| 00:00.05 | darth_mall | me! |
| 00:01.33 | CIA-3 | navi-misc: 03micah * r7129 10spreadfs/spreadfs.py: |
| 00:01.33 | CIA-3 | navi-misc: * Added timestamps to the log |
| 00:01.33 | CIA-3 | navi-misc: * Completely ignore exist/endExist events. We do a lot of event transformation now, so we might as well bail out quick for the ones we don't end up using |
| 00:01.33 | CIA-3 | navi-misc: * Log transformed events rather than raw events |
| 00:01.33 | CIA-3 | navi-misc: * As part of the event transformation, ensure that filenames are relative not absolute. This fixes at least some of our weirdness with moving files around. |
| 00:02.56 | Nara | Okay, I'm ignoring the naughty_rocket channel. They're being immature.... |
| 00:03.13 | scanline | is that a naughty_rocket in your pocket? |
| 00:03.34 | scanline | purple_cow: is it any happier now? |
| 00:03.57 | ChipX86 | grrrrr |
| 00:04.02 | ChipX86 | so not amusing. |
| 00:04.09 | ChipX86 | this didn't used to lock everything up |
| 00:04.16 | purple_cow | scanline: looks happier |
| 00:04.26 | scanline | purple_cow: well you haven't moved any files yet :P |
| 00:04.28 | ChipX86 | oh well, got the pics |
| 00:04.41 | purple_cow | scanline: well, yeah. i don't have any files to move :P |
| 00:04.47 | purple_cow | but that directory listing is happier |
| 00:05.26 | scanline | purple_cow: that's just going to be because I restarted it |
| 00:05.27 | scanline | oh well |
| 00:05.35 | ChipX86 | great, nothing in /var/log/messages of any help |
| 00:05.38 | scanline | can't really debug this if I don't have anybody willing to try to reproduce problems |
| 00:05.58 | scanline | ChipX86: try reproducing the crash outside of X, to see if you get any visible kernel messages? |
| 00:06.27 | ChipX86 | yeah, going to some time. Too much to do right now though |
| 00:06.33 | scanline | yeah |
| 00:07.47 | purple_cow | oof, wireless just went all flaky |
| 00:09.11 | kergoth | damnit, today must end faster. |
| 00:09.37 | CIA-3 | openembedded: 03kergoth 07 * r1.3151 10openembedded/packages/zlib/ (zlib_1.2.2.bb files/visibility.patch): Fix up the zlib visibility bits, and apply that patch again. |
| 00:12.22 | ChipX86 | you should take a nap then |
| 00:12.30 | ChipX86 | fight that off as best as you can |
| 00:13.02 | Nara | Yeah. I think I'll go doze. But hey, first, did you read about that Deviantart Summit? |
| 00:13.13 | ChipX86 | I saw the post but didn't actually read it. Where is it? |
| 00:13.19 | ChipX86 | (the summit, not the post) |
| 00:13.19 | Nara | Santa Monica |
| 00:13.25 | ChipX86 | hmm, when? |
| 00:13.31 | hardwire | haha |
| 00:13.33 | hardwire | darmail |
| 00:13.36 | Nara | June 16 and 17 I think |
| 00:13.40 | ChipX86 | cool |
| 00:13.40 | hardwire | that idea has crozzed my mind too many times in the past |
| 00:13.44 | ChipX86 | we should do that |
| 00:14.05 | purple_cow | sigh, still no response from anderson |
| 00:14.08 | ChipX86 | I wish I had a better camera |
| 00:14.10 | Nara | 7 hours to register at only $40. After that it goes up |
| 00:14.22 | ChipX86 | oh wow |
| 00:14.30 | darth_mall | purple_cow: well, if he were to respond in a timely fashion that would be responsible or something |
| 00:14.39 | darth_mall | can't have that |
| 00:15.09 | ChipX86 | I should have these pics done soonish |
| 00:15.30 | Nara | It would be fun to go, but I'd be soooo outclassed |
| 00:15.34 | ChipX86 | pfft |
| 00:15.40 | ChipX86 | *I* would be so outclassed |
| 00:15.52 | Nara | ^-^;; |
| 00:16.22 | Nara | But with Fanime in may, I think I should save money. |
| 00:16.25 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 00:16.33 | ChipX86 | yaoicon cost me a fortune in the long run! ;) |
| 00:16.37 | Nara | and maybe go to the summit next year |
| 00:16.47 | Nara | lol sorry about that |
| 00:16.52 | ChipX86 | haha nah, I'm glad |
| 00:17.10 | Nara | And you were such a good sport about it too |
| 00:17.27 | ChipX86 | it was fun for the most part, and I got a girlfriend out of it |
| 00:17.42 | purple_cow | yay, bug report filed |
| 00:17.46 | Nara | Lol I told you there were plenty of single girls |
| 00:18.08 | ChipX86 | i'm so glad I didn't register to be in the auction thing |
| 00:18.18 | Nara | Yeah. Me too. |
| 00:18.20 | ChipX86 | first, nobody would have bid on me |
| 00:18.35 | Nara | O__O |
| 00:18.36 | ChipX86 | second, I'd make a fool out of myself |
| 00:18.40 | Nara | Oh well. |
| 00:18.53 | Nara | ^-^ Plenty of other fun things happened |
| 00:18.57 | ChipX86 | yep |
| 00:19.10 | ChipX86 | Jamie and I worked on our "how we met" story last night |
| 00:19.17 | Nara | lol |
| 00:19.20 | purple_cow | hopefully alex can fix it in a timely fashion :) |
| 00:19.43 | ChipX86 | she decided she wants to say, "We both met at a convention for gay [something]" I can't remember what it was actually.. |
| 00:19.54 | Nara | well, I'm gonna go rest. I'll be on later |
| 00:19.55 | Nara | lol |
| 00:20.00 | ChipX86 | ok :) cya later |
| 00:20.04 | ChipX86 | *hug* |
| 00:20.09 | Nara | *hug* |
| 00:21.23 | ChipX86 | a lot of these pics turned out decently |
| 00:32.00 | CIA-3 | openembedded: 03kergoth 07 * r1.3153 10openembedded/packages/zlib/ (zlib_1.2.2.bb files/visibility.patch): Another zlib visibility fix. It's fixed now. Really, it is! |
| 00:40.25 | slimspace | purple_cow, darth_mall: what did you email Anderson about? |
| 00:41.50 | purple_cow | slimspace: i had a question about double dispatch |
| 00:42.05 | slimspace | ah |
| 00:42.05 | purple_cow | wanted to make sure it was the dirty hack it looked like |
| 00:45.38 | ChipX86 | http://osiris.chipx86.com/photos/apartment/ |
| 00:46.50 | scanline | wow |
| 00:47.00 | scanline | lookit all the foilage ;) |
| 00:47.03 | ChipX86 | yep |
| 00:47.11 | ChipX86 | this is all within the past few days or so, I htink |
| 00:47.15 | ChipX86 | I didn't notice a lot of it until very recently |
| 00:47.52 | CIA-3 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r7130 10xchat-gnome/fe-gnome/ (3 files): significantly less crashy |
| 00:47.58 | pagefault | free booze for all |
| 00:48.20 | CIA-3 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r7131 10xchat-gnome/fe-gnome/ROADMAP: call it done! |
| 00:49.06 | scanline | purple_cow: I can see some cases when double dispatch would be useful |
| 00:49.11 | scanline | http://www.javaperformancetuning.com/articles/ddispatch2.shtml |
| 00:49.15 | scanline | this article has some examples |
| 00:49.20 | purple_cow | scanline: only in a language without multimethods |
| 00:49.33 | scanline | none of them are great, but I think the way I dispatch commands in my rio doodad might be double dispatch |
| 00:49.35 | scanline | multimethods? |
| 00:49.42 | purple_cow | granted, most languages don't have multimethods, but dammit, they should |
| 00:51.23 | pagefault | bleh snow |
| 00:51.58 | ChipX86 | ick |
| 00:52.10 | pagefault | when is this caffeinated beer coming out |
| 00:57.04 | purple_cow | ahh |
| 00:57.20 | purple_cow | so yeah, the same thing can be done via multimethods |
| 00:57.36 | purple_cow | it's just a shame that the only real languages that have it are smalltalk and perl6 =/ |
| 00:58.07 | ChipX86 | what are multimethodS? |
| 00:58.07 | scanline | it's just one of those things, like a Factory, that can be replaced with language features in all the examples they give you- but that does have good uses you usually don't see |
| 00:59.03 | purple_cow | ChipX86: a nifty dispatching feature you can get with late binding |
| 01:00.09 | scanline | something that python would probably have if arguments were typed ;) |
| 01:00.15 | purple_cow | yep |
| 01:02.55 | kergoth | whee, swelling sucks |
| 01:02.58 | kergoth | my lip is all out of whack |
| 01:03.15 | ChipX86 | one of many reasons why I will never do that |
| 01:03.21 | scanline | indeed |
| 01:04.25 | ChipX86 | oh yay, sharp stomach pain |
| 01:05.08 | kergoth | doh |
| 01:06.08 | ChipX86 | owww |
| 01:08.12 | scanline | um |
| 01:08.23 | scanline | that time it took like two hours to clean was when I did it |
| 01:08.48 | purple_cow | only took about 10 minutes both times i did it yesterday |
| 01:11.11 | purple_cow | ooh, cool |
| 01:11.24 | purple_cow | someone ported the "substrate" thing from complexification into an xscreensaver hack |
| 01:13.06 | purple_cow | wow, that's very pretty =D |
| 01:13.28 | CIA-3 | navi-misc: 03micah * r7132 10rio-karma/python/ (9 files in 2 dirs): Split RioKarma into 6 files |
| 01:15.35 | scanline | mm |
| 01:15.43 | scanline | this allocation tree still gives me a warm fuzzy feeling |
| 01:16.12 | scanline | finds an unused file ID in constant time, with a database that takes less than 8k on disk |
| 01:16.59 | scanline | well, I guess it's actually O(log N).. but N is constant for this particular case |
| 01:18.53 | ChipX86 | ahh, I don't have it on here |
| 01:20.58 | scanline | ugh |
| 01:21.05 | scanline | I just *love* the people that /msg me asking me if CIA is working |
| 01:21.12 | purple_cow | heh |
| 01:21.12 | scanline | then the first thing I do is look at the web page and #commits |
| 01:21.13 | ChipX86 | :/ |
| 01:21.14 | scanline | then I say 'yes' |
| 01:21.20 | scanline | and they tell me what the real problem is |
| 01:21.20 | ChipX86 | idiots |
| 01:22.26 | scanline | then 95% of the time it's just a client side problem |
| 01:23.42 | scanline | it's probably because I vent in here, and not to them... |
| 01:23.51 | ChipX86 | yep |
| 01:24.20 | CIA-3 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r7133 10xchat-gnome/fe-gnome/BUGS: looks like the schema install is doing what it's supposed to. not sure what else i can do |
| 01:29.14 | ChipX86 | awwww |
| 01:29.19 | ChipX86 | Pat McGovern is leaving SourceFroge |
| 01:29.22 | ChipX86 | er, Forge |
| 01:29.33 | purple_cow | hmm, sourcefrog |
| 01:29.52 | ChipX86 | you made me choke on my cookie |
| 01:30.35 | scanline | yay |
| 01:33.53 | darth_mall | grr... that didn't get hot... |
| 01:34.23 | CIA-3 | zsnes: 03pagefault * 10zsnes/src/ (cpu/regsw.inc gui/guimisc.inc): TG3000 flickering fix in H-IRQ timing |
| 01:39.36 | CIA-3 | zsnes: 03pagefault * 10zsnes/src/gui/guimisc.inc: Rollback of stupid file |
| 01:43.19 | ChipX86 | I love how ISPs advertise their connections as "super fast" |
| 01:43.56 | purple_cow | well, they're not going to advertise it as "moderately fast" or "mind-numbingly slow" |
| 01:44.15 | ChipX86 | true |
| 01:45.43 | *** join/#tacobeam KeyserLaptop (~gazicm@user-0cej5mv.cable.mindspring.com) |
| 01:49.00 | file | lots of dual |
| 01:49.11 | KeyserLaptop | ooh, and dual gigabit NICs |
| 01:49.20 | KeyserLaptop | i'm sure *that* is a dual i don't need |
| 01:49.29 | ChipX86 | "There's no redundancy for that particular system." "So you're saying there's no redundancy." |
| 01:49.32 | ChipX86 | I love Jack O'Neill |
| 01:49.36 | file | :) |
| 01:49.38 | nullpuppy | looking at a s940 sli board eh? |
| 01:49.57 | KeyserLaptop | the structure i send to FlightGear to position and orient the A/C is only 384 bytes. and it is only needed once per frame |
| 01:50.25 | purple_cow | so like this: |
| 01:50.26 | KeyserLaptop | nullpuppy: know of a good one? |
| 01:50.27 | purple_cow | http://tyan.com/products/html/thunderk8we.html |
| 01:50.29 | purple_cow | :) |
| 01:50.51 | nullpuppy | KeyserLaptop: hmm.. for s940.. not sure, for s939, i'd suggest the msi k8n neo4 plat/sli |
| 01:50.52 | KeyserLaptop | ooh, nice |
| 01:51.05 | nullpuppy | but.. yeah.. for 940.. yeah, probably tyan |
| 01:51.26 | purple_cow | the tyan board is a monster :) |
| 01:52.15 | KeyserLaptop | actually, i just read a review on anandtech, and the DFI lanparty UT NF4 Ultra-D, which is only $140, benchmarked as well as any other socket939 board with dual PCI-E x16 slots |
| 01:52.41 | KeyserLaptop | amazing you can get that for $140 |
| 01:53.24 | KeyserLaptop | damn, pricewatch has the Thunder K8WE for $488 at one place, and $590 at another |
| 01:53.47 | purple_cow | mmmm, leftover chinese |
| 01:53.54 | ChipX86 | sci-fi has a new "Sci-Fi Pictures original" movie called "Mansquito" |
| 01:54.01 | darth_mall | oooh |
| 01:54.04 | KeyserLaptop | hehe |
| 01:54.13 | ChipX86 | from the commercial, it looks to be about a guy who gets bitten by a mosquito, gets west nile, and turns into a giant mosquito |
| 01:54.21 | kergoth | ChipX86: haha |
| 01:54.23 | ChipX86 | it looks like a guy in a giant rubber suit from a 70s movie |
| 01:55.52 | KeyserLaptop | i'd prefer a simpler nforce chipset name, like "4" |
| 01:56.03 | nullpuppy | lol |
| 01:56.13 | file | whoever gave me a headache, I don't like you :( |
| 01:56.39 | purple_cow | heh |
| 01:56.47 | purple_cow | KeyserLaptop: the 2200/2050 is a pretty slick system |
| 01:56.58 | purple_cow | nifty scalability |
| 01:57.08 | KeyserLaptop | how does it relate to 4? or 3, for that matter? |
| 01:57.19 | purple_cow | i think it's part of their 4 line |
| 01:57.32 | KeyserLaptop | ah, just what i wanted to hear :) |
| 01:58.10 | nullpuppy | yeah, the Pro line is the opteron version of the nforce4 |
| 01:58.12 | nullpuppy | iirc |
| 01:58.51 | KeyserLaptop | it'd be nice to have a small form factor system that had dual 940, with dual dual channel DDR, the nForce4 chipset, and 2 PCI-E x16 slots |
| 01:59.13 | nullpuppy | hahahahahaha |
| 01:59.15 | nullpuppy | you're nuts |
| 01:59.16 | KeyserLaptop | the iWill ZMAXDP is dual socket 940, but nForce 3, and one dual channel ddr 400, and agp 8x |
| 01:59.21 | nullpuppy | sff with dual everything? |
| 02:00.04 | KeyserLaptop | the new shuttle nForce4 SFF is single socket 939, (obviously) single dual channel ddr400, has one PCI-E x16, and one PCI-E x2 IIRC |
| 02:00.48 | KeyserLaptop | it'd all physically fit in one box fine, but would require immersion in flourinert to cool it :p |
| 02:01.05 | nullpuppy | hehe, yeah |
| 02:01.20 | nullpuppy | and require a small nuclear reactor to power it |
| 02:01.26 | KeyserLaptop | er, fluorinert. flourinert would just end up baking into a giant loaf of bread |
| 02:01.27 | file | yay nuclear reactor |
| 02:01.40 | nullpuppy | lol |
| 02:02.08 | KeyserLaptop | it wouldn't take more power than the tyan board. but, the power supply you need for the tyan board is probably the size of a SFF system :D |
| 02:04.22 | ChipX86 | we should play freeciv again sometime |
| 02:04.47 | KeyserLaptop | i better find/generate more solid benchmarks for FlightGear before telling my boss what hardware he should buy |
| 02:05.09 | KeyserLaptop | it'll be retarded if i tell them to get the $500 tyan MB, two $600 operons, $500 worth of memory, 2 $600 video cards, and then triple that two have straight ahead, left, and right, and then it turns out not to be necessary |
| 02:05.37 | KeyserLaptop | hehe. s/two have/to have/. /me has dual on the brain |
| 02:07.19 | darth_mall | KeyserLaptop: you're a munky |
| 02:07.26 | KeyserLaptop | that's true |
| 02:08.31 | ChipX86 | so sleepy |
| 02:08.39 | KeyserLaptop | what i should do is buy one nVidia GF FX 6800 for benchmarking, cause it's only $300. then just plug it into a stupid Dell we already have. then, if the framerate is good enough, just buy two more, along with two more stupid ass Dells. or else 3 SFF socket 939 nForce4 shuttles |
| 02:09.10 | file | I like my Dell. |
| 02:11.47 | KeyserLaptop | yours is pretty nice though, isn't it? |
| 02:12.00 | darth_mall | fuckin' cough |
| 02:12.05 | KeyserLaptop | hehe |
| 02:12.26 | file | P4 3.4GHz/64-bit/HT, 80GB SATA, PCI-E 8x, only 256MB of RAM though |
| 02:12.28 | KeyserLaptop | i hate it when they buy a fricking 2.8GHz celeron, that performs like a 1ghz P3 |
| 02:12.55 | file | after taxes and shipping, $640 USD |
| 02:13.21 | CIA-3 | zsnes: 03pagefault * 10zsnes/src/cpu/regsw.inc: Ok so I can't read my own notes, fix the fix |
| 02:14.14 | file | they have since doubled the price of the CPU ;) |
| 02:14.19 | KeyserLaptop | $640? onboard video? |
| 02:14.23 | file | yes |
| 02:14.33 | file | but you can use a 16x PCI-E vidcard in the 8x sot |
| 02:14.36 | file | er slot |
| 02:14.40 | file | it's a 16x connector |
| 02:15.23 | KeyserLaptop | what OS? |
| 02:15.35 | file | I run a pure 64-bit Debian on it |
| 02:15.55 | file | http://configure.us.dell.com/dellstore/config.aspx?c=us&cs=04&kc=6W300&l=en&oc=sc420sapp&s=bsd |
| 02:15.57 | file | go have fun |
| 02:16.28 | pagefault | I run PURE |
| 02:16.38 | KeyserLaptop | yeah, it starts with a 2.53GHz celeron, which is just lame |
| 02:16.55 | file | KeyserLaptop: it's an extra $99 for a 2.8GHz p4 with 1MB of L2 cache |
| 02:17.09 | file | extra $10 for 80GB SATA hardrive |
| 02:17.24 | file | onboard NIC is a Broadcom Netxtreme gigabit |
| 02:17.43 | KeyserLaptop | why do you have 256MB of ram? |
| 02:17.50 | KeyserLaptop | that's the first thing i woulda upgraded |
| 02:17.52 | file | because I bought from the Canadian site? |
| 02:18.13 | file | it was cheaper to buy outside of Dell |
| 02:18.15 | KeyserLaptop | oh, are you adding ram seperately from the initial purchase? |
| 02:18.20 | KeyserLaptop | ah, okay. |
| 02:18.30 | file | I'll give you a comparison in a sec |
| 02:18.45 | file | so, an extra $136 for another 256MB stick |
| 02:19.08 | file | for the same I can get 512MB from Tigerdirect |
| 02:19.11 | KeyserLaptop | i guess i can't blame dell if my company is stupid enough to buy celerons and then leave 256MB in them, or 512MB even after it's obviously swapping like a madman |
| 02:19.26 | file | but the SC420 is a really cheap model, works great too |
| 02:19.47 | *** join/#tacobeam JeffM2501 (~jeffm@Patlabor221.active.supporter.pdpc) |
| 02:23.40 | darth_mall | man I hope this test tomorrow is easy |
| 02:24.01 | CIA-3 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r7134 10xchat-gnome/fe-gnome/TODO: maybe working |
| 02:24.27 | scanline | sqlite's way of escaping data is funky |
| 02:24.50 | scanline | I'm sure it has a much better worst-case efficiency than the standard way, but.. ick |
| 02:25.27 | ChipX86 | ditech needs to not make commercials again |
| 02:27.55 | purple_cow | KeyserLaptop: why anger? |
| 02:28.05 | purple_cow | (just choose 'small business') |
| 02:28.29 | KeyserLaptop | purple_cow: do you want a "Dimension", "OptiPlex", or "Precision"? |
| 02:28.57 | file | I like the Precision of a Dimension of the OptiPlex |
| 02:29.02 | file | ~lart file |
| 02:29.11 | KeyserLaptop | some are network optimized and business class, while others offer industry leading technology, and still oters are have superior performance |
| 02:29.42 | file | the only thing is it takes a century to get your machine, well, it did for me |
| 02:30.14 | kergoth | hm |
| 02:30.18 | kergoth | i seem to have forgotten to eat dinner |
| 02:30.29 | file | kergoth: you and your silly dinner |
| 02:31.18 | purple_cow | KeyserLaptop: well, dimension is a normal desktop, optiplex is a workstation, and precision is...a laptop, i think? |
| 02:31.50 | KeyserLaptop | bzzt. wrong! |
| 02:32.13 | file | the only thing about the poweredge sc420 that annoys me is that no OS supports the onboard video |
| 02:32.59 | purple_cow | bah! i hate it when the audio track says "onii-chan!" and the subtitles say "Youko!" |
| 02:33.23 | KeyserLaptop | ooh, dell will help me choose a system |
| 02:33.39 | file | oh no, not help |
| 02:34.16 | file | ooh what a pretty door |
| 02:34.17 | KeyserLaptop | should i get "lots of processing power", or "the latest technology" |
| 02:34.39 | pagefault | yes |
| 02:34.42 | pagefault | you need help from dell |
| 02:34.43 | KeyserLaptop | or, i could "connect to the most peripherals" |
| 02:34.48 | pagefault | so they can best charge you the most money |
| 02:35.27 | laodamas | if the Broadcast Decency Enforcement Act passes the senate, saying "f*cking brilliant" on the air would carry the exact same penalty as illegally testing pesticides on human subjects |
| 02:36.04 | pagefault | what happened to freedom of expression? |
| 02:36.04 | KeyserLaptop | that you, in turn, would have pesticides tested on you? |
| 02:36.22 | KeyserLaptop | but, you know, and eye for an eye and all |
| 02:36.22 | pagefault | I think if people don't like something |
| 02:36.26 | pagefault | they can always change the channel |
| 02:36.46 | laodamas | $500,000 per incident |
| 02:36.56 | KeyserLaptop | fuck that's a lot of money |
| 02:37.08 | laodamas | up from $32,500 |
| 02:38.29 | ChipX86 | we don't have enough alien devices on this planet |
| 02:38.34 | laodamas | thank god the FCC has no jusridiction over the interweb |
| 02:38.56 | KeyserLaptop | ChipX86: if those bastards at area 51 wouldn't bogart them, there'd be plenty to go around |
| 02:39.29 | KeyserLaptop | i tried, really i did |
| 02:40.16 | pagefault | holy crap |
| 02:40.22 | pagefault | this guy in my CS program |
| 02:40.24 | pagefault | is using NETSCAPE |
| 02:40.30 | ChipX86 | the old 4.x? |
| 02:40.35 | pagefault | I have no idea |
| 02:40.37 | pagefault | but does it matter? |
| 02:40.38 | file | where did I go that they used netscape... |
| 02:40.41 | file | ah yes, a friend uses it |
| 02:40.48 | KeyserLaptop | how do you know he's using it? |
| 02:40.52 | pagefault | he told me |
| 02:40.52 | purple_cow | pagefault: nothing wrong with using netscape 6+ |
| 02:41.04 | purple_cow | it's just mozilla |
| 02:41.05 | file | pagefault: is there a storm up your way? |
| 02:41.09 | KeyserLaptop | netscape 6+? isn't that like 4, with extra bloat? |
| 02:41.11 | pagefault | file: yep |
| 02:41.20 | pagefault | he doesn't have firefox |
| 02:41.20 | file | pagefault: apparently it's coming here... I think |
| 02:41.24 | pagefault | yet nearly everyone uses it |
| 02:41.28 | ChipX86 | KeyserLaptop: no, it's based off mozilla |
| 02:41.57 | KeyserLaptop | really? i tried 6 once, and there were toolbars flying everywhere. it frightened me. |
| 02:42.06 | laodamas | 1994. My first browser. *sniff* |
| 02:42.17 | KeyserLaptop | it wasn't so much toolbars, as toolboxes |
| 02:42.44 | file | oh wow, mosaic still works |
| 02:43.08 | file | er no... not really... |
| 02:44.22 | pagefault | blisters usck |
| 02:44.25 | pagefault | suck too |
| 02:45.23 | file | I think I've been watching The Weather Network for two hours |
| 02:45.56 | file | how interesting, one of the new people in the asterisk core group just messaged me and is introducing himself |
| 02:46.14 | pagefault | file he wants your source |
| 02:46.24 | file | ooh no not my source, it's not finished! |
| 02:46.41 | pagefault | I should get some old taglines out of bluewave |
| 02:46.47 | pagefault | I bet you people no idea what bluewave is/was |
| 02:49.47 | CIA-3 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r7135 10xchat-gnome/buildsystem.diff: remove broken references to nonexistant files in broken plugins, bump version |
| 02:50.54 | KeyserLaptop | /dev/speech is so cool |
| 02:51.27 | KeyserLaptop | on windows, there'd be a gui program for speech synthesis. and if you were lucky, they'd give you a DLL to call |
| 02:52.34 | darth_mall | bleh... not getting enough studying done |
| 02:52.57 | pagefault | dev/speech? |
| 02:53.00 | pagefault | where? |
| 02:54.29 | KeyserLaptop | my dev/speech is in / |
| 02:54.35 | KeyserLaptop | but that's not what you meant, i'll wager |
| 02:54.42 | file | KeyserLaptop: you have a sense of humor? how freaky |
| 02:55.01 | KeyserLaptop | file: not a very good one, so it often isn't recognized as such |
| 02:55.29 | file | ic |
| 02:55.58 | KeyserLaptop | in gentoo there's a speechd ebuild |
| 02:56.28 | purple_cow | hmm...tagline... |
| 02:56.37 | KeyserLaptop | but then i believe you need either festival or rsynth, as well |
| 03:00.45 | darth_mall | purple_cow: could call it, "you be the horse, and I'll be the buggy" |
| 03:00.59 | purple_cow | hmmmm |
| 03:06.24 | kergoth | purple_cow: hehe, cornelius is .. interesting |
| 03:06.37 | purple_cow | :) |
| 03:07.58 | scanline | yay, database works |
| 03:08.06 | scanline | fileManager.cache.findFiles(artist="Zero 7") |
| 03:08.08 | scanline | :) |
| 03:08.54 | scanline | sqlite is pretty spiffy |
| 03:09.46 | kergoth | yep |
| 03:10.00 | kergoth | i was pretty surprised at how quick it is, considering |
| 03:10.04 | scanline | indeed |
| 03:11.18 | scanline | though it's still a little pokey at synchronizing.. need to see if syscall overhead from all those tiny read()s is hurting, or if it's all the device's fault |
| 03:12.06 | scanline | er, nm |
| 03:12.17 | scanline | that isn't even a real file I'm read()'ing from, it's a buffer my protocol creates |
| 03:12.25 | scanline | so it's almost certainly just the device being slow |
| 03:14.18 | CIA-3 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r7136 10xchat-gnome/fe-gnome/ChangeLog: tagline! |
| 03:14.51 | hardwire | HOLA ! |
| 03:15.57 | kergoth | purple_cow: heh, the ubernet guys have a hold on promotions :\ |
| 03:16.01 | kergoth | purple_cow: i have such wonderful timing |
| 03:16.22 | laodamas | fyre only seems to be non-crashy when compiled against static lib paths |
| 03:16.25 | laodamas | grr |
| 03:16.33 | hardwire | file: shipped.. it leaves alaska tomorrow at 4:00pm |
| 03:16.38 | hardwire | or something like that |
| 03:16.42 | purple_cow | go osx! |
| 03:16.44 | hardwire | fed ex priority |
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| 03:22.20 | hardwire | file: poke |
| 03:22.34 | laodamas | the problem seems to lurk somewhere in the gtk immodules |
| 03:24.24 | purple_cow | mmm |
| 03:24.32 | purple_cow | just lookit all the studying that's going on here |
| 03:25.59 | scanline | yep |
| 03:27.41 | darth_mall | wow... Jason Priestly was on Quantum Leap... |
| 03:28.32 | purple_cow | ``We were using this in a file called `acme-volume-gstreamer.c'. Yes, we are loading 300 kb of data from an xml file at bootup time to control the volume of the computer.'' |
| 03:28.34 | purple_cow | yow! |
| 03:28.59 | purple_cow | http://flapjack.navi.cx/releases/xchat-gnome/testing/ |
| 03:30.51 | hardwire | ? |
| 03:30.56 | scanline | <File 0x00F10: song 'I Have Seen' on album 'Simple Things' by 'Zero 7'> |
| 03:30.56 | scanline | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:30.57 | scanline | woo |
| 03:36.56 | pagefault | bah |
| 03:37.00 | pagefault | stuff to dl |
| 03:41.45 | darth_mall | I miss lurgy |
| 03:43.17 | purple_cow | hrm |
| 03:43.34 | purple_cow | now what am i going to do? |
| 03:43.58 | CIA-3 | navi-misc: 03micah * r7137 10rio-karma/python/ (RioKarma/Filesystem.py RioKarma/__init__.py demo.py): |
| 03:43.58 | CIA-3 | navi-misc: Big refactoring to make Filesystem.py much cleaner. Files are now responsible |
| 03:43.58 | CIA-3 | navi-misc: for very little other than storing a file's ID and metadata. The Cache, now |
| 03:43.58 | CIA-3 | navi-misc: backed by sqlite, knows about Files but it is completely separate from the |
| 03:43.58 | CIA-3 | navi-misc: device itself. The new FileManager object replaces Filesystem and is responsible |
| 03:43.59 | CIA-3 | navi-misc: for coordinating the Cache and Files with a real device. |
| 03:44.03 | darth_mall | purple_cow: take my test for me? |
| 03:44.13 | darth_mall | I'll give you a pony |
| 03:44.20 | purple_cow | hmm |
| 03:44.24 | scanline | barbeque pony? |
| 03:44.31 | darth_mall | if you like |
| 03:45.07 | ChipX86 | grr |
| 03:45.22 | ChipX86 | this user is using Familiar and is upset that I won't support qpe-gaim on it |
| 03:45.33 | ChipX86 | even though the problem is that familiar installed gtk gaim over qpe-gaim |
| 03:46.32 | kergoth | ipkg wont let you install a package that overlaps another, you have to force it to with -force-overwrite |
| 03:47.21 | laodamas | [::ffff:127.0.0.1:50069] Connected |
| 03:47.21 | laodamas | Bus error |
| 03:48.32 | ChipX86 | heh, he installed the wrong package |
| 03:48.37 | ChipX86 | kergoth: well he did force it :) |
| 03:48.39 | scanline | hah |
| 03:48.43 | darth_mall | moo! |
| 03:48.44 | ChipX86 | So I then tried ipkg -force-overwrite install |
| 03:48.44 | ChipX86 | gaim-protocol-oscar, and everything went fine, but now |
| 03:48.44 | ChipX86 | when I try to launch gaim, I get: |
| 03:48.44 | ChipX86 | "Gaim was terminated due to signal code SIGSEGV." |
| 03:48.58 | ChipX86 | he was supposed to use libgaim-protocol-oscar |
| 03:49.00 | scanline | hehe |
| 03:49.13 | kergoth | ChipX86: so its his own damn fault then. dont waste your time |
| 03:49.19 | kergoth | heh |
| 03:49.25 | ChipX86 | yeah I'm barely paying attention to him really |
| 03:50.08 | darth_mall | ChipX86: good for you |
| 03:50.10 | darth_mall | you da man! |
| 03:52.54 | scanline | silly write lock... |
| 03:54.10 | CIA-3 | navi-misc: 03micah * r7138 10rio-karma/python/ (RioKarma/Filesystem.py demo.py): Prevent duplicate metadata loads for the same filename. Add code to demo.py to skip a file if a duplicate already exists on the device, by searching for its RID in the database. |
| 03:54.14 | scanline | RioKarma.Pearl.ProtocolError: NAK response |
| 03:54.15 | scanline | bleh |
| 03:54.17 | scanline | hell if I know why... |
| 03:54.30 | ChipX86 | :/ |
| 03:55.35 | scanline | it'd be nice if closing the TCP connection would reliably break out of a write lock |
| 03:55.50 | ChipX86 | a lot of things would be nice ;) |
| 03:59.15 | scanline | it's just that this whole write locking thing bugs me |
| 03:59.32 | scanline | it's like they didn't even try to support concurrency |
| 04:00.07 | kergoth | yay, family guy |
| 04:00.45 | pagefault | hmm |
| 04:01.49 | ChipX86 | amazon should deliver food |
| 04:02.18 | darth_mall | ChipX86: they do... in paper form |
| 04:02.54 | scanline | RioKarma.Pearl.ProtocolError: Unexpected status 0xC0041002 for request <RioKarma.Request.ReadFileChunk instance at 0x4083eeac> |
| 04:03.00 | scanline | hmm.. wish I knew what that meant |
| 04:03.44 | ChipX86 | oohh, gluten free beef sticks |
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| 04:03.56 | purple_cow | heh |
| 04:04.03 | purple_cow | most beef i know isn't made of wheat =/ |
| 04:04.07 | pagefault_ | hrm |
| 04:04.08 | pagefault_ | interesting |
| 04:04.23 | pagefault_ | doesn't like it when I type /server <something> though |
| 04:04.37 | purple_cow | just use the connect dialog =P |
| 04:04.46 | darth_mall | no! |
| 04:04.56 | darth_mall | the connect dialog is for chumps |
| 04:05.00 | ChipX86 | I used x-chat for the first time in a long time yesterday. I can't believe how simple the UI has become out of the box |
| 04:05.16 | darth_mall | ChipX86: the fe-gtk x-chat? |
| 04:05.19 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 04:05.21 | darth_mall | eep |
| 04:05.32 | ChipX86 | I should |
| 04:05.52 | purple_cow | it's improved a bit, but it's still pretty hideous IMO |
| 04:05.53 | pagefault_ | well this certainly looks better than the GTK xchat |
| 04:05.53 | CIA-3 | navi-misc: 03micah * r7139 10rio-karma/python/ (RioKarma/Filesystem.py RioKarma/Pearl.py demo.py): Avoid duplicate errors for failed file transfers, and make the dreaded NAK error slightly more informative |
| 04:06.02 | darth_mall | pagefault_: danke |
| 04:08.19 | laodamas | "He used a teenage colloquialism. Get the tear gas" |
| 04:08.29 | pagefault_ | ooh dcc throttling |
| 04:08.45 | darth_mall | hehe |
| 04:10.09 | purple_cow | why do i get the feeling that i'm going to end up cleaning the tub again tonight? =P |
| 04:12.04 | ChipX86 | I'll clean it in spirit |
| 04:13.50 | purple_cow | nevermind =D |
| 04:14.00 | CIA-3 | navi-misc: 03micah * r7140 10rio-karma/python/ (RioKarma/Pearl.py RioKarma/Request.py demo.py): Take a guess at what error 0xC0041002 is, and make demo.py test our ability to recover from failed file transfers |
| 04:14.02 | darth_mall | bleh... so tired |
| 04:14.15 | darth_mall | purple_cow: not really, just a cough |
| 04:14.40 | purple_cow | darth_mall: i reverted that :P |
| 04:16.54 | CIA-3 | navi-misc: 03micah * r7141 10rio-karma/python/RioKarma/Metadata.py: Enable RID calculation for non-music files too. Yay, I just copied pineapple_waves to my Rio then back successfully |
| 04:17.28 | purple_cow | ...so bored |
| 04:17.35 | pagefault_ | wee |
| 04:20.43 | pagefault_ | I did have some problems compiling the url thingy plugin though |
| 04:20.51 | pagefault_ | I had to change the location of my gnome include files |
| 04:22.27 | kergoth | "and remember! guns dont kill people, dangerous minorities do" |
| 04:22.41 | purple_cow | pagefault_: weird |
| 04:22.52 | ChipX86 | what credit card should I apply for? |
| 04:22.56 | ChipX86 | mine's expiring soon |
| 04:23.31 | laodamas | ChipX86: USAA if you qualify |
| 04:25.23 | laodamas | 2.9% APR |
| 04:25.25 | ChipX86 | USAA? |
| 04:27.12 | CIA-3 | navi-misc: 03micah * r7142 10rio-karma/python/RioKarma/Filesystem.py: Add a reactor hook to cleanly shut down everything if we don't get a chance to do so explicitly. This includes sync'ing and closing the cache, and releasing a write lock if we have one. |
| 04:27.23 | laodamas | A non profit bank / insurance company for current and former military officers and their families. |
| 04:35.03 | ChipX86 | welp, figured i'd pay off my credit card in full. There's no reason not to, really |
| 04:35.12 | ChipX86 | so that's $1500 less than I had a few mins aog |
| 04:36.46 | CIA-3 | navi-misc: 03micah * r7143 10rio-karma/python/RioKarma/ (Filesystem.py Pearl.py): When hastily releasing a write message, print a warning to stderr. Make a note that shutdown() will block if a write lock is currently held, so apps should try as best they can to release it before the last minute. |
| 04:36.57 | scanline | hmm |
| 04:36.59 | scanline | s/message/lock/ |
| 04:40.22 | kergoth | <bender> stupid anti-pimping laws! |
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| 04:43.04 | CIA-3 | navi-misc: 03micah * r7144 10rio-karma/python/RioKarma/Filesystem.py: Send a Request.Hangup when cleanly shutting down the FileManager, and remove the emergency shutdown trigger. We only need it once, and this prevents FileManager from leaking via the global eventTriggers list. |
| 04:43.46 | scanline | oh no, it's cwisty! |
| 04:43.52 | cwisty | hi |
| 04:45.06 | scanline | wow.. Josh was just a *tiny* bit late in giving us all that info |
| 04:46.31 | scanline | hmm neat. no physics 1140 homework this week |
| 04:46.40 | cwisty | woo hoo! |
| 04:46.49 | cwisty | gotta finish my wheatstone lab though . . . |
| 04:46.54 | scanline | :( |
| 04:47.01 | cwisty | you finish it today? |
| 04:47.04 | scanline | yep |
| 04:47.08 | cwisty | figures |
| 04:47.15 | scanline | well, it was due today for me |
| 04:47.31 | cwisty | eh it's due Wednesday but yeah |
| 04:47.35 | scanline | oh |
| 04:47.54 | cwisty | two days after the last lab |
| 04:47.58 | scanline | ah, neat |
| 04:49.01 | scanline | wow. Churchill Navigation is sounding like an awesome place to work |
| 04:52.21 | purple_cow | scanline: cool :) |
| 04:52.41 | scanline | mmmm |
| 04:53.01 | scanline | image manipulation.. a little embedded work with PICs maybe, accelerometers and rate gyros... |
| 04:57.11 | slimspace | what lecture did you get up to? |
| 04:57.20 | scanline | i've been poking around, but not really going in any order |
| 04:57.31 | scanline | and I really haven't done much studying yet.. been poking at my email and my RioKarma package |
| 04:57.45 | slimspace | ah...I've been finding the later lectures seem really devoid of much content |
| 04:57.57 | slimspace | at least content that I feel he could readily test us on |
| 04:57.58 | scanline | surprised? |
| 04:58.02 | darth_mall | oi... I'm gonna crash very soon |
| 04:58.03 | slimspace | not particularly |
| 04:58.32 | slimspace | I think at least 5 of the lectures were just on how to identify objects, responsibilities, roles, and whatnot |
| 05:00.24 | darth_mall | man these interaction diagrams are stupid |
| 05:00.44 | slimspace | yeah...can you imagine doing one of those for something more complicated than about 10 objects? |
| 05:01.01 | darth_mall | is there a difference between an interaction and a collaboration? |
| 05:01.20 | slimspace | well, interaction implies collaboration |
| 05:01.27 | slimspace | and vise versa |
| 05:01.36 | scanline | none of UML really seems designed for showing large systems in any detail.. just really high-level overviews of large systems, or showing details for a very small part |
| 05:01.38 | darth_mall | I mean... l see he's got this interaction diagram and a collaboration diagram |
| 05:02.04 | slimspace | wasn't the interaction one a diagram of changes in the system over time? |
| 05:02.24 | darth_mall | yeah |
| 05:02.24 | slimspace | and the collaboration one is more like the traditional UML diagrams we've been using |
| 05:02.29 | scanline | did he ever explain the scope of UML diagrams, or did he just lead us to assume they're universally applicable? |
| 05:02.30 | darth_mall | I guess the collaboration diagram doesn't show time |
| 05:02.48 | slimspace | scanline: if he did, I didn't pay attention |
| 05:02.48 | darth_mall | scanline: I think his idea of their scope is that they're omnipotent |
| 05:02.51 | purple_cow | there are 3 kinds there |
| 05:02.55 | scanline | darth_mall: hehe |
| 05:03.02 | purple_cow | sequence, collaboration and transformation |
| 05:03.12 | slimspace | ah, right. Sequence is the time one |
| 05:03.13 | darth_mall | if it can't be done with UML, it can't be done |
| 05:03.50 | darth_mall | god these things are scary |
| 05:04.18 | purple_cow | the sequence ones are actually pretty useful |
| 05:04.40 | scanline | has he done any patterns other than the ones in lecture 16? |
| 05:04.47 | slimspace | lecture 16? |
| 05:04.51 | scanline | er |
| 05:04.51 | scanline | 13 |
| 05:04.55 | darth_mall | double dispatch and blackboard |
| 05:04.59 | purple_cow | and "state" |
| 05:05.02 | darth_mall | erm... yeah |
| 05:05.06 | slimspace | those are all in 13, except DD |
| 05:05.07 | scanline | hehe |
| 05:05.07 | purple_cow | which, it turns out, is actually a pattern after all |
| 05:05.08 | darth_mall | which is just a state machine ={ |
| 05:05.13 | darth_mall | s/\{/P/ |
| 05:05.19 | purple_cow | darth_mall: actually, not quite |
| 05:06.01 | slimspace | darth_mall: state methods mean a class essentially becomes a different class (acts completely differently) based on its state |
| 05:06.02 | purple_cow | you have an abstract class that defines a bunch of virtual functions for commands |
| 05:06.13 | purple_cow | and then each state is implemented by a different class |
| 05:06.24 | purple_cow | and you have a controller that delegates to each of those classes depending on the state |
| 05:06.50 | purple_cow | which allows you to avoid big strings of switch statements |
| 05:07.32 | purple_cow | it is a state machine, just implemented in a oopey way |
| 05:08.06 | darth_mall | right |
| 05:08.29 | darth_mall | bleh |
| 05:08.34 | darth_mall | fuck it, I'm gonna fail, but I'm tired |
| 05:11.20 | darth_mall | anderson can bite my glorious golden ass, I'm going to bed |
| 05:11.26 | scanline | g'night |
| 05:12.20 | purple_cow | scanline: :) |
| 05:13.00 | scanline | he should just give us one homework assignment where we use as many patterns as possible and identify them, and another where we use as many antipatterns as possible ;) |
| 05:14.07 | purple_cow | hahaha |
| 05:14.29 | purple_cow | hehe, i like blamestorming |
| 05:14.43 | scanline | hah, ControlFreak describes pretty much every commercial program |
| 05:15.25 | ChipX86 | ah-ha! My fglrx module isn't compiled for this kernel. That explains why my screensavers suck now |
| 05:15.54 | scanline | ooh |
| 05:16.03 | purple_cow | god damnit, i'm going to spend all evening reading these now |
| 05:16.04 | scanline | I've been bitten by ExceptionFunnel in C code way too often |
| 05:18.58 | scanline | hmm |
| 05:19.02 | scanline | SpikeSolution is interesting |
| 05:19.12 | scanline | damnit.. they really should have just handed us this wiki instead of a class |
| 05:20.15 | KeyserLaptop | scanline: got a link? |
| 05:20.19 | scanline | http://c2.com/cgi-bin/wiki?SpikeSolution |
| 05:20.29 | scanline | I think I find myself doing that a lot when exploring a new problem |
| 05:20.37 | ChipX86 | yay |
| 05:20.42 | scanline | I'll write a couple really simple test programs that get the job done, but I know aren't extensible |
| 05:20.50 | scanline | then I use that to come up with an initial object model |
| 05:22.01 | purple_cow | yay, RollYourOwnDatabase is on there |
| 05:22.23 | scanline | :) |
| 05:23.08 | scanline | purple_cow: libkarma suffered from that one :P |
| 05:23.09 | purple_cow | scanline: RubeGoldbergMachine |
| 05:23.33 | scanline | purple_cow: yay, that's the one |
| 05:23.33 | purple_cow | Forces: |
| 05:23.33 | purple_cow | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:23.37 | scanline | :) |
| 05:23.50 | scanline | that happens way too often at spacegrant |
| 05:24.03 | scanline | especially when "working" is the management's assumption not the tested truth |
| 05:25.19 | KeyserLaptop | lol @ AbstractionInversion |
| 05:25.27 | KeyserLaptop | i've seen that one a few times |
| 05:25.28 | scanline | :) |
| 05:25.46 | scanline | http://www.rgmc.com/html/pencil_sharpener.htm |
| 05:26.38 | scanline | oooh |
| 05:26.40 | scanline | MagicContainer |
| 05:27.00 | ChipX86 | oohh, Solarwinds is a neat screensaver |
| 05:27.41 | ChipX86 | sexy |
| 05:29.02 | scanline | http://c2.com/cgi-bin/wiki?TakeItOrLeaveIt |
| 05:29.05 | scanline | I like that one too |
| 05:31.01 | scanline | "Writing a troff macro package is hard! No one, except maybe BrianKernighan, knows how many backslashes to put in a macro; troff programmers use trial and erroruntil they get it right, and even so they can can burned when macros are used in diversions or other macros." |
| 05:31.09 | scanline | hah. from CustomizationViaProgramming |
| 05:35.51 | KeyserLaptop | GroundHogDayProject |
| 05:36.32 | scanline | haha |
| 05:36.37 | scanline | yep.. been there |
| 05:36.47 | purple_cow | hmm, with a name like bestlenderz4u.com, who could resist? |
| 05:36.48 | scanline | actually, still there |
| 05:37.08 | scanline | seems like the last month or so at spacegrant has been following GroundHogDayProject |
| 05:37.37 | KeyserLaptop | oh my god... NetNegativeProducingProgrammer |
| 05:37.52 | KeyserLaptop | i knew several of them at previous jobs |
| 05:37.58 | ChipX86 | ooh, a screensaver called FuzzyFlakes |
| 05:38.05 | KeyserLaptop | one only got fired after threatening to blow up the building |
| 05:38.36 | scanline | wow |
| 05:38.55 | scanline | hah, AntiExperience |
| 05:39.07 | scanline | haven't run into one of those yet |
| 05:39.15 | scanline | purple_cow: screenshot? |
| 05:45.00 | scanline | "All engineers are basically the same. If someone has the words OO Design or C++ on his resume, then it must be there for a good reason. After all, these people have gone to college for this stuff, haven't they?" |
| 05:45.36 | purple_cow | hahahahahahaha |
| 05:46.01 | scanline | PlugCompatibleInterchangeableEngineers :) |
| 05:48.46 | ChipX86 | yayayay |
| 05:48.56 | ChipX86 | Jamie wants to spend her spring break here |
| 05:49.17 | purple_cow | go ChipX86! |
| 05:49.27 | scanline | :) |
| 05:49.42 | ChipX86 | I asked if she still wanted to visit for spring break, because she mentioned the possibility once. She said, "I'd really like to" |
| 05:52.41 | kergoth | yay |
| 05:52.46 | scanline | http://c2.com/cgi-bin/wiki?WizardsAreDangerous |
| 05:53.00 | scanline | 'Most of his code is written by Borland and Oracle. It worries me when I keep hearing the phrase "such-and-such have a hand-cranked solution". Translation: "they worked out how to do it properly".' |
| 05:53.09 | scanline | that sounds way too much like your average ASP.NET programmer these days |
| 05:53.24 | ChipX86 | heh |
| 05:54.08 | ChipX86 | I'm going to hvae to read through that in a few.. but first, I must write this wizard! |
| 05:54.35 | scanline | hopefully it's not a programming wizard ;) |
| 05:54.38 | ChipX86 | nope |
| 05:54.41 | ChipX86 | New VM wizard |
| 05:54.45 | scanline | yay, VM |
| 05:54.48 | ChipX86 | unless you want to make your VM by hand |
| 05:55.00 | ChipX86 | our current framework is a hack job |
| 05:55.14 | ChipX86 | like most of Joey's work... |
| 05:55.23 | ChipX86 | so I'm starting the huge task of moving it to my maintainable framework |
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| 06:06.54 | ChipX86 | Victoria's Secret uses the world "revolutionary" a lot when describing their bras |
| 06:07.13 | SecretMethod70 | and why are you looking so much at Victoria's Secret bras? |
| 06:07.15 | SecretMethod70 | ;) |
| 06:07.18 | ChipX86 | it was on a commercial |
| 06:07.22 | ChipX86 | Hey! Secret is back |
| 06:07.35 | SecretMethod70 | hehe, sorry, been working on school stuff (and still am :() |
| 06:07.40 | ChipX86 | np |
| 06:07.41 | ChipX86 | how goes? |
| 06:07.51 | SecretMethod70 | not bad, working on a 20 page paper |
| 06:07.55 | ChipX86 | eep |
| 06:08.19 | SecretMethod70 | it's not terrible, I've just got to get myself to stop procrastinating and DO IT |
| 06:08.43 | SecretMethod70 | I'm too busy wasting time downloading from my newfound cache of Final Fantasy and CAstlevania albums :P |
| 06:08.52 | ChipX86 | heh |
| 06:09.45 | SecretMethod70 | there are some really awesome albums out there (and some really terribly bad ones as well) |
| 06:09.55 | SecretMethod70 | such as the early 90's Castlevania rap album...wow that's bad |
| 06:13.01 | ChipX86 | haha |
| 06:13.15 | ChipX86 | what to do for dinner... |
| 06:13.28 | ChipX86 | I spent $3000 on bills today, so I probably shouldn't order anything |
| 06:13.37 | kergoth | heh, i hate that |
| 06:13.55 | ChipX86 | yeah. |
| 06:14.24 | ChipX86 | oh well |
| 06:14.29 | ChipX86 | that's life |
| 06:15.28 | kergoth | speaking of which, i need to do that |
| 06:17.21 | purple_cow | rofl |
| 06:17.26 | purple_cow | `` "We are so totally fucked," Hansel admitted to Gretel, looking at the tall dark trees in the pathless forest they were in.'' |
| 06:17.58 | kergoth | haha |
| 06:18.10 | KeyserSoze | what's that from? |
| 06:18.22 | purple_cow | KeyserSoze: WizardsAreDangerous on c2 |
| 06:21.55 | KeyserSoze | i like this one: http://c2.com/cgi-bin/wiki?LazinessImpatienceHubris |
| 06:23.10 | KeyserSoze | You're not just thinking about how to be lazy right now, but about how to continue being lazy from now on through the foreseeable future |
| 06:24.04 | KeyserSoze | the kind of guy who would edit text files by hand for hours and hours, every week, for months on end |
| 06:24.12 | KeyserSoze | (instead of writing a script) |
| 06:25.39 | kergoth | weird. |
| 06:28.07 | lurgy | yay for girl scout cookies |
| 06:28.12 | ChipX86 | ooh |
| 06:28.20 | lurgy | made from at least 60% all natural recycled girl scouts |
| 06:28.25 | ChipX86 | :) |
| 06:29.22 | ChipX86 | AOL Opening Up AIM Community to Third Parties |
| 06:29.36 | lurgy | yay |
| 06:29.41 | scanline | shocking! |
| 06:29.54 | ChipX86 | both gaim and *wow* Adium was mentioned in that |
| 06:29.54 | ChipX86 | neat |
| 06:29.56 | kergoth | whee, tagging 7,047 files |
| 06:30.00 | kergoth | thisll take a while |
| 06:30.04 | kergoth | easytag didnt crash at least |
| 06:35.06 | KeyserSoze | Emperors New Clothes is a funny one, too |
| 06:37.28 | scanline | hah, yeah |
| 06:37.37 | KeyserSoze | i don't know if they don't want to reveal their ignorance by asking questions, or what |
| 06:38.16 | scanline | ah, interesting |
| 06:38.33 | scanline | so when you have a read lock on the rio, it gives you a little "WAIT: PC is connected" thingy if you try to enter the 'Organize' menu |
| 06:39.09 | KeyserSoze | i was in a room once with like 10 people, and there was this little picture of a triangle on the face of the earth, and it used a spherical earth model |
| 06:39.09 | ChipX86 | http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/050225/480/wx10402251753 |
| 06:39.09 | ChipX86 | the buffalo is anatomically correct |
| 06:39.42 | purple_cow | heh |
| 06:39.42 | scanline | mmmmyep |
| 06:40.07 | KeyserSoze | and, the triangle had two right angles. but the sides opposite the right angles were allegedly of any equal arbitrary length |
| 06:40.51 | KeyserSoze | so, like 10 people didn't bother looking at the picture because they didn't understand spherical geometry, but they all *acted* like they were reviewing the document |
| 06:42.55 | CIA-3 | navi-misc: 03micah * r7145 10rio-karma/python/ (4 files in 2 dirs): |
| 06:42.56 | CIA-3 | navi-misc: Use the device's free space, in bytes, as a stamp to track the validity of our |
| 06:42.56 | CIA-3 | navi-misc: cache. Now the cache is re-synchronized properly when files are deleted or |
| 06:42.56 | CIA-3 | navi-misc: modified externally. This isn't foolproof, but it's probably the best we can do |
| 06:42.56 | CIA-3 | navi-misc: with the Rio's protocol. |
| 06:43.22 | ChipX86 | what you should do is get the md5sum of every file every time you do any transfer |
| 06:43.34 | scanline | heh |
| 06:43.52 | scanline | the cache only tracks metadata, so that wouldn't matter :P |
| 06:45.39 | purple_cow | hahaha |
| 06:45.56 | purple_cow | eugenia got scolded for her "slashdot trigger finger" |
| 06:46.38 | scanline | oooooooooooh |
| 06:46.43 | scanline | I take that back |
| 06:47.00 | scanline | there is in fact a field in GetDeviceSettings that seems to increment every time a change is made to the disk |
| 06:47.44 | purple_cow | mmmm banana |
| 06:48.32 | kergoth | yay for downloading a speedstep fix for my laptop in xp so it stops getting stuck at 1.2GHz |
| 06:55.30 | scanline | hmm |
| 06:55.43 | scanline | this new stamp I'm using seems to change any time the rio is rebooted |
| 06:55.59 | scanline | suppose that's not a bad feature, since things might have changed or become corrupted in that time |
| 06:57.43 | lurgy | Taylor series! |
| 06:59.18 | hardwire | uirgh |
| 06:59.24 | hardwire | why is alpha output not working on blender? |
| 06:59.27 | hardwire | RGBA TGA right? |
| 06:59.34 | scanline | or PNG |
| 07:00.27 | hardwire | heh |
| 07:00.30 | hardwire | I had to delete world |
| 07:00.33 | hardwire | then recreate it |
| 07:02.13 | purple_cow | aha |
| 07:02.18 | purple_cow | there's this silly Math namespace |
| 07:02.40 | scanline | suspiciously like python's silly math namespace! |
| 07:02.47 | purple_cow | egads |
| 07:02.58 | purple_cow | i ran 100M iterations of the de jong equation in both C and C# |
| 07:03.00 | purple_cow | guess which was faster |
| 07:03.10 | scanline | C? |
| 07:03.14 | purple_cow | nope |
| 07:03.16 | scanline | wow |
| 07:03.18 | scanline | how much faster? |
| 07:03.46 | purple_cow | about 2.5s |
| 07:03.48 | hardwire | http://bogomip.com/~hardwire/SatMounting-001.png |
| 07:03.51 | scanline | in percent? |
| 07:04.42 | purple_cow | about 8% |
| 07:04.47 | scanline | sweet |
| 07:05.05 | purple_cow | i don't know what kind of overhead mono has with function calls, etc |
| 07:05.25 | purple_cow | but just the raw tight loop is fast enough for me :) |
| 07:05.35 | CIA-3 | navi-misc: 03micah * r7146 10rio-karma/python/ (4 files in 2 dirs): Found a value that looks like it was actually intended to be a device modification stamp, using it now instead of the amount of free space. Fixed a big handful of concurrency problems with device locking |
| 07:05.38 | scanline | indeed |
| 07:10.16 | scanline | ooh |
| 07:10.51 | scanline | this has much hacking application... |
| 07:11.12 | scanline | :) |
| 07:11.24 | purple_cow | hmm, came out about the same |
| 07:11.39 | scanline | nice. that's what I'd expect if they're both generating good code |
| 07:11.46 | scanline | something that simple is probably hard to optimize much more |
| 07:12.08 | purple_cow | scanline: i mean the same as unoptimized |
| 07:12.25 | scanline | ah |
| 07:12.38 | purple_cow | march=pentium4 doesn't shave off anything |
| 07:13.29 | scanline | oh, weird |
| 07:13.33 | scanline | playlists all have a file ID of zero |
| 07:14.15 | scanline | er, nm.. was looking at the wrong field |
| 07:14.23 | scanline | they do have a fid, but they don't have a length |
| 07:14.33 | scanline | and no content on disk.. the playlist itself is stored in the metadata block |
| 07:14.34 | scanline | screwy |
| 07:14.51 | purple_cow | looks like whatever i do, the mono one is a little faster than C |
| 07:14.51 | scanline | and yay, it's some kind of crazy binary format that nobody's reverse engineered yet |
| 07:15.00 | scanline | >:) |
| 07:15.01 | ChipX86 | huh |
| 07:15.04 | ChipX86 | can't be *that* hard |
| 07:15.15 | scanline | I suspect it's just a list of FIDs |
| 07:15.20 | scanline | but it must have some special doodads in there |
| 07:15.29 | scanline | there's a playlist for "All Music", and it's pretty tine |
| 07:15.30 | scanline | er, tiny |
| 07:15.39 | scanline | so it must have some way of making queries against the rest of the music database |
| 07:17.22 | scanline | I know I've written at least two of them... |
| 07:17.32 | kergoth | "Oh, Peter. I care about the size of your penis as much as you care about the size of my breasts." "OH MY GOD! *runs away*" |
| 07:17.44 | KeyserSoze | lol |
| 07:17.47 | ChipX86 | haha |
| 07:17.58 | scanline | hehe |
| 07:18.09 | ChipX86 | that's one of the worst things a girl can say to a guy ;) |
| 07:18.22 | scanline | micah@yoshi ~/navi-misc $ grep -i hexdump `find -name "*.py"` |
| 07:18.22 | scanline | ./pybzengine/BZEngine/Util.py:def hexDump(src, dest, bytesPerLine=16, wordSize=2): |
| 07:18.22 | scanline | ./python/xproxy.py: def hexdump(self, s): |
| 07:18.23 | scanline | ./python/xproxy.py: print "%10s: %s" % (self.label, self.hexdump(packet)) |
| 07:18.27 | scanline | yep.. written two fo them it looks like |
| 07:20.32 | purple_cow | hehehehe |
| 07:20.41 | scanline | ooh, interesting |
| 07:20.42 | purple_cow | that was for protocol debugging, no? |
| 07:21.15 | scanline | probably |
| 07:21.17 | scanline | aha |
| 07:21.47 | scanline | http://navi.cx/~micah/playlist-hexdump |
| 07:22.07 | scanline | :) |
| 07:22.28 | scanline | I'm so glad that I get to reverse engineer something more fun than error codes for this thing |
| 07:22.39 | purple_cow | mmm, hullabaloo |
| 07:22.54 | scanline | yep. that's the only list I had so far... just both discs together |
| 07:23.10 | scanline | I suppose this sync utility I have in mind should be able to sync .m3u files to and from playlists |
| 07:23.28 | scanline | I haven't seen any playlist support in the open source tools |
| 07:23.42 | purple_cow | hehe |
| 07:23.44 | purple_cow | crazy bastard :) |
| 07:23.47 | scanline | >:) |
| 07:25.16 | scanline | aww.. karmalib seems to have some support for them |
| 07:25.22 | scanline | but it's definitely not documented |
| 07:26.19 | scanline | hmm |
| 07:26.30 | scanline | does java define a fixed order in which functions get evaluated when they're in argument lists? |
| 07:26.34 | ChipX86 | oh yeah, there's a plug-in port next to the earphones that nobody has created any devices for. You should find out what you can do there ;) |
| 07:26.38 | ChipX86 | it was intended for a remote control |
| 07:26.39 | scanline | PlaylistEntry(bb.getInt(), (hasGenerations ? bb.getInt() : 0) ) |
| 07:26.44 | scanline | this sort of thing seems dangerous |
| 07:26.50 | scanline | ChipX86: :) |
| 07:28.16 | scanline | bleh |
| 07:28.24 | scanline | I need a program that lets me hilight a hex dump with different colors |
| 07:28.27 | ChipX86 | ? |
| 07:28.40 | ChipX86 | oh, I had a program that did that |
| 07:28.41 | ChipX86 | hasci I think |
| 07:28.47 | ChipX86 | oh nm |
| 07:28.57 | scanline | I recognize parts of this dump as file IDs |
| 07:29.03 | scanline | and I have some hints about the rest from karmalib |
| 07:29.32 | scanline | hmm |
| 07:29.41 | scanline | oowriter automatically detected that the stuff I pasted was preformatted text |
| 07:29.42 | scanline | that's cool |
| 07:29.57 | scanline | either that or firefox gave it some hints.. which is even cooler |
| 07:31.20 | ChipX86 | iirc, it's the second one |
| 07:31.53 | kergoth | hrm |
| 07:32.20 | kergoth | mounting the iriver's vfat filesystem with iocharset=utf8 seems to be throwing off my ability to rsync, due to caps sensitivity |
| 07:32.30 | kergoth | its transferring files over again that dont need to be |
| 07:32.31 | kergoth | heh |
| 07:32.41 | kergoth | unless the player screwed with the modification dates, but that woulnd tmake much sense |
| 07:32.50 | hardwire | http://bogomip.com/~hardwire/SatMounting-002.png |
| 07:32.52 | hardwire | there |
| 07:32.52 | hardwire | yay |
| 07:32.55 | hardwire | complete now |
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| 07:34.37 | purple_cow | hmm |
| 07:34.47 | rioter | anyone coming to australia for linux.conf.au? |
| 07:34.53 | purple_cow | do i watch another episode or go to bed? |
| 07:39.15 | scanline | oh.. duh... |
| 07:39.31 | scanline | the device has already done some backslash-style encoding on this string |
| 07:39.59 | cwisty | gr damn thinker! |
| 07:40.07 | scanline | :( |
| 07:40.07 | kergoth | yay futurama |
| 07:40.14 | kergoth | i want a car that has a toaster for poptarts too :( |
| 07:40.37 | nullpuppy | me too! |
| 07:41.12 | ChipX86 | "Miss Congeniality 2: Armed and Fabulous" |
| 07:41.13 | purple_cow | me too! |
| 07:44.58 | scanline | nah ;) |
| 07:45.08 | cwisty | haha |
| 07:45.20 | cwisty | I just now remebered that oh yeah Monday means time sheet day for space grant |
| 07:45.29 | cwisty | couldn't have rememberd 45 minutes ago |
| 07:45.45 | scanline | oops, time sheet... |
| 07:45.49 | cwisty | yeah |
| 07:45.49 | purple_cow | hahaha |
| 07:45.51 | scanline | oh well, I didn't work much last week |
| 07:45.53 | cwisty | you too:? |
| 07:45.57 | scanline | yeah |
| 07:46.02 | purple_cow | there are some times where the older technology is a good thing ;) |
| 07:46.13 | cwisty | I don't think you or I will be the only ones |
| 07:46.16 | scanline | I didn't get the email reminders. weird |
| 07:46.23 | cwisty | yeah |
| 07:46.29 | cwisty | thinker was down this week |
| 07:46.32 | scanline | ah |
| 07:46.38 | cwisty | nukeing the auto reminder system |
| 07:46.40 | scanline | it's odd, but the email reminders actually seemed to do their job ;) |
| 07:47.08 | cwisty | *sigh* |
| 07:48.15 | cwisty | oh well, brain's mush and I'm not getting a thing done |
| 07:48.40 | scanline | g'night cwisty |
| 07:48.52 | cwisty | night micah micah |
| 07:48.55 | ChipX86 | yay, ThunderCougarFalconBird |
| 07:48.58 | cwisty | and everyone else |
| 07:49.08 | ChipX86 | g'night cwisty |
| 07:49.23 | purple_cow | 'night |
| 07:50.36 | *** part/#tacobeam cwisty (~default@c-24-8-37-83.client.comcast.net) |
| 07:54.56 | ChipX86 | awwww poor Zoidberg |
| 07:55.24 | ChipX86 | "Oh so it's just coincidence that Zoidberg here is desperately poor and miserably lonely? Please.." "For your information, it's because he's hideous." |
| 07:57.15 | kergoth | hehe |
| 07:58.37 | ChipX86 | the look on Zoidberg's face was so sad |
| 08:00.08 | purple_cow | yay zoidberg |
| 08:00.20 | ChipX86 | March |
| 08:00.36 | purple_cow | ok, time for bed i think |
| 08:01.54 | scanline | hmmmm |
| 08:01.59 | scanline | 0000: FF020000 80010000 43F71F42 90010000 ........C..B.... |
| 08:01.59 | scanline | 0010: 43F71F42 A0010000 43F71F42 B0010000 C..B....C..B.... |
| 08:02.07 | scanline | alternating file IDs and file ID timestamps |
| 08:02.11 | scanline | except for that first number |
| 08:02.23 | scanline | seems to always be the same. might as well call it magic for now |
| 08:03.34 | hardwire | taco |
| 08:11.41 | scanline | cool. Should have an interview with Churchill Navigation in a couple weeks once one of them gets back in town |
| 08:20.17 | ChipX86 | http://www.nature.com/news/2005/050228/full/050228-1.html |
| 08:29.33 | *** part/#tacobeam JeffM2501 (~jeffm@Patlabor221.active.supporter.pdpc) |
| 08:42.51 | ChipX86 | hmm, I need some kind of chip dip |
| 08:49.07 | CIA-3 | navi-misc: 03micah * r7147 10rio-karma/python/ (5 files in 2 dirs): |
| 08:49.07 | CIA-3 | navi-misc: Implement playlists. The property lists and property encoding/decoding was |
| 08:49.07 | CIA-3 | navi-misc: separated out into a new Property module, and playlists were added as another |
| 08:49.07 | CIA-3 | navi-misc: data type that gets encoded/decoded. The python representation of a playlist is |
| 08:49.07 | CIA-3 | navi-misc: a list of partial details dictionaries. These dictionaries, consisting of just |
| 08:49.07 | CIA-3 | navi-misc: fid and fid_generation, can be passed to the cache's findFiles() to validate |
| 08:49.09 | CIA-3 | navi-misc: them and retrieve File instances. |
| 08:56.52 | scanline | er |
| 08:56.53 | CIA-3 | navi-misc: 03micah * r7148 10rio-karma/python/ (RioKarma/Filesystem.py demo.py): |
| 08:56.53 | CIA-3 | navi-misc: Implement playlists. The property lists and property encoding/decoding was |
| 08:56.53 | CIA-3 | navi-misc: separated out into a new Property module, and playlists were added as another |
| 08:56.53 | CIA-3 | navi-misc: data type that gets encoded/decoded. The python representation of a playlist is |
| 08:56.53 | CIA-3 | navi-misc: a list of partial details dictionaries. These dictionaries, consisting of just |
| 08:56.53 | CIA-3 | navi-misc: fid and fid_generation, can be passed to the cache's findFiles() to validate |
| 08:56.55 | scanline | damnit |
| 08:56.55 | CIA-3 | navi-misc: them and retrieve File instances. |
| 09:05.19 | ChipX86 | ? |
| 09:09.07 | scanline | hit uparrow-enter and committed accidentally |
| 09:09.27 | scanline | wasn't a bad time to commit, but that was the same log |
| 09:43.34 | scanline | hmmmmmmmmm |
| 09:43.39 | scanline | playlists can contain other playlists.... |
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| 10:18.56 | CIA-3 | navi-misc: 03micah * r7149 10rio-karma/python/ (4 files in 2 dirs): |
| 10:18.56 | CIA-3 | navi-misc: So it turns out playlists can be nested arbitrarily- like directories but even |
| 10:18.56 | CIA-3 | navi-misc: better, since they can form any directed graph. Redesigned FileManager's |
| 10:18.56 | CIA-3 | navi-misc: playlist support with this in mind, and implemented an example that creates a |
| 10:18.57 | CIA-3 | navi-misc: small playlist hierarchy |
| 10:24.01 | scanline | hmm |
| 10:24.24 | scanline | apparently the rio also gets cranky while trying to release a write lock after you've modified a playlist that it was displaying |
| 10:26.04 | rioter | you writing new firmware for your rio? |
| 10:26.13 | scanline | not new firmware, new client software |
| 10:26.17 | rioter | ah ok |
| 10:44.39 | scanline | bleh |
| 11:03.52 | file | anybody concious? |
| 11:37.20 | *** join/#tacobeam orchid (orchid@orchid.user) |
| 13:06.09 | rioter | why? |
| 13:06.48 | file | just early, but then again... you're in your funky location |
| 13:07.06 | rioter | just a bit past midnight here |
| 13:07.10 | rioter | so its not to bad |
| 13:07.13 | file | ah |
| 13:08.11 | rioter | what time is it over there? |
| 13:08.16 | file | 9:08AM |
| 13:08.34 | rioter | ouch, i gotta wake up at that time |
| 13:08.42 | file | haha |
| 13:09.14 | rioter | gotta head to uni for 1 lecture that goes for an hour, really not happy |
| 13:09.43 | rioter | not even the rioter-clone deserves a java lecture |
| 13:10.06 | file | eek |
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| 15:45.10 | purple_cow | how many people are going to take some if i make coffee? |
| 15:46.09 | scanline | blah.. I need a copy of IDA |
| 15:46.18 | purple_cow | IDA? |
| 15:46.25 | scanline | really powerful interactive disassembler |
| 15:46.36 | darth_mall | oooh scanline's up |
| 15:48.00 | file | eek people |
| 15:48.19 | darth_mall | who's excited about this test? |
| 15:48.32 | scanline | I'm apathetic about it, does that count? |
| 15:50.15 | darth_mall | you should be excited |
| 15:50.35 | darth_mall | or, you could be mad as hell, and you're not gonna take it anymore |
| 15:50.39 | darth_mall | that would also be acceptable |
| 15:51.12 | scanline | ok |
| 15:58.31 | scanline | wow.. |
| 15:58.43 | scanline | the ida pro demo runs really slow in wine |
| 16:03.25 | purple_cow | time for school |
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| 16:49.32 | kergoth | bleh |
| 17:08.47 | pagefault | blah |
| 17:09.05 | file64 | kergoth, CP may have some potential hardware... that would work for your idea |
| 17:15.54 | pagefault | nothing is on tv |
| 17:16.04 | file64 | the people at abptech are crazy |
| 17:16.21 | file64 | so hardwire ordered me a VoIP phone, fine and dandy |
| 17:16.33 | file64 | their system screwed up and couldn't do Canadian shipping, but it was processed anyway |
| 17:16.57 | file64 | okay - then they think they sent the wrong phone, so they're sending the right one out too |
| 17:16.59 | file64 | they're nuts |
| 17:17.53 | kergoth | if they cant do canadian shipping, how are they managing that? |
| 17:17.59 | file64 | no clue |
| 17:18.16 | kergoth | iinteresting |
| 17:19.25 | file64 | the lady said sending me the wrong thing was just a "small problem" |
| 17:19.27 | file64 | I found that amusing |
| 17:19.55 | kergoth | hehe |
| 17:20.27 | kergoth | "We have a large problem! I accidently shipped you a monkey!" |
| 17:20.55 | file64 | haha |
| 17:27.56 | pagefault | we have no bananas |
| 17:28.22 | file64 | :( |
| 17:28.26 | file64 | did someone make banana bread? |
| 17:28.37 | pagefault | I don't think so |
| 17:29.13 | pagefault | still snowing |
| 17:29.37 | file64 | it calmed down here a lot |
| 17:29.59 | file64 | I need to tell my teachers I may not be there Monday after March break |
| 17:33.38 | pagefault | another 10cm today |
| 17:33.46 | pagefault | or so they say |
| 17:37.54 | file64 | heavy snowfall warning and blizzard warning continues |
| 17:40.10 | pagefault | snow sux |
| 17:42.46 | purple_cow | well that was about as much fun as stabbing myself in the eye |
| 17:43.52 | purple_cow | hey cool, the acm finally decided to tell us about the SRC finals |
| 17:48.30 | purple_cow | time to go to my next class, i think |
| 18:05.46 | darth_mall | I guess that could have been worse |
| 18:10.07 | file | darth_mall: it could have been in something you've never taken before? |
| 18:11.02 | darth_mall | file: heh, I've paid so little attention in that class that I just haven't taken it before ^^ |
| 18:11.07 | file | hehe |
| 18:11.10 | file | what class if I dare inquire? |
| 18:11.20 | darth_mall | Object Oriented Analysis & Design |
| 18:11.36 | file | sounds fancy |
| 18:11.48 | darth_mall | it'd be cool if we had a good teacher |
| 18:14.17 | darth_mall | ~yow |
| 18:15.48 | purple_cow | hurray for class being cancelled |
| 18:16.58 | purple_cow | hrm, this is strange |
| 18:17.06 | purple_cow | the only thing i can think of right now is "quizblorg" |
| 18:17.22 | darth_mall | purple_cow: how'd you do? |
| 18:17.33 | purple_cow | darth_mall: pretty well, i think |
| 18:17.54 | purple_cow | some of my definitions were a little halfassed, but in general i knew everything |
| 18:18.14 | scanline | plok |
| 18:19.05 | purple_cow | darth_mall: navigation tree bug waiting for ya |
| 18:19.13 | darth_mall | yay =\ |
| 18:19.26 | scanline | I had to guess here and there, but I think I did alright. The only thing I really had to complete BS was the second to last question |
| 18:19.37 | purple_cow | scanline: heh, yep :) |
| 18:19.37 | darth_mall | which one was that? |
| 18:19.45 | darth_mall | was that the phases of RDD? |
| 18:19.49 | scanline | yeah |
| 18:19.56 | darth_mall | heh, I had no idea what that was |
| 18:20.00 | purple_cow | darth_mall: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=168887 |
| 18:20.11 | darth_mall | what were the 5 things you guys found in the use case? |
| 18:20.49 | scanline | let's see.. they had specific names in there for the actors, they had a lot of UI details exposed, that thing about the invalid address should have been an extension... |
| 18:20.52 | purple_cow | use of a name instead of an actor, no separation into traceable steps, "checks whether", overspecification of the interface and one other thing |
| 18:20.57 | purple_cow | ah yes, the extension |
| 18:22.17 | darth_mall | dammit... I thought that all that "he clicks x" stuff was silly, but I couldn't remember if that was actually bad or not |
| 18:23.08 | file | yay Tori Amos |
| 18:24.00 | darth_mall | bleh... didn't like that test |
| 18:25.15 | purple_cow | darth_mall: if it's graded as easily as he just did my homework 2, then i'm sure we'll all be fine :) |
| 18:25.36 | darth_mall | I'm gonna need a lot of partial credit on that one to not suck |
| 18:26.09 | darth_mall | boo... he still hasn't graded mine |
| 18:26.18 | darth_mall | purple_cow: how'd you get your grade? on the moodle? |
| 18:26.32 | purple_cow | darth_mall: yeah, got an email that he had commented |
| 18:26.43 | purple_cow | sweet, luis pimped xchat-gnome on p.g.o :) |
| 18:28.01 | purple_cow | and CIA too :) |
| 18:28.45 | scanline | oh boy, more CIA users... |
| 18:29.08 | purple_cow | heh |
| 18:29.12 | scanline | ;) |
| 18:29.16 | scanline | yay luis |
| 18:30.47 | CIA-3 | *purr* |
| 18:33.49 | darth_mall | yay Fighter |
| 18:36.49 | purple_cow | hmm....what to watch.... |
| 18:37.53 | CIA-3 | navi-misc: 03micah * r7150 10rio-karma/ (5 files in 3 dirs): Several minor playlist-related cleanups, add a tiny bit of reverse engineering notes |
| 18:39.02 | darth_mall | dammit... I'm out of water... |
| 18:40.35 | darth_mall | booooooooooooooooooooooooooooored |
| 18:40.47 | pagefault | water |
| 18:40.52 | pagefault | you need caffeinated water |
| 18:40.57 | darth_mall | no, I really don't |
| 18:41.00 | purple_cow | 'cuz it's been so long |
| 18:41.31 | purple_cow | hmm |
| 18:47.57 | CIA-3 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r7151 10xchat-gnome/fe-gnome/ (irc-network-editor.c irc-network.c): fix a crasher when a network doesn't have a known encoding and a warning when there's no password |
| 18:49.42 | darth_mall | crap, this class needs to end sooner |
| 18:52.18 | lurgy | yay for xchat-gnome being mentioned prominently on p.g.o |
| 18:52.53 | scanline | yay for flapjack being fairly reliable lately |
| 18:53.35 | lurgy | yay in general |
| 18:53.41 | scanline | yay |
| 18:53.53 | slimspace | yay for having an ADCS algorithm to determine spin rate |
| 18:54.03 | purple_cow | lurgy: it's not out yet |
| 18:54.08 | purple_cow | lurgy: that's a release candidate |
| 18:54.11 | lurgy | aw |
| 18:54.18 | lurgy | good to know |
| 18:54.18 | scanline | yay for sqlite |
| 18:54.26 | scanline | it's so fast and simple |
| 18:54.35 | scanline | and so easy to stay portable with bigger databases |
| 18:54.47 | lurgy | so i may as well mention this now since i haven't had time to try a mockup |
| 18:55.04 | lurgy | about the XText stuff |
| 18:55.23 | purple_cow | lurgy: there's another channel which might make more sense to have that discussion in ;) |
| 18:55.29 | lurgy | hehe, ok |
| 18:55.52 | scanline | actually.. might as well cache all metadata, not just RIDs |
| 18:56.03 | scanline | then I could run the same sort of queries against navi that I could run on the rio :) |
| 19:21.41 | purple_cow | hmm, lunch |
| 19:21.43 | CIA-3 | zsnes: 03pagefault * 10zsnes/src/cpu/regs.inc: Pass some more tests on the test cart |
| 19:27.16 | CIA-3 | zsnes: 03pagefault * 10zsnes/src/cpu/regs.inc: Adjusted openbus behaviour of registers, this is a WIP so bleh |
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| 19:53.31 | purple_cow | this is so weird |
| 19:53.44 | purple_cow | i'm getting really good at noticing when subtitles are translated strangely |
| 20:04.23 | CIA-3 | zsnes: 03pagefault * 10zsnes/src/ (ui.asm uic.c): Added detection code for MMX2 |
| 20:14.19 | scanline | cool, I guess that's always line level.. the volume buttons don't affect it |
| 20:14.23 | pagefault | how is the rio with vorbis? |
| 20:14.47 | scanline | haven't noticed any problems with decoding, and I've tried all the formats it supports |
| 20:15.06 | scanline | admittedly I only had one or two flac and wma files to test it with, but I've been giving it a bunch of oggs and mp3s |
| 20:15.26 | pagefault | cool |
| 20:15.28 | pagefault | would you recommend it? |
| 20:15.56 | scanline | yeah. It will disappoint you if you want something super-hackable that works with usb-storage, but as a music player it's great |
| 20:16.33 | scanline | there is an annoying ethernet bug, but I found a workaround |
| 20:16.45 | scanline | haven't tried its USB yet |
| 20:17.59 | pagefault | syncs over ethernet? |
| 20:18.07 | scanline | it supports ethernet and USB |
| 20:18.11 | pagefault | hmm nifty |
| 20:18.20 | scanline | I've only been using the ethernet, since that protocol has already been reverse engineered and documented mostly |
| 20:18.42 | scanline | been writing a Python package so I can have more flexibility than I'd get with the provided java software |
| 20:20.56 | pagefault | cool |
| 20:22.31 | CIA-3 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r7152 10xchat-gnome/fe-gnome/textgui.c: add some more font sanity checking |
| 20:22.55 | file | pagefault: resist! |
| 20:23.12 | pagefault | hooray for manual prefetch instructions |
| 20:26.29 | *** join/#tacobeam cwisty (~default@litr138-58-dhcp.colorado.edu) |
| 20:28.29 | cwisty | Anyone know where Micah is? |
| 20:28.37 | purple_cow | cwisty: in the kitchen |
| 20:29.01 | cwisty | will you go poke him for me . . . tell him he needs to fix my computer ;-) |
| 20:29.09 | darth_mall | I bet that'll make his day |
| 20:29.17 | darth_mall | he loves fixing computers =D |
| 20:29.35 | cwisty | haha |
| 20:30.47 | cwisty | thanks |
| 20:32.17 | cwisty | brb |
| 20:32.24 | *** part/#tacobeam cwisty (~default@litr138-58-dhcp.colorado.edu) |
| 20:35.08 | scanline | hmm |
| 20:37.30 | ChipX86 | ugh |
| 20:37.35 | scanline | hi |
| 20:37.47 | ChipX86 | hi |
| 20:38.00 | ChipX86 | 11 hours of sleep. That's not like me.. getting sick |
| 20:38.31 | file | I'm already sick, and my mother is insisting on cleaning my entire room after supper |
| 20:38.31 | ChipX86 | fortunatley, my body tends to fight off pretty much anything rather quickly, as long as it puts me in these huge sleep cycles, so hopefully this won't last long |
| 20:42.23 | kergoth | re |
| 20:43.53 | kergoth | i now have listerine at work |
| 20:44.12 | file64 | silly kergoth |
| 20:45.33 | purple_cow | ok, now i'm bored again |
| 20:47.28 | ChipX86 | yay for Luis Villa blogging good things about xchat-gnome |
| 20:51.09 | scanline | damn this is slow... |
| 20:51.30 | purple_cow | heh |
| 20:52.31 | scanline | it'd be awfully cool if the NFS server did something like this... |
| 20:52.46 | scanline | all new files go into a database, then directories can be set up as database queries |
| 20:53.22 | purple_cow | that sounds fragile |
| 20:53.33 | scanline | how so? |
| 20:53.48 | purple_cow | just seems like it would be easy to get the filesystem out of sync with the db |
| 20:54.11 | scanline | well, ideally you have FAM events sync'ing up the db.. but worst case, you have it regenerate the db |
| 20:54.28 | file64 | haha my mom is in a great mood, "you think you know everything... you'll get nowhere in life" |
| 20:55.44 | pagefault | what if you do know everything |
| 20:56.11 | kergoth | file64: i'm sure she thought she knew everything when she was a teenager too. perhaps you should ask her if she went anywhere in life. |
| 20:56.30 | file64 | all I said was that I don't need to go shopping for clothes for VON |
| 20:56.49 | pagefault | haha |
| 20:56.51 | file64 | all I have is an exhibitor's pass so I'll probably just hang out in the Digium booth with everyone else where the dress code is rather informal |
| 20:56.54 | pagefault | what is with moms and going clothes shopping |
| 20:59.34 | pagefault | I smell coffee |
| 20:59.43 | kergoth | yay, coffee |
| 20:59.52 | ChipX86 | what's the desire of coffee? |
| 21:00.02 | pagefault | same as sex |
| 21:00.07 | pagefault | stimulation |
| 21:00.16 | purple_cow | and it's yummy |
| 21:01.07 | pagefault | yep |
| 21:01.14 | scanline | hrm |
| 21:01.16 | ChipX86 | I've never been able to acquire a taste for it |
| 21:01.30 | scanline | I think this device stamp is getting poked any time you play a song, since the play counts are updated |
| 21:01.31 | scanline | that's silly... |
| 21:01.43 | scanline | I might end up going back to using the amount of free space as a stamp |
| 21:02.12 | kergoth | ChipX86: i hated it for years, until i tried a cafe mocha at starbucks |
| 21:02.22 | scanline | pff, starbucks |
| 21:03.18 | purple_cow | you really do need to find a "gateway drink" |
| 21:03.24 | kergoth | yeah |
| 21:03.27 | kergoth | thats the key |
| 21:03.28 | purple_cow | usually something with plenty of sugar |
| 21:03.43 | purple_cow | after that, it's an easy progression towards everything else |
| 21:03.46 | ChipX86 | ugh I feel so miserable |
| 21:04.17 | purple_cow | and then they stopped making them :( |
| 21:04.27 | pagefault | the general foods ones? |
| 21:04.38 | pagefault | in a rectangular can |
| 21:04.41 | purple_cow | no, it was some small brand |
| 21:05.45 | ChipX86 | http://clearlooks.sourceforge.net/screenshots/ |
| 21:05.46 | ChipX86 | pretty |
| 21:06.00 | purple_cow | the menu bar weirds me out |
| 21:06.05 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 21:06.27 | purple_cow | other than that it's reasonably pretty |
| 21:06.27 | ChipX86 | still going to try it |
| 21:06.32 | pagefault | what exactly is it? |
| 21:06.34 | pagefault | a new window manager? |
| 21:06.37 | ChipX86 | a theme |
| 21:07.05 | purple_cow | the various arrows could use some love |
| 21:07.15 | pagefault | looks similar to what I am using now |
| 21:07.44 | ChipX86 | http://osnews.com/comment.php?news_id=9850 |
| 21:08.04 | ChipX86 | Ross Burton pointed to that article and the post it was about |
| 21:08.23 | ChipX86 | the "announced today that ... Clearlooks .. will probably be the default theme" is not what the post said |
| 21:08.30 | ChipX86 | but, Eugenia.. |
| 21:08.35 | purple_cow | ChipX86: i'm pretty sure she edited it |
| 21:08.48 | purple_cow | when i saw the story, it was "redhat engineers announced that clearlooks would be the new default theme" |
| 21:09.00 | ChipX86 | ah |
| 21:09.12 | ChipX86 | hmm, the buttons on this theme annoy me |
| 21:10.05 | purple_cow | aha, now i know what's bothering me about that lower screenshot |
| 21:10.06 | purple_cow | the fonts! |
| 21:10.19 | scanline | ow |
| 21:10.20 | scanline | yeah |
| 21:10.29 | ChipX86 | well I guess this isn't *too* bad, but I still prefer industrial |
| 21:10.49 | purple_cow | well, i definitely like the subtle gradients in clearlooks |
| 21:10.55 | ChipX86 | "Clearlooks: Attractive Usability" |
| 21:11.55 | CIA-3 | navi-misc: 03micah * r7153 10rio-karma/python/ (5 files in 2 dirs): |
| 21:11.56 | CIA-3 | navi-misc: Pull most of the guts of Filesystem.Cache out into a new Metadata.BaseCache |
| 21:11.56 | CIA-3 | navi-misc: class, that knows how to generate and search SQL databases for particular types |
| 21:11.56 | CIA-3 | navi-misc: of file metadata. The old cache is now Filesystem.DeviceCache, and there is a |
| 21:11.56 | CIA-3 | navi-misc: new MEtadata.LocalCache for storing metadata on files in the local filesystem. |
| 21:12.33 | purple_cow | boooored |
| 21:14.22 | scanline | hmm |
| 21:14.28 | scanline | wonder if I've finally confuzzled this filesystem |
| 21:14.40 | scanline | I just uploaded a bunch of stuff, it's definitely in the database, but I can't find it in the menus |
| 21:15.34 | pagefault | ubuntu devs are on a roll |
| 21:15.40 | pagefault | 130 new packages to upgrade since yesterday |
| 21:15.42 | ChipX86 | hah |
| 21:15.49 | ChipX86 | anything good? |
| 21:16.13 | pagefault | python and gnome |
| 21:16.22 | ChipX86 | I want a new dbus |
| 21:16.24 | pagefault | and xorg updates |
| 21:17.18 | pagefault | there was a dbus update the other day |
| 21:17.22 | pagefault | I don't know if you got it or not |
| 21:19.10 | pagefault | my home folder is a mess |
| 21:19.56 | ChipX86 | uh oh, stumbled upon Rachael's deviantart gallery |
| 21:20.23 | pagefault | scary? |
| 21:20.33 | ChipX86 | and the art she was doing for that guy online who she liked so much that she canceled dates with me just to talk to |
| 21:20.43 | kergoth | :\ |
| 21:20.43 | pagefault | :/ |
| 21:20.48 | scanline | :\ |
| 21:21.00 | purple_cow | :/ |
| 21:21.58 | ChipX86 | she drew him a lot of pictures.. |
| 21:22.14 | pagefault | url? |
| 21:22.31 | ChipX86 | http://miketenchi.deviantart.com/gallery/ |
| 21:22.39 | ChipX86 | ones with Kaieph are about him |
| 21:22.41 | ChipX86 | and some others she did for him |
| 21:23.17 | ChipX86 | stupid me, but I'm about to look over the logs of her talking to him that I found |
| 21:23.33 | kergoth | bad chip. bad. |
| 21:23.36 | ChipX86 | I know |
| 21:23.41 | ChipX86 | not sure hy I'm doing this to myself |
| 21:23.42 | pagefault | :/ |
| 21:23.52 | ChipX86 | oh god. |
| 21:24.37 | ChipX86 | "Oh I know love.. but when I am on my aim you aren't there.. Hee, Oh but I llove you oh so much more. *kisses his lips nibbling at hte bottom one before trailing up his jaw with her tongue softly before sucking on his ear* |
| 21:24.49 | pagefault | ://// |
| 21:24.52 | kergoth | :( |
| 21:25.36 | ChipX86 | I found when this all happened that a few of these times she said she was free to tlak were days she canceld dates with me |
| 21:26.30 | purple_cow | ChipX86: get over her already :P |
| 21:26.33 | ChipX86 | I know |
| 21:27.28 | pagefault | so you broke up? |
| 21:27.35 | ChipX86 | this was just before she dumped me |
| 21:27.45 | ChipX86 | actually, this carried on for months before she udmped me |
| 21:27.49 | ChipX86 | when she started canceling dates |
| 21:27.53 | ChipX86 | she still denies it |
| 21:27.57 | ChipX86 | I so badly want to show her these logs |
| 21:28.18 | pagefault | damnit I don't understand people |
| 21:28.35 | pagefault | if you don't have interest in someone anymore don't cheat on them, just tell them |
| 21:29.28 | pagefault | I just think girls are evil in nature |
| 21:30.23 | kergoth | s/girls/people/ |
| 21:30.34 | pagefault | well girls are more evil |
| 21:30.42 | kergoth | some people are afraid to be alone |
| 21:30.48 | kergoth | so they just hop from relationship to relationship |
| 21:30.52 | kergoth | starting the new one before they end the last |
| 21:30.52 | pagefault | they just have the unstability of people which doesn't help much with the evilness |
| 21:31.02 | ChipX86 | I'm just going to e-mail her the pics, said I found them while cleaning out other ifles, she can have them, I don't want them anymore. |
| 21:31.34 | purple_cow | ChipX86: just delete them and move on :P |
| 21:31.49 | ChipX86 | she's always said I made up the story about her and those posts |
| 21:31.55 | kergoth | it doesnt matter |
| 21:32.00 | kergoth | letting it get to you now isnt good |
| 21:32.03 | pagefault | yeah |
| 21:32.03 | kergoth | whether she was right or wrong |
| 21:32.07 | ChipX86 | *sigh* yeah.. |
| 21:32.14 | kergoth | just let it go |
| 21:32.24 | ChipX86 | ok |
| 21:32.33 | pagefault | it sucks ChipX86, but you shouldn't let it bother you man, just look at all the good stuff you have, you have a great job and lots of friends |
| 21:32.54 | purple_cow | and a cute girl ;) |
| 21:33.05 | ChipX86 | a cute, great girl who actually wnats to spend time with me |
| 21:33.09 | ChipX86 | I must keep reminding myself of that |
| 21:33.15 | pagefault | yep |
| 21:33.18 | pagefault | :) |
| 21:33.36 | ChipX86 | a cute girl who is choosing to spend her spring break here |
| 21:36.24 | ChipX86 | my heart rate is starting to slow down again, which is good.. |
| 21:46.39 | hardwire | TACO |
| 21:46.42 | hardwire | kmfdm style |
| 21:47.51 | kergoth | yay, kmfdm |
| 21:48.45 | hardwire | today my plalist was going to be all kravitz |
| 21:48.48 | hardwire | but Ican't find him |
| 21:48.48 | hardwire | so |
| 21:48.53 | hardwire | its a mixture of KMFDM/NCC/VAC |
| 21:49.08 | kergoth | hm, i have no kmdfm on my iriver. need to fix that tonight |
| 21:49.25 | hardwire | ever heard Velvet Acid Christ or Neo Cyber Christ (no relation) |
| 21:49.48 | kergoth | i've heard of the former, but never listened to them |
| 21:49.52 | kergoth | havent heard of the latter |
| 21:50.19 | hardwire | Chemlab? |
| 21:51.28 | kergoth | i think i have something from them, but dont know them well |
| 21:52.08 | hardwire | I should proabbly give you ftp access |
| 21:52.11 | *** join/#tacobeam Nara (~Stardustc@adsl-64-169-155-228.dsl.chic01.pacbell.net) |
| 21:52.14 | hardwire | to mach your mohawk. |
| 21:52.55 | kergoth | ftp access would be good |
| 21:53.00 | kergoth | i need another hd though |
| 21:53.04 | kergoth | down to 3 gigs free :\ |
| 21:53.19 | hardwire | heh |
| 22:02.59 | ChipX86 | back |
| 22:03.03 | ChipX86 | hey Amanda |
| 22:03.08 | ChipX86 | still home sick? |
| 22:03.39 | pagefault | greetings |
| 22:04.08 | ChipX86 | wow, another Galacy Scam post |
| 22:04.14 | ChipX86 | I should just build a site based on this |
| 22:04.38 | pagefault | I need to buy some mustard |
| 22:06.24 | Nara | Oh hey! |
| 22:06.40 | Nara | Naw I went to school today, but was miserable |
| 22:06.44 | ChipX86 | :( |
| 22:07.25 | ChipX86 | well I'm getting sick now, so unless I fight it off real well, I won't be coming this weekend |
| 22:07.28 | Nara | Rawr. I have a test in Psych on Thurs and I've missed half the stuff for it. |
| 22:07.33 | ChipX86 | ugh :( |
| 22:07.35 | Nara | Awwwww |
| 22:07.38 | Nara | Nuuuuu |
| 22:08.13 | Nara | You must visit! Take lots of stuff! Take Zicam! |
| 22:08.25 | pagefault | move zig? |
| 22:08.26 | ChipX86 | I know! I'll just take everything I have at once |
| 22:08.40 | ChipX86 | that's bound to fix it |
| 22:09.06 | Nara | O__O |
| 22:09.41 | pagefault | the new scooby doo is really bad |
| 22:09.47 | pagefault | (not that the old one was good either) |
| 22:11.46 | ChipX86 | perhaps I should actually work |
| 22:12.40 | purple_cow | naw |
| 22:13.12 | Nara | Gah! DA is being soooo slow |
| 22:13.15 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 22:13.54 | Nara | Wai! Maui's allowing comments again!! *flips out* |
| 22:15.24 | ChipX86 | mmm, when I'm done with this, I'll have condensed about 70 files to 5 in a non-bloated way |
| 22:21.06 | Nara | If I didn't like Maui's art so much I'd call her a bitch. |
| 22:21.07 | ChipX86 | hmm, Kendrick invited me to lunch, but I don't htink my stomach could handle it |
| 22:21.13 | ChipX86 | heh, why's that? |
| 22:21.22 | CIA-3 | navi-misc: 03micah * r7154 10rio-karma/python/RioKarma/ (Pearl.py Request.py): |
| 22:21.22 | CIA-3 | navi-misc: Redefine the request's readResponse method a bit such that each request will be |
| 22:21.22 | CIA-3 | navi-misc: called until either it finishes or it's just been called with an empty buffer. |
| 22:21.22 | CIA-3 | navi-misc: This makes StatefulRequest much cleaner, and avoids an evil buffering bug that |
| 22:21.22 | CIA-3 | navi-misc: was causing a desynchronization and/or crash when trying to release the write |
| 22:21.22 | CIA-3 | navi-misc: lock |
| 22:22.26 | Nara | So hates her art and constantly complains about it, whines about how idiots always try to suck up to her, whines about idiots telling her her art is shit, turns off comments, complains, complains |
| 22:22.32 | Nara | So=she |
| 22:22.39 | ChipX86 | "Study finds you are more likely to be injured while drinking" <-- there's a lot of money out there just waiting to be used for stupid studies |
| 22:23.00 | purple_cow | sweeeet |
| 22:23.01 | ChipX86 | Nara: hah. That's taking it a bit far. Why does she even post it then? |
| 22:23.36 | Nara | Because she needs the attention. I think she's got a psychosis about that |
| 22:23.46 | ChipX86 | how old is she? |
| 22:23.58 | Nara | I dunno *goes to check* |
| 22:24.08 | ChipX86 | wtf. "Seventeen-year-old girl "wounded in the groin" by a .45 handgun during "bizarre bedroom activities" with her 23-year-old boyfriend" |
| 22:24.42 | Nara | 20 |
| 22:24.47 | ChipX86 | heh |
| 22:25.45 | Nara | She has issues, but her character and art rocks, so I'm not gonna get on her case |
| 22:26.08 | purple_cow | ohh man, i'm so jazzed to have found a torrent for this |
| 22:29.14 | ChipX86 | Nara: oh, do you want the extended Mitternacht and Vater Unser 2? |
| 22:29.29 | Nara | YES!! |
| 22:31.02 | ChipX86 | E Nomine |
| 22:31.08 | ChipX86 | did you ever get any of htat? |
| 22:31.29 | kergoth | nope, never did. should do that |
| 22:31.35 | ChipX86 | it's on navi |
| 22:31.38 | kergoth | cool |
| 22:31.39 | purple_cow | grr |
| 22:31.41 | file | my mother is insane |
| 22:31.47 | *** join/#tacobeam Gemis (~Stardustc@adsl-64-169-155-100.dsl.chic01.pacbell.net) |
| 22:31.47 | purple_cow | 1.8KB/s is *not* fast enough, dammit |
| 22:31.48 | file | she dusted my physics textbook because it was dirty |
| 22:31.58 | ChipX86 | Gemis: what happened? |
| 22:32.05 | scanline | damn write lock... |
| 22:32.11 | Gemis | No idea. Connection just cut on me |
| 22:32.17 | ChipX86 | weird |
| 22:32.18 | Gemis | brb |
| 22:32.47 | scanline | mooooooooooodle |
| 22:32.52 | *** join/#tacobeam Gemis (~Stardustc@adsl-64-169-155-100.dsl.chic01.pacbell.net) |
| 22:33.11 | ChipX86 | trying to get the name back? |
| 22:33.15 | Gemis | Okay...why won't it let me back on as Nara? |
| 22:33.18 | Gemis | yeah |
| 22:33.22 | Gemis | >__< |
| 22:33.23 | ChipX86 | the network thinks Nara is still connected |
| 22:33.33 | ChipX86 | so we have to wait for it to time out. Then I'll show yo uhow to register the name so you can force it to die next time |
| 22:33.34 | Gemis | Fucker....*fumes* |
| 22:33.43 | Gemis | okay |
| 22:33.56 | scanline | heh |
| 22:34.02 | Gemis | Not a big deal, really. But frustrating |
| 22:34.05 | scanline | blame TCP |
| 22:34.17 | scanline | grrrr |
| 22:34.22 | scanline | this write lock is stuck at 19/37 |
| 22:35.05 | ChipX86 | scanline: this is why we need XML/XML! |
| 22:35.16 | scanline | hah |
| 22:37.07 | purple_cow | hmm |
| 22:38.17 | ChipX86 | Nara: did you get the URLs? |
| 22:41.32 | ChipX86 | the poor rio |
| 22:41.55 | scanline | should be fine after I clear the disk |
| 22:42.08 | scanline | but I'm waiting until I have this sync tool somewhat working, so I can quickly reload it |
| 22:42.18 | ChipX86 | I discovered that aside from being hackable, the rio can also play music |
| 22:42.23 | scanline | wow! |
| 22:43.06 | scanline | you just have to write your own tool if you don't want to use their silly RMML |
| 22:43.14 | ChipX86 | nod |
| 22:43.38 | ChipX86 | I want an iriver still, but I like my rio |
| 22:43.48 | scanline | kergoth: how does the iriver's music database work? |
| 22:43.48 | ChipX86 | are there bindings to write gnome-vfs modules in python? |
| 22:43.53 | scanline | ChipX86: yes |
| 22:43.56 | ChipX86 | neat |
| 22:44.26 | kergoth | scanline: its a vfat filesystem, with a navigator that lets me traverse the directory structure in the filesystem. |
| 22:44.38 | ChipX86 | hmm, custom layouts.. |
| 22:44.40 | kergoth | scanline: i just rsync my audio archives onto the usb storage |
| 22:44.47 | ChipX86 | hmm rsync |
| 22:44.48 | scanline | kergoth: that works... but the rio's database is a lot cooler :P |
| 22:45.10 | ChipX86 | kergoth: oh yeah, scanline and I decided you need to port OE to the karma |
| 22:45.16 | kergoth | hah |
| 22:45.23 | kergoth | i already started adding rockbox to oe |
| 22:45.26 | kergoth | for the archos/iriver |
| 22:46.09 | ChipX86 | mmm, On Whom The Moon Doth Shine |
| 22:47.05 | ChipX86 | oh yeah, Rachel scp'd me some music. I should listen to that |
| 22:47.12 | kergoth | heh |
| 22:47.17 | ChipX86 | (Rachel Hestilow) |
| 22:47.48 | kergoth | hm, i better call the bank so that purchase of the shuttle goes through |
| 22:48.03 | ChipX86 | shuttle? |
| 22:48.08 | kergoth | bought an athlon64 xpc |
| 22:48.11 | ChipX86 | oh |
| 22:48.24 | ChipX86 | apparently we can request those at work now. I should do that |
| 22:48.35 | purple_cow | mmmmmm xpc |
| 22:49.25 | purple_cow | ronald bultje is insane |
| 22:49.42 | ChipX86 | Gemis: there you go. /nick Nara |
| 22:50.04 | purple_cow | wow, it's been forever since i saw this movie |
| 22:50.32 | Gemis | wait, what? Sorry, been somewhere else |
| 22:50.49 | ChipX86 | the Nara nick just died, so type /nick Nara |
| 22:50.52 | ChipX86 | that'll change your nick |
| 22:52.00 | ChipX86 | ok, now type: /msg nickserv register YourNewPasswordHere |
| 22:52.06 | kergoth | yay, my tuxscreen was shipped |
| 22:52.13 | kergoth | since i dont have enough toys to waste my time on, clearly |
| 22:52.17 | ChipX86 | yeah really |
| 22:52.23 | scanline | kergoth: the rio has menus that query the database to list songs by artist, title, album, genre, etc.. plus you can arrange playlists into any directed graph, so you can effectively set up your own menus with those |
| 22:52.33 | ChipX86 | I'm going to hold off on any more toys for a while. |
| 22:52.41 | ChipX86 | scanline: Rio DJ!! |
| 22:52.46 | scanline | and there's that :) |
| 22:52.47 | kergoth | scanline: neat. thats one thing i wish iriver had, was some nice querying mechanisms like that |
| 22:52.54 | scanline | all thanks to its neat but sometimes infuriating database |
| 22:53.06 | kergoth | course i could generate an assload of m3us, but.. |
| 22:53.07 | *** join/#tacobeam cwisty (~default@ec237-21-dhcp.colorado.edu) |
| 22:53.12 | ChipX86 | hi cwisty |
| 22:53.15 | cwisty | hi |
| 22:53.16 | scanline | now it'd be really cool to have a db like that underneath, but still emulate FAT16 on top of that |
| 22:53.25 | ChipX86 | riokarmsfs |
| 22:53.29 | scanline | hehe |
| 22:53.30 | ChipX86 | er, riokarmafs |
| 22:53.30 | scanline | hi cwisty |
| 22:53.32 | cwisty | hi |
| 22:53.35 | cwisty | sorry I suck |
| 22:53.42 | cwisty | gtk exploded |
| 22:53.45 | scanline | oh no! |
| 22:53.46 | kergoth | or the other way around, fat16 backed, but a db cache / query mechanism |
| 22:53.47 | ChipX86 | gtk does that |
| 22:53.48 | cwisty | then my wireless exploded |
| 22:53.52 | cwisty | there was much exploding |
| 22:53.57 | scanline | kerboom! |
| 22:54.00 | ChipX86 | neat. You should video tape that next time |
| 22:54.12 | cwisty | so either I can run the pulse counter or my gaim |
| 22:54.14 | cwisty | not both |
| 22:54.17 | cwisty | found that out today |
| 22:54.22 | ChipX86 | weird |
| 22:54.23 | scanline | huh |
| 22:54.30 | cwisty | two different versions of gtk |
| 22:54.33 | scanline | yeah |
| 22:54.35 | scanline | hmm |
| 22:54.45 | ChipX86 | why are they two different versions? |
| 22:54.48 | cwisty | but I'm all better now that I know that |
| 22:54.52 | cwisty | wish I knew |
| 22:54.59 | scanline | well, as long as they're both 2.x, you should be able to use both as long as pygtk matches your gtk version |
| 22:55.23 | cwisty | well when I figured this out I was mid test at CASA so I didn't have a lot of time to investigate |
| 22:55.27 | scanline | :( |
| 22:55.33 | cwisty | yeah it wasn't good |
| 22:55.45 | cwisty | this always happens to me when I upgrade stuff |
| 22:56.00 | scanline | wouldn't be hard to hack up a command line version of the counter if gtk is really being a PITA |
| 22:56.04 | purple_cow | hmm, i'd forgotten that charlton heston was in this |
| 22:56.13 | cwisty | yeah ats what I figured |
| 22:56.16 | scanline | yea.. it's a good thing windows is so great at dependency tracking :P |
| 22:56.19 | ChipX86 | guess I should write a UI now |
| 22:56.21 | cwisty | hehe |
| 22:56.44 | scanline | pretty much every real gtk app for windows bundles their own private copy of gtk |
| 22:56.51 | ChipX86 | heh |
| 22:56.55 | ChipX86 | gotta love that |
| 22:56.58 | scanline | yeah |
| 22:57.08 | scanline | that's why the fyre windows install is about 8MB |
| 22:57.26 | scanline | but thanks to LZMA the setup program is only 2.5MB :) |
| 22:57.34 | ChipX86 | not bad |
| 22:57.35 | pagefault | silly people |
| 22:57.38 | ChipX86 | even 8MB isn't bad nowadays |
| 22:57.42 | pagefault | at least gimp tells people to get gtk seperately |
| 22:57.48 | scanline | yeah.. 8MB is what, like half a printer driver? |
| 22:57.51 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 22:57.55 | ChipX86 | do you require that they reboot? :) |
| 22:57.58 | scanline | hehe |
| 22:58.09 | ChipX86 | I once had a setup progrma that just installed documentation |
| 22:58.12 | ChipX86 | it forced a reboot |
| 22:58.16 | scanline | that's nuts |
| 22:58.21 | ChipX86 | it had one dialog saying it had to reboot, and one button on it |
| 22:58.32 | scanline | I think that fyre's file associations don't work until you log out then back in, but there's no reason to force a reboot |
| 22:58.41 | pagefault | "mouse has moved, reboot now for changes to take effect" |
| 22:58.46 | ChipX86 | silly windows and not having instant apply for such things |
| 22:58.55 | ChipX86 | well, actually, silly linux for not doing it right for file associations either.. |
| 22:59.40 | ChipX86 | uh oh, vnc isn't displaying anything |
| 23:00.57 | ChipX86 | network hiccupped |
| 23:01.35 | ChipX86 | I actually figured it out |
| 23:01.44 | ChipX86 | since ws5 now has mime associations and icons |
| 23:01.51 | ChipX86 | actually, I figured out most of it, but not all |
| 23:01.58 | purple_cow | well, i got things working |
| 23:02.04 | purple_cow | but that doesn't mean i really understand it :P |
| 23:02.07 | ChipX86 | the icon thing in gnome sucks |
| 23:02.10 | file | ha this old Matrox PCI video card works better then Intel's onbaord |
| 23:02.12 | file | er onboard |
| 23:02.13 | ChipX86 | application-x-foo-bar.png doesn't work in gnome |
| 23:02.18 | ChipX86 | it must be gnome-mime-application-x-foo-bar.png |
| 23:03.02 | purple_cow | so much for desktop-independent standards |
| 23:03.06 | ChipX86 | nod |
| 23:03.12 | ChipX86 | *sigh* in time I guess.. |
| 23:03.22 | ChipX86 | there are so many easy litlte things like that that just aren't there yet |
| 23:03.34 | ChipX86 | some kind of common way of launching a web browser or e-mail client would be nice too |
| 23:03.49 | ChipX86 | but I'm asking for way too much there ;) |
| 23:03.50 | scanline | You lied about your status, you lied about your life. You forgot you have three children you forgot about your wife. Now it's england 2, columbia nil. |
| 23:04.01 | scanline | too long since I've listened to this... |
| 23:05.18 | scanline | eep. forgot she rhymes 'hell' with 'brazil' at the end :P |
| 23:06.02 | ChipX86 | haha |
| 23:06.34 | purple_cow | hehe |
| 23:06.52 | purple_cow | that's not quite as bad as david bowie rhyming "dry" with "dry" |
| 23:06.59 | ChipX86 | ughh I hate that :) |
| 23:07.04 | scanline | :) |
| 23:07.22 | scanline | yikes.. metadata explosion |
| 23:07.25 | ChipX86 | and then there's the songs that need a filler in some spots so they put in "today" |
| 23:07.30 | purple_cow | well, he only did it once, and he's beautiful so i can forgive him for it |
| 23:07.34 | purple_cow | but it still makes me angry |
| 23:07.40 | scanline | ChipX86: bugs the crap out of me when they use "now" as a filler |
| 23:07.54 | rioter | about as angry as iron maiden using the word prance in a song make me? |
| 23:07.54 | ChipX86 | "monkey" isn't used as a filler often enough |
| 23:07.57 | purple_cow | or "yeah" |
| 23:07.57 | scanline | ChipX86: Weird Al was always horrible with that, and I listened to him way too much in high school |
| 23:08.06 | ChipX86 | yay Weird Al |
| 23:08.10 | ChipX86 | It's all about the pentiums, baby |
| 23:08.15 | scanline | =) |
| 23:08.30 | ChipX86 | in fact.. *grabs his rio* |
| 23:09.09 | scanline | oh... |
| 23:09.22 | scanline | so there actually is a reason to not stuff all metadata in there... |
| 23:09.27 | ChipX86 | hah |
| 23:09.29 | ChipX86 | what happened? |
| 23:09.29 | scanline | at the most, I should be sending only searchable metadata |
| 23:09.48 | scanline | well, I had some code earlier that generated some playlists |
| 23:10.04 | scanline | when filling in the individual files, it used all of their metadata rather than just fid and fid_generation |
| 23:10.13 | ChipX86 | ah |
| 23:10.20 | ChipX86 | and their code doesn't ignore unknown metadata keys? |
| 23:10.21 | scanline | now when reading it back in from my local cache, it turns out that this giant wad of crap isn't exactly usable as a search key |
| 23:10.42 | scanline | this is all in my code.. if it went out to the device it'd be packed into a binary format that only has those two keys |
| 23:10.50 | ChipX86 | oh ok |
| 23:11.01 | scanline | but the cache has two parts- the dict itself is pickled, then searchable parts are stored as separate SQL columns |
| 23:11.29 | ChipX86 | aww |
| 23:13.37 | scanline | ChipX86: with this python package, you can mostly say good-bye to the big 'downloading...' delay RMML gives you :) |
| 23:13.43 | ChipX86 | :D |
| 23:15.23 | purple_cow | cwisty: when/where is that meeting you mentioned? |
| 23:17.00 | cwisty | hang on a sec |
| 23:17.02 | cwisty | talkin to Kendra |
| 23:17.32 | CIA-3 | zsnes: 03pagefault * 10zsnes/src/video/newgfx16.asm: Fixed a logic bug in windowing/transparency code |
| 23:17.57 | CIA-3 | navi-misc: 03micah * r7155 10rio-karma/python/ (RioKarma/Filesystem.py RioKarma/Metadata.py demo.py): Fix more playlist bugs. Switch back over to using the bytes of free space as a device stamp, since the other one changes every time a song's play count is modified |
| 23:20.10 | CIA-3 | navi-misc: 03micah * r7156 10rio-karma/python/TODO: I think this needs a TODO |
| 23:20.20 | cwisty | my meeting today at CASA? |
| 23:20.30 | scanline | I think he means the ACM meeting |
| 23:20.33 | cwisty | ah |
| 23:20.45 | cwisty | I'm a meeting junkie you gotta specify |
| 23:20.50 | scanline | :) |
| 23:20.52 | cwisty | ACM ECOT 831 at 6:00 |
| 23:21.00 | cwisty | I should order pizza, thanks for reminding me |
| 23:21.06 | scanline | yay, pizza |
| 23:21.12 | ChipX86 | mmm pizza |
| 23:21.18 | cwisty | anyone have one of those student cupon dealy's around? |
| 23:21.34 | cwisty | there's a cupon # I like to use and can never remember |
| 23:21.49 | scanline | got a bunch of mailings stuck to our fridge, but I don't think I have a recent CU coupon book |
| 23:22.02 | cwisty | hmmmm |
| 23:22.18 | cwisty | I know exactly the cupon I want in my head, it's like 51 or something |
| 23:22.21 | cwisty | ah maybe I"ll just call |
| 23:22.33 | scanline | where are you ordering from? |
| 23:22.43 | cwisty | another good question |
| 23:22.57 | cwisty | I think we got a really great deal from Papa Johns last time |
| 23:23.06 | cwisty | but my memory isn't telling me right now |
| 23:23.50 | ChipX86 | hahah |
| 23:23.57 | ChipX86 | could try |
| 23:24.01 | scanline | I'm about to |
| 23:24.05 | ChipX86 | ohh boy |
| 23:24.17 | cwisty | uh oh |
| 23:24.21 | scanline | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:24.22 | scanline | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:24.43 | ChipX86 | heh |
| 23:24.51 | scanline | well, it wrote that correctly... |
| 23:25.01 | scanline | aw |
| 23:25.04 | scanline | it just shows up empty |
| 23:25.10 | ChipX86 | awww |
| 23:25.14 | ChipX86 | no teh explodi |
| 23:25.18 | scanline | yep |
| 23:26.29 | scanline | hmm |
| 23:26.32 | scanline | stuck at 19/37 again |
| 23:27.00 | scanline | presumably it's replaying a journal or something |
| 23:27.10 | scanline | so maybe I just have a corrupted fs |
| 23:27.31 | ChipX86 | it would not surprise me |
| 23:27.49 | scanline | ah well. I'm pretty close to having a sync tool of some sort |
| 23:27.58 | ChipX86 | nice |
| 23:28.12 | ChipX86 | what are you at? |
| 23:28.18 | scanline | 2.3k |
| 23:28.22 | ChipX86 | hah |
| 23:28.31 | scanline | so, still pretty small.. but a lot more complex than I had expected |
| 23:29.18 | scanline | and this is with sqlite, mmpython, and twisted doing most of the really dirty work |
| 23:29.52 | ChipX86 | gah, every time I look at the tv it's a MSN Search commercial |
| 23:30.02 | ChipX86 | with their crappy songs |
| 23:40.59 | cwisty | scanline: do I have you to blame for this mess in my spot in the assembly lab? |
| 23:41.26 | scanline | cwisty: hmm. probably. have they not integrated the C&DH box yet? |
| 23:41.44 | cwisty | they who? |
| 23:41.49 | scanline | "they" |
| 23:42.04 | cwisty | there's just stuff all over teh place here, but no C&DH box to be seen |
| 23:42.07 | scanline | ah |
| 23:42.08 | cwisty | I think it's in the clean room |
| 23:42.14 | cwisty | just lots of shizznit |
| 23:42.24 | scanline | ok.. so they took the C&DH box and left all my wiring probably |
| 23:42.25 | lurgy | uh oh shizznit |
| 23:42.28 | lurgy | inexcusable |
| 23:42.29 | scanline | sorry about that |
| 23:42.30 | cwisty | hehe |
| 23:42.38 | cwisty | 'tis OK I clean |
| 23:42.55 | scanline | if there are any funny-looking cables there still, could you stick them in the CX C&DH cabinet? |
| 23:43.20 | cwisty | it's all still here and yest I will |
| 23:43.37 | scanline | purple_cow: you should show up to the ACM meeting completely hammered |
| 23:43.48 | cwisty | only if you bring some for me! |
| 23:43.49 | purple_cow | scanline: heh, i was thinking more along the lines of espresso |
| 23:43.56 | purple_cow | but that works too |
| 23:44.00 | scanline | hehe |
| 23:44.12 | cwisty | what kinda pizza should I get, 1 topping |
| 23:44.18 | lurgy | pineapple |
| 23:44.19 | purple_cow | human! |
| 23:44.21 | lurgy | no question |
| 23:44.21 | scanline | jalapeno |
| 23:44.23 | cwisty | you get to choose 5 |
| 23:44.38 | lurgy | 5 pizzas? |
| 23:45.04 | lurgy | so.. 5 pineapple! |
| 23:45.08 | scanline | :) |
| 23:45.09 | cwisty | hehe |
| 23:45.20 | cwisty | 5 pizza's 1 topping each |
| 23:45.29 | lurgy | yep, 5 pineapple pizzas |
| 23:45.31 | cwisty | ok |
| 23:45.32 | lurgy | sounds like a plan to me |
| 23:46.06 | scanline | or we could get 3 pineapple and 2 jalapeno, then redistribute the toppings a bit |
| 23:46.18 | lurgy | or you could get those and put them in a blender and make smoothies |
| 23:46.23 | cwisty | yum |
| 23:46.23 | scanline | yep |
| 23:46.50 | ChipX86 | hah |
| 23:47.10 | lurgy | makes me wish i were going to this, but alas, no |
| 23:47.20 | ChipX86 | remember the guy I mentioned the other day from Chico who wnated to know how to find the password in MSN auth? |
| 23:47.41 | scanline | how to find the password? |
| 23:48.11 | ChipX86 | he thought if you just capture MSN auth packets, you can find the person's password in it and use their account |
| 23:48.17 | scanline | hahaha |
| 23:48.22 | ChipX86 | :) |
| 23:48.28 | ChipX86 | he said he was only doing this for "curiosity" reasons |
| 23:48.30 | ChipX86 | well, now: |
| 23:48.39 | ChipX86 | (15:46:31) Daniel (struct): i got caught hacking |
| 23:48.40 | scanline | what does MSN use, a simple challenge-response? |
| 23:48.51 | ChipX86 | a several stage challenge/response |
| 23:49.06 | scanline | fun |
| 23:49.18 | scanline | hehe |
| 23:49.28 | ChipX86 | heh he's screwed |
| 23:49.54 | ChipX86 | he blamed his depression |
| 23:49.57 | scanline | let me guess.. he's a high school student or something, and his parents think ethereal is a h4><0r tool? |
| 23:50.57 | ChipX86 | college |
| 23:51.01 | cwisty | hehe |
| 23:51.07 | ChipX86 | he was eavesdropping on the school network |
| 23:51.12 | scanline | ah |
| 23:51.13 | ChipX86 | some guy at school was logging into his business ftp site |
| 23:51.15 | lurgy | heh |
| 23:51.15 | ChipX86 | he got the password |
| 23:51.18 | ChipX86 | and screwed with the server |
| 23:51.23 | ChipX86 | and the business was down for 3 days |
| 23:51.31 | scanline | wow... you have to get up pretty early in the morning... |
| 23:51.31 | ChipX86 | it was very easy to catch him, and they did |
| 23:51.46 | lurgy | oh my |
| 23:52.00 | scanline | although using ftp for something that critical is rather dumb too :P |
| 23:52.07 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 23:52.21 | ChipX86 | the guy didn't press charges, but he sent the info to the school, ISP, and other places |
| 23:55.12 | ChipX86 | (15:54:23) Daniel (struct): all i did with the schools equipment was wiretap |
| 23:55.12 | ChipX86 | (15:54:28) Daniel (struct): the rest i done at home with a proxy |
| 23:55.13 | ChipX86 | (15:54:42) ChipX86: wiretapping is illegal |
| 23:55.13 | ChipX86 | (15:54:48) Daniel (struct): yeah i know that now |
| 23:55.57 | scanline | do you know if this was an unswitched network, or if he had to ARP poison it? |
| 23:56.08 | ChipX86 | I have no idea |
| 23:56.34 | lurgy | heheh |
| 23:56.55 | lurgy | eek |
| 23:57.27 | purple_cow | that wasn't nearly as clever as drew's h4x0ring |
