| 00:00.16 | kergoth | looks like the cheapest you can find it is for around $300 |
| 00:11.54 | pagefault | argh |
| 00:11.59 | pagefault | how are these sites making popups |
| 00:12.06 | kergoth | very carefully? |
| 00:12.11 | pagefault | I guess so |
| 00:12.15 | pagefault | since firefox doesn't stop them |
| 00:12.27 | kergoth | ah, thats no good |
| 00:15.50 | purple_cow | yay roundabout |
| 00:16.10 | darth_mall | ugh... test soon |
| 00:16.59 | pagefault | Yes |
| 00:21.21 | darth_mall | probly |
| 00:23.02 | darth_mall | man I would love to not have to take a test tonight |
| 00:29.29 | pagefault | night test? that sucks |
| 00:29.41 | purple_cow | ChipX86: you should ask alex why he hasn't adopted jimmac's awesome icons :) |
| 00:35.52 | darth_mall | welp, test time |
| 00:36.02 | purple_cow | have fun |
| 00:41.29 | CIA-3 | OpenGameFramework: 03jeffm2501 * 10OGF/inc/modelManager.h: more non sucky model management |
| 01:08.24 | pagefault | people who encode anime in realvideo are evil |
| 01:08.36 | purple_cow | people who encode anything in realvideo are evil |
| 01:17.20 | ChipX86 | purple_cow: alex is working from home |
| 01:17.29 | ChipX86 | but I think he likes the icon he has |
| 01:17.39 | purple_cow | heh |
| 01:17.42 | ChipX86 | I've seen him debate with people in #gnome-hackers or #mono or some place about it |
| 01:17.52 | ChipX86 | :( there's no love for Ziggy today |
| 01:18.03 | pagefault | what the hell |
| 01:18.08 | pagefault | I put the codecs in the directory |
| 01:18.12 | pagefault | but it still doesn't find the |
| 01:18.13 | pagefault | m |
| 01:30.26 | pagefault | bah I give up |
| 01:30.32 | pagefault | mplayer just crashes |
| 01:30.37 | pagefault | stupid rv |
| 01:30.59 | purple_cow | you could install realplayer |
| 01:31.12 | pagefault | eww |
| 01:31.13 | pagefault | no thakns |
| 01:33.06 | purple_cow | it's only a little really ugly |
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| 01:59.02 | CIA-3 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r6952 10evo/calendar/gui/ (calendar-commands.c e-cal-config.c e-calendar-view.c): update for current cvs |
| 02:05.58 | CIA-3 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r6953 10evo/calendar/gui/ (calendar-commands.c calendar-component.c e-calendar-view.c): more updating |
| 02:10.17 | purple_cow | hmm |
| 02:10.20 | purple_cow | this movie is weirdly cool |
| 02:11.25 | pagefault | wow |
| 02:11.31 | pagefault | these nvidia nforce sound drivers are very impressive |
| 02:11.45 | pagefault | I think it sounds better in linux than in windows |
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| 02:27.38 | *** topic/#tacobeam is Fly the white flag of war! |
| 02:39.15 | CIA-3 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r6954 10evo/calendar/gui/dialogs/ (6 files): probably completely updated now |
| 03:06.09 | ChipX86 | yay home |
| 03:09.45 | pagefault | welcome home |
| 03:09.45 | purple_cow | time to cook dinner |
| 03:09.58 | ChipX86 | uh oh, dinner |
| 03:10.18 | ChipX86 | what to eat.. |
| 03:11.28 | ChipX86 | yay, someone I don't know favorited Ziggy |
| 03:19.58 | ChipX86 | this is NOT acceptable |
| 03:20.01 | ChipX86 | http://www.denverpost.com/Stories/0,1413,36~78~2714803,00.html |
| 03:22.24 | ChipX86 | hope it turns out better than it sounds |
| 03:34.49 | purple_cow | ugh |
| 03:35.28 | purple_cow | maybe there'd be more of a market if we were showing kids the original good stuff rather than "bart simpson and spongebob squarepants" |
| 03:35.41 | ChipX86 | yep |
| 03:35.49 | ChipX86 | kids haven't changed that much |
| 03:36.06 | ChipX86 | it's the men in suits who are making the decisions for what kids should and shouldn't like |
| 03:37.12 | purple_cow | wow |
| 03:37.18 | purple_cow | my attept at huevos came out *perfect* |
| 03:37.35 | ChipX86 | yay! |
| 03:37.38 | pagefault | the HGTTG trailer looks cool |
| 03:37.47 | ChipX86 | yep |
| 03:39.02 | ChipX86 | oohh |
| 03:39.04 | ChipX86 | where? |
| 03:39.23 | purple_cow | here in my living room |
| 03:39.30 | ChipX86 | on navi or on tv? |
| 03:39.33 | purple_cow | on navi |
| 03:39.34 | ChipX86 | awww |
| 03:40.09 | ChipX86 | I should write an applet that switches my network devices, proxy, and gaim config files |
| 03:40.36 | ChipX86 | or a script. |
| 03:41.02 | purple_cow | hmm, huevos and coffee |
| 03:41.12 | ChipX86 | maybe you are |
| 03:41.22 | purple_cow | it's certainly possible |
| 03:42.27 | purple_cow | mmm, what a great movie |
| 04:03.43 | pagefault | ok this summer |
| 04:03.47 | pagefault | I can work at IBM again |
| 04:03.51 | pagefault | or I can get a job in the film industry |
| 04:03.55 | pagefault | I am not sure which to do |
| 04:04.18 | pagefault | my uncle said he can hook me up with a job |
| 04:06.32 | purple_cow | yay, and there's milla jovovich |
| 04:08.32 | ChipX86 | pagefault: what kind of job? |
| 04:09.54 | purple_cow | wow |
| 04:09.59 | purple_cow | the audio on this rip is fantastic |
| 04:10.09 | purple_cow | especially for something i downloaded 4 years ago |
| 04:14.08 | pagefault | ChipX86, well I think I would be setting computer crap up on the set for the office people |
| 04:14.16 | pagefault | but it pays well |
| 04:14.24 | pagefault | they give you $50 a day for spending money |
| 04:14.27 | pagefault | plus wages |
| 04:16.04 | ChipX86 | http://www.compuplus.com/i/AUDIO/MP3-Players/RIO-DNNA-Digital-Networks-Rio-Karma-USB-20-20GB-Hard-Drive-Black-on-light-gray-MP3-Player-90260461-1001537.html?sid=lz2c02lsroi3926 |
| 04:16.15 | purple_cow | hmm, i'd forgotten that captain hollister was a cop in this movie |
| 04:16.16 | ChipX86 | if it had ogg, I'd buy it |
| 04:17.02 | pagefault | iriver players have it |
| 04:17.15 | ChipX86 | yeah, that's just a nice price for a small 20GB player |
| 04:17.28 | pagefault | oh it does play ogg |
| 04:17.31 | pagefault | look at the specs |
| 04:18.03 | ChipX86 | oh wow |
| 04:18.05 | ChipX86 | look at that |
| 04:18.15 | ChipX86 | that's a really nice price |
| 04:18.18 | pagefault | only 128kbps though |
| 04:18.23 | ChipX86 | hrm |
| 04:18.36 | pagefault | my cd player can handle up to like 250kbps or smth |
| 04:18.42 | pagefault | I think it's a cpu limitation |
| 04:18.45 | ChipX86 | ethernet port |
| 04:19.19 | ChipX86 | cross-fader |
| 04:19.20 | pagefault | probably firmware upgradable though |
| 04:19.24 | pagefault | so those specs could be outdated |
| 04:20.55 | ChipX86 | 2.8/5 |
| 04:21.52 | pagefault | the firmware update on rio's site makes it play FLAC |
| 04:21.54 | pagefault | cool |
| 04:22.10 | pagefault | would be nice to play FLAC |
| 04:25.54 | ChipX86 | http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B0000AQIFZ/104-6936674-8939108?v=glance |
| 04:26.55 | purple_cow | hey look, it plays WMA |
| 04:26.57 | purple_cow | best feature ever |
| 04:29.30 | pagefault | yep |
| 04:29.51 | pagefault | on some of iriver's older players they give you the choice of wma+mp3 firmware or ogg+mp3 firmware |
| 04:29.54 | pagefault | not a hard choice |
| 04:32.43 | ChipX86 | well, a lot of people like it, but the negative reviews are scary |
| 04:32.48 | ChipX86 | sounds like the HD isn't protected well at all |
| 04:32.59 | ChipX86 | though most seem to be good reviews |
| 04:33.22 | pagefault | ah well |
| 04:33.26 | pagefault | everything has horror stories |
| 04:33.30 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 04:33.32 | ChipX86 | hmmm |
| 04:33.33 | ChipX86 | tempted.. |
| 04:33.34 | pagefault | I know someone with one |
| 04:33.35 | pagefault | he likes it |
| 04:33.37 | ChipX86 | cool |
| 04:33.46 | ChipX86 | I don't see myself running with it or anything. It'll mostly be an at-work thing |
| 04:33.49 | pagefault | better than an evil ipod |
| 04:34.00 | ChipX86 | I'd buy an ipod if it had ogg support |
| 04:34.09 | pagefault | that will never happen |
| 04:34.14 | ChipX86 | I know :/ |
| 04:35.42 | ChipX86 | I'm really not sure about this |
| 04:36.13 | pagefault | well worst comes to worst you send it back |
| 04:36.18 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 04:36.19 | pagefault | if they have a good refund policy |
| 04:36.22 | pagefault | I would look at that first |
| 04:36.41 | ChipX86 | I was going to get an iAudio, but jimmac's review scared me. Or was it tigert's? |
| 04:37.49 | ChipX86 | woah, the new iRivers are beautiful |
| 04:40.13 | ChipX86 | http://www.iriveramerica.com/prod/hd/h320.aspx |
| 04:41.20 | purple_cow | cute |
| 04:44.29 | ChipX86 | of course, there's the whole "I don't want to spend $300 for a music player" issue |
| 04:48.41 | purple_cow | she knows it's a multipass! |
| 04:49.38 | purple_cow | what an awesomely terrible movie :) |
| 04:51.42 | purple_cow | hehe, hurray chris rock |
| 04:53.27 | ChipX86 | "My strategy is so simple, an idiot could have devised it." |
| 04:56.19 | pagefault | yeah |
| 04:56.26 | pagefault | I love my iriver player |
| 04:56.29 | pagefault | it's a cd player though |
| 04:56.36 | ChipX86 | oh? |
| 05:02.37 | pagefault | this is a very annoying bug in gaim |
| 05:02.41 | pagefault | well maybe not a bug |
| 05:02.44 | pagefault | but when someone has a very long MSN name |
| 05:02.47 | pagefault | it makes the tab ultra huge |
| 05:02.54 | pagefault | so to switch between tabs I need to make the window ultra huge |
| 05:03.01 | pagefault | just more of an annoyance than anything |
| 05:03.35 | scanline | blarr |
| 05:03.40 | scanline | that power nap had far too much power |
| 05:03.59 | pagefault | anyway you probably don't want to hear about gaim :) |
| 05:04.53 | purple_cow | mornin' scanline |
| 05:05.02 | pagefault | morning? |
| 05:05.06 | pagefault | silly people |
| 05:05.36 | pagefault | oh that sucks |
| 05:05.57 | pagefault | I hate waking up in the middle of the night |
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| 05:09.55 | purple_cow | time for milla to kick some alien tail! |
| 05:10.22 | pagefault | leelo |
| 05:10.35 | purple_cow | :) |
| 05:11.06 | lurgy | laaaaaaaalala.. |
| 05:11.13 | purple_cow | hiya lurgy |
| 05:18.05 | ChipX86 | wtf |
| 05:18.26 | ChipX86 | the local news just said that with the increase in identity theft, shredders and spyware are no longer enough to protect your identity |
| 05:19.01 | purple_cow | well, they're not |
| 05:19.10 | ChipX86 | well yeah, but.. spyware?! |
| 05:19.21 | nullpuppy | its tastey |
| 05:20.36 | pagefault | spyware protecting your identity! |
| 05:20.40 | pagefault | I need more of it! |
| 05:22.48 | scanline | see, you use spyware to steal extra identities in case yours gets stolen |
| 05:22.58 | ChipX86 | :) |
| 05:31.22 | scanline | it's a good thing computers in the future are so efficient |
| 05:31.28 | purple_cow | yep |
| 05:42.24 | purple_cow | mmm |
| 05:42.27 | purple_cow | that movie tickles me |
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| 05:54.42 | pagefault | stupid ATI |
| 05:54.45 | pagefault | disabling video overlay |
| 05:55.43 | pagefault | what the hell |
| 05:57.03 | purple_cow | there's a reason why i buy nvidia ;) |
| 05:57.25 | nullpuppy | hehe |
| 06:00.09 | pagefault | (**) fglrx(0): Option "OpenGLOverlay" "off" |
| 06:00.09 | pagefault | (**) fglrx(0): Option "VideoOverlay" "on" |
| 06:00.09 | pagefault | (**) fglrx(0): Overlay disabled |
| 06:00.11 | pagefault | ...right |
| 06:02.19 | pagefault | oh figures |
| 06:02.22 | pagefault | I am using dual head mode |
| 06:02.28 | pagefault | so xvideo support is a no-no |
| 06:02.57 | pagefault | apparently the drivers released today fix that |
| 06:02.59 | pagefault | but they aren't in apt |
| 06:03.00 | pagefault | blah |
| 06:08.39 | CIA-3 | navi-misc: 03micah 07fyre-1.0 * r6955 10/ (TODO src/remote-client.c src/remote-client.h): Add retries such that as long as a cluster node is enabled, we keep trying to connect to it. Currently it retries every minute. |
| 06:09.55 | pagefault | ok |
| 06:10.02 | pagefault | blah |
| 06:10.03 | pagefault | I fixed it |
| 06:11.54 | pagefault | wow |
| 06:11.56 | pagefault | ATI has a bugzilla |
| 06:12.36 | ChipX86 | where? |
| 06:13.28 | pagefault | http://ati.cchtml.com/ |
| 06:13.31 | pagefault | it's not official |
| 06:13.39 | pagefault | but apparently ATI people frequent it |
| 06:14.03 | nullpuppy | so they are unofficially finally listening to the community? |
| 06:14.04 | nullpuppy | wow |
| 06:14.44 | pagefault | at least they are pumping out releases frequently now |
| 06:15.27 | pagefault | I wish they wouldn't spend energy maintaining the old xfree versions though |
| 06:17.40 | scanline | good god |
| 06:18.04 | nullpuppy | yeah |
| 06:18.08 | scanline | I wouldn't want to stand anywhere near one of these magnetrons on mythbusters |
| 06:18.26 | ChipX86 | when does Shaun of the Dead start becoming funny? |
| 06:19.59 | lurgy | ChipX86: it's a dry sort of comedy more than a laugh-out-loud sort of comedy for the most part |
| 06:20.08 | ChipX86 | wonderful |
| 06:20.33 | ChipX86 | perhaps that was a bad choice for tonight |
| 06:20.47 | lurgy | nah |
| 06:32.30 | lurgy | Shaun of the Dead is always a good choice |
| 06:33.30 | scanline | yep |
| 06:33.44 | lurgy | for all occasions |
| 06:33.47 | lurgy | but especially christmas |
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| 06:38.02 | *** topic/#tacobeam is Fly the white flag of war! |
| 06:41.53 | darth_mall | I generally laugh pretty loudly during that one |
| 06:42.05 | purple_cow | hurray for 2-for-1 on the 'spensive ice cream |
| 06:43.43 | ChipX86 | this has definitely improved |
| 06:43.52 | ChipX86 | the first few minutes weren't great |
| 06:45.34 | scanline | purple_cow: methinks I'm happy with the fyre cluster-fu for 1.0 |
| 06:47.16 | purple_cow | hmm! |
| 06:53.29 | scanline | hmm |
| 06:53.48 | scanline | it'd be nice to have a thingydoo on the status bar showing you the time since the render started |
| 06:53.54 | scanline | fyre already keeps track of that internally |
| 07:00.45 | pagefault | wow |
| 07:00.55 | pagefault | I made SDL crash |
| 07:00.56 | pagefault | how fun |
| 07:02.40 | lurgy | yay |
| 07:08.32 | pagefault | well bed time |
| 07:08.32 | pagefault | night |
| 07:09.39 | CIA-3 | navi-misc: 03micah 07fyre-1.0 * r6956 10/src/main.c: We might as well use g_strcasecmp() for portability, even though strcasecmp() works on mingw32 and linux |
| 07:13.52 | ChipX86 | I'm beginning to see the rockage of this movie |
| 07:14.17 | purple_cow | :) |
| 07:14.21 | scanline | yay |
| 07:16.44 | scanline | yay, elevator of death |
| 07:23.06 | ChipX86 | a dart in the head would hurt |
| 07:23.23 | darth_mall | yup |
| 07:23.24 | *** part/#tacobeam JeffM2501 (~jeffm@Patlabor221.active.supporter.pdpc) |
| 07:24.10 | scanline | yay, it's like junkyard wars, but with a high-tech junkyard and machines that actually work |
| 07:43.08 | ChipX86 | weird ending |
| 07:43.17 | darth_mall | hehe |
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| 07:56.22 | kergoth | re |
| 07:56.43 | CIA-3 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r6957 10evo/publish-calendar/publish-calendar.glade: redesign |
| 07:57.00 | CIA-3 | navi-misc: 03micah 07fyre-1.0 * r6958 10/ChangeLog: Add the cluster retries |
| 07:57.33 | scanline | hmm |
| 07:57.42 | scanline | maybe these don't work as well as in junkyard wars after all |
| 07:58.32 | purple_cow | they didn't know how to design a hovercraft skirt |
| 08:00.00 | purple_cow | scanline: we still need to build ourselves a hovercraft |
| 08:00.13 | scanline | yep |
| 08:00.13 | scanline | hmm |
| 08:00.16 | scanline | ah... |
| 08:00.28 | scanline | fyre doesn't actually keep track of total rendering time, just over a single calculation interval |
| 08:00.42 | scanline | easy to change though |
| 08:01.06 | darth_mall | scanline, purple_cow: do me a favor and turn it down just a bit? I'm gonna crash |
| 08:01.07 | ChipX86 | no it's not :( |
| 08:01.13 | ChipX86 | keeping track of time is the one thing computers can't do well |
| 08:01.54 | scanline | oh |
| 08:01.56 | scanline | what am I thinking |
| 08:02.06 | scanline | histogram_imager_get_elapsed_time() :P |
| 08:02.38 | purple_cow | hehe |
| 08:03.18 | scanline | it'd be nice to have a non-sucky way to put all these multiple status-thingies into the status bar |
| 08:03.25 | scanline | right now it's a disgusting mess of spaces and tabs |
| 08:05.30 | CIA-3 | navi-misc: 03jupiter 07fyre-1.0 * r6959 10/ChangeLog: ws |
| 08:07.33 | CIA-3 | navi-misc: 03jupiter 07fyre-1.0 * r6960 10/autopackage/: quiet! |
| 08:17.25 | CIA-3 | navi-misc: 03micah 07fyre-1.0 * r6961 10/ (ChangeLog src/explorer.c): |
| 08:17.26 | CIA-3 | navi-misc: Add elapsed time to the status bar. Currently this is only as accurate as |
| 08:17.26 | CIA-3 | navi-misc: histogram_imager_get_elapsed_time(), so it's actually the wallclock time since |
| 08:17.26 | CIA-3 | navi-misc: the last histogram reset rather than the actual amount of rendering time. |
| 08:27.49 | ChipX86 | doom! |
| 08:28.55 | purple_cow | welp |
| 08:29.04 | purple_cow | how about i shower, then we watch another episode while cutting a release? =D |
| 08:29.12 | scanline | :) |
| 08:29.22 | ChipX86 | you guys release a lot |
| 08:29.28 | ChipX86 | I should start doing that kind of thing |
| 08:31.10 | purple_cow | ChipX86: only sometimes |
| 08:35.44 | scanline | ChipX86: 0.9 was kind of a compromise we ended up with... fyre's been close to 1.0 for a while now |
| 08:35.59 | scanline | well, 1.0.0. |
| 08:38.30 | scanline | huh |
| 08:38.55 | scanline | its acting badly when fgcolor==bgcolor but they have different alpha |
| 08:41.35 | ChipX86 | oohh |
| 08:41.42 | ChipX86 | TYPE_INVALID == TYPE_NIL |
| 08:45.17 | ChipX86 | the suckage of this is extreme |
| 08:58.06 | CIA-3 | navi-misc: 03micah 07fyre-1.0 * r6962 10/src/histogram-imager.c: |
| 08:58.07 | CIA-3 | navi-misc: Fix a subtle unsigned integer related mishap in |
| 08:58.07 | CIA-3 | navi-misc: histogram_imager_get_max_usable_density() while calculating max_luma_a. This had |
| 08:58.07 | CIA-3 | navi-misc: the effect of building an unusably small color table for certain combinations of |
| 08:58.07 | CIA-3 | navi-misc: foreground and background colors with alpha. In particular, a transparent black |
| 08:58.07 | CIA-3 | navi-misc: foreground on an opaque black background would render an entirely opaque image. |
| 08:59.04 | ChipX86 | bah, unless someone wants to give me a patch, I'm not adding D-BUS 0.30 support until 0.30 is released |
| 09:03.41 | purple_cow | whee |
| 09:03.57 | purple_cow | these ssh nautilus mounts work so well now that i'm acutually managing files with it |
| 09:04.23 | purple_cow | http://navi.cx/~jupiter/swirly-doodad.png |
| 09:04.56 | ChipX86 | neat |
| 09:05.05 | ChipX86 | wow, osiris is slow |
| 09:08.03 | ChipX86 | wtf is with osiris |
| 09:08.13 | ChipX86 | it doesn't appear to be any processes or memory issues |
| 09:09.24 | purple_cow | could be other nodes are using up resources |
| 09:09.41 | ChipX86 | hrm |
| 09:09.53 | ChipX86 | it's amazingly slow. |
| 09:11.27 | scanline | IO tokens? |
| 09:11.31 | ChipX86 | nope, full |
| 09:18.30 | purple_cow | bleh clip shows =P |
| 09:20.48 | ChipX86 | yep |
| 09:25.50 | scanline | hmm |
| 09:25.53 | ChipX86 | now it's all fast |
| 09:26.54 | purple_cow | they blur out a lot of things that i wouldn't expect |
| 09:27.05 | ChipX86 | which show? |
| 09:27.14 | scanline | mythbusters |
| 09:27.18 | ChipX86 | oh |
| 09:28.36 | purple_cow | http://navi.cx/~jupiter/hurray.png |
| 09:29.09 | ChipX86 | purple_cow: neat |
| 09:29.28 | ChipX86 | you know what would be fun? a libaa renderer |
| 09:30.14 | purple_cow | libcaca would be cooler |
| 09:30.19 | ChipX86 | ooh yes |
| 09:30.26 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 09:30.29 | ChipX86 | that'd be fun :) |
| 09:30.34 | scanline | =) |
| 09:31.24 | ChipX86 | notice how I'm trying to avoid sleep |
| 09:31.45 | CIA-3 | navi-misc: 03jupiter 07fyre-1.0 * r6963 10/src/explorer.c: make the status bar a little less fugly |
| 09:31.54 | ChipX86 | scanline: nah |
| 09:32.31 | ChipX86 | they don't look as sexy in caca :( |
| 09:32.38 | CIA-3 | navi-misc: 03jupiter 07fyre-1.0 * r6964 10/ (ChangeLog configure.ac): bump version |
| 09:32.46 | ChipX86 | well actually, some do, but the spirals tend not to |
| 09:34.18 | scanline | kerbump! |
| 09:34.22 | purple_cow | :) |
| 09:34.34 | scanline | so does this also get to be a fyre-1.0.0 tag soon? :) |
| 09:35.14 | ChipX86 | cacaview is fun |
| 09:35.44 | purple_cow | http://flapjack.navi.cx/releases/fyre/testing/ |
| 09:36.39 | scanline | oh no, testing! |
| 09:36.40 | scanline | can't have testing |
| 09:37.14 | purple_cow | hmm |
| 09:39.16 | ChipX86 | http://www.chipx86.com/ziggy-caca.png |
| 09:39.36 | scanline | hehe |
| 09:39.39 | purple_cow | heh |
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| 09:41.20 | ChipX86 | g'night |
| 09:41.26 | purple_cow | 'night |
| 09:42.17 | ChipX86|Sleep | oh, and before I sleep, I leave you all with this shocker: |
| 09:42.20 | ChipX86|Sleep | "Terrorists will inevitably attempt to strike the United States using germ warfare, poison gas or nuclear weapons, America's new spy chief warned yesterday." |
| 09:43.48 | scanline | purple_cow: are we going to wait for updated ebuilds, autopackages, and such before announcing? |
| 09:43.53 | purple_cow | scanline: nope |
| 09:44.01 | scanline | k |
| 09:44.05 | scanline | yeah |
| 09:44.23 | scanline | ok, I have a completely untested windows build up in the same directory |
| 09:47.57 | CIA-3 | navi-misc: 03micah 07fyre-1.0.0 * r6965 10/: Tag our current fyre 1.0.0 release candidate |
| 09:48.45 | scanline | checking whether build environment is sane... configure: error: newly created file is older than distributed files! |
| 09:48.46 | scanline | Check your system clock |
| 09:48.46 | scanline | m |
| 09:48.47 | scanline | noo |
| 09:48.53 | scanline | autoconf found the secret of my laptop's clock |
| 09:55.07 | purple_cow | ooh, cool |
| 09:55.21 | purple_cow | digitaldistractions has torrents for the prisoner |
| 09:59.09 | *** topic/#tacobeam by scanline -> Fly the white flag of war! || http://flapjack.navi.cx/releases/fyre/testing/ |
| 10:16.34 | purple_cow | ooh, neat |
| 10:16.41 | purple_cow | the theora stream of the gstreamer summit works |
| 10:23.55 | purple_cow | hehehe |
| 10:23.56 | purple_cow | http://www.antimagnet.com/ |
| 16:14.05 | lurgy | lalala.. |
| 16:45.20 | slimspace | hi lurgy |
| 16:56.36 | scanline | aww, I did it again |
| 16:56.57 | scanline | spent time reading email and p.g.o rather than showering right away.. so darth_mall is going to get it first |
| 17:04.57 | *** join/#tacobeam JeffM2501 (~JeffM@Patlabor221.active.supporter.pdpc) |
| 17:29.47 | scanline | grarr |
| 17:41.02 | *** join/#tacobeam samyb (~samy@212.76.79.243) |
| 17:53.27 | kergoth | hey ChipX86 |
| 17:53.30 | ChipX86 | hey |
| 17:54.01 | ChipX86 | moving gaea back to windows for now :/ |
| 17:54.13 | ChipX86 | I want to show it off to Jamie, and I just don't have it working in Linux yet |
| 17:54.13 | nullpuppy | :( |
| 17:55.53 | hardwire | the phone company up here is just |
| 17:55.54 | hardwire | stupid |
| 17:57.09 | hardwire | I called them yesterday morning to try to get them to set up a 1-800 conference call for me |
| 17:57.17 | hardwire | nobody responded until after work hours |
| 17:57.32 | hardwire | when they did respond.. the person had no idea what I was talking about and passed it off to her lead |
| 17:57.42 | hardwire | ho then told me they will have info for me tomorrow morning |
| 17:57.52 | hardwire | not bothering to mentino it was 50 cents a minute |
| 17:58.06 | hardwire | I found a free place to host a conference call last night. |
| 17:58.15 | hardwire | hosted a 24 hours 10 person conference from that point |
| 17:58.22 | hardwire | and now people just pay for LD. |
| 17:58.27 | hardwire | and connect to it |
| 17:58.38 | hardwire | I connect to it for $0.00/min via IAX |
| 17:58.46 | hardwire | why can't the phone company get their shit together? |
| 17:59.01 | hardwire | they wanted me to install a centrex line into my building before they could get a conference system working |
| 17:59.02 | hardwire | just amazing |
| 17:59.10 | hardwire | </spew> |
| 17:59.20 | hardwire | just wanted to tarrif me up the ass |
| 17:59.24 | hardwire | they must get gov't incentives |
| 18:06.26 | darth_mall | huh... I didn't even notice that scanline was up |
| 18:06.45 | darth_mall | ^^ |
| 18:06.48 | slimspace | silly scanline |
| 18:06.55 | darth_mall | if I'd realized I would have made more coffee sans cinnamon |
| 18:07.43 | hardwire | file[laptop]: hello |
| 18:07.46 | hardwire | this is bullshit |
| 18:10.30 | darth_mall | hardwire: what's bs? the fone company again? |
| 18:10.50 | darth_mall | ChipX86: ^^ |
| 18:11.03 | hardwire | darth_mall: no |
| 18:11.14 | hardwire | that I want to use a VoIP provider that I can't contact via phone. |
| 18:11.34 | ChipX86 | now htat's cool |
| 18:11.42 | ChipX86 | my graphics card is only outputting B&W now to my TV |
| 18:11.45 | ChipX86 | damnit |
| 18:11.50 | darth_mall | ChipX86: heh |
| 18:12.19 | ChipX86 | oh, Red was unplugged |
| 18:12.24 | ChipX86 | that'd do it |
| 18:12.33 | ChipX86 | and yay, no spending another $150 |
| 18:12.34 | darth_mall | hehe |
| 18:13.03 | ChipX86 | this computer is eating my money like a sheep on fast food |
| 18:16.26 | ChipX86 | possibly |
| 18:16.38 | ChipX86 | how much have you spent on wasabi? |
| 18:16.45 | scanline | not much |
| 18:16.57 | ChipX86 | I didn't realize until part-way through this that I was buying a HTPC box |
| 18:17.00 | scanline | it was pretty much all just spare parts |
| 18:17.04 | ChipX86 | and at first it was all geared toward Windows |
| 18:17.07 | ChipX86 | so it got expensive |
| 18:17.13 | ChipX86 | yeah, I have no spare parts :P |
| 18:17.17 | darth_mall | heh |
| 18:20.32 | ChipX86 | ahh, even though it's windows, it's nice to have gaea working again |
| 18:20.49 | ChipX86 | and now, to the work mobile! (aka bus) |
| 18:20.57 | scanline | to the flying machine! |
| 18:21.12 | darth_mall | to the bee mobile! |
| 18:21.16 | darth_mall | you mean your chevy? |
| 18:21.18 | darth_mall | yes |
| 18:21.28 | ChipX86 | huh, you know, I have to do laundry and stuff today. Perhaps I should work from home |
| 18:21.35 | ChipX86 | yeah. |
| 18:21.37 | darth_mall | me too |
| 18:21.48 | darth_mall | unfortunately, it's more different to attend class from home |
| 18:21.51 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 18:22.03 | darth_mall | guh... there goes rsync again, timing out... |
| 18:23.02 | ChipX86 | oops, didn't realize I was listening to two songs at once |
| 18:23.12 | scanline | gruggh |
| 18:23.13 | ChipX86 | and humming to both |
| 18:23.17 | scanline | now it goes all no-io-tokeny again |
| 18:23.17 | kergoth | hehe |
| 18:23.20 | darth_mall | I really hate when Han talks about p()'ing on the semaphore... |
| 18:23.23 | ChipX86 | scanline: :((( |
| 18:23.27 | darth_mall | it sounds like he's saying, "peeing on the semaphore" |
| 18:23.37 | kergoth | hehe |
| 18:24.35 | ChipX86 | hopefully the mail server works today |
| 18:24.45 | darth_mall | what did I open Firefox for... |
| 18:24.53 | ChipX86 | the web? |
| 18:24.59 | darth_mall | yeah, but where was I gonna go? |
| 18:25.11 | ChipX86 | I should go to work |
| 18:28.26 | darth_mall | moooo |
| 18:32.45 | CIA-3 | *purr* |
| 18:32.57 | scanline | ah, the joys of having that in a separate daemon... |
| 18:34.16 | darth_mall | oooh... brunch |
| 18:39.11 | darth_mall | hmm... once again x-g has distracted me from class |
| 18:40.40 | CIA-3 | navi-misc: 03micah * r6966 10cia/LibCIA/Web/Stats/Catalog.py: |
| 18:40.40 | CIA-3 | navi-misc: Temporarily disable catalog listings for the paths 'author' and 'project', since |
| 18:40.40 | CIA-3 | navi-misc: those generate huge amounts of disk I/O. They will be re-enabled once CIA lets |
| 18:40.40 | CIA-3 | navi-misc: you page through them rather than displaying them all at once. |
| 18:43.21 | darth_mall | I think the CPU scaling is actually saving me a bit of battery power ^^ |
| 18:45.00 | darth_mall | hrm... 'nother half hour in here |
| 18:45.16 | CIA-3 | openembedded: 03kergoth 07 * r1.2993.1.2 10openembedded/packages/linux/linux-colinux_2.6.10.bb: Set the kernel version string correctly in the colinux kernel build. |
| 18:45.19 | CIA-3 | openembedded: 03kergoth 07 * r1.2993.1.1 10openembedded/ (37 files in 10 dirs): Add hotplug-ng, rename hotplug to linux-hotplug, and move the decision about which /sbin/hotplug binary you use into the hands of the distributions. |
| 18:45.35 | slimspace | weird |
| 18:46.03 | scanline | well, it takes a lot of CPU to charge a battery... |
| 18:46.13 | slimspace | hehe, yeah, obviously |
| 18:47.25 | scanline | several mirrored mysql servers, a few web boxes, a load balancer... |
| 18:48.32 | darth_mall | slimspace: did you have any luck with your kernel yesterday? |
| 18:48.59 | scanline | slimspace: your therm has been on our coffee table for quite a while now.. want me to bring it with me to work today? |
| 18:49.08 | slimspace | yeah, actually. Fans are happy again (after I found out that they always stay on while the battery is charged), and I've got USB working after hibernate now |
| 18:49.17 | slimspace | scanline: that'd be great, thanks |
| 18:49.21 | scanline | ok |
| 18:49.40 | scanline | glad to help, Mr. I'm-too-good-for-your-living-room ;) |
| 18:49.56 | slimspace | scanline: :) |
| 18:50.08 | slimspace | scanline: I'd come over more, but Tess likes to monopolize my time in the evening. |
| 18:50.39 | scanline | wow.. CIA seems to have only one unfulfilled IRC request |
| 18:50.44 | scanline | usually it has more like 6 or so |
| 18:51.52 | scanline | w00t |
| 18:51.54 | scanline | http://flapjack.navi.cx/monitor/diskio/io_status-hour.gif |
| 18:52.40 | scanline | that's the combination of three fixes: caker increased the limit from 200k to 400k, I disabled the really I/O hungry author and project pages, and I killed the server for a few minutes so it wouldn't sit at zero thrashing |
| 18:53.08 | scanline | now hopefully with the 75k token HTTP throttle in place and those giant pages disabled it won't get stuck again |
| 18:53.32 | scanline | bleh for sysadminny stuff :P |
| 18:55.14 | darth_mall | heh |
| 18:55.29 | darth_mall | poor scanline, I still love you |
| 19:00.36 | scanline | hrm |
| 19:05.54 | *** join/#tacobeam pagefault (~pagefault@67.71.46.49) |
| 19:06.00 | pagefault | bleh |
| 19:06.02 | pagefault | morning |
| 19:06.05 | pagefault | coffee time |
| 19:12.00 | kergoth | hey TD |
| 19:12.41 | TD | heya |
| 19:12.43 | TD | hm |
| 19:12.50 | TD | i hate it when these "gnome users are too noisy!" threads crop up |
| 19:13.01 | kergoth | http://www.openembedded.org/cgi-bin/moin.cgi/Buildsystems_2fRulesOfThumb |
| 19:13.02 | TD | they immediately send me on a guilt trip for posting there at all, which can't be healthy |
| 19:13.07 | kergoth | if anyone has anything to add to that page, feel free |
| 19:13.51 | darth_mall | TD: heh |
| 19:14.39 | TD | kergoth: hmmm, i understand the first point but it does imply we'll never leave autotools behind if everybody follows that advice ... |
| 19:15.48 | CIA-3 | spacegrant: 03maccarro * r962 10mck/PyMCK/ (4 files in 3 dirs): Priority dependency requests are implemented, and preliminary support for them is in the ground software. |
| 19:16.06 | kergoth | TD: a tool which is sufficiently superior would be a good enough reason. that rule is there to prevent _frivilous_ use of nonstandard tools, or people who avoid autoconf _just to avoid autoconf_. if a good enough replacement comes along, by all means use it |
| 19:16.19 | TD | lol |
| 19:16.29 | kergoth | yeah |
| 19:16.30 | TD | i think the only system that'd qualify right now is scons |
| 19:16.35 | kergoth | lets write our own configure script... because we can! |
| 19:16.35 | TD | but i never get a chance to use it |
| 19:16.57 | kergoth | yeah, scons looks nice |
| 19:21.11 | darth_mall | wow... that OS lecture was actually interesting |
| 19:37.38 | purple_cow | TD: care to try packaging that RC? |
| 19:37.55 | TD | purple_cow: of fyre? |
| 19:38.07 | purple_cow | yep |
| 19:38.21 | TD | sure, is that head or some tag? |
| 19:39.21 | TD | yeah, i have some local patches though so being able to merge up to it with svn would be useful |
| 19:41.32 | purple_cow | it's both head on that branch and tagged |
| 19:41.39 | TD | cool, thanks |
| 19:43.01 | darth_mall | moo! |
| 19:43.08 | kergoth | TD: how's the description of rule #1 on that buildsystems rules of thumb page look now? clearer? |
| 19:44.04 | purple_cow | rofl |
| 19:44.05 | purple_cow | http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/children/kidtalk.mspx |
| 19:44.11 | TD | kergoth: yep, better :) |
| 19:44.20 | TD | purple_cow: they're so sincere! try clicking yes at the bottom |
| 19:44.26 | TD | does it work for you? for me it gave an error :) |
| 19:44.41 | purple_cow | hehe, yep |
| 19:44.56 | purple_cow | good error |
| 19:52.04 | purple_cow | rofl |
| 19:52.05 | purple_cow | http://www.divisiontwo.com/articles/linuxbeat3.htm |
| 19:53.57 | kergoth | "Since I wasn't sure if grandma Helen planned on getting under the hood of the boot process at all," .. tell me, what grandma gets under the hood of the boot process? |
| 19:54.32 | TD | "But I also really like the speed of Gentoo and the dependability of its Portage package management system." |
| 19:54.33 | TD | hahahah |
| 19:54.39 | TD | no offence to gentoo but it's not a grandma distro |
| 19:54.48 | TD | WOO |
| 19:54.49 | TD | "Since I couldn't decide which she would like better, I gave her both--I had a ton of hard disk space to work with anyway." |
| 19:55.04 | darth_mall | lol |
| 19:55.09 | kergoth | choice is well and good, but that much choice for a grandma is just fucking confusing |
| 19:55.13 | kergoth | what an idiot |
| 19:57.14 | kergoth | my dad finally sent me my xmas present the other day. new full tower antec case with 6 fans, setup so the inside is always under a slight positive pressure to keep the dust out |
| 19:57.53 | darth_mall | neat |
| 19:58.18 | pagefault | time for MSG fix |
| 19:58.21 | pagefault | ramen is good |
| 19:58.24 | purple_cow | TD: by the end of the article i'd decided it was satire ;) |
| 19:58.32 | kergoth | hehe |
| 19:58.54 | *** join/#tacobeam luqui (~luqui@c-67-165-197-242.client.comcast.net) |
| 19:59.17 | luqui | Hi folks |
| 19:59.27 | darth_mall | hey luqui |
| 19:59.41 | luqui | I have a bunch of stuff that I want to put in /navi, but it won't let me |
| 20:00.28 | purple_cow | yep, scanline hasn't added rw support yet |
| 20:00.34 | TD | purple_cow: navi.cx/~mike/fyre-1.0.0.x86.package |
| 20:00.38 | TD | http:// |
| 20:00.45 | purple_cow | i can file it on the individual disks if you tell me where it is |
| 20:01.08 | luqui | okay, I'm organizing it so you don't have to sift through all the other crap in my home dir |
| 20:01.57 | luqui | ~fibonaci/naviize |
| 20:02.09 | luqui | the ones that start with numbers go in series/Family_Guy |
| 20:02.19 | luqui | It's pretty obvious where a_clockwork_orange goes |
| 20:07.12 | scanline | kergoth: it's not supposed to be a serious article :P |
| 20:07.26 | kergoth | heh, yeah, i get that now |
| 20:07.39 | kergoth | this week sucks, its like one bigass monday |
| 20:08.02 | scanline | neat, a fyre autowidget |
| 20:08.13 | scanline | that should go into flapjack's releases/fyre/testing dir :) |
| 20:08.28 | scanline | since navi ain't all that bandwidthful |
| 20:09.02 | scanline | hehe |
| 20:09.05 | kergoth | This is to announce yaird, Yet Another mkInitRD, a rewrite of mkinitrd |
| 20:09.05 | kergoth | based on hotplug algorithms. |
| 20:09.07 | kergoth | neat. |
| 20:09.22 | kergoth | "if it uses sysfs to determine what hardware needs to be supported, |
| 20:09.22 | kergoth | and if it closely follows the methods hotplug uses find the modules |
| 20:09.23 | kergoth | needed to support some hardware." |
| 20:09.49 | TD | but ... it's by greg kh |
| 20:09.51 | TD | so it must be evil |
| 20:10.03 | kergoth | From: Erik van Konijnenburg <ekonijn@xs4all.nl> |
| 20:10.04 | kergoth | heh |
| 20:10.34 | TD | bah |
| 20:10.36 | TD | linux copy/paste still sucks |
| 20:10.42 | TD | i should be able to copy RTF from abiword into emacs dammit |
| 20:13.46 | kergoth | yep |
| 20:14.08 | kergoth | i hate the dual clipboard thing. in mozilla you can do the highlight/middleclick, or you can do ctrl+c/ctrl+v, and they go to seperate buffers |
| 20:14.23 | purple_cow | uhhuh =P |
| 20:17.55 | TD | that's a mozilla bug |
| 20:18.01 | TD | oh, no, wait |
| 20:18.04 | TD | that's how it's supposed to work |
| 20:21.54 | scanline | wobblik |
| 20:22.13 | scanline | oh, dangit |
| 20:22.19 | scanline | forgot slimspace|away's therm |
| 20:22.29 | scanline | guess he'll have to actually visit our living room or something... |
| 20:25.17 | darth_mall | nooooooooooo |
| 20:25.19 | darth_mall | he can't come in! |
| 20:25.22 | scanline | pooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooke |
| 20:28.12 | purple_cow | dowdy says, " "... Other variants of Unix, including DEC Unix and some versions of Linux, have migrated from 32-bit time representations to 64-bit. This allows future time to be expressed up to about the year 292271023045, which is well after the sun has exploded, consumed the earth, and removed all traces of MS-DOS."" |
| 20:28.16 | darth_mall | oh crap... |
| 20:28.17 | CIA-3 | spacegrant: 03dowty * r963 10mck/PyMCK/Hardware/Micronet/CommandList.py: whitespace consistency |
| 20:28.24 | darth_mall | it sounds like Birhan is telling Kendra he's quitting... |
| 20:28.41 | scanline | ADCS guy? |
| 20:29.21 | darth_mall | yeah |
| 20:29.37 | darth_mall | he was supposed to be sorting through the symulink because he's the only one who knows anything about it |
| 20:30.22 | purple_cow | urgh |
| 20:30.30 | scanline | TD: I just copies your autopackage to the directory in the /topic.. so hopefully we can get a few people to test it before announcing 1.0 |
| 20:30.45 | scanline | s/s/d/ |
| 20:30.58 | TD | scanline: cool |
| 20:31.20 | scanline | I also should test those windows packages... my laptop was in linux at the time, so odds are they've never been run :) |
| 20:31.32 | TD | minor details |
| 20:31.37 | scanline | yep |
| 20:34.13 | pagefault | 1.0 soon? |
| 20:34.49 | CIA-3 | navi-misc: 03evan * r6967 10xchat-gnome/fe-gnome/navigation_tree.c: Whitespace and comments. |
| 20:36.58 | purple_cow | hmm, i wonder if this dbus thing is even in bugs.gentoo |
| 20:41.17 | scanline | pagefault: we have a 1.0.0 release in testing, in the topic |
| 20:41.24 | scanline | pagefault: after it's been tested a bit we'll announce it |
| 20:41.33 | pagefault | cool |
| 20:43.00 | scanline | grr |
| 20:43.03 | scanline | need java on this laptop... |
| 20:43.26 | TD | it's huge unfortunately. like, 50mb. and fedora is sucking at it |
| 20:43.39 | TD | they use some alternatives fork that can't detect the official jre |
| 20:44.01 | scanline | bleh |
| 20:44.36 | scanline | I think this laptop already has wine... |
| 20:44.49 | scanline | grr, nope |
| 20:45.44 | pagefault | need someone to test the wind0ze build? |
| 20:46.18 | scanline | yes |
| 20:46.25 | pagefault | ok |
| 20:46.26 | kergoth | hrm |
| 20:46.28 | pagefault | let me boot up my notebook |
| 20:46.31 | scanline | so that would be appreciated :) |
| 20:46.57 | darth_mall | better get off to class |
| 20:51.31 | *** join/#tacobeam pagefault_ (pagefault@67.71.46.49) |
| 20:52.57 | pagefault | ugh |
| 20:52.59 | pagefault | I hate windows |
| 20:53.27 | scanline | yep |
| 20:53.43 | purple_cow | heh |
| 20:53.47 | TD | man the jdk installer is so old-skool |
| 20:54.06 | scanline | mmm |
| 20:54.39 | TD | there is a fedora equivalent, i just can't be bothered learning about it |
| 20:54.44 | TD | which says a lot about fedora, probably |
| 20:54.47 | TD | normally i'd just use gcj |
| 20:55.46 | TD | it comes out of the box on fc3 |
| 20:55.49 | pagefault | windows version seems to work well |
| 20:55.56 | scanline | cool |
| 20:55.57 | pagefault | although the installer never showed me a readme file when I told it to |
| 20:56.02 | scanline | hmm |
| 20:56.08 | scanline | odd.. that's worked for me before |
| 20:56.14 | scanline | do the documentational-thingies in the start menu work? |
| 20:56.17 | TD | btw it's nice how it tells you that you don't have to accept the gpl |
| 20:56.26 | TD | i wish nsis supported that out of the box so all win32 gnu programs were uniform |
| 20:56.29 | scanline | thanks, it's a gripe of mine with windows installers :) |
| 20:56.30 | pagefault | yeah those work |
| 20:56.38 | TD | yeah, mine too :) |
| 20:57.02 | pagefault | let me quickly test cluster mode |
| 20:57.49 | pagefault | yep that seems to work well too |
| 20:57.51 | scanline | wow |
| 20:57.58 | pagefault | at least using a win32 client with linux clusters |
| 20:58.03 | scanline | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:58.03 | scanline | No JAVA_HOME available! Please set your Java Virtual Machine |
| 20:58.05 | scanline | THIS SYSTEM VM IS NOT SUFFICIENT, REQUIRED BINARIES WERE NOT FOUND |
| 20:58.06 | scanline | System Virtual Machine set |
| 20:58.11 | TD | i hate java |
| 20:58.14 | scanline | yeah |
| 20:58.27 | scanline | hehe |
| 20:59.09 | scanline | har |
| 20:59.24 | scanline | there's no "java" binary in my path |
| 20:59.35 | scanline | but /opt/sun-jre-bin-1.4.2.06/bin/java works |
| 20:59.57 | pagefault | yep everything seems to work |
| 21:00.19 | TD | scanline: mine gets put in /usr/java for some reason |
| 21:01.45 | TD | kergoth: what makefile rule do i really mean here? |
| 21:01.53 | TD | %.class: %.java |
| 21:01.53 | TD | @echo Compiling sources ... |
| 21:01.53 | TD | @echo |
| 21:01.53 | TD | javac -d ../build/WEB-INF/classes $< |
| 21:02.07 | TD | it's only doing one at once. i want to pass all the .java files together |
| 21:02.24 | kergoth | thats implicit. any target that matches that will use that rule |
| 21:02.35 | kergoth | sounds like you just need whatever target you're building to depend on all of the .class files |
| 21:02.41 | kergoth | i.e. all: $(CLASSES) |
| 21:02.44 | TD | it does |
| 21:02.46 | TD | all:: $(OBJECTS) |
| 21:03.03 | TD | oh, i see what you mean |
| 21:03.07 | kergoth | okay, what do you mean by pass all the .java files together? |
| 21:03.14 | kergoth | make interprets that as one individual rule for each object |
| 21:03.26 | kergoth | its using the implicit one since the specific rules for them dont exist |
| 21:03.41 | scanline | :) |
| 21:03.48 | scanline | arr |
| 21:04.01 | TD | kergoth: it's ok, i got it |
| 21:04.03 | kergoth | k |
| 21:04.05 | scanline | so I used a nice standard polynomial for my therms' CRC-16... |
| 21:04.13 | kergoth | hehe |
| 21:04.18 | pagefault | haha the little fan on my notebook is on full speed now |
| 21:04.18 | scanline | now I look back on the CRC-16 I implemented for work, and can't figure out what the heck it's doing |
| 21:07.15 | purple_cow | egads |
| 21:07.20 | purple_cow | those screenshots in #xchat frighten me |
| 21:08.46 | TD | purple_cow: hm? |
| 21:09.01 | TD | what does java use for an unsigned int? |
| 21:09.04 | TD | i thought it was uint .. |
| 21:09.22 | purple_cow | this guy was showing screenshots of something he considered an improvement to the UI |
| 21:09.29 | purple_cow | but he was in 6 furry channels |
| 21:09.55 | TD | does it even have a uint type? |
| 21:15.09 | pagefault | scanline, what does the quality number mean at the bottom? |
| 21:15.12 | pagefault | I can't find anything about it in the readme |
| 21:15.57 | scanline | pagefault: it's fyre 1.0's new quality metric- the easiest way to explain it is that it's the average number of samples in histogram space per unit of distance traveled in color space |
| 21:16.21 | scanline | pagefault: it's much more consistent than the "peak density" metric, so it works much better for animations and for doing predictable image renders |
| 21:16.54 | purple_cow | probably not a bad idea to stick something about it in the readme |
| 21:17.39 | pagefault | scanline, ah cool |
| 21:19.44 | scanline | not me |
| 21:21.12 | scanline | oh |
| 21:21.24 | scanline | damnit.. this actually is in fact the CCITT standard polynomial |
| 21:21.28 | scanline | just like it was supposed to be |
| 21:22.22 | purple_cow | uhm |
| 21:22.29 | purple_cow | why does the README list gtk 2.4 as a hard dependency? |
| 21:22.49 | purple_cow | granted, i haven't tried compiling against 2.0 or 2.2 recently, but it should work (?) |
| 21:26.54 | scanline | the readme probably hasn't been updated in quite a while |
| 21:31.01 | CIA-3 | spacegrant: 03dowty * r964 10mck/PyMCK/ (Struct.py Test/test_struct.py): Speed up our CRC-16 implementation |
| 21:35.59 | purple_cow | huh |
| 21:36.05 | purple_cow | my svn doesn't have blame? |
| 21:39.56 | purple_cow | scanline: what should i recommend as a good default quality? |
| 21:41.14 | scanline | 1.0 is the default for command line rendering, which seemed sensible |
| 21:41.21 | scanline | for most images 2.0 is quite high quality |
| 21:41.38 | scanline | it's still no psychovisual model, but it's better than peak density :) |
| 21:42.05 | scanline | if you change 1.0, we should make sure to update that tag |
| 21:42.23 | purple_cow | i won't change the default, i'm just adding some documentation on this |
| 21:42.47 | pagefault | yay CRC16 |
| 21:42.55 | scanline | 1.0 means that, on average, the number of histogram samples equals the number of samples you cross as you traverse the output colorspace |
| 21:43.07 | scanline | but since that's an average, you might see graininess in some areas still |
| 21:44.00 | scanline | and even though the histogram samples increase monotonically, the color tables are also changing |
| 21:44.07 | scanline | so the quality may get noisy sometimes |
| 21:45.36 | CIA-3 | navi-misc: 03jupiter 07fyre-1.0 * r6968 10/README: add a quick blurb on the new quality metric |
| 21:46.42 | scanline | purple_cow: looks good |
| 21:47.21 | scanline | hmm |
| 21:47.29 | scanline | might want to change that dependencies section too :) |
| 21:51.41 | CIA-3 | navi-misc: 03jupiter 07fyre-1.0 * r6969 10/README: fix dependencies |
| 21:51.52 | scanline | and make me coffee! |
| 21:53.35 | pagefault | is there any way to compile a cluster-only version of fyre |
| 21:53.40 | pagefault | so I don't need gtk and etc |
| 21:53.42 | scanline | no |
| 21:53.44 | pagefault | aww |
| 21:53.47 | scanline | you'd need gtk even without the GUI |
| 21:54.19 | scanline | but it's not that hard to make a self-contained package with the fyre binary and gtk .so files and such |
| 21:55.18 | pagefault | just I really do not want to install X on this box |
| 21:55.28 | pagefault | and that is required for gtk |
| 21:55.59 | scanline | you don't need X to run fyre |
| 21:56.09 | pagefault | yeah but I need X to compile gtk |
| 21:56.10 | scanline | you just need the libraries |
| 21:56.21 | scanline | so compile gtk on a different machine |
| 21:56.37 | pagefault | won't gtk while and moan about missing libraries when I try to run it? |
| 21:56.40 | pagefault | err whine |
| 21:56.49 | scanline | well you include the libs gtk needs also :P |
| 21:56.51 | scanline | http://flapjack.navi.cx/releases/fyre/snapshots/fyre-self-contained-20041130-2.tar.gz |
| 21:57.01 | scanline | that's a little old, but it's what we use to run fyre on purple_cow's cluster |
| 21:57.11 | scanline | I should make a script to put those together |
| 21:57.23 | purple_cow | didn't you already make a script for that? |
| 21:57.30 | scanline | did I? |
| 21:57.45 | scanline | I don't think I did... |
| 21:57.57 | scanline | though it's very similar to what the win32 packaging system does |
| 21:58.01 | scanline | so I could base it on that |
| 21:58.25 | purple_cow | TD: uhh - looks like i think you did, but it might have been in /navi/tmp... |
| 21:58.42 | purple_cow | err |
| 21:58.45 | purple_cow | whoops |
| 21:58.51 | purple_cow | ignore those first few words ;) |
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| 22:01.36 | CIA-3 | navi-misc: 03jupiter 07fyre-1.0 * r6970 10/autopackage/default.apspec.in: update this. TD, lemme know if i break things |
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| 22:20.43 | darth_mall | silly slimspace |
| 22:20.46 | darth_mall | he's full of meat |
| 22:21.13 | slimspace | mmm, meat |
| 22:21.20 | kergoth | have you the BRAIN WORMS? |
| 22:22.09 | purple_cow | ooh, f-spot has libgphoto2 support now |
| 22:25.17 | darth_mall | scanline is so naughty |
| 22:37.04 | scanline | yep |
| 22:37.28 | purple_cow | kergoth: you should look for "circlesongs" on ubernet :) |
| 22:37.46 | kergoth | heh, will do |
| 22:38.08 | kergoth | saw 3 doors down in concert last night. they were pretty good, should pick up the new album |
| 22:42.23 | CIA-3 | spacegrant: 03dowty * r966 10mck/PyMCK/DataLogger.py: |
| 22:42.24 | CIA-3 | spacegrant: Break this, in the name of science. Starting to rearrange things to have |
| 22:42.24 | CIA-3 | spacegrant: separate classes for reading and writing, since we have fairly different |
| 22:42.24 | CIA-3 | spacegrant: requirements and environments for both. Now the reader uses an algorithm similar |
| 22:42.24 | CIA-3 | spacegrant: to the microcontroller protocol, but it can't be exactly the same due to our |
| 22:42.24 | CIA-3 | spacegrant: different packet length doodads. |
| 22:45.31 | purple_cow | urgh |
| 22:45.37 | purple_cow | damn my procrastination! |
| 22:45.44 | CIA-3 | navi-misc: 03mike 07fyre-1.0 * r6971 10/autopackage/default.apspec.in: It only requires gtk 2.2 now |
| 22:45.55 | purple_cow | TD: 2.2? why not 2.0? |
| 22:45.55 | TD | looks ok |
| 22:46.10 | TD | purple_cow: i thought it used some 2.2 features, iirc the readme said that was the baseline |
| 22:46.12 | TD | no? |
| 22:46.21 | purple_cow | for some reason the readme said 2.4 |
| 22:46.40 | purple_cow | i haven't tested on <2.4 in quite some time just because i don't have any machines with it |
| 22:46.44 | purple_cow | but it ought to work... |
| 22:46.44 | TD | well, i tested it against 2.2 so i'm a bit happier to keep it there than make it use 2.0 |
| 22:46.53 | TD | i don't think many people are on < RH9 |
| 22:54.55 | pagefault | RH* is eww |
| 22:56.12 | TD | i liked it |
| 23:02.02 | ChipX86 | scary high-pitched whiny sound occurred |
| 23:02.14 | ChipX86 | I hope it wasn't my laptop. I couldn't tell.. though I think it's in another room |
| 23:02.20 | ChipX86 | fan still works, dmesg shows nothing |
| 23:02.55 | samyb | Try feeding it. |
| 23:03.08 | TD | or telling it off |
| 23:05.21 | pagefault | haw |
| 23:05.24 | pagefault | that happens to me |
| 23:05.26 | pagefault | I hear some noise |
| 23:05.30 | pagefault | and I think it's my notebook |
| 23:05.36 | pagefault | and it's now |
| 23:05.36 | pagefault | err not |
| 23:05.42 | ChipX86 | damn evolution |
| 23:05.44 | ChipX86 | stop crashing |
| 23:05.50 | pagefault | never my notebook |
| 23:05.53 | pagefault | it's quiet :) |
| 23:06.02 | kergoth | i'm really in a weird mental state this week |
| 23:06.11 | kergoth | i read you say 'damn evolution' and was waiting to hear you wish you were a monkey or something |
| 23:06.12 | ChipX86 | I'm getting nothing done this week :/ |
| 23:06.46 | ChipX86 | the only bugs I have are ones I have no intention on spending any time with, since they're these impossible bugs are "Uh, I have no repro case" bugs |
| 23:07.03 | kergoth | 14:29 <+CosmicPenguin> Damn, this has been the week from hell |
| 23:07.07 | kergoth | 14:46 <+CosmicPenguin> God must be pissed at the Grammy results or something |
| 23:09.39 | ChipX86 | ooh, pretty f-spot logo |
| 23:09.59 | TD | ChipX86: welcome to my hell |
| 23:10.02 | TD | pretty much every bug is like that |
| 23:10.05 | ChipX86 | :/ |
| 23:10.21 | TD | "I have /usr/bin symlinked to an NFS mount in a totally different place and the gaim autopackage breaks" |
| 23:10.59 | TD | "When I print from a Domino database that embeds a custom Java applet while synchronising with our backup corporate server but not our primary, Lotus Notes says 'File Not Found'" |
| 23:11.20 | purple_cow | ouch |
| 23:11.37 | TD | "I pasted a picture into Word and my X server crashed WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO ABOUT IT" |
| 23:12.29 | ChipX86 | :/ |
| 23:12.55 | TD | the most amusing ones are where people clearly have busted setups but try and get us to fix it |
| 23:13.00 | ChipX86 | this one guy says a dialog isn't popping up in this very clean code path |
| 23:13.09 | ChipX86 | a bunch of people tested it. It works. Nobody could reproduce it |
| 23:13.21 | ChipX86 | the code path is very straight-forward |
| 23:13.29 | ChipX86 | he claims it's a major bug that I must fix before release |
| 23:13.40 | TD | "I installed gentoo and it worked then i did an upgrade and now whenever I run Word or Evolution garbage is printed to my console. Please advise" |
| 23:13.48 | ChipX86 | heh |
| 23:14.02 | TD | "By the way my CFLAGS are -fomit-frame-pointer -funsafe-optimizations -O3" |
| 23:14.09 | TD | oh yes |
| 23:14.12 | purple_cow | hah |
| 23:14.27 | TD | "iTunes won't connect to the music store. I reinstalled it several times and can't think of what it might be. Everything is pretty normal" |
| 23:14.41 | TD | "The only thing slightly unusual is that this is a pure64 Ubuntu Hoary system" |
| 23:14.57 | purple_cow | rofl |
| 23:15.02 | ChipX86 | hahaha |
| 23:15.06 | TD | GNAAAHA A POX UPON PEOPLE WHO EXPECT THAT TO WORK |
| 23:15.35 | pagefault | hehe |
| 23:15.41 | TD | actually, having said that, my initial diagnosis was correct and he went away impressed |
| 23:15.43 | TD | but. |
| 23:16.21 | TD | they still suck :) |
| 23:19.25 | ChipX86 | http://www.divisiontwo.com/articles/linuxbeat3.htm :) |
| 23:19.38 | TD | old news ;) |
| 23:19.45 | ChipX86 | pffft |
| 23:20.09 | hardwire | my office smells like a hooker. |
| 23:20.21 | ChipX86 | dare I ask why? |
| 23:20.30 | hardwire | the sales rep that I just met with smelled like one. |
| 23:20.38 | hardwire | she was designed to sell |
| 23:20.47 | TD | haha |
| 23:20.56 | TD | what does a hooker smell like, exactly? |
| 23:21.03 | ChipX86 | hahahaha, they want us to take a survey on how the IT department is doing! |
| 23:21.06 | ChipX86 | this is great |
| 23:21.13 | hardwire | TD: sexy.. |
| 23:21.18 | hardwire | and hookery |
| 23:21.27 | ChipX86 | they ask us this after one e-mai lserver permanently ate everyone's e-mail, two others went down, perforce stopped working, and the NFS server died off |
| 23:21.47 | ChipX86 | not to mention the proxy server not working for a good portion of a day |
| 23:22.00 | purple_cow | heh |
| 23:22.08 | purple_cow | hmm |
| 23:30.47 | ChipX86 | this amuses me |
| 23:30.56 | ChipX86 | I went to that MS "1337 sp3ak" guide thing |
| 23:31.03 | ChipX86 | clicked No on the "Was this information useful?" |
| 23:31.15 | ChipX86 | and it said they are experiencing technical problems and can't record my feedback |
| 23:31.15 | TD | java does not have a uint type |
| 23:31.17 | TD | how lame |
| 23:31.24 | ChipX86 | unsigned int |
| 23:31.27 | TD | ChipX86: yeah, that happens for everybody |
| 23:31.48 | TD | SystemWS.java:23: <identifier> expected |
| 23:31.48 | TD | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:31.55 | TD | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:32.02 | ChipX86 | huh |
| 23:32.27 | TD | every time i use this language i hate it more |
| 23:32.37 | TD | it's basically a straightjacket but in the form of a context-free grammar |
| 23:33.14 | ChipX86 | hurray, jacket! |
| 23:35.09 | TD | there should be a #freedevelopers channel |
| 23:35.12 | kergoth | i cant believe i found my c700 last night |
| 23:35.16 | TD | or #linuxdevelopers |
| 23:35.19 | kergoth | after it having been missing for a year |
| 23:35.28 | TD | where all the random people who inhabit #gnome-hackers can go and not get shouted at for being offtopic |
| 23:35.37 | ChipX86 | make one |
| 23:35.39 | ChipX86 | give me ops |
| 23:35.49 | purple_cow | heh |
| 23:35.51 | kergoth | TD: i think its important for any group of developers to have a channel to just chill and b/s in. |
| 23:35.56 | kergoth | heh |
| 23:35.59 | TD | yeah, exactly |
| 23:36.03 | ChipX86 | yep |
| 23:36.12 | TD | i can understand them being frustrated about the list |
| 23:36.19 | TD | and i am guilty of posting rubbish to it |
| 23:36.20 | purple_cow | hmm, like....#tacobeam! |
| 23:36.25 | TD | IRC i'm rather less symapthetic about |
| 23:36.33 | TD | yeah #tacobeam is cool |
| 23:36.51 | TD | ChipX86: #linuxdevelopers is born |
| 23:37.06 | TD | though maybe it could have a better name |
| 23:37.19 | kergoth | gnomebs! |
| 23:37.19 | kergoth | oh wait |
| 23:37.21 | kergoth | :P |
| 23:37.24 | TD | heh |
| 23:37.28 | TD | kergoth: join! |
| 23:39.04 | lurgy | bleh |
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| 23:39.29 | lurgy | why do people bother bidding on ebay stuff 2 days before items close |
| 23:39.52 | purple_cow | TD: #lounge? |
| 23:40.10 | kergoth | devlounge perhaps? |
| 23:40.11 | lurgy | #compuhyperglobalmeganet |
| 23:40.17 | TD | haha |
| 23:40.18 | TD | yes |
| 23:40.22 | TD | #devlounge is good |
| 23:41.20 | TD | kergoth: done |
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