| 00:00.51 | gonkulator | howdy lurgy |
| 00:01.04 | numist | ChipX86: you buying one then? |
| 00:01.27 | ChipX86 | nope |
| 00:01.33 | ChipX86 | maybe hwen it hits $500 |
| 00:01.41 | ChipX86 | but I don't really care too much |
| 00:01.45 | ChipX86 | I just like watching the numbers |
| 00:01.48 | ChipX86 | it amuses me |
| 00:02.14 | numist | you should write code to graph it out dynamically :P |
| 00:02.16 | numist | like munin |
| 00:02.53 | ChipX86 | hah |
| 00:05.59 | pagefault | is the darkmoon faire in town yet? |
| 00:06.26 | ChipX86 | ohh when si that? |
| 00:06.28 | pagefault | they supposedly have cheap booze |
| 00:06.29 | ChipX86 | and what happens there? |
| 00:06.58 | pagefault | http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/underdev/implemented.html |
| 00:07.21 | pagefault | # Many exotic vendors travel with Silas Darkmoon, offering adventurers hard-to-find items from the far corners of Azeroth. |
| 00:07.21 | pagefault | # Players can earn tickets by gathering trade goods for Darkmoon Faire's vendors, which can then be turned in for items and special equipment. |
| 00:07.21 | pagefault | # Strange sets of cards have been broken up and scattered across Azeroth. Players who are lucky enough to collect a complete set of these cards can turn them in at the faire to receive epic items. |
| 00:07.21 | pagefault | # Cheap booze. |
| 00:07.28 | pagefault | a gathering of the exotic from around the world and beyond, Silas Darkmoon has brought together the Darkmoon Faire as a celebration of the wondrous and mysterious found in Azeroth. While the Faire spends most of its time in parts unknown, they do stop from time to time in Mulgore and Elwynn forest. When the faire is on its way, barkers will stop by Orgrimmar and Ironforge to announce its arrival. |
| 00:07.44 | pagefault | Cheap booze. |
| 00:07.45 | pagefault | hehe |
| 00:07.52 | pagefault | Cheap booze. is good |
| 00:16.44 | kergoth | heh. i bought a Two of Portals from one of those card decks for 37g and sold it off for 48g :) |
| 00:16.47 | lurgy | hey gonkulator |
| 00:21.29 | numist | this is funny.. nouvelle outputs with no unnecessary whitespace (making really weird oneline output), and my friend says micah did it to make the filesize smaller |
| 00:23.09 | purple_cow | well, it does make the file size smaller, and it doesn't really help anything to add them... |
| 00:24.28 | numist | purple_cow: readable, stealable html? :P |
| 00:27.28 | lurgy | numist: i don't see how readability is an important consideration in dynamically-generated html :) |
| 00:28.21 | numist | lurgy: for others wishing to be lazy and make their own sites from the same idea |
| 00:30.17 | lurgy | that's important? :) |
| 00:30.32 | lurgy | might it would probably be easier to just use nouvelle itself? |
| 00:30.43 | lurgy | yay, there are some extra words in that sentence.. |
| 00:36.43 | kergoth | hehe |
| 00:37.20 | numist | lurgy: he is unfamiliar with python, and the site backend itself is in php, it just has no rendering code that works |
| 00:37.27 | numist | he rather liked cia.navi.cx though |
| 00:37.51 | numist | you can see where that is going |
| 00:39.00 | lurgy | sounds like a good enough motivation to learn python to me :) |
| 00:39.53 | numist | perhaps... I dont know it either though, and we're both damn busy |
| 00:39.54 | numist | :/ |
| 00:47.52 | lurgy | ^_^ |
| 00:51.16 | purple_cow | rofl |
| 00:51.17 | purple_cow | http://www.flickr.com/photos/telstar/29012853/ |
| 00:57.54 | lurgy | hehehe |
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| 01:09.30 | ChipX86 | home I go |
| 01:23.25 | hardwire | go I home? |
| 01:25.46 | laodamas | ¿I go home? |
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| 02:07.25 | Veight | veight phone home |
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| 02:26.57 | ChipX86 | back home |
| 02:27.24 | numist | yo chippy |
| 02:27.53 | ChipX86 | hey |
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| 02:42.14 | hardwire | evolution needs maps.google.com support |
| 03:10.09 | scanlime | woo |
| 03:10.18 | scanlime | I love Fry's |
| 03:10.32 | scanlime | even more, I love having a Fry's that's pretty much on the way home from work |
| 03:11.17 | scanlime | and they had solder paste for $3/tube. At that price I'm skeptical that it's real solder paste, but I have to try it. |
| 03:12.12 | scanlime | ChipX86: those cookies today were great :) |
| 03:15.21 | purple_cow | numist: the other option is to look at nouvelle's source and see what it generates |
| 03:16.15 | purple_cow | numist: or parse it with a prettifying xml parser |
| 03:16.58 | scanlime | heh. htmltidy exists for a reason |
| 03:17.08 | scanlime | if I cared to make CIA output pretty HTML, I'd run htmltidy on the server side |
| 03:17.13 | scanlime | but that's a lot of CPU that I don't have to spare |
| 03:17.16 | numist | purple_cow: yeah, I have the nouvelle source here locally with my navi-misc checkout, just havent had time to fsck with it |
| 03:17.24 | purple_cow | fuck damnit, fuck! |
| 03:17.26 | scanlime | nouvelle is seriously about 2000 lines of code |
| 03:17.33 | scanlime | just read the whole thing |
| 03:17.59 | scanlime | but I should get some potatoes boiling before futzing with this cable modem much |
| 03:18.22 | numist | oh yeah, so after hearing of nouvelle and looking at the python (not through it) my roommate wants to meet you, scanlime... you're a celebrity :) |
| 03:18.31 | scanlime | uh oh |
| 03:18.36 | scanlime | nouvelle seriously isn't that fancy |
| 03:18.40 | numist | I havent told him where to find you yet :P |
| 03:18.41 | scanlime | it's really useful, but it does almost nothing |
| 03:18.45 | scanlime | oh, good :P |
| 03:18.54 | numist | scanlime: yeah, but it proves that you know more than him about xhtml, python, css, etc etc |
| 03:19.00 | scanlime | I just use nouvelle instead of nevow because it's more portable, and simpler |
| 03:19.03 | scanlime | hah |
| 03:19.16 | scanlime | he wouldn't be the first css newbie that looks to CIA for pointers :P |
| 03:19.17 | numist | I can anways invite him in here :P |
| 03:19.38 | scanlime | CIA doesn't even really have that teriffic a CSS setup.. needs to be more semantic |
| 03:19.42 | numist | scanlime: he say your "dont come to me for html help" sticker and thought 'zomg he's so leet' |
| 03:19.44 | scanlime | it's kind of a half-assed tribute to Plone |
| 03:19.50 | scanlime | haha |
| 03:19.55 | numist | actually, he though "what a prick", but I explained you had other things to do |
| 03:20.00 | scanlime | that's exactly why it's there, I guess... |
| 03:20.10 | scanlime | I've really had a lot of trouble with people bugging me about HTML help |
| 03:20.13 | scanlime | that's why it's there |
| 03:20.24 | numist | yep |
| 03:20.37 | scanlime | but yes.. potatoes, then routers |
| 03:20.39 | scanlime | bbiab |
| 03:22.18 | nullpuppy | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:22.32 | numist | yay@ |
| 03:22.36 | numist | wow, you spent a long time on that |
| 03:22.38 | nullpuppy | just had to upgrade to 6.8.99 instead of 6.2.2 due to a problem with gcc 3.4.4 apparently :) |
| 03:22.41 | nullpuppy | no, not really |
| 03:22.43 | nullpuppy | i had to work :) |
| 03:22.50 | nullpuppy | just got back home |
| 03:23.15 | nullpuppy | so, sweet. gnome is fixed too :) eog displays images like its supposed to again :) |
| 03:23.33 | numist | yay |
| 03:25.23 | nullpuppy | hmm, i wonder if bf2 will run in cedega |
| 03:25.55 | ChipX86 | scanlime: I didn't realize we had cookies :( |
| 03:32.13 | nullpuppy | hrm, friend has an aunt with a couple complete fencing uniforms and suits. damn being broke! :/ |
| 03:32.27 | nullpuppy | might need to ask my boss for a little extra cash... ;) |
| 03:32.31 | numist | nullpuppy: sweet, and damn indeed |
| 03:32.41 | numist | nullpuppy: do bosses generally go for that? |
| 03:33.33 | nullpuppy | well, i haven't really had a chance when i've needed to ask yet... but it's possible :) |
| 03:33.40 | nullpuppy | and they're both sword nuts anyways :) |
| 03:40.02 | nullpuppy | grr |
| 03:42.25 | scanlime | sweeeet |
| 03:42.38 | scanlime | it really is $3 solder paste |
| 03:42.41 | scanlime | rather crappy solder paste, but it works |
| 03:42.47 | scanlime | and it's even lead-free |
| 03:42.49 | scanlime | go RoHS! |
| 03:43.21 | scanlime | this stuff is usually more like $50/tube |
| 03:43.37 | scanlime | it even seems to be no-clean |
| 03:44.20 | scanlime | oh Fry's, how have I lived without thee all this time? |
| 03:45.06 | scanlime | and Chris pointed me toward some cheap Cypress EZUSB boards, which are a whole lot more comfortable to develop with than the chips I've built most of this electro-junk with |
| 03:45.30 | scanlime | ChipX86: I only saw the cookies the second time I went back, they were hidden in some of the pizza boxes |
| 03:45.33 | file[laptop] | yay XFS is working again |
| 03:45.48 | numist | scanlime: I have a request |
| 03:45.54 | scanlime | no |
| 03:46.16 | nullpuppy | lol |
| 03:46.28 | numist | :( |
| 03:46.31 | numist | no? |
| 03:46.36 | scanlime | sure |
| 03:46.45 | numist | can you have cia htmlprettyfy for about 5 minutes? |
| 03:46.50 | numist | my buddy is bugging me |
| 03:46.53 | scanlime | no |
| 03:46.56 | scanlime | I really can't |
| 03:47.03 | numist | ok, Ill tell him he's sol |
| 03:47.07 | scanlime | the code isn't there, and if it was it would really peg the CPU |
| 03:47.14 | scanlime | just tell him to run htmltidy on his own damn machine |
| 03:47.15 | numist | ok |
| 03:48.29 | numist | "but its cpu intensive" :P |
| 03:48.36 | darth_mall | bad scanlime |
| 03:48.40 | darth_mall | acquiesce damn you! |
| 03:48.57 | nullpuppy | numist: tell him "exactly" :) |
| 03:49.17 | numist | :P |
| 03:49.57 | scanlime | hah |
| 03:50.23 | scanlime | numist: is he trying to suck data out of CIA automatically or something, or is he just trying to steal bits of my HTML for another project? |
| 03:50.38 | numist | the latter |
| 03:50.42 | scanlime | if he's trying to get data out of CIA he should *not* be screen-scraping |
| 03:50.43 | numist | its a pretty site :) |
| 03:50.44 | scanlime | mmkay |
| 03:50.54 | numist | lol yes yes i know, you have rss xml feeds and all |
| 03:51.11 | scanlime | and a wonderfully underdocumented XML-RPC API |
| 03:51.32 | numist | just the XML-RPC API? |
| 03:51.46 | scanlime | hehe |
| 03:51.59 | scanlime | damn, I'm still jazzed about this cheap solder paste.. wonder what's in the stuff? looks water-based |
| 03:52.33 | numist | solder paste? |
| 03:52.37 | numist | sounds suspicious |
| 03:52.59 | scanlime | well, this stuff is marketed as a way to do quick repair jobs without a soldering iron, only a lighter |
| 03:53.07 | scanlime | but it's basically the same stuff you use to do real SMT soldering |
| 03:53.29 | ChipX86 | scanlime: did you see the family of ducks in the pond? |
| 03:53.42 | scanlime | I saw two ducks. Are there more? |
| 03:53.53 | scanlime | oh, you mean real ducks not wooden? |
| 03:53.58 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 03:54.03 | scanlime | no, missed them |
| 03:54.09 | ChipX86 | there was a mother and 3 babies |
| 03:54.17 | ChipX86 | not in the area with the wooden ones. In the big pond |
| 03:54.18 | scanlime | cool |
| 03:54.22 | scanlime | I love vmware :) |
| 03:54.35 | ChipX86 | :) |
| 03:54.39 | ChipX86 | me too |
| 03:54.46 | scanlime | I think Chris and I are going to have a lot of fun with USB gadgetry |
| 03:54.46 | ChipX86 | I can't see myself wanting to leave |
| 03:54.58 | darth_mall | so when are you going to get me a job there? |
| 03:54.59 | scanlime | and did I mention the free food? |
| 03:55.04 | ChipX86 | the free food rocks |
| 03:55.08 | scanlime | oh, and I hear paychecks are involved... |
| 03:55.14 | ChipX86 | yep |
| 03:55.19 | ChipX86 | in 3 days! |
| 03:55.25 | scanlime | darth_mall: I'm sure one of us can refer you if you want a job here |
| 03:55.32 | scanlime | ChipX86: I don't get mine until the 15th |
| 03:55.37 | scanlime | but it should be big |
| 03:55.37 | ChipX86 | awww |
| 03:55.39 | ChipX86 | that uscks |
| 03:55.39 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 03:55.43 | ChipX86 | well, taxes will eat up a lot of it |
| 03:55.48 | ChipX86 | it's sad really |
| 03:55.52 | scanlime | prorated for this couple weeks, plus I get a moving bonus |
| 03:55.54 | ChipX86 | but your tax refund will be huge, like mine was |
| 03:56.00 | scanlime | nice |
| 03:56.03 | ChipX86 | the moving bonus is chopped in half because of taxes |
| 03:56.26 | scanlime | darth_mall: no kernel-fu for you? |
| 03:57.55 | darth_mall | hehe... not if you want the kernel to actually work |
| 03:57.55 | scanlime | it's so cool to just browse the source code of a program I've used for so long |
| 03:57.55 | scanlime | even if it does take forever to check out of p5... |
| 03:57.55 | scanlime | er, p4 |
| 03:57.55 | ChipX86 | perforce was sooo slow today |
| 03:57.55 | ChipX86 | all week, really |
| 03:57.59 | scanlime | yeah |
| 03:58.00 | numist | yay perforce |
| 03:58.03 | numist | (yay?) |
| 03:58.06 | ChipX86 | I'm glad we finally have a working jabber server |
| 03:58.07 | darth_mall | so I've decided to do an MST3K theme for my presentation at NREL |
| 03:58.19 | numist | darth_mall: you finish up your work for NREL? |
| 03:58.20 | darth_mall | every slide is going to have Joel's, Tom's, and Crow's sillouettes at the bottom |
| 03:58.26 | darth_mall | numist: couple more weeks |
| 03:58.35 | numist | you're going to be busy, I imagine |
| 03:58.41 | darth_mall | no more than usual |
| 03:58.42 | scanlime | though it looks like I'll mostly be working with bundles of patches over NFS- all of Chris' USB stuff is too experimental to check in, and he doesn't like p4 branches |
| 03:59.07 | numist | scanlime: create a svn repos on your box at work :) |
| 03:59.12 | numist | then merge it in later |
| 03:59.23 | ChipX86 | Chris is an interesting guy |
| 03:59.38 | ChipX86 | I should figure out food |
| 03:59.39 | scanlime | eh, svn is pretty similar to p4.. it'd have the same problems with cherry-picking changes |
| 03:59.41 | scanlime | yeah |
| 03:59.55 | numist | well.. fine, lemme rephrase... |
| 04:00.13 | numist | you can always install x versioning system on your machine and you guys can still work on it and then merge it in... |
| 04:00.15 | ChipX86 | ooh, the new Tripping the Rift |
| 04:00.25 | scanlime | numist: that's what people do |
| 04:00.32 | numist | :) |
| 04:00.43 | scanlime | Chris uses mercurial, plus a couple of his own tools |
| 04:00.54 | numist | cool |
| 04:01.29 | scanlime | oh, I was going to cook potatoes, wasn't I... |
| 04:02.26 | ChipX86 | heh |
| 04:02.31 | ChipX86 | I should go to Frys |
| 04:02.42 | nullpuppy | the fry's we have up here sucks |
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| 04:07.51 | ChipX86 | Six sounds different |
| 04:08.20 | nullpuppy | good or bad different? |
| 04:08.29 | ChipX86 | different actress. Not sure. |
| 04:08.37 | darth_mall | grr |
| 04:11.15 | purple_cow | what is this "don't come to be for html help" thing? |
| 04:12.35 | darth_mall | what is what now? |
| 04:13.11 | purple_cow | something i saw in the backlog |
| 04:16.22 | numist | purple_cow: its on cia.navi.cx |
| 04:16.31 | numist | apparently lots of people were pollinc micah for html help |
| 04:16.59 | darth_mall | scanlime: what's a <br> do? |
| 04:17.24 | kergoth | hehe |
| 04:17.32 | kergoth | bad darth_mall! |
| 04:17.37 | purple_cow | hmm...where? |
| 04:17.37 | darth_mall | I know =( |
| 04:17.42 | numist | omg I didnt know you could do <br>, that makes my life so much easier now |
| 04:17.55 | darth_mall | kergoth: but I'm always bad |
| 04:17.59 | darth_mall | so you ought to be used to it by now |
| 04:18.06 | kergoth | well yeah, but still |
| 04:18.23 | numist | hrm... sammitch |
| 04:18.35 | kergoth | i should sleep early tonight since i need to be up for my interview |
| 04:18.38 | kergoth | hmm |
| 04:20.48 | scanlime | woo neat, my rent is lower than I thought it was |
| 04:20.54 | scanlime | forgot to figure in an extra discount |
| 04:20.56 | ChipX86 | :) |
| 04:21.05 | scanlime | I paid too much for my first partial-month, so I get a credit toward august |
| 04:21.53 | numist | dang |
| 04:22.02 | scanlime | purple_cow: it's in the FAQ, I think |
| 04:22.40 | scanlime | the way my luck has been going so far today, maybe I plug in this cable modem and my service is already active :) |
| 04:22.54 | numist | scanlime: comcast? :/ |
| 04:29.56 | scanlime | heh, yeah. impossible, huh? |
| 04:30.08 | ChipX86 | a year later.. |
| 04:30.31 | numist | scanlime: Im more surprised that theyre letting you do it yourself... did you win that argument? |
| 04:30.43 | scanlime | no, they aren't letting me do it myself |
| 04:30.48 | scanlime | a guy comes out friday morning |
| 04:31.06 | scanlime | but I'm not really sure what the guy's going to do if my cable modem's already connected |
| 04:31.25 | kergoth | hehe |
| 04:31.45 | scanlime | anyway, bbl.. need this laptop to futz with the modem |
| 04:34.40 | numist | scanlime: Ill tell you what he'll do... charge you an installation fee and leave |
| 04:41.10 | ChipX86 | Six really doesn't seem like the Six we've come to love |
| 04:43.36 | nullpuppy | :( |
| 04:50.56 | scanlime | numist: nah, looks like there's still nothing connected to my cable jack |
| 04:51.15 | scanlime | I bet the guy just needs to swap out a filter in the cable box for this floor |
| 04:51.25 | scanlime | but for some reason I need to be home for this :P |
| 04:51.43 | purple_cow | scanlime: well, he'll plug in your cable modem with super coax |
| 04:52.05 | scanlime | ooh.. 'cuz the cheap coax I had in the closet isn't good enough, right? |
| 04:52.20 | purple_cow | exactly |
| 04:52.25 | purple_cow | i love those little bits that they use |
| 04:52.28 | purple_cow | they're magnificent |
| 04:52.34 | scanlime | this is a very no-frills cable modem |
| 04:52.43 | scanlime | it has a web interface of some sort, but they don't even mention it in the manual |
| 04:52.48 | scanlime | and they don't give you the password for it |
| 04:52.50 | scanlime | so it's kinda useless |
| 04:53.07 | numist | scanlime: google will probably tell you the default password (Im guessing) |
| 04:53.12 | purple_cow | it probably just tells you things like line discipline |
| 04:53.15 | scanlime | yeah |
| 04:53.22 | scanlime | but at least I can stop using the silly airport :) |
| 04:53.34 | scanlime | I found a wrt54g discounted to the same price as their non-wireless NAT boxes |
| 04:53.37 | purple_cow | i've never seen a cable modem that really had options |
| 04:53.42 | purple_cow | scanlime: cool |
| 04:54.11 | scanlime | so.. I'll have 802.11g later when I need it, and it's hackable in case I want to run some services on there |
| 04:54.16 | scanlime | but then, I have warzok for stuff like that |
| 04:54.36 | purple_cow | works smoother than the airport ever did |
| 04:54.43 | scanlime | nod |
| 04:54.55 | scanlime | that airport was an overpriced 1st generation kludged-together piece of crap |
| 04:55.07 | purple_cow | heh |
| 04:55.11 | scanlime | basically a 286 single board computer and an orinoco card in a fancy box |
| 04:55.13 | purple_cow | at least it was a 1st generation ;) |
| 04:55.31 | purple_cow | if you had one of the snows, we would have had a wap54g a year ago ;) |
| 04:55.37 | scanlime | I got so sick of that silly java app I had to use to update its settings |
| 04:55.43 | scanlime | haha, yeah |
| 04:55.44 | scanlime | kerpop! |
| 04:56.25 | scanlime | but man.. back when apple was really the only game out there for consumer wireless hardware, they charged sooo much money for everything |
| 04:56.29 | scanlime | hiya lurgy |
| 04:56.51 | lurgy | scanlime: how's work treating you? |
| 04:56.56 | scanlime | quite good |
| 04:56.58 | purple_cow | lurgy: yessir |
| 04:57.05 | lurgy | :) |
| 04:57.07 | lurgy | glad to hear it |
| 04:57.19 | purple_cow | ooh, this is a song i haven't heard |
| 04:57.24 | purple_cow | hurray for having all of this album now |
| 04:58.07 | lurgy | umm.. |
| 04:58.25 | lurgy | some random girl who may well be my sister's friend added me as a friend on facebook |
| 04:58.31 | lurgy | or maybe not |
| 04:58.36 | lurgy | i have no idea.. |
| 04:59.06 | lurgy | that's kind of creepy |
| 04:59.09 | lurgy | facebook is kind of creepy |
| 04:59.10 | purple_cow | hmm, facebook |
| 04:59.29 | slimspace | hey everyone |
| 04:59.44 | lurgy | morning slimspace |
| 04:59.46 | purple_cow | hey look, what a surprise, nothing new |
| 05:00.02 | lurgy | that's all i had |
| 05:00.05 | lurgy | and go figure |
| 05:00.10 | lurgy | it was kind of weird ^_^ |
| 05:01.19 | lurgy | s/kind of// |
| 05:01.25 | ChipX86 | I think libnotify/notification-daemon are ready for their first release, more or less |
| 05:02.38 | purple_cow | ChipX86: yay! |
| 05:03.00 | ChipX86 | the ubuntu and fedora guys are yelling at me daily now |
| 05:03.10 | lurgy | hehe |
| 05:04.28 | ChipX86 | must test with d-bus 0.3x |
| 05:04.42 | CIA-11 | galago: 03chipx86 * r2069 10notification-daemon/ (ChangeLog Makefile.am): Pass make distcheck. |
| 05:04.58 | ChipX86 | hurray for VMs |
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| 05:05.34 | scanlime | heh. when you use vmware at home, do you have to request something special or do you just send yourself an e.x.p build? |
| 05:05.47 | ChipX86 | I send myself an e.x.p build |
| 05:05.55 | scanlime | :) |
| 05:06.08 | scanlime | that would rock |
| 05:06.15 | scanlime | especially if it had SAN support, and I had a SAN |
| 05:06.21 | ChipX86 | scanlime: yeah, because it worked well for our e-mail and jabber.... |
| 05:06.30 | scanlime | haha, is that what broke it? |
| 05:06.38 | ChipX86 | it's the one common link ;) |
| 05:06.45 | ChipX86 | also, it was RH 7.2 |
| 05:06.51 | scanlime | I guess there's a reason the ESX team is a lot more stressed out than hosted ;) |
| 05:06.53 | purple_cow | i thought your IT people were the common link |
| 05:06.59 | ChipX86 | scanlime: there are lots of reasons |
| 05:07.01 | ChipX86 | purple_cow: that too |
| 05:07.04 | ChipX86 | it's so funny |
| 05:07.14 | ChipX86 | a couple of other guys made a new IRC and jabber set of services |
| 05:07.20 | ChipX86 | and it actually works |
| 05:07.29 | scanlime | and they announced it publically today |
| 05:07.42 | ChipX86 | whereas ops was saying, "Jabber isn't designed to scale past a couple dozen people. It's not our fault." |
| 05:10.02 | scanlime | I hope all the crazy ideas Chris and I were cooking up for VMware's USB support actually make it into a product |
| 05:10.36 | scanlime | (sshhh... don't tell anyone VMware has USB support...) |
| 05:11.06 | ChipX86 | okay, I won't tell any of the people who have been using it for a couple of releases |
| 05:11.14 | scanlime | good |
| 05:11.29 | scanlime | I don't think any of our competitors have picked up on it yet... |
| 05:12.00 | ChipX86 | heh |
| 05:12.18 | scanlime | ooh, lists of default passwords |
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| 05:12.52 | scanlime | then any 31337 h4x0r with a ham radio could remotely reboot it, if its batteries last longer than a couple hours |
| 05:14.45 | purple_cow | scanlime: your logic is flawed |
| 05:14.54 | scanlime | oh? |
| 05:15.02 | purple_cow | i doubt cx will fly longer than it takes to get from the top of the office tower to the ground... |
| 05:15.12 | purple_cow | and i'm guessing it takes longer to reboot than that |
| 05:15.20 | scanlime | yes, but just imagine the security risks it would be under during that time |
| 05:15.39 | scanlime | well, this is a low-level reboot- the flight computer doesn't even have to be on |
| 05:15.45 | scanlime | so it could happen within a couple ms |
| 05:15.46 | purple_cow | ahh |
| 05:15.50 | scanlime | but nothing interesting would be turned on |
| 05:16.16 | scanlime | so.. worst case they turn off a couple relays |
| 05:16.21 | scanlime | it saves a little power on the way down |
| 05:17.08 | scanlime | or, they could turn the transmitter way up and expose the whole egg drop crowd to radio waves which are known to the state of california to cause cancer, birth defects, and other reproductive harm. |
| 05:20.18 | file[laptop] | you're a wealth of information |
| 05:20.39 | CIA-11 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r8751 10xchat-gnome/fe-gnome/dcc-window.c: Hi HostingGeek! |
| 05:27.25 | CIA-11 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r8752 10xchat-gnome/fe-gnome/preferences-dialog.glade: force numeric entry on the spin buttons in the dcc prefs |
| 05:33.40 | scanlime | mmm.. olive oil and basil potatoes |
| 05:33.50 | scanlime | hmm, and more cheese than usual |
| 05:34.08 | Veight | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:34.21 | Veight | gryphon glitch and these guys are in thrall's chamber |
| 05:34.22 | Veight | http://img205.imageshack.us/my.php?image=griffy20bi.jpg |
| 05:36.03 | scanlime | is the image shack anything like the love shack? |
| 05:36.47 | purple_cow | no, it's crappy |
| 05:36.48 | kergoth | gah, now that song is stuck in my head |
| 05:37.00 | scanlime | me too |
| 05:37.12 | purple_cow | hehe |
| 05:38.24 | scanlime | Veight: hurry up, and bring your juke box money! |
| 05:38.49 | scanlime | love shack (baby) love shack! |
| 05:39.37 | scanlime | 'box thing'? you mean the AUTOMATED PHONOGRAPH? |
| 05:39.42 | Veight | lol |
| 05:39.59 | scanlime | wearin' next to nothin 'cuz it's hot as an oven! |
| 05:40.20 | scanlime | fun-ky little shack! |
| 05:40.46 | purple_cow | hehehe |
| 05:41.21 | scanlime | I don't know why people ever use potato flakes when it's this easy |
| 05:41.36 | purple_cow | because they're scared of potatoes |
| 05:41.40 | scanlime | prolly |
| 05:42.01 | Veight | i dont know why people ever go herbalism when you can sell herbs for so much money on the ah |
| 05:42.02 | scanlime | they can be scary... |
| 05:42.35 | scanlime | purple_cow: it's really funny coming to california and confronting people's stereotypes about coloradans |
| 05:42.58 | scanlime | everybody in colorado skis, and people in colorado own guns 'cuz it's close to texas |
| 05:43.07 | purple_cow | why confront them when you can hyperbole them? |
| 05:43.15 | scanlime | hehe |
| 05:43.25 | scanlime | I need to play with that more |
| 05:43.34 | purple_cow | walk around in a cowboy hat asking where you can park your horse |
| 05:43.39 | scanlime | "Oh yes, where I come from there aren't any roads.. you just ski to work and back" |
| 05:43.41 | scanlime | hehe |
| 05:43.52 | kergoth | hehe |
| 05:43.58 | scanlime | "I ski 20 miles, up hill each way, in the snow..." |
| 05:45.35 | purple_cow | "what about in the summer?" "summer?" |
| 05:45.42 | scanlime | hehe |
| 05:45.54 | scanlime | some people seemed a little surprised that it was getting to 104 degrees where I'm from |
| 05:46.29 | scanlime | it's nice having a boss that's also a CU alum |
| 05:46.34 | kergoth | hehe. summer. In minnesota, there are two seasons. winter, and road construction. |
| 05:47.41 | scanlime | ha |
| 05:49.47 | scanlime | who's it with? |
| 05:49.56 | kergoth | http://seeker.dice.com/jobsearch/servlet/JobSearch?op=101&dockey=xml/e/b/eb1b615258c9706ef2d8b4657328cfb2@activejobs0&c=1&source=1 |
| 05:50.23 | kergoth | pays less than i made at ti, but it looks easy as hell, its local, and my expenses are damn low right now anyway :) |
| 05:51.02 | scanlime | looks suspiciously like a sysadmin job |
| 05:51.11 | ChipX86 | kergoth would make a great BOFH |
| 05:51.14 | ChipX86 | damn car alarm |
| 05:51.24 | kergoth | hehe |
| 05:51.38 | kergoth | i'd have way too much fun as a sysadmin |
| 05:51.54 | scanlime | psdoom deployed across the entire company LAN! |
| 05:52.14 | kergoth | hehe |
| 05:52.51 | kergoth | "so you cant read the manual, can you... *drops a pile of porn into the mbox and reports the offense to the proper channels*" |
| 05:53.15 | scanlime | you need a BOFH calendar |
| 05:53.19 | scanlime | each page would be a personal goal for the day |
| 05:53.22 | kergoth | haha |
| 05:53.42 | CIA-11 | galago: 03chipx86 * r2070 10libnotify/ (ChangeLog libnotify/notify.c tests/test-animation.c): |
| 05:53.43 | CIA-11 | galago: - Flush the D-BUS connection queue on uninit so that messages go through and so we don't trigger this ugly little warning on D-BUS 0.3x. |
| 05:53.43 | CIA-11 | galago: - Fix a compiler warning on gcc4. |
| 05:55.11 | kergoth | hehe, yay bofh excuses |
| 05:55.14 | kergoth | "CPU radiator broken" |
| 05:56.08 | kergoth | haha, "greenpeace free'd the mallocs" |
| 05:56.31 | CIA-11 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r8753 10xchat-gnome/fe-gnome/dcc-accept.glade: add a dcc accept dialog |
| 05:57.53 | CIA-11 | galago: 03chipx86 * r2071 10libnotify/ (ChangeLog libnotify/notify.c): Disable animation support on D-BUS 0.3x, since arrays of arrays of a type seems broken. |
| 06:01.19 | ChipX86 | hmm |
| 06:01.41 | ChipX86 | normalize a boolean into a string... "1" and "0" or "true" and "false" ? |
| 06:01.44 | ChipX86 | when being passed over the wire |
| 06:04.42 | purple_cow | how fat a wire? :) |
| 06:04.53 | purple_cow | i'd do "true" and "false" if it's a string |
| 06:05.19 | ChipX86 | ok |
| 06:05.22 | sbahra | "true" and "false" is more common. |
| 06:06.14 | purple_cow | imo it's immediately obvious what it means, whereas "0" and "1" are more ambiguous |
| 06:06.30 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 06:10.47 | CIA-11 | galago: 03chipx86 * r2072 10libnotify/ (ChangeLog libnotify/notify.c libnotify/notify.h): Support setting boolean hints. |
| 06:15.11 | gonkulator | purple_cow: I don't suppose I could buy about 200-300 feet of Cat5 from you? |
| 06:15.47 | purple_cow | i don't think we have that much left |
| 06:15.57 | gonkulator | hmm.... ok |
| 06:16.10 | gonkulator | any recomendations as to where to get a goodly sized spool? |
| 06:16.24 | purple_cow | we will have a lot of cables available when we move out, some of which will be up for grabs |
| 06:16.27 | purple_cow | gonkulator: froogle.com |
| 06:16.34 | gonkulator | when will you move out? |
| 06:16.46 | purple_cow | mid august |
| 06:18.58 | gonkulator | alright |
| 06:24.21 | nullpuppy | sweet. Tycho and Gabe have met Jhonen Vasquez a few times (creator of Zim!) .. they have a WoW warlock scetch by him on pa right now :) |
| 06:24.27 | nullpuppy | erm.. *sketch ... |
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| 06:26.28 | gonkulator | guh, shipping == expensive |
| 06:29.12 | purple_cow | hehe, i like the elf chickie mage sorceress whatever |
| 06:30.28 | nullpuppy | hehe |
| 06:51.49 | ChipX86 | I think I'll make this 0.2.0 |
| 06:52.06 | ChipX86 | it may not be perfect, but *shrug* |
| 06:52.15 | ChipX86 | orr 0.3.0 |
| 06:53.06 | CIA-11 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r8754 10xchat-gnome/fe-gnome/ (dcc-accept.glade dcc-window.c): present the accept dialog to the user if prefs.autodccsend is off |
| 06:59.54 | scanlime | http://www.sveasoft.com/content/view/3/1/ |
| 06:59.54 | scanlime | handy |
| 07:00.36 | ChipX86 | yay, Army of Darkness Thursday |
| 07:01.18 | numist | yay |
| 07:06.16 | CIA-11 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r8755 10xchat-gnome/fe-gnome/ (ChangeLog ROADMAP fe-gnome.c): add some FIXMEs to fe-gnome.c re: dcc chat, update CL and RM |
| 07:07.26 | purple_cow | hmmm |
| 07:07.28 | purple_cow | hmmmmmmmmm |
| 07:07.53 | rioter | whats that boy, trouble at the old well |
| 07:08.13 | purple_cow | rioter: yes, off you go |
| 07:08.14 | CIA-11 | galago: 03chipx86 * r2073 10notification-daemon/ (ChangeLog src/main.cc): Updated the server capabilities that are returned. |
| 07:09.38 | scanlime | hah |
| 07:09.46 | scanlime | the wrt54g has the same AC adaptor as the NSLU2 |
| 07:10.36 | purple_cow | imagine my surprise |
| 07:10.59 | purple_cow | though on a serious hand, it's nice that they're not just using <insert random voltage here> |
| 07:12.36 | purple_cow | you could go around sharing your GPRS link! |
| 07:12.46 | scanlime | yup |
| 07:12.58 | scanlime | you laugh, but some guy got on slashdot for doing exactly that :P |
| 07:13.02 | scanlime | it was really funny |
| 07:13.13 | scanlime | he bought this crazy industrial embedded PC for it and everything |
| 07:14.03 | scanlime | wtf... now my 802.11 card isn't working at all |
| 07:14.15 | purple_cow | scanlime: that doesn't surprise me at all :P |
| 07:14.37 | scanlime | nod |
| 07:15.28 | scanlime | if I wanted to be really cool, I'd share my GPRS link over 802.11, park real close to the building I work in, then stick an 802.11 PCI card in my linux box there |
| 07:15.36 | scanlime | then I could use my GPRS connection over 802.11 instead of the company's LAN |
| 07:15.42 | scanlime | it might actually be faster sometimes... |
| 07:15.48 | CIA-11 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r8756 10xchat-gnome/fe-gnome/ (ChangeLog ROADMAP): move things around |
| 07:16.15 | scanlime | hmm |
| 07:16.26 | scanlime | I'm a tiny bit curious how well vmware's USB support handles modem devices :) |
| 07:18.29 | scanlime | sigh.. what use is a wireless router when my laptop is this much of a POS? |
| 07:18.47 | CIA-11 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r8757 10xchat-gnome/buildsystem.diff: bump |
| 07:19.10 | purple_cow | scanlime: well, you're getting a big paycheck soon, right? ;) |
| 07:19.22 | scanlime | nod |
| 07:22.44 | scanlime | bah. it got late again |
| 07:22.51 | scanlime | more to the point, I got tired again |
| 07:22.57 | scanlime | and I still have a big pile of email... |
| 07:26.12 | scanlime | ChipX86: poke |
| 07:26.16 | ChipX86 | eep |
| 07:26.19 | purple_cow | huh |
| 07:26.23 | purple_cow | i never tagged xchat-gnome 0.4 |
| 07:26.39 | scanlime | ChipX86: interested in going to LA with me to hang out with purple_cow and others? |
| 07:26.51 | ChipX86 | Jamie might be coming. I'm not sure yet |
| 07:26.56 | scanlime | k |
| 07:27.04 | ChipX86 | when would it be, and until when? |
| 07:27.42 | scanlime | prolly from 9 AM or so saturday to some time sunday afternoon- we have hotel space saturday night |
| 07:28.03 | ChipX86 | cool |
| 07:28.08 | purple_cow | whereby "hotel space" he means "probably a floor, bring a pillow" |
| 07:28.12 | ChipX86 | that sounds fun |
| 07:28.13 | scanlime | yeah |
| 07:28.29 | ChipX86 | who else is coming? |
| 07:28.42 | ChipX86 | I'll talk to Jamie tomorrow and find out what's going on |
| 07:29.24 | purple_cow | ChipX86: mostly #bzflag folks |
| 07:30.36 | CIA-11 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r8758 10xchat-gnome/buildsystem.diff: add generate_header to the perl plugin's EXTRA_DIST. This doesn't fix all the distcheck problems, but it comes closer |
| 07:58.39 | purple_cow | 'night |
| 08:54.29 | CIA-11 | galago: 03chipx86 * r2074 10libnotify/ (6 files in 3 dirs): Don't send all hint values as strings. Send as integers, booleans, or strings, depending on what the user set. |
| 08:55.36 | CIA-11 | galago: 03chipx86 * r2075 10notification-daemon/ (7 files in 2 dirs): Grab the hints and put them into a Hint class, so we can get them by data type. |
| 08:57.22 | CIA-11 | galago: 03chipx86 * r2076 10libnotify/ChangeLog: Forgot this ChangeLog entry.. Basically, we're releasing. |
| 08:58.06 | CIA-11 | galago: 03chipx86 * r2077 10libnotify/NEWS: Tyop. |
| 08:58.36 | CIA-11 | galago: 03chipx86 * r2078 10notification-daemon/ (ChangeLog NEWS configure.ac): Bump to version 0.2.0. |
| 08:58.53 | purple_cow | ChipX86: a new libsexy release soonish would be handy :) |
| 08:59.04 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 08:59.11 | ChipX86 | can I do it tomorrow? So tired from all this |
| 08:59.28 | purple_cow | yeah, just sometime before i cut an 0.5 |
| 08:59.33 | ChipX86 | cool |
| 08:59.35 | ChipX86 | I want a release out soon |
| 08:59.42 | ChipX86 | I need to finish libsexymm too |
| 09:01.40 | ChipX86 | purple_cow: largely, I'm just saying that, because seb128 is on my back for other things, but I do want to get libsexymm ready before I release the libsexy tarball |
| 09:03.17 | purple_cow | ChipX86: ah, cool |
| 09:03.33 | ChipX86 | mind testing something? |
| 09:04.51 | purple_cow | if its quick |
| 09:04.51 | ChipX86 | oh ok |
| 09:04.52 | ChipX86 | nm then |
| 09:05.12 | purple_cow | (which pretty much eliminates installing anything dbus-related, since gentoo's dbus setup is kind of weird) |
| 09:05.20 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 09:05.24 | ChipX86 | it's the notification stuff |
| 09:05.25 | ChipX86 | tarballs |
| 09:06.24 | purple_cow | cool |
| 09:06.36 | ChipX86 | :) |
| 09:06.41 | ChipX86 | just sent him the tarballs |
| 09:06.41 | purple_cow | so 0.6 will definitely utilize |
| 09:06.46 | ChipX86 | he's going to play with them |
| 09:06.55 | ChipX86 | and I'm going to grab food and go to bed |
| 09:07.27 | purple_cow | i'm thinking that for dcc, a non-going-away "transfer failed" and a going-away "transfer succeeded" would be good things |
| 09:17.54 | ChipX86 | cool |
| 09:17.56 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 09:22.36 | ChipX86 | same. g'night |
| 09:22.42 | rioter | night |
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| 13:12.21 | Cae | hmm.. I need python to output the contents of a file after it's made it through php.. |
| 13:15.52 | Cae | in other words, I need python to evaluate cat wait.php | php... |
| 13:28.17 | Cae | which it *would* happily do with just popen and read()... |
| 13:28.29 | Cae | but it screams bloody murder at me when I try to put that in a file.. |
| 13:47.27 | kergoth | morning |
| 13:48.18 | Cae | morning |
| 13:48.57 | Cae | hmm..should I be importing popen2, or os? |
| 13:50.27 | kergoth | heh |
| 13:50.47 | Cae | I don't even know what this is failing on |
| 13:52.20 | Cae | I do know that apache is doing something creepy, but damned if I know what.. |
| 13:58.23 | Cae | *something* is wrong here |
| 13:58.31 | Cae | with the server itself |
| 13:58.55 | kergoth | :( |
| 13:59.54 | Cae | well, it really seems like it's caching stuff somewhere |
| 14:03.00 | Cae | except the web browser isn't allowed to keep cache, and apache's not doing it as far as I can tell |
| 14:03.53 | Cae | which leaves gremlins? |
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| 14:05.25 | Cae | hey lurgy |
| 14:07.39 | Cae | you wanna help me figure out the correct sequence of commands for this, right? :) |
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| 14:09.49 | lurgy | heh |
| 14:10.02 | Cae | how much do you like python? |
| 14:10.02 | lurgy | mebbe after i take a shower if i have time ;) |
| 14:10.06 | Cae | :P |
| 14:10.11 | lurgy | hurray python, it's happy |
| 14:10.18 | Cae | it's not happy with me :( |
| 14:10.27 | lurgy | :( |
| 14:10.29 | lurgy | bad python |
| 14:10.29 | lurgy | sit |
| 14:11.00 | Cae | welll..I think it has to do with some creepy difference between python and python server pages |
| 14:12.18 | Cae | neither do I.. |
| 14:12.30 | Cae | it's pissed at me for some reason, but I don't know why |
| 14:12.43 | Cae | what I want works at a python prompt, but not in the server page |
| 14:13.16 | Cae | ie.. import os, p=os.popen("cat wait.php | php"), p.read() |
| 14:13.20 | Cae | or so on |
| 14:13.37 | Cae | I can do this about five different ways now |
| 14:14.36 | Cae | all I want is an unholy mating of psp and php.. :( |
| 14:14.42 | Cae | is that too much to ask? |
| 14:14.55 | lurgy | that sounds like it could be a php problem too.. ick.. |
| 14:15.58 | Cae | or php -f wait.php |
| 14:16.50 | Cae | but that gives an "Input file not specified" error |
| 14:16.58 | Cae | which I have NO idea where that's coming from |
| 14:19.15 | lurgy | =/ |
| 14:19.31 | lurgy | well, i gotta go take that shower |
| 14:19.43 | Cae | myep |
| 14:20.41 | Cae | good luck :) |
| 14:22.07 | Cae | I think this is all a timing issue..but I don't know how I can fix it.. |
| 14:31.36 | Cae | well, other than using another way to do this, but I can't find one.. |
| 14:35.09 | Cae | python peoples, arise! |
| 14:44.17 | file[laptop] | time to eat a food-like substance |
| 14:45.47 | Cae | file..do you like python? |
| 14:46.34 | file[laptop] | Cae: potato. |
| 14:46.54 | Cae | vodka. |
| 15:02.13 | Evil_Sophie | morning! |
| 15:02.18 | Evil_Sophie | :) |
| 15:03.08 | Cae | morning |
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| 15:25.16 | darth_mall | hmm... Evil_Sophie... |
| 15:25.18 | darth_mall | scary |
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| 15:54.40 | darth_mall | why do linksys's waps have to be so ugly? |
| 15:56.15 | darth_mall | it doesn't look like this cute little belkin one does any mac filtering |
| 15:58.16 | Veight | Morning |
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| 16:01.32 | Cae | it's four lines. |
| 16:01.35 | Cae | FOUR. |
| 16:01.38 | darth_mall | what is? |
| 16:01.54 | Cae | getting a fully parsed php page into a python server page |
| 16:02.10 | numist | Cae: really? do tell |
| 16:02.18 | Cae | import os |
| 16:02.38 | Cae | rd=os.popen("php -f blah.php") |
| 16:02.49 | Cae | outp="".join(rd.readlines()) |
| 16:03.01 | darth_mall | "".join ? |
| 16:03.18 | Cae | and then later, <%=outp%>, wherever you want the content from the php page to go |
| 16:03.25 | numist | Cae: that doesnt pass server, get, and post vars, though, does it? |
| 16:03.40 | Cae | join all the lines in readlines() with "" between them |
| 16:04.14 | Cae | numist: not yet |
| 16:04.19 | numist | hrm |
| 16:04.44 | Cae | I doubt you could, honestly |
| 16:04.54 | Cae | though...maybe.. |
| 16:05.03 | Cae | it'd be wonky |
| 16:05.32 | Cae | forms would still work correctly, I'd think |
| 16:06.42 | Cae | it limits how far the variables can go..you could certainly parse the raw php file for the variables if you *really* wanted to, but that would be time-consuming |
| 16:07.03 | Cae | forms are self-contained in a way though.. |
| 16:07.29 | numist | meh, it just overcomplicates things... |
| 16:07.33 | Cae | I mainly need this for just straight style stuff though, so.. *shrug* |
| 16:07.38 | Cae | hehe |
| 16:07.39 | numist | aye |
| 16:07.55 | Cae | yeah, it makes it complicated. there wasn't much of a choice for this particular bastardization though |
| 16:08.01 | numist | ah well |
| 16:09.55 | *** join/#tacobeam pagefault (Eric@69.158.161.68) |
| 16:13.49 | *** join/#tacobeam cwisty (~Christy@ec237-50-dhcp.colorado.edu) |
| 16:14.10 | nullpuppy | http://www.pcmag.com/slideshow/0,1206,l=&s=26945&a=156757,00.asp |
| 16:14.14 | nullpuppy | vista screen shots |
| 16:15.33 | pagefault | yeah I am getting the iso now |
| 16:15.35 | pagefault | :) |
| 16:16.55 | numist | not a fan of the ui :/ |
| 16:17.05 | nullpuppy | hehe, i am too... not so sure if i really want to try to install it now though... |
| 16:17.19 | pagefault | i'm just installing it in vmware |
| 16:17.19 | nullpuppy | numist: did you see the ie7 shots? |
| 16:17.26 | nullpuppy | its.. oh god.... |
| 16:17.28 | numist | nullpuppy: not yet, just explorer and ctrl panel so far |
| 16:17.31 | darth_mall | the treeview thing in the start menu is weird |
| 16:17.32 | scanlime | cwisty! |
| 16:17.44 | nullpuppy | pagefault: yeah, me too.. but i'm not sure it deserves the space :) |
| 16:17.46 | darth_mall | eek... scanlime *and* cwisty |
| 16:17.49 | numist | sweet, that site has fx screen shots first |
| 16:17.54 | darth_mall | nothing good can come of this |
| 16:17.57 | nullpuppy | yeah, the start menu is fucked up.. |
| 16:18.38 | numist | so whats really different? new look, new ui, same old windows, from the look of it |
| 16:18.39 | darth_mall | if they got rid of that annoying feature where they hide menu items that you haven't recently used I'd be pretty happy |
| 16:18.58 | nullpuppy | yeah, you can disable that |
| 16:19.10 | nullpuppy | disable personalized menu's |
| 16:19.24 | nullpuppy | yeah, new ui, some of the concepts they' |
| 16:19.31 | nullpuppy | ve implemented look kinda nice |
| 16:19.38 | nullpuppy | not sure i'm found of how they did it though |
| 16:19.58 | numist | ugh, nice start menu |
| 16:20.08 | nullpuppy | yeah.. |
| 16:20.33 | cwisty | scanlime ! |
| 16:20.57 | cwisty | darth_mall ! |
| 16:21.39 | scanlime | darth_mall: wrt54g |
| 16:21.39 | numist | weird, IE looks like firefox in that screenshot |
| 16:21.39 | numist | just a few less buttons |
| 16:21.39 | darth_mall | scanlime: yeah, that's the one I was looking at |
| 16:21.59 | numist | darth_mall: I reccoment linksys :) |
| 16:22.11 | numist | <-- wrt54gs <3 |
| 16:22.16 | scanlime | netgear makes good stuff too, but the linksys routers are hackable if you need to run extra stuff on them |
| 16:22.26 | darth_mall | ok |
| 16:22.41 | scanlime | linksys used to just be a purveyor of really crappy network switches and cards, but their recent network appliance products have been really good |
| 16:22.45 | pagefault | hmm |
| 16:22.53 | scanlime | it's a wap54g |
| 16:22.56 | pagefault | my only issue right now in vista is is there an option to scale down the graphics heh |
| 16:22.57 | darth_mall | oh |
| 16:23.03 | pagefault | the file replace dialog is huge |
| 16:23.06 | darth_mall | maybe the wap54g was what I was looking at |
| 16:25.52 | darth_mall | ok, I was looking at the wap54g on linksys.com and the wrt54g on newegg |
| 16:29.43 | numist | :/ |
| 16:30.02 | nullpuppy | haha |
| 16:30.03 | nullpuppy | yes |
| 16:30.03 | nullpuppy | :) |
| 16:30.20 | numist | would anyone else be interested? if its just me I dont see a point in hosting it |
| 16:30.38 | nullpuppy | but we could mirror it on p.t.o! |
| 16:30.43 | numist | yes, we could |
| 16:30.57 | numist | uhm, but its p.y.c |
| 16:31.07 | nullpuppy | erm.. yeah.. p.t.c |
| 16:31.09 | numist | :) |
| 16:31.16 | cwisty | so scanlime |
| 16:31.21 | cwisty | we're having a party today |
| 16:31.27 | scanlime | so I hear |
| 16:31.32 | cwisty | at CSGC |
| 16:42.11 | scanlime | a party for you :) |
| 16:42.11 | cwisty | and you |
| 16:42.11 | cwisty | kinda |
| 16:42.12 | cwisty | I'll send you some virtual cake |
| 16:42.12 | scanlime | e-mail me a rootbeer float |
| 16:42.12 | scanlime | hehe |
| 16:42.12 | cwisty | haha |
| 16:42.12 | purple_cow | hey look, a box that appears suspiciously similar to the one i packed darth_mall's laptop in |
| 16:42.12 | cwisty | scanlime Leah says hi |
| 16:42.12 | scanlime | hi Leah! |
| 16:42.12 | cwisty | it's just Leah and I right now |
| 16:42.12 | cwisty | everyone else is out and about com testing |
| 16:42.12 | scanlime | then my work here is done! |
| 16:42.13 | cwisty | melting on the roof |
| 16:42.13 | cwisty | hehe |
| 16:42.13 | cwisty | well not really |
| 16:42.13 | scanlime | ow |
| 16:42.13 | cwisty | I have documentation for you |
| 16:42.13 | cwisty | :-D |
| 16:42.13 | scanlime | uh oh |
| 16:42.13 | cwisty | I think it's about ready for me to send your way |
| 16:42.13 | scanlime | I have a pig pile of email, which you can be a part of |
| 16:42.13 | scanlime | I think I'll end up getting to it friday night or sunday |
| 16:42.13 | cwisty | to tweak and fix and add your knowledge to |
| 16:42.13 | cwisty | OK |
| 16:42.13 | scanlime | I've been kinda dead after work this week, and I'm spending most of the weekend on the way to and from LA |
| 16:42.13 | cwisty | my last day here is tomorrow |
| 16:42.13 | scanlime | ah |
| 16:42.13 | cwisty | but I'm goin to continue to document even when I'm out |
| 16:42.13 | scanlime | congrats, you made it through the summer at SG! |
| 16:42.14 | cwisty | yay |
| 16:42.14 | cwisty | wooo |
| 16:42.14 | cwisty | and Speck still doesn't work |
| 16:42.14 | cwisty | weee |
| 16:42.14 | scanlime | :( |
| 16:42.14 | scanlime | how bad is it? |
| 16:42.14 | scanlime | same as when I left? |
| 16:42.15 | cwisty | yup |
| 16:42.15 | cwisty | we can't test it |
| 16:42.15 | cwisty | well enough anyway |
| 16:42.15 | scanlime | aw. you just need to invent a version of speck with no optics |
| 16:42.15 | scanlime | it'd be easy to test |
| 16:42.17 | cwisty | speck is the optics |
| 16:42.17 | cwisty | speck with no optics is just speck sans lid |
| 16:42.17 | scanlime | see, that's where the inventing comes into play |
| 16:42.17 | scanlime | go! invent! |
| 16:42.22 | cwisty | hehe |
| 16:42.22 | cwisty | uh no |
| 16:42.22 | scanlime | oh fine :P |
| 16:42.23 | darth_mall | purple_cow: my laptop's back? =D |
| 16:42.23 | purple_cow | darth_mall: either that or it's the new hose for my bicycle pump |
| 16:44.45 | purple_cow | http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1000992006 |
| 16:44.53 | scanlime | cwisty: I should head off to work. Have fun at the party, say Hi to all the CSGC folks when they get back. Give yourself a hug for me! |
| 16:45.37 | ChipX86 | hmm work.. |
| 16:46.27 | cwisty | OK |
| 16:46.29 | cwisty | have fun scanlime |
| 16:53.30 | kergoth | well, that went pretty well |
| 16:53.30 | ChipX86 | I should play with the new longhorn beta |
| 16:53.30 | ChipX86 | http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/4714135.stm |
| 16:53.30 | darth_mall | kergoth: what went well? |
| 16:53.30 | kergoth | darth_mall: my job interview this morning |
| 16:53.30 | darth_mall | cool |
| 16:53.31 | ChipX86 | cool |
| 16:53.31 | darth_mall | for which position? |
| 16:53.31 | kergoth | frankly i'm overqualified, linux wise |
| 16:53.35 | nullpuppy | neat! |
| 16:53.36 | kergoth | which is as expected |
| 16:53.37 | kergoth | http://seeker.dice.com/jobsearch/servlet/JobSearch?op=101&dockey=xml/e/b/eb1b615258c9706ef2d8b4657328cfb2@activejobs0&c=1&source=1 |
| 16:53.41 | kergoth | that one |
| 16:53.51 | nullpuppy | kergoth: good luck |
| 16:54.03 | kergoth | anyway, at one point the CTO who i was interviewing with was going to introduce me and have me talk to their main developer person |
| 16:54.44 | kergoth | and he goes .. "well, why dont you talk to her and learn more about the position and decide if it would be a good fit for you.. *glances at resume* well, we wouldnt have brought you if we hadnt thought you a good fit for the position.." |
| 16:54.48 | kergoth | or something like that |
| 16:54.56 | ChipX86 | god damn D-BUS |
| 16:54.59 | nullpuppy | haha |
| 16:55.00 | ChipX86 | I HATE this library |
| 16:55.00 | nullpuppy | cool |
| 16:55.07 | nullpuppy | ChipX86: :( |
| 16:55.17 | kergoth | so i expect they'll offer it to me, my only real concern is money.. they're in startup mode, so tight budget |
| 16:55.32 | kergoth | the position on dice said $45-60k, i told him i wanted $55-60k, but was open |
| 16:55.38 | nullpuppy | ah :/ |
| 16:55.48 | kergoth | so.. i expect he'll offer me like $50 or something, maybe with the option of getting more after i'm there for a while |
| 16:56.04 | kergoth | oh well, thats $20k less than i made at ti, but at least i'm keeping expenses low at my townhouse |
| 16:56.09 | kergoth | heh |
| 16:56.09 | nullpuppy | yeah, that'd be cool.. |
| 16:56.10 | nullpuppy | yeah |
| 16:56.32 | ChipX86 | kergoth: congrats |
| 16:56.46 | ChipX86 | god damnit. I'm fairly pissed now. |
| 16:57.42 | kergoth | haha, http://www.sinfulshirts.com/customize.php?shirt=93 |
| 16:58.14 | ChipX86 | ok, I know there's all this hype over dbus, but I think it's seriously time for it to go |
| 16:59.22 | ChipX86 | they made too many bad assumptions and designed it so poorly |
| 16:59.40 | kergoth | :( |
| 16:59.52 | ChipX86 | so you used to be able to send over a dictionary type with keys and values |
| 17:00.03 | ChipX86 | and you could say, "This key maps to this int" and "This other key maps to this string" |
| 17:00.07 | ChipX86 | and all was good |
| 17:00.11 | ChipX86 | but now, you're limited to one value type |
| 17:00.28 | ChipX86 | which completely breaks sending parameters in a dictionary |
| 17:00.30 | kergoth | http://www.sinfulshirts.com/customize.php?shirt=102 |
| 17:00.33 | kergoth | ChipX86: thats fucked up |
| 17:00.42 | ChipX86 | so no we have to marshal everything. |
| 17:01.48 | ChipX86 | and on the listserv, they're now finding all kinds of breakage |
| 17:01.54 | ChipX86 | like you can't send an empty array |
| 17:02.06 | ChipX86 | so now they're saying they can't fix it in their current system unless they add an EMPTY_ARRAY type |
| 17:02.44 | purple_cow | eegh |
| 17:02.54 | ChipX86 | you cannot send an array of an array of a type |
| 17:03.02 | ChipX86 | they assume it works, but it doesn't, and they're not willing to fix it |
| 17:03.06 | ChipX86 | and now this dictionary problem |
| 17:03.14 | ChipX86 | which, due to the new design in 0.3x, they cannot fix |
| 17:04.02 | ChipX86 | there's no way of knowing when a client disconnects from the bus, which they figured wasn't important, except everybody's now hitting htis problem and are having to do nasty hacks |
| 17:04.17 | ChipX86 | man, this is just no good. |
| 17:05.08 | ChipX86 | now they're saying libdbus isn't meant to be used by actual people. You're supposed to use a higher-level binding, so a lot of the hackery can be kept to a minimum.. except the above problems remain problems |
| 17:06.03 | purple_cow | doesn't that kind of conflict with the "too many libraries" problem? :) |
| 17:06.11 | ChipX86 | yeah. |
| 17:06.16 | darth_mall | purple_cow: do your usb enclosures get hot because they were stacked, or do they get like that by themselves? |
| 17:06.19 | ChipX86 | and it's the same people |
| 17:06.33 | ChipX86 | like, walters works on the glib bindings, and said libnotify is bad because it's one more library |
| 17:07.12 | purple_cow | i don't want to have to link together a library if i'm just exposing one tiny thing on the bus |
| 17:07.20 | purple_cow | darth_mall: they get hot by themselves |
| 17:07.23 | ChipX86 | nice. "I think I probably allowed destinations on signals on purpose. The spec could maybe be clearer on that." -- havoc |
| 17:07.50 | purple_cow | it's probably not too dangerous when they're not stacked, but it was still higher than my comfort range |
| 17:08.02 | ChipX86 | so now I have to bite the bullet and require all data to be marshalled/demarhsalled to/from strings.. |
| 17:08.20 | darth_mall | purple_cow: hmm... what kind are they? I think I'll try and steer clear, especially since I only need one |
| 17:08.35 | ChipX86 | with all this crap, plus the work I need to do for that presentation next week, I'm not sure a trip to LA this weekend is wise |
| 17:08.39 | purple_cow | darth_mall: that's not the problem |
| 17:08.48 | purple_cow | the problem is that the disks put out a lot of heat |
| 17:08.52 | darth_mall | oh |
| 17:09.08 | purple_cow | and any enclosure without some kind of ventilation will get hot |
| 17:09.20 | darth_mall | all disks or just those disks in particular? |
| 17:10.30 | purple_cow | well, it certainly varies by disk. i'd guess that all 7600rpm disks are pretty similar |
| 17:12.37 | gonkulator | holy cow, my iPod has arrived |
| 17:13.19 | purple_cow | ChipX86: i think you just need to complain loudly and publically |
| 17:13.26 | ChipX86 | yeah. |
| 17:13.44 | purple_cow | i don't think i've seen anyone really stand up and say "this sucks" |
| 17:14.59 | ChipX86 | I just don't know how much I want to fight this battle |
| 17:16.09 | purple_cow | have you talked to j5 at all? he seems more reasonable than havoc ;) |
| 17:16.55 | ChipX86 | no, I need to |
| 17:17.02 | ChipX86 | just been posting to the dbus listserv |
| 17:17.17 | ChipX86 | seriously though, I'm considering moving galago off d-bus |
| 17:17.52 | ChipX86 | the fact that they think IPC over TCP/IP is useless and won't work on it, despite several large projects saying they need it, makes me think that they really don't care about real-world usages of D-BUS |
| 17:18.24 | purple_cow | what does it use now? unix sockets? |
| 17:18.28 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 17:18.58 | ChipX86 | beagle doesn't use dbus anymore because of several large problems that the dbus guys didn't care to really try to fix |
| 17:20.13 | ChipX86 | ohh |
| 17:20.15 | ChipX86 | they have a VARIANT type |
| 17:20.23 | ChipX86 | seems like that might work |
| 17:20.45 | ChipX86 | although the docs say it doesn't work for strings |
| 17:21.09 | ChipX86 | we will see. |
| 17:21.29 | ChipX86 | grr |
| 17:23.44 | ChipX86 | ok, so a variant is another container type |
| 17:24.05 | ChipX86 | damn, late for work |
| 17:24.11 | purple_cow | the more i hear about this type system, the more it seems like they're trying to replace flexibility with complexity |
| 17:24.17 | ChipX86 | they are |
| 17:24.20 | ChipX86 | the old one worked |
| 17:24.23 | ChipX86 | it wasn't recursive though |
| 17:24.29 | ChipX86 | but the new one is just broken |
| 17:24.41 | ChipX86 | it took them 5 versions to realize that you couldn't get fixed arrays |
| 17:26.28 | ChipX86 | ok got to go to work |
| 17:44.11 | darth_mall | I think the solution is to just give up |
| 17:44.12 | darth_mall | ^^ |
| 17:44.19 | darth_mall | or... killing spree |
| 17:44.28 | darth_mall | stabbity stabbity stab stab |
| 17:47.03 | gonkulator | killing spree isn't fun but for a little while :/ |
| 17:47.14 | darth_mall | naw |
| 17:47.21 | darth_mall | it's fun as long as there're people to stab |
| 17:47.58 | numist | so, total losses from my car so far run up to 12,763 in stolen items only (not including damage) |
| 17:48.05 | darth_mall | ouch |
| 17:48.15 | kergoth | damn |
| 17:48.19 | pagefault | that sucks |
| 17:48.21 | numist | if you dont count the software that belongs to my employer, its $2600, which is still more than my car is worth |
| 17:48.24 | darth_mall | here we find another situation perfect for a killing spree |
| 17:48.29 | numist | yes, I agree fully |
| 17:48.39 | numist | *2800 |
| 17:48.42 | numist | *sigh* |
| 17:48.50 | pagefault | I hunger |
| 17:48.55 | numist | I'd like that |
| 17:49.02 | numist | oh crap |
| 17:49.12 | pagefault | I am going to the grocery store in a second to buy some wings |
| 17:53.26 | numist | totals going up as I remember things that were taken... |
| 17:53.39 | numist | I discovered this morning (hadnt noticed yet) that my watch was stolen too... |
| 17:58.05 | nullpuppy | what happened? |
| 18:00.08 | numist | nullpuppy: sunday night my car got stolen from while I slept |
| 18:02.40 | numist | $3200 of my own property, and $9k worth of company software |
| 18:02.43 | nullpuppy | ah :( damn |
| 18:02.54 | numist | worst part is the car is only worth $2k... |
| 18:02.58 | nullpuppy | :( |
| 18:03.01 | numist | and insurance will cover $360 of the damages |
| 18:03.08 | numist | so, these numbers are for the police report |
| 18:03.10 | nullpuppy | ouch |
| 18:03.23 | numist | yeah |
| 18:03.45 | darth_mall | sue the police! |
| 18:03.55 | numist | heh, thatll go well... |
| 18:03.58 | darth_mall | sue the insurance company! |
| 18:04.10 | numist | oh, and the private security detail that patrolls my neighbourhood? |
| 18:04.25 | numist | I lived there for 2 years, and the first time I saw them ever is when I called the police on monday |
| 18:06.47 | darth_mall | sue the neighborhood! |
| 18:07.01 | numist | Id love to take the homeowners association to a stab-fest, trust me |
| 18:07.20 | kergoth | yay, stab fest |
| 18:08.48 | ChipX86|Gone | well that was a nice fast walk to the bus and back |
| 18:09.05 | darth_mall | welcome, ChipX86, you were missed |
| 18:09.10 | ChipX86 | still not at work. |
| 18:09.31 | numist | ChipX86: ? |
| 18:09.34 | numist | bus worker strike? |
| 18:09.39 | ChipX86 | I got to the bus stop on time. Unfortunately, it seems that the bus was early. |
| 18:09.45 | ChipX86 | or very, very, very late |
| 18:09.52 | numist | d'oh |
| 18:10.02 | numist | at least yours is decently reliable... the busses here are *never* on time |
| 18:10.06 | numist | they come when they want to |
| 18:10.17 | ChipX86 | mine's not very reliable |
| 18:10.31 | numist | ah well |
| 18:10.41 | ChipX86 | sometimes the last bus of the day will "break down" (or, as one employee told me, they choose not to do their last route and say the bus is broken) |
| 18:10.51 | numist | lol |
| 18:10.54 | numist | thats shady |
| 18:11.20 | darth_mall | yeah |
| 18:11.26 | darth_mall | I mean, driving a bus is so tough |
| 18:12.10 | darth_mall | yeah, they have it rough |
| 18:12.23 | ChipX86 | they're lazy bums |
| 18:12.28 | ChipX86 | we get some very crappy drivers |
| 18:12.34 | darth_mall | numist: every job has challenges |
| 18:12.39 | numist | indeed |
| 18:12.46 | darth_mall | you'll never convince me that driving a bus is all that difficult |
| 18:12.54 | ChipX86 | there was this one guy who would never stop when someone pulled the cable |
| 18:12.56 | numist | its not, but you dont need a degree to do it either |
| 18:12.58 | darth_mall | especially not compared to other professions I can think of |
| 18:13.05 | ChipX86 | he was old, looked stoned or just out of it, and didn't pay attention |
| 18:13.07 | numist | truckers, however, I give much credit to |
| 18:13.19 | darth_mall | meh |
| 18:13.27 | ChipX86 | I once ended up 2 miles from where I was supposed to get off, because, despite telling him repeatedly, "You missed my stop, please let me off," he didn't even realize I was talking to him for 2 miles. |
| 18:13.28 | numist | truckers are teh leet of the road |
| 18:13.41 | numist | ChipX86: thats when you need to walk up to him with a knife :) |
| 18:13.51 | darth_mall | and cause an accident! |
| 18:13.55 | darth_mall | hehe |
| 18:14.08 | numist | itll go on his record, not yours |
| 18:14.17 | ChipX86 | numist: heh, with a knife would be bad |
| 18:14.36 | ChipX86 | they're now telling passengers every day to make sure you report any suspicious packages, because they just might be bombs |
| 18:15.45 | numist | sweet |
| 18:15.56 | numist | you should walk on with a box of bricks some day, and leave it on there when you get off |
| 18:16.05 | ChipX86 | haha |
| 18:16.06 | numist | make a show of it too |
| 18:16.14 | ChipX86 | gooood idea |
| 18:16.18 | numist | drop it hazardly on the floor when you get in |
| 18:16.23 | purple_cow | no |
| 18:16.26 | numist | duct tape and ratty box |
| 18:16.28 | numist | XD |
| 18:16.31 | purple_cow | you need to be *really* careful with it as you put it down :) |
| 18:16.37 | ChipX86 | aww, now I can't tell what's a car alarm and what's road construction |
| 18:16.38 | numist | rofl |
| 18:16.42 | ChipX86 | purple_cow: haha :) |
| 18:16.56 | numist | make a show of it |
| 18:18.26 | darth_mall | hmm... maybe I'll put off the hard drive and enclosure and just the nslu2 and the wrt54g for now |
| 18:18.33 | ChipX86 | damn |
| 18:19.33 | ChipX86 | charity version? |
| 18:19.49 | gonkulator | yeah, its what the parish gave me to install on these boxes |
| 18:20.07 | gonkulator | it doesn't recognize the network card or the video card |
| 18:20.17 | gonkulator | and its XP... |
| 18:21.22 | darth_mall | Windows XP Charity Edition? |
| 18:21.26 | darth_mall | hehe |
| 18:21.31 | darth_mall | that's funny |
| 18:22.07 | ChipX86 | man, developing without the aid of a VM would be tough |
| 18:22.15 | CIA-11 | galago: 03chipx86 * r2079 10libnotify/ (ChangeLog libnotify/notify.c tests/test-xy.c): Use a variant type for the hint dictionary values. This let's us actually use various data types in D-BUS 0.3x. |
| 18:22.24 | ChipX86 | all this various D-BUS stuff |
| 18:22.48 | nullpuppy | yeah |
| 18:23.04 | CIA-11 | galago: 03chipx86 * r2080 10notification-daemon/ (ChangeLog src/main.cc): |
| 18:23.04 | CIA-11 | galago: - Open the variant type for hints so that we can get the value within. |
| 18:23.04 | CIA-11 | galago: - Fix a GCC 4.0 compiler error. |
| 18:25.31 | CIA-11 | galago: 03chipx86 * r2081 10libnotify/docs/ (ChangeLog notification-spec.xml): Talk about variants as the dictionary values for hints. |
| 18:27.40 | CIA-11 | galago: 03chipx86 * r2082 10libnotify/ (ChangeLog NEWS configure.ac): Bump to version 0.2.1. |
| 18:28.59 | CIA-11 | galago: 03chipx86 * r2083 10notification-daemon/ (ChangeLog NEWS configure.ac): Bump to version 0.2.1. |
| 18:30.51 | nullpuppy | vmware really needs something gui to tell the user to run vmware-config if it hasn't been done yet |
| 18:31.05 | nullpuppy | so i don't sit there wondering why vmware isn't starting after a kernel upgrade... |
| 18:31.08 | nullpuppy | :) |
| 18:31.16 | ChipX86 | numist: yeah |
| 18:31.18 | ChipX86 | ewr |
| 18:31.20 | ChipX86 | nullpuppy: yeah |
| 18:31.24 | ChipX86 | we eventually want to nuke that script |
| 18:31.28 | ChipX86 | takes time |
| 18:31.32 | nullpuppy | yeah |
| 18:31.36 | nullpuppy | makes sense |
| 18:32.00 | nullpuppy | hmm |
| 18:33.06 | ChipX86 | XP |
| 18:33.21 | nullpuppy | does it matter which version/type though? |
| 18:33.24 | nullpuppy | oem/retail home/pro? |
| 18:33.34 | ChipX86 | dunno |
| 18:35.41 | darth_mall | well you should, dammit! get researching |
| 18:36.40 | nullpuppy | well.. /me goes with retail since he doesn't currently have an oem key |
| 18:36.47 | ChipX86 | ok, notification-daemon and libnotify 0.2.1 |
| 18:43.44 | kergoth | ChipX86, nullpuppy: new release of warsong commander includes all my suggested changes, including removing the reliance on CT_RaidAssist, so now if we're all running it, i can put a ping anywhere on the map and you all can see it |
| 18:43.48 | kergoth | :) |
| 18:43.53 | ChipX86 | nice |
| 18:44.05 | nullpuppy | sweet! |
| 18:44.11 | kergoth | only downside is pings on it dont also do a normal minimap ping for people close by |
| 18:44.19 | kergoth | so you'd have to ping both, if some people arent running the addon.. |
| 18:45.43 | ChipX86 | DAMNIT |
| 18:45.51 | ChipX86 | oh good |
| 18:45.57 | ChipX86 | I thought notification-daemon was broken again |
| 18:46.01 | ChipX86 | turned out I still had the old one running |
| 18:46.08 | gonkulator | morning Cae |
| 18:46.09 | numist | lol |
| 18:46.10 | hardwire | my poor knee |
| 18:46.10 | ChipX86 | this notification stuff is killing me :) |
| 18:46.12 | nullpuppy | hrm. i have another xp code somewhere.. wonder where i put it... |
| 18:46.14 | hardwire | a dog ran into it last night |
| 18:46.19 | ChipX86 | hardwire: ow |
| 18:46.21 | nullpuppy | might just have to snag it from work again |
| 18:46.22 | hardwire | like |
| 18:46.25 | hardwire | tried to swerve |
| 18:46.30 | ChipX86 | wonder what we're doing for lunch |
| 18:46.32 | hardwire | then just ended up t-boning me |
| 18:46.40 | hardwire | while I wasn't looking |
| 18:46.45 | hardwire | otherwise it would be the poor dog |
| 18:46.49 | hardwire | cause I would have prepped for it |
| 18:46.51 | hardwire | doh |
| 18:46.52 | gonkulator | thats about the craziest thing I have ever heard |
| 18:46.53 | hardwire | fucking knee |
| 18:47.11 | hardwire | nullpuppy: I have a ton |
| 18:47.30 | nullpuppy | hardwire: cool. mine's legal :) |
| 18:48.04 | hardwire | http://www.bogomip.com/~hardwire/work/misc/xp_key.htm |
| 18:48.05 | hardwire | oh |
| 18:48.07 | hardwire | legal |
| 18:48.09 | hardwire | thats different |
| 18:48.12 | nullpuppy | hehe |
| 18:48.19 | hardwire | all of mine are too.. |
| 18:48.22 | hardwire | now |
| 18:48.27 | nullpuppy | hehe |
| 18:49.19 | hardwire | ugh |
| 18:49.22 | hardwire | my meeting got taken over |
| 18:49.29 | numist | d'oh |
| 18:49.31 | hardwire | by two different meetings |
| 18:49.35 | hardwire | I made my boss set aside time for me |
| 18:49.48 | hardwire | one guy just waltzed in and started talking about digging holes |
| 18:49.56 | hardwire | another came in to bitch about an employee |
| 18:50.02 | hardwire | I sat for like 10 minutes before I just left |
| 18:50.09 | numist | next time shut the door |
| 18:50.13 | hardwire | I hate the lack of respect |
| 18:50.16 | hardwire | numist.. it was |
| 18:50.24 | numist | d'oh |
| 18:50.31 | hardwire | I soo need a new job |
| 18:50.31 | numist | next time bring a gun |
| 18:50.40 | hardwire | you.. leave.. |
| 18:50.52 | hardwire | and of course my knee is all screwed up.. so I can't kick them |
| 18:50.56 | ChipX86 | hmm, something works, and that confuses me a little |
| 18:51.06 | numist | :) |
| 18:52.00 | Cae | okay, now I want to make php and python mate in the opposite order. I can get python to eat php, I now want php to eat python. |
| 18:52.33 | Cae | that really did not sound right at all |
| 18:52.48 | numist | Cae: lemme check for you |
| 18:52.55 | ChipX86 | yay, scripted mating rituals |
| 18:53.02 | darth_mall | Cae: hahahaha |
| 18:53.06 | darth_mall | Cae: you win |
| 18:53.07 | pagefault | mmm mcdonalds |
| 18:53.09 | pagefault | now to go throw up |
| 18:53.15 | Cae | ooh, what do I win? |
| 18:53.17 | numist | Cae: I think this is what you want: http://us2.php.net/manual/en/function.passthru.php |
| 18:53.29 | numist | unless you want to mangle the text in your execution |
| 18:53.50 | darth_mall | Cae: another beer! |
| 18:53.50 | ChipX86 | meh, just sandwiches today |
| 18:54.31 | Cae | numist: I'm not sure python server pages *can* be executed from command-line |
| 18:54.36 | Cae | which is..a big problem.. |
| 18:55.02 | numist | Cae: then you might have a lot of trouble... since php doesnt have support for much other than system calls as far as non-php code goes |
| 18:55.11 | numist | you could always write a python interpreters in php :) |
| 18:55.21 | Cae | http://www.csh.rit.edu/~jon/projects/pip/ |
| 18:56.10 | numist | python in php? |
| 18:57.37 | Cae | that's an alternative |
| 18:57.51 | numist | cool |
| 18:58.23 | ChipX86 | you just just write the whole thing in brainfuck |
| 18:58.28 | gonkulator | hmm... |
| 18:58.38 | Cae | ..er? |
| 18:58.39 | ChipX86 | er, replace the first "just" iwth "should" |
| 18:58.40 | gonkulator | whats the file that one changes to mess with Window's prefered OS? |
| 18:58.46 | nullpuppy | its too bad you can't clone vm's that are in the on or suspended state |
| 18:58.52 | ChipX86 | nullpuppy: yeah |
| 18:59.11 | darth_mall | "window's preferred os"? |
| 18:59.20 | ChipX86 | gonkulator: you mean, the file to change to mess with Windows? |
| 18:59.22 | numist | nullpuppy: well, suspended at least.. if theyre on youd have to freeze execution or something |
| 18:59.26 | ChipX86 | "Windows's preferred OS" is redundant :) |
| 18:59.33 | nullpuppy | numist: yeah |
| 18:59.36 | ChipX86 | (kidding, I know what you mean) |
| 18:59.45 | ChipX86 | it's.. I don't remember now. I think it's a hidden file in C:\ |
| 18:59.48 | nullpuppy | on makes sense, suspended.. that'd be awesome, shouldn't be that difficult |
| 18:59.57 | ChipX86 | boot.ini? |
| 18:59.58 | nullpuppy | i suppose you could do it manually |
| 19:00.00 | ChipX86 | msdos.sys? |
| 19:00.01 | ChipX86 | something |
| 19:00.02 | numist | well, you can always hibernate :P |
| 19:00.06 | numist | ChipX86: command.com? |
| 19:00.07 | nullpuppy | hehe |
| 19:00.23 | nullpuppy | yeah, boot.ini is what he wants... |
| 19:02.29 | nullpuppy | need to be able to drag and drop to and from vm's too... |
| 19:02.49 | numist | lol that would be sweet |
| 19:05.50 | nullpuppy | hehe |
| 19:05.55 | numist | XD sweet |
| 19:06.14 | ChipX86 | ok, getting a ride to lunch |
| 19:06.18 | ChipX86 | then going to work |
| 19:06.19 | numist | later chippy |
| 19:06.20 | ChipX86 | bbl |
| 19:06.29 | nullpuppy | later chip |
| 19:08.55 | nullpuppy | awww, ie7 requires sp2 |
| 19:08.56 | nullpuppy | oh well |
| 19:10.49 | *** join/#tacobeam KeyserLaptop (~mgazic@67.151.241.98) |
| 19:12.07 | darth_mall | heya KeyserWork |
| 19:12.19 | KeyserWork | hey |
| 19:12.57 | gonkulator | howdy KeyserWork |
| 19:13.31 | KeyserWork | howdy |
| 19:13.51 | gonkulator | whoa, thats kinda funky |
| 19:14.08 | KeyserWork | the main office for work is up here |
| 19:14.27 | KeyserWork | i got here tuesday, and am leaving tonight |
| 19:15.01 | KeyserWork | trying to work with the guys up here to set up our development environment for LynxOS on our new PPC 440EP board |
| 19:16.22 | darth_mall | KeyserWork: you should take me with you next time |
| 19:17.06 | nullpuppy | damn |
| 19:17.18 | nullpuppy | 5volting the led on my sonata doesn't do shit |
| 19:20.16 | Evil_Sophie | my baby |
| 19:20.25 | gonkulator | oh no... |
| 19:20.34 | gonkulator | thats better :) |
| 19:28.14 | Cae | is there a way I can get apache to spit out a parsed file? |
| 19:28.28 | Cae | ie an equivalent of php -f blah.php |
| 19:30.42 | nullpuppy | ok, lets see just how bad ie7 is under xp |
| 19:31.58 | pagefault | haha why did you install it |
| 19:32.14 | pagefault | you will have to reinstall now :) |
| 19:32.35 | nullpuppy | thats why i cloned the vm first :) |
| 19:32.40 | nullpuppy | this is horrible |
| 19:32.45 | nullpuppy | it doesn't fit xp at all |
| 19:33.03 | nullpuppy | same ui crap as in vista, which is .. no where near consistent with eachother |
| 19:33.33 | nullpuppy | there is one thing i need to check though |
| 19:33.45 | numist | ? |
| 19:34.07 | nullpuppy | hahahaha, its still horribly broken |
| 19:34.15 | nullpuppy | possibly worse then ie6 |
| 19:34.19 | nullpuppy | thats hilarious |
| 19:34.37 | nullpuppy | numist: http://www.webstandards.org/act/acid2/ |
| 19:34.39 | pagefault | I wonder if they finally fixed PNG and CSS |
| 19:34.58 | nullpuppy | hmm |
| 19:35.27 | nullpuppy | well. from the results of acid2 it looks pretty bad |
| 19:35.28 | pagefault | does deer park pass the test? |
| 19:35.35 | nullpuppy | not sure, should check |
| 19:36.00 | nullpuppy | well. ctrl+t works for new tab, thats good at least... |
| 19:36.37 | nullpuppy | hmm, know any sites that use alpha transparency in png's? |
| 19:38.28 | nullpuppy | nope, deer park still doesnt' pass acid2 |
| 19:38.36 | nullpuppy | no worse then 1.0.x does though |
| 19:39.38 | pagefault | I wish they would fix that |
| 19:39.43 | pagefault | they really have no excuse |
| 19:39.46 | nullpuppy | yeah |
| 19:39.54 | nullpuppy | its close, but not perfect |
| 19:40.41 | pagefault | well at least firefox is using standards mode to render it |
| 19:41.03 | nullpuppy | yeah |
| 19:41.17 | nullpuppy | and ie6 and ie7 have the same output for acid2 ;) |
| 19:41.33 | pagefault | hehe |
| 19:41.37 | pagefault | they probably only changed the interface |
| 19:41.42 | pagefault | the rendering code is probably identical |
| 19:41.56 | nullpuppy | yeah, wouldn't suprise me |
| 19:42.05 | nullpuppy | they added tabs and moved the toolbars aroudn |
| 19:42.10 | nullpuppy | thats like 3 years of work there |
| 19:42.20 | pagefault | I bet the code is a mess |
| 19:43.13 | numist | wow, fx failed the acid2 test badly |
| 19:43.25 | nullpuppy | fx? |
| 19:43.42 | numist | firefox |
| 19:43.47 | nullpuppy | oh, right |
| 19:43.49 | nullpuppy | :) |
| 19:43.58 | nullpuppy | yeah, it breaks, but its not as bad as IE |
| 19:44.19 | nullpuppy | safari and konq apparently pass it now. but i don't have either accessible at the moment |
| 19:44.26 | numist | cool |
| 19:45.09 | pagefault | well it appears MS does care about web standards |
| 19:45.15 | pagefault | so hopefully the beta is really only a beta |
| 19:45.32 | nullpuppy | yeah |
| 19:45.40 | nullpuppy | but its sad that the beta does that bad at rendering |
| 19:45.57 | pagefault | well they have a year to get it right |
| 19:46.00 | pagefault | when vista comes out |
| 19:46.28 | nullpuppy | yeah, but ie7 is supposedly going to be out for xp, so i'd assume they'd release it earlier |
| 19:46.42 | darth_mall | acid2 test? |
| 19:46.46 | nullpuppy | yeah |
| 19:47.16 | pagefault | only safari gets it right |
| 19:47.33 | nullpuppy | http://galago.info/test.html |
| 19:47.35 | nullpuppy | erm |
| 19:47.40 | nullpuppy | http://www.webstandards.org/act/acid2/ |
| 19:47.55 | nullpuppy | http://www.webstandards.org/act/acid2/guide.html |
| 19:48.07 | pagefault | I suppose konq will too |
| 19:48.13 | pagefault | once they finally weed out what apple gave them |
| 19:48.19 | nullpuppy | yeah |
| 19:49.59 | pagefault | haha |
| 19:50.04 | pagefault | crack already for windows |
| 19:50.10 | pagefault | for the cd key check |
| 19:50.11 | nullpuppy | haha |
| 19:50.20 | pagefault | looks like XP can be updated again :) |
| 19:50.27 | nullpuppy | hehe |
| 19:51.04 | file | so apparently I'm paying for supper again tonight |
| 19:51.20 | nullpuppy | i should go make some lunch |
| 19:51.22 | pagefault | hahahaha |
| 19:51.22 | numist | Im so glad I ripped this album before it got stolen out of my car... |
| 19:51.28 | pagefault | you disable it by pasting a command into the location bar |
| 19:51.38 | nullpuppy | ... |
| 19:51.41 | nullpuppy | pagefault: what now? |
| 19:51.48 | pagefault | http://www.boingboing.net/2005/07/28/microsoft_genuine_ad.html |
| 19:52.30 | numist | lol nice |
| 19:52.41 | pagefault | apparently you can also disable it by simply turning it off in IE addons |
| 19:53.13 | numist | lol |
| 19:53.51 | pagefault | hehe |
| 19:53.59 | pagefault | click tools then manage addons |
| 19:54.03 | pagefault | choose addons used by IE |
| 19:54.03 | purple_cow | hehehehe |
| 19:54.04 | purple_cow | http://www.bustedtees.com/shirts/sex |
| 19:54.08 | pagefault | and find genuine advantage, turn it off |
| 19:54.34 | darth_mall | purple_cow: haha |
| 19:55.30 | purple_cow | they have a lot of good ones |
| 19:55.31 | purple_cow | http://www.bustedtees.com/shirts/condiments |
| 19:56.11 | darth_mall | purple_cow: what ISP are we using? |
| 19:56.15 | purple_cow | rofl |
| 19:56.15 | purple_cow | http://www.bustedtees.com/shirts/jesusshaves |
| 19:56.18 | purple_cow | darth_mall: qwest.net |
| 19:57.03 | darth_mall | I didn't think we were using quest |
| 19:57.06 | darth_mall | erm... qwest |
| 19:58.21 | darth_mall | http://www.bustedtees.com/shirts/pedro |
| 19:58.22 | darth_mall | I want that |
| 19:58.58 | darth_mall | http://www.bustedtees.com/shirts/aweso |
| 20:00.24 | kergoth | hehe - http://www.bustedtees.com/shirts/prose |
| 20:00.51 | darth_mall | http://www.bustedtees.com/shirts/greece |
| 20:00.54 | darth_mall | I like the comment on that one |
| 20:01.08 | darth_mall | http://www.bustedtees.com/shirts/jesus <-- haha |
| 20:02.05 | darth_mall | this would probably get you murdered in boulder: http://www.bustedtees.com/shirts/vegetarian |
| 20:02.23 | kergoth | hehe |
| 20:02.35 | kergoth | haha - http://www.bustedtees.com/shirts/life |
| 20:02.45 | kergoth | so true |
| 20:04.07 | CIA-11 | g2bridge: 03evan * r542 10documents/web/ (dev_guide.html main.css user_guide.html): Another file |
| 20:05.32 | pagefault | hehe |
| 20:05.41 | pagefault | the MSDN beta blog is full of angry comments |
| 20:05.57 | darth_mall | me too |
| 20:08.24 | pagefault | Protected Mode. Available in the Windows Vista beta 2 release and beyond, Internet Explorer Protected Mode will provide new levels of security and data protection for Windows users. |
| 20:08.31 | pagefault | you mean the browser doesn't have root anymore? |
| 20:08.32 | pagefault | what a concept |
| 20:08.48 | darth_mall | heh |
| 20:09.17 | Cae | but my browser needs root |
| 20:09.29 | Cae | why else would I use it? |
| 20:09.53 | pagefault | it makes it load pages faster! |
| 20:12.23 | pagefault | heh damn |
| 20:12.29 | pagefault | IE7 doesn't do SVG either |
| 20:12.54 | darth_mall | SVGs are just a passing fad |
| 20:13.00 | darth_mall | gif will reign forever! |
| 20:13.59 | purple_cow | heh |
| 20:14.01 | purple_cow | http://www.bustedtees.com/shirts/missouri |
| 20:14.06 | darth_mall | yep |
| 20:42.28 | KeyserWork | gotta go catch a plane |
| 20:49.42 | Sophie197 | doh, he left |
| 20:49.52 | Sophie197 | yay! He's coming home |
| 20:49.54 | darth_mall | I'm still here |
| 20:50.34 | Cae | :( |
| 20:51.02 | darth_mall | sad |
| 20:51.30 | Sophie197 | there will be others, I guess |
| 20:51.36 | CIA-11 | g2bridge: 03evan * r543 10documents/web/dev_guide.html: fix the title |
| 20:53.55 | Cae | I am not conscious enough to think about this right now.. |
| 20:57.02 | kergoth | Sophie[afk]: aw, that sucks :\ |
| 20:57.42 | kergoth | Cae: ugh. in wow, in stranglethorn, i just saved some dwarf hunter's ass by generating a ton of threat against this elite that was killing him.. then the dwarf stands there while it kills me. |
| 20:57.50 | kergoth | alliance bastards! |
| 20:59.17 | Cae | heh |
| 20:59.30 | purple_cow | hehehe, cool |
| 20:59.48 | purple_cow | apparently people have gone and made patches for xchat's fe-gtk to use libsexy for spell checking :) |
| 21:01.26 | purple_cow | http://forum.xchat.org/viewtopic.php?t=1523&highlight=xchatgnome |
| 21:05.33 | darth_mall | yay libsexy |
| 21:05.35 | darth_mall | yay me |
| 21:05.42 | darth_mall | or something |
| 21:05.43 | darth_mall | man I'm bored |
| 21:13.40 | ChipX86 | Sophie[afk]: :((( sorry |
| 21:16.29 | purple_cow | wow, cool |
| 21:16.42 | purple_cow | michael palin just put the full texts of all his travel books online |
| 21:17.01 | darth_mall | neat |
| 21:17.03 | darth_mall | hi ChipX86 |
| 21:17.07 | ChipX86 | hey |
| 21:20.04 | file[laptop] | pagefault: poke |
| 21:20.20 | pagefault | greetings |
| 21:20.35 | file[laptop] | what's your e-mail? I have a hilarious Travelocity commercial to forward |
| 21:20.41 | pagefault | pagefault@gmail.com |
| 21:21.01 | pagefault | it is with the gnome |
| 21:21.21 | file[laptop] | kk |
| 21:21.38 | file[laptop] | sending out |
| 21:22.25 | purple_cow | hehehe |
| 21:22.27 | purple_cow | http://www.cafepress.com/nosearch.12212390 |
| 21:23.06 | file[laptop] | sent |
| 21:24.48 | darth_mall | oooh |
| 21:24.55 | darth_mall | too bad it comes in yellow |
| 21:28.50 | pagefault | haha |
| 21:28.51 | pagefault | nice ad |
| 21:29.12 | file[laptop] | quite. |
| 21:30.24 | pagefault | is the QT the same file? |
| 21:34.00 | pagefault | X&Y is good |
| 21:35.48 | pagefault | is it weird if you can tell what kind of ink something is printed with by smellin git |
| 21:35.50 | file[laptop] | qt? |
| 21:35.56 | file[laptop] | hrm, Entourage must have done that |
| 21:36.58 | *** part/#tacobeam cwisty (~Christy@ec237-50-dhcp.colorado.edu) |
| 21:39.35 | darth_mall | what in the hell is vegan ground beef? |
| 21:39.43 | Cae | tofu? |
| 21:39.53 | Cae | bean curd? |
| 21:40.14 | darth_mall | so I'm thinking... ok, it's home made beeferoni sans meat |
| 21:40.21 | darth_mall | but no, it calls for vegan ground beef |
| 21:40.33 | Cae | weird |
| 21:40.47 | purple_cow | eww |
| 21:40.49 | darth_mall | or maybe it's vegan ground beef substitute |
| 21:40.57 | darth_mall | that's probably what the "sub." means |
| 21:41.03 | darth_mall | purple_cow: say hi for me ^^ |
| 21:45.25 | Cae | okay, home, good, yes.. |
| 21:48.14 | gonkulator | w00t |
| 21:48.20 | gonkulator | yay for a done project |
| 21:59.30 | numist | yay |
| 22:00.11 | pagefault | wow |
| 22:00.14 | pagefault | the MPAA has gone too far |
| 22:00.24 | pagefault | I can't use the HD-DVD format if my TV doesn't support HDMI |
| 22:00.25 | nullpuppy | what'd they do this time? |
| 22:00.27 | numist | just recently? |
| 22:00.29 | nullpuppy | oh |
| 22:00.45 | pagefault | they really like making enemies |
| 22:01.15 | pagefault | I can already tell you people aren't going to buy another TV to support their inferior format |
| 22:01.16 | nullpuppy | i don't think thats the fault of the mpaa necessarily though |
| 22:01.18 | numist | pagefault: their job isnt to be your friend, its to give you a license to watch the movies that they leased you |
| 22:01.26 | pagefault | it is because the MPAA is backing HD-DVD |
| 22:01.26 | nullpuppy | i think thats a flaw in the standard... |
| 22:01.32 | pagefault | HDMI = copy protection |
| 22:01.41 | pagefault | component video offers no protection |
| 22:04.06 | nullpuppy | ok, the inability to use HD-DVD without HDMI is false... you can't use the 1080i output without it or firewire thoug |
| 22:04.17 | nullpuppy | erm 1080p |
| 22:04.17 | pagefault | yeah so whats the point of using HD-DVD then? |
| 22:04.19 | pagefault | it's just a normal dvd |
| 22:04.25 | nullpuppy | you can still get analog out though |
| 22:04.30 | nullpuppy | higher capacity |
| 22:04.48 | nullpuppy | 45gb dvd... |
| 22:04.56 | ChipX86 | mmm backups |
| 22:05.12 | pagefault | well since hardly any tv's do 1080p that point is moot |
| 22:05.16 | nullpuppy | granted.. that appears to be 3 layer.. but still 15gb on 1 layer is almost 4x what you get with a standard dvd |
| 22:06.02 | pagefault | blu-ray is looking better though |
| 22:07.10 | pagefault | it's probably already going to be the defacto standard for HD recording |
| 22:07.38 | nullpuppy | yeah |
| 22:10.34 | pagefault | my server is really populated now |
| 22:15.49 | pagefault | I love my succubus |
| 22:16.30 | pagefault | best pet ever |
| 22:17.17 | ChipX86 | I hated mine |
| 22:17.26 | ChipX86 | she kept running around picking fights in instances when I was trying to keep my distance |
| 22:17.35 | ChipX86 | I also hate the whole soul shard thing, but that's my problem |
| 22:18.17 | pagefault | shards suck, yes |
| 22:18.19 | pagefault | but you get used to it |
| 22:18.31 | ChipX86 | I never did |
| 22:18.35 | ChipX86 | got mine up to l26 on an imp |
| 22:18.40 | pagefault | make her invisible if you don't want her attracting enemies |
| 22:18.53 | ChipX86 | I don't think I could back thenm |
| 22:19.25 | pagefault | if you can use your warlock well you can have the highest DPS class in the game |
| 22:20.17 | nullpuppy | haahaha, w00t! i just killed the windows install |
| 22:26.05 | pagefault | waiting for warsong... |
| 22:27.06 | darth_mall | so we put the latest safari to the acid2 test just now |
| 22:27.11 | darth_mall | it failed worse than firefox |
| 22:27.26 | pagefault | weird |
| 22:27.31 | nullpuppy | huh |
| 22:27.38 | pagefault | I thought it was supposed to pass |
| 22:27.51 | darth_mall | we ran it, it didn't work, so my dad looked for updates, found one, updated, ran it again, failed the same |
| 22:28.06 | nullpuppy | huh |
| 22:28.27 | darth_mall | it didn't look quite as bad as IE, but it was pretty bad |
| 22:32.38 | pagefault | wtf |
| 22:32.45 | pagefault | they fixed dark pact with a phased shifted imp |
| 22:32.48 | pagefault | but no new patch |
| 22:32.55 | pagefault | I didn't know they could fix it on the server side |
| 22:38.09 | ChipX86 | woot |
| 22:38.17 | ChipX86 | libnotify/notification-daemon is going into fedora *core* |
| 22:39.35 | kergoth | nice! |
| 22:40.04 | pagefault | I hate rogues |
| 22:40.10 | ChipX86 | and rogues hate you |
| 22:40.11 | kergoth | hehe |
| 22:40.13 | darth_mall | ChipX86: wicked |
| 22:40.17 | darth_mall | ChipX86: congratulations |
| 22:42.09 | pagefault | rogues are such a cheap class |
| 22:42.25 | pagefault | all you do is mash buttons |
| 22:47.21 | CIA-11 | OpenGameFramework: 03jeffm2501 * 10OGF/inc/ (animMesh.h modelManager.h): model manager fun |
| 22:47.25 | darth_mall | mmm... button mashing |
| 22:47.45 | Sophie[afk] | yay |
| 22:47.48 | darth_mall | yay |
| 22:47.58 | Sophie197 | I love music. |
| 22:48.01 | darth_mall | yeah |
| 22:48.04 | kergoth | mm, music |
| 22:48.10 | kergoth | especially the good kind |
| 22:48.44 | Sophie197 | kergoth: ever get that Stars album? |
| 22:49.19 | Sophie197 | some really good indie rock there.. hardly a bad track. |
| 22:49.40 | Sophie197 | I was just listening to it again |
| 22:50.24 | Sophie197 | darth_mall: I haven't given MM a fair listen, but I have most of their stuff. |
| 22:50.36 | darth_mall | we've had a few of their albums for a while |
| 22:50.46 | darth_mall | but the last time I tried listening to one all the way through I wasn't really in the mood |
| 22:50.58 | darth_mall | I've listened to bits and pieces, and singles on the radio, and I like what I've heard |
| 22:51.09 | darth_mall | but until just now I'd never really listened to a whole album |
| 22:51.09 | Sophie197 | yeah. |
| 22:51.24 | pagefault | hehe I just hate it because I have zero defense against a rogue |
| 22:51.41 | ChipX86 | rogues absolutely suck in BG |
| 22:51.44 | Sophie197 | I'm beginning to discover that albums *should* be listened to that way |
| 22:51.51 | darth_mall | ^^ |
| 22:52.01 | darth_mall | that's good |
| 22:52.03 | Sophie197 | I've always been a mixed-up playlist kinda girl. |
| 22:52.24 | darth_mall | until my brother convinced me a few years ago that that was the dark side ^^ |
| 22:52.31 | pagefault | got a ton of honor out of that match |
| 22:52.32 | pagefault | 3-0 |
| 22:52.34 | Sophie197 | :) |
| 22:54.18 | pagefault | rogues seem to do well at level 60 |
| 22:54.19 | pagefault | heh |
| 22:54.26 | pagefault | they have all their crappy crippling poison |
| 22:54.30 | pagefault | plus their cheap shot |
| 22:55.32 | kergoth | hehe. i love killing rogues, especially the stealth spec'd ones |
| 22:55.38 | CIA-11 | OpenGameFramework: 03jeffm2501 * 10OGF/src/ (animMesh.cpp modelManager.cpp): prepare for the removal of the evil animMesh |
| 22:55.45 | kergoth | drop a searing totem, flame shock... stealth? what steath? |
| 22:58.55 | hardwire | anybody know how to evaluate an expression in OpenOffice-calc? |
| 22:59.09 | hardwire | =SUM(EVAL("209-200")) |
| 22:59.19 | hardwire | something of that sort |
| 23:00.31 | purple_cow | woobdeedoo |
| 23:03.43 | purple_cow | for mid-range speakers, the reveals really have phenomenal bass response, but it could be so much better |
| 23:05.12 | pagefault | argh |
| 23:05.14 | pagefault | stupid piece of shit rogue |
| 23:05.16 | kergoth | ? |
| 23:05.18 | kergoth | lol |
| 23:05.19 | kergoth | bg? |
| 23:05.23 | pagefault | yes |
| 23:05.24 | darth_mall | purple_cow: do we have lemon juice at home? |
| 23:05.28 | pagefault | I can't do shit once I get attacked |
| 23:05.33 | kergoth | pagefault: you install warsong commander yet? :) |
| 23:05.37 | pagefault | all I can do is stand there |
| 23:05.39 | kergoth | :( |
| 23:05.43 | kergoth | stun lock eh |
| 23:05.47 | purple_cow | darth_mall: yes |
| 23:05.47 | pagefault | yes |
| 23:05.49 | pagefault | it's stupid cheap |
| 23:05.51 | darth_mall | excellent |
| 23:07.44 | CIA-11 | g2bridge: 03evan * r544 10documents/web/ (6 files): Add a bunch of place holders. |
| 23:08.59 | CIA-11 | g2bridge: 03evan * r545 10documents/web/ (api.html classes.html file_overview.html): Fix the nav bar in these three. |
| 23:09.26 | CIA-11 | g2bridge: 03evan * r546 10documents/web/api.html: Titles. |
| 23:09.37 | pagefault | haha |
| 23:09.38 | pagefault | fucking finally |
| 23:09.43 | pagefault | I hit that rogue up for 2000 damage |
| 23:10.03 | kergoth | nice |
| 23:11.29 | CIA-11 | g2bridge: 03evan * r547 10documents/web/ (classes.html file_overview.html): Fixing more titles. |
| 23:12.54 | pagefault | haha alliance sucks |
| 23:12.56 | pagefault | 3-0 again |
| 23:22.09 | CIA-11 | g2bridge: 03evan * r548 10documents/web/ (api.html classes.html configure_g2.html file_overview.html): |
| 23:22.09 | CIA-11 | g2bridge: I know they're just place holders, but that doesn't mean that they shouldn't be |
| 23:22.09 | CIA-11 | g2bridge: readable. |
| 23:22.22 | darth_mall | alright |
| 23:22.27 | darth_mall | I go grocery store, then home now. |
| 23:22.53 | kergoth | pagefault: hehe. does that happen often at high levels too? horde seems to win far more than it loses at my level range.. on suramar at any rate |
| 23:23.15 | purple_cow | haha |
| 23:23.36 | Sophie197 | who do you guys get domain names through? |
| 23:23.41 | ChipX86 | godaddy.com |
| 23:23.47 | ChipX86 | I have 0 complaints about them |
| 23:23.47 | Sophie197 | k |
| 23:23.53 | ChipX86 | although some disagree |
| 23:23.55 | purple_cow | the manual for the tannoy TS8 says "Remember that the object of a subwoofer is to enhance the output of your main speakers, not overpower it" |
| 23:24.25 | kergoth | i use godaddy as well with good results |
| 23:24.51 | file | this Indian client is going to make me go insane |
| 23:24.56 | ChipX86 | godaddy's interface is acceptable, their prices are good, and they allow optional, free full control over your DNS records |
| 23:25.46 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 23:26.19 | Sophie197 | k, sounds good |
| 23:26.48 | ChipX86 | VMware's bugzilla quips page: |
| 23:26.56 | ChipX86 | "They killed the Elite... RUN!!!" - Some Random Grunt" |
| 23:27.23 | file | I feel blehish |
| 23:27.26 | file | I'm gonna go have a shower |
| 23:28.05 | numist | purple_cow: that is fine musical equipment when they say that |
| 23:28.36 | pagefault | yeah |
| 23:28.39 | pagefault | the alliance sucks kergoth |
| 23:28.49 | pagefault | it's because of all the n00b kids that play them |
| 23:29.00 | purple_cow | numist: i -love- tannoy stuff |
| 23:29.09 | numist | purple_cow :) |
| 23:29.21 | numist | they have the right ideas in mind, thats for sure |
| 23:30.17 | purple_cow | yep |
| 23:30.49 | purple_cow | they'll be among the first purchases when i get a real job, since i have to give the stuff i use now back to the university |
| 23:31.02 | numist | yay |
| 23:32.56 | purple_cow | plus i'm super tickled by the idea of a 5.1 monitor setup |
| 23:34.55 | pagefault | idiots keep sheeping me |
| 23:34.59 | pagefault | keeps healing me :) |
| 23:35.00 | ChipX86 | did anyone here see Tripping the Rift last night? |
| 23:35.02 | ChipX86 | season 2? |
| 23:35.40 | purple_cow | pagefault: ...sheeping? |
| 23:36.07 | pagefault | yeah they polymorph you into a sheep |
| 23:36.23 | ChipX86 | it's such a cool spell, unless you're the target |
| 23:36.48 | pagefault | the alliance never uses it right |
| 23:36.49 | pagefault | I am about to die |
| 23:36.52 | pagefault | then they polymorph me |
| 23:36.55 | pagefault | so I get 100% health |
| 23:36.56 | ChipX86 | which heals you faster |
| 23:36.57 | ChipX86 | :) |
| 23:37.14 | ChipX86 | they probably think they can finish you off by doing that |
| 23:37.18 | pagefault | I like my new build |
| 23:37.23 | ChipX86 | you're a sheep! You can't protect yourself from arcane magic! |
| 23:37.25 | pagefault | i'm always in the top 5 in the BG |
| 23:37.29 | pagefault | and i'm only level 56 |
| 23:37.35 | ChipX86 | heh only.. |
| 23:37.42 | pagefault | well mostly everyone is 60 |
| 23:37.49 | ChipX86 | I will soon for the first time ever reach level 27 |
| 23:38.01 | pagefault | either everyone really sucks |
| 23:38.04 | pagefault | or I am doing a good job |
| 23:38.10 | pagefault | I like to think the second |
| 23:38.37 | pagefault | having instant cast spells in invaluable |
| 23:39.32 | pagefault | my favourite is curse of exhaustiona |
| 23:39.43 | pagefault | some guy is running with the flag and then I cast that and they come to a crawl |
| 23:39.54 | pagefault | then everyone crowds him :) |
| 23:39.57 | ChipX86 | :) |
| 23:40.57 | kergoth | pagefault: yeah, those sorts of spells rock |
| 23:41.12 | kergoth | pagefault: as a shaman, i'm great at that sort of thing.. both earthbind totem and frost shock.. |
| 23:49.30 | purple_cow | hey cool, a flumotion ebuild |
| 23:52.53 | ChipX86 | I do want to try a shaman sometime.. Just don't want to do these quests again :) |
| 23:53.10 | kergoth | hehe |
| 23:53.14 | kergoth | yeah, it gets old.. |
| 23:53.17 | kergoth | doing the low stuff over and over |
| 23:53.31 | kergoth | i'm heading to an area i've never been to soon :) |
| 23:53.33 | kergoth | the hinterlands |
| 23:53.35 | kergoth | have a quest for it |
| 23:54.30 | file | so much for having a shower |
| 23:54.49 | numist | :P |
| 23:54.56 | numist | damn it I thought I was in the other channel |
| 23:55.08 | numist | didnt even think "i dont remember kergoth playing" |
| 23:57.01 | kergoth | hehe |
| 23:57.51 | numist | *sigh* |
| 23:57.57 | numist | Im really tired, Im taking a nap |
