| 00:06.54 | lurgy | darth_mall: what time is this thingy again? |
| 00:13.20 | darth_mall | dunno |
| 00:13.27 | darth_mall | I think I said between 8:30 and 9 |
| 00:13.28 | darth_mall | lemme check |
| 00:13.45 | lurgy | cool |
| 00:14.42 | purple_cow | darth_mall: so who is this person you invited? |
| 00:15.13 | darth_mall | some person I met on facebook |
| 00:15.28 | darth_mall | she had a cool "About Me" regarding the electoral college |
| 00:15.32 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r7756 10fyre/src/NavigationImage.cs: no more crashing, shows a window and positions it correctly |
| 00:18.45 | lurgy | darth_mall: any luck? |
| 00:18.53 | lurgy | someone else is kibitzing at this kiosk ;) |
| 00:19.29 | lurgy | well, i'll leave it now |
| 00:19.35 | ChipX86 | thunder! |
| 00:20.26 | darth_mall | lurgy: it wouldn't show me the messages I sent, but I'm pretty sure I said 8:30 to 9 |
| 00:20.28 | scanline | vacuum parts everywhere... |
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| 00:24.09 | pagefault | hi |
| 00:24.43 | pagefault | mmm pizza |
| 00:25.38 | ChipX86 | no phone call yet |
| 00:25.48 | pagefault | from who |
| 00:25.50 | ChipX86 | if that place doesn't deliver it, I will be *pissed* |
| 00:25.52 | ChipX86 | Jamie or the florist |
| 00:26.00 | pagefault | oh |
| 00:29.34 | ChipX86 | heh, thunder, and now back to sunny |
| 00:35.40 | pagefault | wacky weather |
| 00:39.55 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r7757 10fyre/src/NavigationImage.cs: more implementation - it's drawing the background now |
| 00:40.27 | scanline | purple_cow, darth_mall: the problem is definitely inside the motor itself, and I can't find a way to open the motor without destroying it |
| 00:40.44 | scanline | feels like the bearings are toast |
| 00:40.46 | ChipX86 | hammer? |
| 00:41.16 | ChipX86 | scanline: did you see the spiffy WS5 screenshots that are going on the site? :) |
| 00:41.25 | scanline | yep! |
| 00:42.28 | scanline | ooh |
| 00:42.39 | scanline | purple_cow, darth_mall: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=42146&item=4371944199&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW#ebayphotohosting |
| 00:43.08 | scanline | not sure if that's the right model, but it definitely looks right |
| 00:43.44 | darth_mall | scanline: cool |
| 00:43.58 | scanline | er, nm.. that one isn't quite right |
| 00:44.10 | scanline | if we can't find a motor on ebay or something similar, it's probably cheaper to just get a new vacuum :( |
| 00:44.54 | purple_cow | scanline: err, i bet rich knows places to get things like that cheap :P |
| 00:45.00 | darth_mall | hehe |
| 00:45.38 | purple_cow | hehe, that'd be funny |
| 00:45.49 | darth_mall | that's what we call a "surprise" |
| 00:45.50 | purple_cow | we move out, and the next residents get rich to find out why the vaccuum doesn't work |
| 00:45.54 | purple_cow | "hang on, this isn't a motor!" |
| 00:45.58 | darth_mall | hehehe |
| 00:46.33 | scanline | I'm not sure whether to even bother putting this back together properly.. my tinkering with the motor probably made the bearings even worse |
| 00:46.36 | scanline | it's hard to turn by hand now |
| 00:46.52 | darth_mall | yay |
| 00:53.22 | ChipX86 | FUCKING COMPANY |
| 00:53.38 | ChipX86 | they never sent the damn flowers |
| 00:59.12 | kergoth | :( |
| 01:02.54 | file[laptop] | why not? |
| 01:03.15 | purple_cow | :( |
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| 01:21.13 | purple_cow | balsamic vinegar and chevre :) |
| 01:22.33 | laodamas | balsamic vinegar + baby peas + sage + olive oil is also yummy |
| 01:24.16 | lurgy | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_Cube |
| 01:25.13 | purple_cow | awesome |
| 01:30.21 | laodamas | purple_cow: where should I upload media on navi? /navi still is acting funny but you probably alreay know that |
| 01:32.11 | laodamas | Anyway ep 107 of robot chicken will be in my home directory in about 40 minutes |
| 01:33.10 | purple_cow | laodamas|away: uhh, i can get them faster from bittorrent :P |
| 01:35.03 | darth_mall | heh |
| 01:41.33 | purple_cow | /home is bad apparently at least use /tmp |
| 01:43.47 | file[laptop] | hrm it's only 10:45PM |
| 01:44.48 | lurgy | it seems file[laptop] has a good grasp on the clock reading thing |
| 01:47.51 | file[laptop] | it feels later |
| 01:55.46 | purple_cow | rofl |
| 01:55.48 | purple_cow | http://web.morons.org/article.jsp?sectionid=8&id=6131 |
| 02:01.32 | purple_cow | mmmm tosca |
| 02:01.46 | file[laptop] | lurgy: you make me happy |
| 02:21.53 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03evan * r7758 10fyre/src/Element.cs: Make inputs and outputs public in Element |
| 02:29.59 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r7759 10fyre/src/NavigationImage.cs: yay, it mostly behaves like it should, except for it not drawing the right and bottom sides when the window isn't the default size |
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| 02:31.03 | pagefault | hello |
| 02:31.17 | file[laptop] | waddup? |
| 02:32.19 | pagefault | not much |
| 02:32.20 | pagefault | you? |
| 02:32.23 | pagefault | bored |
| 02:33.00 | file[laptop] | Futurama, eBay, fun |
| 02:33.03 | file[laptop] | anything on? |
| 02:34.54 | file[laptop] | news I suppose |
| 02:36.19 | ChipX86 | yay, we just watched all of robot chicken |
| 02:37.19 | ChipX86 | btw, that family owned & operated in Chico, CA flower company i bought from isn't owned and operated in Chico, CA, and nobody seems to know anybody else there |
| 02:38.01 | file[laptop] | eh? |
| 02:38.26 | rioter | ChipX86 is robot chicken good? |
| 02:39.27 | ChipX86 | it's really screwed up and funny :) |
| 02:39.42 | ChipX86 | file[laptop]: that florist is in Texas |
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| 02:40.47 | file[laptop] | ChipX86: ic |
| 02:45.02 | file[laptop] | the jet stream on the weather report looks like the graph of a quartic... |
| 02:48.00 | ChipX86 | I know how I can get that company to send it |
| 02:48.07 | ChipX86 | I'm going to order her flowers from ftd.com right now |
| 02:48.12 | ChipX86 | I guarantee you she'll have both tomorrow |
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| 02:51.56 | darth_mall | that were fun |
| 02:52.16 | kergoth | ChipX86, nullpuppy, pagefault: wow? |
| 02:52.20 | file[laptop] | darth_mall: wb you silly potato |
| 02:52.20 | ChipX86 | I'm at work |
| 02:52.24 | pagefault | brb |
| 02:52.27 | pagefault | battery |
| 02:52.28 | pagefault | blah |
| 02:52.28 | ChipX86 | I'll play when I get home |
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| 02:52.33 | kergoth | ah |
| 02:52.33 | pagefault | no ac adaptor |
| 02:52.35 | pagefault | bbl |
| 02:52.51 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03evan * r7761 10fyre/src/Element.cs: |
| 02:52.51 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: Start the string format stuff for names and whatnot. But I'm probably |
| 02:52.51 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: going to redo this. Need to think more. ROBOT CHICKEN! |
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| 02:57.37 | ChipX86 | there. Ordered. |
| 02:57.45 | ChipX86 | watch her get two things of flowers and bears now |
| 03:01.02 | file[laptop] | ChipX86: it'll just make her feel double special |
| 03:02.57 | darth_mall | I love Seth Green |
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| 03:03.01 | lurgy | assuming it's linear |
| 03:03.10 | lurgy | could be logarithmic |
| 03:03.16 | darth_mall | or exponential |
| 03:03.21 | lurgy | maybe you need 10 things of flowers to feel twice as special |
| 03:03.25 | darth_mall | or parabolic |
| 03:03.33 | darth_mall | or hypergeometric |
| 03:07.30 | lurgy | yyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyYYES! |
| 03:08.32 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r7762 10fyre/ (TODO src/NavigationImage.cs src/PipelineDrawing.cs): make it all work happy-like, and remove all the old code. still having a weird bug, so add that to the TODO for someone else to fix ;-) |
| 03:10.46 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r7763 10fyre/ (TODO src/NavigationImage.cs): comment and make TODOs a bit more clear |
| 03:24.16 | nullpuppy | whoa, ws5 is out... /me wonders why chippy didn't say anything.... |
| 03:25.47 | darth_mall | he's been posting screenshots |
| 03:25.57 | darth_mall | or at least, he was earlier |
| 03:26.54 | nullpuppy | yeah, i see that now |
| 03:33.29 | darth_mall | nullpuppy: ^^ |
| 03:33.30 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03evan * r7764 10fyre/src/Element.cs: If comments provided funtionality, this would probably be working. |
| 03:41.45 | ChipX86 | yay home |
| 03:42.07 | nullpuppy | yay |
| 03:42.23 | ChipX86 | it's a shame I have to destroy this company |
| 03:43.16 | nullpuppy | hehe, yeah |
| 03:43.50 | kergoth | nullpuppy: how long is the mail delivery delay in wow generally?: |
| 03:44.15 | nullpuppy | couple minutes i think |
| 03:44.37 | nullpuppy | shouldn't take longer then 10-15 minutes |
| 03:44.44 | kergoth | k, cool |
| 03:45.09 | ChipX86 | hmm.. |
| 03:45.12 | kergoth | my rogue is farther ahead, quest wise, than my warrior, and is now level 16. i played too much today :P |
| 03:45.18 | ChipX86 | pizza, or something I make out of scraps |
| 03:46.14 | ChipX86 | oh wow, changed frequencies on my mouse and now it responds a lot better |
| 03:46.15 | nullpuppy | hehe :) |
| 03:46.43 | ChipX86 | pizza |
| 03:47.38 | nullpuppy | mmm, lub teh baileys |
| 03:48.00 | darth_mall | heh |
| 03:51.55 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r7765 10fyre/src/Element.cs: make it compile :P |
| 04:05.25 | purple_cow | hmm, darth_mall: care to fix StochasticBlur for the Element changes you made? |
| 04:06.29 | kergoth | ChipX86: you have engineering right? |
| 04:06.36 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 04:06.52 | ChipX86 | yay free soda with my small pizza |
| 04:07.05 | kergoth | ChipX86: can you create locks? i was reading about the rogue class online, and it said that you can have engineers create practice locks to bump the lock picking skill |
| 04:07.09 | kergoth | :) |
| 04:07.20 | ChipX86 | not yet |
| 04:07.30 | kergoth | k |
| 04:07.42 | ChipX86 | not skilled enough :/ |
| 04:09.47 | nullpuppy | hmm, i should order pizza |
| 04:19.15 | lurgy | lalala |
| 04:19.36 | slimspace | hey everyone |
| 04:19.40 | lurgy | hiya slimspace |
| 04:19.50 | lurgy | word up? |
| 04:20.13 | slimspace | hey lurgy |
| 04:21.22 | slimspace | hmm...can't seem to run fyre... |
| 04:23.47 | purple_cow | what's the problem? |
| 04:25.01 | slimspace | missing libgdiplus |
| 04:25.29 | purple_cow | you'll probably want mono 1.1, if you're not using it already |
| 04:25.35 | slimspace | yeah, I've got it |
| 04:25.44 | slimspace | spent all day emerging it on my small laptop |
| 04:26.08 | darth_mall | oh no! slimspace! |
| 04:26.26 | darth_mall | slimspace: gotta unmask libgdiplus 1.1.4 I think |
| 04:26.43 | slimspace | grr...I hope not |
| 04:27.05 | darth_mall | if you unmasked mono 1.1.6 and not libgdiplus 1.1.4, then you have to unmask it ;) |
| 04:27.59 | darth_mall | slimspace: are you getting an error in the System.Drawing.Pen constructor? |
| 04:28.11 | slimspace | yeah |
| 04:28.15 | slimspace | grr... |
| 04:28.18 | darth_mall | yeah |
| 04:28.26 | darth_mall | try installing libgdiplus 1.1.4 |
| 04:28.50 | darth_mall | I can't remember if you have to re-emerge mono afterwards |
| 04:28.53 | darth_mall | but I usually did |
| 04:29.15 | slimspace | hmm...if I do, I'm not gonna get much work done. |
| 04:29.22 | darth_mall | >=dev-dotnet/libgdiplus-1.1.4 |
| 04:29.29 | slimspace | yeah, I'm grabbing 1.1.5 |
| 04:29.34 | darth_mall | kk |
| 04:29.37 | darth_mall | it doesn't take long |
| 04:30.34 | slimspace | tell that to my PII 300 :) |
| 04:30.42 | slimspace | ugh, it has to emerge cairo... |
| 04:30.56 | slimspace | er, wait...not that big |
| 04:31.29 | slimspace | I do have it, but on this slow a computer, it spends most of its time processing the makefiles, so distcc doesn't help much. |
| 04:31.33 | purple_cow | this little kitty went to stasis, this little kitty stayed at home... |
| 04:31.54 | ChipX86 | this little kitty explode |
| 04:32.04 | purple_cow | slimspace: you could build on another system and use quickpkg ;) |
| 04:32.10 | file[laptop] | explode? that's twisted |
| 04:32.17 | file[laptop] | poor kitty |
| 04:32.23 | slimspace | yeah, but then I'd have to adjust make.conf every time I did that. |
| 04:32.50 | slimspace | ok, so now it runs on my main laptop |
| 04:35.14 | purple_cow | cool |
| 04:38.15 | slimspace | wow, that was a horribly out-of-date version of cairo it decided to install... |
| 04:41.57 | lurgy | boom! |
| 04:44.18 | lurgy | yay |
| 04:46.15 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03evan * r7766 10fyre/src/Plugins/Basic/StochasticBlur.cs: |
| 04:46.15 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: It compiles, therefore it must be perfect. In spite of the pads |
| 04:46.15 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: not showing up in tooltips. |
| 05:00.57 | nullpuppy | fsck :( desktop just hard locked again, and no ssh access :/ |
| 05:05.06 | slimspace | yay, fyre runs...kinda |
| 05:05.17 | slimspace | drag-and-drop is a bit kerspoofy |
| 05:05.31 | purple_cow | hmm? |
| 05:05.49 | slimspace | Unhandled Exception: System.NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object |
| 05:05.50 | slimspace | in <0x0002e> Gdk.Pixbuf:GetFromDrawable (Gdk.Drawable src, Gdk.Colormap cmap, Int32 src_x, Int32 src_y, Int32 dest_x, Int32 dest_y, Int32 width, Int32 height) |
| 05:05.50 | slimspace | in [0x000e8] (at /home/darkstar62/tmp/fyre/src/ElementList.cs:132) Fyre.ElementList:OnDragBegin (Gdk.DragContext context) |
| 05:06.06 | purple_cow | hmm, darth_mall was having that problem too |
| 05:06.33 | nullpuppy | kergoth: did you find the thieves tools? |
| 05:09.06 | kergoth | nope |
| 05:09.08 | kergoth | hmm |
| 05:09.52 | slimspace | purple_cow: For each element, is the Category attribute just the classification of the element as viewed in the treeview? |
| 05:10.14 | purple_cow | yep |
| 05:10.19 | slimspace | ah, ok |
| 05:12.40 | slimspace | hmm... |
| 05:13.37 | purple_cow | slimspace: i was just going to use name (since that should be unique too) |
| 05:13.53 | slimspace | ah. I was thinking both, just in case it wasn't. |
| 05:14.02 | purple_cow | i think it would be confusing if it wasn't |
| 05:14.28 | purple_cow | we should have a limited enough element palette that we can keep the names unique |
| 05:14.52 | slimspace | true. But I think we should either allow for the elements to have same names, or enforce that they don't. |
| 05:15.55 | purple_cow | enforcing seems good to me |
| 05:16.02 | slimspace | me too |
| 05:17.29 | purple_cow | actually, they're kind of enforced already |
| 05:17.36 | purple_cow | since the ElementFactory uses names to create them |
| 05:18.28 | purple_cow | but it would be good to enforce it at plugin load time so that it doesn't appear in the element list twice |
| 05:18.36 | slimspace | yeah |
| 05:21.52 | slimspace | So I'm thinking putting a check in FindPluginTypes() that weeds out duplicate names |
| 05:22.42 | purple_cow | what you could do is to add a warning dialog to the element factory triggered when you try to add an element that already exists |
| 05:22.43 | slimspace | hmm...maybe make all_plugin_types a hash, keyed to names and pointing to the types |
| 05:23.01 | purple_cow | and then have PluginManager add stuff to the factory, and iterate over the factory's hash to build the ElementList |
| 05:23.26 | purple_cow | that way we're not building multiple hashes for the same thing |
| 05:25.19 | slimspace | hmm...ok, easy enough |
| 05:26.19 | purple_cow | maybe add some kind of accessor to get the enumerator |
| 05:26.44 | slimspace | add some kind of who on the what now? |
| 05:26.58 | purple_cow | so the hash on the ElementFactory is private, right |
| 05:27.04 | purple_cow | and we probably don't want to make that public |
| 05:27.04 | slimspace | right |
| 05:27.38 | slimspace | ah, ok |
| 05:27.38 | slimspace | I follow |
| 05:27.38 | purple_cow | but add an accessor to retrieve an enumerator for it, so you can iterate over it from the ElementList |
| 05:28.06 | purple_cow | slimspace: if you're not running monodoc, you ought to be :) |
| 05:28.12 | slimspace | I'm compiling it now |
| 05:28.36 | slimspace | what do you mean by enumerator? |
| 05:28.56 | purple_cow | ok, System.Collections.Hashtable implements IDictionary |
| 05:29.17 | slimspace | ok |
| 05:29.19 | purple_cow | and IDictionary has this "enumerator" thing, which is basically an iterator-type object that enumerates the elements in the dict |
| 05:29.47 | purple_cow | basically a generator |
| 05:29.54 | slimspace | ah, ok |
| 05:33.20 | purple_cow | one of the great things about .NET is that it has a massive standard library, but even though it's well documented, it's a lot to learn |
| 05:35.24 | slimspace | Ah, I see what you're talking about now |
| 06:30.04 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03darkstar62 * r7767 10fyre/src/ (ElementFactory.cs PipelineEditor.cs): ElementFactory now checks for duplicate names in loaded elements, and displays an error if it finds any |
| 06:30.37 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03darkstar62 * r7768 10fyre/src/PipelineEditor.cs: whoops, left-over commented out code |
| 06:31.01 | purple_cow | slimspace: you should add yourself to AUTHORS, since i didn't know what email address you prefer |
| 06:31.15 | slimspace | alright |
| 06:32.09 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03darkstar62 * r7769 10fyre/AUTHORS: Updated AUTHORS to reflect me as an author :) |
| 06:32.26 | slimspace | hmm, C# is rather nifty |
| 06:33.39 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r7770 10fyre/src/PipelineEditor.cs: |
| 06:33.39 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: obviously slimspace needs these in his .vimrc |
| 06:33.39 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: highlight WhitespaceEOL ctermbg=red guibg=red |
| 06:33.39 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: match WhitespaceEOL /\s\+$/ |
| 06:34.09 | slimspace | :) |
| 06:40.38 | purple_cow | ooh, cool palindromic revision number coming up |
| 06:56.48 | purple_cow | hmm, scanline is actually kind of drunk |
| 07:01.59 | ChipX86 | uh oh |
| 07:04.04 | purple_cow | he's got a *lot* of energy |
| 07:10.35 | slimspace | purple_cow: any reason why adding serialization functions to the pad classes would be bad? I'm thinking since each element can serialize itself, why not have the pads able to serialize themselves too? |
| 07:11.37 | purple_cow | could be |
| 07:11.49 | purple_cow | i don't think we need to serialize inputs, but outputs should serialize their connection list |
| 07:11.56 | slimspace | yeah, definitely |
| 07:12.19 | purple_cow | could just stub it out in the Pad class and only have an implementation in OutputPad |
| 07:20.22 | purple_cow | slimspace: we need to work out how serialization works. i'm thinking we should pass in the parent node to the serialize function, and it would add a child as it wished, but there are other ways too |
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| 07:52.25 | slimspace | purple_cow: that's one way. I'm working on a starting file organization now, just to get my thoughts straight (and to learn how this works) |
| 07:53.19 | slimspace | hmm...I like that idea though. |
| 07:53.36 | purple_cow | file organization? |
| 07:54.07 | slimspace | your idea for the parents |
| 07:54.11 | purple_cow | ahh |
| 07:54.16 | purple_cow | you might take a look at examples/ |
| 07:54.30 | purple_cow | which is just my attempt at designing a file format |
| 07:54.47 | slimspace | that's what I was starting to settle on, actually |
| 07:54.54 | slimspace | something very similar |
| 07:55.40 | purple_cow | hehe |
| 07:55.47 | purple_cow | now we just need to get scanline interested in this project ;) |
| 07:55.58 | slimspace | yeah, and so each node would be serialized one at a time, and have edges defined to other nodes. |
| 07:56.01 | slimspace | hehe, yeah |
| 07:56.31 | slimspace | C#'s XML stuff is really nice |
| 07:58.26 | slimspace | mmm...yeah, it does automatic indenting and formatting, and you can pretty much define a whole file with very little code |
| 07:58.34 | slimspace | I had a sample file defined with about 8 lines of code. |
| 07:59.40 | purple_cow | cool |
| 08:00.06 | purple_cow | only XML bindings i've ever seen that were good were for functional languages |
| 08:01.05 | slimspace | hmm...looks like I need some string foo to convert spaces in names to something more xml-friendly... |
| 08:01.36 | purple_cow | slimspace: could just get rid of the spaces |
| 08:02.01 | slimspace | hmm...or ToLower() and Replace() will work |
| 08:02.10 | purple_cow | mmmk |
| 08:02.48 | purple_cow | you'll probably need a hash of those strings -> System.Type for deserialization |
| 08:04.32 | purple_cow | i wonder if there's a way to have a bidirectional hash |
| 08:04.38 | slimspace | hmm... |
| 08:05.02 | slimspace | Will we ever want to serialize the canvas positions? |
| 08:05.14 | purple_cow | yeah |
| 08:05.40 | purple_cow | could have elements serialize their CanvasElement... |
| 08:05.44 | slimspace | ok. Easy enough to do that for the elements...As for the connections, maybe we can do an auto-router |
| 08:05.55 | slimspace | instead of serializing each line |
| 08:06.17 | purple_cow | mebbe |
| 08:06.27 | purple_cow | depends on what scanline wants, so i'm waiting to work out most of the canvas stuff |
| 08:06.35 | slimspace | yeah |
| 08:06.41 | slimspace | I'll leave stubs just in case |
| 08:48.01 | slimspace | How can I access the element attribute of a PadConnection? I'm getting errors about protection levels whenever I try to access it. |
| 08:54.28 | ChipX86 | is the 1984 movie any good? I've only read the book |
| 09:04.19 | purple_cow | slimspace: feel free to change that a bit |
| 09:04.26 | purple_cow | i think most of that is just speculative API by darth_mall |
| 09:05.50 | slimspace | ah |
| 09:06.06 | slimspace | ok, so it looks like most of the serialization is in place now |
| 09:06.23 | purple_cow | slimspace: heh, you need to commit more often ;) |
| 09:06.29 | slimspace | hehe, yeah... |
| 09:06.33 | slimspace | here comes a big one |
| 09:07.14 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03darkstar62 * r7771 10fyre/src/ (10 files in 3 dirs): Most of the framework needed for serialization is in place. Still need a way to serialize the CanvasElements, and deserialization is not in place at all. |
| 09:07.31 | slimspace | This is the first time I've gotten it to compile since I've been working on it |
| 09:12.24 | slimspace | did scanline collapse for the night? |
| 09:12.37 | purple_cow | naw, he's here, but talking to folks |
| 09:12.45 | slimspace | ah |
| 09:14.00 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r7772 10fyre/src/ (Element.cs Pipeline.cs PipelineEditor.cs): ws :) |
| 09:22.33 | slimspace | So what filename extension should we use for our pipelines? .pipe? |
| 09:23.43 | slimspace | ok |
| 09:23.59 | purple_cow | we can use xml magic (<fyre-pipeline> toplevel), so it doesn't matter so much anyway |
| 09:25.44 | slimspace | yeah |
| 09:52.27 | slimspace | is fyre going to use gnome libraries at all? |
| 09:53.11 | purple_cow | i was avoiding real "gnome" libraries so far, just because there's nothing we've really needed them for and i'd like to keep it portable |
| 09:53.18 | purple_cow | if there's a good reason to use them, i'm up for it |
| 09:53.31 | slimspace | only thing I can think of thus far is to make use of the nice file selection dialogs |
| 09:53.40 | purple_cow | slimspace: huh? |
| 09:54.10 | purple_cow | the file chooser is part of gtk |
| 09:54.25 | slimspace | yeah, but the one that's part of gtk# is the old-style one |
| 09:54.47 | purple_cow | slimspace: gtk# 1.9 is 2.4 |
| 09:54.50 | slimspace | lemme commit so you can see |
| 09:55.06 | purple_cow | the stuff in the monodoc on gentoo is 1.0 |
| 09:55.38 | purple_cow | if you look at http://www.go-mono.com/docs/ it's got the new one |
| 09:55.42 | slimspace | I see... |
| 09:56.31 | purple_cow | http://www.go-mono.com/docs/monodoc.ashx?tlink=6@ecma%3a992%23FileChooserDialog%2f |
| 09:57.51 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03darkstar62 * r7773 10fyre/src/ (Pipeline.cs PipelineEditor.cs): Add a file selector, and update the xml formatting a bit |
| 09:59.26 | purple_cow | slimspace: btw, i've been using fully qualified names except when they get really long - so avoiding things like "using Gtk" |
| 10:00.07 | slimspace | ok |
| 10:00.27 | purple_cow | but things like "System.Collections.Hashtable" is getting a little long for a type :) |
| 10:00.31 | slimspace | what is gtk's fully? |
| 10:00.44 | purple_cow | just use things like Gtk.FileChooser instead of "FileChooser" |
| 10:00.46 | slimspace | mmm, yeah |
| 10:00.49 | slimspace | oh, ok |
| 10:01.02 | purple_cow | since using pollutes the namespace |
| 10:08.28 | slimspace | what do you make of this error? |
| 10:08.30 | slimspace | PipelineEditor.cs(228) error CS1540: Cannot access protected member `Gtk.FileChooserDialog.FileChooserDialog' via a qualifier of type `Gtk.FileChooserDialog'; the qualifier must be of type `Fyre.PipelineEditor' (or derived from it) |
| 10:08.41 | slimspace | The line is |
| 10:08.53 | slimspace | Gtk.FileChooserDialog fs = new Gtk.FileChooserDialog (); |
| 10:09.37 | purple_cow | without seeing the rest of the code, i'm just guessing it's because there are no public constructors with that signature |
| 10:10.11 | slimspace | hmm...and according to the docs, the rest haven't been implemented. |
| 10:11.07 | purple_cow | slimspace: you can probably ignore those, i've seen that before and it seems it's a monodoc bug |
| 10:11.49 | slimspace | hmm, you're right. Went through when I implemented one of them |
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| 11:34.22 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03darkstar62 * r7774 10fyre/src/ (Element.cs ElementList.cs PipelineEditor.cs): |
| 11:34.22 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: Found the bug causing misterious drag crashes on both my computer and Evan's. |
| 11:34.22 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: Also fixed a small bug in the serialization that was causing IDs not to be put |
| 11:34.22 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: into the attributes. Finally, our save dialog box is now all spiffy and stuff, |
| 11:34.22 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: and actually saves. |
| 16:47.18 | nullpuppy | http://yro.slashdot.org/yro/05/04/08/2213237.shtml?tid=98&tid=123&tid=103 |
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| 17:07.16 | darth_mall | mornin' ChipX86 |
| 17:09.56 | ChipX86 | morning |
| 17:14.39 | file[laptop] | yay ChipX86 |
| 17:16.15 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03evan * r7775 10fyre/src/ (7 files in 3 dirs): |
| 17:16.15 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: Move InputDesc and OutputDesc into Element. Still not getting anything in the |
| 17:16.16 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: tooltips, though. |
| 17:18.30 | ChipX86 | noooooooo |
| 17:18.35 | ChipX86 | nullpuppy, here? |
| 17:20.08 | ChipX86 | ohh |
| 17:20.10 | ChipX86 | yayQ! |
| 17:20.26 | darth_mall | ah |
| 17:20.35 | darth_mall | I know why it's not showing up in the tooltips |
| 17:22.11 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03evan * r7776 10fyre/src/Element.cs: Fixed the tooltip problem. |
| 17:23.24 | darth_mall | hmm... and monodoc is broken =P |
| 17:27.44 | darth_mall | whoa... something with my gtk sharp is all kinds of screwed up |
| 17:27.53 | ChipX86 | WOOT! |
| 17:29.34 | gonkulator | howdy ChipX86 |
| 17:29.52 | file[laptop] | looks like Cingular is my cellular provider while in the US |
| 17:30.13 | ChipX86 | hey gonkulator |
| 17:32.11 | *** join/#tacobeam zak (~zak@128.138.74.40) |
| 17:32.15 | gonkulator | morning zak |
| 17:32.47 | zak | hiya gonkulator |
| 17:33.03 | zak | gonkulator: are you really not in CO? |
| 17:33.23 | zak | lurgy: did that lady call you? |
| 17:33.38 | file[laptop] | yay for gonkulator |
| 17:33.39 | zak | gonkulator: ah, for some reason i thoughted you were studying elsewhere |
| 17:33.47 | gonkulator | heh |
| 17:33.57 | gonkulator | there is a chance I'll get sent to Rome to study theology next year or the year after |
| 17:34.01 | zak | oh! btw! |
| 17:34.11 | zak | http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0670672238/qid%3D1113025793/sr%3D2-5/ref%3Dpd%5Fbbs%5Fb%5F2%5F5/103-7286150-4542207 |
| 17:34.12 | merlin262 | gonkulator, cool |
| 17:34.27 | zak | go there and scrol down to the spotlight reviews |
| 17:34.32 | merlin262 | gonkulator, but then we won't see you at all. :( |
| 17:34.57 | lurgy | zak: nope, not yet =/ |
| 17:35.00 | lurgy | zak: soon hopefully |
| 17:35.08 | lurgy | getting on 3 weeks or so since that thursday i think |
| 17:35.14 | lurgy | so they're probably close to deciding |
| 17:36.34 | darth_mall | lurgy: at that colonoscopy place? |
| 17:37.28 | ChipX86 | I am commander of the robot squirrel! |
| 17:37.40 | lurgy | darth_mall: yeah |
| 17:37.50 | lurgy | ooh, zak forwarded me one o them interny maily thingies |
| 17:38.24 | ChipX86 | awww it's soo cute |
| 17:38.47 | gonkulator | zak: which spotlight review are you pointing to? |
| 17:38.57 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03evan * r7777 10fyre/src/Element.cs: TypeFormatter stub |
| 17:39.06 | gonkulator | palendrome goodness |
| 17:39.12 | zak | gonkulator: the one that is a joke on unix |
| 17:39.19 | zak | it is the only one i can see :) |
| 17:39.26 | gonkulator | heh, there are two for me |
| 17:39.46 | zak | ok, the funny one then! |
| 17:40.11 | gonkulator | heh, neat :) |
| 17:40.33 | darth_mall | there |
| 17:40.40 | darth_mall | looks like I fixed my stable install of gtk# |
| 17:41.06 | zak | gonkulator: i am good, graduation is a year away |
| 17:42.24 | gonkulator | good good |
| 17:43.13 | darth_mall | "Dante's seminal work on MS Windows, Inferno" <-- lol |
| 17:44.39 | file[laptop] | yay for blankets |
| 17:45.52 | gonkulator | zak: have you seen pictures of carpman's baby? |
| 17:46.09 | gonkulator | http://www.voidptr.org/sarah/ |
| 17:46.24 | file[laptop] | pure insanity |
| 17:46.36 | zak | lurgy: hehe! you can apply for an internship with amazon :P |
| 17:47.45 | zak | lurgy: but actually, when i asked about the lady, i was referring to a girl who contacted me about my spare room and to my dismay (since she sounded awesome..) is allergic to cats, and failed to notice the "we have two cats" part of my ad...so i mentioned you all. |
| 17:47.45 | lurgy | ^_^ |
| 17:48.37 | zak | she even said she doesn't mind boys or small rooms. *shrug* |
| 17:48.46 | lurgy | ah |
| 17:48.48 | lurgy | oh well |
| 17:48.51 | lurgy | thanks anyhows |
| 17:48.55 | file[laptop] | sure she didn't mind... insane boys? |
| 17:48.56 | zak | she may or may not contact you, but we shall see. |
| 17:49.08 | zak | file[laptop]: she had brothers...same things |
| 17:49.10 | lurgy | nod |
| 17:49.18 | file[laptop] | quite true |
| 17:58.29 | darth_mall | heh |
| 18:03.39 | gonkulator | sanity impaired :-D |
| 18:04.41 | lurgy | hehe |
| 18:08.09 | *** join/#tacobeam JeffM2501 (~JeffM@Patlabor221.active.supporter.pdpc) |
| 18:08.48 | gonkulator | ~seen Cae |
| 18:08.50 | jbot | cae <~mschneide@Bloc-14.isc.tamu.edu> was last seen on IRC in channel #tacobeam, 1d 53m 46s ago, saying: 'class, have fun :)'. |
| 18:09.55 | gonkulator | oh |
| 18:09.58 | gonkulator | why? |
| 18:10.25 | darth_mall | someone was doing a lot of larting or something and I guess it bothered scanline |
| 18:10.32 | darth_mall | or scanline was just being silly |
| 18:10.33 | darth_mall | not sure |
| 18:10.52 | darth_mall | there |
| 18:10.57 | darth_mall | finally able to re-emerge tomboy |
| 18:12.08 | zak | lurgy: there is an IEEE competition today |
| 18:12.14 | purple_cow | local people are invited for breakfast in a bit :) |
| 18:12.24 | lurgy | breakfast? |
| 18:12.35 | zak | the judges were amused that there were no CU folk competeing |
| 18:12.41 | zak | lurgy: (read lunch) |
| 18:12.50 | lurgy | :) |
| 18:12.51 | lurgy | tempting |
| 18:12.54 | lurgy | but, i just ate |
| 18:13.02 | lurgy | and am supposed to go to a performance pretty soon =/ |
| 18:13.44 | file[laptop] | go lurgy go lurgy |
| 18:14.38 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03evan * r7778 10fyre/src/Element.cs: |
| 18:14.38 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: Added a ToString() to FString because it seems to make sense. Added an empty |
| 18:14.38 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: constructor for TypeFormatter. |
| 18:19.21 | scanline | breakfast?! |
| 18:23.07 | file[laptop] | great idea |
| 18:25.37 | purple_cow | damnit, i need a bigger bowl |
| 18:25.40 | purple_cow | lurgy: got a big bowl? |
| 18:25.43 | ChipX86 | I'm so looking forward to watching The Hitchhiker's Guide |
| 18:25.49 | file[laptop] | ChipX86: so am I |
| 18:25.54 | ChipX86 | Jamie and I are going to go see it :D |
| 18:26.00 | gonkulator | fun :) |
| 18:26.16 | ChipX86 | and yay, she should actually have flowers today |
| 18:27.57 | ChipX86 | hah! love the "Google Founders Cut Salaris to $1" update on /. |
| 18:29.16 | zak | hey all check out /tmp/PV_500Kv_line_opened_under_load.mpg |
| 18:30.51 | zak | now that's a spark! |
| 18:31.01 | gonkulator | wow, neat |
| 18:31.07 | zak | did you listen with sound? |
| 18:31.43 | gonkulator | wow |
| 18:33.53 | zak | hehhe |
| 18:34.22 | file[laptop] | bad dirty glasses! |
| 18:34.23 | zak | ChipX86: you should only get her flowers if you get her a pot of petunias to take with her to the premiere |
| 18:34.26 | zak | buahaha |
| 18:34.37 | ChipX86 | zak: ..? |
| 18:34.46 | ChipX86 | well the movie isn't any time soon, and the flowers are being delivered today |
| 18:35.40 | file[laptop] | yay flowers |
| 18:35.42 | zak | ChipX86: well...they aren't going to stop selling pot's of petunias just because HGTG isn't opening today :) |
| 18:35.50 | ChipX86 | heh yeah |
| 18:36.18 | ChipX86 | oh. I understand it but wasn't associating it :( |
| 18:36.24 | ChipX86 | pretty distracted |
| 18:36.31 | ChipX86 | "Not again.' |
| 18:36.49 | zak | ChipX86: it's "oh no, not again" |
| 18:37.04 | ChipX86 | technicalities |
| 18:37.26 | ChipX86 | I've read the whole "trilogy" probably 7, 8 times |
| 18:37.27 | zak | bleh |
| 18:37.33 | ChipX86 | I own 5 copies |
| 18:37.43 | darth_mall | wow... 5 copies? |
| 18:37.49 | ChipX86 | I was able to get them cheap for a while |
| 18:37.53 | darth_mall | hehe |
| 18:37.55 | ChipX86 | and would loan them out |
| 18:38.03 | file[laptop] | they're just *that* good |
| 18:38.14 | darth_mall | I think the only books I've got multiple copies of is LotR |
| 18:38.20 | ChipX86 | chatting in 2 channels while fighting on WoW and watching TV is tough |
| 18:38.33 | darth_mall | and that's just cuz I was in Durango and wanted to read it, but had left my copy at my parents' |
| 18:40.42 | zak | but attenuated her collection at the request of her parents |
| 18:40.49 | scanline | zak: wow |
| 18:40.57 | zak | scanline: what? |
| 18:41.04 | scanline | the video |
| 18:41.11 | zak | scanline: hehehe |
| 18:41.12 | ChipX86 | nullpuppy, kergoth`bbl: ping |
| 18:41.15 | zak | we should try that |
| 18:41.17 | zak | jk |
| 18:41.20 | zak | pong |
| 18:41.39 | scanline | zak: you buy the power switching equipment and I'll push the 'open' button |
| 18:41.51 | zak | done deal |
| 18:42.14 | purple_cow | damn you safeway and only having a quart of buttermilk |
| 18:42.16 | zak | scanline: wasn't it cool to actually be able to see the electrons repeling each other |
| 18:42.16 | scanline | what kind of crappy UI is this... I don't understand |
| 18:42.21 | purple_cow | this is gonna make SO much |
| 18:42.31 | zak | purple_cow: what are you making? |
| 18:43.38 | purple_cow | pancakes |
| 18:44.44 | scanline | oh |
| 18:44.47 | scanline | fucking ubuntu.. |
| 18:44.56 | scanline | it's been running 3D xscreensavers inside my minimized vmware for the last couple days |
| 18:46.38 | ChipX86 | hah |
| 18:48.36 | purple_cow | hmm, yeah |
| 18:50.44 | scanline | hmm |
| 18:51.56 | purple_cow | scanline: i bet you could arrange a free copy, given your relationship with vmware right now... |
| 18:52.10 | scanline | not sure how that works, but maybe |
| 18:53.04 | scanline | wow |
| 18:53.19 | scanline | the new vmware tools installer for linux is nice |
| 18:53.30 | scanline | well, as nice as the isntaller for vmware itself |
| 18:55.48 | purple_cow | yay, it seems to be working! |
| 19:09.08 | darth_mall | smells yummy |
| 19:12.46 | purple_cow | there are about 9 done, if you want some |
| 19:16.36 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03darkstar62 * r7779 10fyre/src/ (Pipeline.cs PipelineEditor.cs): Make save and save as do the right thing. Modifying the document and saving now changes the titlebar text. |
| 19:33.41 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03micah * r7780 10wasabi/local_conf.py: Hey look, some random changes... update config version, add cover images, temporarily disable unicone |
| 19:33.54 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03micah * r7781 10wasabi/lircrc: Fix key repeat |
| 19:34.12 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03micah * r7782 10wasabi/devices/mi6k/userspace/tests/vfd_fade.py: Reset the VFD to dim rather than bright on exit |
| 19:47.16 | scanline | hehe |
| 19:52.52 | purple_cow | wtf |
| 19:52.53 | purple_cow | http://www.thenewstribune.com/news/local/story/4758342p-4385055c.html |
| 19:54.49 | scanline | nuts! |
| 19:55.19 | ChipX86 | ... |
| 19:55.32 | darth_mall | so... rather then stop using TV to raise our kids, we should make TV a better parent? |
| 19:55.39 | ChipX86 | yep |
| 19:55.44 | ChipX86 | because cookies are BAD FOR YOU |
| 19:55.50 | ChipX86 | you will die early if you eat cookies |
| 19:56.24 | purple_cow | and dammit, he's the cookie monster, not the eggplant monster |
| 19:58.20 | ChipX86 | maybe they'll kill the cookie monster to show that cookies cause you to die, and then introduce the eggplant monster? |
| 20:00.10 | purple_cow | that would make me so sad |
| 20:00.40 | purple_cow | i don't think the problem is TV shows teaching kids to eat cookies :P |
| 20:09.56 | purple_cow | hurray! all done |
| 20:12.00 | slimspace | purple_cow: do we have any plans for how to handle multiple open documents in fyre? |
| 20:12.39 | purple_cow | i wasn't going to do multiple documents |
| 20:12.56 | slimspace | oh, ok. That makes things easy then. |
| 20:13.01 | purple_cow | we can serialize elements into a text buffer on the clipboard, so if they want to cut/paste between two documents, they can run two copies |
| 20:13.49 | slimspace | might be kinda handy to allow for multiple instance of the PipelineEditor open though, just so that users don't have to open new instances of the program |
| 20:14.08 | slimspace | I'm thinking for like new and open. Instead of replacing the current document, it would open a new window with the opened document. |
| 20:14.58 | darth_mall | purple_cow: tasty |
| 20:15.28 | purple_cow | slimspace: mmmk |
| 20:20.46 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r7783 10fyre/src/ (NavigationImage.cs PipelineDrawing.cs PipelineEditor.cs): add some stuff in an attempt to fix the scrollbar exposey bug |
| 20:23.31 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03darkstar62 * r7784 10fyre/src/ (Pipeline.cs PipelineEditor.cs): Saving is now fully implemented into the interface, including changing toolbar and menu item sensitivity when no changes are present. |
| 20:32.04 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r7785 10fyre/ (data/pipeline-editor.glade src/PipelineEditor.cs): use widget handles rather than keeping around the Glade.XML, so the XML structure can be garbage collected |
| 20:32.38 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r7786 10fyre/src/Pipeline.cs: ws |
| 20:35.54 | scanline | zak: they're here waiting for you, apparently |
| 20:41.31 | scanline | hmm |
| 20:41.37 | scanline | 7.6 picoamps? |
| 20:46.23 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r7787 10fyre/src/PipelineEditor.cs: use stock buttons for the save dialogs, set 'save' as the default response, and wait to Destroy() until after we've accessed the data we need |
| 20:47.39 | gonkulator | whibble |
| 20:48.05 | file[laptop] | whobble |
| 20:52.43 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r7788 10fyre/ (TODO src/Element.cs): remove some outdated TODOs, fix more ws |
| 20:57.00 | ChipX86 | hope these flowers are getting delivered |
| 20:58.10 | darth_mall | weave a suit from carpet fuzz |
| 20:58.43 | kergoth | holy shit |
| 20:58.45 | kergoth | i just woke up |
| 20:58.47 | kergoth | at 4pm |
| 20:58.49 | darth_mall | heh |
| 20:58.49 | kergoth | what the fuck is wrong with me |
| 20:58.56 | ChipX86 | :/ |
| 20:59.01 | kergoth | brb, shower |
| 20:59.01 | kergoth | heh |
| 20:59.02 | ChipX86 | and it's Sunday of all days |
| 20:59.19 | scanline | it's saturday :P |
| 20:59.29 | ChipX86 | sshh |
| 20:59.36 | gonkulator | rofl |
| 20:59.39 | gonkulator | ChipX86: you're funny :) |
| 21:11.58 | file[laptop] | this kernel needs to compile faster |
| 21:12.45 | CIA-5 | galago: 03chipx86 * r1665 10libgalago-gtk/ (ChangeLog tests/test-chooser.c): Set the main window as the parent for the chooser dialog. |
| 21:13.02 | gonkulator | wow |
| 21:13.38 | file[laptop] | well, I'm building one for the geode board that someone sent me... |
| 21:13.56 | file[laptop] | it's my last ditch effort in getting it's IDE controller to behave |
| 21:17.21 | CIA-5 | galago: 03chipx86 * r1666 10libgalago-gtk/ (ChangeLog libgalago-gtk/galago-gtk-service-list.c): Fix the assertions in galago_gtk_service_list_set_current_item_type. |
| 21:18.33 | ChipX86 | I hope they sent the flowers.. |
| 21:18.34 | file[laptop] | when will you get news regarding the flowers? |
| 21:19.32 | ChipX86 | sometime today |
| 21:19.37 | ChipX86 | assuming they're sent today |
| 21:19.50 | ChipX86 | ftd.com shouldn't let me down.. blossomflorists.com is crap |
| 21:20.22 | gonkulator | groceries online, flowers online |
| 21:20.38 | ChipX86 | gonkulator: it's not like I can walk to a store and bring them over |
| 21:20.46 | gonkulator | if you're not careful, you will never actually see another living being :) |
| 21:20.58 | ChipX86 | except I see a lot of people every single day |
| 21:21.03 | gonkulator | yeah |
| 21:21.33 | ChipX86 | it's a convenience thing. I *have* to order flowers for Jamie, because I live here. Buying groceries online is faster than walking a mile and a half to the nearest grocery store and bringing everything back |
| 21:21.54 | gonkulator | yeah, I just think its funny |
| 21:22.38 | kergoth | i need to get boxes so i can pack |
| 21:22.49 | kergoth | i keep procrastinating it |
| 21:22.53 | gonkulator | kergoth: moving? |
| 21:23.08 | purple_cow | hmmdeedoo |
| 21:23.51 | merlin262 | ahhh, back home |
| 21:23.57 | merlin262 | lawn mower shopping is teh suck |
| 21:23.58 | kergoth | gonkulator: yeah, i quit my job at ti, moving back to my townhouse in MN to cut expenses while i figure out what i want to be doing. |
| 21:24.12 | merlin262 | kergoth, moving? :( |
| 21:24.19 | merlin262 | and we never got to meet! |
| 21:24.36 | kergoth | hehe |
| 21:24.52 | kergoth | i never met prpplague from #elinux either, he moved to barbados before we had a chance to have a beer |
| 21:25.07 | gonkulator | merlin262: you should meet up |
| 21:25.08 | kergoth | but he was right in dallas here |
| 21:25.09 | ChipX86 | I never got to meet you either :( |
| 21:25.34 | gonkulator | rofl |
| 21:25.46 | ChipX86 | yay sexy dialog |
| 21:25.47 | gonkulator | who was it that held his middle finger up as the plane circled around Dallas? |
| 21:25.59 | gonkulator | so that he was guranteed to get someone |
| 21:26.00 | ChipX86 | yay even more sexy screenshots that still aren't up |
| 21:26.21 | kergoth | hmm, dont remember, it was either sorphin or cosmicpenguin |
| 21:26.45 | gonkulator | sorphin! |
| 21:26.59 | ChipX86 | *explodes* |
| 21:27.08 | ChipX86 | kergoth: I wanna show you something in WoW later |
| 21:27.12 | kergoth | k |
| 21:27.12 | ChipX86 | very proud of it |
| 21:27.27 | kergoth | engineering feat? |
| 21:27.30 | ChipX86 | yep |
| 21:27.33 | kergoth | cool :) |
| 21:27.41 | ChipX86 | well, kinda got it at an auction |
| 21:27.44 | ChipX86 | but I was surprised at the price |
| 21:27.52 | ChipX86 | and had the necessary skill |
| 21:28.01 | kergoth | ah |
| 21:28.24 | darth_mall | welp, I'd better get off to capoeira |
| 21:28.34 | darth_mall | later kids |
| 21:28.47 | kergoth | have fun |
| 21:29.59 | ChipX86 | what's your name on there again? |
| 21:32.54 | kergoth | ChipX86: me? on wow? |
| 21:33.02 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 21:33.08 | ChipX86 | I realized I never added it |
| 21:33.10 | ChipX86 | (the new one) |
| 21:33.13 | kergoth | the rogue is parjas, the warrior is barclan |
| 21:33.22 | kergoth | huh, never noticed the similar structure of the names |
| 21:33.25 | kergoth | heh |
| 21:33.28 | file[laptop] | in theory this 4th kernel build *should* work |
| 21:33.33 | file[laptop] | then again, I've said it for the three before this |
| 21:34.08 | ChipX86 | do you use the auto-generate for names? |
| 21:35.45 | gonkulator | this is a great movie |
| 21:36.19 | zak | waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa |
| 21:36.36 | purple_cow | soo, scanline |
| 21:36.37 | zak | lurgy: how do you look at a differential equation and describe the motion? |
| 21:36.49 | purple_cow | when you suggested we work out language semantics |
| 21:36.57 | purple_cow | how do you suggest we write it down? |
| 21:44.09 | gonkulator | wow, my taste in movies has really changed |
| 21:44.20 | ChipX86 | mine's exactly the same as it was yesterday |
| 21:44.33 | ChipX86 | which? |
| 21:44.37 | gonkulator | I am david |
| 21:44.49 | ChipX86 | I am christian. What are you watching? |
| 21:45.00 | gonkulator | _I am David_ |
| 21:45.07 | gonkulator | er... nuts |
| 21:45.10 | ChipX86 | which is? |
| 21:45.17 | gonkulator | thats the name of the movie :) |
| 21:45.20 | ChipX86 | right |
| 21:45.22 | ChipX86 | what is the movie? |
| 21:45.25 | ChipX86 | what's it about? |
| 21:45.31 | lurgy | zak: me personally? |
| 21:45.37 | lurgy | oh, she left.. |
| 21:45.46 | gonkulator | its the story of a kid who escaped from one of the soviet work camps |
| 21:45.54 | ChipX86 | I find this weird.. I'm starting to hit enter before I type anything on IRC now |
| 21:45.55 | gonkulator | and has to get to denmark |
| 21:45.57 | lurgy | hurray work camps |
| 21:46.30 | gonkulator | he doesn't understand why denmark is where he needs to go |
| 21:46.37 | gonkulator | but he *has* to get there |
| 21:46.52 | kergoth | nullpuppy: ping |
| 21:48.47 | ChipX86 | meh, there's no UINT, POINTER marshaller in gtk |
| 21:48.49 | ChipX86 | got to make my own |
| 21:49.21 | gonkulator | kergoth: Destination Geek Unreachable |
| 21:49.26 | kergoth | :( |
| 21:49.43 | merlin262 | so kergoth, why'd you quit your TI job? |
| 21:50.03 | kergoth | just unhappy and unproductive. it was only a matter of time before i lost it anyway |
| 21:50.12 | kergoth | the job just wasnt a good fit for me |
| 21:50.47 | kergoth | merlin262: heh, you and me both |
| 21:52.28 | file[laptop] | okay |
| 21:52.32 | file[laptop] | onto... build 5! |
| 21:52.46 | file[laptop] | or is it 6? |
| 21:52.47 | ChipX86 | :P |
| 21:52.49 | gonkulator | perpendicular song? |
| 21:52.52 | file[laptop] | nah, 5 |
| 21:53.54 | lurgy | yay, at last i have a history paper topic |
| 21:54.08 | lurgy | take *that*, lack of ideas |
| 21:54.10 | purple_cow | which is? |
| 21:55.11 | lurgy | similar subject matter, but almost completely opposite in every other respect ;) |
| 21:55.36 | lurgy | and it will have an incredibly arbitrary and BSey title |
| 21:55.37 | lurgy | like |
| 21:57.50 | gonkulator | wow, what an incredible ending |
| 21:58.57 | lurgy | "the advancement of mid-20th century polish sonorism shown in retrospective world war II works" |
| 21:59.16 | purple_cow | hahahaha |
| 22:00.27 | merlin262 | well, I'm off for a while |
| 22:00.28 | merlin262 | bbiab |
| 22:00.52 | purple_cow | gonkulator: fear is the wrong response, dude |
| 22:01.12 | lurgy | eek! |
| 22:01.15 | lurgy | orthogonality! |
| 22:01.22 | lurgy | hmm |
| 22:01.45 | lurgy | i might try to work some lutoslawski in there too |
| 22:01.53 | lurgy | just so i don't have to get too specific about anything :P |
| 22:01.57 | lurgy | work a bit of the political angle |
| 22:02.31 | lurgy | heheh, this paper should work out pretty nicely |
| 22:02.32 | lurgy | ok |
| 22:04.32 | lurgy | there are too many small words in that title |
| 22:04.36 | lurgy | perhaps something more like |
| 22:05.09 | gonkulator | http://www.homestarrunner.com/sbemail125.html <--- almost as cool as the hitachi video |
| 22:06.02 | lurgy | "world war II retrospective as reflections of the development of soviet-era polish sonorism, culture and politics" |
| 22:06.17 | lurgy | if *that* doesn't sound like a historical musicology paper title i don't know what does |
| 22:06.26 | lurgy | s/retrospective/retrospectives/ |
| 22:09.47 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03darkstar62 * r7789 10fyre/src/ (4 files): Support for multiple documents is implemented, including new documents and saving all changes at exit. |
| 22:13.35 | purple_cow | slimspace: uhh, svn up your glade flie :P |
| 22:13.51 | slimspace | oh, hehe |
| 22:13.51 | slimspace | oops |
| 22:16.28 | file[laptop] | so even with this specific kernel I still can't get this DOC working |
| 22:19.45 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03darkstar62 * r7790 10fyre/ (data/pipeline-editor.glade src/PipelineEditor.cs): Add a new Close menu entry, and fix the menu_save widget to be right |
| 22:21.22 | ChipX86 | nullpuppy: ping |
| 22:21.43 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r7791 10fyre/src/PipelineEditor.cs: fix a small handle of formatting and style nitpicks to keep us consistent |
| 22:22.04 | purple_cow | urgh |
| 22:22.06 | purple_cow | he wants use cases |
| 22:22.16 | slimspace | ugh... |
| 22:28.28 | scanline | sure you can write use cases for buildng pipelines, broken down into small steps? things like placing new elements, connecting them, disconnecting them... |
| 22:28.59 | purple_cow | i suppose |
| 22:29.09 | purple_cow | that's a really crappy way to represent the functionality of something like this |
| 22:29.12 | scanline | uhhuh |
| 22:29.53 | slimspace | so this thing isn't due until the 26th? |
| 22:30.42 | slimspace | we could email him our reasoning beforehand and see what he says |
| 22:30.59 | purple_cow | probably a better idea ;) |
| 22:31.08 | scanline | I don't see how use cases are all that bad for something like this |
| 22:31.09 | slimspace | less risk to our grade that way |
| 22:31.26 | slimspace | I don't either, they're just more specific cases |
| 22:31.40 | purple_cow | scanline: it's just that any use cases we write will basically just be explaining UI |
| 22:32.24 | purple_cow | maybe we could define functionality in terms of some example pipelines that the user could draw, and write out use cases for parts of those (like editing an Equation element) when necessary |
| 22:32.48 | ChipX86 | hurray for my brother poking fun at Microsoft |
| 22:32.49 | ChipX86 | http://nanobox.chipx86.com/misc/greattusk.jpg |
| 22:33.40 | purple_cow | hmm, great tusk |
| 22:35.15 | *** join/#tacobeam laodamas (~cehoward@c-67-166-53-18.hsd1.co.comcast.net) |
| 22:35.30 | gonkulator | howdy laodamas |
| 22:36.02 | laodamas | hello gonkulator |
| 22:36.46 | laodamas | contentless site at http://kersplody.com |
| 22:38.02 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r7792 10fyre/doc/CRC: add a mostly empty file with the info we're supposed to have on the CRC cards |
| 22:38.17 | laodamas | I'm too lazy to make it work on the broken CSS of IE |
| 22:38.55 | gonkulator | laodamas: asdsadfdsasd iousdhafiuasdhfkjl kljsdahfka jlsdjkdsfh askljasd sdkj sadjklf has kasdjs dkjhk kj asdkjf haskjsd fskjdf hsakjdf hsakjfsdhasd kjasdkfjl shdfk jahs!! |
| 22:40.42 | kergoth | nullpuppy: ping :) |
| 22:41.00 | gonkulator | kergoth: Destination Geek Unreachable |
| 22:42.16 | file[laptop] | or am I really file[laptop]? |
| 22:52.34 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03darkstar62 * r7793 10fyre/src/ (Dialogs.cs PipelineEditor.cs): Fix a crash from trying to display the plugin error dialog before Gtk.Application.Init() was called |
| 22:52.43 | scanline | slimspace: I suppose rex is still down? :P |
| 22:53.04 | scanline | if so, what do I need to do to finish moving it to the new machine? |
| 22:53.15 | slimspace | scanline: yeah. It finished copying on Friday night, but I didn't have time to get the hardware up and running |
| 22:53.29 | scanline | ok. I suppose I'll head over to SG and do that now, since I do need it |
| 22:53.39 | slimspace | scanline: as it stands, it boots off the new drive. All you need to do is get the nForce drivers installed for the hardware. |
| 22:53.49 | scanline | mmkay |
| 22:56.25 | gonkulator | ugh |
| 22:56.31 | gonkulator | time to get the heck away from the computer |
| 22:56.43 | slimspace | it's gonna blow! |
| 22:56.53 | gonkulator | yeah |
| 23:00.35 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r7794 10fyre/doc/uml.zargo: start adding the Pad hierarchy |
| 23:04.22 | slimspace | it'd be awfully nice to get rid of those toolbar API errors on startup... |
| 23:04.45 | purple_cow | toolbar API errors? |
| 23:04.58 | slimspace | (<unknown>:5020): Gtk-WARNING **: Mixing deprecated and non-deprecated GtkToolbar API is not allowed |
| 23:05.15 | purple_cow | heh |
| 23:05.29 | slimspace | hmm...what version of glade are you using? |
| 23:08.47 | purple_cow | glade 2.6.8, libglade 2.5.1 |
| 23:09.07 | slimspace | ah, ok...my libglade is 2.4.0 |
| 23:09.19 | purple_cow | hmm, i think i'm only on glade-sharp 1.0 though, should probably unmask that |
| 23:14.29 | slimspace | hey, the errors are gone! |
| 23:15.39 | gonkulator | whoa, gmail does html mail composing now |
| 23:16.22 | file[laptop] | gonkulator: you've missed some fun stuff! |
| 23:17.27 | gonkulator | yeah |
| 23:18.00 | gonkulator | and on that note, I take off, because my endurance for computers hit the crapper |
| 23:18.22 | file[laptop] | :( |
| 23:23.56 | gonkulator | yay carrier pidgeon |
| 23:25.43 | *** join/#tacobeam StrFox (~MGetz@c-24-9-63-247.hsd1.co.comcast.net) |
| 23:28.02 | gonkulator | oh no, not StrFox |
| 23:28.19 | StrFox | ? |
| 23:28.40 | scanline | blah! I can't get into spacegrant |
| 23:29.22 | StrFox | scanline: have you seen zak or Laser_Dolphin? |
| 23:29.29 | scanline | not since last night |
| 23:30.54 | StrFox | scanline: no matter, do you know how to watercool for cheap? |
| 23:30.58 | scanline | pff |
| 23:32.55 | StrFox | ? |
| 23:33.02 | laodamas | liquid helium cooling is much more interesing |
| 23:33.06 | gonkulator | yeah |
| 23:33.10 | gonkulator | not cheap, but good! |
| 23:33.55 | StrFox | That it is but my budget is not in the 10^5 grand range |
| 23:34.13 | gonkulator | hmm... |
| 23:35.22 | StrFox | and thats what Liquid Nitro costs |
| 23:35.56 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03darkstar62 * r7795 10fyre/src/PipelineEditor.cs: Make filename behavior a little more sane where save dialogs are concerned |
| 23:44.55 | slimspace | no more work on fyre for me today |
| 23:47.04 | scanline | ooooooooooh |
| 23:50.15 | scanline | sweeeeet |
| 23:50.20 | scanline | this chip is exactly what I want, it seems |
| 23:50.24 | scanline | really fucking expensive |
| 23:50.28 | scanline | but who cares, with free samples |
| 23:50.49 | scanline | the hardest problem with this will be figuring out how to interface it with everything else |
