| 00:07.43 | ChipX86 | numist: ever get around to watching FLCL? |
| 00:13.21 | CIA-11 | covenant-misc: 03kergoth * r57 10KergothWOWBits/ (8 files in 3 dirs): Update ListFix to version a/R.1. |
| 00:13.52 | ChipX86 | ListFix? |
| 00:13.59 | pagefault_ | I should get these WoWBits |
| 00:14.10 | pagefault_ | you took the time to put it in SVN so it must be worth it |
| 00:20.13 | ChipX86 | they're good |
| 00:20.29 | numist | ChipX86: no, got caught up with theivery and working :( |
| 00:20.39 | numist | with any luck Ill see ep 1 tonight |
| 00:25.39 | kergoth | ChipX86: ListFix makes it so you can click outside of a dropdown, any dropdown, in wow, to close it. rather than having to click outside it within the dialog that spawned it. |
| 00:25.47 | kergoth | ChipX86: basically makes dropdowns in wow stop sucking. |
| 00:26.22 | ChipX86 | ah |
| 00:26.24 | ChipX86 | I never noticed |
| 00:26.28 | ChipX86 | where are dropdowns used? |
| 00:26.42 | kergoth | every right click menu in titan, etc |
| 00:26.45 | kergoth | inventory hawk |
| 00:26.47 | kergoth | numerous others |
| 00:26.50 | ChipX86 | ohh ok |
| 00:27.48 | kergoth | http://www.curse-gaming.com/mod.php?addid=1037 |
| 00:28.03 | kergoth | haha, yay |
| 00:28.04 | kergoth | http://www.curse-gaming.com/mod.php?addid=1303 |
| 00:28.10 | kergoth | BoogieBox: The Next Iteration. |
| 00:28.17 | kergoth | boogiebox is awesome |
| 00:28.36 | ChipX86 | I still haven't tried that |
| 00:28.41 | ChipX86 | I have it, but I never put music in the right palce |
| 00:28.59 | kergoth | pagefault_: boogiebox associates music with wow events. fights with normal guys starting and ending, elite battles, victory in a battle, flying on a bat/gryphon, dying, etc etc |
| 00:29.06 | kergoth | and of course, dancing |
| 00:29.22 | kergoth | good stuff, if you actually have wow's music enabled |
| 00:29.40 | ChipX86 | I should do that tonight |
| 00:29.45 | ChipX86 | play Final Fantasy music |
| 00:29.45 | kergoth | pagefault_: svn://hyperion.kergoth.com/misc/trunk/KergothWOWBits |
| 00:29.48 | kergoth | hehe |
| 00:29.54 | ChipX86 | that'd just rock so much, I don't know what I'm going to do with myself |
| 00:30.06 | kergoth | right now i'm using some sounds i found on curse gaming, but i'd like to start customizing it |
| 00:30.15 | kergoth | i have enough music for gods sake |
| 00:30.28 | kergoth | hehe, theres a new event.. "sailor" |
| 00:30.33 | kergoth | whenever you enter a coastal town |
| 00:30.35 | kergoth | liek booty bay |
| 00:30.40 | kergoth | it plays a seperate music clip |
| 00:30.41 | kergoth | fun |
| 00:31.20 | ChipX86 | aww |
| 00:31.29 | kergoth | pagefault_: http://kergoth.com/websvn/filedetails.php?repname=misc&path=%2Ftrunk%2FKergothWOWBits%2FChangeLog.TXT&rev=0&sc=0 |
| 00:31.29 | ChipX86 | Veight: look what you did |
| 00:31.32 | kergoth | heh |
| 00:31.33 | kergoth | :( |
| 00:31.43 | Veight | what did i do? |
| 00:31.57 | kergoth | yay, the warsong commander guy folded my suggestions for hiding the borders and things into his next release :) |
| 00:32.00 | ChipX86 | if you don't know, I'm not going to tell you. |
| 00:32.16 | kergoth | GOD i hate the wow volume bug |
| 00:33.23 | ChipX86 | resume the resumes! |
| 00:33.46 | kergoth | hehe |
| 00:33.48 | *** join/#tacobeam spooklight (~jamie@adsl-69-110-255-79.dsl.chic01.pacbell.net) |
| 00:33.51 | ChipX86 | yay! |
| 00:33.57 | spooklight | hehe oops! |
| 00:33.58 | ChipX86 | Veight: you're forgiven. |
| 00:34.07 | kergoth | Veight: mindplay is level 43. |
| 00:34.09 | Veight | what happened? |
| 00:34.10 | Veight | dam! |
| 00:35.05 | file[laptop] | bad Veight bad |
| 00:35.12 | Veight | im so lost |
| 00:35.16 | Veight | whats going on? |
| 00:35.19 | Veight | what did i do? |
| 00:35.31 | file[laptop] | who knows. |
| 00:36.11 | ChipX86 | Veight: you're never going to learn if you don't already know |
| 00:36.19 | Veight | yup |
| 00:37.23 | file[laptop] | Chip is VERY wise |
| 00:39.14 | Veight | just not like me |
| 00:42.36 | rioter | oh google.com/ig now has more personlisation |
| 00:42.46 | file[laptop] | it's cold... :\ |
| 00:43.04 | ChipX86 | rioter: it does? |
| 00:43.13 | rioter | yup |
| 00:43.35 | rioter | you can add your own rss feeds |
| 00:43.46 | ChipX86 | oh. Yeah, that was a little while back |
| 00:43.52 | ChipX86 | I thought you meant as of today |
| 00:45.24 | rioter | it only just showed up for me today :| |
| 00:45.28 | ChipX86 | oh |
| 00:45.31 | ChipX86 | I might be wrong |
| 00:45.36 | ChipX86 | I thought it was there earlier though |
| 00:45.47 | ChipX86 | you know what? I bet I'm thinking of gmail |
| 00:54.55 | purple_cow | oof |
| 00:55.02 | purple_cow | my dad is trying to defend fox news :P |
| 00:55.08 | ChipX86 | uh oh |
| 01:00.29 | purple_cow | silly phones without standard USB ports |
| 01:15.08 | *** topic/#tacobeam by hardwire -> How many chops would a woodchuck make if a woodchuck could be chopped? A: 2 |
| 01:16.00 | kergoth | depends on how many times you chop him |
| 01:16.07 | *** join/#tacobeam JeffM2501 (~jeffm@pool-71-109-223-157.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) |
| 01:16.39 | hardwire | chop chop |
| 01:18.33 | pagefault_ | what |
| 01:18.35 | pagefault_ | fox news |
| 01:18.42 | pagefault_ | I thought that was some fictional reality show |
| 01:18.49 | pagefault_ | heh |
| 01:19.37 | *** join/#tacobeam lalo (~lalo@221.122.43.98) |
| 01:19.53 | pagefault_ | hmm |
| 01:19.58 | pagefault_ | anyone got the new family guy movie? |
| 01:20.07 | pagefault_ | family guy movie was leaked |
| 01:20.10 | rioter | yeah |
| 01:20.15 | pagefault_ | any good? |
| 01:20.17 | rioter | just finished watching it actually |
| 01:20.29 | pagefault_ | worth the dl |
| 01:20.30 | rioter | yeah its not bad, pretty much a movie length episode |
| 01:20.33 | pagefault_ | cool |
| 01:20.39 | pagefault_ | worth it to buy on DVD? |
| 01:20.54 | rioter | mmm if your a family guy fan |
| 01:33.16 | *** join/#tacobeam laodamas (~cehoward@c-67-166-53-18.hsd1.co.comcast.net) |
| 01:37.50 | numist | 0_o |
| 01:38.06 | pagefault_ | wow |
| 01:38.11 | pagefault_ | did you know that birth control is now in a section called |
| 01:38.13 | pagefault_ | family planning |
| 01:38.16 | pagefault_ | I laughed |
| 01:39.05 | laodamas | What other CM system client requires four system services, three background processes, and a 250MB install? |
| 01:39.13 | hardwire | I cought a fish this weekend |
| 01:42.39 | laodamas | Hail random error numbers with no reference documentation! |
| 01:44.46 | laodamas | See the failed attempts at rebranding |
| 01:44.56 | laodamas | Witness the legacy windows 3.1 applications |
| 01:45.29 | laodamas | Loose yourself in thousands of pages of unhelpful documentation |
| 01:49.10 | laodamas | Gasp at the $1,000 PER SEAT licence fee |
| 01:59.39 | *** join/#tacobeam sbahra (~samy@212.76.82.173) |
| 02:30.37 | *** part/#tacobeam Veight (Veight@c-24-118-218-29.hsd1.mn.comcast.net) |
| 02:30.41 | *** join/#tacobeam Veight (Veight@c-24-118-218-29.hsd1.mn.comcast.net) |
| 02:47.33 | scanlime | whew |
| 02:47.39 | purple_cow | hiya scanlime! |
| 02:47.41 | numist | and suddenly he appears |
| 02:47.49 | file | yay scanlime |
| 02:47.55 | scanlime | just got home |
| 02:47.57 | scanlime | need.. food... |
| 02:48.47 | kergoth | can you tell that i'm planning prevenge? |
| 02:49.30 | numist | prevenge? sounds like fun |
| 02:49.34 | purple_cow | scanlime: so, learner had a suggestion |
| 02:49.57 | purple_cow | scanlime: apparently you're free to crash at the hotel we're in overnight, especially if you give us a lift to whatever place we end up going ;) |
| 02:52.01 | scanlime | cool |
| 02:52.28 | scanlime | ChipX86: I got it to build :) |
| 02:54.57 | scanlime | also, I was a bit overdressed :P |
| 02:56.00 | pagefault_ | hah |
| 02:56.03 | pagefault_ | 1273 crit |
| 02:56.07 | pagefault_ | and I don't even have ruin yet |
| 02:56.12 | pagefault_ | I love this character build |
| 02:56.38 | kergoth | i'm thinking about resetting my shaman for like the third time :P |
| 02:56.48 | pagefault_ | if I get ruin |
| 02:56.52 | pagefault_ | thats an automatic 100% crit bonus |
| 02:56.53 | pagefault_ | :) |
| 02:56.55 | kergoth | nice |
| 02:57.15 | pagefault_ | would have been like 2400 |
| 02:57.32 | pagefault_ | off a 2.5 second cast |
| 02:57.33 | pagefault_ | pwned |
| 02:57.58 | pagefault_ | pwned for like a good pvp |
| 02:58.03 | pagefault_ | thats why warlocks like crit gear |
| 02:59.30 | kergoth | pagefault_: i swear, its no longer possible for me to play bg without getting pissed off, and not at the alliance. |
| 02:59.52 | pagefault_ | then at what? |
| 03:00.22 | kergoth | the fucking bloodthirsty idiots on my team that would rather running around the center of wsg killing and dying than actually defend the flag or take theirs |
| 03:00.39 | kergoth | s/running/run/ |
| 03:02.39 | scanlime | hehe |
| 03:03.00 | scanlime | my parents just ran across my linuxworld interview on google |
| 03:03.28 | scanlime | Dad did a search for my name trying to find my photo gallery, and didn't expect it to come back with 11 pages of stuff ;) |
| 03:05.55 | purple_cow | heh |
| 03:06.03 | pagefault_ | wow |
| 03:06.08 | pagefault_ | my name has 897k results |
| 03:06.12 | *** join/#tacobeam lalo (~lalo@221.122.43.98) |
| 03:07.04 | scanlime | how many are actually you? |
| 03:07.13 | pagefault_ | probably 10 or os |
| 03:07.14 | pagefault_ | so |
| 03:07.24 | scanlime | hehe |
| 03:07.39 | pagefault_ | I thought mine was |
| 03:07.48 | pagefault_ | it's weird how so many people can have the same first and last name |
| 03:07.58 | purple_cow | that no-talent assclown artist still owns my name :( |
| 03:08.14 | kergoth | i hate my name, not very distinctive at all |
| 03:08.31 | pagefault_ | John Smith? |
| 03:09.49 | sbahra | John Doe |
| 03:10.07 | sbahra | scanlime: Where is your family from originally? |
| 03:10.26 | sbahra | scanlime: Sounds very Netherland-esque, your name. :) |
| 03:10.26 | scanlime | how originally? |
| 03:10.32 | scanlime | :P |
| 03:10.47 | sbahra | scanlime: So? |
| 03:10.48 | scanlime | my parents are from louisiana.. not sure about my family history |
| 03:10.53 | sbahra | Oh, I see. |
| 03:11.15 | spooklight | ChipX86, you still there? |
| 03:11.39 | spooklight | hello :) |
| 03:12.06 | scanlime | so I got to feel special today |
| 03:12.17 | scanlime | most account names at vmware are apparently just first initial then last name |
| 03:12.36 | scanlime | mine is 'micah'.. nice and unique, plus it's the same login I use everywhere else |
| 03:12.51 | scanlime | and I get micah at vmware.com :) |
| 03:13.23 | numist | nice |
| 03:13.50 | sbahra | scanlime: You work for VMware now? |
| 03:14.02 | scanlime | yes |
| 03:14.16 | scanlime | today was my first day |
| 03:14.25 | sbahra | scanlime: Oh, cool. Congratulations! :) |
| 03:14.32 | sbahra | scanlime: Where are you located? |
| 03:14.33 | scanlime | thanks |
| 03:14.50 | scanlime | I work in the Porter building, at VMware's headquarters in Palo Alto, CA |
| 03:14.50 | sbahra | Not around ChipX86? |
| 03:14.57 | scanlime | living in Sunnyvale |
| 03:15.04 | scanlime | yeah, real close to ChipX86 |
| 03:15.06 | numist | sbahra: yes near ChipX86 |
| 03:15.11 | sbahra | scanlime: Cool. :) |
| 03:15.16 | sbahra | ChipX86: Congratulations to you too then ;) |
| 03:15.23 | sbahra | scanlime: So, what do you do there? |
| 03:15.44 | scanlime | so far I read email, eat free food, and wait for vmware to compile |
| 03:15.58 | sbahra | haha, ok. |
| 03:16.04 | sbahra | Well, cool. :) |
| 03:16.08 | scanlime | but I'm on USB and/or 3D graphics and/or X11 stuff |
| 03:16.15 | scanlime | they're still fighting over who gets to give me work first |
| 03:23.06 | scanlime | purple_cow: how'd the pie taste? |
| 03:24.27 | purple_cow | scanlime: it's fantastic :D |
| 03:25.00 | scanlime | yay |
| 03:26.20 | nullpuppy | mmm, 8 hr old arby's sammich |
| 03:26.32 | scanlime | eww |
| 03:27.08 | nullpuppy | hehe |
| 03:27.15 | nullpuppy | so how was yer first day? |
| 03:27.43 | Veight | wow |
| 03:27.48 | Veight | some servers will be down for 24 hours tomarrow |
| 03:27.56 | Veight | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-realm-status&t=1803&p=1&tmp=1#post1803 |
| 03:28.11 | nullpuppy | which? |
| 03:28.38 | Veight | not suramar :) |
| 03:28.58 | nullpuppy | yay |
| 03:29.11 | nullpuppy | not that it matters much for me anyways.. working all day tomorrow |
| 03:30.32 | Veight | heh my friend's server is on the list |
| 03:30.46 | kergoth | heh |
| 03:32.37 | rioter | http://mosnews.com/news/2005/07/25/spammerdead.shtml |
| 03:42.03 | Veight | out of no where gaim decided to take up 50% of my cpu |
| 03:42.05 | pagefault_ | haw |
| 03:42.07 | pagefault_ | wikipedia has pr0n |
| 03:42.13 | pagefault_ | but they don't post the goatse image |
| 03:42.14 | nullpuppy | hrm, rioter you have a good torrent or link to the family guy movie? |
| 03:43.24 | laodamas | http://www.torrentspy.com/download.asp?id=363424 |
| 03:43.37 | laodamas | 1500 seeds :) |
| 03:44.08 | nullpuppy | thanks :) |
| 03:44.23 | rioter | http://www.mininova.org/get/78646 |
| 03:44.26 | rioter | probably the same one |
| 03:45.35 | nullpuppy | hrm, which ports does bt use again? |
| 03:46.10 | rioter | 6881-6889 |
| 03:50.24 | nullpuppy | hrm.. can you give iptables a range of ports instead of manually listing em all? |
| 03:51.57 | kergoth | yep. iirc its : as the seperator or something |
| 03:52.04 | kergoth | been a while since i messed with that though |
| 03:52.36 | nullpuppy | hmm, ok |
| 03:56.35 | ChipX86 | finally back |
| 03:57.35 | ChipX86 | been on the phone with my grandpa for several hours. Wasn't easy to get off |
| 03:57.43 | ChipX86 | scanlime: how'd you like your first day? |
| 03:57.47 | ChipX86 | spooklight: heya |
| 03:58.06 | ChipX86 | oh man I'm hungry. Didn't eat nearly enough today |
| 03:59.04 | ChipX86 | brb |
| 03:59.50 | scanlime | ChipX86: not bad. I got a working build |
| 04:01.14 | ChipX86 | nice |
| 04:01.24 | spooklight | ChipX86, hey |
| 04:01.43 | ChipX86 | spooklight: hey, sorry I didn't see your reply earlier. Didn't have the laptop on |
| 04:01.47 | scanlime | ChipX86: I think I was a bit overdressed... methinks jeans and some kind of buttonful shirt are in order tomorrow |
| 04:01.50 | scanlime | :P |
| 04:01.59 | ChipX86 | I decided it was time to call my grandpa (the talkative anti-everything one). It went well actually |
| 04:02.04 | ChipX86 | scanlime: yep |
| 04:02.09 | ChipX86 | scanlime: first day it's okay to be overdressed |
| 04:02.14 | spooklight | ChipX86, that's ok |
| 04:02.15 | ChipX86 | I walk around in socks usually though |
| 04:02.20 | ChipX86 | Philip walks around barefoot |
| 04:02.21 | numist | after that its punishable by a swim in the fountain :P |
| 04:02.21 | scanlime | :) |
| 04:02.30 | ChipX86 | numist: nah, only if you're getting married :D |
| 04:02.36 | ChipX86 | ooh, which scanline gets to see soon |
| 04:02.41 | scanlime | ChipX86: this is my first big company, so I get paranoid.. but I really like the atmosphere |
| 04:02.41 | numist | nice |
| 04:03.02 | scanlime | hmm |
| 04:03.11 | ChipX86 | yeah, that's understandable |
| 04:03.16 | ChipX86 | it's very relaxed there though |
| 04:03.24 | ChipX86 | they don't care if you're not at your desk all the time |
| 04:03.24 | scanlime | indeed |
| 04:03.30 | ChipX86 | I like to just go outside by the pond and stand there for a bit |
| 04:03.34 | scanlime | the office next to mine has a game cube in it :) |
| 04:03.37 | ChipX86 | nice |
| 04:03.50 | ChipX86 | when are your team's gaming sessions usually? |
| 04:03.53 | scanlime | apparently super smash bros. is a popular pastime with the mks group |
| 04:04.02 | ChipX86 | nice |
| 04:04.04 | scanlime | I think wednesdayish, between meetings and lunch |
| 04:04.10 | ChipX86 | oh cool |
| 04:04.18 | scanlime | tomorrow we're heading out for thai food |
| 04:04.22 | scanlime | but you probably got that email |
| 04:04.30 | ChipX86 | well, if you want to join us on Fridays, we're usually in Big F or Little F (I'll show you where those are sometime) playing something on gamecube |
| 04:04.40 | scanlime | nice |
| 04:04.45 | ChipX86 | maybe. I haven't checked since I left work |
| 04:05.08 | ChipX86 | what'd you think of the VP's office? ;) |
| 04:05.09 | scanlime | I don't remember seeing anything in the paperwork about hours. I assume they just expect you to show up whenever you need to in order to get your job done? |
| 04:05.15 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 04:05.18 | ChipX86 | there are no hours |
| 04:05.20 | scanlime | not sure I saw that |
| 04:05.28 | ChipX86 | just attend meetings, and make sure the work gets done |
| 04:05.30 | darth_mall | hey scanlime, how was the first day? |
| 04:05.42 | rioter | wow, i want that job |
| 04:05.43 | ChipX86 | scanlime: the little room we were standing in that was inbetween the hallway and my office |
| 04:05.51 | scanlime | darth_mall: pretty good. Went to orientation, installed ubuntu, talked to people, got a working build |
| 04:05.59 | ChipX86 | with the cubicle wall |
| 04:06.05 | scanlime | ah |
| 04:06.11 | darth_mall | oh noes! |
| 04:06.15 | darth_mall | you're one of those ubuntu people |
| 04:06.19 | scanlime | well, by 'working' it had some quirks... |
| 04:06.25 | scanlime | but I got win2k to boot in it |
| 04:06.25 | ChipX86 | it's not my fault! |
| 04:06.29 | ChipX86 | what quirks? |
| 04:06.40 | scanlime | ChipX86: your lousy GUI code crashes when it can't find any of the data files it needs ;) |
| 04:06.46 | ChipX86 | not my fault! |
| 04:06.48 | darth_mall | LOUSY! |
| 04:06.50 | ChipX86 | wizards are my fault |
| 04:06.51 | scanlime | hehe |
| 04:06.52 | ChipX86 | icons.. |
| 04:06.56 | ChipX86 | most dialogs |
| 04:06.59 | scanlime | this was right after the new VM wizard runs |
| 04:07.01 | ChipX86 | theme stuff |
| 04:07.03 | ChipX86 | oh |
| 04:07.05 | ChipX86 | that's my fault |
| 04:07.13 | kergoth | lol |
| 04:07.17 | ChipX86 | feel free to submit a bug to me :) |
| 04:07.19 | ChipX86 | christian@vmware.com |
| 04:07.27 | scanlime | I tried running the old win2k build VM, got that somewhat working.. but it was in need of a tools upgrade pretty badly, and my build couldn't find the ISO for vmware tools |
| 04:07.28 | scanlime | hehe |
| 04:07.28 | darth_mall | bad ChipX86 |
| 04:07.33 | darth_mall | breaking scanlime's first build |
| 04:07.36 | ChipX86 | :) |
| 04:07.40 | scanlime | well, at this point I'm assuming every problem is one of my build screwups and not a real bug |
| 04:07.40 | ChipX86 | you should see what I'm about to do! |
| 04:07.43 | file | I need headphones |
| 04:07.47 | ChipX86 | all hell will break loose in only a few days |
| 04:07.48 | pagefault_ | me too |
| 04:07.54 | scanlime | I had a hard enough time just figuring out which NFS server went where |
| 04:07.55 | ChipX86 | brb, getting food |
| 04:07.57 | pagefault_ | the ones I want are $300 though |
| 04:07.59 | ChipX86 | scanlime: hah yeah |
| 04:08.28 | purple_cow | yay, all home |
| 04:08.31 | scanlime | anyway.. it's nice having a working computer :) |
| 04:08.34 | file | I'm being productive and working on my presentation |
| 04:08.43 | pagefault_ | productivity is overrated |
| 04:08.45 | scanlime | my linux machine at work is easily twice as fast as yoshi, and infinitely more reliable so far |
| 04:08.50 | purple_cow | for people in boulder, pie is up for grabs |
| 04:08.51 | file | true but I have a week to get it done |
| 04:08.57 | scanlime | purple_cow: =( |
| 04:09.02 | scanlime | purple_cow: fedex? |
| 04:09.07 | file | mmm pie |
| 04:09.11 | darth_mall | e-mail! |
| 04:09.24 | purple_cow | scanlime: i'll bake a pie when you come here :P |
| 04:09.32 | scanlime | hehe |
| 04:09.33 | scanlime | ok |
| 04:10.03 | pagefault_ | what the hell is a human mage wearing garters for |
| 04:10.21 | darth_mall | what isn't he wearing them for? |
| 04:10.32 | file | pagefault_: pccanada shipped out my stuff today, should arrive Wednesday :) |
| 04:10.47 | pagefault_ | darth_mall, well maybe it helps them cast spells better |
| 04:10.50 | pagefault_ | file, neato |
| 04:11.02 | purple_cow | i'd bring a piece to CA, but by that point it'd be almost a week old, and probably pretty soggy |
| 04:11.14 | file | might be dangerous to eat too |
| 04:11.29 | file | gah dang it I'm stuck on this Haddaway album, it's making me productive |
| 04:11.29 | scanlime | yeah |
| 04:11.34 | pagefault_ | bring some booze |
| 04:11.36 | pagefault_ | gets better with age |
| 04:12.13 | pagefault_ | well not in the case of beer |
| 04:13.02 | file | is it decent enough to say that something has existed since the first day a post went on it's mailing list? |
| 04:13.14 | numist | sure |
| 04:13.20 | pagefault_ | first post! |
| 04:13.35 | file | k |
| 04:13.52 | pagefault_ | even wikipedia documents the first post thing |
| 04:14.21 | file | we're giving away free VoIP hardware, but I can't enter :( |
| 04:14.30 | pagefault_ | cool |
| 04:14.30 | pagefault_ | can I |
| 04:14.31 | file | let's see how much it totals in hardware |
| 04:14.32 | pagefault_ | I could use some |
| 04:14.48 | pagefault_ | I can always use hardware |
| 04:16.34 | file | the hardware totals $4308.85 |
| 04:16.51 | pagefault_ | thats expensive hardware |
| 04:17.00 | pagefault_ | what does it consist of? |
| 04:17.02 | file | well a single Sangoma single span card is $600 |
| 04:17.10 | file | http://www.cluecon.com/ complete list there |
| 04:17.37 | pagefault_ | what do these cards do anyway, bring in a phone line into a VoIP network? |
| 04:17.46 | file | a PRI |
| 04:17.54 | file | which is voice shoved down a T1 |
| 04:17.59 | file | 23 voice channels, one data |
| 04:18.08 | pagefault_ | T1 like the analog line? |
| 04:18.15 | file | well it's digital |
| 04:18.32 | kergoth | hmmm |
| 04:18.39 | pagefault_ | why use that instead of ethernet? |
| 04:18.47 | file | you get a PRI from the telephone company |
| 04:19.04 | file | or you can connect the card to a channel bank, and split out analog lines |
| 04:19.34 | kergoth | mmm, 15 year glenmorangie |
| 04:19.47 | darth_mall | oooh |
| 04:19.55 | kergoth | oh scotch, how i've missed thee! |
| 04:19.58 | kergoth | ;) |
| 04:20.30 | pagefault_ | mmm scotch |
| 04:20.38 | pagefault_ | butterscotch |
| 04:20.44 | kergoth | bah, you and your silly butter |
| 04:21.01 | pagefault_ | is this butterscotch sans butter? |
| 04:21.28 | kergoth | ooh, pie. |
| 04:21.47 | ChipX86 | back |
| 04:22.35 | pagefault_ | front |
| 04:23.15 | numist | side |
| 04:24.00 | kergoth | i need to buy some glasses |
| 04:24.06 | pagefault_ | damn |
| 04:24.10 | pagefault_ | way to break the pattern kergoth |
| 04:24.14 | kergoth | i have no glasses suitable for scotch. using one of those ones that you drink brandy/congac out of |
| 04:24.18 | kergoth | yep, thats me, the rebel |
| 04:24.19 | file | the government is too slow |
| 04:24.23 | file | I want my papers that say I'm a business |
| 04:24.41 | pagefault_ | 123098213098 New Brunswick Inc |
| 04:24.51 | scanlime | brrr |
| 04:25.09 | pagefault_ | they give you a number don't they? |
| 04:25.11 | file | I need to email two people, yay\ |
| 04:25.13 | file | pagefault_: yeah |
| 04:25.29 | pagefault_ | hmm |
| 04:25.33 | pagefault_ | you could write off swiss chalet |
| 04:25.50 | file | hehe |
| 04:25.55 | file | I'm writing off my internet, cellphone, etc |
| 04:26.10 | file | ugh don't tell me I have to log into two intranets to get this user info |
| 04:27.08 | nullpuppy | you don't have to log into two intranets |
| 04:27.14 | nullpuppy | you have to log into three! |
| 04:27.52 | file | hehe |
| 04:28.00 | file | I dunno if a coworker already e-mailed these people or not, so I will |
| 04:28.03 | pagefault_ | interweb |
| 04:28.04 | file | er well no I won't |
| 04:28.04 | scanlime | butterless butterscotch? |
| 04:28.13 | file | if they're still doing what they're doing tomorrow morning, I'll e-mail them :) |
| 04:28.24 | pagefault_ | margerinescotch |
| 04:28.33 | purple_cow | kergoth: heh. that's how i felt when drinking white wine out of burgundy glasses! |
| 04:28.35 | darth_mall | here it comes... |
| 04:28.40 | darth_mall | I can't believe it's not butterscotch |
| 04:28.52 | purple_cow | hmm...wine |
| 04:29.01 | pagefault_ | darth_mall, truly great |
| 04:29.54 | pagefault_ | haha I love this futurama episode with the robot girlfriend |
| 04:30.04 | pagefault_ | it's so great that you NOTICE TWO THINGS |
| 04:30.31 | pagefault_ | you should write a book about the CAN EAT MORE |
| 04:30.44 | scanlime | hehe |
| 04:30.45 | scanlime | yep |
| 04:30.48 | kergoth | The coffee's cold, did i forget to drink it yet? |
| 04:30.51 | kergoth | did i forget? |
| 04:31.00 | pagefault_ | are you drunk yet? |
| 04:31.14 | scanlime | purple_cow: vmware has more disk space than navi :( |
| 04:31.25 | kergoth | heh, no |
| 04:31.29 | scanlime | purple_cow: you need to make fembot even bigger, so it can compete |
| 04:31.37 | purple_cow | darth_mall: yep |
| 04:31.41 | scanlime | darth_mall: yeah, p.t.c has links to all the feeds |
| 04:32.40 | pagefault_ | I like the little tux with the headset on cluecon's site |
| 04:32.47 | pagefault_ | it's very fitting for him |
| 04:32.53 | scanlime | is there anything on yours yet? I noticed it earlier today, but there weren't any posts |
| 04:32.57 | ChipX86 | scanlime: what time are you going in tomorrow, and leaving? |
| 04:32.57 | pagefault_ | but why the MS keyboard, tux would never use a Microsoft product |
| 04:33.23 | scanlime | ChipX86: not sure. all I know about that's scheduled is this lunch |
| 04:33.32 | ChipX86 | ok |
| 04:33.45 | darth_mall | scanlime: I only created it so that I'd have a picture by the comment I made on yours |
| 04:33.46 | ChipX86 | 10 is probably fine |
| 04:33.47 | pagefault_ | ooh first day at vmware? |
| 04:33.48 | ChipX86 | I get in at 11 |
| 04:34.02 | scanlime | darth_mall: that's what I figured :) |
| 04:34.02 | ChipX86 | there will be some people before 10, but 10 is when people typically get in |
| 04:34.07 | scanlime | ok |
| 04:34.21 | darth_mall | plus, I found it humorous that I now have a livejournal thingy |
| 04:34.22 | scanlime | traffic isn't nearly what numist made it out to be :) |
| 04:34.32 | pagefault_ | i've had a livejournal for a long time |
| 04:34.33 | scanlime | 30 minutes from leaving my apartment door to pulling into the parking lot at hillview |
| 04:34.35 | pagefault_ | but I never update it |
| 04:36.25 | ChipX86 | scanlime: of course, you'll want to go to porter :) |
| 04:36.38 | scanlime | well, yeah |
| 04:36.53 | scanlime | parked at hillview for orientation, shuttled to porter with the group, then walked back |
| 04:37.24 | scanlime | pagefault_: today was my first day yeah |
| 04:38.16 | numist | scanlime: I occasionaly exagerate, and even more often understate... tricky, eh? |
| 04:38.22 | pagefault_ | scanlime, so I guess ChipX86 gets to boss you around |
| 04:38.25 | scanlime | mmmyes |
| 04:38.28 | pagefault_ | scanlime, or something like that |
| 04:38.30 | ChipX86 | we're in different areas |
| 04:38.30 | scanlime | pagefault_: we're on different teams |
| 04:38.32 | pagefault_ | ahh |
| 04:38.40 | nullpuppy | hmm, this is soo tempting... picking up an MSI S270 (Turion 64 MT30) |
| 04:38.43 | ChipX86 | but I have connections. |
| 04:38.52 | file | I have 3 bosses, so when I screw up they all tell me about it |
| 04:38.58 | scanlime | pagefault_: ChipX86 works on the stuff that users actually care about ;) |
| 04:39.00 | ChipX86 | I'll talk to Regis, who will talk to MattG, who will boss around scanline |
| 04:39.06 | pagefault_ | scanlime, what will you be doing there? |
| 04:39.24 | scanlime | virtual devices |
| 04:39.25 | ChipX86 | he's going to make our drivers support composite and xdamage! |
| 04:39.28 | ChipX86 | :( |
| 04:39.30 | scanlime | =D |
| 04:39.35 | pagefault_ | nice |
| 04:39.35 | ChipX86 | had to try |
| 04:39.41 | pagefault_ | ahah |
| 04:39.42 | pagefault_ | oh |
| 04:39.45 | scanlime | well, I did hear mention of X11 work for me... |
| 04:39.49 | ChipX86 | :) |
| 04:39.56 | scanlime | but it seems most likely they'll give me USB stuff first |
| 04:40.13 | pagefault_ | firewire passthrough would be useful |
| 04:40.18 | pagefault_ | so I can use this scanner |
| 04:41.21 | scanlime | heh |
| 04:41.42 | pagefault_ | yeah probably |
| 04:41.47 | pagefault_ | but I just said it would be useful :) |
| 04:41.50 | ChipX86 | not only is it low priority, but we don't have firewire at all! |
| 04:42.06 | ChipX86 | and if you do, that means more work for me to create the device classes and all the other infrastructure! awww |
| 04:42.07 | pagefault_ | so how long until vmware runs macos x |
| 04:42.15 | ChipX86 | (I do far more than just putting buttons on a screen) |
| 04:42.27 | numist | yeah, and how long until vmware runs on a mac? |
| 04:42.36 | pagefault_ | nah I meant macos x support for x86 |
| 04:43.03 | pagefault_ | but probably vmware will get a macos port when the new macs come out |
| 04:43.12 | ChipX86 | "probably" he says |
| 04:43.27 | pagefault_ | well I think thats a resonable observation |
| 04:43.46 | pagefault_ | i'm sure steve jobs will hate you |
| 04:45.36 | kergoth | hmm |
| 04:46.25 | nullpuppy | damn this is tempting... only a 12.1" screen though.. hrm |
| 04:46.26 | scanlime | the problem with x86 MacOS X is that they only implemented the exact hardware devices that they ship on their dev platform |
| 04:46.34 | scanlime | so vmware would need a whole new set of virtual devices |
| 04:47.26 | nullpuppy | that actually shouldn't be all that difficult though.. once you know what devices its using... |
| 04:47.40 | nullpuppy | and.. the intel dev box apparently will run xp as well... so.. |
| 04:47.42 | ChipX86 | and we'd need a whole new UI team |
| 04:47.42 | scanlime | nullpuppy: it involves writing a lot of code :P |
| 04:47.49 | nullpuppy | well... yeah :) |
| 04:47.53 | ChipX86 | and there's a lot of other things we'd need |
| 04:47.56 | nullpuppy | but still :) it'd be possible |
| 04:49.37 | purple_cow | nullpuppy: what is "this" ? |
| 04:49.39 | scanlime | hah.. I practically drove right by the Apple campus on the way home from work today |
| 04:49.54 | nullpuppy | purple_cow: http://www.msicomputer.com/NB/product_spec.asp?model=S270 |
| 04:50.25 | nullpuppy | and there are discounts right now for resellers.. so it'd be even cheaper |
| 04:50.30 | nullpuppy | its not a bad setup |
| 04:50.33 | purple_cow | oof, heavy |
| 04:50.57 | nullpuppy | the last few laptops i've had are significantly heavier :) |
| 04:51.00 | nullpuppy | i can deal with 4lbs |
| 04:51.52 | scanlime | hmm, yeah.. Infinite Loop is just on the other side of I-280, at the same exit I got off at |
| 04:52.01 | pagefault_ | kergoth, we should have a gnome cookout |
| 04:52.05 | pagefault_ | i'll bring the gnome |
| 04:52.10 | kergoth | hehe |
| 04:53.34 | kergoth | pagefault_: did you see http://64.233.161.104/search?q=cache:yffYbWRyatEJ:www.giantitp.com/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl%3Fboard%3Dbanter%3Baction%3Ddisplay%3Bnum%3D1121487866+&hl=en&client=firefox-a |
| 04:53.42 | kergoth | heh, had to use the cache, site is down |
| 04:53.47 | kergoth | bleh |
| 04:53.59 | *** join/#tacobeam lalo (~lalo@221.122.43.98) |
| 04:54.07 | pagefault_ | google cache is too slow |
| 04:54.34 | file | my presentation is 18 slides in Keynote, plus a live demonstration |
| 04:54.39 | kergoth | 100 things Mr. Welch can no longer do in an RPG |
| 04:54.49 | pagefault_ | yeah I got that part |
| 04:54.51 | pagefault_ | still loading :) |
| 04:54.53 | kergoth | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:55.01 | kergoth | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:55.06 | pagefault_ | I thought that was the succubus |
| 04:55.09 | pagefault_ | number 65 |
| 04:55.10 | kergoth | hehe |
| 04:55.17 | file | wow 10.3MB exported to Powerpoint format |
| 04:55.20 | kergoth | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:55.22 | sbahra | http://www.zerodayinitiative.com/ |
| 04:55.23 | sbahra | Cool. |
| 04:55.38 | pagefault_ | hahaha |
| 04:56.06 | nullpuppy | rofl |
| 04:56.15 | kergoth | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:56.28 | kergoth | hehe |
| 04:56.31 | nullpuppy | haha |
| 04:56.47 | kergoth | :) |
| 04:56.55 | nullpuppy | not sure when the time I play is though |
| 04:57.02 | nullpuppy | just had a killer fight on saturday, 9hrs... |
| 04:57.12 | pagefault_ | 9 hours? |
| 04:57.17 | pagefault_ | thats a lot of gnome punting |
| 04:57.29 | nullpuppy | 5 lvl 12/13's against 6 of us.. (i'm lvl 7 right now...) |
| 04:57.32 | kergoth | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:57.34 | kergoth | hahaha |
| 04:57.43 | nullpuppy | haha, we're mostly elves/human |
| 04:57.43 | nullpuppy | ROFL |
| 04:58.05 | pagefault_ | hmm |
| 04:58.10 | nullpuppy | we don't have lawful good in our campaigns :) we have lawful stupid |
| 04:58.11 | pagefault_ | there is some S&M pr0n on tv |
| 04:58.17 | pagefault_ | the value you get for your cable dollars |
| 04:58.17 | kergoth | nullpuppy: hah |
| 04:58.47 | nullpuppy | hmm, theres like.. nothing to drink here.. i should go buy some coolaid and stuff |
| 04:59.06 | pagefault_ | buy some vodka to go with that |
| 04:59.07 | file | pagefault_: silly pagefault watching it |
| 04:59.09 | pagefault_ | it makes it drinkable |
| 04:59.15 | pagefault_ | file, I deny everything |
| 04:59.27 | kergoth | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:59.28 | kergoth | aww :( |
| 04:59.29 | file | uh huh |
| 04:59.32 | pagefault_ | file, I am just channel surfing :) |
| 04:59.40 | purple_cow | hmm, drink |
| 05:00.23 | pagefault_ | I think a walk to the beer frige is in order here |
| 05:00.27 | pagefault_ | err fridge |
| 05:00.32 | pagefault_ | I can't type |
| 05:00.36 | file | pagefault_: anything good on? |
| 05:00.36 | nullpuppy | pagefault_: haha, i think i have vodka still.. don't need to worry about that :) |
| 05:00.42 | kergoth | mmm.. /me goes to get another scotch |
| 05:01.08 | pagefault_ | file, not really, just king of the hill |
| 05:01.33 | file | k |
| 05:02.13 | pagefault_ | and the afformentioned entertainment |
| 05:02.37 | pagefault_ | amazingly it's not on showcase |
| 05:03.23 | pagefault_ | haha |
| 05:03.26 | pagefault_ | but showcase is showing something |
| 05:03.36 | pagefault_ | a dot com millionaire develops a bond with a stripper |
| 05:03.50 | file[laptop] | nudity! ahhhhh! |
| 05:04.33 | pagefault_ | yep |
| 05:04.35 | pagefault_ | hide the children |
| 05:05.56 | file[laptop] | I need to refine my presentation over the next week |
| 05:06.02 | file[laptop] | but atleast I won't show up empty handed and paniced |
| 05:06.05 | pagefault_ | add some tacky animations |
| 05:06.10 | file[laptop] | I already did |
| 05:06.18 | file[laptop] | I use the same slide transition 18 times *G* |
| 05:06.24 | file[laptop] | the Apple cube thing |
| 05:06.43 | pagefault_ | cool |
| 05:06.47 | pagefault_ | now add a sound effect |
| 05:06.50 | pagefault_ | like a wooooosh |
| 05:06.51 | file[laptop] | ha no |
| 05:06.54 | file[laptop] | that would be pushing it :P |
| 05:07.11 | pagefault_ | ok you are right, you should do the sound effect yourself |
| 05:07.18 | file[laptop] | exactly |
| 05:07.52 | file[laptop] | there's someone going that I want to strangle |
| 05:08.01 | file[laptop] | so I'm trying to isolate him in his own room, far away from mine |
| 05:08.34 | scanlime | haha |
| 05:08.43 | scanlime | I put everything in my fridge into webtender, out of curiosity |
| 05:08.54 | scanlime | apparently I can make irish coffee and lemonade |
| 05:08.57 | file[laptop] | lol |
| 05:09.07 | lalo | is fresco officially dead yet? |
| 05:09.09 | pagefault_ | hmm I don't think I would want to try that |
| 05:09.18 | pagefault_ | oh two drinks |
| 05:09.25 | pagefault_ | I thought irish coffee and lemonade was the combination |
| 05:09.31 | kergoth | hehe |
| 05:09.35 | scanlime | hH |
| 05:09.39 | scanlime | er, hah |
| 05:10.08 | scanlime | oh, and I can make sour mix |
| 05:10.21 | pagefault_ | you could always make the drink 'whiskey' too |
| 05:10.36 | file[laptop] | pagefault_: this movie on showcase sux |
| 05:10.45 | pagefault_ | file, haha you actually went to look at it |
| 05:10.50 | file[laptop] | yes |
| 05:10.54 | ChipX86 | http://www.deviantart.com/view/20993254/ |
| 05:11.03 | scanlime | pagefault_: I don't have any whiskey |
| 05:11.11 | pagefault_ | scanlime, hmm how can you make an irish coffee then? |
| 05:11.19 | scanlime | pagefault_: the only alcohol I have is baileys and guinness, and I have very little else in my fridge at this point |
| 05:11.42 | scanlime | let me know if you find a way to extract whiskey from irish cream :P |
| 05:12.06 | scanlime | ew |
| 05:12.07 | file[laptop] | yay king of the hill |
| 05:12.08 | scanlime | http://www.webtender.com/db/drink/2582 |
| 05:12.18 | scanlime | it's like making cheese, in your mouth! |
| 05:12.33 | pagefault_ | ew |
| 05:13.08 | pagefault_ | people will mix anything and call it a drink |
| 05:13.21 | file[laptop] | my internet is going kersplodey again |
| 05:13.35 | scanlime | pagefault_: well, it didn't find any drinks only involving salt, pepper, and tabasco sauce.. so that's good at least |
| 05:13.48 | pagefault_ | scanlime, here is your chance to shine then |
| 05:13.53 | scanlime | ChipX86: you make my GPRS go all crunky |
| 05:13.58 | ChipX86 | :( |
| 05:14.04 | scanlime | I should go ahead and order comcast, probably... |
| 05:14.18 | scanlime | haha |
| 05:14.21 | pagefault_ | salty spiced irish cream with pepper topping |
| 05:14.24 | scanlime | ChipX86: you make me laugh :) |
| 05:14.37 | ChipX86 | isn't that just how it feels? |
| 05:14.48 | scanlime | yes |
| 05:15.03 | file[laptop] | gah |
| 05:15.16 | scanlime | I couldn't eat much of the free food at orientation this morning.. but then I come home completely starving |
| 05:15.25 | scanlime | had to eat a big bowl of curry leftover from last nigh :) |
| 05:16.00 | ChipX86 | oh yeah, about tomorrow.. they're delivering my furniture |
| 05:16.21 | file[laptop] | woot furniture |
| 05:16.24 | ChipX86 | so I won't be at work. not sure about the lunch, if I'm on the invite list |
| 05:16.40 | scanlime | ChipX86: dan sent it to hosted solutions, IIRC |
| 05:16.44 | ChipX86 | oh ok |
| 05:16.51 | ChipX86 | do you have your $100 keychain yet? |
| 05:17.03 | scanlime | yikes, $100? |
| 05:17.05 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 05:17.15 | ChipX86 | it's a keychain from RSA that spits out a number every minute |
| 05:17.16 | numist | the rfid? |
| 05:17.19 | numist | oh those |
| 05:17.21 | numist | those are leet |
| 05:17.21 | pagefault_ | those are neat |
| 05:17.31 | pagefault_ | those are a treat |
| 05:17.36 | numist | they are a feat |
| 05:17.43 | ChipX86 | they can't be beat |
| 05:17.56 | file[laptop] | don't let it spread! |
| 05:18.08 | pagefault_ | rhyme is infectious |
| 05:18.17 | scanlime | ChipX86: oh, a securid card? my dad used to have one of those... |
| 05:18.24 | file[laptop] | just don't break out into song and dance |
| 05:18.25 | scanlime | but no, I got a normalish keychain with the vmware logo on it |
| 05:18.28 | scanlime | and a yo-yo! |
| 05:18.28 | ChipX86 | yeah, well, not a card |
| 05:18.31 | ChipX86 | wow! |
| 05:18.32 | ChipX86 | I want those |
| 05:18.34 | ChipX86 | I MUST have those |
| 05:18.42 | scanlime | and a neat vmware backpack |
| 05:18.43 | ChipX86 | I forgot to have Rachel steal me one from the supplies |
| 05:18.45 | ChipX86 | wow! |
| 05:18.52 | ChipX86 | okay.. must find the supplier |
| 05:18.55 | file[laptop] | scanlime got all the cool schwag |
| 05:19.01 | ChipX86 | I only got a t-shirt when I started :( |
| 05:19.06 | pagefault_ | booty |
| 05:19.17 | ChipX86 | I am so going to find a way to get those |
| 05:19.58 | file[laptop] | I wonder if I can swing by a Kinko's in Chicago and get business cards printed |
| 05:19.59 | scanlime | ooh |
| 05:20.00 | scanlime | neat |
| 05:20.03 | scanlime | this keychain has a set screw :) |
| 05:20.05 | ChipX86 | there's no invite |
| 05:20.14 | ChipX86 | there's just a thing saying you joined |
| 05:20.38 | scanlime | hmm, maybe it wasn't on hosted solutions after all |
| 05:20.42 | scanlime | could have been mks hackers |
| 05:20.45 | ChipX86 | oh |
| 05:20.48 | ChipX86 | I should join that someday |
| 05:20.58 | ChipX86 | because I don't have enough e-mail to read |
| 05:21.02 | ChipX86 | are you on fun-list? |
| 05:21.05 | scanlime | yes |
| 05:21.09 | ChipX86 | cool |
| 05:21.29 | file[laptop] | ok my internet is failing, enough browsing |
| 05:21.56 | pagefault_ | another line card? |
| 05:22.17 | file[laptop] | dunno |
| 05:22.52 | pagefault_ | you are too hard on your poor line |
| 05:23.06 | file[laptop] | yup |
| 05:23.09 | rioter | http://images.cainer.net/uploads/KimberlyFishing.JPG |
| 05:23.11 | file[laptop] | I'm on my 4th line card |
| 05:23.11 | rioter | i love australia |
| 05:23.34 | pagefault_ | rioter, haha wtf |
| 05:23.41 | pagefault_ | is that real or photoshopped |
| 05:23.44 | rioter | real |
| 05:23.51 | pagefault_ | thats a huge snake |
| 05:24.01 | rioter | yeah |
| 05:24.57 | file[laptop] | ok that creeped me out |
| 05:25.00 | file[laptop] | bad rioter bad |
| 05:25.08 | ChipX86 | file[laptop]: there's one in your room |
| 05:25.17 | file[laptop] | probably |
| 05:25.19 | rioter | file[laptop] you dont have to live in the same country as that snake |
| 05:25.20 | file[laptop] | rioter put it there |
| 05:25.27 | pagefault_ | I think I have some pictures of some scary beavers some where |
| 05:28.46 | rioter | i have never seen a beaver in real life |
| 05:29.09 | file[laptop] | er wait... 2 day, 3 day turn around... 5... yow'sa that is cutting it close |
| 05:29.13 | file[laptop] | pagefault_: is Monday a holiday? |
| 05:29.20 | pagefault_ | yepperz |
| 05:29.26 | file[laptop] | well fudge |
| 05:29.46 | file[laptop] | I do believe I'm going to be cheap and print business cards |
| 05:29.58 | nullpuppy | yay, apples, koolaid and an apple pie (cause i'm lazy and pie sounded good) |
| 05:30.02 | file[laptop] | mostly because I have no time |
| 05:30.24 | pagefault_ | fileInc |
| 05:30.30 | kergoth | nullpuppy: theres around a 60 vs 60 raid on xr in suramar if you want some honor |
| 05:30.35 | file[laptop] | hehe |
| 05:30.41 | pagefault_ | "We listen to your phone calls" |
| 05:30.44 | pagefault_ | you should put that on it |
| 05:30.58 | nullpuppy | kergoth: haha, cool |
| 05:31.05 | nullpuppy | let me rate limit this torrent and i'll hop in :) |
| 05:31.09 | file[laptop] | pagefault_: pfft |
| 05:31.14 | kergoth | :) |
| 05:31.18 | kergoth | nullpuppy: i just joined bg right.. |
| 05:31.20 | file[laptop] | All your phones are belong to me |
| 05:31.24 | kergoth | nullpuppy: the lag was so bad, my ghost wolf never finished casting. |
| 05:31.30 | kergoth | nullpuppy: and there was no alliance flag where it shoudl be |
| 05:31.36 | kergoth | nullpuppy: nor was their any alliance players. |
| 05:31.39 | kergoth | hehe |
| 05:31.48 | kergoth | and now i cant seem to even log back in |
| 05:31.50 | kergoth | ouch :( |
| 05:31.54 | nullpuppy | haha |
| 05:31.55 | nullpuppy | :( |
| 05:32.13 | file[laptop] | poor kergoth |
| 05:32.15 | nullpuppy | 30k should leave me with enough upload |
| 05:33.24 | pagefault_ | the alliance players are in the back of the base watching the stripping night elves |
| 05:33.36 | kergoth | hehe |
| 05:33.48 | kergoth | damnit, it keeps saying my character is still logged in :( |
| 05:33.51 | kergoth | bad wow |
| 05:33.51 | kergoth | bad |
| 05:33.52 | nullpuppy | :( |
| 05:33.55 | pagefault_ | yeah I hate that |
| 05:34.59 | purple_cow | hey, lookit all the garbage i could buy for my phone |
| 05:35.21 | nullpuppy | kergoth: you don't appear to be the only one with issues... |
| 05:35.24 | kergoth | :( |
| 05:35.35 | kergoth | poor suramar |
| 05:35.39 | nullpuppy | yeah |
| 05:35.54 | kergoth | i wanted to earn some more honor before the tuesday-bits |
| 05:36.05 | pagefault_ | hmm |
| 05:36.07 | pagefault_ | durotan is bleh too |
| 05:36.14 | kergoth | thats not good |
| 05:36.15 | nullpuppy | yeah, i'm kinda screwed for honor htis week |
| 05:36.23 | kergoth | i got like 4600 |
| 05:36.26 | pagefault_ | wtf |
| 05:36.26 | kergoth | yay 31-40 |
| 05:36.28 | pagefault_ | I reloaded WoW |
| 05:36.31 | nullpuppy | 117 kills, only 321 honor :( |
| 05:36.34 | kergoth | :( |
| 05:36.35 | pagefault_ | several realms will be taken down for 24 hours tomorrow |
| 05:36.35 | file[laptop] | hrm, I wonder if this package of goodies will arrive tomorrow |
| 05:36.38 | pagefault_ | starting at 5 AM PDT |
| 05:36.39 | file[laptop] | supposedly in transit to Dieppe |
| 05:36.46 | pagefault_ | check wow.com for more info |
| 05:36.53 | file[laptop] | goodnight all! |
| 05:36.56 | kergoth | night file |
| 05:36.57 | pagefault_ | night |
| 05:37.05 | nullpuppy | night feel |
| 05:37.24 | file[laptop] | awww I feel so loved |
| 05:37.26 | nullpuppy | erm.. |
| 05:37.28 | nullpuppy | *file |
| 05:37.29 | nullpuppy | :) |
| 05:38.01 | pagefault_ | ahh good |
| 05:38.04 | kergoth | heh, everytime i see someoen do a typo correction with * syntax i read it like its a pointer dereference |
| 05:38.06 | pagefault_ | not durotan or suramar |
| 05:47.44 | pagefault_ | http://mdn.mainichi-msn.co.jp/photospecials/graph/photojournal/1.html |
| 05:47.45 | pagefault_ | haha |
| 05:50.03 | rioter | haha |
| 05:50.29 | kergoth | hah |
| 05:51.15 | pagefault_ | I wonder if that was intentional |
| 06:04.23 | purple_cow | sigh |
| 06:04.30 | purple_cow | tannin = yucky |
| 06:07.54 | kergoth | :( |
| 06:09.07 | purple_cow | cabs are always a bit of a crap-shoot in that respect |
| 06:16.57 | scanlime | purple_cow: add sugar |
| 06:17.28 | purple_cow | scanlime: ...sugar? |
| 06:17.38 | scanlime | yes |
| 06:17.54 | purple_cow | i'm not sure that would make it -better- |
| 06:21.36 | scanlime | or you could distill it |
| 06:21.59 | purple_cow | hah |
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| 06:27.10 | purple_cow | hH |
| 06:27.10 | purple_cow | http://www.hanzismatter.com/2005/07/talk-nerdy-to-me.html |
| 06:36.40 | purple_cow | yay, seems to have mellowed a bit |
| 06:38.15 | kergoth | yay |
| 06:38.33 | purple_cow | huh |
| 06:38.46 | purple_cow | kergoth: the tags on the muse EP say there are 3 tracks, but you only have 2... |
| 06:40.09 | kergoth | hmm, thats odd |
| 06:40.19 | kergoth | is that uber? |
| 06:40.28 | purple_cow | yeah |
| 06:40.48 | kergoth | strange. |
| 06:44.24 | nullpuppy | this is bizarre.. my mouse pointer keeps moving back to the right monitor.. |
| 06:44.24 | scanlime | blah. gmail outage? |
| 06:44.38 | ChipX86 | works for me |
| 06:45.33 | purple_cow | works here |
| 06:46.03 | purple_cow | i think they take down subsets of servers for upgrades at times, and if you happen to resolve to one of those, it says it's down |
| 06:46.12 | nullpuppy | oooooh, i think its vnc... |
| 06:47.22 | scanlime | purple_cow: nah, I think my phone just stopped letting new connections through |
| 06:47.29 | scanlime | it was weird- existing connections worked fine |
| 06:47.37 | scanlime | didn't look like a DNS problem either |
| 06:48.16 | scanlime | hm. or maybe gmail really is gown for me |
| 06:49.03 | scanlime | maybe via putty, zero, and elinks... |
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| 06:49.52 | purple_cow | hmmdeedoo |
| 06:49.57 | lurgy|work | meow |
| 06:50.00 | purple_cow | eek, chey7-119-dhcp? |
| 06:50.05 | lurgy|cheyho | yeah |
| 06:50.09 | purple_cow | hmm. what's darth_mall's cell #? |
| 06:50.09 | scanlime | :) |
| 06:50.09 | lurgy|cheyho | w |
| 06:50.16 | scanlime | lurgy|cheyho: say hello to christy for me |
| 06:50.25 | lurgy|cheyho | scanlime: hehe, ok |
| 06:53.32 | scanlime | blah. silly gmail... |
| 06:54.02 | scanlime | if all goes well, I'll have cable by friday afternoon |
| 06:54.44 | scanlime | once I have broadband I could start to plan a LAN of some sort >:) |
| 06:56.33 | purple_cow | a lan party of you and ChipX86? :) |
| 06:59.14 | purple_cow | or do you mean "LAN" in the traditional sense, instead of LAN as in "LAN party"? :P |
| 06:59.18 | nullpuppy | that'd be one hell of a party, i'm sure of it |
| 06:59.42 | nullpuppy | hehe |
| 06:59.49 | scanlime | heh.. I mean the type of LAN that hooks my laptop, yoshi, and warzok up to the internet using a switch and some cables :P |
| 07:00.02 | scanlime | but yeah, cwisty's type of LAN could work too |
| 07:00.11 | scanlime | anyway.. sleep. |
| 07:00.14 | purple_cow | 'night |
| 07:00.31 | purple_cow | so lurgy|cheyho, how's the babysitting? |
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| 07:09.07 | lurgy | oops |
| 07:29.12 | purple_cow | hrm... |
| 07:29.13 | purple_cow | bored |
| 08:10.56 | lalo | these episodes are big O.o |
| 08:15.19 | purple_cow | episodes? |
| 08:15.32 | lalo | atlantis |
| 08:21.30 | lalo | then again these dvds are blatantly pirated... I should be happy the quality is decent |
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| 08:35.06 | purple_cow | ok, time to start working my bedtime earlier and earlier, so i can wake up at 3:30 on saturday =/ |
| 08:35.18 | ChipX86 | in the morning? |
| 08:35.22 | purple_cow | yesh |
| 08:35.25 | ChipX86 | woah, why? |
| 08:35.29 | purple_cow | s/s/a/ |
| 08:35.30 | purple_cow | to go to LA |
| 08:35.33 | purple_cow | (cheap flights) |
| 08:35.34 | ChipX86 | ohh |
| 08:35.36 | ChipX86 | right |
| 08:35.53 | purple_cow | plane leaves at 7:20, which means catching the 4:30 bus :P |
| 08:39.15 | ChipX86 | ow |
| 08:42.03 | rioter | heh, i just dont sleep |
| 08:42.14 | rioter | sleep on the plane |
| 08:45.51 | Veight | chip... |
| 08:45.56 | Veight | wernt you going to sleep? |
| 08:45.56 | Veight | lol |
| 08:45.57 | ChipX86 | yep? |
| 08:45.58 | ChipX86 | I was |
| 08:46.05 | ChipX86 | then I realized I need to do soylent stuff.. |
| 08:46.37 | Veight | well we lost that bg after you left |
| 08:46.52 | Veight | got our asses handed to us everyone was going offense.. |
| 08:46.56 | ChipX86 | heh |
| 08:47.23 | Veight | well i'm going to sleep gnight all |
| 08:47.28 | ChipX86 | you know, it's really not a hard strategy.. keep 4 people on defense, the rest on offense in a cluster, have the warriors tank, mages attack from around them |
| 08:47.41 | ChipX86 | rush to the top, drop down, mages freeze and sheep, a mage grab the flag |
| 08:47.41 | Veight | well |
| 08:47.43 | ChipX86 | but people just don't get it |
| 08:47.48 | ChipX86 | people run around |
| 08:47.51 | Veight | it was 10 on 8 |
| 08:47.53 | ChipX86 | you go from 8 guys on defense to 2 |
| 08:48.02 | ChipX86 | everything moving around by themselves, getting killed off |
| 08:48.21 | ChipX86 | even with 8, if you do it right and everyone pays attention, you have a good chance of winning |
| 08:48.29 | Veight | yeah |
| 08:48.39 | Veight | i still cant believe my priest scored a flag |
| 08:48.41 | Veight | :) |
| 08:48.44 | ChipX86 | nice |
| 08:48.48 | ChipX86 | yeah |
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| 09:10.39 | Veight | gnight all |
| 09:10.45 | ChipX86|Sleep | g'night |
| 09:10.52 | CIA-11 | galago: 03chipx86 * r2057 10libsoylent/ (ChangeLog scripts/generate-props.pl): The script now can take an input and generate an output based on one or more modes. It currently supports generating a header file of function definitions. Almost there... |
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| 11:30.30 | Sophie197 | think I'll take a nap |
| 11:39.11 | pagefault_ | hmm nap |
| 11:39.13 | pagefault_ | bleh |
| 12:43.51 | rioter | hey gonkulator |
| 12:44.53 | gonkulator | yay excitement |
| 12:44.58 | gonkulator | morning rioter |
| 12:45.53 | gonkulator | so, rioter, whats up? |
| 12:46.45 | rioter | not alot really, thinking i should probably goto bed as i have an early start tommorow, but im to lazy to move |
| 12:47.04 | gonkulator | yay lazy |
| 12:47.46 | gonkulator | stupid anticipation |
| 12:47.55 | rioter | what are you anticipating? |
| 12:48.42 | gonkulator | iBook release |
| 12:49.03 | gonkulator | and Apple is running a special, where one gets a free iPod mini with the purchase of a mac |
| 12:49.25 | gonkulator | and of course, they let you upgrade the iPod if you're willing to pay for it :) |
| 12:50.00 | rioter | ah |
| 12:50.05 | rioter | new ibooks being released? |
| 12:50.21 | gonkulator | yep yep yep |
| 12:50.23 | gonkulator | at least, thats what I think |
| 12:50.46 | rioter | im looking at buying a powerbook in the near future, they are sexy machines |
| 12:50.59 | gonkulator | yeah |
| 12:51.24 | rioter | but im not sure if i want to wait till to see if they will ever release a g5 or just wait till they switch to x86 |
| 12:51.41 | gonkulator | well, I doubt a g5 powerbook is going to happen |
| 12:51.57 | gonkulator | so next summer (or probably spring) there will be an x86 version |
| 12:52.33 | rioter | i would love a dual booting osx/windows powerbook |
| 12:52.49 | gonkulator | heh |
| 12:53.01 | pagefault_ | yay |
| 12:53.12 | pagefault_ | new copyright bill is being kicked out |
| 12:53.16 | pagefault_ | take that stupid RIAA/MPAA |
| 12:54.16 | gonkulator | hehehe |
| 12:55.14 | pagefault_ | damnit |
| 12:55.20 | pagefault_ | I can't believe we still pay the queen money for doing nothing |
| 12:55.30 | gonkulator | its Canada |
| 12:55.38 | gonkulator | you're whole country is going down the tubes |
| 12:55.43 | gonkulator | er, your |
| 12:55.57 | rioter | gonkulator, get rid of bush, then we will talk about going down the tubes :P |
| 12:56.10 | pagefault_ | pfft |
| 12:56.14 | pagefault_ | the economy here has never been better |
| 12:56.20 | pagefault_ | the dollar is at a 25 year high |
| 12:56.27 | pagefault_ | how is that down the tubes :) |
| 12:57.33 | gonkulator | People are advocating trying to take over the Roman Catholic Church and being listened to because the Church takes a strong stance on homosexual acts, contraception and abortion |
| 12:58.16 | gonkulator | an attack on The Church like that won't end well for the attackers :/ |
| 12:58.20 | pagefault_ | well |
| 12:58.28 | pagefault_ | I bet you guys are pissed off at us for legalizing same sex marriage |
| 12:58.36 | pagefault_ | even though you guys don't have to honour it |
| 12:59.03 | rioter | yeah see that whole contraception thing is just annoying |
| 12:59.33 | pagefault_ | I don't see what is wrong with contraception |
| 12:59.39 | pagefault_ | especially in the case of preventing STDs |
| 12:59.43 | rioter | i can understand where they are coming from |
| 13:00.02 | rioter | but they didnt ahve wide spread std's when they made the rule(as far as i know there is no biblicl reason) |
| 13:00.16 | pagefault_ | well thats the main problem |
| 13:00.23 | pagefault_ | they times have changed and the church hasn't |
| 13:00.27 | pagefault_ | it's time to rewrite the rules |
| 13:00.35 | gonkulator | ROFLMAO |
| 13:00.54 | gonkulator | the rules are right, it is the times that need to be changed |
| 13:00.59 | pagefault_ | pfft |
| 13:01.10 | gonkulator | sex shouldn't happen outside of marriage, thus preventing ALL stds |
| 13:01.11 | pagefault_ | come on, women aren't objects anymore |
| 13:01.15 | pagefault_ | let them be priests |
| 13:01.15 | rioter | gonkulator that is not true |
| 13:01.29 | gonkulator | ok, when should sex happen outside of marriage |
| 13:01.30 | rioter | there are other ways to catch things like aids |
| 13:01.51 | pagefault_ | what if you get married to a person with aids |
| 13:02.02 | rioter | and if your wife catches aids from stepping on a needle in the street, i know i would be using a condom |
| 13:02.26 | pagefault_ | people are always going to be having sex outside of marriage |
| 13:02.29 | pagefault_ | and they ALWAYS have |
| 13:02.33 | pagefault_ | since the beginning of time |
| 13:02.52 | gonkulator | right, the times have been needing to change since the beginning of Time, thats the result of sin |
| 13:03.24 | rioter | yeah, but as it says in the bible, sin is never going to end until the second coming |
| 13:03.41 | gonkulator | doesn't mean we don't have to push against it |
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| 13:03.51 | gonkulator | morning Cae |
| 13:04.12 | Cae | g'morning |
| 13:04.29 | rioter | yeah, but how are you going to attract people to the church if you take such a hard stance on things that are accepted in todays soceity |
| 13:04.47 | pagefault_ | free ipods? |
| 13:04.54 | Cae | eh? what'd I walk in to? |
| 13:04.58 | gonkulator | when people are burned out on the lies that society puts forth as Truth, they will come |
| 13:05.14 | gonkulator | Cae: I'm defending the Church's position on Contraception, and various other things |
| 13:05.25 | sbahra[] | hi gonkulator, Cae, pagefault_, rioter. |
| 13:05.29 | Cae | contraception = good |
| 13:05.31 | gonkulator | howdy sbahra[] |
| 13:05.34 | pagefault_ | hey sbahra[] |
| 13:05.46 | rioter | gonkulator having grown up in a christian family attended a christian school and gone to church for most of my life, i cant stand the church, nothing wrong with god, just his fan club |
| 13:05.48 | pagefault_ | and what if you have sex with someone you are going to marry anyway |
| 13:05.50 | rioter | hey sbahra[] |
| 13:05.52 | Cae | though I'm not going to enter this argument..let's just agree to disagree? |
| 13:06.18 | rioter | it really needs to take a step back from its self and take a look at the bigger picture |
| 13:06.47 | pagefault_ | ah well everyone is free to do their own thing |
| 13:06.50 | pagefault_ | as far as I am concerned |
| 13:06.55 | pagefault_ | as long as they all stay 50 feet apart |
| 13:06.55 | Cae | it's too early in the morning for a religious argument |
| 13:06.55 | pagefault_ | :) |
| 13:06.57 | rioter | indeed :) |
| 13:07.00 | gonkulator | by bigger picture, do you mean telling people what it *really* takes to make it to Heaven, or what it takes in the moment to not feel bad? |
| 13:07.33 | Cae | I don't believe that your beliefs bind me, and believing thus, it would be an even greater blasphemy on your part to try to bind them to me :) |
| 13:07.37 | pagefault_ | I think hell is going to be pretty crowded |
| 13:07.38 | Cae | or bind me with them |
| 13:07.45 | rioter | pagefault_ but at least there will be pirates |
| 13:07.54 | Cae | PIRATES! |
| 13:08.05 | pagefault_ | if you go to hell for having sex out of marriage |
| 13:08.09 | pagefault_ | then I don't think heaven is worth it |
| 13:08.15 | sbahra[] | Maybe he's not asleep :P |
| 13:08.21 | Cae | I would have to agree with pagefault_ there |
| 13:08.41 | Cae | or really, once you've done it once, I mean, you're damned to hell anyway, right? |
| 13:08.46 | pagefault_ | yeah I guess so |
| 13:08.49 | Cae | so why not keep doing it? |
| 13:08.49 | pagefault_ | I am already going to hell then |
| 13:08.49 | gonkulator | no |
| 13:08.58 | rioter | depends what way you look at it :P |
| 13:08.58 | gonkulator | no no no no no |
| 13:09.00 | Cae | *snicker* |
| 13:09.11 | Cae | I'm just trying to give gonkulator apoplexy |
| 13:09.30 | pagefault_ | if it's not too late |
| 13:09.32 | pagefault_ | like |
| 13:09.35 | Cae | the Bible contradicts itself and was written down and copied by narrow-minded men. |
| 13:09.37 | pagefault_ | like |
| 13:09.43 | pagefault_ | can you just screw around for like 80 years |
| 13:09.48 | pagefault_ | then redeem yourself for the last bit |
| 13:09.51 | pagefault_ | and be all good |
| 13:10.00 | gonkulator | that is possible, yes |
| 13:10.03 | Cae | well, but you'd have to be truly sorry about the previous 80 years |
| 13:10.13 | Cae | contrition and all of that |
| 13:10.31 | Cae | so you'd have to make sure you contracted enough STDs to make you not snicker during the confession |
| 13:10.35 | rioter | depends whos view you go by, catholics, however christians just work off the belief system |
| 13:11.06 | gonkulator | if I said that I just wasn't going to follow the law of gravity, I would be foolish |
| 13:11.29 | rioter | or smart, i often feel that gravity is often holding me back on my dreams |
| 13:11.30 | gonkulator | there are greater laws that are learned through much suffering that I have taken people's word for |
| 13:11.40 | Cae | to prove the law of gravity I can throw a vase out a window. |
| 13:11.41 | gonkulator | and some I have learned on my own |
| 13:11.58 | pagefault_ | anyway |
| 13:12.00 | Cae | you cannot prove to me what you believe. |
| 13:12.05 | pagefault_ | I think it's cool that people believe what they want |
| 13:12.05 | gonkulator | we have free will, to choose if we are going to live by them |
| 13:12.08 | pagefault_ | as long as they keep it to themselves |
| 13:12.12 | Cae | and with that not, I am going to eat my pop-tarts. |
| 13:12.16 | Cae | er, note |
| 13:12.18 | gonkulator | Cae: I don't want to prove it, I want you to figure it out on your own |
| 13:12.40 | Cae | gonkulator: I already have my own answers, and I am at peace with them |
| 13:12.58 | pagefault_ | I think thats all god wats |
| 13:13.00 | pagefault_ | err wants |
| 13:13.05 | pagefault_ | to be at peace with yourself |
| 13:13.32 | pagefault_ | and that life is up to you to make of it |
| 13:13.34 | gonkulator | yes, but not in the sense that I think you're saying it |
| 13:13.36 | Cae | we all walk our own paths. whether or not they go to the same place or travel the same places is not always up to us, but.. they are our paths (and no, dear god, I do not mean predestination) |
| 13:13.38 | rioter | and this is why we have so many different religions |
| 13:13.52 | rioter | and even sub-genre's of religions |
| 13:14.02 | pagefault_ | I think if we were supposed to believe something |
| 13:14.05 | pagefault_ | we would have known right away |
| 13:14.08 | rioter | and thats why im agnostic |
| 13:14.16 | Cae | hehe |
| 13:14.19 | gonkulator | yeah, this human power fo choice is too hard |
| 13:14.29 | pagefault_ | if someone ever invents a time machine |
| 13:14.33 | pagefault_ | man |
| 13:14.35 | gonkulator | if God wanted automotons, He would have made them |
| 13:14.48 | rioter | if the christians cant even agree on one interpretation of the bible so much that they have to have anglicans baptists etc etc, what chance do we have |
| 13:14.48 | pagefault_ | it will answer the ultimate question |
| 13:15.12 | gonkulator | rioter: thats why we have a Pope |
| 13:15.13 | pagefault_ | yeah like which one is right |
| 13:15.26 | rioter | gonkulator, but he is just a man, as i am |
| 13:15.34 | rioter | why should i let him tell me what to belive |
| 13:16.12 | gonkulator | well, if Biblical Authority carries any weight, he is Peter's successor, who Jesus promised the Keys of Heaven to, which is reason enough for me |
| 13:16.21 | rioter | if he decideds one day that john 3:16 really means god wants us all to wear pink hats on fridays, why should i listen, when i really know it says 'so god so loved the world..." |
| 13:16.31 | pagefault_ | yeah but |
| 13:16.33 | pagefault_ | they elect a pope |
| 13:16.35 | gonkulator | but that wouldn't happen |
| 13:16.39 | rioter | a pope is elected |
| 13:16.58 | rioter | if it was geneolgy then you could belive that |
| 13:17.07 | pagefault_ | it's not like they do a DNA test on the man |
| 13:17.08 | gonkulator | and Jesus was born just like we are, whats your point? |
| 13:17.10 | pagefault_ | to find out if he is related |
| 13:17.19 | rioter | um gonkulator? my mum had sex before she had me |
| 13:18.44 | gonkulator | God uses human means to do Divine work |
| 13:19.07 | Cae | men are prone to weakness, and the Church is a political entity. |
| 13:19.25 | Cae | that is reason enough for me to not care about a single thing the Pope says, ever. |
| 13:19.38 | Cae | I also have MAJOR issues with the Church's dogma as a whole |
| 13:19.48 | gonkulator | and is it because of that weakness that we have held firm to our teachings on Contraception (and other stuff)? |
| 13:20.00 | Cae | oh, and how about all of that pedophiliac priest shit? |
| 13:20.07 | Cae | WHY should I trust the Church? |
| 13:20.28 | Cae | It has never given me any reason to do so |
| 13:20.40 | Cae | and it's given me a hell of a lot of reasons not to |
| 13:21.01 | pagefault_ | meet you by the pool of lava by the guys with pitchforks everyone |
| 13:21.03 | rioter | dogma had it right, the church does need to revamp its image, im not saying buddy jesus is the right way to go but... something |
| 13:21.11 | Cae | so, you play in your corner of the sandbox, and I'll play in mind, and maybe we won't throw sand at each other. |
| 13:21.27 | Cae | er, mine |
| 13:21.33 | pagefault_ | I don't really think hell exists |
| 13:21.43 | pagefault_ | if it does you have to be extremely bad to go there |
| 13:21.46 | pagefault_ | like stalin or smth |
| 13:21.58 | Cae | or bush ;) |
| 13:22.02 | gonkulator | pagefault_: I have met Satan (or one of his demons), and I know hell exists |
| 13:22.17 | pagefault_ | it makes no sense that people would be classified as these evil people |
| 13:22.22 | pagefault_ | for simply having sex outside of marriage |
| 13:23.08 | gonkulator | people aren't evil! |
| 13:23.19 | gonkulator | acts can be evil |
| 13:23.27 | pagefault_ | i'm pretty sure hitler was evil |
| 13:24.25 | gonkulator | Hitler did many evil things, but was not himself evil |
| 13:24.41 | pagefault_ | huh |
| 13:24.53 | pagefault_ | but doesn't doing something evil logically make you evil |
| 13:25.06 | pagefault_ | since you are the one doing said action |
| 13:25.19 | gonkulator | the decision that leads to the action is evil |
| 13:25.32 | pagefault_ | isn't it one and the same? |
| 13:25.46 | gonkulator | but the one making the decision is loved by God |
| 13:25.55 | gonkulator | anyway, I'm done for today |
| 13:26.21 | Cae | didn't Hitler like dogs? |
| 13:26.22 | pagefault_ | yeah I just don't understand it |
| 13:26.32 | gonkulator | new iBook time |
| 13:26.48 | pagefault_ | I see things with my own eyes |
| 13:27.12 | pagefault_ | Cae, no idea |
| 13:27.26 | pagefault_ | anything he liked is probably moot to what he hated |
| 13:27.48 | Cae | I have to wonder how he got to where he went |
| 13:28.06 | Cae | because I suppose it all made perfect sense in his head |
| 13:28.10 | pagefault_ | well they think it was because of an experience with a prostitude or something |
| 13:28.18 | pagefault_ | err prostitute |
| 13:28.26 | pagefault_ | and he ended up getting some STD from her |
| 13:28.43 | pagefault_ | and went on a mad rampage |
| 13:29.44 | Cae | heh |
| 13:30.20 | pagefault_ | reminds me of red alert |
| 13:30.25 | pagefault_ | when they go back in time and get rid of hitler |
| 13:30.35 | pagefault_ | but then the USSR gains power |
| 13:30.50 | kergoth | yay red alert. good game :) |
| 13:30.52 | kergoth | morning |
| 13:31.11 | pagefault_ | morning kergoth |
| 13:31.47 | pagefault_ | I wonder if hitler had evil dogs |
| 13:32.01 | Cae | terriers, then |
| 13:33.24 | pagefault_ | those are evil dogs? |
| 13:33.42 | Cae | they can be |
| 13:33.58 | pagefault_ | but they can be so cute |
| 13:35.03 | Cae | and demonic |
| 14:27.19 | pagefault_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:27.20 | pagefault_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:27.21 | pagefault_ | doesn't work |
| 14:27.30 | pagefault_ | well I don't think it will work |
| 14:28.24 | Cae | we can't cure the common cold :) |
| 14:28.41 | pagefault_ | thats how they cured it in 1891 |
| 14:28.42 | pagefault_ | err |
| 14:28.46 | pagefault_ | 1861 |
| 14:31.10 | pagefault_ | also the way to cure lead poisoning |
| 14:31.14 | pagefault_ | is to take opium |
| 14:55.15 | gonkulator | w00t |
| 14:59.54 | pagefault_ | yay |
| 14:59.56 | pagefault_ | and yay |
| 15:00.01 | pagefault_ | discovery got launched |
| 15:00.22 | pagefault_ | yay for discovery |
| 15:01.10 | pagefault_ | I don't know why they have to wait so long to launch |
| 15:01.23 | pagefault_ | they said they would have to wait until sept to launch if they couldn't today |
| 15:03.15 | file | gonkulator: 'tis not widescreen though ;) |
| 15:03.32 | pagefault_ | I wonder if discovery channel had anything on the discovery thing |
| 15:03.45 | file | pagefault_: live coverage and stuff |
| 15:03.58 | pagefault_ | did they? |
| 15:04.11 | pagefault_ | monster garage is on now |
| 15:05.57 | gonkulator | file: thats ok, I was going to go for the 12" anyway :) |
| 15:09.46 | pagefault_ | I wonder if anyone won that 7up ticket into space |
| 15:10.17 | gonkulator | er |
| 15:10.49 | pagefault_ | they are giving away a free ticket into space |
| 15:13.29 | pagefault_ | By accepting the Grand Prize, Grand Prize Winner agrees and accepts that (a) the Commercial Operator is a company that is in development and sub-orbital flights on their spacecraft are in the planning stages at the time of this Promotion; and (b) Promotion Parties do not provide any kind of guarantees or warranties that any spacecraft will be built nor that any space flights of any spacecraft will take place in the future |
| 15:13.31 | pagefault_ | haha |
| 15:14.24 | file | nice. |
| 15:14.54 | pagefault_ | I am going into space |
| 15:14.58 | pagefault_ | even if it costs like 20k |
| 15:15.01 | pagefault_ | it's my goal |
| 15:16.03 | file | pagefault in space? creepy. |
| 15:16.08 | pagefault_ | good place |
| 15:16.13 | pagefault_ | you can't get much closer there gonk |
| 15:16.14 | pagefault_ | :P |
| 15:16.31 | gonkulator | :-D |
| 15:17.19 | pagefault_ | I don't think they will let you have candles up there |
| 15:17.40 | gonkulator | that is a consideration I hadn't considered |
| 15:18.25 | pagefault_ | will electric ones work? |
| 15:18.31 | pagefault_ | like with a light bulb |
| 15:18.50 | pagefault_ | i've been to churches before with lightbulbs |
| 15:22.34 | pagefault_ | so they are proposing replacing the BIOS on PC's yet again |
| 15:22.38 | pagefault_ | they have said that so many times now |
| 15:24.32 | gonkulator | yeah, I think that would work |
| 15:24.58 | gonkulator | and I *could* put velcro on the sacred vessels so they stay down on the Altar |
| 15:25.52 | pagefault_ | that works |
| 15:25.53 | pagefault_ | or duct tape |
| 15:27.09 | pagefault_ | you should go for it though |
| 15:27.15 | pagefault_ | be the first priest in space |
| 15:30.28 | CIA-11 | g2bridge: 03evan * r528 10bridge/gsi/ (gsi_main.h libgsi.a librtl.a libtcp.a): For some reason I had the 7.0 libs in here. Replace them with the 8.1r0 libs |
| 15:32.48 | pagefault_ | anyway |
| 15:32.51 | pagefault_ | it's bed time |
| 15:32.54 | pagefault_ | or nap time |
| 15:33.05 | pagefault_ | and yay again for discovery getting launched :) |
| 15:33.06 | pagefault_ | brb |
| 15:33.16 | pagefault_ | err |
| 15:33.17 | pagefault_ | bbl |
| 15:33.22 | pagefault_ | so tired |
| 15:36.19 | pagefault_ | woah |
| 15:36.19 | pagefault_ | ok |
| 15:36.20 | pagefault_ | nm |
| 15:36.24 | pagefault_ | bestbuy sent me a flyer |
| 15:36.27 | pagefault_ | I can't sleep yet |
| 15:36.43 | scanlime | up all night? |
| 15:36.47 | pagefault_ | the mouse I bought for $25 is now $9.99 |
| 15:36.52 | pagefault_ | time to return it and buy it again |
| 15:37.13 | pagefault_ | yeah |
| 15:37.15 | pagefault_ | up all night |
| 15:37.50 | pagefault_ | divx player for $60 |
| 15:42.27 | CIA-11 | g2bridge: 03evan * r529 10bridge/src/ (config.cpp g2bridge.cpp): Fix some leaks and invalid reads. |
| 15:49.45 | scanlime | yay discovery |
| 15:49.52 | gonkulator | yay discovery |
| 15:51.28 | pagefault_ | http://news.zdnet.com/2100-1035_22-5804005.html |
| 15:51.30 | pagefault_ | but does it VoIP |
| 15:56.02 | Cae | back |
| 15:56.17 | gonkulator | wb Cae |
| 15:56.42 | pagefault_ | ok so now you need a real cd key to update windows |
| 15:56.49 | pagefault_ | thats really going to help out the security problems |
| 15:56.55 | numist | :P |
| 15:58.01 | pagefault_ | doh |
| 15:58.03 | pagefault_ | slashdot was fast |
| 15:58.07 | pagefault_ | I saw it on google news first |
| 16:00.50 | *** join/#tacobeam JeffM2501 (~JeffM@JeffM2501.sustaining.supporter.pdpc) |
| 16:09.13 | scanlime | "Steve Jobs is not going to jump out of a cake" |
| 16:09.29 | nullpuppy | damn |
| 16:09.35 | scanlime | I know |
| 16:10.07 | numist | lol |
| 16:10.51 | gonkulator | do we get to see Balmer jump around and clap his hands and say "developers" over and over and over again? |
| 16:11.55 | numist | lol that was funny |
| 16:12.26 | gonkulator | the Techno remix of it was a bit over the top though... |
| 16:14.58 | numist | ? |
| 16:15.04 | numist | I missed that one |
| 16:16.05 | numist | wow, sleepySophie is really cool |
| 16:16.40 | nullpuppy | numist: http://www.digitaldroo.com/monkeydevelopers.html |
| 16:17.03 | gonkulator | morning Sophie197 |
| 16:17.28 | scanlime | gonkulator: http://picogui.org/Screenshots/20020727_sdl/variant/original |
| 16:17.36 | Sophie197 | morning :) |
| 16:17.45 | numist | nullpuppy: 0_o |
| 16:18.16 | numist | destroy mornings |
| 16:18.35 | Sophie197 | KeyserSoze should be just about in Lincoln, MA by now. |
| 16:18.41 | numist | :( |
| 16:18.53 | Sophie197 | just a work trip. |
| 16:18.59 | numist | ah good |
| 16:19.20 | gonkulator | Sophie197: so, when there is another launch, I can come visit, right? |
| 16:19.57 | Sophie197 | sure thing. You can visit anytime... except Christmas (we'll be gone) |
| 16:20.39 | Sophie197 | we have a spare bedroom with a queensize bed in it. |
| 16:20.51 | gonkulator | ooooooh |
| 16:21.38 | gonkulator | thanks :) |
| 16:21.52 | Sophie197 | they prolly won't do too many more :/ |
| 16:22.08 | scanlime | "my memory is not what it used to be (as far as I can remember)" |
| 16:22.09 | Sophie197 | they want to end the program in the next 5-10 years |
| 16:22.11 | scanlime | my dad cracks me up :) |
| 16:24.37 | gonkulator | yeah, but once the shuttle is done, there should be something else |
| 16:28.51 | Cae | kergoth: ping |
| 16:35.25 | Veight | Good morning all |
| 16:37.33 | file | Veight: no, not good morning |
| 16:37.55 | Veight | sorry |
| 16:37.59 | Veight | Good afternoon |
| 16:38.02 | Veight | happy? :) |
| 16:38.12 | Cae | hey Veight. you on a machine with WoW? (or any of you) |
| 16:38.21 | Veight | i am |
| 16:38.25 | Cae | and do you have a directory Interface/FrameXML? |
| 16:38.34 | Veight | yeah |
| 16:38.45 | Cae | can you zip that up for me and send it? :) |
| 16:39.36 | Cae | LOL |
| 16:39.39 | numist | yipe |
| 16:39.55 | nullpuppy | just a few packages... :) |
| 16:40.32 | Cae | I don't think it will properly transfer (too many firewalls).. email though.. caelum@gmail.com |
| 16:41.24 | Cae | lua looks somewhat ugly though, I mean aesthetically |
| 16:42.21 | darth_mall | wow |
| 16:42.42 | darth_mall | so the newest version of telewindows provided by Gensym has a special windows version with a special windows interface... |
| 16:42.58 | darth_mall | and when you enter your password, it just prints it to the screen in plain text... |
| 16:43.08 | darth_mall | absolutely brilliant |
| 16:43.19 | gonkulator | whao, I need to update ion |
| 16:43.32 | nullpuppy | only thing that might have a problem i hope is wine |
| 16:43.39 | Veight | my bro has nothing to do with his life thats why he edits all the addons he has |
| 16:43.41 | nullpuppy | ok, there we go.. tis only 260 packages ;) |
| 16:43.44 | Veight | well most of them anyways |
| 16:43.51 | *** join/#tacobeam darkstar62 (~darkstar6@boulder.navi.cx) |
| 16:44.15 | Veight | has anyone tried to connect to any servers on wow? it hangs for me at connecting |
| 16:45.08 | Cae | it's tuesday |
| 16:45.24 | Veight | heh oh yeah |
| 16:45.25 | darth_mall | did you bring your coat? |
| 16:45.54 | numist | yay, In the Flesh |
| 16:47.14 | Cae | my pally's a sarge |
| 16:47.36 | Veight | what lvl is your pally? |
| 16:49.12 | Cae | 60 |
| 16:49.28 | Cae | I don't PvP much. just randomly, whenever I feel like it. |
| 16:49.55 | Cae | so I have around 1300 HKs and 25000 honor or whatever |
| 16:51.27 | gonkulator | HKs? |
| 16:51.43 | Cae | honorable kills |
| 16:51.49 | gonkulator | too many acronyms and abreviations |
| 16:52.35 | Cae | Veight: sent by email? (zip) |
| 16:53.48 | Veight | yeah |
| 16:54.11 | Cae | danke :) |
| 16:54.32 | Cae | gmail's just being a bit slow. |
| 17:04.02 | ChipX86 | sbahra[]: what's up? |
| 17:04.10 | purple_cow | sex thing? |
| 17:05.25 | ChipX86 | the discussion Cae and pagefault were having. If having sex before marriage means you're damned to hell, heaven just doesn't sound worth it |
| 17:06.02 | ChipX86 | not that a kind god would do that, especially considering marriage was our invention |
| 17:06.08 | numist | I agree |
| 17:07.45 | darth_mall | I invented grapefruit |
| 17:09.08 | numist | I invented the intarwebs |
| 17:09.30 | purple_cow | hurray! the sink is filling up with dishes again! |
| 17:13.59 | ChipX86 | I think I'm going to really piss off the movers that are bringing in my new couch and tell them I need them to move the entertainment center out another inch, like I originally requested of them |
| 17:14.09 | Cae | brb |
| 17:14.28 | numist | sock it to them, ChipX86 |
| 17:15.24 | purple_cow | darth_mall: sorry, i'm just starting to get tired of it :P |
| 17:15.31 | kergoth | Cae: 25000 honor? holy crap |
| 17:15.37 | darth_mall | yeah, and I'll get to it when I can |
| 17:15.41 | ChipX86 | unfortunately, that means moving the tv off and stuff |
| 17:15.47 | darth_mall | it's easy for you because you don't have to get up at the buttcrack of dawn to get to work |
| 17:16.37 | purple_cow | i don't mind at all if there are dishes in there from the morning, but it generally accumulates over an entire week or more, until i get frustrated :P |
| 17:17.01 | darth_mall | those haven't even been there for a day =P |
| 17:18.58 | ChipX86 | meh, xscreensaver and kscreensaver. We're getting further from a single screensaver solution |
| 17:21.19 | Veight | I invented the telecomputerwowthingamajig |
| 17:21.24 | purple_cow | does kscreensaver use xss hacks? |
| 17:21.39 | Veight | dont even dare ask me what it does |
| 17:21.40 | Veight | lol |
| 17:21.50 | nullpuppy | neat. just made a square in fyre |
| 17:21.52 | purple_cow | Veight: wasn't planning on it |
| 17:21.57 | Veight | heh |
| 17:22.29 | ChipX86 | purple_cow: no idea. I think so |
| 17:22.47 | ChipX86 | but it seems like we're just moving away from a common solution there |
| 17:22.50 | Veight | btw if you have wow in a window mode maximised it drops your fps by like 10 just so everyone knows |
| 17:22.58 | ChipX86 | Veight: everyone knows |
| 17:23.08 | ChipX86 | difference is, we probably know why that happens. |
| 17:23.12 | purple_cow | we've had a "common solution" for years, and people are getting tired of it :P |
| 17:23.14 | Veight | prove me wrong again |
| 17:23.17 | Veight | lol |
| 17:23.18 | Cae | back |
| 17:25.37 | purple_cow | i'd love to see both desktops move to the gscreensaver approach (xscreensaver + IPC link to desktop-themed login box), but it really doesn't matter |
| 17:25.53 | nullpuppy | damn. i thought gcc took longer then that.. only half an hour.. |
| 17:26.05 | purple_cow | "common solutions" are only really useful when integration is at stake, which it isn't in the case of a screensaver |
| 17:26.16 | purple_cow | if both desktops want to do their own thing, i see no reason why they shouldn't |
| 17:26.40 | darth_mall | unless someone were to invent gKDE! |
| 17:26.48 | darth_mall | or perhaps kGnome |
| 17:27.32 | ChipX86 | stupid stupid car alarm |
| 17:27.45 | ChipX86 | a garbage truck went by and the car alarm went off :/ |
| 17:28.35 | Veight | o_O |
| 17:28.37 | Veight | strange |
| 17:28.44 | purple_cow | ChipX86: is it a car in your apartment complex? |
| 17:29.04 | ChipX86 | I haven't determined that yet. I need to sit outside and wait for it to go off at some point |
| 17:29.08 | ChipX86 | it might be in the lot next to us |
| 17:29.16 | numist | wait for garbage day, no point wasting time at it |
| 17:29.17 | Veight | Chip lives in an apartment? |
| 17:29.22 | Veight | you learn new things everyday |
| 17:29.23 | ChipX86 | yes? |
| 17:29.24 | darth_mall | no |
| 17:29.29 | darth_mall | he lives under a bridge |
| 17:29.31 | ChipX86 | no, I'm spending $500,000 on a house around here :P |
| 17:29.36 | numist | chippys apartment is nice though |
| 17:29.37 | darth_mall | hehe |
| 17:29.41 | numist | sorry, house :X |
| 17:29.53 | purple_cow | ChipX86: small house :P |
| 17:30.03 | ChipX86 | heh |
| 17:31.06 | Veight | mwhahaha |
| 17:31.19 | kergoth | my car alarm goes off all the time |
| 17:31.26 | Veight | with no wow ive realized old dreams, to play diablo 1! |
| 17:31.29 | kergoth | but usually because the remote is in my back pocket and i sit on the panic button |
| 17:31.36 | ChipX86 | kergoth: haha |
| 17:31.36 | numist | Veight: why no wow? |
| 17:31.46 | Veight | servers are down for maintenance |
| 17:31.49 | numist | kergoth: lol, thats why most panic buttons are recessed |
| 17:31.52 | numist | Veight: boo |
| 17:32.00 | kergoth | numist: yeah, that would be nice |
| 17:32.05 | kergoth | at first i didnt realize what was causing it :) |
| 17:32.05 | numist | :P |
| 17:32.18 | ChipX86 | *sigh* |
| 17:32.22 | ChipX86 | I have a meeting in London tomorrow |
| 17:32.35 | Cae | IN london? |
| 17:32.37 | numist | London? |
| 17:32.38 | Veight | heh blizzard is giving people who play on the servers that are gonna be down for 24 hours another day before they lose there account |
| 17:32.43 | numist | surely not *the* Londeon |
| 17:32.45 | kergoth | heh |
| 17:32.45 | ChipX86 | they keep mistaking me for Chris Hammans |
| 17:32.49 | numist | lol |
| 17:33.06 | numist | Hammans, Hammond, same difference |
| 17:33.09 | Veight | whats so good in London? |
| 17:33.15 | kergoth | yay for rereading Neverwhere |
| 17:33.20 | kergoth | such a good book |
| 17:33.29 | Veight | hmm |
| 17:33.32 | ChipX86 | Veight: you misunderstand |
| 17:33.32 | Veight | i have an idea |
| 17:33.44 | Veight | i know what you mean but why London of all places? |
| 17:33.44 | Cae | maybe I'll go work for blizzard ;) |
| 17:33.53 | Cae | http://www.cnn.com/2005/TECH/fun.games/07/25/game.girls.ap/index.html |
| 17:33.57 | Veight | they had a job open couple weeks ago |
| 17:34.02 | ChipX86 | Veight: because some people work in London? |
| 17:34.08 | ChipX86 | we're an international company |
| 17:34.12 | ChipX86 | Cae: VMware!@ |
| 17:34.16 | Cae | I'm still in school. can't take full time. |
| 17:34.18 | Veight | oh |
| 17:34.21 | ChipX86 | internship |
| 17:34.33 | Cae | ChipX86: my second-line manager is really pushing to keep me. I'm guessing whatever's in my file is good. |
| 17:34.40 | ChipX86 | cool |
| 17:34.52 | Veight | ive got it |
| 17:35.00 | purple_cow | hrmph |
| 17:35.05 | Veight | lets spend kergoth's tax money and buy tickets to blizzcon lol |
| 17:35.18 | Veight | wow |
| 17:35.22 | Cae | Veight: I think he should sell you on the street |
| 17:35.32 | Veight | blizzard sold 1.5 million copys in China |
| 17:35.58 | Veight | so thats around 3.5 million copys x 15 a month |
| 17:36.10 | CIA-11 | spacegrant: 03dkuester * r1589 10mck/ (4 files in 3 dirs): COMMIT! |
| 17:36.10 | numist | Veight: and they have 30 million users in china? |
| 17:36.11 | purple_cow | Cae: great idea! |
| 17:36.25 | Veight | 1.5 mill in china |
| 17:36.28 | Cae | it's only *slightly* illegal ;) |
| 17:36.37 | Cae | wait..how old are you, Veight? |
| 17:36.57 | numist | not old enough to sell himself on the street, I gather |
| 17:36.59 | Cae | <18 or >=18? |
| 17:37.06 | Veight | both |
| 17:37.06 | ChipX86 | way less |
| 17:37.19 | Cae | okay, then it's more than slightly illegal.. |
| 17:37.19 | numist | Veight << 18; |
| 17:37.26 | ChipX86 | he's 14 |
| 17:37.36 | Veight | ... |
| 17:37.47 | Cae | 12! |
| 17:38.02 | Veight | sure why not everyone just go ahead and state out my 1 and only flaw |
| 17:38.19 | ChipX86 | since when is a guy concerned about people knowing his age? |
| 17:38.20 | gonkulator | its not a flaw to be a teenager |
| 17:38.27 | darth_mall | yes it is |
| 17:38.27 | Veight | hmm |
| 17:38.28 | nullpuppy | hmm, i need to get some *long* speaker cable and mount some speakers in my bathroom |
| 17:38.28 | ChipX86 | yeah, it's just a mental disability |
| 17:38.28 | Veight | true |
| 17:38.38 | purple_cow | darth_mall: i left this clearance guy's business card on your keyboard, he wants to talk to you about chris |
| 17:38.45 | Veight | of all places your bathroom? |
| 17:38.51 | nullpuppy | yes |
| 17:39.01 | darth_mall | purple_cow: ok. does it need to be in person, or do I just need to give him a call? |
| 17:39.11 | purple_cow | call works |
| 17:39.15 | darth_mall | cool |
| 17:39.20 | nullpuppy | w00t! torrent finished |
| 17:39.29 | nullpuppy | too bad i don't have time to watch it before work :/ |
| 17:39.47 | Veight | lol blizz made a china site for wow |
| 17:39.51 | Veight | www.wowchina.com |
| 17:39.54 | darth_mall | haha! that's funny |
| 17:39.57 | darth_mall | oh wait... |
| 17:40.28 | Veight | Cae: New Position - Lead Web Software Engineer at blizzard heh |
| 17:40.45 | Cae | chinese gold farmers |
| 17:41.01 | darth_mall | kergoth: because they're *foreigners* |
| 17:41.06 | darth_mall | foreigners are always funny |
| 17:41.11 | purple_cow | hehehe |
| 17:41.21 | darth_mall | especially when they don't understand you |
| 17:41.24 | Veight | wow... |
| 17:41.35 | Veight | Gamespot announced that Diablo was the greatest game of all time |
| 17:41.47 | darth_mall | I get so tickled when, no matter how loud I speak, they still don't understand english |
| 17:41.48 | purple_cow | huh |
| 17:42.02 | purple_cow | i would have thought that something like tetris was the greatest game of all time |
| 17:42.13 | numist | purple_cow: never heard of liero? |
| 17:42.19 | purple_cow | numist: nope |
| 17:42.24 | numist | real time game very much like, but predating, worms |
| 17:42.28 | kergoth | "Mr West, do you have any words for our viewers?" "Box. Toaster. Aluminum. Maple Syrup. No wait, I take that one back. I'm gonna hold on to that one." |
| 17:42.36 | numist | note real time vs turn based |
| 17:43.11 | darth_mall | Diablo I is the best game of all time? |
| 17:43.24 | Veight | http://www.gamespot.com/features/6128539/index.html |
| 17:43.26 | Veight | take a look |
| 17:45.09 | darth_mall | that's lame |
| 17:46.16 | ChipX86 | I trust very little about what gamespot or anybody else says |
| 17:46.33 | Veight | heh |
| 17:46.34 | ChipX86 | especially when it's something silly like "the best" anything |
| 17:46.52 | Veight | i agree with them though |
| 17:47.02 | darth_mall | why? |
| 17:47.11 | purple_cow | ahh, it's not "the", it's "among the" |
| 17:47.23 | ChipX86 | hah. |
| 17:47.28 | purple_cow | darth_mall: because he doesn't actually have the wherewithall to form his own opinions |
| 17:47.42 | darth_mall | heh |
| 17:47.57 | Veight | .... |
| 17:48.04 | Veight | no because Diablo I is a badass game :P |
| 17:48.14 | purple_cow | i'm glad to see this: http://www.gamespot.com/gamespot/features/all/greatestgames/p-8.html |
| 17:48.17 | ChipX86 | it's a game. There are far far better |
| 17:48.30 | ChipX86 | yes, tetris. Now *that* is a good game |
| 17:48.36 | darth_mall | Veight: ok, but I'm curious what about it makes you think it's so badass? |
| 17:49.03 | kergoth | woot, contra is on the list :D |
| 17:49.10 | ChipX86 | contra is also a good game |
| 17:49.10 | darth_mall | hehe |
| 17:49.14 | darth_mall | that game was fun |
| 17:49.23 | kergoth | and total annihilation, which is _still_ a seriously amazing strategy game |
| 17:49.30 | darth_mall | never played that |
| 17:49.42 | purple_cow | yay, http://www.gamespot.com/gamespot/features/all/greatestgames/p-10.html |
| 17:49.45 | darth_mall | oooh... Metroid |
| 17:50.01 | ChipX86 | Metroid is *awesome* |
| 17:50.03 | kergoth | hehe, california games |
| 17:50.08 | darth_mall | oooh... TIE Fighter |
| 17:50.10 | ChipX86 | california games was silly |
| 17:50.11 | darth_mall | that was a fun simulator |
| 17:50.22 | darth_mall | hahaha |
| 17:50.24 | darth_mall | Moonwalker... |
| 17:50.35 | kergoth | castlevania! yay |
| 17:50.37 | darth_mall | oooh, yes! Thief I made it on there |
| 17:50.41 | ChipX86 | hah, Smash TV |
| 17:50.56 | ChipX86 | yayy Pitfall |
| 17:51.03 | ChipX86 | not an easy game to beat |
| 17:51.07 | Veight | GTA:SA and Resident Evil 4 both got higher score then wow on gamespot |
| 17:51.14 | darth_mall | huh... FF Tactics made it, but not FF6 or FF7 |
| 17:51.18 | darth_mall | that strikes me as a bit odd |
| 17:51.20 | ChipX86 | darth_mall: that's just wrong |
| 17:51.24 | kergoth | darth_mall: odd |
| 17:51.36 | ChipX86 | Bionic Commando! :) |
| 17:51.37 | darth_mall | I mean, personally, I think 7 is the FF game I've played |
| 17:51.38 | kergoth | hehe, mike tyson's punch out |
| 17:51.39 | ChipX86 | hard game |
| 17:51.54 | purple_cow | yay, oregon trail! |
| 17:51.58 | ChipX86 | yay |
| 17:52.02 | Cae | oregon trail FTW! |
| 17:52.07 | darth_mall | and amongst most gamers I've talked to, it seems the consensus that either 6 or 7 is best in the series |
| 17:52.07 | Veight | that brings back memories |
| 17:52.08 | ChipX86 | Lode Runner |
| 17:52.17 | purple_cow | Veight: seriously, when diablo came out, you where what, 5 years old? |
| 17:52.22 | darth_mall | hehe |
| 17:52.25 | ChipX86 | darth_mall: 4 was quite awesome too, but I loved 6 so much |
| 17:52.27 | Veight | ....lol |
| 17:52.31 | kergoth | i cant blame em for putting diablo on the list. they're quite right in that it spawned the action rpg genre. |
| 17:52.32 | ChipX86 | darth_mall: apparently the Japanese 5 was really really good |
| 17:52.39 | darth_mall | ChipX86: *nod |
| 17:52.42 | kergoth | i am kinda surprised that quake made it but doom didnt. |
| 17:52.58 | darth_mall | but I never found it very fun to play |
| 17:53.16 | darth_mall | so much clicking, solo play was really boring and difficult, and networked play at the time was kinda sketchy |
| 17:53.22 | ChipX86 | I liked Duke Nukem. Not the 3D shoot'em-up, but the original Duke Nuken, the platformer puzzle game |
| 17:53.31 | darth_mall | I remember that one ^^ |
| 17:54.01 | ChipX86 | ooh, Tripping the Rift season 2 starts tomorrow |
| 17:54.04 | kergoth | remember commander keen? |
| 17:54.06 | kergoth | good stuff, that |
| 17:54.10 | ChipX86 | kergoth: very |
| 17:54.33 | kergoth | and what was that one shooter game by that shareware comapny that started with an a.. |
| 17:54.34 | nullpuppy | commander keen rocked! |
| 17:54.36 | kergoth | apogee! |
| 17:54.37 | kergoth | they did Raptor |
| 17:54.41 | kergoth | that was a pretty fun game |
| 17:54.45 | nullpuppy | yeah |
| 17:54.51 | ChipX86 | those were the good day |
| 17:54.52 | ChipX86 | s |
| 17:55.00 | kergoth | epic pinball rocks. we need a game like that for linux |
| 17:55.11 | ChipX86 | you know hwat we really needA? |
| 17:55.14 | ChipX86 | (wow I can't type) |
| 17:55.17 | ChipX86 | The Incredible Machine |
| 17:55.27 | darth_mall | hehe |
| 17:55.30 | purple_cow | yes! |
| 17:55.35 | ChipX86 | that is sooo needed |
| 17:55.38 | kergoth | eh, gamespot forgot 'start' in the contra cheat code sequence |
| 17:55.42 | kergoth | hehe |
| 17:55.51 | ChipX86 | kergoth: woops :) |
| 17:56.04 | ChipX86 | everyone should have that memorized |
| 17:56.32 | ChipX86 | even Contra's konami code? |
| 17:56.33 | darth_mall | knew a bunch for Sonic 2, Mario Bros., Contra... |
| 17:56.36 | darth_mall | can't remember them |
| 17:56.38 | ChipX86 | awww |
| 17:56.41 | kergoth | i played contra 3 on my snes a -lot- |
| 17:56.45 | ChipX86 | up up down down left right left right b a start |
| 17:56.58 | darth_mall | that's the Mario one, isn't it? |
| 17:57.09 | ChipX86 | Contra |
| 17:57.10 | darth_mall | no... |
| 17:57.11 | kergoth | nope |
| 17:57.56 | purple_cow | hurray pillows! |
| 17:58.26 | darth_mall | grr... I need to remember to get that off of fembot |
| 17:58.34 | ChipX86 | I love the glitches in some of the old games |
| 17:58.47 | ChipX86 | the original Zelda 2 and Battle of Olympus releases had a wonderful glitch (they used the same game engine) |
| 17:59.18 | ChipX86 | if you did some certain key combination as you jumped, it would completely screw things up and you'd go flying. If you did it right, you could get past toiugh stages. Do it wrong and you end up dead |
| 17:59.32 | darth_mall | haha |
| 17:59.41 | ChipX86 | you'd actually fly through things, into different screens, sometimes different worlds altogether |
| 17:59.48 | ChipX86 | now Metroid was fun |
| 17:59.52 | ChipX86 | all kinds of "secret rooms" |
| 17:59.59 | ChipX86 | some of which were intentional, some of which were just glitches |
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| 18:04.19 | purple_cow | well, i don't agree with all of this, but this list is a lot better than imdb's top list |
| 18:04.26 | darth_mall | heh |
| 18:04.28 | ChipX86 | heh yeah |
| 18:04.39 | ChipX86 | ooh I want to play Lolo or Ducktails |
| 18:04.53 | file | dealing with fatal flaws in software is great |
| 18:05.06 | ChipX86 | ok, so design question |
| 18:05.35 | ChipX86 | say you have a list of devices to add. You want to show every possible device, but you may not be able to add a second of some kinds. You want to be able ot indicate that to the user within the list in some way |
| 18:05.39 | ChipX86 | how would you do this? |
| 18:05.52 | numist | yay ducktails! |
| 18:05.58 | numist | yay tmnt |
| 18:06.02 | ChipX86 | yay tmnt |
| 18:06.09 | gonkulator | indeed, DUcktails a wooo oh |
| 18:06.20 | ChipX86 | numist: yeah :) |
| 18:06.22 | Cae | why wouldn't you be able to add some? |
| 18:06.26 | numist | :) |
| 18:06.32 | ChipX86 | Cae: you might have the max number of that type of device supported |
| 18:06.37 | hardwire | gonkulator: you suck |
| 18:06.58 | gonkulator | hardwire: um... thanks? |
| 18:07.15 | purple_cow | ChipX86: i would just present a list and grey out the ones you've maxed out |
| 18:07.16 | gonkulator | hardwire: beep! |
| 18:07.16 | hardwire | seriously.. ducktails |
| 18:07.20 | Cae | I don't think I understand the question properly/fully |
| 18:07.27 | hardwire | now I am going to have that crap stuck in my head all day |
| 18:07.31 | purple_cow | with a tooltip or help button |
| 18:07.34 | gonkulator | oops |
| 18:07.34 | ChipX86 | purple_cow: yeah, that's what I'm leaning to. |
| 18:07.44 | numist | gonkulator: *hug* pass it on? :P |
| 18:07.46 | Cae | ah, yes |
| 18:07.56 | purple_cow | no reason to try to indicate to the user things that might happen in the future until they need to know |
| 18:07.58 | ChipX86 | Cae: so you have a list of devices. Some you can add only once (say, a sound device). That needs to be presented to the user in some fashion |
| 18:08.04 | gonkulator | numist: file is the only one who hugs me here... auto-reflex :) |
| 18:08.11 | numist | gonkulator: ah hah |
| 18:08.37 | hardwire | gonkulator: you know what happens to prirsts that hug too much? |
| 18:08.42 | hardwire | gonkulator: you know what happens to priests that hug too much? |
| 18:08.42 | numist | a holy poke sheild! |
| 18:08.44 | hardwire | :) |
| 18:08.55 | gonkulator | hardwire: no, what? |
| 18:09.04 | darth_mall | hardwire: the vatican protects them from legal repurcussions? |
| 18:09.10 | hardwire | nothing so far.. but several courts are looking into it. |
| 18:09.18 | darth_mall | hehe |
| 18:09.49 | file | gonkulator is evil |
| 18:10.18 | hardwire | and he hugs too much |
| 18:10.24 | purple_cow | mmmm hybrid rainbow |
| 18:10.27 | purple_cow | such a cool song |
| 18:13.59 | purple_cow | i love how there are little sprinklings of FLCL among their discography |
| 18:16.53 | darth_mall | hahaha |
| 18:17.05 | darth_mall | I think that's a Rocky Horror reference in today's SGR |
| 18:18.15 | purple_cow | hehe |
| 18:18.56 | purple_cow | hah. I think "consider this technicality a dogg's universal panacea" is my new favorite sentence ever |
| 18:19.30 | darth_mall | grr... I demand more brainslug |
| 18:20.59 | hardwire | I want to vomit |
| 18:21.37 | darth_mall | hahahaha... |
| 18:21.43 | darth_mall | EEEP! COOTIES! |
| 18:21.45 | darth_mall | hehe |
| 18:26.48 | darth_mall | IT is easy to get sucked back into because it's so short |
| 18:28.02 | purple_cow | well, there's that |
| 18:28.08 | purple_cow | plus there's the fact that it's hilarious |
| 18:28.34 | darth_mall | that too |
| 18:29.01 | Veight | wow servers back up? |
| 18:29.14 | purple_cow | i think abhorrence is definitely my favorite |
| 18:29.30 | purple_cow | though abide comes close :) |
| 18:31.36 | purple_cow | heh |
| 18:32.36 | darth_mall | ^^ |
| 18:33.01 | darth_mall | umbrellas make it even nicer if it's raining hard |
| 18:33.06 | darth_mall | ^^ |
| 18:33.13 | darth_mall | we're not getting any rain down here =( |
| 18:33.15 | darth_mall | just clouds |
| 18:34.02 | purple_cow | it's been raining here all day |
| 18:34.34 | darth_mall | t'wasn't raining when I left this morning =( |
| 18:35.09 | purple_cow | back in a few minutes if bookends has wifi |
| 18:40.38 | Sophie197 | yay |
| 18:41.28 | Cae | grats |
| 18:41.33 | ChipX86 | cool :) |
| 18:43.08 | Veight | mmm oatmeal |
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| 18:44.17 | kergoth | Sophie197: congrats, and good luck with that one |
| 18:44.37 | ChipX86 | Sophie197: when is it? |
| 18:44.57 | darth_mall | go Sophie197, go Sophie197 |
| 18:45.45 | darth_mall | Cae: what's up? |
| 18:45.55 | Cae | I can't do my work |
| 18:46.06 | Cae | because what I need, isn't there |
| 18:46.16 | Cae | and answers on WHY are not forthcoming |
| 18:47.00 | ChipX86 | Hookahman - Jesus is such a good song |
| 18:47.04 | ChipX86 | Cae: :(( |
| 18:47.06 | Cae | we need to port a set of scripts, and the scripts make no sense, are broken, and some of them are blatantly missing with no explanation. |
| 18:47.08 | ChipX86 | early lunch break? |
| 18:47.09 | ChipX86 | or late? |
| 18:47.14 | Cae | already ate |
| 18:47.23 | ChipX86 | ugh that sucks (the scripts, not lunch) |
| 18:47.24 | Cae | this just makes me grumpy, because I have NOTHING to do |
| 18:48.26 | darth_mall | hehe... "Last Update: Never" |
| 18:48.43 | darth_mall | Cae: multiple lunch breaks make the day go faster |
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| 18:52.18 | *** topic/#tacobeam is How many chops would a woodchuck make if a woodchuck could be chopped? A: 2 |
| 18:52.47 | ChipX86 | o/~ Once the stone you're crawling under is lifted off your shoulders.. Once the cloud that's raining over your head disappears, the noise that you'll hear is the crashing down of hollow years. o/~ |
| 18:53.51 | Cae | what's that from? |
| 18:54.13 | ChipX86 | Dream Theater - Hollow Years |
| 18:54.37 | ChipX86 | it's a good, soothing song |
| 18:54.43 | ChipX86 | hmm, seems gaim hard-codes "dim grey" |
| 18:54.44 | Cae | heh |
| 18:54.56 | Cae | *sigh* Daniel sent me another zip though, so.. |
| 18:55.08 | Cae | this gets me the default WoW interface |
| 18:55.23 | Cae | it actually appears to be decently well-organized at first glance.. |
| 18:56.41 | Cae | oh, damn, what's the command for line counting again.. |
| 18:56.47 | Cae | I haven't used it in forever.. |
| 18:57.09 | ChipX86 | wc -l |
| 18:57.18 | Cae | 198 |
| 18:57.24 | Cae | damn that's a lot.. |
| 18:57.40 | Cae | 96 lua files |
| 18:58.13 | Cae | 99 xml, 1 toc, and a directory |
| 18:58.37 | Cae | that still isn't all of em.. |
| 18:59.04 | Cae | ah, no, 197 total |
| 18:59.18 | purple_cow | yay, i'm here |
| 18:59.22 | ChipX86 | yay |
| 18:59.23 | Cae | so what do I feel like writing.. |
| 18:59.33 | Cae | well..first...this should be documented, and it's not.. |
| 18:59.40 | gonkulator | yay for purple_cow being here |
| 18:59.53 | Cae | or at least not where anyone can do anything with it, outside of blizzard |
| 19:00.06 | Cae | who I sincerely hope has its own internal documentation |
| 19:00.08 | darth_mall | who can tell me if DMA can be built as a module and what the name of the module is? |
| 19:00.17 | darth_mall | DMA for IDE, that is |
| 19:00.31 | darth_mall | erm... sorry... PATA |
| 19:00.35 | darth_mall | as opposed to SATA |
| 19:01.06 | purple_cow | darth_mall: DMA for PATA depends on your chipset |
| 19:01.45 | purple_cow | so you need to lspci and look for the IDE entry, then find that model in the list of drivers |
| 19:02.09 | darth_mall | well, but the important thing is to know whether it can be built as a module |
| 19:02.32 | purple_cow | i *think* it can, but it doesn't really make sense to do so |
| 19:02.32 | darth_mall | so I can't actually look at anything useful >< |
| 19:02.45 | darth_mall | well, it doesn't, but my guess is that ubuntu does |
| 19:02.53 | darth_mall | because of how they handle the kernel |
| 19:05.49 | Cae | mm..self-documenting code.. |
| 19:06.32 | purple_cow | hehe |
| 19:06.32 | CIA-11 | osiris-misc: 03jupiter * r156 10libsexy/ (ChangeLog libsexy/sexy-spell-entry.c): Fix spell checking/correction for the first word in the entry. |
| 19:07.10 | darth_mall | some day I'll get so bored I actually post something on there |
| 19:07.13 | darth_mall | *gasp* |
| 19:07.35 | purple_cow | i approve of that title :) |
| 19:07.39 | darth_mall | ^^ |
| 19:07.58 | purple_cow | oh my god |
| 19:08.01 | purple_cow | i just realized something |
| 19:08.07 | purple_cow | this guy has been emailing me about a libsexy bug, right |
| 19:08.19 | purple_cow | and his email address is @cygnusx-1.org |
| 19:08.27 | ChipX86 | where? |
| 19:08.29 | darth_mall | ok... |
| 19:09.01 | ChipX86 | I assume there's some point to that? :) |
| 19:09.07 | purple_cow | ChipX86: it's the one that you got initially, i haven't been copying you because it's mostly just boring "can you spell check me now?" type things |
| 19:09.14 | ChipX86 | ah |
| 19:09.15 | purple_cow | cygnus X-1 was the prison planet in blakes 7 :) |
| 19:09.21 | purple_cow | iirc |
| 19:09.23 | darth_mall | ohhhhhhhhh |
| 19:09.30 | ChipX86 | oh |
| 19:09.36 | darth_mall | yeah, I never watched enough of that show to catch that |
| 19:10.10 | ChipX86 | I thought you were going to say that it turns out that some secret military group wanted to use libsexy, or that this was an old friend from daycare, or that this was the president's brother or something |
| 19:11.23 | purple_cow | no, i'm just floored by the total geekiness of it |
| 19:11.44 | darth_mall | hehe |
| 19:12.20 | purple_cow | err, i'm not sure it was the prison planet, but it's definitely a blakes 7 reference |
| 19:12.37 | purple_cow | been too long since i saw it |
| 19:12.58 | Cae | erm..Chip..is it weird to absorb a new language in about 30 minutes or less? |
| 19:12.59 | ChipX86 | pfft, Joey never got libsexy into vmware's build tree |
| 19:13.08 | ChipX86 | that makes me sad. |
| 19:13.50 | purple_cow | Cae: depends on the language |
| 19:14.07 | ChipX86 | Cae: not really, if the concepts are similar to what you're used to |
| 19:14.17 | Cae | it's only lua |
| 19:14.24 | purple_cow | lua is trivial |
| 19:14.28 | ChipX86 | lua seems very generic |
| 19:14.28 | Cae | it has mildly strange syntax for some stuff, but that's about it |
| 19:14.44 | Cae | well, I'm not a big fan of using .. as a string concatenator |
| 19:15.33 | ChipX86 | mmm Era |
| 19:15.34 | Cae | or blah:blah() instead of a simpler blah.blah(). though I know you can use blah.blah(blah) |
| 19:15.44 | ChipX86 | Enae Volare Mezzo is a cool song |
| 19:15.51 | Cae | well, I absorbed python in about an hour |
| 19:16.16 | Cae | *shrug* I was distracted.. |
| 19:16.20 | ChipX86 | :) |
| 19:16.53 | ChipX86 | it compiles! |
| 19:17.51 | Cae | ChipX86: it works then! check it in! ;) |
| 19:17.59 | ChipX86 | heh :) |
| 19:18.08 | ChipX86 | I took on another large project at work |
| 19:18.16 | ChipX86 | (I seem to really like the large architectural stuff) |
| 19:19.01 | darth_mall | ChipX86: greek columns are a must |
| 19:19.17 | ChipX86 | yep |
| 19:24.40 | ChipX86 | food sounds so nice right now. I think I'll find some. |
| 19:25.10 | kergoth | bleh |
| 19:28.04 | ChipX86 | so I find that my brain is making an odd connection between what I'm doing on WoW and what I'm saying on the phone |
| 19:28.11 | Cae | oh? |
| 19:28.22 | ChipX86 | when I think of something in a conversation with someone, I know exactly where in WoW I was when I had that part of the conversation |
| 19:28.27 | Cae | lol |
| 19:28.30 | kergoth | lol |
| 19:28.34 | ChipX86 | it's like my brain tries to make these associations |
| 19:28.38 | kergoth | damn, only 55% to Grunt |
| 19:32.21 | Cae | I have some strange aversion to ever using "this" |
| 19:32.35 | Cae | I mean as in this.blah() and so on |
| 19:32.35 | ChipX86 | hrm, so the problem with dimming something out in a list view is that when you go to select it, it continues using that color, which often looks bad on the selection |
| 19:33.02 | Cae | is there not a way to change the color of the text when it is selected? |
| 19:33.09 | ChipX86 | could hack it so you can't actually select the dimmed ones |
| 19:33.17 | ChipX86 | Cae: yeah, it's doable |
| 19:33.21 | ChipX86 | I just didn't want to do it basicall |
| 19:33.22 | ChipX86 | y |
| 19:33.28 | Cae | lol |
| 19:37.05 | CIA-11 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r8737 10motion/py/Graph/Algorithms.py: create an algorithm base class which manages the basics of cacheing results and invalidating the cache when the graph changes. convert DotPrint to use the new base |
| 19:43.04 | CIA-11 | g2bridge: 03evan * r530 10documents/web/: For HTML docs. |
| 19:44.27 | CIA-11 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r8738 10motion/py/Graph/Algorithms.py: implement the beginning framework for Dijkstra's sssp algorithm |
| 19:47.14 | darth_mall | he ha such a fun name to spell |
| 19:47.19 | darth_mall | s/ha/has/ |
| 19:48.28 | Veight | hehe |
| 19:48.32 | Veight | 2 of my chars now are scouts |
| 19:48.58 | purple_cow | hehe |
| 19:49.01 | purple_cow | ``Floating point numbers are implemented using double in C. All bets on their precision are off unless you happen to know the machine you are working with.'' |
| 19:49.07 | ChipX86 | hah |
| 19:49.25 | Cae | http://www.robotcow.com/images/designs/R0048_GRAY.gif soo not a shirt for me to wear to blizzcon |
| 19:49.40 | purple_cow | darth_mall: yeah, i'm enjoying typing it |
| 19:50.01 | ChipX86 | Cae: hah |
| 19:50.04 | ChipX86 | nope |
| 19:51.16 | Cae | maybe my "I make boys cry" one. |
| 19:54.10 | CIA-11 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r8739 10motion/py/Graph/Algorithms.py: a little more Dijkstra implementation, add an identity() member which allows us to determine which cached algorithm results will work |
| 20:05.19 | Cae | LOL. if( button == nil ) then message("nil button passed into ActionButton_GetPagedID(), contact Jeff"); |
| 20:05.46 | Cae | I find that silly for some reason |
| 20:06.57 | CIA-11 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r8740 10motion/py/Graph/Algorithms.py: main body of Dijkstra's algorithm, which won't work until I write (or find) a priority queue |
| 20:07.51 | kergoth | Cae: hehe, having fun with lua? |
| 20:07.56 | purple_cow | ok, enough of this zehoretical computar sciencey stuff |
| 20:08.13 | Cae | reading through ALL of the default interface code to find out what happens where and how it's done |
| 20:08.22 | Cae | because then I can rip it to pieces as I wish :) |
| 20:08.27 | kergoth | nod |
| 20:08.31 | kergoth | pretty straightforward, mostly |
| 20:08.34 | Cae | yeah |
| 20:08.55 | kergoth | i need to get a better handle on doing a UI with their xml though |
| 20:09.09 | Cae | but I'm also writing a little bit of documentation for myself for each file, so that if I'm looking for something that does stuff, I know where to find it and roughly what it does |
| 20:09.19 | Cae | that would be nifty |
| 20:09.44 | Cae | especially if you could somehow get current skill level and what recipes they know. though that may not be possible. |
| 20:09.54 | kergoth | shouldnt be too difficult. take the base blizzard trade skills frame, enhance the ui some, lay out the data structures in savedvariables for the cache of others crafts, and a channel to get it |
| 20:10.41 | kergoth | Cae: thats exactly the plan. everyone would need to have it though. at certain circumstances itd broadcast a notification of the last date their crafting recipes has changed, so guild mebmers know whether their cached version is dirty. nothing to it |
| 20:11.02 | Cae | hmm..true |
| 20:11.35 | Cae | I was thinking stand-alone, by default :) because it's less of a hassle. but I think it's only possible by broadcasting.. |
| 20:11.53 | kergoth | should be able to keep the traffic pretty low though |
| 20:12.11 | kergoth | i should see how the GuildCharactersViewer works (lets you view the gear equipped by other guild members, if they have it too) |
| 20:12.13 | Cae | towards that end you could check any recipes you have banked against what guildies have the skill level for them, but do not know them |
| 20:12.43 | kergoth | indeed, there's already RecipeBook for showing that info on mouseover of your alts.. just enhance that to also query the stored guildy recipe/skill info |
| 20:12.50 | Cae | yeah |
| 20:17.44 | Cae | I need diff for windows |
| 20:19.40 | darth_mall | you need pants |
| 20:21.43 | ChipX86 | heh, I keep writing code thinking I have to work around bad infrastructure, and then I realize I made the infrastructure good and the several lines of ugliness turns into one |
| 20:21.48 | CIA-11 | g2bridge: 03evan * r531 10bridge/src/g2bridge.cpp: Free all the strings in the array. |
| 20:23.46 | *** join/#tacobeam SecretMethod70 (SecretMeth@c-67-173-67-244.hsd1.il.comcast.net) |
| 20:24.07 | darth_mall | hrm... now I have to relearn css again |
| 20:26.08 | Cae | I have to relearn xml again :) not that it's hard.. |
| 20:27.54 | Cae | Mike: Crack is bad, mmmmk? http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-realm-suramar&t=42691&p=1&tmp=1#post42691 |
| 20:32.44 | ChipX86 | ok, I seriously need to go to bed at a normal hour tonight |
| 20:33.04 | Cae | I do like ... in lua though |
| 20:33.11 | ChipX86 | ...? |
| 20:33.13 | Cae | ChipX86: yes, sleep is good for you |
| 20:33.28 | Cae | ... = variable number of string arguments |
| 20:33.32 | ChipX86 | ah |
| 20:33.39 | ChipX86 | so kinda like ... in C? |
| 20:33.47 | ChipX86 | but hopefully more sane? |
| 20:33.53 | Cae | ... = there's something here, we don't know how much or what, but there's more than one of em. maybe. |
| 20:34.00 | Cae | well, lua is based from c |
| 20:34.05 | Cae | so maybe not more sane :) |
| 20:34.11 | ChipX86 | heh |
| 20:34.14 | ChipX86 | oh |
| 20:34.18 | ChipX86 | do you have a blog? |
| 20:34.30 | Cae | blog the blogging bloggers |
| 20:34.33 | Cae | no :) |
| 20:34.35 | ChipX86 | awww |
| 20:34.40 | ChipX86 | we need people for Planet Tacobeam |
| 20:34.44 | Cae | heh |
| 20:35.20 | Cae | ohhhh...so THAT'S what those are.. okay.. |
| 20:35.29 | ChipX86 | ? |
| 20:35.48 | ChipX86 | http://www.deviantart.com/view/20993254/ |
| 20:35.49 | Cae | some of the variables and function names are not what I would have named them. |
| 20:35.57 | darth_mall | I have a blog! |
| 20:36.07 | ChipX86 | darth_mall: you do? |
| 20:36.16 | darth_mall | yes! with absolutely no content! |
| 20:36.19 | darth_mall | it's the best blog on lj |
| 20:36.20 | ChipX86 | boo |
| 20:36.21 | darth_mall | IMHO |
| 20:36.26 | Cae | classes, in this case, are the main classes on the left in the auction panel. like.. "equipment", "weapon", "reagents" and so on |
| 20:36.35 | Cae | subclasses are the critters under those |
| 20:36.44 | ChipX86 | ah |
| 20:36.50 | Cae | except when I see the word class, I automatically think of stuff like druid, paladin, and so on |
| 20:36.58 | ChipX86 | purple_cow: oohh what is it? |
| 20:36.58 | Cae | which was really confusing |
| 20:37.03 | numist | ooh, I should get a lj account.. they still require a code or something? |
| 20:37.58 | darth_mall | didn't take long |
| 20:38.04 | numist | hrm |
| 20:38.09 | darth_mall | then I uploaded a picture, posted a comment, and logged out ^^ |
| 20:38.28 | darth_mall | other than that, I haven't used it at all |
| 20:38.42 | numist | cool |
| 20:39.58 | darth_mall | yeah, it's not like that |
| 20:40.10 | numist | sweet |
| 20:40.26 | Cae | AuctionFrameFilters_UpdateInvTypes(...) - I have no idea what this function does. |
| 20:41.56 | Cae | maybe green, blue, grey? |
| 20:42.34 | ChipX86 | maybe |
| 20:42.46 | Cae | or maybe the scroll thingies? or the two buttons at the bottom to page between auction pages? |
| 20:42.54 | ChipX86 | I really need to get this place in shape so I can move the futon and prep the area for the couch and stuff |
| 20:43.14 | numist | ChipX86 is getting all cool and stuff with his furniture |
| 20:43.17 | ChipX86 | but then I'm left without a place ot sit until they come |
| 20:43.23 | numist | futon* |
| 20:43.28 | ChipX86 | numist: it's getting less fluffy over time |
| 20:43.30 | Cae | you've said that at least twice, ChipX86 :) |
| 20:43.33 | ChipX86 | I've had it for a year. I need a comfier place to sit |
| 20:43.39 | Cae | the needing to move stuff |
| 20:43.39 | numist | ChipX86: fluff it up then :P |
| 20:43.42 | ChipX86 | Cae: I know. I'm trying to get myself to actually do it |
| 20:43.50 | Cae | ChipX86: hire a fluffer |
| 20:43.52 | ChipX86 | psych myself up |
| 20:43.53 | ChipX86 | .... no |
| 20:43.55 | kergoth | lol |
| 20:43.58 | ChipX86 | bad Cae. Bad. |
| 20:43.58 | Cae | :) |
| 20:44.06 | Cae | it needed to be said! |
| 20:44.07 | numist | *ZOT* |
| 20:45.57 | ChipX86 | Cae: did you see my drawing? :( |
| 20:46.04 | Cae | yes |
| 20:46.15 | Cae | tis nifty |
| 20:46.15 | ChipX86 | didn't like it? :( |
| 20:46.28 | ChipX86 | I spent minutes on it |
| 20:46.32 | Cae | I'm code-distracted :P |
| 20:46.36 | ChipX86 | :) |
| 20:46.48 | Cae | as in I'm trying to absorb the entire API in one read-through |
| 20:46.53 | ChipX86 | heh |
| 20:46.57 | ChipX86 | always fun |
| 20:47.01 | kergoth | hehe |
| 20:47.45 | Cae | hehe |
| 20:47.46 | numist | yay copy paste |
| 20:47.52 | Cae | their api is out of date though |
| 20:47.56 | kergoth | yep |
| 20:48.04 | kergoth | doesnt really account for changes in the patches |
| 20:48.07 | Cae | yeah |
| 20:48.07 | ChipX86 | heh, I was wondering why my changes weren't showing up when I reran vmware.. turned out I somehow accidentally control-c'd the compile |
| 20:48.11 | kergoth | heh |
| 20:48.24 | kergoth | Cae: whats annoying is having to do a ReloadUI() every fucking time you make a change. |
| 20:48.25 | Cae | I am...writing a very lazy form of an api. kind of like cliff notes of an api.. |
| 20:48.32 | kergoth | i guess you could change the lua code on the fly, but not hte xml |
| 20:48.37 | ChipX86 | mmm the upcoming version of Workstation makes WS5.0 seem so sucky |
| 20:48.53 | kergoth | Cae: hehe, lets add doxygen comments! :P |
| 20:48.57 | Cae | LOL |
| 20:49.10 | Cae | well, I'll be at blizzcon in october |
| 20:49.13 | kergoth | cool |
| 20:49.15 | ChipX86 | :( |
| 20:49.16 | kergoth | wheres it at? |
| 20:49.31 | Cae | Chip's going to ignore me, despite me being in the same state as him. |
| 20:49.34 | Cae | it's in LA |
| 20:49.38 | kergoth | ah. |
| 20:49.38 | ChipX86 | I want to see you! |
| 20:49.45 | Cae | no you don't :P |
| 20:49.50 | ChipX86 | but we're going to be.. um.. at a convention I don't quite fit in with.. |
| 20:50.02 | Cae | uh-huh.. |
| 20:50.07 | kergoth | heh |
| 20:50.09 | ChipX86 | I'm being dragged there. |
| 20:50.14 | ChipX86 | kicking and screaming |
| 20:50.22 | ChipX86 | by way too many horny girls |
| 20:50.23 | Cae | right.. |
| 20:50.31 | Cae | kicking and screaming, eh.. |
| 20:50.47 | kergoth | bastard. i dont have nearly enough horny girls dragging me places |
| 20:50.48 | kergoth | :P |
| 20:50.49 | numist | ChipX86: the harem? |
| 20:51.12 | ChipX86 | numist: nod, looks to only be Amanda, Chelsea, Dell, and Jamie going, but I don't know |
| 20:51.29 | Cae | yes, you should |
| 20:51.30 | numist | ChipX86: how are you travelling? |
| 20:51.37 | ChipX86 | numist: it's in this area |
| 20:51.46 | numist | LA? |
| 20:51.49 | Cae | Chip just refuses to visit me |
| 20:51.51 | Cae | SF |
| 20:51.53 | ChipX86 | no, SF |
| 20:51.56 | numist | ah nice |
| 20:52.00 | ChipX86 | Cae: I want to visit you! |
| 20:52.04 | ChipX86 | :( |
| 20:52.09 | Cae | clearly, you do not :P |
| 20:52.11 | ChipX86 | making me feel all bad and stuff. |
| 20:52.16 | ChipX86 | you're mean! |
| 20:52.18 | kergoth | ChipX86: women are good at that :P |
| 20:52.20 | Cae | hehe |
| 20:52.30 | gonkulator | meeting Cae seems like its an easy thing to do |
| 20:52.42 | ChipX86 | gonkulator: there are many many hundreds of miles between us |
| 20:52.55 | ChipX86 | we're not in Maine here |
| 20:52.56 | Cae | so..you're going to a convention that you don't fit in with..instead of going to a convention with computer game developers and WoW players.. |
| 20:53.07 | ChipX86 | Cae: I want to go to blizzcon |
| 20:53.20 | Cae | then go :P |
| 20:53.38 | kergoth | lua's so spiffy. and small. and easy to embed. |
| 20:53.56 | Cae | I know pronounce you man and language. you may kiss the code. |
| 20:54.00 | Cae | er, now |
| 20:54.28 | kergoth | yeah baby, your semantics are so sexy! |
| 20:54.41 | kergoth | hmm, food |
| 20:54.44 | Cae | now kergoth, use protection.. |
| 20:55.08 | CIA-11 | navi-misc: 03jeffm * r8741 10screamers/edit/ (42 files in 12 dirs): world editor framework |
| 21:01.18 | CIA-11 | navi-misc: 03jeffm * r8742 10screamers/vc71/ (screamers.sln screamers.vcproj screamersd.vcproj): build on windows just like linux does, for simpliclty |
| 21:01.34 | purple_cow | ChipX86: converting word-check into a signal so apps can add their own check functions |
| 21:01.44 | ChipX86 | neat |
| 21:01.44 | purple_cow | case-in-point: nicknames should not appear misspelled in xchat-gnome |
| 21:01.51 | ChipX86 | agreed |
| 21:01.58 | ChipX86 | do it :) |
| 21:02.29 | kergoth | or even better, they could appear misspelled if they really are. use a "dictionary" containing just the nicks in the channel |
| 21:02.32 | kergoth | heh |
| 21:02.54 | purple_cow | kergoth: yeah, that's what i mean |
| 21:03.09 | kergoth | nifty |
| 21:03.11 | purple_cow | it would check them against the same list as it uses for nick completion |
| 21:03.31 | kergoth | bleh |
| 21:03.36 | kergoth | no bites on resume so far :( |
| 21:03.42 | darth_mall | purple_cow: so supposedly DHL is finally coming with a box for my laptop sometime between 4 and 7 today. If you'd prefer I can leave in 15 minutes to be home by 4, unless you're ok with dealing with it in the event they come before I get home |
| 21:03.48 | numist | kergoth: are you willing to relocate? |
| 21:04.59 | kergoth | numist: nope, thats the main issue. if i was, i wouldnt have a problem finding something. have never had a problem finding embedded linux prospects. i'm living at my townhouse with my dad right now, so most of my expenses are gone, and i dont know if i want to stay working in computers.. so need to get some cash flowing while i try to figure things out, and hopefully pay off some debt while i'm here in the process |
| 21:05.06 | purple_cow | darth_mall: heh, i was gonna ask about that... |
| 21:05.46 | darth_mall | I'm not fond of the idea of making you deal with it, so I'm willing to leave early today and make up the time |
| 21:05.52 | darth_mall | it's up to you |
| 21:06.56 | numist | kergoth: what else would you want to work on? |
| 21:07.08 | purple_cow | darth_mall: i'm ok with it so long as dhl stops being stupid |
| 21:07.41 | darth_mall | purple_cow: ok, all that info is on the envelope there. but there are now 2 airbill numbers. The second one, written in pencil, is the one that needs to be written on the box |
| 21:07.53 | darth_mall | the first one should be scratched out |
| 21:08.10 | darth_mall | the airbill number should be the only thing that matters |
| 21:08.18 | darth_mall | I think the rest of that is information for me to track it with or something |
| 21:08.46 | kergoth | numist: no idea, thats part of the problem :) |
| 21:09.08 | numist | kergoth: I see.. well you seem to be good at code, so if you do find something else, I hope your just as good |
| 21:09.09 | kergoth | i need to figure out if i want to stay in computers at all. if i dont, i should probably go to college and get a degree. if i do, there's no real point |
| 21:09.31 | numist | I feel you there |
| 21:09.46 | kergoth | hmm - http://seeker.dice.com/jobsearch/servlet/JobSearch?op=101&dockey=xml/e/b/eb1b615258c9706ef2d8b4657328cfb2@activejobs0&c=1&source=1 |
| 21:09.50 | numist | whats wrong with computers, kergoth? |
| 21:09.58 | Cae | okay, home |
| 21:10.06 | numist | later cae |
| 21:10.17 | kergoth | just wasnt happy in my last position, so not sure if i'm really happy doing it for a living. it might just be that i need to keep coding a hobby, you know |
| 21:11.40 | numist | yeah, Ive been thinking that lately as well |
| 21:13.20 | kergoth | i've seriously considered pulling an office space and getting into construction or something equally mindless |
| 21:13.59 | numist | I was thinking auto mechanic type stuff |
| 21:14.44 | kergoth | hehe, my dad did that as a career for a while, rebuilding transmissions, he ended up ditching it because it ruined cars as his hobby |
| 21:15.09 | numist | aw |
| 21:15.16 | numist | guess I shouldnt work in anything that is also my hobby |
| 21:15.20 | kergoth | hehe |
| 21:15.34 | ChipX86 | it still feels like a hobby at vmware. I guess it just depends on what you're doing |
| 21:16.01 | numist | at vmware they give you beer and video games, chippy |
| 21:16.10 | ChipX86 | we supply our own video games |
| 21:16.21 | numist | they supply the time |
| 21:20.29 | ChipX86 | ok, cool, this is working nicely. Time to clean up |
| 21:23.05 | kergoth | http://kergoth.com/files/Career/resume.pdf <-need comments/criticisms |
| 21:23.44 | gonkulator | first of all... it crashes Safari |
| 21:23.45 | kergoth | unfrotunately my recent modifications pushed it longer than 2 pages, need to fix that |
| 21:23.48 | kergoth | hah |
| 21:24.46 | gonkulator | when you list the distros you know how to use, say "and the one I put together" :) |
| 21:25.54 | kergoth | hehe, i mention that a couple lines below that. could add a blurb there too |
| 21:26.13 | kergoth | :) |
| 21:26.40 | kergoth | ugh, lol, theres a typo in my objective |
| 21:26.53 | *** join/#tacobeam file[laptop] (~file[lapt@mctnnbsah25-142166093154.nb.aliant.net) |
| 21:28.37 | gonkulator | kergoth: I see the word countless in a lot of places, does it add strength to the statements you make? |
| 21:29.32 | kergoth | didnt really think about it. need to proofread :) |
| 21:29.39 | gonkulator | heh :) |
| 21:30.19 | gonkulator | good resume though, pretty much everything there |
| 21:31.50 | gonkulator | what can I do for you? |
| 21:32.07 | file[laptop] | can you make Telus change the ESN on my account to a different one? |
| 21:32.20 | gonkulator | nope |
| 21:32.24 | file[laptop] | darn |
| 21:32.32 | gonkulator | bout all I am good for is praying |
| 21:32.40 | file[laptop] | bah |
| 21:32.43 | darth_mall | good thing you asked him |
| 21:32.57 | kergoth | heh |
| 21:33.11 | Veight | ooo |
| 21:33.12 | Veight | lemons |
| 21:33.43 | kergoth | alright, who stole my motivation |
| 21:33.49 | Veight | oops |
| 21:33.50 | Veight | sorry |
| 21:33.51 | file[laptop] | I did |
| 21:33.55 | kergoth | :( |
| 21:34.06 | Veight | heres some motivation to play wow |
| 21:35.28 | Veight | the wow servers were reset an hour ago and there still down... |
| 21:35.46 | darth_mall | oh no! you might have to find some other way to entertain yourself! |
| 21:35.49 | darth_mall | *gasp!* |
| 21:35.55 | Veight | lol |
| 21:44.24 | kergoth | hehe, this spam came from Antoine%LASTNAME |
| 21:44.28 | kergoth | guess they need to debug their scripts |
| 21:48.08 | purple_cow | kergoth: automake question for you |
| 21:48.31 | purple_cow | i have a couple targets that generate source files, which need to be run before it builds the library |
| 21:48.36 | purple_cow | how do i get those to be called? |
| 21:53.38 | kergoth | couldnt remember offhand, looked it up in the online docs. knew what i was looking for |
| 21:53.52 | kergoth | BUILT_SOURCES is it |
| 21:53.53 | kergoth | So, to conclude our introductory example, we could use BUILT_SOURCES = foo.h to ensure foo.h gets built before any other target (including foo.o) during make all or make check. |
| 21:53.56 | kergoth | </quote> |
| 21:58.42 | purple_cow | thanks |
| 21:58.46 | kergoth | np |
| 21:59.17 | darth_mall | grrr |
| 22:00.31 | CIA-11 | osiris-misc: 03jupiter * r157 10libsexy/ (6 files in 2 dirs): First crack at converting word-check into a signal which can be overridden |
| 22:03.01 | kergoth | bleh |
| 22:04.00 | kergoth | whew, just paid my car payment |
| 22:04.29 | CIA-11 | osiris-misc: 03jupiter * r158 10libsexy/ (4 files in 2 dirs): Use BOOLEAN instead of BOOL |
| 22:42.59 | CIA-11 | g2bridge: 03evan * r532 10documents/web/ (index.html install.html main.css): Formatting the docs |
| 22:45.21 | CIA-11 | osiris-misc: 03jupiter * r159 10libsexy/ (ChangeLog libsexy/sexy-spell-entry.c): Finish converting word-checking to a signal |
| 22:49.01 | CIA-11 | g2bridge: 03evan * r533 10documents/web/ (index.html install.html main.css): more formatting |
| 22:49.58 | CIA-11 | g2bridge: 03evan * r534 10documents/web/: hush |
| 22:50.54 | CIA-11 | g2bridge: 03evan * r535 10documents/web/ (index.html install.html): Delete a tag that wasn't doing anything. |
| 22:54.41 | CIA-11 | g2bridge: 03evan * r536 10documents/web/index.html: Format the table of contents a little better. |
| 22:56.54 | CIA-11 | g2bridge: 03evan * r537 10documents/web/ (index.html install.html): make the navigation things a little more consistent from page to page. |
| 23:07.18 | CIA-11 | g2bridge: 03evan * r538 10documents/web/ (index.html install.html main.css): Some color changes. |
| 23:07.47 | darth_mall | teim to head home |
| 23:12.47 | CIA-11 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r8743 10xchat-gnome/fe-gnome/ (Makefile.am main-window.c): use the new signal stuff in libsexy to make nicknames appear as correctly spelled words |
| 23:21.39 | CIA-11 | navi-misc: 03jeffm * r8744 10screamers/ (8 files in 7 dirs): |
| 23:21.39 | CIA-11 | navi-misc: add file open to editor |
| 23:21.39 | CIA-11 | navi-misc: start geting the world class and parser set up |
| 23:37.14 | CIA-11 | osiris-misc: 03jupiter * r160 10libsexy/ (ChangeLog libsexy/sexy-spell-entry.c): Vastly simplify and robustify spell checking by throwing out all the pango logical attribute stuff and just splitting on whitespace |
| 23:44.54 | ChipX86 | I have no place to sit! :) |
| 23:56.13 | CIA-11 | osiris-misc: 03jupiter * r161 10libsexy/ (ChangeLog libsexy/sexy-spell-entry.c): Make things more efficient by splitting into words once whenever the entry changes, instead of splitting every time we need to check (was causing multiple splits on context menu) |
| 23:58.31 | CIA-11 | osiris-misc: 03jupiter * r162 10libsexy/ (4 files in 3 dirs): Get rid of sexy_spell_entry_set_text, since gtk_entry_set_text works just fine now |
