| 00:10.46 | KeyserSoze | awwww. |
| 00:10.54 | KeyserSoze | our little file is growing up :D |
| 00:12.14 | file | haha |
| 00:12.15 | Sophie_ | they gave me some dishes and a tiny TV |
| 00:12.26 | KeyserSoze | that's sad :( |
| 00:12.45 | KeyserSoze | mine went shopping to buy me lots of domestic crap |
| 00:12.48 | Sophie_ | it was OK, I didn't want their stuff |
| 00:13.00 | KeyserSoze | and then my dad drove the moving truck, cause i wasn't old enough to |
| 00:13.10 | Sophie_ | didn't you have a high paying job though? |
| 00:13.15 | KeyserSoze | yes |
| 00:13.21 | Sophie_ | heh |
| 00:13.27 | KeyserSoze | but they bought me crap before i moved |
| 00:13.41 | KeyserSoze | and then my mom had a mini nervous breakdown :( |
| 00:13.45 | Sophie_ | what you wanted? |
| 00:14.02 | KeyserSoze | yeah. like dishes and pots and pans and silverware, etc. |
| 00:14.19 | Sophie_ | lol. I think my parents were happy, but then I was only going ~30 mins away |
| 00:15.16 | KeyserSoze | Sophie_: who's on the phone? |
| 00:15.22 | KeyserSoze | no, don't bring it here!!! |
| 00:15.24 | KeyserSoze | argh |
| 00:15.25 | darth_mall | lol |
| 00:15.35 | darth_mall | Sophie_: I do that with scanline and purple_cow all the time |
| 00:15.40 | darth_mall | hehe |
| 00:15.45 | darth_mall | hi KeyserSoze's sister |
| 00:16.03 | Sophie_ | he said hi |
| 00:16.07 | darth_mall | =D |
| 00:16.07 | Sophie_ | I heard him |
| 00:16.27 | KeyserSoze | my sister doesn't say 'hi' back :( |
| 00:16.36 | darth_mall | oh well |
| 00:16.39 | Sophie_ | the internet is a beautiful thing. |
| 00:16.55 | darth_mall | the internet rocks |
| 00:17.31 | Sophie_ | what should I be when I grow up, darth_mall? |
| 00:17.49 | KeyserSoze | can you? isn't darth_mall already darth_mall? |
| 00:18.16 | darth_mall | Sophie_: you could be a firefighter |
| 00:18.28 | darth_mall | what is your current major? |
| 00:18.30 | KeyserSoze | but, saddingly, not a fireman |
| 00:18.41 | Sophie_ | really? Cause I have, like, no strength |
| 00:18.52 | purple_cow | you could drive the truck |
| 00:19.06 | Sophie_ | and play with the dog? :D |
| 00:19.10 | KeyserSoze | Sophie_: we can lift weights together, and practice breaking down doors with axes |
| 00:19.21 | Sophie_ | my driving record is probably too spotty. |
| 00:19.30 | purple_cow | hehehe |
| 00:19.39 | darth_mall | KeyserSoze: can I come too? that sounds like fun |
| 00:19.48 | KeyserSoze | sure, the more the merrier |
| 00:19.51 | darth_mall | sweet |
| 00:20.00 | KeyserSoze | we can start a independant fire-fighting company |
| 00:20.13 | KeyserSoze | and haggle over price before we start putting out the fire :) |
| 00:20.58 | darth_mall | =D |
| 00:21.27 | KeyserSoze | lumberjack? |
| 00:21.47 | Sophie_ | the test I took said I should be a psychologist, though |
| 00:21.52 | darth_mall | ooooh... that'd be a good one |
| 00:21.56 | darth_mall | leaping from tree to tree |
| 00:22.06 | KeyserSoze | anything with an axe, really |
| 00:22.33 | darth_mall | barbarian? |
| 00:22.38 | darth_mall | some of them use axes |
| 00:22.44 | darth_mall | or executioner |
| 00:23.04 | KeyserSoze | i was hoping to use the axe on only inanimate objects, but hey, wherever the money is |
| 00:23.07 | Sophie_ | I'd be a lousy executioner |
| 00:23.33 | Sophie_ | 'cause I can't trash talk, mostly |
| 00:23.45 | Sophie_ | I think that's a good quality for an executioner to have |
| 00:24.07 | darth_mall | naw |
| 00:24.11 | Sophie_ | so probably not a barbarian, either |
| 00:24.13 | darth_mall | most executioners are supposed to be silent |
| 00:24.18 | darth_mall | except in Mel Brooks films |
| 00:24.21 | darth_mall | ;) |
| 00:24.41 | darth_mall | you're just supposed to be silent, ominous, and menacing |
| 00:25.19 | Sophie_ | would that work? |
| 00:25.31 | darth_mall | hmm... maybe you shouldn't be an executioner |
| 00:25.37 | KeyserSoze | sure, she growls, but it's not too menacing |
| 00:25.46 | darth_mall | physically awkward is not a good quality for an executioner |
| 00:27.20 | KeyserSoze | maybe combine the earlier bike messenger career, with an axe |
| 00:27.32 | darth_mall | wow... it looks like all that stuff finished upgrading successfully except for mplayer |
| 00:28.49 | CIA-8 | navi-misc: 03evan * r7386 10xchat-gnome/fe-gnome/ (plugins.c plugins.h preferences-page-plugins.c): |
| 00:28.49 | CIA-8 | navi-misc: Started our xchat_gnome_plugin thingy for getting our functions |
| 00:28.49 | CIA-8 | navi-misc: to plugins. |
| 00:31.06 | purple_cow | your bed? |
| 00:32.55 | KeyserSoze | nope, the oven |
| 00:33.00 | purple_cow | shame |
| 00:33.06 | KeyserSoze | but i like the way you're thinking |
| 00:33.22 | darth_mall | hehe... Mom's watching herself teach |
| 00:33.25 | darth_mall | it's kinda funny |
| 00:34.23 | darth_mall | KeyserSoze: you could put it in scanline's bed |
| 00:34.36 | darth_mall | not really, but I like to pretend that I do that |
| 00:34.48 | KeyserSoze | hehe |
| 00:36.22 | darth_mall | unless the thing I was putting in his bed was a pretty girl |
| 00:36.30 | darth_mall | then he might not be too upset |
| 00:38.35 | KeyserSoze | most people would be pretty happy about that |
| 00:39.00 | KeyserSoze | except gonkulator |
| 00:42.15 | darth_mall | slimspace: how would you feel if I put a pretty girl in your bed? |
| 00:42.28 | CIA-8 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r7387 10evo/publish-calendar/ (4 files): add a bunch of the publishing infrastructure |
| 00:42.40 | slimspace | I would be pretty confused, unless she were Tess |
| 00:43.58 | darth_mall | hmm... |
| 00:44.01 | darth_mall | confused, you say |
| 00:45.31 | slimspace | others would just make me wonder how they got in |
| 00:46.21 | purple_cow | hmm |
| 00:46.50 | purple_cow | scanline: we should work out what we're going to write in this paper |
| 00:47.36 | slimspace | speaking of papers... |
| 00:47.44 | purple_cow | heh |
| 00:47.46 | purple_cow | poor scanline |
| 00:47.54 | slimspace | :) |
| 00:48.46 | pagefault | taking forever to get zsnes.com back online blah |
| 00:50.40 | pagefault | hello |
| 00:51.28 | file[laptop] | looks like I can make our media gateway support a total of 16 audio codecs |
| 00:51.33 | file[laptop] | now THAT is scary |
| 00:52.07 | darth_mall | lol |
| 00:52.20 | pagefault | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:52.23 | pagefault | apple is so evil |
| 00:54.18 | purple_cow | that's no different than the "designed for windows XP" logo |
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| 01:19.05 | darth_mall | roflmao |
| 01:19.14 | darth_mall | Jack Dalton of MacGyver fame is in Sum of All Fears |
| 01:30.48 | pagefault | argh |
| 01:30.51 | pagefault | stupid ipod commercials |
| 01:31.23 | pagefault | they make it sounds like you are getting a huge deal 128mb player for $99 |
| 01:53.16 | *** join/#tacobeam lalo (~lalo@211.99.140.115) |
| 01:53.24 | pagefault | file[laptop], looks like I need my backup restored sometime |
| 01:54.24 | darth_mall | you and your backups |
| 01:54.28 | darth_mall | you should just remember everything |
| 01:55.29 | file[laptop] | silly darth_mall |
| 01:55.36 | file[laptop] | remembering stuff is for silly people |
| 01:55.44 | pagefault | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/YIQ |
| 01:55.49 | pagefault | wikipedia is so useful |
| 01:57.54 | scanline | pagefault: heh... or you could get about 150x the space for about 1.8x the price |
| 01:58.33 | pagefault | ? |
| 01:58.40 | pagefault | oh |
| 01:58.40 | scanline | referring to the 128MB ipod |
| 01:58.43 | pagefault | yeah |
| 01:58.47 | pagefault | and an LCD screen! |
| 01:58.53 | scanline | yup |
| 01:59.10 | file[laptop] | after all was said and done, it cost my friend $130 CAD for his 512MB iPod Shuffle |
| 01:59.18 | pagefault | but people will still buy it because it's apple |
| 01:59.28 | pagefault | it's not cool to not have an 'ipod' |
| 01:59.31 | scanline | people would buy a turd on a stick from steve jobs |
| 01:59.41 | darth_mall | I know I would =D |
| 01:59.55 | file[laptop] | that's because you're special darth_mall |
| 02:00.00 | scanline | heh |
| 02:00.07 | scanline | someone is emailing me asking me for help with uinput now |
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| 02:00.12 | darth_mall | and I'd get one for scanline for christmas |
| 02:00.12 | scanline | since my name's on it |
| 02:00.17 | darth_mall | and give one to lurgy for his birthday |
| 02:00.27 | darth_mall | and I'd give one to purple_cow for kwanza |
| 02:00.37 | pagefault | i'm considering a rio |
| 02:00.43 | pagefault | since everyone here says good things about it |
| 02:01.03 | scanline | it has a few annoyances, but overall I've been really happy with it |
| 02:01.10 | scanline | especially its 15 hour battery life |
| 02:01.18 | pagefault | how is it with vorbis? any bitrate limitations? |
| 02:01.22 | file[laptop] | because it's actually been 15 hours? |
| 02:01.29 | scanline | it's played everything I've put on it just fine |
| 02:02.04 | darth_mall | wow... the karma's the only decently sized HD player they've got |
| 02:04.40 | darth_mall | scanline's karma is probably the cutest I've seen |
| 02:04.44 | darth_mall | or possibly the iRiver stuff |
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| 02:08.36 | scanline | oh no, it's cwisty! |
| 02:12.10 | scanline | oh no, it's darth_mall! |
| 02:12.24 | CIA-8 | navi-misc: 03evan * r7388 10xchat-gnome/fe-gnome/ (plugins.c plugins.h preferences-page-plugins.c): Stopped causing all the conflicts from those #defines. |
| 02:13.03 | CIA-8 | navi-misc: 03evan * r7389 10xchat-gnome/plugins/notification/notification.c: Looks like this is getting the navigation tree alright. |
| 02:13.05 | darth_mall | hi scanline |
| 02:13.26 | scanline | hi darth_mall |
| 02:13.38 | KeyserSoze | hi scanline and darth_mall |
| 02:13.49 | KeyserSoze | two birds, one stone |
| 02:13.50 | darth_mall | scanline: you're back in Boulder, I take it |
| 02:13.53 | scanline | yes |
| 02:13.56 | KeyserSoze | doh, i shoulda said "hi everyone" |
| 02:14.04 | KeyserSoze | that'd have been all the birds |
| 02:14.13 | darth_mall | heh |
| 02:14.41 | KeyserSoze | do you guys know anyone who's studying human factors? |
| 02:14.44 | file[laptop] | yay KeyserSoze! |
| 02:14.56 | KeyserSoze | hi file[laptop] |
| 02:15.01 | file[laptop] | hiya |
| 02:15.02 | pagefault | I wonder if I can find fast RGB to YIQ code |
| 02:15.14 | KeyserSoze | darth_mall: like UI design, but not just software UI |
| 02:15.19 | darth_mall | neat |
| 02:15.39 | darth_mall | I think I know a guy who's got a PhD in something like that |
| 02:16.58 | KeyserSoze | a link: http://human-factors.arc.nasa.gov/web/library/library.html |
| 02:17.16 | KeyserSoze | boy, that was the least descriptive description of a link, ever |
| 02:17.29 | KeyserSoze | the http:// was a pretty good indication it was a link... |
| 02:22.49 | ChipX86 | home! |
| 02:23.11 | cwisty | sorry I'm slow |
| 02:23.38 | cwisty | hi darth_mall |
| 02:25.08 | ChipX86 | god I miss Jamie |
| 02:25.12 | darth_mall | hehe... slow |
| 02:25.18 | darth_mall | ChipX86: =( |
| 02:25.20 | darth_mall | ~cpr ChipX86 |
| 02:25.23 | jbot | ChipX86: <smoochu> :-* |
| 02:38.54 | darth_mall | and suddenly the room got quiet |
| 02:39.08 | file[laptop] | indeed |
| 02:39.24 | cwisty | sowry |
| 02:39.37 | darth_mall | you'd better be |
| 02:41.08 | cwisty | yeah I know |
| 02:43.17 | scanline | except.. I'm upstairs |
| 02:43.21 | scanline | so I use my x-ray vision |
| 02:43.43 | ChipX86 | I'm using mine too |
| 02:44.00 | pagefault | mmm |
| 02:44.01 | ChipX86 | sleeping next to a beautiful girl is one of the best things |
| 02:44.02 | pagefault | frothy coffee |
| 02:47.12 | ChipX86 | I want to create a gallery program where every image has metadata associated with it and you browse by the metadata rather than just directory structure |
| 02:47.14 | scanline | ChipX86: makes you wonder why we live in a society where anyone has to sleep alone |
| 02:47.19 | ChipX86 | scanline: yep |
| 02:47.34 | ChipX86 | and wear clothes |
| 02:47.49 | scanline | clothes help when it's cold |
| 02:47.55 | ChipX86 | so does body heat |
| 02:48.00 | scanline | yes |
| 02:48.05 | KeyserSoze | i'm sure your ideas are nice, but you might find that we'd end up low on beautiful girls |
| 02:48.17 | scanline | there are plenty of beautiful girls in the world |
| 02:48.19 | KeyserSoze | and who why would they want to sleep with every joe schmoe? |
| 02:52.15 | rioter | there are lots of beutiful girls around when have had a bit to much to drink |
| 02:52.36 | scanline | it's a good thing rioter's here with his helpful advice |
| 02:52.40 | ChipX86 | yep |
| 02:52.48 | ChipX86 | scanline: so are you heading out Thursday? |
| 02:52.53 | scanline | yeah |
| 02:52.57 | rioter | its the australian way |
| 02:52.58 | ChipX86 | nice |
| 02:53.27 | ChipX86 | google needs to write free gallery software |
| 02:53.51 | rioter | picasa 2 can generate galleries |
| 02:54.12 | darth_mall | time for some fun-filled testing |
| 02:54.41 | ChipX86 | I think I'll write Big Large Trout from scratch |
| 02:54.51 | darth_mall | dammit |
| 03:02.20 | ChipX86 | I want to write this in mono |
| 03:02.24 | ChipX86 | hmm |
| 03:03.01 | rioter | big large trout? |
| 03:03.05 | ChipX86 | my gallery software |
| 03:03.16 | rioter | ah ok |
| 03:03.52 | darth_mall | yay ChipX86 |
| 03:09.10 | ChipX86 | not sure how to design this thing |
| 03:17.08 | ChipX86 | hi Sophie |
| 03:19.44 | darth_mall | @deepthought |
| 03:19.45 | kbot | darth_mall: I bet for an Indian, shooting an old fat pioneer woman in the back with an arrow, and she fires her shotgun into the ground as she falls over, is like the top thing you can do. |
| 03:33.50 | Sophie_ | hiya ChipX86 |
| 03:33.53 | ChipX86 | how goes? |
| 03:34.10 | Sophie_ | not too bad |
| 03:34.23 | Sophie_ | I've never wanted so much music |
| 03:34.44 | darth_mall | @deepthought |
| 03:34.45 | kbot | darth_mall: The day I met Marta was the happiest day of my life, because that was the day I screwed a friend of mine out of a bunch of money. |
| 03:35.35 | Sophie_ | weird, kinda catchy |
| 03:36.53 | darth_mall | oooh... new Beck |
| 03:37.19 | Sophie_ | mhm |
| 03:37.33 | Sophie_ | d'u need it? |
| 03:38.17 | darth_mall | sure |
| 03:38.29 | Sophie_ | k, hang on |
| 03:38.57 | KeyserSoze | don't paste it here! |
| 03:39.01 | KeyserSoze | put it in #flood |
| 03:39.18 | KeyserSoze | we don't want 10's of MB or uuencoded data in #tacobeam |
| 03:39.25 | KeyserSoze | s/or/of/ |
| 03:39.29 | Sophie_ | funny funny |
| 03:39.34 | darth_mall | lol |
| 03:44.41 | Sophie_ | darth_mall, did you see the message? |
| 03:46.40 | darth_mall | yeah |
| 03:46.42 | darth_mall | sorry |
| 03:46.49 | Sophie_ | k |
| 03:46.56 | Sophie_ | just checking |
| 03:50.20 | KeyserSoze | turn it up, Sophie_ |
| 03:50.27 | darth_mall | heh |
| 03:54.55 | darth_mall | hmmmm.. |
| 04:05.09 | CIA-8 | navi-misc: 03evan * r7390 10xchat-gnome/fe-gnome/navigation-tree.c: A little debuggative cruft |
| 04:05.41 | CIA-8 | navi-misc: 03evan * r7391 10xchat-gnome/plugins/notification/notification.c: A bunch of half functioning stuff for changing the icon. |
| 04:06.23 | darth_mall | oooh... idea! |
| 04:07.14 | KeyserSoze | what? |
| 04:08.32 | darth_mall | hmm... maybe not |
| 04:12.16 | darth_mall | @deepthought |
| 04:12.17 | kbot | darth_mall: I remember that fateful day when Coach took me aside. I knew what was coming. "You don't have to tell me," I said. "I'm off the team, aren't I?" "Well," said Coach, "you never were really on the team. You made that uniform you're wearing out of rags and towels, and your helmet is a toy space helmet. You show up at practice and then either steal the ball and make us chase you to get it back, or you try (1 more message) |
| 04:13.26 | scanline | what the heck is this @deepthought thing anyway? |
| 04:13.38 | KeyserSoze | deep thoughts by jack handy |
| 04:13.44 | KeyserSoze | from saturday night live |
| 04:13.47 | scanline | heh |
| 04:13.52 | scanline | now available in bot form! |
| 04:17.20 | darth_mall | bleh |
| 04:17.39 | file[laptop] | @deepthought |
| 04:17.39 | kbot | file[laptop]: When I was in the third grade, a bully at school started beating me up, every day. At first I didn't say anything, but then I told Dad. He got a real scared look on his face and asked if the bully had a big dad. I said I didn't know, but he still seemed scared, and just a few days later we moved to a new town. Dad told me if anybody picked on me not to fight back, unless I knew the kid didn't have a (1 more message) |
| 04:18.20 | KeyserSoze | doh! |
| 04:18.21 | file[laptop] | tis evil |
| 04:18.23 | KeyserSoze | i meant to say |
| 04:18.47 | darth_mall | heh |
| 04:20.04 | Soph_Sleep | KeyserSoze: the beck is on my music drive |
| 04:20.07 | Soph_Sleep | which is shared |
| 04:20.13 | KeyserSoze | k |
| 04:20.56 | ChipX86 | wtf is with this Stargate episode |
| 04:21.09 | KeyserSoze | the one where they switch bodies? |
| 04:21.16 | KeyserSoze | or the one that's like a tv show? |
| 04:21.27 | KeyserSoze | or the one where tilk hallucinates he's a fireman? |
| 04:21.27 | ChipX86 | the new one where they go back in time |
| 04:21.39 | KeyserSoze | and meet the young gen. hammond? |
| 04:21.41 | ChipX86 | no |
| 04:21.43 | ChipX86 | *new* one |
| 04:21.52 | file[laptop] | oh with the modified puddlejumper |
| 04:22.08 | KeyserSoze | oh, SG Atlantis? |
| 04:22.13 | file[laptop] | KeyserSoze: no |
| 04:22.25 | file[laptop] | KeyserSoze: SG-1 finds a Puddlejumper capable of time travel |
| 04:22.27 | ChipX86 | now they're screwing up what the movie set up |
| 04:22.34 | file[laptop] | they go back to the time of Ra.. |
| 04:22.35 | KeyserSoze | how would they have a "puddlejumper" on SG-1? |
| 04:22.43 | file[laptop] | in order to get a ZPM |
| 04:22.46 | KeyserSoze | do they jump a shark, too? |
| 04:22.46 | ChipX86 | KeyserSoze: an Ancient left it behind on a planet |
| 04:22.52 | ChipX86 | file[laptop]: don't tell too much |
| 04:22.57 | ChipX86 | I'm not done with it yet |
| 04:22.58 | file[laptop] | ChipX86: I haven't even seen it yet |
| 04:23.12 | ChipX86 | oh |
| 04:23.14 | file[laptop] | I'm at the episode where Teal'c is trapped inside of the simulation in the chair |
| 04:23.19 | ChipX86 | heh |
| 04:23.22 | ChipX86 | odd one |
| 04:23.30 | file[laptop] | we're a little behind here in Canada |
| 04:23.47 | cwisty | night all! |
| 04:23.53 | file[laptop] | goodnight cwisty |
| 04:24.01 | *** part/#tacobeam cwisty (~default@12.15.173.34) |
| 04:24.08 | file[laptop] | KeyserSoze: so do you an Sophie actually *talk* in real life? |
| 04:25.22 | ChipX86 | they went back in time and now everything is all screwed up with SGC it seems |
| 04:25.48 | file[laptop] | Daniel Jackson is no longer how he was! |
| 04:32.16 | darth_mall | you people and your SG1 |
| 04:33.26 | purple_cow | yay, my sister's home |
| 04:33.37 | darth_mall | uhoh... that can only mean trouble |
| 04:34.15 | file[laptop] | commence attack mode |
| 04:38.33 | ChipX86 | weird episode |
| 04:38.40 | ChipX86 | weirdest one yet |
| 04:38.43 | file[laptop] | weird you say? just like you! |
| 04:38.46 | ChipX86 | yay! |
| 04:38.52 | file[laptop] | but you're cute too |
| 04:38.57 | file[laptop] | so it offsets it |
| 04:40.35 | darth_mall | bleh |
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| 04:41.44 | CIA-8 | navi-misc: 03evan * r7392 10xchat-gnome/plugins/notification/notification.c: grrr... still not working |
| 04:47.28 | purple_cow | ooh |
| 04:47.30 | purple_cow | boogle is neat |
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| 04:53.58 | darth_mall | heya sorphin |
| 05:08.40 | sorphin | darth_mall: allo |
| 05:09.14 | file[laptop] | sorphin: Master MIPS was asking jbot about you earlier |
| 05:10.00 | sorphin | file: i just /m'd sjhill, was prolly about the wedding stuff |
| 05:10.05 | file[laptop] | ah |
| 05:10.32 | sorphin | he rsvpd, i was telling him a good detail that means he could prolly stay for the reception |
| 05:10.48 | CIA-8 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r7393 10evo/publish-calendar/ (publish-calendar.c publish-format-ical.c publish-location.c): more progress on publishing infrastructure |
| 05:10.52 | sorphin | file[laptop]: so how was VON? |
| 05:11.00 | file[laptop] | sorphin: it was nice to meet everyone |
| 05:11.03 | sorphin | damn |
| 05:11.05 | sorphin | repeat |
| 05:11.13 | file[laptop] | sorphin: it was nice to meet everyone |
| 05:11.17 | sorphin | ah, cool |
| 05:11.25 | file[laptop] | sorphin: saw lots of neat new stuff, went out a lot, bought a Mac Mini |
| 05:11.30 | sorphin | haha |
| 05:11.33 | file[laptop] | I'd be more descriptive except I'm going to bed |
| 05:11.35 | sorphin | mine is sitting next to me |
| 05:11.41 | sorphin | open |
| 05:11.50 | sorphin | waiting for more memory so i can fire it up ;) |
| 05:11.55 | file[laptop] | hehe |
| 05:11.56 | sorphin | the putty knife works |
| 05:11.59 | sorphin | just have to be careful |
| 05:12.13 | sorphin | if you want it |
| 05:12.13 | file[laptop] | I'm running it on 256MB, seems to be working fine |
| 05:12.24 | sorphin | hmm |
| 05:12.37 | sorphin | well, everything i read said 512 would do best at a min. |
| 05:12.43 | sorphin | get the 1.25 or the 1.42 ? |
| 05:12.46 | file[laptop] | 1.25 |
| 05:12.51 | sorphin | ditto |
| 05:12.57 | sorphin | gonna up the clock speed ;) |
| 05:13.11 | sorphin | soon as i have a damn spot to put my scope and iron |
| 05:13.15 | sorphin | anyhoo |
| 05:13.17 | file[laptop] | haha |
| 05:13.18 | sorphin | night then |
| 05:13.23 | file[laptop] | ttyl |
| 05:21.14 | darth_mall | oh no! purple_cow is running away |
| 05:42.38 | purple_cow | oh no! purple_cow is back! |
| 05:43.45 | darth_mall | yay |
| 05:46.36 | darth_mall | now if only we could get lurgy back |
| 05:51.16 | purple_cow | if only... |
| 05:58.37 | darth_mall | if... only.... |
| 06:01.23 | purple_cow | "it looks like we're in a shooting war!" "oh hell" |
| 06:04.43 | darth_mall | yay Lyle Lovett |
| 06:04.55 | darth_mall | man he's weird lookin' |
| 06:05.28 | purple_cow | well, i've been to one picnic and a rodeo and that's the stupidest thing i ever heard come over a pair of earphones |
| 06:05.40 | purple_cow | what a great movie :) |
| 06:06.10 | darth_mall | rofl... Captain Planet |
| 06:06.22 | ChipX86 | Captain Planet! He's our hero. Gonna take polution down to zero! |
| 06:06.47 | darth_mall | ~cpr ChipX86 |
| 06:06.49 | jbot | ChipX86: <smoochu> :-* |
| 06:06.51 | darth_mall | =D |
| 06:10.53 | darth_mall | hehe... Tim Robbins is funny |
| 06:11.35 | darth_mall | he usually ends up playing such dorks |
| 06:13.50 | lurgy | hurray, spam from Treadmill K. Concludes |
| 06:14.27 | darth_mall | hmm... Altman is kinda sick ^^ |
| 06:14.32 | darth_mall | yay lurgy's back! |
| 06:14.39 | darth_mall | he can entertain me |
| 06:18.33 | darth_mall | ='( |
| 06:18.52 | CIA-8 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r7394 10music/palmer-piano_soncerto/ (5 files in 2 dirs): import initial thingies |
| 06:18.56 | *** join/#tacobeam luqui (~luqui@c-67-165-197-242.client.comcast.net) |
| 06:19.02 | darth_mall | hey luqui |
| 06:19.05 | luqui | hello |
| 06:19.35 | CIA-8 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r7395 10music/palmer-piano_soncerto/ (. 01_allegro_ma_non_troppo/ Makefile): makefile, quiet |
| 06:20.42 | darth_mall | silly purple_cow |
| 06:20.59 | purple_cow | mmm, precious bodily fluids |
| 06:21.30 | purple_cow | you didn't like movies? |
| 06:21.39 | ChipX86 | movies SUCK |
| 06:21.46 | ChipX86 | I prefer video books |
| 06:21.57 | scanline | hehe |
| 06:22.08 | luqui | for a while it was just a time-spender, if you know what I mean. Then (heh, starting with Kill Bill) I started appreciating them |
| 06:22.26 | scanline | yay, squares |
| 06:22.33 | darth_mall | hehe... Kill Bill |
| 06:22.39 | darth_mall | those movies cracked me up |
| 06:22.41 | luqui | purple_cow: how do I co the repo? |
| 06:22.50 | purple_cow | luqui: svn co |
| 06:22.55 | luqui | yeah, but what url? |
| 06:22.58 | darth_mall | especially the bits with her and her sword on the plane |
| 06:23.08 | purple_cow | http://navi.cx/svn/misc/trunk/music/palmer-piano_soncerto/ |
| 06:23.14 | scanline | no url! |
| 06:23.17 | purple_cow | darth_mall: hehe, yeah, that was too funny |
| 06:23.51 | scanline | or... yep |
| 06:24.06 | darth_mall | ~cpr scanline |
| 06:24.23 | jbot | scanline: <smoochu> :-* |
| 06:24.23 | darth_mall | take that! |
| 06:24.23 | scanline | noooo |
| 06:24.23 | darth_mall | stupid jbot |
| 06:24.24 | scanline | ow |
| 06:24.49 | scanline | yep |
| 06:25.05 | kergoth | so.. |
| 06:25.08 | kergoth | i have this doc review today |
| 06:25.09 | luqui | purple_cow: was there a problem with my htpasswd line? |
| 06:25.11 | kergoth | and no docs written yet to review |
| 06:25.16 | kergoth | so that ought to be fun |
| 06:26.28 | darth_mall | uhoh |
| 06:26.31 | darth_mall | that doesn't sound good |
| 06:26.32 | scanline | heh |
| 06:26.39 | kergoth | oh well. whatre they gonna do, fire me? |
| 06:26.41 | purple_cow | luqui: it just looks really weird |
| 06:26.55 | purple_cow | i'd forgotten how hilarious this movie is |
| 06:27.02 | kergoth | what movie? |
| 06:27.03 | scanline | yep |
| 06:27.24 | scanline | dr. stran gelove |
| 06:28.32 | purple_cow | silly scanline, typing with his toes |
| 06:28.37 | ChipX86 | Dr. Stran Glove is my favorite movie |
| 06:28.45 | scanline | nope |
| 06:29.02 | CIA-8 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r7396 10music/palmer-piano_soncerto/ (01_allegro_ma_non_troppo/cello.ly cello.ly): add some notes, make it so the score will fold multi-measure rests |
| 06:29.10 | darth_mall | hmm... is that Christian Bale? |
| 06:29.25 | purple_cow | hmm |
| 06:29.31 | darth_mall | hehe... it is |
| 06:30.13 | darth_mall | silly purple_cow, installing software in his lap |
| 06:31.50 | scanline | bedtime maybe.. |
| 06:32.01 | purple_cow | he'll...he'll see the big board! |
| 06:32.32 | scanline | bedtime maybe.. |
| 06:32.59 | purple_cow | silly scanline and his bedtime |
| 06:32.59 | scanline | :) |
| 06:36.43 | scanline | qqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqq |
| 06:37.00 | scanline | uuux!\ |
| 06:37.27 | ChipX86 | scanline: good idea! |
| 06:38.04 | scanline | bah |
| 06:44.29 | CIA-8 | navi-misc: 03fibonaci * r7397 10music/palmer-piano_soncerto/ (01_allegro_ma_non_troppo/piano.ly Makefile piano.ly): Added first 40 measures of piano part. |
| 06:47.59 | CIA-8 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r7398 10music/palmer-piano_soncerto/Makefile: generate all parts |
| 06:48.32 | CIA-8 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r7399 10music/palmer-piano_soncerto/piano.ly: ws |
| 06:49.32 | purple_cow | gee, i wish we had one of them doomsday machines |
| 06:55.36 | CIA-8 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r7400 10music/palmer-piano_soncerto/ (. 01_allegro_ma_non_troppo/cello.ly): use correct symbol for multimeasure rests, quiet |
| 06:59.58 | purple_cow | luqui: how important are the slur positions in the cello part? |
| 07:01.15 | luqui | not very |
| 07:01.29 | luqui | I did what made Finale play the right thing |
| 07:01.57 | luqui | but if something goes from not being slurred to being slurred, it's probably worth noting... |
| 07:02.16 | luqui | (but I wouldn't know exactly how) |
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| 07:05.07 | purple_cow | i'll listen to it to make sure, but i'm guessing it's just supposed to be legato? |
| 07:05.29 | luqui | yeah |
| 07:06.20 | purple_cow | well, with a part like that where the notes are important, it's usually best to use a simple bowing |
| 07:06.45 | purple_cow | so probably 4 or 8 notes to a bow, rather than 6+2+8, ... |
| 07:07.21 | luqui | oh, okay |
| 07:07.25 | scanline | sigh.. navi is so busy lately |
| 07:07.53 | purple_cow | in measure 19, are those notes supposed to be separate? |
| 07:09.41 | purple_cow | shoot! with the gun! that's what the bullets are for, you twit! |
| 07:09.58 | luqui | more staccato-like without really being staccato, yeah |
| 07:10.50 | purple_cow | ok |
| 07:15.06 | scanline | this isn't even related to the new stuff I added |
| 07:19.57 | purple_cow | heh |
| 07:20.11 | scanline | instead of an EV_* constant for the event type, he just stuck 0x7FFF in there... |
| 07:20.20 | scanline | that's way outside the range of valid event types, and I have no idea where it came from |
| 07:20.36 | scanline | and it would have been sending key release events, but no press events |
| 07:20.38 | scanline | silly stuff like that |
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| 07:33.19 | scanline | need sleep.. better sleep than I had last night |
| 07:33.23 | scanline | my parents' guest bed is comfy, but way too short for me |
| 07:33.25 | scanline | and the room is usually freezing :( |
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| 07:35.25 | CIA-8 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r7401 10music/palmer-piano_soncerto/01_allegro_ma_non_troppo/cello.ly: ha! i've got more measures than you! |
| 07:36.21 | luqui | purple_cow: ha! I've got more notes than you :-) |
| 07:37.21 | purple_cow | heh |
| 07:37.33 | purple_cow | silly lilypond and it's church rests |
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| 07:38.56 | purple_cow | luqui: is that 'cello part you sent me earlier up to date? |
| 07:40.33 | luqui | yeah |
| 07:40.38 | luqui | well... almost |
| 07:40.45 | luqui | I did the divisi you recommended |
| 07:41.15 | luqui | church rest? |
| 07:41.49 | purple_cow | look at the multimeasure rests in the 'cello part |
| 07:41.59 | purple_cow | (specifically the 3, 4 & 6 bar ones) |
| 07:42.47 | luqui | oh I get it...weird |
| 07:43.00 | CIA-8 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r7402 10music/palmer-piano_soncerto/01_allegro_ma_non_troppo/cello.ly: add some not-quite-right stuff, but commit it now so i can move downstairs to the big monitor |
| 07:48.01 | purple_cow | hmm, i don't have evince on the desktop |
| 07:49.36 | ChipX86 | I've had a song stuck in my head for several days now :( |
| 07:49.44 | ChipX86 | must find a way to get it out |
| 07:49.54 | CIA-8 | navi-misc: 03fibonaci * r7403 10music/palmer-piano_soncerto/01_allegro_ma_non_troppo/piano.ly: Through measure 53, right before the key change. |
| 07:51.01 | purple_cow | yay for traditional composey stuff being really good on linux now |
| 07:51.06 | purple_cow | what with lilypond and rosegarden |
| 07:52.04 | luqui | rosegarden, eh? |
| 07:52.22 | purple_cow | midi sequencer/multitracker |
| 07:52.36 | luqui | hmmm... |
| 07:56.10 | CIA-8 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r7404 10music/palmer-piano_soncerto/01_allegro_ma_non_troppo/cello.ly: fill up through m. 53 here too |
| 07:58.27 | purple_cow | heh, it's a lot easier to transcribe & edit when i've got the score on one big monitor and my terminals on another |
| 07:58.38 | purple_cow | rather than switching between the two on a 12" screen :) |
| 08:06.23 | luqui | I have my terminal sized so that I can see the part and my text at the same time... |
| 08:06.30 | luqui | I suppose that would be hard on a 12" though |
| 08:09.06 | slimspace | yay for xfwm4 putting new windows on the screen my mouse is on |
| 08:11.30 | purple_cow | yo slimspace |
| 08:12.11 | slimspace | hey purple_cow |
| 08:12.47 | luqui | hey, it's slimspace, that fellow who I sat next to in physics that one day |
| 08:13.38 | slimspace | you're a music major/minor too? |
| 08:13.53 | kergoth | haha, eurotrip is funny |
| 08:14.30 | slimspace | hurray for xfwm placing windows like metacity, but on the right screen |
| 08:14.53 | slimspace | that had been bugging me for so long |
| 08:20.07 | CIA-8 | navi-misc: 03fibonaci * r7405 10music/palmer-piano_soncerto/01_allegro_ma_non_troppo/piano.ly: Through measure 59, end of the exposition. |
| 08:20.42 | luqui | slimspace: were you asking me? |
| 08:21.01 | purple_cow | ooh |
| 08:21.07 | purple_cow | silly luqui and his metric modulation |
| 08:21.08 | slimspace | luqui: yeah |
| 08:22.06 | luqui | slimspace: no, but I'm a musician |
| 08:22.12 | slimspace | ah, cool |
| 08:22.40 | luqui | purple_cow: there's one part where it's awkward |
| 08:23.03 | luqui | purple_cow: I'm basically playing 6/8, but it's in C |
| 08:23.07 | luqui | should change earlier |
| 08:23.58 | luqui | ahh here it is. I change at 147 |
| 08:24.12 | luqui | should change at 137 |
| 08:29.43 | purple_cow | should i do the time change there instead? |
| 08:29.51 | luqui | yeah |
| 08:29.58 | luqui | you're not there yet are you? |
| 08:30.10 | purple_cow | no, around 90 right now |
| 08:30.29 | luqui | how come pianos have to play so many notes? :-) |
| 08:30.46 | ChipX86 | if they played so few, then they wouldn't be called pianos |
| 08:31.09 | luqui | uh... i don't get it |
| 08:31.45 | slimspace | ChipX86: :) |
| 08:32.38 | kergoth | i loved the bloodhound gang reference in that movie. "the hat! the hat! the hat is on fire!" "we dont need no water, let the mother fucker burn!" "no, that wasnt a joke. it really is on fire." |
| 08:32.42 | kergoth | heh |
| 08:33.00 | kergoth | hm, its late |
| 08:35.21 | luqui | kergoth: that movie? |
| 08:35.30 | kergoth | Eurotrip |
| 08:35.53 | luqui | ahh... had to look back in time twenty minutes |
| 08:35.59 | kergoth | hehe |
| 08:36.00 | CIA-8 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r7406 10music/palmer-piano_soncerto/01_allegro_ma_non_troppo/cello.ly: work up through the dreaded m. 90 |
| 08:36.46 | luqui | m. 90 is dreaded.. why? |
| 08:37.44 | purple_cow | the way it was notated in the score was ugly |
| 08:38.43 | luqui | what, you want to do a tremolo? |
| 08:39.57 | luqui | or something else? |
| 08:41.54 | purple_cow | naw, i just made 4 groups of triplets rather than 2 sextuplets |
| 08:42.40 | luqui | oh, okay |
| 08:42.46 | purple_cow | you've got some pretty specific articulations on there, so it seemed silly to do tremolos |
| 08:42.59 | luqui | yeah, finale likes to merge triplets into sextuplets |
| 08:46.17 | CIA-8 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r7407 10music/palmer-piano_soncerto/01_allegro_ma_non_troppo/cello.ly: add another few measures, tweak slurs and rests |
| 08:46.57 | purple_cow | ok, time to get wet and naked |
| 08:47.42 | luqui | good night... i think |
| 08:47.54 | luqui | or have a nice shower |
| 08:48.10 | luqui | or say hi to your girlfriend |
| 08:48.27 | luqui | or shutup luqui |
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| 08:49.47 | luqui | oops |
| 09:04.01 | ChipX86 | Drunk man becomes disruptive on flight. Passengers respond by killing him |
| 09:14.52 | CIA-8 | navi-misc: 03fibonaci * r7408 10music/palmer-piano_soncerto/01_allegro_ma_non_troppo/piano.ly: Through measure 83. |
| 09:22.39 | purple_cow | hmm |
| 09:22.54 | purple_cow | guess i'll get to figure out how to do cue notes as i edit this |
| 09:33.22 | kergoth | http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?t=53650&postdays=0&postorder=asc&postsperpage=15&start=0 <-useful info |
| 09:38.03 | CIA-8 | navi-misc: 03fibonaci * r7409 10music/palmer-piano_soncerto/ (3 files in 2 dirs): Fixed layout bug with weird empty staff in piano part. Small correction to cello part. |
| 09:39.28 | purple_cow | what was the correction? |
| 09:40.16 | luqui | the sixteenth note in m103 (and the next one in 104) was an octave too low |
| 09:40.54 | purple_cow | ah |
| 09:41.47 | luqui | where do you think cue notes are necessary? |
| 09:42.11 | luqui | Don't you just put those in \grace ? |
| 09:42.28 | luqui | no you don't |
| 09:42.30 | purple_cow | luqui: after a lot of the long rests, it's customary to put some kind of cue |
| 09:42.33 | luqui | there's a page in the manual about it |
| 09:42.42 | luqui | that makes sense |
| 09:44.30 | luqui | of course, you don't show the cue notes in the conductor's score |
| 09:44.35 | luqui | that could be tricky |
| 09:44.50 | purple_cow | there's a way to do it |
| 09:45.04 | purple_cow | http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.5/Documentation/user/out-www/lilypond/Different-editions-from-one-source.html#Different-editions-from-one-source |
| 09:46.45 | luqui | neat |
| 09:48.23 | kergoth | bleh |
| 09:50.16 | purple_cow | luqui: i'm gonna leave all the transposing parts to you, since i still don't understand how all that works ;) |
| 09:53.32 | luqui | transposing parts? |
| 09:53.38 | luqui | you mean like Bb clarinet, etc. |
| 09:54.29 | luqui | ? |
| 09:54.56 | purple_cow | yeah |
| 09:55.13 | purple_cow | hmm, care to explain me the slurs in m.159+ ? |
| 09:55.20 | luqui | yeah, I don't know how that works in lily |
| 09:56.02 | luqui | that doesn't mean anything in real life, huh? |
| 09:56.12 | CIA-8 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r7410 10music/palmer-piano_soncerto/ (3 files in 2 dirs): Up through m.158, including our first text script |
| 09:56.16 | purple_cow | i'm just curious of your intention |
| 09:56.26 | purple_cow | it's really strange to slur to a staccato note :) |
| 09:56.37 | luqui | the last four of every tuple are staccato, so the slur is there to accentuate that the first two aren't |
| 09:56.59 | purple_cow | ok, tenuto is a better way to notate that |
| 09:57.04 | luqui | In piano music at least, the last note of a slur is often staccato |
| 09:57.09 | luqui | tenuto eh? |
| 09:57.13 | purple_cow | a line over the note |
| 09:57.23 | purple_cow | in bowed instruments, a slur literally means in the same bow |
| 09:57.28 | purple_cow | so it's hard to do such articulations |
| 09:57.58 | luqui | what does the tenuto mean? |
| 09:58.21 | purple_cow | longer than a normal articulation (sort of anti-staccato) |
| 09:58.34 | luqui | okay |
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| 10:15.33 | luqui | hmm? |
| 10:15.47 | luqui | I don't think the bassoon part is going to be more than a page... is that normal? |
| 10:17.00 | purple_cow | for some instruments |
| 10:17.44 | purple_cow | luqui: well, it's traditional to split a part into two staves if it's divisi but is too cluttered on a single staff... |
| 10:18.31 | luqui | really, where is it too cluttered? |
| 10:18.46 | purple_cow | 161 |
| 10:19.25 | luqui | it looks okay to me the way finale did it |
| 10:21.24 | purple_cow | since i'm having trouble coercing lilypond into doing it right, i'll just agree for now :) |
| 10:22.48 | kergoth | bleh |
| 10:22.50 | luqui | lilypond is being a bitch |
| 10:23.10 | luqui | I say R1*18, and it gives me a 24 bar rest |
| 10:23.15 | luqui | I know why |
| 10:23.22 | luqui | (6/8) :-) |
| 10:24.31 | purple_cow | R1*6/8*18 |
| 10:25.18 | luqui | or R2.*18 |
| 10:26.39 | luqui | getting too big? |
| 10:26.57 | purple_cow | without an extension, a bass only goes down to E below the staff, and even with one i don't think they can handle 162+ |
| 10:27.20 | luqui | this isn't notated with a lowered clef |
| 10:27.28 | purple_cow | ah |
| 10:30.45 | luqui | I tried to check my ranges on all the instruments |
| 10:50.22 | luqui | how do you do a final barline? |
| 10:50.34 | luqui | n/m |
| 10:57.07 | luqui | that bassoon was really easy |
| 10:57.17 | luqui | well, I'm done for tonight |
| 10:57.20 | luqui | thanks for your help purple_cow |
| 10:57.32 | CIA-8 | navi-misc: 03fibonaci * r7411 10music/palmer-piano_soncerto/ (01_allegro_ma_non_troppo/bassoon.ly Makefile bassoon.ly): Bassoon part. |
| 11:03.06 | CIA-8 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r7412 10music/palmer-piano_soncerto/ (01_allegro_ma_non_troppo/cello.ly cello.ly): done with the 'cello notes. hurray! |
| 11:06.15 | luqui | you finished? |
| 11:06.38 | purple_cow | with the notes |
| 11:06.53 | purple_cow | still have to put in a lot of the dynamics and then tweak the whole thing |
| 11:07.12 | luqui | I likewise with bassoon |
| 11:07.28 | luqui | you're seeing the solo sections? |
| 11:08.31 | luqui | does lily have a "cautionary accidentals" option |
| 11:08.46 | purple_cow | solo sections? |
| 11:08.59 | purple_cow | http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.5/Documentation/user/out-www/lilypond/Cautionary-accidentals.html#Cautionary-accidentals |
| 11:09.59 | luqui | marked "solo" or "2 cellos" in the score |
| 11:10.11 | purple_cow | yeah, that's part of my next pass |
| 11:10.13 | luqui | there are four iirc |
| 11:10.15 | luqui | okay |
| 11:11.06 | purple_cow | i generally do notes first, then dynamics & text, then tweak, then proofread |
| 11:13.56 | purple_cow | luqui: err, do you mean "solo" as in "1 cello"? |
| 11:14.06 | luqui | yeah |
| 11:14.19 | luqui | what else would I (or it) mean |
| 11:14.37 | purple_cow | "solo" in an orchestral part for a sonata is used to indicate where the soloist comes in |
| 11:14.53 | luqui | ohh... |
| 11:14.56 | luqui | yeah, no. |
| 11:15.11 | purple_cow | k |
| 11:15.19 | luqui | hey, why'd you name it soncerto? |
| 11:15.23 | purple_cow | s/sonata/concerto/ |
| 11:15.32 | purple_cow | luqui: typo? |
| 11:15.43 | luqui | haha... in the directory name... |
| 11:15.44 | luqui | okay |
| 11:16.04 | purple_cow | eek |
| 11:16.07 | purple_cow | svn mv is your friend :) |
| 11:16.45 | luqui | can I svn mv remote->remote |
| 11:16.58 | luqui | otherwise it seems that I have to check out the parent dir |
| 11:18.10 | luqui | seems to have worked |
| 11:18.17 | CIA-8 | navi-misc: 03fibonaci * r7413 10music/ (palmer-piano_concerto/ palmer-piano_soncerto/): Fix directory name typo. |
| 11:58.58 | Soph_Sleep | yawn |
| 12:18.21 | CIA-8 | navi-misc: 03fibonaci * r7414 10music/palmer-piano_concerto/ (bassoon.ly cello.ly piano.ly): Set accidental styles. |
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| 13:57.08 | CIA-8 | autopackage: 03mike * 10autopackage/visual-ldd/autopackage_ldd_Sub.cpp: update credits |
| 14:03.20 | CIA-8 | navi-misc: 03fibonaci * r7415 10music/palmer-piano_concerto/01_allegro_ma_non_troppo/cello.ly: |
| 14:03.20 | CIA-8 | navi-misc: Did an accidental once-through for the 'cello part. Fixed some mistakes. |
| 14:03.20 | CIA-8 | navi-misc: Also, after giving it some thought, changed the four triplets back to the |
| 14:03.20 | CIA-8 | navi-misc: "ugly" sextuplets. We're coming from 6/8, not 12/16. |
| 15:19.29 | darth_mall | moo |
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| 15:41.38 | CIA-8 | voiceconduits: 03jcolp * 10classres/ (cr_user_accounts.cgi cr_login.cgi): |
| 15:41.38 | CIA-8 | voiceconduits: Added user level to session information and added basic user account system. You can view current users, but nothing |
| 15:41.38 | CIA-8 | voiceconduits: more yet. |
| 15:41.43 | darth_mall | boooooooooooooooooooooooored |
| 15:42.41 | Cae | so get an amusement bot |
| 15:42.52 | TD | like cae here |
| 15:42.56 | TD | she didn't take long to write |
| 15:43.06 | darth_mall | well... Cae is a monkey |
| 15:47.09 | Cae | an EVIL monkey |
| 15:47.15 | darth_mall | oh no! |
| 15:48.08 | darth_mall | at least you're not in my closet |
| 15:49.16 | CIA-8 | autopackage: 03mike * 10autopackage/main/ (ChangeLog package share/apkg-defs): Delete the package install command |
| 15:57.01 | CIA-8 | voiceconduits: 03jcolp * 10classres/ (cr_new_user.cgi cr_new_reservation.cgi cr_user_accounts.cgi): You can now add a user account with full parameters to the database |
| 15:59.01 | CIA-8 | voiceconduits: 03jcolp * 10classres/ (cr_del_user.cgi cr_user_accounts.cgi): I'm on a roll... you can now delete user accounts too |
| 16:22.22 | *** part/#tacobeam sorphin (sorphin@mewp.captainrock.com) |
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| 16:37.23 | Cae | ba |
| 16:37.27 | Cae | bah |
| 16:37.29 | darth_mall | hehe |
| 16:37.30 | Cae | bahama |
| 16:38.02 | Cae | so sleepy |
| 16:38.12 | darth_mall | nap time for Cae! |
| 16:39.51 | Cae | later on, sure |
| 16:40.13 | darth_mall | no now! |
| 16:40.15 | darth_mall | or else! |
| 16:40.44 | Cae | screw you :P |
| 16:40.52 | darth_mall | no! |
| 16:40.56 | darth_mall | ;) |
| 16:41.19 | Cae | ... |
| 16:41.37 | darth_mall | ... |
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| 16:44.37 | Cae | indeedy |
| 16:56.31 | darth_mall | blorg! |
| 17:00.34 | Cae | grolb! |
| 17:00.41 | darth_mall | moo |
| 17:00.55 | Cae | oom |
| 17:02.14 | darth_mall | f;ldskjfapoiejf alsdk fa;dkj apeoia;dk ! |
| 17:04.29 | Cae | well screw that :) |
| 17:05.30 | darth_mall | hehe |
| 17:06.31 | darth_mall | ~cpr Cae |
| 17:06.33 | jbot | Cae: <smoochu> :-* |
| 17:06.44 | darth_mall | take that! |
| 17:10.05 | Cae | noooooooo |
| 17:10.07 | Cae | ~botsnack |
| 17:10.07 | jbot | Cae: thanks |
| 17:13.32 | darth_mall | silly Cae, you're going to make jbot fat |
| 17:14.09 | Cae | they're diet botsnacks? |
| 17:20.08 | lurgy | ew |
| 17:20.11 | lurgy | nutrasweet |
| 17:21.14 | Cae | saccharin! |
| 17:21.28 | lurgy | it seems odd to me that nutrasweet is still legal to sell as a food product |
| 17:21.32 | lurgy | yay chemicals! |
| 17:21.59 | lurgy | but most especially, yay nutrasweet |
| 17:25.51 | darth_mall | mornin' lurgy |
| 17:26.04 | darth_mall | why wouldn't nutrasweet be legal? |
| 17:26.49 | lurgy | one of the byproducts of aspartame digestion is fermaldahyde |
| 17:26.56 | darth_mall | hehe |
| 17:26.57 | lurgy | which, in addition to smelling bad, is a carcinogen |
| 17:28.06 | darth_mall | didn't they show that you had to eat very large quantities of it to actually do any damage though? |
| 17:28.40 | lurgy | well, it's awfully hard to show that sort of thing for the long-term |
| 17:28.58 | lurgy | not gonna get colon cancer in a day from eating it |
| 17:28.59 | lurgy | but still |
| 17:28.59 | lurgy | ew |
| 17:32.10 | darth_mall | IIRC, someone was able to cause cancer in rats or something, but the relative amounts were pretty huge |
| 17:32.24 | darth_mall | at any rate, I prefer real sugar ;) |
| 17:37.13 | lurgy | health class a while ago.. i think the NIH has at least an abstract on research they did or something.. |
| 17:47.22 | darth_mall | there is a problem with one of the amino acids if you have a disease called PKU |
| 17:47.38 | darth_mall | L-phenylalanine causes brain damage if you've got PKU |
| 17:47.55 | darth_mall | which is something my dad mentioned |
| 17:48.01 | darth_mall | but I see nothing about fermaldahyde |
| 17:49.13 | Cae | hehe |
| 17:49.34 | darth_mall | it's great becoming less ignorant ^^ |
| 17:51.22 | darth_mall | oooh... |
| 17:54.37 | Cae | oooh? |
| 17:56.49 | darth_mall | well... I'm coming across stuff about converting methanol to formaldehyde |
| 17:57.15 | Cae | :P |
| 17:57.33 | darth_mall | lurgy: you've done a fantastic job of distracting and entertaining me =D |
| 18:02.14 | lurgy | hehe |
| 18:03.51 | lurgy | hehe, silly sleigh bells |
| 18:03.54 | darth_mall | lurgy: well... I found a number of things that say digestion turns aspartame into amino acids and methanol, and that digestion (I think) can turn methanol into formalehyde... |
| 18:04.05 | lurgy | :) |
| 18:04.08 | lurgy | dammit |
| 18:04.26 | darth_mall | so it's not outside the realm of possibility ^^ |
| 18:04.38 | lurgy | the text in this movement of Mahler 3 doesn't come from the depressing part of those songs |
| 18:04.46 | lurgy | so much for *that* paper idea |
| 18:04.47 | lurgy | whew |
| 18:05.30 | darth_mall | heh |
| 18:07.23 | lurgy | ow! |
| 18:07.25 | lurgy | heh.. |
| 18:07.25 | darth_mall | sorry |
| 18:07.28 | lurgy | "The third movement is a scherzo based on Mahler's Des Knaben Wunderhorn song about St Anthony preaching to the fishes" |
| 18:07.52 | lurgy | those must have ended up being some holy fishes |
| 18:11.19 | darth_mall | lurgy: moo |
| 18:16.37 | lurgy | yay, the oatmeal scaled linearly |
| 18:19.08 | darth_mall | lol |
| 18:20.43 | lurgy | mm, oatmeal |
| 18:23.53 | lurgy | better yet, mm scaled oatmeal |
| 18:23.58 | lurgy | it's like unscaled oatmeal except less so |
| 18:24.45 | CIA-8 | navi-misc: 03evan * r7416 10xchat-gnome/fe-gnome/navigation-tree.c: Remove some apparent cruft |
| 18:25.19 | darth_mall | morning ChipX86 |
| 18:25.46 | ChipX86 | morning |
| 18:26.08 | TD | heya ChipX86 |
| 18:26.21 | TD | have you ever figured out how to associate mimetypes with icons the right way? |
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| 18:26.35 | TD | i'm digging through the gnome sources and starting to suspect that they just forgot to add that |
| 18:26.46 | ChipX86 | TD: yes |
| 18:27.07 | ChipX86 | you put a gnome-mime-application-x-bar.png in /usr/share/icons/hicolor/.../mimetypes |
| 18:27.17 | ChipX86 | it's the mimetype icon format but with a required gnome-mime- prefix |
| 18:27.38 | ChipX86 | so in vmware, we install the application-x-vmware-foo.png and then make a symlink with the gnome-mime- prefix |
| 18:27.51 | TD | urgh |
| 18:27.54 | ChipX86 | yeah. |
| 18:27.57 | ChipX86 | it's hard-coded |
| 18:28.03 | TD | the gnome-mime prefix is *required* ? |
| 18:28.05 | ChipX86 | yes |
| 18:28.08 | TD | i seem to have a hxplay- prefix here too |
| 18:28.16 | TD | does that work for kde too? |
| 18:28.26 | TD | that's insane. |
| 18:28.31 | TD | it appears to simply not be in the spec |
| 18:29.14 | TD | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:29.22 | TD | jesus talk about spaghetti code |
| 18:30.40 | jesus | ok |
| 18:30.41 | jesus | well |
| 18:30.44 | jesus | there's spaghetti code |
| 18:30.55 | jesus | and golly is it stringy, and starchy |
| 18:30.56 | darth_mall | hey jesus |
| 18:30.59 | darth_mall | how's it goin |
| 18:31.00 | lurgy | like that? |
| 18:31.02 | lurgy | :) |
| 18:31.06 | darth_mall | oh... jesus left |
| 18:31.13 | lurgy | yeah, he tends to do that i guess |
| 18:31.14 | lurgy | =/ |
| 18:31.22 | darth_mall | jesus is fucking metal! |
| 18:31.24 | darth_mall | ;) |
| 18:32.12 | lurgy | hehe |
| 18:32.27 | scanline | mmm, fucking |
| 18:32.29 | scanline | and yay, metal! |
| 18:32.45 | scanline | hmm |
| 18:33.28 | scanline | like.. a new toilet seat! |
| 18:33.38 | scanline | ours has been broken for way the hell too long |
| 18:33.42 | lurgy | yay broken |
| 18:33.52 | darth_mall | heh |
| 18:34.19 | darth_mall | cuz that would be creepy... |
| 18:34.23 | scanline | I'm not, but you're welcome to try |
| 18:34.29 | darth_mall | no thanks |
| 18:34.33 | scanline | are you in boulder yet? |
| 18:34.36 | darth_mall | nope |
| 18:34.39 | scanline | k |
| 18:34.48 | darth_mall | parents need a new roof |
| 18:34.50 | scanline | yay, roof |
| 18:35.05 | darth_mall | yup |
| 18:35.10 | darth_mall | hmmm... nekkid and wet |
| 18:35.27 | lurgy | yay roof |
| 18:35.28 | lurgy | s |
| 18:37.30 | TD | ChipX86: i am boggling at how unprofessional all this is |
| 18:37.35 | TD | do these guys consider ISVs *at all* ? |
| 18:37.39 | ChipX86 | dunno |
| 18:37.48 | TD | it seems they made the gnome icon database work and then left it |
| 18:37.49 | darth_mall | ISV? |
| 18:37.49 | ChipX86 | I found it ridiculous when I had to implement this |
| 18:38.19 | lurgy | darth_mall: independent software vendor |
| 18:38.19 | TD | somebody should kick up a fuss about it for sure |
| 18:38.23 | TD | of course having the answers would help |
| 18:38.37 | TD | god there's a lot of cruft in nautilus |
| 18:38.40 | TD | first time druid? |
| 18:38.52 | kergoth`zzz | hmm. |
| 18:38.54 | kergoth`zzz | just woke up |
| 18:40.03 | darth_mall | lurgy: for real, or are you being silly? ^^ |
| 18:41.17 | lurgy | darth_mall: for real |
| 18:41.27 | darth_mall | oki ^^ |
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| 19:03.10 | darth_mall | hey SleepyHead |
| 19:03.16 | darth_mall | feeling any better? |
| 19:03.28 | SleepyHead | hehe did I change my nick to that? |
| 19:03.40 | SleepyHead | yes, thanks |
| 19:03.46 | SleepyHead | went to the dr |
| 19:03.53 | SleepyHead | drugs are wonderful, huzzah |
| 19:04.05 | darth_mall | hehe |
| 19:05.39 | JasonIsJason | did I really change my nick? Is there anyway that anybody else could have done that? I have no recollection whatsoever of doing that... |
| 19:06.14 | JasonIsJason | the JasonIsSick -> SleepyHead |
| 19:06.26 | ChipX86 | only someone at your computer could have |
| 19:06.35 | JasonIsJason | then again, I don't have much recollection of the last few days... |
| 19:06.39 | JasonIsJason | hehe no one else here |
| 19:07.04 | kergoth`zzz | someone mustve broken in, changed your nick, and left, without taking anything. |
| 19:07.09 | kergoth`zzz | hate that |
| 19:07.14 | JasonIsJason | haha |
| 19:07.39 | ChipX86 | slashdot got lazy |
| 19:07.48 | ChipX86 | they're not bothering with any names in the "from the .. dept" |
| 19:07.51 | ChipX86 | in a few of them |
| 19:07.54 | ChipX86 | "from the dept." |
| 19:09.20 | ChipX86 | wow, Google Print rocks |
| 19:09.20 | JasonIsJason | holy guacamole, 30 mile cordless phones |
| 19:09.58 | ChipX86 | http://print.google.com/print?id=V3CNp9l2gboC&prev=http://print.google.com/print%3Fq%3Ddouglas%2Badams&pg=68&sig=u8xBba7AqCn4DUVfWaiTvStQZyk |
| 19:10.28 | kergoth`zzz | neat |
| 19:10.35 | ChipX86 | that is so awesome |
| 19:10.36 | TD | hah lame |
| 19:10.39 | ChipX86 | it takes you to the page! |
| 19:10.40 | TD | the dept. |
| 19:11.03 | JasonIsJason | cool |
| 19:12.15 | ChipX86 | shame Table of Contents pages don't have links to the pages |
| 19:18.46 | *** part/#tacobeam lurgy (~lurgy@128.138.74.40) |
| 19:19.24 | darth_mall | oh no... lurgy disappeared |
| 19:19.37 | kergoth`zzz | so... i never finished the doc we're reviewing today |
| 19:19.46 | kergoth`zzz | i'm tempted to just say fuck it and not go in at all |
| 19:19.57 | kergoth`zzz | last week anyway |
| 19:20.14 | darth_mall | kergoth`zzz: do you really want to leave them with that kind of impression, though? |
| 19:20.32 | kergoth`zzz | not really, but going in and not having the doc i claimed i finished weeks ago isnt much better :) |
| 19:20.53 | JasonIsJason | true true |
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| 19:26.09 | darth_mall | lol... some kind of battery powered razor thingy from gilette |
| 19:26.12 | darth_mall | wb lu |
| 19:26.17 | darth_mall | erm... lurgy |
| 19:26.26 | lurgy | yay |
| 19:26.29 | darth_mall | yay |
| 19:26.33 | JasonIsJason | yay |
| 19:26.40 | JasonIsJason | it's the yay stair-effect |
| 19:26.46 | darth_mall | hehe |
| 19:27.33 | JasonIsJason | nothing like dragging motorized knives across your face... |
| 19:27.41 | JasonIsJason | mmm mmm mmm |
| 19:29.05 | scanline | is this new thing different than your usual electric rotary razor? |
| 19:29.27 | darth_mall | scanline: it's like my razor, but with a battery for some reason |
| 19:29.35 | scanline | huh |
| 19:29.47 | darth_mall | and they didn't say what the battery was powering |
| 19:29.53 | darth_mall | just that there was a battery and a button |
| 19:30.04 | darth_mall | and that you push the button to make the car go faster or something |
| 19:30.09 | scanline | well damn, I should start selling my own line of household objects with batteries and buttons |
| 19:30.18 | scanline | I need to make a battery-powered sponge |
| 19:30.24 | darth_mall | hehe |
| 19:30.28 | JasonIsJason | haha |
| 19:30.34 | numist | darth_mall: it vibrates to allow the blades to be closer without cutting yourself or somesuch |
| 19:30.41 | darth_mall | lol |
| 19:30.52 | numist | iirc anyway |
| 19:31.09 | numist | mmmm sexy |
| 19:31.12 | darth_mall | I guess the "adding another blade gives you a closer shave" thing stopped working? |
| 19:31.35 | numist | yeah, it stopped at 3, if the quadro's disapointing sales arent any indication |
| 19:32.27 | numist | s/arent/are |
| 19:39.27 | JasonIsJason | no doubt someday someone is going to try 5 though. |
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| 19:48.29 | darth_mall | blargh |
| 19:52.33 | *** part/#tacobeam JasonIsJason (~Jason@smct43-92-dhcp.resnet.colorado.edu) |
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| 19:59.19 | darth_mall | yay hardwire |
| 19:59.25 | hardwire | yay me |
| 19:59.31 | darth_mall | =D |
| 20:00.23 | hardwire | :) |
| 20:00.34 | *** part/#tacobeam hardwire (~hardwire@209.112.194.45) |
| 20:12.34 | darth_mall | ploo |
| 20:18.45 | lurgy | ow |
| 20:18.50 | darth_mall | hehe |
| 20:18.52 | darth_mall | take that! |
| 20:27.28 | lurgy | ohmygosh Cae is back again |
| 20:27.30 | lurgy | twice in one day! |
| 20:27.35 | darth_mall | hehe |
| 20:27.40 | darth_mall | lurgy: whatcha doin? |
| 20:28.22 | Cae | lurgy: bot yes |
| 20:29.39 | lurgy | jbot: yes |
| 20:29.40 | jbot | You don't say! |
| 20:29.43 | darth_mall | hehe |
| 20:29.46 | darth_mall | silly bot |
| 20:29.51 | lurgy | trix are for kids |
| 20:29.58 | lurgy | Cae: :) |
| 20:30.03 | darth_mall | damn long ears trying to take easter away from Jesus |
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| 20:38.43 | lurgy | darth_mall: workin on stuff |
| 20:38.53 | lurgy | and downloading the HGttG trailer |
| 20:48.57 | darth_mall | silly lurgy |
| 20:49.13 | darth_mall | hrm... |
| 20:52.34 | ChipX86 | yay back |
| 20:52.38 | darth_mall | yay =D |
| 20:54.20 | ChipX86 | can anyone access osiris.chipx86.com? |
| 20:58.19 | CIA-8 | navi-misc: 03evan * r7417 10xchat-gnome/fe-gnome/ (connect-dialog.c navigation-tree.c navigation-tree.h): Woo! connection dialog doesn't create new connections for existing connections. |
| 21:01.14 | ChipX86 | oh oops, didn't set the proxy |
| 21:01.15 | CIA-8 | navi-misc: 03evan * r7418 10xchat-gnome/fe-gnome/ (connect-dialog.c navigation-tree.c): remove debuggative cruft |
| 21:02.45 | CIA-8 | navi-misc: 03evan * r7419 10xchat-gnome/fe-gnome/ (connect-dialog.c navigation-tree.c navigation-tree.h): rename navigation_tree_server_connected |
| 21:15.26 | darth_mall | purple_cow: I encourage you to 7up your xchat-gnome and tell me if that's what you wanted for the connect dialog |
| 21:15.28 | darth_mall | ^^ |
| 21:15.53 | purple_cow | it sounds like it |
| 21:21.47 | CIA-8 | navi-misc: 03evan * r7420 10xchat-gnome/fe-gnome/navigation-tree.c: couple of comments |
| 21:25.10 | lurgy | linux needs an oregon trail port =p |
| 21:26.56 | darth_mall | hehe |
| 21:27.20 | scanline | lurgy: thursday |
| 21:27.26 | scanline | lurgy: and I get back really late friday |
| 21:28.15 | scanline | purple_cow: $13.99 |
| 21:28.33 | purple_cow | so about $5 after tax? |
| 21:28.46 | scanline | sure |
| 21:29.00 | scanline | and after the installation fee ;) |
| 21:31.35 | purple_cow | heh |
| 21:31.42 | lurgy | scanline: nod |
| 21:31.44 | lurgy | scanline: :) |
| 21:33.55 | purple_cow | ooh |
| 21:33.56 | purple_cow | http://wiki.xiph.org/index.php/OggMNG |
| 21:38.13 | purple_cow | pablo picasso was never called an asshole, not like you |
| 21:39.14 | purple_cow | what an awesome song |
| 21:39.23 | purple_cow | in fact, what an awesome album |
| 21:42.15 | darth_mall | heya slimspace |
| 21:42.51 | slimspace | hey darth_mall |
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| 21:54.41 | lurgy | hmm, i should make.. recital posters! |
| 21:55.14 | darth_mall | oooh... recital posters |
| 21:56.01 | lurgy | better yet |
| 21:56.02 | darth_mall | tacos rule! |
| 21:56.24 | darth_mall | tacos rule! |
| 21:56.51 | lurgy | ooh |
| 21:57.31 | lurgy | or a picture of Roger Ebert, labelled "Just one of the countless celebrities who will not be attending this concert." |
| 21:57.41 | darth_mall | you could do them all ^^ |
| 21:57.59 | lurgy | hehe |
| 21:58.13 | darth_mall | no reason you can only have one layout, is there? |
| 21:58.18 | lurgy | 'course not |
| 21:58.22 | darth_mall | ^^ |
| 21:58.40 | lurgy | :) |
| 21:58.40 | darth_mall | =) |
| 21:59.37 | lurgy | "Some of the works not played on this program were Stravinsky, Bartok, Ligeti and Schoenberg" |
| 21:59.37 | Cae | hmm |
| 21:59.41 | lurgy | er |
| 21:59.47 | lurgy | "Some of the works not played on this program were composed by Stravinsky, Bartok, Ligeti and Schoenberg" |
| 21:59.48 | Cae | lager |
| 22:00.39 | darth_mall | lurgy: I think I liked the 2nd and 3rd ideas best, so far |
| 22:00.41 | lurgy | "Come to a recital the evening of Sunday, April 24th, to enjoy an evening completely devoid of Stravinsky, Mozart, Bach, and more!" |
| 22:01.01 | purple_cow | heh |
| 22:02.19 | lurgy | darth_mall: me too |
| 22:03.31 | darth_mall | hehe... the last one is pretty good too |
| 22:07.07 | lurgy | "Come see all of the entire solo trombone oeuvres of Vivaldi, Beethoven, Puccini, Hindemith, Liszt, Sibelius IN ONE NIGHT!" |
| 22:08.19 | purple_cow | hurray scanline! |
| 22:08.59 | scanline | hmm! |
| 22:09.24 | scanline | so this toilet seat seemed to be the least atrocious one that McGuckins carried |
| 22:10.53 | scanline | so safeway will give you rolls of quarters if you ask? |
| 22:11.36 | purple_cow | yep |
| 22:11.36 | purple_cow | you have to give them $10 |
| 22:11.36 | scanline | cash? |
| 22:11.36 | purple_cow | not necessarily |
| 22:11.46 | scanline | a lot of places won't do cash back from a credit card, but they'll exchange it for other cash or for checks |
| 22:11.53 | scanline | either way, I probably have a $20 bill around here somewhere |
| 22:12.10 | purple_cow | well, you've got a check card right? |
| 22:12.19 | scanline | yeah |
| 22:12.33 | ChipX86 | what day are you flying out? |
| 22:13.06 | darth_mall | scanline: they do cash back on check cards |
| 22:13.22 | scanline | pff.. this is silly.. I got a new ATM card, but not a new check card |
| 22:13.27 | darth_mall | same thing |
| 22:13.30 | darth_mall | should be |
| 22:13.32 | darth_mall | maybe... |
| 22:13.34 | scanline | no |
| 22:13.48 | scanline | they should have just sent me a new check card, and set that one up so I can use it at ATMs |
| 22:14.00 | scanline | but now I still have two cards for no reason, and my check card still needs to be renewed |
| 22:14.13 | file[laptop] | silly American banks |
| 22:14.30 | ChipX86 | silly unamerican banks |
| 22:14.46 | file[laptop] | silly ChipX86 too |
| 22:14.55 | scanline | ChipX86: I'm flying out thursday afternoon, coming back friday evening |
| 22:15.02 | ChipX86 | ah ok |
| 22:15.07 | ChipX86 | so the interview is Friday then |
| 22:16.11 | scanline | yes |
| 22:16.19 | ChipX86 | nifty |
| 22:16.46 | scanline | purple_cow: are you making coffee? |
| 22:17.01 | purple_cow | thinking about it |
| 22:17.11 | scanline | er, hmm.. maybe we should go to safeway first |
| 22:17.12 | slimspace | wow... |
| 22:17.16 | scanline | we have very little to put in coffee right now |
| 22:17.33 | scanline | oh, you got half&half? |
| 22:17.50 | purple_cow | if by half&half, you mean human blood, then no |
| 22:17.51 | ChipX86 | I'm just now starting to work :/ |
| 22:17.55 | scanline | okay... |
| 22:18.08 | file[laptop] | ChipX86: Don't make me tell your boss |
| 22:18.15 | ChipX86 | my boss is at home |
| 22:18.23 | file[laptop] | so? still near a phone and e-mail! |
| 22:18.49 | slimspace | scanline: the micronet code is supposed to queue commands, isn't it? |
| 22:19.00 | scanline | yes |
| 22:19.14 | scanline | that's the main job of the micronet bus master |
| 22:19.55 | slimspace | ok, because I'm doing a run-through of parts of this procedure on the test box, and sensor monitoring through sendalls seems to be working, but while that's running, if I send a command through a state change, I'm getting lots of incorrect echo sizes. |
| 22:20.01 | slimspace | and sometimes the command doesn't work. |
| 22:20.16 | scanline | so that's what we in the industry call a bug :P |
| 22:20.24 | slimspace | yeah... |
| 22:20.32 | slimspace | one that's gonna cause big problems for this test. |
| 22:20.36 | scanline | so fix it |
| 22:20.40 | scanline | ;) |
| 22:21.03 | darth_mall | grrr |
| 22:21.08 | slimspace | and will have almost no time to, due to an event with Tess... |
| 22:21.29 | slimspace | maybe I can work some tonight. |
| 22:21.51 | scanline | if you can send me some info on reproducing the problem, I'll take a look at it |
| 22:22.17 | scanline | you could even, like, add it to the bugs file or to a bug tracker of some sort |
| 22:22.40 | slimspace | true |
| 22:22.58 | slimspace | well, it seems repeatable if there's a lot of micronet sensors going, and you say try and flip a relay. |
| 22:23.11 | slimspace | I can give you a transcript, but I'm gonna try and hunt it down myself. |
| 22:23.15 | slimspace | It may just be a bug in my code. |
| 22:23.38 | scanline | well, there are three possibilities that come to mind.. |
| 22:23.51 | scanline | 1. The queueing code is broken, and some commands are overlapping |
| 22:24.02 | scanline | 2. Somehow you're bypassing the queue, and commands are being sent concurrently |
| 22:24.26 | scanline | 3. The relay is causing electrical noise in the system that's disrupting a few sensors (very likely in the real satellite, almost impossible in the test box) |
| 22:25.02 | slimspace | I know 3 happens with the mnet relay on the satellite, but it's never happened on the test box. |
| 22:25.03 | scanline | purple_cow: coffee |
| 22:25.10 | scanline | the test box has no mnet relay |
| 22:25.17 | slimspace | yeah, just I/Os on the CD |
| 22:25.30 | scanline | its mnet relay is a LED ;) |
| 22:25.35 | slimspace | hehe |
| 22:26.00 | scanline | purple_cow: well fine! I'll make my own coffee... with blackjack, and cinnamon! |
| 22:28.58 | darth_mall | well... this is annoying |
| 22:29.02 | darth_mall | the stuff I've got for removing a server from the navigation tree crashes xchat, and when I try and get a backtrace the whole thing just disappears =\ |
| 22:29.57 | darth_mall | hmm... |
| 22:31.27 | slimspace | hmm...ok, only seems to happen when there's lots of sensors going... |
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| 22:33.00 | ChipX86 | hey numist |
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| 22:37.31 | pagefault | sebFlyte writes "Spurred on by the iPod, Apple's share of the desktop computer market will grow to five percent (from three percent) this year, according to research from Morgan Stanley. Apparrently nearly 20% of iPod users surveyed are planning to switch to Macs, and the sales figures for the last few quarters are backing up the theory of the iPod Halo Effect. All this suggests the question ... how many iPod-touting Slashdotte |
| 22:37.31 | pagefault | rs are thinking of switching?" |
| 22:37.33 | pagefault | wtf? |
| 22:37.51 | ChipX86 | hah |
| 22:37.59 | ChipX86 | the iPod gets wayyy too much attention |
| 22:38.03 | ChipX86 | maybe I'd like it if it could play oggs |
| 22:38.36 | pagefault | it needs a user replacable battery |
| 22:38.54 | ChipX86 | it needs OE! |
| 22:41.06 | pagefault | why does gaim get updates like 10 times in ubuntu with the same version |
| 22:41.08 | pagefault | it's a new package version |
| 22:41.12 | pagefault | but same gaim version |
| 22:41.21 | ChipX86 | dunno |
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| 22:46.17 | ChipX86 | your IP is showing |
| 22:46.43 | slimspace | scanline: I found something we need to address... |
| 22:46.56 | scanline | IRC lag? |
| 22:46.58 | slimspace | The datalogger continuously grabs and saves data from the sensors, right? |
| 22:47.10 | scanline | well, it installs observers that do so |
| 22:47.13 | slimspace | right |
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| 22:47.15 | slimspace | well |
| 22:47.31 | slimspace | In testing on the test box, most of the load the system is experiencing is saving to flash. |
| 22:47.46 | slimspace | No doubt this is introducing lag into the system and the serial lines such that replies time out and don't mesh |
| 22:47.47 | scanline | I told you it needed optimizing still :P |
| 22:48.18 | slimspace | yeah...well, maybe we need to do something where it flushes out to disk less. |
| 22:48.45 | slimspace | but in any case, I think we may need to disable the data logger for the test. |
| 22:48.53 | scanline | sure, it really isn't ready yet |
| 22:49.01 | scanline | but for the long term, it supports writing packets to disk in batches |
| 22:49.11 | scanline | mostly that saves it from having to update the superblock and flush quite so often |
| 22:49.29 | scanline | so if it collected data for a couple seconds at a time into RAM then flushed all at once, that would help |
| 22:49.48 | slimspace | well, maybe not... |
| 22:49.57 | slimspace | the on-board flash is EXTREMELY slow |
| 22:50.08 | scanline | well, what are we logging that's eating up most of the space? |
| 22:50.09 | slimspace | so dumping a lot of data would pretty much bring the system to a crawl |
| 22:50.14 | scanline | I doubt we really need that much data |
| 22:50.29 | slimspace | well, when I looked at that, I had a bunch of relay scanners on, and the CD scanners. |
| 22:50.47 | scanline | and those are going to be flooding the mnet basically, right? |
| 22:51.08 | slimspace | I'm not sure that they are. It was quite stable like that for a while |
| 22:51.25 | scanline | no, I don't mean that it would be doing anything bad to the micronet |
| 22:51.31 | slimspace | but I did a top on the system, and noticed that the jffs2 file compresser was taking the most load. |
| 22:51.35 | slimspace | oh, yeah |
| 22:51.40 | scanline | I mean that the rate that we're getting sensor readings in is pretty much limited by the mnet bandwidth |
| 22:51.48 | slimspace | yeah, it is |
| 22:51.51 | scanline | and regardless of the flash, that's more data than we can send to ground |
| 22:52.05 | scanline | so we need a way of tossing out readings from sensors that haven't changed much |
| 22:52.23 | scanline | first thing first though, we need to figure out what's eating up most of the storage |
| 22:52.38 | scanline | have you tried running the ground side of the data logger to see what's being storeD? |
| 22:53.05 | slimspace | not yet |
| 22:53.33 | scanline | that would be a good first step. It's just logclient.py. you'll probably need to edit it to connect to cxtarget2 rather than localhost |
| 22:53.57 | slimspace | flight software needs to be running? |
| 22:54.08 | scanline | purple_cow: is that david bowie covering pink floyd, or am I going mad? |
| 22:54.13 | scanline | slimspace: yes, that connects over PB |
| 22:54.20 | slimspace | ok |
| 22:54.50 | scanline | slimspace: it will continuously poll for new log entries, and repr() them to stdout |
| 22:55.08 | scanline | where by continuously I think it means every 5 seconds |
| 22:55.19 | slimspace | odd... |
| 22:55.26 | slimspace | looks like it's starting two instances of the micronet bus... |
| 22:56.27 | pagefault | cool |
| 22:56.33 | pagefault | 30 mile cordless phone |
| 22:56.34 | pagefault | I need tha |
| 22:56.36 | pagefault | that |
| 22:57.21 | purple_cow | scanline: you're not going mad |
| 22:57.34 | scanline | crazy! |
| 22:59.02 | slimspace | scanline: the log viewer makes the fsw jump to 100% usage. I can't use it while it runs. |
| 22:59.46 | purple_cow | i think this entire album is covers |
| 23:00.08 | scanline | slimspace: that's odd.. the server-side code it invokes shouldn't take much CPU |
| 23:00.16 | scanline | slimspace: have you tried running any of the fsw on the hotshot profiler? |
| 23:00.24 | slimspace | no, not yet |
| 23:00.27 | slimspace | I will soon though |
| 23:00.30 | scanline | I'd recommend it, it's quite handy |
| 23:00.39 | slimspace | but as soon as the log-client disconnects, the fsw goes back to idle. |
| 23:00.59 | scanline | so does that correspond with a lot of extra jffs activity, or is it something different? |
| 23:01.10 | slimspace | no, no jffs activity at all, as far as I can tell. |
| 23:01.21 | slimspace | It's in the fsw purely. the python process itself is taking the cpu |
| 23:01.25 | scanline | ok |
| 23:01.29 | scanline | then definitely try profiling it |
| 23:01.33 | slimspace | yeah |
| 23:01.43 | purple_cow | slimspace / darth_mall / scanline: any inclination towards talking a bit about the editor thingy tonight? |
| 23:01.58 | slimspace | I'll be available over IRC to, yes |
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| 23:06.33 | slimspace | bye everyone |
| 23:06.35 | scanline | bye |
| 23:07.11 | CIA-8 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r7422 10music/palmer-piano_concerto/cello.ly: add an instrument name to the part |
| 23:07.39 | luqui | (insert waking up noise) |
| 23:08.19 | CIA-8 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r7423 10music/palmer-piano_concerto/bassoon.ly: add an instrument to this one too |
| 23:08.30 | luqui | tutti means the whole section? |
| 23:08.41 | purple_cow | in this case, yeah |
| 23:09.14 | luqui | what does it mean in general? |
| 23:09.19 | purple_cow | literally it just means "all" |
| 23:09.35 | purple_cow | in most concerti parts, it indicates the end of a solo section |
| 23:10.43 | luqui | why the yelling title/composer/part |
| 23:10.52 | luqui | that's just what you're used to seeing? |
| 23:10.54 | purple_cow | tradition |
| 23:11.10 | purple_cow | i don't think i've ever seen a mainstream publisher that didn't do that |
| 23:11.27 | luqui | fair enough |
| 23:13.01 | luqui | Tempo I is fairly common; do you ever see Tempo II? |
| 23:13.35 | purple_cow | rarely, but it's there |
| 23:13.52 | purple_cow | usually you'll just re-state the second tempo (allegro or whatnot) |
| 23:14.20 | luqui | what's a word that you'd see in a tempo direction that means "slower" |
| 23:14.34 | lurgy | "meno mosso"? |
| 23:14.48 | lurgy | or you can just write "Slower" |
| 23:14.54 | lurgy | since you're an American composer :) |
| 23:14.57 | luqui | No damnit! I'm italian! |
| 23:15.02 | lurgy | heh |
| 23:15.08 | lurgy | or you could confuse everyone with some German |
| 23:15.12 | lurgy | "Langsamer" |
| 23:15.22 | scanline | "menos rapido" |
| 23:15.47 | luqui | "mas despachio" |
| 23:15.57 | lurgy | mm |
| 23:15.59 | lurgy | gezpacho |
| 23:16.02 | lurgy | er |
| 23:16.02 | luqui | haha |
| 23:16.03 | scanline | hehe |
| 23:16.03 | lurgy | gazpacho |
| 23:16.52 | purple_cow | hurray |
| 23:16.56 | purple_cow | the new toilet seat works |
| 23:16.58 | scanline | yay |
| 23:17.13 | pagefault | file, did you restore my image from backup? |
| 23:17.16 | pagefault | or did it come alive byself |
| 23:17.18 | pagefault | err itself |
| 23:18.50 | CIA-8 | winehq: 03Mike Hearn <mike@navi.cx> * 10/: Increase PE reserve area size to 500mb |
| 23:23.45 | purple_cow | luqui: just to check, m.144 is what you want in the 'cello part? |
| 23:24.36 | purple_cow | (it was quarter notes before i moved the time change) |
| 23:25.03 | purple_cow | speaking of which, should i add a half=quarter. equivalency thing on the tempo changes? |
| 23:25.23 | luqui | yeah |
| 23:25.46 | luqui | and yeah, that's correct |
| 23:26.22 | CIA-8 | navi-misc: 03fibonaci * r7424 10music/palmer-piano_concerto/01_allegro_ma_non_troppo/text.ly: Add text expressions for the tempo directions. |
| 23:28.23 | CIA-8 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r7425 10music/palmer-piano_concerto/01_allegro_ma_non_troppo/cello.ly: make it beautiful |
| 23:28.56 | purple_cow | hmm |
| 23:29.02 | purple_cow | 'cello part is almost ready to be played from :) |
| 23:29.07 | luqui | cool |
| 23:30.50 | pagefault | cool |
| 23:30.55 | pagefault | a wine update |
| 23:35.05 | purple_cow | what widget? |
| 23:35.11 | ChipX86 | something for vmware |
| 23:35.24 | purple_cow | ah |
| 23:35.26 | ChipX86 | it's a GtkComboBoxText subclass, and it's popping up an empty menu |
| 23:35.32 | ChipX86 | but the entries are being appended |
| 23:35.40 | ChipX86 | so maybe I should blame Gtk::ComboBoxText |
| 23:36.50 | CIA-8 | navi-misc: 03fibonaci * r7426 10music/palmer-piano_concerto/01_allegro_ma_non_troppo/bassoon.ly: Bassoon dynamics. |
| 23:45.42 | ChipX86 | pffffft |
| 23:45.52 | ChipX86 | they put a new pinball machine in the Hillview building... AFTER I leave |
| 23:46.03 | purple_cow | :( |
| 23:46.14 | ChipX86 | I think we only have one here. We need to get the DDR moved over here. |
| 23:48.54 | ChipX86 | ah-ha. |
| 23:49.03 | ChipX86 | silly gtkmm |
| 23:52.14 | purple_cow | heh |
| 23:52.23 | purple_cow | i wish it didn't take as long to process this :) |
| 23:52.38 | purple_cow | it's like evolution core development before eplugins |
| 23:52.42 | scanline | are you running it on navi? |
| 23:52.49 | purple_cow | no |
| 23:52.56 | scanline | ah |
| 23:54.46 | CIA-8 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r7427 10music/palmer-piano_concerto/01_allegro_ma_non_troppo/cello.ly: add solo/tutti markings where appropriate and a super-happy metric equivalence marker over the first time signature change |
| 23:55.32 | numist | hey ChipX86 |
| 23:55.39 | numist | have a good week off? |
| 23:56.43 | darth_mall | lol |
| 23:56.54 | purple_cow | try valgrind? |
| 23:56.57 | purple_cow | could be smashing the stack |
| 23:57.07 | ChipX86 | numist: very :) |
| 23:57.13 | ChipX86 | this week was *really* good for Jamie and I |
| 23:57.31 | purple_cow | luqui: ok, ready for your tempo markings |
| 23:58.03 | numist | ChipX86: glad to hear it |
| 23:59.38 | pagefault | someone got laid :P sound like it anyway |
| 23:59.55 | luqui | they're marked with measure numbers so that they'll be easy to put in without searching through 40 pages of score |
| 23:59.58 | ChipX86 | not laid |