| 00:00.49 | purple_cow | scanline: hmm, probably |
| 00:00.49 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03micah * r6753 10fyre/src/explorer-about.c: |
| 00:00.49 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: Well, I can't test this because of a 'Sharing Violation' on my fancy windows |
| 00:00.49 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: computer, but I think this will fix the latest about box problem- |
| 00:00.49 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: on_about_close_window should be returning a boolean indicating whether to stop |
| 00:00.49 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: the original close event. |
| 00:02.19 | scanline | yay, about box is bug-free |
| 00:02.58 | pagefault | hi file |
| 00:02.59 | pagefault | what is up |
| 00:03.39 | file | Mythbusters marathon |
| 00:03.45 | scanline | ooh |
| 00:04.01 | darth_mall | monkeys! |
| 00:04.44 | file | darth_mall: where??? |
| 00:05.10 | scanline | hah.. a crash in libpango this time |
| 00:05.22 | scanline | definitely seems like either gnet or the cluster code is trashing memory |
| 00:06.45 | scanline | wow |
| 00:06.57 | scanline | gtk's file selector uses windows shows windows file icons correctly |
| 00:07.06 | scanline | s/uses windows// |
| 00:08.01 | purple_cow | cool |
| 00:10.07 | scanline | it's a good thing processes hang completely when you accidentally select any text in their terminal |
| 00:10.21 | scanline | I mean, the text might move or something if the process was allowed to run |
| 00:10.40 | pagefault | ooh |
| 00:13.07 | darth_mall | zak: I put the albums in /tmp on navi |
| 00:24.38 | purple_cow | hmm, backups almost restored |
| 00:24.57 | scanline | speaking of backups, I should set up the automatic ones again |
| 00:25.06 | purple_cow | after this i get to rearrange everything to try to avoid having things spread out across multiple disks |
| 00:25.07 | scanline | hey look, /navi/backups/cia is restored |
| 00:25.30 | purple_cow | then we can switch to bind mounts fairly painlessly if we want |
| 00:25.42 | purple_cow | we need to try 2.6 though |
| 00:25.51 | scanline | I guess |
| 00:26.09 | purple_cow | hmm, i wonder |
| 00:26.17 | purple_cow | if you have a bind mount within a bind mount, does it Just Work? |
| 00:26.43 | purple_cow | if so, we could bind /series to the currently-most-open disk, and have a bunch of mounts within that for series on other disks |
| 00:28.35 | darth_mall | scanline: it's ok, I forgive you |
| 00:28.38 | purple_cow | heh |
| 00:29.22 | scanline | haha |
| 00:29.30 | scanline | the libwimp theme engine fails spectacularly under wine |
| 00:29.51 | scanline | hmm |
| 00:29.56 | scanline | and now I have an uncloseable all-black menu |
| 00:31.34 | scanline | hmm |
| 00:31.39 | scanline | I can reproduce this crash under wine =) |
| 00:32.41 | purple_cow | neat |
| 00:33.01 | scanline | but hmm.. instead of segfaulting the wine process or something equivalently debuggable, wine just exits |
| 00:33.09 | merlin262 | doh! |
| 00:35.52 | scanline | hah, creepy |
| 00:36.06 | scanline | under wine it creates a new terminal window for command-line renders, just like under windows |
| 00:36.13 | purple_cow | woo! the dresden dolls is restored now |
| 00:37.43 | purple_cow | ooh, jonny quest |
| 00:41.51 | scanline | hrm |
| 00:41.54 | scanline | err:seh:EXC_DefaultHandling Unhandled exception code c0000005 flags 0 addr 0x4052a1f0 |
| 00:42.06 | scanline | I get one of those fancy lines, but winedbg never actually stops and gives me a console |
| 00:42.49 | darth_mall | hrm... having trouble focusing |
| 00:47.38 | purple_cow | yay, half jack |
| 00:47.42 | purple_cow | what a fantastically cool song |
| 00:48.47 | purple_cow | hmm, cool |
| 00:48.54 | purple_cow | gentoo is adding support for the TCPA stuff |
| 00:49.00 | purple_cow | to do things like kernel verification on boot :) |
| 00:49.10 | scanline | TCPA? |
| 00:49.30 | scanline | ooh |
| 00:49.31 | purple_cow | trusted computing porkbarrel association or somesuch |
| 00:49.34 | scanline | valgrind really doesn't like runnign wine |
| 00:50.35 | zak | darth_mall: thanks :) |
| 00:50.50 | merlin262 | hehe, in my latest try with wine, I could install everything I had, but couldn't run anything |
| 00:51.46 | scanline | wine's worked great for me recently.. using it for all sorts of stuff |
| 00:53.47 | darth_mall | list comprehensions are yummy |
| 00:54.12 | scanline | generator expressions are even more yumm |
| 00:54.50 | purple_cow | hmm |
| 00:55.28 | darth_mall | purple_cow: do you want us to wait for Safeway til you return? |
| 00:55.41 | purple_cow | darth_mall: yes |
| 00:56.49 | darth_mall | and now we see scanline's true face! |
| 00:56.54 | scanline | yow |
| 00:56.56 | scanline | -rwxr-xr-x 1 micah users 3150436 Feb 6 17:55 src/fyre.exe |
| 00:57.00 | scanline | that's with debug |
| 00:57.07 | scanline | a stripped binary without -g is about 100k |
| 00:59.05 | merlin262 | scanline, yea, wine is definately a lot better lately. :) |
| 01:08.53 | pagefault | file, those guys are nuts :) |
| 01:09.11 | file | pagefault: very |
| 01:19.05 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03micah * r6754 10fyre/src/remote-client.c: |
| 01:19.05 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: Still working on tracing this crasher on windows with clustering... the deepest |
| 01:19.05 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: symptom I've found so far is that GdkColor property lookups are returning NULL. |
| 01:19.05 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: Added a g_assert() in remote_client_send_param() that fails when any values are |
| 01:19.05 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: NULL. |
| 01:19.16 | pagefault | argh |
| 01:19.21 | pagefault | what the hell keeps interfering with my wireless |
| 01:19.31 | file | me! |
| 01:19.51 | pagefault | stop it :) |
| 01:19.53 | file | pagefault: wanna help me search for some linux based hardware with some specific requirements? |
| 01:19.55 | ToyKeeper | pagefault: Sorry about that; I'll turn off the death ray for a while. |
| 01:20.22 | pagefault | file: sure what are you looking for |
| 01:20.26 | pagefault | ToyKeeper, thanks :) |
| 01:20.50 | file | pagefault: runs Linux, has wifi onboard (or the capability to add it), has microphone+speaker or jack for both |
| 01:20.53 | file | ready, set, GO |
| 01:21.14 | pagefault | this could be any hardware? |
| 01:21.19 | pagefault | as long as it has that? |
| 01:21.25 | file | well, see what you can find |
| 01:21.39 | ToyKeeper | file: I think my 486 would satisfy those requirements. |
| 01:21.47 | file | embedded please |
| 01:21.56 | pagefault | why not a zaurus? |
| 01:21.57 | ToyKeeper | You can get embedded 486es. :0 |
| 01:22.00 | ToyKeeper | :) even. |
| 01:22.02 | file | pagefault: NEXT |
| 01:22.03 | file | :p |
| 01:22.21 | pagefault | haha |
| 01:22.40 | ToyKeeper | Zauruses.. er, um.. zaurii.. Hmm. Zaurix, ... zauroses... er, anyway, they're pretty neat. |
| 01:23.00 | file | http://www.elinux.org/wiki/ZipIt |
| 01:23.03 | file | that has potential |
| 01:23.14 | ToyKeeper | Dangit. Why can't I remember names today? |
| 01:23.19 | file | I know it's audio chipset has the microphone capability, but the end product doesn't have it |
| 01:24.54 | ToyKeeper | IIRC, zaurus audio works fine; you just can't use the mic and audio out at the same time. |
| 01:25.12 | KeyserLaptop | want to buy my zaurus? |
| 01:25.21 | KeyserLaptop | i think i paid $280, used. |
| 01:25.28 | file | I have one in front of me |
| 01:25.29 | ToyKeeper | KeyserLaptop: I'll give you a buck! |
| 01:25.43 | KeyserLaptop | $250 would do |
| 01:25.53 | ToyKeeper | I have a zaurus sl5500... I like it. |
| 01:26.11 | ToyKeeper | KeyserLaptop: Which model do you have? |
| 01:26.16 | KeyserLaptop | heck, $200, it's not doing me any good |
| 01:26.43 | ToyKeeper | sl5500s used to sell for $180 retail. |
| 01:26.51 | KeyserLaptop | not the first one that was the developer's model |
| 01:26.55 | KeyserLaptop | the first retail version |
| 01:27.13 | KeyserLaptop | 5500 i guess, just found the box |
| 01:27.38 | KeyserLaptop | $180? is that right? |
| 01:27.57 | ToyKeeper | I want a c860... or that newer one with a hard drive. |
| 01:28.09 | darth_mall | ~spell perterbation |
| 01:28.10 | jbot | possible spellings for perterbation: perturbation perturbations vertebration perturbation's perpetration penetration probation |
| 01:28.14 | darth_mall | that's what I thought |
| 01:28.21 | file | pagefault: failing me are you? eh? EH/ |
| 01:28.21 | ToyKeeper | sl5500s were also $300+, at most places. But home shopping network had them for $180. :) |
| 01:28.34 | pagefault | file, your query returned no results |
| 01:28.42 | file | darn replicated databases |
| 01:28.44 | file | always failing! |
| 01:29.07 | file | pagefault: think... 'voip phone' |
| 01:29.13 | KeyserLaptop | well, i probably can't expect to get 200 for it now, anyway. i shoulda sold it when i put it in a closet a year ago :) |
| 01:29.33 | pagefault | file: well there was that phone that you said you were going to try to get firmware for |
| 01:30.00 | file | pagefault: eh still SIP based, I'd like IAX... which is why I'd like hardware to make one for |
| 01:30.06 | file | the zipit is almost perfect |
| 01:32.01 | pagefault | hrm |
| 01:32.13 | scanline | is there anything like valgrind for windows? |
| 01:32.47 | ToyKeeper | Not that I'd mind having an extra Z around... I just can't afford anything right now. |
| 01:33.07 | ToyKeeper | Besides, I already don't know what to do with that ipaq h3600 sitting over in the corner. |
| 01:33.49 | ToyKeeper | I should just set it up as a permanent wireless jukebox. |
| 01:35.23 | ChipX86 | and I'm back |
| 01:35.29 | file | with? |
| 01:36.02 | ChipX86 | a GeForce FX 5500 |
| 01:36.09 | scanline | yay, FX |
| 01:36.20 | ChipX86 | that was almost as low as they went |
| 01:36.27 | ChipX86 | the next one down was a GeForce 2 MX 400 |
| 01:36.52 | ChipX86 | and now to fix my major headache |
| 01:37.00 | ChipX86 | (not the computer, actual headache) |
| 01:37.32 | ToyKeeper | Oh, yeah. Anybody have an extra fan for a geforce4 heatsink? |
| 01:37.46 | file | ToyKeeper: I might in 2 weeks |
| 01:38.10 | file | pagefault: poke |
| 01:38.15 | ToyKeeper | file: dual head, or just two different screens? I really like a laptop-next-to-desktop screen setup. :) |
| 01:38.32 | pagefault | file: poke |
| 01:38.39 | file | two monitors connected to the same system |
| 01:38.49 | file | IRC and Winamp on one, work/email/aim on the other |
| 01:39.03 | scanline | I should set up one o' them x2x-like-thingies between my laptop and desktop |
| 01:39.27 | scanline | for all this windows debugging I usually have the laptop sitting near my monitor, running windows, and my desktop cross-compiling everything |
| 01:39.28 | ToyKeeper | Hehehe... I've got, um... ~40 windows on one screen, and... another 90 or so on the other. |
| 01:40.05 | darth_mall | stupid useless physics text book |
| 01:40.14 | file | the behavior of this app is perplexing... |
| 01:40.33 | ChipX86 | ok, so I guess I'd better build an ubuntu iso |
| 01:40.46 | ChipX86 | or, hmm |
| 01:41.01 | ChipX86 | sure hope linux runs on this box |
| 01:42.25 | ToyKeeper | Hey, that's what I kept thinking last time I bought a laptop. :) |
| 01:42.54 | *** join/#tacobeam samyb (~samy@212.76.88.101) |
| 01:44.06 | pagefault | file, yes it is nice |
| 01:46.55 | file | pagefault: so how about that stuff... eh... |
| 01:50.23 | scanline | what was the name of that program that's like x2x but cross-platform? |
| 01:50.30 | ToyKeeper | synergy |
| 01:50.34 | scanline | thanks |
| 01:50.38 | ToyKeeper | And it kinda blows. :( |
| 01:51.08 | ToyKeeper | It keeps crashing, freezing, focusing the wrong windows, and otherwise messing up. |
| 01:51.18 | scanline | heh |
| 01:51.26 | scanline | well, I'll give it a try.. if not that, x2vnc should work |
| 01:51.40 | ToyKeeper | However, since it automatically does "xset r off" every time the cursor enters a screen, it's easier to use than x2x, on a laggy connection. |
| 01:51.48 | pagefault | file: no luck |
| 01:52.21 | file[laptop] | pagefault: blasphemy |
| 01:52.33 | ToyKeeper | It makes the server screen's cursors all funky, too. Like the hand cursor used when hovering over a link... never shows up. |
| 01:53.13 | ToyKeeper | Sometimes it does really stupid things, like focusing windows which are completely covered and invisible. |
| 01:53.16 | ToyKeeper | Oh well. |
| 01:53.35 | scanline | how long ago was this? |
| 01:54.10 | ToyKeeper | That was the latest dev version... the stable one is much worse. |
| 01:56.31 | KeyserLaptop | my arms are asleep, and I'm sophie |
| 01:57.06 | KeyserLaptop | how do both your arms fall asleep while you're using them? |
| 01:57.17 | file[laptop] | you're also silly |
| 01:57.50 | ChipX86 | mine did that the other night |
| 01:57.51 | pagefault | python! |
| 01:57.56 | KeyserLaptop | are you calling Keyserlaptop silly? |
| 01:58.04 | KeyserLaptop | because he's big. |
| 01:58.22 | KeyserLaptop | (and very violent sometimes) |
| 01:59.36 | ChipX86 | uh oh |
| 01:59.43 | ChipX86 | we've got to get Sophie out of there :( |
| 01:59.49 | KeyserLaptop | the conversation always stops after I say something. |
| 01:59.58 | file[laptop] | I'm saying pagefault is silly, uh huh |
| 02:00.00 | file[laptop] | that's what I said |
| 02:00.02 | ChipX86 | yep! |
| 02:00.10 | KeyserLaptop | woah |
| 02:00.13 | KeyserLaptop | lag. |
| 02:00.14 | file[laptop] | ChipX86 says I said that, therefore it MUST be true |
| 02:00.22 | ChipX86 | it MUST! With the power of two. |
| 02:00.32 | file[laptop] | exactly |
| 02:02.16 | KeyserLaptop | linux is not intuitive. There, I said it. |
| 02:02.24 | ChipX86 | which part of linux? |
| 02:02.42 | ChipX86 | and which linux distro? |
| 02:02.43 | file[laptop] | the non-intuitive part naturally |
| 02:03.01 | Sophie_ | kernel config necessary for usb mass storage device, is what we are doing now |
| 02:03.06 | ChipX86 | so I almost got World of Warcraft today, before I realized what I almost did |
| 02:03.18 | ChipX86 | Sophie_: but that's default unless you have a customized kernel and didn't enable it |
| 02:03.22 | KeyserLaptop | there part where you have to configure scsi crap to get a usb device working |
| 02:03.40 | KeyserLaptop | there =the |
| 02:04.42 | KeyserLaptop | am I wrong? |
| 02:04.50 | Sophie_ | i don't see anything showing up in /dev/scsi, or a /dev/sda*, which confuses me |
| 02:05.04 | ChipX86 | you mounted it? |
| 02:05.12 | KeyserLaptop | that's my other half, being me |
| 02:05.23 | Sophie_ | i thought all i needed to do was set up the usb and scsi stuff in the kernel (which was already set up), and then when i plug in the usb device, it'll show up in /dev |
| 02:05.34 | Sophie_ | ChipX86, mounted what? |
| 02:05.40 | ChipX86 | the /dev/sda# node |
| 02:05.40 | Sophie_ | i don't have a device file yet :) |
| 02:05.43 | scanline | ToyKeeper: wow. it seems to work, except that my mouse gets stuck on my laptop |
| 02:05.45 | ChipX86 | make one |
| 02:05.51 | ChipX86 | which distro is this? |
| 02:05.57 | Sophie_ | i don't see anything showing up -> i don't see the device node |
| 02:06.01 | Sophie_ | ChipX86, gentoo |
| 02:06.09 | Sophie_ | 2.6.10 |
| 02:06.24 | ToyKeeper | Oh, yeah, I still use synergy... I just get annoyed at it. |
| 02:06.33 | ChipX86 | ah, see, gentoo is not really the easiest distro for desktop use. It's a good distro, but not what I would recommend to showcase how easy linux can be |
| 02:06.52 | pagefault | hello |
| 02:06.52 | scanline | ToyKeeper: is there something special you have to do to move the mouse off of a screen? |
| 02:07.01 | Sophie_ | well, i had this exact device working in gentoo with a 2.4 kernel before 2.6 came out, over a year ago |
| 02:07.16 | KeyserS | KeyserLaptop, change your nick :) |
| 02:07.19 | ToyKeeper | scanline: just configure it, then run the server and client(s) |
| 02:07.32 | scanline | ToyKeeper: right. I can move my mouse off of the server onto a client, but not back again |
| 02:07.40 | ToyKeeper | BTW, you must configure two relations for each border. |
| 02:07.44 | scanline | ahh |
| 02:07.59 | file[laptop] | pagefault: tomorrow is Monday :( |
| 02:08.08 | KeyserLaptop | I'm not saying operating systems should necessarily optimize for intuitiveness. |
| 02:08.26 | KeyserS | perhaps the usb card reader is broken. i don't see anything in dmesg when i plug it in |
| 02:08.56 | ChipX86 | http://whitelead.com/jrh/ISPs/index.html#porn |
| 02:09.04 | ChipX86 | porn site, but without the people |
| 02:09.17 | ChipX86 | that's funny but stupid |
| 02:09.46 | pagefault | file[laptop], yeah it sucks |
| 02:09.54 | hardwire | ChipX86: so I missed a link to the atx case |
| 02:09.56 | hardwire | heh |
| 02:10.05 | Sophie_Laptop | I think it's sexy.. keeps the mystery alive |
| 02:10.10 | Sophie_Laptop | :d |
| 02:10.51 | hardwire | ToyKeeper: they sell fans for that at compusa/bestbuy |
| 02:10.54 | ChipX86 | http://www.silverstonetek.com/products-lc03v.htm |
| 02:11.13 | hardwire | I appreciate that |
| 02:11.16 | file[laptop] | hardwire: ...YOU! linux based embedded device, wifi, mic/speaker, any ideas? |
| 02:11.25 | hardwire | uh |
| 02:11.30 | hardwire | how fast? |
| 02:11.32 | hardwire | and how small? |
| 02:11.42 | ChipX86 | it's just a case |
| 02:11.44 | file[laptop] | doesn't need to be fast at all, needs to be as small as you can get it |
| 02:11.47 | scanline | file[laptop]: PC/104 board with a CF wifi card |
| 02:11.53 | ChipX86 | oh |
| 02:11.56 | hardwire | heh |
| 02:12.05 | ChipX86 | ok, hope a linux install goes well on here |
| 02:12.18 | ChipX86 | I'll keep the windows partition alive for now I guess |
| 02:12.19 | hardwire | file[laptop]: there are tons of optinos |
| 02:12.26 | hardwire | how small.. |
| 02:12.30 | hardwire | whats the purpose? |
| 02:12.34 | file[laptop] | hardwire: think voip, think twisted |
| 02:12.38 | hardwire | ugh |
| 02:12.44 | hardwire | thats really not helpfull |
| 02:12.51 | file[laptop] | think 'STUPID IDIOTS CAN'T MAKE A WIFI VOIP PHONE!' |
| 02:12.58 | hardwire | oh |
| 02:13.01 | hardwire | thats too small |
| 02:13.11 | hardwire | I can't even concieve making a voip phone |
| 02:13.17 | Sophie_Laptop | fast and small, that's just what a girl likes to hear |
| 02:13.27 | hardwire | however.. you could always support OE on the HP GPRS/GSM/WiFi phone |
| 02:13.38 | file[laptop] | hardwire: ugh do I dare inquire... |
| 02:14.05 | KeyserS | nothing shows up in /proc/bus/usb/devices when i plug in the device |
| 02:14.15 | file[laptop] | hardwire: URL? |
| 02:14.22 | hardwire | hp.com |
| 02:14.44 | hardwire | or.. any PDA w/ a phone |
| 02:14.45 | file[laptop] | you're peachy |
| 02:15.54 | file[laptop] | hardwire: how about... not as a phone, but... as a messaging device |
| 02:15.54 | hardwire | dude |
| 02:16.02 | hardwire | use a pager? |
| 02:16.05 | hardwire | hehe |
| 02:16.12 | file[laptop] | pff, pager |
| 02:16.20 | hardwire | invest in PACSIM or whatever the protocol is 2way pagers |
| 02:16.26 | hardwire | or use the vocera badge |
| 02:16.28 | hardwire | whatever it is |
| 02:16.38 | scanline | hah |
| 02:16.39 | hardwire | what about the gumstix |
| 02:16.51 | scanline | fyre under valgrind on my laptop isn't that much slower than fyre on my laptop |
| 02:16.55 | hardwire | you could throw a very small LCD on it.. and modify the riser for the sound for a 2.5mm headset |
| 02:16.55 | scanline | er |
| 02:16.58 | scanline | s/laptop/desktop/ |
| 02:17.02 | hardwire | its bluetooth |
| 02:17.21 | file[laptop] | cute. |
| 02:20.10 | scanline | gyarr.. |
| 02:24.06 | hardwire | blah |
| 02:24.27 | scanline | libxml needs pthreads? |
| 02:24.30 | Sophie_Laptop | damn. the usb compact flash card reader works on my laptop, and i don't see any kernel config differences between the laptop and desktop |
| 02:24.47 | darth_mall | scanline: everything needs pthreads |
| 02:26.23 | ChipX86 | you need to create the device nodes and mount the device |
| 02:29.52 | file | hardwire: this Snom softphone is insanely full featured |
| 02:33.10 | darth_mall | yay scanline! |
| 02:33.36 | scanline | yay me? |
| 02:33.41 | darth_mall | yes |
| 02:33.50 | Sophie_Laptop | gina's PC has USB 2.0 and so does my laptop, but I have UHCI for 1.1, and she has OHCI for 1.1, and the device in question is 1.1. i'm gonna try compiling her kernel with OHCI instead of UHCI, in case it wants to use that for a 1.1 device |
| 02:35.30 | darth_mall | Sophie_Laptop: moo? |
| 02:35.55 | KeyserS | sophie's on the phone |
| 02:36.04 | darth_mall | KeyserS: moo? |
| 02:36.15 | KeyserS | most definately moo |
| 02:36.25 | KeyserS | do you, eh, yaMoo? |
| 02:36.33 | file[laptop] | lots of stealing going on |
| 02:36.39 | darth_mall | mooooooooooooooooooooo |
| 02:36.48 | file[laptop] | and mooing |
| 02:38.26 | KeyserS | yeah, that was it. |
| 02:39.10 | darth_mall | KeyserS: you don't use it enough |
| 02:39.19 | KeyserS | turned out a 1.1 device wanted the OHCI on soph's nforce2, and it wanted UHCI on my pentium-m laptop, so having the kernel configs identical was not good |
| 02:39.37 | ToyKeeper | Oi. This fyre is going to take forever to render. |
| 02:39.40 | KeyserS | darth_mall: no, in real life i use 'steal' in situations where it'd suck to be misconstrued |
| 02:39.50 | darth_mall | KeyserS: that means you're not using it enough |
| 02:39.53 | ToyKeeper | http://z.xyzz.org/whirlpool-1.png |
| 02:39.55 | KeyserS | hehe |
| 02:40.41 | darth_mall | ToyKeeper: you're off the team! |
| 02:42.24 | file | can anyone explain what a 'bumble berry' is? |
| 02:42.25 | darth_mall | that's ok, you're not actually off the team |
| 02:43.47 | KeyserS | and then ooh's again, for good measure |
| 02:44.13 | KeyserS | can i have that in 1680x1050 please? it'll be my new wallpaper |
| 02:44.36 | darth_mall | mooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo |
| 02:44.37 | ChipX86 | I should play with some art stuff tonight |
| 02:44.38 | scanline | mmm, whirly |
| 02:44.42 | ToyKeeper | KeyserS: fyre.navi.cx. Build, then run "fyre -i foo.png" to load settings... then render as desired. |
| 02:45.06 | darth_mall | silly ToyKeeper and his making sense |
| 02:45.46 | ChipX86 | Fyre rocks |
| 02:45.53 | ChipX86 | check some of these out: |
| 02:46.01 | ChipX86 | http://chipx86.deviantart.com/gallery/ |
| 02:46.04 | ToyKeeper | Instructions for using fyre: hit randomize. Play with knobs, until a "knot" shows up. Zoom into the knot. Then keep moving knobs. :) |
| 02:46.18 | ChipX86 | or use the A, C, and D keys |
| 02:46.20 | darth_mall | ChipX86: I miss you |
| 02:46.24 | ChipX86 | darth_mall: :D why? |
| 02:46.29 | scanline | yay, it's chipX86! |
| 02:46.32 | darth_mall | because you're not here |
| 02:46.34 | ChipX86 | did I leave for a while? |
| 02:46.35 | ChipX86 | oh |
| 02:46.40 | KeyserS | s/image/images/ |
| 02:46.45 | scanline | ToyKeeper: I have different instructions, usually involving gdb and application of forehead to table |
| 02:47.16 | ToyKeeper | :) |
| 02:47.38 | ToyKeeper | I prefer application of forehead to sharp, rusty objects. Gets the job done, and it's a lot faster. :) |
| 02:47.39 | scanline | oh. damnit.. I had my logic backwards |
| 02:47.46 | scanline | was rendering the view as long as it didn't need it |
| 02:48.24 | KeyserS | it looks more organic than fractals usually do. looks like there's something fluid mechanilistic about it |
| 02:48.56 | ChipX86 | figures. I remove Rachael from my buddy list, and she IMs me the next day |
| 02:48.59 | darth_mall | KeyserS: they're not necessarily fractals |
| 02:49.18 | darth_mall | ChipX86: it's karma |
| 02:49.21 | darth_mall | also, you're cute |
| 02:49.31 | ChipX86 | that's not why she wants to talk to me |
| 02:49.33 | darth_mall | also, do you have any cake? cuz I could really go for some |
| 02:49.37 | KeyserS | darth_mall: i gathered that after looking at the images, but the equations for it remind me of fractals |
| 02:49.40 | darth_mall | also, when are you gonna visit |
| 02:49.52 | darth_mall | KeyserS: ^^ |
| 02:52.11 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03micah * r6755 10fyre/src/ (explorer-about.c explorer.c explorer.h): |
| 02:52.11 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: Big cleanup of explorer_update_gui(), along with a small change in the rate |
| 02:52.11 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: limiting algorithm. The status bar now operates on a fixed rate limit, while the |
| 02:52.11 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: view itself uses our spiffy nonlinear dynamic rate limiter. This keeps the |
| 02:52.11 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: status moving even when late in a render when the view updates very |
| 02:52.11 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: infrequently. Also set the status_dirty flag and update it when forcing a |
| 02:52.14 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: pause/unpause for the about box. |
| 02:52.23 | scanline | KeyserS: fyre is the project that purple_cow and I took to SIGGRAPH 2004 :) |
| 02:53.51 | darth_mall | hehe |
| 02:54.26 | *** join/#tacobeam zak (~zak@128.138.74.40) |
| 02:54.32 | zak | hey all |
| 02:54.51 | scanline | hi zak |
| 02:55.03 | zak | where can i get this: perl module Locale::gettext |
| 02:55.15 | darth_mall | at your locale perl store |
| 02:55.24 | file[laptop] | darth_mall: I give you an A+ on that |
| 02:55.43 | zak | hi scanline |
| 02:56.49 | scanline | hah. seems like every time I use fyre it surprises me |
| 02:56.54 | scanline | http://navi.cx/~micah/fyre-unfiled/medulla.png |
| 02:57.02 | scanline | I think that's two limit cycles smushed up next to each other |
| 02:57.41 | scanline | and if you flip on emphasize_transient, you can find some cool stuff inside the cycles |
| 02:57.42 | darth_mall | ChipX86: I definitely like spiral brush |
| 02:57.47 | ToyKeeper | hehe... aptly-named. |
| 02:58.26 | KeyserS | ToyKeeper: can i have your params for that whirlpool? |
| 02:58.34 | ToyKeeper | KeyserS: they're already in that pic. |
| 02:58.40 | darth_mall | KeyserS: just open it in fyre |
| 02:59.11 | KeyserS | holy shit!!! |
| 02:59.15 | darth_mall | lol |
| 02:59.17 | KeyserS | that is freaking cool! |
| 02:59.30 | scanline | :) |
| 02:59.59 | scanline | oh, sweet |
| 03:00.12 | scanline | the bifurcation diagram near medulla.png is funky |
| 03:00.24 | darth_mall | moo? |
| 03:01.02 | ChipX86 | that's a big step for Rachael. She asked for my help on something. |
| 03:01.13 | ChipX86 | she's been using a computer that barely functions for almost a year because she wouldn't ask for my help |
| 03:01.14 | darth_mall | uhoh... her shoe came untied? |
| 03:01.20 | darth_mall | oh |
| 03:01.22 | darth_mall | I liked my answer better |
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| 03:01.35 | darth_mall | egads! it's Sophie_ again |
| 03:02.04 | scanline | hrm, this is another of those animations that just beg for better stopping conditions |
| 03:02.11 | darth_mall | yay beg |
| 03:02.23 | scanline | at this point I might even be happy to have a way to tell it to render each frame for a fixed amount of wallclock time |
| 03:02.32 | darth_mall | and dance? |
| 03:02.40 | darth_mall | Soph_movie: sure |
| 03:02.53 | Soph_movie | yarn, even |
| 03:02.55 | scanline | yay, yarm |
| 03:03.01 | scanline | it's like malk |
| 03:03.26 | scanline | purple_cow: (fyre:27045): libgnomevfs-CRITICAL **: file gnome-vfs-utils.c: line 749 (gnome_vfs_get_uri_from_local_path): assertion`local_full_path[0] == '/'' failed |
| 03:03.45 | scanline | purple_cow: they're probably harmless, but I know I've seen them under windows too.. and there they cause gtk to bring up a big ugly console window |
| 03:04.08 | darth_mall | well, ugly console windows are the whole point, aren't they? |
| 03:04.19 | scanline | mm, I like purple_cow's confirmation doodad for the animation render UI |
| 03:05.53 | darth_mall | uhoh... movie |
| 03:05.53 | file[laptop] | oh no, I'm gone! |
| 03:06.38 | darth_mall | foooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooood cooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooma |
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| 03:07.42 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03micah * r6756 10fyre/TODO: I really want new stopping conditions. Included a possible UI for them in the rendering dialog. |
| 03:08.14 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03micah * r6757 10fyre/BUGS: Add that gnome-vfs warning |
| 03:09.21 | *** join/#tacobeam pagefault (~pagefault@67.71.46.49) |
| 03:21.05 | scanline | ooh, I think that did it |
| 03:21.18 | scanline | nope |
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| 03:40.01 | scanline | guh. it's like getting teeth pulled trying to make gnet compile without threads |
| 03:51.15 | scanline | aha |
| 03:51.30 | scanline | valgrind seems to do alright if you skip gnet_init() :P |
| 03:52.54 | scanline | sweet |
| 03:52.58 | scanline | I can reproduce the problem under linux |
| 03:53.15 | scanline | hmm |
| 03:53.26 | scanline | and valgrind didn't help at all, it was that g_assert() I put in there earlier today |
| 04:01.17 | rioter | cool tim burton has a new movie coming out |
| 04:02.46 | nullpuppy | cool |
| 04:02.54 | nullpuppy | something other then the new batman movie? |
| 04:04.15 | darth_mall | moo? |
| 04:05.27 | file[laptop] | eep! |
| 04:05.48 | pagefault | wow I have 50 invites on gmail |
| 04:06.04 | rioter | nullpuppy yeah its a claymation movie by the looks of it |
| 04:06.10 | nullpuppy | rioter: oooh, cool |
| 04:06.13 | darth_mall | pagefault: give them all to one person |
| 04:06.24 | darth_mall | that sounds like possibly a purple_cow |
| 04:08.39 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03micah * r6758 10fyre/src/remote-client.c: |
| 04:08.39 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: This should fix the crash when changing colors in cluster mode. This was |
| 04:08.39 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: happening because of parameter values that were NULL after serialization. |
| 04:08.39 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: Linux's printf() would render those as "(null)" while windows' would crash. The |
| 04:08.39 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: reason behind the NULL values has been explained, but it doesn't need to be |
| 04:08.39 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: fixed yet- we just don't send parameters that don't serialize. Currently these |
| 04:08.41 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: are GdkColors, which the render nodes don't care about. |
| 04:11.25 | purple_cow | woof |
| 04:12.02 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03micah * r6759 10fyre/BUGS: That indeed fixed the cluster color crasher. Now it's purple_cow's turn |
| 04:13.24 | purple_cow | hehe |
| 04:13.33 | purple_cow | the gnomevfs thing? |
| 04:14.00 | scanline | it's not really noticable under leenooks, but in windows gtk makes a separate window for the warnings |
| 04:16.16 | purple_cow | heh, looks like the answer to that one is "none" |
| 04:17.55 | scanline | with the crashers out of the way we're getting quite close |
| 04:18.33 | scanline | I'm still awfully bitter that I managed to make fyre run in valgrind with gnet, but it turned out that wasn't even close to the problem |
| 04:18.45 | purple_cow | hehe |
| 04:18.49 | purple_cow | how did you manage that? |
| 04:19.01 | scanline | I think it was just as simple as commenting out gnet_init() |
| 04:19.15 | scanline | it's a total pain in the ass to get gnet to compile without any thread support |
| 04:19.25 | purple_cow | hehe |
| 04:19.27 | scanline | I thought I did it, but there was still some lingering thread initialization somewhere |
| 04:19.47 | scanline | AFAICT it only uses gnet_init() to set up threading stuffs |
| 04:25.04 | ChipX86 | sigh. |
| 04:25.07 | ChipX86 | that ruined the night |
| 04:25.14 | scanline | =( |
| 04:25.16 | scanline | what happened? |
| 04:25.25 | ChipX86 | I called Rachael so we could fix her computer |
| 04:25.30 | scanline | ah |
| 04:25.37 | ChipX86 | she immediately launched into this thing about how she feels about this guy Noah |
| 04:25.42 | ChipX86 | and all this stuff that's been going on, and stuff |
| 04:25.51 | ChipX86 | I eventually said I can't hear this any more |
| 04:26.05 | ChipX86 | and she asked why, and I started to tell her about how I've felt since we broke up |
| 04:26.11 | ChipX86 | it went into this big whole conversation about it |
| 04:26.17 | ChipX86 | and now she's upset with me for bringing it up |
| 04:26.46 | darth_mall | ChipX86: Break contact and continue mission |
| 04:26.48 | darth_mall | ;) |
| 04:26.54 | ChipX86 | I was doing that. |
| 04:27.09 | ChipX86 | damnit. I should have known better |
| 04:27.11 | purple_cow | wheee |
| 04:27.17 | ChipX86 | and why can't she just put herself in my shoes and not get all pissed |
| 04:27.30 | darth_mall | right... but the idea behind breaking contact and continuing mission is that you keep contact broken so you can complete your mission ;) |
| 04:27.32 | ChipX86 | I just want to call Jamie now, though I know I'm going to sound upset and she'll ask why |
| 04:27.44 | ChipX86 | darth_mall: she initiated contact. |
| 04:27.54 | darth_mall | but that doesn't mean you have to stick around for it ;) |
| 04:28.08 | darth_mall | but spell her name right |
| 04:28.36 | darth_mall | it's important to spell someone's name correclty when on the phone |
| 04:28.54 | darth_mall | stupid fat fingers, I'll kill you! RAR! |
| 04:28.56 | darth_mall | ow |
| 04:30.47 | darth_mall | hello lurgy |
| 04:30.54 | darth_mall | do you have an interest in Safeway? |
| 04:31.04 | rioter | thast what girlfriends are there for ChipX86 to listen to your bitching, so call jamie :) |
| 04:31.25 | kergoth | re |
| 04:31.30 | darth_mall | yay bitching |
| 04:31.32 | ChipX86 | oh yeah, call up my new girlfriend all upset because of my ex girlfriend and how I still feel about her. Good plan. |
| 04:31.34 | darth_mall | ChipX86: see? rioter gets it |
| 04:31.34 | kergoth | i'm really liking stephen r donaldson's books |
| 04:31.38 | scanline | woo, laptop-swappy-fest |
| 04:32.26 | kergoth | ChipX86: i recommend just brooding and muttering incoherently. let it pass |
| 04:32.30 | kergoth | heh |
| 04:32.32 | pagefault | american dad is good |
| 04:32.48 | file[laptop] | pagefault: very |
| 04:33.03 | darth_mall | scanline: sacresy! |
| 04:33.06 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r6760 10fyre/ (5 files in 2 dirs): fix gnome-vfs runtime warning |
| 04:33.09 | darth_mall | scanline: but I still love you |
| 04:33.19 | pagefault | no more late fees? |
| 04:33.21 | pagefault | how does that work heh |
| 04:33.22 | purple_cow | -rw-r--r-- 1 jupiter users 0 Feb 6 21:38 BUGS |
| 04:33.27 | scanline | purple_cow: ! |
| 04:33.50 | pagefault | just borrow it for a year |
| 04:34.11 | lurgy | darth_mall: hmm, safeway |
| 04:34.13 | lurgy | darth_mall: ok |
| 04:34.16 | darth_mall | lurgy: hmm indeed! |
| 04:34.17 | darth_mall | yay |
| 04:34.28 | purple_cow | we should wait until i move my laundry to the dryer |
| 04:34.40 | scanline | haha |
| 04:34.52 | scanline | you can watch the laptop swap in parts of the histogram every time it does a merge from the cluster |
| 04:34.58 | purple_cow | hah |
| 04:35.55 | purple_cow | hmm |
| 04:36.01 | purple_cow | so do we want to cut an 0.9? |
| 04:36.20 | scanline | I think feature-wise and bug-wise this is a 1.0, but it needs more testing |
| 04:36.37 | scanline | so I guess I wouldn't mind an 0.9 after I test this on at least one other windows machine and maybe spiff up the installer a bit |
| 04:36.50 | purple_cow | well, you've got your stopping condition thing too |
| 04:36.55 | scanline | ah, true |
| 04:37.01 | purple_cow | which seems simple enough that it could be a 1.0 feature |
| 04:37.22 | scanline | damnit... this laptop is alternating between about 5e5 and 7e6 performance |
| 04:37.36 | scanline | the head of the cluster definitely needs more RAM and CPU |
| 04:38.21 | scanline | er.. after I play with the installer >:) |
| 04:38.43 | scanline | people expect frivolous crap on windows installers |
| 04:39.10 | scanline | but hooray for cluster autodiscovery |
| 04:39.22 | scanline | it automagically found my node on yoshi after it had already been rendering on navi for a while |
| 04:40.33 | zak | ChipX86: I sorries, if i were you, and if you really care about jaime, tell her, hopefully she is smart enough to realize breaking up with people sucks, and that you came to her for comfort |
| 04:42.57 | kergoth | ~emulate stewie |
| 04:42.58 | jbot | Damn you, broccoli. |
| 04:43.07 | darth_mall | ~emulate brian |
| 04:43.08 | jbot | Hey, Peter, it's seven o'clock and you've still got your pants on. What's the occassion? |
| 04:43.14 | darth_mall | hehehe |
| 04:43.30 | kergoth | hehe |
| 04:43.33 | kergoth | ~botsnack |
| 04:43.33 | jbot | aw, gee, kergoth |
| 04:44.25 | nullpuppy | man, seth mcfarlane is a freakin genious |
| 04:44.51 | darth_mall | nullpuppy: and a coke fiend (that's the not-so-reliable rumour I heard) ;) |
| 04:45.02 | nullpuppy | hehe |
| 04:45.12 | kergoth | there's this fantasy series called Thomas Covenant the Unbeliever, that i highly recommend, for those that enjoy such things |
| 04:45.29 | darth_mall | the only reason I entertain the possibility is that the show kind of seems like something a coke fiend would come up with |
| 04:45.37 | kergoth | the main character is a bitter, angry guy who suffers from leprosy and gets pulled into another world |
| 04:45.39 | darth_mall | kergoth: I enjoy such things |
| 04:45.46 | darth_mall | yay lepers! |
| 04:45.46 | nullpuppy | darth_mall: hehe |
| 04:45.51 | kergoth | he's the unbeliever because through the entire book, he doesnt believe this world exists |
| 04:45.53 | nullpuppy | darth_mall: did you catch the american dad preview? |
| 04:45.55 | kergoth | :) |
| 04:46.01 | darth_mall | nullpuppy: nope, never heard of it' |
| 04:46.06 | nullpuppy | .. dude |
| 04:46.12 | darth_mall | TV makes my head bleed, by and large |
| 04:46.13 | *** join/#tacobeam orchid (orchid@orchid.user) |
| 04:46.17 | darth_mall | orchid! |
| 04:46.23 | scanline | darth_mall! |
| 04:46.26 | darth_mall | hmm... I must have hw I'm avoiding ^^ |
| 04:46.27 | nullpuppy | i'll see if i can find a torrent and send it up on navi |
| 04:46.27 | scanline | or.. orchid! |
| 04:46.47 | orchid | hi |
| 04:47.10 | purple_cow | darth_mall: new show by the family guy people |
| 04:47.24 | kergoth | really? i'll have to check that out |
| 04:47.29 | nullpuppy | yup |
| 04:47.35 | purple_cow | looked interesting |
| 04:47.41 | nullpuppy | it twas awesome |
| 04:48.24 | kergoth | i wonder why i'm listening to afro-man (of "because i got high" fame) |
| 04:48.47 | nullpuppy | lol |
| 04:48.55 | purple_cow | hmm, xchat-gnome really needs a better channel list |
| 04:49.57 | kergoth | heh, this song begins with .. "So, there's this old guy right.. he's walking by this fish market... he goes *sniff sniff* .. whew.. good morning ladies!" |
| 04:50.03 | kergoth | s/old guy/blind guy/ |
| 04:51.35 | kergoth | boooored |
| 04:52.32 | scanline | hmm |
| 04:52.41 | scanline | it'd be nice if there was a way to display the GPL without asking them to agree :P |
| 04:53.11 | purple_cow | heh |
| 04:54.07 | lurgy | you should flash it subliminal style |
| 04:54.28 | scanline | could use the arbitrary initial conditions code to microprint it on the output :P |
| 04:54.28 | lurgy | in a very small font |
| 04:56.29 | purple_cow | ok, ima gonna go move laundry |
| 04:56.30 | purple_cow | then we should go |
| 04:58.00 | scanline | wowie |
| 04:58.06 | scanline | NSIS's LZMA compressor rocks |
| 04:58.11 | scanline | -rwxr-xr-x 1 micah users 2547917 Feb 6 21:58 fyre-0.9svn-20050206.exe |
| 04:58.11 | scanline | -rw-r--r-- 1 micah users 3296993 Feb 6 21:57 fyre-0.9svn-20050206.zip |
| 04:58.59 | lurgy | hmm, go you say.. |
| 05:00.13 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03micah * r6761 10fyre/build/dist-win32.sh: Switch to the Modern UI and the LZMA compressor |
| 05:01.05 | scanline | that's rather impressive fitting fyre and it's huge pile of dependencies in 25MB |
| 05:01.07 | scanline | er, 2.5MB |
| 05:01.13 | rioter | http://www.theiowachannel.com/news/4169707/detail.html |
| 05:01.59 | ChipX86 | back |
| 05:03.32 | purple_cow | scanline: pokepoke |
| 05:03.51 | scanline | coming |
| 05:04.05 | ChipX86 | I must be masochistic |
| 05:04.09 | ChipX86 | Rachael's calling again |
| 05:04.27 | ChipX86 | she feels all bad, and we're going to try again to fix the computer without getting into personal stuff |
| 05:05.17 | rioter | .... |
| 05:05.24 | rioter | ChipX86 thats not going ot happen and you know it |
| 05:05.30 | ChipX86 | might not |
| 05:05.30 | kergoth | ~bitchslap ChipX86 |
| 05:05.32 | jbot | ACTION beats the sh*t out of ChipX86 |
| 05:05.32 | ChipX86 | I know. |
| 05:06.08 | ChipX86 | and you're right zak, I do have an understanding girlfriend.. though I didn't get into all the specifics of the talk, but she says she understands and doesn't feel worried or anything because of it |
| 05:23.28 | pagefault | night |
| 05:57.13 | purple_cow | hmm, cool |
| 05:57.14 | purple_cow | http://featherlinux.berlios.de/about.htm |
| 05:57.50 | scanline | aww, it doesn't come with fyre |
| 05:58.21 | scanline | "I also changed the standard XFree86 server to the XVesa and XFbdev servers, which are quicker and much smaller." |
| 05:58.22 | scanline | eww |
| 05:58.33 | scanline | quicker on what crappy hardware? |
| 05:59.07 | purple_cow | i don't care about X |
| 06:00.33 | purple_cow | all i need is something i can boot, parted and start a gentoo install |
| 06:00.57 | scanline | ah |
| 06:03.06 | scanline | hmm |
| 06:03.16 | scanline | gimp crash while cropping |
| 06:08.05 | lurgy | hmm |
| 06:08.31 | darth_mall | lurgy! |
| 06:08.39 | lurgy | we have a Legend of Zelda NES ROM, right? |
| 06:08.45 | lurgy | yyep |
| 06:08.47 | lurgy | lurgy |
| 06:08.47 | darth_mall | possibly |
| 06:10.29 | darth_mall | good idea |
| 06:16.18 | hardwire | blah and 1/2 |
| 06:18.10 | purple_cow | yay ice cream |
| 06:20.45 | hardwire | I want food |
| 06:22.36 | hardwire | that ain't right |
| 06:22.40 | purple_cow | hehe |
| 06:22.50 | scanline | :) |
| 06:24.03 | scanline | what the *fuck* |
| 06:24.18 | scanline | win2k gave me half a bluescreen, the screen went all woobly, then it rebooted |
| 06:24.22 | scanline | after I tried to take a screenshot |
| 06:24.23 | purple_cow | cool |
| 06:24.54 | scanline | hey... |
| 06:25.01 | scanline | hardwire: you must have a windows machine somewhere right? |
| 06:25.09 | darth_mall | scanline: lol |
| 06:25.12 | hardwire | my g/f uses one. |
| 06:25.19 | hardwire | I can pull it up over VNC atm |
| 06:25.24 | scanline | =) |
| 06:25.35 | hardwire | que? |
| 06:26.08 | scanline | any gtk libraries on it already? |
| 06:26.23 | hardwire | she doesn't use xchat or anything |
| 06:26.24 | hardwire | so no |
| 06:26.29 | scanline | cool |
| 06:27.23 | hardwire | just say poo |
| 06:28.37 | scanline | k, they're updated |
| 06:28.42 | darth_mall | beeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaans |
| 06:28.44 | scanline | fyre-0.9svn-20050206.exe |
| 06:28.46 | hardwire | grab both? |
| 06:28.52 | scanline | you only need one |
| 06:28.59 | scanline | the .exe is an installer, the .zip runs without installation |
| 06:29.05 | scanline | it'd be nice to test the installer |
| 06:29.38 | hardwire | yup |
| 06:29.43 | hardwire | I have never used fyre |
| 06:29.57 | scanline | using it over VNC won't be all that pleasant ;) |
| 06:30.22 | hardwire | I am not |
| 06:30.26 | scanline | ah |
| 06:30.31 | hardwire | I found a laptop sitting next to m |
| 06:30.32 | hardwire | e |
| 06:30.37 | scanline | purple_cow: http://navi.cx/~micah/fyre-unfiled/fyre-setup.jpeg |
| 06:31.12 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03micah * r6762 10fyre/build/ (6 files in 2 dirs): Add some artwork for the installer |
| 06:32.38 | purple_cow | scanline: very sexy |
| 06:33.06 | darth_mall | scanline is always sexy |
| 06:33.16 | purple_cow | yep |
| 06:33.18 | scanline | now i just need the verdict from hardwire ;) |
| 06:33.20 | darth_mall | yep |
| 06:33.40 | hardwire | scanline: oh.. I was busy playing |
| 06:33.49 | darth_mall | naughty hardwire |
| 06:33.54 | scanline | it works? or playing with other things? |
| 06:33.55 | hardwire | it installed fine |
| 06:33.59 | scanline | ah, cool |
| 06:34.00 | scanline | and runs? |
| 06:34.05 | hardwire | w/o problem |
| 06:34.08 | scanline | nice! |
| 06:34.26 | scanline | purple_cow: methinks I'll do that after some more OJ |
| 06:34.36 | scanline | hmm, and macgyver |
| 06:34.39 | hardwire | I took a too late nap |
| 06:34.46 | hardwire | napped at like 5:00 |
| 06:34.51 | purple_cow | we should move macgyver upstairs |
| 06:34.52 | hardwire | woke up at 9:00 |
| 06:34.59 | hardwire | this is going to fuck w/ me |
| 06:35.44 | darth_mall | you should keep macgyver downstairs cuz I'm going to bed soon |
| 06:37.09 | purple_cow | silly darth_mall and his bed |
| 06:39.39 | hardwire | okay |
| 06:39.43 | hardwire | I need to make dinner |
| 06:39.47 | hardwire | I think soup is the answer |
| 06:39.51 | hardwire | or pizza |
| 06:39.55 | hardwire | I don't have to make that |
| 06:39.57 | hardwire | and its yummy |
| 06:40.06 | hardwire | no.. my g/f can't eat wheat right now |
| 06:40.09 | hardwire | damnit all to hell |
| 06:40.09 | hardwire | ugh |
| 06:40.13 | hardwire | bye bye people |
| 06:40.25 | lurgy | bye bye person |
| 06:40.26 | scanline | bye hardwire |
| 06:40.37 | scanline | thanks for testing that fyre build |
| 06:48.36 | lurgy | okeydoke, sleepytime |
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| 06:51.19 | purple_cow | it's amazing how macgyver can find a bag of fertilizer anywhere |
| 06:51.22 | scanline | hmm |
| 06:54.39 | scanline | ah |
| 06:54.51 | scanline | I have it installed in /usr, but the icon path in the .desktop still points to /usr/local |
| 06:55.29 | scanline | hmm |
| 06:55.36 | scanline | a "make clean" doesn't remove the .desktop files |
| 06:57.34 | purple_cow | hmm |
| 06:58.02 | scanline | do I need to restart nautilus for the 'open in' to work? |
| 06:58.21 | purple_cow | scanline: no, just update-desktop-database as root |
| 06:58.38 | scanline | ah |
| 06:58.46 | scanline | maybe "make install" should do that? |
| 06:58.57 | purple_cow | probably :) |
| 06:59.11 | scanline | so the 'open with fyre' works nicely |
| 06:59.11 | scanline | but I don't get squat on .fa files |
| 06:59.19 | purple_cow | you don't? |
| 06:59.28 | scanline | right |
| 06:59.38 | purple_cow | hmm |
| 06:59.41 | *** join/#tacobeam KeyserLaptop (~gazicm@user-0cej5mv.cable.mindspring.com) |
| 06:59.48 | ChipX86 | so Rachael brought up that guy Noah again. |
| 06:59.57 | ChipX86 | I moved her off the subject though, quickly this time |
| 07:06.10 | purple_cow | ChipX86: you really need to just stop talking to her |
| 07:06.16 | scanline | silly purple_cow and his "ideas" |
| 07:06.17 | ChipX86 | yep |
| 07:40.09 | scanline | purple_cow: I think we should go ahead and cut a 0.9, then do bug fixes and new stopping conditions for 1.0 |
| 07:42.29 | purple_cow | scanline: ok. care to try to fix the .desktop stuff? :) |
| 07:42.48 | scanline | something I read said that gnome 2.6 isn't even using that new freedesktop mime stuff for icons yet |
| 07:42.54 | scanline | that it's a 2.8 thing they're transitioning to |
| 07:43.53 | purple_cow | scanline: uhh, i'm running 2.9 :P |
| 07:43.57 | scanline | ah |
| 07:43.59 | purple_cow | and you should be on 2.8 |
| 07:44.23 | scanline | then I guess that was an old mailing list post and I have no clue what's happening with gnome ;) |
| 07:44.37 | purple_cow | gnome is using the shared-mime-info stuff, but i dunno how to set icons for that |
| 07:46.34 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03micah * r6763 10fyre/TODO: Add some better ideas on implementing new stopping conditions |
| 07:46.45 | scanline | uh oh, it's Dexter |
| 07:47.10 | ChipX86 | I'm making a comic! |
| 07:47.14 | scanline | =D |
| 07:52.11 | scanline | purple_cow: mmyep.. so we should release 0.9 before I start hacking histograms to pieces ;) |
| 07:52.22 | purple_cow | heh |
| 07:58.02 | purple_cow | scanline: hmm, where's the code to show the animation window? |
| 07:58.06 | purple_cow | with -n |
| 07:58.33 | purple_cow | urgh. this is the episode with the tent stake petons |
| 07:58.43 | scanline | explorer-animation.c:95 |
| 08:01.05 | scanline | heh, all the docs on mime associations and such I can find on google are ancient |
| 08:03.43 | purple_cow | glurg |
| 08:03.55 | purple_cow | how the hell do you hammer a tent stake into "sheer granite" |
| 08:04.08 | scanline | on a tent stake advertisement? |
| 08:04.37 | purple_cow | on macgyver :P |
| 08:08.36 | scanline | woo, a metahistogram |
| 08:11.44 | purple_cow | looks like there's no way to easily raise the animation window on -n |
| 08:12.05 | ChipX86 | this is sooo screwed up |
| 08:12.09 | ChipX86 | there's sometihng wrong with me |
| 08:12.15 | purple_cow | ? |
| 08:12.18 | ChipX86 | my comic |
| 08:12.26 | scanline | =) |
| 08:12.30 | scanline | hmmmmmmmmm |
| 08:13.30 | ChipX86 | soon |
| 08:14.13 | purple_cow | "ball bearings are sorta like...steel marbles" |
| 08:16.09 | scanline | so hmm |
| 08:20.49 | purple_cow | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:20.50 | purple_cow | make install-data-hook |
| 08:20.50 | purple_cow | make[3]: Entering directory `/home/jupiter/projects/navi-misc/fyre/data' |
| 08:20.50 | purple_cow | update-mime-database /usr/share/mime |
| 08:20.50 | purple_cow | *** |
| 08:20.51 | purple_cow | * Updating MIME database in /usr/share/mime... |
| 08:20.52 | purple_cow | *** |
| 08:20.54 | purple_cow | update-desktop-database |
| 08:20.56 | purple_cow | make[3]: Leaving directory `/home/jupiter/projects/navi-misc/fyre/data' |
| 08:21.07 | purple_cow | =D |
| 08:21.13 | scanline | :) |
| 08:23.06 | scanline | http://navi.cx/~micah/fyre-unfiled/meta-histogram.png |
| 08:23.20 | purple_cow | crazy bastard |
| 08:23.39 | scanline | X axis is HistogramImager density, scaled from 0 to the peak |
| 08:23.54 | scanline | y axis is logarithmic |
| 08:24.07 | scanline | it's interesting seeing the behavior of different types of images |
| 08:24.18 | scanline | blurring of course cuts off the tail on the right side almost completely |
| 08:24.28 | scanline | spirals usually have gigantic and really thin tails on the right side |
| 08:26.01 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r6764 10fyre/ (TODO data/Makefile.am): progress |
| 08:32.28 | scanline | ooh |
| 08:32.35 | purple_cow | hahahaha |
| 08:32.36 | scanline | this I'm starting to like |
| 08:32.36 | ChipX86 | I'm screwed up |
| 08:32.38 | ChipX86 | http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/14919944/ |
| 08:32.41 | purple_cow | this is the episode with the voice-guided missile |
| 08:33.12 | purple_cow | ChipX86: =D |
| 08:33.18 | purple_cow | that's awesome |
| 08:33.19 | scanline | haha |
| 08:34.15 | scanline | this prototype is so cute |
| 08:34.39 | rioter | haha |
| 08:35.00 | rioter | this job ad has as a benifit, office close to many many pubs |
| 08:37.51 | purple_cow | west, 2 meters! |
| 08:38.13 | scanline | hehe |
| 08:39.34 | purple_cow | yay |
| 08:39.45 | purple_cow | i have SO many clean clothes |
| 08:43.07 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r6765 10fyre/ (TODO configure.ac data/Makefile.am): only install .desktop/xdg-mime stuff if we can |
| 08:43.30 | scanline | ooh, zoomy-histogram |
| 08:43.42 | ChipX86 | yay, Amanda drew me |
| 08:43.43 | ChipX86 | http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/14919752/ |
| 08:43.52 | scanline | hehe |
| 08:43.53 | scanline | nice |
| 08:44.21 | purple_cow | yay, chippy fanart |
| 08:44.24 | purple_cow | we need more of that |
| 08:44.39 | scanline | hmm, lots o' wild and crazy aliasing |
| 08:44.48 | ChipX86 | it was done on a tablet |
| 08:44.55 | scanline | no, in my histogram :) |
| 08:45.01 | scanline | the picture looks great |
| 08:45.06 | ChipX86 | oh |
| 08:50.49 | purple_cow | urgh |
| 08:50.57 | purple_cow | this episode includes so much pseudoscience it hurts |
| 08:51.26 | purple_cow | apparently dreams can predict the future because the brain is organizing things into patterns which can provide us with a "map" of something |
| 08:54.14 | scanline | hrm |
| 08:54.39 | scanline | this method works really well in the early stages of rendering, and it never blows up, but it doesn't provide nearly enough informaion once the image is pretty high quality |
| 08:56.51 | scanline | hmmmmmmm |
| 08:57.17 | scanline | a really simple but maybe-effective solution would be to use "usable density" as the stopping condition |
| 08:58.41 | scanline | that would require very little change, since it acts pretty much just like peak density, but it's limited to what we're actually going to output |
| 08:59.40 | purple_cow | ooh, "dream code" |
| 09:00.34 | scanline | bleh, that still doesn't perform as well as I'dlike |
| 09:02.43 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03micah 07fyre-meta-histograms * r6766 10/ (. src/explorer.c src/histogram-imager.c): |
| 09:02.43 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: Add some really experimental code that creates and graphically displays a 1-D |
| 09:02.43 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: histogram of HistogramImager bucket values, from 0 to the current usable |
| 09:02.43 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: density, with a log scale. Right now this is just a toy for experimenting with |
| 09:02.43 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: new stopping conditions. |
| 09:06.09 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r6767 10fyre/data/Makefile.am: fix |
| 09:06.39 | scanline | are you already tagging and such, or should I do that? |
| 09:06.59 | purple_cow | i'm running distchecks |
| 09:07.03 | scanline | k |
| 09:09.55 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r6768 10fyre/src/Makefile.am: dist gui-util.h |
| 09:10.37 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r6769 10fyre/configure.ac: bump version numbers |
| 09:11.57 | scanline | yay, bump |
| 09:14.16 | purple_cow | hmm |
| 09:14.16 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03micah * r6770 10fyre/build/ (win32-cross win32-cross-configure): For completeness, add the scripts I use to set up the cross-compiler environment |
| 09:14.31 | purple_cow | i autodiscovered and it found :ffff:10.0.0.1 and :ffff:10.0.0.53 |
| 09:14.38 | scanline | hmm |
| 09:14.43 | scanline | is it working? |
| 09:14.46 | purple_cow | yep |
| 09:14.55 | purple_cow | looks like i'm done for 0.9 |
| 09:14.58 | scanline | I guess gnet uses ipv6 addresses if it can |
| 09:15.08 | scanline | I'm doing a win32 build real quick just to make sure nothing broke |
| 09:15.12 | scanline | then we can tag =D |
| 09:16.05 | scanline | yay, "Fyre 0.9.lnk" |
| 09:17.42 | scanline | looks good to me |
| 09:17.52 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r6771 10fyre/web/index.shtml: draft an announcement |
| 09:18.39 | purple_cow | hmm. i s'pose i need to do freshmeat and gnomefiles announcements |
| 09:18.42 | scanline | we should link to the individual files methinks |
| 09:19.09 | scanline | make it clear that the .tar.gz is source, the .zip is windows self-contained, and the .exe is a windows installer |
| 09:20.32 | scanline | hmm.. features to emphasize... GUI improvements, cluster autodetection, and bugfixes? |
| 09:20.41 | scanline | "and more" |
| 09:21.02 | purple_cow | scanline: mmk. go ahead and do whatever change you want to web ;) |
| 09:21.10 | scanline | k |
| 09:23.25 | purple_cow | hah. i like how freshmeat lets you put in URLs for every OS except win32 :P |
| 09:24.17 | scanline | I guess I can go ahead and upload the windows build to flapjack |
| 09:24.36 | scanline | haha |
| 09:24.50 | scanline | he spills a beer on the keyboard and the monitor goes all smokey and broken |
| 09:25.28 | purple_cow | scanline: `make dist' whenever you're ready ;) |
| 09:26.44 | scanline | yes |
| 09:26.49 | scanline | should be up already |
| 09:26.54 | scanline | and .zip |
| 09:28.51 | scanline | the source will be fyre-0.9.tar.gz? |
| 09:29.08 | purple_cow | yeah. can you put up a .bz2 as well? |
| 09:31.14 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03micah * r6772 10fyre/web/index.shtml: Webically enhance the 0.9 release a little |
| 09:31.26 | purple_cow | oww |
| 09:31.39 | scanline | ow |
| 09:32.27 | scanline | hmm, make dist |
| 09:32.28 | scanline | fancy |
| 09:33.04 | scanline | heh, the bz2 isn't much smaller |
| 09:33.35 | scanline | yay for make dist making it easy to leave out the gigantic 'build' directory |
| 09:34.13 | scanline | cool |
| 09:34.46 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r6773 10fyre/ChangeLog: hold the presses! include today's date |
| 09:34.56 | scanline | ah |
| 09:35.39 | purple_cow | wow. this will be the first fyre release where navi doesn't get hammered at all |
| 09:35.55 | scanline | hmm, the windows release doesn't include changelog |
| 09:36.02 | scanline | I should probably fix that |
| 09:36.38 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03micah * r6774 10fyre/build/dist-win32.sh: Add ChangeLog to ALL_DOCS |
| 09:37.11 | purple_cow | scanline: i assume it's safe to tell freshmeat now? |
| 09:37.21 | scanline | not quite |
| 09:37.32 | scanline | redoing all the builds to include a new changelog :P |
| 09:37.34 | purple_cow | freshmeat's announcements are delayed. URLs are all valid? |
| 09:37.37 | scanline | ah |
| 09:37.37 | scanline | yes |
| 09:37.43 | purple_cow | cool beans |
| 09:38.57 | scanline | there went the .tar.gz and .tar.bz2 |
| 09:42.39 | purple_cow | hurray |
| 09:42.40 | purple_cow | http://gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=702 |
| 09:43.25 | scanline | yay |
| 09:44.00 | purple_cow | arg! |
| 09:44.05 | purple_cow | svn: Can't open file '.svn/lock': Permission denied |
| 09:44.10 | scanline | whoops |
| 09:44.34 | scanline | updated, and the perms should be fixed |
| 09:45.04 | *** topic/#tacobeam by purple_cow -> Thank you for not sneezing. || For all you Fyre junkies, 0.9! woooo! |
| 09:45.30 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03micah 07fyre-0.9 * r6775 10/: Tag the Fyre 0.9 release |
| 09:46.05 | purple_cow | so, i suggest we call 1.0 1.0.0 |
| 09:46.24 | purple_cow | so we can do maintainence releases as 1.0.1 (if necessary) and 2.0 development as 1.1.x |
| 09:46.41 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03micah * r6776 10fyre/build/upload-release.sh: Change the upload directory for svn versions to 'snapshots' |
| 09:46.42 | scanline | sounds good |
| 09:47.29 | scanline | yay, the Fyre 0.9 on my laptop has a changelog |
| 09:48.03 | *** join/#tacobeam Samy (~samy@212.76.88.101) |
| 09:48.45 | scanline | not a bad weekend for fyre |
| 09:48.47 | scanline | :) |
| 09:49.09 | purple_cow | not at all :) |
| 09:49.54 | scanline | g'night |
| 09:54.19 | scanline | hmm |
| 09:54.36 | scanline | flapjack had a bit of a swap spike this morning, but the CIA restarter kicked in nice and fast |
| 09:57.22 | scanline | woo, the downloads are starting to roll in |
| 10:00.39 | scanline | bleh, should have been to sleep ages ago |
| 10:02.41 | ChipX86 | same. g'night |
| 10:06.35 | scanline | whoa |
| 10:06.38 | scanline | fyre is already on freshmeat |
| 10:06.41 | scanline | that was fast |
| 10:12.14 | sbahra | FM doesn't generate that much bandwidth. :) |
| 10:15.28 | rioter | http://www.9news.com/acm_news.aspx?OSGNAME=KUSA&IKOBJECTID=e3cf0639-0abe-421a-00d2-832b5478fd7b&TEMPLATEID=0c76dce6-ac1f-02d8-0047-c589c01ca7bf |
| 10:15.33 | rioter | i love your judicial system |
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| 16:33.47 | darth_mall | guess I'd best be off to that class doodad |
| 16:35.06 | scanline | hrm |
| 16:35.10 | scanline | physics midterm tomorrow |
| 16:40.21 | *** join/#tacobeam pagefault (~pagefault@66.199.241.90) |
| 16:43.04 | pagefault | yay for broken SOCKS 5 support in xchat |
| 16:43.23 | scanline | eww, SOCKS |
| 16:43.45 | pagefault | only way I can get around port blocking here |
| 16:49.04 | ToyKeeper | You can't just ssh tunnel to, say, an outside proxy? |
| 16:49.43 | *** join/#tacobeam JeffM2501 (~JeffM@Patlabor221.active.supporter.pdpc) |
| 16:52.03 | pagefault | yeah |
| 16:52.20 | pagefault | but I use the socks server for other apps |
| 16:52.41 | pagefault | I have an application I use in windows that captures winsock activity and tunnels it over the SOCKS server |
| 16:54.03 | *** join/#tacobeam TD[gone] (~mike@foghorn.codeweavers.com) |
| 17:05.42 | darth_mall | blargh |
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| 17:10.26 | purple_cow | eeeeeeeeeeeeee |
| 17:10.37 | scanline | ee! |
| 17:10.53 | scanline | hm? |
| 17:11.18 | ToyKeeper | purple_cow: something different in your pants today? |
| 17:12.32 | purple_cow | ToyKeeper: always, but that's not why i'm excited ;) |
| 17:16.19 | scanline | http://flapjack.navi.cx/monitor/traffic/eth0.html |
| 17:16.41 | purple_cow | :) |
| 17:18.04 | darth_mall | why is school so boring |
| 17:18.20 | darth_mall | purple_cow: did your laptop come already? |
| 17:20.31 | purple_cow | it's at my parents' house |
| 17:20.48 | purple_cow | i'm gonna go get it booting with my mom's docking station tonight and then finish up the gentoo install here |
| 17:20.57 | scanline | ooh |
| 17:21.01 | scanline | fyre over rdesktop over ssh |
| 17:21.57 | scanline | and gtk is having all sorts of font errors |
| 17:22.21 | scanline | but Excel can't find any fonts on this machine either, so I wouldn't be too quick to blame fyre... |
| 17:23.17 | kergoth | ~lart mornings |
| 17:24.29 | scanline | ooh, a "sophisticated digital oscilloscope" |
| 17:25.18 | darth_mall | purple_cow: you're a naughty puppy |
| 17:26.29 | scanline | and xchat-gnome |
| 17:26.30 | TD | scanline needs fyre autopackages |
| 17:26.43 | darth_mall | I wonder if strangling an obnoxious math teacher is truly a crime |
| 17:28.50 | purple_cow | depends on the jury you get |
| 17:29.24 | purple_cow | yikes, i need to be leaving |
| 17:30.16 | scanline | TD[gone]: yep |
| 17:30.19 | scanline | oh no |
| 17:30.22 | scanline | purple_cow will miss the coffeee |
| 17:31.12 | purple_cow | :( |
| 17:32.35 | scanline | hmm |
| 17:32.48 | scanline | aquarius.colorado.edu is a decently fast fyre node |
| 17:35.54 | darth_mall | mooooooooooooooooo |
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| 17:44.01 | darth_mall | school gives me the brain worms |
| 17:44.34 | kergoth | i really shoudlnt be allowed to use email before my caffeine |
| 17:44.52 | darth_mall | I shouldn't be allowed to go to class |
| 17:45.04 | kergoth | darth_mall: you're not allowed! bad darth_mall! |
| 17:45.06 | kergoth | there. |
| 17:48.42 | kergoth | Platform (where POV-Ray is executed)Time (in minutes:seconds) |
| 17:48.42 | kergoth | Native Linux39:23 |
| 17:48.42 | kergoth | coLinux39:26 |
| 17:48.43 | kergoth | VMWare40:53 |
| 17:48.52 | kergoth | heh, unsurprising, but good to see numbers |
| 17:49.26 | kergoth | ow |
| 17:49.35 | darth_mall | no, in a good way |
| 17:49.40 | kergoth | oh, okay then |
| 17:54.11 | hardwire | I use an electric |
| 17:54.20 | hardwire | I tried my old shick razor yesterday |
| 17:54.21 | hardwire | and lost |
| 17:54.28 | hardwire | sticking yto my electric |
| 17:54.30 | scanline | I use an electric too |
| 17:54.36 | hardwire | I think the cold makes all my bumps stand up |
| 17:54.40 | scanline | hehe |
| 17:54.42 | hardwire | wtf how did you lose? |
| 17:55.01 | scanline | didn't lose any blood, lost my somewhat patchy beard |
| 17:55.07 | hardwire | haha |
| 17:55.09 | hardwire | sorry |
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| 17:55.25 | scanline | it was somewhat intentional, but I'd rather blame the razor ;) |
| 17:55.25 | pagefault | wee |
| 17:55.36 | hardwire | when I was a kid I slipped and fell on the same toilet .. two different times in a year.. |
| 17:55.44 | hardwire | I now hoave a bald spot from it on my chin |
| 17:55.58 | scanline | hehe |
| 17:55.59 | hardwire | 2 generations of scar tissue in the exact same spot. |
| 17:56.31 | hardwire | the person who was babysitting me was a little disturbed that I was yet again dancing in the bathroom when the floor was wet |
| 17:56.40 | scanline | hah |
| 17:58.12 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03micah * r6777 10fyre/src/main.c: Fix a really stupid bug that somehow made it into 0.9- forgot a \n in the --help text |
| 17:58.25 | slimspace | scanline: pokety poke |
| 17:58.32 | scanline | wibbly wobble? |
| 17:58.43 | hardwire | xp can bite me |
| 17:58.45 | slimspace | are you coming in today? |
| 17:58.46 | hardwire | windows can bite me |
| 17:58.54 | scanline | slimspace: uhhuh, after my lab |
| 17:59.01 | slimspace | cool |
| 17:59.28 | scanline | yeah.. somehow I spent all weekend on Fyre 0.9 |
| 17:59.39 | scanline | got lots to do on those abstracts and maybe my senior project this week |
| 17:59.56 | slimspace | mmm...well, I figure the abstracts shouldn't be too hard |
| 18:00.09 | scanline | and fyre 0.9 rocks :) |
| 18:00.10 | darth_mall | scanline: how come you're not here showin' us the love? |
| 18:00.17 | hardwire | I really really want to be able to suspend my goddamn laptop |
| 18:00.18 | hardwire | easily |
| 18:00.20 | scanline | darth_mall: lab at noon, need to do the pre-lab :P |
| 18:00.21 | darth_mall | loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooove |
| 18:00.25 | darth_mall | looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooove |
| 18:00.30 | scanline | yep |
| 18:03.21 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03micah * r6778 10fyre/BUGS: Add a couple small cluster autodetection bugs |
| 18:03.33 | scanline | releases are great for finding bugs |
| 18:03.41 | scanline | due to murphy's law, you find most of them right after a release |
| 18:04.08 | kergoth | indeed |
| 18:04.19 | darth_mall | mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm |
| 18:04.40 | darth_mall | The Sinking Ships are so comforting sometimes |
| 18:09.20 | darth_mall | slimspace is giving me weird looks |
| 18:18.28 | pagefault | http://broken.typepad.com/.shared/image.html?/photos/uncategorized/shower_w.JPG |
| 18:23.16 | scanline | pagefault: huh... |
| 18:23.38 | CIA-5 | spacegrant: 03evan * r923 10mck/PyMCK/Test/sgp4_dat2.py: |
| 18:23.38 | CIA-5 | spacegrant: Found more problems in the spreadsheet. I have a feeling I'm going |
| 18:23.38 | CIA-5 | spacegrant: to be finding lots of problems later related to this one... |
| 18:23.49 | pagefault | scanline: it looks funny |
| 18:23.58 | pagefault | When shower is turned off, the temperature resets to cold, no matter what temperature it was at (i.e, super hot) |
| 18:24.06 | pagefault | To get hot again, you must turn it back to cold and back up to hot, to prevent scalding if yo utake a shower after someone else who left it on hot |
| 18:24.16 | scanline | crazy |
| 18:27.07 | darth_mall | also moo |
| 18:27.39 | pagefault | damnit |
| 18:27.44 | pagefault | I hate it when smokers sit down next to me |
| 18:27.45 | pagefault | they reeek |
| 18:29.20 | scanline | yep |
| 18:29.53 | scanline | <Rande> oh, and I also put a try/except/pass around the copy as freevo crashes when it can't chmod files on a VFAT partition. |
| 18:29.57 | scanline | <Rande> (I'm using VFAT because it can be very efficient in storage. I'm using 0.5M cluster size and I get to use almost all the space for data on my video drive) |
| 18:30.15 | scanline | why is #freevo filled with weirdos who use FAT and DXR3s and stuff? |
| 18:30.27 | darth_mall | pagefault: yeah |
| 18:30.50 | darth_mall | pagefault: the trick is to date a smoker, then at least her brand will smell good to you |
| 18:30.55 | darth_mall | assuming you have a good time with her ^^ |
| 18:30.58 | pagefault | haha |
| 18:31.07 | darth_mall | if you don't, then it actually exacerbates the problem |
| 18:31.14 | pagefault | I don't know if I could date a smoker |
| 18:31.23 | darth_mall | my first girlfriend was a smoker |
| 18:31.23 | pagefault | i'd have to like her a lot |
| 18:31.43 | darth_mall | so anyone that smokes her brand or something similar enough doesn't bother me too much |
| 18:31.53 | pagefault | not to nuts about kissing someone with cigarette breath |
| 18:32.16 | darth_mall | it's not so terrible |
| 18:34.36 | pagefault | ah well, I guess if you really like them it doesn't matter too much |
| 18:34.56 | darth_mall | that's the idear ;) |
| 18:35.14 | darth_mall | just ask slimspace, he knows |
| 18:35.52 | pagefault | hehe |
| 18:35.53 | scanline | silly prelab, making me calculate capacitances rather than guesstimating |
| 18:37.28 | darth_mall | scanline: place it in the palm of your hand and smack it smartly |
| 18:40.24 | pagefault | hmm |
| 18:40.26 | pagefault | this is sort of cool |
| 18:40.30 | pagefault | need more blue though |
| 18:44.19 | pagefault | I wish you could rotate it the other way though |
| 18:46.21 | CIA-5 | spacegrant: 03evan * r924 10mck/PyMCK/Test/sgp4_dat2.py: Completed long period periodics. |
| 18:48.37 | pagefault | hehe |
| 18:51.23 | pagefault | ooh a blue glowing org type thingy |
| 18:59.40 | pagefault | that sucks |
| 19:03.30 | kergoth | my boss wasnt too happy about it either, told me to feel free to go over his head on it if necessary |
| 19:03.33 | kergoth | heh |
| 19:05.10 | pagefault | you going to do anything? |
| 19:05.26 | kergoth | doubtful, since i'm looking for another position anyway |
| 19:05.31 | kergoth | hardly worth my time |
| 19:05.33 | hardwire | god damn dirty duck fucking bastards. |
| 19:05.52 | pagefault | yeah |
| 19:06.00 | kergoth | and the poor ducks :\ |
| 19:06.35 | hardwire | the poor damn ducks |
| 19:07.04 | pagefault | what the fuck |
| 19:07.11 | pagefault | some asshole just unplugged my notebook |
| 19:07.13 | pagefault | and put his in |
| 19:07.26 | pagefault | brb |
| 19:07.31 | darth_mall | lol |
| 19:07.37 | darth_mall | that's pretty rude |
| 19:07.48 | darth_mall | hardwire: duck fucking bastards, eh? |
| 19:07.56 | darth_mall | yay ChipX86 is up! |
| 19:08.14 | ChipX86 | meh *grumble grumble* mehh |
| 19:08.24 | kergoth | ChipX86: indeed |
| 19:08.27 | darth_mall | ChipX86: well, -I'm- glad you're up |
| 19:08.38 | ChipX86 | working from home today I guess |
| 19:08.48 | ChipX86 | slept in til 11, and it's raining outside, and I'm not even motivated enough to shower |
| 19:09.02 | pagefault | wow |
| 19:09.05 | pagefault | what a fucking asshole |
| 19:09.12 | darth_mall | pagefault: did you kick him in the junk? |
| 19:09.24 | darth_mall | junk-kicking often fixes assholes |
| 19:09.29 | ChipX86 | yay, Rules for Dating #1 are now two people's favorites! |
| 19:09.31 | pagefault | no but some other people saw him do it |
| 19:09.36 | pagefault | and it got ugly |
| 19:09.38 | kergoth | Rules for dating #1? |
| 19:09.58 | pagefault | so basically he got up and left |
| 19:10.14 | ChipX86 | http://www.deviantart.com/view/14919944/ |
| 19:10.33 | pagefault | he was all like "I have something due in 30 minutes I need the power now" |
| 19:10.42 | pagefault | and I was "well thats too bad bud, I was here first" |
| 19:11.02 | hardwire | so |
| 19:11.06 | hardwire | I had a dream I bought a palm pilot |
| 19:11.08 | hardwire | it was amazing |
| 19:11.34 | pagefault | haha |
| 19:11.41 | pagefault | what kind whas it? |
| 19:12.13 | pagefault | man |
| 19:12.14 | pagefault | wtf |
| 19:12.15 | pagefault | brb |
| 19:12.26 | darth_mall | ChipX86: you're strange |
| 19:12.44 | darth_mall | and I definitely approve |
| 19:12.53 | pagefault | this guy is a huge asshole |
| 19:12.56 | pagefault | he just did it again to someone else |
| 19:13.12 | hardwire | it was the new one |
| 19:13.13 | hardwire | you know |
| 19:13.13 | hardwire | hehe |
| 19:13.34 | pagefault | hehe |
| 19:13.43 | pagefault | did it suck when you woke up and you didn't have it? |
| 19:14.33 | pagefault | bah |
| 19:14.38 | pagefault | I forgot to charge my cell phone |
| 19:15.18 | darth_mall | quick! pagefault needs a thunderstorm for his cell phone! |
| 19:15.36 | pagefault | hehe |
| 19:15.40 | pagefault | I should have brought my USB cable |
| 19:16.51 | CIA-5 | openembedded: 03kergoth 07 * r1.3140.2.1 10openembedded/ (4 files in 3 dirs): |
| 19:16.51 | CIA-5 | openembedded: Add linux-colinux 2.6.10 (colinux 0.6.2), and create a 'colinuxoe' distro, for |
| 19:16.51 | CIA-5 | openembedded: now just behaving like OZ, and defining whether it wants 2.4 or a 2.6 kernel, |
| 19:16.51 | CIA-5 | openembedded: since that's generally best left in the hands of the distribution. |
| 19:17.27 | pagefault | where is wifipower when you need it |
| 19:19.10 | pagefault | yay bad hair! |
| 19:20.09 | darth_mall | rar! |
| 19:20.12 | darth_mall | stupid crappy gnumeric |
| 19:20.15 | darth_mall | ~lart gnumeric |
| 19:20.30 | ChipX86 | uh oh, 6 bugs |
| 19:21.53 | pagefault | which is cool until some moron sends me a MS Word 2003 document |
| 19:23.00 | ChipX86 | yay, my package is in oakland |
| 19:23.11 | hardwire | my package is in my pants. |
| 19:23.18 | hardwire | who did you piss off? |
| 19:23.32 | ChipX86 | hilarious |
| 19:23.47 | hardwire | my knee slapped me.. |
| 19:23.59 | kergoth | ChipX86: seen the perf #s in http://www-106.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-colinux/?ca=dgr-lnxw09HeteroCluster comparing vmware to colinux for running linux on windows? |
| 19:24.13 | kergoth | unsurprising, of course, but actual numbers are always useful |
| 19:24.31 | kergoth | see the section on 'Choosing the emulator/virtual machine' |
| 19:25.44 | darth_mall | blaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah |
| 19:25.49 | kergoth | yep |
| 19:26.02 | pagefault | colinux is pretty cool |
| 19:26.22 | kergoth | i was tempted to call the colinux distro in OE coolinux |
| 19:26.22 | ChipX86 | interesting |
| 19:26.30 | kergoth | then i smacked myself and went back to being productive |
| 19:26.32 | ChipX86 | I love though how they assume they know how VMware does things |
| 19:26.36 | kergoth | ChipX86: nod |
| 19:26.41 | ChipX86 | I just fouind out the other day that my assumptions were wrong |
| 19:27.08 | pagefault | vmware can emulate an "ethernet cart" |
| 19:27.08 | pagefault | cool |
| 19:27.10 | pagefault | I want one |
| 19:27.13 | pagefault | maybe I can drive it around |
| 19:27.15 | kergoth | hah |
| 19:27.41 | pagefault | or maybe they were trying to run it on a C64 |
| 19:29.48 | *** join/#tacobeam Samy (~samy@212.76.88.101) |
| 19:30.06 | ChipX86 | heck, I can get you a copy for $50 |
| 19:30.18 | ChipX86 | special deal for friends and family |
| 19:30.30 | pagefault | thats pretty good |
| 19:30.31 | darth_mall | wow... that was impressively stupid |
| 19:30.33 | ChipX86 | wait for WS5 though |
| 19:30.35 | pagefault | I need to buy a destroy mornings shirt first though |
| 19:30.53 | darth_mall | there's a -HUGE- difference between foo % pi and foo % 2*pi |
| 19:31.03 | pagefault | mmm pie |
| 19:31.09 | ChipX86 | I want pie |
| 19:31.25 | darth_mall | I think it's a sign from the gods that I should quit school and sell pigeons for a living |
| 19:31.26 | darth_mall | door to door |
| 19:31.55 | kergoth | darth_mall: good plan |
| 19:34.25 | ChipX86 | wow |
| 19:34.43 | ChipX86 | that's neat. Search for vino on google. Note the new image thing |
| 19:36.56 | TD | ChipX86_: hm? |
| 19:36.59 | TD | ChipX86: what do you see? |
| 19:37.10 | pagefault | I don't see anything |
| 19:37.14 | pagefault | just product search |
| 19:37.15 | pagefault | is that new? |
| 19:37.28 | ChipX86 | there's two images of the product on the front page |
| 19:37.42 | ChipX86 | huh |
| 19:37.44 | pagefault | maybe you got random beta tested |
| 19:37.47 | pagefault | google likes to do that |
| 19:37.58 | Samy | Yeah. Nothing special here. |
| 19:39.09 | ChipX86 | http://osiris.chipx86.com/google_image.png |
| 19:40.39 | Samy | TIGHT YO |
| 19:40.50 | Samy | but not so intuitive. |
| 19:40.58 | ChipX86 | I like it |
| 19:41.09 | ChipX86 | heh |
| 19:41.15 | ChipX86 | a search for porn doesn't do it. A search for anime does |
| 19:41.28 | ChipX86 | a search for galago does too :) |
| 19:41.30 | Samy | http://gtc.mm.st/drugs.jpg |
| 19:42.16 | TD | i don't see that |
| 19:42.27 | TD | oh well |
| 19:42.29 | TD | not a big loss :) |
| 19:42.42 | TD | weird |
| 19:42.49 | TD | my fonts have gone ugly in some cases, for no obvious reason |
| 19:42.56 | TD | actually it happened after i played with xorg/composite |
| 19:43.00 | TD | but that's all been reset now. hrm |
| 19:46.41 | hardwire | yay |
| 19:47.21 | darth_mall | blargh |
| 19:50.27 | ChipX86 | who here uses vino? |
| 19:52.17 | TD | vino the VNC server? |
| 19:52.21 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 19:52.23 | darth_mall | brain |
| 19:52.33 | darth_mall | actually, I guess I use vino a little |
| 19:52.36 | darth_mall | not much |
| 19:53.13 | scanline | sweeet |
| 19:53.15 | scanline | these dell machines in the ITS lab run fyre really nicely |
| 19:53.17 | scanline | 3e6 or so |
| 19:53.21 | scanline | and their fans all come on full blast :) |
| 19:53.23 | scanline | quite loud |
| 19:53.37 | scanline | it's nice and responsive under windows when you have a fast machine |
| 19:53.43 | darth_mall | scanline: ^^ |
| 19:53.45 | ChipX86 | got it! |
| 19:53.58 | darth_mall | scanline: you need to come here cuz slimspace just left |
| 19:54.00 | ChipX86 | nice :) |
| 19:54.01 | darth_mall | now I'm all alone and sad |
| 19:54.03 | scanline | I should snag the two machines next to me and make a cluster |
| 19:54.13 | scanline | darth_mall: I'm coming after I play with this :) |
| 19:54.18 | scanline | damn |
| 19:54.20 | darth_mall | ='( |
| 19:54.23 | darth_mall | saaaaaaaaaaad |
| 19:54.24 | ChipX86 | it's fun vnc'ing to a dual-head setup from a single-head |
| 19:54.26 | scanline | it's like it has a bunch of fans in there and it keeps turning on more |
| 19:54.32 | Samy | ChipX86: haha |
| 19:55.05 | ChipX86 | haha |
| 19:55.05 | ChipX86 | (11:54:38) Christian: haha |
| 19:55.07 | ChipX86 | (11:54:44) Christian: just now got vino working |
| 19:55.09 | ChipX86 | oops |
| 19:55.14 | ChipX86 | (11:54:34) Regis: Mummy, his box is haunted :) |
| 19:55.19 | pagefault | torrentflux is cool |
| 19:55.42 | scanline | nooooooooooo |
| 19:55.53 | scanline | these computers have a firewall that automatically bloked fyre =( |
| 19:56.04 | ChipX86 | which computers? |
| 19:56.18 | scanline | campus lab full of fast dell machines |
| 19:56.34 | darth_mall | yes |
| 19:56.40 | scanline | but damn these machines run fyre fast |
| 19:56.46 | pagefault | firewall? |
| 19:56.59 | scanline | pagefault: some windows firewall thing that can only be disabled by an admin |
| 19:57.13 | scanline | fyre kinda needs a TCP socket to do its clustering thing |
| 19:57.21 | scanline | ooh, the fans start up again |
| 19:57.25 | darth_mall | sockets are for suckers |
| 19:57.27 | scanline | this lab was so quiet until I started running fyre |
| 19:57.49 | scanline | wowza |
| 19:57.52 | scanline | the about box runs super-fast |
| 19:58.07 | pagefault | scanline: thats pretty lame |
| 19:58.07 | scanline | and makes the computer even louder |
| 19:58.32 | pagefault | fyre runs pretty good on my notebook |
| 19:58.38 | scanline | the no-installation-required .zip file is great for these computer labs |
| 19:58.48 | scanline | it'd probably also run great off of a USB drive |
| 19:59.13 | pagefault | you should add some sort of benchmark mode |
| 19:59.25 | scanline | that's what the "speed" thing in the status bar is |
| 19:59.27 | ChipX86 | I feel weird having someone watch me code like this |
| 19:59.34 | pagefault | oh |
| 19:59.37 | pagefault | hah |
| 19:59.53 | pagefault | speed right now is 2.314e+006/sec |
| 20:00.06 | scanline | my desktop usually gets around 2e6 |
| 20:00.11 | scanline | this lab madhine is about 3.2e6 |
| 20:00.15 | scanline | er, machine |
| 20:00.19 | scanline | =) |
| 20:00.22 | pagefault | nice |
| 20:00.36 | scanline | man.. if it wasn't for this firewall I'd come in here early in the morning and make a kick-ass cluster |
| 20:00.38 | pagefault | what is it? 3ghz p4? |
| 20:00.43 | scanline | something like that |
| 20:01.02 | scanline | yep, 3.2GHz P4 |
| 20:01.05 | scanline | so fast.... |
| 20:01.15 | pagefault | ah we have like the same ones |
| 20:01.17 | pagefault | dells |
| 20:01.54 | pagefault | they have deepfreeze running on them for some reason though |
| 20:02.02 | pagefault | and that eats up a lot of cpu resources |
| 20:02.13 | TD | scanline: what's the svn url of fyre? |
| 20:02.15 | TD | i want to autopackage it |
| 20:02.16 | scanline | these are the weird thin upright cases |
| 20:02.24 | pagefault | yeah same |
| 20:02.25 | darth_mall | made from geese |
| 20:02.27 | scanline | TD: there's a fresh release on fyre.navi.cx |
| 20:02.37 | TD | cool |
| 20:02.50 | pagefault | dell must mass-distribute them to universities |
| 20:02.52 | scanline | if you get an 0.9 autopackage working I should host it on flapjack :) |
| 20:03.21 | pagefault | they are starting to replace the 19" CRTs in the lab with 17" LCD's though |
| 20:03.30 | scanline | damn these things get loud and cranky running fyre |
| 20:03.34 | scanline | and hot |
| 20:03.41 | darth_mall | wooooooooo |
| 20:03.43 | darth_mall | ;) |
| 20:03.45 | TD | we're not far away from 1.0 actually |
| 20:03.52 | TD | heh |
| 20:03.54 | TD | sure |
| 20:03.54 | scanline | TD: same with fyre :) |
| 20:04.27 | pagefault | someone wanted to know where I got my desktop wallpaper from |
| 20:04.33 | TD | hmmm |
| 20:04.33 | pagefault | earlier today |
| 20:04.35 | pagefault | I made it in fyre |
| 20:04.40 | scanline | :) |
| 20:04.43 | TD | scanline: openexr? where do i get that? |
| 20:04.48 | scanline | TD: it's from ILM |
| 20:05.01 | scanline | TD: if it's a pain I wouldn't worry about it, very few people are likely to care about the OpenEXR support |
| 20:05.04 | TD | essentially, where can i get the dependencies? i'll relaytool this |
| 20:05.18 | TD | well, i'll see. i'll make them recommended but optional |
| 20:05.22 | scanline | k |
| 20:05.24 | ChipX86 | what is OpenEXR? |
| 20:05.29 | TD | Not including clustering or remote control support |
| 20:05.30 | scanline | a high dynamic range image format |
| 20:05.30 | TD | is that gnet? |
| 20:05.33 | scanline | TD: tes |
| 20:05.35 | scanline | er, yes |
| 20:05.50 | scanline | clustering is quite nifty, so gnet would be good to force people to use ;) |
| 20:05.50 | TD | k |
| 20:06.03 | scanline | and it's pretty small |
| 20:06.06 | TD | i could statically link it, or make it an optional dependency |
| 20:06.08 | scanline | OpenEXR is a bit of a monster |
| 20:06.09 | TD | maybe static link then |
| 20:06.19 | scanline | yeah |
| 20:06.26 | scanline | aside from gnet, it just needs gtk and libglade and friends |
| 20:06.36 | scanline | mm |
| 20:06.46 | scanline | libwimp makes gtk fit in nicely with windows' look |
| 20:06.50 | darth_mall | uhoh... slimspace are back |
| 20:06.55 | slimspace | mmm hmm |
| 20:06.56 | scanline | oh cool |
| 20:07.07 | scanline | my RGBA icon for windows XP works |
| 20:07.10 | scanline | hadn't tested that |
| 20:08.54 | pagefault | eww baked lays suck |
| 20:09.34 | scanline | cool |
| 20:09.58 | scanline | rendering a 128x128 spiraling shape pretty fast :) |
| 20:10.29 | scanline | huh |
| 20:10.45 | scanline | the version of windows media player I have on my laptop lets you seek through these animations really smooth-like |
| 20:10.50 | scanline | this new one doesn't seek until you release the mouse |
| 20:11.30 | TD | that was odd |
| 20:11.34 | TD | i just got a phone call from lilo |
| 20:11.37 | scanline | ah well. I should let this machine cool off and try a small cluster at SG with darth_mall |
| 20:11.44 | TD | heh |
| 20:12.41 | TD | scanline: hey, it's got binreloc already. cool! :) |
| 20:15.22 | ChipX86 | gahh |
| 20:15.27 | ChipX86 | have any of you ever messed with gnomecanvas? |
| 20:18.23 | TD | scanline: the main window doesn't use the icon |
| 20:18.28 | TD | maybe a bug, not sure |
| 20:19.18 | TD | hah |
| 20:19.20 | TD | cool about box |
| 20:20.50 | darth_mall | TD: ^^ |
| 20:21.11 | TD | how would you describe it? Fyre Graphics Generator? |
| 20:23.20 | KeyserSoze | a phone call from lilo? the bootloader? or lilo of lilo&stitch, the disney movie? or a mistype of lalo? |
| 20:24.17 | ChipX86 | TD: he calls me every once in awhile |
| 20:24.23 | TD | as in the freenode admin. i filled out a form |
| 20:24.29 | darth_mall | TD: a chaotic map generator based on the De Jong equations? |
| 20:24.33 | TD | he was verifying i am who i say i am, for #autopackage ownership |
| 20:25.11 | pagefault | I need to put ubuntu on my crappy box tonight |
| 20:25.41 | pagefault | my "torrent box" |
| 20:26.45 | TD | scanline: it uses the new file selector but autoconf claims only gtk2.0 is needed |
| 20:26.52 | TD | runtime detection? |
| 20:28.32 | darth_mall | blargh |
| 20:28.48 | TD | n/m the icon does work |
| 20:29.22 | TD | ah, compile time detection |
| 20:29.52 | ChipX86 | I don't! |
| 20:30.01 | TD | i'll relaytool it, i think |
| 20:30.02 | ChipX86 | TD: did you see my comic? |
| 20:30.09 | TD | nope |
| 20:30.11 | TD | what comic? |
| 20:30.40 | TD | scanline: btw, the best way to use binreloc is to use replace FYRE_DATADIR type macros with BR_DATADIR everywhere, then only define ENABLE_BINRELOC if you want it |
| 20:30.46 | TD | if you don't it'll compile down to a static string |
| 20:31.02 | ChipX86 | http://www.deviantart.com/view/14919944/ |
| 20:31.49 | TD | actually for now i'll just make it into a package |
| 20:31.51 | TD | can improve it later |
| 20:33.00 | TD | ChipX86: you have a diseased imagination |
| 20:33.03 | TD | but a funny one |
| 20:33.17 | ChipX86 | :) |
| 20:33.51 | darth_mall | ChipX86: you crazy monkey boy |
| 20:35.23 | TD | scanline: it should probably be installing icons to the icon theme dirs i guess |
| 20:35.46 | TD | yeah, we need to fix that first |
| 20:35.55 | TD | i'll branch it from svn using svk then send you some patches |
| 20:36.53 | ChipX86 | I should put on some clothes sometime today |
| 20:38.22 | TD | god i love svk |
| 20:38.50 | darth_mall | I am so tired of this job right now |
| 20:39.30 | ChipX86 | hah |
| 20:39.42 | ChipX86 | Joey's not doing much work apparently. I'm getting all his bugs now |
| 20:43.38 | TD | purple_cow: any idea why you guys are using multiple .desktop files where one would do? |
| 20:44.03 | darth_mall | hehe... TD is just full of questions ^^ |
| 20:44.11 | TD | ah, i see, it needs magic command line options. hrm |
| 20:44.14 | TD | maybe that could be fixed too |
| 20:44.52 | TD | well no matter |
| 20:45.13 | scanline | TD: or you could just commit to navi-misc ;) |
| 20:45.23 | scanline | mmm.. fyre is such a joy to use interactively with a cluster |
| 20:45.34 | TD | sure, i can do that too. i'll email the patches to you guys and if you give them the OK i'll push them all |
| 20:45.41 | TD | actually the first one is a no brainer |
| 20:45.45 | scanline | or just commit ;) |
| 20:46.01 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03mike * r6779 10fyre/ (. data/Makefile.am): |
| 20:46.01 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: r130@littlegreen: mike | 2005-02-07 20:48:56 +0000 |
| 20:46.01 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: Don't fail to install even if update-* fail |
| 20:46.08 | scanline | fyre svn doesn't really need to be stable now that there's a recent release |
| 20:46.13 | TD | true |
| 20:46.13 | scanline | :) |
| 20:46.23 | TD | ok then. i'll just commit :) |
| 20:46.24 | scanline | mmm |
| 20:46.33 | scanline | damn, I wish I could try this on a cluster of those new dells |
| 20:46.44 | scanline | the speed I'm getting with four machines here is only twice what I got on one of them |
| 20:46.49 | purple_cow | yay, lots of coffee left |
| 20:49.21 | ChipX86 | Son of the Mask makes me sad |
| 20:49.25 | kergoth | heh |
| 20:49.28 | kergoth | it makes everyone sad |
| 20:49.39 | ChipX86 | that movie is doomed before it even hits the theaters |
| 20:50.10 | purple_cow | :) |
| 20:50.12 | scanline | it's so sad that all the machines around here have those windows XP firewalls... |
| 20:50.20 | scanline | I only got it working on the machines at SG because I have the admin password :P |
| 20:50.26 | darth_mall | ^^ |
| 20:50.49 | scanline | eek |
| 20:50.54 | scanline | fyre is crashing trying to open an image |
| 20:50.55 | scanline | in XP |
| 20:51.00 | Samy | I can donate one machine for fyre renders. |
| 20:51.12 | Samy | At school, PIII box, 512MB RAM, etc... |
| 20:51.21 | scanline | hah |
| 20:51.23 | purple_cow | hmm |
| 20:51.25 | Samy | Potentially two, not to count a lab (at after school hours). |
| 20:51.44 | Samy | So, one FreeBSD box, and around 30 from the lab I deal with. |
| 20:51.51 | scanline | huh |
| 20:51.55 | scanline | I just hit "send error report" |
| 20:51.58 | scanline | it sent it apparently |
| 20:52.00 | scanline | not sure who to.. |
| 20:52.02 | purple_cow | scanline: hehehe |
| 20:52.03 | Samy | and around 30 Windows machines that is. |
| 20:52.39 | scanline | ah, good |
| 20:52.41 | scanline | just this one |
| 20:53.33 | Samy | How many machines for this cluster scanline? |
| 20:54.08 | Samy | Hrm, maybe I can use the DF-BSD cluster as well. |
| 20:54.18 | Samy | To create one 50MB render :) |
| 20:54.25 | darth_mall | ugh |
| 20:54.36 | pagefault | hah |
| 20:54.42 | pagefault | I can donate a 500mhz machine :) |
| 20:55.19 | scanline | Samy: I don't really need it for anything in particular, I was just playing with it interactively |
| 20:55.28 | scanline | you really need to be on the same LAN as the cluster for that |
| 20:55.37 | scanline | ahhh |
| 20:55.47 | scanline | looks like the file open dialog crashes if fyre is installed to a network drive |
| 20:55.49 | Samy | scanline: Ouch, too bad. |
| 20:55.51 | scanline | it can't handle UNC paths |
| 20:55.55 | Samy | In regards to the clustering. |
| 20:55.56 | scanline | prolly a gtk bug |
| 20:56.10 | purple_cow | hmm, i still need a name |
| 20:56.11 | scanline | Samy: remote clusters are fine for offline renders, but purple_cow already has a really nice one for those :) |
| 20:56.29 | scanline | purple_cow: both are good :) |
| 20:56.34 | Samy | scanline: What's the biggest render you guys have done? |
| 20:56.42 | Samy | kirby |
| 20:56.47 | scanline | we've done some massive print-resolution images |
| 20:56.54 | scanline | don't recall the sizes exactly |
| 20:56.59 | Samy | I see. |
| 20:57.04 | pagefault | is the speed thing bugged when you move stuff around? |
| 20:57.11 | pagefault | I am getting 9.330e |
| 20:57.43 | purple_cow | Samy: biggest i've done is 7920x6120 |
| 20:57.50 | Samy | purple_cow: Nice. |
| 20:58.05 | purple_cow | most of the ones hanging up on our walls are that resolution (ish) |
| 20:58.17 | Samy | Are they framed? :) |
| 20:58.33 | Samy | because then that would look nice. |
| 20:58.57 | Samy | purple_cow: How do you have access to plotters? |
| 20:59.33 | pagefault | bbl |
| 20:59.45 | Samy | Cool though. |
| 20:59.52 | Samy | I'm out. |
| 21:00.00 | purple_cow | Samy: no plotters, just an inkjet with photo paper |
| 21:00.29 | purple_cow | no frames right now. we submitted 3 to the siggraph art gallery this year. if they get in, we'll need to have them framed all pretty-like |
| 21:08.48 | darth_mall | hmm... no team lead... |
| 21:15.48 | darth_mall | there he are |
| 21:16.03 | CIA-5 | spacegrant: 03maccarro * r925 10mck/ (3 files in 2 dirs): Added new devices into the satellite, support for relays to know about related sensors, and a brand new mon_pwr_sendall command for the power micro. |
| 21:18.44 | CIA-5 | spacegrant: 03evan * r926 10/trunk/ (4 files in 3 dirs): Grrr... more bad numbers. Bad numbers! go to your room! |
| 21:20.28 | purple_cow | yay for commits to YOUR_PROJECT_HERE |
| 21:20.39 | kergoth | hehe |
| 21:21.59 | scanline | hah |
| 21:22.10 | darth_mall | yep |
| 21:24.37 | darth_mall | I've got one in my room, not sure how old it is |
| 21:24.42 | darth_mall | but it's fairly recent |
| 21:24.48 | darth_mall | I think it's from the last time I did yomiko |
| 21:27.07 | scanline | purple_cow: looks like roughly 200 downloads of 0.9 so far |
| 21:27.16 | purple_cow | cool |
| 21:28.45 | scanline | gnomefiles does comments? |
| 21:28.49 | purple_cow | yep |
| 21:29.03 | scanline | oh, there they are |
| 21:29.07 | purple_cow | the email was surprisingly nice. the guy wanted to use a special input device (i told him about remote) and asked about flame fractals |
| 21:29.11 | purple_cow | he might even help with 2.0 :) |
| 21:30.09 | scanline | ah, cool |
| 21:30.17 | scanline | we need to try hooking remote mode up to the EFS :) |
| 21:31.00 | *** join/#tacobeam file[laptop] (~file_lapt@mctn1-1056.nb.aliant.net) |
| 21:31.42 | scanline | har.. series of PNGs... |
| 21:31.52 | purple_cow | uhhuh :P |
| 21:32.10 | scanline | now that the AVIs play under WMP they must be flawless ;) |
| 21:32.24 | scanline | at least, I haven't seen any tools complain about the format now |
| 21:32.34 | scanline | just that a lot of players don't do uncompressed frames |
| 21:33.20 | purple_cow | uhhuh |
| 21:33.23 | purple_cow | but mplayer does |
| 21:33.32 | scanline | yes |
| 21:33.37 | scanline | and transcode, WMP, probably others... |
| 21:33.44 | scanline | it'd be interesting to try a windows transcoding tool on it |
| 21:33.52 | scanline | those exist right? |
| 21:33.57 | purple_cow | sortof |
| 21:34.14 | purple_cow | uhhuh |
| 21:34.34 | scanline | yeah |
| 21:36.25 | darth_mall | I hate mondays |
| 21:36.28 | scanline | yes |
| 21:36.35 | scanline | at least my physics lab today was easy |
| 21:36.43 | scanline | got out of there in 45 minutes after building my own capacitor! |
| 21:36.57 | scanline | I think I was the only one doing an electronics lab.. most people chose mechanics labs |
| 21:36.59 | darth_mall | it's good that you built your own |
| 21:37.18 | scanline | well, if by building my own I mean stacking two lab-supplied aluminum plates |
| 21:37.23 | scanline | they did have a nice capacitance meter |
| 21:37.28 | scanline | and an old but good digital scope |
| 21:37.43 | scanline | their instructions for using the scope were painful :P |
| 21:38.30 | darth_mall | 1) pick up scope 2) insert scope in crotch of pants 3) plug scope in |
| 21:39.18 | darth_mall | 4) when scope is secured in crotch of pants, assault TA with bannana-filled rubber chicken |
| 21:39.38 | darth_mall | I should write labs for physics classes |
| 21:40.27 | kergoth | is today over yet? |
| 21:40.29 | kergoth | please? |
| 21:40.50 | file[laptop] | kergoth: nope |
| 21:40.53 | darth_mall | kergoth: I agree |
| 21:45.06 | scanline | darth_mall: =D |
| 21:53.36 | ChipX86 | I can't fix any bugs today |
| 21:53.41 | ChipX86 | it's one of those days :/ |
| 21:54.07 | kergoth | its monday |
| 21:54.16 | kergoth | monday is one of those days by definition |
| 21:54.23 | darth_mall | yup |
| 21:54.33 | kergoth | hell, monday is what most of "those days" aspire to be |
| 21:54.40 | darth_mall | in fact, it is the facist dictator that rules those days |
| 21:54.47 | kergoth | bastards |
| 21:56.37 | ChipX86 | "Christian, can you take this off of Joey's plate? Thanks." |
| 21:56.40 | ChipX86 | every one of my bugs says that |
| 21:56.53 | ChipX86 | I rarely see anything committed from Joey |
| 21:58.02 | darth_mall | blargh |
| 21:59.20 | CIA-5 | spacegrant: 03evan * r927 10/trunk/ (doc-misc/adcs/sgp4_test_cases.xls mck/PyMCK/ADCS/SGP4.py): |
| 21:59.20 | CIA-5 | spacegrant: Enough of this for one day. Some of these numbers are off |
| 21:59.20 | CIA-5 | spacegrant: by a miniscule amount. It could easily just be a difference |
| 21:59.20 | CIA-5 | spacegrant: between python and gnumeric. |
| 21:59.41 | file[laptop] | yay! home |
| 21:59.45 | scanline | oh no! |
| 22:09.42 | ChipX86 | wish our mail server would stop dying. |
| 22:11.09 | ChipX86 | yeah, can't even get into the e-mail now |
| 22:12.56 | *** join/#tacobeam pagefault (~pagefault@67.71.46.49) |
| 22:14.41 | file[laptop] | hi pagefault |
| 22:14.46 | pagefault | hello file |
| 22:17.41 | kergoth | bleh, stuck here for another.. 3 hours |
| 22:18.41 | ChipX86 | today sucks |
| 22:19.05 | file[laptop] | today isn't too bad for me |
| 22:19.10 | file[laptop] | found out I can take advanced computer science |
| 22:21.21 | pagefault | oook |
| 22:21.23 | pagefault | that was odd |
| 22:21.27 | pagefault | su didn't work |
| 22:21.30 | pagefault | so I did a sudo passwd |
| 22:21.35 | pagefault | and entered a new password |
| 22:22.16 | file[laptop] | hrm apparently students have e-mail through the school... |
| 22:23.16 | pagefault | bah |
| 22:23.20 | pagefault | ubuntu has no tvtime package |
| 22:23.24 | pagefault | oh well I will just use debian's |
| 22:29.14 | pagefault | yikes |
| 22:29.18 | pagefault | I need to do a lot of work on my ubuntu install |
| 22:29.25 | kergoth | alright, who stole my motivation. |
| 22:29.29 | pagefault | no zlib :/ |
| 22:29.47 | kergoth | no zlib? that doesnt make any sense. everybody uses zlib |
| 22:29.50 | kergoth | heh |
| 22:30.08 | pagefault | yeah |
| 22:30.38 | pagefault | unless |
| 22:30.39 | pagefault | ah yes |
| 22:30.41 | pagefault | ldconfig |
| 22:30.43 | kergoth | heh |
| 22:31.38 | pagefault | and I didn't have the development libraries |
| 22:31.44 | pagefault | they should have just installed that by default |
| 22:33.06 | pagefault | ah how I love apt-get |
| 22:41.19 | ChipX86 | damnit! |
| 22:41.22 | ChipX86 | I can't build vmware on ubuntu |
| 22:41.25 | ChipX86 | this day sucks |
| 22:47.45 | pagefault | I finally got tvtime built heh |
| 22:49.01 | pagefault | bah figures |
| 22:49.05 | pagefault | they don't have mplayer in apt |
| 22:52.44 | pagefault | hah |
| 22:52.47 | pagefault | I thought this firefox looked funny |
| 22:52.49 | pagefault | 0.9.3 |
| 22:53.20 | file[laptop] | oh good god my boss ordered servers |
| 22:53.26 | pagefault | what |
| 22:56.08 | ChipX86 | fuck it. |
| 22:56.13 | ChipX86 | I can't do a damn thing today |
| 22:56.26 | ChipX86 | vmware won't even build on ubuntu |
| 22:58.09 | TD | that sucks |
| 22:58.12 | TD | what build error? |
| 22:58.18 | ChipX86 | it's a bunch of kernel include file mess |
| 22:58.24 | TD | ugh, suck |
| 22:58.25 | ChipX86 | apparently not ubuntu-specific. Other distros have the problem too |
| 22:58.28 | ChipX86 | and not VMware-specific either |
| 22:58.35 | pagefault | blame linus |
| 22:58.43 | ChipX86 | I need to find out what Alex did about it, but he's not at his computer apparently |
| 22:59.07 | ChipX86 | absolutely nothing productive is getting done today |
| 22:59.16 | TD | one of those days |
| 22:59.23 | ChipX86 | yeah. |
| 22:59.27 | TD | ChipX86: do you understand icon theming? |
| 22:59.32 | ChipX86 | frustrating.. and I get all of Joey's bugs because he doesn't do anything. |
| 22:59.41 | ChipX86 | depends, what part of it? |
| 23:00.27 | TD | mimetype->icon association |
| 23:00.33 | TD | i understand it in theory. but nautilus ignores the icon |
| 23:00.45 | darth_mall | moo? |
| 23:00.52 | TD | it just shows me the FOOT OF DOOM |
| 23:05.59 | ChipX86 | dunno.. I've never messed with that really |
| 23:06.36 | TD | *pain* |
| 23:06.36 | darth_mall | ChipX86: Yup, spiral_brush makes a good wallpaper |
| 23:07.47 | ChipX86 | :) |
| 23:07.52 | ChipX86 | ahh, I think I was missing a package |
| 23:10.46 | scanline | TD: sounds like the same problem purple_cow was having |
| 23:10.57 | pagefault | almost 100% hoary |
| 23:10.59 | pagefault | weee |
| 23:11.25 | darth_mall | scanline, purple_cow: the french animation thingies are this week at IFS if you're interested |
| 23:13.25 | scanline | yay, IFS |
| 23:14.33 | purple_cow | yep, exactly the problem i was having |
| 23:14.39 | purple_cow | would be nice to get that figured out before 1.0 |
| 23:15.05 | TD | scanline: i think fedora and/or nautilus is buggy |
| 23:15.21 | TD | i seem to remember having this issue before with autopackage: in the end i just made it use a gnome stock icon and that worked |
| 23:16.02 | scanline | ah |
| 23:16.12 | scanline | prolly nautilus.. we get the same thing on gentoo |
| 23:16.25 | darth_mall | moo? |
| 23:16.31 | scanline | moo! |
| 23:16.34 | darth_mall | moo. |
| 23:16.42 | scanline | moo^^ |
| 23:16.48 | darth_mall | moo=) |
| 23:16.51 | purple_cow | TD: well, i never figured out how to insert our custom .fa icon for that mime type using shared-mime-info |
| 23:16.54 | scanline | moo>:) |
| 23:17.02 | purple_cow | the old mime-info stuff seemed to allow it, but nautilus in 2.8 doesn't use that afaict |
| 23:17.10 | darth_mall | moo;) |
| 23:17.31 | TD | purple_cow: it's supposed to be in $prefix/share/icons/hicolor/48x48/mimetypes AFAIK |
| 23:17.33 | TD | but it doesn't work |
| 23:17.39 | purple_cow | hmm |
| 23:18.33 | scanline | it seems to correctly find the RGBA version |
| 23:18.56 | scanline | well, it's purple_cow's icon :) |
| 23:19.03 | scanline | I just converted it to 34092653 different formats |
| 23:19.10 | darth_mall | scanline: no, I mean the icon for you |
| 23:19.15 | scanline | oh |
| 23:19.17 | scanline | yes |
| 23:19.18 | darth_mall | not an icon you made |
| 23:20.14 | purple_cow | haha! hahahaha! |
| 23:20.18 | scanline | hah! |
| 23:20.20 | darth_mall | mwahahahaha! |
| 23:20.23 | scanline | noooooooooooooo! |
| 23:20.25 | scanline | hahaha! |
| 23:20.28 | scanline | oh no! |
| 23:20.40 | purple_cow | TD: /usr/share/icons/gnome/48x48/mimetypes/gnome-mime-application-x-fyre-animation.png |
| 23:20.41 | purple_cow | :) |
| 23:20.48 | purple_cow | after a nautilus restart, i'm getting the right icon |
| 23:21.24 | TD | yeah |
| 23:21.34 | TD | but that's dumping stuff in the gnome icon theme :) |
| 23:21.41 | TD | i think it's just generally broken |
| 23:22.02 | purple_cow | is that bad? i see rhythmbox icons there :P |
| 23:23.09 | TD | well ... "third party" apps are meant to use hicolor |
| 23:23.12 | TD | that way it works for kde too |
| 23:23.41 | ChipX86 | yep |
| 23:23.49 | ChipX86 | the whole icontheme stuff is a mess anyway. |
| 23:23.57 | darth_mall | ChipX86: you should fix it |
| 23:24.01 | ChipX86 | I was tempted |
| 23:24.07 | darth_mall | cuz you're all magical at fixing things |
| 23:24.08 | ChipX86 | then I realized I'm growing to hat ethis stuff |
| 23:24.09 | TD | as usual, there are N versions of the spec, all alike, none implemented correctly |
| 23:24.11 | TD | except in CVS |
| 23:24.32 | TD | join the club |
| 23:24.38 | TD | you'd think stuff like menus and icons would be EASY |
| 23:25.19 | darth_mall | TD: they are easy, except that everyone wants their own to be the one |
| 23:26.36 | purple_cow | gnome finally seems to have menus figured out |
| 23:26.36 | darth_mall | purple_cow: you are a menu! |
| 23:26.36 | ChipX86 | 2.10's menus look really nice |
| 23:26.36 | ChipX86 | the Places menu rocks |
| 23:26.50 | darth_mall | agreed |
| 23:28.50 | darth_mall | ChipX86: can I have a puppy? |
| 23:29.16 | kergoth | ~emulate peter |
| 23:29.17 | jbot | NOOOOOO. Silly rabbit, Trix are for kids. Damn longears, trying to take Easter away from Jesus. Anyway, what was that you were saying? |
| 23:29.34 | TD | http://manny.cluecoder.org/packages/control-center-gui/screenshot-0.1.png |
| 23:30.22 | purple_cow | TD: saw that this morning |
| 23:30.31 | TD | why? |
| 23:30.50 | purple_cow | dunno, it just seems like extra UI |
| 23:31.07 | darth_mall | purple_cow: more is better |
| 23:31.10 | darth_mall | duh |
| 23:31.16 | darth_mall | now dance, rummy! |
| 23:31.17 | purple_cow | i'd love to see the menu broken up into categories, but...eh... |
| 23:32.18 | darth_mall | purple_cow: you're not dancing |
| 23:33.27 | CIA-5 | spacegrant: 03dowty * r928 10mck/PyMCK/ (Observable.py Test/test_observable.py): |
| 23:33.27 | CIA-5 | spacegrant: Implement a simple Observable.Vector object for aggregating Observable.Values in |
| 23:33.27 | CIA-5 | spacegrant: a tuple, and add freeze/thaw methods to Event. Test cases demonstrate using |
| 23:33.27 | CIA-5 | spacegrant: freeze/thaw to update multiple values in a vector simultaneously |
| 23:33.34 | purple_cow | i don't see what's wrong with the way the current 2.10 control center is done (as long as it gets split up into those categories, right now i just have 'accessibility' and 'others') |
| 23:34.29 | darth_mall | yay others |
| 23:34.55 | darth_mall | scanline super love monkey |
| 23:36.47 | scanline | huh |
| 23:36.57 | scanline | emacs just decided that "a" should look exactly like "q" |
| 23:37.57 | purple_cow | cool |
| 23:38.49 | scanline | oh |
| 23:38.57 | scanline | or there was a piece of dirt on my screen just under the tail of the 'a' |
| 23:40.09 | purple_cow | hahahaha |
| 23:40.14 | purple_cow | ``Eric Raymond has a Thinkpad X40 and has written about it too. Careful though, he owns lots of guns.'' |
| 23:42.15 | CIA-5 | spacegrant: 03dowty * r929 10mck/PyMCK/Hardware/Micronet/Entity.py: Add freeze/thaw to MicronetReader to ensure atomic notifications |
| 23:48.45 | *** join/#tacobeam pagefault (~pagefault@67.71.46.49) |
| 23:55.31 | pagefault | hrm |
| 23:55.33 | pagefault | that didn't work |
