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| 00:20.03 | CIA-13 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10bzflag/ (7 files in 2 dirs): little split and cleanup in client main code, just to make it not all nasty phat. |
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| 00:24.35 | pf | ok |
| 00:24.37 | pf | don't play with router settings when your brother is in a dungeon |
| 00:31.28 | pagefault | haha |
| 00:31.31 | pagefault | I love eugine levy |
| 00:36.59 | pagefault | I need to hack my cell phone |
| 00:52.10 | kergoth | hmmmm |
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| 01:23.09 | kergoth | lol, yay american pie |
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| 01:28.40 | scanlime | gonkulator: how are you getting internet access these days? |
| 01:31.23 | numist | CIA update? |
| 01:31.27 | scanlime | no |
| 01:31.50 | numist | right then |
| 01:31.50 | scanlime | I rarely have to restart it for updates anyway |
| 01:32.01 | scanlime | and the bots are a separate daemon |
| 01:32.28 | scanlime | good for you |
| 01:32.38 | numist | having fun with vmware stuffs? |
| 01:33.23 | *** join/#tacobeam CIA-11 (N=CIA@flapjack.navi.cx) |
| 01:33.25 | scanlime | generally, yes... though at the moment I'm writing more C string munching code... |
| 01:34.02 | numist | :/ well, "motivational quote here that goes something like 'it\'s not all bad'" |
| 01:34.45 | purple_cow | gotta love strings in C |
| 01:34.46 | scanlime | oh, it isn't |
| 01:34.56 | scanlime | I'm kind of a masochist when it comes to C actually... |
| 01:35.54 | numist | C in general can be very masochistic |
| 01:37.38 | purple_cow | scanlime: do you at least get glib? :) |
| 01:37.39 | scanlime | but this isn't just any string parsing nonsense, it's string parsing nonsense that runs inside a virtual USB host controller ;) |
| 01:37.44 | scanlime | hah |
| 01:38.02 | scanlime | purple_cow: well, we do have a string library that has some glib-like features |
| 01:38.09 | scanlime | like improved variations on printf |
| 01:38.15 | scanlime | including some with dynamic allocation |
| 01:38.24 | scanlime | that doesn't help with what I'm doing now though |
| 01:43.26 | scanlime | not sure what's going on with CIA at the moment... |
| 01:47.25 | scanlime | blah |
| 01:47.32 | scanlime | looks like the same good ol' memory leak |
| 01:47.54 | purple_cow | :( |
| 01:48.03 | scanlime | I restart the http daemon and it should be fine |
| 01:48.23 | scanlime | I mean, it's a slow leak compared to the previous ones I've had |
| 01:48.34 | scanlime | still plenty annoying though |
| 01:48.49 | scanlime | it doesn't seem to be possible to use XML in python without leaking craptons of memory |
| 01:49.55 | scanlime | the bot server seems fine- I guess flapjack was just running so slow that it timed out on a couple networks |
| 01:57.23 | scanlime | fuck fuck fuck |
| 01:57.24 | scanlime | cia@flapjack cia $ cat /proc/io_status |
| 01:57.24 | scanlime | io_count=1358653685 io_rate=127 io_tokens=-75 token_refill=100 token_max=1000 |
| 01:57.40 | purple_cow | guh |
| 01:57.47 | scanlime | I need to make it clear to the linode monkeys that if they're going to kill the service I'm paying them for they should at least fucking email me |
| 02:01.00 | purple_cow | it seems like they always fix it when you yell at them |
| 02:01.19 | scanlime | uhhuh... |
| 02:01.37 | purple_cow | can't you just get them to just not mess with it? :P |
| 02:01.57 | scanlime | I've tried... |
| 02:04.45 | scanlime | yay working late today.. spent all morning at the DMV :P |
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| 02:18.21 | numist | yay DMV |
| 02:18.43 | numist | if you ever have the chance, just go to the one in gilroy. Even if you have to spend an hour to get there, Ive never seen a line longer than 25 people there. Evar |
| 02:18.57 | numist | compared to 6 hours in san jose that I lost once... bleh |
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| 02:22.20 | laodamas | or rather Post office of Universal Utility (also cashed checks, bill cashier, and sold DVDs) |
| 02:23.18 | laodamas | s/r P/r the P/ |
| 02:23.30 | laodamas | s/r P/r, the P/ |
| 02:23.47 | purple_cow | laodamas: you know that by staying in boulder on the 12th & 13th you'll get to help me move, right? :) |
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| 02:26.21 | laodamas | purple_cow: possibly. The conference goes from 8AM to 11PM for three of the four nights |
| 02:27.06 | laodamas | http://www.marssociety.org/convention/2005/2005v10.pdf |
| 02:30.03 | laodamas | s/appear/appear at/ |
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| 02:52.15 | purple_cow | hmm, they bottle black butte |
| 02:52.43 | Cae | lol |
| 02:53.01 | pagefault | mmm booze |
| 02:53.04 | Cae | hey, all of you, whatever you want tested, and I mean destroyed, let me know tomorrow. |
| 02:53.06 | pagefault | booze is good |
| 02:53.12 | pagefault | booze |
| 02:53.15 | purple_cow | Cae: xchat-gnome |
| 02:53.21 | numist | Cae: are you on the topic of booze still? :P |
| 02:53.44 | ChipX86 | Cae: galago and notifications |
| 02:53.47 | Cae | numist: I recommend a shot that is half vodka, half rumplemintz |
| 02:53.53 | Cae | it looks really damned cool |
| 02:54.08 | lurgy | numist: i don't really recommend a drink made up of whiskey and rum and anything else, it's really nasty |
| 02:54.14 | numist | Cae: alas I have no alcohol, and am months too young to procure my own |
| 02:54.15 | purple_cow | lurgy: hehehe |
| 02:54.22 | numist | lurgy: nice |
| 02:54.52 | Cae | okay, so galago, notifications, xchat-gnome.. |
| 02:54.57 | purple_cow | ok, time for the procurement of alcohol |
| 02:55.08 | Cae | and gaim, actually, getting back into testing gaim and lurking in the channel |
| 02:55.18 | numist | Id give you something to break, Cae, but everything Im working on is already broken.. hence me working on them :P |
| 02:55.38 | Cae | hehe |
| 02:55.50 | Cae | but giving it to me when it's broken is damned amusing |
| 02:56.00 | Cae | Chip can vouch for that ;) |
| 02:56.09 | numist | Cae: well, if you really want :/ |
| 02:56.17 | ChipX86 | she discovered some very interesting bugs |
| 02:56.28 | numist | lol |
| 02:56.28 | Cae | MSN #9 trumps all :) |
| 02:56.30 | ChipX86 | yep |
| 02:56.43 | Cae | I don't even entirely remember what it was |
| 02:56.47 | ChipX86 | me neither |
| 02:56.49 | Cae | except it was really damned weird |
| 02:57.00 | ChipX86 | yep |
| 02:57.01 | ChipX86 | very |
| 02:57.19 | Cae | and involved invisible states in msn and sending messages to invisible people, then having them become visible, send messages again, and gaim would crash |
| 02:57.25 | Cae | something to that extent |
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| 02:58.12 | Cae | except there was a distinctly strange step or two in it |
| 02:58.21 | Cae | that involved me being really really bored |
| 02:58.28 | Cae | and I can't remember what it was.. |
| 02:58.48 | ChipX86 | what's this N= stuff in the ident? |
| 02:58.58 | Cae | dunno |
| 02:59.10 | Cae | sometime's it's l, I think |
| 02:59.12 | pagefault | N=newbie |
| 02:59.15 | Cae | er, sometimes |
| 02:59.16 | ChipX86 | stupid new hyperion server |
| 02:59.54 | Cae | heh |
| 03:00.19 | Cae | deryni still remembers me :) |
| 03:00.24 | Cae | sean I think is mildly confused |
| 03:00.26 | ChipX86 | :) |
| 03:00.27 | ChipX86 | heh |
| 03:00.34 | ChipX86 | Cae: what else is new? ;) |
| 03:00.38 | Cae | true ;) |
| 03:00.50 | scanlime | damnit |
| 03:01.03 | scanlime | the linode admins aren't even around |
| 03:01.09 | scanlime | I'm just stuck in an argument with some of their groupies now |
| 03:01.16 | scanlime | fucking unprofessional |
| 03:01.21 | ChipX86 | :/ |
| 03:01.25 | ChipX86 | what happened? |
| 03:01.47 | Cae | ah, it's a good thing I don't own a webcam.. |
| 03:01.54 | numist | ? |
| 03:01.59 | numist | ah, testing |
| 03:02.07 | scanlime | ChipX86: CIA was leaking, my script didn't catch that and restart it, my linode was thrashing |
| 03:02.22 | scanlime | ChipX86: so of course they limit my I/O to something obscenely unusable then run away without so much as an email |
| 03:02.29 | ChipX86 | ughh |
| 03:02.33 | scanlime | I'm really pissed off.. this is definitely not the first time they've done it to me |
| 03:02.52 | Cae | :\ |
| 03:02.55 | numist | :( |
| 03:03.20 | Cae | no, me not owning a webcam means I don't have to worry about what I wear just out of the shower :P |
| 03:03.21 | numist | I would offer hogwarts, but 1) it's bsd, 2) its currently under heavy use, and 3) CIA probably needs more than one server... |
| 03:03.30 | numist | Cae: damn |
| 03:03.32 | ChipX86 | Cae: same |
| 03:03.40 | numist | hrm |
| 03:03.44 | Cae | or don't wear, more pointedly. |
| 03:03.47 | ChipX86 | :) |
| 03:04.10 | Cae | LOL |
| 03:04.11 | numist | but theres no one else here anymore, so I suppose I could wear whatever I want |
| 03:04.19 | Cae | that's what you get for being..whatever you are.. |
| 03:04.34 | numist | :) |
| 03:05.06 | Cae | what time is it where you are? or do you work night shifts? |
| 03:09.50 | scanlime | guh |
| 03:09.56 | scanlime | I can't stand #linode |
| 03:09.59 | Cae | buh buh |
| 03:10.16 | scanlime | everyone in there is a damn groupie that thinks I'm not paying for a disk with my $40/month server or something |
| 03:13.18 | lurgy | boo |
| 03:14.58 | scanlime | maybe I'm the only one that expects a commercial hosting provider to not intentionally cut off the service you're paying them for |
| 03:15.00 | rioter | dell only charged me 24$ for 3 250 gig hard drives |
| 03:15.25 | ChipX86 | wow |
| 03:15.35 | numist | rioter: ... |
| 03:15.36 | scanlime | can I get dell to charge me only $24 for 3 LCD monitors? |
| 03:16.02 | rioter | i dont know what went wrong, but im not saying anything haha |
| 03:16.09 | numist | scanlime: if you want, I have a friend at simpli. Business is business :) |
| 03:16.25 | purple_cow | liquormart++ |
| 03:16.31 | purple_cow | yay for them having it |
| 03:16.53 | numist | Im impressed with what Ive used so far, but then again Im a user on my friends personal machine at the datacenter, so all I have to do is /msg root if I need anything |
| 03:17.02 | scanlime | numist: it's tempting, but linode works well when they don't kill my I/O.. I really don't have time to move CIA right now |
| 03:17.18 | numist | scanlime: fair enough. Open offer for later :) |
| 03:17.21 | scanlime | I kinda want to run it in VMware actually ;) |
| 03:17.36 | numist | Ill bet you do :) |
| 03:17.36 | scanlime | ESX looks a hell of a lot nicer than UML |
| 03:18.23 | scanlime | though I'd probably end up running e.x.p builds on it, so CIA'd be a lot less reliable than it is now |
| 03:18.48 | numist | run a test variant of CIA in here, and let other channels live with the normal variant then? |
| 03:18.58 | scanlime | heh |
| 03:19.01 | numist | any number of things you could do |
| 03:19.18 | scanlime | I might set up CIA in a VM just for internal use... if anyone here gets the motivation to write a client for perforce |
| 03:21.16 | *** join/#tacobeam CIA-5 (N=CIA@flapjack.navi.cx) |
| 03:21.26 | numist | given you two, Im sure theres someone |
| 03:25.16 | *** join/#tacobeam CIA-11 (N=CIA@flapjack.navi.cx) |
| 03:29.58 | scanlime | woo. I broke vmware in windows.. again.. |
| 03:30.19 | scanlime | oh, maybe not.. guess it was just being real slow |
| 03:36.25 | file[laptop] | not a wizard! |
| 03:36.38 | ChipX86 | I'm rewriting that :) |
| 03:36.48 | scanlime | ChipX86: the one that comes with windows? |
| 03:37.04 | ChipX86 | oh, nope |
| 03:37.10 | file[laptop] | darn I was close |
| 03:37.23 | ChipX86 | the windows guys are massively behind us on that stuff |
| 03:37.59 | scanlime | no kidding |
| 03:38.05 | scanlime | I can hotplug USB under linux all I want and it's great |
| 03:38.19 | scanlime | under windows it's dead slow, I get wizards all over my screen, and it just shuts off the USB hub after a couple tries |
| 03:39.13 | scanlime | it also really bugs me how windows considers the same device plugged into a different USB port to be 'new hardware' |
| 03:41.38 | scanlime | what a silly data structure... |
| 03:43.22 | ChipX86 | "Wait a second.. I know that monkey! His name is Donkey!" "Monkeys aren't donkeys! Stop messing with my head!" |
| 03:43.42 | file[laptop] | I found it amusing that J2 fax is suing us, and then they send me spam faxes |
| 03:43.58 | ChipX86 | I love the Solomon's Key reference |
| 03:44.03 | ChipX86 | great Futurama episode |
| 03:44.15 | kergoth | hehe |
| 03:44.24 | ChipX86 | "You need the blue key." |
| 03:45.34 | scanlime | yay. mike responded to my support ticket |
| 03:45.35 | file[laptop] | aha yes |
| 03:45.52 | file[laptop] | scanlime: and the verdict is... death? |
| 03:49.34 | scanlime | ah, there it goes |
| 03:49.48 | scanlime | had some apache processes that still had sockets to it open, so it couldn't reclaim the same port |
| 03:51.20 | scanlime | heh |
| 03:51.21 | scanlime | Last login: Mon Aug 8 23:50:30 2005 from mailout1.vmware.com |
| 03:51.21 | scanlime | micah@zero ~ $ |
| 03:51.26 | scanlime | I'm still not used to that |
| 03:51.47 | ChipX86 | :) |
| 03:52.07 | nullpuppy | wtf |
| 03:52.10 | nullpuppy | my printer disappeared |
| 03:52.12 | nullpuppy | dammit cups |
| 03:52.18 | scanlime | ok, there's a flaw in synergy |
| 03:52.41 | scanlime | copy and paste between windows and linux works, but alt-drag stops working to move things around as soon as I'm in windows |
| 03:53.01 | scanlime | it can synchronize screen savers, why can't it synchronize WM behaviour? |
| 03:53.03 | scanlime | :P |
| 03:55.00 | kergoth | hehe |
| 03:56.08 | scanlime | the copy and paste is handy though.. |
| 03:56.19 | nullpuppy | there, stupid POS, printer works again |
| 03:56.26 | Cae | lol |
| 03:57.08 | purple_cow | mmmmm black butte |
| 03:57.14 | nullpuppy | i really have no fscking idea what happened |
| 03:58.22 | nullpuppy | homes are too damn expensive |
| 04:00.30 | pagefault | heh |
| 04:00.35 | pagefault | amazon.com is dangerous with that one click buy |
| 04:00.56 | nullpuppy | did you just buy something you didn't mean to? :) |
| 04:01.09 | pagefault | nah |
| 04:01.12 | pagefault | but it's tempting |
| 04:01.21 | nullpuppy | hehe |
| 04:01.23 | Cae | he bought lots of stuff he intended to :) that's the problem ;) |
| 04:01.25 | scanlime | ok.. enough work for today |
| 04:01.33 | nullpuppy | hehe |
| 04:12.20 | lurgy | wow |
| 04:12.58 | lurgy | so dipal just sent me the code she's been working on |
| 04:13.06 | lurgy | oh my |
| 04:13.12 | lurgy | she really likes the triple quotes.. |
| 04:13.15 | Cae | is that good or bad? |
| 04:13.20 | Cae | ohh |
| 04:13.36 | lurgy | c.execute (""" TRUNCATE TABLE test_logs """) |
| 04:13.44 | lurgy | i mean, sure, it compiles, but really.. |
| 04:13.46 | Cae | hehe |
| 04:13.48 | lurgy | it's a little silly |
| 04:14.26 | numist | thats very silly |
| 04:16.41 | purple_cow | wow |
| 04:16.45 | purple_cow | i don't remember statistics at all |
| 04:18.00 | lurgy | so, good job |
| 04:18.04 | purple_cow | heh |
| 04:18.11 | purple_cow | well, it'd be useful for my job right about now :P |
| 04:18.20 | lurgy | d'oh |
| 04:36.19 | purple_cow | ooh |
| 04:36.23 | purple_cow | gnumeric has ANOVA built in |
| 04:36.41 | Cae | god I'm talking to a strange group of people right now |
| 04:38.14 | lurgy | hey now |
| 04:38.25 | lurgy | i'm one of those people you're talking to right here |
| 04:38.29 | lurgy | and i'd just like to say |
| 04:38.31 | lurgy | have a gorilla |
| 04:38.40 | Cae | why? |
| 04:38.43 | nullpuppy | haha |
| 04:39.01 | Cae | do you have a thing for gorillas, lurgy? |
| 04:39.53 | lurgy | no, it's just i'm trying to give them up |
| 04:40.23 | lurgy | actually from what i hear, Cae is probably significantly shorter than a gorilla.. |
| 04:40.32 | Cae | possibly. |
| 04:40.46 | lurgy | mwa ha |
| 04:48.42 | purple_cow | hehehe, what a great movie |
| 04:52.18 | scanlime | hmm |
| 04:52.21 | scanlime | apparently my apartment complex is having a welcome-new-people type party |
| 04:52.38 | file[laptop] | oh no! |
| 04:52.40 | pagefault | neat |
| 04:52.49 | lurgy | uh oh |
| 04:52.52 | lurgy | can i come? |
| 04:53.02 | scanlime | :) |
| 04:53.12 | scanlime | you're welcome here whenever :) |
| 04:53.18 | lurgy | hehe |
| 04:53.18 | lurgy | well |
| 04:53.23 | lurgy | next time i'm around ;) |
| 04:53.34 | scanlime | I wonder what happened to this apartment's previous tenant |
| 04:53.36 | pagefault | hello |
| 04:53.42 | lurgy | oh you know |
| 04:53.45 | lurgy | probably axe murdered |
| 04:53.51 | lurgy | most previous tenants usually were |
| 04:53.58 | Cae | not hanged? |
| 04:54.00 | pagefault | I have developed my own compression format yay |
| 04:54.01 | scanlime | I get tons of mail addressed to random people still.. and my storage area was full of old magazines and stuff still |
| 04:54.03 | Cae | how strange. |
| 04:54.03 | file[laptop] | lurgy: you're always so positive |
| 04:54.08 | Cae | or shot. |
| 04:54.10 | scanlime | lurgy: yeah |
| 04:54.15 | scanlime | probably still in the cieling somewhere |
| 04:54.16 | Cae | we shoot people down here, after all |
| 04:54.16 | lurgy | Cae: those are just worn cliches :P |
| 04:54.23 | lurgy | no, it's california |
| 04:54.24 | scanlime | that explains all the new paint around here, right? |
| 04:54.27 | lurgy | they do it the civilized way |
| 04:54.34 | Cae | oh. poison? :P |
| 04:54.37 | lurgy | heh |
| 04:54.41 | lurgy | no, definitely the axe |
| 04:54.54 | scanlime | yes |
| 04:54.55 | lurgy | it's not a civilized death unless you can be eye level with your own feet |
| 04:55.04 | lurgy | ..with both on the ground |
| 04:57.31 | purple_cow | you just need a fancy blue light and funky looking glasses |
| 04:57.45 | lurgy | yay |
| 04:58.02 | lurgy | then scanlime can be just like the cool guys on CSI: elevator inspectors unit |
| 04:58.19 | scanlime | hehe |
| 04:58.33 | scanlime | I need more christmas lights.. fancy blue christmas lights |
| 04:58.54 | lurgy | you should spend your entire salary for two years on blue christmas lights |
| 04:59.06 | scanlime | yes! |
| 04:59.11 | scanlime | so, like $500 after taxes? |
| 04:59.41 | lurgy | it can be an allegorical reenactment of the chinese "great leap forward" of 1963-1964 |
| 05:00.04 | lurgy | except with christmas lights instead of industrializations |
| 05:00.08 | lurgy | but the same lack of food |
| 05:00.14 | scanlime | haha |
| 05:00.43 | lurgy | damn |
| 05:00.46 | lurgy | 1958-60 |
| 05:00.47 | lurgy | oh well |
| 05:01.14 | Cae | it's like bubbles! |
| 05:02.02 | scanlime | lurgy: Andrew needs to learn how to write emails using multiple paragraphs |
| 05:02.34 | lurgy | hehe :) |
| 05:02.36 | lurgy | shucks |
| 05:02.45 | lurgy | scanlime: ^_^ |
| 05:04.47 | scanlime | actually, maybe he just needs to learn how to pause in general |
| 05:04.50 | scanlime | this is a single sentence: |
| 05:05.01 | scanlime | 'OK here is the results of the oscilloscope on the RS-485 line when sending |
| 05:05.01 | scanlime | commands to the M_net which successfully turned on and off and the ADCS relay |
| 05:05.01 | scanlime | which sends an error message "No reply received"' |
| 05:05.45 | scanlime | lurgy: were you there for this test? |
| 05:08.02 | Cae | g'night peoples :) |
| 05:08.17 | scanlime | g'night Cae |
| 05:08.31 | purple_cow | scanlime: it's like one of veight's stories |
| 05:08.38 | *** part/#tacobeam Cae (N=Cae@rrcs-24-153-226-7.sw.biz.rr.com) |
| 05:09.00 | scanlime | purple_cow: yes.. except veight doesn't automatically assume that his stories are my problem :) |
| 05:09.11 | purple_cow | hehe |
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| 05:20.29 | lurgy | scanlime: nope :( |
| 05:31.13 | scanlime | oh no, I've been outbid on the localtalk to ethernet adaptor |
| 05:31.26 | nullpuppy | oh no! |
| 05:31.34 | nullpuppy | dammit |
| 05:31.39 | scanlime | I did only bid $6.98... |
| 05:31.41 | ChipX86 | bid bid bid bid... |
| 05:31.41 | nullpuppy | stupid install doesn't have gcc |
| 05:31.43 | nullpuppy | hehe |
| 05:31.54 | scanlime | well, if I can get one for free from gonkulator... |
| 05:32.22 | scanlime | plus, I bet I can rig up a PPP connection that's slower than localtalk but still faster than Netscape 2 |
| 05:32.27 | nullpuppy | hmm, i should back up my vm's to dvd, and install solaris |
| 05:32.30 | nullpuppy | since i have it now |
| 05:36.03 | scanlime | huh.. I have two package notices |
| 05:36.12 | scanlime | I guess my blanket and my USB adaptors might both be in |
| 05:36.46 | gonkulator | nullpuppy: no gcc... that reminds me of a time when scanlime was a freshman in college |
| 05:36.55 | nullpuppy | haha |
| 05:37.10 | gonkulator | nullpuppy: there wasn't gcc on one of the machines he had a login on |
| 05:37.16 | ChipX86 | I need to get After Dark working in Linux again |
| 05:37.18 | ChipX86 | and make it work well this time |
| 05:37.30 | gonkulator | so he downloaded the source code for gcc so he could install a compiler :) |
| 05:37.52 | nullpuppy | hahaha |
| 05:37.58 | nullpuppy | :) |
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| 05:38.36 | gonkulator | oooh, a spooklight |
| 05:39.00 | spooklight | boo! |
| 05:39.29 | scanlime | yay, bills.. |
| 05:39.45 | gonkulator | ow |
| 05:39.47 | gonkulator | wow even |
| 05:40.03 | ChipX86 | scanlime: owww |
| 05:40.12 | scanlime | student loan :P |
| 05:40.15 | ChipX86 | :( |
| 05:40.35 | purple_cow | scanlime: owww |
| 05:40.48 | gonkulator | my whole college education didn't even cost 19,000 |
| 05:41.08 | scanlime | well, I've had this bill for a while now... |
| 05:41.23 | scanlime | heh |
| 05:41.24 | nullpuppy | nope, its gonna cost double! |
| 05:41.37 | gonkulator | silly CU and their tuition hikes |
| 05:41.49 | scanlime | and look, a $5 electric bill! |
| 05:41.53 | scanlime | covering.. about a week |
| 05:41.56 | gonkulator | hahahah |
| 05:41.56 | purple_cow | gonkulator: yeah, but the state is still paying that, it's just you have to sign up |
| 05:42.09 | gonkulator | oooh, hmm... |
| 05:42.56 | ChipX86 | hrm |
| 05:42.58 | nullpuppy | the solaris install is.. interesting |
| 05:43.25 | CIA-11 | osiris-misc: 03chipx86 * r179 10/trunk/ (31 files in 11 dirs): Committing the beginings of TACO - The Amazing COntraption. |
| 05:43.34 | nullpuppy | hahahah |
| 05:43.37 | nullpuppy | sweet! |
| 05:43.52 | nullpuppy | is that what i think it is? :) |
| 05:43.56 | spooklight | yay! |
| 05:43.56 | ChipX86 | it just might be |
| 05:43.58 | purple_cow | =D |
| 05:43.58 | ChipX86 | what do you think it is? |
| 05:44.17 | gonkulator | heh, what is it? |
| 05:44.24 | nullpuppy | clone of an old, classic game |
| 05:44.29 | nullpuppy | or.. remake rather |
| 05:45.00 | gonkulator | yay taco |
| 05:45.03 | purple_cow | ooh, .cs |
| 05:45.04 | purple_cow | hurray! |
| 05:45.26 | scanlime | =D |
| 05:45.38 | nullpuppy | whoa! damm.. |
| 05:45.41 | scanlime | it had better have cats still |
| 05:45.44 | ChipX86 | it will |
| 05:45.44 | nullpuppy | i don't have enough room for a full install |
| 05:45.50 | ChipX86 | I only hacked a little bit on the train today |
| 05:45.55 | nullpuppy | entire distribution plus oem support.. 9668.00mb |
| 05:46.03 | ChipX86 | so there's not much except for non-compilable classes that are helping me work my idas for this |
| 05:46.12 | scanlime | nod |
| 05:46.22 | nullpuppy | hrm |
| 05:46.31 | purple_cow | hmm, connectors, slots and thingies |
| 05:46.41 | nullpuppy | i think i may head to work tomorrow and pick up a usb enclosure and another 200gb drive to throw my vm's on |
| 05:47.01 | scanlime | ohh, different game... |
| 05:47.04 | nullpuppy | cause 35GB really is not enough space |
| 05:47.04 | ChipX86 | purple_cow: aren't I great at naming conventions? |
| 05:47.11 | scanlime | ChipX86: rocky's boots? I was thinking The Incredible Machine |
| 05:47.23 | ChipX86 | scanlime: it is TIM |
| 05:47.31 | ChipX86 | the clone of Rocky's Boots never got finished |
| 05:47.34 | nullpuppy | thats that i was thinking too :) |
| 05:47.39 | ChipX86 | ("Circuits 'Ole") |
| 05:47.40 | nullpuppy | yay :) |
| 05:47.46 | purple_cow | hehe, today's SGR is good |
| 05:48.04 | nullpuppy | wow.. this really blows |
| 05:48.15 | nullpuppy | i created a 6gb drive to throw this on.. and i can't do it.. |
| 05:48.21 | nullpuppy | smallest install is over 6gb |
| 05:48.22 | ChipX86 | nullpuppy: :( |
| 05:48.28 | nullpuppy | thats.. insane |
| 05:48.31 | nullpuppy | hmm |
| 05:48.59 | nullpuppy | i'll just do that tomorrow i guess |
| 05:49.07 | gonkulator | the default install of OS X is 15 gig |
| 05:49.23 | nullpuppy | gonkulator: damn |
| 05:49.41 | gonkulator | with all the stuff that Apple puts on it |
| 05:49.43 | nullpuppy | hmm, i wonder if openbeos boots yet |
| 05:49.48 | gonkulator | at least, for a new box |
| 05:50.30 | nullpuppy | thats not too bad |
| 05:50.38 | nullpuppy | a base xp install is like 3gb |
| 05:51.01 | rioter | 2.2 i think |
| 05:51.02 | nullpuppy | whoa |
| 05:51.10 | nullpuppy | openbeos changed its name it looks like |
| 05:51.27 | nullpuppy | 4.5G ./Windows XP Professional (Orig) |
| 05:51.32 | nullpuppy | thats my xp vm |
| 05:51.40 | nullpuppy | with a couple things added.. so.. |
| 05:51.45 | nullpuppy | its not really quite taht big ;) |
| 05:54.27 | gonkulator | and on that note |
| 05:54.31 | gonkulator | good night everyone |
| 05:54.38 | nullpuppy | gnight |
| 05:56.21 | pagefault | relax |
| 05:56.23 | pagefault | don't do it |
| 05:56.28 | pagefault | duh duh duh |
| 05:56.34 | pagefault | duh duh duh |
| 05:56.42 | pagefault | silly song |
| 05:57.26 | scanlime | I've still got this crazy urge to build a USB to C64 cable |
| 05:57.57 | scanlime | there have been parallel port to C64 cables for years, but you have to bit-bang the C64's protocol in software.. kinda sucks on a modern multitasking OS |
| 05:58.21 | scanlime | if you could use a modified usb-serial adaptor with custom firmware, you could get some really nice transfer rates |
| 05:58.35 | scanlime | maybe even program the microcontroller to do the disk drive emulation, then just feed it disk sectors as they're requested |
| 05:58.43 | ChipX86 | mmmm |
| 05:58.53 | ChipX86 | oh hey, scanlime, is Firefly on navi? |
| 05:58.58 | scanlime | I'd love to have an NSLU2 emulating the commodore 64 disk drive |
| 05:59.06 | scanlime | ChipX86: should be.. plus I have the DVDs |
| 05:59.09 | ChipX86 | cool |
| 05:59.16 | ChipX86 | can I get copies of those sometime (absolutely no hurry) |
| 05:59.21 | scanlime | yeah |
| 05:59.28 | scanlime | though if you have the money, I recommend getting the DVDs |
| 05:59.32 | scanlime | they're spiffy n' stuff |
| 05:59.34 | ChipX86 | yeah, I should |
| 06:07.53 | pagefault | I am the best |
| 06:08.26 | nullpuppy | dammit, i so need to stop looking at kinesis.. its making me want one more and more :( |
| 06:08.29 | nullpuppy | so damn expensive though |
| 06:08.51 | nullpuppy | http://www.kinesis-ergo.com/classic.htm |
| 06:16.32 | ChipX86 | http://www.buy.com/retail/product.asp?sku=10390747&loc=101&sp=1&adid=17662 |
| 06:16.33 | ChipX86 | cute |
| 06:17.56 | nullpuppy | neat! |
| 06:23.41 | ChipX86 | looks like balsa is talking about libnotify support |
| 06:24.30 | nullpuppy | crap |
| 06:24.37 | nullpuppy | thats right.. i need to enlarge the disk still |
| 06:24.39 | nullpuppy | dammit |
| 06:25.01 | nullpuppy | might as well just reisntall the fscking thing |
| 06:25.14 | ChipX86 | :( |
| 06:26.36 | ChipX86 | wow, lots of libnotify discussions in lots of projects |
| 06:26.57 | nullpuppy | wow.. the vm dir just grew by 800mb |
| 06:27.01 | nullpuppy | all from installing sp2 |
| 06:27.04 | ChipX86 | wow |
| 06:27.36 | nullpuppy | hmm, 11gb free on that partition |
| 06:28.15 | nullpuppy | hmm |
| 06:28.20 | nullpuppy | terastation? |
| 06:28.54 | ChipX86 | http://www.compuplus.com/insidepage.php3?refer=froogle&id=1004083 |
| 06:29.31 | nullpuppy | wow, nice |
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| 06:30.27 | nullpuppy | yeah.. would probably cost about the same to build one of those |
| 06:30.32 | nullpuppy | from scratch |
| 06:30.34 | ChipX86 | or more |
| 06:30.36 | nullpuppy | maybe a little less |
| 06:31.09 | nullpuppy | hehe |
| 06:31.24 | nullpuppy | well.. actually |
| 06:31.32 | nullpuppy | *I* could build one for probably less :) |
| 06:31.38 | nullpuppy | but then.. i can get stuff at wholesale :) |
| 06:31.42 | ChipX86 | heh |
| 06:32.00 | ChipX86 | I was looking at the prices of drives + enclosures and realized that I was already getting close to the price of the terastation |
| 06:32.07 | nullpuppy | yeah |
| 06:32.12 | nullpuppy | you would |
| 06:32.23 | nullpuppy | but.. i was thinking more of a single enclosure |
| 06:32.33 | nullpuppy | then run the whole thing off of something like an epia or something |
| 06:32.38 | purple_cow | my disk array cost a little over $500. if you really want the NAS aspect, slap on an NSLU2 and it's still under $600 |
| 06:33.01 | nullpuppy | yeah |
| 06:36.45 | nullpuppy | hrm.. is there a way to make growisofs burn directories? (ie to burn /blah/blah/1/ /blah/blah/2/ /blah/blah/3/ etc (and have 1/ 2/ and 3/ being dirs on the dvd..) |
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| 06:39.10 | ChipX86 | yay, another very crappy scifi channel movie |
| 06:39.19 | scanlime | nullpuppy: yes, it's pretty flexible about that.. I forget the exact syntax, but you can map any directory in your filesystem to any directory on the disk |
| 06:39.50 | nullpuppy | scanlime: hmm, ok |
| 06:40.41 | nullpuppy | or not |
| 06:40.41 | nullpuppy | hmm |
| 06:41.02 | scanlime | oh, neat |
| 06:41.13 | scanlime | it's all right here in the manual |
| 06:41.14 | scanlime | :P |
| 06:41.22 | scanlime | I wish computers were still like this |
| 06:41.35 | scanlime | damn.. a USB interface to this would be fun and easy |
| 06:42.02 | nullpuppy | hehe |
| 06:48.30 | scanlime | ooh.. the SEXY register |
| 06:48.34 | scanlime | (sprite expand Y) |
| 06:48.43 | ChipX86 | :) |
| 06:51.51 | nullpuppy | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:51.55 | nullpuppy | -graft-points |
| 06:52.33 | rioter | oh my domain is expiring |
| 06:52.52 | ChipX86 | The Brothers Grimm looks interesting |
| 06:52.57 | nullpuppy | yeah |
| 06:53.05 | nullpuppy | looks like it could be good |
| 06:53.07 | ChipX86 | Charlie and the Chocolate Factory was awesome |
| 06:53.12 | nullpuppy | :) |
| 06:53.13 | rioter | :( |
| 06:53.17 | rioter | its still not out here |
| 06:53.20 | nullpuppy | :( |
| 06:53.20 | ChipX86 | :( |
| 06:53.24 | ChipX86 | such a good movie |
| 06:53.31 | nullpuppy | yup |
| 06:53.40 | nullpuppy | i loved depps portrayal of wonka |
| 06:53.41 | nullpuppy | sooo good |
| 06:53.43 | ChipX86 | yep |
| 06:53.57 | scanlime | oh, that's out now isn't it... |
| 06:55.04 | nullpuppy | yup |
| 06:55.07 | nullpuppy | you should go see it |
| 06:55.14 | ChipX86 | I'd see it again |
| 06:55.34 | ChipX86 | :( |
| 06:55.56 | nullpuppy | i went and bough groceries this morning.. got home, was about to pay my house payment.. and found out the payment went up |
| 06:56.00 | nullpuppy | so i was short :( |
| 06:56.09 | scanlime | =( |
| 06:56.12 | rioter | ouch |
| 06:56.30 | nullpuppy | i soo need to get more money in savings |
| 06:57.01 | nullpuppy | whoa, thats messed up |
| 06:57.12 | nullpuppy | no tax at all :) |
| 07:02.40 | ChipX86 | does anyone here have a copy of TIM I can stick in a VM and play with? |
| 07:03.17 | scanlime | I think I ran across a copy on an abandonware site not long ago |
| 07:03.36 | scanlime | http://www.the-underdogs.org/ |
| 07:03.44 | scanlime | lots o' old games there |
| 07:03.47 | ChipX86 | neat |
| 07:03.58 | CIA-11 | galago: 03chipx86 07glib-port * r2100 10libgalago/ (35 files in 2 dirs): Several fixups from on the train today. |
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| 07:06.20 | nullpuppy | pfft |
| 07:06.24 | nullpuppy | its only midnight :) |
| 07:10.46 | nullpuppy | wow.. it runs in xp with no configuraiton... |
| 07:10.53 | ChipX86 | tim3? |
| 07:11.03 | nullpuppy | haven't tried 3 |
| 07:11.10 | ChipX86 | which? |
| 07:11.26 | nullpuppy | http://www.the-underdogs.org/game.php?gameid=537 |
| 07:11.27 | nullpuppy | that one |
| 07:11.46 | ChipX86 | ah |
| 07:13.41 | nullpuppy | oooh, gearheads |
| 07:14.43 | nullpuppy | hmm, there was a nother game similar to TIM too.. was out in the mid 90's... can't remember the name though :( |
| 07:15.51 | nullpuppy | lotta physics stuff |
| 07:16.00 | nullpuppy | built racecars or something |
| 07:20.25 | nullpuppy | :( they don't have commander keen |
| 07:25.16 | ChipX86 | tim 1 is not wanting to play well in vmware |
| 07:25.32 | ChipX86 | lost my mouse cursor |
| 07:25.38 | nullpuppy | :( |
| 07:25.46 | ChipX86 | ah there it is.. but it doesn't map to my actual mouse |
| 07:25.48 | ChipX86 | silly dos games |
| 07:26.05 | nullpuppy | yeah |
| 07:32.44 | ChipX86 | heh, yay for old games that only want to work right in 256 colors |
| 07:34.30 | nullpuppy | hehe |
| 07:36.37 | nullpuppy | got it! |
| 07:36.46 | nullpuppy | gizmos and gadgets |
| 07:37.12 | nullpuppy | yes |
| 07:37.14 | nullpuppy | ! |
| 07:37.16 | nullpuppy | they have it |
| 07:37.48 | nullpuppy | http://www.the-underdogs.org/game.php?id=1097 |
| 07:38.24 | nullpuppy | just need tim3 to download faster now :) |
| 07:38.35 | ChipX86 | yeah, takes a while |
| 07:38.57 | nullpuppy | but dude.. that rocks.. i missed that game ;) |
| 07:39.21 | ChipX86 | ohhh that game |
| 07:39.26 | nullpuppy | :) |
| 07:39.29 | ChipX86 | I was talking about that series of games the other day |
| 07:39.32 | ChipX86 | couldn't remember the name |
| 07:39.37 | nullpuppy | :) |
| 07:40.14 | nullpuppy | i remember playing it at a friends house |
| 07:40.21 | nullpuppy | not sure i ever actually owned it |
| 07:48.45 | purple_cow | hmm, 2.5mi |
| 07:48.50 | purple_cow | not too bad for a simple little loop |
| 07:50.49 | purple_cow | ChipX86: is there any reason you were using tim1 instead of tim3? :) |
| 07:50.52 | purple_cow | tim3 was so much cooler |
| 07:51.34 | ChipX86 | I downloaded both, but tim3 was taking too long |
| 07:52.35 | ChipX86 | playing tim3 now, but I should go to bed |
| 07:52.43 | nullpuppy | hmm |
| 07:59.54 | ChipX86 | g'night |
| 08:02.27 | numist | hrm, no way I can sleep in this mood |
| 08:04.26 | purple_cow | what mood? |
| 08:05.18 | numist | codecodecodecode :) |
| 08:05.26 | purple_cow | ah |
| 08:05.39 | numist | my brain is just racing, playing around with objects and all sorts of things |
| 08:06.00 | numist | I love the mood, but damn I really need sleep, and Im going to be a zombie at work today |
| 08:07.33 | purple_cow | mmm zombies |
| 08:07.51 | numist | braaaiiinnnsss |
| 08:08.10 | purple_cow | time to make toast and shut down the upstairs machines |
| 08:08.15 | numist | aye |
| 08:21.25 | purple_cow | http://www.nasa.gov/images/content/124415main_image_feature_380a_ys_full.jpg |
| 08:25.08 | numist | thats gotta be my new background |
| 08:26.22 | numist | damn how is Deer Park Alpha so much faster and lighter-feeling than firefox? I would have expected it to be more bloated without release optimizations and such |
| 08:26.29 | purple_cow | too busy for my taste as a background, but definitely the coolest photo i've seen this week |
| 08:26.34 | numist | totally |
| 08:31.57 | purple_cow | hah |
| 08:32.00 | purple_cow | ``Political reporters laugh with glee as wife of husband convicted of tax fraud announces she will challenge wife of impeached president for Senate seat'' |
| 08:34.39 | numist | http://athena.numist.net/~numist/wp.jpg <-- a good wallpaper, methinks |
| 08:36.49 | purple_cow | ooh, angsty |
| 08:38.49 | numist | it keeps me from getting distracted |
| 08:40.32 | purple_cow | heh |
| 08:40.57 | numist | yay fyre things |
| 08:41.16 | numist | gnome translucents? |
| 08:41.21 | purple_cow | yep. i need to get the one i printed at siggraph framed :D |
| 08:41.39 | purple_cow | numist: gnome comes with a few translucent tile images that you can overlay on a gradient |
| 08:41.44 | purple_cow | makes for a very classy background |
| 08:41.54 | numist | nice |
| 09:40.17 | purple_cow | yay |
| 09:40.28 | purple_cow | electricity will be turned on at my new place on the 12th and off at the old on the 15th |
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| 13:07.47 | Cae | good morning people who are not yet awake :) |
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| 13:58.38 | Cae | morning lurgy :) |
| 14:01.27 | lurgy | mornin' Cae |
| 14:02.11 | Cae | ah god, nothing quite matches being able to disappear for a year and come back and have the devs still love you.. |
| 14:06.55 | Cae | installing gaim unstable.. |
| 14:07.04 | Cae | next galago unstable.. |
| 14:07.10 | Cae | then xchat-gnome unstable.. |
| 14:07.19 | Cae | there was something else too.. |
| 14:08.59 | Cae | feel free |
| 14:14.07 | Cae | wth, sean wrote a book? |
| 14:17.53 | Cae | what are ao and audio file in debian.. |
| 14:19.00 | lurgy | hehe, a book, huh.. |
| 14:19.11 | lurgy | "My Glorious Life"? |
| 14:19.47 | Cae | something like that |
| 14:23.14 | lurgy | ^_^ |
| 14:24.52 | Cae | and of course, building gaim hates me as much as ever.. |
| 14:33.31 | Cae|Away | meeting till about 1pm |
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| 14:38.26 | Veight | rawr. |
| 14:52.48 | CIA-11 | g2bridge: 03evan * r581 10documents/suli/ (body.tex presentation/bridge.ppt): |
| 14:52.48 | CIA-11 | g2bridge: Rephrasing the introduction a bit more. I think I'm happy with it now. Also |
| 14:52.48 | CIA-11 | g2bridge: commiting some old changes to the presentation. |
| 15:12.52 | kergoth | they're writing up the job offer. |
| 15:13.46 | file[laptop] | status report on job status? |
| 15:14.06 | kergoth | they're going to write up the job offer. they want me there, badly. the other main developer was all "so when is he starting?" |
| 15:14.09 | kergoth | :P |
| 15:14.17 | file[laptop] | that's excellent |
| 15:14.18 | darth_mall | cool |
| 15:14.19 | kergoth | they didnt haggle on wage, i told them what i wanted, and they're giving it to me |
| 15:14.27 | darth_mall | even better |
| 15:16.52 | file[laptop] | yay people gave me money |
| 15:16.54 | kergoth | yay |
| 15:17.52 | Veight | yay |
| 15:17.59 | Veight | i just wanted to be special too :) |
| 15:18.06 | file[laptop] | pfft poor Veight |
| 15:18.21 | scanlime | kergoth: congrats! |
| 15:18.38 | kergoth | thanks :) |
| 15:23.07 | lurgy | i'm a grandfather! |
| 15:23.31 | kergoth | what? |
| 15:23.34 | scanlime | hehe |
| 15:23.34 | darth_mall | haha |
| 15:25.23 | lurgy | that's just darth_mall protecting me cuz he thinks i'm not ready for it |
| 15:25.26 | lurgy | but really, i think i am |
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| 15:32.32 | Veight | rawr |
| 15:39.26 | file[laptop] | Veight: don't you have, work, or something? |
| 15:42.28 | nullpuppy | kergoth: w00t! congrats man! |
| 15:42.34 | kergoth | :D thanks |
| 15:42.42 | kergoth | mm, money |
| 15:43.02 | nullpuppy | hehe |
| 15:43.16 | nullpuppy | had to pull money out of saving to cover the house payment |
| 15:43.20 | kergoth | doh |
| 15:43.26 | kergoth | well, at least you had savings to pull from |
| 15:43.29 | kergoth | couldve been worse |
| 15:43.36 | nullpuppy | yeah, don't have much though... |
| 15:43.45 | nullpuppy | only like .. $50 left :) |
| 15:43.51 | kergoth | eep |
| 15:43.52 | kergoth | hehe |
| 15:45.42 | darth_mall | nullpuppy: can I borrow $50? |
| 15:45.46 | darth_mall | >=) |
| 15:45.54 | nullpuppy | lol, nope, sorry :) |
| 15:52.43 | Veight | file[laptop]: Yeah i have a job on the weekends :P |
| 15:52.58 | file[laptop] | Veight: bah |
| 16:00.31 | darth_mall | kergoth: so I read the first 3 volumes of the Sandman comics over the weekend. I think you'd like them ^^ |
| 16:00.38 | scanlime | haha, oh my... |
| 16:00.47 | scanlime | dosbox can emulate the Disney Sound Source |
| 16:01.37 | kergoth | darth_mall: nice :) |
| 16:03.04 | darth_mall | they are easily some of the best comics I've ever read |
| 16:05.10 | nullpuppy | http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5791782530 |
| 16:07.16 | scanlime | haha |
| 16:09.18 | scanlime | no bids :( |
| 16:09.19 | kergoth | hahaha |
| 16:09.25 | darth_mall | well yeah |
| 16:09.29 | darth_mall | who would pay $10 for that? |
| 16:09.53 | scanlime | figured somebody might, just to see what would happen :) |
| 16:09.55 | Veight | rofl |
| 16:10.31 | scanlime | hmm, looks like the whole thing is copied from here: http://www.spectropolis.com/speedspray/ |
| 16:10.49 | darth_mall | http://cgi.ebay.com/2004-Martin-D-45-D45-D-45V-D45V-Vintage-Series-Guitar_W0QQitemZ7341683567QQcategoryZ33028QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem <-- who wants to buy me one? |
| 16:11.00 | kergoth | ooh ooh, not me! |
| 16:11.08 | kergoth | morning Cae |
| 16:11.10 | kergoth | i'm about to be employed :D |
| 16:12.20 | numist | kergoth: really? yay! |
| 16:12.27 | Cae | yay, I'm defrosting |
| 16:12.41 | kergoth | yay |
| 16:13.21 | numist | haha wifi speed spray |
| 16:13.35 | scanlime | oh my god |
| 16:13.36 | scanlime | http://cgi.ebay.com/VINTAGE-APPLE-IIE-MACINTOSH-COMPLETE-COMPUTER-SYSTEM-NR_W0QQitemZ5795496169QQcategoryZ80075QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem |
| 16:13.42 | scanlime | this comes with an Epson MX-80 printer |
| 16:13.50 | kergoth | hehe |
| 16:13.56 | numist | I especially like the : "Esto es muy malo. No trabaja. Me engañan!" -Toraidio Smith, Tijuana |
| 16:13.58 | scanlime | first printer I ever programmed for graphics |
| 16:14.02 | scanlime | damn was that thing slow |
| 16:14.13 | scanlime | numist: :) |
| 16:14.15 | darth_mall | hmm... ebay has some explorers for cheap |
| 16:14.39 | numist | I should bid on that ][e |
| 16:15.41 | scanlime | $70 shipping :( |
| 16:15.43 | numist | yay current high bidder |
| 16:15.55 | scanlime | ooh, that has the same joystick I used in my Space Invaders board |
| 16:16.41 | numist | Zip Code: 92122 |
| 16:16.41 | numist | Country: |
| 16:16.42 | numist | Shipping and Handling: $71.09 |
| 16:16.58 | numist | >_> |
| 16:17.09 | kergoth | eep |
| 16:17.11 | scanlime | yeah.. it's a big pile of stuff to ship |
| 16:17.28 | numist | true... should have thought about that _first_ |
| 16:17.40 | numist | oh well.. at $110, Id still buy it, so thats ok. I just wont rebid if I'm outbid |
| 16:17.53 | scanlime | yea |
| 16:18.51 | numist | why does my cat love to attack moving legs so much... its not like I cant see him stalking me at every moment... |
| 16:19.12 | darth_mall | (10:18:53) Me: so there's a country gentleman on ebay for like $3000 ^^ |
| 16:19.13 | darth_mall | (10:19:13) Seany: i dare you |
| 16:19.19 | darth_mall | I love my cousin |
| 16:19.35 | numist | that stuffs in good condition |
| 16:19.40 | numist | darth_mall: nice ^^ do it |
| 16:19.51 | darth_mall | yeah, if I had $3000 to drop on a guitar |
| 16:20.08 | numist | take out a loan ;) |
| 16:20.16 | darth_mall | oh yeah, that's a good idea |
| 16:20.23 | darth_mall | especially on top of all the money I owe my parents |
| 16:20.28 | darth_mall | for a guitar I don't need |
| 16:20.54 | numist | its really funny, the ][e is _still_ smaller than most computers today... |
| 16:21.15 | numist | not as powerful, granted, but for what it was... it's way ahead of the curve |
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| 16:22.07 | scanlime | numist: TI calculators are more powerful than the Apple IIe and much smaller |
| 16:22.14 | kergoth | hehe |
| 16:22.59 | CIA-11 | g2bridge: 03evan * r582 10documents/suli/ (body.tex presentation/gsivar-class-structure.svg): More persuasive arguments. Delete this svg I'm not using. |
| 16:23.02 | scanlime | with any luck (and a trip to Fry's) I should be able to hook up a few of navi's disks and determine whether these adaptors are any good |
| 16:25.58 | numist | scanlime: yes, they are now, but which demands more attention? :P |
| 16:29.05 | nullpuppy | svnserve logs right? |
| 16:29.50 | numist | not in /var/log, apparently |
| 16:44.15 | kergoth | morning ChipX86 |
| 16:44.18 | ChipX86 | morning.. |
| 16:44.21 | Cae | morning Chip. |
| 16:44.24 | ChipX86 | scanlime: my I/O limits are 0 |
| 16:44.31 | Cae | gaim cvs hates me :( |
| 16:44.38 | darth_mall | Cae: I don't, though |
| 16:44.45 | ChipX86 | and the ubuntu guys are pestering me to fix libnotify on ppc |
| 16:44.52 | darth_mall | FIX IT! |
| 16:44.56 | Cae | heh |
| 16:45.32 | ChipX86 | and I can't get in to fix it.. |
| 16:46.15 | CIA-11 | g2bridge: 03evan * r583 10documents/suli/body.tex: This is finally turning into something I don't hate |
| 16:48.31 | ChipX86 | I bet it's the new e-mail setup |
| 16:48.39 | Cae | Chip..is cvs1 being wonky right now? |
| 16:48.42 | ChipX86 | I don't know |
| 16:48.45 | ChipX86 | I can't check |
| 16:48.49 | Cae | :\ |
| 16:48.54 | ChipX86 | way too many things are going badly during the first 10 minutes of being awake. |
| 16:49.14 | Cae | *hug* |
| 16:49.38 | ChipX86 | damnit |
| 16:49.49 | ChipX86 | I can't get into the linode to fix the problem if I have no I/O tokens to fix it wiht |
| 16:49.52 | ChipX86 | idiots |
| 16:50.08 | Cae | heh |
| 16:50.28 | Cae | cvs [checkout aborted]: connect to cvs1.sourceforge.net(10.5.1.7):2401 failed: Connection refused |
| 16:50.33 | Cae | that's...not good..hm. |
| 16:55.19 | Cae | great. |
| 16:55.22 | Cae | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:55.44 | nullpuppy | damn |
| 16:56.11 | Cae | how the heck do I get current cvs then.. |
| 17:01.42 | Cae | well. cvs. but I like cvs1.. |
| 17:04.03 | gonkulator | morning |
| 17:04.24 | ChipX86 | this morning *sucks* |
| 17:04.59 | gonkulator | just said it was morning |
| 17:04.59 | Cae | fuck. |
| 17:05.35 | gonkulator | that is another way to put it... |
| 17:05.50 | Cae | ./autogen.sh is supposed to run configure, yes? |
| 17:06.06 | ChipX86 | Cae: yes |
| 17:06.09 | Cae | automake is spitting at me |
| 17:06.11 | ChipX86 | what the hell is going on.. argh |
| 17:06.12 | darth_mall | they don't always |
| 17:06.19 | gonkulator | so later |
| 17:06.24 | Cae | have fun, gonkulator |
| 17:06.31 | gonkulator | later Cae, good lluck |
| 17:07.39 | scanlime | ChipX86: don't you love their 'policy' on IO? :P |
| 17:08.01 | darth_mall | the policy where YOU DON'T GET ANY! |
| 17:08.11 | ChipX86 | scanlime: it makes no sense and I cannot figure out what the problem is here |
| 17:08.20 | scanlime | darth_mall: yes |
| 17:08.37 | nullpuppy | well.. /me notes not to get a linode box if/when he ever goes to get a new host |
| 17:09.01 | ChipX86 | linode is fine, but I don't know what's going on here |
| 17:09.56 | ChipX86 | ah |
| 17:09.58 | nullpuppy | :( |
| 17:09.59 | ChipX86 | it's that stupid antivirus program |
| 17:10.01 | ChipX86 | and it's not dying |
| 17:10.09 | nullpuppy | whihc av? |
| 17:10.14 | ChipX86 | amavisd |
| 17:10.28 | nullpuppy | ah |
| 17:11.04 | scanlime | huh |
| 17:11.32 | ChipX86 | it gobbled up a bunch of memory |
| 17:11.35 | Cae | goddamnit |
| 17:11.36 | ChipX86 | and went crazy |
| 17:11.49 | ChipX86 | and it won't die. :P |
| 17:11.58 | ChipX86 | ah now it died |
| 17:12.34 | ChipX86 | grrr |
| 17:12.51 | ChipX86 | fucking ubuntu guy wants to figure out this problem but never does the changes I tell him to do and test until I repeat myself a few times |
| 17:14.40 | CIA-11 | galago: 03chipx86 * r2101 10notification-daemon/ (ChangeLog src/main.cc): Use the D-BUS bool type instead of the C++ bool type, so that we don't break PPC and AMD64. |
| 17:15.56 | scanlime | but yay for bagels and fruit on tuesdays |
| 17:16.00 | ChipX86 | yep |
| 17:16.03 | ChipX86 | good breakfast |
| 17:16.08 | scanlime | yep |
| 17:16.22 | CIA-11 | galago: 03chipx86 * r2102 10notification-daemon/ (ChangeLog src/main.cc): Fix up a few other data types as well. |
| 17:16.29 | scanlime | the bananas here are so good |
| 17:18.38 | darth_mall | you guys are making me hungry |
| 17:19.10 | scanlime | they run out of half&half really fast around here... |
| 17:19.16 | ChipX86 | ok, now that the only problem left is a couple minor libnotify bugs (which they still need fixed, but they can handle those I think), I'm going to work. |
| 17:19.27 | darth_mall | ChipX86: ^^ |
| 17:20.37 | scanlime | yay? |
| 17:22.08 | darth_mall | only kind of |
| 17:22.22 | darth_mall | I'll be glad not to be dealing with this nonsense anymore (or at least for a while) |
| 17:22.33 | darth_mall | but I doubt I'll have finished the task, which makes me feel terrible |
| 17:22.53 | darth_mall | plus, I've got a lot of stuff to get done this week, and not a lot of time to do it, largely thanks to this friggin' intern program |
| 17:23.10 | darth_mall | it's tempting to skip the presentations tomorrow in lieu of actually getting some work done |
| 17:23.22 | scanlime | you should apply for an internship here next year :) |
| 17:23.39 | darth_mall | scanlime: I'll be graduated next year, I won't likely be looking for an internship |
| 17:23.45 | scanlime | ah, right |
| 17:23.46 | scanlime | cool |
| 17:23.56 | darth_mall | plus, I'm giving some serious thought to heading the other direction ^^ |
| 17:24.13 | scanlime | underwater basket folk dancing? |
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| 17:37.08 | scanlime | uh oh |
| 17:37.11 | scanlime | vmware got slashdotted |
| 17:39.15 | scanlime | hah |
| 17:39.18 | scanlime | gotta love slashdot... |
| 17:39.22 | scanlime | " It's great news. The only problem is that today with enterprise-ready UML [sf.net], Xen [sf.net] et al. we serious computer scientists no longer need VMware being any more open to begin with. You missed the first train so don't beat the dead horse now." |
| 17:39.36 | scanlime | if UML is 'enterprise ready' I'll eat my hat. Linode is proof of that. |
| 17:39.50 | scanlime | it gets the job done most of the time, but isn't anywhere near as reliable as it should be |
| 17:42.42 | darth_mall | that's why I don't read slashdot ^^ |
| 17:42.50 | scanlime | yeah |
| 17:44.33 | scanlime | :) |
| 17:44.57 | darth_mall | guh |
| 17:45.00 | darth_mall | Ben Folds is so good it hurts |
| 17:47.16 | scanlime | it's funny when they say vmware has to 'watch out' because of projects like QEMU and Xen... |
| 17:47.25 | darth_mall | scanlime: watch out! |
| 17:47.31 | scanlime | Xen is really a different ballgame, and QEMU isn't even on our radar |
| 17:47.41 | scanlime | I think the only thing people around here really ever worry about is microsoft |
| 17:48.21 | darth_mall | scanlime: big business always has to beware open source hackers in their garage. if we've learned nothing else from Antitrust, we've learned that |
| 17:48.31 | darth_mall | and that legos make good computer desks |
| 17:48.32 | scanlime | :) |
| 17:48.34 | scanlime | yes! |
| 17:48.37 | scanlime | I want a lego computer desk |
| 17:48.41 | darth_mall | me three |
| 17:49.06 | scanlime | none of these slashdot posters have any clue how vmware works |
| 17:50.53 | Cae | what's a polite way to say "you know, on second thought, no, I don't want to room with you because I really can't stand being around you" |
| 17:52.00 | scanlime | Cae: tell them you think rooming together could be harmful to your beautiful frienship with them |
| 17:52.07 | darth_mall | Cae: you could just stop that sentence right before the "because" |
| 17:52.41 | Cae | how about "no, my parents object to me having male roommates" |
| 17:52.58 | Cae | which is somewhat countered by the fact that ALL of my roommates this summer are male |
| 17:53.00 | darth_mall | hmmm |
| 17:53.13 | darth_mall | if I ever get a piano, I am totally buying a bunch of Ben Folds Five books |
| 17:53.16 | Cae | (roommate's boyfriend is the one I would kill) |
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| 18:01.50 | Sophie197 | buy them a cat, and then tell them you're allergic to their cat. |
| 18:01.56 | darth_mall | lol |
| 18:02.02 | darth_mall | Sophie197: that is such a great idea I could die |
| 18:02.39 | Sophie197 | hope you like spinach |
| 18:02.47 | Sophie197 | I *really* need to go to the store. |
| 18:02.55 | darth_mall | I like spinach a lot |
| 18:03.04 | Sophie197 | yay! |
| 18:03.10 | darth_mall | spinach is yum |
| 18:03.34 | darth_mall | all kinds of things |
| 18:06.39 | Sophie197 | darth_mall: how often do you practice the guitar? |
| 18:07.03 | nullpuppy | horiz scroll works in firefox! |
| 18:07.06 | nullpuppy | yay evdev |
| 18:08.21 | darth_mall | Sophie197: not as much as I should |
| 18:08.39 | darth_mall | I go through fits where for 3 or 4 weeks I play almost every day |
| 18:08.51 | darth_mall | then there'll be another month where I don't touch it but once every week or two |
| 18:08.56 | darth_mall | depends |
| 18:22.45 | scanlime | guh.. not having good luck with this |
| 18:22.50 | ChipX86 | ok, so they gave me a matrox card.. wonder if it works with composite |
| 18:24.23 | ChipX86 | yeah, not really |
| 18:24.39 | ChipX86 | *sigh* I told them exactly what I needed.. good ol' ESS |
| 18:25.17 | ChipX86 | ah well, it'll be useful when I get a third monitor |
| 18:26.59 | scanlime | you need a card with composite? |
| 18:27.17 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 18:27.20 | scanlime | didn't know you were getting a TV in your office ;) |
| 18:27.27 | ChipX86 | the composite extension |
| 18:27.30 | ChipX86 | for xorg |
| 18:27.31 | scanlime | oh |
| 18:27.32 | scanlime | :P |
| 18:27.42 | ChipX86 | I do the screenshots for the linux Workstation and probably upcoming GSX products |
| 18:27.48 | ChipX86 | and we make it all pretty-like with composite |
| 18:28.04 | ChipX86 | but my current card doesn't really want to work anymore, so I told them I needed a geforce card, and they gave me a matrox |
| 18:28.29 | ChipX86 | hmm, I'm reading matrox cards can only use the vesa driver in linux. I hope this is not true. |
| 18:28.32 | scanlime | I still use a wonderful onboard radeon 7000 something |
| 18:28.40 | scanlime | no acceleration, yay |
| 18:28.43 | ChipX86 | ugh :/ |
| 18:29.03 | scanlime | there are a pile of video cards in this desk though.. |
| 18:29.30 | scanlime | two of them |
| 18:29.31 | scanlime | nvidia |
| 18:29.33 | scanlime | not sure if they work |
| 18:29.48 | Cae | *sigh* someone just asked me what the point of try-except statements was |
| 18:30.01 | scanlime | one of them doesn't have a fan, the other one seems to have a fan that's in bad shape |
| 18:30.31 | ChipX86 | you should make a fan out of pinwheels |
| 18:31.56 | scanlime | ChipX86: hmm. Shelly just dropped by and mentioned that Nolan's old machine, in Tony's office, probably has a good video card you could swipe |
| 18:32.05 | ChipX86 | cool |
| 18:32.14 | darth_mall | oooh |
| 18:32.16 | darth_mall | pinwheels |
| 18:32.17 | ChipX86 | what kind? |
| 18:32.22 | scanlime | didn't say |
| 18:32.38 | ChipX86 | are you upstairs or downstairs? |
| 18:32.39 | scanlime | and you're welcome to try these two nvidia cards in my desk |
| 18:32.40 | scanlime | upstairs |
| 18:32.43 | ChipX86 | I haven't seen your offic yet :) |
| 18:32.46 | scanlime | end of the hall |
| 18:32.48 | scanlime | ah :) |
| 18:33.21 | darth_mall | it makes me sad |
| 18:33.31 | scanlime | it's not that interesting yet |
| 18:33.38 | nullpuppy | ChipX86: i got horiz scrolling, and the forward/back buttons working in firefox with my mx1k ;) |
| 18:33.41 | nullpuppy | using evdev |
| 18:34.14 | CIA-11 | g2bridge: 03evan * r585 10documents/suli/body.tex: Expounding on the virtues of python. |
| 18:34.15 | scanlime | nullpuppy: X has evdev support now? |
| 18:34.35 | darth_mall | mx1k can do horizontal scrolling? |
| 18:34.55 | scanlime | yeah |
| 18:34.56 | nullpuppy | yeah, 6.8.2 can wiht patches apparently, i'm using 6.8.99.15 |
| 18:34.59 | nullpuppy | darth_mall: yup :) |
| 18:35.14 | scanlime | darth_mall: the scroll wheel also tilts side to side |
| 18:35.15 | nullpuppy | works beautifully with evdev |
| 18:35.29 | nullpuppy | just need to get the middle thumb button working now |
| 18:35.46 | darth_mall | ok, so they don't go diagonally like apple's new mouse, but they do horizontall |
| 18:35.49 | darth_mall | that's neat |
| 18:35.56 | nullpuppy | yup ;) |
| 18:36.21 | ChipX86 | ok |
| 18:36.28 | ChipX86 | I just walked all around up there and I have no idea where you are |
| 18:36.30 | nullpuppy | well.. i suppose you could make it go diagonally instead of horizontally if you wanted to somehow.. :) |
| 18:36.42 | darth_mall | nullpuppy: that's not what I meant |
| 18:36.49 | nullpuppy | hehe, i know :) |
| 18:36.55 | ChipX86 | you know, I'm just going to use my card for now. It's a good card and I know it works |
| 18:37.30 | scanlime | ChipX86: my name tag thing still doesn't exist.. it's Matt G's office if you know where that is |
| 18:38.24 | ChipX86 | ohh |
| 18:38.24 | ChipX86 | I walked just by it |
| 18:38.24 | ChipX86 | bah |
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| 18:39.34 | ChipX86 | scanlime: I walked right by it and didn't even notice :P |
| 18:39.34 | ChipX86 | trying to figure out how to open this dell |
| 18:39.34 | scanlime | mmkay |
| 18:39.53 | darth_mall | ChipX86: use a hammer |
| 18:39.53 | ChipX86 | I'll be there in a bit |
| 18:39.53 | ChipX86 | darth_mall: tempted |
| 18:39.53 | darth_mall | hammers are useful like that |
| 18:40.05 | ChipX86 | it has a button at the top. I don't know that it's doing anything useful |
| 18:40.13 | scanlime | oh, more video cards |
| 18:40.13 | darth_mall | (hammer) |
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| 18:40.17 | darth_mall | haha |
| 18:40.20 | scanlime | here's a matrox |
| 18:40.26 | scanlime | two ATIs... |
| 18:40.33 | scanlime | three ATIs... |
| 18:40.50 | darth_mall | if there are any that are better than my geforce 2 and have dual out, you should mail me one ^^ |
| 18:41.05 | ChipX86 | can't use ATI :/ |
| 18:41.16 | ChipX86 | silly ati doesn't wnat to do xdamage or composite support |
| 18:41.43 | scanlime | yeah |
| 18:41.47 | scanlime | they were all in a box marked nvidia :( |
| 18:42.04 | scanlime | well, I do have at least two nvidia cards here |
| 18:42.07 | scanlime | plus there's nolan's machine |
| 18:43.42 | ChipX86 | heh kind of figured this out, except I can't open it fully and it's all weird |
| 18:43.45 | ChipX86 | silly dell |
| 18:43.59 | nullpuppy | whoops |
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| 18:47.38 | ChipX86 | ah-ha! |
| 18:47.39 | ChipX86 | ok, coming up |
| 18:54.40 | CIA-11 | g2bridge: 03evan * r586 10documents/suli/body.tex: Edits and spell check. |
| 18:55.45 | scanlime | ChipX86: xembed! |
| 18:56.12 | scanlime | and web browsers |
| 19:03.23 | nullpuppy | ah, perfect |
| 19:03.31 | nullpuppy | forward, back, and tab undo :) |
| 19:03.44 | nullpuppy | s/tab undo/tab close undo/ |
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| 19:08.03 | ChipX86 | scanlime: yep |
| 19:08.12 | ChipX86 | I want to write my documents in a notification bubble |
| 19:08.23 | ChipX86 | the matrox card that ESS gave me is PCI :) |
| 19:08.27 | Cae | heh |
| 19:09.19 | nullpuppy | hmm, tempted to fire up icecast, and go work in the living room |
| 19:09.23 | ChipX86 | I'd be upset about that if not for the fact that I can use it for my 3rd and 4th monitors |
| 19:11.02 | scanlime | ChipX86: haha, nice |
| 19:11.20 | ChipX86 | ESS consists of our best and brightest |
| 19:11.32 | ChipX86 | it stands for Extremely Smart Studs |
| 19:11.36 | scanlime | I'm sure it does |
| 19:11.45 | ChipX86 | yep. |
| 19:11.52 | file[laptop] | anyone an iptables wizard? |
| 19:12.05 | scanlime | ChipX86: what was it you decided MTS stood for a while back? |
| 19:12.29 | ChipX86 | oh, Walter came up with it.. what was it.. |
| 19:12.36 | ChipX86 | hmm |
| 19:12.49 | ChipX86 | can't remember |
| 19:12.56 | Cae | what are all of the purty things required for xchat-gnome? |
| 19:12.59 | ChipX86 | might have to go through logs |
| 19:13.03 | ChipX86 | Cae: libsexy |
| 19:13.27 | ChipX86 | yeah :) |
| 19:13.45 | scanlime | there was SEXX and SEXY |
| 19:14.32 | scanlime | or sexxor |
| 19:14.46 | ChipX86 | :) |
| 19:15.10 | scanlime | but I don't think that even x86 is bloated enough to have an instruction just for that |
| 19:15.15 | Cae | okay, let me put it this way. what are all of the debian package names for everything required for xchat-gnome? :) |
| 19:15.55 | file[laptop] | Cae: that's silly |
| 19:17.16 | ChipX86 | Cae: haha, good joke |
| 19:17.27 | Cae | I hate you all.. :P |
| 19:17.30 | ChipX86 | :( |
| 19:19.24 | *** join/#tacobeam itodd (N=itodd@c-24-60-61-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) |
| 19:19.27 | ChipX86 | itodd!!! |
| 19:19.33 | itodd | chip! :) |
| 19:19.39 | itodd | how are ya buddy? |
| 19:19.45 | file[laptop] | today has been an oddly productive and happy day |
| 19:19.49 | ChipX86 | I'm good :) how are you? |
| 19:19.53 | file[laptop] | hi itodd, whomever you are! |
| 19:20.06 | itodd | i'm good too. just dropping by |
| 19:20.09 | nullpuppy | dude! |
| 19:20.11 | nullpuppy | itodd! |
| 19:20.15 | itodd | i learned that emx owned vmware and i thought of you |
| 19:20.16 | nullpuppy | how's it going man? |
| 19:20.17 | itodd | emc |
| 19:20.28 | itodd | hey nullpuppy, things are going pretty good |
| 19:20.34 | nullpuppy | good, good ;) |
| 19:20.36 | ChipX86 | itodd: yep :) |
| 19:20.40 | itodd | how have you guys been? |
| 19:20.42 | ChipX86 | you should hang out here more |
| 19:20.45 | ChipX86 | we miss you :( |
| 19:20.46 | itodd | i know i should |
| 19:20.51 | nullpuppy | yeah :( |
| 19:20.57 | nullpuppy | i've been good, broke, but good |
| 19:21.01 | itodd | hah |
| 19:21.03 | itodd | i'm broke too |
| 19:21.05 | itodd | but that's ok |
| 19:21.23 | nullpuppy | i barely made this months house payment :( damn payment went up by $80 |
| 19:21.24 | itodd | my fortune cookie said it'll all be worth it |
| 19:21.28 | nullpuppy | hehe |
| 19:21.31 | ChipX86 | nullpuppy: :(( |
| 19:21.38 | itodd | nullpuppy: tht's rough |
| 19:21.43 | nullpuppy | yeah |
| 19:21.48 | itodd | luckily, i'm 24 and still live with my parents haha |
| 19:21.51 | nullpuppy | hehe |
| 19:21.54 | itodd | luckily haha |
| 19:22.01 | nullpuppy | i kinda got my parents house.. tis.. interesting ;) |
| 19:22.41 | nullpuppy | hmm |
| 19:22.41 | itodd | i'm very lucky to not have to worry about a mortgage right now |
| 19:22.48 | nullpuppy | yeah |
| 19:22.58 | file[laptop] | nullpuppy is silly |
| 19:22.59 | itodd | i just quit my part time job that paid my bills |
| 19:23.15 | nullpuppy | the mortgage is still in my moms name, but.. if things go well.. we're probably gonna try to get it in my name after the first of the year |
| 19:23.23 | nullpuppy | ouch |
| 19:24.03 | itodd | but i start another part time job soon. i will work from home again |
| 19:24.39 | nullpuppy | cool |
| 19:24.55 | itodd | chip, how's the job and girl? |
| 19:25.11 | nullpuppy | awww |
| 19:25.14 | nullpuppy | TIM3 crashes in xp |
| 19:25.15 | file[laptop] | working from home is good, and bad |
| 19:25.48 | itodd | file[laptop]: agreed |
| 19:25.59 | itodd | i will work from my office in acton at my non-paying job |
| 19:26.00 | file[laptop] | speaking of which, I should go back to work |
| 19:26.11 | itodd | i think it's important to drive somewhere everyday |
| 19:26.18 | Cae | hey, uh, is xchat-gnome supposed to be able to connect to stuff? |
| 19:26.24 | itodd | it's too easy to mix work and personal stuff when you work from home |
| 19:26.34 | darth_mall | Cae: no, the idea is that you connect to IRC in your mind |
| 19:26.41 | darth_mall | x-g is just a vessel for your own creativity |
| 19:26.51 | Cae | well, it works correctly then :P |
| 19:27.41 | darth_mall | hehe, it's hard to hear music when the speakers are turned off |
| 19:27.48 | itodd | nullpuppy: what are you doing these days? |
| 19:28.21 | darth_mall | killing children for fun and profit |
| 19:28.27 | itodd | haha |
| 19:29.22 | ChipX86 | back |
| 19:29.30 | ChipX86 | itodd: the job is great and so is the girl |
| 19:29.39 | ChipX86 | if you stay in here long enough you'll be able to meet her |
| 19:29.42 | itodd | good to hear |
| 19:29.43 | itodd | hah |
| 19:29.50 | itodd | i will frequent more |
| 19:29.53 | itodd | i know i say it everytime |
| 19:29.59 | itodd | but i'll try harder |
| 19:30.19 | ChipX86 | bbs, getting lunch |
| 19:30.20 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 19:30.24 | darth_mall | don't strain yourself |
| 19:30.25 | itodd | take it easy chip |
| 19:30.35 | itodd | i won't |
| 19:31.20 | Cae | so, uh, xchat-gnome indefinitely attempts to connect to freenode. |
| 19:31.35 | darth_mall | then all is well with the world |
| 19:31.50 | Cae | but it can't connect..at all.. |
| 19:32.16 | nullpuppy | itodd: working at a local pc shop |
| 19:32.24 | nullpuppy | working as a pc tech |
| 19:32.42 | darth_mall | Cae: you might try checking your servlist.conf in ~/.xchat2 |
| 19:32.47 | darth_mall | or whatever that file is |
| 19:33.41 | Cae | it seems to be fine |
| 19:34.19 | darth_mall | you're going to need to get some more information than that |
| 19:34.52 | darth_mall | also, we have an IRC channel, someone in there may have encountered a similar problem |
| 19:35.02 | darth_mall | not that there's that many people in there |
| 19:35.06 | darth_mall | but still |
| 19:37.59 | Cae | it gets kinda annoyed at you if you detach the tab while the progress bar is still going, when it tries to log in |
| 19:38.50 | darth_mall | what's this? |
| 19:39.01 | scanlime | hehe.. sure you're running xchat-gnome? |
| 19:39.15 | darth_mall | that's what I'm wondering |
| 19:39.24 | darth_mall | unless we've moved on from that topic |
| 19:39.25 | Cae | right now I'm just messing with what shows up. |
| 19:39.50 | darth_mall | in x-g? |
| 19:39.53 | scanlime | Cae: you probably compiled the regular gtk frontend only, and you're using that. The binary will be called 'xchat-gnome', and it doesn't have tabs |
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| 19:40.32 | Cae | I'm amused.. *pokes* |
| 19:41.39 | file[laptop] | oh no, pf[laptop]! |
| 19:42.40 | pf[laptop] | yep |
| 19:42.50 | *** join/#tacobeam KeyserS (N=mgazic@63.138.16.130) |
| 19:43.36 | file[laptop] | pf[laptop]: waddup? |
| 19:44.18 | pf[laptop] | not much just finished reformatting my lappy |
| 19:44.18 | Cae | ah, it failed to find python, somehow |
| 19:44.26 | pf[laptop] | first thing to do when you get a new one : |
| 19:44.27 | pf[laptop] | : |
| 19:44.27 | file[laptop] | yay reformat |
| 19:44.32 | Cae | but did not die or admit to errors |
| 19:44.38 | pf[laptop] | need to get used to this keyboard again |
| 19:45.13 | Cae | that's kind of strange. |
| 19:45.52 | darth_mall | Cae: that wouldn't stop it from building x-g or stop x-g from running, I don't think |
| 19:46.13 | Cae | the only thing it spits out is /usr/local/bin/xchat |
| 19:46.30 | darth_mall | the binary is xchat-gnome |
| 19:46.35 | darth_mall | if you don't have that, you're not running xchat-gnome |
| 19:46.46 | Cae | it claims it installed it |
| 19:46.51 | scanlime | make sure it enabled gnome support- you need all the gnome dev packages, plus libglade-dev |
| 19:46.56 | darth_mall | then run xchat-gnome |
| 19:47.01 | darth_mall | if you can't run xchat-gnome, it didn't build xchat-gnome |
| 19:47.17 | darth_mall | it's packaged with fe-gtk, and both get built and installed |
| 19:47.41 | Cae | :P |
| 19:48.02 | Cae | this has been a long day filled with a shitload of compilation problems |
| 19:48.59 | darth_mall | wow |
| 19:49.02 | scanlime | tried to pick up my packages this morning, but they weren't open on time |
| 19:49.06 | darth_mall | I read "office" as "orifice" |
| 19:49.14 | scanlime | hehe |
| 19:50.02 | Cae | darth_mall: that takes talent |
| 19:50.08 | numist | aww, I got outbid on the ][e. oh well |
| 19:50.20 | CIA-11 | spacegrant: 03dkuester * r1624 10mck/utils/init_db.py: STEALTH FILE! |
| 19:50.25 | darth_mall | hehe |
| 19:52.17 | Cae | lurgy: I saw that! |
| 19:52.23 | darth_mall | oh geez |
| 19:52.45 | darth_mall | so Pinky asked me what the kanji for "believe in thyself" or "believe in" was |
| 19:52.46 | scanlime | lurgy: next time you need to put the IRC color code for black-on-black at the beginning of the file name |
| 19:52.52 | darth_mall | so I looked it up and showed it to him |
| 19:53.00 | darth_mall | then I asked him why he wanted to know... |
| 19:53.08 | darth_mall | apparently he's thinking of getting a tattoo... |
| 19:53.12 | scanlime | hehe |
| 19:53.17 | darth_mall | good lord |
| 19:53.24 | darth_mall | getting a kanji tattoo is *so tacky* |
| 19:53.52 | numist | scanlime: nice |
| 19:54.04 | pf[laptop] | ah stupid me calling my program 'test' |
| 19:54.10 | pf[laptop] | I kept typing it and nothing happened |
| 19:54.17 | numist | lol |
| 19:54.35 | numist | ./test test | test > test |
| 19:57.19 | Cae | ChipX86: how do I get libsexy? I'm not awake, so use small words |
| 19:57.45 | darth_mall | check it out, build it, make install |
| 19:57.51 | Cae | where is it |
| 19:58.05 | darth_mall | there's a link to it from the svn instructions on xchat-gnome.navi.cx |
| 19:59.20 | darth_mall | you can also find it through google |
| 19:59.24 | Cae | cruel man, naked INSTALL and README files |
| 20:00.02 | darth_mall | ./autogen.sh; make; sudo make install |
| 20:00.04 | darth_mall | it's not hard |
| 20:00.13 | darth_mall | you might want to specify a prefix so that pkgconfig can find it |
| 20:00.19 | darth_mall | or atleast, that's what I had to do |
| 20:00.37 | scanlime | Cae: if you want documentation, we have a wiki :) |
| 20:00.51 | darth_mall | scanlime: hush. no sense-making from thee! |
| 20:00.57 | Cae | no, darth_mall, it's because every single goddamned thing I've installed today requires shit I don't have on this machine |
| 20:01.14 | Cae | and I HATE debian's renaming of every single fucking package |
| 20:01.16 | Cae | WHY |
| 20:01.27 | Cae | WHY THE FUCK DO YOU DO THAT?! |
| 20:01.35 | scanlime | 'cuz they love you |
| 20:02.32 | Cae | you moved |
| 20:02.39 | darth_mall | that's why I stopped using it ^^ |
| 20:02.52 | Cae | I only have to deal with this machine for two more weeks |
| 20:03.07 | scanlime | darth_mall: xchat-gnome should use the same approach as vmware and openoffice and just make you download a 1.5GB tarball with every dependency you need |
| 20:03.15 | darth_mall | yes! |
| 20:03.23 | darth_mall | I'll talk to purple_cow about it, and we'll do it tonight! |
| 20:03.36 | darth_mall | hmm... should probably make an x-g livecd |
| 20:03.41 | Cae | ungh |
| 20:03.43 | darth_mall | for those folks who don't already have linux installed |
| 20:03.48 | Cae | checking for PACKAGE... configure: error: Package requirements (pango >= 1.4.0, glib-2.0 >= 2.4.0, gtk+-2.0 >= 2.4.0, enchant >= 0.4.0, libxml-2.0) were not met. |
| 20:03.51 | darth_mall | linux is a dependency, right? |
| 20:03.58 | numist | heh |
| 20:04.37 | Cae | this..sucks.. |
| 20:05.01 | Cae | I have all of those dependencies..really..I do..honest.. |
| 20:05.10 | scanlime | and dev packages? |
| 20:06.03 | Cae | yes |
| 20:06.14 | Cae | I have the dev packages for all of them |
| 20:08.18 | scanlime | aw |
| 20:08.22 | scanlime | I was outbid on the C64 power supply |
| 20:08.25 | scanlime | it's at about $10 now.. |
| 20:08.35 | scanlime | for that price I bet I could build a replacment using much better quality parts |
| 20:08.57 | Cae | Chip.. |
| 20:09.07 | ChipX86 | back |
| 20:09.10 | Cae | why won't it just tell me what I don't have? |
| 20:09.16 | ChipX86 | Cae: ? |
| 20:09.19 | ChipX86 | dunno |
| 20:09.24 | ChipX86 | pkg-config sucks in that regard |
| 20:09.25 | Cae | libsexy hates me too. |
| 20:09.29 | ChipX86 | unpossible |
| 20:09.30 | ChipX86 | what's it doing? |
| 20:09.38 | Cae | checking for PACKAGE... configure: error: Package requirements (pango >= 1.4.0, glib-2.0 >= 2.4.0, gtk+-2.0 >= 2.4.0, enchant >= 0.4.0, libxml-2.0) were not met. |
| 20:09.39 | darth_mall | throwing balls of hate at you? |
| 20:09.57 | Cae | from autogen.sh |
| 20:10.07 | ChipX86 | Cae: hrm, it should tell you which package specifically is the problem |
| 20:10.13 | Cae | it doesn't. |
| 20:11.30 | Cae | how about I just install random shit until it works? |
| 20:11.44 | darth_mall | sudo apt-get install * |
| 20:11.44 | numist | lol, when in doubt... install random shit |
| 20:11.46 | darth_mall | ? |
| 20:11.47 | darth_mall | ^^ |
| 20:11.56 | numist | ^^ :) |
| 20:12.25 | Cae | argh |
| 20:12.31 | Cae | ./configure: line 19616: syntax error near unexpected token `1.0' |
| 20:12.31 | Cae | ./configure: line 19616: `GTK_DOC_CHECK(1.0)' |
| 20:12.44 | darth_mall | ooh I had that problem |
| 20:12.49 | darth_mall | install gtkdoc |
| 20:12.57 | Cae | why can't I have ONE thing compile today? |
| 20:13.11 | Cae | what is gtkdoc called in debian? |
| 20:13.21 | Cae | libgtkdoc-4.61sd908 |
| 20:13.23 | Cae | ? |
| 20:13.54 | numist | apt-cache search gtkdoc is the best I can think of |
| 20:13.59 | scanlime | this might compile: |
| 20:14.00 | scanlime | http://navi.cx/~micah/constant.c |
| 20:14.15 | numist | lol |
| 20:14.17 | Cae | I'm gonna guess gtk-doc-tools |
| 20:14.36 | scanlime | ooh, that program even still works |
| 20:14.38 | numist | micah, wtf is the point of the 'man behind the curtain' stuff? |
| 20:14.50 | scanlime | numist: you're supposed to ignore it |
| 20:14.55 | scanlime | micah@micah-lx:~/tmp$ ./constant |
| 20:14.55 | scanlime | 6 * 9 = 42 |
| 20:14.56 | numist | scanlime: but I cant! :( |
| 20:15.01 | scanlime | it's a program that changes the value of a constant in C |
| 20:15.15 | numist | whoa, 54 != 42... |
| 20:15.20 | scanlime | see? |
| 20:15.24 | numist | ... |
| 20:15.32 | scanlime | if you liked that, you'll love beer.c... |
| 20:15.38 | Cae | I like beer.c |
| 20:15.45 | numist | I like beer.c, Ive seen it though |
| 20:15.51 | numist | navi-misc/obfuscated, right? |
| 20:15.51 | Cae | good libsexy |
| 20:15.51 | scanlime | numist: this is similar |
| 20:15.54 | scanlime | yes |
| 20:15.56 | numist | :) |
| 20:16.01 | scanlime | both constant.c and beer.c are self-modifying |
| 20:16.10 | Cae | goddamnit.. |
| 20:16.16 | numist | didnt see constant.c in /obfuscated though |
| 20:16.22 | scanlime | it's not obfuscated |
| 20:16.33 | scanlime | it's just a fun little toy |
| 20:16.35 | Cae | ../libsexy/.libs/libsexy.so: undefined reference to `enchant_broker_list_dicts' |
| 20:16.35 | Cae | collect2: ld returned 1 exit status |
| 20:16.35 | Cae | make[2]: *** [test-icon-entry] Error 1 |
| 20:16.48 | numist | oh I see what you did in constant.c... I really need to wake up |
| 20:16.56 | numist | thats really simple... |
| 20:16.58 | scanlime | yep |
| 20:17.21 | scanlime | relies on the fact that the machine code up to that point never contains '54' |
| 20:17.40 | scanlime | I used to just hardcode the address, but gcc upgrades would break it of course |
| 20:17.44 | numist | I wasnt aware that numbers were kept in memory though, I guess I should have expected that, having done assy though |
| 20:17.56 | scanlime | heh. all your code is kept in memory |
| 20:17.58 | numist | yep |
| 20:18.03 | scanlime | that number appears in a 'push' instruction in the .text segment |
| 20:18.08 | scanlime | that's why it has to unprotect it |
| 20:18.09 | Cae | ChipX86: make it work? |
| 20:18.12 | scanlime | it's originally mapped read-only |
| 20:18.18 | ChipX86 | Cae: too busy to look into anything right now |
| 20:18.23 | numist | so it replaces both the 52 at *i!=54 _and_ the 54 at the printf, right? |
| 20:18.25 | Cae | k.. |
| 20:19.17 | scanlime | numist: no, it only does one replace.. but I forget why it doesn't hit the one in the loop itself |
| 20:19.46 | purple_cow | Cae: you have enchant installed? |
| 20:19.50 | Cae | yes |
| 20:20.08 | scanlime | numist: ah |
| 20:20.12 | numist | :) |
| 20:20.13 | scanlime | numist: take a look at these |
| 20:20.18 | scanlime | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:20.23 | scanlime | that's where it checks in the for loop |
| 20:20.28 | scanlime | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:20.28 | scanlime | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:20.31 | scanlime | that's in printf |
| 20:20.35 | Cae | libenchant1 and libenchant-dev, as debian apparently wants to describe them |
| 20:20.36 | scanlime | and the loop is doing a 32-bit compare |
| 20:20.55 | purple_cow | numist: don't do it! |
| 20:20.56 | Cae | and enchant |
| 20:20.57 | scanlime | so it also relies on the fact that cmpl can do a 32-bit compare on a packed 8-bit operand |
| 20:20.57 | numist | ah hah, so its not actually using 54 there |
| 20:21.04 | purple_cow | Cae: huh |
| 20:21.12 | scanlime | numist: yes it is, it's just 8-bit rather than 32-bit |
| 20:21.22 | scanlime | numist: so when it slides a 32-bit window across main() it never matches |
| 20:21.23 | Cae | which technically doesn't exist, as it only defines the other two |
| 20:21.26 | numist | ah, and your checking the entire int pointer |
| 20:21.29 | numist | right |
| 20:21.32 | scanlime | yes |
| 20:21.32 | numist | totally cool |
| 20:21.36 | scanlime | that's another reason this only works on x86 |
| 20:21.43 | scanlime | unaligned accesses like that are evil most places |
| 20:21.50 | numist | well, I could write one for sun that would work, but it wouldnt be c :P |
| 20:21.52 | scanlime | on x86 they're just slow, but they work |
| 20:22.07 | numist | this is the sort of thing youd have to do on an assembly level if you want it to be always reproducible |
| 20:22.09 | scanlime | oh, you could do this on any platform- you'd just have to make different assumptions |
| 20:22.12 | numist | right |
| 20:22.39 | numist | hehe |
| 20:22.40 | scanlime | beer.c made pretty much the same assumptions |
| 20:22.52 | scanlime | didn't hardcode any addresses, but made assumptions about the kind of instructions the compiler would emit |
| 20:22.55 | darth_mall | beer doesn't make any assumptions. it loves me just the way I am |
| 20:22.59 | scanlime | :) |
| 20:23.09 | purple_cow | darth_mall: when do you get back? |
| 20:23.13 | darth_mall | tonight |
| 20:23.15 | purple_cow | cool |
| 20:23.19 | darth_mall | and tonight I try and move all my stuff out |
| 20:23.25 | darth_mall | it will be fun >< |
| 20:24.25 | Cae | I give up |
| 20:24.36 | darth_mall | Cae: that strikes me as a good idea right now ^^ |
| 20:24.43 | numist | someone send this girl some *binaries* |
| 20:24.51 | itodd | do you guys use gmail? |
| 20:24.59 | numist | itodd: Im pretty sure we all do |
| 20:25.04 | Cae | gaim, libsexy, xchat-gnome, none of them want to play nice with me |
| 20:25.11 | Cae | itodd: yes |
| 20:25.14 | purple_cow | Cae: try xchat-gnome without libsexy? |
| 20:25.20 | Cae | purple_cow: already did |
| 20:25.28 | itodd | i have an idea. probably been thought of before. |
| 20:25.28 | ChipX86 | itodd: yep |
| 20:25.47 | darth_mall | need... water! |
| 20:26.06 | itodd | i want to use gmail for my small business. having @gmail is lame. managing your own server is time consuming and uses resources. |
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| 20:26.48 | itodd | gmailname+something@gmail.com is essentially the same as gmailname@gmail.com |
| 20:26.50 | scanlime | itodd: there are a lot of cheap services that will do mail redirection for you, or you can install postfix and write a .forward file |
| 20:27.04 | itodd | scanline, that's what i'm saying |
| 20:27.25 | gonkulator | wow, its itodd |
| 20:27.38 | itodd | i want to have it automatically forward say todd@chargedsoftware.com to charged2885+todd=chargedsoftware.com |
| 20:27.46 | itodd | @gmail.com |
| 20:27.47 | itodd | heh |
| 20:27.52 | itodd | hi gonkulator |
| 20:30.00 | purple_cow | Cae: of course, the other option is to use something better than debian ;) |
| 20:30.19 | darth_mall | purple_cow: I think this is a work computer ^^ |
| 20:30.33 | Cae | darth_mall: gee, really? |
| 20:30.43 | Cae | N=cae@pixpat.austin.ibm.com |
| 20:30.46 | CIA-11 | spacegrant: 03dkuester * r1625 10mck/utils/init_db.py: STEALTH COMMIT! |
| 20:30.59 | purple_cow | ...so? :) |
| 20:31.13 | Cae | no, Cae needs vodka |
| 20:31.26 | darth_mall | a plan with no drawbacks |
| 20:31.28 | Cae | Cae needs A LOT of vodka |
| 20:32.08 | scanlime | fuck |
| 20:32.19 | darth_mall | doh |
| 20:32.23 | scanlime | why do my fingers do this by themselves? |
| 20:32.26 | purple_cow | ccache is your friend :) |
| 20:32.33 | ChipX86 | scanlime: oh good, it's not just mine |
| 20:32.40 | scanlime | I'm using ccache, luckily |
| 20:32.42 | ChipX86 | nice way to kill a couple hours |
| 20:33.13 | scanlime | hm, looks like ccache is actually helping too |
| 20:33.20 | scanlime | it doesn't usually... |
| 20:33.25 | scanlime | micah@micah-lx:~$ ccache -s |
| 20:33.25 | scanlime | cache hit 1094 |
| 20:33.25 | scanlime | cache miss 12808 |
| 20:33.45 | scanlime | there's generally some small header change that makes the preprocessed source different |
| 20:35.53 | Cae | xchat-gnome is probably looking for some obscure debian dev package that I don't have |
| 20:35.57 | Cae | but I have no idea which one |
| 20:36.47 | purple_cow | Cae: send me the config.log? |
| 20:36.58 | darth_mall | purple_cow, buildmaster! |
| 20:37.04 | darth_mall | ^^ |
| 20:37.10 | Cae | let me stare at it while my brain oozes out of my ears a little longer. |
| 20:37.19 | darth_mall | oozing is healthy |
| 20:37.29 | darth_mall | gets out the bad spirits |
| 20:38.31 | Cae | ./configure: line 27207: AM_GCONF_SOURCE_2: command not found that could be a problem. |
| 20:41.15 | CIA-11 | spacegrant: 03dkuester * r1626 10mck/ (8 files in 7 dirs): hey look i changed a bunch of stuff |
| 20:41.18 | scanlime | hm |
| 20:41.37 | scanlime | udev works a lot better when I dont have hotplug pointing at /bin/true |
| 20:43.22 | Cae | good xchat-gnome... |
| 20:46.36 | Cae | well, x-g automatically crashes as soon as I start it in gdb. |
| 20:46.50 | *** join/#tacobeam ciran (N=ciran@pixpat.austin.ibm.com) |
| 20:47.15 | darth_mall | crashing is a feature |
| 20:47.19 | ChipX86 | ciran! Long time no see! |
| 20:47.20 | ciran | no, it is not. |
| 20:47.22 | ChipX86 | it's been years! |
| 20:47.23 | darth_mall | keeps you on your toes |
| 20:47.32 | ciran | ChipX86: libsexy still hates me. |
| 20:47.34 | ChipX86 | :( |
| 20:47.44 | ChipX86 | enchant dep? |
| 20:47.48 | darth_mall | libsexy seems to have problems with everyone that's not me, purple_cow, or ChipX86 |
| 20:47.58 | ciran | I have libenchant1 and libenchant-dev installed. |
| 20:48.19 | ciran | which are the names debian chose to give to two pieces of the enchant stuff |
| 20:48.26 | ciran | the only two pieces, I might add |
| 20:48.50 | Cae | bogey |
| 20:48.59 | ciran | bogey |
| 20:50.21 | ciran | ciran |
| 20:50.23 | ciran | cae |
| 20:50.26 | Cae | ciran |
| 20:50.27 | Cae | cae |
| 20:50.31 | Cae | chip |
| 20:50.33 | Cae | bogey |
| 20:50.50 | gonkulator | who is this ciran guy and why is everyone wrapped up in him... |
| 20:50.54 | gonkulator | ciran wrap? |
| 20:51.05 | darth_mall | booooo |
| 20:51.10 | ChipX86 | Ciran killed my uncle! |
| 20:51.55 | gonkulator | oh |
| 20:52.01 | gonkulator | s/him/her |
| 20:52.10 | Ciran | extra words that trigger highlighting aren't triggering highlighting |
| 20:52.17 | Cae | Chip |
| 20:52.20 | Cae | chip |
| 20:52.23 | Cae | ChipX86 |
| 20:52.34 | Cae | Chip, say something that has the word "bogey" in it |
| 20:53.01 | Cae | or gonkulator |
| 20:53.13 | gonkulator | bogey |
| 20:53.18 | CIA-11 | g2bridge: 03evan * r587 10documents/suli/body.tex: |
| 20:53.18 | CIA-11 | g2bridge: This takes care of a rough draft of everything except the background and the |
| 20:53.18 | CIA-11 | g2bridge: abstract. |
| 20:53.19 | ChipX86 | smobogeygodey |
| 20:53.23 | Ciran | that highlights |
| 20:53.37 | Cae | gonkulator: again? |
| 20:53.40 | gonkulator | bogey |
| 20:53.46 | Ciran | and now it doesn't |
| 20:53.49 | Ciran | so.. |
| 20:53.53 | gonkulator | bogeyus |
| 20:54.53 | gonkulator | Ciran: bogus wrap |
| 20:55.03 | gonkulator | and what does Ciran mean anyway? |
| 20:55.17 | Cae | nothing, so far as I know |
| 20:55.36 | gonkulator | oh, ok |
| 20:56.01 | ChipX86 | gonkulator: Ciran is Naric backwards |
| 20:56.06 | gonkulator | Centre for International Research and Advisory Networks |
| 20:56.08 | darth_mall | ChipX86 is right |
| 20:56.13 | Ciran | oh holy shit this is ugly |
| 20:56.20 | Ciran | but clearly the colors work correctly |
| 20:56.20 | ChipX86 | which, if you re-arrange the letters, can spell crain |
| 20:56.21 | Ciran | ow.. |
| 20:56.36 | ChipX86 | if you strip off the c, it's rain |
| 20:56.39 | ChipX86 | so Ciran means rain |
| 20:56.44 | darth_mall | haha |
| 20:56.48 | ChipX86 | the Rain in lands without the sea |
| 20:56.51 | purple_cow | Ciran: yeah, i need to change the default text events back to the old xchat defaults :P |
| 20:57.03 | darth_mall | silly zed and his ugly colors |
| 20:57.26 | darth_mall | ChipX86: that's exceedingly clever |
| 20:57.41 | Ciran | okay, the list of extra words you can put in to highlight on appears to only focus on nicks, not messages. except for my nick, where it does parse messages. |
| 20:58.25 | ChipX86 | purple_cow: so now Ubuntu is going to use libnotify for a bunch of stuff, and their freeze is Thursday |
| 20:58.32 | ChipX86 | which means that J5's e-mail couldn't have been timed worse |
| 20:58.35 | ChipX86 | "We need to redo the spec" |
| 21:00.04 | Ciran | timestamps don't appear to be working.. |
| 21:00.11 | *** join/#tacobeam itodd (N=itodd@c-24-60-61-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) |
| 21:00.21 | gonkulator | Ciran: does itodd seem to be working? |
| 21:00.29 | Ciran | itodd never works |
| 21:00.38 | Cae | boo |
| 21:00.41 | nullpuppy | lol |
| 21:00.48 | pfault | yay for compression |
| 21:01.04 | itodd | itodd is here |
| 21:01.36 | itodd | i'm pretending to work |
| 21:01.43 | gonkulator | oh, ok |
| 21:01.48 | itodd | i'm pre-emptively screwing my employer |
| 21:02.04 | gonkulator | that sounds like fun |
| 21:02.07 | itodd | i found an email about firing me after i finish a website |
| 21:02.21 | itodd | so i've been browsing porn at work until i find and secure a new job |
| 21:02.28 | Ciran | LOL |
| 21:02.34 | darth_mall | ok then |
| 21:02.41 | itodd | working overtime too |
| 21:02.47 | Ciran | I..really hope you're kidding |
| 21:02.52 | nullpuppy | lol |
| 21:02.52 | itodd | no i'm not |
| 21:02.54 | itodd | heh |
| 21:02.57 | itodd | i'm dead serious |
| 21:03.17 | itodd | i'm covering my own ass :) |
| 21:03.24 | darth_mall | by watching porn... |
| 21:03.32 | itodd | oh, the porn part |
| 21:03.33 | ChipX86 | itodd: what happened to the other job you had? |
| 21:03.37 | itodd | yea, that's exagerated |
| 21:04.00 | itodd | chip, i'm still with nuclear consultants group. we are about to launch our iodine 131 loading machine |
| 21:04.11 | darth_mall | mm... nucular |
| 21:04.13 | itodd | but lawsuits are eating cash |
| 21:04.13 | ChipX86 | ahhhh |
| 21:04.16 | ChipX86 | :( |
| 21:04.26 | itodd | so i still have the unfortunate need for a part time job |
| 21:04.37 | nullpuppy | :( |
| 21:05.22 | ChipX86 | :( |
| 21:05.28 | itodd | you guys wouldn't believe the stuff that happens here |
| 21:05.28 | ChipX86 | you could be a part-time monkey trainer |
| 21:05.39 | itodd | this company called lupatech is run by a father and son |
| 21:05.46 | Ciran | sounds like wolves |
| 21:05.48 | itodd | who constantly fight |
| 21:06.03 | itodd | it's not mature fighting, it's FUCK YOU YOU FUCKING LOSER |
| 21:06.14 | itodd | screaming at the top of their lungs |
| 21:06.20 | itodd | it's so incredibly unhealthy |
| 21:06.21 | itodd | hehe |
| 21:06.51 | itodd | the owner not once asked me to see an income statement |
| 21:06.57 | numist | itodd: sounds like a tv show |
| 21:07.10 | itodd | numist, i was trying to pitch it to the networks |
| 21:07.22 | itodd | american chopper, except with valves |
| 21:07.37 | itodd | all the son does is surf myspace all day |
| 21:07.59 | ChipX86 | oh yay, we hit slashdot |
| 21:08.02 | numist | lol |
| 21:08.05 | scanlime | hah |
| 21:08.10 | scanlime | ChipX86: you're behind on fun-list :P |
| 21:08.12 | itodd | yea you did, that's where i learned that emc owned you |
| 21:08.23 | darth_mall | you pwned |
| 21:08.37 | darth_mall | s/you/you mean |
| 21:08.45 | darth_mall | oof... having trouble typing |
| 21:08.49 | darth_mall | must be getting tired |
| 21:08.55 | purple_cow | scanlime: so you watched cubic tragedy, right? :) |
| 21:09.00 | itodd | no imean p0wn3d!!!!oneoneeleven111 |
| 21:09.05 | ChipX86 | scanlime: been catching up on my e-mail |
| 21:09.57 | itodd | anyhoot guys, the father and son left |
| 21:10.03 | itodd | they think i'm working til six |
| 21:10.10 | itodd | (the website is done by the way) |
| 21:10.20 | scanlime | purple_cow: yep :) |
| 21:10.28 | itodd | go easy guys |
| 21:10.54 | nullpuppy | haha |
| 21:10.58 | purple_cow | hmm. ChipX86 & JeffM2501 need to watch it :) |
| 21:11.14 | nullpuppy | cubic tragedy? |
| 21:11.46 | JeffM2501 | whowahtwhere? |
| 21:12.26 | purple_cow | http://david.navi.cx/tmp/cubic_tragedy.mov |
| 21:12.39 | purple_cow | another one of the shorts from the siggraph animation festival |
| 21:12.49 | purple_cow | JeffM2501: it will ring true with you |
| 21:12.57 | ChipX86 | "I think that VMWare is finding itself in potential trouble because it is not going to be easy to sustain their financial success with the Open Source projects such as QEMU and Xen againing ground." |
| 21:13.15 | scanlime | isnt' that great? QEMU and Xen :) |
| 21:13.40 | ChipX86 | yep |
| 21:13.44 | scanlime | I mean, never mind that we're stable and really featureful while Xen is something fairly different and QEMU still has trouble keeping up with win95 last I heard... |
| 21:13.47 | pfault | heh |
| 21:13.47 | ChipX86 | ah the naive children |
| 21:13.51 | pfault | qemu is getting pretty good |
| 21:13.54 | ChipX86 | "If it's open source, it must be better!" |
| 21:14.21 | pfault | it would be silly not to consider it a threat |
| 21:14.26 | darth_mall | ChipX86: I had to point this out to scanlime too, so don't feel bad: |
| 21:14.50 | darth_mall | we all know that open source developers in a garage can overthrow corporate giants |
| 21:14.58 | ChipX86 | :( |
| 21:15.05 | ChipX86 | guess you're right... |
| 21:15.06 | darth_mall | if we've learned nothing from Antitrust, we've learned that, and that legos make good computer desks |
| 21:15.09 | ChipX86 | I should quit |
| 21:15.18 | scanlime | pfault: I think right now we're really only worried about MS... |
| 21:15.19 | pfault | well you have to relise ANY software is reproducable |
| 21:15.35 | ChipX86 | pfault: yeah but we have the money and people to do this. The open source projects are several years behind |
| 21:15.37 | nullpuppy | ChipX86: no.. you're suppose to steal all the code and release wild via satellite! |
| 21:15.39 | ChipX86 | even MS is years behind on some stuff |
| 21:15.45 | pfault | so if you have a good idea it's not long before someone copies it |
| 21:16.05 | scanlime | pfault: it's still a long time before someone copies it well |
| 21:16.05 | pfault | well I can say that qemu is more compatible on some things than vmware |
| 21:16.13 | ChipX86 | Xen and QEMU are great, but don't have what we have, won't for a while, and even if a bunch of open source people want to use those instead, it's not going to hurt our market share in IBM, NSA, etc |
| 21:16.25 | pfault | vmware still doesn't run a fraction of the OSes qemu can run |
| 21:16.34 | darth_mall | it doesn't need to, though |
| 21:16.36 | ChipX86 | pfault: how do you know this? |
| 21:16.43 | pfault | by just testing them |
| 21:16.44 | scanlime | pfault: you don't understand out target audience |
| 21:16.49 | scanlime | s/out/our/ |
| 21:16.54 | *** part/#tacobeam Ciran (N=ciran@pixpat.austin.ibm.com) |
| 21:16.55 | pfault | i've told you before solaris will lock up my entire system |
| 21:16.57 | nullpuppy | vmware is a lot more then just workstation |
| 21:17.16 | purple_cow | plan9 was cool, dammit :P |
| 21:17.21 | darth_mall | didn't say it wasn't |
| 21:17.25 | scanlime | we have plan9 around here somewhere... |
| 21:17.32 | pfault | plus vmware still can't boot off a USB disk |
| 21:17.48 | darth_mall | and yet they're still doing quite well, go figure... |
| 21:18.01 | ChipX86 | hmm, I'm pretty sure it can boot off a USB disk |
| 21:18.07 | pfault | it can't |
| 21:18.11 | pfault | unless you have some internal build |
| 21:18.14 | darth_mall | not if the disk is only 1 meg! |
| 21:18.20 | ChipX86 | can't you just add a harddrive to the VM and point it to the /dev/sda node? |
| 21:18.35 | scanlime | some internal build? not us... |
| 21:18.40 | pfault | yes but then it doesn't see the boot sector |
| 21:18.48 | pfault | so no go |
| 21:18.53 | darth_mall | ChipX86, scanlime: obviously vmware is doomed. better get out while the getting is good |
| 21:19.04 | pfault | it just sees it as a data disk |
| 21:19.29 | ChipX86 | hahaha, oh this is great. This guy says we're doomed because AMD and Intel have their new processors and will compete with us |
| 21:19.30 | pfault | only way to do it is if you set up lilo or grub in the VM to do it |
| 21:19.42 | ChipX86 | they don't realize we sit in meetings with them and work together on a lot of the VM stuff they're putting in their chipsets |
| 21:19.58 | purple_cow | no meetings! |
| 21:19.58 | ChipX86 | I love how people talk about things they have no clue about |
| 21:20.01 | scanlime | ChipX86: yeah. it's like saying that operating systems are unnecessary now that new CPUs like the 80386 can do multitasking |
| 21:20.11 | ChipX86 | yep |
| 21:20.34 | pfault | anyway as soon as you guys fix solaris I will buy my copy of WS 5 |
| 21:20.51 | scanlime | I'll make that my top priority, sir |
| 21:20.54 | pfault | yep |
| 21:21.04 | darth_mall | hehehe |
| 21:21.16 | pfault | it doesn't really make much sense it doesn't work though |
| 21:21.41 | Cae | have fun guys :) |
| 21:21.52 | CIA-11 | g2bridge: 03evan * r588 10documents/suli/body.tex: Background on the PDU. |
| 21:22.10 | scanlime | pfault: are you on the beta program? |
| 21:22.12 | gonkulator | darth_mall: who doesn't have a use for vmware? |
| 21:22.22 | pfault | scanlime, no |
| 21:22.46 | ChipX86 | it's actually very easy to get vmware for free or for very cheap |
| 21:22.58 | pfault | crack it |
| 21:22.58 | pfault | :P |
| 21:23.06 | ChipX86 | I mean legally |
| 21:23.08 | darth_mall | gonkulator: probably lots of people |
| 21:23.17 | scanlime | pfault: hm. considering how many solaris-related bugs we have in bugzilla, I think it's a fair bet that it does run in our current development build |
| 21:23.22 | scanlime | but I'm too lazy to try it |
| 21:23.27 | ChipX86 | it does |
| 21:23.37 | ChipX86 | I just don't know how heavily it's worked on |
| 21:23.47 | ChipX86 | but I do hear of people hacking on solaris support for things often enough to know we support it |
| 21:23.53 | pfault | I wonder if anyone fixed the MMX bugs yet |
| 21:23.59 | purple_cow | ChipX86: yeah, but as i said, i'd have to find a use, and seeing as i don't need it immediately, it's not a priority ;) |
| 21:24.06 | ChipX86 | nod |
| 21:24.21 | ChipX86 | I find it real useful for stuff like coding for a horribly unstable new distro (breezy for instance) |
| 21:24.21 | scanlime | pfault: there's a big whiteboard outside that says "THE MMX BUG" on it in big letters |
| 21:24.34 | pfault | you should be able to read the raw MMX data out of the FPU regs before you call emms |
| 21:24.38 | pfault | but on vmware it doesn't let you do that |
| 21:24.41 | pfault | as it would on a real CPU |
| 21:25.20 | purple_cow | ChipX86: yeah, i suppose it would be really handy for fixing that libsexy problem ;) |
| 21:25.29 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 21:25.32 | purple_cow | but i'd really need a better desktop before then |
| 21:25.32 | ChipX86 | I'm going to set one up soonish |
| 21:25.56 | ChipX86 | pfft |
| 21:26.07 | ChipX86 | I wonder why package hasn't moved in 3 days |
| 21:26.23 | purple_cow | can't let it be delivered before you've paid to have it delivered |
| 21:27.32 | ChipX86 | it was paid for on the 4th |
| 21:27.44 | ChipX86 | it moved a bit and is now sitting in NJ |
| 21:28.00 | ChipX86 | ah well, they say it's on time for Friday |
| 21:28.26 | purple_cow | i mean, you paid to have it delivered by a certain day, and they can't let it get there sooner |
| 21:28.35 | ChipX86 | ohh, yeah |
| 21:33.05 | ChipX86 | composite is neat |
| 21:36.00 | darth_mall | man I am running out of motivation |
| 21:36.20 | file[laptop] | cheeky bugger my coworker is... |
| 21:36.28 | file[laptop] | give him a URL to an ISO and he e-mails back |
| 21:36.34 | file[laptop] | 3+ Mbps download! |
| 21:36.35 | file[laptop] | *bow* |
| 21:40.38 | JeffM2501 | that's prety good purple_cow, even our software only has one level of undo :) |
| 21:40.44 | purple_cow | :) |
| 21:40.50 | scanlime | =) |
| 21:40.58 | purple_cow | you can imagine how well it was received at siggraph |
| 21:41.12 | ChipX86 | fyre's kick-ass undo? |
| 21:41.23 | purple_cow | ChipX86: watch the movie! |
| 21:41.25 | numist | uh oh.. winamp is having rendering issues on a classic skin.. this cant be good |
| 21:41.45 | ChipX86 | purple_cow: oh. Need to do that. |
| 21:42.23 | scanlime | what about fyre? |
| 21:42.44 | nullpuppy | purple_cow: awesome video :) |
| 21:42.53 | scanlime | vmware needs continuous snapshotting like fyre's undo :) |
| 21:43.31 | JeffM2501 | ChipX86, it's cute, if you've ever used graphic software of any kind :) |
| 21:44.40 | purple_cow | uhhuh. i think everyone who's used 3d software has made those mistakes :) |
| 21:45.53 | JeffM2501 | I liked the table |
| 21:46.04 | JeffM2501 | the hand in the box going freaky was a bit too much |
| 21:46.13 | JeffM2501 | it was good as it was simple in the start |
| 21:46.29 | JeffM2501 | I would have made her play with trying to fix herslef more |
| 21:48.38 | JeffM2501 | then have her siting in a "profesional" shop waiting to be fixed. |
| 21:49.01 | purple_cow | heh |
| 21:50.22 | darth_mall | ok, need to get back to work |
| 21:50.47 | purple_cow | no work! |
| 21:51.28 | darth_mall | coin operated boy is such a cute song ^^ |
| 21:51.34 | scanlime | yep |
| 21:52.08 | darth_mall | it often reminds me of futurama |
| 21:52.12 | darth_mall | and lucy liu |
| 21:54.08 | scanlime | sweet |
| 21:54.13 | ChipX86 | that video rocks |
| 21:54.17 | scanlime | a vmware core dump *and* a windows STOP error |
| 22:05.23 | gonkulator | here comes Cae |
| 22:06.01 | numist | scanlime: |
| 22:06.03 | numist | 15:05:32 @<mind21_98> [Tue 03:05PM] mooneer@hogwarts:~/cool$ ./constant |
| 22:06.03 | numist | 15:05:32 @<mind21_98> Segmentation fault (core dumped) |
| 22:06.16 | numist | apparently it wont work on BSD |
| 22:06.38 | scanlime | big surprise. it probably lays out memory segments just differently enough that the mprotect won't work |
| 22:06.42 | scanlime | I take shortcuts there, obviously |
| 22:06.58 | pf[laptop] | heh mprotect |
| 22:07.06 | numist | yeah |
| 22:07.20 | darth_mall | scanlime: I forbid you to take anymore shortcuts |
| 22:07.21 | gonkulator | my laptop hard drive sings when I tilt the computer just a little bit |
| 22:07.23 | darth_mall | no more |
| 22:07.42 | scanlime | gonkulator: this isn't on the new ibook is it? |
| 22:07.58 | gonkulator | scanlime: yeah :( |
| 22:08.12 | scanlime | haha |
| 22:08.20 | scanlime | I suppose "I told you so" would be cliche |
| 22:08.30 | gonkulator | well, its not 'dead' |
| 22:08.36 | gonkulator | its just making weird noises |
| 22:08.45 | pf[laptop] | well don't feel bad I have to get a new dvd drive for mine |
| 22:08.57 | darth_mall | weird noises are healthy. babies make them, therefore it's not abnormal in a computer |
| 22:09.04 | scanlime | why do people in this channel still buy ibooks? |
| 22:09.14 | gonkulator | darth_mall: scanlime makes weird noises some times too |
| 22:09.15 | numist | 15:08:01 @<mind21_98> I commented out memprotect and it still crashed |
| 22:09.21 | numist | hrm.. I wonder what it would take to make it work... |
| 22:09.22 | pf[laptop] | I was considering buying one |
| 22:09.37 | scanlime | numist: you probably just need to adjust it for a different page size |
| 22:10.27 | numist | toughbooks are cool, thinkpads are leet, and powerbooks pwn |
| 22:10.29 | ChipX86 | you could run it in a vm! |
| 22:10.42 | darth_mall | ChipX86: vmware supports the Isle of Wight? |
| 22:10.44 | darth_mall | awesome! |
| 22:10.47 | ChipX86 | darth_mall: it does |
| 22:10.53 | ChipX86 | it's one of the lesser knwon WS5 features |
| 22:11.04 | nullpuppy | isle of wight? |
| 22:11.20 | darth_mall | nullpuppy: yup |
| 22:12.22 | nullpuppy | oooh.. is that the island thats for sale? |
| 22:12.36 | nullpuppy | well.. that you mentioned yesterday.. |
| 22:12.49 | darth_mall | that I mentioned? |
| 22:12.54 | purple_cow | time to do something that will make xchat-gnome users love me |
| 22:13.06 | darth_mall | purple_cow: implement mass invites? |
| 22:13.10 | darth_mall | >=) |
| 22:13.17 | scanlime | purple_cow: break source compatibility with glibc? |
| 22:13.22 | nullpuppy | well.. someone mentioned.. i thought it was you... |
| 22:13.25 | darth_mall | make it wondiws only? |
| 22:13.25 | nullpuppy | *shrugs* |
| 22:13.30 | darth_mall | nullpuppy: I mentioned it last week sometime |
| 22:13.46 | nullpuppy | ok, yesterday, last week, same thing ;) |
| 22:16.55 | purple_cow | fix the text events |
| 22:17.02 | darth_mall | purple_cow: that makes me happy ^^ |
| 22:19.49 | numist | scanlime: what gcc command did you use for constants.c? |
| 22:19.50 | numist | 15:18:58 @<mind21_98> [msalem@warrenprov61-131 ~]$ gcc -g -o constant constant.c |
| 22:19.54 | numist | 15:18:58 @<mind21_98> [msalem@warrenprov61-131 ~]$ ./constant |
| 22:19.56 | numist | 15:18:58 @<mind21_98> 6 * 9 = 54 |
| 22:19.58 | scanlime | numist: "make constant" |
| 22:20.03 | numist | ^^ thats what we got on a P4 |
| 22:20.11 | numist | uhm.. got a makefile? :) |
| 22:20.13 | scanlime | no |
| 22:20.21 | scanlime | just using implicit rules |
| 22:20.47 | numist | sorry to hassle.. want to build it meself |
| 22:20.48 | scanlime | if it doesn't work, just disassemble it |
| 22:21.04 | ChipX86 | scanlime: http://vmweb/~christian/wallpaper_ws55.png |
| 22:21.13 | numist | I dont have the binary.. just the source from your link |
| 22:21.28 | numist | or do you mean disassemble, fix, and reassemble :P |
| 22:21.29 | scanlime | numist: disassemble *your binary* and figure out why it doesn't run correctly |
| 22:21.34 | numist | right |
| 22:21.37 | CIA-11 | g2bridge: 03evan * r589 10documents/suli/body.tex: |
| 22:21.37 | CIA-11 | g2bridge: Some finishing touches on the background. I'm running out of steam on this, so |
| 22:21.37 | CIA-11 | g2bridge: maybe I'd better do something else for a while. |
| 22:21.37 | scanlime | ChipX86: hehe |
| 22:21.54 | ChipX86 | I'm not thrilled with the antialiasing on the lines |
| 22:22.10 | scanlime | it's going to depend on the monitor's gamma pretty heavily |
| 22:22.12 | scanlime | looks ok here |
| 22:22.31 | ChipX86 | cool |
| 22:23.40 | ChipX86 | that's about as official as wallpaper get. The ws5.0 ones I did appeared in screenshots, but we don't provide anything officially |
| 22:23.43 | ChipX86 | we should put some on VMTN though |
| 22:24.35 | scanlime | http://vmweb/~micah/images/green-aurora.png |
| 22:24.42 | scanlime | that would make a nice official wallpaper ;) |
| 22:24.54 | ChipX86 | nice |
| 22:24.58 | ChipX86 | but doesn't quite scream "VMWARE!" |
| 22:25.04 | scanlime | aw, sure it does |
| 22:25.22 | scanlime | vmware is embodied perfectly by stochastic gaussian blurs |
| 22:25.45 | ChipX86 | :) |
| 22:26.48 | ChipX86 | aww |
| 22:26.49 | ChipX86 | which? |
| 22:27.27 | ChipX86 | I can make mine public |
| 22:27.40 | ChipX86 | I'm sure scanline can too |
| 22:27.41 | nullpuppy | fscking wireless.. |
| 22:27.44 | ChipX86 | if the company doesn't protest it |
| 22:27.44 | nullpuppy | scanlime's |
| 22:27.45 | ChipX86 | ;) |
| 22:27.46 | nullpuppy | the vmweb :) |
| 22:27.52 | scanlime | ChipX86: no! my fyre wallpaper is muchly proprietary! ;) |
| 22:27.55 | ChipX86 | :) |
| 22:28.19 | scanlime | er.. no scp. I'll put this in gallery |
| 22:28.29 | ChipX86 | scp to sshgate, then to zero, then nuke from sshgate |
| 22:28.34 | ChipX86 | you're not supposed to, but nobody knows |
| 22:28.36 | scanlime | no, I can scp |
| 22:28.39 | scanlime | I just don't want to |
| 22:28.40 | ChipX86 | oh |
| 22:28.43 | scanlime | might as well put thi in gallery |
| 22:28.52 | scanlime | I still don't have an sshgate account, I've been using corkscrew :P |
| 22:28.56 | ChipX86 | oh |
| 22:29.45 | ChipX86 | http://osiris.chipx86.com/art/vmware/wallpaper_ws55.png |
| 22:29.50 | scanlime | http://zero.navi.cx/gallery/fyre/green_aurora |
| 22:31.10 | ChipX86 | awesome, my 65 file commit didn't break the windows build |
| 22:31.26 | ChipX86 | I should get, like, a golden star, or a puppy for that |
| 22:31.34 | scanlime | yep |
| 22:32.08 | nullpuppy | ChipX86: your tape looks kinda wierd |
| 22:32.11 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 22:32.11 | nullpuppy | but otherwise, i like it |
| 22:32.13 | ChipX86 | it needs fine-tuning |
| 22:32.26 | nullpuppy | scanlime's is cool to.. but not very.. vmware-y :) |
| 22:33.22 | ChipX86 | not only does it not render it better, but it's laying out things weird |
| 22:33.48 | scanlime | I've never seen rsvg render anything better than inkscape/sodipodi's renderer |
| 22:34.26 | ChipX86 | tape better |
| 22:34.45 | ChipX86 | not uploaded |
| 22:34.51 | ChipX86 | not going to right away.. wizard bugs :( |
| 22:35.15 | nullpuppy | :( |
| 22:36.32 | purple_cow | ``When you're in an auto accident, do you: A) Calmly wait for police to arrive? B) Flee to your house, grab a sword and wooden mallet, put on medieval protection and tell the police, "I have a thousand years of power"?'' |
| 22:36.56 | nullpuppy | B! |
| 22:37.05 | ChipX86 | B! |
| 22:37.31 | scanlime | ooh, I forgot about beer.py |
| 22:37.57 | nullpuppy | why does that scare me? :) |
| 22:38.53 | scanlime | have you read it? |
| 22:40.43 | nullpuppy | i don;t think so |
| 22:40.46 | nullpuppy | it sounds familiar though |
| 22:40.52 | numist | Ive seen beer.py, yes |
| 22:40.55 | scanlime | same 'obfuscated' directory as beer.c |
| 22:40.59 | nullpuppy | oh, right |
| 22:41.10 | nullpuppy | now i remember |
| 22:41.20 | nullpuppy | well.. i think i've seen beer.c, not .py |
| 22:45.21 | darth_mall | hehe |
| 22:45.23 | darth_mall | beer.py is cool |
| 22:46.27 | CIA-11 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r8796 10xchat-gnome/buildsystem.diff: go back to the old text events, since the new ones are fugly |
| 22:52.42 | CIA-11 | g2bridge: 03evan * r590 10documents/suli/paper.tex: Format footnotes according to NREL style guide. |
| 22:58.41 | purple_cow | cool, bmg is aiming to have the gnome 2.11 overlay ready for public consumption by tomorrow |
| 23:00.01 | darth_mall | yikes |
| 23:00.11 | darth_mall | I guess both of my computers will be broken in the near future ^^ |
| 23:00.19 | purple_cow | :) |
| 23:01.01 | darth_mall | well, I guess it's time to power down and go home |
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| 23:09.02 | *** join/#tacobeam nullpupp1 (n=dustin@c-67-168-57-175.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) |
| 23:09.22 | nullpupp1 | is there a way to kill screen without.. killing screen? :) |
| 23:09.43 | purple_cow | ? |
| 23:09.49 | nullpupp1 | i can still detach it.. but its like.. frozen.. |
| 23:09.55 | nullpupp1 | irssi isn't responding in it... |
| 23:09.55 | ChipX86 | I've had that happen |
| 23:09.59 | purple_cow | tried ctrl+q? |
| 23:10.02 | ChipX86 | I would love it if somebody would tell me the solution |
| 23:10.06 | ChipX86 | purple_cow: that doesn't work for me |
| 23:10.09 | nullpupp1 | nothing |
| 23:10.13 | nullpupp1 | sometimes it recovers |
| 23:10.14 | scanlime | screen escapes the xon/xoff keys |
| 23:10.18 | ChipX86 | it's some special screen ability to freeze the thing inside it |
| 23:10.18 | scanlime | I think it's ^A q |
| 23:10.19 | nullpupp1 | but it doesnt appear to be right onw |
| 23:10.32 | ChipX86 | it's my one frustration with screen |
| 23:10.41 | scanlime | ah |
| 23:10.44 | scanlime | ^Q q |
| 23:11.01 | nullpupp1 | nothing :( |
| 23:11.08 | nullpupp1 | won't even respond to ctrl+z |
| 23:11.15 | ChipX86 | scanlime: I tried everything I could find in the screen help |
| 23:11.18 | ChipX86 | none of it ever fixed it for me |
| 23:11.25 | scanlime | hum |
| 23:11.36 | ChipX86 | I thought maybe it was irssi for a while, but I think mutt did it too |
| 23:11.56 | purple_cow | if you don't want to kill the entire screen, you can always just kill that window... |
| 23:12.20 | nullpupp1 | purple_cow: it still doesn't come back after re-attaching though |
| 23:15.54 | nullpupp1 | and not like.. 5minutes from now while it does .. something |
| 23:18.44 | gonkulator | nasa tv is fun |
| 23:18.50 | gonkulator | its about the only TV I can watch |
| 23:18.57 | ChipX86 | cool |
| 23:19.00 | ChipX86 | I just have a panasonic |
| 23:19.34 | scanlime | best TV evar |
| 23:20.04 | scanlime | when I get around to buying a real TV, it'd make a decent monitor for my C64 |
| 23:20.23 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 23:20.44 | scanlime | guess I get to figure out an alternative power supply for that thing now.. |
| 23:20.46 | scanlime | or bid a little more |
| 23:21.00 | scanlime | still, the original C64 power bricks were really badly designed |
| 23:21.10 | ChipX86 | I want to power my C64 over usb |
| 23:21.12 | scanlime | their +5V "regulator" was a power resistor and a transistor |
| 23:21.21 | scanlime | haha |
| 23:21.39 | scanlime | I'm not sure how much the C64 actually draws, but it's +5v supply is rated at several amps |
| 23:21.42 | scanlime | and it needs 9V AC :( |
| 23:21.43 | ChipX86 | I was looking at USB HD enclosures and saw this one guy that marked one a 4/5 stars, saying he would have given it 5/5, except that he had to plug the enclosure into the wall |
| 23:21.52 | nullpupp1 | still not re-attached |
| 23:21.59 | ChipX86 | he was pissed that he couldn't use USB to power it |
| 23:22.02 | scanlime | aw |
| 23:22.12 | ChipX86 | I felt bad for him, except not really |
| 23:22.21 | nullpupp1 | haha |
| 23:22.33 | ChipX86 | yes :) |
| 23:22.38 | ChipX86 | that would rock so hard |
| 23:22.55 | scanlime | I'm tempted to see if I can build one using parts I already have, since I'm feeling way too broke right now to spend money on electronics |
| 23:23.08 | ChipX86 | nod |
| 23:23.14 | ChipX86 | 6 more days until payday |
| 23:23.18 | scanlime | yay! |
| 23:23.30 | nullpupp1 | yay! |
| 23:23.34 | scanlime | and I don't get to be the outcast for this payday |
| 23:23.58 | nullpuppy | yay! |
| 23:24.05 | nullpuppy | it only took like.. 10 minutes.. but its back! |
| 23:24.31 | ChipX86 | scanlime: that was sad and mean of them :( |
| 23:24.39 | gonkulator | what happened? |
| 23:24.54 | scanlime | hehe |
| 23:25.54 | ChipX86 | gonkulator: it has been decreed that scanlime is a for-free employee |
| 23:26.05 | numist | nice |
| 23:26.22 | scanlime | ChipX86: no, I get to work for free bagels twice a week |
| 23:26.39 | nullpuppy | haha |
| 23:26.40 | ChipX86 | and lunch on Wednesdays |
| 23:26.42 | nullpuppy | yay bagels |
| 23:26.47 | ChipX86 | oohh |
| 23:26.51 | ChipX86 | Thursday is our team picnic |
| 23:26.55 | scanlime | ooh |
| 23:27.33 | gonkulator | oh |
| 23:27.51 | ChipX86 | oohh |
| 23:27.52 | ChipX86 | tomorrow is wraps |
| 23:28.00 | ChipX86 | oohh |
| 23:28.02 | ChipX86 | next week is indian |
| 23:28.04 | nullpuppy | i thought tomorow was wednesday |
| 23:28.07 | scanlime | ! |
| 23:28.10 | ChipX86 | and the next is chinese, and the next is bbq |
| 23:28.31 | nullpuppy | brb |
| 23:28.46 | scanlime | ChipX86: I like wednesdays |
| 23:29.06 | scanlime | purple_cow: string processing, in C! |
| 23:29.21 | ChipX86 | scanlime: yep |
| 23:30.13 | ChipX86 | string processing in C is what separates the men from the goats |
| 23:30.22 | ChipX86 | that and we're just so much better looking |
| 23:31.02 | nullpuppy | nope, no money :( |
| 23:31.13 | gonkulator | bummer |
| 23:33.07 | gonkulator | oh yeah! |
| 23:33.14 | gonkulator | three was stuff I wanted to do |
| 23:33.20 | ChipX86 | three? |
| 23:33.20 | gonkulator | s/three/there/ |
| 23:33.22 | ChipX86 | oh |
| 23:33.27 | ChipX86 | because three is a number |
| 23:33.38 | gonkulator | yes |
| 23:33.41 | ChipX86 | and well, I'm sure you know that |
| 23:33.42 | nullpuppy | i thought 3 was a number |
| 23:33.44 | ChipX86 | but I just thought I'd point it out |
| 23:33.44 | nullpuppy | three is a word |
| 23:33.46 | ChipX86 | yes |
| 23:33.50 | ChipX86 | you're right |
| 23:33.51 | ChipX86 | three is a word |
| 23:33.54 | ChipX86 | it represents a number |
| 23:33.57 | nullpuppy | :) |
| 23:33.57 | ChipX86 | both of which are hard things to do |
| 23:34.07 | nullpuppy | depends on context i think |
| 23:36.36 | nullpuppy | hmm, i think i know what i'll do.. remake my simple little web based task manager thingy i started on a long long time ago |
| 23:36.40 | nullpuppy | thats lost |
| 23:37.23 | gonkulator | nullpuppy: three |
| 23:37.42 | nullpuppy | good answer |
| 23:38.25 | nullpuppy | dammit vnc, stop being so crashhappy :( |
| 23:38.40 | gonkulator | crashhappyvnc! |
| 23:38.43 | gonkulator | dangit... |
| 23:38.47 | gonkulator | myspacebarisbrokenagain |
| 23:38.54 | nullpuppy | haha :/ |
| 23:42.29 | nullpuppy | ok.. need a cool code name |
| 23:43.00 | ChipX86 | Crash Override |
| 23:43.10 | gonkulator | doh |
| 23:43.15 | nullpuppy | haha |
| 23:43.24 | nullpuppy | i might use that sometime... not for this though |
| 23:43.34 | nullpuppy | at least.. not yet |
| 23:46.27 | scanlime | hmm! |
| 23:46.41 | scanlime | I think this USB feature I'm working on is actually doing the right thing |
| 23:47.36 | nullpuppy | that can't be good |
| 23:47.37 | pf[laptop] | yay for wireless |
| 23:47.41 | pf[laptop] | able to irc while you BBQ |
| 23:47.48 | nullpuppy | haha |
| 23:48.09 | pf[laptop] | and have my music going :) |
| 23:51.59 | scanlime | woo. I think this is a good stopping point |
| 23:52.05 | scanlime | will test this more and submit for review in the morning |
| 23:52.31 | ChipX86 | heading home? |
| 23:52.44 | scanlime | yeah. I want to get there before the office closes so I can pick up my packages |
| 23:53.03 | ChipX86 | cool |
| 23:53.33 | gonkulator | ohphusha |
| 23:56.00 | pf[laptop] | time to flip the burgers |
| 23:56.09 | pf[laptop] | flip the burgers in one go |
| 23:56.17 | pf[laptop] | that would be cool |
| 23:56.46 | gonkulator | yarshupaf |
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| 23:59.51 | gonkulator | yay orchid |
