| 00:31.56 | CIA-11 | autopackage: 03mike * 10autopackage/main/ (ChangeLog libexec/autosu-gtk.c): Add a "Why do I need my password" link in the UI |
| 00:31.57 | darth_mall | yay new speakers are here |
| 00:31.57 | TD | it's ChipX86 |
| 00:32.04 | ChipX86 | yeah. |
| 00:32.08 | ChipX86 | I fucking HATE windows |
| 00:32.13 | TD | heh. why? |
| 00:32.33 | ChipX86 | actually, right now I'd like to say I hate the windows compilers |
| 00:33.10 | darth_mall | sounds like someone needs a hug |
| 00:33.12 | ChipX86 | because they're so picky and break under relatively simple multiple inheritence setups, the windows guys here want me to not use multiple inheritence and to instead use single inheritence everywhere with large numbers of wrapper functions |
| 00:33.19 | ChipX86 | which we're not doing |
| 00:33.20 | TD | ugh |
| 00:33.29 | ChipX86 | "It doesn't work here, therefore it's BAD!" |
| 00:33.30 | CIA-11 | autopackage: 03mike 07r1-0-2 * 10autopackage/main/ (ChangeLog libexec/autosu-gtk.c): Add a "Why do I need my password" link in the UI |
| 00:33.31 | TD | yeah, VC++ isn't so great. though the very newest versions should be better |
| 00:33.37 | ChipX86 | "But nothing works there. Your code is riddled with hacks." |
| 00:34.08 | TD | heh |
| 00:34.24 | ChipX86 | also, though I can't say what it is, they're doing some windows work internally to give them some abilities we have here in linux for their codebase. Stuff we take for granted here, but they think they've come up with something amazing, but are designing it half-baked and not learning from what we have |
| 00:34.30 | ChipX86 | grr |
| 00:34.30 | ChipX86 | just frustrated |
| 00:34.51 | TD | well, at least you can feel smug and superior |
| 00:34.56 | TD | for a bit |
| 00:35.12 | TD | i am going to write a new article, maybe for osnews. it will be entitled, "The Climate of Crapulence" |
| 00:35.12 | ChipX86 | heh |
| 00:35.30 | ChipX86 | it just feels that everything in windows is a crappy hack, and that in comparison, most standard linux development is elegant |
| 00:35.31 | TD | it's going to be about how to import the "climate of excellence" john siracusa says macosx has to linux |
| 00:35.42 | TD | yeah, linux isn't bad for development |
| 00:35.46 | TD | unless you want to debug something |
| 00:35.54 | TD | then you realise gdb is permenantly in some state of brokenness |
| 00:36.00 | ChipX86 | heh |
| 00:36.06 | ChipX86 | the windows stuff isn't super great either |
| 00:36.24 | ChipX86 | if you're doing anything complicated anyway |
| 00:36.29 | lurgy | debugging is for the weak |
| 00:36.57 | numist | Ive been debugging all week |
| 00:39.16 | lurgy | then |
| 00:39.19 | lurgy | you are WEAK! |
| 00:39.20 | lurgy | :P |
| 00:44.40 | ChipX86 | the windows compiler just said "Error" and quit on a file |
| 00:45.08 | TD | heh |
| 00:45.09 | purple_cow | slimspace: do they want you to send the modem back? |
| 00:45.16 | TD | ahhh, i remember it well |
| 00:45.17 | slimspace | yes |
| 00:45.36 | ChipX86 | it bothers me when a windows developer lectures me on proper design |
| 00:45.59 | ChipX86 | and then you look at the code they write and find hacks everywhere, and no standards of style, and variable names that are 15 chars long |
| 00:46.00 | TD | i can't believe the fedora guys are *still* wittering on about this toked up plan of wrapping up .repo files in some web based thing |
| 00:46.08 | TD | and thinking that makes fedora as easy to use as macos x |
| 00:46.23 | TD | ChipX86: lpszwAreYouSureEx? |
| 00:46.28 | ChipX86 | *shudder* |
| 00:46.47 | ChipX86 | I should juts ignore the opinions of anybody who exclusively writes windows code |
| 00:47.15 | ChipX86 | these same people scoff at linux, but for no real reason, other than saying it's a toy and stuff |
| 00:47.20 | purple_cow | ChipX86: who's lecturing you? |
| 00:47.48 | ChipX86 | purple_cow: a few of the windows guys on my team |
| 00:48.05 | ChipX86 | they didn't like the class hierarchy I designed (they had plenty of opportunities to review it when I asked though) |
| 00:48.27 | ChipX86 | the reason being that the windows compiler starts to develop strange problems when your class hierarchy gets a bit more complex |
| 00:48.46 | ChipX86 | so they think that it should move to a hierarchy of a straight line and that every class should re-implement wrappers for the other classes |
| 00:49.59 | ChipX86 | windows is locking up on me now |
| 00:50.15 | ChipX86 | I typed dir on my local drive, and it said "Invalid network name" |
| 00:50.25 | ChipX86 | then the whole UI locked |
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| 01:01.04 | ChipX86 | I'm out of here. |
| 01:04.54 | slimspace | yay, DSL is cancelled |
| 01:05.00 | purple_cow | yay |
| 01:05.26 | slimspace | now to figure out this bill... |
| 01:06.40 | slimspace | purple_cow: it's all just shared among the 9 of us (including zak), right? |
| 01:08.36 | purple_cow | the bills are generally in advance, aren't they? |
| 01:08.46 | slimspace | I think so, yes |
| 01:08.49 | purple_cow | if so, i'm going to split for 8, since zak isn't living here anymore but there's an empty room |
| 01:09.32 | slimspace | hmm...how were we ending up at $4 per line per person? |
| 01:09.55 | slimspace | oh |
| 01:09.57 | slimspace | hold on... |
| 01:10.32 | CIA-11 | autopackage: 03mike * 10autopackage/main/TODO: add "Run Program" button to TODO |
| 01:10.55 | purple_cow | pull out all the charges relating to DSL, divide that by n (8 or 9). that's the internet charge. then multiply that by 6, subtract, divide the resulting by 3, and that's the charge for the people living in your apartment |
| 01:11.52 | darth_mall | yay new speakers |
| 01:12.08 | lurgy | yay sound |
| 01:16.15 | slimspace | $3.50 for this month, to be exact |
| 01:16.45 | slimspace | and that's with 8 people |
| 01:26.34 | purple_cow | are you including the relevant taxes and modem rental charge? |
| 01:27.53 | slimspace | possibly not... |
| 01:28.24 | slimspace | That's the stuff labled "TAXES" and "ACTION RENT"? |
| 01:35.43 | slimspace | also, tomorrow is acceptable to pay rent? |
| 01:50.44 | purple_cow | slimspace: i can show you the relevant items if you bring the bill over here |
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| 02:11.04 | slimspace | bleh |
| 02:15.33 | lurgy | bloo! |
| 02:18.12 | CIA-11 | autopackage: 03mike * 10autopackage/main/ChangeLog: |
| 02:18.12 | CIA-11 | autopackage: Fri Jun 3 03:18:00 2005 Dave Wickham <dave@aagames.co.uk> |
| 02:18.12 | CIA-11 | autopackage: * share/apkg-script-utils: Teach testForLib about 32/64 incompatibility, add new isLibrary32 function. This still needs a bit of work. |
| 02:18.22 | CIA-11 | autopackage: 03mike * 10autopackage/main/share/apkg-script-utils: |
| 02:18.22 | CIA-11 | autopackage: Fri Jun 3 03:18:00 2005 Dave Wickham <dave@aagames.co.uk> |
| 02:18.22 | CIA-11 | autopackage: * share/apkg-script-utils: Teach testForLib about 32/64 incompatibility, add new isLibrary32 function. This still needs a bit of work. |
| 02:29.11 | darth_mall | mmmm... yummy speakers |
| 02:30.01 | darth_mall | me should steal scanline's or purple_cow's camera for some pictures of unic |
| 03:03.30 | slimspace | bored |
| 03:04.09 | ChipX86 | got Jamie playing WoW :) |
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| 03:23.55 | purple_cow | guh |
| 03:24.03 | purple_cow | why is the wireless being so flaky? |
| 03:31.37 | CIA-11 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r8407 10wasabi/ (7 files in 4 dirs): updates for the "new" wasabi. back to 640x480, usb devices are just in /dev/, rather than /dev/usb |
| 03:32.23 | purple_cow | silly micah, making me install SDCC |
| 03:33.51 | kergoth | your mother's right son, women are not things. listen to what it says. |
| 03:37.34 | cluecon[file] | eep kergoth |
| 03:51.17 | CIA-11 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r8408 10wasabi/ (5 files in 3 dirs): revert most of that. it helps if i install the udev rules correctly |
| 04:06.15 | lurgy | http://navi.cx/~lurgyman/albums/seattle-2005/ |
| 04:06.40 | slimspace | lurgy: we have music! |
| 04:07.26 | purple_cow | sort of... |
| 04:08.14 | lurgy | yay music |
| 04:16.37 | purple_cow | time to work on the video game integration :) |
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| 04:46.03 | lurgy | yay wideo games |
| 04:48.21 | purple_cow | micah broke my kernel! |
| 04:52.16 | lurgy | yay! |
| 05:10.12 | nullpuppy | lurgy: you in the seattle area still? |
| 05:11.19 | purple_cow | he's been back here for a while |
| 05:11.28 | nullpuppy | ah, ok |
| 05:11.31 | nullpuppy | nm then |
| 05:42.48 | kergoth | bleh |
| 06:33.17 | numist | lurgy: Fire is looking for freeciv people to play with, ifn you wanna... he's in #devlounge and #freenode |
| 06:36.44 | nullpuppy | kergoth: is hyperion back up yet? :) |
| 09:13.44 | purple_cow | hurray for good tv shows |
| 09:57.56 | CIA-11 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r8409 10motion/utilities/ (AMC.cs Makefile): try turning the AMC stuff into a DLL. right now this breaks, for some reason |
| 10:06.17 | CIA-11 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r8410 10motion/utilities/ (AMC.cs Makefile): add accessors and other random things needed to prevent warnings when building AMC.dll |
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| 13:35.46 | Cae | huminum |
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| 15:13.55 | Cae | poke |
| 15:15.22 | numist | OW MY EYE!!! |
| 15:15.34 | numist | oh no its fallen out!! help me find it! |
| 15:18.05 | Cae | heh |
| 15:18.35 | kergoth | doh, is that what i stepped on? sorry |
| 15:19.38 | lurgy | SANDSQUID! |
| 15:19.43 | numist | damnit |
| 15:32.59 | lurgy | slimspace: should i put this check somewhere where you can find it if you want to drop off rent before i get home? |
| 15:35.08 | slimspace | lurgy: hmm...I should have gotten it from you last night. |
| 15:35.26 | slimspace | um, just put it on my desk |
| 15:41.56 | darth_mall | wow FedEx has a crapton of conditions under which they're not liable ^^ |
| 15:57.30 | *** topic/#tacobeam by darth_mall -> Happy National Donut Day!! (http://taquitos.net) |
| 15:57.40 | *** topic/#tacobeam by darth_mall -> Happy National Doughnut Day!! (http://taquitos.net) |
| 15:58.40 | numist | sweet |
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| 16:04.16 | darth_mall | welp, called FedEx about the dented speaker |
| 16:04.26 | darth_mall | I guess they're going to call newegg so that newegg can file a claim |
| 16:08.39 | numist | darth_mall: unusual for fedex, I usually have luck with them and no end of trouble with ups |
| 16:10.58 | darth_mall | numist: same |
| 16:11.11 | darth_mall | the speaker works, I just wanted something not dented ;) |
| 16:11.27 | numist | well, of course... you did, after all, pay money for it |
| 16:11.29 | darth_mall | I have a feeling that nothing will come of this |
| 16:11.44 | darth_mall | I read through the terms of service for both FedEx and newegg |
| 16:11.50 | numist | uh oh |
| 16:12.06 | darth_mall | and it looks like the only real prayer I had of getting it replaced would have been to refuse to sign for it yesterday |
| 16:12.16 | numist | ouch |
| 16:12.40 | darth_mall | since I didn't report any damage when I picked it up it was completely undamaged, as far as FedEx is concerned |
| 16:13.10 | darth_mall | and newegg says that any physical damage voids their warranty |
| 16:13.20 | numist | oh damnit |
| 16:13.27 | darth_mall | but it's only a small dent |
| 16:13.35 | darth_mall | and it hasn't affected the sound quality |
| 16:13.35 | numist | hammer it out and call it a defect |
| 16:13.49 | numist | darth_mall: you're rationalizing.. quit it and stand up for your rights as a consumer |
| 16:13.53 | darth_mall | they're plastic cases, I think a hammer would only worsen the situation |
| 16:14.26 | numist | oh dear me yes, forget I mentioned that |
| 16:14.53 | darth_mall | I've done what I can, if FedEx and newegg can cover their asses because I didn't have a masters degree in their terms of service, then there's not much I can do |
| 16:14.53 | numist | how did it dent in the first place? I was under the understanding that hard plastics didnt dent, vis a vis |
| 16:16.07 | darth_mall | all I know is there's a small dent in the front, left edge of the right satellite speaker |
| 16:16.11 | darth_mall | it's purely a cosmetic issue |
| 16:16.20 | numist | welp, its got character |
| 16:16.30 | darth_mall | I figured I'd see if I could get someone to take responsibility and get me one in perfect shape |
| 16:16.39 | darth_mall | but if not, the speakers still sound awesome, which is what really matters |
| 16:16.42 | numist | nah, responsibility is for the weak |
| 16:17.09 | darth_mall | and it's better to learn this lesson when the thing isn't damaged to the point of not working |
| 16:17.31 | darth_mall | so in the future, when I get a bent box from FedEx I know I can say, "hey, write down that this is all bent up before I sign for it" |
| 16:17.47 | darth_mall | so that if this happens again, they'll say, "oh, you're right, it was damaged when you received it" |
| 16:18.01 | darth_mall | rather than, "according to our records there was no damage when you picked it up" |
| 16:18.07 | numist | aye |
| 16:19.20 | darth_mall | it's a very brilliant way of taking advantage of your customers |
| 16:20.06 | Cae | hum. best way to get the last line of a file? I don't care about the other lines. I just want the very last one before EOF |
| 16:20.44 | darth_mall | in Python? |
| 16:20.48 | Cae | yeah |
| 16:21.04 | darth_mall | I think there's a way to move the file pointer once you open it |
| 16:21.12 | darth_mall | and I think it supports negative numbers |
| 16:21.24 | darth_mall | so f.seek (-1) should put you 1 byte before the end of the file |
| 16:21.30 | darth_mall | I'm pretty sure it's seek... |
| 16:22.05 | darth_mall | the other thing to do is: lines = f.readlines() |
| 16:22.08 | darth_mall | then lines[-1] |
| 16:22.19 | darth_mall | that will get you the entire last line |
| 16:22.33 | darth_mall | or, if you like obfuscation: f.readlines()[-1] |
| 16:22.43 | numist | but that still reads the whole file ;) |
| 16:22.56 | darth_mall | meh |
| 16:23.27 | darth_mall | I doubt you'd notice the time difference unless we're talking about reading in a 250 meg .avi |
| 16:23.48 | numist | well, you could always loop f.seek backwards till you hit 'n\' |
| 16:24.38 | Cae | this is a ten line files, hehe. |
| 16:24.42 | Cae | *file |
| 16:25.30 | darth_mall | actually... |
| 16:25.31 | darth_mall | hang on |
| 16:25.39 | Cae | hmm. |
| 16:25.47 | Cae | last line of this may be empty... |
| 16:26.22 | Cae | no..no..that's just bluefish being weird. |
| 16:26.30 | Cae | vim says not. |
| 16:27.10 | darth_mall | yeah... readlines looks like your best bet |
| 16:27.25 | numist | 10 line file? bah readlines then |
| 16:27.32 | darth_mall | unless you wanna try seeking backwards from the end, testing each character ;) |
| 16:28.23 | Cae | and it should always be ten lines. so, meh :) |
| 16:30.34 | CIA-11 | g2bridge: 03evan * r250 10/src/main.cpp: Some error handling. Start the loop that spawns bridge processes. |
| 16:41.04 | Cae | si_pc_cpu, ah, the joy of strangely named fields. |
| 16:43.46 | darth_mall | lol |
| 16:43.53 | darth_mall | someone got sick on a tour of the plant |
| 16:44.02 | darth_mall | now Jody or Bob has to hose down the barf |
| 16:44.02 | Cae | oh? |
| 16:44.04 | Cae | heh |
| 16:44.25 | darth_mall | I just told Wes and he took off, doesn't wanna stick around to have to be the one to do it |
| 16:44.31 | darth_mall | hehe |
| 16:44.49 | darth_mall | I kinda wondered why that girl came tearin' down the stairs holding a bucket |
| 16:44.59 | darth_mall | she didn't look old enough to be an employee ^^ |
| 16:46.01 | CIA-11 | g2bridge: 03evan * r251 10/src/config.h: Must. Declare. Member functions. |
| 16:48.35 | CIA-11 | g2bridge: 03evan * r252 10/src/config.cpp: Implementations del muerte! |
| 16:55.56 | darth_mall | there, found Jody and told him |
| 17:04.13 | CIA-11 | g2bridge: 03evan * r253 10/src/main.cpp: Spawn new bridges. |
| 17:17.07 | numist | damn sql |
| 17:28.04 | lurgy | slimspace: ok, i'll put it on your desk as soon as i can |
| 17:32.48 | darth_mall | bad lurgy |
| 17:32.51 | darth_mall | go to your room |
| 17:35.50 | Cae | soo..how do I get postgresql to show me tables? |
| 17:36.26 | numist | show tables? |
| 17:36.30 | Cae | nope.. |
| 17:36.41 | numist | got me then |
| 17:37.52 | Cae | yeah. one would think that an sql language would accept show tables. but apparently not. |
| 17:38.01 | Cae | or show databases, for that matter. |
| 17:38.28 | numist | pgsql-- |
| 17:38.49 | Cae | it doesn't have use either. |
| 17:39.26 | lurgy | Cae: skill -SHOWTABLES pgsqld? |
| 17:40.22 | darth_mall | lurgy: you're so full of useful commands |
| 17:40.32 | Cae | uh..what the hell is that? hehe |
| 17:40.54 | darth_mall | mmm... Strung Out |
| 17:40.59 | Cae | I am caffeine deprived. |
| 17:41.04 | Cae | be nice to me. :P |
| 17:42.11 | numist | appears to be a pgsql command, but I thought sql was supposed to be easy? |
| 17:42.35 | darth_mall | erm... flower |
| 17:43.37 | CIA-11 | spacegrant: 03dowty * r1384 10devices/speck/protel/ (acquisition-board.PcbDoc acquisition-board.SchDoc): Fixed a major goofup in the op-amp feedback path, re-routed and re-cleaned the board |
| 17:43.59 | Cae | I prefer mysql. |
| 17:44.11 | Cae | I am supposed to telepathically know table names, apparently. |
| 17:44.21 | darth_mall | yay! |
| 17:44.22 | Cae | there is NO command to get their names in postgresql |
| 17:44.37 | Cae | that's just retarded. |
| 17:45.40 | darth_mall | commands are dumb |
| 17:50.56 | Cae | what are the visual definition thingies of databases called? I can't remember. ie show all tables and how they're linked and what they have..etc |
| 17:51.50 | Cae | nm |
| 17:51.56 | Cae | er diagrams |
| 17:53.11 | Cae | heh |
| 17:55.30 | darth_mall | ha! I should set a powerpuff girls wallpaper |
| 17:55.55 | JeffM2501 | blossum, comander and there leader |
| 17:56.05 | JeffM2501 | buttercup is the toughest fighter |
| 17:56.11 | JeffM2501 | bubbles is a joy and a laughter |
| 17:56.13 | darth_mall | yay JeffM2501! |
| 17:56.16 | JeffM2501 | powerpuff save the day |
| 17:56.43 | JeffM2501 | who can resist saving the world before bedtime |
| 17:58.33 | darth_mall | JeffM2501: I can't |
| 17:59.54 | Cae | hey Chip |
| 17:59.57 | ChipX86 | hey |
| 18:00.54 | Cae | so what's up? |
| 18:01.10 | ChipX86 | nothing, just sitting here with Jamie, working from home |
| 18:01.11 | CIA-11 | g2bridge: 03evan * r254 10/src/ (config.cpp config.h): It helps to include the headers that contain structures your using. Fixed a bunch of errors. |
| 18:01.15 | darth_mall | me you bitches, I'm high on crack! |
| 18:01.18 | darth_mall | wanna freebee? |
| 18:01.43 | ChipX86 | we're fully clothed! *wink wink!!!* |
| 18:02.39 | Cae | you should get a utilikilt for the heck of it |
| 18:02.57 | ChipX86 | hah I should |
| 18:03.16 | ChipX86 | kergoth: kendrick says hi |
| 18:03.36 | darth_mall | Cae: I'm going to order one this summer |
| 18:03.39 | Cae | what level are you at now, kergoth? |
| 18:03.45 | Cae | darth_mall: hehe |
| 18:03.49 | ChipX86 | Jamie's now addicted |
| 18:03.59 | Cae | to? |
| 18:04.02 | darth_mall | ChipX86: to WoW? |
| 18:04.02 | ChipX86 | WoW |
| 18:04.04 | kergoth | Cae: about 5% till i hit 40 |
| 18:04.05 | darth_mall | heh |
| 18:04.05 | darth_mall | cool |
| 18:04.07 | Cae | coolness |
| 18:04.23 | Cae | mwahaha, the guild grows strong |
| 18:04.42 | ChipX86 | she's on Kilrogg |
| 18:04.45 | ChipX86 | because she's undead |
| 18:04.52 | ChipX86 | and I can't help her on Suramar |
| 18:05.11 | Cae | hehe. but she can join suramar alliance :) or suramar horde. |
| 18:05.28 | ChipX86 | she has an elven character on Suramar, but prefers undead |
| 18:05.37 | Cae | elves suck :P |
| 18:05.46 | Cae | I hate their quests. |
| 18:05.58 | Cae | dwarves are pretty fun. |
| 18:06.00 | ChipX86 | yay for Foresight Linux advertising Galago as one of the new cool things they have |
| 18:06.05 | kergoth | i like the human quests. dont much like the dwarf/gnome starting ones |
| 18:06.14 | kergoth | running someone coffee before it gets cold isnt my idea of a good time |
| 18:06.18 | Cae | yeah. the human ones are pretty good too |
| 18:06.31 | Cae | eh? |
| 18:06.35 | Cae | oh |
| 18:06.38 | Cae | yeah, heh |
| 18:06.39 | kergoth | heh, thats one of the early dwarf/gnome ones |
| 18:06.53 | kergoth | started a mage to fight with my little bro, he's on suramar now, got him an account |
| 18:07.17 | ChipX86 | I love my elf |
| 18:07.18 | CIA-11 | g2bridge: 03evan * r255 10/src/config.cpp: More stupid mistakes go away |
| 18:07.27 | ChipX86 | being a cute elven girl makes people want to help you |
| 18:07.39 | Samy | ekh |
| 18:07.42 | Samy | The elf |
| 18:07.44 | Samy | Again |
| 18:07.45 | Samy | Waking me up |
| 18:07.46 | Cae | being level 60 means people want you to help. hehe |
| 18:13.01 | CIA-11 | g2bridge: 03evan * r256 10/src/config.h: More prototypes to make the compiler happy. |
| 18:13.43 | CIA-11 | g2bridge: 03evan * r257 10/src/config.cpp: Note: 'being' != 'begin' |
| 18:14.21 | CIA-11 | spacegrant: 03dowty * r1386 10devices/speck/ (11 files in 2 dirs): Updated manufacturing data |
| 18:15.27 | lurgy | being level 60 means you never have to say you're sorry |
| 18:15.53 | lurgy | hehe |
| 18:16.34 | Cae | :P |
| 18:16.53 | CIA-11 | g2bridge: 03evan * r258 10/src/ (config.cpp main.cpp): More errors fixed. BOOBIES! |
| 18:17.01 | darth_mall | hmm... |
| 18:17.10 | Cae | freudian slip? |
| 18:17.42 | Cae | lol |
| 18:18.19 | kergoth | That was then and this is now. And this is a chair. And that's a lamp. And you have boobies. And I'm going to find that trophy! |
| 18:18.27 | Cae | :P |
| 18:18.45 | CIA-11 | g2bridge: 03evan * r259 10/src/main.cpp: One more, and then it can go on to finding another crapton of errors. |
| 18:18.53 | darth_mall | kergoth: ^^ |
| 18:20.29 | darth_mall | rofl |
| 18:20.31 | darth_mall | http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/10463645/ |
| 18:27.41 | CIA-11 | g2bridge: 03evan * r260 10/src/main.cpp: All kinds of fun filled errors. |
| 18:30.04 | CIA-11 | spacegrant: 03dowty * r1387 10devices/speck/plots/acquisition-schematic.pdf: Update the acquisition-board schematic PDF |
| 18:37.28 | CIA-11 | g2bridge: 03evan * r261 10/src/ (config.cpp config.h main.cpp): |
| 18:37.29 | CIA-11 | g2bridge: Fixed the last error. I should quit trying to be so fancy. Now that it compiles I can |
| 18:37.29 | CIA-11 | g2bridge: rest assured that it is, like Micah's kernel code, flawless. |
| 18:38.03 | Cae | :P |
| 18:38.18 | darth_mall | why does everyone always stick their tongue out at me |
| 18:51.12 | CIA-11 | spacegrant: 03dowty * r1388 10devices/speck/plots/ (8 files): Rev.B passed FreeDFM, update its plots |
| 18:56.55 | Cae | hum. |
| 19:01.20 | CIA-11 | spacegrant: 03dowty * r1389 10devices/speck/ (bill-of-materials.pdf bill-of-materials.xls): Update the bill of materials for Rev. B |
| 19:02.18 | Cae | bah, lunch. who needs lunch? |
| 19:03.01 | Cae | heh |
| 19:07.32 | numist | munh munch munch |
| 19:08.31 | Cae | munh away :P |
| 19:09.01 | numist | well, 1/3 of the time my jaw pops, so thats my excuse :P |
| 19:09.19 | Cae | lol |
| 19:15.21 | darth_mall | who missed me? |
| 19:16.23 | darth_mall | numist: mine too |
| 19:16.31 | numist | nice |
| 19:16.37 | numist | orthodontics? |
| 19:16.37 | darth_mall | TMJ, and all that |
| 19:16.44 | numist | Ive popped ever since I got the damn braces off |
| 19:16.46 | darth_mall | gonna have it taken care of eventually |
| 19:16.51 | numist | ah |
| 19:16.53 | darth_mall | I never had braces, that's the problem |
| 19:16.57 | numist | hehe |
| 19:17.03 | darth_mall | teeth got a bit crooked, messed up my jaw |
| 19:17.11 | darth_mall | anyway, time to get some koohi with padre |
| 19:17.16 | numist | Im broken, but its ok, my gf reminds me so I dont forget :P |
| 19:17.21 | darth_mall | lol |
| 19:19.17 | lurgy | lalala.. |
| 19:21.06 | *** join/#tacobeam sbahra (~samy@212.76.82.129) |
| 19:22.37 | lurgy | silly cheap hardware.. |
| 19:22.52 | numist | this guy on premium blend just did the BEST chris farley impression I have EVER seen... might have even been better than the guy he was impersonating |
| 19:24.16 | CIA-11 | spacegrant: 03dowty * r1390 10devices/speck/ (bill-of-materials.pdf bill-of-materials.xls): Make the BOM a bit more print-friendly, and add a PDF |
| 19:24.47 | Cae | hm. someone find me a site that has car accidents per day for austin, tx..heh |
| 19:25.33 | numist | I dont think I want to know |
| 19:26.37 | Cae | I'm guessing the average is around 5-15 |
| 19:26.58 | lurgy | unless you mean accidents with injuries |
| 19:27.00 | numist | Ill bet its way more |
| 19:27.17 | Cae | I mean with injuries |
| 19:27.30 | Cae | minor ones are probably around 50-100 |
| 19:27.44 | Cae | these people are PSYCHOTIC |
| 19:27.45 | numist | yeah, those numbers are probably fairly close |
| 19:27.53 | numist | psh, you havent driven in LA or San Diego |
| 19:28.00 | numist | people are FSCKING CRAZY here |
| 19:28.03 | Cae | nor do I intend to |
| 19:28.16 | numist | at least in NYC people made a feeble effort not to hit me |
| 19:28.24 | numist | people here expect you to get out of their way |
| 19:29.34 | Cae | lol |
| 19:29.50 | Cae | here people are just stupid. |
| 19:30.03 | numist | oh I didnt say people here were smart either :P |
| 19:30.29 | numist | just as stupid, but with an added dose of ignorance and usacliche |
| 19:31.11 | numist | luckily, my faith is restored during the hours of 2 - 6 am, when the only people on the omg-how-is-the-road-still-full highways know how to drive |
| 19:32.33 | Cae | :P |
| 19:33.24 | Cae | this is to say nothing of the pedestrians. one of which recently tried to get himself run over by running in front of my car, to get to the bus across the street in time. |
| 19:34.02 | numist | see, the pedestrians in this state know who the dominant species is :P |
| 19:34.20 | numist | so I guess its a mixed bag |
| 19:37.30 | Cae | he was less than three feet from the front of my still-moving-fast vehicle at one point. |
| 19:37.39 | numist | nice |
| 19:37.43 | Cae | needless to say, I found his behavior disturbing. |
| 19:37.46 | numist | my buddy used to try and hit the backs of cars |
| 19:37.49 | numist | on foot |
| 19:37.55 | numist | on a thoroughfare |
| 19:37.58 | Cae | your buddy's stupid. |
| 19:38.19 | numist | he'd stand very unassuming-like as to not attract attention, and then at the last second leap at it and try to slap the back of the car going 35+mph |
| 19:38.24 | numist | him and his sister |
| 19:38.29 | numist | hey actually got a few too... |
| 19:38.36 | numist | s/he/the/ |
| 19:47.42 | darth_mall | so this thing where they dump a shot on top of the frappuccino is pretty tasty |
| 19:49.25 | numist | ew coffee |
| 19:49.57 | darth_mall | no, not coffee |
| 19:50.04 | darth_mall | a frappuccino with an espresso shot |
| 19:50.05 | numist | oh, a shot of proper? |
| 19:50.08 | numist | ew coffee |
| 19:50.12 | darth_mall | that is definitely not coffee |
| 19:50.19 | numist | its coffee enough to make me sick |
| 19:50.22 | darth_mall | espresso is to coffee as whiskey is beer |
| 19:50.23 | numist | unless the shot is scotch |
| 19:50.36 | darth_mall | s/is beer/is to beer/ |
| 19:50.43 | numist | if its made from soaked cacao beans, itll make me sick |
| 19:50.52 | darth_mall | grr... stupid drive not reading With Teeth |
| 19:51.28 | numist | Id be worried if my drive had teeth |
| 19:51.48 | darth_mall | Offspring is a poor substitute for NIN |
| 19:52.27 | numist | offspring is still better than bolton |
| 19:54.31 | darth_mall | well... yeah |
| 19:57.45 | CIA-11 | g2bridge: 03evan * r262 10/src/main.cpp: Exceptions don't do much good if you don't actually catch them. |
| 19:58.23 | Cae | lol |
| 19:58.30 | darth_mall | I still can't listen to Pretty Fly for a White Guy, though |
| 19:59.52 | sbahra | hah |
| 19:59.59 | sbahra | darth_mall: Don't blame you. |
| 20:10.10 | darth_mall | bleh |
| 20:10.15 | darth_mall | segfaults suck |
| 20:10.50 | darth_mall | that's silly... no valgrind |
| 20:13.58 | darth_mall | yep... and valgrind doesn't really give me any more info on this one than gdb |
| 20:14.00 | darth_mall | loverly |
| 20:19.24 | hardwire | I need to get off this boat |
| 20:19.24 | hardwire | its been 7 days now :( |
| 20:19.24 | sbahra | hahaha |
| 20:19.25 | sbahra | darth_mall: You reminded me |
| 20:19.31 | sbahra | I was going out for a cigarette break |
| 20:19.33 | sbahra | darth_mall++ |
| 20:19.52 | darth_mall | hardwire: you should get off the boat and come visit |
| 20:21.03 | hardwire | pretty fly for a white guy |
| 20:21.04 | hardwire | damn you |
| 20:21.04 | hardwire | now thats going to be stuck in my head |
| 20:21.12 | hardwire | haha |
| 20:21.14 | hardwire | I wish |
| 20:21.26 | hardwire | they need to send out the small boat so I can go back to the airport |
| 20:21.28 | hardwire | come home |
| 20:21.28 | hardwire | and be happy |
| 20:22.13 | darth_mall | and visit! |
| 20:22.13 | hardwire | the first mate here is this rough and tough chick |
| 20:22.27 | hardwire | and she is unhappy with the rest of the crew |
| 20:22.34 | hardwire | it seems the only way to keep her happy is to talk about funny things cats do |
| 20:22.39 | hardwire | and I am all out of cat jokes |
| 20:22.50 | darth_mall | hardwire: you can just start making some up |
| 20:22.51 | hardwire | darth_mall: atleast you can leave your house |
| 20:23.03 | hardwire | mine is floating 4 miles from the shore.. and the shore is 50 miles from a town. |
| 20:23.15 | darth_mall | so a cat walks into a bar and the bartender says, "why the long the face" |
| 20:23.19 | hardwire | and the town is 600ms from anywhere :) |
| 20:23.30 | darth_mall | then the cat beats the hell out of him for being an idiot |
| 20:23.31 | hardwire | and the cat said.. MEOW! |
| 20:23.41 | hardwire | mwa |
| 20:23.41 | hardwire | ha |
| 20:24.01 | darth_mall | and the moral of the story is: cats aren't horses |
| 20:24.15 | Cae | one cat I knew loved this one chair. you know, the cloth kind you use for camping that folds up. would jump up on it anytime anyone was around in the hopes that they'd play with him. since the entire chair was cloth, you could make it bulge in places with your hand or foot, and he'd attack the bulges. of course, if you weren't careful he'd also attack you, since he knew you were doing it |
| 20:24.41 | darth_mall | so you hung him by his tail from a flagpole? |
| 20:25.00 | Cae | no, I threatened to give him catnip when his owner moved out :P |
| 20:25.07 | darth_mall | huh |
| 20:25.10 | Cae | that cat was psychotic |
| 20:25.18 | darth_mall | flagpole woulda been pretty cool, though |
| 20:25.35 | hardwire | ugh |
| 20:25.43 | hardwire | yesterday one of our cats scared the shit out of my girlfriend |
| 20:25.46 | hardwire | I got an email about it |
| 20:25.50 | Cae | lol |
| 20:25.51 | numist | nice |
| 20:25.58 | numist | if someone emails you to tell you, it had to be good |
| 20:26.02 | hardwire | she was getting dressed.. and the cat snuck into the dresser drawer while she was running around getting ready |
| 20:26.08 | hardwire | and just fell asleep |
| 20:26.17 | hardwire | and she came back a few minutes later.. opened the drawer and just reached in |
| 20:26.24 | numist | ZOT |
| 20:26.24 | hardwire | and her underwear meowed at her |
| 20:26.28 | numist | haha |
| 20:26.28 | Cae | lol |
| 20:26.40 | hardwire | way too fluffy |
| 20:26.49 | hardwire | she said she wouldn't have had a problem if a huge spider wasn't already stalking her |
| 20:27.12 | hardwire | I miss anchorage |
| 20:27.14 | hardwire | I can't wait to get out of this place |
| 20:27.22 | hardwire | gigantic floating crazyness |
| 20:27.42 | hardwire | if you guys ever have the chance to get an IT company started.. don't do it on a boat :) |
| 20:27.53 | Cae | well. water+electronics=bad |
| 20:28.14 | darth_mall | water + electronics = one hell of a party |
| 20:28.15 | hardwire | this is so cool though.. shore based starband repeater system based on mesh network |
| 20:28.26 | hardwire | we have two in/out phone lines over it |
| 20:28.32 | hardwire | and the entire crew has email capabilities |
| 20:28.33 | numist | that is cool, but you are also stuck on a boat |
| 20:28.39 | hardwire | for a service cost of less than a grand a year |
| 20:28.41 | numist | which precludes a lot of activities |
| 20:28.50 | hardwire | well.. I am going to build 5 more I think |
| 20:28.59 | Cae | boats? |
| 20:29.02 | numist | ... |
| 20:29.06 | hardwire | as soon as the other boats on this oil spill found out what I did they all called a meeting to see if they could all jump on |
| 20:29.12 | hardwire | yeh |
| 20:29.18 | numist | what did you do, specifically |
| 20:29.22 | hardwire | I am in makushin bay.. where the selendang ayu tanker boat ripped in half |
| 20:29.23 | darth_mall | built some cats |
| 20:29.27 | darth_mall | put 'em in a boat |
| 20:29.47 | numist | ripped in half.. why didnt I hear about that? |
| 20:29.48 | hardwire | and spilled soybean and deisel everywhere |
| 20:29.58 | numist | oh yeah, I live behind the red white and blue curtain |
| 20:29.59 | hardwire | numist.. most people haven't |
| 20:30.00 | hardwire | google for selendang ayu |
| 20:30.12 | hardwire | well this is alaska.. part of the rwb |
| 20:30.14 | darth_mall | soybeans are bad for the environment! death to soy! |
| 20:30.15 | numist | what if I wanna use msn? |
| 20:30.23 | hardwire | numist: you go right ahead |
| 20:30.27 | numist | :P |
| 20:30.28 | hardwire | you will get biased views |
| 20:30.28 | hardwire | :) |
| 20:30.41 | hardwire | darth_mall: actually.. its better than anything else |
| 20:30.53 | hardwire | we will just have muscularly underdeveloped fish in this area for a while |
| 20:30.57 | darth_mall | no! evil i say! |
| 20:31.09 | numist | hardwire: so what did you do? |
| 20:31.10 | darth_mall | soy destroys all that is good and wholesome in this world |
| 20:31.10 | hardwire | vegitarian fish |
| 20:31.15 | hardwire | bastards |
| 20:31.19 | hardwire | all they eat is tofu |
| 20:31.25 | hardwire | numist: I run a company called tdxnet. |
| 20:31.31 | darth_mall | soy is a metaphor for satan, terrorism, and fuel efficient cars |
| 20:31.32 | hardwire | we do sat based internet |
| 20:31.33 | numist | you did the comms then |
| 20:31.37 | numist | aahk |
| 20:31.47 | hardwire | I do all the comms for this boat as well |
| 20:31.52 | hardwire | I didn't a month ago |
| 20:31.55 | hardwire | but I do now |
| 20:31.55 | hardwire | we own the boat |
| 20:32.01 | hardwire | the Cape Flattery |
| 20:32.04 | hardwire | you can find pics of it on beringsea.com |
| 20:32.45 | darth_mall | oooh... who's this handsome devil? http://beringsea.com/staff/shane/ |
| 20:32.57 | hardwire | that woul dbe me myself and I |
| 20:33.08 | numist | not much diesel, apparently, thankfuly |
| 20:33.08 | hardwire | in my long hair hippie days |
| 20:33.15 | hardwire | I look like I should be treehugging in that picture |
| 20:33.20 | hardwire | numist: not a whole lot |
| 20:33.38 | numist | 21,000 gallons isnt much compared to the soy that was in there |
| 20:33.47 | hardwire | our boat is respinsible for 50 hazwoppers |
| 20:33.47 | hardwire | cleanup people |
| 20:34.05 | hardwire | their job is to take breathing material (as I know it) but really its just super absorbant cloth |
| 20:34.05 | hardwire | and clean rocks |
| 20:34.07 | hardwire | how fun is that? |
| 20:34.17 | darth_mall | rocks! |
| 20:34.20 | hardwire | 50 of them can clean 500 feet in a 12 hour day |
| 20:34.27 | hardwire | I thought that was neat |
| 20:34.42 | hardwire | there are over 350 cleanup persons in the makushin and skan bay areas |
| 20:34.46 | hardwire | and over 8 boats |
| 20:34.52 | hardwire | we are the 3rd largest |
| 20:34.56 | darth_mall | that's a lot of pants |
| 20:34.57 | numist | oh wait, sorry, I missed a chart.. ~31000 gallons of diesel and engine oils |
| 20:35.08 | hardwire | thats a whole lot of pants |
| 20:35.10 | hardwire | the oils are weird |
| 20:35.25 | hardwire | it all sat too long and now its like picking up tarballs on the shore |
| 20:35.45 | Cae | wait, is this the boat where they were messing with the engines, shut them down, and then found out they couldn't restart them? |
| 20:35.53 | numist | you know, I dont think of the same tarball as you mean when you say that... |
| 20:35.54 | hardwire | Unified Command got news of my comms system.. after just spending over 1 million dollars repeating a GSM backbone out to the area |
| 20:36.00 | hardwire | and now they want to spend about that on my system.. since most people just need email |
| 20:36.26 | hardwire | numist: in the non-geek sense |
| 20:36.32 | Cae | yeah, me either. I think it would be pretty funny to pick up the tarballs I think off of a shore. "well, here's gaim..there's wine..there's a kernel.." |
| 20:36.44 | numist | hardwire: I know :P |
| 20:36.53 | numist | ^_^ |
| 20:37.03 | numist | ooh, and I found cedega! >_> |
| 20:37.52 | hardwire | http://www.dec.state.ak.us/spar/perp/response/sum_fy05/041207201/041207201_index.htm |
| 20:38.01 | hardwire | I didn't know they posted nots there |
| 20:38.03 | hardwire | notes |
| 20:38.03 | hardwire | neat |
| 20:39.18 | darth_mall | oh man |
| 20:39.22 | darth_mall | someone killed purple_cow |
| 20:39.25 | hardwire | http://www.dec.state.ak.us/spar/perp/response/sum_fy05/041207201/iap/041207201_iap_27.pdf |
| 20:39.28 | hardwire | page 3 |
| 20:39.30 | hardwire | area 11 |
| 20:39.32 | hardwire | I am in the middle of that bay |
| 20:39.50 | *** join/#tacobeam purple_cow (~jupiter@navi.cx) |
| 20:40.10 | hardwire | my sat install is in the north valley |
| 20:40.14 | hardwire | I have a neat pic of it |
| 20:40.19 | darth_mall | yay purple_cow revived! |
| 20:40.23 | numist | boo |
| 20:40.26 | numist | stay dead next time |
| 20:40.32 | purple_cow | yahoo |
| 20:40.48 | hardwire | http://www.bogomip.com/~hardwire/Starband_Install.jpg |
| 20:40.51 | hardwire | my intrepid crew |
| 20:41.45 | darth_mall | purple_cow: is that the sound of you getting your disks? |
| 20:41.53 | darth_mall | hardwire: when does you get to get off the boat? |
| 20:42.00 | hardwire | tomorrow I hope |
| 20:42.33 | darth_mall | yay |
| 20:44.59 | darth_mall | bleh |
| 20:45.02 | darth_mall | work is making me sad today |
| 20:45.38 | hardwire | I miss mocha latte |
| 20:45.47 | hardwire | http://www.bogomip.com/~hardwire/serioustime.jpg |
| 20:45.48 | numist | work is finally working for me... bollocks I spent a ton of time getting shit fixed yesterday |
| 20:45.51 | hardwire | theres our national geo shot |
| 20:46.09 | purple_cow | darth_mall: yeah, they're here. |
| 20:46.13 | purple_cow | having trouble with fembot though =/ |
| 20:46.35 | numist | hey hardwire, can I use your service to get reliable satelite internet for my car/motorhome? |
| 20:46.42 | Cae | it seems cold there. |
| 20:46.48 | hardwire | numist: you can use starbands |
| 20:46.52 | Cae | cold=bad |
| 20:46.56 | numist | hardwire: do tell |
| 20:46.57 | hardwire | Cae: those are our survival suits |
| 20:47.01 | numist | Cae: looks nice in that pic.. |
| 20:47.02 | hardwire | for cold and falling off the boat |
| 20:47.09 | numist | hardwire: survival? wheres your mask :P |
| 20:47.13 | hardwire | its around 30degrees right then |
| 20:47.20 | numist | psh, positively balmy |
| 20:47.21 | hardwire | numist: I am ont in halo armor dude |
| 20:47.24 | hardwire | yeh |
| 20:47.26 | Cae | heh |
| 20:47.30 | hardwire | we all stripped a few seconds after that shot |
| 20:47.33 | numist | hehe halo armour.. as much as Id like to see that |
| 20:47.48 | numist | hardwire: starbands? |
| 20:47.58 | hardwire | we hauled 8 55 gallon drums.. a 600 lbps sat mount and the dish and batteries up a 25 foot steep hill |
| 20:48.00 | hardwire | numist: starband.com |
| 20:48.09 | hardwire | they have links on their site if you explore it enough.. for RV usage |
| 20:48.20 | numist | your telling me to use a compeditor :P |
| 20:48.27 | hardwire | eventually.. if you have a spectrum analyser.. you can get it aligned in around 10 minutes |
| 20:48.29 | numist | omg uploads up to 256kbps!!! |
| 20:48.36 | hardwire | or use the auto align |
| 20:48.36 | hardwire | yeh |
| 20:48.36 | hardwire | not at the moment |
| 20:48.37 | numist | hardwire: so no hope for mobile access? |
| 20:48.42 | hardwire | thats accellerated.. cimpressed |
| 20:48.51 | hardwire | compressed.. I typically get 20kbps up |
| 20:48.54 | numist | d'oh, so its probably 56k up :P |
| 20:48.58 | numist | doh |
| 20:49.02 | hardwire | doh indeed |
| 20:49.11 | hardwire | but i have crosspol errors right now |
| 20:49.17 | hardwire | I need to go realign it quite a bit |
| 20:49.20 | hardwire | going to do that tonight |
| 20:49.33 | numist | damn... I wonder if theres something that will allow me to use it while Im moving |
| 20:49.44 | hardwire | http://www.bogomip.com/~hardwire/happyface.jpg |
| 20:49.44 | hardwire | stripping |
| 20:49.47 | hardwire | you know you like it |
| 20:50.06 | Cae | lol |
| 20:50.14 | hardwire | that pole behind me is 150 years old |
| 20:50.20 | hardwire | it went to a supposed hydroelectric dam |
| 20:50.27 | hardwire | to power a villiage of around 150 people |
| 20:50.33 | Cae | heh |
| 20:50.33 | hardwire | before russians stole them |
| 20:50.43 | hardwire | thats where the native of st paul island came from |
| 20:50.53 | hardwire | st paul being a whopping 670nm away |
| 20:51.03 | numist | why do you say supposed hydroelectric dam... |
| 20:51.17 | hardwire | because this is about as remote as you can get |
| 20:51.28 | hardwire | there was no gov't assistance for alaska natives back them |
| 20:51.29 | hardwire | then |
| 20:51.34 | hardwire | so where did it come from |
| 20:51.36 | hardwire | who bought it? |
| 20:51.36 | hardwire | how did it work? |
| 20:51.40 | hardwire | absolutely nobody knows |
| 20:51.40 | Cae | because they were really using it to build nuclear wessels |
| 20:51.50 | hardwire | we have 10 archeologists right now that are trying to figure that out |
| 20:51.55 | hardwire | 2 are on our wessel |
| 20:52.15 | numist | nice |
| 20:52.19 | numist | thats totally cool |
| 20:52.33 | numist | in other news, what keyboard layout are you using? abcdef? |
| 20:52.47 | Cae | youbastard, actually |
| 20:52.48 | hardwire | are you mocking me? |
| 20:52.56 | Cae | er, youbasterd |
| 20:53.24 | Cae | sometimes. good ol' ibm rearrangeable keyboards |
| 20:53.43 | hardwire | I know.. I can't type worth a damn :) |
| 20:53.49 | numist | hardwire: hardly.. just wondered how you got wessel from vessel |
| 20:53.52 | Cae | (yes, that keyboard does actually exist) |
| 20:53.56 | numist | I mean... gawsh |
| 20:53.57 | hardwire | the ruskis did it |
| 20:54.00 | Cae | because I said wessel |
| 20:54.04 | Cae | because he said russian |
| 20:54.10 | hardwire | see.. cae cracked a star trek joke |
| 20:54.15 | Cae | ever watched original star trek? |
| 20:54.31 | hardwire | the wessels the wessels! |
| 20:54.33 | numist | in soviet russia, archaologists discover you! |
| 20:54.36 | Cae | :P |
| 20:54.38 | numist | /lame |
| 20:54.52 | Cae | yes, you are, but we forgive you :P |
| 20:55.01 | Cae | I need something to do |
| 20:55.07 | hardwire | numist: you made me lol |
| 20:55.12 | numist | woot |
| 20:55.13 | hardwire | that distrubed everybody around me |
| 20:55.18 | hardwire | trubed! |
| 20:55.28 | numist | omfgtrubed!!! |
| 20:55.28 | Cae | hehe |
| 20:55.42 | Cae | no, no. omgwtftrubed! |
| 20:55.56 | numist | omgwtfsatelitrubedcube! |
| 20:55.58 | hardwire | so |
| 20:56.00 | hardwire | there is a 90 year old farmer on the boat |
| 20:56.01 | hardwire | well |
| 20:56.03 | hardwire | more like 70 |
| 20:56.04 | Cae | lol |
| 20:56.08 | hardwire | he is munchkin sized |
| 20:56.10 | hardwire | can't hear worth a damn |
| 20:56.22 | hardwire | I constantly have to explain how the telephones work on the boat |
| 20:56.38 | hardwire | to talk to the rest of the world |
| 20:56.38 | hardwire | to everybody |
| 20:56.38 | hardwire | but |
| 20:56.38 | hardwire | him |
| 20:56.45 | hardwire | he knows more about what I am doing than anybody else on the boat |
| 20:56.50 | hardwire | he knew why I needed solar collectors |
| 20:56.54 | hardwire | he knows what voip is.. and uses it at home |
| 20:57.06 | hardwire | just an amazing guy |
| 20:57.10 | hardwire | his name is Skook |
| 20:57.21 | numist | and hes an old timer |
| 20:57.25 | numist | that rawks |
| 20:57.29 | hardwire | yup |
| 20:57.37 | numist | never had that happen with me |
| 20:57.49 | numist | o/t, what did you need collectors for? |
| 20:59.28 | hardwire | this install is 60 miles from anywhere with power |
| 20:59.37 | hardwire | no roads go here either |
| 20:59.40 | hardwire | just a lot of boats |
| 20:59.47 | hardwire | and not many of them can berth to land |
| 20:59.49 | numist | I figured youd hook into the ships inverters |
| 20:59.57 | hardwire | so we needed solar panels to maintain the batteries |
| 21:00.05 | hardwire | numist: that picture is me on the shore :) |
| 21:00.14 | hardwire | and the ships inverter is a 500hp engine. |
| 21:00.41 | hardwire | http://www.bogomip.com/~hardwire/happyface.jpg |
| 21:00.52 | hardwire | that shows the white battery box on the mast of the quadpod sat dish mount |
| 21:01.00 | hardwire | two 6 volt 225AH batteries |
| 21:01.06 | numist | see, I figured 500hp would provide enough wattage |
| 21:01.12 | hardwire | and the solar panels off to the right |
| 21:01.14 | numist | wow, serious batteries |
| 21:01.23 | hardwire | numist: yes.. but there is no cord going 1.25nm from the boat to the shore |
| 21:01.40 | hardwire | otherwise I would install a fucking KuBand sat dish that needs 300 watts constant to run :) |
| 21:01.47 | purple_cow | goddamnit |
| 21:01.51 | purple_cow | wtf is X doing? |
| 21:02.19 | Cae | okay, bye :) |
| 21:02.46 | numist | right |
| 21:03.00 | numist | I figured you had the net set up shipside, not landside |
| 21:03.42 | hardwire | we wiggle too much |
| 21:03.44 | hardwire | and move around |
| 21:03.55 | hardwire | I don't want to be out here the full 6 months onstantly readjusting the dish |
| 21:04.08 | hardwire | that and this is for more than one boat |
| 21:04.28 | hardwire | in order to duplicate the signal.. I concocted a bulletproof debian install that goes on compact flash pretty well |
| 21:04.43 | hardwire | and got some wireless routers w/ 2 pci slots |
| 21:04.51 | hardwire | and threw 2 200mw radios on each one |
| 21:04.54 | numist | nice |
| 21:04.55 | hardwire | one for the mesh network |
| 21:04.58 | hardwire | one for key restricted ap |
| 21:05.00 | numist | crazy |
| 21:05.08 | numist | the bandwidth must be insanely horrible though |
| 21:05.09 | hardwire | I am going to replace all of them with 400mw ones now |
| 21:06.01 | hardwire | for the starband? |
| 21:06.09 | hardwire | once I realign the feedhorn assy.. it should be better |
| 21:06.21 | hardwire | going to try using a 2.8kbps codec :) |
| 21:07.11 | numist | sheesh |
| 21:07.16 | numist | squeezing the bits out... |
| 21:07.20 | hardwire | yeh |
| 21:07.21 | hardwire | lcp10 |
| 21:07.24 | hardwire | mr roboto |
| 21:07.52 | numist | you should put screen on the main debian box, irssi from there, and just count it as extra overhead :P |
| 21:11.57 | hardwire | hah |
| 21:12.08 | hardwire | actually I have irc on the boats for the captian and unified command |
| 21:12.16 | hardwire | no more really crappy phone service for instant communications |
| 21:12.27 | hardwire | however all these guys know how to typ with is their pinky fingers |
| 21:12.43 | hardwire | starband dropped the "e" in type |
| 21:12.45 | hardwire | :) |
| 21:13.01 | hardwire | either way.. those are 10db omnis |
| 21:13.06 | hardwire | 200mw radio |
| 21:13.08 | hardwire | not a bad snr |
| 21:13.13 | hardwire | 4.5nm todayt |
| 21:13.18 | hardwire | thats on a good day |
| 21:13.24 | hardwire | but i am happy about that |
| 21:13.26 | hardwire | no directional at 4.5nm |
| 21:13.37 | hardwire | nautical miles.. not nano meters |
| 21:13.47 | numist | hardwire: well, you drop the e so you have less data to transmit == higher speed ;) |
| 21:13.53 | numist | hardwire: irc for the capts... rawk |
| 21:13.57 | hardwire | indeed |
| 21:14.02 | hardwire | I have to go find my ride out of here |
| 21:14.08 | numist | heckilopter? |
| 21:14.12 | hardwire | c-ya |
| 21:14.12 | hardwire | no |
| 21:14.21 | hardwire | unified command has a small boat they are taking out of the bay today |
| 21:14.26 | hardwire | I might talk contracts while I am on the boat. |
| 21:14.28 | numist | woo |
| 21:14.32 | hardwire | woo |
| 21:14.33 | numist | have fun |
| 21:14.35 | hardwire | ta |
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| 21:19.42 | darth_mall | boat! |
| 21:20.51 | *** join/#tacobeam cluecon[file] (~file@mctn1-142166196157.nb.aliant.net) |
| 21:35.06 | purple_cow | http://navi.cx/gallery/hardware/terabyte |
| 21:35.57 | numist | navi is a laptop? |
| 21:36.02 | numist | 0_o |
| 21:36.15 | numist | how much did those disks all cost?? 0_o |
| 21:36.45 | purple_cow | navi's not a laptop |
| 21:36.50 | numist | I know, I kid |
| 21:36.59 | darth_mall | purple_cow: do you have a pic of fembot? |
| 21:37.02 | darth_mall | was gonna show Jody |
| 21:37.17 | purple_cow | disks were $445 shipped, enclosures were about $85 shipped |
| 21:37.21 | numist | no kidding |
| 21:37.22 | purple_cow | darth_mall: no, i can take one |
| 21:37.29 | numist | $445 isnt bad at all.. whered you buy from? |
| 21:37.38 | purple_cow | "computer 3G" |
| 21:39.09 | numist | sounds dodgy... they a .com shop or a local shop? |
| 21:39.25 | purple_cow | .com |
| 21:39.34 | numist | cool, Ill have a look |
| 21:39.51 | purple_cow | just did whatever decent-quality drives on pricewatch were cheapest |
| 21:40.24 | numist | ah, good call |
| 21:40.24 | darth_mall | lies! |
| 21:41.15 | purple_cow | http://navi.cx/gallery/hardware/fembot |
| 21:41.33 | purple_cow | crappy lighting |
| 21:45.28 | numist | ? |
| 21:45.34 | darth_mall | bad purple_cow, fix the lighting |
| 21:45.46 | darth_mall | I demand professional quality hardware images |
| 21:45.53 | numist | what part of that pic is fembot? |
| 21:46.05 | purple_cow | the silver thing under the amp |
| 21:46.13 | darth_mall | noooo |
| 21:46.14 | numist | rawk |
| 21:46.16 | darth_mall | you shouldn't have told him |
| 21:46.22 | darth_mall | it's like "Where's Waldo" |
| 21:46.30 | numist | looks like a modified xbox to take proper usb connections |
| 21:46.40 | numist | well, I figured it was that, the lp, or the lava lamp :P |
| 21:46.48 | numist | or the lcd readout on top of the amp |
| 21:46.51 | purple_cow | lp? |
| 21:46.58 | numist | isnt that an lp on top of the playstation? |
| 21:47.04 | numist | phonograph |
| 21:47.07 | darth_mall | nope |
| 21:47.08 | numist | grammophone |
| 21:47.09 | darth_mall | genesis |
| 21:47.10 | numist | no? |
| 21:47.12 | numist | aahh |
| 21:47.15 | numist | even better |
| 21:47.55 | purple_cow | darth_mall: so, can i plug one of these disks into unic and you'll mount it for me? |
| 21:48.34 | darth_mall | *sigh* |
| 21:48.36 | darth_mall | I suppose |
| 21:49.18 | numist | so what is fembot then? |
| 21:49.27 | darth_mall | a computer |
| 21:49.31 | numist | ... |
| 21:49.34 | darth_mall | ... ... |
| 21:49.37 | numist | I figured as much |
| 21:49.42 | numist | whats its purpose |
| 21:49.43 | darth_mall | then why'd you ask? |
| 21:49.49 | numist | bah! |
| 21:49.50 | darth_mall | ;) |
| 21:49.58 | darth_mall | it are purple_cow's fanciful set top box of doom |
| 21:50.01 | darth_mall | and great justice |
| 21:50.12 | numist | for grea justice |
| 21:50.16 | darth_mall | it is not, however, made of candy |
| 21:50.29 | numist | ! why not? |
| 21:50.37 | darth_mall | because candy isn't very conductive |
| 21:51.58 | numist | well, you could have made the shell out of candy... |
| 21:52.25 | darth_mall | nope |
| 21:52.27 | darth_mall | pirates |
| 21:54.35 | purple_cow | huh. what's unic's IP? |
| 21:54.41 | darth_mall | 10.0.0.54 |
| 21:54.51 | darth_mall | I think |
| 21:54.56 | darth_mall | yep |
| 21:55.09 | darth_mall | for some reason it started using abacaxi's IP the way it was supposed to |
| 21:55.11 | numist | hey thats not a public IP |
| 22:03.51 | purple_cow | darth_mall: ok. if you could mount sdb1 somewhere, i'd be obliged :) |
| 22:04.23 | purple_cow | this fully-hotpluggable-terabyte thing is weird |
| 22:04.56 | numist | damn, dude, dont even say it until I have a TB somewhere |
| 22:05.31 | purple_cow | hehe |
| 22:08.31 | purple_cow | hmm |
| 22:08.39 | purple_cow | this disk i've been filling is getting surprisingly warm |
| 22:13.28 | purple_cow | (star trek TAS) |
| 22:20.36 | darth_mall | purple_cow: /mnt/point |
| 22:21.35 | purple_cow | thanks |
| 22:21.39 | darth_mall | np |
| 22:28.31 | darth_mall | wow... I love being a retard |
| 22:28.37 | darth_mall | it makes my life so much more interesting |
| 22:32.43 | purple_cow | darth_mall: care to emerge usbutils? |
| 22:32.50 | darth_mall | nope |
| 22:32.53 | darth_mall | or... maybe |
| 22:34.31 | darth_mall | purple_cow: done and done |
| 22:41.34 | darth_mall | bleh |
| 22:41.37 | darth_mall | this is so annoying |
| 22:45.10 | purple_cow | :) |
| 22:45.19 | numist | this is really cool |
| 22:45.34 | numist | can you give it seed data? (like, a seed image to play with?) |
| 22:45.58 | numist | or is it based on abcd(basically) only |
| 22:47.10 | purple_cow | pretty much based on the parameters only. you can mess with the initial conditions if you turn on emphasize transient |
| 22:47.17 | numist | I see... |
| 22:47.19 | purple_cow | there's an image-based IC mode, but it's not exposed in 1.0 |
| 22:47.27 | darth_mall | huh... The White Stripes have a new cd coming out next week |
| 22:47.27 | darth_mall | yay |
| 22:47.44 | numist | well, Ima wait for the first render to read a quality of ${NUMISTHAPPY} and then start fiddling |
| 22:48.05 | orchid | darth_mall: did you see the dvd they put out? |
| 22:48.13 | darth_mall | nope |
| 22:48.29 | orchid | ooh, you must |
| 22:49.18 | darth_mall | yes |
| 22:49.28 | darth_mall | where by "one day" I'm sure you mean "right now" |
| 22:49.38 | orchid | heh |
| 22:50.05 | *** part/#tacobeam kergoth (~kergoth@covenant.kergoth.com) |
| 22:50.22 | numist | is there a max quality in fyre? |
| 22:50.22 | orchid | but id have to boot my laptop, which means getting up and walking downstairs |
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| 22:51.11 | purple_cow | sweet |
| 22:51.15 | purple_cow | taquitos.net has an RSS feed |
| 22:51.31 | purple_cow | numist: not really |
| 22:51.40 | numist | just checking |
| 22:52.13 | purple_cow | numist: there's definitely a point at which you max out your display :) |
| 22:53.09 | darth_mall | purple_cow: yep, I set it up here at work |
| 22:53.34 | darth_mall | because having a gdesklet displaying the rss feed from taquitos.net is vital to my productivity |
| 22:57.11 | numist | so how is that done then? I cant visualise the math in my head behind the image output... |
| 22:57.17 | numist | I get the algorithm for y' and x'... |
| 22:57.28 | numist | is it really just that simple? |
| 22:58.14 | purple_cow | kinda sorta |
| 22:58.37 | purple_cow | it iterates that equation for (x', y'), then applies all the other transformations (like rotation, etc), then plots a point on the histogram |
| 22:59.17 | numist | so, given your current x or y, run your position through the equation, and then record the x',y' on the output image? |
| 22:59.19 | purple_cow | the math to compute points is trivial. the algorithm for rendering the histogram is simple but less trivial |
| 22:59.25 | purple_cow | numist: right |
| 22:59.27 | numist | hrm |
| 22:59.36 | numist | I want to try this to see how badly it turns out |
| 22:59.51 | numist | doesnt that mean you have a limit to the number of times you can iterate though? |
| 23:00.10 | purple_cow | nope |
| 23:00.16 | numist | the width * the height? |
| 23:00.23 | numist | hrm.. why is that? |
| 23:00.29 | purple_cow | it's an iterative equation |
| 23:00.42 | numist | iterating over the image.. I thought the iteration was bounded |
| 23:01.03 | purple_cow | you start with random x and y, come up with a new point from the equation, plot that, feed it back into the equation, plot that, etc |
| 23:01.09 | numist | aaahhh |
| 23:01.22 | numist | so, really.. your initial 6 values are all random |
| 23:01.28 | numist | (or x, y are 1) |
| 23:02.06 | purple_cow | initial 6 values? |
| 23:02.07 | numist | ok, so how do you limit the output to stay within an image that is w x h? |
| 23:02.14 | numist | x,y,a,b,c,d |
| 23:02.25 | numist | where 4 of those are const |
| 23:02.28 | purple_cow | a,b,c and d can be considered constants |
| 23:02.29 | purple_cow | yeah |
| 23:03.05 | purple_cow | well, the equation itself is bounded, so the point will never fly off into infinity - if you do something like zoom in, we just throw out points that don't fall on the image region |
| 23:03.14 | numist | right |
| 23:03.26 | numist | hrm... the equation is bounded to values that are... |
| 23:03.48 | numist | -2 > x > 2, right? |
| 23:03.55 | numist | no wait.. - |
| 23:04.03 | numist | so.. -1 < x < 1 |
| 23:04.28 | numist | so just mul by some value to create an image of some size |
| 23:04.28 | numist | and roundoff |
| 23:04.58 | purple_cow | [-2,2] |
| 23:05.16 | numist | err.. oh right |
| 23:05.27 | numist | god its been a while since Ive thought about math |
| 23:05.28 | kergoth | so my dad bought me a 146GB Ultra320 10,000rpm SCSI Seagate Cheetah for my birthday, along with his old U160 scsi controller and a cable for it |
| 23:05.59 | numist | damn, kergoth |
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| 23:07.32 | numist | purple_cow: permissable values for a,b,c,d are sizeof(float)? |
| 23:08.54 | purple_cow | technically, i guess. the gui limits them to [-100,100] |
| 23:08.59 | numist | good idea |
| 23:10.01 | numist | herm..... what language does all the background processing? c? |
| 23:11.17 | purple_cow | background processing? |
| 23:11.31 | numist | the actual iteration |
| 23:11.57 | purple_cow | all of fyre is written in C, except for a tiny bit of C++ if you've got openexr support |
| 23:12.01 | purple_cow | at least for 1.0 |
| 23:12.23 | numist | 2.0 will be more c++ or less? |
| 23:12.37 | purple_cow | we're doing 2.0 in C# with mono |
| 23:12.41 | numist | 0_o |
| 23:12.48 | numist | I cant see that being nearly as fast... |
| 23:13.34 | purple_cow | the preliminary tests i did showed it being about the same speed as C - their JIT is really pretty great |
| 23:13.42 | numist | really... |
| 23:13.46 | numist | wow, thats surprising |
| 23:35.48 | purple_cow | urgh |
| 23:35.54 | purple_cow | wtf is going on with fembot? :( |
