| 00:01.43 | scanline | pff |
| 00:01.54 | scanline | good thing I noticed this conversation after making myself a bagel... |
| 00:02.45 | purple_cow | hmm, ya know what... |
| 00:03.02 | purple_cow | 'cuz why not |
| 00:03.17 | scanline | you have visual studio? |
| 00:03.22 | purple_cow | yep |
| 00:04.00 | scanline | io_count=1263085630 io_rate=0 io_tokens=399982 token_refill=512 token_max=400000 |
| 00:04.08 | file[laptop] | ah kergoth is not who I suspected it to be |
| 00:05.15 | scanline | xchat-gnome needs more hotkeys for switching channels |
| 00:05.17 | scanline | like ctrl-a n |
| 00:05.36 | purple_cow | heh |
| 00:06.39 | darth_mall | wow... this document is scary |
| 00:07.41 | purple_cow | scanline: i'm pretty sure this version doesn't require activation, if you want the CDs |
| 00:07.51 | purple_cow | it's an msdnaa license, so it's only cheating a little |
| 00:07.56 | scanline | purple_cow: tempting, but I'm not sure what I'd use it for |
| 00:08.04 | purple_cow | scanline: compiling bzflag? |
| 00:08.08 | scanline | hehe |
| 00:08.21 | scanline | I mean, maybe I could make a msvc++ project for fyre |
| 00:08.23 | scanline | but that would be sill |
| 00:08.25 | scanline | +y |
| 00:08.33 | scanline | much rather just maintain one build system |
| 00:10.13 | *** join/#tacobeam JB_CSGC (~JB_CSGC@c-67-165-200-139.client.comcast.net) |
| 00:10.22 | CIA-3 | navi-misc: 03micah * r7015 10cia/tools/ (io_throttle.py remote_backup.sh): Use the rewritten io-throttle tool (now in the 'uml-tools' navi-misc module) and stick the output in the current user's homedir rather than on /navi |
| 00:10.36 | JB_CSGC | hey guys |
| 00:10.48 | scanline | hello |
| 00:10.57 | scanline | is this james? |
| 00:11.00 | JB_CSGC | sure is |
| 00:11.04 | JB_CSGC | (hi cory) |
| 00:11.04 | scanline | neato |
| 00:11.05 | darth_mall | I'm pretty impressed with the bad grammar and spelling mistakes in all these docs... |
| 00:11.09 | scanline | who finally talked you into getting on IRC? :) |
| 00:11.22 | JB_CSGC | lol i had to ask you a question |
| 00:11.25 | JB_CSGC | hey darth |
| 00:11.28 | JB_CSGC | (jen?) |
| 00:11.50 | darth_mall | ouch, that hurts |
| 00:12.01 | JB_CSGC | no huh |
| 00:12.03 | scanline | hmm.. odd how JB_CSGC seems to know who I am but not everyone else |
| 00:12.12 | darth_mall | scanline: you just exude... yourself |
| 00:12.16 | JB_CSGC | its cause i found the thingy on the DINO software website |
| 00:12.20 | scanline | ah, right |
| 00:12.27 | JB_CSGC | ie contact info lol |
| 00:12.30 | scanline | silly slimspace, giving away valuable secret contact info |
| 00:12.42 | JB_CSGC | oh its evan |
| 00:12.45 | darth_mall | sekret kontakt inpho! |
| 00:12.47 | JB_CSGC | hey evan, sorry |
| 00:12.50 | darth_mall | ^^ |
| 00:13.03 | JB_CSGC | (im gettin used to this IRC thing again) |
| 00:13.04 | scanline | woo |
| 00:13.05 | JB_CSGC | anyway |
| 00:13.13 | scanline | the new token throttler is working on remote backups too |
| 00:13.37 | JB_CSGC | is there a copy of the CX software on rex? |
| 00:13.38 | scanline | made a typo the first time and it ended up draining my tokens down to 150k or so before I killed it :P |
| 00:13.40 | JB_CSGC | i couldnt find it |
| 00:13.57 | scanline | JB_CSGC: there's a link to the subversion repository on there |
| 00:14.04 | scanline | it's at http://rex.colorado.edu/svn/misc/trunk/ |
| 00:14.17 | scanline | you can browse it with a web browser, or grab TortoiseSVN to check out a copy |
| 00:14.28 | scanline | if you want the old software, it's still in CVS on thinker |
| 00:14.31 | JB_CSGC | is this CX's stuff then? |
| 00:14.31 | darth_mall | this 7up is bigger than my initial co of the repos |
| 00:14.38 | scanline | JB_CSGC: it's CX and Dino stuff |
| 00:14.49 | JB_CSGC | cool, thanks scanline |
| 00:15.00 | scanline | np. looking for something in particular? |
| 00:15.11 | JB_CSGC | i got an itch to mess with it |
| 00:15.26 | scanline | ok. you should definitely grab an svn client then if you don't already have one |
| 00:15.35 | JB_CSGC | yeah, ill pick one up |
| 00:15.37 | CIA-3 | spacegrant: 03evan * r1011 10doc-misc/adcs/simulink_crap/igrf/a.out: Why is this still here? |
| 00:15.40 | scanline | hehe |
| 00:15.48 | scanline | best binary format evar! |
| 00:16.03 | purple_cow | hehe |
| 00:16.23 | scanline | isn't it great how messy most people let their code get when it isn't in version control? |
| 00:16.24 | darth_mall | there are at least 5 or 6 copies of every file |
| 00:16.40 | scanline | sounds a lot like what I had to clean up when I first moved the microcontroller source code into CVS |
| 00:16.45 | darth_mall | usually with one or two lines of difference, but I can't know which to keep without looking over the entire thing |
| 00:16.48 | darth_mall | it's disgusting |
| 00:17.03 | scanline | yep, exactly the state I found the microcontroller code in |
| 00:17.04 | file[laptop] | pretzels for all |
| 00:17.05 | darth_mall | and I think Ty had some of his homework in with it, but it's hard to say |
| 00:17.09 | scanline | haha |
| 00:17.17 | darth_mall | there's a bunch of hw*.mdl files |
| 00:17.48 | darth_mall | but first, I should e-mail kendra about these docs she sent me |
| 00:19.28 | scanline | wow, cockburn's site is ugly |
| 00:21.27 | purple_cow | yepo |
| 00:21.52 | scanline | oh no, we must have been boring James |
| 00:22.14 | nullpuppy | non sense! |
| 00:22.28 | file[laptop] | nullpuppy! |
| 00:22.33 | nullpuppy | file! |
| 00:23.43 | file[laptop] | how goeth it? |
| 00:23.57 | nullpuppy | it goeth goodth |
| 00:24.16 | *** join/#tacobeam JeffM2501 (~jeffm@Patlabor221.active.supporter.pdpc) |
| 00:24.32 | scanline | hmm |
| 00:24.34 | purple_cow | hmm, so i have no idea why that readme thing isn't working |
| 00:24.39 | purple_cow | looks like it's setting the correct path |
| 00:24.56 | scanline | purple_cow: maybe I was wrong.. I can't actually find any big I/O spikes in the log that I can't account for with webalizer |
| 00:25.19 | darth_mall | purple_cow, scanline: if you'd like, I have a ton of index cards. you're welcome to some for this assignment |
| 00:25.21 | purple_cow | hurray! |
| 00:25.29 | scanline | eep, index cards |
| 00:25.37 | purple_cow | darth_mall: i was just gonna do it all in tomboy and then format it in inkscape |
| 00:27.01 | purple_cow | darth_mall: it is kind of a pain in the ass |
| 00:27.10 | purple_cow | at least we're actually *doing* something now |
| 00:27.39 | purple_cow | scanline: would you be heartbroken if we just removed the readme kerjigger from the installer? |
| 00:27.52 | scanline | nah. it's just kinda weird that it wouldn't work |
| 00:28.27 | scanline | oh |
| 00:28.31 | scanline | that's why |
| 00:28.50 | scanline | the $INSTDIR variable is an NSIS variable, not a variable in that shell script, and I forgot to escape it |
| 00:29.13 | CIA-3 | navi-misc: 03micah 07fyre-1.0 * r7016 10/build/dist-win32.sh: The $INSTDIR variable should be escaped |
| 00:29.33 | scanline | heh |
| 00:29.41 | darth_mall | scanline: do you have a url for this website |
| 00:29.50 | darth_mall | the cockburn thing |
| 00:29.52 | scanline | http://alistair.cockburn.us/usecases/usecases.html |
| 00:29.54 | darth_mall | thanks |
| 00:30.27 | scanline | bleh |
| 00:30.28 | *** join/#tacobeam JB_CSGC (~JB_CSGC@c-67-165-200-139.client.comcast.net) |
| 00:30.36 | scanline | the author page puts us in debt by about 20k tokens |
| 00:30.36 | JB_CSGC | (mmmm automated) |
| 00:30.41 | scanline | kinda crappy, but not catastrophic |
| 00:30.56 | scanline | wb james |
| 00:31.02 | JB_CSGC | ty |
| 00:31.13 | JB_CSGC | i am now a fan of chatzilla for firefox |
| 00:32.34 | CIA-3 | navi-misc: 03micah * r7017 10cia/LibCIA/Web/Stats/Catalog.py: Re-enable the author and project catalogs. They're still awfully resource hungry, but not catastrophically so. The big I/O spikes I was seeing were actaully from webalizer, and that now has a rate limiter on it. |
| 00:34.23 | scanline | purple_cow: uploading the new builds to flapjack's releases/fyre/testing |
| 00:35.40 | scanline | purple_cow: the .exe just finished |
| 00:36.00 | purple_cow | wow, cool |
| 00:36.00 | purple_cow | http://www.abqjournal.com/paperboy/ia/scitech/307139science02-19-05.htm |
| 00:36.16 | scanline | purple_cow: also, since you have XP, could you test that fyre running in server mode will exit cleanly? |
| 00:36.32 | scanline | I tested it a tiny bit on the machines at school, but not really enough |
| 00:37.13 | purple_cow | yay, shows the readme |
| 00:37.17 | scanline | yay |
| 00:37.34 | purple_cow | for quitting server mode, i should just ctrl+c? |
| 00:37.39 | scanline | try just closing the window |
| 00:37.41 | scanline | it should detect that |
| 00:37.46 | scanline | but trying ctrl+c would also be good to test |
| 00:37.52 | purple_cow | "finished" and closed |
| 00:37.55 | scanline | cool |
| 00:38.05 | purple_cow | yep |
| 00:38.07 | scanline | yay |
| 00:38.30 | laodamas | scanline: you should have fyre run as an NT service |
| 00:38.32 | scanline | it's amusing that windows has an API very similar to unix signal handlers |
| 00:38.37 | CIA-3 | navi-misc: 03jupiter 07fyre-1.0.0 * r7018 10/fyre-1.0/: tag again |
| 00:38.37 | scanline | laodamas: patches welcome |
| 00:38.46 | scanline | hmm |
| 00:38.51 | scanline | purple_cow: you can do that without removing the old tag? |
| 00:39.09 | purple_cow | heh, whoops |
| 00:39.14 | purple_cow | http://navi/svn/misc/tags/fyre-1.0.0/fyre-1.0/ |
| 00:39.17 | scanline | hehe |
| 00:39.42 | CIA-3 | navi-misc: 03jupiter 07fyre-1.0.0 * r7019 10/: remove the tag :P |
| 00:39.56 | CIA-3 | navi-misc: 03jupiter 07fyre-1.0.0 * r7020 10/: tag |
| 00:40.14 | JB_CSGC | i would be if i were paying enough attention |
| 00:40.21 | scanline | so.. I guess we just need a new .tar.gz? |
| 00:40.26 | scanline | the autopackage probably doesn't need updating |
| 00:40.37 | purple_cow | scanline: i'm going to be cutting a new dist in a tick |
| 00:40.57 | purple_cow | autopackage would need updating if it contains the readme |
| 00:41.10 | scanline | laodamas: I think there's a todo list item for giving it a systray doodad in windows that you could use to check on its status while it's running in the background |
| 00:41.15 | scanline | laodamas: might be a 1.0.1 thing |
| 00:41.55 | scanline | at that point I'd probably want to separate the bits of windows-specific code out of main.c :) |
| 00:42.08 | scanline | there's already a good sized chunk for managing console windows |
| 00:42.09 | JB_CSGC | scanline: this tortoisesvn thing is sweet, hooray for extensions |
| 00:42.18 | scanline | JB_CSGC: yep. I loves it |
| 00:42.21 | laodamas | scanline: neat |
| 00:42.40 | purple_cow | scanline: not yet, i think |
| 00:42.53 | purple_cow | probably would be pretty easy to do with the python-nautilus stuff now |
| 00:43.04 | scanline | hmm. google finds a couple mailing list posts asking about it, and suggesting python-nautilus :) |
| 00:43.06 | laodamas | now if there were native bindings to gtk2 in MacOS X everything would be happy |
| 00:43.11 | purple_cow | http://flapjack.navi.cx/releases/fyre/ |
| 00:43.11 | purple_cow | =D |
| 00:43.19 | scanline | yay! |
| 00:44.06 | scanline | so it'd be nice to, in addition to a change summary, have the news item give an idea of what we have planned for 1.0 and 2.0 |
| 00:45.47 | scanline | hah |
| 00:45.48 | JB_CSGC | scanline: are the init scripts for the flight and ground sw the flight.py and ground.py in the mck folder? |
| 00:45.58 | scanline | JB_CSGC: those are the entry points, yes |
| 00:46.09 | JB_CSGC | ty |
| 00:46.23 | scanline | JB_CSGC: most of the ground UI is hardcoded in that disturbingly huge glade file, but flight.py expects arguments indicating which package to use and which mission to run |
| 00:46.46 | JB_CSGC | rgr |
| 00:47.06 | CIA-3 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r7021 10fyre/web/news.content: update news |
| 00:47.32 | purple_cow | scanline: hows that look? |
| 00:47.37 | scanline | hmm. I just noticed that the new site has them crazy paragraph indentations |
| 00:47.59 | scanline | cool. |
| 00:48.07 | scanline | we might as well announce the autopackage at the same time |
| 00:48.17 | purple_cow | scanline: i want to make sure the autopackage is up to date first |
| 00:48.22 | purple_cow | TD: pokepokepokepoke |
| 00:48.34 | TD | ow! |
| 00:48.40 | TD | hmm |
| 00:48.41 | purple_cow | TD: does the autopackage contain a readme? |
| 00:48.45 | TD | it changed since i rebuilt it? |
| 00:48.48 | scanline | purple_cow: it'd be nice to update it, but if TD isn't here worst we get is a slightly different --help and readme |
| 00:48.50 | scanline | oh, hi TD :) |
| 00:49.05 | scanline | purple_cow: we could also always release 1.0.0-r2 or something for individual packages |
| 00:49.22 | TD | no README, no. do binary packages normally contain readmes? |
| 00:49.36 | scanline | the --help text also changed slightly |
| 00:49.38 | TD | i mean, i know RPMs on fedora often do. but i never actually read any of the READMEs installed by them |
| 00:49.39 | TD | ah ok |
| 00:49.42 | TD | sure, i'll rebuild then |
| 00:49.44 | scanline | but I dunno if that's even worth worrying about |
| 00:49.55 | TD | up to you |
| 00:49.57 | scanline | the windows binary package has a README :P |
| 00:50.09 | TD | what does it do with it, put it in the start menu? |
| 00:50.15 | scanline | yeah |
| 00:50.33 | CIA-3 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r7022 10fyre/web/news.content: add a link to the autopackage that will be there in a minute |
| 00:50.36 | TD | no real equivalent on linux for doing that. you can whack it in /usr/share/doc or wherever is correct for your distro |
| 00:50.42 | TD | but i wouldn't bet on people actually reading it |
| 00:50.43 | scanline | but windows does have that silly tradition of having an entire menu for each program |
| 00:50.51 | TD | maybe we should have a "read the readme" button at the end |
| 00:50.56 | scanline | actually, we should link to the README on the web site |
| 00:51.18 | scanline | purple_cow: how about at the beginning or end of that list we link to the readme and changelog from tags/fyre-1.0.0 |
| 00:51.44 | purple_cow | scanline: go ahead - should wait to svn up on flapjack until TD's package is ready |
| 00:51.48 | scanline | k |
| 00:52.53 | TD | so do you want me to ship the README? if so, where should it go? |
| 00:53.00 | TD | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:53.19 | scanline | probably isn't a point I guess, doubt anyone will know where to look for it |
| 00:53.51 | TD | i'll stick support for readmes into the autopackage todo list |
| 00:54.32 | CIA-3 | navi-misc: 03micah * r7023 10fyre/web/news.content: Add links to the README and ChangeLog, make sure we refer to the branch as 1.0 and this release as 1.0.0 |
| 00:55.15 | *** join/#tacobeam lalo (~lalo@211.99.140.115) |
| 00:55.32 | CIA-3 | autopackage: 03mike * 10autopackage/main/TODO: Add some new TODO items |
| 00:56.06 | scanline | there's really no reason to download a .gz any more :) |
| 00:56.45 | scanline | I mean, it saves tens of kilobytes! |
| 00:57.10 | purple_cow | heh |
| 00:57.20 | scanline | hmm |
| 00:57.26 | scanline | methinks we need icons for more of the news items |
| 01:00.07 | scanline | hmm |
| 01:01.48 | laodamas | according to the BBC, the "son of the mask is like home alone meets the exorcist 2" |
| 01:02.10 | TD | scanline: navi.cx/~mike/fyre-1.0.0.x86.package |
| 01:03.10 | purple_cow | hurray |
| 01:03.25 | TD | thanks! |
| 01:04.23 | purple_cow | http://gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=702 |
| 01:04.35 | TD | scanline: yeah, gzip is going to die an instant death on the desktop in about a year or two when cpu cache sizes get big enough to hold the dictionary ... |
| 01:04.43 | scanline | :) |
| 01:04.59 | TD | spiffy! |
| 01:05.00 | purple_cow | yay, and freshmeat submission is made |
| 01:05.31 | scanline | yay! |
| 01:05.51 | TD | cowabunga! |
| 01:05.58 | *** topic/#tacobeam by purple_cow -> Let us out! We cooked our shoes in the dryer and ate them, and now we're bored! || http://www.brains4zombies.com/ || Love us, for fyre 1.0.0 is here! |
| 01:05.59 | TD | now just to get ChipX86|Gone to pimp it in his blog :) |
| 01:06.15 | scanline | :) |
| 01:11.32 | purple_cow | should probably submit that new ebuild to bugs.gentoo.org too |
| 01:12.22 | purple_cow | wow |
| 01:12.32 | purple_cow | my sister set a personal best at her gymnastics meet today |
| 01:13.04 | purple_cow | so |
| 01:13.07 | purple_cow | we should all go upstairs |
| 01:13.11 | purple_cow | revel in the glow of release |
| 01:13.12 | purple_cow | watch stuff |
| 01:13.15 | purple_cow | and break the honor code |
| 01:13.28 | scanline | wait |
| 01:13.32 | scanline | I'm updating the web page a tiny bit :P |
| 01:13.46 | purple_cow | and maybe order pete's while we're at it |
| 01:13.54 | CIA-3 | navi-misc: 03micah * r7024 10fyre/web/ (4 files in 2 dirs): Add icon-fu a bit |
| 01:14.29 | scanline | svn: Can't open file '.svn/lock': Permission denied |
| 01:14.29 | scanline | blah |
| 01:14.59 | purple_cow | hehe, nice update |
| 01:14.59 | scanline | aw |
| 01:15.09 | scanline | the icon doesn't look too great with that box there |
| 01:15.17 | purple_cow | maybe float it left? |
| 01:15.22 | scanline | k |
| 01:15.54 | purple_cow | i wonder if you could do something like p:first-child img {float: left} |
| 01:16.10 | scanline | might as well always float left for consistency |
| 01:16.24 | purple_cow | yikes |
| 01:16.25 | scanline | erg, need to update the padding too |
| 01:16.47 | scanline | bleh |
| 01:16.54 | scanline | that sucks too |
| 01:17.02 | purple_cow | maybe float it right beside the list? |
| 01:17.22 | scanline | k |
| 01:18.22 | scanline | ah, that's better |
| 01:18.31 | purple_cow | :) |
| 01:18.56 | scanline | oh no! |
| 01:18.57 | scanline | errors! |
| 01:19.04 | purple_cow | scandalous! |
| 01:20.29 | scanline | can't put <ul> inside <p> |
| 01:20.34 | scanline | and we were missing some alt tags |
| 01:20.53 | purple_cow | ;-) |
| 01:20.54 | scanline | I know |
| 01:21.05 | purple_cow | but we still love you |
| 01:21.09 | scanline | yay! |
| 01:21.21 | scanline | oh no, CSS errors too |
| 01:21.26 | scanline | well, one of them |
| 01:21.41 | scanline | oof |
| 01:21.45 | scanline | flapjack's getting a bit slow |
| 01:22.30 | purple_cow | heh, cool |
| 01:22.40 | purple_cow | we now own 2 of the top 10 slots for "fyre" |
| 01:22.58 | scanline | :) |
| 01:23.09 | purple_cow | take that, all you teenage geeks who think "icy fyre" is a cool name for your role-playing characters! |
| 01:23.14 | scanline | hehe |
| 01:23.47 | scanline | yay, web site is all pretty and release-filled |
| 01:24.14 | purple_cow | :D |
| 01:26.06 | purple_cow | hmm, how many people were eating when we did that pizza thing? |
| 01:26.39 | scanline | wow |
| 01:26.52 | scanline | fyre is so fast on yoshi.. I've been developing mostly on my laptop for a while |
| 01:27.29 | scanline | 2.6e6? maybe the autopackage also has some optimizations I don't normally turn on |
| 01:32.08 | laodamas | fyre submitted to the fink project |
| 01:32.19 | purple_cow | :D |
| 01:32.24 | scanline | yay! |
| 01:33.49 | purple_cow | should presumably be in debian soon too |
| 01:33.54 | scanline | nice |
| 01:34.33 | scanline | more programs need to be CPU hungry in a really sweet way, like Fyre |
| 01:36.24 | laodamas | hmm I should write a fink package that installs fyre in daemon mode |
| 01:38.38 | scanline | huh |
| 01:38.43 | scanline | http://flapjack.navi.cx/monitor/diskio/io_status-hour.gif |
| 01:38.47 | scanline | wonder how that happened |
| 01:38.57 | purple_cow | wow |
| 01:39.43 | CIA-3 | navi-misc: 03micah 07fyre-1.0 * r7026 10/TODO: More preferences would be nice- the number of history items we save, for example. |
| 01:41.25 | purple_cow | so |
| 01:41.29 | purple_cow | ordering food and watching stuff? |
| 01:41.42 | scanline | sure. lemme patch CIA back together first :( |
| 01:42.42 | laodamas | purple_cow: please tell me if the fyre1.0.0 tarballs change. I will need to update MD5 checksums if you do |
| 01:43.01 | purple_cow | laodamas: the ones currently in releases/fyre are final |
| 01:43.12 | *** join/#tacobeam samyb (~samy@212.76.79.243) |
| 01:43.13 | laodamas | good :) |
| 01:43.26 | scanline | grrrrrrrar |
| 01:43.38 | scanline | should never have re-enabled those author/project pages |
| 01:43.43 | purple_cow | :( |
| 01:44.25 | scanline | they aren't nearly as much I/O as a webalizer run, but it seems that they get requested frequently enough that CIA will go into a death spiral every once and a while anyway |
| 01:46.01 | CIA-3 | navi-misc: 03micah * r7027 10cia/LibCIA/Web/Stats/Catalog.py: |
| 01:46.01 | CIA-3 | navi-misc: Disable the author and project catalogs again. Apparently they were in fact a |
| 01:46.01 | CIA-3 | navi-misc: major contributor to CIA's I/O problems, so they're staying off until I write |
| 01:46.01 | CIA-3 | navi-misc: some code to let users browse them a few at a time rather than all at once. |
| 01:46.08 | scanline | yay, CIA's fairly speedy again |
| 01:49.35 | KeyserLaptop | any of you guys try eclipse? |
| 01:49.42 | darth_mall | someone really needs to teach Anderson how to make a slideshow presentation |
| 01:50.07 | KeyserLaptop | hehe. does he not do it, or does he do it poorly? |
| 01:53.26 | darth_mall | he does it poorly, IMO |
| 01:54.50 | purple_cow | very poorly |
| 01:54.52 | darth_mall | purple_cow: I know I'm breaking every rule in the book by asking you about our hw, but I'm curious, how many use cases did you come up with? |
| 01:56.32 | purple_cow | darth_mall: 3 - you should join us out here for some food-ordering/futurama+mythbusters-watching/honor-code-breaking fun |
| 01:56.52 | scanline | Mozilla Spacebunny! |
| 01:57.27 | darth_mall | purple_cow: I'm not sure if I'm really in a social mood just yet, maybe later |
| 01:57.42 | purple_cow | :( |
| 01:58.05 | darth_mall | purple_cow: perhaps when the food is here I'll come out for a bit |
| 01:58.16 | darth_mall | but I really have to focus on this hw, since I have a crapton to do |
| 01:58.27 | file[laptop] | the potato, the potato, the potato's eating my foot |
| 01:58.36 | purple_cow | someone other than me should order, given the fortune i'm currently owed ;-) |
| 02:00.42 | scanline | yep, it's a menu |
| 02:03.41 | darth_mall | wow... I never paid you for Dec. gas, huh? |
| 02:04.38 | scanline | wow, I owe even more than darth_mall |
| 02:05.01 | file[laptop] | owing money is bad mmmk? |
| 02:06.06 | darth_mall | purple_cow: you need to speak up more often about it, since I rarely see the bills come in ^^ |
| 02:06.20 | pagefault_ | file owes me lots of potatos |
| 02:06.42 | file[laptop] | pagefault_: Swiss Chalet! Airport! YES! |
| 02:06.43 | darth_mall | unless it's your diabolical plan to allow scanline and me to get so much indebted that we owe you our very souls |
| 02:06.50 | pagefault_ | file[laptop], yes |
| 02:06.53 | pagefault_ | a must |
| 02:06.59 | darth_mall | which is a very good plan, IMO |
| 02:07.10 | file[laptop] | pagefault_: indeed |
| 02:13.09 | purple_cow | darth_mall: damn, you've figured it out |
| 02:14.08 | darth_mall | purple_cow: sorry |
| 02:20.53 | purple_cow | people should decide what they're eating and order =P |
| 02:23.03 | scanline | I can call |
| 02:23.20 | scanline | what do you want? |
| 02:25.16 | scanline | hmm |
| 02:25.22 | scanline | purple_cow's choice sounds awfully good |
| 02:26.50 | darth_mall | scanline: big fish with cheese, sourcream, medium salsa, onions, and olives |
| 02:27.59 | scanline | thanks |
| 02:28.48 | KeyserLaptop | why did I think a tuna burger sounded like a good idea? |
| 02:30.31 | darth_mall | oooh tuna |
| 02:30.58 | KeyserLaptop | yeah, but it wasn't a nice tuna steak, grilled properly. and it wasn't tuna salad, which is also good. |
| 02:31.14 | KeyserLaptop | it was coarsely ground tuna made into a patty, and then cooked like a hamburger |
| 02:31.30 | KeyserLaptop | in retrospect, it doesn't make any sense at all |
| 02:32.38 | darth_mall | lol |
| 02:32.46 | darth_mall | sounds intriguing |
| 02:33.01 | KeyserLaptop | hehe. that's what i thought when i read the description |
| 02:35.09 | KeyserLaptop | hmmm. FlightGear is an exceedingly well thought out application |
| 02:35.48 | KeyserLaptop | they write nice code, too. |
| 02:36.55 | KeyserLaptop | they've got a built in facility to have multiple instance of the flight simulator on seperate machine's communicate in a master/slave relationship, so that you can fly the plane on one machine, but have others with their own graphics cards and monitors displaying your flight |
| 02:36.59 | darth_mall | hmmm... now I'm curious to see purple_cow's use cases for this assignment |
| 02:37.05 | darth_mall | because I'm going to end up with more than 3 |
| 02:37.46 | purple_cow | darth_mall: each of mine has several extensions |
| 02:38.41 | darth_mall | purple_cow: did you do one case for submission, one case for the editors' reviews, and one for the peer reviews? |
| 02:39.44 | purple_cow | one for submission, one for selecting an action editor and one for selecting reviewers and a review cycle |
| 02:39.50 | purple_cow | i should probably split that last one into 2 |
| 02:40.16 | darth_mall | ah |
| 02:43.01 | purple_cow | being a robot's great, but, well, we don't have emotions, and sometimes that makes me really sad |
| 02:44.16 | KeyserLaptop | kinda like for video conferencing |
| 02:44.41 | KeyserLaptop | if any packets are lost the first time they are sent, it'll be worse to get them late than not at all |
| 02:45.15 | file[laptop] | anything with audio/video delivery always goes with UDP... |
| 02:45.58 | KeyserLaptop | yes, if it's streaming |
| 02:46.15 | KeyserLaptop | and since this is just gonna drive the display, the same principle applies |
| 02:46.20 | file[laptop] | aye |
| 02:50.23 | scanline | purple_cow: freevo is capitalizing the title all weird :P |
| 02:50.29 | scanline | Anthology Of Interest Ii |
| 02:51.32 | darth_mall | hmm... tomboy is really good for doing these use cases |
| 02:53.16 | purple_cow | darth_mall: :) |
| 02:54.59 | purple_cow | drop down, increase speed, reverse direction! |
| 02:55.12 | darth_mall | heh |
| 02:55.26 | darth_mall | hrm... water... |
| 03:02.14 | KeyserLaptop | any of you guys fans of UltraEdit? |
| 03:02.26 | KeyserLaptop | or have a favorite syntax-highlighting editor? |
| 03:04.11 | purple_cow | vim? emacs? |
| 03:06.09 | KeyserLaptop | purple_cow: is one of those your favorite? I would be very surprised if both are equally dear to you |
| 03:06.11 | darth_mall | oooh... is that food? |
| 03:06.37 | darth_mall | KeyserLaptop: I prefer vim, personally |
| 03:07.31 | purple_cow | KeyserLaptop: i use vim, but they're both equally capable |
| 03:07.46 | purple_cow | just depends on whether you like keybindings like alt-esc-ctrl-; |
| 03:07.56 | KeyserLaptop | one thing that's nice in ultra edit, is you can ctrl-h to switch to hex view |
| 03:08.14 | KeyserLaptop | and the status bar shows the location in the file your cursor is at, and how many bytes you have highlighted |
| 03:08.40 | CIA-3 | navi-misc: 03micah * r7028 10spreadfs/spreadfs.py: Refrain from trying to update stat() info on a directory that no longer exists |
| 03:09.14 | KeyserLaptop | it handles searching over multiple files really well, too. you can search a directory (and subdirs), or search the files you have open. and regular expression searches work |
| 03:10.21 | KeyserLaptop | can you view hex in vim or emacs easily? |
| 03:10.22 | purple_cow | mmm food |
| 03:10.34 | file[laptop] | is it very yummy? |
| 03:10.50 | KeyserLaptop | i was dissapointed to see the linux version of scite doesn't do it, i was nearly positive the windows version does. |
| 03:11.08 | KeyserLaptop | so i did hexdump to a file, and then opened the file in scite. very lame :( |
| 03:11.58 | KeyserLaptop | i probably just haven't used vim enough to learn to do all the things i already know how to do in ultraedit |
| 03:12.20 | KeyserLaptop | i only use it for editing stuff in /etc, and then only when nano isn't on that machine :D |
| 03:13.36 | KeyserLaptop | me too, but it's never confusing how to do things like save and exit |
| 03:14.29 | darth_mall | KeyserLaptop: I've usually found vim to be pretty straight forward, but I never had any problems with emacs back when I knew how to use it |
| 03:14.51 | scanline | :wq isn't that hard to remember :P |
| 03:14.53 | KeyserLaptop | hehe. i still don't know how to use emacs |
| 03:16.00 | darth_mall | slimspace: how many did you have when all was said and done? |
| 03:16.02 | KeyserLaptop | can either vi or emacs do the hex mode editing I described above? |
| 03:16.05 | file[laptop] | is everyone doing use cases? |
| 03:16.07 | slimspace | darth_mall: 4 |
| 03:16.15 | darth_mall | file[laptop]: it's for a class |
| 03:16.27 | slimspace | darth_mall: I split the last one into two, one for selecting reviewers, and one for the actual process of a reviewer reviewing. |
| 03:16.30 | file[laptop] | ah |
| 03:16.49 | scanline | KeyserLaptop: I'm sure you can find a hex editing mode for either, but I haven't loked |
| 03:16.52 | scanline | er, looked |
| 03:18.20 | KeyserLaptop | i'm installing eclipse now, maybe i'll like their editor |
| 03:18.32 | purple_cow | yay, iZac |
| 03:19.29 | purple_cow | bleh |
| 03:19.37 | scanline | yay green chile |
| 03:19.38 | purple_cow | imminent structural failure caused me to eat that burrito way too fast |
| 03:21.43 | *** join/#tacobeam JB_CSGC (~JB_CSGC@c-67-165-200-139.client.comcast.net) |
| 03:21.46 | *** topic/#tacobeam by purple_cow -> BUFFET: all you can eat, plus a whole chicken || http://www.brains4zombies.com/ || Love us, for fyre 1.0.0 is here! |
| 03:21.58 | scanline | :) |
| 03:22.43 | JB_CSGC | hey guys |
| 03:23.07 | scanline | hello |
| 03:23.38 | JB_CSGC | hey scanline, how do i specify project and mission for flight.py? |
| 03:23.55 | slimspace | flight.py Cx Dummy |
| 03:23.59 | slimspace | that's what I use |
| 03:24.13 | JB_CSGC | so it knows the relative paths then? |
| 03:24.28 | scanline | JB_CSGC: it has a --help option |
| 03:24.39 | slimspace | yeah. It's just the project (Cx or Dino) and the mission file (Dummy or Flight or whatever) without the .py file. |
| 03:25.00 | slimspace | s/.py file/.py extension/ |
| 03:25.10 | JB_CSGC | ty |
| 03:26.13 | slimspace | scanline, purple_cow, darth_mall: anyone know where the CRC card examples are online? |
| 03:26.24 | purple_cow | slimspace: not really |
| 03:26.41 | slimspace | I'm not, I'm in Aurora. I'll be back tomorrow night though |
| 03:27.02 | darth_mall | yay tomorrow |
| 03:28.13 | slimspace | ~fishslap anderson |
| 03:28.15 | jbot | ACTION slaps anderson up side the head with a wet fish. |
| 03:28.38 | slimspace | ah, here we go |
| 03:29.06 | darth_mall | yay slimspace |
| 03:29.32 | slimspace | apparently lecture 6 has it |
| 03:31.58 | JB_CSGC | (whats the cleanest way to stop the fsw?) |
| 03:32.09 | darth_mall | hi JB_CSGC |
| 03:32.10 | slimspace | ctrl+C |
| 03:32.13 | darth_mall | heh |
| 03:32.19 | JB_CSGC | hey evan |
| 03:32.32 | JB_CSGC | k, ty |
| 03:32.46 | JB_CSGC | (yay it seems to run with a minimum of effort on my part) |
| 03:32.54 | JB_CSGC | (thank you) |
| 03:33.00 | slimspace | ah |
| 03:33.03 | darth_mall | silly slimspace |
| 03:33.05 | JB_CSGC | <---lazy typist |
| 03:33.14 | darth_mall | ~yow |
| 03:33.30 | slimspace | JB_CSGC: if only you were as lazy a talker... |
| 03:33.35 | darth_mall | lol |
| 03:33.35 | JB_CSGC | lol |
| 03:33.46 | JB_CSGC | i am lazy, im so lazy i want to talk fast so i can get it out and stop talking |
| 03:33.55 | darth_mall | hehe |
| 03:34.03 | slimspace | ^^ |
| 03:35.01 | JB_CSGC | i was going to make some sort of joke about how flight.py was the entire flight software, but i realized im not clever enough to make that sound anything but dumb |
| 03:35.23 | darth_mall | moo? |
| 03:35.27 | JB_CSGC | sooo... [<funny comment>] |
| 03:35.33 | darth_mall | lol |
| 03:35.36 | slimspace | lol |
| 03:41.52 | purple_cow | please, fry, i don't know how to teach, i'm a professor! |
| 03:42.23 | scanline | =D |
| 03:44.08 | CIA-3 | *purr* |
| 03:48.56 | darth_mall | slimspace: how come you don't hang out in #xchat-gnome with us? |
| 03:49.04 | slimspace | hmm, I should |
| 03:49.09 | darth_mall | hmm, you should |
| 03:53.01 | slimspace | yay xdmx getting all laggy and stuff |
| 03:53.14 | darth_mall | yay slimspace and his craaaaaaaaaazy set up |
| 03:59.41 | slimspace | wow, both of my Xvnc sessions are taking 30mb each... |
| 04:06.42 | JB_CSGC | anybody have any idea how to use command line arguments in windows shortcuts? |
| 04:06.56 | scanline | you put them in after the path to the binary |
| 04:07.12 | scanline | just like on the command line |
| 04:07.16 | JB_CSGC | yeah it doesnt like that |
| 04:07.32 | JB_CSGC | "E:\!School Stuff\Space Grant\Software\mck\flight.py Cx Dummy" |
| 04:07.50 | scanline | try something like "c:\python23\python.exe foo.py args" |
| 04:08.00 | JB_CSGC | aha good point |
| 04:08.10 | scanline | windows can't just run scripts like that.. it only works in the shell because of file associations |
| 04:08.50 | slimspace | hmm... |
| 04:09.00 | slimspace | JB_CSGC: you might try adding the arguments outside the quotes |
| 04:09.11 | scanline | that too |
| 04:09.18 | darth_mall | moo? |
| 04:09.57 | JB_CSGC | slimspace: that was the trick, ty |
| 04:10.19 | slimspace | thought so. I knew command line arguments could be supplied to windows shortcuts. |
| 04:10.30 | JB_CSGC | me too, i just couldnt remember the specifics |
| 04:10.48 | scanline | heh |
| 04:13.17 | purple_cow | what if the secret ingredient....is PEOPLE?! |
| 04:13.22 | purple_cow | no, there's already a soda like that... |
| 04:13.24 | JB_CSGC | no wait theres. |
| 04:13.26 | JB_CSGC | damn |
| 04:13.29 | JB_CSGC | i was going to finish the quote |
| 04:13.30 | JB_CSGC | :) |
| 04:14.51 | purple_cow | such a disgusting episode... :) |
| 04:15.02 | scanline | disgustingly addictive! |
| 04:15.09 | JB_CSGC | most definitely |
| 04:16.10 | slimspace | is the fyre-1.0.0 ebuild up to date? |
| 04:16.58 | scanline | I'm not sure it's been tested, but I think purple_cow updated it |
| 04:17.12 | slimspace | cool |
| 04:17.27 | purple_cow | yeah, made a couple small changes to both |
| 04:17.39 | purple_cow | should test it and then submit the new one to bugs. |
| 04:17.48 | slimspace | alright |
| 04:18.57 | slimspace | is it only in svn? |
| 04:19.04 | purple_cow | the 1.0.0 ebuild? |
| 04:19.07 | purple_cow | yes |
| 04:19.08 | slimspace | yeah |
| 04:19.10 | slimspace | ah, ok |
| 04:19.46 | scanline | hmm |
| 04:19.56 | scanline | sometime I should update all the screenshots to reflect 1.0.0 |
| 04:20.20 | purple_cow | :) |
| 04:20.25 | scanline | the most recent one was that 'go' menu shot, but even that doesn't have the status bar changes |
| 04:20.33 | scanline | and we need an about box screenshot ;) |
| 04:20.33 | darth_mall | moo? |
| 04:20.48 | scanline | though a screenshot doesn't really do it justice.. so maybe not |
| 04:20.51 | scanline | maybe an animated gif! |
| 04:20.55 | scanline | I'm sure it could fit in 10MB |
| 04:21.02 | darth_mall | GIF! |
| 04:21.11 | scanline | hmm |
| 04:21.22 | scanline | would also be cool to have one of those flash demos :) |
| 04:21.31 | scanline | but I doubt you could get a good one of fyre in a reasonable amount of bandwidth |
| 04:21.40 | purple_cow | wow, a whole series of comments on pineapple waves |
| 04:21.48 | darth_mall | scanline: moo? |
| 04:26.51 | purple_cow | mmmm |
| 04:26.55 | purple_cow | this is a very tasty wine :) |
| 04:27.35 | purple_cow | hehe, lookit all this honor code breaking we're doing |
| 04:29.01 | scanline | I'd probably be joining you except stuff like this makes me incredibly antisocial :( |
| 04:32.25 | JB_CSGC | im guessin the simulator code isnt on SVN |
| 04:32.31 | scanline | it is |
| 04:32.34 | scanline | there just isn't much there yet |
| 04:32.39 | JB_CSGC | ah |
| 04:32.42 | scanline | look at PyMCK.Hardware.Micronet.Devices |
| 04:32.49 | JB_CSGC | aha |
| 04:32.54 | JB_CSGC | just got to know where to look |
| 04:33.01 | JB_CSGC | ty |
| 04:36.35 | scanline | the torrent of freshmeat users is quite tiny on a saturday night ;) |
| 04:37.00 | purple_cow | heh |
| 04:42.23 | slimspace | yay, it works |
| 04:43.11 | purple_cow | :) |
| 04:44.33 | CIA-3 | navi-misc: 03darkstar62 07fyre-1.0.0 * r7029 10/contrib/portage/media-gfx/fyre/ (4 files in 2 dirs): ebuild and patches for 1.0.0 updated |
| 04:44.47 | darth_mall | yay slimspace-commits! |
| 04:46.02 | scanline | hmm |
| 04:46.12 | scanline | slimspace: you committed that to the 1.0.0 tag, not to the 1.0 branch |
| 04:46.35 | darth_mall | oh no |
| 04:47.41 | slimspace | oops |
| 04:48.21 | slimspace | scanline: should I revert the tag? |
| 04:48.25 | scanline | yeah |
| 04:48.29 | slimspace | alright |
| 04:48.34 | pagefault_ | crappy snes |
| 04:48.36 | scanline | the tag should stay exactly as it was when we made the final tarballs |
| 04:48.52 | scanline | doubt it really matters for contrib stuff, but might as well for consistency |
| 04:48.57 | slimspace | ok, I'll just re-download from the last revision and commit that as the latest. |
| 04:49.03 | scanline | er |
| 04:49.12 | scanline | actually reverting might be easier? |
| 04:49.21 | slimspace | there's a revert? |
| 04:49.35 | scanline | svn merge can also revert |
| 04:50.05 | scanline | you'd do something like "svn merge -r7029:7028 <foo>" |
| 04:50.25 | scanline | that keeps svn's metadata intact, whereas just copying new files onto the tag wouldn't |
| 04:52.22 | slimspace | do I need to re-commit then? |
| 04:52.54 | scanline | yes |
| 04:53.16 | scanline | svn merge effectively does a diff between those two revisions then applies it to the local copy |
| 04:53.18 | slimspace | ok, I added files, and now it's telling me it's skipping over the ones that didn't exist. Should I just do an svn rm on those files? |
| 04:53.22 | scanline | except it's a special diff that preserves metadata |
| 04:53.29 | scanline | hmm |
| 04:53.35 | scanline | I thought it would handle that automatically |
| 04:53.44 | slimspace | no, just said it skipped them. |
| 04:54.11 | scanline | worked for me |
| 04:54.14 | scanline | micah@yoshi ~/fyre-1.0.0 $ svn merge -r7029:7028 . |
| 04:54.15 | scanline | D contrib/portage/media-gfx/fyre/files/fyre-1.0.0-initscript.diff |
| 04:54.15 | scanline | D contrib/portage/media-gfx/fyre/files/digest-fyre-1.0.0 |
| 04:54.15 | scanline | D contrib/portage/media-gfx/fyre/files/fyre-1.0.0-nomimeupdates.diff |
| 04:54.15 | scanline | U contrib/portage/media-gfx/fyre/fyre-1.0.0.ebuild |
| 04:54.45 | scanline | maybe you have an old version of svn? |
| 04:55.27 | slimspace | lemme try again |
| 04:56.19 | scanline | that was on a fresh checkout of the fyre-1.0.0 tag |
| 04:56.34 | slimspace | ah, yeah, there it goes |
| 04:56.36 | scanline | should just be able to commit after that merge command and it will all be happily reverted |
| 04:56.37 | scanline | cool |
| 04:56.56 | CIA-3 | navi-misc: 03darkstar62 07fyre-1.0.0 * r7030 10/contrib/portage/media-gfx/fyre/ (4 files in 2 dirs): reverted tags back to normal |
| 04:57.31 | pagefault_ | has fyre changed since that last build I got? |
| 04:57.35 | slimspace | ok, so I want http://navi.cx/svn/misc/branches/fyre-1.0? |
| 04:57.52 | JB_CSGC | i dont suppose anybody can tell me how to start the simulator version of the FSW? |
| 04:58.05 | slimspace | pagefault_: no, I accidently committed to the wrong tag |
| 04:58.17 | scanline | pagefault_: only in really minor ways.. mostly the README and the --help text |
| 04:58.22 | scanline | slimspace: yes |
| 04:58.59 | scanline | JB_CSGC: there isn't a working simulator version really.. but it would just be flight.py with a different hardware module specified on the command line |
| 04:59.36 | JB_CSGC | i was hoping there was a commandline argument :) |
| 04:59.42 | scanline | yes |
| 04:59.57 | CIA-3 | navi-misc: 03darkstar62 07fyre-1.0 * r7031 10/contrib/portage/media-gfx/fyre/ (4 files in 2 dirs): let's try this again |
| 05:00.31 | CIA-3 | navi-misc: 03darkstar62 07fyre-1.0 * r7032 10/contrib/portage/media-gfx/fyre/files/digest-fyre-1.0.0: oops, forgot the digest |
| 05:03.42 | laodamas|away | Fyre should probably install its readme and licence in a %p/share/doc/fyre folder |
| 05:04.26 | slimspace | alright, fyre ebuilds submitted to bugzilla |
| 05:04.27 | darth_mall | uhoh... laodamas is back |
| 05:04.54 | laodamas | or so it seems |
| 05:05.00 | darth_mall | so it seems indeed |
| 05:05.48 | darth_mall | yes! |
| 05:05.58 | pagefault_ | "jerk chicken, jerk beef, jerk pork, is there any meat this man can't jerk?" |
| 05:06.14 | scanline | :) |
| 05:06.15 | darth_mall | hehe |
| 05:06.17 | slimspace | hehe |
| 05:07.15 | laodamas | n00b question: how does one compile a monolithic binary with dependenant libs compiled in? |
| 05:07.46 | scanline | you can make a static binary with the -static flag to ld, but it's often harder than that |
| 05:07.53 | scanline | you need .a versions of your dependencies rather than .so |
| 05:07.59 | scanline | and some libraries act oddly when compiled statically |
| 05:08.05 | laodamas | ah, or .dylib in my case |
| 05:08.13 | purple_cow | .... .dylib? |
| 05:08.18 | scanline | it's usually easier and better to make self-contained packages by including the dynamic libs in some local directory and setting an environment variable to point to them |
| 05:08.34 | scanline | do-it-yourself library? |
| 05:08.59 | laodamas | scanline: thats what I was going to do, but it seemed annoyinng to have to relink everything using otool |
| 05:10.07 | scanline | might be more annoying tracking down static versions of all these libraries |
| 05:10.38 | scanline | I thought I heard about a tool somewhere that would let you link statically to .so files, but if I'm even remembering correctly at all it was pretty experimental |
| 05:11.04 | laodamas | scanline: thanks |
| 05:11.16 | scanline | good luck |
| 05:11.56 | darth_mall | yay he's back! |
| 05:12.05 | slimspace | mmm, much better |
| 05:12.09 | scanline | laodamas: you have to prelink all dynamic libs on OS X? |
| 05:12.16 | scanline | s/prelink/requickstart/ |
| 05:12.33 | purple_cow | scanline: "optimize" |
| 05:12.40 | scanline | ah |
| 05:12.46 | scanline | but optimization is done at compile-time :P |
| 05:12.51 | scanline | silly overloaded terms |
| 05:12.52 | purple_cow | requickstarting is an SGI thing |
| 05:13.03 | laodamas | all libs on os x are dynamic and are searched for by name in either static or relitive paths |
| 05:13.32 | laodamas | I'm talking about the .dylib flavor, not the .framework |
| 05:13.32 | scanline | does it have ld.so-style search paths, where it will check the current directory as well as a few others specified system-wide? |
| 05:14.19 | laodamas | it will check the path hard coded into the binary only |
| 05:14.29 | laodamas | there is no LD_LIBRARY_PATH :( |
| 05:14.44 | scanline | ahh. I didn't realize it included complete paths in the binary rather than just file names |
| 05:15.21 | purple_cow | hmm, what to watch... |
| 05:15.23 | laodamas | scanline: things that are comiled correctly usually have relitive paths coded in them for true relocation |
| 05:15.49 | scanline | ah |
| 05:16.42 | laodamas | non darwin things usually use frameworks though, which are a bit more graceful in their operation |
| 05:18.57 | laodamas | fun, fyre has 19 non-system/X dependant libs |
| 05:19.43 | scanline | I only see 18 in the windows package :P |
| 05:20.26 | scanline | hmm |
| 05:27.41 | laodamas | slimspace: stop being so ethereal |
| 05:28.07 | slimspace | laodamas: sorry :) |
| 05:29.04 | darth_mall | moo? |
| 05:29.13 | laodamas | ?oom |
| 05:33.09 | slimspace | woo¿ |
| 05:33.28 | purple_cow | :) |
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| 05:44.56 | pagefault_ | www.hyperds.com |
| 05:45.00 | pagefault_ | trying to figure out if it's fake |
| 05:51.19 | scanline | if it was a real project, why would they bother making a web site with a couple screenshots and no actual info? |
| 05:51.26 | pagefault_ | too try to be elite |
| 05:55.18 | purple_cow | it's amazing how spock can mindmeld with anything |
| 05:55.31 | purple_cow | even giant pizzas |
| 05:56.08 | darth_mall | piiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiizzzzzzzzzzaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa |
| 05:56.18 | CIA-3 | navi-misc: 03micah * r7033 10fyre/web/favicon.ico: I'm tired of all these 404s |
| 05:56.23 | darth_mall | me too |
| 05:57.13 | purple_cow | heh |
| 05:58.09 | laodamas | my monitor needs metallic and florescent pixels |
| 06:18.22 | purple_cow | it's a good thing the documentation for the "edited" signal on a CellRendererText is so complete |
| 06:19.51 | scanline | har |
| 06:20.52 | purple_cow | it looks like "arg2" is the new value |
| 06:21.10 | purple_cow | no clue what arg1 is |
| 06:21.29 | purple_cow | uh oh, chekov is putting his moves on |
| 06:21.34 | darth_mall | yay moves on |
| 06:24.01 | scanline | hehe, crushed by a runaway semi driven by the incredible hulk |
| 06:24.27 | darth_mall | best way to go ever |
| 06:28.25 | CIA-3 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r7034 10xchat-gnome/fe-gnome/preferences_servers_page.c: more progress towards editing servers in a network |
| 06:28.25 | JB_CSGC | gnight all |
| 06:30.02 | CIA-3 | navi-misc: 03micah * r7035 10fyre/web/ (about.shtml index.shtml style.css): Tweak title spacing, use <h1> instead of a specialized <div> |
| 06:30.35 | purple_cow | wow |
| 06:30.53 | purple_cow | they've killed off 6 redshirts in only 15 minutes |
| 06:32.50 | purple_cow | rofl |
| 06:33.06 | purple_cow | i love how kirk punches the other guy in the face and then says "i won't hurt you" when the guy starts crying |
| 06:35.03 | CIA-3 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r7036 10xchat-gnome/fe-gnome/preferences_servers_page.c: allow editing of the autojoin channel entries |
| 06:39.13 | purple_cow | hah |
| 06:39.28 | purple_cow | i love how the alien guy says "what is love" and when the yeoman starts trying to explain it, chekov snuggles up close |
| 06:39.42 | CIA-3 | navi-misc: 03micah * r7037 10fyre/web/ (about.content style.css): Put the equations in a formatted <pre> box rather than unstylishly jamming them into a short paragraph. |
| 06:40.55 | CIA-3 | navi-misc: 03micah * r7038 10fyre/web/style.css: Er, I guess this should really be using the exact same background and border as the sidebar |
| 06:55.24 | CIA-3 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r7039 10xchat-gnome/fe-gnome/ (Makefile.am irc-network.c irc-network.h): start wrapping this stuff in a gobject, because it's getting unmanageable |
| 06:58.57 | CIA-3 | navi-misc: 03evan * r7040 10xchat-gnome/plugins/notification/ (Makefile.am notification.c): Ah ha! fixed the compilation error. |
| 06:59.38 | CIA-3 | navi-misc: 03evan * r7041 10xchat-gnome/fe-gnome/navigation_tree.h: Move this back since it wasn't the problem. |
| 07:02.50 | CIA-3 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r7042 10xchat-gnome/fe-gnome/ (irc-network.c irc-network.h): gobject base implementation |
| 07:18.23 | purple_cow | hah, i knew it |
| 07:18.36 | purple_cow | the biologist in this episode was dr. pulaski in TNG |
| 07:19.59 | scanline | "Hey look, the disgusting little men are starting to sing!" |
| 07:24.47 | CIA-3 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r7043 10xchat-gnome/fe-gnome/irc-network.c: copy data on creation |
| 07:27.31 | CIA-3 | navi-misc: 03evan * r7044 10xchat-gnome/plugins/notification/notification.c: Get a reference to the navigation tree. |
| 07:33.35 | scanline | yay, a bavarian creme dog that's also self-microwaving |
| 07:36.53 | scanline | Fool me seven times, shame on you. Fool me eight or more times, shame on me! |
| 07:39.42 | CIA-3 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r7045 10xchat-gnome/fe-gnome/irc-network.c: more data wibbling! |
| 07:39.55 | darth_mall | hmm... data wibbling... |
| 07:39.58 | darth_mall | sounds dirty |
| 07:44.55 | scanline | "And so I returned his artificial heart, and from then on I was known by the name 'Honest Bender'." |
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| 08:01.52 | CIA-3 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r7046 10xchat-gnome/fe-gnome/ (Makefile.am irc-network-editor.c irc-network-editor.h): begin adding a GtkDialog subclass for editing IrcNetworks |
| 08:22.14 | purple_cow | hmm |
| 08:43.36 | scanline | damn I love google maps |
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| 08:51.41 | purple_cow | :) |
| 08:52.47 | purple_cow | hmm...what to watch... |
| 09:30.03 | scanline | blah |
| 09:30.05 | scanline | -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1629405746 Feb 20 02:30 access_log |
| 09:30.06 | scanline | on navi |
| 09:30.18 | scanline | it'd be nice if there was a way to avoid logging stuff like therms and svn commit |
| 09:30.59 | scanline | hm |
| 09:31.13 | scanline | looks like you do indeed have to restart apache to get it to reopen the log file after deleting it |
| 09:31.25 | scanline | oh |
| 09:31.35 | scanline | that's what SIGHUP does |
| 09:31.54 | scanline | supposedly |
| 09:32.23 | scanline | huh |
| 09:49.38 | scanline | and there it is.. a post on the linode forums about a problem with hosts 38 through 44 |
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| 09:51.02 | scanline | "Specks of meat are embedded in the torso!" |
| 09:56.58 | scanline | mythbusters |
| 09:57.51 | purple_cow | err, which episode is that? |
| 09:58.05 | scanline | the one with the ice bullet |
| 09:58.11 | rioter | yeah |
| 09:58.19 | purple_cow | oh, right |
| 09:59.45 | scanline | haven't seen the first couple recently |
| 10:00.08 | purple_cow | oh right, webalizer probably won't work with flapjack down |
| 10:00.12 | purple_cow | oh no! fyre.navi.cx is down! |
| 10:00.17 | scanline | uhhuh |
| 10:01.02 | purple_cow | oh cruel fate, to be thusly boned... |
| 10:01.14 | scanline | caker must have an alarm set to go off or something when a server goes down.. he seems to respond nearly instantly no matter what time of day it is |
| 10:01.38 | purple_cow | any ETA? |
| 10:01.47 | scanline | no. this is all I have: |
| 10:01.49 | scanline | http://www.linode.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1471 |
| 10:04.17 | scanline | haven't seen anything on #linode yet either |
| 10:09.54 | scanline | aha |
| 10:09.55 | scanline | an update |
| 10:10.01 | scanline | "Ok. Looks like we tripped a breaker. I'm bringing the machines back online now." |
| 10:10.18 | scanline | and they're getting another 20A circuit :) |
| 10:13.29 | scanline | still.. this level of support is just amazing compared to PLD, when I could try for weeks and not get a hold of anyone :) |
| 10:14.57 | scanline | looks like 38 is up |
| 10:15.45 | scanline | yay, 39 just came up |
| 10:17.19 | scanline | yay, it's pingable |
| 10:17.57 | scanline | hmm |
| 10:18.08 | scanline | I just got into lish, but then I got a reboot notice |
| 10:23.20 | scanline | web is back up |
| 10:24.53 | purple_cow | hurray |
| 10:25.04 | scanline | and now CIA shoudl be booting... |
| 10:25.26 | scanline | or hmmm |
| 10:25.39 | purple_cow | wowie |
| 10:25.50 | scanline | maybe I booted flapjack too soon |
| 10:25.56 | purple_cow | fyre 1.0.0 came out just a hair over a year after 0.1 |
| 10:25.59 | scanline | it seems to have unbooted |
| 10:30.01 | scanline | oh |
| 10:30.11 | scanline | so apparently there was a restart or something in my node's job queue |
| 10:31.51 | scanline | yay, apache is back |
| 10:33.16 | scanline | huh |
| 10:33.22 | scanline | its ssh host key changed? |
| 10:33.57 | sbahra | Hrm. |
| 10:34.01 | sbahra | fyre 1.0 is out? |
| 10:34.04 | scanline | yes |
| 10:34.09 | sbahra | Ok. |
| 10:41.57 | scanline | erf |
| 10:42.05 | scanline | that should wait until my io tokens refill |
| 10:45.00 | scanline | hah |
| 10:45.03 | scanline | freenode-15083328.96 microseconds |
| 10:45.09 | scanline | on the 'time remaining' to reconnect |
| 10:45.31 | scanline | there goes the army of bots... |
| 10:46.16 | scanline | yow, CIA's getting hit even faster than usual |
| 10:46.25 | scanline | apache's cache probably needs some time to fill |
| 10:46.39 | scanline | this is faster than 1 hit per second |
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| 10:47.26 | scanline | heh.. bunch of malformed e16 commits causing XML parse exceptions |
| 10:51.34 | scanline | ah cool. Since the hosts were down anyway, he upgraded their kernels |
| 10:55.50 | scanline | wow |
| 10:55.58 | scanline | they only get 6 servers to a 20A circuit |
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| 15:15.55 | TD | hiya Sophie_ |
| 15:16.12 | Sophie_ | heya TC |
| 15:16.16 | Sophie_ | TD, even |
| 15:17.05 | Sophie_ | there sure is a lot of shit music out there. |
| 15:17.19 | TD | yes, there is. fortunately i'm not listening to any of it currently |
| 15:17.39 | Sophie_ | well, then |
| 15:17.45 | Sophie_ | that begs the question |
| 15:17.54 | Sophie_ | what ARE you listening to? |
| 15:18.08 | TD | swissgroove.ch, net radio |
| 15:18.16 | TD | more specifically, "Face the waves" by Crustation |
| 15:18.26 | Sophie_ | hm. |
| 15:18.47 | Sophie_ | what genre would you classify that? |
| 15:18.59 | TD | hard to say |
| 15:19.14 | TD | mood music/ambient? except it has lyrics and stuff |
| 15:19.24 | TD | if i had a sample editor that didn't suck i'd put it on navi somewhere |
| 15:19.46 | Sophie_ | s'ok. |
| 15:20.08 | Sophie_ | kindof downtempo, chill? |
| 15:20.21 | TD | yeah |
| 15:22.08 | Sophie_ | jesus, I almost listened to something by limp bizkit |
| 15:23.01 | TD | hehe |
| 15:25.54 | Sophie_ | what kind of crack addict puts damien rice on the same album with limp bizkit? |
| 15:26.38 | Sophie_ | well, I suppose I should go get dressed and stuff |
| 17:29.02 | gonkulator | doh |
| 17:34.26 | CIA-3 | FreeBSD: 03mikeh 07LUKEM * 10src/: |
| 17:39.14 | Samy | lol |
| 17:39.16 | Samy | What's that doing here? :) |
| 17:39.17 | file[laptop] | O.o |
| 17:40.10 | gonkulator | whooopsie |
| 17:40.19 | gonkulator | ok... to write another email or not |
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| 17:42.28 | hardwire | to a girl |
| 17:42.29 | hardwire | don't |
| 17:42.59 | kergoth | hey |
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| 17:45.13 | file[laptop] | kergoth! |
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| 17:50.32 | gonkulator | hardwire: actually... to a priest |
| 17:50.46 | hardwire | don't pester the priest with love notes |
| 17:50.54 | gonkulator | its not a love note |
| 17:52.28 | hardwire | Im just giving you a hard time |
| 17:52.29 | hardwire | heh |
| 17:57.35 | gonkulator | oh, ok |
| 17:58.02 | gonkulator | it got lost yesterday when I went fishing |
| 17:58.07 | hardwire | haha |
| 17:58.11 | hardwire | for how long? |
| 17:58.21 | hardwire | (I wish you knew how many times I have been lost) |
| 17:58.22 | gonkulator | about 13 fish |
| 17:58.28 | hardwire | 13 fish long? |
| 17:58.34 | hardwire | I don't measure time in fish. |
| 17:58.42 | hardwire | however up here I think I might be able to start. |
| 17:59.11 | gonkulator | its a function of fish per square book |
| 18:00.27 | gonkulator | and with that, it is time for me to go eat lunch |
| 18:00.35 | gonkulator | since I am *hungry* |
| 18:00.41 | gonkulator | later hardwire, file[laptop] |
| 18:00.57 | hardwire | breakfast sounds good |
| 18:01.03 | hardwire | file[laptop]: I am ordering a hitachi cable phone |
| 18:01.10 | hardwire | a snom 360 and some IAXy's |
| 18:01.11 | hardwire | heh |
| 18:01.15 | hardwire | and some sipura 3000's |
| 18:01.33 | file[laptop] | sounds great |
| 18:01.36 | file[laptop] | bye bye gonkulator |
| 18:01.44 | hardwire | how do you like the hitachi? |
| 18:02.14 | file[laptop] | but I know someone who does |
| 18:02.23 | hardwire | ar har |
| 18:02.46 | file[laptop] | :) |
| 18:02.48 | hardwire | you would think if you wanted to get in touch with the VFX supervisor of a movie.. you could. |
| 18:02.56 | file[laptop] | yeah |
| 18:03.08 | hardwire | heh |
| 18:03.13 | hardwire | johnwoo@hotmail.com |
| 18:03.17 | hardwire | wouldn't that be nice? |
| 18:03.28 | file[laptop] | hehe |
| 18:05.43 | file[laptop] | anyway, go for voipsupply - they seem to be the cheapest for things |
| 18:06.04 | hardwire | I go through abptech |
| 18:06.14 | hardwire | typically |
| 18:06.20 | hardwire | I get better than published pricing it seems |
| 18:06.39 | file[laptop] | well they get the hitachi for $319.95 (voipsupply) |
| 18:14.37 | hardwire | spiff. |
| 18:14.43 | hardwire | hmm |
| 18:14.44 | hardwire | food |
| 18:14.49 | hardwire | My stomach is about to eat itself |
| 18:14.57 | hardwire | I was battling food poisoning yesterday |
| 18:15.07 | file[laptop] | what poisoned you? |
| 18:15.08 | hardwire | thankfully I didn't have to have my stomache pumped |
| 18:15.15 | hardwire | however the alternative.. was kinda just as worse |
| 18:15.37 | hardwire | this funky fettuchini w/ seafood in it |
| 18:15.48 | file[laptop] | ah ic |
| 18:16.05 | hardwire | I don't think my intestines or my stomach have anything in them ATM. |
| 18:29.10 | KeyserLaptop | empty? |
| 18:33.08 | file[laptop] | knowledge is good |
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| 18:56.08 | file[laptop] | pagefault! |
| 18:56.13 | pagefault_ | hey file |
| 18:56.21 | file[laptop] | what's up? |
| 18:56.30 | pagefault_ | not much, I just got up |
| 18:56.44 | file[laptop] | kergoth: poke |
| 19:05.22 | scanline | whoops |
| 19:05.36 | scanline | forgot to watch the io limiter while i was compiling on flapjack |
| 19:07.33 | pagefault_ | hrm I should try this new QEMU |
| 19:08.46 | file[laptop] | silly pagefault |
| 19:09.03 | pagefault_ | silly file |
| 19:09.08 | pagefault_ | soon we will be eating chicken |
| 19:09.14 | file[laptop] | indeed |
| 19:11.54 | file[laptop] | order! |
| 19:12.08 | pagefault_ | no cashola |
| 19:12.11 | pagefault_ | not until march |
| 19:12.15 | file[laptop] | awww |
| 19:13.24 | scanline | 24.14.6.161 - - [20/Feb/2005:12:02:59 -0700] "GET /albums/fyre/fireball.png HTTP/1.1" 200 486007 "http://www.neopets.com/guilds/guild.phtml?oid=cutie_24_7mk" "Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; SV1)" |
| 19:13.26 | scanline | blech |
| 19:15.59 | purple_cow | you could run a UML *inside* a UML! |
| 19:16.04 | scanline | hehe |
| 19:16.09 | pagefault_ | that sounds crazy |
| 19:16.41 | pagefault_ | ban all IE |
| 19:17.05 | file[laptop] | pagefault_: Global is sticking 'The Outer Limits' on at such weird times |
| 19:17.29 | pagefault_ | file[laptop], are they new ones are repeats? |
| 19:17.34 | file[laptop] | repeats |
| 19:17.43 | file[laptop] | the one where they transplant a body is on right now |
| 19:17.48 | pagefault_ | ah thats probably why then, they need some kind of filler |
| 19:18.15 | file[laptop] | every channel is in filler mode |
| 19:18.36 | pagefault_ | at least it's not overdrawn at the memory bank |
| 19:18.48 | file[laptop] | thank god |
| 19:19.04 | darth_mall | uhoh... purple_cow is up too... |
| 19:19.08 | darth_mall | no good can come of this |
| 19:19.47 | scanline | hmm... |
| 19:19.48 | scanline | CFLAGS="`echo | io-throttle 0.95`" |
| 19:19.50 | scanline | =) |
| 19:19.58 | purple_cow | hahahaha |
| 19:20.04 | purple_cow | that's sick |
| 19:21.47 | scanline | grr |
| 19:22.00 | scanline | I really should have been watching that compile more closely |
| 19:24.24 | scanline | hmm |
| 19:24.36 | scanline | this echo|io-throttle construct is actually fairly useful for delaying things |
| 19:25.01 | scanline | cia@flapjack cia $ echo|io-throttle 0.5; ./restart_now.sh |
| 19:25.28 | darth_mall | ok, I think these use cases are sufficiently finished |
| 19:25.31 | darth_mall | now on to the CRC cards... |
| 19:28.28 | scanline | hmm, actually |
| 19:28.37 | scanline | I wonder if just piping portage's output through an io throttler would work |
| 19:31.37 | darth_mall | purple_cow: mind if I borrow your OOP text book? |
| 19:34.20 | purple_cow | go ahead |
| 19:34.57 | scanline | hehe.. "emerge moo" is debian-compatible |
| 19:42.03 | purple_cow | ooh |
| 19:42.56 | scanline | I've never seen python code with such deep indenting |
| 19:43.23 | scanline | let's see.. 8 levels? |
| 19:43.24 | scanline | with tabs |
| 19:44.25 | pagefault_ | some crazy person put portage in ubuntu |
| 19:45.09 | purple_cow | hmm |
| 19:45.16 | purple_cow | do i grab this torrent of constantine or not? |
| 19:46.26 | purple_cow | ooooh, seven samurai |
| 19:46.30 | pagefault_ | is it some guy with a camera/ |
| 19:47.36 | lurgy | purple_cow: not based on what i've heard about it ;) |
| 19:49.44 | purple_cow | heh |
| 19:50.20 | scanline | configure:2659: i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc `echo | io-throttle 0.95` -DHAVE_ERRNO_AS_DEFINE=1 -DUSE_OLD_FUNCTIONS conftest.c >&5 |
| 19:50.20 | scanline | i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc: `echo: No such file or directory |
| 19:50.21 | scanline | i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc: |: No such file or directory |
| 19:50.21 | scanline | i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc: io-throttle: No such file or directory |
| 19:50.21 | scanline | i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc: 0.95`: No such file or directory |
| 19:50.22 | scanline | bah! |
| 19:50.43 | scanline | guess I might need to stick a shell in there or something |
| 19:50.46 | scanline | but that's something to do later |
| 19:51.23 | pagefault_ | great I can't connect to pagefault |
| 19:51.36 | file[laptop] | are you at a friend's place? hmm? a female friend? |
| 19:51.42 | pagefault_ | maaaaaybe |
| 19:51.58 | file[laptop] | and you wanna VNC home? wow, geek :p |
| 19:52.40 | pagefault_ | i've been here all night so I wanted to see how my fyre render was going :) |
| 19:52.45 | file[laptop] | ah |
| 19:53.08 | pagefault_ | but even ssh isn't listening |
| 19:53.53 | pagefault_ | I think my box locked up |
| 19:53.57 | file[laptop] | :( |
| 19:54.09 | file[laptop] | it missed you |
| 19:55.03 | TD | phew, that's homework done for today methinks |
| 19:55.25 | pagefault_ | well I am heading home soon anyway |
| 19:55.28 | pagefault_ | grr |
| 19:57.42 | darth_mall | http://www.penny-arcade.com/view.php3?date=2005-02-18 |
| 19:58.02 | darth_mall | yay Earl! |
| 20:02.34 | darth_mall | uhoh... sounds like the scanline family! |
| 20:09.59 | darth_mall | me no likey school |
| 20:16.10 | purple_cow | hiya slimspace |
| 20:17.43 | CIA-3 | winehq: 03Mike Hearn <mh@codeweavers.com> * 10/: |
| 20:17.43 | CIA-3 | winehq: [OLE #76] Avoid infinite loop when doing a typelib marshalled |
| 20:17.43 | CIA-3 | winehq: IUnknown::QueryInterface |
| 20:23.28 | purple_cow | blaaaahhhhh |
| 20:23.35 | purple_cow | oop is sucking out my soul |
| 20:24.10 | slimspace | mine too |
| 20:26.03 | purple_cow | we haven't learned anything about patterns yet, have we? |
| 20:26.18 | slimspace | he talked breifly about them in lecture 6 |
| 20:26.25 | slimspace | I'm just wondering what to put on the back of my cards... |
| 20:27.35 | purple_cow | slimspace: purpose and stereotypes? |
| 20:28.43 | slimspace | well, according to his lectures, there's supposed to be a purpose, role stereotypes, and if the object participates in design patterns, what they are |
| 20:29.48 | gonkulator | hi slimspace |
| 20:29.53 | slimspace | hey gonkulator |
| 20:30.04 | gonkulator | and its purple_cow and an exploded file[laptop] |
| 20:30.13 | purple_cow | well, yeah, but he hasn't really told us what any of the patterns are |
| 20:30.25 | slimspace | good point |
| 20:30.52 | slimspace | alright, that simplifies things greatly |
| 20:32.22 | slimspace | if only there were more computers here...then I could have more screens! |
| 20:32.26 | slimspace | mwahahahah! |
| 20:32.33 | purple_cow | heh |
| 20:34.05 | file[laptop] | oh no, slimspace is getting the urge for more screens |
| 20:34.38 | slimspace | I've got the possiblity of setting up to 5 screens at my apartment |
| 20:34.50 | slimspace | 3 screens on my desktop, plus each of two laptops |
| 20:37.05 | gonkulator | slimspace: I have a few ideas for you :) |
| 20:37.17 | slimspace | gonkulator: hmm? |
| 20:37.27 | gonkulator | if you can't get wider, go up! |
| 20:37.39 | slimspace | mmm, yeah. I'd need some shelves though |
| 20:37.50 | gonkulator | yeah |
| 20:38.03 | gonkulator | the metal racks restraunts use are good |
| 20:38.12 | slimspace | though it would be kinda cool to arrange the screens wrap-around, and have a surround-video system |
| 20:38.15 | file[laptop] | gonkulator knows it for a fact |
| 20:39.52 | gonkulator | yeah, the only problem with wrap around is that you can't easily see everything at once |
| 20:40.14 | gonkulator | and with that, I'm off |
| 20:40.16 | gonkulator | later folks |
| 20:40.17 | slimspace | there is that |
| 20:40.22 | slimspace | later gonkulator |
| 20:40.26 | file[laptop] | gonkulator: nooooooooooo okay bye |
| 20:52.34 | darth_mall | jam a bastard in it, you crap! |
| 20:59.32 | slimspace | wow, tomboy makes writing these cards very nice |
| 21:00.34 | purple_cow | slimspace: =D |
| 21:02.01 | darth_mall | heh |
| 21:02.05 | kergoth | re |
| 21:02.10 | purple_cow | there's some good stuff going on with mono |
| 21:02.24 | slimspace | yeah, there is. I'm quite impressed |
| 21:06.34 | darth_mall | blah for school |
| 21:09.08 | purple_cow | stupid commercials |
| 21:11.54 | purple_cow | anyone else having trouble upgrading to the latest gawk? |
| 21:19.51 | lurgy | uh oh, russian sailor's dance |
| 21:19.55 | lurgy | haven't heard this in a while |
| 21:19.58 | lurgy | silly random playlist thing |
| 21:20.43 | purple_cow | heh |
| 21:21.50 | *** topic/#tacobeam by purple_cow -> It's a word they made up to make shampoo sound important! || http://www.brains4zombies.com/ || Love us, for fyre 1.0.0 is here! |
| 21:23.29 | darth_mall | purple_cow: I am |
| 21:23.42 | darth_mall | hi lurgy |
| 21:23.49 | lurgy | morning darth_mall |
| 21:26.51 | lurgy | moornin slimspace |
| 21:30.38 | lurgy | hmm, LCD displays on ebay are starting to get reasonable |
| 21:30.48 | lurgy | http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=41808&item=5167136645&rd=1 |
| 21:31.15 | darth_mall | yay vnc |
| 21:34.34 | lurgy | mmm... 700:1 contrast ratio.. |
| 21:36.20 | purple_cow | slimspace: what lecture were the stereotypes in? |
| 21:36.27 | slimspace | purple_cow: 4 |
| 21:36.51 | slimspace | how many objects are you coming up with? |
| 21:37.17 | darth_mall | wow |
| 21:37.39 | slimspace | I've got 9 so far, maybe 10 or 11 when I'm finished |
| 21:38.19 | slimspace | no less than 11 I'm thinking. Still need to make a reviewer object. |
| 21:38.40 | slimspace | hmm... |
| 21:39.03 | slimspace | I could make a Journal object that holds instances of editors and reviewers...and also the statistics |
| 21:41.05 | lurgy | who doesn't? |
| 21:41.21 | darth_mall | I don't think scanline does |
| 21:42.19 | darth_mall | slimspace: you back in boulder yet? |
| 21:42.31 | Soph_away | darth_mall: You like Mike Mills, yes? |
| 21:42.38 | purple_cow | mmmm talkie walkie |
| 21:43.02 | Soph_away | what else d'joo guys listen to? |
| 21:43.22 | purple_cow | Soph_away: lots of stuff. anything in particular you're looking for? |
| 21:43.49 | Sophie_ | mostly in the downtempo genre. |
| 21:44.23 | darth_mall | Sophie_: I certainly do liiiike Mike Mills |
| 21:44.33 | purple_cow | you might grab nightmares on wax, morcheeba and halou from navi :) |
| 21:44.43 | darth_mall | Sophie_: I also went back and listened to Moon Safarie after we atlked about it last time, like it more than I remembered ^^ |
| 21:45.06 | Sophie_ | oh, I like morcheeba & esthero & some mmassive attack |
| 21:45.14 | darth_mall | mmm... Massive Attack |
| 21:45.14 | purple_cow | Sophie_: air also did the soundtrack to virgin suicides, which is very good :) |
| 21:45.17 | Sophie_ | but I've never heard of halou |
| 21:45.32 | purple_cow | hmm...portishead too |
| 21:45.36 | darth_mall | yup |
| 21:45.37 | darth_mall | them's good |
| 21:45.43 | Sophie_ | where is this navi you speak of? |
| 21:45.51 | darth_mall | downstairs |
| 21:45.53 | purple_cow | *gasp* |
| 21:46.09 | purple_cow | you don't have an account? |
| 21:46.18 | Sophie_ | ftp/ssh/http ? |
| 21:46.23 | purple_cow | ssh |
| 21:46.28 | Sophie_ | not that I know of |
| 21:46.36 | Sophie_ | can I have an account? |
| 21:46.39 | purple_cow | desired username? |
| 21:46.47 | Sophie_ | Sophie |
| 21:47.05 | Sophie_ | mhm |
| 21:47.48 | slimspace | darth_mall: not in boulder yet |
| 21:47.55 | darth_mall | ='( |
| 21:48.16 | ChipX86|Gone | :) |
| 21:48.16 | ChipX86|Gone | :( |
| 21:48.21 | darth_mall | yay ChipX86 |
| 21:48.25 | darth_mall | silly slimspace |
| 21:48.40 | darth_mall | yup |
| 21:48.57 | ChipX86 | that was such a good weekend |
| 21:49.00 | ChipX86 | went by way too fast |
| 21:49.01 | darth_mall | yay! |
| 21:49.31 | ChipX86 | man what a happy weekend |
| 21:49.31 | kergoth | ChipX86: glad to hear it |
| 21:49.41 | ChipX86 | it was so hard for us to say bye |
| 21:49.54 | ChipX86 | on the first day, after dinner, she said, "We're going to have to come back here next time I visit!" |
| 21:50.14 | purple_cow | :) |
| 21:50.20 | purple_cow | time to leave |
| 21:51.17 | slimspace | at least making these cards isn't as bad as coming up with the use cases... |
| 21:51.57 | lurgy | slimspace: all you need to get tess over here more is 3 words: "you! here! now!" |
| 21:52.00 | darth_mall | slimspace: eep |
| 21:52.06 | darth_mall | lurgy: good idear |
| 21:52.07 | slimspace | lurgy: lol |
| 21:52.31 | slimspace | I'm pretty sure she wouldn't respond well to that |
| 21:52.45 | darth_mall | she would if you offered her chocolates |
| 21:52.57 | slimspace | maybe |
| 21:53.12 | lurgy | or.. sprigs of parsley |
| 21:53.18 | lurgy | everybody knows girls like parsley |
| 21:53.29 | slimspace | hehe |
| 21:53.39 | darth_mall | and mice |
| 21:53.51 | lurgy | ideally both |
| 21:59.17 | ChipX86 | I have book shelves! |
| 21:59.19 | ChipX86 | and a wine rack |
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| 22:00.56 | pagefault | wow nice graphical corruption |
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| 22:01.50 | Sophie_ | bookshelves and a wine rack are good |
| 22:02.05 | kergoth | hm, bookshelves, thats a good idea |
| 22:02.06 | Sophie_ | but do you have books and wine to go in them? |
| 22:02.10 | ChipX86 | yep |
| 22:02.21 | ChipX86 | I have boxes full of books in my closets. I can finally put them somewhere |
| 22:02.21 | Sophie_ | do you have candles? |
| 22:02.26 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 22:02.50 | ChipX86 | :) |
| 22:02.58 | ChipX86 | my girlfriend may not like that |
| 22:03.15 | Sophie_ | my husband might not, either |
| 22:03.35 | Samy | ChipX86 has a gf? ;) |
| 22:03.39 | ChipX86 | yep |
| 22:03.44 | Samy | ChipX86: congrats. |
| 22:03.46 | ChipX86 | just spent all weekend with her. It was great |
| 22:04.10 | ChipX86 | took her to a really classy Japanese restaurant |
| 22:04.19 | Sophie_ | doh. |
| 22:04.22 | ChipX86 | then last night, to a really fancy restauarant called The Cheesake Factory |
| 22:04.27 | ChipX86 | it has really good cheesecake |
| 22:04.29 | ChipX86 | she loved both |
| 22:04.45 | ChipX86 | she kicked my ass at Soul Calibur |
| 22:04.53 | Samy | hahaha |
| 22:04.55 | kergoth | ChipX86: cheesecake factory is indeed good. hell of a cheesecake selection |
| 22:05.01 | ChipX86 | kergoth: :) |
| 22:05.05 | Samy | Yes, Cheesecake factory is really popular here. |
| 22:05.06 | kergoth | http://www.eurway.com/item_display.lasso?id=3023&-token.id=13762388&cat=96&s=8 .. nifty, stackable |
| 22:05.19 | ChipX86 | kergoth: oh nice |
| 22:05.25 | Samy | Though, it isn't particularly fancy (I mean, there is much fancier around here, etc...). |
| 22:05.31 | ChipX86 | I went back to the furniture place that I got my bed at |
| 22:05.34 | Samy | but when it comes to cheese cakes, it's as expensive as it comes :) |
| 22:05.46 | ChipX86 | Samy: the building here was really nice looking |
| 22:05.49 | Samy | I usually invite my cousin over for cheesecake, since she can make some really really really good cheesecake. |
| 22:05.53 | Samy | ChipX86: Cool. |
| 22:06.02 | Sophie_ | i thought it could handle ssh |
| 22:06.31 | ChipX86 | anyhow, I went back to this furniture place I bought a bed from about 4 months ago and walked in. One guy greeted me. "You're the one that bought the cherry oak bed set. You just moved from Chico, right?" |
| 22:06.32 | kergoth | purple_cow: eh, what was that band you wanted me to look for on ubernet hte other day |
| 22:06.54 | ChipX86 | I was shocked. And then another guy there recognized me too, and remembered I was from Chico too |
| 22:06.58 | kergoth | ChipX86: heh, nice |
| 22:08.56 | darth_mall | you're all monkeys! |
| 22:09.24 | file[laptop] | am not. |
| 22:09.37 | ChipX86 | geeze, I think I spent $600 this weekend |
| 22:09.47 | kergoth | ChipX86: couldve been worse |
| 22:09.48 | Sophie_ | ha, file most of all |
| 22:09.52 | file[laptop] | darn |
| 22:10.01 | file[laptop] | kergoth: I had an idea for you with your TV idea, but now I forgot |
| 22:10.10 | kergoth | file[laptop]: hehe, i hate that |
| 22:10.14 | file[laptop] | oh |
| 22:10.15 | file[laptop] | kergoth: http://www.videolan.org/vlc/ |
| 22:10.20 | file[laptop] | what about that? |
| 22:10.39 | ChipX86 | my co-worker was one of the original developers of that |
| 22:10.54 | darth_mall | hmm... I think I might be just about ready to do this UML diagram... |
| 22:11.02 | kergoth | i've heard of that. apparently the gpe-vlc works quite well on pdas |
| 22:11.15 | file[laptop] | sorta kinda does what you want ;) |
| 22:11.18 | darth_mall | hehe... I certainly did a good job of filling tomboy up with notes |
| 22:11.35 | darth_mall | it really is good for this kind of design |
| 22:11.41 | pagefault | so like I found out why my system locked up |
| 22:11.47 | pagefault | for some reason /dev/null was missing |
| 22:11.52 | file[laptop] | lol |
| 22:11.53 | pagefault | so I had to reinstall it from a boot disk |
| 22:11.57 | darth_mall | /dev/null is for chumps |
| 22:12.29 | pagefault | darth_mall, apparently the kernel needs it to boot |
| 22:12.41 | kergoth | file[laptop]: ah, it supports some service stuff? cool |
| 22:12.57 | file[laptop] | kergoth: it can act as a quasi-server |
| 22:13.05 | file[laptop] | yo can probably muck with it |
| 22:13.10 | file[laptop] | bring it under your control! |
| 22:13.16 | kergoth | might be a starting point, at any rate |
| 22:14.04 | pagefault | anyway all is good again! |
| 22:14.30 | file[laptop] | good good |
| 22:15.27 | slimspace | whew, think I have my cards |
| 22:15.36 | slimspace | 13 in total |
| 22:16.15 | pagefault | I think my PC just wanted some chicken |
| 22:16.22 | ChipX86 | it usually does |
| 22:16.33 | pagefault | it got jealous |
| 22:16.38 | pagefault | she is the jealous type of computer |
| 22:16.50 | kergoth | hmm, i need to finish a design doc for work |
| 22:16.56 | kergoth | but.. i'd rather play a game instead |
| 22:17.26 | file[laptop] | kergoth: does CosmicPenguin come on on the weekends? |
| 22:17.28 | ChipX86 | I almost bought WoW yesterday |
| 22:17.32 | ChipX86 | Frys was out though, so it saved me |
| 22:17.50 | kergoth | file[laptop]: not very often |
| 22:17.54 | file[laptop] | bah |
| 22:18.13 | file[laptop] | he found 'something' for me... to do some VoIP stuff with |
| 22:18.31 | ChipX86 | oh! Must ask.. do any of you know what those chairs are called where the base is made of a light wood and the whole chair is just kind of this half sphere thing that you sink into? |
| 22:18.41 | kergoth | unionfs 1.0.9 released: |
| 22:18.41 | kergoth | e've just release version 1.0.9, which fixes a bug with hardlinks. |
| 22:18.41 | kergoth | Because of these fixes, we have successfully run apt-get install within |
| 22:18.42 | kergoth | a chrooted Unionfs environment. |
| 22:18.45 | kergoth | nifty |
| 22:19.14 | kergoth | and someone started #unionfs on freenode |
| 22:19.40 | ChipX86 | yay cookie, but I need the name of those chairs :( |
| 22:24.30 | darth_mall | ChipX86: papasan chairs? |
| 22:27.10 | darth_mall | ChipX86: these? ---> http://www.pier1.com/furniture/productdetail.asp?catalog%5Fname=Pier1&strStoreNavDept=&strStoreNavClass=&department_name=FBDEPT+43109+Seating&category_name=FBGROUP+62902+Papasan+Seating&intPageNumber=2&intSetNumber=1 |
| 22:36.05 | CIA-3 | openembedded: 03kergoth 07 * r1.3048.1.2 10openembedded/packages/unionfs/ (3 files in 2 dirs): Add unionfs 1.0.9. |
| 22:36.08 | CIA-3 | openembedded: 03kergoth 07 * r1.3048.1.1 10openembedded/packages/initscripts/initscripts_1.0.bb: Adjust the PACKAGE_ARCH of the initscripts package to be target specific when building for OZ (necessary for multimachine). |
| 22:50.04 | scanline | hmmmbop |
| 22:51.13 | purple_cow | woof |
| 22:51.32 | purple_cow | ChipX86: you should pimp fyre on your blog :) |
| 22:53.57 | ChipX86 | back |
| 22:53.58 | ChipX86 | purple_cow: yep |
| 22:54.07 | ChipX86 | darth_mall: yep!!! |
| 22:55.11 | darth_mall | ChipX86: be careful with those chairs, they break easily |
| 22:55.25 | darth_mall | you can't just flop down into them, they'll snap |
| 22:55.26 | ChipX86 | :( |
| 22:55.29 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 22:55.38 | purple_cow | hmm |
| 22:55.42 | purple_cow | http://www.theopencd.org/index.php?option=com_simpleboard&Itemid=57&func=view&id=18&catid=9 |
| 22:55.42 | darth_mall | scanline's is in bad shape, and mine's not doing too well either |
| 22:56.32 | ChipX86 | http://www.chipx86.com/jamie_photo.jpg |
| 22:57.12 | darth_mall | scanline: =D |
| 22:57.23 | darth_mall | ChipX86: nice picture =D |
| 22:57.30 | scanline | ooh |
| 22:57.31 | scanline | http://www.theopencd.org/index.php?option=com_simpleboard&Itemid=57&func=view&id=18&catid=9 |
| 22:57.35 | scanline | ChipX86: yay, jamie! |
| 22:57.42 | scanline | oh |
| 22:57.45 | scanline | purple_cow beat me to it |
| 22:58.52 | purple_cow | hehe |
| 22:58.54 | TD | ChipX86: pimp autopackage while you're at it |
| 22:58.58 | ChipX86 | ok |
| 22:59.03 | file[laptop] | ChipX86: and asterisk |
| 22:59.04 | scanline | mmm |
| 22:59.37 | scanline | the cheesecake factory has an interesting method of making things completely wrong and yet still tasty |
| 22:59.45 | slimspace | can someone clarify for me exactly what a colaborator is? |
| 22:59.59 | file[laptop] | ooh ooh ooh this cellphone runs Linux and looks cool, gimme gimme gimme |
| 23:00.35 | darth_mall | slimspace: something we don't really need to worry about for this assignment |
| 23:00.37 | darth_mall | ;) |
| 23:00.51 | slimspace | we don't? |
| 23:00.57 | darth_mall | not according to the assignment |
| 23:01.55 | darth_mall | slimspace: We have not yet discussed the creation of object neighborhoods (or collaborations), so you do not have to explain (yet) how your objects work with one another to handle the use cases. |
| 23:02.02 | darth_mall | according to the web page |
| 23:02.10 | slimspace | right...part 3 though talks about collaborations a little. |
| 23:02.45 | scanline | TheOpenCD looks like quite a spiffy project |
| 23:03.13 | darth_mall | slimspace: I think if you just make your UML diagram it will cover it |
| 23:03.17 | purple_cow | hmm |
| 23:03.20 | purple_cow | Подобные приложения очень сложно классифицировать точно и однозначно. Следуя аннотации разработчиков, Fyre - это система рендеринга хаотичных карт c интерактивным модулем GTK+ и возможностью создания изображений с высокой разрешающей способностью и |
| 23:03.20 | purple_cow | з командной строки. Результаты своих экспериментов можно сохранять в файлы изображений формата PNG, анимировать в AVI... Непременно обратите внимание на эту программу - действительно изящно и эффектно. Вес архива всего 238 КБ. |
| 23:03.28 | purple_cow | if only i spoke russian... |
| 23:03.33 | slimspace | hey, that looks like a lot of spam I normally get. |
| 23:03.34 | darth_mall | slimspace: that's what I did |
| 23:03.34 | file[laptop] | uh huh |
| 23:04.40 | slimspace | purple_cow: is there a nice way to print these cards or save them as pdfs from tomboy? |
| 23:04.41 | purple_cow | heh, it's mostly just the first paragraph of the README translated |
| 23:04.56 | purple_cow | slimspace: i'm going to transcribe them into something pretty with inkscape :P |
| 23:05.04 | slimspace | ah, good idea |
| 23:05.11 | scanline | purple_cow: we should post a russian version of fyre and wait for them to translate it into english, then repeat the process |
| 23:05.25 | purple_cow | however, there's a print plugin for 0.3.1 |
| 23:05.51 | slimspace | yeah, I saw that. It only prints one card at a time though. |
| 23:05.51 | purple_cow | looks like it's gnome-print happy, so you can print to pdf |
| 23:05.53 | TD | purple_cow: yeah i think that a lot these days :) |
| 23:07.17 | scanline | purple_cow: back to christy's house.. hopefully the whole senior project group will be there, and we can actually get some work done together |
| 23:17.09 | darth_mall | eep... suddenly I have a lot more objects for this assignment |
| 23:17.17 | purple_cow | heh |
| 23:17.20 | slimspace | darth_mall: how many? |
| 23:17.38 | slimspace | my count is at 14 |
| 23:18.13 | darth_mall | and I'm going to try to stay put there ^^ |
| 23:18.20 | slimspace | hehe |
| 23:18.30 | darth_mall | but I'm pretty sure it'll get the job done |
| 23:18.42 | slimspace | I had to add a couple when I decided to make editors, reviewers, and authors subclasses of Person |
| 23:19.29 | darth_mall | slimspace: that's kind of a good idea... |
| 23:19.44 | slimspace | I've also got subclasses of Editor |
| 23:20.57 | darth_mall | hmm... how do you indicate subclasses on CRC cards? |
| 23:21.03 | slimspace | what are you using for managing editors and editor-in-chief? |
| 23:21.15 | slimspace | I just did "Is a Person" or "Is an Editor" on mine. |
| 23:21.30 | darth_mall | slimspace: I didn't see a reason to give them their own objects |
| 23:21.59 | slimspace | hmm... |
| 23:22.52 | slimspace | mmm, mine are just different enough to warrant separate classes. |
| 23:23.39 | slimspace | though I could probably split some functionality into a CoordinatingEditor class and just build extras on top of that. |
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| 23:30.49 | purple_cow | arrrr |
| 23:31.05 | purple_cow | this homework is making me angry |
| 23:31.13 | TD | HOMEWORK ALWAYS MAKES ME ANGRY |
| 23:32.46 | darth_mall | purple_cow: which? OOP? |
| 23:32.52 | purple_cow | darth_mall: yep |
| 23:32.55 | darth_mall | how come? |
| 23:33.59 | purple_cow | darth_mall: that's part of it |
| 23:34.28 | darth_mall | purple_cow: most people do better that way ^^ |
| 23:34.38 | slimspace | purple_cow: why don't we? How's he going to know we did? |
| 23:34.49 | darth_mall | I imagine that's why the 4 of us often discuss things ^^ |
| 23:35.06 | darth_mall | slimspace: I'm ok with it, we just have to be careful that our solutions don't look too similar ^^ |
| 23:35.21 | slimspace | right |
| 23:35.41 | slimspace | hehe |
| 23:36.12 | darth_mall | heh |
| 23:41.25 | purple_cow | yep, my mind is going... |
| 23:41.32 | ChipX86 | yay! mine too |
| 23:45.02 | slimspace | yay, two cards made pretty in inkscape |
| 23:47.12 | purple_cow | ugh, what a mess |
| 23:50.23 | Sophie_ | do physics? or screw physics? |
| 23:50.27 | TD | i want to try the new gradients stuff |
| 23:51.56 | ChipX86 | uh oh |
| 23:52.04 | ChipX86 | havoc's blog post concerns me |
| 23:52.14 | Sophie_ | heh |
| 23:52.15 | ChipX86 | http://log.ometer.com/2005-02.html#19 |
| 23:52.16 | ChipX86 | the top par |
| 23:52.17 | ChipX86 | t |
| 23:52.33 | TD | lol |
| 23:52.36 | TD | i doubt he is serious |
| 23:52.58 | TD | anyway the rest of his entry is to do with making even more kickass theming engines |
| 23:53.06 | TD | i doubt he'll want to simplify themes out |
| 23:53.49 | ChipX86 | ok |
| 23:53.50 | ChipX86 | good :) |
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| 23:56.06 | file | this Intel Proset latest driver is behaving itself |
| 23:59.11 | darth_mall | ok... no more adding objects |
| 23:59.13 | darth_mall | on to UML |
