| 00:00.04 | darth_mall | unless you're gonkulator |
| 00:00.49 | scanline | hehe |
| 00:01.14 | scanline | I'm sure most people are far dirtier inside than they'd let on |
| 00:01.27 | scanline | doubt gonkulator is all that different |
| 00:01.34 | darth_mall | yeah, but he's not dirty like the boy scouts I know are |
| 00:01.46 | darth_mall | or if he is he does a very good job of hiding it |
| 00:02.56 | scanline | yay, that sounds like slimspace's interview |
| 00:03.12 | darth_mall | yay |
| 00:04.27 | ToyKeeper | <hardwire> again |
| 00:04.28 | ToyKeeper | <hardwire> tacos |
| 00:04.28 | ToyKeeper | <hardwire> ugh |
| 00:04.33 | ToyKeeper | Heresy! |
| 00:04.43 | kergoth | mm, tacos |
| 00:04.59 | darth_mall | tacos! |
| 00:09.07 | scanline | this is actually kinda cool, I didn't know that refactoring had been cataloged in the same way as design patterns |
| 00:09.24 | kergoth | wheres this? |
| 00:09.26 | ToyKeeper | Where? |
| 00:09.49 | purple_cow | scanline: yep |
| 00:09.58 | scanline | kergoth, ToyKeeper: lecture notes |
| 00:10.02 | kergoth | ah |
| 00:10.03 | kergoth | heh |
| 00:10.32 | purple_cow | with our luck there will be a UML notation for refactoring that we'll have to learn :P |
| 00:10.34 | file | lol I overcount this cash by $5 and my mother freaks out |
| 00:10.37 | scanline | heh |
| 00:11.07 | file | so my expenses for the San Jose trip was $80 USD |
| 00:12.32 | pagefault | how does that work? |
| 00:12.35 | pagefault | you bought a mac mini |
| 00:12.42 | file | I meant actual expenses :p |
| 00:12.47 | pagefault | oh |
| 00:12.51 | file | the Mac Mini was a uh spending expense |
| 00:16.24 | scanline | hah |
| 00:16.29 | scanline | anderson's doing test-driven design |
| 00:17.22 | scanline | hmm.. I should probably head home |
| 00:17.27 | scanline | not getting anything done here really |
| 00:19.25 | purple_cow | http://www.olene.net/linux.html |
| 00:19.29 | pagefault | hehe |
| 00:19.52 | kergoth | ugh, its gonna be a pain to get all my shit off of the various machines |
| 00:19.56 | kergoth | and emails.. |
| 00:19.57 | kergoth | bleh |
| 00:26.31 | *** join/#tacobeam CIA-5 (~CIA@flapjack.navi.cx) |
| 00:26.45 | purple_cow | ooh |
| 00:26.49 | purple_cow | rosegarden is DAMN cool |
| 00:31.30 | *** join/#tacobeam CIA-3 (~CIA@flapjack.navi.cx) |
| 00:35.36 | kergoth | yay lords of acid |
| 00:35.44 | kergoth | "i wanna see your pussy, show it to me!" .. such a great chorus |
| 00:37.09 | purple_cow | time to get my desktop happy with soundfont stuff |
| 00:41.06 | purple_cow | ooh, neat |
| 00:41.43 | purple_cow | assuming i ever get sound working on my laptop, qsynth can do soundfont-based stuff |
| 00:43.04 | scanline | purple_cow: cool. I looked at rosegarden loooong ago and it was rather unimpressive :) |
| 00:43.12 | scanline | aha |
| 00:43.19 | purple_cow | scanline: it's totally awesome now |
| 00:43.23 | scanline | so Ken Anderson is still having homework grader problems |
| 00:43.25 | scanline | I'm not the only one |
| 00:43.36 | purple_cow | a little pokey, and QT, but totally awesome |
| 00:44.26 | kergoth | scanline: i found out how to generate the database for my iriver :) |
| 00:44.32 | kergoth | so i can browse by tags now |
| 00:44.33 | scanline | kergoth: neat. how is it? |
| 00:44.33 | kergoth | finally |
| 00:44.49 | kergoth | works fine. need to automate the db generation in some fashion though |
| 00:44.54 | kergoth | i keep forgetting to do it after i rsync |
| 00:44.54 | kergoth | heh |
| 00:44.58 | scanline | yeah |
| 00:45.07 | scanline | is it done by a tool on the desktop, or some menu entry on the iriver itself? |
| 00:45.13 | kergoth | desktop |
| 00:45.19 | kergoth | iriver can use it, but i dont think it can generate it |
| 00:45.24 | scanline | k. so pretty much just like what the iPod does |
| 00:45.35 | purple_cow | ooh |
| 00:45.38 | purple_cow | it can export lilypond |
| 00:45.54 | darth_mall | pony! |
| 00:46.42 | purple_cow | hmm |
| 00:46.48 | scanline | purple_cow: heh, uml-tools kinda freaked me out too |
| 00:47.08 | purple_cow | kind of strange that the piano-roll is a different window from the track view |
| 00:49.11 | darth_mall | hmm... I think maybe running this thing on a 30000 point trajectory was not smart |
| 00:56.28 | scanline | hmm |
| 00:57.51 | scanline | ow... |
| 00:57.55 | scanline | http://flapjack.navi.cx/monitor/diskio/io_status-6h.gif |
| 00:57.57 | scanline | how'd that happen? |
| 00:58.33 | scanline | hmm, big traffic spike |
| 01:00.02 | darth_mall | oh no... |
| 01:00.18 | scanline | haha |
| 01:00.41 | darth_mall | hrm... |
| 01:00.47 | darth_mall | to bid, or not to bid... |
| 01:02.05 | darth_mall | ooooooooh... Nightmare Before Christmas lighters |
| 01:02.56 | darth_mall | and no one has bid on any of this stuf... |
| 01:06.19 | darth_mall | oooh... a Nightmare Before Christmas cookie jar =D |
| 01:11.02 | darth_mall | I'm not sure what's worse: how much crap was made for this movie, or how much of that crap I'm willing to buy... |
| 01:11.44 | purple_cow | heh |
| 01:12.43 | darth_mall | omfg... this is hilarious |
| 01:12.58 | darth_mall | http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=1345&item=5962889366&rd=1 |
| 01:13.18 | darth_mall | that is so tempting |
| 01:13.23 | scanline | haha |
| 01:13.24 | purple_cow | cool |
| 01:14.36 | scanline | hmm |
| 01:14.54 | scanline | after I finish this silly rio sync tool, I should try to satisfy my python hacking needs with spreadfs :) |
| 01:16.08 | purple_cow | wow |
| 01:16.10 | scanline | mmm |
| 01:16.14 | purple_cow | fluidsynth is just a little fragile :P |
| 01:16.15 | scanline | files downloaded back off my rio still work |
| 01:22.47 | purple_cow | aha! |
| 01:22.48 | purple_cow | awesfx |
| 01:26.23 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10BZFlagG3D/tools/mapedit/ (7 files in 5 dirs): let there be openGL |
| 01:32.51 | purple_cow | hmm |
| 01:37.01 | scanline | mwahaha |
| 01:37.38 | purple_cow | crazy bastard |
| 01:38.56 | *** join/#tacobeam cwisty (~default@c-24-8-37-83.client.comcast.net) |
| 01:39.07 | scanline | hiya cwisty |
| 01:39.16 | cwisty | hi |
| 01:40.25 | cwisty | hehe |
| 01:40.46 | cwisty | some bit of randomness lurgy said that cwisty wrote down because she found it amusing at the time |
| 01:40.55 | scanline | :) |
| 01:42.16 | cwisty | http://www.steakandbjday.com/ |
| 01:42.30 | cwisty | not that I'm advocating, just think it's funny |
| 01:43.04 | purple_cow | ugh |
| 01:43.07 | scanline | hah |
| 01:43.09 | purple_cow | qsynth's UI makes me sad |
| 01:44.01 | scanline | yay for "from __future__ import division" |
| 01:48.41 | scanline | yay Dr. Kev |
| 01:48.46 | scanline | what else haven't I listened to recently... |
| 01:49.25 | scanline | ooh wait.. need some Juno Reactor |
| 01:49.34 | scanline | I hate robbing banks! |
| 01:50.44 | purple_cow | grrrrr |
| 01:51.00 | purple_cow | why the hell is fluidsynth *cpu limited* ?!? |
| 01:56.59 | laodamas | w000t! |
| 01:59.01 | purple_cow | laodamas: nice |
| 01:59.06 | purple_cow | wheeeeee |
| 02:00.06 | laodamas | So how should I spend this disposable income? |
| 02:01.52 | scanline | ooh.. this is working well so far |
| 02:02.16 | laodamas | Littleton seems to be a bit Tuscon right now |
| 02:02.26 | laodamas | Littleton seems to be a bit colder than Tuscon right now |
| 02:03.52 | pagefault | @futurama |
| 02:03.53 | kbot | pagefault: <Bender> They're tormenting me with uptempo singing and dancing! |
| 02:08.27 | purple_cow | whee |
| 02:10.48 | CIA-3 | navi-misc: 03micah * r7283 10rio-karma/python/ (RioKarma/Filesystem.py RioKarma/Progress.py demo.py): Woo, spiffy Deferred-based progress reporting |
| 02:14.59 | numist | hmm |
| 02:15.23 | purple_cow | now if only i had a MIDI keyboard and that zeta cello.... |
| 02:15.33 | kergoth | movers are fucking expensive. |
| 02:16.32 | laodamas | kergoth: but you can deduct them if you are |
| 02:16.50 | kergoth | hm, thats true, didnt think about that |
| 02:16.53 | laodamas | more than 50 miles away from your old home on you 2005 federal tax return |
| 02:17.07 | kergoth | found a place thatll move my stuff for $900 |
| 02:17.18 | kergoth | i dont have much to move. small one bedroom apt, not fully furnished |
| 02:20.02 | kergoth | wow, thats a lot of moving |
| 02:20.04 | kergoth | heh |
| 02:20.27 | file[laptop] | laodamas is running from the law |
| 02:20.32 | kergoth | wonder how badly i'll get nailed on the apartment lease |
| 02:22.19 | laodamas | file[laptop]: nope, but keeps the person doing my CIA level background investigation busy |
| 02:22.38 | CIA-3 | navi-misc: 03micah * r7284 10rio-karma/python/ (5 files in 2 dirs): Implement progress reporting during synchronization |
| 02:22.48 | file[laptop] | laodamas: awwww gotta give them something to do ya know |
| 02:23.47 | laodamas | working with Norwegian members of parliment didn't simplify anything either |
| 02:25.42 | scanline | hah |
| 02:25.48 | scanline | I ended up with a couple album covers on my rio |
| 02:25.49 | scanline | :P |
| 02:26.02 | purple_cow | heh |
| 02:26.22 | CIA-3 | navi-misc: 03micah * r7285 10rio-karma/python/ (RioKarma/Progress.py TODO): Refactor Progress.ConsoleReporter a bit, poke the TODO list |
| 02:32.31 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10BZFlagG3D/tools/mapedit/ (6 files in 4 dirs): |
| 02:32.31 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: GL window scaling |
| 02:32.31 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: View rotation and zoom |
| 02:32.31 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: some basic axes for drawing in the non OS specific part |
| 02:39.12 | *** join/#tacobeam zak (~user@128.138.74.40) |
| 03:04.58 | file[laptop] | http://www.file-radio.com/VON2005/ |
| 03:07.01 | purple_cow | wowie |
| 03:07.08 | purple_cow | the audigy4 looks spectacular |
| 03:07.59 | purple_cow | hah |
| 03:08.06 | purple_cow | looks like a 200tqfp :P |
| 03:08.19 | scanline | hey look, a tuxscreen convention |
| 03:08.41 | purple_cow | hehehe |
| 03:11.19 | laodamas | http://screeningroom2.boardsmag.com/commercials/burgerkingfantasyranch60.mov |
| 03:11.20 | *** join/#tacobeam JeffM2501 (~jeffm@Patlabor221.active.supporter.pdpc) |
| 03:12.54 | laodamas | ^^one more reason not to watch broadcast tv/cable |
| 03:19.23 | *** join/#tacobeam file[mac] (~file@mctnnbsah25-142166091160.nb.aliant.net) |
| 03:23.55 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10BZFlagG3D/ (6 files in 5 dirs): set up client IRC connects and callsign setup |
| 03:28.00 | CIA-3 | navi-misc: 03micah * r7286 10rio-karma/python/RioKarma/ (Filesystem.py Metadata.py): Bug fixes: The local metadata cache would always miss due to a flaky mtime comparison, and reading an empty playlist would fail since the device doesn't keep a 'playlist' metadata item for them at all. |
| 03:28.33 | CIA-3 | navi-misc: 03micah * r7287 10rio-karma/python/ (demo.py download.py info.py show-playlists.py upload.py): Split demo.py into a handful of small command line programs |
| 03:33.44 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10bzflag/src/bzfs/Permissions.cxx: don't bother doing a search for empty strings ( may prevent a crash ). |
| 03:40.28 | scanline | woo, this is great |
| 03:42.11 | CIA-3 | navi-misc: 03micah * r7288 10rio-karma/python/ (RioKarma/Pearl.py RioKarma/Progress.py upload.py): Hook up progress reporting for 'busy' messages, finish hooking up the upload.py tool. It might actually be usable for synchronizing music now |
| 03:42.27 | scanline | -rw-r--r-- 1 micah users 4096 Mar 14 19:30 auth.cache |
| 03:42.27 | scanline | -rw-r--r-- 1 micah users 790528 Mar 14 20:49 device-0034318.cache |
| 03:42.28 | scanline | -rw-r--r-- 1 micah users 3205120 Mar 14 20:50 local.cache |
| 03:42.29 | scanline | yay |
| 03:43.46 | scanline | this is going to take a while.. |
| 03:43.52 | scanline | "Found 2278 files to upload |
| 03:43.53 | scanline | Obtaining write lock..." |
| 04:07.12 | scanline | poor Oakenfold.. his newer CDs really do suck compared to his old ones |
| 04:08.17 | laodamas | "Alas, poor website! I knew it, Horatio: a site of infinite uptime, of most excellent fancy: it hath borne me on its pages a thousand times; and now, how absent in my browser it is! my gorge rims at it. Here hung those graphics that I have watched I know not how oft. Where be your scripts now? your applets? your stylesheets? your flashes of gif animation, that were wont to set my bandwidth on a groan?" |
| 04:10.19 | purple_cow | scanline: single giganto pizza good? |
| 04:10.27 | scanline | ok |
| 04:11.52 | purple_cow | hmm, though then there's none for breakfast |
| 04:13.49 | scanline | what toppings are you getting? |
| 04:14.08 | purple_cow | hmm |
| 04:14.21 | purple_cow | one artichoke+sundriedtomato+garlic and one sausage+mushroom? |
| 04:14.27 | scanline | ok |
| 04:30.53 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10BZFlagG3D/tools/mapedit/inc/mapedit.h: Edit meny, cut, copy, paste, undo hooks |
| 04:31.05 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10BZFlagG3D/tools/mapedit/ (4 files in 3 dirs): Edit meny, cut, copy, paste, undo hooks |
| 04:37.38 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10BZFlagG3D/tools/mapedit/ (6 files in 4 dirs): file open,save,new, hooks |
| 05:09.51 | lurgy | ugh |
| 05:09.53 | lurgy | so achey |
| 05:10.45 | cwisty | why? |
| 05:12.15 | darth_mall | because he's a porn star |
| 05:12.27 | cwisty | too many floosies |
| 05:12.28 | lurgy | hi cwisty |
| 05:12.33 | cwisty | hi Dan |
| 05:12.35 | lurgy | darn, got it first try |
| 05:12.49 | lurgy | that just takes all the fun out of it |
| 05:12.56 | lurgy | my mondays kinda suck |
| 05:13.03 | lurgy | but tuesdays and thursdays almost make up for them |
| 05:13.28 | cwisty | ah |
| 05:14.06 | lurgy | 13 hours makes my back hurt :P |
| 05:14.21 | lurgy | s/far/fart/ |
| 05:14.37 | darth_mall | plus, lurgy's a porn star |
| 05:14.46 | darth_mall | he's all full of porn, and stars |
| 05:14.48 | lurgy | and then there's that |
| 05:15.09 | darth_mall | and apparently scanline is a whore |
| 05:15.15 | darth_mall | he now wants me to slip him $100 |
| 05:15.23 | darth_mall | apparently he meant $1000 |
| 05:15.35 | lurgy | uh oh, he'll prolly go starring in la traviatta or something |
| 05:15.47 | cwisty | at least he isn't a cheap whore |
| 05:16.29 | darth_mall | damn those bastards and their pizza |
| 05:16.55 | lurgy | yep, i'm glad nearly having a CS degree has taught scanline some self-respect in that regard |
| 05:16.58 | scanline | PIZZA! |
| 05:17.57 | scanline | lurgy: yep.. I'm happy to be two physics classes and some senior project documentation away from said degree ;) |
| 05:18.21 | darth_mall | scanline: you and lurgy should make a porn together |
| 05:18.27 | darth_mall | you could direct, and he could write |
| 05:18.30 | darth_mall | it would be awesome |
| 05:18.43 | cwisty | huzzah! |
| 05:18.49 | scanline | I think directing might be more fun :P |
| 05:18.49 | darth_mall | !hazzuh |
| 05:18.55 | lurgy | it can be some of that porn done entirely in flash |
| 05:19.00 | darth_mall | lurgy: yep |
| 05:19.02 | lurgy | the software flash, i mean |
| 05:19.08 | scanline | hehe |
| 05:19.54 | cwisty | mmmm porm |
| 05:19.58 | cwisty | porn |
| 05:20.02 | lurgy | hehe, porm |
| 05:20.30 | cwisty | woo hoo!!! |
| 05:20.42 | cwisty | oh god |
| 05:21.04 | scanline | er.. now that was unintentional, I hope |
| 05:21.23 | nullpuppy | s/un// |
| 05:21.26 | scanline | and to change the subject, why do we have all these .m4a files? |
| 05:21.56 | lurgy | to get to the other side? |
| 05:22.19 | scanline | well, my scriptydoo seems to think they're .wav files, and it's sending them to my rio |
| 05:22.24 | lurgy | purple_cow: a movie adaptation of "Invisible Man"? |
| 05:22.32 | purple_cow | lurgy: shame on you |
| 05:22.44 | darth_mall | scanline: I got them from my dad |
| 05:22.51 | darth_mall | cuz of his silly iTunes nonsense |
| 05:22.56 | darth_mall | there shouldn't be that many |
| 05:22.58 | scanline | darth_mall: well, apparently they're actually .wav files ;) |
| 05:23.14 | darth_mall | and actually... I should delete Steely_Dan/gaucho |
| 05:23.17 | darth_mall | cuz those won't play |
| 05:23.24 | scanline | >>> mmpython.parse("/navi/media/audio/groups/David_Bowie/best_of_bowie-germany/11_sound_and_vision.m4a") |
| 05:23.24 | scanline | <mmpython.audio.pcminfo.PCMInfo instance at 0x4063f58c> |
| 05:23.26 | darth_mall | what with Apple's silly protection nonsense |
| 05:24.00 | scanline | ooh, -1 kbps |
| 05:24.11 | lurgy | purple_cow: on me? |
| 05:24.23 | darth_mall | lurgy: he's just jealous of your porniness |
| 05:24.26 | cwisty | mmm from porn to media formats in 2 seconds |
| 05:24.33 | darth_mall | and back to porn again! |
| 05:25.54 | scanline | so.. how about them porms |
| 05:25.58 | darth_mall | you know who kicks ass? |
| 05:26.02 | darth_mall | Danny Elfman |
| 05:26.47 | purple_cow | lurgy: i'm disappointed in you not recognizing where "ectoplasm" comes from |
| 05:27.21 | lurgy | cwisty: that's cuz you're not over here |
| 05:27.29 | cwisty | prolly |
| 05:27.32 | scanline | it solves hunger more than boredom, but seems to do the latter adequately |
| 05:27.42 | cwisty | if I was haging iwth you lurgy I wouldn't be bored for sure |
| 05:27.48 | lurgy | aw |
| 05:27.55 | lurgy | :) |
| 05:28.03 | purple_cow | there are many good reasons to eat: hunger, boredom, wanting to be the world's fattest man. but not revenge! |
| 05:28.12 | lurgy | hehe |
| 05:28.32 | scanline | purple_cow: wow, three for three! |
| 05:29.29 | darth_mall | scanline: I will support you in this endeavor to become ginormous |
| 05:30.22 | scanline | hmm |
| 05:30.28 | scanline | might be hard if I get full this easily :P |
| 05:31.04 | scanline | heh.. the rio's getting rather warm |
| 05:33.54 | darth_mall | grr... this damn thing is still out of range |
| 05:33.57 | darth_mall | arg! |
| 05:36.24 | purple_cow | yay bill murray |
| 05:37.34 | darth_mall | yep |
| 05:37.36 | darth_mall | he's hilarious |
| 05:38.55 | lurgy | yay |
| 05:39.00 | darth_mall | roflmao... http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/16044458/ |
| 05:39.00 | lurgy | scanline: that's the one opposite your left hand |
| 05:39.05 | lurgy | they'll probably want to know that |
| 05:39.17 | scanline | reeeealy! |
| 05:39.51 | purple_cow | hehehe |
| 05:43.48 | purple_cow | hurray artichokes |
| 05:44.40 | lurgy | hehe |
| 05:44.42 | lurgy | and hurray forks |
| 05:44.44 | scanline | darth_mall: hehe |
| 05:54.41 | scanline | hehe, I forgot about this one |
| 05:54.55 | scanline | "Cluelessness: There are no stupid questions, but there are a LOT of inquisitive idiots" |
| 05:56.52 | scanline | oooh |
| 05:56.57 | scanline | this one would be perfect at spacegrant |
| 05:56.59 | scanline | http://www.despair.com/demotivators/incompetence.html |
| 05:57.11 | scanline | "Perfect for: Those who confuse effort with results" |
| 05:59.33 | purple_cow | heh |
| 06:00.41 | cwisty | mmmm timesheet |
| 06:01.16 | darth_mall | timesheets are great, cuz that's how we make sure they give us moneys |
| 06:02.28 | purple_cow | always with the op-amps! |
| 06:02.36 | scanline | er, I guess I do have physics recitation... |
| 06:02.39 | scanline | hopefully they come in before that |
| 06:02.46 | cwisty | skip OOP? |
| 06:02.47 | scanline | if not, I go to turn in my homework |
| 06:02.53 | scanline | cwisty: shocking, I know |
| 06:03.09 | scanline | I mean, it's such a great class and all.. |
| 06:03.28 | cwisty | hehe |
| 06:03.29 | cwisty | yeah I know |
| 06:04.22 | lurgy | hehe |
| 06:04.34 | lurgy | scanline: or as my instrumentation prof is fond of saying.. |
| 06:04.44 | lurgy | scanline: "there are no stupid questions, only stupid people" |
| 06:07.25 | scanline | yay |
| 06:07.27 | scanline | forgot about this movie |
| 06:07.47 | cwisty | what movie? |
| 06:08.24 | scanline | Ghostbusters 2 |
| 06:08.34 | cwisty | ah |
| 06:11.24 | scanline | yay... short physics homework |
| 06:11.27 | darth_mall | gah |
| 06:11.33 | darth_mall | I can't get an answer other than 0 |
| 06:11.40 | scanline | it's like they know I want to spend most of tomorrow soldering op-amps for cwisty rather than staring at RC circuits with a bunch of dorks |
| 06:12.01 | cwisty | cwisty knows how to solder opamps |
| 06:12.06 | scanline | :) |
| 06:12.15 | cwisty | you don't have to do it for me y aknow |
| 06:12.24 | scanline | nah, you see I like surface mount soldering |
| 06:12.36 | scanline | you're welcome to do it if you want, but it's one of those mindless tasks I find oddly fun |
| 06:12.50 | cwisty | dork |
| 06:12.51 | cwisty | ;-) |
| 06:12.54 | scanline | yep |
| 06:13.00 | cwisty | I won't turn down the help |
| 06:13.14 | scanline | hmm, and the extra hours at spacegrant wouldn't hurt |
| 06:13.23 | cwisty | yeah and the company |
| 06:13.31 | scanline | soldering for you is a lot less aggrivating than squeezing a few extra bytes out of the data logger |
| 06:13.32 | cwisty | soldering OpAmps alone isn't as much fun |
| 06:13.36 | scanline | defnitely the company |
| 06:13.39 | cwisty | cause cussing at them doesn't work |
| 06:13.45 | scanline | hehe |
| 06:14.05 | scanline | usually everyone else is working on something different, and usually more interesting |
| 06:14.41 | darth_mall | ugh... this is so depressing |
| 06:14.46 | scanline | :( |
| 06:18.48 | darth_mall | the good news is... I love lurgy |
| 06:20.04 | lurgy | jeepers |
| 06:20.08 | cwisty | who doesn't? |
| 06:20.37 | scanline | lurgy's nemesis might not |
| 06:20.40 | scanline | but he sucks |
| 06:21.00 | scanline | don't you? |
| 06:21.13 | scanline | if you do, I'm sure he isn't a swell guy or anything |
| 06:21.16 | purple_cow | mmmm grapefruit |
| 06:21.29 | lurgy | scanline: hopefully |
| 06:21.44 | lurgy | then i wouldn't feel as bad about crushing him into the ground with the might of a thousand beavers |
| 06:21.50 | lurgy | or her |
| 06:21.54 | darth_mall | yeah |
| 06:22.11 | cwisty | beavers |
| 06:22.36 | lurgy | sure |
| 06:22.37 | darth_mall | yay beavers |
| 06:22.40 | lurgy | a thousand is a lot of beavers |
| 06:22.45 | lurgy | i'm sure they could be kind of mighty |
| 06:22.49 | darth_mall | lurgy: we can go to Canada and get you some! |
| 06:22.59 | lurgy | hehe, canadian mythology |
| 06:24.01 | lurgy | Ted & Pam? |
| 06:25.36 | darth_mall | yep, friends of mine who live on the left coast of Canada |
| 06:25.39 | darth_mall | they're really cool people |
| 06:25.50 | darth_mall | also, Ted brings really good tequila when he visits =D |
| 06:26.30 | darth_mall | awesome! I think I figured out why I was getting 0 |
| 06:26.33 | lurgy | yay! |
| 06:26.43 | darth_mall | silly integer division when I wanted floating point division |
| 06:27.10 | lurgy | yeah |
| 06:27.21 | lurgy | i think integers are metaphors for satan in this case |
| 06:27.41 | darth_mall | yep |
| 06:27.47 | darth_mall | satan division is the worst |
| 06:30.02 | lurgy | yeah |
| 06:30.18 | lurgy | inevitably you just end up chucking other people's souls at him to try to appease him |
| 06:36.29 | darth_mall | mk... well, now my calculations are coming out, but now I have to find a good epsilon |
| 06:37.06 | lurgy | 15! |
| 06:37.17 | lurgy | ooh, how about epsilon naught? |
| 06:37.28 | lurgy | that's 8.854e-11 |
| 06:39.17 | scanline | darth_mall: from __future__ import division |
| 06:39.18 | scanline | :P |
| 06:40.46 | scanline | wow |
| 06:40.51 | scanline | CIA user IDs are up to 115 |
| 06:47.58 | darth_mall | scanline: wha? |
| 06:49.15 | scanline | darth_mall: they've been planning on fixing the / operator in python to be more intuitive for a while now. It won't become default behavior until python 3.0, but you can use that future import to get it now |
| 06:49.44 | darth_mall | hmm...cool |
| 06:50.02 | cwisty | goodnight to you all! |
| 06:50.13 | scanline | g'night cwisty |
| 06:50.22 | darth_mall | cwisty's a monkey! |
| 06:50.30 | scanline | darth_mall's a turkey! |
| 06:50.33 | darth_mall | I mean... g'night |
| 06:50.40 | darth_mall | scanline: gobble gobble! |
| 06:50.40 | cwisty | thanks Evan |
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| 06:53.44 | darth_mall | bleh... I'm getting tired |
| 06:56.39 | scanline | hmm |
| 06:56.44 | scanline | good ideas all around, it seems |
| 07:00.15 | numist | indeed |
| 07:00.23 | numist | Im staying up though, since Im a rebel |
| 07:24.21 | purple_cow | http://www.livejournal.com/users/peasantries/495.html |
| 07:38.30 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10BZFlagG3D/ (5 files in 4 dirs): |
| 07:38.30 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: give chat a log class to push it to the client menu. |
| 07:38.30 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: draw a basic scene in menu and pipe thru IRC chat. |
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| 08:53.20 | purple_cow | yay, ChipX86 is back! |
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| 16:08.15 | scanline | hey look, the first round of interview questions from LinuxWorld |
| 16:13.19 | scanline | yay |
| 16:13.30 | lurgy | yay |
| 16:19.15 | lurgy | hmm, my firefox has gotten kinda unstable |
| 16:19.32 | darth_mall | oh no |
| 16:19.34 | darth_mall | not unstable |
| 16:21.28 | darth_mall | but I don't have any breakfast foods... |
| 16:22.48 | lurgy | but it's always breakfast when you've got Ketchup! |
| 16:23.00 | lurgy | (this message brought to you by the ketchup advisory board) |
| 16:23.05 | scanline | haha |
| 16:23.14 | scanline | yay lurgy, making me laugh even when it's far too early |
| 16:23.26 | lurgy | ^_^ |
| 16:25.12 | lurgy | eek |
| 16:26.21 | lurgy | apparently the University of Neuchâtel in switzerland is recruiting CU undergrads to do their masters work there |
| 16:26.26 | lurgy | which is charming |
| 16:26.42 | lurgy | except that Neuchâtel is about the size of Rifle |
| 16:27.05 | lurgy | and it's hard to imagine how a place like Rifle could have much to offer in terms of nanotech |
| 16:27.26 | scanline | love is blindness |
| 16:27.29 | scanline | I don't want to see |
| 16:27.34 | scanline | can't you wrap the night |
| 16:27.36 | scanline | around me? |
| 16:28.15 | slimspace | scanline, darth_mall, purple_cow: you going to class? |
| 16:28.22 | scanline | hah |
| 16:28.37 | scanline | pretty sure purple_cow isn't |
| 16:29.06 | scanline | I'm hanging out here waiting for op-amps to come in |
| 16:29.18 | slimspace | I'm studying for my num comp exam |
| 16:29.31 | scanline | fun on a stick |
| 16:29.40 | slimspace | indeed |
| 16:30.30 | scanline | hmm |
| 16:30.35 | scanline | went out for delivery at 4 AM this morning |
| 16:44.39 | darth_mall | slimspace: hehe, no class today ^^ |
| 16:44.46 | slimspace | really...Why? |
| 16:45.42 | darth_mall | erm... not "no class" |
| 16:45.48 | darth_mall | by "no class" I meant "no class for me" |
| 16:45.50 | slimspace | oh, not going |
| 16:45.58 | slimspace | hehe |
| 16:46.07 | darth_mall | not to my knowledge |
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| 16:46.10 | darth_mall | that was poorly phrased |
| 16:51.50 | darth_mall | hmm... this is going to take a while... |
| 16:52.27 | scanline | hah |
| 16:52.49 | scanline | I just realized that I'm going to be bringing a big box of my own electronics tools to the physics lab, since I have that right before going to work ;) |
| 16:53.05 | darth_mall | ^^ |
| 16:53.25 | darth_mall | did you guys read that livejournal thing that purple_cow linked to last night? |
| 16:53.29 | scanline | yep |
| 16:53.33 | darth_mall | ^^ |
| 16:53.39 | scanline | lots of very intelligent responses to eugenia's madness |
| 16:53.41 | scanline | finally |
| 16:54.02 | darth_mall | her OSNews post made me giggle |
| 16:54.06 | scanline | her and her readers are in general an awfully annoying crowd |
| 16:54.47 | scanline | they say things like that about how free software is flawed etc etc, and go raving mad over the latest improvements in some closed-source hobbyist OS |
| 16:55.19 | scanline | wow |
| 16:55.22 | scanline | that nearly filled up my rio |
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| 17:00.59 | scanline | 3026 files in database |
| 17:01.00 | scanline | 0.96/18.55 GB free |
| 17:01.46 | scanline | I should tell jen that they claim 10000 songs for my player, and I'm getting about 3000 :) |
| 17:02.18 | scanline | of course the "10,000 songs" figure is using WMA at some crappy bit rate |
| 17:07.51 | darth_mall | ^^ |
| 17:08.39 | scanline | you never do |
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| 17:08.56 | scanline | and I'm sure this is pretty much best-case as far as filesystem fragmentation and such goes |
| 17:09.11 | scanline | I started with a nearly empty player and ran my uploader script overnight |
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| 17:12.40 | darth_mall | scanline: ^^ |
| 17:12.44 | darth_mall | wb lurgy |
| 17:12.47 | darth_mall | hi sbahra |
| 17:12.50 | darth_mall | mornin' kergoth |
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| 17:20.34 | scanline | ooh |
| 17:20.38 | scanline | my homework 2 apparently was graded |
| 17:20.39 | scanline | finally |
| 17:21.11 | scanline | hah |
| 17:21.20 | scanline | a handful of nitpicky bits on my use cases |
| 17:21.27 | scanline | but then "excellent work on CRC cards and UML diagram!" |
| 17:21.29 | scanline | 40/50 :P |
| 17:21.53 | slimspace | mmm...he did that to me too. 36/50 if I recall |
| 17:22.10 | slimspace | he really didn't like my use cases, and had some problems with my CRC cards too |
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| 17:24.28 | darth_mall | scanline: ^^ |
| 17:29.41 | darth_mall | scanline: that's exactly what I got |
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| 17:32.09 | pagefault_ | yay |
| 17:32.52 | scanline | hmm |
| 17:33.05 | scanline | I managed to write about 6 paragraphs on one question :P |
| 17:33.13 | purple_cow | heh |
| 17:33.30 | pagefault_ | successful conversion to ubuntu from debian :D |
| 17:33.35 | scanline | hmm, school |
| 17:33.39 | scanline | I have that labby-thing don't i... |
| 17:44.59 | ChipX86 | hah |
| 17:45.01 | ChipX86 | 05:19:30 < Lathiat> vmware seem to have gotten it right |
| 17:45.01 | ChipX86 | 05:19:33 < Lathiat> with their new gtk2 ui |
| 17:45.01 | ChipX86 | 05:20:01 < Lathiat> but thats all ChipX86's fault i think :) |
| 17:45.10 | scanline | hehe |
| 17:45.15 | ChipX86 | scanline: which interview? |
| 17:45.25 | scanline | LinuxWorld is interviewing me about CIA |
| 17:45.31 | ChipX86 | nice! |
| 17:45.40 | ChipX86 | I want to read it later |
| 17:45.47 | ChipX86 | though we're heading back to Chico tonight |
| 17:45.50 | scanline | I might post it somewhere before I send it out |
| 17:46.01 | scanline | I know at least you and purple_cow wanted to read it :P |
| 17:47.09 | pagefault_ | is it possible for X to do 32-bit colour heh |
| 17:47.34 | scanline | uh |
| 17:47.48 | scanline | yeah |
| 17:48.04 | scanline | are you talking about 24-bit color in a 32-bit word, or RGBA surfaces? |
| 17:48.14 | pagefault_ | 24-bit colour in a 32-bit word |
| 17:48.21 | scanline | it's done that pretty much forever |
| 17:48.24 | pagefault_ | oh |
| 17:48.36 | pagefault_ | I was just confused with it telling me it's running in 24-bit colour |
| 17:48.44 | scanline | well, it is 24-bit color |
| 17:48.47 | pagefault_ | yeah I know |
| 17:48.48 | scanline | it just happens to be 4 bytes per pixel usually |
| 17:48.54 | pagefault_ | but I thought it was actually using 24-bit storage |
| 17:49.00 | pagefault_ | which would suck on 32-bit processors |
| 17:49.02 | scanline | no... |
| 17:50.45 | pagefault_ | I am just trying to figure out the best way to display 16-bit graphics under X |
| 17:50.53 | pagefault_ | do I convert to 32-bit wordspace |
| 17:51.08 | scanline | hmm |
| 17:51.13 | scanline | why can't you generate it in 32-bit internally? |
| 17:51.25 | pagefault_ | because the source is really only 15-bit :) |
| 17:51.37 | scanline | still, it might be faster that way |
| 17:51.43 | ChipX86 | "vibrating condoms are not the only imaginative creations on the market... Also new is the ice condom" |
| 17:51.49 | pagefault_ | well this is ZSNES I am talking about |
| 17:51.53 | scanline | ChipX86: ow... |
| 17:51.57 | ChipX86 | yeah. |
| 17:51.59 | pagefault_ | I am trying to get the blit code up to snuf |
| 17:51.59 | ChipX86 | ice condom BAD |
| 17:52.12 | ChipX86 | what's next, the melting condom? |
| 17:52.17 | pagefault_ | in windows we just convert the internal 16-bit buffer to 32-bit |
| 17:52.32 | pagefault_ | but in X we let SDL handle the conversion |
| 17:52.37 | pagefault_ | and I think it's doing a really crappy job |
| 17:53.17 | pagefault_ | i'll have to experiment a bit I guess |
| 17:53.22 | scanline | so read the SDL code, profile it, and stop guessing |
| 17:53.38 | scanline | it bugs me to no end when people speculate about performance without having any real numbers |
| 17:53.47 | pagefault_ | I have profiled it |
| 17:54.05 | scanline | ok |
| 17:54.11 | scanline | so what did you learn about it? |
| 17:54.14 | pagefault_ | but I am trying to figure out what the best pixel format to output as in X if the desktop is set to 24-bit |
| 17:54.33 | pagefault_ | so I can avoid SDL conversion altogether |
| 17:54.48 | scanline | you can just give SDL a bpp of 0 to have it avoid conversion |
| 17:54.53 | scanline | then use its bit masks and such to do it yourself |
| 17:55.05 | scanline | but if you really are converting everything, I'd think SDL would be about as fast at it |
| 17:55.21 | pagefault_ | well |
| 17:55.31 | pagefault_ | I looked at their 16bpp -> 32bpp conversion assembly |
| 17:55.37 | pagefault_ | it works fine for generic stuff |
| 17:55.41 | pagefault_ | but I can do much better |
| 17:55.56 | scanline | how so? |
| 17:56.32 | pagefault_ | whoever wrote it I don't think knew much about cache thrashing |
| 17:56.53 | scanline | if you can write a better algorithm that still works in all the same circumstances, submit a patch |
| 17:57.40 | pagefault_ | thats what I am saying, it works fine for generic circumstances but because it's designed to work with ANY surface size it doesn't make it efficient |
| 17:58.15 | scanline | are you planning on hardcoding things for a particular size, or were you planning on just making some assumptions about alignment? |
| 17:58.26 | pagefault_ | hardcoding for a certain size |
| 17:58.42 | scanline | blah |
| 17:58.53 | scanline | hopefully that isn't necessary :) |
| 17:58.58 | ChipX86 | oh no! Tivo never recorded the 1.5 hour stargate episode |
| 17:58.59 | scanline | though I'm curious how much of an improvement you'd get |
| 17:59.01 | pagefault_ | it isn't |
| 17:59.05 | ChipX86 | that makes me very very sad |
| 17:59.10 | pagefault_ | but the code doesn't have to work with anything else besides this buffer type |
| 17:59.17 | pagefault_ | so I would take speed over flexibility that I don't need |
| 17:59.23 | scanline | right |
| 17:59.29 | scanline | like I said, I'd be curious how much faster that runs |
| 18:00.02 | pagefault_ | well if the indication of how much faster the windows version of zsnes with our blitters runs under wine compared to linux is any indication |
| 18:00.06 | pagefault_ | it will be much faster |
| 18:00.39 | scanline | seems odd that the 16bpp->32bpp conversion would really be that big of a chunk of your CPU time |
| 18:00.56 | pagefault_ | it is when you are doing it on a 640x480 buffer 60 times every second |
| 18:01.31 | pagefault_ | plus not all of the buffer is used |
| 18:01.49 | pagefault_ | depends on the game |
| 18:02.04 | scanline | oh. this is after scaling? |
| 18:02.11 | pagefault_ | yeah |
| 18:02.21 | scanline | but you can still hardcode the size? |
| 18:02.33 | pagefault_ | yeaqh |
| 18:03.47 | pagefault_ | the only thing standing in my way of getting the linux version running as fast as the windows version is this video thing |
| 18:05.28 | pagefault_ | the video blitting shouldn't take up more time than the emulation itself :/ |
| 18:06.49 | darth_mall | hmmm... there's research positions available at this RECUV thing at CU... |
| 18:07.36 | scanline | pagefault_: have you tried using Xv for the scaling? |
| 18:07.57 | pagefault_ | scanline, nope, can I do that through SDL? |
| 18:08.02 | scanline | some cards support hardware overlays of RGB surfaces- those would be really fast. On others, you'd have to do a relatively quick YUV conversion |
| 18:08.03 | scanline | yes |
| 18:08.19 | pagefault_ | hmm |
| 18:08.53 | pagefault_ | I wonder what would be faster 16->YUV or 16->32 |
| 18:09.09 | pagefault_ | but then I would have the hw scaling |
| 18:09.30 | scanline | right |
| 18:09.38 | scanline | you'd only have to do the 16->YUV at your original resolution |
| 18:09.43 | pagefault_ | yeah |
| 18:09.52 | pagefault_ | well it would help people running higher than 640x480 |
| 18:10.07 | scanline | hopefully that's everyone :) |
| 18:10.17 | darth_mall | not me! |
| 18:10.25 | darth_mall | or not... |
| 18:10.35 | darth_mall | yay! |
| 18:10.43 | darth_mall | we get more time on our programming assignment in here |
| 18:11.00 | pagefault_ | hmm |
| 18:11.09 | pagefault_ | in windows nearly no cards did RGB to YUV conversion |
| 18:11.13 | pagefault_ | I hope thats different in X |
| 18:11.24 | pagefault_ | most hardware supports it |
| 18:11.29 | pagefault_ | but the driver writers never put support in |
| 18:11.39 | scanline | er, you don't really need that do you? |
| 18:11.46 | scanline | you just need to know whether it's possible to disable the YUV to RGB |
| 18:12.12 | pagefault_ | I was under the impression the data needs to be YUV to use Xv |
| 18:12.26 | scanline | no |
| 18:12.31 | scanline | Xv supports a bunch of different formats |
| 18:12.40 | scanline | most of them are in YUV colorspace, but some cards also support RGB |
| 18:12.57 | scanline | it's not like the card uses YUV internally- it does a conversion to get it back to RGB |
| 18:13.04 | scanline | YUV is just most popular since it's usually used for video applications |
| 18:13.33 | pagefault_ | yeah thats what I meant |
| 18:13.39 | pagefault_ | I couldn't do an RGB overlay in windows |
| 18:13.51 | pagefault_ | should have been more clear |
| 18:15.09 | scanline | ah |
| 18:15.12 | pagefault_ | do I need to do anything special to use xv with SDL |
| 18:15.17 | pagefault_ | or will just using a hardware surface use it |
| 18:15.27 | scanline | SDL has an API for doing video overlays |
| 18:15.31 | scanline | that's implemented with Xv on linux |
| 18:16.04 | pagefault_ | ah ok |
| 18:16.05 | pagefault_ | is there any dithering crap when I use that |
| 18:16.07 | scanline | haha |
| 18:16.14 | pagefault_ | windows loves to do that |
| 18:16.16 | scanline | I really doubt that, but it depends on the hardware |
| 18:17.09 | pagefault_ | hmm |
| 18:17.15 | pagefault_ | SDL seems to only support YUV in overlays |
| 18:17.35 | scanline | silly SDL |
| 18:18.02 | scanline | I sure thought it just passed the fourccs for all video formats straight from X to your app |
| 18:18.04 | scanline | but I forget |
| 18:18.10 | pagefault_ | so looks like I need to convert data to YUV |
| 18:18.11 | scanline | been a long time since I've looked at that |
| 18:18.12 | pagefault_ | thats not a big deal |
| 18:18.23 | scanline | nod. and that should work under windows too |
| 18:18.41 | pagefault_ | and will wield same fps under any bitdepth |
| 18:19.18 | pagefault_ | now the question is |
| 18:19.29 | pagefault_ | is there any hardware which doesnt do overlays in X |
| 18:19.29 | pagefault_ | heh |
| 18:19.38 | pagefault_ | I guess it doesn't hurt to leave the old code there as a failsafe |
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| 18:22.20 | pagefault_ | fun |
| 18:22.25 | pagefault_ | overlays are way way easier than surfaces heh |
| 18:22.50 | scanline | pagefault_: yes, there is- but on systems that don't support Xv or they don't support any usable formats, SDL will do it in software |
| 18:23.00 | scanline | of course, this will mean going from RGB to YUV then back to RGB all in softawre |
| 18:23.01 | pagefault_ | oh |
| 18:23.05 | pagefault_ | well screw them |
| 18:23.16 | scanline | yeah. I don't think anything modern falls into that category unless the drivers are really bad |
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| 18:24.12 | pagefault_ | and I assume this is auto flipping |
| 18:24.29 | scanline | you have to tell it to flip/blit the surface, but the details of that are all hardware dependent |
| 18:24.57 | scanline | your overlay surface is actaully a shared memory buffer that the X server has access to, and telling it to flip will send an X request that has the hardware do its thing |
| 18:25.33 | pagefault_ | fun |
| 18:26.41 | pagefault_ | why would anyone want to use a normal surface if they had overlays? |
| 18:27.11 | scanline | overlays really only make sense for relatively small buffers that need to have scaling pretty much for free |
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| 18:27.26 | scanline | doesn't make sense for larger-scale 2D games, or for any kind of 3D |
| 18:27.49 | scanline | they're great for video playback, and for emulators |
| 18:27.54 | scanline | probably also for music visualization |
| 18:27.57 | scanline | but not a whole lot else |
| 18:28.48 | pagefault_ | yeah |
| 18:28.51 | pagefault_ | hmm |
| 18:28.56 | pagefault_ | yeah this should help out people a lot |
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| 18:31.54 | darth_mall | yay! lurgy's back! |
| 18:39.35 | darth_mall | well... at least my script is consistent... but I'm pretty sure that negative Lyapunov exponents are bad |
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| 18:43.31 | darth_mall | time to see what happens on the full trajectory |
| 18:53.31 | scanline | hmm |
| 18:53.36 | scanline | think I have these questions all answers |
| 18:59.33 | pagefault_ | interesting |
| 18:59.34 | pagefault_ | nero for linux |
| 18:59.35 | pagefault_ | heh |
| 19:02.24 | darth_mall | aww... no tuxscreens on ebay |
| 19:02.28 | scanline | yay, sent |
| 19:02.45 | scanline | http://navi.cx/~micah/cia-interview-1 |
| 19:10.27 | kergoth | scanline: looks good. |
| 19:10.37 | darth_mall | scanline: nice |
| 19:10.43 | scanline | thanks. it was easier than I expected :) |
| 19:13.40 | scanline | spacegrant really needs to buy one of these |
| 19:24.13 | scanline | hmm |
| 19:36.44 | darth_mall | heh |
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| 19:42.34 | scanline | cool. he liked my interview responses too, and will be sending more questions tomorrow |
| 19:43.29 | darth_mall | yay |
| 19:44.12 | CIA-8 | *purr* |
| 19:44.32 | darth_mall | you should have included that in your list of top 3 CIA features |
| 19:44.35 | darth_mall | ;) |
| 19:44.37 | scanline | hehe |
| 19:44.58 | darth_mall | "And the final, and most important feature is that it purrs when you rub its tummy" |
| 19:45.21 | darth_mall | "Oh, and I can also use it to abuse and confuse trolls." |
| 19:45.27 | scanline | hehe |
| 19:46.50 | darth_mall | scanline: you like AIC? |
| 19:46.54 | scanline | apparently |
| 19:46.57 | darth_mall | hehe |
| 19:47.03 | scanline | I put a bunch of stuff on my rio that I've been meaning to listen to but haven't yet |
| 19:47.10 | kergoth | yay aic |
| 19:47.13 | darth_mall | what album are you listening to? |
| 19:47.40 | scanline | was listening to their self-titled, on Music Bank disc 1 now |
| 19:48.25 | darth_mall | my favourite is Unplugged ^^ |
| 19:49.12 | darth_mall | Music Bank is cool, but it's just a box set someone put together of their stuff |
| 19:49.18 | scanline | ah |
| 19:50.13 | darth_mall | hmm... I'm pretty sure I'm not going to get this chaos hw done this time... |
| 19:50.32 | scanline | =( |
| 19:50.51 | scanline | tried psyco, or profiling it to see if there are any easy speed gains to be had? |
| 19:51.57 | darth_mall | no |
| 19:52.04 | darth_mall | but with only an hour left before class I'm not sure it will matter |
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| 20:26.15 | scanline | ooh |
| 20:29.08 | scanline | http://navi.cx/~micah/fyre-unfiled/architect's-contortion.png |
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| 20:34.47 | purple_cow | ouch |
| 20:34.57 | purple_cow | midi keyboard controllers are all so expensive :( |
| 20:36.24 | darth_mall | heh |
| 20:36.36 | darth_mall | scanline: that's a perdy one |
| 20:40.21 | scanline | hmm |
| 20:40.35 | scanline | with the grades I've been getting on the tests in physics, I'm not sure it's possible for me to get below a C in the class |
| 20:41.23 | samyb | :( |
| 20:41.34 | scanline | samyb: that's not a bad thing :P |
| 20:42.05 | scanline | oh |
| 20:42.10 | scanline | geez, the grades are also curved |
| 20:42.13 | scanline | a 65% is a C |
| 20:42.19 | scanline | yeah, I'm definitely not worried about this class |
| 20:43.09 | samyb | scanline: I missed the not. |
| 20:45.07 | scanline | I'm sure that after clicker points are factored in, I have 100% on the exams for this physics class so far |
| 20:47.54 | samyb | ;) |
| 20:48.41 | darth_mall | time to go print hw and go to Chaos |
| 20:48.43 | darth_mall | bbl |
| 20:48.46 | scanline | bye darth_mall |
| 20:53.46 | purple_cow | so i may have a cooler job this summer than i thought :) |
| 20:53.58 | scanline | oh? |
| 20:54.14 | pagefault_ | file hello |
| 20:54.16 | purple_cow | well, there was the possibility of working at CMU on this motion stuff |
| 20:54.19 | purple_cow | which would be a pain |
| 20:54.41 | purple_cow | so instead, it looks like i might be working here but going out there a few times :) |
| 20:55.03 | scanline | that's good |
| 20:55.05 | pagefault_ | brb |
| 20:55.57 | purple_cow | hmm, all my homework is on the lappy |
| 21:01.24 | scanline | hmm |
| 21:01.29 | kergoth | hmm! |
| 21:01.42 | scanline | CherryPy looks interesting, though it doesn't really look any more useful than mod_python |
| 21:02.35 | scanline | actually, it looks a lot like twisted.web but without all the twisted baggage that would encompass |
| 21:04.07 | kergoth | uhm |
| 21:04.13 | kergoth | my linode is unhappy again :( |
| 21:04.14 | kergoth | kergoth@covenant |
| 21:04.14 | kergoth | ~$ ssh rikers.org |
| 21:04.15 | kergoth | Segmentation fault |
| 21:09.33 | purple_cow | yay for making the movies stuff on wasabi sane :P |
| 21:09.44 | scanline | how's that? |
| 21:10.02 | purple_cow | getting all the fxds out of /navi, merging things when we have it in two parts... |
| 21:10.13 | purple_cow | making sure all the movies have the correct imdb info... |
| 21:10.18 | purple_cow | (getting lots of homework done) |
| 21:10.32 | scanline | so the fxds are in freevo's local doodad now? |
| 21:10.35 | purple_cow | yep |
| 21:10.37 | scanline | neat |
| 21:10.43 | purple_cow | still going over the network, but not filling up /navi |
| 21:10.48 | scanline | yeah |
| 21:10.53 | scanline | did you have to change the freevo config? |
| 21:12.12 | purple_cow | nope |
| 21:12.22 | purple_cow | seems to just work, since /navi is ro |
| 21:12.28 | scanline | ah, cool |
| 21:12.55 | purple_cow | hmm, a .mpg split into two... |
| 21:13.00 | purple_cow | that's going to be trickier to merge |
| 21:13.06 | scanline | cat :P |
| 21:13.16 | purple_cow | hmm |
| 21:13.19 | purple_cow | that might just work |
| 21:13.19 | scanline | mpeg is probably robust enough to handle that just fine |
| 21:13.25 | scanline | avi is all sucky and tree-like |
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| 21:25.20 | purple_cow | mmm |
| 21:25.20 | purple_cow | pretty |
| 21:31.44 | purple_cow | yay for it having all the nice little usability enhancements |
| 21:31.50 | purple_cow | like focus and tab highlights |
| 21:34.43 | purple_cow | wow. navi's going really thrashy |
| 21:35.25 | scanline | weren't you compiling something on it as well as doing all those AVI merges? |
| 21:36.05 | purple_cow | well, yeah, but i don't see it go that explodey very often |
| 21:36.13 | purple_cow | even when abusing it like that |
| 21:36.27 | scanline | it's not looking all that explodey considering what you're doing to it |
| 21:37.15 | purple_cow | scanline: not anymore |
| 21:37.29 | purple_cow | load jumped to 20 and the nfs server completely wedged |
| 21:37.50 | scanline | well, you're giving it a huge flood of 'changed' events |
| 21:38.00 | scanline | patches welcome |
| 21:41.51 | CIA-8 | covenant-misc: 03kergoth * r20 10libfoo/ (ChangeLog m4/internal/visibility.m4 src/Makefile.am): |
| 21:41.51 | CIA-8 | covenant-misc: * m4/internal/visibility.m4, src/Makefile.am: Update to current |
| 21:41.51 | CIA-8 | covenant-misc: visibility macros, with my copyright and license, and which set |
| 21:41.51 | CIA-8 | covenant-misc: VIS_CFLAGS/VIS_CXXFLAGS rather than mangling CFLAGS/CXXFLAGS |
| 21:41.51 | CIA-8 | covenant-misc: directly. |
| 21:44.22 | scanline | the video BIOS is x86 code |
| 21:46.57 | CIA-8 | covenant-misc: 03kergoth * r21 10libfoo/ (ChangeLog m4/external/check.m4): |
| 21:46.57 | CIA-8 | covenant-misc: * m4/external/check.m4: Add local copy of the 'check' m4 macros, so |
| 21:46.57 | CIA-8 | covenant-misc: libfoo is buildable on machines that do not have check installed. |
| 21:59.53 | KeyserSoze | it looks like there's a small amount of configuration info stored in the video BIOS, that the radeon itself wants. so if you don't have a seperate BIOS chip for the video BIOS, then the config info can be transferred from the main processor to the radeon over PCI. which is weird. |
| 22:00.43 | purple_cow | heh |
| 22:01.13 | CIA-8 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r7289 10xchat-gnome/fe-gnome/fe-gnome.c: a little more valgrind cleanliness |
| 22:05.44 | pagefault | KeyserSoze, it's a BIOS |
| 22:05.47 | pagefault | it has functions |
| 22:05.54 | pagefault | it starts up the card and sets the clock rate |
| 22:06.00 | pagefault | also provides VESA support |
| 22:07.08 | pagefault | anyway |
| 22:07.14 | pagefault | I need to phone dell now |
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| 22:07.23 | pagefault | oops |
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| 22:07.28 | pagefault | bah |
| 22:07.29 | file[laptop] | pagefault: your laptop giving you problems? |
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| 22:07.31 | file[laptop] | :p |
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| 22:07.38 | pagefault | ok |
| 22:07.39 | file[laptop] | lol |
| 22:07.40 | pagefault | that was weird |
| 22:07.42 | pagefault | ctrl key was stuck down |
| 22:07.50 | pagefault | so when I pushed W |
| 22:07.53 | pagefault | it closed the tab :) |
| 22:07.58 | file[laptop] | fun |
| 22:08.01 | KeyserSoze | lol |
| 22:08.06 | kergoth | yay tmbg |
| 22:08.10 | pagefault | ok |
| 22:08.14 | pagefault | anyway time to phone dell |
| 22:08.28 | file[laptop] | why? |
| 22:08.42 | pagefault | need to buy a new battery |
| 22:08.47 | file[laptop] | ah |
| 22:08.50 | file[laptop] | I should go get something to eat |
| 22:09.00 | pagefault | who do I phone though |
| 22:09.01 | pagefault | spare parts? |
| 22:09.04 | pagefault | customer care? |
| 22:09.17 | file[laptop] | spin a wheel! |
| 22:11.09 | pagefault | hah |
| 22:11.15 | pagefault | like no wait time for the sales department |
| 22:13.35 | kergoth | haha |
| 22:13.42 | kergoth | note to self: dont run ctrlproxy, which likes bloating its memory usage, on a linode |
| 22:13.49 | purple_cow | heh |
| 22:13.57 | kergoth | apache just got OOM killed |
| 22:14.04 | purple_cow | ouch |
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| 22:17.12 | kergoth | everybody wants prosthetic foreheads on their real heads. |
| 22:17.45 | pagefault | battery ordered |
| 22:19.25 | KeyserSoze | unless if you want an extra thick padded skull in front, for ramming (like mountain goats have) |
| 22:19.57 | KeyserSoze | or perhaps antlers, if anything has antlers on it's forehead |
| 22:20.00 | KeyserSoze | rhino horn? |
| 22:20.18 | KeyserSoze | or a narwhal? |
| 22:20.25 | KeyserSoze | wait, that's a tooth |
| 22:20.49 | purple_cow | heh |
| 22:23.24 | KeyserSoze | does the video bios have x86 code that the host processor executes, which actually sends crap bakc and forth across the PCI/AGP bus, doing god knows what to the video card? |
| 22:23.28 | KeyserSoze | that'd suck |
| 22:24.27 | KeyserSoze | i always thought you could drop any old agp/pci video card into a mac |
| 22:26.38 | darth_mall | PORKCHOPSANDWICHES! |
| 22:26.49 | KeyserSoze | i dunno |
| 22:27.00 | KeyserSoze | is that like several thin slices of porkchop, layered? |
| 22:27.11 | KeyserSoze | or a big thick hunk of porkchop? |
| 22:27.58 | KeyserSoze | the bread smushed to about 1mm thick, and the porkchop was like 3/8" thick |
| 22:28.06 | purple_cow | hehe |
| 22:28.15 | purple_cow | way to mix up units, yo |
| 22:28.22 | KeyserSoze | then a couple weeks ago, i had a pork loin sandwich, that was 5-7 slices of pork loin |
| 22:29.20 | KeyserSoze | er, .04", and 9.5mm |
| 22:29.37 | KeyserSoze | the sliced pork loin sandwich didn't work very well either, though |
| 22:30.04 | KeyserSoze | but pulled pork sandwiches are very very good |
| 22:30.52 | purple_cow | wow, hard disks are getting really cheap |
| 22:31.07 | purple_cow | 400GB sata are down to $289 |
| 22:31.27 | KeyserSoze | that's cheap alright |
| 22:31.47 | KeyserSoze | hmmm. so they had a previous board that had a ppc 8240, with a silicon motion video card |
| 22:32.29 | KeyserSoze | some genius who doesn't work here anymore used a PCI bus analyzer to snoop the x86 code going accross the bus from the video card to the PC, and rewrote it as PPC assembly |
| 22:36.12 | CIA-8 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r7290 10xchat-gnome/fe-gnome/ (connect-dialog.glade connect-dialog.h): start separating out the connect dialog into it's own glade file/gobject |
| 22:36.49 | CIA-8 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r7291 10xchat-gnome/fe-gnome/ROADMAP: update |
| 22:46.20 | kergoth | hm, websvn is nice, but kinda quirky |
| 23:04.09 | darth_mall | pony? |
| 23:16.42 | purple_cow | hmm |
| 23:17.07 | purple_cow | so after using clearlooks for a couple hours, i like it a lot more than i did :) |
| 23:18.17 | darth_mall | what's clearlooks? |
| 23:18.23 | purple_cow | gtk theme |
| 23:26.54 | kergoth | yay, tmbg - am i awake |
| 23:28.05 | purple_cow | good song |
| 23:28.21 | kergoth | yeah, havent listened to them in a while |
| 23:30.40 | CIA-8 | covenant-misc: 03kergoth * r22 10libfoo/configure.ac: Fix the dreaded NONE:0: m4 error. |
| 23:31.37 | darth_mall | yay Mike! |
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| 23:46.33 | pagefault | froze |
| 23:50.39 | darth_mall | pork? |
| 23:51.14 | lurgy | yay frozen pork |
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| 23:58.59 | darth_mall | yay lurgy |
