| 00:00.11 | hardwire | each with 2 wireless cards in it |
| 00:00.15 | hardwire | all of them constantly moving traffic |
| 00:00.19 | hardwire | and I have a huge headache |
| 00:00.46 | Laser_Dolphin | I have no harddrive |
| 00:00.47 | hardwire | I think I need magnetos helmet |
| 00:01.41 | Laser_Dolphin | GODDAMNIT |
| 00:01.50 | Laser_Dolphin | This freakin blows! |
| 00:02.02 | Laser_Dolphin | I just lost three entire labs that are all due next week |
| 00:02.09 | rioter | ouch |
| 00:02.21 | Laser_Dolphin | My entire HD just crashed |
| 00:02.40 | Laser_Dolphin | I really hope its my IDE controller and not my hard drivew |
| 00:04.57 | Laser_Dolphin | So has anyone seen scanline ? |
| 00:11.46 | Laser_Dolphin | Anyone know how to get data off of a laptop hard drive? |
| 00:14.50 | TD | scanline: do we have any stats on fyre downloads |
| 00:14.53 | TD | ? |
| 00:25.52 | TD | thanks |
| 00:26.00 | TD | wow, boo looks like my dream language |
| 00:26.04 | TD | except it's for .net |
| 00:26.17 | ChipX86 | all dream languages are for .net, didn't you get the memo? |
| 00:26.54 | purple_cow | 270 fyre-1.0.0.tar.bz2 |
| 00:26.54 | purple_cow | 244 fyre-1.0.0.exe |
| 00:26.54 | purple_cow | 115 fyre-1.0.0.tar.gz |
| 00:26.54 | purple_cow | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:26.54 | purple_cow | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:26.55 | purple_cow | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:26.57 | TD | heh |
| 00:27.12 | TD | hey, 86 autopackage users |
| 00:27.16 | TD | and no complaints! i guess that's good |
| 00:27.21 | TD | no praise either, but can't have everything .... |
| 00:27.55 | ChipX86 | or can you? |
| 00:28.04 | ChipX86 | if you forced them to praise you... hmmmm |
| 00:28.07 | TD | lol |
| 00:28.13 | TD | i should put a "Did you like autopackage?" link at the end |
| 00:28.16 | TD | but that'd be gratuitous :) |
| 00:28.26 | kergoth | i'd click 'no' just out of spite |
| 00:28.29 | purple_cow | so i found all my calligraphy stuff when i was searching for bicycle jerseys :) |
| 00:28.30 | ChipX86 | me too |
| 00:28.41 | TD | nice |
| 00:28.47 | TD | 7363957 hits in february |
| 00:28.55 | purple_cow | as well as 3 ipv6 pins |
| 00:29.29 | TD | http://www.winehq.org/webalizer/usage_200502.html |
| 00:29.38 | TD | wtf? |
| 00:29.38 | TD | 10 427 0.39% new bugs bunny |
| 00:29.47 | TD | people are getting to winehq.com by searching for "new bugs bunny" ? |
| 00:30.18 | kergoth | hah |
| 00:30.32 | ChipX86 | whatever works |
| 00:30.44 | ChipX86 | put a drunk rabbit on the page |
| 00:31.20 | purple_cow | TD: 9th result on the 3rd page :) |
| 00:31.48 | ChipX86 | my commit message |
| 00:31.55 | ChipX86 | "Beat the YAH suspend icon to a bloody pulp." |
| 00:31.57 | scanline | m |
| 00:32.14 | TD | heh |
| 00:33.02 | ChipX86 | either inkscape is screwing up when duplicating things in an svg, or librsvg is screwing up when rendering them |
| 00:33.08 | ChipX86 | I'm not entirely sure which it is |
| 00:33.14 | ChipX86 | I think it's inkscape though |
| 00:33.25 | ChipX86 | duplicating and grouping have caused badly generated SVGs |
| 00:33.44 | purple_cow | scanline: coffee? |
| 00:43.15 | Laser_Dolphin | Ohh, scanline |
| 00:44.57 | Laser_Dolphin | Do you have any nifty device that I can connect to my laptop harddrive to get the data off of it because it just crashed? |
| 00:50.22 | kergoth | its just ide. you need one of those adapters from the small laptop ide connector to a normal ide connector. |
| 00:50.25 | kergoth | heh |
| 00:53.49 | ChipX86 | uh oh, regis is in a bad mood, and has to review my change |
| 00:53.58 | Laser_Dolphin | kergoth: Are those widgets expensive? |
| 00:54.29 | kergoth | Laser_Dolphin: iirc a couple bucks at most |
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| 00:57.05 | zak | Laser_Dolphin: scanline said he would be willing to take a poke at your computer but isn't sure he can do anything |
| 00:57.37 | Laser_Dolphin | hmmm |
| 00:57.44 | Laser_Dolphin | I think I may take him up on that |
| 00:58.05 | nullpuppy | Laser_Dolphin: you need a 2.5" -> 3.5 adapter... or a external hard drive enclosure that can hold a 2.5" drive |
| 00:58.12 | zak | /us are at apt 2 |
| 00:58.20 | Laser_Dolphin | I'm going to be leaving soon |
| 00:59.06 | zak | if you decide to come over, will you get my phone charger from your house? |
| 00:59.52 | Laser_Dolphin | ok |
| 00:59.59 | Laser_Dolphin | is beeve a word? |
| 01:00.21 | zak | lurgy: you got a female calling for you |
| 01:00.40 | rioter | go lurgy! |
| 01:00.52 | Laser_Dolphin | No she doesn't\ |
| 01:03.43 | Laser_Dolphin | See yalls soon |
| 01:03.59 | file | eek hardwire alert |
| 01:07.55 | file | hardwire: you dare wake me up?!? |
| 01:11.02 | hardwire | hah |
| 01:11.04 | hardwire | dude |
| 01:11.08 | hardwire | its got syslog support |
| 01:11.10 | hardwire | and it can do a continuous RF test that kills my network |
| 01:11.12 | hardwire | thats.. nice.. I guess.. |
| 01:11.14 | hardwire | like.. completely floods the frequency |
| 01:11.35 | file | you should go find a competitor's network... |
| 01:13.54 | hardwire | 8080 |
| 01:13.55 | hardwire | ok |
| 01:13.57 | hardwire | that helps |
| 01:13.58 | hardwire | no manual |
| 01:14.21 | hardwire | its really pokey over the web interface |
| 01:15.36 | hardwire | a lot of it is still very much in japanese |
| 01:16.37 | file | ic |
| 01:17.37 | hardwire | quite tiny ones probably |
| 01:17.43 | hardwire | sorry for waking you |
| 01:17.46 | hardwire | wakka wakka |
| 01:17.53 | file | hehe |
| 01:25.18 | hardwire | http://www.udcsystems.com/unidata_eng/netscape/frame.asp |
| 01:25.21 | hardwire | these are pretty |
| 01:26.00 | hardwire | the wireless wone is just a bluetooth audio device |
| 01:30.45 | file | yup yup yup |
| 01:40.04 | zak | bigger this time, no? |
| 01:40.26 | kergoth | 4 returns? |
| 01:40.32 | kergoth | past years? |
| 01:41.22 | laodmas | Federal, Colorado, Oregon, and Multnomah County |
| 01:42.19 | kergoth | ahh, jeeze, sounds painful |
| 01:42.54 | zak | are you an official resident next year? |
| 01:43.03 | zak | damn leg itch'n! |
| 01:43.19 | laodmas | I was a part-year residient in 04, and will be full year in 05 |
| 01:43.56 | laodmas | Anyway, that was six hours of my life wasted |
| 01:44.07 | laodmas | zak: anything happening in Boulder tonight? |
| 01:45.17 | zak | we're going to sushi at 10 |
| 01:45.22 | zak | and trev is here |
| 01:46.44 | lurgy | zak: have you been home today? |
| 01:47.04 | purple_cow | lurgy: she's over here right now... |
| 01:47.09 | lurgy | yay |
| 01:47.40 | laodmas | I really like how the instruction booklet for the federal return is like 350 pages long |
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| 01:48.11 | laodmas | purple_cow: mind if I come visit tonight? |
| 01:49.42 | purple_cow | laodmas: not at all |
| 01:50.37 | laodmas | cool, I'll my American Astronaut DVD |
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| 01:50.42 | purple_cow | laodmas: we have it too |
| 01:50.55 | purple_cow | darth_mall's brother set aside a copy as soon as they got it at albums |
| 01:51.14 | laodmas | amazon just sent me mine yesterday |
| 01:52.27 | purple_cow | cool |
| 01:52.54 | purple_cow | urgh |
| 01:53.18 | purple_cow | the secretary lady got them to do hand-drawn checks rather than putting off payroll for 2 weeks |
| 01:53.32 | purple_cow | so now i have to go pick up a check rather than just letting them deposit it =P |
| 01:53.33 | ChipX86 | wow. |
| 01:53.42 | ChipX86 | so, stressful hour there. |
| 01:54.21 | ChipX86 | Regis was kind of in a bad mood from the rest of the day, and had to review my massive change. He decided I was doing it too hard, and told me to revert about 80% of the code. So I did. THen we realized it actually would work :) |
| 01:54.45 | ChipX86 | so that code was gone, so we went to find a way to make this all work again in a non-hacky way. And we did, fortunately. Now it looks like such a simple change (not that mine was necessarily overly complex) |
| 01:56.41 | purple_cow | cool |
| 01:57.15 | kergoth | ChipX86: :\ |
| 01:57.26 | kergoth | i should go home |
| 01:57.31 | kergoth | and see if they hooked my electricity back up |
| 01:57.34 | purple_cow | heh |
| 01:57.34 | kergoth | heh. |
| 01:58.28 | TD | argh |
| 01:58.41 | TD | the guy i thought would actually be a good coder on my team just checked in code like this |
| 01:59.10 | TD | package seg5; |
| 01:59.10 | TD | import java.sql.*; |
| 01:59.13 | TD | ugh |
| 01:59.17 | purple_cow | ouch |
| 01:59.29 | TD | somehow it was mangled beyond emacs ability to recognise dos line endings |
| 01:59.32 | TD | so it's all on one line |
| 01:59.44 | TD | there is no indenting |
| 01:59.55 | TD | because the editor he is recommending all the other team members use apparently doesn't do it properly |
| 02:00.00 | file64 | indentation, it's a good thing |
| 02:01.12 | file64 | TD: yelling is more fun |
| 02:02.04 | purple_cow | laodamas|away: did you ever end up getting one of those 2.5" ide converters? |
| 02:02.50 | file64 | oh much better... finally fixed my fonts |
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| 02:20.42 | *** part/#tacobeam luqui (~luqui@c-67-165-197-242.client.comcast.net) |
| 02:22.44 | zak | laodamas|away: You should become unaway and answer purple_cow's question |
| 02:23.23 | scanline | ChipX86: didn't you say you had trouble getting your ethernet working? I might be having the same problem |
| 02:23.39 | scanline | ChipX86: it always comes up with a 169.whatever IP address via DHCP, and static IPs don't seem to work |
| 02:23.48 | scanline | link light is on, but otherwise it seems deadish |
| 02:25.28 | ChipX86 | yep, that was my problem |
| 02:25.45 | ChipX86 | but now networking works, at least with a static IP (which it didn't at first) |
| 02:25.48 | ChipX86 | not sure what fixed it |
| 02:27.00 | ChipX86 | you need to write a USB driver and I'll write the network FS driver |
| 02:27.03 | ChipX86 | or at least gnome-vfs |
| 02:29.33 | hardwire | my neurons are exploding |
| 02:39.03 | CIA-3 | winehq: 03Mike Hearn <mh@codeweavers.com> * 10/: Alert user that we don't support native DirectDraw |
| 02:41.03 | CIA-3 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r7093 10xchat-gnome/fe-gnome/ (irc-network-editor.c irc-network-editor.h): populate autojoin list |
| 03:00.08 | hardwire | hah |
| 03:02.46 | zak | i like tre i really do, but he's driving me crazy! |
| 03:02.56 | zak | s/tre/trev |
| 03:03.46 | file64 | the Hitachi-like one |
| 03:03.51 | hardwire | noooo |
| 03:03.54 | hardwire | not my hitachi phone |
| 03:04.27 | zak | please fix it scanline :) please please |
| 03:04.29 | zak | :P |
| 03:05.18 | scanline | hehe |
| 03:10.09 | hardwire | I have an o3 headache I think |
| 03:10.16 | hardwire | and probably a developing tumor |
| 03:13.00 | zak | merph |
| 03:13.54 | zak | no more banging! |
| 03:13.58 | zak | nooooooooooooooooooooooo |
| 03:18.12 | zak | help me please i can't take it anymore |
| 03:21.31 | zak | slimspace: i e o u |
| 03:21.33 | zak | err |
| 03:21.36 | zak | aeiou |
| 03:21.44 | slimspace | hehe, hi zak |
| 03:26.25 | slimspace | mmm, there we go |
| 03:34.53 | scanline | ChipX86: wasn't there a command line tool somewhere for networkiness with the rio? |
| 03:46.13 | merlin262 | *YAWNS* |
| 03:49.09 | ChipX86 | yay hom |
| 03:49.09 | ChipX86 | e |
| 03:49.18 | ChipX86 | scanline: yeah, rmml.dev.java.net |
| 03:49.36 | file | ChipX86: it is fast approaching the time when I may meet you :p |
| 03:50.00 | ChipX86 | oh? when? |
| 03:50.23 | file | welll don't quite know when I could swing over to see you |
| 03:50.38 | file | but I'm in the San Jose area from the 6th to the 12th |
| 03:50.42 | ChipX86 | cool |
| 03:50.57 | ChipX86 | oh, that'd be the next weekend |
| 03:51.00 | ChipX86 | I might be in Chico that weekend |
| 03:51.13 | file | we'll see. |
| 03:52.27 | scanline | ChipX86: found it |
| 03:52.45 | scanline | ChipX86: according to some forum-person, it doesn't like your hub if the light near the USB port is on continuously |
| 03:52.51 | ChipX86 | nooooooooo |
| 03:52.57 | scanline | so it looks like it didn't like our upstairs switch, but the one downstairs seems to work |
| 03:53.00 | ChipX86 | :~( |
| 03:53.06 | ChipX86 | someone on SG-1 just died |
| 03:53.09 | scanline | oh no! |
| 03:53.27 | ChipX86 | how up-to-date are you guys on SG-1? |
| 03:54.50 | purple_cow | not very |
| 03:54.53 | scanline | ChipX86: about 10 years behind |
| 03:54.57 | ChipX86 | heh |
| 03:55.00 | ChipX86 | I won't spoil anything |
| 03:55.05 | purple_cow | i think the last season we've seen is 5, which was terrible |
| 03:55.15 | ChipX86 | nod |
| 03:55.21 | ChipX86 | it's not getting any better, but I still enjoy it |
| 04:04.44 | CIA-3 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r7094 10motion/scripts/amc_import.py: this seems to be slightly less broken in terms of the motion being right, but it's still pretty messed up |
| 04:05.17 | ChipX86 | this episode is very obviously set up so that they can end the series shortly after if they need to |
| 04:07.20 | purple_cow | heh |
| 04:17.41 | CIA-3 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r7095 10motion/scripts/amc_import.py: fix horizontal transform a bit, maybe |
| 04:24.10 | kergoth | my electricity |
| 04:24.11 | kergoth | isnt fixed. |
| 04:25.18 | kergoth | so, i just got a piercing. first i've ever gotten |
| 04:25.52 | ChipX86 | where? |
| 04:26.17 | kergoth | center of the lower lip. |
| 04:26.20 | purple_cow | ew |
| 04:26.23 | ChipX86 | ow |
| 04:26.44 | kergoth | ChipX86: http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.kscope4fun.com/images/Lip.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.kscope4fun.com/Lip.htm&h=600&w=800&sz=54&tbnid=MNMVVJmljl0J:&tbnh=106&tbnw=141&start=8&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dlip%2Bpiercing%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26sa%3DG |
| 04:26.48 | kergoth | eep |
| 04:26.50 | kergoth | crappy url, but thats the type of piercing |
| 04:33.44 | kergoth | ChipX86: wtf does 'proxy connection error 500' mean from gaim? |
| 04:33.48 | ChipX86 | dunno |
| 04:33.54 | kergoth | i can connect to yahoo from behind the http proxy just fine |
| 04:34.00 | kergoth | aim & icq both immediately disconnect |
| 04:34.03 | kergoth | hrm |
| 04:34.13 | ChipX86 | maybe that port is blocked |
| 04:34.14 | kergoth | maybe i'll setup bitlbee on the linode |
| 04:34.37 | kergoth | hm. the chick said to rinse with listerine after drinking or eating anything but water |
| 04:34.41 | kergoth | so.. how the fuck am i going to manage int he mornings without coffee? |
| 04:34.45 | kergoth | maybe i need listerine and coffee, and alternate |
| 04:34.48 | kergoth | heh |
| 04:35.06 | hardwire | file: hah |
| 04:35.12 | hardwire | what happened to you? |
| 04:36.04 | ChipX86 | you should see this episode :P |
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| 04:42.31 | kergoth | hmm |
| 04:43.46 | kergoth | gr |
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| 05:03.06 | kergoth | ChipX86: http://covenant.kergoth.com/chris2.jpg |
| 05:03.07 | kergoth | heh |
| 05:03.16 | kergoth | crappy photo, and i look like crap (long day), but oh well |
| 05:04.08 | kergoth | i must be the most unphotogenic person in existance |
| 05:04.11 | kergoth | i swear |
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| 05:30.28 | kergoth | i should get a digital camera. |
| 05:30.42 | ChipX86 | back |
| 05:30.47 | ChipX86 | you're not the most unphotogenic person. I'm worse |
| 05:31.39 | kergoth | i tend to look like crap in pictures if i dont smile, but if i smile, it invariably turns out wrong anyway |
| 05:31.51 | ChipX86 | bah, this guy I know from Chico is trying to ask me how to grab a password from an SSL auth for MSN |
| 05:31.55 | ChipX86 | it's not doable |
| 05:32.07 | ChipX86 | but he insists that it has to be. I asked why. "Curiosity." |
| 05:32.24 | kergoth | odd |
| 05:34.29 | ChipX86 | I should go to the store, get some dinner. |
| 05:34.32 | ChipX86 | Not sure what I'd want though |
| 05:34.38 | kergoth | food! |
| 05:34.43 | ChipX86 | oh yeah! |
| 05:34.45 | ChipX86 | but what |
| 05:34.48 | kergoth | oh |
| 05:34.53 | kergoth | the good kind. |
| 05:35.04 | ChipX86 | all good ideas |
| 05:35.12 | kergoth | i'm so helpful tonight |
| 05:35.14 | ChipX86 | yep |
| 05:35.20 | kergoth | and you know, itd be nice if i'd stop spilling water on myself |
| 05:35.22 | ChipX86 | I think I'm developing a headache |
| 05:35.23 | kergoth | i was thinking earlier |
| 05:35.30 | kergoth | when i was younger, my dad used to joke, when i'd spill |
| 05:35.34 | kergoth | "what, have you got a hole in your lip?" |
| 05:35.40 | kergoth | now i can say "yes! in fact, i do!" |
| 05:35.45 | ChipX86 | hah |
| 05:36.09 | ChipX86 | part of me wants an artichoke |
| 05:36.13 | ChipX86 | but I hate those |
| 05:36.17 | kergoth | thats rather odd |
| 05:36.18 | ChipX86 | I think |
| 05:36.26 | ChipX86 | I also want a salad |
| 05:36.32 | ChipX86 | and a pickle |
| 05:36.35 | ChipX86 | but I cannot stand pickles |
| 05:36.47 | kergoth | you seem awfully confused |
| 05:37.31 | ChipX86 | always |
| 05:37.42 | ChipX86 | I had a sign on my door back home for years. "I am confused" |
| 05:38.49 | ChipX86 | I should clean out my buddy list |
| 05:39.02 | ChipX86 | I think I'll do that right now |
| 05:50.49 | ChipX86 | meh, store's about to close |
| 05:50.53 | kergoth | heh |
| 05:50.55 | kergoth | run |
| 05:51.00 | ChipX86 | not sure what I'd want :/ |
| 05:51.01 | ChipX86 | brb |
| 05:51.04 | kergoth | dont have a 24 hour grocery store or something? |
| 05:51.09 | kergoth | i dunno what i'd do without them |
| 05:51.56 | ChipX86 | man, I always call Jamie when she's in the shower |
| 05:52.00 | ChipX86 | ok, store, brb |
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| 06:10.18 | CIA-3 | openembedded: 03kergoth 07 * r1.3126 10openembedded/packages/initscripts/ (initscripts-1.0/devices initscripts_1.0.bb): Unbork udev detection in the devices startup script. |
| 06:21.58 | CIA-3 | openembedded: 03kergoth 07 * r1.3127 10openembedded/packages/udev/ (udev_054.bb udev-054/flags.patch): Add udev 054. |
| 06:39.19 | ChipX86 | mm yay jamie |
| 06:39.32 | kergoth | yay |
| 06:47.00 | ChipX86 | I think I'll go and draw a chicken |
| 06:50.32 | purple_cow | :) |
| 06:52.55 | kergoth | i think i'll go home, to my dark apartment, and get some sleep |
| 06:53.36 | ChipX86 | "The Matrix is the world that has been pulled over your eyes to blind you from the truth." "What truth?" "There is no spoon." |
| 07:09.19 | ChipX86 | my chicken is not going well |
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| 07:21.38 | zak | scanline: what time do you guys want to go to breakfast or are we all feeling more then a little poor after our diner? |
| 07:21.42 | zak | s/diner/dinner |
| 07:21.52 | purple_cow | zak: what time were you thinking? |
| 07:22.12 | zak | not exactly early...10ish mayhaps? |
| 07:22.25 | purple_cow | 10 sounds acceptably middle |
| 07:22.41 | zak | ok, i will show up at 10ish then |
| 07:22.57 | zak | is lurgy coming? (is laodamas?) |
| 07:23.20 | purple_cow | no |
| 07:23.28 | zak | to both? |
| 07:23.40 | purple_cow | seems that way |
| 07:23.48 | zak | okay |
| 07:24.09 | zak | having established that, i'll see you, scanline, and trev at 10 tomorrow |
| 07:24.11 | zak | g'night |
| 07:24.17 | purple_cow | 'night |
| 07:43.17 | scanline | oh no, breakfast |
| 07:46.30 | kergoth`zzz | woo! |
| 07:57.57 | purple_cow | creepyt |
| 08:07.53 | scanline | yay portable music |
| 08:08.19 | kergoth | you get your rio? |
| 08:08.19 | ChipX86 | how is it? |
| 08:12.15 | ChipX86 | NOOO |
| 08:12.18 | ChipX86 | die inkscape |
| 08:12.27 | kergoth | ? |
| 08:12.46 | ChipX86 | inkscape crashed |
| 08:12.59 | kergoth | :\ |
| 08:13.07 | ChipX86 | didn't lose much |
| 08:31.01 | scanline | hmm |
| 08:31.24 | scanline | so it appears that the karma's ethernet is just rather finicky... I got the problem where both lights stay on again, but just plugging it in slower and at an angle seemed to fix it |
| 08:31.42 | scanline | tempted to look at it on the scope sometime.. might be able to stick a filter of some sort on the ethernet cable to fix it |
| 08:32.31 | ChipX86 | yay |
| 08:32.31 | ChipX86 | http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/15545495/ |
| 08:34.46 | scanline | hehe |
| 08:45.55 | ChipX86 | $12.50 from cafepress |
| 08:46.33 | scanline | yay |
| 08:56.25 | purple_cow | ChipX86: awesome chicken |
| 08:56.32 | ChipX86 | thanks |
| 09:03.55 | ChipX86 | :) |
| 09:04.01 | ChipX86 | you need to write a USB driver :D |
| 09:04.06 | ChipX86 | and I'll do a network FS |
| 09:04.10 | ChipX86 | I probably said that already |
| 09:04.56 | CIA-3 | spacegrant: 03maccarro * r1017 10sandbox/cory/quaternion/ (. quaternion.py): preliminary quaternion support in python |
| 09:29.24 | purple_cow | bah, silly scanline closing the closet door so much |
| 09:29.43 | purple_cow | navi jumped a good 2 deg C |
| 09:50.09 | ChipX86 | hmm bed |
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| 16:27.29 | CIA-3 | openembedded: 03kergoth 07 * r1.3112.2.1 10openembedded/ (4 files in 2 dirs): Update the tslib build now that our patches are upstream. |
| 16:32.45 | kergoth | yay back to the future |
| 16:55.09 | kergoth | note to self: using chapstick with a lip piercing isnt easy |
| 16:55.13 | kergoth | morning purple_cow |
| 16:56.58 | file | kergoth: you had your lip pierced? |
| 16:57.59 | TD | kergoth: would you be interested in doing some apbuild/relaytool/binreloc hacking in future, by any chance? |
| 17:00.49 | kergoth | TD: actually yeah, I probably would, assuming I manage to find the time |
| 17:00.51 | kergoth | file: yep |
| 17:01.07 | kergoth | file: http://covenant.kergoth.com/images/self/chris5.jpg |
| 17:01.12 | TD | kergoth: cool. i drew up a list of improvements that could be made to it the other day |
| 17:01.24 | TD | most of them aren't too hard, but would make it a lot more useful |
| 17:01.33 | TD | they really need to be spun off into a separate project |
| 17:02.19 | file | kergoth: you're all scary now |
| 17:02.29 | TD | that's a pretty good photo |
| 17:02.33 | TD | camera to the mirror? |
| 17:02.41 | TD | no, held up |
| 17:02.47 | file | although your pic always scares me |
| 17:02.55 | kergoth | hah |
| 17:03.01 | file | you just seem like the cynical type |
| 17:03.10 | TD | lol |
| 17:04.34 | file | I could totally picture you going on a murder spree |
| 17:05.44 | file | I just picture kergoth as having both qualities |
| 17:05.58 | file | but alas, he is destined to murder code |
| 17:19.31 | darth_mall | bah... I don't have evince installed on yomiko |
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| 17:48.54 | kergoth | yay, tnt running all the back tot he future movies today |
| 17:50.49 | kergoth | ~logs |
| 17:50.50 | jbot | apt/ibot/jbot/purl all log to http://ibot.rikers.org/<channelname>/ where channelname is html encoded ie: %23debian | lines that start with a space are not shown | some channels have stats at http://ibot.rikers.org/stats/<channelname>.html.gz |
| 18:04.04 | purple_cow | well that would have been nice if people other than me could wake up |
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| 20:07.11 | hardwire | yeh |
| 20:07.16 | file | yes hardwire |
| 20:07.20 | hardwire | hi |
| 20:07.27 | file | no hardwire |
| 20:07.28 | hardwire | these sbc's are freaky |
| 20:07.39 | hardwire | I am going to have to put a relay on the RTC battery |
| 20:08.06 | hardwire | according to the manual it causes a time skew in the RTC just having the battery on |
| 20:08.07 | hardwire | yeh |
| 20:08.10 | hardwire | the hitachi phone is amazing |
| 20:08.20 | hardwire | its got up to 16 wireless profiles |
| 20:08.27 | hardwire | and 2 sip profiles |
| 20:08.28 | file | if I had my hands on one the wifi/presence would totally, like, work! |
| 20:08.33 | hardwire | w/ the ability to handle call waiting |
| 20:08.36 | file | er not wifi |
| 20:08.37 | file | messaging |
| 20:08.41 | hardwire | yeh |
| 20:08.45 | hardwire | it has presense and messaging |
| 20:08.47 | hardwire | neither work |
| 20:08.51 | hardwire | presence |
| 20:08.51 | hardwire | heh |
| 20:09.01 | hardwire | amazing phone |
| 20:09.20 | hardwire | the new i-mate coming out |
| 20:09.23 | hardwire | gsm/wifi |
| 20:09.23 | hardwire | pda |
| 20:09.28 | hardwire | that I could really use |
| 20:09.33 | hardwire | it has bloetooth as well |
| 20:09.33 | file | voip it! |
| 20:09.35 | hardwire | so.. hell |
| 20:09.37 | hardwire | well |
| 20:09.41 | hardwire | vonage voiped it |
| 20:09.54 | hardwire | but the xten guys can do their shit to it too |
| 20:10.06 | hardwire | there are no more messages |
| 20:10.08 | hardwire | shut the fuck up |
| 20:10.13 | file | lol |
| 20:10.28 | hardwire | I need to program it to look at a mailbox I think |
| 20:10.50 | hardwire | instead of sending mwi via sip |
| 20:11.02 | file | that may, or may not, work |
| 20:15.37 | hardwire | http://www.voip-info.org/tiki-index.php?page=Asterisk%20phone%20snom |
| 20:15.37 | hardwire | ugh |
| 20:15.38 | hardwire | oh well |
| 20:15.39 | hardwire | heh |
| 20:17.22 | hardwire | I bought the hitachi for $275.00 |
| 20:17.27 | file | nifty |
| 20:17.34 | hardwire | if you need me to resell you some |
| 20:17.43 | hardwire | I will probably charge $25.00 for shipping |
| 20:17.52 | hardwire | then you can get MWI working |
| 20:17.54 | file | can you get me one by Friday? |
| 20:17.54 | hardwire | err |
| 20:17.56 | hardwire | presense |
| 20:17.58 | hardwire | and so forth |
| 20:18.09 | hardwire | because I am going to be running asterisk in single codec mode on a geode 266 |
| 20:18.11 | hardwire | or SER |
| 20:18.14 | hardwire | matters on what can handle what |
| 20:18.33 | hardwire | which one? |
| 20:18.42 | hardwire | if you need more I have tons :) |
| 20:18.49 | file | I forget what it is... internally it's the Mambo board |
| 20:18.56 | hardwire | like.. I currently have 9 boards in my office |
| 20:19.19 | hardwire | mambo CMS? |
| 20:19.25 | file | but answer my question... can you get me the Hitachi by Friday? ;) |
| 20:19.31 | hardwire | yes |
| 20:19.54 | hardwire | I am going to make an order for 6 I think.. I can make that 7 then invoice you via paypal |
| 20:20.07 | hardwire | since we have a corporate paypal account set up |
| 20:20.10 | file | cause I leave for VON Sunday, and I'd like the phone by then |
| 20:20.10 | hardwire | or we can accept VISA |
| 20:20.14 | hardwire | well |
| 20:20.16 | hardwire | let me make it happen |
| 20:20.33 | hardwire | am I invoicing vc? |
| 20:20.38 | file | nah me personally |
| 20:20.56 | file | I've got enough in Paypal funds to pay for it, plus cover my bills |
| 20:21.15 | hardwire | ordered |
| 20:21.45 | file | good good |
| 20:21.51 | file | and if it isn't here by Friday, I'll hurt you! |
| 20:22.19 | hardwire | heh |
| 20:22.24 | hardwire | it should leave abp tech on monday |
| 20:22.33 | hardwire | I will have it direct shipped to you |
| 20:22.38 | hardwire | to make it easier. |
| 20:22.49 | hardwire | 2 day. |
| 20:22.55 | file | probably get me with taxes... but oh well |
| 20:23.00 | file | need my address? |
| 20:23.02 | hardwire | probably |
| 20:23.16 | file | what's your e-mail |
| 20:23.27 | hardwire | shane@tdxnet.com |
| 20:23.32 | file | kk |
| 20:23.35 | hardwire | kk |
| 20:23.35 | hardwire | k |
| 20:23.46 | hardwire | how do I send a sip message I wonder |
| 20:24.03 | file | sent |
| 20:24.18 | file | WELL the code in chan_sip for that now, well, it'll just end up creating a ghost channel |
| 20:24.36 | hardwire | but how |
| 20:24.41 | hardwire | from CLI |
| 20:24.47 | file | you can't send a message out from the CLI |
| 20:24.54 | file | 'nor can you receive messages, 'nor send them from the phone |
| 20:25.38 | file | hey Chip |
| 20:26.06 | hardwire | what about from an extension |
| 20:26.08 | ChipX86 | vhey |
| 20:26.13 | hardwire | dial 100 + sip command |
| 20:26.30 | file | hardwire: can't do anything with messaging really |
| 20:38.13 | ChipX86 | "I would prefer not to consume bovine lactose at any temperature." |
| 20:45.32 | ChipX86 | is there a scanline in the room? |
| 20:46.51 | ChipX86 | TD: with regard to the discussion going on in #g-h, MS is apparently taking the easy way out with their new X-Box :) They're running a modified Virtual PC on it |
| 20:47.11 | TD | haha, really? |
| 20:47.14 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 20:47.15 | TD | now we know why they bought it |
| 20:47.19 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 20:47.21 | TD | what i'd love to know is, why PPC at all? |
| 20:47.23 | TD | not intuitive choice |
| 20:47.24 | ChipX86 | they're devoting a lot of resources to it |
| 20:47.25 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 20:47.35 | ChipX86 | so I guess the new games wlil be native, but the old games will run on VPC |
| 20:47.48 | TD | that makes no sense |
| 20:47.52 | TD | PowerPC just isn't that fast |
| 20:48.00 | TD | if it was like 3x faster than the fastest x86 chip then yeah |
| 20:48.05 | TD | but as it is, old games will run dog slow |
| 20:48.11 | TD | unless it caches it on the hard disk or something |
| 20:48.23 | ChipX86 | you question Microsoft? All their decisions of late have been brilliant! |
| 20:48.59 | TD | hahahaha |
| 20:49.04 | TD | when you put it like that i see what you mean |
| 20:49.21 | TD | ChipX86: http://img95.exs.cx/img95/272/mozillaadware4vs.png |
| 20:49.24 | TD | ChipX86: real or fake? |
| 20:49.38 | ChipX86 | wow |
| 20:49.39 | ChipX86 | I hope fake |
| 20:49.46 | ChipX86 | is that publicly available yet? |
| 20:49.55 | TD | it is being passed around IRC |
| 20:49.57 | TD | it's gotta be fake |
| 20:50.00 | ChipX86 | I'd think so |
| 20:50.14 | ChipX86 | that would be a PR disaster |
| 20:50.27 | TD | yep |
| 20:50.29 | TD | even worse than blocking wine |
| 20:50.33 | ChipX86 | yep |
| 20:50.34 | TD | though i'm not sure they'd care |
| 20:50.46 | ChipX86 | surely you've noticed how blind MS has become lately |
| 20:50.50 | ChipX86 | and careless |
| 20:51.05 | ChipX86 | Longhorn will never happen in the way that they first thought |
| 20:51.14 | ChipX86 | it's going to be out of date before it gets here |
| 20:51.18 | kergoth | hmm |
| 20:51.26 | TD | i know |
| 20:51.26 | kergoth | now tha tmy desktop doesnt even boot, i'm really tempted to upgrade |
| 20:51.29 | TD | they really lost it |
| 20:51.33 | TD | dunno what happened to them |
| 20:51.44 | ChipX86 | they just got careless |
| 20:51.50 | ChipX86 | they got all defensive and decided to shut themselves in |
| 20:51.54 | ChipX86 | they won't work with anybody |
| 20:52.01 | TD | maybe |
| 20:52.04 | TD | i think they just lost their way |
| 20:52.09 | ChipX86 | there's a place in this world for Microsoft, if they want to work with others |
| 20:52.18 | TD | after XP came out and unified 98/NT they had no more real technical goals |
| 20:52.27 | TD | they seem to have succumbed to pie-in-the-sky dreaming |
| 20:52.36 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 20:52.51 | ChipX86 | the internal structure of the company is chaotic |
| 20:53.13 | ChipX86 | one of my co-workers at VMware who worked for my uncle in the past at Quarterdeck was until recently a manager at Microsoft |
| 20:53.41 | ChipX86 | the company works like several independent companies, all competing with each other. There were three different divisions working on competing media players, and Windows Media Player won out |
| 20:53.46 | ChipX86 | it's such a waste of resources |
| 20:53.53 | kergoth | wow |
| 20:53.54 | ChipX86 | the Office people won't let any other division look at their code |
| 20:53.54 | kergoth | what a mess |
| 20:54.02 | TD | yeah, i know |
| 20:54.06 | ChipX86 | which is why their widgets are different from every other product's |
| 20:54.30 | TD | the halloween memos commented that an office hacker who wanted to fix a windows bug would take *months* to get access to the source tree |
| 20:54.38 | ChipX86 | yep |
| 20:54.41 | TD | and yes office and visual studio have their own widget toolkit |
| 20:54.41 | ChipX86 | it's apparently true |
| 20:54.54 | TD | the original reason was because windows had hard limits on widgets that office would overflow |
| 20:54.59 | TD | stupid, stupid reason |
| 20:55.04 | ChipX86 | we talk about open sourcing MS apps.. people in the company can't even see all the code! :P |
| 20:55.09 | TD | rather than fix windows they just re-created the toolkit! |
| 20:55.13 | TD | lol |
| 20:56.01 | kergoth | heh, its amazing they've done as well as they have, if thats the case |
| 20:56.12 | ChipX86 | nod |
| 20:56.36 | TD | one annoying thing is their engineers live in a bubble world |
| 20:56.43 | ChipX86 | downloading the antispyware app |
| 20:56.46 | TD | i've lost track of how many times ray chen has said "This is a bad API". why? |
| 20:56.55 | TD | because if you are writing aggressively multi-threaded code there could be a race condition |
| 20:57.02 | TD | hello world: not everybody writes thread safe code all day, every day |
| 20:57.11 | TD | ChipX86: yeah, see what happens |
| 20:57.19 | TD | i tried to install it on wine, but it's checking for IE6 in a way i've not seen before |
| 20:57.54 | TD | ChipX86: it's kinda sad we're all wondering if it's fake or not |
| 20:58.07 | TD | ChipX86: if it is, it's very well done. most haxied shots i see are fairly obvious |
| 20:58.08 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 20:58.16 | TD | photoshop style antialiasing in places where there shouldn't be any |
| 20:58.23 | ChipX86 | turning off auto-updates so they can't fix it if it is in the beta |
| 20:58.25 | TD | ChipX86: oh, he said it's fake |
| 20:58.30 | ChipX86 | aww |
| 20:58.37 | ChipX86 | just now? |
| 20:58.52 | TD | check #g-h |
| 20:59.10 | ChipX86 | hah |
| 20:59.23 | ChipX86 | it did find TightVNC :P |
| 20:59.36 | TD | really? |
| 20:59.37 | ChipX86 | yep |
| 20:59.38 | TD | wacky |
| 20:59.47 | TD | why is it searching for VNC apps? the screenshot shows realvnc too ... |
| 21:00.01 | ChipX86 | remote control. "trojan" |
| 21:00.36 | TD | that check is going to trigger on like every corporate desktop in the world |
| 21:00.49 | ChipX86 | yep |
| 21:01.08 | TD | http://news.com.com/Trojan+attacks+Microsofts+anti-spyware/2100-7349_3-5569429.html?part=rss&tag=5569429&subj=news.7349.20 |
| 21:01.09 | TD | that's sad |
| 21:01.15 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 21:02.48 | ChipX86 | found RealVNC |
| 21:02.56 | ChipX86 | so far, it's found two things ;) |
| 21:04.43 | ChipX86 | TD: by default, it's on Ignore, and says it's usually legit but make sure you wanted it on there |
| 21:06.18 | ChipX86 | The Maxtor Ultra16 250GB IDE 7200 rpm hard drive with 16MB cache, model no. L01R250, costs $99.99 at CompUSA.com. |
| 21:07.33 | kergoth | nice |
| 21:08.57 | scanline | ChipX86: pong |
| 21:09.04 | ChipX86 | scanline: what do you think of the Rio so far? |
| 21:09.10 | ChipX86 | going to write up a review on my blog I think |
| 21:09.39 | TD | ChipX86: what else has it found |
| 21:09.43 | TD | ChipX86: oh ok, that sounds fair enough then |
| 21:09.45 | ChipX86 | RealVNC and TightVNC |
| 21:09.59 | TD | ah |
| 21:10.15 | ChipX86 | this system actually keeps clean. It's behind a firewall, runs firefox, and the HTPC software |
| 21:10.35 | kergoth | hah, that new movie with vin diesel and the kids looks funny |
| 21:10.57 | ChipX86 | breakfast time |
| 21:11.40 | scanline | ChipX86: I like it. The ethernet is a bit flaky in establishing a connection, but I haven't found any other problems. The UI isn't amazing, but it's quite usable. Sound quality seems indistinguishable from an SB Live on good speakers |
| 21:12.03 | scanline | the RMML java goop works well, and since the protocol is now documented I'm looking forward to gnome-vfs support :) |
| 21:12.19 | hardwire | heh |
| 21:12.20 | hardwire | hmm |
| 21:12.22 | scanline | it's a little bigger than I'd hoped, but still not too big |
| 21:12.32 | kergoth | hmm. $1103.95 for this xpc. athlon 64 3400+, radeon 9600xt, 200 gig hd, 1 gig ram |
| 21:12.43 | kergoth | anyone have any experience with the shuttle products? opinions? |
| 21:12.53 | hardwire | http://www.emrkt.com/atomic_clock/exec.html#exec |
| 21:12.55 | hardwire | yay |
| 21:12.56 | scanline | kergoth: purple_cow has a bunch of them and likes them lots |
| 21:12.58 | hardwire | now I have a time source |
| 21:13.18 | kergoth | i think i'll take my current desktop and turn it into a fileserver. replace the raid controller, get a few more drives |
| 21:13.22 | kergoth | pick up the shuttle as a new workstation |
| 21:13.32 | ChipX86 | the protocol is documented? |
| 21:13.58 | scanline | ChipX86: http://karmalib.sourceforge.net/docs/protocol.php |
| 21:14.14 | ChipX86 | what was I wasting my time for? :P |
| 21:14.19 | ChipX86 | guess there's no reason to write libriokarma |
| 21:14.21 | scanline | huh. I thought you found that |
| 21:14.27 | scanline | well, that library is currently only java |
| 21:14.29 | ChipX86 | I was using ethereal |
| 21:14.31 | ChipX86 | oh |
| 21:14.32 | scanline | but they have a C# version in the works |
| 21:14.38 | scanline | and a C version planned |
| 21:14.38 | ChipX86 | I want a C lib |
| 21:14.45 | scanline | so write the C lib and put it in their CVS :) |
| 21:15.00 | hardwire | http://www.ntp-time-server.com/wwvb-receiver/wwvb-receiver.htm |
| 21:15.02 | hardwire | SEXY! |
| 21:15.14 | hardwire | I don't think WWVB signals can be recieved where I need them however |
| 21:16.41 | ChipX86 | hmm, then I'd have to maintain it.. :) |
| 21:17.00 | ChipX86 | well, cool, I didn't want to figure out the auth process myself |
| 21:17.10 | scanline | ChipX86: a C lib for that using gnet would be quite easy :) |
| 21:17.15 | scanline | yay gnet |
| 21:18.07 | scanline | yay ogg support! |
| 21:18.23 | ChipX86 | yeah, same |
| 21:18.26 | ChipX86 | it's really nice |
| 21:18.30 | scanline | :) |
| 21:18.47 | scanline | I should get some headphones with the little around-the-ear clips though, like the ones jen has |
| 21:18.54 | scanline | these fall out too easily |
| 21:18.55 | ChipX86 | that's what I use |
| 21:19.07 | scanline | though the ones that it came with sound pretty good |
| 21:19.14 | kergoth | the ones i bought havent fallen out yet, no clips |
| 21:19.24 | scanline | kergoth: you have BIG EARS! |
| 21:19.27 | kergoth | hehe |
| 21:19.30 | scanline | :) |
| 21:19.32 | kergoth | libX11 wont build for me today :( |
| 21:19.53 | scanline | hmm.. I think I got some of those headphones a while back. Wonder if the sound quality sucks... |
| 21:20.02 | scanline | I think I paid about $6 for them at some music store in Denver :P |
| 21:20.25 | ChipX86 | I can't say I love how you list files and stuff |
| 21:20.38 | ChipX86 | I wanted to do something neat like have a set of directories for artists, albums, genres, etc |
| 21:20.47 | kergoth | ChipX86: does it support m3u playlists or something? |
| 21:20.51 | scanline | it'd be nice if I could just have it preserve navi's directory tree |
| 21:20.58 | ChipX86 | but every time you go to any of them, it'd have to grab every single file's info |
| 21:21.01 | ChipX86 | kergoth: yeah |
| 21:21.06 | ChipX86 | but I'm tlaking about for a fs driver |
| 21:21.10 | kergoth | ahh right |
| 21:21.19 | scanline | ah |
| 21:21.32 | kergoth | cant implement a cache of some sort? |
| 21:21.32 | kergoth | heh |
| 21:21.35 | ChipX86 | could |
| 21:21.41 | ChipX86 | but how do you know things haven't changed? :) |
| 21:22.22 | ChipX86 | you could theoretically call Get Storage Details and return the number of files and the highest file ID |
| 21:22.29 | ChipX86 | but the docs here say the karma doesn't implement those |
| 21:22.33 | ChipX86 | they always return 0 |
| 21:23.00 | ChipX86 | could just lock the device the whole time it's mounted |
| 21:23.15 | scanline | it wouldn't be foolproof, but if the amount of free space changes it would be a good indication to invalidate the cache |
| 21:23.16 | ChipX86 | I guess that's what we have to do |
| 21:23.27 | ChipX86 | I think that's what the applet does anyway |
| 21:23.31 | scanline | yeah |
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| 21:33.23 | ChipX86 | hey Cae |
| 21:33.33 | Cae | hey |
| 21:33.39 | Cae | kergoth: poke |
| 21:36.19 | Cae | you should come to condfw :P |
| 21:38.11 | kergoth | heh, where is it, and whats there? /me has never been to such a con |
| 21:38.32 | Cae | it's in the radisson hotel in dallas |
| 21:38.57 | Cae | there are speakers, a dealers room, alcohol, art, and random people |
| 21:39.12 | Cae | we're going to order pizza sometime before 7 too |
| 21:40.07 | ChipX86 | condfw == ? |
| 21:40.15 | Cae | Trip's here, and a bunch of cepheids. and sharp objects from lazy dragon |
| 21:40.21 | Cae | www.condfw.org |
| 21:40.28 | Cae | iirc |
| 21:40.34 | kergoth | 6.7 mi (about 9 mins) |
| 21:40.35 | kergoth | heh. |
| 21:40.35 | ChipX86 | cool |
| 21:40.38 | kergoth | didnt realize it was that close |
| 21:40.39 | ChipX86 | that'd be fun to go to |
| 21:41.26 | Cae | it's small, but eh |
| 21:41.39 | Cae | bring a laptop - wireless in the lobby/by the bar |
| 21:42.10 | ChipX86 | it'd be neat to just take a plane over to texas and attend.. |
| 21:42.28 | Cae | hehe |
| 21:42.52 | Cae | feel free |
| 21:42.59 | ChipX86 | kinda doubt that would work well |
| 21:43.54 | scanline | if there was only something between us... other than our clothes |
| 21:45.08 | Cae | :P |
| 21:46.34 | Cae | we're in the lobby/bar area right now. old dell, tall guy. small ibook, short me. |
| 21:49.29 | Cae | we = Trip and me |
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| 21:53.24 | ChipX86 | awww |
| 21:53.28 | ChipX86 | The host your Linode is on has the following extras available |
| 21:53.31 | ChipX86 | Additional RAM 0 MB |
| 21:53.52 | ChipX86 | RAM is expensive |
| 21:54.50 | Cae | *sigh* looking for another laptop |
| 21:55.16 | Samy | Quantum Leap! |
| 21:55.19 | Samy | I used to love that show. |
| 21:55.55 | Cae | it's great |
| 21:59.14 | kergoth | Cae: alright, i'm gonna head over. barring me getting lost, i'll be there in a bit |
| 21:59.37 | Cae | lol, k |
| 21:59.42 | Cae | now there are four laptops |
| 22:00.05 | kergoth | purple_cow: fyi, more saint etienne is on the way from ubernet. keeping an eye out for the other requests |
| 22:03.29 | scanline | ChipX86: you need more RAM already? |
| 22:03.37 | ChipX86 | nah, I was just looking at it |
| 22:03.41 | scanline | ah |
| 22:03.54 | file | ChipX86 already stole all the available RAM |
| 22:04.08 | ChipX86 | yep. I have a gigabyte! |
| 22:04.19 | scanline | ooh cool |
| 22:04.23 | scanline | Nat's GROPE project is neat |
| 22:06.04 | TD | scanline: i'd disagree actually |
| 22:06.17 | TD | even if it was maintained, doing that sort of stuff at runtime on the users system is a bad idea |
| 22:06.35 | TD | it's really the sort of tool developers should use when optimising their own programs/binaries |
| 22:06.48 | TD | but grope isn't designed for that |
| 22:07.40 | scanline | I didn't say it was practical, just neat :P |
| 22:08.05 | TD | heh |
| 22:08.10 | TD | well ok. it's neat :) |
| 22:10.57 | ChipX86 | how do you keep sshd from timing out a connection after inactivity? |
| 22:12.15 | file | that never happens to me my dear Chip |
| 22:12.58 | scanline | how do you keep mysqld from timing out a connection after inactivity? |
| 22:13.23 | file | use sqlite instead, problem solved *G* |
| 22:13.38 | ChipX86 | http://www.freakysoft.de/html/libkarma/ |
| 22:14.18 | scanline | neat |
| 22:14.40 | scanline | ahh.. I knew I saw the names of those command line tools before |
| 22:14.42 | scanline | so that's where |
| 22:15.10 | scanline | kinda sucks that they don't use version control, at least not publicly :P |
| 22:16.25 | ChipX86 | yeah. |
| 22:16.44 | scanline | but looks like a good starting point, and it's GPL'ed |
| 22:17.22 | scanline | and I should crimp that extra ethernet cable going into my room.. I still have one running across the floor into navi's closet |
| 22:37.37 | purple_cow | well that was fun and cool :) |
| 22:38.18 | TD | ChipX86: if you find out let me know |
| 22:38.40 | TD | ChipX86: i *hate* that |
| 22:38.40 | ChipX86 | TD: me too |
| 22:38.40 | ChipX86 | some servers don't do it, but I don't know what the difference is |
| 22:39.58 | TD | is karmalib.sf.net run by the rio karma people? |
| 22:40.10 | TD | oh |
| 22:40.13 | TD | no it's not :( |
| 22:40.16 | TD | <sigh> |
| 22:41.10 | scanline | heh |
| 22:41.14 | scanline | so I had a weird idea in the shower |
| 22:41.19 | ChipX86 | you expected otherwise? :P |
| 22:41.27 | scanline | some people on the rio forums reported better ethernet stability when using a really long cable |
| 22:41.35 | scanline | it could be they screwed up the termination or the isolation transformer |
| 22:41.49 | scanline | I might be able to fix it by adding a termination resistor in the cable, as near as possible to the dock |
| 22:43.11 | ChipX86 | hate my neighbors |
| 22:49.10 | purple_cow | ooh, scandalous |
| 22:49.18 | ChipX86 | libkarma's API sucks |
| 22:49.20 | purple_cow | the nfs server doesn't want me to watch that anime, apparently |
| 22:49.45 | ChipX86 | they've never heard of namespaces |
| 22:50.01 | scanline | huh |
| 22:50.03 | scanline | Event: '/media/video/series' reported 'Firefly' 'deleted' |
| 22:50.03 | scanline | Event: '/media/video/series' reported 'Futurama' 'deleted' |
| 22:50.03 | scanline | Event: '/media/video/series' reported 'Kung_Fu' 'deleted' |
| 22:50.03 | scanline | Event: '/media/video/series' reported 'Spaced' 'deleted' |
| 22:50.08 | scanline | were you moving things, or is that all bogus? |
| 22:50.40 | ChipX86 | scanline: have you tried the Rio Taxi thing? |
| 22:50.44 | scanline | not yet |
| 22:50.56 | ChipX86 | I was wondering if it had any kind of directory structure, but I doubt it |
| 22:52.27 | purple_cow | scanline: when were those events? |
| 22:52.37 | *** join/#tacobeam samyb (~samy@212.76.88.119) |
| 22:52.37 | scanline | dunno. I should probably add timestamps to that log :P |
| 22:52.48 | file | yay! timestamps! |
| 22:53.30 | purple_cow | scanline: those *might* have been when i was moving things, but i dunno |
| 22:53.41 | purple_cow | oh no! wasabi doesn't have matroska support! |
| 22:58.07 | ChipX86 | yay Back to the Future |
| 23:01.24 | purple_cow | scanline: you remind me of the babe |
| 23:04.21 | scanline | yay |
| 23:04.36 | scanline | audio quality with the rio on my spiffy Altec Lansing speakers is great |
| 23:05.31 | purple_cow | scanline: wrong answer |
| 23:05.36 | purple_cow | you're supposed to ask "what babe?" |
| 23:06.26 | purple_cow | ahh |
| 23:06.30 | purple_cow | hmm, wow |
| 23:06.43 | purple_cow | there's a lot of stuff i didn't notice in this soundtrack that i'm hearing on wasabi's sound system =D |
| 23:10.33 | purple_cow | ChipX86 needs to be more like a muppet |
| 23:10.41 | ChipX86 | yeah :( |
| 23:11.38 | purple_cow | but i forgive you, because you made such an awesome chicken |
| 23:12.47 | ChipX86 | :) |
| 23:17.47 | CIA-3 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r7096 10xchat-gnome/fe-gnome/ (fe-gnome.c textgui.c): add fe_open_url and change textgui to call it. in the process, make showing urls give a proper error dialog if something went wrong |
| 23:19.25 | scanline | hahaha |
| 23:19.36 | scanline | so if I plug in the rio using a normal cable, the ethernet often doesn't work |
| 23:19.59 | scanline | but it seems to be working farirly consistently with an ugly spliced-together cable that I haven't soldered yet |
| 23:24.14 | purple_cow | hehe |
| 23:25.04 | scanline | http://10.0.0.80/ |
| 23:26.56 | ChipX86 | heh. I love how in the Stargate movie, Abydos is on the other site of the known universe, but in SG-1, it's near Earth |
| 23:27.10 | ChipX86 | planetary shift? |
| 23:27.13 | scanline | ChipX86: that's the expanding universe theory for you... |
| 23:27.21 | scanline | thank you, I'm here all night... |
| 23:27.29 | ChipX86 | sounds like it's collapsing :) |
| 23:27.38 | scanline | nah, they have time travel too |
| 23:32.32 | ChipX86 | heh |
| 23:32.36 | ChipX86 | I'm in #vmware |
| 23:32.47 | ChipX86 | they want to know why the beta is expiring March 15th |
| 23:34.07 | ChipX86 | 15:33:49 < cuti> ChipX86, vmware is too expensive |
| 23:34.07 | ChipX86 | 15:33:56 < ChipX86> cuti: I'll get right on that |
| 23:34.30 | scanline | heh |
| 23:34.53 | scanline | well vmware is still selling pretty well isn't it? |
| 23:35.07 | scanline | if so, it isn't too expensive for its real customers :P |
| 23:35.19 | scanline | ooh neat |
| 23:35.20 | ChipX86 | it's selling *very* well |
| 23:35.21 | scanline | the Karma runs eCos |
| 23:35.25 | ChipX86 | yea |
| 23:36.08 | purple_cow | apparently my mom's department just started testing a new pbx product that uses vmware |
| 23:36.30 | ChipX86 | cool |
| 23:37.17 | ChipX86 | silly users |
| 23:37.18 | scanline | ooh |
| 23:37.19 | scanline | http://www.ictoadd.com/gallery/karma |
| 23:37.33 | ChipX86 | hah |
| 23:37.56 | ChipX86 | I don't plan to take mine apart any time soon :) |
| 23:38.03 | scanline | same |
| 23:38.09 | scanline | glad someone else did it though |
| 23:38.14 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 23:38.43 | scanline | but it looks like the battery and hard disk shouldn't be that hard to replace |
| 23:38.48 | scanline | easier than replacing an ibook hard disk I'm sure |
| 23:40.07 | CIA-3 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r7097 10xchat-gnome/fe-gnome/textgui.c: no need to use markup there |
| 23:40.15 | scanline | of course, there isn't a whole lot harder than replacing an ibook hard disk.. other than replacing an ibook LCD cable |
| 23:40.24 | CIA-3 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r7098 10xchat-gnome/fe-gnome/BUGS: found a bug! found a bug! it's lurgy's fault! |
| 23:40.31 | ChipX86 | there isn't a whole lot easier than replacing a thinkpad harddrive |
| 23:40.37 | purple_cow | ChipX86: =D |
| 23:41.04 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 23:41.35 | purple_cow | it's so nice to have a laptop that's well designed |
| 23:41.44 | ChipX86 | it's hard to get the motivation to write this gnome-vfs module |
| 23:41.48 | ChipX86 | mostly because of the learning curve |
| 23:42.50 | purple_cow | ChipX86: http://www.imendio.com/articles/gnomevfs-modules/ |
| 23:43.21 | ChipX86 | oh cool |
| 23:44.05 | scanline | hmm! |
| 23:44.34 | ChipX86 | I want to get a galago release out |
| 23:46.20 | hardwire | I love multimeters |
| 23:46.36 | hardwire | this geode wrap board is taking a pummeling fon one of its wireless interfaces |
| 23:46.56 | hardwire | the multimeter is inline with the 6v/5Ah battery |
| 23:47.16 | hardwire | its only drawing 0.710A on average |
| 23:47.21 | hardwire | the multimeter can average :) |
| 23:47.29 | scanline | which meter is it? |
| 23:47.37 | hardwire | I just bought a fluke 179 |
| 23:47.41 | scanline | yay |
| 23:47.45 | scanline | that's the same one I have |
| 23:47.48 | hardwire | yeh |
| 23:47.48 | scanline | great meter |
| 23:47.52 | hardwire | so far |
| 23:47.57 | hardwire | I killed the ping flood |
| 23:48.02 | hardwire | its on avg 0.671A |
| 23:48.05 | hardwire | amazing stuff |
| 23:48.11 | hardwire | it should last 8 hours on this single battery |
| 23:48.24 | hardwire | if I double it up with another 6v battery |
| 23:48.25 | scanline | the min/max mode on that thing is great, since it can catch spikes that only last nanoseconds |
| 23:48.28 | hardwire | so that its 12/5ah |
| 23:48.36 | hardwire | it seems like the dc/dc on the board has less of a hard time |
| 23:48.45 | hardwire | it only draws 0.312ah |
| 23:48.47 | hardwire | err |
| 23:48.50 | hardwire | 0.312A |
| 23:48.53 | hardwire | at 12V |
| 23:48.55 | hardwire | which is nice |
| 23:49.02 | hardwire | so I will be using 12V for this |
| 23:49.21 | hardwire | scanline: yeh.. it beeps |
| 23:49.27 | hardwire | is that whenever it sets a new max? |
| 23:49.38 | scanline | might be more useful to compare the power rather than the current, so you can see the converter's efficiency at various voltages |
| 23:49.39 | scanline | yeah |
| 23:49.53 | hardwire | this geode 266 is runngin asterisk |
| 23:49.56 | hardwire | running asterisk |
| 23:49.57 | hardwire | heh |
| 23:50.06 | hardwire | and is routing 4 GSM calls just fine |
| 23:50.18 | ChipX86 | libkarma sucks :) |
| 23:50.24 | hardwire | scanline: what do you mean |
| 23:50.31 | CIA-3 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r7099 10xchat-gnome/fe-gnome/ROADMAP: split 0.4 into two releases, one for features and one for bug/behavior fixes |
| 23:50.39 | scanline | hardwire: look at the number of watts going in and going out of the converter |
| 23:50.43 | scanline | hardwire: then calculate the efficiency |
| 23:50.44 | ChipX86 | so tempted to write my own lib |
| 23:50.48 | hardwire | compare the converters current draw at different voltagaes |
| 23:50.48 | scanline | hardwire: compare that as you change input voltages |
| 23:50.49 | scanline | ChipX86: yeah |
| 23:50.55 | scanline | hardwire: power, not current |
| 23:50.55 | ChipX86 | it feels like duplicated effort |
| 23:50.57 | ChipX86 | but ugh, this sucks |
| 23:51.00 | hardwire | then what? |
| 23:51.03 | ChipX86 | I htink I'll fork that one |
| 23:51.09 | hardwire | how quickly it depletes a battery? |
| 23:51.29 | scanline | hardwire: no. measure the power in to the converter and out of the converter.. calculate the efficiency... exactly what I just said above |
| 23:51.37 | hardwire | I can't |
| 23:51.40 | scanline | hardwire: why not? |
| 23:51.41 | hardwire | its on an SBC |
| 23:51.55 | scanline | can't break out the output pins somehow? |
| 23:52.02 | purple_cow | anyone here running debian? |
| 23:52.02 | hardwire | no |
| 23:52.05 | hardwire | yes |
| 23:52.24 | purple_cow | hardwire: care to check to see if fyre is in apt yet? :) |
| 23:52.26 | scanline | hardwire: well, your next best bet would be to keep the machine idle so the output current is constant, then find the input voltage that causes it to draw the least power |
| 23:52.31 | hardwire | scanline: but what do you mean.. measure the output voltage from the dc/dc converter? |
| 23:52.46 | hardwire | scanline: well.. so far 12v is more than enough |
| 23:52.57 | scanline | it's not about giving it *enough* voltage |
| 23:52.57 | scanline | it |
| 23:53.02 | scanline | it's about understanding its efficiency |
| 23:53.11 | hardwire | I wish I understood :) |
| 23:53.22 | scanline | current means squat in this context, you need to calculate power |
| 23:53.27 | hardwire | ok |
| 23:53.28 | hardwire | so |
| 23:53.39 | hardwire | I can actually take a measurement off of the DC port on this SBC |
| 23:53.41 | hardwire | because its PoE |
| 23:54.08 | hardwire | but I am unsure if it is effected by the DC/DC |
| 23:54.11 | hardwire | I doubt it |
| 23:54.16 | scanline | it shouldn't be |
| 23:54.18 | hardwire | since that would be stupid |
| 23:54.19 | hardwire | but |
| 23:54.28 | hardwire | there are +%v pinouts on this board for LPC/etc.. |
| 23:54.39 | hardwire | +5 :) |
| 23:54.41 | scanline | I'm just telling you how you find a converter's efficiency.. I'm sure that under normal use the output voltage wouldn't change noticeably |
| 23:54.56 | hardwire | thats my assumption as well |
| 23:55.09 | scanline | if you can't measure the output current though, you just have to hold it constant and look at the power draw changes, since you can't actually measure converter efficiency |
| 23:55.14 | hardwire | but why would it make a difference if I fed it 6V vs 12V on current ? |
| 23:55.31 | scanline | theoretically it will draw twice the current at 6V |
| 23:55.42 | hardwire | if its a DC/DC that needs +12V right? |
| 23:55.49 | scanline | that doesn't matter |
| 23:55.49 | hardwire | err.. needs to output +12V |
| 23:55.54 | hardwire | ok |
| 23:56.07 | hardwire | well.. its basically 2x the draw at 6V |
| 23:56.10 | scanline | it's like a transformer- the power output must be <= the power input |
| 23:56.12 | hardwire | than at 12v |
| 23:56.16 | scanline | but voltage and current are interchangeable |
| 23:56.21 | scanline | right |
| 23:56.27 | hardwire | err |
| 23:56.30 | hardwire | gimme a sec.. |
| 23:56.44 | hardwire | so even if I double up the 6v batteries |
| 23:56.49 | hardwire | in parralel |
| 23:57.00 | hardwire | it doubles the life of the cell set |
| 23:57.05 | hardwire | err rather |
| 23:57.09 | hardwire | doubles the length the board can run |
| 23:57.16 | scanline | eh, you've got to worry about the converter's efficiency as the input voltage gets that low |
| 23:57.20 | hardwire | if I throw a 12V with the same Ah |
| 23:57.26 | hardwire | its the same runtime |
| 23:57.31 | hardwire | because its also twice the voltage |
| 23:57.37 | scanline | theoretically as the input voltage approaches zero the input current will approach infinity |
| 23:57.43 | scanline | so all real converters shut down at some nonzero voltage |
| 23:57.44 | hardwire | hey |
| 23:57.48 | hardwire | that sounds perpetual |
| 23:57.50 | hardwire | lets do that |
| 23:58.23 | scanline | make sure you check the min/max voltage specs on that converter |
| 23:58.27 | hardwire | I see what you are saying |
| 23:58.31 | scanline | k |
| 23:58.38 | hardwire | scanline: so far its +5 to 48v |
| 23:58.39 | scanline | also, you have to be more careful with batteries when they're in parallel |
| 23:58.47 | scanline | heh |
| 23:58.53 | scanline | you don't want to use a 6V battery then |
| 23:58.53 | hardwire | not tested |
| 23:58.58 | hardwire | just in the spec |
| 23:59.04 | scanline | at the battery's end of life it might be lower than 5V |
| 23:59.12 | hardwire | scanline: yeh |
| 23:59.18 | hardwire | the EOL on 12V is around 10V |
| 23:59.32 | hardwire | well ont hese batteries |
| 23:59.46 | scanline | usually you use the 75% rule for battery voltage, IIRC |
| 23:59.57 | hardwire | ok |
