| 00:02.04 | CIA-3 | openembedded: 03kergoth 07 * r1.3087 10openembedded/packages/imlib2/imlib2_1.2.0.bb: Unbork the imlib2 build.. its packaging needed tweaks, and its manual set oF EET_CONFIG and FREETYPE_CONFIG was broken by the recent binconfig changes. |
| 00:02.12 | darth_mall | Laser_Dolphin: one thing I would recommend, and you might mention to Jen if you get a chance: drink plenty of water now, it's going to be very hot |
| 00:10.25 | purple_cow | "bender! stop! cutting leela's head off won't solve anything!" |
| 00:16.51 | scanline | *yawn* |
| 00:18.00 | scanline | I wish I could be entertaining like bender |
| 00:21.34 | CIA-3 | openembedded: 03kergoth 07 * r1.3088 10openembedded/packages/giblib/ (giblib_1.2.3.bb giblib_1.2.4.bb giblib.inc): Add giblib 1.2.4 and consolodate some metadata into a .inc. |
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| 00:21.49 | CIA-3 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r7272 10xchat-gnome/fe-gnome/ (Makefile.am plugins.c plugins.h preferences-page-plugins.c): maybe it's less broken, but maybe it's *more* broken! the world may never know |
| 00:23.42 | purple_cow | you're the kind of guy who visits jerusalem and doesn't want to visit the sexiteria! |
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| 00:24.41 | scanline | next year in jerusalem! |
| 00:29.54 | purple_cow | i'll learn ye to sleep with my robot daughters! |
| 00:30.08 | scanline | robots don't say ye! |
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| 00:35.25 | scanline | hi cwisty |
| 00:35.37 | cwisty | hey hey Mr Micah |
| 00:35.45 | scanline | how was the free food? |
| 00:35.56 | cwisty | guud |
| 00:36.01 | scanline | yay, free |
| 00:36.03 | cwisty | catered |
| 00:36.26 | CIA-3 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r7273 10xchat-gnome/fe-gnome/ (fe-gnome.c plugins.c preferences-page-plugins.c): yay, less broken |
| 00:38.19 | CIA-3 | libIRC: 03jeffm2501 * 10libirc/ (3 files in 3 dirs): |
| 00:38.19 | CIA-3 | libIRC: add method to do a nick change |
| 00:38.19 | CIA-3 | libIRC: fix up release builds |
| 00:41.33 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10BZFlagG3D/ (8 files in 7 dirs): have client connect to IRC, and find the list server and ask for a nickname if it needs one. |
| 00:42.20 | scanline | it crept around the ground on round rubber feet, like a wolf! |
| 00:43.29 | purple_cow | yay for commodore LXIV |
| 00:55.53 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10BZFlagG3D/internet/irc/listbot/sample.cfg: update list server bot config with current info |
| 00:56.17 | scanline | uh oh, a 3D version of bzflag! |
| 00:57.16 | file[airport] | oh no! |
| 00:57.31 | JeffM2501 | geting it to work with the lasers in the holotank is not fun |
| 00:59.43 | scanline | everyone! seatbelts to maximum buckling! |
| 01:00.38 | scanline | yeah |
| 01:00.42 | darth_mall | http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/13598605/ |
| 01:01.58 | cwisty | the high schoolers sucked out all my energy |
| 01:02.06 | darth_mall | silly highschoolers and their sucking |
| 01:02.17 | cwisty | haha |
| 01:03.26 | scanline | "Sir, it's not necessary or wise to be naked!" "Oooh.. you sound just like my tennis instructor!" |
| 01:06.01 | darth_mall | hehe -> http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/12257240/ |
| 01:06.11 | darth_mall | concert time |
| 01:06.12 | darth_mall | later kids |
| 01:08.25 | cwisty | laters |
| 01:11.48 | cwisty | scanline? |
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| 01:19.10 | scanline | cwisty: back from laundry |
| 01:19.34 | cwisty | ah |
| 01:19.35 | cwisty | hiu |
| 01:20.08 | scanline | hi |
| 01:25.15 | CIA-3 | openembedded: 03kergoth 07 * r1.3090 10openembedded/packages/imlib2/ (3 files in 2 dirs): |
| 01:25.15 | CIA-3 | openembedded: imlib2: |
| 01:25.15 | CIA-3 | openembedded: * Enable X support, and patch up the buildsystem to do so more intelligently. |
| 01:25.16 | CIA-3 | openembedded: * Depend on x11 and xext. |
| 01:25.16 | CIA-3 | openembedded: * Fixup the -config script. |
| 01:25.16 | CIA-3 | openembedded: * Split out the binaries into a -bin package. |
| 01:25.18 | CIA-3 | openembedded: 03kergoth 07 * r1.3089 10openembedded/packages/giblib/ (4 files in 2 dirs): Apply patch to fixup giblib-config. |
| 01:26.15 | CIA-3 | openembedded: 03kergoth 07 * r1.3091 10openembedded/packages/feh/ (feh_1.2.7.bb feh-1.2.7/cross.patch feh_1.2.6.bb): Add feh version 1.2.7. |
| 01:26.49 | purple_cow | <coffee machine> would you like sugar in your coffee? <fry> yes, uh...8 spoons <coffee machine> OUT OF COFFEE |
| 01:27.13 | scanline | :) |
| 01:30.04 | purple_cow | mmmmmmmmmm |
| 01:30.50 | purple_cow | yay for dinner |
| 01:32.52 | scanline | need.. motivation... |
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| 01:33.35 | cwisty | m dinner |
| 01:35.02 | cwisty | scanline: what you working on? |
| 01:35.13 | scanline | nothing, that's the problem :) |
| 01:35.59 | cwisty | what would you like to be working on |
| 01:36.15 | CIA-3 | openembedded: 03kergoth 07 * r1.3092 10openembedded/packages/freetype/ (freetype-native_2.1.8.bb freetype-native_2.1.7.bb): Fix FILESPATH in freetype-native. |
| 01:37.14 | scanline | cwisty: preferably something I need to be doing, like the senior project or something for spacegrant... but I don't even have motivation to work on my own random projects |
| 01:37.19 | scanline | so I'm doing laundry and watching more futurama |
| 01:37.44 | cwisty | fun fun |
| 01:37.56 | scanline | should probably go get more quarters... |
| 01:38.04 | scanline | I have a growing pile of laundry that I should do but I've been putting off |
| 01:38.12 | scanline | and another pile (currently in the washer) of stuff I actually need |
| 01:42.40 | scanline | hehe |
| 01:43.20 | purple_cow | "those aren't swan-boats, they're swans!" "that explains these boat-eggs" |
| 01:46.06 | purple_cow | oof |
| 01:49.25 | CIA-3 | openembedded: 03kergoth 07 * r1.3093 10openembedded/ (6 files in 5 dirs): Fix the libart-lgpl build for i686. |
| 01:51.48 | scanline | aha |
| 01:56.03 | scanline | huh.. gentoo's mono package comes with the mysql libraries |
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| 01:57.28 | lurgy | lala.. |
| 01:57.53 | scanline | "Drugs are for losers, and hypnosis is for losers with big weird eyebrows!" |
| 01:58.17 | lurgy | hehe |
| 02:00.14 | lurgy | ooooooookeydokey |
| 02:00.17 | lurgy | time to go do that |
| 02:00.23 | scanline | have fun lurgy |
| 02:00.34 | file[airport] | bye bye lurgyness |
| 02:02.29 | file[airport] | blah |
| 02:17.33 | CIA-3 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r7274 10xchat-gnome/fe-gnome/ (gui.h main-window.c): remove last references to the old preferences dialog |
| 02:20.25 | numist | file[airport]: how long are you at the airport for? sheesh |
| 02:20.37 | file[airport] | a LONG time |
| 02:20.40 | file[airport] | 12 hours |
| 02:21.07 | file[airport] | wow in my reflection I look old |
| 02:24.37 | scanline | yay.. a little productivity |
| 02:24.40 | scanline | and more yawning |
| 02:27.13 | scanline | blah for .net being hard to google for |
| 02:30.35 | kergoth | heh |
| 02:42.02 | scanline | darth_mall already agreed? |
| 02:42.19 | purple_cow | he didn't seem to be disagreeing/countersuggesting earlier |
| 02:43.55 | scanline | heh |
| 02:46.05 | slimspace | pipeline editor? |
| 02:46.38 | scanline | slimspace: a UI for editing graphs that control the operation of Fyre 2.0 |
| 02:46.58 | scanline | you'd be arranging boxes representing code snippets, mathematical expressions, concurrency features |
| 02:47.08 | scanline | so it would involve some neat graphics and layout algorithms |
| 02:47.15 | slimspace | hmm... |
| 02:47.15 | scanline | but still be a relatively small project |
| 02:47.19 | slimspace | yeah |
| 02:47.37 | scanline | and we could easily make it more or less complicated, for the class's sake |
| 02:47.44 | scanline | leaving the equation editor for later, for example :) |
| 02:47.54 | purple_cow | and it would be useful beyond the context of a class project ;) |
| 02:47.57 | slimspace | and this would essentially allow us to change what kinds of plots we get fyre to do? |
| 02:47.58 | scanline | yep |
| 02:48.26 | scanline | slimspace: it's for Fyre 2.0.. comparing Fyre 1.0 to fyre 2.0 is like comparing a fixed-function video card to a shader language |
| 02:48.33 | slimspace | hehe, right |
| 02:48.38 | scanline | so you could implement the current functionality of fyre 1.0 as a fyre 2.0 pipeline |
| 02:48.47 | slimspace | that's kinda what I was thinking |
| 02:49.04 | slimspace | I like it |
| 02:49.12 | slimspace | what is planned for fyre 2.0, besides that? |
| 02:49.15 | purple_cow | in fact, it's almost exactly like that ;) |
| 02:49.25 | scanline | each box in the pipeline editor would have inputs, outputs, and some algorithm it performs |
| 02:49.35 | scanline | the inputs and outputs could be scalars, vectors, matrices, etc |
| 02:49.51 | scanline | it would be a data-driven simulation, sort of like labview or simulink |
| 02:50.05 | CIA-3 | openembedded: 03kergoth 07 * r1.3094 10openembedded/packages/ (7 files in 5 dirs): Split libsigc++ 1.2 and 2.0 into seperate entities, as they should be, and adjust the inkscape deps accordingly. Inkscape builds again. |
| 02:50.05 | scanline | but the UI would be designed more like a professional shader editing tool |
| 02:50.12 | scanline | and the backend would be written for extreme speed |
| 02:50.37 | scanline | there would be some way to assign inputs either to other components' outputs, or to user-supplied parameters |
| 02:50.47 | slimspace | wow, sounds cool. And it sounds pretty much like a whole new program. |
| 02:50.51 | scanline | the user-supplied parameters would then be saved in the image, mapped to widgets and tools and such, just like in the current GUI |
| 02:50.53 | scanline | yes, it would be |
| 02:51.03 | scanline | we've been thinking about doing it in C# |
| 02:51.04 | purple_cow | slimspace: well, the frontend would look very similar to the current program |
| 02:51.18 | purple_cow | so you build the pipeline, then it takes any inputs that aren't hooked up and gives you a GUI for them |
| 02:51.20 | slimspace | true, but functionality would be almost completely different. |
| 02:51.33 | scanline | the defaults could be made to look pretty much just like Fyre 1.0 |
| 02:51.37 | scanline | but yes, it would be far more powerful |
| 02:51.50 | scanline | we'd need some kind of JIT engine to compile the pipelines.. and using .NET would make that easy |
| 02:52.08 | scanline | purple_cow did some quick tests, and the core of fyre's calculation loop was running at least as fast in C# as it was in C |
| 02:52.28 | scanline | well, we've had lots of feature-bloating ideas we could add to Fyre 1.0 |
| 02:52.36 | scanline | but we've been holding most of that back for the new architecture |
| 02:52.41 | slimspace | right |
| 02:52.53 | scanline | things like colorization, symmetry, and animation clustering should be much easier to do in 2.0 |
| 02:53.01 | scanline | and more complex initial conditions |
| 02:53.53 | scanline | purple_cow: where's the PNG of that mockup? |
| 02:54.01 | slimspace | purple_cow: noticed you were unmasking gnome 2.10...did you install it? |
| 02:54.11 | purple_cow | slimspace: been emerging |
| 02:54.19 | slimspace | ah. I'm wondering your impressions on it |
| 02:54.21 | purple_cow | about 15 packages left |
| 02:54.22 | scanline | aha |
| 02:54.24 | scanline | slimspace: http://navi.cx/~micah/fyre2-mockup-1.png |
| 02:54.52 | CIA-3 | openembedded: 03kergoth 07 * r1.3095 10openembedded/packages/inkscape/ (inkscape_0.39.bb inkscape_0.38.1.bb): Disable mmx in the inkscape builds. |
| 02:54.52 | purple_cow | i've been running the stuff from BMG |
| 02:55.11 | purple_cow | 2.10 is definitely worth installing, dunno if there are any packaging bugs in the stuff that's masked right now |
| 02:55.16 | slimspace | scanline: looks cool |
| 02:55.29 | scanline | cool. so I guess we just have to make sure darth_mall isn't too disinterested ;) |
| 02:55.58 | slimspace | purple_cow: ah. I've been rumaging around in forums and noticed the lack of a menu editor now |
| 02:56.36 | slimspace | scanline: did you do that in PicoGUI? |
| 02:56.58 | scanline | ...... |
| 02:57.12 | slimspace | hehe |
| 02:57.13 | purple_cow | slimspace: that's been started recently |
| 02:57.24 | purple_cow | but there hasn't been a decent menu editor since 1.4 ;) |
| 02:57.36 | scanline | slimspace: if by picogui you mean inkscape |
| 02:57.45 | slimspace | purple_cow: true. But at least there was some functionality in 2.8 |
| 02:58.00 | slimspace | scanline: ah, that was my other thought. It just looked a bit picogui-ish to me. |
| 02:58.06 | purple_cow | well, you can always do it with .desktop files |
| 02:58.12 | scanline | picogui doesn't really have a look of its own |
| 02:58.13 | slimspace | true |
| 02:58.24 | purple_cow | but a menu editor project was started a couple months ago, iirc |
| 02:58.32 | slimspace | yeah, slated for 2.12 |
| 02:58.37 | scanline | maybe it just looks like that since I drew both that and a few picogui themes :P |
| 02:58.48 | slimspace | scanline: that's probably it |
| 02:59.24 | scanline | slimspace: I'm assuming we'll do this in GTK, though for the graph editor itself the UI won't matter too muchly |
| 02:59.34 | slimspace | I'm fine with gtk |
| 02:59.51 | scanline | er, I guess we should use cairo |
| 02:59.54 | scanline | 'cuz that's cool |
| 03:00.08 | purple_cow | not only is it cool, but libgnomecanvas is deprecated ;) |
| 03:00.26 | scanline | purple_cow: is there a reason other than cairo for that? |
| 03:01.22 | purple_cow | scanline: not too strongly |
| 03:01.24 | kergoth | yay cairo |
| 03:01.37 | purple_cow | the libart apis are pretty crappy, but that's mostly hidden in the canvas |
| 03:06.54 | scanline | ew.. |
| 03:06.56 | scanline | .Equals() |
| 03:16.53 | CIA-3 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r7275 10xchat-gnome/fe-gnome/ (3 files): set title on the preferences window, fix some runtime warnings |
| 03:21.58 | scanline | you sound like a broken MP3! |
| 03:22.12 | kergoth | woo! |
| 03:22.18 | kergoth | the openssh guys added crosscompilation bits |
| 03:22.46 | purple_cow | cool |
| 03:23.06 | purple_cow | yay, all upgraded |
| 03:23.21 | kergoth | sftp has command history |
| 03:23.23 | kergoth | finally |
| 03:36.09 | purple_cow | hurray, seems to work |
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| 03:47.39 | scanline | hmm |
| 03:47.47 | scanline | think I'll get some sleep before finishing this code, rather than after |
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| 04:38.59 | CIA-3 | openembedded: 03kergoth 07 * r1.3097 10openembedded/ (6 files in 4 dirs): Add OpenSSH 4.0p1. |
| 04:39.02 | CIA-3 | openembedded: 03kergoth 07 * r1.3096 10openembedded/site/ (i686-linux i686-linux-uclibc): Add openssh test results to the i686 linux* site files. |
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| 05:14.24 | CIA-3 | openembedded: 03kergoth 07 * r1.3098 10openembedded/packages/ccdv/ccdv.bb: Unbork the ccdv build. |
| 05:27.54 | CIA-3 | openembedded: 03kergoth 07 * r1.3099 10openembedded/packages/libogg/ (libogg_1.1.bb libogg_1.0.bb): Make the libogg builds inherit pkgconfig. |
| 05:39.51 | CIA-3 | openembedded: 03kergoth 07 * r1.3100 10openembedded/ (3 files in 3 dirs): Upgrade beep-media-player from 0.9.7rc2 to 0.9.7, and fix the build by defining _GNU_SOURCE. |
| 05:56.38 | purple_cow | oof |
| 05:56.48 | purple_cow | something in the kitchen or darth_mall's room keeps beeping, and i don't know what it is |
| 06:02.18 | purple_cow | yay for a nice merlot making homework significantly more tolerable |
| 06:12.08 | merlin262 | looks like mplayer is closing its doors |
| 06:12.12 | merlin262 | hey gonkulator |
| 06:12.46 | purple_cow | merlin262: ? |
| 06:13.05 | merlin262 | http://www.mplayerhq.hu/homepage/index.html |
| 06:13.56 | purple_cow | wow |
| 06:14.59 | gonkulator | howdy merlin262 |
| 06:15.54 | merlin262 | what's up gonkulator? |
| 06:16.03 | merlin262 | patent licenses make me mad... |
| 06:19.02 | lurgy | yay for returning and stuff |
| 06:19.31 | purple_cow | hiya lurgy |
| 06:19.58 | lurgy | hiya purple_cow |
| 06:20.51 | lurgy | hehe.. "I myself redirect everything she said to my friend Dave Null" |
| 06:24.19 | lurgy | yay |
| 06:24.22 | lurgy | yeah |
| 06:25.05 | lurgy | i'm getting pretty shocked by all of this |
| 06:25.31 | lurgy | the more that i see of the opinions she's expressed |
| 06:29.37 | purple_cow | i mean, she's done great things with osnews |
| 06:29.48 | purple_cow | but she seems to have some fundamental misunderstandings about how things work |
| 06:29.55 | lurgy | yep |
| 06:30.04 | lurgy | i'm plenty happy with what she does so long as she keeps her mouth shut :P |
| 06:30.42 | purple_cow | heh |
| 06:31.24 | lurgy | gnomefiles is nice |
| 06:31.58 | lurgy | it's doing something productive instead of complaining about how volunteers aren't behaving like corporate employees |
| 06:35.48 | purple_cow | heh |
| 06:35.55 | purple_cow | lurgy: GET TO WORK |
| 06:36.25 | lurgy | hehe |
| 06:44.20 | lurgy | gonkulator: 43 kajillion dollars!! |
| 06:46.25 | gonkulator | yeah, but I want american dollars, and more than 43 |
| 06:49.30 | lurgy | i dunno, american dollars aren't worth as much as they used to be |
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| 06:53.32 | gonkulator | true |
| 06:55.26 | gonkulator | and on that note, I go to bed |
| 06:57.16 | lurgy | night gonkulator |
| 06:58.12 | purple_cow | time to shower, i think |
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| 07:15.59 | numist | yay |
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| 07:29.29 | purple_cow | just what this channel needs, more bots :P |
| 07:50.51 | numist | well, its an experiment |
| 07:51.00 | numist | it doesnt really do anything on the channel side, so I can part it |
| 07:51.03 | purple_cow | so, darth_mall, does a pipeline editor jive with you? |
| 07:54.59 | CIA-3 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r7276 10xchat-gnome/fe-gnome/main-window.c: destroy the preferences dialog when we get a response |
| 08:08.19 | CIA-3 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r7277 10xchat-gnome/fe-gnome/preferences-page-colors.c: now that we're using gtk_dialog_run instead of gtk_widget_show_all, we need to show the widgets we create by hand |
| 08:09.11 | darth_mall | yay for wicked cool concerts |
| 08:10.29 | kergoth | have fun? |
| 08:10.33 | darth_mall | hell yeah |
| 08:10.45 | darth_mall | never been to a Molly show I didn't like ^^ |
| 08:10.52 | darth_mall | and this time both opening bands were good ^^ |
| 08:13.50 | kergoth | nice |
| 08:13.53 | kergoth | who opened? |
| 08:14.23 | darth_mall | The Riverboat Gamblers and Hot Water Music |
| 08:14.38 | darth_mall | I discovered Hot Water Music on a compilation I got at Warped Tour in 2001 |
| 08:20.46 | kergoth | hot water music did an album with alkaline trio? |
| 08:20.56 | darth_mall | yep |
| 08:21.01 | darth_mall | they did a song from that tonight |
| 08:21.02 | darth_mall | good tune |
| 08:21.36 | darth_mall | kergoth: I'd appreciate it if that found it's way to navi, after you get it ;) |
| 08:21.42 | kergoth | k |
| 08:21.50 | kergoth | you might need to remind me |
| 08:21.54 | darth_mall | mk |
| 08:21.57 | kergoth | i've a _lot_ of stuff that needs to go to navi |
| 08:22.01 | darth_mall | hehe |
| 08:22.03 | darth_mall | not a problem |
| 08:22.28 | kergoth | yay for the fbdev and drm folks working on merging |
| 08:24.14 | darth_mall | purple_cow: you should start it with the phrase, "Dear Professor Bonehead" |
| 08:24.30 | purple_cow | heh |
| 08:26.18 | purple_cow | welp, it's sent |
| 08:26.47 | slimspace | coolness |
| 08:27.07 | darth_mall | did you call him prof. Bonehead? |
| 08:27.20 | purple_cow | no... |
| 08:27.28 | darth_mall | oh |
| 08:27.35 | darth_mall | probably for the best |
| 08:27.55 | darth_mall | but still, it woulda been funny |
| 08:29.38 | darth_mall | hmm... I should wash off this sweat and then get some sleep |
| 08:29.47 | darth_mall | g'night kids |
| 08:29.54 | kergoth | night |
| 08:30.00 | slimspace | night |
| 08:46.26 | CIA-3 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r7278 10xchat-gnome/fe-gnome/ (9 files): kill the broken transfers GUI, since it's just using up resources without working. also fix a big handful of memory leaks, both large and small |
| 08:56.05 | CIA-3 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r7279 10xchat-gnome/fe-gnome/irc-network-editor.c: so apparently we were filling the autojoin list with garbage if it didn't have anything in it. whoops |
| 08:56.10 | kergoth | this alkaline trio & hot water music album is good :) |
| 09:11.45 | CIA-3 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r7280 10xchat-gnome/fe-gnome/ (preferences-page-irc.c preferences-page-irc.h): disconnect gconf notification handlers when we free the IRC page. this way we don't crash when displaying the preferences dialog multiple times during a single run |
| 09:20.27 | CIA-3 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r7281 10xchat-gnome/fe-gnome/ (3 files): do an extra unref on our tree models, because i think that's how things work. afaict, we're still losing a few K every time the prefs dialog is shown, but that's not bad, compared to where we were |
| 10:43.13 | numist | yeah, Ill keep him out of this for now |
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| 16:38.24 | StrFox | Does anyone know of a composer on Navi who's music is A:Russian B:Martial? |
| 16:41.50 | CIA-3 | openembedded: 03kergoth 07 * r1.3106 10openembedded/packages/ (8 files in 5 dirs): Fix the efl package builds that were broken by the recent binconfig changes (they were directly specifying the -config script paths in staging_bindir). |
| 16:41.55 | CIA-3 | openembedded: 03kergoth 07 * r1.3100.1.1 10openembedded/packages/genext2fs/ (genext2fs_1.3+cvs.bb genext2fs-1.3+cvs/bytes_per_inode.patch): Apply bugfix from Finn Thain to the bytes_per_inode patch in genext2fs. |
| 17:12.47 | kergoth | ooh, someone told me how to generate the music db for my iriver |
| 17:12.52 | kergoth | can finally browse by tags now |
| 17:12.53 | kergoth | heh |
| 17:15.33 | StrFox | kergoth: yo see Q above and answer |
| 17:15.35 | StrFox | ! |
| 17:15.56 | kergoth | i know nothing about classical music. |
| 17:16.05 | kergoth | nor do i know much about whats on navi |
| 17:16.19 | StrFox | grr |
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| 17:32.35 | zak | StrFox: http://www.barynya.com/mp3/index.stm |
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| 17:41.26 | lurgy | zak: hmm? |
| 17:42.56 | TD | hola |
| 17:43.06 | StrFox | como esta |
| 17:52.14 | scanline | wooblydoo |
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| 18:06.22 | lurgy | cwisty: you're not allowed to be on campus, i forbid it |
| 18:06.44 | cwisty | why not? |
| 18:06.49 | cwisty | I"m at a LAN! |
| 18:06.54 | cwisty | you should come play |
| 18:07.11 | cwisty | (how was page flipping last night BTW?) |
| 18:07.35 | lurgy | hehe, i suppose i can excuse that then :) |
| 18:07.52 | lurgy | not too bad, no major calamities |
| 18:08.02 | lurgy | i almost missed the chair after the last page i turned though |
| 18:08.10 | scanline | lurgy: we're in the CSEL, and there's lots-o-room |
| 18:08.19 | lurgy | yay lots |
| 18:08.24 | lurgy | where's the CSEL now? |
| 18:08.26 | cwisty | hahaha |
| 18:08.29 | cwisty | the fishbowl |
| 18:08.39 | cwisty | me neither |
| 18:08.41 | lurgy | the fishbowl? |
| 18:08.46 | cwisty | I'm never ever herer |
| 18:08.50 | scanline | second time I've been here ;) |
| 18:08.51 | lurgy | Folsom field? :P |
| 18:08.52 | cwisty | the CS wing |
| 18:09.02 | lurgy | hehe |
| 18:09.06 | cwisty | the south west corner of the ECenter |
| 18:09.33 | lurgy | ^_^ |
| 18:09.47 | scanline | behind the big "CS department" doors, and left |
| 18:09.55 | lurgy | gotcha |
| 18:10.15 | darth_mall | uhoh... is lurgy going to the LAN party? |
| 18:10.52 | lurgy | darth_mall: :( |
| 18:11.19 | cwisty | wow |
| 18:11.19 | cwisty | cool |
| 18:11.22 | cwisty | we'll be here |
| 18:11.24 | cwisty | working or playing |
| 18:11.39 | lurgy | ^_^ |
| 18:11.59 | lurgy | cuz.. well, hopefully in the CS wing there will be computers |
| 18:12.54 | cwisty | true |
| 18:13.00 | cwisty | that there are computers here |
| 18:13.06 | lurgy | hehe |
| 18:13.18 | lurgy | boing! |
| 18:13.20 | lurgy | (o) |
| 18:13.22 | scanline | yay |
| 18:13.35 | kergoth | darth_mall: i have 4 hot water music albums, and the hot water music + alkaline trio album |
| 18:13.38 | kergoth | so a total of 5 |
| 18:13.39 | kergoth | want them all? |
| 18:13.51 | darth_mall | yes please |
| 18:13.55 | kergoth | k |
| 18:14.23 | darth_mall | scanline: how long does it take for spreadfs to register new files? should it be instantaneous? |
| 18:14.57 | CIA-3 | openembedded: 03kergoth 07 * r1.3106.1.1 10openembedded/packages/rxvt-unicode/rxvt-unicode_5.3.bb: Add rxvt-unicode 5.3. |
| 18:15.42 | darth_mall | yay |
| 18:16.27 | scanline | darth_mall: it should be, but either spreadfs or FAM have been having trouble. I'll restart it manually |
| 18:17.36 | CIA-3 | openembedded: 03kergoth 07 * r1.3109 10openembedded/packages/hdparm/ (3 files in 2 dirs): Add hdparm 5.8. |
| 18:18.11 | darth_mall | scanline: thanks |
| 18:20.10 | darth_mall | yay it's there! |
| 18:20.13 | darth_mall | ~cpr scanline |
| 18:20.15 | jbot | scanline: <smoochu> :-* |
| 18:21.09 | darth_mall | this one ought to be interesting, it's one of their later albums ^^ |
| 18:21.33 | kergoth | new oingo boingo you say.. i must grab this |
| 18:22.17 | kergoth | hey ChipX86 |
| 18:22.37 | darth_mall | mornin' ChipX86 |
| 18:22.48 | darth_mall | kergoth: Dark at the End of the Tunnel |
| 18:22.52 | ChipX86 | thought I'd get online while waiting to use the shower |
| 18:23.00 | darth_mall | it's available from your local navi |
| 18:23.01 | darth_mall | ;) |
| 18:23.03 | ChipX86 | Jamie's starting to come down with a cold or something :( |
| 18:23.08 | kergoth | :( |
| 18:23.09 | darth_mall | ChipX86: =\ |
| 18:23.14 | darth_mall | gonna take good care of her? |
| 18:23.20 | CIA-3 | openembedded: 03kergoth 07 * r1.3110 10openembedded/packages/fakeroot/ (3 files in 2 dirs): Add fakeroot 1.2.1. |
| 18:23.31 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 18:23.41 | darth_mall | good lad ;) |
| 18:23.51 | ChipX86 | she kept waking up in the middle of the night all congested |
| 18:23.52 | kergoth | i should play a game and be horribly unproductive |
| 18:27.38 | scanline | hahaha |
| 18:27.40 | scanline | " whatever the receiving mail protocol server allows. For exam- |
| 18:27.41 | scanline | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:27.41 | scanline | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:27.45 | scanline | that's from RFC-822 |
| 18:27.50 | scanline | the standard for email |
| 18:28.00 | kergoth | nice |
| 18:28.45 | darth_mall | scanline: =D |
| 18:30.39 | samyb | qtips suck. |
| 18:30.49 | ChipX86 | yeah, I prefer the gtk version |
| 18:31.17 | samyb | heh |
| 18:31.44 | kergoth | whats wrong with qtips? |
| 18:32.52 | samyb | kergoth: Easy to mis-use them. :) |
| 18:33.04 | samyb | kergoth: Very cumbersome. |
| 18:33.26 | kergoth | doh |
| 18:33.33 | samyb | Well, back to school work. |
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| 18:44.50 | darth_mall | blah |
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| 18:58.54 | cwisty | someone off of CU's campus do me a favor and see if you can get to ucec.colorado.edu |
| 18:59.01 | cwisty | http://ucec.colorado.edu |
| 18:59.45 | cwisty | (I just want to see if it's accessable outside yet) |
| 19:01.51 | cwisty | um OK |
| 19:01.53 | cwisty | nevermind |
| 19:02.04 | TD | apparently not |
| 19:02.10 | cwisty | TD? |
| 19:02.17 | cwisty | can you not see it? |
| 19:02.24 | TD | it's sitting on "connecting to...." |
| 19:02.27 | cwisty | ah OK |
| 19:02.30 | cwisty | thanks for checking |
| 19:02.35 | darth_mall | silly cwisty |
| 19:02.41 | cwisty | can you see it darth_mall |
| 19:03.00 | darth_mall | does anyone know if Numeric can do norms? |
| 19:03.09 | darth_mall | cwisty: I can see it |
| 19:03.33 | zak | cwisty: for what it is worth, i can't |
| 19:03.39 | cwisty | and you're at home? |
| 19:04.46 | cwisty | OK thanks everyone! |
| 19:04.57 | darth_mall | cwisty: I am at home |
| 19:05.04 | cwisty | OK |
| 19:05.13 | zak | purple_cow: do you have any Russian march type widgets on navi? |
| 19:05.33 | purple_cow | uh |
| 19:05.35 | purple_cow | clarify? |
| 19:05.38 | darth_mall | wow... there are so many tunes on this album that strike me as a little odd |
| 19:06.38 | zak | purple_cow: my litle brother needs russian music (preferably a march of some type) for a presentation |
| 19:07.06 | zak | he was thinking of something akin to the k19 soundtrack |
| 19:09.50 | purple_cow | hmm |
| 19:11.32 | darth_mall | I bet K19's OST is very similar to Red October's |
| 19:11.38 | darth_mall | since they're both about Russian subs ;) |
| 19:12.25 | darth_mall | hrm... I need to work out a nearest neighbor algorithm... |
| 19:13.15 | purple_cow | if it's allowed to be a little goofy, /navi/media/audio/composers/Shostakovich_Dmitri/jazz_suite_02/01_march.mp3 is a russian march :) |
| 19:13.43 | darth_mall | lol |
| 19:14.25 | darth_mall | quite |
| 19:14.51 | purple_cow | yay, our project idea is approved |
| 19:16.43 | darth_mall | yay |
| 19:19.24 | scanline | yay |
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| 19:20.37 | pagefault | ooh |
| 19:20.40 | pagefault | new packages |
| 19:20.43 | pagefault | it's like christmas |
| 19:22.06 | scanline | oh no, a completely authentic and official email from paypal! |
| 19:22.16 | darth_mall | uhoh |
| 19:23.07 | purple_cow | heh |
| 19:23.09 | purple_cow | ``Your project idea sounds very interesting'' |
| 19:23.14 | purple_cow | i wonder if he has any clue what we're doing :) |
| 19:23.24 | pagefault | haha |
| 19:23.31 | pagefault | he should work for the government |
| 19:23.39 | pagefault | he would fit in perfectly there in the funding department |
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| 19:31.33 | purple_cow | somehow i wasn't expecting anyone to say that |
| 19:31.44 | Laser_Dolphin | Hellos |
| 19:32.30 | darth_mall | hey Laser_Dolphin |
| 19:32.43 | purple_cow | wow |
| 19:32.48 | purple_cow | desert shark attacks! |
| 19:32.50 | Laser_Dolphin | hello darth_mall |
| 19:32.56 | darth_mall | purple_cow: I still don't even know what we're doing, I doubt Anderson does ;) |
| 19:33.07 | Laser_Dolphin | Anyone know why I can't make a directory in /media/audio/groups? |
| 19:33.12 | purple_cow | yep |
| 19:33.19 | darth_mall | Laser_Dolphin: spreadfs doesn't support writes yet |
| 19:33.28 | Laser_Dolphin | darth_mall what's spreadfs? |
| 19:33.31 | darth_mall | gotta go through /mnt/navi/<number>/media |
| 19:33.48 | darth_mall | it's scanline's thing that's better than unionfs but performs a similar function |
| 19:33.51 | purple_cow | i certainly hope you weren't thinking of putting things directly into /navi/media/audio without first ensuring that the filenames and tags were all correct |
| 19:34.04 | darth_mall | hehe |
| 19:34.14 | Laser_Dolphin | The file names are right and the tags had better be right. |
| 19:34.16 | Laser_Dolphin | lemme check first |
| 19:34.29 | Laser_Dolphin | Yup, they be right |
| 19:34.43 | Laser_Dolphin | purple_cow But if you want, I can upload them to incoming |
| 19:34.52 | purple_cow | that would be a better idea ;) |
| 19:35.04 | purple_cow | there are other reasons to use incoming anyway |
| 19:35.28 | Laser_Dolphin | OK |
| 19:35.34 | Laser_Dolphin | s/tha/thats |
| 19:35.35 | purple_cow | like not ending up with partial files in audio/ |
| 19:35.37 | Laser_Dolphin | that |
| 19:36.23 | Laser_Dolphin | Where did incoming go? |
| 19:36.44 | purple_cow | just upload it to your home directory or /tmp and let me know when it's done |
| 19:37.43 | Laser_Dolphin | purple_cow, It's uploading to /tmp now |
| 19:37.46 | Laser_Dolphin | It'll be a while though |
| 19:37.52 | Laser_Dolphin | remote connection and all |
| 19:37.57 | darth_mall | ~stab mpd |
| 19:37.59 | jbot | ACTION runs at mpd with an origami Swiss Army knife, and inflicts a nasty paper cut. |
| 19:38.10 | Laser_Dolphin | HA! |
| 19:38.17 | Laser_Dolphin | go jbot go! |
| 19:39.10 | purple_cow | wow |
| 19:39.27 | purple_cow | so an MS word developer reads p.g.o and is having a nice discussion with everyone :) |
| 19:39.36 | kergoth | neat |
| 19:44.26 | darth_mall | did you guys hear about those bloggers that Apple was sueing? |
| 19:44.58 | purple_cow | nope |
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| 19:46.44 | darth_mall | apparently they were sueing some bloggers to force them to give the names of their sources when they released some super-secret information about Apple's upcoming stuff |
| 19:47.01 | purple_cow | hurray! |
| 19:47.04 | darth_mall | so there was this big trial in Cali about whether bloggers deserve are journalists |
| 19:47.09 | darth_mall | s/deserve// |
| 19:47.20 | purple_cow | one more reason to love apple, ruthless capitalism! |
| 19:47.20 | darth_mall | because Cali has laws protecting journalists from having to reveal sources |
| 19:48.00 | zak | 1000 is a lot but still |
| 19:48.14 | zak | Laser_Dolphin: are you hungry? |
| 19:48.30 | darth_mall | well, you have to remember, when they do those stats it's always under optimal conditions for whatever they're bragging about |
| 19:48.37 | darth_mall | so they probably used really crappy audio files that were tiny |
| 19:48.56 | zak | like 2500 sound effects? |
| 19:48.58 | zak | heh. |
| 19:49.36 | Laser_Dolphin | Are you downstaris? |
| 19:49.44 | zak | i suppose i do have several classical sorts on there, and those files are much larger |
| 19:49.51 | zak | but only 20 or so |
| 19:49.56 | zak | Laser_Dolphin: si |
| 19:51.03 | Laser_Dolphin | zak, I'm kinda hungry |
| 19:51.08 | Laser_Dolphin | zak, what do you propose? |
| 19:51.48 | Laser_Dolphin | zak, hummm |
| 19:51.58 | scanline | zak: usually the "N songs" quotes are 64kbps WMA or some other silly format, at 3 minutes per song |
| 19:52.18 | zak | scanline: that is perposterous |
| 19:52.27 | zak | no-one makes sons like that |
| 19:53.25 | darth_mall | the point of things like that is not to be realistic, but to be impressive |
| 19:53.28 | darth_mall | that's just how it goes |
| 19:53.38 | Laser_Dolphin | zak, How about lo mein? |
| 19:53.55 | purple_cow | darth_mall: looks like for nearest neighbor i just did a loop through all points that were at least 20 iterations away from the current point and checked distance |
| 19:53.58 | purple_cow | i didn't do the cone thing |
| 19:54.34 | purple_cow | hmmm |
| 19:55.51 | scanline | hmm |
| 19:55.59 | scanline | I might be starting to come down with purple_cow's cold again |
| 19:56.03 | purple_cow | :( |
| 19:56.09 | darth_mall | scanline: =\ |
| 19:56.11 | scanline | so maybe it will go away |
| 19:56.15 | scanline | who knows |
| 19:56.31 | scanline | and hmm |
| 19:56.34 | darth_mall | purple_cow: so you started from 20 points away and walked down the entire rest of the trajectory? |
| 19:56.40 | scanline | my neck and ribs are sore. must have been sleeping at an odd angle |
| 19:57.02 | scanline | :) |
| 19:57.03 | zak | from very far. |
| 19:57.13 | scanline | how very far? |
| 19:57.20 | Laser_Dolphin | zak, Stat making M&C. I'm almost done w/ my electronics analysis. |
| 19:57.21 | zak | about a block |
| 19:57.31 | zak | stat! |
| 19:57.37 | scanline | I'm on campus |
| 19:57.44 | zak | hmmm |
| 19:57.55 | zak | a mile ten |
| 19:58.03 | zak | s/ten/then |
| 19:58.12 | scanline | yay, a mile ten |
| 20:00.08 | darth_mall | scanline: purple_cow wants to know if you're going to be coming home anytime soon |
| 20:00.13 | zak | my hug dmeter can't resolve the distance between the distance from our apt to school and rich's apt to school :P |
| 20:00.16 | scanline | darth_mall: nope |
| 20:00.34 | darth_mall | thought so |
| 20:00.57 | zak | s/dmeter/ distonometer |
| 20:01.13 | scanline | planning on hanging out in the CSEL pretty much all day working on this project thingy and maybe playing games |
| 20:02.51 | darth_mall | yay games |
| 20:03.01 | darth_mall | but, I've said that already |
| 20:03.06 | darth_mall | so I'll quite whining about that now |
| 20:04.51 | pagefault | where is fil |
| 20:04.51 | purple_cow | hmm, todays that party thingy |
| 20:04.51 | pagefault | e |
| 20:04.58 | darth_mall | yep |
| 20:06.55 | scanline | purple_cow: dan and I are here. Christy was here, but left for her water polo tournament. There's also Chris Schenk, Nels, and a couple guys I don't recognize |
| 20:07.56 | scanline | hmm, dan's leaving |
| 20:08.16 | scanline | he didn't bring a computer, and he was just ssh'ing around from cwisty's shuttle :) |
| 20:08.42 | purple_cow | dan? as in lurgy-dan? |
| 20:08.44 | scanline | yes |
| 20:09.57 | purple_cow | hmm |
| 20:10.15 | scanline | bleh |
| 20:13.27 | Laser_D|DNStairs | w00t! Hot water! |
| 20:13.52 | Laser_D|DNStairs | *jumping* |
| 20:14.10 | scanline | wow |
| 20:14.15 | scanline | why haven't you had hot water? |
| 20:14.43 | zak | nick Laser_D|DNStairs |
| 20:14.49 | zak | damn |
| 20:15.40 | Laser_D|DNStairs | They did some plumbing here and may have screwed up the hot water |
| 20:16.11 | Laser_D|DNStairs | It sucks b/c my heat is run on hot water so we have no heat |
| 20:16.58 | scanline | ah. this is at Rich's apartment, whoever you are? :) |
| 20:17.54 | purple_cow | heh |
| 20:19.32 | purple_cow | hmm |
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| 20:34.11 | zak | scanline: that would have been rich :P |
| 20:34.24 | zak | slimspace: NO YAWNING |
| 20:34.38 | slimspace | zak: oh, sorry :P |
| 20:35.29 | slimspace | yay for prelink making my slow laptop run almost twice as fast |
| 20:35.37 | purple_cow | ooh, neat |
| 20:35.51 | purple_cow | looks like they've reworked bootchart to be pretty much distro independent :) |
| 20:35.56 | purple_cow | slimspace: hurray prelink! |
| 20:36.48 | zak | wow file[airport] you miss us so much you are paying ofr internet at the airport |
| 20:36.51 | slimspace | I have pretty much everything load in the background as X starts |
| 20:36.59 | file[airport] | actually it's free here |
| 20:37.05 | purple_cow | slimspace: well, for some reason there's a big I/O block when i log into gnome |
| 20:37.16 | purple_cow | which adds about 10 seconds to my login |
| 20:37.16 | file[airport] | and I don't even connect through the net to my machine at home, it's on the ISP's network... so I have a reliable connection to my MP3s |
| 20:37.19 | purple_cow | so i wanna know what it is |
| 20:37.26 | slimspace | wow, that's significant |
| 20:37.55 | slimspace | I just wish I could kick GDM into rendering faster on my slow laptop. Takes around 10 seconds just to put something on the screen. |
| 20:38.02 | slimspace | Though I guess I don't need to use themes... |
| 20:39.02 | slimspace | maybe that's a way to go...auto login, but keep the themes... |
| 20:40.31 | slimspace | the only one I know that does that with my comps is zak, and it really doesn't bother me |
| 20:41.24 | zak | purple_cow: i remember those days...and would lke to think i have grown up a bit :P |
| 20:41.25 | purple_cow | slimspace: i think you misunderstand "take advantage" |
| 20:41.39 | slimspace | mmm? |
| 20:44.14 | purple_cow | welp, kernel is rebuilt with psacct |
| 20:44.18 | slimspace | 2.5 minutes from kernel start to all applets and gnome started |
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| 20:44.20 | purple_cow | time to try this craaazy thing out |
| 20:44.25 | pagefault | file file file |
| 20:45.44 | file[airport] | hey pagefault |
| 20:47.30 | pagefault | hello |
| 20:47.32 | pagefault | where are you? |
| 20:47.36 | file[airport] | Halifax |
| 20:47.44 | pagefault | cool |
| 20:47.49 | pagefault | they have wireless in halifax but not toronto |
| 20:47.51 | pagefault | how offensive |
| 20:47.56 | file[airport] | it's free too |
| 20:48.13 | pagefault | bah |
| 20:48.34 | file[airport] | and it gives me a clear route to my box in Moncton, since it's the same ISP ;) |
| 20:48.57 | file[airport] | I'm 4 hops away from it |
| 20:51.12 | pagefault | fun |
| 20:51.35 | file[airport] | so clearing customs was a breeze |
| 20:51.45 | file[airport] | the woman was very friendly, we made small talk, MUCH better then US customs |
| 20:52.08 | pagefault | argh stupid nvidia |
| 20:52.11 | pagefault | new nforce drivers |
| 20:52.13 | pagefault | but they still use OSS |
| 20:52.14 | pagefault | WHY |
| 20:52.18 | pagefault | argharghargh |
| 20:52.31 | pagefault | file[airport], cool |
| 20:52.35 | file[airport] | easy now |
| 20:53.47 | pagefault | yeah |
| 20:53.48 | pagefault | I know |
| 20:54.01 | pagefault | it's just always once piece of hardware in my system has some issue in linux |
| 20:54.05 | pagefault | be it ati's drivers |
| 20:54.08 | pagefault | or nvidia's |
| 20:54.11 | pagefault | oh well |
| 20:57.09 | pagefault | yes |
| 20:57.12 | pagefault | even though you hate it |
| 20:57.24 | file[airport] | yes |
| 20:57.33 | file[airport] | what place did we go to in SJC... ah yes |
| 20:57.35 | file[airport] | a seafood place |
| 20:58.23 | slimspace | hmm...2:13 now |
| 20:58.38 | pagefault | not a seafood type person? |
| 20:59.57 | file[airport] | correct |
| 21:00.00 | file[airport] | I dislike seafood |
| 21:00.12 | purple_cow | time to try this again |
| 21:00.19 | file[airport] | I did try the swordfish though |
| 21:00.22 | file[airport] | that was decent |
| 21:00.30 | slimspace | purple_cow: do you use coldplug at all? |
| 21:01.50 | pagefault | silly file |
| 21:02.12 | file[airport] | very silly |
| 21:02.43 | pagefault | everyone has their thing |
| 21:02.47 | pagefault | I can't eat uncooked tomatos |
| 21:03.27 | file[airport] | sure you can |
| 21:04.03 | purple_cow | slimspace: no |
| 21:04.05 | pagefault | right now I am having hot wings with a pint |
| 21:04.07 | pagefault | the best lunch ever |
| 21:04.25 | slimspace | figured. That's probably a source of slowdown for me |
| 21:05.27 | purple_cow | neat |
| 21:05.29 | purple_cow | http://navi.cx/~jupiter/bootchart.png |
| 21:06.04 | purple_cow | looks like evolution-alarm-daemon is a big slowdown for me, since i don't need it |
| 21:07.39 | purple_cow | bleh, and python does have a big I/O thingy at the beginning of it |
| 21:08.54 | scanline | heh, is thermapplet really slowing down your boot? :P |
| 21:09.05 | scanline | you must be pretty bored |
| 21:09.09 | slimspace | tomboy slows mine down the most |
| 21:09.18 | purple_cow | wowie |
| 21:09.20 | purple_cow | without the thermapplet, i can log into gnome in less than 5 seconds |
| 21:09.22 | purple_cow | instead of >15 |
| 21:10.33 | samyb | upgrade |
| 21:10.40 | samyb | Hey. |
| 21:10.42 | samyb | hmm |
| 21:10.52 | samyb | bbl actually |
| 21:12.10 | scanline | yay, cwisty's back |
| 21:12.12 | scanline | and she won |
| 21:13.15 | purple_cow | scanline: first i'm going to see how much i miss it ;) |
| 21:17.11 | scanline | why is thermapplet slowing down other parts of the gnome startup that much? |
| 21:20.46 | *** part/#tacobeam JeffM2501 (~jeffm@Patlabor221.active.supporter.pdpc) |
| 21:22.49 | purple_cow | scanline: for some reason the panel isn't loading things in parallel |
| 21:22.55 | purple_cow | at least, not everything |
| 21:23.14 | purple_cow | so the thermapplet has a big I/O block at the beginning (probably loading all the modules), and nothing can proceed until that's done |
| 21:23.32 | purple_cow | i don't pretend to understand brannigan's law, i just enforce it |
| 21:26.08 | slimspace | you can see that effect really well on my slow laptop. It loads things from the upper-right to the lower left, in order. |
| 21:26.31 | slimspace | s/upper-right/upper-left |
| 21:31.18 | slimspace | hmm...now my battery and system monitor applets |
| 21:31.22 | slimspace | seem to be the slow ones |
| 21:31.42 | scanline | what good is booting a few seconds faster if you have to disable everything? heh |
| 21:31.51 | scanline | nerds... |
| 21:31.55 | scanline | ;) |
| 21:32.31 | slimspace | scanline: not sure why purple_cow would care, but when your bootup is already at 2:30 from switch on to gnome ready, a few seconds can make a huge difference. |
| 21:32.47 | slimspace | especially on a very slow computer |
| 21:32.49 | scanline | my mocking still stands |
| 21:33.14 | purple_cow | scanline: well, it was causing 10s of lag when i logged into gnome |
| 21:33.36 | slimspace | hmm...that's a first. I'm nusing no swap memory now |
| 21:33.45 | slimspace | s/nusing/using/ |
| 21:34.10 | StrFox | scanline: how much Phys mem/ |
| 21:34.12 | StrFox | ? |
| 21:34.31 | purple_cow | scanline: it's a question of diminishing returns. some things i can live without if it causes my bootup (a relatively common operation on kirby) to be significantly faster |
| 21:35.25 | scanline | StrFox: ? |
| 21:35.31 | slimspace | I just like things to move more snappy. Rebooting on my little laptop isn't all that common (yay working ACPI), but it's nice anyway |
| 21:37.31 | StrFox | scanline: sorry, wrong button... |
| 21:37.47 | slimspace | wow...for the first time, the major hardware bottleneck is the CPU speed, not the harddrive |
| 21:38.10 | file[airport] | now THAT'S scary |
| 21:38.19 | StrFox | slimspace: whats the os? |
| 21:38.28 | slimspace | StrFox: Linux, of course |
| 21:39.09 | StrFox | ah, efficient code |
| 21:39.12 | purple_cow | same reason i've got my sound modules turned off by default |
| 21:39.22 | purple_cow | (ignore the fact that sound is broken for now ;) |
| 21:39.45 | purple_cow | i can load them by hand if i need them, but it saves me about 7 seconds |
| 21:40.39 | slimspace | I disabled the module dependency part of /etc/init.d/modules. Saves me roughly 10 seconds. |
| 21:42.41 | slimspace | turns out console fonts running in the background was the cause of that. |
| 21:47.41 | slimspace | purple_cow: is there a way to disable evolution-alarm-notify? |
| 21:49.16 | purple_cow | slimspace: i dunno |
| 21:49.52 | slimspace | it's using 8mb of ram that I could easily reclaim |
| 21:50.09 | purple_cow | it's in the session, but listed as a normal process, so something else is starting it up :P |
| 21:50.22 | slimspace | probably evolution-data-server |
| 21:51.01 | purple_cow | hmm |
| 21:51.34 | slimspace | do you have your panel compiled for evolution support? |
| 21:53.27 | purple_cow | hmm |
| 21:54.33 | pagefault | RUN LOLA RUN |
| 21:55.16 | purple_cow | not explicitly, but it could be including it unintentionally |
| 21:55.23 | scanline | groovy |
| 21:58.07 | purple_cow | groovy? |
| 21:58.35 | scanline | groovy! |
| 21:58.57 | kergoth | hmm... pizza.. |
| 21:59.51 | purple_cow | mmmm |
| 22:00.02 | purple_cow | hurray for the live outside album |
| 22:01.19 | purple_cow | what an incredibly awesome version of the motel |
| 22:07.48 | pagefault | damnit I want some pizza |
| 22:07.54 | pagefault | what a big tease |
| 22:13.11 | CIA-3 | zsnes: 03pagefault * 10zsnes/src/video/newgfx16.asm: Major framerate improvement when using new graphics engine |
| 22:22.49 | scanline | this is weird |
| 22:22.59 | scanline | I haven't listened to techno or trance much in year |
| 22:23.01 | scanline | er, years |
| 22:23.08 | scanline | but a lot of these songs I recognize |
| 22:27.54 | purple_cow | http://navi.cx/~jupiter/edays.svg <- thoughts? |
| 22:28.54 | scanline | grr |
| 22:29.03 | scanline | xchat-gnome's "copy link location" is kerbroke |
| 22:29.33 | purple_cow | no it isn't |
| 22:29.40 | purple_cow | X's clipboard is fundamentally broken |
| 22:29.49 | scanline | purple_cow: doesn't look much at all like an E, maybe this isn't rendering correctly |
| 22:29.57 | purple_cow | xchat-gnome puts the link into the copy buffer, not the middle-click buffer |
| 22:30.03 | scanline | oh |
| 22:30.05 | scanline | pshaw |
| 22:30.09 | purple_cow | scanline: it should look like a sigma |
| 22:30.27 | scanline | a little... |
| 22:31.19 | purple_cow | http://navi.cx/~jupiter/edays.png |
| 22:32.33 | scanline | ah, that makes more sense |
| 22:32.39 | purple_cow | oh well, i'll call that good enough for a 10 minute job |
| 22:32.43 | scanline | my inkscape was rendering it more like a slanted box with a line sticking out |
| 22:32.43 | purple_cow | and if i win, yay for free money |
| 22:41.13 | scanline | hmm |
| 22:41.19 | purple_cow | scanline: presumably over where you are |
| 22:41.24 | scanline | you could bring all the shuttles, we could install windows on them, and have warcraft machines ;) |
| 22:41.29 | scanline | well, I was curious what you'd be playing |
| 22:41.44 | cwisty | all the shuttles? |
| 22:41.52 | purple_cow | cwisty: ignore him ;) |
| 22:41.53 | scanline | cwisty: his extra set-top-boxes for the DLC |
| 22:41.58 | scanline | >:) |
| 22:49.01 | pagefault | no wc3? |
| 22:49.04 | pagefault | what a travesty |
| 22:52.02 | scanline | 700 MHz PIII with an i810 :P |
| 22:52.13 | scanline | it would probably run in absolute best-case circumstances |
| 22:52.21 | scanline | but it wouldn't be pretty, and it really wouldn't like running this map |
| 22:56.18 | pagefault | yeah maybe |
| 22:56.49 | purple_cow | wow, it's snowing again |
| 23:01.17 | purple_cow | scanline: your mom called wanting to know if you wanted some monitor |
| 23:02.05 | scanline | monitor.. huh |
| 23:02.56 | scanline | anyone here using IE? |
| 23:06.46 | scanline | http://destinymm.navi.cx <-- does the moon in the top-left corner show up correctly transparent, or with some ugly border? |
| 23:08.42 | numist | ... |
| 23:09.05 | *** join/#tacobeam SleepyJason (~Jason@smct43-92-dhcp.resnet.colorado.edu) |
| 23:09.11 | scanline | yay, it's SleepyJason |
| 23:09.18 | SleepyJason | huzzah |
| 23:09.32 | SleepyJason | in CSEL or in casa? |
| 23:09.41 | scanline | casa? we're in the CSEL |
| 23:09.50 | scanline | are you using IE right now? |
| 23:09.56 | SleepyJason | Nopers... |
| 23:10.02 | SleepyJason | My lappy blew up after sat night |
| 23:10.08 | SleepyJason | been trying to fix it |
| 23:10.08 | scanline | eek |
| 23:10.12 | scanline | that sucks :( |
| 23:10.13 | scanline | good luck |
| 23:10.25 | scanline | what's wrong with it? |
| 23:10.34 | SleepyJason | Appears to be CPU overheat |
| 23:10.38 | scanline | eek |
| 23:10.42 | SleepyJason | locks after a few secs |
| 23:10.49 | SleepyJason | I put in the fridge and it worked better |
| 23:10.52 | scanline | ah, so not permanent |
| 23:11.01 | scanline | maybe a cracked heat pipe or some loose thermal pad? |
| 23:11.08 | SleepyJason | If I work in a fridge.. |
| 23:11.17 | slimspace | scanline: the moon in the upper-left corner shows up correctly from IE 6 |
| 23:11.20 | SleepyJason | yeah, I need to take it apart, but I 'm not sure I've got the tools |
| 23:11.36 | scanline | slimspace: yay! |
| 23:11.41 | scanline | slimspace: thanks |
| 23:11.51 | SleepyJason | how is the lan thingy going? |
| 23:11.51 | slimspace | no prob |
| 23:12.20 | scanline | SleepyJason: I have a big set of jewlers' screwdrivers and some really odd screwdriver bits, and any screws those wont' get into we can dremel a slot into >:) |
| 23:12.37 | scanline | SleepyJason: pretty much everyone is playing enfos in WCIII now |
| 23:12.43 | SleepyJason | hehe... well jeez I have a dremel |
| 23:12.49 | SleepyJason | fun fun fun |
| 23:12.50 | scanline | wont' run on my laptop, so I've been half-working half screwing around |
| 23:13.01 | SleepyJason | IC |
| 23:13.15 | SleepyJason | Are your toolz in SG? |
| 23:13.33 | SleepyJason | I'm not sure where I put my tube of thermal crud... |
| 23:14.15 | scanline | SleepyJason: sometimes it seems like it, but no- usually my tools are in my apartment :) |
| 23:14.47 | SleepyJason | I'll try and dig up my car toolz... I have a few star wrenches and etc... |
| 23:15.19 | SleepyJason | It froze right before I left your place and it seems to be getting worse. I'm not sure if it is the higher temps or what... |
| 23:40.50 | *** part/#tacobeam SleepyJason (~Jason@smct43-92-dhcp.resnet.colorado.edu) |
| 23:52.31 | purple_cow | yay, just 2 more diagrams to draw |
| 23:52.52 | scanline | oh no, diagrams |
| 23:53.02 | slimspace | scanline: have you started that homework? |
| 23:53.22 | scanline | no |
| 23:53.52 | slimspace | ah. glad I'm not the only one then |
| 23:59.59 | purple_cow | oh no! |
