| 00:00.25 | purple_cow | but that interaction is just a shortcut to the data on the left |
| 00:00.42 | purple_cow | i think it's weird to new users if the mouse does something on the image by default unless we somehow made the tools more obvious |
| 00:01.02 | TD | hmm, ok. a toolbar maybe? |
| 00:02.52 | purple_cow | i really don't like the idea of adding more UI for something we've already got multiple interfaces to |
| 00:07.27 | purple_cow | as you use fyre, the tools become habit. i don't think it's a great idea to default to a tool because a single mouse click can easily screw up a long rendering |
| 00:07.42 | TD | fair enough |
| 00:09.44 | ChipX86 | I should shower and get some shopping done and stuff |
| 00:09.53 | ChipX86 | been working since I got up |
| 00:09.53 | scanline | aww |
| 00:10.00 | scanline | my cluster is empty |
| 00:10.57 | scanline | it's just a little odd that even navi was gone |
| 00:11.02 | purple_cow | yeah, that's weird |
| 00:11.15 | CIA-5 | autopackage: 03mike * 10autopackage/foobar/autopackage/default.apspec.in: Revert a testing fix so foobar installs again |
| 00:11.19 | scanline | hopefully within 5 minutes it will do another scan and detect it |
| 00:11.52 | scanline | TD: cool. we should put that up on flapjack :) |
| 00:12.31 | scanline | TD: it'd also be nice to have a script for making autopackage releases, kinda like the ones we have now for automagically assembling windows binaries |
| 00:13.03 | ChipX86 | hmm, pizza |
| 00:14.10 | TD | scanline: there is one |
| 00:14.16 | scanline | hmm |
| 00:14.18 | TD | just install the dev tools and run "makeinstaller" in the source root |
| 00:14.19 | scanline | fyre is missing a --version |
| 00:14.26 | scanline | neat |
| 00:14.44 | TD | and yeah, i was hoping you'd say that :) |
| 00:14.55 | scanline | hmm. where does the autopackage install to? |
| 00:15.00 | TD | building autopackages is easy but after 1.0 i'd rather evangelise it than build tons of demo packages for people |
| 00:15.03 | scanline | my /usr/bin/fyre is still an 0.10svn I installed |
| 00:15.10 | TD | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:15.15 | TD | or ~/.local if run as user |
| 00:16.36 | TD | it did not work for you? |
| 00:16.37 | scanline | ah |
| 00:16.49 | scanline | it installed, but I was confused.. it's actually an 0.10svn, not 0.9 |
| 00:16.57 | TD | oh, whoops |
| 00:17.05 | TD | i built from the branch but must have forgotten to update the specfile |
| 00:17.08 | TD | or it didn't regen properly |
| 00:17.12 | scanline | ah |
| 00:17.28 | TD | yes, my bug |
| 00:19.27 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03mike 07fyre-1.0 * r6843 10/autopackage/default.apspec.in: Put @VERSION@ in the autopackage specfile |
| 00:19.43 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03micah 07fyre-1.0 * r6844 10/src/main.c: Add --version, document it and --help |
| 00:20.44 | ChipX86 | yay Katamari On The Rock |
| 00:24.49 | TD | yay autopackage 1.0 beta 1 is ready for testing! |
| 00:25.56 | TD | man the support code is 270kb these days |
| 00:26.02 | TD | a bit piggy. i wonder where it all went |
| 00:26.06 | ChipX86 | wow |
| 00:26.12 | purple_cow | urg. TD: when i said "feel free to do that", i meant actually doing the icon install dir, not just killing the sed :P |
| 00:26.17 | lurgy | ehhhhhhhhh....... |
| 00:26.18 | TD | oh, sorry |
| 00:26.33 | TD | why is the sed necessary? |
| 00:26.43 | TD | surely if the icons are in the theme it should look in the right path automatically |
| 00:27.14 | purple_cow | because the icons are currently installed to /usr/share/fyre/, not the theme |
| 00:27.14 | TD | ahh |
| 00:27.35 | TD | sorry! do you want me to put the @DATADIR@ bits back? |
| 00:28.23 | purple_cow | hang on |
| 00:28.59 | purple_cow | oof, it's still doing the sed, just there's nothing to replace =P |
| 00:29.14 | TD | yeah |
| 00:29.24 | scanline | purple_cow: huh. somebody put soap in the dishwasher already, but it wasn't on |
| 00:29.39 | ChipX86 | I am hated by our snapshot manager |
| 00:31.04 | purple_cow | scanline: i thought i turned it on... |
| 00:31.10 | lurgy | hehe |
| 00:32.03 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03jupiter 07fyre-1.0 * r6845 10/ (TODO data/fyre-fa.desktop.in data/fyre.desktop.in): revert that sed thing for now and clarify the TODO entry for how to fix it |
| 00:32.20 | lurgy | purple_cow: so, the ravel is definitely much cooler than the puccini, imho.... :) |
| 00:32.26 | lurgy | the puccini is nice |
| 00:32.30 | lurgy | but the ravel is sweet |
| 00:32.34 | purple_cow | lurgy: music-wise, perhaps. what's the story of the ravel? |
| 00:32.35 | lurgy | where by sweet i mean totally awesome |
| 00:32.44 | lurgy | heh, you people and your stories |
| 00:32.49 | scanline | lurgy: you should run fyre rendering daemons on your roommates' machines ;) |
| 00:32.59 | scanline | hmm... |
| 00:32.59 | purple_cow | the puccini is cool because they drag a dead guy around stage for the entire thing |
| 00:33.06 | lurgy | purple_cow: it's a surreal thing, sort of alice-and-wonderlandey |
| 00:33.46 | lurgy | except.. less.. er.. childoriented |
| 00:33.59 | lurgy | i gather there's a fairly crude cat orgy scene |
| 00:34.05 | ChipX86 | a what? |
| 00:34.13 | lurgy | yep |
| 00:34.14 | lurgy | an orgy |
| 00:34.17 | ChipX86 | a cat orgy |
| 00:34.18 | lurgy | of.. well, cats |
| 00:34.22 | ChipX86 | cats, or cat girls? |
| 00:34.26 | lurgy | cats |
| 00:34.32 | ChipX86 | well that's not good |
| 00:34.43 | lurgy | well, that's 20th century opera :) |
| 00:35.11 | lurgy | there's also a scene where the kid gets tired and sits in a chair, and i guess it starts eating him |
| 00:35.21 | scanline | hrm |
| 00:35.50 | scanline | but I shoudl really do this here CAPA... |
| 00:35.56 | lurgy | and a scene where people start singing old elementary school style story problems |
| 00:36.10 | lurgy | "two trains leave a station twenty minutes apart.." |
| 00:36.15 | lurgy | except.. well, in french |
| 00:36.28 | purple_cow | heh |
| 00:36.32 | ChipX86 | yay lonely rolling star |
| 00:36.56 | scanline | lurgy: I hate robbing banks! |
| 00:37.19 | lurgy | scanline: me too.. me too. |
| 00:37.36 | kergoth`bbl | man |
| 00:37.43 | kergoth`bbl | cleaning my entire apartment is one _hell_ of a project |
| 00:37.54 | purple_cow | heh |
| 00:38.03 | purple_cow | hmm, this pizza here sounds fantastic |
| 00:38.05 | kergoth`bbl | i can see floor! and counters! |
| 00:38.06 | kergoth`bbl | its neat. |
| 00:38.08 | ChipX86 | pizza |
| 00:38.33 | ChipX86 | shower. pizza. |
| 00:38.40 | purple_cow | yellow bell pepper, red onion and chorizo on ranchero sauce + monterey jack |
| 00:38.44 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03micah 07fyre-1.0 * r6846 10/TODO: It would be nice to have some windows systray-fu for console renderings and cluster nodes |
| 00:38.58 | TD | is there linux systray-fu? |
| 00:39.03 | purple_cow | nope |
| 00:39.04 | scanline | nyet |
| 00:39.14 | scanline | though there are init scripts for linux, which is more appropriate |
| 00:39.19 | TD | true |
| 00:39.30 | kergoth`bbl | heh, you could always make it a service in windows |
| 00:39.36 | scanline | yeah |
| 00:39.41 | scanline | need to figure out how to do that |
| 00:39.57 | scanline | still, it would be nice to have a systray widget that would enable and disable verbose mode |
| 00:40.18 | scanline | woo |
| 00:40.23 | scanline | -q 2.0 makes such pretty renderings |
| 00:40.53 | TD | ah, translations |
| 00:40.54 | scanline | http://navi.cx/~micah/fyre-unfiled/escape-1600.png |
| 00:40.56 | TD | no wonder it got so big :( |
| 00:41.20 | kergoth`bbl | scanline: ooh. |
| 00:41.22 | purple_cow | mmm |
| 00:41.26 | TD | oh, 420k of libexec binaries too |
| 00:41.47 | scanline | escape-1600 took a 2-machine cluster about 2 hours ;) |
| 00:42.05 | TD | hmm none of it really deletable, unless we replace libcurl |
| 00:42.08 | TD | which we could do .... |
| 00:43.42 | scanline | mmm |
| 00:43.54 | scanline | I like it almost as much as wicker shoelace |
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| 00:46.14 | pagefault | greetings |
| 00:48.55 | scanline | yay for awfully big files on deviantart... |
| 00:50.31 | pagefault | that site always acts like it's being hosted on a 28.8 modem |
| 00:50.43 | scanline | yeah |
| 00:50.49 | scanline | not surprising considering how many gigantic image files it hosts |
| 00:51.02 | scanline | I wouldn't want to pay their bandwidth bill... |
| 00:51.15 | pagefault | me either |
| 00:54.13 | CIA-5 | opencombat: 03jeffm2501 * 10opencombat_P24/data/startup/ (logo.png planet.png drive.png file.png folder.png): image updates |
| 00:55.17 | scanline | http://navi.cx/gallery/fyre |
| 00:55.17 | scanline | yay |
| 00:56.57 | pagefault | I have no idea how some of those were made |
| 00:57.01 | scanline | :) |
| 00:57.10 | scanline | that's what's so cool about fyre |
| 00:57.18 | scanline | it seems so simple at first, then you discover all these little nuances |
| 00:57.27 | scanline | and nearly every time you play with it you find something new |
| 00:57.39 | pagefault | yeah |
| 00:59.38 | pagefault | polywidget is pretty cool |
| 00:59.52 | scanline | :) |
| 01:00.31 | scanline | 'antibacterial' was my wallpaper for about a week.. now I'm on Escape |
| 01:01.47 | pagefault | oversampling sure makes a differenc |
| 01:01.51 | scanline | yep |
| 01:01.57 | scanline | especially 'cuz it's gamma-correct ;) |
| 01:02.03 | pagefault | :) |
| 01:02.19 | scanline | it's disgusting how many lookup tables fyre uses |
| 01:04.02 | pagefault | :P |
| 01:05.15 | pagefault | you might have to move the gallery somewhere else if fyre gets really popular |
| 01:05.36 | scanline | I could maybe move it to flapjack, but I'm a little wary of using mod_php on there |
| 01:05.40 | scanline | it's already kinda tight on RAM |
| 01:06.06 | pagefault | for lookup tables we just have a sin/cos and a guassian table |
| 01:06.09 | pagefault | not really that much |
| 01:06.10 | scanline | ah |
| 01:06.22 | scanline | fyre has color tables, quality tables, gamma tables, oversampling tables.... |
| 01:06.39 | scanline | the color table is fairly giant |
| 01:08.53 | pagefault | hmm, neat, I haven't really looked at the source |
| 01:10.55 | pagefault | brb |
| 01:15.52 | ChipX86 | yay, fixed this one big bug |
| 01:19.44 | ChipX86 | Cherry Blossom Color Season is cute |
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| 01:29.37 | ChipX86 | WOO |
| 01:29.42 | ChipX86 | I'm free |
| 01:31.57 | TD | hmm |
| 01:32.06 | ChipX86 | everything should |
| 01:32.49 | TD | i'm gonna rewrite visual-ldd someday |
| 01:32.54 | TD | it generates scads of warnings |
| 01:32.56 | TD | needs qt, etc |
| 01:32.59 | TD | is kind of buggy |
| 01:33.13 | TD | really we want some kind of ELF Explorer tool like you can get on windows |
| 01:34.40 | TD | aaaaaah |
| 01:34.50 | TD | it's for EXR. C++ compiler is used even when EXR is not being built |
| 01:36.59 | TD | hmm, i guess automake is detecting the fact that there is an optional c++ file and always using g++ regardless |
| 01:37.00 | TD | pain |
| 01:38.32 | ChipX86 | TD: have you noticed how gnotify kind of died out? Or at least, nobody talks about them anymore |
| 01:38.51 | TD | i think notifications in general got put on the backburner |
| 01:38.59 | TD | did you see the guy trying to run it on galago-devl? |
| 01:39.39 | ChipX86 | nope |
| 01:39.47 | ChipX86 | oh wait, when? |
| 01:39.52 | TD | today |
| 01:39.58 | ChipX86 | oh |
| 01:39.59 | TD | there is some memory corruption they are running into |
| 01:40.05 | TD | i've seen it before, on and off, but never nailed it down |
| 01:40.15 | ChipX86 | rodrigo is on the list now |
| 01:40.32 | ChipX86 | we're going to largely need to start fresh, due to the d-bus changes |
| 01:40.52 | ChipX86 | well, not start fresh I guess |
| 01:40.55 | TD | well the marshalling code and protocol will need to change yes |
| 01:40.59 | TD | the rest can stay the same |
| 01:41.00 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 01:42.06 | TD | well |
| 01:42.13 | TD | both galago and autopackage are coming up to 1.0 releases, yes? |
| 01:42.38 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 01:42.53 | ChipX86 | the beagle guys still claim galago breaks beagle |
| 01:43.01 | ChipX86 | I know it's not galago's fault.. but oh well |
| 01:43.50 | TD | huh? |
| 01:43.51 | TD | how? |
| 01:44.14 | ChipX86 | dunno |
| 01:44.20 | TD | how could it possibly break beagle? the two are totally different |
| 01:44.25 | TD | does it write to the disk constantly or something? |
| 01:44.27 | ChipX86 | they use D-BUS for some things |
| 01:44.34 | ChipX86 | I think it's the C# bindings for D-BUS |
| 01:45.08 | ChipX86 | rml keeps bugging me about it. He claims it's because I turn off the auto-exit on disconnect, but I haven't gotten him to verify if that fixes it when he removes that from libgalago |
| 01:45.15 | ChipX86 | I should get beagle on here soon and mess with it more |
| 01:45.17 | TD | ahhh |
| 01:45.27 | ChipX86 | me neither really |
| 01:45.38 | TD | whatever |
| 01:45.41 | TD | how far away is galago 1.0 |
| 01:45.45 | ChipX86 | I think they ran into something that's maybe even D-BUS's fault, and because they ran into it when using galago, they blame galago |
| 01:46.04 | ChipX86 | well, I need to test it with the new D-BUS, and then I want to add a person selector widget (though I can't figure out a good design for that that I like), and then I want to release it |
| 01:46.13 | ChipX86 | there will be some bugs that I've seen but can't track down... but it'll be releasable |
| 01:46.19 | ChipX86 | maybe not 1.0.. Going to call it 0.1. |
| 01:46.29 | TD | hmmm |
| 01:46.34 | TD | would it be api stable? |
| 01:46.37 | ChipX86 | mostly |
| 01:46.42 | ChipX86 | I think |
| 01:46.47 | ChipX86 | but I honestly can't guarantee it at this point |
| 01:46.58 | ChipX86 | there's pretty much no real world use of galago yet |
| 01:47.17 | TD | fair enough |
| 01:47.20 | ChipX86 | I could just call it 0.5 :) |
| 01:47.27 | TD | call it 0.9 ;) be optimistic |
| 01:47.40 | ChipX86 | heh |
| 01:47.40 | TD | is that's going to be a major release? |
| 01:47.52 | TD | i mean are you going to wait for it to gain traction before doing more work on it? |
| 01:48.02 | ChipX86 | no, I plan to start implementing support in projects |
| 01:48.15 | ChipX86 | and I have some features I wnat to add to galago |
| 01:48.36 | ChipX86 | so there's more planned.. it's just been on hold lately for a few reasons |
| 01:48.47 | TD | ok |
| 01:48.47 | ChipX86 | I want to shower |
| 01:48.52 | ChipX86 | and then get food and clean |
| 01:48.56 | ChipX86 | so I'll bbl |
| 01:49.28 | TD | it'd be nice to get it into gnome 2.12 |
| 01:55.56 | TD | hmmm |
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| 01:59.17 | pagefault | stupid buggy python script |
| 01:59.17 | pagefault | bah |
| 02:04.24 | ChipX86 | erm, why was my phone bill paid twice |
| 02:05.21 | ChipX86 | woo, VMware messed up on my bonus |
| 02:05.31 | ChipX86 | it was $40 less than it should have been, and they fixed it |
| 02:06.04 | ChipX86 | geeze, what an expensive month |
| 02:06.34 | pagefault | yay bonus |
| 02:10.57 | pagefault | ooh cool |
| 02:11.04 | pagefault | I made a thingy in fyre that looks like an eye |
| 02:14.49 | CIA-5 | autopackage: 03mike * 10autopackage/main/ (ChangeLog share/apkg-script-utils share/apkg-ttyfe): |
| 02:14.50 | CIA-5 | autopackage: share/apkg-ttyfe: Fix a few bugs that messed up the summary in the fyre package |
| 02:14.50 | CIA-5 | autopackage: share/apkg-script-utils: Only set CC and CXX to apbuild if they aren't already set (fyre build needs this). Don't disable static builds and dependency tracking. |
| 02:15.52 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03mike 07fyre-1.0 * r6847 10/autopackage/default.apspec.in: Override the C++ compiler in the autopackage specfile so we don't get a bogus c++ dependency |
| 02:41.03 | scanline | hmm |
| 02:41.21 | scanline | fyre is linked with g++, but that's really only necessary when we use openexr |
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| 03:26.35 | ChipX86 | grr, this really sucks |
| 03:26.49 | ChipX86 | my HTPC case has a loose connection in the power button area |
| 03:26.55 | ChipX86 | I can't figure out how it's happening |
| 03:29.11 | CIA-5 | opencombat: 03jeffm2501 * 10opencombat_P24/ (8 files in 3 dirs): menu system and startup screen |
| 03:33.58 | lurgy | lies! |
| 03:34.00 | lurgy | or, no |
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| 04:19.02 | ChipX86 | :DD |
| 04:19.37 | ChipX86 | got a card from Jamie |
| 04:23.04 | lurgy | aw |
| 04:26.45 | ChipX86 | yay! my bug was marked as fixed with: |
| 04:26.50 | ChipX86 | "Cool. You shall get a cookie." |
| 04:35.46 | lurgy | yay |
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| 04:48.59 | darth_mall | silly hands bein' cold |
| 04:49.31 | lurgy | baaaaaaad hands! baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaad! |
| 04:52.59 | ChipX86 | ooh, interesting Atlantis tonight |
| 05:32.58 | ChipX86 | where is everyone tonight? |
| 05:35.47 | lurgy | 'oh.. lolligagging |
| 05:50.50 | purple_cow | mmmm |
| 05:50.52 | purple_cow | that was tasty :) |
| 05:53.07 | scanline | mmmmm |
| 05:53.12 | scanline | yep |
| 05:55.46 | lurgy | mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm! |
| 06:02.34 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03micah 07fyre-1.0 * r6848 10/contrib/fyre_remote.py: Make fyre_remote take an optional host[:port] command line option |
| 06:09.59 | scanline | slimspace|away: pokepoke |
| 06:19.31 | ChipX86 | mplayer in ubuntu hoary is all screwed up |
| 06:23.48 | scanline | hi slimspace |
| 06:23.51 | slimspace | hey scanline |
| 06:25.24 | ChipX86 | I came up with a cool name for my PVR software/addons/whatever: Excess Radiation |
| 06:25.48 | CIA-5 | spacegrant: 03maccarro * r945 10doc-misc/symposium/pymck_paper.tex: Yay, symposium abstract submitted |
| 06:26.59 | scanline | :) |
| 06:27.22 | purple_cow | hmm, ya know |
| 06:27.25 | scanline | chipX86: you could call it OpenEXR |
| 06:27.32 | purple_cow | even if we don't have fyre 2.0 finished, we could submit it as a poster ;) |
| 06:27.38 | scanline | hehe |
| 06:28.06 | purple_cow | i think that's a pretty standard academic technique |
| 06:28.44 | scanline | purple_cow: the problem is that I think all the interesting nuances of fyre 2.0's architecture won't really emerge until we start getting it working |
| 06:28.55 | purple_cow | true |
| 06:29.24 | ChipX86 | meh, my remote control's only drivers exist as kernel patches. I get to build the kernel again. |
| 06:29.35 | scanline | can't build them as modules? |
| 06:29.43 | ChipX86 | I guess I could |
| 06:29.48 | purple_cow | ChipX86 needs an mi6k |
| 06:29.50 | ChipX86 | I was hoping there was native support |
| 06:29.50 | scanline | yes |
| 06:29.55 | ChipX86 | I want a mi6k so badly |
| 06:30.00 | scanline | :) |
| 06:30.29 | scanline | and I already have a "mi6k portable" that I don't really use |
| 06:34.38 | ChipX86 | ooh yay, Futurama! |
| 06:34.50 | pagefault | yep watching it here |
| 06:36.06 | ChipX86 | yay Near Death Star |
| 06:41.06 | purple_cow | sweet |
| 06:41.10 | purple_cow | corpse bride looks awesome :) |
| 06:41.19 | ChipX86 | trailer? |
| 06:42.04 | purple_cow | on apple |
| 06:42.12 | scanline | aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaapple |
| 06:42.31 | ChipX86 | hurray for anything Tim Burton |
| 06:42.38 | ChipX86 | which reminds me, Edward Scissorhands is on my tivo |
| 06:43.29 | ChipX86 | hurray for it wanting to go to itms |
| 06:44.17 | purple_cow | yep |
| 06:45.32 | purple_cow | s/itms/http, find the url in that xml page |
| 06:45.51 | lurgy | j! |
| 07:04.48 | ChipX86 | freevo is having a fun time not playing any of my music |
| 07:05.08 | purple_cow | down and safe! |
| 07:12.44 | ChipX86 | cool, won't play videos either |
| 07:12.57 | ChipX86 | wonder what's going on |
| 07:17.46 | scanline | mplayer kersplodie? |
| 07:18.08 | ChipX86 | it must.. I got videos to work though. Just not audio now. Still, freevo is neat |
| 07:21.31 | scanline | freevo is neat when it isn't annoying the crap out of you |
| 07:21.58 | ChipX86 | ah-ha |
| 07:22.01 | ChipX86 | stupid esd |
| 07:22.41 | ChipX86 | well, it's neat, but I will be developing my own I think |
| 07:22.43 | ChipX86 | or at least parts of my own |
| 07:22.59 | ChipX86 | at least music and video work now |
| 07:23.21 | ChipX86 | ew, you can't play music and do other things at the same time? |
| 07:25.53 | scanline | you can |
| 07:26.12 | scanline | you can bind a key to background the music- by default it will show up in a little info thingy in the corner of the string |
| 07:26.17 | ChipX86 | oh, ok |
| 07:31.07 | ChipX86 | hmm so I guess Alex is on his way to NYC now |
| 07:31.25 | ChipX86 | I should do that someday. Just fly to NYC or some place for a weekend |
| 07:32.48 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03micah 07fyre-1.0 * r6849 10/ (BUGS src/parameter-holder.c): Rewrite ParameterHolder deserialization such that it only resets a parameter to its default if necessary rather than resetting all parameters then setting those specified in the string. This fixes the first item in BUGS. |
| 07:34.38 | purple_cow | boulder? :) |
| 07:34.44 | ChipX86 | maybe |
| 07:34.56 | ChipX86 | hrm. I don't do anything on the weekends anyway. I can afford to travel now. |
| 07:35.09 | ChipX86 | I'm just not the travelling type, which is the real problem |
| 07:50.41 | ChipX86 | oh wow, the ac patches are back |
| 07:55.59 | purple_cow | hmm, what a surprise. zak left her cilantro |
| 08:10.54 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03micah 07fyre-1.0 * r6850 10/src/ (histogram-imager.c image-fu.c): Compute the quality metric by sampling on a fixed reduced-resolution grid. This should give about the same result, and takes about 1/40th the CPU on a 600x600 4x oversampled default image. |
| 08:13.02 | ChipX86 | time to update fyre |
| 08:16.04 | purple_cow | :) |
| 08:19.07 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03micah 07fyre-1.0 * r6851 10/ (BUGS src/main.c): Speed up and clean up command line animation rendering, remove the quality metric slowness from BUGS. |
| 08:19.57 | ChipX86 | see, this is a good error message. This is how windows should be. |
| 08:20.08 | ChipX86 | "By default, I assume you know what you are doing, and I apologize for being so annoying. Should I abort[Ny]?" |
| 08:20.47 | purple_cow | heh |
| 08:33.34 | purple_cow | aww |
| 08:33.41 | purple_cow | C# doesn't have an 'inline' keyword :( |
| 08:33.48 | purple_cow | it relies on the JIT to be smart enough |
| 08:39.51 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03micah 07fyre-1.0 * r6852 10/src/main.c: Don't kersplode without --pidfile :P |
| 08:41.39 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03micah 07fyre-1.0 * r6853 10/src/discovery-server.c: Print out a sensible warning instead of a lot of gnet internal errors if we can't listen on the UDP autodiscovery port |
| 08:43.22 | scanline | yep |
| 08:49.51 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03micah 07fyre-1.0 * r6854 10/BUGS: |
| 08:49.51 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: Remove the two cluster autodetection "bugs". The problem with finding multiple |
| 08:49.51 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: server on one host doesn't have an easy solution, since it's actually a problem |
| 08:49.51 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: with two processes listening on the same UDP port. Fixing the problem with |
| 08:49.51 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: detecting local fyre servers would really require a way to detect how many CPUs |
| 08:49.52 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: are on the current machine, and we don't have a portable way to do that yet. |
| 08:51.14 | ChipX86 | I'm having a hard time finding anything interesting in fyre anymore |
| 08:51.53 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r6855 10fyre/Histogram.cs: add the very beginnings of a partial port of HistogramImager to C# for performance testing purposes |
| 08:52.22 | scanline | :( |
| 08:52.31 | scanline | we must have used up all the interesting images |
| 08:52.34 | scanline | all gone! |
| 08:52.37 | ChipX86 | yep :( |
| 08:52.42 | purple_cow | heard that one before :P) |
| 08:52.50 | ChipX86 | it's true this time! |
| 08:53.10 | purple_cow | hehe |
| 08:57.46 | scanline | hmmmm |
| 08:57.56 | scanline | this partial merge bug would be best fixed server-side |
| 08:58.40 | ChipX86 | that one is kind of neat |
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| 09:15.31 | ChipX86 | http://osiris.chipx86.com/fyre/wireframe.png |
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| 09:22.59 | purple_cow | hey look, ChipX86 made a new background for kirby :) |
| 09:23.19 | scanline | :) |
| 09:24.07 | purple_cow | mmm pretty |
| 09:30.36 | ChipX86 | bah, 2.6.10 still has broken dma for my thinkpad |
| 09:31.28 | purple_cow | =( |
| 09:31.39 | ChipX86 | but the tablet works right now! :D |
| 09:31.49 | ChipX86 | no it doesn't. |
| 09:32.35 | purple_cow | hrmph |
| 09:32.44 | purple_cow | what's an array equal to before it's initialized? :P |
| 09:32.52 | ChipX86 | garbage |
| 09:33.02 | purple_cow | the C# docs i have are woefully incomplete in areas like this |
| 09:33.06 | ChipX86 | oh |
| 09:33.39 | scanline | ooh |
| 09:33.49 | scanline | I just made a fyre server that crashes the clients |
| 09:33.53 | ChipX86 | yay! |
| 09:43.22 | ChipX86 | stupid computers |
| 10:02.50 | purple_cow | hrm |
| 10:02.56 | purple_cow | how do i link in gdk using mcs? |
| 10:06.54 | scanline | purple_cow: isn't it something like -r:gtk-sharp? |
| 10:07.24 | purple_cow | david@kirby ~/projects/navi-misc/fyre $ mcs Histogram.cs -r:gdk-sharp |
| 10:07.24 | purple_cow | error CS0006: Cannot find assembly `gdk-sharp' |
| 10:07.35 | ChipX86 | use -pkgconfig |
| 10:08.14 | purple_cow | ChipX86: i don't see any documentaiton on that? |
| 10:08.52 | ChipX86 | er, -pkg |
| 10:08.55 | ChipX86 | so -pkg:gtk-sharp |
| 10:09.04 | ChipX86 | mono-only feature though |
| 10:13.01 | purple_cow | huh. docs say that mono-only features only use --gnu-style-options :P |
| 10:13.08 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r6856 10fyre/ (. Histogram.cs): more implementation |
| 10:13.08 | ChipX86 | hmmm |
| 10:15.19 | scanline | blehh... this buffering code is buggy, and it's probably somewhat slower than the old code |
| 10:15.35 | purple_cow | cool |
| 10:16.00 | purple_cow | arg, why does my clock go all wrong by 5 hours when i shut down? |
| 10:16.26 | scanline | erg, I should do that physics homework.... |
| 10:18.25 | purple_cow | time for more ice cream |
| 10:22.00 | scanline | haha |
| 10:22.02 | scanline | http://cardboard.nu/blog/2005_02_12/a_use_for_unary.html |
| 10:23.14 | purple_cow | hah |
| 10:23.52 | purple_cow | useful |
| 10:23.57 | scanline | yep |
| 10:26.08 | ChipX86 | linux is making me cry |
| 10:26.48 | scanline | ha |
| 10:27.42 | scanline | chipX86: you should run linux without hardware, most OSes are easier to set up that way |
| 10:27.46 | ChipX86 | yeah. |
| 10:28.37 | ChipX86 | the wacom tablet won't work right.. I can't enable DMA on this drive because of a bug in 2.6.9 and 2.6.10.. my new 2.6.10 kernel won't boot on gaea. The stock kernel won't see my audigy card. I can't compile the hauppauge drivers. |
| 10:29.03 | purple_cow | =( |
| 10:36.33 | scanline | a red strobe light? |
| 10:36.58 | purple_cow | yep |
| 10:37.13 | scanline | that's probably the reason you never see people using red strobe lights |
| 10:37.18 | scanline | they cause memory damage |
| 10:37.47 | purple_cow | lemon curry? |
| 10:37.53 | scanline | sure |
| 10:47.45 | scanline | why doesn't python's math module know about the permittivity of free space constant? :P |
| 10:58.02 | purple_cow | hmm, sleep... |
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| 11:16.53 | purple_cow | hehe, fyre's freshmeat page just moved up a spot on google |
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| 13:41.19 | CIA-5 | autopackage: 03mike * 10autopackage/main/ (ChangeLog share/apkg-funclib): Download latest/autopackage-gtk.x86.package, ie drop the -latest suffix from the package name. This is a workaround for the fact that 0.7 was a busted release which downloaded from /latest but actually required 0.7 |
| 13:44.43 | CIA-5 | autopackage: 03mike * 10autopackage/main/TODO: Add a new TODO list item about renaming installDesktop() |
| 13:50.33 | CIA-5 | autopackage: 03mike * 10autopackage/main/ (ChangeLog release/autopackage-build): release/autopackage-build: Add a Makefile to the -devel tarball so they can easily install it. Rearrange -devel to have less stuff |
| 13:56.12 | Sophie_away | lemon curry.. god that sounds tasty. |
| 13:57.58 | Sophie_ | may that other sophie rot in hell! |
| 13:58.33 | Sophie_ | it's beautiful here. |
| 13:59.13 | TD | where is here? |
| 13:59.26 | Sophie_ | melbourne, fl |
| 14:00.15 | Sophie_ | there are lots of engineering jobs here |
| 14:00.22 | Sophie_ | the cost of living is pretty low |
| 14:00.34 | Sophie_ | and there's no state income tax. |
| 14:01.15 | Sophie_ | there are 6 or 7 aerospace companies with locations in Melbourne |
| 14:01.59 | TD | hmm |
| 14:02.06 | TD | sounds nice |
| 14:02.12 | TD | though i already have a job that lets me work anywhere |
| 14:02.22 | TD | so assuming i still have it in a year and a half, i could (theoretically) go anywhere |
| 14:02.35 | TD | of course there's a huge difference between somewhere where you don't know anybody, and somewhere you do |
| 14:04.06 | TD | Sophie_: do you work in melbourne then? |
| 14:04.07 | CIA-5 | autopackage: 03mike * 10autopackage/main/release/autopackage-build: Whoops, here-docs evaluate, so use an echo instead |
| 14:05.39 | Sophie_ | I'm a student here |
| 14:05.52 | TD | ah, i'm a student in the uk |
| 14:06.00 | TD | the upside is, i get to live in a castle in my first/third years |
| 14:06.06 | TD | the downside is, i'm a student in the uk :) |
| 14:06.55 | Sophie_ | the castle bit sounds cool. |
| 14:06.56 | TD | what's a tostido? |
| 14:07.14 | Sophie_ | what's a tostido?!?!! |
| 14:07.21 | TD | http://www.dur.ac.uk/university-college.www/Images/Photos/Gatehouse.jpg |
| 14:07.35 | Sophie_ | oh, I spelled it wrong. Tostito. |
| 14:07.56 | TD | http://www.dur.ac.uk/Law/c_tour/hall.html <-- that's where we have meals |
| 14:07.59 | TD | except this year i'm living out |
| 14:08.37 | TD | ok |
| 14:08.43 | TD | what is a tostito? |
| 14:09.06 | Sophie_ | that's pretty fancy. |
| 14:09.43 | Sophie_ | it's a tasty, tasty, tasty tortilla chip. |
| 14:10.06 | Sophie_ | so then do people play polo there? |
| 14:10.07 | TD | alright :) i know what tortillas are |
| 14:10.14 | TD | polo? i have no idea. i don't think so |
| 14:10.22 | TD | maybe a few. Rugyb and rowing are the big things here |
| 14:10.26 | TD | and football of course |
| 14:10.30 | TD | er, that's "rugby" :) |
| 14:10.52 | Sophie_ | and do the girls all wear knee socks and look flushed? |
| 14:11.37 | TD | lol |
| 14:11.41 | TD | i can tell ;) |
| 14:11.45 | TD | no, not all the time |
| 14:11.51 | TD | some girls look flushed and wear knee socks |
| 14:11.57 | TD | well. ok. not "some". a few |
| 14:12.00 | TD | sometimes |
| 14:12.25 | Sophie_ | I'd do it every day if I lived there. |
| 14:12.40 | TD | what, look flushed? or wear knee socks? |
| 14:12.40 | Sophie_ | and I'd wear "knickers" |
| 14:12.44 | TD | haha |
| 14:12.55 | TD | yes! |
| 14:13.13 | TD | and buy coloured bags of crisps |
| 14:13.28 | Sophie_ | instead of tostitos? |
| 14:13.32 | TD | i've been to florida on holiday once |
| 14:13.40 | TD | crisps are called chips in america |
| 14:13.47 | TD | you know, ready salted, cheese and onion |
| 14:13.53 | Sophie_ | yes, how's you like it? |
| 14:14.10 | TD | it was great! but i was 10 and we went to disneyland, so it we didn't see much of florida |
| 14:14.21 | TD | we went to the keys one time |
| 14:14.32 | TD | and had key lime pie. mm, that was great. |
| 14:15.05 | TD | really? well, i suppose that makes sense. i live about 30 minutes from Diggerland, and have never been there either |
| 14:15.19 | TD | even though when my friends hear that i live near a theme park devoted to diggers, they are amazed I haven't been |
| 14:15.45 | Sophie_ | is a "digger" a mole? |
| 14:15.51 | Sophie_ | or a backhoe? |
| 14:16.35 | TD | hehe |
| 14:16.45 | TD | a backhoe i guess. it's used for digging up streets and things |
| 14:16.57 | Sophie_ | oh! |
| 14:17.19 | Sophie_ | my husband would love it there. I must tell him! |
| 14:17.43 | TD | there is probably a bigger and better equivalent somewhere in florida |
| 14:18.00 | TD | DIGGERLAND instead of Diggerland |
| 14:18.49 | TD | yes, it's usual to be married if you have a husband |
| 14:19.25 | Sophie_ | still seems weird. |
| 14:19.33 | TD | so you went back to university then? or just got married eraly |
| 14:19.36 | TD | early |
| 14:20.17 | Sophie_ | oh. I'm 25. |
| 14:20.27 | Sophie_ | got married a year ago |
| 14:20.33 | TD | ahhh, met at uni? |
| 14:20.47 | Sophie_ | nope. At work. |
| 14:21.11 | TD | spiffy. what job do you do? |
| 14:21.46 | Sophie_ | he's a software engineer, I was interning |
| 14:22.05 | Sophie_ | I'm a comp sci major |
| 14:22.27 | Sophie_ | you, too? |
| 14:22.37 | TD | that's what #tacobeam is all about :) |
| 14:22.41 | TD | yes, i do compsci |
| 14:23.08 | TD | only one and a half more years to go! |
| 14:23.44 | TD | why is being married weird? |
| 14:24.23 | Sophie_ | because it comes with a big bag of cliches, I guess |
| 14:24.40 | Sophie_ | when you're just together, you can be whatever you want |
| 14:25.01 | TD | hmm |
| 14:25.12 | TD | i suppose you have to start calling each other "honey" and things :) |
| 14:26.33 | Sophie_ | yes. People think that I should dress him nicely and nag him to take out the garbage and things |
| 14:26.56 | Sophie_ | I'd really rather not |
| 14:28.03 | Sophie_ | and people ask about babies, and assume that I want to start popping them out like muffins.. |
| 14:28.30 | TD | lol |
| 14:28.40 | TD | i'll never think about muffins in the same way |
| 14:30.00 | Sophie_ | I'm curious, what's your name? |
| 14:31.35 | TD | mike |
| 14:31.43 | TD | i'm going to take a wild stab in the dark and say that yours is sophie |
| 14:32.00 | TD | i "know" (as in, have never met but would like to) ChipX86_ and scanline |
| 14:32.14 | TD | and some of the others here as well, i guess, been chatting here long enough :) |
| 14:33.17 | Sophie_ | my name is Gina. And I "know" gonkulator and scanline, and lalo and file and darth_mall |
| 14:33.27 | Sophie_ | some better than others |
| 14:33.47 | Sophie_ | and I know KeyserSoze biblically, if you know what I mean. |
| 14:33.47 | TD | oh, ok, bad guess on my part! |
| 14:33.58 | TD | yes, vaguely ... |
| 14:34.06 | Sophie_ | lol |
| 14:34.11 | TD | i don't really know much about KeyserSoze |
| 14:34.16 | TD | why do you call yourself Sophie on IRC but Gina in real life? |
| 14:34.58 | Sophie_ | I like Sophie better. And I chose it when I was an Op in a large warez channel, so I couldn't really use my real name. |
| 14:35.06 | TD | hah |
| 14:35.29 | TD | the origins of TD is a mystery |
| 14:35.41 | TD | (in othe words, it's not a mystery but it's stupid so I'm not going to tell you) |
| 14:36.21 | Sophie_ | is it from a character in a book? |
| 14:36.24 | TD | nope |
| 14:36.27 | TD | oh |
| 14:36.27 | TD | wait |
| 14:36.28 | TD | yes |
| 14:36.56 | Sophie_ | hmm |
| 14:37.08 | Sophie_ | what's the author's first name? |
| 14:37.27 | TD | lewis |
| 14:37.34 | TD | (giving it away now ...) |
| 14:37.40 | TD | http://www.stupid.com/stat/MRTP.html |
| 14:37.46 | TD | think i should get my brother that for his birthday? |
| 14:38.07 | TD | actually last time i went to burtons they were selling digital cameras for a tenner |
| 14:40.49 | Sophie_ | sounds like you really care for your brother |
| 14:40.56 | TD | lol |
| 14:41.08 | TD | i do, but he doesn't really want anything. he just wants a surprise |
| 14:41.30 | TD | he has apparently reached material happyness. took 19 years but he finally got there |
| 14:41.47 | TD | i'm the same way, can never think of things i'd like for birthdays/christmas. so we just get each other silly fun toys |
| 14:41.55 | Sophie_ | he's only 19 but he's materially happy? |
| 14:42.26 | Sophie_ | is he Buddist? |
| 14:43.19 | Sophie_ | I think they take non-virgins |
| 14:43.38 | Sophie_ | they might even encourage sexual relations |
| 14:43.53 | TD | heh |
| 14:44.06 | TD | no, he is hardly a buddhist. |
| 14:44.57 | TD | just lacking inspiration right now |
| 14:45.29 | Sophie_ | the funny thing about england is, it has no separation of church and state, yet you manage to be more secular than the US |
| 14:46.05 | TD | indeed |
| 14:46.08 | TD | well the US is a very big place |
| 14:46.16 | TD | i think the coastal areas are just as secular, in general |
| 14:46.29 | TD | or at least this is the impression i've always got. also the metropolitan areas |
| 14:46.34 | Sophie_ | I wonder why that is.. |
| 14:46.39 | TD | whereas the more rural/southern areas are far more religious |
| 14:47.08 | TD | in the UK there aren't any "deep south" type areas |
| 14:47.21 | TD | the poorest parts are inner-city areas or decaying towns |
| 14:47.39 | Sophie_ | I think the US is unique in that regard |
| 14:47.54 | TD | maybe. i think catholic countries like spain are a lot more religious too |
| 14:47.58 | Sophie_ | the "deep south", I mean |
| 14:48.01 | TD | ah, yes |
| 14:48.24 | TD | i think everybody here was pretty surprised when bush got a second term on the back of the religious right |
| 14:48.31 | TD | nobody knew much about it until that point |
| 14:48.35 | TD | well, beyond the fact that it existed i mean |
| 14:49.00 | Sophie_ | I'd been so optimistic. |
| 14:49.14 | Sophie_ | stupid election. |
| 14:49.18 | TD | it's funny how polarised people were. |
| 14:49.27 | TD | here most people fall into the "can't be bothered to vote" camp |
| 14:49.50 | Sophie_ | it's mostly the war |
| 14:50.14 | TD | i guess. i thought it was lots of things. war. terrorism. gay marriage |
| 14:50.47 | TD | i'm hardly an expert though |
| 14:51.15 | Sophie_ | it seems to me that there are lots of very simple people here. |
| 14:51.37 | Sophie_ | I've been tempted to move to europe or australia |
| 14:52.12 | TD | perhaps :) i used to think the same about people who voted conservative here, except now i have a couple of friends who are that way inclined and they are both pretty smart and fun people. so i just write them up as politically deluded but otherwise fine :) |
| 14:52.31 | TD | australia and europe are just less extreme versions of the states, really |
| 14:52.46 | Sophie_ | but here there is rabid nationalism |
| 14:52.47 | TD | i'm tempted to move to a tropical island when i'm out of univeristy |
| 14:53.00 | TD | no politics, and can work under a palm tree |
| 14:53.02 | Sophie_ | you can't turn your head without seeing an american flag, really. |
| 14:53.04 | TD | what more could you want :) |
| 14:53.11 | TD | oh, yes. i noticed that when i've been there |
| 14:53.29 | TD | in the last few years i've only been to cities. denver, minneapolis, that sort of place |
| 14:53.33 | Sophie_ | palm trees are very nice :) |
| 14:53.52 | TD | very patriotic people |
| 14:53.53 | Sophie_ | it gets worse in the country |
| 14:53.58 | Sophie_ | small towns |
| 14:54.13 | TD | yeah, i can imagine |
| 14:54.33 | Sophie_ | "Patroitism is your conviction that this country is superior to all others because you were born in it." - GB Shaw |
| 14:54.34 | TD | well sort of. i can imagine, based on what i see on TV and the movies |
| 14:54.38 | TD | which is probably pretty biased |
| 14:54.44 | TD | lol |
| 14:54.46 | TD | great quote |
| 14:55.52 | Sophie_ | people here feel like patriotism is this great moral value. |
| 14:55.55 | TD | still, i think most people in the england think it sucks :) would you rather be surrounded by patriotic or apathetic people? |
| 14:56.36 | Sophie_ | I'd rather be surrounded by people who are able to think through things |
| 14:57.05 | TD | yeah. i don't mind patriotism so much, it's when it gets in the way of progress that it's annoying |
| 14:57.19 | TD | eg, people say "but it's in the consitution" as if that was an argument instead of merely a statement of fact |
| 14:57.28 | TD | "You can't impose gun control, the constitution forbids it!" |
| 14:57.32 | TD | etc |
| 14:57.34 | Sophie_ | I mean, lots of people here believe that Iraq was full of terrorists before we invaded. And that the people fighting us now are "evil terrorists" |
| 14:57.45 | TD | this is the point at which i find out you or your husband is an NRA member :) |
| 14:57.54 | TD | lol |
| 14:58.13 | Sophie_ | no, lol |
| 14:58.17 | Sophie_ | my dad is though |
| 14:58.49 | Sophie_ | he went around putting up "Bush/Cheney" signs before the election |
| 14:59.02 | TD | i remember ChipX86_, myself and a few others had this huge argument/debate on gun control one night |
| 14:59.10 | TD | i think that was before #tacobeam actually. |
| 14:59.26 | TD | he was anti gun-control, and I and a candian guy were for it :) |
| 14:59.36 | TD | sparks flew, metaphorically speaking |
| 14:59.39 | TD | that was fun |
| 14:59.40 | Sophie_ | he has a cartoon on his wall of an eagle sharpening it's claws and captioned "Bring em on, Allah!" |
| 14:59.44 | TD | i should argue with chip more often, heh |
| 14:59.48 | TD | hahaha |
| 15:00.00 | TD | wow |
| 15:00.07 | TD | how stereotypically american :) |
| 15:00.21 | Sophie_ | wish I'd been around |
| 15:00.33 | Sophie_ | I haven't really decided about gun control |
| 15:01.25 | Sophie_ | yeah. Sometime people here seem to pride themselves in being steriotypical |
| 15:02.10 | TD | you get that in every social group though |
| 15:02.12 | Sophie_ | they think that right and wrong is black and white, so why shouldn't they try to be two-dimensional? |
| 15:02.44 | Sophie_ | that's true, I guess |
| 15:02.50 | Sophie_ | even computer geeks :) |
| 15:03.29 | TD | yeah, i was about to say that :) |
| 15:04.16 | TD | one of the few ways i am stereotypically geek is by using emacs as my IRC client |
| 15:04.21 | TD | yay integrated spell checking :) |
| 15:04.28 | TD | but i don't have a ponytail <shame> |
| 15:04.38 | Sophie_ | lol |
| 15:04.47 | Sophie_ | you're young yet. |
| 15:05.00 | TD | ok, so i won't *ever* have a ponytail |
| 15:05.16 | TD | you're a girl. it's perfectly acceptable :) |
| 15:06.30 | Sophie_ | oh well, I should go outside and play |
| 15:06.37 | TD | fair enough |
| 15:06.41 | Sophie_ | it's been swell, TD |
| 15:06.45 | TD | i should go buy my brother that cheap digicam |
| 15:06.54 | TD | okie doke, well see you around. have a nice day |
| 15:07.13 | Sophie_ | you too. |
| 16:28.28 | file | got my ID so I can get into the US |
| 16:52.59 | file[laptop] | wow, SGI has a booth in the Asterisk pavilion |
| 16:56.41 | *** join/#tacobeam pagefault (~pagefault@CPE002078ceec39-CM400026122447.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) |
| 16:58.22 | file[laptop] | hi pagefault |
| 16:59.03 | pagefault | hello file |
| 16:59.20 | file[laptop] | pagefault: got my photo ID today... so I am a 100% go on operation 'Get file to San Jose' |
| 16:59.46 | pagefault | nice |
| 16:59.57 | file[laptop] | so what is Pearson like? |
| 17:00.02 | file[laptop] | eh? EH? |
| 17:00.50 | pagefault | terminal 3 is nice |
| 17:00.52 | pagefault | 2 is bleh |
| 17:01.12 | *** topic/#tacobeam by lurgy -> <scanline> Is it just my lap or is it hot in here? || Happy birthday laodamas! |
| 17:01.24 | file[laptop] | ooh birthday |
| 17:02.03 | file[laptop] | pagefault: I enter Terminal 1, leave from Terminal 2 |
| 17:03.34 | pagefault | file[laptop], cool terminal 1 is new |
| 17:04.26 | file[laptop] | cool |
| 17:06.05 | pagefault | yeah |
| 17:08.56 | file[laptop] | so what'cha up to |
| 17:14.48 | pagefault | just doing a little coding right now |
| 17:18.44 | pagefault | you? |
| 17:20.10 | *** join/#tacobeam sbahra (~samy@212.76.79.243) |
| 17:20.19 | file | de nada |
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| 18:27.30 | file[laptop] | yup yup yup |
| 18:28.58 | nullpuppy | nope |
| 18:29.11 | file[laptop] | darn |
| 18:29.13 | file[laptop] | hi nullpuppy |
| 18:29.26 | nullpuppy | heya file[laptop] |
| 18:31.06 | *** join/#tacobeam pagefault (~pagefault@67.71.46.49) |
| 18:31.13 | pagefault | hey |
| 18:31.59 | file[laptop] | eek two page faults |
| 18:32.16 | nullpuppy | oh no! |
| 18:34.40 | pf[laptop] | yes |
| 18:34.47 | file | noooooo |
| 18:34.49 | nullpuppy | damn |
| 18:34.53 | nullpuppy | we're doomed then |
| 18:34.56 | nullpuppy | doooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooomed |
| 18:35.11 | file | indeed |
| 18:35.40 | nullpuppy | oooh, cheese sticks. yay |
| 18:35.46 | pf[laptop] | yay |
| 18:37.32 | pf[laptop] | hehe |
| 18:49.47 | CIA-5 | OpenGameFramework: 03jeffm2501 * 10OGF/ (inc/3dView.h src/animMesh.cpp vc71/OGF.vcproj): fixes, fixes and more fixes |
| 18:51.03 | CIA-5 | opencombat: 03jeffm2501 * 10opencombat_P24/ (5 files in 2 dirs): make stuff not suck as bad |
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| 19:21.03 | darth_mall | scanline, purple_cow: you can't pack that many large pots and pans in the dishwasher like that. It wastes a lot of space |
| 19:25.46 | pagefault | hehe |
| 19:25.51 | pagefault | brb switching to xchat |
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| 19:51.27 | darth_mall | hmm... this juice/tea stuff that ocean red makes is not very good... |
| 20:40.02 | CIA-temp966 | navi-misc: 03micah * r6857 10cia/LibCIA/IRC/Network.py: If self.port isn't none, make sure it's an integer |
| 20:42.29 | pagefault | simpsons |
| 20:47.50 | darth_mall | grr... wtf is gvim doing... |
| 20:48.42 | sbahra | annoying you. |
| 20:48.52 | darth_mall | apparently =\ |
| 20:49.05 | sbahra | :( |
| 20:52.06 | ChipX86 | and the place is mostly clean :D |
| 20:52.53 | CIA-temp966 | navi-misc: 03micah 07fyre-1.0 * r6858 10/src/histogram-imager.c: Add a heuristic to the quality computation such that silhouette renderings terminate |
| 20:53.31 | ChipX86 | I would be a happy person if I knew why this kernel wouldn't boot |
| 20:54.21 | pagefault | wow this episode of the simpsons is really messed up |
| 20:54.28 | ChipX86 | which? |
| 20:54.42 | pagefault | the one when they do the spinoffs |
| 20:55.10 | ChipX86 | oh yeah |
| 20:56.01 | pagefault | haha |
| 20:56.10 | pagefault | I wish they really did put that alien in that only homer could see |
| 20:56.15 | pagefault | like the great gazoo |
| 20:57.59 | ChipX86 | yay Komm Susser Tod |
| 20:58.50 | darth_mall | ChipX86: ^^ |
| 20:58.54 | darth_mall | that's a cool tune |
| 20:59.51 | ChipX86 | oh hey, want to bet my kernel won't boot because ATA/ATAPI/MFM/RLL support is a module? |
| 21:01.14 | darth_mall | I don't know if I'm going to be able to get this OS assignment done |
| 21:01.22 | darth_mall | I just can't seem to figure out how to even begin |
| 21:01.30 | ChipX86 | :( |
| 21:01.33 | ChipX86 | which assignment? |
| 21:01.37 | darth_mall | it's not that hard, either |
| 21:01.45 | slimspace | was fyre 1.0 ever released anywhere? |
| 21:01.46 | darth_mall | we have to kind of implement a user space threading library |
| 21:01.51 | ChipX86 | ick |
| 21:01.55 | scanline | hmm |
| 21:01.56 | scanline | http://navi.cx/~micah/foo.html |
| 21:02.00 | darth_mall | but I just don't get it |
| 21:02.05 | scanline | slimspace: 0.9 is the latest |
| 21:02.15 | darth_mall | scanline: that's pretty, what is it? |
| 21:02.19 | scanline | darth_mall: fyre :) |
| 21:02.22 | slimspace | ah |
| 21:02.40 | darth_mall | fyre did that? |
| 21:02.51 | darth_mall | pretty |
| 21:02.57 | darth_mall | they look like some kind of calligraphy |
| 21:03.03 | scanline | yep |
| 21:03.15 | scanline | ah, openssl finished |
| 21:03.43 | ChipX86 | mmm Vater Unser |
| 21:03.47 | ChipX86 | scanline: :( |
| 21:04.02 | scanline | ah, still need pyxml.. |
| 21:04.13 | darth_mall | scanline: I don't suppose you'd be up for giving me some help on OS later, would you? |
| 21:04.17 | darth_mall | my TA is useless |
| 21:04.18 | scanline | darth_mall: mmmaybe |
| 21:04.33 | darth_mall | if you have time, I'd appreciate it. if not, no worries |
| 21:04.36 | scanline | :) |
| 21:04.58 | scanline | all I really have planned for today is senior project stuff, fixing CIA, and maybe a little spacegrantystuff |
| 21:05.16 | scanline | mmm, packages |
| 21:06.13 | ChipX86 | or, should I hack on the HTPC app.. |
| 21:08.25 | ChipX86 | you install them on ubuntu |
| 21:08.53 | ToyKeeper | Rather, I should wonder what "goes to toy" means. :) |
| 21:09.04 | ChipX86 | seeing what it takes to make them, making some snapshot debs, etc |
| 21:09.22 | ToyKeeper | Ah, s/toy/play/... duh. :) |
| 21:10.18 | TD | or you could autopackage it ;) |
| 21:10.30 | ChipX86 | yeah, that's on the list |
| 21:10.30 | darth_mall | hmmm... we didn't even have an ADCS meeting this week and I'm still over hours |
| 21:10.33 | ChipX86 | last time I had trouble though |
| 21:10.37 | TD | heh |
| 21:10.43 | ChipX86 | it had to do with dbus and sonames or something |
| 21:11.01 | TD | yeah, well galago needs to be updated to the newest dbus |
| 21:11.03 | TD | (iirc) |
| 21:11.04 | ToyKeeper | I've found checkinstall rather useful... not sure it's appropriate for packages someone else might use, though. |
| 21:11.15 | ChipX86 | yeah, but it's trivial. I already looked into it |
| 21:11.19 | TD | cool |
| 21:12.06 | ChipX86 | is it dbus 0.23 or 0.30 that has the new type changes? |
| 21:12.10 | TD | not sure |
| 21:12.48 | ChipX86 | hmm, should eat.. |
| 21:12.59 | ChipX86 | hopefully Amanda and Chelsea are coming over today |
| 21:13.06 | darth_mall | oooh, fancy |
| 21:13.50 | ChipX86 | yay, Death Metal, and Katamari Damashii |
| 21:14.51 | purple_cow | scanline: don't park between the two buildings on monday |
| 21:15.13 | scanline | purple_cow: ok |
| 21:15.52 | ChipX86 | eep, rhythmbox doesn't support queueing songs |
| 21:16.33 | purple_cow | guh |
| 21:16.57 | ChipX86 | :/ |
| 21:17.01 | scanline | gnutls? |
| 21:17.08 | scanline | thread-local storage? |
| 21:17.24 | ChipX86 | SSL implementation |
| 21:17.31 | ChipX86 | pain to work with, but then, so is NSS |
| 21:17.49 | purple_cow | TLS is a standard for in-protocol encryption |
| 21:18.00 | scanline | ah |
| 21:18.30 | purple_cow | dunno why the evo calendars use it and not mail |
| 21:18.42 | ChipX86 | I keep trying to p5 open everything in the galago tree I want to work with :( |
| 21:18.46 | purple_cow | you'd think they'd support imap starttls |
| 21:18.58 | purple_cow | p5 open? |
| 21:19.09 | ChipX86 | perforce |
| 21:19.18 | ChipX86 | it's nice, but works much differently from svn and cvs |
| 21:19.49 | ChipX86 | you have to create a changeset and then open the file you want to work with before editting it |
| 21:24.24 | darth_mall | welp, gvim has decided to hate me |
| 21:24.43 | ChipX86 | meh, the new ServiceOwnerChanged signal confuses me |
| 21:24.49 | darth_mall | ugh, I'm not up to doing any hw right now |
| 21:25.14 | purple_cow | :) |
| 21:25.43 | ChipX86 | @^&(* |
| 21:25.47 | ChipX86 | they renamed it AGAIN |
| 21:26.20 | ChipX86 | so it went something like ServiceOwnerChanged -> ServiceCreated/ServiceDeleted -> ServiceOwnerChanged -> NameOwnerChanged |
| 21:26.28 | purple_cow | :P |
| 21:27.00 | purple_cow | it's a pretty young API, but there's no excuse for things like that :P |
| 21:27.05 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 21:28.02 | ChipX86 | so I have to support all of those now |
| 21:28.11 | ChipX86 | because distros can't keep their dbuses up to date |
| 21:29.32 | scanline | ~clobbertodeath the IRC protocol |
| 21:32.55 | CIA-temp966 | navi-misc: 03micah * r6859 10cia/LibCIA/IRC/Bots.py: |
| 21:32.56 | CIA-temp966 | navi-misc: Sequence bot connection such that the nick must be valid before the botNet |
| 21:32.56 | CIA-temp966 | navi-misc: counts that bot as fully connected. This was extra annoying due to nick changes |
| 21:32.56 | CIA-temp966 | navi-misc: in IRC being such a race-inducing pain in the arse. This still needs timeouts to |
| 21:32.56 | CIA-temp966 | navi-misc: ensure we don't get zombie bots when they can't find a better nick. |
| 21:36.07 | CIA-temp966 | navi-misc: 03micah * r6860 10cia/LibCIA/IRC/Bots.py: Clean up a little debuggative cruft, add a deadline for nick negotiation |
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| 21:38.23 | CIA-3 | ow |
| 21:38.31 | darth_mall | lol |
| 21:40.41 | ChipX86 | you should have a /me rubs CIA-3's tummy and have it *purr* |
| 21:40.47 | darth_mall | oooh |
| 21:40.55 | scanline | hehe |
| 21:40.56 | darth_mall | i like that |
| 21:42.31 | ChipX86 | this Lactaid milk rocks |
| 21:42.44 | ChipX86 | actual milk, but it's like taking a lactaid pill and then drinking milk |
| 21:42.47 | darth_mall | ChipX86: are you lactose intolerant? |
| 21:42.49 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 21:42.58 | darth_mall | huh, I never knew |
| 21:43.09 | ChipX86 | it's not a big deal. Lactaid pills are magic helpers |
| 21:43.17 | ChipX86 | but this lactaid milk they came out with is just so awesome |
| 21:43.23 | darth_mall | ChipX86: from now on you should introduce yourself like this: "Hi my name is ChipX86 (Christian), I'm lactose intolerant" |
| 21:43.28 | ChipX86 | :D |
| 21:43.33 | darth_mall | that way everyone knows |
| 21:43.38 | ChipX86 | yep |
| 21:43.49 | ChipX86 | oh no! |
| 21:43.54 | darth_mall | because it's vital to know |
| 21:44.27 | purple_cow | ? |
| 21:44.36 | ChipX86 | the libebook-1.0.pc is now libebook-1.2.pc |
| 21:44.48 | ChipX86 | I want to support both |
| 21:44.59 | CIA-3 | navi-misc: 03micah * r6861 10cia/LibCIA/IRC/Bots.py: Give CIA cat-like reflexes |
| 21:45.02 | CIA-3 | *purr* |
| 21:45.04 | ChipX86 | :D |
| 21:46.32 | scanline | holy cow |
| 21:46.34 | scanline | CIA-11 |
| 21:47.54 | darth_mall | scanline: there's coffee and room for one more up here ;) |
| 21:47.59 | ChipX86 | uh oh, "book"'s spelling now looks very wrong |
| 21:47.59 | scanline | :) |
| 21:55.39 | purple_cow | god damnit |
| 21:56.01 | purple_cow | somehow in his 2-lecture long keynote slides, he's managed to not include any examples whatsoever |
| 21:56.32 | scanline | you should wang him in the keyhole |
| 21:59.04 | scanline | hmm |
| 22:02.33 | TD | hmmm |
| 22:04.28 | purple_cow | time to use the *old technology* and make a flowchart for this stupid assignment |
| 22:05.15 | purple_cow | hmm |
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| 22:10.51 | kendra | scanline: are you there? |
| 22:11.03 | kendra | darth_mall: poke |
| 22:11.10 | scanline | yesyesyes? |
| 22:11.17 | darth_mall | kendra: moo? |
| 22:11.32 | kendra | scanline: hi! can i be rude and ask you a work question? |
| 22:11.37 | kendra | hi darth_mall |
| 22:11.38 | scanline | NO! |
| 22:11.39 | scanline | or.. sure |
| 22:11.43 | kendra | please? :-) |
| 22:11.46 | kendra | lol |
| 22:11.58 | kendra | what are the parameters to run the coil test script?\ |
| 22:12.27 | darth_mall | --run-right --do-not-suck --smoochu |
| 22:12.28 | kendra | aka, how do we run the coil test script? ;) |
| 22:12.33 | scanline | usage: coil_profiler.py [options] |
| 22:12.40 | scanline | :P |
| 22:12.41 | kendra | darth_mall: thanks, that's helpful :-P |
| 22:12.51 | darth_mall | the last one is the most important |
| 22:12.55 | scanline | kendra: if you run it with --help, it will tell you about the command line options |
| 22:13.01 | kendra | scanline: right, but how do we set the options? |
| 22:13.10 | scanline | kendra: on the command line :) |
| 22:13.22 | scanline | you'll want at least one of -x -y and -z to tell it which coil(s) to test |
| 22:13.41 | scanline | -n and -p set the negative and positive limits.. by default it tests the entire range |
| 22:14.00 | scanline | -0 sets the number of zero-current magnetometer readings to take |
| 22:14.05 | scanline | -t sets the number of total trials to run |
| 22:14.06 | kendra | ha, found it! |
| 22:14.38 | scanline | so, I realized a day or so ago that the computer in the lab there doesn't have the python modules set up right to use its serial port |
| 22:14.47 | kendra | on the nVALUE paramenter- is the default set to max or should we set it? |
| 22:14.49 | scanline | so I'll have to fix that, or we can run it on a linux laptop |
| 22:14.56 | kendra | it doesn't?? |
| 22:15.10 | scanline | the default is in brackets, [-4095] |
| 22:15.17 | kendra | so.... we can't use it, say, today to test the coil?? |
| 22:15.20 | kendra | ok |
| 22:15.22 | scanline | er, today? |
| 22:15.26 | scanline | you can use it fine with the rcpod |
| 22:15.35 | scanline | but it needs that extra module to run critical mode stuffs |
| 22:15.37 | kendra | yep- i'm in the lab, trying to test the coil ;) |
| 22:15.42 | scanline | ahh |
| 22:15.44 | kendra | oh, ok |
| 22:15.49 | scanline | so this isn't the critical mode test |
| 22:15.50 | scanline | ok |
| 22:16.05 | kendra | we're not doing the crit mode stuff until next week |
| 22:16.24 | scanline | yeah. I've been procrastinating porting over the mnet_tools stuff, but I'll definitely do that this weekend |
| 22:16.38 | kendra | right now we just want to run the y-coil through its paces to make we reinstalled the connect correctly |
| 22:16.47 | scanline | how'd that go? |
| 22:16.48 | kendra | bad micah ;-) |
| 22:16.50 | scanline | sounded like lotsa fun :P |
| 22:16.56 | kendra | yep |
| 22:17.10 | kendra | knowing how to use the script will make it MUCH easier |
| 22:17.31 | darth_mall | pff |
| 22:17.32 | kendra | ok, cool |
| 22:17.35 | darth_mall | you and your 'easier' |
| 22:17.39 | slimspace | yay, fyre 0.9 has a working ebuild |
| 22:17.44 | scanline | slimspace: where? |
| 22:17.52 | slimspace | scanline: on my harddrive at the moment. |
| 22:17.57 | scanline | kendra: sure thing. let me know if you need anything else |
| 22:17.59 | scanline | slimspace: neato |
| 22:18.09 | scanline | slimspace: commit it to contrib also :) |
| 22:18.16 | purple_cow | slimspace: there's already a bug requesting it |
| 22:18.18 | darth_mall | slimspace: wanna do an ebuild for x-g? ;) |
| 22:18.27 | slimspace | purple_cow: I know. I'm going to add to it |
| 22:18.32 | purple_cow | cool |
| 22:18.33 | scanline | cool |
| 22:18.40 | slimspace | darth_mall: sure. Got a package link? |
| 22:18.49 | purple_cow | flapjack.navi.cx/releases/xchat-gnome :) |
| 22:19.01 | slimspace | nice, I'll start that in a sec |
| 22:19.06 | scanline | =D |
| 22:19.16 | darth_mall | slimspace: =D |
| 22:19.49 | slimspace | scanline: I had to make a patch for data/Makefile.am to prevent it from updating the mime database too soon, but I'll include that. |
| 22:19.50 | lurgy | eek! it's kendra! |
| 22:20.01 | purple_cow | slimspace: should probably wait to submit the xchat-gnome ebuild to gentoo until at least 0.3 ;) |
| 22:20.18 | kendra | hi lurgy! |
| 22:20.22 | purple_cow | but we could maybe setup a gensync overlay thingy for it |
| 22:20.24 | slimspace | purple_cow: alright, I'll just leave it in the contrib then |
| 22:21.31 | scanline | xchat-gnome has a contrib directory? |
| 22:22.07 | slimspace | sounds good to me |
| 22:22.17 | scanline | slimspace: http://navi.cx/svn/misc/branches/fyre-1.0/contrib/ |
| 22:22.21 | scanline | that's where the fyre ebuild should go :) |
| 22:22.33 | slimspace | yup, I know. Almost ready to get it there too |
| 22:22.38 | scanline | yay |
| 22:22.51 | scanline | it points to the release tarballs on flapjack? |
| 22:23.17 | TD | ho hum |
| 22:23.24 | slimspace | presently, yes |
| 22:23.25 | TD | anybody know what ELF weak aliases are for? |
| 22:23.25 | gonkulator | wheeee |
| 22:23.29 | TD | kergoth`bbl: dammit |
| 22:23.33 | TD | be back so i can question you |
| 22:23.37 | gonkulator | howdy slimspace |
| 22:23.40 | scanline | slimspace: that's a good place for it to point. flapjack has lotsa bandwidth |
| 22:23.40 | slimspace | hi gonkulator |
| 22:23.48 | slimspace | I figured so |
| 22:24.11 | slimspace | we have nice use flags too |
| 22:24.18 | lurgy | morning gonkulator |
| 22:24.21 | slimspace | binreloc binreloc-threads gnet and exr |
| 22:24.24 | gonkulator | yay lurgy |
| 22:24.33 | gonkulator | lurgy: I was playing balderdash last night |
| 22:24.37 | lurgy | gonkulator: yay |
| 22:24.56 | lurgy | gonkulator: time at seminaries should be spent playing balderdash :P |
| 22:24.56 | scanline | slimspace: =D |
| 22:25.00 | lurgy | ;) |
| 22:25.00 | gonkulator | lurgy: and one of the definitions I wrote was "A russian dog that has a bushy uni-brow and a tail that only wags to the left" |
| 22:25.09 | lurgy | heh |
| 22:25.13 | lurgy | did many people vote for it? :) |
| 22:25.18 | gonkulator | the poor guy reading it couldn't make it through :) |
| 22:25.37 | gonkulator | nope, no votes, but it was the last turn and my brother and I had already lost |
| 22:25.42 | lurgy | hehe |
| 22:25.43 | slimspace | scanline: is there any particular version of gnet or openexr we need? |
| 22:25.43 | lurgy | aw |
| 22:25.45 | scanline | purple_cow: you can be crummy use case A, and I'll be use case 1 |
| 22:25.57 | purple_cow | :) |
| 22:26.05 | scanline | slimspace: there probably is, but I don't know what |
| 22:26.16 | slimspace | ah, ok. I've just got it in the deps without a version. |
| 22:26.20 | purple_cow | openexr works with both 1.0 and 1.2 |
| 22:26.22 | scanline | slimspace: there hasn't been a release of either in quite some time so you could just set it up to depend on the latest |
| 22:26.24 | purple_cow | gnet needs 2+ |
| 22:27.02 | purple_cow | slimspace: i'd reccomend an "openexr" and a "cluster" USE flag |
| 22:27.26 | slimspace | I could do that. Presently I've got "exr" and "gnet" as the flags |
| 22:28.02 | scanline | slimspace: "cluster" is just a more intuitive name, since most people know that they want clustering but dont' necessarily care about gnet itself |
| 22:28.09 | slimspace | right |
| 22:28.18 | scanline | more coffee! |
| 22:30.36 | slimspace | scanline: shall I commit the ebuild and the patch, or the whole media-gfx/fyre portage directory into contrib? |
| 22:30.42 | gonkulator | w00t |
| 22:30.49 | purple_cow | patch? |
| 22:31.26 | slimspace | purple_cow: yeah, I had to patch data/Makefile.am to pull out install-data-hooks. It was giving lots of access denied errors when it tried to update the mime database itself during install. |
| 22:31.45 | scanline | hmm |
| 22:32.24 | purple_cow | slimspace: uhh. hmm. |
| 22:32.35 | purple_cow | we need to call those install-data-hooks for things to work properly =/ |
| 22:33.01 | slimspace | purple_cow: I know. I moved that stuff into the pkg_postinst() in the ebuild. |
| 22:33.13 | purple_cow | ah |
| 22:33.27 | purple_cow | yeah, i guess that makes sense to keep as a patch in portage |
| 22:33.49 | slimspace | yeah. I didn't see any reason to make a change to the source itself, since it works outside of portage just fine. |
| 22:34.57 | scanline | sounds like you might as well commit that to something like fyre-1.0/contrib/portage/media-gfx/fyre? |
| 22:35.28 | slimspace | sounds good to me |
| 22:36.30 | CIA-3 | navi-misc: 03darkstar62 07fyre-1.0 * r6862 10/contrib/portage/ (8 files in 4 dirs): Yay, fyre 0.9 has ebuilds! |
| 22:36.44 | scanline | =) |
| 22:37.15 | slimspace | now to post to bugs.gentoo.org |
| 22:39.46 | scanline | hmm |
| 22:39.50 | scanline | DESCRIPTION="Gyre provides a rendering of the Peter de Jong map." |
| 22:39.51 | scanline | :) |
| 22:39.56 | slimspace | hehe, oops |
| 22:40.28 | darth_mall | silly slimspace and his typos |
| 22:40.46 | CIA-3 | navi-misc: 03darkstar62 07fyre-1.0 * r6863 10/contrib/portage/media-gfx/fyre/fyre-0.9.ebuild: Oops, silly typos... |
| 22:41.27 | scanline | slimspace: cool, it installs the init script :) |
| 22:41.36 | slimspace | yup |
| 22:42.23 | scanline | that will be better once 1.0 is released... 0.9 can't save its own pidfile, so start-stop-daemon saves the pid of the initial fyre process not the daemon it forks off |
| 22:43.07 | scanline | also I think with 0.9 fyre will run as root, whereas in 1.0 it automatically drops privileges to nobody |
| 22:46.52 | scanline | slimspace: hm. yeah, 0.9's init script is a little broke- it also uses /usr/local/bin/fyre |
| 22:47.09 | purple_cow | ooh, new ipw2200 |
| 22:47.11 | scanline | slimspace: if you're so inclined, it would be nice to have that patched to change users to 'nobody' and run /usr/bin/fyre |
| 22:48.59 | slimspace | hmm...ok, we can do that |
| 22:49.04 | slimspace | lemme look at it... |
| 22:49.31 | scanline | k |
| 22:52.54 | TD | hmmm |
| 22:53.15 | CIA-3 | spacegrant: 03dowty * r946 10mck/utils/micronet/ (16 files in 2 dirs): Initial import of the utilities from mnet_tools. None of these work yet. |
| 22:54.14 | purple_cow | time for a great movie |
| 22:54.45 | scanline | TD: elf magic |
| 22:55.32 | darth_mall | purple_cow: what're you watchin'? |
| 22:55.50 | scanline | purple_cow: give you three guesses, all of them with david bowie |
| 22:55.53 | scanline | er |
| 22:55.57 | scanline | s/purple_cow/darth_mall/ |
| 22:56.54 | TD | scanline: it's a mystery |
| 22:56.59 | scanline | so sad that Python doesn't look for .pth files in the current directory |
| 22:57.02 | TD | what's even more mysterious is the way open does not obey the standard scoping rules |
| 22:57.02 | purple_cow | darth_mall: i'll give you a hint. it's got david bowie, jennifer connely and jim henson |
| 22:57.05 | scanline | I mean, I know it's for a good reason.. but so sad |
| 22:57.05 | TD | or indeed close, write, etc |
| 22:58.37 | ChipX86 | yay Jamie call |
| 22:58.52 | scanline | yay wet dog |
| 22:58.57 | ChipX86 | she is not! |
| 22:59.01 | scanline | not Jamie |
| 22:59.04 | ChipX86 | :) |
| 22:59.05 | purple_cow | yay great soundtrack |
| 22:59.26 | scanline | I mean, it's a single movie that has david bowie, a great soundtrack, *and* a wet dog |
| 22:59.29 | scanline | what more could you ask for? |
| 22:59.41 | darth_mall | muppets, which it has |
| 22:59.53 | darth_mall | and a hot, female lead, which it also has |
| 22:59.59 | purple_cow | :) |
| 23:00.03 | darth_mall | and a hot, male lead; which, again, it has |
| 23:00.09 | scanline | mwahahaa |
| 23:00.12 | scanline | 30480 micah 18 0 127m 127m 1240 R 51.0 14.4 1:39.51 python |
| 23:00.12 | scanline | 25468 jupiter 9 0 29588 28m 1840 S 0.0 3.3 0:42.90 ctrlproxy |
| 23:00.12 | scanline | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:00.19 | purple_cow | rofl |
| 23:01.37 | scanline | lurgy needs a hat like that |
| 23:02.09 | ChipX86 | yay, new kernel booteth |
| 23:02.29 | ChipX86 | yay |
| 23:03.01 | CIA-3 | spacegrant: 03dowty * r947 10mck/utils/micronet/test/: |
| 23:03.01 | CIA-3 | spacegrant: On second thought, remove the old micronet tests. The more useful parts of this |
| 23:03.01 | CIA-3 | spacegrant: have already been ported to the new unit testing package, and the rest of it is |
| 23:03.01 | CIA-3 | spacegrant: awfully hard to set up. If your really have the patience to wire up the original |
| 23:03.01 | CIA-3 | spacegrant: test rig, this will still be in tags. |
| 23:03.23 | scanline | ooh, up to 220MB resident |
| 23:03.36 | file[laptop] | ChipX86: what did you break today? |
| 23:04.04 | ChipX86 | nothing yet |
| 23:04.08 | file[laptop] | _yet_ |
| 23:05.37 | CIA-3 | navi-misc: 03darkstar62 07fyre-1.0 * r6864 10/contrib/portage/media-gfx/fyre/ (files/fyre-0.9-initscript.diff fyre-0.9.ebuild): Pathes in the ebuild to allow for the initscripts to drop to user nobody, and to actually run the program from the right path |
| 23:05.57 | slimspace | damn, I guess I really can't type the word "patch" today |
| 23:06.04 | purple_cow | yay, there is he, looking beautiful |
| 23:06.15 | CIA-3 | navi-misc: 03micah * r6865 10python/memprof/ (. memprof.py plot-all.py types/): |
| 23:06.15 | CIA-3 | navi-misc: Adding a simple Python memory profiler I've been using to debug CIA. It comes in four parts: |
| 23:06.15 | CIA-3 | navi-misc: * An instrumentation module that collects data from the garbage collector and writes a log file |
| 23:06.15 | CIA-3 | navi-misc: * The same module, when run, will split that log file into several small logs sorted by data type |
| 23:06.15 | CIA-3 | navi-misc: * A script that plots these small logs using gnuplot |
| 23:06.16 | CIA-3 | navi-misc: * A spiffy log viewer that looks suspiciously like "eog types/*.png" |
| 23:06.23 | darth_mall | purple_cow: have you tried summoning him ever? |
| 23:06.30 | purple_cow | darth_mall: yes :( |
| 23:12.20 | purple_cow | yay, i think i'm just about done with the first use case :P |
| 23:12.45 | slimspace | cool, ebuild posted to bugs.gentoo.org |
| 23:12.46 | CIA-3 | navi-misc: 03micah * r6866 10python/memprof/memprof.py: This might run faster if it used a finite amount of RAM |
| 23:13.02 | scanline | yay, ebuild |
| 23:17.43 | scanline | yay david bowie |
| 23:17.49 | scanline | and muppets! |
| 23:22.33 | lurgy | ugh |
| 23:22.39 | lurgy | why are there ebuilds for magazines |
| 23:22.42 | purple_cow | yay! helping hands! |
| 23:22.57 | scanline | magazines? |
| 23:23.22 | lurgy | app-doc/phrack |
| 23:23.47 | lurgy | and linux-gazette |
| 23:23.55 | purple_cow | lurgy: uhhuh, those have been there for quite some time |
| 23:24.19 | lurgy | purple_cow: then that's even worse |
| 23:24.21 | scanline | seems like if there was a more efficient method for updating, and maybe if the ebuilds were compressed, less people would complain :P |
| 23:24.27 | lurgy | yes! |
| 23:25.00 | scanline | so portage always has a revision number, and you ask the server for diffs between your current revision and the latest |
| 23:25.01 | lurgy | i'd be plenty happy if they just split portage into more than one tree |
| 23:25.17 | purple_cow | scanline: well, it does use rsync :P |
| 23:25.24 | lurgy | a base tree for system stuff, a kde tree, a gnome tree, a server stuff tree.. |
| 23:25.29 | lurgy | and a tree for USELESS CRAP |
| 23:25.34 | purple_cow | lurgy: that'd be nice :) |
| 23:25.37 | lurgy | and it would be capitalized like that too |
| 23:25.38 | scanline | purple_cow: right, but rsync still has to keep a lot of per-file information. This would just be a single number for the whole tree |
| 23:26.57 | lurgy | mostly i just don't see why i need to keep 200M worth of tiny files in /usr/portage, when i'll only ever really use maybe 30M worth of that |
| 23:27.11 | lurgy | since there are entire categories i'll never touch |
| 23:27.44 | scanline | IMHO the best thing about portage is its wide selection of packages, so complaining about that seems rather silly :P |
| 23:28.13 | lurgy | scanline: i'm not complaining about the availability of packages |
| 23:28.58 | lurgy | scanline: i'm complaining that gentoo wants to keep a massive catalog of every single one of them on every machine its installed on |
| 23:29.18 | lurgy | and as it gets larger |
| 23:29.23 | lurgy | it just seems progressively more silly to me |
| 23:31.49 | lurgy | my only complaint about the availability of packages is that it seems to be a higher priority for gentoo right now than i'd prefer relative to keeping existing packages up to date |
| 23:32.22 | scanline | yay, I found a memory unleak in CIA |
| 23:32.27 | purple_cow | ^^ |
| 23:32.27 | lurgy | yay |
| 23:34.29 | scanline | http://navi.cx/~micah/unleak.png |
| 23:34.53 | lurgy | hehe |
| 23:34.58 | scanline | lotsa tuples |
| 23:35.00 | purple_cow | darth_mall: it's so stimultating being your hat |
| 23:35.16 | TD | ah ha |
| 23:35.30 | TD | i hate how libc uses headers to rewrite code silently |
| 23:35.40 | TD | i also hate how OSS is basically undocumented |
| 23:36.10 | TD | or rather is documented |
| 23:36.12 | TD | but only by a pdf |
| 23:37.20 | scanline | oh no, pdf |
| 23:37.25 | purple_cow | OSS...open sound system? |
| 23:38.20 | lurgy | Oprah's Stinky Sewers! |
| 23:38.32 | TD | very useful |
| 23:38.35 | TD | it doesn't document error coes |
| 23:38.37 | TD | <sigh> |
| 23:40.20 | TD | -EINVAL |
| 23:40.27 | TD | the equivalent of E_FAIL i guess :) |
| 23:47.18 | scanline | oh no, lurgy's head doesn't come off! |
| 23:47.31 | lurgy | darn |
| 23:50.15 | ChipX86 | champagne tastes like crap |
| 23:50.22 | TD | i agree. drink orange juice instead. like me |
| 23:50.37 | ChipX86 | yeah, think I'm going to just do that |
| 23:50.45 | ChipX86 | I wanted to see if it was still as bad as I remember from my birthday |
| 23:50.56 | CIA-3 | galago: 03chipx86 * r1482 10eds-feed/ (ChangeLog configure.ac): Support both the newer EDS 1.2 and the older 1.0. |
| 23:51.10 | TD | YAY I FIXED AOSS |
| 23:51.11 | darth_mall | what's really tasty is rum and OJ |
| 23:51.33 | CIA-3 | spacegrant: 03dowty * r948 10mck/Makefile: Instead of scp'ing files onto the flight computer for "make flight-install", pipe a .tar.bz2 over ssh. This is loads faster when I'm on DSL and the flight computer is at work. |
| 23:51.39 | TD | well |
| 23:51.40 | TD | almost |
| 23:53.03 | darth_mall | ooh neat, that thing Scott sent me is here |
| 23:53.33 | darth_mall | and apparently my first name is now Walbert |
| 23:53.43 | purple_cow | darth_mall: hurray! |
| 23:54.55 | CIA-3 | spacegrant: 03dowty * r949 10mck/utils/micronet/ (mag_vect_search.py optimize.py): This piece of junk never worked |
| 23:54.59 | darth_mall | yay new cds |
