| 00:05.45 | CIA-3 | spacegrant: 03evan * r1046 10mck/PyMCK/ (ADCS/Coordinates.py ADCS/SGP4.py Types.py): |
| 00:05.45 | CIA-3 | spacegrant: Move the Coordinate class to Types, delete ADCS.Coordinates cuz it's |
| 00:05.45 | CIA-3 | spacegrant: dumb, and change the import in the SGP4 module |
| 00:06.10 | purple_cow | why would you use a guy's nose for an aphrodesiac? instead of, you know, the wing-dang-doodle? |
| 00:07.02 | darth_mall | time to head home and get a little studying done for OS |
| 00:14.09 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10BZFlagG3D/common/ (inc/OSFile.h src/OSFile.cpp): Add method to just parse up a text file on a simple deliminator and return a list of strings. |
| 00:22.50 | kergoth | hrm |
| 00:31.04 | ChipX86 | yay, deliminator |
| 00:34.55 | ChipX86 | Study: Computers can't cure all medical errors |
| 00:35.06 | purple_cow | say it isn't so! |
| 00:35.40 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10BZFlagG3D/server/ (VC71/server.vcproj inc/serverOptions.h src/serverOptions.cpp): server side config parser |
| 00:39.48 | CIA-3 | openembedded: 03kergoth 07 * r1.3043 10openembedded/packages/libpcl/libpcl_1.4.bb: Add libpcl 1.4 (a library that implements the low level functionality for coroutines (see Knuth for details)). |
| 00:44.59 | purple_cow | maybe we're all wearing magic rings, but they're invisible rings, so we're not aware of them! also, you can't feel the rings |
| 00:45.25 | ChipX86 | :D |
| 00:45.29 | ChipX86 | what's that from again? |
| 00:45.40 | purple_cow | futurama |
| 00:45.44 | ChipX86 | ah, thought so |
| 00:45.48 | purple_cow | go go go new justice team |
| 00:47.56 | kergoth | yay! my swelling is now _completely_ gone |
| 00:47.58 | kergoth | took long enough |
| 00:48.02 | ChipX86 | :D |
| 00:50.32 | purple_cow | an elephant who never forgets....TO KILL! |
| 00:50.52 | kergoth | hah |
| 00:57.22 | ChipX86 | purple_cow: have you seen the english translations to the Katamari Damashii lyrics? |
| 00:58.23 | purple_cow | some of them |
| 00:59.07 | ChipX86 | they amuse me way too much |
| 01:00.07 | kergoth | hah, my colinux console catches my alt-tab when i tab to another app |
| 01:02.20 | purple_cow | so this oop assignment isn't quite as bad as the last one, but it's still kind of tedious |
| 01:03.43 | darth_mall | yay tedious |
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| 01:06.13 | purple_cow | ooh |
| 01:06.18 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10BZFlagG3D/server/ (inc/server.h src/server.cpp src/serverOptions.cpp): give the server an abstracted applet class |
| 01:06.20 | purple_cow | new makehuman preview |
| 01:08.56 | darth_mall | why can't CS professors even make pdf's correctly? |
| 01:09.42 | cwisty | what do you mean? |
| 01:09.50 | cwisty | (example?) |
| 01:10.37 | darth_mall | cwisty: remind me and I'll show you pdfs made by two different profs in two different classes where they've done something that makes the slide hard to read |
| 01:10.53 | cwisty | ok |
| 01:10.59 | cwisty | next time I see you |
| 01:11.10 | darth_mall | either because they couldn't create a pdf from their slides correctly (or their software couldn't *cough*keynote*cough*) |
| 01:11.25 | darth_mall | or they did something to the slides that made them hard to read |
| 01:13.33 | darth_mall | hrm... I still need to e-mail Anderson at some point and bring up the fact that it's his precious laptop that's causing all the problems with the presentations |
| 01:13.47 | purple_cow | hehe, olde fortran malt liquor |
| 01:13.59 | pagefault | k |
| 01:15.00 | darth_mall | ^^ |
| 01:15.25 | darth_mall | the best thing about Fortran is that I haven't had to deal with it in about 3 or 4 months =D |
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| 01:27.59 | purple_cow | darth_mall: any interest in ordering food? |
| 01:28.55 | ChipX86 | darth_mall: the best thing about Fortran is that the last time I dealt with it, it was a board game |
| 01:33.03 | purple_cow | hey! unless this is a nude love-in, get the hell off my property! |
| 01:38.58 | purple_cow | we will begin with the firemen, then the math teachers, and so on, in that fashion |
| 01:45.39 | pagefault | k |
| 01:45.41 | pagefault | time to play WoW |
| 01:47.59 | pagefault | or not |
| 01:48.02 | pagefault | auth server is down |
| 01:54.08 | purple_cow | there are many good reasons to eat: hunger, boredom, wanting to be the world's fattest man. but not revenge! |
| 01:58.20 | purple_cow | pitiful ball-players of earth: i am ethan bubblegum tape, commander of the harlem globetrotters! |
| 02:14.12 | purple_cow | doomsday device? ah! now the ball's in farnsworth's court! |
| 02:25.26 | purple_cow | hehe |
| 02:25.46 | purple_cow | lodgetorium comfort inn dome: free porn or bible in room |
| 02:26.29 | kergoth | i didnt get my sharp objects today :( |
| 02:33.42 | purple_cow | i'm proud to be the shepherd of this herd of sharks |
| 02:38.54 | purple_cow | we may not be a traditional family like the Murphys next door or the lesbian coven across the street, but we're still a family! |
| 02:43.22 | scanline | dunno yet |
| 02:58.57 | purple_cow | hmm |
| 02:59.48 | purple_cow | i wonder if the UML "decision" thingy is valid within a sequence diagram |
| 03:00.01 | purple_cow | and the fifth reason whales kill is for the sheer fun of it! |
| 03:00.43 | scanline | hmm, ordering food |
| 03:01.24 | ChipX86 | yay home |
| 03:02.14 | scanline | purple_cow: what did you have in mind? |
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| 03:03.18 | purple_cow | scanline: dunno. thinking a little about that asia bistro place |
| 03:03.48 | purple_cow | jail's not so bad, you can make sangria in the toilet. 'course it's shank or be shanked |
| 03:04.01 | scanline | turlet! |
| 03:04.08 | purple_cow | heh |
| 03:05.00 | purple_cow | gotta go! uhh....fight club! |
| 03:05.39 | scanline | hmm |
| 03:05.51 | scanline | broke 200 miles on my bike odometer. about time.... |
| 03:06.23 | ChipX86 | http://www.cs.huji.ac.il/~yweiss/Colorization/ |
| 03:06.40 | purple_cow | hmm, almost 600 |
| 03:06.53 | purple_cow | ChipX86: whoa |
| 03:06.57 | purple_cow | that's cool |
| 03:07.00 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 03:07.17 | scanline | wow |
| 03:07.17 | ChipX86 | if that's real, wow |
| 03:07.28 | ChipX86 | look at the movie clips |
| 03:15.52 | pagefault | hmm |
| 03:15.59 | pagefault | zsnes for windows runs faster under wine |
| 03:16.02 | pagefault | than the native linux port |
| 03:16.07 | ChipX86 | that's not good |
| 03:16.19 | pagefault | it's probably due to the lameness that is SDL :/ |
| 03:17.10 | pagefault | is there any good way to profile a program in linux |
| 03:20.12 | pagefault | I need to port over the win32 api function QueryPerformanceTimer() to linux |
| 03:20.16 | pagefault | since linux seems to have nothing like it |
| 03:24.01 | pagefault | maybe I need to write a x11drv backend |
| 03:26.05 | scanline | anybody cool will be running zsnes with OpenGL, and then SDL performance shouldn't really matter |
| 03:26.34 | pagefault | OpenGL is horrible for 2d |
| 03:26.45 | scanline | and SDL is fairly efficient... might want to look for linux-specific bugs before blaming SDL |
| 03:26.58 | scanline | pagefault: it's still better than software scaling |
| 03:27.12 | scanline | I guess you could also do Xv pretty nicely |
| 03:27.15 | pagefault | doesn't X have any hardware scaling routines? |
| 03:27.22 | pagefault | thats what directdraw does |
| 03:27.37 | scanline | X doesn't, OpenGL does |
| 03:27.52 | pagefault | that blows |
| 03:28.40 | pagefault | hmm |
| 03:28.50 | pagefault | I guess profiling the could would help find the slow points |
| 03:29.15 | scanline | profiling is always the first thing you try |
| 03:29.19 | scanline | otherwise you're just guessing |
| 03:29.27 | pagefault | I just hope it's not in the SDL functions where it's slow |
| 03:29.43 | scanline | I'd doubt it, but if you do find a bug in SDL it's pretty easy to hack on |
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| 03:30.05 | pagefault | just at this point |
| 03:30.12 | pagefault | it's rather tempting to just use the windows port under wine |
| 03:30.15 | pagefault | which is pretty wrong |
| 03:30.17 | pagefault | heh |
| 03:30.30 | Cae | does anyone know of a site with just a list of the usual c++ header files and the common stuff that needs them? |
| 03:30.54 | Cae | my test tomorrow is open notes, so I am wary that he will pull something random |
| 03:31.01 | scanline | talking about the STL? |
| 03:31.26 | Cae | yeah |
| 03:31.37 | scanline | http://www.sgi.com/tech/stl/ |
| 03:31.47 | scanline | er, actually |
| 03:31.48 | scanline | http://www.sgi.com/tech/stl/table_of_contents.html |
| 03:32.39 | pagefault | sgi? |
| 03:32.43 | pagefault | heh thats an interesting resource |
| 03:32.53 | scanline | sgi invented the STL, and they have the best reference on it |
| 03:33.03 | pagefault | ahh |
| 03:33.05 | pagefault | didn't know that |
| 03:33.23 | purple_cow | sgi's implementation became the reference implementation |
| 03:33.30 | purple_cow | and most of their extensions are becoming standard too |
| 03:33.55 | Cae | humm |
| 03:34.01 | scanline | hmm |
| 03:34.06 | scanline | purple_cow: I like your food idea |
| 03:34.45 | Cae | I basically just want a list that tells me vector requires <vector>, the various memory alloc thingies require <memory>, and what the others are needed for.. |
| 03:35.12 | Cae | I shouldn't need to know half of these though. hum. |
| 03:35.21 | Cae | maybe I should stop being lazy and actually read the notes |
| 03:35.39 | Cae | eh..naaaahhh.. |
| 03:36.50 | pagefault | sounds like you want a STL tree or something |
| 03:37.49 | Cae | well, most of them are fairly obvious. memory and vector, for example |
| 03:39.40 | scanline | mmm, edamame |
| 03:39.45 | Cae | then a lot of search-related stuff requires algorithm, and whatnot |
| 03:39.59 | scanline | maybe I'll have the same thing purple_cow's having :) |
| 03:40.02 | scanline | that looks good |
| 03:40.56 | Cae | edamame? |
| 03:41.15 | scanline | no, basil chicken from this asian place |
| 03:41.34 | scanline | they have a pretty spiffy mix of thai, japanese, vienamese, and chinese stuffs |
| 03:41.56 | Cae | for the most part we just use <vector>, <string>, and <iostream> |
| 03:42.00 | purple_cow | buddha! zeus! god! one of you guys, do something! help! satan, you owe me! |
| 03:42.30 | scanline | cwisty: tried this Moongate Asian Bistro place yet? |
| 03:43.43 | purple_cow | hmm |
| 03:43.56 | scanline | ew :P |
| 03:44.01 | slimspace | are you sick? |
| 03:44.23 | purple_cow | well, it's really just drawing sequence diagrams |
| 03:48.51 | cwisty | scanline: nope |
| 03:49.07 | cwisty | in beer and onions |
| 03:52.25 | Cae | have fun |
| 03:53.53 | ChipX86 | stupid network |
| 03:54.39 | scanline | hmm. it's weirdly cool committing to my schedule and to-do list |
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| 03:55.37 | purple_cow | "all right, you can be crummy universe A, and we'll be universe 1" "or we could be the mongooses. that's a cool team name. the fighting mongooses" |
| 03:56.03 | purple_cow | "the professor's right! you are evil! and shallow" "i am not evil!" |
| 03:56.18 | scanline | yikes, network bubble |
| 03:56.35 | scanline | cwisty: hmm, I should do that sometime. It smelled far too good last time darth_mall cooked brats |
| 03:56.56 | cwisty | it's good |
| 03:57.05 | cwisty | although my eyes can't stand the onions |
| 03:57.09 | scanline | :) |
| 03:57.24 | scanline | you should have been around when we were making that soup... I think it was french onion or something similar |
| 03:57.38 | scanline | basically 5 onions in a pot with a few other minor ingredients |
| 03:57.46 | scanline | we really should have had a fume hood for the kitchen |
| 03:57.50 | purple_cow | well, don't look into it, but i'm a respected internal medicine doctor! ooh, a can! |
| 03:58.15 | scanline | with many surviving patients? |
| 03:58.22 | purple_cow | not this time |
| 03:58.29 | scanline | ah, right |
| 03:59.05 | scanline | slimspace: soooooo, how are we going to approach them papers? |
| 03:59.28 | slimspace | scanline: very slowly, and with big planks of wood |
| 03:59.34 | hardwire | scanline: I just got permission to cost out a windsock farm |
| 03:59.34 | hardwire | heh |
| 03:59.36 | scanline | wood with nails? |
| 03:59.43 | scanline | hardwire: you nut |
| 03:59.46 | slimspace | scanline: the one and only |
| 03:59.48 | hardwire | scanline: how range are you getting out of your simple rfpic setup |
| 03:59.52 | hardwire | or whatever it is |
| 04:00.12 | scanline | hardwire: not using rfpics, but these are similar.. haven't range tested it yet, I just know it works fine in our apartment building |
| 04:00.21 | hardwire | hehe |
| 04:00.24 | hardwire | I want 8 miles |
| 04:00.25 | scanline | hardwire: it's turning out to be really low power |
| 04:00.27 | scanline | :) |
| 04:00.28 | slimspace | scanline: we can probably start tackling it tomorrow, although I'll most likely be busy with physics homework... |
| 04:00.42 | hardwire | scanline: basically throwing a lot of windtails on a 50 foot guy wired pole |
| 04:00.45 | hardwire | all over st paul island |
| 04:00.50 | scanline | slimspace: well, commit whatever you have to svn. I might at least try to get outlines and such started tonight |
| 04:01.04 | hardwire | because we own a wind power gen out there |
| 04:01.05 | scanline | slimspace: but I should have time tomorrow for this |
| 04:01.08 | hardwire | and are thinking of adding another |
| 04:01.11 | hardwire | but need to know the flow patterns |
| 04:01.14 | kergoth | bleh |
| 04:01.35 | hardwire | scanline: well I might find a PSK transmitter w/ a good range. |
| 04:01.36 | slimspace | scanline: hehe, already in svn. I haven't worked on it since the abstract |
| 04:01.44 | scanline | slimspace: k, same for me |
| 04:01.50 | hardwire | and just use that and a pic w/ rtc |
| 04:01.53 | cwisty | slackers |
| 04:02.06 | cwisty | ;-) |
| 04:02.09 | scanline | cwisty: you can tell how excited we are about the symposium :) |
| 04:02.16 | cwisty | man |
| 04:02.18 | cwisty | you should be |
| 04:02.19 | cwisty | I have a job |
| 04:02.26 | cwisty | you guys are still lookin |
| 04:02.39 | cwisty | slimspace: I know how that is |
| 04:02.49 | cwisty | I was at space grant form 9 hours yesterday |
| 04:02.49 | cwisty | ug |
| 04:03.13 | cwisty | don't think of it as a space grant thing |
| 04:03.25 | slimspace | cwisty: I might have a job at ball over the summer |
| 04:03.26 | cwisty | think of it as a job getting, possibly money obtaining gig |
| 04:03.31 | cwisty | yay! |
| 04:03.34 | cwisty | go you |
| 04:03.39 | cwisty | doing software? |
| 04:03.43 | slimspace | pending the whole interview thing |
| 04:03.49 | slimspace | of course. Flight and ground software |
| 04:03.53 | cwisty | hot |
| 04:04.00 | cwisty | well good luck with your interview |
| 04:04.04 | scanline | indeed |
| 04:04.12 | slimspace | thanks |
| 04:04.14 | cwisty | let us know how it goes for sure! |
| 04:04.15 | scanline | mmm.. Zero 7 |
| 04:04.23 | slimspace | cwisty: I will |
| 04:04.28 | cwisty | :-) |
| 04:05.03 | cwisty | when is your interview? |
| 04:05.59 | hardwire | scanline: is it a specific psk modulation that hardware uses? |
| 04:06.02 | hardwire | or AFSK? |
| 04:06.03 | hardwire | or something. |
| 04:06.23 | scanline | I really need to take the big rubber stamp that says "ASK ME EE QUESTIONS" off my head |
| 04:06.30 | scanline | :P |
| 04:06.39 | cwisty | haha |
| 04:06.44 | cwisty | quit answering them! |
| 04:06.49 | cwisty | that's the quickest way |
| 04:06.49 | scanline | yeah, I should do that |
| 04:06.51 | hardwire | :) |
| 04:06.54 | hardwire | ok |
| 04:06.55 | hardwire | sorry |
| 04:07.04 | hardwire | but I can't see your head |
| 04:07.08 | hardwire | change your nick |
| 04:07.11 | scanline | oh, you can't? |
| 04:07.22 | scanline | I can see yours |
| 04:07.26 | hardwire | spooky |
| 04:08.58 | scanline | hmm, is that our food? |
| 04:09.05 | scanline | ooh, sounds like it |
| 04:10.43 | hardwire | heh |
| 04:10.46 | hardwire | popcorn? |
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| 04:12.52 | scanline | delivery |
| 04:13.35 | scanline | mmm |
| 04:13.41 | scanline | kinda messy |
| 04:13.44 | scanline | but quite tasty |
| 04:14.39 | purple_cow | hmm |
| 04:15.09 | scanline | whoa |
| 04:15.13 | scanline | twisted 2.0 prerelease |
| 04:21.08 | hardwire | I really really want a papa johns garlic chicken pizza |
| 04:21.25 | hardwire | or the tuscany chicken from the other pizza place around town |
| 04:21.56 | hardwire | hehe.. so little ceasers got bought out by the Great Alaskan Pizza Co |
| 04:22.02 | hardwire | we uh.. ordered it a few nights back |
| 04:22.10 | hardwire | all of a sudden we were tasting the late 80's |
| 04:22.17 | hardwire | it was slightly freaky |
| 04:22.22 | scanline | wow, little ceasars |
| 04:22.33 | hardwire | it smelled just like little ceasers too |
| 04:22.35 | hardwire | so freaky |
| 04:22.55 | hardwire | never ordering there again |
| 04:23.05 | scanline | hehe |
| 04:23.10 | scanline | hmm |
| 04:23.12 | scanline | http://twistedmatrix.com/users/radix/2.0/ |
| 04:23.23 | scanline | while it's nice to see they're running twisted.web, they could at least add file sizes |
| 04:23.25 | hardwire | twiiiiisted |
| 04:23.54 | hardwire | I still need to grapple with twisted |
| 04:24.07 | scanline | but it's cool.. looks like they actually went through with their plan to split a bunch of things out of twisted into separate subprojects, to reduce the tendency for twisted to be one of those silly do-everything libraries |
| 04:24.09 | hardwire | I seem to be more sales and management that programmer lately |
| 04:24.31 | hardwire | yeh.. initially twisted was a scary thing |
| 04:24.32 | hardwire | for me |
| 04:24.34 | hardwire | atleast |
| 04:24.39 | hardwire | seeing it split out like this makes me happy |
| 04:24.46 | hardwire | but I didn't think you had to include this all anyways |
| 04:24.54 | hardwire | so why does it matter if its tarballed differently? |
| 04:26.41 | scanline | well, that's pretty much all it is IIRC.. distribution |
| 04:26.47 | kergoth | bleh |
| 04:27.09 | scanline | but it makes sense now that twisted has all this crazy stuff that lots of people who use it don't need |
| 04:27.35 | kergoth | twisted split up? excellent |
| 04:27.36 | scanline | wow |
| 04:27.43 | scanline | they sure included a lot of chicken |
| 04:27.51 | scanline | mmm.. meaty... |
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| 04:39.20 | scanline | stomach.. overload.. |
| 04:40.09 | purple_cow | oh no! |
| 04:40.20 | purple_cow | either the backup or restore was bad =( |
| 04:44.38 | ChipX86 | ? |
| 04:44.55 | purple_cow | the movie i was watching cut out after about 15 minutes |
| 04:50.40 | kergoth | bleh |
| 04:56.55 | nullpuppy | hmm |
| 04:58.05 | nullpuppy | hmm |
| 04:58.12 | nullpuppy | kergoth: are you nearish to Austin? |
| 04:58.12 | purple_cow | mmm |
| 04:58.44 | purple_cow | lookit that beautiful diagram |
| 04:58.45 | nullpuppy | Ok, got a few more bits of info regarding the Austin SXSW concert. IT IS FREE!!!! So if you wernt sure about coming, nw you have NO reason! Flyleaf will be on stage at 8pm Sharp. |
| 04:58.48 | nullpuppy | So to recap, FREE concert on March 16th at Spiros in Austin, TX. |
| 04:59.09 | scanline | ooh |
| 05:03.14 | kergoth | nullpuppy: few hours away, i'm in dallas |
| 05:03.19 | kergoth | free concert eh.. |
| 05:03.20 | nullpuppy | ah, ok |
| 05:08.37 | purple_cow | bleh |
| 05:08.46 | purple_cow | it shouldn't take 2 hours to draw a diagram like this |
| 05:10.28 | kergoth | heh |
| 05:11.58 | purple_cow | ~fishstab UML |
| 05:22.02 | nullpuppy | hmm, found live cd of flyleaf, 9 tracks |
| 05:22.09 | nullpuppy | well.. live stuff at least |
| 05:22.36 | purple_cow | nullpuppy: hurray! |
| 05:23.04 | nullpuppy | :) |
| 05:25.43 | nullpuppy | oooooh |
| 05:26.10 | nullpuppy | looks like Howard Benson is producing the flyleaf album |
| 05:26.14 | purple_cow | hurray for the doctor taking a floozie wherever he goes |
| 05:27.19 | cwisty | what's with you guys and floozies? |
| 05:27.33 | nullpuppy | lurgy: its already *there* but its hard masked |
| 05:27.36 | CIA-3 | spacegrant: 03dowty * r1047 10doc-misc/symposium/pymck_paper.tex: Remove the date from the comments- it's old, and that's svn's job to keep track of |
| 05:27.57 | hardwire | multipath routing is a headache |
| 05:28.00 | hardwire | esp after 3 pints |
| 05:28.02 | cwisty | why the term "floosie" though |
| 05:28.16 | cwisty | I don't hear it often other than from you all |
| 05:28.30 | purple_cow | probably a futurama influence |
| 05:30.53 | lurgy | ooh nullpuppy is right |
| 05:31.00 | lurgy | cwisty: us guys? can't say |
| 05:31.07 | lurgy | hmm, us guys you say |
| 05:31.19 | cwisty | hehe |
| 05:31.22 | cwisty | especially you Dan |
| 05:31.26 | cwisty | especially you |
| 05:31.30 | nullpuppy | lurgy: of course i'm right :) |
| 05:31.58 | lurgy | heh, see now look how far darth_mall has slandered my good name =p |
| 05:32.32 | purple_cow | looks like they're getting 2.10 in much faster than 2.8 |
| 05:32.37 | purple_cow | which i suppose isn't hard :P |
| 05:32.39 | lurgy | yep, this is good |
| 05:33.08 | nullpuppy | purple_cow: yeah, but i want to throttle the ebuild makers for neglecting to add ~amd64 to the keywords |
| 05:33.52 | purple_cow | yep |
| 05:33.56 | purple_cow | tales like "lurgy is tall" |
| 05:34.03 | CIA-3 | spacegrant: 03dowty * r1048 10doc-misc/symposium/ (integration-abstract standards_paper.tex): |
| 05:34.03 | CIA-3 | spacegrant: Reconfooble what I have for the standards paper so far into the same format Cory |
| 05:34.04 | CIA-3 | spacegrant: started using for the pymck paper. The abstract was changed only slightly for |
| 05:34.04 | CIA-3 | spacegrant: formatting, and the outline has been included in a comment block. |
| 05:34.42 | CIA-3 | spacegrant: 03dowty * r1049 10doc-misc/symposium/: svn:ignore |
| 05:34.47 | cwisty | so tell me a story lurgy |
| 05:34.53 | cwisty | tell me a take |
| 05:34.54 | scanline | hehe, uh oh |
| 05:34.55 | cwisty | tale |
| 05:35.24 | lurgy | yeah, but it wouldn't be like him to stop at "lurgy is tall," then it would go on to how tall my floozies would be if they all stood on each other's shoulders |
| 05:35.30 | lurgy | cwisty: i think i can do that |
| 05:35.34 | cwisty | good |
| 05:35.37 | cwisty | do it up |
| 05:35.40 | lurgy | wel |
| 05:35.40 | lurgy | l |
| 05:35.42 | cwisty | set me straight |
| 05:35.50 | lurgy | it all starts in the year 1922 |
| 05:35.56 | nullpuppy | mmmm, this live stuff rocks |
| 05:36.32 | lurgy | a young man by the name of Horace C. Watts was testing the potential of ex-presidents as a source of cheap natural fuel |
| 05:37.14 | scanline | see, this is why lurgy is so good at balderdash |
| 05:37.18 | scanline | none of his stories are real |
| 05:37.24 | cwisty | hehe |
| 05:37.35 | lurgy | "Eureka!" he said, and jumped into his volkswagen model T |
| 05:37.45 | scanline | :) |
| 05:37.58 | scanline | purple_cow: ooh, "starce" to make a backtrace... got yourself another winner |
| 05:37.59 | lurgy | but doing so displaced the clowns in his car |
| 05:38.07 | purple_cow | i think the proper term is winnar |
| 05:38.18 | scanline | U GOT TEH WINNAR! |
| 05:38.48 | lurgy | these now-homeless clowns got bored and joined the Republican party |
| 05:39.26 | lurgy | and for this, Horace paid dearly. |
| 05:40.39 | lurgy | the end. |
| 05:40.45 | cwisty | yay |
| 05:40.59 | lurgy | cwisty: a story like that one? |
| 05:41.04 | cwisty | no |
| 05:41.07 | cwisty | but that was great! |
| 05:41.08 | lurgy | oh |
| 05:41.11 | lurgy | hehe |
| 05:41.38 | lurgy | so you're into fiction then |
| 05:41.39 | lurgy | hmm |
| 05:41.43 | cwisty | yeah |
| 05:41.54 | cwisty | and we were going down the line of floosies |
| 05:41.58 | cwisty | no floosies in that story |
| 05:42.15 | lurgy | heh, it's a pretty short line, if anybody's in it |
| 05:42.29 | scanline | poor lurgy |
| 05:42.35 | cwisty | that stack isn't very tall? |
| 05:42.40 | cwisty | (of flosies) |
| 05:42.43 | scanline | his life isn't as glamorous as his web page made it seem |
| 05:42.51 | lurgy | heh, no |
| 05:42.55 | lurgy | scanline: my web page? |
| 05:43.12 | scanline | http://navi.cx/~lurgyman |
| 05:43.19 | lurgy | hehe |
| 05:43.27 | lurgy | i guess not |
| 05:43.44 | lurgy | strange, yes |
| 05:43.46 | lurgy | glamorous.. hardly |
| 05:43.56 | cwisty | so tell me a story |
| 05:44.07 | lurgy | aboot? |
| 05:44.11 | lurgy | :) |
| 05:44.15 | cwisty | you |
| 05:44.21 | cwisty | I dunno you |
| 05:44.27 | lurgy | hmm |
| 05:44.28 | lurgy | story |
| 05:44.38 | purple_cow | guh |
| 05:44.56 | purple_cow | i think HostingGeek is responsbile for all of the recent winnars |
| 05:45.06 | scanline | how's that? |
| 05:45.36 | purple_cow | i think he's referring all of his "friends" to it |
| 05:45.42 | scanline | hah |
| 05:47.02 | nullpuppy | purple_cow: eta of about another 2 minutes and 9 new tracks will be up (5 new songs, 4 live versions of whats on the ep) |
| 05:47.09 | lurgy | hmm |
| 05:47.11 | purple_cow | sweet :D |
| 05:48.06 | CIA-3 | spacegrant: 03dowty * r1050 10doc-misc/symposium/Makefile: Add a makefile |
| 05:48.46 | lurgy | cwisty: narrow down the kind of story you're looking for ;) |
| 05:49.13 | cwisty | floosies |
| 05:49.17 | cwisty | ;-) |
| 05:49.29 | lurgy | hehe, oh my.. |
| 05:49.42 | lurgy | seems like cwisty has a one-track mind tonight |
| 05:49.44 | nullpuppy | hrm.. well.. its in my home dir now |
| 05:50.00 | cwisty | usually |
| 05:50.03 | nullpuppy | i can't seem to move it and i don't see an incoming dir anymore |
| 05:50.06 | cwisty | most nights are like that |
| 05:50.10 | lurgy | ^_^ |
| 05:50.14 | cwisty | tell me what ever kinda story you want lurgy |
| 05:50.15 | scanline | cwisty: darth_mall likes to perpetuate this lurgy+floosies stereotype since lurgy is the only one of us that ever seems to hang around women |
| 05:50.37 | cwisty | well then a story about why would be aplicable |
| 05:50.41 | cwisty | no? |
| 05:50.47 | cwisty | oh |
| 05:50.53 | lurgy | :) |
| 05:50.54 | cwisty | tell me a happy fun story |
| 05:51.14 | purple_cow | like...the story behind your new dating quiz :) |
| 05:51.22 | lurgy | hah, i suppose i can do that |
| 05:51.29 | cwisty | hahah |
| 05:51.31 | cwisty | yeah |
| 05:51.35 | cwisty | I didn't get that story |
| 05:51.46 | scanline | hmm, I don't think I did either |
| 05:52.07 | lurgy | so i almost sort of kind of maybe pseudodated this Terri girl once over the summer |
| 05:52.38 | lurgy | she was incredibly sweet but not so much what you'd call an intellectual |
| 05:52.41 | scanline | is this the kind of pseudodating that involves a court order, or not? |
| 05:52.51 | lurgy | hehe, no court order |
| 05:52.54 | scanline | yay |
| 05:53.02 | purple_cow | (we'll call her floozie 1 for now) |
| 05:53.06 | lurgy | hah |
| 05:53.12 | cwisty | hot |
| 05:53.13 | cwisty | go on |
| 05:54.36 | lurgy | well, it never would have worked, we had nothing at all in common besides a mutual dislike of the one professor we'd both taken a class from at different points |
| 05:55.33 | lurgy | this became painfully obvious when she gave me the tour of her apartment and listed her interests as journalism (since that's what she studies), modelling, and marilyn monroe |
| 05:55.41 | scanline | hehe |
| 05:55.46 | cwisty | haha |
| 05:55.48 | lurgy | now of course as a male, it's difficult not to be interested in that second to last one to an extent |
| 05:55.57 | lurgy | but not from the same angle |
| 05:56.06 | cwisty | what angle? |
| 05:56.07 | scanline | lurgy: you'd make a fine model |
| 05:56.18 | scanline | I'm not sure what for... |
| 05:56.19 | lurgy | cwisty: from the being a model angle |
| 05:56.27 | lurgy | scanline: toasters! |
| 05:56.44 | scanline | lurgy: I was thinking cat food, but that works too |
| 05:56.46 | cwisty | badgers? |
| 05:56.49 | lurgy | mmm cat food |
| 05:56.53 | lurgy | hehe badgers.. |
| 05:57.44 | lurgy | and then she eventually gave me the "not interested in a relationship" (i.e., "...with you") speech anyways |
| 05:57.50 | lurgy | which was kind of a relief i suppose |
| 05:58.07 | lurgy | yay toasters! |
| 05:58.55 | cwisty | so just because she wasn't interested in a relationship with you, you now have the quiz? |
| 05:59.00 | lurgy | nono |
| 05:59.01 | cwisty | (still waiting for that connection) |
| 05:59.09 | lurgy | there's more before that kicks |
| 05:59.10 | lurgy | ..in |
| 05:59.14 | cwisty | ah |
| 05:59.15 | cwisty | ok |
| 05:59.17 | cwisty | go on |
| 05:59.43 | lurgy | (and by that point i honestly wasn't too into the idea of a relationship either, so it wasn't so horrible) |
| 06:00.03 | lurgy | (though, maybe it's just easier to say that after the fact, i dunno :P) |
| 06:00.10 | cwisty | sure |
| 06:00.11 | scanline | hehe |
| 06:00.13 | lurgy | anyhoo |
| 06:00.22 | lurgy | then over break |
| 06:00.26 | lurgy | there was this tirzah girl |
| 06:00.39 | cwisty | floosie #2 |
| 06:00.44 | lurgy | heh, sure |
| 06:01.03 | lurgy | she did a phenomenally good job at leading me on after she broke up with her erm.. pseudoboyfriend |
| 06:01.54 | lurgy | and right before she was about to give me an "i know he's kind of an ass but oh well i'm going back to him" talk |
| 06:02.10 | lurgy | she told me that |
| 06:02.14 | lurgy | a) not only was she an ex-model |
| 06:02.15 | lurgy | but |
| 06:02.32 | scanline | I still find it amusing that lurgy's social life is the talk of the apartment while purple_cow, darth_mall, and I manage to mostly keep to ourselves ;) |
| 06:02.40 | purple_cow | heh |
| 06:02.46 | lurgy | heh indeed |
| 06:02.50 | lurgy | why not darth_mall dammit |
| 06:02.53 | lurgy | it's all a ploy |
| 06:03.16 | lurgy | but then b) she was filling out an application to appear on "America's Next Top Model" |
| 06:03.20 | lurgy | which bothered me in so many ways |
| 06:03.23 | scanline | hah |
| 06:04.00 | lurgy | hence the quiz |
| 06:04.03 | cwisty | haha |
| 06:04.06 | lurgy | it's very simple |
| 06:04.09 | cwisty | why did that bother you? |
| 06:04.09 | hardwire | I smell so smokey |
| 06:04.11 | hardwire | damnit |
| 06:04.36 | purple_cow | scanline: well, lurgy's social life is generally more interesting |
| 06:04.48 | purple_cow | the most i could muster would be a zapp-style "i'm so lonely!" |
| 06:04.57 | scanline | silly purple_cow and his "lonely" |
| 06:05.16 | lurgy | cwisty: i dunno, there are character traits i was, *erhem* somehow blinded to initially |
| 06:05.30 | cwisty | haha |
| 06:05.33 | cwisty | like? |
| 06:05.40 | cwisty | (typical sterotype stuff?) |
| 06:05.43 | lurgy | and given my ability to be blinded so easily it would be convenient to be able to predict their existence ahead of time |
| 06:05.50 | lurgy | yeah, pretty typical stereotype stuff |
| 06:06.11 | lurgy | moral of the story: |
| 06:07.56 | lurgy | uh oh, did scanline never hear about the contents of the quiz? |
| 06:08.00 | scanline | nope |
| 06:08.02 | lurgy | it's got one question on it |
| 06:08.25 | lurgy | it would look something like this |
| 06:08.33 | lurgy | ------------------------------------------- |
| 06:08.39 | lurgy | QUIZ THINGY |
| 06:08.40 | lurgy | ------------------------------------------- |
| 06:09.11 | lurgy | Please mark "True" or "False" next to each question provided, as appropriate. |
| 06:09.24 | cwisty | scanline: how did you not hear about this? Even I heard about this |
| 06:09.41 | lurgy | ____ 1. I am or have in the past been involved with a modelling company or agency in some fashion. |
| 06:09.46 | scanline | lurgy: :) |
| 06:09.47 | lurgy | ------------------------------------------- |
| 06:09.51 | lurgy | END OF QUIZ THINGY |
| 06:09.52 | lurgy | ------------------------------------------- |
| 06:10.08 | lurgy | true is NOT the right answer |
| 06:10.13 | cwisty | moral of story: lurgy should date ugly women |
| 06:10.39 | lurgy | hehe |
| 06:11.12 | lurgy | or i should just not go out of my way to find ones with whom i seem to have nothing in common |
| 06:11.24 | cwisty | that is a great idea |
| 06:11.33 | cwisty | find one of them nice rare engineering chics |
| 06:11.41 | cwisty | they're nice and normal ;-) |
| 06:11.51 | lurgy | hehe |
| 06:11.53 | scanline | haha |
| 06:12.29 | cwisty | wut? |
| 06:12.51 | lurgy | this is also why i didn't reply when one of the opera vocalists kind of hit on the trombone section |
| 06:13.03 | scanline | I think you have to be careful not to find someone that's in a field too close to your own.. you'll just end up arguing over things you both know way too much about |
| 06:13.04 | lurgy | though i'm still pretty sure it was mostly at the tuba player |
| 06:13.14 | lurgy | she was wearing about 37 metric bucketloads of makeup |
| 06:13.18 | lurgy | and wasn't even in costume |
| 06:13.24 | lurgy | she's just terrifying when she is in costume |
| 06:14.05 | scanline | cwisty: I just got this absolutely terrifying mental image of this Lauren person that I've had a bunch of CS classes with |
| 06:14.22 | cwisty | eh |
| 06:14.35 | cwisty | I'd rather date someone doing what I do than someone I have nothing in common with |
| 06:15.02 | cwisty | people who can't keep up with me aren't as much fun |
| 06:15.05 | cwisty | and girls suck |
| 06:15.08 | cwisty | normal ones anyway |
| 06:15.11 | scanline | well, I guess I'd just be afraid of dating someone that you'd argue over favorite editors or shells with ;) |
| 06:15.18 | purple_cow | lurgy: hit on the entire section? |
| 06:15.19 | lurgy | cwisty: :) |
| 06:15.22 | cwisty | they tend to play dum cause they think guys like it |
| 06:15.23 | lurgy | purple_cow: pretty much |
| 06:15.27 | cwisty | or like to feel smarter |
| 06:15.34 | lurgy | purple_cow: she kind of looked vaguely in our direction and said "gimme some of that trombone" |
| 06:15.35 | cwisty | haha |
| 06:15.36 | rioter | dating a nerd isnt as much fun as it sounds |
| 06:15.42 | scanline | heh |
| 06:16.02 | cwisty | depends on the nerd . . . |
| 06:16.02 | lurgy | purple_cow: i'm not sure how that could have been interpreted any other way |
| 06:16.11 | rioter | cwisty i guess thats true |
| 06:16.15 | scanline | rioter: some nerds are lots of fun to date |
| 06:16.25 | lurgy | scanline: oh yeah? :) |
| 06:16.38 | scanline | rioter: I just think (purely out of speculation) that you might need to be more careful |
| 06:17.06 | scanline | lurgy: I'm not interesting, go back to talking about yourself |
| 06:17.08 | rioter | scanline i got stuck with someone who prefered to stay at home on a friday night on the computer than go out, i cant deal with that |
| 06:17.16 | lurgy | scanline: nono, do carry on :) |
| 06:17.29 | cwisty | rioter: that sucks |
| 06:17.42 | lurgy | cwisty: STORY! |
| 06:17.44 | cwisty | that's why you need an extroverted/social engineer |
| 06:17.54 | cwisty | story? |
| 06:17.58 | cwisty | what about? |
| 06:18.05 | lurgy | floosies? |
| 06:18.13 | lurgy | cwisty: i need an extroverted social engineer? |
| 06:18.15 | rioter | cwisty yeah, but thats a rare thing amongst nerds, and ive dated the only decent female in my uni course |
| 06:18.16 | cwisty | I don't have floosie stories |
| 06:18.18 | lurgy | or scanline? or rioter? |
| 06:18.25 | cwisty | I was talkin to rioter |
| 06:18.26 | cwisty | but sure |
| 06:18.30 | purple_cow | cwisty: shame |
| 06:18.41 | cwisty | I didn't say it wasn't rare rioter |
| 06:18.53 | lurgy | cwisty: ok, story 'bout studly male engineers then |
| 06:18.54 | cwisty | sowry purple_cow |
| 06:18.59 | cwisty | hahahaha |
| 06:19.02 | cwisty | oh man |
| 06:19.20 | lurgy | uh oh |
| 06:19.26 | lurgy | :) |
| 06:20.05 | cwisty | I don't have any good stories |
| 06:20.13 | cwisty | anout studly engineers |
| 06:20.20 | cwisty | they're rare like those extroverted girlies |
| 06:20.48 | rioter | i got hit in the head by a peice of metal today cause i put something on the grinder at to much of an angle |
| 06:20.57 | cwisty | I'm better at offering suggestions |
| 06:21.01 | lurgy | cwisty: ok, studly male non-engineers? :) |
| 06:21.10 | cwisty | dunno any of those either |
| 06:21.21 | cwisty | everyone I know is an engineer/astronomer |
| 06:21.27 | lurgy | aha |
| 06:21.30 | ChipX86 | /astronaut |
| 06:21.31 | lurgy | studly male *astronomers* then |
| 06:21.35 | cwisty | haha |
| 06:21.43 | cwisty | hmmm |
| 06:21.50 | cwisty | what kinda story? |
| 06:22.01 | rioter | i dont know how you can do that, my friends have nothing in common really |
| 06:22.07 | rioter | and i couldnt imagine life any other way |
| 06:22.10 | rioter | always have something to talk about |
| 06:22.52 | rioter | only comman thread is the music, and people into metal generally apreciate all types of music that isnt crap |
| 06:22.53 | cwisty | I dunno |
| 06:23.47 | cwisty | I enjoy my friends more who understand what I"m talking about than those who think it's all a bunch of handwaving |
| 06:23.51 | cwisty | that's not fun |
| 06:23.53 | lurgy | cwisty: i'm not so easily bored |
| 06:24.00 | cwisty | good |
| 06:24.08 | cwisty | hopefully you won't get bored with me |
| 06:24.25 | lurgy | nah |
| 06:24.29 | purple_cow | cwisty: in our field, usually the ones who understand also think it's handwaving, but it's interesting handwaving ;) |
| 06:24.30 | cwisty | guud |
| 06:24.37 | cwisty | hmmm |
| 06:24.38 | lurgy | you should see how easily entertained i am in opera rehearsals |
| 06:24.43 | cwisty | good call purple_cow |
| 06:24.45 | lurgy | it's nearly embarrassing |
| 06:24.51 | cwisty | hehe |
| 06:25.01 | lurgy | and it's like that in the rest of life too, so no risks there :P |
| 06:26.03 | purple_cow | hmm |
| 06:26.47 | lurgy | heh, speak of the devil |
| 06:27.00 | cwisty | haha |
| 06:27.05 | cwisty | ooo do share! |
| 06:27.09 | cwisty | (see you're way more interesting) |
| 06:27.26 | lurgy | well there's the classic one from last week |
| 06:27.37 | cwisty | ok . . . |
| 06:28.28 | purple_cow | how can you describe your intellectual bosom buddy as "the devil" ?? |
| 06:29.25 | lurgy | (22:26:54) llama: it's true |
| 06:29.25 | lurgy | (22:27:50) Tirzah: you are my intellectual bosom buddy |
| 06:29.25 | lurgy | (22:27:58) Tirzah: BECAUSE I SAID |
| 06:29.25 | lurgy | (22:28:35) llama: hurray |
| 06:29.25 | lurgy | (22:28:40) llama: i've never been a bosom buddy before |
| 06:29.26 | lurgy | (22:29:07) llama: actually i don't think i've even ever heard that term used anywhere outside a TV production of "Anne of Green Gables" |
| 06:29.45 | purple_cow | hehehe |
| 06:30.01 | cwisty | hahaha |
| 06:30.02 | cwisty | oh man |
| 06:30.03 | scanline | :) |
| 06:30.22 | hardwire | blah |
| 06:30.25 | rioter | hehe |
| 06:31.06 | scanline | uh oh |
| 06:31.19 | ChipX86 | yep, she heard all about porn showers |
| 06:31.22 | ChipX86 | she's entertained |
| 06:31.31 | scanline | ow |
| 06:31.33 | scanline | damnit ChipX86 |
| 06:31.33 | ChipX86 | Jamie: "Porn showers!" |
| 06:31.34 | hardwire | what the hell am I missing out on? |
| 06:31.37 | scanline | you made me stab myself with a capacitor |
| 06:31.43 | rioter | i took a knock to the face, and my lip swole abit, now my labret is rubbing on my gums, its really painful :( |
| 06:31.46 | ChipX86 | sorry, I do that |
| 06:31.50 | hardwire | scanline: thats not shocking.. |
| 06:31.57 | scanline | heh |
| 06:32.15 | rioter | hardwire corner, 5 mins |
| 06:32.27 | hardwire | rioter: I don't know what that means! |
| 06:32.34 | scanline | I think it was here to push reset buttons... dunno |
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| 06:32.50 | hardwire | file: ! |
| 06:32.53 | file | hi |
| 06:32.58 | hardwire | tell me more about the grandstreams |
| 06:33.01 | file | Pulver's party bored me |
| 06:33.06 | hardwire | were they that spectacular? |
| 06:33.08 | file | so I ran back to my hotel room |
| 06:33.12 | hardwire | Pulver Innovations? |
| 06:33.16 | hardwire | was Jeff there? |
| 06:33.17 | file | Jeff Pulver |
| 06:33.18 | file | yes |
| 06:33.19 | scanline | lurgy: quick, more talking about intereresting stuff before hardwire and file kill the channel |
| 06:33.24 | file | I also had breakfast with Pulver on Monday |
| 06:33.26 | hardwire | did you call his fwdnum and punch him in the eye? |
| 06:33.47 | file | that's how high up I go... |
| 06:33.53 | hardwire | yeh |
| 06:33.54 | hardwire | I guess. |
| 06:34.00 | hardwire | I had lunch with the coast guard today. |
| 06:34.03 | lurgy | heh, it seems tirzah is coming to the opera |
| 06:34.36 | hardwire | file: but really.. the grandstreams.. |
| 06:34.45 | hardwire | do tell |
| 06:35.00 | scanline | hrm |
| 06:35.07 | lurgy | and that's the end of that |
| 06:35.16 | scanline | slimspace really needs to stop saying stuff that's completely bogus in this paper: ) |
| 06:35.24 | scanline | PyMCK was developed with the intent of creating a generic control system, |
| 06:35.24 | scanline | capable of scaling up to the most powerful of hardware, or down to the smallest |
| 06:35.24 | scanline | of embedded devices." |
| 06:35.40 | file | hardwire: it's for a totally different market, so they didn't go for all cheap |
| 06:35.41 | lurgy | scanline: POWWEEEEEEEEEERFUL!!!!!!! |
| 06:37.38 | purple_cow | welp |
| 06:37.49 | purple_cow | as much as i love listening to lurgy talk about stuff |
| 06:37.54 | purple_cow | i need ice cream and bread products |
| 06:37.58 | lurgy | ooh products |
| 06:38.04 | scanline | purple_cow: for your atkins diet? |
| 06:38.09 | lurgy | hehe |
| 06:38.13 | purple_cow | yep |
| 06:38.42 | file | I'm just, not that awake |
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| 06:39.14 | scanline | hehe |
| 06:39.17 | file | oh go to hell I'm not in the mood for that |
| 06:39.19 | lurgy | ah yes, antiatkins.. from the modern remake of the wizard of oz |
| 06:39.26 | purple_cow | hehehe |
| 06:39.29 | scanline | rofl |
| 06:39.41 | lurgy | "Anti Atkins! Anti Atkins!" |
| 06:39.55 | lurgy | "There's no place like home.. there's no place like home.." |
| 06:41.13 | scanline | yay! |
| 06:41.16 | lurgy | eek! |
| 06:41.16 | lurgy | i mean |
| 06:41.17 | lurgy | yay! |
| 06:41.21 | cwisty | haha |
| 06:41.26 | cwisty | I'm helping out this weekend at school |
| 06:41.30 | cwisty | with 3 societies |
| 06:41.36 | cwisty | I"m trying to schedule it all |
| 06:41.39 | cwisty | yikes |
| 06:41.40 | lurgy | ew |
| 06:41.51 | lurgy | yeah, i'm going to 2 consecutive recitals saturday |
| 06:41.57 | lurgy | and turning pages at one of them |
| 06:42.04 | lurgy | which is a stressful and thankless job |
| 06:42.23 | purple_cow | enfos map? |
| 06:42.25 | scanline | though I doubt my machine will be much help |
| 06:42.30 | cwisty | oh yes |
| 06:42.33 | cwisty | shameless add |
| 06:42.36 | scanline | purple_cow: a neat WCIII map cwisty was telling me about |
| 06:42.44 | cwisty | http://www.colorado.edu/engineering/acm/LAN.html |
| 06:42.58 | cwisty | Jason and I like to play it |
| 06:42.59 | rioter | 9 months till i can come to your country |
| 06:43.24 | purple_cow | hey look, it's like a big list of games i don't know how to play |
| 06:43.34 | cwisty | hehe |
| 06:43.39 | lurgy | what are the odds ^_^ |
| 06:43.40 | cwisty | two of them are 2 minute learners |
| 06:43.47 | lurgy | 'bout the same odds as for me |
| 06:43.47 | cwisty | for that specific reason |
| 06:43.52 | cwisty | bomberman and souldat |
| 06:43.57 | cwisty | both off the wall little party games |
| 06:43.59 | lurgy | yay bomberman |
| 06:44.00 | cwisty | 2 seconds to lear |
| 06:44.02 | cwisty | a lot of fun |
| 06:44.07 | cwisty | little skill involved |
| 06:44.08 | scanline | cwisty: ooh.. I can bring a computer. it just doesn't have windows, or a hard disk that's really capable of holding windows ;) |
| 06:44.11 | rioter | alcohol? |
| 06:44.14 | scanline | I guess I can try vmware |
| 06:44.19 | cwisty | nope |
| 06:44.21 | cwisty | it's on campus |
| 06:44.23 | scanline | mmm |
| 06:44.27 | scanline | er |
| 06:44.29 | rioter | my campus has a bar haha |
| 06:44.38 | purple_cow | heh |
| 06:44.51 | lurgy | wow that's scary |
| 06:45.04 | rioter | a bar on campus? |
| 06:45.08 | lurgy | except for during opera rehearsals, i've almost completely cut computer/video gaming out of my life |
| 06:45.28 | rioter | there hasnt been anything released thats worth playing |
| 06:45.39 | cwisty | purple_cow |
| 06:45.41 | purple_cow | ok |
| 06:45.42 | hardwire | file: I know its for a business market |
| 06:45.43 | hardwire | but.. |
| 06:45.44 | cwisty | if you have ideas for games I"m all ears |
| 06:45.45 | hardwire | how was it |
| 06:45.53 | purple_cow | time for me to go brave the wilds of safeway |
| 06:45.54 | cwisty | we can really play whatever |
| 06:45.54 | lurgy | rioter: maybe, but i don't even know.. and i haven't played the old games either |
| 06:45.58 | lurgy | yay wilds |
| 06:46.02 | cwisty | this is jus tthe list the gamers gave me |
| 06:46.04 | hardwire | if I ship you some can you get precense working? |
| 06:46.10 | lurgy | cwisty: ooh ideas for games |
| 06:46.14 | lurgy | cwisty: i'm good at crackful ideas |
| 06:46.16 | lurgy | cwisty: hmm |
| 06:46.21 | cwisty | I"m all ears |
| 06:46.29 | lurgy | nope, no crackful ideas |
| 06:46.47 | lurgy | ooh |
| 06:46.48 | lurgy | go fish! |
| 06:47.53 | cwisty | haha |
| 06:48.03 | lurgy | hehe |
| 06:48.15 | purple_cow | ok, i'm really going now |
| 06:48.38 | hardwire | yay |
| 06:48.39 | hardwire | pizza |
| 06:48.41 | hardwire | YAY |
| 06:48.52 | hardwire | file: I am setting up my SPA-3000 at home tonight |
| 06:48.56 | hardwire | our answering machine fails. |
| 06:49.06 | hardwire | heh |
| 06:49.17 | hardwire | and I am gonna fuck with zapateller |
| 06:49.24 | hardwire | and an auto attendant |
| 06:49.26 | hardwire | named Teresa |
| 06:50.14 | scanline | bleh. I need a way to detect VoIP crap and filter it out |
| 06:50.41 | file | hardwire: ah ic |
| 06:50.52 | hardwire | scanline: sorry. |
| 06:52.48 | cwisty | so Dan |
| 06:53.14 | cwisty | lurgy lurgy . . . |
| 06:53.15 | hardwire | file: anywhere you feel like chatting on a day to day basis about voip crap? |
| 06:53.22 | hardwire | other than #asterisk :) |
| 06:53.42 | scanline | lurgy lurgy! |
| 06:54.00 | cwisty | awe I lost my story time friend! |
| 06:54.05 | scanline | noooooooooooo |
| 06:54.16 | scanline | the earth is doomed! doooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.... |
| 06:54.23 | cwisty | haha |
| 06:56.06 | lurgy | cwisty! |
| 06:56.13 | cwisty | there he is! |
| 06:56.13 | lurgy | cwisty: do tell |
| 06:56.13 | scanline | yay! |
| 06:56.17 | lurgy | theeeeeeeeeere he is! |
| 06:56.47 | cwisty | I missed you!!! |
| 06:57.11 | cwisty | ah |
| 06:57.16 | cwisty | that's OK and allowed |
| 06:57.20 | cwisty | noooo |
| 06:57.22 | cwisty | no shriveling |
| 06:57.35 | lurgy | yay for eating |
| 06:57.38 | lurgy | but go on |
| 06:57.39 | lurgy | stories! |
| 06:57.48 | cwisty | I thought you were telling me a story? |
| 06:58.09 | scanline | I thought it was cwisty's turn |
| 06:58.17 | cwisty | damnit scanline |
| 06:58.19 | cwisty | OK OK |
| 06:58.25 | cwisty | what was I telling a story about |
| 06:58.27 | scanline | cwisty: hey, you owe me a few too ;) |
| 06:58.30 | cwisty | and don't say porn showers |
| 06:58.33 | cwisty | I do not |
| 06:59.44 | lurgy | cwisty: studly male astronomers, iirc? |
| 06:59.48 | cwisty | damnit |
| 07:00.13 | cwisty | I need more of a seed than that for a story |
| 07:00.18 | cwisty | nothing is coming to mind |
| 07:00.31 | lurgy | badgers? |
| 07:00.35 | scanline | tuna? |
| 07:00.43 | nullpuppy | polka |
| 07:00.52 | lurgy | zombies |
| 07:01.05 | cwisty | haha |
| 07:01.07 | lurgy | planetaria |
| 07:01.23 | cwisty | there once was a tuna eating badger that liked to polka with zombies |
| 07:01.35 | ChipX86 | wow, 2 hours 10 mins. Our phone conversations are long now |
| 07:01.55 | file | ChipX86: where are you? |
| 07:01.57 | ChipX86 | home |
| 07:02.06 | ChipX86 | about to start cleaning this place up |
| 07:02.07 | file | home home? |
| 07:02.13 | lurgy | cwisty: yay |
| 07:02.14 | nullpuppy | @familyguy |
| 07:02.14 | kbot | nullpuppy: <Peter> Hey, Lois, look! The two symbols of the Republican party: an elephant and a big fat white guy who's threatened by change. |
| 07:02.16 | ChipX86 | palo alto home |
| 07:02.18 | file | ah |
| 07:02.34 | lurgy | cwisty: did any of these organisms interact with male astronomers at all? |
| 07:02.38 | ChipX86 | where are you |
| 07:02.39 | ChipX86 | ? |
| 07:02.47 | file | Hyatt in San Jose |
| 07:02.50 | ChipX86 | ah, cool. |
| 07:02.52 | cwisty | haha |
| 07:02.55 | ChipX86 | man, Jamie's coming Friday :D |
| 07:02.57 | cwisty | this is funny |
| 07:03.08 | ChipX86 | and we're actually going to watch some yuri and a show about lesbians |
| 07:03.23 | ChipX86 | she kind of curious |
| 07:03.53 | lurgy | heh |
| 07:04.09 | ChipX86 | of course, she wants me to watch yaoi now |
| 07:04.16 | lurgy | of course |
| 07:07.34 | nullpuppy | "would you like a piece of candy?" "i smell death on you" |
| 07:12.04 | scanline | hmm.. need more water |
| 07:12.06 | lurgy | scanline: hmm? |
| 07:12.10 | nullpuppy | peter: anyone got a quarter? bill gates: what's a quarter? |
| 07:12.16 | scanline | lurgy: we invited you to a channel |
| 07:12.48 | cwisty | porn showers Dan |
| 07:13.06 | ChipX86 | Jamie and I were thinking up new words |
| 07:13.15 | ChipX86 | we came up with intellectual orgasm |
| 07:13.20 | lurgy | heh |
| 07:13.25 | cwisty | haha |
| 07:13.38 | scanline | I want one of those |
| 07:13.48 | cwisty | hahaha |
| 07:13.51 | ChipX86 | me too |
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| 07:19.37 | ChipX86 | "Hurray, I'm useful, I'm having a wonderful time!" |
| 07:20.29 | file | Microsoft paid for Pulver's party... |
| 07:20.35 | file | free alcohol, food, regular stuff |
| 07:20.48 | kergoth | bleh |
| 07:25.16 | CIA-3 | galago: 03chipx86 * r1529 10web/htdocs/docs/guides/versioning.php: Fix a missing </a>. |
| 07:30.09 | purple_cow | what an amazingly beautiful night |
| 07:30.32 | purple_cow | the outdoor therm is not wrong :) |
| 07:31.12 | CIA-3 | galago: 03chipx86 * r1530 10libgalago/NEWS: Update the version in NEWS. |
| 07:31.20 | CIA-3 | galago: 03chipx86 * r1531 10libgalago-gtk/NEWS: Update the version in NEWS. |
| 07:31.31 | CIA-3 | galago: 03chipx86 * r1532 10galago-daemon/NEWS: Add a NEWS file. |
| 07:34.37 | lurgy | :( |
| 07:34.47 | purple_cow | so he's talking about refactoring, right |
| 07:34.56 | scanline | haha |
| 07:35.03 | purple_cow | and he has about 5 pages of slides talking about how refactoring is a good thing |
| 07:35.11 | purple_cow | then a big long list of smells |
| 07:35.27 | purple_cow | followed by a small handful of basic refactors like "extract method" |
| 07:41.40 | lurgy | hehe, smells |
| 07:46.03 | ChipX86 | (23:39:57) Rachael Hestilow: your egg looks like it'd be good to roll over |
| 07:46.07 | ChipX86 | *somebody* got a new game |
| 07:46.16 | purple_cow | :) |
| 07:46.24 | ChipX86 | she kept saying she wouldn't get it |
| 07:47.51 | purple_cow | great game |
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| 07:48.25 | ChipX86 | it's a numist! |
| 07:48.39 | ChipX86 | numist_: is there any chance that your real name is Simon? |
| 07:54.05 | darth_mall | hrm... I don't think I'm going to make it to OOP tomorrow |
| 07:54.29 | scanline | join the club |
| 07:54.31 | ChipX86 | me neither |
| 07:54.41 | cwisty | yeah me neither |
| 07:54.57 | cwisty | took that years ago, sucked then prolly still sucks now |
| 07:55.06 | cwisty | although sounds like much less these days |
| 07:55.55 | scanline | a scary thought... |
| 07:56.28 | cwisty | believe it or not |
| 07:56.33 | cwisty | at least you have professors teaching it |
| 07:56.35 | cwisty | and it's not in Java |
| 07:56.54 | darth_mall | erm... |
| 07:56.58 | darth_mall | Anderson is pretty married to Java |
| 07:57.12 | cwisty | but are you writing code bi weekly in Java? |
| 07:57.16 | purple_cow | cwisty: all of the examples he gives are in java |
| 07:57.17 | darth_mall | we get to hear things like, "Java has X... and probably some other OO languages have something like this too..." |
| 07:57.22 | purple_cow | we're not actually writing code |
| 07:57.27 | darth_mall | code is for chumps |
| 07:57.31 | cwisty | and do you have massive programming assignments in it ? |
| 07:57.34 | darth_mall | UML is where the real cool kids do their work |
| 07:57.35 | cwisty | sure sure |
| 07:57.43 | cwisty | Java makes good examples for this stuff |
| 07:57.44 | purple_cow | darth_mall: yep |
| 07:57.44 | ChipX86 | yep |
| 07:57.50 | cwisty | in theory that's fine |
| 07:57.55 | darth_mall | why actually make a program when you can think about making a program? |
| 07:57.56 | purple_cow | cwisty: there are better language choices for lots of his examples :P |
| 07:57.57 | ChipX86 | I don't even write code. Every project is fully in UML, and I just auto-generate the code |
| 07:58.11 | cwisty | it's just in practise writing massive Java assignments with no Java experience is unreasonable |
| 07:58.18 | cwisty | purple_cow |
| 07:58.21 | cwisty | I know that's true |
| 07:58.33 | purple_cow | it's very hard to understand a code example he's showing in class when he has 6 files, each with 3 lines of code |
| 07:59.17 | darth_mall | I was pondering what life would be like if our flight software were in Java |
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| 07:59.42 | darth_mall | and it suddenly occured to me how hideous it would be to have all of those classes in separate files |
| 08:00.39 | darth_mall | s/suddenly// |
| 08:03.44 | darth_mall | stupid test tomorrow... *grumble grumble* |
| 08:05.56 | darth_mall | where'd everyone go? |
| 08:11.17 | darth_mall | pish posh! |
| 08:12.30 | purple_cow | mmm, fish & chips |
| 08:12.59 | darth_mall | fish & chips and good beer |
| 08:13.02 | darth_mall | best thing ever |
| 08:13.25 | darth_mall | plus... they had the Java Porter on tap, which always makes me happy |
| 08:14.12 | darth_mall | the only thing I love as much as fish & chips and beer is sushi and sake/awamori |
| 08:14.21 | darth_mall | preferably awamori |
| 08:22.57 | darth_mall | roflmao ---> http://img.penny-arcade.com/2005/20050309l.jpg |
| 08:23.22 | rioter | haha |
| 08:23.29 | purple_cow | haha |
| 08:24.59 | darth_mall | welp... i'm done |
| 08:25.00 | darth_mall | bed time |
| 08:25.07 | darth_mall | don't expect me to be up in time for OOP tomorrow |
| 08:26.02 | purple_cow | slimspace|away is going to be so lonely |
| 08:33.26 | purple_cow | shower time, i think |
| 09:00.42 | cwisty | tacobeam needs a new topic, but I"m not creative enough to come up with it |
| 09:01.17 | *** topic/#tacobeam by purple_cow -> Everybody loves liquid boron |
| 09:01.26 | purple_cow | when in doubt, quote futurama |
| 09:03.29 | purple_cow | err, i misquoted there |
| 09:03.37 | *** topic/#tacobeam by purple_cow -> Everybody loves molten boron |
| 09:03.55 | cwisty | hot |
| 09:04.01 | scanline | :) |
| 09:04.20 | purple_cow | hmm |
| 09:04.40 | scanline | BORING |
| 09:04.42 | purple_cow | while watching something i've not watched in far too long |
| 09:04.56 | cwisty | wut? |
| 09:05.30 | scanline | I don't think he's going to tell us |
| 09:05.41 | ChipX86 | http://www.deviantart.com/view/15948077/ |
| 09:05.43 | cwisty | I guess not |
| 09:05.45 | scanline | but with my powerful administrator tools I shall find out... |
| 09:05.50 | purple_cow | heh |
| 09:06.37 | scanline | hmm, these need timestamps |
| 09:06.38 | scanline | Noir? |
| 09:06.57 | purple_cow | nope |
| 09:07.02 | ChipX86 | hmm? What about Noir? |
| 09:07.28 | scanline | ChipX86: it's one of about 100 things that purple_cow may be watching, according to spreadfs's open files list |
| 09:07.32 | scanline | :P |
| 09:07.36 | purple_cow | but that is something i haven't watched in far too long |
| 09:07.36 | ChipX86 | I'm downloading it |
| 09:07.45 | scanline | ahh |
| 09:07.51 | scanline | that would be why it's in the open files list then |
| 09:07.53 | ChipX86 | Jamie wants to watch some episodes when she's here, and my CDs of it are all screwy |
| 09:07.58 | ChipX86 | should I cancel? |
| 09:08.02 | scanline | no |
| 09:08.09 | scanline | lessee.. the other choices are... |
| 09:08.14 | scanline | /mnt/navi/04/media/video/movies/waking_life.avi |
| 09:08.20 | scanline | /mnt/navi/04/media/video/movies/tron.avi |
| 09:08.38 | scanline | hmm.. some doctor who episodes and stuff |
| 09:08.54 | cwisty | goodnight all |
| 09:09.00 | purple_cow | doctor who was earlier |
| 09:09.02 | purple_cow | 'night cwisty |
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| 09:17.49 | scanline | huh |
| 09:17.53 | scanline | http://navi.cx/images/people/micah/img_1302.jpg |
| 09:17.58 | scanline | somehow that looks really comfortable right now |
| 09:17.59 | scanline | I should sleep |
| 09:18.07 | purple_cow | heh |
| 09:19.39 | scanline | oh |
| 09:19.40 | scanline | firefly |
| 09:19.53 | scanline | somehow I didn't think of that because there were so many random episodes in the fd cache |
| 09:20.01 | scanline | heh |
| 09:20.28 | scanline | it has 14 firefly episodes open right now |
| 09:20.35 | scanline | silly freevo |
| 09:20.35 | purple_cow | weird |
| 09:20.48 | scanline | well, that doesn't mean freevo has them all open |
| 09:21.02 | scanline | just that they've been opened recently enough to still be in the cache |
| 09:21.09 | scanline | so spreadfs itself still has them open |
| 09:21.30 | purple_cow | probably looked at the headers to find lengths |
| 09:21.38 | scanline | ah, yeah |
| 09:21.52 | scanline | heh. lots of sockets open too |
| 09:22.32 | scanline | we need a web page that says "After stirring navi, the following files floated to the top:" and has a list of these |
| 09:23.35 | purple_cow | heh |
| 09:23.54 | scanline | http://navi.cx/images/people/party/tn/img_1063.jpg.html |
| 09:24.00 | scanline | hehe. been too long since I've looked at these |
| 09:25.06 | scanline | proof of the scarf's long lasting effects! |
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| 09:27.46 | ChipX86 | http://www.overstock.com/cgi-bin/d2.cgi?PAGE=PROFRAME&PROD_ID=1046764 |
| 09:29.54 | rioter | that kendra girl looks really scary with that knife and look |
| 09:32.11 | scanline | rioter: that's kind of the point |
| 09:32.19 | ChipX86 | or is it? |
| 09:32.27 | scanline | aaaaaaaanyway |
| 09:32.28 | scanline | time for sleep |
| 09:32.44 | ChipX86 | hmmm sleep.. that sounds good. |
| 09:36.08 | ChipX86 | $1800 for silverware. Holy crap. |
| 09:36.26 | ChipX86 | and that's the overstock.com discount price |
| 09:41.02 | purple_cow | yay, 2/5 of the scenarios have diagrams |
| 09:47.55 | purple_cow | bedtime for me too |
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| 16:12.07 | lurgy | hehe |
| 16:12.10 | lurgy | http://www.olene.net/linux.html |
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| 17:07.00 | darth_mall | uhoh... lurgy is up |
| 17:14.36 | slimspace | good lord...Anderson is such an ass |
| 17:14.45 | slimspace | darth_mall: moo? |
| 17:15.23 | file | slimspace: you're awake too? that's utter blasphemy |
| 17:16.06 | kergoth | bleh |
| 17:16.24 | slimspace | file: yeah, I've been up since 7:00am |
| 17:17.16 | darth_mall | hey slimspace |
| 17:17.42 | file | and kergoth? the entire world is collapsing! |
| 17:18.14 | kergoth | heh, i'm supposed to be at work 1.25 hours ago |
| 17:18.18 | kergoth | ah well |
| 17:18.30 | darth_mall | oops |
| 17:19.05 | slimspace | darth_mall: you're missing a great lecture |
| 17:19.07 | kergoth | well, boss isnt at work this week, and even he normally doesnt care all that much anyway |
| 17:19.10 | kergoth | heh |
| 17:19.21 | slimspace | Anderson's talking about smelly code |
| 17:19.44 | darth_mall | smelly code... |
| 17:19.46 | file | what does it smell of? |
| 17:21.09 | slimspace | file: Not sure. He's talking about how you should refactor your code if you find something that makes you go "eww..." |
| 17:21.29 | darth_mall | lol |
| 17:21.39 | file | refactor! I love that word |
| 17:21.44 | darth_mall | I guess that's kinda how I do it sometimes |
| 17:21.56 | scanline | ugh |
| 17:21.58 | slimspace | yeah, me too, but it's still funny watching him lecture on it |
| 17:22.07 | scanline | I've gotten so many bug reports for that stupid cache problem CIA's been having |
| 17:23.13 | slimspace | I love how all these professors lecture on how to be good programmers, but they never give you the chance to practice it. |
| 17:23.26 | darth_mall | scanline: you should put something up on CIA's website saying, "NEW CACHEING FEATURE!!! Find Out More..." |
| 17:23.32 | darth_mall | where Find Out More... is a link |
| 17:24.51 | slimspace | so many buzzwords... |
| 17:25.03 | darth_mall | well, that's what programming is really about |
| 17:25.09 | darth_mall | diagrams and buzzwords |
| 17:25.10 | slimspace | Did you know lazy classes are classes that no longer "pay their way"? |
| 17:25.14 | scanline | lurgy: haha |
| 17:25.14 | darth_mall | rofl |
| 17:27.14 | darth_mall | hehe... teh eNd |
| 17:27.54 | kergoth | every single day i care about my job less. i need to do something fast |
| 17:28.12 | slimspace | kergoth: what is it you do again? |
| 17:28.14 | darth_mall | you could drive a race car, that's fast |
| 17:28.26 | file | very fast |
| 17:28.29 | darth_mall | slimspace: he clubs baby seals for oil companies |
| 17:28.38 | slimspace | ouch |
| 17:28.45 | darth_mall | it's ok |
| 17:28.48 | file | http://host-a.starnetworks.us/Members/kpfleming/spring_von/photoalbum_view |
| 17:28.49 | darth_mall | it's a foam rubber club |
| 17:28.58 | slimspace | oh, ok |
| 17:28.59 | darth_mall | and the baby seals are actually navy seals |
| 17:29.05 | slimspace | hehe |
| 17:29.05 | kergoth | slimspace: embedded linux kernel driver development for ti |
| 17:29.15 | slimspace | ugh |
| 17:29.37 | kergoth | drivers are the absolute worst, most boring part of the kernel. churning out the same shit day after day |
| 17:29.44 | darth_mall | and pants |
| 17:29.44 | kergoth | "oh look, another framebuffer/lcd driver.. joy.." |
| 17:29.59 | darth_mall | digital pants, activate! |
| 17:30.10 | slimspace | darth_mall: go go gadget PANTS! |
| 17:30.51 | darth_mall | dammit, I have to go take a test now =\ |
| 17:31.02 | slimspace | OS? |
| 17:31.05 | scanline | good luck darth_mall! |
| 17:31.16 | kergoth | boo test |
| 17:31.30 | darth_mall | slimspace: yeah |
| 17:31.35 | darth_mall | scanline: thanks |
| 17:31.38 | slimspace | ah, fun...good luck |
| 17:31.38 | darth_mall | kergoth: yep |
| 17:31.53 | slimspace | oh yay, Anderson is reading us a story from a book! |
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| 17:32.12 | darth_mall | slimspace: is it "Oh The Places You'll Go"? |
| 17:32.20 | slimspace | hehe, sounds a bit like it |
| 17:32.24 | darth_mall | cuz that's a good one |
| 17:32.29 | slimspace | yup |
| 17:32.39 | darth_mall | I had a band director read that once to our band class |
| 17:32.45 | darth_mall | it might have been jazz band, I forget |
| 17:32.45 | slimspace | really? |
| 17:33.01 | scanline | hmm |
| 17:33.03 | slimspace | my band director used to make up his own stories. |
| 17:33.32 | slimspace | scanline: we should do something about those papers maybe today |
| 17:34.15 | scanline | slimspace: I started poking around a bit last night. As long as we let each other know what we're doing, we should be alright |
| 17:34.29 | slimspace | yeah. I assumed you started on the commercial busses paper? |
| 17:34.37 | darth_mall | scanline: there's some coffee left, you should drink it |
| 17:35.02 | scanline | slimspace: I reformatted that one a bit, but then I started poking around in the PyMCK paper's introduction. haven't made any changes left, but I have plans to now |
| 17:35.15 | slimspace | ah, ok |
| 17:35.25 | darth_mall | bye kids, bbl |
| 17:35.31 | slimspace | later darth_mall |
| 17:36.08 | scanline | IMHO the introduction is too long. It would be easier to follow if we split it up into kind of a glitzy overview (condensed version of what you have) then maybe the components it's based on, its scope, and its overall architecture (hardware abstraction layer, three models of the satellite, etc) |
| 17:36.20 | scanline | ok, just let me know what you're up to on IRC |
| 17:36.22 | scanline | or via CIA |
| 17:36.29 | slimspace | scanline: sounds good |
| 17:36.44 | scanline | I should get my other homework out of the way first though.. need to do a little CAPA and a little student evaluation thingydoo for our senior project |
| 17:36.48 | slimspace | I was thinking maybe we should talk Jen into letting us give her the rough drafts on Monday so we have the weekend |
| 17:37.06 | scanline | that would help maybe |
| 17:37.22 | scanline | yeah, so that would help a lot ;) |
| 17:37.38 | slimspace | yup. I'll talk to her. Got plans to come in later today? |
| 17:38.29 | slimspace | so are you two getting together or something? |
| 17:38.43 | scanline | something like that |
| 17:38.53 | scanline | hard to say |
| 17:39.10 | slimspace | you're cute together, I have to say |
| 17:39.36 | scanline | :) |
| 17:40.35 | scanline | bleh.. spent lots of time yesterday on my bike that I should have spent on my paper |
| 17:40.40 | scanline | but at least that was fun |
| 17:41.00 | slimspace | ^^ |
| 17:41.26 | scanline | I ended up in broomfield, then realized I thought I had this peer evaluation that should have been turned in earlier that day |
| 17:41.34 | scanline | so I got on a bus real quick |
| 17:41.45 | scanline | turns out I wasn't really paying attention, and I ended up in Denver |
| 17:41.48 | scanline | too the express back... |
| 17:41.53 | slimspace | hehe, wow |
| 17:42.03 | scanline | turns out the evaluations are due Friday now :P |
| 17:42.23 | slimspace | nice |
| 17:43.00 | scanline | if I'd known that, I would have dropped by Christy's place to say hi. I was really closeby |
| 17:43.08 | scanline | at least now I know an alright bike route there |
| 17:43.22 | scanline | after you optimize out all the redundant crud that caused it to be 20 miles |
| 17:43.29 | slimspace | hehe |
| 17:43.54 | slimspace | yay, class is over |
| 17:44.02 | scanline | ttyl |
| 17:48.18 | scanline | hello, coffee |
| 17:48.24 | scanline | I have not drank thee for some time now... |
| 17:53.51 | scanline | hmm |
| 17:54.01 | scanline | I wonder if CIA could still survive the load if I turned off mod_disk_cache |
| 17:54.24 | scanline | only one way to find out... |
| 18:01.38 | scanline | ow, the load... |
| 18:01.40 | *** join/#tacobeam cwisty (~default@humn157-126-dhcp.colorado.edu) |
| 18:01.53 | scanline | this might still be manageable, but it's definitely slower :( |
| 18:02.14 | cwisty | hihi |
| 18:04.52 | cwisty | scanline: whatcha up to? |
| 18:05.21 | ChipX86 | god damn IT department. They can't get a single network to work correctly at all |
| 18:05.34 | numist | nope, ChipX86, name is scott |
| 18:05.38 | scanline | well, CIA's had this bug for a while where sometimes mod_disk_cache cuts off the beginning of a file |
| 18:05.57 | scanline | cwisty: I've been ignoring it for a while, but there have been so many people complaining about it now that I'm trying to fix it |
| 18:06.06 | scanline | where by "fixing" I'm just disabling that cache temporarily |
| 18:06.29 | scanline | so I think it's going to make the whole thing a lot slower, but at least it will remove this bug for now |
| 18:06.29 | scanline | I don't really have time to fix it properly |
| 18:06.29 | cwisty | fun |
| 18:06.32 | scanline | yeah |
| 18:06.58 | scanline | I've had lots of people that get only the last couple kilobytes of a page, it doesn't look anything like it's supposed to, then they email me about xhtml validation errors! |
| 18:09.49 | scanline | hmm |
| 18:10.00 | scanline | die! |
| 18:10.12 | scanline | I hate web stuff... |
| 18:10.40 | cwisty | haha |
| 18:10.58 | scanline | CIA is the only web project I have, and it started almost by accident |
| 18:11.05 | scanline | I don't even really have a personal web site |
| 18:11.37 | scanline | ohh... that's silly |
| 18:11.41 | cwisty | well get on it! |
| 18:11.50 | scanline | I had the VirtualHost dealybob for CIA in here in two places |
| 18:11.56 | scanline | and one still had the cache set up |
| 18:12.02 | scanline | cwisty: yeah, I've been meaning to for ages |
| 18:12.12 | scanline | got oodles of cool projects that need at least a brief mention on a web site |
| 18:12.24 | scanline | though I guess we do have a photo album on navi that's kinda the closest thing I have to a personal site |
| 18:12.34 | scanline | http://navi.cx/images/people/ |
| 18:13.07 | scanline | I think the two best pictures in there are this one of kendra: |
| 18:13.08 | scanline | http://navi.cx/images/people/party/tn/img_1063.jpg.html |
| 18:13.26 | scanline | and the sock-smiting photo annotated by dan, if I can find it: |
| 18:13.34 | scanline | http://navi.cx/images/people/party/tn/img_0960.jpg.html |
| 18:13.36 | scanline | yep, that's the one |
| 18:13.50 | scanline | "I sommon ye, gods, taketh mine socke and smite thysse heathynne villadjer!" |
| 18:15.58 | scanline | hah, I almost forgot about all these where jen, evan, and I were having way too much fun with a cardboard tube at spacegrant |
| 18:16.45 | scanline | yay, cache disabled... |
| 18:16.49 | scanline | now I watch the server slow to a crawl |
| 18:17.08 | numist | yay |
| 18:17.23 | scanline | although now I'm curious whether it might have been breaking because the vhost was in my apache config twice |
| 18:17.27 | scanline | though that seems kind of unlikely |
| 18:18.19 | scanline | hmm |
| 18:18.25 | scanline | without the cache it's getting about 1 hit per second |
| 18:19.59 | CIA-3 | navi-misc: 03micah * r7267 10cia/doc/BUGS: Remove a few bugs that have been fixed: the temporary nick issue, and the large DOM memory leak |
| 18:22.52 | scanline | "331 requests have been processed since the server was loaded |
| 18:22.52 | scanline | The server has been up for 6.25 minutes" |
| 18:22.56 | kergoth | bleh |
| 18:22.56 | scanline | "Load average: 0.91 0.76 1.0" |
| 18:22.59 | scanline | not bad... |
| 18:24.03 | scanline | mwahaha |
| 18:24.13 | scanline | the server's internal caches have a 100% hit ratio so far |
| 18:24.18 | scanline | yay, it's slimspace |
| 18:24.34 | scanline | slimspace: when were you going to talk to jen? I'm planning on going to campus soon |
| 18:24.47 | slimspace | as sonn as she gets out of her meeting |
| 18:24.57 | scanline | ok |
| 18:25.09 | scanline | I'll probably see you in spacegrant as soon as I finish my coffee, head to campus, and grab my CAPA |
| 18:25.17 | slimspace | sounds good |
| 18:30.10 | ChipX86 | hey TD |
| 18:30.54 | TD | heya ChipX86 |
| 18:30.56 | TD | word up |
| 18:30.58 | TD | i need to write a shell script to stop my ssh sessions timing out |
| 18:31.03 | ChipX86 | yeah same |
| 18:31.21 | ChipX86 | and to stop me from talking to over-ambitious people who think all ideas should be public |
| 18:31.30 | TD | lol |
| 18:31.36 | TD | you mean the #libgaim chappies right? |
| 18:31.39 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 18:31.48 | TD | so it went badly then |
| 18:31.53 | ChipX86 | not badly.. |
| 18:32.03 | ChipX86 | but they don't get that I don't want to discuss details of libim yet |
| 18:32.09 | ChipX86 | and that I don't want a team of people |
| 18:34.17 | TD | hmmm |
| 18:34.28 | TD | for some reason the top bar in my SEG website is 2px offset in firefox but not mozilla |
| 18:34.29 | TD | <sigh> |
| 18:34.30 | numist | ChipX86: yeah, Im not a Simon |
| 18:34.34 | ChipX86 | numist: ok |
| 18:34.40 | numist | :) |
| 18:34.45 | ChipX86 | numist == tsimun |
| 18:34.59 | TD | tsi-mun |
| 18:35.01 | numist | aha no kidding, I never thought of that |
| 18:35.03 | TD | sounds like an ancient egyptian god |
| 18:35.11 | numist | nah, Im ttocs |
| 18:35.16 | TD | FEAR THE ALMIGHTY POWER OF THE ANCIENT TSI-MUN |
| 18:35.21 | TD | THE MUMMIES WILL GET YOU! |
| 18:35.26 | numist | hehe |
| 18:35.36 | ChipX86 | yay mummies! |
| 18:35.42 | ChipX86 | and I hate exchange |
| 18:35.46 | kergoth | hrm |
| 18:35.52 | TD | exchange the server? |
| 18:35.54 | ChipX86 | yes |
| 18:36.06 | TD | god, welcome to corporate IT. hopefully you won't enjoy your stay |
| 18:36.15 | TD | cos if you did, you might one day become a boring IT admin! bwahah |
| 18:38.51 | ChipX86 | also, vino has some serious issues |
| 18:39.32 | TD | vino the vnc client? |
| 18:39.38 | TD | or vino my hacked up wine shell script wrapper |
| 18:41.06 | ChipX86 | vnc server |
| 18:41.11 | ChipX86 | it has a repeating characters problem |
| 18:41.18 | ChipX86 | which makes it unusable if the network is at all laggy |
| 18:43.17 | numist | damn |
| 18:44.02 | TD | suck |
| 18:44.13 | ChipX86 | the network right now at the new building is flaky at best |
| 18:44.21 | TD | oh that sucks |
| 18:44.24 | TD | teething problems tho |
| 18:44.27 | ChipX86 | yeah |
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| 18:58.28 | *** join/#tacobeam pagefault (~pagefault@66.199.241.90) |
| 19:02.01 | scanline | hmm |
| 19:02.07 | scanline | I should set up mailnotify on my lappy too |
| 19:02.15 | scanline | yay for having IMAP+SSL on navi |
| 19:02.21 | scanline | I don't take advantage of that nearly enough |
| 19:02.45 | kergoth | hmm, anyone tried the new gpg-agent in recent gnupg versions? |
| 19:03.35 | scanline | oh |
| 19:03.42 | scanline | it is in gentoo, yay.. under the name mail-notification |
| 19:09.43 | *** part/#tacobeam cwisty (~default@humn157-126-dhcp.colorado.edu) |
| 19:10.51 | scanline | yow |
| 19:11.06 | scanline | doug didn't fare well at all |
| 19:11.20 | TD | scanline: it's cool but why is the cert made out to micah dowty and not navi.cx? |
| 19:11.26 | kergoth | mm, iced chai |
| 19:11.32 | TD | mozilla farts in my general direction whenever i connect from uni because of that ;) |
| 19:11.47 | scanline | TD: because I didn't understand that field when I made the cert :P |
| 19:11.50 | TD | hehe |
| 19:11.52 | TD | +1 Honest |
| 19:12.09 | scanline | the one I did on CIA is correct, I just hadn't even noticed the one on navi is wrong in ages |
| 19:12.21 | scanline | for CIA I actually got one from cacert |
| 19:12.30 | TD | oooh |
| 19:12.35 | TD | how much was it? and how hard? |
| 19:13.02 | scanline | free, and easy to get |
| 19:13.10 | TD | i thought you had to prove identity and such |
| 19:13.12 | scanline | they're a free CA that's trying to get widespread acceptance |
| 19:13.14 | TD | i guess not :) |
| 19:13.16 | TD | oh, heh |
| 19:13.17 | scanline | well |
| 19:13.21 | scanline | they have different levels of certs |
| 19:13.40 | scanline | for the one I got you only have to prove domain ownership by answering mail to root@your.domain or something similar |
| 19:13.57 | scanline | they have other more rigorous ones, but that's all I needed |
| 19:14.20 | scanline | they only actually put information on the cert that they can verify |
| 19:14.31 | scanline | so on mine, it only really has my email address on it since that's all they verified |
| 19:14.45 | TD | ah ok |
| 19:15.24 | scanline | I think they have some procedure involving lots of faxing and signatures to verify the other info |
| 19:15.35 | scanline | but it's all free, which is quite cool |
| 19:16.10 | nullpuppy | hmm... anyone know of any good dual-head backgrounds? (or gdm themes for that matter...) |
| 19:16.22 | scanline | nullpuppy: fyre's good at making them ;) |
| 19:16.27 | nullpuppy | hehe |
| 19:17.18 | ChipX86 | one more day :D |
| 19:17.27 | scanline | yay ChipX86 |
| 19:17.36 | ChipX86 | I'm so looking forward to it |
| 19:17.39 | scanline | ChipX86 is a stud muffing machine! |
| 19:17.42 | scanline | er, muffin |
| 19:17.44 | ChipX86 | nope! |
| 19:17.54 | scanline | nope? |
| 19:17.59 | ChipX86 | and it should be interesting once we get back to Chico... |
| 19:18.07 | scanline | hmm |
| 19:18.10 | scanline | running low on panel space |
| 19:18.24 | TD | ChipX86: how do i validate my passport? |
| 19:18.32 | kergoth | bleh |
| 19:18.34 | TD | i thought i had set my friendly name on this new MSN account but it's saying i haven't, and i can't change it |
| 19:18.53 | pagefault | hehe |
| 19:18.54 | ChipX86 | TD: I don't recall |
| 19:19.00 | pagefault | speaking of passport I have to phone my ISP when I get home |
| 19:19.11 | pagefault | they converted my e-mail to the 'better' hotmail platformk |
| 19:19.14 | pagefault | now I can't get in |
| 19:19.37 | TD | haha |
| 19:21.23 | scanline | what was that ssh command line option to force it to use a pty? |
| 19:21.26 | TD | -t |
| 19:21.30 | scanline | thankski |
| 19:21.36 | scanline | ah |
| 19:21.41 | scanline | the manpage says pseudo-tty |
| 19:21.46 | scanline | I was grepping for pty or terminal |
| 19:22.08 | TD | yeah, i made that mistake the first time .... |
| 19:22.22 | scanline | nooo |
| 19:22.26 | scanline | somehow this compiled without imap support |
| 19:29.43 | ChipX86 | this clearlooks theme is actually quite nice |
| 19:31.04 | kergoth | hrm |
| 19:33.52 | pagefault | yeah I was meaning to try that |
| 19:33.59 | pagefault | is it in apt? |
| 19:35.22 | ChipX86 | actually, it seems that the Human theme now uses it |
| 19:37.25 | ChipX86 | "Error while performing operation. Welcome response error: Operation now in progress." |
| 19:37.28 | ChipX86 | helpful. |
| 19:37.51 | TD | hah |
| 19:37.56 | TD | what is that from? |
| 19:37.59 | ChipX86 | evolution |
| 19:38.16 | purple_cow | yay sleep! |
| 19:38.22 | TD | stupid old-skool apis |
| 19:39.01 | TD | win32 has a similar issue |
| 19:39.03 | TD | ERROR_IO_PENDING |
| 19:40.04 | pagefault | IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL |
| 19:40.07 | pagefault | or something |
| 19:40.11 | kergoth | Success is my favorite |
| 19:40.16 | darth_mall | moooooooooooo |
| 19:40.37 | TD | lol |
| 19:40.39 | TD | yeah |
| 19:40.42 | TD | ERROR_SUCCESS |
| 19:40.45 | TD | S_OK |
| 19:40.47 | TD | S_FALSE |
| 19:40.57 | TD | all equal to zero of course |
| 19:40.59 | TD | STATUS_SUCCESFUL |
| 19:41.05 | TD | how many aliases for zero do you need?! |
| 19:41.07 | kergoth | hehe |
| 19:41.14 | ChipX86 | ZERO |
| 19:41.19 | ChipX86 | ERROR_ZERO |
| 19:41.19 | kergoth | i never seem to know what the Right Way is wrt error handling when doing library design |
| 19:41.19 | TD | hah |
| 19:41.22 | kergoth | opinions? |
| 19:41.29 | ChipX86 | kergoth: when you find out, tell me |
| 19:41.30 | TD | the glib style is pretty good, imho |
| 19:42.24 | ChipX86 | or you could design the library without errors. The developers using it would be happy, and so would the users. No need for bugzlila |
| 19:42.34 | TD | lol |
| 19:43.09 | kergoth | i kinda like what the linux kernel guys did.. they setup macros to encode an error code in the pointer. so when you get back a pointer to something, you check if its an error, and if it is, read the code out of the part of the byte that isnt used. (the type is larger than the largest pointer value..) |
| 19:43.18 | kergoth | ptr = function() |
| 19:43.21 | kergoth | if (IS_ERR(ptr)) { |
| 19:43.22 | kergoth | .. |
| 19:43.23 | kergoth | } |
| 19:43.32 | kergoth | hehe |
| 19:43.43 | ChipX86 | clever |
| 19:44.25 | kergoth | so that way you can just use the error codes everywhere, even on functions that return pointers. consistent. |
| 19:44.29 | kergoth | ah well |
| 19:45.02 | kergoth | yay, my new sharp pointy objects are out for delivery |
| 19:45.43 | TD | argh! |
| 19:45.58 | TD | that kind of thinking is why you need a magic switch to enable 3G/1G VM mode on windows |
| 19:46.09 | kergoth | hah |
| 19:46.12 | TD | encoding data into pointers == bad. |
| 19:46.19 | TD | likewise handles |
| 19:46.28 | kergoth | i know its evil, but some part of me likes it anyway |
| 19:46.40 | scanline | TD: the kernel needs to know all sorts of crazy details about pointers anyway, so why not? |
| 19:46.46 | TD | MS Project wouldn't run for years on wine until dmitry figured out that if the LSB on a handle was 1, it'd jump off into the weeds and crash yards away from the original value |
| 19:46.51 | TD | because on windows, handles are always even |
| 19:47.06 | kergoth | yeah, i wouldnt dare try to do something like that anywhere else |
| 19:50.55 | numist | 0_o |
| 19:51.05 | numist | I didnt know handles were always even on windows |
| 19:51.07 | pagefault | I need food |
| 19:51.16 | TD | numist: nobody did ;) |
| 19:51.19 | TD | that's why it took years to find |
| 19:51.24 | numist | hehe |
| 19:51.25 | TD | it didn't help that project didn't crash cleanly |
| 19:51.25 | ChipX86 | hahaha |
| 19:51.26 | ChipX86 | nice |
| 19:52.05 | TD | i suspect it was once a random implementation detail of how the kernels handle tables worked |
| 19:52.22 | ChipX86 | yay Cherry Blossom Color Season |
| 19:52.25 | TD | and then some smart-ass "discovered" it and though "Hey, I know! I'll encode some important info into the low bit of this handle ! I'm sooooo clever" |
| 19:52.28 | TD | and then they couldn't change it |
| 19:52.49 | numist | hehe |
| 19:52.52 | TD | oh, i tell a lie. /* handles are a multiple of 4 under NT; handle 0 is not used */ |
| 19:52.59 | numist | oh wow |
| 19:53.03 | numist | so. its the bottom 2 bits then |
| 19:53.06 | TD | yeah |
| 19:53.13 | numist | jeez |
| 19:53.35 | numist | what info is kept in those two bits? |
| 19:53.47 | ChipX86 | the number of bits not used |
| 19:53.51 | TD | nothing, they are always zero. |
| 19:54.02 | numist | TD: except in MS Project... |
| 19:54.04 | TD | that's why apps occasionally store things there |
| 19:54.09 | TD | yeah. dunno what they used it for |
| 19:54.10 | numist | ChipX86: har har |
| 19:54.16 | numist | ah, its app dependant |
| 19:54.18 | TD | ChipX86 is feeling witty today |
| 19:54.40 | numist | thought they were bitmasks for OS variables or something |
| 19:54.48 | ChipX86 | I should be at the office. I like it there. |
| 19:54.55 | TD | ChipX86: where are you? |
| 19:54.58 | numist | your not at the office yet? |
| 19:54.58 | ChipX86 | home :~( |
| 19:54.59 | kergoth | I shouldnt be at the office, because I hate it here |
| 19:55.06 | ChipX86 | working from home because I need to clean this place.. |
| 19:55.07 | numist | dude, your running later than normal |
| 19:55.08 | TD | ahhh |
| 19:55.09 | numist | ah |
| 19:55.10 | ChipX86 | but man I wish I was at work |
| 19:55.18 | numist | thats what I did yesterday, house looks great now |
| 19:55.35 | TD | ChipX86: you'll get over it ;) i felt like that for the first week of my gap year job |
| 19:55.44 | TD | then i realised how dull offices are |
| 19:55.44 | TD | now |
| 19:55.51 | TD | vmware is probably about 20,000x cooler than qinetiq |
| 19:55.55 | ChipX86 | TD: I step outside and see birds flying and waterfalls |
| 19:55.58 | TD | nonetheless, that just means it'll take 20,000x longer |
| 19:56.11 | TD | ChipX86: ahhh, young love ;) |
| 19:56.14 | ChipX86 | :) |
| 19:56.17 | ChipX86 | no, but literally |
| 19:56.32 | ChipX86 | the walkways are lined with water |
| 19:56.36 | ChipX86 | picnic tables |
| 19:56.41 | ChipX86 | wooden balconies |
| 19:56.45 | ChipX86 | it's soooo relaxing |
| 19:56.51 | TD | very nice |
| 19:56.56 | ChipX86 | feels like I left the city |
| 19:57.03 | ChipX86 | like I'm camping |
| 19:57.07 | ChipX86 | :D |
| 19:57.17 | TD | well, vmware certainly know how to motivate their employees :) |
| 19:57.38 | kergoth | heh, what positions does vmware have open again? :P |
| 19:57.53 | TD | chief carpenter |
| 19:57.55 | ChipX86 | I only know that our team needs GTK UI guys |
| 19:57.57 | TD | old one died of overwork |
| 19:58.03 | TD | ChipX86: more?! |
| 19:58.12 | ChipX86 | we only have 5 |
| 19:58.21 | ChipX86 | me, Philip, Regis, Joey, and Alex |
| 19:58.24 | TD | wow. yeah, but dude. that's like half of the *entire* crossover team :) |
| 19:59.03 | ChipX86 | oh no! |
| 19:59.05 | ChipX86 | I'm missing a team lunch |
| 19:59.29 | pagefault | I need a pizza fund |
| 20:00.16 | numist | :/ and in come the rejections today to the resumes sent out yesterday... I hate this part of the job search |
| 20:00.19 | ChipX86 | damn, what should I do now.. |
| 20:00.32 | numist | ChipX86: any chance to make it in time? |
| 20:00.42 | ChipX86 | if they pick me up or wait an hour |
| 20:00.50 | ChipX86 | I want to BS with the guys :( |
| 20:00.54 | ChipX86 | and girls |
| 20:01.17 | darth_mall | poor ChipX86 |
| 20:01.27 | numist | seems like you wont be making it then |
| 20:01.34 | darth_mall | ~cpr ChipX86 |
| 20:01.36 | jbot | ChipX86: <smoochu> :-* |
| 20:01.43 | numist | hmm... |
| 20:02.06 | TD | ChipX86: you can keep me company then |
| 20:02.10 | TD | s/company/from working/ |
| 20:02.30 | kergoth | https://developer.berlios.de/projects/linuxapiut/ |
| 20:02.41 | ChipX86 | oh well |
| 20:03.18 | darth_mall | hehe |
| 20:03.23 | darth_mall | working is for chumps =D |
| 20:03.34 | ChipX86 | I love what I'm working on right now. it's fun. |
| 20:03.40 | ChipX86 | except for this bug I cannot figure out |
| 20:06.18 | ChipX86 | I should have gone to work and left early |
| 20:07.08 | TD | yeah, i love my job too |
| 20:07.25 | ChipX86 | :) yay for good jobs! |
| 20:07.29 | TD | indeedykins |
| 20:07.45 | ChipX86 | I feel bad for people who have crappy jobs and just accept it because they don't know that they can get jobs they like |
| 20:09.01 | kergoth | you people suck |
| 20:09.02 | kergoth | :P |
| 20:09.15 | kergoth | speaking of stabbing.. |
| 20:10.06 | TD | yeah |
| 20:10.07 | TD | i know |
| 20:10.09 | TD | i definitely suck |
| 20:10.56 | pagefault | zoidberg |
| 20:14.29 | darth_mall | kernel updatey time |
| 20:15.23 | pagefault | what is the bittorrent open source license |
| 20:18.37 | ChipX86 | yep, I suck too |
| 20:20.34 | ChipX86 | hmm |
| 20:20.39 | ChipX86 | shame hoary isn't released right now |
| 20:20.47 | ChipX86 | guess I'll just upgrade Jamie's box with the preview release |
| 20:22.21 | ChipX86 | it's released? |
| 20:22.57 | TD | dunno |
| 20:23.02 | TD | but it told me i only had 2 days left, ages ago |
| 20:23.31 | pagefault | you can get array 5 |
| 20:23.54 | pagefault | although 6 might be out soon |
| 20:24.01 | ChipX86 | 6? |
| 20:24.05 | TD | i mean vmware beta |
| 20:24.07 | TD | not ubuntu |
| 20:24.11 | pagefault | talking about ubuntu |
| 20:24.13 | pagefault | hoary |
| 20:24.26 | pagefault | you can get a cd image of it |
| 20:24.32 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 20:25.06 | pagefault | yeah |
| 20:25.11 | pagefault | mine expires soon too |
| 20:25.17 | pagefault | I guess I need to get a new version or something |
| 20:32.45 | Samy | LADIES |
| 20:32.50 | ChipX86 | yes? |
| 20:34.04 | ChipX86 | MythBusters is just so cool |
| 20:36.06 | Samy | ChipX86: Hi :) |
| 20:36.10 | ChipX86 | hi |
| 20:37.16 | scanline | yay mythbusters |
| 20:39.40 | ChipX86 | now *they* have a cool job |
| 20:43.59 | scanline | yeah. Jamie's shop has a web site talking about all the cool stuff they do :) |
| 20:44.15 | ChipX86 | neat |
| 20:44.30 | ChipX86 | I don't know why I haven't watched this show until now |
| 20:44.59 | purple_cow | cool |
| 20:45.02 | purple_cow | http://bugzilla.gnome.org/reports/keyword-search.cgi?keyword=gnome-love |
| 20:46.30 | ChipX86 | cool |
| 20:46.58 | pagefault | hmm |
| 20:47.03 | pagefault | I didn't know the nvidia drivers didn't use DRI |
| 20:47.07 | pagefault | thats pretty lame of them |
| 20:49.14 | purple_cow | why? |
| 20:49.31 | purple_cow | they generally work *much* better than any DRI driver i've seen |
| 20:50.10 | nullpuppy | i thought the nvidia glx stuff takes care of the dri stuff... |
| 20:50.13 | pagefault | well the matrox ones work really well |
| 20:50.35 | darth_mall | blargy blargy bloo |
| 20:50.55 | nullpuppy | 51718 frames in 5.0 seconds = 10343.600 FPS |
| 20:51.00 | nullpuppy | :) |
| 20:51.01 | purple_cow | nullpuppy: it does direct rendering, but doesn't use the DRI infrastructure |
| 20:51.13 | nullpuppy | purple_cow: yeah |
| 20:51.45 | ChipX86 | "But why simply drop buttered toast when you can build an over-elaborate machine to do it?" |
| 20:52.01 | nullpuppy | hehe |
| 20:52.11 | pagefault | glxgears? heh |
| 20:52.22 | nullpuppy | yeah *shrugs* |
| 20:52.39 | scanline | wow |
| 20:52.43 | scanline | 3793 CIA users |
| 20:52.44 | scanline | biggest I |
| 20:52.46 | scanline | er |
| 20:52.48 | pagefault | the ati drivers are still kinda slow in some stuff |
| 20:52.50 | scanline | biggest I've seen that recently |
| 20:52.51 | ChipX86 | wow! Which one am I? |
| 20:52.56 | pagefault | but they have come extremely far in 2 months |
| 20:53.00 | nullpuppy | hmm.. hey ChipX86 ... any way you could get me a discount on vmware 5 when it comes out? :) |
| 20:53.06 | nullpuppy | pagefault: yeah |
| 20:53.07 | pagefault | they went from supporting nothing in opengl 2.0 |
| 20:53.11 | pagefault | to nearly fully support |
| 20:53.19 | ChipX86 | nullpuppy: yeah probably |
| 20:53.24 | nullpuppy | cool |
| 20:53.27 | pagefault | I just want some performance increases now |
| 20:53.36 | pagefault | WoW runs as good as windows until I get into a city |
| 20:53.40 | pagefault | then it chugs along |
| 20:54.10 | nullpuppy | pagefault: yeah. ati is finally starting to do somethings right, but i still prefer my 6600gt :) |
| 20:54.32 | pagefault | they just need to get the cedega people's head out of their asses |
| 20:54.38 | nullpuppy | yeah |
| 20:54.40 | pagefault | the latest one breaks so much stuff on ati drivers |
| 20:54.45 | pagefault | of course the drivers are buggy |
| 20:54.50 | nullpuppy | yeah |
| 20:54.52 | pagefault | but the point is it worked fine before |
| 20:54.58 | nullpuppy | oh yeah.. 4.3 is out isn't it.. /me should go grab it |
| 20:56.51 | pagefault | yeah |
| 20:56.51 | pagefault | bbl |
| 21:01.15 | scanline | woo |
| 21:01.39 | scanline | I haven't done this stuff in so many years... |
| 21:01.45 | scanline | have to look up most of the equations :P |
| 21:02.14 | scanline | it's disappointing that we've apparently now done all we're going to on circuits, and so now we're on magnetic fields... |
| 21:05.27 | CIA-3 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r7268 10evo/publish-calendar/ (4 files): |
| 21:05.28 | CIA-3 | navi-misc: bunch o' changes: |
| 21:05.28 | CIA-3 | navi-misc: repopulate the editor dialog when we've got a real URI |
| 21:05.28 | CIA-3 | navi-misc: force files to begin with '/' when saving to a URI |
| 21:05.28 | CIA-3 | navi-misc: encode the username field within the URI rather than as a separate property |
| 21:05.28 | CIA-3 | navi-misc: fix a couple memory leaks |
| 21:08.50 | scanline | oh no, it's slimspace |
| 21:08.59 | slimspace | yeah... sigh... |
| 21:14.25 | ChipX86 | "I think this can only mean one thing." "It's time to butter the toast?" "It's time to butter the toast." |
| 21:25.48 | scanline | ooh look |
| 21:25.49 | ChipX86 | Google Punishes Self for Cloaking |
| 21:27.37 | scanline | yay, physics homework done |
| 21:28.02 | ChipX86 | I want to spin a proton |
| 21:28.57 | scanline | well, it wasn't spinning, it was orbiting |
| 21:29.00 | scanline | in a uniform magnetic field |
| 21:45.16 | purple_cow | time to go get my head examined |
| 21:46.00 | scanline | fun |
| 21:54.14 | CIA-3 | spacegrant: 03dowty * r1051 10mck/PyMCK/ (DataLogger.py Test/test_datalogger.py): Fix the DataLogger test cases |
| 21:58.30 | scanline | ooh... hmm.... |
| 21:59.24 | ChipX86 | today sucks |
| 21:59.27 | ChipX86 | not a thing works |
| 21:59.43 | TD | man i'm bloated |
| 21:59.46 | scanline | I bet we could store these sensor names really efficiently if we MD5 or SHA1'ed them all, then truncated each hash so that it includes the minimum number of characters necessary to represent one sensor unambiguously |
| 21:59.47 | TD | too much pizza + apple juice |
| 21:59.55 | TD | lol |
| 21:59.59 | TD | scanline: are there really that many? |
| 22:00.17 | scanline | TD: there aren't that many, but I need a way of generating short IDs for them in a consistent way |
| 22:00.31 | kergoth | have i mentioned how much i hate ups yet today? |
| 22:00.34 | scanline | I don't want to have to maintain a fixed table mapping long names to IDs |
| 22:01.27 | kergoth | damnit, this pdf file has errors in some of the pages |
| 22:01.31 | kergoth | cant print it |
| 22:01.39 | TD | heh |
| 22:01.40 | TD | poor old ivan |
| 22:01.50 | TD | he hasn't figured out yet that arguing with julliard once he made up his mind is pointless |
| 22:02.57 | CIA-3 | spacegrant: 03dowty * r1052 10mck/PyMCK/ (Struct.py Types.py): whitespace |
| 22:31.07 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10BZFlagG3D/server/ (inc/server.h src/server.cpp): flesh out framework for server abstract app and applets. Add comments descripbing framework |
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| 22:38.40 | kergoth | bleh |
| 22:39.28 | ChipX86 | hmm, 1GB USB thumb drive for $50 after $20 rebate |
| 22:40.43 | kergoth | hmm... i need to buy some computing books.. so pricey |
| 22:42.41 | Samy | There are illegal methods. |
| 22:42.55 | ChipX86 | I love court shows |
| 22:42.57 | Samy | kergoth: Well, an e-book is likely available if you're cool with that. |
| 22:43.14 | ChipX86 | they make me feel sooo much better about my own life. Knowing I'm not *that* screwed up :) |
| 22:43.23 | nullpuppy | lol |
| 22:43.59 | ChipX86 | this one in particular is great |
| 22:44.49 | ChipX86 | this girl got drunk at a party, slept with the DJ, and with another person, got pregnant, and is now demanding that he pay child support. She changed her story a number of times, and then the judge said there's a lot of dishonesty going on |
| 22:44.54 | nullpuppy | awww, my vmware beta license expires in 6 days :/ |
| 22:44.59 | ChipX86 | she said, "Yeah, there is! He told me he was 26, and he's really 35!" |
| 22:45.09 | Samy | haha |
| 22:45.17 | nullpuppy | lol |
| 22:45.31 | TD | ahaha |
| 22:45.52 | ChipX86 | the poor guy didn't even know about the other guy she was sleeping with until they were in court |
| 22:46.05 | ChipX86 | she said, "I told him he's the only person I've ever had sex with so that he wouldn't run away!" |
| 22:46.33 | ChipX86 | she said it can't be the other guy she's sleeping with, because that's just a friends with benefits and they use protection sometimes |
| 22:46.36 | TD | lol |
| 22:46.40 | TD | that's brilliant |
| 22:46.42 | ChipX86 | she's a smart one. |
| 22:46.44 | TD | i mean that did actually make me laugh out loud |
| 22:46.46 | nullpuppy | rofl |
| 22:46.53 | TD | i hope i didn't wake anybody up |
| 22:46.56 | ChipX86 | :) |
| 22:48.10 | ChipX86 | "I don't want him to be the father of this child" |
| 22:48.14 | nullpuppy | ChipX86: what channel is that on? |
| 22:48.21 | ChipX86 | fox |
| 22:48.27 | ChipX86 | it's almost over |
| 22:48.50 | ChipX86 | hah, he's not the father, and she's *thrilled* |
| 22:48.52 | ChipX86 | wtf |
| 22:50.00 | ChipX86 | that was great |
| 22:50.50 | ChipX86 | ooh china food |
| 22:50.50 | hardwire | ugh |
| 22:50.56 | hardwire | papa johns failed terrible last night |
| 22:51.03 | hardwire | they used mapquest to find our house |
| 22:51.05 | nullpuppy | haha |
| 22:51.08 | hardwire | and ended up on the wrong side of a major street |
| 22:51.12 | nullpuppy | jerry springer is on here :/ |
| 22:51.23 | hardwire | took an hour before they called from the pizza place saying they couldn't find it |
| 22:51.37 | hardwire | an hour after they were supposed to be here that is |
| 22:51.39 | hardwire | oh well |
| 22:51.39 | hardwire | so |
| 22:51.44 | hardwire | lets try happy panda chinese food |
| 22:51.51 | hardwire | spicy beef w/ fried rice |
| 22:51.52 | hardwire | nummers |
| 22:52.00 | ChipX86 | I wonder when my CD is coming |
| 22:53.21 | ChipX86 | oohhh.. http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B0006IRMWU/ref=m_art_li_2/104-6936674-8939108?v=glance&s=music |
| 22:53.30 | ChipX86 | must find that for cheaper |
| 22:54.01 | ChipX86 | "I wasn't sexually involved with him! He was sexually involved with me." |
| 22:56.19 | TD | ahahahahahaha |
| 22:56.21 | TD | oh wow |
| 22:56.23 | TD | this girl is pure gold |
| 22:56.30 | ChipX86 | this was a different girl |
| 22:56.32 | TD | oh |
| 22:56.45 | ChipX86 | this one is worse |
| 22:57.54 | kergoth | if ups doesnt deliver my package today that i was supposed to have yesterday, i'm not going to be happy |
| 22:57.59 | ChipX86 | :( |
| 22:58.26 | ChipX86 | hope I get Finsternis today |
| 22:59.16 | kergoth | has anyone here read Knuth's book 'Concrete Mathematics'? I've been out of school too long and am looking for a book to refresh my memory on things to give me a foundation so I can read the art of computer programming and actually understand it. |
| 22:59.22 | kergoth | heh |
| 23:00.56 | TD | that's the one that is in fact a suitable substitute for concrete according to federal regulations, right? |
| 23:00.58 | TD | or am i mis-remembering |
| 23:01.28 | hardwire | hmm.. |
| 23:01.31 | hardwire | this should be interesting |
| 23:01.44 | hardwire | I need to find some doze software capable of unicasting an mpeg-2 stream from a usb PVR |
| 23:01.51 | hardwire | well.. MPEG-2 encoder |
| 23:01.57 | hardwire | anybody here fucked with that? |
| 23:03.54 | TD | i find condoms work better |
| 23:04.26 | scanline | hmmm |
| 23:04.34 | scanline | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:04.34 | scanline | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:04.34 | scanline | <TD> i find condoms work better |
| 23:04.39 | scanline | odd side of the conversation to be on |
| 23:04.43 | *** part/#tacobeam hardwire (~hardwire@209.112.194.45) |
| 23:04.58 | TD | ahahaha |
| 23:04.59 | TD | nop |
| 23:05.01 | TD | the best side |
| 23:05.06 | scanline | probably :) |
| 23:05.31 | scanline | that's all they talk about in here, and I have zero interest in it |
| 23:06.06 | TD | probably more due to my knackered mental state though..... |
| 23:06.34 | scanline | I just got especially annoyed last night.. lurgy, cwisty, and I were trying to talk and they just started spouting off really boring stuff |
| 23:07.57 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10BZFlagG3D/ (7 files in 7 dirs): add server game applet registration and a simple test game applet |
| 23:07.58 | TD | anyway, it was a really lame "joke" |
| 23:08.07 | TD | where i am using the most liberal interpretation of the word |
| 23:08.08 | TD | <hardwire> well.. MPEG-2 encoder |
| 23:08.08 | TD | <hardwire> anybody here fucked with that? |
| 23:08.08 | TD | <TD> i find condoms work better |
| 23:09.21 | ChipX86 | :) |
| 23:12.33 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10BZFlagG3D/server/ (inc/server.h src/server.cpp): move args out of serverApp class, and only pass in a ServerOpitons object. this allows serverApp to work for things that may not have args ( like a service ). |
| 23:12.40 | ChipX86 | days like this make me hate programming |
| 23:15.13 | TD | it's a java day |
| 23:15.29 | TD | <sigh> i'm so immature |
| 23:15.32 | TD | i should hate C and love java |
| 23:15.35 | TD | but do I? no |
| 23:18.41 | ChipX86 | you know, it's weird.. |
| 23:18.50 | ChipX86 | I can afford toys now, and I can pay bills, and rent, and everything |
| 23:18.57 | ChipX86 | but you know what the hardest thing to pay for is? |
| 23:19.00 | ChipX86 | laundry. |
| 23:19.03 | ChipX86 | I can never find quarters. |
| 23:19.25 | ChipX86 | I panic every week or so trying to find out how I'm going to pay for a load of laundry |
| 23:19.45 | CIA-3 | openembedded: 03kergoth 07 * r1.3043.2.1 10openembedded/packages/uclibc++/ (uclibc++_0.1.9.bb files/nobash.patch files/defconfig): Add uClibc++ 0.1.9 (A C++ standard library targeted towards the embedded systems/software market). |
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| 23:23.38 | ChipX86 | "This tastes like chicken." "So what's wrong with it?" "It's macaroni and cheese." |
| 23:24.01 | nullpuppy | lol |
| 23:24.49 | TD | ChipX86: yeah i know that feeling |
| 23:24.53 | CIA-3 | openembedded: 03kergoth 07 * r1.3057 10openembedded/packages/uclibc++/uclibc++_0.1.9.bb: Fix the uclibc++ build to set the execute bit on the .so, to ensure it gets stripped. |
| 23:24.53 | TD | except s/laundry/rent/ |
| 23:28.19 | kergoth | libuClibc++ is 94k. libstdc++ is 724k. |
| 23:28.23 | purple_cow | hmm, laundry |
| 23:28.23 | kergoth | nifty |
| 23:28.23 | purple_cow | guh |
| 23:28.34 | purple_cow | i can't believe eugenia posted an editorial on developers being unreceptive |
| 23:28.41 | ChipX86 | oh boy |
| 23:32.21 | purple_cow | at least one of the comments points out that there are many ways to ask for something, and some of those ways will work and some will get you punched in the nose |
| 23:36.17 | ChipX86 | guess I could go to the store and buy something and get quarters that way, but I don't know what I'd need to buy at this point |
| 23:37.15 | nullpuppy | you could go 'buy' a roll of quarters |
| 23:37.30 | ChipX86 | heh where? |
| 23:37.58 | nullpuppy | a bank? some stores might be able to do taht as well... |
| 23:39.02 | ChipX86 | I'm not near any banks, and would rather not go walking for an hour |
| 23:39.05 | ChipX86 | and the store doesn't do that |
| 23:39.17 | nullpuppy | :( |
| 23:41.06 | lurgy | heh, silly eugenia advocating the developer-as-slave OSS model |
| 23:41.33 | TD | you make it sound respectable |
| 23:41.37 | TD | like some business scheme :) |
| 23:42.23 | purple_cow | ChipX86: grocery stores often have them |
| 23:42.47 | purple_cow | i don't think eugenia understands what the "average" user wants |
| 23:42.52 | ChipX86 | the one next to me doesn't, and is closing. The closest one aside from that is a couple of miles. I don't want to walk that :) |
| 23:43.54 | lurgy | i don't think eugenia understands that OSS developers don't return home from their livelihood and then immediately ask themselves "how can I contribute to OSS?" :P |
| 23:45.01 | lurgy | seems to me that usually they want something, then they make a tool that does that, and then share their work with others out of niceness |
| 23:45.34 | ChipX86 | yep |
| 23:45.57 | lurgy | it's not a "whew, i'm home from work, i wonder if there's a user i can help somehow" |
| 23:46.12 | lurgy | she's just fundamentally misunderstanding the motivation |
| 23:46.29 | lurgy | and she's talking as if they get paid |
| 23:46.38 | lurgy | and owe the users something for some reason |
| 23:48.38 | lurgy | "It would be like the user does not respect him/herself by using a tool that does not do all it could do or all things the user needs it to do" <- and that's newage self-centered blubbering |
| 23:51.31 | purple_cow | heh |
| 23:52.01 | lurgy | it's as if Oprah suddenly had an opinion on the topic |
| 23:52.36 | lurgy | and voiced it through Eugenia |
| 23:52.42 | ChipX86 | wonder what her opinion on open source would be |
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| 23:56.24 | lurgy | probably something like that :P except i don't think she could outdo eugenia in the me-generation "i deserve this so give it to me" BS |
