert to world coords. ugh |
| 00:58.26 | numist | hehehe |
| 00:58.29 | numist | oops |
| 00:58.44 | pagefault | man |
| 00:58.51 | pagefault | I will never understand why people feel they need to RAR up mpg files |
| 00:59.06 | ChipX86 | heh |
| 00:59.11 | kergoth` | to split it cleanly and handle errors |
| 00:59.16 | pagefault | pfft |
| 00:59.21 | pagefault | thats what a SFV file is for |
| 00:59.21 | ChipX86 | par! |
| 00:59.22 | kergoth` | not everyone has cable, splitting is necessary |
| 00:59.26 | scanlime | that's why dd and md5sum is for |
| 00:59.26 | kergoth` | yes, par/par2 |
| 00:59.45 | ChipX86 | pfft, dd |
| 00:59.54 | ChipX86 | real men use cat and control-c real fast |
| 01:00.06 | pagefault | scroll lock is your friend |
| 01:00.37 | pagefault | it locks the screen from scrolling |
| 01:00.42 | gonkulator | oh |
| 01:00.43 | numist | lol @ chiipy |
| 01:00.52 | pagefault | it doesn't do anything in DOS though |
| 01:00.58 | scanlime | ChipX86: hehe |
| 01:00.59 | gonkulator | that explains why I don't have a scroll lock on my iBook |
| 01:01.06 | ChipX86 | they're still all the same. Gah. |
| 01:01.18 | ChipX86 | ooh, Weird Al - I Remember Larry |
| 01:01.21 | pagefault | I don't know what pause is for though |
| 01:01.34 | pagefault | it's the same as break |
| 01:02.02 | pagefault | lots of stuff left over from the terminal days |
| 01:02.27 | numist | I still remember larry, no matter how hard I try |
| 01:02.45 | pagefault | poodle hat |
| 01:03.46 | ChipX86 | Say, do you remember when I broke in Larry's house late at night and tied his mouth with a rag? Then I dragged him by his ankles to the middle of the forest and stuffed him in a big plastic bag? |
| 01:03.56 | kergoth` | hehe |
| 01:04.56 | numist | :D |
| 01:05.08 | pagefault | 15 TB of usenet and nothing I can find interests me enough to download |
| 01:05.13 | kergoth` | hehe |
| 01:05.19 | gonkulator | numist: that time he put Ben Gay in my jock strap, boy he really got me good that time |
| 01:05.21 | kergoth` | grab some music videos |
| 01:05.28 | kergoth` | or prereleases of music albums before they hit ubernet |
| 01:05.30 | numist | lol |
| 01:05.33 | kergoth` | thats what i usually use mine for |
| 01:05.37 | pagefault | hmm |
| 01:05.41 | pagefault | new music isn't that great though |
| 01:05.49 | kergoth` | some of it is |
| 01:05.49 | kergoth` | heh |
| 01:05.52 | ChipX86 | gtk_paint_focus needs to be able to work on a gdkdrawable :/ |
| 01:05.52 | numist | videos++ |
| 01:05.56 | gonkulator | pagefault: that means you're gettin golder |
| 01:06.02 | numist | kergoth`: do you have videos on your /srv/share? |
| 01:06.05 | pagefault | all these teens and their rap metal |
| 01:06.37 | pagefault | maybe i'll get some FLAC |
| 01:06.42 | gonkulator | s/golder/older/ |
| 01:06.55 | pagefault | I wish my mp3 player could play them |
| 01:07.21 | kergoth` | numist: all my video bits are on /srv/share2 |
| 01:07.26 | kergoth` | numist: allong with the pending audio |
| 01:07.29 | numist | excellent |
| 01:07.30 | numist | :D |
| 01:07.39 | kergoth` | <kergoth`> okay, so if i mirror an upstream svk depot local in mine, i can in fact branch into and out of there happily with no merge data lost, right? so i can have an upstream svn repo, and all the devs using svk, and it should all Just Work(tm)? |
| 01:07.40 | kergoth` | <clkao> *nod* |
| 01:07.41 | kergoth` | :D |
| 01:07.54 | pagefault | hrm |
| 01:08.04 | pagefault | anyone know which group contains music videos |
| 01:08.14 | numist | svk stands for ? |
| 01:08.18 | kergoth` | yeah let me run my usenet client quick |
| 01:08.32 | kergoth` | numist: http://svk.elixus.org/ |
| 01:08.33 | pagefault | I found some but they don't have many posts in them |
| 01:08.41 | kergoth` | "svk is a decentralized version control system. It uses the Subversion filesystem but provides additional, powerful features. svk plays well with others, it can mirror remote Subversion, Perforce, and CVS repositories to perform offline operations." |
| 01:08.43 | scanlime | I love bugmenot |
| 01:08.54 | pagefault | yeah it's great when it works |
| 01:09.06 | numist | kergoth`: someones killing your connection |
| 01:09.06 | kergoth` | its like svn but with non-shitty merging, and cherry picking and other niftiness |
| 01:09.08 | kergoth` | man |
| 01:09.12 | kergoth` | ubuntu hoary had svk 0.26 |
| 01:09.14 | kergoth` | current is 1.02 |
| 01:09.16 | kergoth` | hehe |
| 01:09.25 | ChipX86 | darking farklogs |
| 01:09.33 | kergoth` | numist: i am, i'm pushing an OE tree up to berlios.de's svn |
| 01:10.38 | numist | ah hah |
| 01:11.23 | scanlime | what the.. |
| 01:11.31 | scanlime | why am I getting kernel debug messages from vmware's windows UI? |
| 01:11.46 | ChipX86 | dunno |
| 01:11.56 | scanlime | maybe windows keeps one giant log buffer for all userspace + kernel processes... |
| 01:13.57 | numist | gotta love unfinished docs: .##TODO witty open quote here. .##TODO Witty Quote Author |
| 01:14.05 | kergoth` | hehe |
| 01:17.38 | pagefault | sigh |
| 01:17.44 | pagefault | #zsnes is slowly turning into a furry channel |
| 01:18.36 | numist | ? |
| 01:18.41 | numist | #define furry |
| 01:18.54 | pagefault | you probably don't want to know |
| 01:19.13 | pagefault | it's a bunch of guys who dress up as furry animals and do the nasty |
| 01:19.17 | numist | Im thinking of a furby that just wont shut up |
| 01:19.22 | numist | oh dear |
| 01:19.29 | numist | well, the hammer will still come in handy |
| 01:19.30 | scanlime | http://www.jwz.org/gruntle/infographic.html |
| 01:19.50 | numist | thanks scanlime |
| 01:20.22 | numist | *** List is by no means exhaustive <-- nice |
| 01:20.55 | pagefault | haha |
| 01:20.57 | pagefault | thanks scanlime |
| 01:22.20 | pagefault | yeah |
| 01:22.23 | pagefault | they are missing ricers |
| 01:22.30 | pagefault | those are in there too |
| 01:23.57 | numist | they gotta be up there |
| 01:25.20 | pagefault | my friend had cable at his place today |
| 01:25.29 | pagefault | ugh it just reminds me how bad cable is in this area |
| 01:25.33 | numist | hehe |
| 01:25.40 | numist | cable > DSL in my area |
| 01:25.59 | pagefault | it took like 5 minutes to load up this web site I was viewing at home |
| 01:26.07 | numist | :o |
| 01:26.29 | pagefault | it's just oversubscribed |
| 01:27.34 | numist | .. |
| 01:27.36 | numist | erm |
| 01:27.36 | numist | mmm |
| 01:28.08 | pagefault | they probably get away with it because most people don't know/care |
| 01:28.15 | pagefault | as long as email and msn is works it's good |
| 01:28.55 | numist | yeah |
| 01:30.11 | scanlime | *crash* |
| 01:30.44 | scanlime | no, my windows machine |
| 01:30.52 | numist | d'oh |
| 01:31.05 | pagefault | if microsoft made cars they would be out of business by now |
| 01:31.11 | numist | aye |
| 01:31.19 | numist | but software is more acceptable, as its more complicated |
| 01:31.20 | numist | (right?) |
| 01:31.25 | pagefault | sure |
| 01:31.34 | scanlime | this wasn't microsoft's fault |
| 01:31.46 | scanlime | I crashed linux dozens of times debugging drivers too |
| 01:31.47 | numist | I mean, its an entire OS and application suite, not banking software or something |
| 01:31.51 | numist | woot |
| 01:31.55 | numist | panic |
| 01:32.02 | pagefault | well I was just talking about windows in general |
| 01:32.12 | numist | hehe |
| 01:32.23 | numist | I dunno, lately, windows has crashed less than my car :x |
| 01:32.27 | numist | then again, Im selling my car |
| 01:32.41 | pagefault | it depends what I am doing |
| 01:32.51 | pagefault | if I am just surfing or irc then it's fine |
| 01:33.05 | numist | I use it for work, so its fairly taxing |
| 01:33.21 | pagefault | vstudio isn't fun though when it crashes |
| 01:33.23 | pagefault | and your work goes with it |
| 01:33.31 | numist | yeah, and it gobbles up memory |
| 01:33.41 | pagefault | no choice though |
| 01:33.50 | scanlime | sure you have a choice |
| 01:33.50 | file | or when you're in a class with 25 other people and the power goes out |
| 01:33.54 | file | and they all whine at the same time |
| 01:33.54 | scanlime | ... |
| 01:33.55 | numist | lol |
| 01:34.05 | file | "I lost all my work! give me full credit because of it!" |
| 01:34.06 | scanlime | why does any mention of windows have to turn into this discussion? |
| 01:34.06 | pagefault | not if you work at a company that uses vstudio |
| 01:34.09 | pagefault | and they tell you to use it |
| 01:34.12 | pagefault | you better damn well use it |
| 01:34.18 | scanlime | under ANY os you have choices of what tools to use |
| 01:34.38 | scanlime | you'd be complaining about the same problems if they made you use a particular IDE under linux |
| 01:34.38 | numist | scanlime: not in pagefault's case |
| 01:34.50 | pagefault | I have no choice, sure I would love to use mon |
| 01:34.50 | pagefault | o |
| 01:34.55 | numist | but yes, different tools, different issues |
| 01:35.01 | pagefault | but I am sure management wouldn't like that |
| 01:35.07 | scanlime | why would they care? |
| 01:35.14 | ChipX86 | yay, my GeForce FX 5500 came |
| 01:35.23 | file | work forces me to use emacs as my text editor, but I've grown accustomed to it... and like it |
| 01:35.26 | pagefault | because everything is set up to compile with visual studio |
| 01:35.39 | pagefault | and all the databases are tied into things like MS SQL |
| 01:35.49 | file | MS SQL is a good database server |
| 01:35.57 | scanlime | you can compile with MS tools without using their IDE |
| 01:36.11 | pagefault | I could yes, but then that makes form design a bit hard |
| 01:36.17 | ToyKeeper | file: work forces you to use a certain editor? |
| 01:36.19 | scanlime | *puke* |
| 01:36.20 | ToyKeeper | Weird. |
| 01:36.22 | scanlime | form design? |
| 01:36.32 | pagefault | yes |
| 01:36.37 | file | ToyKeeper: or else when I seek help then they won't help lol |
| 01:36.52 | pagefault | for ASP.NET/VB etc |
| 01:37.20 | ToyKeeper | file: I'd still probably use something else... not that emacs is bad, but it'd be nice to have a choice. |
| 01:37.31 | file | having two computers is also a requirement, so if one fails you can switch to the other and not interrupt your work |
| 01:37.48 | pagefault | I dunno I just prefer to use what I am told to use and keep my job |
| 01:37.58 | file | pagefault follows the rules |
| 01:38.09 | numist | pagefault keeps his job |
| 01:38.31 | pagefault | I couldn't care what they use as long as I get paid :) |
| 01:38.32 | ToyKeeper | Hehehe... you may have a point there. :) |
| 01:39.14 | ToyKeeper | Emacs can definitely be configured to have better keybindings, so it wouldn't be a big deal. :) |
| 01:39.20 | file | I find it funny that the company I work for is so similar to Initech |
| 01:39.35 | kergoth` | how many bosses do you have? |
| 01:39.39 | file | 3 |
| 01:39.43 | pagefault | 3 here |
| 01:39.44 | scanlime | haha |
| 01:39.58 | pagefault | with the nature of the stuff I work with |
| 01:40.00 | pagefault | if it's not done right I get in shit |
| 01:40.05 | pagefault | and I don't need my boss pissed off at me |
| 01:40.07 | numist | I have 8 bosses. Pardon? 8, bob. 8? 8. |
| 01:40.19 | file | oh it's not terrible |
| 01:40.34 | file | one is in Hong Kong, one is on vacation, and the other I work with every day... so it's not toooo bad |
| 01:40.52 | pagefault | oh well this is just temp work |
| 01:41.00 | pagefault | no way in hell I would work here full time |
| 01:41.04 | file | and according to my Hong Kong boss, it's better to fire people on a Monday |
| 01:41.11 | ChipX86 | when I thanked my manager for trying to get me my money back because of that stupid new policy, she said, "Don't worry about it. I'm your manager. That's my job." |
| 01:41.32 | ChipX86 | somehow I get the impression that that's not the attitude of managers in a place where you have 8 bosses and TPS reports |
| 01:41.32 | pagefault | hmm |
| 01:41.38 | pagefault | I want to work at IBM again that place was amazing |
| 01:41.46 | file | I thankfully don't have to do reports |
| 01:41.56 | scanlime | ChipX86: we had TPS reports at spacegrant for a while :( |
| 01:42.04 | ChipX86 | what is a TPS report exactly? |
| 01:42.09 | scanlime | I still have no idea |
| 01:42.13 | pagefault | they had a server full of like 30gb of mp3s |
| 01:42.16 | pagefault | for anyone in the building to use |
| 01:42.20 | numist | file: not on a friday? |
| 01:42.26 | file | numist: nope |
| 01:42.31 | numist | weird |
| 01:43.15 | pagefault | and how many offices have their own exit on the highway |
| 01:43.17 | scanlime | ChipX86: I think I somehow avoided them, just like I avoided the 9 AM meetings |
| 01:43.20 | ToyKeeper | 30G for a shared music area seems kinda small. |
| 01:43.22 | ChipX86 | scanlime: nice |
| 01:43.36 | file | avoiding stuff is good |
| 01:43.47 | pagefault | ToyKeeper, it was whatever other people put there |
| 01:44.03 | ToyKeeper | Hmm. |
| 01:44.16 | ToyKeeper | I have a 30G music player coming in the mail this week... |
| 01:44.18 | pagefault | it was great though |
| 01:44.21 | scanlime | ugh |
| 01:44.31 | pagefault | if you needed some kind of hardware to test your code on |
| 01:44.32 | scanlime | I'm tempted to load up IDA and see whether these debug functions are even being compiled in |
| 01:44.41 | pagefault | all you did was phone downstairs and in 15 minutes it came to your office |
| 01:45.40 | scanlime | what kind of hardware? |
| 01:45.47 | ToyKeeper | pagefault: sounds spiffy... where was that? |
| 01:45.50 | pagefault | IBM |
| 01:45.59 | ToyKeeper | Oh, heh. |
| 01:46.02 | file | thank you Bob! |
| 01:46.02 | pagefault | they had big beanbag chairs in the coffee room too |
| 01:46.14 | file | I wonder what our office looks like... |
| 01:46.16 | pagefault | and a PS2 and xbox |
| 01:46.19 | scanlime | pagefault: computers, printers, PDAs, lasers? |
| 01:46.21 | pagefault | if you need time to chill out |
| 01:46.27 | file | lasers!!! |
| 01:46.37 | pagefault | scanlime, computers and printers |
| 01:46.44 | pagefault | I don't know if they had lasers, I never asked |
| 01:46.54 | scanlime | you missed PDAs |
| 01:47.02 | pagefault | no idea |
| 01:47.14 | pagefault | they give you a notebook though if you work there |
| 01:47.41 | KeyserLaptop | with nice lined paper in it? |
| 01:47.51 | file | everyone should have a PDA, then you can tie it into a satellite dish like on Antitrust and hax0r teh Gibson |
| 01:47.55 | file | and now - someone shoot me |
| 01:47.55 | ToyKeeper | I got a brand-new notebook last week. |
| 01:48.01 | ToyKeeper | It cost $0.10. |
| 01:48.08 | pagefault | can't keep it of course |
| 01:48.13 | pagefault | but as long as you work there you can use it |
| 01:48.22 | scanlime | ToyKeeper: wow. usually they're more like $2.00 or so |
| 01:48.23 | ToyKeeper | http://hackthegibson.net/ |
| 01:48.59 | pagefault | hack the planet |
| 01:49.08 | pagefault | heh |
| 01:49.22 | pagefault | hah that site is so awful |
| 01:49.34 | numist | ROFL: http://www.hurvitz.org/404 |
| 01:49.39 | numist | click the obvious button |
| 01:50.26 | kergoth` | hah |
| 01:52.34 | ChipX86 | who developed GnomeCanvas? I need to have a little... chat. |
| 01:52.53 | numist | ChipX86: with a brick? :) |
| 01:53.03 | ChipX86 | both. |
| 01:56.32 | scanlime | ChipX86: I don't suppose you understand our build system for windows drivers? :) |
| 01:57.17 | KeyserLaptop | SOPHIE!!!!! |
| 01:57.27 | numist | bad sophie |
| 01:57.32 | ChipX86 | scanlime: nope |
| 01:57.41 | KeyserLaptop | Sophie? |
| 01:57.45 | Sophie197 | what? |
| 01:57.46 | KeyserLaptop | <click> |
| 01:57.53 | Sophie197 | bastard |
| 01:57.54 | kergoth` | woo, lords of acid |
| 01:57.57 | kergoth` | i havent listened to them in too long |
| 01:58.11 | Sophie197 | hehehe LoA |
| 01:58.16 | kergoth` | :D |
| 01:59.04 | kergoth` | i have an LoA music video around here somewhere |
| 01:59.10 | kergoth` | heh, i've heard the concerts were .. interesting |
| 01:59.19 | kergoth` | hehe |
| 01:59.23 | Sophie197 | what? |
| 01:59.32 | Sophie197 | the one I went to had strippers |
| 01:59.40 | Sophie197 | but they wasn't wearin no clothes |
| 01:59.46 | Sophie197 | they was stripped. |
| 02:00.04 | KeyserLaptop | i thought you said they had red body paint, and the devil tail and horns and such |
| 02:00.18 | Sophie197 | oh, I don't remember so much |
| 02:00.26 | Sophie197 | except that it was sexy as hell. |
| 02:00.26 | pagefault | so she says |
| 02:00.46 | kergoth` | an LoA concert would have to be sexy as hell. thats what the band is about |
| 02:00.48 | ChipX86 | :) |
| 02:00.57 | ChipX86 | Jamie doesn't want to go to a strip club |
| 02:01.01 | kergoth` | i heard they're coming out with a new album at some point here |
| 02:01.36 | Sophie197 | hm. |
| 02:02.56 | KeyserLaptop | except it wouldn't ahve been 2000, would it? |
| 02:02.59 | Sophie197 | rofl |
| 02:03.15 | Sophie197 | nope |
| 02:03.20 | ChipX86 | so why didn't you just say hi or something instead of hanging up? :P |
| 02:03.25 | Sophie197 | would have been maybe '98 |
| 02:03.45 | Sophie197 | ChipX86: I wanted to, then I wussed out. |
| 02:03.50 | ChipX86 | awww |
| 02:03.52 | ChipX86 | I'm not scary |
| 02:03.58 | ChipX86 | ask Jamie! |
| 02:04.00 | kergoth` | liar |
| 02:04.03 | Sophie197 | I was gonna ask if your server was running |
| 02:04.07 | KeyserLaptop | Sophie197!!!!!?!?!?! |
| 02:04.24 | Sophie197 | KeyserLaptop: yes, husband? |
| 02:04.26 | KeyserLaptop | <click> |
| 02:04.30 | Sophie197 | gah! |
| 02:04.34 | KeyserLaptop | roflmao |
| 02:08.35 | Sophie197 | say, file |
| 02:08.44 | Sophie197 | what's your phone #? |
| 02:08.45 | file | uh oh |
| 02:08.51 | file | which one |
| 02:08.57 | file | it depends how you wanna reach me |
| 02:09.18 | Sophie197 | well, it's not for me |
| 02:09.20 | KeyserLaptop | FILE!!!!!! |
| 02:09.23 | file | hi |
| 02:09.24 | KeyserLaptop | <click> |
| 02:09.25 | Sophie197 | it's fo this hot chick |
| 02:09.33 | file | oh, let me get a number... |
| 02:09.40 | KeyserLaptop | 555 |
| 02:09.40 | file | please hold |
| 02:09.52 | file | actually 666 on my phone system plays "So Long And Thanks For All The Fish" |
| 02:10.18 | file | 877-781-1208 -> if you ring that it'll play that song as well ;) |
| 02:11.22 | file | someone in Florida did :P |
| 02:11.29 | ChipX86 | that'd be Sophie |
| 02:11.42 | file | scanlime: go ahead, it really does play it |
| 02:12.08 | file | it's my play toll-free number, some days it'll give you dialtone and let you place calls anywhere |
| 02:12.15 | Sophie197 | 321-890-7545 -- if you call that it'll play a song for you |
| 02:12.22 | scanlime | hah |
| 02:12.30 | KeyserLaptop | goddamn it, sophie. |
| 02:12.35 | file | Sophie197: I should add you to my address book! |
| 02:12.55 | Sophie197 | yay. |
| 02:13.52 | gonkulator | yay |
| 02:13.53 | Sophie197 | it only rang once :/ |
| 02:13.53 | KeyserLaptop | bah. sophie missed the call |
| 02:13.56 | gonkulator | 13931 spams |
| 02:13.56 | file | 'tsk 'tsk |
| 02:13.59 | KeyserLaptop | dial again, whoever it was |
| 02:14.17 | file | I should put it out a switch directly |
| 02:14.24 | file | :P |
| 02:14.24 | KeyserLaptop | they are the night zombies |
| 02:14.27 | scanlime | aw |
| 02:14.28 | KeyserLaptop | ARGHHH |
| 02:14.32 | scanlime | tomboy thinks "debuggityness" isn't a word |
| 02:14.40 | file | I combat your music with my own. |
| 02:14.43 | numist | sure it is |
| 02:14.44 | gonkulator | debuggityness isn't a word? |
| 02:15.48 | scanlime | ChipX86: sushi time soon? I'm sick of messing with this driver, and I've been here long enough today |
| 02:15.58 | ChipX86 | yeah, I'm ready. GnomeCanvas is driving me insane |
| 02:16.04 | Sophie197 | yay for the night zombies. |
| 02:16.04 | ChipX86 | I am no further than I was when I came in last Friday |
| 02:16.07 | scanlime | fun |
| 02:16.15 | file | it's only Wednesday sadly |
| 02:16.23 | scanlime | I'll meet you at your office in a couple minutes |
| 02:16.26 | ChipX86 | ok |
| 02:16.27 | file | and I forgot to get something when I was grocery shopping |
| 02:17.22 | file | Cocoa, Florida? |
| 02:25.35 | Sophie197 | f|0riÞ@ 0wnZ j00. |
| 02:25.49 | file | uh huh |
| 02:26.16 | Sophie197 | 0wnZ, b|@tc4 |
| 02:27.01 | Sophie[book] | mmmmmmm |
| 02:27.08 | file | full of sedatives! |
| 02:27.28 | file | hail gonkulator |
| 02:27.49 | numist | oh my god... |
| 02:28.02 | Sophie[book] | hiya gonkey |
| 02:28.02 | numist | me hits hisself |
| 02:28.18 | numist | :( |
| 02:28.29 | pagefault | aliant upgraded people to 5mbit |
| 02:29.18 | file | yeah |
| 02:29.39 | file | I should see what my line is synced at |
| 02:29.54 | *** join/#tacobeam SecretMethod70 (i=SecretMe@c-67-173-67-244.hsd1.il.comcast.net) |
| 02:29.59 | file | I'm on the other side of town unfortunately |
| 02:30.11 | pagefault | no idea where your CO is? |
| 02:30.40 | file | other side of town. |
| 02:30.51 | pagefault | ah |
| 02:30.52 | file | synced at 2.2Mbps |
| 02:30.53 | pagefault | I am on a remote CO |
| 02:30.57 | pagefault | about 1 km away |
| 02:31.22 | file | bah :P |
| 02:31.25 | pagefault | well I think 1 km away |
| 02:31.28 | pagefault | I tried to find it |
| 02:31.37 | file | geek. |
| 02:31.44 | pagefault | when I went to find it I just looked for a hut |
| 02:31.57 | pagefault | and I saw bell trucks parked around it one day so I just assumed it was it |
| 02:32.36 | gonkulator | hey Sophie[book] |
| 02:33.03 | gonkulator | darn |
| 02:33.05 | gonkulator | hey file |
| 02:33.28 | numist | heehee |
| 02:33.36 | pagefault | either way |
| 02:33.45 | pagefault | my line can't be too bad if I can get a 5mbit sync |
| 02:34.25 | pagefault | and I seem to be able to make a perfect 53.1 kbps connection on dialup |
| 02:35.02 | file | I need to choose new on hold music |
| 02:35.35 | pagefault | dell needs to change theirs |
| 02:37.22 | pagefault | firefox doesn't estimate the download speed very well at 500kb/sec |
| 02:37.30 | pagefault | it starts around 700 and slowly works down |
| 02:38.36 | gonkulator | alright, bedtime for sure |
| 02:38.43 | gonkulator | g'night file, pagefault, numist |
| 02:38.50 | pagefault | night |
| 02:38.53 | pagefault | sleep well :) |
| 02:38.54 | file | night |
| 02:38.59 | file | and darn it these are m4a not mp3 |
| 02:39.02 | pagefault | I need some food :) |
| 02:39.16 | file | order Swiss Chalet |
| 02:39.21 | pagefault | nah |
| 02:39.26 | pagefault | I did already this week |
| 02:40.04 | pagefault | some of this WoW fanart is amazing |
| 02:40.10 | pagefault | just amazing |
| 02:40.22 | pagefault | it's amazing they find time to do it when they have WoW to begin with |
| 02:41.27 | pagefault | I wish I knew how to draw stuff |
| 02:41.52 | *** join/#tacobeam spooklight (n=jamie@69.238.196.91) |
| 02:42.42 | numist | night gonky |
| 02:42.59 | pagefault | time to read slashdot |
| 02:43.13 | pagefault | I need some amusement |
| 02:43.31 | numist | thats amusing, if not aggravating |
| 02:43.35 | pagefault | wow thats amazing, surgery over the internet |
| 02:43.37 | pagefault | and scary |
| 02:44.14 | pagefault | and Yahoo will make it's own VoIP service |
| 02:44.47 | file | I'm somehow not surprised |
| 02:44.48 | pagefault | I have a feeling too much of a good thing is going to bad for the industry |
| 02:45.50 | pagefault | haha |
| 02:46.04 | pagefault | why do I read this site |
| 02:51.39 | pagefault | eej |
| 02:51.41 | pagefault | eek |
| 02:51.44 | pagefault | powerbook battery recall |
| 02:53.37 | file | another? |
| 02:53.50 | pagefault | I don't know |
| 02:53.53 | pagefault | I just read on their site |
| 02:54.14 | *** join/#tacobeam SecretMethod70 (i=SecretM7@c-67-173-67-244.hsd1.il.comcast.net) |
| 02:54.42 | pagefault | hehe |
| 02:54.46 | pagefault | they are being sued too for ipod batteries |
| 02:54.46 | file | it may be mine |
| 02:55.10 | file | I don't remember when I bought my Powerbook |
| 02:55.20 | pagefault | it says between oct 2004 and may 2005 |
| 02:55.33 | pagefault | but they have a site to check for the serial # |
| 02:55.37 | file | yeah I'm going to |
| 02:55.40 | file | uploading something right now |
| 02:56.35 | file | June 13th! |
| 02:56.47 | file | but I'll check anyway |
| 02:57.49 | pagefault | yeah in case you got old stock |
| 03:01.37 | pagefault | sigh |
| 03:01.41 | pagefault | I can't get my friend to not use windows me |
| 03:01.48 | file | ME?!? |
| 03:01.52 | pagefault | yeah :/ |
| 03:02.06 | pagefault | he thinks it's cool |
| 03:03.17 | file | nope my battery is not recalled |
| 03:03.26 | pagefault | thats good |
| 03:03.51 | file | slightly |
| 03:04.44 | pagefault | uggghh |
| 03:04.51 | pagefault | he is running a ton of crap |
| 03:04.58 | pagefault | like spybot and adaware at the same time |
| 03:05.38 | file | and he still uses it? |
| 03:06.01 | pagefault | yeah |
| 03:06.33 | file | ...right |
| 03:06.38 | pagefault | yeah :/ |
| 03:06.39 | pagefault | 32mb |
| 03:06.42 | pagefault | of ram |
| 03:06.54 | file | ok. |
| 03:06.56 | file | hit him over the head |
| 03:07.06 | pagefault | yeah my firewall and spyware/ AV protection eats up 32mb pretty fast |
| 03:07.13 | pagefault | me: you don't need a firewall when you have a router |
| 03:07.18 | pagefault | but the computer is so old that i can't find any diagnostic tools to tell me what kind of motherboard i have |
| 03:07.28 | pagefault | ok? |
| 03:07.33 | pagefault | this guy is taking CS with me |
| 03:07.37 | pagefault | be afraid |
| 03:07.40 | file | O.O |
| 03:07.42 | file | I am |
| 03:07.52 | file | be afraid of my Hackers soundtrack music on hold |
| 03:08.15 | pagefault | hehe |
| 03:08.33 | pagefault | man |
| 03:09.04 | pagefault | i'd hate to see how much useless crap is on his system |
| 03:11.31 | pagefault | yeah :/ |
| 03:11.37 | pagefault | he has a lot of stuff |
| 03:11.53 | pagefault | and why the hell does WMP have my mp3 player listed 3 times |
| 03:11.58 | pagefault | I don't think I have 3 of them |
| 03:13.11 | pagefault | ugh |
| 03:13.13 | pagefault | it's time for a reformat |
| 03:13.15 | pagefault | yeah :/ |
| 03:13.18 | pagefault | heh |
| 03:15.50 | pagefault | ugh |
| 03:15.53 | pagefault | yeah :/ |
| 03:15.55 | pagefault | this is nuts |
| 03:16.10 | pagefault | I guess I need to reformat my system again |
| 03:16.23 | pagefault | this is totally screwed |
| 03:21.01 | pagefault | he doesn't think a P1 can handle 128mb |
| 03:21.05 | pagefault | oh man |
| 03:21.08 | pagefault | ugh |
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| 03:37.17 | pagefault | hey |
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| 03:48.43 | pagefault | lets see if this code will compile or won't |
| 03:48.56 | file | I doubt it. |
| 03:49.03 | pagefault | yeah :/ |
| 03:49.04 | pagefault | its a mess |
| 03:49.13 | pagefault | hehe |
| 03:49.24 | pagefault | I blame file |
| 03:49.33 | file | you do that |
| 03:49.37 | pagefault | I will |
| 03:50.25 | pagefault | it would be nice if itunes has a subscription like service |
| 03:51.52 | pagefault | my mp3 player has a "pure english" manual |
| 03:51.55 | pagefault | that's helpful |
| 03:52.01 | nullpuppy | yay home |
| 03:52.28 | pagefault | ugh |
| 03:52.30 | pagefault | gcc sucks |
| 03:52.32 | pagefault | yeah :/ |
| 03:52.36 | pagefault | it messed up |
| 03:52.50 | pagefault | and I see the mouse is back to it's old games |
| 03:53.11 | pagefault | when I get my cheque from the government I am buying a MX1000 |
| 03:57.14 | pagefault | extended warranty? how can I lose? |
| 04:00.33 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r8804 10motion/py/ (Motion/motion.c build_motion_graphs.py): fix a refcounting bug that was causing the bones dictionary to be garbage collected after you used it twice |
| 04:02.45 | purple_cow | eek. over 330 photos from this trip so far =P |
| 04:03.27 | pagefault | I can get cheap tickets |
| 04:12.54 | nullpuppy | little cabin thingy? |
| 04:18.26 | pagefault | hmm |
| 04:18.31 | pagefault | that US broadband report is interesting |
| 04:18.56 | pagefault | the FCC defines broadband as 200kbps |
| 04:18.59 | pagefault | thats rediculous |
| 04:31.28 | pagefault | man |
| 04:31.39 | pagefault | this compiler is rediculous |
| 04:31.40 | pagefault | lcc32 |
| 04:32.05 | pagefault | i've been waiting 5 minutes for this one file |
| 04:32.38 | pagefault | carmack must be rediculously patient |
| 04:32.43 | pagefault | heh |
| 04:33.10 | nullpuppy | what are you building? |
| 04:38.13 | numist | scanlime: ping |
| 04:41.03 | ChipX86 | numist: he's heading back home now |
| 04:41.08 | numist | d'oh |
| 04:41.21 | numist | wanted some hands on info about the ide <--> usb cable |
| 04:42.59 | numist | I may not have a lot of room :/ |
| 04:43.39 | pagefault | trying to build some q3a sources |
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| 04:44.15 | nullpuppy | neat |
| 04:44.29 | nullpuppy | in windows? linux? mac/ |
| 04:44.30 | StrFox | orientation sucks |
| 04:44.31 | nullpuppy | ? |
| 04:44.57 | pagefault | windows |
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| 04:58.22 | scanlime | numist: pong |
| 04:58.51 | numist | scanlime: I had a spatial question for you, since Im cutting soon |
| 04:59.00 | scanlime | ok. |
| 04:59.06 | numist | given the ide <--> usb cables, whats the min clearance the rear of each drive needs? |
| 04:59.15 | numist | the ide side looked a lil thick |
| 04:59.27 | scanlime | yes |
| 04:59.30 | scanlime | maybe 1-2 inches |
| 04:59.37 | numist | oh really |
| 04:59.42 | scanlime | well, after you take them apart |
| 05:00.09 | numist | I like taking things apart :) |
| 05:00.28 | numist | minimum condctive clearance, then, so I dont put a metal plate against something important :) |
| 05:01.58 | scanlime | well, this will all depend on the exact adaptors you use, and how you mount the cables |
| 05:02.11 | numist | hrm.. I can make about 1.3" from the back of the drive itself... |
| 05:02.27 | numist | without a lot of effort to move the power supply |
| 05:02.51 | numist | I can probably fudge 1.5" if I try for it |
| 05:03.18 | numist | think itll work? |
| 05:03.44 | scanlime | nod |
| 05:03.50 | scanlime | mine has rubber feet =D |
| 05:03.56 | numist | it looks like itll be ok, if I try to space things out a bit better |
| 05:03.59 | numist | ah yes, rubber feet |
| 05:04.03 | numist | I need to take a picture of this... |
| 05:04.11 | numist | all its missing is the usb cables and the hub |
| 05:04.17 | scanlime | cool |
| 05:04.24 | numist | -glee- |
| 05:04.34 | scanlime | I still need to cut and grind the body of my case a bit, then make a removable back panel that holds the fan, hub, and power connectors |
| 05:04.48 | scanlime | then wire up the slightly modified USB adpators |
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| 05:42.32 | numist | scanlime and any other interested parties: http://athena.numist.net/~numist/usbide |
| 05:42.38 | numist | sorry about the lack of a gallery installation |
| 05:43.07 | numist | but... I can add .25" to the hdd/power supply spacing, so Im thinking itll be more than enough, if I never remove a drive |
| 05:44.21 | samy | I just watched Hotel Rwanda |
| 05:44.24 | numist | sorry theyre so damn big |
| 05:45.04 | numist | lemme resize |
| 05:45.11 | samy | That is a great movie. |
| 05:47.33 | nullpuppy | numist: neat |
| 05:47.48 | scanlime | ooh, cute |
| 05:47.50 | scanlime | what's the power supply from? |
| 05:48.05 | numist | old emachines of ozzloy's |
| 05:48.16 | scanlime | hmm, mine's also an emachines supply :) |
| 05:48.17 | numist | the fan was dead.. perfect :D |
| 05:48.21 | scanlime | hehe |
| 05:48.22 | numist | nice |
| 05:48.36 | numist | wound up being able to make it smaller than anticipated |
| 05:48.36 | scanlime | though I don't think I'm going to put the power supply internal to this assembly |
| 05:48.45 | scanlime | just leave a +5/12 DC connector on the back |
| 05:49.32 | numist | I was going to do that, but then I realised, I actually didnt have to cut any of those beams, so if I could fit the power supply inside, it would actually save me work |
| 05:49.46 | scanlime | cool |
| 05:50.09 | numist | 2 x 120mm fans at front, make some ducting, add the cables and a usb hub, and Im good to go.. pretty sure theres room for all that |
| 05:50.17 | numist | giganto-fan? |
| 05:50.44 | scanlime | well, it's just a 120mm |
| 05:50.46 | nullpuppy | damnit |
| 05:50.47 | scanlime | but it's big... |
| 05:50.49 | scanlime | and very quiet |
| 05:50.52 | nullpuppy | now I want to make one of those too :) |
| 05:51.10 | scanlime | haha, purple_cow started a trend |
| 05:51.20 | numist | yep, I plan to put a temperature control on the fans, attach them to the power supply or the drives |
| 05:51.38 | numist | dunno how Im going to handle power supply cooling yet :/ |
| 05:52.13 | scanlime | I was figuring you could put a 120mm right behind the power supply then enclose the case with some kind of thin plastic- so the air runs over the supply then the disks |
| 05:52.25 | numist | mm, good one |
| 05:52.27 | scanlime | that's what I was going to do before I decided to make the supply external |
| 05:53.55 | numist | scanlime: you think the middle drives will get enough cooling with all the cabling and the power supply plate in the way? |
| 05:55.18 | scanlime | worth a try.. a little air flow seems to go a long way with disks |
| 05:55.43 | scanlime | but I guess you could have an intake fan and an exhaust fan |
| 05:55.52 | numist | hey, now theres an idea |
| 05:56.13 | numist | I guess my only hurdle is paneling off the side with the power supply power input... |
| 05:56.17 | numist | lots of space to lose air there |
| 05:56.29 | numist | hey, I dont have tools to bend acrylic (or any acrylic left to bend) |
| 05:56.41 | scanlime | I'm using my soldering iron |
| 05:56.45 | numist | haha |
| 05:56.46 | scanlime | (hot-air variety) |
| 05:56.46 | numist | nice |
| 05:56.59 | numist | Ive got a heat gun for stripping paint/heat shrink tubing |
| 05:57.06 | numist | it would probably at least soften it... |
| 05:57.46 | numist | http://athena.numist.net/~numist/usbide/rear.jpg <-- how should that side of the power supply be sealed? :/ |
| 05:58.03 | numist | I suppose as long as it keeps most of the air inside, its ok... |
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| 05:59.16 | numist | duct tape! |
| 05:59.38 | numist | that *would* work |
| 06:02.03 | numist | hrm, Ive never milled plexi/acrylic before.. wonder how hard that is |
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| 06:09.13 | scanlime | woo... that was harder than I expected |
| 06:09.19 | scanlime | but my desk can sure take a lot of heat |
| 06:20.38 | scanlime | yay, nice and wobbly :P |
| 06:23.35 | numist | strip heaters are fun |
| 06:24.00 | numist | so I think Ive figured out how to do the paneling and cooling... just gotta get the parts now |
| 06:28.20 | numist | damn, gotta go to the hospital for a friend |
| 06:28.32 | nullpuppy | ouch, whats wrong? |
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| 09:51.15 | numist | ugh, tired |
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| 14:23.53 | kergoth | morning |
| 14:37.31 | kergoth | morning file |
| 14:37.57 | file[laptop] | what'cha be doink? |
| 15:57.25 | numist | hmm |
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| 16:16.02 | kergoth | large cappuccino with half a shot of cherry and half a shot of vanilla. not bad. |
| 16:16.06 | kergoth | yay caffeine |
| 16:16.14 | numist | yay |
| 16:16.32 | numist | heh, one of my neighbours just walked out the door, looking very unhappy at being awake |
| 16:18.01 | kergoth | hehe |
| 16:18.27 | scanlime | blehhhh |
| 16:18.36 | numist | ahoy there scanlime |
| 16:18.42 | kergoth | sounds like scanlime is enjoying his morning too |
| 16:18.47 | scanlime | yeah |
| 16:18.47 | numist | :D |
| 16:18.48 | scanlime | too early |
| 16:18.54 | numist | bah, at least you slept |
| 16:18.59 | numist | I wound up having to go to the hospital |
| 16:19.02 | kergoth | eep |
| 16:19.03 | scanlime | :( |
| 16:19.06 | scanlime | what happened? |
| 16:19.07 | numist | took a friend there |
| 16:19.20 | numist | forgot to bring, say, my laptop, or a book, or anything of entertainment value |
| 16:19.27 | kergoth | that sucks |
| 16:19.50 | numist | suddenly my thoughts of "hey, I can get 9 hours tonight" vanished as we spent until 4am at the ER |
| 16:20.10 | scanlime | so, I found something really disgusting to cheer you up |
| 16:20.15 | scanlime | http://www.gothic-chat.de/profile.id.26291 |
| 16:20.17 | numist | sweet, it better be really nasty |
| 16:20.28 | scanlime | scroll down.. find the BSD daemon on the goth kiddie's web site |
| 16:20.34 | darth_mall | generally trips to the ER involve a certain lack of premeditation |
| 16:20.41 | scanlime | look at the URL for said BSD daemon |
| 16:20.45 | numist | darth_mall: haha how right you are |
| 16:21.10 | numist | scanlime: home server? talking for evar to load |
| 16:21.20 | numist | deer park hasnt even started rendering yet :( |
| 16:21.33 | scanlime | it's fast-ish here |
| 16:21.46 | darth_mall | scanlime: haha |
| 16:21.56 | numist | boo |
| 16:22.01 | numist | ah hah, we have transfer |
| 16:22.06 | numist | wow, what an emo site |
| 16:22.31 | numist | scanlime: looking through your apache log lately? |
| 16:22.37 | numist | thats funny... |
| 16:22.48 | darth_mall | it's not emo, it's goth. which is just as whiny and self-centered, but occaisionally with better taste in clothes |
| 16:22.56 | kergoth | lol |
| 16:23.15 | numist | darth_mall: thanks for the clarification, I could never tell the difference |
| 16:23.19 | darth_mall | ^^ |
| 16:23.30 | kergoth | i just love how they try to romanticize depression |
| 16:23.34 | kergoth | idiotic int he extreme |
| 16:23.38 | numist | hehe |
| 16:23.42 | numist | I take it no one here is goth then |
| 16:24.24 | numist | woot |
| 16:24.32 | darth_mall | but these days it seems that the number of goths with good taste in clothes are dwindling |
| 16:24.42 | numist | ouch |
| 16:24.42 | kergoth | i've always loved the msuic, but never really got into the whole clothes thing |
| 16:24.49 | scanlime | numist: at least he linked to a thumbnail, not an original image.. thumbnails are cached pretty efficiently by the server |
| 16:24.56 | kergoth | darth_mall: yeah, dont they all shop at hot topic now? :P |
| 16:24.56 | numist | I know a few here that have good taste in clothing, but I dont know any emo people.. thank lord |
| 16:25.14 | darth_mall | kergoth: yeah, and what's worse is hot topic has gotten rid of almost everything they had worth buying |
| 16:25.16 | numist | scanlime: :P Id still say replace it with goatse or fuckyourself :P |
| 16:25.22 | kergoth | darth_mall: egad. |
| 16:25.26 | darth_mall | hot topic used to carry a pretty decent selection of cool stuff |
| 16:25.29 | numist | what kergoth said |
| 16:25.31 | scanlime | numist: that takes effort |
| 16:25.32 | numist | egad |
| 16:25.43 | numist | scanlime: yeah, but its worth it to think of the expression on their face :P |
| 16:25.45 | kergoth | i admit i've bought clothes from hot topic, generally music attire |
| 16:25.51 | darth_mall | but I think hot topic's goal is to create some kind of super-emo kid by blending goths and emo kids |
| 16:25.55 | scanlime | numist: I've done that before when people linked to navi images :) |
| 16:26.02 | kergoth | darth_mall: haha |
| 16:26.13 | scanlime | numist: mmm.. no... but I'm worried now :P |
| 16:26.21 | darth_mall | seriously, last time I was in there to buy this jacket for Ajay's wedding they were playing something that sounded suspiciously like Yellowcard |
| 16:26.33 | numist | I wont show it to you... you dont want to see it, but its a guy doing the impossible and creating a... uhm, loop |
| 16:26.43 | scanlime | numist: I just used an animated gif that was designed to be the most ugly thing imaginable.. and the people linking to it generally used it as a background image |
| 16:26.50 | scanlime | wow |
| 16:26.51 | numist | haha |
| 16:27.04 | numist | yeah, I do believe my suggestion would cut down on usage a lot faster :P |
| 16:28.05 | kergoth | numist: erm.. wouldnt he have to have gotten a couple ribs removed to manage that? |
| 16:28.08 | kergoth | heh |
| 16:28.38 | numist | kergoth: the loop wasnt mouth -> privates, it was 'rear-entry' |
| 16:28.55 | kergoth | jesus |
| 16:28.57 | numist | yeah |
| 16:29.01 | numist | exactly |
| 16:30.41 | numist | cuts down on offsite linking like nothing else though, lemme tell you |
| 16:30.54 | numist | scanlime: oral satisfaction... gotta get ribs removed to be flexible enough, iirc |
| 16:31.05 | scanlime | nah |
| 16:31.24 | scanlime | I bet a relatively flexible guy that was slightly well-endowed could pull it off |
| 16:31.35 | numist | oh thats why my computer was so slow.. |
| 16:31.40 | numist | it was doing a virus scan... |
| 16:31.46 | numist | on freedsb |
| 16:31.59 | scanlime | heh |
| 16:32.20 | numist | too bad I dont have sse3... but Im not made of money either :/ |
| 16:32.35 | numist | if I were, Id have a ppc already :D |
| 16:32.47 | scanlime | I should try to get to work before all the fruit is gone |
| 16:32.52 | numist | hehe |
| 16:32.55 | numist | I should head in too |
| 16:32.56 | scanlime | numist: you don't really need sse3 to make it run well... |
| 16:33.15 | numist | scanlime: is it usable without? I was going to put it on a lappy hard drive and use it primarily once in a while |
| 16:35.53 | scanlime | were you the one getting a vmware site license? |
| 16:36.27 | numist | got licenses for the company only, still going to want to befriend you or ChipX86 for my own uses |
| 16:36.38 | numist | since company licenses are windows-only |
| 16:37.07 | numist | Ill test freedsb in a vm today, but ultimately I want to do the native thing :D |
| 16:37.17 | scanlime | I think we can get you on a friends and family beta list |
| 16:37.21 | nullpuppy | numist: how many licenses did you get? and how much was it? |
| 16:37.46 | numist | nullpuppy: we started with one, because I needed it for novell, so I guess we have one, but we're buying more as soon as sales@ gets back |
| 16:37.54 | nullpuppy | ah, ok |
| 16:37.58 | numist | its funny... he got back asking me my location within 15 minutes of my first email |
| 16:38.01 | numist | havent heard back since :( |
| 16:38.07 | nullpuppy | :( |
| 16:38.19 | numist | got the money ready, but no one to take it |
| 16:38.41 | numist | either way, Id like to get it working in the personal scope too, not just at work |
| 16:39.26 | nullpuppy | yeah |
| 16:39.32 | numist | anywho... |
| 16:39.48 | numist | Im heading into work now that Ive exhausted my caffeine at home |
| 16:39.51 | numist | dishes first |
| 16:40.06 | nullpuppy | hehe |
| 16:40.17 | nullpuppy | i'm gonna go attempt my first brew here in a bit |
| 16:40.27 | Cae|Away | good luck |
| 16:40.27 | kergoth | good luck |
| 16:40.32 | nullpuppy | thanks :) |
| 16:40.40 | kergoth | hmm, urxvtc/urxvtd is nifty |
| 16:41.02 | kergoth | itd be cool to attach a urxvtd to a screen session, so when you spawn a client it automatically attaches to a given # in the screen session |
| 16:41.53 | numist | ok, be back from work |
| 16:45.46 | darth_mall | hahaha |
| 16:46.00 | darth_mall | Tenjou Tenge DVD 2 is a top pick on discountanimedvd.com |
| 16:52.37 | darth_mall | yay! new Atland today |
| 16:54.18 | ChipX86 | scanlime: the beta is about to be public |
| 16:54.34 | nullpuppy | oooh |
| 16:54.36 | nullpuppy | how soon? |
| 16:54.49 | nullpuppy | my trial on my laptop is gonna expire in 4 days :) |
| 16:54.57 | ChipX86 | soon |
| 16:55.06 | file[laptop] | like... minutes?!? |
| 16:55.09 | gonkulator | hours? |
| 16:55.10 | gonkulator | days? |
| 16:55.13 | gonkulator | months? |
| 16:55.22 | ChipX86 | maybe years! |
| 16:55.26 | file[laptop] | dang nabbit silly tracking |
| 16:55.31 | ChipX86 | every time someone asks when, we have to delay it :( |
| 16:55.39 | nullpuppy | doh! |
| 16:55.57 | file[laptop] | ChipX86: that's silly |
| 16:56.06 | nullpuppy | you should have said something then! |
| 16:56.06 | nullpuppy | :) |
| 16:56.27 | gonkulator | ChipX86: how much do you delay it when we ask? |
| 16:56.35 | kergoth | whee, been here 5 days and i already have fodder to add to my resume |
| 16:56.48 | nullpuppy | kergoth: haha, cool :) |
| 16:57.00 | file[laptop] | kergoth is also silly |
| 16:57.12 | gonkulator | indeed |
| 16:57.16 | file[laptop] | nullpuppy: excellent |
| 16:58.36 | gonkulator | nooooo |
| 16:58.58 | file[laptop] | ooh elegant |
| 16:59.10 | file[laptop] | my wireless signal in the living room is so jumpy |
| 16:59.48 | Veight | morning |
| 17:00.23 | file[laptop] | numist: not work! |
| 17:00.30 | numist | oh I wont :P |
| 17:00.31 | Veight | run! |
| 17:21.42 | scanlime | darth_mall: what's wrong with it? |
| 17:23.37 | scanlime | ChipX86: yay beta |
| 17:26.17 | darth_mall | scanlime: lots of things, really. but by "fix" I meant "get it running again" |
| 17:26.24 | darth_mall | because right now it doesn't have a functioning OS |
| 17:26.33 | scanlime | what happened to its linux? |
| 17:26.37 | darth_mall | I hosed the gentoo install in favor of an ubuntu install, but the ubuntu install didn't work ^^ |
| 17:26.42 | scanlime | ah |
| 17:26.46 | darth_mall | and then my laptop came back from Dell and I quit caring ^^ |
| 17:26.56 | darth_mall | the gentoo install was in pretty bad shape anyway |
| 17:26.57 | scanlime | if it's fast enough |
| 17:27.16 | darth_mall | I was thinking of doing something similar with mine ^^ |
| 17:28.32 | scanlime | though.. depends on how fancy a TV i get |
| 17:28.44 | scanlime | if I end up with an HDTV, I'll want something fairly powerful with DVI output |
| 17:29.21 | darth_mall | hrm... |
| 17:29.42 | darth_mall | it looks like WotC doesn't provide any sheets on their website except for the basic D&D sheet... |
| 17:29.44 | darth_mall | that's crappy |
| 17:29.59 | darth_mall | this is one among a host of reasons why I like WW better ^^ |
| 17:30.12 | scanlime | WW? |
| 17:30.17 | darth_mall | White Wolf |
| 17:30.20 | scanlime | ah |
| 17:31.00 | scanlime | oh, windows kernel debugging... |
| 17:31.01 | scanlime | right |
| 17:31.02 | scanlime | :( |
| 17:31.30 | kergoth | speaking of brain melting |
| 17:31.35 | kergoth | i should dive back into the iptables maze |
| 17:31.39 | scanlime | hah |
| 17:31.51 | scanlime | at least you know how to work the debug tools in iptables-land :) |
| 17:31.57 | kergoth | hehe. indeed |
| 17:32.01 | kergoth | :( |
| 17:32.41 | scanlime | hmm |
| 17:37.15 | numist | freedsb is hawt |
| 17:37.59 | scanlime | I've never seen so much excitement over a 100% UNIX-based operating system with a real completely FreeBSD-based kernel before! :P |
| 17:38.54 | numist | the thing is... its not the OS/kernel.. its the application suite |
| 17:39.02 | numist | Id give my left nut for a pwerbook, |
| 17:39.14 | scanlime | then your right nut for another one in six months when it breaks? |
| 17:39.25 | numist | Im good with laptops... |
| 17:39.26 | kergoth | hehe |
| 17:39.48 | numist | had a powerbook G3 for 3 years, didnt break once |
| 17:41.45 | numist | man, I miss that environment |
| 17:42.33 | numist | kinda wish the vm had a compiler or something :X |
| 17:42.40 | numist | xcode or sommat |
| 17:43.42 | scanlime | wow |
| 17:43.52 | scanlime | emacs for windows actually has okay fonts |
| 17:44.05 | scanlime | numist: you can put CD-ROMs in... |
| 17:45.20 | scanlime | micah@micah-win ~ |
| 17:45.20 | scanlime | $ which emacs |
| 17:45.21 | scanlime | /usr/bin/emacs |
| 17:45.21 | scanlime | micah@micah-win ~ |
| 17:45.21 | scanlime | $ rm /usr/bin/emacs |
| 17:45.23 | scanlime | rm: cannot remove `/usr/bin/emacs': No such file or directory |
| 17:45.26 | scanlime | *sigh* |
| 17:45.31 | kergoth | lol |
| 17:46.02 | scanlime | oh |
| 17:46.05 | scanlime | that's creepy |
| 17:46.16 | scanlime | it shows up in the shell as just 'emacs', but I actually have to rm emacs.exe |
| 17:50.33 | kergoth | hehe |
| 17:51.22 | numist | scanlime: lol |
| 17:55.25 | scanlime | woo |
| 17:55.31 | scanlime | finally, debug messages |
| 18:00.08 | numist | yay |
| 18:00.32 | nullpuppy | bwahahahaha |
| 18:00.34 | numist | scanlime: as a now-user of vmware... please please please always store the vms in an img... its most excellent |
| 18:00.40 | nullpuppy | imac is now osx-ified |
| 18:00.42 | nullpuppy | this rules |
| 18:00.45 | scanlime | numist: huh? |
| 18:00.57 | numist | when I get home Ill dd it to the disk, and Ill have a working box :D |
| 18:01.05 | scanlime | an.. img? |
| 18:01.14 | scanlime | oh, you mean you like it when it's just a flat file you can dd to a disk? |
| 18:01.15 | numist | aye |
| 18:01.19 | numist | :D |
| 18:01.25 | numist | useful in so many ways |
| 18:01.25 | scanlime | it would be bad to always do that |
| 18:01.33 | scanlime | the disks would be big and not really snapshot-happy |
| 18:01.45 | scanlime | but I think we have tools for converting disk formats.. if not it'd be easy to do without |
| 18:01.55 | numist | true, but Im not terribly concerned with snapshops.. I guess an option either way to go would work |
| 18:02.07 | scanlime | once you use snapshots you'll be concerned with them |
| 18:02.10 | numist | anyway, yeah... yay for imgs |
| 18:02.39 | scanlime | it's not that hard to read the vmdk file and figure out how the disk is layed out AFAICT |
| 18:03.50 | numist | well, having used vmware 5 for.... a day or two now... ;) |
| 18:04.56 | scanlime | tried out USB yet? :) |
| 18:09.17 | kergoth | http://www.darcs.net/DarcsWiki/Tailor <-very cool |
| 18:09.29 | kergoth | "Tailor is a tool to keep in sync repositories from various version control systems, preserving history. It works for CVS, Subversion, Darcs, and (still partially) ArX, Monotone, Codeville, Bazaar-NG, Tla and Mercurial." |
| 18:09.39 | file | ohhhhhh |
| 18:16.21 | scanlime | "I definitely don't want to put any more engineering effort into chopping corners off this square wheel unless we really have to." |
| 18:21.59 | pagefault | wee |
| 18:23.24 | pagefault | wee |
| 18:23.36 | pagefault | it's another rainy day |
| 18:29.23 | numist | scanlime: no, I havent, but I shall later |
| 18:29.38 | numist | Ive never had a *nix machine and usb running concurrently :x |
| 18:30.41 | ChipX86 | hurray for evil hacks :D |
| 18:30.45 | Cae | lol |
| 18:30.58 | numist | hurray |
| 18:31.04 | pagefault | ooh email from thinkgeek |
| 18:31.21 | ChipX86 | scanlime: it turns out that while gtk_paint_focus wants a GdkWindow, it really doesn't care. It just wants any GdkDrawable. Even some gtk widgets just pass a drawable in the form of a GdkPixmap |
| 18:31.49 | ChipX86 | but Glib::RefPtr is being a pain and won't let me cast. |
| 18:32.37 | ChipX86 | that fun-list thread is scary |
| 18:33.27 | scanlime | ahh, cool |
| 18:33.33 | pagefault | http://www.thinkgeek.com/gadgets/electronic/79be/ |
| 18:33.34 | pagefault | evil |
| 18:33.50 | scanlime | numist: you're missing out.. USB is so much better under linux than windows |
| 18:33.50 | ChipX86 | nice! |
| 18:33.53 | ChipX86 | that'd be fun |
| 18:34.26 | scanlime | haha |
| 18:34.35 | scanlime | I did something like that to purple_cow once... |
| 18:35.02 | nullpuppy | hahahhahahahaah |
| 18:36.00 | pagefault | it's evil |
| 18:36.01 | pagefault | :) |
| 18:37.37 | scanlime | well, you know how my wireless therms only transmit a packet every couple minutes... |
| 18:37.58 | scanlime | it turns out that if you put one within 6 inches or so of just about any audio amplifier, you can hear the packet |
| 18:38.08 | ChipX86 | hah |
| 18:38.09 | pagefault | haha |
| 18:39.02 | nullpuppy | crap, my water froze |
| 18:39.53 | nullpuppy | i wonder if icy is too cold |
| 18:42.39 | pagefault | slow internet today |
| 18:44.45 | ChipX86 | oh great. |
| 18:46.39 | pagefault | ? |
| 18:47.51 | scanlime | CIA would be better if all its hardware was emulated in software, and it had no users |
| 18:48.34 | scanlime | wow |
| 18:48.36 | scanlime | "490 requests have been processed since the server was loaded |
| 18:48.36 | scanlime | The server has been up for 5.84 minutes |
| 18:48.37 | scanlime | On average, there is a request every 715.11 milliseconds" |
| 18:48.39 | scanlime | traffic went up |
| 18:50.04 | Cae | http://www.local6.com/news/4861458/detail.html#121 |
| 18:59.00 | pagefault | haha wtf |
| 18:59.02 | pagefault | a ninja? |
| 19:03.15 | kergoth | haha |
| 19:15.48 | ChipX86 | I give up. |
| 19:15.56 | ChipX86 | gtk has beaten me |
| 19:16.02 | scanlime | aw. what's it doing now? |
| 19:16.41 | ChipX86 | I just cannot get this to render in the cnavas |
| 19:16.45 | ChipX86 | no matter what I try |
| 19:16.54 | ChipX86 | so I'm going to use a hard-coded black standard dashed rectangle. |
| 19:17.24 | scanlime | it it still an issue of getting it into an offscreen drawable, or getting that into the canvas? |
| 19:17.31 | ChipX86 | seems to be a bit of both |
| 19:18.00 | ChipX86 | I eventually tried just subclassing Gnome::Canvas::Pixbuf and handing it a pixbuf of the drawn focus |
| 19:18.04 | ChipX86 | but that didn't even show anything |
| 19:18.09 | ChipX86 | and I've spent too long on it |
| 19:18.59 | scanlime | so much ascii art in this code |
| 19:19.49 | scanlime | top of F(323) :) |
| 19:24.01 | ChipX86 | everything is down. |
| 19:25.24 | scanlime | oh, wonderful... |
| 19:25.38 | scanlime | at least my email works so I get the notice that exit14 doesn't |
| 19:25.48 | pagefault | ascii art makes the code look pretty |
| 19:26.42 | scanlime | my windows machine crashed... |
| 19:26.48 | scanlime | or something |
| 19:27.55 | *** join/#tacobeam KeyserS (n=mgazic@63.138.16.130) |
| 19:28.00 | scanlime | ChipX86: exit14 seems to be back for me |
| 19:49.41 | numist | yay code |
| 19:49.59 | numist | :) |
| 19:50.04 | numist | get my mail yet? |
| 19:50.55 | gonkulator | nope |
| 19:51.09 | gonkulator | did the package come? |
| 20:01.22 | numist | nope |
| 20:01.34 | numist | was just guessing that a business envelope would fly faster |
| 20:01.35 | gonkulator | hmm.. ok |
| 20:01.51 | numist | havent checked today yet though |
| 20:01.53 | numist | might be here |
| 20:01.57 | gonkulator | so it should be there today or tomorrow |
| 20:02.03 | numist | if so, I bloody need it... :/ |
| 20:02.16 | numist | also need to see if my motherboard is the source of my problems or not :/ |
| 20:02.37 | *** join/#tacobeam samy (n=samy@ip24-250-22-152.ri.ri.cox.net) |
| 20:02.47 | gonkulator | nod |
| 20:03.04 | gonkulator | well, once you get it, I expect that it will take about 30 minutes to get through the duct tape |
| 20:04.38 | gonkulator | maybe 45 minutes... |
| 20:04.48 | gonkulator | it was only a dollar and a half to ship too |
| 20:15.33 | nullpuppy | ok, everything is mixed, waiting for the boil to start to add the boiling hops ;) |
| 20:15.37 | nullpuppy | this is fun ;) |
| 20:16.02 | *** join/#tacobeam SecretMethod70 (n=SecretMe@c-67-173-67-244.hsd1.il.comcast.net) |
| 20:16.34 | gonkulator | nullpuppy: home brew? |
| 20:16.44 | numist | gonkulator: Ive got bolt cutters, would that work? |
| 20:16.56 | gonkulator | numist: its duct tape |
| 20:17.06 | numist | hrm |
| 20:17.15 | nullpuppy | gonkulator: yup :) |
| 20:17.21 | scanlime | nullpuppy: :) |
| 20:17.29 | scanlime | nullpuppy: you need to send us all free samples once this is done |
| 20:17.34 | scanlime | assuming it doesn't suck ;) |
| 20:17.39 | nullpuppy | http://www.nulldomain.com/ and http://gallery.nulldomain.com/v/Photography/Homebrew/Weissbier :) |
| 20:17.41 | gonkulator | nullpuppy: a buddy of mine made an amber ale that was incredible |
| 20:17.45 | nullpuppy | scanlime: hehe, yeah :) |
| 20:18.14 | nullpuppy | the malt/grain mix thats heating up right now has one hell of smell |
| 20:18.22 | nullpuppy | its awesome |
| 20:18.27 | numist | nice |
| 20:18.33 | nullpuppy | nice wheat smell :) |
| 20:18.59 | numist | I hope my epia isnt dead :( |
| 20:19.13 | gonkulator | numist: does that mean the package came? |
| 20:19.14 | numist | I need to tear apart the minipc and do some debugging |
| 20:19.24 | numist | gonkulator: Im still at work, I have no idea if it got there or not |
| 20:19.29 | gonkulator | oh, ok |
| 20:19.30 | numist | but I have smaller ram to test it with at home |
| 20:19.36 | numist | just havent taken it apart yet to see |
| 20:19.40 | gonkulator | gotcha |
| 20:19.41 | numist | and besides, a gig is a good thing either way |
| 20:20.02 | scanlime | you have a basement? |
| 20:22.55 | numist | yay basements |
| 20:23.11 | nullpuppy | i need a basement ;( |
| 20:24.19 | gonkulator | :) |
| 20:25.17 | numist | lol |
| 20:25.55 | scanlime | gonkulator: are you back at your parents' house, or is this one of those crazy apartments/houses that has a basement? |
| 20:26.41 | ChipX86 | a basement would be cool. You could conduct all kinds of horrible, horrible experiments down there |
| 20:27.21 | nullpuppy | hehe |
| 20:27.28 | numist | I used to have a basement all to myself.. it was really leet |
| 20:27.36 | ToyKeeper | I live in a basement. |
| 20:27.36 | scanlime | I lived in the basement |
| 20:27.41 | scanlime | :) |
| 20:27.55 | ToyKeeper | This house was laid out so that the master bedroom is in the basement. :) |
| 20:28.03 | scanlime | see, that's cheating |
| 20:28.05 | numist | nice |
| 20:28.17 | scanlime | I just lived in a pseudo-room in the mostly finished basement fashioned out of floor to cieling bookcases |
| 20:28.33 | numist | my house was laid out so the basement was a giant room with a couch, giant desk, bedroom separate, bathroom separate, fridge, pinball table, and 'precision-calibrated robotics table' |
| 20:28.41 | numist | read: pool table :D |
| 20:28.47 | scanlime | hah |
| 20:28.57 | numist | it was the size of upstairs, and it was all mine :D |
| 20:29.11 | numist | now I pay for my own place.. damn I wish I lived with my parents still :P |
| 20:29.16 | ChipX86 | yay, Zoidberg's Pajamas |
| 20:29.33 | ChipX86 | :( |
| 20:29.37 | nullpuppy | my house is only one floor, no attic or basement |
| 20:29.45 | scanlime | I think it's just too darn big |
| 20:29.47 | ChipX86 | ok, 10 bugs on my list |
| 20:29.51 | ChipX86 | let's see how fast I can get through them |
| 20:29.56 | numist | hehe |
| 20:30.18 | nullpuppy | mmm, pastrami, turkey, american and swiss on wheat |
| 20:30.21 | ToyKeeper | One of my roommates lives in the other half of the basement... one lives on the main floor, and the other two share the top floor. |
| 20:30.22 | nullpuppy | lunch is good |
| 20:31.06 | nullpuppy | the wort is all foamy |
| 20:31.10 | nullpuppy | no boil yet :( |
| 20:31.24 | nullpuppy | damn, this is gonna be cutting it close to getting to work on time... |
| 20:31.29 | nullpuppy | crap |
| 20:31.54 | ChipX86 | disk size of 16GB.. ugh.. |
| 20:33.36 | gonkulator | scanlime: I'm cleaning out my parent's basement so that I can move all my stuff out |
| 20:33.43 | numist | ToyKeeper: longer than you want to wait |
| 20:34.14 | nullpuppy | ack! |
| 20:34.16 | nullpuppy | i spoke to soon |
| 20:34.29 | ChipX86 | ? |
| 20:34.41 | ChipX86 | scanlime: congrats. You got on the quips page |
| 20:34.59 | ChipX86 | we need an RSS feed for that |
| 20:35.00 | scanlime | I did? |
| 20:35.03 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 20:35.08 | ChipX86 | http://bugzilla/quips.cgi?action=show |
| 20:35.27 | numist | it says host could not be found ;) |
| 20:35.30 | ChipX86 | :) |
| 20:35.35 | nullpuppy | i'm going to need a bigger pot |
| 20:35.42 | scanlime | ChipX86: haha |
| 20:35.53 | scanlime | who put that there I wonder? |
| 20:35.56 | ChipX86 | no clue |
| 20:35.59 | ChipX86 | wasn't me |
| 20:36.02 | *** join/#tacobeam Ca1 (n=cae@bi01p1.co.us.ibm.com) |
| 20:36.09 | ChipX86 | it's Ca1 |
| 20:36.10 | ChipX86 | ! |
| 20:36.11 | gonkulator | Ca1? |
| 20:36.14 | scanlime | oh and what a great nasty nasty hack that was |
| 20:36.23 | Ca1 | :P |
| 20:36.37 | numist | what quip? |
| 20:36.58 | scanlime | "...our most recent solution was a filesystem-level JBOD (using a nasty nasty hack that involves a userspace NFS server written in Python) and frequent backups to DVD." |
| 20:37.15 | nullpuppy | that was insane |
| 20:37.18 | numist | haha, that was navi |
| 20:37.19 | nullpuppy | the boil just kind of came |
| 20:37.21 | scanlime | yep |
| 20:37.23 | nullpuppy | then i added the hops |
| 20:37.26 | nullpuppy | then it like.. boiled over |
| 20:37.31 | numist | nullpuppy: nice :P |
| 20:38.05 | scanlime | hah |
| 20:38.56 | nullpuppy | will need to be more prepared next time and have a second person here.. |
| 20:39.02 | nullpuppy | i'm missed a couple cool pictures ;( |
| 20:39.10 | darth_mall | bad nullpuppy |
| 20:39.13 | darth_mall | go to your room |
| 20:39.30 | nullpuppy | but then the beer won't get made :( |
| 20:39.37 | numist | bad nullpuppy, stay in the kitchen |
| 20:39.46 | numist | :D |
| 20:40.03 | nullpuppy | haha |
| 20:45.08 | numist | god whoever wrote this... what awkward code |
| 20:48.48 | ChipX86 | cute. If you set your font to Vera Sans Italic, mnemonics on 'q' and 'p' and other chars will go away |
| 20:49.20 | numist | d'oh |
| 20:51.18 | ChipX86 | this isn't a major bug, imho, but the QA guy reported it because he likes everything on his box to be italics |
| 20:51.48 | scanlime | wow. gtk? |
| 20:51.52 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 20:51.54 | ChipX86 | try it |
| 20:52.04 | ChipX86 | set to Vera Sans Italic and look at, say, a Quit menu item |
| 20:52.24 | pagefault | someone is donating me an xbox to port zsnes to it |
| 20:52.25 | pagefault | heh |
| 20:52.56 | *** join/#tacobeam orchid (n=bzgirl@unaffiliated/orchid) |
| 20:52.59 | ChipX86 | it's very much a Vera Sans issue |
| 20:53.01 | numist | pagefault: nice! |
| 20:53.03 | ChipX86 | other fonts are working fine |
| 20:53.06 | scanlime | ChipX86: it only affects lowercase? |
| 20:53.08 | pagefault | heh |
| 20:53.10 | ChipX86 | scanlime: yeah |
| 20:53.18 | ChipX86 | seems so |
| 20:53.43 | scanlime | where do you find a lowercase quit menu item? :P |
| 20:53.46 | ChipX86 | oh |
| 20:53.50 | ChipX86 | I'm wrong, sorry |
| 20:53.52 | pagefault | he's moding it for me too |
| 20:53.54 | ChipX86 | 'Q' :) |
| 20:54.02 | scanlime | works here then |
| 20:54.13 | ChipX86 | hrm |
| 20:54.15 | ChipX86 | ok |
| 20:54.28 | ChipX86 | can you go into the New VM wizard and go to the last page and see if you can see the mnemonic for "Split disk into 2GB" ? |
| 20:54.50 | scanlime | yep |
| 20:54.53 | ChipX86 | huh |
| 20:54.57 | ChipX86 | what distro are you running again? |
| 20:55.00 | scanlime | ubuntu hoary |
| 20:55.03 | ChipX86 | huh. |
| 20:55.08 | ChipX86 | well.. hmm |
| 20:55.17 | scanlime | all-italics is interesting... |
| 20:55.19 | ChipX86 | I can reproduce this on Ubuntu Hoary and SuSE 9.3 |
| 20:55.29 | ChipX86 | I wonder what the difference is |
| 20:55.38 | numist | hrm, fixed one of our ui bugs, at least :/ |
| 20:55.45 | scanlime | oh, wait |
| 20:55.45 | ChipX86 | which theme? |
| 20:55.57 | scanlime | I had this set to "sans", not "bitstream vera sans" |
| 20:56.05 | ChipX86 | oh, Sans did it too. It's an alias |
| 20:56.09 | scanlime | mmkay |
| 20:56.13 | scanlime | clearlooks theme |
| 20:56.15 | ChipX86 | same |
| 20:56.19 | ChipX86 | hmm. |
| 20:56.27 | ChipX86 | font size? |
| 20:56.31 | scanlime | 10 |
| 20:56.35 | ChipX86 | hrm. |
| 20:56.38 | ChipX86 | *shrug* |
| 20:57.10 | ChipX86 | I'm not worrying about it. |
| 20:57.14 | Cae | home :) |
| 20:57.21 | ChipX86 | yay |
| 20:57.27 | ToyKeeper | http://toykeeper.net/tmp/italic.jpg |
| 20:57.40 | ToyKeeper | What's it supposed to look like? |
| 20:57.49 | ChipX86 | the Q is supposed to not show a mnemonic |
| 20:57.54 | ChipX86 | interesting |
| 20:58.01 | ChipX86 | I'm really not worrying about it then |
| 20:58.11 | ChipX86 | it's just a curiousity now :) |
| 20:59.41 | scanlime | must be a virus |
| 20:59.45 | scanlime | he has an infected font |
| 20:59.50 | ChipX86 | :) |
| 20:59.50 | ChipX86 | and me |
| 21:00.09 | scanlime | yes. better check your libfreetype2 for backdoors in the hinting interpreter |
| 21:00.34 | ChipX86 | I sure hope the NIS server doesn't have libfreetype2 on it :( |
| 21:00.49 | scanlime | hehe |
| 21:01.14 | scanlime | are you still having trouble with exit14? I haven't noticed any problems actually |
| 21:01.26 | ChipX86 | not now, but earlier vmweb/~christian was gone |
| 21:02.06 | scanlime | I probably wouldn't notice if NIS went down.. I use NIS, but I have a local passwd line for the 'micah' user since I have to override the homdir |
| 21:02.10 | scanlime | er, homedir |
| 21:02.21 | ChipX86 | I don't even use NIS at all |
| 21:02.41 | scanlime | I like having UIDs and such for other people on exit14 |
| 21:02.52 | scanlime | and it lets others log into my box to grab files if they need to |
| 21:03.25 | nullpuppy | afdljaskfdj;asdfksa |
| 21:03.30 | nullpuppy | god dammit |
| 21:03.37 | nullpuppy | i hate it when i do that |
| 21:03.41 | numist | ? |
| 21:03.45 | scanlime | don't we all |
| 21:03.46 | numist | dropped the camera in the beer? |
| 21:03.49 | scanlime | haha |
| 21:04.09 | ChipX86 | I do that too :( |
| 21:04.21 | numist | d'oh |
| 21:04.26 | ToyKeeper | :w often? |
| 21:05.08 | numist | heh |
| 21:06.15 | ToyKeeper | I've got a bad :w habit... it takes a lot of effort to not :w on IRC every few lines... |
| 21:06.39 | scanlime | C-x C-s is more annoying on IRC :P |
| 21:06.58 | ToyKeeper | ... that just brings up my server list. |
| 21:07.06 | scanlime | xoff character :P |
| 21:07.23 | scanlime | software flow control is probably the feature I'd most like to see dropped from all unixes |
| 21:08.11 | numist | Ive thought I was in screen, and hit ^a c, and replaced all my code with 'c' before... thank god for undo |
| 21:08.29 | ToyKeeper | Heh. |
| 21:08.49 | ToyKeeper | I hate screen's default ^a... ~ is much less annoying. |
| 21:09.43 | scanlime | ick. ~ is for ssh |
| 21:10.39 | ToyKeeper | About the only time I've needed ~ in ssh was to kill a connection... \n~. becomes \n~`. |
| 21:11.22 | ChipX86 | yay for bugs that are a result of the user not installing the product right. |
| 21:11.40 | Veight | kergoth: turn your phone off you keep calling mom lol |
| 21:11.54 | ChipX86 | ohh. |
| 21:11.59 | ChipX86 | no, this is Philip's fault |
| 21:14.14 | nullpuppy | there we go, draft saved, time to go double check the wprt |
| 21:14.15 | nullpuppy | *wort |
| 21:15.28 | nullpuppy | soo close |
| 21:16.39 | numist | ChipX86: placing blame doesnt help problems get solved </mother> |
| 21:19.28 | CIA-5 | spacegrant: 03dkuester * r1646 10mck/PyMCK/Ground/System/Synchronizer.py: pandas |
| 21:25.58 | ChipX86 | Regis and Kelly are running around like little schoolboys any time something MacOS X-related happens |
| 21:27.07 | scanlime | lurgy, master of informative commit messages |
| 21:28.14 | nullpuppy | 5 minutes left! |
| 21:28.47 | ChipX86 | scanlime: :( |
| 21:30.34 | darth_mall | doh |
| 21:30.59 | scanlime | is it flying out of the engineering center office tower? |
| 21:31.06 | scanlime | hehe |
| 21:31.07 | scanlime | yep |
| 21:31.29 | scanlime | frustrated ex-spacegrant employees think alike... |
| 21:31.46 | scanlime | why not? |
| 21:31.46 | darth_mall | not since I became an ex-employee ^^ |
| 21:31.50 | scanlime | :) |
| 21:32.34 | ChipX86 | I hate suse. |
| 21:33.02 | kergoth | down with yast! |
| 21:33.23 | ChipX86 | it's just such a broken distro |
| 21:33.27 | ChipX86 | all these suse bugs coming in.. |
| 21:33.39 | pagefault | I got a sweet epic ring just now |
| 21:33.47 | kergoth | nice |
| 21:34.37 | darth_mall | ChipX86: you should just blow it up |
| 21:35.20 | ChipX86 | darth_mall: I should! |
| 21:35.31 | darth_mall | yeah... =\ |
| 21:35.49 | pagefault | http://www.thotbott.com/?i=10465 |
| 21:35.52 | pagefault | http://www.thotbott.com/?i=10465 |
| 21:35.53 | pagefault | oops |
| 21:35.54 | pagefault | thats that I got |
| 21:38.18 | gonkulator | pagefault: the second one works, but the first is broken |
| 21:38.29 | pagefault | really? |
| 21:38.41 | ChipX86 | :P |
| 21:43.04 | scanlime | hi purple_cow |
| 21:43.15 | nullpuppy | and i wait |
| 21:43.16 | nullpuppy | again |
| 21:43.27 | scanlime | purple_cow: http://zero.navi.cx/gallery/navi-usb |
| 21:43.31 | ChipX86 | I just recommended to Kelly that we get a PPC NES emulator running through the PPC emulation in the VM :) |
| 21:43.40 | scanlime | purple_cow: I mounted the fan last night |
| 21:43.59 | scanlime | ChipX86: :) |
| 21:44.14 | scanlime | ChipX86: or virtualpc... |
| 21:44.17 | nullpuppy | ppc emulation? |
| 21:44.22 | ChipX86 | scanlime: haha |
| 21:44.30 | purple_cow | scanlime: cool. you need more photos |
| 21:44.36 | scanlime | purple_cow: yes |
| 21:44.47 | scanlime | purple_cow: also, I can bend acrylic with my hot air soldering iron |
| 21:44.52 | scanlime | but it doesn't quite come out straight :P |
| 21:46.01 | purple_cow | scanlime: very nice :) |
| 21:46.09 | purple_cow | you just need a last :) |
| 21:46.23 | scanlime | purple_cow: that box is just going to have a DC power port on the back and a single USB type-B port. I have a micro-atx supply, but it should be mounted external so I can run another drive box and an NSLU2 off the same supply |
| 21:46.28 | darth_mall | I need to set up my nslu2 |
| 21:46.28 | scanlime | last? |
| 21:46.49 | purple_cow | scanlime: basically a mould |
| 21:47.02 | purple_cow | but you put things over it instead of filling it |
| 21:47.02 | scanlime | purple_cow: well, the problem was I couldn't heat the plastic evenly with my soldering iron |
| 21:47.28 | scanlime | I'd basically keep it under tension, then heat it back and forth across the area I wanted to bend and it would gradually release the pressure |
| 21:47.37 | scanlime | used a straight-edge and some weights to keep it mostly straight |
| 21:47.39 | scanlime | but it wasn't perfect |
| 21:47.45 | scanlime | I need a strip heater |
| 21:48.01 | scanlime | big hot thing you can just lay across a plastic sheet to heat it evenly |
| 21:48.09 | scanlime | then it bends easily |
| 21:49.31 | numist | scanlime: you were asking after the aluminum I used in frame construction.. heres the manufacturer site... awful site but the beams are extremely strong (theyre machined, not cast) http://www.aerocool.com.tw/aerocool-files-v3/lubic/accessory.htm |
| 21:49.56 | numist | main complaint is that the mounts are metric, and the screws are aluminum... Ive sheared the head off a screw already on that kit ^^ :( |
| 21:51.27 | scanlime | purple_cow: how's the vacation going so far? |
| 21:51.30 | scanlime | numist: I don't see prices |
| 21:51.44 | numist | scanlime: a full case kit runs from $100 - $150, iirc |
| 21:51.49 | scanlime | ow |
| 21:52.13 | purple_cow | scanlime: pretty good. today is cold and rainy, so i'm working |
| 21:52.19 | numist | had enough hardware for the minipc and the raid array though... got parts left over too |
| 21:52.30 | purple_cow | then lots of driving again tomorrow |
| 21:52.37 | scanlime | purple_cow: ah, fun |
| 21:52.43 | scanlime | purple_cow: nice pictures so far :) |
| 21:52.47 | numist | well, I initially got it for a case, but my roommates cat fell in and fried a stick of ram... my plans of open-cased machines died that day |
| 21:53.01 | numist | 3 months ago was the first time Id used them since, so they are scrap to me now too :P |
| 21:53.08 | purple_cow | scanlime: heh. i'm hesitant to upload the rest because zero is running low on disk space :P |
| 21:53.08 | scanlime | ah |
| 21:53.13 | numist | my kits about 18 months old |
| 21:53.14 | scanlime | purple_cow: nod |
| 21:53.40 | numist | anywho, back to work |
| 21:53.43 | scanlime | purple_cow: I've been thinking about moving the full-size images to another server (maybe my nslu2) then just keeping the 640x480 images on zero |
| 21:54.17 | scanlime | that would give us tons o' space |
| 21:56.32 | scanlime | could even move and symlink images nightly in a cron job so that uploading and all that is still just as fast |
| 21:57.11 | scanlime | it'd be slow, but people don't view those nearly as often |
| 21:57.16 | scanlime | and they take way more space |
| 21:57.51 | scanlime | heck, we could even cache things so that recently viewed full size images stay on zero but older ones get deleted after they're archived elsewhere |
| 21:58.49 | darth_mall | hahaha... I love that Jack and Meg White are in "Coffee and Cigarrettes" |
| 21:59.00 | darth_mall | hehehe |
| 21:59.04 | darth_mall | and Jack has a tesla coil |
| 21:59.14 | pagefault | http://www.thotbott.com/?i=10465 |
| 21:59.16 | pagefault | oops |
| 21:59.21 | purple_cow | or....flickr |
| 21:59.26 | pagefault | http://www.thotbott.com/?i=10465 |
| 21:59.27 | pagefault | got that |
| 21:59.30 | pagefault | http://www.thotbott.com/?i=5489 |
| 21:59.31 | pagefault | bah mosue |
| 21:59.32 | pagefault | http://www.thotbott.com/?i=5489 |
| 21:59.35 | pagefault | stupid mosue |
| 21:59.37 | pagefault | mouse |
| 21:59.38 | pagefault | rgh |
| 21:59.42 | kergoth | .. |
| 21:59.50 | pagefault | middle mouse button is sticky |
| 21:59.58 | scanlime | purple_cow: heh, you seem to have lost some flickr angst recently |
| 22:00.43 | numist | pagefault: still having that problem? |
| 22:00.44 | numist | boo |
| 22:00.51 | pagefault | yeah :/ |
| 22:00.59 | pagefault | when I get paid I am buying a new mouse |
| 22:01.06 | file | well that was interesting |
| 22:01.40 | scanlime | purple_cow: I'm rewiring navi's old removable disk bays so that when you lock the disk in it powers up the USB interface. Real hotplug :) |
| 22:02.52 | darth_mall | Jack is a much better actor than his sister |
| 22:03.08 | purple_cow | scanlime: i had flickr angst? |
| 22:03.14 | darth_mall | purple_cow: duh |
| 22:03.17 | darth_mall | ^^ |
| 22:03.54 | numist | scanlime is much fancier than me |
| 22:04.14 | purple_cow | scanlime: iirc i only said that were we to use flickr, you weren't allowed to start talking about tag clouds and folksonomies |
| 22:04.24 | scanlime | hah. ok. |
| 22:05.15 | purple_cow | ooh, bbiab. have to go take some cloud photos |
| 22:06.31 | nullpuppy | fermentation has started! |
| 22:06.44 | numist | yay! |
| 22:08.00 | kergoth | woot |
| 22:14.26 | nullpuppy | hrm, bottom of the pot looks all stained and spotty now :( wtf |
| 22:16.23 | darth_mall | ok. new thing: during an uncomfortable pause in a conversation, ask the other fellow if he's gay ^^ |
| 22:16.37 | numist | ... |
| 22:16.57 | purple_cow | darth_mall: hehe |
| 22:17.09 | darth_mall | Coffee and Cigarettes is a rather funny film |
| 22:18.50 | nullpuppy | http://www.nulldomain.com/node/84 |
| 22:18.55 | scanlime | huh |
| 22:19.25 | darth_mall | oh noes! |
| 22:19.27 | nullpuppy | going to organize the pictures now, will upload when I get to work |
| 22:19.35 | nullpuppy | so. those should be up in, we'll say 2 hrs :) |
| 22:20.29 | numist | :) |
| 22:20.39 | ChipX86 | ughhhghgh |
| 22:21.05 | ChipX86 | Joey wants to implement a hack instead of my clean design because "it works fine," except it's going to lead to bugs that his original wizard framework had that I spent ages fixing |
| 22:21.16 | kergoth | :( |
| 22:22.06 | pagefault | time to play FEAR |
| 22:22.12 | pagefault | this game is cool |
| 22:22.23 | pagefault | the AI is so smart |
| 22:22.30 | darth_mall | ChipX86: I love that. "my solutions less clean, but it works!" |
| 22:22.51 | scanlime | yeah |
| 22:22.54 | scanlime | I'm getting the same thing :( |
| 22:23.14 | scanlime | I have a nice abstract API for this, and chris wants to replace it with bare bitshifts and such |
| 22:24.12 | darth_mall | mmm... bitshifts |
| 22:25.01 | darth_mall | yay! Bill Murray! |
| 22:25.18 | ChipX86 | darth_mall: yeah. |
| 22:25.23 | ChipX86 | it's how he writes all his code |
| 22:27.34 | scanlime | hehe. My manager told me to hold my ground in this argument with chris ;) |
| 22:27.53 | darth_mall | scanlime: I got your back, yo! |
| 22:28.17 | purple_cow | hmm. flickr doesn't give you full-size images unless you have a pro account... |
| 22:29.10 | nullpuppy | damn.. 42 pictures :) |
| 22:29.51 | scanlime | yay. registered for my first work-sponsored conference :) |
| 22:29.57 | ChipX86 | cool, whihc? |
| 22:30.03 | scanlime | Intel Developer Forum |
| 22:30.11 | scanlime | I think it's fairly free and/or cheap for us, but still cool |
| 22:30.17 | scanlime | it's in SF |
| 22:30.43 | scanlime | August 23-25 |
| 22:31.35 | scanlime | ooh, except when the about box crashes it |
| 22:32.20 | scanlime | if Intel can afford San Francisco, why can't SIGGRAPH? |
| 22:35.56 | nullpuppy | yay, i love gallery2 |
| 22:36.10 | nullpuppy | ok. gonna get ready for work, then head to work, then i'll upload pictures :) |
| 22:36.21 | purple_cow | SIGGRAPH is a hell of a lot bigger than IDF |
| 22:36.27 | nullpuppy | http://gallery.nulldomain.com/v/Photography/Homebrew/Weissbier/Brew_Day/ |
| 22:36.34 | nullpuppy | they will be there in about an hour ;) |
| 22:37.53 | scanlime | purple_cow: more money to pay for the building... |
| 22:38.08 | scanlime | ah well. once I've gone to this I'll be able to compare the two |
| 22:38.13 | scanlime | right now I have no idea really |
| 22:39.08 | purple_cow | scanlime: i'm sure IDF doesn't fill the entire convention center |
| 22:39.24 | purple_cow | so they probably don't rent the entire space |
| 22:42.42 | *** join/#tacobeam StrFox (i=StrFox33@aden2-176-dhcp.resnet.colorado.edu) |
| 22:43.17 | slimspace | quit |
| 22:43.25 | scanlime | iiih |
| 22:43.28 | scanlime | er, ooooh |
| 22:43.35 | scanlime | wireless USB will be there |
| 22:44.11 | scanlime | there's also quite a lot on extending battery life on mobile applications |
| 22:45.55 | numist | wireless usb? |
| 22:46.05 | numist | hmm.. only a power cord to the disk array |
| 22:46.17 | scanlime | hehe |
| 22:47.01 | scanlime | mmm |
| 22:47.08 | *** join/#tacobeam samy (n=samy@ip24-250-22-152.ri.ri.cox.net) |
| 22:47.14 | scanlime | http://www.malibugrandprix.com/redwood/ <-- our team is going here tomorrow to race :) |
| 22:47.52 | ChipX86 | cool! :) |
| 22:48.10 | ChipX86 | what time are you coming back? |
| 22:48.36 | scanlime | we have no idea how long it will take, but we're planning on eating lunch afterwards |
| 22:48.42 | ChipX86 | ok |
| 22:48.44 | scanlime | so sometime mid-afternoon |
| 22:48.47 | ChipX86 | we're doing gaming at abour 4-5 tomorrow |
| 22:48.48 | scanlime | I guess |
| 22:48.53 | scanlime | neat |
| 22:49.34 | gonkulator | thats a happy friday if I have heard one |
| 22:49.54 | scanlime | ... |
| 22:49.56 | ChipX86 | I was coordinating with a windows developer on my team about getting a label and icon placed somewhere. She was saying how that's a lot of work, because I'd have the update the positions of all the widgets |
| 22:50.05 | ChipX86 | gonkulator: that's a typical VMware friday |
| 22:50.06 | scanlime | ChipX86: ew |
| 22:50.22 | ChipX86 | scanlime: she didn't realize that only silly Windows people have to worry about that kind of stuff |
| 22:50.58 | scanlime | oh, lunch tomorrow should be sushi |
| 22:50.58 | scanlime | nice |
| 22:51.02 | ChipX86 | nice |
| 22:51.28 | scanlime | hehe, just thinking about that roe yesterday still makes my eyes water |
| 22:51.37 | ChipX86 | haha |
| 22:51.38 | scanlime | never had sushi with that much wasabi in it, much less roe |
| 22:54.07 | ChipX86 | ughhgh |
| 22:54.15 | ChipX86 | we're bumping all guest OSes to a 8GB minimum disk |
| 22:54.33 | scanlime | purple_cow: this had lots of wasabi in it for some reason |
| 22:54.54 | scanlime | I don't think I'll ever order it again, but it was worth trying |
| 22:56.10 | darth_mall | uhoh... my laptop is sad |
| 22:56.26 | darth_mall | shit... |
| 22:57.09 | purple_cow | cool |
| 22:57.18 | gonkulator | w00t |
| 22:57.26 | gonkulator | newegg's replacement disk just came |
| 22:57.58 | pagefault | weird science |
| 22:58.06 | ChipX86 | yay |
| 22:58.10 | ChipX86 | movie or series? |
| 22:58.23 | pagefault | movie |
| 22:58.26 | ChipX86 | yay |
| 22:58.44 | pagefault | that movie is good |
| 22:59.44 | purple_cow | it's a good song too |
| 22:59.48 | ChipX86 | yep |
| 23:00.27 | darth_mall | yay Oingo Boingo ^^ |
| 23:06.46 | pagefault | bouncy |
| 23:12.52 | ChipX86 | we're going to go push the duck down the waterfall. brb |
| 23:14.43 | purple_cow | ChipX86: that was a very strange sentence |
| 23:15.04 | purple_cow | darth_mall: http://www.cs.colorado.edu/~sanders/cs4308/selection/preview.html#p11 |
| 23:15.11 | purple_cow | time to give freevo a new UI? :) |
| 23:15.30 | scanlime | gah |
| 23:15.32 | scanlime | lucky bastards |
| 23:15.45 | purple_cow | hehehe |
| 23:18.04 | darth_mall | purple_cow: awsome |
| 23:18.40 | purple_cow | yep. looks like a sweet project |
| 23:18.48 | purple_cow | i bet there will be a lot of competition for it though :( |
| 23:18.57 | darth_mall | we'll just kill them |
| 23:19.27 | darth_mall | fucking evo |
| 23:19.27 | darth_mall | grrr |
| 23:20.04 | purple_cow | hmm. gnumeric's about box is nearly as CPU intensive as fyre's |
| 23:20.52 | file[laptop] | USPS tracking sucks royally |
| 23:21.04 | ChipX86 | :( |
| 23:21.14 | gonkulator | SATA is easy, right? |
| 23:21.21 | gonkulator | plug in SATA cable, plug in power, life is good |
| 23:21.27 | gonkulator | right? |
| 23:21.55 | file[laptop] | gonkulator: nope |
| 23:22.03 | gonkulator | what else is there? |
| 23:22.09 | file[laptop] | you have to sacrifice a chicken |
| 23:22.13 | scanlime | purple_cow: huh. not as pretty though... |
| 23:22.14 | file[laptop] | it's written in the owner's manual |
| 23:22.50 | scanlime | oh wow |
| 23:22.57 | scanlime | fyre's about box runs sooo smooth on my work machine |
| 23:23.03 | file[laptop] | I saw a 250GB SATA drive at Costco today for $179.99 CAD, it was rather decent |
| 23:23.39 | file[laptop] | mmm |
| 23:23.40 | purple_cow | scanlime: no, but a neat idea :) |
| 23:24.06 | scanlime | this is so pretty |
| 23:24.29 | purple_cow | hmm |
| 23:26.56 | scanlime | hmm, it got late |
| 23:27.20 | ChipX86 | it's only 4:30 |
| 23:27.39 | ChipX86 | you can still see sunlight :) |
| 23:27.42 | scanlime | yeah |
| 23:27.45 | scanlime | it's later than it feels |
| 23:27.50 | ChipX86 | ah, yea |
| 23:27.56 | ChipX86 | I still have to get my new video card in.. |
| 23:28.04 | pagefault | hey kergoth whats the name of that mod that shows you what the item looks like |
| 23:28.09 | scanlime | I was horrified when I couldn't find the second duck this morning :( |
| 23:28.12 | pagefault | if you hover the mouse over the item in your inventory it shows you in 3d |
| 23:28.15 | scanlime | then I found it over at the other end of the pond |
| 23:28.32 | ChipX86 | scanlime: yeah, we looked for it for a while too |
| 23:28.41 | ChipX86 | we still need to go duck nudging |
| 23:28.52 | scanlime | duck nudging? |
| 23:28.59 | ChipX86 | we're going to nudge the duck down the waterfall |
| 23:29.06 | ChipX86 | we were going to do it a few mins ago, but people got distracted |
| 23:29.07 | scanlime | hehe |
| 23:30.00 | scanlime | what the.. |
| 23:30.04 | scanlime | this email has a graphical smiley |
| 23:30.10 | ChipX86 | yep |
| 23:30.17 | ChipX86 | thunderbird does that |
| 23:30.20 | scanlime | so you see it too, it isn't just thunderbird being silly? |
| 23:30.21 | scanlime | oh. |
| 23:30.23 | scanlime | grrrr |
| 23:30.31 | gonkulator | yep, its dead |
| 23:31.09 | file[laptop] | angrily? |
| 23:31.16 | scanlime | ChipX86: I don't know why, but I can't stand graphical smileys |
| 23:31.32 | ChipX86 | nod |
| 23:31.38 | scanlime | they just dont' look like smileys any more to me |
| 23:31.41 | ChipX86 | I've just gotten used to them, but I prefer text ones |
| 23:34.11 | ChipX86 | oohhh |
| 23:34.17 | ChipX86 | my GeForce FX 5500 offers better photos! |
| 23:34.36 | scanlime | ??? |
| 23:34.41 | ChipX86 | heh |
| 23:34.53 | scanlime | I should sell USB cables that offer better photos |
| 23:34.54 | ChipX86 | in its happy list at the top of things it's good at, it claims "Better Photos" |
| 23:35.43 | ChipX86 | alt-printscreen rocks |
| 23:35.46 | ChipX86 | how did I not know of this before |
| 23:35.51 | purple_cow | in windows? |
| 23:35.54 | ChipX86 | in linux |
| 23:35.58 | purple_cow | what's it do? |
| 23:36.01 | scanlime | ooh, cute |
| 23:36.08 | ChipX86 | takes a screenshot of the active window and puts a shadow on it |
| 23:36.11 | purple_cow | oh |
| 23:36.20 | scanlime | maybe because it's an undiscoverable feature? :) |
| 23:36.23 | ChipX86 | "Screenshot-New Virtual Machine Wizard.png" |
| 23:36.25 | ChipX86 | neat |
| 23:36.28 | ChipX86 | scanlime: yep |
| 23:36.36 | scanlime | Screenshot-emacs@localhost.localdomain.png |
| 23:36.41 | purple_cow | ChipX86: awesome |
| 23:36.41 | scanlime | :P |
| 23:39.21 | purple_cow | oh wait! |
| 23:39.30 | purple_cow | i can get clayton lewis to write my 3rd recommendation letter |
| 23:40.44 | purple_cow | eek |
| 23:40.45 | purple_cow | david@kirby ~/documents/images/tetons-2005 $ du -shc . |
| 23:40.46 | purple_cow | 538M. |
| 23:41.05 | scanlime | I've got you beat with my italy pictures :) |
| 23:41.17 | scanlime | that was two full CD-Rs |
| 23:41.40 | gonkulator | w00t |
| 23:41.42 | purple_cow | how long were you there for, again? |
| 23:41.43 | scanlime | of course, that was two weeks and four people with cameras |
| 23:41.46 | scanlime | :P |
| 23:41.57 | purple_cow | :) |
| 23:42.12 | scanlime | lisa, ryan, and I were there for one week, christy for two |
| 23:42.13 | purple_cow | and i bet you didn't get any photos of dribbling mooses |
| 23:42.21 | scanlime | no mooses :( |
| 23:42.28 | scanlime | I think rome has no mosses |
| 23:42.30 | scanlime | er, mooses |
| 23:42.32 | scanlime | it makes me sad |
| 23:43.16 | purple_cow | huh, what the... |
| 23:43.25 | purple_cow | as i upload photos, disk usage on zero is going *down* |
| 23:43.52 | scanlime | it could be finding inconsistencies in the filesystem :) |
| 23:44.19 | kergoth | file[laptop]: ping |
| 23:44.31 | scanlime | I fsck'ed it after the migration, but who knows what happened when the database kerploded |
| 23:44.33 | purple_cow | oh wait, that's available space |
| 23:44.39 | ChipX86 | haha |
| 23:44.42 | scanlime | hehe |
| 23:44.43 | scanlime | whew |
| 23:44.54 | scanlime | oh |
| 23:44.55 | scanlime | and that's zero |
| 23:44.56 | scanlime | not flapjack |
| 23:45.00 | scanlime | zero never kerploded |
| 23:45.01 | scanlime | :P |
| 23:45.07 | kergoth | hrmph |
| 23:45.10 | purple_cow | hehe |
| 23:45.22 | purple_cow | good thing i'm not the only one with a brain that's going fuzzy |
| 23:45.32 | scanlime | yeah |
| 23:45.40 | scanlime | today hasn't been fun so far.. :P |
| 23:45.43 | kergoth | anyone know of a windows voip app (soft phone) that supports SIP (and perhaps IAX), not some proprietary bullshit, and which is generic enough to not be locked into their (often charged) services? |
| 23:45.45 | ChipX86 | scanlime: :( |
| 23:45.46 | purple_cow | 114 of 313 :) |
| 23:45.47 | kergoth | heh |
| 23:45.51 | scanlime | arguing code style with chris over email, and staring at windows driver code |
| 23:45.55 | darth_mall | purple_cow: my brain's been fuzzy for a while |
| 23:46.05 | purple_cow | darth_mall: great |
| 23:46.13 | darth_mall | ^^ |
| 23:46.30 | darth_mall | yay! first meeting with Liz and purple_cow on Monday ^^ |
| 23:46.43 | purple_cow | you're available at 3? neat |
| 23:46.49 | scanlime | the coffee has me wired, but not awake |
| 23:46.51 | numist | yay |
| 23:46.54 | purple_cow | don't be nervous |
| 23:46.55 | darth_mall | purple_cow: yeah, apparently I'm done with my classes on monday by 11am |
| 23:47.05 | purple_cow | hehe. i don't start until 12 :) |
| 23:47.16 | purple_cow | except on fridays, when i start at 8 >< |
| 23:47.20 | darth_mall | ouch |
| 23:47.47 | darth_mall | purple_cow: when do you get back into town? |
| 23:47.50 | purple_cow | don't tell anyone, but i think there's a good chance i won't make it to that class every week |
| 23:47.53 | purple_cow | darth_mall: tomorrow evening |
| 23:48.46 | purple_cow | the exact moment at which i must start cooking, because kendra's list on that evite offended me |
| 23:48.47 | darth_mall | neat |
| 23:48.57 | darth_mall | I was unable to find a list |
| 23:49.08 | purple_cow | as you were responding, it said "select something to bring" |
| 23:49.29 | darth_mall | ah |
| 23:49.53 | darth_mall | wow... my Tues. & Thurs. this semester are nice. don't start 'til after 12 |
| 23:50.41 | darth_mall | but if I get into UI design it's going to ruin Wed. nights for me ^^ |
| 23:50.45 | darth_mall | have class until 8pm |
| 23:51.00 | purple_cow | dribbling mooses!!! |
| 23:51.01 | purple_cow | http://zero.navi.cx/gallery/tetons-2005/IMG_0722 |
| 23:52.01 | scanlime | purple_cow: what are you bringing? |
| 23:52.27 | purple_cow | scanlime: i'm going to make pita chips, that roasted red pepper dip and fresh hummus |
| 23:52.53 | scanlime | purple_cow: yummy |
| 23:52.55 | purple_cow | but i need to do the red pepper dip the night before, so the serranos have a chance to mellow out a little |
| 23:54.28 | purple_cow | darth_mall: so the apartment thing is all settled with rich? |
| 23:54.37 | darth_mall | purple_cow: we are in good shape, I think |
| 23:54.48 | darth_mall | and when I went to leave the keys his cleaning lady was already there |
| 23:54.54 | darth_mall | and she said that it looked really good |
| 23:55.06 | scanlime | did he ever notice the missing bits of carpet in the living room? |
| 23:55.17 | darth_mall | something in the oven |
| 23:55.33 | darth_mall | looked like she was cleaning out that drawer underneath it or something |
| 23:55.38 | darth_mall | I didn't really stick around |
| 23:55.41 | purple_cow | drawer underneath? |
| 23:55.47 | darth_mall | yeah |
| 23:55.57 | darth_mall | that vent thing underneath the oven pulls out |
| 23:55.57 | purple_cow | there was a drawer underneath? :) |
| 23:56.07 | darth_mall | not sure if it's for storage or collecting dirty bits |
| 23:56.09 | darth_mall | but it pulls out |
| 23:56.24 | darth_mall | and she had it open and was scrubbing it when I was there |
| 23:56.37 | scanlime | I'm pretty sure it's just storage |
| 23:56.40 | darth_mall | but I expect we'll get a good portion of our deposit back, judging by her reacition |
| 23:56.50 | purple_cow | cool |
| 23:56.55 | scanlime | so no carpet repair? :) |
| 23:57.20 | scanlime | yikes |
| 23:57.21 | scanlime | "Session Title: |
| 23:57.23 | scanlime | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:57.37 | purple_cow | scanlime: i dunno. i went at it with a utility knife and loosened it up a bit so that the fibers around it pushed in further, and it wasn't really very noticible |
| 23:57.40 | darth_mall | scanlime: well, she'd only just gotten there, and I didn't really stick around beyond dropping off the keys |
| 23:57.48 | scanlime | ok |
| 23:57.51 | scanlime | cool |
| 23:58.09 | scanlime | sorry I forgot to take care of that before I left |
| 23:58.12 | darth_mall | besides, I'm not sure she handles that part of the deposit |
| 23:58.28 | purple_cow | i hadn't heard anything from rich other than "you need to get rid of your couch, since it's torn and nobody is going to take it, and it will cost you a lot if i have to get rid of it" |
| 23:58.28 | darth_mall | she does whatever cleaning she feels is necessary, charges Rich, and Rich takes it out of the deposit |
| 23:58.36 | numist | Im getting a sparc ultra 10 :D |
| 23:58.37 | darth_mall | as for looking for damages, I imagine Rich does that himself |
| 23:58.52 | scanlime | purple_cow: you have a torn couch? |
| 23:59.01 | purple_cow | i made sure to call back and point out that it wasn't our couch ;) |
| 23:59.08 | darth_mall | the one on the curb? |
| 23:59.12 | purple_cow | darth_mall: yeah |
| 23:59.15 | darth_mall | ok, good ^^ |
| 23:59.17 | scanlime | hmm |
| 23:59.30 | scanlime | I should look for some furniture |
| 23:59.36 | scanlime | need a coffee table at least |
| 23:59.41 | scanlime | and some kind of TV stand |
| 23:59.55 | darth_mall | Tom Waits is definitely an odd duck... |
