| 00:00.43 | ChipX86 | "I guess the line between food preparation, basic J2EE servlets and space teleportation is very thin these days." |
| 00:00.48 | ChipX86 | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:01.46 | ChipX86 | there was a post about quantum teleportation on ibm.com |
| 00:01.51 | ChipX86 | it was forwarded to fun-list |
| 00:02.08 | ChipX86 | and then the guy working on some of hte stuff there was apparently a guy that one of the guys here roomed with |
| 00:02.28 | ChipX86 | the guy here I think worked on J2EE stuff and the guy at ibm was in food preparation at the time |
| 00:02.57 | purple_cow | ah |
| 00:04.26 | ChipX86 | ah, no, there were two people who are working on quantum teleportation. They're husband and wife. He worked with the husband at one point and they were both working on J2EE. The wife was running a food catering service |
| 00:06.18 | ChipX86 | heh, ex-husband now |
| 00:06.22 | ChipX86 | yet they work together. Fun. |
| 00:06.58 | ChipX86 | or.. confused.. ignore me |
| 00:09.18 | ChipX86 | ooh, proposed team outing to see H2G2 |
| 00:12.13 | kergoth | haha, i never noticed, if you keep clicking on an npc in wow, it does the same sort of thing it did in warcraft 2 |
| 00:12.18 | kergoth | "i'm not amused." |
| 00:12.22 | ChipX86 | nice |
| 00:12.22 | kergoth | "dont tempt my wrath!" |
| 00:12.23 | ChipX86 | I wondered |
| 00:12.25 | kergoth | "i'm starting to hate you." |
| 00:12.27 | ChipX86 | do sheep explode? |
| 00:12.29 | kergoth | :D |
| 00:12.31 | kergoth | haha, dunno |
| 00:12.34 | ChipX86 | they should |
| 00:12.38 | ChipX86 | see if squirrels explode |
| 00:12.39 | ChipX86 | I'd be happy |
| 00:13.10 | darth_mall | heh |
| 00:21.27 | purple_cow | bah, therm server is down |
| 00:21.48 | ChipX86 | wow, it's almost time to head home |
| 00:23.55 | purple_cow | time to go be bored for a few hours |
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| 00:27.12 | laodamas | muku muku |
| 00:35.58 | darth_mall | grrr |
| 00:36.00 | darth_mall | this is really annoying |
| 00:36.26 | TD | hey ChipX86 |
| 00:43.55 | CIA-5 | OpenGameFramework: 03jeffm2501 * 10playground/client/ (6 files in 2 dirs): |
| 00:46.07 | ChipX86 | hey TD |
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| 01:11.09 | ChipX86 | cool, getting some time off sometime in the next few weeks to visit famil |
| 01:11.09 | ChipX86 | y |
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| 01:16.05 | slimspace | purple_cow or scanline: I had a port open (32821) in the firewall leading to golem:22, and since the problem this mrning, it seems to have closed up. Any chance it could be opened again? |
| 01:16.13 | ChipX86 | everyone's passing along game urls on fun-list and reporting high scoreds |
| 01:16.18 | ChipX86 | nice to know so much work is getting done |
| 01:18.01 | kergoth | hah, yay for a level 60 rogue appearing out of nowhere to help kill the captain of hte scarlet crusaders |
| 01:25.48 | kergoth | i like the drive-by 2001 mix of hey pretty |
| 01:25.50 | kergoth | good stuff |
| 01:29.37 | ChipX86 | awesome, a game where you pick a spot on this guy and then press the button when the power level is highest and he gets kicked and falls down the stairs. The more he's hurt, the higher your score |
| 01:30.55 | kergoth | hehe |
| 01:34.45 | ChipX86 | bbl |
| 02:09.21 | ChipX86 | awesome, Leo Laporte set up an ogg feed for Return of the Screen S*bleep* |
| 02:13.35 | CIA-5 | galago: 03chipx86 * r1712 10galago-daemon/ (ChangeLog NEWS configure.ac): Bump to version 0.3.1.90. |
| 02:18.46 | pagefault | back |
| 02:18.51 | lurgy | front |
| 02:19.27 | kergoth | ChipX86: level 13, working on silverpine stuff :) |
| 02:19.31 | ChipX86 | cool |
| 02:26.04 | CIA-5 | galago: 03chipx86 * r1713 10galago-daemon/ (12 files in 2 dirs): |
| 02:26.06 | CIA-5 | galago: Added a new command table API that lets us conveniently create a simple table of |
| 02:26.08 | CIA-5 | galago: D-BUS message commands and execute based on the table. The large groups of |
| 02:26.10 | CIA-5 | galago: conditionals are now small macro-based lookup tables and calls to a single |
| 02:26.12 | CIA-5 | galago: function. |
| 02:27.49 | ChipX86 | so exhausted.. |
| 02:37.28 | pagefault | haha |
| 02:37.32 | pagefault | they all finally got laid off? |
| 02:37.49 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 02:37.52 | ChipX86 | well, most |
| 02:37.55 | ChipX86 | well.. hmm |
| 02:38.05 | ChipX86 | Leo's working in Canada on the show up there |
| 02:38.07 | pagefault | that was so dirty what comcast did |
| 02:38.19 | ChipX86 | one of them is working on the new version of the show here, which they renamed from The Screen Savers to Attack Of The Show |
| 02:38.28 | file | yay work paying for my entire trip to cluecon, provided I speak and teach since I'm an employee |
| 02:38.49 | ChipX86 | they decided to all get together and do a weekly free radio show |
| 02:39.05 | file | I can't help but think that guy looks familiar... |
| 02:47.09 | numist | layoffs? |
| 02:50.14 | kergoth | *police radio* "is it me, or is rap music just getting lazier?" |
| 02:50.23 | numist | nice |
| 03:07.28 | CIA-5 | galago: 03chipx86 * r1714 10galago-daemon/ (13 files in 2 dirs): More massive cleanups, and move the new cmdtable.[ch] into filter.[ch]. These changes have reduced the codebase by over 400 lines. |
| 03:09.18 | ChipX86 | hah, you can trade in your new 32-bit WinXP for a 64 bit for only $12, but you lose your warranty |
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| 03:30.09 | nullpuppy | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:33.33 | darth_mall | man that movie was wicked |
| 03:49.04 | ChipX86 | http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5384561980&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&rd=1 |
| 03:50.43 | darth_mall | ChipX86: gonna get that for Jamie? >;) |
| 03:50.48 | ChipX86 | she's the high bidder |
| 03:51.19 | darth_mall | sweet |
| 03:51.34 | darth_mall | oooh... Angry Johnny |
| 03:53.45 | numist | jamie must be quite small... |
| 03:55.54 | lurgy | numist: i'd think so, to fit in a 3.5' tall dress ;) |
| 03:55.57 | darth_mall | hmmm.... I think I've got something of a blister from running in those boots |
| 03:56.08 | file | :( |
| 03:56.12 | file | blisters make me sad |
| 03:57.04 | numist | I was thinking its largest dimension is bust: 32" |
| 03:57.18 | numist | shit, Im skinny as hell, and thats my waist size... |
| 03:59.10 | numist | beats me... |
| 03:59.22 | numist | woot! |
| 03:59.29 | kergoth | bored |
| 03:59.35 | file | pagefault: looks like I'll be flying through Montreal, not Toronto, in August |
| 03:59.39 | numist | waiting for my kernel to finish... damn you |
| 03:59.57 | file | kergoth: do something? |
| 04:19.16 | purple_cow | blah |
| 04:24.11 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r8082 10fyre/src/ (Makefile.am NavigationImage.cs): it's almost a good thing that choirs can't STFU, since i got this working during their noise exchanges |
| 04:29.24 | ChipX86 | o/~ Everyone has had more sex than me! o/~ |
| 04:51.44 | purple_cow | hrmph |
| 04:54.04 | darth_mall | whoa... |
| 04:54.10 | darth_mall | Full Metal Alchemist just got creepy |
| 05:14.13 | lurgy | hmm, safeway, i might be up for something of that nature if you give me a while |
| 05:14.21 | purple_cow | how long? |
| 05:16.23 | purple_cow | hehe. i think this project is definitely going to be classified as a "soundscape" rather than a "piece" |
| 05:16.29 | lurgy | 'bout 15 minutes? |
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| 05:18.02 | purple_cow | mmmk |
| 05:19.27 | purple_cow | navi:/tmp/progress.wav |
| 05:31.26 | purple_cow | err, dirt |
| 05:41.44 | lurgy | ah right |
| 05:41.44 | lurgy | safeway! |
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| 06:51.31 | ChipX86 | huh. Weird. I'm craving a McDonalds hamburger |
| 06:53.38 | kergoth | heh |
| 06:54.21 | ChipX86 | I've had a total of about 4 in the past 8 months |
| 06:55.35 | ChipX86 | god that sounds so amazingly good |
| 06:59.03 | ChipX86 | hmm.. I could work tonight, or I could read about 25 more issues of this manga |
| 07:16.59 | purple_cow | hahahaha |
| 07:17.21 | *** topic/#tacobeam by purple_cow -> While running to the store, a leopard nearly bit me |
| 07:30.34 | purple_cow | hahaha |
| 07:30.37 | purple_cow | nasa.com != nasa.gov |
| 07:31.26 | rioter | :( i have a song in my unlabeled folder that i really like and i hvae no idea who released it |
| 07:32.05 | lurgy | heh |
| 07:32.43 | purple_cow | pretty birthday photos from hubble |
| 07:33.36 | purple_cow | http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2005-04/26/content_2878744.htm |
| 07:53.10 | ChipX86 | bah, I want to stop reading this manga but they keep adding suspense to the end of each one |
| 07:53.52 | purple_cow | hehe |
| 07:55.48 | purple_cow | my heart was so warmed today |
| 07:56.08 | purple_cow | i saw two people (guessing freshmen by their age) playing tennis-ball golf on campus\ |
| 07:57.04 | purple_cow | (which is something my buddies and i started *our* freshmen year) |
| 07:57.17 | lurgy | hehe |
| 07:57.19 | lurgy | back in the day |
| 07:58.02 | purple_cow | i guess i've yet to see anyone else doing bicycle jousting with whiffle bats |
| 07:59.33 | purple_cow | oooooh |
| 07:59.45 | purple_cow | seagate has just started a 5-year warranty program |
| 08:03.38 | nullpuppy | just started? its been that way for a while now... |
| 08:04.05 | purple_cow | well, started a couple months ago, and retroactive to last year |
| 08:04.10 | nullpuppy | yeah |
| 08:04.22 | nullpuppy | anyways... time for teh sleepage |
| 08:04.25 | nullpuppy | nini |
| 08:04.28 | nullpuppy | *poof* |
| 08:05.36 | rioter | http://www.fapfap.net/uploads/files/Image073.jpg <- my new piercing, probably not best if your a little squemish |
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| 08:21.35 | ChipX86 | hmm, I feel like hacking vmware a bit |
| 08:21.57 | ChipX86 | http://syoni.deviantart.com/journal/5189965/ |
| 08:21.58 | ChipX86 | :)) |
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| 08:26.03 | purple_cow | :) |
| 08:26.25 | ChipX86 | it's fun to make someone happy |
| 08:27.32 | ChipX86 | g'nigh |
| 08:27.33 | ChipX86 | t |
| 08:29.12 | CIA-5 | galago: 03chipx86 * r1715 10galago-daemon/ (ChangeLog NEWS configure.ac): Require D-BUS 0.23.x. |
| 08:29.56 | ChipX86 | :) |
| 08:30.03 | ChipX86 | I was going to do that earlier, but didn't |
| 08:30.31 | kergoth | hehe |
| 08:30.43 | kergoth | hmm.. speaking of birthdays, mine is on wednesday apparently |
| 08:30.46 | kergoth | i nearly forgot my own birthday |
| 08:30.48 | ChipX86 | oh wow |
| 08:30.50 | ChipX86 | ha |
| 08:30.53 | kergoth | 25 |
| 08:30.54 | ChipX86 | you should remember such things |
| 08:30.57 | kergoth | half way through the decade to 30 |
| 08:30.59 | kergoth | how depressing |
| 08:31.02 | ChipX86 | :/ |
| 08:31.07 | kergoth | 30 is coming for me |
| 08:31.08 | kergoth | i can feel it |
| 08:32.25 | ChipX86 | think of it this way.. it's only double 15 |
| 08:33.03 | kergoth | hehe |
| 08:33.18 | kergoth | i'm a quarter of a century |
| 08:34.00 | ChipX86 | it's only being 6 years old 5 times |
| 08:34.03 | ChipX86 | and 6 is just a kid |
| 08:34.05 | ChipX86 | so you're only 5 kids |
| 08:34.28 | kergoth | hehe |
| 08:34.30 | kergoth | thanks |
| 08:34.42 | kergoth | since i'm not moved yet, wednesday is gonna be lonely and depressing :( |
| 08:34.48 | ChipX86 | :(( |
| 08:34.52 | ChipX86 | come visit |
| 08:36.21 | kergoth | i need to get off my fat ass and buy boxes and pack and stuff :\ |
| 08:36.31 | kergoth | did you know you can fish in that green sludge in undercity?: |
| 08:36.36 | kergoth | you wouldnt think thatd be very healthy |
| 08:36.40 | ChipX86 | haha |
| 08:37.21 | kergoth | course we're already undead, whats the worst that can happen |
| 08:37.26 | ChipX86 | death |
| 08:37.31 | kergoth | hehe |
| 08:37.31 | CIA-5 | galago: 03chipx86 * r1716 10galago-daemon/ (6 files in 2 dirs): Further clean up the codebase by removing all legacy code for D-BUS < 0.23. |
| 08:37.34 | ChipX86 | as we've experienced over and over and over and over and over |
| 08:37.35 | kergoth | again |
| 08:37.39 | kergoth | :) |
| 08:37.52 | kergoth | i've experienced death a lot as a priest |
| 08:38.11 | ChipX86 | I bet |
| 08:38.13 | ChipX86 | brb |
| 08:41.56 | ChipX86 | back |
| 08:42.58 | CIA-5 | galago: 03chipx86 * r1717 10galago-daemon/ (ChangeLog configure.ac): Require libgalago 0.3.1.90+. |
| 08:44.18 | ChipX86 | man I dont' want to sleep. I'm motivated now |
| 08:48.39 | ChipX86 | woot, 51 more lines gone |
| 08:48.42 | kergoth | heh, need to take advantage of those motivated moods |
| 08:48.49 | kergoth | i just fished a chest out of the ocean. nifty |
| 08:49.04 | ChipX86 | hah, cool |
| 08:50.09 | CIA-5 | galago: 03chipx86 * r1718 10galago-daemon/ (5 files in 2 dirs): Moved to the new GALAGO_REGISTER_CLASS macro for class registration. The number of lines is going down, baby. |
| 08:50.18 | ChipX86 | I think before the next gnome-presence-applet release, I'm going to allow for tearing off presence indicator labels to stick anywhere on the desktop |
| 08:52.17 | CIA-5 | galago: 03ChipX86 * 10wiki/Main_Page: Add a Release Policy link. |
| 08:53.20 | ChipX86 | eep, I need to actually read galago-devel |
| 08:58.09 | ChipX86 | hrm very strange |
| 08:58.19 | ChipX86 | Jamie keeps appearing unidle every so often, like she's at the computer |
| 08:58.23 | ChipX86 | but I'm pretty certain she's asleep |
| 08:58.36 | ChipX86 | this happens every night |
| 08:59.23 | rioter | does she own a cat? |
| 08:59.58 | ChipX86 | nope |
| 09:01.20 | ChipX86 | and now idle and away again |
| 09:01.28 | ChipX86 | every so often, it just switches |
| 09:12.54 | CIA-5 | galago: 03ChipX86 * 10wiki/Release_Policy: Added a general release policy page. |
| 09:13.10 | ChipX86 | I should be asleep |
| 09:18.02 | kergoth | weird |
| 09:18.06 | kergoth | i just caught fish that i cant eat. |
| 09:18.11 | kergoth | until i get up another level |
| 09:18.15 | kergoth | i can catch it, but i cant eat it. |
| 09:18.35 | ChipX86 | haha |
| 09:20.01 | ChipX86 | galago needs a logo badly |
| 09:23.30 | ChipX86 | ok, got one that probably isn't very good for the project, but it's funny |
| 09:24.32 | ChipX86 | or it might work.. |
| 09:24.41 | ChipX86 | frighteningly, it just might |
| 09:25.47 | ChipX86 | or it'll be a new batch of smileys |
| 09:26.21 | ChipX86 | yeah, smileys |
| 09:26.51 | kergoth | hahaha |
| 09:26.55 | kergoth | i just caught: |
| 09:26.57 | kergoth | 19 Pound Catfish |
| 09:27.01 | kergoth | Held in offhand. |
| 09:27.06 | ChipX86 | hahah |
| 09:27.10 | ChipX86 | do you wack people with it? |
| 09:27.15 | kergoth | dunno :) |
| 09:27.19 | kergoth | doesnt have any effects or anything |
| 09:27.22 | kergoth | its just a big catfish |
| 09:27.34 | kergoth | i'm so gonna walk around holding a catfish |
| 09:27.46 | ChipX86 | haha |
| 09:28.10 | kergoth | hahaha |
| 09:28.11 | kergoth | screenshot time |
| 09:29.02 | ChipX86 | why the hell am I up at 02:28 making smileys? |
| 09:31.18 | kergoth | ChipX86: http://kergoth.com/images/wow_sshot09.png |
| 09:31.29 | ChipX86 | hahaha |
| 09:31.44 | kergoth | :D |
| 09:33.21 | ChipX86 | what other smiley.. |
| 09:33.45 | ChipX86 | this started out as a galago logo :~( |
| 09:33.57 | kergoth | hehe |
| 09:38.08 | ChipX86 | http://osiris.chipx86.com/art/smileys/smileys-1-large.png |
| 09:38.11 | ChipX86 | http://osiris.chipx86.com/art/smileys/smileys-1-small.png |
| 09:39.54 | ChipX86 | I should go to bed |
| 09:40.10 | kergoth | hehe. cute. |
| 09:49.28 | ChipX86 | there, put it on deviantart, because why not |
| 09:49.40 | ChipX86 | wow comments |
| 09:51.39 | ChipX86|Sleep | g'night |
| 15:04.35 | pagefault | wee |
| 15:04.52 | file | yay pagefault |
| 15:05.05 | pagefault | sup |
| 15:07.01 | Samy | :) |
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| 15:52.18 | darth_mall | hmm... did navi go down again last night? |
| 16:01.31 | purple_cow | nope |
| 16:03.41 | purple_cow | 'cuz your dircproxy quit about 1:30? |
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| 16:25.01 | pagefault | hmm |
| 16:25.02 | pagefault | dell cell phones |
| 16:27.07 | file | what? |
| 16:31.24 | pagefault | they are making axim with a phone soon |
| 16:33.34 | file | ic |
| 16:40.21 | pagefault | pizza |
| 16:49.05 | pagefault | so whats up |
| 16:54.42 | file | FONE |
| 16:54.47 | file | er fone |
| 16:55.38 | CIA-5 | spacegrant: 03dowty * r1228 10devices/speck/deltasigma.py: Modify the delta-sigma VFC simulator to plot output error |
| 16:56.05 | purple_cow | why the hell does everyone want to combine cell phones and pdas? |
| 16:58.29 | numist | I dont know... |
| 17:06.05 | darth_mall | because people like gadgets |
| 17:07.02 | numist | yeah... but I like mine to be useful |
| 17:07.20 | darth_mall | see... most people aren't like that though |
| 17:07.24 | darth_mall | they just like gadgets |
| 17:07.28 | darth_mall | like the iPod photo |
| 17:07.50 | numist | the ipod photo would be useful if it had wifi and a keyboard ;) |
| 17:07.57 | numist | dual ARM 90MHz? put gentoo on it :D |
| 17:09.13 | numist | Ive been in a strangely Enigma mood lately... been listening to them nonstop |
| 17:11.46 | darth_mall | numist: and a bigger screen... so, the iPod photo would be useful if it were a laptop, not an MP3 player? |
| 17:13.07 | numist | a very small laptop |
| 17:13.24 | numist | with gps, for wardriving, but keep the headphone jack so I can use it in my car :) |
| 17:13.37 | numist | so, darth_mall, maybe I should just build my own :P |
| 17:16.01 | darth_mall | what, iPod photo? |
| 17:20.53 | numist | $20? I dont have a hdd thats $20 |
| 17:21.02 | numist | and with a car battery... methinks it wont be as portable... |
| 17:21.16 | darth_mall | it was pretty funny |
| 17:21.31 | darth_mall | came with a strap for carrying the car battery |
| 17:21.34 | numist | what was it, a 512k hdd? |
| 17:21.35 | numist | :P |
| 17:21.44 | numist | sorry, 4 MB is the smallest I can fathom.. |
| 17:21.55 | darth_mall | you seem a bit offended |
| 17:21.58 | numist | nah |
| 17:22.04 | numist | I just had too much caffeine this morning |
| 17:22.08 | numist | baad idea |
| 17:22.41 | numist | and Im getting more |
| 17:22.42 | darth_mall | and pricewatch has 20G EIDE drives for $18 |
| 17:22.48 | numist | really... |
| 17:23.12 | darth_mall | yep |
| 17:23.15 | numist | so.. $2 car battery |
| 17:23.53 | purple_cow | i know where to get free car batteries, it just requires some stealth and a crowbar |
| 17:23.56 | CIA-5 | zsnes: 03pagefault * 10zsnes/src/linux/sdllink.c: Some comments |
| 17:23.59 | darth_mall | purple_cow: ^^ |
| 17:24.45 | numist | hmm.. youve got a point there |
| 17:24.57 | numist | I guess that karma for $160 is a good deal then... |
| 17:25.07 | numist | sorry.. $170 |
| 17:25.39 | darth_mall | karmas are pretty cool |
| 17:26.00 | darth_mall | also the iRivers are pretty neat, if you've got the money |
| 17:26.40 | numist | nope |
| 17:26.49 | numist | money usually an issue here :/ |
| 17:26.52 | file | yay ubuntu |
| 17:27.00 | darth_mall | iRivers cost about as much as iPods do |
| 17:27.14 | numist | yeah, but note that I never said Id buy an iPod :P |
| 17:27.18 | darth_mall | but they support more formats and don't tie you to iTunes |
| 17:27.24 | darth_mall | I'm just saying |
| 17:27.30 | numist | all I need is mp3 and ogg :/ |
| 17:27.41 | purple_cow | guh, the wireless here is being *really* flaky |
| 17:28.02 | darth_mall | oooh... CRC |
| 17:38.51 | darth_mall | sweet |
| 17:39.01 | darth_mall | we get a cheat sheet for our probability final |
| 17:39.50 | file | a cheat sheet eh? |
| 17:40.31 | purple_cow | guh, stupid wireless |
| 17:41.02 | pagefault | file did you get windows xp 64-bit? |
| 17:42.33 | file | no |
| 17:59.51 | kergoth | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:05.54 | purple_cow | grr, seems like the latest ardour has broken zooming |
| 18:09.52 | pagefault | but iriver players play vorbis :) |
| 18:09.54 | pagefault | and FLAC |
| 18:10.49 | purple_cow | time to shut down and go talk with liz |
| 18:17.33 | numist | made a patch cable, no more flaky wireless |
| 18:17.39 | numist | woo |
| 18:22.12 | pagefault | hehe |
| 18:22.17 | pagefault | thats the one thing that could be improved, wireless |
| 18:22.38 | numist | yeah, esp with windows... my putty session drops every hour or so, never lasts overnight |
| 18:22.52 | numist | then again, windows infrequently lasts overnight, usually I reboot to debian when I get home :/ |
| 18:23.02 | pagefault | need the FCC to set aside more space for unlicensed usage |
| 18:23.14 | numist | there should be a petition on that somewhere... |
| 18:43.09 | numist | ChipX86: late for work? |
| 18:43.15 | ChipX86 | sick.. |
| 18:43.18 | ChipX86 | going to work from home |
| 18:43.19 | numist | bah |
| 18:43.44 | ChipX86 | this flu or whatever I hvae is starting to do more than make me feel exhausted all day long. Starting to actually have stomach aches and stuff |
| 18:44.49 | numist | :/ |
| 18:47.24 | kergoth | :( |
| 18:48.06 | kergoth | so my house is being forclosed and apparently this friday is the date after which i'd have to pay off the entire mortgage to save it. here's hoping i can get together enough cash to get caught up by then :\ |
| 18:48.10 | darth_mall | hrm... |
| 18:48.23 | darth_mall | my TA says I'm not calculating the offset into this FAT correctly, but I'm pretty sure I am |
| 18:51.36 | numist | kergoth: ?! |
| 18:57.48 | darth_mall | ok... wow |
| 18:57.53 | darth_mall | anyone have any experience with mtools |
| 18:58.01 | TD | heya ChipX86 |
| 18:58.03 | ChipX86 | hey |
| 18:58.13 | file | yay room is kinda clean |
| 18:58.16 | TD | i looked at the msn thing. for some reason the client sends BYE in the middle of conversations |
| 18:58.37 | TD | and gaim interprets that as "closed window" |
| 18:58.38 | file | TD: I looked at that and read it as if it's SIP |
| 18:58.43 | ChipX86 | TD: yeah |
| 18:58.46 | ChipX86 | look at the parameter after BYE |
| 18:58.49 | TD | file: it is |
| 18:58.50 | ChipX86 | BYE means a lot of things |
| 18:58.54 | TD | ChipX86: it's the email address |
| 18:59.00 | TD | file: MSNSLP is a variant of SIP |
| 18:59.11 | ChipX86 | a single BYE with no param (or I think a param of 0) means that the window closed. BYE 1 means that the switchboard timed out |
| 18:59.14 | file | creepy |
| 18:59.22 | ChipX86 | MSN SIP-Like Protocol |
| 18:59.32 | file | INVITE, ACK, BYE? |
| 18:59.32 | TD | lol |
| 18:59.43 | TD | is that your backronym of it, or is that what it really stands for |
| 18:59.51 | TD | ChipX86: hrm |
| 18:59.55 | ChipX86 | TD: as far as anybody knows, that's what it stands for |
| 18:59.59 | TD | ChipX86: so "BYE foo@bar.org" is new? |
| 19:00.08 | ChipX86 | hmm no, I think that means the window is closed |
| 19:00.17 | ChipX86 | one sec |
| 19:00.24 | darth_mall | grrr |
| 19:00.53 | ChipX86 | yeah, BYE e-mailaddress means that the window is closed |
| 19:00.53 | TD | ChipX86: does the official client say "The user closed the conversation window" like gaim does, or is its ui representation different. |
| 19:01.00 | TD | hm, ok |
| 19:01.03 | ChipX86 | BYE email 1 means timeout |
| 19:01.33 | ChipX86 | TD: it doesn't say it at all |
| 19:01.43 | ChipX86 | but that's what it's always meant |
| 19:01.49 | TD | ah |
| 19:01.50 | darth_mall | bah... I'm pretty sure this is right |
| 19:02.00 | TD | looks like they decided to change the semantics of that message in the newest version |
| 19:02.06 | ChipX86 | it's ridiculous if they're disconnecting and reopening switchboards on focus changes |
| 19:02.19 | ChipX86 | TD: so it knows to close the connection |
| 19:02.27 | TD | ah |
| 19:02.28 | ChipX86 | conversations are done over separate switchboard connections |
| 19:02.35 | TD | right, that makes sense |
| 19:02.39 | ChipX86 | so you actually connect to a new server and such |
| 19:02.40 | TD | i'd assumed the server would force a disconnect |
| 19:02.43 | TD | yeah |
| 19:02.55 | ChipX86 | yeah, no disconnect is forced |
| 19:02.59 | ChipX86 | because there might be more than 2 people talking |
| 19:03.03 | ChipX86 | or you might invite somebody else |
| 19:03.17 | TD | ok |
| 19:03.19 | ChipX86 | so instead, you're told when the person leaves, and the client can disconnect |
| 19:03.32 | file | ALERT: Female parental unit detected. |
| 19:03.33 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 19:03.41 | TD | looks like i'll need to play with the official client a bit |
| 19:04.05 | TD | if it no longer only leaves the switchboard when the window closes, gaim will have to stop printing it |
| 19:04.15 | ChipX86 | I'm seeing nothing about this foucs thing on the forums |
| 19:04.21 | TD | shame as it's a useful message. but it does seem that the official client re-starts the connection for no obvious reason .... |
| 19:04.25 | ChipX86 | nod |
| 19:04.29 | ChipX86 | you can disable it in prefs, btw |
| 19:04.34 | TD | ok. the focus thing was from a friend who claimed to have asked people what was going on |
| 19:05.01 | TD | why is the timeout message a pref? is there any reason somebody might want to know that? |
| 19:05.25 | ChipX86 | yeah, it was a very heavily requested feature |
| 19:05.29 | ChipX86 | so it was always on |
| 19:05.32 | ChipX86 | and then a pref was added to disable it |
| 19:05.33 | TD | really? |
| 19:05.36 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 19:05.38 | ChipX86 | I liked to know it |
| 19:05.42 | TD | what purpose does it have? |
| 19:05.51 | ChipX86 | knowing if somebody's just trying to ignore you :) |
| 19:06.13 | TD | how does that work .... |
| 19:06.26 | ChipX86 | if you're tlaking to somebody and they don't want to talk to you, they'll just keep closing the window |
| 19:06.37 | TD | oh i see. i meant the switchboard timeout |
| 19:06.39 | ChipX86 | as they don't even imagine you could know about it |
| 19:06.41 | ChipX86 | ohh |
| 19:06.45 | ChipX86 | that's less useful |
| 19:06.52 | TD | yeah i liked the conversation window closed thing too :) |
| 19:06.58 | TD | actually i'd always assumed the official client did it too |
| 19:07.01 | TD | i guess not |
| 19:07.08 | ChipX86 | switchboard timeouts were added in a more recent version |
| 19:07.16 | ChipX86 | so we supported both |
| 19:07.26 | ChipX86 | before that, it was saying the window was closed every 15 mins or whatever |
| 19:07.43 | ChipX86 | some people wanted to know it, so they would know if they were going to receive typing notifications or window close notices |
| 19:07.49 | TD | but what do i know ... |
| 19:07.51 | ChipX86 | as they wouldn't if it timed out |
| 19:07.54 | TD | oh i see. |
| 19:07.56 | TD | lol |
| 19:08.06 | TD | i think you need guru-level knowledge of the MSN protocol to realise that |
| 19:08.08 | ChipX86 | but yeah, there isn't a single thing on here about that |
| 19:08.12 | TD | i always assumed the window closed thing was an official message |
| 19:08.27 | ChipX86 | I imagine your friend was talking to somebody who was trying to close the window over and over, and the person he was talking to didn't want to admit that |
| 19:08.28 | TD | hmm ok. more investigation required |
| 19:08.43 | ChipX86 | or there was something funky going on with the connection |
| 19:08.47 | TD | well maybe. there's definitely something weird going on |
| 19:08.54 | TD | because sometimes i get a BYE and then literally a second later, a message |
| 19:09.03 | TD | they couldn't possibly have closed the window, re-opened it and typed it that fast |
| 19:09.04 | ChipX86 | I haven't seen that happen yet, and I was talking to a friend on the recent MSN for a while yesterday |
| 19:09.14 | ChipX86 | timeout? |
| 19:09.19 | ChipX86 | or window close? |
| 19:09.24 | TD | window close |
| 19:09.29 | ChipX86 | hmmm |
| 19:09.49 | ChipX86 | well, MS has a habit of tweaking the server without testing it |
| 19:09.49 | TD | yeah, but i think it only happens if your friend is using the very latest client |
| 19:10.02 | TD | oh |
| 19:10.04 | TD | really? |
| 19:10.06 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 19:10.12 | ChipX86 | so perhaps there were tweaks going on |
| 19:10.18 | TD | that's ridiculous. how can they not test it before going live? |
| 19:10.20 | ChipX86 | they've introduced some weird bugs in the past |
| 19:10.23 | ChipX86 | it's MS? |
| 19:10.34 | TD | yes it might be a server bug, but this has been going on for a while |
| 19:10.46 | TD | i suspect there is a bug/feature in the new client that resets the switchboard connection sometimes |
| 19:10.53 | ChipX86 | if they change the semantics of BYE, that would completely break multi-user chat |
| 19:10.56 | ChipX86 | so I doubt they did that |
| 19:11.19 | TD | hrm |
| 19:11.23 | TD | interesting |
| 19:12.59 | numist | ChipX86: thought you hated IM ;) |
| 19:13.11 | ChipX86 | numist: hate it but know a lot about it |
| 19:13.15 | ChipX86 | TD: it's so not worth it |
| 19:13.26 | TD | apart from aMSN all the linux chat programs are jabber-only or like gaim, multi-protocol |
| 19:13.27 | ChipX86 | the novelty wears off fast |
| 19:13.33 | TD | heh |
| 19:13.39 | TD | well it's more an itch really |
| 19:13.41 | ChipX86 | especially now that MSNSLP is introduced |
| 19:13.53 | TD | why? what's so bad about that? harder to rev-eng? |
| 19:13.55 | numist | msnslp? |
| 19:13.58 | ChipX86 | binary messages in text messages with a bunch of weird bits that mean things that they shouldn't need to mean |
| 19:14.03 | numist | yikes |
| 19:14.08 | TD | thought so |
| 19:14.11 | ChipX86 | TD: well, ZoRoNaX and I spent months reverse engineering it |
| 19:14.14 | ChipX86 | and we have it documented now |
| 19:14.16 | ChipX86 | but it still sucks badly |
| 19:14.24 | TD | ah, i didn't realise you worked on that |
| 19:14.32 | TD | i saw ZoRoNaX cracked the MSNP11 authentication scheme |
| 19:14.40 | TD | that looked evil as hell. AIM style evil |
| 19:14.40 | numist | I want to code something for my Garmin ForeRunner and make a wardriving application... |
| 19:14.46 | numist | hope it doesnt kill me |
| 19:14.52 | numist | never done device-level code before |
| 19:14.54 | ChipX86 | yeah, I discovered the original packet format for it, and then ZoRoNaX fixed some of it up and went on from my work |
| 19:14.57 | ChipX86 | of course, he never creditted me |
| 19:15.06 | numist | ChipX86: well of course |
| 19:15.07 | TD | ChipX86: that sucks |
| 19:15.16 | numist | TD: the official client works in wine? |
| 19:15.16 | TD | who is this zoronax dude anyway? |
| 19:15.18 | numist | hmm :/ |
| 19:15.19 | ChipX86 | but everyone else who cared knew anyway |
| 19:15.26 | TD | numist: apparently it works well enough for a guy to be adding webcam support |
| 19:15.30 | ChipX86 | TD: some kid who's very interested in reverse engineering the MSN protocol |
| 19:15.32 | numist | nice |
| 19:15.39 | TD | last time i tried it there were serious issues. bugs i'd never seen before |
| 19:15.41 | numist | kid? |
| 19:15.43 | TD | but that was ages ago |
| 19:15.46 | ChipX86 | *shrug* not usre how old he is |
| 19:15.51 | ChipX86 | always got the impression that he was 17 or something |
| 19:15.57 | TD | with a nick like that ... |
| 19:16.13 | TD | and if he didn't credit you that's normally a good sign of immaturity |
| 19:16.33 | numist | immaturity doesnt indicate youth |
| 19:16.49 | numist | definitely indicates inexperience though |
| 19:16.59 | TD | yeah |
| 19:17.53 | ChipX86 | ah well, not a big deal or anything |
| 19:17.57 | TD | ChipX86: why do you hate IM? |
| 19:18.20 | TD | look at it this way. i use it every day. |
| 19:18.28 | TD | so i *appreciate* it a lot :) |
| 19:18.47 | TD | as in your contribution not IM. MSN blows as a protocol/network |
| 19:18.51 | ChipX86 | it's partially because too many people have my screennames :) There are too many kids on there looking to annoy other people, it's too impersonal at times, which is fine for a lot of cases, but I've noticed that sometimes significant others will prefer IM, and that sucks |
| 19:19.02 | TD | lol |
| 19:19.09 | TD | ahh |
| 19:19.14 | ChipX86 | also, this is more of an internet thing, but it's way too easy for people to cheat on someone |
| 19:19.14 | TD | yeah |
| 19:19.16 | numist | msns problem is my sister... all those unicode chars and a nick thats 64 chars long.. *shudder* |
| 19:19.23 | numist | that and message formatting |
| 19:19.28 | ChipX86 | "it's just a chat, not real life, so it's okay to cyber this person while I have a boy/girlfriend!" |
| 19:19.34 | ChipX86 | I've seen it way too much |
| 19:19.37 | TD | :( |
| 19:19.39 | numist | ChipX86: bitter? |
| 19:19.45 | ChipX86 | that's more of an internet thing I guess, but I've seen it over IM and forums the most |
| 19:19.47 | TD | yes, i much prefer chatting on the phone to MSN |
| 19:19.49 | ChipX86 | numist: a bit |
| 19:20.05 | TD | sometimes it feels a bit awkward to say "want me to ring you?" though |
| 19:20.07 | numist | ChipX86: understandable... Id say that IM isnt good or bad, its the people that use it |
| 19:20.17 | numist | I met my gf over aim, much as I hate to admit it... |
| 19:20.28 | ChipX86 | TD: I'm just glad that Jamie prefers the phone. We talk for hours on the phone, while being on IM sometimes for sharing links |
| 19:20.34 | numist | chatted for 2 years, met, dated, been 3 years dating now |
| 19:20.47 | numist | phone take precedence now though |
| 19:20.49 | TD | ChipX86: that's great |
| 19:21.00 | ChipX86 | TD: I'm just glad that Jamie prefers the phone. We talk for hours on the phone, while being on IM sometimes for sharing links |
| 19:21.03 | ChipX86 | oops |
| 19:21.07 | ChipX86 | that wasn't the terminal with 'make' in it |
| 19:21.11 | TD | heh |
| 19:21.11 | numist | nice |
| 19:21.16 | TD | what IRC client are you using, xchat? |
| 19:21.19 | ChipX86 | irssi |
| 19:21.21 | numist | irssi |
| 19:21.22 | numist | woot |
| 19:21.27 | numist | with a screen, iirc |
| 19:21.27 | TD | oh yes, i remember |
| 19:21.35 | ChipX86 | I set out to make a galago logo yesterday |
| 19:21.38 | ChipX86 | it somehow became a series of smilies |
| 19:21.42 | numist | ... |
| 19:21.47 | TD | that's not a bad logo |
| 19:21.50 | TD | well logo idea |
| 19:22.21 | TD | ChipX86: do you just ring jamie whenever? i mean, one of the reasons IM is useful is presence |
| 19:22.25 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 19:22.35 | ChipX86 | I know when she's home, and she'll usually call me, or I'll call her |
| 19:22.42 | darth_mall | blah |
| 19:23.02 | TD | fair enough |
| 19:23.06 | ChipX86 | http://osiris.chipx86.com/art/smileys/smileys-1-large.png |
| 19:23.10 | ChipX86 | http://osiris.chipx86.com/art/smileys/smileys-1-small.png |
| 19:23.14 | TD | yeah, i saw them |
| 19:23.40 | ChipX86 | still need a logo |
| 19:23.42 | TD | it's not bad. could use some refinement, like making them seem more 3D |
| 19:23.48 | TD | ChipX86: talk to AJ Ashton |
| 19:23.50 | darth_mall | it just takes too much effort to try and finish this assignment |
| 19:23.55 | TD | he might be able to do something for you. he did the autopackage logo |
| 19:24.14 | ChipX86 | ok |
| 19:24.18 | TD | http://autopackage.org/autopackage6.png |
| 19:24.26 | ChipX86 | cool |
| 19:24.35 | ChipX86 | that's *almost* as good as my owl art |
| 19:24.48 | darth_mall | hehe |
| 19:24.53 | ChipX86 | ;) |
| 19:24.54 | TD | he's a really talented vector artist, recently discovered inkscape. moving from XP to gentoo |
| 19:24.56 | darth_mall | ChipX86: you could use the owl as a logo |
| 19:24.59 | ChipX86 | haha |
| 19:25.03 | ChipX86 | yeah there we go |
| 19:25.15 | ChipX86 | damn network!! |
| 19:25.15 | TD | unfortunately he's in canada so hardly ever on MSN when i'm awake |
| 19:26.14 | TD | http://daj.deviantart.com/ |
| 19:26.15 | ChipX86 | yeah, those canadians have silly timezones |
| 19:26.51 | ChipX86 | cool |
| 19:27.08 | TD | http://www.deviantart.com/view/17377196/ |
| 19:27.11 | TD | that one is almost photo-realistic |
| 19:27.18 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 19:27.21 | ChipX86 | that one's good |
| 19:28.30 | TD | http://www.deviantart.com/view/14404147/ |
| 19:28.41 | ChipX86 | wow |
| 19:28.46 | ChipX86 | scary good |
| 19:28.51 | ChipX86 | my owl has competition! |
| 19:28.57 | TD | lol |
| 19:29.34 | ChipX86 | yay, the sketch of me is on my Random Favourites |
| 19:29.54 | ChipX86 | http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/14919752/ |
| 19:30.32 | TD | i wish it'd stop crashing |
| 19:30.43 | ChipX86 | me too |
| 19:30.48 | darth_mall | bleh... implementing writing to a FAT12 fs is a pain in the ass |
| 19:31.34 | ChipX86 | wow, been a long time since I've written a FAT12 implementation |
| 19:31.38 | ChipX86 | darth_mall: I feel sorry for you |
| 19:31.38 | TD | lol |
| 19:31.40 | TD | that's really good |
| 19:31.46 | TD | there is such a thing as FAT12? |
| 19:31.49 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 19:31.59 | ChipX86 | floppy disks used it, iirc |
| 19:32.05 | TD | 12-bit? |
| 19:32.15 | ChipX86 | yeah I don't remember what the deal was |
| 19:32.25 | ChipX86 | had to do with how the clusters were layed out or something |
| 19:32.40 | TD | ah ok |
| 19:32.48 | ChipX86 | another me pic! |
| 19:32.51 | ChipX86 | http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/15043237/ |
| 19:32.52 | TD | my sole knowledge of FAT comes from writing a camera photo recovery tool for juliane |
| 19:32.57 | ChipX86 | even though it looks better than me |
| 19:33.36 | TD | and actually i gave up trying to actually parse FAT for that. too much data had been lost |
| 19:33.42 | TD | i just dumped them through brute force |
| 19:34.52 | TD | does stardustcat fancy you or something? |
| 19:35.08 | ChipX86 | she's just a friend. I know she really respects me. Beyond that, I dunno, really |
| 19:35.13 | TD | ah ok ;) |
| 19:35.17 | ChipX86 | though she's not the only one who's drawn me |
| 19:35.33 | ChipX86 | Rachael has, Dell has, Maggie I think has, and Jamie's going to |
| 19:35.44 | darth_mall | oooh |
| 19:36.07 | TD | wow. a true fan club |
| 19:36.07 | darth_mall | hehe |
| 19:36.24 | ChipX86 | http://www.chipx86.com/gallery/People/Family/Christian/bday-drawing.jpg |
| 19:36.49 | ChipX86 | hmm I think Jen has too, but I don't have hers |
| 19:37.38 | TD | heh |
| 19:37.50 | darth_mall | http://www.chipx86.com/gallery/People/Family/Christian/happy-balloon.jpg?PHPSESSID=ff6903e7bda9f714493dd887e29da89e |
| 19:37.52 | darth_mall | I have that shirt! |
| 19:37.54 | darth_mall | =D |
| 19:38.03 | ChipX86 | TD: heh |
| 19:38.03 | TD | well when i go on a roadtrip i'll find out for myself won't i ;) |
| 19:38.10 | ChipX86 | I don't look that good |
| 19:38.20 | ChipX86 | that was back when Rachael liked me |
| 19:38.31 | ChipX86 | just before she stopped, really |
| 19:38.37 | ChipX86 | well, maybe a month before |
| 19:38.39 | darth_mall | heh |
| 19:40.45 | TD | deviantart is cool. manya posts there |
| 19:40.52 | ChipX86 | yeah, I like it there |
| 19:41.09 | TD | too bad i don't do any art |
| 19:41.14 | ChipX86 | DAMN NETWORK |
| 19:41.24 | TD | DA is kinda like the artist equivalent of freshmeat, except good |
| 19:42.03 | darth_mall | FAT12 makes me wish I were dead |
| 19:42.10 | ChipX86 | that's how this network makes me feel |
| 19:42.46 | purple_cow | hmm |
| 19:43.26 | ChipX86 | bored? |
| 19:43.52 | ChipX86 | hmm, 24 is on my tivo |
| 19:44.00 | purple_cow | nope |
| 19:44.06 | TD | yay 24 |
| 19:44.12 | TD | i was watching so many episodes of that over the holidays |
| 19:44.20 | ChipX86 | it should be a good one. Jack just boarded the alien ship on the last one |
| 19:44.21 | TD | several a day. it was very unhealthy :) |
| 19:44.31 | TD | erm |
| 19:44.33 | TD | you're kidding me right |
| 19:44.40 | ChipX86 | yeah, I like to throw you off |
| 19:44.45 | TD | hehe. good :) |
| 19:44.57 | ChipX86 | it's a good season if you ignore the typical hollywood computer speak |
| 19:44.57 | TD | yeah at one point i was walking down the street and i could hear the 24 clock ticking over |
| 19:45.08 | TD | gah i hate that. i wish they'd get a decent geek to write those parts |
| 19:45.17 | TD | as opposed to scriptwriters who clearly just pick random words they heard and throw them together |
| 19:45.24 | ChipX86 | yep |
| 19:45.42 | TD | "I need a protocol from you after you reboot the router, Jack" |
| 19:46.02 | ChipX86 | the overused phrase I hate the most is "security protocol" |
| 19:46.26 | purple_cow | you see, i need sounds for creating the machine |
| 19:46.33 | purple_cow | and navi makes a good sound |
| 19:46.44 | TD | hmm, i'm trying to remember what happened in the last episode i saw |
| 19:46.54 | TD | they're all blending into one .... |
| 19:47.19 | TD | oh yeah. the islamic terrorists just mentioned that the president was still in air force one |
| 19:47.28 | TD | so the whole override thing looks like it was Yet Another diversion |
| 19:47.38 | ChipX86 | ohhhh |
| 19:47.42 | ChipX86 | so you are on the same season? |
| 19:47.53 | ChipX86 | I thought you were one season behind |
| 19:48.08 | TD | i was. over the holiday i watched my box set and then started watching the ones that had been recorded as well |
| 19:48.17 | TD | season 3 (virus) was easily the best so far. some killer writing in that |
| 19:48.26 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 19:48.26 | TD | when jack had to execute chapelle it really shook me up |
| 19:48.29 | ChipX86 | I liked the first though |
| 19:48.44 | ChipX86 | wife and daughter were kidnapped |
| 19:48.45 | ChipX86 | huh. |
| 19:48.49 | ChipX86 | the daughter hasn't even been in this one |
| 19:48.56 | TD | i have a dance/trance remix of the 24 theme tune |
| 19:49.05 | TD | it samples bauer saying those opening lines :) |
| 19:49.33 | TD | "My wife and daughter have been kidnapped, and the people I work with may be involved in both." |
| 19:49.45 | TD | "I'm federal agent Jack Bauer, and this is the longest day of my life" |
| 19:49.53 | ChipX86 | heh I remember that |
| 19:50.08 | ChipX86 | I thought it was going to be a one season thing. Didn't think they could pull off a second season at the quality of the first |
| 19:50.12 | ChipX86 | so far, they've all been amazingly well done |
| 19:50.15 | TD | yep |
| 19:50.18 | TD | well |
| 19:50.20 | ChipX86 | surprisingly so |
| 19:50.23 | TD | there have been a few ropey moments |
| 19:50.29 | ChipX86 | well yeah |
| 19:50.31 | ChipX86 | but compare it to most TV |
| 19:50.31 | TD | season 4 hasn't been as good as season 3 so far, i think |
| 19:50.33 | ChipX86 | and a lot of movies |
| 19:50.39 | TD | oh yes, definitely the best TV going right now |
| 19:51.02 | TD | in season 3 the torture scenes were pretty shocking, it's not often you see stuff like that on TV. |
| 19:51.06 | TD | but in season 4 they overused it totally |
| 19:51.12 | TD | it lost its impact |
| 19:51.29 | TD | and the way each time they foil a plot, it leads neatly into the next gets a bit predictable |
| 19:51.38 | TD | still. definitely worth watching |
| 19:52.48 | TD | god i hate this course: |
| 19:52.50 | TD | Marks allocated based on: |
| 19:52.51 | TD | 1.The analytical nature of your analysis. |
| 19:53.32 | numist | ... |
| 19:53.44 | numist | no shit? |
| 19:53.54 | TD | •What were the 3 most critical problems that you believe your team faced? How did you personally contribute towards addressing and overcoming these? |
| 19:53.54 | TD | •If you were to repeat the project what would be the main things that you would do differently (as a team) and or in particular phases? |
| 19:54.05 | TD | dammit, if i were to repeat the project i'd probably slit my wrists. |
| 19:54.08 | TD | or in Real Life, quit |
| 19:54.27 | TD | i guess i'd better make sure my analysis is suitable analytical |
| 19:59.28 | purple_cow | yay for navi sounding like a big piece of machinery |
| 19:59.29 | Samy | http://www.arabeyes.org :) |
| 20:17.39 | ChipX86 | ugh, feel miserable |
| 20:44.50 | ChipX86 | wow, worst paypal forgery ever |
| 20:44.59 | ChipX86 | From: ER3ZBB_Account@microsoft.com |
| 20:45.03 | ChipX86 | Subject: Update Your Paypal Account. Final Notice ! |
| 20:45.06 | ChipX86 | Please Update your account information by visiting our updates web site |
| 20:45.09 | ChipX86 | below. |
| 20:45.12 | ChipX86 | http://members.lycos.co.uk/qwertyuiop1234/ |
| 20:46.34 | file | yes, quite bad |
| 20:49.10 | file | yay hoary |
| 20:49.38 | ChipX86 | grrr |
| 20:49.52 | ChipX86 | I want to cast a std::vector of one type to another and it's not letting me |
| 21:01.22 | purple_cow | hmm |
| 21:01.26 | purple_cow | i just realized |
| 21:01.34 | purple_cow | the volume is really low |
| 21:01.57 | purple_cow | but i'm in the mood for loud |
| 21:02.07 | purple_cow | damn i love these speakers |
| 21:02.48 | ChipX86 | yay for murray looking into this libsigc++ bug, but boo for him being as confused as us :( |
| 21:15.48 | purple_cow | mmmm |
| 21:15.51 | purple_cow | "wild" is such a pretty song |
| 21:18.08 | TD | hustle is pretty good TV too |
| 21:24.02 | ChipX86 | TD: welp, I opened up a can of worms. Or rather, murray did |
| 21:24.18 | numist | uh oh |
| 21:24.35 | ChipX86 | he wanted me to pass that "people who pay get priority" message, so I did, and now Regis is rather pissed |
| 21:24.40 | TD | ah |
| 21:24.45 | TD | yeah :/ |
| 21:25.27 | ChipX86 | I understand that murray's message may not be that welcome, and really, this is not a vmware-specific problem *at all* so it should be fixed, because any decent-sized C++ app will run into this |
| 21:25.38 | TD | what exactly is the problem? |
| 21:25.46 | TD | i've been debugging mysterious C++ crashes lately |
| 21:26.06 | ChipX86 | I'll show you |
| 21:27.04 | ChipX86 | http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=169225 |
| 21:28.34 | ChipX86 | look at Simplified test case |
| 21:28.46 | ChipX86 | that was the one I wrote that would cause the crash when using libsigc++ |
| 21:29.24 | ChipX86 | it's not an uncommon use case at all, especially with gtkmm |
| 21:29.43 | TD | the one i was looking at was to do with linking and multi-ABI support |
| 21:29.44 | ChipX86 | click a button on a window subclass that has two or more virtual parents, and delete the window in the callback. Boom. |
| 21:30.12 | ChipX86 | a Close button on a dialog that virtually inherits Gtk::Window and MyBase will cause this problem |
| 21:30.26 | ChipX86 | or even just non-virtually inherits Gtk::Window actually |
| 21:30.44 | ChipX86 | because it all boils down to virtually inheritting sigc::trackable somewhere in the class tree |
| 21:30.44 | TD | ouch |
| 21:30.56 | ChipX86 | which Glib::ObjectBase does |
| 21:31.16 | ChipX86 | so it's not like this is ridiculous or vmware-specific in any way :) I'm hoping he does decide to fix it |
| 21:31.30 | ChipX86 | or rather, sticks with it, because he is looking into it now. That comment worried me though |
| 21:31.58 | TD | it does rather imply GTKmm doesn't get much use |
| 21:32.02 | ChipX86 | yes |
| 21:32.11 | purple_cow | what comment? "people who pay get priority" ? |
| 21:32.27 | TD | of course, i naively assumed that when the GCC team said you could mix multiple versions of libstdc++ into an image at once, they'd tried it |
| 21:32.28 | TD | but apparently not |
| 21:32.30 | ChipX86 | purple_cow: <murrayc_> It feels strange to spend days fixing a bug for people who are getting paid to use it. If you have a chance, do mention to the right people that I give priority to people who pay me per hour. |
| 21:33.10 | purple_cow | that doesn't really sound to me like he's going to stop working on it |
| 21:33.16 | ChipX86 | I know, he's not |
| 21:33.20 | purple_cow | just like he's getting frustrated with it taking so long to debug, and needs to make a living :P |
| 21:33.32 | ChipX86 | yeah, no I agree. I was telling Regis the same thing |
| 21:33.36 | ChipX86 | but Regis is all pissed off now |
| 21:34.03 | ChipX86 | I hated it when people demanded things of me, treating me like my projects were my job and I was obligated to help them |
| 21:35.03 | ChipX86 | nod. Regis isn't understanding it though. I think it's been too long since he's worked in open source |
| 21:35.27 | TD | he used to be an open source guy? |
| 21:35.31 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 21:35.37 | ChipX86 | I think he was one of the original VLC guys |
| 21:35.51 | TD | interesting |
| 21:36.26 | slimspace | purple_cow: can I have port 32821 poked out of the firewall again to golem:ssh? |
| 21:36.31 | ChipX86 | http://66.102.7.104/search?q=cache:jLofB2Uq_qYJ:www.videolan.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb/vlms/vlms.c%3Frev%3D1.16+%22Regis+Duchesne%22+videolan&hl=en |
| 21:36.37 | ChipX86 | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:36.53 | file | how cute |
| 21:37.15 | TD | ChipX86: i guess VLC never had much commercial interest |
| 21:37.20 | ChipX86 | nod |
| 21:37.24 | darth_mall | blarg |
| 21:38.34 | file | haha I broke the webservers... |
| 21:40.47 | TD | ChipX86: i don't know C++ well enough and am not awake enough to really parse that bug report :( |
| 21:41.00 | TD | C++ on linux is so flakey, still. even after all these years |
| 21:41.07 | ChipX86 | it's complicated and is more of a sigc++ bug than C++ |
| 21:41.14 | purple_cow | C++ *everywhere* is flaky |
| 21:41.20 | TD | well yeah. i meant "C++ and supporting code" |
| 21:41.37 | TD | that said c++ on windows sucks too, and it never stopped them using it :) |
| 21:41.38 | file | C++ hurts my head |
| 21:43.23 | file | I should get Linux installed on geode... |
| 21:52.35 | ChipX86 | "Cassini finds organic material on Titan" |
| 21:52.49 | darth_mall | C# has definitely affected my design habits in C++... |
| 21:55.01 | file | ChipX86: You are very silly |
| 21:55.24 | ChipX86 | ? |
| 21:55.41 | file | that's what I thought |
| 21:59.21 | ChipX86 | yayy! |
| 22:00.57 | ChipX86 | TD: so which is the last 24 you watched? |
| 22:01.40 | ChipX86 | uh oh! TV is trying to scare us saying that in-store ATMs are dangerous because they might attract bank robbers |
| 22:04.20 | numist | ... |
| 22:04.25 | numist | whats the logic behind that? |
| 22:04.45 | ChipX86 | dunno |
| 22:04.49 | ChipX86 | there's been a lot like that on tvl ately |
| 22:05.01 | ChipX86 | "terrorists might attack a local nuclear powerplant and kill everybody" |
| 22:05.13 | ChipX86 | "dangerous deadly flu was shipped to the wrong lab" |
| 22:05.15 | Samy | The magic of my name. |
| 22:05.20 | Samy | I have random people on IRC hitting on me. |
| 22:05.27 | ChipX86 | :) |
| 22:05.45 | numist | theres always stuff like that on TV |
| 22:06.16 | Samy | haha |
| 22:06.22 | Samy | and now I am apparently a homosexual guy. |
| 22:08.00 | ChipX86 | cool |
| 22:08.42 | ChipX86 | oohh vmware compiled |
| 22:08.54 | file | you are surprised? |
| 22:09.05 | ChipX86 | yeah, because I've been trying to make it compile since yesterday afternoon |
| 22:09.18 | file | ah |
| 22:13.01 | ChipX86 | "The rest of the files are encrypted." "Are you sure?" "Yes, I ran a checksum and built a subroutine." |
| 22:13.25 | TD | lol |
| 22:13.28 | TD | 24! |
| 22:13.36 | numist | ... |
| 22:13.40 | TD | gotta love those plotlines |
| 22:13.43 | ChipX86 | "You're right, they use blowfish algorithm." "How can you tell?" "By the tag on the file headers." "Can you decrypt it?" "Yes, CTU has a proprietary algorithm." |
| 22:13.52 | TD | "a defence contractor built a computer that can TAKE CONTROL OF NUCLEAR POWER PLANTS AND MAKE THEM EXPLODE" |
| 22:13.56 | ChipX86 | "We'll start by hacking the password." |
| 22:13.59 | TD | lol |
| 22:14.03 | numist | ChipX86: to funny |
| 22:14.07 | numist | start with "GOD" |
| 22:14.10 | numist | :P |
| 22:14.11 | TD | did they actually say this or are you just doing a perfect impression? |
| 22:14.16 | ChipX86 | LOVE, SECRET, SEX, and GOD |
| 22:14.20 | numist | aye |
| 22:14.23 | ChipX86 | TD: they said it |
| 22:14.28 | numist | mine is ******** |
| 22:14.29 | TD | awwwwww man |
| 22:14.35 | numist | wait, wrong length.. |
| 22:14.49 | TD | it times like that i wish i knew sweet FA about computers. then it wouldn't bother me |
| 22:14.52 | ChipX86 | one of mine is ***************** |
| 22:14.54 | ChipX86 | TD: yep |
| 22:15.15 | *** topic/#tacobeam by TD -> "You're right, they use blowfish algorithm." ... "Can you decrypt it?" "Yes, CTU has a proprietary algorithm." |
| 22:15.43 | ChipX86 | most overused words: protocol, algorithm, and matrix |
| 22:15.53 | numist | hehe |
| 22:15.54 | TD | and router |
| 22:16.00 | ChipX86 | and firewall |
| 22:16.02 | TD | and "terrorist" |
| 22:16.03 | numist | no one even knows how to use matrix correctly since the movie and car |
| 22:16.05 | TD | hah yeah firewall |
| 22:16.12 | ChipX86 | "It has a 7 layer firewall! I think I can hack it though, through the back door." |
| 22:16.24 | TD | "The virus has disabled the firewalls and the kernel has gone into overdrive" |
| 22:16.31 | ChipX86 | :) |
| 22:16.47 | file | you two are pros at this |
| 22:16.48 | TD | "You know how many terrorists try and hack CTUs computers every day ...." |
| 22:16.53 | TD | tick |
| 22:16.54 | TD | tock |
| 22:16.56 | TD | tick |
| 22:16.57 | TD | tock |
| 22:17.47 | ChipX86 | "The virus has gone in through the backdoor and disabled the security protocols!" "Can you stop it?!" "I think so, but I'll have to write a secondary subroutine to overload the computer matrix." |
| 22:17.53 | TD | haha |
| 22:17.57 | TD | *zing* |
| 22:18.01 | ChipX86 | :) |
| 22:18.29 | ChipX86 | sadly, it'd be hard to tell if I made it up or if it was actually in something |
| 22:18.37 | numist | TD: 50 billion ^ 0 - 1? |
| 22:18.41 | TD | such is the genius behind satire |
| 22:20.31 | ChipX86 | hurray for being sick |
| 22:20.44 | purple_cow | sleepy |
| 22:20.55 | ChipX86 | folding ended up just annoying me :/ |
| 22:21.36 | numist | darth_mall: folding in vim? |
| 22:21.36 | ChipX86 | aww, only 8 of us from our team are going to see HG2G friday |
| 22:21.45 | numist | I like folding, it saved me an hour today |
| 22:21.54 | numist | since the code Im working on sucks |
| 22:21.57 | ChipX86 | H2G2 |
| 22:22.04 | TD | have fun |
| 22:22.04 | ChipX86 | wow. |
| 22:22.15 | ChipX86 | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:22.45 | TD | i bet i will be depressed at how little i've done lately |
| 22:23.07 | ChipX86 | ick, timesheets |
| 22:24.50 | ChipX86 | hmm, looks like my packages are almost here |
| 22:24.58 | ChipX86 | despite it shipping yesterday |
| 22:25.04 | TD | uh oh |
| 22:25.09 | TD | i don't seem to have done one for march |
| 22:25.15 | ChipX86 | uh oh |
| 22:25.20 | TD | oh right. i just never submitted one that month |
| 22:25.29 | ChipX86 | oh booo, two of the books I ordered haven't gone anywher eyet apparently |
| 22:25.54 | ChipX86 | oh, USPS, and no tracking info I guess |
| 22:25.57 | numist | the auction I won, the seller hasnt emailed me or anything yet... boo |
| 22:26.04 | numist | I won over 24 hours ago... |
| 22:26.22 | numist | either that or gmail's pop is brokent |
| 22:26.23 | ChipX86 | I love how USPS doesn't show you any tracking info until after it arrives.... |
| 22:27.11 | ChipX86 | I'm getting another one of those monitors :P |
| 22:28.25 | numist | nope. gmails fine.. Im just unpopular today... :/ |
| 22:29.15 | ChipX86 | oohh, they're rennovating one of our pools |
| 22:29.24 | ChipX86 | I hope they make it bigger and add a diving board |
| 22:30.14 | ChipX86 | http://maps.google.com/maps?q=3351+Alma+st.,+palo+alto,+ca&spn=0.005096,0.009946&t=k&hl=en |
| 22:30.50 | ChipX86 | the pool on the right :D |
| 22:43.49 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10bzflag/include/cURLManager.h: make winsock be all happy on some systems. |
| 22:48.06 | ChipX86 | yay! |
| 22:48.12 | ChipX86 | wait, in the good way? |
| 22:50.21 | darth_mall | not really |
| 22:51.02 | darth_mall | in that way where I keep trying to focus and whatever I'm trying to think of just slips away |
| 22:56.30 | numist | Im getting that too |
| 22:56.38 | ChipX86 | http://images.betanews.com/betanews/articles/1114480209/triton.png |
| 22:56.39 | ChipX86 | the new AIM |
| 22:56.56 | numist | complete with big brother technology |
| 22:58.24 | kergoth | ChipX86: i fished a second 19 pound catfish to hold in the offhand if you want one :P |
| 22:58.30 | ChipX86 | haha sure |
| 23:00.22 | purple_cow | mmm, violent |
| 23:03.27 | file | pagefault: for? |
| 23:10.43 | pagefault | fud |
| 23:15.34 | file | bah |
| 23:16.37 | kergoth | bleh |
| 23:22.56 | ChipX86 | think I'll get a pizz |
| 23:22.56 | ChipX86 | a |
| 23:23.02 | ChipX86 | I feel like I need food, and there's not much here |
| 23:23.12 | kergoth | thats what i was just thinking about, myself |
| 23:23.27 | kergoth | ChipX86: priest is nearly 16. :) |
| 23:23.42 | file | mmm... pizza... |
| 23:27.20 | ChipX86 | heh, called to order. He got to my name and after I told him, he said, "So, small pepperoni and black olives, yes?" |
| 23:27.27 | kergoth | hehe |
| 23:27.31 | ChipX86 | also, free soda |
| 23:27.43 | file | why free soda?!? |
| 23:27.44 | ChipX86 | damn! had a coupon. Ah well. |
| 23:27.48 | ChipX86 | file: he always gives me free soda |
| 23:27.53 | file | ooh |
| 23:27.56 | ChipX86 | I eat there often enough that they give me freebies |
| 23:28.02 | file | I'm envious! |
| 23:28.07 | ChipX86 | that's how he was able to tell me my order when I said my name |
| 23:32.07 | slimspace | purple_cow: poke |
| 23:33.17 | ChipX86 | yay west wing |
