| 00:13.31 | KeyserLaptop | seems like a company with sufficient resources could put out a linux distro as polished and user friendly as WinXP and OS X |
| 00:13.50 | KeyserLaptop | well, if they bundled it with hardware they sell, anyway |
| 00:15.25 | KeyserLaptop | i've had flawless samba performance on several different machines in the past, and i still have all the config files.... |
| 00:26.47 | Sophie_lawn | http://www.deviantart.com/view/13935793/ |
| 00:29.34 | kergoth | 19:27 < gb2> 2. I am familiar with gcc-2.95 et al, up to gcc-3.0. I was unaware of |
| 00:29.37 | kergoth | 19:27 < gb2> gcc-3.4, which seems odd, because I downloaded debian 3.0r4 the other day, |
| 00:29.40 | kergoth | 19:27 < gb2> and gcc-3.0 was the native compiler. Can you please explain? |
| 00:29.53 | KeyserLaptop | lol |
| 00:30.18 | kergoth | 19:27 < gb2> i just read more of that funny email i got about gcc-f77 this morning |
| 00:30.21 | kergoth | 19:29 < gb2> he found me as a maintainer for the ipkg "gcc-f77" at "<ipkgfind.handhelds.org>" he said |
| 00:30.24 | kergoth | heh |
| 00:30.25 | kergoth | scary |
| 00:32.48 | KeyserLaptop | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:33.10 | kergoth | hah |
| 00:44.25 | orchid | Sophie_: thats pretty |
| 00:46.57 | KeyserLaptop | this is a really cool computer: http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS3619879482.html |
| 00:48.14 | KeyserLaptop | a 333MHz MIPS processor, 16MB flash, 64MB RAM, 10/100 ethernet, Compact flash AC97 audio, serial port, and vga port, all in 2.05"x2.05"x1.77" |
| 00:52.29 | KeyserLaptop | if i had a business, i'd buy those for everyone to use as desktop computers |
| 00:52.59 | orchid | http://linuxdevices.com/files/misc/personal_media_cd_teacube-sm.jpg |
| 00:53.09 | orchid | its tiny! |
| 00:54.28 | KeyserLaptop | it's barely big enough to have enough surface area for it's connectors |
| 00:56.41 | *** join/#tacobeam lalo (~lalo@211.99.140.115) |
| 01:04.41 | zak | wiggle |
| 01:23.24 | KeyserLaptop | NO! |
| 01:23.26 | KeyserLaptop | bad Sophie_ |
| 01:23.43 | KeyserLaptop | is that a line from Fight Club? |
| 01:24.11 | Sophie_ | no. |
| 01:24.33 | Sophie_ | you clearly don't know your fight club. It's lamentable. |
| 01:25.48 | KeyserLaptop | no!! those are to be kept by ToyKeeper! |
| 01:26.07 | zak | they come in pairs these days |
| 01:26.25 | KeyserLaptop | i've got Sophie_'s nose! |
| 01:26.45 | KeyserLaptop | i've got Sophie_'s thumb! |
| 01:27.11 | Sophie_ | pfft. I haven't fallen for that one in MONTHS. |
| 01:27.25 | zak | Sophie_: you have something on your shirt :P |
| 01:28.09 | Sophie_ | doh! |
| 01:28.23 | KeyserLaptop | hehe. didn't see that one coming |
| 01:28.35 | zak | no one has ever done that to you? |
| 01:28.46 | zak | wow. people have been doing that to me since i was a kid |
| 01:29.18 | Sophie_ | well, I'll never fall for that again, I'll tell you what. |
| 01:29.35 | zak | and we aren't even in the same state! bwahaha! |
| 01:29.43 | KeyserLaptop | that was some lob |
| 01:29.48 | CIA-8 | navi-misc: 03fibonaci * r7475 10music/palmer-piano_concerto/01_allegro_ma_non_troppo/piano.ly: Did the next part of section six... whew. |
| 01:29.58 | zak | aren't you eating some polish guy? |
| 01:30.07 | KeyserLaptop | Sophie_ ought to go out for the east german women's scimatar lobbing team |
| 01:30.09 | Sophie_ | lobbing is something of a talent of mine |
| 01:30.27 | KeyserLaptop | zak: no, it's actually non-human meat in the sausage |
| 01:30.29 | KeyserLaptop | i think |
| 01:30.38 | KeyserLaptop | who really knows what goes into a sausage? |
| 01:30.53 | KeyserLaptop | says on the package: "only the finest snouts and hooves" |
| 01:31.26 | zak | and it's a long ways to walk |
| 01:32.10 | *** topic/#tacobeam by zak -> no capers! |
| 01:32.15 | Sophie_ | suckah, it's an exploding scimitar. |
| 01:32.43 | zak | *POOF* |
| 01:32.51 | zak | damn. no warning label. |
| 01:33.30 | zak | (would you believe i have never read it?) |
| 01:33.47 | scanline | oh no, lookit all these broken rubber bands |
| 01:34.20 | zak | KeyserLaptop: really? |
| 01:34.29 | zak | you have never heard of the wheel of time series? |
| 01:34.30 | zak | wow |
| 01:34.33 | kergoth | eye of hte world is the first book in robert jordan's wheel of time series |
| 01:34.35 | kergoth | great book |
| 01:34.47 | zak | but it already exploded. |
| 01:34.50 | KeyserLaptop | michael jordan's dad wrote a book? |
| 01:34.50 | zak | see above |
| 01:34.56 | zak | ehhehe |
| 01:34.58 | zak | umm...no |
| 01:35.04 | KeyserLaptop | how could an exploding scimitar have exploded? |
| 01:35.06 | Sophie_ | fantasy or scifi? |
| 01:35.09 | kergoth | fantasy |
| 01:35.13 | zak | fantasy |
| 01:35.18 | Sophie_ | Oh. |
| 01:35.24 | KeyserLaptop | obviously if it's an exploding scimitar, it's in the process of exploding, and not already exploded |
| 01:35.33 | Sophie_ | only fantasy books I've read are Xanth. |
| 01:35.41 | zak | it's kinda like star wars (when it was good) meets LOTR |
| 01:35.43 | kergoth | i've never read xanth |
| 01:35.49 | Sophie_ | they were pretty bad, actually. |
| 01:35.59 | zak | KeyserLaptop: is it a zim style explosion? |
| 01:36.18 | kergoth | eep |
| 01:36.20 | zak | where it will take a reeeeeallly long time to finish kersplodying |
| 01:36.28 | zak | KeyserLaptop: get out of yer damn box! |
| 01:36.35 | zak | :) |
| 01:36.49 | file[laptop] | zak: Life is a mystery! |
| 01:36.58 | Sophie_ | everyone must stand alone.. |
| 01:37.10 | Sophie_ | I hear you call my name o?~ |
| 01:37.20 | KeyserLaptop | YALP!!! |
| 01:37.21 | zak | not if you are schizophrenic? |
| 01:37.36 | Sophie_ | and it feels like...home |
| 01:38.01 | zak | at the same time!!! |
| 01:38.10 | zak | (mind warp in progress...please hold) |
| 01:38.15 | file[laptop] | darn on hold |
| 01:39.17 | zak | KeyserLaptop: we have lotza zim on navi |
| 01:39.26 | zak | scanline: have you eated? |
| 01:39.27 | KeyserLaptop | is it anime? |
| 01:39.32 | zak | KeyserLaptop: no |
| 01:39.41 | zak | cancelled nick caton |
| 01:39.48 | zak | s/caton/cartoon |
| 01:40.15 | kergoth | Sophie_: hehe, i did that. was a pain. i started the ripping in ogg, then they said the initial rips had to be aps or apx mp3, despite the ogg in the standard. so i had to start over :( |
| 01:40.21 | Sophie_ | nick as in Nickolodeon? |
| 01:40.27 | kergoth | bastards |
| 01:40.34 | zak | si |
| 01:40.47 | KeyserLaptop | does si mean yes? |
| 01:40.50 | scanline | zak: nope |
| 01:41.06 | zak | scanline: wanna watch somethin and eat stuff? |
| 01:41.10 | Sophie_ | that would suck a lot. |
| 01:41.26 | KeyserLaptop | (you're supposed to answer "si", which is the correct answer, whether "si" means yes or no, hence the humour) |
| 01:41.29 | Sophie_ | took me like a week to rip the albums |
| 01:41.32 | scanline | zak: eat what? |
| 01:43.58 | file[laptop] | yay Tori Amos |
| 01:45.01 | Sophie_ | the Beekeeper? |
| 01:45.22 | file[laptop] | lurgy: they like you |
| 01:45.43 | KeyserLaptop | is that chorizo? |
| 01:46.49 | KeyserLaptop | i don't think chorizo is usually made in a loaf like spam and greek spam, but that's the closest spanish food i can think of |
| 01:48.52 | zak | scanline can eat whatever he wants...but if he wants to watch something...he should suggest it or come over\ |
| 01:49.17 | zak | lurgy: tell your friend i am sorry...i thoughted it was rich :P |
| 01:57.28 | pagefault_ | cool |
| 01:57.30 | pagefault_ | another WoW patch |
| 01:57.36 | pagefault_ | so much for getting work done |
| 01:58.24 | lurgy | zak: :) |
| 02:02.10 | pagefault_ | ok so like I converted someone else to linux today |
| 02:02.13 | pagefault_ | :P |
| 02:02.29 | file[laptop] | excellent |
| 02:02.56 | pagefault_ | I much like the speedstep applet for gnome |
| 02:03.02 | pagefault_ | tells you the realtime mhz |
| 02:09.11 | pagefault_ | bah |
| 02:09.11 | pagefault_ | ok |
| 02:09.27 | pagefault_ | so |
| 02:09.29 | pagefault_ | I got my battery |
| 02:09.40 | pagefault_ | yet my invoice came yesterday |
| 02:09.46 | pagefault_ | yay for dell |
| 02:09.52 | file[laptop] | yay! |
| 02:09.55 | KeyserLaptop | who'd you convert to linux, and how, and what distro? |
| 02:10.02 | file[laptop] | ten bucks says Ubuntu |
| 02:10.06 | pagefault_ | my best friend |
| 02:10.16 | pagefault_ | him being pissed off by windows |
| 02:10.20 | pagefault_ | and ubuntu |
| 02:10.22 | pagefault_ | :) |
| 02:10.32 | file[laptop] | I'm psychic |
| 02:10.39 | pagefault_ | it's very nice |
| 02:10.50 | pagefault_ | hoary has a sazzy update application |
| 02:10.50 | file[laptop] | I'm a pure Debian guy |
| 02:10.55 | pagefault_ | err snazzy |
| 02:10.56 | CIA-8 | navi-misc: 03fibonaci * r7476 10music/palmer-piano_concerto/01_allegro_ma_non_troppo/piano.ly: Five more (complex) measures. |
| 02:11.14 | KeyserLaptop | err whorey |
| 02:11.32 | pagefault_ | i'd use debian |
| 02:11.36 | pagefault_ | but I like my stuff updated :) |
| 02:12.09 | file[laptop] | the 64-bit build gets updated alot... |
| 02:12.19 | file[laptop] | so much that when I came back I had ALOT to upgrade |
| 02:12.26 | pagefault_ | cool |
| 02:12.29 | file[laptop] | because I forgot to setup a cronjob |
| 02:12.30 | pagefault_ | cool |
| 02:12.48 | file[laptop] | pagefault_: apartment hunting Monday! |
| 02:14.16 | pagefault_ | moving out? |
| 02:14.24 | file[laptop] | yes |
| 02:14.28 | pagefault_ | fun |
| 02:14.33 | pagefault_ | wild parties |
| 02:14.35 | file[laptop] | hehe |
| 02:15.41 | file[laptop] | going to a small town called Sackville |
| 02:15.51 | Sophie_ | Sackville? |
| 02:15.55 | Sophie_ | adorable. |
| 02:16.03 | file[laptop] | http://www.sackville.com/ |
| 02:16.08 | KeyserLaptop | i always walk around carrying two sacks in my hands |
| 02:16.19 | KeyserLaptop | that way if anyone asks if i can help them carry something... |
| 02:16.28 | KeyserLaptop | i can say, "sorry, got these sacks" |
| 02:19.01 | file[laptop] | ya know I haven't gotten a Tigerdirect flyer in awhile, how sad |
| 02:22.22 | pagefault_ | holy crap |
| 02:22.26 | pagefault_ | I can bundle my prepaid phone with my internet |
| 02:22.31 | pagefault_ | I must do |
| 02:23.39 | file[laptop] | you MUST! |
| 02:23.52 | pagefault_ | well this is new |
| 02:23.56 | pagefault_ | it used to be on contract |
| 02:23.57 | file[laptop] | pagefault_: I found the company I'm gonna use in Sackville for internet/phone/cable |
| 02:24.11 | file[laptop] | $100/mth for 5Mbps net, phone, plus digital cable |
| 02:24.19 | pagefault_ | sackville, what a name |
| 02:24.26 | file[laptop] | ...yeah |
| 02:24.31 | file[laptop] | http://www.eastlink.ca |
| 02:24.37 | pagefault_ | nice |
| 02:24.47 | file[laptop] | waiting for an e-mail back regarding some questions |
| 02:24.53 | file[laptop] | and they just use nifty DHCP, which makes me happy |
| 02:25.00 | pagefault_ | do they do caps? |
| 02:25.06 | file[laptop] | that's what I e-mailed about and stuff |
| 02:25.09 | file[laptop] | also about their upstream |
| 02:25.32 | file[laptop] | and VoIP... and QoS... and other stuff I think |
| 02:25.35 | pagefault_ | ahh |
| 02:25.41 | file[laptop] | filtered ports was another |
| 02:25.48 | pagefault_ | probably the default SMTP |
| 02:26.12 | pagefault_ | which doesn't bother me that much |
| 02:26.22 | pagefault_ | since sympatico's smtp lets me use anything as the source e-mail |
| 02:26.28 | file[laptop] | as for phone I can just get a Sipura SPA-3000 VoIP adapter and have it directed to my PBX |
| 02:26.34 | file[laptop] | and have local calls go out it |
| 02:26.42 | pagefault_ | interesting |
| 02:26.45 | pagefault_ | plus your cell |
| 02:26.58 | file[laptop] | Eastlink has a deal with Rogers, 15% off your monthly fees |
| 02:27.06 | pagefault_ | evil rogers |
| 02:27.15 | file[laptop] | haha |
| 02:27.29 | pagefault_ | they claim timeshifting and digital cable for $24 a month here |
| 02:27.34 | pagefault_ | but it's only partial time shifting |
| 02:27.42 | file[laptop] | "partial" haha |
| 02:27.56 | pagefault_ | you pay extra for things like comedy west and the american networks |
| 02:28.17 | pagefault_ | expressvu gives you everything |
| 02:28.39 | pagefault_ | oh yeah |
| 02:28.48 | pagefault_ | they fail to mention timeshifting doesn't include their HDTV package |
| 02:28.56 | pagefault_ | so you pay $17 a month for about 12 HD channels |
| 02:29.04 | pagefault_ | the extra timeshifted HD channels are more |
| 02:30.14 | pagefault_ | hmm |
| 02:30.19 | pagefault_ | I think bell just did an upgrade in my area |
| 02:30.29 | file[laptop] | why do you think that now? |
| 02:30.29 | pagefault_ | I had zero signal for like a while |
| 02:30.33 | pagefault_ | now I have perfect |
| 02:30.36 | file[laptop] | for what |
| 02:30.39 | pagefault_ | my cell |
| 02:30.42 | file[laptop] | ah |
| 02:30.44 | pagefault_ | and I am in my basement |
| 02:34.48 | pagefault_ | no signal again |
| 02:34.53 | pagefault_ | must be those solar flares |
| 02:35.28 | file[laptop] | yup |
| 02:40.15 | ChipX86 | *sigh* |
| 02:40.19 | ChipX86 | Chico State is on slashdot |
| 02:48.28 | zak | no! |
| 02:48.31 | zak | stay away! |
| 02:48.46 | slimspace | but...oh... |
| 02:49.08 | zak | and so type happy |
| 02:49.41 | zak | did i say you could come back yet? |
| 02:49.44 | zak | :) |
| 02:54.18 | slimspace | yay for keeping mail and documents in subversion |
| 02:54.56 | scanline | documents I can understand.. but mail? |
| 02:55.04 | scanline | maildir or mbox? |
| 02:55.14 | slimspace | evolution mail and tasks and stuff |
| 02:55.18 | slimspace | mainly for keeping my computers in sync |
| 02:55.26 | numist | guh |
| 02:56.30 | slimspace | scanline: so as of earlier today, our flight software is systems certified |
| 02:57.06 | *** join/#tacobeam cwisty (~default@p10.n-nypop07.stsn.com) |
| 02:57.18 | scanline | slimspace: what does that mean, if anything? |
| 02:57.20 | scanline | hi cwisty |
| 02:58.00 | slimspace | scanline: it means software passed the complete testing procedure for working with the satellite |
| 02:58.19 | scanline | how complete is that? |
| 02:58.43 | slimspace | complete enough to involve talking with all the micros, getting sensor scans, toggling relays, and controling the ADCS actuators |
| 02:58.43 | scanline | and how can it be complete? there are still major areas of functionality it doesn't have |
| 02:58.47 | cwisty | hello all |
| 02:59.10 | slimspace | well, complete as in first stage testing |
| 02:59.15 | scanline | ok |
| 02:59.23 | slimspace | this doesn't include any of the data logging, or constraints |
| 02:59.32 | slimspace | this was a basic software works with hardware test. |
| 02:59.40 | scanline | or any real algorithms for ADCS or scienc |
| 02:59.44 | slimspace | yeah |
| 02:59.49 | Sophie_ | http://home.earthlink.net/~ggazic/data/Feeder%20-%20Frequency.m4a |
| 02:59.58 | scanline | slimspace: it's cool, it's just misleading to say anything involving "complete" or "certified" :) |
| 03:00.16 | slimspace | well, that's their word for it |
| 03:00.19 | ChipX86 | heading out soon, but I *really* need to tell you guys about the new VMware building they demo'd :) |
| 03:00.35 | slimspace | I'm just glad we're to the point that we can start having testing procedures that involve the flight software now. |
| 03:01.00 | numist | damn you chip |
| 03:01.06 | ChipX86 | http://www.mcdonoughpartners.com/ |
| 03:01.10 | ChipX86 | they're making it |
| 03:01.21 | scanline | slimspace: not saying it's your fault, just that spacegrant in general has a lot of misleading uses for "done" or "complete" |
| 03:01.21 | ChipX86 | the guy who runs the place was here. I got to talk to him and our CEO a bit about the place |
| 03:01.33 | numist | damn you chip |
| 03:01.36 | slimspace | scanline: :) |
| 03:01.40 | ChipX86 | their big thing is making the buildings fit into nature |
| 03:01.40 | numist | at risk of repeating myself |
| 03:01.49 | ChipX86 | he said it will feel like we're living in a forest |
| 03:01.55 | slimspace | scanline: biggest thing is that it means I don't have to come in for testing on Thursday. |
| 03:01.57 | ChipX86 | we'll have a grove |
| 03:02.05 | ChipX86 | playing field for sports |
| 03:02.12 | ChipX86 | fountains, waterfalls |
| 03:02.14 | ChipX86 | bridges |
| 03:02.21 | ChipX86 | hundreds and hundreds of trees everywhere |
| 03:02.29 | ChipX86 | even inside |
| 03:02.33 | ChipX86 | every room has light |
| 03:02.36 | ChipX86 | that is, natural light |
| 03:02.36 | numist | grr |
| 03:02.38 | ChipX86 | most have windows |
| 03:02.40 | ChipX86 | skylights |
| 03:02.45 | scanline | sweet |
| 03:02.48 | ChipX86 | grass and plants on the roof |
| 03:03.03 | Sophie_ | hmm, utopia. |
| 03:03.16 | ChipX86 | the buildings are designed to have a lot of corner offices |
| 03:04.31 | ChipX86 | it's set up so that they can more or less control the wind flow |
| 03:04.31 | ChipX86 | and we'll get natural air in the offices |
| 03:04.33 | ChipX86 | we have an indoor gardenyish area in each building |
| 03:04.38 | ChipX86 | or we will anywya |
| 03:04.47 | numist | ... |
| 03:05.11 | *** join/#tacobeam JeffM2501 (~jeffm@69.111.152.227) |
| 03:05.50 | Sophie_ | you're a lucky guy ChipX86. |
| 03:05.53 | ChipX86 | I'm kind of disappointed a little bit I guess |
| 03:06.10 | scanline | #%@#^%^ |
| 03:06.11 | ChipX86 | they won't be setting it up so we can easily get to the roof, and there's not as much fountains and waterfalls as I want |
| 03:06.16 | scanline | I shouldn't even bother responding to this guy |
| 03:06.17 | ChipX86 | but it sounds really nice |
| 03:06.19 | ChipX86 | scanline: ? |
| 03:06.21 | ChipX86 | Sophie_: :) |
| 03:06.26 | scanline | or maybe a simple RTFM |
| 03:06.41 | scanline | ChipX86: so some guy sees my name in the uinput kernel module source I assume, and he's asking me all these dumb questions |
| 03:07.43 | scanline | he asked me to explain all the constants in input.h, and to look over some lircd source he attached :P |
| 03:07.47 | ChipX86 | hah. |
| 03:07.49 | numist | ChipX86: are you nuts? your getting a new building with fountains and indoor trees and lighting and wind and your not happy? |
| 03:08.26 | scanline | eek |
| 03:08.38 | scanline | this paper I'm supposed to be writing was accepted to the AIAA/USU conference on small satellites |
| 03:08.53 | ChipX86 | numist: I'm happy :) |
| 03:09.01 | numist | good |
| 03:09.02 | ChipX86 | yay for working in a forest! |
| 03:09.12 | scanline | oh, hmm... |
| 03:09.19 | ChipX86 | no ugly parking lot. It'll be covered in trees and the cars will fade away |
| 03:09.19 | scanline | this is another reason to stay in colorado for a couple months |
| 03:09.23 | numist | heh |
| 03:09.24 | scanline | this paper presentation will be in Auguest |
| 03:09.27 | scanline | er, August |
| 03:09.43 | numist | ChipX86: are you that much of a nature guy that you dont have a car or sommat? |
| 03:09.45 | scanline | slimspace: did you get this email too, or should I forward it? |
| 03:10.14 | ChipX86 | the guy said if you look up, you'll see tall trees and a bridge between buildings (oh yeah, we'll have bridges between buildings) |
| 03:10.18 | ChipX86 | numist: I'm a nature guy? |
| 03:10.22 | ChipX86 | because I like trees and water? |
| 03:10.31 | slimspace | hmm...didn't get it |
| 03:11.15 | scanline | where you want me to send it? |
| 03:11.15 | numist | ChipX86: dunno, sounded a bit liberal for me when you were talking about the parking lot :P |
| 03:11.26 | purple_cow | scanline: when in august? |
| 03:11.27 | slimspace | any of my colorado account or my navi account |
| 03:11.40 | scanline | "August 8-11, 2005: 19th Annual AIAA/USU Conference on Small Satellites" |
| 03:11.47 | scanline | slimspace: gimme an address :P |
| 03:11.47 | ChipX86 | numist: I'm not designing the building |
| 03:11.53 | numist | hehe |
| 03:11.55 | numist | ok ok |
| 03:11.57 | slimspace | scanline: maccarro@colorado.edu |
| 03:11.57 | ChipX86 | but there's absolutely nothing wrong with liking nature :P |
| 03:12.08 | scanline | slimspace: sent |
| 03:12.10 | hardwire | I love will and grace. |
| 03:12.11 | Sophie_ | some people like to look at parking lots |
| 03:12.14 | ChipX86 | it's far better than a bunch of ugly concrete walls and asphault (sp?) |
| 03:12.15 | slimspace | cool |
| 03:12.17 | hardwire | ChipX86: there is if your 'licking' vs 'liking' |
| 03:12.25 | Sophie_ | there's something wrong with those people |
| 03:12.40 | purple_cow | hmm, scanline seems to be completely spazzing with the led flashlight thingie |
| 03:12.46 | ChipX86 | you can look at them, but they'll just be more concealed, and cooled (lots of shade) |
| 03:12.53 | numist | thats always good |
| 03:13.37 | ChipX86 | I'll be hanging out in the grove |
| 03:15.43 | ChipX86 | http://www.mcdonoughpartners.com/projects/indianadunes/default.asp?projID=indianadunes |
| 03:15.47 | ChipX86 | he does things like thagt |
| 03:15.53 | numist | nice |
| 03:16.40 | ChipX86 | oh wow, he did the Computer History Museum here |
| 03:17.57 | pagefault_ | hmm |
| 03:18.00 | pagefault_ | thats new on gmail |
| 03:18.00 | pagefault_ | archive |
| 03:18.07 | pagefault_ | I just archived my entire inbox |
| 03:18.08 | pagefault_ | :) |
| 03:18.11 | ChipX86 | that's not new |
| 03:18.13 | ChipX86 | I've used that from the beginning |
| 03:18.16 | pagefault_ | oh |
| 03:18.19 | pagefault_ | I just noticed it then :P |
| 03:18.24 | ChipX86 | I archive everything after I read it |
| 03:19.59 | ChipX86 | bbl |
| 03:24.14 | zak | scanline: do you know why there is a...computer...broked...in my living room? |
| 03:24.21 | file[laptop] | a likely story |
| 03:24.22 | purple_cow | hehe |
| 03:24.22 | scanline | it's going to be interesting presenting a paper at a real conference... |
| 03:24.29 | scanline | zak: that's dan's, we don't want it either |
| 03:24.36 | lurgy | hehe |
| 03:24.41 | zak | lurgy: make it go away. |
| 03:24.56 | lurgy | ya |
| 03:25.31 | CIA-8 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r7477 10fyre/ (14 files in 6 dirs): rearrange data files like a banshee |
| 03:25.40 | purple_cow | huh |
| 03:25.46 | zak | it can join 90% of our fridge |
| 03:26.18 | zak | or rather.. lurgy does |
| 03:26.19 | scanline | that should come back here.. lurgy forgot to return it |
| 03:26.53 | zak | where lurgy == someone else |
| 03:27.06 | zak | oh no! the lurgy is attacking london! |
| 03:27.37 | zak | lurgy: step one: do something with one of the two computers upstairs... |
| 03:27.45 | zak | step two: do something with the other one |
| 03:27.51 | KeyserLaptop | p'shaw. the lurgy is no where near london, and nobody could lob a scimitar far enough to attack london except Sophie_ |
| 03:28.04 | zak | heh |
| 03:28.23 | Sophie_ | I'm ok with London. |
| 03:28.30 | Sophie_ | (for now) |
| 03:28.44 | zak | or honestly london either...beyond the brief...and now exhausted...goon show reference |
| 03:28.56 | zak | need. motivation. |
| 03:28.59 | KeyserLaptop | how else could you attack someone/where from a distance, without a long-range inter-continental ballistic scimitar? |
| 03:29.22 | Sophie_ | it's really the best way. |
| 03:29.23 | zak | a long-range inter-continental ballistic water balloon |
| 03:29.38 | Sophie_ | not as pointy. |
| 03:29.39 | zak | with a cloaking device...no warning |
| 03:29.49 | KeyserLaptop | it'd never survive re-entry |
| 03:29.55 | zak | just walking along and suddenly you're soaked |
| 03:29.58 | KeyserLaptop | unless perhaps it was frozen..... |
| 03:30.06 | Sophie_ | less formal elegance, too. |
| 03:30.14 | KeyserLaptop | or encased in depleted uranium |
| 03:30.16 | zak | poisoned dart |
| 03:30.27 | zak | frozon monkey |
| 03:30.41 | zak | frozen scanline holding a poison dart and a water balloon |
| 03:30.47 | Sophie_ | depends on the type of monkey |
| 03:31.06 | zak | and the type of scanline (he comes in 6 packs) |
| 03:31.30 | Sophie_ | I say the irritated scanline |
| 03:31.32 | purple_cow | hmm, so svn has the latest code, but the dnd stuff isn't working on bhaskara |
| 03:31.36 | Sophie_ | would make the better weapon |
| 03:32.05 | scanline | purple_cow: I tried it earlier today and it couldn't find the glade file |
| 03:32.17 | purple_cow | scanline: that's really strange, since the glade file is a resource... |
| 03:32.22 | scanline | yeah |
| 03:32.26 | scanline | and it was compiling in the resource fine |
| 03:33.26 | zak | Sophie_: go for the classics |
| 03:33.47 | zak | girl in love with boy supposed to marry some other fool...gods intervene, competion |
| 03:33.56 | lurgy | Sophie_: go for one of those post-modern roman tragedies |
| 03:33.58 | lurgy | =p |
| 03:34.10 | Sophie_ | lol |
| 03:34.26 | Sophie_ | well, I have a very specific framework I have to follow |
| 03:34.36 | lurgy | warp it! ;) |
| 03:34.39 | zak | girl not told, kills herself because she thinks her true love has left to marry the fool and then the true love wins the gods challenge...and finds his love dead...aww sad |
| 03:34.59 | lurgy | boy doesn't meet girl, boy doesn't lose girl, boy doesn't get back together with girl again |
| 03:35.06 | zak | Sophie_: share! (we can't...*ahem* "help" with out knowing details) |
| 03:35.10 | lurgy | or maybe.. |
| 03:35.10 | Sophie_ | half-divine hero almost killed as baby returns to kingdom of birth and kills father type of deal. |
| 03:35.15 | lurgy | boy doesn't meet girl, boy loses girl, boy doesn't get back together with girl again |
| 03:35.42 | zak | Sophie_: umm...write achilles with different characters |
| 03:36.02 | lurgy | "You've struck him in his George heel!" |
| 03:36.07 | Sophie_ | achilles? |
| 03:36.08 | zak | achilles twin brother uglyclles has a sore thumb.. |
| 03:36.13 | lurgy | hehe |
| 03:36.26 | lurgy | and they can do a song and dance number |
| 03:36.26 | Sophie_ | hmm |
| 03:38.54 | Sophie_ | indeed. That's what makes this assignment so annoying. |
| 03:41.24 | KeyserLaptop | er, interprets as his disgust at their stupidity |
| 03:41.29 | KeyserLaptop | it's a tragic tale |
| 03:41.48 | KeyserLaptop | and then, he doesn't *know* that he makes that face. and says "what? that's just the way my face is" |
| 03:42.17 | KeyserLaptop | and when he says that, he has the same semi-quizical/semi-disgusted look on his face... |
| 03:42.56 | Sophie_ | interesting |
| 03:43.10 | Sophie_ | and then this person is killed? |
| 03:43.23 | Sophie_ | because that's the way tragedies work, you know |
| 03:43.52 | KeyserLaptop | well, he should be killed in a way that focuses on his tragic flaw |
| 03:44.11 | hardwire | Ben Harper. |
| 03:44.13 | scanline | his tragic flaw could be that he's vulnerable to chlorine poisoning |
| 03:44.24 | purple_cow | scanline: hehehe |
| 03:44.38 | KeyserLaptop | like, he goes to help a child cross the street, and looks down at the child wondering why they are going so slow, and the child sees the look on his face and interprets it as disgust at the childs failure to walk fast enough, so the child shoots him |
| 03:44.47 | Sophie_ | what about Ben Harper? |
| 03:45.01 | Sophie_ | he's buds with Jack Johnson. |
| 03:45.18 | scanline | or John Jackson? |
| 03:45.20 | zak | hmm....the story...young farmboy is approached by one of the goddess while doing his chores and is informed that he is not really a farmboy but for sooth (see sounds roman already) is a child of the gods, sent to live on the farm to save his life. the goddess instructs the boy to take up arms and fight to kill the evil monarch of the neighboring kingdom who denies his people the right to learn and after much toil he kills the "evil" king only to discover that |
| 03:45.20 | zak | this king was truly his father and he tears his eyes out and lives the rest of his life in torment for blindly believing the goddess. |
| 03:45.47 | zak | the end. |
| 03:45.58 | KeyserLaptop | zak: you forgot where he has sex with his mom, i think |
| 03:46.15 | KeyserLaptop | and his name is eddy, for short |
| 03:46.21 | zak | hehe |
| 03:46.26 | scanline | :) |
| 03:46.29 | zak | ok... |
| 03:46.44 | Sophie_ | but how did the farmboy come to live on a farm? |
| 03:46.46 | zak | s/denies his people the right to learn/is holding a beautiful maiden hostage |
| 03:46.52 | Sophie_ | instead of in the castle with his folks? |
| 03:47.14 | Sophie_ | maybe a nasty oracle was spreading rumors about him? |
| 03:47.24 | KeyserLaptop | or an orc |
| 03:47.49 | scanline | or orac |
| 03:47.51 | Sophie_ | all maidens were pretty much hostage back then. |
| 03:47.57 | purple_cow | hehe |
| 03:48.04 | zak | his goddess mother knew that if his father knew of the boys existence he would kill him because the king was afraid that if his people knew his only rightful heir was the off spring of him and a goddess (not the queen) hence making said boy a bastard...they would challenge his line |
| 03:49.08 | zak | beautiful maiden is the queen, who is held captive so that she will not tell the king's dreadful secret and so one day she will bear him an actual heir, but she hates him, and hurts him as best as she can...chained up all |
| 03:49.15 | Sophie_ | my hero is a female, actually. |
| 03:49.15 | zak | when he tries |
| 03:49.32 | KeyserLaptop | when he thinks he's helping, he gets really excited, and talks louder/faster than the other people, thereby interrupting them, and making them angry |
| 03:49.40 | Sophie_ | KeyserLaptop: you forgot to mention that he's you? |
| 03:49.46 | zak | heh |
| 03:49.49 | scanline | Sophie_: so for the oedipus thing to work she'll have to be a lesbian? |
| 03:49.50 | zak | ouch. |
| 03:50.02 | Sophie_ | kinda so. |
| 03:50.04 | KeyserLaptop | Sophie_: no, it's a greek tragic hero, not me at all |
| 03:50.18 | Sophie_ | KeyserLaptop: maybe a little? |
| 03:50.38 | KeyserLaptop | oooh |
| 03:50.44 | KeyserLaptop | i always wanted to be a lesbian |
| 03:50.54 | Sophie_ | me too. |
| 03:51.02 | Sophie_ | maybe we could be lesbian lovers |
| 03:51.05 | zak | w00t we scared pagefault_ off |
| 03:51.14 | kergoth | haha, poor pagefault_ |
| 03:51.15 | zak | technically, aren't you already? |
| 03:51.39 | laodamas | moof! |
| 03:51.40 | zak | i am told that all straight male are lesbians trapped in male bodies |
| 03:51.53 | scanline | yep |
| 03:52.03 | scanline | that's the only explanation |
| 03:52.15 | pagefault_ | if wanting to have sex with women makes me a lesbian |
| 03:52.17 | pagefault_ | then sure |
| 03:53.09 | Sophie_ | gay men are cool. I like gay men. |
| 03:53.21 | pagefault_ | they don't like you though |
| 03:53.23 | ChipX86 | all girls do |
| 03:53.25 | ChipX86 | pagefault_: :) |
| 03:53.39 | scanline | grr.. I didn't save that paper I found last night |
| 03:53.40 | KeyserLaptop | sure they like her. just not in that way |
| 03:54.12 | zak | KeyserLaptop: would you beat them up if they did like her that way? |
| 03:54.31 | zak | it is 6 degrees here |
| 03:54.37 | KeyserLaptop | well, it's not quite possible for a gay man to like Sophie_ "that way" |
| 03:54.39 | scanline | 6.9 |
| 03:54.48 | scanline | +/- 2 |
| 03:54.50 | Sophie_ | he's got you there. |
| 03:54.55 | KeyserLaptop | and, /me generally refrains from beating up the guys who do like Sophie_ that way |
| 03:55.06 | scanline | zak: you don't? |
| 03:55.10 | pagefault_ | 6 would still be correct if it was stored in an integer |
| 03:55.15 | scanline | zak: where are you getting it? |
| 03:55.16 | zak | scanline: i don't have the therm applet |
| 03:55.24 | laodamas | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:55.30 | scanline | well, the web page shows it to 1 decimal also |
| 03:55.44 | scanline | ah. good to know our sensor is pretty close to a professional-type one then |
| 03:55.53 | scanline | zak: there's always http://navi.cx/therm/ |
| 03:56.12 | zak | it is also 503 here |
| 03:56.25 | scanline | 503 on what? |
| 03:56.33 | zak | rankine |
| 03:56.44 | scanline | oh |
| 03:56.46 | file[laptop] | 503 Service Unavailable |
| 03:56.59 | file[laptop] | SIP replies are getting to my brain |
| 03:57.15 | hardwire | 404 Unknown! |
| 03:57.19 | scanline | whoa |
| 03:57.21 | scanline | http://navi.cx/therm/source/outside/?details=1#week |
| 03:57.28 | file[laptop] | 404 Not FOund! |
| 03:57.30 | file[laptop] | oof |
| 03:57.30 | scanline | crazy-weird battery response to the temperature change today |
| 03:57.31 | pagefault_ | I wonder if SIP will ever mean Sex over IP in the future |
| 03:57.58 | scanline | I hope not... |
| 03:58.02 | pagefault_ | I am reminded by that futurama episode |
| 03:58.05 | pagefault_ | when they go on the internet |
| 03:58.11 | KeyserLaptop | dude. if people are able to have sex over the internet, they aren't gonna bother wasting time coming up with a fancy name for it |
| 03:58.12 | scanline | if we do end up with some nifty telepresence technology, hopefully the protocol won't be sex-specific |
| 03:58.33 | ChipX86 | scanline: but that's no fun |
| 03:58.34 | zak | pagefault_: that seemed like sure a cool game...but the spam was so scary |
| 03:58.38 | Sophie_ | good god, sex nerds can have. |
| 03:58.44 | scanline | ChipX86: fun, but bad software design ;) |
| 03:58.47 | file[laptop] | that was great english |
| 03:58.50 | ChipX86 | scanline: nope! |
| 03:58.53 | laodamas | s/Rankie/Rankine |
| 03:59.00 | pagefault_ | pagefault_, haha |
| 03:59.07 | scanline | laodamas: the therms are all in celsius, feel free to add that to the applet :P |
| 03:59.23 | pagefault_ | well I am sure the porn industry will be the first to use such a technology |
| 03:59.33 | scanline | first to use it profitably at least |
| 03:59.33 | pagefault_ | as they usually are pioneers of new technology |
| 03:59.42 | pagefault_ | yeah |
| 03:59.55 | ChipX86 | hurray, moron in #vmware |
| 04:00.19 | pagefault_ | it's just funny how in star trek there isn't widespread hollodeck addiction |
| 04:00.25 | pagefault_ | I mean you can do anything you want |
| 04:00.33 | scanline | yeah |
| 04:00.33 | file[laptop] | yay addiction |
| 04:01.06 | scanline | there must be something just fake enough about the holodeck that will make people still interested in reality... |
| 04:01.16 | scanline | the people in there usually aren't that convincing |
| 04:01.18 | pagefault_ | well they refuse to even talk about going to the washroom in star trek |
| 04:01.20 | pagefault_ | so I guess not |
| 04:01.28 | purple_cow | DON'T DATE ROBOTS!!! |
| 04:01.30 | KeyserLaptop | like every 20 minutes a buzzer goes off, and a midget kicks you in the groin? |
| 04:01.32 | scanline | hehe |
| 04:01.34 | zak | what about the bad guy that became real..ish |
| 04:01.37 | laodamas | scanline: then I'll invent my own temperature scale using the frequency of atom vibrations as the the units. |
| 04:01.46 | purple_cow | zak: you mean evil lincoln? |
| 04:01.47 | zak | purple_cow: why not? |
| 04:01.58 | KeyserLaptop | nah, professor moriarty |
| 04:02.03 | zak | purple_cow: no....umm....yea...him |
| 04:02.14 | zak | moriatry |
| 04:02.26 | scanline | laodamas: http://navi.cx/therm/source/outside/latest |
| 04:02.31 | scanline | laodamas: easy to parse :) |
| 04:02.39 | pagefault_ | I am sure there will be robot sex workers |
| 04:02.43 | scanline | laodamas: or you can get individual values like http://navi.cx/therm/source/outside/latest/average |
| 04:03.03 | laodamas | funfunfun |
| 04:03.13 | KeyserLaptop | laodamas: you can't use frequency. every particle at the same temperature has the same kinetic, so if the masses are different, the speeds are different |
| 04:03.54 | KeyserLaptop | er, same kinetic energy |
| 04:03.59 | zak | scanline: is there a place for me to restart that season 3 torrent? |
| 04:04.13 | pagefault_ | couldn't it be argued that temperature is relative to the object sensing it? |
| 04:04.24 | KeyserLaptop | pagefault_: no :D |
| 04:04.40 | scanline | zak: maybe /tmp? :) |
| 04:04.48 | zak | pagefault_: yes...they call it thermal conductivity...and the temp is still the same....it just feel differentful |
| 04:04.54 | zak | scanline: is there 8.9 gig there? |
| 04:05.00 | scanline | no |
| 04:05.02 | laodamas | KeyserLaptop: Thats why a standard mass would have to be defined. Or find a substance that expands and contracts enough to see a measureable change in its frequency responce (say a quartz crystal) |
| 04:05.05 | pagefault_ | see I never took physics so this is all news to me |
| 04:05.18 | zak | that's actally thermodynamics |
| 04:05.22 | pagefault_ | ahh |
| 04:06.01 | pagefault_ | would making coffee be considered prior experience in thermodynamics |
| 04:06.21 | file[laptop] | pagefault_: got a reply back from Eastlink, 1Mbps upstream ;) |
| 04:06.32 | purple_cow | it might be prior experience, but it's not particularly useful experience |
| 04:06.53 | pagefault_ | file[laptop], did they mention the c word? |
| 04:06.57 | pagefault_ | purple_cow, interesting |
| 04:07.01 | file[laptop] | pagefault_: nope, I even asked |
| 04:07.01 | zak | think of it like this: you have a piece of plastic and a piece of metal in the same room...they have been there a long time, and during this time time, the room has remained at a constant temp...but if you touch the metal..it feels colder then the plastic...different thermal conductivities |
| 04:07.06 | Sophie_ | listening to music torrents before they've completed downloading is interesting |
| 04:07.14 | zak | see kergoth: pleanty of periods |
| 04:07.39 | pagefault_ | zak, ah I see so this would also apply to insulators and conductors |
| 04:07.46 | zak | yes.. |
| 04:07.54 | zak | but only sorta |
| 04:08.11 | pagefault_ | purple_cow, have fun |
| 04:08.13 | zak | plastic is a better insulator then metal.. |
| 04:08.19 | KeyserLaptop | why don't you define temperature so that it's in terms of what earth's mass would have to be so that a particle at the surface of the earth's total energy, (if it were at 0 Kelvin, but including the potential energy) would be equal to it's total energy at that temperature, with a kinetic energy for it's actual temperature? |
| 04:08.42 | KeyserLaptop | or, maybe just how high above earth's surface it would have to be so that it's PE equals the KE due to it's temperature |
| 04:08.48 | zak | are you saying it is 22.31 Keyersoze outside? |
| 04:08.51 | pagefault_ | zak, so having a plastic thermos is better than one of those stainless steal deals? |
| 04:08.57 | zak | right |
| 04:08.59 | pagefault_ | hmm |
| 04:09.01 | zak | that's what i said |
| 04:09.05 | zak | plastic is better |
| 04:09.06 | pagefault_ | I always thought the opposite |
| 04:09.07 | KeyserLaptop | IE: how far you have to drop it from if it's completely cold, to make it's energy at earth's surface equal it's actual temperature? |
| 04:09.15 | zak | and in most cases..the metal is only on the outside |
| 04:09.22 | zak | it's plastic on the inside |
| 04:09.29 | pagefault_ | I have an all metal one |
| 04:09.30 | scanline | well, the actual insulating material is a vacuum |
| 04:09.36 | scanline | so it doesn't mater what the outside is made of so much |
| 04:09.38 | scanline | and metal is sturdier |
| 04:09.59 | zak | sometimes |
| 04:10.08 | zak | most times actually |
| 04:10.17 | zak | but that really depends on the thickness.. |
| 04:10.20 | scanline | I mean, a thermos isn't solid metal |
| 04:10.35 | pagefault_ | yeah it's a dual chamber thing |
| 04:10.39 | pagefault_ | usually |
| 04:10.43 | scanline | it has some kind of insulating material- preferably it's an evacuated chamber, but even air or something would be better than solid metal :P |
| 04:10.52 | scanline | mmm, foil |
| 04:11.10 | pagefault_ | baked potatos |
| 04:11.15 | zak | pagefault_: what happens when you solder a large piece of metal? |
| 04:11.30 | zak | it's really hard to get the temp high enough because the whole damn thng heats up |
| 04:11.39 | zak | scanline and i have practice at this. |
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| 04:11.50 | pagefault_ | zak, yep but wouldn't that be a good thing in a thermos |
| 04:11.54 | zak | no |
| 04:12.01 | zak | hence the two layer thing. |
| 04:13.00 | zak | pagefault_: congrads you have now had your thermodynamics lesson for the day |
| 04:13.15 | pagefault_ | hooray |
| 04:14.05 | pagefault_ | file[laptop], sackville |
| 04:14.07 | pagefault_ | that is too funny |
| 04:14.13 | pagefault_ | hehe |
| 04:14.13 | kergoth | so very very bored. |
| 04:14.40 | pagefault_ | I suppose it's better than living in dildo, newfoundland |
| 04:14.46 | kergoth | i think perhaps i'll use zak's idea and reread the eye of the world |
| 04:14.48 | kergoth | if i can find it |
| 04:14.55 | kergoth | this having all my books in boxes in the closet thing really doesnt work very well |
| 04:15.00 | KeyserLaptop | check zak's room |
| 04:15.05 | KeyserLaptop | i think it's there |
| 04:15.27 | pagefault_ | blah organization is overrated |
| 04:15.29 | kergoth | thatd be mean, i'd rather use mine |
| 04:15.42 | zak | the truth is out there. |
| 04:15.54 | pagefault_ | good thing scanline has a tin foil hat on |
| 04:16.00 | zak | actually..me too |
| 04:16.34 | KeyserLaptop | ahah! I was right! |
| 04:16.34 | zak | you other people are just in the wrong state or graduated |
| 04:17.02 | KeyserLaptop | that's sad |
| 04:17.10 | zak | nono |
| 04:17.22 | KeyserLaptop | ack! is the closet alive? |
| 04:17.23 | zak | laodamas is in colorado, but doesn't here because he graduated |
| 04:17.34 | zak | brandon is also not here. |
| 04:17.37 | zak | but he never really was |
| 04:17.46 | zak | he just visited alot |
| 04:17.50 | KeyserLaptop | did gonkulator graduate, or transfer? |
| 04:17.52 | laodamas | On that note |
| 04:17.54 | zak | yes |
| 04:18.26 | zak | laodamas: on that note.. |
| 04:18.33 | zak | we have stuff of yours |
| 04:18.40 | zak | (and a clean carpet...thank you) |
| 04:18.56 | zak | but i'll be in UT |
| 04:19.40 | laodamas | the xc season is over so I will be going to Keystone |
| 04:20.06 | purple_cow | hmm, scanline just went into hidey mode |
| 04:20.10 | KeyserLaptop | crosscountry |
| 04:20.16 | zak | ah |
| 04:20.39 | zak | Sophie_: did you ever figure out why KeyserLaptop was in my room? that's a little wierd... :P |
| 04:20.50 | zak | a mostly stranger in my room while i'm gone |
| 04:20.56 | scanline | purple_cow: I've been in hidey mode most of the day :P |
| 04:20.58 | zak | heebee jeebee's i tell ya |
| 04:20.58 | laodamas | skate cross country skiing is quite miserable in wet sping snow |
| 04:21.21 | zak | Sophie_: it seems KeyserLaptop is in lots of peoples rooms |
| 04:21.33 | zak | BWHWAHAHA |
| 04:21.37 | scanline | yep |
| 04:22.04 | zak | scanline: why aiaa stuff? why on earth do you care about them? |
| 04:22.24 | scanline | zak: apparently my paper was accepted for a presentation at their small satellite coference in August |
| 04:22.33 | scanline | so I need to make sure it follows their formatting guidelines |
| 04:23.04 | laodamas | yay! Today's daily show torrent downloaded. |
| 04:23.53 | zak | aha |
| 04:23.54 | zak | cool |
| 04:26.47 | KeyserLaptop | but then, /me *always* suggests fire |
| 04:26.56 | laodamas | ha |
| 04:27.22 | zak | laodamas: kick it over |
| 04:28.16 | laodamas | poor Tolstoy |
| 04:28.20 | zak | there you go. less tall. |
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| 04:31.33 | zak | cwisty: i dunno if you are actually here or if that is an auto rejoin, but if you really be there, scanline mentioned you were thinking of going to italy...when are you going? and can i come? (supposing i am free and all) |
| 04:31.45 | cwisty | yes |
| 04:31.48 | cwisty | I am going to Italy in May |
| 04:31.55 | zak | w00t |
| 04:31.56 | cwisty | (is this Jen?) |
| 04:32.01 | zak | this is jen |
| 04:32.12 | cwisty | I am going in May |
| 04:32.28 | purple_cow | wooblewooblewooble |
| 04:32.34 | cwisty | right now I'm looking at May sometime after our launch readiness review until about the 27th |
| 04:32.40 | zak | purple_cow: i am not getting anything done |
| 04:32.42 | cwisty | I'm going with my family |
| 04:33.08 | zak | but otherwise... |
| 04:34.21 | CIA-8 | navi-misc: 03fibonaci * r7478 10music/palmer-piano_concerto/01_allegro_ma_non_troppo/piano.ly: Finish section seven. |
| 04:34.53 | zak | is that where you folk honeymooned? |
| 04:35.08 | KeyserLaptop | make sure the rude guy isn't at the trainstation if you have to buy a trainticket in venice, and you will be all set |
| 04:35.14 | purple_cow | venice is indeed smelly |
| 04:35.33 | laodamas | s/a/as |
| 04:35.37 | KeyserLaptop | zak: no, we actually still haven't had a honeymoon. but we went to europe for 10 days shortly after we met |
| 04:35.50 | zak | aha |
| 04:36.39 | purple_cow | hmm |
| 04:36.46 | purple_cow | it's been forever and a half since i listened to this album |
| 04:36.52 | zak | when they eventually do go :) |
| 04:37.48 | laodamas | KeyserLaptop: Norway is reaaaaalllly nice (and can be done for $100/day) |
| 04:37.49 | KeyserLaptop | nifty sounds nice |
| 04:37.55 | zak | if i ever get married, i want to go to the scottish highlands |
| 04:38.37 | laodamas | zak: been there. The isle of skye is also rather nifty. |
| 04:38.57 | KeyserLaptop | i gave them crazy rides in my corvette. 1 really enjoyed it, one moderately enjoyed it, and one was scared shitless |
| 04:40.09 | laodamas | Although the bagpipers on every street corner in Edinburgh all seem to know only one song and repeat it endlessly |
| 04:40.26 | zak | wow KeyserLaptop...if you can scare a guy from europe while driving..that...takes talent |
| 04:41.54 | KeyserLaptop | they drive fast through traffic, but they don't have 400hp and do powerslides around corners, and then accelerate to 100 making your head snap back, and then brake hard enough for the next corner to nearly seperate your retinas |
| 04:42.08 | zak | scanline: run upstairs and lock your front door! |
| 04:42.09 | zak | jk |
| 04:42.27 | zak | what did you do to it |
| 04:42.44 | KeyserLaptop | broke a valve spring driving it from michigan to florida :( |
| 04:43.37 | KeyserLaptop | of course, I have no one to blame but myself since I was the one who replaced the cam with one with more lift and duration, and upgraded the valvetrain |
| 04:44.12 | *** join/#tacobeam samyb (~samy@212.76.88.15) |
| 04:44.20 | numist | nice, KeyserLaptop |
| 04:44.22 | numist | thatll teach you |
| 04:44.30 | KeyserLaptop | no, sadly it wont |
| 04:44.36 | numist | true |
| 04:44.56 | purple_cow | brr |
| 04:44.57 | KeyserLaptop | well, it will tell me to replace valve springs periodically, but it won't teach me to leave well enough alone |
| 04:45.06 | purple_cow | this shirt is not warm enough for the temperature outside |
| 04:46.31 | KeyserLaptop | unless it had mr. fusion, and a flux capacitor |
| 04:46.43 | laodamas | http://www.usadmc.com/byod.asp |
| 04:46.49 | KeyserLaptop | or mr. coffee and an electrolytic capacitor |
| 04:47.31 | KeyserLaptop | hehe. a power supply engineer i work with brought some old cap he found into work, and it was as big as your fist |
| 04:47.41 | KeyserLaptop | wait. i don't know how big your fist is. |
| 04:47.49 | KeyserLaptop | lets just say it was as big as my fist |
| 04:48.01 | KeyserLaptop | wait. you don't know how big *my* fist is. |
| 04:49.36 | Xentac | KeyserLaptop: just show us with your hands how big it was |
| 04:50.28 | Xentac | hehehe |
| 04:51.02 | Xentac | so we're talking total displacement here, not just circumference |
| 04:51.48 | file[laptop] | eek Xentac |
| 04:51.52 | KeyserLaptop | okay, 550ml |
| 04:54.00 | Xentac | ummm, hi file[laptop] |
| 04:54.07 | file[laptop] | greetings Xentac |
| 04:56.02 | CIA-8 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r7479 10fyre/ (3 files in 3 dirs): whoops, forgot to add these |
| 04:56.08 | KeyserLaptop | they are *really* tiny |
| 04:56.21 | purple_cow | heh |
| 04:56.23 | KeyserLaptop | one was in line ahead of me at a track day, once |
| 04:56.31 | purple_cow | cool |
| 04:58.33 | KeyserLaptop | http://www.factoryfive.com/table/ffrkits/GTM/gtmgallery.html |
| 04:59.23 | KeyserLaptop | it's a kit car, built with a mid-mounted LS1, and a porsche G-50 transaxle |
| 04:59.41 | purple_cow | wow, 50mpg on the classic 7 |
| 04:59.49 | KeyserLaptop | the Mosler MT900 is also a mid-engine car with an LS1 and porsche transaxle :D |
| 04:59.51 | purple_cow | i suppose that's not suprising, given its weight |
| 05:00.49 | purple_cow | heh, they don't even give a fuel economy number for the superlight |
| 05:01.08 | purple_cow | i guess anyone buying one of those cares more about power than efficiency |
| 05:01.39 | kergoth | fuck |
| 05:01.42 | kergoth | whered i put my remote |
| 05:01.50 | kergoth | its amazing that in an apartment this small, is itll manage to lose it |
| 05:02.06 | file[laptop] | kergoth: your TV has controls on the front |
| 05:02.18 | CIA-8 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r7480 10fyre/ (3 files in 3 dirs): quiet! |
| 05:02.27 | Xentac | KeyserLaptop: nah still here |
| 05:02.32 | KeyserLaptop | ah, good |
| 05:02.39 | Xentac | just not much to say |
| 05:02.44 | zak | if you apartment is that small..do you need a remote? |
| 05:02.52 | KeyserLaptop | starting to think i shoulda chatted, isntead of doing a water-displacement test on my hand |
| 05:02.54 | zak | wow. Xentac. haven't seen you in ages. |
| 05:03.06 | Xentac | zak: yeah, I haven't been around in ages |
| 05:03.12 | Xentac | I stopped in a little while ago |
| 05:03.17 | KeyserLaptop | purple_cow: where'd you see 50mpg for the classic? |
| 05:03.18 | Xentac | and idled pretty well |
| 05:03.31 | purple_cow | KeyserLaptop: one of those pages, lost it now |
| 05:03.36 | KeyserLaptop | that's okay |
| 05:03.51 | KeyserLaptop | i coulda sworn i've seen people use a motorcycle engine in a super7 |
| 05:03.53 | kergoth | zak: because i'm lazy. and most of hte things i want to do arent on the frontpanels anyway |
| 05:03.56 | kergoth | grr |
| 05:04.00 | kergoth | well, it isnt in the fridge |
| 05:04.02 | kergoth | or the kitchen |
| 05:04.17 | zak | bathroom? |
| 05:04.22 | zak | couch cushions? |
| 05:04.31 | zak | bedroom? (same place?) |
| 05:05.13 | kergoth | nope, checked all those |
| 05:05.14 | kergoth | damnit |
| 05:05.17 | kergoth | oh well |
| 05:05.37 | KeyserLaptop | well, maybe 28mpg isn't "just shy of 30mpg" |
| 05:06.07 | KeyserLaptop | i bet an ls1 in a super7 would get way better mileage, because of the reduced frontal area |
| 05:06.41 | KeyserLaptop | eek. 550kg. that's 1175 lbs, i think |
| 05:07.12 | purple_cow | that's on the classic? |
| 05:08.11 | KeyserLaptop | 540kg on the classic |
| 05:08.20 | purple_cow | hehe |
| 05:08.23 | KeyserLaptop | 550 on roadsport |
| 05:08.23 | purple_cow | better hope it's not windy :) |
| 05:08.45 | zak | kergoth: next time you find your remote, attach a noise maker pager thing to it (like on a phone) and then glue the button to the wall, so you can't lose that |
| 05:08.59 | KeyserLaptop | superlight: r300=500kg, r400=490kg, r500=460kg |
| 05:09.09 | zak | also...have scanline attach LEDs to it so that when you hit the noise making button, it blinks too |
| 05:09.24 | KeyserLaptop | 460kg = 1014lbs |
| 05:10.20 | KeyserLaptop | a car that weighs 1000lbs is just insance |
| 05:10.29 | KeyserLaptop | s/ance/ane/ |
| 05:11.16 | KeyserLaptop | if i could even fit in the tiny little bugger |
| 05:15.19 | zak | wow. talk about finding friends from the dark ages. |
| 05:17.24 | file[laptop] | yay my bed is made up |
| 05:18.50 | cwisty | time for sleeping |
| 05:18.55 | cwisty | night tacobeam crowd |
| 05:19.09 | *** part/#tacobeam cwisty (~default@p10.n-nypop07.stsn.com) |
| 05:23.18 | kergoth | mm, mila jovavich |
| 05:24.11 | KeyserLaptop | watching a flick? |
| 05:24.29 | KeyserLaptop | and then guesses fifth element |
| 05:24.29 | kergoth | resident evil: apocalypse. picked up a few movies at blockbuster |
| 05:25.00 | file[laptop] | kergoth: I just had it in my head for a bit that your name was Kevin |
| 05:25.12 | kergoth | fraid not |
| 05:25.14 | KeyserLaptop | ack. is that the sequel? |
| 05:25.18 | kergoth | KeyserLaptop: yep |
| 05:25.20 | KeyserLaptop | that's a *horrible* movie |
| 05:25.26 | kergoth | aw |
| 05:25.29 | kergoth | just started |
| 05:25.30 | file[laptop] | kergoth: what's your AIM sn? |
| 05:25.35 | kergoth | not normally a fan of sequels, but figured ya never know |
| 05:26.03 | kergoth | file[laptop]: 'sirkergoth' on aim. very old account. forgot the pass to 'kergothh' |
| 05:26.10 | file[laptop] | ah k |
| 05:26.12 | kergoth | er s/h'$/'/ |
| 05:26.57 | file[laptop] | I'm updating my names... well, IRC/SN->Real Name list |
| 05:27.02 | kergoth | ah |
| 05:27.44 | kergoth | oh well, sometimes horrible movies can still be entertaining, if in a different way |
| 05:28.05 | file[laptop] | okay... all updated |
| 05:30.36 | file[laptop] | goodnight everyone |
| 05:30.45 | KeyserLaptop | g'night |
| 05:32.42 | KeyserLaptop | funny joke: |
| 05:32.44 | KeyserLaptop | and one for Art majors: |
| 05:32.44 | KeyserLaptop | The managment major says, " why do we need this?" |
| 05:32.44 | KeyserLaptop | The Engineering major says, "How does it work?" |
| 05:32.44 | KeyserLaptop | The Accounting major says, "How much does it cost?" |
| 05:32.44 | KeyserLaptop | The Art major says, "do you want fries with that?" Laughing |
| 05:33.29 | KeyserLaptop | oh god, this one is funny |
| 05:33.38 | KeyserLaptop | A man was crossing a road one day when a frog called out to him and said, "If you kiss me, I'll turn into a beautiful princess". He bent over, picked up the frog and put it in his pocket. |
| 05:33.38 | KeyserLaptop | The frog spoke up again and said, "If you kiss me and turn me back into a beautiful princess, I will stay with you for one week." The man took the frog out of his pocket, smiled at it and returned it to the pocket. |
| 05:33.38 | KeyserLaptop | The frog then cried out, "If you kiss me and turn me back into a princess, I'll stay with you for a week and do ANYTHING you want." Again the man took the frog out, smiled at it and put it back into his pocket. |
| 05:33.38 | KeyserLaptop | Finally, the frog asked, "What is the matter? I've told you I'm a beautiful princess, that I'll stay with you for a week and do anything you want. Why won't you kiss me?" |
| 05:33.41 | KeyserLaptop | The man said, "Look I'm an engineer. I don't have time for a girlfriend, but a talking frog is cool." |
| 05:34.09 | zak | hehe. heard that one. |
| 05:43.31 | purple_cow | bleep bloop |
| 05:43.42 | lurgy | morning purple_cow |
| 05:45.27 | purple_cow | glurg |
| 05:45.48 | lurgy | glurg? |
| 05:46.15 | slimspace | yay done filling out forms |
| 05:48.25 | lurgy | does that mean it's time for some B7? |
| 05:49.09 | slimspace | possibly, but unfortunately I will be unable to join, seeing as I'm in Aurora |
| 05:51.03 | lurgy | boo, nonrandom |
| 05:51.29 | lurgy | we could watch raising arizona |
| 05:52.03 | lurgy | hmm |
| 05:52.31 | lurgy | THX 1138? |
| 05:52.48 | purple_cow | meh |
| 05:53.02 | lurgy | uh oh, the food |
| 05:53.20 | zak | what is raising arizona? a documentry? |
| 05:53.45 | KeyserLaptop | nick cage flick |
| 05:53.49 | lurgy | yep, about tectonic plate movement |
| 05:53.55 | lurgy | KeyserLaptop: sshh you'll give it away |
| 05:54.02 | KeyserLaptop | he and his cop wife, who can't have a kid, kidnap a rich guy's baby |
| 05:54.06 | KeyserLaptop | hilarity ensues |
| 05:54.14 | scanline | nooo |
| 05:54.18 | scanline | KeyserLaptop gave away the ending |
| 05:54.22 | lurgy | KeyserLaptop: you mean.. tectonic plate movement ensues |
| 05:54.28 | lurgy | ;) |
| 05:54.40 | lurgy | in arizona of course |
| 06:16.03 | kergoth | KeyserLaptop: jeeze, that movie's plot was essentially nonexistant. |
| 06:16.44 | KeyserLaptop | yeah, amazing, wasn't it? |
| 06:16.47 | kergoth | hehe |
| 06:16.52 | scanline | which movie? |
| 06:17.00 | kergoth | the first one wasnt bad, i mean, it actually had a plot, if a somewhat silly one |
| 06:17.01 | KeyserLaptop | resident evil 2 |
| 06:17.09 | KeyserLaptop | the first one kicked ass |
| 06:17.10 | scanline | that was a movie? |
| 06:17.10 | kergoth | but this, it had nothing |
| 06:17.12 | kergoth | yep |
| 06:17.15 | kergoth | resident evil: apocalypse |
| 06:17.27 | KeyserLaptop | the 2nd one, didn't have a single redeeming quality |
| 06:17.28 | kergoth | sequel |
| 06:17.40 | kergoth | well, mila jovavich was in it. thats about the best that could be said |
| 06:17.45 | KeyserLaptop | yeah |
| 06:17.47 | kergoth | hehe |
| 06:18.13 | KeyserLaptop | Sophie_ has a framed picture of Mila from RE1 in the living room :p |
| 06:18.20 | kergoth | there've been a couple good movies based on games |
| 06:18.24 | kergoth | mortal kombat was another good oen |
| 06:18.26 | kergoth | one |
| 06:18.33 | kergoth | (only the first, the others sucked ass) |
| 06:18.54 | KeyserLaptop | er, Christopher Lambert |
| 06:19.04 | kergoth | i liked highlander as well |
| 06:19.08 | kergoth | the first, anyway |
| 06:19.48 | scanline | slimspace: have you looked at this AIAA formatting at all? they have an author guide that describes the formatting, but it doesn't quite match the AIAA package in CTAN |
| 06:20.09 | slimspace | haven't even looked at it |
| 06:20.35 | scanline | heh |
| 06:25.37 | slimspace | s/peak/peek/ |
| 06:26.01 | lurgy | lalala |
| 06:26.16 | lurgy | yay for the laptop deciding to snag a nice ip |
| 06:26.23 | lurgy | i.e., the right one |
| 06:26.31 | ChipX86 | yay, Jamie and I figured out when our anniversary is |
| 06:26.44 | ChipX86 | and realized that our 6 month anniversary just happens to be on the day that she's coming next |
| 06:27.07 | scanline | slimspace: I forget where on their web site I originally found it, but here's a copy: http://navi.cx/~micah/smallsat/Small_Sat_2005_Author_Kit.pdf |
| 06:27.19 | scanline | ChipX86: cool! |
| 06:27.42 | ChipX86 | yeah :D |
| 06:27.49 | ChipX86 | not sure what we're going to do yet |
| 06:27.59 | slimspace | scanline: thanks, but I got it. There was a link in the email |
| 06:28.04 | scanline | k |
| 06:28.06 | ChipX86 | unfortunately, that's toward the end of May |
| 06:28.18 | scanline | ChipX86: ='( |
| 06:28.30 | scanline | why can't you get together sooner? |
| 06:28.34 | hardwire | kergoth: aww.. I wanna watch. |
| 06:28.48 | ChipX86 | we can, but that anniversary will be in May |
| 06:28.49 | kergoth | hardwire: have you seen eurotrip? |
| 06:28.53 | scanline | ah |
| 06:28.55 | ChipX86 | I'm going to see her this weekend. Heading back to Chico |
| 06:28.56 | hardwire | kergoth: its in my netflix queue |
| 06:29.00 | kergoth | hardwire: good |
| 06:29.01 | hardwire | butno |
| 06:29.03 | ChipX86 | and we have no idea what's going to happen in April |
| 06:29.04 | hardwire | why? |
| 06:29.04 | kergoth | funny as hell |
| 06:29.06 | hardwire | ah |
| 06:29.09 | kergoth | just saw it on hbo the other day |
| 06:29.09 | hardwire | yeh.. |
| 06:29.13 | scanline | ChipX86: that's good to hear |
| 06:29.16 | hardwire | I was going to watch it on HBO.. |
| 06:29.20 | hardwire | but I left the island that has HBO |
| 06:29.22 | hardwire | :( |
| 06:29.23 | kergoth | hehe |
| 06:29.25 | kergoth | thast no good |
| 06:29.28 | hardwire | indeed |
| 06:29.36 | hardwire | these cats suck |
| 06:29.42 | scanline | slimspace: so.. there's an AIAA style in CTAN from 2004, but it's not specific to the smallsat conference. The other formatting may be similar, but the biggest difference is that it isn't two-column |
| 06:29.48 | hardwire | oh well |
| 06:29.53 | hardwire | bullet-debian is working |
| 06:30.12 | hardwire | this is an amazingly simple way of doing quick-n-dirty flash filesystems |
| 06:30.24 | slimspace | scanline: hmm...we may need to slightly modify it then |
| 06:30.48 | hardwire | however save_settings.sh tars up all your changes to another partition |
| 06:30.54 | hardwire | and that takes oh.. a long ass time. |
| 06:31.10 | hardwire | I need to have a soft boot and hard boot to reduce loading time |
| 06:31.23 | kergoth | heh, you really want to be using unionfs |
| 06:31.27 | kergoth | you should play with oe sometime |
| 06:31.28 | hardwire | I am |
| 06:31.46 | scanline | ? |
| 06:32.23 | hardwire | I think he can't see me. |
| 06:32.41 | kergoth | heh |
| 06:32.43 | scanline | kergoth: you talking to slimspace and I? we already use OE.. and purple_cow and I were using unionfs, but ditched it for now due to bugginess and such |
| 06:32.52 | hardwire | told you :) |
| 06:32.53 | kergoth | scanline: no, i'm talking to hardwire, whom you apparently have ignored |
| 06:32.56 | ChipX86 | I want to write XMLFS |
| 06:32.57 | scanline | oh |
| 06:32.59 | scanline | yeah |
| 06:33.04 | hardwire | cause I are annoying. |
| 06:33.08 | KeyserLaptop | hehe |
| 06:33.18 | kergoth | scanline: the unionfs guys have a project to make a vfs level raid setup. heavily modified unionfs. hopefully something comes out of that |
| 06:33.20 | KeyserLaptop | does that mean scanline doesn't see anything you type? |
| 06:33.28 | KeyserLaptop | lol |
| 06:33.32 | scanline | kergoth: right, you were telling me about that. Sounds cool and all that |
| 06:33.42 | kergoth | who knows though, just vapor atm |
| 06:33.44 | kergoth | heh |
| 06:33.46 | hardwire | kergoth: that would be cool |
| 06:33.53 | hardwire | I am using unionfs. |
| 06:33.56 | hardwire | I am just being a weirdo |
| 06:34.12 | hardwire | once debian boots.. it formats a spare partition w/ ext2 |
| 06:34.19 | hardwire | and untars the /union/ dir into it |
| 06:34.30 | hardwire | which holds usr var and etc blank files for the most part |
| 06:34.38 | hardwire | then mount mounts all the unionfs partitions |
| 06:34.49 | hardwire | /usr -> /union/usr |
| 06:34.49 | hardwire | ... |
| 06:35.09 | hardwire | now the new formatted ext2 is toplevel for the squashfs /usr |
| 06:35.28 | hardwire | I could usually just unplug the machine at this point.. and fuck up the fs |
| 06:35.35 | kergoth | hardwire: ah. i think itd be useful to write some scripts for explicitly "pushing" certain files from one union member down into another. i.e. to push your tmpfs modified configuration files from /etc down into flash, but only if they're listed in a config file. |
| 06:35.42 | purple_cow | hurray, an upgraded mono and gtk-sharp fixed the dnd thing on bhaskara |
| 06:35.44 | hardwire | so.. the script save_settings.sh tars up the /union/ dir to another partition that is just a tar file |
| 06:36.07 | hardwire | kergoth: naw.. not for this.. I need embedded and bulletproof right off the bat |
| 06:36.11 | hardwire | mainly just a me thing |
| 06:36.14 | kergoth | gotcha |
| 06:36.28 | hardwire | but when I am onsite on this coast guard job.. I am going to need to install/remove tons of things as well as have it retain known good settings |
| 06:36.33 | hardwire | so.. its nice.. |
| 06:36.40 | hardwire | no corruption.. ever.. |
| 06:36.45 | hardwire | just frustration if you don't save settings |
| 06:37.11 | hardwire | or.. if you power off while saving settings.. your /union/ overlay is fucked.. the basic structure gets restored again but heh.. you are slightly fucked. |
| 06:37.38 | hardwire | have to install asterisk and snmpd and all that again |
| 06:38.16 | hardwire | butI wrote a script.. it automagically steals the root partition from a qemu image file.. throws everything into the right areas and throws some scripts in that shouldn't exist in the qemu image for handling the unionfs. |
| 06:38.23 | scanline | oh. haha |
| 06:38.26 | hardwire | and it automatically partitions the target flash device. |
| 06:38.30 | scanline | slimspace: smallsat limits the abstract to 200 words |
| 06:38.46 | hardwire | ok |
| 06:38.51 | scanline | hmm |
| 06:38.52 | hardwire | kitty.. go.. |
| 06:38.59 | scanline | I guess the standards paper's abstract is only 153 words |
| 06:39.22 | hardwire | kergoth: my only problem is that I can't delete from a squashfs. |
| 06:39.32 | hardwire | it would be excellent if the append mode supported that. |
| 06:39.36 | scanline | the pymck paper's abstract is at 263, but I don't think we submitted it to smallsat |
| 06:39.52 | hardwire | then I would use squashfs vs tar.. and use rsync to set up the unidirectional backup data. |
| 06:39.53 | scanline | ah well |
| 06:40.20 | scanline | but it'd be nice to have the paper in its final form for the symposium too |
| 06:40.31 | hardwire | maybe I can hack that by storing .wh. files manually |
| 06:40.36 | kergoth | hardwire: i wonder how unionfs would react to a whiteout file existing on the same union member as the file itself. hehe. if it obeyed it, you could just add a .wh. |
| 06:40.39 | kergoth | heh. |
| 06:40.41 | hardwire | and then logging which ones I make.. |
| 06:40.52 | hardwire | kergoth: yeh.. psych |
| 06:40.58 | hardwire | gonna try later tonight. |
| 06:41.12 | kergoth | KeyserLaptop: :( know how ya feel. been all lethargic myself |
| 06:41.27 | KeyserLaptop | a jar full of heroin! |
| 06:41.28 | kergoth | problem is, you need motivation to get working out, but you need to work out to get motivation |
| 06:41.31 | kergoth | i hate that |
| 06:41.34 | KeyserLaptop | yeah |
| 06:41.37 | slimspace | scanline: yeah, definitely. I was actually thinking I would get started on the PyMCK paper tomorrow, get it formatted and maybe a sizable chunk done. |
| 06:41.56 | KeyserLaptop | bah |
| 06:41.59 | scanline | slimspace: k |
| 06:42.06 | slimspace | I'm sure I can shorten the abstract, but no, we didn't submit that to AIAA |
| 06:42.17 | scanline | no reason to worry about the abstract length then |
| 06:42.22 | slimspace | yeah |
| 06:44.14 | purple_cow | hrm |
| 06:44.59 | KeyserLaptop | or machinery |
| 06:45.07 | scanline | or parties |
| 06:52.31 | purple_cow | it was a decent radio show |
| 06:52.36 | lurgy | heh |
| 06:52.37 | lurgy | yes |
| 06:52.41 | ChipX86 | Bill Nye the Science Guy makes a comeback with an adult-themed show covering sex, addiction, and cloning |
| 06:52.48 | ChipX86 | yay! |
| 06:52.49 | scanline | ooh |
| 06:52.52 | ChipX86 | he visits Chico |
| 06:52.55 | lurgy | and then when he was 30 years older he felt the need to try and relive his old glory days |
| 06:52.55 | ChipX86 | every so often we see his car |
| 06:52.59 | lurgy | and failed miserably ;) |
| 06:53.17 | KeyserLaptop | bill nye had glory days? |
| 06:53.23 | lurgy | no, Orson Welles :) |
| 06:54.34 | scanline | "The BibTeX program is written, as is all TeX, using static data structures, and the maximum length of any one string is by default 1000 characters. It is not uncommon for fields like abstract and contents to overflow this buffer." |
| 06:54.36 | scanline | that's silly |
| 06:54.50 | scanline | but then, it was written in 1985 |
| 06:54.51 | scanline | bleh |
| 06:54.58 | KeyserLaptop | speaking of Orson Wells, I really liked the book "Keep the Aspidastra Flying" by George Orwell |
| 06:55.12 | KeyserLaptop | who isn't Orson Welles, but has a name that reminds me of him |
| 07:00.51 | scanline | slimspace: hmm.. the pre-2004 AIAA latex style might be what we want. I'll have to check it, but it looks quite close |
| 07:01.01 | slimspace | coolness |
| 07:01.08 | purple_cow | guh, what the hell is this movie about? it's been half an hour and nothing's happened |
| 07:01.19 | scanline | purple_cow: what movie? |
| 07:01.23 | purple_cow | "the dish" |
| 07:01.24 | lurgy | purple_cow: the MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOON! |
| 07:01.31 | scanline | oh |
| 07:01.31 | lurgy | purple_cow: it's really about the moon coming to terms with things |
| 07:01.33 | scanline | good movie |
| 07:02.50 | KeyserLaptop | it's about austalia |
| 07:02.53 | KeyserLaptop | and australians |
| 07:22.22 | CIA-8 | navi-misc: 03fibonaci * r7481 10music/palmer-piano_concerto/01_allegro_ma_non_troppo/piano.ly: Did climax section. |
| 07:23.11 | luqui | so lurgy, has purple_cow talked you into doing the trombone part of my concerto yet? |
| 07:31.15 | lurgy | luqui: if you can convince someone to add another hour to every day, then i'll spend at least half of it on that ;) |
| 07:31.25 | lurgy | luqui: and whaddaya mean, "the" trombone part |
| 07:31.39 | lurgy | only 1? =p |
| 07:32.44 | luqui | er, because of my soundfonts, I haven't considered the difference between the section and a soloist |
| 07:32.52 | luqui | as the editor, maybe you could do that :-p |
| 07:33.18 | lurgy | heh |
| 07:33.19 | lurgy | oh my |
| 07:33.47 | purple_cow | luqui: very few orchestral pieces have a single part |
| 07:33.52 | lurgy | usually the parts are different ;) |
| 07:34.04 | lurgy | not just one part written in different keys or something |
| 07:34.37 | luqui | really? |
| 07:34.38 | luqui | hmm... |
| 07:35.05 | luqui | I've multivoiced it at certain times... |
| 07:35.35 | luqui | but the first movement doesn't have much brass anyway |
| 07:35.41 | luqui | (hoping to fix that in later movements) |
| 07:35.41 | lurgy | heheh |
| 07:35.54 | lurgy | the rachmaninoff approach to brass composition then ;) |
| 07:36.01 | luqui | quite |
| 07:36.50 | luqui | but it'd be great if somebody who has actually *seen* a brass section look over the score and tell me what's amiss |
| 07:36.57 | luqui | I might be able to hack in some more parts |
| 07:36.58 | lurgy | :) |
| 07:37.09 | lurgy | thing about low brass |
| 07:37.27 | lurgy | is that while it can be effective as a unified noisemaking device |
| 07:38.01 | lurgy | it is much more effective as an independent choir |
| 07:38.15 | luqui | hmm... hard to hack then |
| 07:38.26 | lurgy | :) |
| 07:38.28 | luqui | I'll just have to use it effectively in the second movement |
| 07:38.32 | lurgy | nod |
| 07:38.49 | luqui | (I'm giving the neglected parts due attention in the second movement) |
| 07:38.55 | lurgy | yay! |
| 07:38.55 | purple_cow | hmm, a brass heavy slow movement |
| 07:39.01 | luqui | (the piccolo is the second main instrument) |
| 07:39.11 | lurgy | luqui: 4th movement of schumann's 3rd symphony |
| 07:39.15 | lurgy | luqui: it's on navi |
| 07:39.18 | luqui | okay |
| 07:39.20 | lurgy | very beginning |
| 07:39.31 | luqui | listen to my 2nd movement sketch. luqui.org |
| 07:39.37 | lurgy | a nice little french horn / trombone choir thing |
| 07:39.39 | lurgy | kk |
| 07:39.56 | lurgy | though if you ever write that high for trombone in this era you will be shot |
| 07:40.04 | lurgy | as high as in the schumann example, that is |
| 07:40.11 | lurgy | ;) |
| 07:40.30 | luqui | okey. (I'll listen to the schumann after this piece finished) |
| 07:40.34 | lurgy | :) |
| 07:41.01 | lurgy | brahms also does a good job with it in his symphonies |
| 07:41.32 | lurgy | though in his case, it boggles my mind how every section can have such cool stuff that all combines to form something so boring |
| 07:41.50 | luqui | haha |
| 07:41.59 | purple_cow | hehe |
| 07:42.34 | lurgy | there's another catchy example somewhere in the first movement of his first symphony |
| 07:42.36 | lurgy | hehe, ok |
| 07:42.39 | lurgy | well for trombone then |
| 07:43.01 | purple_cow | maybe the cool parts in the trombone are just drowned out by the boringness in the rest of the ensemble |
| 07:43.07 | lurgy | it's possible |
| 07:43.32 | lurgy | :) |
| 07:43.35 | lurgy | hmm |
| 07:45.28 | lurgy | there's always Mahler |
| 07:46.01 | lurgy | 1st movement of his 3rd symphony is a good example of low brass and horn orchestration :) |
| 07:46.08 | lurgy | you know that one somewhat though |
| 07:46.22 | lurgy | 1st movement of his 5th too |
| 07:46.42 | lurgy | that one has some nice trumpets and tuba in it too |
| 07:46.50 | lurgy | more so than the 3rd |
| 07:54.04 | luqui | the schumann is quite nice |
| 07:54.32 | lurgy | that movement anyhow |
| 07:54.42 | lurgy | the rest of it is pretty.. well.. brahmsy =p |
| 07:55.20 | lurgy | we played that excerpt last week in excerpts class though |
| 07:55.36 | lurgy | i was unfortunate to be completely in the dark about the first trombone part in that |
| 07:55.54 | lurgy | schumann (in his infinite wisdom) decided it would be a good idea to double the 1st horn part in the 1st trombone |
| 07:55.58 | lurgy | ..in the same register |
| 07:55.59 | lurgy | ow. |
| 07:56.02 | luqui | yikes |
| 07:56.39 | lurgy | top of the treble staff Eb on trombone == squeeky, on a modern trombone :) |
| 08:02.35 | ChipX86 | hah |
| 08:02.38 | ChipX86 | "hello. i am zane. i saw your name and email address on a Gaim plugins thing. i went to elementary school with a christian hammond, is that you? did you go to yujin gakuen in eugene, oregon?" |
| 08:03.41 | luqui | say it is |
| 08:03.45 | luqui | just to mess with him |
| 08:03.53 | ChipX86 | nah |
| 08:03.56 | ChipX86 | I'm too nice |
| 08:05.07 | lurgy | yeah |
| 08:05.22 | lurgy | tell hiim how you're actually a japanese immigrant |
| 08:12.50 | purple_cow | it's a good thing lurgy is here to battle the doldrums |
| 08:12.50 | lurgy | heh |
| 08:12.50 | lurgy | kerpow! |
| 08:12.50 | scanline | blah. didn't really get anything done today |
| 08:12.50 | scanline | and I'm tired |
| 08:16.16 | lurgy | :) |
| 08:17.09 | luqui | yeah, contrast, isn't it great |
| 08:17.18 | lurgy | yay contrast |
| 08:17.22 | purple_cow | hmm |
| 08:17.24 | luqui | and you invented three new words in that sentence |
| 08:18.16 | luqui | I've got legato/staccato contrast, and temporal contrast in many forms, but I need some slow/fast contrast at the same time |
| 08:18.26 | luqui | and I'd really like the piano to be the slow one |
| 08:19.48 | luqui | anyway, I think it's too early to come back in with the theme after the piano cadenza |
| 08:20.05 | luqui | but I'm not sure what else to put there :-/ |
| 08:20.51 | luqui | I suppose I could tension++ by doing my slow/fast contrast on the strings |
| 08:21.55 | luqui | anyway, that's for when I'm in windows. back to (tediously) transcribing the piano part to lily |
| 08:23.11 | purple_cow | hurray tedium |
| 08:23.42 | luqui | oh, that second movement will be fin |
| 08:23.43 | luqui | fun |
| 08:23.45 | luqui | many 64th notes |
| 08:26.23 | luqui | but admits that he hasn't researched it at all |
| 08:26.47 | luqui | but the tedium is good; it lets me look over my work and realize "oh, that was stupid" |
| 08:26.54 | lurgy | ah yes |
| 08:26.57 | lurgy | etf2ly |
| 08:27.07 | luqui | huh? |
| 08:27.15 | lurgy | comes with lilypond |
| 08:27.23 | luqui | oh.. |
| 08:27.38 | luqui | ... but he should try it |
| 08:29.01 | lurgy | like luqui? |
| 08:29.09 | purple_cow | right |
| 08:29.17 | lurgy | poor luqui |
| 08:29.23 | lurgy | untrustworthy by association |
| 08:29.31 | luqui | haha |
| 08:31.03 | luqui | why the hell is lily trying to beam the right hand on the left staff |
| 08:31.17 | kergoth | ooh, this guy on ubernet has like 7 kronos quartet albums |
| 08:31.21 | luqui | but only after a certain measure, which seems to have nothing of consequence on it |
| 08:42.29 | luqui | resoved (not understood, but hacked around) |
| 09:03.09 | CIA-8 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r7482 10music/palmer-piano_concerto/01_allegro_ma_non_troppo/bass.ly: through m.166 |
| 09:19.14 | CIA-8 | navi-misc: 03fibonaci * r7483 10music/palmer-piano_concerto/01_allegro_ma_non_troppo/piano.ly: Some of the conclusion. |
| 09:32.52 | purple_cow | time for bed |
| 09:44.43 | ChipX86 | I have a desire to work on some new gtk widgets |
| 09:45.30 | ChipX86 | I want to make a notebook with support for draggable tabs where instead of big arrows or invisible tab movement, you actually drag the tab itself and insert it into a new notebook |
| 09:45.54 | ChipX86 | and a better icon entry widget |
| 09:46.03 | purple_cow | those would be cool |
| 09:46.17 | ChipX86 | what was the other one I wanted... |
| 09:51.00 | CIA-8 | navi-misc: 03fibonaci * r7484 10music/palmer-piano_concerto/01_allegro_ma_non_troppo/piano.ly: Done with the piano notes! |
| 09:51.20 | luqui | wow, almost 1,000 lines of lilypond in the piano file |
| 09:52.17 | luqui | well, almost 900, but 900 is almost 1,000 |
| 09:52.24 | luqui | :-) |
| 09:53.14 | purple_cow | hmm, dragging tabs around could be conceptually weird |
| 09:53.30 | purple_cow | since the physical model is a tabbed notebook - do you drag entire pages or just tabs? |
| 09:55.00 | purple_cow | oh well |
| 09:57.42 | ToyKeeper | methinks you roll up the page into the tab, and drag the tab. |
| 09:58.19 | ToyKeeper | I generally drag entire tab sets otherwise. |
| 10:02.01 | ChipX86 | wow it got late |
| 10:04.03 | ChipX86 | I have almost no desire to sleep yet |
| 10:04.33 | numist | bah, I got to bed last night at 6am |
| 10:04.38 | ToyKeeper | I'm not even going to try, for at least another hour or two... maybe three. |
| 10:04.49 | ToyKeeper | I haven't been able to sleep before dawn lately. |
| 10:05.49 | numist | yeah |
| 10:06.01 | numist | not all that happy with that though |
| 10:06.11 | ChipX86 | I want to do artsy stuff |
| 10:07.20 | numist | like what? |
| 10:07.24 | ChipX86 | dunno |
| 10:07.29 | ChipX86 | I need a change in genres |
| 10:08.14 | ToyKeeper | What sort of artsy? Painting? Programming? Acting? |
| 10:08.25 | ChipX86 | drawing, vector, 3D, photo, whatever |
| 10:08.46 | ToyKeeper | Ah, the fun stuff. :) |
| 10:09.03 | ChipX86 | http://chipx86.deviantart.com/gallery/ |
| 10:09.05 | ChipX86 | my current stuff |
| 10:10.00 | ToyKeeper | I like the happy balloon. |
| 10:10.08 | ChipX86 | :) |
| 10:11.11 | ToyKeeper | Ziggy's pretty neat too. |
| 10:11.27 | ToyKeeper | And of course all the fyre. |
| 10:12.03 | numist | chip: dont you have work tomorrow? |
| 10:12.06 | ChipX86 | I do |
| 10:12.38 | numist | sounds like you wont be getting there at 11, as per usual |
| 10:12.42 | ChipX86 | might |
| 10:13.37 | numist | good luck with that |
| 10:13.55 | ChipX86 | heh |
| 10:14.34 | numist | hmm.. are you doing anything friday? lets do lunch or something |
| 10:14.40 | ChipX86 | I'm leaving town |
| 10:14.50 | numist | well I guess thats a no then |
| 10:14.53 | ChipX86 | sorry :/ |
| 10:15.47 | numist | heh, no worries |
| 10:16.02 | numist | I suppose tomorrow is planning too early |
| 10:16.19 | numist | Ive got to be in SJ anyway tomorrow |
| 10:18.47 | ChipX86 | anime eyes in vector graphics is not easy |
| 10:18.52 | numist | Ill bet |
| 10:18.59 | ChipX86 | in general they're not easy |
| 10:19.11 | ToyKeeper | Heh, no, it's not. |
| 10:20.03 | ToyKeeper | I tried to copy an anime pic a while ago... never finished it, though. |
| 10:20.06 | ToyKeeper | http://z.xyzz.org/tmp/anime-1.png |
| 10:20.27 | ChipX86 | neat |
| 10:20.33 | ToyKeeper | Hair seemed to be the hardest part. |
| 10:20.35 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 10:20.37 | ChipX86 | working on that now :P |
| 10:21.53 | ToyKeeper | http://z.xyzz.org/tmp/anime-orig.jpg |
| 10:25.09 | ChipX86 | this is discouraging |
| 10:25.14 | numist | I think Im going to force myself to sleep soon :/ |
| 10:25.17 | ToyKeeper | eh? |
| 10:25.31 | ChipX86 | I'm having nothing but trouble :) |
| 10:25.35 | ChipX86 | yours are good |
| 10:26.41 | ToyKeeper | I just copied directly from the image below it... |
| 10:26.51 | ChipX86 | vectors? |
| 10:26.56 | ToyKeeper | Yeah. Inkscape. |
| 10:27.01 | ChipX86 | neat |
| 10:27.54 | ToyKeeper | I can't actually draw... I can only copy. |
| 10:28.50 | CIA-8 | navi-misc: 03fibonaci * r7485 10music/palmer-piano_concerto/01_allegro_ma_non_troppo/ (bass.ly timpani.ly): Fixed new time change on bass part and edited timpani for what I intended (as opposed to what was written :-). |
| 10:28.56 | ToyKeeper | For this, I've mostly just bent translucent splines until they match the image underneath. It's pretty mindless. |
| 10:29.01 | ChipX86 | http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/9267010/ |
| 10:30.45 | ToyKeeper | odd |
| 10:42.56 | ChipX86 | g'night |
| 10:56.05 | ToyKeeper | It's just a wolf spider... probably the least annoying arachnid in the world. |
| 10:58.11 | rioter | pfft |
| 10:58.14 | rioter | in american perhaps |
| 10:58.24 | ToyKeeper | s/an/a/? |
| 10:59.01 | rioter | in australia, wolfspiders look enough like funnel webs to get scared |
| 10:59.12 | ToyKeeper | Wolf spiders kill other critters for me, and generally stay out of the way otherwise. |
| 10:59.22 | ToyKeeper | The ones around here don't even seem to make webs. |
| 10:59.53 | ToyKeeper | Er, at least, not very often, except for outside. |
| 11:01.01 | ToyKeeper | They get up to about a 2" leg-span here. http://toykeeper.net/photos/_dl/other/spiders/img_3373.jpg |
| 11:02.42 | ToyKeeper | One night, one of them crawled onto my bed with me, which was rather surprising, but apparently I scared the hell out of it when I moved. |
| 11:02.57 | ToyKeeper | It hopped about 5" straight up, twice, then ran away as fast as it could. |
| 11:05.51 | rioter | haha, in australia if a spider isnt a daddy long legs or a huntsman, you just assume its deadly and stay away |
| 11:06.34 | ToyKeeper | We've got black widows and brown recluses here, but everything else is pretty harmless. |
| 11:10.36 | rioter | around here we have white tips funnels webs redtails st andrews cross trapdoor mouse umm few others i cant think of |
| 11:11.54 | ToyKeeper | The only big spiders here are tarantulas, but they're about as poisonous as a house cat. |
| 11:14.45 | rioter | http://au.news.yahoo.com/050323/2/tn2b.html and we have to put up with things like this |
| 11:18.05 | ToyKeeper | Heh. |
| 11:18.56 | ToyKeeper | There was a bear running around town a few years ago, but usually the wildlife here stays away. |
| 11:19.50 | rioter | sounds like you need bear patrol |
| 11:20.00 | ToyKeeper | I suppose there is that whole west-nile virus to deal with, I guess. |
| 11:21.19 | ToyKeeper | Er, the only wildlife I see frequently are foxes, raccoons, muskrats, skunks, squirrels, and of course cats and dogs. |
| 11:21.28 | ToyKeeper | A moose once bit my sister. |
| 11:21.45 | ToyKeeper | Wait, no. That was Monty Python. |
| 11:22.21 | ToyKeeper | She does have mooses... er, um, meese.. or, uh... well, um, the plural of moose... sleep in her yard most nights, though. |
| 11:22.58 | ToyKeeper | I almost hope she gets a minor moose bite, though, so I can truthfully say a moose once bit my sister. |
| 11:25.56 | rioter | haha |
| 11:29.58 | ToyKeeper | Hmm. |
| 11:30.08 | ToyKeeper | Must.. work... |
| 12:12.18 | TD | but she does |
| 12:12.21 | TD | that's true dedication for you |
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| 15:55.23 | SleepyHead | hehe it changed my nick back.... |
| 15:55.27 | SleepyHead | weird |
| 15:58.45 | scanline | GarlicWarrior: feeling any better yet? |
| 15:58.52 | GarlicWarrior | Yes, thanks. |
| 15:58.56 | scanline | yay! |
| 15:59.01 | GarlicWarrior | Still a little stuffed up, but much better |
| 15:59.03 | GarlicWarrior | no fever |
| 15:59.04 | GarlicWarrior | huzzah |
| 15:59.34 | scanline | I haven't been getting much at all done this week... but then I guess that's how spring break usually ends up |
| 15:59.56 | GarlicWarrior | yup |
| 16:00.17 | scanline | ooh, our site's still up |
| 16:00.22 | scanline | maybe those changes I made actually fixed it |
| 16:00.22 | GarlicWarrior | OMG! |
| 16:00.27 | GarlicWarrior | huzzah!!! |
| 16:00.35 | GarlicWarrior | that would be SOOO nice |
| 16:00.42 | scanline | so I was poking around the internals of mysqlclient |
| 16:00.54 | GarlicWarrior | yes, yes |
| 16:00.57 | scanline | and it turns out it already has a connection pool, with some nice features like timeouts for expiring old connections |
| 16:01.08 | GarlicWarrior | oh goody |
| 16:01.17 | scanline | so I ditched the pool I wrote, simplified MMDataAccess.Query some more, then set up our config.xml with some params for its pool |
| 16:01.36 | GarlicWarrior | what timeout did you give it? |
| 16:01.45 | scanline | 10 seconds I think, which seemed reasonable |
| 16:01.53 | GarlicWarrior | Yeah, way reasonable |
| 16:01.59 | scanline | it still uses the defaults for min and max connections, 0 and 100 IIRC |
| 16:02.20 | GarlicWarrior | sweet |
| 16:02.30 | scanline | and if we ever do have serious problems with the pool, we can disable it completely- it will start a socket for every query which will suck, but at least it won't end up with unsynchronized connections |
| 16:02.54 | GarlicWarrior | yup |
| 16:02.58 | scanline | seems to be running plenty fast now |
| 16:03.03 | GarlicWarrior | good work harry, err micah |
| 16:03.06 | scanline | it's still touchy when initially compiling stuff |
| 16:03.17 | scanline | not sure how to get around that other than to baby it a little until it's done that |
| 16:03.33 | scanline | ok.. time to get wet and naked |
| 16:03.35 | scanline | in some order |
| 16:03.35 | GarlicWarrior | hopefully the permanent home will be load light |
| 16:03.39 | GarlicWarrior | heh |
| 16:07.29 | *** topic/#tacobeam by zak -> zak got an internship in Everett, WA! with boeing!!! w00t! capes definetly allowed! |
| 16:07.35 | zak | scanline: EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE |
| 16:07.44 | GarlicWarrior | congrats |
| 16:08.23 | zak | i am so excited! |
| 16:09.58 | TD | i just can't hide it! |
| 16:10.06 | zak | TD: be quiet! |
| 16:10.13 | zak | this is my first ever internship! |
| 16:10.24 | TD | i'm losin' control and i think i like it! |
| 16:10.26 | TD | woooah |
| 16:11.36 | lurgy | whee, WA |
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| 16:25.11 | scanline | yay, zak |
| 16:33.40 | CIA-8 | autopackage: 03mike * 10autopackage/main/package: fix copyright notice |
| 16:33.59 | TD | it's Sophie_ back from school |
| 16:38.06 | Sophie_ | allo, TD |
| 16:38.23 | Sophie_ | what are you up to? |
| 16:39.28 | TD | just chatting to people. we're having (another), uhm, spirited debate in the CW #staff channel |
| 16:39.34 | TD | a friend is trying to make me teach him C via msn |
| 16:39.38 | TD | (not gonna happen) |
| 16:39.43 | TD | chilling out basically :) |
| 16:39.44 | TD | you? |
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| 17:04.34 | CIA-8 | autopackage: 03mike * 10autopackage/visual-ldd/images/ (about exit): add the images |
| 17:16.55 | Sophie_ | oh |
| 17:17.03 | Sophie_ | sorry, grabbed lunch |
| 17:17.09 | Sophie_ | um, I'm eating lunch |
| 17:17.36 | Sophie_ | and thinking about a test I have to take later today |
| 17:17.38 | Sophie_ | brb |
| 17:20.06 | Sophie_ | been feeling icky all day |
| 17:20.12 | Sophie_ | :( |
| 17:22.44 | TD | :( |
| 17:26.29 | Sophie_ | oh well. |
| 17:48.10 | ChipX86 | Sophie_: :( |
| 17:48.15 | scanline | mornin ChipX86 |
| 17:48.26 | ChipX86 | morning |
| 17:49.28 | ChipX86 | so tired |
| 17:49.50 | scanline | :( |
| 17:59.23 | Sophie_ | oh speakers sound sooo good. |
| 17:59.52 | ChipX86 | yay screenshot posting thread |
| 18:00.05 | Sophie_ | where's that? |
| 18:00.09 | ChipX86 | http://planet.gnome.org/ |
| 18:00.58 | ChipX86 | I decided I want to write a small, perhaps online book |
| 18:01.32 | Sophie_ | fiction or non? |
| 18:01.47 | ChipX86 | non, I guess, but not really that type of a book |
| 18:02.12 | ChipX86 | "YOU FAILED! But Thanks For Trying - A Guide to Losing Gracefully" |
| 18:02.17 | Sophie_ | oh |
| 18:02.29 | Sophie_ | yeah, I'd read that. |
| 18:02.48 | ChipX86 | it would cover all kinds of things |
| 18:02.57 | ChipX86 | there will be main sections with subsections |
| 18:03.13 | ChipX86 | like, Losing In Life, Losing In Relationships, Losing In Games, Losing at Work |
| 18:03.23 | Sophie_ | mhm |
| 18:03.27 | ChipX86 | er rather, s/Losing/Failing/ |
| 18:03.42 | ChipX86 | I think it would be fun |
| 18:03.58 | Sophie_ | :) |
| 18:04.11 | Sophie_ | sounds like a fun project for a tech writing class |
| 18:05.03 | Sophie_ | for my tech writing class I wrote a manual on how to vacation at Meijer. |
| 18:05.36 | Sophie_ | Meijer is a store in Michigan that's open 24 hrs, similar to walmart. |
| 18:05.48 | ChipX86 | haha |
| 18:06.07 | ChipX86 | hmmm... "Scientists invent an alarm clock that moves around the room after going off to help get your ass out of bed. Still no cure for Cancer" |
| 18:06.42 | Sophie_ | ack. I hate waking to an alarm. |
| 18:07.03 | Sophie_ | prolly cause it's, well, alarming. |
| 18:07.35 | Sophie_ | blah, time to go study |
| 18:08.53 | kergoth | bleh |
| 18:08.55 | kergoth | ! |
| 18:09.07 | ChipX86 | mwahahhahaa |
| 18:09.10 | ChipX86 | http://www.livejournal.com/users/zestyping/97476.html |
| 18:09.47 | ChipX86 | that'd be so fun |
| 18:10.14 | scanline | hahaha |
| 18:11.38 | ChipX86 | if I had the space and time, I would so do that |
| 18:11.45 | ChipX86 | 2 days worth of work |
| 18:11.55 | scanline | yep |
| 18:11.59 | scanline | and a room with no carpet |
| 18:12.41 | ChipX86 | the intro to that is great |
| 18:12.51 | ChipX86 | "Here is a normal looking room... and here are its creators" |
| 18:13.19 | ChipX86 | yay, my screenshot appeared on planet gnome |
| 18:15.02 | ChipX86 | :( |
| 18:15.14 | ChipX86 | Planet #tacobeam! |
| 18:15.14 | scanline | I guess I just need a blog.. and I need to be a gnome developer |
| 18:15.22 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 18:17.09 | ChipX86 | I so badly want to stay home from work today |
| 18:17.49 | ChipX86 | http://www.deviantart.com/view/9267010/ that is so cute |
| 18:18.02 | scanline | hehe, yep |
| 18:19.13 | scanline | hmm... |
| 18:19.18 | scanline | so do I get back to work on this paper |
| 18:19.27 | scanline | or do I try out my freshly cleaned and lubed bike chain |
| 18:19.46 | ChipX86 | when are you heading out tomorrow? |
| 18:19.56 | scanline | I think the plane leaves at 1:00 |
| 18:20.09 | ChipX86 | and you arrive at when? |
| 18:20.26 | scanline | > From: Denver CO, USA 24Mar05 01:33pm Thursday |
| 18:20.26 | scanline | > To: San Francisco CA, USA 24Mar05 03:10pm Thursday |
| 18:20.43 | ChipX86 | so you're leaving at 1:33, and arriving at 1:10? |
| 18:21.01 | scanline | er.. isn't that in local time? |
| 18:21.13 | ChipX86 | 1:33 for you |
| 18:21.23 | ChipX86 | and then when you get here, it'll be 1:10 here |
| 18:21.27 | ChipX86 | right? |
| 18:21.32 | ChipX86 | those times are local to your timezone |
| 18:21.39 | ChipX86 | but I think we're 2 hours behind you |
| 18:21.41 | scanline | I think you have that backwards, but now I'm confused too |
| 18:21.55 | scanline | or maybe not |
| 18:22.02 | scanline | hmmkay |
| 18:22.06 | ChipX86 | they show times local to the person who scheduled it |
| 18:22.13 | ChipX86 | so it's 1:33 and 3:10 Colorado Standard Time |
| 18:22.25 | ChipX86 | which makes your arrival 1:10 Palo Alto Standard Time |
| 18:22.31 | scanline | k |
| 18:22.36 | ChipX86 | so really, you're extending your day by 23 minutes |
| 18:22.40 | ChipX86 | that's a neat trick |
| 18:22.45 | scanline | neat |
| 18:23.29 | scanline | so.. assuming it doesn't take that long to make it to the hotel, I have the rest of that night to do whatever |
| 18:24.04 | ChipX86 | nod |
| 18:24.12 | ChipX86 | we're really not too far apart |
| 18:24.15 | ChipX86 | this place is a mess |
| 18:24.18 | ChipX86 | meh |
| 18:24.23 | ChipX86 | must go to work, bbl |
| 18:27.07 | scanline | wowee |
| 18:27.32 | scanline | $135/night must be some spiffy discount rate... the web site says their rooms start at $200/night |
| 18:27.34 | scanline | damn |
| 18:28.15 | scanline | hmm, 802.11 in the lobby |
| 18:28.31 | scanline | ooh |
| 18:28.35 | scanline | and free ethernet in the rooms |
| 18:33.29 | darth_mall | scanline: =D |
| 18:33.37 | scanline | this place looks amazing |
| 18:33.47 | scanline | http://www.dinahshotel.com/ |
| 18:35.49 | darth_mall | scanline: you should get a job at vmware and just live there =D |
| 18:36.07 | scanline | hah |
| 18:36.29 | scanline | the apartment complex ChipX86|Gone is in looks quite cool |
| 18:37.19 | darth_mall | yeah... but you could be like Royal Tannenbaum, it would be awesome |
| 18:37.52 | darth_mall | you could even get yourself an Indian valet |
| 18:38.15 | darth_mall | and we'd call him Pagoda! |
| 18:39.01 | scanline | hah. this web site with my itinerary says to check in 2 hours before the flight |
| 18:39.21 | scanline | I think this is all just a conspiracy to get people to spend more money at airports, out of boredom |
| 18:47.49 | kergoth | darth_mall: you like social distortion? |
| 18:47.57 | darth_mall | yep |
| 18:48.11 | kergoth | want some? grabbed a bunch of their stuff |
| 18:48.17 | darth_mall | sure |
| 18:48.19 | kergoth | k |
| 18:48.22 | darth_mall | did you get their latest? it's really good |
| 18:48.36 | kergoth | the one with 'reach for the sky'? |
| 18:48.42 | darth_mall | yeah, I think so |
| 18:48.56 | kergoth | good stuff indeed |
| 18:52.16 | darth_mall | ^^ |
| 18:54.12 | scanline | hmm |
| 18:54.14 | scanline | printer's low on ink |
| 18:54.36 | darth_mall | hehe... Buffy the Vampire Slayer |
| 18:54.42 | darth_mall | what an awesome TV show for a while |
| 18:55.04 | darth_mall | it's a soap opera with bad martial arts =D |
| 18:59.32 | scanline | ooh |
| 18:59.37 | scanline | micah@yoshi ~ $ sudo escputil -i -u -r /dev/usb/lp0 |
| 18:59.42 | scanline | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:59.42 | scanline | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:59.42 | scanline | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:59.43 | scanline | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:59.43 | scanline | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:59.47 | scanline | now that's fancy |
| 19:01.26 | darth_mall | scanline: that's neat |
| 19:04.19 | *** join/#tacobeam purple_cow (~jupiter@128.138.74.40) |
| 19:04.26 | orchid | you and your Magenta |
| 19:07.24 | purple_cow | blarg |
| 19:07.39 | purple_cow | ctrlproxy needs to be less fragile when a server goes kerpoof |
| 19:08.38 | kergoth | someone really ought to run the damn thing under valgrind or something and see what causes it to consume all that ram |
| 19:09.15 | scanline | mmm... 21 C in san francisco |
| 19:09.30 | scanline | and -1 C wherever in Denver this is reading |
| 19:10.30 | darth_mall | silly scanline and his buying |
| 19:10.34 | darth_mall | heya ChipX86 |
| 19:10.46 | ChipX86 | scanline: where did you see my apartment complex? |
| 19:10.49 | ChipX86 | hey darth_mall |
| 19:11.23 | scanline | ChipX86: pictures on their web site |
| 19:11.46 | darth_mall | oof... great |
| 19:11.56 | darth_mall | looks like I get to convert more FORTRAN to Pythong |
| 19:12.02 | scanline | yay, pythong |
| 19:12.03 | purple_cow | yay pythong |
| 19:12.03 | darth_mall | s/g$// |
| 19:12.19 | kergoth | haha, my giganews account (usenet), on the web, says i've downloaded 33.38GB in articles since 03/06/05 |
| 19:12.24 | darth_mall | hmm... I haven't let that slip in a long time... that's a typo I have to fight constantly ^^ |
| 19:12.45 | ChipX86 | darth_mall: ah cool, never saw the site |
| 19:12.45 | scanline | hehe |
| 19:12.47 | ChipX86 | it's a good place |
| 19:12.55 | darth_mall | never saw what site? |
| 19:14.04 | scanline | hmm |
| 19:14.11 | scanline | cups is a slow download and a really fast compile |
| 19:14.46 | ChipX86 | oops yeah |
| 19:15.55 | purple_cow | hmm |
| 19:16.31 | darth_mall | tummy hole! |
| 19:24.02 | *** join/#tacobeam pagefault (~pagefault@66.199.241.90) |
| 19:24.53 | pagefault | cool |
| 19:24.56 | pagefault | re: topic |
| 19:25.01 | darth_mall | lies! |
| 19:25.01 | pagefault | zak, congrats |
| 19:25.06 | darth_mall | lies! |
| 19:25.29 | nullpuppy | oooh |
| 19:25.31 | nullpuppy | neato |
| 19:25.37 | nullpuppy | zak: you'll be up near where i live :) |
| 19:25.42 | ChipX86 | lunch |
| 19:25.43 | zak | w00t |
| 19:25.43 | ChipX86 | bbl |
| 19:25.48 | zak | i should come visit |
| 19:25.49 | darth_mall | nullpuppy: I didn't know you lived up there |
| 19:25.58 | nullpuppy | darth_mall: yup |
| 19:26.11 | zak | i am going to go on the underground tour |
| 19:26.14 | zak | sounds cool |
| 19:26.18 | nullpuppy | yeah |
| 19:26.35 | nullpuppy | i don't think i've ever actually done that. |
| 19:26.53 | nullpuppy | i might've back in elementry school on a field trip, can't remember for sure though |
| 19:27.12 | nullpuppy | when's the internship? |
| 19:27.17 | zak | well, if you feel like meeting me come along:) |
| 19:27.28 | zak | may-school starting |
| 19:27.56 | nullpuppy | hehe, ok :) |
| 19:27.59 | nullpuppy | ah, ok, cool |
| 19:28.12 | zak | yum...pimentos and cheese :) |
| 19:28.56 | nullpuppy | hehe |
| 19:29.30 | nullpuppy | pagefault: have you had any luck with the new WoW patch? |
| 19:29.47 | pagefault | yep |
| 19:29.51 | nullpuppy | grrr |
| 19:29.58 | pagefault | whats the problem? |
| 19:30.08 | nullpuppy | d3d mode, no cursor, opengl, can't start 3d acceleration |
| 19:30.22 | nullpuppy | wowfix won't fix the no cursor issue either |
| 19:32.51 | nullpuppy | i tried regular wine too, and i get error 132 there, so... *shrugs* |
| 19:35.50 | pagefault | hrm |
| 19:35.54 | pagefault | I haven't tried it in linux yet |
| 19:36.09 | nullpuppy | oh, you're in windows, that'd explain it :) |
| 19:36.23 | nullpuppy | i guess i just need to find drivers for winxp64 |
| 19:36.37 | pagefault | the opengl in wow is really cruddy |
| 19:36.40 | nullpuppy | which means i have to reboot to play though :/ |
| 19:36.53 | pagefault | I just tried opengl mode in windows |
| 19:36.56 | pagefault | and it's much slower than D3D |
| 19:36.59 | nullpuppy | it worked beautifully in cedega 4.3 before the patch |
| 19:37.21 | pagefault | and I never get any shader effects in OpenGL |
| 19:37.24 | nullpuppy | huh |
| 19:37.26 | nullpuppy | what vid card? |
| 19:37.31 | pagefault | 9800 pro |
| 19:37.38 | nullpuppy | huh, ok, wierd |
| 19:37.47 | nullpuppy | works pretty well with my 6600gt |
| 19:37.50 | pagefault | they work in D3D though under linux |
| 19:38.03 | nullpuppy | until the last patch at least... |
| 19:38.18 | pagefault | yeah I hope cedega relases a hotfix real fast |
| 19:38.23 | zak | lurgy: pokepoke |
| 19:38.26 | nullpuppy | yeah, me too |
| 19:38.34 | zak | jbot: seen lurgy |
| 19:38.36 | jbot | lurgy is currently on #devlounge (1d 9h 30m 45s) #tacobeam (1d 9h 30m 45s). Has said a total of 95 messages. Is idling for 3h 27m |
| 19:38.46 | pagefault | I would like faster D3D support though |
| 19:38.53 | pagefault | the opengl mode has some problems in WoW |
| 19:39.02 | pagefault | like you don't get a targeting circle around targets |
| 19:39.38 | zak | lurgy: tim just called, he wants to know when you guys are planning to meet in the lab, i told him that i would poke you here, but that he should email you also |
| 19:39.50 | zak | lurgy: he is heading over now. |
| 19:40.06 | purple_cow | woohoo |
| 19:40.25 | nullpuppy | pagefault: hmm, yeah, i think you're right, i thought something wasn't right... |
| 19:40.44 | zak | wow! that was quick paying off |
| 19:40.56 | zak | i can get myself a new spiffy laptop after this summer! |
| 19:40.59 | pagefault | how much slower does D3D run on your 6600gt |
| 19:41.04 | pagefault | under cedega |
| 19:42.00 | nullpuppy | haven't done any real tests since i don't have a cursor in d3d mode.. but its noticeable choppy in d3d, its smooth in opengl |
| 19:42.17 | zak | look at me, i'm sandra dee! |
| 19:42.24 | pagefault | no cursor in D3D mode? |
| 19:42.24 | nullpuppy | seen lots of posts with something like 10-15% better performance in opengl |
| 19:42.33 | nullpuppy | pagefault: yup, it doesn't show up |
| 19:42.36 | pagefault | odd |
| 19:42.37 | pagefault | I get one |
| 19:42.44 | pagefault | did you try turning on/off hw cursor? |
| 19:42.59 | nullpuppy | hmm, in x? or... in cedega/WoW? |
| 19:43.03 | pagefault | in WoW |
| 19:43.08 | nullpuppy | nope, where is that? |
| 19:43.15 | pagefault | video options |
| 19:43.25 | zak | purple_cow: if i do get a new sexy laptop, would you be willing to help me make that one into kyric? |
| 19:43.35 | zak | (i'd give this one to my brother) |
| 19:43.47 | zak | this would be in august |
| 19:43.52 | purple_cow | sure |
| 19:43.53 | zak | or even sept |
| 19:43.58 | zak | sweet! :) |
| 19:44.00 | zak | danke |
| 19:44.29 | *** join/#tacobeam Cae (~mschneide@Bloc-14.isc.tamu.edu) |
| 19:44.31 | nullpuppy | w00t! |
| 19:44.34 | purple_cow | hmm |
| 19:44.40 | nullpuppy | pagefault: thank you! i get cursor in d3d mode now :) |
| 19:44.57 | pagefault | no problem |
| 19:45.10 | nullpuppy | lower fps, but at least its playable |
| 19:45.27 | zak | purple_cow: be you going to school? |
| 19:46.06 | purple_cow | yep |
| 19:47.05 | CIA-8 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10bzflag/BUGS: notes on GL font reset for ATI cards |
| 19:47.35 | pagefault | I think ATI has better GL drivers in linux than they do in windows |
| 19:47.44 | pagefault | this same app runs like 3x faster in linux |
| 19:48.10 | pagefault | well I shouldn't say better |
| 19:48.15 | nullpuppy | haha |
| 19:48.15 | pagefault | faster is a better word |
| 19:48.46 | nullpuppy | yeah, ati finally started to care about linux i think |
| 19:48.52 | pagefault | UT2004 absolutely flys in UT2004 in DM |
| 19:48.56 | pagefault | err |
| 19:48.59 | pagefault | the fglrx |
| 19:49.06 | nullpuppy | yeah |
| 19:49.14 | pagefault | it just seems to take a crap in games with open areas |
| 19:49.23 | nullpuppy | hmm |
| 19:49.31 | pagefault | like I can go from 200 fps |
| 19:49.34 | pagefault | to like |
| 19:49.36 | pagefault | 15 fps |
| 19:49.41 | nullpuppy | ouch |
| 19:49.41 | pagefault | by just leaving a room |
| 19:50.13 | pagefault | I think some of their extensions are poorly implemented and or bugged |
| 19:50.19 | pagefault | I know ARB_VBO is bugged |
| 19:50.32 | pagefault | I have to filter it out in cedega or I get polygon corruption in WoW in OGL |
| 19:51.54 | pagefault | but they seem to be making improvements |
| 19:52.05 | pagefault | 3 months ago doom3 didn't even run |
| 19:52.28 | pagefault | and now the next release will be fully OpenGL 2.0 compliant |
| 19:53.29 | pagefault | that said |
| 19:53.39 | pagefault | I would just like xinerama support at this point |
| 19:53.45 | nullpuppy | hehe, yeah |
| 19:53.50 | nullpuppy | i'm using twinview right now |
| 19:54.03 | nullpuppy | which kinda sucks.. cause it means i have to run wow in windowed mode |
| 19:54.05 | pagefault | they have their own "big desktop" mode |
| 19:54.11 | nullpuppy | otherwise i get wierd stretching |
| 19:54.15 | pagefault | but my monitors aren't identical |
| 19:54.19 | pagefault | and I want to run at diff resoultions |
| 19:55.00 | nullpuppy | yeah |
| 19:55.08 | nullpuppy | i've got a 19" and a 17" at the same res |
| 19:55.21 | pagefault | I could do that |
| 19:55.28 | pagefault | but then I have to deal with 60hz on the 17" |
| 19:55.38 | nullpuppy | ouch |
| 19:55.56 | scanline | so.. the bad news is that it's really cold and ink cartridge prices suck |
| 19:56.04 | scanline | but the good news is that my bike rides amazingly well |
| 19:56.07 | nullpuppy | well... i gotta head off to work onw :/ |
| 19:56.09 | nullpuppy | hehe |
| 19:56.12 | pagefault | hehe cya |
| 19:56.17 | nullpuppy | cya |
| 20:01.16 | ChipX86 | back |
| 20:01.19 | ChipX86 | Indian food good |
| 20:01.25 | ChipX86 | but very yellow and orange |
| 20:01.36 | kergoth | bleh |
| 20:01.43 | kergoth | hmm.. food.. good idea |
| 20:02.42 | pagefault | haha |
| 20:02.52 | pagefault | my really crappy fix for WoW on ati cards got into the transgaming wiki |
| 20:03.15 | Cae | eh? wow? what? |
| 20:03.20 | scanline | fucking gentoo... |
| 20:03.25 | ChipX86 | want WoW. |
| 20:03.30 | ChipX86 | Jamie won't let me play it |
| 20:03.34 | ChipX86 | she's such a good girlfriend :) |
| 20:03.46 | pagefault | play together |
| 20:03.47 | Cae | no, that's evil |
| 20:03.49 | Cae | yes |
| 20:03.50 | pagefault | that way you can spend time together |
| 20:03.52 | pagefault | and play |
| 20:03.52 | Cae | play together |
| 20:03.56 | pagefault | best of both worlds |
| 20:03.56 | Cae | Trip and I do that |
| 20:03.57 | ChipX86 | she doesn't have internet yet |
| 20:04.06 | ChipX86 | she knows I don't want to be addicted to it |
| 20:04.08 | Cae | so stick a second computer in your apartment. |
| 20:04.15 | Cae | and only play when you're both there |
| 20:04.26 | pagefault | it only gets worse with each patch |
| 20:04.28 | pagefault | blizzard has gone content crazy |
| 20:04.34 | ChipX86 | we have other things we like to do when she's here :) |
| 20:04.48 | Cae | I'm trying not to make that dirty :P |
| 20:04.56 | scanline | pff |
| 20:05.00 | scanline | silly Cae and her not-dirty |
| 20:05.02 | ChipX86 | give up on trying |
| 20:05.10 | Cae | ... |
| 20:05.22 | pagefault | in this channel it's implied :) |
| 20:05.26 | Cae | *sigh* |
| 20:05.33 | Cae | anyway, what with WoW and ati? |
| 20:05.40 | pagefault | how to make opengl mode work |
| 20:05.44 | pagefault | without corruption |
| 20:05.51 | Cae | hm |
| 20:06.09 | Cae | what issue is this from? |
| 20:06.22 | pagefault | a buggy OpenGL extension |
| 20:06.24 | Cae | I'm not awake! and I use nvidia.. |
| 20:06.36 | Cae | ..except for my laptop, which is ati... |
| 20:06.42 | Cae | ..hmm. |
| 20:07.02 | pagefault | I wonder if I should use the open source ones |
| 20:07.04 | pagefault | or the fglrx |
| 20:07.14 | pagefault | I have a choice on my notebook |
| 20:09.14 | Cae | unpronouncable acronym! |
| 20:09.25 | Cae | how is Jamie doing anyway? |
| 20:10.14 | ChipX86 | really good |
| 20:10.23 | ChipX86 | going to see her again this weekend. We're both *really* looking forward to it |
| 20:10.29 | ChipX86 | this past week was good for us |
| 20:10.44 | Cae | cool |
| 20:10.59 | purple_cow | gluh |
| 20:11.01 | purple_cow | my hand just started bleeding again for no reason |
| 20:11.35 | Cae | stigmata? |
| 20:11.42 | Cae | :P |
| 20:12.58 | purple_cow | no |
| 20:13.12 | Cae | knife wound? |
| 20:13.34 | purple_cow | no, just a spontaneously bleeding knuckle |
| 20:14.35 | Cae | fun. |
| 20:15.20 | kergoth | bleh! |
| 20:15.21 | kergoth | hey Cae |
| 20:15.25 | Cae | hey |
| 20:15.32 | Cae | get a new job :P |
| 20:15.40 | kergoth | heh |
| 20:15.44 | kergoth | i quit my job last week |
| 20:15.49 | Cae | and find me some dry mount tissue and stuff too |
| 20:15.56 | Cae | hehe |
| 20:16.07 | Cae | so now what're you up to? |
| 20:16.09 | kergoth | moving back to MN for a few months, gonna stay at my townhouse with my dad for a while. figure out what i want to do |
| 20:16.39 | *** join/#tacobeam pfault (~pagefault@66.199.241.90) |
| 20:18.30 | Cae | yeah |
| 20:18.43 | Cae | hey you could always work for texas a&m ;) |
| 20:19.00 | scanline | you could work for bologna! |
| 20:19.54 | Cae | if you work for a&m you won't escape college station. if you were a student. at least housing's cheap here. and you get benefits |
| 20:19.59 | Cae | but yeah |
| 20:20.04 | kergoth | and do what for them? |
| 20:20.14 | Cae | damned if I know. |
| 20:20.19 | kergoth | speaking of odd career moves, you see http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2005/3/19/133129/548? |
| 20:20.29 | kergoth | coder turns bicycle messenger |
| 20:20.30 | Cae | programming, networking, dunno. stuff that's really eas. |
| 20:24.33 | pfault | what does A&M stand for anyway? |
| 20:27.14 | pfault | my friend is having tons of issues with linux on his notebook |
| 20:27.21 | pfault | random lockups and etc |
| 20:27.25 | pfault | it's a toshiba |
| 20:31.56 | Cae | agricultural and mechanical |
| 20:32.21 | Cae | the original two purposes for a&m to exist :) |
| 20:32.31 | pfault | hehe |
| 20:33.01 | pfault | wow EQ2 looks like ass |
| 20:33.08 | pfault | I thought it was supposed to have amazing graphics |
| 20:33.21 | Cae | we're responsible for some of the purple onions you see. |
| 20:33.35 | Cae | and random other fruits and veggies |
| 20:33.35 | pfault | ooh purple onions |
| 20:33.45 | pfault | cross breeding? |
| 20:33.48 | Cae | including maroon carrots |
| 20:33.51 | Cae | I guess |
| 20:34.26 | Cae | the maroon carrots are really yummy too. they're high in something. sweeter than normal carrots; ie don't have the slightly weird aftertaste |
| 20:34.46 | pfault | woah |
| 20:34.47 | pfault | purple |
| 20:35.03 | Cae | the sweet onions |
| 20:35.22 | pfault | I thought maroon carrots was just a name |
| 20:35.28 | ChipX86 | *sigh* |
| 20:35.28 | pfault | I didn't know they actually were that colour :) |
| 20:35.31 | Cae | I think they also modify a lot of stuff to be more resistant to disease and such |
| 20:35.36 | ChipX86 | going to end up in a debate over notification styles here |
| 20:35.39 | Cae | they are actually maroon |
| 20:35.47 | Cae | ChipX86: use a sword! |
| 20:35.52 | Cae | that'll notify em! |
| 20:35.53 | pfault | thats cool |
| 20:35.54 | ChipX86 | it's at home |
| 20:36.11 | pfault | re the carrots |
| 20:36.12 | Cae | they're still orange in the center |
| 20:36.14 | pfault | not the debate |
| 20:36.27 | Cae | so the cross section looks kinda cool |
| 20:36.37 | pfault | I wonder if I can buy those here |
| 20:36.50 | Cae | I haven't seen them for a while..been looking. |
| 20:37.06 | pfault | surely seeds would be obtainable |
| 20:37.20 | Cae | http://www.vegetablegrowersnews.com/pages/2002/issue02_11/02_11_maroon_carrots.html |
| 20:37.38 | *** join/#tacobeam samyb (~samy@212.76.88.15) |
| 20:38.01 | pfault | scary |
| 20:38.09 | pfault | trademarked a lifeform |
| 20:39.37 | Cae | yeah.. |
| 20:40.14 | Cae | seeds should be available |
| 20:41.03 | Cae | according to the gardener's association |
| 20:42.16 | Cae | http://aggie-horticulture.tamu.edu/plantanswers/publications/onions/onionhis.html and the sweet onions |
| 20:44.06 | Cae | a&m actually does a LOT of plant modification |
| 20:44.09 | Cae | oof, class |
| 20:44.12 | Cae | back later |
| 20:47.49 | darth_mall | hrm... looks like no refund for me =\ |
| 20:48.59 | scanline | yay, printer works |
| 20:49.25 | darth_mall | yay |
| 20:49.29 | darth_mall | ~cpr scanline |
| 20:49.31 | jbot | scanline: <smoochu> :-* |
| 20:49.31 | purple_cow | darth_mall: refund? |
| 20:49.36 | darth_mall | purple_cow: taxes |
| 20:49.43 | purple_cow | no? |
| 20:49.49 | scanline | darth_mall: well, I moved it to my room :P |
| 20:49.51 | purple_cow | you should be able to get a bunch back since you're a student... |
| 20:50.03 | purple_cow | scanline: could put it on wasabi for now ;) |
| 20:50.19 | darth_mall | purple_cow: it doesn't look like CU took anything out of my pay for federal taxes |
| 20:50.42 | scanline | they should have |
| 20:51.27 | purple_cow | yay, i love copying disk images over ssh |
| 20:51.27 | darth_mall | doesn't look like it |
| 20:51.32 | scanline | purple_cow: no. I need it in my room, not wasabi |
| 20:51.48 | scanline | and it's working damnit |
| 20:51.57 | scanline | I'm not moving it again until there's a good solution |
| 20:55.06 | purple_cow | heh, ok |
| 20:55.19 | pfault | oh wow |
| 20:55.25 | pfault | sf is going to implement subversion |
| 20:55.34 | ChipX86 | wow |
| 20:55.34 | ChipX86 | nice |
| 20:55.37 | ChipX86 | when? |
| 20:55.44 | pfault | limited beta testing soon |
| 20:55.47 | pfault | then they will open it to everyone |
| 20:55.48 | ChipX86 | I'm still sticking to osiris |
| 20:55.53 | ChipX86 | but hopefully gaim can be convinced to move over |
| 20:55.55 | ChipX86 | (doubt it) |
| 20:56.40 | pfault | sf is way too slow |
| 20:57.43 | darth_mall | hmm... yup... I'm not seeing any federal witholdings on these pay stubs |
| 21:00.16 | ChipX86 | I feel like taking a break |
| 21:01.05 | *** join/#tacobeam file[laptop] (~file@mctn1-3636.nb.aliant.net) |
| 21:06.02 | TD | heya ChipX86 |
| 21:06.38 | ChipX86 | hey' |
| 21:07.42 | purple_cow | yay, almost 15% done with this first transfer :P |
| 21:08.30 | TD | i hate installshield |
| 21:08.38 | TD | why did humanity get lumbered with such a ridiculous piece of software |
| 21:09.13 | ChipX86 | I hate debating notification types |
| 21:09.24 | ChipX86 | I recommended today that we move to notifications instead of dialosgs for some things |
| 21:09.43 | ChipX86 | people seem to want the "log viewer" style of notifications, with just a flashing icon in the statusbar that shows the events in a log window |
| 21:10.00 | TD | icky |
| 21:10.03 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 21:10.09 | TD | though we have no notifications infrastructure |
| 21:10.11 | TD | still |
| 21:10.12 | TD | <sigh> |
| 21:10.13 | purple_cow | the whole point of notifications is that you don't have to do anything :P |
| 21:10.16 | ChipX86 | we'd roll our own for now |
| 21:10.19 | ChipX86 | purple_cow: EXACTLY |
| 21:10.21 | ChipX86 | people don't get that |
| 21:10.27 | ChipX86 | and they say that popups are way too intrusive |
| 21:10.38 | ChipX86 | I said that they go away, but they claim it's still too intrusive |
| 21:10.54 | purple_cow | perhaps they don't realize that they're down in the corner? |
| 21:12.31 | ChipX86 | I said that |
| 21:13.20 | purple_cow | :P |
| 21:13.27 | purple_cow | just ignore them |
| 21:14.09 | ChipX86 | we're talking for VMware though |
| 21:14.11 | ChipX86 | I can't ignore them |
| 21:14.22 | TD | you win some, you lose some |
| 21:14.31 | ChipX86 | I even said that eventually our spec will be in gnome and KDE, and that if we support it, which we should, we'd get popups anyway |
| 21:14.47 | TD | heh |
| 21:14.52 | TD | you mean the spec that has to be rewritten? |
| 21:14.54 | ChipX86 | :) |
| 21:14.56 | ChipX86 | ssshhhh |
| 21:15.16 | purple_cow | ChipX86: oh. i'd wait until libnotify is standard :P |
| 21:15.31 | ChipX86 | purple_cow: I'm talking even small notifications that sit in the corner of the VMware window for now |
| 21:15.40 | purple_cow | ah |
| 21:15.57 | ChipX86 | since we don't want to stick them in the corner of the screen really, as they'd conflict with other notifications |
| 21:17.56 | scanline | ChipX86: I love mailnotify, it'd be a good example to cite of a real application that people like that uses notifications.. besides all the MSN examples I'm sure you have |
| 21:18.16 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 21:18.22 | ChipX86 | we just need to rewrite the whole thing.. |
| 21:18.24 | ChipX86 | damn dbus |
| 21:18.25 | scanline | I mean, mailnotify is intrusive, but it's easy to dismiss and it goes away when no longer needed |
| 21:18.28 | ChipX86 | BRING BACK NIL |
| 21:18.49 | kergoth | ChipX86: what was the motivation behind its removal? |
| 21:19.00 | ChipX86 | dunno |
| 21:22.27 | scanline | mmm |
| 21:22.41 | scanline | I have no idea why that was so tasty |
| 21:22.44 | scanline | it sounds downright weird |
| 21:23.04 | purple_cow | yay, up to 25% of the disk :P |
| 21:23.07 | purple_cow | scanline: what was tasty? |
| 21:23.09 | scanline | tuna, spicy mustard, a little mayo, a little orange juice, on cheddar and toast |
| 21:23.18 | purple_cow | weirdo |
| 21:23.27 | scanline | it was dry and I needed something juice-like to hold it together.. all I had was OJ |
| 21:23.29 | scanline | but it worked |
| 21:23.49 | purple_cow | isn't that what the mayo and mustard are for? |
| 21:24.04 | scanline | ChipX86: where's that trip planner you were talking to? you mentioned 511.com, but that's some generic placeholder domain |
| 21:24.11 | ChipX86 | 511.org |
| 21:24.15 | scanline | purple_cow: well, the mustard is too strong for that, and I don't like mayo really |
| 21:24.20 | ChipX86 | http://transit.511.org/tripplanner/index.asp |
| 21:24.25 | scanline | ah, thanks |
| 21:25.07 | scanline | hmm, RTD has something much like this |
| 21:25.10 | scanline | and it never works :) |
| 21:25.12 | scanline | hopefully this is better |
| 21:25.18 | ChipX86 | it's slightly better |
| 21:25.19 | ChipX86 | but it has bugs |
| 21:25.34 | ChipX86 | if you say "I need to get there within 2 hours" and it takes 2 mins, it'll still say the trpi takes 2 hours |
| 21:25.46 | scanline | hehe |
| 21:26.36 | scanline | hmm |
| 21:26.54 | scanline | is this confirmation number all I need to get my hotel room? |
| 21:27.24 | ChipX86 | and a credit card |
| 21:27.31 | scanline | nod |
| 21:27.40 | ChipX86 | you'll walk into an overwhelmingly fancy (imho) room with a reception desk |
| 21:27.59 | ChipX86 | give them the CC and number and they should give you your key and room |
| 21:28.01 | scanline | I saw the pictures on their site |
| 21:28.08 | scanline | minimum rates they quote are $200/night :) |
| 21:28.11 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 21:28.19 | ChipX86 | it's fun |
| 21:28.22 | ChipX86 | I like the robes |
| 21:28.34 | ChipX86 | oh, and you'll have a bunch of free coffee and tea and snacks |
| 21:28.35 | scanline | I can't believe they're spending all this money to talk to me for.. 6 hours or so |
| 21:28.36 | ChipX86 | no cost |
| 21:28.40 | ChipX86 | scanline: they do that |
| 21:28.43 | ChipX86 | that's nothing |
| 21:28.49 | ChipX86 | they spend a ton of money to make us happy after we get the job |
| 21:29.01 | file[laptop] | in the end it makes money! |
| 21:29.04 | ChipX86 | yep |
| 21:29.18 | ChipX86 | :) |
| 21:29.22 | ChipX86 | I love it here |
| 21:29.25 | ChipX86 | except the mail server |
| 21:29.28 | ChipX86 | everything else I love |
| 21:29.52 | scanline | it's going to be odd moving so far away, but I think if I give myself until mid-august to do that I'll be fine |
| 21:29.59 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 21:30.00 | scanline | hopefully they won't mind me waiting a few months before starting |
| 21:30.04 | ChipX86 | it just feels sad to me :( |
| 21:30.09 | scanline | nah |
| 21:30.13 | ChipX86 | scanline: they waited on one person for like 4 or 5 months |
| 21:30.21 | ChipX86 | I made them wait over a month |
| 21:30.36 | ChipX86 | they're not going to turn you down because you can't work immediately |
| 21:30.40 | scanline | ok |
| 21:30.50 | ChipX86 | they want good people |
| 21:31.20 | scanline | I'd like to do some travelling and such this summer, but that depends on money.. at a minimum I'd like a little more time to spend with friends and family, and enough time to find a place and move in |
| 21:31.30 | ChipX86 | nod |
| 21:31.44 | scanline | I have a conference to present at in early august, but I could do that from anywhere really |
| 21:31.56 | ChipX86 | hmm where are those pics of my hotel room.. |
| 21:32.06 | ChipX86 | http://chipx86.com/gallery/Events/20040714 |
| 21:32.11 | ChipX86 | at Dinahs |
| 21:32.27 | ChipX86 | :( uh oh, he'll see the real me! |
| 21:32.31 | TD | bwahah |
| 21:32.32 | scanline | wow |
| 21:32.37 | TD | then i'll do a road trip and meet both of you |
| 21:32.38 | scanline | hmm, that's something I need.. a camera that doesn't suck |
| 21:32.46 | scanline | though I guess I do have some batteries for my sucky camera now |
| 21:32.56 | ChipX86 | I loved the daily oranges |
| 21:33.00 | ChipX86 | and couch |
| 21:33.01 | scanline | its power supply exlpoded :( |
| 21:33.04 | scanline | ooh, couch |
| 21:33.10 | ChipX86 | and robe... yay! |
| 21:33.11 | scanline | and a keyboard |
| 21:33.13 | scanline | yay, robe |
| 21:33.17 | TD | robe? |
| 21:33.17 | ChipX86 | yeah, sucky webtv-type thing |
| 21:33.22 | TD | for when you stay overnight? |
| 21:33.31 | ChipX86 | oh hey look, sucky pics of me in there |
| 21:33.38 | scanline | TD: it's a hotel, you usually stay overnight :P |
| 21:33.47 | ChipX86 | depends on the plans for the hotel |
| 21:33.56 | TD | oh i see |
| 21:34.37 | TD | ChipX86: wahay! |
| 21:34.37 | TD | http://chipx86.com/gallery/Events/20040714/dsc01655.jpg?PHPSESSID=0487be6737b7b6fe234d5043bc1d0674 |
| 21:34.41 | scanline | ChipX86: how do they expect you to dress? I have black slacks and a couple dress shirts, but that's about it |
| 21:34.41 | TD | it's you looking .... smart?!?! |
| 21:35.08 | ChipX86 | TD: haha |
| 21:35.11 | ChipX86 | scanline: *shrug* |
| 21:35.14 | ChipX86 | dress however |
| 21:35.25 | ChipX86 | probably fancier than a t-shirt, but don't get anything expensive |
| 21:35.30 | scanline | nod |
| 21:35.32 | ChipX86 | around work, I tend to wear geeky shirts |
| 21:35.38 | ChipX86 | Philip goes barefoot |
| 21:35.41 | scanline | :) |
| 21:35.45 | scanline | sounds like my kinda place |
| 21:35.57 | scanline | of course, I'm not really a sandal-wearing hippie any more |
| 21:35.59 | ChipX86 | yay for a communal-feeling .com-style company with 800+ people |
| 21:36.13 | TD | lol |
| 21:36.24 | ChipX86 | can't wait to live in the forest |
| 21:36.46 | scanline | =D |
| 21:37.22 | scanline | it's weird.. I haven't ever travelled alone before |
| 21:37.27 | scanline | it's always been with friends or family |
| 21:40.12 | kergoth | "<on cell phone> yes sir. will do sir. thanks. bye." |
| 21:40.12 | kergoth | "You didn't tell your boss you were leaving the country?" |
| 21:40.12 | kergoth | "He would've stopped paying me. It seemed easier." |
| 21:42.44 | file[laptop] | should I be afraid when my boss messages me, and I say e-mail me the work and he says... |
| 21:42.49 | file[laptop] | HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH |
| 21:42.50 | file[laptop] | over and over |
| 21:44.51 | kergoth | .. |
| 21:44.56 | kergoth | that doesnt sound good |
| 21:45.01 | scanline | ChipX86: is that your cat5 or does the room come with one? |
| 21:45.28 | file[laptop] | 151 page interop test from Level3 |
| 22:01.18 | CIA-8 | winehq: 03Mike Hearn <mike@navi.cx> * 10/: [OLE #84] Don't use IsBadStringPtr on NULL pointers |
| 22:01.22 | purple_cow | darth_mall: have you subletted your room for the summer yet? |
| 22:03.33 | ChipX86 | scanline: the room comes with one |
| 22:03.41 | scanline | creepy |
| 22:04.14 | ChipX86 | no clue about hte service |
| 22:04.17 | ChipX86 | I didn't have a laptop |
| 22:04.41 | scanline | well, their web site was advertising free T1 access in the rooms, and 802.11 in the lobby |
| 22:04.48 | scanline | so hopefully I'll be online a bit tomorrow night :) |
| 22:05.22 | ChipX86 | ah cool |
| 22:05.38 | ChipX86 | I'm exhausted and irritated |
| 22:05.45 | scanline | :( |
| 22:12.47 | ChipX86 | woah! |
| 22:12.51 | scanline | hmm |
| 22:12.51 | ChipX86 | look at the videos and stuff on pgo |
| 22:12.52 | ChipX86 | :D |
| 22:13.01 | scanline | can't find Page Mill on google maps |
| 22:13.41 | ChipX86 | I would hope it would be on there, considering it's an important street |
| 22:13.58 | scanline | didn't say it isn't there, I just cant' find it :) |
| 22:14.22 | scanline | aha |
| 22:14.23 | scanline | got it |
| 22:14.24 | ChipX86 | ok good |
| 22:14.29 | ChipX86 | I was going to give directions :) |
| 22:14.48 | ChipX86 | holy shit these videos rock way too much |
| 22:15.02 | scanline | well, I have directions from vmware, and from 511 |
| 22:15.10 | scanline | just trying to figure out what it all means :) |
| 22:15.40 | scanline | hmm |
| 22:15.43 | scanline | I can't play theora :( |
| 22:15.52 | ChipX86 | get the avi |
| 22:15.57 | ChipX86 | wow I'm impressed. |
| 22:15.57 | scanline | it's 404'ed |
| 22:16.01 | ChipX86 | just wow |
| 22:16.14 | scanline | ah, the others work |
| 22:16.18 | scanline | just not the intro |
| 22:16.25 | ChipX86 | hmm, works for me |
| 22:16.58 | ChipX86 | even the color selector itself is yummy |
| 22:17.00 | TD | argh |
| 22:17.06 | TD | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:17.07 | scanline | hah, that's cute |
| 22:17.15 | TD | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:17.16 | TD | ELEMDESC*elem = fdesc->lprgelemdescParam+i; |
| 22:17.25 | kergoth | .. |
| 22:17.26 | TD | the use of IsBadStringPtr! |
| 22:17.59 | ChipX86 | I want to play with this stuff now |
| 22:18.04 | scanline | ChipX86: that's disgustingly cute |
| 22:18.06 | TD | if (!lstrcmpW(names[i+1],pdispparamsW)) hres = deserialize_DISPPARAM_ptr(This->tinfo,elem->u.paramdesc.wParamFlags & PARAMFLAG_FIN,FALSE,TRUE,&(elem->tdesc),xargs,&buf); |
| 22:18.10 | ChipX86 | scanline: it really is |
| 22:18.14 | scanline | TD: my eyes hurt :P |
| 22:18.15 | ChipX86 | I'm impressed |
| 22:19.32 | ChipX86 | scanline: is there sound in yours? |
| 22:20.10 | scanline | dunno, my speakers are plugged into my rio |
| 22:22.37 | scanline | wow |
| 22:22.40 | scanline | google map's printing works nicely |
| 22:22.44 | ChipX86 | yep |
| 22:23.16 | ChipX86 | I'm going to be soooooo happy when cairo and all this stuff are mainstream |
| 22:29.48 | TD | i simply want a working gtk theme animation interface |
| 22:29.57 | TD | the clearlooks progress bar is soooooo sweet but it's a big hack |
| 22:30.02 | TD | and breaks in any non-gtk app that uses gtk themes |
| 22:30.53 | scanline | hmm |
| 22:31.11 | scanline | you can also apparently get the latitude/longitude of anything really easily from the "Link to this page" URL :) |
| 22:31.42 | scanline | it'd be nice if these maps had a scale |
| 22:34.04 | ChipX86 | and beagle |
| 22:36.34 | scanline | hmmmm |
| 22:36.42 | scanline | the google map server is actually pretty easy to use |
| 22:36.50 | scanline | wonder how hard it would be to make a nice zoomy-opengl interface to all that data |
| 22:37.00 | ChipX86 | oh? |
| 22:37.01 | scanline | heh, that's pretty much what I'd be doing if I take the churchill navigation job :P |
| 22:37.08 | ChipX86 | heh |
| 22:39.49 | scanline | hmm |
| 22:43.19 | scanline | heh. thank goodness for bored people with lots of bandwidth :P |
| 22:45.13 | kergoth | man, thank god for having a decent machine |
| 22:45.19 | kergoth | encoding is soooooooooooo much faster |
| 22:49.31 | TD | ChipX86: check out p.g.o |
| 22:49.32 | TD | ChipX86: way cool! |
| 22:49.39 | ChipX86 | I saw, we alreayd talked about it in here :) |
| 22:49.44 | ChipX86 | it's kick-ass |
| 22:50.44 | TD | lol |
| 22:50.51 | TD | i'll go back to InstallShield shall i? |
| 22:50.53 | TD | <sigh> |
| 22:51.43 | ChipX86 | :( |
| 22:52.05 | TD | total crack |
| 22:52.06 | TD | but nice crack |
| 22:52.22 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 22:52.30 | ChipX86 | the cairo stuff is awesome |
| 22:52.35 | ChipX86 | the color selector alone |
| 22:52.51 | ChipX86 | I should play with cairo |
| 22:53.33 | TD | so much cool stuff going on |
| 22:53.34 | TD | yeah |
| 22:53.47 | ChipX86 | yeah |
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| 22:55.05 | TD | new beagle too |
| 22:55.30 | ChipX86 | dsame |
| 22:55.32 | ChipX86 | -d |
| 22:55.35 | ChipX86 | +c |
| 22:56.27 | TD | * Fixed deadlocks and races in our D-BUS work-arounds (Jon) |
| 22:56.27 | TD | haha |
| 22:58.46 | purple_cow | http://www.gnome.org/~seth/blog-images/monkey-hoot/cairo-comparison.png |
| 22:58.49 | purple_cow | about damn time |
| 22:59.06 | TD | yeah |
| 22:59.44 | ChipX86 | what's cool is that this is all actual stuff and not mockups |
| 22:59.52 | ChipX86 | not created in powerpoint or something |
| 23:01.04 | TD | yeah |
| 23:01.08 | kergoth | i'm down to 267 albums to fix the tags of |
| 23:01.09 | kergoth | woot |
| 23:01.16 | TD | they have soeren working on the metacity compositor |
| 23:07.45 | ChipX86 | I think I'll stay home tomorrow |
| 23:07.58 | scanline | hmm |
| 23:08.02 | scanline | so many KDE IRC clients.... |
| 23:08.38 | scanline | kvirc just asked for a bot |
| 23:08.38 | scanline | but ksirc is the one that CIA looks awful in :) |
| 23:08.38 | scanline | http://navi.cx/images/screenshots/ksirc-commits.png |
| 23:09.28 | ChipX86 | hah |
| 23:09.54 | scanline | that's from a while back when someone was complaining about CIA making the entire message bold |
| 23:10.12 | scanline | turned out it was a collection of awful bugs in ksirc, but I had to run it myself to determine that :P |
| 23:10.49 | scanline | hehe, to.je.spocco.com |
| 23:11.53 | scanline | hmm |
| 23:11.58 | scanline | googling for flapjack.navi.cx is interesting |
| 23:22.33 | scanline | ooh |
| 23:22.38 | scanline | CIA is coming up on 1 million commits |
| 23:22.44 | ChipX86 | wow |
| 23:23.00 | scanline | it's at 900975 now ;) |
| 23:23.06 | ChipX86 | my relationship with CIA has been longer than my relationships with every girl I've ever dated combined! |
| 23:23.13 | scanline | same ;) |
| 23:23.27 | scanline | http://cia.navi.cx/stats/total <-- maybe that should go on the front page somewhere... |
| 23:24.31 | scanline | looks like on average we should get 100k commits every 48.7 days or so |
| 23:24.37 | TD | hahaha |
| 23:24.50 | scanline | so we should be able to have a 1M commit party before I graduate :) |
| 23:25.05 | TD | do it! |
| 23:26.08 | scanline | that should do for now |
| 23:27.13 | purple_cow | yay, scanline made me coffee |
| 23:27.17 | ChipX86 | they're all just jealous., |
| 23:28.29 | TD | ChipX86: ;) |
| 23:32.35 | ChipX86 | guess I'm writing about vmware for gnome journal. Neato. |
| 23:39.11 | ChipX86 | (15:21:13) alex: "HELP! I HAVE TOO MANY HAPPY PANTS!!" |
| 23:40.40 | file[laptop] | help! my toes are eating my ears! |
| 23:43.04 | purple_cow | hmm |
| 23:43.12 | purple_cow | looks like we might need gtk-sharp 1.9 for fyre... |
| 23:43.56 | TD | huh? |
| 23:44.01 | TD | since when is fyre a .net app? |
| 23:44.07 | ChipX86 | since when wasn't it? |
| 23:44.17 | ChipX86 | the last release, that's when! |
| 23:44.30 | purple_cow | hehe |
| 23:44.35 | purple_cow | TD: we're doing 2.0 in mono |
| 23:44.45 | ChipX86 | you should render fyre in cairo! |
| 23:44.50 | ChipX86 | with an opengl backend |
| 23:44.53 | ChipX86 | think of the possibilities |
| 23:45.08 | purple_cow | well, i think we'll probably end up with some kind of vector graphics rendering element |
| 23:45.45 | ChipX86 | render to blender |
| 23:46.17 | kergoth | fuck, if i get on ubermovie, I'm _really_ going to need more drives |
| 23:46.37 | scanline | hmm.. that's a cool idea |
| 23:47.09 | kergoth | i didnt say i was buying them, just that i'd need them :) |
| 23:48.51 | scanline | woop |
| 23:49.14 | scanline | http://www.newscientist.com/channel/space/mg18524911.600 |
| 23:49.16 | scanline | cool article |
