| 00:01.38 | ChipX86 | darth_mall: WoW |
| 00:01.41 | ChipX86 | nullpuppy: WoW |
| 00:01.51 | ChipX86 | there, I have convinced the both of you |
| 00:01.56 | kergoth | nice work |
| 00:02.00 | kergoth | :) |
| 00:04.06 | darth_mall | heh |
| 00:05.39 | kergoth | :( |
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| 00:10.51 | CIA-3 | navi-misc: Kind of fixed the images in the context menu. Need to hook into |
| 00:10.51 | CIA-3 | navi-misc: the main window's change channel event |
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| 01:29.08 | CIA-3 | navi-misc: 03micah * r8310 10python/google/gstaticmap.py: Yep.. a Python script that will generate a 300 DPI .pdf with satellite imagery of Boulder, CO |
| 02:12.08 | CIA-3 | navi-misc: 03micah * r8311 10gps/ (. Makefile earthmate-usb-rx.c): I don't think this is quite working 100% correctly, but this might be a working NMEA receiver utility for the DeLorme Earthmate USB GPS receiver based on a little reverse engineering. |
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| 02:18.56 | laodamas | grr |
| 02:18.57 | laodamas | Tonight's Family Guy is recycles too many punch-lines |
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| 02:24.46 | rioter | grr |
| 02:24.48 | rioter | tonights family guy was to hard to find a torrent for after the mpaa closed down sites :( |
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| 02:29.41 | *** topic/#tacobeam is Today's interesting fact: there is only one underground station which has a name that does not contain any of the letters in "mackerel" |
| 02:30.19 | ChipX86 | who the hell knows |
| 02:30.30 | file | doesn't say why? |
| 02:35.47 | ChipX86 | they seem to be charging us when they shoulnd't... |
| 02:36.09 | file | oh just call, it'll get taken care of |
| 02:40.19 | numist | yeah, then theyll charge you for calling them.. $500 |
| 02:40.33 | numist | 'convenience charge' |
| 02:40.43 | ChipX86 | I think the bastards changed the plan on us |
| 02:40.58 | ChipX86 | also, they won't let me see any of my calls on their little invoice page |
| 02:41.00 | numist | they cant do that without notifying you... |
| 02:41.09 | ChipX86 | numist: unless the contract says otherwise |
| 02:41.10 | numist | those bitches! |
| 02:41.34 | numist | ChipX86: terms subject to change still means they have to notify you and give you the chance to cancel the plan before they take effect |
| 02:41.37 | numist | its teh law |
| 02:42.45 | ChipX86 | oh god damnit |
| 02:43.09 | ChipX86 | ok, so this is a family plan shared by me, my brother, and my mom |
| 02:43.13 | numist | ... |
| 02:43.16 | ChipX86 | and according to this, I do NOT have nights and weekends. |
| 02:43.37 | file | O.o |
| 02:43.42 | numist | 0_o |
| 02:43.55 | file | numist: your one eye is a little fuzzy, do you need glasses? |
| 02:43.57 | numist | tell em to change their tune or your gone.. Ive had to do that to sprint before |
| 02:44.08 | numist | file: those _are_ my glasses :P |
| 02:44.44 | ChipX86 | amazing how everything's just been sucking more and more lately |
| 02:44.53 | kergoth | :( |
| 02:45.04 | numist | cant be all bad.. youve got jamie :) |
| 02:45.07 | ChipX86 | I VERY CLEARLY said we all need nights and weekends when we got the service. It's common sense to make sure we get that |
| 02:45.11 | ChipX86 | numist: yeah but I can't fucking call her now |
| 02:45.26 | numist | haha true |
| 02:45.29 | ChipX86 | so they put nights and weekneds on the primary phone only |
| 02:45.30 | ChipX86 | bastards |
| 02:45.40 | numist | thats ridiculous |
| 02:47.52 | ChipX86 | are these any decent phone services left in the US? I'm getting someone new. |
| 02:51.10 | laodamas | I use net2phone. 2c/minute anywhere in the US as long as you have a landline. |
| 02:51.26 | ChipX86 | ick, I'm not paying that |
| 02:51.54 | numist | chip wants free as in beer |
| 02:52.08 | ChipX86 | paying during the day is fine. At night, it must be free |
| 02:52.16 | ChipX86 | I talk ~120-180 mins a night |
| 02:52.57 | ChipX86 | I'm fuming right now |
| 02:52.59 | kergoth | who are you going through atm? |
| 02:53.06 | ChipX86 | Sprint. |
| 02:53.37 | kergoth | ah |
| 02:54.54 | numist | sprints been good with me |
| 02:54.57 | numist | they fscked up once |
| 02:55.07 | numist | 4800$ |
| 02:55.10 | ChipX86 | what'd they do? |
| 02:55.12 | ChipX86 | holy shit |
| 02:55.16 | numist | and got that reversed and havent had a single problem |
| 02:55.30 | numist | I talk to carrie a lot at night too :P |
| 02:55.58 | numist | since then, though, Ive gotten free text messaging, free internet, and the normal free stuf |
| 02:57.28 | numist | by free internet, I can also use my phone as my laptop modem :D |
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| 03:04.54 | *** topic/#tacobeam is Today's interesting fact: there is only one underground station which has a name that does not contain any of the letters in "mackerel" |
| 03:05.09 | numist | yay |
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| 04:16.36 | kergoth | ChipX86: my night elf is level 10 and can tame a pet now :D |
| 04:17.19 | gonkulator | w00t |
| 04:17.20 | gonkulator | hey kergoth |
| 04:17.25 | kergoth | hey |
| 04:17.31 | ChipX86 | cool |
| 04:18.38 | gonkulator | hmm... |
| 04:18.45 | gonkulator | it would be good to resize these |
| 04:19.10 | gonkulator | http://jurpa.us/images/front.jpg and http://jurpa.us/images/side.jpg |
| 04:25.24 | gonkulator | hmm... |
| 04:25.42 | gonkulator | later slimspace|away |
| 04:25.54 | gonkulator | wb slim |
| 04:25.58 | gonkulator | oops |
| 04:26.01 | gonkulator | wb slimspace |
| 04:37.14 | gonkulator | this channel is no fun |
| 04:38.12 | laodamas | anyone who's anyone is now in the DLC watching Firefly |
| 04:38.18 | gonkulator | oh |
| 04:38.55 | merlin262 | hehe |
| 04:39.14 | merlin262 | hey gonkulator good to see you |
| 04:39.23 | wca | heh. |
| 04:40.10 | gonkulator | howdy merlin262 |
| 04:42.26 | gonkulator | and laodamas needs some free stuff |
| 04:43.38 | purple_cow | gonkulator: we don't know either |
| 04:45.16 | gonkulator | wca: who am you? |
| 04:45.46 | wca | gonkulator: another nobody |
| 04:46.33 | gonkulator | wca: ah, alright |
| 04:47.31 | merlin262 | gonkulator, you don't happen to live in NC do you? |
| 04:47.51 | gonkulator | nope |
| 04:49.01 | laodamas | http://cafescicolorado.org//cafe%20flyer%2017.pdf |
| 04:49.36 | merlin262 | ahhh, pitty |
| 04:49.53 | purple_cow | lurgy: yoyoyo |
| 04:53.37 | lurgy | heyhey purple_cow |
| 04:53.55 | purple_cow | hows life? |
| 04:54.07 | lurgy | it goes |
| 04:54.18 | lurgy | got back from bainbridge island with walt's family |
| 04:54.46 | purple_cow | i'm going to wager a guess you survived? |
| 04:55.44 | lurgy | good guess ;) |
| 04:56.49 | laodamas | I bet lurgy swum from bainbridge island to seattle after a daring escape |
| 04:57.15 | lurgy | yeah, there were some pretty scary trees there |
| 05:00.19 | lurgy | they scared me away real good |
| 05:03.51 | laodamas | the trees in Olympic National Park are scarier |
| 05:05.59 | lurgy | hehe, probably |
| 05:08.44 | gonkulator | oop, time to run |
| 05:08.47 | gonkulator | later everyone |
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| 05:14.43 | lurgy | trundle! |
| 05:15.47 | ChipX86 | they didn't make a mistake. We did. :/ |
| 05:16.00 | ChipX86 | there were a couple times when we started just a few mins before 9, the Nights and Weekends time |
| 05:16.06 | ChipX86 | and that's what got us |
| 05:16.27 | ChipX86 | so the morale of the story is, don't call until, say, 9:30, and assume that our watches aren't synced with Sprint's |
| 05:16.39 | wca | i bought a copy of H2G2 at border's in longmont today |
| 05:17.30 | ChipX86 | good. Which edition? |
| 05:18.01 | wca | 1979 |
| 05:18.16 | ChipX86 | hmm |
| 05:18.24 | ChipX86 | the old-style individuals? |
| 05:18.33 | wca | it's just a paperback rerelease |
| 05:18.42 | ChipX86 | of all 6 books or just one? |
| 05:18.54 | wca | there's 6 books? |
| 05:18.57 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 05:19.00 | ChipX86 | 5 official ones, and one short story |
| 05:19.10 | ChipX86 | you can usually get all of them in one single book for about $15-20 |
| 05:19.17 | wca | well there's 35 chapters |
| 05:19.21 | ChipX86 | oh. |
| 05:19.25 | ChipX86 | so you bought only one of the 6 |
| 05:19.28 | ChipX86 | what'd you spend on it? |
| 05:19.45 | wca | it doesn't say anything about other books so i thought it was the whole thing :/ |
| 05:19.49 | wca | $15 |
| 05:19.49 | ChipX86 | nope |
| 05:19.53 | ChipX86 | I'd take it back |
| 05:19.57 | wca | bleh |
| 05:22.04 | ChipX86 | the one with the doom bag follows no rules! |
| 05:23.30 | kergoth | man, i love the new system of a down so much |
| 05:24.08 | laodamas | wca: You want the guide with an ISBN of 0517149257 |
| 05:24.28 | ChipX86 | no you don't |
| 05:24.30 | ChipX86 | you want the bible one |
| 05:24.30 | kergoth | ChipX86: man, for like the past hour i've been painstakingly going through sites and stuff for wow addons. i'm emptying my addons dir, since 90% of it wasnt enabled anyway, downloading new versions of all the ones i do use.. time consuming |
| 05:24.38 | kergoth | heh |
| 05:26.00 | laodamas | ChipX86: that's the hard-cover 832 page $10 version |
| 05:26.01 | wca | whatever |
| 05:26.13 | ChipX86 | laodamas: I know |
| 05:26.31 | wca | i'll just take it back tomorrow and order the real version some other time |
| 05:26.36 | ChipX86 | the bible one with the gold plated edges and the little bookmark ribbon and very thing paper and all is the really awesome one |
| 05:26.42 | ChipX86 | though I have that one you have too |
| 05:26.44 | ChipX86 | and the individuals |
| 05:26.44 | wca | although tomorrow i may not have time since i'm going to boulder |
| 05:27.33 | ChipX86 | the bible one is so hard to find |
| 05:28.59 | lurgy | like a first edition or something? |
| 05:29.50 | laodamas | and I doubt that christians would like it |
| 05:32.00 | laodamas | Nah, the Marcionites' bible was greek |
| 05:32.01 | ChipX86 | I can't believe nobody has a picture of htis book online |
| 05:32.19 | ChipX86 | ohh here it is |
| 05:32.32 | ChipX86 | http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=377&item=8305740226&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW#ebayphotohosting |
| 05:32.36 | lurgy | hehe, well, i don't think a much larger number of christians read greek |
| 05:32.49 | lurgy | purple_cow: pink mohawk1 PINK MOHAWk1 |
| 05:32.59 | lurgy | erf, walt's shift key isn't too happy |
| 05:33.00 | purple_cow | lurgy: too late, already clean shaven ;) |
| 05:33.24 | purple_cow | it's pretty weird |
| 05:33.31 | lurgy | purple_cow: up top? |
| 05:33.34 | lurgy | oh my |
| 05:33.39 | purple_cow | no, not up top |
| 05:33.47 | lurgy | oh |
| 05:33.48 | lurgy | whew |
| 05:33.54 | lurgy | that's less weird then |
| 05:34.03 | lurgy | still leaves the pink mohawk option open |
| 05:34.24 | purple_cow | well, since yesterday it's a lot shorter up top, so a pink mohawk would have to wait at least a couple months |
| 05:34.25 | laodamas | just at little yarn and superglue and purple_cow can have his mohawk |
| 05:34.32 | wca | it's my fault, i should have researched the stupid book before trying to get a copy |
| 05:34.45 | ChipX86 | don't panic |
| 05:35.28 | purple_cow | hmm, my face is hating me |
| 05:35.39 | ChipX86 | sounds like a personal problem |
| 05:36.09 | purple_cow | ooh, *sweet* |
| 05:36.15 | laodamas | Or...http://www.garnierbeautybar.co.uk/manga/ (FLASH warning) |
| 05:36.24 | purple_cow | rodrigo decided on my patch for calendar publishing, and wants me to update it for HEAD :D |
| 05:36.29 | ChipX86 | nice |
| 05:36.48 | laodamas | Manga head hair gel! |
| 05:37.15 | ChipX86 | laundry time |
| 05:37.20 | purple_cow | hmm, laundry |
| 05:37.23 | purple_cow | that's a fantastic idea |
| 05:38.53 | lurgy | pants gel |
| 05:38.57 | lurgy | there's an even better idea |
| 05:39.20 | lurgy | it's like hair gel |
| 05:39.24 | lurgy | but for pats! |
| 05:40.11 | lurgy | er, pants |
| 05:40.39 | laodamas | digital pants gel |
| 05:41.44 | lurgy | yay |
| 05:45.34 | laodamas | minus another few billion points to humanity: http://e3girls.com/ (SFW) |
| 05:47.20 | laodamas | s/to/from |
| 05:48.37 | purple_cow | hehe |
| 05:53.49 | purple_cow | they get paid better than I do :P |
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| 05:56.47 | ChipX86 | it's not like they're stripping at the booths. They're just being video game characters, which isn't as bad |
| 05:56.50 | ChipX86 | heya :) |
| 05:56.57 | spooklight | hi |
| 05:56.59 | lurgy | wca: the sadness reflects more on the conference participants than the 'e3 girls' imho ;) |
| 05:57.05 | spooklight | who's stripping? |
| 05:57.08 | ChipX86 | who isn't? |
| 05:57.12 | laodamas | buenas noches todo usted ganado loco |
| 05:59.17 | ChipX86 | mmm.. nachos... |
| 05:59.49 | spooklight | ohh lala |
| 06:00.06 | spooklight | i hate nachos |
| 06:00.28 | ChipX86 | quarters truly are the king of the coin kingdom |
| 06:00.41 | ChipX86 | they're just happy and bubbly all the time |
| 06:00.47 | spooklight | and shiny |
| 06:01.02 | ChipX86 | people take them places, put them in the little chutes and they go "weee!" and end up down in a social area of happy quarter people |
| 06:01.34 | spooklight | someone needs sleep |
| 06:01.49 | ChipX86 | then eventually they end up in the bank, which really, is the money playground. It's just a fun litlte place of socialization and arrogance. Like, the quarters know they're better htan dimes and nickles and pennies. Especially pennies, which are the street bums of the coin world |
| 06:02.11 | ChipX86 | pennies are often foiund just living on the streets, alone, unwanted, and passer-bys just ignore htem |
| 06:02.42 | ChipX86 | but back to the quarters, they know very well that they're on top. They can even mock the dollar and get away with it. Like, "You may be worth more, but people trade you in for us!" |
| 06:03.38 | ChipX86 | but of course they don't even bother speaking to those $100 bills. The snooty, rich bastards, sitting there, somewhere, only coming out to socialize with other rich currency and people. They're not even good for anything typically, but they have deep wallets. Or they live in them. I dunno. |
| 06:03.51 | ChipX86 | I'm done. |
| 06:04.37 | spooklight | rich people probably use them quite a bit |
| 06:04.50 | spooklight | they rarely come my way... |
| 06:05.11 | ChipX86 | it's not uncommon for rich people and rich bills to socialize, but you never see a $100 bill inviting a $5 to hang out. |
| 06:05.25 | ChipX86 | sometimes, *sometimes* they'll hang around with $20 bills |
| 06:05.44 | ChipX86 | the $20 bills are snooty too, but at least they're humble about it |
| 06:06.21 | spooklight | yeah, $20 bills are probably my closest acquaintances |
| 06:14.08 | kergoth | ChipX86: found a cool wow addon |
| 06:14.09 | kergoth | ChipX86: mybank |
| 06:14.17 | kergoth | ChipX86: its all-in-one-inventory for the bank window |
| 06:14.18 | kergoth | ChipX86: :D |
| 06:14.20 | ChipX86 | that shows you your bank contents from anywhere |
| 06:14.21 | ChipX86 | yeah :) |
| 06:14.25 | kergoth | thats nifty |
| 06:14.25 | ChipX86 | I need to actually use that |
| 06:14.30 | kergoth | also |
| 06:14.34 | ChipX86 | poor Jamie's going to end up addicted to WoW when she comes here |
| 06:14.37 | kergoth | all-in-one-inventory is buggy as hell right now |
| 06:14.43 | kergoth | myinventory isnt, and actually has more features |
| 06:14.44 | ChipX86 | really? It's working for me |
| 06:14.50 | kergoth | i upgraded to the latest |
| 06:14.52 | kergoth | shit hit the fan |
| 06:14.53 | ChipX86 | ah |
| 06:15.06 | kergoth | myinventory though, at the top of the window, it shows the bags right |
| 06:15.13 | kergoth | when you mouseover an item in the ivnentory, it highlights which bag its in |
| 06:15.18 | ChipX86 | oohhhh |
| 06:15.21 | ChipX86 | I'm switching. |
| 06:15.21 | kergoth | when you mouseover a bag, it hightlights all the items in that bag! |
| 06:15.29 | ChipX86 | nice |
| 06:15.33 | kergoth | and, it marks all the squares belonging to a quiver/shot bag in black |
| 06:15.37 | kergoth | so you know whats what |
| 06:15.48 | kergoth | which was the main reason i loved it, since all-in-one-inventory kinda sucks for hunters |
| 06:16.11 | kergoth | ChipX86: once you load it, do a /myinventory config to pull up the configuration screen to tweak it |
| 06:19.18 | ChipX86 | I'll have to play with that later |
| 06:19.41 | ChipX86 | trying to think up fun stories to tell spooklight of things that hvae happened.. got any you recall? |
| 06:20.26 | spooklight | i just heard the one about the fan |
| 06:21.18 | kergoth | hmm |
| 06:24.32 | ChipX86 | http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=31387&item=4993557118&rd=1 |
| 06:26.45 | gonkulator | wow, back |
| 06:26.50 | gonkulator | and another person I haven't ever seen before |
| 06:26.54 | ChipX86 | who? |
| 06:27.31 | gonkulator | spooklight is one I haven't seen before |
| 06:27.41 | ChipX86 | spooklight's been here for as long as I can remember |
| 06:27.55 | purple_cow | heh |
| 06:28.47 | purple_cow | ChipX86: wow that's an ugly timepiece :P |
| 06:29.14 | ChipX86 | yep, but it's also kinda neat |
| 06:29.18 | ChipX86 | so neat that I just cannot understand it |
| 06:29.21 | ChipX86 | gonkulator: spooklight == Jamie |
| 06:29.31 | gonkulator | OH! |
| 06:29.57 | spooklight | thank you, nice to meet you! |
| 06:30.43 | gonkulator | which means I will be able to do baptisms and marriages |
| 06:30.52 | ChipX86 | cool |
| 06:30.56 | ChipX86 | I can only do one marriage |
| 06:31.09 | gonkulator | s/do/perform/ :) |
| 06:31.13 | ChipX86 | ah. |
| 06:31.19 | ChipX86 | I can't legally do that. |
| 06:32.40 | gonkulator | oh well |
| 06:33.22 | gonkulator | so spooklight, why did you pick spooklight as your nick? |
| 06:33.41 | spooklight | uh....... |
| 06:33.47 | spooklight | thinking..... |
| 06:34.01 | spooklight | hey, why did you pick gonkulator?? |
| 06:34.52 | kergoth | ChipX86: http://www.curse-gaming.com/modscreens.php?id=2010 |
| 06:34.57 | gonkulator | well, this is a great story! |
| 06:35.07 | gonkulator | gonkulator comes from Hogan's Heroes |
| 06:35.15 | spooklight | ok, let's hear it! |
| 06:35.18 | ChipX86 | kergoth: woahwee |
| 06:35.21 | gonkulator | its a device that blinks and flashes and looks really important... but really does nothing |
| 06:35.21 | spooklight | ??? |
| 06:35.24 | kergoth | ChipX86: :D |
| 06:35.30 | kergoth | ChipX86: there are a ton of additional plugins for that panel too |
| 06:35.45 | kergoth | ChipX86: can ditch the standalone clock, the total bag count display in the bagstatusmeters config, etc |
| 06:35.46 | gonkulator | so... I used it at a LAN party for unreal tournament, and pretty much wiped everyone out |
| 06:36.06 | ChipX86 | kergoth: there's so much coolness in that that anybody with that should automatically get a special color for their name |
| 06:36.12 | gonkulator | and one guy, in a moment of pure and total frustration, yelled "ARGH!!!, I just got GONKULATED!!" |
| 06:36.24 | gonkulator | and from that day, I couldn't have any other nick |
| 06:36.34 | spooklight | cool:) |
| 06:36.37 | ChipX86 | kergoth: what I want is something to tell me my number of engineering points, mining, etc. |
| 06:36.43 | ChipX86 | so I don't have to open up the windows to see it |
| 06:36.46 | kergoth | ChipX86: ooh, thatd be cool |
| 06:36.50 | spooklight | gonkulator: i like it |
| 06:36.54 | ChipX86 | kergoth: wanna add to that plugin? :) |
| 06:37.03 | ChipX86 | I'll give you a light armor kit for it |
| 06:37.47 | gonkulator | spooklight: me too :), so your turn |
| 06:38.20 | ChipX86 | ooh, 4 days until we see Star Wars |
| 06:38.41 | spooklight | gonkulator: i'm just really into ghost stories and stuff like that |
| 06:38.44 | kergoth | ChipX86: neat - http://ui.worldofwar.net/images/ui/1115698716ItemCounter.jpg |
| 06:38.47 | spooklight | so i though it fit |
| 06:39.03 | ChipX86 | kergoth: oh nice |
| 06:39.04 | spooklight | very mysterious-like |
| 06:39.07 | ChipX86 | I like that view |
| 06:39.14 | gonkulator | aaah |
| 06:39.33 | ChipX86 | it's similar to why I picked ChipX86, except not at all |
| 06:39.35 | gonkulator | neck even |
| 06:39.52 | kergoth | ChipX86: http://ui.worldofwar.net/images/ui/00640.titanpvpcooldown1.jpg shows how long your PVP status will last |
| 06:39.53 | spooklight | gonkulator: real ones? |
| 06:39.57 | gonkulator | yeah |
| 06:40.03 | spooklight | cool! |
| 06:40.12 | gonkulator | well... I wouldn't say cool |
| 06:40.15 | spooklight | gonkulator: personal experiences? |
| 06:40.18 | gonkulator | yeah |
| 06:40.20 | ChipX86 | kergoth: for the next time I accidentally wack a guy that's many levels higher than me with a dull stick? |
| 06:40.26 | kergoth | yep :) |
| 06:40.28 | spooklight | gonkulator: scary? |
| 06:41.08 | gonkulator | spooklight: one of the drawbacks of studying for the priesthood is that Satan comes after you, and I have had several encounters that left me unsettled inside |
| 06:42.02 | spooklight | gonkulator: yeah, i've never had any personal experiences w/ghosts but i'm sure if i did i'd be freaked out of my mind |
| 06:42.35 | kergoth | ChipX86: haha |
| 06:42.37 | kergoth | ChipX86: "For those of you who playing, but might have other responsibilities in lifeā¦ this is the AddOn for you! Never forget to put your clothes in the dryer, pack your lunch again or take your food out of the oven before your house sets fire! Alarm Clock Wrangler is a clock plug-in for Titan Panel, that lets the player set up to three custom alarms (see pictures)." |
| 06:42.57 | ChipX86 | pfft, who has time for a real life? |
| 06:43.09 | gonkulator | purple_cow: reality is far more vast than fiction |
| 06:44.10 | gonkulator | a man ran away screaming when I started praying for him |
| 06:44.58 | gonkulator | fiction writers don't make this stuff up, they take reality and twist it to make it look fake |
| 06:45.06 | ChipX86 | that's what I did with South Side |
| 06:46.26 | purple_cow | gonkulator: yeah, i just have a hard time taking people seriously when they attribute all bad or unusual things to "satan" |
| 06:46.47 | gonkulator | purple_cow: and to attribute all bad things to Satan is wrong |
| 06:47.07 | ChipX86 | yeah, there are the lesser-known demons, like that one that keeps giving me other people's boxer shorts |
| 06:47.09 | gonkulator | however, to discount his presence entirely is equally wrong |
| 06:47.39 | spooklight | beware the boxer-shorts demon!! |
| 06:47.48 | gonkulator | heh |
| 06:47.54 | purple_cow | gonkulator: maybe, but that's not really a debate that i'm willing to have anymore |
| 06:47.59 | ChipX86 | I have two pairs of boxer shorts that I don't own |
| 06:48.01 | ChipX86 | :( |
| 06:48.04 | gonkulator | purple_cow: why not? |
| 06:48.17 | spooklight | ChipX86: now that's scary! |
| 06:48.30 | ChipX86 | very. I should throw them away |
| 06:49.12 | spooklight | and hope they don't come back to haunt you.......mwahahahahahahaha! |
| 06:49.27 | purple_cow | gonkulator: well, i'm pretty sure that i'm not going to change your opinions on things, and equally if not more sure that you're not going to change mine, so the only result is that we'd both get angry |
| 06:50.19 | gonkulator | purple_cow: I just want to know what you think |
| 06:50.58 | ChipX86 | I can make you angry: |
| 06:51.01 | ChipX86 | There is no santa! |
| 06:51.10 | purple_cow | ChipX86: *sob* |
| 06:51.33 | spooklight | gonkulator: btw, i'm not into like really evil ghost stories or anything |
| 06:51.45 | gonkulator | spooklight: heh, what sort are you in to :) |
| 06:52.16 | spooklight | uh....ones that aren't evil, just strange |
| 06:52.16 | purple_cow | gonkulator: I've just yet to experience anything that I couldn't rationally explain, and I've yet to hear someone's "proof" of god/satan/whatever that wasn't complete nonsense |
| 06:53.14 | gonkulator | nod |
| 06:54.06 | purple_cow | given that, if there's something that I can't explain, i'm much more apt to believe that there's some information that I'm missing rather than that there's some cosmic power that for some reason is deciding to tinker with my reality |
| 06:54.57 | spooklight | it's fun when there's some mystery to it! |
| 06:55.53 | gonkulator | purple_cow: for 99.9% of everything, I agree with you completely |
| 06:57.08 | gonkulator | but its not the .1% that I bind my faith to |
| 06:58.42 | purple_cow | gonkulator: well, answer me this |
| 06:58.48 | gonkulator | ok |
| 06:59.33 | purple_cow | if you had something "that left you unsettled" happen to you when you were in that period when you had decided against the priesthood, would you have blamed it on satan? |
| 07:00.49 | gonkulator | at the time, probably not, but looking back, Satan didn't have much to do with what left me unsettled about that time period, as it was almost all (if not all) my doing |
| 07:02.05 | kergoth | ChipX86: dood! the AutoTravel addon, latest version, _works_ |
| 07:02.19 | kergoth | ChipX86: i'm setting up an autotravel path between dolanaar and darnassus |
| 07:02.56 | purple_cow | gonkulator: when were you made aware of the idea that satan "comes after you" ? |
| 07:03.42 | ChipX86 | kergoth: neat. I never got the other working in any way at all |
| 07:03.42 | ChipX86 | except it tried setting up course plots while I was flying a bat |
| 07:03.52 | kergoth | haha |
| 07:04.24 | kergoth | this one, i dont know if it has an autopath thing. i'm just adding the points as i go |
| 07:04.33 | kergoth | pretty easy when there arent _that_ many direction changes |
| 07:04.38 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 07:04.56 | gonkulator | purple_cow: when I turned away from destructive attitudes, and looked to become a person of total self-giving, thats when I started "feeling" forces against me |
| 07:05.12 | gonkulator | and I use the word feeling loosely, because its not quite the right word |
| 07:05.15 | ChipX86 | http://abcnews.go.com/WNT/Health/story?id=708780 |
| 07:06.42 | purple_cow | gonkulator: i'm talking about the idea, not your actual experiences |
| 07:06.59 | purple_cow | the way you phrased that sounded to me like someone else told you about this |
| 07:08.08 | gonkulator | since Satan's existance and intentions are in Scripture, I was first exposed to them a long time ago |
| 07:08.33 | ChipX86 | people, people, please.. *everyone* is wrong |
| 07:09.38 | gonkulator | ChipX86: since by your logic everyone is wrong, and you are part of everyone, does that make your statement wrong? |
| 07:09.50 | gonkulator | s/tco/taco/ |
| 07:09.50 | ChipX86 | I'm always wrong, but only when I am, and sometimes even then too |
| 07:10.48 | purple_cow | gonkulator: well, i'm talking about the specific idea that "satan goes after those studying for the priesthood", but it's not really important |
| 07:10.53 | purple_cow | here's the crux of my argument: |
| 07:11.20 | purple_cow | you're in an environment where you're surrounded by these kinds of ideas almost every waking moment |
| 07:11.32 | purple_cow | so even if you're not conciously thinking about them, they're in your head |
| 07:12.06 | gonkulator | ok |
| 07:12.27 | purple_cow | if something unnerving happens, you take notice of it, whereas if you were studying accounting (or whatever), you'd either be completely oblivious to it or just shrug it off |
| 07:13.15 | kergoth | ChipX86: http://kergoth.com/images/wow_sshot15.jpg - note the box in the bottom center of the screen |
| 07:13.15 | gonkulator | ah, when something unnerving happens, I *do* shrug it off |
| 07:13.26 | gonkulator | a demonic encounter goes much deeper than that |
| 07:14.32 | purple_cow | do tell :P |
| 07:14.55 | ChipX86 | kergoth: nice |
| 07:14.59 | gonkulator | ok, in my pursuit of the priesthood, there is a joy |
| 07:15.17 | kergoth | ChipX86: i minimized the game while i saved the image in the right format and scp'd. when i pulled it up, i was in dolanaar :D |
| 07:15.25 | ChipX86 | kergoth: awesome |
| 07:16.30 | ChipX86 | http://www.petitiononline.com/UCAWWW/petition.html <-- demonic |
| 07:17.56 | sbahra | heh |
| 07:17.59 | gonkulator | so, with a peace and joy that goes that deep, minor stuff like getting bumped and being frustrated, or whaterver is left as it is |
| 07:18.05 | sbahra | Eating seeds as a paste-time activity = Saudi Arabia |
| 07:18.08 | sbahra | gonkulator, :D |
| 07:18.11 | sbahra | gonkulator, How's life? |
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| 07:18.23 | gonkulator | awww |
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| 07:18.29 | ChipX86 | now look what everybody did! |
| 07:18.34 | gonkulator | wb spooklight |
| 07:18.48 | spooklight | no that was an accident |
| 07:19.04 | gonkulator | anyway, purple_cow, with a peace that runs that deep, its "easy" to tell when something upsets that |
| 07:19.09 | gonkulator | ah, ok, good |
| 07:19.19 | gonkulator | sbahra: pretty good, I am preparing for a 30 day silent retreat |
| 07:19.19 | sbahra | Ignore me then. |
| 07:19.26 | sbahra | gonkulator, ah. |
| 07:19.30 | sbahra | gonkulator, good luck. :) |
| 07:19.32 | gonkulator | sbahra: you're in the queue, don't worry :) |
| 07:19.38 | sbahra | Don't expect much though ;) |
| 07:22.11 | kergoth | ChipX86: http://kergoth.com/images/wow_sshot16.jpg - no more seperate autotravel display. using the autotravel plugin for the toolbar, and note that its showing the ETA now :) |
| 07:22.24 | ChipX86 | nice |
| 07:22.29 | ChipX86 | must use that later |
| 07:23.11 | kergoth | ChipX86: if you die while following a path, like you go to take a leak and die, there's an autotravelcorpse addon to get to your body. hehe. |
| 07:23.20 | ChipX86 | kergoth: nice! |
| 07:23.53 | purple_cow | gonkulator: is that the entire argument? |
| 07:24.22 | gonkulator | no, thats an explanation of how it works |
| 07:25.39 | sbahra | Well, idling != contributing :) |
| 07:25.42 | sbahra | Meditation = idling |
| 07:26.26 | gonkulator | heh |
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| 07:27.51 | gonkulator | anyway, you're right in saying that I can't convince you of anyting |
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| 07:28.06 | gonkulator | wb spooklight |
| 07:28.08 | purple_cow | that seems pretty specious to me |
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| 07:28.19 | ChipX86 | she's half asleep and pressed the wrong thing :) |
| 07:28.24 | purple_cow | i don't know anyone who is deeply affected by getting bumped into or getting frustrated |
| 07:28.42 | gonkulator | ok, so give me an example of something that is deeper |
| 07:28.44 | purple_cow | but at the same time, i don't know anyone who doesn't have deeply-affecting things happen to them |
| 07:29.52 | purple_cow | a rash of cancer scared within my extended family? my dad having a string of very serious bicycle accidents? there are lots of others |
| 07:30.05 | purple_cow | s/scared/scares/ |
| 07:30.34 | gonkulator | ah, I see what you're saying now |
| 07:31.00 | gonkulator | in those examples, the unsettling thing comes from the outside |
| 07:31.19 | gonkulator | in my experience, Satan unsettles from within |
| 07:31.34 | gonkulator | so the reaction is out of proportion to the stimulis |
| 07:31.45 | purple_cow | i don't believe for a second that it's possible to live without experiencing a wide range of emotion |
| 07:31.55 | purple_cow | even when it doesn't appear to be caused by any specific events |
| 07:32.04 | purple_cow | i |
| 07:33.11 | gonkulator | alright |
| 07:34.25 | gonkulator | and I have traced events -> emotions and most of the time they line up pretty darn well |
| 07:34.48 | gonkulator | in fact, almost all of the time |
| 07:35.02 | purple_cow | humans aren't deterministic :P |
| 07:35.27 | gonkulator | but we're not random either |
| 07:35.32 | gonkulator | its not an exact science |
| 07:35.50 | gonkulator | it takes a human intellect to understand human emotions |
| 07:36.18 | purple_cow | certainly not, but i've had plenty of experiences when i felt sad or pissed off or happy for no particular reason |
| 07:36.46 | ChipX86 | I had that today |
| 07:37.11 | purple_cow | to me, that's not an indication that there's some external force, it's just the way things are |
| 07:37.16 | purple_cow | and i wouldn't have it any other way ;-) |
| 07:37.25 | gonkulator | and this past year, I haven't had major emotions that I haven't found the cause of |
| 07:37.40 | ChipX86 | I should probably leave before I manage to get into this and give my opinion |
| 07:37.48 | purple_cow | hehe |
| 07:37.50 | gonkulator | heh |
| 07:37.58 | purple_cow | ChipX86: speak up :) |
| 07:38.04 | ChipX86 | nope |
| 07:38.06 | ChipX86 | nobody wants to hear it. |
| 07:38.20 | ChipX86 | it'll do no good for this discussion |
| 07:38.28 | gonkulator | at least, nobody is wrong in their experience |
| 07:39.03 | gonkulator | conclusions drawn from that experience might be incomplete |
| 07:39.30 | ChipX86 | and now to watch a show about lesbians |
| 07:39.32 | ChipX86 | (non-pornographic) |
| 07:39.51 | kergoth | ChipX86: more niftiness: http://kergoth.com/images/wow_sshot17.jpg (using the Inventory Hawk on the bar to track items, and an autotravel map open showing the path being followed) |
| 07:39.54 | purple_cow | gonkulator: it just seems to me that even for someone in your line of work, attributing an experience or emotion to a "demonic encounter" is awfully extreme |
| 07:40.01 | ChipX86 | kergoth: wow! |
| 07:40.05 | ChipX86 | you're making me want to play |
| 07:40.09 | kergoth | :) |
| 07:41.54 | gonkulator | purple_cow: maybe, and I am sure that things have been mislabled in the past, but that hasn't been because the category didn't exist, its been because the category was mis-applied |
| 07:41.54 | purple_cow | hmm |
| 07:43.44 | purple_cow | gonkulator: *shrug* |
| 07:44.04 | purple_cow | i have to believe that even if it does exist, it's something that has to be unbelievably rare |
| 07:44.47 | purple_cow | because there would be some real investigation into it if things were happening all the time |
| 07:45.13 | gonkulator | see, you're assuming that this force of evil isn't as smart as you, and thats a bad assumption |
| 07:45.40 | gonkulator | because you understand the predictibility of things, you assume that you're the highest being that can make predictions |
| 07:45.45 | gonkulator | and thats not how demons are at all |
| 07:46.05 | gonkulator | and what I am about to say is going to make it so that I am dismissed entirely |
| 07:46.59 | gonkulator | so I won't say it... |
| 07:47.11 | purple_cow | well, i've observed that many people who consider themselves very religious have a proclivity to assign blame elsewhere |
| 07:47.20 | purple_cow | whether the "blame" is for something good or bad |
| 07:47.43 | gonkulator | right, thats a danger |
| 07:48.30 | gonkulator | over-spiritualization is a challenge faced by a lot of people once they acknowledge the spiritual world's existance |
| 07:48.45 | purple_cow | and what some people might call a blessing or curse i just call life |
| 07:49.22 | gonkulator | to which I would challenge your understanding of what life is |
| 07:49.48 | purple_cow | life is a gamut of emotion and experience |
| 07:49.57 | purple_cow | which is what makes it interesting and fun ;-) |
| 07:50.12 | gonkulator | and where does life come from? |
| 07:51.26 | ChipX86 | I love this show. There's just something about it |
| 07:51.29 | gonkulator | heh |
| 07:51.46 | gonkulator | s/want's/wants/ |
| 07:52.08 | purple_cow | ok |
| 07:53.01 | purple_cow | i believe in causality, and thinking about the origin of life, the universe, and everything is fun, but is a question that will *never* be answered |
| 07:53.19 | purple_cow | hehe |
| 07:53.37 | gonkulator | ChipX86: /msg me with it, I won't respond except to say 'lol' or something :) |
| 07:53.44 | ChipX86 | 42 |
| 07:55.45 | gonkulator | and why will it never be answered? |
| 07:56.08 | purple_cow | accepting that things just "are" isn't a problem for my mind (and is, for me, a much better way than endless arguments about god vs pre-big-bang "dark" vs crackpot theory of the week) |
| 07:57.28 | purple_cow | gonkulator: well, with big-bang theory, there's absolutely no way to determine what came before that instant of explosion |
| 07:58.06 | purple_cow | and i think everyone would agree that there's no scientifically verifiable way to prove the existance of a deity or creator |
| 07:58.27 | gonkulator | and I would say that is a problem with the scientific mode of thought |
| 07:58.36 | purple_cow | not at all |
| 07:58.55 | gonkulator | just because I can't scientifically describe my desire for the priesthood doesn't mean it doesn't exist |
| 07:59.10 | gonkulator | it means I can't scientifically describe it |
| 07:59.28 | purple_cow | i'm not talking about scientific description, i'm talking about scientific verification |
| 08:00.16 | purple_cow | which is something like proving gravity by dropping things and measuring planets |
| 08:00.22 | gonkulator | so how would one scientifically verify my desire for the priesthood? |
| 08:01.01 | purple_cow | well, something like that isn't really absolutely testable, but one can infer things from your behavior and ask you |
| 08:01.07 | purple_cow | but i can pretty easily verify your *existance* |
| 08:01.41 | gonkulator | what if I existed before you and after you and sustained you without you noticing? |
| 08:02.03 | purple_cow | well, that's why i'm saying it can't be verified |
| 08:02.10 | gonkulator | its only because you can see me change that you can verify me |
| 08:02.20 | purple_cow | there are plenty of questions which cannot be determined via scientific methods |
| 08:02.43 | gonkulator | so why are you applying scientific methods to God when you know they won't conclusively work? |
| 08:02.53 | purple_cow | i'm saying they can't be applied |
| 08:03.09 | purple_cow | which is why i said that it's not a question which can be answered "absolutely" |
| 08:04.10 | gonkulator | if scientific methods don't work conclusively, how can you say conclusively that a conclusive conclusion can't be reached? |
| 08:04.57 | purple_cow | well, consider this |
| 08:05.27 | purple_cow | if the scientists had a way to absolutely prove what happened to create the universe, the debate would be settled |
| 08:05.54 | purple_cow | if the religions had a way to absolutely prove what happened to create the universe, the debate would be settled |
| 08:06.25 | purple_cow | neither does |
| 08:06.39 | purple_cow | therefore, i say it's a question which won't be answered to anybody's satisfaction |
| 08:06.50 | purple_cow | and as such, i have better questions to spend my time thinking about |
| 08:07.06 | gonkulator | yeah, its tiring to spend time thinking about this |
| 08:07.49 | purple_cow | the thing is that if you start introducing emotion and faith into scientific discussion of the creation of everything, the scientists shout "that's rubbish!" and leave to go do better things |
| 08:08.52 | gonkulator | nod, which is why we agreed that its not a scientific question |
| 08:08.58 | gonkulator | at least, I think we agreed |
| 08:09.58 | gonkulator | IMHO, it comes down to a decision. If one decides to take a leap of faith and believe in God, and all His works, everything makes an incredible amount of sense |
| 08:10.18 | gonkulator | if one chooses to not take that leap of faith, well, we're free to make that decision as well |
| 08:10.25 | purple_cow | sure |
| 08:10.30 | gonkulator | and things don't line up with the same elegance |
| 08:10.37 | gonkulator | and thats how things are |
| 08:10.43 | purple_cow | sure they do |
| 08:11.26 | gonkulator | ok, show me the beauty |
| 08:11.45 | gonkulator | in an athiestic world that is |
| 08:11.46 | purple_cow | i see unbelievable elegance in the complexity of life and the workings of the universe |
| 08:12.06 | gonkulator | indeed, I see a great deal of beauty in creation as well |
| 08:12.21 | gonkulator | but where does beauty itself come from |
| 08:12.31 | purple_cow | does beauty need to come from somewhere? |
| 08:12.33 | gonkulator | thats a question that can only be answered with faith |
| 08:12.47 | gonkulator | do things just pop into existence? |
| 08:12.50 | purple_cow | to me, being an atheist makes everything more beautiful - these things just happened, there was no guiding force |
| 08:13.18 | purple_cow | things might have popped into existance right at the moment of the big bang, but that's not a question we can answer ;-) |
| 08:13.42 | gonkulator | heh |
| 08:14.55 | purple_cow | time to pull out my einstein quotation :) |
| 08:15.03 | gonkulator | alright alright |
| 08:15.19 | purple_cow | ``There are two ways to live your life - one is as though nothing is a miracle, the other is as though everything is a miracle.'' |
| 08:15.39 | purple_cow | and that works no matter what your belief |
| 08:16.33 | purple_cow | i dunno |
| 08:16.39 | purple_cow | i'm fascinated by things |
| 08:17.11 | gonkulator | because it seems to me that Beauty wouldn't exist without some sort of guiding force |
| 08:17.42 | purple_cow | the fact that i can find things like http://navi.cx/images/art/tn/fractal-cabbage.jpg.html is just unbelievably exciting to me |
| 08:17.57 | kergoth | if we werent created by a guiding force, and neither was anything else in our existance, why shouldnt we ourselves have been envolved with an appreciation of beauty that includes everything else that's as accidental as we are? |
| 08:17.58 | ChipX86 | wow, we're still talking about this? |
| 08:18.07 | purple_cow | ChipX86: apparently |
| 08:19.58 | ChipX86 | hmm, why aren't my galago-wiki commits going through |
| 08:20.06 | gonkulator | kergoth: I would say that the level or organization required for our existance would indicate a necessity of fundamental principles that would indicate a greater order |
| 08:20.59 | kergoth | your belief that we're a creation of a guiding force reinforces your belief that beauty was created by a guidance force. if one has a belief in neither, then beauty can be purely subjective, and it doesnt require a higher order at all. |
| 08:21.07 | kergoth | s/guidance/guiding/ |
| 08:21.26 | kergoth | gonkulator: thats a seperate argument entirely. my comment was about beauty only |
| 08:21.32 | gonkulator | ah, ok |
| 08:21.35 | purple_cow | gonkulator: i don't see any reason why complexity indicates some higher power |
| 08:21.40 | purple_cow | especially after taking chaotic dynamics :) |
| 08:21.52 | gonkulator | higher power by way of higher organization |
| 08:22.14 | gonkulator | and in my mind, Truth and Beauty have become a single entity |
| 08:22.27 | gonkulator | so I lack the capacity to seperate them at this point |
| 08:22.43 | gonkulator | (Good also fits into that unity) |
| 08:23.43 | purple_cow | i can accept that you see religion in everything, and i see religion in nothing |
| 08:23.49 | kergoth | anyway, this discussion is going nowhere, neither of you are convincing the other of anything. i just had to throw that out there to oppose your assertion that beauty wouldnt exist without a higher force. |
| 08:24.07 | purple_cow | kergoth: thanks :) |
| 08:24.37 | gonkulator | but the point isn't to convince! |
| 08:24.40 | ChipX86 | uh oh. |
| 08:24.48 | ChipX86 | I apologize in advance. |
| 08:24.59 | kergoth | ChipX86: haha |
| 08:25.48 | ChipX86 | oh, thought the mail server was just down and that you were going to get spammed with wiki commit messages |
| 08:25.52 | ChipX86 | but that wasn't the problem it seems |
| 08:25.54 | purple_cow | hehe |
| 08:25.54 | kergoth | ah |
| 08:25.55 | kergoth | hehe |
| 08:26.13 | kergoth | i figured you were typing a long diatribe relating to this discussion. i'm glad i was wrong |
| 08:26.17 | kergoth | :) |
| 08:26.52 | purple_cow | i'm SO jazzed that i'll probably be winning calendar publishing |
| 08:26.57 | ChipX86 | :D |
| 08:26.59 | purple_cow | that's a lot of money :D |
| 08:29.20 | purple_cow | hmm |
| 08:31.04 | purple_cow | hehe, i love google |
| 08:31.05 | purple_cow | http://maps.google.com/maps?q=coffee+near+2133+canyon+blvd,+boulder+colorado&hl=en |
| 08:34.57 | purple_cow | gonkulator: me too, but different hair ;) |
| 08:35.09 | purple_cow | having a bald face again feels and looks bizzare |
| 08:35.44 | gonkulator | heh, I am trying to have a not-bald face |
| 08:41.15 | gonkulator | and on that note, I think I have finished the stuff I needed to |
| 08:41.47 | gonkulator | g'night everyone |
| 08:43.26 | purple_cow | caught a lite sneeze, dreamed a little dream... |
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| 09:24.22 | CIA-3 | galago-wiki: 03ChipX86 * 10wiki/Sandbox:Main: Yeah, not getting CIA working tonight. Bed. |
| 09:24.27 | ChipX86 | damnit |
| 09:32.41 | purple_cow | hehe |
| 09:32.55 | purple_cow | yay irony! |
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| 11:34.57 | CIA-3 | autopackage: 03mike * 10autopackage/apbuild/ (ChangeLog relaytool): libdl won't ever be supported by relaytool, so skip it. |
| 11:36.06 | CIA-3 | autopackage: 03mike * 10autopackage/apbuild/ (ChangeLog relaytool): Add a --version option, reorganize a bit the rest of --help. |
| 11:38.30 | CIA-3 | autopackage: 03mike * 10autopackage/apbuild/ (ChangeLog README relaytool): Allow generating a stub file for every library passed in args. |
| 11:40.45 | CIA-3 | autopackage: 03mike * 10autopackage/apbuild/ (ChangeLog relaytool): Skip generating a stub for libraries for which no functions are called or no variables used. |
| 11:43.24 | CIA-3 | autopackage: 03mike * 10autopackage/apbuild/ (ChangeLog relaytool): Use proper quoting |
| 11:44.24 | CIA-3 | autopackage: 03mike * 10autopackage/apbuild/ (ChangeLog relaytool): Support old nm versions |
| 11:45.52 | CIA-3 | autopackage: 03mike * 10autopackage/main/AUTHORS: Add Vincent to the AUTHORS list |
| 11:47.23 | CIA-3 | autopackage: 03mike * 10autopackage/apbuild/ChangeLog: Fix the accent in Vincents name |
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| 16:19.46 | darth_mall | uhoh... slimspace|away ran away |
| 16:40.53 | orchid | hi darth_mall ca va? |
| 16:41.10 | darth_mall | ca va bien, et tu? |
| 16:41.36 | orchid | good thanks :) |
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| 17:15.11 | CIA-3 | g2bridge: 03evan * r104 10/src/opto.cpp: Don't need the parser in here anymore. |
| 17:18.44 | CIA-3 | g2bridge: 03evan * r105 10/src/ (exceptions.cpp exceptions.h): Might as well move everything here into the .h file. |
| 17:18.55 | CIA-3 | g2bridge: 03evan * r106 10/src/exceptions.cpp: Don't need this anymore |
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| 17:30.18 | darth_darth | I wonder if I made some sysadmin mad here |
| 17:41.06 | CIA-3 | g2bridge: 03evan * r107 10/src/ (errlog.cpp errlog.h main.cpp): |
| 17:41.06 | CIA-3 | g2bridge: Trying to find a way to get rid of the need for these crazy global vars. |
| 17:41.06 | CIA-3 | g2bridge: For now we'll at least make them static. |
| 17:41.21 | darth_darth | looks like I'm not the only one who's proxy went crazy |
| 17:41.44 | darth_darth | ah... looks like navi problems |
| 17:41.46 | darth_darth | fun |
| 17:53.12 | CIA-3 | g2bridge: 03evan * r108 10/src/ (exceptions.h gsi_callbacks.cpp main.cpp): Managed to move the option parser out of the global scope. |
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| 18:18.13 | darth_darth | morning ChipX86 |
| 18:18.25 | ChipX86 | morning |
| 18:18.29 | ChipX86 | so late for wor |
| 18:18.29 | ChipX86 | k |
| 18:19.46 | darth_darth | =\ |
| 18:20.07 | ChipX86 | and so hungry for work too! |
| 18:21.10 | ChipX86|Gone | worky |
| 18:21.58 | numist | later |
| 18:32.17 | kergoth | fucking son of a bitch |
| 18:39.45 | numist | hey now, I didnt do anything wrong |
| 18:44.02 | darth_darth | goddamn C++ |
| 18:46.54 | CIA-3 | g2bridge: 03evan * r109 10/tests/ (Makefile.am test_opto.cpp test_scheduler.cpp): Setting up with unitpp for testing. |
| 18:47.12 | CIA-3 | g2bridge: 03evan * r110 10/src/ (exceptions.h main.cpp): Stupid friggin' C++ not being C#... grumble grumble... |
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| 18:58.19 | kergoth | so, i got a call from the moving company on friday right |
| 18:58.29 | kergoth | didnt check my voicemail until saturday morning, called, left a voice mail |
| 18:58.39 | kergoth | apparently that was the driver, he called when he was _in town_, and now he isnt in dallas anymore. |
| 18:58.51 | kergoth | and the next run isnt guaranteed to be before the 30th, when my lease is up |
| 18:59.08 | kergoth | they do have storage services though, maybe i'll have them store my shit until they can move it |
| 18:59.13 | kergoth | heh |
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| 19:13.14 | CIA-3 | spacegrant: 03maccarro * r1309 10mck/ (12 files in 6 dirs): OK, so now the flight software is updated for Twisted 2.0.0...which means that everything underneath it most likely is broken now. |
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| 19:17.09 | purple_cow | BLAH |
| 19:17.30 | purple_cow | it's not dircproxy that was the problem =P |
| 19:17.34 | slimspace | no? |
| 19:18.30 | purple_cow | navi's power supply died |
| 19:18.37 | slimspace | ouch |
| 19:20.23 | numist | ouch |
| 19:20.25 | numist | poor navi |
| 19:22.06 | ChipX86 | Next on Fox: When Bus Drivers Space Out 5 |
| 19:22.12 | ChipX86 | I hate mondays. |
| 19:22.43 | numist | I never could get the hang of mondays |
| 19:23.23 | ChipX86 | I pressed the little "Let me off!" cable and he just went right by the place. And the next. So I told him he missed my stop 2 stops ago. He didn't even respond, missed the next stop, and eventually pulled off to the side 15 minutes (walking distance) from where I was supposed to get off |
| 19:24.46 | numist | nice |
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| 19:35.54 | ChipX86 | yay for being the guy that sets up the new linux boxes around here :) |
| 19:37.53 | darth_mall | man I hate C++ |
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| 19:46.43 | purple_cow | sbahra[]: what's this? |
| 19:46.51 | sbahra[] | purple_cow: Evolution. |
| 19:46.58 | ChipX86 | yay Evolution |
| 19:47.13 | purple_cow | Samy: i'm in the other list too ;) |
| 19:47.16 | ChipX86 | must work on the galago plugin at some point |
| 19:47.31 | Samy | purple_cow: :D |
| 19:47.33 | purple_cow | and so is ChipX86 |
| 19:47.37 | ChipX86 | yep |
| 19:47.38 | Samy | Yeah. |
| 19:47.43 | ChipX86 | the Big Bounty :D |
| 19:47.46 | Samy | ChipX86 is splattered all across GNOME though :) |
| 19:47.50 | ChipX86 | I am? |
| 19:47.53 | Samy | ChipX86: ah, remember that. |
| 19:48.36 | ChipX86 | purple_cow: are you able to modify CIA rulesets? |
| 19:48.48 | CIA-3 | g2bridge: 03evan * r111 10/src/ (11 files): Namespace |
| 19:49.20 | purple_cow | yeah... |
| 19:49.33 | purple_cow | at least, usually |
| 19:49.35 | ChipX86 | any chance you can put galago-wiki commits in #galago? |
| 19:51.48 | CIA-3 | g2bridge: 03evan * r112 10/src/ (errlog.h exceptions.h): Missing prototype. Forgot iostream |
| 19:51.54 | purple_cow | ChipX86: try now? |
| 19:52.20 | CIA-3 | g2bridge: 03evan * r113 10/src/Makefile.am: remove exceptions.cpp |
| 19:52.42 | CIA-3 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r8313 10cia/tools/ruleset_editor.py: fix deprecation warnings |
| 19:53.03 | ChipX86 | hrm. No, but then, I think that's the fault of this proxy server |
| 19:53.06 | ChipX86 | it's not handling redirects right |
| 19:53.40 | ChipX86 | god damnit. Broke the build. I hate Monday. |
| 19:54.37 | numist | I think destroy mornings should be updated to destroy mondays |
| 19:55.08 | darth_mall | well... but mornings suck no matter what day of the week it is |
| 19:55.24 | ChipX86 | yep |
| 19:55.26 | ChipX86 | mornings are evil |
| 19:55.31 | ChipX86 | mondays doubly so |
| 19:55.45 | ChipX86 | cool, James is taking care of the fix. Stupid picky compilers |
| 19:55.50 | ChipX86 | and inconsistency in g++ |
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| 19:55.56 | numist | yay james |
| 19:56.16 | kergoth | ChipX86: i'm going to figure out what files store the autotravel data, and send it to you. this morning i've been plotting out routes for IF, SW, elwynn forest, dun morogh, loch modan, .. :) |
| 19:56.22 | ChipX86 | nice :D |
| 19:57.15 | kergoth | ChipX86: and i'm level 13 already. doing quests from the human area, the dwarf area, _and_ the night elf area levels you like mad. tonight you should come out to this continent with me |
| 19:57.31 | Samy | JEEZ |
| 19:57.35 | Samy | elf = beep :) |
| 19:57.40 | Samy | kergoth: What is this game exactly? :) |
| 19:57.45 | kergoth | world of warcraft |
| 19:59.35 | Samy | Oh, I see. |
| 19:59.39 | Samy | mmmmmm |
| 19:59.42 | Samy | I'll give it a shot soon |
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| 20:00.21 | numist | omfg no |
| 20:02.07 | numist | vsifdokfcx |
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| 20:15.56 | darth_mall | I've gotten an e-mail everyday at weird times telling me I haven't filled out my timesheet that's due today |
| 20:18.18 | numist | weird |
| 20:20.29 | wca | heh |
| 20:20.48 | wca | mountain sun pub is ok, makes a nice spicy chicken burrito :) |
| 20:21.01 | CIA-3 | g2bridge: 03evan * r114 10/tests/ (test_errlog.cpp test_opto.cpp): test_opto is now working with unitpp |
| 20:21.16 | darth_mall | wca: they have excellent beer there |
| 20:21.22 | darth_mall | one of the better places in boulder, IMO |
| 20:21.32 | wca | yeah, i had the mountain sun light ale |
| 20:23.42 | CIA-3 | spacegrant: 03maccarro * r1312 10doc/ (6 files in 2 dirs): Added two new guides, the developer's guide and the user's guide. I've also got an outline started for the user's guide. |
| 20:23.56 | wca | it was a bit toasty for my taste |
| 20:26.46 | darth_mall | stupid friggin' c++ |
| 20:27.50 | sbahra[] | darth_mall: :( |
| 20:27.51 | sbahra[] | darth_mall: ? |
| 20:29.04 | wca | c++ does suck |
| 20:30.21 | sbahra[] | Yes. |
| 20:30.26 | sbahra[] | It sucks...a lot. |
| 20:30.37 | wca | you lose your connection a lot too samy :p |
| 20:30.38 | sbahra[] | Just curious if darth_mall needed something. |
| 20:30.45 | sbahra[] | wca: haha |
| 20:30.53 | wca | why is that? |
| 20:31.01 | Samy | wca: Don't ask me. |
| 20:31.04 | Samy | Mon May 16 23:31:07 AST 2005 |
| 20:31.15 | Samy | Not staying here for too long, so I also don't happen to care so much :) |
| 20:31.33 | wca | Mon May 16 13:31:29 MDT 2005 |
| 20:31.47 | Samy | Mon May 16 23:31:50 AST 2005 |
| 20:31.53 | Samy | :) |
| 20:31.56 | wca | boo |
| 20:31.56 | Samy | Lucky you, 13:31 |
| 20:32.04 | Samy | but your Monday = sucks |
| 20:32.07 | wca | yeah, actually, that's wrong :PP |
| 20:32.14 | Samy | haha |
| 20:32.27 | wca | hm |
| 20:33.37 | Samy | I'm off to drink large amounts of water and procrastinate. |
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| 20:33.46 | Samy | pciconf can rot some more in the mean time :) |
| 20:33.53 | numist | Im off to drink large amounts |
| 20:34.18 | Samy | Lucky you. |
| 20:35.00 | CIA-3 | g2bridge: 03evan * r115 10/src/ (8 files): ws mostly |
| 20:35.27 | file | oh yeah! |
| 20:35.45 | numist | Samy: well... its only because this compile at work doesnt work, and theres beer in the fridge (at work) that need to be disposed of. Problem. Solution. |
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| 20:41.57 | purple_cow | sweet! |
| 20:42.20 | purple_cow | i responded to rodrigo's mail, saying i'd work on the publishing stuff, but my time is limited because of work, and got this from nat: |
| 20:42.28 | purple_cow | What are your summer jobs, out of curiosity? Any time for a Novell internship? |
| 20:42.45 | numist | nice |
| 20:43.35 | file | yay purple_cow! |
| 20:43.35 | numist | how did you get to be in such high demand? |
| 20:46.20 | darth_mall | how the hell is this damned thing getting defined multiple times |
| 20:46.25 | purple_cow | numist: dunno :) |
| 20:46.33 | numist | purple_cow: damn you :) |
| 20:47.02 | CIA-3 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r8316 10motion/shuffle-interpolation/amc_graph/amc_graph.h: clean up this one. damn CS department, teaching students that comments like "// constructor" are useful |
| 20:50.19 | darth_mall | purple_cow: that's pretty cool |
| 20:51.37 | purple_cow | yep |
| 20:51.50 | numist | nope |
| 20:56.18 | Samy | hehhhhh |
| 20:56.18 | Samy | ekh |
| 20:56.22 | Samy | I think I drank too much water :) |
| 20:56.24 | Samy | Big headache |
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| 21:06.33 | darth_mall | putting function implementations and the like in a header file doesn't automagically make them inlines, does it? |
| 21:07.10 | kergoth | no, but if you put them that way and include it in multiple files, you'll end up with a multiple definition, since that function would actually be in both. |
| 21:07.16 | kergoth | if thats your intent.. |
| 21:08.06 | purple_cow | darth_mall: not unless they're marked inline |
| 21:08.55 | darth_mall | that's what I thought |
| 21:09.29 | darth_mall | kergoth: even if they've got #ifndef BLAH stuff around them to prevent redefinition? |
| 21:09.46 | kergoth | hm? |
| 21:09.56 | kergoth | the ifndef would prevent multiple inclusion of hte header by a single file |
| 21:10.02 | kergoth | if you had 2 .c files including it, they'd both get it defined. |
| 21:10.07 | kergoth | and itd be in both of their objects |
| 21:10.11 | kergoth | and the link would fail |
| 21:10.13 | darth_mall | ok |
| 21:10.17 | file | normally. |
| 21:10.48 | CIA-3 | spacegrant: 03dowty * r1313 10doc-misc/ (4 files in 2 dirs): Adding a PDF version of the determing-spin document, and putting it in its own directory |
| 21:11.06 | kergoth | darth_mall: defining something in one file does not make it visable in another. |
| 21:12.37 | CIA-3 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r8317 10motion/shuffle-interpolation/amc_graph/amc_graph.cxx: see kids, version control lets you delete all that old debug code, rather than commenting it out |
| 21:12.59 | CIA-3 | spacegrant: 03dowty * r1314 10doc-misc/determining-spin/determining_spin.pdf: Whoops, forgot to run this twice to update the table of contents |
| 21:26.11 | darth_mall | where the fuck is this multiple definition coming from!? |
| 21:26.12 | darth_mall | arg |
| 21:29.56 | CIA-3 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r8318 10motion/shuffle-interpolation/ (amc_graph/amc_graph.cxx graph_node/graph_node.h): clean up a lot more, add angle ranges to each node to indicate the data slice |
| 21:33.58 | CIA-3 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r8319 10motion/shuffle-interpolation/ (amc_graph/amc_graph.cxx graph_edge/graph_edge.h): clean up graph_edge, add the number of transitions to edges in the dot output |
| 21:35.18 | ChipX86 | well.. that was bizarre |
| 21:35.27 | ChipX86 | we have this new intern and I was setting up his box |
| 21:35.48 | ChipX86 | the LCD monitor was all ghosty and blurry though, so we tried replacing stuff. We ended up replacing every component, computer included |
| 21:36.02 | CIA-3 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r8320 10motion/shuffle-interpolation/amc_graph/ (amc_graph.cxx amc_graph.h): ws and spelling |
| 21:36.04 | ChipX86 | I brought my monitor and my laptop in. The picture looked like crap. I brought them back to my office. Crystal clear. |
| 21:37.55 | purple_cow | guh |
| 21:37.57 | purple_cow | void dumpall(); // dump all method |
| 21:37.57 | purple_cow | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:38.23 | ChipX86 | heh |
| 21:39.05 | purple_cow | this entire codebase is like that |
| 21:39.11 | purple_cow | several thousand lines of garbage =P |
| 21:41.07 | ChipX86 | hmm, those Zelda buttons I was bidding on is now $10.50 |
| 21:42.03 | CIA-3 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r8321 10motion/shuffle-interpolation/amc/amc.h: well this is still gross, but at least it's not disgusting |
| 21:45.20 | darth_mall | ChipX86: zelda buttons? |
| 21:45.30 | ChipX86 | http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7514873373&ssPageName=ADME:B:ON:US:4 |
| 21:46.17 | darth_mall | sweet |
| 21:46.24 | ChipX86 | yep |
| 21:46.29 | ChipX86 | they're awesome |
| 21:46.37 | ChipX86 | but do I want to pay more than $10.50 for them? |
| 21:47.26 | CIA-3 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r8322 10motion/shuffle-interpolation/amc/amc.cxx: good god, this assumes the order of bones within the amc file. this will need to be completely rewritten =/ |
| 21:48.55 | darth_mall | welp, I'm confused |
| 21:49.09 | darth_mall | I don't get how this thing is being multiply defined |
| 21:49.16 | ChipX86 | included more than once? |
| 21:49.20 | ChipX86 | or, wait, C#? |
| 21:49.34 | file | yay work conference |
| 21:50.02 | darth_mall | ChipX86: C++ |
| 21:50.10 | ChipX86 | ah. |
| 21:50.13 | ChipX86 | got it up somewherE? |
| 21:50.22 | darth_mall | I can |
| 21:51.57 | CIA-3 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r8323 10motion/shuffle-interpolation/ (amc/amc.cxx amc_graph/amc_graph.cxx): hrmph, i think this graph building might be fundamentally broken |
| 21:52.22 | darth_mall | is there anything weird about instantiating a class as a static variable? |
| 21:52.40 | ChipX86 | as long as it's not done in a .hh, should be fine |
| 21:53.02 | ChipX86 | I must make notes to myself more often. I keep forgetting what I'm going to do |
| 21:53.11 | wca | me too :( |
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| 21:53.40 | wca | like, i'm still in boulder and i don't know why |
| 21:53.41 | ChipX86 | I should have made a stop to the M&M drawer in the kitchen while I was in there |
| 21:54.01 | darth_mall | I want to store a static instance of this ErrLog class as a member of this Exception class, and it keeps telling me that the member functions for ErrLog are undefined |
| 21:54.33 | ChipX86 | is there a circular include? |
| 21:55.15 | darth_mall | shouldn't be |
| 21:55.45 | darth_mall | exceptions.h (which contains the Exception class) is included by multiple files, but there isn't a circular include |
| 21:55.49 | darth_mall | as far as I can se |
| 21:55.51 | darth_mall | erm... see |
| 21:57.34 | darth_mall | whoa |
| 21:57.42 | darth_mall | why the hell was opto.h included in my exceptions header... |
| 22:03.15 | wca | heh |
| 22:03.20 | wca | it's nice sometimes |
| 22:04.52 | ChipX86 | mmm, just a couple more days until all the fun starts |
| 22:07.31 | darth_mall | fun? |
| 22:07.34 | darth_mall | Disneyland? |
| 22:07.52 | darth_mall | or was that a sarcastic kind of "fun" |
| 22:08.03 | ChipX86 | Thursday, VMware's taking us to Star Wars |
| 22:08.10 | ChipX86 | Friday, they're taking us to Santa Cruz Beach Boardwalk |
| 22:08.35 | file | when will you ever get to work?!? |
| 22:08.57 | ChipX86 | I do work! |
| 22:09.00 | ChipX86 | I've been working all day |
| 22:09.10 | file | a likely story |
| 22:09.12 | ChipX86 | have you *seen* Workstation 5? |
| 22:09.25 | darth_mall | hehe |
| 22:09.35 | darth_mall | dammit... this is definitely a problem that's being caused by making this static |
| 22:09.36 | file | ChipX86: yes, but you probably outsource the work elsewhere! |
| 22:11.04 | ChipX86 | nope |
| 22:17.03 | purple_cow | err, maybe not |
| 22:17.45 | darth_mall | god this is pissing me off |
| 22:18.13 | ChipX86 | I know how you feel.. going through something similar right now |
| 22:19.33 | darth_mall | guh |
| 22:19.39 | darth_mall | why can't this just work like C#? |
| 22:21.27 | wca | heh |
| 22:21.36 | wca | so uh, do you guys just get together and hack all day somewhere? |
| 22:21.48 | ChipX86 | what do you do with your spare time? |
| 22:22.16 | wca | hmmm... i usually hack alone |
| 22:22.30 | ChipX86 | what do you hack on? |
| 22:22.34 | TD | i spent my spare time banging gorgeous chicks |
| 22:22.39 | TD | and getting paid for it |
| 22:22.43 | darth_mall | TD: yeah, I dream about that too |
| 22:22.54 | wca | all sorts of things freebsd related |
| 22:23.00 | ChipX86 | TD: fun job |
| 22:23.11 | ChipX86 | speaking of gorgeous chicks, 2 more weeks until Jamie's here |
| 22:23.19 | darth_mall | hehe |
| 22:23.25 | wca | sigh |
| 22:23.35 | ChipX86 | stupid finals keeping her busy :( |
| 22:23.58 | TD | yeah, it is fun. but sometimes i feel my life lacks depth |
| 22:23.59 | ChipX86 | brrr, cold... hurray for a thermostat in my office |
| 22:24.05 | TD | i think ... why am I doing this? |
| 22:24.06 | wca | cold is good |
| 22:24.18 | TD | and then another gorgeous chick with good credit comes along and i stop thinking about pretty much everything :) |
| 22:24.26 | darth_mall | lol |
| 22:24.33 | wca | heh |
| 22:24.46 | ChipX86 | I tried that for a while but it just became boring. That's why I'm now a software engineer! |
| 22:24.49 | wca | might as well be a pig instead of a human |
| 22:25.02 | TD | ChipX86: i agree. that sounds like a fulfilling job |
| 22:25.09 | wca | same here |
| 22:25.12 | darth_mall | and carefree too |
| 22:25.19 | wca | i get too bored if i don't hack on something :( |
| 22:25.25 | ChipX86 | and I still get gorgeous chicks! |
| 22:25.27 | ChipX86 | so it all works out |
| 22:25.31 | TD | well. be realistic. |
| 22:25.37 | TD | you've got one. any more would be greedy after all :) |
| 22:25.40 | wca | heh |
| 22:25.40 | ChipX86 | ytue |
| 22:25.41 | ChipX86 | e |
| 22:25.42 | ChipX86 | er |
| 22:25.43 | ChipX86 | true |
| 22:25.45 | ChipX86 | though I have the harem |
| 22:25.49 | wca | don't make me jealous :( |
| 22:25.53 | TD | and i used to have one, until she decided that minor details like impending distance mattered |
| 22:25.55 | TD | oh well |
| 22:26.04 | ChipX86 | TD: :( |
| 22:26.05 | darth_mall | TD: heh |
| 22:26.08 | TD | ChipX86: yeah but i saw a pic of them and didn't fancy them. so that's ok :) |
| 22:26.10 | darth_mall | how much impending distance? |
| 22:26.11 | ChipX86 | heh |
| 22:26.18 | TD | north east of england <-> germany |
| 22:26.20 | wca | distance does matter |
| 22:26.24 | TD | so, to be fair, it was a legitimate concern :) |
| 22:26.30 | ChipX86 | one of these days, Jamie's going to realize she's far more attractive than me and then I'm in trouble ;) |
| 22:26.33 | TD | on the other hand, nobody said it had to last forever .... |
| 22:26.34 | wca | there's no way i would keep a relationship if i couldn't see her at least once a week ;] |
| 22:26.51 | TD | well this was back in december and she doesn't leave for germany until july |
| 22:27.00 | TD | so we would have had at least half a year |
| 22:27.08 | wca | get it on then |
| 22:27.09 | TD | which is longer than most teenage relationships last anyway. |
| 22:27.11 | darth_mall | ChipX86: no one is hotter than you |
| 22:27.15 | ChipX86 | darth_mall: many people are |
| 22:27.26 | darth_mall | nope |
| 22:27.29 | TD | ChipX86: oh, i wouldn't worry too much, it's so much more involved than just looks :( |
| 22:27.34 | wca | i keep assuming everyone here is 18+ :( |
| 22:27.38 | TD | wca: i'm 21 |
| 22:27.41 | ChipX86 | I'm 21 |
| 22:27.43 | wca | heh, ok |
| 22:27.48 | TD | i'm using "teenage" in the loosest interpretation of the word |
| 22:27.48 | kergoth | i think its been whole hours since i listened to the new soad album. time to listen to it again |
| 22:27.49 | file | old! |
| 22:27.51 | TD | seeing as that's about how mature i am |
| 22:28.04 | ChipX86 | TD: I'm not really worried |
| 22:28.19 | TD | excellence :) |
| 22:28.24 | ChipX86 | we're very good together :) |
| 22:28.24 | TD | i, meanwhile, am utterly screwed |
| 22:28.27 | ChipX86 | :( |
| 22:28.29 | kergoth | darth_mall: http://kergoth.com/images/wow_sshot17.jpg |
| 22:28.43 | ChipX86 | speaking of screwage, *kicks his new code* |
| 22:28.56 | TD | because having got over juliane (german girl), i spent 5 months having my life steamrollered by the train wreck of a university course i'm on |
| 22:29.07 | TD | and then met this lovely lady: http://navi.cx/~mike/manya.jpg |
| 22:29.22 | TD | except she lives down in london. not up in durham. |
| 22:29.38 | TD | so i fail basic geographic sanity testing, yet again :) |
| 22:29.40 | darth_mall | kergoth: hehe |
| 22:29.51 | wca | jeez |
| 22:29.55 | kergoth | darth_mall: that addon automatically walks you from location to location. |
| 22:29.58 | wca | where do you find these women? |
| 22:30.06 | kergoth | bored. |
| 22:30.14 | TD | wca: the wrong places, clearly |
| 22:30.16 | ChipX86 | wca: usually in places outside of a cubicle |
| 22:30.36 | darth_mall | geography is for chumps anyway |
| 22:30.43 | wca | ChipX86: well, duh |
| 22:30.53 | ChipX86 | although we have some inside cubicles |
| 22:31.09 | ChipX86 | actually, no, not really.. we're not allowed to be in cubicles here unless there's a massive space issue |
| 22:31.14 | wca | yeah but who would want a relationship with a coworker? |
| 22:31.27 | TD | i'm a student, and as such am surrounded by beautiful women |
| 22:31.47 | TD | so why the hell can't i meet one who is (a) not strange, (b) not living in another part of the country? |
| 22:31.49 | TD | beats me. |
| 22:31.56 | wca | define "strange" |
| 22:32.26 | TD | juliane was strange. she had a troubled history, and despite seeming sweet and demure on the surface was secretly convinced all men are bastards |
| 22:32.39 | TD | which is, to me, strange because i am clearly not a bastard |
| 22:33.16 | TD | ok, and (c) not boring |
| 22:33.30 | TD | most of the girls i know here (and i live with 3 dammit) are not strange or living in another part of the country. but they don't do anything for me either |
| 22:33.53 | wca | you live with 3 girls? |
| 22:33.59 | wca | how the fuck does that happen |
| 22:34.01 | TD | yes |
| 22:34.08 | TD | dunno. just did. it's not as good as it sounds, trust me |
| 22:34.14 | wca | i've never understood how men and women could live together without going nuts |
| 22:34.18 | wca | unless they were involved |
| 22:34.21 | ChipX86 | girls can be a pain to live with |
| 22:34.34 | TD | they *are* a pain to live with :) well, ok, that's not fair. they aren't that bad. |
| 22:34.46 | TD | a combination of them being not as bad as they could be, and me being quite tolerant, keeps things relatively smooth |
| 22:34.50 | ChipX86 | the only thing I've done was live with 6 girls for about a week at a time, while visiting, but even then your life has to adjust a bit :) |
| 22:35.06 | wca | yeah, such as, no more nude sleepwalking |
| 22:35.12 | TD | two of them are just great, one has a domestic superiority complex |
| 22:35.15 | wca | unless they like it |
| 22:35.20 | ChipX86 | wca: in the case of these girls, they would not mind if I did that |
| 22:35.25 | wca | haha |
| 22:35.27 | TD | and is always nit-picking stupid things. like did I wash a cup using washing up liquid or just water |
| 22:35.35 | wca | well you're probably hot chip |
| 22:35.39 | ChipX86 | I'm really not |
| 22:35.40 | TD | yes. ChipX86 is a stud muffin, of course they wouldn't mind |
| 22:35.44 | TD | ignore him |
| 22:35.44 | wca | lol |
| 22:35.48 | TD | he makes tom cruise look like a tramp |
| 22:35.51 | ChipX86 | hah. |
| 22:35.52 | wca | i think i saw a pic of chip once |
| 22:35.55 | ChipX86 | I'm jsut your average geek |
| 22:36.00 | wca | lol |
| 22:36.03 | TD | do you have a pony tail? no. |
| 22:36.06 | TD | i rest my case |
| 22:36.12 | wca | the average geek has a long beard, a ponytail, and is fat |
| 22:36.18 | ChipX86 | ok |
| 22:36.19 | ChipX86 | so not average |
| 22:36.23 | wca | only the latter applies to me ;/ |
| 22:36.29 | TD | he's an extraordinary geek! |
| 22:36.47 | wca | lol |
| 22:36.52 | ChipX86 | I wonder if I have a decent pic somewhere |
| 22:37.03 | TD | i should get a better pic of myself than the one on my website actually. |
| 22:37.17 | wca | http://www.flickr.com/photos/cmeador/13447957/ |
| 22:37.39 | TD | i dunno. i kind of wish things would happen with manya actually, she's one of the more interesting girls i've met lately |
| 22:37.43 | ChipX86 | ooh, I have my Destroy Mornings pic |
| 22:37.45 | TD | but it's hard to get to know somebody when they live so far away |
| 22:37.45 | file | eep it's wca |
| 22:37.51 | ChipX86 | http://destroymornings.com/images/merchandise/me-shirt.jpg |
| 22:37.58 | TD | wca: cool! |
| 22:38.03 | TD | you don't look that fat |
| 22:38.04 | wca | ayup |
| 22:38.09 | wca | you don't see my belly :) |
| 22:38.20 | TD | haha, not seen that pic before ChipX86 |
| 22:38.31 | ChipX86 | TD: for some reason, some of the girls like that one a lot |
| 22:38.37 | wca | lol @ chip's pic |
| 22:38.44 | ChipX86 | hmm I have a pic of me sleeping somewhere after Dell's massage |
| 22:38.47 | file | http://gallery.indigent-networks.com/AtriptoSanFrancisco/p3110144 |
| 22:38.48 | TD | there is a very old one of me here: http://navi.cx/~mike/ |
| 22:38.51 | ChipX86 | no real good pics :) |
| 22:39.19 | wca | SF ownz |
| 22:39.49 | wca | were you on one of those pier 39 tour boats |
| 22:39.54 | file | yes |
| 22:39.59 | wca | cool, i did that too |
| 22:40.00 | wca | a month ago |
| 22:40.03 | wca | well |
| 22:40.06 | wca | month and a half now |
| 22:40.08 | CIA-3 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r8324 10motion/utilities/ (AMCEditor.cs CurveEditor.cs Makefile WriteData.cs): split the amc editor into a few more files, add a small utility to dump a single dof in the motion capture, so i can plot histograms |
| 22:40.19 | TD | it's file! |
| 22:40.24 | file | yes, it is |
| 22:40.36 | wca | like, omg :P |
| 22:40.52 | wca | i guess the geek description i gave really isn't typical these days |
| 22:40.57 | wca | especially among younger geeks |
| 22:41.24 | file | http://host-a.starnetworks.us/Members/kpfleming/spring_von/photoalbum_photo_view?b_start=8 |
| 22:41.26 | wca | mmm.. hot women in boulder |
| 22:41.53 | file | http://gallery.indigent-networks.com/SpringVON2005/p3080023 geek girl!!! |
| 22:41.53 | wca | oh you're into the pbx thing file? |
| 22:42.03 | file | wca: more then you could imagine |
| 22:42.08 | wca | do tell |
| 22:42.34 | file | asterisk... ser... I do it all, it's my job |
| 22:42.52 | wca | what specifically? |
| 22:42.55 | file | http://gallery.indigent-networks.com/SpringVON2005/p3080030 which phone would you pick up?!? |
| 22:43.02 | wca | none, i hate phones |
| 22:43.08 | wca | or more accurately i hate telcos |
| 22:43.25 | file | wca: I officially work on SER as a SIP specialist at a company called Asterlink, http://www.asterlink.com/ |
| 22:43.31 | file | but I'm also a developer with Asterisk |
| 22:43.34 | ChipX86 | this code is challenging. Tempted to just sit outside by the pond and think about it for a while |
| 22:43.36 | wca | ah |
| 22:43.37 | TD | ChipX86: here's one of me looking very sunburnt at wineconf |
| 22:43.38 | TD | http://navi.cx/~mike/mike3.jpg |
| 22:43.40 | ChipX86 | not coming up with anything decent |
| 22:43.47 | ChipX86 | hah |
| 22:43.49 | ChipX86 | ouch |
| 22:43.52 | TD | yes :( |
| 22:44.02 | TD | and it's another sucky photo |
| 22:44.06 | file | oh wow I found a picture of David |
| 22:45.03 | file | I'll have more pics in August when I head to Chicago |
| 22:45.36 | wca | cool |
| 22:45.46 | darth_mall | hrm |
| 22:45.58 | file | then it's Atlanta in October |
| 22:46.02 | darth_mall | well it seems that the problem is a combination of making this object static and a member var of another class |
| 22:46.10 | file | and maybe Boston in September |
| 22:46.40 | darth_mall | wow, it's almost 5 |
| 22:46.56 | file | I need to force myself to get this work done |
| 22:47.08 | ChipX86 | TD: so I was talking ot Jamie the other night about things she'd like to do in the future, and with school, etc |
| 22:47.21 | TD | ah, one of those discussions :) |
| 22:47.22 | ChipX86 | she said she would like to take a semester off in a year or two and travel Europe.. with me :) |
| 22:47.22 | wca | hopefully she's ambitious? |
| 22:47.29 | TD | nice |
| 22:47.31 | wca | hey, that would rule |
| 22:47.38 | wca | i'd like to visit europe again |
| 23:12.40 | *** join/#tacobeam jbot (ibot@apt.bot.TimRiker.active.supporter.pdpc) |
| 23:12.40 | *** topic/#tacobeam is Today's interesting fact: there is only one underground station which has a name that does not contain any of the letters in "mackerel" |
| 23:17.25 | ChipX86 | ooh |
| 23:17.47 | ChipX86 | Tuesday and Wednesday evenings, we're watching Star Wars episodes 1 and 2 in the Hillview lunch area on the projector |
| 23:18.31 | ChipX86 | for preparation for Thursday |
| 23:21.56 | numist | ... |
| 23:22.04 | numist | why submit yourself to such a thing? |
| 23:22.08 | darth_mall | ... ... |
| 23:23.19 | CIA-3 | g2bridge: 03evan * r116 10/tests/ (Makefile.am test_opto.cpp): Determined the problem is not with unitpp |
| 23:23.59 | CIA-3 | g2bridge: 03evan * r117 10/src/ (9 files): |
| 23:23.59 | CIA-3 | g2bridge: After much monkeying around I've discovered that I'm not going to be able |
| 23:23.59 | CIA-3 | g2bridge: to keep the ErrLog as a static member of Exception. I'll need to find another |
| 23:23.59 | CIA-3 | g2bridge: solution. |
| 23:29.46 | CIA-3 | g2bridge: 03evan * r118 10/src/ (16 files): ws |
| 23:30.06 | darth_mall | welp... I think I can call it a day now |
| 23:30.36 | numist | agreed |
| 23:44.47 | Laser_Dolphin | SSo what's going on with Navi right now? |
| 23:46.18 | CIA-3 | autopackage: 03mike * 10autopackage/main/TODO: update TODO |
| 23:46.50 | purple_cow | Laser_Dolphin: power supply failed |
| 23:47.11 | purple_cow | micah put yoshi's psu in there, but it's nowhere big enough for the disks |
| 23:48.16 | Laser_Dolphin | ouch |
| 23:48.30 | Laser_Dolphin | Any idea on when it's going to be back up? / |
| 23:50.43 | purple_cow | i'm going to try to get the music disk up in the next few days |
| 23:54.51 | purple_cow | but the other stuff will probably wait until after micah's italy trip and he gets a chance to either fix the old psu or order a new one |
| 23:55.55 | purple_cow | god, how is it that *all* of these comments suck so much |
| 23:56.02 | purple_cow | if(exists) // if yes |
| 23:56.05 | purple_cow | else // if no |
| 23:56.10 | kergoth | haha |
| 23:56.47 | ChipX86 | haha |
| 23:56.53 | ChipX86 | they just came from a CS class :) |
| 23:57.50 | purple_cow | but this was written by a CS senior, who was supposedly pretty bright |
| 23:58.14 | ChipX86 | I should add a comment on every blank line of my code saying // this line intentionally left blank |
| 23:59.18 | CIA-3 | autopackage: 03mike * 10autopackage/main/ (ChangeLog share/apkg-bashlib): Check if we have a terminal at startup and use that in the tracing functions. |
