irclog2html for #tacobeam on 20050307

`00:00.03`	`cwisty`	`it's spelled Christy`
`00:00.08`	`cwisty`	`duh`
`00:00.08`	`cwisty`	`;-)`
`00:00.37`	`cwisty`	`just cause you misspell something consistantly donesn't make it right`
`00:00.54`	`TD`	`indeed. consistently is important ;)`
`00:01.02`	`TD`	`er`
`00:01.05`	`ChipX86`	`:P`
`00:01.06`	`TD`	`grammar moreso, however`
`00:01.19`	`darth_mall`	`it's kind of like pouring hot tar in your crotch`
`00:01.25`	`TD`	`haha`
`00:01.26`	`ChipX86`	`OOo 2 looks nice`
`00:01.28`	`darth_mall`	`no matter how many times you do it, it's still a bad idea`
`00:01.30`	`TD`	`ugh`
`00:01.31`	`kergoth`	`ChipX86: indeed`
`00:01.35`	`TD`	`ChipX86: they cloned the o2k3 toolbar style`
`00:01.36`	`TD`	`how lame`
`00:01.54`	`ChipX86`	`abiword has never worked well for me`
`00:01.59`	`ChipX86`	`on every computer I've used, it has proven buggy`
`00:02.01`	`TD`	`it's fairly buggy, yeah`
`00:02.07`	`darth_mall`	`dune buggy!`
`00:02.13`	`ChipX86`	`I applaud the effort, but I can't use a word processor if it's just going to crash on me`
`00:02.21`	`darth_mall`	`wuss`
`00:02.27`	`TD`	`it doesn't crash for me. it has rendering errors instead`
`00:02.28`	`darth_mall`	`crashing builds character`
`00:02.38`	`TD`	`they should take the windows approach`
`00:02.40`	`ChipX86`	`i've lost documents by trying to save, trying to print..`
`00:02.43`	`ChipX86`	`granted that's been a while`
`00:02.44`	`TD`	`just install a no-op segfault handler`
`00:02.51`	`ChipX86`	`heh`
`00:03.10`	`ChipX86`	`that's sick`
`00:03.48`	`ChipX86`	`brb`
`00:04.12`	`TD`	`ahahahah`
`00:04.13`	`TD`	`"`
`00:04.14`	`TD`	`p.s. if new users would keep comming with this rate, people would have to increase their sex activity just to provide new linux users in about 20 years."`
`00:04.21`	`TD`	`what a weird quote`
`00:04.48`	`scanline`	`better get started now...`
`00:06.14`	`slimspace`	`TD: :)`
`00:06.52`	`slimspace`	`yay, beagle works again`
`00:10.20`	`darth_mall`	`cwisty: check your pockets`
`00:10.28`	`cwisty`	`already did`
`00:10.39`	`cwisty`	`and I don't have any pockets right now actually`
`00:10.47`	`darth_mall`	`check scanline's pockets`
`05:14.17`	`*** join/#tacobeam jbot (ibot@apt.bot.TimRiker.active.supporter.pdpc)`
`05:14.17`	`*** topic/#tacobeam is Even with an IQ of 6000, it's still brown trousers time \|\| for dark is the suede that mows like a harvest`
`05:18.06`	`lurgy`	`thanks fer the tea darth_mall`
`05:27.34`	`kergoth`	`bleh`
`05:36.16`	`KeyserSoze`	`might be easier to dis-gun an arm, than dis-arm a gun`
`05:36.25`	`KeyserSoze`	`depending on the sizes of the gun and arm respectively`
`05:37.59`	`lurgy`	`oh no, here we go`
`05:38.04`	`purple_cow`	`lurgy: hehe`
`05:38.59`	`lurgy`	`"but wait, supposing your opponent is a 63-foot-tall grasshopper, do you really think a gun will be useful at close range THEN?"`
`05:39.11`	`KeyserSoze`	`if there's one thing i learned from television, it's to shoot people from afar`
`05:39.27`	`KeyserSoze`	`that actually hasn't proven useful in real life, but you know what I mean`
`05:39.59`	`purple_cow`	`lurgy: i think the major problem is that darth_mall was arguing about something different than i was :P`
`05:40.12`	`lurgy`	`yes it was`
`05:40.15`	`kergoth`	`heh`
`05:40.42`	`lurgy`	`you were making arbitrary and unfounded assumptions about how good the defender is, and he was making arbitrary and unfounded assumptions about how good of a shot the assailant was :)`
`05:41.22`	`purple_cow`	`i was saying that that a gun is less of a sure thing when it was within reach, and he was arguing that it was difficult to disarm a gun :P`
`05:42.07`	`lurgy`	`see? you're assuming the person can shoot worth something, making a distance a good idea`
`05:42.12`	`lurgy`	`:)`
`05:42.27`	`purple_cow`	`lurgy: yes, but in the case of someone who can't hit the broad side of a barn, none of this matters at all, does it?`
`05:42.40`	`lurgy`	`exactly`
`05:43.19`	`KeyserSoze`	`well, if you are 10 feet away and outside, obviously you should run away from someone with a gun`
`05:43.25`	`lurgy`	`just like if the person is permanently disabled and has no hope of disarming the gun, then none of it matters either`
`05:43.35`	`lurgy`	`making the entire argument pretty silly :)`
`05:44.40`	`purple_cow`	`lurgy: well, i was trying to point out that ashvin/asa's latching onto the idea wasn't entirely fallacious, even if their response to it was :P`
`05:44.58`	`lurgy`	`hehe`
`05:45.45`	`purple_cow`	`because i agree with them that if i'm within easy striking distance of an opponent, there are weapons i'd rather have than a gun`
`05:46.01`	`KeyserSoze`	`like a car`
`05:46.08`	`purple_cow`	`exactly`
`05:48.10`	`kergoth`	`bleh`
`05:52.21`	`purple_cow`	`this engaging discussion is brought to you by Thompson's Teeth: the only teeth strong enough to eat other teeth`
`05:56.55`	`*** topic/#tacobeam by purple_cow -> And the other hamburger will also be made of your lungs`
`06:01.30`	`ChipX86`	`yay`
`06:02.08`	`ChipX86`	`we got Megan a working CD burner`
`06:13.55`	`purple_cow`	`hmm`
`06:14.19`	`purple_cow`	`scanline: it actually looks like fyre 2.0 is about a perfect scope for the OOP project :)`
`06:15.32`	`purple_cow`	`at least with our level of experience`
`06:20.18`	`purple_cow`	`well, maybe not`
`06:20.36`	`scanline`	`heh`
`06:20.56`	`purple_cow`	`2 weeks for implementation is a little optimistic ;)`
`06:22.02`	`scanline`	`uhhuh`
`06:22.22`	`scanline`	`when's all that crap taking place?`
`06:23.44`	`purple_cow`	`he posted the info about it today`
`06:24.29`	`purple_cow`	`i love how he gives us a bunch of example domains and then says "these problems are all way too big!"`
`06:25.41`	`cwisty`	`the little web site that could 58 MB`
`06:27.33`	`scanline`	`-rw-r--r-- 1 micah users 112397 Mar 6 23:27 destinymm-20050306-source.pdf`
`06:27.33`	`scanline`	`-rw-r--r-- 1 micah users 37529497 Mar 6 23:26 destinymm-20050306.tar.gz`
`06:28.10`	`scanline`	`uploading to flapjack...`
`06:28.22`	`kergoth`	`yay for the welling of myh lip almost being gone`
`06:28.29`	`kergoth`	`swelling, even`
`06:28.39`	`kergoth`	`~emulate gir`
`06:28.40`	`jbot`	`you SHALL not pass! .. he went that way.`
`06:28.42`	`purple_cow`	`obviously the swelling of your fingers hasn't abated`
`06:29.16`	`purple_cow`	`words! nothing but sweet, sweet words that turn into bitter orange wax in my ears`
`06:35.48`	`purple_cow`	`time to go get wet and naked!`
`06:47.23`	`cwisty`	`Ow!`
`06:47.52`	`cwisty`	`takin a porn shower are you?`
`06:48.00`	`ChipX86`	`mmm porn shower`
`06:48.50`	`scanline`	`mmm`
`06:48.57`	`scanline`	`almost ready to turn this in`
`06:49.13`	`*** join/#tacobeam lalo (~lalo@211.99.140.115)`
`06:49.17`	`scanline`	`if only cwisty had no paper to write, we could all spend lotsa time doing more fun stuff`
`06:50.24`	`*** join/#tacobeam Nara (~Stardustc@adsl-66-122-185-170.dsl.chic01.pacbell.net)`
`06:50.36`	`Nara`	`MWAHAHAHA! I LIIIIVVVE!`
`06:50.42`	`kergoth`	`eep`
`06:50.43`	`scanline`	`oh no, it's Nara!`
`06:50.46`	`ChipX86`	`Nara :D`
`06:51.06`	`Nara`	`barely alive though`
`06:51.09`	`ChipX86`	`:(`
`06:51.32`	`ChipX86`	`is there anything aside from the coughing now?`
`06:51.44`	`rioter`	`i got cough medicine!`
`06:52.31`	`Nara`	`Chip: snot and lots of it`
`06:54.01`	`ChipX86`	`sounds like a blast.`
`06:54.29`	`ChipX86`	`grumble I want a credit card again`
`06:54.57`	`kergoth`	`funny, i want to get rid of mine`
`06:54.59`	`kergoth`	`damn debts`
`06:55.05`	`ChipX86`	`heh`
`06:55.11`	`Nara`	`So what're all my favorite geeks up to?`
`06:55.25`	`ChipX86`	`I just paid off mine, and now I don't even have one. Bank of America has to send me a new one, since some guy in some country tried to use mine today`
`06:55.32`	`kergoth`	`eep`
`06:55.33`	`kergoth`	`thats no good`
`06:55.38`	`ChipX86`	`attempted a $750 charge`
`06:56.03`	`ChipX86`	`Nara: sitting around, enjoying the heat of this portable heater, and that's about it`
`06:56.11`	`rioter`	`thats sucky`
`06:58.51`	`ChipX86`	`Drawn Together is a weird show`
`06:58.55`	`kergoth`	`yep`
`06:59.09`	`ChipX86`	`"Mwahahaha! I shall steal this lamp for no particular reason!"`
`06:59.20`	`rioter`	`ChipX86 gets alot wierder as well`
`07:00.11`	`ChipX86`	`wow, the amount of potentially offensive material in one episode is mind-boggling`
`07:00.14`	`Nara`	`Oh hey Chip. We got a HD tv and we're getting Tivo`
`07:00.19`	`ChipX86`	`ooohhhhh`
`07:00.20`	`ChipX86`	`nice :)`
`07:00.26`	`ChipX86`	`how did that happen?`
`07:01.05`	`Nara`	`Are old tv has magnet damage, and there was a sale. My parents are crazy`
`07:01.10`	`Nara`	`are=our`
`07:01.18`	`kergoth`	`yay, hd`
`07:01.20`	`ChipX86`	`is it widescreen?`
`07:01.27`	`ChipX86`	`I need to buy an HDTV. I just don't want to spend the money right now`
`07:01.32`	`ChipX86`	`s/need/want/`
`07:01.44`	`Nara`	`yes, widescreen. its soooo huge`
`07:01.47`	`ChipX86`	`mmmm`
`07:01.58`	`ChipX86`	`I will have to see that :)`
`07:02.00`	`Nara`	`We have to put it on the coffee table`
`07:02.29`	`ChipX86`	`speaking of which, when I'm in town easter weekend, can Jamie and I head over to your place, maybe after we all have dinner at Yume?`
`07:02.43`	`Nara`	`Sure!`
`07:02.48`	`ChipX86`	`:D`
`07:03.20`	`ChipX86`	`nice :D`
`07:03.36`	`ChipX86`	`that'll be a fun week I'm sure`
`07:04.40`	`Nara`	`oh yessss....so good, so quiet`
`07:04.53`	`ChipX86`	`:)`
`07:05.09`	`ChipX86`	`did you and Rachael end up solving the whole room rearranging thing?`
`07:05.41`	`Nara`	`yeah, she did it anyway and I'm loathe to admit its nice to have a change and it feels like there's more room`
`07:05.55`	`ChipX86`	`that's good`
`07:08.53`	`CIA-3`	`galago: 03chipx86 * r1516 10libgalago-gtk/ (ChangeLog tests/test-presence-icon.c): Removed the "Show protocol icon" checkbox and replaced it with a combobox/optionmenu (depending on gtk version) for selecting the icon precedence type.`
`07:09.44`	`*** join/#tacobeam lalo (~lalo@211.99.140.115)`
`07:10.55`	`purple_cow`	`hehe, yay for freevo's random choosing "where no fan has gone before"`
`07:11.30`	`purple_cow`	`this episode never gets old :)`
`07:23.45`	`CIA-3`	`navi-misc: 03jupiter * r7236 10xchat-gnome/fe-gnome/ (5 files): hook up more color prefs stuff`
`07:23.48`	`ChipX86`	`yay, she called, and I can't believe how short a call that was`
`07:25.37`	`purple_cow`	`and we could tie these caterpillars together to make bowstrings for bows and arrows!`
`07:25.39`	`*** join/#tacobeam JeffM2501 (~JeffM@Patlabor221.active.supporter.pdpc)`
`07:29.39`	`CIA-3`	`galago: 03chipx86 * r1517 10libgalago-gtk/ (ChangeLog libgalago-gtk/galago-gdk-pixbuf.c): Add back support for generic presence icons.`
`07:35.44`	`*** join/#tacobeam luqui (~fibonaci@128.138.74.40)`
`07:41.03`	`CIA-3`	`navi-misc: 03jupiter * r7237 10xchat-gnome/fe-gnome/ (3 files): finish moving implementations over`
`07:42.48`	`Nara`	`MY KINGDOM FOR A WHITE GEL PEN! dies X___x;;`
`07:43.05`	`ChipX86`	`you need redundant gel pens`
`07:43.19`	`ChipX86`	`and a little glass box with backup pens that you have to break to get inside`
`07:43.20`	`purple_cow`	`heh`
`07:44.07`	`Nara`	`lol`
`07:44.54`	`ChipX86`	`I want to attempt animation of some sort. Perhaps like Rejected or Billy's Balloon`
`07:45.40`	`CIA-3`	`navi-misc: 03jupiter * r7238 10xchat-gnome/fe-gnome/ (preferences-dialog.c xchat-gnome.glade): Now this is what I call a thousand years of progress: a bavarian-creme dog that's also self microwaving!`
`07:45.57`	`kergoth`	`hehe`
`07:46.06`	`kergoth`	`@futurama`
`07:46.07`	`kbot`	`kergoth: <Bender> Well I don't have anything else planned for today, let's get drunk!`
`07:49.42`	`purple_cow`	`hahaha`
`07:50.09`	`purple_cow`	`i'd never realized that the national anthem on zoidberg's planet was the star trek fight-to-the-death music :)`
`07:53.15`	`ChipX86`	`inspiration.. missing.. cookie box.. unopened..`
`07:54.28`	`purple_cow`	`sounds like you can kill two birds with one box cutter`
`08:00.54`	`purple_cow`	`and there's professor moriarty....jack the ripper....evil lincoln!`
`08:04.57`	`ChipX86`	`I made a little pez guy, but it sucks`
`08:06.40`	`purple_cow`	`our love has had to endure your constant hatred, and now this?! STOP TESTING OUR LOVE!!`
`08:08.22`	`ChipX86`	`squeekl`
`08:08.40`	`Nara`	`Makes me wanna call you so I can hear those squeaky noises`
`08:08.44`	`Nara`	`>__<`
`08:08.46`	`ChipX86`	`feel free :)`
`08:08.51`	`Nara`	`too busy`
`08:09.18`	`Nara`	`fuck...Dell's crying....brb`
`08:09.21`	`ChipX86`	`:((`
`08:10.38`	`Nara`	`I am so fucking pissed at the people in my house today`
`08:10.43`	`ChipX86`	`what happened?`
`08:11.47`	`Nara`	`Dell's sick with what I just had, so she wants everyone to baby her, and since I'm not doing that, she's gonna cry like a baby, even though she freaking 18 and no one babied me while I was sick`
`08:11.58`	`purple_cow`	`Nara: :(`
`08:12.01`	`ChipX86`	`:(`
`08:12.08`	`rioter`	`Nara oh sounds fun`
`08:12.09`	`ChipX86`	`you need to get out of the house for a few daysw`
`08:12.10`	`*** join/#tacobeam Samy (~samy@212.76.88.142)`
`08:12.34`	`Nara`	`And I bring this up and mom says I'm being mean and I don't deserve to be around Dell`
`08:13.01`	`purple_cow`	`luqui: cool`
`08:13.26`	`luqui`	`I have it posted at luqui.org if you're interested`
`08:13.53`	`ChipX86`	`Nara: sigh that's ridiculous.. you know, any time you want, hop on a train and head here for a couple days. I'll pay for the ticket`
`08:14.09`	`Nara`	`Thanks`
`08:14.50`	`ChipX86`	`any time except for next week`
`08:15.05`	`rioter`	`mmm ChipX86 women seem to trust you, whats your secret :\|`
`08:15.18`	`luqui`	`trustworthiness?`
`08:15.30`	`purple_cow`	`luqui: heh, if you want me to take a look at the 'cello part sometime for feasability, i can`
`08:15.43`	`ChipX86`	`I dunno.. ask them I guess`
`08:15.53`	`luqui`	`i think I fixed it in the new revision, but that'd be great anyway`
`08:15.59`	`luqui`	`I'll send you a pdf soon`
`08:16.56`	`purple_cow`	`heh, yay midi :P`
`08:17.20`	`luqui`	`you're not listening to the midi version are you?`
`08:17.23`	`purple_cow`	`no`
`08:18.10`	`purple_cow`	`but the mp3 is pretty much the same, right?`
`08:19.08`	`luqui`	`yeah, if you've got a good soundfont`
`08:19.22`	`luqui`	`which most people don't`
`08:19.34`	`luqui`	`(i need new brass in mine, but other than that, it's pretty good)`
`08:19.35`	`purple_cow`	`some of these patches leave a lot to be desired :P`
`08:19.42`	`purple_cow`	`like all of the woodwinds and brass`
`08:20.41`	`purple_cow`	`piano is pretty good`
`08:20.53`	`luqui`	`I spent a lot of time searching for and tweaking that one`
`08:23.12`	`purple_cow`	`what form is this supposed to be? :P`
`08:23.38`	`luqui`	`I roughly followed rach 3`
`08:23.40`	`luqui`	`I don't know much about forms`
`08:23.49`	`luqui`	`so I just go with what seems right`
`08:24.52`	`ChipX86`	`geeze. http://www.deviantart.com/view/15769136/`
`08:24.56`	`ChipX86`	`that was done in Illustrator`
`08:25.04`	`purple_cow`	`it's worth learning about sonata allegro ;)`
`08:25.14`	`purple_cow`	`i really like the little interlude`
`08:25.32`	`luqui`	`haha, I know sonata allegro`
`08:25.49`	`luqui`	`I was a beethoven nut for years... you'd think I'd pick that up`
`08:25.55`	`luqui`	`what interlude?`
`08:26.01`	`luqui`	`after the climax?`
`08:26.05`	`purple_cow`	`the little slower section right near the end`
`08:26.14`	`luqui`	`yeah, i just wrote that tonight`
`08:26.18`	`luqui`	`thanks`
`08:28.33`	`luqui`	`:-)`
`08:29.30`	`scanline`	`cwisty: jason was pretty easy to keep awake :)`
`08:29.40`	`cwisty`	`wow you got home quick`
`08:29.49`	`scanline`	`yep. hardly anyone else on the roads`
`08:29.58`	`cwisty`	`wow`
`08:30.01`	`cwisty`	`you were flyin!`
`08:30.06`	`scanline`	`indeedy`
`08:30.24`	`luqui`	`purple_cow: how so?`
`08:31.00`	`ChipX86`	`scanline is a reckless driver`
`08:31.08`	`ChipX86`	`hence all the arrests`
`08:31.09`	`scanline`	`I wasn't driving`
`08:31.20`	`ChipX86`	`reckless runner?`
`08:31.47`	`purple_cow`	`luqui: well, just the combination of velocity/volume is not how a string instrument attacks`
`08:31.59`	`luqui`	`ahh yeah.`
`08:32.00`	`scanline`	`ChipX86: reckless passenger`
`08:32.04`	`ChipX86`	`scanline: ah.`
`08:32.19`	`luqui`	`I've been looking for a good "ensemble" patch for a while now`
`08:33.17`	`luqui`	`maybe I'll record my violin 20 times when I stop sucking at violin`
`08:33.32`	`ChipX86`	`so, before release, should I continue using GList-style list structures, or something that keeps pointers to the head and tail?`
`08:33.53`	`purple_cow`	`i doubt you'll be able to get a good set of orchestra patches without paying for it`
`08:34.21`	`luqui`	`I payed for some woodwinds & brass. they all sucked. I don't think I have a single instrument from that set anymore`
`08:34.27`	`purple_cow`	`yikes, trumpet solo?`
`08:34.56`	`luqui`	`after the fast piano cadenza?`
`08:35.01`	`purple_cow`	`yeah`
`08:35.21`	`luqui`	`yeah. that was a recovery from a writers block. I think it works pretty well`
`08:35.34`	`purple_cow`	`it's creepy`
`08:35.42`	`luqui`	`oh...kay`
`08:35.55`	`purple_cow`	`in that "here's an instrument nobody lets play solos" way`
`08:36.20`	`luqui`	`my trumpet patch only sounds good solo, so I figured I'd give it a shot :-p`
`08:36.27`	`purple_cow`	`heh`
`08:38.52`	`ChipX86`	`Nara puts my art to shame ;)`
`08:39.13`	`ChipX86`	`http://www.deviantart.com/view/15847313/`
`08:39.18`	`ChipX86`	`:)`
`08:39.25`	`Nara`	`You evil being`
`08:39.29`	`ChipX86`	`I are`
`08:40.04`	`scanline`	`Nara: cool`
`08:40.16`	`Nara`	`Thanks`
`08:40.36`	`rioter`	`funky`
`08:40.39`	`ChipX86`	`yeah`
`08:40.46`	`ChipX86`	`you should see her sketch books`
`08:41.01`	`rioter`	`wish i could draw fullstop, my handwriting isnt even legiable`
`08:41.17`	`ChipX86`	`:) mine neither`
`08:41.20`	`purple_cow`	`handwriting has nothing to do with drawing ;)`
`08:41.32`	`Nara`	`My handwriting is horrible`
`08:41.51`	`rioter`	`heh, i just cant operate a pen`
`08:41.58`	`purple_cow`	`luqui: what's the weird thing at the beginning? just a tempo click?`
`08:42.30`	`ChipX86`	`yay, a commit message is going to sing praises to me`
`08:44.13`	`luqui`	`no, it's a weird thing`
`08:44.31`	`luqui`	`pizz violas and a basoon`
`08:44.51`	`luqui`	`you hear it again at the beginning of the second section`
`08:44.59`	`ChipX86`	`~unproductivity`
`08:45.00`	`jbot`	`yay!`
`08:45.08`	`purple_cow`	`yeah, just noticed that`
`08:45.13`	`ChipX86`	`mwahaha`
`08:45.22`	`purple_cow`	`probably would sound less weird with a real bassoon patch ;)`
`08:45.30`	`luqui`	`no kidding`
`08:45.32`	`purple_cow`	`it's really hard to get a feel for music with midi :P`
`08:45.42`	`ChipX86`	`<CIA-1> Guifications: grim * r158 /trunk/gflib/gflib/ (gf_item.c gf_item_image.c): I bow before the great wisdom of the almighty Chipx86 who figured this out in minutes, while I have been working on it for hours!`
`08:45.51`	`luqui`	`hey, i figgre if it sounds good on midi, just think what it'll be like for real`
`08:46.12`	`luqui`	`(a couple years down the line when I get something recorded, that is)`
`08:47.47`	`purple_cow`	`well, yeah`
`08:47.59`	`purple_cow`	`but it's hard to make anything sound good on midi without a lot of hand tweaking ;)`
`08:49.04`	`luqui`	`my piccolo is out of balance on my soundfont, so when everything else is playing ff, it's playing mp`
`08:49.10`	`luqui`	`and I'm to lazy to fix`
`08:49.11`	`luqui`	`it`
`08:49.17`	`purple_cow`	`yey`
`08:49.19`	`purple_cow`	`err, heh`
`08:50.56`	`luqui`	`well, thanks for listening purple_cow...`
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`08:55.25`	`hardwire`	`this wireless router is the only one out of the bunch that likes to freak the fuck out on occasion`
`08:55.44`	`hardwire`	`I really don't want to be climbing up there again just to pull it down and replace the mainboard`
`08:55.45`	`file`	`hey hey hey`
`08:55.54`	`file`	`we hacked the hotel's wifi`
`08:56.08`	`hardwire`	`hehe`
`08:56.10`	`hardwire`	`good job`
`08:56.15`	`hardwire`	`I use nstx for that`
`08:56.19`	`file`	`SQL fun!`
`08:56.30`	`hardwire`	`eh?`
`08:56.43`	`ChipX86`	`http://www.cafepress.com/destroymornings.18872817`
`08:56.44`	`hardwire`	`no root password on the auth server?`
`08:56.48`	`ChipX86`	`http://www.cafepress.com/destroymornings.18872818`
`08:57.10`	`file`	`flying was fun`
`08:58.25`	`hardwire`	`file: fly often?`
`08:58.58`	`file`	`nope`
`08:58.59`	`file`	`first time flying`
`08:59.06`	`file`	`went through Toronto, Chicago, finally got to San Jose`
`08:59.32`	`hardwire`	`groovy`
`08:59.36`	`hardwire`	`happy oyu liked it`
`08:59.47`	`hardwire`	`I have to go from anchorage to chicago to amsterdam soon`
`08:59.52`	`file`	`it was good`
`08:59.55`	`hardwire`	`then of course.. back.`
`09:10.03`	`purple_cow`	`file: that's a lot of layovers`
`09:15.45`	`file`	`yeah`
`09:23.30`	`hardwire`	`ugh`
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`09:33.26`	`ChipX86`	`g'night everyone`
`09:57.21`	`purple_cow`	`scanline: care turning down the bass a bit? =/`
`09:58.11`	`scanline`	`purple_cow: sorry`
`10:36.15`	`cwisty`	`goodnight anyone who's still awake!`
`10:59.25`	`Nara`	`how do I change my name like that?`
`11:00.06`	`Nara`	`oh well.`
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`14:39.41`	`lurgy`	`hmm, looks like a gnome 2.10 release`
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`16:04.34`	`pagefault`	`argh`
`16:04.40`	`pagefault`	`it looks like the entire OSDN network is down`
`16:07.22`	`pagefault`	`hrm`
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`16:22.00`	`pagefault_`	`hmm`
`16:26.29`	`darth_mall`	`@deepthought`
`16:26.29`	`kbot`	`darth_mall: I can picture in my mind a world without war, and a world without hate. And I can picture us attacking that world, because they'd never expect it.`
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`17:24.01`	`purple_cow`	`damn my human horn for being all full`
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`17:33.10`	`purple_cow`	`time for school`
`17:50.42`	`ChipX86`	`mwahaha`
`17:50.44`	`ChipX86`	`Sean sent out an e-mail`
`17:50.52`	`ChipX86`	`he suggests that we use D-BUS for gaim-remote`
`17:58.25`	`kergoth`	`ChipX86: hah`
`17:59.40`	`ChipX86`	`I e-mailed back saying how I have a lot of experience with it, having used it for a variety of uses like this, and how I've even sent in patches, so I'd be glad to help`
`18:00.08`	`ChipX86`	`I love how I couldn't convince him, a GnomeMeeting developer couldn't convince him, and somebody else who was doing cool stuff with it couldn't convince him`
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`18:19.42`	`CIA-3`	`galago: 03chipx86 * r1518 10libgalago/ (ChangeLog libgalago.spec.in): Add the skeleton.1 file to the devel RPM.`
`18:20.19`	`CIA-3`	`galago: 03chipx86 * r1519 10libgalago-gtk/ (ChangeLog libgalago-gtk.spec.in): Add the skeleton.1 file to the devel RPM.`
`18:44.40`	`CIA-3`	`openembedded: 03kergoth 07 * r1.2998 10openembedded/BitKeeper/deleted/ (8 files): Kill the old tslib patches that have gone upstream.`
`18:45.19`	`Cae`	`so a ChipX86 popped into the void and was Gone, and out from the void popped a TD, who was no longer Gone.`
`18:45.30`	`kergoth`	`heh`
`18:45.52`	`kergoth`	`@deepthought`
`18:45.52`	`kbot`	`kergoth: One afternoon, when I was about ten, I decided to walk over to the "wrong side of the tracks." At first I was a little scared. But then I noticed that the yards were nice, and so were the houses. In fact, most of the houses were better than those on our side of the tracks. A lot better.`
`18:46.15`	`TD`	`pop`
`18:55.00`	`kergoth`	`damnit ups, deliver my package already`
`18:55.13`	`CIA-3`	`opencombat: 03jeffm2501 * 10quadDraw/ (main.cpp main.h):`
`18:55.13`	`CIA-3`	`opencombat: make it acualy quit`
`18:55.13`	`CIA-3`	`opencombat: make it set the view.`
`18:56.56`	`Cae`	`kergoth: whatcha gettin?`
`18:58.54`	`Cae`	`ergh..the ibm site for submitting resumes is slooooow..`
`18:59.28`	`Cae`	`oh, got the internship again`
`19:03.19`	`kergoth`	`Cae: shuttle xpc. athlon 64.`
`19:03.24`	`Cae`	`fun`
`19:03.28`	`kergoth`	`been using this old decrepit desktop for long enough`
`19:03.35`	`Cae`	`hehe`
`19:04.03`	`Cae`	`hum. my package is currently in Mesquite Texas. or it was.`
`19:04.07`	`Cae`	`11:30pm yesterday`
`19:04.20`	`Cae`	`why does EVERYTHING go through Mesquite?`
`19:04.21`	`kergoth`	`what package? did you order your new laptop, or..?`
`19:04.25`	`Cae`	`yeah`
`19:04.28`	`kergoth`	`cool, whatd ya get?`
`19:05.20`	`Cae`	`1.8ghz pentium m, 256 ram (ordering more; cheaper that was), 14.1" xga 64mb, 60gb hard drive, cdrw/dvd-rom, etc, etc`
`19:05.53`	`kergoth`	`cool, sounds nice. i presume you got a pretty good deal on it`
`19:06.49`	`kergoth`	`placed an order with cold steel the other day. was debating getting a sword, but went with a couple knives instead`
`19:07.03`	`kergoth`	`Cae: so cold steel is selling a _$700_ JKD dvd set.`
`19:07.08`	`kergoth`	`$700!`
`19:07.32`	`Cae`	`LOL`
`19:07.55`	`kergoth`	`the guy studied with dan inosanto though, so it seems legit, and has video of dan teaching things. but $700, jesus`
`19:08.05`	`kergoth`	`the guys site has it for $500 .. on sale`
`19:08.34`	`Cae`	`heh`
`19:08.49`	`Cae`	`that is way more than I would be open to spending..`
`19:09.53`	`Cae`	`ahh. ibm appears to be messing with that part of their site`
`19:11.15`	`Cae`	`heh. xp home, to be replaced by xp pro here. no anti-virus subscription; I can get an eternal subscription to mcafee for free from here. and I don't use antivirus anyway; just disgusting firewalls.`
`19:11.50`	`kergoth`	`heh`
`19:11.55`	`Cae`	`if it can't talk to me, it can't give me a virus`
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`19:16.48`	`darth_mall`	`heh... had to wake scanline up cuz vmware just called`
`19:16.51`	`darth_mall`	`poor scanline =\`
`19:16.57`	`kergoth`	`heh`
`19:17.12`	`kergoth`	`he go to bed late?`
`19:19.16`	`scanline`	`I don't remember my alarm clock at all`
`19:20.12`	`scanline`	`but it's actually a good thing I was home I guess... got another interview scheduled`
`19:20.30`	`scanline`	`so now I get to hurry off to physics lab!`
`19:20.51`	`kergoth`	`another interview. good sign. good luck`
`19:21.55`	`Cae`	`indeedy`
`19:22.29`	`kergoth`	`guess i should get off my lazy ass and get moving on the job front`
`19:22.57`	`Cae`	`I'm going to wait until the ibm site is not being messed with..the questions and answers being out of order is kind of creepy`
`19:22.57`	`CIA-3`	`opencombat: 03jeffm2501 * 10quadDraw/ (main.cpp main.h sdlWindow.cpp sdlWindow.h):`
`19:22.57`	`CIA-3`	`opencombat: keep the surface with the window class`
`19:22.57`	`CIA-3`	`opencombat: init the surface,`
`19:24.05`	`Cae`	`hmmm`
`19:24.42`	`kergoth`	`http://kergoth.com/files/kergoth/resume.pdf .. current incarnation .. added bits about project management and tslib. comments? criticisms?`
`19:27.19`	`Cae`	`eh. I suck at resumes. I just apparently look good on paper and sound good in person. I'm not sure how or why.`
`19:27.37`	`Cae`	`it looks fine to me`
`19:27.57`	`kergoth`	`hehe`
`19:28.47`	`Cae`	`maybe they think I have potential`
`19:29.08`	`darth_mall`	`wow`
`19:29.13`	`Cae`	`darth_mall: hm?`
`19:29.21`	`darth_mall`	`so apparently the leading cause of death for pregnant women in this country is murder`
`19:29.32`	`darth_mall`	`that's... odd`
`19:29.39`	`darth_mall`	`and a bit unsettling, kind of`
`19:32.19`	`Cae`	`there's been a lot of creepy baby-stealing murders`
`19:32.44`	`Cae`	`you know, not pregnant crazy woman finds heavily pregnant woman, kills her, and steals the fetus`
`19:32.53`	`Cae`	`which usually then dies as well`
`19:32.57`	`kergoth`	`eep`
`19:33.11`	`Cae`	`it's been getting more common`
`19:33.50`	`kergoth`	`thats pretty messed up right there`
`19:33.59`	`Cae`	`yeah`
`19:34.04`	`Cae`	`over the past year or two`
`19:34.34`	`Cae`	`hrmmm`
`19:34.37`	`Cae`	`I want to order my ram`
`19:34.42`	`Cae`	`but I also want to get Trip some ram`
`19:34.55`	`Cae`	`but I don't remember what inspiron his laptop is`
`19:37.19`	`darth_mall`	`ewww`
`19:37.53`	`Cae`	`it's an older one before they got creepy`
`19:40.13`	`Cae`	`still a good machine. just needs more ram.`
`19:40.17`	`darth_mall`	`RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAM!`
`19:41.11`	`kergoth`	`@familyguy`
`19:41.11`	`kbot`	`kergoth: <Brian> Hey, Peter, it's seven o'clock and you've still got your pants on. What's the occassion?`
`19:41.17`	`darth_mall`	`hehe`
`19:43.20`	`Cae`	`let's see..it's pc133, 256 in it..`
`19:43.46`	`Cae`	`inspiron 8100, but heavily modified..i.e. it has 1600x1200 res, and random other stuff it shouldn't have had`
`19:43.55`	`Cae`	`except Justin's a nut`
`19:47.51`	`Cae`	`hm. wonder what fry's prices are.`
`19:52.58`	`Cae`	`isn't pc133 what the g3 ibooks use?`
`19:55.42`	`Cae`	`pc-2100 sodimm 512mb. corsair - $79 from newegg. kingston - $59 from outpost.com`
`19:56.20`	`Cae`	`hm.`
`19:57.36`	`Cae`	`does anyone remember the warranty difference between newegg and fry's?`
`19:57.40`	`darth_mall`	`anyone have any idea what gentoo package libegroupwise is in?`
`19:58.24`	`Cae`	`I would guess something called groupwise?`
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`19:59.38`	`Cae`	`evolution?`
`20:00.36`	`Cae`	`evolution data server, maybe`
`20:03.36`	`Cae`	`ugh. I just can't bring myself to care that I have an exam tomorrow and another on thursday. this is bad..`
`20:05.00`	`Cae`	`I also don't understand the sideways hourglass symbol in relational tuple/domain calculus or algebra or whatever`
`20:05.44`	`darth_mall`	`could be eds, I suppose`
`20:05.50`	`darth_mall`	`it is for evo`
`20:06.15`	`purple_cow`	`anyone on campus?`
`20:06.17`	`purple_cow`	`and looking for lunch?`
`20:06.19`	`darth_mall`	`not I`
`20:07.47`	`Cae`	`it's supposed to be some sort of join, but I'm confused about exactly what properties it has. you use it to somehow cross-reference variables of the same name in two different schemas..`
`20:07.55`	`Cae`	`I am..but not the campus you mean`
`20:08.22`	`purple_cow`	`pff`
`20:08.37`	`Cae`	`it appears to be some sort of creepy select-join`
`20:09.19`	`Cae`	`rather, it is exactly that.`
`20:09.30`	`Cae`	`it's the equivalent of select(A x B)`
`20:10.20`	`Cae`	`eh.`
`20:10.53`	`darth_mall`	`yay! I think I'm done with my OS hw`
`20:11.23`	`purple_cow`	`homework is for losers`
`20:12.04`	`purple_cow`	`well, i suppose i'll head off to silver mine alone then :(`
`20:12.52`	`purple_cow`	`rofl`
`20:12.53`	`darth_mall`	`poor purple_cow`
`20:12.54`	`purple_cow`	`<CIA-1> e: mej * eterm/libast/ (4 files in 2 dirs):`
`20:12.55`	`purple_cow`	`<CIA-1> e: Mon Mar 7 15:06:39 2005 Michael Jennings (mej)`
`20:12.55`	`purple_cow`	`<CIA-1> e: Miscellaneous autoFUCKMEUPTHEASSWITHAPINETREE fixes.`
`20:13.09`	`Cae`	`purple_cow: if you give me a plane ticket and a week or so, I'll come eat lunch with you :)`
`20:13.11`	`kergoth`	`hehe`
`20:13.13`	`darth_mall`	`heh`
`20:14.30`	`darth_mall`	`hrm... my OS programming assignment is due next week`
`20:14.31`	`Cae`	`noooooo`
`20:14.34`	`darth_mall`	`I should probably get on that this week`
`20:14.37`	`Cae`	`what about my plane ticket??`
`20:14.45`	`darth_mall`	`Cae: check your pocket`
`20:14.54`	`Cae`	`it's not there..`
`20:16.05`	`darth_mall`	`so far so good`
`20:16.59`	`kergoth`	`damnit ups`
`20:17.33`	`ChipX86`	`man this is a nice office`
`20:17.39`	`Cae`	`and ChipX86 takes a flying splat out of the void!`
`20:17.42`	`ChipX86`	`though no secretary in the next office like we planned`
`20:18.09`	`ChipX86`	`our highest-up manager, Paul, is now living right next door, between my office and the hallway`
`20:18.14`	`Cae`	`ChipX86: send me RAM!`
`20:18.55`	`Cae`	`I want a stick of pc-2100, 512mb sodimm, and a stick of pc-133, 256mb sodimm.`
`20:18.57`	`ChipX86`	`:)`
`20:20.15`	`Cae`	`what mail thingies does jbot keep track of?`
`20:21.37`	`Cae`	`jbot: botsnack?`
`20:21.37`	`jbot`	`:), Cae`
`20:21.57`	`kergoth`	`mail thingies?`
`20:22.02`	`Cae`	`ups, usps?`
`20:22.05`	`Cae`	`fedex?`
`20:22.14`	`Cae`	`carriers`
`20:22.17`	`kergoth`	`ahh, none`
`20:22.21`	`kergoth`	`file had a seperate bot for that`
`20:22.24`	`Cae`	`tracking numbers`
`20:22.30`	`kergoth`	`but i dont thinkblootbot ever got support for it`
`20:22.31`	`Cae`	`file[atVON]: I demand the tracking bot!`
`20:22.47`	`kergoth`	`i'm thinking about writing a plugin for supybot for tracking`
`20:23.01`	`Cae`	`I also demand that it be contained within a floating holographic projection that I can talk to when bored`
`20:23.29`	`Cae`	`I have heard them referred to as "voices" or "hallucinations" before.`
`20:23.29`	`kergoth`	`you should make the floating holographic projection look like Al from quantum leap, just because`
`20:23.46`	`Cae`	`ziggy!`
`20:25.35`	`Cae`	`I hate relational tuple calculus and relational domain calculus`
`20:25.47`	`Cae`	`and relational algebra slightly less`
`20:27.06`	`darth_mall`	`hmm... this music player daemon is intriguing`
`20:27.37`	`TD`	`i hate all maths unconditionally`
`20:28.11`	`Cae`	`this is database math`
`20:28.50`	`Cae`	`I don't understand why I should be forced to use greek symbols when SELECT suffices`
`20:29.07`	`kergoth`	`heh`
`20:29.29`	`TD`	`i was doing that before`
`20:29.31`	`TD`	`and yeah, it's weird`
`20:29.40`	`TD`	`but only marginally`
`20:29.53`	`Cae`	`indeed`
`20:32.10`	`Cae`	`I dislike formulaic graphs`
`20:32.21`	`Cae`	`underlining keys and shit`
`20:33.22`	`Cae`	`ER modeling`
`20:34.24`	`darth_mall`	`welp... better head out to this meeting`
`20:35.30`	`scanline`	`<CIA-1> [13:08] e: mej * eterm/libast/ (4 files in 2 dirs):`
`20:35.31`	`scanline`	`<CIA-1> [13:08] e: Mon Mar 7 15:06:39 2005 Michael Jennings (mej)`
`20:35.33`	`scanline`	`<CIA-1> [13:08] e: Miscellaneous autoFUCKMEUPTHEASSWITHAPINETREE fixes.`
`20:35.36`	`scanline`	`=D`
`20:36.18`	`scanline`	`hmm`
`20:36.23`	`scanline`	`the screen on my rio is getting a little scuffed up`
`20:36.30`	`scanline`	`maybe those screen protectors are worthwhile after all`
`20:37.40`	`ChipX86`	`this office rocks, aside from the wasp`
`20:38.09`	`ChipX86`	`Paul just told me it used to be the CEO's office`
`20:38.29`	`kergoth`	`nice`
`20:38.57`	`ChipX86`	`and now he has my laptop charger`
`20:39.25`	`Cae`	`back later`
`20:47.46`	`TD`	`i think it's funny that a guy called [GNU] is asking about mac support`
`20:47.51`	`ChipX86`	`:)`
`20:47.51`	`TD`	`kind of missing the point ...`
`20:47.55`	`scanline`	`mornin cwisty`
`20:48.00`	`cwisty`	`afternoon!`
`20:48.55`	`cwisty`	`you make it to physics?`
`20:49.42`	`scanline`	`not quite :)`
`20:49.49`	`scanline`	`woke up at about 12:15 to a call from vmware`
`20:50.02`	`cwisty`	`hehe`
`20:50.02`	`scanline`	`scheduled another interview, then hurried off to lab`
`20:50.07`	`TD`	`ChipX86: http://winehq.com/images/bannerads/cw-ad03.gif`
`20:50.08`	`TD`	`wtf?`
`20:50.20`	`TD`	`ChipX86: what does that make you think of?`
`20:50.20`	`scanline`	`I should have set up some music on a timer.. that seems to be infinitely more reliable than my alarm clock`
`20:50.28`	`ChipX86`	`an inconfigured proxy`
`20:50.32`	`ChipX86`	`unconfigured`
`20:50.47`	`ChipX86`	`it makes me think that Linux is stealing things`
`20:50.51`	`TD`	`hahaha`
`20:51.00`	`TD`	`apparently "It's a pun that only Minnesotans will understand."`
`20:51.07`	`scanline`	`hmm`
`20:51.18`	`cwisty`	`I had this great alarm clock program on my computer`
`20:51.20`	`cwisty`	`was great`
`20:51.26`	`cwisty`	`you could set it for different times each day`
`20:51.37`	`cwisty`	`and it would play whatever song/playlist you gave it`
`20:51.40`	`TD`	`ChipX86: lol`
`20:51.50`	`TD`	`"port-age, n. The carrying of boats and supplies overland between two waterways or around an obstacle to navigation."`
`20:52.10`	`scanline`	`cwisty: nod. I think there's an xmms plugin for that. I usually end up with something like "sleep 4h; mpg123 some_really_loud_music.mp3"`
`20:52.27`	`cwisty`	`well . . .`
`20:52.29`	`scanline`	`I wake up pretty well to pink floyd and juno reactor`
`20:52.31`	`scanline`	`:)`
`20:52.42`	`cwisty`	`I feel bad for keeping you up now`
`20:52.49`	`scanline`	`nah`
`20:52.57`	`TD`	`juno reactor is cool`
`20:53.10`	`cwisty`	`scanline; u @ skool?`
`20:53.18`	`scanline`	`at spacegrant, doing nothing useful!`
`20:53.22`	`cwisty`	`hot`
`20:53.24`	`scanline`	`waiting for the software meeting to start`
`20:53.30`	`cwisty`	`2?`
`20:53.33`	`scanline`	`yep`
`20:53.36`	`cwisty`	`fun`
`20:53.36`	`cwisty`	`OK`
`20:53.54`	`scanline`	`how's the paper?`
`20:54.06`	`cwisty`	`still printing . . .`
`20:54.10`	`scanline`	`hehe`
`20:54.10`	`cwisty`	`hehe`
`20:54.11`	`scanline`	`cool`
`20:54.21`	`cwisty`	`20 damn pages and my printer is being retarded`
`20:54.32`	`scanline`	`I feel kinda bad for not really having done anything for work in the last few weeks`
`20:54.39`	`cwisty`	`eh`
`20:54.46`	`cwisty`	`you can make up for it this week`
`20:54.49`	`scanline`	`haha`
`20:54.50`	`scanline`	`right`
`20:54.57`	`cwisty`	`I didn't manage to accomplish a whole lot last week either`
`20:55.17`	`cwisty`	`you kick rex?`
`20:55.17`	`ChipX86`	`bah, forgot my camera USB cable`
`20:55.21`	`ChipX86`	`oh well`
`20:55.28`	`scanline`	`cwisty: ooh, that's what I was supposed to be doing...`
`20:55.32`	`cwisty`	`hehe`
`20:55.35`	`cwisty`	`well go do it!`
`20:55.39`	`scanline`	`k`
`20:55.45`	`scanline`	`micah@sigma ~ $ ssh rex.colorado.edu`
`20:55.45`	`scanline`	`ssh_exchange_identification: Connection closed by remote host`
`20:56.52`	`scanline`	`I guess the software team hasn't been doing much in the last couple days, or slimspace\|away would probably have done this sooner`
`20:57.02`	`cwisty`	`good point`
`20:58.00`	`scanline`	`seems to be booted just fine`
`20:58.07`	`cwisty`	`yay`
`20:58.17`	`scanline`	`now I get to figure out what went horribly wrong with mono and/or xsp to cause it to crash so badly`
`20:58.39`	`cwisty`	`or broke it`
`20:58.40`	`cwisty`	`take your pick`
`20:58.41`	`scanline`	`nah, it was probably related to the upgrade I did`
`20:58.53`	`scanline`	`I might try the latest CVS code`
`20:58.54`	`scanline`	`;)`
`21:03.30`	`darth_mall`	`you and your CVS`
`21:03.35`	`darth_mall`	`@deepthought`
`21:03.35`	`kbot`	`darth_mall: Instead of a welcome mat, what about just a plain mat and a little loudspeaker that says "welcome" over and over again?`
`21:03.42`	`darth_mall`	`lol`
`21:03.58`	`kergoth`	`hehe`
`21:05.23`	`scanline`	`hah`
`21:05.23`	`darth_mall`	`aha!`
`21:05.49`	`TD`	`lol`
`21:05.49`	`TD`	`http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=141641&cid=11866659`
`21:06.26`	`scanline`	`hahaha`
`21:06.30`	`ChipX86`	`all this sunlight is making me sleepy`
`21:06.50`	`ChipX86`	`hhaha`
`21:07.13`	`slimspace`	`b;eh`
`21:07.19`	`slimspace`	`that is to say, bleh`
`21:07.57`	`ChipX86`	`fortunately, with all the trees outside my windows, there's not a real glare issue`
`21:09.25`	`purple_cow`	`blehhhh`
`21:09.29`	`purple_cow`	`the CAML lab is about 90 degrees =/`
`21:14.25`	`darth_mall`	`scanline is a camel`
`21:14.31`	`scanline`	`yep`
`21:14.40`	`darth_mall`	`either that, or slimspace is. I foget which`
`21:16.04`	`darth_mall`	`gooooooooooooooooooooooooooooey`
`21:16.43`	`scanline`	`yep`
`21:16.50`	`darth_mall`	`gooey like hot cheese`
`21:16.55`	`scanline`	`indeed!`
`21:17.01`	`scanline`	`lookit all this stuff getting done...`
`21:17.04`	`darth_mall`	`hehe`
`21:17.08`	`darth_mall`	`gooey!`
`21:17.11`	`darth_mall`	`heh`
`21:17.31`	`scanline`	`yay`
`21:17.42`	`scanline`	`zarquon.twobit.net`
`21:17.45`	`ChipX86`	`always with their spaciness, and those grants. Bah I say.`
`21:17.45`	`darth_mall`	`probably doesn't help that your senior project is related to space grant...`
`21:17.47`	`scanline`	`cool name for a gentoo mirror`
`21:18.09`	`scanline`	`darth_mall: it isn't really...`
`21:18.26`	`scanline`	`darth_mall: I mean, spacegrant is our sponsor now, but the project and spacegrant have different problems`
`21:18.33`	`darth_mall`	`oh, heh`
`21:18.56`	`scanline`	`I'm tired of spacegrant because of all the usual reasons`
`21:19.11`	`scanline`	`and the senior project I'm really only tired of because we worked on it so disgustingly much last week`
`21:19.19`	`darth_mall`	`yeah, I noticed`
`21:20.06`	`darth_mall`	`hmm... "voice listening"`
`21:20.16`	`darth_mall`	`sometimes the strangest things come out of my mouth`
`21:21.16`	`ChipX86`	`wtf`
`21:21.28`	`ChipX86`	`that is stupid.`
`21:21.42`	`ChipX86`	`"Let's inconvenience ourselves to make a point to people who never see the site."`
`21:22.40`	`purple_cow`	`yep`
`21:24.06`	`darth_mall`	`yay point!`
`21:25.52`	`ChipX86`	`it's weird having our top-level manager right next to me`
`21:26.24`	`scanline`	`hmm`
`21:26.30`	`scanline`	`so it looks like I have a paper to write this week :P`
`21:28.52`	`*** part/#tacobeam cwisty (~default@c-24-8-37-83.client.comcast.net)`
`21:34.08`	`purple_cow`	`hurray protools`
`21:38.18`	`darth_mall`	`hurray`
`21:40.11`	`CIA-3`	`spacegrant: 03evan * r1023 10doc-misc/adcs/ADCS_module.svg: Revise the diagram`
`21:48.24`	`ChipX86`	`uh oh, they put ideas in Paul's head.`
`21:48.45`	`ChipX86`	`they said Regis and I were going to try to get a masseuse or secretaries in that office that he's now in`
`21:49.12`	`ChipX86`	`he said he would gladly be out secretary and give massages, and then is like, "Hmm... massages.. maybe I would like a massage. And you're right next to me."`
`21:49.50`	`CIA-3`	`spacegrant: 03evan * r1024 10doc-misc/adcs/ADCS_module.svg:`
`21:49.50`	`CIA-3`	`spacegrant: Might as well add something about the Coordinate object that`
`21:49.51`	`CIA-3`	`spacegrant: we came up with last week.`
`21:49.58`	`darth_mall`	`lookit me kind of getting work done`
`21:49.59`	`TD`	`ChipX86: lol`
`21:50.48`	`ChipX86`	`there are people moving trees on the balcony outside my front window`
`21:51.13`	`scanline`	`darth_mall: http://navi.cx/svn/misc/trunk/rio-karma/hardware/ethernet-fix-prototype.jpeg`
`21:51.35`	`ChipX86`	`ooh it looks like a worm`
`21:51.51`	`darth_mall`	`hehe... that's funny`
`21:57.04`	`purple_cow`	`iced lattes make the world go round`
`21:59.33`	`purple_cow`	`sooooooo`
`21:59.41`	`purple_cow`	`darth_mall, scanline, slimspace: what are we doing for the project? :)`
`22:01.16`	`scanline`	`purple_cow: a magnetic teddy bear`
`22:01.18`	`darth_mall`	`fyre 2.0?`
`22:01.20`	`darth_mall`	`;)`
`22:01.34`	`purple_cow`	`darth_mall: i think fyre 2.0 is a little optimistic ;)`
`22:02.01`	`purple_cow`	`it might be possible to pull off a pipeline editor + compiler, if we plan things right`
`22:02.08`	`darth_mall`	`purple_cow: but it's fun to say`
`22:02.11`	`purple_cow`	`yes, yes it is`
`22:02.48`	`darth_mall`	`yes!`
`22:03.01`	`darth_mall`	`do we have any idea what the project is even supposed to be?`
`22:03.44`	`purple_cow`	`there's a whole big page of instructions`
`22:03.51`	`darth_mall`	`oh, ok`
`22:04.25`	`*** join/#tacobeam numist (~numist@numist.sustaining.supporter.pdpc)`
`22:05.22`	`ChipX86`	`it's the numist!`
`22:05.56`	`slimspace`	`yeah, basically the page says come up with a software solution and implement it.`
`22:06.00`	`numist`	`yeah.. forgot the channel for a long time, then remembered it was in my logs`
`22:06.17`	`numist`	`you know how long it takes to look through cat log\|grep chipx86 #?`
`22:06.20`	`darth_mall`	`slimspace: we should do a thing... and call it picogui!`
`22:06.24`	`ChipX86`	`numist: probably a while`
`22:06.26`	`slimspace`	`darth_mall: lol`
`22:06.34`	`ChipX86`	`same with google search results`
`22:06.36`	`numist`	`actually no, but it took me a while to think of it`
`22:06.37`	`purple_cow`	`darth_mall: scanline would garrot us`
`22:06.40`	`darth_mall`	`ok...`
`22:06.52`	`darth_mall`	`we'll do a different thing... we'll call it vmware`
`22:07.08`	`slimspace`	`isn't ChipX86 already doing that?`
`22:07.11`	`darth_mall`	`dammit!`
`22:07.17`	`ChipX86`	`slimspace: we can always change the name`
`22:07.25`	`darth_mall`	`let's do a Conway's Life simulation =D`
`22:07.33`	`ChipX86`	`I have an ALife thing I thought up last night`
`22:07.35`	`ChipX86`	`but it's MINE`
`22:07.36`	`slimspace`	`ChipX86: we could call it mVware`
`22:07.46`	`ChipX86`	`or MwVare`
`22:07.50`	`darth_mall`	`ooh`
`22:07.50`	`slimspace`	`hehe`
`22:07.55`	`darth_mall`	`or... iVmware`
`22:08.06`	`ChipX86`	`iVmware.Net Platinum`
`22:08.15`	`darth_mall`	`++ home edition`
`22:08.24`	`numist`	`ugh home edition`
`22:08.24`	`darth_mall`	`sharp`
`22:08.45`	`darth_mall`	`iVmware.Net# home edition pro`
`22:08.51`	`purple_cow`	`guh, more stuff due next week`
`22:09.02`	`darth_mall`	`bleh`
`22:09.04`	`ChipX86`	`iVmware.Net# Home Edition Pro Accelerated+`
`22:09.06`	`darth_mall`	`purple_cow: in OOP?`
`22:09.20`	`slimspace`	`yeah, homework 2`
`22:09.25`	`slimspace`	`er, 3`
`22:09.26`	`darth_mall`	`fuck`
`22:09.48`	`slimspace`	`we get to continue development on our little paper submission problem`
`22:09.50`	`purple_cow`	`darth_mall: yeah, but that wasn't what triggered the exclaimation`
`22:09.52`	`darth_mall`	`too much to do`
`22:11.02`	`darth_mall`	`for like a month or tow`
`22:11.07`	`darth_mall`	`s/tow/two/`
`22:11.18`	`darth_mall`	`just be totally unaware of anything, then wake up totally rested...`
`22:11.20`	`darth_mall`	`and zombified`
`22:11.32`	`slimspace`	`mmm...vacation completely abscent of all technology`
`22:11.54`	`darth_mall`	`^^`
`22:12.29`	`slimspace`	`technology makes me aware of deadlines`
`22:13.37`	`darth_mall`	`rofl`
`22:18.51`	`darth_mall`	`@deepthough`
`22:18.52`	`kbot`	`darth_mall: Error: "deepthough" is not a valid command.`
`22:18.52`	`darth_mall`	`@deepthought`
`22:18.54`	`kbot`	`darth_mall: It takes a big man to cry, but it takes a bigger man to laugh at that man.`
`22:19.23`	`darth_mall`	`@futurama`
`22:19.23`	`kbot`	`darth_mall: <Bender> Bite my shiny, metal ass!`
`22:19.29`	`darth_mall`	`booooooooring`
`22:19.30`	`darth_mall`	`@futurama`
`22:19.31`	`kbot`	`darth_mall: <Bender> Float like a floatbox, sting like an automatic stingin' machine.`
`22:19.35`	`darth_mall`	`heh`
`22:19.56`	`ChipX86`	`yay for missing 'virtual' when subclassing, and causing a massive hunt for the problem`
`22:20.02`	`darth_mall`	`yay!`
`22:20.07`	`darth_mall`	`~cpr ChipX86`
`22:20.11`	`jbot`	`ChipX86: <smoochu> :-*`
`22:20.20`	`purple_cow`	`s/floatbox/floatbot/`
`22:20.30`	`darth_mall`	`jbot: kbot kicks your ass, speedwise`
`22:21.27`	`hardwire`	`ho`
`22:21.29`	`purple_cow`	`bahhhhhh`
`22:21.29`	`hardwire`	`la`
`22:21.31`	`purple_cow`	`damn my human horn!`
`22:21.44`	`darth_mall`	`hey hardwire`
`22:21.46`	`darth_mall`	`que pasa`
`22:22.09`	`darth_mall`	`purple_cow: allergies?`
`22:22.09`	`hardwire`	`mucho mucho!`
`22:22.20`	`purple_cow`	`cold`
`22:22.23`	`darth_mall`	`oh`
`22:23.41`	`slimspace`	`~stab slimspace's eyes`
`22:23.43`	`jbot`	`ACTION runs at slimspace's eyes with an origami Swiss Army knife, and inflicts a nasty paper cut.`
`22:23.48`	`darth_mall`	`~lart slimspace's eyes`
`22:23.52`	`darth_mall`	`hehe`
`22:23.58`	`slimspace`	`lol`
`22:24.10`	`darth_mall`	`naked supreme court justices`
`22:24.15`	`purple_cow`	`yow`
`22:24.17`	`slimspace`	`purple_cow: nothing in particular. My eyes are just killing me today`
`22:24.35`	`darth_mall`	`~rlart`
`22:24.39`	`darth_mall`	`hehe`
`22:24.41`	`darth_mall`	`take that!`
`22:24.41`	`purple_cow`	`ah`
`22:24.45`	`darth_mall`	`~yow`
`22:24.56`	`darth_mall`	`boooring`
`22:24.59`	`darth_mall`	`@familyguy`
`22:25.00`	`kbot`	`darth_mall: <Peter> That was then and this is now. And this is a chair. And that's a lamp. And you have boobies. And I'm gonna find that trophy.`
`22:25.04`	`slimspace`	`~botsnack`
`22:25.04`	`jbot`	`:), slimspace`
`22:25.24`	`darth_mall`	`kbot seems to like that quote`
`22:25.25`	`kbot`	`darth_mall: Error: "seems" is not a valid command.`
`22:25.32`	`darth_mall`	`stfu n00b`
`22:25.35`	`numist`	`haha`
`22:26.03`	`ChipX86`	`I was wrong about being able to see 2 fountains from my office`
`22:26.04`	`ChipX86`	`I can see 3`
`22:26.14`	`ChipX86`	`and a nice little pond`
`22:26.29`	`darth_mall`	`and a chair? and a lamp? and boobies?`
`22:26.33`	`numist`	`...`
`22:26.34`	`ChipX86`	`no boobies`
`22:26.37`	`kergoth`	`:(`
`22:26.39`	`darth_mall`	`='(`
`22:26.45`	`numist`	`ChipX86: if you eer get boobies as well, Im going to kill you`
`22:26.45`	`kergoth`	`@deepthought`
`22:26.46`	`kbot`	`kergoth: If I could go back and change one thing in my life, I think it would be that time I found that one-dollar bill on the sidewalk. I would change it to a million-dollar bill.`
`22:26.47`	`darth_mall`	`<tom>BOOBIES</tom>`
`22:27.02`	`ChipX86`	`this is just a very cool office`
`22:27.07`	`ChipX86`	`I can't get over it :)`
`22:27.13`	`darth_mall`	`can't, or won't?`
`22:27.18`	`ChipX86`	`both`
`22:27.21`	`darth_mall`	`noooooooooooooo`
`22:27.30`	`darth_mall`	`it's a good thing I came to this meeting`
`22:27.34`	`slimspace`	`why would you want to get over it? Seems to me you'd want to get _in_ it`
`22:27.34`	`numist`	`oh yeah, speaking of which.. ChipX86: what are you doing in 2 weeks?`
`22:27.45`	`darth_mall`	`porn shower?`
`22:27.46`	`ChipX86`	`numist: can you give me a date range?`
`22:27.54`	`numist`	`ChipX86: mon - fri?`
`22:28.06`	`ChipX86`	`which days of the month?`
`22:28.14`	`numist`	`um.. no idea.. sec`
`22:28.46`	`darth_mall`	`s/up //`
`22:28.46`	`numist`	`21 - 25, I think`
`22:28.56`	`numist`	`no, darth_mall, bad`
`22:29.15`	`ChipX86`	`working`
`22:29.20`	`numist`	`your downloading a disease?`
`22:29.33`	`numist`	`ChipX86: well.... yeah, but I mean in the off hours.. lets do food or something`
`22:29.58`	`slimspace`	`numist: not quite. Open source dot net framework`
`22:30.06`	`darth_mall`	`numist: it's the easiest way to get out of school`
`22:30.07`	`numist`	`slimspace: close enough!`
`22:30.28`	`ChipX86`	`o/~ Please come in the back door, close it behind you. I won't ever tell them you're here. Me, I like the trap doors. The keeping of a secret. Your affinity for deepness pulls me down. o/~`
`22:30.33`	`darth_mall`	`uhoh... is numist one of those everything-M$-does-sucks types?`
`22:30.34`	`ChipX86`	`numist: probably doable`
`22:30.38`	`numist`	`cool`
`22:30.42`	`ChipX86`	`.NET rocks`
`22:30.46`	`ChipX86`	`MS did a great job with it`
`22:30.53`	`TD`	`huh`
`22:30.56`	`TD`	`i will agree that .NET rocks`
`22:31.02`	`TD`	`i attribute the rockingess of .NET largely to Sun, however`
`22:31.08`	`numist`	`heh`
`22:31.09`	`TD`	`seeing as how it's basically a clone of java, done better`
`22:31.19`	`ChipX86`	`it's far more ambitious than Java in ways`
`22:31.26`	`TD`	`i also don't define anything defined by ECMA as open. check out their policies`
`22:31.40`	`TD`	`ECMA are basically a rubber stamp body. OTOH Java isn't open either, and that never stopped me using it before :)`
`22:31.42`	`darth_mall`	`porn showers?`
`22:31.43`	`TD`	`ChipX86: how so?`
`22:32.07`	`ChipX86`	`Sun never attempted any way of allowing people to write something for the VM using something other than Java`
`22:32.20`	`ChipX86`	`in .NET, you aren't limited to one language`
`22:32.25`	`TD`	`well, correct. but i'm not convinced many people use that facility`
`22:32.35`	`ChipX86`	`still, it's a good thing to have`
`22:32.38`	`slimspace`	`yay done downloading`
`22:32.41`	`TD`	`there was that big bitch-fest about how VB.NET isn't VB on slashdot`
`22:32.41`	`darth_mall`	`yay`
`22:32.43`	`TD`	`yeah, it is.`
`22:32.49`	`TD`	`but it's an evolution, rather than a revolution`
`22:32.54`	`ChipX86`	`yeah, I know`
`22:32.59`	`ChipX86`	`Sun did good stuff with Java`
`22:33.01`	`ChipX86`	`I like Java`
`22:33.01`	`TD`	`the JVM can support multiple languages too, sun never pushed that aspect though`
`22:33.03`	`TD`	`yeah`
`22:33.03`	`ChipX86`	`mainly`
`22:33.04`	`darth_mall`	`VB makes me sad`
`22:33.08`	`ChipX86`	`but .NET is really good too`
`22:33.09`	`TD`	`i mean, java does annoy me sometimes.`
`22:33.12`	`ChipX86`	`now it's time for Sun to do something like that`
`22:33.18`	`TD`	`but when i think back to what a revolution it was when it first came out`
`22:33.25`	`darth_mall`	`everytime you use VB Jesus kills a kitten`
`22:33.27`	`ChipX86`	`push Java as more of a multi-language solution`
`22:33.28`	`TD`	`i feel a slight fondness for sun. then it passes :)`
`22:33.31`	`ChipX86`	`yeah`
`22:33.41`	`TD`	`making java the language not suck would make me happy`
`22:33.53`	`TD`	`of course, i could just use gcj`
`22:34.06`	`TD`	`java, c++, c, Ada, objective-c`
`22:34.11`	`TD`	`all (mostly) mixable`
`22:34.14`	`darth_mall`	`ewww`
`22:34.14`	`TD`	`not very useful languages though`
`22:34.18`	`darth_mall`	`obj C makes me sad too`
`22:34.40`	`darth_mall`	`erm... what's wrong with C?`
`22:35.08`	`darth_mall`	`undo! undo!`
`22:35.13`	`ChipX86`	`yay Virus`
`22:35.50`	`ChipX86`	`o/~ I'd rather dull the pain, than stand out in the rain, to catch the Virus that seems to be, the undercurrent of my insanity. The lowest layer that has been fused, beneath my cycle of abuse. o/~`
`22:36.12`	`TD`	`i wonder when we'll see a truly revolutionary development/platform again`
`22:36.16`	`ChipX86`	`never!`
`22:36.18`	`ChipX86`	`tomorrow.`
`22:36.24`	`TD`	`maybe xul+mozilla will grow up one day`
`22:36.26`	`TD`	`that'd be good`
`22:36.26`	`darth_mall`	`I made one yesterday in my head`
`22:36.30`	`TD`	`they have some neat ideas`
`22:36.33`	`darth_mall`	`but I forgot it, cuz I didn't write it down`
`22:37.25`	`ChipX86`	`o/~ "It's just a virus," he says to me. "It's not quite the prison you make it out to be. Too bad you're dying, too bad but true, as is this cycle of you." o/~`
`22:37.26`	`TD`	`rdf templates are schpiffy`
`22:37.36`	`slimspace`	`grr...laptop's burning my leg`
`22:37.40`	`darth_mall`	`hehehe`
`22:38.55`	`purple_cow`	`hmm, andrzej is pretty quick at math in his head for a cs professor`
`22:39.23`	`ChipX86`	`maybe he's a cross-dressing cyborg`
`22:39.35`	`TD`	`with a name like that .... he's gotta be!`
`22:39.56`	`darth_mall`	`cyborg!`
`22:40.02`	`slimspace`	`mer`
`22:40.06`	`ChipX86`	`rem!`
`22:40.12`	`slimspace`	`mer!`
`22:40.18`	`darth_mall`	`erm!`
`22:40.43`	`numist`	`wow, ChipX86, how do you get anything done?`
`22:40.51`	`ChipX86`	`with elves`
`22:41.02`	`slimspace`	`ChipX86: could I get some of those elves?`
`22:41.08`	`numist`	`nice`
`22:41.14`	`ChipX86`	`they're mine. They love only me!`
`22:41.25`	`slimspace`	`oh...`
`22:44.35`	`TD`	`numist: he uses the amazing power of the X86 microchip`
`22:44.43`	`TD`	`it's slim and cooks in the oven!`
`22:44.55`	`numist`	`...`
`22:45.06`	`numist`	`amazing power of x86? amazing power of confusion, perhaps..`
`22:45.12`	`numist`	`that assembly haunts me to this day`
`22:45.52`	`numist`	`actually.. only one file haunts me.. x86 assembly isnt all bad`
`22:46.04`	`numist`	`but, I decompiled a program and it wound up being 30,000 lines`
`22:46.05`	`TD`	`lol`
`22:46.10`	`TD`	`well yeah`
`22:46.10`	`numist`	`and reading through it was painful`
`22:46.13`	`TD`	`but that's true of any modern CPU`
`22:46.24`	`numist`	`not entirely...`
`22:46.44`	`numist`	`any modern x86[\|_64] perhaps :P`
`22:46.55`	`TD`	`i've seen powerpc assembly`
`22:46.57`	`TD`	`that stuff is even more obscure`
`22:47.01`	`ChipX86`	`the number of registers in x86 is excessive`
`22:47.05`	`ChipX86`	`we could do with far less`
`22:47.07`	`ChipX86`	`3 would suffice`
`22:47.09`	`numist`	`I like ppc`
`22:47.11`	`numist`	`3?!`
`22:47.19`	`numist`	`how about... 32`
`22:47.38`	`ChipX86`	`pfft`
`22:47.38`	`ChipX86`	`3.`
`22:47.47`	`ChipX86`	`what can you do with 32 that you can't do with 3?`
`22:47.55`	`scanline`	`one register is enough`
`22:47.56`	`TD`	`haha`
`22:47.58`	`slimspace`	`then home!`
`22:47.59`	`TD`	`ChipX86: an excellent point`
`22:48.15`	`TD`	`OTOH why not just use the stack?`
`22:48.32`	`purple_cow`	`not everything can be solved with stacks ;)`
`22:48.33`	`TD`	`do turing machines have registers? I THINK NOT`
`22:48.41`	`scanline`	`ChipX86: so I have another vmware interview Wednesday, and I'll be talking to one of their USB guys =D`
`22:48.46`	`TD`	`infinite amounts of rabbits is all you need`
`22:48.49`	`TD`	`i think`
`22:48.56`	`TD`	`the details of turing machines elude me right now`
`22:49.03`	`TD`	`i am sure there were infinite amounts of something`
`22:49.07`	`TD`	`rabbits, monkeys, registers, whatever`
`22:49.10`	`TD`	`they're all the same`
`22:49.10`	`numist`	`well.. 2 is enough for most things`
`22:49.19`	`numist`	`maybe 3.. whats the 3rd for, chip?`
`22:49.39`	`ChipX86`	`silly network hiccup`
`22:49.43`	`ChipX86`	`scanline: nice :) who?`
`22:49.51`	`TD`	`numist: ELF`
`22:50.00`	`TD`	`see? the damn elves take their slice`
`22:50.04`	`numist`	`hehe`
`22:50.10`	`scanline`	`ChipX86: Chris Lee, if I wrote it down correctly`
`22:50.14`	`ChipX86`	`cool`
`22:50.23`	`numist`	`a char for each register? you can double those up :P`
`22:50.38`	`numist`	`shoot, 32 bits in ascii.. you can fit more than 2 chars in there :P`
`22:50.44`	`purple_cow`	`time to go play with protools some more`
`22:50.47`	`ChipX86`	`scanline: I'd imagine if you want the job and don't completely blow the interview, you'll get the job`
`22:51.01`	`TD`	`how many people does it take to write an emulator?`
`22:51.04`	`TD`	`ye gods`
`22:51.04`	`ChipX86`	`numist: not easily`
`22:51.10`	`TD`	`ChipX86: btw did you see that Win4Lin is based on qemu?`
`22:51.10`	`ChipX86`	`TD: it's more than an emulator`
`22:51.14`	`ChipX86`	`we do more than that :P`
`22:51.18`	`TD`	`heh`
`22:51.24`	`numist`	`ChipX86: yeah, but if you only have a fwe registers, and a lot of shorts/chars, bitmasking is a very attractive option`
`22:51.27`	`TD`	`VMware: it's more than an emulator`
`22:51.28`	`ChipX86`	`there's more htan one product and all`
`22:51.29`	`TD`	`it's a way of life`
`22:51.41`	`scanline`	`ChipX86: :)`
`22:51.46`	`ChipX86`	`numist: I'm of the belief that nothing should be bitmasked`
`22:51.53`	`ChipX86`	`under any circumstances`
`22:52.03`	`numist`	`ChipX86: well, its kinda pointless now that we have machines with gigs of ram`
`22:52.13`	`numist`	`programming for my wireless ap though...`
`22:52.17`	`scanline`	`ChipX86: I'm still not sure I want to leave boulder quite yet.. I'll have to carefully compare vmware to this local startup company I found. Either way it's cool :)`
`22:52.24`	`ChipX86`	`scanline: nod`
`22:52.27`	`TD`	`ChipX86: bitmasks are great`
`22:52.29`	`TD`	`they let you write stuff like this`
`22:52.39`	`TD`	`if (!(GetVersion() & 0x80000000)) {`
`22:52.43`	`TD`	`<PROTECTED>`
`22:52.44`	`TD`	`}`
`22:52.46`	`ChipX86`	`numist: I'm of the belief that gigs of ram are stupid. In a perfect design, a computer wouldn't need ram`
`22:52.48`	`TD`	`or whatever it means. i forget`
`22:52.58`	`numist`	`ChipX86: so what do you really need a 3rd register for? even switching 2 values can be done with 2 registers...`
`22:53.08`	`*** join/#tacobeam pagefault (pagefault@69.158.161.24)`
`22:53.08`	`numist`	`ChipX86: how do you propose a machine with no main mem.. fill it with L1 cache?`
`22:53.10`	`TD`	`ChipX86: i agree. a perfect design ... like the apple mac!`
`22:53.12`	`TD`	`which runs on maic`
`22:53.13`	`TD`	`magic`
`22:53.17`	`ChipX86`	`numist: redundancy in case there's data corruption`
`22:53.27`	`numist`	`haha register corruption.. ok`
`22:53.29`	`ChipX86`	`I love how numist is taking me seriously in any of the things I've said`
`22:53.37`	`numist`	`nah, Im just playing along`
`22:53.41`	`TD`	`A MACHINE WITH NO RAM`
`22:53.42`	`scanline`	`hah`
`22:53.43`	`TD`	`REVOLUTIONARY`
`22:53.45`	`*** join/#tacobeam cwisty (~default@ec237-70-dhcp.colorado.edu)`
`22:53.45`	`ChipX86`	`brb, got to help out someone`
`22:53.52`	`TD`	`WHO NEEDS RAM WHEN WE HAVE SWAP!?!?!?!`
`22:53.54`	`scanline`	`I guess could fill out my time sheet`
`22:53.56`	`numist`	`well, if you had a gig of L1 cache, that would be much better than ram`
`22:53.58`	`scanline`	`maybe even do some work...`
`22:54.04`	`cwisty`	`work?`
`22:54.04`	`TD`	`scanline: implement my amazing new gcc extension idea`
`22:54.10`	`scanline`	`TD: no!`
`22:54.16`	`TD`	`scanline: yes!`
`22:54.18`	`TD`	`you know you want to`
`22:54.22`	`scanline`	`TD: yes!`
`22:54.29`	`numist`	`..`
`22:54.34`	`TD`	`trees! data structures!`
`22:54.35`	`scanline`	`see, it sounds cool.. just not at all practical`
`22:54.37`	`TD`	`grammars!`
`22:54.40`	`TD`	`lol`
`22:54.57`	`TD`	`i haven't even attempted to think it through yet`
`22:55.32`	`numist`	`rio package?`
`22:55.37`	`TD`	`man, running the floyd-warshall algorithm by hand is such a pain in the ass`
`22:55.44`	`TD`	`i've covered two sides of a4 paper with matrices`
`22:55.55`	`scanline`	`numist: been writing a python package for talking to the Rio Karma`
`22:56.03`	`scanline`	`cwisty: have fun`
`22:56.22`	`cwisty`	`oh baby`
`22:56.25`	`scanline`	`heh, silly Jen.. forgot to log out of gmail on my machine`
`22:56.26`	`numist`	`scanline: nice`
`22:56.50`	`numist`	`might actually buy a rio.. seems like theres decent support for it on linux nowadays`
`22:57.00`	`scanline`	`nod`
`22:57.02`	`numist`	`now if only I could put linux on it :/`
`22:58.14`	`scanline`	`numist: the coolest thing about the rio karma is that it's 20GB for $180`
`22:58.23`	`numist`	`indeed`
`22:58.30`	`numist`	`I was thinking of a zen, but karma is good too`
`22:58.39`	`numist`	`all I need is money`
`22:58.42`	`scanline`	`zak has a zen`
`22:58.44`	`scanline`	`it looks quite cute`
`22:58.50`	`scanline`	`only 5GB, but tiny`
`22:58.57`	`numist`	`yeah`
`22:59.15`	`scanline`	`but no ogg :(`
`22:59.23`	`scanline`	`the rio karma does mp3, wma, ogg, flac, and wav`
`22:59.24`	`numist`	`linux would fix that`
`22:59.26`	`numist`	`just like linuxipod`
`22:59.35`	`scanline`	`hah`
`22:59.50`	`numist`	`makes the ipod almost usable`
`22:59.52`	`scanline`	`is there already a project for that, or do you have disgustingly huge amounts of free time?`
`23:00.02`	`numist`	`no, theres already a project for ipod`
`23:00.07`	`numist`	`I dont own an apple music player`
`23:00.07`	`scanline`	`I mean for the zen`
`23:00.11`	`numist`	`laptop, yes, ipod NO`
`23:00.21`	`numist`	`oh.. for the zen? I might have to accumulate some free time :P`
`23:00.25`	`scanline`	`ipods are cute, but they're way overpriced and I wouldn't trust the battery`
`23:00.50`	`numist`	`haha, yes the batteries are an issue`
`23:00.55`	`numist`	`oh noes!! lag!`
`23:01.40`	`numist`	`damnit why wont my timestamp setting save in irssi now.. damnitall`
`23:03.37`	`numist`	`so wait.. the zen doesnt play ogg?`
`23:03.47`	`numist`	`:/ guess its time to keep lookin, maybe I will do the karma`
`23:05.42`	`scanline`	`I haven't tried the karma's USB, but it has ethernet and it's pretty well supported by java software they include`
`23:05.53`	`scanline`	`and the protocol has been reverse engineered, so there are a couple open source libraries`
`23:06.06`	`scanline`	`the ethernet is a little buggy.. doesn't work out of the box with a lot of switches`
`23:06.09`	`scanline`	`but I found a workaround for that`
`23:06.43`	`numist`	`hmm.. mayyeah, the eth is one really attractive option.. how does that work, as an nfs-mountable drive?`
`23:07.08`	`scanline`	`no, it's a custom protocol`
`23:07.15`	`scanline`	`the karma doesn't use a normal filesystem, it's a database`
`23:07.32`	`numist`	`how odd`
`23:07.59`	`scanline`	`it works nicely, you just don't ever get direct access to the disks and it doesn't really have 'files' as most systems do`
`23:08.25`	`numist`	`yeah.. so putting linux on it will be a huge pain in the ass if I ever decide to try that route`
`23:08.28`	`numist`	`hows the UI?`
`23:08.30`	`scanline`	`yeah`
`23:08.38`	`scanline`	`the UI is decent. nothing revolutionary, but it's easy to use`
`23:09.07`	`numist`	`useful? does it have enough options to keep the user happy?`
`23:09.41`	`scanline`	`yes, plenty of options`
`23:10.14`	`numist`	`hmm... price is right, hardware is right... might be the right thing to get`
`23:10.15`	`scanline`	`it'd be nice if it had a spectrum analyzer display, but it does have VU meters and a cute little song progress thiny`
`23:10.33`	`numist`	`heh`
`23:10.43`	`numist`	`a s[ectrum analyzer always rocks, but thats a lot of cpu for such a small box`
`23:10.48`	`numist`	`gah lag`
`23:11.44`	`scanline`	`yeah`
`23:12.01`	`scanline`	`IIRC the karma and the ipod run the same CPU`
`23:12.11`	`scanline`	`that crazy dual-ARM thing from PortalPlayer`
`23:12.31`	`numist`	`nice`
`23:12.34`	`scanline`	`hmm`
`23:12.38`	`scanline`	`the screen scuffs up easily :(`
`23:12.42`	`scanline`	`I should get a protector thingy for it`
`23:12.51`	`numist`	`no skins or anything for it like the ipod?`
`23:12.57`	`scanline`	`I'm sure they exist`
`23:13.11`	`numist`	`thats one thing about the ipod.. stupidly easy interface...`
`23:13.21`	`numist`	`probably the only reason why its done well`
`23:15.14`	`kergoth`	`if you can afford the extra cost, the iriver models are nice as well. the h1xx and h320 are getting rockbox support.`
`23:15.24`	`numist`	`?`
`23:16.02`	`ChipX86`	`back`
`23:17.04`	`darth_mall`	`well... that was cute`
`23:17.06`	`darth_mall`	`nice little accident on Canyon as I'm walking home`
`23:17.13`	`numist`	`nice`
`23:17.19`	`scanline`	`http://www.protectyourkarma.us/karma-catalog.html`
`23:17.28`	`numist`	`all of them?`
`23:17.59`	`scanline`	`heh`
`23:19.09`	`darth_mall`	`grrr... damn panel`
`23:22.28`	`darth_mall`	`heh... I think it's gonna take a while for mpd to create a db of all the music in /navi/media/audio`
`23:24.07`	`numist`	`mpd?`
`23:24.50`	`scanline`	`darth_mall: look, you're making spreadfs use 50% of navi's cpu!`
`23:25.15`	`darth_mall`	`eep`
`23:25.19`	`darth_mall`	`scanline: do you want me to kill it?`
`23:25.20`	`scanline`	`hehe`
`23:25.21`	`scanline`	`no`
`23:25.24`	`darth_mall`	`ok`
`23:25.24`	`scanline`	`it's just funny`
`23:25.33`	`scanline`	`I never intended that thing to be light on the CPU usage`
`23:25.34`	`darth_mall`	`I can just have it do groups, if it gets to be a bother`
`23:25.41`	`scanline`	`don't worry at all`
`23:25.43`	`darth_mall`	`mk`
`23:25.48`	`scanline`	`it's supposed to do that :P`
`23:26.08`	`darth_mall`	`it'll allow me to browse by id3 tags and play (supposedly) aac`
`23:26.17`	`darth_mall`	`yay... done with composers/`
`23:26.26`	`darth_mall`	`now it's doing the goon show`
`23:27.00`	`darth_mall`	`and now on to groups`
`23:27.07`	`darth_mall`	`it sure isn't doing this in any semblance of an order`
`23:27.11`	`numist`	`mpd? apt-cache is sparingly low on info about it`
`23:27.31`	`darth_mall`	`numist: check they're webpage`
`23:27.43`	`darth_mall`	`basically, it's a music player you run as a daemon`
`23:27.43`	`numist`	`yeah, going there now`
`23:27.47`	`darth_mall`	`then you can connect clients to it`
`23:28.01`	`numist`	`whats the requirement for a client?`
`23:28.03`	`darth_mall`	`I'm trying it because it says it can play AAC, and I'm tired of listening to music I get from my dad in mplayer`
`23:28.07`	`darth_mall`	`dunno`
`23:28.12`	`darth_mall`	`I installed the gnome one`
`23:28.26`	`numist`	`nice, this could be really useful for annoying my roommates!`
`23:29.08`	`numist`	`or a winamp plugin :X`
`23:29.15`	`numist`	`whoa, web interface!~`
`23:29.19`	`numist`	`that would work`
`23:29.21`	`darth_mall`	`http://gdesklets.gnomedesktop.org/categories.php?func=gd_show_app&gd_app_id=237 <--- yuck`
`23:30.33`	`numist`	`wow, this is pretty impressive software.. nifty`
`23:30.49`	`darth_mall`	`cool... there's a gdesklet for it`
`23:30.52`	`ChipX86`	`is gdesklets at all fast anymore?`
`23:30.55`	`ChipX86`	`er, yet`
`23:30.58`	`scanline`	`darth_mall: that looks pretty cool`
`23:31.09`	`darth_mall`	`not very perdy`
`23:31.13`	`darth_mall`	`scanline: what does? mpd?`
`23:31.18`	`scanline`	`yeah`
`23:31.24`	`darth_mall`	`yeah, I'm looking forward to trying it out`
`23:31.25`	`TD`	`is it even usable?`
`23:31.29`	`darth_mall`	`TD: sure`
`23:31.37`	`kergoth`	`it always looked interesting, but never really played with it all that much`
`23:31.39`	`TD`	`when i first installed it i spent 10 minutes trying to figure out how to add desklets`
`23:31.46`	`kergoth`	`(mpt that is)`
`23:31.56`	`darth_mall`	`TD: yeah, I remember having issues like that`
`23:31.59`	`ChipX86`	`gdesklets was always slow here`
`23:31.59`	`darth_mall`	`haven't used them in a while`
`23:32.05`	`darth_mall`	`mostly content with the gnome-panel monitors`
`23:32.09`	`darth_mall`	`but slimspace\|away uses them`
`23:32.10`	`ChipX86`	`gkrellm was good enough`
`23:32.37`	`scanline`	`hmm, gkrellm.. haven't used that in a while`
`23:32.47`	`darth_mall`	`I think I'll be pretty happy with mpd as long as it doesn't insert space between tracks`
`23:33.11`	`darth_mall`	`I like rhythmbox because it lets me browse by tags, but I hate that it seems to always insert silence between tracks`
`23:33.22`	`ChipX86`	`yay rio for not doing that`
`23:33.44`	`darth_mall`	`man it's taking a long time to crate a db of /navi/media/audio ^^`
`23:33.51`	`darth_mall`	`but it's a hell of a lot faster then r-b`
`23:34.08`	`kergoth`	`i should do some tagging/naming`
`23:34.18`	`kergoth`	`lsat i looked, i had 125 gigs worth that needed fixing up`
`23:34.20`	`kergoth`	`:\`
`23:34.23`	`scanline`	`darth_mall: well, you probably can't blame it too much.. /navi is fairly slow`
`23:35.27`	`darth_mall`	`scanline: blame which for what? this db creation taking so long?`
`23:35.42`	`scanline`	`yeah`
`23:35.52`	`darth_mall`	`I wasn't really complaining, I think it's pretty funny ^^`
`23:36.03`	`darth_mall`	`plus, it makes me glad that we have that much music ^^`
`23:36.06`	`scanline`	`:)`
`23:36.14`	`darth_mall`	`yay! onto soundtracks!`
`23:36.21`	`darth_mall`	`should be the last one`
`23:36.27`	`darth_mall`	`then we can fire up the daemon and see how things go`
`23:37.46`	`ChipX86`	`crash`
`23:38.28`	`*** join/#tacobeam pagefault (pagefault@69.158.161.24)`
`23:38.51`	`kergoth`	`bleh`
`23:39.30`	`*** part/#tacobeam cwisty (~default@ec237-70-dhcp.colorado.edu)`
`23:42.11`	`darth_mall`	`hmm... I think I just told it to redo all that stuff it just did`
`23:42.50`	`kergoth`	`heh`
`23:43.09`	`pagefault`	`weird`
`23:43.20`	`pagefault`	`getting extreme lag over wireless`
`23:43.20`	`pagefault`	`and I am like 10 ft from the AP`
`23:44.36`	`numist`	`must be radio interference in the air... Im getting lagged too :P`
`23:44.51`	`pagefault`	`hehe`
`23:44.52`	`pagefault`	`sunspots!`
`23:45.03`	`numist`	`yeah, thats it`
`23:45.18`	`kergoth`	`hm, my dad uploaded something to my box he found on usenet`
`23:45.28`	`kergoth`	`full archive of all the digital blasphemy images, members and not`
`23:45.34`	`numist`	`wow`
`23:46.01`	`darth_mall`	`dammit`
`23:46.14`	`darth_mall`	`I can't figure out where the file browser is for this player`
`23:46.32`	`numist`	`the php display version has a file browser`
`23:46.34`	`numist`	`:X`
`23:46.43`	`darth_mall`	`lol`
`23:46.49`	`darth_mall`	`this is terrible`
`23:46.52`	`pagefault`	`hmm it's fine now`
`23:46.54`	`pagefault`	`RF sucks`
`23:46.56`	`darth_mall`	`all I can find is the playlist thing`
`23:46.56`	`pagefault`	`hehe`
`23:59.09`	`darth_mall`	`hm... well I can use the ncurses client`
`23:59.59`	`darth_mall`	`hehehe!`

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