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00:32.46darth_mallyay! purple_cow's back
00:32.50darth_mallhow's your sister?
00:33.21purple_cowgood
00:33.38darth_mallwhat was her GPA, if you don't mind my asking
00:34.02purple_cowdunno yet
00:34.19darth_malloh
00:34.20darth_mallhehe
00:34.54darth_mallhmm... I never did watch last week's, did I?
00:38.28purple_cowwow, this is totally awesome
00:38.35purple_cowit's like the entire pertwee series is up on mininova
00:38.37darth_mallneon, nuclear pants?
00:41.34purple_cowsure
00:41.44darth_mallwe should play freeciv tonight
00:42.05purple_cowor go see that movie
00:42.11darth_mallwhat movie?
00:42.12ChipX86or play freeciv at that movie
00:42.21purple_cowthe star wars thing
00:42.25darth_malloh, maybe
00:42.37darth_malldon't you think it'd be pretty packed on a saturday night on opening weekend, though?
00:42.38ChipX86yay Ep. 3
00:43.41purple_cowdarth_mall: *shrug*
00:44.04merlin262it wasn't at all packed when I went
00:44.16darth_mallmerlin262: yeah, but you're some kind of magical movie going elf
00:44.26darth_mallso it's hardly the same thing
00:44.33merlin262hehe
00:44.38kergothmore elves need to go to see movies
00:44.51ChipX86it was semi-packed when I was there, but of course, it was mostly all us
00:45.23darth_mallpacked with peanuts?
00:45.30purple_cowhmm, only a couple hours until we have all of buck rogers
00:45.40darth_mallhmmmmmmm!
00:51.32darth_mallpurple_cow: any idea where lurgy disappeared off to?
01:14.25ChipX86http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20050521/od_afp/afpentertainmentit_050521000058
01:14.27ChipX86hah
01:14.43ChipX86they want girls to play Tomb Raider, so they're going to reduce her chest size
01:14.51darth_mallboooooooooooo
01:15.14kergothhah
01:15.15ChipX86they should just make a Tomb Raider game with a guy that girls would drool over
01:16.28merlin262hehe
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06:09.30*** topic/#tacobeam is And if that doesn't work, I got you a six-pack of champagne and a funnel!
06:14.23ChipX86I so wish CIA was working tonight
06:20.50kergothChipX86: http://www.pvponline.com/archive.php3?archive=20050403
06:21.41ChipX86haha
06:21.42ChipX86so true
06:28.15ChipX86http://www.pvponline.com/archive.php3?archive=20050408
06:28.55rioterurgh
06:28.59riotertug-of-peace
06:29.23ChipX86you know what's sad?
06:29.34ChipX86I read that as liberals, as in lib erals
06:29.48kergothhah
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06:59.59ChipX86yay, broke galago
07:00.05numistyay!
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07:06.32spooklightgood night
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07:06.46ChipX86*hugs*
07:06.55spooklight*hugs*
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15:29.17zakok, so who wants to send me dr.who 108?
15:29.26zakbittorrent keeps stalling
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16:33.11darth_mallhmm... I need to find something for breakfast
16:34.40hardwireI am eating an omelette the boats cookie made up today
16:34.42hardwireand holy crap
16:34.46hardwireits slightly gigantic
16:35.01hardwireI have seen larger trout.. but only by a little.
16:37.27darth_mallawesome
16:40.39hardwireit is
16:40.44hardwirethe awesome egg
16:40.45hardwireok
16:40.49hardwiregoing for a 10 hours boat ride
16:40.51hardwirebleh
16:40.57hardwirehope I don't heave maaaan
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16:44.32darth_mallhehe
16:47.47darth_mallsilly laodamas
17:03.55kergothyay social distortion
17:27.38darth_mallyay indeed
18:01.32darth_malluhoh... somebody woke up ChipX86
18:03.10filenot me!!!
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19:20.40purple_cowooh, p.g.o has the sexy new layout
19:21.59ChipX86wow
19:22.11ChipX86it's going to screw with screenshots though
19:23.11ChipX86maybe not
19:25.19darth_malluhoh... purple_cow is up
19:25.25darth_malls
19:26.02darth_mallthat's kinda scary, but way cool
19:26.12purple_cowugh, the IO rate on flapjack was killed again
19:26.17purple_cowwhich is why CIA is broken
19:46.32TDIO rate was killed?
19:46.42numist0_o
19:47.13ChipX86oohh
19:47.20ChipX86pretzels + peanut butter cups == good
19:50.08darth_mall^^
19:51.00numistvv
20:06.59darth_mallHallski?
20:07.09ChipX86an idiot gnome guy that likes conflict
20:07.12ChipX86he runs imendio
20:07.51purple_cowwhat's he done now?
20:08.11TDheh
20:08.13TDhiya ChipX86
20:08.16ChipX86he's just pestering mathrick because mathrick doesn't like using IDEs
20:08.23ChipX86hey TD
20:08.47merlin262anyone here live near Raliegh, NC?
20:08.51ChipX86I just wan to tell him to knock it off
20:09.15merlin262~lart darth_mall
20:09.23purple_cowdarth_mall: SATA is IDE :P
20:09.33TDChipX86: tell me about sexy new technology that will make my life easier
20:09.43ChipX86TD: what kind?
20:09.49TDdunno. software kinds.
20:11.27TDi got tomboy up and running lately
20:11.27TDit's cute. but it's at that stage where i go, "hmm that's really cute but it needs X and Y and Z doing before it's totally usable" :)
20:11.39TDpurple_cow: what does "IO rate was killed" mean - linode throttle sockets?
20:11.46ChipX86god I hate this guy
20:12.05ChipX86I'm still pissed at him about going around bashing galago back then
20:12.34purple_cowTD: linode has an I/O throttle via "tokens"
20:12.54purple_cowyou get a certain number of tokens per second, and every time you want to do I/O you use up a token
20:12.56TDChipX86: i'm still trying to figure out how imendio intends to make money
20:13.01ChipX86TD: no clue
20:13.05TDpurple_cow: oh. eek.
20:13.09TDit doesn't mention that on the website
20:13.13ChipX86some of their stuff is alright. But I'm just tired of hearing from Hallski
20:13.32ChipX86he reminds me of the guy that runs.. what's it called.. that one KDE company..
20:13.37purple_cowthe linode admins seem to mistake CIA's db maintenance for swap-thrashing annoyingly often, and so they drop the refill rate to something below what CIA needs to function
20:13.52TD:(
20:14.03TDis it possible to throttle the db maint?
20:14.47purple_cowthe db maintenance isn't the problem
20:15.00purple_cowthe problem is the admins not realizing that it's real I/O and not thrashing
20:18.59darth_mallwow...
20:19.09darth_mallsomeone just joined #commits with the nick, "Hentai"
20:19.17ChipX86hah
20:19.26ChipX86#freematrix
20:20.53TDwhat is #freematrix?
20:21.16ChipX86radio station that more or less forked from Freenode Radio
20:21.34ChipX86the Hentai guy sounded familiar. I'm wondering if he wsa in #fnr back in the day
20:23.27TDah
20:23.38ChipX86D-BUS's new recursive types system is killing me
20:24.13TDhow so?
20:24.23ChipX86I have an array and I want to append structs into it
20:24.29ChipX86apparently, nobody has ever done this before
20:24.32ChipX86and I can't get it to work
20:24.50TDugh
20:24.53TDbugs or design problems?
20:24.57ChipX86bugs I imagine
20:25.03TD:(
20:25.07ChipX86but they have some odd stuff in this whole design
20:25.12TDit sounds like 0.30 isn't really ready for primetime
20:25.13TDlike what?
20:25.22ChipX86every D-BUS type is represented as a char
20:25.24ChipX86which is fine
20:25.31ChipX86and you pass those around when appending data
20:25.40ChipX86but you have a couple special ones, the dict, array, and struct
20:25.46ChipX86and those have begin and end chars
20:25.58ChipX86so you can't pass one single thing, and must instead pass different constants representing start and end
20:26.04ChipX86they just append automatically to become a string
20:26.34TDhuh?
20:26.56ChipX86yeah. Not surprising. :(
20:27.00ChipX86ok
20:27.04ChipX86so you have:
20:27.09ChipX86DBUS_TYPE_STRUCT for structs
20:27.11ChipX86DBUS_TYPE_ARRAY for arrays
20:27.12ChipX86etc
20:27.19TDok
20:27.29ChipX86but if I want to append an array of structs, you can't pass DBUS_TYPE_STRUCT as the element type
20:27.44ChipX86you must pass something like DBUS_STRUCT_BEGIN_CHAR_AS_STRING DBUS_STRUCT_END_CHAR_AS_STRING
20:27.54ChipX86but then it's an empty struct signature, and I can't seem to pass things into it
20:28.00ChipX86so I apparently need to know beforehand in this case what's going into it
20:28.07ChipX86which isn't consistent with just appending a normal struct
20:28.12ChipX86and it can't always be known ahead of time anyway
20:30.17TDis this when using a varargs appending function?
20:30.24ChipX86nope
20:30.32ChipX86in the case of those macros above, they are really just chars
20:30.42ChipX86and in C, you can go 'a' 'b' 'c' and get a "abc" out of it
20:31.19TDyeah
20:31.25TDi remember that bit
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20:32.05TDso you do a iter_open_container(..., "signature of struct", ...);
20:32.13ChipX86right
20:32.37TDhmm
20:32.42TDi don't see any functions to deal with structs
20:32.45TDonly arrays
20:32.47ChipX86they're just containers
20:33.16TDso then you do *another* iter_open_container to append the fields of the struct
20:33.23ChipX86yeah
20:33.42TDappend the basic types in the struct
20:33.44TDclose the container
20:33.45TDrepeat ...
20:33.51ChipX86right
20:33.55ChipX86and it's not working
20:33.58TDoh
20:34.00ChipX86I get assertion errors
20:34.12ChipX86what's weird is that one object is appended successfully
20:34.15ChipX86and then it asserts
20:36.20ChipX86trying something
20:36.40ChipX86nope.
20:36.43ChipX86of course not. *sigh*
20:44.22ChipX86ah, I was wrong about being able to append one
20:44.31ChipX86I'm appending a struct in a struct and then it's blowing up
20:44.37ChipX86in an array
20:44.40ChipX86but it works outside of an array
20:45.14fileI need to find someone to go to the club tonight with
20:54.41darth_mallbah
20:54.43darth_mallcedega is junk
20:54.48ChipX86yep
20:58.57ChipX86wikimedia templates rock
21:04.19darth_mallwhy is it that pretty much every guest comic on 8-bit is about BM and WM?
21:04.35TDhmmm
21:04.36TDthis is annoying
21:04.41TDthere was a thing on the mozilla wiki. and it's gone.
21:05.21numisthehe, that happens with wikis
21:05.57TDXTF, that was it
21:26.51purple_cowyay buck rogers
21:37.46purple_cowand yay for twiki
21:38.17ChipX86yay for mediawiki
21:41.10ChipX86http://galago.info/wiki/First-Time_Installation_Guide#Gentoo_Installation
21:42.33ChipX86kergoth: ironforge is SLOW
21:42.39kergothChipX86: no kidding
21:42.47ChipX86how have they let this stay like this?
21:42.54kergothdunno
21:43.00kergothand we thought orgrimmar was bad over on killrogg
21:43.01kergothheh
21:43.03ChipX86yeah
21:43.07ChipX86that was nothing
21:43.19kergothit might have lagged, but at least _shit worked_
21:43.31ChipX86yeah.
21:44.19kergothChipX86: cool addon. "auctionit".  it adds a bunch of cool auctioning things, like remembering what you auctioned something for last time, so you dont forget :)
21:46.28ChipX86nice
21:47.13kergothalso has "bidsafe" and "bidlock", which warn you if you're about to spend too much for something
22:00.32purple_cowheh, i'd forgotten about the gay computer
22:03.59ChipX86?
22:06.03purple_cowin buck rogers
22:06.03purple_cowthere's a gay computer
22:08.49purple_cowi wish i could go to the future and steal everyone's hearts
22:10.47ChipX86kergoth: are you in?
22:11.33kergothChipX86: yeah, finally
22:11.55ChipX86going to hack autotravel and nuke the cheer. It's embarrassing :)
22:12.33kergothemotes are a seperate addon..
22:12.38kergothgo into addons and disable autotravelemotes
22:12.46kergoththat should take care of it
22:12.54ChipX86oh.
22:13.29kergothChipX86: found a small little addon called EnhancedDurability that makes the little gear damage display guy movable, so you can drag it below the titanbar
22:13.53kergothbefore his head was underneith it :)
22:21.56lurgyhmm
22:22.03lurgydarth_mall, purple_cow, everybody: freeciv?
22:22.47lurgyyay
22:22.57lurgyhmm
22:23.00darth_mallafter I tinkle
22:23.07lurgyi should get drew in on this
22:27.15lurgyhehe, apparently walt's girlfriend really liked the mahler
22:27.59darth_mallyay
22:29.18lurgypurple_cow: gonna do the server set-up, or shall i
22:29.32purple_cowyou go ahead
22:29.34purple_cowmake it wacky
22:29.35lurgyokeydoke
22:33.48lurgyhmm, it's claiming darth_mall has the 2.0.0-beta4 client
22:34.35darth_mallhmm
22:35.58lurgydarth_mall: if you did the ebuild thing for 2.0.1, see if you can just make uninstall from your 2.0.0-beta4 source
22:36.14lurgy2.0.0-beta4 got put in a more prominent place in the path
22:36.24darth_mallyeah
22:36.34darth_mallI'll fix that later
22:36.54lurgywhee
22:38.20lurgypurple_cow: are we on the new interweb yet?
22:38.33purple_cowno, i still haven't recieved the login details
22:38.41lurgymkay
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22:42.11darth_mallbuck rogers is so full of excellent music
22:42.41purple_cowi'm every bit the woman that the princess was, and i'm going to prove it to you!
22:42.44purple_cowwhat a hilarious show
23:07.24darth_mallhmm... these are a lot more mayonnaisey than last time
23:07.40filedarth_mall: you're making me hungry :(
23:08.48fileno but it's reminding me of the subs I have at school
23:10.52darth_mallmayo on white?
23:11.35purple_cowit's like those sammiches kendra was going to make
23:11.45filesilly darth_mall
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23:17.31purple_cowooh, looks like CIA is on the road to recovery
23:18.15ChipX86:D
23:19.31kergothyay
23:19.33kergothChipX86: wow
23:19.38kergothChipX86: world of warcraft just crashed and burned
23:19.44ChipX86what happened?
23:19.55kergothlike, "would you like to send this stack trace to blizzard" level of crash and burn
23:20.00ChipX86haha
23:20.06ChipX86well, with all those addons, I'm not surprised
23:20.10kergothhehe
23:20.36kergothChipX86: i think WIM pushed wow in some fashion.  i whispered a guy, heard the sound of it opening the chat window, and bam, toast.
23:21.41ChipX86kergoth: I see it
23:23.39fileChipX86: very productive?
23:23.45ChipX86semi
23:23.56fileinteresting answer
23:25.37CIA-6galago: 03chipx86 * r1847 10libgalago/ (ChangeLog libgalago/galago-core.c): PresenceAdded/Removed to PresenceSet/Unset.
23:26.22fileoh looky!
23:29.44ChipX86it's so slow
23:30.22purple_cowwhat do you expect? it's got a 3-day backlog :P
23:30.29ChipX86true
23:30.55purple_cowi'm pretty shocked it's recovering at all
23:32.21kergothChipX86: i'm finally in auberdine.
23:33.00ChipX86cool
23:39.26CIA-6galago: 03chipx86 * r1849 10galago-daemon/ (ChangeLog src/account.c): Support UnsetPresence.
23:43.16ChipX86ok back to the game
23:57.47kergothChipX86: lagged, probably going to disconnect :(
23:57.54ChipX86yep
23:58.03ChipX86all the badguys came in just as I was opening the crate :(
23:58.10kergoth:(
23:58.14ChipX86I got the contents, but I ran out of breath

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