| 00:05.02 | ChipX86 | bah, wish Rachel was on |
| 00:07.18 | darth_mall | gonkulator: I've got equations for going the other way, you could just reverse them |
| 00:07.27 | darth_mall | do you want that document? |
| 00:09.40 | gonkulator | nah, I just needed a quick conversion |
| 00:09.53 | gonkulator | google helped me out |
| 00:10.02 | gonkulator | thanks though |
| 00:10.39 | file[mac] | so gonkulator, are you actually a cyborg in disguise? |
| 00:11.09 | gonkulator | nope |
| 00:13.01 | file[mac] | brb |
| 00:13.52 | gonkulator | so... darth_mall... if I told you I had about 1500 bucks to spend on a laptop, how would you suggest I spent it? |
| 00:18.20 | darth_mall | well... my laptop wa about that much |
| 00:18.27 | darth_mall | but I'd also recommend purple_cow's |
| 00:18.32 | darth_mall | not sure how much his was, though |
| 00:18.38 | gonkulator | more |
| 00:18.48 | darth_mall | purple_cow has a Thinkpad X40 |
| 00:18.50 | ChipX86 | they have $500 off right now |
| 00:18.52 | darth_mall | outside of those, I dunno |
| 00:18.58 | ChipX86 | I have a Thinkpad T42p. I love it. |
| 00:19.40 | darth_mall | and to get working acpi stuff you have to use a custom DSDT, but other than that everything works fine |
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| 00:23.38 | darth_mall | gonkulator: it doesn't take long |
| 00:23.45 | darth_mall | you could use something like ubuntu and it will go faster |
| 00:24.19 | darth_mall | I've also very successfully run Debian on it |
| 00:24.26 | darth_mall | it's just that Debian and me don't get along too well ;) |
| 00:24.55 | gonkulator | heh |
| 00:25.37 | darth_mall | the normal 4-cell that comes with it only gives about an hour and 20 mins |
| 00:25.57 | darth_mall | but purple_cow's 8-cell battery gives him like 6 or 7 hours, I think |
| 00:27.16 | gonkulator | nod |
| 00:27.25 | gonkulator | this is (sadly) going to be for taking notes and thats pretty much it |
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| 00:27.48 | gonkulator | mebbe I shouldn't spend as much and get a cheap-o laptop |
| 00:28.28 | darth_mall | crap, I know of a great website for getting older computers |
| 00:28.31 | darth_mall | and now I can't remember the url |
| 00:28.59 | CIA-5 | galago: 03chipx86 * r1700 10libgalago-gtk/ (ChangeLog libgalago-gtk/galago-gtk-contact-chooser.h): |
| 00:28.59 | CIA-5 | galago: - Removed GALAGO_GTK_IS_CONTACT_CHOOSER_IFACE. |
| 00:28.59 | CIA-5 | galago: - Fixed the macro for GALAGO_GTK_CONTACT_CHOOSER_GET_IFACE. |
| 00:29.07 | darth_mall | gonkulator: the thing is, if you want good battery life you'll probably want a Pentium M |
| 00:29.14 | darth_mall | which will mean a newer laptop |
| 00:29.25 | file[mac] | yummy Pentium M |
| 00:30.00 | ChipX86 | yay, that fixed that problem |
| 00:31.35 | gonkulator | darth_mall: gotcha |
| 00:32.01 | file[mac] | gonkulator: did you know that you are VERY silly? |
| 00:32.08 | gonkulator | yeah |
| 00:32.22 | file[mac] | excellent |
| 00:32.47 | file[mac] | time to see if my asterisk builds on OSX |
| 00:34.21 | gonkulator | they make it easy, almost as easy as Apple does |
| 00:34.58 | darth_mall | gonkulator: I would definitely recommend finding something you like and not settling for something because it's cheaper and you think you can make do |
| 00:35.21 | darth_mall | and then invest the time to set it up the way you want, with whatever it is you want on it |
| 00:35.21 | gonkulator | for sure |
| 00:35.45 | gonkulator | yeah, I am not going to throw money away by buying something cheap |
| 00:38.21 | gonkulator | the problem is... despite the history, Apple has all the features I want, and at the best price |
| 00:38.26 | gonkulator | at least, so far as I have found |
| 00:38.34 | purple_cow | lurgy: it's neither dnotify nor squashfs ;) |
| 00:38.57 | purple_cow | fam on navi is polling, because we're on 2.4, and squashfs is a compressed filesystem for flash disks |
| 00:39.07 | lurgy | ok |
| 00:39.33 | darth_mall | gonkulator: what are you looking at from Apple? |
| 00:39.43 | gonkulator | the 12" iBook :( |
| 00:39.44 | purple_cow | at this point the only reliable way to get it to update it's directory listing is to restart the daemon |
| 00:40.12 | lurgy | yeah |
| 00:40.40 | purple_cow | hmm |
| 00:41.54 | pagefault | god damnit |
| 00:42.08 | pagefault | stupid crappy relgious discussions |
| 00:42.23 | darth_mall | you know, you could ask me to do it, instead of saying I want to do it |
| 00:42.37 | purple_cow | care to wash out the rice cooker gizmos? |
| 00:42.47 | pagefault | RICE |
| 00:42.49 | gonkulator | pagefault: whats this? |
| 00:43.05 | gonkulator | pagefault: I am good at those religious dicussion things |
| 00:43.08 | pagefault | gonkulator, my step dad is pissed off because I basically told him I find the whole notion of christianity sickening |
| 00:43.25 | darth_mall | one sec |
| 00:43.50 | pagefault | gonkulator, and I tried to use science with him but apparently science is invalid when it comes to the bible |
| 00:44.36 | pagefault | he refuses to believe that we didn't evolve from apes |
| 00:44.39 | darth_mall | uhoh... |
| 00:44.48 | ChipX86 | yep |
| 00:45.05 | pagefault | yeah well I told him too bad you can't make me change my beliefs |
| 00:45.33 | purple_cow | thanks darth_mall :) |
| 00:45.39 | pagefault | it all started because I said all those stupid telethons about jesus and stuff |
| 00:45.43 | pagefault | are just ploys to get money |
| 00:45.47 | pagefault | which they are |
| 00:52.11 | CIA-5 | galago: 03chipx86 * r1701 10libgalago-gtk/ (4 files in 2 dirs): Fixed the signals for the three new list widgets. |
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| 00:54.49 | CIA-5 | galago: 03chipx86 * r1702 10galago-gtk-sharp/ (5 files in 3 dirs): |
| 00:54.49 | CIA-5 | galago: - Made the decision of whether to use a release tarball or SVN a bit more intelligent. |
| 00:54.49 | CIA-5 | galago: - Updated for libgalago-gtk SVN, to use the new widgets. |
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| 01:18.13 | ChipX86 | oh |
| 01:21.31 | CIA-5 | galago: 03chipx86 * r1703 10galago-gtk-sharp/ (6 files in 3 dirs): |
| 01:21.31 | CIA-5 | galago: - Add a working custom constructor for ContactChooserDialog. |
| 01:21.31 | CIA-5 | galago: - Hide the private structures. |
| 01:21.31 | CIA-5 | galago: - Add a test app for the chooser. |
| 01:27.08 | purple_cow | ooh |
| 01:27.10 | purple_cow | hurray white wave |
| 01:27.36 | purple_cow | these new packages of grilled tofu make cooking tasty dinners really fast :) |
| 01:29.27 | purple_cow | hehe |
| 01:29.52 | ChipX86 | I want my tablet to work in gimp :( |
| 01:30.36 | pagefault | silly file and his mac shareware |
| 01:37.45 | lurgy | :) |
| 01:38.01 | file[laptop] | I like my Mac. |
| 01:41.27 | gonkulator | file[laptop]: what upgrades did you get for it? |
| 01:41.37 | gonkulator | or is it the base stock model? |
| 01:41.46 | file[laptop] | it's the base stock model |
| 01:41.50 | file[laptop] | soon getting 1GB of RAM |
| 01:42.52 | gonkulator | nod, you need at least that for OS X |
| 01:43.07 | ChipX86 | so far, so good.. 2.6.11.7 works, got upgraded wireless drivers.. |
| 01:50.08 | file[laptop] | no leaving! |
| 01:50.19 | gonkulator | heh |
| 01:50.21 | gonkulator | no dice |
| 01:50.37 | file[laptop] | gah |
| 01:51.30 | merlin262 | bah, humbug |
| 01:51.46 | merlin262 | gonkulator, leaving us again? :( |
| 01:52.06 | merlin262 | gonkulator, you need to come to Dallas again |
| 01:56.26 | pagefault | file[laptop], are you going to shell out for tiger |
| 01:57.07 | file[laptop] | a client is buying me a copy |
| 01:57.23 | pagefault | spiffy |
| 01:57.33 | file[laptop] | along with RAM for my Mac and Dell |
| 01:57.42 | pagefault | they should buy me something too |
| 01:59.16 | file[laptop] | nah |
| 01:59.32 | file[laptop] | but if I go through Toronto again I'll get you a veal on a bun :p |
| 02:00.00 | pagefault | ooh |
| 02:00.03 | pagefault | you are obsessed about that |
| 02:00.11 | file[laptop] | yes cause I hate veal |
| 02:00.23 | pagefault | it's just beef! |
| 02:00.31 | file[laptop] | a likely story |
| 02:01.39 | pagefault | simpsons detected |
| 02:01.47 | file[laptop] | 40? |
| 02:01.50 | file[laptop] | er Teletoon? |
| 02:01.55 | pagefault | on FOX 29 |
| 02:01.58 | file[laptop] | ah |
| 02:02.03 | file[laptop] | Futurama on Teletoon! |
| 02:02.12 | pagefault | ooh |
| 02:02.13 | pagefault | even better |
| 02:02.23 | pagefault | it's the egg salad one! |
| 02:02.26 | file[laptop] | yup |
| 02:07.11 | pagefault | NO CATCH |
| 02:10.54 | pagefault | ice cream soup! |
| 02:11.54 | pagefault | we may be borrowing your avi writer from fyre and using it in zsnes :) |
| 02:11.56 | pagefault | I hope thats ok |
| 02:12.15 | purple_cow | eek |
| 02:12.28 | pagefault | need a small portable avi writer |
| 02:12.33 | pagefault | and the one in fyre meets the criteria |
| 02:12.59 | purple_cow | i mean, fyre's avi writer is nicer than most |
| 02:13.01 | purple_cow | but still... |
| 02:13.14 | pagefault | it's so you will be able to convert your ZMV files to AVI's |
| 02:13.17 | pagefault | and show them to your friends! |
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| 02:21.21 | ChipX86 | huh. mcs is failing in an odd way |
| 02:21.33 | ChipX86 | where odd is defined as "it's failing and I can't see where, why, or how" |
| 02:21.43 | ChipX86 | or any message that it's failing |
| 02:48.29 | darth_mall | purple_cow: thanks for cleaning that pan ^^ |
| 03:07.43 | purple_cow | rofl |
| 03:07.44 | purple_cow | http://dev.gentoo.org/~lewk/img/vim.gif |
| 03:08.35 | ChipX86 | haha |
| 03:09.59 | darth_mall | purple_cow: rofl |
| 03:10.47 | kergoth | hahaha |
| 03:12.42 | darth_mall | these things need to cook faster, I'm hungry |
| 03:25.41 | ChipX86 | stupid libgdiplus |
| 03:26.28 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r7891 10fyre/src/Plugins/Basic/Equation.cs: whoops |
| 03:42.40 | darth_mall | mmmm... dinner |
| 03:43.33 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r7892 10fyre/TODO: add a note about who to get mad at re: crcs |
| 03:43.58 | darth_mall | lol |
| 03:47.18 | darth_mall | hmm... this turkey burger is actually quite tasty |
| 03:47.22 | darth_mall | more so than I would have imagined |
| 04:17.13 | purple_cow | uh oh |
| 04:17.17 | purple_cow | sounds like darth_mall is watching lasto exiru |
| 04:17.45 | darth_mall | heh... that's an interesting spelling =D |
| 04:18.12 | purple_cow | s/interesting/phonetic/ |
| 04:19.56 | purple_cow | guh, so bored... |
| 04:20.44 | kergoth | bored and depressed and feel crappy |
| 04:35.40 | ChipX86 | the kernel upgrade broke my sound |
| 04:37.05 | purple_cow | grr |
| 04:37.21 | purple_cow | they need to finish tvripping the latest dr who |
| 04:39.11 | kergoth | heh, what channel is that on? |
| 04:39.31 | purple_cow | BBC3 i think |
| 04:40.00 | purple_cow | i don't know of any stations in the states that are showing it |
| 04:40.00 | kergoth | heh |
| 04:40.05 | kergoth | purple_cow: that sucks. |
| 04:40.18 | purple_cow | we don't use real TV anyways |
| 04:40.25 | purple_cow | and there are generally torrents up a few hours after a show |
| 04:40.29 | kergoth | nod |
| 04:40.39 | kergoth | whats a good torrents site for that? |
| 04:40.46 | kergoth | i havent messed with torrents since suprnova |
| 04:41.15 | purple_cow | i use mininova.org for most stuff, but tvtorrents.com often has new shows sooner |
| 04:41.35 | darth_mall | you silly people and your torrents |
| 04:42.18 | purple_cow | you'd prefer i don't use them and just wait for the dvd release of who? |
| 04:44.40 | darth_mall | I demand instant gratification of my need for Dr. Who! |
| 04:45.24 | purple_cow | watched ep 3 yet? |
| 04:51.26 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r7893 10fyre/data/pipeline-editor.glade: turn "keep drawing organized" on by default |
| 04:52.48 | nullpuppy | oooh, have ep 4 yet? |
| 04:53.05 | purple_cow | no |
| 04:53.14 | nullpuppy | damn :( torrent yet? |
| 04:53.14 | purple_cow | impatiently waiting for a torrent to show up |
| 04:53.25 | nullpuppy | lemme know when it pops up |
| 04:53.30 | purple_cow | will do |
| 04:53.43 | nullpuppy | thankie |
| 04:53.43 | purple_cow | i've been itching for this one since the preview on last week's ep |
| 04:53.52 | nullpuppy | hehe |
| 04:54.41 | kergoth | yay for $30 in random donations from oz/oe folks today |
| 04:56.47 | nullpuppy | yay |
| 04:58.44 | nullpuppy | hmm, i should grab that |
| 04:59.23 | nullpuppy | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:59.36 | kergoth | yep |
| 04:59.53 | kergoth | what song is their current single? i cant remember the name |
| 05:00.01 | nullpuppy | i don't know |
| 05:00.05 | kergoth | hmm |
| 05:00.07 | nullpuppy | -l 300? |
| 05:00.14 | nullpuppy | or want me to throttle lower? |
| 05:00.37 | kergoth | thats fine |
| 05:00.40 | nullpuppy | k |
| 05:01.11 | kergoth | apparently i've downloaded over 19 gigs from ubernet to date |
| 05:01.13 | kergoth | and uploaded over 20 |
| 05:01.14 | kergoth | :) |
| 05:01.16 | nullpuppy | :) |
| 05:01.20 | nullpuppy | cool |
| 05:01.47 | kergoth | wow, on ubermovie i've downloaed 40 gigs |
| 05:01.50 | kergoth | and uploaded _78.77_ |
| 05:01.52 | kergoth | hehe |
| 05:03.03 | nullpuppy | wow |
| 05:03.34 | purple_cow | if you're looking to increase that number, i'd love to have the rest of the matmos & lamb discographies :) |
| 05:03.35 | nullpuppy | hey.. does ubermovie have like.. tvshow dvd rips too? or is it just movies? |
| 05:03.54 | kergoth | tv shows too, and concerts |
| 05:04.00 | nullpuppy | sweet |
| 05:04.04 | kergoth | basically any quality produced dvd, just not burned stuff |
| 05:04.09 | nullpuppy | ok |
| 05:04.23 | nullpuppy | want to add the pretender to your list of stuff to look for? :) |
| 05:04.28 | kergoth | its still pretty new though, so its probably missing lots yet |
| 05:04.32 | nullpuppy | yeah |
| 05:04.37 | kergoth | only 6 terabytes on the network |
| 05:04.42 | kergoth | but that doesnt account for duplication, which there's a lot of |
| 05:04.45 | kergoth | :) |
| 05:04.54 | nullpuppy | hehe |
| 05:04.57 | kergoth | pretender's a great show |
| 05:04.57 | nullpuppy | damn |
| 05:05.00 | nullpuppy | yeah |
| 05:05.04 | nullpuppy | season 1 is out on dvd |
| 05:05.11 | kergoth | nice |
| 05:05.20 | kergoth | i have a _lot_ of ripping to do |
| 05:05.24 | nullpuppy | hehe |
| 05:05.24 | kergoth | i've only done like 20 dvds |
| 05:05.28 | nullpuppy | yeah |
| 05:05.42 | nullpuppy | hmm, if you can find john doe that might be cool too |
| 05:05.44 | kergoth | unfortunately i'm running out of disk space |
| 05:05.50 | kergoth | my 200gb in the spc is about full |
| 05:05.51 | kergoth | :\ |
| 05:05.52 | nullpuppy | :( |
| 05:05.54 | nullpuppy | hehe |
| 05:06.20 | kergoth | huh.. i have 5 dvds ripped sitting there in vob format |
| 05:06.25 | kergoth | i forgot to queue them up for encoding |
| 05:06.26 | kergoth | :) |
| 05:06.27 | kergoth | hehe |
| 05:06.56 | nullpuppy | haha |
| 05:07.01 | kergoth | err that was only one directory |
| 05:07.02 | nullpuppy | that might free up a tad bit of room :) |
| 05:07.03 | kergoth | make that 9 dvds |
| 05:07.04 | kergoth | :) |
| 05:07.11 | kergoth | 44 gigs |
| 05:07.12 | nullpuppy | lol |
| 05:07.13 | kergoth | hehe |
| 05:09.13 | nullpuppy | damn AH... |
| 05:09.24 | nullpuppy | 10g buyout for mech squirrel plans |
| 05:09.34 | kergoth | eep |
| 05:09.53 | nullpuppy | well.. theres 2... the cheap one is 10g... |
| 05:09.57 | nullpuppy | the other is 50 |
| 05:10.00 | kergoth | wow |
| 05:10.13 | nullpuppy | bids at 2g and 30g respectively :( |
| 05:10.20 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r7894 10fyre/src/PipelineDrawing.cs: fiddle with comments a bit |
| 05:10.29 | kergoth | i broke 6g earlier |
| 05:10.32 | kergoth | then bought a dagger for over 2 |
| 05:10.36 | kergoth | ;\ |
| 05:10.36 | kergoth | heh |
| 05:10.44 | nullpuppy | hehe |
| 05:11.10 | kergoth | you should play some. my warrior is up from 17 to 19 now. rogue is at 27 |
| 05:11.20 | nullpuppy | hahah |
| 05:11.20 | kergoth | i think chip's coding though |
| 05:11.36 | nullpuppy | i'm playing my other mage, gonna play with a couple local friends if they ever show up ... :) |
| 05:11.44 | kergoth | ahh thats cool |
| 05:11.56 | kergoth | i should play the warrior some, he's neglected |
| 05:12.04 | nullpuppy | hehe |
| 05:12.11 | kergoth | less fun to play though. |
| 05:12.13 | nullpuppy | or.. create an alliance char on blackrock :) |
| 05:12.18 | kergoth | maybe i should try a mage |
| 05:12.26 | kergoth | hm, alliance |
| 05:12.43 | kergoth | i've never been human or night elf, and i didnt play dwarf and gnome much |
| 05:12.44 | kergoth | heh |
| 05:13.46 | kergoth | i was talking about the advantage of the shaman with a friend the other day, and he goes "yeah, and they'll kick your ass in PVP. but they're EVVVIIIILLLLLLL!" to which i respond "so?" |
| 05:13.47 | kergoth | :) |
| 05:14.25 | nullpuppy | :) |
| 05:24.21 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r7895 10fyre/src/PipelineEditor.cs: pop up an ErrorDialog if we can't load the file |
| 05:28.08 | purple_cow | mmm. yay pleasant smells |
| 05:43.14 | darth_mall | pooty |
| 05:44.53 | darth_mall | this coffee tastes funny |
| 05:46.38 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r7896 10fyre/src/PipelineEditor.cs: add a fixme |
| 05:47.31 | darth_mall | FIX! |
| 05:55.45 | darth_mall | gazebo |
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| 06:12.57 | darth_mall | the new Dr Who is definitely cool |
| 06:13.30 | darth_mall | also, Last Exile rocks =D |
| 06:13.55 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r7897 10fyre/src/ (Element.cs Pipeline.cs): deserialize Element's members |
| 06:16.12 | lurgy | narf! |
| 06:16.20 | purple_cow | hi lurgy |
| 06:17.09 | lurgy | howdy |
| 06:21.52 | purple_cow | hehe |
| 06:22.01 | purple_cow | yay for some random music student somewhere recording video game music |
| 06:22.59 | purple_cow | he's not bad |
| 06:26.38 | laodamas | lurgy: photos of your party are up at http://www.kersplody.com/albums/Events/Dan's%2021st%202005/index.html |
| 06:27.28 | purple_cow | i like how they're in no particular order |
| 06:28.09 | laodamas | purple_cow: except for the first one, they're in order |
| 06:28.22 | purple_cow | http://www.kersplody.com/albums/Events/Dan's%2021st%202005/slides/IMG_2038.html <-- good photo :) |
| 06:29.22 | purple_cow | wowie |
| 06:29.30 | purple_cow | quite a halo on that mustard |
| 06:30.49 | laodamas | purple_cow: my camera did some funny things last night |
| 06:31.15 | laodamas | I probably should have lowered the exposure time for everything |
| 06:31.53 | purple_cow | yeah |
| 06:31.58 | purple_cow | all the bright colors have halos |
| 06:33.55 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r7898 10fyre/src/Pipeline.cs: add some FIXME comments, remove some debug output |
| 06:34.33 | purple_cow | pretty crummy jpeg artifacts too... |
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| 06:35.44 | laodamas | that's to reduce the photo sizes to around ~60k |
| 06:36.43 | purple_cow | laodamas: can i get copies of the full-res ones? |
| 06:37.42 | laodamas | purple_cow: yep, in a few minutes |
| 06:41.46 | lurgy | uh oh, copies |
| 06:41.50 | lurgy | these could end up on navi |
| 06:42.17 | lurgy | slimspace: so, odds look good that we have someone for next year now |
| 06:42.22 | lurgy | i'll know for sure monday |
| 06:42.24 | purple_cow | they'll probably make their way into navi's gallery, but for the moment i'm playing with f-spot |
| 06:42.33 | slimspace | lurgy: awesome. Anyone I know? |
| 06:42.44 | lurgy | slimspace: nope, bassoon-playing music person |
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| 06:42.54 | slimspace | ah. Can't be all bad then :) |
| 06:42.59 | lurgy | :) |
| 06:43.24 | purple_cow | yay |
| 06:43.27 | purple_cow | nullpuppy: http://mininova.org/get/30472/doctor_who_2005.1x04.aliens_of_london.ws_pdtv_xvid-fov.%5BBT%5D.torrent |
| 06:43.35 | lurgy | figures that a music student would be so attracted by a low rent ;) |
| 06:43.38 | slimspace | lurgy: it's looking like I might have found someone to replace me in my apartment too |
| 06:43.43 | slimspace | hehe |
| 06:43.44 | lurgy | yay |
| 06:43.44 | purple_cow | wowie. 4935 seeds |
| 06:43.48 | lurgy | slimspace: anyone i know? |
| 06:44.02 | slimspace | doubtful. I don't even know him. Rent.com offer |
| 06:44.44 | lurgy | ah |
| 06:44.46 | lurgy | hehe |
| 06:44.48 | lurgy | http://colorado.thefacebook.com/profile.php?id=10203998 |
| 06:45.00 | lurgy | ^ that's our potential personguy |
| 06:45.16 | slimspace | ah. Nice shot |
| 06:45.37 | slimspace | hey, he likes jazz |
| 06:45.41 | slimspace | :D |
| 06:46.14 | lurgy | hehe |
| 06:46.15 | lurgy | yay |
| 06:46.19 | lurgy | everybody wins |
| 06:46.32 | slimspace | will he be staying over the summer, or longer? |
| 06:46.59 | lurgy | this summer? |
| 06:47.03 | slimspace | yeah |
| 06:47.09 | lurgy | naomi's here over the summer |
| 06:47.17 | slimspace | oh |
| 06:47.21 | lurgy | so, nope |
| 06:47.23 | slimspace | so this would be after that? |
| 06:47.25 | lurgy | yep |
| 06:47.32 | slimspace | ah, I get it |
| 06:47.33 | lurgy | in august |
| 06:48.44 | lurgy | :) |
| 06:48.53 | laodamas | http://www.kersplody.com/tmp/dan.tgz |
| 06:49.09 | lurgy | cuz if he is, he should restart the daemon |
| 06:49.23 | slimspace | what daemon? Maybe purple_cow can |
| 06:49.24 | lurgy | so that we can get to all the new bartok :) |
| 06:49.43 | lurgy | apparently scanline gets cranky when purple_cow h4x0rz his screen |
| 06:50.39 | slimspace | ah |
| 06:50.56 | purple_cow | he's not around, for some reason |
| 06:51.19 | slimspace | hmm...wonder if I should try to grab all the stuff off navi for golem... |
| 06:51.32 | lurgy | yay h4x0rz |
| 06:51.40 | lurgy | slimspace: all the media? |
| 06:51.45 | slimspace | yeah |
| 06:51.53 | slimspace | might need a few more drives though... |
| 06:52.08 | lurgy | nod |
| 06:55.52 | slimspace | hmm... |
| 06:56.07 | slimspace | if I make golem the new media computer, I'll need to set up another desktop computer for myself... |
| 06:57.04 | purple_cow | some charming people outside... |
| 07:00.32 | lurgy | heh |
| 07:03.11 | nullpuppy | purple_cow: sweet, thanks |
| 07:03.45 | laodamas | purple_cow: originals of last night at http://www.kersplody.com/tmp/dan.tgz |
| 07:03.55 | purple_cow | for such a mind-boggling number of seeds, it's going pretty slow :( |
| 07:04.01 | purple_cow | laodamas: already snagged it, thanks |
| 07:04.20 | laodamas | k |
| 07:06.12 | purple_cow | sooo, scanline. |
| 07:06.13 | scanline | purple_cow: start your own damn spreadfs daemon, stop fucking around with my screen |
| 07:06.19 | scanline | really, that's abusing root privileges |
| 07:06.32 | purple_cow | :P |
| 07:06.36 | scanline | I'm serious |
| 07:06.40 | scanline | this really makes me mad |
| 07:06.47 | purple_cow | are you planning on helping out with this fyre thing at all? i can deal with "no" but i can't deal with "later" any longer |
| 07:06.57 | scanline | whatever |
| 07:07.28 | purple_cow | yes or no |
| 07:07.30 | scanline | I already told you that I want to help, but I'm really not going to have time until later |
| 07:07.35 | scanline | so take that as you want it |
| 07:07.45 | purple_cow | when is "later"? a few days ago "later" was after yesterday |
| 07:08.03 | scanline | yesterday turned into monday, since I didn't quite finish them |
| 07:08.09 | scanline | and I have documentation piles due wednesday |
| 07:08.23 | scanline | so if you want it soon, no, I'm not helping |
| 07:08.47 | purple_cow | ok, so wednesday. will wednesday turn into "not before the end of the semester" ? |
| 07:09.01 | scanline | I have no idea, but hopefully not :P |
| 07:09.13 | scanline | if you can't tell, OOP class isn't exactly a high priority for me |
| 07:09.14 | purple_cow | the thing is that we've put off big things for a long time already. i really need to know if i can afford to put them off further |
| 07:09.22 | scanline | so do whatever you want to give yourselves good grades and screw me over |
| 07:09.25 | purple_cow | i know, i just need a damned commitment to *something* |
| 07:10.05 | purple_cow | if that commitment is to not doing anything, i'm ok with that, so long as i know one way or the other |
| 07:10.20 | purple_cow | because if you're going to jump in, i'd be happy to leave some of the problems you're familiar with unsolved |
| 07:10.21 | scanline | well, you could just assume I'm not doing anything until I say otherwise |
| 07:10.34 | scanline | you really have to learn to deal with group members that suck, before you start senior projects ;) |
| 07:10.49 | purple_cow | i know how to deal with that, i just didn't expect it from this crowd :( |
| 07:10.54 | scanline | heh |
| 07:11.15 | scanline | you are going to have to have something fancier than Fyre 2 to motivate me to care about OOP class |
| 07:11.22 | purple_cow | if i had chosen a random group i'd have finished most of it on my own by now :P |
| 07:12.23 | scanline | I should really just quit IRC and take away your screen h4x0ring privileges so you have to use real communication methods, like email, or talking to me in person |
| 07:12.36 | purple_cow | scanline: if you stop the fucking daemon, i'll start it :P |
| 07:12.39 | scanline | hell, even AIM tends to be less annoying than getting harassed on IRC every time I get home |
| 07:12.43 | scanline | ok |
| 07:12.58 | scanline | I wasn't cranky in the slightest until I came home to this :P |
| 07:13.24 | lurgy | seems like something pretty insignificant to get all cranky about :P |
| 07:13.44 | scanline | well, I really hate it when people abuse root privileges |
| 07:14.07 | scanline | I expect the stuff I keep on my navi account to be mine, not owned by whoever feels like h4x0ring it |
| 07:14.25 | scanline | that's what made me cranky |
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| 07:14.31 | purple_cow | scanline: spreadfs /mnt/navi/* ? |
| 07:14.36 | scanline | then this OOP stuff was just a crankiness-inducing way of changing the subject |
| 07:14.38 | scanline | purple_cow: yes |
| 07:15.04 | lurgy | if you say so |
| 07:15.12 | scanline | mostly I'm just really pissed off that you *repeatedly* used my screen session after I told you not to |
| 07:15.16 | scanline | that pisses me off, right? |
| 07:15.19 | scanline | I've told you this |
| 07:16.32 | purple_cow | gee, sorry, for some reason the fact that you had it running as your user and not something shared threw me off as to the nature of the proper way of restarting it :P |
| 07:17.15 | scanline | that doesn't matter |
| 07:17.38 | scanline | I wouldn't have minded if you would kill it and start your own |
| 07:17.44 | scanline | but messing with my screen bothers me |
| 07:17.45 | purple_cow | look, it's changed now, and you don't have to think about it any more |
| 07:17.54 | scanline | I'm just explaining why I was cranky |
| 07:18.12 | purple_cow | i understand why you were cranky, now drop it? |
| 07:18.15 | scanline | k |
| 07:18.49 | lurgy | :) |
| 07:20.08 | scanline | it's a privacy thing |
| 07:20.42 | scanline | I keep lots of other stuff on that same screen session |
| 07:20.50 | lurgy | just different outlooks is all |
| 07:21.32 | scanline | I mean, it's like going through my underwear drawer because you need to tighten the knob on the front or something |
| 07:21.36 | scanline | sure you may have had a reason |
| 07:21.39 | scanline | but it's just something you don't do |
| 07:22.01 | lurgy | heh |
| 07:22.04 | lurgy | i guess that's the difference |
| 07:22.18 | scanline | and I've already told purple_cow this.. he ignores me |
| 07:22.31 | scanline | so now I have to deal with an admin on navi that doesn't respect peopl |
| 07:22.35 | scanline | er, people's privacy |
| 07:24.54 | purple_cow | scanline: i'm a little confused why you have any reason to think i did anything but go to the specific window that spreadfs was running on |
| 07:25.23 | purple_cow | and i'm also a little confused why we're still talking about this |
| 07:25.24 | purple_cow | but oh well |
| 07:25.26 | scanline | purple_cow: heh, you can reconnect immediately to some window? still, that's beside the point. It's *my* screen session |
| 07:26.11 | lurgy | scanline: that just sounds more like territoriality rather than privacy ;) |
| 07:26.41 | scanline | lurgy: I'm just saying, I might have had something other than spreadfs on that screen, like email or whatever |
| 07:27.00 | purple_cow | it's disappointing that you don't trust me after living with me this long :( |
| 07:27.20 | scanline | I don't trust you when you do crap like this |
| 07:27.38 | purple_cow | bah |
| 07:27.42 | scanline | even after living with you for two years, there's a lot about me you don't know and probably never will know |
| 07:46.24 | purple_cow | blah |
| 07:51.31 | slimspace | lurgy: If I ever get like that about root screen sessions, do me a favor and smack me |
| 07:52.06 | purple_cow | it wasn't a root screen session, it was running as his user, but it really seems like he's had something up his butt for a while :P |
| 07:52.20 | slimspace | yeah...I've noticed that |
| 07:53.31 | slimspace | well, wrt fyre, I plan on really cracking down on some work after this week is up, when I'll have lots of time to devote to it |
| 07:54.08 | purple_cow | after which week? |
| 07:54.14 | CIA-5 | spacegrant: 03dowty * r1201 10devices/speck/protel/ (acquisition-board.PcbDoc acquisition-board.SchDoc): |
| 07:54.14 | CIA-5 | spacegrant: Hmm, I should probably commit the work I did on this today, now that I have an |
| 07:54.14 | CIA-5 | spacegrant: internet connection, before I completely zonk out... I think everything is |
| 07:54.14 | CIA-5 | spacegrant: placed and routed other than power and grounds, but this needs checking over. |
| 07:54.19 | slimspace | this coming week. Actually, after Thursday I should have time |
| 07:54.43 | purple_cow | cool |
| 07:55.04 | purple_cow | i actually think a lot of the serialization/deserialization infrastructure is in place now |
| 07:55.11 | purple_cow | mostly we just need more stuff to serialize :) |
| 07:55.21 | slimspace | Serialization is, from what I worked on. I didn't do anything with deserialization yet |
| 07:55.36 | purple_cow | i've poked at deserialization a bit over the last couple days |
| 07:55.48 | slimspace | and there's still some things I need to work out with the multiple-document stuff I added. |
| 07:55.51 | slimspace | ah |
| 07:56.15 | purple_cow | hopefully darth_mall can get some of the drawing stuff working in the next couple days |
| 07:57.52 | purple_cow | i think as far as actual functionality just putting elements on the canvas (not even moving them around) and connecting them is enough |
| 07:58.03 | purple_cow | since i'm guessing documentation is going to be more important |
| 07:58.08 | slimspace | definitely enough for demonstration purposes |
| 07:58.37 | slimspace | well, that should be a snap, once we're done with all this |
| 07:58.46 | purple_cow | sortof :P |
| 07:58.52 | purple_cow | i think use cases are gonna suck |
| 07:58.55 | slimspace | well, more so than starting with that |
| 07:59.36 | slimspace | maybe...I think we'll need to make the use cases really specific to be useful... |
| 08:00.26 | slimspace | Not a whole lot to it though...User creates a new document, system presents the interface, user adds elements, system draws elements, user saves pipeline, system writes file |
| 08:01.44 | slimspace | couldn't hurt |
| 08:06.08 | purple_cow | actually, maybe i'll suggest a different kind of use case |
| 08:06.16 | purple_cow | a handful of pipelines drawn out on paper :) |
| 08:06.17 | slimspace | hmm? |
| 08:06.27 | slimspace | ah |
| 08:06.40 | slimspace | example-based use cases |
| 08:06.45 | purple_cow | exactly |
| 08:06.55 | purple_cow | come up with a few canonical examples |
| 08:06.59 | slimspace | that would be a whole lot more useful |
| 08:08.02 | ChipX86 | 4.5 hours on the phone |
| 08:08.06 | ChipX86 | arm's cramped again |
| 08:08.18 | slimspace | wow, long call |
| 08:08.27 | ChipX86 | not as long as yesterday's 5 hours 15 mins |
| 08:08.33 | slimspace | geez! |
| 08:16.44 | purple_cow | hopefully we'll get a response soon |
| 08:19.41 | purple_cow | a really silly design method |
| 08:20.05 | slimspace | have you been going to them? |
| 08:20.41 | purple_cow | nope |
| 08:20.44 | purple_cow | just reading the slides |
| 08:20.49 | slimspace | ah |
| 08:22.10 | purple_cow | afaict it's saying you should spend most of your time on the part of the software that models the domain, since it's more important than things like UI |
| 08:22.18 | purple_cow | (never mind that UI often presents much harder problems) |
| 08:22.47 | slimspace | I wonder if that's what explains why UIs suck so frequently |
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| 08:23.50 | purple_cow | it probably explains it a little, but i think mostly the problem is that programmers think about UIs like programmers and not like users |
| 08:24.16 | slimspace | that makes sense |
| 08:26.19 | purple_cow | and there's really no excuse for it |
| 08:26.45 | purple_cow | it's not hard to learn the basic principles of interaction design |
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| 08:52.19 | purple_cow | hrm |
| 08:52.22 | purple_cow | why am i not asleep? |
| 08:52.49 | slimspace | I ask myself that every day |
| 08:52.55 | laodamas | purple_cow: because you still have a computer in front of you |
| 08:53.29 | purple_cow | laodamas: no, that's a result of me being awake, but not the cause |
| 08:54.11 | laodamas | pff,causality |
| 09:04.23 | CIA-5 | galago: 03chipx86 * r1704 10libgalago/ (5 files in 2 dirs): Added galago_core_set_exit_with_daemon(), which exits the application when galago-daemon disconnects, and galago_core_get_exit_with_daemon(). |
| 09:10.30 | CIA-5 | galago: 03chipx86 * r1705 10galago-sharp/ (ChangeLog NEWS configure.ac galago/Core.cs): |
| 09:10.30 | CIA-5 | galago: - Added Core.ExitWithDaemon, which sets whether to exit the application when galago-daemon disconnects. |
| 09:10.30 | CIA-5 | galago: - Bump to version 0.3.0.90. |
| 09:15.22 | CIA-5 | galago: 03chipx86 * r1706 10eds-feed/ (ChangeLog NEWS configure.ac src/main.c): eds-feed now exits when galago-daemon exits, preventing several copies of eds-feed from hanging around after crashes or restarts. |
| 13:40.45 | samyb | Yay. |
| 13:40.51 | samyb | I am going to George Washington University. |
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| 16:18.25 | nullpuppy | dammit, /me needs next ep of dr who now :( |
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| 17:13.49 | nullpuppy | yay |
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| 17:44.53 | Laser_Dolphin | Hellos |
| 17:45.22 | Laser_Dolphin | What's the current directory I can upload music to on Navi? |
| 17:45.57 | lurgy | good question |
| 17:46.06 | file[laptop] | lurgyness! |
| 17:46.17 | Laser_Dolphin | Hiya lurgy |
| 17:46.26 | Laser_Dolphin | lurgy: did you have a wicked hangover yesterday>? |
| 17:46.35 | darth_mall | Laser_Dolphin: put it in /tmp |
| 17:46.44 | darth_mall | there's probably still a /tmp/audio-incoming or something |
| 17:47.09 | lurgy | Laser_Dolphin: nope, surprisingly |
| 17:47.13 | lurgy | Laser_Dolphin: not even after 10 shots.. |
| 17:47.21 | lurgy | well, 9 shots and a beer |
| 17:47.31 | Laser_Dolphin | Ahhh, I just found that directory too |
| 17:47.40 | Laser_Dolphin | Good job lurgy |
| 17:48.30 | Laser_Dolphin | darth_mall: What were the file names you wanted me to fix? |
| 17:48.47 | Laser_Dolphin | darth_mall: was it Anne McAffery stuff? |
| 17:49.13 | darth_mall | there wasn't anything in particular |
| 17:49.32 | darth_mall | I just didn't want you dumping hundreds of files with crappy names in incoming from books on tape |
| 17:49.40 | Laser_Dolphin | OK |
| 17:49.53 | CIA-5 | spacegrant: 03dowty * r1202 10devices/speck/protel/acquisition-board.PcbDoc: Whew. Aside from the digital and analog ground planes, this thing is fully routed and passes DRC. |
| 17:49.56 | Laser_Dolphin | I'm fixing the Anne_Mcaffery ones though |
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| 18:10.53 | Laser_Dolphin | Gosh darn this astronomy lab is boring |
| 18:11.39 | file[laptop] | yay pagefault |
| 18:11.44 | pagefault | greetings |
| 18:11.48 | file[laptop] | hi |
| 18:11.56 | Laser_Dolphin | Hiya pagefault |
| 18:12.12 | pagefault | hello |
| 18:12.21 | pagefault | just got up |
| 18:12.22 | pagefault | slept too long |
| 18:13.42 | Laser_Dolphin | It's such a nice day outside. Why haven't we gotten a page this weekend? I need something to do (that's not my astronomy lab ^_^) |
| 18:13.48 | file[laptop] | you can never sleep too long |
| 18:17.41 | darth_mall | grrrrrrrrrr |
| 18:17.46 | purple_cow | ooh, lovely, japan is getting all nationalistic again |
| 18:21.03 | darth_mall | purple_cow: do I need to upgrade or install something else to get to Gtk.DotNet? |
| 18:21.41 | darth_mall | oh wait... |
| 18:22.10 | darth_mall | dammit |
| 18:22.18 | purple_cow | ? |
| 18:24.25 | darth_mall | when I try and get a Graphics object from Gtk.DotNet I get an error during compilation, it says it can't find Gtk.DotNet.Graphics.FromDrawable |
| 18:25.41 | purple_cow | huh |
| 18:26.37 | purple_cow | ahh |
| 18:26.58 | purple_cow | looks like you need to add in the gtk-dotnet assembly |
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| 18:27.10 | darth_mall | do wha? |
| 18:27.18 | darth_mall | is that a change in the Makefile? |
| 18:27.43 | purple_cow | lemme 7up and i'll guide you through it |
| 18:27.57 | darth_mall | ok, I haven't committed this yet |
| 18:28.04 | darth_mall | in case that's what you're 7up'ing for |
| 18:28.14 | purple_cow | ok, there's a pkgconfig file for it - gtk-dotnet-2.0 |
| 18:28.19 | purple_cow | darth_mall: naw, just out of date tree on bhaskara |
| 18:28.23 | darth_mall | ok |
| 18:28.55 | purple_cow | hmm, looks like you can probably just add gtk-dotnet-2.0 to the pkgconfig line in configure.ac |
| 18:29.01 | darth_mall | ok |
| 18:34.19 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03evan * r7899 10fyre/ (configure.ac src/PipelineEditor.cs): Include gtk-dotnet-2.0, set up a call to Draw() when we get a drop event. |
| 18:42.56 | darth_mall | dammit |
| 18:43.14 | darth_mall | I'd swear I came across something in System.Drawing yesterday for getting the width and height of a string in pixels |
| 18:46.58 | purple_cow | darth_mall: Graphics.MeasureString ? |
| 18:47.19 | ChipX86 | hmm |
| 18:47.26 | ChipX86 | best claims beagled isn't running |
| 18:47.33 | ChipX86 | except that it is |
| 18:48.32 | darth_mall | that's the one |
| 18:52.46 | ChipX86 | yay, beagled keeps crashing |
| 18:55.34 | ChipX86 | it's because it can't see the mail server I have set up in evolution... |
| 19:02.10 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r7900 10fyre/TODO: one down... |
| 19:08.59 | ChipX86 | better name for an IM framework: Babble or Eloquence? |
| 19:10.01 | purple_cow | ChipX86: why the hell are you starting a new IM project? |
| 19:10.18 | ChipX86 | it's not necessarily an IM project per se |
| 19:10.21 | ChipX86 | except it is |
| 19:10.32 | ChipX86 | it's a D-BUS daemon for tying together IM |
| 19:11.25 | purple_cow | ChipX86: why the hell are you starting a new IM project? |
| 19:11.41 | ChipX86 | *shrug* |
| 19:11.57 | ChipX86 | it's just going to piggy-back on gaim for the forseeable future |
| 19:12.21 | ChipX86 | largely, it's for my demo |
| 19:12.25 | ChipX86 | at SVLUG |
| 19:13.00 | ChipX86 | I want something that doesn't tie the communication to gaim's UI. I want to move away from gaim's UI |
| 19:17.26 | darth_mall | grrr... wtf |
| 19:17.48 | darth_mall | hmmm... |
| 19:18.06 | darth_mall | purple_cow: when monodoc says "To be added" does that mean that the remark is to be added, or the function is to be added? |
| 19:18.14 | ChipX86 | stupid stupid beagle |
| 19:19.10 | purple_cow | guh, they chose hank brown as the new CU president? |
| 19:19.32 | purple_cow | darth_mall: i think that means the remark is to be added |
| 19:20.43 | kergoth | blehh |
| 19:21.55 | darth_mall | that's what I thought |
| 19:22.43 | kergoth | damnit, still not done downloading the new dr who |
| 19:22.56 | ChipX86 | I need to get Dr. Who |
| 19:23.00 | kergoth | yes |
| 19:23.21 | purple_cow | that show is so very very awesome |
| 19:23.32 | ChipX86 | so I hear. I just haven't watched it yet :( |
| 19:23.42 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03evan * r7901 10fyre/src/ (CanvasElement.cs Element.cs): Added some convenience functions for getting the longest input and output pad names. This should be calculating the total height of a CanvasElement now. |
| 19:24.31 | purple_cow | mmmm |
| 19:24.34 | purple_cow | yay joy division |
| 19:24.39 | kergoth | yay indeed |
| 19:26.24 | darth_mall | that's because kergoth is made of meat |
| 19:29.17 | darth_mall | hmmmmmm |
| 19:29.53 | darth_mall | purple_cow: instead of passing a System.Drawing.Graphics object to CanvasElement.Draw, why not just store a Graphics object in the CanvasElement? |
| 19:30.28 | purple_cow | darth_mall: because it might change |
| 19:31.06 | purple_cow | i was thinking we'd just keep a back-buffer for the PipelineDrawing that was exactly the size of the visible window |
| 19:31.20 | purple_cow | so if the window resizes, the old Graphics object becomes invalidated |
| 19:31.34 | darth_mall | ok |
| 19:32.39 | darth_mall | hrm... |
| 19:34.17 | darth_mall | dammit |
| 19:36.42 | purple_cow | i'd create a static GdkPixmap inside CanvasElement |
| 19:36.47 | purple_cow | 1x1px or such |
| 19:37.09 | darth_mall | ok |
| 19:44.37 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03evan * r7902 10fyre/src/CanvasElement.cs: |
| 19:44.37 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: Just need to fix this casting a float to an int nonsense, and I think we'll |
| 19:44.37 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: have a height and width for each CanvasElement |
| 19:51.12 | ChipX86 | hmm |
| 19:51.19 | ChipX86 | what channel is Dr. Who supposed to be aired on? |
| 19:51.36 | darth_mall | yay Dr Who |
| 19:51.51 | purple_cow | ChipX86: BBC3 :) |
| 19:52.17 | ChipX86 | hrm |
| 19:53.35 | kergoth | ChipX86: what channel is joan of arcadia on, and when is it on? |
| 19:53.50 | ChipX86 | CBS on Fridays at I think 8 or 9 |
| 19:53.57 | kergoth | k |
| 19:53.59 | ChipX86 | they just threw in a new twist |
| 19:54.09 | kergoth | i havent seen the last one, just downloaded it |
| 19:54.21 | kergoth | saw the one where he cheated on her |
| 19:54.23 | ChipX86 | it's a good one |
| 19:54.23 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 19:54.25 | ChipX86 | bastard |
| 19:54.36 | purple_cow | yay christopher eccleston :D |
| 19:54.43 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03evan * r7903 10fyre/src/CanvasElement.cs: Fixed the type error. |
| 19:54.44 | purple_cow | he's got the mannerisms down so well |
| 20:01.54 | darth_mall | pooty |
| 20:02.04 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r7904 10fyre/src/ (7 files in 3 dirs): add the first round of type-checking helper functions |
| 20:03.12 | ChipX86 | meh, or not |
| 20:10.18 | CIA-5 | galago: 03chipx86 * r1707 10tundra/ (13 files in 2 dirs): Added the beginnings of Tundra, the experimental playground module for anything Galago-related. |
| 20:11.18 | CIA-5 | spacegrant: 03dowty * r1203 10devices/speck/protel/ (3 files): |
| 20:11.18 | CIA-5 | spacegrant: So close... |
| 20:11.18 | CIA-5 | spacegrant: Violation: Net SPECK_DGND is broken into 3 sub-nets. Routed To 90.00% |
| 20:11.18 | CIA-5 | spacegrant: Violation: Net SPECK_+5 is broken into 2 sub-nets. Routed To 66.67% |
| 20:13.51 | CIA-5 | galago: 03chipx86 * r1708 10tundra/ (4 files in 2 dirs): Rename ContactList to ContactListApp. |
| 20:25.55 | TD | god i love 24 |
| 20:26.03 | TD | i want to be jack bauer |
| 20:26.11 | TD | minus the heroin addiction, naturally. |
| 20:29.05 | lurgy | naturally |
| 20:31.42 | purple_cow | arg! 2-parter |
| 20:31.54 | darth_mall | oh no! |
| 20:35.12 | ChipX86 | hurray for sudden "I'm going to bake a cake" impulses |
| 20:36.35 | TD | heh |
| 20:38.15 | kergoth | i dont think i've ever had that particular impulse |
| 20:40.43 | ChipX86 | cake is good |
| 20:40.47 | ChipX86 | I haven't had it in a couple of weeks |
| 20:41.05 | ChipX86 | however, I think someone at vmware has a birthday coming up |
| 20:43.52 | TD | cake is good |
| 20:43.59 | TD | today i turned 21, and cake was involved |
| 20:44.00 | TD | lots of it :) |
| 20:44.04 | ChipX86 | ohh happy birthday! |
| 20:45.56 | darth_mall | happy b-day TD |
| 20:46.23 | lurgy | happy birthday indeed :) |
| 20:46.52 | lurgy | sounds like TD is 4 days younger than i |
| 20:49.47 | lurgy | http://navi.cx/~lurgyman/poster1.pdf |
| 20:49.49 | lurgy | there it is |
| 20:49.50 | lurgy | final version |
| 20:52.11 | darth_mall | lurgy: roflmao |
| 20:52.14 | file[laptop] | yay lurgy on slide-trombone |
| 20:53.05 | lurgy | ^_^ |
| 20:53.37 | lurgy | hehe |
| 20:53.59 | lurgy | well, they need to be given a hard time for having such difficulty staying awake at concerts |
| 20:54.04 | lurgy | :) |
| 20:59.06 | CIA-5 | spacegrant: 03dowty * r1204 10devices/speck/protel/acquisition-board.PcbDoc: Woo, slow progress... the ground planes are now fully routed, all that remains is one really annoying connection on the +5 analog supply. Blah. Incidentally, I'm pretty sure protel's polygon fill tool has a memory leak. |
| 21:01.45 | ChipX86 | hrm |
| 21:01.49 | ChipX86 | only in mono 1.1.x it claims |
| 21:02.58 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r7905 10fyre/src/ (6 files in 2 dirs): next round of type-checking changes |
| 21:03.11 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r7906 10fyre/TODO: done now |
| 21:07.11 | darth_mall | bleh |
| 21:07.20 | darth_mall | I hate these damned event reminders from work |
| 21:13.40 | CIA-5 | spacegrant: 03dowty * r1205 10devices/speck/protel/acquisition-board.PcbDoc: Hmm, somehow I've been using giganto-vias this whole time. Use the same dimensions I chose for the other PCB. |
| 21:23.15 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03evan * r7907 10fyre/src/ (Element.cs ElementList.cs): Store a default element in the treestore. |
| 21:25.50 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03evan * r7908 10fyre/src/ (11 files in 3 dirs): Get rid of calls to NewCanvasElement(). Elements no longer store a CanvasElement |
| 21:27.51 | CIA-5 | spacegrant: 03dowty * r1206 10devices/speck/protel/acquisition-board.PcbDoc: Whee. This could use some touchups, checking over, and maybe a few extra filter capacitors.. but it's now fully routed and passes DRC |
| 21:28.23 | darth_mall | hmmm |
| 21:28.39 | darth_mall | I think some of this refactoring is probably breaking slimspace's serialization code |
| 21:29.55 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03evan * r7909 10fyre/src/ (Element.cs ElementList.cs PipelineEditor.cs): |
| 21:29.55 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: Cool. Got rid of all the CanvasElement stuff from Element. It compiles, so therefore |
| 21:29.56 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: it must be without bugs! |
| 21:30.36 | slimspace | darth_mall: don't worry about the serialization. I'll fix whatever's broken. I've got some tweaking to do on it anyway |
| 21:30.56 | darth_mall | slimspace: ^^ |
| 21:31.02 | darth_mall | I wasn't worried, I knew you could handle it |
| 21:31.08 | darth_mall | just thought I'd point it out |
| 21:31.09 | slimspace | :) |
| 21:31.34 | darth_mall | you just can't serialize the CanvasElement from inside an Element now, because Elements don't store CanvasElements anymore |
| 21:31.43 | slimspace | ah |
| 21:40.40 | ChipX86 | yay cake |
| 21:40.51 | ChipX86 | boo misshappen |
| 21:41.01 | ChipX86 | if that's how you spell that at all |
| 21:43.33 | file[laptop] | ChipX86: you made cake??? |
| 21:43.51 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 21:43.58 | file[laptop] | yum |
| 21:48.02 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r7910 10fyre/src/ (11 files in 3 dirs): change the way Check() works a whole bunch. it now returns a list of it's output types, and uses an exception to indicate when there's a type failure |
| 21:50.49 | ChipX86 | file[laptop]: do me a favor? can you sign on and then off on AIM? |
| 21:53.59 | ChipX86 | shit |
| 21:54.35 | ChipX86 | fuck |
| 21:54.41 | ChipX86 | Jamie's mom is saying we can't talk anymore |
| 21:55.03 | purple_cow | ? |
| 21:55.37 | ChipX86 | (14:54:00) Jamie: well, apparently my mom's under the impression that i'm behind in school 'cause we're on the phone all the time |
| 21:55.47 | darth_mall | phones cause bad grades! |
| 21:56.12 | purple_cow | :( |
| 21:56.20 | ChipX86 | (14:55:42) Jamie: i'm being threatened once again that if i don't get good grades that she'll stop helping me pay for tuition |
| 21:56.23 | ChipX86 | (14:56:03) Jamie: it's not like im ACTUALLY going to stop talking to you, i mean, come on....... |
| 21:57.29 | ChipX86 | fucking parents |
| 21:57.47 | darth_mall | was her mom actually saying you couldn't talk, or just that she thought jamie is behind in school cuz she's not spending enough time studying? |
| 21:58.15 | ChipX86 | she said we can't talk. Knowing her mom, and how she completely overreacts to every little thing, I don't doubt that she said it |
| 22:01.05 | ChipX86 | *sigh* it'll blow over. Her mom gets really weird this way |
| 22:08.26 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r7911 10fyre/src/Pipeline.cs: add a stub for Check() here, which right now just contains my thoughts on how this algorithm is going to work |
| 22:10.02 | kergoth | ChipX86: :\ that sucks |
| 22:10.19 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r7912 10fyre/src/CanvasElement.cs: 10pt != 10px |
| 22:10.20 | ChipX86 | she acts like Jamie is 15 |
| 22:10.24 | darth_mall | grrr |
| 22:12.36 | CIA-5 | spacegrant: 03dowty * r1207 10devices/speck/ (12 files in 3 dirs): Prepare speck-acquisition rev A for manufacturing |
| 22:14.13 | ChipX86 | it amazes me how much she's like me from 2 years ago |
| 22:14.37 | ChipX86 | same worries, concerns, battles with parents, self-doubts |
| 22:17.22 | kergoth | sigh, i have a fever all of a sudden |
| 22:17.23 | kergoth | :\ |
| 22:17.25 | ChipX86 | :(( |
| 22:20.45 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r7913 10fyre/src/CanvasElement.cs: add a FIXME for a potential gotcha |
| 22:22.24 | darth_mall | grrrrrrrr |
| 22:22.33 | darth_mall | purple_cow keeps causing conflicts =P |
| 22:22.42 | purple_cow | hehe |
| 22:23.09 | ChipX86 | *sigh* poor girl.. I need to get her out here at some point |
| 22:24.15 | kergoth | methinks i should watch the latest dr who episode now |
| 22:24.25 | ChipX86 | methinks I should finish frosting the cake and level up some |
| 22:24.33 | ChipX86 | then work on pas |
| 22:24.34 | file[laptop] | ChipX86: still need me to log off/on? |
| 22:24.38 | ChipX86 | nah |
| 22:24.42 | file[laptop] | k |
| 22:24.45 | ChipX86 | not yet anyway |
| 22:25.20 | darth_mall | there |
| 22:25.24 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03evan * r7914 10fyre/src/CanvasElement.cs: Commit dammit |
| 22:25.57 | darth_mall | now if only I could figure out why it's crashing... |
| 22:26.32 | purple_cow | doesn't crash here... |
| 22:29.48 | darth_mall | purple_cow: I haven't committed those changes yet ;) |
| 22:29.58 | purple_cow | ah |
| 22:30.02 | darth_mall | it's full of debuggative print statements |
| 22:33.39 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03evan * r7915 10fyre/src/ElementList.cs: Grr... this is still crashing when I try and call GetFromDrawable |
| 22:34.01 | ChipX86 | kergoth: it makes me sad when mountain lions find other mountain lions to gang up on me |
| 22:39.59 | purple_cow | darth_mall: if you actually commit something that crashes, i might be able to help debug :P |
| 22:40.31 | darth_mall | purple_cow: just did |
| 22:40.34 | darth_mall | that's what this |
| 22:40.41 | darth_mall | erm... s/this/that was/ |
| 22:41.32 | purple_cow | oh, sweet zombie jesus |
| 22:41.43 | purple_cow | i've been installing to /usr/bin for almost all of today but running the one in /usr/local/bin |
| 22:41.48 | ChipX86 | haha |
| 22:42.24 | darth_mall | oops ^^ |
| 22:57.06 | purple_cow | hrmph |
| 23:00.29 | purple_cow | silly darth_mall, creating crashes that are hard to debug |
| 23:03.34 | darth_mall | heh |
| 23:03.41 | darth_mall | it keeps your life interesting |
| 23:05.28 | kergoth | damnit! |
| 23:05.37 | kergoth | damn to be continued episodes |
| 23:09.39 | kergoth | hmmm? |
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| 23:15.54 | kergoth | fun |
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| 23:15.57 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03evan * r7916 10fyre/src/ElementList.cs: ws |
| 23:16.27 | TD | ugh |
| 23:16.27 | TD | there seems to be a bug in g++ |
| 23:16.27 | TD | which breaks binary portability for c++ programs |
| 23:16.27 | ChipX86 | the shock! |
| 23:16.27 | TD | grnhrh. |
| 23:16.45 | TD | this is the kind of crap we get for only ever distributing "portable" binaries that link against libc and nothing else |
| 23:16.58 | TD | <sigh> |
| 23:18.46 | darth_mall | g'night TD[gone] |
| 23:22.25 | kergoth | nullpuppy: poke |
| 23:23.18 | ChipX86 | nod |
| 23:24.10 | purple_cow | grrrrrr |
| 23:24.15 | purple_cow | i have no clue how to debug this |
| 23:25.20 | purple_cow | guess it's time to see if it's snowing in hell and i can get some help from #mono |
| 23:29.16 | darth_mall | ooooooooooooooh |
| 23:29.25 | darth_mall | purple_cow: I think I figured something out |
| 23:29.40 | darth_mall | the problem appears to be in CanvasElement, not in that pixbuf creation |
| 23:38.46 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03evan * r7917 10fyre/src/ (CanvasElement.cs ElementList.cs): Less crashy now! Still behaving weird, but less crashy. |
| 23:44.26 | darth_mall | there is no way this is going to end well... Travis has decided to learn to use Linux |
| 23:44.56 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03evan * r7918 10fyre/src/ElementList.cs: It helps if I use width and height for the pixbuf size, instead of width and width |
| 23:49.30 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03evan * r7919 10fyre/src/Plugins/Basic/ (4 files): |
| 23:49.31 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: Remove pango markup from pad names for now. The size of these boxes is looking |
| 23:49.31 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: pretty realistic. |
| 23:55.07 | file[laptop] | Level3 needs to be hurt |
| 23:56.09 | darth_mall | bleh... I hate this class |
