| 00:00.29 | Laser_Dolphin | greetings pagefault |
| 00:02.33 | purple_cow | hmm, apparently light is just another form of heat |
| 00:04.40 | purple_cow | yay for campy science fiction |
| 00:05.25 | ChipX86 | transferring all these songs to the rio takes a while over usb using vmware |
| 00:05.32 | kergoth | heh |
| 00:06.01 | ChipX86 | or perhaps it's partially because DMA isn't enabled on this drive. I should fix that tonight |
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| 00:06.15 | Laser_D | s |
| 00:16.12 | CIA-3 | openembedded: 03kergoth 07 * r1.3117 10openembedded/conf/bitbake.conf: Fix infodir, mandir, and docdir variables to be relative to datadir, not prefix, and fix FILES_${PN}-doc to reference docdir rather than datadir/doc. |
| 00:16.59 | pagefault | hmm |
| 00:17.04 | pagefault | looks like google is trying to take on imdb |
| 00:17.37 | purple_cow | oh? |
| 00:18.00 | pagefault | they launched their own thing called google movies |
| 00:18.07 | CIA-3 | openembedded: 03kergoth 07 * r1.3118 10openembedded/classes/ (native.bbclass cross.bbclass): Path adjustments in cross and native bbclasses per the previous cset. |
| 00:18.08 | Laser_D | w00t! |
| 00:18.09 | pagefault | http://www.google.com/reviews?cid=b9b3337d997e787f |
| 00:18.15 | CIA-3 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r7070 10xchat-gnome/fe-gnome/irc-network-editor.c: set size group, do dialog_run more intelligently to handle the apply button |
| 00:18.21 | purple_cow | cool |
| 00:18.59 | pagefault | it looks like it gets reviews off the web though |
| 00:19.03 | pagefault | rather than people writing them |
| 00:19.08 | pagefault | and shows you the average rating |
| 00:19.08 | ChipX86 | and newsgroups |
| 00:19.12 | pagefault | thats very cool |
| 00:19.17 | Laser_Dolphin | 11 whole pages of BS! |
| 00:19.19 | ChipX86 | rec.arts.movies.reviews |
| 00:19.36 | Laser_Dolphin | Good nigth |
| 00:19.41 | Laser_Dolphin | s/nigth/night |
| 00:19.52 | purple_cow | pagefault: well, yeah. seems like if google can take advantage of data that's already available, they will |
| 00:21.22 | CIA-3 | openembedded: 03kergoth 07 * r1.3119 10openembedded/ (10 files in 3 dirs): |
| 00:21.22 | CIA-3 | openembedded: Add gnupg 1.4.0, consolidate common metadata into gnupg.inc, include some of the |
| 00:21.22 | CIA-3 | openembedded: gnupg doc files in ${docdir}/${PN}/. Build 1.4.0 with readline support. Need |
| 00:21.22 | CIA-3 | openembedded: to revisit what gnupg features we are compiling in, and perhaps disable some |
| 00:21.22 | CIA-3 | openembedded: things to shrink the binary, and/or use the "minimal" configure option. |
| 00:30.06 | purple_cow | what catchy theme music... |
| 00:30.28 | kergoth | whee, gnupg 1.9.x has an assload more deps |
| 00:30.30 | kergoth | its changed a lot |
| 00:42.13 | CIA-3 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r7071 10xchat-gnome/fe-gnome/irc-network.c: fix server list population |
| 00:51.27 | CIA-3 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r7072 10xchat-gnome/fe-gnome/ (3 files): add 'edit' buttons in the lists, just to make it a little more obvious how to change entries |
| 00:53.28 | purple_cow | silly darth_mall, being antisocial |
| 01:02.47 | darth_mall | wow... I'm even having trouble typing now... |
| 01:06.28 | darth_mall | oh my god, I've gone completely brain dead... |
| 01:06.51 | darth_mall | why, in a userspace threading library, does a blocking thread cause the entire process to block? |
| 01:08.24 | purple_cow | because it's more fun that way? |
| 01:09.27 | darth_mall | hmm... I -could- put that in my hw, but I doubt it would get me many points |
| 01:20.14 | CIA-3 | openembedded: 03kergoth 07 * r1.3122 10openembedded/packages/libgpg-error/ (4 files in 2 dirs): Add libgpg-error 1.0 (required by gnupg 0.9.15) and make the libgpg-error .bb's inherit binconfig. |
| 01:20.17 | CIA-3 | openembedded: 03kergoth 07 * r1.3121 10openembedded/packages/libgcrypt/ (libgcrypt_1.2.1.bb libgcrypt_1.2.0.bb libgcrypt_1.1.91.bb): Add libgcrypt 1.2.1 and make the libgcrypt .bb's inherit binconfig. |
| 01:20.19 | CIA-3 | openembedded: 03kergoth 07 * r1.3120 10openembedded/packages/libassuan/ (libassuan_0.6.7.bb libassuan_0.6.9.bb): Add libassuan 0.6.9 (required by gnupg 0.9.15) and make the libassuan .bb's inherit binconfig. |
| 01:23.47 | CIA-3 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r7073 10xchat-gnome/fe-gnome/irc-network-editor.c: rearrange code a bit |
| 01:24.21 | CIA-3 | openembedded: 03kergoth 07 * r1.3123 10openembedded/packages/gnupg/ (gnupg-devel.inc gnupg.inc gnupg-devel_1.9.15.bb): (log message trimmed) |
| 01:24.21 | CIA-3 | openembedded: Add a development version of gnupg (version 1.9.15) as gnupg-devel. |
| 01:24.21 | CIA-3 | openembedded: Note that the 'gpgsm' and 'scdaemon' binaries are not currently being |
| 01:24.21 | CIA-3 | openembedded: built, due to the additional dependencies they introduce. If you need |
| 01:24.21 | CIA-3 | openembedded: them, let me know. |
| 01:24.23 | CIA-3 | openembedded: One issue that needs to be fixed is that the gnupg-devel build needs to |
| 01:24.25 | CIA-3 | openembedded: prefix or postfix its binaries, or conflict with 'gnupg', to ensure |
| 01:26.04 | CIA-3 | openembedded: 03kergoth 07 * r1.3124 10openembedded/classes/ (rootfs_ipk.bbclass image_ipk.bbclass): Fix the ipk rootfs/image classes to use ${libdir}/ipkg, now that ipkg does so as well. |
| 01:28.18 | darth_mall | purple_cow: as long as you're pokin' around in x-g, wanna try and figger out why get_navigation_tree is an undefined symbol in the notification plugin? ^^ |
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| 01:32.03 | Cae | bah |
| 01:32.07 | Cae | ChipX86: poke |
| 01:32.30 | Cae | oh well. |
| 01:32.37 | kergoth | heh |
| 01:33.02 | CIA-3 | openembedded: 03kergoth 07 * r1.3125 10openembedded/packages/gnupg/ (gnupg2_1.9.15.bb gnupg2.inc): |
| 01:33.03 | CIA-3 | openembedded: Rename gnupg-devel to gnupg2, since this development branch has the binaries |
| 01:33.03 | CIA-3 | openembedded: postfixed that way, so is clearly for the upcoming 2.x stable release. Also |
| 01:33.03 | CIA-3 | openembedded: change libexecdir from /usr/libexec to /usr/libexec/gnupg2, as it was |
| 01:33.03 | CIA-3 | openembedded: resulting in the gnupg binaries ending up in the root of /usr/libexec, rather |
| 01:33.04 | CIA-3 | openembedded: than by packagename. |
| 01:34.48 | pagefault | clean as a whistle |
| 01:35.10 | kergoth | i love adding things to oe that debian doesnt have |
| 01:35.16 | kergoth | thereby making my pda more up to date than my desktop |
| 01:35.28 | pagefault | one word |
| 01:35.29 | pagefault | ubuntu |
| 01:35.33 | darth_mall | hehe |
| 01:35.35 | kergoth | yeah, one of these days.. |
| 01:35.46 | kergoth | though i bet oe is still ahead of ubuntu too, at least itd be closer |
| 01:35.47 | darth_mall | kergoth: I sympathize |
| 01:35.50 | purple_cow | hmm, the way they're giving functions to plugins is a complete pita |
| 01:36.03 | darth_mall | purple_cow: hmm? |
| 01:36.16 | darth_mall | purple_cow: in xchat? |
| 01:37.04 | purple_cow | uhhuh |
| 01:37.52 | pagefault | so useful |
| 01:38.00 | darth_mall | eep! |
| 01:38.04 | darth_mall | those #defines? |
| 01:38.57 | purple_cow | uhhuh =/ |
| 01:39.53 | darth_mall | I say again: eep! |
| 01:41.43 | CIA-3 | openembedded: 03kergoth 07 * r1.3126 10openembedded/packages/gnupg/ (gnupg2_1.9.15.bb gnupg2.inc): gnupg2: kill the unnecessary do_install docdir rearranging, add /usr/share/gnupg to FILES_PN. |
| 01:46.55 | pagefault | damn |
| 01:47.00 | pagefault | valgrind is almost useless on zsnes |
| 01:47.04 | pagefault | runs way too slow |
| 01:47.40 | CIA-3 | openembedded: 03kergoth 07 * r1.3127 10openembedded/conf/machine/omap1610h2.conf: Set MODUTILS = '26' in the omap1610h2.conf, since the only omap kernel we've got is 2.6 anyway. |
| 01:52.36 | darth_mall | bleeeeeeeeeeeh cold |
| 01:53.35 | purple_cow | hmm, a flux inhibitor |
| 01:53.52 | ChipX86 | cool, now we can travel through time! |
| 01:54.38 | CIA-3 | openembedded: 03kergoth 07 * r1.3128 10openembedded/conf/distro/openomap.conf: Add OpenOMAP, a simple OE built distribution for TI OMAP development platforms. |
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| 01:57.16 | hardwire | anybody wanna be my electrical engineer? |
| 01:57.27 | hardwire | I will send you moneys. |
| 01:58.20 | kergoth | what does ubuntu use for its installer? |
| 01:58.22 | purple_cow | damn! |
| 01:58.33 | darth_mall | hmm? |
| 01:58.50 | darth_mall | kergoth: I can tell you what it doesn't use: the universe |
| 01:59.03 | kergoth | darth_mall: helpful as always :) |
| 02:00.53 | purple_cow | that would have been incredibly creepy if it worked :) |
| 02:02.13 | purple_cow | kergoth: if xchat-gnome is loading a .so, how would i export a symbol into that .so's namespace from the main program? |
| 02:03.04 | darth_mall | wow... the state diagram in Knutt's book sucks large |
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| 02:05.50 | laodamas | at least it is only a sprain. My habit of jumping off of tall things finally caught up with me :-P |
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| 02:08.03 | Cae | ChipX86: poke again |
| 02:08.07 | darth_mall | eep! Cae and lalo |
| 02:08.27 | laodamas | Time for soupmaking fun with butternut squash |
| 02:08.37 | Cae | anyone know of any good books on C#? |
| 02:08.40 | pagefault | kergoth, a debian installer without the crapola |
| 02:08.45 | pagefault | it's very straightforward |
| 02:08.48 | darth_mall | laodamas: or maybe your habit of not landing all of your jumps properly has finally not caught up with you enough |
| 02:09.01 | purple_cow | mmm butternet squash soup |
| 02:09.06 | Cae | eww |
| 02:09.22 | Cae | nooooooooooooooooo |
| 02:09.29 | Cae | but really, C#? |
| 02:09.32 | pagefault | kergoth, basically it installs the base system which includes X and basic utilties |
| 02:09.35 | pagefault | not even gcc |
| 02:09.39 | pagefault | anything else you want you apt-get yourself |
| 02:09.48 | Cae | because it's that or Java. and I know I hate java. |
| 02:09.58 | purple_cow | Cae: there are plenty of good online resources |
| 02:10.09 | purple_cow | it's pretty straightforward if you're familiar with other oo languages |
| 02:10.17 | Cae | for some reason I absorb it better if I have a command list on paper |
| 02:11.06 | purple_cow | ....command list? |
| 02:11.09 | pagefault | I would suggest getting the array 5 |
| 02:11.13 | pagefault | insted of warty |
| 02:11.16 | pagefault | to save yourself a lot of time |
| 02:11.41 | Cae | I was thinking of something else :P php and mysql, actually. but I absorb better through book than webpage |
| 02:11.51 | darth_mall | wow... an exercise in drawing a state diagram |
| 02:11.55 | darth_mall | useful, Knutt |
| 02:12.02 | Cae | darth_mall: difficult, that. |
| 02:12.14 | kergoth | pagefault: eh? thats what debian does too. a minimal 30 meg rootfs that you have to apt-get everything else into |
| 02:12.22 | Cae | meh, heading out..have fun, hehe |
| 02:12.25 | kergoth | so its just debian-installer? ncurses interface? |
| 02:12.28 | pagefault | kergoth, yeah |
| 02:12.42 | darth_mall | aww... Cae lefted |
| 02:13.54 | lalo | hey darth_mall |
| 02:14.06 | kergoth | pagefault: k, cool. i'm gonna add debian-installer to oe and try to install it on my desktop |
| 02:14.45 | pagefault | haw |
| 02:14.52 | pagefault | have fun |
| 02:16.18 | kergoth | its basically yet another debian based distro. just happens that we use its data for lots of distros |
| 02:18.10 | pagefault | :) |
| 02:18.28 | pagefault | it probably gets updated more often too |
| 02:18.48 | kergoth | well, the dev team is relatively small, but the large # of distros sharing the data means we all benefit from anyones changes |
| 02:18.55 | kergoth | which is the real advantage |
| 02:19.17 | pagefault | cool |
| 02:19.28 | kergoth | damnit, those bastards need to ship my mp3 player |
| 02:19.43 | kergoth | their shipping policy states that orders before 3pm should be shipped the same day, and i ordered the night before |
| 02:22.05 | purple_cow | darth_mall: found a bug! |
| 02:23.47 | darth_mall | purple_cow: which? |
| 02:24.58 | purple_cow | darth_mall: if a plugin won't load, you can click the enable thingy multiple times, and it'll add it to the gconf key |
| 02:25.10 | purple_cow | and then when you fix the problem, it'll load the plugin that many times |
| 02:25.38 | darth_mall | purple_cow: yup, I just filed that one today |
| 02:27.19 | CIA-3 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r7074 10xchat-gnome/plugins/notification/notification.c: add some broken dlsym nonsense and a status return value |
| 02:27.37 | CIA-3 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r7075 10xchat-gnome/plugins/notification/: hush |
| 02:33.56 | scanline | flimshaw! |
| 02:37.15 | CIA-3 | spacegrant: 03dowty * r1012 10mck/PyMCK/Test/test_micronet.py: Add a no-op test, for comparison, and fidget with some knobs in the other tests |
| 02:37.44 | pagefault | http://www.spinnaker.com/crypt/drm/freeme/ |
| 02:37.58 | pagefault | fun WMA DRM crack |
| 02:38.13 | pagefault | w/source |
| 02:38.14 | pagefault | :) |
| 02:40.45 | CIA-3 | spacegrant: 03dowty * r1013 10mck/ (. Makefile): Change flight-install's temporary directory to something more consistent, and add it to svn:ignore |
| 02:45.39 | darth_mall | what do we want? |
| 02:45.42 | darth_mall | FRY'S DOG! |
| 02:45.46 | darth_mall | when do we want it? |
| 02:45.54 | darth_mall | FRY'S DOG! |
| 02:46.25 | purple_cow | :) |
| 02:47.21 | CIA-3 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r7076 10xchat-gnome/fe-gnome/ (3 files): set window titles and make the password actually be invisible |
| 02:51.23 | scanline | invisible passwords are for chumps and security nuts |
| 02:55.08 | scanline | yep |
| 02:56.45 | darth_mall | blah... what I want to do is be sleeping or working on x-g |
| 02:56.50 | darth_mall | or eating |
| 02:56.53 | darth_mall | eating would be good |
| 02:57.32 | purple_cow | well, it's not an important password (server connection pw for a network), but it's a password nonetheless |
| 02:57.46 | purple_cow | apparently xchat has nickserv auto-identify support now, so we should add UI for that at some point |
| 02:57.51 | scanline | chumps and chumpettes! |
| 02:57.58 | scanline | or.. daffodil |
| 02:58.07 | purple_cow | funderful? |
| 02:59.40 | purple_cow | ooh |
| 02:59.43 | purple_cow | evince is awesome |
| 03:02.31 | laodamas | yay now just a three hour simmer until dinner! |
| 03:05.09 | kergoth | hrm, i need to cook more |
| 03:05.14 | kergoth | overcooked my hamburgers |
| 03:06.24 | laodamas | beef can be tricky, espically on non-thermally controlled stoves/grills/pentiums |
| 03:06.54 | laodamas | s/espically/especially |
| 03:06.58 | kergoth | heh, my problem is just not paying close enough attention |
| 03:07.01 | kergoth | i dont watch it close enough |
| 03:10.46 | laodamas | that why you need to breadboard a thermal control system for your grill. When a thermocouple in the meat reaches a specified "cooked" temp, turn grill to low/off |
| 03:11.16 | kergoth | hehe. thatd be nice |
| 03:11.18 | laodamas | damn open loop cooking |
| 03:11.26 | ChipX86 | yay home |
| 03:11.27 | kergoth | or it should just yell at me on a regular basis |
| 03:11.50 | kergoth | <pa system> chris, get off your ass and check on the food </pa system> |
| 03:15.59 | ChipX86 | http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/photo_galleries/4289977.stm |
| 03:16.00 | ChipX86 | neat |
| 03:16.44 | kergoth | aw, i want a man-made island too. |
| 03:16.50 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 03:17.49 | purple_cow | laodamas: got a digital copy? |
| 03:19.20 | laodamas | yep. I'll upload it to navi once my upload pipe becomes less congested |
| 03:20.30 | ChipX86 | http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=2312&item=6370006415&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW |
| 03:20.56 | purple_cow | sweet |
| 03:21.20 | file | burninate! |
| 03:22.32 | scanline | ooh |
| 03:25.28 | ChipX86 | wow, 16 comments on my blog post |
| 03:25.38 | kergoth | heh |
| 03:26.53 | darth_mall | hrm... I think mom's recipe was for instant rice... |
| 03:27.27 | ChipX86 | oh, many of them are from the NetworkManager guy |
| 03:27.58 | file | ChipX86: you are a very popular lad |
| 03:28.13 | ChipX86 | nah, it was just a post about networking in linux |
| 03:31.16 | kergoth | ugh, ate too much |
| 03:33.32 | kergoth | 21:31 < fu> so. boston university is trying to open a bioweapons lab in inner-city boston |
| 03:33.35 | kergoth | 21:31 < fu> bsl4 |
| 03:33.38 | kergoth | 21:33 < fu> this might just be a trick to wipe out the gay enclave of the south end with militarized anthrax |
| 03:34.00 | kergoth | booored |
| 03:35.05 | purple_cow | scanline: hah. anderson put up a web page about that whole singleton-vs-static thing, and apparently a distance student pointed out that you can actually use things like inheritance |
| 03:36.25 | scanline | heh |
| 03:36.29 | scanline | what a surprise! |
| 03:37.11 | purple_cow | so, i'm totally blown away by evince |
| 03:38.33 | pagefault | wow I so do not know how to use blender |
| 03:38.51 | purple_cow | hehe |
| 03:40.35 | purple_cow | yay blender |
| 03:43.12 | ChipX86 | ooh scary, lots of new updates in hoary |
| 03:44.19 | ChipX86 | ooh evince is fast |
| 03:44.51 | pagefault | tvtime is so wonderful |
| 03:44.55 | pagefault | digital cable looks amazing on my pc |
| 03:46.21 | CIA-3 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r7077 10xchat-gnome/fe-gnome/irc-network-editor.c: handle sensitivity on 'edit' and 'removed' based on treeview selection |
| 03:48.19 | purple_cow | hmm, cool |
| 03:48.21 | purple_cow | http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS6460976065.html |
| 03:48.32 | pagefault | hmm |
| 03:48.41 | pagefault | neat |
| 03:49.04 | purple_cow | ooh |
| 03:49.12 | purple_cow | in a couple hours we'll have invaders from mars and forbidden planet |
| 03:49.40 | darth_mall | oooh |
| 03:49.46 | ChipX86 | we should build up our weapons first |
| 03:49.49 | purple_cow | (introducing robbie the robot) |
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| 03:53.10 | scanline | oh no, PDF |
| 03:55.41 | *** join/#tacobeam JeffM2502 (~JeffM@ppp-69-236-20-187.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) |
| 03:58.24 | darth_mall | bleeeeeeeeeeeeh |
| 03:58.28 | darth_mall | stupid gantt charts |
| 04:01.44 | kergoth | yay family guy |
| 04:01.49 | darth_mall | yay |
| 04:02.08 | file | in other news, I have a date for the prom |
| 04:02.13 | ChipX86 | :D |
| 04:02.33 | kergoth | file: yay |
| 04:02.47 | file | life is good. |
| 04:02.52 | ChipX86 | yep |
| 04:03.02 | ChipX86 | and god Jamie is beautiful. (looking at her picture again) |
| 04:03.22 | ChipX86 | file: so, tell us about it |
| 04:03.35 | file | no telling for you! |
| 04:03.39 | ChipX86 | bah |
| 04:03.44 | darth_mall | ChipX86: =D |
| 04:03.57 | darth_mall | oooh... file's got a girlfriend... oooohh |
| 04:04.02 | kergoth | hehe |
| 04:04.35 | pagefault | "english instructions ruined, must use french ones..." "le grille, what the hell is that?" |
| 04:04.38 | file | silly darth_mall |
| 04:04.52 | file | pagefault: locate Simpsons |
| 04:05.21 | pagefault | "mmm donuts" |
| 04:05.26 | pagefault | "mmm beer" |
| 04:05.36 | pagefault | file, yep it's on FOX29 which you probably don't get |
| 04:05.43 | file | correct |
| 04:05.45 | file | I get Fox... 38 |
| 04:05.50 | file | Rochester, NY |
| 04:06.08 | file | I do get FOX29 if I go upstairs... but eh, I'm not moving |
| 04:06.32 | pagefault | this is from buffalo |
| 04:06.43 | file | we have bell upstairs |
| 04:11.12 | pagefault | holy crap |
| 04:11.19 | pagefault | that was probably the worst commercial I have ever seen |
| 04:11.24 | ChipX86 | which? |
| 04:11.38 | pagefault | for some online poker |
| 04:12.32 | scanline | purple_cow: hmm, decaf |
| 04:15.00 | CIA-3 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r7078 10xchat-gnome/fe-gnome/irc-network-editor.c: set text in the treeview when it's edited |
| 04:16.08 | darth_mall | time to see how badly this food experiment turned out |
| 04:16.56 | purple_cow | time to make some coffee |
| 04:55.18 | laodamas | grr. I should start charging for parential tech support |
| 04:56.15 | purple_cow | heh |
| 04:57.48 | ChipX86 | yay, Jamie finally got a monitor |
| 04:57.51 | laodamas | The flipping CIO of the oregonian newspaper doesen't know the difference between IMAP and POP |
| 05:00.17 | laodamas | or what a VGA connector looks like |
| 05:09.17 | slimspace | ok, so apparently my numerical comp professor is teaching a new form of linear algebra. |
| 05:09.31 | scanline | wobble! |
| 05:09.35 | slimspace | in this form, a scaler can equal a matrix |
| 05:09.40 | scanline | slimspace: you should join us all downstairs-like |
| 05:09.54 | file | slimspace: what fascinating news |
| 05:17.21 | ChipX86 | heh, good first impression... the new networking tools stuff that now comes with gnome crashed on Jamie :) |
| 05:17.37 | file | oh no! |
| 05:17.48 | ChipX86 | not having set up a modem in linux in a long time (and having done it all by hand at that point), we're blindly trying to figure out how to do that on her box |
| 05:17.58 | ChipX86 | and her mom doesn't remember the account username or password |
| 05:23.12 | purple_cow | oof, guess i get to upgrade my kernel on bhaskara |
| 05:24.02 | lurgy | d00d |
| 05:24.22 | lurgy | there's a girl in the ecenter here writing a paper in abiword in gnome on her laptop |
| 05:24.31 | lurgy | yay for random gnome users |
| 05:25.00 | lurgy | arf |
| 05:25.46 | lurgy | makes me happy |
| 05:26.03 | lurgy | d |
| 05:26.03 | lurgy | 22:25 < lurgy> there's a girl in the ecenter here writing a paper in abiword in |
| 05:26.06 | lurgy | eek |
| 05:26.10 | lurgy | damn osX terminal |
| 05:26.49 | purple_cow | lurgy: darth_mall sez come here |
| 05:27.41 | laodamas | gnome is for wimps. pwm forever! |
| 05:28.01 | purple_cow | lurgy: also, apparently your pants are subject to random locker searches |
| 05:29.35 | file | laodamas: duck. |
| 05:29.52 | laodamas | file: goose! |
| 05:29.59 | file | laodamas: turkey! |
| 05:30.21 | laodamas | file: albatross! |
| 05:30.28 | file | laodamas: darth_mall! |
| 05:32.17 | file | goodnight everyone |
| 05:54.23 | scanline | noooooooooooooooooooo |
| 05:54.24 | scanline | not sound! |
| 05:54.39 | darth_mall | what the hell is wrong with me |
| 06:09.49 | ChipX86 | *sigh* |
| 06:09.53 | ChipX86 | we're still a long way from usable. |
| 06:10.23 | kergoth | bleh |
| 06:15.34 | kergoth | no ship notification on my h320 :\ |
| 06:15.35 | kergoth | bastards |
| 06:17.13 | kergoth | hmm, evince is nice |
| 06:21.36 | purple_cow | =D |
| 06:21.45 | ChipX86 | XD |
| 06:21.51 | kergoth | wonder how itd behave in GPE on my zaurus |
| 06:22.28 | kergoth | lurgy: eep |
| 06:23.59 | kergoth | lurgy: bye, good luck :P |
| 06:24.33 | kergoth | ahhhhh |
| 06:24.38 | kergoth | i reorganized my ~/code directory right |
| 06:24.56 | kergoth | so all my oe build areas got fucked, every last one of them has hardcoded path information in the autoconf and automake search paths, etc |
| 06:25.14 | kergoth | thats like 13 independent oe build areas, around 3-8 gigs a piece, each of which that took upwards of an hour or more to run |
| 06:25.17 | kergoth | what a pain in the ass |
| 06:28.40 | purple_cow | hardcoded path information? yuck |
| 06:28.53 | kergoth | --prefix= |
| 06:29.29 | kergoth | a private copy of autoconf gets installed there, and to get it to be able to find the auto* perl modules, the prefix has to be set there |
| 06:29.36 | kergoth | which sucks, but oh well |
| 06:30.05 | kergoth | itd be nice if autoconf and automake were relocatable, really |
| 06:30.24 | kergoth | again, oh well |
| 06:30.25 | ChipX86 | (22:25:55) ServerSun: i just tarred 9 gigabytes worth of images into a file called full.tar.gz |
| 06:30.32 | ChipX86 | who wants to guess the contents of that tarball? |
| 06:30.39 | kergoth | hehe |
| 06:30.44 | purple_cow | heh |
| 06:30.52 | kergoth | family photos! yeah! thats it! |
| 06:30.52 | ChipX86 | he wants to send it to a server using ftp |
| 06:30.56 | ChipX86 | ftp says it's too big |
| 06:31.02 | ChipX86 | he doesn't want to split it into multiple archives |
| 06:31.28 | ChipX86 | (22:31:05) ServerSun: alright what do i do to split it up |
| 06:31.28 | ChipX86 | (22:31:12) ChipX86: you tar up the various pieces of it |
| 06:31.28 | ChipX86 | (22:31:17) ServerSun: ah shit, too late |
| 06:32.07 | kergoth | heh |
| 06:32.08 | kergoth | dd! |
| 06:32.19 | ChipX86 | he's not smart enough |
| 06:33.03 | kergoth | hmm, library design best practices question. error handling. return error code? error string pointer? opinions? |
| 06:34.30 | ChipX86 | (22:34:14) ChipX86: you need to read some howtos on this |
| 06:34.31 | ChipX86 | (22:34:22) ChipX86: and you should find a better way of grouping and uploading your porn :) |
| 06:34.37 | kergoth | hehe |
| 06:34.47 | ChipX86 | (22:34:40) ServerSun: its images for a really popular website (antishift) |
| 06:35.49 | ChipX86 | (22:35:28) ServerSun: scp filename user@server:/path/to/dest |
| 06:35.49 | ChipX86 | (22:35:34) ChipX86: yes |
| 06:35.49 | ChipX86 | (22:35:39) ServerSun: hold on let me think here |
| 06:36.00 | ChipX86 | this guy is sad |
| 06:39.40 | kergoth | hm, my best friend back in MN is having a kid. got married about a year ago. |
| 06:39.44 | kergoth | ugh, we're getting old |
| 06:48.10 | rioter | haha |
| 06:48.25 | rioter | im only 20, and my best friend is engaged trying for a kid |
| 06:48.31 | rioter | another friend has a kid, and another is married |
| 06:49.30 | kergoth | ls |
| 06:49.32 | kergoth | bleh |
| 06:54.05 | rioter | when stuff like that starts to happen around you, you know your over the hill haha |
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| 07:02.51 | darth_mall | bed time! |
| 07:11.08 | ChipX86 | kinda looking forward to my new office now |
| 07:11.15 | purple_cow | ChipX86: me too |
| 07:11.23 | ChipX86 | I'll take pics :) |
| 07:11.40 | ChipX86 | are you getting a new office? |
| 07:11.47 | purple_cow | nope |
| 07:12.00 | ChipX86 | oh |
| 07:14.26 | ChipX86 | being a graphic artist on Blind Date must be fun. |
| 07:18.06 | purple_cow | kergoth: re: libraries, i like returning an error code with a function to get the last error as a string |
| 07:20.23 | ChipX86 | this show is actually amusing |
| 07:24.24 | ChipX86 | TD[gone]! Awaken thyself |
| 07:38.27 | ChipX86 | D. Reed Freeman, the "Chief Privacy Officer" of Claria Networks (formerly Gator), the creators of the pervasive spyware package GAIN, has been appointed to the Department of Homeland Security's "Data Privacy and Integrity Advisory Committee" |
| 07:57.17 | purple_cow | hmm, now the question is |
| 07:57.24 | purple_cow | do i watch this new episode now or not |
| 07:57.30 | scanline | episode of what? |
| 07:57.35 | purple_cow | mythbusters |
| 07:57.39 | scanline | ooh |
| 07:57.41 | scanline | damnit |
| 07:57.47 | scanline | I shouldn't watch that.. but it's tempting |
| 07:57.55 | scanline | is it a non-clip show episode? :P |
| 07:58.19 | purple_cow | dunno |
| 07:58.30 | scanline | but bah.. it's too late |
| 07:58.32 | scanline | I should really go to bed |
| 07:58.34 | purple_cow | it's a 'special', but it looks like it might have been in between the first 3 and the first season |
| 07:58.50 | scanline | need quite a bit to catch up on my sleep.. and I should probably go to OOP tomorrow |
| 07:59.00 | purple_cow | hmm, yeah... |
| 08:01.48 | scanline | pff |
| 08:01.55 | scanline | they have machines to do that these days |
| 08:02.19 | scanline | and your hair is short enough that it shouldn't take long to dry, and it shouldn't be particularly bad if you do go to sleep with it wet |
| 08:02.27 | ChipX86 | yeah, tivo can watch futurama for you |
| 08:03.10 | purple_cow | scanline: it takes about 30 minutes before it's dry enough to sleep |
| 08:03.16 | purple_cow | and it is particularly bad if i sleep on it wet |
| 08:03.21 | scanline | pff |
| 08:06.37 | purple_cow | http://personaltechpipeline.com/news/60402815 |
| 08:07.38 | scanline | yikes |
| 08:09.31 | scanline | hah |
| 08:09.40 | scanline | none of tikimac's products are actually mac-only |
| 08:10.17 | scanline | they must just need mac users :P |
| 08:10.19 | purple_cow | with images of last year's gingerbread massacre freshly baked into our memories, i remind you to bolt your door, say goodbye to your pets and lock your children in the closet |
| 08:14.38 | scanline | damn |
| 08:14.47 | scanline | $1289 for their firewire 1.2TB drive |
| 08:15.44 | scanline | anyway... |
| 08:15.47 | purple_cow | that's not horrible |
| 08:27.20 | purple_cow | my god....the real santa! get 'im, jesus! |
| 08:32.29 | ChipX86 | heh, Napoleon Dynamite is a stud |
| 08:36.08 | ChipX86 | the whole family are winners |
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| 14:27.10 | pagefault_ | wowie |
| 14:27.17 | pagefault_ | kernel compile in just over 2 minues |
| 14:29.06 | pagefault_ | I would like a a 4 way opteron system |
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| 15:51.46 | purple_cow | hah, some clown wants to port fyre to cocoa |
| 15:54.13 | KeyserSoze | mmmm, hot cocoa |
| 16:00.06 | darth_mall | hrmmm... better get off to class |
| 16:00.10 | darth_mall | purple_cow: you comin'? |
| 16:01.28 | purple_cow | yeah... |
| 16:32.52 | darth_mall | wow... so he only just got around to looking at homework one |
| 16:33.55 | purple_cow | yyyep |
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| 16:36.41 | darth_mall | ooh lifeline, it's like Who Wants to be a Millionaire |
| 16:51.29 | purple_cow | argh |
| 16:51.44 | purple_cow | he really needs a scanner |
| 16:52.29 | purple_cow | how does he possibly think that showing a fuzzy diagram that's too big to show on the camera is useful at all? |
| 16:53.21 | purple_cow | i'm trying so hard to pay attention, but every time he does this i just zone out =/ |
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| 17:12.18 | Laser_Dolphin | Hellos |
| 17:13.06 | Laser_Dolphin | *wimpers* |
| 17:13.24 | Laser_Dolphin | or any combination thereof |
| 17:13.40 | Laser_Dolphin | In other words...Hiya slimspace |
| 17:13.46 | slimspace | :) |
| 17:15.01 | purple_cow | time to boil someone's cell phone |
| 17:15.07 | purple_cow | and their head |
| 17:15.10 | Laser_Dolphin | Explain |
| 17:15.20 | purple_cow | we're in class, right |
| 17:16.38 | Laser_Dolphin | Good morning scanline |
| 17:16.52 | Laser_Dolphin | purple_cow, I hate when people do that in class |
| 17:16.53 | slimspace | hi scanline |
| 17:17.04 | Laser_Dolphin | If I taught a class, I would answer people's phones and make fun of them |
| 17:17.16 | slimspace | Laser_Dolphin: I had a professor once that did that |
| 17:17.21 | purple_cow | i like how he gives us a list of topics that could be on the midterm and it's really just a list of everything he's talked about |
| 17:18.24 | Laser_Dolphin | slimspace, That's awesome! |
| 17:18.48 | slimspace | wow, this exam has extreme potential to suck royally... |
| 17:19.22 | purple_cow | ooh, i love it when people want us to write code on a test |
| 17:19.50 | scanline | bleh |
| 17:19.59 | Laser_Dolphin | purple_cow, code on a test, that sucks butt |
| 17:20.22 | purple_cow | hehe, he suggested OO perl |
| 17:20.32 | scanline | ew |
| 17:20.35 | purple_cow | that's tempting, except i'm not sure even i'm capable of something so disgusting |
| 17:21.12 | purple_cow | sure |
| 17:24.09 | purple_cow | cool, fyre's been uploaded to debian |
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| 17:30.25 | kergoth | my scsi raid card at home is toast :( |
| 17:31.52 | purple_cow | =( |
| 17:32.14 | kergoth | i was screwing in my cards, having _finally_ found hte _one_ card-in-slot arrangement that doesnt crash due to the wrong cards sharing irqs with one another |
| 17:32.24 | kergoth | and put in the slot covers on the slots that didnt have anything in |
| 17:32.30 | kergoth | and the fukcing slot cover slipped and hit the scsi card |
| 17:32.33 | kergoth | bam, light on the card goes out |
| 17:32.34 | kergoth | nada |
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| 17:42.33 | *** topic/#tacobeam is The secret is fresh pork. |
| 17:43.40 | scanline | hah. I hadn't noticed that GnomeFiles was run by OSNews |
| 17:44.55 | scanline | yay |
| 17:45.36 | darth_mall | hi scanline |
| 17:49.12 | CIA-3 | navi-misc: 03evan * r7079 10xchat-gnome/plugins/notification/notification.c: Comment out the navigation tree stuff for now. |
| 17:58.07 | kergoth | hmm, cant listen to music while transferring songs over usb |
| 18:01.01 | kergoth | doh, my laptop is only usb 1.1 |
| 18:01.08 | kergoth | no wonder its slow |
| 18:05.20 | darth_mall | silly kergoth |
| 18:05.30 | kergoth | yep |
| 18:05.54 | kergoth | so with my box at home lacking a raid controller, its down for the count, so i cant get to my tunes :( |
| 18:06.17 | kergoth | course i needed to buy a new 200 or 250 gig drive anyway, so guess this is an opportune time |
| 18:09.48 | darth_mall | heh |
| 18:10.01 | kergoth | heh |
| 18:10.13 | kergoth | guess i could try to find a new raid controller for cheap |
| 18:10.19 | kergoth | hate wasting the cheetahs |
| 18:12.40 | scanline | wasting the cheetahs, yep |
| 18:12.43 | scanline | you kids and your drugs |
| 18:12.49 | CIA-3 | openembedded: 03kergoth 07 * r1.3085.1.44 10openembedded/packages/ (6 files in 4 dirs): Apply gcc and qte fixes patch, courtesy Erik Andersen. |
| 18:15.05 | scanline | wonder if my rio is coming in this week |
| 18:15.46 | darth_mall | scanline: when did you order a rio? |
| 18:15.53 | kergoth | i hope this '60 minutes remaining' in my windows copy dialog isnt accurate. |
| 18:17.36 | CIA-3 | navi-misc: 03evan * r7080 10xchat-gnome/plugins/notification/notification.c: Hook up to channel messages. |
| 18:19.24 | scanline | darth_mall: tuesday |
| 18:19.41 | scanline | 20GB Rio Karma for about $190 |
| 18:19.48 | darth_mall | s/$/'s coming, did you bring your coat\?/ |
| 18:20.55 | darth_mall | scanline: does it come with a free puppy? |
| 18:22.20 | scanline | yes |
| 18:22.41 | darth_mall | wow... that's a better deal than I thought |
| 18:34.34 | darth_mall | ohhhhhhhhhh slimspace |
| 18:35.14 | slimspace | darth_mall: hmm? |
| 18:36.43 | kergoth | so these earphones have quite good sound for a decent price. sony mdr-ex71sl |
| 18:36.52 | kergoth | comfortable too |
| 18:36.54 | darth_mall | slimspace: you have class at 12:30? |
| 18:37.11 | darth_mall | kergoth: did you get them off a dead guy? |
| 18:38.11 | kergoth | fraid not |
| 18:38.34 | darth_mall | oh, ok, cuz if you did they were probably mine |
| 18:39.27 | slimspace | darth_mall: yes |
| 18:39.36 | darth_mall | damn, ok |
| 18:39.42 | slimspace | why? |
| 18:39.52 | darth_mall | lunch |
| 18:39.56 | slimspace | we can go now |
| 18:40.02 | darth_mall | heh, I'm in class ^^ |
| 18:40.09 | slimspace | when do you get out? |
| 18:40.15 | darth_mall | 12:15 =\ |
| 18:40.20 | slimspace | err... |
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| 18:40.31 | slimspace | where's your class at? |
| 18:40.46 | darth_mall | I forget what room number |
| 18:40.52 | slimspace | engineering center? |
| 18:40.55 | darth_mall | it's that room that sticks out over the side walk |
| 18:40.56 | darth_mall | yeah |
| 18:41.02 | slimspace | oh, ok |
| 18:41.09 | slimspace | mine's in muenzinger |
| 18:41.18 | darth_mall | ewwwwww |
| 18:41.51 | slimspace | I just have to turn my homework in and leave |
| 18:41.55 | kergoth | yay, linode is activated |
| 18:42.33 | darth_mall | slimspace: well, that's up to you |
| 18:42.55 | slimspace | it's numerical comp. I've yet to get anything from that class. |
| 18:43.08 | slimspace | at least in the lectures |
| 18:43.09 | darth_mall | hehe |
| 18:43.24 | darth_mall | the ODE stuff can be pretty useful |
| 18:43.42 | slimspace | yeah, but we're far from that. We're learning about linear algebra all over again |
| 18:43.59 | darth_mall | right, the good stuff doesn't come til the end ^^ |
| 18:44.04 | slimspace | mmm |
| 18:44.08 | slimspace | so yeah, I think I'll skip |
| 18:44.13 | darth_mall | heh |
| 18:44.38 | slimspace | since I'll have to go that way anyway, we could eat at the UMC |
| 18:46.05 | darth_mall | the UMC does, indeed, have food |
| 18:48.11 | slimspace | mmm hmm |
| 18:51.02 | kergoth | gah, 21 minutes remaining on this song transfer |
| 18:54.32 | darth_mall | I'm so hungry I could kill someone |
| 18:57.47 | KeyserSoze | how does that satiate your hunger? |
| 18:57.59 | KeyserSoze | unless if it's your hunger for BLOOD! |
| 18:57.59 | kergoth | KeyserSoze: i didnt want to know |
| 19:00.25 | darth_mall | huh... Hunter S. Thompson killed himself |
| 19:00.42 | darth_mall | oooh Living Dead Girl |
| 19:00.43 | darth_mall | good song |
| 19:00.46 | KeyserSoze | er, I guess not that song at all |
| 19:01.00 | KeyserSoze | what's the song with the intro that's like from a 50's horror movie? |
| 19:03.10 | KeyserSoze | okay, there's like a spoken intro to "Living Dead Girl" |
| 19:03.25 | KeyserSoze | but it doesn't apply that well to darth_mall's current situation, after all |
| 19:03.33 | KeyserSoze | "Who is this irresistible creature who has an |
| 19:03.33 | KeyserSoze | insatiable love for the dead?" |
| 19:03.37 | darth_mall | KeyserSoze: that matters not, Living Dead Girl is a cool song ^^ |
| 19:04.31 | darth_mall | me neither |
| 19:04.33 | darth_mall | not since HS |
| 19:04.42 | darth_mall | but I'll never forget the cover of the album ^^ |
| 19:04.54 | KeyserSoze | i've still got the cd, actually |
| 19:05.16 | KeyserSoze | probably in a box in the back of closet, because i haven't unpacked any cds since moving a couple months ago |
| 19:05.17 | darth_mall | I never did, my best friend had it |
| 19:05.53 | darth_mall | hrm... I suddenly find myself with the urge to try and find a copy of WoW... |
| 19:05.58 | darth_mall | probably not a good idear... |
| 19:06.47 | darth_mall | my resolve is finally fading... =\ |
| 19:11.01 | kergoth | finally, the fucking transfer completed |
| 19:11.04 | kergoth | sheesh |
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| 19:11.53 | darth_mall | yay kergoth |
| 19:14.08 | scanline | wheee |
| 19:16.28 | scanline | looks like I don't actually need OOP either :P |
| 19:16.55 | scanline | I did in the newer curriculum, but in the older one they had me on file for I don't |
| 19:17.12 | scanline | yay, linode |
| 19:19.04 | ChipX86 | http://www.deviantart.com/view/15487099/ cute |
| 19:19.30 | *** join/#tacobeam Laser_Dolphin (Rich@ec237-237-dhcp.colorado.edu) |
| 19:19.45 | Laser_Dolphin | Hello tacobeam |
| 19:19.53 | darth_mall | stfu n00b |
| 19:19.54 | Laser_Dolphin | Who knows anything about SQL or php? |
| 19:20.51 | darth_mall | ChipX86: cute |
| 19:20.52 | Laser_Dolphin | I may have to create some sort of online database and I have no idea how to do it |
| 19:20.56 | darth_mall | oh no! |
| 19:21.05 | scanline | Laser_Dolphin: monkeys |
| 19:22.42 | Laser_Dolphin | scanline, what about monkeys? |
| 19:22.45 | ChipX86 | damnit, vino crashed |
| 19:22.50 | ChipX86 | ARGH |
| 19:23.07 | ChipX86 | oh and now it's back alive. Huh. |
| 19:24.18 | purple_cow | sweeeet |
| 19:24.19 | purple_cow | http://mail.gnome.org/archives/desktop-devel-list/2005-February/msg00415.html |
| 19:24.40 | ChipX86 | nice |
| 19:25.02 | Laser_Dolphin | he waved back |
| 19:25.03 | purple_cow | that's totally awesome |
| 19:26.06 | ChipX86 | going to set up a Planet VMware internally :D |
| 19:26.19 | ChipX86 | I suggested it yesterday and people are liking the idea |
| 19:29.55 | kergoth | ChipX86: so, blogs, whats good software to run to set one up for myself? |
| 19:31.22 | kergoth | hmm, my h320 needs some visualizations :) |
| 19:31.30 | ChipX86 | Movable Type is decen |
| 19:31.30 | ChipX86 | t |
| 19:31.35 | ChipX86 | Wordpress is supposed to be good |
| 19:31.48 | ChipX86 | don't do what some people at VMware are doing and roll your own Just Because :P |
| 19:32.01 | ChipX86 | "I made my own blog software! Does everything I need." "Does it support RSS?" "No, is that important?" |
| 19:32.47 | kergoth | hah |
| 19:32.58 | kergoth | i'm far too lazy for that. |
| 19:33.01 | ChipX86 | good :) |
| 19:33.25 | kergoth | so my first experience with ubuntu is on the linode. |
| 19:33.59 | CIA-3 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r7081 10fyre/web/news.content: add a link to the .deb |
| 19:34.10 | ChipX86 | ooh a deb |
| 19:34.23 | ChipX86 | kergoth: pfft, you must experience ubuntu on a desktop |
| 19:34.44 | hardwire | linode? |
| 19:34.57 | hardwire | ohyeh linode |
| 19:35.03 | hardwire | I need to register an account there |
| 19:35.30 | kergoth | ChipX86: hehe, i will, but figured i'd mess with it here since i had to install something anyway |
| 19:35.36 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 19:35.39 | hardwire | kergoth: how did you install ubunto on a linude? |
| 19:35.44 | hardwire | I don't know much about linude |
| 19:35.51 | ChipX86 | linode |
| 19:35.51 | hardwire | is there a virtual RFB you connect to? |
| 19:35.55 | ChipX86 | not linude :P |
| 19:36.16 | purple_cow | mmm, nude |
| 19:36.19 | hardwire | linude |
| 19:36.22 | scanline | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:36.23 | hardwire | nude happy |
| 19:36.27 | scanline | is that the right address for the DMV here? |
| 19:36.50 | purple_cow | sounds rightish |
| 19:36.52 | scanline | hardwire: they provide disk images |
| 19:37.03 | hardwire | scanline: ok |
| 19:37.10 | scanline | hardwire: you can set up Xvnc or whatever on them later, but generally you administer them through ssh or their Linode Shell (LISH) |
| 19:37.13 | hardwire | which linode config do you guys use? |
| 19:37.23 | hardwire | I need to basically set up a compressing proxy server in US48 |
| 19:37.26 | scanline | purple_cow: t0p s3kr37! |
| 19:37.35 | kergoth | woah |
| 19:37.37 | kergoth | hmm |
| 19:37.54 | purple_cow | scanline: ID? :) |
| 19:38.19 | scanline | purple_cow: need to renew my learner's permit, so that I can actually get back in practice with the driving and get my license |
| 19:38.26 | purple_cow | hehe |
| 19:38.32 | ChipX86 | oh good, I'm not the only one in that situation |
| 19:38.34 | scanline | and I might actually have a car in not too long |
| 19:38.39 | ChipX86 | thought that was just a Chico thing :) |
| 19:39.02 | scanline | my parents have been talking about getting me a car when I graduate for a while now |
| 19:41.45 | Laser_Dolphin | scanline, Sweet! Do you have any idea of what kind of car? |
| 19:42.43 | scanline | nope |
| 19:43.04 | scanline | maybe a thundercougarfalconbird |
| 19:43.08 | purple_cow | awesome |
| 19:43.12 | scanline | nothin' makes you feel more like a man.. |
| 19:43.20 | purple_cow | nobody will ever question scanline's sexual orientation again! |
| 19:43.25 | hardwire | this office is fucke dup |
| 19:43.26 | scanline | yep |
| 19:43.28 | Laser_Dolphin | scanline, bad ass. You should drop it and put it on low-pros that stick out 8" from the side of the car |
| 19:43.40 | scanline | Laser_Dolphin: and a hydraulic knife! |
| 19:43.41 | hardwire | everybody thinks I am being rude for working and not socializing. |
| 19:44.04 | Laser_Dolphin | hardwire, you are socializing, just not with your co-workers :) |
| 19:44.15 | hardwire | indeed |
| 19:44.29 | Laser_Dolphin | scanline, Electronics question for you... |
| 19:44.38 | scanline | nope |
| 19:45.04 | Laser_Dolphin | scanline, How can one use aliasing to provide accurate measurements if the input frequency is greater than the nyquist rate? |
| 19:46.14 | scanline | very carefully? |
| 19:46.17 | hardwire | nude |
| 19:46.21 | scanline | on ice |
| 19:46.45 | hardwire | ok |
| 19:46.52 | hardwire | headed to the big old electronics store |
| 19:46.57 | hardwire | DON'T TRY TO STOP ME! |
| 19:47.16 | hardwire | okbye |
| 19:48.02 | purple_cow | anyone else just get a mental image of little bender? |
| 19:48.53 | purple_cow | hmm |
| 19:52.07 | Laser_Dolphin | but that's just my though |
| 19:52.09 | Laser_Dolphin | thought |
| 20:00.17 | kergoth | hm, apparently flashing it with nonstandard firmware will destroy the ability to ever play DRM music on it again, even if you flash back |
| 20:00.20 | kergoth | "oh darn" |
| 20:03.39 | purple_cow | hehe |
| 20:06.08 | kergoth | hah, okay, the international version of hte h320 has a usb 1.1 host port, for connecting to camears |
| 20:06.11 | kergoth | cameras, even |
| 20:06.23 | kergoth | apparently the US one doesnt work out of the box, but can with a little soldering |
| 20:06.27 | kergoth | spiffy. |
| 20:07.15 | kergoth | fun, firmware hacking tools that let you replace and manipulate images/skins, bootup screen, and fonts |
| 20:08.30 | ChipX86 | meh, missing the team lunch today |
| 20:30.15 | darth_mall | I don't like bein' sick... |
| 20:34.46 | purple_cow | time to watch a movie, i think |
| 20:34.58 | darth_mall | purple_cow: you are a movie! watch yourself! |
| 20:34.59 | Laser_Dolphin | Darn...the file I downloaded was corrupt |
| 20:35.24 | darth_mall | well... run it through an uncorrupting script |
| 20:35.47 | Laser_Dolphin | darth_mall, I wish I had an uncorrputing script |
| 20:35.51 | darth_mall | they're easy |
| 20:35.58 | Laser_Dolphin | Just like SQL? |
| 20:36.01 | darth_mall | no |
| 20:36.06 | darth_mall | because sql is a database |
| 20:36.17 | Laser_Dolphin | and what's an uncorrupting script? |
| 20:37.19 | purple_cow | holy crap |
| 20:37.30 | purple_cow | leslie nielsen is in this movie |
| 20:37.37 | purple_cow | second thing he ever did :) |
| 20:37.54 | Laser_Dolphin | purple_cow, You should check it in IMDB |
| 20:38.00 | darth_mall | liar |
| 20:38.04 | purple_cow | Laser_Dolphin: i did :P |
| 20:38.08 | Laser_Dolphin | purple_cow, Ah... |
| 20:38.16 | Laser_Dolphin | that explains your knowledge on the subject |
| 20:38.26 | purple_cow | http://imdb.com/title/tt0049223/fullcredits#writers |
| 20:38.38 | purple_cow | hehe, robby the robot as himself |
| 20:38.47 | Laser_Dolphin | w00t! A non-corrupted file~! |
| 20:42.15 | ChipX86 | did scanline ever get his DM stuff? |
| 20:42.24 | purple_cow | ChipX86: yep |
| 20:42.36 | ChipX86 | how'd it turn out? |
| 20:42.46 | purple_cow | quite good |
| 20:44.57 | ChipX86 | another mail server died at work. |
| 20:44.59 | ChipX86 | *sigh* |
| 20:45.25 | ChipX86 | "It's not unstable" they keep telling us. "There's no reason to switch to a UNIX system with a UNIX mail server. Exchange is working out fine." |
| 20:45.37 | darth_mall | ChipX86: yay mugs! |
| 20:45.40 | ChipX86 | :D |
| 20:45.46 | purple_cow | wow, it really is him |
| 20:45.51 | purple_cow | he looks completely different |
| 20:49.09 | Laser_Dolphin | bye |
| 20:50.14 | *** join/#tacobeam Cae (~cae@209.189.229.22) |
| 20:50.16 | ChipX86 | hey Cae |
| 20:55.05 | file | must, keep, users, satisfied! |
| 20:55.12 | Cae | NO! you must annoy them. |
| 20:55.29 | file | noooooo |
| 21:02.11 | Cae | s/update/sync/ |
| 21:02.43 | kergoth | okay, i'm not getting crap done today. damn new mp3 player for sucking all my attention away from work |
| 21:02.55 | file | kergoth and his silly 'work' |
| 21:03.01 | kergoth | yes |
| 21:03.04 | Cae | I have..hmm..about 6 hours to learn C#... |
| 21:03.10 | ChipX86 | my work today is setting up a planet and a blog :D |
| 21:03.13 | Cae | and relearn C++ |
| 21:03.13 | ChipX86 | Cae: why 6 hours? |
| 21:03.25 | Cae | because that's when my homework's due. and he goes by timestamp. |
| 21:03.32 | ChipX86 | :( |
| 21:03.39 | ChipX86 | what's the assignment? |
| 21:03.41 | Cae | and sadly the cs department unix server is one I don't have sudo or root on |
| 21:03.53 | kergoth | ooh look |
| 21:03.59 | kergoth | a family guy skin/theme for my mp3 player |
| 21:05.16 | ChipX86 | yay, every e-mail I've received abou tmy blog/planet idea has been a "cool! I'll set one up." |
| 21:05.43 | kergoth | haha |
| 21:05.50 | kergoth | KeyserSoze: no, its a hack for the firmware. skins the software |
| 21:09.48 | ChipX86 | damnit! |
| 21:09.50 | ChipX86 | my mail server's down |
| 21:10.10 | ChipX86 | our idiot IT department needs to STOP USING EXCHANGE |
| 21:10.48 | kergoth | :\ |
| 21:14.48 | ChipX86 | lovely, Options ExecCGI isn't working |
| 21:16.17 | ChipX86 | oh, we can make a cgi-bin dir in public_html |
| 21:20.39 | ChipX86 | ooh |
| 21:20.44 | ChipX86 | networking works on my Rio now |
| 21:21.57 | kergoth | ChipX86: they have jtag connectivity to my mp3 player. |
| 21:22.07 | kergoth | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IriverBDM |
| 21:22.32 | ChipX86 | jtag? |
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| 21:22.54 | ChipX86 | pfft, just http |
| 21:22.58 | kergoth | joint test action group. means they can flash the firmware and recover if they fuck up |
| 21:23.06 | kergoth | they're working on porting 'rockbox' to it |
| 21:23.11 | kergoth | and rockbox has a gnuboy plugin on the way |
| 21:23.15 | ChipX86 | neat |
| 21:23.15 | kergoth | which is just sick, but i love it |
| 21:23.21 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 21:23.49 | ChipX86 | so, I was hoping for at least ftp or samba or something on here.. |
| 21:23.54 | ChipX86 | disappointing. |
| 21:24.18 | kergoth | didnt get ethernet connectivity working at all? |
| 21:24.24 | ChipX86 | no, I just now did |
| 21:24.28 | ChipX86 | it just worked :P |
| 21:25.02 | kergoth | ah |
| 21:25.06 | ChipX86 | but the web server just points to the java app for uploading music |
| 21:25.12 | kergoth | aw |
| 21:25.20 | ChipX86 | I wanted to connect to one of my boxes on the wired network and upload from there using samba or nfs or ftp or something |
| 21:25.23 | kergoth | anyone worked on hacking the firmware for it yet? |
| 21:26.18 | ChipX86 | dunno yet |
| 21:26.36 | ChipX86 | people have updated the HD |
| 21:26.42 | ChipX86 | er, put in a bigger one |
| 21:26.48 | kergoth | ah nice |
| 21:27.10 | file | it runs Linux? how nice. |
| 21:27.49 | ChipX86 | oh, nice |
| 21:27.50 | kergoth | my player? dunno if rockbox uses linux or if its entirely a custom kernel |
| 21:27.53 | ChipX86 | https://rmml.dev.java.net/servlets/ProjectDocumentList?folderID=438&expandFolder=438&folderID=1536 |
| 21:28.41 | purple_cow | urgh |
| 21:29.02 | purple_cow | fontconfig is using up *so* much memory in xchat-gnome |
| 21:33.04 | ChipX86 | hah. |
| 21:33.10 | ChipX86 | ls com/rio/rmmlite/easteregg |
| 21:33.38 | ChipX86 | KaramVsIpod*.class |
| 21:35.33 | ChipX86 | oh man, even though this code isn't open source, it wouldn't be hard to figure out the protocol |
| 21:35.41 | ChipX86 | looks to be XML, and all magic numbers are documented in java .properties files |
| 21:36.11 | kergoth | ChipX86: heh, cool |
| 21:36.30 | ChipX86 | going to attempt a driver |
| 21:39.56 | ChipX86 | scratch that, it's a binary protocol, partially |
| 21:40.06 | ChipX86 | but should be easy enough still |
| 21:40.32 | kergoth | nice |
| 21:40.39 | ChipX86 | I hope :) |
| 21:43.18 | kergoth | hmm, oe expects gcc to be two pass, yet this firmware stuff only requires one, since there's no c library |
| 21:49.46 | ChipX86 | yeah this protocol is cake |
| 21:50.05 | ChipX86 | I'll let scanline write the usb driver ;) I'll just do the ethernet stuff |
| 21:50.08 | kergoth | hehe |
| 21:52.06 | kergoth | heh |
| 21:52.14 | kergoth | switching from mp3/ogg to the fm tuner really makes the quality difference obvious |
| 21:52.19 | kergoth | _really_ |
| 21:59.30 | *** join/#tacobeam JeffM2501 (~JeffM@Patlabor221.active.supporter.pdpc) |
| 21:59.45 | ChipX86 | this app requests the version twice. Weird. |
| 22:00.33 | ChipX86 | wtf was that.. |
| 22:01.02 | ChipX86 | http://www.chipx86.com/liltbchica39.html |
| 22:01.22 | CIA-3 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r7082 10xchat-gnome/fe-gnome/ (irc-network-editor.c irc-network.c): add the basics of comitting changes in the network editor |
| 22:01.32 | purple_cow | heh |
| 22:02.15 | CIA-3 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r7083 10xchat-gnome/fe-gnome/TODO: remove obsolete thingies |
| 22:04.10 | CIA-3 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r7084 10xchat-gnome/fe-gnome/ (ROADMAP xchat-gnome.glade): desensitize the unimplemented pieces of searching (which will probably require some additional GtkXText API to do), call it done enough |
| 22:06.21 | ChipX86 | some of these packets have odd values in them that I don't understand yet |
| 22:10.42 | kergoth | hmm, i need to design myself a dead simple web site |
| 22:10.54 | kergoth | havent touched web stuff in quite a while |
| 22:10.56 | kergoth | out of practice |
| 22:11.07 | ChipX86 | I should put on some clothes |
| 22:11.23 | purple_cow | naw |
| 22:11.40 | ChipX86 | by golly, you're right! |
| 22:14.23 | Cae | :P |
| 22:19.28 | CIA-3 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r7085 10fyre/web/news.content: typo |
| 22:22.06 | kergoth | okay, who here has done web work with python? |
| 22:22.15 | kergoth | opinions? is zope a good route to go? mod_python? |
| 22:22.45 | ChipX86 | (14:19:42) Joelle: are you nekkid? |
| 22:22.45 | ChipX86 | (14:19:50) ChipX86: nope, wearing a robe |
| 22:22.50 | ChipX86 | (14:21:50) Joelle: darn. |
| 22:22.50 | ChipX86 | (14:21:53) ChipX86: ? |
| 22:22.50 | ChipX86 | (14:22:15) ChipX86: wanted me naked? |
| 22:22.50 | ChipX86 | (14:22:24) Joelle: Mayyybe! |
| 22:23.27 | ChipX86 | silly girl |
| 22:23.37 | kergoth | hehe |
| 22:25.09 | ChipX86 | gee thanks |
| 22:25.18 | ToyKeeper | Have you ever heard of any high-traffic network servers being written in visual basic? |
| 22:25.28 | ChipX86 | oh |
| 22:25.31 | ToyKeeper | ChipX86: sorry, I wasn't shuddering at you. :) |
| 22:25.32 | kergoth | .. |
| 22:26.04 | purple_cow | kergoth: i'd recommend staying away from zope |
| 22:26.26 | kergoth | zope seems cool, but rather monstrous. i dont need something that heavyweight |
| 22:26.52 | purple_cow | it is cool and monsterous, and also an administration headache of massive proportions |
| 22:27.03 | purple_cow | you could use scanline's nouvelle stuff :) |
| 22:27.03 | kergoth | ah. |
| 22:27.11 | kergoth | nouvelle? |
| 22:27.14 | ToyKeeper | kergoth: zope is, um, interesting. If you want to develop any nontrivial python stuff with it, though, you'll have to write them as external "products" though. |
| 22:27.32 | kergoth | in this case, i'm just doing a small simple personal site |
| 22:27.39 | ToyKeeper | Zope's built-in python stuff is incredibly restrictive.. IIRC, declaring a class is a "security violation", and so is opening a file. |
| 22:27.39 | kergoth | and i dont want to refresh my memory w/ php |
| 22:28.39 | ToyKeeper | Zope has some pretty neat ideas in it, but seems like too much overhead to be worthwhile much of the time. |
| 22:29.12 | ToyKeeper | I've heard jotweb.tummy.com is decent, if it fits your development style. |
| 22:30.26 | kergoth | hmm, looks interesting |
| 22:30.32 | purple_cow | http://navi.cx/svn/misc/trunk/therm/pytherm/web.py <-- that's the nouvelle source for the therms |
| 22:30.37 | ToyKeeper | I don't really care for jsp-like web frameworks, but lots of people like them. |
| 22:30.49 | purple_cow | heh, tummy.com |
| 22:30.53 | purple_cow | haven't heard that url in a while |
| 22:32.01 | kergoth | about the only web work i've ever done is php/mysql bits |
| 22:32.08 | ToyKeeper | I think what I'd really like is PHP's <? embedded-in-html ?> syntax, with python inside the code portions. |
| 22:32.44 | kergoth | i'm thinking mod_python/python/sqlite3 for my personal site, just need a python module to do some of the annoying bits |
| 22:33.51 | ToyKeeper | XML-based template languages bug the hell out of me. ... Everything is so verbose, explicit, and redundant... |
| 22:34.16 | ToyKeeper | I'd rather build my own contextual framework than have to specify everything explicitly all the time. |
| 22:43.18 | darth_mall | toes! |
| 22:44.10 | ToyKeeper | toes are tastier than visual basic code. |
| 22:44.28 | KeyserSoze | I don't think I like feet as much as you do. |
| 22:45.06 | KeyserSoze | c'mon |
| 22:45.10 | KeyserSoze | somebody say it.... |
| 22:45.14 | ToyKeeper | Or maybe you don't dislike VB as much as I do. :) |
| 22:45.26 | KeyserSoze | <Quagmire>Everybody likes feet</Quagmire> |
| 22:45.29 | KeyserSoze | :D |
| 22:45.38 | kergoth | hehe |
| 22:46.57 | KeyserSoze | hmmm |
| 22:47.01 | kergoth | hrm |
| 22:47.18 | KeyserSoze | if you install an app under gentoo, can you debug it, and it'll find the source automatically? |
| 22:47.54 | purple_cow | ...find the source? |
| 22:48.23 | KeyserSoze | can you just attach a debugger to it while it's running, and it'll know where the source is? |
| 22:48.43 | purple_cow | are you asking if it builds things with debug symbols? :P |
| 22:49.09 | KeyserSoze | that, and does it keep the source hanging around, or does it put it in /var and blow it away every once in a while |
| 22:49.16 | *** join/#tacobeam pagefault (~pagefault@Ottawa-HSE-ppp4062152.sympatico.ca) |
| 22:49.23 | ToyKeeper | KeyserSoze: add -g to your build options, and then you probably could. :) |
| 22:49.27 | Cae | oh, kergoth, Trip and I and random other people are going to ConDFW this weekend in Dallas. and anyone else near Dallas is also invited. |
| 22:49.53 | purple_cow | KeyserSoze: it doesn't automatically remove source tarballs. if a build succeeds it'll blow away the work dir |
| 22:50.20 | purple_cow | there's also a "debug" use flag to keep it from stripping binaries |
| 22:50.26 | *** join/#tacobeam Samy (~samy@212.76.88.119) |
| 22:50.57 | KeyserSoze | if you build for debug, doesn't it still need the source files? or is the source code text actually put into the executable? |
| 22:51.15 | purple_cow | that's what debug symbols are |
| 22:51.48 | scanline | kergoth, ToyKeeper: you could use nouvelle :) |
| 22:52.04 | scanline | it's the very tiny nevow-like web framework CIA uses... and it works with mod_python |
| 22:52.09 | kergoth | scanline: purple_cow already brought that up :) need to look at it |
| 22:52.17 | KeyserSoze | hrm. i've never done it in linux, but i thought in windows if you get an exe from someone that built it with debug, it will look for the source on your machine, and if it doesn't ahve it, you won't see it in the debugger |
| 22:52.24 | kergoth | bleh, and i suppose i should learn CSS beter |
| 22:52.26 | kergoth | better, even |
| 22:52.53 | ToyKeeper | http://www.w3schools.com/css/css_reference.asp |
| 22:52.58 | kergoth | heh, yeah |
| 22:53.00 | kergoth | w3schools is great |
| 22:53.05 | scanline | kergoth: it's really simple- like about 1000 lines of code |
| 22:53.19 | KeyserSoze | i've never debugged anything in linux except my own programs, and i never did that except when the executable was still in the same directory that 'make' put it in |
| 22:53.25 | kergoth | scanline: wheres it at? navi svn? |
| 22:53.28 | Cae | kergoth: you must come to con :P |
| 22:53.34 | kergoth | con.. url me |
| 22:53.35 | scanline | kergoth: yeah. it has some simple examples too |
| 22:53.44 | kergoth | scanline: know the path offhand? |
| 22:53.52 | Cae | kergoth: http://www.condfw.org/ |
| 22:53.54 | scanline | http://navi.cx/svn/misc/trunk/nouvelle |
| 22:54.12 | scanline | kergoth: also, the therm server and CIA use it if you need more examples :) |
| 22:54.32 | scanline | there should also be a nouvelle release on freshmeat and on flapjack |
| 22:54.45 | Cae | also important, they have wireless and if necessary, there is a bar in the middle of the hotel the con is in |
| 22:54.54 | lurgy | hiya Cae |
| 22:55.12 | Cae | hiya |
| 22:56.48 | KeyserSoze | huh. in vc++, you can put debug info into a pdb file, and put the name of the pdb file in the exe file. then when you debug, the debugger gets the name of the pdb from the exe, and can then show you source code |
| 23:00.10 | kergoth | scanline: cute! its so simple |
| 23:02.10 | kergoth | hmm, reStructuredText might be useful as a simple formatting mechanism for individual static pages on the site |
| 23:19.49 | purple_cow | what a great movie... |
| 23:22.09 | purple_cow | hurray lurgy |
| 23:24.04 | lurgy | hurray |
| 23:24.58 | purple_cow | he's a professional flying rooster! |
| 23:26.28 | purple_cow | "just a little place i like to call the land of the free, the home of the brave" "scotland!" |
| 23:28.59 | lurgy | france! |
| 23:29.56 | kergoth | hm, mod_python doesnt like m |
| 23:29.57 | kergoth | e |
| 23:30.04 | kergoth | methinks i've forgotten everything i ever knew about apache |
| 23:30.39 | lurgy | yay for schoenberg |
| 23:31.20 | CIA-3 | spacegrant: 03evan * r1014 10doc-misc/adcs/schedule.doc: Might as well keep a copy of our schedule in here. |
| 23:32.04 | CIA-3 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r7086 10xchat-gnome/fe-gnome/irc-network-editor.c: add some more committey bits |
| 23:34.27 | KeyserSoze | i tried to write data to this flight sim called flight gear, over a socket. |
| 23:34.48 | ChipX86 | my SSN is asking when I had sex last |
| 23:34.50 | KeyserSoze | i didn't convert to network byte order |
| 23:35.12 | KeyserSoze | i logged some of their data with netcat, saw it was just like mine, except theirs had 3 0's at the front |
| 23:35.36 | KeyserSoze | (because they did 0x00000014 as 0x00000014, and i did it as 0x14000000) |
| 23:35.44 | kergoth | heh |
| 23:35.49 | KeyserSoze | so i just stuck three extra zeros at the front, and tried it again |
| 23:36.15 | KeyserSoze | so then it liked the first word, the version identifier, and proceeded to try to decode the message, and crashed in the process |
| 23:37.09 | purple_cow | heh |
| 23:39.28 | Samy | Flight Gear. |
| 23:39.40 | Samy | Tried that a couple of times. |
| 23:40.09 | kergoth | hrm |
| 23:40.38 | kergoth | why is it when i try to enter a .py in the url, it tries to download it, despite the AddHandler having set .py to mod_python, and having set PythonHandler? |
| 23:42.49 | purple_cow | restarted httpd? |
| 23:44.50 | kergoth | yeah |
| 23:44.50 | kergoth | hmm |
| 23:53.25 | kergoth | erm |
| 23:53.33 | kergoth | now it wants to download a file of type 'httpd/unix-directory' |
| 23:53.38 | kergoth | yeah, i suck at apache setup alright |
| 23:53.40 | kergoth | :) |
| 23:58.55 | KeyserSoze | i made my companies aircraft simulation interact with FlightGear |
| 23:59.26 | KeyserSoze | i can enter a flightplan in ours, activate guidance, and watch the scenery as the plane flies on FlightGear |
| 23:59.46 | purple_cow | cool |