| 00:00.05 | ChipX86 | or for tracking |
| 00:00.23 | ChipX86 | I'm amused that my shipment was sent a day before I ordered it |
| 00:00.55 | file[laptop] | ChipX86: ooh, efficient |
| 00:01.01 | file[laptop] | they knew to send it before you ordered it! |
| 00:01.22 | ChipX86 | yep |
| 00:02.09 | ChipX86 | wish I had the old font for the destroymornings menu |
| 00:02.23 | scanline | blehhh |
| 00:02.46 | ChipX86 | :/ |
| 00:02.48 | purple_cow | stick it in a public_html on navi and download it |
| 00:02.49 | scanline | hmm, going a little faster this time |
| 00:03.16 | scanline | or even better, I could start XSP in this directory and grab it directly from yoshi |
| 00:03.25 | purple_cow | xsp? |
| 00:03.33 | scanline | mono's web server |
| 00:04.19 | scanline | um.. |
| 00:04.27 | scanline | I think it just loaded the whole thing into RAM before starting to serve it |
| 00:04.51 | scanline | and then it only sent 7MB |
| 00:06.01 | purple_cow | heh |
| 00:06.48 | scanline | hm. xine still doesn't grok this raw codec |
| 00:09.06 | scanline | whee |
| 00:09.19 | scanline | if I copy the glib DLL from workrave, echoserver works |
| 00:09.37 | scanline | and fyre =D |
| 00:10.15 | purple_cow | sweet |
| 00:10.35 | scanline | hmm |
| 00:10.39 | scanline | well, it worked as a client |
| 00:10.46 | scanline | doesn't immediately work as a rendering node |
| 00:14.21 | scanline | heh. linker really freaks out if I don't "make clean" when switching from native to win32 builds :P |
| 00:16.06 | scanline | woo |
| 00:16.10 | scanline | micah@yoshi ~ $ nc 10.0.0.20 7931 |
| 00:16.11 | scanline | 220 Fyre rendering server ready |
| 00:16.46 | scanline | hehe. nice crash as soon as I try to connect to it with fyre |
| 00:17.18 | ChipX86 | awww |
| 00:18.02 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03micah * r6690 10fyre/src/main.c: Set the IPv6 policy back to GIPV6_POLICY_IPV4_ONLY under windows, gnet doesn't seem to bind to an ipv4 port at all without this. |
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| 00:18.23 | pagefault | wee |
| 00:18.27 | *** part/#tacobeam pagefault (~pagefault@67.71.46.49) |
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| 00:18.35 | pagefault | oops |
| 00:18.37 | pagefault | hehe |
| 00:18.39 | pagefault | ubuntu installed :) |
| 00:18.47 | file | did it work out well? |
| 00:19.00 | pagefault | yep |
| 00:19.01 | pagefault | it's nice |
| 00:19.14 | file | cool |
| 00:19.22 | ChipX86 | yay |
| 00:19.22 | pagefault | yep |
| 00:19.24 | pagefault | I like this a lot |
| 00:19.24 | ChipX86 | http://destroymornings.com/ |
| 00:19.27 | ChipX86 | pagefault: yeah :) |
| 00:19.29 | ChipX86 | it's awesome |
| 00:19.32 | ChipX86 | clean |
| 00:19.36 | pagefault | yeah no kidding |
| 00:19.41 | pagefault | I have everything I want and it fit on one cd |
| 00:19.44 | ChipX86 | yep |
| 00:19.51 | ChipX86 | and the rest is an apt-get away |
| 00:19.58 | pagefault | yeah |
| 00:20.02 | pagefault | lazyness is good |
| 00:20.26 | purple_cow | hmm, i'm gonna need a name |
| 00:20.51 | ChipX86 | bob |
| 00:20.57 | pagefault | seems to have detected all my hardware on the first go too |
| 00:21.08 | ChipX86 | call it hss, so you can ssh hss |
| 00:21.10 | purple_cow | i'm seriously tempted to take a page from that siggraph guy's book and name it fembot |
| 00:21.46 | scanline | arr |
| 00:21.54 | pagefault | oh neat |
| 00:22.07 | pagefault | even samba is installed and configured I can see my brothers XP system :D |
| 00:22.10 | ChipX86 | :) |
| 00:24.03 | ChipX86 | pagefault: did you see the DestroyMornings shop? |
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| 00:24.17 | pagefault | ChipX86: yeah I am ordering a t-shirt as soon as I get paid |
| 00:24.23 | ChipX86 | cool |
| 00:24.33 | ChipX86 | I just ordered a shirt and a mug. We'll see next week how they turn out |
| 00:24.54 | pagefault | oh man |
| 00:24.58 | pagefault | this distro is so good |
| 00:25.02 | ChipX86 | it is |
| 00:25.08 | pagefault | it's debian withou the suckage |
| 00:25.41 | pagefault | i'm glad it worked out |
| 00:25.44 | pagefault | since I deleted my gentoo partition :) |
| 00:25.48 | ChipX86 | :) |
| 00:25.53 | scanline | ah, 2.0.5 |
| 00:26.00 | pagefault | should switch though |
| 00:26.03 | pagefault | since I am using warty |
| 00:26.17 | ChipX86 | hoary is good. I'm using that |
| 00:26.33 | pagefault | yeah editing sources.list :) |
| 00:26.34 | ChipX86 | no instabilities so far |
| 00:26.50 | ChipX86 | well, one, but it's the kernel's fault |
| 00:27.00 | pagefault | blame linus |
| 00:27.01 | pagefault | :P |
| 00:27.05 | ChipX86 | yep |
| 00:27.18 | ChipX86 | I need to put 2.6.10 back on here, see if it'll work with everything this time |
| 00:27.40 | pagefault | 217mb to upgrade |
| 00:27.41 | pagefault | fun |
| 00:28.17 | pagefault | then I get to fight with ATI's drivers |
| 00:29.33 | pagefault | wow |
| 00:29.36 | pagefault | even the right fonts are installed |
| 00:29.42 | pagefault | this is like perfect |
| 00:30.17 | ChipX86 | it's a good distro. There's room for improvement, but it's impressed me |
| 00:30.25 | pagefault | yeah I am impressed |
| 00:30.29 | ChipX86 | you can get a nice desktop up and running fast |
| 00:30.40 | pagefault | literally took 5 minutes to install |
| 00:31.09 | ChipX86 | well, longer than 5 minutes: P |
| 00:31.59 | pagefault | took me like 5 |
| 00:32.00 | pagefault | I think |
| 00:32.02 | pagefault | I wasn't timing it |
| 00:32.05 | pagefault | but it was really fast |
| 00:32.25 | pagefault | faster than an XP install anyway |
| 00:32.27 | pagefault | which is slow |
| 00:32.31 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 00:33.04 | file | I've imaged all my stuff, takes me 10 minutes to restore to a working XP install... rather cool |
| 00:33.18 | pagefault | it's nice to have a clean distro for once |
| 00:33.30 | pagefault | not having crap installed I would never use |
| 00:34.17 | pagefault | they changed the icon on firefox though |
| 00:34.21 | pagefault | which sort of confused me at first |
| 00:35.46 | scanline | ooh |
| 00:35.57 | scanline | workrave has good instructions and shell scripts for their cross-compilation setup |
| 00:36.13 | pagefault | stupid MSN takes forever to sign in |
| 00:36.45 | pagefault | I wonder if they are being DoSed again |
| 00:39.57 | pagefault | I should probably reboot after apt-get is done |
| 00:43.47 | ChipX86 | time to get laundry! |
| 00:44.42 | purple_cow | scanline: can you mount 00-04 in /mnt/navi? it'd be handy for me to tab-complete things |
| 00:44.54 | scanline | k |
| 00:45.39 | scanline | done |
| 00:45.42 | purple_cow | thanks |
| 00:46.04 | pagefault | yay chinese food |
| 00:47.02 | pagefault | orange chicken szchewan style |
| 00:47.51 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r6691 10bzedit/scripts/ (9 files in 2 dirs): do a bunch of stuff to get it exporting most of the objects it can import |
| 00:49.14 | purple_cow | scanline: err, 05 too |
| 00:49.34 | pagefault | root@ubuntu:/ # apt-get install zsnes |
| 00:49.34 | pagefault | Reading Package Lists... Done |
| 00:49.35 | pagefault | Building Dependency Tree... Done |
| 00:49.37 | pagefault | E: Couldn't find package zsnes |
| 00:49.39 | pagefault | doh |
| 00:52.35 | ChipX86 | do you have universe and multiverse? |
| 00:54.00 | pagefault | I have no idea? |
| 00:55.03 | ChipX86 | add those to your feed. Just tack it on to the line with main or updates or whatever |
| 00:55.27 | pagefault | ok |
| 00:56.19 | pagefault | bah |
| 00:56.24 | pagefault | more stuff to upgrade |
| 00:56.27 | pagefault | :P |
| 01:04.30 | scanline | piece of shit |
| 01:04.36 | scanline | laptop locked up hard doing an scp again |
| 01:05.56 | ChipX86 | navi needs some Lewis Black |
| 01:08.34 | purple_cow | hey look, a protel iso |
| 01:10.27 | purple_cow | ooh, sweet |
| 01:10.34 | scanline | does windows have a debugger? |
| 01:16.21 | scanline | micah@yoshi ~/navi-misc/fyre $ nc 10.0.0.20 7931 |
| 01:16.21 | scanline | 220 Fyre rendering server ready |
| 01:16.21 | scanline | boing |
| 01:16.21 | scanline | 500 Command not recognized |
| 01:16.30 | scanline | the right response, but for all the wrong reasons... |
| 01:18.00 | scanline | whoa |
| 01:18.04 | scanline | wait.. maybe it's working |
| 01:18.08 | scanline | calc_status |
| 01:18.08 | scanline | 251 iterations=0.00000000000000000000e+000 density=0 |
| 01:18.35 | scanline | woo |
| 01:18.40 | scanline | I'm getting rendering results |
| 01:18.52 | scanline | not exactly a speed demon... |
| 01:19.26 | scanline | ahh |
| 01:19.27 | scanline | damnit |
| 01:19.37 | scanline | this was never a gnet problem.. bug in the code for --verbose |
| 01:19.48 | scanline | well, the lack of connection and all that was gnet and/or glib |
| 01:20.05 | scanline | but all that seems to have been fixed by using workrave's slightly older binaries |
| 01:21.54 | purple_cow | hmm, 05 is having trouble |
| 01:22.02 | purple_cow | that was the same channel as the disk i couldn't init |
| 01:22.03 | scanline | wheeeeee |
| 01:22.23 | scanline | so skip that disk for now? |
| 01:22.32 | purple_cow | yep, i'm sticking stuff on 06 now |
| 01:22.57 | purple_cow | can you go ahead and mount 06-09? i've exported everything so i don't have to keep asking |
| 01:23.21 | file | memory leaks... GONE! |
| 01:23.32 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03micah * r6692 10fyre/src/avi-writer.c: |
| 01:23.32 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: Looks like we had a flag on this whole time indicating that we have an index, |
| 01:23.32 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: when we actually don't. Unfortunately, even when this flag is set correctly |
| 01:23.32 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: Windows Media Player won't read our files. Added #defines for the AVIF_* flags |
| 01:23.32 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: for future use. |
| 01:24.47 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03micah * r6693 10fyre/src/remote-server.c: Fix a really dumb bug in the --verbose code. Now clustering seems to be 100% functional under windows, assuming you use exactly the right version of glib and gnet. Hurray! |
| 01:27.02 | purple_cow | sweet |
| 01:28.04 | purple_cow | heh |
| 01:28.55 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03micah * r6694 10fyre/src/remote-server.c: Make --verbose a little less useless. Now instead of being mostly debuggative in nature, it tells you when a particular client starts/stops calculation, and gives status updates (iterations and density) |
| 01:29.31 | scanline | wheee |
| 01:30.15 | purple_cow | heh, looks like i didn't get any real data on 05 before it crapped out |
| 01:30.42 | purple_cow | unfortunately, it's clogged up the union a bit |
| 01:30.49 | scanline | pff, union |
| 01:30.49 | purple_cow | but nothing immediately bad |
| 01:32.59 | purple_cow | ooh, twilight zone |
| 01:34.29 | scanline | =D |
| 01:34.31 | scanline | http://navi.cx/~micah/fyre-unfiled/fyre-win32-server.jpeg |
| 01:35.13 | purple_cow | =D |
| 01:35.24 | purple_cow | yay for .jpeg instead of .jpg |
| 01:35.26 | scanline | yep |
| 01:35.43 | scanline | so.. I guess I'll poke at AVI indexes a little now :) |
| 01:35.53 | purple_cow | masochistic bastard |
| 01:35.59 | scanline | should prolly make a script soon to scrape together all the necessary DLLs into a self-contained package |
| 01:36.01 | purple_cow | err, i mean |
| 01:36.03 | purple_cow | go go go! |
| 01:36.05 | scanline | ;) |
| 01:37.58 | purple_cow | would be nice to have a little nsis installer |
| 01:38.03 | scanline | already have one |
| 01:39.19 | scanline | I just want to make the packaging process automatic- have a python or shell script that takes the fresh binary, all the cross-compiled DLLs, gtk themes, and such and creates a .zip and an installer |
| 01:39.22 | scanline | probably running nsis under wine |
| 01:39.37 | scanline | workrave has a script I could use as a starting point |
| 01:40.52 | scanline | I'm curious how well WMP plays raw files at all... |
| 01:41.13 | scanline | maybe I'll use mencoder or transcode to fix up the index |
| 01:44.47 | purple_cow | just going to ignore the problem if wmp can't play it? |
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| 01:45.09 | pagefault | blah |
| 01:45.12 | scanline | yeah, unless there's another lossless codec that it supports |
| 01:45.13 | pagefault | I got one problem with ubuntu |
| 01:45.20 | scanline | I don't want fyre saving lossy files |
| 01:45.27 | pagefault | it installed grub in such a way that my xp partition won't boot |
| 01:45.28 | pagefault | hehe |
| 01:45.39 | scanline | pagefault: are you in XP now? |
| 01:45.40 | ChipX86 | oops |
| 01:45.50 | pagefault | nah I am in linux on my notebook |
| 01:45.53 | scanline | ah |
| 01:46.04 | pagefault | waiting for xp cd to boot |
| 01:46.07 | pagefault | so I can fix my MBR |
| 01:46.36 | scanline | shouldn't you just use grub to add winxp to the menu? |
| 01:47.09 | scanline | purple_cow: woo. after running through "mencoder -ovc copy" it plays in WMP |
| 01:48.35 | pagefault | scanline, yeah |
| 01:48.39 | pagefault | if it would boot |
| 01:48.40 | pagefault | heh |
| 01:48.50 | scanline | pagefault: you can't even get into the grub menu? |
| 01:49.05 | pagefault | it just hangs when it tries to boot the XP partition |
| 01:49.10 | scanline | fun |
| 01:49.16 | pagefault | yeah |
| 01:50.25 | scanline | hmm.. I suppose in a raw stream I should mark every frame as a keyframe :) |
| 01:50.52 | scanline | "Specifies the location of the data chunk in the file. The value should be specified as an offset, in bytes, from the start of the 'movi' list; however, in some AVI files it is given as an offset from the start of the file." |
| 01:51.00 | scanline | gross |
| 01:51.27 | purple_cow | hehe |
| 01:52.13 | scanline | it's only 16 bytes per frame |
| 01:52.31 | purple_cow | keep it RAM ;) |
| 01:52.51 | scanline | 64k frames is only 1 MByte, and if you really are doing a ginormous animation, it should swap out safely |
| 01:54.12 | pagefault | damn this is annoying |
| 01:54.17 | pagefault | I hate microsoft |
| 01:55.44 | pagefault | wow this rules |
| 01:55.47 | pagefault | XP Home cd can |
| 01:55.54 | pagefault | err can't read a XP Pro partition |
| 01:56.13 | ChipX86 | hah |
| 01:56.15 | ChipX86 | no surprise. |
| 01:56.19 | ChipX86 | ok, time to head to the party |
| 01:57.03 | pagefault | looks like I get to reformat my computer soon |
| 01:58.43 | pagefault | yep |
| 01:58.45 | pagefault | I am fucked |
| 01:59.02 | pagefault | yet chkdsk says the disk is in "good condition" |
| 01:59.03 | pagefault | yeah right |
| 01:59.15 | pagefault | if good condition means you can't read anything off it |
| 01:59.18 | pagefault | then we have different ideas |
| 01:59.44 | file[laptop] | pagefault: what are you trying to do exactly? |
| 01:59.50 | pagefault | trying to recover my XP disk |
| 02:00.00 | file[laptop] | head into the restore console... type fixboot and fixmbr |
| 02:00.01 | pagefault | which now seems to be unrecoverable |
| 02:00.07 | pagefault | already did htat |
| 02:00.11 | file[laptop] | still nothing? |
| 02:00.25 | pagefault | when a do a dir all I get is garbage text |
| 02:02.41 | pagefault | yep |
| 02:02.44 | pagefault | that parititon is toast |
| 02:02.47 | pagefault | heh |
| 02:03.51 | pagefault | good thing I have a notebook |
| 02:05.54 | pagefault | oh well |
| 02:06.01 | pagefault | my XP partition was in need of a format anyway |
| 02:06.05 | pagefault | it was almost 2 months old |
| 02:06.07 | pagefault | heh |
| 02:18.40 | Sophie_ | g'bye nero, itunes, mkwact, razorlame, etc. |
| 02:18.56 | scanline | mkwact? |
| 02:19.15 | purple_cow | razorlame? |
| 02:19.20 | scanline | itunes? |
| 02:19.22 | purple_cow | hehe |
| 02:19.24 | Sophie_ | lovely little util for compressing and decompressing shn & flac files |
| 02:19.49 | Sophie_ | very useful for bootlegs. |
| 02:20.19 | Sophie_ | what's a good linux lame frontend? |
| 02:21.03 | pagefault | itunes is a POS |
| 02:21.16 | pagefault | idiots load the ipod service even if you don't have an ipod |
| 02:21.19 | pagefault | just wastes memory |
| 02:21.28 | scanline | OMG LOOKIT ALL THOSE KBYTES! |
| 02:21.38 | pagefault | more like 10mb |
| 02:21.51 | scanline | oh, did I sound sarcastic? |
| 02:21.58 | pagefault | yeah |
| 02:21.59 | Sophie_ | it does tend to steal file associations, which is irritating |
| 02:22.18 | pagefault | they also claim it is the "best windows program ever" |
| 02:22.55 | Sophie_ | not really, but the best mp3 buying service I've seen, and the best for internet radio. |
| 02:23.08 | pagefault | I just use winamp in windows for radio |
| 02:23.46 | Sophie_ | as far as I know, you have to plug in a location that wa plays |
| 02:23.51 | pagefault | I hate to say it but I like WMP10 more than itunes |
| 02:23.52 | pagefault | :/ |
| 02:23.57 | Sophie_ | you can't just browse random stations |
| 02:25.12 | Sophie_ | eeeee w |
| 02:25.20 | pagefault | winamp 5 has a stream browser |
| 02:27.05 | pagefault | brb |
| 02:28.32 | Sophie_ | how does winamp make their money? |
| 02:28.35 | Sophie_ | adverts? |
| 02:29.22 | Sophie_ | or does nullsoft make profits from other packages & wa is just a side proj? |
| 02:30.06 | purple_cow | heh |
| 02:36.10 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r6695 10fyre/configure.ac: i'm not entirely fain to this, but add --disable options for openexr and gnet because apparently they'll make ports-style packages easier. also update version numbers |
| 02:41.24 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r6696 10fyre/BUGS: looks like scanline has knocked these off the list already |
| 02:49.32 | purple_cow | huh. so supposedly scanline's adding indexes, but i haven't heard any screams of terror or agony |
| 02:49.49 | purple_cow | maybe it overcame him too quickly |
| 02:49.51 | scanline | :) |
| 02:50.30 | scanline | ah.. I should really use a GQueue for this, not a GSList.. |
| 02:54.32 | scanline | purple_cow: I have it pretty much implemented, but the documentation I have is vague enough I'll probably need to hex edit some AVIs to see if it's right |
| 02:56.20 | scanline | yep.. now's about when the agony comes |
| 02:56.22 | scanline | AVI: Missing video stream!? Contact the author, it may be a bug :( |
| 02:57.46 | purple_cow | hehe |
| 02:59.47 | scanline | ooh, fancy |
| 03:00.04 | scanline | mplayer fills the JUNK section with "[= MPlayer junk data! =]" over and over again |
| 03:00.11 | scanline | I wonder if we could stick parameters in there? :P |
| 03:00.14 | purple_cow | hehe |
| 03:00.21 | purple_cow | just store the .fa there |
| 03:00.23 | scanline | yep |
| 03:00.38 | scanline | fyre's never generated a junk section.. wonder if it's actually important |
| 03:00.51 | scanline | it's not mentioned in the msdn docs I've seen |
| 03:01.19 | purple_cow | http://msdn.microsoft.com/archive/default.asp?url=/archive/en-us/directx9_c/directx/htm/avirifffilereference.asp |
| 03:01.24 | purple_cow | at the bottom |
| 03:01.40 | scanline | ah |
| 03:01.44 | scanline | well that's silly |
| 03:03.09 | scanline | hmm |
| 03:03.15 | scanline | "The AVIOLDINDEX structure describes an AVI 1.0 index ('idx1' format). New AVI files should use an AVI 2.0 index ('indx' format)." |
| 03:03.20 | scanline | all the AVIs I've seen use 'idx1' |
| 03:08.39 | scanline | ooh, mplayer plays them again |
| 03:10.24 | scanline | yay, looks correct in a hex editor |
| 03:12.21 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03micah * r6697 10fyre/src/ (avi-writer.c avi-writer.h): Wahoo! Implemented "idx1"-style AVI indexes in AviWriter. Now animations from fyre play in Windows Media Player, and mplayer can seek within them. |
| 03:12.39 | purple_cow | =D |
| 03:13.08 | scanline | ah, right |
| 03:13.57 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03micah * r6698 10fyre/BUGS: Remove the AVI index bug. Also remove the libpng "bug"- there was nothing wrong, I just had a bad build last time I tested it. |
| 03:14.13 | purple_cow | aww, i can't put in a custom "is a" thing on deviant art |
| 03:17.53 | scanline | hmm |
| 03:18.07 | scanline | I get some gtk warnings when trying to browse for a filename in the animation render dialog |
| 03:18.14 | scanline | causes a big ugly console window to show up on win32 |
| 03:19.07 | scanline | hah |
| 03:19.18 | scanline | and then when I hit "ok", it saves th new filename but the selector doesn't disappear |
| 03:21.24 | purple_cow | scanline: i'll fix those. you go ahead and do your broadcast thing ;) |
| 03:21.29 | scanline | k |
| 03:22.32 | scanline | oh, that is sweet |
| 03:22.40 | scanline | just render an animation to the desktop, double-click it, and it plays |
| 03:22.55 | scanline | and if your disk is fast enough, you can seek through pretty well |
| 03:24.47 | scanline | hm |
| 03:24.56 | scanline | it'd be nice to have a file association for .fa files |
| 03:26.06 | purple_cow | hmm, that'd be nice in linux too |
| 03:26.32 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r6699 10fyre/TODO: might as well add that here |
| 03:26.34 | scanline | would also be nice if it opened the animation window automatically when it got a -n command line option |
| 03:26.47 | scanline | you could probably do that sanely in the Explorer object by having it check whether |
| 03:26.48 | scanline | er |
| 03:26.55 | scanline | check whether 'animation' has nonzero length |
| 03:27.28 | scanline | same way it currently checks whether the about box loaded right, since the animation object doesn't really give any error status yet ;) |
| 03:27.39 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r6700 10fyre/src/animation-render-ui.c: fix gtkfilechooser problems in the animation render UI |
| 03:47.46 | purple_cow | hmm |
| 03:47.55 | purple_cow | No-detach and verbose cluster mode (show clients, show render status) <-- that's done, right? |
| 03:48.01 | scanline | yes |
| 03:48.31 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r6701 10fyre/TODO: one step closer to 1.0 :) |
| 03:48.44 | scanline | 255.255.255.255 is always a broadcast address, right? |
| 03:48.48 | purple_cow | yes |
| 03:48.53 | scanline | k |
| 03:51.50 | purple_cow | hmm |
| 03:52.04 | purple_cow | the 'render' menu option probably shouldn't be available unless there are at least two keyframes, right? |
| 03:52.18 | scanline | you can render with one keyframe, it's just rather boring |
| 03:52.27 | purple_cow | but not with no keyframes |
| 03:52.33 | scanline | AFAIK |
| 03:52.38 | scanline | at least, you shouldn't be able to |
| 03:52.46 | scanline | it will probably let you render, but give you a zero-length animation |
| 03:53.03 | scanline | I don't think I've ever tried that |
| 03:53.26 | purple_cow | it probably makes sense to disable it unless there are two keyframes, no? ;) |
| 03:53.33 | scanline | probably |
| 03:58.18 | purple_cow | scanline: what hex editor do you use? |
| 03:58.24 | scanline | ghex |
| 03:58.40 | scanline | it's not pretty, but handles large files pretty well |
| 04:01.23 | scanline | hmm... it'd be nice to have compression in the .fa format |
| 04:01.34 | scanline | we already need zlib for libpng |
| 04:05.55 | purple_cow | how does application/x-fyre-animation sound? |
| 04:05.57 | gonkulator | wb slimspace |
| 04:06.11 | scanline | purple_cow: video/x-fyre-animation? :) |
| 04:06.13 | slimspace | hey gonkulator |
| 04:06.18 | scanline | purple_cow: either sounds fine to me |
| 04:07.04 | scanline | pff |
| 04:07.09 | scanline | fyre gstreamer plugin, here we come! |
| 04:09.07 | purple_cow | .fa will always have "Fyre Animation" at the beginning? |
| 04:09.38 | scanline | yes |
| 04:09.41 | scanline | er |
| 04:09.51 | scanline | there might be support for de jong explorer stuffs still |
| 04:10.06 | scanline | #define FILE_SIGNATURE "Fyre Animation\n\r\xFF\n" |
| 04:10.09 | scanline | #define OLD_FILE_SIGNATURE "de Jong Explorer Animation\n\r\xFF\n" |
| 04:10.11 | scanline | yeah |
| 04:11.00 | scanline | there's no reason for that signature to change again, since we can expand the format by adding new chunk types |
| 04:31.09 | scanline | hmm |
| 04:32.46 | scanline | I can receive broadcasts sent to 10.0.0.255, but not those sent to 255.255.255.255 |
| 04:33.08 | purple_cow | cool |
| 04:33.19 | scanline | :( |
| 04:37.13 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r6702 10fyre/configure.ac: increase verbosity a bit about what we're supporting |
| 04:41.14 | scanline | either navi's routing is very funky or netcat is eating these packets |
| 04:42.59 | purple_cow | ethereal? |
| 04:43.27 | scanline | I'm blaming netcat for now and writing the client-side |
| 04:43.48 | scanline | yay for gnet being cool |
| 04:46.04 | purple_cow | hyuk. update-mime-database is a pitifully unverbose tool |
| 04:48.31 | scanline | this could be a fun little packet relay if you spoof the from address.. but the packets would always have the same content, and they'd be pretty tiny |
| 04:50.05 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03micah * r6703 10fyre/src/ (6 files): Clean up the "--help" output, implement the discovery server, and start the discovery client |
| 04:50.20 | zak|gone | and then at all her clocks wrongness |
| 04:50.29 | zak|gone | how do i sync my clock? |
| 04:50.48 | scanline | ntpdate <some-ntp-server> |
| 04:50.59 | scanline | there are web sites where you can look up ntp servers |
| 04:51.11 | scanline | time.apple.com is a good one to abuse |
| 04:56.08 | scanline | :) |
| 04:57.28 | purple_cow | http://navi.cx/~jupiter/progress.png |
| 04:57.40 | scanline | =D |
| 04:57.55 | purple_cow | it doesn't actually work yet, but fyre's associating |
| 04:58.05 | scanline | cool |
| 04:58.22 | scanline | /home/micah/fyre-native/src/main.c:171: undefined reference to `cluster_model_enable_discovery' |
| 04:58.25 | scanline | ^ my progress :P |
| 04:58.34 | purple_cow | i'm also not getting my new mime type for .fa. dunno if i have to restart nautilus for that or what |
| 04:58.36 | purple_cow | heh |
| 05:10.38 | lurgy | gnyarf |
| 05:26.30 | zak|gone | hiya lurgy |
| 05:28.51 | purple_cow | hrm |
| 05:28.56 | purple_cow | i might need to have 3 desktop files =P |
| 05:29.25 | scanline | what for? |
| 05:30.32 | purple_cow | well, we need custom cmdline parameters depending on the type of file we're opening |
| 05:30.55 | purple_cow | and everything i'm trying to do that in a single .desktop isn't working :( |
| 05:30.57 | scanline | but can't fyre only open two types of file? |
| 05:32.22 | purple_cow | yeah, but one .desktop for the menu entries |
| 05:32.34 | scanline | ah |
| 05:33.05 | scanline | yay, I discovered a fyre server on yoshi |
| 05:33.07 | scanline | on port -5! |
| 05:34.29 | purple_cow | hehe |
| 05:36.39 | scanline | yay |
| 05:37.28 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03micah * r6704 10fyre/src/ (8 files): It looks like server discovery might be working. Currently it just prints a debug message when it finds a server rather than actually connecting to it, and there's no GUI for it yet. |
| 05:38.30 | lurgy | yay my transmogrification thingy worked |
| 05:39.43 | lurgy | zak|gone: has successfully been turned into some sort of snorting taco-eating thing |
| 05:41.16 | scanline | w00t |
| 05:41.22 | scanline | micah@yoshi ~/fyre-native $ src/fyre -C |
| 05:41.22 | scanline | Discovery on 10.0.0.53:7931 |
| 05:41.22 | scanline | Discovery on 10.0.0.1:7931 |
| 05:41.38 | scanline | yay broadcast UDP |
| 05:42.00 | scanline | and it should keep trying every 5 minutes, so servers added later will automatically be connected |
| 05:42.20 | zak|gone | i found the funniest thing today |
| 05:42.29 | zak|gone | a recipe book from when i was in first grade |
| 05:43.40 | lurgy | hehe |
| 05:44.30 | scanline | purple_cow: I might be heading over to the ITS lab tonight for some beta testing ;) |
| 05:44.52 | purple_cow | heh |
| 05:45.32 | scanline | cool. it found the server running under windows too |
| 05:56.51 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03micah * r6705 10fyre/src/ (cluster-model.c cluster-model.h discovery-client.c): Hook up cluster autodiscovery in ClusterModel, fix some bugs. It seems to work nicely now, when enabled with the -C command line option. Still needs a GUI |
| 06:00.01 | scanline | whoa |
| 06:00.06 | scanline | I made win2k bluescreen |
| 06:00.15 | lurgy | yay |
| 06:00.23 | lurgy | that's always fun |
| 06:00.26 | scanline | and what a surprise, it crashed in the driver for my wireless card |
| 06:06.11 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r6706 10fyre/data/ (. Makefile.am fyre.desktop.in fyre.keys x-fyre-animation.xml): shuffling around |
| 06:06.27 | Soph_movie | the ending was SO funny/ |
| 06:06.37 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r6707 10fyre/ (. ChangeLog Makefile.am fyre.desktop.in): whoops, get these too |
| 06:06.56 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r6708 10fyre/data/: hush |
| 06:07.15 | Soph_movie | CIA-5 = bot? |
| 06:08.39 | Soph_movie | I wish I had a predator buddy. We'd do everything together and when somebody pissed me off, no sweat |
| 06:08.54 | Soph_movie | 'cause my predator buddy would kill 'em. |
| 06:10.24 | lurgy | he's probably not real |
| 06:10.29 | lurgy | or he just sucks at being a predator |
| 06:10.36 | Soph_movie | is he, by any chance, curious? |
| 06:10.49 | lurgy | hehe |
| 06:10.53 | lurgy | "George was curious!" |
| 06:11.51 | Soph_movie | what time is it? My fuzzy clock says quarter past six. |
| 06:12.41 | Soph_movie | but I bet it's more like 2. |
| 06:13.09 | Soph_movie | so that's a bit fuzzier than I'd prefer, really. |
| 06:13.57 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03micah * r6709 10fyre/ (4 files in 2 dirs): Add a check box for enabling/disabling cluster discovery. Fix a crash on disabling DiscoveryClient. |
| 06:14.28 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03micah * r6710 10fyre/TODO: Cross off cluster autodetection :) |
| 06:15.17 | scanline | let's see.. remote control of the GUI is next |
| 06:15.28 | scanline | that should be easy and fun |
| 06:15.40 | Soph_movie | scanline = bot? |
| 06:15.49 | scanline | affirmitive |
| 06:15.50 | Soph_movie | ;) |
| 06:15.58 | scanline | I am a mighty robot! |
| 06:16.12 | Soph_movie | will you be my predator-ish buddy? |
| 06:16.23 | Soph_movie | or must you obay asimov's laws? |
| 06:16.37 | Soph_movie | obey |
| 06:16.38 | scanline | only one way to find out |
| 06:16.49 | Soph_movie | try it on file. |
| 06:17.12 | purple_cow | http://navi.cx/~jupiter/progress.png |
| 06:17.31 | scanline | cool |
| 06:17.44 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r6711 10fyre/data/ (Makefile.am fyre.xml x-fyre-animation.xml): non-broken registration of the application/x-fyre-animation mime type |
| 06:22.34 | lurgy | purple cannibalism! |
| 06:45.44 | *** join/#tacobeam SecretMethod70 (SecretMeth@uac-182-89.uac-resnet.depaul.edu) |
| 06:59.17 | scanline | yay, working |
| 06:59.49 | purple_cow | mine isn't :( |
| 06:59.52 | scanline | =( |
| 07:01.03 | zak|gone | lurgy: a moose bit your sister? |
| 07:01.05 | zak|gone | ouch. |
| 07:01.18 | zak|gone | g'night #tacobeam |
| 07:01.40 | zak|gone | which sister? |
| 07:10.23 | *** join/#tacobeam SecretMethod70 (SecretMeth@uac-182-89.uac-resnet.depaul.edu) |
| 07:13.34 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03micah * r6712 10fyre/src/ (main.c remote-server.c remote-server.h): |
| 07:13.34 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: Implement some simple but extensible GUI support in remote control mode. The |
| 07:13.34 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: remote client can query whether the server supports a GUI, set the GUI style |
| 07:13.34 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: (currently either 'none' or 'simple') and set interactivity parameters. The |
| 07:13.34 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 'simple' GUI is just a window with a HistogramView in it. |
| 07:18.38 | purple_cow | yay, laundry folded, time to try multiple .desktop files :P |
| 07:27.07 | lurgy | sleeeeeeeeping time |
| 07:28.09 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r6713 10fyre/data/ (7 files): hmm, progress! |
| 07:28.27 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r6714 10fyre/data/fyre.keys.in: no more need for this |
| 07:31.15 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r6715 10fyre/data/ (. Makefile.am fyre-png.desktop.in): add one for png too |
| 07:31.35 | purple_cow | hmph. so i feel really dirty having 3 .desktop files for fyre, and it's not doing my document icon thingy |
| 07:31.40 | purple_cow | but you can open .fa and .png :) |
| 07:32.35 | scanline | :) |
| 07:36.08 | purple_cow | dammit |
| 07:36.13 | purple_cow | my eye is twitching again |
| 07:37.31 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r6716 10fyre/TODO: update |
| 07:39.05 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r6717 10fyre/ChangeLog: update for current status |
| 07:39.59 | scanline | hmm, 0.9? :) |
| 07:40.15 | purple_cow | you think it's ready? |
| 07:40.31 | scanline | er, not quite.. I want to finish this little bit and test it on windows a tiny bit more |
| 07:40.37 | scanline | but I think our next release should be 1.0 |
| 07:40.39 | scanline | we're quite close |
| 07:46.33 | purple_cow | hrmph |
| 07:46.46 | purple_cow | it looks like there's no trivial method to get the number of rows in a tree model? :P |
| 07:46.59 | scanline | huh |
| 07:47.20 | scanline | is this for the animation? |
| 07:48.57 | scanline | actually, it already does exactly that for the play button and the scale |
| 07:49.06 | scanline | so it would be good consistency to put the rendering sensitivity there |
| 07:50.07 | purple_cow | makes sense |
| 07:57.50 | purple_cow | crazy bastard |
| 07:58.09 | scanline | well, it kinda needs it for setting large numbers of parameters with only one round-trip |
| 07:58.22 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r6718 10fyre/src/ (5 files): disable rendering unless we have a non-zero animation length, clean up all of scanline's warnings |
| 07:58.32 | scanline | hm, warnings? |
| 07:58.38 | purple_cow | lots of trivial stuff |
| 07:58.48 | purple_cow | but still, i like a clean build |
| 07:58.53 | scanline | definitely |
| 07:58.56 | scanline | I just didn't notice them |
| 07:58.56 | purple_cow | scanline: maybe you don't have wrappers in your path? |
| 07:59.15 | scanline | I used to, I just haven't looked at it in a while |
| 08:07.00 | purple_cow | hmm |
| 08:07.21 | purple_cow | so the only major thing left on my list is making the animation render gui a little more intuitive to close when you're finished rendering an animation |
| 08:07.26 | purple_cow | any ideas? |
| 08:07.39 | scanline | ah, yes |
| 08:07.44 | scanline | I've been wanting a solution to that too |
| 08:07.44 | scanline | :) |
| 08:08.29 | scanline | but yeah, right now it's way too easy to just hit 'ok' again and have it trash the file you just finished |
| 08:08.53 | scanline | hmm |
| 08:09.11 | scanline | maybe instead of 'ok' and 'cancel', we have 'close' and 'render' |
| 08:09.31 | scanline | once a rendering finishes, 'render' doesn't become sensitive unless you change some of the settings |
| 08:09.39 | purple_cow | hmm |
| 08:09.48 | purple_cow | except that cancel button is available while it's rendering |
| 08:10.00 | scanline | hmm |
| 08:13.34 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03micah * r6719 10fyre/ (contrib/fyre_remote.py src/remote-server.c): Add a calc_step command. This should be used instead of calc_start and calc_stop when the client wants to stay synchronized to the server's step rate. |
| 08:13.48 | scanline | I guess I also commited the remote demo... oh well |
| 08:14.29 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03micah * r6720 10fyre/contrib/fyre_remote.py: Make the demo I just accidentally committed executable |
| 08:16.39 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r6721 10fyre/data/animation-render.glade: add a confirmation dialog |
| 08:19.47 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03micah * r6722 10fyre/ (3 files in 2 dirs): If set_gui_style is run when GTK isn't available, send a 502 "No GUI is available" instead of segfaulting |
| 08:20.05 | purple_cow | hehe |
| 08:24.05 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03micah * r6723 10fyre/contrib/fyre_remote.py: Fix an off-by-one in our response pairing caused by not reading the server's "ready" message. Clean up FyreException a bit. |
| 08:26.12 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03micah * r6724 10fyre/contrib/fyre_remote.py: Move the call to set_gui_style below where we set parameters. This avoids having our GUI momentarily come up at the default size before being resized to 400x300. |
| 08:28.19 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03micah * r6725 10fyre/TODO: Remove GUI remote control, add an automatic packaging script for windows |
| 08:28.34 | scanline | ooh, fancy |
| 08:28.36 | scanline | fyre v0.9svn |
| 08:29.47 | scanline | it's creepy having this laptop actually go to sleep... |
| 08:31.27 | ChipX86 | that was fun |
| 08:31.35 | ChipX86 | we planned to come home hours ago, but yay, fun |
| 08:31.45 | scanline | wow |
| 08:31.54 | scanline | 3.6e+6 iters/sec on my laptop |
| 08:31.56 | scanline | yay cluster autodetect |
| 08:32.23 | ChipX86 | how's it doing the autodetect? |
| 08:32.28 | scanline | UDP broadcast |
| 08:32.32 | ChipX86 | ah |
| 08:32.52 | scanline | the next fyre release is going to be so cool :) |
| 08:33.07 | ChipX86 | is this in svn now? |
| 08:33.39 | ChipX86 | ooh 1 visit away from 400 on deviantart |
| 08:34.16 | scanline | yes |
| 08:34.20 | ChipX86 | nice |
| 08:34.28 | scanline | and I have up-to-date windows builds with pretty much everything working |
| 08:34.32 | scanline | just haven't tried openexr on windows yet |
| 08:36.01 | scanline | I can start building win32 snapshots as soon as I write a script to package them automatically |
| 08:36.59 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03micah * r6726 10fyre/ChangeLog: Add the icon fixes and the GUI remote control commands |
| 08:37.14 | ChipX86 | mmm win32 snapshots |
| 08:37.52 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03micah * r6727 10fyre/ChangeLog: Oh yeah.. also add cluster autodetection |
| 08:38.13 | scanline | this release is competing with 0.6 for biggest changelog |
| 08:38.42 | scanline | emacs's changelog mode is weird... |
| 08:38.55 | purple_cow | i don't think anything can compete with 0.7 in terms of features |
| 08:39.33 | scanline | well, 0.7 did have cluster support... |
| 08:39.40 | scanline | hmm, and windows support |
| 08:39.46 | scanline | and some not-quite-as-huge things |
| 08:39.59 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r6728 10fyre/ (3 files in 2 dirs): ask the user for confirmation if they cancel an animation render after it's been going for 15 seconds |
| 08:40.30 | purple_cow | and EXR support |
| 08:40.44 | scanline | :) |
| 08:41.00 | scanline | you can tell that was the siggraph-induced release |
| 08:41.03 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r6729 10fyre/: quiet |
| 08:41.04 | purple_cow | yep |
| 08:41.23 | scanline | mmm |
| 08:41.40 | scanline | creepy to the max seeing my little PIII, in windows, doing 4.7e6 iters/sec |
| 08:41.47 | purple_cow | https://cia.navi.cx/stats/project/?s_catalog=4 <-- we're getting close! |
| 08:42.17 | scanline | :) |
| 08:42.21 | scanline | to beating bzflag? |
| 08:42.38 | purple_cow | yep |
| 08:46.57 | scanline | hah |
| 08:47.10 | scanline | it's great watching the speed counter right after changing a parameter |
| 08:47.18 | scanline | my laptop usually gets something like 5e5 iters/sec |
| 08:47.34 | scanline | then in a couple seconds once the clusters start streaming, it zooms up to 7e6 or so |
| 08:47.55 | purple_cow | hehe |
| 08:49.04 | scanline | oh no.... a crash |
| 08:49.12 | ChipX86 | "Each pound of dark matter weighs over 10,000 pounds." |
| 08:52.14 | scanline | can't reproduce it in linux, at least not in the same way |
| 08:54.55 | scanline | sweet |
| 08:55.03 | scanline | I can use cygwin gdb on regular windows EXEs |
| 08:55.26 | purple_cow | neat |
| 08:58.09 | purple_cow | hmm. we could change "cancel" to "close" when it's not rendering |
| 09:01.36 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r6730 10fyre/src/explorer-animation.c: leftover turd |
| 09:02.22 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03micah * r6731 10fyre/BUGS: Add two crasher bugs |
| 09:04.07 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r6732 10fyre/ (data/animation-render.glade src/animation-render-ui.c): make the animation render GUI default buttons be [close][ok], which change to [cancel][ok] during a rendering |
| 09:04.50 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r6733 10fyre/BUGS: ws ;) |
| 09:04.56 | scanline | :) |
| 09:05.06 | purple_cow | the red, it burned |
| 09:05.16 | scanline | I edited that one in vim :P |
| 09:05.27 | purple_cow | obviously you don't have the right options set |
| 09:05.30 | scanline | yep |
| 09:05.55 | scanline | do we really need a Makefile.am in contrib? |
| 09:06.25 | scanline | all it defintes is EXTRA_DIST.. and it isn't up to date |
| 09:06.26 | purple_cow | if we want those files to show up in a dist tarball we do... |
| 09:06.30 | scanline | ah |
| 09:06.40 | scanline | you use automake to do dist tarballs? |
| 09:06.46 | purple_cow | of course |
| 09:06.54 | scanline | weird :P |
| 09:07.00 | purple_cow | make distcheck is probably the nicest part of autotools :P |
| 09:07.28 | ChipX86 | yep |
| 09:07.59 | ChipX86 | hmm, so sleepy.. |
| 09:08.16 | purple_cow | see, ChipX86 agrees, so it must be true |
| 09:09.04 | ChipX86 | ooh, the first episode of Seinfeld |
| 09:09.09 | purple_cow | well, except for the whole .fa icon thing (which i'm not even sure is possible), my todo list is empty |
| 09:09.16 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03micah * r6734 10fyre/ (4 files in 2 dirs): Move fyre-install.nsi into a new 'build' directory that will soon contain the scripts for generating win32 releases. Updated Makefile.am in contrib to unclude the python example. |
| 09:09.26 | scanline | er, BUGS |
| 09:09.41 | ChipX86 | bUGS puts stress on the "UG" part |
| 09:09.46 | scanline | yes :) |
| 09:09.51 | ChipX86 | uh oh |
| 09:10.02 | ChipX86 | several police cars/ambulances chasing something |
| 09:12.42 | scanline | purple_cow: I'm pretty sure those aren't windows bugs, that's just where I happened to reproduce them |
| 09:13.02 | scanline | valgrinding under linux would probably help, but my valgrind is hanging when I try to run fyre |
| 09:14.17 | ChipX86 | wow, the first episode of Seinfeld isn't nearly as good as later episodes |
| 09:17.19 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r6735 10fyre/src/explorer-about.c: tyop |
| 09:21.04 | purple_cow | i'm getting hangs too :( |
| 09:21.09 | scanline | hrm |
| 09:23.17 | purple_cow | maybe the optimizations are making it go splodey? |
| 09:23.31 | scanline | either that or the pthread warning I was getting was important |
| 09:23.46 | purple_cow | but...are we using threads at all? |
| 09:23.56 | scanline | shouldn't be, but something was initializing them |
| 09:24.02 | purple_cow | i mean, there's some X thread stuff inside gtk, but that's clean |
| 09:27.01 | purple_cow | hmm |
| 09:35.12 | scanline | there's got to be an easier way to do this |
| 09:35.32 | purple_cow | to do what? |
| 09:35.44 | scanline | extract fyredata_DATA from Makefile.am |
| 09:36.14 | ChipX86 | these neighbors have made it quite clear that they don't really care whether or not the apartment managers tell them to shut up at night |
| 09:39.11 | purple_cow | :( |
| 09:41.02 | purple_cow | call the police? |
| 09:41.15 | ChipX86 | I don't want to deal with all that.. |
| 09:41.21 | ChipX86 | going to just report them again tomorrow |
| 09:41.45 | ChipX86 | I get the feeling that anything that I would do tonight would only prevent them from being noisy tonight |
| 09:42.08 | ChipX86 | I'll be more pissed if it continues through the week |
| 09:42.49 | purple_cow | see, that's where the police come in |
| 09:43.14 | purple_cow | there's pretty likely a noise ordinance where you live |
| 09:43.23 | ChipX86 | there is |
| 09:43.25 | purple_cow | and so if they continue after they've been warned, they can be fined |
| 09:43.35 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 09:43.42 | ChipX86 | I'm hoping more for them to be asked to leave. |
| 09:49.27 | purple_cow | aha, something in gnet isn't valgrind-clean |
| 09:51.03 | scanline | hehe |
| 09:52.59 | purple_cow | no errors opening and closing the about box |
| 09:53.04 | scanline | hm |
| 09:53.19 | scanline | one hunch I had was that it's a race condition |
| 09:53.41 | scanline | maybe something usually gets freed after calculation stops, but it isn't guaranteed that it won't be freed before |
| 09:55.07 | purple_cow | i can try helgrinding |
| 09:55.14 | scanline | wazzat? |
| 09:56.08 | purple_cow | another valgrind tool |
| 09:56.28 | purple_cow | it's also possible that it's gnet stepping on something |
| 09:56.39 | scanline | possible |
| 09:57.06 | ChipX86 | ok too tired. g'night |
| 09:57.40 | purple_cow | nothing from helgrind |
| 09:58.12 | scanline | yay |
| 09:58.13 | scanline | DATAFILES=`./extract-var.py $FYREDIR/data/Makefile.am fyredata_DATA` |
| 09:58.19 | scanline | much nicer than a 300-character perl oneliner |
| 09:58.50 | purple_cow | hmm, i don't see how it could be a race in the screensaver code |
| 09:58.53 | purple_cow | that all looks pretty clean |
| 09:59.01 | scanline | hmm |
| 09:59.41 | scanline | I guess I might be able to use this to extract the VERSION too |
| 09:59.58 | scanline | micah@yoshi ~/navi-misc/fyre/build $ ./extract-var.py ../configure.ac VERSION |
| 09:59.58 | scanline | 0.9svn |
| 09:59.58 | scanline | cool |
| 10:00.55 | purple_cow | neat :) |
| 10:01.35 | scanline | and apparently all of these DLLs except iconv and intl are safe to strip |
| 10:02.36 | scanline | hmm |
| 10:02.46 | scanline | suppose this should convert the documentation to windows-style newlines |
| 10:03.04 | purple_cow | ooooh |
| 10:03.06 | purple_cow | only 24 dvds left |
| 10:03.09 | scanline | :) |
| 10:04.30 | scanline | heh |
| 10:04.31 | scanline | sed 's/$/\r/' |
| 10:05.14 | purple_cow | scanline: do you have a backtrace for that iterative_map_start_calculation crash? |
| 10:05.28 | scanline | nope, only had the name of the function it crashed in |
| 10:05.35 | scanline | either the stack was trashed or I'm missing a lot of debug symbols |
| 10:06.21 | purple_cow | hrmph |
| 10:06.39 | purple_cow | hmm hmm hmm |
| 10:11.38 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r6736 10fyre/src/ (explorer-about.c explorer.c explorer.h): when the about box is closed, only resume iterations if we weren't previously paused |
| 10:14.15 | scanline | mm, nsis is quite automation-friendly |
| 10:14.36 | purple_cow | heh |
| 10:14.56 | scanline | eww |
| 10:14.58 | scanline | damn you emacs |
| 10:15.05 | scanline | orangeish-yellow on white? |
| 10:15.35 | purple_cow | heh |
| 10:19.44 | purple_cow | rofl |
| 10:19.49 | purple_cow | http://www.wikinerds.org/img/gnu/banner.jpg <-- first software to run on the HURD! |
| 10:20.28 | scanline | hah |
| 10:20.45 | purple_cow | at least, hurd-L4 |
| 10:22.20 | purple_cow | hmm. i should sleep |
| 10:30.28 | scanline | doh |
| 10:30.33 | scanline | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:30.41 | scanline | I do this thinking that $$ escapes the $... |
| 10:30.51 | scanline | but of course I end up with an installation directory of 2974PROGRAMFILES |
| 10:31.46 | purple_cow | hehehe |
| 10:56.30 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03micah * r6737 10fyre/build/ (. dist-win32.sh extract-var.py fyre-install.nsi): |
| 10:56.30 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: This is the first iteration of a script to automatically create win32 packages, |
| 10:56.30 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: using the result of fyre's build system and the binaries present in the |
| 10:56.30 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: cross-compilation environment. After staging the release, this runs NSIS under |
| 10:56.30 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: Wine to create an installer. Still to do: creating .zip releases, setting up the |
| 10:56.30 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: WIMP theme, and verifying that all the dependencies really are being installed. |
| 10:56.33 | scanline | nice |
| 10:56.34 | scanline | -rwxr-xr-x 1 micah users 2.8M Feb 6 03:53 fyre-0.9svn.exe |
| 10:56.54 | scanline | that's a good bit smaller than the previous releases |
| 10:57.08 | scanline | hopefully everything big is in there, and the size decrease is from stripping things ;) |
| 11:00.45 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r6738 10fyre/ (BUGS data/explorer.glade src/explorer-about.c): silly scanline, hooking up delete-event all wrong |
| 11:01.20 | scanline | O:-) |
| 11:01.48 | purple_cow | your turn to solve a crasher ;) |
| 11:02.09 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03micah * r6739 10fyre/README: Update this a bit.. mention cluster autodetection, redo the short section on the windows build system, and change the deps a bit |
| 11:02.29 | scanline | the .zip releases are going to be a bit tricky |
| 11:02.48 | scanline | I want them to have shortcuts for running fyre and the rendering server with the right paths |
| 11:03.02 | scanline | but I don't know of a command line tool to create windows shortcuts |
| 11:04.51 | scanline | "There is a utility supplied with the Windows NT Server Resource Kit Version 4.0 Supplement One (phew) called shortcut.exe which can be used to create .lnk files. The application is quite powerful, and allows you to specify not only the resource to link to, but also an icon etc." |
| 11:04.52 | scanline | hmm |
| 11:05.18 | scanline | there has got to be a simpler way... |
| 11:06.07 | scanline | where's TD[gone] when you need him? :) |
| 11:44.27 | scanline | ooooh |
| 11:47.13 | scanline | oh. bah, that's not what I want |
| 11:51.13 | scanline | yay, a .lnk file |
| 11:51.15 | scanline | that was disgusting |
| 12:19.10 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03micah * r6740 10fyre/build/ (. dist-win32.sh shlink.c): These windows .lnk files are driving me nuts. This is a somewhat working implementation that compiles a windows binary then runs it in wine, but it's resulting in .lnk files without a valid relative path. |
| 12:29.28 | scanline | sigh.. |
| 12:29.45 | scanline | I think I'm going to have to write my own .lnk files from scratch |
| 12:30.03 | scanline | wine's implementation just refuses to grok relative paths |
| 12:43.55 | samyb | macminiservers.com |
| 13:18.08 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03micah * r6741 10fyre/build/ (dist-win32.sh shlink.c winlink.py): |
| 13:18.08 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: Replace shlink.c, the creepy wine hack, with a .lnk writer written in pure |
| 13:18.08 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: python. It only understands a tiny subset of the format, but it's enough to fake |
| 13:18.08 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: it and make working shortcut files. Currently the icons don't show up right |
| 13:18.08 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: until windows "fixes" the shortcut. |
| 13:56.01 | *** join/#tacobeam orchid (orchid@orchid.user) |
| 14:04.46 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03micah * r6742 10fyre/src/ (Makefile.am fyre.rc main.c x-fyre-animation.ico): Add a windows version of the x-fyre-animation icon, add an undocumented --chdir command line option that just changes directories. It will be used internally to implement windows file associations. |
| 14:36.10 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03micah * r6743 10fyre/ (build/dist-win32.sh src/explorer-animation.c src/main.c): Open the animation window by default if we start out with an animation open. Fix --chdir. Started setting up windows file associations- probably done except for a bug in "Open With..." |
| 14:41.16 | scanline | gah, fucking windows... |
| 14:41.42 | scanline | the .png files are stuck to IE with glue or something |
| 14:41.44 | scanline | hi file[laptop] |
| 14:42.02 | file[laptop] | got the Windows blues? |
| 14:43.26 | scanline | well, for the most part this is working really well |
| 14:43.33 | scanline | just got a small handful of bugs left |
| 14:44.11 | scanline | I think I might actually be doing this right, but that win2k doesn't support it |
| 14:47.38 | scanline | I was really pulling my hair out over these shortcut files |
| 14:47.53 | scanline | NSIS does just fine at creating the ones in the start menu and the desktop and such.. |
| 14:48.01 | scanline | but I wanted shortcuts in my .zip release too |
| 14:48.33 | scanline | tried various combinations of windows, wine, and calls to IShellLink and couldn't get it to generate relative paths |
| 14:48.45 | scanline | so I ended up writing a little Python script to assemble .lnk files from scratch :P |
| 14:49.01 | file[laptop] | hehe |
| 14:50.28 | scanline | it's cool though.. I have a shell script that collects all the various cross-compiled binaries, documentation, and data together and generates .zip and .exe releases |
| 14:50.30 | scanline | runs nsis in wine :) |
| 14:51.25 | scanline | aha |
| 14:51.37 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03micah * r6744 10fyre/build/dist-win32.sh: Fix "Open in Fyre" for PNG files |
| 14:52.17 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03micah * r6745 10fyre/TODO: Scratch off windows file associations and the automatic packaging script |
| 14:58.03 | *** join/#tacobeam Secret|away (SecretMeth@uac-182-89.uac-resnet.depaul.edu) |
| 15:28.02 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03micah * r6746 10fyre/build/ (dist-win32.sh gtkrc-win32): Add support for libwimp, so Fyre doesn't look quite so odd in windows |
| 15:35.59 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03micah * r6747 10fyre/build/dist-win32.sh: Whoops, forgot libglade and libxml2. I didn't notice this earlier because I had a separate gtk installation on my test machine until now. |
| 15:46.58 | scanline | blehh |
| 15:47.08 | scanline | openexr is really unfriendly to cross-compiling |
| 15:53.12 | *** topic/#tacobeam by scanline -> Testers wanted: http://flapjack.navi.cx/releases/fyre/win32-beta/ |
| 16:23.34 | file | works peachy |
| 16:25.38 | *** join/#tacobeam pagefault (~pagefault@67.71.46.49) |
| 16:26.04 | file | hail pagefault |
| 16:27.08 | pagefault | hello |
| 16:28.08 | file | this pizza is too big... |
| 16:30.16 | pagefault | mmm pizza |
| 16:30.29 | file | it's good though |
| 16:50.53 | Sophie- | lousy movie, great score. |
| 16:54.21 | Sophie- | ever kiss a puppy's soft, round belly? |
| 16:54.30 | Sophie- | it's really rewarding. |
| 16:56.28 | pagefault | yay pizza |
| 16:56.48 | file[laptop] | and garlic fingers |
| 17:02.28 | pagefault | yum |
| 17:26.40 | ToyKeeper | file: I'll take the "too big" portion of that pizza off your hands... |
| 17:26.42 | ToyKeeper | :) |
| 17:31.27 | file[laptop] | ToyKeeper: please allow 6-8 weeks for delivery |
| 17:32.08 | ToyKeeper | But.. didn't you read that RFC? You know, pizza-over-IP? Get with it, man. |
| 17:32.19 | file[laptop] | I just do voice-over-IP I'm afraid |
| 17:36.00 | file[laptop] | fear my IAX2 voice packets! |
| 17:36.43 | *** join/#tacobeam JeffM2501 (~JeffM@Patlabor221.active.supporter.pdpc) |
| 17:37.53 | file[laptop] | eek |
| 17:38.10 | pagefault | silly me |
| 17:38.15 | pagefault | I didn't have frame burst turned on for wifi |
| 17:38.40 | file[laptop] | yes, very silly |
| 17:38.54 | pagefault | I should probably fix the location of my AP though |
| 17:38.56 | *** join/#tacobeam Samy (~samy@212.76.88.101) |
| 17:39.00 | pagefault | I keep dropping my connection |
| 17:39.07 | pagefault | it's under a mass of wires and crap right now |
| 17:40.52 | ToyKeeper | I'd be happy if I just had decent drivers... madwifi blows, unless there's no other traffic on the network. |
| 17:41.11 | file[laptop] | :( |
| 17:41.33 | pagefault | what card do you have? |
| 17:41.39 | pagefault | thats it |
| 17:41.42 | pagefault | I need to clean my notebook's lcd |
| 17:43.04 | file[laptop] | ToyKeeper: I have an intel minipci card here I could send you |
| 17:43.22 | pagefault | me too |
| 17:43.26 | pagefault | I have my old 802.11b intel card |
| 17:43.30 | pagefault | it's worth like $20 now |
| 17:43.32 | file[laptop] | yeah |
| 17:43.43 | file[laptop] | you can get the 802.11g one from frontierpc.com for, i think it's $45 CAD |
| 17:44.02 | pagefault | I paid $99 for it when it came out from dell |
| 17:44.03 | pagefault | :/ |
| 17:44.12 | ToyKeeper | I haven't decided whether to get a $30 intel 2200bg, buy a $50 prism54, or just deal with an atheros with bad drivers. |
| 17:44.31 | pagefault | the linux drivers are pretty good for the intel cards |
| 17:44.34 | pagefault | they have matured fast |
| 17:44.34 | file[laptop] | I've found the 2200bg works fine and dandy |
| 17:44.46 | file[laptop] | ineed |
| 17:44.47 | file[laptop] | er indeed |
| 17:45.00 | pagefault | I think my 2100 had a bit better range though |
| 17:45.01 | ToyKeeper | The prism54 would be nice, but I can't find one except inside a netgear AP. |
| 17:45.01 | pagefault | but bleh |
| 17:45.37 | pagefault | it's cool how the 2200 saves power by dropping the link speed |
| 17:45.39 | pagefault | if you aren't using it |
| 17:45.49 | ToyKeeper | file: can you use hostap and kismet on that 2200? |
| 17:46.08 | file[laptop] | hostap is only for prism stuff... |
| 17:46.16 | file[laptop] | or is it... |
| 17:46.22 | ToyKeeper | I should probably just get the 2200bg, if I can find a pic to make sure my antenna will reach its connectors. |
| 17:46.22 | pagefault | what does hostap do? |
| 17:46.41 | file[laptop] | yeah it's only for prism |
| 17:46.52 | ToyKeeper | Er, not necessarily hostap, but any similar "access point" mode. |
| 17:47.00 | pagefault | monitor mode? |
| 17:47.15 | ToyKeeper | Yeah... that's the word. :0 |
| 17:47.16 | ToyKeeper | :) even |
| 17:47.26 | pagefault | the 2100 does monitor mode in linux |
| 17:47.35 | pagefault | but the 2200bg still doesn't have driver support for it |
| 17:48.01 | ToyKeeper | 'k. How about promiscuous mode in libpcap and/or kismet? |
| 17:48.10 | pagefault | 2100 supports it |
| 17:48.12 | pagefault | 2200 not yet |
| 17:48.28 | file[laptop] | ToyKeeper: you should write the stuff so the 2200bg supports it!!! |
| 17:48.36 | pagefault | 2100 is much more mature |
| 17:48.52 | ToyKeeper | That's b-only, right? |
| 17:48.55 | file[laptop] | yes |
| 17:48.57 | pagefault | but it shouldn't be long until the 2200 catches up |
| 17:49.25 | pagefault | they do a new driver release every 15 days or so |
| 17:49.27 | ToyKeeper | I'll probably grab a 2200 then. I've found it for as little as $27.33. (minipci) |
| 17:49.42 | pagefault | ipw2220.sf.net |
| 17:49.44 | pagefault | err |
| 17:49.45 | pagefault | 2200 |
| 17:49.49 | file[laptop] | http://www.frontierpc.com/ProductDetail.aspx?productID=2043968697 |
| 17:49.59 | file[laptop] | sorta kinda accurate pic |
| 17:50.14 | ToyKeeper | It's too bad madwifi hasn't improved much. The atheros stuff is pretty decent except for the drivers. |
| 17:50.42 | file[laptop] | yeah that's where the antenna connectors are in mine |
| 17:51.01 | ToyKeeper | Spiff. My antennas will reach there. :) |
| 17:51.03 | ToyKeeper | That sounded wrong. |
| 17:51.07 | file[laptop] | lol |
| 17:51.14 | pagefault | the ABG card is pretty spiffy too |
| 17:51.45 | ToyKeeper | Anyway, the moment someone else on the network starts to actually, uh, transfer data... madwifi freaks out and drops connection. |
| 17:52.02 | file[laptop] | that's sucky |
| 17:52.04 | pagefault | low battery, red light flashing how rude |
| 17:52.05 | file[laptop] | must make you... mad! |
| 17:53.28 | file[laptop] | pagefault: you're up to something... |
| 17:53.38 | pagefault | really? |
| 17:53.43 | file[laptop] | yes... |
| 17:53.50 | pagefault | how can you tell? |
| 17:53.53 | file[laptop] | ./linux (eric) [cat] |
| 17:54.04 | pagefault | oh spying |
| 17:54.09 | file[laptop] | yessssss |
| 17:54.16 | pagefault | I am installing wiki |
| 17:54.24 | file[laptop] | ah |
| 17:54.40 | ToyKeeper | ... gettin' wiki wit it? |
| 17:54.45 | pagefault | yep |
| 17:54.48 | file[laptop] | ToyKeeper: that was horrible |
| 17:55.00 | pagefault | someone wants to use wiki to make documents |
| 17:56.03 | file[laptop] | your new name is Johnny Pineapple |
| 17:56.19 | pagefault | see like right now |
| 17:56.23 | pagefault | the network card dropped to 24mbit |
| 17:56.35 | pagefault | so I assume it's saving power |
| 17:56.37 | file[laptop] | I'm at a solid 54.0 Mbps |
| 17:56.51 | file[laptop] | so it tells me. |
| 17:57.10 | file[laptop] | pagefault: is there anything good on? |
| 17:57.14 | ToyKeeper | I'm lucky if I can keep madwifi at 5-6mbps. :( |
| 17:57.50 | pagefault | file[laptop], no idea |
| 17:57.57 | pagefault | see I just turned off power management |
| 17:58.00 | pagefault | and I have a full 54 :) |
| 17:58.04 | file[laptop] | I'm down to 48.0 Mbps |
| 17:58.52 | pagefault | I hate it when people use the microwave |
| 17:58.55 | pagefault | and I drop down to like 2 |
| 17:59.26 | file[laptop] | eek lurgyness detected |
| 17:59.39 | pagefault | would be nice to use the VHF range |
| 17:59.40 | pagefault | get tv off it |
| 17:59.51 | file[laptop] | pagefault: my parents got Bell Expressvu |
| 17:59.59 | file[laptop] | pagefault: ...hacked! |
| 18:00.14 | pagefault | pirates! |
| 18:00.26 | file[laptop] | it's using some sort of embedded chip... |
| 18:00.30 | file[laptop] | it has a JTAG connector too |
| 18:00.37 | file[laptop] | (the card... that is in it) |
| 18:00.38 | pagefault | is it running an emulator? |
| 18:01.40 | file[laptop] | pagefault: Seaquest |
| 18:02.11 | pagefault | a psychic tries to take over seaquest |
| 18:02.14 | pagefault | sounds stupid |
| 18:02.33 | file[laptop] | did you know that Dagwood and Piccolo (the actors that play them I mean) are actually brothers? |
| 18:02.41 | pagefault | really? |
| 18:02.44 | file[laptop] | yes |
| 18:02.49 | pagefault | interesting |
| 18:02.54 | file[laptop] | Peter and Michael Deluise |
| 18:04.09 | pagefault | why does the dolphin get credits |
| 18:04.22 | file[laptop] | eh why not? |
| 18:04.38 | pagefault | dunno |
| 18:04.46 | pagefault | ooh free microsoft software |
| 18:04.55 | file[laptop] | oh wow! FREE! |
| 18:04.57 | file[laptop] | CALL NOW! |
| 18:04.58 | pagefault | more like "we can't sell you a PC without it" |
| 18:05.05 | file[laptop] | indeed |
| 18:05.29 | file[laptop] | pagefault: so Darwin wasn't a real dolphin |
| 18:05.40 | pagefault | what |
| 18:05.44 | pagefault | it looks real to me |
| 18:06.01 | file[laptop] | he was... a robot! |
| 18:06.17 | pagefault | well I guess that makes sense |
| 18:06.21 | pagefault | it probably would have been too expensive |
| 18:06.31 | file[laptop] | aye |
| 18:06.34 | pagefault | haha cruise trek |
| 18:07.55 | file[laptop] | well this is very very interesting |
| 18:10.16 | pagefault | what a far fetched story |
| 18:10.58 | file[laptop] | it's seaquest, what did you expect? |
| 18:11.25 | pagefault | I really don't like that lucas guy |
| 18:15.43 | lurgy | you know what's not funny? |
| 18:15.44 | lurgy | vapor lock |
| 18:15.56 | pagefault | haha simpsons |
| 18:16.33 | lurgy | :) |
| 18:16.39 | file[laptop] | lurgy: lurgyness! |
| 18:17.45 | file[laptop] | Simpsons won't be on for a bit... :( |
| 18:25.08 | file[laptop] | hi slimspace |
| 18:25.16 | slimspace | hi file[laptop] |
| 18:32.10 | file[laptop] | pagefault: this is weird, even for seaquest |
| 19:00.19 | file[laptop] | oh looky, a PCI Express vid card for $149 |
| 19:00.42 | file[laptop] | 256MB DDR... mmm |
| 19:10.19 | file[laptop] | I also need a sound card... hrm yes |
| 19:25.21 | purple_cow | wow, it's snowing |
| 19:29.43 | lurgy | eek snow |
| 19:37.32 | purple_cow | hahahaha |
| 19:37.42 | purple_cow | paul mccartney has promised no wardrobe failures at the halftime show |
| 19:41.08 | ToyKeeper | Hmm.. I mumbled "already got those", but heard "arigato". Maybe I've been watching too much anime. |
| 19:41.19 | purple_cow | heh |
| 19:42.03 | purple_cow | "too much" is highly dependent on which anime |
| 19:42.13 | Samy | Any of you with CSS foo'? |
| 19:42.30 | Samy | I have a logo class defined, with a vertical-align: middle; property |
| 19:42.48 | Samy | For some reason with firefox, this image is not being centered though. |
| 19:42.58 | Samy | Though, I specifically defined <IMG class="logo" ... |
| 19:43.03 | Samy | Any ideas? |
| 19:43.47 | ToyKeeper | Samy: http://www.w3schools.com/css/css_reference.asp |
| 19:44.06 | purple_cow | ToyKeeper: again, it depends on which ;) |
| 19:44.14 | Samy | ToyKeeper: The property is correct.:) |
| 19:44.25 | Samy | Oh, but that's a really nice reference |
| 19:44.26 | Samy | :D |
| 19:44.40 | ToyKeeper | Maybe its container just isn't big enough? |
| 19:45.04 | ToyKeeper | purple_cow: http://toykeeper.net/media/anime.php ... for the curious |
| 19:45.13 | Samy | ToyKeeper: The container is the body. |
| 19:45.50 | ToyKeeper | Hmm. It's been a while since I updated my anime db. ... bleh, don't want to do it now though. |
| 19:47.59 | *** join/#tacobeam darth_mall (~evan@128.138.74.40) |
| 19:48.10 | file[laptop] | darth_mall! |
| 19:48.33 | lurgy | 128.138.74.40! |
| 19:56.21 | darth_mall | purple_cow: how's navi doing? |
| 19:57.59 | purple_cow | darth_mall: i've got a fair portion of the backup restored. you can mount 00-09 with the exception of 05 |
| 19:59.29 | darth_mall | mk |
| 20:10.04 | lurgy | lalala.. |
| 20:10.29 | file | lurgy: dance dance revolution! |
| 20:10.37 | lurgy | file: no |
| 20:10.44 | file | :( lurgy makes me sad |
| 20:11.30 | *** topic/#tacobeam by lurgy -> Thank you for not sneezing. || you are NOT welcome. |
| 20:11.41 | lurgy | heh, hmm |
| 20:11.59 | file | I can't stay mad at you for long |
| 20:12.19 | *** topic/#tacobeam by lurgy -> Thank you for not sneezing. || you are NOT welcome. || no smiling, no dancing, no having fun |
| 20:12.43 | file | darn :( |
| 20:13.03 | lurgy | so it seems |
| 20:13.23 | ChipX86 | hey file |
| 20:13.35 | file | ChipX86: how are you Mr. Hammond? |
| 20:13.47 | ChipX86 | good |
| 20:14.10 | *** topic/#tacobeam by purple_cow -> Thank you for not sneezing. || you are NOT welcome. || no smiling, no dancing, no having fun || Testers wanted: http://flapjack.navi.cx/releases/fyre/win32-beta/ |
| 20:14.22 | ChipX86 | oooh testers |
| 20:15.05 | Soph_nap | :D |
| 20:16.28 | file | lurgy: bye bye |
| 20:17.26 | Soph_Smiley | s/at/as |
| 20:17.42 | Soph_Smiley | doh, other way around |
| 20:18.06 | Soph_Smiley | err *confused* |
| 20:18.36 | Soph_Smiley | at, I meant. |
| 20:20.45 | darth_mall | hf lurgy |
| 20:20.57 | darth_mall | silly Sophie ^^ |
| 20:21.23 | Sophie_ | goddam that other Sophie. |
| 20:23.24 | purple_cow | hmm |
| 20:23.28 | purple_cow | my coffee sense is tingling |
| 20:23.29 | darth_mall | hi slimspace |
| 20:23.36 | darth_mall | purple_cow: it has cinnamon in it |
| 20:24.01 | purple_cow | :( |
| 20:24.32 | slimspace | hey darth_mall |
| 20:25.09 | darth_mall | slimspace of doom! |
| 20:25.21 | purple_cow | darth_mall: mmk |
| 20:25.22 | Sophie_ | pfft. |
| 20:28.53 | darth_mall | pfft? |
| 20:29.09 | Sophie_ | pfft. |
| 20:29.16 | ChipX86 | http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/features/20050204-0436-superbowl-cerealauction.html |
| 20:29.22 | ChipX86 | that right there is the definition of stupidity |
| 20:31.19 | purple_cow | hehehe |
| 20:31.32 | Sophie_ | oh man, I need $765 right away |
| 20:31.35 | Sophie_ | can someone spot me? |
| 20:31.50 | ChipX86 | for what? |
| 20:32.01 | Sophie_ | heh |
| 20:32.18 | Sophie_ | nevermind. |
| 20:32.27 | Sophie_ | it was a dumb joke |
| 20:32.53 | ChipX86 | oh, the cereal |
| 20:33.24 | ChipX86 | my brain switched trains of thought |
| 20:35.00 | darth_mall | heh... I remember seeing that grilled cheese they talk about |
| 20:35.56 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 20:36.06 | Sophie_ | man, religion is the racket I need to be in. |
| 20:36.19 | Sophie_ | there's good money in that scam. |
| 20:36.43 | ChipX86 | are you calling rackets a scam? |
| 20:36.58 | purple_cow | wow |
| 20:36.59 | purple_cow | http://www.eurekalert.org/images/release_graphics/vu013105.jpg |
| 20:37.06 | ChipX86 | ack |
| 20:37.07 | ChipX86 | what is htat? |
| 20:37.52 | purple_cow | a star-nosed mole |
| 20:38.01 | ChipX86 | that is frightening |
| 20:38.02 | Sophie_ | who wants to join my church? |
| 20:38.08 | purple_cow | http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2005-02/vu-mmg013105.php |
| 20:38.08 | ChipX86 | me |
| 20:38.10 | ChipX86 | who are we worshipping? |
| 20:38.50 | Sophie_ | you haven't progressed far enough in enlightenment to receive that information yet. |
| 20:38.55 | ChipX86 | coooool |
| 20:41.11 | darth_mall | hmmm... |
| 20:42.00 | darth_mall | Sophie_: can I be in your religion and continue my voo doo practices? |
| 20:42.29 | Sophie_ | not if I know about it. |
| 20:42.42 | darth_mall | ok, I just won't tell you |
| 20:42.49 | Sophie_ | or else it'll just cost extra |
| 20:43.07 | ChipX86 | I should do something with this fine spring day |
| 20:44.12 | Sophie_ | OK, as your spiritual guide, I'm down with that |
| 20:44.40 | Sophie_ | if you see any squirrels, it's a sign to you |
| 20:44.54 | ChipX86 | squirrels!! |
| 20:45.20 | Sophie_ | no, no, a good sign. |
| 20:45.29 | ChipX86 | you obviously don't know my issues with squirrels |
| 20:45.37 | ChipX86 | they drop things on me |
| 20:45.42 | ChipX86 | snails and pine cones |
| 20:46.54 | purple_cow | ChipX86: hehe, i thought that was just a local phenomenon :) |
| 20:47.00 | darth_mall | purple_cow: that mole is neat |
| 20:48.11 | darth_mall | purple_cow: wanna see something kinda weird? |
| 20:48.14 | Sophie_ | brb |
| 20:48.19 | purple_cow | darth_mall: maybe |
| 20:48.35 | darth_mall | c'mere |
| 20:57.49 | darth_mall | I didn't realize how much I missed it until I got it back ^^ |
| 20:57.52 | Samy | http://tinyurl.com/6tz6q |
| 20:57.56 | Samy | Path optimization gone to hell. |
| 20:59.16 | darth_mall | that's cute |
| 21:00.41 | purple_cow | hmm. i should do some school stuff |
| 21:18.22 | purple_cow | http://userfriendly.org/ |
| 21:18.47 | file[laptop] | LOL |
| 21:19.32 | darth_mall | hehehe |
| 21:27.04 | Sophie_ | who's Rick Berman? |
| 21:27.21 | purple_cow | Sophie_: the asshat who ruined star trek |
| 21:27.22 | file[laptop] | creator and executive producer |
| 21:27.37 | file[laptop] | indeed |
| 21:27.59 | Sophie_ | how's it ruined? Aside from that horrible theme song? |
| 21:28.19 | purple_cow | Sophie_: did you see the last movie? or voyager? or enterprise? |
| 21:28.39 | Sophie_ | not really. Never really liked Star Trek. |
| 21:29.00 | Sophie_ | I'm just curious |
| 21:30.05 | purple_cow | hmm, bastards. it looks like the cd drive didn't make it out of CA today along with the machine :( |
| 21:30.33 | purple_cow | but despite that... |
| 21:30.42 | purple_cow | COMMERCE CITY, CO, US ARRIVAL SCAN |
| 21:30.43 | purple_cow | =D |
| 21:30.47 | darth_mall | liar |
| 21:30.55 | darth_mall | purple_cow: what kind of cd drive does it have? |
| 21:31.11 | darth_mall | if mine is compatible you could use it if you need for installing junk |
| 21:31.24 | purple_cow | i think the power port is different |
| 21:31.31 | Sophie_ | personally, I liked Stargate more, and Farscape seemed promising |
| 21:31.35 | purple_cow | does yours have other power options? |
| 21:31.59 | Sophie_ | and Firefly was really good. Even Lexx was better. |
| 21:32.06 | purple_cow | firefly was fantastic :) |
| 21:32.19 | purple_cow | lexx was godawful after the first 4 episodes ;) |
| 21:32.33 | darth_mall | purple_cow: I don't think it does |
| 21:32.59 | purple_cow | k |
| 21:33.01 | Sophie_ | it was more original, though |
| 21:33.14 | Sophie_ | star trek was always the same damn thing (basically) |
| 21:33.20 | purple_cow | mine will be able to use either the powered usb port, an external wall wart+usb, or 2x usb :) |
| 21:34.20 | Sophie_ | uh oh, the holodeck went haywire! Uh oh, an incorporeal alien species is threatened by us and manifesting in bizaar ways! |
| 21:34.22 | purple_cow | even if the drive doesn't come, i should be able to do a boot either off the network or my usb stick to get linux installing |
| 21:34.41 | purple_cow | oh no! evil lincoln! |
| 21:35.13 | Sophie_ | we need a giant stone john wilks booth! |
| 21:35.24 | darth_mall | purple_cow: ^^ |
| 21:37.13 | Sophie_ | kinda like that space lesbians idea, though. |
| 21:41.53 | darth_mall | nope |
| 21:42.06 | darth_mall | and now I'm distracted by hw |
| 21:46.03 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r6748 10fyre/ (5 files in 3 dirs): no need to have ENABLE_BINRELOC in both CFLAGS and config.h. also add in required fields to .desktop files |
| 21:46.15 | purple_cow | yay. no warnings :) |
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| 22:06.43 | purple_cow | mornin' |
| 22:06.46 | scanline | hi |
| 22:11.21 | scanline | purple_cow: I'm tempted to forget about OpenEXR on windows. It's a pain in the ass to compile, I doubt we have any users that care about it, and it will make the releases a good bit larger |
| 22:12.51 | ChipX86 | huh, the S-Video isn't working so well on gaea |
| 22:13.24 | purple_cow | scanline: works for me |
| 22:22.06 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03micah * r6749 10fyre/BUGS: Don't worry about OpenEXR under windows- it's a lot more trouble than it's worth right now |
| 22:22.25 | scanline | ooh, it's chipX86 |
| 22:22.30 | scanline | and chipX86 has a windows machine |
| 22:24.50 | ChipX86 | which is not working right now |
| 22:24.55 | ChipX86 | it's being a pain in the ass |
| 22:24.59 | ChipX86 | the video output is screwed up |
| 22:25.05 | ChipX86 | and I can only turn it on half the time |
| 22:25.28 | ChipX86 | the S-Video is very messed up |
| 22:25.40 | purple_cow | scanline: i'll have a windows machine tomorrow night =D |
| 22:25.42 | ChipX86 | I get a black and white image that keeps rolling on the screen |
| 22:26.03 | ChipX86 | I feel like scrapping this whole box and starting from scratch |
| 22:29.33 | scanline | chipX86: =( |
| 22:29.35 | scanline | purple_cow: =D |
| 22:31.04 | scanline | it'd be nice to make sure it at least has all the required DLLs before taking it to campus ;) |
| 22:33.20 | scanline | ah well. I think after coffee and some more bug fixing I'll do that |
| 22:33.28 | scanline | i can always ssh in and do another build if something's wrong |
| 22:37.05 | purple_cow | hmm. what other bugs are there? |
| 22:37.22 | purple_cow | other than the one in BUGS |
| 22:37.23 | scanline | there's that weird crasher I found under windows |
| 22:37.25 | scanline | yeah |
| 22:37.43 | purple_cow | yay! only one bug! |
| 22:37.45 | purple_cow | damn we're good ;) |
| 22:38.02 | ChipX86 | computers suck. |
| 22:38.09 | scanline | hehe |
| 22:38.11 | purple_cow | ChipX86: yep |
| 22:40.53 | darth_mall | mooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo |
| 22:41.24 | ToyKeeper | Swallow one of those cow-magnets? |
| 22:42.30 | purple_cow | wowie! |
| 22:42.36 | purple_cow | felicitation beyond measure! |
| 22:42.49 | purple_cow | the package of cheese i bought for sammiches had 10 slices instead of the usual 8! |
| 22:43.24 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03micah * r6750 10fyre/build/dist-win32.sh: Add a YYYYMMDD date stamp to builds with "svn" in the version. The result is now something like fyre-0.9svn-20050206.(exe|zip) |
| 22:50.29 | scanline | yay for PNGs in windows having "Open in Fyre" |
| 22:50.57 | purple_cow | :) |
| 22:51.04 | purple_cow | yay for PNGs in nautilus having "Open in Fyre" |
| 22:51.07 | scanline | yay |
| 22:51.17 | scanline | yay for having a non-ugly 32x32 conversion of the .fa icon |
| 22:53.32 | ChipX86 | piece of crap computer |
| 22:54.38 | scanline | =( |
| 22:55.30 | ChipX86 | if I could get s-video working, I'd move to linux today |
| 22:56.14 | file[laptop] | or tomorrow. |
| 22:57.44 | purple_cow | yay for harry macgyver living in colorado |
| 22:58.20 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03micah * r6751 10fyre/build/upload-release.sh: Add a script that automatically files the output of dist-win32.sh on flapjack |
| 22:59.48 | purple_cow | err, i guess his last name is "jackson". that's silly |
| 23:00.52 | scanline | oh. I probably had a stripped build last time I tried gdb on this |
| 23:02.26 | darth_mall | I should probably make a trip to Safeway today, if anyone else is insterested |
| 23:03.44 | darth_mall | no you're not, you're a liar! |
| 23:03.52 | darth_mall | or are you? |
| 23:04.06 | purple_cow | maybe i am, or maybe I AM! |
| 23:04.20 | ChipX86 | so tempted to go to Frys and get a new Geforce card |
| 23:04.30 | ChipX86 | then put linux on this |
| 23:05.07 | scanline | makes sense to me |
| 23:05.20 | ChipX86 | yeah.. |
| 23:05.33 | darth_mall | ChipX86: monkeys? |
| 23:05.33 | ChipX86 | I'm just so frustrated right now |
| 23:06.11 | ToyKeeper | Monkeys are pretty frustrating. |
| 23:06.43 | ChipX86 | going to go shopping.. |
| 23:06.47 | ChipX86 | for food stuff |
| 23:06.47 | ChipX86 | bbl |
| 23:07.02 | scanline | ahh |
| 23:07.22 | scanline | the gdb that I was using didn't come with cygwin, it was from dev-c++'s toolchain |
| 23:08.24 | darth_mall | doo doo doo, makin' perdy plots, doo doo doo |
| 23:08.33 | purple_cow | hehe |
| 23:09.28 | scanline | hmm.... |
| 23:10.23 | scanline | ah yes |
| 23:12.24 | hardwire | ChipX86: what was that crazy ATX case you ordered? |
| 23:12.33 | hardwire | the set top looking one |
| 23:13.12 | file[laptop] | eek hardwire |
| 23:13.20 | file[laptop] | hardwire: I found a snom softphone for Windows... it is scary |
| 23:13.23 | hardwire | I beat Jak II today :) |
| 23:13.28 | hardwire | I am all happy |
| 23:13.36 | darth_mall | yay hardwire |
| 23:13.36 | hardwire | file[laptop]: like.. PPC EMU? |
| 23:13.44 | file[laptop] | I dunno, haven't explored it yet |
| 23:13.45 | hardwire | I wanna go buy Jak III |
| 23:13.49 | hardwire | but.. my g/f would destroy me. |
| 23:13.56 | darth_mall | oooh destroy |
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| 23:23.14 | zak | darth_mall: will you either lend me swagger and within a mile of home or re-rip them as mp3? |
| 23:23.38 | purple_cow | silly zak, getting portable players that don't support ogg |
| 23:24.00 | scanline | yes! |
| 23:26.50 | scanline | wow, that's creepy |
| 23:27.32 | scanline | just for the hell of it, I tried enabling the remote GUI while using clustering |
| 23:27.38 | scanline | you change the image size locally, and the window on the remote machine resizes :) |
| 23:27.47 | purple_cow | hehe |
| 23:28.02 | scanline | and it blanks out every time there's a histogram merge of course |
| 23:28.07 | scanline | so it's kind of flashy |
| 23:29.15 | scanline | damnit |
| 23:29.19 | scanline | win2k bluescreened |
| 23:29.25 | scanline | in the network driver again... |
| 23:29.34 | purple_cow | hehe |
| 23:29.51 | scanline | crazy thing... the exact same driver has worked great under ndiswrapper |
| 23:29.54 | scanline | must be a win2k bug |
| 23:31.03 | zak | phhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhht |
| 23:31.42 | scanline | hmm |
| 23:32.43 | zak | scanline: i do |
| 23:32.49 | zak | why? |
| 23:33.59 | zak | i never boot my windows machine though, but i have been meaning too |
| 23:34.15 | zak | i have some music on there i want for my non-ogg playing music widget |
| 23:34.17 | scanline | it's not a big deal, but if you're in windows any time soon I could use people to test that |
| 23:34.24 | zak | my brother will |
| 23:34.55 | scanline | the .exe is recommended, but if you don't want to install anything you can run it straight from the .zip |
| 23:37.27 | ChipX86 | hardwire: it was from SilverStone |
| 23:37.34 | zak | my brother is so useful at answering the phone |
| 23:37.46 | ChipX86 | http://www.silverstonetek.com/products-lc03v.htm |
| 23:39.25 | scanline | that has an awful lot of fans to be a good STB |
| 23:39.41 | ChipX86 | this thing doesn't run very hot, and the fans are silent |
| 23:39.41 | scanline | and do you really want super-high-britghtness LEDs on a STB? |
| 23:40.11 | scanline | it's pretty, it just seems a bit on the bulky side :) |
| 23:40.19 | ChipX86 | I love it |
| 23:40.24 | ChipX86 | I just hate the computer inside |
| 23:40.29 | scanline | hehe |
| 23:42.20 | ChipX86 | ok, going to spend more money on this piece of shit |
| 23:42.24 | ChipX86 | bbl |
| 23:42.35 | zak | ChipX86: ha |
| 23:50.08 | purple_cow | ooh, i've hit 2005 |
| 23:51.45 | scanline | hmm |
| 23:51.52 | scanline | so the about box bug is definitely not gone |
| 23:51.56 | scanline | but I think I'm getting close to it |
| 23:52.00 | file[laptop] | woot Mythbusters marathon |
| 23:52.16 | scanline | purple_cow: I think in addition to the one you found, there's a problem with the screensaver drawing to windows that aren't mapped |
| 23:52.32 | purple_cow | hmm |
| 23:53.09 | purple_cow | ooh, i think this is the one where they drug macgyver up and he goes all hallucinogey |
| 23:54.22 | scanline | hehe |
| 23:54.59 | scanline | ooh, that's a good sign.. I can close the standalone screensaver window without a crash |
| 23:55.38 | scanline | ahhh |
| 23:55.42 | scanline | and now I'm getting better error messages |
| 23:55.56 | scanline | it looks like after closing it with the close box, the widgets have been destroyed rather than just hidden |
| 23:57.09 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03micah * r6752 10fyre/src/ (explorer-about.c screensaver.c screensaver.h): Add some better methods for starting/stopping the screensaver object, and only draw if GTK_WIDGET_DRAWABLE(self->view) |
| 23:58.20 | scanline | hm |
| 23:58.27 | scanline | shouldn't on_about_close_window have a return value? |
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| 23:59.42 | file | hi pagefault |
