| 00:00.06 | JeffM2501 | purple_cow, so to .scene or not to .scene? |
| 00:00.52 | purple_cow | prolly not |
| 00:01.14 | JeffM2501 | so just a mesh list? |
| 00:01.41 | JeffM2501 | tho wonder if we can gank the tinyXML it uses |
| 00:02.20 | JeffM2501 | so parser just on the server side? and send the map data over the wire binary? |
| 00:03.05 | purple_cow | ganking is always an option |
| 00:03.34 | purple_cow | sure |
| 00:03.48 | JeffM2501 | then it could still be XML and clean |
| 00:04.23 | ChipX86 | woops, had my finger sitting on a key in a file I was typing and when I looked back, my file was gone.. deleted line by line |
| 00:05.02 | nullpuppy | haha :( |
| 00:06.09 | purple_cow | aaargh |
| 00:06.10 | purple_cow | tcfmgr: config file `tcfmgr.map' (usually in $TEXMFMAIN/texconfig) not found. |
| 00:06.15 | purple_cow | bhaskara texmf # ls $TEXMFMAIN/texconfig |
| 00:06.16 | purple_cow | README g generic tcfmgr tcfmgr.map v x |
| 00:06.24 | ChipX86 | hrm |
| 00:06.30 | ChipX86 | right perms? |
| 00:06.59 | purple_cow | i'm root |
| 00:06.59 | ChipX86 | yay, Kissing Contest |
| 00:07.04 | ChipX86 | purple_cow: ah. Probably not that then |
| 00:11.24 | JeffM2501 | purple_cow, tinyXML isn't a normal package on linux is it? |
| 00:11.58 | purple_cow | what is tinyXML? |
| 00:12.05 | JeffM2501 | a small XML parser |
| 00:12.15 | JeffM2501 | like 2 files |
| 00:13.00 | JeffM2501 | "TinyXml is a simple, small, minimal, C++ XML parser that can be easily integrating into other programs. It reads XML and creates C++ objects representing the XML document. The objects can be manipulated, changed, and saved again as XML." |
| 00:16.38 | purple_cow | hmm. it's not in portage, at least |
| 00:16.57 | purple_cow | if it's just 2 files, it's probably something that can be easily pulled into the tree |
| 00:17.27 | JeffM2501 | yeah that's what I'm thinking |
| 00:17.37 | JeffM2501 | it's what ogre uses to parse it's .scene, and they have it in |
| 00:17.44 | JeffM2501 | looks butt simple too |
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| 00:20.26 | ChipX86 | awww |
| 00:20.29 | ChipX86 | :( |
| 00:20.31 | purple_cow | mwahaha! i'm free! |
| 00:20.38 | ChipX86 | you could see if you remember the solutions to each level now |
| 00:20.51 | purple_cow | hah |
| 00:20.59 | ChipX86 | or download more level packs |
| 00:21.02 | nullpuppy | yeah, try to beat your best turn count |
| 00:21.03 | ChipX86 | since that was only a few of them |
| 00:21.29 | purple_cow | NO! |
| 00:21.36 | nullpuppy | lol |
| 00:21.48 | ChipX86 | some of the other level packs out there are neat |
| 00:21.58 | ChipX86 | challenging too |
| 00:22.51 | nullpuppy | damn portage tree, why must you be so damn big... |
| 00:24.57 | nullpuppy | ... wtf... gremlin is mysteriously short 4gb of space |
| 00:25.00 | nullpuppy | i can't find it... |
| 00:25.19 | nullpuppy | well.. almost 4gb... |
| 00:26.35 | purple_cow | nullpuppy: ext3? |
| 00:26.40 | purple_cow | or 2? |
| 00:26.47 | nullpuppy | neither |
| 00:26.47 | nullpuppy | jfs |
| 00:26.57 | purple_cow | ah. are any blocks reserved? |
| 00:26.57 | nullpuppy | its a 10gb drive... |
| 00:27.05 | nullpuppy | dunno |
| 00:31.37 | purple_cow | argh, stupid apache |
| 00:32.25 | CIA-8 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r8488 10motion/Motion/motion.c: use two lists instead of a hash table, since we need to know the order things are in. without that, we'd end up doing 40 string hash lookups per frame, which is icky |
| 00:34.33 | pagefault | going to see batman in 30 minutes |
| 00:34.38 | darth_mall | purple_cow: did you read the most recent AIR? |
| 00:36.09 | CIA-8 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r8489 10motion/Motion/ (motion.c motion.h): rename 'Motion' class to 'AMC', since that makes a lot more sense |
| 00:36.22 | purple_cow | nope |
| 00:37.26 | purple_cow | heh |
| 00:50.16 | CIA-8 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r8490 10motion/Motion/ (motion.c setup.py): create a numeric array for each bone, which is dof x frames big |
| 00:51.47 | CIA-8 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r8491 10motion/Motion/motion.h: define PY_ARRAY_UNIQUE_SYMBOL, since apparently that's handy |
| 00:54.03 | darth_mall | guh... Ajay keeps giving me more and more comics... |
| 00:54.33 | nullpuppy | yay |
| 00:55.31 | purple_cow | mmm halou |
| 01:35.32 | purple_cow | whee |
| 01:35.38 | purple_cow | there is SO much room in our fridge now |
| 01:35.49 | purple_cow | and still lots of stuff that can be thrown out, just i'm bored of throwing out stuff now |
| 01:44.33 | darth_mall | default?! woohoo! the two sweetest words in the english language! de fault! de fault! |
| 01:46.59 | darth_mall | 3...2...1... make rocket go now! |
| 01:51.11 | purple_cow | yay, dinner |
| 01:51.15 | darth_mall | indeed |
| 02:03.21 | darth_mall | http://www.nataliedee.com/062105/zombiesex.jpg |
| 02:05.36 | rioter | haha |
| 02:06.07 | purple_cow | darth_mall: grabbed another siouxsie album |
| 02:06.16 | darth_mall | woo |
| 02:09.35 | CIA-8 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r8493 10screamers/doc/specification: wow, a whole bunch of bad spelling that i didn't catch the first time around. jeff's skill at that will never cease to amaze me |
| 02:20.47 | ChipX86 | it's time for me to learn how to rip a DVD in linux |
| 02:20.59 | darth_mall | you gots to have strong fingers |
| 02:21.22 | darth_mall | and also buy food |
| 02:46.14 | kergoth | yay, home |
| 02:46.20 | darth_mall | boooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo |
| 02:46.22 | kergoth | wow anyone? |
| 02:46.23 | darth_mall | or... yay |
| 02:46.45 | kergoth | my bro likes zim, but has never seen the first episode. i must correct this |
| 02:46.54 | darth_mall | liar! kill him! |
| 02:46.56 | kergoth | he didnt get the worse.. or better? reference i used earlier |
| 02:47.09 | darth_mall | it's not stupid... it's advanced |
| 02:47.25 | kergoth | :D |
| 02:47.49 | kergoth | darth_mall: i started a horde char on suramar :) |
| 02:48.07 | darth_mall | yay |
| 02:49.21 | kergoth | that could be interesting |
| 02:49.37 | kergoth | except that they havent changed the pvp stuff to make it dishonorable to kill people way below your level :( |
| 02:50.02 | kergoth | darth_mall: i love my shaman :D its a pretty cool class |
| 02:50.08 | darth_mall | yay cool |
| 02:50.23 | darth_mall | being cool rocks |
| 02:50.24 | kergoth | secondary tank, secondary healer, and can cast spells to pull, and has totems to buff the party |
| 03:03.01 | KeyserLaptop | i think i'd be much better off using a pair of CMOS image sensors connected to an FPGA, and correlating the images inside the FPGA, than sending the entire image to a PC and processing it there |
| 03:04.33 | KeyserLaptop | i could get a lens that blocks everything except the frequency the laser pointer emits at, and then all i need to do is find the brightest pixel in the each image, compare pixel locations between them, and ship the results out a serial port, or maybe have the fpga memory mapped to a small uC with a USB port built in |
| 03:05.35 | KeyserLaptop | ooh, the CMOS sensors are usually controlled via I2C |
| 03:07.39 | KeyserLaptop | since i only need to scan for the location of the brightest pixel in each frame, i can use a high-resolution sensor, but I don't need a lot of RAM |
| 03:07.50 | purple_cow | darth_mall: we should probably just go |
| 03:10.46 | darth_mall | so should purple_cow |
| 03:10.54 | darth_mall | but I have no motivation to get up |
| 03:11.21 | purple_cow | heh |
| 03:11.30 | darth_mall | http://www.dumbrella.com/bb/viewtopic.php?t=2204 |
| 03:11.33 | darth_mall | everyone should read the last post |
| 03:11.35 | purple_cow | i could pour a large jar of fire ants on you |
| 03:11.38 | purple_cow | that might motivate you |
| 03:11.51 | darth_mall | that would be more motivation to flay you alive then to go to safeway |
| 03:15.07 | purple_cow | you mean ajay's post? his isn't the last |
| 03:15.59 | darth_mall | those last two were added in the last 10 minutes since I brought the page up =P |
| 03:17.24 | purple_cow | i'm guessing a customer peed in a trash can? :) |
| 03:17.30 | purple_cow | how come i haven't seen a comic about that?! |
| 03:18.03 | darth_mall | e-mail him and ask him |
| 03:18.24 | darth_mall | Ajay loves getting feedback from readers |
| 03:23.20 | darth_mall | SAFEWAY! |
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| 03:56.46 | ChipX86 | kergoth: playing? |
| 03:57.17 | kergoth | not yet, was constructing an nLite windows xp pro slipstreamed with sp2 and his motherboard drivers and stuff so he can reload his box |
| 03:57.23 | kergoth | about to |
| 03:57.28 | ChipX86 | ughhh |
| 03:57.31 | ChipX86 | trolls start where orcs start |
| 03:57.33 | ChipX86 | I hate where orcs start |
| 03:57.44 | kergoth | we need to get autotravel routes in the horde areas |
| 03:57.45 | numist | bah I go home and I work more than when I was at work... |
| 03:57.49 | kergoth | i started on them |
| 03:59.50 | ChipX86 | *sihg* I hate starting over so muhc |
| 04:00.25 | kergoth | hehe. i like it, keeps things interesting |
| 04:00.59 | ChipX86 | I feel like I'm wasting my time |
| 04:01.10 | ChipX86 | and I have to do the same stupid quests over again |
| 04:03.52 | ChipX86 | I'm just tired and grumbpy |
| 04:08.12 | rioter | mmm |
| 04:08.33 | rioter | the new apocalyptica has few tracks with lyrics :| |
| 04:13.12 | purple_cow | mmm, grumbpy |
| 04:13.46 | ChipX86 | typing badly tonight, and also, the keyboard is to my left |
| 04:14.56 | darth_mall | also... potato |
| 04:19.51 | darth_mall | hehe... Siskel & Ebert: The Movie |
| 04:21.36 | kergoth | ChipX86: whats your new char's name? |
| 04:22.16 | ChipX86 | Tankar |
| 04:22.45 | purple_cow | yay poe |
| 04:22.51 | nullpuppy | horde on suramar? |
| 04:23.02 | purple_cow | she needs to hurry up and make a whole lot more albums |
| 04:23.26 | kergoth | nullpuppy: yup |
| 04:23.35 | nullpuppy | k |
| 04:23.49 | nullpuppy | what ze char names? |
| 04:23.51 | kergoth | aw, undercity! i've missed you! |
| 04:24.04 | kergoth | i'm beyoterk. my bro is baconbits. chip is tankar. |
| 04:24.18 | nullpuppy | k |
| 04:24.19 | darth_mall | hehe... baconbits |
| 04:24.27 | nullpuppy | hmm |
| 04:26.05 | purple_cow | hmm, i should do some laundry tonight |
| 04:27.30 | kergoth | ChipX86: i'm in brill. if you dont like the troll/orc area (i dont either), you're welcome to come along when you hit level 4 or 5 or so.. |
| 04:28.31 | ChipX86 | sure |
| 04:28.37 | darth_mall | ChipX86: moo? |
| 04:28.43 | ChipX86 | hi |
| 04:28.54 | darth_mall | hi |
| 04:29.24 | ChipX86 | there's a task show called LOL |
| 04:30.08 | nullpuppy | ChipX86: what class are you playing? |
| 04:30.29 | ChipX86 | hunter |
| 04:30.32 | nullpuppy | k |
| 04:32.00 | nullpuppy | ok, now for a name... hmm |
| 04:32.08 | darth_mall | pantsy mcgee! |
| 04:32.18 | nullpuppy | lol |
| 04:32.27 | nullpuppy | almost good enough |
| 04:32.29 | nullpuppy | almost |
| 04:33.30 | zak | heh |
| 04:33.35 | zak | i forgot this was open |
| 04:33.40 | nullpuppy | hehe |
| 04:33.42 | kergoth | heh |
| 04:34.10 | zak | on that note, it's bedtime |
| 04:34.11 | darth_mall | hehe |
| 04:34.14 | darth_mall | nullpuppy: good idear |
| 04:34.52 | nullpuppy | bye bye |
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| 04:37.12 | darth_mall | last simpsons then sleep |
| 04:39.50 | nullpuppy | bwahahahahaha |
| 04:39.56 | nullpuppy | orc rouge named negaduck |
| 04:49.14 | kergoth | cant do autotravel routes in undercity :( |
| 04:49.25 | kergoth | due to places being above other places. it cant handle the third dimension |
| 04:49.31 | kergoth | in the center area |
| 04:49.37 | darth_mall | what's the third dimension? |
| 04:49.38 | kergoth | would work in a limited fashion if you're careful |
| 04:49.39 | nullpuppy | :( |
| 04:49.51 | kergoth | darth_mall: it works against the map. no understanding of height |
| 04:49.56 | darth_mall | nope |
| 04:50.04 | darth_mall | the third dimension is a theortical realm of space and time |
| 04:50.40 | purple_cow | darth_mall: it's like i'm *actually touching you!* |
| 05:07.46 | purple_cow | eerily quiet on IRC tonight |
| 05:08.36 | ChipX86 | heh |
| 05:12.31 | purple_cow | wowie |
| 05:12.32 | purple_cow | http://ogre3d.org/index.php?full=1&set_albumName=album24&id=Otias_10&option=com_gallery&Itemid=55&include=view_photo.php |
| 05:14.26 | nullpuppy | neat |
| 05:14.52 | purple_cow | apparently that's real-time with a postprocessing shader |
| 05:15.26 | nullpuppy | awesome |
| 05:15.31 | nullpuppy | might have to poke at that |
| 05:19.51 | purple_cow | looks like people are doing some generally awesome things with ogre |
| 05:19.54 | purple_cow | http://ogre3d.org/index.php?full=1&set_albumName=album22&id=ankh_scr4&option=com_gallery&Itemid=55&include=view_photo.php |
| 05:20.06 | ChipX86 | wow |
| 05:21.19 | purple_cow | i wonder what the characters are going to look like on that antharia game |
| 05:21.37 | purple_cow | it would be awesome if they did the characters using cel shading or something, without the painting effect |
| 05:22.06 | purple_cow | would be kind of a neat juxtaposition, like all of the new animes that have CG scenes with hand-drawn characters |
| 05:23.19 | nullpuppy | huh, that looks like a really well done lucas arts game or something.. similar rendering.. just done better :) |
| 05:31.28 | purple_cow | rofl |
| 05:31.39 | purple_cow | i just found jeffm's original license for the original screamers code |
| 05:31.44 | purple_cow | 8. You do not go by the name "CELL" or any other DBZ related name online. |
| 05:31.44 | purple_cow | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:31.44 | purple_cow | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:31.44 | purple_cow | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:33.54 | nullpuppy | what's screamers? |
| 05:35.15 | purple_cow | game thingy |
| 05:35.27 | purple_cow | proof that i never learn :) |
| 05:36.08 | nullpuppy | ah, hehe :) |
| 05:47.38 | purple_cow | hey cool, the model file for the pod has UVs set |
| 05:56.28 | numist | damnit kergoth, rsync just cant keep a connection |
| 05:58.31 | gonkulator | purple_cow: do you have any leftover PCI IDE controllers? |
| 05:59.03 | purple_cow | gonkulator: nope. we only ever had one, and it's still hooked up |
| 05:59.11 | gonkulator | okey dokey |
| 05:59.42 | gonkulator | do you have any advice on a chipset to avoid? |
| 05:59.45 | gonkulator | or to go for? |
| 06:01.22 | kergoth | numist: the ssh session timing out or something? |
| 06:02.02 | purple_cow | gonkulator: depends what you're looking for. if you really want IDE raid, i can advise you, but beyond that i don't have much experience |
| 06:02.05 | numist | kergoth: peering |
| 06:02.50 | kergoth | numist: ? you're set up to run the rsync over ssh, right? not using the rsync protocol? cause i'm not running an rsync daemon |
| 06:03.02 | numist | yes |
| 06:03.07 | numist | its working for a while |
| 06:03.34 | numist | it could remotely be my connection, but after 1.5 years of 99.999 uptime, itd be weird to go down now |
| 06:05.51 | gonkulator | purple_cow: fair enough |
| 06:08.38 | kergoth | numist: strange |
| 06:08.39 | kergoth | hmm |
| 06:09.22 | numist | kergoth: oh well, doesnt matter terribly.. Ill just do while(1) { rsync (...) } ;) |
| 06:10.40 | kergoth | hehe |
| 06:11.59 | numist | (I am kidding, for those of you with bad sarcasm detectors) |
| 06:14.25 | purple_cow | while [ "`md5 file`" != "...." ]; do rsync .... |
| 06:14.26 | purple_cow | :) |
| 07:28.59 | ChipX86 | oh good |
| 07:29.12 | nullpuppy | hmm? |
| 07:29.18 | ChipX86 | Fox is beginning their phasing-out cycle for their show House |
| 07:29.33 | ChipX86 | rather than being at 9:00 on Tuesdays, it's now at 01:00 on Wednesdays |
| 07:29.52 | nullpuppy | hehe |
| 07:30.24 | ChipX86 | man this parent's an idiot |
| 07:31.00 | nullpuppy | hmm.. do I want to stay up another hour while gallery uploads to install it.. or just pray it finishes and doesn't time out again and finish it in the morning... |
| 07:31.07 | ChipX86 | heh |
| 07:31.09 | ChipX86 | depends, what's tomorrow? |
| 07:31.17 | nullpuppy | work, but not until noon |
| 07:31.30 | nullpuppy | gotta be up around 8ish though |
| 07:31.31 | ChipX86 | hrm, tomorrow's just lasagna and salad. I'll work from home |
| 07:31.41 | nullpuppy | hehe |
| 07:31.56 | nullpuppy | you're world sounds tasty... |
| 07:32.09 | ChipX86 | it's not really |
| 07:32.17 | ChipX86 | there's so much bad-tasting food that we get on occasion |
| 07:32.28 | ChipX86 | and at home, it's typically cereal, pizza, or spaghetti-o's |
| 07:32.34 | nullpuppy | yeah, i can see that |
| 07:32.35 | nullpuppy | lol |
| 07:32.37 | nullpuppy | yeah |
| 07:32.48 | nullpuppy | corn dogs or ramen here for the most part :) |
| 07:33.00 | nullpuppy | sometimes i'll make mac n cheese if i'm not completely lazy |
| 07:33.21 | ChipX86 | same, but that takes efforgt |
| 07:33.23 | ChipX86 | -g |
| 07:33.27 | nullpuppy | yeah |
| 07:33.46 | nullpuppy | ramen takes a little effort, but its quick and isn't too bad |
| 07:33.58 | ChipX86 | I have it at work all the time |
| 07:34.03 | ChipX86 | so I don't eat it at home |
| 07:34.07 | nullpuppy | hehe |
| 07:35.08 | nullpuppy | oooh.. upload may finish here in a minute or two. yay |
| 07:38.20 | ChipX86 | so in this, the two parents decide for the other's family what $50,000 will go for. The stupid lady's family is getting $10,000 for something the husband was passionate about, the kids got money for things they've always wanted, and the mother's really pissed about it all, and that all she got was a trip to hawaii |
| 07:38.29 | ChipX86 | and she's yelling at her kids |
| 07:38.52 | nullpuppy | hahahahaha |
| 07:38.57 | ChipX86 | ah, and last but not least, she gets $20,000 for whatever she wants |
| 07:38.59 | nullpuppy | our society is so fscked up |
| 07:39.20 | ChipX86 | now she's happy, but it's for her, not for the family, she says. She's demanding her hubsand buy her a new shower |
| 07:39.41 | ChipX86 | she preaches that she's tolerant of everybody and has some of the best morales in the world and that everybody needs to be like her |
| 07:40.01 | ChipX86 | it's before House, and nothing else is on |
| 07:40.27 | lurgy | might as well listen to AM talk radio while you're at it :) |
| 07:40.59 | ChipX86 | hah the stupid lady sent a letter to the other family saying that their kid is a problem and it's not his fault, it's the mother's. Nice. That's what they want to hear. |
| 07:41.05 | ChipX86 | lurgy: yeah, but *shrug* |
| 07:41.37 | lurgy | hehe |
| 07:41.58 | nullpuppy | huh.. maybe thats why fox keeps airing reality crap... |
| 07:42.06 | nullpuppy | they preface the good shows with that... |
| 07:42.07 | nullpuppy | :) |
| 07:42.15 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 07:42.24 | nullpuppy | so.. people watch the stuff before it so they don't miss the stuff they want to see |
| 07:42.36 | ChipX86 | they find the worst people, then they pick the two families who would conflict the most, put them together, and cause trouble |
| 07:42.53 | nullpuppy | and then they get so annoyed with the crap that they miss the good stuff anyways, and then it goes away :/ |
| 07:43.18 | ChipX86 | :( |
| 07:43.27 | ChipX86 | it was sooo dumb putting House past midnight |
| 07:43.31 | lurgy | hehe |
| 07:43.38 | ChipX86 | and this show is running into House's time! grr |
| 07:43.45 | ChipX86 | tivo thinks it's taping house |
| 07:44.23 | ChipX86 | lurgy: I was playing WoW through most of it |
| 07:44.30 | ChipX86 | it was just background noise |
| 07:47.02 | numist | guh my brain |
| 07:50.24 | nullpuppy | arg |
| 08:06.46 | ChipX86 | I think it's time for quality food |
| 08:06.57 | ChipX86 | like corndogs |
| 08:09.34 | nullpuppy | i think its time for bed |
| 08:09.54 | ChipX86 | g'night |
| 08:15.30 | purple_cow | hey look, there's ChipX86's mug |
| 08:15.38 | ChipX86 | yep |
| 08:16.18 | ChipX86 | as in my actual mug, or my face? |
| 08:17.43 | purple_cow | your face |
| 08:17.45 | ChipX86 | ah |
| 08:27.15 | purple_cow | guh, this guy in #bzflag is getting on my nerves more and more |
| 08:27.25 | purple_cow | he's exactly what i think of when i think of the annoying bsd user |
| 08:28.04 | ChipX86 | which? |
| 08:28.12 | purple_cow | nothing spectacular going on now, just me getting angrier over the last week or so |
| 08:28.15 | purple_cow | rkr |
| 08:29.26 | ChipX86 | is everything he says in parens? |
| 08:30.02 | purple_cow | not everything, but a fair amount |
| 08:32.35 | purple_cow | the part that bothers me is that he usually assumes people don't know what they're doing, and is really quick to criticize linux without even considering whatever issue is at hand |
| 08:32.49 | ChipX86 | heh |
| 08:33.13 | purple_cow | and from what i can tell, he's not exactly a pinnacle of knowledge himself (took a couple people a few hours to help him get CVS built) |
| 08:33.52 | ChipX86 | hah |
| 08:41.16 | ChipX86 | wow |
| 08:41.26 | ChipX86 | Hitch is being released both on DVD and for the PSP |
| 08:41.37 | ChipX86 | as a movie |
| 08:44.32 | purple_cow | heh |
| 08:44.41 | purple_cow | i had read that one porn company had already put out 4 titles |
| 08:44.47 | ChipX86 | haha |
| 08:44.50 | purple_cow | and the sony execs were miffed, but there's nothing they could do |
| 08:46.12 | purple_cow | yay! finally have all of bowie's tonight album |
| 08:46.21 | purple_cow | and the first track is about aliens! |
| 08:47.29 | purple_cow | ...and sounds like it came straight from the labyrinth soundtrack |
| 08:53.32 | ChipX86 | bed time for me. g'night |
| 09:15.32 | CIA-8 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r8494 10screamers/doc/specification: add the beginnings of some real decisions about how things are going to work. in other news, TNL is starting to look like it was packaged by untrained monkeys. people pay hundreds of dollars for this? |
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| 14:04.43 | kergoth | everybody wants to be naked and famous! |
| 14:19.04 | darth_mall | kergoth: what if I already am naked and famous |
| 14:24.25 | darth_mall | man I hate these damned squishy keyboards |
| 14:24.48 | darth_mall | I keep thinking I've pushed down ctrl and then I get all these terds in my terminal |
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| 15:07.21 | darth_mall | hehe |
| 15:07.42 | darth_mall | < bob37> anyone here using gentoo for bzflag? |
| 15:07.51 | darth_mall | that question strikes me as funny |
| 15:13.35 | TD | darth_mall: what is the purpose of an operating system if not to play bzflag? |
| 15:13.43 | TD | that, surely, is what linus had in mind all these years :) |
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| 15:14.36 | darth_mall | probably |
| 15:14.38 | darth_mall | TD: good topic |
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| 15:29.34 | darth_mall | wb JeffM2501 |
| 15:30.23 | JeffM2501 | thank you |
| 15:34.02 | kergoth | grr |
| 15:34.09 | kergoth | trying to figure out how to change the default windows explorer view for all folders to List instead of icons in my windows xp installer. cant dig up a clean .reg for it |
| 15:34.10 | kergoth | hrm |
| 15:34.43 | darth_mall | kergoth: you should beat it on and about the face with raw meat |
| 15:46.19 | darth_mall | uhoh... glib update |
| 15:48.30 | kergoth | x64 windows xp cant run old games :( |
| 15:48.36 | darth_mall | stab it! |
| 15:49.27 | file[desk] | how old? |
| 15:50.30 | kergoth | file[desk]: wanted to dig up some old command & conquer games and play them |
| 15:50.35 | kergoth | nostalgia, you know |
| 15:50.42 | kergoth | incompatible with x64 :( |
| 15:52.00 | darth_mall | stab it! stab it a lot! |
| 15:52.06 | darth_mall | in the face! |
| 15:52.48 | file[desk] | yay darth_mall |
| 15:55.00 | kergoth | you arent feeling pretty stabby every other day? :P |
| 15:55.07 | kergoth | brb, installing the non-x64 version of windows.. |
| 15:55.35 | darth_mall | kergoth: well, kind of |
| 15:55.37 | darth_mall | I mean, sure, I love stabbing |
| 15:55.37 | darth_mall | but today in particular seems like a good day to solve problems by stabbing them in the face |
| 16:13.21 | numist | buahaha, 15000 lines of code yesterday in 340 files |
| 16:16.12 | nullpuppy | kergoth: yeah... xp64 doesn't have any 16bit support. at all |
| 16:18.06 | nullpuppy | hmm... i should go make some breakfast.. |
| 16:19.02 | nullpuppy | eek |
| 16:25.02 | JeffM2501 | so if navi is gone, where is the navi-misc hosted? |
| 16:25.34 | darth_mall | navi is still up, it's just missing a lot of its disks |
| 16:25.50 | darth_mall | but I suspect that navi-misc was moved to flapjack |
| 16:25.56 | darth_mall | scanline's linode box |
| 16:26.26 | JeffM2501 | ahh |
| 16:26.32 | darth_mall | because I don't see it in navi.cx:/var/svn/ anymore |
| 16:26.35 | JeffM2501 | did he get a job somewhere? |
| 16:26.39 | darth_mall | VMWare |
| 16:26.46 | JeffM2501 | fun |
| 16:26.48 | darth_mall | he's moving out to California at the end of July |
| 16:26.52 | JeffM2501 | oh |
| 16:26.56 | JeffM2501 | where in CA? |
| 16:27.12 | darth_mall | well...VMWare is in Palo Alto, but he's living just outside of there |
| 16:27.15 | darth_mall | I forget the name of the place |
| 16:27.18 | darth_mall | ChipX86 might know |
| 16:27.21 | JeffM2501 | ahh up the north |
| 16:27.51 | Cae | http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/this_britain/story.jsp?story=648741 |
| 16:27.53 | JeffM2501 | so he'll be closer when I wish to subvert his knowledge to buid my moon rocket |
| 16:28.00 | darth_mall | hehe |
| 16:28.36 | darth_mall | yes |
| 16:28.36 | darth_mall | are you going to the moon to collect some cheese? |
| 16:29.08 | JeffM2501 | naw, tititanum |
| 16:29.13 | JeffM2501 | and a basketball team |
| 16:29.37 | darth_mall | oh =\ |
| 16:29.37 | darth_mall | I guess that's cool too |
| 16:30.03 | JeffM2501 | with a linux based instrument panel :) |
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| 17:05.38 | JeffM2501 | anyone know what the difrence between an XML "element" and a "node" is? |
| 17:05.45 | Cae | nope |
| 17:06.28 | Cae | probably |
| 17:07.33 | nullpuppy | JeffM2501: i believe an xml element is essentially the tag .... |
| 17:07.36 | nullpuppy | i'd assume a node would be a group of tags under a root tag... but I can't remember for sure.. |
| 17:07.57 | darth_mall | nullpuppy: that sounds right |
| 17:08.05 | Cae | communist lies! |
| 17:13.29 | JeffM2501 | hmmm actualy I think you ahve it reversed |
| 17:14.53 | JeffM2501 | this is probably what I get for badmouthing XML as a map format :) |
| 17:15.56 | kergoth | yay! playing red alert |
| 17:16.00 | kergoth | havent played this is so many years |
| 17:16.17 | Cae | hehe |
| 17:16.19 | Cae | play doom |
| 17:16.33 | nullpuppy | oooooooh, spiffy.. gallery 1 -> 2 migration support in 2... neato.. this will save lots of time |
| 17:17.43 | kergoth | Cae: i do :) found a new doom engine that improves the graphics some, even |
| 17:17.50 | Cae | hehe |
| 17:17.56 | kergoth | Cae: id releases old source code, so people work on new improvements ot the engines |
| 17:18.00 | kergoth | theres a badass new quake engine too :) |
| 17:18.11 | kergoth | and hexen 2 as well |
| 17:18.19 | nullpuppy | cool |
| 17:18.34 | kergoth | yeah, classics |
| 17:18.35 | kergoth | the quake Severed mod is awesome |
| 17:18.40 | kergoth | thats the one where you can cut each others limbs off |
| 17:18.43 | kergoth | and beat them to death with them |
| 17:18.53 | darth_mall | hehe |
| 17:18.56 | kergoth | its fun :D |
| 17:18.57 | darth_mall | all Beowulf and shit |
| 17:19.06 | kergoth | hehe |
| 17:19.12 | kergoth | i never played heretic or hexen much, just hexen 2 |
| 17:19.20 | kergoth | (which was a slightly improved quake engine) |
| 17:19.29 | nullpuppy | i played heretic a bit, didn't play hexen |
| 17:22.02 | nullpuppy | ok.. time to remove the old gallery dir... |
| 17:22.40 | nullpuppy | hmm, should, might run into some issues with xp64, but.. that should be current enough... |
| 17:22.40 | nullpuppy | warcraft 1 probably won't |
| 17:22.52 | kergoth | i just reinstalled, got rid of x64 to play red alert |
| 17:23.00 | nullpuppy | hehe |
| 17:23.50 | darth_mall | kergoth: where'd you get a copy of xp64? |
| 17:26.00 | Cae | methinks the amd64 show thingie tour.. |
| 17:30.19 | kergoth | umm... usenet :P |
| 17:31.30 | Cae | eehhhh, whatever :P |
| 17:32.01 | kergoth | Cae: you have a horde char on suramar yet? :) |
| 17:32.05 | Cae | hm..whenever the ATMs are out of their deposit envelopes, you can just use a regular envelope and a deposit slip, right? |
| 17:32.22 | Cae | and no, I don't :P |
| 17:32.47 | CIA-8 | g2bridge: 03evan * r355 10bridge/src/gsi_callbacks.cpp: Still can't find a good way to get the attribute info I need out of these data structures. Man I hate this API. |
| 17:33.00 | kergoth | chip's idea for the name of a new horde guild on suramar was Naked And Famous |
| 17:33.02 | kergoth | :) |
| 17:33.11 | Cae | :P |
| 17:35.10 | nullpuppy | that reminds me.. Cae you need to invite me to the alliance guild... |
| 17:44.27 | Cae | whenever Caedani or Grehan or Peanutbutter is online, whisper, and one of us will invite you. |
| 17:46.05 | nullpuppy | kk |
| 17:46.23 | Cae | what's your character's name? |
| 17:46.33 | nullpuppy | spengler |
| 17:48.14 | Cae | kk |
| 17:53.53 | TD | heya ChipX86 |
| 17:53.55 | ChipX86 | hey |
| 17:53.57 | ChipX86 | JeffM2501: Sunnyvale |
| 17:54.28 | JeffM2501 | ahhh |
| 17:55.10 | ChipX86 | yay, got a spanish translator |
| 17:56.00 | nullpuppy | hmm.. i should go shower and get ready for work |
| 18:01.36 | ChipX86 | TD: how goes? |
| 18:03.47 | TD | not bad |
| 18:03.53 | TD | we need to stabilise libnotify soon, i guess |
| 18:03.58 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 18:04.05 | TD | btw i'm not sure you can separate rendering and positioning into two separate plugins |
| 18:04.55 | TD | often they're intertwined (eg music video) |
| 18:04.56 | ChipX86 | yeah, considered that |
| 18:04.56 | ChipX86 | most plugins will be doing the job of both |
| 18:04.57 | ChipX86 | but I'd like, for example, for a standard notification plugin to be able to work with a "poof" plugin |
| 18:05.09 | ChipX86 | and I'd like the "poof" to not have to be duplicated for every plugin |
| 18:05.39 | ChipX86 | so a rendering plugin that supplies a transition plugin would use that by default, and you'd have to specifically say, "No, I want this" |
| 18:06.14 | TD | i guess so |
| 18:06.45 | ChipX86 | I still have to think about it. No code has been written. These are just concept ideas |
| 18:06.54 | ChipX86 | it'll be two weeks before I can even hack on anything |
| 18:07.14 | TD | yeah |
| 18:07.19 | TD | about the same time period here |
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| 18:09.38 | ChipX86 | hey :) |
| 18:09.45 | spooklight | hi :) |
| 18:09.45 | ChipX86 | TD: this is Jamie, Jamie, TD (Mike Hearn) |
| 18:10.04 | nullpuppy | howdy Jamie |
| 18:10.09 | spooklight | hi |
| 18:12.21 | spooklight | hehe |
| 18:13.34 | ChipX86 | ah, it's nice to wake up to a bunch of "Re-tested against bug #12345. Fixed, thanks" on the bug reports |
| 18:13.51 | spooklight | :) |
| 18:14.18 | TD | i'm back |
| 18:14.27 | TD | was cleaning the house :) |
| 18:14.29 | TD | spooklight: hi jamie |
| 18:14.49 | spooklight | hello :) |
| 18:14.50 | TD | supposed to be packing up today. way, way too much to do before then ..... |
| 18:14.59 | ChipX86 | TD: :( |
| 18:17.08 | TD | ahhhhh, it's a nice day today |
| 18:17.36 | ChipX86 | heading home? |
| 18:17.36 | TD | hot and sunny. had some pancakes with laura at this little pancake place i'd never seen before, then went up to the top of the cathedral |
| 18:17.36 | TD | going home tomorrow |
| 18:17.55 | ChipX86 | cool, how's laura? |
| 18:18.00 | TD | for a week at least. then i'm back to malvern, where i have no net access in the evenings and only web/email during the day |
| 18:18.00 | TD | <boredom> |
| 18:18.01 | ChipX86 | :~( |
| 18:18.01 | TD | yep, she's good, haven't seen her for a while |
| 18:18.02 | ChipX86 | that's no good |
| 18:18.07 | spooklight | TD: what cathedral? |
| 18:18.09 | ChipX86 | by the time you come back, open source might be gone! |
| 18:18.19 | TD | she's doing a year out after the summer, working for pfizer |
| 18:18.22 | nullpuppy | oh no! |
| 18:18.25 | ChipX86 | gnome and kde will have merged, notification will run rampant, and we'll all use SCO Linux |
| 18:18.26 | TD | spooklight: durham cathedral |
| 18:18.30 | TD | ChipX86: that'd rule |
| 18:18.38 | ChipX86 | oh yeah, the first two are good |
| 18:18.41 | TD | it'd make my job a lot easier anyway :) |
| 18:18.41 | spooklight | TD: where's that? |
| 18:18.46 | TD | spooklight: in england |
| 18:18.48 | TD | spooklight: north east |
| 18:18.51 | spooklight | cool :) |
| 18:19.12 | numist | hrm.. I cant access cia.navi.cx.. how odd |
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| 18:19.17 | pagefault | tacos! |
| 18:19.20 | numist | taco! |
| 18:19.40 | TD | ChipX86: why the hell do i consider autopackage a job these days? |
| 18:19.42 | TD | <sigh> |
| 18:19.44 | ChipX86 | TD: :( |
| 18:19.45 | TD | i'm losing me marbles |
| 18:19.46 | TD | hehe |
| 18:19.49 | ChipX86 | that's how gaim was feeling |
| 18:19.57 | ChipX86 | take a break |
| 18:19.59 | ChipX86 | hack on "fun" stuff |
| 18:20.01 | TD | yeah |
| 18:20.27 | ChipX86 | like notification integration into everything! |
| 18:20.28 | TD | autopackage is fun too :) |
| 18:20.28 | pagefault | put an iwin button in WoW |
| 18:20.28 | ChipX86 | if a program starts, let's notify the user! If a program iterates through a while loop 6 times, notify the user! |
| 18:20.28 | TD | yeah, getting libnotify/n-d solid should be doable this summer |
| 18:20.29 | TD | and integrating it into everything |
| 18:20.38 | ChipX86 | TD: the doom-sayers seem to be quiet, and some people are praising it |
| 18:20.43 | TD | esp as i can use it as a model of how to write the perfect library <bwahahaha> |
| 18:20.43 | ChipX86 | so, yay |
| 18:20.44 | TD | yay |
| 18:21.09 | ChipX86 | TD: jdub said that Ubuntu needs a notificaiton framework and they're going to look into this. He asked if it can embed any widget or web page, and I said no, but he didn't even try to get me to change my mind or say, "Oh that'd be useful, too bad" |
| 18:21.33 | ChipX86 | he did lecture a bit on how we needed to come up with a spec for notification rathe than just writing a library |
| 18:21.37 | TD | yeah, well jdub has his head screwed on (usually) |
| 18:21.40 | ChipX86 | at which point everybody jumped on him and said, "Read the spec!" |
| 18:21.57 | ChipX86 | in his defense, he hasn't been following this at all :) |
| 18:22.02 | nullpuppy | lol |
| 18:23.05 | TD | true |
| 18:23.11 | numist | hrm.. I guess my cia script didnt work |
| 18:23.14 | numist | well, micahs |
| 18:24.13 | ChipX86 | cia is perfect |
| 18:25.27 | pagefault | I hate how bureucratic distros are |
| 18:25.40 | pagefault | all I want to do is maintain a package and they make it so complicated |
| 18:25.56 | TD | distros suck |
| 18:26.02 | TD | pagefault: just write an autopackage and be done with it ;) |
| 18:26.13 | ChipX86 | pagefault: you're too big to be having to maintain the packages. They should do it for you! |
| 18:26.15 | pagefault | I don't use gentoo |
| 18:26.26 | ChipX86 | apparently, the fedora guys are packaging galago |
| 18:26.32 | TD | uh oh |
| 18:26.52 | ChipX86 | also, Foresight, and there are gentoo ebuilds (though not official), and I need to get other distros involved |
| 18:27.07 | TD | good stuff i guess |
| 18:27.08 | ChipX86 | theoretically, the Nokia guys are packaging it too, I guess |
| 18:27.10 | TD | though i wish those guys would spend their time fixing bugs and writing code |
| 18:27.14 | ChipX86 | oh, and SuSE |
| 18:27.14 | TD | instead of packaging stuff |
| 18:27.20 | ChipX86 | nod |
| 18:27.23 | numist | grr |
| 18:28.21 | numist | --- cia.navi.cx ping statistics --- |
| 18:28.21 | numist | 14 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 13017ms |
| 18:29.27 | ChipX86 | numist: ouch |
| 18:29.32 | ChipX86 | that's not good |
| 18:33.04 | pagefault | I love WoW |
| 18:33.06 | pagefault | quest: find the missing beer recipe |
| 18:33.40 | ChipX86 | hah |
| 18:34.10 | numist | damn, still not working |
| 18:34.25 | ChipX86 | the jabber server has been broken for ages. So they're suggesting replacing it. They have NOT tried to *upgrade* it as we've requested over and over again |
| 18:35.14 | ChipX86 | it's about 2-3 years old |
| 18:35.15 | file[laptop] | send an anonymous threatening e-mail |
| 18:36.02 | TD | ChipX86: does plan99.net resolve for you? |
| 18:36.45 | ChipX86 | npoe |
| 18:36.58 | TD | ok |
| 18:37.01 | numist | if someone could keep an eye open in here and in #commits for a commit to the repos numi-misc, Id appreciate it |
| 18:37.31 | ChipX86 | woot, the meeting I was going to miss today has been moved to Friday |
| 18:37.36 | ChipX86 | of course, I have an interview Friday |
| 18:37.44 | ChipX86 | numist: sure |
| 18:39.09 | ChipX86 | ooh |
| 18:39.11 | ChipX86 | libnotify for gossip |
| 18:39.14 | ChipX86 | I bet the gossip guys will reject it |
| 18:39.23 | TD | hallski wasn't too cold on it earlier |
| 18:39.26 | TD | he was helping davyd etc |
| 18:40.32 | ChipX86 | oh wow |
| 18:40.39 | ChipX86 | Philip Van Hoof is working on galago integration :) |
| 18:40.52 | ChipX86 | and is well aware that the gossip guys don't really like galago |
| 18:40.57 | ChipX86 | but wants it anyway |
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| 18:54.32 | ChipX86 | bye bye :/ |
| 18:55.50 | numist | so, Ive figured it out.. my dns is fxored... is there a way I can tell my machine to just not use the ISPs dns entries and go somewhere else? |
| 18:55.54 | numist | dont have anything here for it |
| 18:57.08 | ChipX86 | sure |
| 18:57.17 | ChipX86 | but I don't know whose you can use |
| 18:57.31 | numist | d'oh |
| 18:57.33 | file[laptop] | *cough* I do |
| 18:57.46 | numist | maybe I can use simpli's my buddy works for them |
| 18:58.18 | file[laptop] | 209.244.0.1, 209.244.0.2, 209.244.0.3, 209.244.0.4, etc |
| 19:02.19 | numist | nice |
| 19:02.58 | pagefault | I can't believe someone maintains a site of age of consent in the world |
| 19:04.02 | Cae | what? |
| 19:04.20 | pagefault | www.ageofconsent.com |
| 19:04.20 | Cae | ..creepy |
| 19:04.30 | pagefault | apparently it's 14 here |
| 19:04.59 | ChipX86 | "How old is OLD ENOUGH?" |
| 19:05.08 | pagefault | I dunno |
| 19:05.11 | ChipX86 | with a viagra link. |
| 19:05.14 | ChipX86 | that's scary |
| 19:05.24 | pagefault | to be honest I don't really know if there is a certain age |
| 19:05.36 | pagefault | I think it varies from person to person |
| 19:05.42 | ChipX86 | leglaly |
| 19:05.50 | ChipX86 | I was quoting what's on the site |
| 19:05.52 | pagefault | yeah I know but morally |
| 19:05.52 | Cae | it depends on whether or not one of the people is above the age |
| 19:06.03 | Cae | because if two 12 year olds have sex, then.. |
| 19:06.11 | Cae | as far as I am aware, there is no law against that |
| 19:06.20 | ChipX86 | sadly, that's common |
| 19:06.33 | Cae | but if a 15 year old and an 18 year old have sex, then that's statutory rape, I'm pretty sure |
| 19:06.40 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 19:06.45 | Cae | I think there's an age range that's allowed though |
| 19:06.51 | darth_mall | bleh |
| 19:06.54 | Cae | ie within 2 years |
| 19:06.54 | pagefault | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:06.54 | pagefault | (5) It is not a defence to a charge under section 153, 159, 170, 171 or 172 or subsection 212(2) or (4) that the accused believed that the complainant was eighteen years of age or more at the time the offence is alleged to have been committed unless the accused took all reasonable steps to ascertain the age of the complainant. |
| 19:07.05 | pagefault | hahaha |
| 19:07.05 | darth_mall | this has turned into a very unpleasant day |
| 19:07.06 | ChipX86 | oh wow, it's 18 here. I thought it was 17 |
| 19:07.13 | Cae | it's 18 |
| 19:07.22 | ChipX86 | hmm there's different ages for male/female, male/male, and female/female |
| 19:07.23 | ChipX86 | in some states |
| 19:07.54 | ChipX86 | or countries rather |
| 19:08.24 | Cae | oh, 17 in texas |
| 19:08.24 | Cae | huh |
| 19:08.26 | ChipX86 | male/male and female/female is illegal in so many states. That makes me sad. |
| 19:08.29 | pagefault | hmm the law here says you can have sex with someone 12 if you are no older than 16 |
| 19:08.47 | Cae | ...ew |
| 19:09.27 | pagefault | otherwise 14 for older |
| 19:09.33 | pagefault | which is pasty imo |
| 19:09.36 | pagefault | but I guess the law |
| 19:10.19 | pagefault | what two consenting people do is their own business though |
| 19:10.56 | Cae | as long as they consent |
| 19:10.57 | Cae | and actually know what they're doing |
| 19:10.58 | Cae | 12 year olds should not be having sex |
| 19:11.12 | ChipX86 | I can see setting an age limit for certain ages, but I find it odd that it's apparently not illegal in so many places for two underage people to have sex |
| 19:11.24 | ChipX86 | I also find it ridiculous that so many places make it illegal for two men or two women to have sex |
| 19:11.32 | ChipX86 | that's not something the state should even care about |
| 19:11.32 | pagefault | the government shouldn't have any business in the bedroom |
| 19:11.36 | Cae | they're called evangelicals |
| 19:11.38 | ChipX86 | it's not like there's a pregnancy issue |
| 19:12.06 | ChipX86 | and even if they adopted, why do they think it's going to "corrupt" (god I hate that) the minds of the children? |
| 19:12.21 | pagefault | there is a huge influx of mail from the US here of people opposing the bill that legalized same sex marriage |
| 19:12.46 | ChipX86 | same sex marriage should be legal |
| 19:12.58 | ChipX86 | kergoth: you'll just end up hating that place too. There is no perfect place to live in this world |
| 19:12.58 | pagefault | but our government basically told them to fuck off |
| 19:13.11 | pagefault | which is the way I feel |
| 19:13.14 | pagefault | do what you want in your own country |
| 19:13.53 | pagefault | it's not like being gay is anything new |
| 19:14.25 | ChipX86 | any time I'm with my grandpa, he talks about "the dykes" and how they ruined america |
| 19:14.37 | ChipX86 | and how Palo Alto isn't a very great place because it's a swamp with dykes |
| 19:14.37 | pagefault | people are just ignorant and afraid of change |
| 19:14.48 | pagefault | and they don't want to admit it |
| 19:15.13 | ChipX86 | I'm like, "Please stop talking about that. You have no idea how many of my friends you're offending," and thne of course he says I shouldn't be friends with such people. *grr* |
| 19:15.55 | Cae | hehe |
| 19:16.06 | pagefault | just remind him that one of the great things about living in a democracy is that you don't have to listen to what he has to say |
| 19:16.06 | pagefault | :) |
| 19:17.07 | ChipX86 | haha you don't know my grandpa |
| 19:17.16 | ChipX86 | he's always lived in his own little screwed up misinformed world |
| 19:17.23 | ChipX86 | but he thinks his world is the world everybody lived in |
| 19:17.36 | pagefault | I still wonder how some of the US states got so screwed up |
| 19:18.05 | ChipX86 | he grew up with a abusive father, ran away at 15, lived most of his life in a little town in the middle of nowhere, and tells us that his life was the average life of everybody and it was perfect, and we're screwed up in this generation |
| 19:18.19 | ChipX86 | my dad and I are the only people on the internet who aren't stalkers and rapists, he says :P |
| 19:18.21 | darth_mall | mmm... Gorillaz is calming me down |
| 19:18.38 | ChipX86 | :) |
| 19:18.47 | pagefault | haha |
| 19:18.55 | pagefault | he's messe dup |
| 19:19.25 | darth_mall | who? me? |
| 19:19.45 | ChipX86 | my grandpa I imagine |
| 19:20.21 | ChipX86 | also, there are four genres of music in the world. Old country (everybody back then loved it, and only that, and nothing since is good, and also, my grandpa claims they invented music in his generation and got it right then) |
| 19:20.37 | ChipX86 | rock and roll, new country (which he claims is also rock and roll), and rap |
| 19:20.47 | file[laptop] | ya know there's drugs to help him... |
| 19:20.57 | TD | they're usually fatal, though |
| 19:21.00 | ChipX86 | heh |
| 19:21.09 | ChipX86 | it amuses me to talk about it, but the phone calls are painful |
| 19:21.14 | TD | i bet |
| 19:21.21 | TD | we had a housekeeper/babysitter like that once |
| 19:21.31 | TD | she was perfectly normal but had a weird thing about homosexuals |
| 19:21.44 | TD | when she found out an old friend of mine, tim, was gay, she thought "old men had persuaded him" |
| 19:21.50 | ChipX86 | wtf |
| 19:21.53 | ChipX86 | I don't get that |
| 19:21.53 | TD | or some such nonsense. she thought somebody had made him that way |
| 19:21.54 | numist | I have a weird thing about homosexuals.. I have sex with them |
| 19:22.06 | numist | oh wait |
| 19:22.09 | ChipX86 | huh? |
| 19:22.13 | ChipX86 | don't you have a girlfriend? |
| 19:22.18 | numist | oh right |
| 19:22.20 | numist | nevermind |
| 19:22.36 | kergoth | everybody wants to be just like me, i'm naked and famous! |
| 19:22.45 | ChipX86 | :D |
| 19:23.01 | ChipX86 | not me. Deadlines |
| 19:23.09 | kergoth | ChipX86: my bro wanted a name for his new char on suramar. i told him to name him NakedNFamous :) |
| 19:23.13 | kergoth | booored |
| 19:23.34 | darth_mall | http://www.scarygoround.com/?date=20031117 |
| 19:24.04 | pagefault | ChipX86, you should go gay and show up at his house |
| 19:24.15 | ChipX86 | I quite like my girlfriend |
| 19:24.17 | darth_mall | that sounds like a great idea! |
| 19:24.28 | darth_mall | let's all do that |
| 19:24.37 | pagefault | ChipX86, hehe yeah I know but does he? |
| 19:24.40 | ChipX86 | o/~ Nobody loves you more than they ought to. Nobody cares what you think. o/~ |
| 19:24.46 | darth_mall | what possible good could come of something like that? |
| 19:25.11 | kergoth | darth_mall: seen this week's QC's? |
| 19:25.40 | darth_mall | this week's? there's a new one every day |
| 19:25.42 | darth_mall | but yeah |
| 19:25.54 | kergoth | hence the plural "QC's" |
| 19:26.09 | darth_mall | ah... missed that |
| 19:26.12 | kergoth | :) |
| 19:26.34 | kergoth | i loved the anthropc breaking out into song when faye comes out |
| 19:26.49 | darth_mall | heh... pintsize is cool |
| 19:27.04 | kergoth | yep |
| 19:28.11 | darth_mall | kergoth: seen this? http://www.questionablecontent.net/images/fanart/ajay.jpg |
| 19:28.31 | kergoth | haha, nice |
| 19:29.35 | numist | :( |
| 19:29.41 | kergoth | :( |
| 19:30.06 | numist | so much for 99.999 |
| 19:30.06 | numist | :/ |
| 19:30.22 | ChipX86 | hah wow, broadcast flag was shot down again |
| 19:37.02 | TD | people keep voting autopackage down at gnomefiles :( |
| 19:37.08 | ChipX86 | wtf |
| 19:38.14 | TD | rpm/deb True Believers i guess |
| 19:38.17 | ChipX86 | ugh |
| 19:38.20 | TD | they certainly post enough crap to the comments section |
| 19:38.34 | *** topic/#tacobeam by darth_mall -> Did you know that lollygagging promotes communism and causes sterility? |
| 19:38.37 | ChipX86 | they're the same people who complain about everything else. Ignore the idiots |
| 19:39.28 | ChipX86 | yay |
| 19:39.31 | ChipX86 | lookie at pgo |
| 19:39.47 | ChipX86 | TD: that excites me :) |
| 19:40.48 | ChipX86 | and wow, Eugenia resigned from osnews |
| 19:41.29 | TD | niceness |
| 19:41.30 | TD | and yeah, i saw |
| 19:41.44 | TD | too bad davyds screenshot doesn't expand to 1:1 size :) |
| 19:41.51 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 19:43.10 | TD | the little icons are a bit ugly tho |
| 19:43.14 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 19:43.18 | TD | i thought the default big lightbulb was nicer |
| 19:43.28 | TD | ohh i bet they're the gossip default icons |
| 19:43.36 | ChipX86 | they are |
| 19:43.42 | numist | ChipX86: roadrunners routing is all fuxored |
| 19:43.46 | numist | DAMN |
| 19:43.47 | ChipX86 | numist: ugh |
| 19:43.49 | numist | yeah |
| 19:43.57 | numist | isnt the internet supposed to be able to handle these sorts of things? |
| 19:44.04 | numist | no one on the east coast or internationally cna reach me |
| 19:44.05 | darth_mall | the internet is magic! |
| 19:44.19 | numist | ? |
| 19:44.19 | darth_mall | go go gadget-arms! |
| 19:44.22 | ChipX86 | numist: in theory. In practice, no |
| 19:44.23 | numist | bah |
| 19:44.30 | numist | ChipX86: har, har, bar |
| 19:44.47 | ChipX86 | this is such an angry star trek song |
| 19:44.57 | numist | I sudenly wish I had the ability to tunnel my connection through joplin.ucsd.edu (my uni shell on gigabit) |
| 19:46.24 | ChipX86 | this actually has no relation to star trek that I can see except for "Spock" in the lyrics toward the end of the song, and the title "Vulcan" |
| 19:46.42 | ChipX86 | http://www.stlyrics.com/songs/s/snakeriverconspiracy9776/vulcan477639.html |
| 19:46.48 | TD | ChipX86: how hard is libnotify/gaim integration going to be? |
| 19:46.51 | ChipX86 | TD: easy |
| 19:46.56 | TD | seeing as how that's the primary use case :) |
| 19:46.58 | TD | ok cool |
| 19:47.02 | ChipX86 | I msged KingAnt. He seems to be more or less in charge of gaim lately |
| 19:47.12 | ChipX86 | I don't feel right just adding a plugin without talking to him first, since I hvaen't touched gaim in ages |
| 19:47.23 | ChipX86 | but I don't think it'll be a problem |
| 19:47.28 | TD | mark doliner? |
| 19:47.29 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 19:47.33 | TD | he always seemed pretty sane |
| 19:47.35 | ChipX86 | he is |
| 19:47.37 | TD | maybe i should try pushing relaytool again |
| 19:47.42 | ChipX86 | Sean kind of stopped doing anything from my understanding |
| 19:48.04 | ChipX86 | after I left, he stopped actually doing any coding that I ever saw, and now doesn't do much beside send an e-mail from time to time |
| 19:48.25 | TD | i thought he was mauling prefs in gaim head |
| 19:48.29 | TD | but if he's gone .... good |
| 19:48.31 | ChipX86 | he did |
| 19:48.35 | ChipX86 | and he never fixed it |
| 19:48.36 | TD | paco-paco still seems to be around, but oh well :) |
| 19:48.38 | ChipX86 | but he's not gone :/ |
| 19:48.38 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 19:48.38 | TD | hah, great |
| 19:48.54 | ChipX86 | heh I had a dream last night that Paco-Paco joined #galago and started promoting galago everywhere and integrated it directly into gaim |
| 19:48.58 | ChipX86 | didn't remember that until you said his name |
| 19:49.03 | TD | lol |
| 19:49.05 | TD | scary |
| 19:49.24 | ChipX86 | I used to be somewhat friends with the guy, and with Sean, until they fed off each other and grew to be huge assholes |
| 19:52.33 | darth_mall | huge like me? |
| 19:57.17 | Cae | what is the debian package for flash? |
| 19:58.16 | Cae | nm |
| 20:00.08 | ChipX86 | TD: oh, did I tell you that jdub wanted me to merge galago-daemon into evolution-data-server? |
| 20:08.23 | darth_mall | ChipX86: how come? |
| 20:08.45 | darth_mall | maybe I don't have a good grasp on what galago is for, but that seems a little crazy to m |
| 20:08.46 | ChipX86 | jdub hates daemons, and thinks that galago should be gnome-specific and part of evolution |
| 20:08.48 | darth_mall | e |
| 20:10.22 | darth_mall | they're all, "rar," and, "I rock" |
| 20:12.28 | darth_mall | erm... ok... thanks, I guess |
| 20:12.42 | darth_mall | work is making me cranky |
| 20:12.55 | ChipX86 | :( |
| 20:14.29 | darth_mall | hehe... ninja |
| 20:20.12 | TD | ChipX86: that's wack |
| 20:20.25 | TD | there seems to be a trend *away* from kde/gnome co-operation these days |
| 20:20.30 | TD | it's sad to see |
| 20:20.38 | ChipX86 | nod |
| 20:20.45 | ChipX86 | galago is mine |
| 20:20.52 | ChipX86 | I won't align it with anybody in particular |
| 20:20.57 | TD | good |
| 20:20.58 | ChipX86 | I'm doing gnome-specific stuff with it |
| 20:21.02 | ChipX86 | but galago itself will always be neutral |
| 20:21.14 | TD | kde vs gnome is such a mess <sigh> |
| 20:21.21 | darth_mall | this software makes jesus cry |
| 20:21.34 | TD | if all the effort that went into X million distros and kde vs gnome were spent fixing bugs and adding cool new features, maybe we'd have a better desktop by now |
| 20:21.35 | darth_mall | the people who came up with this stuff must've had downs syndrome or something |
| 20:21.39 | TD | and if horses were courses :) |
| 20:22.16 | darth_mall | TD: "if horses were courses"? |
| 20:22.20 | TD | it's just a saying |
| 20:22.26 | darth_mall | is there more to it? |
| 20:22.37 | ChipX86 | never heard that saying |
| 20:22.41 | ChipX86 | must not be a US thing |
| 20:22.46 | ChipX86 | darth_mall: :( |
| 20:23.00 | darth_mall | which is often abbreviated "if wishes were horses" |
| 20:23.02 | TD | hmmm |
| 20:23.09 | TD | google knows nothing about that saying |
| 20:23.19 | TD | i may have simply made it up without realising it :) |
| 20:23.24 | darth_mall | which is what came to mind with what you said, so I became curious ^^ |
| 20:23.29 | TD | lol |
| 20:23.35 | ChipX86 | haha |
| 20:23.39 | TD | yeah. it doesn't even make sense. i wonder where i heard it |
| 20:24.14 | TD | ChipX86: did you see the cairo/gtk theming wack? |
| 20:24.20 | TD | "caligula" ? |
| 20:24.26 | darth_mall | caligula? |
| 20:24.27 | darth_mall | hehe |
| 20:24.30 | TD | http://burtonini.com/computing/screenshots/cairo-gtk.png |
| 20:24.36 | TD | it's a new cairo based theme engine they're working on |
| 20:24.42 | TD | let's you do anything cairo can |
| 20:24.48 | ChipX86 | I think it's a neat demo, but it's ugly |
| 20:24.50 | TD | i guess it still can't animate properly tho |
| 20:25.02 | TD | oh, yeah. i don't think i'd want that as my actual desktop theme |
| 20:25.10 | darth_mall | it's called caligula? |
| 20:25.21 | TD | thats the engines name |
| 20:25.26 | darth_mall | hehe |
| 20:25.27 | darth_mall | I wonder why |
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| 20:26.22 | ChipX86 | thirsty. Need water that doesn't take over a minute to fill a glass |
| 20:26.35 | TD | haha |
| 20:26.37 | TD | "The room I'm sharing with blizzard is a bit... scary. The beds are smack dab against each other, the air conditioner doesn't really work, and its pretty hot at night, and the bathroom walls are made of glass." |
| 20:26.37 | ChipX86 | I wonder if Jahaida will actually invite me to a movie tonight |
| 20:26.43 | numist | rawk! |
| 20:26.46 | ChipX86 | TD: haha |
| 20:28.00 | darth_mall | guh |
| 20:28.21 | TD | ChipX86: jahaida? |
| 20:28.28 | TD | "You probably remember that Opera's CEO, Jon von Tetzchner, promised to swim between Norway and the US. Apparently, diving into cold waters became a way of life at bork-borking Opera. Fortunately, being ridiculous never killed anybody." |
| 20:28.30 | TD | another classic quote |
| 20:28.33 | darth_mall | there's no way that I can see for my bridge software to request the information it needs from the software it's supposed to be communicating with |
| 20:28.39 | ChipX86 | that's hte phonetical spelling. Actual spelling is Yahaira. She's the assistant apartment manager |
| 20:28.46 | darth_mall | so I have to wait for it to decide to send it to me |
| 20:29.07 | darth_mall | which translates into putting the actual registration functionality into the callback for getting data, not the callback for registering variables |
| 20:29.28 | Cae | I'm..done with this stuff..for the week..um. |
| 20:29.37 | Cae | it's wednesday. |
| 20:29.41 | ChipX86 | nice |
| 20:29.48 | darth_mall | Cae: spend the rest of the week reading webcomics |
| 20:29.49 | Cae | but now I'm bored.. |
| 20:29.57 | ChipX86 | you can test the hell out of galago |
| 20:31.33 | TD | ChipX86: why would she invite you to a movie? |
| 20:32.00 | darth_mall | TD: because he's cool |
| 20:32.05 | ChipX86 | we were going to see a movie a while back and never did, so I was pretending to guilt her |
| 20:32.15 | ChipX86 | also, I said I didn't know anybody around here, and she said she'll introduce me to her friends |
| 20:32.43 | TD | awwww |
| 20:32.49 | TD | cool |
| 20:33.07 | ChipX86 | *sigh* |
| 20:33.09 | ChipX86 | you know the New VM Wizard? |
| 20:33.43 | TD | vaguely |
| 20:34.05 | ChipX86 | I'm now able to hit Next the exact amount of times, even over VNC lag, to get to the exact page I want |
| 20:34.09 | ChipX86 | I've been working on this way too lon |
| 20:34.09 | ChipX86 | g |
| 20:34.40 | TD | heh |
| 20:35.02 | ChipX86 | hopefully the New VM Wizard Mach 2 won't break for people |
| 20:35.14 | ChipX86 | because I won't be around to fix it after Friday |
| 20:35.32 | TD | vacation? |
| 20:35.38 | ChipX86 | Disneyland with Jamie and family |
| 20:35.47 | darth_mall | yay |
| 20:35.52 | TD | nice |
| 20:36.32 | ChipX86 | which reminds me, I need to make reservations for The Blue Bayou |
| 20:41.17 | darth_mall | it seriously depresses me that this company is paid to make this kind of crap |
| 20:41.45 | ChipX86 | that was painfully easy |
| 20:45.29 | ChipX86 | hey look at that, my Disneyland Electric Parade ringtone is going to come in handy |
| 20:45.41 | ChipX86 | (and it's the full song! hard to miss) |
| 20:46.41 | TD | time to go celebrate a friends birthday. ttyl chaps |
| 20:51.20 | darth_mall | this is too stressful |
| 20:51.47 | darth_mall | since I'm being forced to give up my saturday for this damned internship I kinda figure they owe me 2 hours at least |
| 20:51.56 | *** join/#tacobeam scrumptious (~scott@numist.sustaining.supporter.pdpc) |
| 20:52.01 | ChipX86 | ooh scrumptious |
| 20:52.22 | scrumptious | hey chippy |
| 20:52.34 | file[laptop] | making me hungry... |
| 20:52.39 | numist | hehe |
| 20:55.48 | darth_mall | ChipX86: what was the name of that iAudio mp3 player you were looking at a few weeks ago? |
| 20:56.15 | ChipX86 | oh, checking |
| 20:56.22 | ChipX86 | I was thinking it was an X3 or something |
| 20:56.28 | darth_mall | x5? |
| 20:56.30 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 20:56.36 | ChipX86 | my rio is starting to skip, so I might just buy it :( |
| 20:57.03 | ChipX86 | I love the UI on the rio, but a broken wheel and skips and a cracked case and the pain of uploading things is getting to me |
| 20:58.59 | ChipX86 | darth_mall: looking to get one? |
| 20:59.40 | ChipX86 | I really like the fact that it's a usb host |
| 21:00.02 | darth_mall | since my new car only has a radio |
| 21:00.38 | ChipX86 | $300 from newegg |
| 21:00.50 | ChipX86 | the 30GB model is $350 |
| 21:01.26 | numist | oh no.. did I forget to screen first? |
| 21:01.33 | numist | I did.. GAH |
| 21:01.49 | *** join/#tacobeam numist (~scott@numist.sustaining.supporter.pdpc) |
| 21:02.02 | ChipX86 | the thing I dislike about the X5 is that there's no ID3 tag support |
| 21:02.03 | numist | fxor, thats better |
| 21:02.07 | ChipX86 | apparently anyway |
| 21:02.22 | numist | there isnt? |
| 21:02.27 | numist | thats odd |
| 21:02.29 | ChipX86 | that's what I'm reading |
| 21:02.34 | darth_mall | hmm... the iaudio is pretty cute, but it doesn't seem to have any kinds of car accessories |
| 21:02.50 | ChipX86 | hmm this is saying no gapless support |
| 21:03.05 | darth_mall | which is unfortunate, since I'm largely going to be using it in the car |
| 21:03.19 | file[laptop] | no ID3 tag support? that's odd |
| 21:03.22 | file[laptop] | it's an easy thing to implement |
| 21:03.43 | ChipX86 | going to read more |
| 21:05.12 | ChipX86 | checking firmware releases |
| 21:05.31 | CIA-8 | navi-misc: 03jeffm * r8495 10screamers/ (11 files in 4 dirs): let the world be parced |
| 21:05.39 | numist | did my commit show through yet at all? |
| 21:06.53 | ChipX86 | numist: nope |
| 21:07.05 | pagefault | I have a H10 5gb iriver |
| 21:07.26 | file[laptop] | iaudio outright says Macs and Linux work, how nice |
| 21:07.38 | pagefault | mine works in linux |
| 21:07.39 | pagefault | :) |
| 21:08.30 | ChipX86 | meh, yeah, the firmware wishlist still has gapless playback and ID3 tag databasing/browsing open |
| 21:08.45 | file[laptop] | that's rather... interesting |
| 21:09.31 | ChipX86 | I'll wait a while |
| 21:09.48 | darth_mall | ew... someone's running a very foul smelling experiment |
| 21:10.03 | file[laptop] | darth_mall: run away! it'll eat you. |
| 21:10.13 | darth_mall | no... but it smells like burning beef consomme |
| 21:11.02 | file[laptop] | let's see if I made any of the prom photos on the paper's website... |
| 21:11.17 | darth_mall | pagefault: you like your iRiver pretty well, then? |
| 21:11.36 | file[laptop] | oh god I think I did |
| 21:11.48 | darth_mall | file[laptop]: that was last night, huh? |
| 21:11.56 | file[laptop] | yes |
| 21:11.58 | darth_mall | have fun? |
| 21:12.10 | file[laptop] | yes |
| 21:12.13 | darth_mall | cool |
| 21:12.26 | darth_mall | went the year before, and actually the year after too |
| 21:12.44 | file[laptop] | I'm looking for pics... there's 90 to go through |
| 21:14.03 | numist | hrm |
| 21:15.11 | pagefault | darth_mall, yeah |
| 21:15.13 | pagefault | doesn't do ogg |
| 21:15.15 | pagefault | but it's good |
| 21:15.36 | darth_mall | really? |
| 21:15.41 | darth_mall | I was sure they had ogg support |
| 21:15.50 | pagefault | I think the bigger one does ogg |
| 21:15.53 | kergoth | it does |
| 21:16.04 | file[laptop] | I feel the net to kill this webserver |
| 21:16.06 | file[laptop] | er need |
| 21:16.24 | pagefault | brb |
| 21:16.28 | ChipX86 | kergoth: does it do gapless playback? |
| 21:16.33 | pagefault | mine odes |
| 21:16.35 | pagefault | err does |
| 21:16.39 | pagefault | with crossfading |
| 21:16.48 | darth_mall | hmm... |
| 21:16.59 | darth_mall | looks like the H340 supports ogg, but not the H10 |
| 21:17.08 | pagefault | the H340 is discontinued too |
| 21:17.17 | file[laptop] | aha maybe there isn't one of me... *cackles* |
| 21:17.40 | pagefault | anyway |
| 21:17.40 | pagefault | brb |
| 21:17.50 | ChipX86 | I imagine I'll get an X5 |
| 21:18.03 | numist | hey sweet, I see a commit |
| 21:18.04 | ChipX86 | it has everything I want except for gapless playback and ID3, and it sounds like they may owrk on that |
| 21:18.12 | darth_mall | kergoth: which one do you have? the H340? |
| 21:18.27 | kergoth | h320. smaller drive than the h340, but otherwise the same |
| 21:18.46 | darth_mall | right |
| 21:19.43 | file[laptop] | yay my graduation is tomorrow |
| 21:20.37 | darth_mall | hmm... newegg doesn't seem to have the h320 |
| 21:21.38 | numist | Im not understanding this in the CIA poster... |
| 21:21.40 | numist | (flood) |
| 21:22.01 | numist | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:22.01 | numist | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:22.01 | numist | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:22.01 | numist | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:22.01 | numist | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:22.02 | numist | (/flood) |
| 21:22.04 | numist | can someone elighten me as to how to make them do what I want? |
| 21:22.19 | numist | I thought they changed /trunk/... in the commit msg to <module> ... or something |
| 21:22.23 | numist | apparently Im deranged |
| 21:22.42 | darth_mall | try uncomment that last line |
| 21:23.00 | numist | needs the whole thing? |
| 21:23.33 | numist | I can keep flooding #commits with the same commit, thats ok :P |
| 21:23.33 | purple_cow | navi-misc has that line commented |
| 21:23.41 | numist | hrm |
| 21:23.55 | numist | maybe Im going at this wrong |
| 21:23.59 | numist | lemme try something else |
| 21:24.02 | darth_mall | actually... mine doesn't look like that |
| 21:24.08 | numist | no wait... |
| 21:24.10 | numist | hrm |
| 21:24.13 | numist | what does yours look like? |
| 21:24.16 | darth_mall | try this: |
| 21:24.22 | darth_mall | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:24.22 | darth_mall | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:24.22 | darth_mall | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:24.22 | darth_mall | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:24.22 | darth_mall | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:24.24 | darth_mall | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:25.30 | numist | 0_o |
| 21:25.49 | numist | not pathRegexes? (note the trailing s) |
| 21:26.25 | darth_mall | that's what I've got in my configuration and appears to work |
| 21:27.04 | numist | ok, lets try then |
| 21:27.25 | CIA-8 | g2bridge: 03evan * r356 10bridge/src/gsi_callbacks.cpp: |
| 21:27.25 | CIA-8 | g2bridge: Uncomment the original code using the identifying attrs. Can't get attr by name |
| 21:27.25 | CIA-8 | g2bridge: in the registration callback. Might have to do a work around by registering variables |
| 21:27.25 | CIA-8 | g2bridge: in the get_data callback. ugh. |
| 21:27.30 | darth_mall | yep... works fine |
| 21:27.37 | numist | heh |
| 21:28.04 | numist | hrm |
| 21:28.42 | numist | Im not familiar with python... whats it telling me: |
| 21:28.43 | numist | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:28.43 | numist | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:28.43 | numist | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:28.43 | numist | IndentationError: unindent does not match any outer indentation level |
| 21:29.01 | darth_mall | something's wrong with your indentation |
| 21:29.11 | darth_mall | don't use tabs, use 4 spaces |
| 21:29.14 | numist | I wasnt aware that it cared that much |
| 21:29.22 | darth_mall | that's how it determines blocks |
| 21:29.27 | darth_mall | no silly {}'s |
| 21:29.36 | numist | no tabs here |
| 21:29.39 | numist | spaces are probably wrong though |
| 21:29.59 | numist | hrm |
| 21:30.01 | darth_mall | make sure it matches whatever indentation level Micah used in that file |
| 21:30.15 | darth_mall | looks like 4 spaces to me, but I could be wrong |
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| 21:31.09 | ChipX86 | hey :) |
| 21:31.17 | spooklight | hello :) |
| 21:31.33 | ChipX86 | not in #gnome-women? |
| 21:31.44 | pagefault | I hate gnome women in WoW |
| 21:31.47 | numist | bah |
| 21:31.49 | ChipX86 | pagefault: hah |
| 21:32.02 | spooklight | ChipX86, no, i thougt it signed me in auto. |
| 21:32.06 | spooklight | guess not |
| 21:32.06 | pagefault | well actually I hate all gnomes |
| 21:32.08 | ChipX86 | hmm weird |
| 21:32.08 | pagefault | I want to kick them |
| 21:32.27 | numist | darth_mall: you sure you dont have an older version? |
| 21:32.32 | numist | AttributeError: class config has no attribute 'pathRegexes' |
| 21:32.39 | numist | ack half that |
| 21:32.49 | darth_mall | I know I saw some commits from Micah a few days ago, he may have changed that |
| 21:32.56 | numist | hrm |
| 21:32.58 | darth_mall | but I only set this up maybe 6 weeks ago |
| 21:33.08 | numist | I set this up < 60 minutes ago |
| 21:33.12 | darth_mall | ok |
| 21:33.17 | darth_mall | well, it may have changed |
| 21:33.45 | numist | hrm |
| 21:33.47 | numist | maybe |
| 21:34.04 | numist | well his built in regexes dont seem to work.. but let me test with a more proper commit |
| 21:34.08 | ChipX86 | hmm, hungry |
| 21:34.12 | ChipX86 | oh |
| 21:34.13 | darth_mall | numist: you could e-mail him |
| 21:34.16 | ChipX86 | spooklight: made reservations :) |
| 21:34.35 | spooklight | ChipX86, yay! :D |
| 21:34.41 | ChipX86 | it's for Monday the 27th at 7:40 PM |
| 21:34.45 | CIA-8 | g2bridge: 03evan * r357 10bridge/src/opto.cpp: ws |
| 21:34.52 | spooklight | ChipX86, sounds good! |
| 21:35.16 | ChipX86 | and it sounds like we're going to The Rainforest Cafe the next day for the birthday stuff |
| 21:35.42 | spooklight | ChipX86, have you been to rainforest cafe before? |
| 21:35.50 | ChipX86 | I've walked inside but never ate there |
| 21:35.56 | ChipX86 | have you? |
| 21:36.03 | spooklight | nope |
| 21:36.09 | spooklight | if i was i don't remember |
| 21:36.14 | ChipX86 | it's a really cool place |
| 21:36.20 | ChipX86 | and I need food before I die |
| 21:36.32 | spooklight | :( |
| 21:36.38 | numist | darth_mall: damn, no it aint goin |
| 21:36.49 | darth_mall | numist: e-mail scanline |
| 21:36.58 | numist | yeah, I shall |
| 21:37.16 | spooklight | ChipX86, does blue bayou have fake fireflies? |
| 21:37.22 | numist | ah hah, got it |
| 21:38.02 | ChipX86 | spooklight: dunno |
| 21:38.45 | ChipX86 | want to hop into #gnome-women? There's actually activity there today |
| 21:38.58 | spooklight | ok |
| 21:39.53 | numist | how does one get a key to edit metadata on cia.navi.cx then? |
| 21:41.03 | numist | nm, you just set it, apparently |
| 21:43.27 | darth_mall | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:43.34 | darth_mall | lol |
| 21:43.35 | darth_mall | oops |
| 21:43.51 | darth_mall | silly clicking the middle button by accident |
| 21:44.07 | CIA-8 | g2bridge: 03evan * r358 10bridge/src/ (opto.cpp opto.h): Fixed the error message when a connection fails |
| 21:44.38 | CIA-8 | g2bridge: 03evan * r359 10bridge/src/opto.cpp: Delete some debug prints |
| 21:50.57 | file[laptop] | darth_mall: great idea |
| 21:52.14 | pagefault | hahaha |
| 21:52.32 | pagefault | she had no idea she would get fired for having provocative pictures on her blog in her uniform |
| 21:52.38 | pagefault | right |
| 21:53.09 | purple_cow | yay penny lane. they refuse to serve people who are talking on their cell phones when they try to order :) |
| 21:56.04 | CIA-8 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r8496 10screamers/ (4 files in 2 dirs): rename worldParser.* to world-parser.*, to be consistent in our naming schemes |
| 22:11.23 | JeffM2501 | we have a sceeme? |
| 22:12.54 | purple_cow | so long as it's relatively consistent |
| 22:12.55 | JeffM2501 | worldParser :) |
| 22:13.50 | JeffM2501 | but it realy dosn't mater |
| 22:14.13 | JeffM2501 | I just don't phear the caps |
| 22:15.56 | purple_cow | we might as well dive in head first if we do caps |
| 22:17.06 | CIA-8 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r8497 10screamers/src/ (9 files): break everything! don't update yet, 'cuz i've got renames to do |
| 22:18.01 | CIA-8 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r8498 10screamers/include/ (6 files): more breaking! |
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| 22:25.28 | CIA-8 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r8499 10screamers/ (30 files in 2 dirs): finish renames. it all builds on lunix now, too |
| 22:25.40 | purple_cow | JeffM2501: take that! |
| 22:29.21 | CIA-8 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r8500 10screamers/ (include/World.h include/WorldParser.h src/World.cpp): ws |
| 22:29.37 | CIA-8 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r8501 10screamers/include/: quiet! |
| 22:30.23 | JeffM2501 | ohh I'm doing real work, I knew you were gonna beat me |
| 22:31.14 | purple_cow | hehe |
| 22:31.31 | purple_cow | it's gonna be a fun merge, what with all the file renames and ws changes |
| 22:31.42 | purple_cow | 'course, that prolly means i'll get to clean it up again :) |
| 22:31.55 | JeffM2501 | I'll make a copy of my code |
| 22:32.00 | JeffM2501 | get your tree |
| 22:32.04 | JeffM2501 | and just copy my changes |
| 22:32.10 | CIA-8 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r8502 10screamers/ (SConstruct src/SConscript): move include path addition to src's SConscript, rather than doing it in the root |
| 22:32.10 | JeffM2501 | since i'm in like only 2 files |
| 22:32.26 | purple_cow | ah |
| 22:32.33 | JeffM2501 | it's cleaner that way |
| 22:33.02 | JeffM2501 | for materials, you can specify an ogre mat, or specify a simple simple one |
| 22:33.11 | JeffM2501 | and I'll make it build a mat on the fly |
| 22:33.32 | JeffM2501 | for simple skin stuff, defining an ogre mat is a pain |
| 22:34.07 | purple_cow | don't the tool exporters create mat scripts? |
| 22:34.12 | purple_cow | i thought i saw that at least the blender one does |
| 22:34.59 | JeffM2501 | some do |
| 22:35.06 | JeffM2501 | but when you want to just reskin a mesh |
| 22:35.13 | JeffM2501 | same geo, just difrent image |
| 22:35.21 | JeffM2501 | for like team stuff |
| 22:35.31 | JeffM2501 | the milkshape one does too |
| 22:35.40 | JeffM2501 | I see 90% of it being done as ogre mats |
| 22:35.48 | JeffM2501 | and i'm not concnetrating on the others |
| 22:35.52 | JeffM2501 | aka, I may not even do it |
| 22:35.59 | JeffM2501 | so that code would be removed :) |
| 22:36.06 | JeffM2501 | it let me test the parser good tho :) |
| 22:39.08 | purple_cow | k |
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| 22:43.27 | purple_cow | looks like it'll be more code than it's worth to do the whole functor thing |
| 22:46.32 | kergoth | darth_mall, ChipX86, nullpuppy: my bro and I just bought a guild charter on suramar for horde. Naked And Famous :) log in with your horde chars and sign up :) |
| 22:46.55 | ChipX86 | cool |
| 22:46.55 | ChipX86 | will do |
| 22:47.50 | ChipX86 | too bad I can't sign up with Jamie's chars |
| 22:47.57 | kergoth | hehe, yeah. only one per account :\ |
| 22:49.07 | ChipX86 | kergoth: kay, where do I go? |
| 22:50.21 | kergoth | ChipX86: i'll head over to brill. in TB atm |
| 22:51.06 | JeffM2501 | dude..... return types on there own line.....?? |
| 22:51.09 | JeffM2501 | how ugly is that! |
| 22:53.02 | JeffM2501 | purple_cow, I'm confused, are we caping the first leter of a file or not? |
| 22:53.16 | JeffM2501 | ahh we are |
| 22:53.17 | JeffM2501 | ok |
| 22:55.55 | purple_cow | yeah. i didn't do it for the tinyxml stuff yet |
| 22:56.14 | purple_cow | thinking of moving that to it's own subdirectory in src/ and building a static library from it |
| 22:58.20 | JeffM2501 | I don't like the retusn on ther own line |
| 22:58.24 | JeffM2501 | don't like it at all |
| 22:58.39 | purple_cow | don't like the whats? |
| 22:58.44 | purple_cow | oh, the return types? |
| 22:58.48 | JeffM2501 | yeah |
| 22:58.53 | JeffM2501 | that's just fugly |
| 22:59.01 | JeffM2501 | and contrary to all things I've seen before |
| 22:59.40 | purple_cow | sorry, it's a habit i got into while hacking at GNOME code for the last year or so |
| 22:59.41 | ChipX86 | kergoth: poke |
| 23:00.08 | spooklight | kergoth: poke |
| 23:01.01 | JeffM2501 | I can deal with the rest tho |
| 23:01.01 | purple_cow | JeffM2501: if you want to change it, i'm ok with that, but you're doing the work for it ;) |
| 23:01.07 | JeffM2501 | yeah I will |
| 23:01.21 | JeffM2501 | fair enough compromise since yo'll have to check my spelling :) |
| 23:01.49 | kergoth | spooklight: http://hyperion.kergoth.com/share2/Audio/Pending/Incoming/Era%20-%201996%20-%20Era/ is the first one. you can just wget it, or whatever |
| 23:01.55 | kergoth | http://hyperion.kergoth.com/share2/Audio/Pending/Incoming/Era%20-%202000%20-%20Era%202/ |
| 23:01.59 | kergoth | http://hyperion.kergoth.com/share2/Audio/Pending/Incoming/Era%20-%202003%20-%20The%20Mass/ |
| 23:02.01 | kergoth | those are the 3 albums |
| 23:02.32 | Cae | what's this? |
| 23:02.39 | purple_cow | wow. who wrote these textutils comments? |
| 23:04.09 | kergoth | Cae: spooklight wanted me to look for some music by Era on ubernet. its good stuff, much like enigma |
| 23:04.11 | kergoth | heh |
| 23:04.40 | Cae | cool. |
| 23:04.57 | spooklight | kergoth, better than enigma!! |
| 23:05.01 | kergoth | hehe |
| 23:05.06 | kergoth | i need to listen to them more |
| 23:05.09 | kergoth | era, that is |
| 23:05.21 | ChipX86 | purple_cow: gaim's going to get a libnotify plugin fairly soon :D |
| 23:05.31 | kergoth | yay |
| 23:06.06 | ChipX86 | bundled with gaim |
| 23:06.11 | ChipX86 | unfortunately, there's a chance that sean will revert it |
| 23:08.53 | ChipX86 | he has this idea for notifications that he claims is better than the ones anybody else has ever done, and as such hsa prevented guifications from being bundled with gaim, but he's never written any code or even any of his ideas down |
| 23:09.03 | Cae | http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=1469&item=5591163987&rd=1 ..just read it. trust me. |
| 23:10.56 | ChipX86 | haha |
| 23:11.24 | purple_cow | yay libnotify |
| 23:12.04 | numist | omg roffle waffles |
| 23:12.25 | Cae | I'm about 2/3 down and it's funny as hell |
| 23:13.11 | CIA-8 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r8503 10screamers/include/TextUtils.h: yay, all cleaned up, and the comments actually make sense now |
| 23:13.22 | ChipX86 | kergoth: is that automatically rate-limited? |
| 23:13.38 | kergoth | ChipX86: nope, itll be consuming my upstream in its entirety, most likely |
| 23:13.44 | ChipX86 | any way to limit that from wget? |
| 23:13.51 | kergoth | not sure, would have to check the man page |
| 23:13.56 | ChipX86 | I'm not seeing it.. |
| 23:14.01 | ChipX86 | ohh! |
| 23:14.01 | ChipX86 | nm |
| 23:17.03 | Cae | LOL. team dev for this has a sense of humor :) |
| 23:17.17 | numist | 57 dollars for some waffles |
| 23:17.19 | Cae | and my changes will be checked in this evening. bwahaha. |
| 23:17.27 | Cae | yeah, isn't it crazy? |
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| 23:27.43 | CIA-8 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r8504 10screamers/src/TextUtils.cpp: second round of cleanup. now i'm not ashamed to have this file in the source tree :) |
| 23:28.07 | lurgy | purple_cow: screamers? |
| 23:28.16 | purple_cow | it looks like in general, textutils is where a lot of the current bzflag people cut their teeth :P |
| 23:28.18 | purple_cow | lurgy: yep |
| 23:28.57 | Cae | hrm. when the ATM runs out of deposit envelopes, I can just use a regular envelope and a deposit slip..right? |
| 23:29.03 | lurgy | ^_^ |
| 23:29.19 | purple_cow | deposit slip? |
| 23:29.28 | Cae | those things in the back of my checkbook |
| 23:29.45 | purple_cow | huh |
| 23:29.54 | purple_cow | i've just used normal envelopes and written the numbers on the front |
| 23:29.55 | purple_cow | worked fine |
| 23:30.07 | Cae | *shrug* then this should work too. hehe |
| 23:30.27 | purple_cow | in general, as long as they have the checks, everything else doesn't matter |
| 23:31.31 | purple_cow | wow, it feels like i'm in a QC strip. i just looked outside at the patio, and there's a goth table and an emo table |
| 23:34.53 | JeffM2501 | techincaly we are using a moded tinyXML |
| 23:35.06 | purple_cow | yeah, that's ok |
| 23:35.07 | JeffM2501 | since we don't need it's non STL crud |
| 23:35.17 | purple_cow | i'm just going to make it build as a static library |
| 23:35.22 | JeffM2501 | fair nuf |
| 23:35.31 | purple_cow | since we'll probably have the same deal with tnl |
| 23:35.33 | JeffM2501 | that's what I've allready done wiht some stuff |
| 23:36.01 | JeffM2501 | I'm putting namespaces around my stuff too |
| 23:37.27 | CIA-8 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r8505 10screamers/ (12 files in 4 dirs): make tinyxml into a static library |
| 23:39.30 | CIA-8 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r8506 10screamers/ (SConstruct src/SConscript): better way to handle the include paths, now that i know about # |
| 23:40.26 | darth_mall | grrr... fucki'n flash |
| 23:41.07 | purple_cow | ;) |
| 23:43.23 | *** join/#tacobeam sbahra (~samy@212.76.82.142) |
| 23:43.33 | purple_cow | that's a lot of assholes |
| 23:44.41 | CIA-8 | navi-misc: 03jeffm * r8507 10screamers/ (14 files in 4 dirs): |
| 23:44.41 | CIA-8 | navi-misc: update to new files and stuff |
| 23:44.41 | CIA-8 | navi-misc: make style be more consistent and less ugly |
| 23:44.41 | CIA-8 | navi-misc: put tinyXML in common.lib |
| 23:44.51 | ChipX86 | two new #galago pepole today. Huh. |
| 23:47.30 | darth_mall | purple_cow: it is |
| 23:47.35 | darth_mall | and they all deserve it |
| 23:47.50 | darth_mall | I mean, Ajay's an art student for christ's sake, and even he knows better |
| 23:48.18 | darth_mall | you seriously can not to get any information about the iAudio X5 from the iAudio web page without having flash installed |
| 23:48.39 | Cae | I hate flash |
| 23:48.44 | Cae | it's disgusting |
| 23:48.49 | darth_mall | I don't hate it, I just hate how much people use it |
| 23:48.54 | Cae | well..yeah |
| 23:49.02 | darth_mall | and the fact that I can't seem to get it working on this machine makes my life much harder |
| 23:49.12 | Cae | I hate sites that don't have an alternate version of themselves that contains no flash |
| 23:49.36 | darth_mall | yep |
| 23:49.43 | darth_mall | makes me wanna go all stabbity stab |
| 23:49.52 | Cae | about five minutes and it's time for me to leave. |
| 23:52.01 | darth_mall | yay leave! |
| 23:53.08 | Cae | I'm staying three hours late cause I'm not working on friday |
| 23:53.51 | CIA-8 | navi-misc: 03jeffm * r8508 10screamers/data/maps/test.xml: make the sample map something more like a real map |
| 23:57.36 | Cae | okay, I'm off, have fun guys |
