| 00:02.16 | numist | s/, is/, and is/ |
| 00:03.57 | ChipX86 | I'd love to know why osiris has gone from having 400K I/O tokens down to 20 |
| 00:04.16 | scanlime | 'cuz the linode admins do that |
| 00:04.20 | purple_cow | what's io_status look like? |
| 00:04.42 | ChipX86 | http://osiris.chipx86.com/monitor/diskio/io_status.html |
| 00:05.40 | numist | thats funny, mysql_pconnect(connect to/create a persistant connection) has no working mysql_close() function... |
| 00:05.53 | numist | mysql_close even states that it doesnt work on persistant connections.. |
| 00:07.46 | ChipX86 | huh, inkscape is doing bizarre things |
| 00:10.54 | scanlime | ChipX86: they're good at forgetting to put your io limits back to normal after the problem's gone |
| 00:11.07 | ChipX86 | yeah.. |
| 00:11.16 | ChipX86 | heh, so I think I know why gnomecanvas is being such a problem |
| 00:11.23 | scanlime | they do seem to respond to support tickets pretty quick though |
| 00:11.38 | ChipX86 | if you call move() and then try to get the x1 and y1 properties, they don't seem to necessarily reflect the location you moved it to yet |
| 00:12.55 | scanlime | wanna go home and play with this USB board... |
| 00:18.24 | scanlime | ooh |
| 00:18.26 | scanlime | I like this chip already |
| 00:18.46 | scanlime | normally an 8051 has silly open-collector I/O pins |
| 00:19.06 | scanlime | the EZUSB has much more featureful I/Os, with an output latch and tristate register.. much like a PIC |
| 00:21.43 | scanlime | mmm |
| 00:21.45 | scanlime | and 5V tolerant I/Os |
| 00:21.53 | scanlime | I could just plug this straight into the C64 |
| 00:38.10 | scanlime | blah |
| 00:38.22 | scanlime | nothing left to do today really, and my stomach and back are both bothering me |
| 00:38.26 | scanlime | sounds like it's time to go home |
| 00:38.37 | ChipX86 | want to drop me off? |
| 00:38.40 | ChipX86 | :) |
| 00:42.58 | ChipX86 | I give up. gnome-canvas is worthless |
| 00:43.44 | purple_cow | blah |
| 00:43.58 | purple_cow | i just noticed they never changed their mind on the paint on my new building |
| 00:44.08 | purple_cow | "it's the yellow and puke green building with white trim. you can't miss it" |
| 00:44.16 | ChipX86 | :/ |
| 00:58.30 | KeyserSoze | isn't there a command that gives you the just the filename part of a full-path-and-filename filename? |
| 00:58.51 | numist | KeyserSoze: language? |
| 00:58.56 | KeyserSoze | bash |
| 00:59.03 | numist | dunno :/ |
| 00:59.30 | KeyserSoze | or a common unix command-line command.... |
| 00:59.46 | KeyserSoze | crap, i'm probably thinking of an API call in some library |
| 01:00.14 | purple_cow | KeyserSoze: basename |
| 01:00.44 | KeyserSoze | thank you! |
| 01:01.02 | file | argh I got a friend on my phone system and he's in love with music on hold |
| 01:02.17 | numist | lol |
| 01:02.24 | numist | so leave him on hold |
| 01:02.34 | nullpuppy | blah |
| 01:02.36 | nullpuppy | bored |
| 01:02.45 | nullpuppy | 2 more hours and very little to do |
| 01:02.51 | file | he's got me on hold |
| 01:03.00 | file | he went to feed a rabbit, I wonder how long that takes |
| 01:05.38 | ChipX86 | home. |
| 01:06.08 | nullpuppy | yay |
| 01:06.14 | nullpuppy | i want to go home :( |
| 01:14.11 | kergoth | bleh |
| 01:16.39 | pfault | woah crap |
| 01:16.48 | pfault | I come back and there is smoke coming out of my laptop |
| 01:16.52 | pfault | and it was on fire :/ |
| 01:17.03 | purple_cow | yow |
| 01:17.05 | nullpuppy | eek! :( |
| 01:17.10 | nullpuppy | wtf happened |
| 01:17.13 | pfault | no idea |
| 01:17.20 | pfault | I took the battery out and it's all melted underneatyh |
| 01:17.22 | pfault | I dare not turn it on |
| 01:17.25 | nullpuppy | :( |
| 01:17.40 | pfault | I didn't even have this a week |
| 01:18.00 | pfault | stranger thing is it wasn't even plugged into AC |
| 01:18.09 | nullpuppy | dman |
| 01:18.11 | nullpuppy | *damn |
| 01:18.18 | file | pfault: use it to your advantage and get a better one |
| 01:18.19 | nullpuppy | that your 600m? |
| 01:18.28 | nullpuppy | or an ibook? or what? |
| 01:18.33 | pfault | 600m |
| 01:18.38 | purple_cow | hehe |
| 01:18.40 | pfault | which I got exchanged from the other one that got fried |
| 01:18.49 | purple_cow | i've never seen an ibook spontaneously combust, but i wouldn't put it past them |
| 01:18.50 | nullpuppy | haha |
| 01:18.50 | pfault | but this one literally went up in flames |
| 01:18.52 | file | pfault: you should route your call through my system so I can record it |
| 01:18.53 | nullpuppy | damn |
| 01:18.55 | file | I'd LOVE to hear it |
| 01:19.03 | nullpuppy | hehehe |
| 01:19.12 | pfault | well I am calling tomorrow |
| 01:19.19 | pfault | I am pretty depressed and stressed out because of it |
| 01:19.27 | pfault | I just want a working notebook |
| 01:19.27 | pfault | :/ |
| 01:19.28 | file | you, depressed and stressed? |
| 01:19.28 | nullpuppy | "Dell Tech support, how can I help you?" "My laptop caught on fire" " ..." |
| 01:19.53 | pfault | I think fire is covered under warranty |
| 01:19.54 | pfault | I hope so anyway |
| 01:20.01 | nullpuppy | yeah |
| 01:20.15 | file | "Dude, you're getting a firebomb!" |
| 01:20.21 | nullpuppy | haha |
| 01:20.29 | pfault | this thing ran too hot from when I got it |
| 01:20.51 | numist | yeah, my dell lappy runs pretty hot |
| 01:21.29 | purple_cow | pfault: seeing as you didn't douse it in kerosene and throw matches at it, i think they'll probably replace it ;) |
| 01:22.14 | pfault | yeah |
| 01:23.04 | pfault | oh nice |
| 01:23.07 | pfault | the memory is charred |
| 01:23.46 | pfault | hehe |
| 01:23.49 | pfault | well brb |
| 01:28.54 | numist | pfault: nice |
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| 01:34.17 | Veight | rawr |
| 01:47.05 | pfault | haha |
| 01:47.09 | pfault | "My laptop caught on fire" |
| 01:47.11 | pfault | "Oh" |
| 01:47.17 | pfault | "Can I put you on hold?" |
| 01:47.22 | nullpuppy | lol |
| 01:48.03 | pfault | haha |
| 01:48.07 | pfault | ok well the system has to be taken in |
| 01:48.09 | pfault | obviously |
| 01:48.18 | nullpuppy | hehe |
| 01:48.59 | scanlime | ChipX86: oop, sorry I missed your request for a ride |
| 01:50.11 | pfault | they will get back to me in 2 to 3 business days |
| 01:50.21 | pfault | so I need to send 2 laptops back |
| 01:50.23 | pfault | hehe |
| 01:52.13 | pfault | you guys having problems connecting to WoW |
| 01:52.54 | scanlime | oh my god |
| 01:53.00 | scanlime | an email from Andrew with more than one paragraph |
| 01:55.23 | pfault | I think my tv remote is fried too |
| 01:55.24 | pfault | sigh |
| 01:55.28 | pfault | it's just one of those days |
| 01:55.52 | pfault | but I got a DSL speed boost! |
| 01:55.54 | nullpuppy | dell ruined your remote! sue em! :) |
| 01:56.17 | nullpuppy | how did you put out the fire btw? |
| 01:57.30 | pfault | just blew on it |
| 01:58.58 | nullpuppy | ah |
| 01:59.17 | file[laptop] | I was wondering why I got Fedex tracking info... some client shipped us his server, haha |
| 01:59.21 | file[laptop] | almost freaked out there |
| 01:59.38 | pfault | i'll ship you my celeron 500, just put it in a nice rack for me |
| 01:59.51 | file[laptop] | I'll get right on that! |
| 02:00.14 | ChipX86 | scanlime: no prob |
| 02:00.17 | ChipX86 | back home now |
| 02:02.47 | Veight | kergoth: starts tomarrow so he can pay for our dam wow accounts so we can play again! yay! |
| 02:02.58 | Veight | r, Kergoth starts tommarrow :) |
| 02:03.05 | Veight | er, er |
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| 02:06.49 | scanlime | ah.. stomach finally starting to settle |
| 02:07.02 | scanlime | that baklava was tasty, but really did something bad to my digestion |
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| 02:09.56 | purple_cow | rofl |
| 02:09.57 | purple_cow | http://www.defamer.com/hollywood/tom-cruise/index.php#defamer-legal-dept-team-cruise-denies-humanizing-crisis-of-faith-116750 |
| 02:12.56 | CIA-11 | numi-misc: 03numist * r109 10phpcount/lib/ (featurestrict.php phpCount.class.php): counter class is done, should work, and the config check file is much improved to check type as well as presence of vars. |
| 02:13.43 | numist | whats really weird is that Im in #rm-r, and so is CIA-##, and my commit doesnt show up there |
| 02:13.49 | numist | but it does here, and I never added this channel |
| 02:14.35 | nullpuppy | i think scanlime added you to this channel :) |
| 02:15.07 | numist | now Im going to have you guys watching over my shoulder :P |
| 02:15.28 | scanlime | I never added you |
| 02:15.31 | scanlime | it was probably purple_cow |
| 02:15.59 | nullpuppy | could be, i don't remember :) |
| 02:16.13 | scanlime | CIA doesn't look at user lists and automatically try to match commits |
| 02:16.16 | scanlime | as much fun as it is to tell people that |
| 02:18.06 | numist | ah, is that what he said last night about me not being on some sort of list |
| 02:18.13 | numist | that would be really cool if it did |
| 02:18.20 | numist | snowed me there |
| 02:18.50 | scanlime | http://cia.navi.cx/rulesets/irc/freenode/tacobeam |
| 02:19.20 | numist | that is some excellent xml |
| 02:19.26 | scanlime | heh |
| 02:19.45 | scanlime | XML programming languages are trendy, right? |
| 02:19.59 | numist | although, it would be entirely cool to have an xml option to either show all from matching authors |
| 02:20.01 | scanlime | well, this is just a boolean logic thing with XPath |
| 02:20.16 | numist | I think getting nicklists and tracking them is a bit of work thats not really worth it though |
| 02:20.46 | scanlime | CIA already tracks nicks, it just doesn't really do anything with that info yet |
| 02:20.56 | scanlime | I think currently it just uses that to come up with a total number of users |
| 02:21.38 | scanlime | CIA's bot server is disgustingly complicated for what it does... I blame IRC sucking. |
| 02:21.52 | numist | nice blocking active projects for this channel.. good idea |
| 02:21.56 | numist | lol |
| 02:22.05 | purple_cow | numist: it was me |
| 02:22.13 | purple_cow | i noticed you committing but you weren't in our ruleset |
| 02:23.12 | numist | yay powerman 5000 |
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| 02:26.58 | scanlime | how sick would it be to do usb-storage on a Commodore 1541 disk drive? |
| 02:27.16 | scanlime | these things are like 1200 baud |
| 02:38.10 | purple_cow | scanlime: very sick |
| 02:38.42 | ChipX86 | but very cool |
| 02:39.05 | ChipX86 | I want to plug my NES into my computer and feed roms into it over usb |
| 02:39.44 | Veight | no wow = bad! |
| 02:40.05 | purple_cow | hmm |
| 02:40.10 | purple_cow | scanlime left all his atari stuff here |
| 02:42.39 | ChipX86 | hmm, a new battleground is coming |
| 02:45.54 | purple_cow | blah |
| 02:46.02 | purple_cow | ``By a 6-4 vote, the Kansas Board of Education has approved a draft of science standards which cements a victory for Flying Spaghetti Monsterists everywhere'' |
| 02:53.44 | scanlime | purple_cow: yeah. considering I don't have a working atari system, figured you could use it more than I |
| 02:56.20 | scanlime | I hope this hard disk isn't dead... |
| 02:56.48 | purple_cow | scanlime: prolly |
| 02:56.49 | purple_cow | hmm |
| 02:56.58 | purple_cow | you also left us "butterfinger hot cocoa" |
| 02:57.07 | scanlime | hah |
| 02:57.13 | purple_cow | who the hell invented that? |
| 02:57.18 | purple_cow | it sounds like the worst thing ever |
| 02:57.48 | scanlime | that probably came in the big box of randomized foodstuffs that was sent with me from home when I first moved in |
| 03:03.01 | purple_cow | but it's in the trash now, so i don't have to worry anymore |
| 03:03.11 | scanlime | it's not that bad... but also not really worth drinking |
| 03:11.26 | scanlime | um |
| 03:11.28 | scanlime | this hard disk is beeping |
| 03:11.39 | scanlime | I can honestly say I've never heard a disk make this noise |
| 03:11.46 | file[laptop] | does it have a self destruct device? |
| 03:12.08 | scanlime | it's a really soft beep, like the kind a flashing cursor makes in MovieOS |
| 03:14.04 | purple_cow | scanlime: are you missing a water bottle? |
| 03:14.10 | scanlime | yes |
| 03:14.16 | scanlime | grey one? |
| 03:14.19 | purple_cow | yep |
| 03:14.22 | scanlime | yep |
| 03:14.27 | scanlime | where? |
| 03:15.16 | purple_cow | it's on the rack by the bicycles |
| 03:15.34 | scanlime | in plain sight? |
| 03:15.40 | purple_cow | well, now it is |
| 03:15.44 | purple_cow | it was hidden under some chips |
| 03:15.47 | scanlime | ha |
| 03:16.38 | scanlime | well.. I think that it's safe to say this 80GB drive is more dead than I remembered |
| 03:17.15 | purple_cow | ooh, lovely |
| 03:17.23 | purple_cow | someone's stealing expensive bicycles from the engineering center :P |
| 03:19.23 | scanlime | wasabi's CD-ROM drive doesn't sound good |
| 03:21.38 | scanlime | well, I guess this is yoshi now |
| 03:23.44 | scanlime | purple_cow: did you take the sb live out of wasabi before I packed it, or has it been without sound card for longer than that? |
| 03:24.34 | scanlime | yoshi now has wasabi's case, motherboard, RAM, cd-rom drive, and power supply.. and old-yoshi's video card, ram, hard disk, usb2, and network cards |
| 03:24.40 | scanlime | oh, and I guess I still have the TV tuner in there |
| 03:24.44 | scanlime | and yoshi's SB live |
| 03:24.52 | nullpuppy | yay home |
| 03:25.18 | scanlime | grrf. that's right.. this disk has the bad spot that locks up the machine |
| 03:25.19 | purple_cow | scanlime: i moved that to fembot when i switched them over |
| 03:25.34 | scanlime | or something |
| 03:25.37 | scanlime | purple_cow: k |
| 03:25.42 | scanlime | maybe this is just taking a while to format the disk |
| 03:25.52 | scanlime | yay |
| 03:27.09 | nullpuppy | w00t! |
| 03:27.17 | nullpuppy | mac os x in vmware |
| 03:28.14 | file[laptop] | nullpuppy: eh? EH? |
| 03:28.30 | numist | nullpuppy: ?? |
| 03:28.37 | numist | no way |
| 03:28.45 | file[laptop] | hand it over boy |
| 03:28.56 | numist | yeah, no kidding |
| 03:29.54 | nullpuppy | go search thepiratebay :) |
| 03:29.58 | nullpuppy | i think thats where i found it.. |
| 03:30.16 | nullpuppy | still unpacking.. |
| 03:30.30 | scanlime | is it just a full VM? |
| 03:30.38 | scanlime | or the install cd? |
| 03:30.41 | nullpuppy | yup, vm |
| 03:30.46 | nullpuppy | supposedly a workign install |
| 03:32.18 | nullpuppy | http://www.concretesurf.co.nz/osx86/viewtopic.php?t=84&lighter= |
| 03:32.26 | nullpuppy | theres that too... |
| 03:32.49 | nullpuppy | steps to do it yourself, and links to the torrent :) |
| 03:33.58 | nullpuppy | damn. how fscking big is it.. its only 1.3gb bzip2ed |
| 03:35.41 | scanlime | looks like 12GB |
| 03:35.53 | scanlime | they should have made the disk image a sparse file |
| 03:36.26 | nullpuppy | ah, only 6gb |
| 03:36.29 | nullpuppy | might be a 12gb drive |
| 03:37.34 | nullpuppy | attempting to boot |
| 03:37.39 | nullpuppy | its booting! w00t! |
| 03:38.02 | nullpuppy | i wonder if the freebsd vmware-tools would install in it :) |
| 03:38.17 | scanlime | *cough* |
| 03:38.28 | nullpuppy | hehe |
| 03:38.40 | nullpuppy | do you know something you can't say anything about? :) |
| 03:38.48 | scanlime | no, that's just a really stupid idea ;) |
| 03:38.58 | nullpuppy | hehe, fair enough ;) |
| 03:39.03 | purple_cow | osx is NOT FREEBSD DAMNIT |
| 03:39.12 | scanlime | yes, what he said |
| 03:39.15 | nullpuppy | i know it isn't |
| 03:39.43 | purple_cow | the core utilities share a little code |
| 03:39.48 | purple_cow | that's about the extent of the similarity |
| 03:40.01 | scanlime | the kernel and video drivers, where vmware tools lives, are completely different |
| 03:40.01 | nullpuppy | but darwin is based off of freebsd iirc, so.. theres a tiny chance that something might work |
| 03:40.08 | nullpuppy | yeah, probably |
| 03:40.10 | scanlime | no |
| 03:40.13 | scanlime | there isn't |
| 03:40.19 | nullpuppy | ok then :) |
| 03:40.25 | scanlime | you'd get partway into the installer, but only because it's written in perl |
| 03:40.39 | purple_cow | nullpuppy: the osx 'cat' being based off of freebsd 'cat' means absolutely nothing :P |
| 03:40.57 | nullpuppy | hehe |
| 03:41.08 | scanlime | the video driver in vmware-tools is an X server, which does you no good. The filesystem stuff is all kernel code. |
| 03:41.15 | scanlime | freebsd's kernel is not mach |
| 03:41.23 | nullpuppy | yeah, true |
| 03:41.47 | purple_cow | osx's kernel isn't really mach anymore either ;-) |
| 03:42.01 | scanlime | I've got no idea if vmware has plans to do a video driver for quartz.. I doubt they could |
| 03:42.11 | scanlime | anyone that wants to though could do it without our help |
| 03:42.23 | scanlime | the X11 driver for vmware is open source, it's even documented IIRC |
| 03:42.44 | nullpuppy | *nods* |
| 03:43.25 | scanlime | bah. wonder if I can install ubuntu off a USB drive |
| 03:48.42 | nullpuppy | ok.. up temporarily... :) http://gremlin.nulldomain.com/~dustin/vmware-osx.png :) |
| 03:49.01 | scanlime | 403 |
| 03:49.36 | nullpuppy | doh, sec :) |
| 03:50.00 | nullpuppy | k, fixed ;) |
| 03:50.32 | purple_cow | crazy |
| 03:50.43 | nullpuppy | yup, very |
| 03:51.00 | nullpuppy | lots of people have been trying to get it running in vmware |
| 03:51.22 | scanlime | anyone got it running in Xen? :) |
| 03:51.30 | nullpuppy | hehe, not sure |
| 03:51.40 | scanlime | jk |
| 03:51.45 | nullpuppy | everyone i see talking about it is either vmware or native |
| 03:52.08 | ChipX86 | yeah like xen could run it |
| 03:52.14 | scanlime | nod |
| 03:52.23 | scanlime | might work in virtualpc.. but their support for not-windows is kinda flaky |
| 03:52.45 | nullpuppy | yeah |
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| 03:53.51 | scanlime | hrmph. bad ubuntu CD I guess... |
| 04:03.40 | Veight | pfault, buddy ol pal what are the instances after Uldaman in order of difficulty? :) |
| 04:07.12 | scanlime | as long as the bad spots on these two ubuntu CDs are in different places, I can keep swapping until the install succeeds |
| 04:08.42 | CIA-11 | numi-misc: 03numist * r110 10phpcount/ (19 files in 5 dirs): |
| 04:08.42 | CIA-11 | numi-misc: reorganization, builds and runs correctly for this state, added multibase support. |
| 04:08.42 | CIA-11 | numi-misc: Left multibase in the TODO for scanlime |
| 04:08.52 | numist | :) |
| 04:10.18 | file[laptop] | scanlime: ambitious |
| 04:10.30 | file[laptop] | pfault: I might be in Toronto again in a few months |
| 04:10.43 | nullpuppy | does osx have something similar to lscpi? |
| 04:11.06 | file[laptop] | nullpuppy: System Profiler is good, it'll tell you all sorts of stuff |
| 04:11.16 | numist | nullpuppy: nothing from the cmdline that I can think of |
| 04:11.40 | nullpuppy | k |
| 04:11.43 | nullpuppy | file[laptop]: k, thanks |
| 04:11.55 | scanlime | numist: :) |
| 04:11.56 | file[laptop] | it's in Applications -> Utilities |
| 04:12.07 | nullpuppy | k |
| 04:15.21 | scanlime | huh |
| 04:15.29 | scanlime | "MS-DOS Version 2 Reference Guide" |
| 04:15.32 | scanlime | hardbound. |
| 04:28.21 | scanlime | why won't nero let me burn slower than 8x? |
| 04:29.08 | file[laptop] | scanlime: it won't let me either on one of my CD burners, the other it will |
| 04:29.45 | purple_cow | hmm, scanlime left us his mouthwash too |
| 04:30.14 | scanlime | doh |
| 04:30.21 | scanlime | I don't think there was much left though |
| 04:30.23 | numist | hehe |
| 04:32.15 | kergoth | jesus |
| 04:32.16 | kergoth | "A news story on the Interfax site reveals that the Chinese authorities have unveiled new regulations that will prohibit minors under the age of 18 from playing violent online games which include Player Kills. The Chinese Ministry of Culture and Ministry of Information Industry have also ordered the country's online game operators, The9 in WoW's case, to develop identity authentication systems that will prevent minors from playing g |
| 04:34.22 | kergoth | nullpuppy: http://www.gucomics.com/archives/view.php?cdate=20050801 |
| 04:35.41 | nullpuppy | hehe |
| 04:36.04 | nullpuppy | kergoth: http://www.ctrlaltdel-online.com/index.php?t=archives&date=last |
| 04:37.46 | nullpuppy | hmm, intesting... http://chitchat.at.infoseek.co.jp/vmware/vdk.htm |
| 04:38.01 | kergoth | hehe |
| 04:39.08 | scanlime | huh |
| 04:39.14 | scanlime | cygwin cdrecord won't go any slower than 8x either |
| 04:39.18 | scanlime | looks like the driver is locking the speed |
| 04:39.28 | purple_cow | hmm |
| 04:39.38 | purple_cow | and scanlime's answering machine is here too! |
| 04:39.48 | scanlime | hmm |
| 04:40.05 | scanlime | if you need an answering machine you can have it- otherwise hold on to it and I'll take it whenever convenient |
| 04:40.12 | scanlime | I don't really have a use for it without a landline |
| 04:40.23 | scanlime | ah |
| 04:42.03 | kergoth | http://www.gucomics.com/archives/view.php?cdate=20050502 |
| 04:42.06 | scanlime | I love how this is scsi-over-usb being converted to scsi-over-ide |
| 04:42.56 | scanlime | now I just need iScsi |
| 04:51.44 | CIA-11 | numi-misc: 03numist * r111 10phpcount/ (TODO.txt img.php lib/phpCount.class.php): bugfix, ready to start mass collecting results for use on the site side |
| 04:53.05 | kergoth | what the.. |
| 04:53.13 | kergoth | the latest qc.. they're outdoors! |
| 04:53.14 | kergoth | weird |
| 04:54.13 | purple_cow | heh |
| 04:54.19 | numist | hey micah, if I added more interactions to CIA, would you put them in with the running cia? |
| 04:55.02 | purple_cow | :P |
| 04:57.01 | kergoth | haha, http://www.gucomics.com/archives/view.php?cdate=20041223 |
| 04:59.04 | purple_cow | huh. notzed can be so opaquely blunt sometimes |
| 04:59.11 | purple_cow | ``I would sure hope that evolution *continues* to use corba & bonobo for it's ipc.'' |
| 05:05.34 | scanlime | nullpuppy: like...? |
| 05:05.36 | scanlime | er |
| 05:05.42 | scanlime | s/nullpuppy/numist/ |
| 05:05.59 | nullpuppy | hehe |
| 05:06.08 | numist | scanlime: one person killed it and another person tried to resurrect it, but obviously that didnt work... |
| 05:06.25 | scanlime | so.. yeah... |
| 05:06.52 | purple_cow | HostingGeek knows about them :( |
| 05:06.57 | numist | Ill just send you a patchfile if I ever get to it, if you'll commit it in |
| 05:06.58 | scanlime | originally they were just kind of an easter egg I patched into CIA while it was live |
| 05:07.05 | numist | theyre funny |
| 05:07.08 | scanlime | maybe |
| 05:07.17 | numist | fair enough.. definitely not happening tonight |
| 05:07.19 | numist | at any rate |
| 05:07.25 | scanlime | it requires modifying the bot server, which is a relatively stable portion of CIA |
| 05:07.30 | scanlime | but it can be done without restarting usually |
| 05:07.35 | scanlime | purple_cow: yeah |
| 05:07.52 | scanlime | it's already kind of overkill |
| 05:07.56 | scanlime | ;) |
| 05:08.05 | numist | fair enough |
| 05:08.17 | gonkulator | file[laptop]: yes? |
| 05:08.37 | file[laptop] | gonkulator: the magic gnome told me to tell you, "woof" |
| 05:10.05 | purple_cow | hmm |
| 05:13.55 | gonkulator | file[laptop]: ok |
| 05:17.58 | purple_cow | huh, there's a CIA response I didn't know about |
| 05:18.23 | *** join/#tacobeam file[laptop] (n=jcolp@mctn1-2511.nb.aliant.net) |
| 05:18.27 | purple_cow | ok, time to go buy bagels |
| 05:41.55 | darth_mall | ooh look! |
| 05:41.57 | darth_mall | internet |
| 05:42.08 | darth_mall | and musics |
| 05:42.39 | scanlime | 10% done on that osx vm :P |
| 05:46.41 | darth_mall | starting to get room to move in my new room |
| 05:48.15 | ChipX86 | ooh need os x vm |
| 05:48.24 | ChipX86 | my keyboard is feelin gmore sticky now |
| 05:48.34 | gonkulator | boo gmore sticky |
| 05:51.15 | kergoth | ChipX86: http://www.gucomics.com/archives/view.php?cdate=20040716 hehe |
| 05:52.38 | ChipX86 | kergoth: that's lame :) |
| 05:53.15 | kergoth | yep |
| 05:53.34 | kergoth | hmm, i should sleep soon |
| 05:56.25 | purple_cow | ChipX86: if you're under warranty, they'll ship you a new keyboard pronto :) |
| 05:56.35 | purple_cow | assuming that the keyboard is a CRU on your model |
| 05:56.38 | ChipX86 | going to do that I think |
| 06:03.00 | numist | so, I decided to test this silly little script Im working on by attaching it to another silly project of mine that happens to get a lot of traffic... |
| 06:03.14 | numist | and damn its really goin to town |
| 06:06.02 | darth_mall | sweet |
| 06:06.12 | darth_mall | my computer is set up and I have a desk chair |
| 06:06.16 | darth_mall | therefore, I am moved in |
| 06:06.46 | nullpuppy | haha |
| 06:07.00 | darth_mall | oh, and I have an internet connection |
| 06:07.03 | darth_mall | that must mean I'm moved in |
| 06:11.53 | purple_cow | that's really all you need |
| 06:14.26 | *** join/#tacobeam rioter (n=rar@dsl-203-33-166-300.NSW.netspace.net.au) |
| 06:14.45 | nullpuppy | hmm |
| 06:15.46 | *** part/#tacobeam JeffM2501 (n=jeffm@pdpc/supporter/sustaining/JeffM2501) |
| 06:22.05 | purple_cow | hmm |
| 06:22.50 | Veight | Good night all |
| 06:23.43 | darth_mall | yay bookshelves |
| 06:25.01 | purple_cow | hmm, cool |
| 06:25.03 | purple_cow | http://colorado.metrofreefi.com/city/Boulder.htm |
| 06:26.37 | purple_cow | darth_mall: hang on little tomato |
| 06:30.52 | purple_cow | life without a microwave is sad, and the food is cold |
| 06:33.22 | rioter | haha, we have no microwave atm either |
| 06:33.22 | rioter | it sucks |
| 06:33.28 | rioter | it throws the rcd every time we turn it on |
| 06:38.44 | ChipX86 | ah, yep, they did replace Six's voice.. with Carmen Electra |
| 06:38.50 | nullpuppy | ... |
| 06:38.52 | nullpuppy | ewww :( |
| 06:38.55 | ChipX86 | it sucks |
| 06:39.11 | ChipX86 | she also seems so anti-sex now |
| 06:39.31 | ChipX86 | which makes no sense considering she's a sex cyborg |
| 06:40.48 | nullpuppy | haha |
| 06:41.02 | nullpuppy | way to go sci-fi :( |
| 06:41.19 | ChipX86 | yeah... |
| 06:43.13 | ChipX86 | they're so good at making movies |
| 06:43.26 | ChipX86 | they had that movie where a mosquito and a human combined to mak ea mutant that ate everybody |
| 06:43.36 | ChipX86 | then they had the movie where a shark and a human combined to make a mutant that ate everybody |
| 06:43.46 | ChipX86 | now they have a movie coming out with an alien that eats everybody |
| 06:44.09 | purple_cow | hehe |
| 06:44.13 | nullpuppy | hehe |
| 06:44.14 | nullpuppy | yup |
| 06:50.02 | ChipX86 | hah, the next episode is like the Matrix |
| 06:51.00 | ChipX86 | or the Ratmix as they call it |
| 06:57.29 | numist | damnit whats breaking now.. it worked fine an hour ago |
| 07:00.26 | purple_cow | argh, zero's IO is seriously deaded |
| 07:01.07 | ChipX86 | mmmm, ice cream |
| 07:01.17 | scanlime | ooh, ice cream.. |
| 07:01.21 | scanlime | that sounds great right now |
| 07:01.24 | ChipX86 | :) |
| 07:01.35 | scanlime | purple_cow: any idea why? |
| 07:01.36 | ChipX86 | I'm really appreciating the weather here right now |
| 07:01.46 | ChipX86 | the day I was coming back from Chico, it was over 100 degrees there |
| 07:01.59 | ChipX86 | then I got to this area and saw a big sign saying the weather - 65 degrees |
| 07:01.59 | scanlime | purple_cow: swap is mighty full |
| 07:02.02 | scanlime | :) |
| 07:02.05 | *** join/#tacobeam Secret|away (i=SecretMe@c-67-173-67-244.hsd1.il.comcast.net) |
| 07:02.29 | ChipX86 | nice ~35 degree difference between Chico and here. mmmm... Chico summers are painful |
| 07:02.58 | purple_cow | there, apache restarted and a bunch of rrdtools killed off |
| 07:03.03 | scanlime | oh |
| 07:03.17 | ChipX86 | I want to restart apache! |
| 07:03.33 | scanlime | . |
| 07:03.39 | scanlime | why does this hate me so much.. |
| 07:03.46 | scanlime | now I'm getting kernel oopes all over from ubuntu's install CD |
| 07:03.55 | ChipX86 | ugh |
| 07:04.02 | scanlime | either this motherboard is just as flaky, or my CD is more bad than I thought |
| 07:04.06 | scanlime | I should just burn one at work tomorrow |
| 07:04.13 | ChipX86 | you have a burner there? |
| 07:04.22 | scanlime | I can bring this one in |
| 07:04.25 | ChipX86 | ah |
| 07:04.34 | scanlime | it's a good burner, but my laptop is too slow to keep up with it |
| 07:04.44 | scanlime | (no usb2) |
| 07:05.00 | scanlime | and I'm really not in the mood to install cdrecord on an nslu2... |
| 07:05.12 | scanlime | I could burn from this desktop machine that I'm installing linux on.. it has a windows partition |
| 07:05.22 | scanlime | but I can't boot that partition now, since it has no bootloader |
| 07:05.38 | scanlime | and grub and lilo are part of the linux system I can't install at the moment |
| 07:05.38 | purple_cow | i thought you were using wasabi's motherboard? |
| 07:05.42 | purple_cow | maybe test the RAM? |
| 07:05.42 | scanlime | I am |
| 07:05.51 | scanlime | couldn't hurt... |
| 07:06.24 | CIA-11 | osiris-misc: 03chipx86 * r180 10taco/src/thingies/TacoBeam.cs: Add the Taco Beam, which will, I don't know, turn everything in its path into tacos, or something. |
| 07:06.35 | purple_cow | hehe |
| 07:06.48 | purple_cow | wow, comments on my blog! |
| 07:07.53 | ChipX86 | All State's latest commercial says that they care about people so they hand out coffee and teddy bears to people who lose everything |
| 07:09.02 | ChipX86 | they showed a house destroyed by a tornado or something and showed how they gave the kid a teddy bear to make everything start to be normal again. I thought it was amusing |
| 07:10.05 | scanlime | sigh... I don't have any good boot CDs around here |
| 07:11.42 | darth_mall | ugh |
| 07:11.45 | darth_mall | I need to get some sleep |
| 07:12.45 | scanlime | g'night |
| 07:12.47 | purple_cow | whoa |
| 07:12.48 | purple_cow | http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=strawberry+rhubarb+pie+band&btnG=Google+Search |
| 07:14.20 | purple_cow | why the hell would someone search for that? |
| 07:14.31 | ChipX86 | you didn't search for that? |
| 07:15.44 | purple_cow | ChipX86: it was one of the search strings on my webalizer... |
| 07:15.48 | ChipX86 | oh |
| 07:16.51 | rioter | haha |
| 07:17.31 | scanlime | wow |
| 07:17.31 | scanlime | http://www.krilo.com/ |
| 07:17.36 | scanlime | ugliest web site I've seen lately |
| 07:18.09 | ChipX86 | what's hte command in linux to see the io token stats? |
| 07:18.12 | ChipX86 | eww |
| 07:18.17 | purple_cow | ChipX86: cat /proc/io_status |
| 07:18.28 | ChipX86 | oh, that makes sense |
| 07:25.16 | scanlime | oh, geez |
| 07:25.21 | scanlime | memtest86 already came out with a pile of failures |
| 07:25.24 | scanlime | purple_cow: good idea |
| 07:25.45 | ChipX86 | uh oh |
| 07:25.48 | scanlime | damn cheapo "valueRAM"... |
| 07:25.51 | ChipX86 | :( |
| 07:26.09 | scanlime | I can probably just pull out the stick I yanked from yoshi |
| 07:26.13 | scanlime | I doubt wasabi's ram was bad |
| 07:26.20 | scanlime | but this would explain a lot of my problems with yoshi maybe... |
| 07:26.34 | scanlime | either that or this motherboard is pickier about dram timings |
| 07:27.15 | scanlime | this would definitely explain all the segfaulting bits of the ubuntu installer |
| 07:32.33 | scanlime | huh |
| 07:32.38 | scanlime | even with only wasabi's original RAM it's failing |
| 07:32.45 | ChipX86 | weird |
| 07:35.00 | darth_mall | alright |
| 07:35.02 | purple_cow | wasabi's might have been going bad - i could never figure out why we were getting those crashes |
| 07:35.04 | darth_mall | I can finally get some sleep |
| 07:35.13 | purple_cow | 'night darth_mall |
| 07:35.15 | scanlime | purple_cow: true |
| 07:35.43 | scanlime | nope, not the cards |
| 07:37.07 | scanlime | hmm |
| 07:37.18 | scanlime | swapped out wasabi's stick for a 512 from yoshi.. no failures yet |
| 07:37.28 | scanlime | guess that might very well explain wasabi's crashiness |
| 07:37.38 | purple_cow | yay ideas |
| 07:37.39 | CIA-11 | osiris-misc: 03chipx86 * r181 10taco/ (11 files in 3 dirs): Hey look! A build environment. |
| 07:37.51 | scanlime | yep |
| 07:37.52 | scanlime | thanks |
| 07:38.13 | CIA-11 | osiris-misc: 03chipx86 * r182 10taco/ (COPYING INSTALL): Missing files. |
| 07:38.20 | purple_cow | ooh, now i can build taco! |
| 07:38.26 | scanlime | I might as well just stick both of yoshi's sticks in there and let memtest run its course... it adds up to 768 either way, and it's looking pretty sure that wasabi's old ram is bad |
| 07:38.26 | ChipX86 | it won't compile :) |
| 07:38.48 | scanlime | or.. I'm too impatient for memtest86. I want ubuntu. |
| 07:40.15 | CIA-11 | osiris-misc: 03chipx86 * r183 10taco/ (. images/ src/): Ignore stuff. |
| 07:41.22 | purple_cow | hehe, yay RPG episode |
| 07:42.18 | scanlime | purple_cow: yeah.. first couple passes should tell me what I want |
| 07:42.30 | scanlime | er, first couple tests in the first pass |
| 07:42.45 | scanlime | yay |
| 07:42.57 | scanlime | that was fun |
| 07:43.07 | scanlime | actually.. |
| 07:43.08 | ChipX86 | that's not fun. You msut destroy it. |
| 07:43.32 | purple_cow | i've never seen RAM fail in a way that wasn't spectacularly obvious from the first pass |
| 07:43.36 | scanlime | I need to try out that paste, and old DRAM is great for that |
| 07:43.41 | scanlime | purple_cow: nod |
| 07:44.21 | purple_cow | uh oh, is scanlime in the market for an old toaster? |
| 07:44.24 | scanlime | oh, I guess if I wanted a full gig there's some ram in navi... |
| 07:44.35 | scanlime | purple_cow: no |
| 07:44.58 | scanlime | my hot air iron will do fine.. unless I want to mass-produce someting |
| 07:45.07 | purple_cow | heh |
| 07:45.49 | purple_cow | if it works, that might be a very decent way to throw together uvswitch2s :) |
| 07:46.10 | scanlime | yep |
| 07:47.07 | ChipX86 | the happy one means it's safe to use the partition |
| 07:47.14 | scanlime | ah |
| 07:47.15 | ChipX86 | the sad one means you could lose dat |
| 07:47.16 | ChipX86 | a |
| 07:47.22 | scanlime | I see. |
| 07:47.28 | ChipX86 | isn't it obvious? ;) |
| 07:47.37 | purple_cow | hmm, boo. this year's siggraph poster isn't quite the same size as last's |
| 07:47.39 | scanlime | well, the sad one doesn't look all that sad to me |
| 07:48.25 | scanlime | they need talking icons. "Hello, I'm a metaphor for your existing data. Can you guess why I'm sad?" |
| 07:49.02 | scanlime | then it does into something like those bunny suicide comics... |
| 07:49.07 | numist | lol |
| 07:49.19 | purple_cow | heh, speaking of cute, fuzzy suicide |
| 07:49.23 | scanlime | mayhem ensues.. which may involve some partitioning |
| 07:49.35 | purple_cow | when i went to buy bagels, i saw a herd of raccoons crossing canyon |
| 07:49.39 | purple_cow | it was odd |
| 07:49.52 | scanlime | hehe |
| 07:49.54 | scanlime | I love those |
| 07:50.09 | purple_cow | maybe it was the same 5 :) |
| 07:50.18 | scanlime | ooh.. it's installing the base system.. no segfaults yet! |
| 07:50.25 | purple_cow | scanlime: =) |
| 07:50.37 | scanlime | I guess maybe I can indeed burn CDs successfully over cheapo usb adaptors with this laptop |
| 07:50.57 | scanlime | it's so odd to just see a 5.25" drive sitting on the floor with a cable going into my laptop |
| 07:51.00 | scanlime | no case |
| 07:51.30 | scanlime | nice and compact though.. if it wasn't so ugly I think this would be more popular |
| 07:52.24 | CIA-11 | osiris-misc: 03chipx86 * r184 10taco/ (13 files in 5 dirs): It compiles! |
| 07:52.33 | scanlime | might need to take apart this 80gb drive.. |
| 07:52.51 | scanlime | it squeaks, isn't detected by the bios, then just sits there.. but it has some sensitive ssh keys on it |
| 07:53.13 | purple_cow | don't let the magnets pinch your fingers and make you cry! |
| 07:53.17 | scanlime | :) |
| 07:53.23 | scanlime | I need more refrigerator magnets |
| 07:53.33 | nullpuppy | do you plan on recovering the keys? or simply destroying any chance of recovery? :) |
| 07:53.44 | scanlime | I have a few hard disk magnets plus guinness bottle caps that work pretty well |
| 07:54.01 | scanlime | nullpuppy: destroying any chance of recovery.. it doesn't really matter that much though |
| 07:54.07 | nullpuppy | ok ;) |
| 07:54.13 | scanlime | nobody's going to take an electron microscope to a dead disk to get keys for navi or CIA... |
| 07:54.27 | nullpuppy | hehe |
| 07:54.28 | scanlime | especially when they could just take navi's /home partition and get the same stuff |
| 07:54.38 | nullpuppy | hehe |
| 07:55.03 | scanlime | wow, still copying packages |
| 07:55.08 | scanlime | no evil red flashy errors |
| 07:55.14 | nullpuppy | this is a damn neat bowtie |
| 07:55.32 | nullpuppy | http://gremlin.nulldomain.com/~dustin/3d-BowTie-1.png |
| 07:56.07 | nullpuppy | hehe |
| 07:57.06 | nullpuppy | the only issue i had in making this was getting the damn edges of the cones to render properly... took forever to figure out what was causing the odd look, that image has it fixed though ;) |
| 07:57.16 | scanlime | hmm |
| 07:57.32 | nullpuppy | hmm, i think i like the result of focal blur, this looks even nicer |
| 07:57.35 | scanlime | "Why are you writing yet another 3D modeller with a GUI cloned from 3dsmax" isnt' in the FAQ |
| 07:57.56 | nullpuppy | haha |
| 07:58.02 | scanlime | I'm sure they have a reason, but I'm curious |
| 07:58.08 | nullpuppy | yeah |
| 07:58.16 | nullpuppy | truevision is kinda nice, simple 3d modeller for povray |
| 07:58.30 | nullpuppy | :) |
| 07:58.37 | ChipX86 | which modeller is this? |
| 07:58.47 | nullpuppy | truevision |
| 07:59.03 | ChipX86 | interesting |
| 07:59.05 | purple_cow | nullpuppy: blender just requires reading the documentation |
| 07:59.12 | nullpuppy | yeah |
| 07:59.14 | ChipX86 | and experimenting. A lot. |
| 07:59.19 | nullpuppy | yup |
| 07:59.31 | ChipX86 | i shoul play in blender again |
| 07:59.42 | nullpuppy | i haven't had the time and energy to sit down and read through the documentation and experiment :) |
| 08:00.27 | scanlime | yay |
| 08:00.33 | scanlime | "rebooting into your new ubuntu system" |
| 08:00.36 | ChipX86 | :D |
| 08:00.44 | ChipX86 | and now the computer bursts into flames |
| 08:00.58 | nullpuppy | http://gremlin.nulldomain.com/~dustin/Screenshot-Truevision.png |
| 08:02.09 | scanlime | wow |
| 08:02.24 | scanlime | so weird for me to have a minitower machine, and for my computer to boot on the first try |
| 08:02.33 | nullpuppy | haha |
| 08:02.44 | purple_cow | ChipX86: svn add App.cs |
| 08:03.02 | nullpuppy | i still feel nervous on the first boot on every system i put together |
| 08:03.23 | scanlime | I think my windows install isn't happy though... |
| 08:03.30 | nullpuppy | rarely have a problem.. but still :) |
| 08:03.36 | nullpuppy | hehe, new hardware? |
| 08:03.37 | CIA-11 | osiris-misc: 03chipx86 * r185 10taco/src/App.cs: It's a good thing purple_cow is there to catch my stupid mistakes. Well, some of them anyway. |
| 08:03.49 | nullpuppy | if it is, i highly doubt it'll be happy :) |
| 08:03.56 | scanlime | dunno. I might have had it hibernated rather than shut down before Is tarted all this |
| 08:04.01 | scanlime | but yes, new hardware |
| 08:04.07 | purple_cow | wow, it does so much! |
| 08:04.12 | scanlime | everything except the video card and sound card is new I think |
| 08:04.15 | ChipX86 | purple_cow: :D |
| 08:04.15 | nullpuppy | what did you move from/to? |
| 08:04.19 | nullpuppy | hehe |
| 08:04.21 | ChipX86 | it's like the early days of tickypip |
| 08:04.33 | scanlime | nullpuppy: I just moved parts of yoshi and parts of wasabi into the same case to try and get one working computer |
| 08:05.03 | nullpuppy | ah, ok |
| 08:05.04 | scanlime | it's yoshi's 120GB disk which previously just had windows XP |
| 08:05.09 | scanlime | the now-dead 80GB disk had linux |
| 08:05.13 | nullpuppy | what motherboards? |
| 08:05.17 | scanlime | luckily I already had the 120GB split into two partitions |
| 08:05.21 | scanlime | I have no idea.. |
| 08:05.25 | nullpuppy | ok :) |
| 08:05.38 | scanlime | yoshi was using the RAID motherboard that navi used to run, before its disk controllers started barfing on our data |
| 08:06.04 | scanlime | I forget what's in wasabi.. something simple and cheap that seems to work |
| 08:06.11 | scanlime | both have athlon xp 1800+ CPUs |
| 08:06.28 | nullpuppy | any idea what motherboard chipsets were used? |
| 08:06.52 | scanlime | looks like ALi |
| 08:07.01 | nullpuppy | hmm, on both? |
| 08:07.07 | scanlime | on this one |
| 08:07.12 | nullpuppy | ah, k |
| 08:07.16 | scanlime | the other board had a K7-RAID |
| 08:07.45 | nullpuppy | hmm, ok |
| 08:08.33 | nullpuppy | fun stuff happens when changing hardware, and usually, the chipset makes or breaks the attempt :) its rather.. interesting how that works out |
| 08:08.55 | scanlime | eh, not a big deal if I have to reinstall windows |
| 08:08.55 | nullpuppy | via<->nvidia usually works decently well, sis usually breaks horribly iirc |
| 08:08.58 | nullpuppy | yeah |
| 08:09.19 | scanlime | as long as my hard disk and RAM hold together, I'll be happy |
| 08:09.20 | nullpuppy | depending on whats happening, and how its running.. an overinstall/repair install may be enough |
| 08:09.28 | nullpuppy | yeah :) |
| 08:09.41 | scanlime | this is one of the old 120GB disks that was failing in navi |
| 08:09.49 | scanlime | but it seems to be fine on this machine.. so far |
| 08:09.55 | ChipX86 | heh |
| 08:10.10 | nullpuppy | just out of curiousity.. what brand is it? :) |
| 08:10.21 | scanlime | I think this one's a deathstar |
| 08:10.29 | scanlime | could also be some of the other ones.. maxtor I think |
| 08:10.34 | nullpuppy | ah, ouch |
| 08:10.44 | purple_cow | we had deathstars and seagates |
| 08:10.48 | scanlime | ah, seagate |
| 08:11.02 | scanlime | yeah.. the seagates actually seemed to give us just as much trouble as the deathstars |
| 08:11.09 | nullpuppy | actually. the deskstars are rather interesting.. they seem to get right around 3years of use.. then boom, fail :) |
| 08:11.22 | nullpuppy | hmm, yeah, i could see that, depending on the age |
| 08:11.23 | ChipX86 | yeah, mine was about 3 years when it stopped working |
| 08:11.23 | purple_cow | scanlime: or more :P |
| 08:11.24 | rioter | if you were lucky to get 3 years out of them haha |
| 08:11.32 | nullpuppy | the new drives are pretty good |
| 08:11.48 | nullpuppy | rioter: hehe |
| 08:11.54 | scanlime | navi was not a very disk friendly environment |
| 08:11.56 | purple_cow | hitachi owns the deathstar brand now, right? |
| 08:11.57 | nullpuppy | rioter: 80gb glass platers baby :) |
| 08:12.25 | ChipX86 | raise your hand if you have System.Drawing experience |
| 08:12.27 | nullpuppy | purple_cow: hitachi owns' ibm's hdd division iirc |
| 08:12.29 | nullpuppy | so, yeah :) |
| 08:12.45 | nullpuppy | ChipX86: define experience :) |
| 08:12.52 | ChipX86 | you've used it on mono |
| 08:12.54 | nullpuppy | i've looked at it briefly, i've used stuff out of it |
| 08:12.56 | rioter | counts me out |
| 08:13.00 | nullpuppy | but not a lot |
| 08:13.07 | nullpuppy | and, haven't used it in mono |
| 08:13.16 | nullpuppy | i used it in the evil environment |
| 08:13.23 | ChipX86 | I just need to see some example code |
| 08:13.28 | purple_cow | fyre2 uses it to draw pipelines |
| 08:14.05 | nullpuppy | i think the only thing i've actually used it for thusfar has been color stuff |
| 08:14.16 | nullpuppy | not really any actual drawing or anything |
| 08:19.51 | CIA-11 | osiris-misc: 03chipx86 * r186 10taco/ (15 files in 4 dirs): Put slots, connectors, and thingies into their own namespaces. |
| 08:20.57 | CIA-11 | osiris-misc: 03chipx86 * r187 10taco/ (10 files in 4 dirs): Remove the Slot and Connector suffixes on the files. |
| 08:26.21 | purple_cow | man what a weird series |
| 08:29.29 | *** join/#tacobeam KSoze (n=mgazic@63.138.16.130) |
| 08:30.40 | ChipX86 | bed time for me. Picnic tomorrow |
| 08:30.45 | ChipX86|Sleep | g'night |
| 08:30.53 | scanlime | g'night |
| 08:31.05 | nullpuppy | g'night |
| 08:31.15 | nullpuppy | sleep is probably a good idea, i should see about doing that soon |
| 08:34.38 | rioter | mmm |
| 08:34.42 | rioter | me too but i got a shell script to write |
| 08:45.08 | scanlime | yes.. this windows install no longer likes me |
| 08:45.24 | scanlime | but yay, ubuntu works and I found some good documentation on the c64 serial bus |
| 08:45.34 | scanlime | I should go to bed before I feel compelled to make use of it |
| 08:50.21 | purple_cow | best episode title ever |
| 09:01.18 | purple_cow | ok, this is one of the stranger things i've seen today |
| 09:02.53 | CIA-11 | numi-misc: 03numist * r112 10phpcount/ (11 files in 6 dirs): capture side and image side are done, next comes the stats |
| 11:12.55 | *** join/#tacobeam numist (n=scott@pdpc/supporter/sustaining/numist) |
| 11:42.30 | gonkulator | ten minutes until the launch window opens |
| 11:57.33 | gonkulator | oh, not yet |
| 13:02.46 | *** join/#tacobeam Cae (n=cae@pixpat.austin.ibm.com) |
| 13:55.57 | pfault | for the mars thing? |
| 13:55.59 | pfault | I thought it got delayed |
| 14:10.42 | *** join/#tacobeam lurgy (n=lurgyman@boulder.navi.cx) |
| 14:12.40 | Cae | hey lurgy |
| 14:15.39 | lurgy | howdy cae |
| 14:18.25 | Cae | who also believes that no *nix viruses have existed in the wild |
| 14:18.49 | Cae | despite repeated evidence to the contrary |
| 14:19.24 | Cae | I love open source. this does not mean that I jump to the conclusion that anything related to *nix is an attack on it! |
| 14:20.09 | pfault | well when you have such low market share and usage of unix |
| 14:20.13 | pfault | there are bound to be less viruses |
| 14:25.29 | Cae | yes, but they DO exist |
| 14:25.52 | pfault | true |
| 14:26.10 | Cae | I'm not arguing that there are significantly fewer of them for linux/unix than for windows. I'm arguing that they exist, and that yes, they've been found in the wild |
| 14:27.01 | pfault | yep |
| 14:27.09 | pfault | BUFFALO, N.Y. First he stole a potato chip delivery truck, then he tried to sell its cargo for five dollars so he could get a beer. |
| 14:27.10 | pfault | That's according to police in Buffalo, New York, where a man was arrested yesterday and charged with driving while intoxicated, grand larceny and other offenses. |
| 14:29.03 | Cae | lol |
| 14:49.09 | Cae | bleh..why does dev cvs not want to be touched right now by me? |
| 14:52.30 | pfault | I guess it doesn't like it |
| 14:53.14 | Cae | normally I can just log in to the shell server and grab cvs from there (and thus avoid port forwarding - which likes me even less) |
| 14:56.15 | lurgy | come now Cae |
| 14:56.19 | lurgy | no means no |
| 14:56.53 | Cae | no, no means it's just not thinking straight :P |
| 14:57.05 | pfault | I don't get why they have so many personal ads on fark.com |
| 14:57.19 | Cae | lonely people? |
| 14:57.28 | pfault | yeah but do a lot of lonely people go to fark.com or something? |
| 14:57.32 | pfault | it's just kinda weird |
| 14:58.00 | Cae | lurgy: yeah..or if I were talking about anything other than computers |
| 14:58.20 | pfault | yay |
| 14:58.38 | pfault | I can eat lunch now |
| 14:58.45 | file[laptop] | excellent |
| 14:58.47 | file[laptop] | I should eat lunch too |
| 14:58.52 | Cae | I don't think I'm awake enough to do coherent port forwarding to get cvs.. |
| 15:00.32 | pfault | have some more caffeine |
| 15:01.06 | Cae | I haven't had any caffeine.. |
| 15:01.22 | pfault | well there is your problem |
| 15:01.26 | pfault | you need to get a fix |
| 15:01.48 | file[laptop] | that's pfault's answer to everything |
| 15:01.55 | file[laptop] | "You're blind, try some caffeine!" |
| 15:03.31 | pfault | hmm |
| 15:03.50 | pfault | what I don't understand is how NASA has all these glitches at the last minute |
| 15:03.55 | Cae | heh |
| 15:04.42 | pfault | I mean they are only catching it now? |
| 15:04.46 | pfault | thats kind of scary |
| 15:05.00 | file[laptop] | great, another 10000 Rolling Stone's tickets on sale |
| 15:05.14 | pfault | where are they playing at? |
| 15:05.34 | file[laptop] | here. |
| 15:05.46 | lurgy | Cae: shush now :P |
| 15:05.53 | file[laptop] | over in Moncton... |
| 15:07.44 | pfault | wow they are playing there? |
| 15:07.57 | file[laptop] | yup |
| 15:09.02 | pfault | google is slow today |
| 15:10.04 | pfault | looks like bad routing |
| 15:16.03 | pfault | http://www.jinx.com/scripts/details.asp?affid=-1&productID=415 |
| 15:16.04 | pfault | hahahah |
| 15:21.49 | pfault | http://www.penny-arcade.com/view.php?date=2002-07-31&res=l |
| 15:28.04 | Veight | morning |
| 15:28.59 | Veight | its so quiet with kergoth gone and no one here |
| 15:29.22 | Cae | heh |
| 15:29.26 | pfault | I need to get that WoW shirt |
| 15:31.44 | Veight | you can at least play wow lol |
| 15:32.39 | pfault | hehe |
| 15:33.03 | pfault | I wonder if IBM and Sun are going to go along with HP's recommendation to relicense their stuff under GPL |
| 15:38.44 | darth_mall | bored |
| 15:40.44 | darth_mall | hmm... I might hit starbucks on my way over to building 17 |
| 15:51.54 | pfault | cool |
| 15:52.01 | pfault | the radeon 9000+ open source drivers are in mesa now |
| 15:52.07 | gonkulator | shoot shoot shoot |
| 15:52.46 | *** join/#tacobeam JeffM2501 (n=JeffM@users.gibbscam.com) |
| 16:00.16 | pfault | hmm |
| 16:00.19 | pfault | my latency to my gateway is like |
| 16:00.20 | pfault | 5ms now |
| 16:04.02 | *** join/#tacobeam lurgy|work (n=dkuester@rex.colorado.edu) |
| 16:13.58 | CIA-11 | g2bridge: 03evan * r601 10documents/web/configure_g2.html: Instructions for configuring G2. |
| 16:19.36 | pfault | wow |
| 16:19.38 | pfault | 16x DVD |
| 16:19.42 | Cae | heh |
| 16:19.48 | pfault | $15 for 25 |
| 16:19.50 | pfault | CAD |
| 16:23.00 | scanlime | hah |
| 16:23.29 | scanlime | http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=dn7826 |
| 16:23.37 | scanlime | it's just knoppix and vmware on an ipod |
| 16:24.41 | Cae | hehe |
| 16:33.13 | darth_mall | take that! |
| 16:33.38 | scanlime | ow |
| 16:34.48 | darth_mall | hmm... I'll soon need to get qwest to give us a static IP and register a domain name for my nslu2 |
| 16:35.56 | CIA-11 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10bzflag/ (include/bzfsAPI.h src/bzfs/bzfsAPI.cxx): add ability for the URL job to support HTTP post |
| 16:36.03 | scanlime | so you're already moved out, and purple_cow is packing up? |
| 16:39.18 | darth_mall | I'm mostly moved out |
| 16:39.33 | darth_mall | couple of odds and ends left, mostly cleaning out the kitchen of my foodstuffs |
| 16:39.36 | darth_mall | and then cleaning |
| 16:40.21 | *** join/#tacobeam nullpuppy (n=dustin@c-67-168-57-175.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) |
| 16:40.54 | Cae | cool :) |
| 16:40.56 | nullpuppy | yaya |
| 16:40.59 | Cae | how do you like it so far? |
| 16:41.01 | nullpuppy | erm.. yay! |
| 16:41.54 | kergoth | working for a small company is gonna take some getting used to |
| 16:41.59 | kergoth | but seems pretty decent |
| 16:42.06 | kergoth | dunno if there'll be any challenge to the work though. |
| 16:42.36 | CIA-11 | g2bridge: 03evan * r602 10documents/web/ (8 files): Add a link back to the PDU references page. |
| 16:43.17 | nullpuppy | yay, all reconneted and up again |
| 16:43.31 | darth_mall | oof |
| 16:43.39 | darth_mall | I am going to have such a hard time staying awake during these presentations |
| 16:43.44 | Cae | hehe |
| 16:43.50 | Cae | morning ChipX86 |
| 16:44.05 | ChipX86 | morning |
| 16:44.10 | ChipX86 | my keboad is really stickng now |
| 16:44.13 | nullpuppy | :( |
| 16:44.14 | ChipX86 | time to call ibm |
| 16:44.15 | darth_mall | >< |
| 16:44.32 | nullpuppy | get some rubbing alcohol and clean em off |
| 16:44.34 | darth_mall | you can be all, "IBM! Eat my shorts! I mean... Hi." |
| 16:44.38 | Cae | heh |
| 16:44.47 | ChipX86 | I still need them to fix another problme anywa |
| 16:44.55 | file | I didn't notice, but our database box is running SunOS |
| 16:44.59 | Cae | hmm..what would be the best way to go about testing galago..well..xchat-gnome first, I think.. |
| 16:44.59 | nullpuppy | kk :) |
| 16:46.41 | darth_mall | damned allergies |
| 16:47.16 | Cae | heh. I'm on singulair, allerx, and flonase |
| 16:47.31 | Cae | all prescription, all drowsy. |
| 16:47.52 | Cae | I'm immune to the non-drowsy stuff. |
| 16:47.54 | CIA-11 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10bzflag/include/bzfsAPI.h: default handler for URLs to NULL |
| 16:49.04 | darth_mall | claritin works great for me, sometimes even against cats, but only if I remember to take it >< |
| 16:50.01 | JeffM2501 | ha, my tacobeam log dwarfs my bzflag log |
| 16:50.10 | darth_mall | hehe... it's tempting to name the "feed vessels" in this diagram "feed wessels" |
| 16:50.25 | ChipX86 | do it :) |
| 16:50.51 | scanlime | :) |
| 16:51.05 | scanlime | need music |
| 16:54.05 | ChipX86 | :( |
| 16:54.10 | Cae | heh |
| 16:54.29 | scanlime | hehe |
| 16:54.48 | darth_mall | take that, SULI program! |
| 16:56.34 | darth_mall | man |
| 16:56.46 | darth_mall | the Gimp has become such an important skill for me when writing papers and making presentations |
| 16:57.14 | ChipX86 | ok, ibm's going to send a box and make my life better |
| 16:57.20 | ChipX86 | and I checked on my warrant. It expires October 2007 |
| 16:57.24 | ChipX86 | so I should be good for a little while :) |
| 16:57.28 | pfault | dell is sending me stuff too |
| 16:57.36 | nullpuppy | ChipX86: yay! :) |
| 16:57.46 | pfault | I should take a pic of my charred battery |
| 16:57.48 | nullpuppy | what was the other problem you needed to talk to them about btw? |
| 16:57.51 | file | pfault: non-explodey stuff? |
| 16:57.58 | nullpuppy | pfault: yes! you should, and the others.. charred stuff |
| 16:58.06 | ChipX86 | nullpuppy: my screen's been doing this thing where a big white area will leave a streak all down the screen |
| 16:58.06 | pfault | file, just a lot of melted plastic |
| 16:58.18 | nullpuppy | ChipX86: ah, eww :( |
| 16:58.18 | ChipX86 | it's typically not noticeable, since Ihave terminals at the bottom and all |
| 16:58.31 | ChipX86 | but if I have, say, a text document open or inkscape with no images in it, it's very noticeable |
| 16:58.36 | ChipX86 | and it's reall yhard to type on this now |
| 16:58.52 | nullpuppy | ChipX86: rubbing alcohol and a paper towel :) |
| 16:58.54 | nullpuppy | it'll help |
| 16:58.54 | pfault | I like dell' |
| 16:58.56 | pfault | err |
| 16:59.00 | pfault | dell's warranty is neat |
| 16:59.07 | pfault | you can spill coffee on your laptop and they cover it |
| 16:59.13 | ChipX86 | nullpuppy: I don't have any |
| 16:59.19 | nullpuppy | :( |
| 16:59.23 | ChipX86 | I should get the box otmorrow |
| 16:59.29 | nullpuppy | cool |
| 16:59.30 | ChipX86 | I'll send this and just not be online except at work for a few days |
| 16:59.32 | ChipX86 | however... |
| 16:59.33 | nullpuppy | thats quick |
| 16:59.36 | ChipX86 | I will be on WoW |
| 16:59.40 | nullpuppy | hehe |
| 16:59.43 | ChipX86 | so feel free to hang out there ;) |
| 16:59.43 | nullpuppy | k |
| 16:59.46 | nullpuppy | :) |
| 16:59.50 | ChipX86 | and help me kill those bastards in 1000 Needles |
| 16:59.55 | nullpuppy | hehe |
| 16:59.57 | Cae | hehe |
| 17:00.00 | ChipX86 | oh man, that area was buggy last night |
| 17:00.03 | ChipX86 | all of 1000 Needles |
| 17:00.05 | darth_mall | hmm... this diagram needs a lens flare >=) |
| 17:00.06 | Cae | ohh, I created a tauren warrior last night :) |
| 17:00.11 | Cae | named Cae, no less |
| 17:00.11 | kergoth | yay, tauren |
| 17:00.19 | ChipX86 | I would walk around and just be hit by.. something, and it would hurt a lot |
| 17:00.25 | ChipX86 | there was nothing around me, it didn't indicate that I was being hit |
| 17:00.31 | Cae | I was very happy to discover the name wasn't taken :) |
| 17:00.31 | ChipX86 | I'd quickly die |
| 17:00.35 | nullpuppy | wierd |
| 17:00.39 | ChipX86 | then, while a ghost, I'd be continue to be hit! |
| 17:00.48 | kergoth | haha |
| 17:00.56 | ChipX86 | I'd come back to life, be hit a lot, and die again |
| 17:00.57 | ChipX86 | it was annoying. |
| 17:01.05 | ChipX86 | the second I stepped foot out of thousand needles, it went away |
| 17:01.31 | nullpuppy | huh, odd |
| 17:02.19 | Cae | what are your horde characters on suramar, you guys? |
| 17:02.50 | nullpuppy | Negaduck and GratedCheese |
| 17:02.51 | pfault | I should go play my shammy now |
| 17:03.03 | ChipX86 | can someone e-mail chipx86@gnupdate.org? |
| 17:03.08 | ChipX86 | Cae: Anartha |
| 17:03.08 | nullpuppy | sure |
| 17:03.15 | pfault | Zulmar is mine I think |
| 17:03.19 | ChipX86 | we need to invite you to Naked and Famous |
| 17:03.22 | pfault | thats how much I have played it |
| 17:03.24 | pfault | I can't even remember |
| 17:03.33 | nullpuppy | sent |
| 17:03.39 | ChipX86 | http://osiris.chipx86.com/monitor/diskio/io_status.html |
| 17:03.44 | ChipX86 | guess they fixed the i/o limit :) |
| 17:03.55 | nullpuppy | yay :) |
| 17:04.30 | Cae | LOL. I currently belong to The Barnyard - it's the horde section of my alliance guild |
| 17:04.38 | CIA-11 | g2bridge: 03evan * r603 10documents/suli/ (figures.tex process-overview-bw.png process-overview.png): Add a much nicer process overview and delete the old. |
| 17:04.39 | darth_mall | alright |
| 17:04.53 | ChipX86 | Cae: noooo, Naked and Famous |
| 17:04.54 | darth_mall | I should probably head out to hit starbucks and then get over to building 17 for the presentations |
| 17:05.23 | Cae | ChipX86: I'll see. so far the horde guild isn't active much at all; if it stays that way, I'll switch over. |
| 17:05.32 | darth_mall | later kids |
| 17:05.36 | Cae | but right now I'm only level 6, so.. :) |
| 17:05.38 | Cae | have fun, darth_mall |
| 17:05.45 | nullpuppy | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:05.51 | nullpuppy | $22 to last until monday |
| 17:06.04 | file | nullpuppy: have fun |
| 17:06.15 | nullpuppy | i'll try |
| 17:07.07 | Cae | nullpuppy: :\ |
| 17:07.42 | ChipX86 | ughhhhh |
| 17:07.46 | ChipX86 | god damnit. |
| 17:08.03 | ChipX86 | these guys just want to hack galago apart rathe than understand how it works |
| 17:08.55 | kergoth | Naked and Famous has a teamspeak server now |
| 17:09.00 | Cae | ChipX86: I'm too sleepy to test it right now, but how would you recommend setting up testing it? ie how best to position it so I can poke it to death.. |
| 17:09.03 | Cae | repeatedly.. |
| 17:09.23 | Cae | kergoth: hehe. we use ventrilo ;) |
| 17:09.35 | ChipX86 | Cae: check out libgalago and galago-daemon, install those (galago-daemon mustbe --prefix=/usr --sysconfdir=/etc) |
| 17:09.36 | kergoth | ventrilo is limited to 8 users unless you buy it |
| 17:09.40 | kergoth | hence us using teamspeak :P |
| 17:09.42 | ChipX86 | install libgalago-gtk, eds-feed, evolution, etc |
| 17:09.48 | ChipX86 | the applet |
| 17:09.49 | ChipX86 | and poke an dplay |
| 17:15.45 | nullpuppy | stupid galago ebuilds not having ~amd64 keywords |
| 17:15.53 | ChipX86 | arghhhh |
| 17:16.01 | Cae | heh |
| 17:16.08 | nullpuppy | stupid lack of eds-feed ebuild |
| 17:16.10 | nullpuppy | hmm |
| 17:18.10 | nullpuppy | oh. oops. it is there.. there we go |
| 17:18.59 | nullpuppy | ok, /me attempts to build/install galago! |
| 17:19.05 | Cae | hehe |
| 17:19.45 | nullpuppy | whoops |
| 17:19.55 | nullpuppy | changed the ebuilds.. need to regenerate the damn digests |
| 17:20.22 | lurgy|work | wow |
| 17:20.42 | lurgy|work | the new furniture in the ecenter lobby may be the ugliest furniture i have ever seen |
| 17:20.53 | Cae | how ugly? |
| 17:20.57 | Cae | and what sort of ugly.. |
| 17:21.12 | ChipX86 | ok |
| 17:21.15 | ChipX86 | so this isn't them being dumb |
| 17:21.18 | ChipX86 | this is Nokia being dumb |
| 17:21.18 | nullpuppy | and what kind of furniture? |
| 17:21.21 | file[laptop] | probably an ugly sort of ugly |
| 17:21.30 | ChipX86 | nokia's asking them to merge galago and evolution-data-server |
| 17:21.34 | lurgy|work | Cae: really really ugly |
| 17:21.43 | lurgy|work | Cae: bright clashy colors and ugly patterns ugly |
| 17:21.47 | file[laptop] | lurgy|work: blame Canada |
| 17:21.47 | Cae | lurgy|work: like what? mohair? ah.. |
| 17:23.15 | lurgy|work | and it doesn't look enormously comfortable either |
| 17:23.34 | lurgy|work | heh, no, i think mohair is almost exclusively a texan affliction |
| 17:23.55 | lurgy|work | sometimes it leaks up this far north, but never for long.. |
| 17:24.00 | Cae | no, that's actually cowhide down here |
| 17:24.08 | lurgy|work | ugh |
| 17:24.12 | lurgy|work | well, this furniture's more ugly in a vegas sort of way ;) |
| 17:24.15 | Cae | lol |
| 17:24.56 | ChipX86 | great, netowrk back home is down, which means no e-mail |
| 17:25.03 | ChipX86 | bbl |
| 17:25.25 | nullpuppy | :( |
| 17:49.52 | CIA-11 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10bzflag/src/bzfs/bzfs.cxx: don't automacily load some secret hidden file for calsign filtering, unless we WANT to filter callsigns. |
| 17:59.00 | pfault | damn |
| 17:59.09 | pfault | why is it taking space so long to air the new battlestar episode |
| 17:59.31 | nullpuppy | http://www.inside-security.de/insert_en.html |
| 17:59.38 | nullpuppy | w00t! thats gonna be so freaking useful at work |
| 17:59.47 | nullpuppy | ntfs write support :) tahts fscking awesome |
| 18:06.36 | pfault | http://www.wired.com/news/culture/0,1284,68492,00.html |
| 18:09.55 | scanlime | "FedEx also said in the Aug. 3 letter that Avila clearly intended to operate a business from his website because he used the .com domain suffix, the "commercial level domain," rather than .net." |
| 18:09.59 | scanlime | hah |
| 18:10.27 | kergoth | haha |
| 18:11.10 | nullpuppy | yup |
| 18:11.21 | nullpuppy | go fedex! *cough*morons |
| 18:11.35 | scanlime | they just have bored lawyers |
| 18:11.43 | nullpuppy | hehe, yeah |
| 18:11.45 | file | boredom is crazy |
| 18:12.21 | pfault | thats what tom hanks should have done |
| 18:14.12 | ChipX86|Gone | this OS X in VMware stuff is spreading like crazy |
| 18:14.19 | ChipX86 | it just rocks so much |
| 18:14.24 | nullpuppy | yup |
| 18:14.30 | scanlime | heh, reading fun-list? |
| 18:14.49 | ChipX86 | that and people ran up and told me when I entered the building |
| 18:14.54 | scanlime | haha |
| 18:14.55 | nullpuppy | haha |
| 18:15.50 | scanlime | hmm. Chris is working from home today, and he's busy enough I doubt he'll get around to reviewing my patches soon |
| 18:15.54 | ChipX86 | :/ |
| 18:16.42 | CIA-11 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10bzflag/ (include/bzfsAPI.h src/bzfs/bzfsAPI.cxx): |
| 18:16.42 | CIA-11 | BZFlag: put the missing code back in. |
| 18:16.42 | CIA-11 | BZFlag: make what should be const, const, |
| 18:16.42 | CIA-11 | BZFlag: add filter function so plugins can get valid paths. |
| 18:20.38 | scanlime | hmm |
| 18:21.02 | scanlime | ChipX86: do they tell you how much PTO you have when you get paid? I should have a couple days by the time Serenity comes out... |
| 18:21.42 | nullpuppy | hmm |
| 18:21.59 | nullpuppy | should give me plenty of room taht way |
| 18:22.30 | ChipX86 | scanlime: yeah, they do |
| 18:22.45 | ChipX86 | it doesn't go up very fast |
| 18:23.01 | scanlime | 5 hours per pay period, right? |
| 18:23.09 | ChipX86 | something like that |
| 18:23.31 | ChipX86 | One in 25 men may unknowingly be raising another man's child, according to this report from the Department of Things Made up to Get in the Media |
| 18:23.50 | nullpuppy | hahaah |
| 18:23.53 | scanlime | hehe |
| 18:24.56 | pfault | I guess I should join the crowd and get OSX installed |
| 18:25.01 | nullpuppy | hehe |
| 18:25.29 | nullpuppy | i'm really starting to want to get a mac mini again, or some other mac |
| 18:25.36 | nullpuppy | its too bad i'm broke and can't afford to :( |
| 18:26.11 | scanlime | it's quite tempting to use a mac mini as a HTPC once I have a need for such a thing |
| 18:26.13 | pfault | http://www.strengholt-online.nl/osx_howto/index.htm |
| 18:26.20 | scanlime | since I just took apart my HTPC to make a desktop machine... |
| 18:26.21 | pfault | http://www.strengholt-online.nl/osx_howto/index.htm |
| 18:26.21 | pfault | oops |
| 18:26.27 | pfault | that site had everything |
| 18:26.30 | pfault | to get started |
| 18:26.31 | nullpuppy | hehe, yeah |
| 18:28.16 | nullpuppy | haha |
| 18:28.20 | nullpuppy | you should so do that |
| 18:28.52 | pfault | haha |
| 18:28.52 | scanlime | the C64 woudln't even have enough bandwidth to set up DMA between a disk and an mpeg decoder probably.. even if it had DMA :) |
| 18:28.54 | pfault | opendarwin.org is down |
| 18:28.58 | pfault | people leeching it |
| 18:29.05 | nullpuppy | yup |
| 18:29.23 | nullpuppy | osx86project.org is down too i think (because of /.) |
| 18:29.29 | nullpuppy | scanlime: hehe |
| 18:32.47 | scanlime | bleh |
| 18:33.09 | scanlime | why did they settle on syntax like "\\\\.\\foo" rather than "/dev/foo"? |
| 18:33.53 | ChipX86 | scanlime: to be different! |
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| 18:34.01 | *** part/#tacobeam pagefault (i=Eric@69.156.37.8) |
| 18:34.03 | *** join/#tacobeam pagefault (i=Eric@69.156.37.8) |
| 18:34.50 | scanlime | hrm |
| 18:34.54 | scanlime | my rio battery didn't charge all the way |
| 18:34.56 | ChipX86 | oh wow, Abdullah Shaikh is leaving |
| 18:35.19 | ChipX86 | I bought my windows box from him |
| 18:35.55 | ChipX86 | "As the city bleeds red ink and prepares to lay off police and fire personnel, contractors are gearing up to build a $1 million display pen for 20 European fallow deer and native Michigan animals at Belle Isle's new nature zoo." |
| 18:36.30 | nullpuppy | ... wow |
| 18:38.35 | scanlime | there's radiation in my TV set |
| 18:38.44 | nullpuppy | whats template mode do? |
| 18:38.58 | ChipX86 | for VMs? |
| 18:39.03 | nullpuppy | yeah |
| 18:39.04 | ChipX86 | heh |
| 18:39.08 | ChipX86 | well, quick background :) |
| 18:39.16 | ChipX86 | we had a dogfood day where we tested our product |
| 18:39.27 | nullpuppy | k |
| 18:39.39 | ChipX86 | and people had to do clones (linked clones I think) off the network |
| 18:39.44 | ChipX86 | and there was something like permission issues |
| 18:39.49 | ChipX86 | and as a result, the new clones were useless |
| 18:39.54 | nullpuppy | ok |
| 18:39.55 | ChipX86 | so we made a special type of VM.. a template VM |
| 18:40.01 | ChipX86 | and it solves all those problems... somehow.. |
| 18:40.06 | nullpuppy | hahaha |
| 18:40.09 | nullpuppy | ok |
| 18:40.30 | nullpuppy | so it does some kind od magic that allows it to be cloned multiple times without causing wierd problems? |
| 18:40.36 | nullpuppy | s/od/of/ |
| 18:40.53 | ChipX86 | I have no idea |
| 18:40.59 | nullpuppy | hehe, k |
| 18:41.00 | ChipX86 | the whole thing was silly |
| 18:41.19 | scanlime | huh |
| 18:41.37 | ChipX86 | actually, got to go |
| 18:41.38 | ChipX86 | bbl |
| 18:41.54 | nullpuppy | cya |
| 18:42.00 | ChipX86 | actually |
| 18:42.02 | ChipX86 | it should be in help |
| 18:42.18 | ChipX86 | ah |
| 18:43.03 | pagefault | http://wooe.org/tmp/p4-dell-1.jpg |
| 18:43.25 | nullpuppy | hmm, ok |
| 18:43.26 | pagefault | http://wooe.org/tmp/p4-dell-2.jpg |
| 18:43.36 | pagefault | running in native mode |
| 18:43.42 | nullpuppy | cool |
| 18:43.54 | nullpuppy | pagefault: http://gremlin.nulldomain.com/~dustin/vmware-osx.png ;) |
| 18:44.08 | nullpuppy | it runs like crap though.. i need to try and do the install myself... |
| 18:44.35 | pagefault | I have to do it on my lappy |
| 18:44.39 | pagefault | since it needs SSE2 |
| 18:44.49 | nullpuppy | yup |
| 18:44.56 | nullpuppy | if you want rosetta, it needs ss3 |
| 18:44.59 | nullpuppy | *sse3 |
| 18:45.19 | nullpuppy | or find the patch that'll make it run (but not well..) using sse2 |
| 18:45.21 | nullpuppy | or so i hear.. |
| 18:46.45 | nullpuppy | ok.. time to install vmware tools, then install sp2, finish the updates, and then back the damn thing up to dvd :) |
| 18:46.54 | pagefault | rosetta is the PPC emulator right? |
| 18:47.14 | nullpuppy | yeah |
| 18:54.27 | pagefault | I am getting stupid by reading slashdot |
| 18:54.31 | pagefault | I need to stop doing it |
| 18:57.58 | *** join/#tacobeam Veight (n=Veight@c-24-118-219-25.hsd1.mn.comcast.net) |
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| 19:02.50 | scanlime | [n=dustin@freematrix/staff/nullpuppy] |
| 19:02.56 | scanlime | it just keeps getting weirder |
| 19:02.58 | scanlime | slashes now? |
| 19:03.28 | scanlime | no, before that in the quit message |
| 19:03.30 | scanlime | from when he was registered |
| 19:04.07 | purple_cow | ah. my quit messages don't show hostmask |
| 19:04.09 | pagefault | it's weird on TNG that they have analog inteference artifacts in communications |
| 19:04.16 | pagefault | but you would think by that time everything would be digital |
| 19:04.49 | scanlime | digital is a fad |
| 19:05.12 | nullpuppy | yup, they cloaks are all wierd now *shrugs* |
| 19:05.36 | nullpuppy | gonna be cycling again in a minute too.. really need to do something about my network setup... |
| 19:05.37 | pagefault | well I guess until someone discovers something else |
| 19:07.46 | *** join/#tacobeam nullpuppy (n=dustin@c-67-168-57-175.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) |
| 19:09.14 | nullpuppy | there we go |
| 19:09.24 | nullpuppy | more power shoved under my desk |
| 19:26.46 | nullpuppy | oooh, Rammstein - Moskau |
| 19:26.47 | nullpuppy | good song |
| 19:31.43 | Sophie197 | I'm so full of spagetti and meatballs it's like a sick joke. |
| 19:32.41 | Sophie197 | especially for the starving kids in Africa, I'd wager. |
| 19:32.48 | Cae | lol |
| 19:34.49 | file[laptop] | Sophie197: you're silly |
| 19:35.57 | Sophie197 | file[laptop]: who you calling silly? |
| 19:36.06 | file[laptop] | Sophie197: you obviously |
| 19:36.08 | Sophie197 | last I checked you were a silly bitch. |
| 19:36.21 | file[laptop] | that's like calling the kettle black! |
| 19:37.07 | Sophie197 | gah! You got me there. |
| 19:37.51 | Veight | yeah its odd being alone in someone elses house |
| 19:38.37 | file[laptop] | Veight: where are you? |
| 19:38.50 | Veight | kergoth's place |
| 19:38.59 | file[laptop] | go steal stuff! |
| 19:39.09 | Veight | i did i stole soda and cereal :P |
| 19:39.15 | file[laptop] | ooh |
| 19:46.54 | scanlime | wow |
| 19:47.03 | scanlime | vmware's full screen mode any synergy work perfectly together |
| 19:47.08 | scanlime | s/any/and/ |
| 19:47.15 | nullpuppy | cool :) |
| 19:47.46 | nullpuppy | hmm, i should install samba on gremlin |
| 19:48.55 | nullpuppy | howdy kergoth |
| 19:50.11 | nullpuppy | careful, you do that and it may start actually working right |
| 19:50.38 | scanlime | sweet |
| 19:50.45 | scanlime | gchub works great inside vmware :) |
| 19:50.49 | nullpuppy | heeh |
| 19:50.57 | scanlime | well, a little slow.. but I think that's video performance rather than USB at this point |
| 19:51.03 | nullpuppy | cool |
| 19:52.15 | scanlime | wow, ubuntu's kernel includes uinput |
| 19:52.29 | nullpuppy | oooh, another virtualization seminar |
| 19:52.50 | nullpuppy | god damn evo |
| 19:54.32 | nullpuppy | awww, they won't be up here |
| 19:54.38 | scanlime | haha |
| 19:54.38 | scanlime | this works |
| 19:55.05 | scanlime | gc controller -> gchub -> windows box -> ubuntu VM -> inputpipe -> LAN -> linux box -> SDL |
| 19:55.09 | nullpuppy | hrm.. i *could* go to portland.. but.. no.. that'd suck |
| 19:55.15 | nullpuppy | damn, oh well |
| 19:55.28 | nullpuppy | scanlime: oh dear lord |
| 19:55.31 | nullpuppy | you're fscking nuts man ;) |
| 19:55.44 | Cae | lol |
| 19:55.54 | scanlime | it's a little laggy.. but not as much as I'd expected |
| 19:55.58 | Cae | that's..beautifully vile |
| 19:57.49 | scanlime | it looks like vmware's giving me a rather sucky interrupt polling rate though |
| 19:58.20 | scanlime | its usb performance really isn't good for interactive devices.. it likes big streams from things like disks and webcams |
| 19:59.10 | nullpuppy | hehe |
| 20:01.34 | nullpuppy | damnit, stupid firefox.. save iso's .. don't fscking open em |
| 20:01.50 | scanlime | slow day... |
| 20:01.52 | Cae | hehe |
| 20:05.24 | scanlime | guh |
| 20:05.38 | scanlime | there are so many places in the windows USB code where we have to wait a while to let some driver 'settle' |
| 20:05.47 | scanlime | no wonder windows hotplug is so slow |
| 20:06.32 | nullpuppy | yeah |
| 20:07.34 | scanlime | hrm |
| 20:07.52 | scanlime | #define POLL_PERIOD_IN_MSECS 1001 // poll every 1 second |
| 20:08.04 | scanlime | a leap millisecond? |
| 20:08.07 | scanlime | baker's second? |
| 20:08.10 | scanlime | what's this for... |
| 20:08.27 | nullpuppy | haha |
| 20:10.23 | CIA-11 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10bzflag/ (include/bzfsAPI.h src/bzfs/bzfsAPI.cxx): |
| 20:10.23 | CIA-11 | BZFlag: new functions to check bzdb vars, there permisions |
| 20:10.23 | CIA-11 | BZFlag: set the perms and stuff for vars when they are set to allow new vars to be added. |
| 20:11.46 | scanlime | it's like a big race condition with a driver thrown in somewhere |
| 20:15.17 | CIA-11 | spacegrant: 03dkuester * r1633 10mck/PyMCK/Hardware/Simulator/RandomWaveform.py: better simulating |
| 20:15.37 | nullpuppy | hrm.. probably a good idea to update world before i go and install samba.. 77 packages on my epia.. woo |
| 20:15.43 | nullpuppy | this is gonna take a while ;) |
| 20:15.53 | scanlime | lurgy|work: how's ye olde space grant holding up? I haven't seen any more panicked emails from Andrew since last night |
| 20:16.08 | lurgy|work | apparently the whole satellite decided to start working again for some reason |
| 20:16.11 | lurgy|work | hurray for the pdcu :P |
| 20:16.14 | scanlime | um.. yeah |
| 20:16.30 | scanlime | based on my debugging talk with him last night, it was quite clear to me that the power microcontroller was either dead or not receiving power |
| 20:16.41 | scanlime | so there's probably still a bad wire or 20 in there... |
| 20:17.16 | lurgy|work | yyyep |
| 20:17.35 | scanlime | heh |
| 20:17.37 | scanlime | yeah |
| 20:17.50 | scanlime | if someone around there is bored they could redesign and rebuild the PDCU |
| 20:17.58 | scanlime | it's really not as complex as it looks |
| 20:18.04 | numist | pdcu? |
| 20:18.20 | scanlime | numist: it's leet-speek for "power thingie" |
| 20:18.39 | lurgy|work | :) |
| 20:18.42 | numist | ah, hardware... Id have to learn it first, but I suppose I have to get my feet wet sometime |
| 20:19.04 | numist | luckily, I suck less now than I did then |
| 20:19.11 | scanlime | numist: Power Distribution and Control Unit.. basically a pile of DC/DC converters and power switches, with a microcontroller to manage it |
| 20:19.24 | numist | sweet |
| 20:19.28 | scanlime | not really |
| 20:19.32 | numist | well, yeah |
| 20:19.36 | numist | sounds inefficient |
| 20:19.40 | scanlime | eh |
| 20:19.44 | scanlime | the idea is good |
| 20:19.51 | scanlime | the implementation is the worst piece of engineering I've ever seen |
| 20:20.00 | numist | haha |
| 20:20.14 | numist | yeah, a pile of dc/dc converters doesnt sound like the way to do it |
| 20:20.16 | scanlime | mostly it's a bunch of off-the-shelf components glued together without any real documentation, and with lots of after-the-fact reqork |
| 20:20.19 | scanlime | eh |
| 20:20.25 | scanlime | how else would you convert power efficiently? |
| 20:20.38 | numist | but, I know jack about hardware, really |
| 20:20.47 | scanlime | um.. yeah |
| 20:20.51 | lurgy|work | hehe |
| 20:20.55 | numist | yeah.. no |
| 20:20.57 | numist | oh well |
| 20:21.01 | scanlime | I'll let you invent the DC-DC transformer.. in the mean time us scientists will keep using boost/buck converters |
| 20:21.24 | numist | fair enough. I warned you I didnt know hardware :P |
| 20:22.05 | scanlime | mostly it's just a really messy design |
| 20:22.11 | scanlime | needs to be simplified, built on a single PCB |
| 20:22.20 | scanlime | and they could use modern DC-DC converters that are more efficient |
| 20:22.51 | scanlime | the microcontroller could also be redone using a subset of the hardware and software I developed for the new CD |
| 20:23.09 | numist | heh |
| 20:23.12 | scanlime | all the old 8051 boards could be made way simpler using modern hardware and software |
| 20:23.26 | numist | how old is the project itself? |
| 20:23.33 | scanlime | 8 years or so |
| 20:23.36 | scanlime | I thnk |
| 20:23.37 | numist | 0_o |
| 20:23.55 | scanlime | huh? |
| 20:23.56 | numist | it was in the 'newest projects' category even, I think |
| 20:24.08 | numist | sec |
| 20:24.51 | numist | oh no, never mind, Im a dumbass |
| 20:25.56 | CIA-11 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10bzflag/src/bzfs/bzfsAPI.cxx: make it work on leeeenox |
| 20:27.02 | scanlime | I definitely need to go to their next concert in SF.. I think that's in late november |
| 20:29.11 | hardwire | I don't care. |
| 20:29.26 | scanlime | ok |
| 20:29.56 | *** join/#tacobeam Samy (n=samy@ip24-250-22-152.ri.ri.cox.net) |
| 20:30.15 | numist | hehe |
| 20:30.18 | Cae | afternoon :) |
| 20:30.22 | numist | oi there Cae |
| 20:30.31 | Cae | oi :) |
| 20:30.42 | numist | yay state machines :) |
| 20:30.45 | Samy | Hi |
| 20:30.48 | Samy | numist, haha |
| 20:30.48 | Cae | lol |
| 20:30.52 | Samy | I was just going to talk about that. |
| 20:30.57 | numist | nice! |
| 20:30.59 | Samy | There's a chance I'll be working on something similar to fyre2. |
| 20:31.04 | Cae | I actually kinda like state machines.. |
| 20:31.07 | Samy | but like, pipelines going into a flow chart |
| 20:31.16 | numist | theyre a lot better than trying to do the same thing without a state machine :P |
| 20:33.53 | CIA-11 | spacegrant: 03dkuester * r1634 10mck/ (5 files in 3 dirs): more cruft, hurray |
| 20:35.25 | scanlime | heh |
| 20:35.41 | scanlime | not using Observable.Value to implement waveform generators yet? |
| 20:37.08 | Cae | yay, cruft! go lurgy|work! |
| 20:37.40 | kergoth | the crt i'm using at work has burnin :P |
| 20:37.52 | scanlime | lurgy|work: you still have that "Waveform code" email I sent you and Alex on July 14? |
| 20:38.00 | Cae | kergoth: creepy |
| 20:38.13 | scanlime | mine has burnin too :( |
| 20:38.39 | Cae | this one has a few smudges that can't be removed (screen damage) |
| 20:38.39 | scanlime | big yellowish-tinted rectangle in the middle of the screen |
| 20:39.11 | Cae | but no burnin |
| 20:39.21 | numist | login screen? |
| 20:39.33 | CIA-11 | spacegrant: 03dkuester * r1635 10mck/ (2 files in 2 dirs): tomorrow Alex gets to spend some quality time with excel and simulator initializers, he'll be thrilled. and then i found twenty dollars. |
| 20:39.35 | kergoth | scanlime: :( |
| 20:39.40 | kergoth | i can read mine |
| 20:39.45 | scanlime | numist: too big for that |
| 20:39.45 | kergoth | its from an installer cd's menu |
| 20:39.53 | kergoth | do i want windows 95 with visual studio, or..? |
| 20:39.54 | kergoth | :P |
| 20:40.04 | numist | you know what it was? |
| 20:40.41 | lurgy|work | scanlime: we have some waveform code |
| 20:40.48 | lurgy|work | scanlime: it's not great but it works for now ;) |
| 20:40.55 | lurgy|work | i don't think it's his though |
| 20:41.12 | lurgy|work | it's something that one of James' monkeys did late last semester |
| 20:41.20 | scanlime | lurgy|work: yes... my point is that I sent you and alex an email a while ago with a much better way to do the waveforms |
| 20:41.24 | scanlime | it even had a lot of code in it |
| 20:41.29 | lurgy|work | scanlime: i know |
| 20:41.32 | scanlime | k |
| 20:41.41 | pagefault | oh yay |
| 20:41.42 | pagefault | vmware spam |
| 20:41.50 | nullpuppy | yay |
| 20:42.07 | pagefault | virtualization seminar |
| 20:42.11 | pagefault | sounds like a wild party to me |
| 20:42.24 | lurgy|work | scanlime: :) |
| 20:42.43 | lurgy|work | scanlime: it will get in there but it's not a huge priority atm |
| 20:42.48 | scanlime | nod |
| 20:43.06 | scanlime | I just don't understand why people write unmaintainable code when it can be easier to just do it right |
| 20:43.33 | scanlime | and nobody ever wrote unit tests except me when I was working thee |
| 20:43.36 | scanlime | s/thee/there/ |
| 20:43.46 | pagefault | I love this |
| 20:44.05 | pagefault | me and a bunch of friends are using our gmail accounts as a long message thread |
| 20:44.18 | pagefault | we are going to try to see if we can fill it by hitting reply each time |
| 20:44.26 | pagefault | but it cuts off at 150 messages and makes another thread |
| 20:46.41 | kergoth | mm, policy routing is neat |
| 20:46.49 | Veight | lol hey |
| 20:47.12 | kergoth | Veight: i'm having trouble staying awake. this getting up early thing is evil |
| 20:47.37 | Veight | heh |
| 20:47.44 | Cae | kergoth: yeah..it is.. |
| 20:47.54 | Cae | (the getting up early bit) |
| 20:53.32 | CIA-11 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10bzflag/tools/modeltool/Q3BSP.cxx: take out the teselator since bzfs will do it now |
| 20:56.40 | Veight | i...am....so....BORED! |
| 20:57.29 | nullpuppy | there we go, fresh install, fully updated, etc.. time to back it up so i can break it ;) |
| 20:57.55 | Cae | LOL |
| 20:58.00 | Cae | sounds like...me |
| 20:58.04 | nullpuppy | hehe |
| 20:59.00 | Cae | okay, time to go home. |
| 20:59.07 | nullpuppy | yay home |
| 20:59.26 | *** part/#tacobeam Cae (n=cae@pixpat.austin.ibm.com) |
| 21:15.36 | scanlime | used to be different, now you're the same |
| 21:15.38 | scanlime | yawn as your plane goes down in flames |
| 21:23.43 | nullpuppy | oh my fscking god |
| 21:23.46 | nullpuppy | bioware rules |
| 21:24.00 | gonkulator | Tokyo |
| 21:24.05 | nullpuppy | http://www.vgcats.com/comics/?strip_id=47 |
| 21:24.18 | nullpuppy | it actually does say that.. |
| 21:24.39 | file | this cheese looks too orange |
| 21:25.05 | file | very true |
| 21:25.30 | gonkulator | http://jurpa.us/images/file.jpg |
| 21:25.33 | gonkulator | too orange |
| 21:26.46 | ChipX86 | picnic over |
| 21:26.51 | ChipX86 | keyboar hard to tpye on |
| 21:27.42 | ChipX86 | *shrug* it'll be fixe din a few days |
| 21:30.06 | file | ooh something dealing with Apple Computer theft |
| 21:30.16 | file | I wonder if the judge is going to be like, "that couldn't possibly be worth $5000" |
| 21:31.10 | nullpuppy | file: eh? |
| 21:35.30 | file | I'm watching The People's Court |
| 21:35.38 | nullpuppy | ahh |
| 21:35.46 | ChipX86 | I love that show |
| 21:36.07 | lurgy|work | hmm |
| 21:36.08 | lurgy|work | time to go |
| 21:40.16 | Veight | is proclaimination a word? |
| 21:44.10 | scanlime | food... |
| 21:44.57 | file | is good? |
| 21:45.31 | Veight | yes! |
| 21:45.34 | Veight | so is soda |
| 21:45.39 | ChipX86 | no |
| 21:45.39 | Veight | and wow that i cant play :( |
| 21:45.42 | ChipX86 | soda is BAD |
| 21:45.57 | Veight | aw, whats wrong with soda? |
| 21:46.04 | ChipX86 | it makes kes stick. |
| 21:46.32 | Veight | i see. |
| 21:47.39 | nullpuppy | Veight: why can't you play wow? |
| 21:48.13 | file[laptop] | Veight is stealing stuff from kergoth's house! |
| 21:48.15 | Veight | cause my bro has a negative amount of money in his bank when blizzard tried to pay the 30 bux for us both it didnt go threw |
| 21:48.37 | Veight | so we cant get on :( |
| 21:48.48 | nullpuppy | oooh, so he's paying for your account too |
| 21:48.58 | nullpuppy | its *your* fault he's broke! |
| 21:48.58 | nullpuppy | :) |
| 21:49.03 | file[laptop] | let's blame Veight |
| 21:49.13 | nullpuppy | thats what i was thinking |
| 21:49.18 | Veight | actualy no |
| 21:49.23 | Veight | im paying him the 15 a month |
| 21:49.23 | Veight | hehe |
| 21:49.24 | ChipX86 | Veight doubled kergoth's broekenisity |
| 21:49.34 | ChipX86 | Veight: you should pa y 30, be a good brohter |
| 21:50.19 | nullpuppy | yeah! |
| 21:50.21 | Veight | i was gonna give him 70 to get us back online but im not getting my check today :( |
| 21:50.30 | nullpuppy | hmm.. wtf.. theres a fedex truck in my driveway |
| 21:50.36 | scanlime | our card readers need to be just a little longer-range so I don't have to take my wallet out of my pants |
| 21:50.50 | ChipX86 | scanlime: yep |
| 21:50.54 | ChipX86 | you can jump |
| 21:51.06 | scanlime | :) |
| 21:51.12 | ChipX86 | I've watched regis do that |
| 21:51.21 | scanlime | or I just need to invent a new wallet that you wear about ribcage-high |
| 21:51.29 | ChipX86 | necklace wallet |
| 21:51.33 | scanlime | hehe |
| 21:51.36 | Veight | sigh no wow makes the day go by sooo slowly |
| 21:51.43 | ChipX86 | Veight: write code |
| 21:51.59 | scanlime | see, ID badges are overrated.. vmware needs to give us ID shirts or something |
| 21:52.09 | Veight | hah id probably break more things then fixing |
| 21:52.26 | ChipX86 | scanlime: :) |
| 21:52.36 | file[laptop] | nullpuppy: Fed...ex! |
| 21:52.37 | ChipX86 | ah-HA |
| 21:55.40 | scanlime | mmm |
| 21:55.41 | darth_mall | well that went rather well |
| 21:55.41 | scanlime | yay free lunch... |
| 21:55.46 | scanlime | cinnamon pop tarts and V8 |
| 21:57.13 | scanlime | in the future, your driver's license will be built in to your underwear |
| 21:57.22 | file[laptop] | ooh nifty idea |
| 21:57.28 | nullpuppy | rfid! |
| 21:57.40 | nullpuppy | implanted in your forhead |
| 21:57.40 | ChipX86 | "Sir, please show me your drivers license." "Are you coming on to me officer?" |
| 21:57.46 | nullpuppy | lol |
| 21:57.47 | scanlime | :) |
| 21:57.55 | scanlime | or a magnetic stripe along the waistband... |
| 21:58.03 | scanlime | "put on this belt, I need to read your card number" |
| 21:58.36 | ChipX86 | yay, IRCing from christian-lx. Working keyboard and everything. |
| 21:58.45 | scanlime | yay |
| 21:58.57 | scanlime | I was disappointed by the naming convention here :( |
| 21:59.12 | ChipX86 | :( |
| 21:59.28 | ChipX86 | I store my code and VMs on /mnt/snorkle |
| 21:59.34 | scanlime | hehe |
| 22:01.53 | ChipX86 | at least we have awesome make flags |
| 22:02.23 | ChipX86 | OFFSET_CHECKERS_ARE_FOR_THE_WEAK, I_LOVE_BROKEN_COMPILERS,CHECKSUMS_ARE_FOR_THE_WEAK |
| 22:02.31 | scanlime | hehe |
| 22:03.42 | ChipX86 | yay HIM - Buried Alive By Love |
| 22:03.48 | nullpuppy | haha |
| 22:04.29 | ChipX86 | I love the lyrics in this song |
| 22:04.49 | ChipX86 | o/~ TO die is to know that you're alive, and my river of blood won't run dry. I never wanted to lose you, no, but a cold heart is a dead heart and it feels like I've been buried alive by love. o/~ |
| 22:05.35 | scanlime | I don't want you to touch me. Don't try to help, you'll only make it worse. Don't tell me it will be ok, nothing's going to be ok. Anyway, it doesn't matter. I'm going to turn my TV on 'cuz everything looks beautiful on video. |
| 22:05.48 | ChipX86 | what song is that? |
| 22:06.00 | scanlime | The Epoxies - Everything looks beautiful on video |
| 22:06.04 | ChipX86 | neat |
| 22:06.31 | ChipX86 | I do! |
| 22:09.48 | ChipX86 | awesome. What did I break. |
| 22:11.20 | scanlime | There's radiation in my TV set. I guess I know that but it hasn't got me yet. |
| 22:13.11 | darth_mall | hrm |
| 22:13.26 | darth_mall | when I go to clean out my foodstuffs tonight I should bring my laptop and get a bunch of the stuff off of wasabi that I want |
| 22:13.41 | darth_mall | erm |
| 22:13.43 | darth_mall | not wasabi |
| 22:13.44 | darth_mall | fembot |
| 22:15.11 | ChipX86 | :( |
| 22:15.42 | darth_mall | it was bound to happne |
| 22:19.09 | scanlime | yeah... |
| 22:19.10 | ChipX86 | gah |
| 22:19.16 | ChipX86 | Glib::Object doesn't have signal_notify() |
| 22:20.07 | darth_mall | dammit |
| 22:20.21 | darth_mall | I lost the e-mail of this chump from the cultural events board that I need to e-mail |
| 22:20.38 | nullpuppy | hrm, i should get ready for work :/ |
| 22:21.29 | scanlime | evening shift? |
| 22:22.44 | CIA-11 | g2bridge: 03evan * r604 10documents/suli/ (figures.tex g2-menu.png menu-bw.png): Get a better screenshot of the menu bar in G2. |
| 22:23.07 | nullpuppy | pretty much, short day today |
| 22:27.58 | kergoth | yay, home |
| 22:28.09 | file[laptop] | welcome home! |
| 22:28.13 | ChipX86 | thanks |
| 22:28.13 | kergoth | hey |
| 22:28.15 | ChipX86 | oh not me |
| 22:28.19 | kergoth | hehe |
| 22:28.20 | Sophie197 | ok so I was just waiting for my birth control prescription to be filled at Walgreens. |
| 22:28.40 | Sophie197 | and after looking at all their garbage and listening to their crappy music |
| 22:28.56 | Sophie197 | I have a sense of utter pointlessness. |
| 22:29.14 | ChipX86 | you should listen to something good |
| 22:29.15 | ChipX86 | like HIM |
| 22:29.21 | kergoth | hmm.. |
| 22:29.22 | kergoth | something good |
| 22:29.36 | ChipX86 | oohh |
| 22:29.38 | ChipX86 | also good |
| 22:29.42 | Sophie197 | I'm sorry, did you say NIN? |
| 22:29.44 | ChipX86 | but I've listened to the mtoo much |
| 22:29.47 | ChipX86 | Sophie197: HIM |
| 22:29.52 | Sophie197 | HIM? |
| 22:29.54 | ChipX86 | HIM. |
| 22:30.01 | Sophie197 | damn, I need a new monitor, |
| 22:30.03 | scanlime | oh, damnit |
| 22:30.08 | scanlime | my ubuntu VM was running 3D screensavers again |
| 22:30.13 | ChipX86 | scanlime: turn those off :) |
| 22:30.14 | scanlime | no wonder my machine was going so slow |
| 22:30.24 | scanlime | ChipX86: I did on my linux box :P |
| 22:30.47 | scanlime | I don't usually leave the VMs running under windows long enough that it actually matters |
| 22:31.03 | ChipX86 | nod |
| 22:31.10 | ChipX86 | I almost never run VMs at work |
| 22:31.25 | darth_mall | alright |
| 22:31.32 | darth_mall | time for me to head home and continue unpacking |
| 22:33.23 | kergoth | 17:30 < kergoth> someone let a windows installer cd burn in |
| 22:33.26 | ChipX86 | why must this hate me so |
| 22:33.26 | kergoth | 17:30 < pb_> whoa |
| 22:33.26 | kergoth | 17:30 < pb_> well, windows sure does take a long time to install, but still |
| 22:33.28 | kergoth | hehe |
| 22:33.38 | gonkulator | w00t, it went great :) |
| 22:33.58 | Sophie197 | they made Iron & Wine into a ringtone :( |
| 22:34.05 | kergoth | thats just not right |
| 22:34.20 | nullpuppy | time to head to work.. laters |
| 22:34.23 | kergoth | later |
| 22:34.37 | Sophie197 | I hate america. |
| 22:34.51 | ChipX86 | :( even south america? |
| 22:35.15 | Samy | What's the paper about gonkulator? |
| 22:35.41 | Sophie197 | maybe not south america |
| 22:35.47 | gonkulator | Samy: http://jurpa.us/papers/AAS05-426.pdf |
| 22:36.00 | Sophie197 | but the south american government, sure. |
| 22:36.09 | Sophie197 | governments. |
| 22:36.13 | *** join/#tacobeam lurgy (n=lurgyman@boulder.navi.cx) |
| 22:36.22 | gonkulator | its about how a simplified model effectively demonstrated orbital trajectories about the Lagrange points L1 and L2 |
| 22:36.42 | ChipX86 | I don't know what that means :( |
| 22:37.02 | gonkulator | the paper is pretty easy to follow |
| 22:37.10 | gonkulator | lots of pictures (which really help) |
| 22:37.13 | ChipX86 | oohh, it's closer to working |
| 22:37.37 | ChipX86 | gonkulator: i'll try to read it in a bit. I'm kind of in a strangling match with gnomecanvas. We're both losing |
| 22:38.20 | gonkulator | ChipX86: good luck with that |
| 22:38.23 | Samy | ChipX86, so, who's left to win? |
| 22:38.25 | Samy | cha-CHING! |
| 22:38.27 | Samy | hrhrhr |
| 22:39.16 | KSoze | and the author said it was cool that the planet and moon looked the same size from there |
| 22:39.17 | pagefault | time to get some brew |
| 22:39.18 | Sophie197 | hey KSoze, d'you wanna come home? |
| 22:39.25 | KSoze | Sophie197: can't :( |
| 22:39.39 | gonkulator | KSoze: the gravity felt from each body is the same at L1 |
| 22:39.40 | pagefault | i'm going to find the nicest looking bottle I can find and drink it |
| 22:39.54 | gonkulator | pagefault: sip the vodka, don't gulp it |
| 22:39.59 | Sophie197 | k |
| 22:40.06 | pagefault | gonkulator, thats not as fun :) |
| 22:40.07 | pagefault | j/k |
| 22:40.14 | gonkulator | :) |
| 22:40.32 | KSoze | gonkulator: yeah, and he said the apparent size was the same. but it didn't work out if you assume the same density for each, and assume mass is proportional to ^3 of radius... |
| 22:40.38 | pagefault | gonkulator, nah I don't chug hard liquor |
| 22:40.41 | pagefault | thats silly |
| 22:41.10 | pagefault | if you shell out for it might as well enjoy it |
| 22:41.11 | KSoze | so maybe since jupiter is mostly a gas, the average density changes as a function of total mass, which complicates mass vs. diameter... |
| 22:41.55 | Sophie197 | kergoth: what's snake river conspiracy sound like? |
| 22:41.59 | ChipX86 | awesome |
| 22:42.11 | gonkulator | yeah, density would mess up the angular size as viewed from L1 |
| 22:42.20 | KSoze | if you have a line of text that's a filename, and want to grab everything after the path, but before the final '.', what's the easiest way to do that? |
| 22:42.21 | Sophie197 | I mean what is it similar to? |
| 22:42.29 | ChipX86 | not sure |
| 22:43.08 | Sophie197 | KSoze: are you still working on those silly shell scripts? |
| 22:43.38 | KSoze | Sophie197: different silly shell scripts, but yeah, same idea :) |
| 22:43.45 | pagefault | I hide in my shell |
| 22:44.42 | gonkulator | pagefault: you turtle |
| 22:44.43 | Sophie197 | I keep producing all this saliva. Then I have to swallow it. bleh. |
| 22:46.33 | file | why must 64-bit XP be so incredibly slow for me |
| 22:46.41 | Samy | Who's Jen? |
| 22:46.47 | gonkulator | Samy: zak |
| 22:46.48 | Samy | That is, her IRC nickname. |
| 22:46.51 | Samy | ahhh |
| 22:46.52 | Samy | yeah |
| 22:46.55 | Samy | She hasn't been online :( |
| 22:47.00 | gonkulator | nope |
| 22:47.05 | Samy | Her homophobia post is cool. |
| 22:47.22 | Samy | http://www.livejournal.com/users/caelumpacis/6615.html |
| 22:47.40 | KSoze | you wanna talk about bleh, my shell script converts from path-and-filename-with.cpp-or.c to filename-without-path-and-with.o, in 4 lines |
| 22:47.42 | pagefault | that it |
| 22:47.51 | pagefault | I am going to figure out some way to find my wallret |
| 22:47.53 | pagefault | err wallet |
| 22:47.57 | pagefault | I need an RF ID or something on it |
| 22:48.01 | pagefault | I keep losing it |
| 22:48.16 | ChipX86 | Samy: yeah |
| 22:48.21 | KSoze | and always wear the same pair of pants |
| 22:48.27 | file | you also need to figure out a way so you know if you lock your car or not |
| 22:48.27 | ChipX86 | I'm going to stick irc names on the planet at some point |
| 22:50.46 | Sophie197 | KSoze: did you have any dinner ideas? |
| 22:54.30 | file | sweet rate limiting worked |
| 22:54.53 | scanlime | grr... caps locks got out of sync |
| 22:55.13 | ChipX86 | working from home? |
| 22:55.16 | ChipX86 | and VNC being a pain? |
| 22:55.20 | scanlime | NO |
| 22:55.22 | scanlime | er |
| 22:55.22 | scanlime | no |
| 22:55.32 | ChipX86 | scanline's yelling at me :( |
| 22:55.36 | scanlime | synergy dropped a caps lock |
| 22:55.38 | file | ChipX86: that makes me sad too |
| 22:55.39 | scanlime | apparently |
| 22:55.58 | scanlime | so if caps lock is off on linux, it's on in windows |
| 22:56.00 | scanlime | and vice versa |
| 22:56.03 | KSoze | Sophie[nap]: i'm still full from lunch. I had the all-you-can-eat Mucho Lunch at El Chico |
| 22:56.04 | ChipX86 | ugh I hate that |
| 22:56.44 | scanlime | at least I can still physically plug the keyboard in via the KVM and hit caps lock |
| 22:56.57 | KSoze | USB, or PS2? |
| 22:57.23 | scanlime | KSoze: PS2.. but it really doesn't matter, this was a synergy problem not a hardware problem |
| 22:57.31 | ChipX86 | scanlime: want to borrow a keyboard? |
| 22:57.37 | ChipX86 | I have one just sitting in a box |
| 22:57.40 | scanlime | no, I really don't need one |
| 22:57.49 | ChipX86 | I've never had a problem with it |
| 22:58.12 | scanlime | there's no hardware reason not to hotswap PS/2.. old computers though wouldn't detect a mouse unless it was present at boot |
| 22:58.23 | KSoze | the spec doesn't technically specify that it |
| 22:58.35 | KSoze | 's designed to be hotswappable |
| 22:58.45 | Samy | haha |
| 22:58.46 | ChipX86 | it doesn't specify that things will die |
| 22:58.47 | Samy | What the hell |
| 22:58.51 | Samy | "100% satanist" |
| 22:58.53 | Samy | That's me :/ |
| 22:58.54 | KSoze | and supposedly on some motherboards it destroys them |
| 22:58.54 | scanlime | why wouldn't it be hotswappable? |
| 22:58.54 | ChipX86 | Samy: :( |
| 22:59.00 | CIA-11 | numi-misc: 03numist * r113 10phplib/ (5 files): bugfix to explode_multi, added an extremely useful debug controller |
| 22:59.01 | ChipX86 | I'm like 50% satanist |
| 22:59.05 | Samy | 92% athiest. |
| 22:59.06 | ChipX86 | because I don't pray every day and stuff |
| 22:59.08 | scanlime | it's just a couple open-collector dta lines |
| 22:59.10 | ChipX86 | stupid quiz |
| 22:59.11 | Samy | 83% Islam |
| 22:59.22 | Samy | ChipX86, it's actually pretty accurate :P |
| 22:59.29 | ChipX86 | you're a satanist? |
| 22:59.31 | Samy | ChipX86, Except for the satanist bit. |
| 22:59.33 | ChipX86 | oh |
| 22:59.34 | Samy | ChipX86, I am athiest. |
| 22:59.41 | Samy | ChipX86, coming from a Muslim background. |
| 22:59.42 | ChipX86 | the satanist part is the weird thing |
| 22:59.47 | Samy | atheism -> Islam -> Paganism |
| 22:59.48 | Samy | haha |
| 22:59.51 | ChipX86 | !christian == satanist |
| 22:59.54 | numist | lol |
| 22:59.55 | KSoze | scanlime: there is also 5v power, I think |
| 22:59.56 | Samy | ChipX86, haha |
| 23:00.15 | Samy | gonkulator, hey. |
| 23:00.16 | KSoze | although i don't know if/why that would be problematic |
| 23:00.19 | Samy | gonkulator, why don't you take the quiz? |
| 23:00.21 | scanlime | KSoze: yes.. so? the only reason things wouldn't be hotswappable are power supply sequencing issues, but the data in PS/2 is pretty high impedance |
| 23:00.30 | KSoze | perhaps if the 5v line connects before the ground line? |
| 23:00.36 | ChipX86 | Samy: that quiz would still call gonkulator a satanist |
| 23:00.40 | ChipX86 | it just hates everybody |
| 23:00.57 | ChipX86 | I'm apparently a satanist budhist |
| 23:01.02 | scanlime | KSoze: you could end up with a latchup condition if your keyboard is built really stupid |
| 23:01.04 | ChipX86 | I spelled that wrong. |
| 23:01.33 | scanlime | KSoze: I find it really hard to imagine a hardware-related PS/2 hotplug problem though. |
| 23:01.38 | ChipX86 | the things that KSoze has heard are probably what I've heard too.. you plug it in and it'll fry the motherboard |
| 23:01.44 | Samy | ChipX86, we should actually read. |
| 23:01.46 | ChipX86 | I've never, ever seen it happen |
| 23:01.51 | Samy | I guess I'm pretty much a satanist. |
| 23:01.51 | KSoze | ChipX86: yep, that's what I've heard |
| 23:01.53 | scanlime | you'd never fry the motherboard |
| 23:01.58 | scanlime | worst case you latch up the keyboard itself |
| 23:02.08 | Samy | ChipX86, "To be a Satanist, you don’t actually have to believe in Satan. Satanism generally focuses upon the spiritual advancement of the self, rather than upon submission to a deity or a set of moral codes. " |
| 23:02.11 | Samy | ChipX86, that is definately me. |
| 23:02.12 | ChipX86 | mythbusters should do a whoel show on it! |
| 23:02.29 | scanlime | hehe |
| 23:02.43 | ChipX86 | then they can find ways to blow up motherboards by plugging things like power lines into it |
| 23:02.56 | scanlime | haha |
| 23:02.59 | KSoze | or food and/or beverages |
| 23:03.45 | *** join/#tacobeam darkstar62 (n=darkstar@boulder.navi.cx) |
| 23:04.48 | file[laptop] | the matrox has me |
| 23:05.04 | ChipX86 | matrox bad |
| 23:05.56 | file[laptop] | ah, big brother on at 9 |
| 23:06.36 | file[laptop] | ooh looksee Stargate |
| 23:07.53 | gonkulator | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:08.18 | slimspace | indeed, and a gonkulator |
| 23:08.29 | file[laptop] | gonkulator gonkulating? |
| 23:08.48 | scanlime | so hard to concentrate on code today.. |
| 23:08.53 | scanlime | maybe I want coffee |
| 23:09.11 | gonkulator | file[laptop]: I'm in the process of falling in love with fuzzy logic |
| 23:09.39 | file[laptop] | ooh fuzzy |
| 23:09.45 | gonkulator | fuzzy logic and analog computing |
| 23:10.25 | gonkulator | though, I don't know enough about analog stuff to fall in love with that yet |
| 23:16.31 | gonkulator | and on that note, its time to move to the next conference |
| 23:16.34 | gonkulator | er, talk |
| 23:16.35 | file[laptop] | yay |
| 23:17.12 | file[laptop] | slimspace: jobs are good |
| 23:17.29 | slimspace | yup |
| 23:17.39 | slimspace | Ball hired me on part-time until I graduate |
| 23:17.43 | file[laptop] | unless... they're angry jobs! |
| 23:19.36 | gonkulator | slimspace: congrats :) |
| 23:19.46 | gonkulator | slimspace: now you can put money into that joint account faster :) |
| 23:20.43 | gonkulator | yay, next talk |
| 23:24.07 | KeyserSoze | how do you read a file (not from stdin) in bash? |
| 23:24.21 | gonkulator | cat? |
| 23:24.35 | KeyserSoze | yes, but I only want it one line at a time |
| 23:24.51 | scanlime | KeyserSoze: use parens and redirect the file into that subshell |
| 23:24.51 | gonkulator | oh, I dunno then |
| 23:24.54 | KeyserSoze | so i found examples that cat the whole file to a variable, and then do a for loop on the variable |
| 23:26.07 | scanlime | KeyserSoze: (read FOO; ...) < input.file |
| 23:26.30 | KeyserSoze | scanlime: thanks :), i just found stuff like that on the web and was trying to make sense of it |
| 23:27.25 | scanlime | might be better off with perl or python if you're getting that fancy though |
| 23:28.07 | ChipX86 | 5 - 5 = 20 |
| 23:28.24 | scanlime | http://flapjack.navi.cx/monitor/system/proc-day.gif |
| 23:28.30 | ChipX86 | I have proof of that here |
| 23:28.49 | scanlime | ChipX86: is it like my proof that 6*9=42? :) |
| 23:29.07 | ChipX86 | gnomecanvas set textX1 to 5 |
| 23:29.12 | ChipX86 | TEXT_PADDING is also 5 |
| 23:29.18 | ChipX86 | I moved a rectangle to textX1 - 5 |
| 23:29.22 | ChipX86 | now it's at 20 |
| 23:29.52 | kergoth | bleh |
| 23:32.30 | ChipX86 | OH |
| 23:32.35 | ChipX86 | move doesn't move to the location |
| 23:32.48 | KeyserSoze | bleh. what i'm trying to do is probably stupid, anyway... |
| 23:32.49 | ChipX86 | which is so silly and wrong |
| 23:33.16 | ChipX86 | I think... |
| 23:33.52 | KeyserSoze | i have like 2000 source files, all in c or c++. I need a makefile for about a half dozen different executables, that each probably use ~1000 or 1500 files |
| 23:34.34 | KeyserSoze | so i thought it'd be cool to use the gcc -MD option, to find all the header file dependencies. and then compile all the .c and .cpp files that correspond to those headers, and then link them with the main() file to make the exe |
| 23:34.47 | ChipX86 | or not.. |
| 23:34.53 | KeyserSoze | oh, and use gcc -MD on each of the cs and cpps i find, to set up dependencies for it, too |
| 23:35.43 | scanlime | you might try SCons, if your build environment can run python (what can't?) |
| 23:36.08 | scanlime | it can already do dependency analysis like that, and it's really easy to use |
| 23:36.27 | scanlime | also scriptable really easily, if you know even a little python |
| 23:37.02 | ChipX86 | ah-ha. That was it. |
| 23:37.30 | gonkulator | m00f |
| 23:37.47 | scanlime | gonkulator: bored? |
| 23:37.48 | KeyserSoze | the thing that's screwy, is that we have a common directory, and for specific aircraft, there are different directories with the same structure as common, and if a file is present there, it overrides the one in common |
| 23:38.00 | gonkulator | scanlime: yep, I just finished the last talk |
| 23:38.09 | gonkulator | this is really interesting stuff, but my brain is fulll |
| 23:38.20 | scanlime | KeyserSoze: yeah, stuff like that is why build systems are generally scriptable |
| 23:38.27 | KeyserSoze | excellent :) |
| 23:38.56 | scanlime | my recommendation is scons, but there are prolly lots of ways you could make that work without much pain |
| 23:39.11 | gonkulator | and its over |
| 23:39.14 | gonkulator | later everyone :) |
| 23:39.25 | KeyserSoze | if i was better at bash scripting, i could write the script i have in mind pretty easily. |
| 23:40.06 | darth_mall | hrm |
| 23:40.10 | ChipX86 | take THAT GnomeCanvas! |
| 23:42.02 | KeyserSoze | hmm. can't use scons to generate a makefile |
| 23:42.30 | scanlime | heh |
| 23:42.34 | scanlime | scons replaces make |
| 23:42.44 | scanlime | I don't think generating makefiles is a good idea |
| 23:42.51 | CIA-11 | numi-misc: 03numist * r114 10/trunk/ (61 files in 11 dirs): project rename, removed test scripts and deprecated bits |
| 23:42.52 | scanlime | if you use make, just write a smart makefile |
| 23:42.57 | KeyserSoze | no, it isn't, it's probably a nightmare |
| 23:43.39 | KeyserSoze | what's a smart makefile? |
| 23:44.01 | scanlime | have the makefile figure out the dependencies and the local override files and all that |
| 23:44.16 | scanlime | so you can 'make foo' and it pulls in foo.c plus everything it needs |
| 23:44.26 | KeyserSoze | that'd be nice |
| 23:44.41 | scanlime | it's possible, but definitely easier to do with scons |
| 23:44.43 | KeyserSoze | i can picture how to make a shell script to do that, but i'd be lost if i tried to do it all in make |
| 23:45.11 | scanlime | if you can do it in shell you can do it in make |
| 23:45.11 | KeyserSoze | unless if you mean you'd just have running the shell script be kicked off by make.... |
| 23:45.16 | scanlime | no |
| 23:45.42 | scanlime | use implicit rules, maybe have a rule that collects dependencies for a particular file... |
| 23:45.59 | scanlime | er, not implicit rules necessarily |
| 23:46.15 | scanlime | I forget what they're called |
| 23:46.20 | scanlime | the gnu make infopages know |
| 23:47.21 | file | time to further hack my cellphone, just becuz |
| 23:47.35 | KeyserSoze | the thing that make can't handle (or that i don't know how to do in make), is to automatically find all the .cpps to compile (and hence .o's to link), just based on having the file with main() in it, and all the source code (no libraries) |
| 23:48.17 | scanlime | er.. so you have a bunch of C source files but you don't know the list of resulting binaries? |
| 23:48.36 | scanlime | it's hard to tell just by looking which libraries a file needs |
| 23:48.42 | scanlime | unless you really mean which headers it includes |
| 23:48.49 | KeyserSoze | so we've got 2000 files to look through, but gcc -MD can already find all the headers we need, and there are no .c's or .cpp's without a corresponding header, so we can use the header dependancies to generate the list of .c's and .cpp's to be compiled and linked, for each executable |
| 23:49.21 | scanlime | k |
| 23:49.22 | KeyserSoze | there aren't really any libraries, just .h and .cpp |
| 23:51.07 | KeyserSoze | not having libraries is kind of a side effect of having to certify all the software with the FAA. gotta have all the source, and have it all in the same CM system, so it's not that bad... |
| 23:51.14 | scanlime | rofl @ tam's latest post on fun-list |
| 23:51.46 | ChipX86 | hah |
| 23:52.29 | KeyserSoze | what's amazing is that out of everyone i work with, i know more about linux, and bash scripting, and gcc and make, than anyone else |
| 23:52.38 | ChipX86 | chip smash! |
| 23:52.38 | KeyserSoze | if you can believe that |
| 23:53.07 | scanlime | KeyserSoze: it's not hard at all to believe, I understand the aerospace crowd well enough :) |
| 23:53.21 | ChipX86 | I can't believe how much time I'm spending fighting this canvas |
| 23:53.25 | ChipX86 | I could have written one in this time |
| 23:54.54 | scanlime | They're done with TV screens. They're using laser beams! You'll dream of microwaves tonight. |
| 23:56.07 | lurgy | it's about a killer robot driving instructor |
| 23:56.13 | lurgy | and his best friend is a talking pie |
| 23:58.18 | scanlime | bah |
| 23:58.38 | ChipX86 | heh |
| 23:59.03 | darth_mall | grr |
| 23:59.05 | darth_mall | so I can ping google, but I can bring it up in firefox |
| 23:59.11 | darth_mall | anyone have any ideas what might be causing that? |
