| 00:02.29 | CIA-8 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r8509 10screamers/ (135 files in 4 dirs): import my hacked up versions of TNL and libtomcrypt that actually compile |
| 00:02.30 | lurgy | bye cae |
| 00:04.11 | ChipX86 | my svn doesn't make noise :( |
| 00:04.20 | darth_mall | ChipX86: turn up your volume |
| 00:04.41 | purple_cow | ChipX86: it was just crunching because that was such a giant commit |
| 00:06.29 | CIA-8 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r8510 10screamers/ (data/maps/ data/maps/test.xml src/tnl/ src/tnl/tnlVector.h): comment my changes to tnlVector.h better, fix jeff's silly windows formatting on the map file |
| 00:06.58 | darth_mall | this iAudio is really tempting me right now |
| 00:07.16 | darth_mall | for about $350 I could get the X5 and the iRiver car adapter doodad |
| 00:07.27 | ChipX86 | tempting :/ |
| 00:07.31 | darth_mall | yep |
| 00:07.44 | darth_mall | especially since my car only has a radio |
| 00:07.48 | darth_mall | and I have the money |
| 00:07.55 | darth_mall | but part of me thinks I should save it |
| 00:08.14 | ChipX86 | that's my main dilema |
| 00:09.42 | pagefault | what would you do if you found out your girlfriend was a witch |
| 00:10.21 | darth_mall | ask her to kill/hex a bunch of people for me |
| 00:11.28 | ChipX86 | pagefault: that'd be cool |
| 00:11.48 | ChipX86 | yayyy, they caught the serial child molester |
| 00:13.20 | pagefault | you wouldn't want to get her mad |
| 00:13.41 | spooklight | ChipX86, ?? |
| 00:15.08 | ChipX86 | there was a serial child molester they've been trying to find lately |
| 00:15.18 | ChipX86 | he's been in this general area (San Joseish, mainly) |
| 00:15.26 | ChipX86 | he has a notebook with thousands of kids names |
| 00:15.30 | ChipX86 | but they caught him and he's going to court |
| 00:15.32 | spooklight | oh i think i heard about that!! |
| 00:15.48 | spooklight | well, at least he's off the streets |
| 00:15.51 | ChipX86 | yep |
| 00:15.54 | ChipX86 | really old guy |
| 00:15.57 | spooklight | for now anyway, they always let them back out |
| 00:15.59 | ChipX86 | creepy looking |
| 00:16.07 | spooklight | hopefully he'll die soon then |
| 00:16.23 | ChipX86 | they're talking about it right now, brb |
| 00:18.10 | pagefault | sickos |
| 00:18.21 | ChipX86 | oh |
| 00:18.33 | ChipX86 | 36,000 boys listed |
| 00:18.33 | pagefault | what |
| 00:18.40 | ChipX86 | hundreds confirmed molested |
| 00:18.45 | pagefault | thats discusting |
| 00:18.48 | spooklight | holy crap! |
| 00:19.06 | pagefault | sick |
| 00:19.19 | ChipX86 | he would find kids who were illegal immigrants who didn't want to be deported |
| 00:19.20 | pagefault | sick |
| 00:19.32 | pagefault | I bet he will only get a slap on the wrist too |
| 00:19.32 | CIA-8 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r8511 10screamers/ (16 files in 3 dirs): repeat after me, mister tom, whoever you are: .h files are to be included, .c files are to be compiled. i will not #include a .c file. ever again. |
| 00:19.35 | pagefault | and will be out in 5 years |
| 00:19.36 | ChipX86 | pagefault: nah, I don't think so this time |
| 00:19.45 | ChipX86 | he's known as the worst molester ever seen |
| 00:19.50 | spooklight | oh, i was wondering why none of the 36000 said anything |
| 00:19.54 | ChipX86 | this is looking to become a huge trial |
| 00:19.59 | pagefault | yeah but he will probably plead to some mental problem |
| 00:20.02 | pagefault | and go to prison-lite |
| 00:20.09 | ChipX86 | spooklight: he would make lists of boys he'd find walking around. He probably didn't rape them all, fortunately |
| 00:20.20 | spooklight | oh really |
| 00:20.25 | pagefault | I think he should be raped up the ass with a splintered log |
| 00:20.26 | ChipX86 | oh wow |
| 00:20.37 | spooklight | pagefault, at the very least |
| 00:20.41 | ChipX86 | two teens stole a car in Santa Clara and sped in and out of traffic in Sunnyvale |
| 00:20.51 | ChipX86 | both are now dead after, believe it or not, getting hit by a car |
| 00:21.02 | ChipX86 | the news has stuff today |
| 00:21.02 | spooklight | wow |
| 00:21.26 | pagefault | alcohol? |
| 00:21.32 | ChipX86 | probably that and/or drugs |
| 00:21.42 | pagefault | I dunno about drugs |
| 00:21.53 | pagefault | depends on the drug I guess |
| 00:21.57 | ChipX86 | "Microsoft has completed the aquisition of Sybari Software this morning. Before the ink was even dry, Microsoft cut all new antivirus support for all Unix and Linux definitions." |
| 00:22.18 | numist | who is surprised? |
| 00:22.20 | ChipX86 | nobody |
| 00:22.24 | numist | good |
| 00:22.26 | ChipX86 | they're digging the whole deeper and deeper |
| 00:22.32 | ChipX86 | hole |
| 00:22.36 | pagefault | if it was weed they would be driving at like 10mph with the blinker on |
| 00:22.37 | numist | yes, they are |
| 00:22.48 | ChipX86 | pagefault: heh yeah |
| 00:22.49 | numist | pagefault: :P |
| 00:22.59 | ChipX86 | ok, time to focus on work again |
| 00:23.28 | pagefault | work is boring |
| 00:23.45 | ChipX86 | nah |
| 00:23.48 | ChipX86 | not too bad |
| 00:23.52 | numist | not too bad at all |
| 00:24.01 | ChipX86 | pagefault: did you see the pic of where I work? :) |
| 00:24.04 | pagefault | nope |
| 00:24.09 | pagefault | well I saw one from space |
| 00:24.17 | ChipX86 | http://osiris.chipx86.com/photos/vmware/outside/ |
| 00:24.36 | pagefault | ooh a darth potato |
| 00:24.42 | ChipX86 | darth tater |
| 00:24.54 | ChipX86 | such a wonderful toy |
| 00:25.09 | pagefault | looks nice there |
| 00:25.13 | pagefault | is there wifi outside? |
| 00:25.20 | ChipX86 | there will be |
| 00:25.24 | ChipX86 | they're putting that together now |
| 00:25.30 | KeyserLaptop | are there picnic tables? |
| 00:25.38 | ChipX86 | yep |
| 00:25.48 | pagefault | places to hide and make out in the bushes? |
| 00:25.48 | ChipX86 | there's a couple of balconies with picnic tables and grills |
| 00:25.53 | ChipX86 | pagefault: yep |
| 00:25.58 | KeyserLaptop | are there outlets near the picnic tables? |
| 00:26.06 | ChipX86 | KeyserLaptop: nope :/ |
| 00:26.25 | KeyserLaptop | well, you'd only be able to spend 3 or 4 hours outside working, then |
| 00:26.35 | pagefault | man |
| 00:26.35 | KeyserLaptop | :p |
| 00:26.35 | pagefault | that story is sick |
| 00:26.37 | ChipX86 | the rapist? |
| 00:26.40 | pagefault | yeah |
| 00:26.41 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 00:26.50 | pagefault | rape the rapist in the ass |
| 00:26.55 | pagefault | 50000000x |
| 00:26.55 | ChipX86 | hopefully he'll just die |
| 00:26.59 | ChipX86 | of natural causes is fine by me |
| 00:27.12 | ChipX86 | like, a guy naturally ripping his eyes out of his sockets with toothpicks |
| 00:27.12 | pagefault | they should make the rapist suffer |
| 00:27.14 | pagefault | or like |
| 00:27.15 | numist | of unnatural causes is ok too |
| 00:27.17 | pagefault | do like voyager |
| 00:27.25 | pagefault | implement the memories of the victims in the brain |
| 00:27.27 | pagefault | so they have to live it over |
| 00:27.29 | ChipX86 | and naturally skinning him slowly |
| 00:27.57 | pagefault | well |
| 00:28.03 | pagefault | hopefully someone will get to him in prison |
| 00:28.27 | pagefault | that is sick for criminal standards |
| 00:28.31 | pagefault | people in prison don't like them |
| 00:28.34 | ChipX86 | yep |
| 00:29.53 | pagefault | haha |
| 00:30.04 | pagefault | the person on the idol show here who just got voted to go ahead is singing way off key now |
| 00:32.34 | purple_cow | awesome |
| 00:32.40 | purple_cow | i just got a bill for $1 from the university |
| 00:32.44 | numist | ... |
| 00:32.50 | pagefault | go buy yourself a chocolate bar |
| 00:32.50 | numist | dont pay it |
| 00:33.00 | pagefault | and mail them the wrapper |
| 00:34.27 | ChipX86 | hmm, I have this craving for Metroid |
| 00:34.58 | KeyserLaptop | Yeah, metroid is good blackened, with a little tartar sauce on the side |
| 00:35.09 | ChipX86 | :P |
| 00:35.18 | ChipX86 | a craving for the game |
| 00:35.28 | numist | yay metroid |
| 00:35.28 | ChipX86 | I can't imagine a metroid being very tasty, but who knows |
| 00:35.42 | numist | I want the game boy original version though |
| 00:35.50 | ChipX86 | Metroid II? |
| 00:35.57 | ChipX86 | that game is a maze |
| 00:36.10 | ChipX86 | oh, unless you mean the NES one for the GBA? |
| 00:40.58 | numist | no, metroid 2 |
| 00:41.06 | ChipX86 | ah |
| 00:41.06 | numist | it is a maze, but it was reasonably fun |
| 00:41.09 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 00:41.14 | ChipX86 | I got so lost |
| 00:41.24 | numist | I got lost all the damn time |
| 00:42.20 | ChipX86 | in Metroid I, I almost always knew where I was. For a while, I knew Brinstar, Norfair, and Tourian like the back of my hand |
| 00:42.36 | ChipX86 | but it's been so long |
| 00:42.36 | numist | nice |
| 00:42.43 | numist | yeah, Id like to play metroid 1 again |
| 00:43.05 | ChipX86 | just don't buy it for the GBA |
| 00:43.08 | ChipX86 | it's a scam! |
| 00:43.11 | numist | hehe ok |
| 00:43.26 | ChipX86 | if you buy Metroid: Zero Mission for GBA, you can unlock the original metroid |
| 00:44.13 | numist | nice |
| 00:47.15 | *** join/#tacobeam SecretMethod70 (SecretMeth@c-67-173-67-244.hsd1.il.comcast.net) |
| 00:47.21 | ChipX86 | hey Secret |
| 00:52.40 | SecretMethod70 | hey ChipX86 |
| 00:52.45 | SecretMethod70 | hmm |
| 00:52.50 | SecretMethod70 | Cannot join #gaim (You are banned). |
| 00:52.53 | CIA-8 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r8512 10screamers/ (data/maps/test.xml src/WorldParser.cpp): xml is lower case |
| 00:52.54 | SecretMethod70 | wonder how that happened |
| 00:52.54 | ChipX86 | huh. |
| 00:52.56 | ChipX86 | dunno |
| 00:52.59 | ChipX86 | probably comcast |
| 00:53.05 | SecretMethod70 | ... |
| 00:53.06 | ChipX86 | IM LSchiere |
| 00:53.10 | SecretMethod70 | they banned comcast? :( |
| 00:53.14 | ChipX86 | maybe |
| 00:53.17 | ChipX86 | ask for a ban exemption |
| 00:53.24 | SecretMethod70 | I see |
| 00:54.53 | SecretMethod70 | --- LSchiere :No such nick/channel |
| 00:55.02 | ChipX86 | try KingAnt |
| 00:55.07 | purple_cow | rofl |
| 00:55.08 | purple_cow | http://www.venganza.org/ |
| 00:57.49 | pagefault | piyush ranjan writes "An Indian researcher has cracked the much-touted "impenetrable" Windows Genuine Advantage of Microsoft. According to Microsoft this service would soon require all Windows users to verify their license before downloading updates." |
| 00:57.56 | pagefault | what was there to be cracked to begin with? |
| 00:58.03 | pagefault | I just used a keygen and I got a valid key that worked with it |
| 00:58.13 | ChipX86 | slashdot |
| 01:02.58 | *** join/#tacobeam pagefault (Eric@69.158.161.48) |
| 01:03.03 | ChipX86 | bye bye phone. When it rings, I lose wifi |
| 01:04.39 | *** join/#tacobeam lalo (~lalo@221.122.43.98) |
| 01:06.08 | *** join/#tacobeam pagefault (Eric@69.158.161.48) |
| 01:19.52 | purple_cow | ooh neat |
| 01:19.55 | purple_cow | scons -c just works |
| 01:20.18 | ChipX86 | venganza.org is great |
| 01:22.19 | CIA-8 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r8513 10screamers/ (126 files in 5 dirs): revamp the scons build system |
| 01:26.44 | purple_cow | mmm |
| 01:28.09 | pagefault | new nvidia card |
| 01:28.09 | pagefault | the cost |
| 01:28.11 | pagefault | $599 |
| 01:31.06 | ChipX86 | geeze |
| 01:31.14 | ChipX86 | waste of money |
| 01:31.28 | numist | damn |
| 01:34.22 | CIA-8 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r8514 10screamers/ (SConstruct src/SConscript src/tnl/tomcrypt/SConscript): more revamping |
| 01:41.32 | CIA-8 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r8515 10screamers/ (6 files in 2 dirs): hmm. for some reason, jeff's editor shat a whole bunch of ^M's all over the place, but not in a consistent enough way to let vim recognize it as a DOS file |
| 01:44.45 | CIA-8 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r8516 10screamers/ (146 files in 5 dirs): set svn:eol-style on everything, so i don't have to deal with that anymore |
| 01:54.46 | purple_cow | urgh, the flag burning amendment passed in the house |
| 01:54.54 | ChipX86 | guh |
| 01:55.50 | *** join/#tacobeam numist (~scott@numist.sustaining.supporter.pdpc) |
| 01:58.05 | numist | regarding what? |
| 02:00.07 | *** join/#tacobeam pagefault_ (Eric@69.158.159.132) |
| 02:00.29 | purple_cow | the flag-burning amendment |
| 02:01.06 | numist | ... |
| 02:01.13 | numist | send a picture of a burning flag :P |
| 02:03.54 | purple_cow | naw, i'm gonna write a nice letter pointing out how this kind of hyper-nationalism can only harm the country |
| 02:04.07 | numist | think itll get read? |
| 02:04.16 | numist | stop by kinkos and make a million copies |
| 02:04.19 | numist | handwrite the first |
| 02:04.25 | numist | :) |
| 02:09.26 | purple_cow | just using the email form |
| 02:09.32 | purple_cow | it should be read by someone, even if they're just an aid |
| 02:09.38 | numist | run a script on it then |
| 02:10.02 | numist | they dont have turing tests on contact forms yet, do they? |
| 02:10.14 | purple_cow | i'd be surprised if they *didn't* filter out dupes |
| 02:10.44 | *** join/#tacobeam SecretMethod70 (~SecretMet@c-67-173-67-244.hsd1.il.comcast.net) |
| 02:11.26 | numist | I wouldnt be... youve obviously never worked for the gov... whatever works with the least effort is the name of the game |
| 02:17.46 | purple_cow | complaining to elected officials is always so much fun |
| 02:18.21 | numist | is it? Ive never.. since I cant elect, I figure it dont matter |
| 02:19.11 | purple_cow | you can't? |
| 02:19.30 | numist | alien |
| 02:19.40 | purple_cow | ah |
| 02:19.44 | numist | :) |
| 02:19.54 | purple_cow | i was going through the list in my head, but missed that one |
| 02:20.04 | purple_cow | too young? no |
| 02:20.07 | purple_cow | felon? well, maybe |
| 02:20.19 | numist | hehe |
| 02:20.25 | ChipX86 | we haven't ruled that out yet |
| 02:20.31 | numist | yeah, fel0n, but s0meh0w Im still all0wed t0 use a c0mputer |
| 02:20.48 | numist | if I were t0 be c0nvicted 0f a fel0ny, it w0uld be via c0mputer |
| 02:20.57 | numist | s0rry ab0ut the 0's my letter key is b0rked |
| 02:21.13 | nullpuppy | lol |
| 02:21.20 | numist | and it sucks |
| 02:21.23 | nullpuppy | sorry... |
| 02:21.23 | nullpuppy | l0l |
| 02:21.24 | nullpuppy | ;) |
| 02:21.31 | numist | kn0w where I can get a new keyb0ard f0r a T30? |
| 02:21.34 | numist | psh |
| 02:25.48 | numist | n0 ideas? |
| 02:26.03 | numist | :/ |
| 02:27.15 | purple_cow | ibm.com might be a starting point |
| 02:28.06 | numist | :/ |
| 02:28.12 | numist | think I can get 0ne in < 5 days? |
| 02:28.45 | purple_cow | probably |
| 02:28.54 | numist | hrm |
| 02:29.28 | numist | I CANT TYPE KEYB0ARD!!! 0h n0es |
| 02:33.09 | numist | grr IBMs site is unhelpful |
| 02:57.35 | ChipX86 | guess there's no movie invite happening tonight |
| 03:02.18 | numist | 0k, new keyb0ard is in the mail w00t |
| 03:06.29 | purple_cow | aargh |
| 03:06.40 | purple_cow | if i try to enable glx on my desktop, X segfaults |
| 03:06.58 | purple_cow | that's possibly the most annoying way ever for X to fail |
| 03:07.13 | ChipX86 | yep |
| 03:07.15 | ChipX86 | except when it locks the box |
| 03:07.30 | purple_cow | well, yeah |
| 03:07.36 | purple_cow | but since i use nvidia, i haven't had that problem for years ;) |
| 03:09.37 | ChipX86 | I might have to sacrifice a small animal soon to get xdamage support in the ati drivers |
| 03:09.43 | numist | 0h dear |
| 03:09.48 | ChipX86 | apparently, they think it's a silly thing to spend time on |
| 03:09.49 | file[laptop] | how small? |
| 03:09.51 | ChipX86 | from what I've heard |
| 03:09.55 | ChipX86 | file[laptop]: numist-sized |
| 03:10.02 | file[laptop] | eek! |
| 03:10.10 | numist | 0_0 |
| 03:10.22 | file[laptop] | run faster |
| 03:10.51 | ChipX86 | Nobody loves you, more than they ought to. Nobody cares what you think. Still all those pictures of you and your sisters.. I'll always play the fool. I'll always play with you. |
| 03:17.22 | numist | :( |
| 03:17.56 | ChipX86 | WoW sounds like fun right now. Too bad I should hack on galago or the notification stuff |
| 03:35.47 | ChipX86 | hi |
| 03:35.56 | kergoth | yay, home |
| 03:36.19 | file[laptop] | Hello! Thank you for calling, your call is important to us. Please continue to hold on the line. You are almost the next person in the queue. |
| 03:53.55 | lurgy | hehehe |
| 03:53.57 | lurgy | http://www.venganza.org/piratesarecool.jpg |
| 03:54.06 | lurgy | purple_cow: up for some mikey palin? |
| 03:54.08 | file[laptop] | these words are my own, from my heart! I love you! |
| 03:55.42 | numist | file[laptop]: my ass... |
| 03:56.36 | file[laptop] | numist: well aren't you bitter |
| 03:56.50 | numist | file[laptop]: yeah.. been t00 near the end 0f the line bef0re |
| 03:57.31 | lurgy | ChipX86: so how serious was jdub about adding galago to e-d-s? |
| 03:57.41 | nullpuppy | mmm, real food |
| 03:57.52 | nullpuppy | stove top stuffing and grilled chicken strip thingies |
| 04:00.19 | ChipX86 | lurgy: very |
| 04:00.50 | numist | *yawn* |
| 04:00.58 | ChipX86 | I also mentioned an experimental notificaiton daemon with plugin support for rendering the notifications, and he said that's bad because fewer things should have loadable modules |
| 04:02.43 | lurgy | well, it sounds cool anyhow :) |
| 04:02.57 | lurgy | would get galago into gnome |
| 04:03.15 | purple_cow | ChipX86: why should fewer things have loadable modules? |
| 04:03.25 | file[laptop] | yay lurgy |
| 04:04.40 | ChipX86 | purple_cow: I think jdub's sitting on one extreme of the whole "We have too many libraries and daemons" thing |
| 04:05.21 | purple_cow | well, i can sort of understand the libraries thing, since it makes it easier for things to go unmaintained |
| 04:05.25 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 04:05.36 | purple_cow | but i don't see how that has anything to do with the decision of whether or not to use .so's |
| 04:05.41 | ChipX86 | but jdub thinks the solution, apparently, is to merge all this stuff. He's told me this about things before |
| 04:06.05 | ChipX86 | there's no reason to make galago part of evolution, and there's no reason to just not support modules when there's no reason not to |
| 04:08.58 | purple_cow | well, to be fair, there are valid reasons to not use modules, but still, it's not a decision he should care about at all |
| 04:09.31 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 04:09.46 | ChipX86 | my daemon is an experimental one |
| 04:10.03 | ChipX86 | so I want module support for testing various types of notification renderers |
| 04:10.32 | ChipX86 | he's more than welcome to integrate that into some other daemon. However, galago-daemon in evolution-data-server? Over my dead body :P |
| 04:11.52 | CIA-8 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r8517 10screamers/ (145 files in 5 dirs): |
| 04:11.52 | CIA-8 | navi-misc: start writing some network code. apparently tomcrypt isn't being linked in properly at all, so move it up a directory in order to make it work ju |
| 04:11.52 | CIA-8 | navi-misc: ts like the other libraries, which still isn't working |
| 04:25.39 | purple_cow | grrrr |
| 04:25.41 | purple_cow | g++ -o src/screamersd src/ConnectionManager.o src/ScreamersD.o src/TextUtils.o src/World.o src/WorldParser.o -Lsrc/tinyxml -Lsrc/tomcrypt -Lsrc/t |
| 04:25.41 | purple_cow | nl -ltinyxml -ltomcrypt -ltnl |
| 04:25.41 | purple_cow | src/tnl/libtnl.a(netInterface.o): In function `TNL::NetInterface::computeClientIdentityToken(TNL::Address const&, TNL::Nonce const&)': |
| 04:25.42 | purple_cow | src/tnl/netInterface.cpp:131: undefined reference to `sha256_init' |
| 04:25.53 | purple_cow | david@kirby ~/projects/navi-misc/screamers/src/tomcrypt $ nm libtomcrypt.a |grep sha256_init |
| 04:25.54 | purple_cow | 000009c0 T sha256_init |
| 04:25.58 | purple_cow | i don't understand :( |
| 04:27.54 | ChipX86 | I bet I do |
| 04:28.01 | ChipX86 | is sha256_init in a .c file? |
| 04:28.01 | purple_cow | oh? |
| 04:28.04 | purple_cow | yeah |
| 04:28.14 | ChipX86 | in the header file for it, wrap the file in a big extern "C" { ..... } |
| 04:28.29 | purple_cow | ooh, this is gonna be *awesome* |
| 04:29.11 | ChipX86 | ? |
| 04:29.57 | purple_cow | there are about 50 such .c files |
| 04:30.06 | ChipX86 | nod |
| 04:30.11 | ChipX86 | they need to be in each .h file |
| 04:30.36 | ChipX86 | so #ifdef FOO_H #define FOO_H enums here, typedefs there, extern "C" { void foobar(); void fish(int i); } #endif |
| 04:35.25 | purple_cow | oog |
| 04:35.34 | purple_cow | it's got extern C in there :( |
| 04:35.42 | ChipX86 | in the .h? |
| 04:35.52 | purple_cow | yeah |
| 04:35.56 | ChipX86 | hrm |
| 04:36.04 | ChipX86 | and sha256_init is in it? |
| 04:37.02 | purple_cow | yep |
| 04:39.45 | purple_cow | yep |
| 04:39.53 | ChipX86 | that's officially weird |
| 04:40.45 | purple_cow | besides, if that were the problem, wouldn't the undefined reference error be visibly mangled? |
| 04:40.51 | ChipX86 | probably |
| 04:41.35 | purple_cow | hrmph. where are kergoth or TD when you need them? |
| 04:51.11 | CIA-8 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r8518 10screamers/src/ (SConscript tomcrypt/SConscript): i'm an idiot |
| 04:57.34 | nullpuppy | hrm.. ogre doesn't seem to have any *nix demo's.. all win32 :/ |
| 04:58.47 | purple_cow | the sample apps should run fine on linux... |
| 04:59.11 | nullpuppy | yeah, i was looking at the demo's though.. prebuilt.. only win32 |
| 04:59.24 | nullpuppy | i was looking for something quick and easy to take a look at :) |
| 05:02.13 | spooklight | kergoth, *poke* i'm listening to Era right now!! thank you so much :D |
| 05:02.25 | nullpuppy | Era? |
| 05:02.26 | kergoth | spooklight: you're welcome |
| 05:02.32 | spooklight | :D |
| 05:02.35 | kergoth | nullpuppy: cool band, enigma-like. good stuff |
| 05:02.43 | kergoth | nullpuppy: got it off ubernet at spooklight's request |
| 05:02.43 | nullpuppy | hmm, ok |
| 05:02.55 | spooklight | kergoth, but better than enigma XD |
| 05:02.59 | kergoth | hehe |
| 05:04.06 | spooklight | i loves Era :) |
| 05:04.41 | nullpuppy | hrm.. |
| 05:04.43 | file[laptop] | nullpuppy: DUSTIN! |
| 05:04.49 | nullpuppy | hyperion still at 24.118.222.11? |
| 05:04.55 | nullpuppy | file[laptop]: JOSH! |
| 05:05.00 | purple_cow | hmm, i think that might have been the problem... |
| 05:05.02 | file[laptop] | nullpuppy: hi. |
| 05:05.08 | lurgy | i'm troy mcclure |
| 05:05.08 | nullpuppy | sup :) |
| 05:05.18 | CIA-8 | galago: 03chipx86 07glib-port * r1972 10libgalago/ (30 files in 2 dirs): |
| 05:05.18 | CIA-8 | galago: - Changed all galago_return_* macros to g_return_*. |
| 05:05.18 | CIA-8 | galago: - Fixed up part of GalagoAccount, but not nearly enough to compile. |
| 05:05.18 | CIA-8 | galago: - Make GalagoImage, GalagoAvatar, and GalagoPhoto compile. |
| 05:05.18 | CIA-8 | galago: - Deleted galago-object-utils.h. |
| 05:05.19 | file[laptop] | nothin' |
| 05:05.21 | ChipX86 | there we go |
| 05:05.30 | lurgy | you may remember me from such documentaries as "man vs. nature: the road to victory" |
| 05:05.33 | nullpuppy | always a good. |
| 05:05.35 | purple_cow | screw you, gentoo! |
| 05:05.37 | kergoth | nullpuppy: hyperion.kergoth.com is current, whatever that is |
| 05:05.43 | nullpuppy | ok |
| 05:06.20 | ChipX86 | 200GB HD for $80 *without* any rebates |
| 05:06.23 | ChipX86 | free shipping |
| 05:06.27 | nullpuppy | wow |
| 05:06.30 | ChipX86 | Maxtor |
| 05:06.35 | nullpuppy | oh |
| 05:06.35 | nullpuppy | eww |
| 05:06.35 | ChipX86 | 7200RPM, 8MB cache |
| 05:06.42 | nullpuppy | what's the warranty? |
| 05:06.47 | ChipX86 | dunno |
| 05:06.56 | ChipX86 | I'd still buy the 320GB WD for ~$120 |
| 05:07.02 | ChipX86 | or 300GB or whatever it was |
| 05:07.05 | nullpuppy | hrm.. can't even ping it... |
| 05:07.16 | nullpuppy | yeah, thats not bad |
| 05:08.31 | kergoth | http://www.tshirthell.com/miscpages/newshirt502n.htm :) |
| 05:08.36 | kergoth | latest tshirthell additions |
| 05:08.37 | nullpuppy | there we go, hopefully |
| 05:08.55 | nullpuppy | yay, there we go, stupid host key changed though :/ |
| 05:09.16 | lurgy | sleeepin time |
| 05:09.30 | ChipX86 | ok, you know you're just randomly checking news sites out of boredom when you open the menu and click a random entry without even looking at the monitor |
| 05:09.31 | purple_cow | yay, now i can try all of ogre's samples |
| 05:09.47 | nullpuppy | ChipX86: lol |
| 05:09.48 | purple_cow | as much as i love my laptop, the GL on there is a POS |
| 05:09.56 | ChipX86 | purple_cow: yeah :/ |
| 05:10.08 | ChipX86 | I need to get a geforce card for my main box for development purposes |
| 05:10.14 | ChipX86 | "main" box, as if I ever use it anymore |
| 05:10.21 | nullpuppy | kergoth: oh man.. the last one there is soooo wrong.... |
| 05:10.22 | nullpuppy | :) |
| 05:10.26 | ChipX86 | what I need to do is get a tv in that room so I'll be in there more |
| 05:10.47 | ChipX86 | nullpuppy: heh yeah |
| 05:11.00 | nullpuppy | ChipX86: in a few weeks/month or two.. the geforce 7800gtx will be out... only $600-$700 ... :) |
| 05:11.32 | ChipX86 | nullpuppy: that is so wrong |
| 05:11.40 | ChipX86 | I will never spend that much on a stupid graphics card |
| 05:11.44 | nullpuppy | hehe |
| 05:12.13 | nullpuppy | the new top of the line ati card was rumored to hit $1000+ .. i don't really see that happening though... |
| 05:12.31 | nullpuppy | mainly cause they mentioned like.. 512mb to 1gb of video ram.... |
| 05:12.41 | ChipX86 | who really needs that? |
| 05:13.14 | ChipX86 | what's sad is that there's going to be some guy out there shelling out that much for a graphics card for the sole purpose of bragging to his friends |
| 05:13.15 | nullpuppy | only people i can think of would be people doing heavy graphics work.. in which cause.. you'd realistically want to go firegl or quatro instead then... |
| 05:13.18 | purple_cow | there are people who need that, but they're generally doing science rather than games |
| 05:13.30 | nullpuppy | yeah |
| 05:13.33 | ChipX86 | true.. |
| 05:13.33 | nullpuppy | theres that too.. |
| 05:13.52 | purple_cow | although games are starting to get up there, in terms of tri count |
| 05:13.56 | nullpuppy | kergoth: do you have any era? or am i blind? |
| 05:14.11 | nullpuppy | yeah, they still aren't needing that much ram |
| 05:14.15 | nullpuppy | s/ram/video ram/ |
| 05:14.26 | kergoth | nullpuppy: all my new stuff goes to /srv/share2/Audio/Pending/Incoming until i get around to tagging and naming it. do a ls --sort=date --reverse /srv/share2/Audio/Pending/Incoming/ |
| 05:14.29 | ChipX86 | I want a geforce card with dual dvi, but I still don't want to pay those prices yet |
| 05:14.37 | nullpuppy | oh.. right :) |
| 05:14.45 | nullpuppy | ChipX86: how much do you want to spend? |
| 05:14.52 | ChipX86 | since I still need a new mp3 player, a couch, a tv.. |
| 05:15.08 | ChipX86 | nullpuppy: want to spend? $5. Willing to spend? $120 |
| 05:15.20 | nullpuppy | hmm, ok |
| 05:15.21 | ChipX86 | but not $120 yet |
| 05:15.35 | ChipX86 | I still need to get to the point where I'm doing actual work in there |
| 05:15.53 | nullpuppy | hmm.. 160ish you could do with dual dvi without a problem .. (agp 6600...) |
| 05:16.05 | nullpuppy | yeah |
| 05:16.21 | ChipX86 | might be sooner rather than later, since I want to do some composite + notification stuff |
| 05:16.27 | nullpuppy | and if you're thinking of waiting another month or two until you get it.. that really shouldn't be a problem |
| 05:16.32 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 05:17.41 | purple_cow | woo, guess i get to re-emerge ogre, 'cuz they added all these use flags for it :P |
| 05:17.59 | nullpuppy | hehe |
| 05:18.27 | nullpuppy | i'm gonna have to use overlay to get ogre to install.. unless the ebuilds have been updated to include ~amd64... |
| 05:18.40 | nullpuppy | nope, still don't have the keyword |
| 05:18.54 | purple_cow | you'll prolly want to turn on cegui, devil & cg use flags ;) |
| 05:19.07 | nullpuppy | k :) |
| 05:20.07 | nullpuppy | whats the latest release? 1.0.2? |
| 05:20.12 | purple_cow | yeah |
| 05:20.16 | nullpuppy | k |
| 05:21.00 | nullpuppy | how do you do a regex search with grep? (like to search for a couple different strings within a file...) |
| 05:21.11 | nullpuppy | i know its possible.. i just can't remember how... |
| 05:21.44 | purple_cow | you use egrep |
| 05:21.46 | purple_cow | :) |
| 05:23.24 | nullpuppy | ah.. there we go, perfect :) |
| 05:24.30 | CIA-8 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r8519 10screamers/ (include/ConnectionManager.h src/ConnectionManager.cpp): hey look, it's got a tick() |
| 05:26.18 | nullpuppy | hmm.. gimp only took 15m first time.. so.. depending on how big ogre is.. probably looking about 45minutes total... yay for amd64 :) |
| 05:26.38 | nullpuppy | of course.. this is assuming ogre will build 64bit binaries... :) |
| 05:27.43 | purple_cow | i don't see why it wouldn't |
| 05:28.18 | nullpuppy | some things just aren't 64bit happy yet... |
| 05:28.50 | nullpuppy | if it was coded well enough it shouldn't have a problem.. but dunno... i ran into some simple things in the beginning that wouldn't build right... we'll see |
| 05:29.34 | purple_cow | i think most of the internal stuff in ogre that would care about sizes all use the graphics APIs, which define things pretty strictly |
| 05:29.39 | purple_cow | a GLint is the same everywhere |
| 05:30.50 | nullpuppy | yeah |
| 05:32.59 | nullpuppy | hmm.. i think i might play wiht povray or blender or something |
| 05:34.06 | CIA-8 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r8520 10screamers/ (3 files in 2 dirs): omg, a nested namespace |
| 05:36.58 | purple_cow | blender! blender! |
| 05:36.59 | purple_cow | go blender! |
| 05:37.07 | purple_cow | ^^ |
| 05:37.39 | CIA-8 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r8521 10screamers/src/ScreamersD.cpp: add a main loop |
| 05:46.23 | nullpuppy | dammit. why can |
| 05:46.32 | nullpuppy | t blender not go fullscreen... |
| 05:48.25 | nullpuppy | sometimes i really despise twinview.. grr... |
| 05:49.28 | ChipX86 | :/ |
| 05:52.28 | nullpuppy | awww. 2.37a won't build either :/ |
| 05:52.33 | nullpuppy | *** glibc detected *** double free or corruption (out): 0x00002aaaad1abfb0 *** |
| 05:52.33 | nullpuppy | scons: *** [/var/tmp/portage/blender-2.37a/work/build/linux2/source/blender/makesdna/intern/dna.c] Error -6 |
| 05:57.01 | CIA-8 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r8522 10screamers/ (5 files in 2 dirs): write a MainLoop class, which calls all of its MainListeners each tick, with a configurable loop delay |
| 05:57.35 | nullpuppy | yay, ogre built/installed |
| 06:14.47 | CIA-8 | galago: 03chipx86 07glib-port * r1973 10libgalago/ (ChangeLog libgalago/galago-value.c libgalago/galago-value.h): Made GalagoValue work with GTypes, even though I plan to nuke this whole thing before all this is released. |
| 06:16.27 | CIA-8 | galago: 03chipx86 07glib-port * r1974 10libgalago/libgalago/galago-value.h: Updated docs. |
| 06:17.10 | nullpuppy | purple_cow: where is the sample stuff copied to? or does the ebuild exclude that? |
| 06:17.29 | purple_cow | i seems to copy it to the doc directory, but in a broken way... |
| 06:17.38 | nullpuppy | ok |
| 06:18.38 | ChipX86 | is there a way to freeze all signals being emitted from an object? |
| 06:18.55 | purple_cow | nullpuppy: thinking of helping with screamers? :) |
| 06:19.11 | nullpuppy | hehe, dunno, maybe :) |
| 06:20.04 | CIA-8 | galago: 03chipx86 07glib-port * r1975 10libgalago/ (3 files in 2 dirs): Make GalagoService compile. Won't work, though. Not right at least. |
| 06:21.02 | nullpuppy | hahaha, what a wonderful exception message... |
| 06:21.05 | nullpuppy | An exception has been thrown! |
| 06:21.11 | ChipX86 | heh nice |
| 06:21.35 | nullpuppy | hrm, wtf |
| 06:21.42 | nullpuppy | why is it looking in /usr/local/lib... hmm |
| 06:22.51 | purple_cow | edit plugins.cfg |
| 06:23.06 | nullpuppy | ah! ok |
| 06:23.40 | nullpuppy | better |
| 06:25.27 | nullpuppy | yay |
| 06:26.47 | CIA-8 | galago: 03chipx86 07glib-port * r1976 10libgalago/ (ChangeLog libgalago/galago-account.c): Make GalagoAccount mostly compile, except for the lack of a GALAGO_TYPE_PRESENCE macro currently. |
| 06:33.00 | CIA-8 | galago: 03chipx86 07glib-port * r1977 10libgalago/ (4 files in 2 dirs): GalagoStatus compiles. |
| 06:55.31 | ChipX86 | I imagine this whole galago/evo thing is going to end up being an uphill battle |
| 06:56.55 | nullpuppy | purple_cow: does any code or anything exist for screamers yet? and if so.. where is it? :) |
| 07:00.26 | ChipX86 | hurray |
| 07:00.36 | ChipX86 | NotZed thinks presence integration is just bloat, and isn't even aware of the bounty |
| 07:04.57 | ChipX86 | I dislike working with the evolution project |
| 07:05.17 | ChipX86 | nothing's ever easy with them |
| 07:05.26 | nullpuppy | :( |
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| 07:14.57 | purple_cow | nullpuppy: sorta kinda. not much. what there is is in navi-misc |
| 07:15.11 | nullpuppy | ok |
| 07:15.14 | nullpuppy | o |
| 07:15.29 | nullpuppy | erm.. i'll take a look at it later.. probably sometime tomorrow night... |
| 07:16.04 | nullpuppy | damn.. |
| 07:16.09 | nullpuppy | Era is awesome :) |
| 07:16.42 | purple_cow | is era mirrored somewhere faster than hyperion? :) |
| 07:16.52 | nullpuppy | hehe, dunno |
| 07:16.53 | ChipX86 | I want some |
| 07:17.01 | ChipX86 | I should have Jamie burn me some |
| 07:17.16 | ChipX86 | NotZed's enthusiasm for galago and bounties in general is just overwhelming |
| 07:17.20 | nullpuppy | i think i'm somewhere on the 2nd album, but i'm not positive.. scp does wierd things... :) |
| 07:23.25 | purple_cow | ooh, i hadn't even noticed this |
| 07:23.27 | purple_cow | OpenGL version string: 2.0.0 |
| 07:23.39 | nullpuppy | oooooh |
| 07:23.40 | nullpuppy | neato |
| 07:23.49 | purple_cow | with 7664 |
| 07:24.06 | nullpuppy | of? ogre? or nvidia drivers? or something else? |
| 07:24.31 | purple_cow | nvidia drivers |
| 07:24.35 | purple_cow | (that's from glxinfo) |
| 07:24.40 | nullpuppy | hmm |
| 07:24.53 | purple_cow | in your face, ATI! |
| 07:25.03 | nullpuppy | OpenGL version string: 2.0.0 NVIDIA 76.64 |
| 07:25.05 | nullpuppy | neat! |
| 07:25.12 | purple_cow | :) |
| 07:25.28 | nullpuppy | which card do you have btw? |
| 07:25.42 | purple_cow | nullpuppy: lemme know when you're done with hyperion. i don't want to suck up all of kerg's bandwidth, since he's probably playing wow |
| 07:25.56 | nullpuppy | hehe, ok :) |
| 07:27.58 | nullpuppy | looks like probably about an hour and a half before it'll finish (3 albums total)... |
| 07:32.49 | purple_cow | bleh |
| 07:32.53 | purple_cow | my desktop machine feels so slow now :( |
| 07:32.59 | nullpuppy | :( |
| 07:35.52 | ChipX86 | meh. I feel all unmotivated now regarding evolution |
| 07:35.57 | purple_cow | :( |
| 07:36.09 | nullpuppy | hrm |
| 07:36.23 | ChipX86 | that bounty should be changed to not be dependent on gaim, and I feel I've more than earned the bounty money at this point, but whatever |
| 07:37.16 | purple_cow | hmm, not bad |
| 07:37.23 | purple_cow | this video card has 80 simultaneous GL visuals |
| 07:38.21 | nullpuppy | which card is that? |
| 07:38.28 | purple_cow | fx 5700 |
| 07:38.42 | nullpuppy | coo |
| 07:41.05 | purple_cow | welp, time to go wash the pollen outta my hair |
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| 07:54.34 | ChipX86 | wb |
| 07:55.44 | nullpuppy | kergoth: mucho thanks for Era, this stuck is freaking awesome :) |
| 07:55.46 | kergoth | hey |
| 07:55.57 | ChipX86 | I need to get that |
| 07:55.59 | kergoth | :) thank jamie for telling us about them |
| 07:56.16 | ChipX86 | isn't she just awesome? |
| 07:58.59 | nullpuppy | hehe :) |
| 07:59.08 | nullpuppy | definately looks like it :) |
| 07:59.22 | ChipX86 | grr, tonight's sucking a lot |
| 07:59.25 | nullpuppy | :( |
| 08:00.29 | kergoth | :( |
| 08:00.44 | ChipX86 | I was doing that. Got my ass kicked. |
| 08:15.44 | CIA-8 | galago: 03chipx86 07glib-port * r1978 10libgalago/ (6 files in 2 dirs): Added back support for custom marshals, but this time through glib-genmarshal. |
| 08:21.29 | purple_cow | http://www.putfile.com/media.php?n=HydroFoam |
| 08:22.12 | CIA-8 | galago: 03chipx86 07glib-port * r1979 10libgalago/ (7 files in 2 dirs): GalagoPresence compiles. |
| 08:24.39 | ChipX86 | bed time for me. g'night |
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| 14:28.10 | darth_mall | bleh |
| 14:28.16 | darth_mall | another day dealing with crappy software that I hate |
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| 14:50.01 | darth_mall | oof |
| 14:50.07 | darth_mall | my legs are tired and sore |
| 15:01.48 | kergoth | purple_cow: is your scp throttled? |
| 15:02.20 | darth_mall | kergoth: he's asleep and probably won't be up for quite some time |
| 15:02.52 | kergoth | my connection is hosed, i think he forgot a -l |
| 15:02.57 | kergoth | heh |
| 15:03.08 | darth_mall | >< |
| 15:03.50 | darth_mall | so I'm very tempted now to order an iAudio from newegg and the iRiver car adapter |
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| 15:18.26 | darth_mall | ugh |
| 15:18.28 | darth_mall | I just want to quit |
| 15:18.30 | darth_mall | this is retarded |
| 15:33.03 | file[laptop] | meep |
| 15:33.48 | file[laptop] | my physics teacher passed me, the crazy dingo passed me |
| 15:36.39 | gonkulator | wow |
| 15:36.51 | gonkulator | my spirituality year is over |
| 15:36.54 | gonkulator | hi file[laptop] |
| 15:37.07 | darth_mall | gonkulator: does that mean you don't have to be spiritual anymore? |
| 15:38.27 | file[desk] | I did the math - there was no way I could have passed that course |
| 15:38.28 | file[desk] | but I did |
| 15:38.35 | nullpuppy | hehe |
| 15:38.35 | nullpuppy | yay |
| 15:38.42 | file[desk] | the crazy nut |
| 15:40.19 | gonkulator | file[desk]: it means I am certified as a spiritual person :) |
| 15:40.50 | gonkulator | supposedly, I am now able to speak of spiritual things |
| 15:41.22 | file[desk] | gonkulator: can you speak to my spirit too? |
| 15:41.49 | gonkulator | heh |
| 15:42.57 | file[desk] | soooo apparently I'm doing conference rooms for freenode now |
| 15:45.08 | darth_mall | gonkulator: so you now know precisely what a 'spirit' is? |
| 15:46.27 | gonkulator | darth_mall: I can describe a spirit accurately, but not precisely |
| 15:46.56 | gonkulator | if that makes sense |
| 15:47.10 | darth_mall | so... every time I ask you what a spirit is you can reproduce the same answer, but it's not necessarily 'correct'? |
| 15:48.12 | darth_mall | file[desk]: rofl |
| 15:48.12 | gonkulator | thats a rather scientific way of describing the difference between precision and accuracy |
| 15:48.20 | darth_mall | that's exactly what it is |
| 15:48.50 | darth_mall | if you have a different definition, it would probably be a good idea to tell me, so that we can understand each other |
| 15:49.27 | darth_mall | so you didn't actually know what you meant when you said that? |
| 15:49.49 | gonkulator | I think I can describe it scientifically (what a spirit is) but its gonna take a bit of time |
| 15:50.17 | darth_mall | I was asking first for your definition of the difference between accuracy and precision |
| 15:50.17 | gonkulator | and I know what it means, but you're asing for a precise definition of the distinction between accurate and precise |
| 15:50.41 | gonkulator | and I am looking more at an accurate one, which will make this conversation degrade into semantics right quick |
| 15:50.58 | darth_mall | why does everyone think semantics are a waste of time? |
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| 15:51.22 | darth_mall | if I don't understand what you're saying, or if I misinterpret a word you use, how can any conversation go anywhere |
| 15:51.25 | gonkulator | its not a waste of time, its just IMHO a less useful way of examining questions |
| 15:51.50 | gonkulator | it forces precision into something that might not need be precise |
| 15:52.25 | darth_mall | I recognize every one of those words, and yet can not make heads or tails of any of those sentences |
| 15:52.36 | gonkulator | for example, one could describe very precisely what a kiss is, but that doesn't do justice to the experience of a kiss |
| 15:53.07 | darth_mall | gonkulator: I don't want to know what a spirit is, I don't care |
| 15:53.13 | darth_mall | I was never going to ask you what a spirit is |
| 15:53.26 | darth_mall | I wanted to know if you thought you could precisely describe a spirit |
| 15:53.37 | darth_mall | then you said you could do it accurately, not precisely |
| 15:53.41 | gonkulator | ah yes |
| 15:53.57 | darth_mall | and I wanted to know how you differentiated between those two, because you seemed to take issue with the definition I gave |
| 15:54.35 | gonkulator | it was a correct definition, but not one that fit |
| 15:54.57 | gonkulator | if that makes sense |
| 15:55.10 | darth_mall | well, then I need to know what definition of accurate vs. precies *does* fit so that I can understand your claim of being able to describe a spirit accurately, but not precisely |
| 15:56.44 | gonkulator | your statement of accurate vs. precise works very well for describing the distinction in things that are smaller than the human mind, but fails for things that are larger |
| 15:56.48 | file[laptop] | no matter how brainwashed you get, I still like you |
| 15:57.07 | gonkulator | I don't yet know how to give one that works for things that are larger |
| 15:57.17 | gonkulator | thanks file[laptop] |
| 15:57.29 | darth_mall | so... when you said you could describe it accurately, but not precisely, you didn't actually know what you meant |
| 15:57.40 | darth_mall | because you can't give me a definition of accurate vs. precise in that context |
| 15:58.10 | gonkulator | I know exactly what I mean, and my inability to describe it doesn't make it any less known to me |
| 16:02.59 | CIA-8 | g2bridge: 03evan * r360 10bridge/src/gsi_callbacks.cpp: |
| 16:02.59 | CIA-8 | g2bridge: Delete some extra print statements I'm not using anymore. Going to try |
| 16:02.59 | CIA-8 | g2bridge: a rewrite of the registration code now to work around the apparent bug |
| 16:02.59 | CIA-8 | g2bridge: in G2. |
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| 16:13.34 | lurgy | lala |
| 16:13.57 | gonkulator | hi lurgy |
| 16:16.32 | lurgy | hiya gonkulator |
| 16:20.03 | kergoth | whats that deal for firefox that makes it so you dont have to sign up for sites like new york times? |
| 16:20.35 | Cae | whee. |
| 16:20.48 | Cae | debugged both coworkers' code. |
| 16:20.51 | kergoth | morning Cae |
| 16:20.51 | kergoth | fun |
| 16:20.55 | Cae | zey work now |
| 16:21.02 | darth_mall | Cae: wanna debug mine now? |
| 16:21.02 | Cae | well, it's not like I have anything else to do |
| 16:21.08 | Cae | uhm..what is ti? |
| 16:21.11 | Cae | er, it |
| 16:21.41 | darth_mall | it are a software bridge that communicates with some control software and some hardware in the plant |
| 16:21.51 | nullpuppy | kergoth: you mean bugmenot? |
| 16:21.52 | Cae | nope :) |
| 16:21.57 | darth_mall | and it has to use the really terrible API created by the company that makes the control software |
| 16:22.01 | darth_mall | and I want to strangle them |
| 16:22.02 | kergoth | nullpuppy: thats it, thanks |
| 16:22.06 | Cae | hehe |
| 16:22.10 | nullpuppy | welcome :) |
| 16:22.20 | kergoth | hrm, i cant figure out what professions to choose for my shaman in wow |
| 16:22.25 | Cae | I have a meeting in 8 minutes :) well. talk. not meeting. |
| 16:22.40 | Cae | always good to be self-sufficient |
| 16:23.00 | Cae | ie skinner/leatherworker, miner/blacksmith, miner/engineer, herbalist/alchemist.. |
| 16:23.18 | Cae | tailor is self-sufficient; cloth drops off of anything humanoid |
| 16:23.27 | kergoth | currently he's herbalist/alchemist, but he hasnt had a big need for potions to date, being able to heal, and it takes up a ton of spots in the inventory between herbs and potions, and i havent made shit for money off of it |
| 16:23.34 | kergoth | so thinking about switching gears |
| 16:23.35 | Cae | yeah |
| 16:23.49 | Cae | brb |
| 16:28.13 | Cae | actually...back later :) hehe |
| 16:28.27 | gonkulator | darn |
| 16:30.40 | gonkulator | darth_mall: I'll put a new battery in my iPod and sell it to you :-D |
| 16:30.46 | darth_mall | no thanks |
| 16:31.00 | gonkulator | or, if you still have your iPod, you can buy a 20 hour battery for it off of macsales.com |
| 16:31.18 | *** join/#tacobeam cwisty (~default@ec237-28-dhcp.colorado.edu) |
| 16:31.25 | darth_mall | uhoh... here comes trouble ^^ |
| 16:31.28 | gonkulator | wow, its a cwisty |
| 16:31.30 | cwisty | hey darth_mall |
| 16:31.33 | darth_mall | ;) |
| 16:35.46 | orchid | names |
| 16:36.01 | gonkulator | names you say? |
| 16:36.31 | orchid | heh, nvm |
| 16:36.59 | darth_mall | orchid: no! I will not nevermind! I refuse! it is entirely against my nature! |
| 16:37.10 | numist | methinks orchid meant /me first |
| 16:37.43 | numist | 0_o |
| 16:37.54 | numist | hmm.. got a suit? Id do it |
| 16:38.55 | darth_mall | just go to a zoo and skin a few monkeys |
| 16:39.01 | orchid | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:39.15 | orchid | does not work as expected :) |
| 16:39.16 | darth_mall | hehe |
| 16:39.23 | darth_mall | silly orchid and her /'s |
| 16:39.26 | lurgy | hey cwisty |
| 16:39.40 | numist | can you skin a monkey with photoshop? |
| 16:39.42 | lurgy | egad lots of people here this morning |
| 16:39.46 | darth_mall | numist: probably |
| 16:39.53 | numist | hrm |
| 16:39.57 | darth_mall | lurgy: good thing too, otherwise I'd probably be reading SGR |
| 16:40.01 | lurgy | and darth_mall |
| 16:40.02 | lurgy | heh |
| 16:40.11 | darth_mall | it's easier to look busy with irssi than with firefox |
| 16:40.19 | lurgy | yeah |
| 16:40.21 | lurgy | typing |
| 16:40.29 | numist | darth_mall: aye, esp if your theme isnt obviously irssi |
| 16:40.33 | numist | and your boss isnt too bright |
| 16:40.42 | darth_mall | well, Jody recognizes irssi |
| 16:40.44 | numist | my boss used to write moz for netscape.. he knows when Im on irssi |
| 16:40.45 | numist | :/ |
| 16:40.46 | darth_mall | but he's not the one I worry about |
| 16:40.54 | cwisty | hi lurgy |
| 16:40.58 | numist | he doesnt mind though, long as I get work done |
| 16:41.05 | darth_mall | it's the random people that walk behind me occaisionally |
| 16:41.17 | numist | heh |
| 16:41.57 | numist | see.. I work in a garage |
| 16:41.59 | lurgy | that and it's good to have your back to a wall |
| 16:42.11 | lurgy | cuz then you're in a strong position for when you need to break out the ninjer skills |
| 16:42.12 | numist | so, currently my back is to the world, as the door is open |
| 16:42.16 | numist | hehe |
| 16:42.18 | numist | kung foo |
| 16:42.59 | cwisty | what you looking at porn lurgy? |
| 16:43.09 | darth_mall | lurgy: I prefer to have my back to a wall and facing the door, but sometimes it's not an option >< |
| 16:43.12 | darth_mall | porn showers for all! |
| 16:43.14 | darth_mall | ;) |
| 16:43.16 | cwisty | oh damnit |
| 16:45.10 | darth_mall | man this album is good |
| 16:45.19 | gonkulator | darth_mall: will you tell us the story? |
| 16:45.22 | darth_mall | nope |
| 16:45.25 | darth_mall | not much of a story |
| 16:45.32 | darth_mall | kind of a you-had-to-be-there thing, IMO |
| 16:45.35 | gonkulator | oh |
| 16:45.48 | gonkulator | morning ChipX86 |
| 16:45.51 | darth_mall | someone might have it in their logs somehwere, who knows |
| 16:45.52 | ChipX86 | I woke up to a bird in my living room |
| 16:45.54 | ChipX86 | hey gonkulator |
| 16:46.02 | darth_mall | ChipX86: was it cute? or disease-ridden? |
| 16:46.10 | gonkulator | ChipX86: thats better than an elephant next to you |
| 16:46.17 | cwisty | Oh I bet I have it in my logs |
| 16:46.25 | lurgy | cwisty: yeah, i do precious little else here at spacegrant |
| 16:46.31 | ChipX86 | very cute |
| 16:46.38 | cwisty | haha |
| 16:46.40 | ChipX86 | tiny little thing. I love these birds. They let you get real close to them |
| 16:46.40 | cwisty | nice lurgy |
| 16:46.41 | darth_mall | lurgy: precious little else besides porn? |
| 16:46.56 | lurgy | 'course |
| 16:47.04 | darth_mall | damn, wish I'd thought of that while I worked there >< |
| 16:47.10 | ChipX86 | porn at work is always a good idea |
| 16:47.18 | darth_mall | ChipX86: yes! except at a gov't lab... |
| 16:47.19 | lurgy | if only we had showers here |
| 16:47.23 | darth_mall | they get really cranky about that for some reason |
| 16:47.25 | cwisty | oh man |
| 16:47.25 | darth_mall | we have showers! |
| 16:47.28 | lurgy | then the experience could be complete |
| 16:47.31 | cwisty | there are showers in the e-center |
| 16:47.34 | ChipX86 | darth_mall: I can't imagine why |
| 16:47.53 | lurgy | hey there are |
| 16:47.56 | lurgy | not up here |
| 16:47.56 | darth_mall | we have those one showers that make the chemcials go away when you try and use them as hand lotion or something |
| 16:47.59 | lurgy | but down there |
| 16:48.08 | darth_mall | in all the labs |
| 16:48.20 | lurgy | but there are real showers too |
| 16:48.23 | darth_mall | oooh... and we've got a couple pretty hefty hoses in the plant |
| 16:48.25 | ChipX86 | ahh he's back |
| 16:48.33 | lurgy | in the chemE wing bathrooms |
| 16:48.35 | ChipX86 | next to my couch |
| 16:48.38 | darth_mall | Jody and I used 'em to hose down some vomit a few weeks ago... hehe |
| 16:48.41 | lurgy | er, those ones near there anyhow |
| 16:49.17 | ChipX86 | wonder what he thinks is i nhere |
| 16:49.30 | darth_mall | hehe |
| 16:49.35 | cwisty | sorry boys |
| 16:49.38 | darth_mall | heh |
| 16:49.47 | cwisty | it was just a comma omission |
| 16:49.50 | darth_mall | it was a long time ago |
| 16:49.58 | darth_mall | at least, it seems like a long time ago |
| 16:50.02 | darth_mall | when was that? last x-mas? |
| 16:50.04 | cwisty | yeah |
| 16:50.06 | lurgy | heh |
| 16:50.09 | cwisty | um |
| 16:50.11 | cwisty | maybe |
| 16:50.14 | cwisty | dunno when |
| 16:50.20 | darth_mall | I remember it was vacation, because I was at my parents' house |
| 16:50.24 | cwisty | probably not that long ago |
| 16:50.32 | cwisty | oh well then nevermind |
| 16:50.32 | lurgy | spring break? |
| 16:50.38 | darth_mall | might have been |
| 16:50.41 | cwisty | yeah |
| 16:50.46 | cwisty | that sounds more liek it |
| 16:50.49 | cwisty | it was this semester |
| 16:51.02 | darth_mall | I thought it was longer than that, but my ability to judge time is not so ninj4 as some of my other abilities |
| 16:51.03 | lurgy | sounds about right |
| 16:51.31 | cwisty | OK so story for those of you who are lost, since it really isn't that exciting . . . |
| 16:51.33 | lurgy | ooh mail from james burkert |
| 16:51.47 | darth_mall | uhoh... that can only mean trouble |
| 16:51.49 | cwisty | I was signing off one night and said I was going to go watch porn shower and sleep |
| 16:51.49 | lurgy | yeah.. |
| 16:51.53 | darth_mall | he probably wants you to do some work or something |
| 16:51.57 | cwisty | missed the comma between porn and shower |
| 16:52.04 | cwisty | therefore the porn shower was born |
| 16:52.09 | darth_mall | cwisty: did you ever get that package that was delivered to our place? |
| 16:52.24 | lurgy | last week sometime |
| 16:52.26 | cwisty | yes |
| 16:52.26 | darth_mall | that's what I figgered |
| 16:52.29 | cwisty | I got the package |
| 16:52.31 | cwisty | thanks |
| 16:52.37 | lurgy | yay, apparently we're going to the sink this week |
| 16:52.57 | cwisty | you have to take me for a ride in your car darth_mall |
| 16:53.11 | numist | the tercel? |
| 16:53.26 | darth_mall | numist: no, I got my Echo a few days ago |
| 16:53.31 | cwisty | new car |
| 16:53.32 | numist | nice |
| 16:53.46 | darth_mall | lurgy: can you even find those outside of a scrap yard? |
| 16:53.47 | numist | yeah, get a yugo or a citroen |
| 16:54.04 | lurgy | marvels of french and yugoslavian engineering |
| 16:54.11 | lurgy | and not in that order |
| 16:54.20 | darth_mall | citroen's aren't that bad, are they? |
| 16:54.28 | darth_mall | I can't recall ever driving one, but who knows |
| 16:54.43 | numist | theyre pretty good, but you cant really find them in this country |
| 16:54.48 | lurgy | heh |
| 16:55.47 | lurgy | heavan is where the english are the bankers, the french are the lovers, the italians are the cooks and the swiss are the engineers |
| 16:56.06 | lurgy | hell is where the english are the cooks, the french are the engineers, the swiss are the lovers and the italians are the bankers |
| 16:56.15 | lurgy | s/heavan/heaven/ |
| 16:56.42 | cwisty | are swiss bad lovers? |
| 16:56.53 | gonkulator | by the numbers |
| 16:56.57 | lurgy | heh |
| 16:57.06 | file[laptop] | lurgy: what am I? |
| 16:57.13 | darth_mall | s/swiss/germans |
| 16:57.16 | lurgy | well, they're mostly accountants and engineers :P |
| 16:57.19 | darth_mall | that's how I always heard it |
| 16:57.27 | lurgy | darth_mall: but the swiss are more so ;) |
| 16:57.32 | cwisty | so engineers are bad lovers? |
| 16:57.34 | gonkulator | and lurgy hates the swiss |
| 16:57.48 | lurgy | cwisty: erm.. |
| 16:57.57 | cwisty | hehe |
| 16:58.01 | cwisty | careful how you answer that lurgy |
| 16:58.07 | nullpuppy | slashdot would say otherwise ... :) |
| 16:58.10 | cwisty | hehe |
| 16:58.17 | darth_mall | I think I'd always heard the french were cooks, italians were lovers, and germans were engineers in heaven |
| 16:58.20 | ChipX86 | my bird left :( |
| 16:58.24 | cwisty | lu: and removes foot from mouth |
| 16:58.35 | lurgy | darth_mall: i think the french and the italians are pretty interchangeable there |
| 16:58.36 | cwisty | well the italians are fantastic lovers |
| 16:58.40 | cwisty | so . . . |
| 16:58.59 | lurgy | cwisty: only the males |
| 16:59.03 | darth_mall | and the Irish are fantastic drinkers and rowdy mother f*ckers! |
| 16:59.07 | numist | yeah |
| 16:59.12 | darth_mall | yay Ireland |
| 16:59.20 | numist | yay eire |
| 16:59.22 | nullpuppy | yay |
| 16:59.28 | cwisty | hahaha |
| 16:59.34 | nullpuppy | kergoth: hows youre bandwidth? |
| 16:59.34 | ChipX86 | ughhhh, this guy we have who never shows up to work and writes sloppy code just sent in a batch of code for review, completely ignored all coding standards, and is now telling me he won't follow them |
| 16:59.38 | cwisty | the female italians are terrible lovers? |
| 16:59.45 | lurgy | hehe |
| 16:59.58 | darth_mall | who here knows why Sicilian men grow full, black beards? |
| 17:00.01 | lurgy | no, just the male engineers are bad lovers |
| 17:00.05 | cwisty | I'm lost |
| 17:00.10 | cwisty | oh HOT |
| 17:00.12 | kergoth | nullpuppy: its been lagging to hell all morning, but i think its purple_cow's scp. i think he forgot to throttle |
| 17:00.15 | lurgy | that's good, i think i broke my shovel anyways |
| 17:00.16 | cwisty | then I"m OK |
| 17:00.18 | cwisty | no wait |
| 17:00.24 | lurgy | hehe |
| 17:00.32 | nullpuppy | kergoth: ok, so it's still laggin bad then? /me will wait to grab ghostbusters then |
| 17:00.38 | cwisty | well that's not true |
| 17:00.44 | cwisty | hmmmm |
| 17:00.47 | lurgy | yay |
| 17:00.57 | lurgy | hmmm |
| 17:01.29 | cwisty | although all the engineers I've known to be good lovers lead double lives majoring in something else as well |
| 17:01.33 | cwisty | so you may be onto something |
| 17:01.47 | darth_mall | dm? |
| 17:01.49 | darth_mall | me? |
| 17:01.50 | darth_mall | a dork? |
| 17:01.54 | cwisty | hehe |
| 17:01.55 | cwisty | never |
| 17:02.12 | darth_mall | see... I read "dm" and immediately thought "Dungeon Master" |
| 17:02.16 | darth_mall | so I probably am a dork |
| 17:02.22 | numist | ... |
| 17:02.39 | cwisty | haha |
| 17:02.41 | cwisty | oh man |
| 17:02.51 | lurgy | hehe |
| 17:02.54 | lurgy | hmm, something else.. |
| 17:03.23 | cwisty | haha |
| 17:03.45 | nullpuppy | lol |
| 17:03.48 | lurgy | hot |
| 17:03.56 | ChipX86 | haha |
| 17:04.59 | darth_mall | best. DK. cover. evar! |
| 17:05.46 | darth_mall | I mean, that's at least 50% of any rpg: innuendos |
| 17:05.47 | ChipX86 | you should have heard our first game of D&D |
| 17:06.07 | lurgy | once someone decided i should be a dm |
| 17:06.10 | lurgy | that sure never happened again |
| 17:06.15 | gonkulator | rofl |
| 17:06.20 | numist | dead alewives? |
| 17:06.22 | ChipX86 | this one girl (who I have to say was very hot) kept making very sexual-sounding but also RP-sounding comments toward me |
| 17:06.32 | lurgy | not after finding big bird in a mcdonalds with a magical garbage bag |
| 17:06.34 | numist | nice |
| 17:07.16 | ChipX86 | she's say how my staff (that I was equipped with) was really hard and strong, and asked what I was going to do with it |
| 17:07.32 | cwisty | nicve |
| 17:07.46 | nullpuppy | ChipX86: lol |
| 17:07.49 | numist | woot! |
| 17:08.14 | numist | galstaff.. woot! |
| 17:08.44 | numist | IM GONNA GET DRUNK!! Are there any GIRLS there? cuz if there ARE, I wanna DO them! |
| 17:08.45 | darth_mall | I am galstaff, sorcerer of light |
| 17:08.51 | darth_mall | then why'd you have to cast magic missile? |
| 17:08.52 | darth_mall | heheh |
| 17:08.54 | darth_mall | hehehehe |
| 17:08.55 | numist | then why did you cast mag- |
| 17:08.56 | darth_mall | ^^ |
| 17:08.57 | numist | hehehe |
| 17:09.00 | ChipX86 | :) |
| 17:09.17 | ChipX86 | ok, so my package should be waiting for me, but it probably won't be here before I leave |
| 17:09.34 | numist | oh, ibm calleth |
| 17:09.41 | nullpuppy | i have the video somewhere... |
| 17:09.43 | nullpuppy | i should dig it up again |
| 17:10.15 | ChipX86 | so, the #gnome-women crowd are absolutely insane |
| 17:10.25 | cwisty | why? |
| 17:10.51 | ChipX86 | one girl was trying to get us all to join the mailing list, and said there's a reward if you do. Another girl said? "A reward? A date with ChipX86?!" |
| 17:10.53 | darth_mall | numist: I have them on cd |
| 17:10.53 | cwisty | damnit darth_mall |
| 17:11.00 | darth_mall | cwisty: what? |
| 17:11.02 | ChipX86 | and they keep talking about wanting pics of me in a dress or skirt |
| 17:11.16 | darth_mall | numist: I'm sure I've played them for him, just not a lot |
| 17:11.20 | ChipX86 | Jamie just eggs them on |
| 17:11.39 | numist | darth_mall: I only have 2.. are there more? |
| 17:11.48 | cwisty | darth_mall nothing |
| 17:12.02 | darth_mall | numist: I only know of D&D and AD&D |
| 17:12.05 | darth_mall | there could be more |
| 17:12.07 | numist | woot,. my lappy is still covered by warranty!!! |
| 17:12.11 | darth_mall | yay warranty |
| 17:12.16 | numist | darth_mall: I only have those two, kk |
| 17:12.25 | ChipX86 | darth_mall: yay, Advanced Dungeons & Dragons insurance |
| 17:12.26 | nullpuppy | what are you talking about? |
| 17:12.33 | numist | nullpuppy: dead alewives |
| 17:12.34 | ChipX86 | I was going to get that but realized I wouldn't be playing itmuch |
| 17:12.38 | nullpuppy | ah |
| 17:12.40 | darth_mall | nullpuppy: the D&D skits by Dead Alewifes |
| 17:12.47 | nullpuppy | ok |
| 17:12.47 | numist | wifes or wives? |
| 17:12.56 | darth_mall | I was pretty sure it was wifes |
| 17:13.02 | darth_mall | cuz I remember thinking that was odd |
| 17:13.03 | cwisty | wives |
| 17:13.05 | darth_mall | but I could be wrong |
| 17:13.30 | ChipX86 | wives |
| 17:13.34 | ChipX86 | nullpuppy: really? :( |
| 17:13.38 | nullpuppy | yeah |
| 17:13.40 | ChipX86 | it's so good |
| 17:13.48 | ChipX86 | hmm, should I work from home, or home from work |
| 17:16.48 | ChipX86 | meh I hsould go in to work |
| 17:16.53 | numist | yeah, you should |
| 17:16.56 | ChipX86 | especially since the VPN is so slow today |
| 17:17.28 | numist | roadrunner completely died yesterday in sd |
| 17:17.47 | numist | one of their primary switches/routers went out |
| 17:18.02 | ChipX86 | :( |
| 17:18.03 | numist | then the others fell like dominoes as the increased traffic was too mcuh |
| 17:18.11 | numist | I got a lot done yesterday, though |
| 17:18.16 | ChipX86 | that's good |
| 17:18.17 | numist | gave me time to be productive :/ |
| 17:18.18 | nullpuppy | is the dead alewives stuff only 2? |
| 17:18.25 | numist | I believe so |
| 17:18.29 | nullpuppy | l |
| 17:18.31 | nullpuppy | err k |
| 17:19.35 | ChipX86 | nullpuppy: do you believe in the Giant Spaghetti Monster? |
| 17:19.53 | CIA-8 | g2bridge: 03evan * r361 10bridge/src/ (gsi_callbacks.cpp gsi_var.cpp): |
| 17:19.53 | CIA-8 | g2bridge: - Added a default constructor to the GSI_Var class |
| 17:19.53 | CIA-8 | g2bridge: - Commented out the code in the registration callback that uses the gsi_attr of the variable |
| 17:19.53 | CIA-8 | g2bridge: - Registration function creates an empty variable and puts it in the scheduler, the actual |
| 17:19.53 | CIA-8 | g2bridge: information will be added in the get_data callback. |
| 17:20.22 | ChipX86 | er, numist, rather, but nullpuppy too |
| 17:20.37 | numist | yes, I go to sleep in fear every night... |
| 17:20.45 | numist | woot |
| 17:20.47 | nullpuppy | Giant Spaghetti Monster? |
| 17:20.55 | ChipX86 | http://www.venganza.org/ |
| 17:21.00 | lurgy | teehee |
| 17:21.02 | lurgy | i love that site |
| 17:21.06 | ChipX86 | latest creationism theory to be taught in classes |
| 17:21.14 | lurgy | ^_^ |
| 17:21.14 | ChipX86 | explains global warming too |
| 17:21.18 | lurgy | yep |
| 17:21.20 | ChipX86 | "As you can see, there is a statistically significant inverse relationship between pirates and global temperature." |
| 17:21.20 | lurgy | BISKETTI! |
| 17:21.33 | lurgy | pirates explain a lot when you think about it |
| 17:21.34 | nullpuppy | ahahaha, awesome |
| 17:21.36 | ChipX86 | yep |
| 17:21.41 | ChipX86 | this is a *great* read |
| 17:21.46 | ChipX86 | and the picture at the bottom is wonderful |
| 17:21.56 | ChipX86 | I want the "I was touched by His Noodly Appendage" t-shirt |
| 17:22.07 | nullpuppy | haha |
| 17:22.42 | ChipX86 | ooh, a mug |
| 17:22.46 | ChipX86 | http://www.cafepress.com/venganza.24877527 |
| 17:22.50 | numist | ooh |
| 17:23.03 | ChipX86 | ok, to work I go. bbl |
| 17:23.39 | nullpuppy | haha |
| 17:30.50 | darth_mall | aw... everyone left me all of a sudden |
| 17:43.47 | darth_mall | hrm... |
| 17:43.52 | darth_mall | hrm hrm hrm... |
| 17:46.42 | numist | I needa shave |
| 17:46.53 | numist | but I woke up and was out the door in 3 minutes this morning |
| 17:50.58 | darth_mall | yay 3 |
| 17:51.03 | darth_mall | that's a good round number |
| 17:51.32 | CIA-8 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10bzflag/ (include/bzfsAPI.h src/bzfs/bzfs.cxx src/bzfs/bzfsAPI.cxx): |
| 17:51.33 | CIA-8 | BZFlag: don't auto check for python, it dosn't work anway |
| 17:51.33 | CIA-8 | BZFlag: change kill API function to take some more paramaters |
| 17:51.33 | CIA-8 | BZFlag: bump api version |
| 17:53.09 | numist | prime, even |
| 17:54.13 | darth_mall | indeed |
| 17:56.18 | numist | sweet, I think I just scored a sparcstation |
| 17:56.34 | CIA-8 | g2bridge: 03evan * r362 10bridge/src/gsi_var.h: |
| 17:56.34 | CIA-8 | g2bridge: Already had an empty default constructor for the GSI_Var, so delete that and use the one I just implemented. |
| 17:56.34 | CIA-8 | g2bridge: Make the point_name and variation members public. |
| 17:57.41 | CIA-8 | g2bridge: 03evan * r363 10bridge/src/gsi_callbacks.cpp: In the get_data function ensure that the variable has been initialized. If not, do so. |
| 18:00.57 | CIA-8 | g2bridge: 03evan * r364 10bridge/src/gsi_var.h: |
| 18:00.57 | CIA-8 | g2bridge: - Change point_name from a string to a char* |
| 18:00.57 | CIA-8 | g2bridge: - free() point_name in the destructor |
| 18:00.57 | CIA-8 | g2bridge: - ws |
| 18:03.08 | CIA-8 | g2bridge: 03evan * r365 10bridge/src/gsi_var.h: Changed my mind. point_name needs to stay a std::string. |
| 18:10.02 | JeffM2501 | purple_cow, navi svn is freaking out again |
| 18:13.09 | darth_mall | yay freaking out! |
| 18:15.01 | numist | ChipX86: wheres the piccie of darth tater? |
| 18:22.18 | *** join/#tacobeam luqui (~luqui@69.158.247.207) |
| 18:25.47 | ChipX86 | one sec |
| 18:26.06 | ChipX86 | http://osiris.chipx86.com/photos/vmware/outside/ |
| 18:27.00 | *** join/#tacobeam luqui_ (~luqui@206.47.164.3) |
| 18:29.59 | luqui_ | hello from toronto |
| 18:30.18 | darth_mall | hey luqui_ |
| 18:30.21 | darth_mall | whatcha doin' up there? |
| 18:30.22 | numist | hellooooo |
| 18:30.28 | luqui_ | ack, what happened to my nick |
| 18:30.29 | numist | Ill be in toronto in 5 days, whaddya know |
| 18:30.35 | numist | someones stolen you |
| 18:30.43 | luqui_ | anyway, perl6 hackathon |
| 18:30.49 | numist | nice |
| 18:31.01 | luqui_ | i'm sitting across the room from larry wall :-) |
| 18:32.05 | luqui_ | numist, what are you doing in 5 days? |
| 18:32.13 | numist | luqui_: sister is gradumacating |
| 18:32.25 | luqui_ | ah |
| 18:32.36 | luqui_ | you should come up to the perl conference |
| 18:32.37 | numist | had to stay the whole week though... damn airlines |
| 18:32.44 | numist | whats its dates? |
| 18:32.50 | numist | and.. I dont program perl actively :X |
| 18:33.17 | darth_mall | numist: as it should be |
| 18:33.25 | numist | ... |
| 18:33.38 | numist | *shrug* I dont know python at all, so I do feel quite a bit behind in this channel |
| 18:33.40 | luqui_ | heh... |
| 18:33.51 | ChipX86 | I don't use python much at all |
| 18:33.51 | luqui_ | hey! |
| 18:33.55 | ChipX86 | I'm very much a newbie |
| 18:33.55 | darth_mall | since I've had some bad experiences ;) |
| 18:34.04 | luqui_ | numist, what do you hack? |
| 18:34.22 | ChipX86 | luqui_: what doesn't he hack? |
| 18:34.29 | ChipX86 | you name it, he's hacked it |
| 18:34.36 | darth_mall | then I got into C# because of purple_cow |
| 18:34.38 | ChipX86 | he is, afterall, numist |
| 18:34.48 | darth_mall | unfortunately, I find myself spending most of my time writing in C++ |
| 18:35.18 | numist | luqui_: [v]C[|++|#], php, perl(ish), Java[|2EE|Script], and [MS|My|PG]SQL, for the most part |
| 18:35.38 | numist | as far as what do I actually *hack*.. well I love making languages do things that they arent commonly used for |
| 18:35.42 | luqui_ | basically like they said |
| 18:36.00 | luqui_ | numist, sweeet, I like that too |
| 18:36.06 | luqui_ | Perl for game programming, for instance ;-) |
| 18:36.22 | numist | however, I continually compare myself to scanline, chip, etc and feel woefully insignificant |
| 18:36.22 | kergoth | you are a sick, sick man |
| 18:36.35 | ChipX86 | numist: pfft |
| 18:36.38 | darth_mall | numist: I stoped comparing myself a long time ago |
| 18:36.44 | numist | well, I have to learn that then |
| 18:36.57 | numist | I keep seeing it and thinking "well why cant I do that *RIGHT NOW*?" |
| 18:36.57 | darth_mall | since there is so much sucking in this industry |
| 18:37.00 | ChipX86 | that's silly. Never compare yourself to me. It's always depressing, and not in the flattering way |
| 18:37.09 | darth_mall | yep |
| 18:37.17 | darth_mall | I mean really, who would want your life? |
| 18:37.21 | ChipX86 | exactly |
| 18:37.30 | numist | like I discovered the gamecube64 project yesterday.. *sigh* |
| 18:37.32 | darth_mall | what with your fun, high-paying job, beautiful girlfriend, harem... |
| 18:37.33 | ChipX86 | there's birds making homes in my apartment and all kinds of weird things |
| 18:37.36 | darth_mall | sounds awful to me |
| 18:37.44 | numist | I have a beautiful girlfriend.. 1/3 isnt bad |
| 18:37.54 | numist | right? |
| 18:37.56 | ChipX86 | numist: do you want my bird? |
| 18:37.59 | darth_mall | numist: if I had to pick one of those 3, it would probably be that one |
| 18:38.18 | ChipX86 | he's not really mine, per se, but he seems to be moving in |
| 18:38.22 | numist | darth_mall: aye, Ive had 3 years to live the unlonely life and actually get things done without worry like that |
| 18:38.25 | darth_mall | ChipX86: lol |
| 18:38.28 | numist | ChipX86: actually INTO your house? |
| 18:38.42 | ChipX86 | numist: for a week or two, he's been on my balcony staring into my house |
| 18:38.44 | darth_mall | over and over |
| 18:38.49 | numist | oh dear |
| 18:38.50 | darth_mall | in the face and crotch |
| 18:38.53 | ChipX86 | this morning I woke up and he was just hopping around, looking at everything |
| 18:38.53 | numist | ChipX86: lock the door |
| 18:39.07 | ChipX86 | he flew out when I came in, but then he came back in later and started chirping at me cutely |
| 18:39.08 | numist | he's a spook, chippy... working for M$ |
| 18:39.13 | numist | oh dear |
| 18:39.13 | ChipX86 | numist: it's a very cute bird :) |
| 18:39.16 | ChipX86 | tiny thing |
| 18:39.19 | numist | hehe |
| 18:39.21 | ChipX86 | these birds are awesome. They let you get real close to them |
| 18:39.28 | numist | ... |
| 18:39.28 | ChipX86 | and they're just so cute! |
| 18:39.40 | ChipX86 | now I need to buy bird feed |
| 18:40.18 | file[laptop] | ChipX86 has a new pet! |
| 18:40.23 | ChipX86 | hurray! |
| 18:41.07 | numist | ... |
| 18:41.20 | ChipX86 | nooooo |
| 18:41.59 | hardwire | thats just terrible |
| 18:42.02 | file[laptop] | numist: I don't approve of that! |
| 18:42.07 | hardwire | file[laptop]: say yay to me |
| 18:42.29 | file[laptop] | hardwire: yay |
| 18:42.32 | hardwire | thanks. |
| 18:42.42 | hardwire | you helped get me into asterisk.. so you deserve a yay too |
| 18:42.58 | hardwire | but I just landed a contract converting a call center to voip |
| 18:43.04 | file[laptop] | further yay |
| 18:43.07 | numist | nice |
| 18:43.08 | hardwire | after a month of them bouncing calls through loaner equipment |
| 18:43.15 | hardwire | you know what I hate |
| 18:43.17 | hardwire | D4/AMI |
| 18:43.23 | hardwire | but other than that.. yay.. |
| 18:43.39 | hardwire | we tested their automated dialer.. and all their t1 channel banks on a little ITX board |
| 18:43.41 | file[laptop] | D4/AMI? why does that sound familiar |
| 18:43.58 | hardwire | and it handled it all just fine.. so now I get to like build them some 2.4ghz P4's with quad pri cards |
| 18:44.04 | hardwire | file[desk]: line coding/framing for t1's |
| 18:44.06 | hardwire | SuperFraming |
| 18:44.09 | file[laptop] | aha |
| 18:44.17 | file[laptop] | it also reminded of a dialogic model number |
| 18:44.58 | file[laptop] | further yay for me because I'm graduating in a few hours |
| 18:45.06 | ChipX86 | yay |
| 18:45.07 | numist | wow, exciting times |
| 18:45.10 | hardwire | yay! |
| 18:45.18 | ChipX86 | and I'm getting married! |
| 18:45.24 | hardwire | you are? |
| 18:45.26 | ChipX86 | no :( |
| 18:45.27 | file[laptop] | ChipX86: to the bird? |
| 18:45.29 | ChipX86 | I just wanted a yay |
| 18:45.37 | file[laptop] | no yay for you |
| 18:45.41 | ChipX86 | I have a pet bird! |
| 18:45.50 | file[laptop] | okay, that deserves a yay... yay! |
| 18:46.02 | numist | yay! |
| 18:46.38 | file[laptop] | hardwire: echo can cards out for the quad cards... |
| 18:46.59 | hardwire | say that again? |
| 18:47.23 | file[laptop] | http://www.digium.com/index.php?menu=press/pr_2gen_firm |
| 18:47.26 | numist | ok, time to go home to meet the guy who might rent my place |
| 18:47.45 | file[laptop] | http://www.digium.com/index.php?menu=product_detail&category=hardware&product=TE411P |
| 18:47.57 | hardwire | new echo cancelling |
| 18:48.13 | hardwire | well thats what I want |
| 18:48.13 | darth_mall | huh? |
| 18:48.28 | darth_mall | hardwire: you have confused and disoriented me |
| 18:48.30 | file[laptop] | no more software cancelling ;) |
| 18:48.38 | hardwire | darth_mall: indeed |
| 18:48.43 | hardwire | file[laptop]: fine by me |
| 18:48.53 | hardwire | now give them onboard gsm dsp's and I will be happy |
| 18:48.57 | file[laptop] | hehe |
| 18:49.25 | hardwire | brb.. going to do some feedback tests |
| 18:49.36 | hardwire | t1 group 1 will call group 2 via teliax to test 24 channels of la la la |
| 18:49.49 | file[laptop] | fun |
| 18:50.04 | hardwire | file[laptop]: I just wish I was there.. so I could listen to 12 people talk to themselves. |
| 18:50.14 | file[laptop] | lol |
| 18:50.23 | file[laptop] | 2 hours 10 minutes... |
| 18:54.30 | darth_mall | ARG! |
| 18:54.31 | darth_mall | I give up |
| 18:54.53 | darth_mall | how the hell am I supposed to make this work when the software is not up to date and the documents for the software are even older |
| 18:55.11 | file[laptop] | darth_mall: yell at people? |
| 18:55.47 | darth_mall | no wonder the documents have been wrong so much |
| 18:55.55 | darth_mall | they weren't documents for the version we were using |
| 18:56.12 | file[laptop] | lol |
| 19:10.33 | hardwire | taco |
| 19:10.52 | ChipX86 | it's fun watching people work remotely when they forget to turn off their monitor |
| 19:12.52 | numist | whee |
| 19:41.17 | lurgy | it's a good thing python has reduce() to make it less tempting to write readable code.... |
| 19:43.35 | numist | ... |
| 19:43.47 | numist | where it reduces your brain to a jibbling mess? |
| 19:44.08 | *** join/#tacobeam SecretMethod70 (~SecretMet@c-67-173-67-244.hsd1.il.comcast.net) |
| 19:44.51 | TD | numist: that's what metaclasses are for |
| 19:45.05 | numist | mmm |
| 19:53.01 | hardwire | my office is a pigsty |
| 19:53.06 | darth_mall | hardwire: cool |
| 19:53.13 | darth_mall | pigs are neat |
| 19:53.16 | darth_mall | and oinky |
| 19:53.33 | hardwire | evrey day somebody comes in and say.. man.. this place is a dump |
| 19:53.41 | darth_mall | heh |
| 19:53.43 | hardwire | so.. I go talk to my boss and I say.. hey.. leave me alone so I can clean my office |
| 19:53.45 | hardwire | and he says.. ok |
| 19:53.51 | darth_mall | lol |
| 19:53.55 | hardwire | and then 15 minutes later I get to do something urgent for the rest of the day |
| 19:54.04 | hardwire | because the boss can't hold up to his word |
| 19:54.05 | hardwire | heh |
| 19:54.22 | hardwire | LAME MUCH?! |
| 19:54.48 | Cae | hehe |
| 19:56.57 | hardwire | to top it all off |
| 19:57.05 | hardwire | I have 4 boxes the size of my desk showing up today |
| 19:57.23 | hardwire | I are not amused. |
| 19:57.23 | Cae | LOL |
| 19:57.36 | hardwire | the legs on my desk .. are breaking as well |
| 20:12.38 | Cae | http://www.cnn.com/2005/LAW/06/23/scotus.property.ap/index.html |
| 20:12.45 | Cae | http://www.cnn.com/2005/POLITICS/06/23/rove.speech.ap/index.html |
| 20:13.10 | CIA-8 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10bzflag/src/bzfs/bzfsAPI.cxx: don't use a char* when looking for a std::string in a map, they arn't the same thing. |
| 20:20.24 | CIA-8 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10bzflag/plugins/RogueGenocide/ (RogueGenocide.def RogueGenocide.sln RogueGenocide.vcproj): if you are gonna do it, then go whole hog |
| 20:20.55 | hardwire | ok |
| 20:21.07 | hardwire | its 3/4 the size of my desk |
| 20:21.46 | CIA-8 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10bzflag/plugins/vc71/plugins.sln: add the new geno plugin to the main plugin build project |
| 20:23.18 | hardwire | file[laptop]: I will need a funky mainboard to use that t1 card |
| 20:28.42 | *** join/#tacobeam purple_cow (~jupiter@navi.cx) |
| 20:30.25 | CIA-8 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10bzflag/src/bzfs/ (bzfsAPI.cxx bzfsPlugins.cxx): |
| 20:30.25 | CIA-8 | BZFlag: admin and verified in API were screwed up |
| 20:30.25 | CIA-8 | BZFlag: /listplugins is for everyone not just admins |
| 20:31.49 | purple_cow | JeffM2501: svn should be fixed |
| 20:32.16 | JeffM2501 | purple_cow, danke |
| 20:32.25 | darth_mall | purple_cow: is navi-misc still on navi or did it get moved |
| 20:33.29 | JeffM2501 | tomcrypt???? |
| 20:33.35 | JeffM2501 | wtf is that? |
| 20:34.21 | *** join/#tacobeam luqui (~luqui@206.47.164.3) |
| 20:34.38 | purple_cow | darth_mall: it's on navi |
| 20:34.42 | purple_cow | JeffM2501: used by tnl |
| 20:35.07 | JeffM2501 | and you didn't include tehre VC files? |
| 20:35.27 | JeffM2501 | is that the CVS TNL? |
| 20:35.28 | purple_cow | JeffM2501: i figured their VC files would be broken if i just copied them over, since i rearranged things |
| 20:35.31 | JeffM2501 | or one of there snapshots? |
| 20:35.44 | purple_cow | JeffM2501: it's 1.5.0, hacked up so that it'll actually compile |
| 20:35.49 | JeffM2501 | purple_cow, they would be, but the'd giuve me a starting point |
| 20:35.51 | JeffM2501 | purple_cow, joy |
| 20:36.04 | JeffM2501 | well, maybe it'll just build as a lib |
| 20:36.44 | purple_cow | it probably would have built fine with vc++, but gcc has gotten stricter in the last few releases |
| 20:36.56 | JeffM2501 | VC7 has goten stricter too |
| 20:38.22 | purple_cow | tnl CVS won't build at all |
| 20:38.36 | JeffM2501 | joy |
| 20:38.47 | purple_cow | they had fixed a couple of the problems I hacked around in this version, but they upgraded to a newer tomcrypt without including some important files |
| 20:39.27 | JeffM2501 | why are these guys not instilling me with confidence |
| 20:39.51 | hardwire | ok... 24port PoE switches rule |
| 20:39.59 | purple_cow | that's the feeling i was having |
| 20:40.10 | JeffM2501 | are you building tomcrypt as it's own lib? or just building them all together? |
| 20:40.29 | purple_cow | i've got it building as it's own lib, but then linking in after tnl to resolve those symbols |
| 20:40.48 | JeffM2501 | I'm gonna see if I can't just build it all into tnl.lib |
| 20:40.56 | purple_cow | it's just a static lib, so once everything is built, noone should care |
| 20:40.58 | ChipX86 | yay back from lunch |
| 20:42.52 | ChipX86 | so we decided that since everything's so crowded on Wednesdays with lunch and all, we're going to bring blankets and have picnics by the pond |
| 20:44.10 | JeffM2501 | tnl - 56 error(s), 207 warning(s) |
| 20:44.12 | JeffM2501 | joy |
| 20:44.19 | purple_cow | cool |
| 20:44.22 | *** join/#tacobeam luqui (~luqui@206.47.164.3) |
| 20:44.45 | JeffM2501 | ohh no |
| 20:44.51 | JeffM2501 | do they include C files in other C files? |
| 20:46.05 | JeffM2501 | eww they do |
| 20:46.07 | purple_cow | in TNL? don't think so |
| 20:46.14 | purple_cow | in tomcrypt, i fixed a few of those, might be more lurking |
| 20:46.29 | JeffM2501 | there were 3 in tomcrypt |
| 20:46.42 | JeffM2501 | who ever invented that shoudl be SHOT |
| 20:46.44 | purple_cow | what files? |
| 20:47.00 | JeffM2501 | ecc_sys.c |
| 20:47.04 | JeffM2501 | dh_sys.c |
| 20:47.19 | JeffM2501 | and sha224.c |
| 20:47.42 | purple_cow | ok, i'll fix |
| 20:47.48 | JeffM2501 | k |
| 20:47.57 | JeffM2501 | I just removed the included files from my build |
| 20:48.07 | JeffM2501 | so if the "magicaly" disapear, I won't mind :) |
| 20:48.15 | JeffM2501 | down to warnings now |
| 20:48.22 | purple_cow | well, i'm changing to .h |
| 20:48.28 | JeffM2501 | ok |
| 20:48.36 | JeffM2501 | it'll still work |
| 20:49.00 | JeffM2501 | gotta pull the DLL linkage as well |
| 20:50.32 | CIA-8 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r8523 10screamers/src/tomcrypt/ (9 files): fix the rest of the #included .c files |
| 20:52.59 | purple_cow | kergoth: what should i limit to on hyperion? |
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| 20:53.28 | kergoth | purple_cow: say 10K/s or so. only 30K/s upstream here atm |
| 20:53.34 | purple_cow | oww |
| 20:53.37 | kergoth | yep |
| 20:53.41 | kergoth | could do 15, but i've got uber stuff going on |
| 20:53.44 | kergoth | heh |
| 20:54.20 | ChipX86 | I need Era |
| 20:54.37 | kergoth | yep |
| 20:54.57 | ChipX86 | does anyone have it available on a faster connection? |
| 20:55.01 | purple_cow | err, Kbits or Kbytes? |
| 20:55.26 | ChipX86 | kbits would be horribly slow |
| 20:56.09 | purple_cow | huh |
| 20:56.16 | purple_cow | scp isn't doing a very good job at limiting itself... |
| 20:56.29 | kergoth | bytes, so -l 80 |
| 20:56.47 | ChipX86 | scp limits in kbits |
| 20:56.53 | kergoth | yep |
| 20:57.09 | purple_cow | ah, that seems a bit better |
| 20:57.19 | purple_cow | go ahead and kill it if things go awry |
| 20:57.25 | kergoth | k |
| 20:57.35 | ChipX86 | I brought up the whole "nautilus and gnome-vfs need to allow per-mount rate limiting" and people generally agreed but didn't really think it should be an easy thing users should know about |
| 20:57.55 | ChipX86 | because "Users don't know what that is!" despite most gnutella and bittorrent people now being familiar with it :) |
| 20:58.05 | darth_mall | ugh |
| 20:58.10 | darth_mall | well... I have no idea how to solve this problem |
| 21:01.19 | JeffM2501 | purple_cow, tomcrypt is some ugly ugly clode |
| 21:01.32 | purple_cow | yep |
| 21:01.53 | JeffM2501 | only 31 more warnings to go :) |
| 21:02.31 | JeffM2501 | hmm wonder if I sould just turn off 64 bit warnings |
| 21:02.47 | purple_cow | encryption code is usually pretty dirty |
| 21:10.05 | darth_mall | roflmao |
| 21:10.10 | darth_mall | today's 8-bit is too cool |
| 21:12.01 | darth_mall | ChipX86: is that because rate limiting is such a difficult concept to understand? |
| 21:12.07 | ChipX86 | darth_mall: they think so |
| 21:12.27 | ChipX86 | my non-techy friends who use P2P file transfer understand it just fine though |
| 21:12.54 | darth_mall | "if you let it, the transfer will suck up as much of your bandwidth as it can. Therefore it is prudent in some cases to limit the rate at which the transfer occurs to prevent your transfer from hogging the available bandwidth." |
| 21:13.05 | ChipX86 | it's not |
| 21:13.12 | darth_mall | plus, you can come up with colorful metaphors |
| 21:13.23 | ChipX86 | it's a problem of techy people thinking non-techy people don't understand some things, which is often true, but I don't think it is in this case |
| 21:13.34 | ChipX86 | darth_mall: water in a straw vs water in a pipe |
| 21:13.39 | ChipX86 | my favorite one |
| 21:14.18 | TD | anybody here a royksopp fan? |
| 21:14.28 | darth_mall | "think of your internet connection as a large sewer, and your data as a herd of spider monkeys. now, given half a chance the monkeys will flood the sewer pipe, thus clogging it and making your house smell bad. But, if you make the monkeys take turns so that only a few go through at a time, your sewer remains clear and your house is stink-free." |
| 21:14.45 | ChipX86 | darth_mall: hahhaa |
| 21:14.47 | ChipX86 | save that :) |
| 21:14.52 | TD | ChipX86: why does nautilus need rate limiting? |
| 21:14.59 | darth_mall | ChipX86: I will remember it for later use |
| 21:15.14 | ChipX86 | TD: if you're transferring from someone's box who only has, say, 30KB/sec (kergoth), it'll eat up all their bandwidth |
| 21:15.17 | darth_mall | where by, "remember," I mean I will recall something about monkeys and remake it up next time it comes in handy |
| 21:15.19 | ChipX86 | if you don't want to do that, you have to learn scp |
| 21:15.27 | TD | ahhh |
| 21:15.30 | ChipX86 | this is a real-world situation spooklight encountered yesterday |
| 21:15.31 | TD | yeah |
| 21:15.31 | TD | or rsync |
| 21:15.40 | TD | yeah. interesting |
| 21:15.43 | ChipX86 | and then you have to also learn quirky things like converting KB/s to kbits/sec |
| 21:15.45 | darth_mall | it's a problem I've had in the past |
| 21:15.46 | ChipX86 | and scp's funky path escaping |
| 21:15.48 | ChipX86 | darth_mall: same |
| 21:15.50 | TD | hehe |
| 21:15.53 | ChipX86 | I never used nautilus for navi because of that |
| 21:15.54 | TD | oh yeah scp is awful at that |
| 21:16.01 | ChipX86 | TD: I think we have more htan enough resources for this |
| 21:16.05 | ChipX86 | it could even be a bounty |
| 21:16.06 | TD | it took me about 2 years to figure out that the path after the : is relative to your home dir |
| 21:16.11 | darth_mall | where I've got an ssh mount thingy and I want to use it to transfer to save myself typing, but I feel guilty about sucking up bandwidth like some kind of bandwidth vacuum |
| 21:16.12 | ChipX86 | let's face it. Most people are hacking on useless things |
| 21:16.15 | ChipX86 | yet another blog client |
| 21:16.20 | ChipX86 | a 15th news reader |
| 21:16.23 | TD | yeah, well that was always true |
| 21:16.36 | ChipX86 | yeah, I'm just saying, it's doable and won't slow other things down |
| 21:16.41 | TD | sure |
| 21:16.47 | TD | so you gonna do it? |
| 21:16.51 | ChipX86 | I don't have time |
| 21:16.57 | ChipX86 | but we have gnome-love, adn someone can learn |
| 21:17.05 | ChipX86 | if I had time, yes, I would do it |
| 21:17.12 | ChipX86 | maybe I'll poke it sometime |
| 21:17.19 | ChipX86 | TD: ugh |
| 21:17.23 | darth_mall | watch it doesn't poke back |
| 21:17.27 | ChipX86 | oh, I talked ot KingAnt |
| 21:17.36 | ChipX86 | I'm going to put a libnotify plugin for gaim in gaim's tree |
| 21:17.38 | TD | what did he say? |
| 21:17.39 | TD | cool |
| 21:17.39 | ChipX86 | he's all for it |
| 21:17.44 | ChipX86 | there's a potential problem though |
| 21:17.48 | ChipX86 | he warned me that Sean may yank it |
| 21:17.57 | TD | why would he do that? |
| 21:18.03 | Cae | it's Sean. |
| 21:18.06 | ChipX86 | Sean has ideas for gaim-specific notification that he's been saying are great for about a year now, and wouldn't let anything like guifications come in |
| 21:18.15 | ChipX86 | he has never told anyone one of these ideas, or written a line of code |
| 21:18.26 | ChipX86 | but he claims it's superior over all other implementations |
| 21:18.36 | ChipX86 | so KingAnt said not to be surprised if the libnotify one just disappears |
| 21:18.42 | *** join/#tacobeam cwisty (~default@ec237-28-dhcp.colorado.edu) |
| 21:19.12 | darth_mall | ChipX86: sometimes I just disappear |
| 21:19.22 | darth_mall | I usually find myself cowering under my bed covers a few hours later |
| 21:19.23 | ChipX86 | it'd be nice if Sean just kind of left the project and someone like KingAnt took over |
| 21:19.32 | darth_mall | it usually seems to happen during thunderstorms |
| 21:19.35 | ChipX86 | darth_mall: :( |
| 21:20.05 | darth_mall | I also like peanutbutter |
| 21:20.27 | darth_mall | and I'm craving sugar... |
| 21:20.48 | darth_mall | but I can't decide if I really want to go down to the silly vending machine |
| 21:23.29 | ChipX86 | yay, Jamiemail |
| 21:24.03 | ChipX86 | (see how that just works? jami-e-mail) |
| 21:24.23 | nullpuppy | lol |
| 21:24.25 | darth_mall | yes, yes I do |
| 21:28.52 | TD | ahhhh |
| 21:28.56 | TD | downloading at 200kb/sec |
| 21:29.01 | TD | nice |
| 21:29.06 | TD | except it shows up bugs in gamin and gnome |
| 21:29.11 | TD | <sigh> |
| 21:29.16 | ChipX86 | :( |
| 21:29.20 | ChipX86 | I've hit those |
| 21:29.31 | TD | ChipX86: he should be kicked out i guess. sean that is |
| 21:29.43 | ChipX86 | TD: I wish |
| 21:29.48 | ChipX86 | nobody has the power to do that |
| 21:29.59 | TD | that's why every project should have only one maintainer :/ |
| 21:30.07 | TD | can't KingAnt do it and just get it over with? |
| 21:30.13 | TD | revoke his SF access or something? or he is the only admin |
| 21:30.31 | CIA-8 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10bzflag/src/bzfs/ (bzfs.cxx bzfsAPI.cxx): |
| 21:30.31 | CIA-8 | BZFlag: make playerKill use the spawn on base thingy |
| 21:30.31 | CIA-8 | BZFlag: make TKs respawn on base if they die in a team game |
| 21:30.39 | ChipX86 | he's an admin, but I don't think he can revoke access |
| 21:30.44 | ChipX86 | not Sean's, anyway |
| 21:31.20 | TD | how come? |
| 21:31.33 | ChipX86 | iirc, there's admins, and then there's project founders |
| 21:31.55 | ChipX86 | Rob's gone and founder-status moved to Sean |
| 21:33.21 | ChipX86 | TD: and galago integration into evolution may not happen very well |
| 21:33.28 | ChipX86 | NotZed seemed less than thrilled with the idea |
| 21:33.37 | ChipX86 | nor did he even realize what galago was or why anyone would care |
| 21:33.44 | TD | huh |
| 21:33.46 | ChipX86 | called it unnecessary bloat |
| 21:33.53 | TD | well, maybe we can work on him |
| 21:34.00 | darth_mall | s/work on/kill/ |
| 21:34.03 | TD | he isn't a total lunatic. plus these days i think others are more powerful in evo |
| 21:34.07 | TD | it's not like he's the sole maintainer |
| 21:34.24 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 21:34.28 | ChipX86 | I should talk to harish |
| 21:34.47 | ChipX86 | he's not turning it away, just isn't really caring, and doesn't care for bounties apparently |
| 21:34.54 | ChipX86 | he didn't even know there was a bounty on this |
| 21:34.59 | TD | i think most of the old evo team are burned out on it |
| 21:35.06 | TD | novell seem to be moving people around lately |
| 21:35.22 | TD | i'd be burned out after working on an email program for 5 years |
| 21:35.27 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 21:49.01 | TD | grrrrr |
| 21:49.08 | TD | wine/quicktime lose audio sync when put under cpu load |
| 21:49.15 | TD | i can't compile and watch royksopp video at the same time <sigh> |
| 21:49.21 | TD | works OK if quicktime is allowed to hog the cpu tho |
| 21:53.41 | purple_cow | o/~ those evil natured robots, they're programmed to destroy us. she's gotta be strong to fight them, so she's takin' lots of vitamins o/~ |
| 21:54.22 | ChipX86 | I can already tell that that's probably the best song ever made |
| 21:54.43 | purple_cow | hehehe |
| 21:54.50 | purple_cow | it's pretty good :) |
| 21:54.58 | TD | sounds like the opening song to a game from the 80s |
| 21:55.08 | purple_cow | yoshimi, they don't believe me, but you won't let those robots eat me |
| 21:55.12 | ChipX86 | I wonder how my bird is doing |
| 21:57.00 | numist | probably dying without you |
| 21:57.07 | ChipX86 | well he can't get in |
| 21:57.57 | TD | sigh |
| 21:58.06 | TD | domain name i registered a couple of days ago still has not propogated here |
| 21:58.19 | ChipX86 | :/ |
| 21:58.20 | cwisty | I'll talk to you all later |
| 21:58.22 | cwisty | byebye |
| 21:58.24 | ChipX86 | cya |
| 21:58.26 | TD | bye! |
| 21:59.00 | ChipX86 | http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory?id=874653 |
| 21:59.23 | *** part/#tacobeam cwisty (~default@ec237-28-dhcp.colorado.edu) |
| 22:00.45 | Cae | okay, driving to Houston. see you guys Monday. |
| 22:01.09 | ChipX86 | hvae a good time |
| 22:03.40 | kergoth | nullpuppy: have 3 6 slot bags for your horde rogue. switched my shaman from herb/alc to skin/tailor |
| 22:03.50 | nullpuppy | ok, cool :) |
| 22:03.55 | nullpuppy | thanks |
| 22:04.16 | ChipX86 | ooh, I'd love some bags if you have spares later |
| 22:04.34 | kergoth | i'm sure i will, have linen laying around from killing scarlet folks in tirisfal |
| 22:05.54 | kergoth | my bro created a new char to level, and i'm leveling my shaman. i created a warrior to play with his warlock and you guys that i'll keep that an equal level |
| 22:06.06 | kergoth | s/that/at/ |
| 22:06.07 | kergoth | heh |
| 22:06.25 | ChipX86 | heh |
| 22:06.40 | ChipX86 | any plans on continuing your alliance char? |
| 22:07.18 | kergoth | s/char/chars/. yeah i'll go back and play them, for me what char and side i play is just a matter of mood. what i feel like playing |
| 22:07.24 | ChipX86 | nod |
| 22:07.28 | ChipX86 | I just want to get to new places |
| 22:07.33 | ChipX86 | and do new quests |
| 22:07.37 | ChipX86 | it gets harder to solo them though |
| 22:07.46 | ChipX86 | not that I'm going to play for a week |
| 22:07.50 | kergoth | nod. i'm up for that, i've always liked my mage, just only play him when you're on |
| 22:07.52 | ChipX86 | nor should I play for a month |
| 22:07.56 | kergoth | heh, busy with work? |
| 22:08.01 | kergoth | or galago? |
| 22:08.02 | ChipX86 | disneyland next week |
| 22:08.10 | ChipX86 | and galago and notification stuff need to be done for the presentation |
| 22:08.14 | ChipX86 | although I think I'm just going to talk about it and do slides |
| 22:08.21 | ChipX86 | there's just nothing interesting to show off :( |
| 22:08.22 | kergoth | ah |
| 22:08.40 | TD | yay for bugs that disappear when you try to debug them |
| 22:08.41 | purple_cow | hmm. do i go out to a coffee shop, or do i make coffee here? |
| 22:08.44 | TD | especially yay for race conditions |
| 22:08.45 | TD | cbsta |
| 22:08.47 | ChipX86 | purple_cow: I'd say both |
| 22:09.50 | CIA-8 | navi-misc: 03jeffm * r8524 10screamers/ (14 files in 3 dirs): make TNL and the horible thing that is tomcrypt build on windows. |
| 22:10.07 | gonkulator | dang... its hot |
| 22:20.21 | kergoth | nullpuppy: my bro sent you a number of leather items that are likely better than anything you have. he's a leatherworker now. |
| 22:20.35 | ChipX86 | http://ap.lancasteronline.com/4/traffic_prank |
| 22:22.19 | nullpuppy | ok |
| 22:22.50 | kergoth | nullpuppy: oh, whenever you get on next, we need to get your signature on the Naked And Famous guild charter :) |
| 22:23.08 | kergoth | hmmmm |
| 22:23.38 | nullpuppy | ok :) |
| 22:23.50 | nullpuppy | i'll probably be on tonight.. around 9pm PST |
| 22:23.55 | ChipX86 | um, we have interesting flavores of ice cream here right now |
| 22:23.55 | nullpuppy | so.. about 5.5hrs from now |
| 22:24.02 | ChipX86 | avocado, coconut, and plum |
| 22:24.03 | nullpuppy | erm.. 6.5hrs.. |
| 22:24.10 | nullpuppy | erm... later |
| 22:24.11 | nullpuppy | :) |
| 22:24.14 | darth_mall | oooh... plub |
| 22:24.16 | darth_mall | erm... plum |
| 22:24.19 | darth_mall | that sounds yummers |
| 22:24.20 | purple_cow | hmm... |
| 22:24.24 | purple_cow | which coffee machine to use... |
| 22:24.30 | darth_mall | purple_cow: the black one |
| 22:24.35 | purple_cow | darth_mall: thanks |
| 22:24.40 | darth_mall | welcome |
| 22:24.52 | purple_cow | i dunno what i'd do without you |
| 22:25.29 | darth_mall | I dunno what I'd do with me either |
| 22:25.44 | darth_mall | of course, it's probably a bigger issue for me than it is for you |
| 22:33.40 | ChipX86 | wonder if I should just get a vonage account |
| 22:34.50 | darth_mall | ChipX86: only if you get one for me too |
| 22:40.05 | ChipX86 | there's no contract. Think I'll try it |
| 22:40.57 | ToyKeeper | Hmm... I think vonage was the company in that ad from best buy. |
| 22:41.45 | ChipX86 | people I know who use it love it |
| 22:43.21 | ToyKeeper | I know some people who are pretty happy with packet8... $20/mo for unlimited use in the US. |
| 22:45.02 | ChipX86 | what I need is to get a new cell phone |
| 22:45.07 | ChipX86 | and I'd end up keeping it as a chico number |
| 22:45.14 | ChipX86 | maybe do a friends and family plan with Jamie |
| 22:46.25 | ChipX86 | wonder how well the reception for Cingular and Verizon is in Chico now |
| 22:46.30 | ToyKeeper | Nobody has any cheap cell plans. |
| 22:46.53 | ChipX86 | yeah, but I need a new contract soon anyway |
| 22:47.03 | ChipX86 | and a bluetooth phone preferably |
| 22:47.13 | ChipX86 | with unlimited free interweb |
| 22:47.23 | darth_mall | and a 5 foot long sub |
| 22:47.43 | ChipX86 | of course |
| 22:50.10 | ToyKeeper | I've just got a "pay as you go" teliax voip acct. |
| 22:51.02 | ChipX86 | that'd be costly for me |
| 22:51.09 | ToyKeeper | It ends up being quite a bit cheaper than an unlimited plan, for me... $0.02/minute |
| 22:51.11 | ChipX86 | I talk an average of 3-5 hours a day on the phon |
| 22:51.13 | ChipX86 | phone |
| 22:51.39 | ToyKeeper | Yeah, that would cost a lot. |
| 22:52.11 | ToyKeeper | I still haven't gone through the $15 I put into the acct a couple months ago. :) |
| 22:52.22 | darth_mall | uhoh |
| 22:52.32 | ChipX86 | TD: wb! |
| 22:55.55 | TD | grrr |
| 22:56.01 | TD | my motivation to hack wine goes up and down like a yoyo right now |
| 22:56.36 | TD | in the middle of fixing this "Assertion: !bogus context" bug, i see this stupid story on slashdot about codeweavers announcing mac suppport |
| 22:56.37 | ChipX86 | :( |
| 22:56.42 | ChipX86 | uh oh |
| 22:56.45 | TD | wtf? it doesn't even run on BSD let alone the mac |
| 22:56.55 | ChipX86 | slashdot says a lot of things.. |
| 22:57.03 | TD | yeah well it turns out this was based on a press release we did |
| 22:57.07 | ChipX86 | ugh |
| 22:57.07 | TD | and a post to darwine-devel by jer |
| 22:57.25 | TD | who says we'll be supporting the darwine project (with what money?) |
| 22:57.37 | ChipX86 | you should work here |
| 22:57.38 | TD | the whole thing is stupid. it turns out before becoming a wine company CW was actually a mac software house |
| 22:57.44 | TD | and the reality distortion field is still strong |
| 22:58.07 | TD | anyway, the upside is after blowing me off about the business problems with a crossover/mac port, jer talked to some old friend of his who basically confirmed what i was saying |
| 22:58.14 | TD | and now they're dropping that idea. they just want to do services now |
| 22:58.15 | ChipX86 | hah |
| 23:00.37 | TD | tempting but they're a good bunch ;) i'd rather just quit |
| 23:00.49 | darth_mall | well, you don't have to use it on them, per se |
| 23:00.54 | darth_mall | numist: that's a great idea! |
| 23:01.11 | darth_mall | oh wait... nuclear war = bad... |
| 23:01.33 | numist | I didnt say I would do it, I just want intl attention :D |
| 23:01.53 | TD | hopefully some of these contacts i have will turn into something |
| 23:01.55 | darth_mall | well, there are safer ways to get attention |
| 23:01.56 | TD | who knows .... |
| 23:02.54 | ChipX86 | TD: vmware! |
| 23:03.19 | darth_mall | TD: I think ChipX86 wants you to come work with him |
| 23:03.21 | TD | that'd be great, but i have to stay in england for another year while i'm at uni ;) |
| 23:03.22 | TD | hehe |
| 23:03.30 | darth_mall | telecommute ^^ |
| 23:03.40 | TD | well i'd certainly be happy to work at vmware, at least for a while. |
| 23:04.00 | TD | i'm hoping to go into porting/binary distribution/ISV development consulting at some point |
| 23:04.28 | TD | seeing as how i'm now an "expert" in win32->linux migration and distributing the resulting apps in a way that doesn't crash and burn when people install it on WeirdIX |
| 23:04.44 | darth_mall | hehe WeirdIX |
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| 23:12.24 | CIA-8 | g2bridge: 03evan * r366 10bridge/src/gsi_var.h: |
| 23:12.24 | CIA-8 | g2bridge: Deleted the body of the Type() function instead of the destructor last time. Fix the Type() function |
| 23:12.24 | CIA-8 | g2bridge: and body of the destructor again. |
| 23:13.10 | CIA-8 | g2bridge: 03evan * r367 10bridge/src/gsi_callbacks.cpp: |
| 23:13.10 | CIA-8 | g2bridge: Get an item from the registered_item and use that in the attr access functions. |
| 23:13.10 | CIA-8 | g2bridge: This doesn't work either, so it's not going to stay this way. |
| 23:19.17 | purple_cow | aw fuck, the middle mouse button on my laptop just broke |
| 23:19.41 | darth_mall | >< |
| 23:19.43 | darth_mall | that sucks |
| 23:20.04 | ChipX86 | purple_cow: ack |
| 23:20.14 | purple_cow | still usable, but it's really loose |
| 23:20.15 | ChipX86 | time to send it in? :/ |
| 23:20.35 | numist | purple_cow: thinkpad? (me thinks: middle mouse button on lappy) |
| 23:20.38 | ChipX86 | that's my one worry about using my laptop for everything |
| 23:20.47 | purple_cow | ChipX86: i'd be much happier if they just sent me out a replacement button :P |
| 23:20.52 | purple_cow | it's just a cheap plastic part |
| 23:20.54 | purple_cow | numist: yeah |
| 23:21.01 | numist | ChipX86: the middle mouse button can be replaced pretty easy if you didnt break anything |
| 23:21.08 | ChipX86 | yeah, but then you void warranty |
| 23:21.15 | numist | ChipX86: nah |
| 23:21.18 | numist | just dont break anything |
| 23:21.26 | numist | putting it back on is a bit fiddly, but works |
| 23:25.27 | CIA-8 | g2bridge: 03evan * r368 10bridge/src/gsi_callbacks.cpp: |
| 23:25.27 | CIA-8 | g2bridge: Declarations and initializations for the rpc I'm going to try and use to |
| 23:25.27 | CIA-8 | g2bridge: get the gsi_item information I need from G2 into the bridge. |
| 23:25.49 | darth_mall | and on that note, I go home |
| 23:29.50 | purple_cow | urgh, the serial number is on a label which the print has worn off of |
| 23:29.52 | ChipX86 | http://dot.kde.org/1119552379/ |
| 23:29.58 | ChipX86 | purple_cow: oh great :/ |
| 23:45.00 | purple_cow | yay for having windows on there |
| 23:45.11 | purple_cow | they had a little activeX dealy that detected the model and serial numbers |
| 23:45.35 | purple_cow | and the support request is all placed now :) |
| 23:46.28 | purple_cow | looks like there's a list of "customer replacable units" where they'll just ship the part and instructions. i didn't see the mouse buttons listed there, but considering that they include keyboard and hard disk on there, it's probably just an oversight |
| 23:48.50 | ChipX86 | grr |
| 23:48.54 | ChipX86 | I can't figure out how my chair works |
| 23:51.32 | ChipX86 | this shouldn't be this hard |
| 23:53.46 | ChipX86 | this is the most complicated chair in the world |
| 23:59.28 | ChipX86 | chairs should not have 4 dials and levers |
