| 00:05.25 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r6631 10bzedit/scripts/BZFlag/ (Box.py Object.py): more implementation of base-class stubs |
| 00:07.51 | ChipX86 | wtf is with me today. I keep double-clicking the window icon to close the window |
| 00:07.55 | ChipX86 | and it doesn't work :P |
| 00:09.05 | scanline | hehe |
| 00:10.34 | scanline | reST is so cool |
| 00:10.55 | scanline | I mean, compare: |
| 00:10.56 | scanline | http://navi.cx/svn/misc/trunk/cia/doc/budget |
| 00:10.59 | scanline | http://cia.navi.cx/doc/budget |
| 00:11.02 | scanline | readable either way :) |
| 00:11.28 | scanline | it's like wiki formatting but even cooler, and with a nice parser package in Python |
| 00:12.02 | purple_cow | mmm |
| 00:14.40 | purple_cow | yay, no one lives forever |
| 00:14.54 | *** join/#tacobeam merlin{yokohama} (~andrew@utdpat241039.utdallas.edu) |
| 00:15.04 | scanline | how's the badblocks doing? |
| 00:15.23 | purple_cow | at about 23M/29M on the readback |
| 00:15.38 | purple_cow | dunno if it's going to do more than one pattern |
| 00:15.45 | scanline | 29M? |
| 00:15.48 | purple_cow | Mblocks |
| 00:15.51 | scanline | ahh |
| 00:16.40 | scanline | this year there's a $1000 prize |
| 00:17.08 | scanline | I could probably whip up a paper on low-power software TNCs |
| 00:21.26 | darth_mall | mmm... whip |
| 00:21.36 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r6632 10bzedit/scripts/BZFlag/Box.py: copy over some more code |
| 00:26.30 | scanline | huh.. "school address".. |
| 00:26.46 | scanline | do they want the school itself, spacegrant, or what? |
| 00:26.48 | darth_mall | 12345 dumbass row |
| 00:26.52 | darth_mall | ^^ |
| 00:26.55 | scanline | darth_mall: ok |
| 00:27.00 | slimspace | scanline: got a design question for you...In our ground software, we'll eventually need to be able to represent warning and critical levels of sensors. Any idea how we could do that while still allowing the gsw to not have to know anything before hand about the hardware? |
| 00:27.56 | scanline | slimspace: will the ground software need to know the actual limits, or just which sensors are out of range? |
| 00:28.18 | slimspace | well, I'm picturing us being able to send back the current numbers, and the warning status. |
| 00:28.50 | darth_mall | wtf... |
| 00:28.51 | slimspace | I'm thinking maybe we could use a new Observable variable that would define several states based on ValueExpressions |
| 00:28.59 | scanline | I'm picturing an 'alarms' list, with tuples or some object representing a boolean observable.value and a severity code |
| 00:29.15 | darth_mall | I just noticed that Nutt gives the answer to a question in chp. 4 in chp. 5 |
| 00:29.17 | darth_mall | verbatim |
| 00:29.23 | darth_mall | wow... bright |
| 00:29.25 | scanline | slimspace: yeah, that would be cool |
| 00:29.33 | purple_cow | oof |
| 00:29.36 | purple_cow | badblocks is doing another pass |
| 00:29.36 | slimspace | scanline: should be easy to implement too |
| 00:29.52 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r6633 10bzedit/scripts/BZFlag/World.py: add a world object |
| 00:30.04 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r6634 10bzedit/scripts/BZFlag/World.py: typo |
| 00:30.21 | scanline | slimspace: maybe call it Observable.Status, with a list of (status, observable.value) tuples. The first value that's True sets the status |
| 00:30.28 | scanline | slimspace: so you can change the order to define priorities |
| 00:30.32 | slimspace | exactly |
| 00:30.35 | scanline | cool |
| 00:31.11 | darth_mall | oh, I guess it's not quite the answer |
| 00:31.15 | slimspace | and then during synchronize, any Status variables returned could be represented like that. |
| 00:31.29 | slimspace | yeah, I like that |
| 00:31.33 | scanline | slimspace: yep. it could just be an observable.enum subclass |
| 00:31.44 | slimspace | mmm hmm |
| 00:31.50 | scanline | the constructor scrapes that argument list to get a list of status codes to pass to enum's constructor |
| 00:32.04 | ChipX86 | oohh |
| 00:32.09 | ChipX86 | "The speed of time is one second per second." |
| 00:32.09 | scanline | should also be really easy to share in mission rules |
| 00:32.22 | scanline | (satellite.nodes.alarms.thermal == 'critical') |
| 00:32.23 | scanline | :) |
| 00:32.31 | slimspace | yeah :) |
| 00:32.44 | slimspace | that'll fix one problem I was having with this whole thing |
| 00:32.46 | scanline | have you registered for the symposium? |
| 00:32.50 | ChipX86 | great quotes on our quips page today :D |
| 00:32.56 | slimspace | not yet, seeing you talking about it reminded me |
| 00:33.01 | CIA-5 | zsnes: 03pagefault * 10zsnes/src/gui/guiwindp.inc: Add grinvader to about box |
| 00:33.02 | ChipX86 | "The cost of living hasn't affected its popularity" |
| 00:33.09 | slimspace | scanline: when's the deadline for that? |
| 00:33.11 | scanline | yeah. I had just idly reminded myself somehow, but this web form is tempting me to put it off a bit more |
| 00:33.13 | scanline | not sure |
| 00:33.26 | slimspace | ah...well, I'm sure Steve won't let me forget about it. |
| 00:33.29 | scanline | :) |
| 00:33.37 | slimspace | He seems very interested in my submitting something. |
| 00:33.56 | scanline | Javascript itself is really cool, but convincing a browser to display a usable UI is tricky |
| 00:33.56 | slimspace | hehe |
| 00:34.10 | scanline | hrm |
| 00:34.14 | slimspace | yeah, I really should be doing Physics homework, but I'm not. |
| 00:34.20 | scanline | purple_cow: I reinstalled gcc, but mod_php is still failing |
| 00:34.35 | scanline | purple_cow: think it's worth a try reemerging glibc? |
| 00:34.42 | scanline | oh. huh. |
| 00:34.45 | scanline | maybe this is a libtool problem |
| 00:34.51 | scanline | wouldn't that suck donkey nuts |
| 00:34.59 | purple_cow | yes it would |
| 00:37.09 | CIA-5 | zsnes: 03pagefault * 10zsnes/src/gui/guiwindp.inc: Give ipher a cookie too |
| 00:37.09 | scanline | TD loves libtool problems, we should just give him root on navi :) |
| 00:37.33 | purple_cow | heh |
| 00:40.51 | CIA-5 | zsnes: 03pagefault * 10zsnes/src/gui/guiwindp.inc: Renamed "Win32" version to "Win" version since we support Win64 via MSVC |
| 00:41.07 | ChipX86 | man, the snapshot manager looks so yummy with svg |
| 00:42.11 | pagefault | wow |
| 00:42.18 | pagefault | 3 commits committed to the about box |
| 00:42.20 | pagefault | I am on a roll |
| 00:42.24 | purple_cow | hehe |
| 00:42.46 | kergoth | 'missed me' keeps getting stuck in my head |
| 00:43.16 | scanline | purple_cow: and you called me crazy! |
| 00:43.30 | purple_cow | hehe |
| 00:44.09 | ChipX86 | all about box credits should be rendered in fyre |
| 00:44.16 | darth_mall | there, that hw is good enough |
| 00:44.17 | ChipX86 | you just need to find the right spots for each letter |
| 00:44.18 | scanline | haha |
| 00:44.30 | ChipX86 | and if you find pi, then you win! |
| 00:44.58 | scanline | much too long of an animation to sanely run in screensaver mod |
| 00:45.12 | darth_mall | hehe |
| 00:45.52 | darth_mall | scanline: that is neat |
| 00:45.57 | scanline | first time I've experiemnted with changing the number of transient iters during an animation |
| 00:46.36 | purple_cow | hmm |
| 00:47.42 | scanline | ack, the rectangle is stuck to the mouse again |
| 00:47.59 | ChipX86 | silly rectangles |
| 00:48.22 | kergoth | boooooored |
| 00:48.53 | scanline | which backup DVD was it on? |
| 00:50.10 | scanline | ooh, this one also has the new Juno Reactor stuff |
| 00:50.17 | kergoth | yay juno reactor |
| 00:50.42 | kergoth | i need to rip some more albums to get my access upgraded on ubernet |
| 00:52.37 | purple_cow | scanline: first 1/31 |
| 00:52.43 | scanline | got it |
| 00:53.38 | purple_cow | mmmmmmmmmmMMMmm |
| 00:53.47 | scanline | uh oh |
| 00:54.51 | scanline | now purple_cow needs a deviantart account |
| 00:55.13 | scanline | mm.. I should make a print rendering of Spinny Doom |
| 00:56.00 | purple_cow | http://navi.cx/~jupiter/biological.png |
| 00:56.19 | scanline | yikes, radial initial conditions |
| 00:56.24 | purple_cow | uhhuh :) |
| 00:56.42 | scanline | ToyKeeper found a really cool use for those recently, but until then I thought they were kinda useless |
| 00:57.39 | ToyKeeper | http://z.xyzz.org/solflower-1.png |
| 00:57.46 | scanline | yep. I just found it in my IRC logs :) |
| 00:57.47 | ToyKeeper | ... for the curious. |
| 00:58.09 | purple_cow | :) |
| 00:58.49 | scanline | one o' these days I need to implement a GUI for the already-pretty-much-done arbitrary initial condition support |
| 00:59.20 | scanline | :) |
| 00:59.31 | scanline | and I can implement a gflibble widget! |
| 01:00.28 | ToyKeeper | Feel free to just put stuff into the fyre gallery, if you want. |
| 01:00.51 | scanline | might do that once PHP is unbroken |
| 01:00.54 | ToyKeeper | I still want to know how the "Checkerboard Cherry Vortex" was made. |
| 01:01.10 | scanline | ToyKeeper: modified version of fyre, using a very early version of the arbitrary initial condition support |
| 01:01.19 | purple_cow | xyzzy [to dowdy]: i was down at mike's camera playing with the Nikkor 12-24mm DX wide-angle zoom for my D70 today. nice lense! roughly equivalent to an 18-36mm with a standard focal length |
| 01:01.19 | purple_cow | xyzzy says, "mike's sells them for $1099, but adorama has them for $930" |
| 01:01.19 | purple_cow | dowdy [to xyzzy]: you have discovered yourself a money-sink! I have the stock 18-55 lens on my Canon, a 75-300, and a 50mm f1.8 portrait lens. I need to get me a sub-15mm wide-angle at some point. 18 just doesn't cut it for those big-sky (aurora, etc) pics. |
| 01:01.19 | purple_cow | dworkin is often amazed at the flexibility of the definition of the word `need' |
| 01:01.26 | scanline | ToyKeeper: same way the 'spider' picture and the TMBG photo were done :) |
| 01:02.12 | ToyKeeper | Hmm. It's groundhog's day. |
| 01:02.45 | ChipX86 | it must have seen its shadow |
| 01:02.53 | ChipX86 | I think I'm going swimming tonight |
| 01:03.16 | laodamas|away | six more weeks of winter (yay!) |
| 01:03.26 | ChipX86 | you sure? |
| 01:03.48 | laodamas | according to the groundhog |
| 01:03.50 | ChipX86 | 70 degrees.. |
| 01:04.00 | scanline | wow, solflower looks quite nice in zoomed out form too |
| 01:07.17 | laodamas | heh |
| 01:07.18 | laodamas | Couples competing on the reality TV Fear Factor raced through a web of wires attached to a 10,000-volt substation last night, suffering stinging shocks while grabbing flags. |
| 01:07.25 | laodamas | NBC officials insisted yesterday that the show's participants - who also stuck their heads in boxes of snakes and tarantulas - only sustained "high-voltage/low amp shock. |
| 01:07.41 | laodamas | http://www.nydailynews.com/02-01-2005/news/local/story/276674p-236958c.html |
| 01:07.59 | hardwire | I now have a griffin powermate |
| 01:08.03 | hardwire | to be honest.. it could be made better |
| 01:09.11 | ToyKeeper | Hehehe... |
| 01:09.32 | laodamas | Network people: or was it the other way around? |
| 01:09.44 | ToyKeeper | Rice admits to sleeping with Bush: http://toykeeper.net/tmp/rice-bush.jpg |
| 01:10.29 | laodamas | It was 3V and only 10,000A, perfectly safe |
| 01:12.21 | scanline | hehe |
| 01:13.01 | pagefault | considering where she gets her intelligence from |
| 01:13.10 | pagefault | that may be exhadurated |
| 01:13.53 | CIA-5 | opencombat: 03jeffm2501 * 10opencombat_P24/client/ (inc/updatescreen.h src/updatescreen.cpp): split the update stuff to it's own class/file |
| 01:14.46 | scanline | ooo |
| 01:15.24 | CIA-5 | opencombat: 03jeffm2501 * 10opencombat_P24/client/ (vc71/client.vcproj inc/parser.h src/parser.cpp): make parser be it's own generic object |
| 01:15.30 | scanline | http://navi.cx/~micah/polywidget.png |
| 01:15.50 | purple_cow | wow |
| 01:15.56 | purple_cow | wow wow wow |
| 01:16.37 | scanline | this one definitely has a hot spot... up to 70M density |
| 01:18.09 | kergoth | yay home |
| 01:19.33 | scanline | cool. if you zoom out and untile polywidget, you can see why the spirals are so oddly shaped |
| 01:19.38 | kergoth | hmm |
| 01:19.39 | kergoth | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:19.42 | pagefault | Steve Ballmer this week came up with a novel explanation for high levels of software piracy in emerging economies. Hardware, he says, is too expensive. What these people need, he said, is a "$100 computer." |
| 01:19.44 | pagefault | ...right |
| 01:20.01 | ChipX86 | I don't mind a $1000+ computer |
| 01:20.08 | ChipX86 | I do mind expensive software that barely works |
| 01:20.23 | laodamas | with the $600 office suite |
| 01:20.26 | pagefault | There is however no reason to reduce prices, says Steve, because most of the people can't afford PCs, so obviously don't steal software, whereas the people who can afford PCs are "relatively affluent" and can therefore afford software. |
| 01:20.27 | ChipX86 | the computer lasts for a long time. The software has to be re-purchased every year |
| 01:20.33 | kergoth | http://www.bookpool.com/.x/SSSSSS_C473S522319D0502022013/ct/163 |
| 01:20.50 | ChipX86 | pagefault: where's this? |
| 01:20.59 | pagefault | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/10/21/ballmer_100_buck_pc_fix/ |
| 01:25.20 | pagefault | In a question and answer session after his closing speech a delegate asked what he should do faced with public sector customers interested in Star Office, Sun's budget rival to Microsoft Office. Ballmer replied: “Email me immediately and we’ll send in the cavalry. I’m joking...but I’m not. There is no reason to lose business to Star Office - it’s as good as what we were shipping seven years ago, it’s not compatible with Microsoft Office an |
| 01:25.21 | pagefault | d it’s missing key applications like Outlook.” |
| 01:25.27 | pagefault | evolution |
| 01:25.30 | pagefault | end of story |
| 01:25.49 | ChipX86 | our guy in charge of IT announced his stupidity today |
| 01:27.19 | pagefault | what did he do? |
| 01:27.41 | ChipX86 | well, our exchange server crashed again today, losing almost everyone's e-mail, again |
| 01:27.44 | purple_cow | hmm, pyphany sounds cool |
| 01:27.52 | pagefault | exchange? |
| 01:27.54 | pagefault | oh man |
| 01:27.54 | ChipX86 | so we had our weekly talks with the CEO |
| 01:27.58 | ChipX86 | and someone brought up a question |
| 01:28.08 | ChipX86 | Can we get rid of Exchange and put a real, unix-based e-mail server on |
| 01:28.18 | ChipX86 | said that nobody wanted exchange but marketting, so can the rest of us use something that works |
| 01:28.35 | nullpuppy | cyrus with postfix ;) |
| 01:28.40 | ChipX86 | he said they would look into it, but that they're not sure about the cost, and that exchange is "bulletproof" |
| 01:28.48 | nullpuppy | lol |
| 01:28.59 | ChipX86 | said we were going to continue using it, and these aren't VMware-specific Exchange problems, so we're not going to worry too much about it |
| 01:29.04 | pagefault | it's also from last century |
| 01:29.15 | ChipX86 | so we lost all our e-mail, they said "oh well |
| 01:29.17 | ChipX86 | " |
| 01:29.20 | ChipX86 | and that's that, basically |
| 01:29.24 | scanline | purple_cow: pyphany? |
| 01:29.24 | ChipX86 | all the engineers are *pissed* |
| 01:29.31 | purple_cow | scanline: python epiphany extensions |
| 01:29.41 | nullpuppy | ChipX86: wow |
| 01:29.42 | kergoth | ChipX86: haha, oh man |
| 01:29.52 | kergoth | time to find a new IT guy |
| 01:30.18 | pagefault | but he's probably MSCE! |
| 01:30.27 | nullpuppy | haha |
| 01:30.28 | kergoth | hah |
| 01:30.34 | laodamas | What an honour |
| 01:30.42 | scanline | hah |
| 01:31.04 | pagefault | goes nicely with your A+ |
| 01:31.07 | pagefault | and other useless crapola |
| 01:31.49 | pagefault | I always laugh when I go into best buy and the computer repairs dept has all their certs posted |
| 01:31.57 | pagefault | like come on guys you are just putting hardware in PC's |
| 01:32.19 | ChipX86 | now they're saying that our e-mail server doesn't have the "magic" necessary to try re-sending an e-mail if it bounces |
| 01:32.33 | kergoth | ooh, magic |
| 01:32.35 | ChipX86 | so everyone will have to re-send all e-mails that they tried sending today |
| 01:32.48 | kergoth | abracadabra! suck less! |
| 01:32.49 | pagefault | how efficient |
| 01:32.51 | ChipX86 | I love how they're e-mailing us to tell us the status of the e-mail server |
| 01:32.57 | pagefault | haha |
| 01:33.02 | kergoth | smooth |
| 01:33.07 | pagefault | "if you get this then e-mail works" |
| 01:33.46 | ChipX86 | we had an e-mail earlier that said something to the effect of "The mail server has crashed, and most people have lost their e-mali and can't check e-mail now. I realize that if you're one of these, then you're not reading this, so if you're not, please tell those who are." |
| 01:34.05 | kergoth | haha |
| 01:34.44 | nullpuppy | ChipX86: do they do nightly backups and stuff like they should be? |
| 01:35.21 | ChipX86 | apparently not. |
| 01:35.24 | ChipX86 | I don't know |
| 01:35.46 | nullpuppy | wow |
| 01:35.53 | pagefault | I wonder if this stuff goes on inside MS |
| 01:36.01 | ChipX86 | they contacted MS to restore our e-mail |
| 01:36.05 | ChipX86 | MS said they had no way to |
| 01:36.21 | ChipX86 | I suspect it was corruption |
| 01:36.27 | ChipX86 | due to load |
| 01:36.50 | pagefault | how much e-mail are you guys getting anyway? |
| 01:37.20 | ChipX86 | quite a bit, internally |
| 01:37.28 | ChipX86 | nearly all discussion takes place over e-mail |
| 01:37.30 | pagefault | I bet MS just refused to fix it because you are a competitor |
| 01:37.34 | ChipX86 | you can imagine the downtime |
| 01:37.36 | ChipX86 | hah |
| 01:37.37 | ChipX86 | maybe |
| 01:37.58 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r6635 10bzedit/scripts/ (4 files in 2 dirs): add a logger, start reworking the importer to use the new objects |
| 01:44.28 | ChipX86 | down from about 10 or 12 bugs to 4 today, *and* SVG support. Not bad. |
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| 01:53.31 | scanline | illegal pete's is one of the few restaurants around here that really means it when they say 'hot' |
| 01:54.49 | scanline | pff, their guacamole is so expensive :( |
| 01:55.39 | scanline | purple_cow: methinks I'll have a chicken burrito with black beans, some sort of medium salsa, and sour cream |
| 01:56.16 | *** join/#tacobeam file (~symlink@mctnnbsah25-142166093009.nb.aliant.net) |
| 01:59.44 | kergoth | hrm |
| 02:02.44 | scanline | yikes |
| 02:02.59 | purple_cow | well, the card might work :) |
| 02:03.00 | scanline | so of course, now a ton of processes are all trying to regenerate the cache, and navi's load is around 20 |
| 02:03.16 | scanline | :) |
| 02:03.34 | scanline | hah, mysql on navi hit its connection limit |
| 02:04.32 | scanline | http://navi.cx/therm/ |
| 02:04.45 | scanline | amusing how the connection password shows up in the exception traceback |
| 02:05.08 | scanline | of course, that's the read-only password, not designed to be secure |
| 02:05.23 | scanline | but wouldn't it suck if I was dumb enough to put a real password in the source code :) |
| 02:13.53 | scanline | slimspace|away: what the heck is this thing I'm supposedly finishing tomorrow? |
| 02:14.03 | scanline | "-Update C&DH packet for C&DH sendall types of commads. Due Thursday." |
| 02:14.22 | scanline | if that's referring to the critical decoder sendall, that's been done for about a year now |
| 02:15.01 | scanline | and if it's the stuff in that Flight.Computer object, wrote it a few days ago but haven't tested it |
| 02:18.17 | scanline | gurrf... this therm cache rebuild is just killing navi |
| 02:18.31 | scanline | but I'm inclined to wait it out rather than adding some locking so it only rebuilds one rrd at a time |
| 02:25.52 | purple_cow | wowie. my irc lag to ctrlproxy is 4.6s |
| 02:26.13 | purple_cow | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:26.36 | scanline | yeah, I'm working on trying to kill some processes now |
| 02:26.49 | scanline | still waiting on a "ps wufwax | grep rrdtool" |
| 02:27.28 | scanline | mm, tasty burrito |
| 02:27.28 | scanline | and all the spicy bits ended up at one end |
| 02:27.43 | laodamas | yummy |
| 02:28.04 | purple_cow | grr |
| 02:28.09 | purple_cow | my svn commit timed out |
| 02:28.44 | scanline | wow that's a lot of rrdtools |
| 02:30.34 | scanline | ok.. I'm going to kill mysql and apache and start this all up with the therm server on a different URL temporarily |
| 02:30.43 | scanline | so it won't be getting bombarded with requests |
| 02:32.35 | purple_cow | apache up? |
| 02:32.38 | scanline | almost |
| 02:32.49 | scanline | should be now |
| 02:34.04 | scanline | hah. takes maybe 1 minute per sensor to regenerate the cache when it's only doing it onece |
| 02:34.20 | scanline | doing hundreds of them concurrently would have taken way longer than I was willing to wait |
| 02:34.25 | purple_cow | i see my mother in my face, but only when i travel, i run as fast as i can run, but jack comes tumbling after |
| 02:35.08 | scanline | whoa |
| 02:35.30 | scanline | the polywidget I have rendering in fyre is up to 1.17 billion density |
| 02:38.13 | scanline | purple_cow: restarting apache again soon to put therms back on their usual address |
| 02:39.14 | scanline | hmm, yeah |
| 02:39.18 | scanline | could be a stale lock in the repository |
| 02:40.39 | scanline | :) |
| 02:40.49 | scanline | just what we need, glibc and linux compiling simultaneously |
| 02:41.24 | scanline | cleaning all the repositories, almost done |
| 02:41.37 | purple_cow | mmm |
| 02:41.40 | purple_cow | that was a tasty burrito |
| 02:41.47 | scanline | yep |
| 02:41.54 | scanline | tastier than the kind I usually get, whatever those are ;) |
| 02:42.41 | scanline | purple_cow: it's back |
| 02:43.11 | scanline | yay for "svnadmin recover" being an absolute cakewalk compared to the way it was in svn's earlier days |
| 02:43.22 | purple_cow | hehe, yeah |
| 02:43.57 | scanline | pff, fresh |
| 02:44.14 | scanline | svn cleanup isn't good enough for ya? |
| 02:44.32 | scanline | so.. moral of the story is |
| 02:44.35 | scanline | don't delete the entire therm cache |
| 02:44.39 | purple_cow | hehe |
| 02:45.03 | scanline | at least until I give the cache some locking |
| 02:45.05 | pagefault | MS software at it's finest |
| 02:45.08 | pagefault | click a URL in MSN Messenger |
| 02:45.11 | pagefault | and it locks up |
| 02:45.14 | purple_cow | hmm, i think this badblocks might be almost finished |
| 02:45.18 | scanline | right now it's atomic, but there's no way for one process to know that another is already working on something |
| 02:45.30 | purple_cow | arg, dammit |
| 02:45.34 | purple_cow | it's doing a third pass |
| 02:45.38 | scanline | hah |
| 02:45.49 | scanline | to thoroughly kaboom our former data |
| 02:45.54 | purple_cow | looks like it does 4 passes |
| 02:45.58 | purple_cow | aa, 55, ff and 00 |
| 02:46.06 | purple_cow | so we might have one disk ready by tonight |
| 02:46.15 | scanline | with these disks it's generally enough to know that it doesn't hang when you read or write a block |
| 02:46.33 | purple_cow | well, i wanted to try writing everything |
| 02:46.38 | purple_cow | but this is getting rediculous :) |
| 02:46.39 | scanline | they seem to be good at reporting errors on their own, despite also being good at generating errors |
| 02:49.51 | scanline | http://navi.cx/~micah/fyre-unfiled/polywidget-big.png |
| 02:49.52 | scanline | =D |
| 02:52.07 | scanline | http://ibot.rikers.org/stats/tacobeam.html.gz |
| 02:52.09 | scanline | hah |
| 02:52.37 | scanline | is that new, or does it only report one day at a time? |
| 02:53.11 | scanline | "AFAIK everyone in here besides jbot is made of meat" |
| 02:53.18 | purple_cow | "During this 1-day reporting period, ..." |
| 02:53.42 | scanline | purple_cow: yeah.. I'm wondering whether it's only been set up for a day, or if tim just only feeds that the daily logs |
| 02:53.50 | purple_cow | only feeds the daily logs |
| 02:53.56 | scanline | bah |
| 02:55.14 | ToyKeeper | scanline: nice |
| 02:55.35 | file | why can't my boss just let me go to sleep |
| 02:56.42 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r6636 10bzedit/scripts/ (5 files in 2 dirs): fix up a lot of little syntax errors and other trivial boo-boos. it imports boxes now! |
| 02:57.19 | kergoth | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:57.22 | kergoth | 20:55 < klogd> A. Both of them. |
| 02:57.26 | scanline | <Roadkill> aren't the bzflag IRC and forums passwords shared? |
| 02:58.06 | purple_cow | kergoth: hehehe |
| 03:03.13 | purple_cow | scanline: how much did you pay for that there pizza we had? |
| 03:03.53 | kergoth | hah, my random quote on the #oe stats: |
| 03:03.54 | kergoth | "/tmp/ccsDtTpq.o(.text+0x1c): In function `main':" |
| 03:04.33 | scanline | purple_cow: not sure where I put the receipt, but I thought it was about $17 for both of them |
| 03:04.34 | purple_cow | mmk |
| 03:04.39 | scanline | wow |
| 03:05.02 | scanline | according to venkman's profiler, I'm spending a disgusting amount of time in the tiny closure that wraps mouse move events |
| 03:05.03 | kergoth | 'patch' is the most often used word in oe |
| 03:05.09 | kergoth | which is unsurprising, really |
| 03:05.10 | scanline | that's got to be including the functions that closure calls |
| 03:05.18 | scanline | kergoth: hehe |
| 03:06.16 | kergoth | tim should probably do more than just a one day reporting period on that |
| 03:06.18 | kergoth | heh |
| 03:06.30 | scanline | yeah. at least a week.. a month would be optimal probably |
| 03:06.34 | kergoth | yeah |
| 03:09.10 | kergoth | damnit |
| 03:09.18 | kergoth | every time i do a screen -Dr in a putty session |
| 03:09.28 | kergoth | screen's fucking columns setting results in my putty resizing itself |
| 03:09.43 | kergoth | down to 80 cols |
| 03:10.44 | purple_cow | hehe |
| 03:11.15 | scanline | hah. I thought Eterm was the only graphical terminal emulator that listened to the column change commands |
| 03:11.49 | kergoth | its really fucking annoying, especially with screen |
| 03:12.05 | kergoth | imho screen -Dr should obey my existing cols, not the ones on its inside terminals |
| 03:12.12 | kergoth | what business do its sessions have fucking with my terminal? |
| 03:12.18 | kergoth | they're inside of screen for gods sake |
| 03:14.43 | scanline | now wouldn't that be a creepy CIA feature if the build result messages ever get popular... |
| 03:15.24 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r6637 10bzedit/scripts/BZFlag/ (Pyramid.py Reader.py Types.py): add a pyramid object and import them too |
| 03:16.19 | purple_cow | scanline: that'd be cool :) |
| 03:16.32 | kergoth | patch libnotify to support automatic notification via xml/rpc to cia |
| 03:16.54 | scanline | heh |
| 03:16.57 | scanline | the other way round might be useful |
| 03:17.11 | kergoth | heh, indeed |
| 03:17.32 | kergoth | i was musing in #oe earlier about wanting something like CIA for upstream project releases |
| 03:17.35 | kergoth | which i do on occasion |
| 03:17.46 | scanline | holy crap |
| 03:17.48 | kergoth | and someone messaged me saying they were working on it |
| 03:17.49 | scanline | somehow I made this smooth |
| 03:17.49 | kergoth | heh |
| 03:19.20 | purple_cow | scanline: probably wouldn't be too hard to hack up an rss-publish/subscribe daemon to splat to libnotify :) |
| 03:19.34 | kergoth | that would be neat |
| 03:19.34 | purple_cow | that'd be very cool, actually |
| 03:19.38 | scanline | http://yoshi:8080/analysis.aspx |
| 03:19.43 | scanline | creepy-smooth |
| 03:19.44 | CIA-5 | openembedded: 03kergoth 07 * r1.3090 10openembedded/packages/lsof/lsof_4.74.bb: Add lsof 4.74. |
| 03:20.01 | scanline | huh? |
| 03:20.08 | purple_cow | i just have a big blank box |
| 03:20.18 | scanline | huh... |
| 03:20.45 | purple_cow | yay, i made it slow! |
| 03:20.48 | scanline | oh. I think the server is giving out the wrong mime type |
| 03:21.02 | purple_cow | hehe, really slow |
| 03:21.12 | scanline | oh no, purple_cow broke my extremely robust javascript masterpiece! |
| 03:23.06 | kergoth | cant believe i didnt notice that |
| 03:23.06 | kergoth | heh |
| 03:25.55 | scanline | huh |
| 03:26.05 | scanline | purple_cow: yeah, looks like XSP serves up .jpeg fine, but not .jpg |
| 03:27.52 | kergoth | hey ChipX86 |
| 03:27.53 | ChipX86 | hey |
| 03:27.57 | scanline | purple_cow: does the moon show up now? |
| 03:27.59 | ChipX86 | I get to file taxes! Time to learn how |
| 03:28.42 | scanline | oowow |
| 03:28.47 | kergoth | taxes! yay! .. i mean .. boo |
| 03:28.49 | scanline | if I drag the rectangle just right I can get it to oscillate |
| 03:29.02 | purple_cow | scanline: yep |
| 03:29.11 | purple_cow | what's the car there for? |
| 03:29.23 | scanline | purple_cow: it's simulating space hardware we've lost on the moon ;) |
| 03:29.30 | purple_cow | heh |
| 03:29.39 | scanline | this is an image that jason hacked up just to test the frontend with |
| 03:29.44 | scanline | we have better sample images now, but I'm lazy |
| 03:31.10 | purple_cow | huh |
| 03:31.22 | purple_cow | looks like the sims 2 stuff heavily emphasizes a pillowfight mode |
| 03:31.23 | purple_cow | http://media.pc.ign.com/media/716/716133/img_2478022.html |
| 03:31.38 | purple_cow | about 1/10 of their screenshots involve pillowfights |
| 03:31.40 | scanline | hah |
| 03:31.55 | scanline | eventually it will be SimPillowfight, then just SimBedroom |
| 03:32.24 | scanline | there is something seriously funky about the stain on that pizza box |
| 03:32.33 | kergoth | hmm |
| 03:32.33 | purple_cow | huh |
| 03:32.41 | purple_cow | half their pillowfight screenshots have half-eaten pizzas |
| 03:32.57 | scanline | there also seems to be a non-shadowcasting box of chinese food |
| 03:33.08 | kergoth | some modules that libbitbake dlopen()s will be linking against a bitbake metadata supplementary library. any ideas for a better name than 'libbb-metadata'? |
| 03:33.10 | scanline | or maybe it's levitating and the shadow is offscreen |
| 03:33.20 | kergoth | heh |
| 03:33.37 | scanline | kergoth: libmetabake! |
| 03:33.47 | kergoth | hehe |
| 03:34.14 | scanline | http://media.pc.ign.com/media/716/716133/img_2577100.html |
| 03:34.16 | scanline | nice feathers in that one |
| 03:34.31 | kergoth | there are two supplementary libraries. one for metadata handling and storage, and one for running executable metadata ("workers") |
| 03:34.34 | kergoth | hm |
| 03:35.11 | kergoth | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:35.14 | kergoth | libingredients1 |
| 03:35.20 | kergoth | libkitchenstaff |
| 03:35.21 | scanline | libyeast |
| 03:35.23 | kergoth | hehe |
| 03:35.27 | scanline | libflour |
| 03:35.35 | scanline | libflatbread could use libflour but not libyeast |
| 03:35.38 | kergoth | hehe |
| 03:36.02 | kergoth | offloading the build of a package to another machine is just sending a recipe to another kitchen |
| 03:36.39 | ChipX86 | who here files taxes online? |
| 03:36.57 | kergoth | i would, but i have 3 years of taxes to do |
| 03:37.00 | kergoth | h&r block here i come |
| 03:38.47 | file[laptop] | I do, but I'm Canadian. |
| 03:39.34 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r6638 10bzedit/scripts/BZFlag/Types.py: add stubs for all those unimplemented types |
| 03:42.22 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r6639 10bzedit/scripts/BZFlag/ (Reader.py Types.py): more enumeration |
| 03:43.49 | ChipX86 | "It is more difficult to hit a moving target." "It is also helpful to be lucky." |
| 03:49.25 | scanline | "For every verification error I find.. I shall kill you" |
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| 03:50.04 | zak | slimspace: is tess there? |
| 03:50.09 | slimspace | yes, right beside me |
| 03:50.17 | zak | hiya tess :) |
| 03:50.31 | slimspace | <tess> hi |
| 03:50.38 | zak | i was wondering how we wanted to meet tomorrow to check collect? |
| 03:50.38 | slimspace | * tess waves hi |
| 03:50.42 | zak | lol :) |
| 03:50.57 | slimspace | zak: if you come to SG tomorrow, I have her rent check, I can just give it to you |
| 03:51.02 | zak | that works |
| 03:51.23 | zak | i was going to say, i have a huge exam tomorrow, and would rather not go across campus |
| 03:54.44 | zak | slimspace: tell tess she needs to invent the cure for excema (whines piteously and tries not to scratch) |
| 03:55.12 | scanline | zak: I have some bubble wrap I could wrap you in |
| 03:55.18 | slimspace | zak: she say neuroscientists don't do much with epidermal rashes |
| 03:55.18 | scanline | zak: it works on lurgy |
| 03:55.44 | zak | slimspace: good point, but maybe she can do something to my brain that will convince me i don't actually itch |
| 03:56.00 | zak | scanline: i'd still itch, i just couldn't scrtch |
| 03:56.17 | scanline | zak: bubble wrap + liquid nitrogen |
| 03:56.20 | slimspace | zak: she says maybe she can temperarily deactivate itch receptor neurons if you want |
| 03:56.27 | zak | ooo! |
| 03:56.29 | zak | please! |
| 03:57.03 | slimspace | she says have someone hit you really hard at the base of the neck with a stick or something |
| 03:57.04 | slimspace | ;) |
| 03:58.01 | purple_cow | much less dangerous to just choke the corroded for a few seconds ;-) |
| 04:03.42 | zak | lol |
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| 04:04.16 | CIA-5 | openembedded: 03kergoth * r122 10libbitbake-data/ (20 files in 10 dirs): Initial population of directory structure and buildsystem bits. |
| 04:04.16 | zak | HI LURGY! |
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| 04:06.41 | lurgy_ | hmm |
| 04:06.45 | lurgy_ | gcc 4.0 betas.. |
| 04:07.50 | CIA-5 | openembedded: 03kergoth * r123 10libbitbake-data/include/bitbake-data/ (. common.h): Add common header for things like gcc visibility macros. |
| 04:09.02 | pagefault | dude |
| 04:09.06 | pagefault | I so want a warlock shirt |
| 04:09.09 | pagefault | "i'm riding a flaming horse" |
| 04:10.05 | pagefault | or "Succubus' come on command." |
| 04:13.39 | purple_cow | hmm |
| 04:13.43 | purple_cow | on sub-pass 6/8 now |
| 04:13.53 | KeyserLaptop | do any of all y'all use gnome? |
| 04:14.02 | scanline | gnome? never heard of it |
| 04:14.05 | kergoth | opinion |
| 04:14.22 | purple_cow | scanline: hehe |
| 04:14.32 | purple_cow | KeyserLaptop: a fair number of us |
| 04:14.35 | kergoth | when using dlopened modules, do people generally prefer that the initialization function in the module register itself with something |
| 04:14.41 | KeyserLaptop | it's sooo shiny, and yet, the stupid network config gui util ate and crapped on it's configuration file, and now just crashes. and no one in #gnome knows where it's configuration file even is |
| 04:14.45 | kergoth | or should the main app directly call the symbols it wants int he module |
| 04:14.51 | kergoth | i'm thinking the former is cleanest |
| 04:15.15 | purple_cow | network config gui? is that part of gnome-system-tools ? |
| 04:15.27 | KeyserLaptop | purple_cow: network-admin. |
| 04:15.57 | KeyserLaptop | "the configuration could not be loaded, there was an error running the backend script" |
| 04:16.52 | purple_cow | ah, that is a part of gnome-system-tools |
| 04:17.12 | kergoth | hah, regarding the new 2.6 development model: |
| 04:17.13 | kergoth | 22:15 < randy> we need some word that is stable +* development, like stabelopment or develable |
| 04:17.16 | kergoth | 22:16 < nigel> I like stabelopment :> |
| 04:17.46 | KeyserLaptop | thank you purple_cow! |
| 04:19.28 | KeyserLaptop | crap. it doesn't have an xml configuration file. perhaps it creates it on it's first invocation? |
| 04:21.46 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r6640 10bzedit/scripts/BZFlag/Reader.py: clear out the list of objects when we're starting to parse a file |
| 04:25.23 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r6641 10bzedit/scripts/test_parse.py: this doesn't work anymore, and doesn't need to |
| 04:27.10 | kergoth | hrm |
| 04:27.57 | KeyserLaptop | hmmm. is there a way to strip color out of stdin at the command line? |
| 04:28.28 | scanline | you could write a sed or perl script to take out certain escape codes |
| 04:28.34 | scanline | but there's no really easy way I know of |
| 04:28.51 | scanline | well-behaved programs should automatically disable color if they aren't going right to the console |
| 04:29.22 | KeyserLaptop | i found a no-color option for qpkg, so i don't need it right now. but it'd be handy to have |
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| 04:31.46 | KeyserLaptop | blah. none of the files in the qpkg list for network-admin have the screwed up xml that it pukes on |
| 04:33.28 | kergoth | isatty() is our friend |
| 04:33.37 | scanline | hah. I love users that blame a web site when the browser crashes trying to render it |
| 04:34.32 | kergoth | heh |
| 04:34.32 | kergoth | KeyserLaptop: blah | cat will probably do. your app will see that stdout isnt a tty, and not emit color |
| 04:34.37 | kergoth | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:35.52 | KeyserLaptop | kergoth: cool, thanks |
| 04:36.45 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r6642 10bzedit/scripts/BZFlag/Reader.py: add in some undocumented things so we don't upchuck when we see them |
| 04:37.31 | purple_cow | xyzzy goes upstairs to look for tasty snack-treats |
| 04:37.31 | purple_cow | sean .o0( snausages? ) |
| 04:37.31 | purple_cow | sean .o0( beggin strips? ) |
| 04:37.31 | purple_cow | sean .o0( milk bonez? ) |
| 04:37.44 | purple_cow | hmm, this is so very useful |
| 04:37.50 | purple_cow | Exception exceptions.AttributeError: <exceptions.AttributeError instance at 0x42ba348c> in 'garbage collection' ignored |
| 04:37.50 | purple_cow | Fatal Python error: unexpected exception during garbage collection |
| 04:37.50 | purple_cow | Aborted |
| 04:38.04 | scanline | hah |
| 04:38.15 | scanline | got any crazy __del__ methods? |
| 04:38.43 | kergoth | np |
| 04:38.54 | purple_cow | scanline: not personally |
| 04:39.05 | purple_cow | might be something buried in blender :( |
| 04:39.11 | scanline | bleh |
| 04:39.24 | scanline | yay for quirksmode.org |
| 04:40.41 | scanline | hmm, there's still coffee isn't there... |
| 04:40.59 | pagefault_ | why don't they make pc's with turbo buttons anymore |
| 04:41.01 | pagefault_ | those were cool |
| 04:41.42 | scanline | yeah |
| 04:42.03 | scanline | I'm sure you could make a kernel module that would read the turbo button and emulate a 4MHz CPU if it was off ;) |
| 04:42.49 | pagefault_ | just put in a ton of NOP's |
| 04:42.51 | pagefault_ | :) |
| 04:43.10 | scanline | forcibly donate 99% of CPU to a seti@home process :P |
| 04:43.17 | lurgy | hehe |
| 04:43.28 | lurgy | seti@home.. AS A KERNEL MOD! |
| 04:43.36 | scanline | yes! |
| 04:43.46 | scanline | especially with how safe and fast it is to do floating point in kernelspace |
| 04:44.04 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r6643 10bzedit/scripts/BZFlag/Reader.py: another undocumented parameter |
| 04:44.11 | CIA-5 | openembedded: 03kergoth * r124 10libbitbake-data/doc/REQUIREMENTS: Add musings on the requirements, simple text file for now. |
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| 04:44.59 | purple_cow | ooh, scanline is listening to a good album ^^ |
| 04:45.32 | scanline | ah,glibc on navi finished |
| 04:45.36 | scanline | guh |
| 04:45.47 | scanline | so this rubber-banding problem is a lot more serious than I thought |
| 04:46.07 | scanline | the way I'm getting mouse positions seems to have a race condition in it |
| 04:46.07 | purple_cow | rubber banding? |
| 04:46.11 | scanline | plus it won't work at all on IE |
| 04:46.18 | scanline | purple_cow: when I drag these rectangles |
| 04:46.38 | scanline | it oscillates, since sometimes it's comparing the positions against old values from the divs' styles |
| 04:46.58 | scanline | and the layerX/layerY event attributes don't exist at all on most browsers |
| 04:47.17 | scanline | it turns out that just getting the mouse position in a portable way is a feat worthy of a fairly long article |
| 04:47.35 | scanline | and getting the document-relative position of another object is nearly as hard |
| 04:47.51 | scanline | javascript is so cool, yet the browsers are so awful... |
| 04:47.59 | purple_cow | hmm |
| 04:48.17 | orchid | hmm, no ntpdate in gentoo? |
| 04:48.19 | scanline | even mozilla doesn't necessarily implement DOM events properly, since the standard is vague in one key area |
| 04:48.20 | purple_cow | is there a way to catch all types of exceptions and still get an instance to print? |
| 04:48.27 | scanline | purple_cow: sys.exc_info() |
| 04:48.40 | scanline | or I think "except Exception, foo:" will also work |
| 04:49.07 | ChipX86 | I found where the cute girls live here |
| 04:49.26 | purple_cow | heh, wow |
| 04:49.28 | ChipX86 | unfortunately, the cute girls live with guys |
| 04:49.34 | purple_cow | this certainly chews up CPU as it's importing a big mesh |
| 04:50.15 | purple_cow | ooh |
| 04:50.17 | purple_cow | pass 7/8 |
| 04:50.53 | scanline | mmm yes, cool album |
| 04:51.02 | ChipX86 | wow, I'm watcing American Idol, and this one guy is on, talking and now singing, and it looks like they digitally put some woman's voice on it |
| 04:51.22 | purple_cow | it's even cooler once you start to understand more of the lyrics :) |
| 04:51.27 | purple_cow | especially "half jack" |
| 04:52.44 | scanline | I need to print out "Davyd's Three Laws of Software Engineering" and staple it various places around the engineering center |
| 04:53.05 | purple_cow | hehe |
| 04:53.29 | scanline | javascript needs a tuple data type |
| 04:53.51 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r6644 10bzedit/scripts/BZFlag/ (Mesh.py Types.py): start adding a mesh type. so far this just reads in vertices |
| 04:53.55 | ChipX86 | tuples need to not remind me of tulips |
| 04:54.09 | ChipX86 | :D |
| 04:54.28 | scanline | less dangerous than lists of tulips with all their pointy brackets |
| 04:54.52 | scanline | hmm... immutable boquets... |
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| 04:57.42 | scanline | I think this one file has more comments than I've ever seen total in every piece of javascript code I've ever read |
| 04:58.08 | purple_cow | heh |
| 04:58.52 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r6645 10bzedit/ (oak2.bzw scripts/BZFlag/Mesh.py): set scale properly assuming a 400x400 world. damn that's sexy! |
| 04:59.00 | scanline | yay, scale |
| 04:59.41 | purple_cow | even with just the vertices, it's damn cool to import the oak tree :) |
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| 05:01.57 | kergoth_ | yay |
| 05:02.08 | ChipX86 | I should re-make the Chicken Mailing List |
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| 05:02.52 | kergoth`laptop | man |
| 05:03.10 | kergoth`laptop | the irssi at work connected, did a /nick, and killed the proxy's connection |
| 05:03.17 | kergoth`laptop | again |
| 05:03.25 | kergoth`laptop | or rather, the proxy killed itself or something |
| 05:03.28 | kergoth`laptop | bah |
| 05:03.43 | pagefault_ | night all |
| 05:03.47 | ChipX86 | g'night |
| 05:05.21 | laodamas | yay five mile stationary run |
| 05:07.11 | kergoth`laptop | yay adrenaline |
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| 05:07.51 | scanline | ahh |
| 05:07.55 | scanline | piece of crap |
| 05:08.14 | scanline | something in mod_php's build system is looking for a version of libstdc++ that navi doesn't even have |
| 05:08.24 | laodamas | Iron Chef eps are the best workout videos :) |
| 05:08.27 | kergoth`laptop | damnit, my local irc client is hanging |
| 05:08.28 | scanline | hehe |
| 05:08.29 | kergoth`laptop | wont connect |
| 05:11.11 | laodamas | heh: http://www.truthout.org/multimedia.htm |
| 05:11.43 | Ksoze | does gnome have a windows-like registry? |
| 05:12.14 | scanline | Ksoze: it's gconf... similar idea to the windows registry, but with a much nicer design |
| 05:12.17 | laodamas | it's rather sad seeing republicans spew democratic positions and then hail bush |
| 05:12.29 | Ksoze | is it xml file based? |
| 05:12.57 | scanline | Ksoze: it has schemas written in xml that describe what settings an app can store. I don't know what kind of storage the backend uses for your actual settings |
| 05:13.14 | purple_cow | iirc there are a few backends |
| 05:13.20 | Ksoze | hehe. neither does anyone in #gnome, i think |
| 05:13.30 | purple_cow | the default uses xml files |
| 05:13.34 | purple_cow | in ~/.gconf |
| 05:13.42 | Ksoze | but, I'm trying not to let that sour me on gnome |
| 05:14.00 | purple_cow | Ksoze: are you asking in the #gnome here? |
| 05:14.02 | Ksoze | purple_cow: a guy in #gnome checked and doesn't see anything there for network-admin |
| 05:14.05 | Ksoze | purple_cow: yes |
| 05:14.10 | Ksoze | i'm not in there anymore |
| 05:14.16 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r6646 10bzedit/scripts/BZFlag/ (Mesh.py Reader.py): slightly less broken |
| 05:14.50 | Ksoze | oh, i guess it would be in the dir for the "gnome-system-tools" app |
| 05:14.50 | purple_cow | Ksoze: try #gnome on gimpnet :P |
| 05:14.52 | Ksoze | duh |
| 05:15.17 | CIA-5 | openembedded: 03kergoth * r125 10libbitbake-data/doc/REQUIREMENTS: More musings. |
| 05:16.00 | scanline | must be one of those fancy single-network IRC clients |
| 05:16.08 | kergoth`laptop | hehe |
| 05:16.50 | file[laptop] | kergoth: bleh |
| 05:17.07 | kergoth`laptop | actually, i'm feeling productive, comfortable, and today didnt suck all that bad |
| 05:17.11 | kergoth`laptop | so nope, no bleh |
| 05:17.14 | kergoth`laptop | oddly enough |
| 05:17.18 | file[laptop] | wow |
| 05:17.21 | kergoth`laptop | yeah |
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| 05:22.54 | KeyserLaptop | anyway, opening two of them works :) |
| 05:22.58 | ChipX86 | sure you can |
| 05:24.25 | rioter | you can |
| 05:24.44 | KeyserLaptop | heh. i can't even change my network settings in gnome. |
| 05:24.56 | KeyserLaptop | i'll leave the fancy two-servered xchat for another day :p |
| 05:25.04 | ChipX86 | fancy? |
| 05:25.09 | scanline | har |
| 05:25.43 | ChipX86 | yay! |
| 05:25.44 | KeyserLaptop | ChipX86: it's an example of self-deprecating humor, implying that connecting to two servers in xchat is beyond my abilities. |
| 05:28.29 | scanline | TRIUMPH! |
| 05:28.47 | KeyserLaptop | as in the insult comic dog, or victory? |
| 05:29.05 | scanline | and I've handily contained all the browser-specific cruft in a shiny frilly outer shell |
| 05:29.07 | scanline | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:29.07 | scanline | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:29.49 | laodamas | scanline: have IE 5 support <shudder> |
| 05:29.56 | laodamas | ? |
| 05:30.17 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r6647 10bzedit/scripts/BZFlag/Mesh.py: import faces. not sure if this is completely working right yet |
| 05:30.21 | scanline | I'm pretty sure this mouse positioning bit is supposed to be IE 5 friendly, but I'm sure most of the rest of this breaks in IE 5 |
| 05:32.17 | laodamas | you should add an active x plug-in that installs firefox to remedy the above issue |
| 05:32.24 | scanline | works for me |
| 05:36.30 | purple_cow | ooh, pass 8/8 |
| 05:37.04 | laodamas | at least it seems that only ~5% of users use IE5 and ff is about at a 15% share and growing at 'bout 2% per month |
| 05:37.20 | scanline | 5% of 0 users is still 0 users |
| 05:38.22 | scanline | hmm |
| 05:38.32 | scanline | it would be really neat if this analysis UI had a little toolbox of some sort |
| 05:38.36 | laodamas | who are these users of which you speak? I was referring to interweb users as a whole. |
| 05:38.49 | scanline | one tool for marking each type of item, plus some other tools like a magnifying glass |
| 05:39.09 | scanline | laodamas: I'm skeptical that this software I'm working on will actually be useful to anyone |
| 05:39.13 | scanline | but it's a fun learning experience |
| 05:39.32 | purple_cow | scanline: what are you talking about? |
| 05:39.42 | purple_cow | i know that *I* plan to spend most of my time using your software |
| 05:39.46 | scanline | :) |
| 05:39.56 | scanline | I'll make it as fun to break as I can' |
| 05:39.58 | ChipX86 | use it? Heck, I plan to sell it! |
| 05:40.06 | purple_cow | hehe |
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| 05:40.55 | lurgy | morning zak |
| 05:41.02 | *** topic/#tacobeam by zak -> How can you be in two places at once when you're not anywhere at all? |
| 05:41.11 | zak | evening lurgy |
| 05:41.46 | zak | dear darth_mall, scanline, slimspace, lurgy i am sorry, but another qwest bill came today |
| 05:41.59 | zak | i forgot when it was due, but lurgy can check |
| 05:42.23 | scanline | ooh |
| 05:42.28 | scanline | my dirty hack seems to have fixed mod_php |
| 05:42.41 | lurgy | hmm, check, you say |
| 05:42.45 | laodamas | scanline:Then carry on, you mad scientist among poets! |
| 05:43.25 | ChipX86 | cafepress doesn't sell black shirts? |
| 05:43.42 | purple_cow | hahahaha |
| 05:43.48 | purple_cow | KeyserSoze just got newbied! |
| 05:43.55 | ChipX86 | ? |
| 05:44.24 | ChipX86 | I've never been in there |
| 05:44.38 | rioter | thats it, im quiting |
| 05:44.42 | purple_cow | <holycow> please try something that is tried and stable |
| 05:44.43 | purple_cow | <KeyserSoze> okay |
| 05:44.43 | purple_cow | <holycow> you've never developed software have you? |
| 05:44.53 | lurgy | hehe |
| 05:44.53 | scanline | hehe |
| 05:44.55 | ChipX86 | hah |
| 05:45.04 | rioter | heh |
| 05:47.02 | zak | devloped and tried and stable? doesn't devloping something mean you will run into kinks? |
| 05:47.40 | purple_cow | zak: this guy automatically assumed KeyserSoze was clueless because he used gentoo |
| 05:48.40 | scanline | gentoo has a lot of anticlue momentum you have to overcome |
| 05:48.53 | scanline | yay, gallery fixed |
| 05:48.59 | scanline | so I'm assuming all php on navi works |
| 05:50.28 | purple_cow | aha! |
| 05:50.36 | purple_cow | holycow is a debian user. that explains almost everything |
| 05:51.46 | scanline | hehe |
| 05:52.34 | zak | scanline: anticlue momentum? |
| 05:52.39 | scanline | yes |
| 05:52.51 | zak | meaning: not intuitively obvious? |
| 05:53.07 | scanline | there are so many really annoying and clueless people running gentoo that people assume every gentoo user is annoying and clueless.. so you have to be extra clueful to overcome that it seems |
| 05:53.52 | scanline | no. let me explain |
| 05:54.18 | scanline | a lot of relatively quiet people, like us, use gentoo because it has a fairly nifty packaging system and generally Sucks Less |
| 05:54.49 | scanline | but a smaller number of infinitely louder people use gentoo because they can compile zsh with -funroll-loops and --march=i986 and such |
| 05:55.21 | scanline | probably for the best :) |
| 05:55.35 | zak | (shrugs) |
| 05:56.07 | scanline | zak: it is this loud and freaky portion of gentoo users that deserve to be made fun of by sites like http://funroll-loops.org/ |
| 05:57.30 | purple_cow | half underwater, i'm half my mother's daughter, a fraction's left up to dispute... |
| 06:00.28 | scanline | "because it's faster" |
| 06:03.57 | purple_cow | probably |
| 06:07.25 | rioter | i thought funroll-loops.org was making fun of gentoo people |
| 06:07.32 | scanline | it is |
| 06:07.32 | kergoth`laptop | heh, admittedly, opie _flies_ on my zaurus compared to GPE |
| 06:07.34 | kergoth`laptop | its night & day |
| 06:07.41 | kergoth`laptop | but who knows, that could be just about anything |
| 06:08.54 | scanline | kergoth`laptop: on the desktop, all that really matters is application support and acceleration. All these "X sucks" people forget that and assume that some PDA GUI will run great on their desktop because it's small |
| 06:09.03 | kergoth`laptop | nod |
| 06:09.06 | kergoth`laptop | thats just silly |
| 06:09.25 | purple_cow | scanline: well, admittedly there are a lot of optimizations that could happen on the desktop |
| 06:09.30 | scanline | yes |
| 06:09.38 | scanline | and using the framebuffer device isn't the answer |
| 06:09.47 | purple_cow | right |
| 06:10.22 | purple_cow | hmm, i should make a safeway run |
| 06:11.25 | purple_cow | hmm |
| 06:11.36 | purple_cow | /mnt/navi%2d ? |
| 06:11.55 | scanline | either that or /mnt/navi/%02d |
| 06:14.04 | purple_cow | only about 3mblocks left in this badblocks run :) |
| 06:14.06 | scanline | yay |
| 06:16.00 | ChipX86 | this makes me sad |
| 06:16.04 | ChipX86 | no black shirts on cafepress apparently |
| 06:17.24 | scanline | javascript needs list comprehensions |
| 06:17.48 | ChipX86 | On colored fabrics be aware that any white in your image will show as the color of the fabric. |
| 06:21.30 | ChipX86 | KoL shirs! |
| 06:21.34 | ChipX86 | er, shirts |
| 06:23.45 | ChipX86 | damn you inkscape! |
| 06:24.30 | purple_cow | scanline: /mnt/navi/00 is ready :) |
| 06:25.16 | scanline | woo, real handle-like cursors |
| 06:25.35 | scanline | if only javascript could do non-rectangular shapes this could be a vector drawing program :P |
| 06:35.13 | scanline | purple_cow: I don't think we backed up perms.. I guess for now I'll chown the whole mess to micah:users, and later we can let the perm-fixer script run |
| 06:35.37 | purple_cow | mmmk |
| 06:36.32 | scanline | micah@yoshi ~ $ mount /mnt/dvd && scp -r /mnt/dvd/2*/* navi:/mnt/navi/00/; umount /mnt/dvd |
| 06:37.28 | scanline | ah, I guess we also want that to skip the leading /navi |
| 06:38.11 | scanline | that's better |
| 06:38.13 | scanline | micah@yoshi ~ $ mount /mnt/dvd && scp -r /mnt/dvd/*/navi/* navi:/mnt/navi/00/; eject /mnt/dvd |
| 06:38.17 | scanline | this is going to be soooo much fun |
| 06:39.03 | ChipX86 | I just realized that this shirt would look much more.. um, interesting on a girl |
| 06:39.09 | scanline | hehe |
| 06:39.18 | scanline | some nice parallax effect on the eyes? |
| 06:39.25 | ChipX86 | yep |
| 06:41.15 | ChipX86 | wish I knew how well these would look in real life |
| 06:44.22 | ChipX86 | should I make a profit on these shirts, or keep them at the base prices? |
| 06:44.59 | zak | so these shirts are going to make me super sexy right? |
| 06:45.03 | ChipX86 | yep |
| 06:45.07 | ChipX86 | well, that depends |
| 06:45.09 | ChipX86 | do you hate mornings? |
| 06:45.20 | zak | not if i have slept |
| 06:45.24 | ChipX86 | hrm |
| 06:45.26 | zak | but i usually haven't |
| 06:45.28 | zak | so yes |
| 06:45.33 | ChipX86 | do you like people who hate mornings? |
| 06:45.48 | zak | well, i love at least 2 |
| 06:45.52 | zak | and like several |
| 06:45.56 | ChipX86 | do you want people who hate mornings to like you? |
| 06:46.09 | zak | umm...i guess so? |
| 06:46.17 | ChipX86 | then you can't lose with these shirts |
| 06:46.27 | zak | explain? |
| 06:46.36 | zak | rich hates mornings |
| 06:46.37 | ChipX86 | http://www.destroymornings.com/ |
| 06:48.37 | ChipX86 | http://www.cafepress.com/destroymornings |
| 06:50.38 | zak | i think it takes to much imagination |
| 06:50.55 | zak | and they look wierd |
| 06:52.30 | zak | didn't she just say 5 min? |
| 06:53.31 | ChipX86 | a destroy mornings thong seems very wrong |
| 06:54.13 | scanline | chipX86: I can understand the solution page being missing, but the problem page seems like it should be there ;) |
| 06:54.27 | ChipX86 | scanline: I made it before school one day and haven't touched it since :/ |
| 06:54.33 | scanline | :( |
| 06:54.42 | ChipX86 | yet it has popularity of some kind |
| 06:54.45 | ChipX86 | or had |
| 06:55.51 | ChipX86 | ooh |
| 06:55.57 | ChipX86 | http://www.cafepress.com/destroymornings#housewares |
| 06:56.00 | ChipX86 | the mugs look neat |
| 06:56.51 | zak | so...anyone know how to get to the equation editor in ximian open office |
| 06:57.03 | scanline | latex |
| 06:57.15 | rioter | http://www.soufoaklin.com/tattooartistbehindbars.html |
| 07:02.06 | ChipX86 | (or mugs) |
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| 07:37.46 | *** topic/#tacobeam is How can you be in two places at once when you're not anywhere at all? |
| 07:37.53 | ChipX86 | more pretty |
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| 07:42.13 | ChipX86 | http://osiris.chipx86.com/fyre/scales.png |
| 07:42.35 | scanline | :) |
| 07:42.40 | scanline | yay spiral-fu |
| 07:45.16 | rioter | thats for making me find my desden dolls albums |
| 07:45.25 | scanline | eep, how'd it get so late? |
| 07:46.51 | purple_cow | rioter: plural? =) |
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| 07:48.17 | scanline | whoa |
| 07:48.23 | scanline | thie MozOpacity style is quite nice |
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| 07:50.17 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r6648 10bzedit/scripts/BZFlag/ (Mesh.py Reader.py): fix mesh importing |
| 07:50.59 | darth_mall | good party |
| 07:52.33 | rioter | purple_cow album |
| 07:52.35 | rioter | their first one |
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| 07:53.47 | purple_cow | ah, so the one we've got |
| 07:55.12 | purple_cow | cool, first branch is mounted :) |
| 07:56.02 | scanline | nice |
| 07:56.24 | scanline | yay for unionfs |
| 07:56.42 | scanline | w00t |
| 07:56.55 | purple_cow | looks like the second disk is just about finished |
| 07:57.18 | scanline | this alpha transparency should work in gecko and IE, and be ignored gracefully on other browsers |
| 07:57.37 | purple_cow | one thing that concerns me is that the hpt driver will actually disable drives when they produce errors, which may give us problems on the badblocks |
| 07:58.11 | scanline | hmm |
| 07:58.27 | scanline | maybe we just hold off on using any of the errorful drives until later |
| 07:58.41 | purple_cow | huh |
| 07:58.59 | purple_cow | oh, reading the wrong lines in df :) |
| 07:59.19 | ChipX86 | hmmm, bdb or fsfs for svn.. |
| 07:59.45 | ToyKeeper | Go for fsfs... I hear it's better in most aspects. |
| 07:59.49 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 08:02.24 | kergoth_ | fuck this shit, my net connection is dropping like eveyr 5 minutes |
| 08:02.27 | purple_cow | scanline: get outta /navi |
| 08:02.36 | scanline | purple_cow: k |
| 08:03.41 | purple_cow | huh |
| 08:03.55 | purple_cow | the filesystem size calculation seems a little wrong |
| 08:04.19 | purple_cow | but it looks like it's unioning properly :) |
| 08:04.26 | scanline | yay |
| 08:04.34 | purple_cow | it's going to be a little funky juggling the priorities around properly |
| 08:04.41 | darth_mall | ~scifi du jour |
| 08:04.42 | jbot | There seems to be a ionized tachyon damping amplifier in the holodeck, commander kirk |
| 08:04.49 | darth_mall | ah, tachyon |
| 08:05.08 | purple_cow | i'd say for now we should just file things on the individual filesystems by hand |
| 08:05.20 | purple_cow | until we can work out some system for distributing things around |
| 08:07.10 | rioter | i swallowed a piercing |
| 08:07.14 | rioter | and just put another one through the wash |
| 08:07.37 | scanline | good job |
| 08:07.39 | purple_cow | you mean you swallowed a piece of jewellery? |
| 08:07.50 | rioter | it was acrylic but yeah |
| 08:08.54 | scanline | oh, this is getting sexy |
| 08:12.50 | darth_mall | why am I not in bed? |
| 08:12.58 | scanline | 'cause this is so sexy |
| 08:13.04 | darth_mall | oh |
| 08:13.12 | darth_mall | scanline: you should see this e-mail I sent |
| 08:13.17 | scanline | hm? |
| 08:13.20 | darth_mall | it's so full of star trek techo nonsense |
| 08:13.23 | darth_mall | it's hilarious |
| 08:13.41 | scanline | http://yoshi.navi.cx/analysis.aspx |
| 08:13.48 | scanline | drag on the image to create rectangles |
| 08:14.00 | scanline | the tabs above that say "untitled" should be translucent black :) |
| 08:14.01 | nullpuppy | ewww asp |
| 08:14.02 | nullpuppy | ;) |
| 08:14.22 | scanline | nullpuppy: it's running fine in Mono :P |
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| 08:16.01 | nullpuppy | hehe |
| 08:16.03 | nullpuppy | its still asp :) |
| 08:16.28 | scanline | (1) there's far more javascript code than C# and (2) what's wrong with asp.net? |
| 08:17.00 | nullpuppy | i just haven't been overly impressed with it in what i've used it for |
| 08:17.20 | scanline | I haven't been impressed with it, but it's not exactly worthy of an "ewwww" |
| 08:17.26 | nullpuppy | i'd prefer php |
| 08:17.37 | nullpuppy | *shrugs* |
| 08:17.43 | scanline | I'd prefer mod_python |
| 08:17.45 | scanline | so there! |
| 08:17.47 | nullpuppy | hehe |
| 08:17.50 | nullpuppy | perl! |
| 08:17.51 | ChipX86 | mod_befunge |
| 08:17.54 | nullpuppy | rofl |
| 08:18.01 | nullpuppy | mod_whitespace |
| 08:18.04 | ChipX86 | :) |
| 08:19.14 | nullpuppy | ok, time to play with some .net stuff for work :/ |
| 08:23.32 | ChipX86 | yay .net :D |
| 08:36.20 | ChipX86 | hah, nice pics of Alex on Nat's blog |
| 08:36.31 | ChipX86 | with his new phone he's been talking about |
| 08:41.36 | ChipX86 | ah-HA! I know what osiris needs. Old fashioned BBS games! |
| 08:42.35 | purple_cow | hahaha, some students are getting together to celebrate the 100th anniversary of ayn rand's birthday |
| 08:42.57 | purple_cow | wow |
| 08:43.02 | purple_cow | "the boulder objectivist club" |
| 08:43.06 | ChipX86 | I wonder if linode would run GSX Server |
| 08:43.22 | purple_cow | ChipX86: what exactly does GSX server do? |
| 08:43.31 | scanline | yay, deleting works |
| 08:44.15 | ChipX86 | it's basically Workstation, but the core part of it (called the VMX) can live on a server, so you can access it from workstations. It's ESX, except you need an OS already |
| 08:44.55 | rioter | probably a stupid question |
| 08:45.00 | ChipX86 | so I could install it, put a DOS VM on there, and set up some old BBS games |
| 08:45.06 | rioter | but can 2 sessions of vmware work from the one image? |
| 08:45.11 | ChipX86 | at the same time? |
| 08:45.12 | scanline | chipX86: or you could use dosbox ;) |
| 08:45.17 | ChipX86 | scanline: true :) |
| 08:45.26 | scanline | but vmware is probably ginormously faster than dosbox |
| 08:45.32 | ChipX86 | nod |
| 08:45.42 | ChipX86 | it's less of a resource hog than I thought it would be |
| 08:46.47 | scanline | I think that in order for this to fulfill our needs it just needs to actually set the rectangles' types, and to serialize/deserialize them |
| 08:46.54 | scanline | but it'd be nice to do the toolbox thing |
| 08:47.33 | purple_cow | scanline: i'd suggest that you only show the drag-boxes when a thing is selected, and you can select it with the title bar |
| 08:47.51 | scanline | hmm |
| 08:48.01 | scanline | seems kind of counterintuitive to have to select them though |
| 08:48.11 | purple_cow | oooh |
| 08:48.14 | purple_cow | i found a bug! |
| 08:48.18 | scanline | naw! |
| 08:48.36 | purple_cow | a few actually |
| 08:48.37 | scanline | lemme guess... dragged a rect off the edge of the image? |
| 08:48.39 | purple_cow | yep |
| 08:49.00 | scanline | yeah. the size validation stuffs in RectangleEditor need work |
| 08:49.07 | purple_cow | ooh, and then i can pull the other edge off |
| 08:49.15 | purple_cow | and it acts really weird while it's off |
| 08:49.24 | purple_cow | i have to keep the mouse over the drag boxes when resizing :) |
| 08:49.26 | scanline | you should be able to pull them anywhere as long as the mouse is somewhere it's looking for events |
| 08:49.27 | scanline | yep |
| 08:49.41 | scanline | anything that, in the DOM tree, is within the image will capture events |
| 08:49.46 | scanline | whether it's physically in the image or not |
| 08:50.36 | scanline | my group members will probably have cartoon-style jaw dropping episodes :P |
| 08:50.50 | scanline | they were impressed when I got the cheezy old code working |
| 08:51.36 | scanline | hmm |
| 08:51.48 | scanline | some sort of selection mechanism might be nice, so you can enter notes about a particular rectangle |
| 08:51.56 | scanline | but that's not in our requirements and I'm not really motivated enough yet |
| 08:52.51 | purple_cow | woo! oops in unionfs |
| 08:52.58 | scanline | yay :P |
| 08:53.19 | scanline | at least it probably wasn't a disk I/O problem this time |
| 08:54.10 | purple_cow | woo, all my mount cmdlines are hanging now |
| 08:54.22 | scanline | sweet |
| 08:54.39 | purple_cow | at least with unionfs, haven't tried anything with the individual disks |
| 08:54.42 | scanline | I need to write a kernel patch that just randomly puts processes into uninterruptible sleep |
| 08:54.52 | rioter | haha |
| 08:54.58 | scanline | I could call it... md |
| 08:55.18 | purple_cow | oh, sweet, my mke2fs is hanging too |
| 08:55.37 | purple_cow | tip: don't typo in your unionfs mount options |
| 08:55.41 | scanline | heh |
| 08:55.55 | scanline | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:55.59 | scanline | what was the problem with that? |
| 08:56.01 | purple_cow | should have been dirs= |
| 08:56.04 | scanline | ah |
| 08:56.07 | scanline | suck. |
| 08:56.18 | ChipX86 | the vector girl on the esurance.com commercial is cute |
| 08:56.19 | scanline | you'd think that a developer would have typo'ed that plenty during testing |
| 08:56.25 | purple_cow | pretty spectacular failure mode though |
| 08:56.29 | scanline | yeah |
| 08:56.47 | scanline | purple_cow: my scp is still chugging along apparently |
| 08:56.57 | purple_cow | we should reboot after that finishes |
| 08:57.54 | scanline | ah good.. /etc/mdadm.conf is still moved out of the way |
| 08:57.54 | rioter | mmm |
| 08:58.01 | rioter | new cd player in the car plays mp3's |
| 08:58.04 | rioter | fantastic |
| 08:58.13 | scanline | when I rebooted this morning, it came up fine all except for asking for the root password when raid failed :P |
| 08:58.33 | scanline | ah. it just finished |
| 08:59.01 | scanline | getting an I/O error or two on pretty much all these earlier disks |
| 08:59.13 | scanline | though these look familiar.. I'm pretty sure these are the same ones navi-backup verify caught |
| 08:59.43 | scanline | guess I'll know once we've restored the whole catalog |
| 08:59.51 | scanline | er, hm |
| 08:59.55 | purple_cow | it looks like it won't try to start raid if there's no mdadm.conf or raidtab? |
| 08:59.59 | scanline | I really should be restoring the catalog too shouldn't I... |
| 09:00.03 | scanline | purple_cow: right |
| 09:00.18 | scanline | purple_cow: it tries to check fstab for a noauto option, but the code for that is really dumb and LVM confuses it |
| 09:01.58 | scanline | hehe |
| 09:02.02 | scanline | erg, when did it get this late? |
| 09:03.05 | ChipX86 | I should work from home again tomorrow |
| 09:03.25 | purple_cow | scanline: i'm ready for a reboot whenever now |
| 09:05.23 | ChipX86 | yay, svn.galago.info |
| 09:06.18 | nullpuppy | yay |
| 09:06.57 | ChipX86 | the galago.org guy never gave me the domain, even though it was his idea |
| 09:07.34 | rioter | heh |
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| 09:09.25 | ChipX86 | uh oh |
| 09:10.25 | purple_cow | hehehe |
| 09:10.26 | scanline | ? |
| 09:10.27 | purple_cow | this space-inflation bug in unionfs is weirdly cool |
| 09:10.29 | purple_cow | none 991G 77G 914G 8% /navi |
| 09:10.31 | nullpuppy | a |
| 09:10.31 | purple_cow | pretty good usage for 3 120G disks |
| 09:11.00 | ChipX86 | I had a floppy disk that told me I had several hundred gigs once. That was fun. |
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| 12:03.10 | rioter | oh a invader zim episode i havent sene |
| 12:03.13 | rioter | seen |
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| 13:27.46 | zak | AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH |
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| 15:06.11 | kergoth | morning |
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| 15:12.16 | lurgy | mornin |
| 15:40.23 | scanline | blehhh |
| 15:41.42 | purple_cow | woo! the rest of my laptop shipped today! |
| 15:46.14 | zak | purple_cow: you broke down and bought a laptop |
| 15:56.47 | scanline | noooooooooo |
| 15:56.55 | scanline | my local copy of TMBG isn't new enough to have Am I Awake? |
| 15:58.28 | purple_cow | hmm, allmusic's spotlight is a band called "Josef K" |
| 15:59.23 | scanline | our 'df' is going to be quite big after all this :) |
| 15:59.30 | purple_cow | uhhuh |
| 15:59.42 | purple_cow | i'm curious if we're going to overflow |
| 15:59.53 | scanline | ooh.. and we have no restrictions on how big the individual disks are |
| 16:00.04 | scanline | we can start upgrading navi with 250GB disks or something if we need to |
| 16:00.08 | purple_cow | uhhuh, i realized that last night in the shower |
| 16:00.13 | scanline | :) |
| 16:00.18 | purple_cow | yay for horizontal as well as vertical scalability |
| 16:00.27 | scanline | mmyep |
| 16:03.24 | purple_cow | wow |
| 16:03.26 | purple_cow | http://www.snopes.com/photos/commercials/vwpolo.asp |
| 16:03.34 | purple_cow | that's hilariously funny on a very twisted level |
| 16:04.54 | scanline | wow |
| 16:08.48 | kergoth | boo work |
| 16:11.13 | CIA-5 | spacegrant: 03maccarro * r906 10mck/ (6 files in 4 dirs): Make Observable.Value instances remote copyable, and add support for that in the ground software. Limited synchronization has been implemented, but needs to be reworked a bit. |
| 16:32.06 | slimspace | yay, another exciting lecture of OOP |
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| 16:36.14 | purple_cow | whee |
| 16:36.32 | purple_cow | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:37.51 | scanline | :) |
| 16:37.57 | scanline | yikes |
| 16:37.59 | scanline | CIA started measuring the size of stats_messages in GB |
| 16:38.17 | scanline | methinks it's new low-disk-usage stats maintenance code isn't quite assertive enough |
| 16:38.25 | purple_cow | wow |
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| 16:38.43 | scanline | slimspace: do you have any idea what this C&DH packet thing due today is? |
| 16:39.08 | scanline | slimspace: best I can figure it's either the CD sendall packet, which has been done for about a year, or it's the Flight.Computer stuff, which is written but needs testing |
| 16:39.42 | slimspace | scanline: I think it's the CD sendall thing. It's the part of the health and status packet that contains C&DH stats. |
| 16:39.52 | scanline | flimshaw! |
| 16:40.19 | scanline | so that's just a combination of having a CD packet definition and being able to read generic micronet sensors |
| 16:40.26 | slimspace | pretty much |
| 16:41.14 | purple_cow | why do people feel the need to draw diagrams for everything even when it doesn't actually mean anything? |
| 16:41.30 | scanline | purple_cow: more fun than providing content |
| 16:43.42 | slimspace | scanline: it might be useful for us to have the ability to pass user arguments into observer callbacks |
| 16:43.54 | slimspace | kinda like how deferreds work |
| 16:44.42 | scanline | slimspace: yeah. I guess we could have Event optionally append callback-owner-provided args to the ones given to the event on invocation |
| 16:45.30 | slimspace | yeah. I figure we could do something where we add a callback like foo.changed.observe( myFunc, custArg ) |
| 16:45.35 | scanline | right |
| 16:45.42 | slimspace | and have the callback called as myFunc( result, custArg ) |
| 16:48.11 | scanline | damnit |
| 16:48.14 | scanline | SIGWINCH killed svn |
| 16:48.43 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03micah * r6649 10cia/LibCIA/Stats/Target.py: Increase the pruning rate from 25 targets/hour to 500 targets/hour. Our database is growing too fast, and pruning isn't nearly as I/O intensive as I thought it would be. |
| 16:49.13 | scanline | I think at this rate it will cover the whole database every 20 hours or so |
| 16:49.18 | scanline | much better than every couple weeks |
| 16:55.47 | scanline | hmm, wow |
| 16:55.55 | scanline | a 500-target prune only takes about 3 seconds |
| 16:56.48 | purple_cow | err, whoops |
| 16:57.27 | scanline | wow |
| 16:57.51 | scanline | maybe I'll scrap this altogether and go back to the old code that did every target every hour |
| 16:58.33 | scanline | bleh. I don't think innodb ever makes tables smaller, only bigger |
| 17:01.24 | purple_cow | it's a good thing he's got the book up on the screen where it's so readable |
| 17:01.27 | scanline | "InnoDB free: 396288 kB;" |
| 17:03.26 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03micah * r6650 10cia/LibCIA/Stats/Target.py: |
| 17:03.27 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: Prevent pruneTargets from spinning around the queue multiple times if our |
| 17:03.29 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: pruning quantity is larger than the total number of targets in the table. Leave |
| 17:03.31 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: the default quantity at 500- it can be safely set much higher, but this will |
| 17:03.33 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: prune the entire database every 10 hours which is probably sufficient. |
| 17:03.34 | purple_cow | hah, that's a good guideline |
| 17:03.54 | purple_cow | "the system validates the password is correct" is so much better than "the system checks whether the password is correct" |
| 17:04.33 | scanline | I love how this is a "Programming with Use Cases" class so far |
| 17:04.56 | scanline | I keep expecting him to go into syntax rules or a grammar for use cases |
| 17:05.02 | purple_cow | hahahaha |
| 17:05.16 | purple_cow | no, that might actually be useful |
| 17:05.29 | purple_cow | i think so far his rule is that he can only mention it if it's a wishy-washy concept |
| 17:05.41 | scanline | well, there are expect-like tools for GUIs that pretty much let you program in use cases |
| 17:05.52 | scanline | but that's really a lot more like writing test cases from the user's point of view |
| 17:05.56 | scanline | hm.. writing test cases... |
| 17:06.04 | scanline | this class is * just* like that awful software engineering course :P |
| 17:06.09 | purple_cow | hehe |
| 17:06.27 | purple_cow | i'm really looking forward to the gui test tools coming out of novell bangalore |
| 17:06.36 | scanline | hmm, haven't heard of those |
| 17:06.50 | purple_cow | expect-like tools that hook into a11y to do their thing |
| 17:07.30 | scanline | hehe, a11y |
| 17:07.53 | purple_cow | slimspace: no choking! |
| 17:08.35 | scanline | it's a little disturbing how InnoDB is basically its own filesystem and you can run it on a raw disk partition |
| 17:14.40 | scanline | "A przegl?daj?c soft do Gnomika natkn??em si? na co? takiego: |
| 17:14.40 | scanline | http://fyre.navi.cx/" |
| 17:15.22 | scanline | good question |
| 17:17.36 | purple_cow | scanline: look at babelfish? |
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| 17:18.03 | scanline | looks like they do the same languages as google |
| 17:18.11 | purple_cow | i thought they did more |
| 17:18.20 | scanline | hmm, a little more maybe |
| 17:18.25 | scanline | but no polish, or anything close to it |
| 17:18.32 | purple_cow | that's polish? |
| 17:18.38 | scanline | something like it? |
| 17:18.57 | purple_cow | looks like slovak or czech to me |
| 17:19.02 | scanline | ah |
| 17:19.45 | purple_cow | hmmdeedoo |
| 17:19.49 | purple_cow | 4mblocks left on the next disk :) |
| 17:20.00 | purple_cow | mornin' darth_mall |
| 17:20.01 | scanline | yay |
| 17:20.04 | darth_mall | morning |
| 17:20.11 | scanline | I need a DVD-loading robot |
| 17:20.14 | scanline | so I can restore backups remotely |
| 17:20.53 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r6651 10xchat-gnome/fe-gnome/ (preferences_servers_page.c xchat-gnome.glade): start working on configuring servers and autojoin channels |
| 17:25.56 | purple_cow | wow, so basically he's teaching us how to draw flowcharts but without any of the formal syntax that usually accompanies such diagrams |
| 17:26.28 | CIA-5 | spacegrant: 03dowty * r907 10mck/data/ (greendot.png reddot.png yellowdot.png): Add some icons frivolously stolen from CIA |
| 17:26.49 | scanline | purple_cow: ick |
| 17:27.08 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r6652 10xchat-gnome/fe-gnome/preferences_servers_page.c: only initialize once, but always populate freshly |
| 17:28.48 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03micah * r6653 10cia/media/file-icons.xcf.gz: Add an exclamation point layer to our wacky little bundle of icon-building fun |
| 17:29.02 | scanline | purple_cow: it's for one of those frivolously stolen icons :P |
| 17:29.10 | scanline | but I might as well keep that .xcf up to date |
| 17:29.50 | scanline | purple_cow: I stole some CIA icons to prettify the ones used by our ground software |
| 17:29.54 | purple_cow | ah |
| 17:30.06 | purple_cow | heh, it's a good thing those two threads run in parallel |
| 17:30.17 | purple_cow | otherwise there might not be tricky scheduling issues |
| 17:30.46 | purple_cow | scanline: apparently when someone is renting videos you want to check that they're not a delinquent customer concurrently with scanning the videos |
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| 17:31.07 | scanline | ah. it actually sounds kind of handy to have a flowchart operator for branching and joining control flow |
| 17:31.07 | purple_cow | because, you know, it's better to get started scanning them and then quit if there's a problem than check the problems first |
| 17:31.13 | scanline | but.. flowcharts are silly |
| 17:31.22 | purple_cow | scanline: well, yeah, but that was a *really* stupid example |
| 17:31.36 | scanline | hmm.. my battery might last the whole time again |
| 17:31.44 | scanline | works nicely when I'm not compiling much |
| 17:32.05 | purple_cow | woo! |
| 17:32.09 | purple_cow | almost broken the 4T barrier |
| 17:32.12 | scanline | =) |
| 17:32.34 | scanline | hrm... my gimp on here is old |
| 17:33.35 | scanline | cool |
| 17:33.37 | scanline | http://navi.cx/cgi-bin/disks.cgi |
| 17:33.48 | scanline | this is ignoring the /navi mount because the device is 'none', and showing just the disks |
| 17:33.52 | scanline | nice pie chart results |
| 17:34.19 | scanline | hehe |
| 17:35.10 | CIA-5 | winehq: 03Mike Hearn <mh@codeweavers.com> * 10/: Don't crash when flushing profile cache |
| 17:35.13 | scanline | hm. didn't notice dipal's in this class |
| 17:35.17 | purple_cow | yep |
| 17:35.29 | scanline | too many meeting reminder emails... |
| 17:39.32 | purple_cow | time to go learn about music notation! |
| 17:40.35 | CIA-5 | spacegrant: 03maccarro * r908 10mck/PyMCK/Observable.py: |
| 17:40.35 | CIA-5 | spacegrant: A new Observable.Status class implemented that supports watching |
| 17:40.35 | CIA-5 | spacegrant: Observable.ValueExpressions for changes, and changing its own value based on the |
| 17:40.35 | CIA-5 | spacegrant: changes. Also, Observable.Value callbacks now support passing user-defined |
| 17:40.35 | CIA-5 | spacegrant: arguments. |
| 17:50.43 | purple_cow | woohoo, first abort/reset cycle on the hpt |
| 17:52.24 | scanline | hah |
| 18:01.58 | CIA-5 | openembedded: 03kergoth * r126 10libbitbake-data/ (9 files in 5 dirs): Add doxygen doc generation. Add datastore process wide initialization and shutdown based on usage count. |
| 18:04.16 | CIA-5 | spacegrant: 03maccarro * r909 10mck/PyMCK/Observable.py: Handle overlapping conditions gracefully, making the state of the Status instance that of the first true condition |
| 18:21.20 | CIA-5 | openembedded: 03kergoth 07 * r1.3079.6.1 10openembedded/ (8 files in 5 dirs): Apply patch to add the armeb target arch to openssl Configure, consolodate openssl metadata into a .inc, and fixup the openssl builds to define L_ENDIAN or B_ENDIAN appropriately. |
| 18:21.36 | CIA-5 | spacegrant: 03dowty * r910 10mck/PyMCK/ (Observable.py Test/test_observable.py): Add new Observable test cases that check the new argument appending support, and fix a handful of buglets in Observable.Event that were breaking test cases |
| 18:23.55 | purple_cow | ohh man |
| 18:23.59 | purple_cow | finale is a piece of crap |
| 18:24.02 | scanline | hehe |
| 18:24.17 | scanline | you should notate music in Inkscape |
| 18:24.39 | scanline | it'd be almost as good as writing papers in the Gimp |
| 18:28.49 | purple_cow | jesus |
| 18:29.11 | purple_cow | apparently you sometimes need to press splat-R to redraw because it gets rendering artifacts |
| 18:29.15 | purple_cow | and the dialogs are disappearing at random |
| 18:29.19 | scanline | splat? |
| 18:29.23 | scanline | ooh neat |
| 18:29.32 | scanline | sounds like it's trying to be an EDA program |
| 18:29.46 | scanline | you should use Protel to notate music |
| 18:29.56 | scanline | you can output gerber files and make sheet music out of copper |
| 18:31.38 | purple_cow | hahaha |
| 18:33.22 | scanline | you should call it curly-# |
| 18:38.53 | purple_cow | hehe |
| 18:44.42 | CIA-5 | spacegrant: 03maccarro * r911 10mck/PyMCK/ (3 files in 3 dirs): Added some support into the ground software for the new Observable.Status, wrote a set of test cases for it, and fixed a bug found with the test cases. |
| 18:54.26 | purple_cow | i love how these tool dialogs just disappear at random |
| 18:54.32 | scanline | poof! |
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| 19:01.00 | purple_cow | woo! crash! |
| 19:01.19 | purple_cow | people pay for this? |
| 19:01.47 | scanline | sounds fun :) |
| 19:07.51 | purple_cow | looks like they've fixed the crappy poscript problem illustrated on the lilypond web site |
| 19:11.15 | hardwire | I wish people didn't suck |
| 19:11.23 | hardwire | I moved the MoH to streaming mp3 vs radio input |
| 19:11.30 | purple_cow | cool, no 4T limit :) |
| 19:11.35 | hardwire | and everybody is bitching because its not what they want to listen too |
| 19:11.40 | hardwire | yet nobody can tell m e what they want to listen too |
| 19:13.40 | hardwire | you know |
| 19:13.43 | hardwire | leaving doesn't make you special |
| 19:14.42 | CIA-5 | openembedded: 03kergoth 07 * r1.3100.1.1 10openembedded/packages/ipsec-tools/ (files/cross.patch ipsec-tools_0.4+0.5-rc1.bb): |
| 19:14.42 | CIA-5 | openembedded: Add ipsec-tools 0.5-rc1, a port of KAME's IPsec utilities to the Linux-2.6 |
| 19:14.42 | CIA-5 | openembedded: IPsec implementation. |
| 19:20.38 | CIA-5 | openembedded: 03kergoth 07 * r1.3103 10openembedded/packages/ipsec-tools/ (3 files): Add ipsec-tools 0.5-rc2, and consolodate the common ipsec-tools metadata into a .inc. |
| 19:28.38 | scanline | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:28.42 | scanline | sometimes I wonder... |
| 19:32.00 | darth_mall | lol |
| 19:32.26 | kergoth | hah |
| 19:37.46 | purple_cow | looks like sdd is pretty well toasted |
| 19:39.26 | CIA-5 | spacegrant: 03dowty * r912 10mck/PyMCK/ (DataLogger.py Test/test_datalogger.py): Add a file-like object that can turn any other file-like object into a circular buffer, and test cases for this object |
| 19:53.54 | CIA-5 | spacegrant: 03dowty * r913 10mck/PyMCK/ (3 files in 2 dirs): Separate out the microcontroller protocol's CRC-16 implementation and its PPP-like packet framing into PyMCK.Struct, since they will be useful in the data logger. |
| 19:59.07 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r6654 10bzedit/scripts/BZFlag/ (Box.py Object.py Pyramid.py World.py): assign materials to faces |
| 19:59.46 | nullpuppy | w00t, nulldomain looks soo much better now |
| 20:01.54 | kergoth`food | mm, chai |
| 20:02.05 | nullpuppy | mmm, thats a good idea |
| 20:03.47 | purple_cow | rofl |
| 20:03.55 | purple_cow | none 6.9T 206G 6.7T 3% /navi |
| 20:04.19 | purple_cow | when will the madness end? |
| 20:04.19 | ToyKeeper | Grargg.. Why does firefox insist on bringing up the search dialog while I'm trying to type a message in a textbox? |
| 20:04.36 | purple_cow | search...dialog... ? |
| 20:04.47 | kergoth`food | i assum ehe means the popup find thing |
| 20:04.56 | purple_cow | ToyKeeper: what version of firefox? |
| 20:05.37 | ToyKeeper | 1.0 |
| 20:09.58 | darth_mall | it likes to do that when you type a '/' |
| 20:10.08 | darth_mall | supposedly you can disable it, but I've had little luck with that ^^ |
| 20:10.27 | darth_mall | but I suspect I have bad firefox karma, because other people don't seem to have had problems of that nature |
| 20:10.59 | scanline | it's supposed to search when you type '/' |
| 20:11.08 | scanline | the problem I think is that it doesn't realize when an input box has focus |
| 20:11.36 | scanline | not sure what triggers it, since it's only happened to me very occasionally |
| 20:11.46 | purple_cow | hmm |
| 20:12.07 | purple_cow | it's UPS ground, but if it's close it's concievable i could have it tomorrow |
| 20:12.11 | darth_mall | scanline: yeah, but you can disable that feature since it can't tell when you're in a text box |
| 20:14.09 | scanline | huh |
| 20:14.13 | scanline | the emergency lights in here just came on |
| 20:14.18 | scanline | they're pointed right at me :P |
| 20:14.35 | scanline | too.. bright... |
| 20:15.37 | ToyKeeper | I've been using its textboxes without problems until now. I've only seen it do that on freshmeat. |
| 20:15.57 | ToyKeeper | It popped up the search any time I typed a /, but also a couple other times (not sure why). |
| 20:16.33 | ToyKeeper | Anyway, I just hadn't seen it do that before, except when I wanted it to. |
| 20:17.48 | CIA-5 | spacegrant: 03evan * r914 10mck/PyMCK/ (ADCS/SGP4.py Test/sgp4_dat2.py): So far so good. The test cases are all passing. |
| 20:18.36 | scanline | yay, it turned off by itself |
| 20:20.38 | CIA-5 | openembedded: 03kergoth * r127 10libbitbake-data/ (configure.ac src/Makefile.am src/backend-sqlite3.c): Add calls to sqlite3 to open and close the recipe database. |
| 20:25.38 | kergoth | question. lets say you're doing a library, and the library has an initialization function that returns a malloced structure/token, and a free function to free it, is it generally considered reasonable to state that that structure must be local to a specific single thread? (in other words, there's no locking in the structure) |
| 20:32.52 | ChipX86 | man.. guess I'm definitely working from home today |
| 20:33.35 | kergoth | heh |
| 20:33.37 | kergoth | morning |
| 20:33.43 | ChipX86 | morning :P |
| 20:34.01 | ChipX86 | oh yay, they put us on new listservs automatically at work |
| 20:34.06 | ChipX86 | one containing all our e-mail bounces |
| 20:34.16 | ChipX86 | so that we can resend them.. because Exchange doesn't know how |
| 20:34.36 | nullpuppy | hahaha |
| 20:35.46 | ChipX86 | ooh another Galacy Scam post |
| 20:36.05 | nullpuppy | yay |
| 20:36.21 | ChipX86 | that company had a site for people to post complaints |
| 20:36.28 | ChipX86 | once people started complaining, they shut it down |
| 20:36.33 | nullpuppy | lol |
| 20:36.33 | ChipX86 | now everyone goes to my blog for complaints :D |
| 20:36.41 | kergoth | ChipX86: you have an opinion on the question i asked a few minutes ago? |
| 20:37.00 | kergoth | sort of a library design best practices question |
| 20:37.12 | ChipX86 | yeah, I think so |
| 20:37.15 | ChipX86 | I'd get TD's opinion |
| 20:37.49 | kergoth | any global process wide data is indeed locked, just that particular structure is not |
| 20:37.52 | kergoth | nod |
| 20:38.19 | ChipX86 | oh good |
| 20:38.36 | ChipX86 | the bounced e-mails I'm getting aren't even mine |
| 20:39.04 | kergoth | fun |
| 20:40.32 | hardwire | http://www.lex.com.tw:8080/product/PCI-P811A.htm |
| 20:40.35 | hardwire | thats amazig |
| 20:40.43 | hardwire | 4 x 10/100 + MiniPCI on a single PCI card |
| 20:40.46 | hardwire | thats not that large either |
| 20:40.47 | hardwire | half width |
| 20:41.03 | hardwire | that card is going to make my life incredibly easy |
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| 20:42.39 | ChipX86 | "He was swerving to avoid a tree." "And what happened?" "He was unsuccessful!" |
| 20:43.01 | kergoth | hehe |
| 20:43.56 | darth_mall | hmmm... I should think about gettin' off to class |
| 20:45.59 | purple_cow | scanline: anything i can be doing to restore backups? |
| 20:48.30 | scanline | purple_cow: copying them to navi :) |
| 20:48.45 | scanline | purple_cow: you'll also want to restore the catalogs.. which I forgot to do for the current ones |
| 20:48.54 | purple_cow | how do i do that? |
| 20:50.31 | scanline | just copy the file from the cd's catalog directory to /navi/backups/catalog |
| 20:51.04 | scanline | then to restore the CD's contents, you'll want something like "scp -r /mnt/dvd/*/navi/* navi:/mnt/navi/foo/" |
| 20:51.14 | scanline | to ignore the date-code directory and the top-level navi directory |
| 20:55.01 | purple_cow | hrm |
| 20:56.31 | kergoth | damnit, its only 3 |
| 20:56.52 | purple_cow | hrmy hrm hrm |
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| 21:06.00 | CIA-5 | openembedded: 03kergoth * r128 10libbitbake-data/ChangeLog: Add ChangeLog. |
| 21:06.08 | CIA-5 | openembedded: 03kergoth * r129 10libbitbake-data/doc/Makefile.am: Remove doc/doxygen in maintainer-clean. |
| 21:07.16 | scanline | hehe |
| 21:07.59 | purple_cow | if only that 8.8T was real |
| 21:08.44 | scanline | then navi would only be half full! |
| 21:08.46 | CIA-5 | openembedded: 03kergoth * r130 10libbitbake-data/: Rename the repo. |
| 21:08.54 | CIA-5 | openembedded: 03kergoth * r131 10bitbake-data/: Rename the repo. |
| 21:08.59 | purple_cow | half full? |
| 21:09.20 | scanline | yeah. I really doubt that if navi was 8T we wouldn't have found a way to fill at least 4T of that |
| 21:09.27 | purple_cow | hehehe |
| 21:12.34 | scanline | http://navi.cx/cgi-bin/disks.cgi?percentsFree=0.89+0.13+0.48+8.10+10.68+10.68+10.68+10.68+10.68+10.68+10.68+10.68&percentsUsed=0.92+0.32+1.15+2.58+0.00+0.00+0.00+0.00+0.00+0.00+0.00+0.00&image=disk_chart |
| 21:12.39 | scanline | wow, that's nasty |
| 21:14.21 | ChipX86 | eep, Regis wants me to use scary math |
| 21:14.23 | scanline | I think I broke just about every rule of URL design |
| 21:16.00 | scanline | scary? |
| 21:16.12 | ChipX86 | just because I haven't done math in a while |
| 21:18.18 | purple_cow | scanline: not quite. it's .cgi, not .py ;) |
| 21:19.07 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r6655 10bzedit/scripts/BZFlag/ (Material.py Object.py Reader.py Types.py): stub out a Material class |
| 21:19.33 | scanline | purple_cow: true :) |
| 21:20.25 | scanline | except that bit about how the therms will completely nuke your system trying to regenerate the entire cache |
| 21:20.48 | purple_cow | hehe |
| 21:21.31 | scanline | whee, these files should be quite robust |
| 21:25.04 | ChipX86 | I so want to show you guys a screenshot of this |
| 21:25.26 | purple_cow | looks like we might need to do 2.6 if we want to export /navi |
| 21:26.00 | purple_cow | wow, 2 seasons of simpsons on a single disc |
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| 21:32.19 | scanline | huh |
| 21:32.52 | ChipX86 | another galacy scam post |
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| 21:39.41 | CIA-5 | openembedded: 03kergoth * r132 10bitbake-data/ (include/bitbake-data.h src/backend-sqlite3.c): |
| 21:39.41 | CIA-5 | openembedded: Adjust the bb_data_destroy function. Now accepts a new gboolean parameter to |
| 21:39.41 | CIA-5 | openembedded: indicate that the data can be truly removed -- only affects behavior of stores |
| 21:39.41 | CIA-5 | openembedded: which are persistant. Setting said parameter to TRUE will remove the data for |
| 21:39.41 | CIA-5 | openembedded: the recipe in question from the persistant store completely, rather than just |
| 21:39.41 | CIA-5 | openembedded: freeing our datastructures. |
| 21:44.37 | hardwire | scanline: I bought the griffin powermate |
| 21:44.55 | hardwire | I think after finding a good way to mount it.. the black ones will help with the bandwidth idea I had |
| 21:46.34 | ChipX86 | ooh I've been wanting one of those, but I have on use for it |
| 21:46.35 | ChipX86 | er, no use |
| 21:49.28 | CIA-5 | openembedded: 03kergoth * r133 10bitbake-data/ChangeLog: Add the previous commit to the ChangeLog -- need to get back in the habit of updating it. |
| 21:49.39 | CIA-5 | spacegrant: 03dowty * r915 10mck/PyMCK/ (4 files in 3 dirs): |
| 21:49.39 | CIA-5 | spacegrant: Adding an implementation and test cases for PacketFile, a file-like object |
| 21:49.39 | CIA-5 | spacegrant: wrapper that provides writing and reading of framed packets, with good error |
| 21:49.39 | CIA-5 | spacegrant: recovery. This and CircularFile are the basis for our binary data logger |
| 21:50.12 | ChipX86 | damnit. |
| 21:50.20 | ChipX86 | "Christian, please make this your top priority today. Thanks." on a bug |
| 21:50.26 | ChipX86 | a bug in an area I have 0 knowledge in |
| 21:50.37 | ChipX86 | and have said so |
| 21:50.50 | scanline | fun |
| 21:52.15 | ChipX86 | and I can't even get to the point where they want me to fix it. It crashes long before that in an area I have never looked into |
| 21:52.19 | ChipX86 | argh |
| 21:54.45 | scanline | ooh.. just what the world needs |
| 21:54.51 | scanline | a PickleRing object |
| 21:55.18 | purple_cow | urgh |
| 21:55.23 | purple_cow | 8 dvds down, almost 200 to go |
| 21:55.34 | scanline | :) |
| 21:57.07 | ChipX86 | ok, today sucks. |
| 21:57.28 | ToyKeeper | ChipX86: Sounds like your boss doesn't realize that some problems are deeper than making people feel better. |
| 21:57.37 | ChipX86 | none of the servers work right at work.. this bug is going to be insanely difficult.. |
| 21:57.44 | ChipX86 | ToyKeeper: huh? |
| 21:57.57 | ChipX86 | what does that even mean? |
| 21:58.01 | scanline | purple_cow: for the older discs that's probably safe... |
| 21:58.10 | scanline | purple_cow: feel free to steal a terminal on yoshi for restoring |
| 21:58.11 | purple_cow | i am the tower around which you orbited, i am not proud i am just taking orders, i fall to the ground within hours of impact, i hit when i'm hit and attack when attacked... |
| 22:02.37 | ToyKeeper | ChipX86: Heh, the think about wanting you to fix a bug he/she should know you can't... sounds like your boss thinks the problem is in your head instead of in the project. |
| 22:02.49 | ToyKeeper | s/think/thing/ |
| 22:02.54 | ChipX86 | well, firsdt of all, it's not my boss saying this |
| 22:03.06 | ToyKeeper | boss/client/manager/whoever. |
| 22:03.10 | ChipX86 | second, they think I can fix it because I work in tons of areas and have worked in areas related to this |
| 22:03.14 | ChipX86 | not my manager or client either |
| 22:03.21 | ChipX86 | we don't necessarily work like that |
| 22:03.33 | ChipX86 | it's more of a communal, self-managed type system for a large part |
| 22:03.40 | purple_cow | yay, filesystems on all the drives that aren't broken |
| 22:03.49 | ChipX86 | purple_cow: so, what happened with navi? |
| 22:04.05 | purple_cow | ChipX86: disk failure |
| 22:04.09 | ChipX86 | gah.. |
| 22:04.16 | scanline | chipX86: the RAID exploded, so we're ditching RAID ;) |
| 22:04.22 | ChipX86 | heh |
| 22:04.28 | ChipX86 | yay for backups |
| 22:04.57 | purple_cow | we haven't really had much luck with RAID's "reliability", so we're making everything more robust against disk failures by only having to restore that disk's worth of stuff |
| 22:05.06 | CIA-5 | openembedded: 03kergoth * r134 10bitbake-data/ (6 files in 2 dirs): Adjustments to the build to obey our LT_RELEASE autoconf variable rather than hardcoding the library release version in various places, including the .pc filename. Also install the .pc into the appropriate place. |
| 22:07.22 | ChipX86 | (14:06:46) jameslin: they should at least coordinate system unavailability |
| 22:07.23 | ChipX86 | (14:06:55) jameslin: so that email is down at the same time as perforce so people can just take the day off |
| 22:07.27 | purple_cow | yep, looks like the size is exactly 10 times what it should be |
| 22:07.33 | purple_cow | sez we've got 11T instead of 1.1T :) |
| 22:07.35 | kergoth | ChipX86: hehe |
| 22:07.40 | ChipX86 | perforce is down. Nobody can work. |
| 22:07.48 | ChipX86 | and I can't even test this bug until I sync |
| 22:08.52 | purple_cow | urk, wtf |
| 22:09.03 | purple_cow | why are the unionfs mailing list archives subscriber only? |
| 22:09.50 | kergoth | heh |
| 22:09.54 | kergoth | there's a thread on that on the list right now |
| 22:10.08 | purple_cow | are you subscribed? |
| 22:10.18 | kergoth | yep |
| 22:10.20 | kergoth | Sorry Tom, but it's too easy to mine mail archives for spam purposes. And |
| 22:10.20 | kergoth | some of the automated techniques to obfuscate the email address don't work |
| 22:10.20 | kergoth | very well, or they don't catch all email instances. Even if we were able to |
| 22:10.20 | kergoth | remove all emails from the archives automatically, it would then make it |
| 22:10.22 | kergoth | harder to figure out who make which posting. |
| 22:10.36 | kergoth | that was the reply to that very question (excerpt) |
| 22:10.47 | purple_cow | seen anything about this size reporting bug? |
| 22:11.18 | kergoth | doesnt seem familiar |
| 22:11.26 | kergoth | can check the archives |
| 22:11.56 | purple_cow | it's not too important, just an annoyance |
| 22:12.11 | CIA-5 | openembedded: 03kergoth * r135 10bitbake-data/ (acinclude.m4 modules/): Cleanup: fix a typo/thinko in acinclude.m4, remove unnecessary directory. |
| 22:12.13 | scanline | hehe, Christy's dog is cute |
| 22:13.07 | scanline | kergoth: the method I'm using on CIA seems to work pretty well.. and even if it isn't perfect, I really doubt it would be the weak link in antispamming someone's address |
| 22:13.26 | kergoth | i dont agree with him personally |
| 22:14.01 | hardwire | I just told my girlfriend she deserved to be yelled at by me earlier |
| 22:14.05 | hardwire | I should probably investigate hotels. |
| 22:14.10 | kergoth | heh |
| 22:14.41 | ChipX86 | you have a real way with women |
| 22:15.07 | hardwire | she was being a fucking punk |
| 22:15.21 | ChipX86 | and with words |
| 22:15.50 | hardwire | well she was |
| 22:18.46 | ChipX86 | oohh |
| 22:18.52 | CIA-5 | spacegrant: 03dowty * r916 10mck/PyMCK/ (DataLogger.py Test/test_datalogger.py): Implement support for CircularFile instances that only occupy part of their original file. This will let us store headers in the same file as the ring buffer itself |
| 22:18.54 | ChipX86 | my blog entry is now #1 for a search for Galacy |
| 22:19.05 | ChipX86 | #1 and #2 |
| 22:19.10 | ChipX86 | then comes Galacy themselves |
| 22:27.52 | darth_mall | blargh |
| 22:30.08 | ChipX86 | ok |
| 22:30.10 | ChipX86 | the web server died |
| 22:30.13 | ChipX86 | the jabber server died |
| 22:30.38 | kergoth | heh |
| 22:30.38 | kergoth | one of those days eh |
| 22:30.38 | kergoth | boored |
| 22:35.19 | CIA-5 | openembedded: 03kergoth * r136 10bitbake-data/ (AUTHORS ChangeLog README): Add AUTHORS and README. |
| 22:35.56 | CIA-5 | openembedded: 03kergoth * r137 10bitbake-data/ (include/bitbake-data.h src/backend-sqlite3.c): Cleanup: no need to use the visibility macros on the function definitions -- the declaration is sufficient. |
| 22:36.07 | ChipX86 | bah |
| 22:36.53 | kergoth | bah? |
| 22:36.55 | kergoth | heh |
| 22:36.58 | ChipX86 | everything's broken |
| 22:37.05 | kergoth | heh |
| 22:38.05 | purple_cow | hahahaha |
| 22:38.05 | purple_cow | http://qwantz.com/20050202.html |
| 22:41.41 | ChipX86 | various servers are breaking for different people |
| 22:47.46 | kergoth | i need an sql syntax quick reference |
| 22:47.49 | kergoth | i always forget the syntax |
| 22:51.28 | ChipX86 | "We seem to be having a problem getting large packets through the various |
| 22:51.29 | ChipX86 | network paths." |
| 22:51.43 | purple_cow | hahahahahahaha |
| 22:51.43 | kergoth | .. |
| 22:51.44 | ChipX86 | work just can't get done today |
| 22:51.56 | purple_cow | my cd drive is in "ONTARIO, CA, US" |
| 22:52.02 | ChipX86 | I can't access perforce, bugzilla, my machine at times.. |
| 22:52.06 | darth_mall | wow... these guys are having such a productive meeting |
| 22:52.09 | darth_mall | thank god for laptops |
| 22:52.25 | scanline | hah, this is a meeting? |
| 22:52.37 | darth_mall | well, it's supposed to be |
| 22:52.44 | purple_cow | hmm, i guess there *is* an ontario in california |
| 22:52.51 | scanline | haha, neat |
| 22:52.57 | darth_mall | yay ontario |
| 22:53.10 | purple_cow | bah! |
| 22:53.15 | purple_cow | "THE RECEIVER REQUESTS UPS TO HOLD THIS SHPT AND CONTACT THEM FOR SPECIFIC INFORMATION BEFORE CUSTOMS CLEARANCE" |
| 22:53.33 | file | purple_cow: :( |
| 22:53.51 | purple_cow | it's a freaking cdrom drive, not a vegetable |
| 22:54.47 | darth_mall | yay customs |
| 22:56.28 | darth_mall | I should just go home |
| 22:56.35 | darth_mall | I doubt anyone's going to get anything done during this meeting |
| 22:57.34 | ChipX86 | yeah, I'm ready to give up on today |
| 23:00.46 | CIA-5 | spacegrant: 03evan * r917 10/trunk/ (2 files in 2 dirs): |
| 23:00.47 | CIA-5 | spacegrant: Fixed some very dumb mistakes on my part in the spreadsheet. |
| 23:00.47 | CIA-5 | spacegrant: Update the test cases accordingly. |
| 23:03.49 | kergoth | is today over yet? |
| 23:04.18 | ChipX86 | I wish |
| 23:04.41 | kergoth | i have functional network and equipment, just cant concentrate for some reason |
| 23:04.43 | kergoth | heh |
| 23:04.54 | ChipX86 | we just got some of our stuff working again |
| 23:05.00 | CIA-5 | spacegrant: 03evan * r918 10mck/PyMCK/Test/sgp4_dat2.py: |
| 23:05.00 | CIA-5 | spacegrant: Finish updating the test cases for the atmospheric drag calculations. |
| 23:05.00 | CIA-5 | spacegrant: They all pass. Yay! |
| 23:05.02 | ChipX86 | I managed to get a new tree, but someone broke powering off VMs |
| 23:05.37 | CIA-5 | spacegrant: 03evan * r919 10doc-misc/adcs/sgp4_test_cases.xls: Ooops, forgot to send the changed spreadsheet. |
| 23:07.02 | ChipX86 | pagefault: there are Destroy Mornings shirts and mugs now :) |
| 23:07.11 | kergoth | where? |
| 23:07.15 | pagefault | ooooh |
| 23:07.18 | pagefault | I need to get one for sure |
| 23:07.20 | ChipX86 | http://www.cafepress.com/destroymornings |
| 23:07.30 | ChipX86 | I hope they turn out okay. They should. It's the right DPI and all |
| 23:08.26 | kergoth | nice |
| 23:09.16 | purple_cow | that large mug is tempting |
| 23:09.24 | ChipX86 | I'm about to buy one |
| 23:09.34 | ChipX86 | I can lower the price for you guys to the base amount |
| 23:09.46 | pagefault | what about destroy mornings panties |
| 23:09.53 | ChipX86 | I felt that was a bit weird |
| 23:10.35 | pagefault | yeah true |
| 23:11.04 | pagefault | why are the made in the USA shirts more money |
| 23:11.11 | pagefault | and whats the difference? |
| 23:11.17 | ChipX86 | dunno |
| 23:17.12 | CIA-5 | zsnes: 03pagefault * 10zsnes/src/vcache.asm: Fix some netplay and ZMV bugs, and aligned data also fix some bizarre sprite corruption bugs in some squaresoft games |
| 23:20.47 | CIA-5 | zsnes: 03pagefault * 10zsnes/src/vcache.asm: I need more coffee |
| 23:23.00 | CIA-5 | zsnes: 03pagefault * 10zsnes/src/linux/sdllink.c: Even lower CPU utilization in GUI, this is a really quick and dirty fix |
| 23:24.13 | purple_cow | hurray! |
| 23:27.46 | CIA-5 | zsnes: 03pagefault * 10zsnes/src/linux/sdllink.c: F1/F3 menu's now included in CPU usage fix |
| 23:28.47 | pagefault | I think I crashed it |
| 23:28.47 | pagefault | or someone did |
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| 23:30.45 | *** topic/#tacobeam is How can you be in two places at once when you're not anywhere at all? |
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| 23:32.29 | kergoth | i noticed today that my mind works differently when doing userspace code than kernel for some reason. a lot of the useful things like the intuitive grasp of race conditions between threads and the like arent there. need to fix that. kinda wierd. |
| 23:33.18 | purple_cow | heh |
| 23:36.09 | CIA-5 | zsnes: 03pagefault * 10zsnes/src/ (linux/sdllink.c win/winlink.cpp): Mirror F1/F3 menu CPU usage fix in Windows version and a type in the previous commit I just put in CVS a second ago |
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| 23:43.38 | ChipX86 | if there were two words I could remove from every sci-fi, it would be "subroutine" and "protocol" |
| 23:44.02 | darth_mall | and pants |
| 23:44.36 | purple_cow | mmm grapes |
| 23:44.53 | ChipX86 | hahaha |
| 23:45.00 | ChipX86 | that bug that was assigned to me was a *windows* bug |
| 23:45.05 | ChipX86 | well, windows version of WS |
| 23:45.17 | ChipX86 | which explains why I couldn't repro it. |
| 23:46.05 | ChipX86 | that was a good waste of a few hours. *grrr* |
| 23:48.10 | purple_cow | 00 and 01 are exported ro now |
| 23:53.50 | purple_cow | yes! gimp 2.2 in portage! |
| 23:54.13 | kergoth | Note that if two or more threads have the same database open and one thread creates a new table or index, the other threads might not be able to see the new table right away. You might have to get the other threads to close and reopen their connection to the database before they will be able to see the new table. |
| 23:54.18 | kergoth | bah |
| 23:54.18 | kergoth | ~lart sqlite |
| 23:54.47 | scanline | purple_cow: about bloody time :) |
