| 00:00.08 | darth_mall | it's cool that it's in a daemon |
| 00:04.47 | darth_mall | hmm... this gnome client could use some work... |
| 00:05.02 | ChipX86 | no it couldn't. |
| 00:05.34 | darth_mall | oh, my bad |
| 00:06.19 | kergoth | darth_mall: cool, i'll have to try that |
| 00:06.45 | ChipX86 | there's a squirrel outside my window :) |
| 00:06.53 | kergoth | is it merry? |
| 00:07.09 | darth_mall | kergoth: it's really cool, but I'm not sure I like most of the available clients |
| 00:07.12 | ChipX86 | it's huge |
| 00:07.12 | purple_cow | hmm, i seem to have completely forgotten which episode of 12 kingdoms i was on... |
| 00:07.35 | darth_mall | the topic in #mpd is asking for gmpc devs, so I may try and do some work with it when I have a chance (read: probably never) ;) |
| 00:07.53 | kergoth | darth_mall: hehe |
| 00:11.00 | darth_mall | hi slimspace |
| 00:11.40 | slimspace | hi darth_mall |
| 00:12.57 | purple_cow | yay! hoffman is leaving! |
| 00:13.05 | darth_mall | yep |
| 00:13.12 | darth_mall | the e-mail is hilarious |
| 00:13.25 | darth_mall | it's like she wasn't even paying attention to what was going on during her stint here |
| 00:16.37 | ChipX86 | bahhhh |
| 00:16.40 | ChipX86 | QA made my office cold |
| 00:16.43 | purple_cow | hehe |
| 00:16.47 | purple_cow | we've got a copy of THX 1138 now |
| 00:17.00 | ChipX86 | Aleksander came in and fiddled with the thermostat (I didn't even know I had one) |
| 00:20.57 | purple_cow | hurray bananas |
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| 00:22.37 | scanline | hmm.. so on the way home, my rio turned itself off while playing a song.. then when I tried it again, at that same place in the song it got stuck unresponsive with a blank screen but the backlight on |
| 00:22.50 | scanline | methinks it's time to wipe away all that database corruption I must have caused while debugging stuff |
| 00:22.57 | darth_mall | ^^ |
| 00:23.12 | cwisty | hello! |
| 00:23.34 | scanline | fancy |
| 00:23.38 | cwisty | I konw |
| 00:23.45 | purple_cow | hmm, shuttle |
| 00:23.46 | cwisty | unplugged it from the TV |
| 00:23.56 | cwisty | it hasn't seen my desk in weeks! |
| 00:23.57 | darth_mall | purple_cow: could give one to me =D |
| 00:24.06 | purple_cow | darth_mall: i'd like to :P |
| 00:24.07 | darth_mall | purple_cow: that would constitute doing something |
| 00:24.13 | darth_mall | ^^ |
| 00:24.35 | darth_mall | purple_cow: if you give me one, I'll let you and scanline keep one of the others each as payment |
| 00:24.36 | darth_mall | ^^ |
| 00:24.44 | scanline | I want one! |
| 00:24.58 | scanline | yoshi has seen better days |
| 00:25.22 | scanline | hmm.. sure does take it a while to delete everything |
| 00:26.19 | ChipX86 | http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/050307/480/nyma10203071958 |
| 00:26.29 | ChipX86 | Martha Stewart (news - web sites) is not wearing a electronic monitoring ankle bracelet as addresses members of her staff during a meeting at Martha Stewart Living Omnimedia Inc. in New York, Monday, March 7, 2005. After five months in prison and a weekend spent more comfortably at her 153-acre suburban estate, Stewart spoke to staff at Martha Stewart Living Omnimedia Inc., as members of the media looked on. |
| 00:26.45 | ChipX86 | smart. |
| 00:26.51 | ChipX86 | violated probation already |
| 00:26.56 | darth_mall | lol |
| 00:27.27 | ChipX86 | http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20050307/capt.nyma10203071958.martha_stewart_nyma102.jpg |
| 00:27.31 | ChipX86 | and she has a clone! |
| 00:27.34 | ChipX86 | look to the right of her |
| 00:28.36 | ChipX86 | oh, apparently she has time when she doesn't have to wear that |
| 00:28.43 | kergoth | aha, i got my packages confused. the one i got today is my tuxscreen |
| 00:28.46 | ChipX86 | and she doesn't even have it yet |
| 00:28.49 | kergoth | looks like i'll get my cold steel order in 3 days |
| 00:28.55 | kergoth | and shuttle still hasnt shipped |
| 00:28.56 | kergoth | bleh |
| 00:29.06 | purple_cow | hah, tuxscreen? |
| 00:29.15 | kergoth | yeah :) tomw sold me one of his |
| 00:30.14 | scanline | hah |
| 00:30.15 | ChipX86 | silly stupid companies not giving tracking numbers |
| 00:30.25 | ChipX86 | hope I get my CD today |
| 00:32.54 | purple_cow | woo |
| 00:33.02 | purple_cow | elijah newren is wrangling d-d-l |
| 00:33.15 | scanline | Done |
| 00:33.16 | scanline | Connected. 0 files in database, 18.55/18.55 GB free |
| 00:33.16 | scanline | Obtaining write lock... |
| 00:33.28 | scanline | sure does sync fast on an empty disk |
| 00:38.31 | scanline | ChipX86: you should blog something with some javascript that removes the protest :P |
| 00:38.45 | ChipX86 | haha |
| 00:38.54 | ChipX86 | a "Let There Be Light!" white link |
| 00:39.08 | scanline | hehe |
| 00:39.14 | scanline | or just search through the page's DOM and fix it |
| 00:39.19 | ChipX86 | give me the javascript and I'll do it |
| 00:39.29 | ChipX86 | yeah, but the link would activate it I mean :) |
| 00:39.30 | scanline | planet probably filters that out |
| 00:39.35 | ChipX86 | yeah.. |
| 00:40.07 | purple_cow | scanline: heh, i was just thinking about the javascript :) |
| 00:40.31 | CIA-3 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r7239 10xchat-gnome/fe-gnome/connect-dialog.c: fix a silly warning |
| 00:40.57 | purple_cow | i love how gnome.org says "we return Planet GNOME to the dark ages" |
| 00:41.08 | purple_cow | idiots... |
| 00:41.38 | scanline | the posts on planet gnome that it hides have far more useful stuff about the patent issue :P |
| 00:41.39 | ChipX86 | it doesn't filter :) |
| 00:41.41 | darth_mall | hmm... I think I figured out why my pretty picture didn't look like purple_cow's |
| 00:42.03 | ChipX86 | so if you want to give me javascript, I'll do it |
| 00:42.07 | ChipX86 | and probably get booted off pgo |
| 00:42.18 | scanline | haha |
| 00:43.09 | purple_cow | ChipX86: pfft. just say in the blog entry that you've hacked around it because it's preaching to the choir but find some links that are a bit more useful than "how do i use this wiki?" |
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| 00:43.33 | pagefault | taco |
| 00:43.56 | purple_cow | and talk *very strongly* about the bad impression that gnome.org is showing right now |
| 00:44.41 | ChipX86 | nod |
| 00:45.06 | purple_cow | because that's just too childish |
| 00:45.57 | ChipX86 | yep |
| 00:47.08 | darth_mall | mm.... Toxicity, haven't listened to this cd in quite some time |
| 00:47.41 | darth_mall | purple_cow: but... they're making a point! |
| 00:52.13 | pagefault | silly gnome |
| 00:52.53 | scanline | <script type="text/javascript"> |
| 00:52.53 | scanline | var i, a; |
| 00:52.53 | scanline | for (i=0; (a=document.getElementsByTagName("link")[i]); i++) { |
| 00:52.53 | scanline | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:52.53 | scanline | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:52.53 | scanline | } |
| 00:53.03 | scanline | </script> |
| 00:53.05 | scanline | that will nuke their protest.css stylesheet, returning colors to normal |
| 00:53.16 | scanline | if we also wanted to kill the message itself that's doable, but it's relatively unobtrusive without the CSS |
| 00:53.44 | ChipX86 | Good point, Chip! |
| 00:53.53 | purple_cow | the message is ok :P |
| 00:53.55 | purple_cow | not great, but not bad |
| 00:54.41 | pagefault | do any functions in linux make use of rdtsc? |
| 00:54.45 | purple_cow | i think the reason they didn't have time to let their bread rise when they were escaping egypt was because they were too busy waiting for their corn syrup to set |
| 00:54.49 | scanline | document.getElementById("protest").style.display = 'none'; |
| 00:54.55 | pagefault | I need to do some high resolution timers |
| 00:54.57 | scanline | ChipX86: that will kill the message |
| 00:55.12 | ChipX86 | kinda worried about doing this slightly, but let's see.. |
| 00:55.16 | scanline | hehe |
| 00:55.35 | CIA-3 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r7240 10xchat-gnome/fe-gnome/ (6 files): rename that page, now that we're done with it |
| 00:56.03 | purple_cow | you could rewrite the contents of the protest element ;) |
| 00:56.19 | ChipX86 | I'm not going to change the page unless people click a link |
| 00:56.34 | purple_cow | aww |
| 00:57.30 | scanline | aha |
| 00:58.09 | scanline | http://navi.cx/~micah/unprotest |
| 00:58.18 | scanline | that seems to work as expected when pasted into a copy of the p.g.o page |
| 00:58.48 | darth_mall | pagefault: hmm? |
| 00:58.57 | darth_mall | mine's pretty stable |
| 00:59.03 | pagefault | darth_mall, i've had it crash on me a few times, not sure why |
| 00:59.12 | purple_cow | pagefault: stack traces help :P |
| 00:59.13 | darth_mall | no bt? |
| 00:59.21 | pagefault | nope, will do next time it happens though |
| 00:59.29 | darth_mall | mine hasn't crashed in ages |
| 00:59.37 | pagefault | it might be my gnome libs though |
| 00:59.38 | darth_mall | except when I'm doing stupid things with plugins ^^ |
| 00:59.57 | pagefault | hehe |
| 01:00.11 | darth_mall | haven't had much time for it lately... plus there's all the bugfixes for 0.4 |
| 01:03.47 | CIA-3 | opencombat: 03jeffm2501 * 10G3dWorldTest/ (4 files in 2 dirs): add texture manager wraper that can do time based unloads |
| 01:04.33 | CIA-3 | opencombat: 03jeffm2501 * 10G3dWorldTest/VC71/G3dWorldTest.vcproj: add texture manager wraper that can do time based unloads |
| 01:05.19 | pagefault | cool |
| 01:06.17 | ChipX86 | I'm thinking I really shouldn't mess with it. |
| 01:07.11 | ChipX86 | yeah I guess.. |
| 01:07.18 | darth_mall | but you'll mess up their great statement about webpages in the middle ages! |
| 01:07.29 | purple_cow | hehe |
| 01:07.40 | darth_mall | damn those dark age web designers and the fascist black backgrounds |
| 01:07.58 | purple_cow | hurray, opera tickets |
| 01:08.04 | darth_mall | hmm... when is the opera? |
| 01:08.09 | purple_cow | friday or sunday |
| 01:10.58 | CIA-3 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r7241 10xchat-gnome/fe-gnome/Makefile.am: add preferences-dialog.glade to _DATA |
| 01:13.34 | CIA-3 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r7242 10xchat-gnome/fe-gnome/preferences-dialog.c: remove the mostly-useless spacing function for the file transfers page, since we'll have that in a seperate file eventually |
| 01:14.01 | CIA-3 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r7243 10xchat-gnome/fe-gnome/ (pixmaps.c pixmaps.h): no need to have the colors pixmap permanently loaded now |
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| 01:16.19 | orchid | hi! |
| 01:17.13 | ChipX86 | :D |
| 01:17.14 | ChipX86 | what ind? |
| 01:17.15 | ChipX86 | er, kind |
| 01:17.16 | purple_cow | getting one of those 24" beauties? |
| 01:17.26 | orchid | yep the Dell 24" one |
| 01:17.41 | orchid | I suppose I will get a new video card too |
| 01:17.58 | ChipX86 | nice |
| 01:18.17 | darth_mall | orchid: cool |
| 01:18.36 | orchid | yup, *and* I just found out one of my freinds has a brother whose a rep at Dell.ca :P |
| 01:18.58 | orchid | so hes gonna do some fanagling on my behalf |
| 01:19.59 | kergoth | orchid: wow, nice |
| 01:20.53 | orchid | I'm not sure how much he can get for me discount wise, but every bit helps as they are $1720 CDN with tax |
| 01:21.24 | darth_mall | nifty |
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| 01:30.46 | darth_mall | should probably get off to capoeira |
| 01:31.15 | purple_cow | ChipX86: oh no! your link is black! |
| 01:31.22 | purple_cow | but it does work :) |
| 01:33.40 | darth_mall | ChipX86: awesome! =D |
| 01:42.42 | KeyserSoze | is it brand new? |
| 01:42.50 | KeyserSoze | like, came out in the last few weeks? |
| 01:44.03 | KeyserSoze | damn! $1200 |
| 01:44.30 | KeyserSoze | that's like $600 under the samsung 24" |
| 01:44.33 | purple_cow | it looks pretty though |
| 01:45.41 | KeyserSoze | 1200 is way cheaper than any other 1920x1200 LCD |
| 01:51.15 | orchid | KeyserSoze: there coupons you can get in the US, people got it as low as $900 I'm hearing |
| 01:54.06 | KeyserSoze | woah |
| 01:55.14 | orchid | http://episteme.arstechnica.com/eve/ubb.x/a/tpc/f/67909965/m/521006989631/r/415005602731#415005602731 |
| 01:56.48 | scanline | oh no, my music ran out |
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| 01:58.44 | pagefault | ugh |
| 01:58.46 | pagefault | bad singing |
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| 02:01.07 | purple_cow | the problem with me and monitors is that i need two of the same =/ |
| 02:04.05 | scanline | ferrets are illegal in california? |
| 02:04.11 | numist | yep |
| 02:04.22 | scanline | how.. bizarre |
| 02:04.29 | numist | they forgot to categorize them as livestock or domesticated animals, so they automatically got categorized as pests |
| 02:04.33 | numist | which are illegal to keep |
| 02:04.40 | numist | so, no pet roaches either |
| 02:04.43 | scanline | hah |
| 02:05.00 | numist | yeah, this state is pretty stupid sometimes |
| 02:07.12 | pagefault_ | yes yes |
| 02:07.23 | pagefault_ | if you cooked any more slowly, you wouldn't need an egg timer |
| 02:07.27 | pagefault_ | you would need an egg calendar |
| 02:07.33 | pagefault_ | yeah thats right, I went there |
| 02:07.39 | numist | heh |
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| 02:13.14 | purple_cow | hmm, cooking eggs |
| 02:14.30 | *** join/#tacobeam numist (~numist@numist.sustaining.supporter.pdpc) |
| 02:16.39 | kergoth | hmm |
| 02:16.50 | pagefault_ | Sending single LAND packet to file server causes Windows explorer freezing on all workstations currently connected to the server. CPU on server goes 100%. Network monitor on the victim server sometimes can not even sniff malicious packet. Using tcpreplay to script this attack results in total collapse of the network. |
| 02:17.36 | CIA-3 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r7244 10xchat-gnome/fe-gnome/ (preferences-servers-page.c preferences-servers-page.h): move over to the new interface |
| 02:18.43 | kergoth | hmm.. so apparently my mom is getting her own apt, seperating from my stepdad |
| 02:18.43 | pagefault_ | hah |
| 02:18.48 | pagefault_ | the land attack is from the win95 days |
| 02:18.51 | ChipX86 | hrm |
| 02:20.39 | pagefault_ | Solution: |
| 02:20.39 | pagefault_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:20.39 | pagefault_ | attacks in front of your servers. |
| 02:20.39 | pagefault_ | Ethic: |
| 02:20.39 | pagefault_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:20.40 | pagefault_ | so I decided to share this info with security community. |
| 02:20.42 | pagefault_ | hah |
| 02:20.44 | pagefault_ | nice support there MS |
| 02:25.11 | purple_cow | hmm |
| 02:25.17 | purple_cow | i wonder if there are any good multitrackers for linux |
| 02:25.39 | scanline | you mean like the oldskool .mod trackers and such? |
| 02:27.02 | purple_cow | not really :P |
| 02:27.05 | purple_cow | i mean like protools |
| 02:27.17 | purple_cow | looks like beast does what i want, maybe |
| 02:29.08 | purple_cow | hrm, lots of stuff to upgrade on the desktop |
| 02:30.13 | ChipX86 | woah, lotsa new ubuntu packages today |
| 02:30.29 | ChipX86 | it disappoints me that they don't try to get new xscreensaver and dbus packages in faster |
| 02:30.34 | CIA-3 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r7245 10xchat-gnome/fe-gnome/ (10 files): finish up the networks page conversion |
| 02:31.08 | ChipX86 | but.. gnome 2.10 :D |
| 02:31.15 | ChipX86 | that was fast. |
| 02:32.23 | pagefault_ | ooh |
| 02:32.25 | pagefault_ | new gnome |
| 02:32.31 | ChipX86 | heh, this guy on ebay wants $20 for his broken gamecubes. $20 each. |
| 02:37.10 | CIA-3 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r7246 10xchat-gnome/fe-gnome/ (preferences-dialog.c xchat-gnome.glade): remove old page |
| 02:38.32 | purple_cow | time to cook myself dinner and then watch a movie |
| 02:41.03 | kergoth | bleh |
| 02:43.16 | ChipX86 | This is an absolutely gorgeous hack. |
| 02:43.19 | ChipX86 | Probably we will have to start talking about security issues in content |
| 02:43.22 | ChipX86 | +aggregators now though. |
| 02:43.37 | ChipX86 | one of the AbiWord guys |
| 02:45.21 | purple_cow | :) |
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| 03:03.49 | ChipX86 | I love the SG-1 episode where they switch bodies. They act like each other so well |
| 03:04.26 | KeyserSoze | yeah, they did a great job on that episode |
| 03:05.14 | scanline | purple_cow: got three rejection letters from siggraph :) |
| 03:05.28 | cwisty | doh |
| 03:05.31 | ChipX86 | :/ |
| 03:06.59 | scanline | not too surprising.. says there were over 1100 submissions this year |
| 03:07.08 | cwisty | wow |
| 03:07.11 | scanline | indeed |
| 03:07.39 | purple_cow | arr, silly nfs server |
| 03:07.59 | cwisty | reminds me of my application for an astro summer school in Rome for this summer at the vatican |
| 03:08.08 | cwisty | 32 people applied for 2 spots |
| 03:08.13 | cwisty | I wasn't one of the 2 they picked |
| 03:08.20 | cwisty | it happens, sorry guys |
| 03:08.36 | purple_cow | i'm pretty shocked we got in last year, actually |
| 03:09.06 | hardwire | when I get home |
| 03:09.08 | hardwire | I am eating a taco |
| 03:09.13 | purple_cow | hardwire: ok |
| 03:09.22 | pagefault_ | ChipX86, maybe might be worth it for the case |
| 03:09.27 | pagefault_ | so you can mod it for dvd-r |
| 03:10.55 | pagefault_ | hmm |
| 03:11.01 | pagefault_ | looks like the EU is getting software patents |
| 03:11.23 | hardwire | strike that |
| 03:11.23 | hardwire | when I get home.. I am going to the dentist.. because I broke a tooth |
| 03:11.23 | hardwire | then I will eat my taco |
| 03:11.45 | scanline | taco taco taco |
| 03:11.51 | purple_cow | mmm |
| 03:12.02 | purple_cow | it's been SO LONG since i last saw this movie :) |
| 03:12.07 | ChipX86 | pagefault_: heh, old news. We've been dealing with the idiocy on the gnome sites due to that |
| 03:12.15 | scanline | cwisty: yup. disappointing, but not unexpected |
| 03:12.25 | pagefault_ | it's annoying stuff |
| 03:13.34 | scanline | ChipX86: it's awful weird they would filter style attributes but not font or script tags |
| 03:14.08 | ChipX86 | yaeh |
| 03:14.20 | pagefault_ | the EU is just another version of the US |
| 03:14.45 | ChipX86 | eep |
| 03:14.48 | ChipX86 | dbus 0.31 is out |
| 03:14.48 | pagefault_ | blah |
| 03:14.50 | ChipX86 | where was 0.30 |
| 03:14.54 | pagefault_ | dunno |
| 03:14.58 | ChipX86 | there was no 0.30! |
| 03:15.00 | scanline | pagefault_: bad ideas are all too easy to reinvent |
| 03:15.08 | ChipX86 | and this is going to break everything |
| 03:15.30 | pagefault_ | not that it matters much though |
| 03:18.20 | pagefault_ | I really wouldn't care too much about software patents if they were handled properly |
| 03:18.28 | pagefault_ | but they aren't |
| 03:18.53 | kergoth | bleh |
| 03:18.56 | scanline | yeah- the problem isn't really software patents, it's patents being granted on stupid stuff because the patent office doesn't have a clue |
| 03:19.41 | purple_cow | they're both problems, really |
| 03:20.00 | scanline | they really need to do some kind of public peer review.. where the idea has some limited protection during the review, then it becomes either patented or not |
| 03:20.30 | purple_cow | there's no way they could afford that |
| 03:20.34 | scanline | yeah |
| 03:21.20 | purple_cow | it would be feasible if there were a lot fewer applications and it wasn't used as the profit machine it is |
| 03:22.38 | scanline | hmm |
| 03:22.48 | scanline | there are probably fields where the current patent system makes sense, but I can't think of any |
| 03:23.07 | hardwire | the feilds of jooooyyyyy |
| 03:23.10 | scanline | whoa |
| 03:23.17 | purple_cow | i don't think the current incarnation of the patent system makes sense anywhere |
| 03:23.23 | scanline | I just got a bunch of 'busy' packets while writing a big group of songs |
| 03:23.33 | scanline | my code handled them fine, but I'm not sure why it sent them |
| 03:23.58 | purple_cow | hurray for having another george lucas movie that doesn't suck |
| 03:24.09 | hardwire | which where? |
| 03:24.19 | purple_cow | THX1138, on navi |
| 03:24.24 | hardwire | ah |
| 03:24.29 | hardwire | its in my netflix queue |
| 03:24.38 | hardwire | I hadn't seen trailers for ep 3 until the other day |
| 03:24.46 | hardwire | and it was only for like 5 seconds |
| 03:24.48 | ChipX86 | http://webcitadel.com/temp/gaim.jpg |
| 03:24.48 | hardwire | he likes to hype |
| 03:24.53 | ChipX86 | someone wants that to be the new gaim account dialog |
| 03:25.05 | purple_cow | ChipX86: eww |
| 03:25.28 | pagefault_ | ugly |
| 03:26.06 | pagefault_ | looks like MS Access |
| 03:26.07 | pagefault_ | heh |
| 03:26.20 | hardwire | it is |
| 03:26.36 | hardwire | don't laugh at my drawrings! |
| 03:27.04 | pagefault_ | I don't know if it's a bug or not |
| 03:27.13 | pagefault_ | but when I tell gaim to reconnect it only does AIM |
| 03:27.18 | pagefault_ | and none of the other services |
| 03:27.34 | hardwire | I had that issue a long ass time ago |
| 03:27.55 | ChipX86 | you want the Reconnect All |
| 03:27.58 | ChipX86 | button |
| 03:28.57 | pagefault_ | ah |
| 03:29.07 | pagefault_ | I was reconnecting from the notification area |
| 03:34.35 | purple_cow | hmm |
| 03:34.51 | purple_cow | so beast looks like it's reasonably capable, but damn is it ugly |
| 03:41.31 | kergoth | bleh |
| 03:48.15 | kergoth | yay, looks like the swelling of my lip is finally just about gone |
| 03:48.53 | scanline | time for another piercing then? |
| 03:49.22 | kergoth | hehe. i think one will do for now |
| 03:50.47 | purple_cow | wow |
| 03:50.51 | purple_cow | rosegarden has come a LONG way |
| 03:56.49 | purple_cow | owww |
| 03:56.54 | purple_cow | i have to install all of kde =/ |
| 03:57.20 | pagefault_ | QT is annoying to work with |
| 03:58.25 | kergoth | i like qt, myself |
| 03:59.54 | pagefault_ | well it has some advantages but I am just so use to GTK |
| 04:12.06 | purple_cow | the snot just keeps coming :( |
| 04:46.02 | purple_cow | yep, that's a movie alright |
| 05:01.51 | ChipX86 | *grumble* |
| 05:02.18 | ChipX86 | parents who put fear in their children need to realize they're just doing harm. |
| 05:04.14 | purple_cow | ? |
| 05:04.56 | ChipX86 | Jamie's mom doesn't want her coming here |
| 05:05.03 | ChipX86 | she's telling her she might get raped on the way or something |
| 05:06.07 | kergoth | jeeze |
| 05:07.14 | kergoth | hrm |
| 05:07.39 | kergoth | 438 uberized downloaded albums that need verification and tagging, and then 1,075 albums of non-uberized downloads that need tagging |
| 05:08.04 | purple_cow | hehe |
| 05:08.23 | kergoth | so time consuming |
| 05:09.21 | ChipX86 | sigh |
| 05:09.26 | ChipX86 | I don't know what to do with galago |
| 05:09.31 | ChipX86 | do I release now, even if there may be bugs, or what.. |
| 05:09.48 | kergoth | do a release candidate perhaps? iron out the last kinks that way? |
| 05:10.29 | ChipX86 | well |
| 05:10.29 | ChipX86 | the next release has to be d-bus 0.31 compatible |
| 05:10.29 | ChipX86 | which means MAJOR changes |
| 05:10.29 | kergoth | ah. |
| 05:10.29 | ChipX86 | and breaking protocol compatibility |
| 05:10.29 | ChipX86 | slightly |
| 05:10.31 | ChipX86 | it's been so long |
| 05:10.34 | ChipX86 | people need something to at least hack against |
| 05:11.22 | KeyserSoze | my motherinlaw used to tell sophie that there were serial killers behind every tree |
| 05:11.38 | kergoth | okay, so its not an rc due to the major changes about to happen. just call it a "prerelease" version or something? |
| 05:11.51 | KeyserSoze | but at the same time let her go out and play by herself at the park or downtown (town of ~3000 people), when she was like 10 |
| 05:11.56 | kergoth | odd |
| 05:12.12 | ChipX86 | grrr |
| 05:12.15 | scanline | guh |
| 05:12.16 | ChipX86 | galago needs to get out |
| 05:12.25 | ChipX86 | and *nobody* will support dbus 0.31 for a while |
| 05:12.34 | scanline | some potential CIA user is upset that his messages would show up in #commits |
| 05:12.41 | scanline | ~whalestab CIA users |
| 05:12.43 | ChipX86 | :/ |
| 05:13.19 | purple_cow | what's wrong with #commits? |
| 05:13.20 | scanline | trying to explain that with CIA, the content providers have no bearing on how that content is actually used |
| 05:13.23 | scanline | that's up to the destinations |
| 05:13.27 | scanline | purple_cow: haven't pulled that out of him yet |
| 05:14.05 | scanline | <Anthony-> However back to the original question, I understand that the users in the various #commits channels wouldn't care if another project's messages started entering, but for logistical reasons it would be much easier without such broadcasts in my case |
| 05:14.05 | scanline | <Anthony-> Therefore, are you willing to restrict the broadcasts to one channel? |
| 05:14.05 | scanline | oh well. now he's asking me questions about installing his own CIA server |
| 05:14.14 | ChipX86 | tell him he's an idiot and to fark off |
| 05:14.26 | ChipX86 | if it's good for the linux kernel and gnome, it's good enough for him |
| 05:14.29 | darth_mall | tell him he's a terd |
| 05:14.29 | ChipX86 | but I'm in a bad mood, so.. |
| 05:14.34 | darth_mall | ~cpr ChipX86 |
| 05:14.37 | jbot | ChipX86: <smoochu> :-* |
| 05:15.08 | kergoth | yay, fark off |
| 05:19.34 | scanline | hah. I referred him to the README and I think he's leaving |
| 05:19.57 | cwisty | reading? you mean I have to READ? |
| 05:20.03 | scanline | :) |
| 05:20.19 | scanline | well, I think he's actually trying to install it now... but I find it funny that he's going to assume he'll find everything he needs in there |
| 05:20.29 | darth_mall | computers aren't about reading! |
| 05:20.33 | scanline | we both know there's pretty much no documentation on setting up a CIA server, since almost nobody has to do it |
| 05:20.37 | darth_mall | they're about porn, and hacking! |
| 05:20.50 | scanline | yep |
| 05:20.53 | purple_cow | grr |
| 05:20.57 | KeyserSoze | hacking without reading, like in warcraft, or diablo |
| 05:20.58 | purple_cow | why won't sound work? :( |
| 05:21.04 | darth_mall | purple_cow: =\ |
| 05:21.13 | KeyserSoze | purple_cow: i unplugged your speakers, sorry |
| 05:21.20 | darth_mall | KeyserSoze: that was mean |
| 05:21.22 | kergoth | why am i so damn tired all of a sudden |
| 05:21.26 | KeyserSoze | i said sorry! |
| 05:21.27 | darth_mall | kergoth: lack of sleep? |
| 05:21.34 | scanline | hmm, sleep |
| 05:21.35 | KeyserSoze | kergoth: i drugged your drink, sorry |
| 05:21.40 | kergoth | nope, been getting a decent amount |
| 05:21.44 | kergoth | KeyserSoze: that explains it. damnit |
| 05:21.58 | darth_mall | kergoth: not enough exercise? |
| 05:22.09 | purple_cow | KeyserSoze: inside my laptop? |
| 05:22.17 | darth_mall | purple_cow: he's got magic fingers |
| 05:22.21 | kergoth | definately not getting enough exercise. my energy is low in general |
| 05:22.21 | darth_mall | and not the good kind that cost a quarter |
| 05:22.23 | kergoth | need to fix that |
| 05:22.36 | kergoth | should take advantage of the fitness center at the ti campus |
| 05:22.51 | kergoth | or take JKD back up |
| 05:23.05 | KeyserSoze | jeet koon do? |
| 05:23.11 | darth_mall | lol |
| 05:23.11 | KeyserSoze | or however Bruce Lee spelled it? |
| 05:23.14 | darth_mall | kun |
| 05:23.42 | kergoth | mm, scotch |
| 05:24.57 | darth_mall | kergoth: remind me where in texas you are? |
| 05:25.03 | kergoth | dallas |
| 05:25.15 | darth_mall | hmmm... I think that's where Pancho is |
| 05:26.45 | darth_mall | goddammit |
| 05:26.50 | darth_mall | the archives won't let me in |
| 05:26.59 | purple_cow | uh oh |
| 05:27.11 | purple_cow | barbara bain just pulled out the ultimate insult to a science fiction character |
| 05:27.12 | KeyserSoze | hehe |
| 05:27.19 | purple_cow | "you're beginning to talk like a computer!" |
| 05:27.41 | KeyserSoze | a couple days ago at work everyone was talking about how they got an email about upcoming performance reviews |
| 05:27.49 | KeyserSoze | and i said i didn't get one of those |
| 05:28.03 | KeyserSoze | then i added that i haven't gotten my last couple paychecks |
| 05:28.16 | KeyserSoze | and after a pause, i asked if they had seen my stapler |
| 05:28.22 | kergoth | haha |
| 05:28.24 | kergoth | nice |
| 05:28.25 | scanline | haha |
| 05:28.29 | darth_mall | lol |
| 05:28.35 | ChipX86 | grr, why doesn't gnome know the snes mimetypes |
| 05:28.45 | KeyserSoze | and the person sitting next to me, without skipping a beat, said they saw it in the basement, and asked if i could take care of the bug problem while i was down there |
| 05:29.14 | scanline | :) |
| 05:29.29 | darth_mall | heh |
| 05:29.33 | purple_cow | always with the giggling! |
| 05:29.45 | cwisty | yeah I giggle a lot |
| 05:29.48 | cwisty | I'm a gurl |
| 05:29.49 | darth_mall | giggling, hot, and porn showers! |
| 05:29.49 | cwisty | we do that |
| 05:29.54 | cwisty | yup |
| 05:29.58 | cwisty | hot porn showers |
| 05:30.03 | scanline | mmmm |
| 05:30.03 | cwisty | remember I don't konw how to use commas |
| 05:30.14 | kergoth | giggling in hot porn showers? works for me |
| 05:30.14 | darth_mall | so tonight at capoeira I called this combo that larry did "hot" and everyone looked at me like I was nuts |
| 05:30.22 | kergoth | hah |
| 05:30.29 | cwisty | haha |
| 05:30.34 | purple_cow | haha |
| 05:30.35 | KeyserSoze | capoeira? is that that giant south american rodent? |
| 05:30.38 | scanline | hehe |
| 05:30.38 | cwisty | it only works if you're cute |
| 05:30.44 | cwisty | hahah |
| 05:30.49 | darth_mall | are you implying I'm not cute? |
| 05:30.50 | cwisty | I"m infecting the WORLD! |
| 05:30.53 | cwisty | hehe |
| 05:31.00 | cwisty | you're not cute in a girly way |
| 05:31.00 | darth_mall | at least scanline still loves me |
| 05:31.06 | cwisty | the way necessary for hot to work |
| 05:31.21 | darth_mall | ooooh, thanks |
| 05:31.33 | darth_mall | scanline: ok, I'll go save your dog |
| 05:31.36 | cwisty | well glad to know my little sphere of influence is growong |
| 05:31.36 | scanline | yay |
| 05:31.40 | kergoth | ehhe |
| 05:33.16 | numist | ... |
| 05:33.40 | darth_mall | ... ... |
| 05:34.02 | KeyserSoze | ... ... ... |
| 05:34.05 | darth_mall | ... |
| 05:34.06 | scanline | ! |
| 05:34.16 | numist | !# |
| 05:34.17 | kergoth | ? |
| 05:34.20 | numist | erm.. #! |
| 05:34.41 | numist | haha |
| 05:34.42 | KeyserSoze | wait, is that even close to what it's called? |
| 05:34.52 | numist | did you mean pascal's? |
| 05:35.17 | KeyserSoze | probably |
| 05:35.26 | darth_mall | uhoh |
| 05:35.31 | darth_mall | who unbanned rocko? |
| 05:35.46 | purple_cow | he changed his username |
| 05:35.54 | kergoth | who's rocko? |
| 05:36.03 | KeyserSoze | he's those we don't speak of |
| 05:36.06 | darth_mall | kergoth: join #xchat-gnome and find out |
| 05:36.08 | purple_cow | kergoth: one of #xchat-gnome's resident assclowns |
| 05:36.26 | KeyserSoze | we have never questioned the gentle understanding we have between us, and those who live outside our channel |
| 05:36.27 | darth_mall | not so much resident, since he usually ends up getting banned, which kills his residency |
| 05:36.47 | kergoth | ah |
| 05:36.52 | darth_mall | native, perhaps |
| 05:36.55 | darth_mall | persistent, yes |
| 05:37.13 | purple_cow | "regular" |
| 05:37.18 | darth_mall | also a good word |
| 05:37.26 | kergoth | you'd think people like that would realize people really dont like them around |
| 05:37.45 | kergoth | that reminds me of 'fishhead', who's infamous on not just a number of channels, but a number of irc networks as well |
| 05:38.12 | scanline | guh. what a loser |
| 05:38.12 | KeyserSoze | doh! that's my name when i'm not on openprojects! |
| 05:38.12 | darth_mall | or Diablo-D3 |
| 05:38.43 | purple_cow | scanline: ? |
| 05:38.49 | darth_mall | scanline: ! |
| 05:38.55 | scanline | fishhead |
| 05:38.58 | purple_cow | ohh |
| 05:39.03 | purple_cow | i thought you were still talking to that cia guy |
| 05:39.07 | scanline | no |
| 05:39.10 | darth_mall | scanline: ; |
| 05:39.32 | darth_mall | yay! coneheads on family feud! |
| 05:39.36 | darth_mall | old school SNL is great |
| 05:41.13 | darth_mall | we need some o' that |
| 05:43.14 | purple_cow | i love how all the planets in this show look like marbles |
| 05:43.26 | darth_mall | marbles are awesome! |
| 05:43.43 | CIA-3 | galago: 03chipx86 * r1520 10libgalago/ (5 files in 3 dirs): Make make distcheck work. |
| 05:44.43 | CIA-3 | galago: 03chipx86 * r1521 10libgalago-gtk/ (5 files in 3 dirs): Fix make distcheck. |
| 05:45.57 | ChipX86 | are we going to end up hooking up #devlounge to cia? |
| 05:46.21 | numist | that would be scary |
| 05:46.27 | scanline | if folks are interested in it. I'd rather not push for it myself, since it might seem like a conflict of interest or something |
| 05:46.34 | ChipX86 | nod |
| 05:46.59 | kergoth | i'd be interested in it. might liven the place up a bit |
| 05:47.00 | kergoth | heh |
| 05:47.04 | scanline | hehe |
| 05:47.09 | ChipX86 | might |
| 05:47.15 | numist | yeah, kind of a dead channel |
| 05:47.47 | kergoth | it doesnt help that we keep bs'ing in here |
| 05:47.50 | kergoth | hehe |
| 05:47.53 | CIA-3 | galago: 03chipx86 * r1522 10galago-daemon/ (ChangeLog Makefile.am galago-daemon.conf): Fix make distcheck. And what the hell? |
| 05:48.32 | darth_mall | =D |
| 05:48.32 | scanline | yeah |
| 05:48.46 | ChipX86 | same |
| 05:49.17 | scanline | it's also a place you can invite non-developer people, where as #devlounge might be kind of weird to use that way |
| 05:49.25 | darth_mall | also... pants |
| 05:49.30 | scanline | no pants |
| 05:49.32 | darth_mall | and lemon curry |
| 05:49.40 | KeyserSoze | no pants in #devlounge? |
| 05:49.45 | scanline | no pants here |
| 05:49.47 | KeyserSoze | luckily i am already complying |
| 05:49.48 | scanline | that's what makes it homey |
| 05:49.59 | KeyserSoze | got that (un)covered, as well |
| 05:50.14 | darth_mall | @familyguy |
| 05:50.15 | kbot | darth_mall: <Chris> Dad, what's the blow-hole for? <Peter> I'll tell you what it's not for, son. And when I do, you'll understand why I can never go back to Sea World. |
| 05:50.19 | kergoth | hehe |
| 05:50.22 | KeyserSoze | rofl |
| 05:50.24 | darth_mall | damn you kbot! that's not the right quote! |
| 05:50.25 | CIA-3 | galago: 03chipx86 * r1523 10gnome-presence-applet/ (4 files in 3 dirs): Fix make distcheck. |
| 05:50.33 | numist | sheesh ChipX86 |
| 05:50.38 | numist | busy night |
| 05:50.44 | kergoth | darth_mall: the plugin we're using actually lets you query by index. |
| 05:50.46 | ChipX86 | in a bad mood. I code when in a bad mood. |
| 05:50.50 | kergoth | @familyguy 5 |
| 05:50.50 | kbot | kergoth: <Lois> I care about the size of your penis as much as you care about the size of my breasts. <Peter> Oh my God! (runs off crying) |
| 05:50.53 | numist | ChipX86: whats wrong? |
| 05:50.53 | kergoth | @familyguy 5 |
| 05:50.54 | kbot | kergoth: <Lois> I care about the size of your penis as much as you care about the size of my breasts. <Peter> Oh my God! (runs off crying) |
| 05:50.59 | KeyserSoze | i got to use "i don't think everyone likes feet as much as you do" conversationally a few days ago |
| 05:50.59 | ChipX86 | doesn't matter. |
| 05:51.00 | kergoth | heh |
| 05:52.57 | scanline | hrm |
| 05:53.01 | darth_mall | KeyserSoze: awesome |
| 05:53.26 | darth_mall | scanline: you can take a hot porn shower |
| 05:53.28 | darth_mall | that might help |
| 05:54.06 | CIA-3 | navi-misc: 03micah * r7247 10rio-karma/python/RioKarma/SSDP.py: Yay, an SSDP server that doesn't work |
| 05:54.22 | kergoth | yay |
| 05:54.28 | kergoth | bleh, bored |
| 05:55.01 | darth_mall | silly kergoth |
| 05:55.06 | darth_mall | do some backflips |
| 05:56.12 | purple_cow | dammit i want sound :( |
| 05:56.45 | KeyserSoze | darth_mall: that wasn't my little pony, was it? |
| 05:56.47 | numist | doesn't matter... right.. well, as long as its going toward something useful.. |
| 05:57.23 | darth_mall | KeyserSoze: no |
| 05:57.37 | darth_mall | KeyserSoze: it's an invisible, incorporeal pony |
| 05:57.50 | darth_mall | check your pockets |
| 05:58.02 | scanline | or my pockets? |
| 05:58.05 | CIA-3 | galago: 03chipx86 * r1524 10galago-gtk-sharp/ (ChangeLog galago-gtk/Makefile.am): Fix make distcheck. |
| 06:01.11 | KeyserSoze | like say, there were a whole shitload of scarves, and if there were only 3 more, it would have been infinite |
| 06:01.37 | purple_cow | KeyserSoze: maybe trans-finite? |
| 06:01.41 | numist | ... |
| 06:01.50 | numist | if there were 3 more it would be infinite? that makes no sense! |
| 06:03.48 | darth_mall | hehe |
| 06:04.02 | darth_mall | KeyserSoze: did you find this nigh infinite scarf in your pockets, or scanline's? |
| 06:04.17 | KeyserSoze | mine, but i never discovered where the other end went |
| 06:05.05 | KeyserSoze | perhaps if scanline had the other end in his pocket through some sort of tunnel through space time, and *his* end was infinite as well, we'd have a transfinite number of scarves? |
| 06:06.13 | purple_cow | transfinite are larger than any whole number but not infinite |
| 06:07.31 | KeyserSoze | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transfinite |
| 06:08.36 | purple_cow | it's kind of a funny concept :) |
| 06:09.42 | ChipX86 | http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=dn7081 |
| 06:11.23 | numist | indeed |
| 06:11.39 | KeyserSoze | but, if there were an infinite number of people, then the total number of scarves would be bigger than our individual seqeunces of scarves |
| 06:12.11 | KeyserSoze | except, how can more than two people have a section of the sequence of scarves, if everyone has to pull and end out of their pocket? |
| 06:12.22 | KeyserSoze | it wouldn't be one sequence then, would it? |
| 06:12.38 | KeyserSoze | s/and end/an end/ |
| 06:12.56 | *** join/#tacobeam Secret|gone (SecretMeth@uac-182-89.uac-resnet.depaul.edu) |
| 06:13.13 | numist | hey Secret |
| 06:14.37 | KeyserSoze | is the "lasts 10 times as long" meaning that you can discharge it for 10 times as long, or that it'll survive 10 times as many charge/discharge cycles? |
| 06:14.54 | KeyserSoze | the first would mean it's got 10 times as much energy in it, which is what i'd prefer |
| 06:15.15 | KeyserSoze | but i don't think that's what they mean... |
| 06:15.33 | darth_mall | turkey? |
| 06:15.56 | numist | KeyserSoze: pretty sure they mean each charge lasts 10x longer, but you can charge it only 1/10th as often before its useless |
| 06:17.15 | KeyserSoze | hehe. after hearing darth_mall say 'turkey', i remembered the line from the Usual Suspects, where someone mentions the rumor that my name sake was turkish |
| 06:17.25 | darth_mall | KeyserSoze: =D |
| 06:17.26 | darth_mall | great film |
| 06:17.34 | KeyserSoze | after a short google, it turns out that "Soze" is turkish for "talks too much" |
| 06:17.37 | darth_mall | mmm... sometimes I forget what a good album The Nylon Curtain is |
| 06:17.57 | darth_mall | I'll be "keyser" is a form of caesar |
| 06:18.07 | KeyserSoze | darth_mall: yep, you are right |
| 06:18.10 | darth_mall | ^^ |
| 06:19.17 | darth_mall | that makes me feel a little better about myself |
| 06:19.22 | darth_mall | ^^ |
| 06:20.29 | ChipX86 | gnome guy |
| 06:20.31 | KeyserSoze | the name sounds kind of indian, doesn't it? |
| 06:20.38 | ChipX86 | good guess |
| 06:20.45 | purple_cow | his full name is sriram |
| 06:21.36 | purple_cow | heh |
| 06:21.41 | KeyserSoze | it might actually be in worst taste to make the joke here though, instead of in the other channel |
| 06:22.21 | darth_mall | purple_cow: did you ever get printing working again on kirby? |
| 06:22.40 | purple_cow | darth_mall: there was something wonky with the printer last time i tried |
| 06:22.44 | ChipX86 | I feel like just working on vmware |
| 06:22.50 | ChipX86 | but I think I'll play FF6 |
| 06:23.06 | darth_mall | well... it can't hurt to try printing |
| 06:23.12 | ChipX86 | can too |
| 06:23.18 | darth_mall | =( |
| 06:23.24 | numist | have fun, ChipX86, feel better |
| 06:23.44 | ChipX86 | not leaving. I haven't purchased an SNES yet |
| 06:26.00 | kergoth | bleh. tired |
| 06:27.54 | purple_cow | GRRRRR |
| 06:28.10 | purple_cow | i haven't had this much trouble getting alsa to work since early 2.4 :PO |
| 06:29.01 | lurgy | eek |
| 06:29.05 | lurgy | it's a goofy angry face |
| 06:30.13 | purple_cow | it's detecting the device, i've got a mixer |
| 06:30.15 | purple_cow | just no output |
| 06:30.19 | KeyserSoze | and, the letters "PO" can mean "pissed off", which is synonomous with angry |
| 06:30.28 | numist | ChipX86: which FF? you must have really liked 6... if you find a place that sells snes', save the name/number I need to get an snes and F-Zero when Im back in town |
| 06:30.48 | purple_cow | KeyserSoze: or a typo |
| 06:31.31 | ChipX86 | numist: which FF? 6. I'm a bit confused by that question :) I'll probably get an actual copy on ebay. Just going to use zsnes for now |
| 06:31.36 | ChipX86 | which is why I want pagefault on here.. |
| 06:31.49 | darth_mall | blah |
| 06:31.51 | darth_mall | silly printer |
| 06:32.01 | darth_mall | you're supposed to print things, not abort jobs |
| 06:32.02 | numist | ChipX86: ah, ok.. yeah, I read the backlog as I typed... saw snes first :P |
| 06:32.06 | KeyserSoze | if you tried to type "typo", and inadvertantly typed ":po" (which, admittedly is hard to suppose), then you'd have a typo of the word type, that is easily misconstrued for angry face spelled with the letters PO, which is in itself a pun |
| 06:32.24 | numist | ChipX86: on the same note though, know any game shops in the area that would have the older stuff? |
| 06:32.31 | lurgy | night cwisty |
| 06:32.32 | ChipX86 | no |
| 06:32.35 | numist | damn |
| 06:32.36 | darth_mall | cwisty: no porn shower? |
| 06:32.44 | cwisty | not tonight |
| 06:32.45 | cwisty | sorry babe |
| 06:33.00 | lurgy | ugh, opera performance week is gonna suck |
| 06:33.08 | lurgy | s/is gonna/is teh/ |
| 06:33.09 | darth_mall | lurgy: no it's not! |
| 06:33.18 | lurgy | darth_mall: yes, yes it is :) |
| 06:34.50 | darth_mall | dammit... I should have been in bed an hour ago |
| 06:35.38 | darth_mall | night folks |
| 06:36.58 | ChipX86 | bah intro story. I just want to level. |
| 06:37.11 | ChipX86 | and zsnes should NOT crsah when I want to save state |
| 06:37.18 | lurgy | heh |
| 06:37.30 | lurgy | darth_mall: "see" is a very strong word here |
| 06:37.32 | lurgy | :P |
| 06:39.44 | lurgy | buried from sight |
| 06:40.19 | ChipX86 | 6EFF3239 is an ethernet address |
| 06:40.29 | ChipX86 | you need ethernet addresses to connect to a server to talk to people in chats |
| 06:40.36 | ChipX86 | tv says so |
| 06:40.56 | numist | ... |
| 06:41.06 | numist | what tv says this? |
| 06:41.11 | ChipX86 | and if you find an encrypted file, print it out, you can decrypt it later |
| 06:41.28 | ChipX86 | my tv |
| 06:41.50 | numist | wow, your tv is stupid |
| 06:42.15 | numist | everyone knows you dont have to print it out, just put a photocopier against the screen, its safer from viruses used to protect the files! |
| 06:42.41 | numist | you cant put the monitor against a photocopier though, if you move the monitor you might scramble the data |
| 06:43.47 | lurgy | i don't think i've had the pleasure.. |
| 06:43.52 | numist | nope, nor have I |
| 06:43.59 | numist | howdy |
| 06:44.03 | lurgy | hiya |
| 06:44.15 | lurgy | how did you find yourself 'round these parts |
| 06:44.35 | numist | Ive got ChipX86 to thank for that |
| 06:44.54 | numist | at least, as far as #tacobeam and #devlounge are concerned |
| 06:44.56 | ChipX86 | he's from the same group of people as cheers, juan, and Secret |
| 06:45.08 | lurgy | ah |
| 06:45.08 | lurgy | yay |
| 06:45.20 | lurgy | good respectable group |
| 06:45.26 | numist | really? we have a reputation? |
| 06:45.27 | numist | nice |
| 06:45.40 | ChipX86 | you wouldn;t say that if you knew where they were from! |
| 06:45.53 | numist | haha, hey, now ChipX86, we've changed roots since then :P |
| 06:45.56 | ChipX86 | :) |
| 06:47.52 | numist | so yeah, I write random snippets of code and annoy people on IRC |
| 06:47.53 | lurgy | hehe |
| 06:48.19 | ChipX86 | ok, now to test if zsnes will properly save my saved game |
| 06:48.28 | numist | hope so |
| 06:48.30 | ChipX86 | if it doesn't, I'm going to beat pagefault to a pulp |
| 06:48.31 | purple_cow | aaaargh |
| 06:49.52 | ChipX86 | that pagefault is a lucky guy. |
| 06:51.13 | numist | haha nice |
| 06:54.51 | purple_cow | why the fuck can't it just work |
| 06:57.13 | ChipX86 | the rio needs an alarm clock mode |
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| 07:23.03 | ChipX86 | the new orbitz commercials irritate me |
| 07:25.45 | file | ugh, so... Digium got none of their demo stuff that was shipped |
| 07:25.55 | file | we went out lastnight and bought machines from Fry's |
| 07:26.05 | file | and did our networking, demo apps/logic, all today |
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| 07:39.00 | purple_cow | "here's the pizza," I'd say, "I didn't order any," they'd say, and then I'd be off to my next adventure! |
| 07:39.00 | purple_cow | for starters, only use quality ingredients. case-in-point: no more live bees. oregano works equally well |
| 07:39.00 | purple_cow | numist: shame on you :P |
| 07:39.17 | purple_cow | whoa, lots of irc latency |
| 07:42.46 | rioter | and when you put pizza's in the oven dont get in with them |
| 07:44.02 | numist | purple_cow: ??? |
| 07:44.14 | purple_cow | numist: sorry, lag misunderstandings :P |
| 07:44.26 | numist | uhm.. that must have been some hellish lag... |
| 07:46.02 | purple_cow | yep |
| 07:46.35 | numist | thats 50 minutes of lag! |
| 07:47.02 | purple_cow | naw, i was misinterpreting one of your statements based on what i had been saying at the time |
| 07:47.30 | numist | ah |
| 07:48.03 | numist | well, time for sleep.. (yeah.. right) |
| 07:48.06 | numist | later |
| 07:52.12 | purple_cow | hehe, yay for zoidberg's slinky |
| 08:14.39 | purple_cow | bah, new kernel didn't solve my alsa problem |
| 08:14.43 | purple_cow | and rosegarden is segfaulting :( |
| 08:17.48 | *** topic/#tacobeam by purple_cow -> There's only one way back into a woman's heart and parts beyond: karaoke |
| 08:26.42 | purple_cow | hahaha, cool |
| 08:26.52 | purple_cow | gnome.org now has that javascript snippet :) |
| 08:26.59 | ChipX86 | :) |
| 08:27.11 | ChipX86 | nice |
| 08:28.41 | purple_cow | i never thought i'd die this way! but i'd always kinda hoped... |
| 08:43.40 | purple_cow | i don't pretend to understand brannigan's law, i just enforce it! |
| 08:44.11 | ChipX86 | "Supporting ESX is in many ways a black art. Just take it as it comes and don't freak out. The not freaking out is probably the hardest part." |
| 08:49.55 | purple_cow | heh |
| 08:55.28 | purple_cow | ooh |
| 08:55.31 | purple_cow | sexy new tarballs list :) |
| 08:55.45 | purple_cow | evo 2.2 :) |
| 08:56.01 | ChipX86 | been running it |
| 08:56.23 | ChipX86 | ran into a weird bug, but the copy was a little old |
| 08:56.40 | purple_cow | granted, it probably wouldn't eat my mail, but that's not a risk i can afford to take :P |
| 08:56.50 | ChipX86 | see, it's barely a risk for me |
| 08:56.53 | ChipX86 | sure I use it for everything at work |
| 08:57.02 | ChipX86 | but see, we have these crappy Exchange e-mail servers that are always down |
| 08:57.09 | ChipX86 | so it doesn't really matter all that much if Evolution ever dies |
| 08:57.56 | purple_cow | heh |
| 09:00.23 | ChipX86 | I can't get rid of this crappy mood |
| 09:03.31 | purple_cow | it's amazing how often eugenia gets scolded :P |
| 09:03.37 | ChipX86 | yep |
| 09:08.29 | ChipX86 | I told this guy in #vmware that we want to eventually make vmware-config.pl graphical |
| 09:08.41 | ChipX86 | he said that has to be optional, because you shouldn't need X to configure vmware |
| 09:08.51 | ChipX86 | which is extremely stupid, considering VMware is an X app |
| 09:09.43 | purple_cow | yep |
| 09:10.25 | ChipX86 | I explained this to him |
| 09:10.25 | ChipX86 | he thinks it's a bad idea |
| 09:10.25 | ChipX86 | I told him when you start VMware, ideally, it would say it needs to rebuild something and do it |
| 09:10.27 | ChipX86 | he says running root apps in non-root X is a major pain |
| 09:10.40 | purple_cow | hah |
| 09:11.11 | purple_cow | did you point out that the X part of things doesn't need to be running as root? :P |
| 09:11.16 | purple_cow | or that it's really easy? |
| 09:11.19 | ChipX86 | I'm trying to explain gnomesu and stuff. He just now tried to run a root app in X and said it wouldn't work. I pointed out that he did it wrong. |
| 09:11.22 | ChipX86 | yes |
| 09:11.26 | ChipX86 | but he's smarter than me |
| 09:11.32 | purple_cow | ah, of course |
| 09:12.16 | ChipX86 | now he claims the evo exchange plugin doesn't work |
| 09:16.52 | ChipX86 | 01:16:29 < Koffa> took some hours to get rid of the gnome and other |
| 09:16.55 | ChipX86 | he's one of THOSE guys |
| 09:16.58 | ChipX86 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 15:23.41 | scanline | brrrr |
| 15:35.16 | scanline | blah, bathroom needs to become more empty so I can shower |
| 15:36.16 | scanline | blah! |
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| 15:38.20 | scanline | mornin GarlicWarrior |
| 15:38.24 | GarlicWarrior | morning |
| 15:38.35 | GarlicWarrior | did you take mysql off of Rex? |
| 15:38.44 | scanline | no |
| 15:38.54 | scanline | it might have not started up correctly after the reboot |
| 15:39.02 | scanline | something's really flaky with rex's init scripts |
| 15:39.15 | GarlicWarrior | it's a little buggy as of late |
| 15:39.24 | scanline | yeah |
| 15:39.41 | scanline | we might just move the whole thing to navi anyway. I can do a dump/load of the database and copy all the converted images |
| 15:40.02 | GarlicWarrior | I was just using the pages on Rex to finish the test, but the database accessing pages are down |
| 15:40.04 | GarlicWarrior | of course |
| 15:40.12 | GarlicWarrior | because mysql isn't up |
| 15:40.19 | scanline | I might be able to do that during OOP class, worst case at noon or so after my lab at noon or so |
| 15:40.27 | scanline | need to get ready to go now though |
| 15:40.31 | GarlicWarrior | k |
| 15:40.35 | GarlicWarrior | did you start the mysql? |
| 15:40.35 | scanline | but mysql should be up, at least for now |
| 15:40.40 | GarlicWarrior | k thanks |
| 15:41.21 | scanline | er, must be tired.. I'm repeating parts of things |
| 15:41.31 | GarlicWarrior | me too |
| 15:41.37 | scanline | nah, I got enough sleep.. shouldn't be tired. I'm just not awake yet |
| 15:41.59 | GarlicWarrior | hehe |
| 15:42.56 | darth_mall | hrm... |
| 15:43.00 | darth_mall | scanline, purple_cow: coffee? |
| 15:46.12 | darth_mall | wish I knew why my clock applet wasn't loading |
| 15:46.35 | darth_mall | makes me sad |
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| 15:51.23 | darth_mall | hmm... this is looking like one of those days where I try and replace food intake with caffeine |
| 15:53.48 | scanline | bah, I should eat breakfast today |
| 15:53.54 | scanline | been forgetting to eat a lot the last few days again |
| 15:54.22 | darth_mall | scanline: you can eat those potato chips that amy didn't finish yesterday |
| 15:58.50 | purple_cow | darth_mall: err, you mean the toenail clippings? |
| 15:59.04 | darth_mall | a feast is a feast |
| 16:01.38 | darth_mall | hehe |
| 16:01.53 | darth_mall | the guys in #mpd have a really lame version of CIA in their channel called wisebot ^^ |
| 16:02.01 | scanline | lame? |
| 16:02.20 | darth_mall | the commits it reports are formatted less pretty |
| 16:02.33 | purple_cow | i can be cruel, i don't know why.... |
| 16:02.39 | darth_mall | it's not actually CIA, I shouldn't have said it was a version of CIA |
| 16:02.57 | darth_mall | it also tells you the title of a webpage everytime you say a url |
| 16:03.05 | purple_cow | ooh, i love bots that do that |
| 16:03.26 | purple_cow | does it give you a tinyurl if the one it sees is too long? |
| 16:03.27 | darth_mall | and pointed them to #commits |
| 16:03.39 | darth_mall | purple_cow: dunno |
| 16:04.22 | scanline | most people that already have a commit-announcing bot respond to CIA in about the same way |
| 16:04.33 | scanline | "I did it in 15 lines of code, why should I use this bloated pile of crap?" |
| 16:04.41 | darth_mall | scanline: I just let them know about it, since it's used by so many people |
| 16:04.51 | scanline | nod |
| 16:04.57 | darth_mall | but they hadn't heard of it |
| 16:05.01 | scanline | ah |
| 16:05.17 | purple_cow | time for school |
| 16:05.29 | darth_mall | showed 'em #commits and the webpage and then I let it go |
| 16:05.35 | darth_mall | purple_cow: bleh! |
| 16:05.51 | darth_mall | we should kill school! |
| 16:07.15 | scanline | wow. that bagel was more food than my stomach was expecting... |
| 16:22.31 | file | hey kergoth |
| 16:36.32 | scanline | huh.. CIA-12? |
| 16:37.51 | purple_cow | grumble |
| 16:37.56 | purple_cow | planet gnome is still black :P |
| 16:39.32 | scanline | grumble! |
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| 16:53.34 | slimspace | ok, cool |
| 16:53.43 | scanline | spiffy in that high power dissipation way... |
| 16:54.26 | scanline | hah. dynamic languages are 'experimental' now |
| 16:54.32 | purple_cow | python is experimental damnit! |
| 16:54.35 | scanline | oh |
| 16:54.36 | scanline | ok |
| 16:54.48 | scanline | and smalltalk.. scheme... probably lots of others |
| 16:55.06 | scanline | if it ain't java or C++, must be experimental and for hippies only |
| 16:55.53 | purple_cow | yep |
| 16:56.32 | purple_cow | yay for emerge syncs being IO limited |
| 16:57.23 | scanline | hmm |
| 16:57.25 | darth_mall | yay hippies |
| 16:57.33 | scanline | that implementation of the State pattern looks fairly useful |
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| 16:57.56 | scanline | that's a lot like the way I usually implement it in python, except that each state object happens to be a BoundMethod object :P |
| 16:58.05 | purple_cow | it's a neat idea, but once again, his example is pretty poor |
| 16:58.13 | scanline | we should draw our diagrams so that every method is an object |
| 16:58.17 | darth_mall | examples are for chumps! |
| 16:58.22 | scanline | and then we can show how a BoundMethod is created then called |
| 16:58.32 | scanline | and we can show the method pointing to its code object |
| 16:58.32 | slimspace | hehe |
| 16:58.41 | purple_cow | sicko |
| 16:58.45 | darth_mall | porno |
| 16:59.01 | darth_mall | porn showers for everyone! |
| 16:59.22 | scanline | oh no, bug |
| 16:59.34 | darth_mall | oh no, hit |
| 16:59.34 | scanline | purple_cow: were you missing your net connection when it loaded? |
| 16:59.39 | scanline | it won't retry loading the sources list currently |
| 16:59.39 | purple_cow | yes |
| 16:59.49 | purple_cow | that would explain it |
| 17:00.05 | scanline | yay, iterators |
| 17:00.08 | darth_mall | http://img.penny-arcade.com/2005/20050307l.jpg |
| 17:00.18 | scanline | it's like another of those things that should be built in to all languages |
| 17:00.25 | darth_mall | pish posh! |
| 17:02.16 | slimspace | scanline: opinion...For setting things like coil currents, should we have a new Observable.State that can take arbitrary values and pass them to a single state-changing function? |
| 17:02.37 | slimspace | We could implement that into just an observable.value, but that makes it harder to integrate it into the ground softwar. |
| 17:02.47 | slimspace | s/softwar/software/ |
| 17:04.02 | scanline | slimspace: actually, I bet we don't need a new class.. just an Observable.Value that sets up an observer on itself to actually implement the change |
| 17:04.21 | scanline | the whole point of an Observable.State is that there are a finite number of states |
| 17:04.24 | scanline | that's why it subclasses Enum |
| 17:04.28 | slimspace | right |
| 17:04.36 | slimspace | so we could set something similar up to subclass Value instead |
| 17:04.58 | purple_cow | i never cease to be disgusted by the built-in java interfaces |
| 17:05.01 | scanline | yeah. an Observable.Actuator would be nice, but I think it will mostly end up being for documentation purposes, and it won't override much if anything from Value |
| 17:05.12 | slimspace | true |
| 17:05.36 | scanline | it also depends on the semantics we want for applying changes |
| 17:05.40 | slimspace | well, it'd be easy to implement anyway, and having the separate class would make it easy for the ground software to figure out what's going on. |
| 17:05.55 | scanline | true, plus it would let us implement asynchronous semantics for change |
| 17:06.05 | scanline | just the same thing State does- make value read-only, then setValue returns a deferred |
| 17:06.15 | slimspace | exactly |
| 17:06.17 | scanline | yep |
| 17:06.25 | scanline | then the changed event only fires when setValue finishes successfully |
| 17:06.38 | scanline | rather than being called at some arbitrary time before the change is actually made, like a Value would do |
| 17:06.47 | slimspace | yup |
| 17:07.00 | slimspace | cool, so I'll put the semantics into the proceedure and make the appropriate changes. |
| 17:07.04 | scanline | slimspace: this design we've got continues to make me warm and fuzzy inside |
| 17:07.06 | scanline | or maybe it's this coffee |
| 17:07.11 | slimspace | scanline: :) |
| 17:07.29 | scanline | hmm |
| 17:07.34 | scanline | maybe I should be doing this in screen' |
| 17:07.38 | scanline | would suck if my laptop died right now |
| 17:08.27 | darth_mall | =( |
| 17:08.31 | purple_cow | urk |
| 17:08.37 | purple_cow | is this java's answer to generics? |
| 17:08.47 | slimspace | silly anderson and his mac |
| 17:08.49 | scanline | java has the best answer to anything! |
| 17:08.51 | scanline | and everything! |
| 17:08.53 | scanline | ~sunslap purple_cow |
| 17:08.55 | jbot | ACTION grabs the sun and smashes purple_cow into purple_cow's smallest particles of matter and then several steps beyond that... |
| 17:09.06 | scanline | ooh |
| 17:09.08 | scanline | it's a real command |
| 17:09.11 | scanline | but with the wrong kind of sun |
| 17:09.17 | slimspace | hehe |
| 17:09.27 | slimspace | ~lart Anderson |
| 17:09.34 | scanline | ~tacosquish anderson |
| 17:10.31 | scanline | take me out to the ball game... |
| 17:10.32 | darth_mall | so whenever he breaks the system the switch to the camera of all of us shaking our heads at him? |
| 17:10.32 | slimspace | lol |
| 17:10.32 | scanline | and now the sound of everyone in the class checking their email |
| 17:10.34 | darth_mall | lol |
| 17:10.46 | scanline | heh |
| 17:10.56 | scanline | "Other languages probably have them, but we only care about java" |
| 17:11.09 | darth_mall | I know |
| 17:11.09 | slimspace | "I'm sure other languages have them..." |
| 17:11.20 | darth_mall | this is an OOP class not an OO Java class... wtf |
| 17:11.36 | slimspace | All he seems to know is java |
| 17:11.40 | darth_mall | ~lart anderson |
| 17:11.58 | darth_mall | lol |
| 17:11.59 | purple_cow | thank you scanline :) |
| 17:12.05 | darth_mall | and scanline pulls Anderson's ass out of the fire |
| 17:12.13 | scanline | ha |
| 17:12.19 | scanline | my poor battery... |
| 17:12.39 | darth_mall | lol |
| 17:12.56 | scanline | mine's running full power too! and it doesn't care! |
| 17:12.57 | scanline | that bastard |
| 17:13.07 | purple_cow | yay for having >200 minutes left after spending the entire class compiling :D |
| 17:13.11 | scanline | haha.. this is a textbook example from the Fresco folks |
| 17:13.42 | scanline | except they'd be going on and on about Unicode craziness and color spaces |
| 17:13.49 | purple_cow | heh |
| 17:13.53 | purple_cow | i was just thinking about color spaces... |
| 17:14.06 | slimspace | We should totally make an object in our project that just says "I" |
| 17:14.48 | scanline | he could just say that you can use this pretty much any time you're dealing with a lot of immutable objects that may include duplicates |
| 17:15.00 | darth_mall | pish posh! |
| 17:15.05 | scanline | and most languages do this automatically with strings at least |
| 17:15.19 | scanline | python does it with strings, tuples, integers... everything that's immutable |
| 17:15.36 | scanline | purple_cow: pff, they're called atoms dummy |
| 17:15.39 | scanline | X says so |
| 17:15.50 | purple_cow | hehe |
| 17:16.25 | scanline | and python would say they're interned |
| 17:16.34 | slimspace | no wonder newbie CS majors come out no better than when they came in...Professors like Anderson just fill their minds with crap |
| 17:16.58 | scanline | this is a useful example, but I can think of better ones |
| 17:16.58 | darth_mall | pants! |
| 17:17.17 | darth_mall | digital pants activate |
| 17:18.20 | slimspace | scanline: how does the momentum wheel work exactly? I know it's got torque and speed modes, and you can change the value of each, but in what orders? |
| 17:19.00 | scanline | slimspace: in torque mode you can set the torque it tries to maintain, in speed mode you set the speed it tries to maintain. In either mode, when you read the torque and speed you get the current values rather than what it's targetting |
| 17:19.18 | slimspace | ah, ok |
| 17:19.54 | scanline | yow |
| 17:19.56 | scanline | -rw-r--r-- 1 destinymm users 78305058 Mar 8 14:07 destinymm-homedir.tar.gz |
| 17:20.23 | darth_mall | what's that? |
| 17:21.09 | scanline | I'm copying my senior project home directory from rex to navi |
| 17:21.12 | scanline | and all the database stuff |
| 17:21.20 | darth_mall | scanline: is Anthony that guy that was bugging you about CIA? |
| 17:21.26 | scanline | rex has been kinda flaky with mono and mysql, so we're trying to run it on navi too |
| 17:21.28 | scanline | darth_mall: yes |
| 17:21.29 | slimspace | scanline: what range of values does speed and torque take? |
| 17:21.32 | darth_mall | hehe |
| 17:22.03 | scanline | slimspace: it's a 16-bit signed int, but it's a little odd... |
| 17:22.24 | scanline | slimspace: the lowest value (-16384 IIRC) it interprets as zero, and it only really gives useful results within -4000 to +4000 or so. |
| 17:22.33 | scanline | slimspace: we have nice spreadsheets showing old test results |
| 17:22.57 | slimspace | ok. Maybe I'll have Kendra et al fill in values for that |
| 17:23.16 | darth_mall | bleh... his editor shows carriage returns |
| 17:23.20 | darth_mall | that's kind of gross looking |
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| 17:25.56 | purple_cow | yep |
| 17:26.02 | darth_mall | scanline: but python is inferior to Java because it lacks static typing |
| 17:26.12 | darth_mall | and because it has more letters |
| 17:26.14 | scanline | huh |
| 17:26.19 | scanline | you can add floats to chars in java? |
| 17:26.20 | purple_cow | and no curly brackets |
| 17:26.39 | darth_mall | exactly |
| 17:26.44 | scanline | it seems that with normal type promotion rules that would need to result in a floating point unicode value |
| 17:27.17 | scanline | maybe that's what it does, then he casts it down to char |
| 17:27.46 | purple_cow | hehe |
| 17:27.47 | scanline | hmm |
| 17:27.50 | scanline | coffee went to my head already |
| 17:27.56 | scanline | and my knees |
| 17:28.01 | darth_mall | soon it will go to your bladder |
| 17:28.07 | scanline | yes |
| 17:28.17 | darth_mall | and after that, it's between you and god |
| 17:28.25 | scanline | probably while I'm busy learning about light bulbs and ohm's fucking law |
| 17:28.41 | darth_mall | I didn't know Ohm had a law on fucking |
| 17:28.44 | darth_mall | sounds interesting |
| 17:28.47 | scanline | he does now |
| 17:28.49 | darth_mall | sweet |
| 17:28.54 | purple_cow | hey look, more spam about open source surveys |
| 17:29.40 | scanline | ugh, I had better not be getting whatever purple_cow has |
| 17:29.44 | scanline | hehe |
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| 17:31.05 | CIA-3 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r7248 10xchat-gnome/fe-gnome/ (12 files): add a stub for the dcc page so we get the entry in the list, clean up a whole lotta stuff |
| 17:31.20 | scanline | haha.. it's like slimspace is rewriting my coil testing script, but using Twisted |
| 17:31.26 | scanline | and in OOo rather than python |
| 17:31.36 | purple_cow | hah |
| 17:32.02 | darth_mall | bleh... stupid evo not upgrading properly |
| 17:32.15 | purple_cow | darth_mall: where's it bailing out? |
| 17:32.49 | darth_mall | still giving me crap about libraries, you were right about eds, now it's yelling at me for libgnome, libbonobo, libgtkhtml and a bunch of others |
| 17:33.06 | slimspace | scanline: :) |
| 17:33.16 | purple_cow | darth_mall: weird |
| 17:33.18 | purple_cow | huh |
| 17:33.24 | slimspace | not quite yet, but soon. I'm writing the proceedure that will do that, but I have to implement a lot of the code still. |
| 17:33.31 | purple_cow | so he's saying both adapter and decorator are AKA "wrapper" |
| 17:33.43 | scanline | hehe |
| 17:34.16 | scanline | zooooonneeee edit! |
| 17:34.34 | scanline | it sure is being slow today |
| 17:34.52 | slimspace | scanline: what can we do with science right now? |
| 17:35.11 | purple_cow | aha |
| 17:35.18 | scanline | slimspace: all the science commands are implemented |
| 17:35.20 | darth_mall | if add something to my package.keywords telling portage to use the stable version of evo, will that get stable versions of all the deps as well? |
| 17:35.28 | purple_cow | looks like the gang of 4 book called it wrapper in the first one, but they've retracted that |
| 17:35.44 | darth_mall | hi lurgy |
| 17:35.45 | slimspace | scanline: ok...so will we want to test things like integration and stuff, or for now should we just test getting stuff out of the sensors? |
| 17:35.55 | darth_mall | ~cpr lurgy |
| 17:35.58 | jbot | lurgy: <smoochu> :-* |
| 17:36.10 | scanline | slimspace: we can test integration, but we should get zeroes.. if we want actual data, we can hook up a signal generator |
| 17:36.22 | lurgy | morning darth_mall |
| 17:36.34 | purple_cow | hurray c2 |
| 17:36.43 | scanline | ~nslookup destinymm.navi.cx |
| 17:36.49 | scanline | yay fast DNS |
| 17:37.03 | slimspace | hmm... |
| 17:37.23 | darth_mall | hehe |
| 17:37.41 | darth_mall | curse these computers for not accepting my Mac fetish! |
| 17:37.53 | slimspace | did it freeze again? |
| 17:37.55 | darth_mall | yep |
| 17:37.59 | slimspace | hehe |
| 17:38.08 | darth_mall | Liz never has this many problems in class |
| 17:38.14 | slimspace | and now, back to everyone checking their mail |
| 17:38.14 | darth_mall | because she actually uses their system |
| 17:38.47 | purple_cow | darth_mall: you should email him and point out that using powerpoint on their computer works fine :P |
| 17:39.16 | darth_mall | good idea |
| 17:39.18 | slimspace | but then he can't use his special mac |
| 17:39.25 | darth_mall | maybe he doesn't realize it's his fault |
| 17:39.47 | darth_mall | but I doubt it |
| 17:40.00 | slimspace | yay mostly finished proceedure |
| 17:40.04 | darth_mall | I'd guess he's one of those fanatics |
| 17:40.28 | darth_mall | argh! |
| 17:40.33 | purple_cow | and while you're at it, you can point out that keynote's pdf export is kind of broken and gives a black background on everything but acroread :P |
| 17:40.35 | darth_mall | libgtkhtml didn't compile |
| 17:40.41 | purple_cow | darth_mall: what's the error? |
| 17:41.03 | darth_mall | looks like: ``undefined reference to `_' '' |
| 17:41.33 | slimspace | hmm... |
| 17:41.34 | purple_cow | darth_mall: drop down to the non-bmg version of libgnome, upgrade libgtkhtml and then re-emerge the newer libgnome |
| 17:41.42 | purple_cow | mmm, quaternion |
| 17:41.51 | darth_mall | purple_cow: ok, so I need to do libgnome first |
| 17:42.17 | purple_cow | darth_mall: emerge =gnome-base/libgnome-2.8.1 |
| 17:42.25 | CIA-3 | spacegrant: 03maccarro * r1027 10doc-misc/determining_spin.tex: Added quaternion document and stuff |
| 17:42.49 | darth_mall | would be nice if there were an easier way to mix stable and unstable on a system |
| 17:42.56 | CIA-3 | spacegrant: 03maccarro * r1028 10mck/PyMCK/Test/FuncTest.py: Added a test file with some functions useful for software functional testing |
| 17:43.14 | purple_cow | darth_mall: well, it's just some weird problem with the bmg thing |
| 17:43.15 | darth_mall | yay slimspace! |
| 17:43.22 | slimspace | darth_mall: :) |
| 17:43.51 | purple_cow | huh |
| 17:43.56 | purple_cow | today's forecast is "thunder and windy" |
| 17:44.01 | purple_cow | i guess that's less creepy than grains |
| 17:44.07 | numist | *yawn* |
| 17:46.52 | lurgy | damn |
| 17:47.15 | lurgy | admission into the "Future Soccer Moms" group is moderated :P |
| 17:52.10 | lurgy | heh |
| 17:52.27 | lurgy | but "Republican Princesses" isn't |
| 17:53.39 | darth_mall | I'm just not sure I can handle it |
| 17:53.41 | ChipX86 | 09:16:23 < steveO_laptop> is anyone running vmware on OS X 10.XXX ? |
| 17:54.19 | purple_cow | ChipX86: hah |
| 17:54.19 | ChipX86 | 09:54:04 < steveO_laptop> Yaaa just was thinking unix/linux should work but |
| 17:54.22 | ChipX86 | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:54.34 | darth_mall | yup |
| 17:54.42 | darth_mall | because OS X and Unix are completely the same |
| 17:54.44 | ChipX86 | I tell you, there are real winners in that channel |
| 17:54.53 | ChipX86 | darth_mall: and the architectures are the same! |
| 17:55.11 | purple_cow | ChipX86: well, if it runs on linux... |
| 17:55.23 | ChipX86 | this guy from last night kept trying to tell me that ubuntu sucks because you couldn't prevent gnome from installing in the very beginning, and that the reason that package management is broken in linux is because not everybody uses debs |
| 17:55.37 | ChipX86 | so I went on and explained how all the big names got together and we tried to form standards and stuff |
| 17:55.47 | ChipX86 | and went into a bunch of details about every problem |
| 17:56.05 | ChipX86 | and he practically ignored all that and said it won't work because we don't all use the same file format |
| 17:56.18 | ChipX86 | and that it's "impossible" to write a tool that understands more than one package format |
| 17:56.25 | darth_mall | ChipX86: everyone knows that Debian has the superior package manager |
| 17:56.59 | ChipX86 | he also says ubuntu has no chance of surviving, because it installs as a desktop enviornment, and people don't want that |
| 17:57.21 | darth_mall | I hate my desktop environment |
| 17:57.38 | darth_mall | not a day goes buy that I don't curse myself for emerging gnome |
| 18:00.19 | ChipX86 | http://www.chipx86.com/blog/archives/000081.html |
| 18:00.20 | ChipX86 | :) |
| 18:00.22 | ChipX86 | darth_mall: heh |
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| 18:12.26 | darth_mall | ChipX86: =D |
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| 18:12.31 | darth_mall | ChipX86: I really like that post |
| 18:12.37 | darth_mall | very well said |
| 18:12.44 | ChipX86 | thanks |
| 18:16.00 | kergoth | bleh |
| 18:16.03 | kergoth | bleh, i say! |
| 18:16.50 | lurgy | wow, almost 54% of CU's undergrads on facebook |
| 18:16.58 | lurgy | that's really scary |
| 18:17.19 | pagefault | ugh |
| 18:17.30 | pagefault | some guy is saying how longhorn is so much better than linux |
| 18:17.35 | pagefault | what a moron |
| 18:17.53 | pagefault | "it has better security than linux" |
| 18:18.29 | ChipX86|Gone | someone remind me tonight to fix gnome-presence-applet |
| 18:18.54 | purple_cow | fix gnome-presence applet tonight |
| 18:19.04 | purple_cow | wow, some people should not be allowed to touch the pitchbend wheel |
| 18:19.06 | kergoth | jbot needs an 'at' function |
| 18:19.20 | kergoth | message for kergoth at 21:00: do blah |
| 18:21.01 | kergoth | maybe i'll add that to kbot |
| 18:23.32 | pagefault | hmm |
| 18:23.44 | purple_cow | ugh |
| 18:23.44 | pagefault | the sony "ipod shuffle" sounds good |
| 18:23.50 | pagefault | it actually has a FM tuner in some models |
| 18:23.57 | lurgy | ah yes, "better" |
| 18:24.04 | numist | the creative one thats been out since eons ago still sounds like the best deal.. it even has a screen |
| 18:24.04 | purple_cow | i got that stupid OSS survey thing on both my CU address and my SF address =/ |
| 18:24.08 | numist | (the muvo) |
| 18:24.14 | pagefault | just the price sucks |
| 18:24.22 | lurgy | the word that, when used in just the right way, means absolutely nothing but does make one sound like a snob |
| 18:24.48 | numist | pagefault: muvo isnt a ton more than a shuffle, esp considering they have fm tuner option and half gig/1gb models |
| 18:24.49 | *** join/#tacobeam cwisty (~default@humn157-129-dhcp.colorado.edu) |
| 18:24.57 | lurgy | ohmygosh |
| 18:25.08 | lurgy | cwisty is stealing university dhcp |
| 18:25.26 | lurgy | oh the humanity |
| 18:25.29 | numist | ... |
| 18:25.49 | cwisty | what you gonna do about it? |
| 18:25.49 | numist | yeah.. Im going to campus... later |
| 18:26.02 | lurgy | ~sorboslap cwisty |
| 18:26.05 | jbot | ACTION assails cwisty with Kevin Sorbo's sense of self-satisfaction |
| 18:26.05 | lurgy | hah |
| 18:26.10 | lurgy | didn't see *that* coming i'll bet |
| 18:26.21 | cwisty | haha |
| 18:26.21 | cwisty | nope |
| 18:26.30 | pagefault | numist, any recording ability? |
| 18:27.31 | lurgy | ~moonslap monkeys |
| 18:27.33 | jbot | ACTION nabs the moon and broadsides monkeys with the sea of tranquility |
| 18:27.54 | kergoth | @lart add nabs the moon and broadsides someone with the sea of tranquility |
| 18:27.55 | kbot | kergoth: Error: Larts must contain $who. |
| 18:28.00 | kergoth | @lart add nabs the moon and broadsides $who with the sea of tranquility |
| 18:28.01 | kbot | kergoth: The operation succeeded. Lart #1 added. |
| 18:29.31 | lurgy | hehe |
| 18:29.34 | purple_cow | time to start writing a 1 minute film score, for a 1 minute film! |
| 18:29.39 | lurgy | @lart jojo |
| 18:29.43 | lurgy | purple_cow: hehe |
| 18:30.54 | darth_mall | purple_cow: it needs kazoos |
| 18:31.06 | lurgy | and a slide whistle |
| 18:32.05 | pagefault | argh |
| 18:32.06 | pagefault | nvidia |
| 18:32.10 | pagefault | I want alsa drivers! |
| 18:33.04 | pagefault | MacDork writes "CNNMoney posted a short article this morning about new Ohio regulations set to become effective May 2 this year. If you are in the state and selling on eBay, you will need to pay $200 for a license and post a $50,000 bond or face possible fines and jail time. |
| 18:33.05 | pagefault | wtf? |
| 18:35.44 | cwisty | why? |
| 18:36.03 | darth_mall | I wonder if a lot of people are avoiding business taxes in Ohio by selling on ebay |
| 18:36.31 | darth_mall | I know there are a lot of places (like card shops) that sell a lot of their merchandise on ebay because it's cheaper then selling it in a store |
| 18:36.38 | cwisty | I"m sure that's true, some people make money just selling things on EBay (which I dont' think are taxed) |
| 18:36.55 | cwisty | they make their whole livlihoods on EBay that is |
| 18:37.00 | darth_mall | mmhmm |
| 18:37.12 | cwisty | that's nuts though |
| 18:37.34 | cwisty | cause someone like me who's sold a couple books and some random stuff on EBay would be screwed |
| 18:37.44 | pagefault | thats hardly fair for people who sell like 2 things a month |
| 18:37.47 | cwisty | or rather EBay would be screwed since I'd sell them on Amazon instead |
| 18:37.48 | pagefault | yeah |
| 18:38.07 | cwisty | I wonder if EBay can/will get legally involved |
| 18:38.28 | pagefault | I wonder how the government even has jurisdiction over the internet |
| 18:39.01 | cwisty | well they are technically goods sold and purchased in the the US |
| 18:39.06 | cwisty | but yeah I dunno |
| 18:39.24 | cwisty | but getting around taxes legally (ie EBay) is the real way to make money |
| 18:39.27 | pagefault | i'd just move my ebay address to some place outside of ohio |
| 18:39.42 | cwisty | otherwise they tax you when you make it and they tax it again when you spend it |
| 18:39.53 | cwisty | hmmmm |
| 18:40.01 | cwisty | how could they monitor that? |
| 18:40.07 | cwisty | I guess they couldn't |
| 18:40.14 | cwisty | unless you sell the kinda stuff that's pick up only |
| 18:40.26 | pagefault | it's just your generic government stupidity |
| 18:40.30 | pagefault | passing laws without thinking them through |
| 18:41.24 | cwisty | hehe |
| 18:41.25 | pagefault | if anything this will hurt govenment income more than anything |
| 18:41.28 | pagefault | err government |
| 18:41.40 | cwisty | I"m sure they thought it through and someone convinced them it was a good idea at the time |
| 18:41.49 | cwisty | without thinking about how to enforce it |
| 18:42.09 | cwisty | it's like the sex laws on the books in most states |
| 18:42.13 | cwisty | no one enforces them |
| 18:42.15 | pagefault | now they will have to pay someone else to manage these licenses and make ethem |
| 18:42.31 | cwisty | or the law in the state of colorado that it's illegal to spit on the ground |
| 18:42.37 | cwisty | who the hell is gonna give a ticket for that? |
| 18:42.40 | cwisty | not anymore |
| 18:43.07 | pagefault | i'm sure if they tried to do some house cleaning on some of those laws someone would complain |
| 18:43.16 | pagefault | and an unhappy voter is not good in the eyes of a politician |
| 18:43.16 | cwisty | sure |
| 18:43.25 | cwisty | every so often it's actually on the ballot in colorado |
| 18:43.33 | cwisty | to clean up old stupid laws liek that |
| 18:43.49 | cwisty | it takes a lot of time, a vote by the people, and a whole lotta crap to make it offiical |
| 18:44.13 | pagefault | but sometimes their own stupid laws can benefit people |
| 18:44.16 | cwisty | but we have cleaned up some of those lately |
| 18:44.20 | pagefault | like here when they put a levy on blank media |
| 18:44.33 | pagefault | it basically legitamatized the copying of copyrighted data |
| 18:44.40 | cwisty | ah |
| 18:44.41 | pagefault | since I have basically already paid for it |
| 18:45.22 | cwisty | again, trying to tax you for something they know you do and can't enforce |
| 18:45.28 | kergoth | hm, the ball on my piercing is loose, and i dont know which way to turn it to tighten it |
| 18:45.31 | pagefault | yeah |
| 18:45.44 | cwisty | righty tighty? |
| 18:46.04 | kergoth | heh, but i dont know which end of the circle its attached to. |
| 18:46.07 | kergoth | :) |
| 18:46.53 | cwisty | ? |
| 18:47.00 | cwisty | which end? |
| 18:47.10 | cwisty | it doesn't matter |
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| 18:47.30 | kergoth | cwisty: http://www.kscope4fun.com/Lip.htm |
| 18:47.51 | kergoth | tell me how you tell which way is 'right'? |
| 18:48.01 | kergoth | heh |
| 18:48.09 | cwisty | hmmm |
| 18:48.16 | cwisty | the right way is to the right |
| 18:48.17 | cwisty | duh |
| 18:48.17 | pagefault | haha |
| 18:48.18 | cwisty | ;-) |
| 18:48.23 | pagefault | I love these student council election posters |
| 18:48.31 | pagefault | "will fight for lower transit fares" |
| 18:48.34 | pagefault | like they have any say in that |
| 18:48.46 | kergoth | my right or the right of the person who was looking at me when she put it on? :P |
| 18:48.46 | cwisty | actually they do |
| 18:48.49 | pagefault | yeah but they aren't going to listen to them here |
| 18:48.54 | cwisty | kergoth: well screw it one way until it's either tight or falls off |
| 18:49.04 | cwisty | then either leave it alone or screw it the other way |
| 18:49.08 | cwisty | duh ;-) |
| 18:49.15 | darth_mall | heh |
| 18:49.18 | pagefault | this one person says |
| 18:49.26 | kergoth | it was a pain in the ass for her to get on, and i dont feel like dealing with it at work |
| 18:49.29 | kergoth | heh |
| 18:49.42 | pagefault | they will strengthen security so police aren't needed |
| 18:49.50 | pagefault | but don't you sort of need police to do that |
| 18:50.02 | purple_cow | time to head home |
| 18:50.07 | darth_mall | kergoth: should be the right of the person who put it on |
| 18:50.10 | darth_mall | so your left |
| 18:50.30 | darth_mall | that's how mine was |
| 18:50.49 | darth_mall | pagefault: not your socks |
| 18:51.17 | pagefault | there goes my meal plan |
| 18:51.33 | darth_mall | sorry =\ |
| 18:52.10 | pagefault | hehe |
| 18:53.15 | kergoth | @deepthought |
| 18:53.16 | kbot | kergoth: If I could go back and change one thing in my life, I think it would be that time I found that one-dollar bill on the sidewalk. I would change it to a million-dollar bill. |
| 18:53.38 | pagefault | apparently it is international women's day |
| 18:53.41 | kergoth | damnit, i already saw that one |
| 18:53.41 | kergoth | @deepthought |
| 18:53.42 | kbot | kergoth: Marta says the interesting thing about fly fishing is that it's two lives connected by a thin strand. Come on, Marta. Grow up. |
| 18:53.43 | pagefault | accoriding to google |
| 18:53.51 | pagefault | it's also typo day for me |
| 18:53.57 | samyb | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:54.05 | samyb | I'm moving out of Saudi Arabia in 2 months or so. |
| 18:54.09 | kergoth | where to? |
| 18:54.11 | pagefault | typo |
| 18:54.43 | samyb | kergoth: Illinois or California it seems. |
| 18:54.59 | samyb | kergoth: Illinois is a swish shot if I'm not in California (I'll find out end of this month). |
| 18:55.10 | kergoth | ah, cool |
| 18:55.14 | kergoth | congrats? :) |
| 18:55.43 | samyb | Thanks. |
| 18:56.10 | samyb | I really don't care for Illinois though, I'm really aiming for UC. At least I have more possibilities at the least :) |
| 18:57.45 | cwisty | today is International Women's Day |
| 18:57.55 | cwisty | what is International Women's Day anyway? |
| 18:57.59 | pagefault | no idea |
| 18:58.21 | pagefault | there needs to be an international free beer day |
| 18:58.26 | pagefault | or something |
| 18:58.30 | kergoth | thats what i was just thinking |
| 18:58.44 | cwisty | haha |
| 19:01.17 | lurgy | cwisty: it's like the opposite of international men's day? |
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| 19:01.43 | pagefault | windows sucks |
| 19:01.50 | cwisty | I dunno |
| 19:01.56 | cwisty | what's International Men's day? |
| 19:02.07 | pagefault | is there one? |
| 19:02.11 | cwisty | what's next? International People's Day? |
| 19:02.14 | cwisty | I dunno |
| 19:02.22 | lurgy | maybe it's a part of international people's week |
| 19:02.30 | cwisty | I dind't even know there was an International Women's day |
| 19:02.34 | lurgy | though that just sounds like a communist recruiting thing |
| 19:02.44 | cwisty | I know there's children's day |
| 19:02.54 | cwisty | and weird stuff like that |
| 19:02.54 | lurgy | cwisty: well, there's an international trombone toss, so i guess i'm not too surprised |
| 19:02.59 | cwisty | but those are usually national |
| 19:03.10 | cwisty | yeah |
| 19:03.13 | pagefault | http://q1n.org/files/01.%20Microsoft%20-%20YOO!%20(original%20Year%20Of%20the%20Office%20Mix).ogg |
| 19:03.18 | cwisty | but they're not usually a big deal |
| 19:03.22 | pagefault | the msoffice theme song |
| 19:03.24 | lurgy | ooh and it's gonna be in a couple of months |
| 19:03.30 | lurgy | and here, no less |
| 19:03.31 | lurgy | mwa ha |
| 19:04.17 | purple_cow | what bizzare weather... |
| 19:04.24 | cwisty | yup |
| 19:04.31 | pagefault | it's like -30 outside |
| 19:04.39 | pagefault | my eyes almost froze shut walking to the bus |
| 19:05.06 | lurgy | howso? |
| 19:05.15 | purple_cow | warm and cloudy early, then snowing, now it's about 50 and a clear sky, but another storm on the horizon |
| 19:05.25 | numist | pagefault: recording ability? |
| 19:05.26 | cwisty | it's half snowing half raining and just cold in general |
| 19:05.34 | purple_cow | cwisty: not right now ;) |
| 19:05.40 | cwisty | depends on wher eyou are |
| 19:05.42 | purple_cow | beautiful day outside :) |
| 19:05.43 | cwisty | it is in Broomfield |
| 19:05.48 | cwisty | or was |
| 19:05.50 | cwisty | who knows |
| 19:05.51 | numist | ok, forget it, its breakfast time |
| 19:05.52 | samyb | kergoth: and.... |
| 19:06.04 | samyb | kergoth: "55 percent women; 45 percent men" |
| 19:06.55 | samyb | kergoth: At least on the bright side (not that it's a huge motivating factor, but it' |
| 19:06.58 | samyb | s a bright side |
| 19:07.18 | pagefault | ooh more women than men |
| 19:07.21 | lurgy | samyb: unfortunately that kinda suggests a small engineering school.. |
| 19:07.33 | pagefault | the ratio is 2:1 here women to men |
| 19:07.53 | purple_cow | CS here has a massive 10% women :P |
| 19:07.59 | samyb | lurgy: Indeed. |
| 19:08.07 | pagefault | yeah well the CS here is mostly men |
| 19:08.13 | cwisty | it's that high? |
| 19:08.19 | samyb | lurgy: The fact is, as an undergraduate, I know I will have access to all the University's resources (since I've spoken to one of their professors quite a bit). |
| 19:08.19 | cwisty | I think it's a lot less than that now |
| 19:08.25 | pagefault | but the law/economics/psychology are mostly all women |
| 19:08.33 | cwisty | depends on your major |
| 19:08.36 | samyb | lurgy: I still am aiming for UC, etc... |
| 19:08.45 | cwisty | and if you're grad undergrad |
| 19:08.52 | cwisty | CSM grad is 50 felmale in ENgineering |
| 19:08.58 | samyb | Turns out one of my dad's biggest investors went to Boulder. |
| 19:09.02 | cwisty | (small I know) but still |
| 19:09.34 | samyb | lurgy: Cool fellow. So, it will be productive. |
| 19:10.04 | pagefault | thats not a knife, this is a knife |
| 19:10.05 | purple_cow | cwisty: that's what i was told as a freshman |
| 19:10.08 | pagefault | thats not a knife, thats a spoon |
| 19:10.08 | purple_cow | could be lower now :P |
| 19:10.17 | pagefault | ah, I see you've played knifey spoony before |
| 19:10.20 | cwisty | purple_cow: I guess that shows that women at CU are smart enough not to be CS majors here |
| 19:10.28 | samyb | I also applied to RICE and CMU. |
| 19:10.32 | cwisty | this year's freshmen incoming class . . . |
| 19:10.32 | samyb | I've only heard from RICE though. |
| 19:10.34 | darth_mall | pagefault: =D |
| 19:10.34 | cwisty | 2 women |
| 19:10.36 | cwisty | 2!!! |
| 19:10.48 | cwisty | that's less than 10 % |
| 19:11.03 | cwisty | it's gottten worse since you were a freshment purple_cow |
| 19:11.17 | samyb | Ouch. |
| 19:11.25 | samyb | purple_cow: How much longer until your graduate? |
| 19:11.39 | purple_cow | cwisty: this department should be ashamed of itself |
| 19:11.53 | purple_cow | ``Beagle is ready to roll with the latest inotify and, if you have not heard, perhaps you live in a cave, with bears, it is the greatest thing ever.'' |
| 19:11.53 | cwisty | it is |
| 19:11.59 | cwisty | they're working hard to fix that |
| 19:12.02 | cwisty | enrollment is donw |
| 19:12.10 | cwisty | last years incoming class had 42 people |
| 19:12.17 | cwisty | we're shrinking fast |
| 19:12.24 | pagefault | http://anthems.zdnet.co.uk/anthems/apple2forever.mp3 |
| 19:12.26 | pagefault | haha wtf? |
| 19:12.32 | purple_cow | cwisty: well, that's probably actually a good thing |
| 19:12.36 | pagefault | why do computer companies have strange songs |
| 19:12.39 | purple_cow | since most of the CS majors shouldn't be CS majors |
| 19:12.39 | cwisty | oooh class is over! |
| 19:12.40 | cwisty | yaya |
| 19:12.49 | cwisty | OK |
| 19:12.51 | cwisty | I'm outtie |
| 19:12.55 | cwisty | tty laters!! |
| 19:13.01 | *** part/#tacobeam cwisty (~default@humn157-129-dhcp.colorado.edu) |
| 19:14.16 | samyb | purple_cow: HOW MUCH LONGER UNTIL YOU GRADUATE? |
| 19:14.29 | samyb | Minus the caps. |
| 19:14.34 | purple_cow | another year :( |
| 19:15.27 | CIA-3 | spacegrant: 03maccarro * r1029 10mck/PyMCK/Observable.py: Added new Observable.Actuator class. Still needs testing |
| 19:15.30 | darth_mall | silly samyb |
| 19:15.33 | slimspace | bleh, class... |
| 19:15.43 | samyb | darth_mall: What's up? |
| 19:15.52 | darth_mall | samyb: you and your caps, they make you silly^^ |
| 19:16.11 | samyb | darth_mall: hahaha |
| 19:16.22 | darth_mall | it was funny, looking at the channel and seeing that message |
| 19:17.02 | lurgy | heh |
| 19:17.09 | purple_cow | ``One common complaint about Linux is that binary packages from one distribution are not compatible with other distributions, and there is a need to create a Technology to circumvent this problem. Well, a solution exists, it's named "static linking"'' |
| 19:17.11 | lurgy | purple_cow: say what you want about CS, EE is even worse in that respect |
| 19:17.24 | lurgy | the sophomore EE/ECE class has 1 girl in it |
| 19:17.38 | darth_mall | lurgy: but the dept. is better, from what I've seen |
| 19:17.40 | purple_cow | lurgy: could be it got worse faster |
| 19:17.46 | darth_mall | isn't it? |
| 19:17.49 | purple_cow | lurgy: when i came in, EE was at 15% and CS 10% |
| 19:19.22 | lurgy | purple_cow: it's gotten a lot worse |
| 19:19.36 | lurgy | purple_cow: EE is less than 10% now.. my class is something like 8% |
| 19:21.19 | lurgy | and then it got even worse |
| 19:21.30 | darth_mall | purple_cow: static linking solves all of life's problems! |
| 19:22.46 | darth_mall | yay! |
| 19:34.28 | darth_mall | bleh... having trouble focusing on work |
| 19:39.00 | kergoth | darth_mall: i have that problem every day :\ |
| 19:39.52 | scanline | hmm |
| 19:40.05 | scanline | why isn't it this easy to write a paper? |
| 19:40.39 | kergoth | heh |
| 19:43.22 | scanline | heh |
| 19:43.25 | purple_cow | yay, comment posted |
| 19:43.32 | darth_mall | and also displays album covers |
| 19:43.39 | scanline | and a therm gdesklet! |
| 19:43.44 | darth_mall | scanline: actually... yeah |
| 19:43.48 | darth_mall | I was thinking about that too |
| 19:43.52 | purple_cow | scanline: we should start thinking about that SRC paper... |
| 19:44.01 | scanline | too many papers! |
| 19:44.15 | darth_mall | as I was perusing the gdesklets website it occured to me that I would much prefer a therm gdesklet to a therm panel applet ^^ |
| 19:44.28 | darth_mall | plus, the therm strikes me as something that would make a good desklet |
| 19:44.37 | purple_cow | since they both look very similar with 500 points, but one of them has even density and one really doesn't :) |
| 19:45.06 | purple_cow | huh |
| 19:45.16 | scanline | darth_mall: yeah. it'd be really cool to have something like the current applet that displays a temperature and graph, but then you hover the mouse over it and something like the OS X dock shows up with zoomy-graphs for all the sensors :) |
| 19:45.21 | purple_cow | ohh, he updated the grade field thingy |
| 19:45.26 | purple_cow | since he missed it the first time :P |
| 19:46.35 | darth_mall | scanline: well, I'll probably be investigating the process of building gdesklets |
| 19:46.43 | darth_mall | scanline: so once I figure that out I'll probably do it ^^ |
| 19:46.49 | scanline | darth_mall: we could do this for the OOP project ;) |
| 19:46.54 | darth_mall | heh |
| 19:46.59 | darth_mall | I think that might be considered too simple |
| 19:47.06 | scanline | we could make it complicated |
| 19:47.10 | darth_mall | yes! |
| 19:47.12 | scanline | read/write therms! |
| 19:47.17 | darth_mall | rofl |
| 19:47.34 | scanline | the therm server has an architecture interesting enough it might make a good OOP project |
| 19:47.36 | scanline | but that's already written |
| 19:47.43 | darth_mall | so many projects... |
| 19:47.46 | scanline | especially it's graph caching |
| 19:47.51 | darth_mall | I still haven't gotten around to trying to patch multisync |
| 19:47.58 | scanline | multisync? |
| 19:48.00 | darth_mall | yeah |
| 19:48.03 | purple_cow | oooh, i just got a terribly evil idea |
| 19:48.16 | darth_mall | thing for syncing stuff with other stuff |
| 19:48.26 | darth_mall | I was gonna use it for syncing my Z with evo |
| 19:48.47 | darth_mall | but it didn't work very well, and I don't like the interface they provide for doing that particular sync |
| 19:48.48 | purple_cow | now that evolution is thawed, i should separate out my EConfig patch from the calendar publishing stuff |
| 19:48.52 | darth_mall | so I was gonna try and patch it |
| 19:49.10 | purple_cow | which would probably throw a wrench into the other guy's implementation |
| 19:49.11 | kergoth | http://money.cnn.com/2005/03/08/markets/markets_newyork/index.htm?cnn=yes |
| 19:51.51 | *** join/#tacobeam pagefault (~pagefault@66.199.241.90) |
| 19:52.06 | *** join/#tacobeam pagefault_ (~pagefault@66.199.241.90) |
| 19:52.22 | pagefault | hey |
| 19:53.22 | CIA-3 | spacegrant: 03evan * r1030 10mck/PyMCK/ADCS/Coordinates.py: Added a couple of comments. |
| 19:53.44 | darth_mall | kergoth: you're murdering the stock market! |
| 19:53.50 | darth_mall | ^^ |
| 19:54.03 | hardwire | happy womens day darth_mall |
| 19:54.39 | scanline | purple_cow: and why not? |
| 19:54.49 | purple_cow | scanline: *shrug* |
| 19:54.57 | numist | god damnit.. my powerbook's battery came out when I left for work.. all my stuff died with the computer |
| 19:55.31 | darth_mall | hardwire: happy womens day to you too |
| 19:55.44 | hardwire | thanks! |
| 19:57.51 | ChipX86 | meh, womens. |
| 19:58.03 | scanline | yay, womens |
| 19:58.07 | darth_mall | huzzah! |
| 19:58.11 | ChipX86 | womens trouble. |
| 19:58.21 | darth_mall | ChipX86: are you having womens troubles? |
| 19:58.27 | ChipX86 | Jamie might not be coming |
| 19:58.28 | darth_mall | cuz they make pills for that |
| 19:58.35 | scanline | hehe |
| 19:58.39 | ChipX86 | because her mom told her she can't (despite her being 21) and is pumping fear into her about getting raped |
| 19:58.41 | darth_mall | ChipX86: how come? |
| 19:58.49 | darth_mall | stop answering my questions before I ask! |
| 19:59.01 | darth_mall | well... |
| 19:59.03 | ChipX86 | said she just can't do things liek that on her own. She needs her mom, or so her mom says. |
| 19:59.22 | darth_mall | that's lame |
| 19:59.23 | ChipX86 | Jamie said if she was to come, it would mean a major fight with her mom about this that would cause problems for a while |
| 19:59.41 | scanline | ChipX86: =( |
| 19:59.44 | darth_mall | avoiding conflict with the parental units is desirable |
| 19:59.49 | scanline | ChipX86: sounds like a couple friends of mine |
| 19:59.49 | ChipX86 | I told Amanda that I think maybe her mom doesn't trust me |
| 19:59.53 | darth_mall | sucks when parents are all sucky |
| 20:00.06 | ChipX86 | Amanda says that she and the other girls should put a dating resume together for me with written testimonies (despite the fact that I haven't dated them) |
| 20:00.22 | darth_mall | details |
| 20:00.22 | lurgy | hehe |
| 20:00.29 | darth_mall | goddammit |
| 20:00.32 | purple_cow | a lot of times you have to remember that parents are just worried about their kids' safety, but there's a point at which it just becomes overbearing |
| 20:00.35 | scanline | hehe, dating resume |
| 20:00.36 | darth_mall | that's twice in a row I've spilled water on myself |
| 20:00.58 | lurgy | yeah, if i were a mother with a daughter dating some guy, i'd be looking for a guy who'd dated as many girls as possible.. :P |
| 20:01.01 | darth_mall | purple_cow: by the time your 21, although your parents will still worry, it should no longer affect your life that much |
| 20:01.10 | ChipX86 | lurgy: heh |
| 20:01.14 | scanline | darth_mall: yes |
| 20:01.28 | ChipX86 | well the point was to put something together showing htat I am actually a good and trustworthy guy unlike a lot of guys out there that she could be dating |
| 20:01.29 | darth_mall | I mean, it's fine for her mom to worry, but it shouldn't cause a fight if Jamie decides to go anyway |
| 20:01.48 | ChipX86 | her mom needs to realize that I would make sure she's safe and take care of her, and that if my goal was just to get into her pants, I would have moved on by now |
| 20:01.54 | ChipX86 | darth_mall: exactly |
| 20:01.59 | kergoth | ChipX86: heh, she really ought to not let her mother control her life. she has her own life to live. fights can be put up with. |
| 20:02.09 | lurgy | if i were Jamie at this point, I might be looking for a way to distance myself from the parental units.. |
| 20:02.10 | darth_mall | I would hope that, if I were a parent, I'd be able to make that leap when my child turned 18 |
| 20:02.12 | ChipX86 | it's her mom's problem, not Jamie's. And she shouldn't put Jamie down and make her think of herself as worthless to keep her there. |
| 20:02.12 | scanline | even if she were trying to make a bad decision at this point in her life, there really isn't anything parents should do other than give advice |
| 20:02.17 | lurgy | ChipX86: you aren't a blind concert pianist by any chance, are you? |
| 20:02.26 | purple_cow | hehehe |
| 20:02.27 | ChipX86 | lurgy: on weekends sometimes |
| 20:02.29 | darth_mall | of course, regardless of age, if you hurt my child all bets are off ;) |
| 20:02.36 | ChipX86 | see, her mom has no other relatives in the area, and has cancer |
| 20:02.42 | ChipX86 | and her life didn't go as well as she expected |
| 20:02.44 | ChipX86 | and she's divorced |
| 20:02.49 | kergoth | bitter old woman |
| 20:02.55 | lurgy | wow that does sound like that episode of Quantum Leap |
| 20:02.57 | purple_cow | lurgy: i was just thinking the same thing |
| 20:03.02 | darth_mall | heh |
| 20:03.09 | ChipX86 | so she doens't want her daugther to leave her, and doesn't want her to go through what she went through, I think.. which is not a good excuse for making her daughter miss out on things |
| 20:03.09 | darth_mall | ChipX86: does she live at home? |
| 20:03.11 | lurgy | ChipX86: so I have a plan for you now |
| 20:03.13 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 20:03.19 | ChipX86 | she has to help support her mom |
| 20:03.21 | darth_mall | yeah, that makes fights more of a concern |
| 20:04.04 | kergoth | when i lived at home, i did lots of things that caused fights. i had my own mistakes to make, and didnt let fights stop that |
| 20:04.05 | lurgy | ChipX86: all you have to do is save her from a serial strangler (who turns out to be their police officer neighbor) and prove to her mom that you're really blind |
| 20:04.16 | lurgy | then she's all yours |
| 20:04.16 | kergoth | course i'm a bastard, and really quite enjoy verbally defeating my parents in arguments |
| 20:04.27 | darth_mall | I used to as well |
| 20:04.33 | ChipX86 | lurgy: you're right! It worked in that one episode |
| 20:04.56 | darth_mall | lurgy: that's creepy |
| 20:05.06 | kergoth | well, avoiding fights is fine, but when avoiding fights stops you from living your life, thats a problem. |
| 20:05.19 | lurgy | darth_mall: creepy.. or.. convenient? |
| 20:05.23 | darth_mall | kergoth: yeah, but it's Jamie's choice whether it's worth the battle |
| 20:05.36 | purple_cow | ok, time to move to the lappy, hack on evolution and watch indiana jones movies |
| 20:05.38 | ChipX86 | I didn't tell Jamie that she had to choose, because of course family is important, but I did tell her that I believed in her, believed that she could make the right decision for her, and even though such things are risks, as long as it's a smart risk, it's usually a risk worth taking |
| 20:05.40 | darth_mall | lurgy: I remember seeing a documentary on the hillside strangler in HS... that was unsettling |
| 20:05.55 | kergoth | yay, risks |
| 20:05.58 | lurgy | darth_mall: i think this one's a different one |
| 20:06.02 | lurgy | darth_mall: it has to be in central park |
| 20:06.15 | darth_mall | your summation was pretty accurate for the hillside strangler |
| 20:06.24 | darth_mall | whether that's what you were talking about or not ;) |
| 20:06.48 | scanline | hmm |
| 20:07.08 | lurgy | hehe |
| 20:08.03 | kergoth | I should write a non-sucky console outliner application, for managing todos |
| 20:08.06 | darth_mall | lurgy: naw |
| 20:09.20 | ChipX86 | me too |
| 20:10.06 | darth_mall | ChipX86: let's go get lunch! =D |
| 20:10.29 | ChipX86 | ok! |
| 20:10.35 | ChipX86 | your state or mine? |
| 20:11.54 | scanline | kergoth: bah, emacs! |
| 20:11.58 | kergoth | Subject: [Unionfs] Problem Report: df is showing a multiple of actual |
| 20:11.58 | kergoth | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:12.00 | kergoth | :) |
| 20:12.04 | scanline | hehe |
| 20:12.16 | kergoth | I've entered this bug into our tracking system as #212. |
| 20:12.20 | kergoth | </quote of reply> |
| 20:12.22 | darth_mall | wow... a crap ton of people just showed up |
| 20:13.00 | scanline | to where? |
| 20:13.37 | darth_mall | work |
| 20:13.51 | scanline | that's silly |
| 20:14.03 | darth_mall | I was here, pretty much alone, then suddenly there were 7 or 8 people around |
| 20:14.03 | darth_mall | crazy |
| 20:14.24 | scanline | yay, harrison ford, in a good movie |
| 20:14.58 | scanline | some time we should really flesh out the CIA ruleset for #devlounge |
| 20:15.10 | kergoth | yep |
| 20:15.12 | scanline | I pretty much just gave it a subset of tacobeam's, since I don't know many of the other people |
| 20:15.48 | ChipX86 | there we go! |
| 20:16.03 | *** join/#tacobeam cwisty (~default@ec237-129-dhcp.colorado.edu) |
| 20:16.25 | scanline | yay, cwisty's back |
| 20:16.28 | darth_mall | lies! |
| 20:17.04 | scanline | cwisty: after I'm done setting stuff up we should have a http://destinymm.navi.cx :) |
| 20:23.26 | scanline | wow |
| 20:23.36 | scanline | xsp spends a lot of time just calling gettimeofday() and nanosleep() |
| 20:25.53 | CIA-3 | spacegrant: 03evan * r1031 10mck/Cx/Hardware/Satellite.py: Typo: it's not a micront |
| 20:26.41 | lurgy | hmm |
| 20:26.49 | kergoth | @familyguy |
| 20:26.50 | kbot | kergoth: <Peter> Make like Siamese twins and split ... and then one of you die. |
| 20:26.56 | lurgy | From: Falsely B. Shoddiness |
| 20:26.57 | lurgy | Subject: How're you doing? |
| 20:27.10 | lurgy | it's a good thing spammers pick such believable names |
| 20:27.11 | lurgy | =p |
| 20:27.15 | kergoth | hehe |
| 20:27.18 | numist | no kidding |
| 20:27.26 | darth_mall | heh |
| 20:28.24 | *** join/#tacobeam file (~file@sjcc30x31.sjccnet.com) |
| 20:28.29 | darth_mall | hmm... I have class in 30 mins |
| 20:28.38 | darth_mall | I should probably print out my hw and get some coffee |
| 20:30.56 | hardwire | heh |
| 20:31.04 | hardwire | file: I am getting some demo 900mhz 2-way radios |
| 20:31.10 | file | cool |
| 20:31.13 | hardwire | 4 line phone gateway |
| 20:31.18 | hardwire | 8000 acres |
| 20:31.25 | file | the new Grandstream business phone is S-W-E-E-T |
| 20:31.31 | hardwire | file: yeh.. I need you to get me a dual fxs/fxo card |
| 20:31.33 | hardwire | pretty please |
| 20:31.34 | hardwire | thanks |
| 20:31.38 | file | ha no |
| 20:31.42 | file | Digium can't sell here |
| 20:31.45 | hardwire | heh |
| 20:31.48 | hardwire | well wave hi for me |
| 20:31.49 | hardwire | actually |
| 20:31.51 | hardwire | are you right there? |
| 20:31.57 | hardwire | can you ask them if their t1 cards support winkstart? |
| 20:31.57 | file | yes |
| 20:32.06 | file | lemme find Malcolm |
| 20:32.13 | hardwire | yeh |
| 20:32.17 | hardwire | thats the name Idavid gave me |
| 20:32.20 | hardwire | I couldn't find him |
| 20:32.22 | hardwire | heh |
| 20:32.26 | hardwire | I guess he is at VON |
| 20:32.33 | file | Malcolm Davenport? |
| 20:32.38 | hardwire | I believe so |
| 20:32.51 | file | yeah he's right... over... on machine2 |
| 20:33.51 | purple_cow | i love how these movies use the nazis as villians |
| 20:33.54 | file | and now he's elsewhere |
| 20:34.24 | file | hardwire: Malcolm says yes |
| 20:34.31 | file | e&m wink |
| 20:34.35 | CIA-3 | spacegrant: 03evan * r1032 10mck/PyMCK/ADCS/Controller.py: |
| 20:34.35 | CIA-3 | spacegrant: Didn't really make as much progress as I was planning, but it |
| 20:34.35 | CIA-3 | spacegrant: suddenly became almost class time. |
| 20:34.47 | kergoth | yay, my cold steel order arrives on thursday |
| 20:34.59 | darth_mall | later kids |
| 20:35.21 | hardwire | file: ok |
| 20:35.24 | hardwire | thats what I figured |
| 20:35.35 | hardwire | I just don't understand why these IBM dialers need E&M w/ the telecom |
| 20:35.37 | hardwire | its all outgoing |
| 20:35.42 | hardwire | that can be loop/kewl |
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| 20:47.49 | *** part/#tacobeam cwisty (~default@ec237-129-dhcp.colorado.edu) |
| 20:49.08 | purple_cow | evo development is so much fun |
| 20:49.25 | purple_cow | it always takes at least an hour to get the environment for it all built =P |
| 20:49.40 | kergoth | heh |
| 20:52.20 | scanline | yay |
| 20:52.26 | scanline | http://destinymm.navi.cx works |
| 20:52.39 | kergoth | whats destinymm? |
| 20:52.44 | scanline | our senior project |
| 20:52.48 | kergoth | ah |
| 20:52.49 | kergoth | erm, damnit |
| 20:52.54 | kergoth | i was registering a project on berlios |
| 20:52.56 | scanline | copied it from the slow machine at work to navi |
| 20:53.01 | kergoth | and hit the back button in the browser despite it telling me not to |
| 20:53.02 | kergoth | oops |
| 20:53.06 | scanline | hah |
| 20:53.08 | kergoth | now the project is all in this half registered state |
| 20:53.26 | scanline | ahhh |
| 20:53.38 | scanline | *so* much faster on a machine that actually has some RAM and CPU |
| 20:53.47 | scanline | rex makes a good svn server, but it just sucks at mono |
| 20:55.31 | scanline | hmm. actually looking forward to this vmware interview tomorrow. instead of answering a bunch of random CS puzzles, I get to talk about USB |
| 20:56.19 | purple_cow | scanline's leaving me! |
| 20:57.09 | scanline | I am? |
| 20:57.19 | scanline | hmm.. that's crappy. behind the apache proxy it thinks its URL is http://localhost:8080 |
| 20:57.25 | scanline | so the link it puts in lost password emails isn't right |
| 20:57.28 | scanline | might have to make that configurable |
| 20:58.35 | purple_cow | hrm |
| 20:58.51 | scanline | asp.net needs a twisted-style VirtualHostMonster :) |
| 21:01.32 | scanline | twisted might have got the idea from zope |
| 21:01.35 | scanline | but twisted has one |
| 21:01.48 | scanline | works nicely for CIA |
| 21:02.58 | scanline | CIA is so much more interesting as a web app than this :( |
| 21:03.08 | scanline | mostly because it actually has real users |
| 21:03.28 | scanline | though I guess it takes a lot to get me excited about a web app |
| 21:03.57 | CIA-3 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r7249 10evo/publish-calendar/url-editor-dialog.c: different e-passwords include path |
| 21:09.09 | CIA-3 | openembedded: 03kergoth 07 * r1.3005.1.1 10openembedded/packages/uclibc/ (uclibc_cvs.bb uclibc_0.9.27.bb uclibc_0.9.26.bb uclibc.inc): Change the uclibc builds to not default to enabling their iconv support. Now you'd have to explicitly set USE_NLS = yes or USE_NLS_uclibc = yes to enable it. |
| 21:14.24 | scanline | hehe |
| 21:14.40 | scanline | I half expect them to show clips of the same snake sliding past the same section of the wall |
| 21:14.47 | purple_cow | heh |
| 21:15.24 | purple_cow | hmm |
| 21:15.30 | purple_cow | my fan is spinning like the dickens |
| 21:15.48 | scanline | oh no, a crawly-bug |
| 21:15.56 | CIA-3 | spacegrant: 03maccarro * r1033 10mck/ (5 files in 4 dirs): Moved quaternion code into PyMCK/Types.py, added ground support for the Observable.Actuator class, implemented that into the ADCS controls, and added preliminary ground software support for it. Whew! |
| 21:16.07 | scanline | wow |
| 21:17.09 | scanline | yay for the therm receiver sittin' over there looking cute |
| 21:21.16 | scanline | http://flapjack.navi.cx/monitor/diskio/io_status-week.gif |
| 21:21.20 | CIA-3 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r7250 10evo/publish-calendar/url-editor-dialog.c: unref GladeXML instance once we're done with it |
| 21:21.30 | scanline | looks like except for that minor mishap thursday morning, the rate limiters have been working nicely |
| 21:21.45 | scanline | and that mishap was mostly just it running out of RAM |
| 21:22.16 | slimspace | scanline: what do you use for your DNS provider? |
| 21:22.48 | CIA-3 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r7251 10evo/publish-calendar/publish-calendar.glade: fix 'manual' entry to refer to the proper menu |
| 21:23.56 | scanline | slimspace: zoneedit |
| 21:24.20 | slimspace | ah |
| 21:24.39 | scanline | it's free for small numbers of domains, it's fast, and it's been pretty reliable |
| 21:25.00 | slimspace | cool |
| 21:25.00 | scanline | just doesn't have a lot of advanced options, like tweaking TTLs or IPv^ |
| 21:25.00 | scanline | er, IPv6 |
| 21:25.45 | scanline | you have a domain? |
| 21:32.03 | slimspace | scanline: no, there a good place to register one? |
| 21:33.19 | scanline | I've heard godaddy is good for the TLDs they support. I have picogui.org through dotster, which isn't bad, and navi.cx through netdns.cx (IIRC) |
| 21:33.45 | scanline | what are you registering? |
| 21:33.56 | slimspace | nothing as of yet, just exploring my options |
| 21:34.05 | scanline | I'm just curious what you want it for :) |
| 21:34.28 | slimspace | well, I want to set up a computer always accessable for things very similar to what you're using navi for. |
| 21:34.55 | scanline | i can give you a *.navi.cx subdomain really easily if that's enough |
| 21:35.00 | slimspace | Truth be told, I'd be fine right now if I just had direct access to golem without having to go through navi first. |
| 21:35.04 | slimspace | yeah, that's fine |
| 21:35.31 | scanline | well, we can forward individual ports, but there's really no way to give it its own IP right now |
| 21:35.44 | scanline | with web, navi can do vhosts and proxies |
| 21:35.51 | scanline | ssh you'd have to access on a weird port though |
| 21:35.55 | slimspace | yeah |
| 21:35.56 | CIA-3 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r7252 10evo/publish-calendar/url-editor-dialog.c: clear entry state when switching source types |
| 21:36.04 | slimspace | hmm... |
| 21:36.42 | slimspace | well, putting ssh on a weird port wouldn't be a big deal |
| 21:37.01 | slimspace | and the vhosting for web would be fine (I don't have apache currently, but that can be fixed) |
| 21:37.35 | slimspace | Ultimately I want to be able to store things onto it via svn (probably my documents), ssh directly, and copy things back and forth. Maybe set up a web page too |
| 21:37.39 | scanline | well, if you don't have anything already set up on your machine, a vhost served from navi or flapjack might be easier |
| 21:37.56 | scanline | flapjack has plenty of bandwidth, a little hard disk, and hardly any free RAM |
| 21:38.00 | scanline | so it's good for small static pages |
| 21:38.08 | scanline | but I can't really justify putting PHP on it |
| 21:38.14 | slimspace | I was thinking something more dynamic. |
| 21:38.19 | scanline | navi has PHP |
| 21:38.28 | scanline | and mod_python |
| 21:38.43 | slimspace | ok, then here's a question...why can |
| 21:38.46 | scanline | navi has a crapton of apache plugins |
| 21:38.52 | slimspace | 't I access navi.cx/~darkstar62? |
| 21:39.18 | scanline | that directory needs to be readable by apache |
| 21:39.25 | scanline | so your homedir needs o+x, and that dir needs o+rx |
| 21:39.31 | slimspace | it should be, world read/write, and it still can't. |
| 21:39.35 | slimspace | hmm... |
| 21:39.37 | scanline | your homedir isn't +x |
| 21:39.44 | slimspace | ah, ok |
| 21:40.03 | slimspace | now it is |
| 21:40.04 | scanline | hah |
| 21:40.05 | scanline | Apache/2.0.52 (Gentoo/Linux) mod_perl/1.99_11 Perl/v5.8.5 mod_python/3.0.4 Python/2.3.2 mod_ssl/2.0.52 OpenSSL/0.9.7d DAV/2 SVN/1.1.1 PHP/4.3.10 Server at navi.cx Port 80 |
| 21:40.12 | slimspace | wow |
| 21:40.22 | TD | heya guys |
| 21:40.26 | slimspace | bingo |
| 21:40.35 | scanline | yay, bingo |
| 21:40.44 | TD | how is it going scanline ? |
| 21:40.58 | slimspace | ok, now I can put stuff there. |
| 21:41.10 | scanline | not too bad... probably got a lot more to do this week than I have motivation for |
| 21:41.47 | TD | heh |
| 21:42.12 | slimspace | scanline: what would you suggest for having my own small svn server then? |
| 21:42.25 | TD | ChipX86: poke |
| 21:43.23 | scanline | slimspace: svn+ssh:// |
| 21:43.46 | slimspace | ah, cool |
| 21:44.26 | slimspace | any special setup for that, or just have subversion? |
| 21:45.12 | scanline | not really. just svnadmin create the repo somewhere in your homedir, then you can access it elsewhere using paths like svn+ssh://navi.cx/home/<username>/svn/foo/trunk/ |
| 21:45.26 | scanline | it will automagically tunnel a svnserve connection over ssh |
| 21:45.38 | slimspace | ah, nice |
| 21:46.07 | slimspace | alright, then let's do this...can I have port 32821 for ssh to golem? |
| 21:46.20 | scanline | I can try |
| 21:46.36 | slimspace | (I don't expect you to find anything there right now, golem is off) |
| 21:46.44 | scanline | mmkay |
| 21:49.30 | scanline | ok, I think it's set up |
| 21:49.52 | slimspace | cool, we'll see if it works in a few minutes |
| 21:50.22 | slimspace | hmm...I will have built a new kernel and rebooted remotely...never done that before. |
| 21:51.04 | scanline | ha |
| 21:51.06 | purple_cow | it's fun |
| 21:51.07 | slimspace | well, looks like something works. I got a ping |
| 21:51.29 | slimspace | cool, it works |
| 21:51.32 | scanline | port 32821 on both navi and navi-proxy should go to golem.. navi-proxy is forwarding it via navi |
| 21:51.33 | scanline | yay |
| 21:51.42 | slimspace | excellent |
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| 21:56.02 | Cae | ChipX86: poke |
| 21:57.49 | Cae | ChipX86: you love helping me with my homework, right? |
| 21:59.02 | CIA-3 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r7253 10evo/publish-calendar/url-editor-dialog.c: add another handful of "changed" handlers and some rudimentary sanity checking |
| 21:59.45 | Cae | right? :P |
| 22:02.42 | slimspace | scanline: I created a repository in /home/darkstar62/svn, but svn doesn't recognize it when I try to import to it. |
| 22:03.08 | scanline | you're using file:// or svn+ssh://? |
| 22:03.19 | slimspace | hmm...hold on, may have fixed it |
| 22:04.10 | slimspace | can I specify a port like svn+ssh://navi.cx:32821/<path>? |
| 22:04.23 | scanline | should be able to |
| 22:04.47 | scanline | remember that <path> needs to be a full path |
| 22:04.54 | slimspace | right. |
| 22:05.03 | slimspace | I got a documents branch in locally, but when I do: |
| 22:05.09 | slimspace | svn co svn+ssh://navi.cx:32821/home/darkstar62/svn/documents . |
| 22:05.13 | slimspace | I get: |
| 22:05.18 | slimspace | svn: No repository found in 'svn+ssh://navi.cx:32821/home/darkstar62/svn/documents' |
| 22:05.41 | scanline | so you have the repo itself at /home/darkstar62/svn? |
| 22:05.45 | scanline | hmm |
| 22:05.46 | slimspace | yeah, on golem |
| 22:05.50 | scanline | for my repo I use svn+ssh://navi.cx/home/micah/svn/school/trunk |
| 22:05.56 | kergoth | i got my new xpc :D |
| 22:05.57 | scanline | and the repo is at /home/micah/svn/school |
| 22:05.58 | scanline | works fine |
| 22:06.07 | scanline | kergoth: yay |
| 22:06.08 | purple_cow | hmm, lunch |
| 22:06.19 | scanline | hmmm |
| 22:06.27 | slimspace | doesn't matter the url, it doesn't accept it. |
| 22:06.54 | scanline | try doing a checkout on navi maybe, to see if the port is causing the problem |
| 22:07.14 | slimspace | I'm trying to do one locally |
| 22:07.15 | slimspace | hold on |
| 22:07.27 | kergoth | scanline: it annoys me that half the time i receive packages before anyone tells me it shipped |
| 22:07.31 | kergoth | heh |
| 22:07.34 | scanline | heh! |
| 22:07.48 | scanline | hmm |
| 22:08.03 | scanline | it occurs to me that maybe I should have another for all the random personal stuff I have on navi |
| 22:14.40 | ChipX86 | heh, missed the shuttle back :) they took an hour long break and I didn't know that |
| 22:14.49 | ChipX86 | cae: aww you're gone now :/ |
| 22:15.45 | slimspace | scanline: can I not use local paths like I can the http://? |
| 22:15.56 | scanline | you mean file://? |
| 22:16.07 | slimspace | in other words, does say file:// always have to be the path of a repository, or can it be a subdirectory within? |
| 22:16.16 | scanline | it can be a subdirectory |
| 22:16.23 | scanline | like file:///home/foo/svn/trunk |
| 22:16.26 | slimspace | hmm...totally not working for me then... |
| 22:16.28 | slimspace | yeah... |
| 22:16.54 | scanline | heh |
| 22:17.02 | slimspace | I tried commiting a directory 'documents' to file:///home/darkstar62/svn, and it went through, but now I can't check it out from file:///home/darkstar62/svn/documents.; |
| 22:17.36 | scanline | have you tried checking out the whole repository? |
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| 22:18.21 | pagefault | weee |
| 22:18.52 | slimspace | hmm...ok, that checked out, but not how i expected it to. |
| 22:20.55 | slimspace | ok, it works locally, but still no luck with svn+ssh...trying on navi |
| 22:21.00 | scanline | hmm |
| 22:21.20 | slimspace | ok, it works on navi |
| 22:21.33 | slimspace | so it won't work through the alternate port... |
| 22:21.42 | scanline | tried it from navi on the weird port? |
| 22:22.16 | slimspace | no, logged into navi, and tried to get it straight from golem over the normal port. That worked. But, I try from blacknova through navi at the weird port, and it doesn't work. |
| 22:22.22 | slimspace | Even though I can ssh through that. |
| 22:22.41 | scanline | try it from navi on the weird port- that will narrow it down to a problem with the port or a problem with your machine's svn |
| 22:23.08 | kergoth | hmm |
| 22:23.17 | kergoth | i need to think of a name for the new box |
| 22:23.19 | slimspace | ok, that's a no-go |
| 22:23.25 | scanline | ok |
| 22:23.37 | slimspace | It did connect through ssh though. |
| 22:23.42 | scanline | so maybe there's some odd way of setting up the port. or maybe you're stuck with keeping the svn repo on navi |
| 22:23.52 | slimspace | hmm... |
| 22:24.04 | slimspace | I think it connected to navi's own ssh, not through my port. |
| 22:24.20 | slimspace | yeah, it's completely ignoring the port number. |
| 22:33.13 | darth_mall | scanline! |
| 22:33.21 | ChipX86 | cool, a time machine on ebay |
| 22:33.32 | purple_cow | link? |
| 22:33.44 | scanline | what kind of flux capacitor does it use? |
| 22:33.55 | ChipX86 | it doesn't have one |
| 22:33.56 | ChipX86 | one sec |
| 22:34.10 | scanline | er, farad/meter^2 |
| 22:34.22 | purple_cow | what the hell kind of time machine doesn't have a flux capacitor? |
| 22:34.22 | ChipX86 | http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5563490518 |
| 22:34.29 | ChipX86 | I know! |
| 22:34.34 | ChipX86 | I think it's broken |
| 22:35.01 | CIA-3 | spacegrant: 03evan * r1034 10mck/PyMCK/ADCS/Controller.py: Import the quaternion stuff |
| 22:35.48 | scanline | ChipX86: haha |
| 22:35.57 | scanline | darth_mall: on campus? interested in lunch? |
| 22:36.37 | ChipX86 | nooo, not silvermine |
| 22:37.13 | ChipX86 | http://www.google.com/search?ie=UTF8&q=galacy |
| 22:37.13 | ChipX86 | *grin* |
| 22:40.39 | purple_cow | heh |
| 22:41.15 | kergoth | hrm |
| 22:41.17 | kergoth | thats odd |
| 22:41.24 | kergoth | i hook up a network cable to the xpc |
| 22:41.35 | kergoth | and it fails to enable the interface |
| 22:41.38 | kergoth | looks like no link |
| 22:41.41 | kergoth | hmm |
| 22:41.48 | kergoth | same cable works fine on another box |
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| 22:48.41 | ChipX86 | yay, ran across my error message |
| 22:49.16 | ChipX86 | "Do you honestly think you can clone this virtual machine? We're talking about the same one, right? The one with no snapshots, the template one, the <b>uncloneable</b> one, right? How far exactly were you expecting to go with that? It's just not going to happen. Now go on and press your little Cancel button." |
| 22:50.10 | purple_cow | :) |
| 22:55.13 | numist | haha, nice Chip |
| 22:55.26 | kergoth | nice |
| 22:55.31 | pagefault | vmware says |
| 22:55.33 | pagefault | it expires in 5 days |
| 22:55.37 | pagefault | I thought I had 90 days |
| 22:55.44 | numist | oops |
| 22:55.44 | ChipX86 | *shrug* |
| 22:55.46 | ChipX86 | you have 5 days |
| 22:55.48 | ChipX86 | don't worry about it though |
| 22:56.07 | pagefault | or is that just that build of beta |
| 22:56.21 | ChipX86 | the whole company |
| 22:56.25 | ChipX86 | we're packing up and leaving |
| 22:56.30 | numist | ...? |
| 22:56.31 | pagefault | oh |
| 22:56.34 | pagefault | you should like |
| 22:56.37 | pagefault | steal the source |
| 22:56.42 | ChipX86 | 5 more days until we're out of business. It's a shame. |
| 22:57.21 | ChipX86 | yeah don't worry about the beta |
| 22:57.42 | kergoth | yay, xpc's network is all happy now |
| 22:58.01 | kergoth | its so nice looking and quiet, i love it |
| 22:58.09 | pagefault | I got WoW |
| 22:58.13 | ChipX86 | oh no |
| 22:58.15 | ChipX86 | we've lost pagefault! |
| 22:58.16 | pagefault | I mean |
| 22:58.23 | pagefault | enter key was pressed |
| 22:58.26 | pagefault | I got WoW so close |
| 22:58.30 | pagefault | to getting it working in vmware |
| 22:58.59 | pagefault | involved writing my own opengl32 wrapper application |
| 22:59.09 | pagefault | but I think I will have to wait on the driver for updates |
| 22:59.09 | numist | ChipX86: ... |
| 22:59.22 | ChipX86 | numist: ...? |
| 23:00.44 | numist | ChipX86: vmware? out of business? I do hope this is another of your jokes |
| 23:00.49 | ChipX86 | most things are |
| 23:01.22 | numist | ... |
| 23:01.30 | numist | I wonder about you sometimes... |
| 23:01.36 | ChipX86 | I know, me too :( |
| 23:01.59 | numist | so, out of clarification... you *were* kidding, right? |
| 23:02.10 | ChipX86 | yeah, I only put that error message in the debug builds |
| 23:02.31 | numist | ok |
| 23:02.52 | ChipX86 | but really, are these the eyes of a crazy man?! http://www.destroymornings.com/images/eyes.png |
| 23:03.41 | numist | um... Im in term, but Im going to guess yes |
| 23:04.00 | ChipX86 | good |
| 23:04.06 | ChipX86 | I sure was hoping so |
| 23:04.24 | numist | beta 5 lasts for 5 days? thats ironic |
| 23:04.30 | ChipX86 | it's not beta 5 |
| 23:04.31 | numist | workstation 5 beta pro I mean |
| 23:04.31 | ChipX86 | it's RC2 |
| 23:05.36 | ChipX86 | what's Workstation 5 beta pro? |
| 23:06.04 | ChipX86 | and it expires on a set date |
| 23:06.06 | numist | I made up the pro part... but the rest is there |
| 23:06.09 | numist | ah damn |
| 23:06.21 | ChipX86 | and we place htose dates for a reason. We're not being evil horrible people |
| 23:06.42 | ChipX86 | either we bring out another beta by that date, or we release a product |
| 23:06.44 | ChipX86 | it's a *beta* :P |
| 23:06.47 | numist | well thats good |
| 23:06.51 | numist | heh |
| 23:07.32 | TD | ChipX86 is an evil horrible person |
| 23:07.41 | ChipX86 | TD: only some of the time |
| 23:07.41 | TD | he WANTS you to crave his warez. that way he has POWER over you |
| 23:07.44 | numist | really? |
| 23:07.46 | TD | like some kind of drug dealer |
| 23:07.47 | numist | ah |
| 23:07.49 | purple_cow | heh |
| 23:08.06 | TD | me? i'm a cuddly fluffy bunny rabbit of a person |
| 23:08.13 | ChipX86 | and a drunk |
| 23:08.17 | ChipX86 | always with you and the alcohol |
| 23:08.21 | numist | ... |
| 23:08.21 | TD | true |
| 23:08.27 | ChipX86 | and the gay bars |
| 23:08.33 | numist | 0_o |
| 23:08.35 | TD | not just gay bars |
| 23:08.39 | ChipX86 | which would be fine if they were for men |
| 23:08.43 | TD | ahahah |
| 23:08.43 | numist | oh first time I read that I thought it said gay bears! |
| 23:08.43 | ChipX86 | but noo, you have to go to the other kind |
| 23:08.45 | TD | eggxactly |
| 23:08.56 | TD | that's not the half of it |
| 23:13.04 | purple_cow | heh |
| 23:14.29 | numist | damnit the google guy didnt call |
| 23:17.19 | ChipX86 | my panel claims it's foggy outside |
| 23:17.25 | ChipX86 | someone might want to notify the weather of that |
| 23:17.39 | numist | weather is just dropping the ball |
| 23:17.41 | TD | heh |
| 23:17.57 | TD | maybe it thinks you moved to the UK to work for a law firm |
| 23:18.03 | TD | panels can be psychic like that |
| 23:18.16 | numist | yeah, its probably foggy in britain at the moment |
| 23:18.18 | TD | ahahahaha |
| 23:18.20 | TD | "Arm Wrestling Robots Beaten By A Teenage Girl" |
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| 23:21.08 | *** topic/#tacobeam is There's only one way back into a woman's heart and parts beyond: karaoke |
| 23:22.31 | purple_cow | grumble |
| 23:22.39 | purple_cow | this planet gnome thing is growing old |
| 23:22.45 | ChipX86 | yes. |
| 23:22.55 | TD | it was old zero seconds after it started |
| 23:22.56 | ChipX86 | I just type light and hit enter |
| 23:23.37 | purple_cow | TD: well, yeah, but i can put up with stupidity for a while... |
| 23:23.53 | TD | heh |
| 23:23.57 | TD | ChipX86: huh? |
| 23:24.06 | ChipX86 | ? |
| 23:24.21 | TD | type light? |
| 23:24.22 | TD | cb |
| 23:24.32 | ChipX86 | what? |
| 23:24.33 | ChipX86 | OH |
| 23:24.45 | ChipX86 | type-ahead search for "light" and hit enter in planet gnome |
| 23:26.57 | TD | ChipX86: ahaha |
| 23:27.02 | TD | ChipX86: i hadn't noticed that was a link |
| 23:27.05 | TD | very good, well done |
| 23:27.42 | ChipX86 | :D |
| 23:28.15 | ChipX86 | heh Nat has a yellow Click Me link |
| 23:28.39 | TD | yeah i saw that |
| 23:34.36 | ChipX86 | yayyy |
| 23:34.38 | ChipX86 | Katamari on the Rocks |
| 23:35.37 | ChipX86 | well screw you too evolution |
| 23:35.53 | ChipX86 | I didn't *really* need to send that e-mail |
| 23:36.35 | ChipX86 | ooh it saved the message |
| 23:37.40 | purple_cow | heh |
| 23:40.01 | kergoth | heh |
| 23:40.23 | ChipX86 | (15:38:24) jameslin: VMware ACE specifications: |
| 23:40.24 | ChipX86 | Display: 16-bit display adapter recommended; greater than 8-bit display adapter required. |
| 23:40.26 | ChipX86 | (15:39:24) jameslin: I wasn't aware that people commonly use 12- and 15-bpp display adapters on desktops... |
| 23:41.08 | darth_mall | ouch... my brain |
| 23:41.46 | *** join/#tacobeam GarlicWarrior (~Jason@ec237-82-dhcp.colorado.edu) |
| 23:42.18 | GarlicWarrior | ugh |
| 23:45.03 | darth_mall | bleeeeeeeeeeeeh |
| 23:45.44 | lurgy | erm |
| 23:45.50 | lurgy | i can't get to xchat-gnome.navi.cx right now |
| 23:45.57 | lurgy | at least not from inside our NAT |
| 23:46.07 | GarlicWarrior | weird |
| 23:46.20 | purple_cow | lurgy: do you have a hosts entry for it? |
| 23:46.41 | lurgy | yes |
| 23:47.04 | lurgy | i'm getting navi.cx instead of xchat-gnome.navi.cx |
| 23:47.06 | purple_cow | that's your problem |
| 23:47.14 | lurgy | it is? |
| 23:47.17 | purple_cow | yep |
| 23:47.47 | lurgy | mmmmkay |
| 23:47.50 | darth_mall | lurgy: x-g.navi.cx is now on flapjack |
| 23:47.54 | darth_mall | so you don't need a hosts entry |
| 23:48.20 | purple_cow | pfft, darth_mall's spoiling the surprise |
| 23:48.29 | ChipX86 | SURPRISE! |
| 23:48.57 | GarlicWarrior | well, wb Chip |
| 23:49.00 | lurgy | well |
| 23:49.03 | ChipX86 | I never left |
| 23:49.05 | lurgy | heh |
| 23:49.07 | GarlicWarrior | heh |
| 23:49.14 | darth_mall | hih |
| 23:49.19 | GarlicWarrior | well then what's the surprise? |
| 23:49.25 | ChipX86 | it was for lurgy |
| 23:49.28 | lurgy | when i take it out of hosts and quit firefox and stuff and restart it |
| 23:49.34 | GarlicWarrior | hehe, got it |
| 23:49.37 | lurgy | i still just see navi.cx =/ |
| 23:49.43 | lurgy | hmm |
| 23:50.13 | lurgy | ah, it's just not reloading that |
| 23:50.17 | lurgy | yay |
| 23:52.37 | lurgy | hehe, you know what pango needs? |
| 23:52.41 | lurgy | css support :P |
| 23:52.53 | lurgy | now *that* would be a recipe for speediness |
| 23:52.55 | darth_mall | heh |
| 23:53.05 | lurgy | you could have a desktopwide stylesheet! :P |
| 23:53.21 | ChipX86 | that's almost as bad as wnating to use mozilla for rendering popup notifications |
| 23:53.23 | scanline | hmm |
| 23:53.29 | scanline | so my rio rebooted a couple more times |
| 23:53.33 | ChipX86 | hmm |
| 23:53.37 | ChipX86 | mine hasn't done that |
| 23:53.40 | scanline | I think it might be ESD.. it's only happened in my staticky coat pocket |
| 23:53.54 | ChipX86 | you should disable ESD. It sucks anyway! |
| 23:53.55 | purple_cow | kerzap! |
| 23:53.57 | scanline | yep |
| 23:54.07 | scanline | never done that in the dock, on the table, or in my jeans |
| 23:54.08 | ChipX86 | esd -nodischarge |
| 23:54.14 | scanline | :) |
| 23:54.15 | lurgy | ChipX86: hehe |
| 23:54.27 | pagefault | why does gnome insist on using a sound manager anyway |
| 23:54.41 | lurgy | pagefault: it doesn't, if you shut it off |
| 23:54.42 | lurgy | :) |
| 23:54.45 | scanline | or I could line my coat pockets with that material |
| 23:55.00 | pagefault | lurgy, yeah I know but then I don't get any fancy sounds |
| 23:55.00 | ChipX86 | you should align it with socks |
| 23:55.16 | ChipX86 | pagefault: Multimedia System Selector |
| 23:55.18 | scanline | yay |
| 23:55.40 | pagefault | ChipX86, I mean't like when I click on an icon or something |
| 23:55.52 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 23:56.01 | ChipX86 | you should just be able to change it to ALSA or OSS |
| 23:56.07 | pagefault | you can't enable sounds for events unless a server is loaded |
| 23:56.16 | kergoth | haha |
| 23:56.24 | kergoth | windows jsut gave me an error |
| 23:56.28 | ChipX86 | wow! |
| 23:56.32 | kergoth | "Internet Explorer: Stack overflow at line XX" |
| 23:56.34 | kergoth | :\ |
| 23:56.35 | pagefault | so I just keep esd running |
| 23:56.40 | pagefault | it doesn't interfere with anything |
| 23:56.52 | ChipX86 | kergoth: haha |
| 23:57.04 | ChipX86 | silly IE |
| 23:57.05 | lurgy | pagefault: not a big fan of oss? :) |
| 23:57.16 | pagefault | lurgy, well prefer ALSA |
| 23:57.25 | ChipX86 | I don't think I get it.. |
| 23:57.26 | pagefault | but I am stuck using oss with nvidia's drivers |
| 23:57.28 | ChipX86 | it uses gstreamer to play sounds |
| 23:57.32 | ChipX86 | and you can change it to use ALSA |
| 23:57.34 | TD | i hate all of them |
| 23:57.44 | ChipX86 | or to use OSS |
| 23:57.45 | pagefault | ChipX86, i'm not talking about gnome based applications |
| 23:57.50 | pagefault | I am talking about the sound events |
| 23:57.53 | pagefault | like closing a window |
| 23:57.53 | lurgy | pagefault: aw :( |
| 23:57.54 | pagefault | or whatnot |
| 23:57.58 | ChipX86 | pagefault: so am I |
| 23:58.03 | pagefault | well then I am lost |
| 23:58.07 | ChipX86 | they all use gstreamer |
| 23:58.08 | pagefault | because the "enable sound events" checkbox is greyed out |
| 23:58.11 | ChipX86 | you can change the default output for gstreamer |
| 23:58.35 | ChipX86 | I have mine using alsa instead of esd right now |
| 23:58.43 | ChipX86 | and I still get my sounds |
| 23:58.51 | ChipX86 | Multimedia Systems Selector in Preferences |
| 23:58.55 | pagefault | yes I have that set |
| 23:59.07 | pagefault | I am talking about Sound preferences |
| 23:59.14 | ChipX86 | that's all enabled for me still |
| 23:59.24 | ChipX86 | and I get sound effects still |
| 23:59.27 | pagefault | sounds for events is greyed out for me |
| 23:59.32 | pagefault | unless I enable a server |
| 23:59.45 | ChipX86 | a server? |
| 23:59.57 | ChipX86 | ohh I see |
| 23:59.57 | pagefault | a sound server |
