| 00:01.17 | darth_mall | purple_cow: I got one too |
| 00:01.28 | kergoth | ChipX86: whatd you need help with? |
| 00:01.42 | ChipX86 | just surviving a "take the guy back to a location" part |
| 00:01.46 | ChipX86 | I get killed pretty fast |
| 00:02.14 | kergoth | ah |
| 00:03.33 | purple_cow | <FireRabbit> chrish01, i wonder if there might be a better name than "Mono Documentation Library" if we really want to stress that this can be used for any project, rather than just mono? |
| 00:03.33 | purple_cow | <chrish01> hmm |
| 00:03.33 | purple_cow | <chrish01> seems to me its more Documentation Labyrenth |
| 00:03.33 | purple_cow | <robl^> "that documentation tool thing"? |
| 00:03.33 | purple_cow | <latexer> only if it has David Bowie in tight pants. |
| 00:04.10 | darth_mall | mmmm... David Bowie |
| 00:04.35 | purple_cow | huh |
| 00:04.37 | ChipX86 | someone on WoW asked how I died. I responded, "spoiled milk" |
| 00:04.41 | purple_cow | where the hell is the "porter" building on campus? |
| 00:10.50 | darth_mall | purple_cow: what are you going there for? |
| 00:11.39 | purple_cow | that's where tor's office is |
| 00:11.56 | purple_cow | and he's offered me a bottle of mead that he made in '98, since i've never had mead before :) |
| 00:13.43 | purple_cow | (there was some discussion of the subject on the moo a few days ago) |
| 00:17.03 | darth_mall | oooh |
| 00:17.12 | darth_mall | a whole bottle? |
| 00:18.10 | purple_cow | yep |
| 00:18.20 | purple_cow | apparently he's got about 3 cases of that particular vintage |
| 00:18.29 | purple_cow | plus he's a really nice guy :) |
| 00:19.18 | ChipX86 | I should figure out what kind of credit card I should get |
| 00:20.10 | kergoth | ChipX86: lopert has never been to the wetlands or anything. i'm on an autotravel route to the wetlands dock. 6,700 yards. 22 minute ETA. |
| 00:20.15 | kergoth | heh :) |
| 00:20.19 | ChipX86 | haha |
| 00:20.19 | ChipX86 | ok |
| 00:24.54 | darth_mall | purple_cow: cool, I'd like to try some too, if that's alright |
| 00:24.57 | darth_mall | never had any either |
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| 00:26.14 | purple_cow | darth_mall: of course |
| 00:26.36 | darth_mall | lovely |
| 00:26.46 | ChipX86 | hmm, $65 annual fee for this credit card, but you get 6,000 bonus OnePass miles every time you pay the annual fee |
| 00:27.02 | darth_mall | I just went for one from my bank |
| 00:27.14 | darth_mall | since I don't really use it much, I just got it get a credit rating gowing |
| 00:27.29 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 00:27.36 | darth_mall | it's nice having it from my bank |
| 00:27.36 | ChipX86 | did that already.. now I want a card where I get some kind of perks |
| 00:27.51 | darth_mall | paying it off is as easy as getting on the website and transferring money from one of my accounts |
| 00:28.05 | ChipX86 | the airline "miles" thing is a joke though |
| 00:28.16 | ChipX86 | you need to spend like $100,000 to get a free plane ticket |
| 00:29.24 | darth_mall | that's one of those things that really adds up over time |
| 00:29.31 | darth_mall | I think my dad gets free miles on his Discover card |
| 00:29.37 | lurgy | yay free |
| 00:29.46 | ChipX86 | http://www.creditcardsatchase.com/portal/index.jsp?pgTitle=pg_card_features&card=contplat |
| 00:29.55 | purple_cow | my parents get miles from their credit cards, but i'm sure it's insignificant compared to my dad's actual miles |
| 00:29.56 | darth_mall | that plus the frequent flier miles he gets from all the business trips has gotten mom a couple of free tickets for vacations |
| 00:29.57 | ChipX86 | considering that |
| 00:30.02 | ChipX86 | nice |
| 00:30.06 | darth_mall | like the trip to Puerto Rico a few years ago |
| 00:30.29 | darth_mall | dad was flying for business, so NREL paid his bill, the upgrade to a 2 person room was free, and mom's ticket was paid for with his frequent flier miles ^^ |
| 00:30.39 | darth_mall | I believe that was actually their 20th anniversary |
| 00:31.04 | ChipX86 | very cool |
| 00:31.14 | darth_mall | yep |
| 00:31.20 | darth_mall | I was pleased, since they never got a honeymoon |
| 00:33.52 | ChipX86 | hahaha |
| 00:34.17 | ChipX86 | so according to Continental Airlines, if I want to go from San Jose to Sacramento, I must take a flight from San Jose to Houston, TX, and then from there to Sacramento |
| 00:34.40 | TD | hmmm |
| 00:34.43 | TD | in a way this is pretty |
| 00:34.43 | TD | http://bylands.dur.ac.uk/~mh/doh-manager.png |
| 00:34.47 | TD | and in another way it's broken as hell |
| 00:35.19 | ChipX86 | it's weird seeing IE in the panel |
| 00:35.27 | TD | you get used to it ;) |
| 00:35.30 | TD | it's convenient for testing websites |
| 00:35.37 | TD | i find i don't need it as often as i used to though |
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| 00:42.31 | file[desk] | airlines are fun |
| 00:48.08 | CIA-11 | autopackage: 03mike * 10autopackage/main/TODO: update TODO |
| 01:08.59 | ChipX86 | grrr |
| 01:09.05 | ChipX86 | wireless isn't working |
| 01:09.37 | ChipX86 | oh now it works |
| 01:10.02 | ChipX86 | hah, now it works |
| 01:11.25 | ChipX86 | me too |
| 01:32.39 | lurgy | hmm |
| 01:33.05 | lurgy | buck rodgers seems like one o' those shows where they amplify the saliva noises when buck and one of his young ladies are in the same room |
| 01:37.22 | lurgy | rofl |
| 01:37.34 | lurgy | "captain christopher pike, please report to the veterans' desk.." |
| 01:39.24 | ChipX86 | questing alone is boring. |
| 01:42.26 | kergoth | ChipX86: back from bringing my bro home if you want to play some |
| 01:43.04 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 01:43.17 | ChipX86 | I need a char that's in the ashenvaleish area |
| 01:45.19 | kergoth | kinda weird how my characters vary on mood. not in hte mood to play a hunter, now i'm all into this mage |
| 01:45.21 | kergoth | heh :) |
| 01:48.29 | darth_mall | lurgy: dunno, maybe |
| 01:53.18 | kergoth | okay, hyperion problems werent due to heat |
| 01:53.23 | kergoth | it crashed |
| 01:53.26 | kergoth | so we went into the bios and fucked around |
| 01:53.28 | kergoth | disabled ACPI |
| 01:53.34 | kergoth | started copying files, boom, crashed in record time |
| 01:53.39 | kergoth | damn conflicts :) |
| 02:30.05 | ChipX86 | kergoth: I hate windows |
| 02:30.38 | kergoth | :\ |
| 02:30.58 | ChipX86 | the whole box locked |
| 02:31.18 | ChipX86 | I heard a horrible "clank clank" sound and got worried, but it was just one of WoW's sound effects looping |
| 02:31.20 | kergoth | ouch |
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| 03:07.32 | zak | purple_cow: i know it would take forever for me to download dr.who 10 from you, but...the torrent on mininova failed twice for me |
| 03:07.38 | zak | and i really want to see it |
| 03:07.52 | zak | but could i do it anyway? |
| 03:21.09 | darth_mall | he aren't around |
| 03:23.59 | zak | hmm |
| 03:24.02 | zak | oh well |
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| 03:25.51 | darth_mall | shit |
| 03:25.59 | darth_mall | gcc is broken on Yomiko |
| 03:26.06 | lurgy | yay |
| 03:26.26 | zak | lurgy: know you any girls needing roomies? |
| 03:26.30 | zak | julie is homeless |
| 03:26.36 | darth_mall | I'm getting that weird "C compiler can't create executables" |
| 03:26.38 | lurgy | hmm, yeah, i heard |
| 03:27.07 | lurgy | i know of a few who aren't sure yet but have tentative plans |
| 03:27.13 | darth_mall | which I fixed at work by going back to 3.4.3, which was easy with a binary distribution like ubuntu =\ |
| 03:27.28 | lurgy | so if i hear about any of those plans falling through, i'll tell her |
| 03:27.37 | lurgy | but for now no |
| 03:28.05 | zak | oh ok |
| 03:29.23 | lurgy | and one of them is that deena girl |
| 03:29.51 | lurgy | though maybe she'd be less grating on her than i, i dunno |
| 03:34.07 | zak | ummm |
| 03:34.15 | zak | knowing julie's toleration of girls.. |
| 03:34.58 | lurgy | preeeeeeeexactly |
| 03:52.34 | purple_cow | hmm |
| 03:53.34 | ChipX86 | kergoth: poke |
| 03:56.58 | purple_cow | hah, frightening |
| 03:57.00 | purple_cow | http://www.mapofspringfield.com/springfield_map.pdf |
| 03:57.45 | ChipX86 | hah |
| 04:06.32 | kergoth | ChipX86: heh, it was taking ubernet like 20 minutes to load, apparently wow was sucking up all my cpu. closed it for a bit so itd get in |
| 04:09.21 | kergoth | nullpuppy, purple_cow: fyi, hyperion is back up. after switching slots for the megaraid, it seems to be stable now |
| 04:10.34 | nullpuppy | cool |
| 04:10.55 | purple_cow | kergoth: sure i have a shell & homedir? i still can't log in |
| 04:11.07 | kergoth | yep, you have both. what's the error? |
| 04:11.16 | purple_cow | just getting permdens |
| 04:11.38 | kergoth | is Password listed as a valid auth method now? |
| 04:11.44 | purple_cow | yeah |
| 04:12.25 | purple_cow | hmm. reconfirm the username you gave me? |
| 04:12.30 | kergoth | purple_cow: when i login as you using putty (keyboard-interactive), it logs in fine. |
| 04:12.35 | kergoth | you wanted 'david' |
| 04:12.43 | purple_cow | huh, bizzare |
| 04:13.13 | purple_cow | 24.118.222.11, right? |
| 04:15.24 | kergoth | yep |
| 04:15.29 | kergoth | the dns for hyperion.kergoth.com updated to point to that |
| 04:16.18 | kergoth | Jun 5 23:11:28 localhost sshd[4123]: error: PAM: Authentication failure for david from navi.cx |
| 04:16.18 | kergoth | Jun 5 23:11:31 localhost sshd[4123]: error: PAM: Have exhasted maximum number of retries for service. for david from navi.cx |
| 04:16.18 | kergoth | Jun 5 23:11:31 localhost sshd[4123]: Failed keyboard-interactive/pam for david from ::ffff:70.57.48.59 port 43127 ssh2 |
| 04:16.18 | kergoth | Jun 5 23:11:34 localhost sshd[4123]: Failed password for david from ::ffff:70.57.48.59 port 43127 ssh2 |
| 04:16.30 | kergoth | here's the one from me: |
| 04:16.30 | kergoth | Jun 5 23:13:04 localhost sshd[4143]: Accepted password for david from ::ffff:192.168.1.101 port 3573 ssh2 |
| 04:16.30 | kergoth | Jun 5 23:13:04 localhost sshd[4145]: (pam_unix) session opened for user david by (uid=0) |
| 04:16.31 | kergoth | Jun 5 23:15:16 localhost sshd[4145]: (pam_unix) session closed for user david |
| 04:16.34 | purple_cow | huh |
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| 04:26.30 | kergoth | purple_cow: /srv/share is the usual content, /srv/share2 is the new 200, and now has all my movies from ubermovie. let me know if you need anything. |
| 04:26.53 | kergoth | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:27.02 | kergoth | (fair sized backlog now) |
| 05:16.30 | nullpuppy | http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5587827400 |
| 05:18.03 | purple_cow | hah |
| 05:19.52 | nullpuppy | dude... any of you have sa accounts? |
| 05:20.01 | nullpuppy | http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?s=92953f6ba5ed4e64873e9bd4ab61998b&threadid=1568989 |
| 05:22.31 | purple_cow | teehee |
| 05:22.33 | purple_cow | http://navi.cx/gallery/hardware/IMG_0357 |
| 05:22.46 | ChipX86 | nice :) |
| 05:24.25 | nullpuppy | http://www.uploadhouse.com/images/8101143481.jpg http://www.uploadhouse.com/images/198508683BIG3.jpg http://www.uploadhouse.com/images/265992141BIG1.jpg http://www.uploadhouse.com/images/344543304MSSUCloudShot2.jpg http://www.uploadhouse.com/images/378309140radar_joplin_storm.jpg |
| 05:25.14 | purple_cow | pretty |
| 05:26.51 | nullpuppy | yeah, they formed over joplin, mo, apparenlty the meteorologists don't know what to call them |
| 05:26.56 | ChipX86 | wow, people use tickypip and it's been ported all over the place |
| 05:27.14 | nullpuppy | neat |
| 05:27.20 | ChipX86 | it's been ported to some nokia device |
| 05:27.26 | nullpuppy | cool |
| 05:27.48 | ChipX86 | what's the UIQ? |
| 05:28.16 | ChipX86 | someone ported it to KDE.. |
| 05:29.09 | ChipX86 | .it's been ported to the Motorola A1000 |
| 05:29.23 | nullpuppy | neato |
| 05:29.32 | nullpuppy | how close is your port to gtk? |
| 05:29.44 | purple_cow | ChipX86: where's osiris-misc? |
| 05:29.49 | ChipX86 | it could be playable if I was concentrating on that and not the graphics :) |
| 05:30.01 | ChipX86 | http://osiris.chipx86.com/svn/osiris-misc |
| 05:31.14 | purple_cow | /unsafe? |
| 05:31.52 | ChipX86 | heh, copied the makefile from another project |
| 05:31.58 | ChipX86 | it's a very temporary makefile |
| 05:32.57 | CIA-11 | osiris-misc: 03chipx86 * r38 10tickypip-gtk/ (ChangeLog src/Makefile): Don't use /unsafe |
| 05:33.08 | purple_cow | hehe |
| 05:33.14 | purple_cow | the osiris web site looks a lot like flapjack's |
| 05:33.19 | ChipX86 | yep |
| 05:33.20 | ChipX86 | I stole it |
| 05:33.26 | ChipX86 | with the intention of replacing it in a few days |
| 05:33.33 | ChipX86 | but you know how those things go |
| 05:36.00 | purple_cow | yep |
| 05:36.07 | purple_cow | it's a decent sort of web page |
| 05:39.18 | CIA-11 | osiris-misc: 03chipx86 * r39 10tickypip-gtk/ (5 files in 2 dirs): Make a half-assed attempt at some kind of scaling support. It's broken. It'll all be rewritten later anyway. |
| 05:44.57 | CIA-11 | osiris-misc: 03chipx86 * r40 10tickypip-gtk/ (ChangeLog src/Board.cs src/TPLevel.cs): Rename Board.Reset to Board.Setup, and properly configure the board's actual width and height requests each time we set up the board. |
| 05:47.34 | CIA-11 | osiris-misc: 03chipx86 * r41 10tickypip-gtk/ (ChangeLog src/Board.cs): Row was column and column was Y and Y was X and X was row. Sanity being restored in 3.. 2.. 1.. |
| 05:48.13 | purple_cow | hehe |
| 05:54.37 | ChipX86 | cool, this thing keeps crashing, but if I stick a Console.WriteLine in that code block somewhere, it works fine. |
| 05:54.58 | purple_cow | awesome |
| 05:55.01 | ChipX86 | very |
| 05:55.06 | ChipX86 | that makes me happy, like a warm frog |
| 05:57.04 | purple_cow | warm frogs make you happy? =/ |
| 05:57.09 | ChipX86 | nope :( |
| 05:59.43 | nullpuppy | chippy, you need destroymornings.com buttons |
| 05:59.49 | ChipX86 | I thought I had one |
| 05:59.50 | ChipX86 | maybe not |
| 05:59.53 | rioter | being cold blooded creatures, i dont think a warm frog would be very happy |
| 05:59.54 | ChipX86 | yeah I do |
| 06:00.09 | ChipX86 | rioter: now you know my pain! |
| 06:02.42 | purple_cow | rioter: naw, being cold-blooded, i'd expect frogs to be happy warm, and *really* unhappy cold |
| 06:04.13 | nullpuppy | chip, i see stickers and bumper stickers, no buttons though :) |
| 06:05.08 | rioter | its true |
| 06:05.12 | rioter | no buttons |
| 06:05.20 | ChipX86 | damn shame |
| 06:05.23 | ChipX86 | something should be done about hta |
| 06:05.27 | ChipX86 | will they be bought? |
| 06:06.17 | nullpuppy | probably |
| 06:06.22 | nullpuppy | when i have money |
| 06:13.04 | ChipX86 | how the heck do you debug mono apps sanely |
| 06:14.05 | nullpuppy | magic |
| 06:14.43 | purple_cow | so far i've just been using print statements, but supposedly mdb is pretty god |
| 06:14.48 | purple_cow | never been able to get it to run properly for me |
| 06:17.56 | CIA-11 | osiris-misc: 03chipx86 * r42 10tickypip-gtk/ (ChangeLog src/ConnectorCell.cs): Simplify ConnectorCell's code a little bit. |
| 06:19.10 | ChipX86 | I wish the exception stuff would give me line numbers |
| 06:19.14 | ChipX86 | oh wait |
| 06:19.36 | ChipX86 | bah |
| 06:19.57 | purple_cow | forgot to compile with debug? |
| 06:20.00 | ChipX86 | ah yay! |
| 06:20.01 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 06:20.09 | purple_cow | or run with debug? |
| 06:20.18 | ChipX86 | both :) |
| 06:20.27 | ChipX86 | I haven't done a whole lot of mono stuff |
| 06:20.51 | ChipX86 | awesome, it claims it's crashing on Console.WriteLine |
| 06:21.07 | ChipX86 | with a NullReferenceException |
| 06:21.11 | ChipX86 | I screwed something up |
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| 07:00.43 | ChipX86 | I can't see how this is crashing |
| 07:02.47 | rioter | speaking of mono, has anyone used visual studio 2005? |
| 07:08.00 | nullpuppy | not yet, i do have a copy of it though |
| 07:08.49 | rioter | i think i could be in love with it hah |
| 07:08.56 | nullpuppy | lol |
| 07:09.08 | rioter | except its memory usage |
| 07:09.31 | nullpuppy | somehow, that doesn't suprise me ;) |
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| 07:21.26 | purple_cow | pictures? |
| 07:21.48 | ChipX86 | http://osiris.chipx86.com/photos/fanime/2005/dsc01987.jpg |
| 07:23.24 | purple_cow | hehe, lookit the cosplaying ChipX86! :) |
| 07:23.35 | ChipX86 | heh :) |
| 07:23.43 | ChipX86 | having a tail is fun |
| 07:23.47 | ChipX86 | I want a tail |
| 07:23.51 | purple_cow | no photos of you two together? |
| 07:23.56 | ChipX86 | yeah somehow we missed that |
| 07:24.07 | ChipX86 | people took photos of us together, but we never got one on our camera |
| 07:24.32 | purple_cow | hey look, there's someone as the police girl |
| 07:24.37 | ChipX86 | they rocked |
| 07:24.42 | ChipX86 | they were in the Der Cosplay competition |
| 07:25.08 | rioter | http://osiris.chipx86.com/photos/fanime/2005/dsc01985.jpg |
| 07:25.18 | purple_cow | hmm, a couple police girls |
| 07:25.32 | rioter | i wonder how many cops stopped her before entering the building hah |
| 07:26.02 | ChipX86 | but damn Jamie looked sexy in that |
| 07:26.41 | rioter | looks like she put her corset on backwards :P but yeah cute |
| 07:26.54 | ChipX86 | this one goes like that |
| 07:28.45 | ChipX86 | my friends like corsets. There are a number of corsets that look backwards |
| 07:29.11 | rioter | hah, she ever made you tie one? pain in the arse |
| 07:29.16 | ChipX86 | nope |
| 07:39.11 | CIA-11 | osiris-misc: 03chipx86 * r43 10tickypip-gtk/ (8 files in 2 dirs): |
| 07:39.12 | CIA-11 | osiris-misc: - Use little colored blocks for networks and servers for now. |
| 07:39.12 | CIA-11 | osiris-misc: - Make things not crash when rotating cells. |
| 07:39.12 | CIA-11 | osiris-misc: - Lots of little code cleanups. |
| 07:47.57 | CIA-11 | osiris-misc: 03chipx86 * r44 10tickypip-gtk/ (ChangeLog src/ConnectorCell.cs): Redraw the line when its active state changes. Hey, this is starting to look playable! |
| 07:49.47 | CIA-11 | osiris-misc: 03chipx86 * r45 10tickypip-gtk/ (ChangeLog src/ServerCell.cs): Remove some debug output. |
| 07:53.31 | CIA-11 | osiris-misc: 03chipx86 * r46 10tickypip-gtk/ (ChangeLog src/ConnectorCell.cs src/ServerCell.cs): Draw the connectors for the server cells correctly. |
| 07:59.03 | ChipX86 | it's so much better now |
| 08:02.27 | ChipX86 | breaking news from slashdot! Linux From Scratch! |
| 08:03.09 | nullpuppy | wow, who woulda thought of that! |
| 08:03.43 | ChipX86 | I don't know who this Zonk guy is, but he seems to be the only person working on slashdot |
| 08:04.02 | ChipX86 | I take that back. One post from CmdrTaco on the front page. Everything else is from Zonk |
| 08:21.18 | purple_cow | hehe |
| 08:21.35 | purple_cow | it seems every time i boot fembot, the disks appear in a different order |
| 08:21.50 | purple_cow | it's like a new and exciting adventure every time i want to store something in an existing directory |
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| 14:49.45 | Cae | hey..anyone remember a good way to kill a zombie that doesn't respond to kill -9 and whose parent id is now init (1), on a box I don't have root... |
| 16:07.46 | darth_mall | Cae: reboot? |
| 16:07.52 | darth_mall | that's what I usually end up doing |
| 16:09.22 | Cae | not my box, heh |
| 16:13.26 | darth_mall | you could unplug it >=) |
| 16:15.53 | kergoth | yay for hyperion not being all crashy anymore |
| 16:16.04 | Cae | it's in washington |
| 16:16.19 | Cae | hm..wait.. |
| 16:17.06 | Cae | no, it's in new york |
| 16:17.56 | Cae | wait..that can't be right.. |
| 16:17.59 | Cae | bleh. |
| 16:19.21 | Cae | the guy who owns it is in NY. I think the box is physically in beaverton though. |
| 16:20.12 | Cae | so oregon |
| 16:20.54 | Cae | though..it is on NY time. |
| 16:21.02 | Cae | either way, it is thoroughly inaccessible |
| 16:21.32 | *** join/#tacobeam JeffM2501 (~JeffM@JeffM2501.sustaining.supporter.pdpc) |
| 16:25.18 | CIA-9 | spacegrant: 03dkuester * r1397 10mck/ (6 files in 5 dirs): commit before i break everything again |
| 16:25.45 | lurgy | lalala.. |
| 16:26.10 | Cae | yay breakage |
| 16:26.36 | numist | its ready for move-in, and its going to rawk this summer |
| 16:26.49 | Cae | hehe |
| 16:27.36 | numist | everyones desks are in the previous living room... I have to break out my webcam at some point to doc the place |
| 16:38.52 | CIA-9 | spacegrant: 03dkuester * r1398 10doc/ (9 files in 9 dirs): Make pdfs available to the tex impaired masses |
| 16:39.15 | lurgy | yay breakage indeed |
| 16:40.55 | *** join/#tacobeam carpman (~carpman@66-190-76-207.dhcp.dntn.tx.charter.com) |
| 16:40.59 | carpman | yay |
| 16:47.46 | CIA-9 | spacegrant: 03dkuester * r1399 10mck/PyMCK/Ground/ (Dialogs/MainWindow.py Modules/Slippery.py): if i only had a brain.. |
| 16:48.50 | ChipX86 | TD: I see notification stuff was discussed |
| 16:49.53 | TD | not really |
| 16:49.58 | TD | we mused upon the meaning of freedesktop.org |
| 16:50.08 | TD | then i got dragged into a fullon flamewar in #staff :) |
| 16:50.27 | ChipX86 | heh |
| 17:10.04 | ChipX86|Gone | bbl |
| 17:13.47 | lurgy | hmm |
| 17:14.33 | CIA-9 | spacegrant: 03dkuester * r1402 10mck/ (3 files in 2 dirs): hook up the satellite select-o-mabob |
| 17:19.01 | CIA-9 | spacegrant: 03dkuester * r1403 10mck/PyMCK/Ground/Dialogs/SatellitePropertiesDLG.py: may as well do this non-stupidly |
| 17:56.13 | darth_mall | well... that sucked |
| 18:07.04 | kergoth | bleh |
| 18:08.22 | JeffM2501 | purple_cow, pong |
| 18:08.41 | darth_mall | JeffM2501: he's probably not going to be up for another 2 or 3 hours at least |
| 18:08.45 | JeffM2501 | ok |
| 18:08.53 | JeffM2501 | well I'm like a day late on the pong :) |
| 18:08.58 | JeffM2501 | so what's a couple more hours :) |
| 18:09.11 | darth_mall | heh |
| 18:09.30 | JeffM2501 | anyone know if there is a think like the lego mindstorms RCX that has like more outputs and inputs? |
| 18:09.37 | JeffM2501 | besides a full blown computer? |
| 18:13.16 | darth_mall | arg |
| 18:17.39 | darth_mall | mornin' ChipX86 |
| 18:22.43 | carpman | JeffM2501: PIC, AVR? |
| 18:24.49 | ChipX86 | morning |
| 18:25.12 | JeffM2501 | carpman, those are? |
| 18:25.38 | carpman | JeffM2501: Microprocessors. |
| 18:25.48 | carpman | well, mircocontrollers. |
| 18:26.03 | JeffM2501 | do they have the same kinda input/output dealies and can have code sent to them? |
| 18:26.54 | JeffM2501 | I like the mindstorms things but it's just limited on the in/out |
| 18:27.07 | JeffM2501 | but I know little about electrical engenring and making my own stuff :( |
| 18:27.20 | carpman | JeffM2501: No, these are ICs, but I doubt you will find a drop in replacement for the RCX. |
| 18:27.56 | JeffM2501 | dosn't need to be totaly drop in |
| 18:28.14 | JeffM2501 | guess I can look for premade robot controller boards or something |
| 18:28.25 | JeffM2501 | like it dosn't have to run RCX code or anything |
| 18:28.56 | JeffM2501 | mostly just pondering :) |
| 18:45.14 | ChipX86 | #vmware is amusing me |
| 18:45.25 | ChipX86 | everyone is so certain what vmware is going to do now that MacOS X will be running on intel |
| 18:47.10 | carpman | explode? |
| 18:47.42 | ChipX86 | oh kickass |
| 18:48.00 | carpman | supposedly apple is seeding 10.4.1 for intel DR tonight. |
| 18:48.10 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 18:48.20 | ChipX86 | so we just announced VMTN, which is cool. Forgot it was this week |
| 18:48.37 | carpman | to no avail, no login. NO |
| 18:49.37 | carpman | This is good timing, I've been needing to reinstall the OS on my wintel machine. |
| 18:49.45 | carpman | bye bye win. |
| 19:04.43 | TD | ChipX86: ugh |
| 19:04.50 | TD | ChipX86: we're having the same debate in codeweavers |
| 19:04.56 | TD | basically i'm the only one saying we shouldn't do a port |
| 19:05.00 | TD | <sigh> |
| 19:05.25 | numist | vmtn? |
| 19:05.49 | ChipX86 | $300 a year |
| 19:06.07 | ChipX86 | and you have access to Workstation, GSX, ESX... |
| 19:06.09 | numist | ... |
| 19:06.11 | numist | ah |
| 19:06.14 | ChipX86 | and other stuff |
| 19:33.55 | *** join/#tacobeam cheers (~rachael@206.13.39.97) |
| 19:37.12 | lurgy | hehe, what a spiffy dmesg line |
| 19:37.13 | numist | omgwtfracheybbq.com |
| 19:37.22 | lurgy | "IDE1 didn't accept speed setting. Oh, well." |
| 19:37.25 | ChipX86 | cheers!! |
| 19:37.28 | lurgy | ooh, hiya cheers! |
| 19:37.29 | ChipX86 | lurgy: haha |
| 19:42.28 | lurgy | hmm |
| 19:42.39 | lurgy | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:42.40 | lurgy | blah |
| 19:43.04 | numist | haha |
| 19:43.44 | purple_cow | heh |
| 19:44.05 | lurgy | yay, everything works perfectly, except for how there are about a hundred drive seek errors as soon as the damn thing gets to init 3 |
| 19:44.15 | numist | d'oh |
| 19:44.44 | ChipX86 | time for the food stuffs |
| 19:44.56 | cheers | eep it connected! |
| 19:45.01 | cheers | hi all :D |
| 19:45.06 | cheers | the wireless in Moscone's been hinky |
| 19:45.26 | lurgy | yay hinky |
| 19:45.30 | cheers | lol |
| 19:45.32 | cheers | how have y'all been? |
| 19:45.39 | ChipX86 | good :) |
| 19:45.43 | ChipX86 | how about you? |
| 19:45.45 | lurgy | fine, fine |
| 19:45.49 | cheers | f'ing awesome |
| 19:45.54 | cheers | I'm @ Omni |
| 19:45.56 | cheers | I'm @ WWDC |
| 19:46.13 | ChipX86 | cool |
| 19:46.16 | numist | which is depressing |
| 19:46.57 | cheers | shush numi :P |
| 19:47.04 | cheers | I thought you were being productive! |
| 19:47.08 | numist | I lied... |
| 19:47.12 | ChipX86 | I'm in my office! which is like being where you are, only not at all like that |
| 19:47.15 | numist | Ill be productive in 15 min or so |
| 19:47.21 | ChipX86 | numist: I keep telling myself that |
| 19:47.21 | cheers | lol poor Chip ;) |
| 19:47.28 | ChipX86 | cheers: you should have gone to fanime! |
| 19:47.28 | cheers | hehe |
| 19:47.42 | numist | and met jamie, right? |
| 19:47.43 | cheers | when was it? |
| 19:47.45 | ChipX86 | numist: yep |
| 19:47.49 | ChipX86 | cheers: last weekend |
| 19:47.52 | ChipX86 | well, not like yesterday last weekend |
| 19:47.53 | cheers | where? |
| 19:47.53 | ChipX86 | the weekend before |
| 19:47.55 | ChipX86 | San Jose |
| 19:48.05 | cheers | yeah, see.. the 800 mile trips a bit much |
| 19:48.07 | ChipX86 | http://osiris.chipx86.com/photos/fanime/2005/dsc01987.jpg <-- yay Jamie |
| 19:48.09 | ChipX86 | cheers: ah. |
| 19:48.19 | ChipX86 | oh that's right, you moved, right? |
| 19:48.21 | cheers | <-- in Seattle, now |
| 19:48.22 | cheers | yup |
| 19:48.26 | ChipX86 | everyone's in Seattle... |
| 19:48.28 | numist | cheers: should we tagteam chippy on friday? |
| 19:48.28 | ChipX86 | my ex just moved there |
| 19:48.54 | ChipX86 | numist: ? |
| 19:49.00 | cheers | LOL |
| 19:49.03 | cheers | sexy chip |
| 19:49.05 | numist | ChipX86: Ill be in town friday - sunday :) |
| 19:49.07 | cheers | I approve ;) |
| 19:49.12 | ChipX86 | ah |
| 19:49.16 | ChipX86 | cheers: yes she is |
| 19:49.17 | ChipX86 | :) |
| 19:49.20 | cheers | where is VMWare based? |
| 19:49.25 | ChipX86 | Palo Alto |
| 19:49.25 | cheers | are you w/in range for a visit? |
| 19:49.39 | ChipX86 | maybe |
| 19:49.44 | numist | cheers: he's within range... Ill drive ifn you dont have an auto |
| 19:49.52 | cheers | no car |
| 19:49.54 | ChipX86 | no car here |
| 19:50.00 | cheers | it's gonna be a buys week for me, though |
| 19:50.01 | numist | guess Ill play taxi then |
| 19:50.56 | cheers | we'll see.. I have a buzy week |
| 19:51.05 | numist | ok, youve got my number |
| 19:51.10 | cheers | yup |
| 19:51.11 | ChipX86 | I look so dorky in my pic |
| 19:51.12 | ChipX86 | meh |
| 19:51.15 | ChipX86 | I should never be photographed |
| 19:51.20 | cheers | you don't have mine though do you? |
| 19:51.21 | cheers | it changed |
| 19:51.37 | numist | dont think so then |
| 19:51.52 | cheers | k I'll call you soon as i get off w/ john? |
| 19:51.54 | numist | my last # for you is * 4347 |
| 19:52.00 | numist | kk |
| 19:52.12 | cheers | nope |
| 19:52.20 | numist | alrighty then |
| 19:52.22 | cheers | 206-909-8617 |
| 19:52.25 | numist | buleeted |
| 19:52.55 | numist | you trust those .co.us guys on here? |
| 19:53.00 | ChipX86 | >:) |
| 19:53.28 | numist | I wouldnt trust them with my number, especially if I was a female :P |
| 19:53.52 | hardwire | you aren't a female? |
| 19:54.00 | cheers | me, yes, |
| 19:54.02 | cheers | numi, no. |
| 19:54.08 | hardwire | listen.. I don't want you to feel grossed out or anything |
| 19:54.15 | hardwire | but that litlte chat.. that was just for shits and giggles right? |
| 19:54.37 | ChipX86 | ..? |
| 19:54.42 | numist | hehe |
| 19:54.52 | numist | actually, I quite enjoyed it |
| 19:55.05 | hardwire | heh |
| 19:55.13 | hardwire | I mean.. I am only gay if you stick it up my butt.. right? |
| 19:55.21 | cheers | numi... are you cybering as a 12 yr old girl again? |
| 19:55.22 | cheers | ;) |
| 19:55.58 | lurgy | cheers: hey, 206.. that's a seattle area code... |
| 19:56.04 | cheers | that it is lurgy |
| 19:56.10 | ChipX86 | hence the "I'm in Seattle now" |
| 19:56.19 | cheers | lol |
| 19:56.19 | lurgy | hehe |
| 19:56.20 | lurgy | yep |
| 19:56.21 | ChipX86 | silly cheers, moving further from me |
| 19:56.27 | cheers | sowwy |
| 19:56.30 | lurgy | apparenlty everyone and their dog fred were |
| 19:56.35 | cheers | but the Omni guys are really cool! |
| 19:56.42 | lurgy | scanline will be up there in a week or two |
| 19:56.45 | cheers | how could i resist the flying pterodactyl in my office, incentive? |
| 19:56.50 | lurgy | \hehe |
| 19:56.52 | lurgy | oookay |
| 19:56.57 | lurgy | time to go up and get paid to eat cookie |
| 19:56.58 | lurgy | s |
| 19:57.12 | ChipX86 | the vmware guys are cool too :~( |
| 19:57.26 | ChipX86 | they bought us like $9000 worth of pizza on wednesday |
| 19:57.58 | ChipX86 | actually, I'm sure you get a discount when you order over 300 extra-large pizzas |
| 19:57.59 | cheers | schweet |
| 19:58.03 | cheers | LOL |
| 19:58.31 | hardwire | ChipX86: 300 pizzas? |
| 19:58.39 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 19:58.45 | hardwire | anybody else here know anything about pizzas? |
| 19:58.56 | cheers | too much |
| 19:58.56 | hardwire | like.. where did they get the alien ray gun to cook them all? |
| 19:59.03 | cheers | I know it takes more like 10 to feed us here ;) |
| 19:59.10 | ChipX86 | alien ray gun? |
| 19:59.28 | hardwire | sure.. producing 300 pizzas in 3-4 hours would be almost impossible at most places |
| 19:59.35 | ChipX86 | who said it took 3-4 hours? |
| 19:59.35 | hardwire | unless you took over all of seattles pizza places |
| 19:59.41 | ChipX86 | all I'm saying is that that's how many we had |
| 19:59.53 | hardwire | I am just trying to run the logistics here |
| 19:59.56 | hardwire | that just seems intense. |
| 20:00.10 | cheers | heh |
| 20:00.13 | ChipX86 | more intense than ordering that much chicken for 1000 employees? |
| 20:00.19 | ChipX86 | or that much indian food? |
| 20:00.23 | cheers | hehe |
| 20:00.24 | hardwire | see.. thats a lot of chicken. |
| 20:00.26 | ChipX86 | yes |
| 20:00.29 | cheers | GIANT roticere cabinets!! |
| 20:00.38 | numist | so thats how you spell it... |
| 20:00.42 | ChipX86 | we're a growing company. We need to eat to grow strong |
| 20:00.45 | hardwire | I have a feeling you guys are starving poor children to starve even more :) |
| 20:00.53 | cheers | hehe |
| 20:01.00 | hardwire | whoa.. that made no sense |
| 20:01.02 | ChipX86 | the pizzas were going to africa originally? |
| 20:01.04 | cheers | what's that make us, chip? |
| 20:01.11 | ChipX86 | cheers: dunno? |
| 20:01.18 | ChipX86 | I'm so lost in this conversation |
| 20:01.29 | cheers | oh good ;) |
| 20:01.34 | hardwire | ChipX86: next time.. 5000 tacos |
| 20:01.39 | ChipX86 | we've done that |
| 20:01.45 | ChipX86 | not that many probabl |
| 20:01.46 | cheers | hear about the apple/intel schtuff? |
| 20:01.52 | ChipX86 | cheers: way too many times |
| 20:02.01 | cheers | heh |
| 20:02.01 | cheers | sorry *blush* |
| 20:02.02 | ChipX86 | and too many people want me to unveil plans, as if we've knwon about this for a long time |
| 20:02.15 | ChipX86 | :) |
| 20:02.38 | cheers | you guys just as blind-sided? |
| 20:02.53 | ChipX86 | apple keeps things a secret |
| 20:02.57 | ChipX86 | and we're not business partners |
| 20:03.25 | ChipX86 | there may have been people here who knew. I wasn't one of them |
| 20:03.32 | darth_mall | ^^ |
| 20:03.36 | ChipX86 | I'm.. I'm unloved :( |
| 20:03.37 | cheers | heh ,the mysterious smile :P |
| 20:03.40 | hardwire | whats the apple/intell stuff? |
| 20:03.45 | ChipX86 | hardwire: they had a baby |
| 20:03.52 | numist | hardwire: apple is using intel starting soon |
| 20:03.54 | numist | no more pcc |
| 20:03.56 | numist | ppc* |
| 20:04.01 | hardwire | really? |
| 20:04.09 | ChipX86 | yep |
| 20:04.11 | hardwire | thats about the freakiest thing I have ever heard. |
| 20:04.16 | purple_cow | ChipX86: well, i can't imagine vmware *not* coming out with an osx version |
| 20:04.20 | darth_mall | by the end of next year, they'll be completely switched |
| 20:04.25 | hardwire | no kidding |
| 20:04.32 | hardwire | now apple has a billion heat issues to fix |
| 20:04.38 | hardwire | lots of low latency processing |
| 20:04.44 | hardwire | all sorts of crap to deal with |
| 20:04.46 | darth_mall | heat issues? |
| 20:04.47 | hardwire | oh shit.. |
| 20:04.48 | hardwire | a bios |
| 20:04.53 | hardwire | how will they ever survive? |
| 20:05.01 | ChipX86 | purple_cow: if it's on x86, which it is, then we probably will. God knows enough of us here want it. But I must point out that I'm not speaking officially in any way |
| 20:05.08 | ChipX86 | but they're going to attempt to lock things in |
| 20:05.11 | purple_cow | ChipX86: of course |
| 20:05.13 | ChipX86 | apple-only hardware they say |
| 20:05.15 | ChipX86 | custom bios |
| 20:05.20 | hardwire | hell yeh |
| 20:05.21 | purple_cow | i'd be surprised if you knew what your execs are currently deciding |
| 20:05.22 | hardwire | thats for sure |
| 20:05.25 | darth_mall | ChipX86: we're going to hold you to this unofficial talk |
| 20:05.29 | hardwire | they going to have their own cpu socket? |
| 20:05.37 | hardwire | thats about the only way to lock things down |
| 20:05.39 | ChipX86 | nah |
| 20:05.43 | ChipX86 | they'd have a modified bios |
| 20:05.52 | ChipX86 | and the OS would require that bios |
| 20:06.13 | hardwire | ah |
| 20:06.16 | hardwire | sounds too easy |
| 20:06.27 | darth_mall | what? |
| 20:06.29 | darth_mall | that's nuts |
| 20:06.38 | darth_mall | so it won't run on any x86 machine? |
| 20:06.43 | ChipX86 | possibly not |
| 20:06.48 | purple_cow | completely nuts |
| 20:06.48 | darth_mall | pff |
| 20:06.52 | ChipX86 | who knows |
| 20:06.53 | ChipX86 | this is all new |
| 20:07.00 | darth_mall | that seems really stupid to me |
| 20:07.04 | cheers | <3 this new iBook... it's so cute! :D |
| 20:07.04 | cheers | now, if only I felt secure enough to buy one of my own |
| 20:07.12 | hardwire | heh |
| 20:07.14 | cheers | *nod* |
| 20:07.14 | cheers | I think I'm having some laggy goodness... sooo many laptops on the wireless |
| 20:07.23 | purple_cow | i can understand them restricting it to amd64/em64t, but i can't understand why they wouldn't go for the general market |
| 20:07.43 | ChipX86 | they mighjt |
| 20:07.54 | ChipX86 | from what I read, though, they want to sell their own hardware still |
| 20:07.59 | purple_cow | well, yeah |
| 20:08.09 | carpman | purple_cow: They demoed it on a p4 machine supposedly. |
| 20:08.24 | ChipX86 | but they didn't give any specs other than the cpu |
| 20:08.36 | purple_cow | but i know a *lot* of people who would run osx if the hardware wasn't so expensive |
| 20:08.48 | numist | bah, now that apple is using intel, theres no reason to buy them and preen about superior hardware |
| 20:08.50 | ChipX86 | using photos as custom icons for a photo on the nautilus desktop rocks |
| 20:08.59 | numist | I would run osx on my media machine though for sure |
| 20:09.06 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 20:09.19 | ChipX86 | wink wink, I'm sure vmware would find a way to run MacOS X in it, wink |
| 20:09.28 | numist | yeah, my roommate would put it on his shuttle |
| 20:09.30 | ChipX86 | (not official! many engineers just want it, that's all) |
| 20:09.39 | JeffM2501 | purple_cow, know if there is a think like the lego mindstorms RCX that has like more outputs and inputs? |
| 20:09.46 | purple_cow | RCX? |
| 20:10.01 | JeffM2501 | the little box that you make code for that runs the legos |
| 20:10.19 | JeffM2501 | microcontroller, some ram, and analog inputs and outputs |
| 20:10.20 | carpman | How about replicator blocks *ducks* |
| 20:10.22 | cheers | yup |
| 20:10.22 | cheers | anyone knowif this means that it's runable on any beige box? |
| 20:10.22 | cheers | lol |
| 20:10.29 | JeffM2501 | heh |
| 20:10.49 | carpman | cheers: totaly unknown. |
| 20:10.56 | ChipX86 | cheers: they say no so far |
| 20:11.00 | ChipX86 | let me try to find the quote |
| 20:11.17 | carpman | But probably, jobs said that developers would have to help, I don't know how they would without the intel port to test on |
| 20:11.38 | numist | darth_mall: it would probably run very slowly |
| 20:12.06 | ChipX86 | "Schiller said the company does not plan to let people run Mac OS X on other computer makers' hardware. "We will not allow running Mac OS X on anything other than an Apple Mac," he said." |
| 20:12.15 | carpman | and I was planing on buying a 12" powerbook |
| 20:12.17 | numist | damn |
| 20:12.37 | darth_mall | numist: probly not too slow, I just don't like it ;) |
| 20:12.41 | carpman | I might still. The thought of buying a dell... disturbs me. |
| 20:12.43 | numist | heh, ok |
| 20:12.50 | numist | carpman: thinkpad :) |
| 20:12.54 | darth_mall | carpman: look at their latitudes, they're very good |
| 20:12.54 | purple_cow | i like how they're calling them "universal binaries" instead of fat binaries |
| 20:12.55 | carpman | numist no. |
| 20:13.18 | darth_mall | is IBM still making those? I know they sold that part of the business, but have they stopped production yet? |
| 20:13.21 | carpman | darth_mall: any with a decent graphics card. |
| 20:13.29 | darth_mall | carpman: go look for yourself =P |
| 20:13.52 | purple_cow | darth_mall: they're still making them |
| 20:14.19 | carpman | darth_mall: I looked, but all there seems to be is the MASSIVE 6000m with a pci-x video card |
| 20:14.20 | purple_cow | i think a lot of that is still technically under IBM's umbrella, though they're starting to make the name "lenovo" more prevalent on their web pages |
| 20:14.32 | ChipX86 | what a crappy name |
| 20:14.34 | darth_mall | carpman: on the latitudes? |
| 20:14.48 | carpman | eh? Maybe not. |
| 20:15.46 | carpman | my child has eaten my hardware budget |
| 20:15.52 | ChipX86 | mine hasn't |
| 20:16.03 | darth_mall | mine neither |
| 20:16.10 | numist | mine has |
| 20:16.18 | ChipX86 | OUCH |
| 20:16.19 | ChipX86 | er |
| 20:16.21 | ChipX86 | caps lock |
| 20:16.23 | ChipX86 | sorry |
| 20:16.23 | darth_mall | hehe |
| 20:16.28 | darth_mall | that was kinda funny |
| 20:16.31 | carpman | no, I think caps is appropreate there |
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| 20:17.08 | ChipX86 | it was funny though |
| 20:17.10 | darth_mall | quick! everyone throw things! |
| 20:17.11 | ChipX86 | scanline! |
| 20:17.29 | darth_mall | s/things/things at scanline/ |
| 20:17.30 | scanline | hmm |
| 20:17.37 | darth_mall | let's make his IRC client more yellow |
| 20:17.39 | darth_mall | scanline: moo |
| 20:17.51 | purple_cow | yay yellow |
| 20:17.57 | darth_mall | let's all jump on the scanline-saying bandwagon! |
| 20:17.58 | darth_mall | do it now! |
| 20:18.06 | scanline | irssi confuses this terminal |
| 20:18.08 | carpman | scanlime |
| 20:18.09 | darth_mall | (I'm avoiding work as hard as I can) |
| 20:18.10 | carpman | scamline |
| 20:18.15 | carpman | damn! |
| 20:18.16 | carpman | :) |
| 20:18.20 | numist | hey scanline |
| 20:18.25 | numist | long time |
| 20:18.37 | ChipX86 | people are talking in my office and I don't understand a word of it |
| 20:18.40 | ChipX86 | I should learn French |
| 20:18.44 | numist | ew, no |
| 20:19.30 | carpman | darth_mall: wait, you have a kid? |
| 20:19.40 | numist | owie |
| 20:19.43 | darth_mall | carpman: nope, that's why my kid's not taking any of my money |
| 20:19.51 | carpman | :| |
| 20:19.53 | carpman | oh |
| 20:20.00 | darth_mall | the only children I have are in my pants still |
| 20:20.26 | carpman | darth_mall: That could have been better phrased, perhaps? |
| 20:20.33 | darth_mall | how so? |
| 20:20.45 | carpman | I dunno, just got the mental image of children in your pants. |
| 20:20.54 | scanline | hmm. i have no page up |
| 20:21.01 | numist | hehe |
| 20:21.05 | darth_mall | carpman: no, I was talking about my sperm |
| 20:21.08 | numist | lots of people said hi, thats all you missed, scanline |
| 20:21.41 | scanline | and this terminal is still confused |
| 20:21.44 | carpman | darth_mall: I know, but my brains lexical parsing isin't up to par. I'm tired from a roadtrip yesterday |
| 20:22.05 | darth_mall | ok |
| 20:22.14 | darth_mall | I can be more blatant, if that will held ^^ |
| 20:22.17 | darth_mall | s/held/help/ |
| 20:22.50 | carpman | darth_mall: no no, thats fine. |
| 20:23.08 | darth_mall | hehe... Jody's gettin' ready to drill some holes in the concrete up here |
| 20:23.14 | darth_mall | yay power tools |
| 20:23.17 | scanline | ok, that was amusing in a really useless way |
| 20:23.28 | scanline | irssi doesn't get along with MidpSSH.. or maybe it's screen |
| 20:23.32 | darth_mall | scanline: you should take your power drill back and demand one of equal or greater value that drills through concrete |
| 20:23.52 | scanline | sure |
| 20:24.58 | *** join/#tacobeam scanline_ (~micah@navi.cx) |
| 20:25.08 | scanline | ooh |
| 20:25.12 | scanline | I think it was just screen's fault |
| 20:25.25 | scanline | this is gross |
| 20:25.26 | scanline | but it works now |
| 20:25.53 | scanline_ | whee |
| 20:26.54 | carpman | hmm... latitude x1 is kinda nice |
| 20:28.03 | scanline | hi carpman |
| 20:28.24 | darth_mall | carpman: I've got the x300 and it's lovely |
| 20:29.02 | carpman | darth_mall: hows the 3d? |
| 20:29.19 | carpman | my only requirement is that it be able to run neverwinter nights. |
| 20:29.42 | numist | ok, time for me to show up at the office |
| 20:29.47 | numist | later folks |
| 20:30.22 | darth_mall | but I'm fairly confident that that could run NWN |
| 20:32.10 | *** join/#tacobeam scanline (~micah@navi.cx) |
| 20:33.07 | scanline | bah |
| 20:34.22 | scanline | no love from screen |
| 20:38.20 | carpman | hmm... the inspiron 600m has a radeon m 9000 in it. And it's cheap. I like the cheap. |
| 21:01.52 | CIA-9 | spacegrant: 03dkuester * r1405 10mck/PyMCK/Ground/ (Dialogs/MainWindow.py Modules/Dynamic.py): hmm, it's faster, easier and it works better.. |
| 21:02.50 | lurgy | worrrrrrrrrrrky |
| 21:04.27 | CIA-9 | spacegrant: 03dkuester * r1406 10mck/PyMCK/Ground/Dialogs/MainWindow.py: more love in the making-stuff-work department |
| 21:06.25 | ChipX86 | TD: ping |
| 21:06.38 | Cae | so sleepy..but must play WoW.. |
| 21:06.43 | TD | hi |
| 21:06.50 | TD | sup? |
| 21:06.50 | Cae | I need 75g more to get the next part of my elite mount quest |
| 21:06.53 | TD | oh, darn, i missed scanline |
| 21:07.12 | Cae | (and then I need another 50g..damn you blizzard..) |
| 21:07.46 | Cae | I realize it's an elite mount, and it's supposed to be hard. but the paladin elite mount is harder to get than ANY other elite mount |
| 21:09.02 | ChipX86 | TD: did you get word from vmware? |
| 21:09.13 | TD | don't think so. no emails |
| 21:09.16 | ChipX86 | ok |
| 21:09.23 | ChipX86 | there might be a problem :) |
| 21:09.25 | Cae | 350g flat out + minorish quests + uber rare diamond (pristine black - costs min. 400g and rarely drops) + quest in DM + quest in Scholo that's damn near impossible |
| 21:09.27 | TD | if they sent something by post to my home address i may not have received it yet |
| 21:09.28 | ChipX86 | my credit card just expired |
| 21:09.32 | numist | ouch |
| 21:09.33 | TD | oh, heh |
| 21:09.37 | TD | yeah mine expired last month |
| 21:09.38 | TD | pain |
| 21:09.52 | ChipX86 | the bank never sent me a new one |
| 21:09.54 | ChipX86 | I'm not thrilled about that |
| 21:10.01 | TD | that *does* suck |
| 21:10.05 | TD | i got a new chip'n'pin one, very nifty |
| 21:10.14 | ChipX86 | ? |
| 21:10.43 | Cae | the warlock one is 150g flat out + annoying strat quest + annoying other place quest + random other crap to collect, but none of it's as bad as a pristine black diamond. and they only need 3 arcanite bars. I needed 6. |
| 21:10.50 | Cae | and any other elite mount is 900g. |
| 21:11.16 | TD | chip'n'pin replaces the use of signatures for CC transactions |
| 21:11.26 | ChipX86 | Cae: how do you level so fast? I'm l19 and even that's taking forever |
| 21:11.40 | Cae | which, while a lot of money, is only money, not a suicidal 5-man run into scholomance |
| 21:11.40 | ChipX86 | am I just not playing enough? Do I really have to give up everything in my life to level faster? |
| 21:12.30 | Cae | I was playing mostly during school, when I had a crapload of free time. Also, I almost always played with Grehan and sometimes another person or two on top of that, which makes quests go really really fast. |
| 21:12.41 | Cae | But mainly, it's being in a group |
| 21:12.48 | ChipX86 | our group doesn't stay together too well... |
| 21:12.57 | ChipX86 | I need some people my level to play with |
| 21:13.34 | Cae | I could maybe play Cell with you at some point (Cellarius; 29 rogue), but right now I'm occupied with getting my elite mount |
| 21:13.41 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 21:13.43 | ChipX86 | it's okay |
| 21:13.59 | Cae | :\ |
| 21:13.59 | ChipX86 | wish Jamie could play.. |
| 21:14.06 | Cae | why can't she? |
| 21:14.06 | numist | why cant she? |
| 21:14.12 | ChipX86 | she runs linux |
| 21:14.12 | Cae | hehe |
| 21:14.20 | ChipX86 | and I don't know if I want to deal with talking her through cedega over the phone |
| 21:14.23 | numist | get her a copy of vmware :P |
| 21:14.30 | Cae | I thought some of the coloradians played on linux? |
| 21:14.30 | ChipX86 | I've yet to get WoW working in vmware |
| 21:14.36 | numist | aw |
| 21:14.46 | Cae | and maybe kergoth too? |
| 21:14.52 | ChipX86 | darth_mall moved to windows |
| 21:14.56 | Cae | or give her a windows box |
| 21:14.56 | ChipX86 | not sure about other peoples |
| 21:15.04 | Cae | out of spare components |
| 21:15.06 | ChipX86 | Cae: I can't buy her *another* compouter :/ |
| 21:15.08 | numist | was she a linux user pre-you chippy? |
| 21:15.14 | Cae | or heck, get another hard drive and put it on there |
| 21:15.15 | ChipX86 | numist: she didn't even have a computer before me |
| 21:15.19 | numist | 0_o |
| 21:15.27 | numist | how is that possible? didnt you guys meet at fanime? |
| 21:15.29 | ChipX86 | I bougth her her first computer |
| 21:15.35 | ChipX86 | numist: yeah, but she never could afford one |
| 21:15.40 | Cae | getting another hard drive wouldn't be too expensive..been some nice deals lately |
| 21:15.49 | numist | I was just wondering how you can be involved with anime without a compuer |
| 21:15.51 | Cae | and then it wouldn't try to eat linux either |
| 21:15.58 | ChipX86 | Cae: yeah |
| 21:16.05 | ChipX86 | numist: school and friends' computers |
| 21:16.10 | ChipX86 | actually, there is a family computer, but it's more of her mom's |
| 21:16.17 | ChipX86 | and her mom is *paranoid* |
| 21:16.42 | Cae | and it's also easy to switch; just use bios to disable the windows drive. it's what I do. if everything is set up and all enabled, it boots to windows. if I want linux, I go into bios and disable the windows drive, and presto. |
| 21:17.05 | ChipX86 | Cae: I have a nifty trick to get windows on the 2nd harddrive and working fine with grub |
| 21:17.07 | numist | hrm |
| 21:17.18 | numist | yeah, chainloader +1 :P |
| 21:17.23 | Cae | I never felt like bothering and went for the cheap, easy, and functional solution :) |
| 21:17.24 | ChipX86 | disable the first drive, install windows. Windows will think drive 2 is drive 1. Then use grub magic to switch the harddrives |
| 21:17.30 | ChipX86 | numist: that's not the trick :) |
| 21:17.37 | ChipX86 | you can actually make the OS think drives 1 and 2 are reversed |
| 21:17.43 | ChipX86 | so windows's boot loader will be happy |
| 21:18.02 | numist | nice |
| 21:18.12 | Cae | I have creepy hardware issues related to all of my linux drives being on cards |
| 21:18.24 | TD | oh yeah |
| 21:18.25 | TD | i had that problem |
| 21:18.33 | TD | windows wouldn't install until i disconnecte the 2nd hard disk |
| 21:18.34 | ChipX86 | I worry that if she uses windows to play WoW, she'll stop using linux |
| 21:18.34 | TD | stupid thing :) |
| 21:18.36 | Cae | so, what I do now works |
| 21:18.47 | Cae | colinux? |
| 21:18.52 | numist | hehe |
| 21:18.57 | ChipX86 | I don't want to mess with her install |
| 21:18.59 | numist | I never had a good time with colinux |
| 21:19.13 | Cae | I've never tried it. kergoth mentioned it at one point and looked kinda cool. |
| 21:19.16 | TD | ChipX86: who cares. this whole crossover/mac debate has drained my enthusiasm for this crap |
| 21:19.36 | ChipX86 | TD: it's not a "linux is better than windows!" thing |
| 21:19.43 | ChipX86 | it's a "I don't want to fix virus or spyware problems" thing |
| 21:19.44 | numist | sure it is |
| 21:19.48 | TD | same thing |
| 21:19.51 | TD | two sides of the same coin |
| 21:19.57 | Cae | well, she could have Vlad. but he'd probably find a way to behead a postal employee en route |
| 21:20.01 | numist | bah, you think she would have a problem with viruses or spyware if you left her alone with the right tools? |
| 21:20.06 | ChipX86 | she doesn't need windows for *anything* except WoW, which she can't afford anyway, so moot point |
| 21:20.14 | ChipX86 | numist: yes |
| 21:20.21 | ChipX86 | numist: because everybody does |
| 21:20.25 | ChipX86 | even wiht those tools |
| 21:20.32 | ChipX86 | numist: she's a college student? |
| 21:20.35 | numist | ChipX86: show her the tools and how to use them, and she'll be fine |
| 21:20.41 | ChipX86 | numist: the tools SUCK |
| 21:20.44 | Cae | and Vlad has crap for video anyway; is a server |
| 21:20.48 | numist | ChipX86: yeah, I was a college student until january... |
| 21:21.17 | Cae | ChipX86: my desktop still doesn't have a virus scanner on it. |
| 21:21.29 | Cae | neither do the home machines. |
| 21:21.45 | Cae | much to the networking people's disgust, the worst they have on them is about 5 cookies at any given point. |
| 21:21.51 | Cae | I like firewalls :) |
| 21:21.55 | ChipX86 | every windows box I've had the misfortune to work on in the past couple of years has ended up heavily infected with a month of being installed |
| 21:21.59 | ChipX86 | except for my own |
| 21:22.07 | ChipX86 | Cae: you and I, and the people in here, we know what to run and what not to |
| 21:22.13 | Cae | true |
| 21:22.23 | ChipX86 | the average person doesn't, and even if Jamie learned, friends like to do things to people's computers... |
| 21:22.27 | ChipX86 | "I installed kazaa for you!" |
| 21:22.33 | numist | I installed a virus scanner on my windows machine 3 days ago.. the machines been up for a year... no viruses, and 3 data logging cookies, that was it |
| 21:22.40 | Cae | Vlad, formerly known as Infinity, is the most bloodthirsty machine I've ever messed with |
| 21:22.45 | ChipX86 | she's safe right now and she actually prefers linux over windows. I'm leaving it as-is :) |
| 21:22.46 | numist | true, friends get friends in trouble |
| 21:22.57 | ChipX86 | numist: yeah but you know what not to do |
| 21:23.03 | Cae | hence the name Vlad |
| 21:23.05 | ChipX86 | you cannot compare us to the average computer users |
| 21:23.07 | ChipX86 | it doesn't work |
| 21:23.22 | ChipX86 | what is fine for us isn't necessarily fine for them |
| 21:23.26 | ChipX86 | and vice-versa |
| 21:23.52 | Cae | in fact, Vlad is responsible for the only stitches I've ever had. |
| 21:24.35 | Cae | however, that machine will run damned near anything without much complaint. |
| 21:24.43 | Cae | it just wants to eat my soul |
| 21:26.40 | Cae | ChipX86: educate her |
| 21:26.46 | numist | gotta fly, time to reinstall my machine |
| 21:26.54 | Cae | have fun, good luck |
| 21:27.08 | kergoth | bleh |
| 21:27.11 | ChipX86 | no education necessary. Windows isn't going on her box |
| 21:27.11 | Cae | because depending on the reinstall.. :) |
| 21:27.22 | ChipX86 | neither of us want it there |
| 21:27.45 | Cae | do you have two boxes capable of running WoW? |
| 21:27.51 | ChipX86 | no |
| 21:28.05 | Cae | okay, then that's not a possibility either. |
| 21:28.13 | Cae | bleh. |
| 21:28.22 | kergoth | gah |
| 21:28.33 | kergoth | thanks to lag, i fell off the SW<->IF tram in wow |
| 21:28.40 | Cae | kergoth: become a warrior and level to 60 |
| 21:29.01 | kergoth | .. why? |
| 21:29.12 | Cae | .. cause the guild needs more tanks? :) |
| 21:29.38 | Cae | right now the 3 60s are mage, paladin, priest |
| 21:29.54 | Cae | need a warrior to round that out. though I think we told Ebrek to level. |
| 21:30.12 | Cae | and then need the rotating char. rogue, druid, warlock.. |
| 21:30.52 | Cae | depending on instance |
| 21:31.00 | Cae | or second pally, etc |
| 21:31.16 | Cae | lol |
| 21:31.38 | Cae | it's okay, lurgy..just..close your eyes, and imagine stabbing Cory.. :P |
| 21:31.48 | lurgy | suddenly i'm not *SO* surprised that this whole dependency tree thing doesn't work ;) |
| 21:31.55 | lurgy | given as how debugging it will be hell on a stick |
| 21:31.56 | lurgy | hehe |
| 21:32.36 | lurgy | this is terrifying |
| 21:32.46 | Cae | hehe |
| 21:33.52 | Cae | lurgy, you must create a rogue. |
| 21:34.02 | Cae | or a warlock. |
| 21:34.15 | kergoth | Cae: hehe, i dont particularly like warriors though :P. my three chars on suramar are a rogue, a hunter, and a mage |
| 21:34.25 | Cae | hmm..level the hunter |
| 21:34.35 | Cae | and the rogue |
| 21:34.45 | Cae | well, I expect them all to be 60 by friday :P |
| 21:34.49 | kergoth | rogue is l39, hunter is l18, mage is l16 |
| 21:34.50 | kergoth | hehe, right |
| 21:35.11 | Cae | but we could use an in-guild hunter that's good. iirc, the nearest one is Toushi. |
| 21:35.18 | kergoth | my little bro's on wow now, he was saying that he wants a warrior or pally |
| 21:35.21 | kergoth | nod |
| 21:35.41 | Cae | Toushi violates my primary principle of grouping. |
| 21:35.50 | kergoth | how so? |
| 21:35.55 | Cae | never group with someone you would rather see die whenever they speak :P |
| 21:36.12 | Cae | especially when you're part-time healer, part-time off tank |
| 21:36.13 | kergoth | ah. |
| 21:36.47 | Cae | sometimes he is fine, sometimes he makes me want to strangle him. |
| 21:37.03 | Cae | as far as I know, he is actually a decent player |
| 21:37.22 | Cae | he just has no communications skills |
| 21:37.49 | ChipX86 | man these guys in a cave were pissed at kergoth's brother and I |
| 21:37.51 | Cae | so he sounds stupider than he actually is, frequently, because he can't word what he actually means |
| 21:37.58 | Cae | oh? |
| 21:38.11 | ChipX86 | we were running around in the cave attacking things. Yeah, they were higher level than us, but we were doing okay |
| 21:38.24 | ChipX86 | mostly because after we'd attack something, this whole group would follow behind us and kill the guy |
| 21:38.26 | Cae | that and I know a couple of hunters that I've partied with before, that are usually up for instance runs |
| 21:38.28 | ChipX86 | and of course get no exp |
| 21:38.33 | ChipX86 | so they started yelling at me that I was stealing |
| 21:39.03 | kergoth | hehe |
| 21:39.06 | Cae | it's pretty clear if you tag it that it's yours. what class were you on at that point? |
| 21:39.32 | kergoth | they didnt have to kill it. couldve let it kill you, then continue on their merry way. |
| 21:39.38 | kergoth | heh |
| 21:40.15 | Cae | mages and hunters get touchy about stealing sometimes because mages have lengthy cast times, which other players sometimes don't respect. and hunters have other stuff that's similar. same for warlocks. that's about the only thing I can think of |
| 21:40.46 | lurgy | Cae: a rogue, or a warlock? |
| 21:40.51 | lurgy | this sounds like WoW talk :) |
| 21:40.54 | Cae | yep |
| 21:41.02 | Cae | :P |
| 21:41.05 | lurgy | not this time |
| 21:41.23 | ChipX86 | er back |
| 21:41.45 | darth_mall | lurgy: you know you wanna play too |
| 21:41.45 | ChipX86 | so yeah, they were saying that we were taking their exp by hittin things and then making them kill them |
| 21:42.03 | Cae | mages take a while to open, and it's a pain for them if someone hits what they're going after. though normally there are multiple paths through caves to where they'd just move away on a different one |
| 21:42.04 | ChipX86 | I was like, "We got here the same time you did, and you're attacking our targets. I'm here alone because my party died, so back off." |
| 21:42.22 | Cae | heh |
| 21:42.41 | darth_mall | you should just kill them all |
| 21:42.59 | kergoth | Cae: well, theres no reason the mage cant use a wand to tag it and continue from there..? |
| 21:43.07 | ChipX86 | it was in a way amusing |
| 21:43.18 | ChipX86 | like in this one part, I was alone, hit an enemy, and it came after me |
| 21:43.26 | darth_mall | my solution is to ignore them |
| 21:43.27 | ChipX86 | then they came up from behind, killed it, and yelled at me for making them do that :) |
| 21:43.32 | Cae | oh yeah, if you run across anyone who's particularly annoying, or particularly good, write their name down and maybe a note of why they're bad/good (repeatedly tagging what you're clearly targeting when other targets are available, etc) |
| 21:43.40 | ChipX86 | darth_mall: it was too funny to ignore |
| 21:43.48 | darth_mall | and Rib |
| 21:43.51 | darth_mall | cuz Rib gives me bags |
| 21:44.32 | Cae | kergoth: no; mages are squishy. the first spell they send off needs to cause as much damage as possible generally, so they die faster. then they usually frost nova them or stun the target, move away, and cast again, and continue in that pattern |
| 21:44.46 | kergoth | nod, true |
| 21:45.04 | Cae | wanding it instantly grabs the tag, but then they've got something hitting them while they're casting |
| 21:45.23 | Cae | and they don't have much hp, and very little ability to kill something by hitting it, normally |
| 21:46.19 | kergoth | that was a bit odd. i tried to jump onto the tram while it was moving, and somehow landed in mid air. |
| 21:46.23 | kergoth | http://kergoth.com/images/wow_sshot22.jpg |
| 21:47.48 | Cae | so it's better for them to open with a lengthy cast that does a crapload of damage, and then move to shorter casts to kill it. which is why they get pissed when someone hits what they've been casting at - especially if it's at the last second where they can't interrupt. then the other person gets the tag, and it hates the mage, who then has to kill it or die. |
| 21:48.12 | Cae | anyway, home. have fun |
| 21:51.01 | darth_mall | lurgy: pooty! |
| 21:51.48 | CIA-9 | spacegrant: 03dkuester * r1407 10mck/PyMCK/Ground/Dialogs/ (ApplyDLG.py MainWindow.py): from dan, to cory.. hmm, i wonder what i changed in ApplyDLG.py |
| 21:52.30 | kergoth | hmmmm |
| 21:52.35 | kergoth | i havent gotten much done today |
| 21:52.42 | lurgy | darth_mall: taco |
| 21:52.51 | darth_mall | lurgy: beeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaans |
| 21:55.37 | CIA-9 | spacegrant: 03dkuester * r1408 10mck/PyMCK/Ground/Dialogs/MainWindow.py: STEALTH COMMIT! POW! |
| 22:00.13 | darth_mall | hehe |
| 22:00.16 | darth_mall | best commit message today |
| 22:00.34 | kergoth | that was awfully stealthy |
| 22:02.47 | darth_mall | kergoth: you should get a job selling underwear |
| 22:04.03 | kergoth | good idea |
| 22:04.40 | ChipX86 | Vandelay Industries |
| 22:04.52 | CIA-9 | g2bridge: 03evan * r265 10/src/ (config.cpp config.h main.cpp): |
| 22:04.52 | CIA-9 | g2bridge: Well, everything compiles again. It doesn't segfault, but it does appear to get |
| 22:04.52 | CIA-9 | g2bridge: stuck in a loop. Unfortunately, it's not the kind of loop I want to be stuck in. |
| 22:04.58 | ChipX86 | you can be a latex salesman |
| 22:06.45 | darth_mall | hehe... poor God |
| 22:07.04 | darth_mall | did anyone else just think of the typesetting program when ChipX86 said that? |
| 22:07.19 | ChipX86 | :) |
| 22:07.50 | darth_mall | the world of computers has completely broken me, I no longer interpret the words `latex' or `gnome' correctly (nor do I pronounce them correctly) |
| 22:09.44 | TD | lol |
| 22:10.04 | ChipX86 | so have you all seen VMTN yet? :) |
| 22:10.12 | darth_mall | vmtn? |
| 22:10.16 | ChipX86 | vmtn.net |
| 22:10.32 | ChipX86 | basically, $300 a year and you get access to every one of our products |
| 22:10.40 | ChipX86 | for development purposes, I think |
| 22:10.48 | TD | nice |
| 22:10.50 | kergoth | apparently after i pay the movers, i'll have a grand total of like $200 in my bank accounts, with no inbound cash flow, and a car payment due in a week |
| 22:10.51 | kergoth | whee |
| 22:10.51 | ChipX86 | and we'll have a free VM center |
| 22:11.02 | ChipX86 | with pre-built VMs for products like MySQL, and distros like NLD and Red Hat |
| 22:11.10 | darth_mall | ChipX86: is that like a place you can leave your kids while you shop? |
| 22:11.17 | ChipX86 | darth_mall: not only can you, but you must! |
| 22:11.34 | darth_mall | well, it's a good thing that: a) I trust you and b) I don't have any kids |
| 22:11.56 | ChipX86 | http://www.vmware.com/products/vplatform/vmtn_features.html |
| 22:12.22 | darth_mall | wait... how can this thing be getting caught in a loop... |
| 22:13.34 | darth_mall | oh... that reminds me |
| 22:16.31 | CIA-9 | g2bridge: 03evan * r266 10/src/config.cpp: |
| 22:16.31 | CIA-9 | g2bridge: It helps to close if blocks. Now the config stuff mostly works! Just have to teach |
| 22:16.31 | CIA-9 | g2bridge: it to ignore ws. |
| 22:16.42 | TD | ChipX86: i just explained what an API is to a geologist |
| 22:16.43 | TD | hrm .... |
| 22:16.46 | ChipX86 | heh |
| 22:17.19 | ChipX86 | wikinate it |
| 22:17.30 | ChipX86 | we should have a tacobeam wiki! |
| 22:17.36 | darth_mall | wiki owns you! |
| 22:17.36 | lurgy | "Short answer: an API is an Automated Potato Inductor" |
| 22:17.41 | ChipX86 | :D |
| 22:17.46 | darth_mall | lurgy: is that what they make clocks out of? |
| 22:20.52 | purple_cow | guh |
| 22:20.54 | purple_cow | i wish micah would have actually listened when i asked him to turn off fembot (and more importantly, the disks) when not in use |
| 22:21.27 | darth_mall | pfff |
| 22:21.29 | darth_mall | don't be silly |
| 22:21.33 | darth_mall | listening is for chumps |
| 22:21.37 | darth_mall | and heat is good for disks |
| 22:21.54 | darth_mall | in fact, why aren't you keeping them in the oven and leaving the oven on all the time? |
| 22:21.56 | ChipX86 | why do they get that hot? |
| 22:22.26 | darth_mall | hmm... is regex.h part of some standard C library? |
| 22:24.01 | CIA-9 | g2bridge: 03evan * r267 10/src/config.cpp: Gonna try this on another computer now, to make sure it still works. |
| 22:26.15 | purple_cow | ChipX86: i dunno. i was pretty surprised at how much heat they put out |
| 22:26.29 | ChipX86 | hmm |
| 22:27.01 | ChipX86 | mine get hot too, but it's never been a problem, and aside from hardware upgrades, power outages, and moving to palo alto, they haven't been off in a couple years |
| 22:27.08 | ChipX86 | well, some are newer than that too |
| 22:27.28 | purple_cow | how hot? |
| 22:27.56 | ChipX86 | not enough to hurt if you touch it, but they're warm |
| 22:28.13 | ChipX86 | they're also all pretty much stacked in the drive bays in my little box |
| 22:28.32 | purple_cow | i suppose these are probably about the same |
| 22:29.05 | ChipX86 | can you stick a fan nearby? |
| 22:29.19 | purple_cow | yeah, i have a plan for that |
| 22:29.28 | purple_cow | but until i actually do it, i'd prefer that they weren't on when not in use :P |
| 22:29.31 | ChipX86 | nod |
| 22:29.47 | ChipX86 | I personally never trust a HD for the first month :) |
| 22:30.05 | ChipX86 | I'll put stuff on them but keep the stuff elsewhere too, if possible and if I care enough about the data |
| 22:30.33 | ChipX86 | I know it's paranoid |
| 22:32.16 | ChipX86 | same :) |
| 22:32.17 | purple_cow | yep |
| 22:32.28 | ChipX86 | I need to put in place a good backup system of some sort |
| 22:32.31 | ChipX86 | I have no backup solution |
| 22:34.36 | kergoth | i really ought to burn all my music to dvds for safe keeping |
| 22:34.43 | kergoth | if the drives crash, i'm going to be most unhappy |
| 22:34.52 | ChipX86 | same |
| 22:36.24 | kergoth | hm, http://www.artsheaven.com/index.html looks like a decent place. hand painted reproductions of art pieces on canvas, at pretty reasonable prices. seems like a better route than prints |
| 22:37.57 | ChipX86 | Untrickable children think pizza, ice cream are tasty, no matter what those bothersome adults say |
| 22:38.03 | purple_cow | these disks have 1y warantee, and so far the only problem i've had is this DOA one |
| 22:38.14 | ChipX86 | 1/4 failure rate, eep! |
| 22:42.23 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 22:44.06 | ChipX86 | http://www.kget.com/news/state/story.aspx?content_id=A33913CA-2014-4A99-843C-B4F94CCBA150 |
| 22:47.36 | TD | i need to play more games |
| 22:47.40 | ChipX86 | WoW |
| 22:50.36 | CIA-9 | spacegrant: 03dkuester * r1409 10mck/PyMCK/Ground/Dialogs/MainWindow.py: pickiness |
| 22:51.42 | ChipX86 | best headline ever |
| 22:51.48 | ChipX86 | "South African store manages to enrage two major world religions with one package of soup" |
| 22:53.55 | TD | ChipX86: how much does it cost? |
| 22:54.03 | ChipX86 | WoW? |
| 22:54.10 | ChipX86 | it's like $40 and then $15/mo or something |
| 22:54.14 | ChipX86 | I don't pay attention. It's too fun |
| 22:54.29 | kergoth | yay, WoW |
| 22:54.31 | ChipX86 | one of those monthly necessities, like food and water |
| 22:54.55 | kergoth | yep, just like that |
| 22:55.48 | kergoth | ChipX86: need to get my mage caught up to you, quest wise, so you dont have to solo so much |
| 22:55.48 | kergoth | heh |
| 22:55.54 | ChipX86 | yeah really |
| 22:55.59 | ChipX86 | i'm getting tired of it :( |
| 22:56.13 | ChipX86 | it makes me sad, like burnt toast |
| 22:56.19 | kergoth | will probably play some more with renan, and we'll both get caught up to you |
| 22:59.09 | CIA-9 | BZFlag: 03davidtrowbridge * 10bzflag/plugins/python/ (PyBZFlag.cpp PyBZFlag.h python.cpp): well, it compiles... |
| 23:30.36 | CIA-9 | BZFlag: 03davidtrowbridge * 10bzflag/ (3 files in 2 dirs): spelling and cleanup. check the bz_Load symbol first, so we get a "this doesn't look like a plugin" error, rather than a "this plugin uses an old version" error |
| 23:45.37 | CIA-9 | BZFlag: 03davidtrowbridge * 10bzflag/src/bzfs/bzfsPlugins.cxx: s/extension/ext/ in loadPlugin. this compiled before because apparently 'extension' is a global variable which contains 'so' or 'dll', which isn't what we want |
| 23:46.55 | CIA-9 | BZFlag: 03davidtrowbridge * 10bzflag/plugins/python/python.cpp: hurray, it loads |
