| 00:17.54 | scanlime | it's a good thing perforce is always advertising that they're so fast... |
| 00:18.40 | ChipX86 | yep. |
| 00:19.23 | scanlime | hungry... |
| 00:20.03 | ChipX86 | beware the cameras |
| 00:20.11 | ChipX86 | and the rat posion |
| 00:20.12 | ChipX86 | posion |
| 00:20.15 | ChipX86 | *sigh* |
| 00:20.38 | ChipX86 | I'm not attempting that a third time. My fingers are rebelling |
| 00:20.52 | gonkulator | poison? |
| 00:20.55 | ChipX86 | thank you |
| 00:20.59 | KeyserLaptop | any of all y'all using a linksys nslu2 or kuro box as a server? |
| 00:22.26 | scanlime | nslu2 |
| 00:22.58 | KeyserLaptop | like it pretty well? |
| 00:23.00 | scanlime | planning on setting one up as a file server soon.. but so far I've just used them for inputpipe and therm-client |
| 00:23.23 | scanlime | they're cute little machines. I don't know how well they perform for file serving, but they're really sweet as an ARM box with USB |
| 00:25.09 | KeyserLaptop | hmmm. 266mhz arm, with 32MB ram, vs the kuro box's 200mhz ppc 8241, and 64MB ram |
| 00:25.33 | scanlime | kuro? |
| 00:25.42 | KeyserLaptop | ooh, kuro box HG, 266Mhz 8241, and 128MB ram |
| 00:25.59 | KeyserLaptop | it was that thing that andersee endorsed a while back |
| 00:26.45 | scanlime | got a link? I'm not seeing anything obvious on google |
| 00:26.47 | KeyserLaptop | oh, it's got gigabit ethernet, too |
| 00:26.55 | KeyserLaptop | their website's store is down |
| 00:26.59 | KeyserLaptop | the forum is up, though |
| 00:27.17 | scanlime | it it just an embedded linux board, or is it a NAS solution of some sort? |
| 00:27.19 | KeyserLaptop | http://www.kurobox.com/ |
| 00:27.30 | KeyserLaptop | it's a NAS sold as the Buffalo Linkstation |
| 00:27.41 | scanlime | oh, buffalo |
| 00:27.57 | KeyserLaptop | but they want a developer community |
| 00:28.19 | ChipX86 | the teraserver is so cute when writing to disks |
| 00:28.50 | scanlime | I'm going to have a somewhat cute setup with these first 4 navi disks |
| 00:28.51 | ChipX86 | the leds are in this circle, and the access leds form end points of an X. When writing, a few will turn on and off, and it kind of dances around. It amuses me way too much |
| 00:28.58 | scanlime | :) |
| 00:29.14 | ChipX86 | like it'll go \ / X / |
| 00:29.35 | KeyserLaptop | ooh, that terastation is fancy |
| 00:29.36 | scanlime | neat |
| 00:33.09 | kergoth`1zz | woke up with a fever and fucked up stomach this morning, emailed in sick on my third day at the company |
| 00:33.15 | scanlime | :( |
| 00:35.28 | scanlime | yay for Resolution: not a bug |
| 00:36.25 | KeyserLaptop | kergoth`1zz: your company do any NAS-like products? |
| 00:37.51 | kergoth`1zz | nah, they stick to routing, NAT, load balancing type stuff. http://www.astrocorp.com/ |
| 00:38.30 | scanlime | EMC does NAS-like products.. but you don't want to pay for them |
| 00:41.33 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10bzflag/src/bzfs/bzfs.cxx: print a debug0 warning if a plugin in the command line can't load. |
| 00:44.46 | KeyserLaptop | i don't think i'd wanna pay $60 more for the HG model, since it looks you can add ram to the normal model, and i'm sure the 8241 is the same on both of them |
| 00:45.20 | KeyserLaptop | i doubt the gigabit ethernet on the HG will make much difference |
| 00:49.40 | ChipX86 | http://wso.williams.edu/~rfoxwell/starwars/SWPants.htm |
| 00:49.52 | ChipX86 | "What's the cargo?" "Only passengers. Myself, the pants, two droids...and no questions asked." |
| 00:51.30 | KeyserLaptop | lol |
| 00:52.45 | KeyserLaptop | He says there's a secret entrance on the other side of the pants. --Threepio |
| 01:01.52 | scanlime | haha |
| 01:02.13 | scanlime | wow |
| 01:03.12 | KeyserLaptop | cool, the kuro box works with an Abatron BDI 2000. that's the exact jtag interface we use at work with the ppc 8241. |
| 01:05.33 | scanlime | nooooo |
| 01:05.41 | scanlime | does C not have an &&= operator? |
| 01:05.52 | ChipX86 | a what? |
| 01:05.58 | KeyserLaptop | hehe |
| 01:05.58 | numist | uhm, I do believe not |
| 01:06.02 | scanlime | nooooooooo |
| 01:06.06 | scanlime | this was so elegant... |
| 01:06.07 | KeyserLaptop | it has &=, that's for sure |
| 01:06.15 | ChipX86 | what's &&= ? |
| 01:06.29 | scanlime | ChipX86: like +=, but with && instead of + |
| 01:06.37 | KeyserLaptop | boolean and of something with something else, storing the result back in the first thing |
| 01:06.51 | ChipX86 | weird |
| 01:07.02 | ChipX86 | what will they think of next! |
| 01:07.05 | scanlime | well apparently I was just assuming it existed when it didn't... |
| 01:09.29 | ChipX86 | hmm hungry |
| 01:10.05 | scanlime | me too |
| 01:10.21 | ChipX86 | aww, I was about to suggest we grab sushi |
| 01:10.25 | scanlime | ah |
| 01:10.27 | scanlime | sorry |
| 01:10.33 | ChipX86 | np |
| 01:10.46 | ChipX86 | tempted to make a Frys run |
| 01:10.49 | KeyserLaptop | but last night i ate at a japanese restaurant that was pretty good |
| 01:11.10 | KeyserLaptop | it was the kind where they grill the food in front of you. really goot steak and shrimp |
| 01:11.12 | ChipX86 | just grab it before someone eats it ;) |
| 01:11.17 | scanlime | hehe, yeah |
| 01:13.20 | numist | waiter.com? |
| 01:13.31 | scanlime | food delivery service |
| 01:13.33 | numist | chickem parm? /me drools |
| 01:13.41 | scanlime | vmware has a deal with them that delivers for free directly to our cafeteria |
| 01:13.47 | numist | nice |
| 01:13.48 | scanlime | you still pay for the food, but the delivery is on the company |
| 01:13.54 | numist | what area do they cover? |
| 01:13.58 | scanlime | dunno |
| 01:14.01 | KeyserLaptop | bah. so buffalo tech used u-boot as a development bootloader, but it's not in the shipped product |
| 01:14.06 | numist | not san diego, im guessing |
| 01:14.09 | scanlime | I've seen waiter.com cars around the bay area various places |
| 01:14.11 | KeyserLaptop | so they don't have to release it, even though it's GPL |
| 01:14.46 | ChipX86 | release uboot? |
| 01:14.52 | KeyserLaptop | btw, if any of you guys buy a $350,000 cirrus or $1.2M$ eclipse jet in a couple years, we'll give you our U-Boot code... |
| 01:15.13 | ChipX86 | KeyserLaptop: I'm picking one up Friday |
| 01:15.31 | KeyserLaptop | ChipX86: uboot is a gpl'd bootloader. buffalo tech used it during development, but they don't ship it with uboot, so they don't have to give out their source for it |
| 01:15.41 | ChipX86 | nod |
| 01:15.41 | KeyserLaptop | ChipX86: friday is too soon, we haven't shipped yet |
| 01:15.43 | ChipX86 | could ask for it |
| 01:15.45 | ChipX86 | bah |
| 01:15.58 | KeyserLaptop | people already have asked, i'm reading their threads on the forum :D |
| 01:15.59 | ChipX86 | and here I'm buying a jet for nothing |
| 01:16.03 | *** join/#tacobeam pagefault (i=Eric@HSE-Montreal-ppp134828.qc.sympatico.ca) |
| 01:16.21 | KeyserLaptop | well, if you buy an eclipse, it will have our stuff. but you won't get your plane for 6 months+ |
| 01:16.41 | ChipX86 | can i just download eclipse? |
| 01:17.15 | KeyserLaptop | hehe. not only do we build the flight deck for the Eclipse E500 jet, but we are going to use the Eclipse (non-related) IDE to do it |
| 01:17.50 | scanlime | you need to make u-boot work with the Rio KArma |
| 01:17.51 | KeyserLaptop | hilarity ensues when we try to talk about our development environment and customer in the same sentence |
| 01:17.57 | KeyserLaptop | the mp3 player? |
| 01:18.01 | scanlime | yes |
| 01:18.11 | ChipX86 | my karma's just about had it. It only works half the time anymore, and keeps telling me some tracks are dead |
| 01:18.16 | scanlime | :( |
| 01:18.21 | ChipX86 | it fell *one time* |
| 01:18.22 | KeyserLaptop | is it flash, or HD based? |
| 01:18.24 | scanlime | have you tried rebuilding the database? |
| 01:18.29 | ChipX86 | the wheel snapped and everything's been screwy since |
| 01:18.32 | KeyserLaptop | doh |
| 01:18.38 | ChipX86 | it's way too fragile |
| 01:18.45 | ChipX86 | scanlime: no, I should try that |
| 01:18.50 | ChipX86 | but it doesn't even turn on all the time anymore |
| 01:18.58 | ChipX86 | and without the wheel, it's a pain to use |
| 01:18.59 | scanlime | ChipX86: its database is relatively easy to corrupt, but it has an fsck-thing built in |
| 01:19.16 | scanlime | but I've only ever corrupted it when testing my own code on it :) |
| 01:19.28 | ChipX86 | heh :) |
| 01:19.42 | scanlime | it gets reeealy cranky if you play a track that has metadata but no content |
| 01:20.13 | ChipX86 | I bet |
| 01:20.21 | scanlime | ooh, my code compiles |
| 01:20.32 | KeyserLaptop | that's the nice thing about code |
| 01:20.40 | ChipX86 | not always |
| 01:20.57 | KeyserLaptop | good point. depends on the code. sometimes it's better if it doesn't |
| 01:21.57 | KeyserLaptop | hehe. so my boss, a very smart dude but with even less shell scripting knowledge than me, was hacking on my shell script to autogenerate makefiles. he somehow tricked it into systematically finding all the cpps for his project (what I had it do originally), and delete them |
| 01:22.18 | kergoth`1zz | hah, smoth |
| 01:22.42 | numist | KeyserLaptop: hope you have svn |
| 01:22.53 | scanlime | next you'll tell us you don't believe in version control or backups, and you just blew away about 40 million tax dollars? |
| 01:22.58 | numist | lol |
| 01:22.59 | KeyserLaptop | numist: we have perforce, and he didn't lose much |
| 01:23.04 | numist | good |
| 01:23.21 | KeyserLaptop | hehe. no tax dollars involved, this is all commercial stuff, not gov'ment |
| 01:24.29 | KeyserLaptop | the script now works great, though. auto-generated perfect makefiles for 6 executables so far, pulled the right code for each out of our 2000+ source files |
| 01:24.51 | KeyserLaptop | thanks again to everybody who answered my newb shell scripting questions :D |
| 01:25.24 | scanlime | now all you need is M4 and about 20 years of half-assed hacks, and you'll have a great GNU build system |
| 01:25.38 | numist | >D |
| 01:26.39 | kergoth`1zz | ugh, still feel like crap, i should try to eat something |
| 01:26.51 | ChipX86 | or try waking up |
| 01:26.59 | numist | yep, youre right |
| 01:27.13 | KeyserLaptop | kergoth`1zz: think you got food poisoning? or the flu? |
| 01:27.41 | kergoth | dunno, i was fine yesterday. didnt eat much other than cereal in the morning and a piece of my cousin's wedding cake that night, and i doubt either of those would do it |
| 01:27.49 | ChipX86 | did you eat someone else's lunch? :/ |
| 01:27.54 | kergoth | if it had just been my stomach i wouldve gone into work, but the fever fucks with my concentration |
| 01:34.13 | scanlime | ChipX86: hehe |
| 01:34.33 | ChipX86 | Slashdot: Urine Powered Battery Developed |
| 01:36.40 | numist | nice! |
| 01:36.44 | scanlime | gah.. it just decided to recompile the UI, for no good reason |
| 01:37.04 | ChipX86 | did you sync? |
| 01:37.12 | ChipX86 | I touched some files that every file includes |
| 01:37.18 | KeyserLaptop | the problem with the urine powered battery, is that it must run off the chemical properties of the urine, not just it's volume of water |
| 01:37.37 | KeyserLaptop | so you can't just drink more water when you need to recharge it, you'd only dilute the effectiveness |
| 01:37.45 | KeyserLaptop | perhaps drinking gatorade would work? |
| 01:37.58 | KeyserLaptop | or licking a salt lick, combined with drinking water? |
| 01:41.21 | ChipX86 | yay |
| 01:41.27 | ChipX86 | Walter set up a video-games listserv at vmware |
| 01:44.36 | scanlime | yay, dinner |
| 01:44.52 | KeyserLaptop | hmmm. silicon image ide controller on the kuro box. we already have u-boot and lynxos support for that |
| 01:45.04 | scanlime | the waiter.com delivery lady was waiting outside when I got there.. I hope she hadn't been there long. I imagine during dinner hours it gets frustrating trying to get in without a key... |
| 01:45.05 | KeyserLaptop | although it'd be kind of silly to put lynxos on it... |
| 01:46.40 | numist | yay gorillaz |
| 01:46.50 | kergoth | :D |
| 01:47.02 | numist | yay kergoth's music |
| 01:47.09 | kergoth | i should get some new stuff |
| 01:47.13 | kergoth | i really want that new 311 album |
| 01:47.17 | numist | Ive got things in the queue ;) |
| 01:47.30 | kergoth | lots of people do :P |
| 01:47.42 | numist | yep, rsync is still trucking along.. already at Straylight Run |
| 01:47.47 | numist | after how many weeks :P |
| 01:47.48 | kergoth | nice |
| 01:47.49 | kergoth | hehe |
| 01:47.57 | numist | yeah, itll git done eventually |
| 01:48.02 | kergoth | we shouldve done this before i left texas, had much better upstream there |
| 01:48.10 | numist | aye |
| 01:48.19 | numist | well, I need to upgrade hogwarts if we are to host off of that |
| 01:49.28 | pagefault | harry potter |
| 01:49.37 | pagefault | and such |
| 01:49.42 | pagefault | I am bored |
| 01:49.44 | numist | hogwarts == my dedicated server |
| 01:49.57 | numist | however, it has but 80GB of disk |
| 01:50.08 | ChipX86 | ick |
| 01:50.20 | kergoth | eep |
| 01:50.21 | numist | so, if you have some gigs of music you want absolutely everyone to hear, I can put it up, but I cannot hold it all :( |
| 01:50.38 | numist | and its a rack machine, so its maxed out on drives |
| 01:51.17 | kergoth | i like having hyperion local, but our upstream here sucks. tempted to throw a nice raid setup in it and either upgrade our connection or move it into a colo or something |
| 01:51.21 | kergoth | heh |
| 01:51.43 | ChipX86 | I have no space problem anymore, but I'd love a better upload |
| 01:51.43 | numist | yay |
| 01:51.46 | ChipX86 | I can'get more than 45KB/s |
| 01:52.16 | kergoth | at least i'm learning about qos, so i can fix the router here to not totally hose my ssh/web/world of warcraft when i've got ubernet/ubermovie/rsync's going |
| 01:52.18 | numist | well, someone donate a drive for hogwarts and everyones music can be on 100Mbit simpli |
| 01:52.19 | kergoth | heh |
| 01:52.37 | file[laptop] | numist: I'll have extra drives soon |
| 01:52.43 | file[laptop] | a 40GB and 60GB |
| 01:52.50 | scanlime | would have been cool if I'd ended up in the same apartment complex as ChipX86 with some 100baseT between us :) |
| 01:52.58 | ChipX86 | you could have :) |
| 01:53.08 | scanlime | except that complex seemed to have only kinda shitty rooms available |
| 01:53.13 | ChipX86 | :( |
| 01:53.18 | numist | file[laptop]: I have extra 40's too.. problem is hogwarts is spatially limited since its a thin rack machine |
| 01:53.27 | file[laptop] | 'tsk 'tsk |
| 01:53.28 | ChipX86 | I like my apartment. I think another 2 bedroom opened, but I don't know about 1 bedrooms |
| 01:53.51 | scanlime | ChipX86: their 1 bedroom apartments are quite tiny and overpriced, from the ones I saw |
| 01:54.18 | ChipX86 | scanlime: that sucks |
| 01:54.41 | numist | scanlime: expensive by your standards or expensive by local standards |
| 01:55.00 | scanlime | compared to the other CA places I looked at |
| 01:55.07 | numist | :) |
| 01:55.09 | ChipX86 | Palo Alto is especially expensive |
| 01:55.18 | ChipX86 | although in Palo Alto, this place isn't much more expensive than other places |
| 01:55.23 | ChipX86 | I've seen some $2000 apartments that were crap |
| 01:55.35 | scanlime | yeah |
| 01:55.56 | ChipX86 | there was this one that had pics and advertisement that made it sound like it was some luxurious, wonderful place |
| 01:56.01 | scanlime | I'm fairly happy with this place.. would be better if I was around people closer to my age, fewer screaming kids, and if the new-paint smell would go away |
| 01:56.07 | ChipX86 | in reality, it was nothing more than a crappy apartment complex that was mainly a retirement community |
| 01:56.36 | scanlime | yes |
| 01:57.04 | scanlime | my apartment complex is a 'resort' apparently because they have several pools, a club house, and nice landscaping. There's nothing especially special about the apartments though, and it's relatively cheap |
| 01:57.15 | numist | you ever use the features |
| 01:57.17 | numist | ? |
| 01:57.29 | scanlime | well I just moved here |
| 01:57.33 | scanlime | so not especially much yet |
| 01:58.17 | scanlime | it has some nice stuff though |
| 01:58.28 | scanlime | lots of pool tables, some pools, a decent sized rec room |
| 01:58.36 | scanlime | with or without the features it seemed like a good deal |
| 01:58.39 | numist | much more than my place |
| 01:58.46 | numist | and I cant even use our pool |
| 01:58.53 | ChipX86 | why |
| 01:58.53 | numist | it closes too early |
| 01:58.53 | ChipX86 | ? |
| 01:58.57 | scanlime | aw |
| 01:58.57 | ChipX86 | what time? |
| 01:59.01 | numist | cant use it past 10 |
| 01:59.02 | *** join/#tacobeam lalo (n=lalo@221.122.43.98) |
| 01:59.07 | ChipX86 | ah. Same, officially |
| 01:59.18 | numist | and the only enforcement is the lady that lives next to the pool yelling at us |
| 01:59.21 | numist | which happens every time |
| 01:59.25 | numist | so Ive just given up :( |
| 01:59.26 | pagefault | solder time |
| 01:59.35 | scanlime | I don't remember if ours has an official closing time... I've seen people in them pretty late though, and there's no real security |
| 02:00.18 | pagefault | it's silly to have rules in a place that you call your home |
| 02:00.21 | scanlime | they give us a key for the pools and for the outside doors, but I hardly ever have to use it. One of the side doors on my build is is always cracked open a bit, and as tall as I am I can just reach to the other side of the gate and unlock the pool |
| 02:00.23 | pagefault | you should be able to do whatever you want |
| 02:01.01 | scanlime | this chicken parmesan tastes very very reheated |
| 02:01.07 | numist | :( |
| 02:01.10 | ChipX86 | welcome to waiter.com food |
| 02:01.14 | scanlime | thanks |
| 02:01.32 | pagefault | haha |
| 02:01.56 | ChipX86 | for personal use, there's no delivery fees or tips |
| 02:02.07 | ChipX86 | except there's a gratuity fee, and you have to pay for the service |
| 02:02.09 | numist | hehe |
| 02:02.15 | scanlime | :) |
| 02:02.20 | ChipX86 | (I'm serious) |
| 02:02.25 | numist | whats the difference between a gratuity fee and a tip? |
| 02:02.25 | scanlime | wow |
| 02:02.29 | ChipX86 | numist: dunno |
| 02:02.33 | numist | ok |
| 02:02.37 | ChipX86 | they advertise (or used to advertise) this on the website |
| 02:02.43 | ChipX86 | but then if you look deeper into it, it lists the prices |
| 02:02.47 | scanlime | maybe it's for people that are afraid of tipping- you pay them to pay the tip for you? |
| 02:02.52 | pagefault | thats like saying the meal is fat free |
| 02:02.55 | pagefault | but only fat free if you don't eat it |
| 02:02.56 | ChipX86 | dunno |
| 02:04.10 | scanlime | ChipX86: next time we're both hungry and here lateish, definitely sushi... |
| 02:04.14 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 02:04.30 | scanlime | yay, I crashed vmx |
| 02:04.34 | ChipX86 | fun |
| 02:04.50 | ChipX86 | I've told you where "GSX" and "ESX" come from, right? |
| 02:04.57 | scanlime | yes :) |
| 02:04.59 | ChipX86 | ok |
| 02:05.05 | ChipX86 | most people here don't know |
| 02:05.07 | ChipX86 | so I had to be sure |
| 02:05.14 | scanlime | I don't suppose VMX has a funny background? :P |
| 02:05.18 | ChipX86 | probably not |
| 02:06.15 | ChipX86 | when i come in tomorrow, I want that OS running in my VM. |
| 02:06.48 | scanlime | yep |
| 02:06.53 | file[laptop] | picky picky ChipX86 |
| 02:08.09 | ChipX86 | huh. Now that's a weird bug.. when I click Browse, the window flashes before the dialog comes up |
| 02:08.50 | scanlime | oh. no wonder this failed |
| 02:09.01 | scanlime | the way the loop is written, it retries if it succeeds... |
| 02:14.43 | scanlime | oh no, matt turned the light on :) |
| 02:15.22 | pagefault | internation make out light |
| 02:15.24 | pagefault | +al |
| 02:15.38 | scanlime | um? |
| 02:15.43 | pagefault | oh oops |
| 02:15.48 | pagefault | flourescent |
| 02:15.59 | pagefault | well you never know |
| 02:16.17 | scanlime | well, I don't think I'm making out.. and matt's behind me, but it sure sounds like he's alone and he's typing |
| 02:16.35 | pagefault | check under the desk |
| 02:16.54 | scanlime | heh |
| 02:16.59 | kergoth | i dont think thatd be called 'making out' anymore if she's under the desk |
| 02:17.24 | pagefault | thats true, I think I just better shut up now |
| 02:17.25 | scanlime | could be two people under the desk |
| 02:17.34 | ChipX86 | while he's typing? |
| 02:17.35 | ChipX86 | kinky |
| 02:17.37 | scanlime | there's actually plenty of room |
| 02:17.39 | ChipX86 | and not the good kind |
| 02:17.50 | ChipX86 | yeah, we have massive desks of strongitude |
| 02:18.06 | ChipX86 | (strongitude is a word now.) |
| 02:18.09 | scanlime | I love these desks |
| 02:18.13 | numist | ChipX86++ |
| 02:18.15 | scanlime | you should see my desk at home.. ;) |
| 02:18.23 | numist | take a picture :) |
| 02:18.29 | ChipX86 | these are great desks. I don't even use half of mine |
| 02:18.30 | scanlime | I'm sure I have pictures of it elsewhere |
| 02:18.39 | KeyserLaptop | are the desks part of the cube? |
| 02:18.40 | ChipX86 | I have a picture of it |
| 02:18.43 | ChipX86 | haha |
| 02:18.43 | ChipX86 | cubes |
| 02:18.44 | pagefault | timecube.org |
| 02:18.45 | ChipX86 | we don't have cubes |
| 02:18.45 | scanlime | hehe |
| 02:18.47 | pagefault | that guy is crazy |
| 02:18.49 | pagefault | heh |
| 02:18.50 | ChipX86 | we have window offices |
| 02:18.52 | ChipX86 | silly KeyserLaptop |
| 02:18.54 | kergoth | i hate you |
| 02:18.59 | kergoth | i dont even have a cube yet! |
| 02:19.04 | scanlime | the interns have cubes |
| 02:19.04 | kergoth | much less an office |
| 02:19.12 | ChipX86 | and some managers have cubes |
| 02:19.14 | ChipX86 | engineers get offices |
| 02:19.17 | KeyserLaptop | everyone has an office with a window? |
| 02:19.18 | pagefault | what was that place that has the honeycomb cubicle? |
| 02:19.25 | ChipX86 | we stick our VP in a little makeshift cube/office |
| 02:19.30 | scanlime | :) |
| 02:19.41 | ChipX86 | right next to me, in the little receptionist room |
| 02:19.52 | scanlime | KeyserLaptop: our new one will have more |
| 02:19.53 | ChipX86 | KeyserLaptop: I'll show you what it looks like here |
| 02:19.58 | KeyserLaptop | does it have more than 3 spatial dimensions? |
| 02:20.02 | ChipX86 | our new one is designed toi have as many corner offices as possible |
| 02:20.11 | scanlime | KeyserLaptop: it might.. the architect seems a bit wacky |
| 02:20.15 | ChipX86 | this is what it looks like from the outside: |
| 02:20.20 | ChipX86 | http://osiris.chipx86.com/photos/vmware/outside/IMG_2223.jpg |
| 02:20.31 | KeyserLaptop | shit. if only i got that last question in before scanlime's about "new one will have more" |
| 02:20.32 | kergoth | wow |
| 02:20.37 | pagefault | that is a pretty swank office |
| 02:20.37 | ChipX86 | desks: http://osiris.chipx86.com/photos/office/dsc01949.jpg |
| 02:20.50 | pagefault | it looks like some sort of garden center |
| 02:20.52 | ChipX86 | (that's mine) |
| 02:21.01 | ChipX86 | vmware rocks. |
| 02:21.03 | scanlime | ChipX86 has a much better view than I do |
| 02:21.12 | ChipX86 | scanlime: that's just because of Regis |
| 02:21.12 | pagefault | haha |
| 02:21.14 | scanlime | well, plus he's facing the window... |
| 02:21.15 | pagefault | you have the same CRT as me |
| 02:21.19 | pagefault | exact same CRT |
| 02:21.20 | pagefault | heh |
| 02:21.27 | ChipX86 | P95f+ ? |
| 02:21.29 | pagefault | yeah |
| 02:21.30 | pagefault | and black |
| 02:21.31 | scanlime | my officemate has the exact same CRT I have on yoshi |
| 02:21.40 | ChipX86 | I have the exact same LCD that scanlime has |
| 02:21.41 | KeyserLaptop | how many to an office? |
| 02:21.43 | ChipX86 | 2 |
| 02:21.45 | pagefault | nice hat btw |
| 02:21.48 | ChipX86 | thanks |
| 02:21.53 | KeyserLaptop | that's cool |
| 02:21.55 | numist | yay chevys |
| 02:21.58 | ChipX86 | it was part of my welcome lunch. They sang to me. |
| 02:22.04 | ChipX86 | and I got ice cream |
| 02:22.05 | scanlime | hehe |
| 02:22.09 | ChipX86 | :) |
| 02:22.16 | scanlime | the restaurant staff sang, or your coworkers? |
| 02:22.22 | ChipX86 | I can't remember |
| 02:22.26 | scanlime | hehe |
| 02:22.29 | file[laptop] | singing coworkers is scary |
| 02:22.30 | ChipX86 | I think the staff sang, but yo uknow, maybe there wasn't singing |
| 02:22.40 | ChipX86 | maybe they just said they should have sang. I can't remember now |
| 02:22.54 | ChipX86 | that first week was a blur |
| 02:23.19 | scanlime | hmm |
| 02:23.20 | ChipX86 | http://osiris.chipx86.com/photos/vmware/outside/IMG_2218.jpg |
| 02:23.30 | ChipX86 | that's our team mascott |
| 02:23.34 | pagefault | haha leo can't get his wifi voip phone working on call for help |
| 02:23.45 | scanlime | ChipX86: =) |
| 02:24.24 | ChipX86 | http://osiris.chipx86.com/photos/vmware/santa_cruz_ws5_party/2005-05-20b0031.jpg |
| 02:24.25 | KeyserLaptop | ahah! my company is just as cool as vmware in at least one respect! we also have a darth potato |
| 02:24.27 | ChipX86 | there's us being very childish |
| 02:24.43 | ChipX86 | http://osiris.chipx86.com/photos/vmware/christine_bridal_dunk/IMG_2230.jpg |
| 02:24.45 | KeyserLaptop | is there a ChipX86 in that pic? |
| 02:24.47 | ChipX86 | and that's what happens when you get married |
| 02:24.48 | ChipX86 | KeyserLaptop: nope |
| 02:25.03 | pagefault | haha |
| 02:25.17 | ChipX86 | http://osiris.chipx86.com/photos/vmware/christine_bridal_dunk/IMG_2226.jpg |
| 02:25.42 | ChipX86 | http://osiris.chipx86.com/photos/star_wars/gotta_call_mom.jpg |
| 02:25.51 | KeyserLaptop | that's cool. at my work, you're not allowed to pick up a chick and grab her ass |
| 02:25.58 | ChipX86 | we encourage it |
| 02:25.58 | KeyserLaptop | or actually, they don't have any chicks |
| 02:26.25 | ChipX86 | it's vmware tradition. If you're getting married, you're getting dunked in the pond |
| 02:26.33 | ChipX86 | and you won't know when it'll happen |
| 02:26.45 | scanlime | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:26.46 | KeyserLaptop | what's nice about my job though, is that when you are behind schedule, they only beat you with a rubber hose, so it doesn't leave any marks |
| 02:26.52 | ChipX86 | the managers and engineers plot and plan and when the person is least suspecting it, like during an important meeting, they rush in and grab the person |
| 02:27.00 | scanlime | hehe |
| 02:27.01 | ChipX86 | scanlime: apparently since near the beginning of the company |
| 02:27.02 | scanlime | nice |
| 02:27.06 | scanlime | wow |
| 02:27.17 | KeyserLaptop | does the same dude grab everyone's ass? |
| 02:27.18 | scanlime | has it always been that same pond? |
| 02:27.21 | KeyserLaptop | or you take turns? |
| 02:27.27 | ChipX86 | scanlime: yep |
| 02:27.31 | ChipX86 | KeyserLaptop: it's just whoever |
| 02:27.36 | KeyserLaptop | cool |
| 02:27.36 | kergoth | hm, if i had actually had some clue of what the hell i want to do, i'd consider applying there, though i doubt i'd get a position |
| 02:27.37 | ChipX86 | unfortunately, he tripped and dropped her... |
| 02:27.40 | kergoth | heh |
| 02:27.46 | KeyserLaptop | lol |
| 02:27.51 | ChipX86 | this was just after she got back frmo giving blood |
| 02:27.55 | kergoth | hah |
| 02:27.59 | kergoth | smooth |
| 02:28.02 | ChipX86 | :) |
| 02:28.06 | scanlime | kergoth: you might as well send your resume... |
| 02:28.12 | ChipX86 | scanline gets to witness a dunking soon |
| 02:28.15 | scanlime | kergoth: if ChipX86 or I rever you we get money :) |
| 02:28.17 | KeyserLaptop | we got this new HR chick, and she's always telling people not to swear so much |
| 02:28.21 | ChipX86 | scanlime: :) |
| 02:28.28 | ChipX86 | KeyserLaptop: hah |
| 02:28.33 | ChipX86 | swearing is common enough here |
| 02:28.40 | KeyserLaptop | and people like to yell obscenities at each other really loud, which i think is fun |
| 02:28.51 | kergoth | heh. i'm sort of your jack of all^H^H^Hmost trades kinda geek, wouldnt even know which position i'd apply for, since i could do a number of them |
| 02:29.00 | ChipX86 | hah yay for Bug X |
| 02:29.04 | kergoth | Bug X? |
| 02:29.12 | ChipX86 | the unnamed feature |
| 02:29.22 | scanlime | the suitably renamed bug |
| 02:29.41 | scanlime | 'cuz X makes it cool. 72515 just isn't cool. |
| 02:29.42 | ChipX86 | everyone's pet project lately |
| 02:29.46 | ChipX86 | nope |
| 02:30.42 | kergoth | http://www.vmware.com/jobs/openings/engineering.html#aie looks decent, the "application infrastructure engineer", given my background |
| 02:31.00 | pagefault | heh |
| 02:31.04 | pagefault | I should try applying to vmware when I graduate |
| 02:31.05 | file[laptop] | VMware slowly steals everyone in #tacobeam |
| 02:31.16 | kergoth | clueful companies are hard to come by |
| 02:31.28 | ChipX86 | VMware's eating up the open source community one by one |
| 02:31.35 | ChipX86 | and yet, nobody seems to complain |
| 02:31.38 | kergoth | chomp chomp |
| 02:31.49 | scanlime | mm, tasty open source |
| 02:32.31 | kergoth | i think i'll work at this place for a few months, and if i dont end up _hating_ it the way i did the ti one, then i'll stay in computing and start applying at places like vmware |
| 02:32.36 | kergoth | if i do hate it, its back to school i go |
| 02:32.38 | pagefault | i'll probably end up working at IBM though |
| 02:32.47 | kergoth | KeyserLaptop: hehe |
| 02:33.05 | pagefault | or be self employed with my own company if other things go well |
| 02:33.11 | kergoth | KeyserLaptop: my boss at ti said i should tell prospective employers to google for kergoth. i considered all the irc logs of me berating some poor newb, and decided against that plan. |
| 02:33.20 | KeyserLaptop | lol |
| 02:33.30 | scanlime | hah |
| 02:34.25 | pagefault | someone here needs to get into google |
| 02:34.32 | pagefault | maybe I can get into google if things go well |
| 02:34.39 | ChipX86 | meh, google |
| 02:34.41 | scanlime | bah |
| 02:34.43 | pagefault | GOOGLE |
| 02:34.46 | numist | I was almost in google, but they sent the offer after Id already accepted elsewhere |
| 02:34.48 | scanlime | vmware is lots cooler than google |
| 02:34.56 | ChipX86 | the general consensus I get from people is that google isn't as fun to work at as they try to make it seem |
| 02:34.56 | numist | vmware sounds cooler than google |
| 02:35.01 | KeyserLaptop | does google do anything cool? |
| 02:35.07 | kergoth | lol |
| 02:35.14 | pagefault | IBM is cool to work for |
| 02:35.15 | file[laptop] | I'm rather happy where I am, but I have an odd feeling that Alan is going to send me to the Phillipines office |
| 02:35.18 | ChipX86 | KeyserLaptop: yeah, but you're generally not going to work on the really cool stuff if you get a job there |
| 02:35.19 | numist | google was a lot of fun earlier, but now that they are behemothical in size, its not as fun |
| 02:35.21 | scanlime | google does lots of cool stuff, but they employ lots of people to do very boring stuff, from what I've heard |
| 02:35.22 | kergoth | mm, https://svn.netfilter.org/netfilter/trunk/netfilter-ha/README looks neat |
| 02:35.27 | ChipX86 | scanlime: yeah |
| 02:35.42 | ChipX86 | if you're really well established or have a phd or something, you can head some of the cool stuff |
| 02:35.52 | pagefault | I will just be happy to have a job if things go well |
| 02:35.53 | pagefault | hehe |
| 02:35.54 | ChipX86 | otherwise, you'll probably be one of the guys scanning magazine articles all day |
| 02:36.06 | pagefault | where you start |
| 02:36.11 | pagefault | really doesn't say much about where you are going |
| 02:36.23 | ChipX86 | pagefault: it's so big at this point that I woudln't expect to go too far |
| 02:36.39 | scanlime | at vmware you can basically start out working on fairly neat stuff |
| 02:36.42 | ChipX86 | at least, not from what I hear from the people who come here from google or who have roommates or friends there |
| 02:36.46 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 02:36.49 | ChipX86 | and you can move around if you get bored |
| 02:37.27 | pagefault | I could also try for Microsoft |
| 02:37.30 | file[laptop] | I neeeed a drink |
| 02:37.30 | pagefault | wouldn't that be evil |
| 02:37.39 | ChipX86 | pagefault: nah, I'm sure it's interesting in parts there |
| 02:37.42 | ChipX86 | the R&D labs would be fun |
| 02:37.55 | scanlime | microsoft's AI research kicks so much ass |
| 02:37.56 | pagefault | at least MS treats it's employees really well |
| 02:38.01 | KeyserLaptop | R&D at google would be fun? |
| 02:38.04 | scanlime | if I had a PhD I'd love to work somewhere like that |
| 02:38.14 | ChipX86 | KeyserLaptop: at MS |
| 02:38.19 | scanlime | R&D at either google or microsoft would be lots of fun if I was qualified enough |
| 02:38.27 | kergoth | research would be cool. i'm sure it stays interesting |
| 02:38.36 | KeyserLaptop | at MS? |
| 02:38.40 | pagefault | research is the best |
| 02:38.42 | pagefault | since you have no deadlines |
| 02:38.43 | kergoth | heh, in general |
| 02:38.45 | ChipX86 | the cool thing about vmware is that if you have an idea for an advanced experimental project, you can basically let people know and then devote a bunch of time toward it |
| 02:38.47 | pagefault | you basically just do your own thing |
| 02:38.51 | kergoth | i thought about applying for a job with nokia's linux research lab in norway |
| 02:38.55 | scanlime | KeyserLaptop: have you ever read any papers that have come out of MS research? |
| 02:38.55 | kergoth | know a guy over there |
| 02:38.58 | pagefault | just show you are working on something |
| 02:38.58 | ChipX86 | so instead of some special R&D lab or advanced projects lab, anyone can do it |
| 02:38.59 | kergoth | actually, know a few guys over there |
| 02:39.02 | KeyserLaptop | scanlime: nope |
| 02:42.38 | pagefault | file[laptop], you wouldn't be able to see overdrawn at the memory bank if you go there |
| 02:43.06 | ChipX86 | 4th review request of the day |
| 02:43.27 | ChipX86 | KeyserLaptop: yeah |
| 02:43.33 | KeyserLaptop | and doesn't know whether to be pleased, or afraid |
| 02:43.37 | ChipX86 | they do R&D. They're not making products |
| 02:43.38 | KeyserLaptop | :p |
| 02:43.46 | ChipX86 | but some things, like .NET, came out of R&D |
| 02:43.50 | ChipX86 | and .NET is actually quite nice |
| 02:43.57 | scanlime | and cleartype |
| 02:44.00 | KeyserLaptop | huh. i dinna know that |
| 02:44.01 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 02:44.13 | pagefault | .NET is probably going to be around longer than MS |
| 02:44.17 | ChipX86 | and the internet |
| 02:44.26 | ChipX86 | KeyserLaptop: no, .NET is really nice |
| 02:44.28 | scanlime | KeyserLaptop: you've never used C# I take it... |
| 02:44.28 | file[laptop] | pagefault: haha |
| 02:44.30 | ChipX86 | they learned a lot from Java's mistakes |
| 02:44.40 | ChipX86 | people like to say it's crap because it's MS, and that it's just a Java clone, but it's so much more |
| 02:44.55 | pagefault | .NET is nice because you can use any language you want |
| 02:45.03 | ChipX86 | assuming you can compile to the bytecode |
| 02:45.04 | ChipX86 | yaeh |
| 02:45.17 | scanlime | ChipX86: I keep thinking about what you said, about impulsively hitting the new VM wizard every time you start vmware... |
| 02:45.23 | ChipX86 | KeyserLaptop: so imagine this. Writing your UI in VB#, your main code in C#, and your file parsing in perl# |
| 02:45.30 | ChipX86 | haha |
| 02:45.39 | ChipX86 | KeyserLaptop: so you do all that and it Just Works |
| 02:45.48 | pagefault | it's magi |
| 02:45.49 | pagefault | c |
| 02:45.50 | scanlime | even before the BIOS is done and everything.. in goes the flash widgey |
| 02:45.55 | ChipX86 | you call your C# functions from perl# and all as if they were native |
| 02:46.03 | pagefault | VB is good for RAD |
| 02:46.10 | pagefault | but everything else is bleh |
| 02:46.11 | scanlime | VB# is just a new syntax for C# mostly |
| 02:46.11 | ChipX86 | VB and VB# are very different things |
| 02:46.15 | ChipX86 | VB# is a lot more mature |
| 02:46.15 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 02:46.29 | pagefault | i'd rather use delphi or something though for UI :P |
| 02:46.33 | pagefault | if I was going to use something else |
| 02:46.42 | scanlime | ick, delphi... |
| 02:46.53 | pagefault | delphi is great |
| 02:46.57 | scanlime | give me any .NET language rather than Object Pascal any day |
| 02:47.04 | numist | lol |
| 02:47.05 | ChipX86 | Cobol# |
| 02:47.17 | ChipX86 | or Cobol.NET or whatever |
| 02:47.19 | ChipX86 | Perl.NET.. |
| 02:47.25 | ChipX86 | whatever the naming convention is |
| 02:47.31 | pagefault | goatse.net |
| 02:47.33 | scanlime | IronPython |
| 02:47.59 | KeyserLaptop | lol |
| 02:48.29 | ChipX86 | my rio has almost no battery left |
| 02:48.31 | scanlime | ahhhh.. I think this is working |
| 02:48.38 | pagefault | better charge that sucker up then chip |
| 02:48.42 | kergoth | you guys hear tim riker is doing huge clusters now? |
| 02:48.43 | ChipX86 | I will when I get home |
| 02:48.50 | kergoth | he somehow jumped from embedded arm devices to clusters |
| 02:48.53 | kergoth | what a contrast |
| 02:48.55 | ChipX86 | KeyserLaptop: hah |
| 02:48.56 | KeyserLaptop | shouldn't there be another 7 in 5734lh? or does that make it more stealthy^Wstealhy? |
| 02:49.21 | scanlime | kergoth: wow.. still no time for bzflag I guess ;) |
| 02:49.32 | KeyserLaptop | kergoth: did he change companies? |
| 02:49.49 | kergoth | scanlime: hehe |
| 02:50.05 | scanlime | geh. still not used to diffing diffs... |
| 02:50.06 | kergoth | KeyserLaptop: yeah, he was at ti, used to be my boss there before the education project got canned |
| 02:50.19 | kergoth | he hung around looking to get them to wake up and get a new project rolling |
| 02:50.30 | kergoth | then left, back to utah, and is doing massive clusters there now |
| 02:52.09 | scanlime | wowee |
| 02:52.13 | scanlime | perforce is so much faster at this time of day |
| 02:52.22 | ChipX86 | yep |
| 02:52.25 | KeyserLaptop | you guys use perforce at vmware? |
| 02:52.28 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 02:52.28 | kergoth | heh, how is perforce? never used it, wonder how it compares to clearcase & bk |
| 02:52.38 | KeyserLaptop | yet another way that my job is just as cool as vmware! |
| 02:52.41 | ChipX86 | I haven't used clearcase of bk |
| 02:52.54 | ChipX86 | KeyserLaptop: our company took every employee to see Star Wars |
| 02:52.57 | kergoth | clearcase has some aspects that make it both very cool and very annoying |
| 02:53.15 | kergoth | scanlime: i checked the svk homepage, apparently it supports an upstream of perforce now. wacky. |
| 02:53.20 | ChipX86 | KeyserLaptop: and we have over 1000 people now |
| 02:53.31 | KeyserLaptop | ever fly in a plane at work with a laptop, and upload new code to the primary flight display while in the air? |
| 02:53.55 | ChipX86 | nope |
| 02:53.56 | ChipX86 | :( |
| 02:53.58 | KeyserLaptop | it's actually more fun than it sounds |
| 02:54.27 | KeyserLaptop | i guess the stuff i do is okay, but they have a crap-assed attitude towards engineers |
| 02:54.42 | kergoth | http://dragon.linux-vs.org/~dragonfly/ - heh, cool |
| 02:55.21 | scanlime | hmm |
| 02:55.26 | scanlime | chris just went home |
| 02:55.36 | scanlime | I think this might be the first time I've been here that late ;) |
| 02:55.56 | ChipX86 | scanlime: heh, wait until crunch time ;) |
| 02:56.01 | ChipX86 | this will be common |
| 02:56.06 | KeyserLaptop | i gather it's something to do with networking |
| 02:56.19 | pagefault | kergoth, what is that |
| 02:56.50 | KeyserLaptop | "TCPHA implements an architecture for scalable content-aware request distribution in cluster-base servers" |
| 02:57.10 | pagefault | yeah I read that but I don't quite gather what it's used for |
| 02:57.18 | KeyserLaptop | load balancing? |
| 02:57.31 | kergoth | content-aware http request distribution across your LVS nodes (cluster). node 1 can manage serving just the htm content, 2 the gif/jpg, etc, all transparently. at least thats how i read it |
| 02:57.37 | pagefault | ahh I see |
| 02:57.38 | pagefault | neat |
| 02:57.39 | ChipX86 | bah |
| 02:57.45 | ChipX86 | SVLUG hackfest is tomorrow, and I don't have a laptop |
| 02:57.50 | pagefault | hehe |
| 02:57.51 | pagefault | kergoth, thanks |
| 02:57.52 | pagefault | LUG |
| 02:58.04 | ChipX86 | ? |
| 02:58.15 | file | ChipX86: that's sad |
| 02:58.34 | scanlime | hmm |
| 02:58.41 | KeyserLaptop | i dunno if having it run in the kernel is a good thing. i mean, how far away are you then from just designing a dedicated box with an RTOS (or no OS at all), to just a tcp/ip stack and load balancing, really really quickly |
| 02:58.45 | scanlime | maybe I should call this a good stopping point.. it is later than I thought |
| 02:58.45 | pagefault | well I don't have a laptop either |
| 02:58.56 | KeyserLaptop | will you run other normal apps on the box doing the tcpha? |
| 02:59.19 | kergoth | KeyserLaptop: yeah, putting layer 7 bits in the kernel feels icky |
| 02:59.43 | file | kergoth: you wouldn't like what I've been working on then |
| 03:00.18 | kergoth | "Alien Autopsy: Reverse Engineering Win32 Trojans on Linux" .. heh, fun |
| 03:02.10 | pagefault | sigh |
| 03:02.14 | pagefault | I can't even max out my internet connection |
| 03:02.43 | ChipX86 | I should locate food around here |
| 03:03.34 | file | ermph, would anyone know of a C based library or something for the Oscar protocol for AIM? |
| 03:04.08 | kergoth | hmmm |
| 03:04.22 | pagefault | isn't there a libgaim? |
| 03:04.27 | file | I want a better test scenario for asterisk for messaging |
| 03:04.33 | ChipX86 | pagefault: not any official one |
| 03:04.37 | ChipX86 | just hacked up ones that don't do presence |
| 03:04.45 | file | pagefault: you gave me an idea... but what was it |
| 03:05.02 | file | that software that has the IRC protocol built in, but it's an IM client |
| 03:05.15 | pagefault | gaim? |
| 03:05.17 | file | no |
| 03:05.22 | file | you connect to it as an IRC server |
| 03:05.27 | ChipX86 | it's been done |
| 03:05.35 | file | each contact is represented by someone on the server, yada yada |
| 03:05.37 | file | can't remember the name |
| 03:08.04 | kergoth | bitlbee is probably what you're thinking of |
| 03:08.14 | file | that's it |
| 03:08.17 | kergoth | its quite nifty, but it really needs to strip the html bits out of the IM |
| 03:08.19 | kergoth | heh |
| 03:08.19 | file | I knew it had the word bee in it |
| 03:08.38 | ChipX86 | bitlbee |
| 03:08.40 | ChipX86 | or something similar |
| 03:08.44 | kergoth | .. |
| 03:08.45 | ChipX86 | oh yeah |
| 03:08.47 | kergoth | hehe |
| 03:08.48 | file | dejavu ;) |
| 03:08.49 | ChipX86 | I didn't read up |
| 03:08.58 | pagefault | veal on a bun |
| 03:09.00 | ChipX86 | I just saw what file said :) |
| 03:09.13 | file | pagefault: bleh |
| 03:09.21 | pagefault | we should have got some when you were her |
| 03:09.23 | pagefault | +e |
| 03:09.26 | file | this is cute |
| 03:09.28 | pagefault | I know a good place |
| 03:09.30 | file | Gaim without gaim - for BitlBee |
| 03:10.01 | ChipX86 | my rio is just barely hanging in there with the battery |
| 03:10.10 | brc_ | ChipX86, forge? |
| 03:10.17 | ChipX86 | brc_: forge? |
| 03:10.20 | pagefault | just don't touch it and the battery lasts longer :) |
| 03:10.26 | file | brc_: are you going to stop following me around one of these days? |
| 03:10.27 | brc_ | rio forge |
| 03:10.32 | ChipX86 | karma |
| 03:10.37 | brc_ | ah |
| 03:10.40 | brc_ | I just got a forge |
| 03:10.42 | brc_ | it ain't bad |
| 03:10.48 | brc_ | woot.com...$50 |
| 03:10.56 | ChipX86 | how big is the storage? |
| 03:10.57 | file | brc_: but anyway, how are you feeling? |
| 03:11.14 | brc_ | damnit, it's file! |
| 03:11.18 | brc_ | how the hell did you find me here? |
| 03:11.29 | pagefault | yay new people |
| 03:11.31 | brc_ | no matter where I go to escape, there he is |
| 03:11.31 | file | it's not hard, I read your nickname |
| 03:11.48 | brc_ | well, if you must know, I feel like shit |
| 03:11.55 | brc_ | the whole left side of my face is throbbing |
| 03:12.00 | file | you need more drugs |
| 03:12.01 | brc_ | probably because I slept on it |
| 03:12.07 | brc_ | I've already taken too much |
| 03:12.10 | file | enough to render you unconscious |
| 03:12.17 | brc_ | then I'd be dead |
| 03:12.19 | brc_ | oh wait |
| 03:12.23 | brc_ | that would be a good thing |
| 03:12.30 | file | atleast you'd be quiet for once |
| 03:12.30 | brc_ | let me see if there is enough left |
| 03:12.38 | brc_ | hey buddy |
| 03:12.39 | brc_ | YOU ASKED |
| 03:12.54 | brc_ | it's healing funny too |
| 03:13.03 | pagefault | I need to venture out to a computer show and find me some new keyboards |
| 03:13.04 | file | must sense your a funny person, ha ha ha |
| 03:13.06 | brc_ | the stich on twh riogt side came out |
| 03:13.16 | brc_ | pagefault, pckeyboards.com |
| 03:13.24 | pagefault | yeah but those ones cost too much |
| 03:13.28 | brc_ | ibm buckling spring design |
| 03:13.30 | brc_ | the best |
| 03:13.31 | pagefault | I can get a model m for $5 at a show |
| 03:13.34 | brc_ | true |
| 03:13.43 | brc_ | pick me up a few, would you? |
| 03:13.57 | brc_ | I'll pay for em, and shipping |
| 03:14.02 | brc_ | and "handling" |
| 03:14.10 | pagefault | last time I went they didn't have any |
| 03:14.22 | brc_ | so you can't get a model m for $5 at a show then |
| 03:14.22 | pagefault | it seems to be random whether they have them |
| 03:14.33 | pagefault | well I got some from there before |
| 03:15.58 | brc_ | paging Mr. Colp |
| 03:16.34 | pagefault | argh |
| 03:16.40 | pagefault | this sucks dude |
| 03:16.43 | brc_ | totrally |
| 03:16.44 | pagefault | this sucks |
| 03:16.48 | file | brc_: what? |
| 03:16.49 | pagefault | someone ninjaed my dreadmist sandals |
| 03:17.00 | kergoth | :( |
| 03:17.32 | pagefault | grr |
| 03:18.00 | brc_ | well, I was just lamenting the fact that the image won't work on less then sse2 |
| 03:18.11 | brc_ | then I remembered that I didn't get taken to a mac store in chicago |
| 03:18.14 | file | my CPU is SSE3 |
| 03:18.19 | brc_ | because if I had, you would've bought me a powerbook |
| 03:18.21 | brc_ | but I didn't |
| 03:18.23 | brc_ | so you couldn't |
| 03:18.26 | ChipX86 | it got dark. |
| 03:18.27 | pagefault | I wonder if anyone has it working in qemu |
| 03:18.30 | file | yeah, me buy you a Powerbook |
| 03:18.31 | file | HA |
| 03:18.31 | brc_ | so I was wondering if you'd care to mail order one for me |
| 03:18.32 | pagefault | since that can emulate SSE2 |
| 03:18.41 | brc_ | vmware can't apparently |
| 03:18.51 | pagefault | I don't think vmware does any emulation as it's just a VM |
| 03:18.58 | file | they're working on it. |
| 03:19.08 | brc_ | FASTER! |
| 03:19.18 | ChipX86 | get a job here, then you work on it |
| 03:19.27 | *** part/#tacobeam brc_ (n=zoxinato@pdpc/supporter/basic/brc) |
| 03:19.28 | gonkulator | ChipX86: that would require he had expertise |
| 03:19.28 | *** join/#tacobeam brc_ (n=zoxinato@pdpc/supporter/basic/brc) |
| 03:19.32 | brc_ | ChipX86, a job where |
| 03:19.35 | ChipX86 | gonkulator: good point |
| 03:19.36 | ChipX86 | brc_: vmware |
| 03:19.44 | brc_ | unlikely |
| 03:19.50 | gonkulator | if I'm not smart enough to work at vmware... |
| 03:19.50 | gonkulator | :) |
| 03:19.54 | brc_ | would you be implying you work at vmware? |
| 03:20.00 | pagefault | are you guys going to support OSX as an official guest OS in the future? |
| 03:20.01 | ChipX86 | I do work at vmware |
| 03:20.02 | ChipX86 | as does scanline |
| 03:20.07 | brc_ | mkay |
| 03:20.10 | ChipX86 | I'm there right now |
| 03:20.19 | numist | brc_: theres not much implication around here |
| 03:20.30 | numist | actually.. I like.. theres a lot of things implied in this channel pretty often |
| 03:20.33 | numist | s/like/lie |
| 03:20.37 | numist | / |
| 03:21.11 | nullpuppy | hehe, yup |
| 03:21.13 | pagefault | always a party at vmware |
| 03:21.44 | ChipX86 | I write the Linux UI for Workstation, GSX, etc |
| 03:21.46 | numist | brc_: he's a code monkey |
| 03:21.50 | brc_ | 0_0 |
| 03:21.55 | nullpuppy | he's a monkey of code |
| 03:21.57 | file | yay Chip |
| 03:22.18 | brc_ | damn |
| 03:22.20 | *** topic/#tacobeam by gonkulator -> 57341h n1nj4 70p1ck || smrt=death (in czech!) || ChipX86 is a code monkey |
| 03:22.32 | brc_ | we never did remember to buy file a real live blueberry muffin at cluecon |
| 03:22.35 | KeyserLaptop | ChipX86: do you have to write a UI for each platform? or can you run just one under some kind of emulation, or virtual machine? :p |
| 03:22.37 | file | brc_: I tried |
| 03:22.42 | brc_ | so did I |
| 03:22.45 | file | when we went to Starbucks remember? |
| 03:22.50 | brc_ | I went the day before |
| 03:22.51 | file | but noooo, they were all out |
| 03:22.51 | brc_ | remember |
| 03:22.52 | ChipX86 | KeyserLaptop: we have a common codebase |
| 03:23.03 | *** topic/#tacobeam by gonkulator -> 57341h n1nj4 70p1ck || smrt=death (in czech!) || ChipX86 is a damn smart code monkey |
| 03:23.05 | ChipX86 | and we reuse parts for different UIs, or put some things in defines |
| 03:23.06 | gonkulator | thats better |
| 03:23.13 | ChipX86 | but we try to abstract rather well |
| 03:23.13 | pagefault | does a smart one still like bananas? |
| 03:23.21 | brc_ | I, as a matter of fact, accompanied tony on the first visit to said starbucks |
| 03:23.22 | file | pagefault: I would hope so |
| 03:23.27 | pagefault | I mean |
| 03:23.30 | pagefault | who doesn't like a banana? |
| 03:23.44 | pagefault | who has the bananas? |
| 03:23.47 | brc_ | and called said starbucks several times to get him directions from the latest location he was lost from |
| 03:23.52 | pagefault | yes |
| 03:23.53 | kergoth | hmm, speaking of fruit, methinks i'll get a peach |
| 03:24.01 | gonkulator | kergoth: so how does /ignore work? |
| 03:24.05 | ChipX86 | bbl |
| 03:24.10 | KeyserLaptop | i don't like peanut butter, either |
| 03:24.13 | brc_ | gonkulator, well, you see it's kind of confusing |
| 03:24.31 | brc_ | but if you type /ignore ChipX86 you will get +OPS! |
| 03:24.46 | kergoth | gonkulator: /ignore [nickname] or /ignore [mask], i.e. /ignore brc_ or /ignore brc*!*@*.blah.com or whatever |
| 03:24.49 | kergoth | heh |
| 03:24.53 | gonkulator | ah, thanks |
| 03:24.57 | kergoth | KeyserLaptop: allergic to peanuts, or just dont like it? |
| 03:25.22 | KeyserLaptop | just don't like it |
| 03:25.27 | wikibob | just incase anybody is wondering, the software for a rio forge SUCKS DONKEY |
| 03:25.35 | wikibob | which brings us to another subject |
| 03:25.38 | KeyserLaptop | i like the peanuts themselves fine, just not the butterized version |
| 03:25.48 | wikibob | file dear, did you remember to return the donkey? |
| 03:25.52 | wikibob | the late fees are astronomical |
| 03:26.17 | pagefault | who has the bananas? |
| 03:26.23 | pagefault | I am hungry |
| 03:27.23 | pagefault | I think you are strange KeyserLaptop |
| 03:28.18 | KeyserLaptop | oh, i don't like tomatoes either, although i like ketchup and tomato based sauces on italian foods |
| 03:28.42 | pagefault | yeah I don't like raw tomatoes |
| 03:28.49 | KeyserLaptop | really, i think it's a pretty short list of culinary dislikes |
| 03:28.59 | pagefault | hehe |
| 03:29.03 | pagefault | but how not liking bananas? |
| 03:29.04 | pagefault | that is odd |
| 03:29.19 | pagefault | you must be a fussy eater :) |
| 03:29.27 | KeyserLaptop | nope, just those 3 things |
| 03:29.44 | KeyserLaptop | and normal bananas, it's not really a dislike, it's just an indifference |
| 03:29.54 | gonkulator | wikibob: http://jurpa.us/MRO-Hack.mp4 |
| 03:29.59 | KeyserLaptop | but i abhor mushy bananas, and never want to risk it |
| 03:29.59 | pagefault | potatos are bananas? |
| 03:30.02 | pagefault | potatoes |
| 03:30.07 | KeyserLaptop | i love potatoes |
| 03:30.11 | file | pagefault: with a few genetic modifications, sure! |
| 03:30.16 | gonkulator | especially in the smashed form of potatoes |
| 03:30.20 | pagefault | hehe |
| 03:30.32 | pagefault | they both have a lot of starch |
| 03:31.40 | KeyserLaptop | i like chinese food, and thai food as long as it doesn't taste too strongly of peanuts |
| 03:31.54 | KeyserLaptop | i don't like sushi, or tofu |
| 03:32.07 | pagefault | thats now 5 things :) |
| 03:32.13 | KeyserLaptop | i like vegemite |
| 03:32.28 | KeyserLaptop | i don't think you can count not liking tofu against me |
| 03:32.34 | pagefault | yeah thats true |
| 03:32.37 | pagefault | I don't like it either |
| 03:32.39 | KeyserLaptop | that's really more about the tofu itself, than it's about me :) |
| 03:32.39 | pagefault | that or soy milk |
| 03:33.21 | KeyserLaptop | soy milk's density is too low |
| 03:33.31 | pagefault | I just think it tastes disgusting |
| 03:33.32 | file | this Polycom phone is dumb - it's software says it supports MESSAGE, I send it a MESSAGE, it says "OK!" but it does nothing |
| 03:33.36 | KeyserLaptop | you start to drink it, it gets warm in your mouth before it's all the way down |
| 03:33.39 | file | diddly squat... |
| 03:33.52 | pagefault | file, bananas? |
| 03:34.01 | KeyserLaptop | the only pizza topping i've disliked is anchovies |
| 03:34.03 | file | good idea |
| 03:34.09 | pagefault | file, bananas? |
| 03:34.10 | pagefault | oops |
| 03:34.12 | pagefault | for breakfast |
| 03:34.15 | KeyserLaptop | i like anchovies in moderation, in a caesar salad for instance |
| 03:34.28 | pagefault | I only like it when they are mushed up so I can't tell they are anchovies |
| 03:34.29 | file | pagefault: very very good idea |
| 03:34.40 | KeyserLaptop | and i'm okay with sardines, as long as there is an appropriate accompanyment |
| 03:35.11 | pagefault | file, what is on tv? |
| 03:36.09 | file | pagefault: nothing good |
| 03:36.15 | pagefault | file, bah |
| 03:36.42 | file | pagefault: My Family, an interesting british comedy, on YTV east |
| 03:37.03 | file | or just YTV... I dunno if they have different parts |
| 03:37.28 | KeyserLaptop | i've liked all the carribean food i've tried, especially several conch dishes |
| 03:37.46 | KeyserLaptop | and i ate at a puerto rican restaurant once, it was tasty |
| 03:38.00 | KeyserLaptop | i hear there's a good cuban place around here, but i haven't gone yet |
| 03:40.15 | file | the Taiwan express mail tracking system is cool |
| 03:40.29 | file | it even tells me what flight the package went out on |
| 03:40.40 | kergoth | bleh! |
| 03:40.50 | file | kergoth: blah! |
| 03:41.01 | KeyserLaptop | oh, there's this horrible thing i forget the name of, that one of my grandmothers made |
| 03:41.16 | kergoth | file: nah, definately bleh. |
| 03:41.17 | KeyserLaptop | it's a polish dish, and it can best be described as congealed pork-fat jello |
| 03:41.22 | kergoth | ewww |
| 03:41.23 | KeyserLaptop | didn't care for that |
| 03:41.31 | file | kergoth: you're the master! |
| 03:45.09 | gonkulator | file: have you noticed a memory leak with dashboard? |
| 03:45.30 | gonkulator | mebbe I just have a bad widget... |
| 03:45.39 | wikibob | gonkulator, awesome, thanks |
| 03:45.54 | gonkulator | wikibob: yep, glad you enjoyed it |
| 03:45.56 | file | I avoid dashboard |
| 04:10.09 | *** join/#tacobeam SecretMethod70 (i=SecretMe@c-67-173-67-244.hsd1.il.comcast.net) |
| 04:23.09 | file | yay The Epoxies |
| 04:24.18 | numist | yay moby |
| 04:31.26 | *** join/#tacobeam spooklight (n=jamie@69.238.196.91) |
| 04:31.34 | gonkulator | oooh, its spooklight |
| 04:31.40 | gonkulator | spooklight: ChipX86 isn't around |
| 04:31.48 | spooklight | hello |
| 04:31.50 | spooklight | oh |
| 04:31.51 | numist | hey spooklight |
| 04:31.58 | spooklight | hello :) |
| 04:32.09 | numist | heh, everyone knows why spooklight is here all of a sudden? what if she came to visit the other tacobeamers? |
| 04:33.11 | gonkulator | chippy on the other hand, now *that* makes perfect sense |
| 04:33.17 | numist | hehe |
| 04:33.37 | spooklight | haha |
| 04:33.38 | spooklight | hoho |
| 04:33.42 | numist | to the funny farm |
| 04:33.44 | spooklight | you guys rock! |
| 04:33.52 | numist | >D |
| 04:33.53 | kergoth | haha, i love that song |
| 04:33.54 | spooklight | "with trees and flowers..." |
| 04:34.07 | kergoth | who's it by? |
| 04:34.19 | numist | I thought you'd know |
| 04:34.20 | spooklight | "...and chirping birds" |
| 04:34.25 | numist | :D |
| 04:34.30 | spooklight | that's about all i know |
| 04:34.53 | numist | its a riot |
| 04:34.54 | spooklight | aww |
| 04:35.08 | spooklight | isn't it by weird al? |
| 04:35.13 | kergoth | napoleon XIV - they're coming to take me away (ha haa!) |
| 04:35.23 | spooklight | oh ok |
| 04:35.23 | numist | :) |
| 04:35.26 | kergoth | googled for 'funny farm "trees and flowers"' |
| 04:35.27 | kergoth | hehe |
| 04:35.41 | spooklight | gotta love google |
| 04:36.09 | numist | the benevolent dictator of internet finding, we'd be lost without them |
| 04:36.35 | kergoth | aha |
| 04:36.48 | spooklight | they've led us out of the dark ages |
| 04:36.54 | kergoth | that song is on the 2nd disc of this dr demento album.. i have hte first cd for "monster mash", but never got the second disc |
| 04:37.04 | numist | yay kergoth |
| 04:37.56 | kergoth | grabbing that disc at 90K/s |
| 04:37.57 | kergoth | :) |
| 04:38.02 | numist | woot |
| 04:38.19 | nullpuppy | kergoth: oh.. dude... |
| 04:38.23 | nullpuppy | new disturbed |
| 04:38.27 | nullpuppy | not sure its out yet though... |
| 04:38.34 | nullpuppy | but you need to get that for me :) |
| 04:38.44 | kergoth | ooh |
| 04:38.54 | nullpuppy | :) |
| 04:38.58 | kergoth | i also need the new 311, cause i really like hte new single |
| 04:39.14 | nullpuppy | awww, 9/20 :( |
| 04:39.25 | nullpuppy | too damn far away |
| 04:39.54 | kergoth | hehe, lots of great novelty tracks on dr demento |
| 04:40.19 | kergoth | frank zappa.. spike jones.. the firm - star trekkin', etc |
| 04:40.26 | nullpuppy | :) |
| 04:41.57 | kergoth | starrrrr trekkin, across the universe.. boldly going forward, because we cant find reverse! |
| 04:41.58 | gonkulator | spike jones! |
| 04:42.15 | gonkulator | howdy purple_cow |
| 04:42.19 | numist | no realli! |
| 04:42.36 | kergoth | numist: i learned from invader zim that a moose can be very scary |
| 04:42.49 | numist | lol |
| 04:42.52 | nullpuppy | oooh, zim |
| 04:42.53 | nullpuppy | good idea |
| 04:42.54 | numist | mooses are realli big |
| 04:43.26 | numist | :) |
| 04:44.15 | nullpuppy | one of these days i should author all my zim so i can watch it on the tv |
| 04:44.32 | kergoth | i should buy the dvd volumes that i dont have, only have one of them |
| 04:44.41 | kergoth | the bonus material with the artists and stuff is great |
| 04:45.09 | purple_cow | http://zero.navi.cx/gallery/tetons-2005/IMG_0691?full=1 |
| 04:45.41 | kergoth | haha, yay dr demento album |
| 04:46.17 | gonkulator | thats a moose |
| 04:46.19 | kergoth | "I ache for the touch of your lips dear, but much more for the touch of your whips dear. You can raise welts like nobody else, as we dance to the machochism tango!" |
| 04:46.19 | spooklight | purple_cow, oh wow, you were....serious...? |
| 04:46.25 | purple_cow | spooklight: yep |
| 04:46.31 | nullpuppy | i miss jbot :( |
| 04:46.31 | kergoth | purple_cow: neat |
| 04:46.42 | spooklight | purple_cow, where exactly is this? |
| 04:46.56 | kergoth | i'm betting its the tetons |
| 04:47.00 | kergoth | just a wild guess |
| 04:47.01 | purple_cow | kergoth: bingo |
| 04:47.01 | kergoth | :P |
| 04:47.02 | numist | nice, purple_cow |
| 04:47.03 | nullpuppy | oooh, a moose! |
| 04:47.26 | spooklight | purple_cow, lucky |
| 04:47.49 | kergoth | what the.. |
| 04:47.50 | kergoth | 22:43 [Freenode] -!- wikibob [n=zoxinato@pdpc/supporter/basic/brc] |
| 04:47.50 | kergoth | 22:43 [Freenode] -!- ircname : zoxinator |
| 04:47.50 | kergoth | 22:43 [Freenode] -!- channels : #tacobeam #asterisk-dev @#asterisk-bugs #moosepenis #plugaz #aefirion |
| 04:47.53 | kergoth | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:47.54 | purple_cow | hah. between the 3 cameras we were carrying, we have 34 photos of that moose :) |
| 04:47.58 | kergoth | #moosepenis? i really dont want to know |
| 04:48.01 | nullpuppy | hahahaha |
| 04:48.10 | spooklight | purple_cow, why were you in the tetons? |
| 04:48.11 | file | Inside Asterisk joke |
| 04:48.17 | numist | ... |
| 04:48.22 | purple_cow | spooklight: still here |
| 04:48.33 | spooklight | ...lucky... |
| 04:48.37 | kergoth | pretty weird that we were talkinga bout a moose, then i glanced at my window 1 and saw that channel |
| 04:48.43 | kergoth | oddly coincidental |
| 04:48.47 | gonkulator | kergoth: why did you do a /whois? |
| 04:48.56 | kergoth | gonkulator: to select an appropriate hostmask for the ignore |
| 04:49.01 | gonkulator | ah, right |
| 04:49.04 | purple_cow | who is wikibob anyways? |
| 04:49.08 | gonkulator | brc_ |
| 04:49.11 | kergoth | someone who followed file into here |
| 04:49.12 | purple_cow | oh |
| 04:49.16 | purple_cow | heh |
| 04:49.31 | gonkulator | not anywhere near as bad as fishhead or cell |
| 04:49.50 | kergoth | fishhead gets banned from #elinux on a pretty regular basis |
| 04:50.04 | gonkulator | spooklight: you need to have ChipX86 tell you the story of puppy |
| 04:50.07 | gonkulator | its a really good story :) |
| 04:50.22 | spooklight | what story? |
| 04:50.36 | gonkulator | its ChipX86's story |
| 04:50.49 | spooklight | is this something recent? |
| 04:50.55 | gonkulator | no, its pretty old |
| 04:51.00 | numist | wait, I followed ChipX86 in here, how many of you have me on /ignore? |
| 04:51.12 | file | he saw #tacobeam on my IRC client at the conference |
| 04:51.16 | file | and added it to his autojoin list |
| 04:51.24 | nullpuppy | "i put the fires out" "you made them worse!" "worse ... or better!?" |
| 04:51.30 | kergoth | numist: :D |
| 04:51.31 | kergoth | erm |
| 04:51.32 | kergoth | nullpuppy: :D |
| 04:51.56 | gonkulator | numist: thats a bad question to get no response to :) |
| 04:52.06 | kergoth | "all seems in tune on a spring afternoon.. when we're poisoning pigeons in the park" |
| 04:52.08 | numist | gonkulator: yeah, esp since you're the only person to respond :P |
| 04:52.18 | nullpuppy | hahah |
| 04:52.26 | purple_cow | welp, i should get to bed |
| 04:52.30 | gonkulator | later purple_cow |
| 04:52.30 | spooklight | kergoth, ah, memories |
| 04:52.33 | nullpuppy | numist: i have you on ignore! |
| 04:52.38 | nullpuppy | well, not really.. |
| 04:52.42 | numist | :D |
| 04:54.52 | *** join/#tacobeam JeffM2501 (n=jeffm@pdpc/supporter/sustaining/JeffM2501) |
| 04:55.05 | gonkulator | ok, bedtime for me too |
| 04:55.21 | spooklight | good night |
| 04:55.32 | gonkulator | g'night spooklight, everyone else |
| 04:55.42 | kergoth | night gonk |
| 04:55.42 | nullpuppy | "its not stupid, its advaanced" |
| 04:55.47 | kergoth | yay gir |
| 04:55.53 | nullpuppy | yay |
| 04:56.07 | spooklight | girrrrrrrr! |
| 04:56.22 | kergoth | dooom doooooomy doomy doom dooom |
| 04:56.25 | nullpuppy | doomy doomy doom dooooooooooom |
| 04:56.27 | kergoth | haha |
| 04:56.28 | kergoth | :) |
| 04:57.20 | nullpuppy | i still really want a soundtrack from the series |
| 04:57.24 | nullpuppy | i love the music in it |
| 04:58.28 | nullpuppy | "and be quiet, you want to wake up the whole planet?" "i dooo" |
| 04:58.39 | kergoth | hehe |
| 04:58.43 | kergoth | i love it when he emulates the squirrel |
| 04:58.58 | nullpuppy | yeah, me too |
| 04:59.09 | nullpuppy | i love the scene when the house comes up too |
| 04:59.15 | nullpuppy | "we can't afford to make sound!" |
| 04:59.36 | kergoth | hehe. yeah, he's all whistling innocently |
| 04:59.44 | nullpuppy | yeah |
| 05:00.16 | nullpuppy | I <3 Earth |
| 05:01.11 | nullpuppy | hmm.. can you do a.. gradient transparency in gimp? |
| 05:11.00 | scanlime | nullpuppy: yes, there are several ways to |
| 05:14.52 | scanlime | "Atm Deposit $5,897.93 (pending)" |
| 05:14.53 | scanlime | ahhhh.... |
| 05:15.13 | numist | nice! |
| 05:16.25 | kergoth | damn! hiring bonus or something? |
| 05:16.28 | kergoth | heh |
| 05:16.35 | kergoth | hmm, should sleep |
| 05:16.45 | scanlime | yeah, relocation bonus |
| 05:16.49 | numist | dang |
| 05:17.05 | scanlime | plus it's for more than a normal pay period, since I got here just past the cutoff for one pay period |
| 05:17.53 | numist | well, thats all sorted out now, isnt it |
| 05:18.38 | scanlime | hah, this confirmation from waiter.com has orders from everybody tonight, not just me |
| 05:19.14 | scanlime | now we just need a database and some computer vision software to catch those food thieves... |
| 05:25.09 | nullpuppy | scanlime: so.. how would you do a gradient transparency? |
| 05:25.27 | scanlime | my favorite way is with alpha masks, then drawing a grayscale gradient onto the mask |
| 05:25.41 | scanlime | but you can also just do gradients between translucent colors |
| 05:25.44 | nullpuppy | hmm, ok |
| 05:26.10 | nullpuppy | well.. i'm looking to do some distortions to a photo.. |
| 05:26.17 | nullpuppy | so, yeah.. hmm, ok |
| 05:27.20 | scanlime | maybe back up and explain what you're doing? |
| 05:28.03 | nullpuppy | ok, well.. what i'm doing right now is i have a picture that i've duplicated, make semi-transparent and flipped horizontally |
| 05:28.31 | nullpuppy | i want to alter the way the transparency looks.. and i think i got it |
| 05:37.22 | nullpuppy | hahaha, i never noticed that before |
| 05:37.30 | nullpuppy | gir yelled "I'm naked!" in ep 3 |
| 05:37.35 | kergoth | hehe |
| 05:37.37 | kergoth | yep |
| 05:37.50 | nullpuppy | "aww, my bees" |
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| 06:03.11 | scanlime | hmm |
| 06:03.30 | scanlime | I bet I could give my cheapo hotswap hard disk enclosure dual hotswappable power supplies :) |
| 06:04.18 | scanlime | mwahaha... |
| 06:04.32 | scanlime | yes.. 4 hotswap disks, 2 hot swap power supplies.. under $100 |
| 06:05.41 | numist | whered you get 4 disks? |
| 06:05.46 | numist | and how do you intend to do hotswapping? |
| 06:07.03 | scanlime | I already had plenty of disks from navi |
| 06:07.12 | scanlime | disk hotswapping is with USB adaptors |
| 06:07.22 | scanlime | and those cheap removable hard disk enclosures |
| 06:07.37 | scanlime | wire the USB adaptors so they only power up when the disk is locked into the enclosure |
| 06:08.00 | scanlime | could probably do the power supply hotswapping with diodes if the disks can tolerate a tiny voltage drop.. |
| 06:32.18 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10bzflag/ (5 files in 3 dirs): |
| 06:32.18 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: custom group permisions |
| 06:32.18 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: api exposure of permisions |
| 06:32.18 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: doc update to include permision functions |
| 06:32.18 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: API version bump |
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| 07:38.31 | scanlime | *cough* |
| 07:38.43 | scanlime | this stuff must be just loaded with substances known by the state of california to cause cancer |
| 07:38.53 | scanlime | and it smells awful |
| 07:47.00 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10bzflag/ (include/bzfsAPI.h src/bzfs/bzfsAPI.cxx): function to get a list of all bzdb var names. |
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| 12:37.13 | gonkulator | hey Sophie_ |
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| 13:00.58 | Cae | ChipX86 is a damn smart code monkey, eh? |
| 13:01.13 | Cae | ChipX86: if you are currently awake, GO TO SLEEP |
| 13:18.23 | Sophie_ | ow. cramps |
| 13:18.56 | Sophie_ | oooowwww. |
| 13:50.13 | gonkulator | hello Cae |
| 13:50.22 | gonkulator | hi Sophie_ |
| 13:50.33 | Cae | morning gonkulator |
| 13:53.11 | *** join/#tacobeam file[laptop] (n=jcolp@mctn1-1335.nb.aliant.net) |
| 13:54.39 | gonkulator | wow... 39% of internet users delete cookies |
| 13:57.45 | Sophie_ | thanks Cae :) |
| 13:57.56 | Cae | hehe |
| 14:11.03 | Veight | morning |
| 14:11.20 | Cae | gonkulator: you got Daved, didn't you? |
| 14:17.34 | gonkulator | Cae: yep |
| 14:18.49 | KeyserSoze | if you have stuff coming from stdin, and you want to write it to stdout *only* if it's not in a file, what's the most efficient way to do that? |
| 14:18.58 | KeyserSoze | (in bash I mean) |
| 14:24.08 | gonkulator | Cae: how did you guess? |
| 14:24.37 | Cae | gonkulator: I did too |
| 14:24.58 | gonkulator | vim is always shocked when people talk about him |
| 14:40.48 | gonkulator | morning slimspace |
| 14:40.56 | slimspace | morning gonkulator |
| 14:41.08 | gonkulator | slimspace: I don't suppose you have an extra 2.5" drive, do you? |
| 14:41.27 | slimspace | I've got a couple of 10gb drives |
| 14:41.54 | gonkulator | ooooh |
| 14:41.57 | gonkulator | may I have one? |
| 14:42.07 | slimspace | I suppose so |
| 14:42.10 | gonkulator | w00t |
| 14:51.08 | gonkulator | slimspace: so... will you be around on friday? |
| 14:51.28 | slimspace | for a little while |
| 14:51.38 | gonkulator | hmm... what time? |
| 14:52.37 | slimspace | I'll probably be gone by around 6 or so |
| 14:52.44 | gonkulator | ok |
| 14:53.33 | slimspace | did you have anything you were going to bring by? |
| 14:54.04 | gonkulator | I remember thinking about that but don't recall what I had in mind |
| 14:54.28 | slimspace | something about coffee? |
| 14:54.33 | gonkulator | oh yeah :) |
| 15:05.05 | kergoth | boo, tuesday |
| 15:28.48 | Veight | you goto work? |
| 15:36.12 | file[laptop] | what's up? |
| 15:46.35 | kergoth | yay productivity |
| 15:46.39 | kergoth | Veight: yes |
| 15:51.41 | scanlime | blah, can't dump the db... |
| 15:58.34 | gonkulator | file[laptop]: I was being productive |
| 15:58.39 | kergoth | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:58.45 | file[laptop] | productive?!? |
| 15:59.27 | kergoth | whee, i'm gonna get to hack on networking kernel code for the first time ever here |
| 15:59.30 | kergoth | fun |
| 15:59.31 | kergoth | :) |
| 15:59.33 | file[laptop] | silly customers blaming our stuff when it's their stuff |
| 15:59.40 | kergoth | customers like doing that |
| 15:59.43 | file[laptop] | "We're not getting any packets from your stuff." |
| 15:59.47 | file[laptop] | "Yes you are, I have them right here. |
| 15:59.54 | file[laptop] | "Oh - please hold." |
| 16:00.49 | kergoth | haha |
| 16:03.06 | file[laptop] | I know for a fact this guy's system is just setup wrong and he has no clue what he's doing |
| 16:03.17 | file[laptop] | but I don't feel like even mentioning that we do consulting on this because I don't want to deal with him |
| 16:10.49 | scanlime | ahh |
| 16:10.54 | scanlime | thank gooness for rsync --bwlimit |
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| 16:35.04 | gonkulator | oh well |
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| 16:44.52 | numist | gonkulator: I just got up and had a shower. rather sick :( |
| 16:51.33 | file | bah |
| 16:51.37 | file | the system overwrote my modifications |
| 16:59.38 | ChipX86 | huh, spam for "sweet virgins that love hard core sex" |
| 16:59.46 | ChipX86 | let's play, "spot the impossibility!" |
| 16:59.51 | nullpuppy | haha |
| 17:00.33 | numist | wow, this is a hard game |
| 17:03.39 | file | must... kill... something |
| 17:04.21 | ChipX86 | hahaha |
| 17:04.22 | kergoth | whee, todo list is nearing 2 pages. damnit |
| 17:06.37 | Cae | heh |
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| 17:13.36 | ChipX86 | hmm.. to work I think |
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| 17:42.08 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10bzflag/ (16 files in 8 dirs): |
| 17:42.08 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: like totaly make it build on windows again |
| 17:42.08 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: ares and curl can suck it. |
| 17:46.51 | scanlime | 10:10 -!- Irssi: Your nick is owned by Micah [I=micah@freenode/bot/micah] |
| 17:46.54 | scanlime | I'm a bot now?? |
| 17:46.59 | numist | buahaha |
| 17:47.24 | Cae | scanlime: weren't you always? |
| 17:47.33 | scanlime | inconclusive... |
| 17:48.04 | numist | :P |
| 17:48.12 | nullpuppy | scanlime: hahah |
| 17:48.18 | numist | Ive never seen scanlime identify to nickserv :P |
| 17:48.43 | scanlime | I set up xchat to do it automatically recently, so I actually identify... |
| 17:49.12 | nullpuppy | i really should do that myself one of these days |
| 17:49.46 | numist | :P |
| 17:53.09 | kergoth | man, i hate ripping apart a monolithic patch from a vendor to try to determine what patches they applied |
| 17:53.12 | kergoth | so annoying |
| 18:04.51 | scanlime | wow |
| 18:05.02 | scanlime | I can't believe I remembered what that was called... |
| 18:05.25 | Cae | hm? |
| 18:05.46 | scanlime | the Rabin-Karp string searching algorithm |
| 18:05.51 | scanlime | but it's not the one I was looking for |
| 18:06.21 | scanlime | ah.. Knuth-Morris-Pratt |
| 18:06.38 | scanlime | that's the one I implemented in firmware for scanning radio transmissions at Space Grant... |
| 18:06.42 | scanlime | kind of overkill for this |
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| 18:09.07 | scanlime | mmm.. yay wikipedia |
| 18:09.21 | numist | yay |
| 18:09.57 | scanlime | saves me from lugging around a big algorithms book |
| 18:16.04 | kergoth | i really need to read more about algos |
| 18:17.07 | ChipX86 | my replacement graphics card should come in today :) |
| 18:17.16 | ChipX86 | well, it should have come in yesterday, but definitely by today |
| 18:19.06 | pagefault | WoW? |
| 18:19.32 | ChipX86 | no, for work |
| 18:19.41 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10bzflag/include/bzfsAPI.h: api don't need or want config, since the plugins may not even have it :) |
| 18:19.56 | ChipX86 | my old card was being problematic and stopped working, so I had to bring one in from home (Which I very much want back). They ordered me a new GeForce card |
| 18:20.11 | ChipX86 | brb |
| 18:23.21 | pagefault | hehe |
| 18:23.58 | kergoth | at least its ubuntu now, could be worse |
| 18:24.36 | pagefault | like what? redhat? |
| 18:27.39 | kergoth | yes, or the slackware it used to have on it :P |
| 18:28.15 | pagefault | hehe |
| 18:28.17 | pagefault | I like slackware |
| 18:30.02 | pagefault | hmm |
| 18:30.09 | pagefault | bell.ca finally lists 5mbit as their ultra service |
| 18:33.16 | file | beautiful |
| 18:34.36 | pagefault | I wish they would offer 6mbit to home users |
| 18:34.41 | pagefault | business can get it |
| 18:34.57 | numist | I wish theyd offer sync, or at least 1mbit up to home users here :/ |
| 18:35.19 | pagefault | you can't get DSL? |
| 18:36.17 | numist | not offered at competitive rates for what I want |
| 18:36.28 | pagefault | that sucks |
| 18:36.32 | numist | baby bell still wants you to bend over |
| 18:36.42 | pagefault | $49 CAD here for a 5mbit line |
| 18:36.57 | numist | see, thats quite nice |
| 18:37.16 | numist | pagefault: you are in the toronto area, correct? |
| 18:37.25 | pagefault | yeah |
| 18:37.43 | numist | what are you doing christmastime? |
| 18:38.40 | pagefault | hmm |
| 18:38.44 | pagefault | probably nothing :) |
| 18:39.57 | numist | excellent, we will have to go to town at some point |
| 18:42.34 | file | yay our lawsuit made groklaw |
| 18:43.34 | numist | ? |
| 18:44.00 | pagefault | cool man |
| 18:44.05 | pagefault | you going to be here? |
| 18:44.21 | pagefault | maybe file can get stuck in the airport again |
| 18:44.25 | file | http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=2005080914234645 |
| 18:44.30 | file | pfft |
| 18:45.39 | numist | pagefault: yeah, Ill be there for christmas, thinking of driving >D |
| 18:47.00 | pagefault | hehe |
| 18:47.03 | pagefault | cool |
| 18:47.12 | numist | if I drive, Ill need to buy a block heater though :/ |
| 18:47.53 | pagefault | ah no heat? that could be a problem |
| 18:48.12 | numist | well, in california, block heaters are not necessary as the engine cant possibly get so cold it wouldnt start ;) |
| 18:48.23 | numist | at least, in my parts this is true |
| 18:48.32 | scanlime | 'cold' doesn't exist in california |
| 18:48.38 | numist | Tahoe it does |
| 18:48.41 | pagefault | oh block heater, well I don't think you will need one |
| 18:48.43 | numist | but, its an anomaly :) |
| 18:48.45 | pagefault | I don't have one |
| 18:48.52 | pagefault | most people don't actually |
| 18:48.53 | numist | hrm |
| 18:49.08 | numist | I was in winnipeg last christmas... damn was I happy my uncle's van was all set up.. |
| 18:49.15 | numist | -55*C and it started on the first turn |
| 18:49.21 | pagefault | hehe |
| 18:49.27 | pagefault | I don't know if they do anything different to cars made here |
| 18:49.28 | numist | is wasnt terribly happy about starting, but it did it anyway |
| 18:49.31 | numist | hrm |
| 18:49.54 | pagefault | I doubt you will have any problems though |
| 18:50.10 | numist | alrighty then, scratch the block heater... I wont need it till nuclear winter :) |
| 18:50.24 | pagefault | it doesn't really get that cold until january anyway |
| 18:50.31 | numist | true |
| 18:50.43 | numist | besides, my car is black :D |
| 18:50.47 | pagefault | hehe |
| 18:52.18 | pagefault | I hate driving in the winter here though |
| 18:52.53 | numist | why? |
| 18:53.03 | pagefault | well mostly other people |
| 18:53.04 | numist | I like driving in canada any time of year, because people know *how* :) |
| 18:53.06 | pagefault | they can't drive |
| 18:53.11 | numist | says you, my friend |
| 18:53.26 | nullpuppy | ok.. time to go get my kitchen cleaned up and prepped for brewing.. :) |
| 18:53.35 | numist | these people cant drive when the driving conditions are perfect, let alone when its raining |
| 18:53.45 | numist | nullpuppy: brewing? |
| 18:53.49 | nullpuppy | yup |
| 18:53.50 | nullpuppy | beer |
| 18:53.55 | scanlime | fun |
| 18:54.00 | kergoth | woo, beer |
| 18:54.01 | nullpuppy | http://www.nulldomain.com/node/79 |
| 18:54.15 | pagefault | numist, haha |
| 18:54.18 | nullpuppy | going to document the process via blog and picture too :) |
| 18:54.23 | pagefault | don't blow your house up |
| 18:54.35 | nullpuppy | haha |
| 18:54.42 | pagefault | people will think you are running a meth lab |
| 18:54.43 | nullpuppy | dude, I am not going to blow the house up :) |
| 18:55.00 | nullpuppy | and the worse that would happen right now is the fermenter would bust from pressure |
| 18:55.07 | nullpuppy | which would then make a mess |
| 18:55.11 | numist | dont jinx yourself |
| 18:55.18 | nullpuppy | but its not going to blow the house up :) |
| 18:55.34 | kergoth | lets start a pool. who thinks he's going to blow the house up, and when? |
| 18:55.35 | kergoth | :P |
| 18:55.36 | pagefault | hehe |
| 18:55.39 | pagefault | well let me know how turns out |
| 18:55.39 | nullpuppy | rofl |
| 18:55.42 | pagefault | I might give it a go if it's good |
| 18:55.44 | nullpuppy | will do |
| 18:56.05 | pagefault | does it work out cheaper than buying it? |
| 18:56.18 | numist | works out better, if what Im told is to be believed |
| 18:56.24 | nullpuppy | i'm not sure |
| 18:56.35 | pagefault | there is a U-brew place behind my house |
| 18:56.39 | nullpuppy | i had to spend $145 to get everything i need to get started |
| 18:56.39 | pagefault | I should check it out |
| 18:56.52 | numist | dang |
| 18:56.58 | nullpuppy | spent $22 on reusable 22oz bottles |
| 18:57.01 | numist | doing it for the love, not for the savings, eh? |
| 18:57.02 | pagefault | null lager |
| 18:57.19 | numist | null lager? |
| 18:57.21 | nullpuppy | not sure what the cost of the ingredients were, they were included in the 'kit |
| 18:57.22 | nullpuppy | ' |
| 18:57.27 | pagefault | yeah he should call it that |
| 18:57.27 | numist | Id buy a bottle that said \0 Lager on it |
| 18:57.45 | nullpuppy | numist: what i'm gonna try to make first is a wheat beer |
| 18:57.46 | numist | more of a fan of reds myself |
| 18:57.47 | pagefault | then the commoners would call it slash zero lager |
| 18:57.54 | nullpuppy | but.. damn \0 Lager sounds like fun :) |
| 18:57.58 | numist | pagefault: and we would be superior :D |
| 18:58.09 | darth_mall | slimspace: are you around? |
| 18:58.10 | nullpuppy | that'd be awesome |
| 18:58.12 | numist | NULL lager :D |
| 18:58.13 | nullpuppy | i'll have to do that ;) |
| 18:58.17 | numist | :D |
| 18:58.33 | nullpuppy | after the weissbier though :) |
| 18:58.40 | scanlime | mmm, \0 |
| 18:59.01 | pagefault | I need to bring my PC outside and get rid of all the dust collecting inside |
| 18:59.16 | numist | I need an air compressor.. same reason |
| 19:00.40 | pagefault | I think I will do that now |
| 19:00.41 | pagefault | brb |
| 19:07.10 | scanlime | s/NULL/NUL/ |
| 19:08.19 | numist | #define NULL NUL :P |
| 19:08.53 | scanlime | pf |
| 19:08.59 | scanlime | NULL is a pointer, NUL is an ascii character |
| 19:09.05 | numist | true |
| 19:09.22 | scanlime | you can have your NULL beer, but it would be (void*)0 rather than '\0' |
| 19:09.32 | numist | hehe |
| 19:09.40 | numist | better taste, less filling >D |
| 19:09.44 | scanlime | :) |
| 19:12.09 | scanlime | and I hate... elevator music |
| 19:12.19 | numist | hehe |
| 19:12.56 | kergoth | hmmm |
| 19:40.41 | ChipX86 | scanlime: adding a new Guest OS type ;) |
| 19:40.49 | file[laptop] | oh no! |
| 19:40.54 | scanlime | ChipX86: haha |
| 19:41.38 | file[laptop] | does it start with an M? |
| 19:42.01 | ChipX86 | nope! |
| 19:42.10 | ChipX86 | if you're referring to MacOS X, I'm afraid we don't support that |
| 19:42.11 | file[laptop] | then I don't :( |
| 19:42.17 | ChipX86 | I'm adding support for an open source kernel |
| 19:42.22 | file[laptop] | yay |
| 19:42.22 | ChipX86 | it starts with a D |
| 19:42.30 | file[laptop] | like the dolphin? |
| 19:42.34 | file[laptop] | from Seaquest DSV? |
| 19:43.46 | nullpuppy | ChipX86: haha, cool! :) |
| 19:44.33 | numist | Im pretty sure he doesnt mean *DSB |
| 19:44.36 | numist | or is that BSD... ;) |
| 19:44.57 | scanlime | we've had FreeDSB support for years |
| 19:45.08 | file[laptop] | Darwin |
| 19:45.20 | numist | we have a winner! |
| 19:45.24 | nullpuppy | what? |
| 19:45.44 | file[laptop] | Darwin != BSD |
| 19:46.00 | nullpuppy | yup, I know |
| 19:46.14 | file[laptop] | I should email this... seller... to see if they shipped my router |
| 19:46.19 | scanlime | darwin uses some of the same userspace utilities- that's like saying that Linux is based on HURD since both use GNU userspace stuffs |
| 19:46.39 | numist | scanlime: except I recall linux came first, didnt it? |
| 19:46.46 | scanlime | either way |
| 19:46.46 | ChipX86 | I should make it clear that we do NOT support MacOS X |
| 19:46.53 | ChipX86 | and we have not gone and added support for it |
| 19:46.58 | file[laptop] | I didn't say you did, honest |
| 19:47.04 | numist | *sip* |
| 19:47.06 | numist | erm |
| 19:47.08 | nullpuppy | I could've sworn darwin was originally based off of freebsd... i'm not saying its really anything like it anymore... but I though thats where it originated... |
| 19:47.08 | numist | *zip* |
| 19:47.18 | scanlime | numist: no |
| 19:47.18 | ChipX86 | nullpuppy: yaeh, I think so |
| 19:47.19 | scanlime | er |
| 19:47.19 | numist | nullpuppy: darwin is a bsd-derivative, yes |
| 19:47.31 | nullpuppy | which is all that i was implying :) |
| 19:47.32 | scanlime | sigh. |
| 19:47.45 | file[laptop] | yay sent |
| 19:47.45 | scanlime | yay, crashy... |
| 19:47.53 | numist | darwins debug output on boot still says copyright the Regents of the University of California |
| 19:48.06 | scanlime | the U of C owns everything :P |
| 19:48.18 | numist | yeah, but I can only think of one kernel they own ;) |
| 19:48.39 | ChipX86 | I read that as Reagents and pictured alchemy scrolls and stones and herbs |
| 19:48.47 | numist | :D |
| 19:48.55 | file[laptop] | ChipX86: geek |
| 19:48.56 | scanlime | hehe |
| 19:49.25 | numist | I have to go home before I die.. later |
| 19:49.49 | file[laptop] | death is bad mmmk? |
| 19:50.55 | nullpuppy | hrm.. i need something to store my sodium bisulfate mixture in |
| 19:51.19 | scanlime | tupperware |
| 19:51.31 | ChipX86 | I need to charge my cell phone. I wonder if the rio power supply is the same |
| 19:51.49 | scanlime | hah |
| 19:52.13 | nullpuppy | hmm, maybe.. needs to hold a gallon |
| 19:52.21 | file[laptop] | if by same you mean completely different unusable, yes! |
| 19:56.15 | kergoth | hmmmm, i should get my mp3 player out of hte car |
| 19:56.17 | kergoth | too damn quiet here |
| 19:57.17 | file[laptop] | does your workstation not have loud speakers that will make your coworkers irritated? |
| 20:00.33 | nullpuppy | w00t! i have a bucket |
| 20:04.02 | kergoth | nullpuppy: umm.. yay? |
| 20:04.08 | kergoth | file[laptop]: no :( |
| 20:04.13 | nullpuppy | hehe |
| 20:04.14 | file[laptop] | kergoth: that's sad |
| 20:04.43 | scanlime | hmm |
| 20:05.05 | ChipX86 | and it works? |
| 20:05.36 | scanlime | appears to |
| 20:05.40 | scanlime | after about the third rewrite... |
| 20:05.48 | ChipX86 | heh |
| 20:06.01 | scanlime | it worked at each iteration, but we kept changing our minds about the implementation |
| 20:06.03 | ChipX86 | you're on main, right? |
| 20:06.04 | scanlime | :P |
| 20:06.06 | scanlime | yea |
| 20:06.39 | scanlime | I haven't checked anything in in a while.. I'll prolly send this stuff out for review in a bit, but I don't know when it will appear on main |
| 20:06.59 | scanlime | heh |
| 20:07.03 | ChipX86 | slow today |
| 20:07.14 | ChipX86 | I'm trying to commit work :( |
| 20:07.24 | scanlime | committing is for losers |
| 20:07.32 | ChipX86 | I'm a huge loser then |
| 20:07.36 | scanlime | yep |
| 20:08.00 | scanlime | we'd have lots fewer perforce problems if we only let people commit once a month :) |
| 20:09.02 | scanlime | hmm, should probably test this on windows.. even though I didn't end up touching the platform-specific parts of this change |
| 20:10.55 | ChipX86 | meh, need to charge the cell phone |
| 20:11.15 | scanlime | $ p4 revert ... |
| 20:11.16 | scanlime | Path '/cygdrive/c/p4\...' is not under client's root 'c:/p4'. |
| 20:13.05 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10bzflag/plugins/RogueGenocide/ (4 files): |
| 20:13.05 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: remove the storage of the rogue list, since we don't need it or use it. |
| 20:13.05 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: kill the right people at the right time once and only once. |
| 20:13.05 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: don't kill non spawned people. |
| 20:13.05 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: update windows projects to current standards. |
| 20:35.28 | scanlime | yay.. 6 big patches sent off for review |
| 20:37.33 | numist | woo |
| 20:38.27 | slimspace | darth_mall: ping |
| 20:56.55 | kergoth | i should really stop skipping breakfast and lunch. |
| 20:57.05 | file[laptop] | I need to buy a lock for my door |
| 21:07.37 | ChipX86 | kergoth: same |
| 21:07.39 | ChipX86 | I should go find food |
| 21:08.36 | ChipX86 | http://tinyurl.com/ag5ro |
| 21:08.50 | darth_mall | slimspace: nevermind |
| 21:10.34 | Cae | home :) |
| 21:10.36 | Cae | have fun guys |
| 21:12.57 | ChipX86 | google so needs that |
| 21:13.06 | ChipX86 | and yet, it scares me a little |
| 21:13.25 | ChipX86 | the distance between the Real World and The Wired is closing |
| 21:16.01 | scanlime | hehe |
| 21:22.19 | nullpuppy | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:22.22 | nullpuppy | hhahaha |
| 21:22.44 | ChipX86 | scanlime: VMware has become a bad name at Apple because people are using it to make OS X work :( |
| 21:23.50 | scanlime | ChipX86: how is this manifested? |
| 21:24.07 | ChipX86 | dunno, MattG just mentioend that in a thread with Regis and I |
| 21:24.13 | scanlime | hm |
| 21:25.00 | nullpuppy | http://gallery.nulldomain.com/v/Photography/Homebrew/Weissbier/ |
| 21:25.05 | nullpuppy | :) |
| 21:25.52 | ChipX86 | cool. making beer sounds fun |
| 21:25.56 | nullpuppy | :) |
| 21:25.57 | ChipX86 | except I don't drink beer, so it'd be pointless |
| 21:26.01 | nullpuppy | hehe |
| 21:26.08 | nullpuppy | you could make other things |
| 21:26.12 | nullpuppy | like wine, or cide |
| 21:26.13 | nullpuppy | r |
| 21:26.16 | ChipX86 | ooh wine |
| 21:26.21 | scanlime | nullpuppy: you need to make guinness :) |
| 21:26.26 | ChipX86 | I'd rather pay for decent wine though |
| 21:26.29 | nullpuppy | scanlime: hehe :) |
| 21:26.46 | scanlime | hm, looks like CIA's db finished rsyncing to yoshi |
| 21:26.55 | nullpuppy | scanlime: find me a recipe thats close to it and I'll give it a try :) |
| 21:27.02 | scanlime | I should leave relatively early tonight and see if I can't recover some data from it |
| 21:27.19 | scanlime | nullpuppy: :) |
| 21:28.55 | nullpuppy | hmm, the water is making noise.. its kinda neat |
| 21:29.13 | scanlime | doesn't water usually make noise when it's close to boiling? |
| 21:29.20 | nullpuppy | yeah |
| 21:29.26 | nullpuppy | but its 5gallons worth |
| 21:29.29 | nullpuppy | so its taking a while :) |
| 21:29.34 | scanlime | nice |
| 21:29.42 | scanlime | what are you boiling it in and with? |
| 21:30.00 | nullpuppy | 22qt pressure cooker |
| 21:30.05 | scanlime | wow |
| 21:30.33 | nullpuppy | need to sterilize it for use in brewing (need a few gallons of cold sterile water to mix with the wort after its brewed |
| 21:41.39 | *** join/#tacobeam orchid (n=bzgirl@unaffiliated/orchid) |
| 21:58.22 | kergoth | yay, home |
| 21:58.25 | nullpuppy | yay |
| 21:58.38 | kergoth | got all sorts of stuff done today :) |
| 21:58.53 | nullpuppy | :) |
| 21:59.05 | kergoth | now.. food.. music.. and perhaps some wow |
| 21:59.16 | nullpuppy | :) |
| 21:59.30 | nullpuppy | hmm, wonder how long it'll take to cool down that pot of water |
| 21:59.58 | kergoth | are you taking many pictures? :) |
| 22:00.16 | nullpuppy | of course :) |
| 22:00.34 | nullpuppy | at least.. i will when it gets to that point :) |
| 22:00.37 | kergoth | good |
| 22:00.47 | kergoth | i'd like to brew a cider, or perhaps something harder |
| 22:00.49 | nullpuppy | i was just boiling water to use later |
| 22:00.57 | nullpuppy | so i;m not using tap water :) |
| 22:01.02 | nullpuppy | yeah |
| 22:01.02 | kergoth | ah |
| 22:01.15 | nullpuppy | i want to do beer, wine, cider, etc :) |
| 22:01.22 | kergoth | i cant afford to buy cider or beer, but thankfully that wont last long. hehe. |
| 22:01.24 | kergoth | nice |
| 22:01.31 | nullpuppy | :) |
| 22:01.44 | nullpuppy | i can't either, I hope this will help with that :) |
| 22:01.48 | kergoth | hehe |
| 22:02.01 | kergoth | its like open source. if you dont like it, you can always fix it |
| 22:02.01 | nullpuppy | (lets just ignore the fact that I had to spend almost $150 to get started...) |
| 22:02.02 | nullpuppy | :) |
| 22:02.06 | nullpuppy | yeah |
| 22:02.42 | nullpuppy | oh.. i was looking at that 'our beer' recipe the other day.. it makes 85ltrs.. or about 20 gallons.... |
| 22:03.00 | nullpuppy | so.. i either need to make a much bigger brewery area.. or reduce the recipe :) |
| 22:03.18 | kergoth | wow |
| 22:03.18 | kergoth | hehe |
| 22:04.30 | kergoth | http://www.docum.org/docum.org/kptd/ |
| 22:04.31 | kergoth | http://open-source.arkoon.net/kernel/kernel_net.png |
| 22:04.35 | kergoth | those are great, i need to print em |
| 22:05.32 | scanlime | wow |
| 22:05.36 | scanlime | I should do more with linux networking.. |
| 22:05.41 | kergoth | :) |
| 22:05.47 | kergoth | its fun stuff |
| 22:05.50 | scanlime | the coolest thing I've done so far is the ham radio and associated kernel module |
| 22:05.59 | scanlime | USB interface, 9600 baud :) |
| 22:06.03 | kergoth | hehe |
| 22:06.06 | scanlime | TCP-IP over AX.25 |
| 22:06.28 | scanlime | I found a really serious bug in the ham radio code that was introduced in linux 2.6, but my patch got ignored |
| 22:06.32 | scanlime | nobody cares about ham radio any more |
| 22:06.56 | kergoth | heh, thats silly that they'd ignore the patch |
| 22:07.02 | kergoth | i have an idea, volunteer to maintain it! |
| 22:07.02 | scanlime | yea |
| 22:07.02 | kergoth | :P |
| 22:07.07 | scanlime | heh |
| 22:07.18 | scanlime | oneliner too.. some bozo was changing the CRC routines and broke them |
| 22:07.31 | kergoth | jeeze, something that basic, you'd think itd at least get tested |
| 22:07.41 | scanlime | puts the CRC at the beginning of the packet instead of at the end, overwriting the first 2 bytes of content |
| 22:07.46 | kergoth | haha |
| 22:07.47 | scanlime | yeah |
| 22:07.47 | kergoth | smooth |
| 22:08.32 | kergoth | 17:05 < mickeyl> CoreDump|home: was that your screeny from an Akita with E-Wm running firefox? |
| 22:08.36 | kergoth | 17:05 < CoreDump|home> yep |
| 22:08.37 | kergoth | twisted. |
| 22:08.54 | kergoth | the e17 wm on a damn pda |
| 22:09.09 | scanlime | ha |
| 22:09.26 | scanlime | is there a good searchable lkml archive? lkmk.org either isn't working or doesn't go back far enough |
| 22:09.37 | scanlime | er, lkml.org |
| 22:10.09 | kergoth | marc.theaimsgroup.com, iirc |
| 22:10.18 | kergoth | or you could try gmane, which i use for just about everything |
| 22:11.15 | scanlime | gmane did the trick |
| 22:11.28 | scanlime | http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.kernel/254091/match=hdlcdrv |
| 22:11.32 | scanlime | yep.. still being ignored |
| 22:11.35 | kergoth | hehe |
| 22:13.17 | scanlime | this one also never got looked at: |
| 22:13.19 | scanlime | http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.kernel/257338/match=hdlcdrv |
| 22:13.20 | scanlime | sigh |
| 22:13.23 | scanlime | no interest in ham radio... |
| 22:13.35 | scanlime | my wacky force feedback patch got in no problem |
| 22:15.42 | darth_mall | scanlime: what kind of cell phone do you have? |
| 22:15.50 | scanlime | motorola v188, IIRC |
| 22:15.51 | kergoth | nullpuppy: http://forums.worldofwar.net/showthread.php?t=349564 post #3 |
| 22:16.01 | nullpuppy | kergoth: did you see my pics so far of my brewing stuff? |
| 22:16.09 | scanlime | darth_mall: it has some nice points, but I really wouldn't recommend it |
| 22:16.10 | kergoth | nope, url? |
| 22:16.19 | scanlime | darth_mall: it's nice that it has a standard USB port, but the firmware is kinda buggy |
| 22:16.35 | darth_mall | scanlime: I just wanted to look it up, I'm not going to get one |
| 22:16.52 | nullpuppy | kergoth: http://gallery.nulldomain.com/v/Photography/Homebrew/Weissbier/ |
| 22:17.22 | kergoth | nullpuppy: nifty. where'd ya get the kit? |
| 22:17.30 | darth_mall | scanlime: it can use mp3's for ringtones, right? |
| 22:17.38 | nullpuppy | local homebrew shop |
| 22:17.43 | nullpuppy | celler-homebrew.com iirc |
| 22:17.59 | darth_mall | ah, there it is in the sheet |
| 22:19.33 | nullpuppy | wooo, over 2500mb in gmail mail storage |
| 22:20.00 | scanlime | darth_mall: yes, but most newish phones can do that |
| 22:20.17 | nullpuppy | kergoth: ROFL! |
| 22:20.21 | nullpuppy | thats awesome |
| 22:20.32 | kergoth | :) |
| 23:16.33 | scanlime | bah |
| 23:16.57 | scanlime | I guess spending most of the afternoon waiting on compiles hasn't helped |
| 23:19.45 | scanlime | thanks |
| 23:20.33 | numist | :) |
| 23:25.13 | KeyserSoze | scanlime, ChipX86: you guys hear about this at work? http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS2778922637.html |
| 23:25.25 | ChipX86 | yep |
| 23:25.37 | KeyserSoze | it's freaky. |
| 23:26.03 | ChipX86 | it's the same type of thing we've been talking about for ages |
| 23:30.07 | ChipX86 | so my manager is apparently still fighting HR and such on the company taking money out of my paycheck for negative time off rather than just not giving me additional time off (which was the old policy, and they didn't tell anyone about new policy) |
| 23:30.14 | ChipX86 | she said frmo now on, she'll just give me under-the-table comp time |
| 23:35.13 | gonkulator | and yay for tracking numbers |
| 23:35.13 | gonkulator | 702651689033 |
| 23:36.02 | purple_cow | hmm! |
| 23:36.03 | purple_cow | http://www.cs.colorado.edu/~sanders/cs4308/selection/preview.html#p11 |
| 23:39.04 | hardwire | why is one of my friends handing me a vmware copy of Tiger x86? |
| 23:39.10 | ChipX86 | it's a trap! |
| 23:39.28 | hardwire | ? |
| 23:39.46 | ChipX86 | we don't support MacOS X on VMware. At all. I must tell everybody this. |
| 23:40.23 | file | ChipX86: that made me smile |
| 23:41.18 | purple_cow | well, i'm a little soggy, but.... |
| 23:41.20 | purple_cow | MORE MOOSES! |
| 23:41.24 | purple_cow | http://zero.navi.cx/gallery/tetons-2005/IMG_0725 |
| 23:41.48 | hardwire | ChipX86: then what exactly is he handing me |
| 23:41.58 | hardwire | something that will just explode? |
| 23:42.51 | hardwire | purple_cow: I get chased by mosses avery week unfortunatly |
| 23:43.31 | ChipX86 | hardwire: I can say nothing officially at all |
| 23:43.40 | ChipX86 | and we don't support it. |
| 23:43.45 | ChipX86 | and Apple is unhappy about it. |
| 23:43.49 | hardwire | I really don't expect you would |
| 23:43.55 | hardwire | so somebody leaked the devkit? |
| 23:44.01 | ChipX86 | that being said, make sure you disable the serial port and floppy controller in the bios in the VM |
| 23:44.04 | hardwire | thats just stupid |
| 23:44.26 | darth_mall | oof |
| 23:44.32 | darth_mall | I have so many pics to upload |
| 23:44.54 | hardwire | ChipX86: well.. that was unexectedly helpfull .. I appreciate it |
| 23:44.59 | hardwire | have a pop on me |
| 23:45.03 | hardwire | I will pay you back |
| 23:45.16 | ChipX86 | but I know nothing of which I speak and I don't condone this whole OS X in VMware thing |
| 23:45.35 | ChipX86 | a pop on you? You want me to hit you? |
| 23:45.40 | file | LOL |
| 23:45.40 | hardwire | I am wondering why its not OSX on my HDD |
| 23:45.41 | hardwire | vs vmware |
| 23:45.42 | hardwire | but oh well |
| 23:45.56 | hardwire | I suppose I could copy the FS to a USB drive and try it out |
| 23:45.58 | ChipX86 | it runs surprisingly well in vmware.. so I hear.. yes.. |
| 23:45.59 | hardwire | or rather firewire |
| 23:46.56 | hardwire | ChipX86: why oh why do they care? |
| 23:47.03 | hardwire | now they have to have driver contracts with thousands of companies |
| 23:47.06 | ChipX86 | do who care? |
| 23:47.06 | ChipX86 | apple? |
| 23:47.08 | hardwire | yeh |
| 23:47.16 | hardwire | why not release x86 osx for their own damn hardware |
| 23:47.17 | ChipX86 | because they're sad and upset and lost control already |
| 23:47.22 | ChipX86 | they are |
| 23:47.38 | ChipX86 | they're moving all macs to x86 |
| 23:47.43 | hardwire | so why vmware.. or any standard vesa compat machine |
| 23:47.52 | ChipX86 | and they don't want it on non-apple computers |
| 23:47.55 | ChipX86 | and DRM'd it |
| 23:47.58 | ChipX86 | but someone broke it and got it working in vmware |
| 23:47.59 | hardwire | aren't people going to expect all their x86 crap to work in osx now? |
| 23:48.09 | ChipX86 | wow you are just so behind the news, by like a month :P |
| 23:48.17 | ChipX86 | if they do, they're idiots |
| 23:48.18 | hardwire | I am not on top of this subject |
| 23:48.31 | ChipX86 | apple's just moving to the x86 processor |
| 23:48.36 | hardwire | I know that much |
| 23:48.40 | ChipX86 | people will still buy macs |
| 23:48.43 | hardwire | good |
| 23:48.46 | ChipX86 | they're trying to lock everyone into their hardware |
| 23:48.52 | ChipX86 | just that the DRM was too easy to crack |
| 23:48.53 | hardwire | good |
| 23:48.57 | ChipX86 | and so now it runs in vmware |
| 23:48.59 | hardwire | thats the mac I know and sometimes love |
| 23:49.04 | hardwire | ChipX86: for dev purposes |
| 23:49.10 | ChipX86 | not officially |
| 23:49.13 | hardwire | of course |
| 23:49.18 | ChipX86 | and not by us! |
| 23:49.21 | hardwire | indeed |
| 23:49.27 | hardwire | well |
| 23:49.28 | hardwire | good for them |
| 23:49.31 | hardwire | and bad for them |
| 23:49.33 | hardwire | all at the same time |
| 23:49.47 | hardwire | it would be nice to have HT+SMP osx machines I guess |
| 23:50.13 | hardwire | but they certainly just up and fucked the PPC g5 lovers out there |
| 23:50.13 | hardwire | haha |
| 23:50.28 | hardwire | I hope they hire a new department with management from the PPC side as well |
| 23:50.39 | hardwire | instead of splitting or migrating the dev department |
| 23:50.44 | ChipX86 | they're scrapping PPC support |
| 23:50.48 | ChipX86 | and everything else |
| 23:50.53 | hardwire | holy cow |
| 23:50.58 | hardwire | thats quite a statement |
| 23:51.00 | ChipX86 | this was announceed like over a month ago |
| 23:51.01 | hardwire | I am taken a back. |
| 23:51.11 | ChipX86 | a lot of apple fanboys were sad. |
| 23:51.11 | hardwire | ChipX86: have I ever sounded on top of anything? |
| 23:51.17 | ChipX86 | it made me feel like eating an apple |
| 23:51.29 | hardwire | I am always confused little hardwire |
| 23:52.10 | file | yay interview |
| 23:53.06 | ChipX86 | o/~ Honest I do, I can't see you and me and her without each other, and I hope you feel the same way too. I think I'm in love with you, and your friend. o/~ |
| 23:57.01 | nullpuppy | ooh, hardwire |
| 23:57.32 | nullpuppy | check this out: http://gallery.nulldomain.com/v/Photography/Homebrew/Weissbier/ |
| 23:58.27 | kergoth | ChipX86: yay, src |
