| 00:00.23 | purple_cow | pagefault: TCP sessions can last hours without connectivity if there are no packets being sent from either end |
| 00:00.36 | pagefault | hrm |
| 00:00.45 | pagefault | usually I get disconnected though |
| 00:01.40 | pagefault | yeah yeah |
| 00:04.54 | purple_cow | hmm |
| 00:07.48 | darth_mall | ooooooooh! I just had a idear |
| 00:09.37 | pagefault | RICHMOND, Virginia (AP) -- Virginia lawmakers dropped their droopy-pants bill Thursday after the whole thing became just too embarrassing. |
| 00:09.38 | pagefault | The bill, which would have slapped a $50 fine on people who wear their pants so low that their underwear is visible in "a lewd or indecent manner," passed the state House on Tuesday but was killed by a Senate committee in a unanimous vote |
| 00:09.39 | pagefault | haha |
| 00:10.28 | ChipX86 | hah |
| 00:11.41 | kergoth | hah |
| 00:14.34 | darth_mall | =\ |
| 00:17.42 | ChipX86 | nobody has combined turkey and yogurt yet |
| 00:20.36 | lurgy | yeah, but they have combined eggnog and yogurt, and that was bad enough =/ |
| 00:22.14 | darth_mall | what's that, chainog? |
| 00:22.15 | ChipX86 | http://www.news.com.au/story/0,10117,12202144-38198,00.html |
| 00:22.16 | darth_mall | ;) |
| 00:22.29 | lurgy | darth_mall: no, eggnog yogurt, much worse ^_^ |
| 00:22.48 | ChipX86 | hey, Boulder |
| 00:23.21 | lurgy | heey, ChipX86 |
| 00:23.49 | ChipX86 | no, the article |
| 00:25.01 | lurgy | hehe |
| 00:25.14 | lurgy | yeah, Boulder has a lot of ties to the aerospace industry and NASA |
| 00:25.23 | lurgy | and computer industries |
| 00:25.30 | lurgy | so there's a lot of that around here |
| 00:30.45 | kergoth | gah! |
| 00:30.50 | kergoth | downside to using urxvtc/urxvtd |
| 00:31.00 | kergoth | when the daemon dies, you lose ALL of your damn terminals :) |
| 00:33.17 | purple_cow | kergoth: i coulda told you that ;) |
| 00:33.23 | purple_cow | gnome-terminal works that way |
| 00:33.27 | kergoth | hehe |
| 00:33.37 | kergoth | yeah, shouldve exepcted it |
| 00:33.44 | kergoth | just was surprised when all of a sudden they vanished |
| 00:33.48 | kergoth | from all my workspaces |
| 00:35.24 | kergoth | Syncing svn://uclibc.org/trunk/uClibc |
| 00:35.24 | kergoth | Retrieving log information from 1 to 9843 |
| 00:35.25 | kergoth | whew |
| 00:37.38 | pagefault | argh |
| 00:37.50 | pagefault | ChipX86, did you ever get on the fly resolution changing working with the fgl drivers? |
| 00:37.58 | ChipX86 | never tried |
| 00:38.06 | purple_cow | got milk? then you're a human and must be killed! |
| 00:38.27 | kergoth | hehe |
| 00:42.17 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03evan * r6825 10xchat-gnome/fe-gnome/ (preferences_irc_page.c textgui.c): |
| 00:42.17 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: Change the GConfClientNotifyFunc's to match the definitions |
| 00:42.17 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: in the docs, but that didn't eliminate the error message. |
| 00:42.52 | pagefault | oh |
| 00:42.54 | pagefault | I have to disable DGA |
| 00:42.55 | pagefault | fun |
| 00:46.13 | lurgy | DGA! |
| 00:49.31 | purple_cow | scanline: coffee? :) |
| 00:50.32 | scanline | purple_cow: in a minute.. I'm digesting ;) |
| 00:50.58 | lurgy | lugnuts! |
| 00:52.13 | CIA-5 | opencombat: 03jeffm2501 * 10opencombat_P24/client/ (11 files in 3 dirs): make the menu system have it's own files and stuff |
| 00:53.31 | CIA-5 | OpenGameFramework: 03jeffm2501 * 10OGF/src/soundmanager.cpp: make sound manager compile |
| 00:56.31 | purple_cow | yay bender |
| 01:05.37 | kergoth | whee, svk still going |
| 01:05.43 | kergoth | takes a long time to mirror a repo with over 9500 revisiosn |
| 01:08.03 | CIA-5 | openembedded: 03kergoth 07 * r1.3197 10openembedded/ (3 files in 2 dirs): |
| 01:08.03 | CIA-5 | openembedded: Path variable updates: |
| 01:08.03 | CIA-5 | openembedded: * add base_prefix, base_bindir, base_libdir, and base_sbindir, for paths |
| 01:08.03 | CIA-5 | openembedded: that are always rooted at / (for things like /sbin/ldconfig). |
| 01:08.03 | CIA-5 | openembedded: * Rearrange the path bits in bitbake.conf to be a bit more comprehensible. |
| 01:08.04 | CIA-5 | openembedded: * Override more path variables in cross.bbclass and native.bbclass, so that |
| 01:08.06 | CIA-5 | openembedded: they can safely be overridden by the user. |
| 01:11.27 | kergoth | scanline, purple_cow: when one of you has a chance, can you add the bits so that cia notifications for the 'uclibc' project show up in #uclibc? |
| 01:12.44 | *** join/#tacobeam KeyserLaptop (~gazicm@user-0cej5mv.cable.mindspring.com) |
| 01:17.23 | kergoth | hmm |
| 01:17.53 | purple_cow | an even equally big monster! |
| 01:19.05 | *** join/#tacobeam samyb (~samy@212.76.79.243) |
| 01:19.44 | scanline | kergoth: k |
| 01:19.55 | kergoth | thanks |
| 01:25.57 | *** join/#tacobeam JeffM2501 (~jeffm@Patlabor221.active.supporter.pdpc) |
| 01:48.11 | *** join/#tacobeam pagefault (~pagefault@67.71.46.49) |
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| 02:01.34 | pagefault | yay |
| 02:01.44 | pagefault | finally have ubuntu working the way I want |
| 02:02.11 | file[laptop] | woot! |
| 02:02.40 | pagefault | took forever to get ati's crappy drivers working right |
| 02:04.21 | purple_cow | well, you see, it used to be milk, and well, time makes fools of us all |
| 02:04.33 | pagefault | haha |
| 02:08.31 | KeyserLaptop | sophie makes yogurt from milk |
| 02:08.42 | KeyserLaptop | (accidentally, by leaving a glass of milk out) |
| 02:08.53 | KeyserLaptop | and then yesterday I found a cup of yogurt she left out |
| 02:12.57 | purple_cow | stop hogging that healthy liver! |
| 02:13.21 | lurgy | yep |
| 02:14.58 | lurgy | hehe, shostakovich jazz suites are so cute |
| 02:15.17 | purple_cow | yay random musical numbers |
| 02:20.45 | lurgy | yay |
| 02:33.09 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r6826 10motion/amc_import.py: bit of a dirty dirty hack, but it's getting closer to working |
| 02:33.47 | ChipX86 | uh oh, my landline phone is ringing |
| 02:33.55 | ChipX86 | I should just unplug that thing. It has never not been a telemarketer |
| 02:34.36 | kergoth | TD has got me hooked on svk |
| 02:34.42 | ChipX86 | must try that |
| 02:34.50 | kergoth | i'm using it for all my svn work now, never use svn directly |
| 02:34.52 | kergoth | hehe |
| 02:35.02 | ChipX86 | so can you explain a bit what it can do htat svn can't? |
| 02:35.16 | kergoth | it lets you mirror the entire remote svn repo locally. |
| 02:35.22 | kergoth | so you can check things into and out of the local mirror |
| 02:35.26 | kergoth | do work offline. |
| 02:35.37 | ChipX86 | nice |
| 02:35.40 | kergoth | it does a star merge like arch for merges between the mirrors |
| 02:35.41 | ChipX86 | ok, so I need that |
| 02:35.47 | ChipX86 | star merge? |
| 02:35.50 | kergoth | if you check something into your mirror, it automatically goes upstream |
| 02:36.03 | kergoth | but you can 'svk cp' to branch off when you go offline |
| 02:36.07 | kergoth | its really quite nice |
| 02:36.17 | kergoth | ChipX86: the star merge enables it to know when a change has already been merged. |
| 02:36.24 | kergoth | ChipX86: so you dont have to be so careful about what revisions you merge |
| 02:36.30 | kergoth | _much_ easier than using svn's merging |
| 02:36.33 | kergoth | even for normal svn use |
| 02:36.54 | ChipX86 | very cool |
| 02:37.02 | kergoth | there are tutorials on its site that walks you through getting it rolling |
| 02:37.05 | scanline | sweet |
| 02:37.08 | kergoth | i did a mirror of uclibc's new svn repo earlier |
| 02:37.12 | kergoth | it has over 9500 revisions |
| 02:37.14 | kergoth | that took a long fucking time |
| 02:37.17 | kergoth | but .. :) |
| 02:37.19 | scanline | hehe |
| 02:37.35 | scanline | is it much slower than doing a dump/load? |
| 02:37.35 | kergoth | anyway, once the mirror is down, you just check into and out of it like normal |
| 02:37.44 | kergoth | it pdates from upstream automatically, and pushes up automaticalkly |
| 02:37.50 | kergoth | but when you want to go offline, or view logs, or.. you can |
| 02:38.08 | kergoth | havent messed with dump/load, couldnt say |
| 02:38.15 | kergoth | but its worth using svk just for the star merge and convenience alone |
| 02:39.17 | ChipX86 | stupid tree is still cross-compiling to the 100 or so targets.. |
| 02:45.35 | scanline | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:45.35 | scanline | 3 |
| 02:45.38 | scanline | bleh |
| 02:45.46 | ChipX86 | wo |
| 02:45.48 | ChipX86 | er, wow |
| 02:49.06 | kergoth | heh, its perl, and not as efficient as i'd like, but it gets the job done |
| 02:49.31 | purple_cow | urgh |
| 02:49.46 | purple_cow | i'm not sure there's a way to create a blender quaternion from a set of eulers =/ |
| 02:53.38 | scanline | I think TD[gone]'s running a big wine import or something on navi |
| 02:53.45 | scanline | I just noticed it when the NFS got a bit slow ;) |
| 02:54.40 | scanline | purple_cow: you can't rotate quaternions in blender? |
| 02:55.16 | purple_cow | aha, imagine that |
| 02:55.22 | purple_cow | you create a Euler object and then call toQuat |
| 03:09.21 | purple_cow | now stand back, i gotta practice my stabbin! |
| 03:12.28 | purple_cow | relax, mammal! |
| 03:34.32 | kergoth | hmm |
| 03:35.54 | purple_cow | i really need to get my parents to watch this show |
| 03:38.38 | pagefault | hah |
| 03:38.43 | pagefault | zsnes has a wikipedia entry |
| 03:39.25 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r6827 10motion/amc_import.py: work towards setting bone positions/rotations |
| 03:39.31 | purple_cow | hmm |
| 03:40.20 | kergoth | yay for portage developers asking _me_ about oe and bitbake instead of me having to push |
| 03:41.45 | purple_cow | :) |
| 03:42.30 | kergoth | its fun when one of them goes "hey wouldnt XYZ be nice?" and solar replies going hey, i think oe already has that |
| 03:42.34 | kergoth | hehe |
| 03:44.31 | kergoth | mm, nightiwsh |
| 03:44.33 | kergoth | nightwish, even |
| 03:51.34 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03jupiter 07fyre-1.0 * r6828 10/BUGS: ws |
| 03:51.50 | CIA-5 | openembedded: 03kergoth * r144 10bitbake-data/ (ChangeLog src/backend-sqlite3.c tests/check_bitbake_data.c): Start adding bits to rework the sqlite3 tables to facilitate being able to do scope resolution. |
| 03:52.24 | ChipX86 | Amanda: "This phone doesn't have a clip on it. I guess I'll just put you down my shirt." |
| 03:55.50 | ChipX86 | :/ |
| 03:56.26 | scanline | so I know now that it's dying because of a SIGKILL, and it isn't an out-of-memory, but I have no idea where the SIGKILL is coming from |
| 04:02.16 | pagefault | <Diablo-D3> speaking of which, whats the endian of the emulation in zsnes? |
| 04:02.21 | pagefault | <Diablo-D3> because my code outputs it as big endian |
| 04:02.28 | pagefault | <Diablo-D3> erm |
| 04:02.29 | pagefault | <Diablo-D3> isnt x86 big endian? |
| 04:02.29 | pagefault | <pagefault> no |
| 04:02.29 | pagefault | <pagefault> of course not |
| 04:02.39 | kergoth | hehe |
| 04:02.53 | purple_cow | hah |
| 04:03.04 | pagefault | he's writing opengl code for zsnes |
| 04:03.09 | pagefault | yet he doesn't even know what endian it uses |
| 04:03.11 | pagefault | how scary |
| 04:07.56 | darth_mall | uhoh... where'd lurgy go? |
| 04:08.01 | pagefault | <Diablo-D3> then my code outputs the stuff as little endian =P |
| 04:08.01 | pagefault | <Aerdan> most x86 machines are little-endian. |
| 04:08.01 | pagefault | <Diablo-D3> all x86 machines are little-endian |
| 04:08.07 | pagefault | oook |
| 04:08.44 | darth_mall | wow... what a tool |
| 04:08.54 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03micah 07fyre-1.0 * r6829 10/src/ (explorer-animation.c explorer-history.c): First cut at implementing the rest of the 'go' menu. With the current settings, it shows the 4 latest nodes, then 10 more nodes sampled linearly in time between now and the beginning of the history queue. |
| 04:09.24 | CIA-5 | openembedded: 03kergoth * r145 10bitbake-data/ (configure.ac doc/doxygen/Makefile.am): Unbork the doxygen doc generation bits. |
| 04:16.30 | laodamas | arf |
| 04:18.11 | CIA-5 | openembedded: 03kergoth * r146 10bitbake-data/ (. config/ doc/ doc/doxygen/ src/ tests/): Add svn:ignore bits. |
| 04:18.54 | scanline | >:) |
| 04:18.59 | pagefault | bleeding edge |
| 04:19.02 | scanline | yep |
| 04:19.20 | scanline | biggest changes in svn right now are a new quality metric and the 'go' menu |
| 04:19.30 | purple_cow | ah, to be young again. and also a robot |
| 04:19.38 | scanline | :) |
| 04:19.56 | pagefault | robots need booze |
| 04:20.08 | CIA-5 | openembedded: 03kergoth * r147 10bitbake-data/doc/ (Makefile.am test_scoped_lookups.sql): Add .sql which shows how we're doing scoped lookups w/ sqlite3, for tracking purposes. Add a maintainer-clean-local rule to doc/Makefile.am to remove Makefile.in in maintainer-clean. |
| 04:24.33 | pagefault | ok |
| 04:24.59 | purple_cow | sweet |
| 04:25.00 | purple_cow | http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Google_hosting |
| 04:25.33 | pagefault | GPedia |
| 04:25.33 | scanline | cool |
| 04:25.36 | scanline | hmm |
| 04:25.50 | purple_cow | hehe |
| 04:25.55 | purple_cow | paste buffer? |
| 04:26.07 | scanline | probably |
| 04:26.14 | scanline | ah, I bet it came from kergoth's commit message |
| 04:26.24 | scanline | then I accidentally manipulated it somehow mousewise |
| 04:27.11 | pagefault | To use this application with Netscape, you must use a 4.7x or 7.1 version. Download now. |
| 04:27.11 | pagefault | Please use the following error code when writing to Yahoo! Help. (Error Code: 12) |
| 04:27.11 | pagefault | gah |
| 04:28.28 | pagefault | whats up |
| 04:28.34 | file[laptop] | storm here! |
| 04:28.45 | pagefault | sucks |
| 04:28.48 | pagefault | hmm |
| 04:28.52 | pagefault | blah |
| 04:31.23 | pagefault | family guy |
| 04:31.33 | file[laptop] | pagefault: watching. |
| 04:31.51 | file[laptop] | pagefault: would you like to rake some of these leafs? |
| 04:31.56 | pagefault | not really |
| 04:32.03 | file[laptop] | blasphemy! |
| 04:32.22 | pagefault | I would rather like some chicken |
| 04:32.36 | file[laptop] | mmm chicken |
| 04:35.17 | file[laptop] | what did I find that I wanted to cook for lunch... |
| 04:35.36 | file[laptop] | ah yes, chicken fingers |
| 04:35.38 | pagefault | food |
| 04:35.55 | pagefault | which part of the chicken is the finger? |
| 04:36.03 | file[laptop] | pagefault: imaginary fingers! |
| 04:36.27 | file[laptop] | pagefault: calculate the horizontal asymtope as X approaches infinity |
| 04:36.37 | pagefault | 42? |
| 04:36.46 | file[laptop] | the answer is... 0! |
| 04:37.02 | pagefault | interesting |
| 04:38.07 | scanline | asymtope? is that an asymmetric isotope? |
| 04:38.18 | pagefault | hmm |
| 04:38.22 | file[laptop] | scanline: sure! |
| 04:38.31 | file[laptop] | scanline: it's whatever you want it to be |
| 04:38.40 | pagefault | firefox popup blocking bombared |
| 04:38.49 | pagefault | bombarded |
| 04:45.27 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03micah 07fyre-1.0 * r6830 10/src/explorer-history.c: whitespace |
| 04:48.44 | CIA-5 | openembedded: 03kergoth * r148 10bitbake-data/doc/test_scoped_lookups.sql: Rename some of the fields and tables in the scoped lookups .sql to improve clarity. |
| 04:51.05 | pagefault | haha |
| 04:51.11 | pagefault | I flintstones |
| 04:51.16 | pagefault | I laugh at that joke every time |
| 04:51.32 | scanline | owwwww |
| 04:51.35 | scanline | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:51.35 | scanline | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:51.35 | scanline | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:51.35 | scanline | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:51.35 | scanline | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:51.47 | purple_cow | ow |
| 04:54.40 | ChipX86 | http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/15043237/ |
| 04:55.26 | purple_cow | the planet's kerploding! |
| 04:55.31 | darth_mall | ChipX86: did you drawed that? |
| 04:55.36 | ChipX86 | Amanda did |
| 04:55.52 | darth_mall | nifty |
| 04:56.06 | ChipX86 | she decided she wanted to draw me again after the previous pic |
| 04:56.18 | darth_mall | have you doned anything fun with your tablet? |
| 04:56.30 | ChipX86 | not yet |
| 04:56.31 | purple_cow | crawling back to the big zapp like a bird on its belly |
| 04:56.33 | darth_mall | =\ |
| 04:57.32 | scanline | yay, it's a neat picture of chipX86 |
| 04:57.37 | darth_mall | ChipX86: you should draw me a perdy picture this weekend =D |
| 04:57.43 | ChipX86 | :D |
| 04:57.50 | file[laptop] | it's all, Chip like! |
| 04:58.34 | scanline | hmm |
| 05:00.12 | file[laptop] | goodnight everyon |
| 05:00.15 | file[laptop] | er everyone |
| 05:07.05 | purple_cow | we should go grocery shopping |
| 05:15.30 | darth_mall | oooh, it's a lurgy |
| 05:15.34 | darth_mall | I thought you'd gone to bed |
| 05:15.40 | ChipX86 | wow, 2.5 hour phone call with Amanda |
| 05:15.48 | darth_mall | ooooh, ChipX86 ;) |
| 05:15.59 | ChipX86 | whaT? :P |
| 05:16.05 | darth_mall | I dunno |
| 05:16.15 | darth_mall | just seemed like the thing to say |
| 05:16.22 | ChipX86 | ah |
| 05:16.24 | ChipX86 | lies! |
| 05:16.27 | ChipX86 | and yet, so true |
| 05:16.31 | darth_mall | ~cpr ChipX86 |
| 05:16.33 | jbot | ChipX86: <smoochu> :-* |
| 05:16.38 | darth_mall | take that |
| 05:16.44 | ChipX86 | Electric Storm is such a near fyre image |
| 05:16.50 | scanline | yep |
| 05:17.00 | ChipX86 | er, neat, not near |
| 05:17.08 | purple_cow | link? |
| 05:17.10 | darth_mall | moo? |
| 05:17.33 | ChipX86 | http://osiris.chipx86.com/fyre/electric_storm.png |
| 05:17.45 | purple_cow | ah yes |
| 05:17.59 | kergoth | neat |
| 05:18.22 | ChipX86 | :((( they're going to reboot osiris! Oh the horror! |
| 05:18.32 | kergoth | i wonder if ion supports a background.. itd be cool to set my terminals to partially translucent and see that through them |
| 05:18.54 | kergoth | course with all that white, this isnt a good example, but yeah |
| 05:18.57 | scanline | you dont' actually need to set the background for that on a lot of terminals |
| 05:19.05 | kergoth | thats true |
| 05:19.07 | kergoth | fake transparency |
| 05:20.10 | darth_mall | kergoth: I believe it's inheritPixmap: true |
| 05:20.27 | kergoth | eh, whats that app to reload the resources on the fly again |
| 05:20.30 | kergoth | i always forget hte name |
| 05:20.46 | kergoth | ah right, xrdb |
| 05:21.00 | darth_mall | also, you can create a symlink from XResources to XDefaults |
| 05:21.12 | darth_mall | XDefaults are read on start up for each app |
| 05:21.18 | darth_mall | that's what I do |
| 05:21.59 | kergoth | that only works if hte apps were linked with support for it |
| 05:22.04 | darth_mall | oh |
| 05:22.05 | kergoth | i've found that to not always be the case |
| 05:22.22 | kergoth | but yeah, creating hte symlink is generally a Good Thing |
| 05:22.26 | darth_mall | ^^ |
| 05:23.16 | kergoth | step right up! |
| 05:23.17 | lurgy | darth_mall: cheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeess |
| 05:23.17 | kergoth | march! |
| 05:23.21 | lurgy | :) |
| 05:23.31 | darth_mall | lurgy: I suppose a little |
| 05:24.03 | kergoth | all the pigs are all i love. i give you all that you want. |
| 05:24.10 | lurgy | yay little |
| 05:24.10 | kergoth | take the skin and peel it back.. now doesnt it make you feel better? |
| 05:24.28 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r6832 10bzedit/scripts/BZFlag/Zone.py: stub out the beginnings of a zone object |
| 05:25.41 | scanline | ooh, now you can have the death zone and the forbidden zone |
| 05:26.56 | purple_cow | yep |
| 05:26.57 | lurgy | darth_mall: ok, so git out here :) |
| 05:27.05 | darth_mall | pff |
| 05:27.07 | darth_mall | you and your git |
| 05:27.14 | lurgy | yep |
| 05:27.16 | scanline | chipX86: wow, lots of hosts on that reboot list |
| 05:28.11 | purple_cow | dan "king of listening" kuester |
| 05:30.19 | purple_cow | ooh, cool |
| 05:30.24 | purple_cow | revelation 0.4.0 |
| 05:31.07 | purple_cow | yay laptops |
| 05:31.29 | purple_cow | it's so cool to work from this position |
| 05:32.24 | purple_cow | mwahaha |
| 05:33.02 | *** topic/#tacobeam by purple_cow -> <scanline> Is it just my lap or is it hot in here? |
| 05:50.33 | ChipX86 | http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2-2005062919,00.html |
| 05:56.09 | scanline | ha |
| 06:00.52 | purple_cow | if we can hit that bullseye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. checkmate! |
| 06:10.29 | rioter | haha |
| 06:11.12 | kergoth | its always amusing when i go outside to the car wearing shorts, sandles, and an undershirt, walking by people in thick winter coats, while they look at me like i'm insane |
| 06:11.17 | kergoth | "hi, arent you cold?" |
| 06:11.22 | kergoth | "no, i'm from minnesota." |
| 06:11.23 | kergoth | "ohhhhh" |
| 06:11.37 | scanline | I got the same thing a couple years ago when I'd go out in sandals in a foot of snow |
| 06:11.40 | kergoth | hehe |
| 06:11.51 | kergoth | its refreshing. |
| 06:11.55 | kergoth | (the cold that is, not hte people) |
| 06:12.27 | scanline | my lap is so hot... |
| 06:24.57 | darth_mall | hmmmmmmm... |
| 06:24.59 | darth_mall | I should sleep |
| 06:32.19 | purple_cow | silly darth_mall, falling asleep to satie |
| 06:32.44 | darth_mall | I wouldn't need to if my door was thick enough to block sound from the living room |
| 06:38.47 | purple_cow | mwahahaha! |
| 07:59.34 | *** part/#tacobeam JeffM2501 (~jeffm@Patlabor221.active.supporter.pdpc) |
| 08:11.20 | ChipX86 | ok, so I have no idea how to get my sound card working with udev |
| 08:26.19 | ChipX86 | stupid sound |
| 08:29.08 | ChipX86 | why is my sound card in the hotplug blacklist, along with every other card... hrm |
| 08:29.18 | ChipX86 | might explain a few things |
| 08:40.29 | ChipX86 | cute. lspci claims my Audigy 2 is an unknown device |
| 08:53.21 | purple_cow | hmm, afaict, scanline's working on fyre, but he hasn't comitted in quite some time |
| 08:53.30 | ChipX86 | uh oh |
| 08:53.55 | scanline | >:) |
| 08:54.52 | ChipX86 | it makes me sad that /proc/asound/cards says "no soundcards" |
| 08:55.15 | purple_cow | :( |
| 08:55.21 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03micah 07fyre-1.0 * r6833 10/src/ (6 files): |
| 08:55.21 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: Some image rendering cleanups, working toward nicer thumbnails. This adds a |
| 08:55.21 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: handwritten compositer for adding checkerboards behind images. It works |
| 08:55.21 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: in-place, and should be faster. Cleaned up all the old checkerboard-using code, |
| 08:55.21 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: and cleaned up update regions in HistogramView |
| 08:55.24 | scanline | I forgot how complicated HistogramView is for what it does... |
| 08:55.40 | purple_cow | "pretty soon, earth is full of sunbeams, their rotting corpses heating our atmosphere" |
| 08:56.15 | scanline | yay for fyre having an image-fu.c |
| 08:57.34 | purple_cow | there's no safer profession than mining, especially when you're perched on a snowball whipping through space at a million miles an hour. woooo-oooo-oooh! safe! |
| 09:01.06 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r6834 10fyre/ (11 files in 2 dirs): adding these here was maybe a little premature :) |
| 09:02.12 | purple_cow | i love how futurama had al gore as a guest voice in multiple episodes :) |
| 09:02.16 | scanline | :) |
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| 09:29.55 | scanline | silly gdkpixbuf not including colorspace conversions |
| 09:53.46 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03micah 07fyre-1.0 * r6835 10/src/ (explorer-history.c histogram-imager.c image-fu.c image-fu.h): Add more image-processing-fu to put a thin frame around thumbnails and adjust the color levels on small thumbnails so they're more visible. |
| 09:56.42 | scanline | yay, it works |
| 09:56.44 | scanline | http://navi.cx/~micah/fyre-unfiled/fyre-history-menu.jpeg |
| 09:57.11 | nullpuppy | oooh, cool |
| 09:57.20 | nullpuppy | hmm, pax looks cool this year.... |
| 09:57.39 | nullpuppy | they're adding 36,000 square feet of ... room |
| 09:57.47 | nullpuppy | shouldn't be quite so.. crowded this year ;) |
| 10:09.29 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03micah 07fyre-1.0 * r6836 10/BUGS: Add some notes on the new quality metric's horrible slowness |
| 13:59.41 | *** join/#tacobeam Cae (~mschneide@Bloc-14.isc.tamu.edu) |
| 14:59.18 | Samy | Cae: What's up? |
| 15:00.36 | Cae | not much. |
| 15:00.50 | Cae | trying to decide what to get trip for valentines day. maybe katamari damacy. |
| 15:02.48 | Cae | rampant destruction in a hamster ball is fun |
| 15:03.15 | Cae | no flowers. no chocolate. no candy. dinner, certainly. hmm.. |
| 15:03.36 | Cae | aren't any particular movies or series that come to mind |
| 15:39.15 | lurgy | cae: no hamsterball! :) |
| 15:39.20 | lurgy | but yes |
| 15:39.30 | lurgy | what guy wouldn't love katamari damacy |
| 15:39.43 | lurgy | probably only a communist agent |
| 15:39.47 | lurgy | but then, this will be a good test for that |
| 15:41.19 | Cae | I've no idea what he's plotting to give me. not flowers. probably not candy. |
| 15:41.35 | Cae | something we're both addicted to..which leaves....video cards? |
| 15:41.44 | Cae | video games? computer games? |
| 15:42.00 | Cae | we already have all of law and order that's out.. |
| 15:42.06 | lurgy | homework! |
| 15:42.09 | lurgy | just what every girl wants! |
| 15:42.22 | Cae | maybe the baron von munchausen or however it's spelled |
| 16:11.38 | Cae | Several carried effigies of Bush, one of which, carrying a banner which read "I love war" was burned. |
| 16:11.44 | Cae | hm. I have to agree with Iran there. |
| 16:12.08 | Cae | heck, I'd be happy if someone shot him down like a rabid dog. I'd celebrate. |
| 16:12.37 | Cae | Of course, then Cheney would have a heart attack and die.. |
| 16:22.43 | darth_mall | silly lurgy |
| 16:22.46 | Cae | http://www.cnn.com/2005/EDUCATION/02/10/tracking.students.ap/index.html interesting. |
| 16:22.51 | pagefault | blah |
| 16:25.07 | Cae | http://www.cnn.com/2005/ALLPOLITICS/02/10/highschool.testing.ap/index.html we do not need more standardized testing. f u c k i n g a s s h o l e |
| 16:26.17 | Cae | arthur miller died. death of a salesman. hm. |
| 16:26.45 | darth_mall | s/stip/stop/ |
| 16:30.59 | Cae | I'm just lengthening my list of "why I hate bush and everything related to him" |
| 16:31.11 | darth_mall | right, it seems to stress you out |
| 16:31.20 | darth_mall | and why get stressed over something you can't control |
| 16:31.26 | darth_mall | ;) |
| 16:32.16 | kergoth | mental health is overrated |
| 16:32.16 | kergoth | and i really need a destroy mornings shirt |
| 16:32.41 | Cae | technically it's related to a group project for linguistics |
| 16:33.09 | Cae | we're doing a project on how gays and lesbians are perceived/treated [in this country] |
| 16:33.23 | Cae | as bush is a homophobe, he's an interesting study |
| 16:35.26 | Cae | some of the other groups are doing religion, children, education, etc |
| 16:36.00 | Cae | the requirements for being in each group are that you aren't against whatever group you're in. i.e. you aren't anti- whatever or homophobic, etc. |
| 16:36.10 | Cae | my prof got major brownie points for that |
| 16:53.29 | kergoth | blehhh |
| 16:53.35 | kergoth | boo work |
| 16:59.23 | darth_mall | hmmm... even though I've scaled my cpu down to 600 MHz it's jumping up to 792 every once in a while... |
| 17:09.45 | Cae | I'm bored. |
| 17:10.37 | darth_mall | Cae: me too |
| 17:11.25 | Cae | nothing to do.. |
| 17:11.57 | Cae | except note that I really want an artisan blacksmith.. |
| 17:12.17 | Cae | because then my characters can make armor for each other. |
| 17:14.58 | Cae | I mean, heck, I could create it all for my paladin for the next ten levels and put it in the bank, and so on |
| 17:16.33 | darth_mall | man, this semester really sucks |
| 17:19.51 | darth_mall | http://penny-arcade.com/view.php3?date=2005-02-09&res=l |
| 17:24.20 | Cae | I like the one after it..hehe |
| 17:24.30 | darth_mall | today's? yeah |
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| 17:27.09 | darth_mall | "Bernoulli was a famous probablist" according to my probability teacher |
| 17:27.28 | kergoth | probablist, huh |
| 17:27.42 | darth_mall | apparently |
| 17:27.51 | kergoth | you should become a probablist. |
| 17:28.21 | darth_mall | hell no |
| 17:28.30 | darth_mall | probability makes me want to go on a homicidal rampage |
| 17:31.02 | darth_mall | wow |
| 17:31.09 | darth_mall | wikipedia has 5 Bernoullis |
| 17:34.31 | CIA-5 | opencombat: 03jeffm2501 * 10opencombat_P24/ (8 files in 3 dirs): |
| 17:43.10 | Cae | yay fun laser printer |
| 17:43.32 | darth_mall | fling? |
| 17:43.52 | Cae | eh? |
| 17:44.38 | nullpuppy | yay |
| 17:45.11 | darth_mall | Cae: you're playing a paladin? |
| 17:45.21 | Cae | yes |
| 17:45.24 | Cae | and a druid |
| 17:45.25 | darth_mall | not an anti-paladin? |
| 17:45.28 | nullpuppy | in what? |
| 17:45.44 | Cae | paladin's level 24, druid's level 12. world of warcraft. |
| 17:45.48 | darth_mall | ohhhhhhhhh |
| 17:45.57 | Cae | hehe |
| 17:46.01 | darth_mall | I've never heard of a successful paladin in D&D |
| 17:46.07 | nullpuppy | hehe |
| 17:46.12 | darth_mall | the only paladin I knew was killed by our chaotic evil mage |
| 17:46.18 | Cae | aren't as much tanks as they should be in wow |
| 17:46.24 | nullpuppy | i've got a lvl 2 monk and a lvl 12 rogue in d&d right now :) |
| 17:46.30 | Cae | but that changes with higher level |
| 17:46.30 | darth_mall | yay rogue |
| 17:46.32 | nullpuppy | darth_mall: haha |
| 17:46.39 | Cae | where you get better healing spells and such |
| 17:46.50 | darth_mall | my best characters are always some sort of rogue class... bard, thief, assassin... |
| 17:47.00 | nullpuppy | hehe, cool |
| 17:47.09 | Cae | druid essentially is all of that. they're really nifty. |
| 17:47.15 | darth_mall | I also do well with casters |
| 17:47.27 | Cae | healer, res, rogue, nasty nasty attacker |
| 17:47.36 | Cae | because of the shapeshifting |
| 17:47.41 | nullpuppy | hehe |
| 17:47.50 | Cae | you go into bear form and your armor goes up like 300% |
| 17:47.56 | darth_mall | my cleric was something of an embarassment |
| 17:48.05 | darth_mall | my monk wasn't terrible, but still... |
| 17:48.12 | Cae | so even if you're wearing crap for armor, you still get good armor as a bear |
| 17:48.13 | nullpuppy | hehe |
| 17:48.15 | darth_mall | I don't think I've ever played a fighter |
| 17:48.20 | Cae | paladin's fun |
| 17:48.26 | Cae | you can fight, you can heal, etc. |
| 17:48.49 | Cae | the skills are good too. you can just wander around and mine, or skin, and make leather or metal armor, or be a tailor.. |
| 17:48.56 | Cae | or fish |
| 17:49.01 | nullpuppy | the last session was last saturday. our cleric got like.. and ultimate pearl of power.. he can recast upto 3 6th level spells iirc |
| 17:49.04 | darth_mall | you people and your MMORPGs |
| 17:49.15 | darth_mall | nullpuppy: wow |
| 17:49.19 | nullpuppy | yeah |
| 17:49.19 | Cae | this is the first I've played. and I'm addicted. |
| 17:49.43 | CIA-5 | winehq: 03Mike Hearn <mh@codeweavers.com> * 10/: Fix a few bugs in the font dialog |
| 17:49.51 | darth_mall | I've known too many people who got hooked |
| 17:49.54 | Cae | but it's fun... |
| 17:49.57 | nullpuppy | darth_mall: i got a 10ftx10ft Carpet of Flying, can carry 1600lbs at 30ft, or 800lbs at 40ft, and i'm a 3'8" gnome ;) |
| 17:50.07 | darth_mall | nullpuppy: rofl |
| 17:50.10 | darth_mall | nullpuppy: that's great |
| 17:50.14 | nullpuppy | yup :) |
| 17:50.17 | Cae | and I get a free warhorse at level 40 |
| 17:50.43 | Cae | warlocks and paladins get free mounts at 40. everyone else has to pay 90g, iirc |
| 17:50.47 | darth_mall | Cae: I'm sure it is fun, but I've already got a bunch of fun things that charge monthly fees |
| 17:50.54 | Cae | hehe |
| 17:59.16 | darth_mall | not to mention that I don't have time for things like that |
| 18:00.33 | Cae | hehe |
| 18:00.41 | Cae | excuses excuses |
| 18:02.46 | Cae | jbot: 1230-750 |
| 18:02.47 | jbot | 480 |
| 18:03.01 | Cae | hmm |
| 18:03.06 | Cae | jbot: 12.66-7.5 |
| 18:03.07 | jbot | 5.16 |
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| 18:04.27 | *** join/#tacobeam CIA-temp458 (~CIA@flapjack.navi.cx) |
| 18:20.20 | Cae | (after class) |
| 18:22.07 | pagefault | bah |
| 18:22.15 | pagefault | every since lokitorrent was shut down torrenspy is being flooded |
| 18:24.31 | Cae | eh. class. |
| 18:25.43 | darth_mall | blargh |
| 18:25.59 | *** join/#tacobeam JeffM2501 (~JeffM@Patlabor221.active.supporter.pdpc) |
| 18:26.06 | darth_mall | uhoh... it's JeffM2501 |
| 18:27.03 | JeffM2501 | sadly it is |
| 18:36.58 | *** join/#tacobeam purple_cow (~jupiter@128.138.74.40) |
| 18:38.16 | darth_mall | hey look, it's purple_cow |
| 18:39.03 | purple_cow | hey look, yeah |
| 18:40.08 | darth_mall | purple_cow: is scanline still asleep? |
| 18:41.52 | purple_cow | yep |
| 18:43.03 | darth_mall | booo |
| 19:10.02 | purple_cow | hehe |
| 19:10.02 | purple_cow | <SilvereX> http://lokitorrent.com/ |
| 19:10.02 | purple_cow | <SilvereX> eek |
| 19:10.02 | purple_cow | <Athon_Solo> np: Queen - Another One Bites The Dust |
| 19:16.31 | ChipX86 | hah. Walter and James were at work at 4 in the morning because they didn't realize it wasn't, like, 10 anymore |
| 19:18.31 | ToyKeeper | Hmm. Looks like godaddy doesn't do slave DNS if I host the master. :( |
| 19:18.39 | darth_mall | mmm... lunch |
| 19:18.48 | ToyKeeper | Now I need to keep looking for a registrar... |
| 19:20.03 | ToyKeeper | Preferably one which A) has good legal terms (I own the domain, not them), B) provides free slave DNS, C) supports locking, for applicable TLDs, and D) is relatively cheap. |
| 19:20.05 | ToyKeeper | Any ideas? :) |
| 19:21.25 | purple_cow | need coffee.... |
| 19:24.14 | scanline | coffee.... |
| 19:26.38 | ChipX86 | so let me get a general consensus on this.. |
| 19:27.17 | ChipX86 | if someone files a bug report saying that a spinbutton isn't updating the entry field when pressing the arrows, but it works for everybody else in the world, think I should just close it? |
| 19:28.23 | kergoth | heh, there's a reason most bug tracking systems have a "works for me" state |
| 19:28.28 | kergoth | its hard to fix a bug you cant reproduce |
| 19:30.48 | scanline | ToyKeeper: zoneedit's DNS hosting has worked for me |
| 19:31.22 | purple_cow | ChipX86: sounds like maybe they have a buggy gtk build? |
| 19:31.31 | ChipX86 | they installed a new gtk as well |
| 19:32.30 | scanline | chipX86: http://navi.cx/~micah/fyre-unfiled/fyre-history-menu.jpeg |
| 19:32.35 | scanline | got that working last night =D |
| 19:32.42 | ChipX86 | awesome :) |
| 19:32.49 | darth_mall | ChipX86: file it under "gremlins" and leave it at that |
| 19:33.29 | TD | ChipX86: nah |
| 19:33.37 | TD | ChipX86: leave it open. just say you can't reproduce it and leave it |
| 19:33.44 | TD | that way it'll show up on searches in case there is something weird going on |
| 19:34.53 | ChipX86 | I don't want it open. It's on my plate then :PO |
| 19:39.07 | TD | heh |
| 19:42.05 | ChipX86 | today is going to be a sucky workday |
| 19:47.02 | ChipX86 | ooh, VMware is getting together a corporate ice hockey team |
| 19:47.48 | purple_cow | heh |
| 19:47.52 | darth_mall | moo? |
| 19:47.56 | darth_mall | ChipX86: you should play |
| 19:50.41 | scanline | purple_cow: all of those except the new quality metric were in 0.9 too, we just didn't find them |
| 19:51.43 | TD | lol |
| 19:51.44 | TD | ChipX86: nice |
| 19:51.52 | purple_cow | hehe |
| 19:52.57 | ChipX86 | there is nothing more frustrating than having bugs like the ones I have |
| 19:53.15 | scanline | sure there is |
| 19:53.21 | ChipX86 | ok, there is |
| 19:53.24 | ChipX86 | but this is frustrating :P |
| 19:53.25 | scanline | having even more bugs like that, and a rabid monkey on your lap |
| 19:53.30 | ChipX86 | named George |
| 19:53.34 | scanline | well of course |
| 19:53.42 | ChipX86 | huh. My source tree is 31GB |
| 19:54.07 | scanline | must be gtk's fault |
| 19:54.07 | darth_mall | it could be better too |
| 19:54.15 | darth_mall | you could have fewer bugs and scanline on your lap |
| 19:54.46 | scanline | hehe |
| 19:54.49 | scanline | WriteRegStr: HKCR\pngfile\shell\Open in Fyre\command\=$INSTDIR\lib\fyre.exe --chdir "$INSTDIR" -i "%1" |
| 19:54.55 | kergoth`food | hrm. |
| 19:55.16 | kergoth`food | so, a friend of mine who owns a company in MN is willing to hire me |
| 19:55.20 | kergoth`food | just offered it to me |
| 19:55.45 | samyb | What line of work? |
| 19:56.29 | kergoth`food | microcontroller programming on new and existing products, design of the software for new product designs, a variety of things in that regard |
| 19:56.40 | kergoth`food | atmel, mostly avr |
| 19:56.53 | samyb | Sounds like fun. |
| 19:57.14 | kergoth`food | yeah, i'm thinking about it. the thing with me is, i cant just be a code monkey. i need design and architecting to keep me interested |
| 19:57.26 | kergoth`food | if i'm involved in the design of the new products, thatd probably be enough to keep me motivated |
| 20:01.31 | scanline | haha |
| 20:01.33 | scanline | http://flapjack.navi.cx/monitor/system/cpu-week.gif |
| 20:02.32 | purple_cow | hehe |
| 20:02.57 | darth_mall | monkeys! |
| 20:03.09 | darth_mall | scanline: you're missing the fun, Cx is sitting out on the desk next to DINO |
| 20:03.09 | scanline | hmm |
| 20:03.14 | scanline | darth_mall: holy fuck |
| 20:03.18 | scanline | darth_mall: why? |
| 20:03.19 | darth_mall | and the camera is spiting kendra |
| 20:03.26 | darth_mall | scanline: they had to solder some stuff |
| 20:03.30 | scanline | hehe |
| 20:03.31 | darth_mall | so they wrapped it up in plastic and took it out |
| 20:03.34 | scanline | craaaazy |
| 20:03.38 | darth_mall | it's kinda cute |
| 20:03.46 | scanline | so hm.. CIA looks like it's running, but there's nothing in #commits |
| 20:03.50 | darth_mall | the digital camera is busy outsmarting kendra |
| 20:04.26 | darth_mall | aw... she gave up |
| 20:04.53 | purple_cow | darth_mall: you should invite kendra/zak/etc for pizzamaking tonight |
| 20:05.02 | scanline | darth_mall: and invite me! |
| 20:05.07 | darth_mall | scanline: no, you can't come |
| 20:05.08 | purple_cow | and scanline too |
| 20:05.11 | scanline | yay |
| 20:05.18 | darth_mall | purple_cow: no, he's not allowed, remember? |
| 20:05.26 | darth_mall | after the last time we forbid him to ever come over again |
| 20:05.46 | purple_cow | :( |
| 20:07.15 | purple_cow | hehe, fyre's rating jumped back up again |
| 20:07.19 | purple_cow | back to 9.27 :) |
| 20:08.03 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03micah 07fyre-1.0 * r6831 10/src/ (histogram-imager.c histogram-imager.h): Factor out some division into the precomputed color table. This makes the quality metric take about 20% CPU rather than 40% CPU on my 600x600 4x oversampled test image. |
| 20:08.15 | scanline | huh |
| 20:08.19 | scanline | so CIA is working here, but not in #commits |
| 20:08.24 | TD | ChipX86: ping |
| 20:08.26 | ChipX86 | pong |
| 20:08.34 | darth_mall | poing |
| 20:08.35 | TD | ChipX86: looks like qemu will not be competition for VMware anytime soon. |
| 20:08.37 | samyb | whahhhh |
| 20:08.43 | TD | fabrice has developed a kernel acceleration module that makes it go fast |
| 20:08.47 | TD | but he is going to charge for it |
| 20:08.49 | ChipX86 | heh |
| 20:08.49 | samyb | When is fyre-1.0 due? Did you guys get an icon out? |
| 20:08.57 | ChipX86 | well, VMware is moving more toward services than the technology |
| 20:09.03 | TD | services? |
| 20:09.06 | purple_cow | samyb: we have an icon, but it's not great |
| 20:09.10 | scanline | samyb: we've had an icon for a couple releases. Fyre 1.0 doesn't have a due date, but it's coming soon |
| 20:09.12 | ChipX86 | things you can do with VMs, rather than just run things in it |
| 20:09.25 | TD | interesting. like what? i'd have assumed there was limited potential there |
| 20:09.38 | ChipX86 | I'm not sure what I can and can't talk about |
| 20:09.46 | darth_mall | purple_cow: she says "maybe" under the condition that scanline remains upside down the entire time she's over |
| 20:09.50 | ChipX86 | but look into VMotion, for instance |
| 20:09.51 | purple_cow | scanline: well, it's a little undercontrastey |
| 20:09.53 | ChipX86 | and ACE |
| 20:09.57 | purple_cow | darth_mall: done |
| 20:10.12 | scanline | purple_cow: it sucks awful under win2k and below, but in XP and gtk it looks fine :) |
| 20:10.19 | ChipX86 | people keep telling us that we're all in big trouble because Xen is out and when Intel's new chipset comes out with VT, we're doomed |
| 20:10.37 | purple_cow | VT? |
| 20:10.39 | ChipX86 | but people misunderstand VT and Xen |
| 20:10.47 | ChipX86 | Virtualization Technology, or something |
| 20:10.47 | scanline | chipsets with virtual terminals? |
| 20:10.52 | TD | heh, no |
| 20:11.01 | TD | basically VMware has no real competition because of a quirk in the design of x86 |
| 20:11.07 | TD | it makes writing a virtualisation engine REALLY REALLY HARD |
| 20:11.09 | samyb | Xen is so far away from VMware. |
| 20:11.13 | darth_mall | I should go buy some form of beverage from the whatsit |
| 20:11.14 | ChipX86 | nod |
| 20:11.16 | TD | because x86 is not virtualisable, so you need to emulate the whole thing |
| 20:11.19 | ChipX86 | VT will make that part easier |
| 20:11.23 | TD | if x86 was fully virtualisable, it becomes less hard |
| 20:11.30 | TD | of course doing all the nice tools, the gui etc is still hard |
| 20:11.32 | ChipX86 | but VT doesn't give you virtualized IO or anything |
| 20:11.40 | scanline | blah. CIA is getting a ton of web traffic today |
| 20:11.42 | TD | yeah, exactly |
| 20:11.52 | TD | there's a million light years between an x86 emulator and vmware |
| 20:11.55 | TD | eg, qemu :) |
| 20:11.59 | ChipX86 | and it's not like Intel is tryin to compete with us. They work with us :) |
| 20:12.02 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 20:12.20 | purple_cow | heh |
| 20:12.21 | purple_cow | http://flapjack.navi.cx/webalizer/cia/usage_200502.html |
| 20:12.32 | purple_cow | scanline could make a respectable amount of money from a single ad :) |
| 20:12.38 | ChipX86 | VMware's a smart company. The CEO makes it very clear at every meeting that eventually, there will be more competition. They have plans for our company extending up to 10 years from now, at least, with various scenarios |
| 20:12.43 | samyb | Xen provides emulation at a kernel-level, it isn't something scalable (it maps pages to fixed regions of memory iirc, imagine having multiple Xen sessions on a machine). |
| 20:12.47 | scanline | purple_cow: most of thsoe are probably rss |
| 20:12.53 | ChipX86 | samyb: nod |
| 20:12.56 | scanline | but a huge portion of them aren't... |
| 20:12.57 | scanline | hmm |
| 20:12.58 | samyb | ChipX86: Cool. |
| 20:13.07 | ChipX86 | and I'm mostly tlaking because I don't want to fix this bug |
| 20:13.10 | samyb | Speaking of RSS, I wish I had more time |
| 20:13.13 | TD | also Xen requires OS modifications |
| 20:13.16 | TD | so it'll *never* be useful for me |
| 20:13.16 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 20:13.24 | scanline | purple_cow: might consider a google ad if the donation money runs out, but that shouldnt' happen for a while :) |
| 20:13.24 | ChipX86 | MS doesn't want to support Xen |
| 20:13.25 | TD | because i want to reveng win98 :) |
| 20:13.35 | ChipX86 | people have been saying that when the VT chips are out, Xen will work with Windows, but that's so far from true :) |
| 20:13.38 | samyb | Yeah, another issue :( |
| 20:13.45 | TD | lol |
| 20:13.50 | TD | so much misunderstanding in the world |
| 20:13.57 | TD | like the people that claim wine is obsolete because it emulates windows 98 |
| 20:13.59 | TD | <chuckle> |
| 20:14.00 | ChipX86 | hah yeah |
| 20:14.03 | scanline | hehe |
| 20:14.29 | scanline | TD: which windows is wine's emulation closest to these days? |
| 20:14.40 | samyb | XPDE |
| 20:14.53 | TD | internally it's got an NT architecture |
| 20:15.00 | TD | we report win98 to apps by default as they're less demanding then |
| 20:15.07 | scanline | ah |
| 20:15.11 | TD | eg they install dependencies themselves instead of expecting them to be there |
| 20:15.22 | TD | we implement various XP APIs as well though |
| 20:15.25 | scanline | makes sense |
| 20:15.28 | TD | it's not really any version of windows. it's all of them :) |
| 20:15.32 | scanline | :) |
| 20:16.06 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03jupiter 07fyre-1.0 * r6837 10/TODO: yay scanline |
| 20:16.31 | scanline | -* Undo/redo |
| 20:16.32 | scanline | hehe |
| 20:17.08 | pagefault | oh neato |
| 20:18.41 | scanline | it's not quite undo/redo, it took a form closer to a web browser's "go" menu |
| 20:18.46 | scanline | but it's basically the same idea |
| 20:19.17 | purple_cow | makes a little more sense than undo/redo in the context of a nearly-continuous parameter space ;) |
| 20:19.22 | scanline | yeah |
| 20:19.30 | scanline | and undo/redo might imply that it also saves your rendering results |
| 20:19.36 | scanline | whereas this just saves parameters and a thumbnail |
| 20:20.12 | scanline | huh |
| 20:20.14 | scanline | 2005/02/11 15:19 EST [-] 195.134.99.76 - - [11/Feb/2005:20:19:56 +0000] "GET /stats/author/pkst/.rss HTTP/1.1" 304 - "-" " GNOME CVS +http://planet.hellug.gr/gnomecvs/ Planet/1.0~pre1 +http://www.planetplanet.org UniversalFeedParser/3.3 +http://feedparser.org/" |
| 20:21.14 | scanline | it's a planet completely full of 'updated greek translation" commits |
| 20:21.23 | purple_cow | hehe |
| 20:21.43 | purple_cow | could be a coordination site for the .gr translators |
| 20:21.57 | purple_cow | hard to know since i don't speak greek |
| 20:24.01 | darth_mall | yes you do |
| 20:24.49 | scanline | hah |
| 20:24.50 | scanline | http://dev.gentoo.org/~cardoe/ |
| 20:24.54 | scanline | "Someone's crazy CVS stats" |
| 20:25.11 | purple_cow | :) |
| 20:25.48 | scanline | ooh. I'm up to 10th on google for "CIA" |
| 20:25.51 | TD | hehe |
| 20:26.00 | samyb | That's nice. |
| 20:26.15 | scanline | we 0wnzored "fyre" pretty quick on google |
| 20:26.22 | purple_cow | ooh, today's payday |
| 20:26.27 | darth_mall | 0wnz0r3d? |
| 20:26.27 | scanline | ooh, payday |
| 20:26.30 | darth_mall | yup |
| 20:26.40 | scanline | darth_mall: is slimspace there? |
| 20:26.48 | darth_mall | he's in class |
| 20:26.51 | scanline | ah |
| 20:26.52 | darth_mall | should be back in about 40 mins |
| 20:26.55 | darth_mall | por que? |
| 20:27.02 | slimspace | scanline: I'm in class |
| 20:27.06 | scanline | oh no! |
| 20:27.15 | scanline | just wondering if we needed to submit these abstracts together or what |
| 20:27.21 | purple_cow | mmm |
| 20:27.29 | slimspace | scanline: we probably should. I'm gonna work on mine after class |
| 20:27.32 | scanline | k |
| 20:27.51 | darth_mall | hmm.... |
| 20:28.14 | scanline | slimspace: I'll just commit mine later, and we can talk on IRC about the submission. I should be here pretty much all day except for my class at 4:00 |
| 20:28.15 | slimspace | scanline: you at SG now? |
| 20:28.20 | scanline | no, at home on IRC |
| 20:28.23 | scanline | :) |
| 20:28.25 | slimspace | ah |
| 20:28.34 | slimspace | ok, sounds good |
| 20:28.55 | slimspace | by commit, do you mean in svn? |
| 20:28.59 | scanline | http://cia.navi.cx/stats/project/navi-misc/ <-- this page is getting awfully messy |
| 20:29.01 | scanline | slimspace: yeah |
| 20:29.05 | darth_mall | so... we train dubbya on rocko and HostingGeek quotes... stick him in #xchat-gnome with some nick like x-gDev or something |
| 20:29.05 | slimspace | coo |
| 20:29.15 | scanline | darth_mall: haha |
| 20:29.28 | darth_mall | and maybe put something in the topic about addressing all questions to x-gDev, our new lead developer >=) |
| 20:29.39 | scanline | >:) |
| 20:29.48 | darth_mall | it would mostly be for HostingGeek and rocko |
| 20:29.53 | darth_mall | because that'd be fun |
| 20:30.31 | purple_cow | woo! |
| 20:30.36 | purple_cow | navi-misc is now 6 commits ahead of bzflag |
| 20:30.41 | scanline | hehe |
| 20:30.46 | purple_cow | next target: wine-hq |
| 20:31.27 | TD | lol |
| 20:31.31 | TD | never! :) |
| 20:31.36 | scanline | hah. most of my gallery entries on deviantart have no comments.. then there's kirby with two |
| 20:33.56 | scanline | we need a libfyre, for things like vmware and bzflag |
| 20:34.25 | darth_mall | what we should do is make everything a plugin for everything else |
| 20:34.34 | scanline | xchat-gnome needs to be a gaim plugin |
| 20:34.37 | darth_mall | and then assemble a distro based on this principle |
| 20:35.09 | darth_mall | and hack things like firefox to have links to our site |
| 20:36.40 | purple_cow | time for class |
| 20:37.19 | darth_mall | scanline: you're gonna come in for this meeting this afternoon? |
| 20:37.51 | scanline | no, going to that physics class instead |
| 20:39.43 | darth_mall | mk |
| 20:39.59 | ChipX86 | the netscape commercials suck |
| 20:40.33 | darth_mall | hrm... evo really hates me right now |
| 20:44.42 | darth_mall | what version of the evo data server is everyone running right now? |
| 20:46.24 | TD | grrr |
| 20:46.28 | TD | SF file downloads seems to be down |
| 20:47.00 | kergoth`food | hrm |
| 20:49.04 | ChipX86 | geeze |
| 20:49.08 | ChipX86 | Alex is heading to NYC tonight :P |
| 20:49.16 | ChipX86 | he sure likes to travel |
| 20:49.43 | CIA-5 | autopackage: 03mike * 10autopackage/main/ (ChangeLog makeinstaller): Always regen from .in, not only when newer. Fixes Inkscape nightly build system bug. |
| 20:51.06 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10admin/master-bans.txt: add 67.163.160.42 for cheats |
| 20:54.48 | ToyKeeper | So... what does CIA stand for? Check-In Announcer? |
| 20:54.58 | scanline | no |
| 20:55.52 | CIA-5 | spacegrant: 03evan * r936 10mck/PyMCK/Test/ (Util.py sgp4_dat2.py test_sgp4.py): |
| 20:55.52 | CIA-5 | spacegrant: Added a crap ton of more test cases. Changed the |
| 20:55.52 | CIA-5 | spacegrant: test with sig figs function to handle rounding a |
| 20:55.52 | CIA-5 | spacegrant: little better, but it's not quite working right... |
| 20:56.03 | darth_mall | ToyKeeper: Central Intelligence Agency |
| 20:56.05 | darth_mall | ;) |
| 20:57.38 | CIA-5 | spacegrant: 03evan * r937 10mck/PyMCK/Test/ (Util.py test_sgp4.py): Well... the test is better, but not great. |
| 20:58.20 | CIA-5 | spacegrant: 03evan * r938 10doc-misc/adcs/sgp4_test_cases.xls: Forgot to commit the spreadsheet. |
| 21:01.05 | scanline | ToyKeeper: it's explained on the web site |
| 21:11.50 | CIA-5 | spacegrant: 03evan * r939 10mck/PyMCK/Test/Util.py: |
| 21:11.51 | CIA-5 | spacegrant: Fixed the test function to (hopefully) account for |
| 21:11.51 | CIA-5 | spacegrant: miniscule rounding errors that don't concern us. |
| 21:13.27 | ToyKeeper | Heh. I looked on the site first... haven't found it yet. |
| 21:14.06 | scanline | http://cia.navi.cx/doc |
| 21:14.09 | darth_mall | moooo! |
| 21:14.10 | scanline | first item in "history" |
| 21:14.23 | slimspace | scanline: have you committed the abstract yet? |
| 21:14.26 | scanline | nyet |
| 21:14.30 | slimspace | mmk |
| 21:15.01 | darth_mall | commie bastard! |
| 21:16.29 | ToyKeeper | Eh, I was looking at cia's docs a few minutes ago, but now it seems to be... broken. |
| 21:17.03 | scanline | ToyKeeper: try a shift-reload. There seems to be a bug in mod_disk_cache or something that returns corrupted pages every so often :( |
| 21:17.52 | ToyKeeper | Weird. Launching a completely new browser (with no cache) didn't get the correct page, but a shift-reload did. |
| 21:18.09 | scanline | right. the bad cache entry was server-side, not in your browser |
| 21:18.39 | scanline | woo, sweet |
| 21:18.44 | scanline | I own "pig-o-matic" on google |
| 21:18.54 | ToyKeeper | Uh, congrats? :) |
| 21:19.50 | ToyKeeper | I seem to own "invader zim videos" on google. Hmm. |
| 21:20.38 | ToyKeeper | I wonder what other terms "feel lucky" for me. |
| 21:21.07 | TD | i own "internet explorer installer" |
| 21:21.07 | TD | or did |
| 21:21.11 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03micah * r6838 10cia/doc/metadata: Remove the references to port 3914, we run HTTPS on the standard port now. |
| 21:21.14 | TD | ah ha! take that redmond |
| 21:21.28 | kergoth | TD: you got me hooked on svk |
| 21:21.49 | scanline | pig-o-matic! |
| 21:21.52 | ToyKeeper | svk looks awesome, except for the zillion cpan deps. :) |
| 21:21.57 | TD | yay |
| 21:21.58 | kergoth | heh, indeed |
| 21:22.10 | kergoth | i love that checkins to the mirror automatically go up |
| 21:22.13 | TD | it's a little buggy in places |
| 21:22.15 | kergoth | dotn need to use svn itself at all |
| 21:22.20 | TD | but for an app of this complexity surprisingly solid |
| 21:22.33 | TD | i'm waiting for clkao to tell me how to magically remove the empty directories cvs created |
| 21:22.40 | kergoth | one thing i wish it did.. 'svn sync' .. if i run that inside of an svk working directory |
| 21:22.47 | kergoth | 'it should automaticlaly sync the associated mirror |
| 21:22.52 | kergoth | i shouldnt have to specify, it has that information |
| 21:23.41 | TD | you mean svk sync, right? |
| 21:23.45 | kergoth | right yeah |
| 21:23.55 | kergoth | it should work wtih no arguments when inside of an svk working directory |
| 21:24.08 | TD | suggest it to clkao or autrijus when they're awake :) |
| 21:24.12 | file[laptop] | airplane tickets for VON arrived today |
| 21:26.32 | TD | kergoth: spread the svk loving |
| 21:26.36 | kergoth | hehe |
| 21:26.37 | TD | most people are still stuck on arch |
| 21:26.38 | kergoth | i have been |
| 21:26.42 | TD | spiffy |
| 21:26.52 | kergoth | the part of me that loves bk doesnt really like that the working dir and mirror are independent |
| 21:26.57 | kergoth | but i'm getting used to it |
| 21:27.13 | TD | well you can check out a mirrored path directly |
| 21:27.20 | TD | then svk commit will commit to the mirrored path directly |
| 21:27.26 | TD | but that's not really any different to using regular svn i guess ... |
| 21:27.37 | kergoth | right |
| 21:27.54 | kergoth | with bk, there's no difference between a mirror and a working directory |
| 21:27.57 | kergoth | every tree is its own mirror |
| 21:28.24 | ToyKeeper | That can eliminate certain types of use, though. :( |
| 21:28.37 | kergoth | what do you mean? |
| 21:29.14 | TD | i've never played with bk but yeah, it sounds a bit simpler |
| 21:29.15 | ToyKeeper | IIRC, bk won't let you check out a partial repository, right? |
| 21:30.21 | scanline | that's the big thing that turned me off about arch |
| 21:30.54 | kergoth | ToyKeeper: right. unlike svn, you cant easily nest projects, have real structure in that way |
| 21:30.59 | TD | there are a lot of big things that turned me off arch |
| 21:31.04 | TD | even after i wrote patches for it and was a big supporter |
| 21:31.39 | ToyKeeper | I've got several projects which rely on partial checkouts... that was one of the main things I didn't like about arch and bk. |
| 21:32.25 | kergoth | i never really minded that |
| 21:32.27 | kergoth | got used to it |
| 21:32.29 | darth_mall | hmmm... looks like Lisa is being set up as a back-up team lead ^^ |
| 21:32.33 | ToyKeeper | I like almost everything else about bk, though. |
| 21:32.43 | scanline | darth_mall: :) |
| 21:32.53 | scanline | darth_mall: spacegrant can fire people right? ;) |
| 21:33.00 | darth_mall | heh |
| 21:33.04 | kergoth | ToyKeeper: the big disadvantage, in my opinion, due to having the working dir and mirror one and the same is performance. |
| 21:33.15 | kergoth | ToyKeeper: all that metadata _in_ your tree slows down operations a great deal |
| 21:33.43 | ToyKeeper | It speeds up some operations though. |
| 21:34.12 | kergoth | i'm getting used to the svk way of doing things, was just a conceptual difference to adapt to |
| 21:34.15 | kergoth | kinda like it now |
| 21:34.34 | kergoth | then you have the benefits and flexibility of svn, but you can go offline with it, and the best part, without any changes to the upstream repository |
| 21:34.41 | ToyKeeper | I've been meaning to contact some arch people to see if my approach to keeping /home and /etc in version control is possible in arch. |
| 21:35.35 | TD | it's possible |
| 21:35.40 | TD | i think a few of them tried it |
| 21:35.52 | ToyKeeper | TD: I'm doing some funky things with it. |
| 21:37.10 | kergoth | RA layer request failed: PROPFIND request failed on '/svn/misc/!svn/vcc/default': PROPFIND of '/svn/misc/!svn/vcc/default': 504 Gateway Timeout (http://navi.cx) at /usr/share/perl5/SVK/Command.pm line 141 |
| 21:37.15 | kergoth | heh |
| 21:37.17 | kergoth | keep getting odd timeouts trying to svk mirror cia |
| 21:37.37 | scanline | huh |
| 21:37.41 | TD | odd |
| 21:37.48 | kergoth | it'll go fine for a while |
| 21:37.50 | kergoth | then poof, stops |
| 21:37.53 | kergoth | then i kick it off again |
| 21:37.56 | kergoth | this is the third time now |
| 21:37.56 | kergoth | hehe |
| 21:38.08 | scanline | I don't see anything in apache's error log relevent to this |
| 21:38.11 | kergoth | eird |
| 21:38.13 | kergoth | weird, even |
| 21:38.17 | kergoth | maybe ti's network hates me or something |
| 21:38.22 | kergoth | woouldnt be the first time |
| 21:38.22 | scanline | could be |
| 21:38.24 | kergoth | bbiab, meetin |
| 21:38.28 | ToyKeeper | FWIW, http://z.xyzz.org/home-etc-req.txt describes the approach I'm using for /home and /etc. |
| 21:38.28 | scanline | does it work locally on navi? |
| 21:40.54 | scanline | what do windows users encode video with? |
| 21:41.20 | ToyKeeper | virtualdub? |
| 21:41.29 | scanline | heard of that. I'll have to try it later today |
| 21:41.40 | ToyKeeper | http://guide.zhentarim.net/ has lots of details. |
| 21:42.06 | scanline | damn that's a lot more complicated than encoding video under linux |
| 21:42.26 | ToyKeeper | They're rather, uh, anal. They make it more complicated than it needs to be. |
| 21:42.50 | ToyKeeper | But they've got good info on anime dvd ripping in windows. |
| 21:43.18 | scanline | still looks like a total pain in the arse compared to dvdrip or even a shell script and transcode :) |
| 21:44.06 | ToyKeeper | I haven't actually tried it... I could use a tool like "yatta" in linux though. Automatic inverse telecine never works quite right. |
| 21:46.46 | darth_mall | oooh no fair |
| 21:46.51 | darth_mall | Lisa gets to go to Social D |
| 21:49.58 | ChipX86 | yay, this sucks extremely! |
| 21:50.38 | ToyKeeper | ... brainless entity for keeping an eye on subversion. |
| 21:50.41 | ToyKeeper | Nice touch. :) |
| 21:52.06 | ChipX86 | noooo, not another bug |
| 21:52.20 | CIA-5 | spacegrant: 03maccarro * r940 10mck/ (PyMCK/Ground/Dialogs/MainWindow.py data/offdot.png): Quick change to the red dot used to indicate when a boolean state is off. It should just be a red dot, not one with an exclamation point. |
| 21:54.22 | scanline | slimspace: I have the original .xcf file for that dot, might look better if you generated one from that |
| 21:54.45 | slimspace | maybe, but I just gimped it and blotted out the exclamation point. |
| 21:54.56 | slimspace | looks fine, so far as I can tell |
| 21:54.58 | scanline | k |
| 21:55.11 | slimspace | maybe you should commit the xcf though |
| 21:55.19 | scanline | it's in CIA :) |
| 21:55.27 | slimspace | ah, I see |
| 21:55.51 | scanline | navi-misc/cia/media/file-icons.xcf.gz |
| 21:56.06 | slimspace | ah, cool |
| 21:56.35 | scanline | that xcf has a bunch of layers for the various colors and symbols |
| 21:57.41 | CIA-5 | spacegrant: 03dowty * r941 10doc-misc/symposium/integration-abstract: Hmm, somehow this got longer |
| 22:01.05 | ChipX86 | grr |
| 22:01.13 | ChipX86 | you know it's Joey's code if every single line has trailing whitespace.... |
| 22:01.38 | ToyKeeper | Wow. Converting bdb repos to fsfs ones reduced the disk use to 19% of what it was. |
| 22:02.33 | kergoth | hmmm. |
| 22:03.37 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03micah 07fyre-1.0 * r6839 10/src/explorer-history.c: Automagically record a history item if the 'go' menu is opened with no history items in the queue. This looks much nicer than showing a blank menu. |
| 22:05.34 | scanline | gah |
| 22:05.41 | scanline | I hate trying to debug an app that crashes while it has a menu up |
| 22:05.55 | scanline | so gdb stops it while it has the mouse grabbed |
| 22:05.59 | ChipX86 | ick |
| 22:06.03 | ChipX86 | that's painful |
| 22:06.08 | TD | i thought gtk didn't do that anymore |
| 22:06.19 | ChipX86 | it does. |
| 22:06.28 | scanline | I'm pretty sure every X widget toolkit that uses menus has to do that |
| 22:06.47 | scanline | what's the technical name for it.. override redirect? |
| 22:06.55 | scanline | been a while since I've touched xlib |
| 22:07.04 | ChipX86 | I call it playing grabby-mouse |
| 22:07.11 | darth_mall | oooh playing grabby-mouse |
| 22:07.19 | TD | a server grab |
| 22:07.30 | TD | override redirect is where you disconnect a window from the WM |
| 22:07.36 | scanline | ah, right |
| 22:07.42 | scanline | but that happens for menus too, right? |
| 22:07.46 | TD | i think so |
| 22:10.24 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03micah 07fyre-1.0 * r6840 10/src/explorer-history.c: Fix a crash when you open the 'go' menu with exactly four items in the history queue |
| 22:10.33 | ChipX86 | heh |
| 22:10.38 | kergoth | hrm |
| 22:10.40 | ChipX86 | you know what else would be neat? |
| 22:10.43 | scanline | hm? |
| 22:11.12 | ChipX86 | if when you started to click and drag, say, to modify A or D or B or something, it would save state, and then control-z would jump back to that state |
| 22:11.27 | scanline | alt-left isn't close enough to that? |
| 22:11.31 | ChipX86 | er, control-U or wait, what's undo? |
| 22:11.38 | ToyKeeper | Er, in the window manager, or within an app? |
| 22:11.44 | ToyKeeper | You can do that with sawfish. |
| 22:11.47 | ChipX86 | haven't tried alt-left |
| 22:11.52 | scanline | try alt-left :P |
| 22:11.56 | ChipX86 | in fact, my copy doesn't have your menu yet.. I've been too busy to update :( |
| 22:12.05 | ChipX86 | fighting this pain in the ass installer script |
| 22:12.13 | ChipX86 | you know that vmware-config.pl? |
| 22:12.28 | CIA-5 | spacegrant: 03evan * r942 10mck/PyMCK/Test/sgp4_dat2.py: Woo! Only one more function to do. |
| 22:12.55 | darth_mall | erm... I guess I have two |
| 22:15.00 | TD | heh |
| 22:15.01 | TD | yeah |
| 22:18.14 | ChipX86 | almost had it |
| 22:18.14 | CIA-5 | autopackage: 03mike * 10autopackage/main/ (ChangeLog doc/docbook.xml share/downloader.template): Add dummy debug functions to make the imported code happy, uncomment tracing in the copy/pasted testForLib. Why is it not being imported the standard way anyhow? |
| 22:18.23 | ChipX86 | at least vmware will soon get a .desktop file |
| 22:18.29 | ChipX86 | yay for a bug from 1999 |
| 22:18.36 | scanline | hah |
| 22:18.46 | scanline | I have a vmware .desktop file... probably something gentoo put there |
| 22:18.51 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 22:18.58 | ChipX86 | there's no official one. I'm making it |
| 22:19.07 | ChipX86 | plus official mimetype support and icons |
| 22:19.27 | TD | spiffy |
| 22:19.41 | kergoth | my boss says i should tell prospective employers to google for kergoth |
| 22:19.43 | kergoth | hah |
| 22:19.45 | ChipX86 | question is, can I take the base document icon that gnome uses and make an icon out of that? |
| 22:20.23 | TD | i think so |
| 22:20.25 | TD | ask jimmac |
| 22:20.44 | ChipX86 | bah, that requires that he be online :P |
| 22:20.48 | ChipX86 | oh well. I'll e-mail |
| 22:20.52 | TD | he is |
| 22:20.57 | ChipX86 | oh |
| 22:21.00 | TD | in #inkcape |
| 22:21.02 | TD | in #inkscape |
| 22:21.41 | ChipX86 | 1 day idle |
| 22:24.23 | scanline | grr, that's going to get on my nerves... it's restarting the calculation when loading a history node even if you only changed colors or exposures |
| 22:24.34 | scanline | same bug that makes it temporarily revert back to default size when loading history |
| 22:25.10 | ChipX86 | and we have a desktop icon. |
| 22:25.15 | ChipX86 | or desktop file rather |
| 22:25.17 | ChipX86 | with an icon |
| 22:25.30 | kergoth | hrm |
| 22:26.42 | kergoth | i should look into adapting the CIA codebase to facilitate acting as a -software release- notification system rather than commit |
| 22:26.51 | scanline | http://navi.cx/~micah/fyre-unfiled/escape.png |
| 22:26.51 | kergoth | would be really useful for distributions |
| 22:27.01 | scanline | kergoth: it should be really easy |
| 22:27.21 | ChipX86 | scanline: ooohhhh |
| 22:27.32 | ChipX86 | you have tricks you need to teach me |
| 22:27.33 | kergoth | could have a script that periodically pokes at freshmeat and sends notifications on that for projects that arent doing so directly |
| 22:27.36 | scanline | :) |
| 22:28.14 | kergoth | woo, getting a tuxscreen |
| 22:28.19 | TD | kergoth: you mean an IRC freshmeat? |
| 22:28.19 | ChipX86 | neat |
| 22:28.21 | ChipX86 | I want one |
| 22:28.26 | ChipX86 | I have no use for it, but still |
| 22:28.46 | kergoth | TD: pretty much. as a distribution maintainer, i'd find that very useful |
| 22:28.53 | kergoth | ChipX86: same |
| 22:28.59 | TD | i guess so |
| 22:29.07 | kergoth | ChipX86: i figure i'll end up teaching OE to target it, then itll collect dust and i'll never use it after that |
| 22:29.09 | ChipX86 | now to build an rpm |
| 22:29.10 | TD | is freshmeat email not enough? |
| 22:29.15 | ChipX86 | kergoth: heh :) |
| 22:29.21 | CIA-5 | spacegrant: 03evan * r943 10mck/PyMCK/Test/sgp4_dat2.py: Okay, this time I really do only have one more to do. |
| 22:29.40 | kergoth | TD: consider the # of packages in your average distribution. thats rather unweildy |
| 22:29.58 | kergoth | however thats spelled |
| 22:30.01 | TD | i guess |
| 22:30.12 | TD | unwieldy according to ispell |
| 22:30.19 | TD | spell checking in irc! genius |
| 22:30.20 | kergoth | there are 1,300 in OE alone, and it's pretty small, all things considered |
| 22:31.12 | TD | yeah |
| 22:31.27 | TD | too bad freshmeat isn't queryable by bots |
| 22:31.33 | kergoth | and freshmeat isnt definitive. i'd like to be able to script my own things |
| 22:31.35 | TD | then you could build a program that builds lists of versions and compares |
| 22:31.40 | kergoth | i.e a cron job that periodically pokes at a given ftp site |
| 22:31.46 | TD | too bad there's no automatic publishing format for project data, as well |
| 22:31.52 | scanline | hm |
| 22:31.54 | TD | maybe DOAP |
| 22:33.44 | file[laptop] | apparently I can walk into Service New Brunswick with my birth certificate, SIN/health card, and get government ID |
| 22:34.31 | ChipX86 | is fyre in portage? |
| 22:34.47 | ChipX86 | (someone's asking me) |
| 22:35.17 | scanline | not yet, AFAIK. would be cool if it was |
| 22:37.15 | TD | it'll have an autopackage soon hopefully |
| 22:38.12 | TD | huh? |
| 22:38.20 | TD | why did "svn up" delete loads of stuff in the fyre directory? |
| 22:38.27 | ChipX86 | because they moved it |
| 22:38.35 | ChipX86 | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:38.39 | TD | ah |
| 22:41.54 | TD | kergoth: i'm having the same problem with the navi svn repo hanging |
| 22:42.28 | TD | [mike@littlegreen fyre]$ svn switch http://navi.cx/svn/misc/branches/fyre-1.0 |
| 22:42.28 | TD | A AUTHORS |
| 22:42.28 | TD | A ChangeLog |
| 22:42.28 | TD | svn: Failed to add directory 'src': object of the same name already exists |
| 22:42.28 | TD | odd |
| 22:44.15 | TD | basically it's not happy about switching. hmm |
| 22:46.29 | *** join/#tacobeam pagefault (~pagefault@67.71.46.49) |
| 22:46.34 | pagefault | taco |
| 22:46.43 | file[laptop] | hey pagefault |
| 22:46.46 | pagefault | greetings file |
| 22:46.54 | file[laptop] | pagefault: you should come visit me at Pearson airport! |
| 22:47.10 | pagefault | hrm, I could, how long will you be there? |
| 22:47.21 | file[laptop] | lemme check |
| 22:47.51 | file[laptop] | arrive at 1:12PM and leave at 4PM |
| 22:48.01 | pagefault | fun |
| 22:48.10 | pagefault | the airport is very boring |
| 22:48.45 | file[laptop] | well I would welcome anything |
| 22:48.59 | pagefault | when is it? |
| 22:49.04 | file[laptop] | March 6th |
| 22:49.07 | file[laptop] | it's a Sunday |
| 22:49.19 | pagefault | oh cool |
| 22:49.27 | pagefault | yeah I could come out and we could hang out for a bit |
| 22:49.32 | ChipX86 | Liberty's Kids |
| 22:49.33 | file[laptop] | cool cool |
| 22:49.35 | ChipX86 | hrm. |
| 22:49.41 | ChipX86 | interesting cartoons these days |
| 22:50.18 | file[laptop] | timezones are fun |
| 22:50.36 | pagefault | yep |
| 22:50.47 | file[laptop] | Total duration: 8hr 56min (14hr 58min with connections) |
| 22:50.54 | pagefault | connections suck |
| 22:50.58 | file[laptop] | Total duration: 7hr 42min (16hr 41min with connections) |
| 22:51.35 | pagefault | which airline are you taking? |
| 22:51.42 | file[laptop] | Air Canada |
| 22:51.58 | pagefault | fun, mean flight attendants |
| 22:52.12 | file[laptop] | as long as they leave me alone to my thoughts, I won't hurt them |
| 22:52.25 | pagefault | when you get a drink be sure to ask for the entire can |
| 22:52.38 | pagefault | or you get a cup with a lot of ice and a splash of whatever |
| 22:52.45 | file[laptop] | haha |
| 22:53.12 | file[laptop] | I plan on getting drinks/food in between |
| 22:53.22 | file[laptop] | in fact I'm meeting someone in Chicago for supper... |
| 22:53.34 | pagefault | cool |
| 22:53.40 | pagefault | I hear tango has swiss chalet on it |
| 22:53.45 | pagefault | but you need to pay for it |
| 22:53.46 | file[laptop] | yup |
| 22:54.05 | file[laptop] | I do get dinner on my Toronto->Chicago flight but I'll ignore it |
| 22:54.27 | pagefault | yeah i'm sure it will be pretty awful |
| 22:55.12 | pagefault | they give you pizza if you are on an overseas flight |
| 22:55.18 | pagefault | and rock hard ice cream you need to defrost |
| 22:55.22 | file[laptop] | haha |
| 22:55.53 | file[laptop] | I need to call and see about my VON pass |
| 22:56.54 | pagefault | I wonder if you get any free stuff |
| 22:57.06 | file[laptop] | no clue |
| 22:57.13 | file[laptop] | tons of companies will be there |
| 22:57.18 | file[laptop] | I'll probably grab free stuff :) |
| 22:57.40 | pagefault | :) |
| 22:58.11 | pagefault | blah bell will have a speaker there |
| 22:59.18 | file[laptop] | yup |
| 23:00.39 | CIA-5 | spacegrant: 03evan * r944 10mck/PyMCK/Test/ (sgp4_dat2.py test_sgp4.py): |
| 23:00.39 | CIA-5 | spacegrant: Woooooo! I am satisfied that the orbit propogator doesn't suck! |
| 23:00.39 | CIA-5 | spacegrant: Which means it's done! Finally!! |
| 23:02.33 | TD | purple_cow: is the sedding .desktop magic still needed? |
| 23:04.50 | pagefault | 18:00 * Diablo-D3 is switching the GL code over to vertex arrays |
| 23:04.50 | pagefault | 18:00 -!- toxic|Work is now known as toxickore |
| 23:04.50 | pagefault | 18:01 < Diablo-D3> my code follows the original pretty closely |
| 23:04.50 | pagefault | 18:01 < Diablo-D3> and its still a shitload faster than the original |
| 23:04.50 | pagefault | 18:02 < Diablo-D3> Im going to have to fuck with how scanlines work |
| 23:05.15 | file[laptop] | O.o |
| 23:05.47 | pagefault | I have no idea what he's doing |
| 23:12.49 | ChipX86 | heh |
| 23:17.55 | ChipX86 | I hate arguing with people on the pros of integration and why stuff isn't bloated just because people say it's bloated |
| 23:19.53 | TD | lol |
| 23:19.58 | TD | ChipX86: what is "bloat" this time? |
| 23:20.06 | ChipX86 | gnome |
| 23:20.13 | ChipX86 | integration == bloat |
| 23:20.23 | ChipX86 | if two apps know about each other, that means both are bloated :) |
| 23:21.13 | TD | haha |
| 23:21.18 | TD | somebody objects to your VMware/gnome loving? |
| 23:23.53 | ChipX86 | nope |
| 23:24.04 | ChipX86 | someone I knew at school didn't like gnome because it was bloated |
| 23:24.13 | ChipX86 | turns out he hasn't used it in 3 years, but ignoring that fact... :P |
| 23:24.31 | file[laptop] | ChipX86: would you like some vegetable thins? |
| 23:24.49 | ChipX86 | I would!n't |
| 23:25.08 | file[laptop] | blasphemy |
| 23:25.31 | nullpuppy | i never really though gnome was bloated... i just thought it was fugly, well... and the libs were a nightmare... |
| 23:25.40 | TD | heh |
| 23:25.42 | nullpuppy | its not soo bad now, all though, the libs are still nightmarish imo |
| 23:25.44 | TD | gnome is pretty but slow |
| 23:28.08 | ChipX86 | woooooo |
| 23:31.10 | purple_cow | TD: haven't changed the icon install location yet. feel free to do that ;) |
| 23:31.21 | TD | k |
| 23:31.23 | TD | will do |
| 23:31.51 | ChipX86 | *sighhh* |
| 23:31.55 | ChipX86 | I hate IM |
| 23:31.57 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03mike 07fyre-1.0 * r6841 10/ (configure.ac data/fyre-fa.desktop.in data/fyre.desktop.in): Fix .desktop.in templates to not sed in data, fix icon name to include application- prefix |
| 23:35.22 | purple_cow | we probably don't need the Icon directive in -fa.desktop |
| 23:35.55 | TD | i was wondering about that |
| 23:36.28 | purple_cow | i don't think so, since that .desktop isn't used as a launcher |
| 23:37.20 | TD | how does the mimetype/icon mapping done again? magic filenames/locations isn't it |
| 23:37.38 | purple_cow | it seems that it is |
| 23:38.02 | purple_cow | icon theme always looks in hicolor as a fallback, we install application-x-fyre-animation.png to hicolor/48x48/mimetypes |
| 23:39.29 | TD | cool |
| 23:39.33 | TD | it was the application- prefix that i had missed |
| 23:40.22 | ChipX86 | so we're supposed to put icons in hicolor and not /usr/share/pixmaps now, right? |
| 23:40.55 | purple_cow | ChipX86: i think it still falls back on /usr/share/pixmaps for application icons, but i think the new standard is hicolor/NxN/apps |
| 23:41.02 | ChipX86 | ok |
| 23:41.05 | ChipX86 | I'll do both then |
| 23:41.26 | purple_cow | hicolor makes more sense to me because you can install multiple sizes |
| 23:41.31 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 23:41.41 | ChipX86 | we need to support older systems though still, so I have to do both |
| 23:41.58 | ChipX86 | actually, bah |
| 23:42.02 | ChipX86 | I'm going to just use pixmaps for now |
| 23:42.07 | ChipX86 | until we end up rewriting the installer |
| 23:42.13 | ChipX86 | it's just way too problematic right now |
| 23:42.18 | purple_cow | yeah, no need to add additional complexity until it's needed |
| 23:42.33 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 23:43.49 | CIA-5 | autopackage: 03mike * 10autopackage/apbuild/ (ChangeLog apg++ relaytool): Fix NX safety in relaytool |
| 23:43.58 | purple_cow | yay NX |
| 23:50.25 | ChipX86 | does KFC do deliveries? |
| 23:50.31 | purple_cow | ew |
| 23:50.39 | ChipX86 | it's better than fish sticks :P |
| 23:50.51 | purple_cow | hardly |
| 23:57.23 | TD | purple_cow: why does the tool default to none? shouldn't it be something like rotate? |
| 23:57.26 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03mike 07fyre-1.0 * r6842 10/autopackage/ (. default.apspec.in): Add autopackage specfile |
| 23:58.08 | purple_cow | TD: 'cuz? :) |
| 23:58.14 | TD | shall i change it? :) |
| 23:58.20 | purple_cow | no |
| 23:58.24 | TD | ok |
| 23:58.53 | TD | scanline, purple_cow: http://navi.cx/~mike/fyre-0.9.x86.package |
| 23:59.06 | purple_cow | cool |
| 23:59.27 | purple_cow | the problem with defaulting to a tool is that everyone's intuition would be different - i'd expect it to grab by default rather than rotate |
| 23:59.34 | TD | well, anything is better than nothing |
| 23:59.39 | TD | it doesn't have to be rotate |
| 23:59.47 | TD | just to make it obvious that you can interact with it |
